#trinity-desktop logs

agneli: ninja -v -j2 -l2

agneli: [1/15] /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -D__LIBR_BACKEND_libbfd__ -D__LIBR_BUILD__ -Dr_shared_EXPORTS -I/libr -I/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libr-9999/work/libr-9999_build -march=native -O2 -pipe -fvisibility=hidden -fPIC -MD -MT src/CMakeFiles/r-shared.dir/libr-bfd.c.o -MF src/CMakeFiles/r-shared.dir/libr-bfd.c.o.d -o src/CMakeFiles/r-shared.dir/libr-bfd.c.o -c

agneli: /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libr-9999/work/libr-9999/src/libr-bfd.c

agneli: FAILED: [code=1] src/CMakeFiles/r-shared.dir/libr-bfd.c.o

agneli: /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -D__LIBR_BACKEND_libbfd__ -D__LIBR_BUILD__ -Dr_shared_EXPORTS -I/libr -I/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libr-9999/work/libr-9999_build -march=native -O2 -pipe -fvisibility=hidden -fPIC -MD -MT src/CMakeFiles/r-shared.dir/libr-bfd.c.o -MF src/CMakeFiles/r-shared.dir/libr-bfd.c.o.d -o src/CMakeFiles/r-shared.dir/libr-bfd.c.o -c

agneli: /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libr-9999/work/libr-9999/src/libr-bfd.c

agneli: /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libr-9999/work/libr-9999/src/libr-bfd.c: In function ‘setup_sections’:

agneli: /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libr-9999/work/libr-9999/src/libr-bfd.c:247:84: error: macro "bfd_copy_private_section_data" requires 5 arguments, but only 4 given

agneli: 247 | !bfd_copy_private_section_data(ihandle, iscn, ohandle, oscn)

agneli: | ^

agneli: In file included from /usr/include/bfd.h:10,

agneli: from /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libr-9999/work/libr-9999/src/libr-bfd.h:8,

agneli: from /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libr-9999/work/libr-9999/src/libr.h:97,

agneli: from /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libr-9999/work/libr-9999/src/libr-bfd.c:32:

agneli: /usr/include/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bfd.h:1040:9: note: macro "bfd_copy_private_section_data" defined here

agneli: 1040 | #define bfd_copy_private_section_data(ibfd, isec, obfd, osec, link_info) \

agneli: | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

agneli: ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed.

agneli: upsss

agneli: sorrryyy

agneli: it was supposed to be this: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1399178

agneli: gentoo and package is dev-libs/libr-9999

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agneli: i restarted the merge and it now started in a different order so let's see

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Fat-Zer: agneli: looks like sys-libs/binutils-libs changed API in 2.45 a bit. should be an easy fix; thanks for reporting. As for now you may rollback to ~sys-libs/binutils-libs-2.44 or USE="-elficons" for trinity-base/tdelibs

[07:21]

agneli: ach... thank you Fat-Zer

[07:21]

agneli: i just upgraded sys-libs/binutils-libs :)

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Fat-Zer: agneli: I was actually wrong, the issue is supposed to be already fixed, but the package looks for the current ld version rather than than the binutils-libs' one... so you can just switch to newer binutils to mitigate it: `eselect binutils set x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-2.45`

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agneli: wow I did not know this is slotted

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agneli: thank you Fat-Zer

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agneli: checking

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agneli: i confirm it worked, thank you again

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Fat-Zer: np

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agneli: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1399197

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agneli: trinity-base/tdelibs

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agneli: robably rebuild cmake after changing binutils?

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SlavekB: This is not related to binutils, but to the change of KSimpleConfig => TDESimpleConfig, which took place in the master branch some time ago.

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agneli: thjanthank you SlavekB but what I have to do then, please?

[09:39]

agneli: *thank you :)

[09:40]

agneli: edit ebuild?

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SlavekB: This looks like the original version of the library from the system instead of a new version of the build tree is linked there.

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agneli: i updated today I believe

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agneli: hmmm

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agneli: emaint sync -r trinity-official

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SlavekB: I assume that if you want to uninstall the existing library from the system, would it cause uninstalling everything that depends on it?

[09:43]

agneli: yes Sir

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agneli: but I can force

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agneli: but my system will crash I guess... :)

[09:46]

agneli: seems it fetches new one

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SlavekB: We will need to solve it so that new libraries in the build tree are preferred over the libraries that may be in the system. However, it will probably have time after the release of R14.1.5, which will be at the end of this month.

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agneli: this is perfectly fine

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agneli: however, I am rebuilding everything, should not that be OK?

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agneli: provided I am rebuilding in the proper order?

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SlavekB: We also watched this in the case of TQt as such - in building it could link the old version of the library from the system instead of just the build-up new versions.

SlavekB: When creating distribution packages like DEB, RPM, ArchLinux, this is no problem, because building there is always in a clean chroot.

agneli: perhaps you have list of those libraries handy SlavekB? :)

agneli: i can rebuild one by one

agneli: soemhopw I am not very comforpatble with having a broken system ;)

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SlavekB: But if the user performs a build on a system that already contains an old version, it sometimes gives this unexpected result.

agneli: note down what I have and then remove one by one?

agneli: or just uninstall plain everything and start from scratch?

agneli: :)

Fat-Zer: agneli: it's a known issue on gentoo with live ebuilds: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde-packaging-gentoo/issues/402 ; long story short the binaries that are getting built and run try to use old version of tdelibs

SlavekB: In any case, a change in KSimpleConfig => TDESimpleConfig will require rebuild not only tdelibs, but also other libraries and applications that can be affected.

Fat-Zer: to workaround you may `mv /usr/trinity/14/lib64/{libtdeio.so.14,libtdesu.so.14,libtdeui.so.14,libtdecore.so.14,libDCOP.so.14,libtdefx.so.14} /tmp`

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Fat-Zer: or unmerge tdelibs before rebuilding

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Fat-Zer: as stated the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is the culprit, but before removing it I'll need to test that it won't break the build in other ways

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agneli likes the /tmp idea :)

agneli: hmmm

agneli: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1399214

agneli: it just moved the links

agneli: not the actual libraries

agneli: is that OK?

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Fat-Zer: AFAIR, yes, the binaries are linked via names

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Fat-Zer: *the symlink names

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agneli: I am rebuilding everythign anyway so I guess the links will be redone by some of the packages?

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agneli: names sound familaiar

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Fat-Zer: those all belong to tdelibs

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zeroability: Hello. Just wanted to let someone know there was a certificate issue with your domain. When trying to fetch the RSS feed from kontact, I get "The IP address of the host trinitydesktop.org does not match the one the certificate was issue to."

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zeroability: I guess it expired 9/28/25? I'll try manually removing it and see if that helps.

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SlavekB: zeroability, thank you for your notice - fixed.

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SlavekB: When I was making changes to the web server configuration, I didn't realize that www.trinityktop.org and trinitydesktop.org (without www) are two separate certificates.

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zeroability: Yeah, it's weird. "www" is also a legacy option. You would think it would just resolve as an alias.

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agneli: but there are some connectivity issues atm

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agneli: is that related, please?

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agneli: basically every second package fails while fetching

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zeroability: Did the cert get changed on the mirror? Sometimes that takes time to propagate, if so.

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SlavekB: Last night I made changes to the main server to test whether the replacement of the web server would be beneficial - this concerned the website, wiki, web interface for mailing lists.

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zeroability: I noticed the sites can be slow to respond for a while now.

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zeroability: I take it you also have to bounce the gitea from time to time.

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SlavekB: The next round will be changes on the vps - this will apply to the primary redirector (mirror.ppa.), cgit interface (mirror.git.), TGW, TWTW.

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zeroability: Sounds good.

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SlavekB: There is a larger number of services on vps, so the main server were tested first.

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Fat-Zer: SlavekB: by the word, speaking about certificates, the cert for https://crashreport.trinitydesktop.org/ is expired

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SlavekB: I have to try to contact Tim because this service is still on his server.

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Fat-Zer: ok

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iamtdeusernomill: Hey, you guys had some server downtime for your arch mirror these last few days?

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SlavekB: The server is not down, but busy because of the high interest from "amazing" AI bots. Surely they will learn a lot new thanks to the study of tarballs, binary packages, and so on ;)

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iamtdeusernomill: Thank you, yeah I should probably stop probing the mirrorlists too at times, but sometimes pacman just wants to have a go at it.

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iamtdeusernomill: Its been a few days so, hopefully it will get resolved :)

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CupsCups: Hello!

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CupsCups: I'm newly using TDE on my Devuan system.

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CupsCups: Does someone know why Alt + Tab does not show windows on other desktops? Is there a setting to change that?

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CupsCups: And can Konsole do copy-by-selecting?

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agneli: is that Alt + Tab behavour normal?

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agneli: is there any DE that circless through all windows on all desktops?

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agneli has no idea

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ceux: idk theres probably a way to do it if you patch tdm

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ceux: i patched tdm for alt+~ to tab between windows of the same class

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ceux: i think thats actually upstreamed

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ceux: so theoretically paging through all is an option thats probably easy to add.

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agneli: isn't tdm a display manager for tde?

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Fat-Zer: agneli: twin can cycle thorough windows on all desktops, there is a setting for it in its config

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ceux: agneli: tdm is the portal

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ceux: tdm is the sorry, window manager

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ceux: qwertial aphasia

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agneli: isn't twin the window manager for tde?

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agneli: am I mixing things?

agneli: Fat-Zer: the question actually comes from CupsCups :)

Fat-Zer: yes it is

agneli: he looks for this setting

agneli: 19:02 < CupsCups> And can Konsole do copy-by-selecting?