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SlavekBkb9vqf: trinity-apt-archive source packages uploaded to queue, now waiting to build
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kb9vqfSlavekB: Can you send a link to the packages so I can up the build priority?
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+packages?field.name_filter=trinity-apt-archive
kb9vqfThanks
SlavekBkb9vqf: It appears that two packages remain in queue below:
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282070
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282076
kb9vqfSlavekB: Must have missed those; updated
SlavekBkb9vqf: For some reason failed two of the build-deps on ppc64el == fell again in queue low:
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/280506
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/280516
kb9vqfSlavekB: Thanks for the heads up; rescored
pitrisshi guys, please can you tell me what kind of data expects yakuakes dcop call yakuake session-1 setSchema ? I tried to put there all kinds of schema names but it wasn't work as expected.
kb9vqfpitriss: I don't use yakuake personally so I don't know exactly what data is expected, but have you tried kdcop?
pitrissyep It says TQString
pitrissbut when i tried all known schema names it doesn't changed schema
pitrissweird thing is fact that schema call returns empty string (I guess it should return name of schema used)
SlavekBkb9vqf: Well, trinity-apt-archive packages seems to be ready for copying.
pitrissor I'm using it in wrong way..:) I'm not too much skilled in dcops
kb9vqfSlavekB: Copy in progress
kb9vqfpitriss: You might have hit a bug.  kdcop is normally very reliably, so I'd guess that the yakuake DCOP interface is reading/writing the wrong schema variable
pitrissah so should I file bugreport?:)
kb9vqfpitriss: Probably
tbottu10New TDE bug 2537 filed by chytrex@wjake.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2537 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , yakuakes dcop session-1 setSchema / schema calls not working
kb9vqfpitriss; Thanks
pitrisskb9vqf: ok I just did it:)
pitrissyoue welcome:)
pitriss*youre
pitrissI found this bug when I tried to temporarily workaround another bug in yakuake with terminal background:D
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Updated "apt-archive" packages uploaded also for LibreOffice-trinity: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~libreoffice-trinity/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-trinity-staging/+packages?field.name_filter=apt-archive&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
kb9vqfSlavekB: Rescored.  What URL dud you use in that package?
kb9vqf*did
SlavekBhttp://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/libreoffice-trinity/ubuntu
kb9vqfOK, that looks correct...just checking :-)
SlavekBPerformed again only change from ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net to mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org
kb9vqfI just wanted to verify since there is a close but incorrect variant that would not use the mirror system
SlavekBI checked the functionality of url before uploading packages :)
kb9vqfgreat!
kb9vqfSlavekB: I think you have the required permission to copy the packages from staging to production, correct?
SlavekByes
SlavekBkb9vqf: once built packages will be ready to copy, then I can perform it :)
kb9vqfok
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Two build-deps again need to prioritize.
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/280536
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/280551
kb9vqfSlavekB: Done
SlavekBThank you!
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SlavekBIncidentally: Updated libreoffice-trinity-apt-archive packages have been published in the official PPA.
kb9vqfSlavekB: When you have a possible patch for the LibreOffice build issue you can either upload it to the LO Gerrit system yourself and send me a link or just send me the patch and I'll handle upstreaming -- it's up to you (though the LO folks probably prefer you to upload it yourself)
kb9vqfNever mind, I see your Email :-)
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SlavekBkb9vqf: If you think it would be better to sent patch to Gerrit myself, I will try to test patch first.
kb9vqfSlavekB: My only concern is policy on the LO side; I think they probably prefer you upload the patch yourself if you originated it, but I don't think they are as strict as other projects (meaning I could send it if need be)
SlavekBDo you have a build environment where you could test this patch?
kb9vqfYes, I have GIT all set up and ready to go
kb9vqf*LO git that is
SlavekBI routinely build LibreOffice from Debian packages...
kb9vqfAh, yeah, maybe I should take over here since I'm all set up already and upstream integration is a pain :-)
SlavekBI also already have LibreOffice git clone, but I have not ready environment for build LO from git :)
kb9vqfSlavekB: On second thought I may have already archived that VM
kb9vqfif you want to work on getting it tested / submitted feel free
* kb9vqf is still cleaning up from the outage mess
SlavekBkb9vqf: I can send a patch to Gerrit myself, but first I would like to have verified that really solves the problem :)
kb9vqfSlavekB: I'll have to decompress that VM
kb9vqfI'll get back to you later today:-)
SlavekBkb9vqf: It is for me a challenge that I, little ant, could contribute to such a large project, such as LibreOffice :)
kb9vqfSlavekB: Well, I've contributed to a lot of base packages like OpenLDAP, Kerberos, etc.  This is part of what makes open source great! :-)
SlavekBkb9vqf: A few years ago I corrected one long-term bug in Mozilla (incorect handling with Windows UNC path) ... also it was an interesting feeling :)
kb9vqfYep, I know what you mean
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2530 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2530 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , Build issue: Git tdelibs FTBFS
SlavekBkb9vqf: Oh, I noticed that you were cut old irc log - that's great, thank you!
SlavekBBefore that it was loading horribly long.
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MutantTurkeythings going well around here?
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kb9vqfSlavekB: Unfortunately the LO patch only fixed part of the problem: https://paste.ee/p/gjLkf
kb9vqfMutantTurkey: Slowly, but they are going :-)
MutantTurkeythat's what i like to hear!
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InukazeHi there , this channel still alive ?
InukazeWell , i don't see an email to send my question
Inukazeyou have a version of trinity desktop for ArchLinux /Manjaro with OpenRC ?
InukazeIn special the TDM , because with openrc i have glitches with lxdm and mdm , and sometimes works sddm , but lightdm , xdm , gdm , entrance , slim , don't works fine with openrc
MutantTurkeyYes.
MutantTurkeyThis is alive a channel
MutantTurkeyDid arch switch to openrc? interesting.
InukazeNo , but i have more specific manjaro with openrc i switch manually
MutantTurkeygotit
InukazeManjaro have an iso version with openrc
MutantTurkeydoes straight ol' starttde work to launch the desktop?
Inukazeol'? what ?
MutantTurkeyThe issue you're having is launching TDE or?
Inukazeahm no , no , i wanna install TDE in manjaro , but the official repos dont work for me i can't install it
Inukazeand i wanna know if works with openrc
MutantTurkeygotcha, so how can I help you?
InukazeSome mirror repositories for test if works for me ?
MutantTurkeyI don't see why not, depends if you are using the display manager or not
MutantTurkeyeither way you can run a trinity session regardless of dealing with the display manager problem
Inukazei can't install nothing from TDE Official repo for archlinux , unreachable hosts
Inukazei wanna test the full desktop in manjaro with openrc
MutantTurkeyah yes, those don't exist any longer
Inukaze:(
MutantTurkeyunless they do and i am wrong
MutantTurkeyInukaze: aren't there AUR packages for it?
Inukazelet me see
Inukazenope
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Updated patch for LibreOffice flies in the mail.
SlavekBInukaze: Until here will not be a volunteer to take care for ArchLinux Trinity packages, packages simply cannot exist.
SlavekBQuery for ArchLinux packages is repeated here, but as long as everyone will just ask and nobody fails to produce a helping hand, moving forward does not occur.
Inukaze:(
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Inukazebye people , if you can make a poll in Manjaro OpenRC ISO , if someone ar interested in help to support TDE for OpenRC ISO Version of Manjaro :D
Inukazein the forum i was meant XD
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tbottu10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2454 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2454 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, REOPENED , KMail crashes on next start when closed in Offline mode
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tbottu10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2454 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2454 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, KMail crashes on next start when closed in Offline mode
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kb9vqfSlavekB: I think that patch fixed the compiilation issues.  Can you submit it and send me the link?
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SlavekBkb9vqf: patch merged! See http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=4f0a68eb
kb9vqfSlavekB: Cool, thanks!
kb9vqfSlavekB: Since you have more epxerience with pmount, etc. is there any way that you know of to replace the "pmount" call here https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/tree/tdecore/tdehw/tdestoragedevice.cpp#n1280 with a DBUS call?
kb9vqfpmount isn't working very well in some cases
kb9vqfso what I am asking is: can we use udisks[2] for that purpose or is there a different DBUS service to unlock LUKS devices?
SlavekBnow I have to go away for a few hours
SlavekBThen I can look at it.
SlavekBAnyway, I'm finishing last patches related to bug 2521.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2521 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Installation of TDE breaks Unity and Gnome Desktops
kb9vqfSlavekB: Thanks.  I don't have much time to actually hack on the codebase as I am  trying to make ends meet due to the recent server repair expenses :/
kb9vqfbut I'm still trying to keep things moving along....
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2521 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2521 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Installation of TDE breaks Unity and Gnome Desktops
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pitrissSlavekB: hi, does have your preliminary wheezy repo also source packages?:) I'm thinking about adding src repo into sources.list and use it to try fixed dcop notification daemon:)
pitrissIt could be easier than compiling from source tarballs.
SlavekBhttps://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
SlavekBpitriss: everything is available :)
pitrissok thank you:)
pitrissSlavekB: i will try to compile it then:)
SlavekBSoon I will make a regular weekly update of changelog:
SlavekBhttps://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Changelog_For_R14.0.2
pitrissgreat progress..:)
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pitrissSlavekB: please do you have any clue whats wrong? http://pastebin.com/wXB6nbSh
SlavekBpitriss: you have enough space on a partition?
pitriss13GB free
SlavekBThat's certainly enough.
SlavekBFile /home/chytrex/TEMP/tdelibs/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.2~pre9/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/dcop/libDCOP.so.14.0.0 exists and looks like valid?
pitrissit had zero size
pitrissi'm trying to rerun that..:)
pitrissstill the same result and it looks like there are no previous errors during compilation
pitrissmaybe its because i should use Gcc 4.6 instead 4.7?
SlavekBYou can try to search in log where is linked libDCOP.
pitrissok so i will run it again and redirect all output to file to have complete log as my console "backlog" is not long enough..
SlavekBGCC version would not be a problem.
pitrissok..
pitrissSlavekB: http://pastebin.com/ARLpUAaQ is that info you needed?
SlavekBpitriss: Ha, two things are strange - is used tdeelfeditor from the /opt/trinity/bin instead of from the build folder. And the information that are trying to save to the libraries are "14.0.0" "10/12/2015 3:05:41" instead of "14.0.2"...!
SlavekBCan be used for building a clean chroot - for example pbuilder?
pitrissi have not set up such enviroment yet..
pitrissThats why i tried to use apt-get -b source ...
SlavekBNow it seems to mingle being compiled R14.0.2 with already installed R14.0.0.
SlavekBBy the way, why you do not use binary packages from preliminary stable builds apt source?
pitrissbut i can try to setup build enviroment if it help you discover some bug.. otherwise i can wait till R14.0.2 will be released..:)
pitrissI don't want to break my desktop:D
SlavekBI use R14.0.2~pre every day :)
SlavekBFor building in any case, I recommend pbuilder.
pitrissI just tried to build tdelibs to fix that annoying dcop notifications:D
pitrissBTW do you use yakuake from trinity?
pitrissok i will look at it someday..:) or maybe i will switch to preliminary repo:)
SlavekBI tried yakuake and I found that such a method of operation does not satisfy me.
pitrissok.. thats probably why i found some bugs in it.. :) Because not so much ppl here is using it:) These issues are more cosmetic tho..:)
SlavekBkb9vqf: I think that 'SAK' can only be used with a local display, not with the remote. Is it correct to write UseSAK else than for local display?
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kb9vqfSlavekB: I haven't taken a very close look at it, but in any case on one user's system here there were two separate UseSAK entries with conflicting settings, which was causing issues with the themer TDEControl module
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kb9vqfSlavekB: Scheduled maintainance has been pushed back to 10/15/2015 due to slower than expected replacment part delivery (I have some of the parts but am still missing two items)
kb9vqfeveryone else: I could use some additional funding as I am currently way over budget on TDE and am having to backfill with non-TDE related work... :-)
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2530 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2530 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: Git tdelibs FTBFS
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2528 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2528 critical, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Add support for subversion 1.9
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2521 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2521 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Installation of TDE breaks Unity and Gnome Desktops
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 791 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=791 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Akode: add the akode arts plugin to the Trinity repository
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kb9vqfMost services restored; mailing lists still a work in progress.  New estimated service restoration at 19:30 GMT
SlavekBkb9vqf: I've updated the 'akode' in the deps-r14. Please, can you raise the priority - especially for ppc64el?
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+packages?field.name_filter=akode
kb9vqfSlavekB: ppc64el priority updated; there aren't too many x86 builds in queue so we'll just let it work through
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1596 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1596 enhancement, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, [i18n] TDM should use system-defined language by default
SlavekBkb9vqf: clearly, I'm not worried about the amd64 and i386 :)
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2525 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2525 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdenetwork R14.0.1 tarball FTBFS on Slackware 14.1
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kb9vqfAll services are now back online!
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2538 filed by assolutooccidentale@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2538 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , i cannot install trinity on stretch
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2538 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2538 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , i cannot install trinity on stretch
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Nj÷run seems to be stuck in Cleaning.
kb9vqfSlavekB: I'll reset it
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Sj÷fn seems to be stuck in Cleaning.
kb9vqfSlavekB: Let me reset it....
SlavekBkb9vqf: Lords of Ubuntu are really 'sweethearts'!
SlavekBI assumed that when Oct. 15 was final freeze that already will be "no" changes, and I can build packages as 'final' == without '~a' suffix.
SlavekBToday I see that they update the gcc.
kb9vqfyeah
kb9vqfI've learned not to build TDE for release until Ubuntu is already shipping
SlavekBfully understand
SlavekBFortunately, it seems to be a minor change
SlavekBkb9vqf: Incidentally, for the build-deps on Wily I had to put gpsim.
SlavekBsee https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpsim/+bug/1501390
kb9vqfInteresting
* kb9vqf goes to rescore your ppc64el builds
SlavekBWhile on Debian problem was resolved the next day, on Ubuntu nobody cares...
kb9vqfThat pretty much matches my experience as well
kb9vqfI've been slowly moving over to Debian from Ubuntu, as I don't really care about the bleeding-edge features anymore (KDE SC 5?)
SlavekBkb9vqf: When debugging bug 2521 I first looked at Unity and Gnome 3.x - one stranger than the second :)
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msb__Has Trinity been ported to any *BSD?
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kb9vqfmsb__: Yes, though from what I understand there are some threading problems remaining
kb9vqfmsb__: It's mentioned on the main site (news release https://trinitydesktop.org/newsentry.php?entry=2015.08.30)
kb9vqfFreeBSD
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SlavekBmsb___: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/freebsd?h=r14.0.x
SlavekBmsb___: http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2462
tbottu04Bug 2462: blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [FreeBSD] Crash in threads tdm, kdesktop,...
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msb___Thanks!
SlavekBOne more bug on FreeBSD - probably also related threads:
SlavekBhttp://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2526
tbottu04Bug 2526: major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [FreeBSD] Konqueror freezes upon typing '/' in address bar
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Meili and Nj÷run seems to be stuck on Cleaning
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Note: build-deps for Wily are updated and complete == including compiz https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+packages?field.series_filter=wily
kb9vqfI'm waiting for the Stretch deps and will copy all at once
SlavekBfor compiz on a Stretch we wait for the tdebase and before that the necessary dependencies == tdelibs => arts, avahi, dbus,...
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+packages?field.series_filter=stretch
kb9vqfSlavekB: I meant the base deps
* kb9vqf is pretty swamped at the moment
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SlavekBbase build-deps (without compiz) are ready also for Stretch
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kb9vqfSlavekB: I had some time to look at the dependencies PPA; Stretch and Wily packages are copied
kb9vqfAny other updates I should be aware of?
SlavekBkb9vqf: It has been updated 'akode' in all distributions. However, for R14.1.x should already be built together with other packages from GIT.
kb9vqfSlavekB: Yes, good point.   I need to delete the extra akode package from the nightly build deps
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2528 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2528 major, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Add support for subversion 1.9
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kb9vqfSlavekB: New news item posted to main site
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2115 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2115 minor, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Native tqt3 sqlite3 driver is duplicated in the krecipes source code
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WorkingTurkeyis there a launch helper required to run with an application through kmail
WorkingTurkeynot using tde right now, but using kmail
WorkingTurkeyclick on a link it asks me what I want to launch with then nothing
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2434 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2434 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: smartcardauth rpmlint errors
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2434 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2434 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: smartcardauth rpmlint errors
SlavekBkb9vqf: Nj÷run seems to be stuck on Cleaning
kb9vqfRebooting....
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pitrissGuys.. can someone test kopete's default ICQ login address? Correct is login.icq.com
pitrissIDK if it was dragged into my configuration by migration from KDE3.5 or if its wrong in package..
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2539 filed by darrella@clovermail.net.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2539 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Incorrect desktop icon displayed for SD card
tbottu10New TDE bug 2540 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2540 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14.0.3 official bug list (meta bug)
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kb9vqfSlavekB: We need to discuss R14.0.2
kb9vqfI think you uploaded all packages already, correct?
kb9vqfIf we're good to go you should tag R14.0.2 and I'll go ahead and get the release ball rolling on this end
SlavekBNo not. So far, in my PPA are packages for R14.0.1.
SlavekBI must proceed to the tag in GIT, create source packages and upload.
SlavekBkb9vqf: I suppose I will do so this weekend.
SlavekBFor now all builds and testing were in my preliminary stable builds repository.
kb9vqfOK
SlavekBAs you probably read, Michele also had no objections to tagging without the wait after hardfreeze.
SlavekBkb9vqf: If you want, in my PPA is ready R14.0.1 for Wily == could be published immediately.
kb9vqfWill copy now
kb9vqfSlavekB: Copy / upload in progress :-)
SlavekBThank you.
kb9vqfNP
kb9vqfThanks for the uplaods
kb9vqf*uploads rather
SlavekBkb9vqf: On weekend I plan to upload R14.0.2 packages without packages for Stretch. Until is not final would unnecessarily delaying builds of other packages - especially ppc64el.
kb9vqfSlavekB: Yes, you should wait until R14.0.2 is finalized -- that's why I was asking about the tagging
kb9vqfFrom what I can see it's pretty much ready, but we were waiting on one or two bugs?
kb9vqfI have one commit I would like to make to the LDAP utilities, but I don't know if the problem affects the SRUs or not
SlavekBI think that at this moment there are no bugs that would need to wait.
kb9vqfOK, sounds good
kb9vqfI'll see if there's anything I need to fix tomorrow and you can tag/upload over the weekend
SlavekBAlthough the list of Bug 2468 are still some items, but I think it can be moved to R14.0.3.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2468 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14.0.2 official bug list (meta bug)
SlavekBFor bug 2529 is not enough information and I also do not consider it essential for R14.0.2.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2529 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , KPPP fails everytime on PCLinuxOS with TDE R14.0.1
SlavekBkb9vqf: I assumed that I could tag on a Sunday afternoon - if nobody would find something major / blocking.
kb9vqfSlavekB: Sounds like a reasonable goal
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SlavekBkb9vqf: I can again tag the first in my local git repository and upload tags after the finished builds in my ppa.
kb9vqfHowever you want to do it; as long as the source in your PPA matches the final tags I'm fine with it
SlavekBYes, R14.0.1 exactly match the tags. And I suppose that even R14.0.2 also will be built successfully :)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2541 filed by rossi.f@inwind.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2541 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ark rar improvements: fix support with rar utilities v5.x and improve listing of folders
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2541 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2541 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , ark rar improvements: fix support with rar utilities v5.x and improve listing of folders
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kb9vqfSlavekB: This commit should probably go into R14.0.2: https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/libtdeldap/commit/?id=3fdd5c96
kb9vqfHmmm, you're not here
kb9vqfWill poke later
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SlavekBkb9vqf: 3fdd5c96 (libtdeldap) backported to R14.0.2
kb9vqfThanks
SlavekBplease, can you adjust priority for compiz builds?
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/282447
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/282454
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kb9vqfslavekb: done
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SlavekBkb9vqf: please, you can raise priority of remaining compiz builds? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/282461 https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/282468
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2538 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2538 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, i cannot install trinity on stretch
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2536 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Sj÷fn seems to be stuck in Cleaning
kb9vqfrestarting...
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SlavekBkb9vqf: please, you can raise priority of last pending compiz build? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/282468
kb9vqfDone
SlavekBThank you!
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2536 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 needs packaging, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 791 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=791 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Akode: add the akode arts plugin to the Trinity repository
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SlavekBkb9vqf: all compiz build-deps for Stretch are ready to copy https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+packages?field.series_filter=stretch
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Meili and Nj÷run seems to be stuck
SlavekBWell, Nj÷run is already in work :)
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WorkingTurkeykb9vqf: I can retroactively license it public domain right?
kb9vqfWorkingTurkey: Yep
SlavekBkb9vqf: Meili and Nj÷run are stuck on Cleaning.
WorkingTurkeyk
WorkingTurkeyjust emailed you nack.
WorkingTurkeyback'
kb9vqfthanks
kb9vqfSlavekB: Restarting
WorkingTurkeyIn other news here's my lastest pride and joy, since I work in software, now I have fun with cars
WorkingTurkeyhttp://i.imgur.com/NGG1gLl.jpg
WorkingTurkey1993 Saab 900 Turbo Convertible
kb9vqfNice!
* kb9vqf is a VW / Audi man
WorkingTurkeyI am on a swedish kick, it's my 3rd saab
SlavekBkb9vqf: all compiz build-deps for Stretch are ready to copy https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+packages?field.series_filter=stretch
kb9vqfcopied
WorkingTurkeyAnyone run into issues outside of a  TDE session using kmail or other programs?
WorkingTurkeymy open with dialog does not work unless I am using TDE
WorkingTurkeywhich I can only assumes mean I am not running some sort of helper service.
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Meili seems to be stuck on Cleaning.
kb9vqfAgain?
* kb9vqf goes to reset it
SlavekBYes, again.
kb9vqfI will likely be acquiring some real Power8 hardware in a couple of months
kb9vqfso these problems should go away then
kb9vqfhowever until then you'll just have to keep poking me when the builders go down ;-)
SlavekBI try to constantly supervise them :)
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Sj÷fn seems to be stuck on Cleaning.
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Sj÷fn is stuck on Cleaning.
SlavekBkb9vqf: knock knock :)
kb9vqfSlavekB: Was away from this machine
kb9vqfResetting
SlavekBthank you
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Meili is stuck on Cleaning
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Meili is stuck on Cleaning
kb9vqfSlavekB: As you can probably tell this is a busy week for me regarding work -- I'm not monitoring the channel very closely
kb9vqfResetting.....
SlavekBkb9vqf: All right, no hurry. That is why I am sometimes reminded to message not remain sunk deep in history :)
kb9vqfThat works
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2542 filed by aw30@sayne.org.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2542 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Digikam 0.9.6 selection crash
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SlavekBkb9vqf: please, you can raise priority of tqt3 ppc64el build? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282901
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kb9vqfDone
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Sj÷fn is stuck on Cleaning.
kb9vqfSlavekB: Resetting....
kb9vqfDid I mention I was working on acquiring real POWER8 hardware for December? ;-)
SlavekBPlease, you can raise priority of libtqtinterface build?
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282975
SlavekBNo, you have not mentioned this. That's good news!
kb9vqfYeah, it's expensive, but the company needs to evaluate its performance for potential use in another area.  Benefit of that for TDE is that a couple of POWER virtual machines won't hurt anything....
kb9vqfThis is where most of the cash to run TDE comes from BTW: https://raptorengineeringinc.com
kb9vqfmy day job :-)
SlavekBkb9vqf: I understand - on the 'dotRiver', where gave me a virtual machine for builds, have the main usage quite clear :) http://www.dotriver.eu/
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kb9vqfSlavekB: Yep, looks pretty familiar.  They also donated space for the mirror system
SlavekBYes, I know - in addition they made a second mirror for my Preliminary stable builds repository.
SlavekBThey probably uses Ubuntu 14.04 on ppc64el.
kb9vqfsounds correct
SlavekBIn fact, for them I added build for trusty@ppc64el into the preliminary stable builds.
kb9vqfright, and that's when I went and added first support to QuickBuild as OpenPOWER is a priority target
kb9vqfso you were somewhat ahead of our processes here in selecting ppc64el :-)
kb9vqfconsidering the hardware isn't even generally available this level of support is pretty good IMHO
SlavekBI wonder when will apear some users interested in Arm64 :)
SlavekB...we already are ready for them :)
kb9vqfQuickBuild doesn't have arm64, I assume you're referring to your builds?
SlavekBYes, true, packages are available on the preliminary stable builds.
kb9vqfPersonally I don't really see the point of ARM trying to expand into servers; datacenters need higher density, not wasted space like that
SlavekBHowever, the source code is ready for build on Arm64.
kb9vqfah, ok
kb9vqfARM is so popular because the processor stinks
kb9vqfit's low power computationally, and therefore low power electrically
kb9vqfmost attempts to scale up have lost the power savings advantage
SlavekBHowever, mobile devices and cheap desktops could find usage for arm64.
SlavekB...and for such a desktops could be TDE a good choice :)
kb9vqfYes, there ARM makes sense, though at the prices I've seen (> $2,000 USD) most of the systems are targetted at datacenters
kb9vqfthe consumer systems (~$100 - 200 USD) are 32-bit
SlavekBI will now offline for several hours...
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Please, you can raise priority for libtqtinterface on ppc64el? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282975
kb9vqfSlavekB: done
SlavekBthank you!
kb9vqfnp
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Sj÷fn seems to be stuck
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kb9vqfSlavekB: Reloaded again
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SlavekBkb9vqf: please, you can raise builds neeeded for tdelibs?
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282938
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283086
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283123
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283160
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283197
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SlavekBkb9vqf: please, you can raise builds neeeded for tdelibs?
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282938
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283086
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283123
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283160
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283197
kb9vqfdone
SlavekBthank you!
SlavekBNote - Sj÷fn seems to be stuck.
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kb9vqf...of course it is
kb9vqfresetting....
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SlavekBkb9vqf: please, you can raise priority of last two builds neeeded for tdelibs?
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283086
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283123
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Meili seems to be stuck.
kb9vqfresetting
SlavekBkb9vqf: and priority for recently mentioned builds?
kb9vqfSlavekB: I thought I rasied it, let me check
kb9vqfyep, already rased
kb9vqf*raised
SlavekBthank you - I see, that arts is now on Njorn
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kb9vqfSlavekB: Where do we stand on release?
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Windoze98i'm having troubles getting the system notifications to work... does anyone know how I could start diagnosing this?
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Windoze98is anyone available?
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SlavekBkb9vqf: we proceed forward successfully
SlavekBAre built dependencies, basic packages and libraries. Applications are underway.
SlavekBplease, you can raise priority for tdelibs? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283271
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kb9vqfdine
kb9vqf*done rather
SlavekB:)
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SlavekBkb9vqf: please, you can raise priority of caldav, carddav and tdebase?
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283012
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283049
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283345
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jentronwhat is the name of the settings app? On KDE I think it was kcontrol, but I'm not seeing that in trinity
SlavekBjentron: On Debian / Ubuntu is package kcontrol-trinity => binary is also kcontrol, as was on KDE3.
jentronThanks. I guess I need to fix my profile to include /opt/trinity/bin so I can find these things. :)
SlavekBIf you use starttde, paths is added by this script.
SlavekBWhen you do not use TDE session, you need to add paths manually...
jentronYes, I'm not running the trinity sessionmanger right now, I'm still setting up/settling into a newly installed system
SlavekBWhen you add paths manually, should be useful also set XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS - see starttde.
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jentronThanks SlavekB, maybe I should just reboot into trinity. :)
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SlavekBkb9vqf: please, you can raise priority for tdesdk? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283606
kb9vqfSlavekB: Done
SlavekBthank you!
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tbottu10ac586133@hotmail.com changed the Status on bug 2536 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 needs packaging, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla
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kb9vqfSlavekB: Are you able to access the TDE keyserver?
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Yes, I tried to ask TDE keyserver for my key and I got the right response.
kb9vqfSlavekB: I got an Email earlier saying the keyservers were down
kb9vqfvery odd
kb9vqfthanks for checking though!
SlavekByou're welcome
SlavekBkb9vqf: For your information: ppc64el are the last packages on which builds we are waiting. All others are successfully built!
kb9vqfsounds great!
SlavekBAnd packages for ppc64el successfully proceed forward.
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2543 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2543 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS on Fedora 23 / perl 5.22
tbottu10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2543 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
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raevynhello. has anyone installed tde on an kubuntu 14.04 and when trying to log in to it, it errors saying tdeinit couldnt start?
SlavekBraevyn: you have installed package kgtk-qt3?
raevynlet me check one moment
raevynugh no.. let me try that ty
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SemiNushi
SemiNusI'd have a question, please
SemiNusthe taskbar shows me 3 rows of minimized windows
SemiNuschanging the size of the panel does not affect the amount of rows
SemiNusI would like to set the amount of rows to 2
SemiNusand most important of all:  The minimized windows should be displayed larger
SemiNusthe buttons are really, really small (the buttons representing the minimized windows in the taskbar)
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SemiNushi :)
SemiNusI use trinity desktop again since yesterday
SemiNusand there are 2 things I wonder about:
SemiNusa) why does google-chrome *always* get no focus after I open it using the ALT+F2 dialogue window?
SemiNusb) Is there something like a device manager available as  tray icon,  where I can mount / unmount devices?  (like in KDE 4?)
SlavekBad a) I do not know, I run it from the menu, and I not noticed problems
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SemiNusre
SemiNusSlavekB !
SemiNusI am sorry
SlavekBad b) In the current version, there is no tray icon. You can use Konqueror and url media:/  - Applications to tray will be new in R14.1.x!
SemiNusI had a bad discussion on #kde  (for version 4) and then I /quit
SemiNusI am sorry I forgot that I asked something in trinity channel
SemiNuswhen is 14.1 to be released?
SlavekBIt will take some time - I expect the first half of 2016.
SlavekBApplication is now a new and will be even more improved :)
SemiNusSlavekB, then I wish you and the team the best :)
SlavekBthank you!
SemiNusoh, and about google chrome
SemiNushow can I prove the problem?
SemiNusscreencast?
SemiNusor what can I do to should you that there is really a problem?
SemiNusand one other thing:
SemiNusxchat starts immediately when I call it from a shell (konsole)
SemiNusbut xchat does *not* start through ALT+F2
SlavekBI suppose verbal description of the problem will be sufficient.
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SlavekBSemiNus: Do not hesitate and fill in a bug report :)
SemiNusSlavekB, I am a little afraid of having my words forever in a bugtracker
SemiNusthat will make me thing 2 years of how to write it ^.^
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SemiNusdo you experience the same problem on your system when you run google-chrome via ALT+F2 ?
SlavekBI usually not use Alt + F2 :)
SlavekBI gave Alt + F2, wrote "chromium", gave Enter, wait a few minutes and chromium opened as active.
SemiNusChromium != Chrome
SemiNusI use google-chrome
SlavekBNote: I have not installed google-chrome, chromium only
SemiNusthen I try chromium
SemiNusI need to start into trinity again
SemiNusgimme a moment, I show up again in 2 minutes
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SemiNusSlavekB, re
SemiNusI am on trinity now
SemiNusso, there is a bug with google-chrome
SlavekBme too ;)
SemiNuschromium-browser works fine
SemiNusSlavekB, I tried KDE 4 before,  but I really dislike it
SlavekBinteresting
SemiNusI asked for some solutions in #kde and they hated me a lot when I asked them why they changed everything to the worse
SemiNususually,  people add functionality
SemiNusKDE 4 changed functionality,  and there is a bug,  they simply remove the option instead of solving it
SemiNusI am very happy that trinity desktop exists
SemiNusSlavekB, what I just said was about KDE 4 (!)
SemiNusnot about trinity !
SlavekBSemiNus: I understood
SemiNusSlavekB, a few more bugs:
SemiNusplease try  ALT+F2    xchat
SemiNusthat does not start
SemiNuswhat can I do?
SemiNusand:  how can I add a shortcut to "konsole" so that  CTRL+Shift+C  copies text,  and CTRL+Shift+V  pastes text?
SlavekBI use KDE from beta version of KDE1 and Trinity is for me a logical continuation after KDE3.5
SlavekBI have not installed xchat
SemiNusyes,  definitely
SemiNushopefully trinity desktop will be continued for a long time
SlavekBregarding xchat: look into ~/.xsession-errors, if there appear some information.
SemiNusSlavekB, yep, there is an error
SemiNusI did:
SemiNustail -f .xsession-errors
SemiNuswhen I type something in ALT+F2  (does not matter what) I get this error:
SemiNuskdesktop: WARNING: failed to obtain ELF icon: ELF resource section not found
SemiNusbut I guess that is no problem, because I always get this error (no matter what I type)
SlavekBIn settings of the Konsole are Keyboard shortcuts - there are also Copy and Paste.
SemiNusBUT when I write xchat and press ENTER I get this:
SemiNus/bin/sh: 1: eeecc: not found
SemiNusSlavekB, where exactly?  I can't see any shortcodes?
SemiNus*shortcuts
SemiNusSettings -> Configure Konsole
SlavekBRegardless elf icon - it is only a warning - it does not affect the startup.
SemiNus/bin/sh: 1: eeecc: not found
SemiNus
SlavekBSettiongs => Configure shortcuts
SemiNus^ this one does *not* come when I run firefox
SemiNusthe last error message only comes when I try to run xchat
SemiNusthank you for the shortcuts :))
SlavekBThis "eeecc" is strange.
SemiNuswhen I run xchat in "konsole",  I get *no* message at all
SemiNusxchat starts then
SlavekBtry: file $(which xchat)
SemiNus/usr/bin/xchat: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=e1ee91a574d75886c56f8e1875b8a70382bea22b, stripped
SlavekBTry to type in Alt+F2 dialog full path to xchat.
SemiNusthat works
SemiNusis this the only solution?
SemiNusor can I fix that anyhow?
SlavekBit seems like a problem with xchat.desktop file.
SemiNusI just really start partying here :)
SemiNustrinity is cool :)
SlavekBHowever, I do not see anything suspicious in this file.
SemiNuslet me try something... I have an idea
SemiNuswait a moment
SemiNushahahaha :)))
SemiNusSlavekB, I solved it
SemiNusdo you want to know how?
SemiNusit's really a bad way to solve it, but it works :)
SlavekBSo, what was the problem?
SemiNusI only know the solution:
SemiNuscd /usr/bin/
SemiNusmv xchat xchat2
SemiNuscat > xchat
SemiNus/usr/bin/xchat2
SemiNusCTRL+C
SemiNuschmod 777 xchat
SemiNusthen you can run ALT+F2  "xchat"
SemiNusisn't that cool? :)
SlavekBinteresting
SemiNusthen there is an other problem:  tray icons sometimes open in seperate windows
SemiNusI have a screenshot which proves that
SemiNuse.g. google chrome,  xchat, etc.
SemiNusall the applications which have tray icons sometimes do not add the tray icon to the tray
SemiNusthey open the tray icon in a window
SemiNusSlavekB, sorry if that was asked too much ^.^
SlavekBYou ask about applications that I not use :)
SemiNussorry about that :(
SemiNusdespite of that: I LOVE TRINITY
SemiNusthank you and also thank Timothy
SemiNusit's great :)
SemiNusit is *fast*
SemiNusand it works as expected
SemiNusno surprises like in KDE 4
SemiNusbug in gwenview (crashes)
SemiNus(just found out that)
SlavekBon start?
SlavekBon openning image?
SemiNuson start
SemiNusI have a screenshot of the error message
SemiNusSlavekB, 1 last thing:
SemiNusmounting / unmounting
SemiNusthere is a harddrive attached to my computer already when it boots
SemiNusso there will pop up no dialoque window because I do *not* attach it later
SemiNusit's attached to the PC at the boot already
SemiNusthe only way I found to mount this device is:
SemiNuskwrite => CTRL + O => click the harddrive
SlavekByou can use url media:/ in konqueror
SemiNusthen,  I cannot unmount it via  /media/ any more in konqueror
SemiNusoh
SemiNusI am sorry I did it wrong
SemiNusI typed /media/
SemiNusit was media;/ ;)
SemiNusthx
SemiNuscan I add the command  "konqueror media:/"  to my tray icons?
SlavekBI use the link on the home page of Konqueror running a Web browser :)
SemiNusok I will create a command in /usr/bin/
SlavekBit should be enough to make desktop file.
SemiNustrue that
SemiNusSlavekB, thank you very much for your exhausting help!
SlavekByou're welcome
SemiNussorry that there were so many questions at a time,  but I switched back to trinity yesterday,  so all of those questions occured at the same time
SemiNusthank you again!
SemiNussee you soon, have a great evening :)
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Borg^Queenhello people
Borg^QueenIs anyone up for a camera challenge? gphoto2 on alexanders remaster isn't working it seems.
SlavekBkb9vqf: Please, you can raise priority for a few remaining R14.0.2 builds? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+builds?build_state=pending
kb9vqfSlavekB: Hmmm, that might take a while.  I'm going to see if there's an API-based solution or not
SlavekBI hoped that they are in queue before nightly, but apparently not, because the last half a day running a series of builds from nightly.
Borg^Queenhi, I've figured out that gphoto2 is buggy. I don't know if that's a trinity build (the packages says so) but it seems to crash when attempting to access a camera
Borg^Queengtkam doesn't use it so it works.
Borg^Queenoh wait it seems to use gphoto2
SlavekBUnfortunately, I do not know how are built packages for PCLinuxOS.
Borg^QueenNot to worry. I just wondered if this is a wide bug or specific
SlavekBI know that for Debian and Ubuntu is used gphoto from distribution.
Borg^Queendo they have any problems?
SlavekBUnfortunately I do not have tested it.
SlavekBI do not know if I have a device for which I would use gphoto...
Borg^Queenok
Borg^Queennot to worry
Borg^Queenwell gn to all
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SlavekBkb9vqf: Sj÷fn seems to be stuck
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kb9vqfSlavekB: Restarting
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yselkowitzso is it not possible to use qt3 to build tde R14.0.1?
SlavekBFor R14.0.0 and newer is used TQt3.
yselkowitz:-(
yselkowitzat first tqtinterface looks like it should handle the differences between them
SlavekBYes, TQt3 is in principle qt3 with builtin tqt interface. But probably no one in recent times test whether R14.x can be built with base qt3.
yselkowitzI just did
yselkowitztdelibs failed at tdefx due to missing TQStyleControlElementData
SlavekBHa, it seems that TQStyleControlElementData is not treated in tqt interface.
yselkowitzcould that just be added to tqtinterface if !HAVE_REAL_TQT?
yselkowitzno it's not
SlavekBnow I look into tqtinterface - here is in tqt.h:
SlavekB#define TQStyleControlElementData               QStyleControlElementData
yselkowitzbut there is no QStyleControlElementData in qt3
yselkowitzthis is an api new to tqt3
SlavekBYou need Qt3 from Trinity git repository.
SlavekBThe internal version number is as Qt 3.5
SlavekBYou cannot use Qt 3.3.
yselkowitzwait, you have a qt3 and tqt3?
SlavekBIn any case we recommended to use TQt3 rather than Qt3.5, because use Qt3.5 would require update and rebuild of existing Qt3 applications!
SlavekBQt3 is maintained, but for Trinity R14.x is now always used TQt3.
yselkowitzfrom the distro pov a separate tqt3 isn't optimal
SlavekBThanks to this original Qt3.3 may coexist on the same machine with TQt3.
yselkowitzbut it means you have to duplicate everything
yselkowitze.g. fedora still ships qt3/arts/kdelibs3
SlavekBHowever, for build is need to have only TQt3.
yselkowitzarts support in kdelibs3 requires libqtmcop
yselkowitzfor tdelibs you would need a libtqtmcop right?
SlavekByes
yselkowitzwhich means building your arts, not kde's
SlavekByes
yselkowitzwhich would then break kdelibs3
yselkowitzand so on for everything else which still carries qt3 support
SlavekBYou can see how it solves Franšois in Trinity packages for RPM based distributions.
yselkowitz?
SlavekBOn Debian / Ubuntu is Trinity located in separate /opt/trinity folder.
yselkowitzI thought the point of R14.0 was to not clash with kde?
yselkowitzwhich would imply no need for /opt (which, pardon the pun, is suboptimal)
SlavekBIt was renamed many classes, several applications, but many continue to use the original names - such as Konqueror, KMail,...
yselkowitzand here I thought those were all going to be renamed in R14 :-(
SlavekBRenaming everything completely would require much, much more effort.
SlavekBRemember that Trinity, including all applications is many times greater project than, for example Mate.
yselkowitzoh I know, I've been packaging kde for years
yselkowitzbut I still thought that was all part of R14
yselkowitzare all the shared libraries renamed?
SlavekBAll base dependencies for Trinity - tqt, dbus-tqt, avahi-tqt, etc was renamed == can coexists with original dbus-qt3, avahi-qt3.
SlavekBMany base Trinity libraries was rename - tdecore, tdeprint,... however, it is recommended to put a complete Trinity in a separate folder.
yselkowitzwhat about libkonq? libkipi? etc.
yselkowitzlibkdegames?
SlavekBThey should not interfere with the versions from KDE4 (in KDE4 probably have newer so version), but it probably would cause a collision with KDE3 libraries.
yselkowitz:-(
SlavekBtdegames was renamed, but libkonq not.
yselkowitzwell, not the answer I was hoping for, but thanks for your help
SlavekBWe do not have enough developers. And we prefer the necessary move forward (tdehw library for replace hal, etc.) before renaming, which require a lot of effort and for common users brings no benefit.
yselkowitzimho renaming is prerequisite to inclusion in distros
SlavekBYes, it is absolutely clear!
SlavekBTherefore currently is no effort to integrate Trinity as a standard part of distributions. It is clear to us that in this moment is not possible to think about that.
SlavekBIt could say that the Trinity is the largest desktop environment independent of any distribution :)
yselkowitzbut inclusoin in distros is a necessary step for building user base (and eventually contributions as well)
SlavekBThis makes it a bit ironic that currently has the support for the greatest number of versions of the distributions.
SlavekBLook at the list of supported versions of Debian and Ubuntu, look at the list of supported versions of RPM based distributions. And for all is available the latest version of the Trinity.
yselkowitzwell it's your choice, but I'd think you'd be better off being *in* the distros
SlavekBYes, sure, it would have been better.
yselkowitzin any case, I understand now what is going on, and I'll have to reassess my plans to build this myself
SlavekBUnfortunately, renaming absolutely everything requires more effort than we have available hands.
SlavekBYou looked at the rpm packages prepared by Franšois?
yselkowitzI was actually looking at packaging this for cygwin
SlavekBFranšois makes great efforts to support the many rpm based distributions.
SlavekBwow, cygwin == Trinity for Windows?
yselkowitzsort of
yselkowitzcygwin != mingw
yselkowitzcygwin is a *nix/x11 environment which runs on windows
SlavekByes, I know
yselkowitzI've been packaging kde for cygwin since the late 3.x days
SlavekBI sometimes use mingw based tools and also and cygwin based tools.
SlavekBNow I understand why collisions of libraries and binaries is for you a greater problem than official Trinity packages.
yselkowitzyep, no rpath
yselkowitzyou may know me as cygwinports
SlavekBwe are often surprised by what port users interested.
SlavekBFor example, ports for *BSD distributions.
yselkowitzI'm not surprised, both the technical requirements and interface changes to gnome 3 and plasma 5 have made many search for alternatives, particularly on non-linux platforms which seem to often be forgotten
SlavekBthe reason was little support for OpenBSD and greater support for FreeBSD.
SlavekB*BSD world seems to be quite fragmented :)
yselkowitzyes, unfortunately true
yselkowitzbut thanks for pointing out the fedora rpms, I'm curious to try those on my fedora system
SlavekBAs far as I know, Franšois is currently working on packages for Fedora 23
yselkowitzI'm still on f22
SlavekBby the way, soon will be released Trinity R14.0.2
SlavekBIn any case, it is pleased for us that, although we are for some very evil, there are a number of other users who are interested.
yselkowitzI understand there is no evil intent here, just a technical impediment
yselkowitzit would just be nice to see that overcome
yselkowitzhmm, the .repo file for f22 points to a nonexistent mirrorlist?
SlavekBAs the evil I had not in the mind you :) The main developer of kwin had previously need to very intensively proclaim that we are very bad.
SlavekBhttp://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/f22/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64/
yselkowitzyes I found it but the repo files should be fixed
SlavekBrepodata are wrong?
yselkowitzI installed the repo file per https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/FedoraInstall#For_Fedora_22_.28R14.0.1.29
yselkowitzbut the trinity.repo file therein pointed to http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f22/trinity-r14-x86_64.list
yselkowitzwhich doesn't exist
SlavekBAh, I see it.
SlavekBPlease, you can fill bug report?
SlavekBI suppose that Franšois can fix it quickly.
yselkowitzwow, just started tde on f22, that brings back some memories
SlavekB:)
SlavekBwelcome back at home :)
yselkowitzyour bz is a bit slow...
SlavekB?
yselkowitzfiled bug 2544
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2544 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , trinity.repo points to nonexistent mirrorlist
kb9vqfysellkowitz: RAID array is currently rebuilding from SAS disk failure, it will have better performance tommorrow :-)
yselkowitzkb9vqf, that would explain it
kb9vqfyeah, sorry about that.  You have impeccable timing, first disk failure in years :-)
yselkowitzI always have good timing :-S
SlavekBI have to go away - I will be offline for several hours...
yselkowitzthanks for the clarification SlavekB
SlavekByselkowitz: you're welcome
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SlavekBkb9vqf: please, you can verify priority of tdeaddons and rosegarden?
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/284052
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/287469
SlavekBthey are two of the latest builds... Rosegarden failed probably due to drive failure and perhaps because of this could be at the end of queue.
a-865can openSUSE 42.1 users use either the 13.1 or 13.2 repo, or must they wait for a dedicated repo?
SlavekBa-865: Unfortunately I have no idea how much different versions of libraries are used, and if it can cause a problem of dependencies for Trinity.
tbottu10New TDE bug 2545 filed by darrella@clovermail.net.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2545 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: kdbusnotification FTBFS
SlavekBa-865: it would be better to ask on the mailing list - there may react Franšois, who has a much better overview of RPM based distributions.
a-865SlavekB: Ok
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2545 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2545 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Build issue: kdbusnotification FTBFS
SlavekBkb9vqf: Please, you can raise priority for last two builds?
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/284052
SlavekBhttps://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/287469
kb9vqfSlavekB: Done
SlavekBThank you!
kb9vqfnp
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fusion809Hey guys, I was just wondering why PKGBUILDS haven't been written for TDE and its various components, so that Arch users don't have to manually compile Trinity and all of its several components in order to use it
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skrzypkb9vqf: how much developers are in TDE? I'm afraid that number of additional applications in TDE (games, tools, toys) might be too much effort for small group of developers.
kb9vqfskrzyp: Three core developers at present, none of whome have much time but Slavek has essentially taken on the release maintainer role
skrzypwait wait wait
kb9vqfskrzyp: Fortunately as TDE is relatively stable and mature software not much maintainance is needed
skrzyponly THREEE developers for about ~1 GB of sources?
skrzypE*
kb9vqfSee previous comments on relatively mature ;-)
skrzypah, okay
kb9vqfRemember TDE was forked from essentially the finished KDE 3.x series product
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skrzypkb9vqf: which version of GTK3 I need to use gtk3-tqt engine? The current one in Debian repo is crashing every gtk3 app
skrzypI'm going to attach a screenshot, gimme a sec
skrzypkb9vqf: https://sr.ht/wGQX.png
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2546 filed by darrella@clovermail.net.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2546 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , GTK3 Style Engine erases user defined settings
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tbottu10ac586133@hotmail.com changed the Status on bug 2534 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2534 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEHWLIB : TDE detects USB external cd/dvd burner as floppy disk drive
kb9vqfskrzyp: Sorry for the delay; just stopped by to check for something else and sway your message
kb9vqf*saw
kb9vqfThat particular software is alpha quality at best; I wrote it years ago by now when GTK wasn't really stable, and eventually got frustrated enough by GTK's limitations that I stopped working on it until GTK's API and capabilities matured somewhat
kb9vqfYou can still see the bug reports I filed on the GTK bugtracker for some of the most irritating issues
skrzypGTK API changes every release
skrzypsoo... -.-
skrzypkb9vqf: what should I do to get uniform GTK and Qt look then?
kb9vqfskrzyp: Not much you can do other than to start hacking on the theme engine :-)
skrzypmeh, those them engines mostly sucks
kb9vqfYou know KDE SC 5 and Gnome only "integrate" because someone created the same theme for both platforms, right?
skrzypdoes qtcurve is available to tde?
kb9vqfso basically you're stuck on one or two themes forever if you want the same look
kb9vqfyes, it's there
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skrzypkb9vqf: Is that very hard to package TDE in another distribution than redhat/debian based?
kb9vqfskrzyp: It shouldn't be, no, you just have to get the dependencies in order
skrzypkb9vqf: I use Void Linux on my desk, which is independent (but mature) distribution, uses own package manager where packages are generated from template files, like some sh scripts with some built-in functions
skrzypkb9vqf: example pkg: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/voidlinux/void-packages/master/srcpkgs/bomi/template
kb9vqfskrzyp: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/How_to_Build_TDE_Core_Modules
kb9vqfyou should be able to start from there
skrzypkb9vqf: so I should package about ~300 pkgs, it might need separate repo&#8230;
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2547 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2547 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KPDF not working on Debian Jessie
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Borg^Queenhi people I'm currently getting this warning; couldn't find charset data for locale c; using iso 8859-1
Borg^QueenThis is Ali's pclos remaster
Borg^QueenI'm trying to figure out how to fix it wo a reinstall.
pitrisshi.. this is i think not trinitys fault..
pitrisstry to reinstall locale files.
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Borg^Queenaye, just did, but I think I'm going to uninstall them and reinstall
Borg^Queenbecause I can log in as another user.
Borg^Queenlet's see what happens
pitrissok
Borg^Queenah, I see your reply now lol
pitrissdid it helped?:)
Borg^Queenjust about to see
Borg^Queenyes it did thanks
pitrissyoure welcome:)
Borg^Queennow I need to figure out how to kill off kde and leave trinity
pitrissthat depends on your distro..
Borg^Queenpclos
Borg^Queenit's Ali's remaster
pitrissidk that distro.. I'm using debian wheezy.. but PC LOS doesn't have apt-get..
Borg^Queenok all good so far. I've removed kdm leaving tdm
Borg^Queenthanks for listening, I appreciate it.
pitrissanytime:)
Borg^Queen:)
Borg^Queenok have to pause me experiments. two crakmonkeys are coming over
Borg^Queenoh crap they're dragging desktops with them. Wish me luck.
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pitrisslol, good luck then..
Borg^Queen>:
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SemiNusSlavekB, not sure if you are here at this time,  I only wanted to say THANK YOU :)
SemiNusYou helped me a *lot* the last time.
SemiNusI *love* using trinity-desktop!
SemiNustrinity is exactly what I need for my daily work life
SemiNusI am very, very grateful to you, SlavekB, and also to you, Timothy,  that you made this project come true
SemiNusI love trinity desktop :)
SemiNusthank you again!
SemiNusbye bye :)
BQ-AFK:)
BQ-AFKbye
SemiNushi BQ-AFK :)
BQ-AFKhi
SemiNusBQ-AFK, but hey for real,  it's the best desktop out there :)
SemiNusIt does exactly what I need,  being a programmer,  I need the desktop to work
SemiNusand trinity works perfectly :)
SemiNusgood night :)
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notebookhello can i ask here if i have some problem on TDE ?
pitrisstry it:)
notebookthanks, if i run krusader with using tdesu i see on konsole:
notebookError: "/var/tmp/tdecache-notebook" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
notebookError: "/tmp/tdesocket-notebook" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
notebooktdeio (KMimeMagic): WARNING: [bool KMimeMagic::mergeConfig(const TQString&)] KMimeMagic::mergeConfig disabled due to buggy libmagic version 514
notebookkrusader: WARNING: [KMimeMagic::KMimeMagic()] Failed to parse /etc/trinity/magic/tdeio.magic
notebookfirstime using chat, interesting how its works
pitriss:)
pitrissSo i don't have tdeio.magic file..
pitrissand does it run as expected?
pitrissbecause i'm getting too many *magic* errors/warnings and krusader is working fine
pitrissand about first error.. You can try to use tdesudo instead tdesu maybe. (if you are using sudo of course)
notebookkrusader run ok, but when i edit some file, its not possible save this file because of permission
notebookfor example in kate text editor
notebookand sorry for my english and thanks
notebookso with tdesudo its same error on konsole
pitrissalso that error about uid 1000?
pitrissweird
notebookyes
pitrissits strange for me because I have also owned these directories by me (uid 1000) and I have no error..
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notebookhmmm ..i dont know whats wrong
pitrissmaybe setting of tdesu..
pitrissbecause in my system tdesu is symlink for tdesudo
notebooki will try and thank you for your time and help, i want work with TDE, i remember when i was on KDE3 on opensuse, it was best
notebooki use Mint 17.2 now
pitrissOk.. I'm using debian wheezy:) You can try to ask later or wait till someone else try to answer your question:)
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notebookok..thank you :) have a nice day
pitrissnotebook: ask slavek he is really skilled developer..:)
notebooki will try it
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SemiNushi
SemiNusshort question:
SemiNusI tried this:
SemiNus"Start" => Trinity Control Center => Peripherals => Mouse => [x] Single-click to open files and folders
SemiNushowever, I still have to double-click when I want to open a folder / file in the Open-Dialogue window of kwrite
SemiNusany ideas what to change?
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SemiNusI try to restart KDE
SemiNusmaybe that helps...
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MutantTurkeykb9vqf: this trinity-users list is fuckin' absurd
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ShadowM00nsorry if I missed something already existing, but has anyone else had issues installing trinity on Ubuntu Wily due to a missing package?
SlavekBShadowM00n: missing packages?
ShadowM00nyes, libxp6 in particular
SlavekByou have apt sources for Trinity set to willy?
ShadowM00nI do, yes
SlavekBAh, I see it! On libxp6 depends only metapackage kubuntu-desktop-trinity. You can successfully install individual Trinity packages.
ShadowM00nlooking around, it looks like libxp6 was removed from Wily for some reason
SlavekBLater I'll look at it to prepare a quick fix for R14.0.2...
SlavekBShadowM00n: Thank you!
ShadowM00nglad I was able to help, then
SlavekBwell, here is origin:
SlavekBhttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657253
ShadowM00nmakes sense
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2548 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2548 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KStars failing to install "hot new stuff"
Borg^Queengn to all
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selkhi
selkit's trinity more light (in resources) than the original kde3?
Borg^Queenabout the same, maybe a little less.
pitrissGuys i want to ask.. when I'm shutting down my laptop, it is asking about some sending notifications or abort them.. But on desktop I have no such thing.. how I can autoforce abort on laptop?
Borg^Queennot following
Borg^QueenYou tried to shutdown and it stopped halfway and is hanging there?
pitrissnope.. its timed dialog which ask if i want to wait till some shutdown notification are sent or abort them
Borg^Queenah
Borg^Queensorry about the delay. I've been trying to figure out why ksevicemenus weren't working.
Borg^QueenOh you're seeing the application shutdown notification. A rectangular dialog yes?
Borg^Queenok me time is up. I'm off. gn or day to all.
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pitrissSlavekB: hi, please can you explain to me why on my laptop i see dialog with "sending shutdown notifications" while shutting down and how i can disable that?:)
SlavekBIn Trinity Control Center / TDE Components / Session you can disable Show logout status dialog.
pitrissSlavekB: so it will stop asking about aboir that? Thank you:)
pitriss*abort
pitrissbut err.. I have it enabled on desktop and it doesn't show such dialog when shutting down.. wait sec I will try to explain more that dialog:)
SlavekBThis disable the use of the window displaying the progress of the end of the session.
pitrissahh.. i want to force "abort send notification"
SlavekBHowever, if the problem is that some application does not respond to a signal to end of session, will be addressed this application.
SlavekBIf I remember correctly, the time for waiting to response from applications can not be changed in the settings. Only at build time.
pitrissthat dialog says "skip notification" or "abort logout request"... Is there way to force "skip notification" without asking?:)
pitrisshmm maybe could be better to add checkbox with "remember my answer".. because I don't see any missing application when my laptop statrs
pitrissso I don't suppose there is any app closed in wrong way..
SlavekBThe procedure is this: Is sent a signal about end of session to applications and is given time to respond. If some of application do not respond within a given time, the user gets to decide whether to wait, or force termination.
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pitrissSlavekB: ok now i understand.. so I have no other way how to force any option.. Is there way how to see which app is causing this?
pitrissSlavekB: I hope there is way to track down that app..:)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2549 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2549 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Users created in KUser don't appear in TDM
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Borg^Queenhi people I've noticed that trinity is centering the desktop icons when loading the desktop. how do I stop it from rearranging the icons?
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pitrissBorg^Queen: err right click desktop, desktop settings => behavior and there on second tab is "align icons" checkbox.. sorry my system is not in english so I can't tell you exactly
Borg^Queenno to worry I'll check again. I did look but pppphhh, never hurts to check again. I've often missed things.
Borg^Queenyou mean behavior, file icons, automatically line up icons (it's not checked off so not active) is that what you meant?
pitrissyep..
pitrissweird then..
pitrissBorg^Queen: hmm another idea
Borg^Queenok
pitrissright click desktop => icons => lock icons
Borg^Queentried that too, doesn't work
pitrissthen its probably bug
Borg^Queenagreed
pitrissbut it happened also on original KDE 3.5 that hidden panel caused moved icons..
Borg^Queenexplain
pitriss(thats what I remember)
Borg^Queencan you expand on it?
pitrisswhen I had hidden kicker on left size, then after start, it appeared as visible for tiny while which caused moving (and rearranging) of icons
Borg^Queenah I don't have auto hid on
Borg^QueenYes, I do remember that
pitriss:) ok then I have no idea why your icons are rearranged.. mine are ok..
Borg^Queenhmm, what distro?
pitrissdebian wheezy..
Borg^Queenah,
pitrissI don't like systemd, so wheezy is only option for me now... devuan is still too hacky..
Borg^QueenThat's why I don't use debian anymore, systemd
Borg^Queen /:
pitrissthere is too much disappointing things around debian last days..
pitrisswheezy is OK tho..
Borg^QueenAye,
Borg^QueenI'm thinking of going slackware, I like the philosophy of including devel packages
pitrissI just not decided to leave debian.. I still hope that reason can win there:)
Borg^QueenI hope so too.
Borg^QueenI just don't trust systemd
Borg^QueenSomething about it, makes me uneasy
pitrissFor me its breaking unix philosophy main reason why I don't like that tool.. not readable logs, its doing many things and nobody knows what exactly it is doing..
Borg^Queenexactly
Borg^Queenthank you that's exactly what bothers me. It's trying to do too much and it isn't transparent
pitrissI love those tiny tools doing exactly what they should.. I love to chaining them to do more complex tasks..:)
Borg^Queenexactly, I want to be in control
Borg^Queenif I wanted to be told what to do by software, I'd got to apple or MS
pitrissexactly..:)
pitrissbut there is not many distros without systemd.. gentoo, LFS..
Borg^Queenaye, that's scary
pitrissso I hope in BSD port working flawlesly.. There is no point to change distros.. when change, then it doesn't matter if its smaller or bigger.. both needs learning of something new.. so why not BSD.. there Lennart have (almost) no influence.. and there seems developement be more conservative
pitrissOnly thing what I need is some sane DE like Trinity.:)
Borg^QueenI also hate pulse audio for that matter
Borg^Queentrue
pitrissPulse audio is also great bloatware.. but.. there is reason to use it on some sucky onboard soundcards without hardware mixer..
pitrissbecause setting .asoundrc correctly can be really pain:)
Borg^Queenaye
pitrissI have SB Live! so I have no problem:)
Borg^Queenme too, SB Audigy
Borg^QueenI love SB, even though the company is a little turdy
pitrisshehe this HW can't be wrong choice these days.. last pieces of really good HW for good price:)
pitrissI don't judge companies too much.. even bad company can produce good products.. like MS and their Xpads.. they are surprisingly durable.. they can handle really rough gaming:D
Borg^Queenah lol xpads are outsourced to another company. MS just rebrands them
pitrissand xpad is more ergonomic than playstation like gamepads.. even If I prefer logitech, they have no gamepad with xpad layout
pitrissreally? I didn't did any research..:)
pitrissbut i love these gamepads...
Borg^Queenthey are good game pads
Borg^Queenbrb
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Borg^QueenI'm currently retrieving data from an 486 133mhz computer with a 1.6g hd
Borg^Queenit's an antique
pitrissstill better than dosbox for playing good old games:D
Borg^QueenYou read me mind. I'm saving to play dos games, Descent, Terminator etc
pitrissyeah:D
pitrissMy friend had 486 laptop.. I wanted it as great replacement for gameboy:D
Borg^Queenlol
pitrissI wasn't surprised that he decided to keep that awesome piece of HW:D
Borg^Queenoh selfish
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Borg^Queengn to all
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Borg^Queendoes anyone else have the problem of desktop icon centering and aligning when the desktop loads?
Borg^Queenah this is interesting it only happens as one user. the rest are fine. Is there  a file I can delete modify?
pitrissBorg^Queen: try to compare settings of these users:)
Borg^QueenI'm going old school and moving .trinity and letting it rebuild
Borg^Queenbrb
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Borg^Queenhi people I'm getting R14 update error dialog boxes on boot
Borg^Queenthe txt mentions three things, let me get the list
Borg^Queenkde-noatun.desktop, kde-d3lphin.desktop
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Borg^Queennm fixed it
Borg^Queenthanks
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pitrisshi I just noticed that you released 14.0.2. is there any mirror containing it to not overload main server?
SlavekBpitriss: What distribution?
pitrisswheezy
SlavekBI would say that you not need affraid about overload the primary server.
SlavekB...if you use apt source address mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org
pitrissSlavekB: ok i will try..:)
SlavekBOnce the packages lists will be updated on mirrors, should be also available packages for most distributions.
pitrissSlavekB: ok.. i'm trying to update now but its slow.. so maybe will be better to wait till mirrors will be updated too..
SlavekBand you're on apt source mirror.ppa....?
SlavekBI still do not see on mirrors an updated apt lists.
pitrissmirror.ppa is 302 to ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net and I already have this in my sources.list
SlavekBmirror.ppa uses 302 depending on where the packages are available.
SlavekBif you have in apt sources stated specifically ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net, you do not use mirror.ppa.
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tbottu10jorgebr51@yahoo.com.br changed the Status on bug 2456 from NEW --- to RESOLVED INVALID.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2456 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, close session with VNC also close other open sessions
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2550 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2550 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KMail not recognizing renamed/removed mail transport
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pitrissHi guys.. I wamt to report broken repo for wheezy..  it ends up with 301 moved permanently and can't find files
SlavekBRedirector on a quickbuild currently contains bug.
SlavekBYou can either wait until it's repaired, or change apt source to a new redirector and wait until R14.0.2 will be published on the mirrors :)
pitrissok i can wait..
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kb9vqfpitriss: Sorry, it's the Thanksgiving holiday over here and my system access is spotty.  Should be fixed
pitrissOk thanks:)
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SlavekBpitriss: redirector on master server is fixed!
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pitrissSlavekB: ohh thanks:)
SlavekBpitriss: download speed was also interesting? ;)
pitrissyep it was..:D few minutes instead of hours..:)
SlavekBbecause are downloaded from mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org, instead of from the master server :)
pitrissahh great:)
pitrissthank you guys for such great job:)
SlavekBthanks to it is now well on both sides - most users will download packages quickly, while synchronization to the mirros is not slowed by users!
pitrissyeah great solution..:)
kb9vqfWe now effectively have a thee-tier mirroring system, which isn't too shabby for a small open source project not renting infrastructure from a large corporation ;-)
kb9vqfSlavek's system is backup + level 1 cache / mirror, and the other two levels are largely from dedicated open source mirroring organizations
SlavekBWell, as a reward I am going to prepare dinner for myself ;)
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Borg^Queengn to all
SlavekBBorg^Queen: gn
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|avalon|ehlo :)
|avalon|anyone available for support ?
|avalon|problem is about installing on centos 7, lot of broken dependencies
tbottu10New TDE bug 2551 filed by danilo.bogdanov@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2551 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE fails to install on Centos 7 because of broken dependencies
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pathey people having trouble connecting to wifi with wpa
pitrisstry to use eg network manager, wicd or so.
patok wicd
patI've tried several apps but I get this msg
pat==>stderr: Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: Not a directory
pitrissI can't help you as I have no wifi device on my desktop:)
pitrissso I have no idea about wpa supplicant
patah
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kb9vqfSlavekB: Maintainence complete; came within a few minutes of restoration time :-D
SlavekBI see a build LibreOffice will probably remain in the queue and ran without help.
kb9vqfgood to know
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SlavekBkb9vqf: topis here could be updated to R14.0.2 :)
SlavekB*topic
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Anastasia:-):
AnastasiaW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  509  Maximum Instantaneous Bandwidth Exceeded
Anastasia:-)
SlavekBAnastasia: you should use mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org instead of ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net
AnastasiaAh, been a while since I set this up :).  Thanks.
AnastasiaJust change "/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net" to "mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org" ?  Anything else?
SlavekBYes, exactly
AnastasiaThanks!
AnastasiaWorks :-), much quicker too.
AnastasiaThanks again!
SlavekByou're welcome
AnastasiaGot to get this on the lappy, mint 17.2 with {rech, heave} kde4....
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pitrissHi guys.. Does anyone using Klipper actions?
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Borg^Queenhello to all
SlavekBBorg^Queen: hi
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Space_Manhello
Space_ManBorg^Queen: have you fixed your desktop window icon problem?
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SemiNushi
SemiNusSlavekB ?
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2552 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2552 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Long-standing TDE (KDE3 too) bug: KDesktop bug at startup on slower PCs
tbottu10New TDE bug 2553 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2553 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Adding this new startup splash screen for TDE: Architecture
tbottu10New TDE bug 2554 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2554 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Adding this new startup splash screen for TDE: Architecture
tbottu10New TDE bug 2555 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2555 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , At least KuickShow and MoodinKDE show low quality resized pictures
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2392 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Fedora 21 does not fully recognize ogg files
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2392 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Fedora 21 does not fully recognize ogg files
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2543 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2543 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: FTBFS on Fedora 23 / perl 5.22
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2442 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2442 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Ruby: uninitialized constant Qt::TQt in qtruby.rb
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yselkowitzis there a procedure for reporting security vulnerabilities in tde?
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2556 filed by yselkowi@redhat.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2556 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [SECURITY] CVE-2015-7543: arts,tdelibs: Use of mktemp(3) allows attacker to hijack the IPC
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2557 filed by mrmazda@earthlink.net.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2557 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [openSUSE] /opt/trinity/bin/starttde missing from $PATH, and will not run from /usr/share/xsessions/trinity.desktop via TDM
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Borg^Queenhello to all
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2557 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2557 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , [openSUSE] /opt/trinity/bin/starttde missing from $PATH, and will not run from /usr/share/xsessions/trinity.desktop via TDM
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tbottu10mrmazda@earthlink.net changed the Status on bug 2557 from NEEDINFO to NEW.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2557 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [openSUSE] /opt/trinity/bin/starttde missing from $PATH, and will not run from /usr/share/xsessions/trinity.desktop via TDM
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Borg^Queenhi any one up?
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Borg^Queenhi
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frusenhi
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Borg^Queenhello to all
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2417 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2417 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, pkglist.x86_64 not found
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1913 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1913 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, krandr wrong options to xrandr
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1875 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1875 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: libtqt-perl FTBFS - /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsmoketqt (needs smoke/tqt/.libs)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2558 filed by trin@3111skyline.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2558 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , katepart - find & replace - Placeholder Help Missing
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Borg^Queenhi people
Borg^Queenchalk (krita) isn't recognizing it's own file format
SlavekBBorg^Queen: I fear that this may be the result of many renaming that had been implemented. Please, can you fill bug report?
Borg^Queenok I'll try. Never actually file one before.
Borg^QueenI'm going to research it first. See if this hasn't come up in the past.
Borg^Queenit ONLY affect chalk
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pitrissHi guys, please what is correct format of exception line in kcontrol =>Components=>Session manager?
pitrissi want to put there multiple apps and IDK correct delimiter
Space_Man"Finally, you can enter a colon (:) separated list of applications that should not be saved in sessions, and therefore won't be started when restoring a session. For example xterm:konsole."
Space_Mansometimes the help button actually does have some useful info :P
pitrisslol but its rare when help button is actually helpful:D
pitrissthank you:)
pitrissand lol, my help says comma.. err.. some black magic is done here..
pitrissI guess localizations aren't updated after change..
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2556 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2556 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , [SECURITY] CVE-2015-7543: arts,tdelibs: Use of mktemp(3) allows attacker to hijack the IPC
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2558 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2558 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , katepart - find & replace - Placeholder Help Missing
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tdepowerHello.
tdepowerI was wondering how to get/install tdepowersave on a newly installed Trinity(Ubuntu) 14.04. installation. Anybody knows?
SlavekBmay be:
SlavekBaptitude install tdepowersave-trinity
tdepower...
tdepowerouh damn.
tdepowerThanks man..
tdepowerFailFIsh
tdepowerI thought I've tested that before!
tdepowerMhm..
tdepowerah ok 'man' exists
tdepowerThanks a lot!!!
SlavekByou're welcome
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tdepowerHey sorry, I have another question...or kinda related to it..
tdepowerAlthough I am able to execute 'man tdepowersave'
tdepowertdepowersave on the command line leads to: command not found ?!
tdepowerAm I doing something wrong? Or what else should be the cmd to start tdepowersave?
SlavekBis /opt/trinity/bin in PATH?
tdepowerOuh no
tdepowerIt is not!
tdepowerThat might be a thing!
tdepowerThanks again!
tdepowerThank you!
SlavekBYou're logged in TDE? Or in some other DE?
tdepowerI've just made a clean TDE install from the ISO of the hp..
tdepowerDownloaded it and installed it (TDE).
tdepowerBut had some issues with my earlier 12.04. TDE and moved some folders..
tdepowerWhich might be the reason for some things not working properly :/
tdepowerAnd use ssh atm..
tdepowerWorking remotely on that pc
SlavekBAh, that explains it - starttde would set the PATH.
tdepowerAh ok
tdepowerOk that helped a lot.
tdepowerThanks a again! And mb until another time!
tdepowerbb!
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2559 filed by rademes@inbox.ru.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2559 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror R14.0.1 does not show fixed hard disk size and used space correctly
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larry_New here.  I'm trying to load tde on centos 6 and getting this error:  "the name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by and service files.
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Borg^Queenhi anyone up?
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SlavekBBorg^Queen: You have R14.0.2 or R14.0.3~preliminary?
Borg^QueenR14.0.2
Borg^QueenI don't let the users use anything but 'stable'
Borg^Queen are you on R14.0.2, if so can you try to open a chalk template?
SlavekBFor R14.0.3 will be solved bug related to mime types - see: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Changelog_For_R14.0.3 - bug 2392
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Fedora 21 does not fully recognize ogg files
SlavekBI'm currently on 3.5.13.2 :)
Borg^Queenah lovely. Is it possible to update from an existing R14.0.2
Borg^QueenI've been thinking of going back to 3.5.13.2 since it seems to be rock solid
SlavekBYou can test Chalk and K3B on R14.0.3~pre?
Borg^Queenif I can move up to it.
Borg^Queenis there a repo I can add?
SlavekBFor Debian and Ubuntu are packages available in 'preliminary-stable-builds' repository:
Borg^Queenah rats I'm running pclos
SlavekBhttps://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Borg^Queenoh  well
SlavekBdoes not matter - I'll try to test over the weekend...
Borg^Queenok thanks
SlavekBWhat version of libmagic you have? (You can try: file --version)
Borg^Queenproblem is I have about 19 using R14.0.2 and experiencing these problems. So i'm trying to keep ahead of it.
Borg^Queenok hang on
SlavekBFor your information - R14.0.3 will going to release soon...
Borg^Queenexcellent
Borg^Queenlibmagic is 5.18
Borg^Queenlibmagic1 is 5.18 and libmagic6 is 6.8.0.2
SlavekBok, given bug could be related to this version of libmagic.
Borg^Queenmakes sense
Borg^Queenthey handle minetypes and lib functions right?
SlavekBThere are differences in returned mime types.
Borg^Queensorry?
SlavekBFor example, with file 5.11 is ogg file reported as: application/ogg.
SlavekBWith file 5.22 is same ogg reported as audio/ogg.
SlavekB...and problem is, that audio/ogg is undefined in TDE.
Borg^Queenhmm
SlavekBDue to this was audio/ogg degraded to application/octed-stream.
Borg^Queenooh
SlavekBAnd this will be fixed in R14.0.3
Borg^Queengood
Borg^Queentechnically this and the fact that the most visually impaired compatible theme (baghira) don't work, everything else is fine.
SlavekBAnd in the same manner may be affected also other mime types.
Borg^Queenaye
SlavekBon my home machine I have R14.0.3~pre, so I can try it there.
Borg^Queenthank you
Borg^QueenI have little problems with oggs here. Just the theme, k3b, chalk, rtf and a few more mimetypes
Borg^Queenok I'll be back in 3 hrs. Going on site to deal with crakmonkey office.
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pitrisserr guys.. wheezy package kpilot-trinity doesn't contain binaries
pitrissthere is only share/doc inside
BQ-AFKah crap
pitriss(14.0.2)
SlavekBpitriss: wow, good point
BQ-AFKbbl
pitrissSlavekB: I'm user of palm treo 680 so i wanted to give it next try as I have dificulties with correct udev lines
pitrissbb BQ-AFK
BQ-AFK:D
SlavekBpitriss: I think I know what the problem is.
pitrissSlavekB: Great.. :) I hope it will be easy to solve:)
SlavekBpitriss: yes, it will be easy :)
pitrissgreat:)
SlavekBpitriss: fixed in tde-packaging git. New packages will be soon in preliminary stable builds repository...
pitrissSlavekB: ok thanks:)
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Borg^Queengn  to all
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2560 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2560 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Desktop locking does not hide desktop contents
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2561 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2561 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE's QtCurve requires KDE on Debian Jessie
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SemiNushi
SemiNusSlavekB? ^.^
SlavekBSemiNus: hi
SemiNus:)
SemiNusI only have a few quick things
SemiNus1) You can only see the strenght of a WiFi network when it's a *new* network - the ones you connected before do now show the strenght any more
SemiNus2) in kwrite:  CTRL + SHIFT + I  (for un-indent) does only unindents until the first line of the block hits the left side - I cannot proceed unindenting then
SemiNus2) ALT+F2  "kdesu kwrite" does not work - (kdesu does not exist?)
SlavekBAd 1) You can install kwifimanager-trinity
SlavekBAd 3) In R14 was kdesu renamed to tdesu
SemiNusthx =)
SemiNusI would like to upgrade from Ubuntu 15.04 to 15.10  -  how would I make sure not to loose trinity desktop, please?
SlavekByou can change 'vivid' to 'wily' in your sources lists.
SemiNusbefore or after the upgrade?
SlavekBbefore
SemiNusand then I run "do-release-upgrade" ?
SemiNusI will try it :)
SlavekBif you use package triinity-apt-archive, you can download and install package from Wily:
SlavekBhttp://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu/pool/main/t/trinity-apt-archive/trinity-apt-archive_14.0.2-0ubuntu15.10.0+0_all.deb
SemiNuswhat does that mean?
SemiNustriinity-apt-archive ?
SemiNuslet me google it
SemiNus1 moment pls
SlavekBsorry for typo - trinity with one 'i', not 'ii'
SlavekBtrinity-apt-archive contains sources list for trinity apt archive.
SemiNusbut what would I do with it?
Space_Manusing kwrite 4.5.14 part of 14.0.2 I can indent and unindent fully
SemiNusI upgrade,  then I change the sources.list
SemiNuswhat would I need this package for?
SlavekBYou can manage sources list for Trinity manually, or using package trinity-apt-archive
SemiNusSpace_Man, thank you for the information!
Space_Manindents are tabs
SemiNusok I will do it manually
SemiNusSpace_Man, even if they would look like this:
SlavekBthen you can ignore package trinity-apt-archive :)
SemiNusfoo
SemiNusbar
SemiNusfoobar
SemiNusfoobar
SemiNusbar
SemiNusfoo
SemiNusSpace_Man, would you then be able to unindent them ALL in one action?
Space_Manno, it will only unindent until one line runs out of tabs
Space_Manthat has been the normal behaviour for kate for many years
Space_Manhttp://paste.debian.net/351745/  might help
SemiNusthx Space_Man !
SemiNusI'd have 2 more questions
SemiNuswhen I run "ALT+F2" kwrite,  the TDE version of kwrite starts
SemiNusbut there is also a KDE4 installed on this computer,  which also has a kwrite
SemiNushow does ALT+F2  tell kwrite and kwrite apart?
SemiNusI think about running "kwrite" from kde4 in TDE because of 2 things:  1) highlighting in JS files does not work properly in the TDE kwrite
SemiNusand 2) the unindent thingy
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Space_Manthat could be because of the $PATH  /opt/trinity may be before /usr/kde4 or wherever it's located
SemiNusthat makes sense!
SemiNusthank you :)
Space_Manand it could be wrong
SemiNusis there any kind of statistic about trinity desktop,  like how many users,  how much feedback, etc?
Space_Manan interesting question
Space_ManI have no idea
SemiNusand the follow-up question based on the question concerning the usage statistics would be,  if there is any kind of estimation from today's perspective whether or not the development is going to be continued
Space_Manask SlavekB and kb9vqf :P
Space_Manthe trinity servers need money to keep them running
Space_Manall the time we make donations, kb9vqf will keep the servers alive
SemiNusis kb9vqf Tim?
Space_Manhe also gives a huge amount of his time and money to the project
Space_Manyes
SemiNuscool ^.^
SemiNusI thought Tim would not be here in person :)
Space_Manhe rarely speaks :P
SemiNusjust found the page:  http://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php
SemiNusthx for pointing me to the donations, that's a good point
Space_Manthere are 3 or 4 main developers who also have day jobs
Space_Manso development is sporadic
SemiNusbut it's interesting that there are already 16 people in this channel
SemiNusthere was a time when there was only Slavek
SemiNusand maybe a second person
SemiNusbut now it seems to be so much more alive already
Space_Mansoon there should be a new release R14.0.3 which appears to be bug fixing release
SemiNusit's saddening that not more people see the advantages on trinity desktop
Space_Manwait for SlavekB to correct me
SlavekBCurrent is R14.0.2, R14.0.3 will be very soon
* kb9vqf quietly says hello, and goodbye at the same time ;-)
* kb9vqf is busy with other work ATM
SemiNus;-)
* SlavekB is now a busy by dinner ;)
Space_ManI like the current kwrite / kate trinity indent method
* Space_Man uses python
Space_Manmaybe hidden away in one of the option screens there is an box that changes the behaviour
SemiNuscould not find such an option
Space_Manow
SemiNuswell, usually the unindent-method is find
SemiNus*fine
SemiNusbut sometimes you simply want to unindent it all in order to build up the indention from new
Space_Manfind and replace for tabs would be very nice
Space_Man^\t*
Space_Mandoes ^/t* work on irc?
SemiNusbut can you apply find+replace only for a highlighted block?
Space_Manno, you can from the cursor and then find/replace one item at a time
Space_Manor copy and paste into another document and then remove the indents etc and copy/paste back
SemiNustrue that :)
SemiNusthank you for the tip!
Space_Manfind / replace for tabs, line feeds etc would be nice
SemiNus\t should definitely work when changing the search to regex
SemiNushowever
SemiNusI am happy about what we got (TDE)
SemiNushowever you turn it,  it's 100 times better than KDE4
SemiNusSlavekB, are you still around?
SemiNusI headed into huge dependency problems when upgrading ubuntu
SlavekBare all apt sources updated to wily?
SemiNusSlavekB, yes
SemiNusthe ubuntu-channel recommended purging the whole PPA
SemiNusbut I am not sure how to do that
SlavekBSemiNus: sorry, but I need to go away for several hours
SemiNushave fun :)
SemiNusand thank you for all your answers :)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2562 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2562 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Many applications can not open their own saved files
tbottu10New TDE bug 2563 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2563 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE Menu: root password vs sudo needs review
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2562 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2562 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Many applications can not open their own saved files
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2257 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , KWord/KSpread can't open valid .odt/.ods files
pitrissSlavekB: hi please can you look at #2537 it will allow me to hack around bug in yakuake with dissorted background image..:) It is quite annoying to maually select schema in yakuake everytime i boot my pc/open new tab in yakuake:)
SlavekBtbottu: please info about bug 2537 ;)
tbottuSlavekB: Error: "please" is not a valid command.
SlavekBplease info about bug 2537 ;)
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2537 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , yakuakes dcop session-1 setSchema / schema calls not working
SlavekBthank you ;)
pitrissI tried also yakuake from kde4 but it doesn't allow me to have one picture centered in it.. It only allows tiled background so kde4 yakuake is no go for me
pitrissI see you don't use yakuake.. but I'm using it daily as It doesn't clutter my panel with many konsoles opened:D
SlavekBI got it differently - I need to alway see the console (or at least a part). And also have the possibility to switch into console by the conventional switching between applications. Therefore yakuake not suit me.
SlavekBpitriss: I added yakuake bug in my list.
tbottu10New TDE bug 2564 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2564 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement] Improve mimetype support
pitrissSlavekB: ok thank you:)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2565 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2565 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KBookReader does not recognize PDF files
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tbottu10krisgamrat@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 2257 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KWord/KSpread can't open valid .odt/.ods files
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2566 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2566 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] TDM display issues on boot
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Borg^QueenHappy Christmas to all
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msb_DANGER WILL ROBINSON!  There is another "trinity", an EVIL "trinity".  It spews lots of files onto your disk and who knows what else!  It's here:  http://codemonkey.org.uk/projects/trinity/
msb_It runs lots of random system-calls.  The description says:  "I recommend not running it on machines containing data you care about. It's entirely plausible that trinity could start calling unlink() on files it randomly finds. You might also want to make sure that there are no nfs or similar filesystems mounted for the same reason."
msb_A friend of mine was trying to install TDE today and got onto that thing instead!
msb_There needs to be warnings about this!
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mirdahello
mirdamsb_: your friend doesn't read what he looks at
mirdathere is huge differebnce between "A Linux System call fuzz tester." and "Trinity Desktop Environment"
mirda*difference
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msb_mirda: You're right -- my friend was in a hurry and got careless.  On the other hand, I've been working with computers for 55 years and never heard of a "fuzz tester", nor any software called "Trinity" other than TDE.
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2567 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2567 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , No floopy drives in Storage Media
tbottu10New TDE bug 2568 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2568 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Compton-tde shows a shadow under SuperKaramba widgets
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holyguyverI am having the ages old problem of trinity apps not starting or appearing in menus because they are in opt/trinity but I have forgotten how to fix that, can someone help me out?
SlavekBholyguyver: you can try add /opt/trinity/bin to PATH, /opt/trinity/etc/xdg to DG_CONFIG_DIRS and /opt/trinity/share to XDG_DATA_DIRS
holyguyverSlavekB: Thank you
holyguyverSlavekB: Could you help me remember how to do that? There used to be instructions online, but I cannot find them.
holyguyverAnyone?
SlavekBholyguyver: For example, you can add exports to ~/.profile
holyguyverSlavekB: Thank you :)
holyguyverSlavekB: so like this? http://pastebin.com/qWbX8Kh6
SlavekBholyguyver: yes, like this. But you need only PATH and XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS.
holyguyverSlavekB: Thank you
holyguyverSlavekB: So like this? http://pastebin.com/wrrBtwBE
SlavekBexport XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg:/etc/xdg
SlavekBexport XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
holyguyverSlavekB: The path one is fine?
SlavekBexport PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
SlavekByou need not only Trinity in path, but also all system paths.
SlavekBAnd place your new exports outside condition "if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then"
holyguyverSlavekB: So like this? http://pastebin.com/FuQ1LxZS
SlavekBlast 'fi' is excess
holyguyverSlavekB: Do I have to restart for this to take affect?
SlavekBlogout / login
holyguyverSlavekB:  Okay, thanks
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cubexyzhi folks, I wanted to ask about ksysguard
cubexyzthis is quite a while ago but since KDE 3.5.10 it did strange things
cubexyz/opt/trinity/bin/ksysguard has the same strange behaviour...
cubexyzit fills up the panel with many instances of itself and I have to ctrl-alt-backspace to reset X
cubexyzbut there is also ksysguard for KDE >4 (this is all in q4os)
cubexyzit's not a big deal, but I assume the KDE 3 version of ksysguard is passe now?
cubexyzI had to go back to KDE 3.4.2 (oldest version I'm still running) on another machine to see ksysguard working correctly
cubexyzthis is on kde trinity 3.5.13.2 and also kde 3.5.10
SlavekBcubexyz: ksysguard is still part of Trinity.
SlavekBcubexyz: You can fill a bug report for this issue?
SlavekBcubexyz: I understand correctly that you mean ksysguard applet?
cubexyzSlavekB, yes
cubexyzKDE 3.5.10 did the same thing, I just didn't realize it until recently
SlavekBOn my experimental machine (currently 3.5.13.2) I tried to insert an applet and it working correctly - I can see graph for cpu and memory.
cubexyzok, it must have something to do with localhost or the way I have it set
cubexyzit keeps saying can't access localhost
cubexyzKDE 4 version of ksysguard works
cubexyzso on q4os I run /opt/trinity/bin/ksysguard and it freaks out
cubexyzso there are two different ksysguards
cubexyzok, it actually seems to work now :-/
cubexyzstrange
SlavekBOn my test machine is only TDE.
cubexyzok
SlavekBcurrently on Debian Wheezy.
cubexyzI might have altered /etc/hosts I can't remember
cubexyzbut it is working atm :)
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cubexyzok SlavekB I fixed the original KDE 3.5.10 problem which was an old prob
cubexyzbut I was wrong about the trinity one, it does work
cubexyzksysguardd was broken on one computer
leonardo_hi everyone, i'm using trinity on q4os distro, and the dialog boxes do not work with chromium/chrome ( like "save as" ). Anyone know solve it? thanks! (sorry for bad english)
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cubexyzis ksysv still part of trinity?
cubexyzoh ok, it seems to be there
cubexyzbut no package for q4os, hmmm
SlavekBcubexyz: package ksysv-trinity ?
cubexyzah that is it :)
cubexyzwas trying trinity-ksysv
cubexyzI'm glad that the old KDE 3.5.10 stuff survives in a new form
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2114 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2114 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Adept crash and high CPU use
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2569 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2569 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Adept not working with recent distros
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2570 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2570 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KPackage: problems with root priviledges
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2571 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2571 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tderandr: possible bug when configuring two monitor size
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a-865what package contains *infocenter?
a-865neither synaptic nor aptitude can find any such
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Space_Mana-865: have you tried looking for infocentRE
Space_Manwhat does it do?
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tbottu10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2467 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2467 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: Koffice FTBFS on Fedora 22 / Ruby 2.2.2
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2467 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2467 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Koffice FTBFS on Fedora 22 / Ruby 2.2.2
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tbottu10mrmazda@earthlink.net changed the Status on bug 2557 from NEW --- to RESOLVED WORKSFORME.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2557 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, [openSUSE] /opt/trinity/bin/starttde missing from $PATH, and will not run from /usr/share/xsessions/trinity.desktop via TDM
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2572 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2572 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Both Konqueror and Dolphin: Browsing a folder where a file is being copied is almost impossible
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Borg^Queenhello to all
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2573 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2573 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Kicker frequent crashes on R14.0.3-pre
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2573 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2573 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , [Regression] Kicker frequent crashes on R14.0.3-pre
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kb9vqfSlavekB: Just wanted to check in and see what the status of R14.0.3 was?
kb9vqfAlso I've been getting some pushback on the TDE slow startup time and wasn't sure if this a real issue or if it's just a case of KDE missing features again (essentially cheating on startup time)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2574 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2574 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kicker clock does not update time when changing time zone
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SlavekBkb9vqf: In the mail you will find a few notes regarding the release R14.0.3.
tbottu10New TDE bug 2575 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2575 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14.0.4 official bug list (meta bug)
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2563 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2563 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDE Menu: root password vs sudo needs review
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2217 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2217 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [stdout/stderr] Warning: using regular magic file
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techningeerIs anyone else having issues using the Trinity Repos right now?
SlavekBWhat problems? Do you use respositories on mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org?
techningeerSlavekB: I'm using ppa.pearsoncomputing.net
SlavekBprimary server is on the line with a limited bandwidth
SlavekBbetter choice is use mirror.ppa.
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techningeerSlavekB, so just replace ppa.pearsoncomputing.net with mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org?
SlavekByes
SlavekBAs just announced by Franšois, are published R14.0.2 for Fedora 21 == primary server will be busy for synchronizing 3.8 GiB packages.
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techningeerSlavekB: That worked. Thanks!
SlavekByou're welcome
techningeerTime to upgrade to R14.0.2, yay!
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2529 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2529 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED , KPPP fails everytime on PCLinuxOS with TDE R14.0.1
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2473 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk
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techningeerHello, had a quick question, is there any place to get additional themes for Trinity? Also, is there any documentation on creating your own theme anywhere?
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a-865anyone remember what nfs required before rpcbind was born?
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Borg^Queenhi anyone get skype working with apulse
tbottu10New TDE bug 2576 filed by dave1967@gmx.co.uk.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2576 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , removeable disc mountpoint ignored
mirdahello
Borg^Queenhi
mirdaBorg^Queen: APULSE_PLAYBACK_DEVICE=hw:1,0 apulse /usr/bin/skype
mirdafriend has this as ~/bin/skype
Borg^Queenah ok let me try
mirdahe has this configured to use his second sound card (he has two sound cards)
mirdahis mic is in his first sound card and was detected automatically
Borg^Queenah ok let me adapt it
Borg^Queenbingo
mirdayou need to investigate correct numbers in hw:x,y
Borg^Queenaye
mirdacongratz:)
Borg^Queenok maybe not
Borg^Queen[apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm, snd_pcm_open, Input/output error
Borg^Queen[apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm, snd_pcm_open, Input/output error
Borg^QueenALSA lib pcm_pulse.c:743:(pulse_prepare) PulseAudio: Unable to create stream: Oops.
Borg^Queen![apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm, snd_pcm_open, Input/output error
tbottuBorg^Queen: Error: "apulse" is not a valid command.
Borg^Queenlol
mirda!help
tbottumirda: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
Borg^Queenok it makes noise when it first starts up
mirdanoise? can you hear something in test call?
Borg^Queennope,
Borg^Queenlet me try again
Borg^Queennope, the call doesn't go through
mirdaahh
mirdadid you use correct hw device?
Borg^Queenhw:0,0
Borg^Queenas far as I can tell that's the right one
Borg^Queenthere are 3, there's cx20561 analog
Borg^Queencx20561 digital
Borg^Queencx20561 hdmi
mirdai don't use skype with apulse yet, so i don't have experiences with it
Borg^Queenaye but oddly you have brought me closer
Borg^Queenit's actually making sound
Borg^Queenok the first one is the only one that has any output
mirdatry aplay -l
Borg^Queenok
mirdayou can use also aplay -L
Borg^Queenok done
Borg^QueenI have the list
Borg^QueenI found a bash that might help
Borg^Queenbbiab
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2529 from CONFIRMED to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2529 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , KPPP fails everytime on PCLinuxOS with TDE R14.0.1
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pitrissSlavekB: hi, i think i found solution to http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2481 :) I added it into comments:)
tbottu04Bug 2481: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , krusader recreate useractions.xml from useraction_examples.xml
pitrissIf it load (and maybe even copy) examples when krusaderrc is not present for current user..:)
pitrissit should be OK I think
SlavekBOk, I'll look at it. But tomorrow - now I'm busy.
pitrissok np.. thank you very much:)
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Borg^Queenhello to all
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2569 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2569 major, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Adept not working with recent distros
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2529 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2529 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEEDINFO , KPPP fails everytime on PCLinuxOS with TDE R14.0.1
tbottu10New TDE bug 2577 filed by rademes@inbox.ru.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2577 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ksensors-trinity autostart does not working
tbottu10New TDE bug 2578 filed by rademes@inbox.ru.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2578 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Missing 'media-cdrom' icon in 'crystalsvg' icon set.
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tbottu10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2505 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, The wiki is broken for EL installation instructions.
tbottu10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2551 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2551 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDE fails to install on Centos 7 because of broken dependencies
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2578 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2578 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Missing 'media-cdrom' icon in 'crystalsvg' icon set.
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2576 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2576 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEEDINFO , removeable disc mountpoint ignored
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2579 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2579 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Disappearing things
tbottu10New TDE bug 2580 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2580 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] TDM Freeze after logout
tbottu10New TDE bug 2581 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2581 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Yakuake and Konsole suddenly unable to start shell
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popnflosshi
popnflossim getting these black bars in the title bars of windows
popnflosson every theme i use
popnflossim using the latest release
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jentronhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043686 this bug is present in the current TDE ...
tbottu04Bug 1043686: was not found.
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Borg^Queenhello to all
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tbottu10hauke@pc-kiel.de changed the Status on bug 2473 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, REOPENED , Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2473 from REOPENED to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk
tbottu10New TDE bug 2584 filed by X2Go-ML-1@baur-itcs.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2584 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ksmserver crashing when /sys empty or not existing
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2584 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2584 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, ksmserver crashing when /sys empty or not existing
jentronhttp://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1375 is the same bug as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043686
tbottu04Bug 1375: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , Not processed BACKGROUND, FOREGROUND, etc. colors in Xrdb and cause git gui to fail.
tbottu04Bug 1043686: was not found.
tbottu10New TDE bug 2585 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2585 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE Bugzilla  bug tracker missing TDE versions
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2473 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEEDINFO , Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2578 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2578 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, Missing 'media-cdrom' icon in 'crystalsvg' icon set.
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francesco_Hello everyone i would like to translate some entry in the "start menu" in italian, where i can find the po file? And also the turn off computer options (but i don't understand what the freeze button does. TYA.
SlavekBfrancesco_: this should be a good start point http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-i18n/tree/tde-i18n-it/messages/tdebase
SlavekBfrancesco_: and information about 'freeze' power state: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/power/states.txt
francesco_Thank you for the info, downloading now the i18n and i'll look at the text file.
francesco_Thank you again i've found out that ksmserver.po contains the shutdown entries, in the next days i'll translate it. Bye.
SlavekBfrancesco_: Thanks for hopeful news!
SlavekBTranslators are always welcome.
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2586 filed by winebugs140@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2586 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Stacking tool-tips in the shutdown dialog
tbottu10New TDE bug 2587 filed by winebugs140@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2587 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , White pixel near the shutdown dialog
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2588 filed by winebugs140@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2588 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , On some computers the shutdown dialog appears with the delay
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2588 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2588 minor, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , On some computers the shutdown dialog appears with the delay
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2473 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk
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turbo64hi
turbo64im looking at the power options and i cant figure out how to make it not go to standby with the laptop lid is closed
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2586 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2586 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Stacking tool-tips in the shutdown dialog
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2563 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2563 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE Menu: root password vs sudo needs review
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2586 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2586 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED , Stacking tool-tips in the shutdown dialog
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2356 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, kalarm possibly confused whether to use .trinity or .kde
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2315 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2315 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , kpdf "forgets" a page as soon as no longer displayed, has to re-render to display it again
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2477 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2477 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tde session won't run if kgtk-qt3-trinity is installed in jessie
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turbo64hi
turbo64any advice on getting gtk apps to play nice with tde
turbo64i tried gtk-qt-engine-trinity but some apps get totally fucked up when i use that
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2553 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2553 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Adding this new startup splash screen for TDE: Architecture
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francesco_Hello, i have translated a po file into italian. Where i can send it for inclusion? TYA.
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francesco_Hello, i have translated a po file into italian. Where i can send it for inclusion? It's also on google drive here ( ksmserver_ao for italian): https://goo.gl/v2QrSf TYA.
SlavekBfrancesco_: you can send it to me - slavek.banko@axis.cz
francesco_Ok i'll send it asap. Thank you
SlavekBI thank you!
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Component on bug 2553 from tdeartwork to other (any).
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2553 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2553 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Adding this new startup splash screen for TDE: Architecture
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zb_is there a way to make konversation always show the server window even when not connected
zb_so i can connect with /server instead of using the menus
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MicheleCIn this code
MicheleCTDEStorageDevice* parentdisk = static_cast<TDEStorageDevice*>(findBySystemPath(parentsyspath));+    disktype = parentdisk->diskType();+    diskstatus = diskstatus | parentdisk->diskStatus();
MicheleCif parentdisk is NULL, next line will segfault
SlavekBis already solved :)
MicheleCah ok, no problem then
SlavekBhttp://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/commit/?id=36481f68
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2589 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2589 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Reorganize "applications" folder into subcategories.
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NaGERSTHi
NaGERSTIs the trinity-desktop still contained /opt ? or is there plans to do like MATE and rename the components so it can be installed in the proper FHS directory? And also, is there a qtcurve plugin for trinity?
SlavekBNaGERST: Hi
SlavekByes, Trinity is still in /opt
SlavekByes, Qtcurve-trinity exists
NaGERSTThank you.
NaGERSTIs the ubuntu-trinity or q4os the prefered development target for trinity?
SlavekBTo rename in this moment is not a plan. Trinity is much greater than MATE, so it represents a larger effort.
NaGERSTYes that makes sense.
SlavekBPrimary development is done on Debian and Ubuntu.
SlavekBGood support also have an RPM-based distributions.
SlavekBAs far as I know, Q4os is based on Debian or Ubuntu.
NaGERSTI really enjoy APT, so that is fine by me as well.
SlavekBYes, I also prefer apt and Debian :)
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NaGERSTWow q4os sure installs a lot of stuff when chosing the medium profile. Everything from gtk3 to gnusterp stuff
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NaGERSTWhen i try to install ubuntu-trinity in virtualbox the system pauses and is impossible to unpause. Can i get around this?
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turbo64i just installed trinity and my system sounds dont work
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turbo64when i go to the system sound settings and click the test button it plays the startup sound, but they dont play anywhere else
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Space_Manturbo64: can you play music with amarok or hear sound from video with kaffeine etc?
turbo64yeah the sound works everywhere except the system sounds
turbo64even though system sounds are enabled, the service is running, etc
turbo64its set to alsa like everything else is
turbo64i cant figure out whats wrong
turbo64also is there a way to sort items in the menu by name
turbo64its sorting them by description instead of name
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popnflosshow can i remove all trinity packages with apt-get?
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pitrisspopnfloss:  err apt-get remove *-trinity ? quick idea.. i'm not apt master:)
tbottu10bobfreeman@nycmail.com changed the Status on bug 2356 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , kalarm possibly confused whether to use .trinity or .kde
tbottu10New TDE bug 2590 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2590 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ksnapshot print doesn't allow setting orientation
tbottu10New TDE bug 2591 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2591 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , twin 'Edit Window-Specific Settings' should have option to modify the title of the window
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2536 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 needs packaging, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, NEEDINFO , New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla
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tbottu10bobfreeman@nycmail.com changed the Status on bug 2356 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, kalarm possibly confused whether to use .trinity or .kde
tbottu10New TDE bug 2592 filed by tiposchi@tiscali.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2592 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , GPG key mismatch
mirdahello, please do you experienced that k3b crashes when you want to burn audio cd from a flac files?
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2592 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2592 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , GPG key mismatch
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2536 from NEEDINFO to NEW.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 needs packaging, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, NEW , New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla
mirdaso k3b doesn't burn audio cd either with flac source files or wav source files, it crashes
mirdaand it doesn't detect sox installed on a debian wheezy
SlavekBmirda: please, fill bug report about that
mirdawill do
pitrissand as bonus, when i click search it fills silly paths to programs..
pitrisseg /opt/schilly/bin.. I never had such directory in my system
SlavekBstrange
pitrissthese paths are dtill the same.. I delete wrong/unwanted ones, apply, ok, they appear there again
SlavekBIt looks like hardcoded default paths.
pitrissthats a bit weird approach.. this make such setting pointless.. if it resets to default.. It should override these hardcoded ones IMO..
tbottu10tiposchi@tiscali.it changed the Status on bug 2592 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED INVALID.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2592 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, GPG key mismatch
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2516 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2516 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , krusader should have support for xz archives as they are quite common now.
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2516 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2516 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, krusader should have support for xz archives as they are quite common now.
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a-865File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium 'http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse42.1/trinity-R14/RPMS/x86_64' :~(
tbottu10New TDE bug 2593 filed by q4os@q4os.org.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2594 filed by mrmazda@earthlink.net.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2594 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [SUSE] File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2593 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2594 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2594 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , [SUSE] File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium
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a-865what belongs in /etc/X11/default-display-manager on Debian to make tdm the default?
MicheleCon my system: /opt/trinity/bin/tdm
a-865MicheleC: on Jessied system I'm trying to get TDE onto, aptitude install tde-trinity claimed to run, but didn't even bother to create /opt, so I can't tell what it actually did do. Trying again doesn't help. :-(
a-865gobs of required packages are shown as not installed, but no clues offered why
MicheleCif no /opt folder, definitely TDE was not installed. Try following the instruction from here
MicheleChttps://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall#For_Jessie_.28Debian_8.x.29
MicheleCsorry, here: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall
MicheleCmake sure you read until the end
a-865that's the same page I've been using
a-865it started with nothing but lxde
a-865gobs of unmet deps
MicheleCon a clean system it works, I just did a clean Jessie VM a couple of weeks ago following to the letter.
MicheleCcheck that you have the right repo in /etc/apt/sources.list
MicheleCand make sure to do 'apt-get update' before installing
MicheleCalso check you have used the 'jessie' version of the repo and not another one by mistake ;-)
a-865jessie's the only release in sources.list, I've done apt-get update a bunch of times, and deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian is what's in sources list.
a-865inexplicable
MicheleCthen it is clear! you did not include the dependency repository
MicheleCdeb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main
MicheleCjust copy and paste the required repo from that page, it will do ;-)
MicheleCwithout the builddeps repo, some packages are missing and tde will definitely not install!
MicheleCdeb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie maindeb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie maindeb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie maindeb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main
a-865I thought that was optional? there are 4 lines, but I commented src lines, and thought builddeps was for developers/builders, which I never do
MicheleCyou can skip the source ones if you do not need them
MicheleCno, the builddeps is mandatory. Perhaps the name 'builddeps" is not ideal...
a-865big understatement
MicheleCinfact I call those packages "extra dependency" on my system
MicheleC:-)
SlavekBdeps-r14 in my apt repository :)
a-865mirror is making me wait......
a-865waiting for headers is taking forever
MicheleCyou may want to consider using the preliminary stable builds from Slavek: more updated and faster.
MicheleChttps://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
MicheleCjust put jessie where is required
a-865does trinity really want both udisks and udisks2?
a-865aptitude claims both are recommended
SlavekBudisks2 or udisks or pmount
a-865oh, right, aptitude claims both plus pmout are recommended :-p
SlavekBaptitude should mention these as alternatives == is enough just one of them.
a-865it lists them among a zillion other things
a-865spell checkers in thousands of langs for instance
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a-865wiki needs mention only the deb-src lines are optional, but I can't decide good place to make such a note. any suggestions?
SlavekBa-865: I believe that the appropriate place is behind title Add these lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list file - before chapters for each distribution.
a-865SlavekB: does "behind" mean above, or below "add these..."?
SlavekBbellow "add these" and before "For Stretch (Debian 9.x)"
a-865SlavekB: wiki done, and TDE on Jessie running. Thx. :-)
SlavekBwell, thank you.
a-865is there some meta package to install only just enough TDE to have a running session?
SlavekBtdebase-trinity
a-865SlavekB: thx
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MicheleC@a-865: just wondering: all ok now?
a-865MicheleC: right after you logged off: "SlavekB: wiki done, and TDE on Jessie running. Thx. :-) "
MicheleCgood to know :-)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2595 filed by tiposchi@tiscali.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2595 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , missing pinentry
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2595 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2595 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , missing pinentry
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2595 from NEEDINFO to NEW.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2595 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , missing pinentry
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2596 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2596 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE unusable/unstable for minutes if panel is moved upright to the right screen edge
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2597 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2597 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , mouse-scrolling support for 'less', 'vi', ...
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2593 from NEEDINFO to NEW.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2593 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2598 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2598 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Panel transparency glitches
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2599 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEpowersave settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2599 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDEpowersave settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2593 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2600 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2600 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Visual facelifting proposals
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2599 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , TDEpowersave settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2593 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives
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tbottu10thomas.maus@gmx.de changed the Status on bug 2599 from PATCHAVAIL to REOPENED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , TDEpowersave settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2601 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2601 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEpowersave + Logout menu should offer Suspend2Hybrid
tbottu10New TDE bug 2602 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2602 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Terminology and documentation of TDEpowersave and suspend modes
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2599 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, NEEDINFO , TDEpowersave settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer
tbottu10New TDE bug 2603 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2603 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Lockscreen blocks Suspend (detrimental TDEpowersave / Screensaver interaction)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2604 filed by xsvobo44@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2604 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Calendar events with defined location synced from Palm device with kpilot to Korganizer doesn't have location there
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2556 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2556 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [SECURITY] CVE-2015-7543: arts,tdelibs: Use of mktemp(3) allows attacker to hijack the IPC
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kb9vqfR14.0.3 is out!
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2540 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2540 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, R14.0.3 official bug list (meta bug)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2605 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2605 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , gwenview crashes on continued perusal of artwork directories
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2606 filed by thefirstscience@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2606 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kchart-trinity cannot open template
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mirdahello, can you please help? i moved my HDD from a laptop Dell D830 to a laptop Dell E6500 with debian wheezy 64 bit and TDE 3.5.13.2
mirdanow when i log in TDE session  and desktop appears, session instantly logs me out
mirdawhere could be a problem?
kb9vqfmirda: Post your ~/.xsession_errors.log
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mirdahttp://pastebin.com/09zLUCDi
mirdait is from freshly created user to test TDE, it logouts instantly too
mirdaahh i see, that Blueman can cause that
mirdamaybe
tbottu10New TDE bug 2607 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2607 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Storage Media Applet/kio: Removable Device Actions, including "mount" wrongly offered for raw disk
tbottu10New TDE bug 2608 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2608 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Multi-Head configuration (Xrandr) -- potential bugs, severe limitations and proposals for improvements
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WorkingTurkeysaw a new release announced today. very good work
mirdai removed blueman, bluetooth and bluez packages and problem still persists http://pastebin.com/2VZ0bDQW
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kb9vqfmirda: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
kb9vqfthat's your problem
kb9vqfdo you have a broken symlink?
kb9vqfall of those BadWindow errors also indicate a potential problem with your X11 installation
kb9vqf(possibly related to the libGL issue)
mirdakb9vqf: ahh thank you
mirdai will try to fix this
kb9vqfnp ;-)
mirdakb9vqf: my old laptop D830 suddenly died after heavy load in a room where was higher air temperature :( , it has a Nvidia quadro nvs 135M GPU
mirdaand working laptop E6500 has some integrated intel GPU, so i needed to uninstall nvidia drivers
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mirdakb9vqf: it works with symlinked libGL.so.1 from /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/
kb9vqfmirda: Make sense; you probably have an nVidia driver package installed
SlavekBmirda: exactly - it seems to be some confusion caused by binary driver.
mutantturkeymirda: might also try switching from noveau to the closed source driver or visa versa if you're having trouble.
mirdanvidia driver was removed using apt-get, but maybe there are some leftovers
mirdamutantturkey: that laptop has intel gpu
SlavekBmirda: purged or removed?
mirdaSlavekB: removed
mutantturkeyoh sorry, my mistake. I thought you said it had a nvidia quadro
mutantturkeyin this case the integrated drivers are quite good then
mirdamutantturkey: old laptop has quadro
mutantturkeyunderstood i re-read
SlavekBmirda: In that case, you can try if purge performs cleanup.
SlavekBafter purge you can try: aptitude reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx
mirdaSlavekB: there was installed i386 versions of packages glx-diversions and nvidia-installer-cleanup
mirdai purged them now
SlavekBglx-diversions gives hope that this package could make an order.
mirdafixed, thank you
SlavekBmirda: rßdo se stalo :)
mirdaSlavekB: please can you look at that yakuake bug reported by pitriss and package qalculate into TDE?
mirdaand how about missing kpilot in R14, is it fixed?
SlavekBmirda: This week I am unfortunately too busy.
mirdaokay
SlavekBI was therefore pleased that we have managed to release R14.0.3 last weekend.
SlavekBkpilot package is fixed in R14.0.3:
SlavekBhttp://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/commit/?h=r14.0.x&id=e9807da7
mirdai understand
mirdaand congratulations to R14.0.3
mirdaahh i missed that commit, thanks
mutantturkeySlavekB: the release is great, thank you!Q
pitrissThank you for fixed kpilot package.. Now I need to figure out that voodoo about udev rules for palm treo to make it work with my phone..
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2606 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2606 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , kchart-trinity cannot open template
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2607 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2607 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Storage Media Applet/kio: Removable Device Actions, including "mount" wrongly offered for raw disk
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pitrissHi guys, please i want to know if there is GUI for viewing/editing system variables in R14
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pitrissas I'm trying to solve some annoyance in iceweasel (opening pdf in gimp instead of kpdf) by overriding its desktop file.. but sudo update-desktop-database -v gives me: Search path is now: [/usr/local/share/applications, /usr/share/applications]
pitrissAnd I think it should also include /opt/trinity/share
pitrissmy $XDG_DATA_DIRS is correct.. it is set to: /opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
pitrissso I'm really confused
Space_Manpitriss: this might help http://paste.debian.net/412222/
pitrissSpace_Man: thanks.. deleting gimp.desktop can be temporary solution, yes.. and change setting in icewease was first what I tried.. It have two entries for pdf and both are set directly to /opt/trinity/bin/kpdf
pitrissSpace_Man: do you think i don't break anything when I set $XDG_DATA_DIRS for root? :D thats may be the cause that update-desktop-database use only default values
pitrissas root have empty $XDG_DATA_DIRS
Space_Manpitriss: "do you think i don't break anything when I set $XDG_DATA_DIRS for root? :D th" I have no idea :P
pitrissok I will try that..:D
pitrissSearch path is now: [/opt/trinity/share/applications, /usr/local/share/applications, /usr/share/applications] //hmm hmm:D let's see..:D
pitrissIt works:P
pitrissNow iceweasel can open pdf in kpdf.. I'm not freedesktop.org expert, but maybe devs can set this systemwide?
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2603 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2603 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Lockscreen blocks Suspend (detrimental TDEpowersave / Screensaver interaction)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2609 filed by assolutooccidentale@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2609 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , cannot start PyLNP
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ShadowAndrewhi
SlavekBShadowAndrew: hi, we can be something helpful?
ShadowAndrewnope, i thought i'd join the chat
ShadowAndrewi recently downloaded the desktop environment
ShadowAndrewit's pretty nice
SlavekBI use Trinity every day :)
ShadowAndrewi generally don't prefer DEs like gnome anymore because they have strange non-standard interface concepts
ShadowAndrewlike huge launcher buttons
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tbottu10assolutooccidentale@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 2609 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2609 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, cannot start PyLNP
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Resolution on bug 2609 from FIXED to NOTOURPROBLEM.
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tbottu10thomas.maus@gmx.de changed the Status on bug 2599 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEpowersave settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer
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jentronMy printscreen button is no longer pulling up ksnapshot, does anyone know how to bring it back?
jentronFigured out how to re-add the shortcut key to the menu. Not sure how it got removed
SlavekBjentron: khotkeys is active?
jentronSlavekB, it is now, but the process seems to have started at the time I assigned the menu shortcut key, not sure if it restarted or had died
jentronYeah, I think it died. Changing the settings doesn't change the time stamp on the khotkeys process
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SlavekBnemo
SlavekBehm, wrong window...
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adminqsome idea or hint how to enable a feature like "tiling snap to edge"?
SlavekBadminq: Unfortunately, I do not know what to imagine under this. In the Control Center can be set snap to the edges and snap to other windows.
adminqi dont know what you mean with Control Center, there are only icons for devices appearance... but i cannot find "snap to the edges and snap to other windows"
SlavekBSettings / Trinity Control Center / Desktop / Window Behaviour
adminqthank you but I cannot find it in q4os distribution. does the dialog have an executable? but maybe it is not in the release of q4os
SlavekBkcontrol
adminqtdecmshell [tdeinit] desktopbehavior ?
adminqtdecmshell [tdeinit] twinoptions ?
SlavekBtwinoptions
adminqi think you mean the last, but i dont find an option how the quick snap to edge with window tiling is working
adminqi want to drag a window with the mouse to some side left/right and it will be take the half of the screen space then
adminqif i move it to the top it will maximize
adminqpersonally i can do the same with some shotcuts but i search a solution for someone else who want to use the mouse for that
adminqmaybe it is a feature which is not implemented yet, but why?
SlavekB"Snap" configuration means that when you move window close to the edge is adhered, but remains in the unchanged size.
SlavekBYou know that the standard maximize button has a different behavior when you use different mouse buttons?
adminqyes i know that but that is not the behavior (windows)-users are expecting and even then it is not so much usefull as placing to windows each other
adminqfor example for comparison of content
adminqthat is done really quick by draging one window to the left the other to the right
adminqit is somewhat intuitiv, but the middle, left, right click on a icon is like hidden knowledge not intuitv
SlavekBYes, I understand. By the way, this behavior normally bothers me very, because usually I have opened multiple windows and any maximization is for me unwanted.
adminqand the maximize function involves at least to actions to solve the tiling
SlavekBBut I understand that some users may be accustomed to such behavior and want the same behavior...
adminqyeah i think many linux window managers adapted this use case in recent versions
SlavekBHowever, I fear that such configuration is not yet available in TWin.
adminqtherefore i was suprised that this will not work on trinitydesktop
adminqi am an keyboard addict, i really love to not touch the mouse. but how can twin reach the window menu? usually i pressed <ALT>+<SPACE>
SlavekBAlt+F3?
adminqno that is doing nothing here, you know each window handle has a little icon in the upper left corner if you click it some context menu for this window pops up
adminqon windows and some other window manager lxde/xfc ... i can press <ALT>+<SPACE> and it will appear
adminqthan i can use the curor keys to choose entries without shortcut
SlavekBfor me this menu is by default configuration opened by Alt + F3 :)
adminqyou installed kwin/trinity with package manager on a native debian?
adminqor do you use any specific distro?
SlavekBYes, I use Debian.
adminqi tried a german distribution q4os www.q4os.org
SlavekBYes, I've already seen some information about this distribution.
adminqdefault settings are in some /usr/share folder? perhaps i would compare them
SlavekBOn first login KPersonalizer gives choice of behavior types => Unix, Windows,...
SlavekBAnd according to that will set theme, shortcut,...
SlavekBBy the way, currently I have opened seven windows == any maximization just because I moved some window close to the edge, would make me very angry.
adminqhehe perhaps use: dcop twin KWinInterface unclutterDesktop
adminq:-) i found some nice DCOP Browser
adminqdcop twin KWinInterface cascadeDesktop
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2603 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2603 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Lockscreen blocks Suspend (detrimental TDEpowersave / Screensaver interaction)
adminqok thank you for your help, bye
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jentronDoes anyone here know anything about configuring Krusader's preview functionality? It comes way to smart out of the box to be useful
jentronI'd like it to show me everything as plain text regardless of what kind of file it actually is.
jentronEven worse, it won't show files with no extension
jentronBut eating all the tags in an xml file is pretty bad, too.
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2610 filed by tmw@autotrain.org.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2610 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Mageia trinity-filesystem package missing from R14.0.2 and R14.0.3
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2597 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2597 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, konsole mouse-scrolling support for 'less', 'vi', ...
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2611 filed by robert.adolle@free.fr.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2611 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Geogebra crashes in PCLinuxOS Trinity 64 bits
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a-865Selecting 'trinity-tdm-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64' from repository 'TDE' for installation.
a-865'tdebase-trinity' not found in package names. Trying capabilities.
a-865Resolving package dependencies...
a-865Force resolution: No
a-865Problem: nothing provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64  :-(
a-865oops, wrong error message
a-865Selecting 'trinity-tdebase-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64' from repository 'TDE' for installation.
a-865Selecting 'trinity-tdm-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64' from repository 'TDE' for installation.
a-865Resolving package dependencies...
a-865Force resolution: No
a-8652 Problems:
a-865Problem: nothing provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64
a-865Problem: nothing provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64
a-865Problem: nothing provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64  :-(
a-865Installing libHalf11 didn't help
a-865Is this a mirror problem?
a-865oops, got bit by not having Packman enabled, again :-(
SlavekBa-865: for RPMs it is better to ask a question on the mailing list
a-865SlavekB: questions I ask there that you don't answer typically do not get answers
a-865seems like there are at most 3 openSUSE users who ever post on the mailing lists
SlavekBRPM packages prepares Franšois Android that is not here at IRC.
SlavekBFranšois usually responds quickly on the mailing list.
a-865all my openSUSE 13.1 TDE installations have sound, but I can't get sound out of any of my openSUSE 42.1 TDE installations, while this 42.1 with KDE3 sound works fine
SlavekBIt sounds like a problem that should already be solved in R14.0.3.
a-865but the instant installation is fresh, 14.0.3
a-865only had IceWM before
SlavekBTest sound in Trinity Control Center does work?
SlavekBbecause it sounded to me like a bug 2392
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Fedora 21 does not fully recognize ogg files
a-865aplay would work from vtty before, but now it's silent, so there's obviously a more fundamental problem on this machine ATM
pitrissa-865: that can be problem outside TDE also.. Check sound backeds used in KDE/TDE.. they can be set up differently eg one pointing to alsa, second to pulse audio. And for me pulse audio is thing where most evil bugs with sound was born.. I had never luck to force PA to run properly. But IDK as i have alsa working perfectly
pitriss*IDC
a-865pitriss: outside TDE is exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Long as aplay doesn't work in vtty, I don't even start X.
a-865an hour ago aplay worked
a-865not it doesn't
a-865now it doesn't
pitrissisn't it simply muted in alsamixer?
a-865would be nice if alsamixer had a play test sound function
pitrissI can't remember why/when but once i had sound issues and some weird witchery reseted my alsa default volumes
pitrisslet aplay play some long track and from second tty run alsamixer and try to move sliders
a-865finally got aplay to work after disabling all at right side of alsamixer
pitrissand under root/sudo alsactl store should save this setting
a-865TCC sound system just loops "starting sound system"
pitrissand restarting alsa-utils (im not sure if this is the same as in debian) in tty goes well?
a-865in yast sound configuration, almost everything was turned way down - too may different controls, makes no sense, can't figure out which one is culprit
a-865still no sound from TCC though, but aplay works in konsole, and sound works on youtube in FF
pitrisssorry i can't help you with yast as I never used opensuse.. I have no idea how yast looks like:)
a-865aplay makes sound, yast makes sound, youtube makes sound, but TCC makes no sound
a-865tcc just loops "starting sound system"
pitrisshmm weird.. look into kcontrol how it is set up
pitrissah
SlavekBtry to disable sound server in TCC => apply and then again enable soud server => apply.
a-865I don't see any on/off switch in TCC
a-865only audio device selection is autodetect
a-865oh, right at top
a-865switching that just starts the starting sound system loop
pitrisserr kcontrol => sound system => general => enable sound system checkbox-
pitrisssorry if these names arent 100% correct as I have czech language applied
a-865must be trinity sound depends on an unfulfilled requirement
a-865broken dep
pitrisshmm at first try to switch hardware to alsa from autodetect
a-865"05:13a-865 only audio device selection is autodetect"
pitrissah
pitrissthen this is more like question for SlavekB and other devs..:) I'm only user:)
a-865I have to quit, hours past bed time
a-865pitriss: thx for trying
pitrissanytime..:)
pitrissgn:)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2612 filed by mrmazda@earthlink.net.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2612 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , no system sounds - only audio device selection in TCC is autodetect
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a-865pitriss: that was me filed 2612
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2613 filed by deloptes@yahoo.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2613 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , VCardTool::parseDateTime is broken
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2613 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2613 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , VCardTool::parseDateTime is broken
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Borg^Queenhello to all
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2614 filed by rajah987@yopmail.net.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2614 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Many apps complain: unknown color name "BACKGROUND" etc
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2615 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2615 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TCL/TK applications fail to start
tbottu10New TDE bug 2616 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2616 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , soundkonverter stalls on conversion
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2396 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2396 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDM is not capable of starting Unity
pitrisshi guys.. Can kmail pass parts of header to script when i use filter and run script?
pitrisseg time, or whole mail or so..
pitrissahh i found something in help so nevermind.. i will try trial/error method..
pitrissok so my question is.. why when i want to use %0 as script parameter (in kmail filter) I get path to nonexistant file?
pitrissah i think i got it.. that file is just temporary during execution of filter and is deleted after filter is processed.
tbottu10New TDE bug 2617 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2617 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Help entry "Report Bug/Request Enhancement"
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2613 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2613 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , VCardTool::parseDateTime is broken
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2618 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2618 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE icons: need to use TDE named icons
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2619 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2619 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , Add Klt to supported applications
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2620 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2620 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kopete: AIM support needs updating
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ybalridHi, I'm trying to build tqt but I have an error regarding libtqt-mt.so.3
ybalridin fact, while building "tquic", it doesn't find the library
ybalridThis is weird because I think it's part of tqt itself. I thought it was because I was running multiple make jobs in parallel, but apparently it doesn't change anything.
kb9vqfybalrid: Can you paste a full build log to e.g. http://paste.ee ?
ybalridI retry the build and I paste the output
pitrissHi guys, any ideas why kmail would't run my filters on imap connected mailbox automagically? When i mark that mail, and click apply all filters, then its processed without errors
ybalridokay so I'm on a VM on a tty
ybalridso I'm writing make output to a file, it will be easier
ybalridI actually just found out about this project yesterday. I was thinking "If people forked Gnome 2 to create MATE, surely a fork of the good old KDE 3 exist. And google did the rest.
ybalridkb9vqf, here's the full log of make http://avalon.ybalrid.info/build.log
ybalridkb9vqf, and here's how ./configure was run http://avalon.ybalrid.info/doconfigure
kb9vqfybalrid: That's interesting.  What operating system is this?
ybalridArchLinux
kb9vqfah, ok
ybalridit's a compleately fresh install
kb9vqfbasically it looks like an RPATH issue
ybalridinteresting
kb9vqftqtuic can't find the shared library that was previously built
ybalridThat's what I understood
kb9vqfbut since this is all inside the build directory I'd blame RPATH
kb9vqfit's been a while since I've seen one of these so bear with me :)
ybalridWhat's RPATH, an environement variable ?
ybalridif I echo $RPATH it's empty ^^"
kb9vqfobjdump -x /home/ybalrid/tde-tar/dependencies/tqt3/bin/tquic | grep RPATH
ybalrid /opt/trinity/lib
kb9vqfok, so quick hack to get things going would be to copy libtqt-mt.so.3 there
ybalridI see
ybalrido.O
kb9vqf?
ybalridthe (mostly empty) page about trinity on the ArchLinux wiki has been updated today
kb9vqfnice!
ybalridsomebody apparently wrote a PKGBUILD for it
ybalridapparently
ybalridso somebody is trying (or achived) what I was wanting to do xD
kb9vqfYeah, it looks like Debian/Ubuntu jumps through some hoops to get it built too: https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/ubuntu/maverick/dependencies/tqt3/debian/rules
kb9vqfthe rest of TDE's a bit easier to build
ybalridlike I said, I wasn't aware TDE existed until yesterday, and wanted to try it out. But since there was no packages in the repo, nor in the AURs, I needed to make it
kb9vqfsure
ybalridI can imagine
ybalridQt is still a huge chunk of code, with multiple parts in libraries
kb9vqfnowhere near as large as Qt4/5
kb9vqf;-)
ybalridI know
ybalridit keeps getting bigger and bigger
kb9vqfBTW did you see this?
kb9vqfhttps://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/How_to_Build_TDE_Core_Modules
ybalridI was following this page
kb9vqf(probably moot since you said you found an AUR, but still)
kb9vqfok
kb9vqfmight need to update it then
ybalridI think it's not yet on the AUR
ybalridit's on somebody's github
kb9vqfah, ok
kb9vqfwell if you need more help poke me or SlavekB
ybalridhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Building_with_Michael.27s_PKGBUILD_files
ybalridI gonna try that. Seems somebody is working at packaging it for Arch's Users Repository
kb9vqfsure, sounds great!
ybalridbut it's really fun since I was searching for that yesterday xD
ybalridI can't wrap my head around this
ybalridso I launched the script, gonna see if it create installable packages or not ^^"
ybalridsomebody also added a link to arch wiki here :
ybalridhttps://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Category:Documentation#Installing_from_a_Package_Manager
ybalridokay so it's currently building tqt3
ybalridokay, so it's done building, packaging, and it's installing the package for real
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SlavekBybalrid: Excellent - this is good information for me! I've already prepared the chroot environment in which I wanted to try to prepare PKGBUILDss, but time is not enough...
SlavekBSo I am glad that there is someone more experienced with Arch who is being dealt with this.
ybalridyeah but I got an error at some point, it wants xscreensaver
ybalridwich is not by default on Arch 'cause nothing is by default on arch and he forgot it on the dependencies of the package so it wasn't installed by default
ybalridI'm submiting him an issue on his github, since he's active on it he'll probably fix that quickly
ybalridgetting back on the issue, tdebase depends on libxss, without the lib, ld complains about "-lXss" ^^"
ybalridanyway, I'm happy now : http://puu.sh/nU9Mr/c4bb84ad62.jpg
pitrissybalrid: congratz:)
ybalridThe first time I touched a GNU/Linux system, it was a Kubuntu 7.10. I found a live CD somewhere and launched it in a VM...
ybalridThen I thought that KDE really changed a lot with 4, and since I knew people was maintainig Gnome2 alive (MATE) I looked if the same thing was done with KDE3 and found TDE ^^"
ybalridKonqueror still uses the old KHTML from back in the day?
ybalrid(I havent looked the changelogs yet)
pitrissyes unfortunatelly it does..
pitrisspersonally i would like to be able to use some alernative backend for konqueror.. maybe that new one from palemoon
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ybalridpitriss, yeah. No idie if it's "feasable" to use a modern version of webkit for Konqueror
ybalridmaybe it's possible to backport it (and the Qt Widget class that goes with them) from a modern version of Qt to tqt3
pitrissIdk too.. but TDE should have some browser with more recent core.. I am fan of pure accessible web, but.. today nobody thinks about web accessibility so browsers core gets more bloated with webgl and other crap
pitrissmaybe there can be added qupzilla or so with added kio_slaves.. idk I'm not coder..
ybalridWell, I know a bit about how Qt works (I started messing with it with Qt4, not 3 but whatever), and I'm a C++ developer. If I found some time I can try to make something works...
ybalridOr maybe TDE could keep the old UI but move forward to newer Qt version. This is probably a lot a work and is not practical in the short term
ybalridI see no reason why theses application couldn't keep their behaviour, look&feel but run against Qt5 for example...
ybalridBut Qt changed quite a bit from 3 to 5 ^^"
pitrissybalrid I wish it would be possible to integrate palemoon/firefox with TDE.. kwallet for passwords, somehow make kio_slaves working in it.. And I would be happy.. As palemoon seems as OK browser for me..:)
pitrissAtleast those passwords.. I found some efforts to do so.. but they were for kde4
ybalrid:/
ybalridI never used kwallet to store my passwords so...
ybalridI quite liked konqueror in KDE3. That was the thing actually. This software do all you basic needs, web, files, opening some documents even. And I think it can do FTP and stuff, so that's nice
ybalridbut you can't really browse modern web with an HTML engine that old
pitrissI'm using krusader as filebrowser/ftp/sftp client and it can also preview some files so thats not an issue for me.. but i'm really missing that kwallet integration for firefox like browsers as I do not trust to their system of password storing..
pitrisson other hand, there are few bugs that i hate more than this lack of kwallet integration:D
SlavekBon the other browsers I miss especially the cooperation with the session management.
pitrissSlavekB: yep that too, they can't shut off in nice way mostly..
SlavekBI usually have several Konqueror windows on different desktops and with different tabs.
SlavekBThanks to good cooperation with session manager is properly saved on logout and on the next login open again.
SlavekB...on the right desktops and with the right tabs.
pitrissgreat.. and this can't be solved for palemoon with some dbus/dcop calls? ofcourse it will need some addon
pitrissI stuck with palemoon right now as it is much faster than latest firefox which is painfully slow with more than 30 tabs opened
mirdahi, I would appreciate that kwallet integration in firefox like browser too
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2621 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] Libre.fm support in Amarok
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ZenWalkerhi
ZenWalkerwhy trinity it isnt on official debian packages?
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pitrissZenWalker: I'm not sure... ..but maybe because of lack of debian package maintainers who would like to adopt trinity
SlavekBZenWalker: Trinity is installed in /opt/trinity, because otherwise it could cause conflicts with programs ported to newer versions of KDE.
SlavekBThere would be a possibility "rename completely everything," but Trinity is orders of magnitude greater than, for example MATE, so it would require considerable effort.
SlavekBZenWalker: But I dare say that Trinity has a very good support for Debian / Ubuntu packages.
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CyberBotXHi there. I was wondering, I saw in the last news post about R14.0.3 that FreeBSD support was being worked on. May I ask how that is going and what can be done to help it out? I had actually attempted making a FreeBSD port of TDE but it was a bit too overwhelming of an undertaking at the time I was doing it, and I also found some things were not working quite as well as they did in
CyberBotXKDE 3.5.
kb9vqfCyberBotX: I'm not directly involved in the FreeBSD port, maybe one of our other developers will respond with more information :)
CyberBotXAlrighty. I'll be going to bed soon (I have work in the morning, sadly), but I'll keep in here just in case.
kb9vqfYeah, that would be a good idea
kb9vqfSlavekB IIRC knows more about that port status than I do right now
CyberBotXI'd been using KDE 3.5 for so long and I've been trying to use KDE4 on a new machine I put together, but some of the weirdness of KDE4 is making me want to look at TDE instead of trying to continue to locally maintain old KDE 3.5 ports.
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StrangelvHello
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SlavekBCyberBotX: on FreeBSD is one major problem - there was something wrong with threads - see bug 2462
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2462 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [FreeBSD] Crash in threads tdm, kdesktop,...
SlavekBCyberBotX: on tde-packaging git repository you can see what ports are already prepared: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/freebsd?h=r14.0.x
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ZenWalkerSlavekB: my question is because mate (fork gnome 2) is on official debian packages, but trinity not yet :)
SlavekBZenWalker: Yes, I understand. Mate carried out many renaming - for them it was a little easier task - it's not so much size of the source code, it's not such a number of applications and have a more active developers.
SlavekBThis made it possible to achieve integration into the distributions.
SlavekBTrinity have a small number of developers and, therefore, focuses on improving the code instead of renaming.
ZenWalkeraha, thanks
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SlavekBA long time ago, I saw statistics that Mate has about 2 million lines of code, while Trinity 12 millions.
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mirdahello and happy easters lately:)
mirdaZenWalker: TDE has many bundled applications, Kontact, KOrganizer, Konqueror, Krusader, Kpilot, ...
mirdaZenWalker: how many applications are part of Gnome2 (MATE)?
mirdai think much less
StrangelvWould really help to find a sponsor with even semi-deep pockets
StrangelvLast I checked many of our bundled applications were superior to their KDE 4+ equivalents.  Some rather significantly superior
StrangelvWith enough work they could be reintroduced to KDE
Strangelv"and yes, getting into Debian would be a very good thing
mirdai have no problem with external repository, i rather prefer bugfixes
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StrangelvBugfixes, improvements necessatated by the passage of time, improved reputation and userbase size
StrangelvFor example, support for the HTML 5 doctype in Quanta Plus
StrangelvRight now no one has time for that, and while I personally avoid HTML 5 tags to the greatest extent possible, not having the option doesn't help attract new users
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tbottu10ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net changed the Status on bug 364 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=364 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED , kitchensync-kde3 install fails
tbottu10ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net changed the Status on bug 2406 from RESOLVED WORKSFORME to REOPENED ---.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2406 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED , Broken dependencies on Debian Jessie
tbottu10ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net changed the Status on bug 364 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2622 filed by james@nurealm.net.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2622 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tqt3 and tqtinterface - /etc/profile.d/tqt3.sh and trinity.sh conflict with other Qt-based DE's
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2623 filed by james@nurealm.net.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2623 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdebindings - ld: cannot find -ltqt-mt, ruby 2.2 support fails, and no disable ruby configure switch
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Strangelv#2622 doesn't look good
SlavekBStrangelv: I believe that these files are not included in the source code == apparently are created specifically for Arch Linux.
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2622 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2622 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tqt3 and tqtinterface - /etc/profile.d/tqt3.sh and trinity.sh conflict with other Qt-based DE's
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2624 filed by dmaglio@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2624 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Amarok: missing engine
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StrangelvDoes anyone know our current status with running LibreOffice.  Things almost display reliably now, but it sends XOrg CPU usage to maximum and can be impressively slow to respond.
SlavekBStrangelv: High load I noticing in cases when something is copied to the clipboard from Calc.
StrangelvNoted.  So that's why it's less ofa  problem when I needed to go back and reopen.  I've not copied and pasted anything this time
StrangelvDo we have any other known situations with major applications like this?
StrangelvUnrelaned question: is there a way to get a wider selection of DPI settings?
StrangelvIdeally an arbitrary value with a large possible range
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2623 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2623 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tdebindings - ld: cannot find -ltqt-mt, ruby 2.2 support fails, and no disable ruby configure switch
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2623 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2623 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , tdebindings - ld: cannot find -ltqt-mt, ruby 2.2 support fails, and no disable ruby configure switch
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SlavekBFat-Zer: Please, is there any conclusion regarding the proposed patch in http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::15047 ?
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kb9vqfpitriss: Commercial power failure
kb9vqfSpace_Man: ^^
kb9vqftook out the entire area including Internet links
pitrissnp.. it happens sometimes:)
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2613 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2613 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, VCardTool::parseDateTime is broken
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easyAnalysthi every1
easyAnalystthe ubuntu release of TDE
easyAnalyst(http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/release/R14.0.3/tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso)
easyAnalystis corrupted...
easyAnalysti downloaded several times from several computers and ISP and nothing
easyAnalystall corrupted
SlavekBeasyAnalyst: checksum is ok?
easyAnalystSlavekB, ill check
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pitrissAbout that ubuntu Image. I was able to download it from http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/release/R14.0.3/tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso and checksum is OK. But Vurtualbox 4.3 refuses to open this image.. Could not get the storage format of the medium '/PATH/tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso' (VERR_NOT_SUPPORTED).
pitrissI have no physical medium to burn this image there, so I can't help with further testing:(
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SlavekBpitriss: you can try to mount it using option -oloop
pitrissyep i will try
pitrissSlavekB: yep, mounting via -o loop is working fine..
SlavekBso it looks like a different problem than the corrupted iso file.
pitrissyeah, most probably..
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SlavekBI tried to download and run manually in KVM:
SlavekBkvm -m 512 -cdrom tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso -vga std
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SlavekBIt is work normally, including the expected problem during shutdown.
SlavekB$ file tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso
SlavekBtde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso: # ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data ''Ubuntu Trusty TDE amd64'       ' (bootable)
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2625 filed by deloptes@yahoo.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdeabc/vcardparser/vcardparser.cpp accepted encoding
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2626 filed by m.alonso1970@live.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2626 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , q4os keyboard
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a-865is there a simple edit I can make with mc somewhere in /etc/ to switch from lightdm to tdm-trinity in Xenial?
SlavekBa-865: you can try: dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
a-865oops, didn't need to. Apt asked when installing tdm-trinity which I wanted.
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a-86514.0.4 on fresh 16.04b is working :-)
SlavekBa-865: great, thank you for testing it!
a-865SlavekB: thank you for providing it!!!
a-865using modeset X driver instead of nouveau
a-865might not be OK
a-865logins on vttys are all missing
a-865apparently some wierd boot processes not finishing are preventing gettys from starting
a-865"Daily Apt Activities", whatever those are
a-865If I boot to multi-user instead, I get gettys
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a-865 /etc/X11/default-display-manager contains /opt/trinity/bin/tdm, which works to make TDM the greeter. What makes TDE the default session for startx?
a-865update-alternatives --config x-session-manger works, but how? what does it change?
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pitrissHi guys, does someone use kmail filters on imap mailbox?
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2627 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TMenu occaisionally quits working
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MarkBilkHi!  please recommend the easiest up-to-date/rolling well-supported binary non-systemd distro that works with TDE.
MarkBilkdoes TDE work with over pclinuxos or void linux?
MarkBilkdoes TDE work with pclinuxos or void linux?
pitrissIdk I'm using debian wheezy
kb9vqfMarkBilk: No idea.  We mainly target the mainstream distros, and Arch has IIRC AFAIK
kb9vqf*has systemd
SlavekBMarkBilk: Exe GNU/Linux is based on Devuan (Debian without systemd) and primary desktop environment is Trinity.
SlavekBMarkBilk: Trinity on PCLinuxOS is supported - see rpm packages http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/
MarkBilkthanks!  PCLinuxOS has a kde version from march 2016 and "over 12,000 rpm software packages"
MarkBilkso in PCLinuxOS, do i just point Synaptic to http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64/ and tell it to install everything, and then restart?
SlavekBhttps://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/PCLinuxOSInstall
MarkBilksuper thanks!
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nemilenhello
nemilenWhether installing gentoo where possible?
nemilenDoes TDE installation is possible in gentoo?
nemilensorry for my eng
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nemilenanybody here/
nemilen?
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MarkBilkSlavekB: check this out: http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com/
MarkBilkISOs of PCLinuxOS with TDE as the desktop!
SlavekBYes, this ISO uses RPM packages which I referred.
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Fat-ZerSlavekB: hi, here?
SlavekBYes, right now I was looking at your patch.
Fat-ZerSlavekB: thanks
SlavekBIt is absolutely correct!
SlavekBI think I'll push the patch very soon.
Fat-Zerare you going to push it soon, no hurry just wondering...
Fat-Zeroh)))
SlavekBI think that currently I have no other patches for common admin and cmake modules that would be good push together.
Fat-Zeryeah, thanks... just haven't read your message before pushing enter =))
SlavekBI wanted to test in the near future build current R14.0.4~pre on FreeBSD where this patch will be very important :)
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SlavekBnemilen: as far as I know, gentoo ebuilds are in good condition.
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2628 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2628 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS on libr because missing link to libdl
tbottu10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2628 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL.
SlavekBnemilen: some older overlays that were available are not maintaned.
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nemilenSlavekB I have found a way to install TDE ;)
Fat-Zernemilen: aren't you Vilen?
nemilenyes
nemilen;)
Fat-Zeroh)
nemilen&#1085;&#1077;&#1086;&#1078;&#1080;&#1076;&#1072;&#1085;&#1085;&#1086;)
nemilenFat-Zer &#1085;&#1080;&#1095;&#1077;&#1075;&#1086; &#1095;&#1090;&#1086; &#1090;&#1091;&#1090; &#1087;&#1086; &#1088;&#1091;&#1089;&#1089;&#1082;&#1080; &#1087;&#1080;&#1096;&#1091; ? )
Fat-Zernemilen: &#1076;&#1091;&#1084;&#1072;&#1102; &#1085;&#1080;&#1095;&#1077;&#1075;&#1086;, &#1085;&#1086; &#1083;&#1091;&#1095;&#1096;&#1077; &#1074; &#1083;&#1080;&#1095;&#1082;&#1091;...
Fat-ZerSlavekB: I wouldn't say whey are in _good_ condinion... the most I can estimate it is "mostly working"
SlavekBOh, yeah, I wanted to write: "are not in good condition", but the key word I forgot :)
Fat-Zeryep, that sounds more like a truth...
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2628 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2628 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: FTBFS on libr because missing link to libdl
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2629 filed by dvadell@clustering.com.ar.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Update in the Nightly_Builds wikip age
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2626 from NEW --- to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2626 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, q4os keyboard
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2629 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Update in the Nightly_Builds wikip age
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2625 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tdeabc/vcardparser/vcardparser.cpp accepted encoding
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2630 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2630 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add "What's new" page for next minor release R14.1.0
tbottu10New TDE bug 2631 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2631 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Tastymenu enhancement
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2378 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2378 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , eliminate displayed redundance when only one control module is displayed
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2632 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEPowersave: ESC functionality in "inactivity" dialog
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2632 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , TDEPowersave: ESC functionality in "inactivity" dialog
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2625 from NEEDINFO to NEW.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdeabc/vcardparser/vcardparser.cpp accepted encoding
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2633 filed by dvadell@clustering.com.ar.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Unresolved dependencies - Ubuntu 16.04 beta 2 + Preliminary Stable Builds
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tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2633 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , Unresolved dependencies - Ubuntu 16.04 beta 2 + Preliminary Stable Builds
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tbottu10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2628 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2628 normal, P5, ---, albator78, REOPENED , Build issue: FTBFS on libr because missing link to libdl
tbottu10New TDE bug 2634 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2634 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS because missing link to libcrypto
tbottu10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2634 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2634 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: FTBFS because missing link to libcrypto
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2635 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2635 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS in libtdeldap when using mit-krb5 library
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tbottu10dvadell@clustering.com.ar changed the Status on bug 2633 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Unresolved dependencies - Ubuntu 16.04 beta 2 + Preliminary Stable Builds
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2474 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2474 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KPlayer port from kde3 to tde
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1955 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1955 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Add KXMLEditor to repository
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2029 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2029 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, qalculate-kde KDE headers in installation prefix, can you package Qalcuate! to Trinity?
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2260 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2260 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Tasty Menu
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2086 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2086 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Request for packaging: style ia-ora
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mirdahello
mirdaSlavekB: thank you very much for qalculate package
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2636 filed by stara@live.se.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2636 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , network
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milismanhi guys
milismani want to ask how much ram use trinity at start
milismani am asking less value
SlavekBmilisman: It might interest you https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops-part-2/
milismanyes i have already reading it :)
milismanactually i want to ask you that ypu are using it
milismanhow much can we see less value
milismanSlavekB which distro on you are running trinity?
SlavekBI currently use Debian Wheezy
milismanhow much you see
milismanat start
SlavekBI have many things running right at the start of session - Icewease, Amarok, KMail,...
milismani see
SlavekBso the question is how to define "at start"
Fat-Zer_SlavekB: hi, sorry for nagging about the patch issue, but how more it will take to build the packages?
milismani mean no process will run at start
milismanonly desktop manager will run
SlavekBFat-Zer_: building packages has been completed! I will push the patch very soon.
Fat-Zer_ok... thanks in advance...
Fat-Zer_milisman: I can't remember my RAM usage, but in general it will be comfortable enough to use with &#8805;512M RAM and it will be nearly impossible with <192M
milismanhttps://l3net.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/cmp-all4.png
milismani found this
milismanbut i think it consumes more than this picture
Fat-Zer_milisman: current usage of main components on my system:
Fat-Zer_ 24 hosts allow = 127.0.0.1 192.168.0.0/24
Fat-Zer_ 25 hosts deny = 0.0.0.0/0
Fat-Zer_ps h -o rss,cmd -C kded,twin,konqueror,kdesktop,kicker | awk '{print $1/1024"M\t"$2;}' | wgetpaste
Fat-Zer_Your paste can be seen here: https://bpaste.net/show/cf0105fc8cf4
milismangood
milismanexcept konqueror it consumes 127mb
milismani think trinity is close xfce4 about ram using
milismanok,i want to try it my own distro how can i pratically compile it
milismani want to just compile core
milismani read this:
milismanhttps://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/How_to_Build_TDE_Core_Modules
milismanbut a bit i messed
milismanhttps://bpaste.net/show/1ad9c1578946
milismanthese are enough for a cre?
milismancore*
Fat-Zer_yes, but qca and avahi are optional...
milismanok
milismanlet me a try
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2637 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2637 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , "konsole": color and bold attributes not handled orthogonally
tbottu10New TDE bug 2638 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2638 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , screen saver & TDEpowersave ignore certain user time settings
tbottu10New TDE bug 2639 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , screen-saver unlock dialog freezing GUI?
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2639 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , screen-saver unlock dialog freezing GUI?
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a-865nothing provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64  (wants to remove more than 20 packages. :-(
a-865Oh, looks like yet another Packman dep
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tbottu10thomas.maus@gmx.de changed the Status on bug 2639 from NEEDINFO to NEW.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , screen-saver unlock dialog freezing GUI?
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a-86514.0.3 on Jessie is crashing on startup due to a segfault somewhere that I cannot tell :-(
a-865in .xsession-errors segfault follows [starttde] TDEDIRS:
Fat-Zer_a-865: are you running tde from terminal or from a dm?
a-865Intel GMA45
a-865crashes either way
a-865usually I use startx, but trinity-tdm same result
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2378 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2378 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, eliminate displayed redundance when only one control module is displayed
a-865dmesg says pipe state doesn't match
a-865that's following a long message about check_crtc_state
Fat-Zer_you may increase the log verbosity replacing starttde with "/bin/sh -x /path/to/starttde"
Fat-Zer_this will likely tell the exact place of failure
a-865replace how? I'm simply executing startx with no options.
Fat-Zer_startx simply executes content of ~/.xinitrc isn't it?
a-865.xinitrc does not exist
Fat-Zer_ /etc/<something>/xinitrc ?
a-865 /etc/Xsession.d/ I think
a-865 /etc/xinit/xinitrc
Fat-Zer_or you may still just create a user specific file...
Fat-Zer_on gentoo it's /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.... not sure about debian...
a-865 /etc/xinit/xinitrc only contains . /etc/X11/Xsession
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2632 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEPowersave: ESC functionality in "inactivity" dialog
a-865entire .xsession-errors: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/xsession-errors-jessie-gx780
Fat-Zer_403
a-865just fixed that
a-865tail of /var/log/kern.log http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/dmsgtail.gx780-jessie
a-865I would use Xorg's built-in modeset driver it Jessie wasn't using that antique server 1.16.4
a-865somehow I think this Jessie is stuck on 8.0 instead of 8.4
a-865os-release just says 8
Fat-Zer_a-865: isn't this log is an hour old?
a-865no, just minutes
a-865http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/
Fat-Zer_try just run "startx /bin/sh -x /path/to/starttde >/tmp/starttde-full.log 2>&1"
Fat-Zer_and upload /tmp/starttde-full.log
a-865http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/starttde-fulllog.txt
SlavekBa-865: you have installed kgtk-qt3?
Fat-Zer_yes he is...
SlavekBplease, purge this package
Fat-Zer_is it causes segfaults?
SlavekBIt is very common cause of such crashes
a-865SlavekB: purging fixed it. :-)
Fat-Zer_SlavekB: by the word, there is a typo in starttde around line 584: TGTK_NSPR_PRELOAD and KGTK_NSPR_PRELOAD mess...
kb9vqfFixing kgtk-qt3 is on a to-do list if I ever get time to work on TDE again
kb9vqfI have had plans for a proper third-party theming framework for some time
SlavekBplease fill an bug report about starttde
Fat-Zer_I'm gotta go right now.... I'll fill if I won't forget...
a-865SlavekB: who is that request directed to?
a-865we don't need 3
a-865crashing was happening here even using tdm
a-865on exit from the session, there's still a call trace left on the vtty
Fat-Zer_just undo everything I've told you... gl;hf; bye...
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a-865hmmm, I already filed http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2477 about it 2 months ago
tbottu04Bug 2477: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tde session won't run if kgtk-qt3-trinity is installed in jessie
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2638 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2638 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , screen saver & TDEpowersave ignore certain user time settings
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2637 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2637 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , "konsole": color and bold attributes not handled orthogonally
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2541 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2541 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , ark rar improvements: fix support with rar utilities v5.x and improve listing of folders
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SlavekBmirda: By the way, if you want to test qalculate now - with the Preliminary Stable Builds, you can add next to deps-r14 and main-r14 new test source extra-r14.
mirdaSlavekB: oki, thank you for info, i will test it
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2640 filed by matrixx-trinity@underald.net.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2640 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Amarok doesn't play without pulseaudio, but no dependency on it
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Fat-Zerhi, have anybody tried to mount an ntfs volume with TDE on a udisks2 distro ever?
Fat-ZerOFC, assuming udevil is unavaliable...
Fat-Zerok, not ever, but over last 2 years?
tbottu10New TDE bug 2641 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2641 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , typo in starttde script
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2541 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2541 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, ark rar improvements: fix support with rar utilities v5.x and improve listing of folders
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2641 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2641 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, typo in starttde script
tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2412 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2412 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDEpowersave: Suspends to RAM and then to disk
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2472 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2472 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , OTR icon missing in kopete message window
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2601 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2601 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , TDEpowersave + Logout menu should offer Suspend2Hybrid
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Fat-Zercould anybody confirm that mount of ntfs volumes with udisks2 is broken?
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2642 filed by contact@librepc.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2642 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Mageia5 repos are not functionals with urpmi.addmedia --distrib
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ShadowAndrewadept manager crashes on startup, any way to fix?
Fat-Zer_what is adept manager?
Fat-Zer_oh... apt stuff... I'm dunno...
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Space_Manis the adept manager an old package manager that now crashes a lot
Space_Manand in the old days used to crash only a bit
pitrisslol thats great description:D
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ShadowAndrewi am trying out the konqueror web browser but nothing is rendering properly
ShadowAndrewany ideas why?
Space_Manit is very old and quite out of date
ShadowAndrewno plans on updating it im guessing?
Space_Manperhaps if somebody offers to do it :P
ShadowAndrewbecause i do like how its integrated with all the tde apps
ShadowAndrewwith websites that work
ShadowAndrewwhen i open a video it starts streaming in kaffine, etc
ShadowAndrewwell i would like to work on it but i can't code...
Space_ManI have the same problem
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ShadowAndrewfirefox just doesn't seem to integrate well with tde
ShadowAndrewi tried to redirect rss subscriptions to akregator but it doesn't wanna work :/
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ShadowAndrewthere also doesn't seem to be any QT based browsers with up to date browser engines.... :/
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a-865What's the URI for the pre-release 14.0.4? It's missing from https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall :-(
a-865I can never find Slavek's repo when I want it :-(
a-865found it: http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb
tbottu10New TDE bug 2643 filed by jayaramanmani@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2643 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Adept keep crashing
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* a-865 is installing TDE in stretch
a-865has the infocenter not been built for 14.0.4?
a-865NVM, I had a typo :-p
grythis is not packaged for debian?
gryand hi, I saw you at moz network linux chan for years but not talking :)
a-865not much talkin goes on there ever
a-865ppl come and ask question, then don't stick around for answer
SlavekBa-865: infocenter is integrated into control center.
a-865right, but my typo made me question that
a-865tdecmchell doesn't work
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Fat-Zer_How to debug trinity apps with gdb?
Fat-Zer_whenever I run "gdb ark"
Fat-Zer_it does some dcop stuff and exits, when actual app seams to be run by tded, does anybody knows a way to overcome that?
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a-865Fat-Zer_: start ark first, then in Konsole do 'gdb ark <pidofark>'
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Fat-Zer_a-865: I'm debugging a crash on start...
Fat-Zer_ok... actually crash is upon oppening a file... that's not very convinient, but works...
Fat-Zer_thanks
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2644 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2644 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ark: segfault and some more issues in recent rar engine
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tbottu10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 2644 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2644 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL , ark: segfault and some more issues in recent rar engine
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2645 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2645 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tqtinterface FTBFS if tqt3 was build without opengl and opengl is not present on system
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2645 from NEW to NEEDINFO.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2645 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tqtinterface FTBFS if tqt3 was build without opengl and opengl is not present on system
Fat-Zer_SlavekB: hi, haven't understood your question on the bug...
SlavekBcan you check file tqt-mt.pc and variable qt_config?
SlavekBThis variable should contain information on how tqt3 was built.
SlavekBIt might be a clue as to whether tqtinterface can or can not build with opengl.
Fat-Zer_https://bpaste.net/show/7e39ea57603d
Fat-Zer_attached to the bug as well
Fat-Zer_I may attach both build logs if you wish
SlavekBThank you - it is so - opengl is not referenced in pkg-config file if tqt3 was not built with opengl.
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Fat-ZerSlavekB: hi, got some time to push a patch a right now?
Fat-Zerhttps://bpaste.net/show/33b5e2f9bfee
Fat-Zerit fixes splited build of tdegames
Fat-Zer*with cmake
SlavekBFat-Zer: ok, will be pushed soon.
Fat-Zerthanks in advance... please notice me here then ready...
Fat-Zer*when
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SlavekBFat-Zer: patch was pushed
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Fat-ZerSlavekB: hi, about previous patch: there were a typo in kjumpingcube
Fat-Zerhere is a fix: https://bpaste.net/show/169e1954db7f
SlavekBFat-Zer: second patch pushed
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2646 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2646 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEFileReplace: fix order of entries
tbottu10New TDE bug 2647 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2647 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Central setting for screen locking and hiding is needed
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2648 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2648 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tqt3: add sort options for TQListView
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2649 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2649 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , No error message is displayed if hibernation fails
tbottu10New TDE bug 2650 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2650 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEPowersave display undimm problem.
Fat-Zer_could anybody test if ksokoban crashes on start?
Fat-Zer_backtrace is: https://bpaste.net/show/3baaade4b4bf
SlavekBFat-Zer_: Yes - I tried ksokoban in 14.0.4~pre on Debian Wheezy and also crashes on start!
Fat-Zer_is it was built with cmake?
SlavekByes, with cmake
SlavekBLater I would try to rework a test machine to R14.0.3 and try there.
Fat-Zer_ok... I'm building with autotools right now to try if the crash will go...
Fat-Zer_builded with autotools version works, so it's a cmake issue...
Fat-Zer_I found the problem: with cmake ksokoban compresses it's levels with zlib, support for witch seams to be broken...
Fat-Zer_SlavekB: patch to fix the ksokoban: https://bpaste.net/show/bba4f6573a3c
SlavekBFat-Zer_: Thank you, will be pushed soon.
Fat-Zer_np
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Fat-Zer_SlavekB: what drive mount backend is used on your distro, if it's udisks:2, than could you confirm that ntfs volume mount is broken?
SlavekBon my Debian Wheezy I have udisks.
SlavekBI try to find time during the weekend to try it on my test notebook with Debian Jessie.
Fat-Zer_ok, thanks in advance...
SlavekBFat-Zer_: I found here my test disk with many versions of Ubuntu. I tried Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid) - which has udisks2. With USB disks with NTFS works as it should.
Fat-Zer_hm...
Fat-Zer_what exactly version of udisks it provides?
Fat-Zer_SlavekB: according to http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/vivid/universe/base/udisks it has udisks-1
Fat-Zer_*not an official site
SlavekBoops, I've turned off the machine. I'll look later...
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SlavekBFat-Zer_: udisk2 - 2.1.5-1
Fat-Zer_SlavekB: and nor udevil nor udisks 1 are installed, right?
SlavekBonly udisks2
Fat-Zer_hm... strange...
Fat-Zer_SlavekB: what locale do you have?
SlavekBcs_CZ.UTF-8 :)
Fat-Zer_isn't your flashdrive listed on the fstab?
SlavekBno
Fat-Zer_I, personally recieve this error on ntfs mount: http://itmages.com/image/view/4237480/992f36d5
SlavekByou have installed ntfs-3g + fuse?
Fat-Zer_sure
Fat-Zer_it's seems to me quite obvious from the sources why it happens, but I damn can't understand why it works for you
Fat-Zer_and everybody else...
Fat-Zer_the thing is udidks expects "ntfs" rather than ntfs-3g as a file system type...
SlavekBSorry, I have to go away now. I'll be back in a few hours.
Fat-Zer_ok
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2601 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2601 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEpowersave + Logout menu should offer Suspend2Hybrid
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2602 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2602 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Terminology and documentation of TDEpowersave and suspend modes
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tbottu10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 71 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=71 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , kde panel hiding - raise responds too slowly or sometimes not at all
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tbottu10New TDE bug 2651 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2651 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS on tdelibs with older libcryptsetup
tbottu10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2651 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL.
tbottu10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2651 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2651 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: FTBFS on tdelibs with older libcryptsetup
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a-865I'd like to install TDE in antiX16, which is Jessie-based. I keep getting errors from apt trying to install it:
a-865sh: 1: /usr/local/lib/desktop-menu/desktop-menu-apt-update: not found
a-865E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Pre-Invoke '/usr/local/lib/desktop-menu/desktop-menu-apt-update set'
a-865E: Sub-process returned an error code
a-865Anyone know if this is fixable, and how?
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pitrissa-865: hm and did you tried to create script /usr/local/lib/desktop-menu/desktop-menu-apt-update with just exit 0 in it?
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a-865pitriss: with what permissions?
a-865644 doesn't work
a-865rw-r--r-- doesn't work
pitrissyou need to make it executable..
pitrissa-865: chmod +x /usr/local/lib/desktop-menu/desktop-menu-apt-update
pitrissa-865: and maybe try to put #
pitrisserr
pitriss#!/bin/sh
pitrisson top of that file to specify interpreter
pitrissit really should work because your instalation complains only that there is no such script.:)
a-865sh: 1: /usr/local/lib/desktop-session/desktop-session-slim-update.sh: not found
a-865E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Pre-Invoke '/usr/local/lib/desktop-session/desktop-session-slim-update.sh --check-diff=set '
a-865E: Sub-process returned an error code
a-865I get the original message even trying to install aptitude
pitrissSorry I don't know antix.. It looks like they removed some standard debian scripts.. you can try to symlink all missing scripts to your first replacement you created already there is still chance it will work properly :)
a-865as this is a beta antiX, maybe I hit a bug
a-865I even get that message from apt upgrade :-(
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tbottu10dmaglio@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 2624 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED.
tbottu04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2624 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Amarok: missing engine
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a-865anyone have any idea why in Stretch installing kaffeine-trinity installs hdparm and powermgmt-base?
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