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| [03:33] | zubairs__: This video sort of captures the issues with kde. |
| [03:33] | zubairs__: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1r-oYqinCQ |
| [03:33] | tde-bot: Page title: KDE That's Not Kool! - YouTube |
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| [04:43] | zubairs_: https://www.reddit.com/r/vintageunix/comments/1mtgdu0/im_starting_a_fork_of_kde2_to_use_with_netbsd_on/ |
| [04:43] | tde-bot: Page title: Reddit - The heart of the internet |
| [04:51] | zubairs_: someone is forking kde 2.x |
| [04:55] | zubairs_: Reddit is nice place to discover things that you did not know exists, like the below critique of GNOME. |
| [04:55] | zubairs_: https://woltman.com/gnome-bad/ |
| [04:55] | tde-bot: Page title: I Don't Care for Gnome - woltman.com |
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| [12:32] | ceux: zubairs__: funny, though KDE2 predates me |
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| [12:32] | ceux: a lot of stuff, KDE3 had, became standardized later. |
| [12:33] | ceux: cool to be first, but move with the pack |
| [12:33] | ceux: like DCOP and Artsd are well ahead of their time! |
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| [12:37] | Fat-Zer: ceux: I'd disagree arts was exactly an artifact of its time... with alsa in became completely obsolete... |
| [12:40] | Fat-Zer: as for dcop... I don't know enough about its arch to make a fair judgment, but I suspect it was superseeded by dbus because it had some juvenile illnesses.. |
| [12:40] | Fat-Zer: *superseded |
| [12:40] | ceux: Fat-Zer: yet arts was replaced as a software mixer by pulse |
| [12:40] | ceux: better realized certainly |
| [12:41] | Fat-Zer: ceux: nah... arts was developed in oss times when only one process could pass sound to the kernel |
| [12:42] | micheleC: yes, dcop was replaced by dbus. But I don't think dbus is superior. Both have pros and cons |
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| [12:42] | ceux: Fat-Zer: right, which is still basically true right? |
| [12:42] | ceux: isnt that the whole point of pulse and such to allow software mixing |
| [12:43] | ceux: micheleC: yes, ODB-1 is not worse than ODB-2, its just vendor specific, that is, Audi, Saab, GM, all had their own versions (like dcop being for kde) |
| [12:43] | ceux: the real power was when ODB-2 came out - because everyone supported the same communication protocol. |
| [12:43] | ceux: means i can write one client app that say does MPRIS and everyone supports it. |
| [13:00] | Fat-Zer: I think about pulse as more of a commutator than a mixer... than in arts on a system with alsa, the only benefit I can see is that it is a standalone process to which any other process can offload sound output, which might be crucial on very week systems... |
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| [16:33] | Fat-Zer: argh... TGW is unresponsive again... |
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| [17:09] | SlavekB: It's to be angry - it goes for a while, it doesn't respond again in the next while. Unfortunately, I do not have enough time now that I could devote to it. |
| [17:16] | Fat-Zer: sure, no pressure... I mostly just venting my annoyance... |
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| [18:42] | a-865: I'm trying to propose TDE to a Trixie user, but the Wiki is apparently being fussy about which web browser I try with, works in Chromium, but not so much SeaMonkey, and it's slow in both. I'm in USA FL. |
| [18:49] | SlavekB: Fat-Zer for TDE/tdesvn#37 I acidentally pressed Approve instead of Comment. |
| [18:53] | Fat-Zer: SlavekB: ok, will take into account... but it seems I won't be able to access it till tomorrow anyway... |
| [18:53] | Fat-Zer: a-865: long story short the whole website currently experiences connection issues... might that be the reason? |
| [18:56] | SlavekB: Interestingly, responses problems are observable at both places - TGW/Weblate at vpsFree.cz (in Europe) and also web, wiki,... on tde-box (in America). |
| [19:00] | a-865: apt update fails too |
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| [19:02] | Fat-Zer: SlavekB: as for your comment: no, the commands return lines with whitespaces at the start. OUTPUT_STRIP_TRAILING_WHITESPACE doesn't trim them |
| [19:03] | Fat-Zer: hm... I'm wondering if Gitea can handle replies via mail... |
| [19:04] | SlavekB: OK, I thought the selected solution could be because of this problem. Thank you for your confirmation. |
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| [19:05] | SlavekB: Creating an e-mail will pass it on to the local process and this then follows the outgoing connection - it has no problem with that. |
| [19:06] | a-865: is https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instructions correct in stating 14.1.x currently exists for Trixie? |
| [19:07] | a-865: using trinity-sb works |
| [19:09] | SlavekB: Yes, the packages TDE R14.1.4 for Trixie were added to the official repository short time before the final release of the Trixie. |
| [19:09] | Fat-Zer: SlavekB: no... I meant if I can reply to the email notification to post into an issue... |
| [19:10] | SlavekB: Oh, I understand. No an email gateway with connection to TGW is not set yet. |
| [19:12] | a-865: the ppa source times out. the archive source produces error: "W: Skipping acquire of configured file 'deps-r14/binary-amd64/Packages' as repository 'http://archive.trinitydesktop.net/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x trixie InRelease' doesn't have the component 'deps-r14' (component misspelt in sources.list?)" |
| [19:13] | SlavekB: In official releases repository is not "-r14" suffix on components. |
| [19:14] | a-865: I knew it had to be something in my face :( |
| [19:16] | a-865: mucho gracias :) |
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