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| kb9vqf | New logs at http://trinitydesktop.org/irc/logs_current.html |
| kb9vqf | formatting is cleaner/easier to read |
| kb9vqf | And best of all, tbottu shouldn't drop off the channel every week like before :) |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 69 from system to ubuntu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=69 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, UNCONFIRMED, Jaunty AMD64 LiveCD Boot Failure |
| MutantTurkey | nice it works. |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: so we are all set for the whole bugwatch right? |
| kb9vqf | I believe so... |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: lets hope i can clone this then... |
| MutantTurkey | I rebooted my connection, still seems to cut out pretty fast |
| kb9vqf | There are a lot of files there |
| kb9vqf | I have noticed similar behaviour on my cell phone link as well |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm it seemed that if i do ctrl+z (i forget what that does, freeze the program in midair i think) and then do fg it will start working agian. |
| kb9vqf | (granted not with git, but just with normal downloads) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: yes, this is my cell connection :P |
| MutantTurkey | could i just download the raw files? |
| MutantTurkey | clone onto my server, then wget the files :P |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: your connection also seems slow |
| kb9vqf | I don't know if that will work |
| MutantTurkey | i'll try it nonetheless. |
| kb9vqf | would it be easier to send over the files you want uploaded in a tar file and I will commit them? |
| MutantTurkey | lets see if this works then do that. |
| kb9vqf | my connection may very well be slow :-P |
| MutantTurkey | this is working so far. |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay this is not going to work |
| MutantTurkey | I will tar it up. |
| MutantTurkey | I do not have a way to email you however. |
| MutantTurkey | can I pm you a link to my website of the tarball? |
| kb9vqf | yews |
| kb9vqf | *yes |
| MutantTurkey | actually no idea how i can do that D: |
| kb9vqf | well, it can wait I suppose |
| MutantTurkey | because I am tethered i don't know my ip hrm hold up |
| kb9vqf | when will you be on a better connection? |
| MutantTurkey | tuesday |
| kb9vqf | it can wait until then I would think :) |
| MutantTurkey | ok :{ |
| MutantTurkey | actually i'll see what i can do |
| kb9vqf | it's up to you |
| MutantTurkey | no go. |
| MutantTurkey | I don't have any way to upload it. |
| kb9vqf | It's OK |
| kb9vqf | don't waste your time |
| kb9vqf | I'll see you on Tuesday :) |
| MutantTurkey | wait i think i have it |
| MutantTurkey | nevermind again. |
| kb9vqf | Like I said don't waste your time |
| kb9vqf | Here's an idea |
| kb9vqf | Do you think we could prioritize the bugs by difficulty? |
| kb9vqf | I know the difficulty isn't set in stone, but simple malfunctions could probably be fixed first |
| kb9vqf | (apparently simple that is) |
| kb9vqf | if you want to go through the bugtracker and start making an Etherpad list of simple bugs I would appreciate it |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm wait we can another boolean reight? |
| MutantTurkey | i'll see what i can do |
| kb9vqf | well I was just thinking a separate list on the Etherpad |
| MutantTurkey | okay. |
| MutantTurkey | we started that stuff |
| kb9vqf | ordered by estimated difficulty, simplest ones on top |
| MutantTurkey | okay. |
| kb9vqf | I know and then it disappeared :( |
| kb9vqf | But then again I remember it being pretty badly incomplete... |
| MutantTurkey | i was starting a small list on the etherpad |
| kb9vqf | I'll just say for the record that the first Etherpad installation was a test |
| kb9vqf | I never expected it to be as good a tool as it was |
| kb9vqf | so I wasn't very careful with it |
| MutantTurkey | it really is |
| MutantTurkey | okay i got my friend to email me the thing |
| MutantTurkey | so i am shooting it to you |
| kb9vqf | ok, thanks |
| MutantTurkey | titled thingy |
| MutantTurkey | my friend didn't understand it at all |
| kb9vqf | got it |
| kb9vqf | I'll throw it up on GIT |
| MutantTurkey | great thanks |
| MutantTurkey | as of right now i think it fails |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: That's OK; before you work on it more please check it out from GIT and keep updating it in GIT as you fix it :) |
| kb9vqf | Also, about the arch/master/src directory |
| kb9vqf | why are there tarballs in there? |
| MutantTurkey | no idea what that is... |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| kb9vqf | can I just delete it? |
| MutantTurkey | sure |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | okay, going to look through bugs. |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Uploaded |
| kb9vqf | want the link? |
| MutantTurkey | got it |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | great |
| MutantTurkey | easy bugs... hrm |
| MutantTurkey | can't seem to find any hah |
| MutantTurkey | so is the etherpad good to go for usage? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | it is stable |
| MutantTurkey | passwords and such are the same? |
| kb9vqf | and will be subject to scheduled backup now |
| kb9vqf | I sent new invitations to you and Xu_R |
| kb9vqf | oh wait, you don't have Email :-P |
| MutantTurkey | yeah :P |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | I don't know how to force it |
| MutantTurkey | i might be able to do it on my phone |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: are easy bugs also enhancements? |
| MutantTurkey | there are some ones i see that are probably pretty simple |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 411 from kdelibs to ubuntu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=411 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdelibs4c2a-trinity "provides" missing to kdelibs4c2a |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 376 from system to ubuntu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=376 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Unable to install 10.10 over 9.04 |
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| kb9vqf | sorry, webirc froze up on me again |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: i don't really see that many "easy easy" ones |
| MutantTurkey | no kvirc? |
| kb9vqf | if an enhancement is easy then feel free to add it |
| kb9vqf | maybe the enhancements should be on a separate list |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| kb9vqf | with that list being ordered as well from easy to hard |
| MutantTurkey | also i think i am going to mark some more important |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | maybe another list ordered by importance |
| kb9vqf | bugzilla can do that |
| MutantTurkey | i think some of those ubuntu are pretty critical |
| kb9vqf | so fix the priority fields I guess :) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| kb9vqf | I think all of the bugs are set to medium priority ATM |
| kb9vqf | kvirc is in Trinity |
| kb9vqf | must be an old bug |
| MutantTurkey | no i meant, why are you using the webchat? |
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| kb9vqf | I'm on a different computer right now |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: alright bud. I am so tired i am unproductive. I'll talk to you tuesday when my internet is bacvk |
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| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: I'm on a different computer right now, so I don't have Konversation available |
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| Space_Man | kb9vqf: is your power back? |
| kb9vqf | YES! |
| kb9vqf | As luck would have it the utility put us on the top of the list for restoration |
| kb9vqf | (or pretty near it) |
| kb9vqf | over 800,000 perople still are without power |
| kb9vqf | *people |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R|ZNC: Power's back way ahead of schedule |
| kb9vqf | There is still a chance that portions of the electric grid could fail as power is restored to other customers AFAIK |
| kb9vqf | so if I drop back offline please don't be alarmed |
| kb9vqf | For anyone interested in a synopsis of the unusually strong weather at the Trinity web services location here's a graphic from a local TV station |
| kb9vqf | http://blog.chicagoweathercenter.com/FEATGRAPH071211.jpg |
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| Borg^Queen | gn |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: having more connectivity issues? |
| MutantTurkey | also anon.kde.org sucks. |
| kb9vqf | Internet here is absolutely horrid |
| kb9vqf | I got a helpful call from my ISP yesterday letting me know that they will be doing "major" maintinance in a few hours |
| kb9vqf | "helpful" /sarcasm |
| kb9vqf | Seems ol' Murphy is out to get me |
| kb9vqf | My hunch is that their network was severely damaged yesterday by the storms |
| kb9vqf | given that their call was about 6 hours later....we had registered 80MPH sustained(!) winds during the derecho event |
| kb9vqf | Utility company called it "blitzkreig" :-P |
| kb9vqf | *blitzkreig rather |
| kb9vqf | We will need to get some kind of load balancing in place at some point in the future if this type of stuff becomes common place |
| kb9vqf | Illinois is hurting for money as a whole and I suspect that some of the bad economy is eating into the utilities' preventative maintenance budgets |
| MutantTurkey | there have been a whole array of storms lately |
| MutantTurkey | still, doesn't give an excuse in my book for poor service. |
| kb9vqf | you should see the pictures... |
| kb9vqf | hang on, I'll put one on Imagebin :) |
| MutantTurkey | I always give the "we are actually doing everything we can" not "we are doing everything we can/ |
| MutantTurkey | at my job, as meanial as working as a 711 clerk... I seriously try to provided maximum service and take into account the entire store at once. |
| MutantTurkey | so when companies tell me "they are doing everything they can" while i am watching their maintenance crews are sitting outside my sev eating and carrying on for a good part of the hour on thier clock... |
| MutantTurkey | anyway. I digress. I am entirely fed up with my lousy service. my router has not shown up yet. |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | one sec while I get the link... |
| kb9vqf | well, at my speeds right now, maybe more like a minute :-P |
| MutantTurkey | i'm rocking off of 3g, so it'll take about a week to download |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| kb9vqf | after the storms my camera and I went around documenting the damage |
| MutantTurkey | that impressive? huh. |
| MutantTurkey | no household damage i hope. |
| kb9vqf | trees everywhere |
| kb9vqf | yes, some fell on houses |
| kb9vqf | and cars |
| kb9vqf | some of the wires just snapped from the wind alone |
| MutantTurkey | yeah. weirdly enough my neighbor has had 4/5 tree fall in like 3 years. |
| kb9vqf | the corn fields were *flattened* |
| kb9vqf | if my connection were better I'd upload a few pics |
| MutantTurkey | last year it came across the street, onto the wires in front of my house, and as just leaning on the wire. |
| MutantTurkey | they roped it off with caution tape and left it hanging for a few days. |
| kb9vqf | :eek: |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| * kb9vqf wonders if he sent a 64x64 pixel thumbnail if *that* might make it through :-P | |
| kb9vqf | Oh and it's also fun to have the lights flickering all day |
| kb9vqf | probably as portions of the grid are switched back in |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: http://imagebin.org/162840 |
| MutantTurkey | makes sense. |
| kb9vqf | damage in a residential area |
| MutantTurkey | ouch. that's not pretty. |
| kb9vqf | No kidding |
| kb9vqf | I have more pics from elsewhere |
| MutantTurkey | one thing i always wondered (besides the topic) |
| kb9vqf | Try a huge iron Farm&Fleet sign bent to the ground |
| MutantTurkey | is why the H-E-double hocky sticks do all word processors lack tabbing features? it's ridiculous. |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I am glad i live on the east coast. as i say "it's boring and everything about NJ sucks. but hey, we don't get natural disasters" |
| kb9vqf | except the "Perfect Storm" of '92 |
| kb9vqf | IIRC that hit the entire East coast |
| MutantTurkey | also in like 98 |
| MutantTurkey | mostly our issues are minor flooding but that is about it. |
| kb9vqf | s/1992/1991/g |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| * kb9vqf sometimes gets dates slightly off | |
| kb9vqf | This has certainly been a year for extremes |
| MutantTurkey | I am awful enough with dates as is. |
| kb9vqf | The south gets record tornadoes and then broils |
| kb9vqf | Texas is in record drought |
| MutantTurkey | global warming eh? |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | Actually this is not all that abnormal |
| MutantTurkey | actually not at all. but more like "the built up 150 years of environmental distruction. |
| kb9vqf | People forget that the weather is an average |
| MutantTurkey | global warming doesn't exist. |
| kb9vqf | right |
| MutantTurkey | but the reasons for katrina, flooding and such |
| MutantTurkey | is all because we destroy our natural barriers. |
| kb9vqf | are statistical likelihoods |
| kb9vqf | take my area for instance |
| kb9vqf | we have not had a tornado for many decades |
| kb9vqf | yet on average we should have one every decade or so |
| kb9vqf | (a big one that is) |
| kb9vqf | so people get complacent and when the statistics finally catch up with them things get ugly |
| kb9vqf | Just my $0.02 ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | oddly, we have had a few in philly in the past few years. |
| MutantTurkey | actually one touched down in my suburb, while i was in middle school. |
| kb9vqf | :eek: |
| kb9vqf | There was one back in the 60s here that completely destroyed a middle school in my general area |
| kb9vqf | They are nothing to mess with |
| kb9vqf | we still have a strict building code as a result |
| MutantTurkey | which is good. |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | all buildings in the midwest are brick right? |
| kb9vqf | No, surprisingly |
| MutantTurkey | all of ours are crappy and thrown together with wood and glue. |
| MutantTurkey | really? I've been to more of the missouri area |
| MutantTurkey | mostly brick their |
| kb9vqf | but near major tornado touchdowns they do require reinforced roofs and such |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: in comparison. there are none hear, and only brick ones are the historical ones. |
| kb9vqf | here they are McMansions with brick facades and cheap vinyl siding on the sides and rear |
| kb9vqf | They look REALLY unsafe if a tornado hit :-P |
| MutantTurkey | basically. |
| kb9vqf | nothing like bricks flying through your siding and foam insulation... |
| kb9vqf | anyway I think I am far enough OT for the time being :) |
| kb9vqf | Hopefully my power and ISP connection will stabilise in the next few days |
| kb9vqf | None of us has the resources to be another Google and distribute services over a dedicated fiber line |
| kb9vqf | Same goes for your VPS |
| kb9vqf | if a severe event hit the datacenter you'd be down too ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | what about it? |
| MutantTurkey | except that they have 3 data centers! :D |
| MutantTurkey | (i think at least) |
| kb9vqf | And they are all in sync? |
| MutantTurkey | not sure, I will ask now. |
| kb9vqf | That kind of technology has not been developed yet |
| kb9vqf | it would require insane bandwidth AFAIK |
| MutantTurkey | they have it. |
| MutantTurkey | it's in germany |
| MutantTurkey | I dont know how that is for weather. |
| kb9vqf | I would be very surprised if your VPS has transparent failover between datacenters |
| kb9vqf | Germany is very stable weather-wise |
| kb9vqf | Nothing of interest |
| kb9vqf | the mountains tend to destroy convective structures |
| kb9vqf | While tornadoes are not unheard of there, it is nothing like the Midwest of the United States ;-) |
| kb9vqf | This connection is driving me nuts, so I'll sign off for now |
| kb9vqf | Thanks for the chat |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | I'll be around tomorrow working hours if you want to do more admin related bug work. |
| kb9vqf | ok, sounds good |
| kb9vqf | I just got done tracing more memory corruption in kdesktop |
| kb9vqf | fixes are in SVN |
| MutantTurkey | excellent. |
| kb9vqf | and tbottu isn't dying, even though the connection is horrid :) |
| MutantTurkey | Tomorrow i am going to track down that problem of building on arch, hopefully get that sorted out. |
| kb9vqf | So that is a major improvement |
| kb9vqf | Sounds good |
| kb9vqf | samelian was here not that long ago |
| MutantTurkey | tbottu seems a bit more stable lately. |
| tbottu | MutantTurkey: Error: "seems" is not a valid command. |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: me and samelian seem to keep missing eachother. |
| kb9vqf | yeah |
| kb9vqf | I can't help too much |
| kb9vqf | (mainly because it works on my systems) |
| MutantTurkey | we need samelian, he understands cmake :) |
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| kb9vqf | DNS changes are propogating through the Internet as I type this |
| kb9vqf | Expect all services to be restored in about 24 hours |
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| Xu_R | i spy a kb9vqf and a tbottu |
| Xu_R | :o |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Xu_R | servers connected now? :D |
| kb9vqf | No guaruntees that everything is fully online yet, but from what I can see everything is.... |
| kb9vqf | if you see something down/unavailable please poke me |
| Xu_R | I see it online :D |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Xu_R | :D |
| kb9vqf | Some info is on the Etherpad |
| kb9vqf | the last problem was that my ISP cut a fiber cable :-P |
| Space_Man | lol |
| kb9vqf | so we should probably have a meeting in a week or two |
| Xu_R | it's supposed to be tuesday... |
| kb9vqf | hmmm, ok |
| kb9vqf | I don't know how much progress others made, but obviously I wasn't able to do what I wanted to yet |
| Xu_R | ok, I may postpone it. |
| kb9vqf | specifically I am still waiting on a full Qt3/Qt4 rebuild of the latest Trinity SVN |
| kb9vqf | no power and no Internet made that all but impossible |
| Xu_R | oh. that's almost guaranting it |
| Xu_R | *guaranteeing (or however you spell it) |
| kb9vqf | yep, that's right |
| kb9vqf | I'll check back later...if anyone sees any services down please poke me |
| kb9vqf | gotta get the build farm running that build again.... |
| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | they! |
| MutantTurkey | hey' |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: tim i got backups working of kde.org |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: http://mutantturkey.com/mirrorlog.html |
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| Borg^Queen | hi hi |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
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| Piki | hi |
| Piki | yay, the sites back! :-) |
| kb9vqf | And ahead of schedule too :) |
| kb9vqf | See the July meeting etherpad for more info on the outages |
| Piki | btw what version of autotools did 3.5.12 need? |
| kb9vqf | autoconf 2.63 IIRC |
| kb9vqf | <= 2.63 |
| Piki | i'm just about ready to start building, i just need to grab autotools and start building |
| Piki | kb9vqf: is a certain version of automake required? |
| kb9vqf | no |
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| Piki | the qt tarball i need is qt-x11-free-3.3.8b.tar.xx ? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: hey, future comment about the channel |
| MutantTurkey | when you have an outage, update the topic so people know :) |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: hey I need some help building kdebase |
| MutantTurkey | I am having trouble making it find the dbus tqt path i think |
| MutantTurkey | I tried adding it to my CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH but it still doesn't see it. |
| samelian | what kind of trouble? |
| MutantTurkey | it gives me the dbus-tqt cannot be found on your system |
| MutantTurkey | but i exported it with export CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/opt/qt/include/tqt:/opt/trinity/include/dbus-1.0:/opt/trinity/include/dbus-1.0/dbus:/opt/trinity/include:/opt/trinity/include/libkrandr |
| samelian | check error log |
| MutantTurkey | http://ix.io/1Nk |
| MutantTurkey | It doesn't seem to include it |
| samelian | where is located your connection.h? |
| MutantTurkey | /opt/trinity/include |
| samelian | in /opt/trinity/include/dbus/connection.h ? |
| MutantTurkey | /opt/trinity/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/ |
| samelian | where is dbus-tqt.pc? |
| MutantTurkey | in uh |
| MutantTurkey | /opt/trinity/lib/pkgconfig |
| samelian | and cmake knows that .pc file is located in /opt/trinity/lib/pkgconfig? |
| MutantTurkey | export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=:/opt/trinity/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/qt/lib/pkgconfig: |
| samelian | show me output of pkg-config --cflags dbus-tqt |
| MutantTurkey | -I/opt/trinity/include |
| samelian | but pkg-config --cflags dbus-1-tqt ? |
| MutantTurkey | nope |
| samelian | hmm, seems that kdebase cmake is not adapted for dbus-1-tqt |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| samelian | try to replace pkg_search_module( DBUS dbus-1 ) |
| samelian | with pkg_search_module( DBUS dbus-tqt ) |
| MutantTurkey | where is that? |
| samelian | ConfigureChecks.cmake |
| MutantTurkey | oh in CMrighright |
| MutantTurkey | still errors out |
| MutantTurkey | maybe dbus-tqt-1 |
| samelian | I don't think so, dbus/connection.h is provided by dbus-tqt |
| MutantTurkey | hrm |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: you have pkg_search_module( DBUS dbus-tqt ), of smth else? |
| MutantTurkey | i have dbus-tqt |
| samelian | I see, but the variable is DBUS, or smth else? |
| MutantTurkey | i have that |
| samelian | paste entire ConfigureChecks |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | http://ix.io/1N1 |
| MutantTurkey | http://ix.io/1Nl |
| MutantTurkey | i apologize |
| MutantTurkey | they look the same xD |
| samelian | the error is the same? |
| MutantTurkey | let me retry |
| samelian | show me output of cmake as well |
| MutantTurkey | http://ix.io/1Nm |
| samelian | and error log/ |
| MutantTurkey | OK |
| MutantTurkey | http://ix.io/1Nn |
| samelian | hmm |
| samelian | are you sure you have /opt/trinity/include/dbus? |
| MutantTurkey | let me verify |
| MutantTurkey | no not there |
| MutantTurkey | there is |
| samelian | but? |
| MutantTurkey | /opt/trinity/include/dbus-1.0/ |
| samelian | should be in /opt/trinity/include/dbus |
| MutantTurkey | okay i wonder why it is in dbus-1.0 |
| MutantTurkey | it should be in dbus-1.0 |
| MutantTurkey | that is where it installs default |
| MutantTurkey | do you want me to move it? |
| MutantTurkey | either way, i included /opt/trinity/include/dbus-1.0/ |
| samelian | dbus should be installed where .pc file indicate |
| samelian | otherwise can't be found |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: I'll look at the pc file |
| MutantTurkey | isn't the pc file generated? |
| samelian | it is |
| kb9vqf | Good idea MutantTurkey :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: yeah. |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: hrm no luck then |
| MutantTurkey | can i regenerate it or something/ |
| samelian | .pc file is based on INCLUDE_INSTALL_DIR |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: do you know why it would be in "dbus-1.0" instead of dbus? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: okay |
| MutantTurkey | for tqt |
| kb9vqf | I don't know; I haven't looked at that code in quite a while :-/ |
| samelian | how you installed dbus-tqt? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: what do you mean? |
| samelian | is installed by make install or somehow manually? |
| MutantTurkey | with my pkgbuild |
| MutantTurkey | its packaged |
| samelian | aha |
| MutantTurkey | my INCLUDE_INSTALL_DIR is /opt/trinity |
| samelian | maybe your package did not respect CMAKE_PREFIX |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| samelian | ah, I see a problem |
| samelian | install( FILES |
| samelian | dbus-qt.h message.h connection.h server.h |
| samelian | DESTINATION ${INCLUDE_INSTALL_DIR}/dbus-1.0/dbus ) |
| samelian | i'm not sure why is that |
| samelian | kb9vqf: you did not changed DESTINATION? |
| samelian | I don't remember if I changed it |
| kb9vqf | I don't remember either |
| samelian | hehe |
| kb9vqf | all I know is it works here (TM) |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| samelian | ok, I will check it today later |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
| samelian | right now my mind is too fuzzy, there is 7:00 AM at this moment :) |
| kb9vqf | I'm currently in the middle of a rebuild that was interrupted due to Monday's derecho |
| samelian | I can't sleep |
| MutantTurkey | I am up :D |
| MutantTurkey | so I am at this point, just waiting for that file change? |
| MutantTurkey | i'll just do it myself |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: wait should it be ${INCLUDE_INSTALL_DIR}/dbus/? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: can anyone clone the git? |
| MutantTurkey | anyway actually i am going to sleep. I'll sort this out later. |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: so any idea about this problem i am having? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: how do i clone our git? :\ |
| MutantTurkey | without a user |
| MutantTurkey | just no user prefixing the url/ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: remove your username from it |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: okay yeah i am just going t odo that |
| MutantTurkey | gotta convert all the package building systems to git D: |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: hey important |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: on the archlinux developers mailing list |
| MutantTurkey | they are discussing who isgoing to maintain qt3 and kdelibs3 |
| MutantTurkey | i privately emailed the guy earier about qt3 |
| MutantTurkey | but kdelibs3 is a different story |
| MutantTurkey | http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2011-July/020985.html |
| MutantTurkey | are we compat with the old kde3libs? i am not suree how this works |
| MutantTurkey | but, this could be our foot in the door to getting supported officially by a distro |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|ZNC: ^ also see this and tell me what you tink |
| kb9vqf | We are NOT compatible with the old kdelibs in terms of the ABI |
| kb9vqf | the API will allow the older KDE3 apps to be compiled against the Trinity kdelibs in theory, but I've never tried it |
| kb9vqf | the fact that we use TQt instead of Qt3 may throw a monkey wrench into that idea |
| MutantTurkey | yeah. |
| ar | kb9vqf: TQt is the wrapper around qt4? |
| MutantTurkey | but qt3 is api compat right? |
| MutantTurkey | ar: yes and qt3 |
| MutantTurkey | against all qt versions |
| kb9vqf | yes, qt3 is compatible |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: because we could be qt3 upstream |
| kb9vqf | that is OK with me |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: so in theory we could compile to the, but not neccesarily? |
| kb9vqf | The goal is to pull all of the disparate Qt3 patches to create a central, up-to-date Qt3 repository that can then be extended as neccessary |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| kb9vqf | "compile to the"? |
| MutantTurkey | if they recompile (thats probably okay) will it work? |
| MutantTurkey | recompile gaainst new kde3libs |
| kb9vqf | possibly |
| kb9vqf | I can't guarantee it |
| kb9vqf | the reason is that some member names changed in TQt3 |
| kb9vqf | In all likelihood the original Qt3 member names will "bleed through" and the code will compile, but I am not comfortable stating that it *will* work at this point |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | i am recommending they don't use our kdelibs3 |
| MutantTurkey | did you see that link |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| kb9vqf | looking at it now |
| kb9vqf | can they try it? |
| MutantTurkey | i emailed it |
| MutantTurkey | to you |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | my response |
| MutantTurkey | look at it and see if it's okay |
| kb9vqf | I'm just not sure what to do here :) |
| kb9vqf | we're not stable yet |
| kb9vqf | (will be fall before 3.5.13 is released) |
| kb9vqf | Just a couple of nits |
| kb9vqf | 1.) TQt is not Tqt ;-) |
| kb9vqf | 2.) kde3 is not Trinity |
| MutantTurkey | i know. |
| MutantTurkey | thats what i mean |
| kb9vqf | 3.) I would put in a recommendation that they look into switching to the Trinity-provided kdelibs/kdebase/kde* modules |
| kb9vqf | just for the simple fact that they are having build problems now with the old stock KDE3 sources |
| kb9vqf | Just a thought |
| MutantTurkey | so i should recommend that when we release stable, they should just switch? |
| kb9vqf | it won't be as easy as "just switch", primarily due to CMake being used to build arts/kdelibs/kdebase, but yes |
| kb9vqf | it shouldn't be too bad |
| kb9vqf | I changed the Ubuntu build scripts in about a day |
| kb9vqf | (to handle CMake and the tqtinterface deps that is) |
| MutantTurkey | but if i have package builds they can just steam them |
| MutantTurkey | because i would pu the mup for them to steal :0 |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok :) |
| kb9vqf | yes, in that case switching would be easy |
| MutantTurkey | read that |
| MutantTurkey | sent another |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: i think that should be the one i send off, unless there is any other problems? |
| kb9vqf | Looks good |
| kb9vqf | I only have one suggestion |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| kb9vqf | The Qt3 repository is actually ready to use, combining all the patches I am aware of |
| MutantTurkey | okay so they should use it? |
| MutantTurkey | what is the link? |
| kb9vqf | I would say yes |
| kb9vqf | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=tree&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment&hb=HEAD&f=main/dependencies/qt3 |
| kb9vqf | that's the Webgit |
| kb9vqf | an actual checkout command would be: |
| kb9vqf | git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde/main/dependencies/qt3 |
| kb9vqf | or there's a handy .tar.gz link on the bottom of the webgit page ;-) |
| kb9vqf | As more patches are applied they will be listed in the changes-3.3.8d file |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| kb9vqf | If there are any compilation issues they should just poke me here or send an Email to the trinity-devel list |
| kb9vqf | IIRC a compilation test was already run successfully on an non-Ubuntu system by someone on the mailing list |
| kb9vqf | so I'm not expecting any problems |
| MutantTurkey | http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2011-July/020969.html sent |
| MutantTurkey | gottta go drop off paper work at HR |
| kb9vqf | ok, thanks |
| MutantTurkey | i'll stop by later. |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| kb9vqf | hopefully we start getting some downstream distro support now... :) |
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| Borg^Queen | hello humans, AIs and others |
| MutantTurkey | blech |
| Borg^Queen | ? |
| MutantTurkey | running around hot downtown filling out paperwork |
| MutantTurkey | very gross |
| Borg^Queen | ugh really, how hot is it? |
| Borg^Queen | its 35c here |
| MutantTurkey | uh i would say about 35c |
| MutantTurkey | which by itself is bearable |
| MutantTurkey | but the humidity |
| MutantTurkey | is terrible. |
| Borg^Queen | the tell is, if you believe the weather monkeys, its going to get up about 38c here today |
| Borg^Queen | I doubt it, since its already cooling off |
| Borg^Queen | I hate humidity, makes for a bad hair day, and mine is very long |
| Borg^Queen | I end up looking like a rabid brillo pad |
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| Borg^Queen | hi kb9vqf |
| kb9vqf | Hello :) |
| Borg^Queen | Got some feed back from my testers yesterday |
| Borg^Queen | "Great job! |
| Borg^Queen | " |
| kb9vqf | :D |
| Borg^Queen | That was pretty much it, they went back to using it |
| kb9vqf | VERY glad to hear that! |
| Borg^Queen | T he only complaints where about in ubuntu in general |
| Borg^Queen | Its a well earned feed back |
| kb9vqf | Yes, Ubuntu is fast becoming a steaming pile of something nasty :-P |
| Borg^Queen | ooh lol |
| kb9vqf | Too unstable, too much API breakage for no reason |
| kb9vqf | Case in point: I do video editing in my spare time |
| kb9vqf | and use IEEE1394 |
| kb9vqf | Guess what Natty did? |
| Borg^Queen | Its called "Replicate Fade" a genetics term, meaning errors resulting from making copies of copies |
| kb9vqf | They moved the /dev/raw1394 device to /dev/fw0....for no reason whatsoever! |
| Borg^Queen | Umm I use fW too |
| Borg^Queen | arrrgh |
| Borg^Queen | seriously? |
| kb9vqf | Let's just say it breaks Kino and other apps |
| kb9vqf | and yes :-P |
| kb9vqf | I am serious |
| Borg^Queen | Well I do my video editing, which is a lot, on Ark linux, which sadly doesn't have TDE yet. But the founding devel is very interested. Come to #arklinux to meet him if you have the time and inclination. |
| kb9vqf | A symbolic link will fix the issue (ln -s /dev/fw0 /dev/raw1394), but you have to do that on every boot |
| kb9vqf | Debian is starting to look more and more attractive |
| kb9vqf | I have Debian boxes that give me no trouble whatsoever |
| Borg^Queen | I was on debian but I wanted a pure kde distro, arklinux was and still is the best distro I've used. I have it so tweaked I can do 80% of my work from konq |
| Borg^Queen | I have video, audio, graphics, file management and more servicemenus |
| kb9vqf | nice |
| Borg^Queen | I've been experimenting with dvd, bluray ripping and converting to mkv |
| Borg^Queen | the cli tools are SO easy |
| kb9vqf | You're lucky you aren't in the USA |
| * kb9vqf wishes he could do that | |
| Borg^Queen | I am |
| kb9vqf | BTW can you check the rsync mirror of Trinity for me? |
| Borg^Queen | how |
| kb9vqf | see if you can get a directory list from rsync.trinitydesktop.org |
| kb9vqf | e.g. with rsync rsync://rsync.trinitydesktop.org |
| * kb9vqf is fixing some routing issues | |
| Borg^Queen | ok hang on, don't use rsync very often |
| Borg^Queen | rsync: getaddrinfo: rsync.trinitydesktop.org 873: Name or service not known |
| Borg^Queen | rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(122) [receiver=3.0.2] |
| Borg^Queen | kb9vqf: you can add all kinds of multimedia services because you are not a commercial entity |
| * kb9vqf was afraid of that | |
| kb9vqf | hang on |
| * kb9vqf mutters something about keeping illegal topics off this channel | |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Borg^Queen | aye |
| kb9vqf | OK, please try the rsync again... |
| Borg^Queen | one moment |
| Borg^Queen | same error |
| Borg^Queen | perhaps I'm getting the command wrong |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | I was playing with the routing and messed it up |
| Borg^Queen | give me an exact command |
| Borg^Queen | I did that last night took down my entire network until 10 am this morning |
| kb9vqf | Borg^Queen: OK, try one more time |
| kb9vqf | rsync rsync://rsync.trinitydesktop.org |
| Borg^Queen | same error |
| kb9vqf | ?? |
| kb9vqf | That should have worked |
| kb9vqf | what is the error? |
| Borg^Queen | the way I do it is I open a terminal into the dir where I have the iso, is that wrong? |
| Borg^Queen | rsync: getaddrinfo: rsync.trinitydesktop.org 873: Name or service not known |
| Borg^Queen | rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(122) [receiver=3.0.2] |
| kb9vqf | Sounds like a DNS malfunction |
| kb9vqf | What does ping rsync.trinitydesktop.org show? |
| Borg^Queen | one moment |
| Borg^Queen | ping: unknown host rsync.trinitydesktop.org |
| Borg^Queen | let me test me ping functions |
| Borg^Queen | its working |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | I will have to think for a few minutes |
| Borg^Queen | sorry |
| kb9vqf | Borg^Queen: OK, try again please... |
| Borg^Queen | ok |
| Borg^Queen | same both rsync and ping |
| kb9vqf | rsync still failing? |
| Borg^Queen | is trinity site down? |
| Borg^Queen | yes on rsync and ping as well |
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| Borg^Queen | There goes the neihbourhood |
| kb9vqf | Ah, there we go I think |
| Borg^Queen | There goes the neighborhood even |
| Borg^Queen | check? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | I confused it with two gateways :-P |
| kb9vqf | (accidentally) |
| Borg^Queen | not working |
| Borg^Queen | maybe I'm doing something wrong? |
| kb9vqf | worked on a remote system I have access to |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | post the command? |
| Borg^Queen | ping rsync.trinitydesktop.org & ping rsync.trinitydesktop.org are the commands I'm using |
| kb9vqf | Oh, ping may not work |
| kb9vqf | I was just making sure it resolved the DNS entry |
| kb9vqf | in fact IIRC ping is blocked |
| kb9vqf | what about rsync? |
| Xu_R | shush Borg^Queen. :P |
| Borg^Queen | same error as before |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Can you try? |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=181&t=128274&p=848036#p848036 have you seen this? |
| kb9vqf | rsync rsync://rsync.trinitydesktop.org |
| Borg^Queen | same |
| Xu_R | nope |
| Xu_R | doesn't work here |
| kb9vqf | failing? |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | oh, duh |
| kb9vqf | I gave the wrong URL |
| kb9vqf | sorry |
| * kb9vqf needs more coffee | |
| Borg^Queen | >: |
| Xu_R | xD |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| Borg^Queen | ok brb |
| kb9vqf | rsync rsync://rsync.pearsoncomputing.net |
| MutantTurkey | what's up with rsync? |
| kb9vqf | The mirroring system broke after the IP change |
| Borg^Queen | ok working |
| Xu_R | there we go |
| MutantTurkey | oh D: |
| Xu_R | that works xD |
| Borg^Queen | brb |
| kb9vqf | So the mirrors should sync again...that's good |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Can you try another test for me? |
| Xu_R | sure |
| kb9vqf | Try to actually *pull* some files from that rsync server |
| kb9vqf | I need to make sure the bandwidth settings are OK |
| kb9vqf | Let me know when you have initiated the download so I can peer at the charts |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | it's active? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: sent that email off, still no word back yet no idea why. |
| kb9vqf | give them time :) |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Not seeing your download traffic yet |
| Xu_R | yea, hold on |
| Xu_R | router's been screwing me up all weekend |
| kb9vqf | oh, ok |
| kb9vqf | I just need a short burst for a minute or so |
| Borg^Queen | ok back |
| Xu_R | got that short burst? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | I was waiting for a poke |
| kb9vqf | sorry |
| kb9vqf | try again? |
| Xu_R | get anything? |
| Xu_R | because my server is seeing yours and pulling now |
| kb9vqf | yes, I see your traffic |
| kb9vqf | It's in the wrong spot on my end |
| kb9vqf | hang on while I reconfigure something |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | stopping and waiting |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Try again please |
| Xu_R | starting |
| kb9vqf | OK, much better |
| kb9vqf | everything looks OK now |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
| Xu_R | terminating |
| kb9vqf | BTW please don't use that address unless you have a mirror to add to the system |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: ok. i'm not using it anyway. |
| kb9vqf | When the primary mirrors start pulling that link will swamp very quickly :) |
| Xu_R | xD I figured |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: so did you see this? http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=181&t=128274&p=848036#p848036 |
| Borg^Queen | I leave the mirrors to the pros |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: yes I did |
| Borg^Queen | Xu_R: I read it, what about it? |
| kb9vqf | so it looks like there are spec files "out there in the Ether"? |
| kb9vqf | want to pull them and try building Trinity with them? (hint hint) |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: yea... I want to see what he did |
| Xu_R | except I need to see if that fix can be used to build the latest SVN too. |
| kb9vqf | If they're good clone them to our GIT repo |
| Xu_R | Borg^Queen: that is supposed to allow the old autotools system to build Trinity |
| Xu_R | with newer autoconf versions |
| Borg^Queen | I thought we were going to all cmake |
| Borg^Queen | I hate autotools |
| Xu_R | Borg^Queen: we're not stalled on it anymore, so if you can still use it, it's an advantage to have a fallback |
| Borg^Queen | true, good point |
| Xu_R | I haven't heard from anyone on the July Meeting except kb9vqf... *glare* |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: I patched Automake as best as I could some time ago |
| kb9vqf | i.e. most things build |
| kb9vqf | arts is NOT one of them |
| kb9vqf | but since we have CMake for Arts I don't really care |
| Borg^Queen | does arts do anything anymore? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | it's still needed |
| kb9vqf | it does seem quite stable IMHO |
| kb9vqf | I have had no problems with it since 3.5.11 |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Borg^Queen | I never had any problems with it, but everyone says its been replaced |
| Borg^Queen | ? |
| kb9vqf | with what? |
| kb9vqf | pulseaudio? |
| kb9vqf | that *does* give me problems on a near-daily asis |
| kb9vqf | *basis |
| kb9vqf | AFAIK there is no viable replacement for arts |
| Borg^Queen | I never got it to work, and phonon keeps crashing |
| kb9vqf | I think the "arts is dead" stuff is wishful thinking |
| Borg^Queen | A lot of kde4 is wishful thinking, honestly |
| kb9vqf | as in it was replaced under KDE4 with an unstable chunk of new software |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Borg^Queen | case in point |
| Xu_R | lol |
| Borg^Queen | what lol its true |
| Xu_R | I know |
| MutantTurkey | yes! finally got all my paperwork done with the HR department :) |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: :D |
| MutantTurkey | :D :D |
| MutantTurkey | but now i actually have to work D: |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| Xu_R | hey, kb9vqf: could you give Borg^Queen git access? I want her to help me with packaging for RPM-based distros |
| kb9vqf | sure :) |
| Borg^Queen | I stink at that |
| kb9vqf | Can I have a real name and an Email address? |
| Xu_R | Borg^Queen: even if it's testing...? lol |
| Borg^Queen | Kate Draven / borgqueen4@gmail.com |
| MutantTurkey | SSN and phone number and bank #'s to |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| kb9vqf | OK |
| kb9vqf | No |
| Xu_R | LOL |
| Borg^Queen | Oh I can test, I can break and complain about anything |
| Borg^Queen | what |
| Xu_R | as you are notorious for doing that ;P |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: >: |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: is it possible that we could have some sort of developers area for the site? as a portal |
| kb9vqf | Remember we are a desktop project, meaning that we should at least know who is committing what for security reasons |
| Borg^Queen | true |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: and for good reasons too. |
| MutantTurkey | i mean just like a page that links to all the other ones |
| Borg^Queen | kb9vqf: I' |
| MutantTurkey | because we have cgit, etherpad, etc |
| Borg^Queen | I'm glad you said that |
| Xu_R | speaking of Etherpad, is the July meeting tomorrow? |
| kb9vqf | time out, time out :) |
| kb9vqf | too much text |
| Xu_R | XD |
| Xu_R | brb, my contacts are getting blurry... D: |
| Borg^Queen | gross |
| kb9vqf | yes, a portal would be nice |
| MutantTurkey | and a maybe "phonebook" so to speak |
| kb9vqf | I don't have time to iron out what should be on it |
| kb9vqf | want to thrown up an Etherpad with what you guys want to seee? |
| MutantTurkey | more like a contact page for us devels so other people have emails and such |
| kb9vqf | *see? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: i can do it |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | then just Email it to me or something |
| kb9vqf | re: the meeting |
| kb9vqf | tomorrow may not be the best time |
| kb9vqf | how about a week from tomorrow? |
| Xu_R | back |
| Xu_R | yes, gross D: |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: so postpone it a week? ok |
| kb9vqf | yes, please |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/7 |
| kb9vqf | OK, Email with account info sent |
| kb9vqf | Borg^Queen: ^^^ |
| Borg^Queen | ah ok thank you |
| kb9vqf | Let me know when you have changed your password and I will grant commit access |
| kb9vqf | Do you want access to just the packaging repo or the source code as well? |
| Borg^Queen | very good, a little busy at the moment, can it wait a bit? |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| kb9vqf | just poke me or Email me when done |
| Borg^Queen | whatever Xu_R needs, I'm going to test whatever he packages |
| Xu_R | :D |
| Borg^Queen | and there's the smirk |
| Xu_R | teehee |
| Borg^Queen | He sees his opportunity to torture me |
| Xu_R | no, borgy, I will not install malware -_- |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| Borg^Queen | I was taking a sip of water when the popped up |
| Borg^Queen | I almost did a spit take into the fan |
| Xu_R | *when the popped up? |
| Borg^Queen | it rather |
| Borg^Queen | [15:40] <Xu_R> no, borgy, I will not install malware -_- |
| Xu_R | oh xD |
| Borg^Queen | square kb and I uses ergos |
| Borg^Queen | brb |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
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| Borg^Queen | wb |
| MutantTurkey | thanks ran into a bit of comptuer trouble |
| Xu_R | wb |
| Xu_R | ah, i'm late. |
| Borg^Queen | pregnant? |
| Xu_R | -_- no. |
| MutantTurkey | O.o |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: tis ok, you can relax |
| MutantTurkey | haha |
| MutantTurkey | I really need to get this dumb build problem fixedu p |
| MutantTurkey | I am itching to work on real problems :P |
| Borg^Queen | what's wrong? |
| MutantTurkey | i have to update some scripts now that we are using git, annd fix an error with my kdebase script. |
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| kb9vqf | Anyone here know this guy? |
| kb9vqf | Pawel <0x4r0x@gmail.com> requested an account for trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: no... |
| kb9vqf | If not I'll probably ignore his request |
| kb9vqf | could be a spam bot |
| Xu_R | ignore for now - and if anyone mentions on the list, then we'll know |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | just thought I'd check here |
| Xu_R | nice to know that the request feature works :D |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | Yes...since the (ill-timed) upgrades most things appear to be working at 100% |
| Xu_R | a very good thing indeed |
| Borg^Queen | ? |
| kb9vqf | On July 11th or so I did some upgrades and maintinance of the Trinity web services |
| Borg^Queen | Xu_R: f15 ... OMG lol |
| Xu_R | Borg^Queen: you can now request for an account on etherpad using a built-in form instead of us having to manually do it. |
| kb9vqf | While this fixed a lot of problems I did manage to knock the Etherpad offline |
| Borg^Queen | it seems gnome is the default ui, should I try kde4 |
| kb9vqf | and then the derecho came through a few days later |
| kb9vqf | so the timing ended up being very bad in hindsight |
| Borg^Queen | oh blimey, I think its dead |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| Xu_R | ... |
| * Xu_R wonders if Borg^Queen paid attention...? | |
| Borg^Queen | my fedora 15 install |
| * Xu_R gets a no as an answer. | |
| Borg^Queen | about etherpad, yes sorry, |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | we have several topics going on here apparently |
| * kb9vqf gets off to let the channel topic take precedence :) | |
| Borg^Queen | I'm new to all this so I'll have to learn on the fly regarding things like etherpad |
| Xu_R | brb, dinner. |
| Borg^Queen | k |
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| Xu_R | back |
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| Borg^Queen | ok time for me to go, gn or day to all |
| MadRush | anybody useing trinity on debian squeeze? I'm getting a dependency problem trying to install |
| Borg^Queen | what dep? |
| eldowan | MadRush: I'm using trinity on squeeze |
| Borg^Queen | well then, I'm off |
| Borg^Queen | thank you eldowan |
| eldowan | Borg^Queen: not sure what help i can be, i'm not at that machine. |
| eldowan | but yw, all the same |
| Borg^Queen | Well you'd know more than me, I haven't used Debian since Sarge |
| Borg^Queen | must go, sorry to run off MadRush, I have to make my own mad rush |
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| eldowan | MadRush: I'll be leaving here shortly, but any info you can provide? |
| eldowan | I had to update some packages on my squeeze box (heh) before the install'd go through. though I dont' remember what |
| MadRush | lol borg |
| Xu_R | don't worry, Borg^Queen is always like that. |
| Xu_R | ping kb9vqf |
| MadRush | its just funny I use this nick but I forget that its actually words that can be used hah |
| MadRush | whats the apt command to go ahead and do a safe update? |
| Xu_R | apt-get upgrade |
| MadRush | thanks |
| MadRush | its been a while since I did that ... been using the update manager for quite a while now. |
| MadRush | im tempted to make a squeeze vm real quick and see if it works on there |
| eldowan | I think there's a switch that you cna use that won't do an update, but show you what would be installed. |
| eldowan | aptitude -s will simulate, but not perform actions. |
| MadRush | good to know. ive got to run but I'll be back later if I haven't made any headway |
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| Xu_R | brb, upgrading virtualbox (which reset my damn connection) |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: werid still no answer :[ |
| MutantTurkey | also, I can't clone the git... |
| MutantTurkey | did you run "update-server-info" on the server? |
| MutantTurkey | fatal: http://cmorrison@trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde-packaging/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? |
| * Xu_R hopes that kb9vqf is not using java's implementation of git that SCM-Manager is supposed to use... | |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: then again, I didn't have that problem... |
| Xu_R | oh, I know |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: check your url |
| MutantTurkey | whats wron with that? |
| Xu_R | it's scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde-packaging |
| Xu_R | you're missing the subdomain |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | okay :) |
| MutantTurkey | thanks! |
| Xu_R | np |
| MutantTurkey | this info should really be somewhere.. |
| Xu_R | it is... |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| Xu_R | scm.trinitydesktop.org |
| Xu_R | if you login |
| MutantTurkey | what is git.trinitdesktop.org? |
| Xu_R | it also tells you your git clone command |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: the cgit interface AFAIK |
| MutantTurkey | oh here is a git tip if you dont want a giant wait to clone huge repos |
| MutantTurkey | git clone URL --depth=1 |
| MutantTurkey | only checks out most recent revision |
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| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: My internet is fast (but comcast loves throttling me), and I've really had not many problems with many big repos. but thanks for the tip! |
| MutantTurkey | but like when you clone the kernel... |
| MutantTurkey | if you ever do |
| MutantTurkey | it's annoyingly ridiculous :P |
| Xu_R | oh, now I want to. XD |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: yo so at this point all patches have been incorporated into qt3? |
| Xu_R | pretty much. there's nothing really much more. |
| MutantTurkey | have archlinux patches been looked at? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: hey I have all these qt3 patches in tde-packaging/arch/trinity-qt3/ and i don't know if they are still relevant |
| MutantTurkey | (i am undergoing the conversion to git now) |
| kb9vqf | can you see if they are in the qt3 master branch? |
| MutantTurkey | how would i do that? |
| MutantTurkey | is there a way to search? |
| kb9vqf | you would have to load each patch and see if the changes are already in the source files |
| kb9vqf | alternatively, check out the source and try to patch it |
| kb9vqf | patch will complain if the patches are already in place |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: just go with option 2, and use quilt. it'll make your life so much easier. |
| MutantTurkey | ok :) |
| MutantTurkey | I am terrible at remembering passwords D: |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: sorry to be a pain in the arse, could you reset me git password? |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: reset |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| kb9vqf | np |
| MutantTurkey | does scm allow us to do oher things? or is it just a git manager? |
| kb9vqf | it's a scm manager |
| MutantTurkey | scm? |
| kb9vqf | so I could also provide subversion or mercurial repositories |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | source control manager |
| MutantTurkey | so many acronyms |
| kb9vqf | iirc |
| MutantTurkey | I thought it was vcs |
| kb9vqf | I know :) |
| kb9vqf | probably vcs is more generic |
| Xu_R | lol |
| Xu_R | scm, vcs |
| Xu_R | both work in the end :P |
| MutantTurkey | also what are we on |
| MutantTurkey | 3.3.8c? |
| Xu_R | yup |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | oh my gosh this pkgbuild is way to complicated... |
| kb9vqf | 3.3.8d technically |
| kb9vqf | 3.3.8d being HEAD |
| kb9vqf | 3.3.8c was already released |
| kb9vqf | 3.3.8d may end up being the fully patched version of 3.3.8c |
| MutantTurkey | head? |
| kb9vqf | latest bleeding-edge version in the VCS |
| MutantTurkey | wait so I should pull from the main/ though right? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | or is that HEAD? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | whats in experimental/ ? |
| kb9vqf | let me put it this way: for an old stable project like Qt3 you want to pull the latest (HEAD) development sources from GIT |
| kb9vqf | experimental contains tqt4 |
| MutantTurkey | okay :) |
| kb9vqf | and believe me it is HIGHLY experimental :) |
| kb9vqf | will probably eat your cat and make trees fall on your car |
| Xu_R | D: kitty hater! |
| MutantTurkey | I'll stay away. |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also a maybe ridiculous thought |
| MutantTurkey | we want to use webkit, do we want to write a tqt interface for webkit? |
| MutantTurkey | there already is a qt4 port for it, I don't know how much effort would be required |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: hrm another weird thing, I can do this: git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde |
| MutantTurkey | but not git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde/main/dependencies/qt3/ |
| kb9vqf | no? |
| kb9vqf | what's the error? |
| MutantTurkey | fatal: remote error: Git repository not found |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: you could never do that with git last I checked. |
| * kb9vqf is a GIT newbie | |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: yes you can I think... |
| MutantTurkey | I am almost sure |
| Xu_R | otherwise I would have done it with gitorious... |
| MutantTurkey | maybe not |
| kb9vqf | From what I understand it's not possible |
| * Xu_R tests his gitorious for that | |
| MutantTurkey | you can do it |
| kb9vqf | I'm basing that on the fact that, unlike SVN, there is no .git directory in each subdirectory of a repository |
| MutantTurkey | sparse checkouts |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: no, it didn't work here... |
| Xu_R | oh, sparse checkouts, eww... |
| kb9vqf | ?? |
| Xu_R | there's this : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/600079/is-there-any-way-to-clone-a-git-repositorys-sub-directory-only |
| MutantTurkey | what do you mean eww? |
| MutantTurkey | it's identical to svn's way |
| MutantTurkey | http://vmiklos.hu/blog/sparse-checkout-example-in-git-1-7 |
| MutantTurkey | youjust have to set it up i think |
| Xu_R | exactly why I said eww. |
| Xu_R | you can't do that on an initial clone |
| MutantTurkey | i know |
| MutantTurkey | so what do we do? just force them to checkout everything? |
| kb9vqf | well, not a problem with my server then |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: no :) |
| kb9vqf | GIT does have limitations |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: yea. pretty much. unless you want me to do branches? |
| Xu_R | one branch per distro? |
| kb9vqf | ick |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: so does svn :P |
| MutantTurkey | anyway i think git has good advantages over svn |
| Xu_R | (that actually sounds kinda good, doing branches) |
| MutantTurkey | though this is one that seems pretty hefty annoying |
| kb9vqf | I assume there would still be a way to check out everything? |
| kb9vqf | I don't want to lose that |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: git clone takes out everything. |
| kb9vqf | The more connections you have being established in an automated script, the higher the liklihood of failure |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| kb9vqf | well, as long as we retain the ability to have a large, editable "master" checkout of everything I don't care what is done about branches/sparse checkouts/etc. |
| * Xu_R actually wants to work on a seperate branch for now with these mandriva SRPMS | |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: hmmm got an email back from a developer |
| kb9vqf | and? |
| kb9vqf | not good? |
| MutantTurkey | it was like off topic... |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| MutantTurkey | http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2011-July/020977.html |
| MutantTurkey | read |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also, are you being trottled at liek 90kbs? |
| kb9vqf | it sounds like they are not interested |
| kb9vqf | I shouldn't be |
| kb9vqf | which service is affected? |
| MutantTurkey | just git cloning is really slow |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: thats only one developer, out of like 30... |
| MutantTurkey | mostly what i was proposing was qt3 |
| MutantTurkey | kdelibs3 i even said wasn't important until we went stable |
| kb9vqf | 90kbits or 90kbytes? |
| MutantTurkey | bytes |
| kb9vqf | well that actually might be the max uplink |
| MutantTurkey | oh, in that case sorry for stealing all your bandwidth :P |
| kb9vqf | It's OK |
| kb9vqf | you can't |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | 90k isn't that bad in reality |
| kb9vqf | if we find a bottlenect we'll start redirecting initial checkouts to another server |
| kb9vqf | *bottleneck |
| kb9vqf | I just don't know enough about GIT to do that yet :-P |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | i keep forgetting if i have mentioned this |
| MutantTurkey | i started to mirror kde.org and am going to start mirroring our git |
| kb9vqf | yes you did |
| kb9vqf | when you have the git mirror please let me know |
| MutantTurkey | okay I will |
| MutantTurkey | now how do I not just mirror it, but allow other people to check out from me |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea :-P |
| MutantTurkey | I mean right now I am just cloning it into a directory on a cron job |
| kb9vqf | That might work |
| kb9vqf | As long as the entries for commit still point to *.trinitydesktop.org it should be OK |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I don't know D: |
| kb9vqf | Like I said my GIT knowledge is somewhat sparse still, so I'm playing it safe |
| kb9vqf | and having people check out straight from the main repo |
| MutantTurkey | is good |
| MutantTurkey | I am just doing it mostly for backups now |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| Xu_R | getting tired now - night all |
| kb9vqf | gn |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Did your git checkout complete yet? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: yes but the thing is I need to do it frequently |
| MutantTurkey | which is annoying |
| MutantTurkey | for some reason I cannot do --depth 1 |
| * kb9vqf was just curious | |
| MutantTurkey | to speed it up considerably. |
| MutantTurkey | do you know why that is? |
| kb9vqf | no, sorry |
| MutantTurkey | hrm |
| MutantTurkey | now i am erroring upon building qt34 |
| MutantTurkey | qt3' |
| kb9vqf | error? |
| MutantTurkey | uh |
| MutantTurkey | /home/calvin/trinity-tree/tde-packaging/arch/master/trinity-qt3/src/tde/main/dependencies/qt3/src/tools/qdir.cpp:45:28: fatal error: private/qdir_p.h: No such file or directory |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| kb9vqf | that is supposed to be a symlink |
| kb9vqf | hang on while I look at it |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: fixed |
| MutantTurkey | re pull? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | ok building works now ;) |
| MutantTurkey | could be easier than i thought |
| MutantTurkey | gotta figure out how to keep it in opt |
| MutantTurkey | just got to figure out how to package it right... |
| MutantTurkey | lied. |
| MutantTurkey | there are more errors |
| MutantTurkey | actually... no idea whats up |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I dunno. Ill work on it tomorrow |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: did you see the patches from Nix? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: seems that at least one of those patches wasn't in the main repo |
| Xu_R | oh, patchwork is down... |
| MutantTurkey | it doesn't matter |
| MutantTurkey | I just attached it |
| MutantTurkey | so we can still use it |
| Xu_R | I know. I was just saying in general. Did you also see the patches from Nix? |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: I told myself i would get up at like 8... didnt wake up till now haha |
| MutantTurkey | yes briefly while laying in bed |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: lol |
| MutantTurkey | they were tqt patches |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully fixing my problem |
| Xu_R | nice to see some patches floating into the mailing list |
| MutantTurkey | indeed. |
| MutantTurkey | i really want to be more of a hel |
| MutantTurkey | but until i get this system running triniy i am out of luck |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay, errors building qt3 now. ptrdiff_t does not name a type |
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| * kb9vqf forgot about patchwork | |
| kb9vqf | drat |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 486 filed by jsullivan@opensourcedevel.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=486 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KOrgac reading Zimbra calendars via caldav crash constantly for almost all users |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
| eldowan | y0 |
| Borg^Queen | y0 |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Patchwork is back online: http://patchwork.trinitydesktop.org/project/trinity/list/ |
| Borg^Queen | bbs |
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| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Patchwork did not catch your patch--did you attach it in plain text as requested earlier? |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Patchwork registration should be functionali |
| kb9vqf | *functional now |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: darn it, my first two attempts are still there - but my account is inactive... |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: I thought I deleted them |
| kb9vqf | let me take another look |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: OK, try again |
| Xu_R | ok, registered, and waiting for the registration email.... |
| Xu_R | hm, I may sound impatient, but the email isn't coming (same thing like before) |
| kb9vqf | really? |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | it should :-/ |
| Xu_R | :-\ |
| kb9vqf | BTW before there was no SMTP account so the Email program just failed |
| Xu_R | ah. |
| kb9vqf | As long as you did not receive an HTTP/500 error then the Email *should* have been sent |
| Xu_R | I didn't... :\ |
| kb9vqf | Of course there could also be a bug in Django/Patchwork |
| kb9vqf | who knows |
| Xu_R | hehe |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: i'll check it again in a bit, I have to bbl. |
| kb9vqf | OK |
| Xu_R | bbl |
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| MutantTurkey | o. |
| MutantTurkey | o/ |
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| MutantTurkey | hey guys |
| eldowan | yo MutantTurkey |
| eldowan | how's life? |
| MutantTurkey | eh |
| MutantTurkey | working and stuff |
| MutantTurkey | two jobs, lots of linux stuff, have a great girlfriend, my band is coming together. |
| MutantTurkey | things are looking pretty solid |
| ar | do you have any time left for sleep? |
| MutantTurkey | not at all |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't been sleeping enough |
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| eldowan | MutantTurkey: wow, that's a full plate and then some. |
| eldowan | what kind of band? what's your rold? |
| MutantTurkey | eldowan: uh sort of just like rock |
| MutantTurkey | well thats not totally accurate |
| MutantTurkey | but it's pretty close |
| MutantTurkey | I am singer and guitar player and going to be the bass player when we find a replacement guitarist |
| eldowan | oh nice. you guys just starting out, or you been in the scene for a while? |
| MutantTurkey | this band is just starting up |
| MutantTurkey | I was in a jam band earlier last year, and we had alot of cool material, but for some reason no one was motivated to gig at all. hence we just became a sort of jamband |
| MutantTurkey | but i have the keys player from the old band, a new guitarist, and potentially a new drummer |
| MutantTurkey | on top of that I am working on getting recordings done for other local bands |
| MutantTurkey | eldowan: check this single out, I did for a band called Clairvoyance, which has alot of my pals in it |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.facebook.com/clairvoyanceband?sk=app_178091127385 |
| MutantTurkey | listen to "button up" |
| eldowan | will do. |
| eldowan | what are you p laying here? |
| MutantTurkey | I producced it |
| MutantTurkey | mixed, setup the studio space |
| eldowan | gotcha |
| MutantTurkey | basically all the work to let the band just focus on the music |
| eldowan | they aren't bad. |
| MutantTurkey | not for a bunch of kids... |
| MutantTurkey | i think the quality is pretty good |
| MutantTurkey | would like to vocals to be a bit warmer oh well. |
| eldowan | eh, you can always remaster if you have the orig tracks. |
| MutantTurkey | I do. |
| MutantTurkey | but the vocals are just a tad crappy imho |
| MutantTurkey | I cleaned it up about a million times better |
| eldowan | ah, they don't seem to be the most steady, that's for sure. kinda seems he's a little sharp sounding (duno about flat / sharp, but i mean to my ears) |
| MutantTurkey | yes I hear ya |
| MutantTurkey | they also have like 3 people sining at once |
| MutantTurkey | towards the end |
| MutantTurkey | complicates fixing it |
| eldowan | so true |
| MutantTurkey | because it was done together |
| eldowan | oh, on the one track? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | but that was the only one I did they put up |
| MutantTurkey | the cracked glass demo is way worse quality, but whatever. |
| eldowan | buddy of mine turned his house into a studio, did it right. soundproofed everything, master control room, silent rooms, nice vocal booth. |
| eldowan | the entire 2nd floor is recording space, and his master bedroom is his mixing control room. |
| MutantTurkey | thats the plan |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | $30,000, a house and a decent ear = instant studio |
| MutantTurkey | my buddy actually works for a new label startup and thats what the guy did. |
| eldowan | oh nice. |
| eldowan | yeah, he's on his way to finishing it and trying to attract artists to record. |
| eldowan | he's also a /stellar/ musician, with contacts all over the city. so hopefully he does well. |
| MutantTurkey | sounds like my buy |
| MutantTurkey | guy' |
| MutantTurkey | Ace Enders? |
| MutantTurkey | 1 in a million chance... |
| MutantTurkey | ugh builing on a G5 Mac takes forever... |
| eldowan | nah, my guys is Cael. |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | either way something i'd like to do |
| eldowan | what region are you in anyway? we'er in the general Houston area. |
| MutantTurkey | Philidelphia |
| eldowan | ah, well that'd explain it. |
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| MutantTurkey | yeah :) |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| eldowan | yeah, can't wait for the day to be over. |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: WOAH, finally found the patchwork confi'rmation email. |
| Xu_R | it ended up in my spam |
| Xu_R | because the email has "example.com" in it... |
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| kb9vqf | example.com? |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
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| Borg^Queen | does anyone have time to help me figure out an error build mkvtools? |
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| eldowan | Borg^Queen: I dont' know how much /help/ i'll be... i usually install from apt |
| Borg^Queen | ok |
| Borg^Queen | I think I'm onto something hang ok |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Should be fixed (I hope) |
| Borg^Queen | ok it keeps saying checking for EBML... no |
| Borg^Queen | the libebml libs are installed to /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/include |
| Borg^Queen | this is the config line |
| Borg^Queen | ./configure --with-matroska-include=/usr/local/include/matroska \ |
| Borg^Queen | --with-matroska-lib=/usr/local/lib \ |
| Borg^Queen | --with-ebml-include=/usr/local/include \ |
| Borg^Queen | --with-ebml-lib=/usr/local/lib |
| Borg^Queen | clearly I'm doing something wrong since they are installed |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: what is the error |
| MutantTurkey | are your paths correct? verify that |
| Borg^Queen | checking for EBML... no |
| MutantTurkey | did you double check the paths? |
| Borg^Queen | that's the only error, not much feedback and yes, I checked the paths |
| Borg^Queen | but let me check again |
| MutantTurkey | is there an error file there? |
| MutantTurkey | not sure what it maybe be called, but look in the dir |
| Borg^Queen | checking |
| MutantTurkey | may have some specificis |
| Borg^Queen | yes they're correct |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | any error in the build files? |
| Borg^Queen | checking now |
| Borg^Queen | one error |
| Borg^Queen | conftest.cc: In function 'int main()': |
| Borg^Queen | conftest.cc:15: error: 'exit' was not declared in this scope |
| Borg^Queen | next |
| Borg^Queen | configure:3368: g++ -c -g -O2 conftest.cc >&5 |
| Borg^Queen | conftest.cc:11: error: 'void std::exit(int)' should have been declared inside 'std' |
| MutantTurkey | okay that seems unrelated to the includes |
| MutantTurkey | view the conftest.cc |
| Borg^Queen | I know but just in case |
| MutantTurkey | maybe thier test is failing to build... |
| MutantTurkey | look at the file |
| Borg^Queen | I see nothing |
| Borg^Queen | what files should I be looking at |
| Borg^Queen | it finds everything but that embl |
| MutantTurkey | hrm |
| MutantTurkey | no idea then :/ |
| Borg^Queen | aye |
| Borg^Queen | AH! find newer versions |
| Borg^Queen | hang on |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| Xu_R | back |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: works OK :D |
| * Xu_R is now going to start throwing SuSE patches up knowing they don't get lost. hopefully. | |
| MutantTurkey | any recommends on windows free laptops? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't want to pay the extra $150 for no reason. |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: They won't be lost |
| kb9vqf | tape backups are scheduled :) |
| Xu_R | :D |
| kb9vqf | just remember...plain text patches ONLY (as attachments preferred) |
| kb9vqf | no .gz stuff |
| MutantTurkey | no gz stuff? |
| Xu_R | I always paste the patch into the message itself. |
| * Xu_R never messes with attachments | |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I prefer that also |
| MutantTurkey | so you can review them in commenting back :) |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | and also so that patchwork will pick them up |
| kb9vqf | patchwork doesn't decompress tarballs due to the danger of a tarbomb |
| Borg^Queen | TAPE? |
| kb9vqf | it's actually better than disk |
| kb9vqf | lower BER |
| kb9vqf | higher reliability |
| kb9vqf | lower cost |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Xu_R | I'm actually going to use a different email address for emailing patches because it's easier for me to keep track |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| MutantTurkey | any laptop recommends? |
| * kb9vqf has had "good" "enterprise class" disks fail way too often | |
| kb9vqf | I used to recommend Lenovo but I think their stuff has gone down the sewer lately |
| Xu_R | Lenovo is still pretty good. |
| Xu_R | but yea, going down a bit faster than expected |
| Xu_R | how about Toshiba? |
| kb9vqf | The new stuff has a pretty high failure rate |
| Borg^Queen | lenovo rocks |
| * Xu_R thinks Toshiba is good | |
| kb9vqf | Stay far away from Toshiba IMHO |
| Borg^Queen | toshiba is very anti foss |
| Xu_R | ah. figures. |
| * Xu_R only used Toshiba with windows | |
| Borg^Queen | I don't like toshiba, had business dealings with them, horrorible company |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I am thinking a stinkpad actually... |
| MutantTurkey | i like lenovo they are troopers |
| Xu_R | stinkpad LOL |
| kb9vqf | My r61 just keeps going...and going... |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| eldowan | stinkpad indeed |
| MutantTurkey | well that name is obviously applied joking. |
| kb9vqf | also my T400 |
| MutantTurkey | because they are the #1 trusted brand for buisnesses. |
| Xu_R | ah, my cousin has a T400. It broke in China, and we got it fixed pretty quickly |
| Xu_R | :D |
| eldowan | we had almost every one of our old t41 era ones failed. |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: my old ibm "stink" pad has been puked on by babies, thrown down a flight of stairs, and still works perfectly |
| eldowan | Borg^Queen: really? we had almost the exact opposite experience |
| MutantTurkey | so I am thinking a stinkpad then. |
| Borg^Queen | eldowan: ? |
| Xu_R | only yours, Borg^Queen, will ever face torture like that |
| eldowan | w/ the stinkpads |
| kb9vqf | My r61 has had water dropped on it, it's been sat on, and it still works great |
| Borg^Queen | Xu_R: wait til you have kids |
| MutantTurkey | really that bad of luck? eldowan |
| eldowan | we had over 15 fail |
| eldowan | and didn't even have 30 total |
| Borg^Queen | I and curse you with a dozen kids |
| Borg^Queen | eldowan: consumer or industrial machines |
| kb9vqf | the new ones eldowan? |
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| Borg^Queen | there's a HUGE differenece |
| eldowan | Borg^Queen: business class, old IBM |
| Xu_R | Borg^Queen: LOL. |
| eldowan | kb9vqf ^ |
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| Xu_R | how wonderful. |
| MutantTurkey | hummmm weird. got disconnected |
| eldowan | kb9vqf: gotta quick question about trinity for ya, fi you have the time |
| MutantTurkey | anyway, experience with lenevo is positive? |
| Borg^Queen | eldowan: if they run windows, they were not industrial grade |
| Xu_R | lenovo = :D |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: very positive. I even called them and ended up talking to 5 techs at once |
| eldowan | Borg^Queen: aah, yeah, those were all old xp boxes |
| MutantTurkey | excellent |
| Borg^Queen | eldowan: not industrial grade |
| MutantTurkey | specifically which ones? |
| Borg^Queen | Generally the ones over 1k US with a 3 year warranty |
| eldowan | ours? t40 t41 t42 IIRC |
| Borg^Queen | the 1 year ones are consumers |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: I don't need warranty. |
| Borg^Queen | Ihave a t40 |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: and you don't need a helmet or hand rails |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: statistically not worth it... |
| kb9vqf | warranty is a good thing.... |
| Borg^Queen | aye |
| MutantTurkey | statistically warrantys are not worth it. |
| kb9vqf | yes they are for one reason: infant death |
| Borg^Queen | I have a t30 that was beaten to death, new HD and BOOM working for 5 years and going |
| kb9vqf | there is more and more infant death due to lower QC at the factory |
| kb9vqf | no warranty == SOL |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: rreally? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | its funny |
| MutantTurkey | because normal companies will just give you a warranty and service |
| MutantTurkey | only computer ones are assholes and charge extra... |
| kb9vqf | don't get me started on the new "enterprise" hard disks I tried to purchase |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| Borg^Queen | a computer is most likely to fail within 60 days of initial operation |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | that's "infant death" |
| Borg^Queen | aye exactly |
| MutantTurkey | then an included 1 year warrenty is nbest. |
| Borg^Queen | if you get a industrial grade one, it will have linux and a 3 y war |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: link please |
| kb9vqf | I can personally recommend up to the T400 series |
| Borg^Queen | a small Chinese man like Xu_R will follow you around of you get the special package |
| kb9vqf | after that things get dicey |
| Borg^Queen | t400 yes |
| MutantTurkey | 420? |
| kb9vqf | sounds like a consumer model |
| MutantTurkey | they have a $700 sale. |
| MutantTurkey | i mean.... |
| Borg^Queen | avoid, the lowend and extremely high end |
| MutantTurkey | 1750 vs 1000 |
| kb9vqf | get the one with the mil-spec testing :) |
| Xu_R | t400 ftw |
| kb9vqf | the T400 had that testing and it just keeps going |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to take the train, we can talk more when i get home |
| Borg^Queen | agreed |
| Xu_R | Borg^Queen: I'm freaking 6ft2... |
| Borg^Queen | k be safe |
| Xu_R | well, almost. like 6ft1... |
| Borg^Queen | Xu_R: ahh industrial grade chinese |
| Xu_R | ...-_- |
| Borg^Queen | Wait I thought you were mexican |
| MutantTurkey | t400 seems to be the older core2 models |
| MutantTurkey | i need one with the i3 i5 i7 series |
| Borg^Queen | yes, but its rock solid |
| MutantTurkey | anyway gotta go! |
| MutantTurkey | thanks! |
| Borg^Queen | k |
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| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| MutantTurkey | night |
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| alexbobp | I'm running trinity on debian |
| alexbobp | one time I caught nepomuk using up 3GB of ram |
| alexbobp | so I was wondering what nepomuk is for and how I can get rid of it if it's not important |
| Xu_R | alexbobp: nepomuk is part of kde4. |
| Xu_R | you can remove it freely via your package manager. |
| alexbobp | ah okay |
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| eldowan | alexbobp: when I log into my squeeze box I kill nepomuk and plasma-netbook and don't ahve any memory issues. if you remove nepomuk I think it may take all of kde4 away. I know that removing plasma-netbook wants to. |
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| backwoodsman | hi all.. any chance of binaries being made for Debian Testing? I'd like to install Trinity on Mint Debian, but it's based on Testing, and the Squeeze binaries won't install due to unresolved dependencies. |
| kb9vqf | working on compilation tests for Maverick now...binaries would be built after those are successful |
| backwoodsman | Maverick? I thought those were already available. In any case, would that work on Mint Debian? |
| kb9vqf | yes--for 3.5.12 |
| kb9vqf | I'm tackling one problem at a time |
| kb9vqf | by using a known-sane build environment I can know for certain that any problems I run into are a direct result of source changes from 3.5.12 to the current source HEAD revisions |
| kb9vqf | once the code is known-good then I will build against other environments that may or may not work properly the first tiem |
| kb9vqf | *time |
| kb9vqf | and know that any problems I run into there are caused by the new environment, not fundamental flaws in the source code |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| backwoodsman | sounds good.. I'll try the Maverick binaries on Mint 11, I believe that should work. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | let us know if they work or not |
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| backwoodsman | Neither Maverick nor Debian Squeeze install instructions work on Linux Mint 11, due to broken dependencies. |
| backwoodsman | I guess I'll have to grit my teeth and install Ubuntu :) |
| alexbobp | eldowan|afk: well... I'm A-OK with taking all of KDE 4 away :P |
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| joeytwiddle | i still use XMMS too. it rocks! |
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| eldowan|afk | alexbobp: good deal. both the netbook-plasma and nepokserver are in /usr/bin and I just mv <> <>.old and they don't start at all. I do like some of hte kde4 apps, so I may keep it around a bit. |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Keep adding patches to Patchwork... |
| * kb9vqf has already handled quite a few: http://patchwork.trinitydesktop.org/project/trinity/list/?state=* | |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: nice! :D |
| Xu_R | hmm... darn it - seems like patchwork mishandled some of my patches :-\ |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| Xu_R | ex. http://patchwork.trinitydesktop.org/patch/19/ it didn't get the whole patch |
| Xu_R | the top half it got, the bottom half is still in the email message... |
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| mk_MP | Hi, is there anyone else active on the channel except robots? |
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| mk_MP | Hi, Borg^Queen, are you a bot or not? |
| Borg^Queen | Of course I'm a bot |
| mk_MP | Good. :-) |
| * Borg^Queen assimilates mk_MP | |
| mk_MP | I am new to this channel and on the search for information... |
| Borg^Queen | Ah ok shoot |
| mk_MP | Trying to incorporate knowledge from the Borg. |
| mk_MP | :-) |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| mk_MP | Look, I only learnt about trinity project today. |
| mk_MP | Any I am impressed. |
| Borg^Queen | Its a great project, and getting better all the time. More and more distros are picking it up. |
| mk_MP | I wondered whether trinity includes also QT3 and not only KDE3... |
| Borg^Queen | It does |
| mk_MP | I see. |
| mk_MP | That sounds interesting indeed. |
| Borg^Queen | it is |
| mk_MP | Look, there is the idea to include trinity in MacPorts for Mac OS X. |
| Borg^Queen | Sweet |
| mk_MP | At the moment there is qt3 and qt3-mac available and also kde3... |
| Borg^Queen | kb9vqf: is the founder, he would be very interested in this |
| mk_MP | but there seems to be reoccuring trouble now. |
| Borg^Queen | trouble? |
| mk_MP | I learnt from a friend who recently upgraded to Lion with Xcode 4.1 that now (after selfupdateing and upgrading MacPorts) qt3 won't build anymore. |
| Borg^Queen | sounds like a bug in the recent update |
| Borg^Queen | report it to macports |
| mk_MP | This is a real pain, since up to now KDE3 had always been our safety net with respect to KMyMoney. |
| Borg^Queen | good app kmymoney |
| mk_MP | KMyMoney4 on KDE4 is still having loads of trouble. |
| Borg^Queen | what are the error msgs? |
| Borg^Queen | everything in kde4 is having loads of trouble |
| mk_MP | So, KMyMoney 1.0.5 was always a safe fallback solution. |
| Borg^Queen | agreed |
| mk_MP | With a broken qt3 port this would be gone. |
| mk_MP | For me |
| mk_MP | on Snow Leopart |
| mk_MP | all is still okay |
| Borg^Queen | hmm |
| mk_MP | but my friend's machine is bonked with respect to KDE3. |
| mk_MP | So, |
| mk_MP | the idea was to get trinity up and running via MacPorts. |
| mk_MP | I saw from your webpage that there are only Linuxes up to now supported. |
| Borg^Queen | kb9vqf: is the man to speak to, he's the founder and who know far more about fixing it than I would |
| mk_MP | But I think it would be really worthwhile to get it to life on Mac OSX, since it has evolved quite a bit since the 3.3.8 currently in qt3 port on MacPorts. |
| mk_MP | OK, I wonder how I could contact kb9vqf... |
| Borg^Queen | agreed |
| Borg^Queen | hang on |
| mk_MP | will do |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Submit your patches as attachments |
| kb9vqf | BTW I'm here :) |
| kb9vqf | I have NO mac experience whatsoever |
| mk_MP | Hi kb9vqf, good to see you here! |
| mk_MP | Great project!!! |
| kb9vqf | file a bug at http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net with the compilation error message and I'll see if anything stands out :) |
| kb9vqf | thanks! |
| Borg^Queen | oih there he is |
| mk_MP | Well, I don't know whether I'll be able to contribute really. but I'd try to get it to build here on the Mac. |
| kb9vqf | we do maintain Qt3 so there is half a chance that I may be able to help |
| mk_MP | Ah, ok, also for qt3 |
| kb9vqf | I can't build it on a mac here (obviously) but if you provide the build logs I may be able to see what can be fixed |
| Borg^Queen | kb9vqf: mac is a unix os (darwin) running a similair to kde3 UI |
| mk_MP | Great. Good to be in touch then. |
| kb9vqf | Borg_Queen: I know :) |
| Borg^Queen | ah ok |
| kb9vqf | but as far as hands on experience...well |
| mk_MP | Yep, I'll use your bug tracker then. :-) Very good. |
| Borg^Queen | kb9vqf: aye |
| * kb9vqf counted clicks for common tasks on one once--that's it :) | |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| kb9vqf | mk_MP: Sounds good |
| mk_MP | Is there a tarball avilable for download for trinity? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.12 is on the main page |
| mk_MP | Couldn't find the right link on the main page. Must have been blind. |
| kb9vqf | hmmm...maybe it used to be there and isn't anymore |
| * kb9vqf goes to look | |
| mk_MP | Please do, there are only instruction, release notes and that is it. |
| kb9vqf | It's under the Releases tab |
| mk_MP | Ah, ok |
| kb9vqf | click 3.5.12 and there will be a tarball download like |
| mk_MP | Found it. |
| kb9vqf | *link |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| mk_MP | Would be better to have a more direct path to it. :-) |
| kb9vqf | it is not obvious at all apparently :-P |
| kb9vqf | Maybe "Downloads" would be better than "Releases" |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| mk_MP | Yep |
| kb9vqf | OK |
| * kb9vqf goes to change it now | |
| mk_MP | OK, I wonder what packages I'd need to get a running qt3 plus basic kde3, so that I'd be able to build kmymoney on to of that. |
| kb9vqf | fixed :) |
| mk_MP | I don't see a qt3 package anywhere... |
| kb9vqf | qt3, arts, kdelibs, kmymoney |
| kb9vqf | qt3 is in our GIT repository |
| mk_MP | Again I am blind |
| mk_MP | Oh |
| kb9vqf | you caught us in the middle of a move to GIT |
| mk_MP | THat's not obvious from the releases page |
| kb9vqf | no it is not |
| mk_MP | I see. |
| kb9vqf | as of the 3.5.12 release we were NOT maintaining qt3 |
| mk_MP | I'd like to have a tarball here as well. |
| mk_MP | YOu are not? |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.12 was released a while ago |
| mk_MP | I thought you did as well, as being part of kde3/trinity?! |
| kb9vqf | we decided to maintain qt3 after 3.5.12 was released |
| mk_MP | Ah |
| mk_MP | ok |
| kb9vqf | make sense? |
| mk_MP | yep |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: oh - nah, I like them inline in the end :P besides, it didn't catch MutantTurkey's when he sent his as an attachment |
| kb9vqf | it didn't make it into the 3.5.12 release notes for obvious reasons ;-) |
| mk_MP | So, I need a tarball of it as well. |
| kb9vqf | hang on |
| kb9vqf | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=tree&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment&hb=HEAD&f=main/dependencies/qt3 |
| kb9vqf | There is a link at the bottom for a .tar.gz file |
| mk_MP | OK, see it |
| kb9vqf | this stuff is not publicly documented yet because 3.5.13 is not yet released |
| mk_MP | No release number is actually connected with it... |
| kb9vqf | right |
| mk_MP | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=archive&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment&h=4116ba197904ebc0b37d7c2d4cef71d58aec6649&t=targz |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.13 should come out in the fall if all goes well |
| mk_MP | I see... |
| mk_MP | Hmm... |
| kb9vqf | then there will be more extensive release notes, including coverage of our qt3 repo |
| mk_MP | OK, |
| kb9vqf | as of right now qt3 is at version 3.3.8d |
| kb9vqf | but that is not a final release |
| mk_MP | ok. qt3-mac is at 3.3.8b, I think. |
| kb9vqf | if you find bugs while compiling qt3 please let us know |
| kb9vqf | and we will attempt to fix the problems and include them in the official 3.3.8d release |
| mk_MP | OK, I'll try to download the stuff and try to build it here. |
| kb9vqf | include the patches that is :) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| mk_MP | OK, you 've to give me time though. I'm not the official maintainer of the qt3 port on MacPorts and have at first to figure out whether I can easily replace the current tarball against your modified one. |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| mk_MP | Once I've set it up I'll report back to you. |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | Email on the mailing list may be easiest |
| mk_MP | Shall I use the bug tracker for communication with you |
| mk_MP | or ML |
| mk_MP | OK |
| kb9vqf | trinity-devel or the bugtracker |
| mk_MP | I see ML is best. |
| mk_MP | I prefer ML |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| mk_MP | for discussions |
| mk_MP | bt for bug. |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | keeps it organized and neat :) |
| mk_MP | OK, thatnks for now!!! |
| mk_MP | Was great to talk to you!!!! |
| kb9vqf | thanks, and thanks for offering to help in this area! |
| mk_MP | Thanks for your help so far, I'll come back to you through the list and perhaps also using IRC. |
| mk_MP | You are welcome. :-) |
| mk_MP | OK, have to go to bed now. |
| mk_MP | Bye!!! |
| kb9vqf | see ya |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| mk_MP | :-) |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: I have no idea why patchwork is eating inline patches |
| kb9vqf | It's not my code after all :-// |
| kb9vqf | maybe you want to ask upstream to the maintainer? |
| kb9vqf | Also mac support sounds good |
| kb9vqf | I was wondering if kmymoney was really that bad under KDE4...I guess it is! :-P |
| kb9vqf | BTW kmymoney is in our source tree as of a few weeks ago |
| * kb9vqf listens to the droning of crickets | |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I think it's because I didn't format the email message correctly >_> |
| kb9vqf | well, don't do that :-P |
| kb9vqf | Which ones are corrupt |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | I'll mark them as rejected |
| Xu_R | both of them, actually - (the ones with "Patches at Lincom" as the submitter) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Xu_R | I'll resubmit them |
| kb9vqf | Ah, even better I was able to delete them |
| kb9vqf | so submit away |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | now to see if patchwork caught it. |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Also, any chance that I can get some help with fixing the bugs on the bugtracker....?? |
| Xu_R | sure |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.13 is blocked on that |
| kb9vqf | and by help I mean that you guys puck a bug, fix it, and send a patch in to the bug report :) |
| kb9vqf | *pick |
| kb9vqf | I'm pretty busy on this end keeping up with the patches and fixing glitches that are not reported to the bugtracker yet |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | also starting Natty builds, which will undoubtedly reveal a mass of steaming gcc4.6 problems |
| Xu_R | ah, fun. |
| Xu_R | i'll check for any gcc46 patches I can find |
| * kb9vqf is not looking forward to it | |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | Here's another fun Qt4-related glitch |
| kb9vqf | /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../lib/libtqassistantclient.a: could not read symbols: Bad value |
| Xu_R | >_> |
| kb9vqf | Only happens on kdevelop, and only on amd64 :-P |
| Xu_R | oh god, that sucks |
| kb9vqf | On the plus side I successfully built our Qt3.3.8d code under Debian |
| kb9vqf | with only 4 patches needed :) |
| kb9vqf | (Debian/Ubuntu specific patches) |
| kb9vqf | sure beats the several dozen (!) that were originally required |
| Xu_R | nice. |
| Xu_R | D: wow. patchwork didn't catch my media-crypt_teardown.diff patch but caught the security one... |
| * kb9vqf goes to investigate | |
| Xu_R | oh, and it messed up the patch inline again. |
| * Xu_R sighs and gives up for now | |
| kb9vqf | beats me :;/ |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: you already have the patches anyway, so i'm assuming it's thunderbird that's screwing me up |
| kb9vqf | as I said...attach them.... |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: it didn't catch MutantTurkey's ODBC patch that he didn't attach inline D: |
| kb9vqf | grrr |
| kb9vqf | I don't have the patience or time to pick through the ML to find patches |
| Xu_R | >_> |
| Xu_R | I know... |
| kb9vqf | If patchwork isn't working can you post the URLs to the patches in the ML archives on an Etherpad? |
| Xu_R | sure |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
| Xu_R | np |
| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
| Xu_R | nite borgy |
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| Piki | hi |
| Piki | kb9vqf, doesn't tbottu like being a tyrant? :-D |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | not anymore |
| kb9vqf | not after his brain transplant |
| Piki | transplant? |
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| kb9vqf | I switched bots, as mozbot was not reliable enough |
| kb9vqf | he may become a tyrant again if login abilities are desired on this channel...time will tell |
| Piki | what bot are you using now? |
| Piki | the trinity-users ML is listed as high traffic, but it has fewer posts for july than trintiy-devel, which is listed as moderate :-P |
| kb9vqf | yes, I did notice that |
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| hazridi | I just installed network-manager-kde-trinity (I'm running squeeze) and it doesn't seem to function. My wifi card is working properly and I can set it up manually or with ceni. |
| hazridi | nevermind -- it was unmanaged due to being in /etc/network/interfaces |
| hazridi | now trinity is pretty much KDE 3, but perfect |
| kb9vqf | Glad to hear it :) |
| hazridi | spoke a little too soon, as it doesn't seem to want to connect to either of my APs... cnetworkmanager is working though |
| kb9vqf | I assume you restarted your machine after removing the interface from /etc/network/interfaces? |
| kb9vqf | if not sometimes networkmanager gets confused |
| hazridi | I restarted network-manager... using cnetworkmanager (cli interface to n-m) it connected OK |
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| Xu_R | meep~~ |
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| s15y2 | Hi, would this bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124053 be hard to solve in trinity? |
| tbottu | 04Bug 124053: was not found. |
| s15y2 | "Having hundreds of feeds renders akregator useless." |
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| Borg^Queen | Entities |
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| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| MutantTurkey | hey all |
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| Xu_R | soo... what happened to tbottu? XD it looks like it had spazzing moments |
| kb9vqf | I was getting messages in the logs requesting that I authenticate to Freenode.... |
| kb9vqf | so I had to set up the authentication plugin |
| kb9vqf | that little process required several reloads |
| Xu_R | ah. |
| Xu_R | looks like tbottu is dictator again then... |
| kb9vqf | obviously it's working then :) |
| kb9vqf | if people here don't like it I can probably deop him, but personally I don't see the harm |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| MutantTurkey | I think he's good here. |
| Xu_R | keep him :P |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Any progress on that "developers portal" page for the Website? |
| kb9vqf | Or some bug fixes? :-) |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: You too regarding the bug fixes... |
| kb9vqf | Maybe someone can look at that oh-so-stale BOTW in the topic? |
| * kb9vqf is trying to keep things moving along.... | |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: honestly I am trying to pull some free time together for it |
| kb9vqf | ok, sounds good |
| MutantTurkey | I still am working on getting it all built. |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| MutantTurkey | which makes me wonder if i should just do a debian install on another box to test and build trinity... |
| kb9vqf | I'm also starting builds under Natty, so gcc4.6 issues should be resolved soon |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: many of the bugs on that bugtracker I'm not reproducing... which leads me to wonder if system is working right. |
| Xu_R | *if my system |
| kb9vqf | If you are not reproducing them flag that on the bug report |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: was I supposed to create the page? D: okay! :p |
| kb9vqf | it is possible (likely even) that some of the more recent changes I put into SVN fixed some of the obscure bugs |
| kb9vqf | that could have been caused by memory corruption |
| kb9vqf | kdesktop was leaking like a sieve on later gcc versions |
| kb9vqf | that has been fixed |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I'm planning on reinstalling my trinity VM ASAP, so I'll try to see if I can reproduce the bugs again |
| kb9vqf | good |
| kb9vqf | If neither you nor MutantTurkey can reproduce a bug mark it as RESOLVED/INVALID and state that you cannot reporoduce it |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: so the whole kdesktop problem is fixed in the svn right? |
| kb9vqf | Also ask the reporter to verify that he can reproduce it under the latest GIT |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Yes! |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: sweet. |
| kb9vqf | valgrind was helpful |
| kb9vqf | but it still took quite a while |
| MutantTurkey | I think i am going to clock out and get back to work |
| kb9vqf | the problems were obscure |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | on trinity |
| MutantTurkey | wow its thundering and storming like crazy all of a sudden |
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| eldowan | oh, nice |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: so you are also using tde-packaging right? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | this git problem is a pain in the arse |
| MutantTurkey | the not being able to clone only parts of the tree |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: question abotu that odbc patch |
| kb9vqf | yes? |
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| kb9vqf | looks like I got bumped off |
| kb9vqf | what was your question? |
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| MutantTurkey | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0s::2714 |
| MutantTurkey | piccoro said something, I have no idea what though. |
| kb9vqf | If that is the same patch I am thinking of, yes, it was applied to the Qt3 branch in GIT |
| kb9vqf | not sure though, and I'm not going to go picking through random tarballs to find out! |
| MutantTurkey | mine or his? |
| MutantTurkey | mine was a few lines |
| MutantTurkey | updates a few defintions thats all |
| kb9vqf | his |
| kb9vqf | is yours not in GIT? |
| MutantTurkey | thats why I sent it in to see... |
| kb9vqf | link please? |
| kb9vqf | if it was in patchwork I probably already processed it |
| kb9vqf | BTW did I mention how much I hate Qt4? http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=commit&p=Trinity%%20Desktop%%20Environment&h=a7b8e6024196412a8849d00f68c01512dbf80e37 |
| MutantTurkey | Invalid Project? |
| MutantTurkey | link is a no go |
| MutantTurkey | well, qt3 is building so far :) so hopefully that's one thing out of the way |
| kb9vqf | invalid project? |
| kb9vqf | on the git link I just posted? |
| MutantTurkey | yes. |
| kb9vqf | hmm, you're right |
| MutantTurkey | I see it though |
| MutantTurkey | I looked at it by the commit md5 or whatever |
| MutantTurkey | Nokia is seriously dropping the ball lately. |
| kb9vqf | Try this |
| kb9vqf | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=commit&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment&h=a7b8e6024196412a8849d00f68c01512dbf80e37 |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I got it. but that's ridiculous |
| kb9vqf | I mean seriously, what's so hard about making sure that a double is actually a *double* so that comparisons work?!? |
| MutantTurkey | Qt4 seems less and less viable haha. |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: did you report it? |
| kb9vqf | no, because I don't have time to put together a test case |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| kb9vqf | and I saw a couple bugs already |
| kb9vqf | along those lines |
| kb9vqf | Nokia's answer: "Tough rocks" |
| kb9vqf | (paraphrased) |
| kb9vqf | actually they went on about how double is an approximation |
| kb9vqf | and this is to be expected |
| kb9vqf | all I know is that behaviour like that is going to break a lot of code bery subtly |
| kb9vqf | *very |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| kb9vqf | In this case (TQString("3.3").toDouble() > 3.3) was returning TRUE! |
| MutantTurkey | yeah they are dumb. |
| MutantTurkey | how is "approximately" large? |
| MutantTurkey | larger than? |
| kb9vqf | I know |
| kb9vqf | this worked: |
| kb9vqf | In this case (TQString("3.2999999999").toDouble() > 3.3) was returning TRUE! |
| kb9vqf | that is, (TQString("3.2999999999").toDouble() > 3.3) returned false |
| kb9vqf | as it is supposed to |
| MutantTurkey | oh man |
| kb9vqf | and only on i386...and only on gcc4.6.... |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| kb9vqf | (i.e. Ubuntu Natty i386) |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Can you check this again? |
| kb9vqf | rsync rsync://rsync.pearsoncomputing.net |
| kb9vqf | I'm getting complaints of failure on the QuickBuild IP address again |
| kb9vqf | yet the mirrors synced up normally this morning (???) |
| MutantTurkey | also, if you want to make me a package mirror I could do that. |
| MutantTurkey | I am getting nothing. |
| MutantTurkey | it is just hnaging |
| kb9vqf | great |
| kb9vqf | /sarcasm |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| kb9vqf | Now I get to wonder if my ISP is throttling/disconnecting that port or if I had something fail |
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| Xu_R | sorry for that random d/c |
| Xu_R | windows is so lovely. |
| MutantTurkey | honestly the windows desktop experience IMHO is way ahead of linux right now |
| MutantTurkey | for regular users. |
| Xu_R | I know... |
| Xu_R | but the stability can kiss my @$$ |
| MutantTurkey | yeah seriously |
| * kb9vqf reminds MutantTurkey of Windows 8 | |
| MutantTurkey | windows 8? |
| kb9vqf | ick ick ick |
| Xu_R | AHHHH WINDOWS 8 *dies* |
| kb9vqf | google it |
| Xu_R | that new interface makes vista nice |
| MutantTurkey | hahah |
| * kb9vqf knows *gag* | |
| Xu_R | nice to know i'm not the only one thinking that XD |
| kb9vqf | unlike Linux, there is no Windows 7 UI fork possible... |
| kb9vqf | Linux may show its strengths ye |
| kb9vqf | *yet |
| Xu_R | hopefully |
| MutantTurkey | so... |
| MutantTurkey | It's like the windows 7 phone |
| kb9vqf | well, I like to think I am in control of my desktop, and that just won't do it |
| kb9vqf | I never feel fully in control of a cell phone :-P |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: yup |
| MutantTurkey | wow. |
| MutantTurkey | so is it for a desktop or not? |
| kb9vqf | yes, that's their new desktop |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| kb9vqf | that and they want all people to program desktop apps in HTML5 and JavaScript |
| kb9vqf | no C/C++/etc. allowe |
| kb9vqf | *allowed |
| MutantTurkey | what about C#? |
| kb9vqf | No |
| MutantTurkey | really? |
| Xu_R | they want .net to die too now... |
| kb9vqf | Nothing but HTML5 and JavaScript |
| MutantTurkey | that was like a big microsot thing |
| MutantTurkey | wow |
| MutantTurkey | I mean this doesn't feel like a pc |
| * kb9vqf thinks there will probably be a 6-figure cost for the "developers edition" | |
| MutantTurkey | it's all touch based? |
| kb9vqf | yeah |
| Xu_R | they expect all the PCs to be touch now |
| kb9vqf | Now I am so glad that I don't do that Windows thing |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah seriosuly |
| Xu_R | XD |
| MutantTurkey | this is great for linux! |
| Xu_R | I still need windows for apps... D: |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: no you wont |
| Xu_R | (thank god for virtualbox full screen mode) |
| MutantTurkey | all windows apps are going to be javascript + html. |
| MutantTurkey | so they will be cross platform... |
| Xu_R | I mean current apps |
| Xu_R | that aren't JS/HTML |
| kb9vqf | this sounds suspiciously like limiting the ability to generate new content |
| kb9vqf | == big bucks paid to the few who have the tools to generate new content |
| Xu_R | it sounds like Apple. |
| kb9vqf | and I mean quality "AAA" content |
| Xu_R | true. |
| MutantTurkey | but you can still get to the old shell right? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: we're doubting that right now |
| kb9vqf | not for long if M$ follows its history |
| kb9vqf | general purpose computing, where everyone has the tools to develop new things, seems to be going away |
| kb9vqf | it's sad really |
| MutantTurkey | time for linux to rise :) |
| Xu_R | I hope so :D |
| MutantTurkey | not the way gnome3 is going... |
| kb9vqf | hence this project |
| MutantTurkey | they did the same thing as windows 8 |
| MutantTurkey | I think xfce4 and triinty are the only two really good ones. |
| kb9vqf | "Want to be a CREATOR, not just a CONSUMER?" |
| MutantTurkey | as far as DE's |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | we need a slogan |
| MutantTurkey | I wish xfce was a bit more flxible. |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: the only nice thing about GNOME 3 is extensions that allow you to completely change it (and make it gnome 2) |
| MutantTurkey | I think that the "app" idea could come to trinity but i don't see how |
| MutantTurkey | without bloating it up |
| MutantTurkey | I DO like the windows 8 shell they showed for maybe using on a mobile phone or a television screen |
| MutantTurkey | but not for a PC though |
| Xu_R | agreed. |
| kb9vqf | app idea? |
| kb9vqf | what specifically? |
| Xu_R | how about extensions? |
| kb9vqf | to do what? |
| Xu_R | actually, scratch that for now. I'm not thinking right |
| * kb9vqf notes that the framework for "extensions" is probably already there | |
| * Xu_R is reinstalling trinity as we speak | |
| kb9vqf | in fact the entire UI theming system is a type of "extension" |
| Xu_R | oh? |
| MutantTurkey | right that would be cool |
| MutantTurkey | kde3 is all module-ized |
| MutantTurkey | right? |
| MutantTurkey | like even with kparts and such |
| kb9vqf | yes it is |
| kb9vqf | so I ask again: |
| kb9vqf | what do you mean by extensions? |
| kb9vqf | what new functionality did you want to see? |
| MutantTurkey | I am not sure what he means |
| MutantTurkey | social networking extensions would be great |
| Xu_R | what I meant by extensions is like what GNOME Shell did - to customize the interface. that's why I said scratch that for now |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| kb9vqf | because we have that |
| kb9vqf | there's even a theme to make a pretty good copy of OSX |
| Xu_R | yup. |
| * kb9vqf is not into social networking | |
| MutantTurkey | I know :P |
| kb9vqf | but if one of you wanted to work on such a thing... :) |
| kb9vqf | I would almost suggest that those functions should not be part of the desktop core like KDE4 |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| kb9vqf | but rather be added to Kopete/Kontact or some other systray resident app |
| kb9vqf | or even a new systray app |
| MutantTurkey | good thinking |
| Xu_R | just curious - have any of you also tried GNOME shell already? |
| kb9vqf | that's the sad thing: KDE4 requires you to interrupt your workflow and go to a widget embedded in the desktop, whereas the old systray model allows the user to receive/handle notifications without much interruption-- |
| Xu_R | (and the extensions system?) |
| kb9vqf | click and the window is up, click again and it's gone |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: no I have not |
| kb9vqf | and probably will not |
| MutantTurkey | less interuption is avorable |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: I have. |
| kb9vqf | avorable? |
| Xu_R | avorable? |
| MutantTurkey | favorable. |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | that's the Trinity model |
| * Xu_R agrees | |
| kb9vqf | in fact, the "docked apps" crud nowdays is just the systray model applied to arbitrary apps |
| kb9vqf | we could do that with probably a few hundred lines of code or less |
| MutantTurkey | yeah good thinking |
| kb9vqf | but why? |
| kb9vqf | it takes effort to design a good systray app |
| MutantTurkey | if its not useful, then we shouldn't do it. |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | IMO that's what the taskbar is for ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | I do think a certain amount of "new" stuff is good in a release! |
| kb9vqf | of course! |
| kb9vqf | but let's make it good new stuff |
| kb9vqf | not rehashing old ideas |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| kb9vqf | something sorely lacking is the equivalent of the Windows display control center |
| kb9vqf | that does not exist under ANY linux DE AFAIK |
| Xu_R | when you mean display control center |
| MutantTurkey | display control? |
| Xu_R | you're talking like the drivers, screen resolution? |
| MutantTurkey | I mean xfce has it |
| kb9vqf | really? |
| kb9vqf | cool |
| MutantTurkey | hold up |
| kb9vqf | hng on |
| MutantTurkey | let me get a screen |
| MutantTurkey | http://imagebin.org/164847 |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know how it handles multiple monitors or anything ( i don't know much about how it works, and only have one screen) |
| Xu_R | I'm thinking kb9vqf means more like options that you can only find by modifying Xorg.conf...? |
| MutantTurkey | Xorg.conf doesn't exist anymore doesi t? |
| MutantTurkey | I know at least archlinux dropped it by default... |
| Xu_R | it's dropped by default, but you can still use it (Xorg.conf.d) and sometimes autoconfiguration doesn't work well |
| Xu_R | I know it's one reason that openSUSE went to work on making SaX3 (xorg config tool) |
| MutantTurkey | and doesn't kde4 have a decent one? |
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| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Try the GIT now |
| kb9vqf | mdadm decided to reconstruct the array on /dev/sdx instead of /dev/sdx1 :-P |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: is the keyserver up? |
| kb9vqf | Dunno yet |
| kb9vqf | mdadm gave enough of a scare that I haven't checked |
| Xu_R | ah. |
| kb9vqf | try the rsync |
| kb9vqf | rsync rsync://rsync.pearsoncomputing.net |
| kb9vqf | if that works then they keyserver will be up shortly |
| kb9vqf | *the |
| Xu_R | i'm not supposed to be getting timeouts, right? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| Xu_R | (both keyserver and rsync report a timeout) |
| kb9vqf | grrr |
| MutantTurkey | rsync hangs |
| MutantTurkey | git is up |
| kb9vqf | good |
| kb9vqf | rsync is on the malfunctioning interface |
| kb9vqf | the one that prompted the reboot |
| kb9vqf | I'll have to look into it further |
| Xu_R | ah... |
| Xu_R | i'm guessing the malfunctioning interface is quickbuild? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | BUT |
| kb9vqf | it was working just fine this morning |
| kb9vqf | and all indications are it still works from this end |
| kb9vqf | so I'm wondering if my ISP is actually having the problem ATM |
| MutantTurkey | did you call them? |
| Xu_R | probably. do they have a status page? |
| kb9vqf | no time yet |
| kb9vqf | still working on bringing services up from the reboot |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Xu_R | ah. |
| kb9vqf | i'll let you guys know when I know something |
| Xu_R | ok |
| MutantTurkey | qt is building away. |
| Xu_R | brb early dinner |
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| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey, Xu_R: Back online |
| kb9vqf | the modem kicked the interface |
| kb9vqf | rebooting fixed it |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Can you please check the keyservers? |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| kb9vqf | every now and then it seems the ISP rejects a MAC address, especially under high load |
| kb9vqf | if this keeps up I will have to figure out why |
| kb9vqf | I take it everything is working now/ |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| MutantTurkey | I was cleaning my fan on my heatsink on an old computer a friend gave me, tried to take the fan off and the whole cpu and heatsink came with it... |
| MutantTurkey | haha |
| kb9vqf | A Pentium 4? |
| MutantTurkey | celeron D |
| MutantTurkey | just a little behind a P4 |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| kb9vqf | they have a nasty habit of gluing to the heatsink |
| kb9vqf | permanently |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | I hated P4's |
| MutantTurkey | but they were good workhorses |
| MutantTurkey | ran hot as hell |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | the bad old days! |
| MutantTurkey | the bad old days |
| MutantTurkey | now I have a slick atom :) |
| kb9vqf | which can't do very much IIRC |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | maybe those were the good old days :) |
| MutantTurkey | they do absolutely nothing :) |
| MutantTurkey | but nothing@12W@20C... |
| MutantTurkey | the computer paid itself off in power savings two years |
| kb9vqf | ah, but what services did you have to pay for to replace the lost functionality? |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | GAH BENT PIN :[ Processor is now useles.. ._. |
| Xu_R | back |
| kb9vqf | for example if you were building software you would now have to pay for an external build service, etc. |
| Xu_R | checking the keyservers |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Xu_R | keyservers working |
| kb9vqf | great |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Any chance you could set your VPS to check the status of the primary Trinity services (keyserver, etc.) and send an Email to me if they are down |
| kb9vqf | in an automated way? |
| kb9vqf | That would be a GREAT help |
| kb9vqf | or even poke me privately on IRC, but that is probably more complex |
| Xu_R | that sounds like pinging each of your subdomains... |
| kb9vqf | ping won't work |
| kb9vqf | but if you can telnet to 80 on my two IP addressess then everything is OK |
| kb9vqf | I can write the status check software if you want |
| kb9vqf | it would probably be in bash though |
| kb9vqf | the problem is I have no way of knowing if external access to either IP is actually working |
| kb9vqf | e.g. this recent problem still allowed internally generated traffic through (!??!?) |
| Xu_R | o_o |
| kb9vqf | I really wish Internet service in the USA was more reliable :-/ |
| kb9vqf | No one wants to spend money to make it so |
| Xu_R | :-\ |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm seems complicated |
| MutantTurkey | if you want to just write a script that I can cron |
| MutantTurkey | it would be good |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I'll see what I can do |
| kb9vqf | I just have no way of knowing if something is inaccessible until someone mentions it right now |
| kb9vqf | which is not a good way to handle the site |
| MutantTurkey | I agree. |
| MutantTurkey | I could have my vps check hourly, and send you an automated phone call or something? |
| MutantTurkey | because if the website goes down, how can we reach you? |
| MutantTurkey | I guess on the irc also would work |
| kb9vqf | email usually stays up |
| kb9vqf | if email is down then I have automated checks that let me know anayway |
| kb9vqf | *anyway |
| kb9vqf | can I just use the mail command on your VPS? |
| kb9vqf | or is that not configured? |
| MutantTurkey | not configured unfortunately :| |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't bothered to set anything up, I don't know how complicated it is |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| kb9vqf | see nullmailer |
| MutantTurkey | I have dinner right now, and my girlfriend will be over. hopefully I can hop on tonight |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| MutantTurkey | Assume mail command does wokr. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | I will get it up and going |
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| grand_grunt | Hi! :) |
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| grand_grunt | I think I found a bug: when lauching kolourpaint (from trinity), then opening and editing a file from a sshfs mount, then closing kolourpaint, then umounting sshfs, at next launch kolourpaint stays stalled. |
| grand_grunt | strace shows that it tries to access the last opened file. |
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| grand_grunt | also, sshs was "unmounted" an ugly way, bash is also stalled when trying to ls it. But it is less obvious to guess where the trouble comes from when launching kolourpaint. |
| MutantTurkey | grand_grunt: hey |
| MutantTurkey | can you file that bug report? |
| grand_grunt | Yep, sure. |
| MutantTurkey | that's really easier for us |
| MutantTurkey | that way we don't loose track of bugs :) |
| grand_grunt | Was talking here first in case someone would say "corrected in latest version" or "already filled in 4 times" |
| MutantTurkey | grand_grunt: what version are you running? |
| MutantTurkey | It might not occur. |
| MutantTurkey | just file the bug report that way we deal with it :) |
| MutantTurkey | but i've gotta go! good luck with the bug and thanks for reporting it! |
| grand_grunt | versions: http://pastebin.com/f18zXNGy |
| grand_grunt | I must insist that sshfs was in ugly state, thinking twice. But used to it for direct access ("ok, stalled because I broke the ssh session"), not for a bare launching of kolourpaint. |
| MutantTurkey | once you report it, one of use running the SVN version can check to replicate the error, it might have beenfixed already |
| grand_grunt | Here it is: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=488 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 488: minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kolourpaint, okular (maybe others) are frozen by defuncted SSHFS mount. |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: are you doing nightly builds for squeeze? |
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| grand_grunt | http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1311639437.png <= wanted to share this with you :) |
| grand_grunt | good night, kind developpers. |
| Xu_R | lol |
| grand_grunt | BTW, servers for Trinity repository seems to be lagging sometimes. I own two 100Mb/s servers, can do mirrors if this may help. Just query me, will se later. going to sleep. |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Not yet for Squeeze; Natty isn't even fully built yet |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: which has nightly builds? because if squeeze doesn't I would like to be able to have one with nightly builds |
| kb9vqf | Maverick is fully built |
| kb9vqf | Natty is next (in process) |
| kb9vqf | then Squeeze, then (maybe) Unstable\ |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Check the keyserver please |
| Xu_R | working here... |
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| Xu_R | the borg arrives... |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: hmm, had someone write and say that it was still down where he was at |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: strange. it's working fine here... |
| kb9vqf | He did this |
| kb9vqf | apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net |
| kb9vqf | --recv-keys 2B8638D0 |
| kb9vqf | which would work I would think |
| Xu_R | yea - that's the same command I used |
| Xu_R | it works here |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | I may have to move that function to the other IP address |
| * kb9vqf does not look forward to that | |
| Xu_R | doesn't sound fun. |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: you said you were doing builds for natty... mind if I have a link to what you have so far? (because I accidentally installed Natty instead of Maverick) |
| Xu_R | it'll be a good way for me to test for any strange behavior too. |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: It's not much yet, but here you go.... https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/ |
| kb9vqf | as in, I only have arts and kdelibs in there so far :-P |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I know I said it would get the whole mail thing setup |
| MutantTurkey | but what was supposed to be a nice night out to dinner with my famiily ended up being a disaster |
| MutantTurkey | heavy flash flooding caused alot of water in my basment |
| MutantTurkey | I have been bailing it out with a shop vac most of the night. |
| MutantTurkey | at this point I am wet, tired and smelling musty |
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| hazridi | So, I noticed knetworkmanager seems to fail at connecting to an AP using WPA1/AES, while it connects fine to an AP that is advertising WPA2 support |
| kb9vqf | hazridi: That is a useful bit of information |
| kb9vqf | Can you please verify that the gnome network manager successfully connects to the WPA1/AES AP? |
| kb9vqf | if so a bug report may need to be filed against knetworkmanager |
| hazridi | not gnome, no |
| hazridi | but cnetworkmanager worked fine |
| hazridi | (cli network manager client) |
| hazridi | how hard is it to build trinity components on squeeze? if I can use apt for the source I could take a look at it |
| kb9vqf | hazridi: It shouldn't be too hard |
| kb9vqf | use the Maverick repository |
| kb9vqf | or wait a few weeks for the Squeeze nightly builds to start |
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| grand_grunt | Would you like a mirror server? What are the requirements? |
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| raevyn | Hi! My date/time applet I have has suddenly started showing me the timezone I am in, and no longer the date. Does anyone know how to correct that? |
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| l0ner | hello? |
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| Space_Man | hi l0ner |
| l0ner | hi |
| Space_Man | grand_grunt: kb9vqf controls the master repo, there maybe a mirror somewhere idk |
| l0ner | problems? |
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| MTurkey | hello? |
| l0ner | hi |
| MTurkey | awesome! just testing out my phone app for the meeting later. |
| l0ner | meeting? |
| Space_Man | l0ner: about 8 hours ago"<grand_grunt> Would you like a mirror server? What are the requirements?" |
| MTurkey | there is a devel meeting tonight at 1900 |
| Space_Man | there is a meeting later today |
| l0ner | didn't know |
| l0ner | nice |
| Space_Man | "... tonight at 1900" what time zone? |
| l0ner | Space_Man: i've seen mirror for .deb packages somewhere (university of idaho or smthin), but requires key from kb9vqf server |
| MTurkey | EST |
| MTurkey | or Easter Daylight Time (because of daylight savings ) |
| l0ner | and EST is UTC+? |
| l0ner | right now |
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| l0ner | i'm asking since i never really understood how EST works... |
| Space_Man | its like standard time and on the east |
| Space_Man | :P |
| l0ner | ok... |
| l0ner | uh... I'm trying to build trinity from svn sources on my gentoo |
| l0ner | firstpass: tqtinterface. Error: "Your Qt3 is not patched for compatibility with tqtinterface"... |
| kb9vqf | build our Qt3 branch first |
| kb9vqf | and install it |
| kb9vqf | build sequence is Qt3->tqtinterface->arts->kdelibs->kdebase |
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| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | I installed qt3 from kde-sunset, thought it might work |
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| l0ner | actually I'm on kde from kde-sunset, and I'm already tired of fighting agains updates to kde 4 ;/ |
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| l0ner | uh. Question: where I can find trinity qt3 branch? Can't find it on svn |
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| MTurkey | Xu_R: got irc on phone |
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| Xu_R_ | MTurkey: nice |
| Xu_R_ | i was just having server troubles here, but seems to be fixed now |
| Xu_R | so lemme close that webchat... |
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| MTurkey | so router is all ok now? |
| Xu_R | yea |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: It is in our GIT tree at http://git.trinitydesktop.org |
| kb9vqf | under Trinity Desktop Environment->main->dependencies |
| kb9vqf | you can download a tarball via the link on the bottom of the webgit page |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | will look now |
| l0ner | why etherpad access is under registration now? wasn't something like month ago... |
| MTurkey | l0ner:we reset the ether |
| MTurkey | kb9vqf: still have trouble with qt3. building ok though now |
| kb9vqf | trouble? |
| MTurkey | packaging function is messy still |
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| Borg^Queen | hey people wanted let you guys know I can't be here for the meeting, been working 26 hrs straight. I'm off to sleep. |
| Borg^Queen | Just didn't want you lads and lasses to think you were being ditched. |
| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| Strangelv | :: scrolls up and sees something that looks like 18:00 CDT |
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| l0ner | ok, I can't compile qt3 |
| Space_Man | pastebin the output - last few lines with the error messages |
| Space_Man | I've never built qt3 or trinity |
| Space_Man | but somebody here might be able to help |
| l0ner | error http://pastebin.com/4jswE6wF |
| l0ner | I don't like using binaries or binary-based distros. They feel bloated |
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| kb9vqf | l0ner: Pull Qt3 from GIT again and retry your build |
| kb9vqf | A patch snuck in that should not have been included, as it is Debian specific |
| l0ner | ok, will report if the build was successful |
| kb9vqf | ok, if not please verify the hash of your GIT pull, it should be 11b82515f821fbdbdd6b04f3e6695b710d1e70cd |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Please send all the patches you have to me directly |
| kb9vqf | I will manually put them into Patchwork |
| kb9vqf | send them as individual attachments |
| kb9vqf | on one Email message |
| kb9vqf | your Email program was inserting line breaks into the patch text, which made the patches completely unusable |
| kb9vqf | I would like to get them in to kdebase BEFORE I do the multi-distro rebuild |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I'll try to ASAP - right now my computer is having problems... |
| Xu_R | (you can always pull from build.opensuse.org too) |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: when are you going to do the multi-distro rebuild? |
| kb9vqf | working on starting it now...but only up to kdelibs |
| kb9vqf | I only want the patches that are not already in SVN ;-) |
| kb9vqf | so if you could pre-filter them for me it would be a great help |
| Xu_R | I'll try to ASAP. |
| kb9vqf | OK, thanks :) |
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| MTurkey | work is slow |
| eldowan | agreed |
| MTurkey | yawn |
| eldowan | 15 more minutes... |
| kb9vqf | ? |
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| l0ner | damn my laptop is overheating |
| kb9vqf | qt3 compilation can be nasty |
| kb9vqf | try slowing down your CPU |
| l0ner | already did |
| kb9vqf | ohh |
| kb9vqf | blow out the dust from the CPU fan vent with a high pressure air source ;-) |
| l0ner | theorically the pcu should slow down by itself |
| l0ner | did this morning |
| kb9vqf | up to a point |
| kb9vqf | what CPU is it? |
| l0ner | intel i3 m350 |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| l0ner | but it's samsung laptop |
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| l0ner | and this is the main problem |
| kb9vqf | with an undersized fan no doubt |
| kb9vqf | fan/heatsink |
| l0ner | yeah |
| kb9vqf | usually putting the CPU on max power saving will keep it running |
| kb9vqf | either that or use ctrl+z to suspend the compilation |
| kb9vqf | then run 'fg' to resume it when the CPU is cool enough |
| l0ner | and some obscure functions in bios for power management |
| l0ner | this is what i've been doing |
| kb9vqf | ah, OK |
| kb9vqf | I can't help much then :) |
| l0ner | but i got distracted, temp went up and laptop shut down |
| kb9vqf | uggh |
| kb9vqf | you do know we have Qt3 for Maverick and Natty in the nightly builds.... |
| kb9vqf | not sure which distro you are on |
| l0ner | gentoo |
| kb9vqf | that won't help then! |
| l0ner | i tried ubuntu |
| l0ner | i just can't get over with dependencies, bloatware, and how binary distros forces things on me |
| l0ner | after you tried one time gentoo, you are long gone |
| l0ner | you will never return to binary |
| kb9vqf | well, when you have a fleet of computers to maintain binaries sound quite good ;-) |
| l0ner | you bet |
| l0ner | whoah! that was unexpected. |
| l0ner | I'm beginning to wonder if my cpu reports it's temp right... |
| l0ner | paused compilation and temp went instantly from 86C to 60C |
| l0ner | how can I access the trinity eherpad? wanted to take a look on cmake porting status |
| -Xu_R- Attention: Meeting in #trinity-desktop-meeting at 1900 EDT (that would be 25 minutes from now) | |
| grand_grunt | kb9vqf: Does the trinity project have enough servers with enough bandwidth? |
| kb9vqf | grand_grunt: so far, as far as I can tell, yes, BUT if you want to be a mirror we'd be glad to have you |
| kb9vqf | all you need is a server with enough monthly bandwidth to handle file transfers daily |
| kb9vqf | i.e. no cap |
| kb9vqf | no monthly transfer cap, and no residential connections |
| kb9vqf | unless you are lucky enough to have fiber in your area ;-) |
| l0ner | live in japan and you probably will |
| -Xu_R- Meeting starting in ~1 minute(s). | |
| grand_grunt | kb9vqf: I have too servers in France, with no cap on bandwidth (France is still a nice country for this) |
| grand_grunt | If you got a pointer about "How to make a mirror" I would be happy to do one |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | hang on a bit |
| kb9vqf | in a meeting |
| l0ner | quiet idea: a mirror of site and pgp keyserver would be nice too, since from what I've seen they have problems sometimes... |
| grand_grunt | Another idea: some round robin DNS would be also nice |
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| Xu_R | now to fix this computer. brb |
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| kb9vqf | grand_grunt: I do have round robin set up for the mirrors |
| kb9vqf | you can rsync from rsync://rsync.pearsoncomputing.net |
| kb9vqf | send me the URL when you complete the initial download |
| kb9vqf | set it to sync every day or so |
| kb9vqf | (every 24 hours) |
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| l0ner | ok, i finished compiling qt3 |
| l0ner | but it |
| l0ner | stays in build dir |
| l0ner | and don't go to dir included in $QTDIR |
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| grand_grunt | kb9vqf: Ok, thanks :) |
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| Strangelv_ | Did I completely miss the meeting? |
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| Xu_R | Strangelv_: yea :( |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: can you update the meeting page on the wiki once your logs sync? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I've been reviewing the links on the main website, i thikn some of them can just go into the devel section of the website. |
| Xu_R | sure - but feel free to remind me, I might forget |
| kb9vqf | correct |
| kb9vqf | just make me a list... :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I think patches, SVN, andRoadmap can go into it. |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | send along those suggestions in the Email :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: :) ok! |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also is that news system I setup working ok? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | it's great! |
| MutantTurkey | excellent. |
| MutantTurkey | I knew it would be, simple and easy! |
| kb9vqf | when natty nightly builds are done there will be a new new entry... |
| kb9vqf | *news |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | I also am looking into using your quickbuilds for archlinux. In fact it's often quite easy to convert packages to different distros |
| MutantTurkey | that might save me a lot of trouble, building and packaging wise |
| kb9vqf | sounds good to me |
| kb9vqf | if you manage to automate the conversion process let me know |
| kb9vqf | and I will autogenerate the Arch packages |
| kb9vqf | with your automated scripts |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ok that would be cool. |
| MutantTurkey | you could also just build them regularly. |
| MutantTurkey | all you need is our package manager installed (not managing, just installed) I think you could just do that. |
| kb9vqf | what format are your packages? |
| Xu_R | which makes me wonder - kb9vqf - when we move to git, will we have hooks set up? I can just have the hooks call a rebuild of any packages |
| kb9vqf | .deb, .rpm? |
| kb9vqf | yes, hooks will be available |
| MutantTurkey | pkg.tar.{gz,bzip2,bzip,xz} |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Xu_R | great - all I need is an API call to api.o.o. |
| MutantTurkey | its a custom one :) |
| kb9vqf | I can't easily do release updates with that as QuickBuild can't understand it, but I can provide nightly / automated builds and let you pick and choose the release package set |
| kb9vqf | not sure yet |
| MutantTurkey | right we can talk later. |
| MutantTurkey | also, could you send me current php page from the website? they are all post-processed so it's not good to use |
| MutantTurkey | wait... maybe if i just use one that isn't using any formatting it'll be ok. |
| MutantTurkey | nevermind! |
| MutantTurkey | Actually, I probably need one emailed to me :P |
| kb9vqf | I can add the PHP stuff |
| kb9vqf | headers/footers |
| kb9vqf | I just need the body :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ok I will send just the body portion |
| MutantTurkey | also: http://ekaia.org/blog/2011/02/07/post-and-pre-release-fun/ |
| MutantTurkey | that notes that "One of the goals for wheezy is remove completely KDE 3 and Qt 3. " |
| MutantTurkey | wheezy is debian 7 |
| kb9vqf | nice :-P |
| kb9vqf | I'll be providing Qt3 anyway |
| kb9vqf | Qt4 is NOT a replacement for certain workloads |
| kb9vqf | and I would hate for people to stop using Debian or Linux |
| kb9vqf | just because Qt4 is a bloated unstable piece of garbage sometimes |
| MutantTurkey | yes I feel the same way about gtk3 (which is even worse that 2.x...) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf:other than links, do we need anything else? |
| kb9vqf | stopped using GTK as soon as the tools became steaming piles of trash |
| kb9vqf | the graphical dev tools that is |
| kb9vqf | when the icons in buttons start overlapping on the text with no way to fix it...well.... |
| MutantTurkey | I never have worked with the graphical dev tools (didn't even realized they existed) |
| MutantTurkey | I am only using them for simple applications anyhow |
| kb9vqf | A quick description of the development tools and mailing list might be nice, but other than that for now the links alone are OK |
| kb9vqf | Yes, they exist(ed) |
| Xu_R | and they're crap |
| kb9vqf | but rapidly became a mess |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: I actually like gtk for small things. |
| MutantTurkey | I am neither a qt or gtk guy though |
| kb9vqf | I use Qt4 for small things |
| MutantTurkey | I prefer good old ncurses :) |
| kb9vqf | that are unlikely to grow |
| Xu_R | :P |
| kb9vqf | basically only for single-purpose apps that should never be expected to blend in with any DE :) |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | should i link to git.trinity or scm.trinity |
| kb9vqf | git.trinity |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: lol did you see the picture at my work today? slowest shift ever. |
| Xu_R | looking now... |
| Xu_R | lol nice. |
| MutantTurkey | finally got my glasses. |
| MutantTurkey | weird to adjust |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: Xu_R: so far: SVN, git, devel web (wiki), roadmap, etherpad, Nightly builds, mailing list |
| Xu_R | yup |
| MutantTurkey | http://mutantturkey.com/contributors.html |
| MutantTurkey | sorry, the page title and name is wrong, but content? |
| MutantTurkey | also CSS isn't applied |
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| HardDisk_WP | hey |
| HardDisk_WP | i'm one of the LiMux developers of the city of Munich |
| HardDisk_WP | we're using Trinity 3.5.12 and have a problem |
| HardDisk_WP | when you right-click on the Home tab of the side bar, the contextmenu opens only if you click on the top ("Home") entry |
| HardDisk_WP | when you right-click on the subdirectories, nothing happens |
| HardDisk_WP | the other tabs (bookmarks) are not affected by this problem, right-clicking works there |
| HardDisk_WP | any idea? |
| Space_Man | HardDisk_WP: I'm not a Trinity developer, I'm only a user |
| Space_Man | but I do remember there was some discussion of a bug that affected Konqueror |
| Space_Man | the mouse right click did not work on the directories in the left hand column |
| Space_Man | I think it was fixed a few months ago by samellian |
| Space_Man | look in the git repo :P |
| Space_Man | or ask on the mailing list |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
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| slackware_user | Hi! is it possible to install trinity on debian sid? |
| MutantTurkey | slackware_user: not on slackware? |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| MutantTurkey | yes it is possible! |
| slackware_user | ) |
| slackware_user | where to get build scripts or something? |
| MutantTurkey | we provided packages |
| slackware_user | for SID? |
| MutantTurkey | maybe not |
| MutantTurkey | isn't sid stable now? |
| slackware_user | sid always unstable |
| MutantTurkey | oh :x |
| slackware_user | so it may be worth to make buildscripts or something |
| MutantTurkey | maybe try our packages though |
| MutantTurkey | it may work |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/installation.php |
| MutantTurkey | there are squeeze packages |
| eldowan | it works great on squeeze! |
| slackware_user | i try to install them now |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| slackware_user | broken packages... |
| slackware_user | unmet dependencies |
| slackware_user | is it possible to publish build scripts for debian? |
| MutantTurkey | yes. |
| MutantTurkey | well for the scripts, you could ask kb9vqf |
| kb9vqf | debian build files are in our GIT tree |
| kb9vqf | but be forewarned we currently have gcc4.6 issues |
| kb9vqf | these are being solved now |
| slackware_user | ок. |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| slackware_user | scripts are for svn or for releases? |
| kb9vqf | you might want to use the Ubuntu Maverick build files for now |
| kb9vqf | they are just the debian directories for each source folder in SVN |
| kb9vqf | you have to copy the appropriate debian directory to the appropriate SVN source folder |
| kb9vqf | then run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| kb9vqf | in each source folder |
| kb9vqf | this is automated on my systems, but tightly integrated with QuickBuild |
| kb9vqf | so my scripts would be of no use to you |
| kb9vqf | but the debian/ folders in GIT are universal |
| slackware_user | ok. i ll try |
| slackware_user | what's url of git repo? |
| kb9vqf | hang on |
| kb9vqf | |
| kb9vqf | git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde-packaging |
| kb9vqf | the debian/* build folder will only work with 3.5.12 |
| slackware_user | thanx |
| kb9vqf | the ubuntu/maverick/* build folder will only work with SVN |
| kb9vqf | Just keep that in mind :) |
| slackware_user | ok. i ll first try to build 3.5.12 |
| kb9vqf | yes, updates are planned, currently in the middle of a Natty build that is draining the build system resources quite badly |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| slackware_user | btw how soon can be released 3.6? |
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| kb9vqf | not sure yet |
| kb9vqf | we're waiting on bugfixes |
| kb9vqf | so it really depends on how complex they end up being |
| slackware_user | ok |
| kb9vqf | I'd like to see 3.5.13 released in the late fall 2001 |
| kb9vqf | 2011 rather |
| raevyn | Hello. Does anyone know why Pidgen wont run in Trinity? |
| kb9vqf | probably an issue with the Trinity file picker |
| slackware_user | btw.. after clone debian folder contains 2 folders which are empty |
| kb9vqf | yes...hmmm.... |
| kb9vqf | never uploaded Debian to GIT I guess :-/ |
| slackware_user | ) |
| kb9vqf | you can use the ubuntu/maverick_automake folder to build 3.5.12 |
| raevyn | file picker? |
| raevyn | is there a way to fix it? |
| kb9vqf | raevyn: Try this |
| kb9vqf | go to a terminal and run |
| slackware_user | 2 folders with .gitignore |
| raevyn | k |
| kb9vqf | LD_PRELOAD= pidgin |
| kb9vqf | slackware_user: ubuntu/maverick_automake is not empty on my end |
| raevyn | that works! just typing pidgin gives a segmentation fault |
| kb9vqf | raevyn: Then there is definitely a problem with the file picker |
| kb9vqf | any chance you can get a backtrace with GDB and create a bug report? |
| kb9vqf | so that it can be fixed in 3.5.13? |
| slackware_user | ubuntu/maverick isnt empty |
| raevyn | :( Im sorry.. if i was walked through I could |
| kb9vqf | that's ok |
| kb9vqf | I can do the same thing eventually |
| kb9vqf | just create a bug report for now, unless one already exists |
| kb9vqf | slackware_user: See http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=tree&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment%20Packaging&h=5b9d7093413631b6975997955bef919545eca795&hb=e9b162a733491b74bd7d56edd9f1314f83a8c571 |
| raevyn | okay |
| kb9vqf | you must have an incomplete checkout |
| raevyn | oh it has bugs reported i guess.. though nothing about using ldpreload |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | it's a temporary fix |
| kb9vqf | it works by disabling the file picker |
| raevyn | <nod> bummer.. i cant make a menu item for it that way |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| kb9vqf | don't worry, I consider this a major/blocker bug |
| raevyn | oh yay! i like pidgin WAY more than empathy |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | It's not just pidgin |
| kb9vqf | audacity also crashes |
| kb9vqf | and a handful of other GTK apps |
| raevyn | ohh.. is it specific gtk apps? |
| slackware_user | maybe its due to sound system? |
| raevyn | i am finding an oddity that maybe is realted? |
| kb9vqf | it is something with the file picker handling on certain GTK apps |
| kb9vqf | probably the Trinity file picker does not implement a certain GTK call |
| kb9vqf | the backtrace should show that quickly |
| kb9vqf | (working on grabbing one now) |
| raevyn | Oh.. then it probably isnt. Graphics on GTK apps seems to like.. disapear at times. buttons and menus items until hovered over |
| kb9vqf | that's probably the Qt3 integration |
| slackware_user | building qt3 first? |
| kb9vqf | which is a separate module altogether |
| kb9vqf | slackware_user: Yes |
| kb9vqf | do that from our GIT tree |
| slackware_user | fails at clean... |
| MutantTurkey | slackware_user: our tree |
| kb9vqf | the main Qt3 branch is in the main GIT tree under main/dependencies/qt3 |
| kb9vqf | it contains a debian/ folder already |
| kb9vqf | IIRC |
| slackware_user | ok ill try |
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| raevyn | so will the new release still operate and look like ti does now? |
| MutantTurkey | raevyn: yes |
| raevyn | what will the new release have? O! will it have touch functionatlity? |
| kb9vqf | if Xorg supports it.... |
| kb9vqf | but if you want an actual "touch" OS use KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | it's designed for that |
| kb9vqf | or Windows 8 |
| kb9vqf | Trinity is going to stay a mouse+keyboard driven DE |
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| kb9vqf | lots of good alternatives for a touch driven DE |
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| raevyn | ah okay. so the way it looks and runs now will stay, but bugs and such willl be fixed? |
| slackware_user | libavahi-qt3-dev missing on sid |
| slackware_user | where to get qt3-trinity for debian ? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | have to build libavahi-qt3-dev then from source... |
| slackware_user | are there build scripts for these packages? |
| kb9vqf | not sure |
| kb9vqf | look in debian for them |
| kb9vqf | that is, in the last debian release |
| kb9vqf | packages.debian.org |
| slackware_user | it seems that in sid that packsage was moved to repo at debian-ports.org |
| slackware_user | and there is no package for both amd64 and x86 |
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| calvin | wow |
| calvin | kb9vqf: I am trying out kde 4.6 for first time |
| calvin | just with irssi open it is using 600mb ram! |
| calvin | its terribly slow. |
| kb9vqf | oh nice~ |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| calvin | I will admit it looks very pretty, but its lagging oddly bad. |
| kb9vqf | looks nice but is unusable for work |
| kb9vqf | sounds familiar |
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| MutantTurkey | seems as if its indexing stuff in the backgroun alot. |
| MutantTurkey | my cpu is spliking randomly |
| kb9vqf | yes, that's probably nepomuk |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | whatever that is. |
| kb9vqf | something that cannot be turned off as an index is now somehow integral to a desktop environment (!???) |
| kb9vqf | yuck |
| MutantTurkey | i never used indexing |
| kb9vqf | only indexer I used was Google Desktop Search |
| kb9vqf | which, oddly enough, never ate my CPU or RAM! |
| MutantTurkey | hurm |
| kb9vqf | (it is smart enough to know when a user is active) |
| MutantTurkey | this is terrible. |
| MutantTurkey | it has a nice feel but even the menus and desktop are unusable. |
| MutantTurkey | anyway I gotta split. just thought i'd say that. |
| kb9vqf | nice feel? |
| kb9vqf | I though feel was influenced by usability ;-0 |
| * Xu_R notes that kde 4.7 was released today | |
| * Xu_R also notes that kdePIM 4.6+ is still largely unusable | |
| * Strangelv_ remembers integrated indexing and search. Ties up CPU and fills up all that pesky unused disk space? | |
| kb9vqf | No no...as the KDE4 devs would say it "Utilizes unused system resources to fulfill a needed function" |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| Xu_R | XD |
| * kb9vqf wouldn't use Nepomuk if it was the only indexer on the planet | |
| kb9vqf | Fortuantely it isn't, and I think every alternative is better :-P |
| Xu_R | blehh... and I still can't believe that we need MySQL for a desktop. |
| kb9vqf | we don't |
| Xu_R | exactly! |
| Xu_R | tell the kde4 devs that |
| kb9vqf | Amarok uses it IIRC, but that is because people have music collections of thousands of tracks these days |
| Xu_R | which is a good reason |
| Xu_R | but for the rest of the desktop... sqlite seems so much better to me... |
| kb9vqf | Amarok can use SQLite too |
| kb9vqf | in fact I guess it does so by default |
| kb9vqf | :eek: tornado watch + warnings near my location |
| kb9vqf | not good |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: stay safe |
| Xu_R | (we have tornado watch and warnings here all the time. they all seem to hit west of my area xD) |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: wow. |
| MutantTurkey | I just got back --- Still hogging my cpu |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: wow.0~that is ridiculous. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: actually I don't use Amarok and I still have 15,000+ songs |
| MutantTurkey | its just called being organized :) |
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| MutantTurkey | ~/music/artist/album/ tada! |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: nice XP |
| MutantTurkey | I do like plasma widgets :x |
| MutantTurkey | they are a bit bloaty for my likening, but i do find some useful. |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: what distro are you trying kde4 on? |
| MutantTurkey | I just like the idea of embedding windows in my desktop - I have actually started implemenations of ideas for that |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: arch. |
| MutantTurkey | I had mockups for embedding windows in the root window, enver got anywhere. |
| Xu_R | ah. I've always used kde4 on suse - and for some reason I can run it smoothly on 512 mb, so it got to be less of a problem than I thought |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno... I have 530 ram usage right now. |
| MutantTurkey | and only irssi is open |
| Xu_R | damn. |
| MutantTurkey | on xfce its like 150mb |
| Xu_R | so bloated still... |
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| hazridi | kde4 isnt that bad as of kde 4.6, it's a lot faster than it used to be |
| hazridi | maybe in 2-3 years it'll be usable :P |
| K`zan | OPtomist :-) |
| hazridi | I'd rather use it than gnome... shiver |
| MutantTurkey | this is terrible. |
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| K`zan | I'd rather (and do) use gnome before kcrap4 |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Can you see if there is a patch to enable V4L2 support for Kopete? |
| kb9vqf | in OpenSUSE, or similar distributions? |
| Xu_R | sure |
| kb9vqf | I may end up having to backport this http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=738522 |
| kb9vqf | and this http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1226213 |
| kb9vqf | and a couple other minor ones |
| kb9vqf | but I don't want to if I don't have to ;-) |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: nope, can't seem to find any D: |
| kb9vqf | Darn |
| kb9vqf | Feel up to some backporting? |
| Xu_R | love to, but not atm - I've got to finish bills while my parents are out-of-town X_X |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I'll probably have to do it then :-P |
| Xu_R | are those kde3 patches or kde4? |
| kb9vqf | those are KDE34 patches |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | to relatively low level code |
| kb9vqf | (meaning there isn't much reliance on Qt0 |
| * kb9vqf can't type | |
| kb9vqf | (meaning there isn't much reliance on Qt) |
| Xu_R | ah. |
| kb9vqf | nevermind, there is still support for the V4L1 API available |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | Why anyone needs V4L2 features for a webcam is beyond me! |
| Xu_R | XD |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: I haven't seen any installation instructions yet for a fresh install of Trinity on Natty, would that still be useful? I could provide them if so, it's almost the same as installing fresh on Maverick. |
| kb9vqf | I'm actually building Natty packages now, so you might want to wait a bit and make sure your instructions work with the new packages |
| kb9vqf | I can let you know when they are available for testing |
| Z_God | cool :) |
| Z_God | actually I just installed the maverick packages, but I also had to add the maverick universe and maverick-updates main repository to get all the dependencies satisfied |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Z_God | I also wonder if you are considering a 3.5.12 release for ubuntu lucid |
| kb9vqf | not sure yet |
| Z_God | most of the systems and people I support run Ubuntu Lucid with Trinity, so it would have a big impact for me ;) |
| kb9vqf | gotcha |
| kb9vqf | I'll see how practical that is |
| Z_God | ok, what kind of problems could be there? |
| Z_God | the current systems are quite stable though |
| Z_God | especially when people use only trinity (which is almost always) |
| kb9vqf | basically old/outdated libraries |
| kb9vqf | hopefully that won't be too much of an issue |
| Z_God | ok |
| kb9vqf | then there is the fact that builds take a few days of computer cluster time |
| kb9vqf | which uses a lot of $$$$ worth of power |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | (by bulids I mean new builds for a new distribution) |
| kb9vqf | basically a full rebuild |
| Z_God | ok, an incremental upgrade doesn't make sense? |
| kb9vqf | You can't just do an incremental build |
| Z_God | I remember in the olden days some distros would only update kdelibs for example and then later some packages |
| kb9vqf | To add 3.5.12 or 3.5.13 to a distribution you need a full rebuild |
| Z_God | I'd have konqueror 2.2.1 on kde 2.2.2 for a while |
| Z_God | ok |
| kb9vqf | it's not good practice |
| kb9vqf | it can itroduce many subtle bugs |
| kb9vqf | *introduce |
| kb9vqf | especially if compiler versions have changed |
| kb9vqf | (which they have under Ubuntu post-release) |
| Z_God | significantly? |
| kb9vqf | even a minor version bump can cause problems |
| kb9vqf | as I said subtle and hard to trace problems :) |
| Z_God | I'd say that's a bug in the compiler though... |
| kb9vqf | not really |
| Z_God | but yeah I can imagine you'd rather do a full recompile then |
| kb9vqf | compatibility is not guaranteed across compiler versions |
| kb9vqf | not to mention if kdelibs has one class change, the entire suite must be rebuilt |
| kb9vqf | we have a more agressive change policy on Trinity than on KDE3 |
| kb9vqf | to make sure that the desktop stays up to date |
| Z_God | I don't fully understand why it wouldn't be ABI compatible, but I know very little about this |
| kb9vqf | (not for user visible elements, just for backend stuff) |
| kb9vqf | In 99% of cases there would be no problem |
| kb9vqf | but then I get bugs reported for the other 1% |
| kb9vqf | and they are very hard to trace |
| kb9vqf | Better safe than sorry IMO |
| Z_God | yep, I understand |
| Z_God | do you know what would be needed for the bluetooth support btw? |
| Z_God | I'm running blueman now in trinity which does a pretty much perfect job |
| kb9vqf | great |
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| kb9vqf | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | kb9vqf: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 2 days, 20 hours, 22 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> this is terrible. |
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| kb9vqf | Airplane crash in Aurora disabled Internet connection for around 8 hours Sunday (07/31/2011); all services are now back online |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: wait, airplane crash? o_o so it went into the power and internet lines? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | complete mess |
| Xu_R | my god... |
| * Xu_R looks up the news | |
| kb9vqf | not too many pictures available |
| kb9vqf | but one showed cables on the ground everywhere |
| * kb9vqf notes that his luck this year is just despicable | |
| Xu_R | xD |
| Xu_R | oh, this has it: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-experimental-airplane-crashes-near-aurora-airport-pilot-killed-20110731,0,816843.story |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | that's it |
| kb9vqf | although the ISP metioned that the fiber lines were cut as well |
| kb9vqf | in addition to the power |
| Xu_R | :-\ |
| * kb9vqf wonders what's next...a hurricane? | |
| Xu_R | I would hope not that far north o_o |
| kb9vqf | maybe 5 inches of ice :) |
| Xu_R | more likely XD |
| kb9vqf | any progress on fixing bugs? |
| kb9vqf | there are a number of gcc4.6 fixes in SVN now, so you shouldn't have very many build problems |
| Xu_R | I downloaded another copy of maverick |
| Xu_R | so i'm going to re-put trinity back on there |
| Xu_R | since natty builds aren't finished yet |
| Xu_R | I also started re-doing the spec files for opensuse |
| Xu_R | (haven't pushed them to git yet( |
| Xu_R | *) |
| Xu_R | man, they really overpatched kde 3.5.10 o_o |
| kb9vqf | same with Qt3 |
| kb9vqf | both were long overdue for a new release |
| Xu_R | yea. |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: there's no sudo-trinity for maverick? |
| Xu_R | (ps - in nightly builds) |
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| Piki | hi |
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| Piki | i see tbottu is a little power hungry :-) |
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| destroyfx | For the Etherpad, it's admin validation for the registration? |
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| mutantturkey | o/ |
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| kb9vqf | destroyfx: Did you attempt to register? |
| kb9vqf | recently? |
| destroyfx | yes, today |
| kb9vqf | OK, I will approve the registration |
| kb9vqf | we have to be careful of spammers |
| destroyfx | ah, ok :) |
| destroyfx | thanks! |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | email sent |
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| mutantturkey | kb9vqf: did you import the qt3 patch you reported as a bug in the tracker? |
| kb9vqf | bug number? |
| mutantturkey | bug 484 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=484 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Qt3 needs patching to build under ARM |
| * kb9vqf goes to check | |
| kb9vqf | mutantturkey: Yes |
| mutantturkey | okay Ill mark as fixed |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: question - do you have a working sudo-trinity for maverick in nightly builds? |
| kb9vqf | did you check the build dependencies PPA? |
| Xu_R | yup |
| Xu_R | I only have a sudo-kde3 |
| kb9vqf | ohh...oops :) |
| kb9vqf | I'll correct that as soon as I can |
| kb9vqf | the build farm's a bit busy right now chewing on koffice |
| Xu_R | ok :P I can't install my nightly build on maverick until I have that XP |
| Xu_R | ewww, koffice |
| mutantturkey | LibreOffice just released 3.4.2 |
| kb9vqf | odd; it let me install kdelbs/kdebase without it |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I know... it's all installable w/o sudo-trinity >_> |
| Xu_R | only ran into that when I tried to install kdpkg-trinity, which wants sudo-trinity |
| kb9vqf | yes, that makes sense |
| kb9vqf | poke me tomorrow about it :) |
| kb9vqf | too busy today |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | I can't believe how many "programmers" thought code was OK that now throws this |
| kb9vqf | error: for a function-style cast, remove the redundant '::QPen' |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| mutantturkey | kb9vqf: low quality control, thats how they release so fast. |
| kb9vqf | it would never occur to me to write code like this TQString::TQString("Hi!") |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| mutantturkey | and release cylces are speeding up. |
| kb9vqf | so that's the excuse for Windows 8? :-) |
| mutantturkey | KDE3 was in functionality for quite a while. KDE4 is already at 4.8... 5 is in planning stages |
| kb9vqf | and it's still a bloated unusable pile of garbage |
| kb9vqf | nice |
| mutantturkey | or at least qt5 is in planning by nokia |
| mutantturkey | yeah basically. |
| mutantturkey | honestly, I think windows is doing some good with 8. |
| mutantturkey | It is at least standardizing and forcing them to use open technologies |
| Xu_R | have you seen Meego? |
| mutantturkey | because then all windows apps will run on all platforms |
| kb9vqf | inferior tech nonetheless |
| kb9vqf | even if it is open |
| mutantturkey | kb9vqf: obviously. but either way Idon't use windows |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Xu_R | people say everything is good if it's open-source. it's not good if it's open-source + crap :P |
| mutantturkey | Xu_R: but the open source model is superioir |
| mutantturkey | to the closed source |
| mutantturkey | in most cases. |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 is proving you wrong |
| kb9vqf | ;) |
| Xu_R | true - but the quality of the software is something to think about XD |
| mutantturkey | kb9vqf: now imagine if KDE4 was closed source. it would be 50x worse |
| kb9vqf | yes, I know, I know |
| kb9vqf | it seems that the worst traits of both models are on display lately |
| Xu_R | I wish Nokia didn't scrap Meego for Windows Phone... >_> |
| kb9vqf | I know |
| Xu_R | because people hate Windows Phone but love Meego |
| Xu_R | and yet it's dead on arrival to stores |
| mutantturkey | I like the windows phone... |
| mutantturkey | The interface is actually clean and intuitive. |
| mutantturkey | compared to apple and android |
| mutantturkey | I really need a clean interface, and a really well integrated one (which is one thing i hate about linux...) |
| kb9vqf | evil thought...M$ probably thinks that the desktop is disappearing and they want to write their apps once and have them work on both the software-as-a-service Web stuff and their "desktop OS" |
| Xu_R | xD |
| kb9vqf | hence the emphasis on web technologies |
| Xu_R | desktop OS... there's no way I'm moving to windows 8 |
| * kb9vqf will never EVER rent space on other people's mainframes | |
| kb9vqf | too great a liklihood the other party makes your vital data inacecssable at some point |
| mutantturkey | i dont trust the cloud. |
| kb9vqf | s/mainframes/software-as-a-service cloud/g ;) |
| kb9vqf | this is all old tech |
| kb9vqf | old ideas |
| mutantturkey | anyway |
| kb9vqf | back on topic? ;-) |
| Xu_R | maybe ;P |
| mutantturkey | back on topic? I am really annoyed with the fact that I can't get kde3 working and I don't have time to work on it. I am debating about installing debian in a chroot just to work with it |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: How are your spec files coming |
| kb9vqf | mutantturkey: Which distribution do you use? |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: working on it, may run builds locally soon, but not right this second. still a mess xP |
| mutantturkey | Arch... |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | understandable |
| mutantturkey | I don't want to compromise either way. |
| mutantturkey | i want arch + trinity. :P |
| mutantturkey | wish david was still around. He actually understands building on arch |
| kb9vqf | try the mailing list |
| kb9vqf | sometimes people take breaks |
| kb9vqf | it's healthy to do so :) |
| mutantturkey | good thinking |
| mutantturkey | I need to take a good stab at it. |
| mutantturkey | I am hoping a night this week I can sit down with a few hours and work |
| destroyfx | I'm thinking about making Trinity ebuild for Funtoo and Gentoo |
| mutantturkey | destroyfx: that would be sweet |
| Xu_R | samelian was working on that with kde-sunset, I think? |
| mutantturkey | we have a trinity packaging repo |
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| mutantturkey | destroyfx: git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde-packaging if you are intrested |
| mutantturkey | I don't think we have any for gentoo now. so someone working on it would be cool |
| destroyfx | what tde-packaging? |
| mutantturkey | it's where we keep all our build scripts for distros |
| kb9vqf | it contains all distribution-specific packaging files, ready to be copied into the vanilla Trinity source |
| destroyfx | For kde-sunset, I hear that the ebuild was planed but are actually canceled. Only KDE 3.5.10 are present |
| kb9vqf | yes, they suggested using a new ebuild |
| destroyfx | ah, ok :p I will chack that this evening |
| destroyfx | I just made some patch for KDE 3.5.10 in kde-submit... Because of some ::Stupid(error) preventing some packages to compile in GCC 4.5 |
| kb9vqf | there are a number of gcc4.5/gcc4.6 fixes in the Trinity SVN |
| kb9vqf | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/ |
| destroyfx | yeah, I read that. But I will need to make a ton of ebuilds first prior to use |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| kb9vqf | just wanted to let you know they were there |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| jumpship | Is anyone using Debian Squeeze with trinity and have KDE4 installed to use some of the KDE4 programs? |
| kb9vqf | I have some experience with KDE4 installed alongside Trinity under Ubuntu |
| jumpship | I don't wanna break trinity, so I've been trying to hold off with some programs, is the stable pkgs of trinity pretty safe with KDE4 alongside? |
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| mutantturkey | kb9vqf: I see a commit revision (r1242480) saying that everything has been completely moved to .trinity and /etc/trinity? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | the old kde3 prefix is now dropped |
| kb9vqf | otherwise it's just too confusing |
| kb9vqf | depending on which distribution you use it could be ~/.kde, ~/.kde3, or ~/.trinity |
| kb9vqf | a simple 'mv ~/.kde3 ~/.trinity' will work |
| kb9vqf | I will probably have to detect the .kde3 directory for a while still |
| kb9vqf | in startkde |
| kb9vqf | but all new installs will put the profile in ~/.trinity |
| mutantturkey | maybe a migration script |
| mutantturkey | when 3.5.13 is released |
| kb9vqf | probably |
| mutantturkey | might be easier to leave it up to users |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| mutantturkey | so what about bugs like 459? |
| kb9vqf | Trinity still obeys KDEHOME |
| kb9vqf | bug 459? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=459 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Detecting $KDEHOME to avoid conflicts with KDE3 and KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| mutantturkey | does KDE4 use $KDEHOME also? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | I thought that bug was fixed |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| mutantturkey | It might be, I was just browsing |
| kb9vqf | startkde should search in this order: ~/.trinity, ~/.kde3, ~/.kde |
| kb9vqf | and should only create ~/.trinity |
| mutantturkey | so what about this situation: |
| kb9vqf | in fact, IMHO, it shouldn't even look for ~/.kde |
| mutantturkey | someone has kde4 previously, so .kde is there , then they install trinity, then what? |
| kb9vqf | see above :) |
| mutantturkey | but they don't have .trinity on first run. |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | startkde should search in this order: ~/.trinity, ~/.kde3 |
| kb9vqf | and ignore ~/.kde |
| mutantturkey | Agreed. |
| kb9vqf | if ~/.trinity and ~/.kde3 don't exist then it should create ~/.trinity |
| kb9vqf | s/and/or/g |
| mutantturkey | that sounds valid |
| mutantturkey | eventually.. very distant future drop .kde3 |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | but at this point NEVER EVER create a ~/.kde3 directory :) |
| kb9vqf | I haven't looked in startkde recently |
| kb9vqf | so I don't know how much of that logic is already in place |
| kb9vqf | I know some of it is |
| kb9vqf | but not all of it |
| mutantturkey | okay |
| mutantturkey | should I mark that bug with anything? |
| kb9vqf | it must block KDE 3.5.13 |
| kb9vqf | and you might want to append the logic described above |
| kb9vqf | regarding searching |
| kb9vqf | Oh, this is fun: on Natty, how do you like this library path location: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdbus-1.so |
| kb9vqf | ick ick ick |
| mutantturkey | why! |
| mutantturkey | thats terrible |
| mutantturkey | ubuntu is moving farther away from linux every release. |
| mutantturkey | and is completely devoid of the unix philosophy |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea |
| kb9vqf | All I can say is YUCK |
| kb9vqf | that's even worse than the lib/ vs lib64/ stuff |
| kb9vqf | fortunately it only broke k9copy |
| kb9vqf | and I think I fixed that |
| Xu_R | o_o |
| mutantturkey | i know. |
| mutantturkey | well /lib32/ i am okay with. |
| mutantturkey | because Arch has a really simple way to setup 32bit on 64bit machines |
| kb9vqf | yes, but there should still be a symlink from /lib to /lib32 then |
| kb9vqf | or /lib64 depending on the machine architecture |
| mutantturkey | it's just an extra repo, and that's it. |
| mutantturkey | kb9vqf: yep |
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| mutantturkey | kb9vqf: funny enough he just posted on the arch ml about trinity |
| mutantturkey | David that is |
| kb9vqf | only good things I hope? ;-) |
| mutantturkey | just some package error conflict, easily resolved |
| mutantturkey | i took it as an opportunity to email him |
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| mutantturkey | kb9vqf: heading out. I am looking at some bugs tonight. might be on later. |
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| destroyfx | it's okay if I repackage all the file in .bz2 format and if I put the correct directory name. exemple, when I unpack kdelibs-3.5.12.tar.gz, I must get the kdelibs-3.5.12 folder instead of a plain kdelibs folder |
| destroyfx | I can mirror them too (all your packages plus those I will make) |
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| raevyn | Hai :) Im using the shell to start Pidgin but everytime I close it, Pidgin closes as well. Is there some way to like, start it and then let me close the shell without losing pidgin? |
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| Space_Man | I think you can add && after pidgin |
| Space_Man | pidgin && |
| kb9vqf | pidgin & |
| kb9vqf | exit |
| kb9vqf | also, there is a fix in SVN for this...if you are feeling adventurous you can install the nightly builds for Maverick or Natty.... |
| raevyn | thank you! |
| kb9vqf | np |
| raevyn | oh i might.. i was going to ask, when i loaded kde 3 on my machine, i already loaded kde 4 and now, my menu is goofy. is there a way to reset my menu? |
| kb9vqf | menu is goofy? |
| kb9vqf | how so? |
| kb9vqf | screenshots may help here :) |
| raevyn | okay well, if i log in as another user, the menu will show what app is kde 3 and kde 4, such as the control panel. but in mine it doesnt so some items start with the kde4 interface rather than 3 |
| raevyn | oh okay.. i will try to get screenshots tonight for you :) |
| raevyn | Im at work right now so I can chat but not really do anything too intensive |
| raevyn | How would i install the build? Im not super savvy in linux yet so I used your instructions to get it on Ubuntu 10.10. |
| * Xu_R nudges at kb9vqf for missing sudo-trinity in the nightlys | |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: It was uploaded last night to the nightly build dependencies |
| Xu_R | ok - checking now |
| kb9vqf | raevyn: First I would back up your machine ;-) |
| kb9vqf | Then you can swap out the nightly build repository deb and deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| kb9vqf | hmmm...on second thought, there are missing metapackages in that repository ATM |
| kb9vqf | so you can't really upgrade |
| raevyn | :) always good practice. |
| raevyn | oh.. well then.. i guess i will wait :P |
| kb9vqf | sorry |
| kb9vqf | new installs are OK |
| kb9vqf | upgrades need metapackages that are not yet uploaded |
| * kb9vqf forgot about that since he installed Trinity from scratch on his development machines | |
| * Xu_R is about to do the kde3 -> trinity deadly upgrade from stable -> nightly XD | |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I don't see sudo-trinity still D: |
| raevyn | is that disc that is made with trinity Ubuntu, just no gnome? I would like to have the hardware checking and easy software installation of ubuntu but use TDE is all |
| Xu_R | strange. I see it right on mirror.tokra.lv... |
| Xu_R | well... that's strange. |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Mirrors may not have synced yet |
| kb9vqf | they are on a 24 hour cycle |
| kb9vqf | so I would wait until tomorrow |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I just downloaded sudo-trinity from the mirror, it's just not in the repo meta yet... |
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| kb9vqf | be careful...some of those pacakges are for Debian.... |
| kb9vqf | *packages |
| Xu_R | ah, true. |
| * Xu_R forgot that you built for debian way back before .-." | |
| kb9vqf | and will build for Debian again... |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: what's up man |
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| Xu_R | hey MutantTurkey |
| Xu_R | ah, damnit. lost him by a few minutes |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I see a sudo-trinity for maverick! :D |
| kb9vqf | ah, good :) |
| Xu_R | looks like the repo meta is also refreshd |
| kb9vqf | so now I should see some bugfixes soon? ;-) |
| Xu_R | *refreshed |
| Xu_R | indeed |
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| Xu_R|ZNC | kb9vqf: before I head out for tennis: I see a python-dcop and python-kde3 fof kde3, but not for trinity... |
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| kb9vqf | not surprised...those packages are a mess and it may take some time before I build them |
| Xu_R | ah, ok |
| kb9vqf | they are also not needed for 99% of Trinity apps |
| Xu_R | ok |
| * kb9vqf is NOT a Python guru and is seriously considering dropping them from the Ubuntu builds if they don't work out of the box | |
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| Xu_R | back from tennis - downpour started as soon as I got to the courts >_> |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: a lot of packages are missing from the mirrors o_o |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | like what? |
| Xu_R | kdm, ksplash, kdebase, etc |
| Xu_R | they're not on mirror.tokra.lv or associated >_> so apt-get is failing to download them D: |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| kb9vqf | every night my ISP has been severing the connection |
| Xu_R | ah... that's probably why... |
| kb9vqf | so it is very probable that the files were not transferred yet |
| Xu_R | quite a few: http://slexy.org/view/s20dcKvDfP |
| kb9vqf | on the plus side the weather should be quiet for a while here, which should aid in keeping the connection up |
| Xu_R | that's good :D |
| kb9vqf | I'm not going to do anything about it (because I can't) |
| kb9vqf | but if you are still having problems in a day or two please let me know\ |
| Xu_R | ok |
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| Xu_R | blehh... I had to install xfce4 to remove kde3 and install trinity... >_> |
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| Xu_R | and kdm seems to be stalling after logout... and rejecting upstart restart/stop/start/etc requests.... |
| Xu_R | (fking upstart... it's not even maintained anymore) |
| Xu_R | kdm session menu shows KDE3 instead of trinity... |
| Xu_R | looks like kdesudo for trinity isn't right... |
| Xu_R | kdm's theme isn't made properly... |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I got the nightly installed |
| Xu_R | :D |
| Xu_R | and am already having difficulties... :-\ |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/8 |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Not surprised; this is not release quality software yet! |
| kb9vqf | in particular I know that the default themes are not available |
| kb9vqf | they have not been uploaded yet |
| Xu_R | figured that most of this was expected :P |
| kb9vqf | also, DO NOT TRY TO UPGRADE A SYSTEM THAT HAS ANY *-kde3 packages INSTALLED ON IT |
| kb9vqf | install from a clean Maverick/Natty installation ONLY |
| kb9vqf | metapackages will be available to migrate from the -kde3 package suffix as the release date nears |
| kb9vqf | but not yet :) |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: bit too late, I did the upgrade... :-\ |
| kb9vqf | well, now I don't know where your problems are coming from :-\ |
| Xu_R | D: |
| kb9vqf | could be the code, could be old -kde3 packages |
| kb9vqf | you will have to manually purge all -kde3 packages |
| Xu_R | oh, I already purged all the -kde3 packages |
| kb9vqf | the kdesudo thing sounds irritating |
| Xu_R | it is D: |
| kb9vqf | knetworkmanager sounds like a kde3/trinity change |
| kb9vqf | that is, it broke in the move from .kde3 and /etc/kde3 to .trinity and //etc/trinity |
| kb9vqf | why is networkmanager upstream missing VPN support??? |
| Xu_R | it probably is... but mind you, for some reason the -trinity packages are still using my .kde3 settings |
| Xu_R | no, i'm saying knetworkmanager is not working with the VPN support |
| Xu_R | (did I mistype that? O_O) |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| Xu_R | yikes |
| Xu_R | lemme fix that |
| Xu_R | there... |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | anything else to add to the list of bad news? |
| Xu_R | not really, which is a good thing. i'm firing up a clean install to see if I get the same stuff |
| kb9vqf | also any work that you can do to track down the cause of those problems is greatly appreciated :) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | sounds good |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Profile directory name (~/.trinity) fixes are in SVN revision 1244723. |
| kb9vqf | you can directly patcth the /opt/trinity/bin/startkde file if you don't want to wait for the nightly builds |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | let me know if it works properly please :) |
| Xu_R | sure |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: Xu_R: running a chroot of debian in my arch |
| MutantTurkey | going okay so far |
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| Xu_R | oh grrr.... I just realized |
| Xu_R | there's absolutely no polkit dialog when using trinity |
| Xu_R | so apps that depend on polkit |
| Xu_R | just... fail. |
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| Necrosporus | What's about trinity for Slackware 13.37? |
| kb9vqf | ask on the trinity-devel mailing list |
| kb9vqf | I don't handle Slackware |
| kb9vqf | but the person who does is on the list |
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| Necrosporus | Well, so I will probably have to compile it myself. I doubt, however, if it worth it |
| Necrosporus | Xfce works |
| Necrosporus | And I'm not sure, if KDE4 is still not as good as 3.5 |
| Necrosporus | There was a security bugs in Konqueror, is it fixed in Trinity? |
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| Strangelv__ | "Have the bug reports been enterede into TDE's bug tracker? |
| Necrosporus | I do not know, I just read, there was a vulnerability of SSL certificate checking if it contain null symbols |
| Necrosporus | It was discovered after release of 3.5.10, if I remember it correctly |
| TokRa | IMHO, KDE4 is good enough except Plasma and its sick addiction to mysql based akonadi |
| * TokRa uses Gnome2 as DE, KDE3.Kmail and KDE3.Kate for mails and code editing, KDE4.Konqueror as file manager | |
| TokRa | Gnome is not customisable enough :( |
| kb9vqf | we have many CVE updates from after 3.5.10 in our codebase |
| kb9vqf | as long as it was patched on at least one major distro (such as RedHat) we likely have the patches already in place |
| kb9vqf | a link to the CVE or upstream bug always helps ;-) |
| kb9vqf | also, if xfce is powerful enough for you, stick with it |
| kb9vqf | Trinity is here for those who find xfce too limiting |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 too bloated |
| kb9vqf | and Gnome 3 too limited |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | that should be 'and Gnome 3 too childish' |
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| Necrosporus | Well, I seem to use mostly terminal, firefox and some games |
| Necrosporus | What' s about Gnome 2 and Unity? |
| Necrosporus | I have used KDE 3.5.9 for a year, because of Slackware 12.1, however, times changed, I bought a netbook, and installed ubuntu 10.04 on it |
| Necrosporus | So, I stick mostly with gnome2, at first I found it too limited of configuration, but adapted somehow later |
| TokRa | Unity is especially designed for kids and mentally challenged adults |
| TokRa | IMHO |
| TokRa | completely unusable |
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| Necrosporus | Does Gnome3 differ much? |
| Necrosporus | I have tried it from livecd, haven't found many difference |
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| TokRa | It does |
| Necrosporus | What's the main difference, beside, the side panel is visible only in menu mode? |
| aalecs | gnome sucks. the only thing good in gnome is gdm |
| Revan199 | gedit? file-roller? |
| Revan199 | brasero? |
| aalecs | xarchiver, mucommander, xfburn.. |
| Revan199 | gedit not a FM |
| Revan199 | it is a text editor |
| aalecs | geany then |
| aalecs | i know what gedit is |
| Space_Man | gparted? |
| Revan199 | gedit is better for text than Geany, of course |
| aalecs | uh, that is ok, but we also have qtparted |
| Revan199 | it is a really good text editor |
| aalecs | Revan199: if you tweak geany, it has a lot of good stuff |
| Revan199 | aalecs: I don't need an IDE then I edit a plain text |
| aalecs | Revan199: leafpad then. |
| Revan199 | and I don't need to not use gedit |
| Revan199 | aalecs: gedit better %) |
| Space_Man | sadly qtparted is not available for kubuntu 9.10 |
| aalecs | Space_Man: pack it then. build your own deb |
| aalecs | Revan199: mousepad then :D |
| Revan199 | aalecs: ? |
| Space_Man | hopefully in the next day or two I will be updating to something a bit newer |
| aalecs | sincerily, the best de are xfce and kde |
| aalecs | gnome is a sucko.. |
| aalecs | Revan199: mousepad is the text editor in xfce |
| Revan199 | aalecs: but that don't mean that every program in GNOME sucks? |
| aalecs | nope, not all programs. but as a de gnome sucks :D and i just hate the fact that all the dumbasses started using linux, and distros like fedora... |
| aalecs | where has lfs gone |
| aalecs | debian netinstall.. slack.. where |
| Revan199 | my debootstrap'd ubuntu don't have DE |
| aalecs | cool. why did u choose ubuntu and not debian ? |
| Revan199 | aalecs: I'm switched FROM debian to ubuntu :-D |
| aalecs | ok, but why ? |
| Revan199 | PPA? |
| aalecs | i'm on altlinux here |
| aalecs | but also use debian and centos |
| Revan199 | ALTLinux? why not Agilia? |
| Revan199 | AgiliaLinux is a nice distro =) |
| Revan199 | but I don't think that ALT is nice too |
| aalecs | well, i'm on alt since 2004 |
| aalecs | better said, i`m on alt since it was a mdk fork |
| Revan199 | well, my first distro is... Debian |
| aalecs | my first was rh 6.0 |
| Revan199 | heh |
| aalecs | and after that slack, mdk and a lot others |
| aalecs | but mainly alt now |
| aalecs | and debian/others as virtual stuff, vbox, xen, openvz |
| Revan199 | when I tried ALT I thought that it is a big pack of crap |
| aalecs | why ? |
| Revan199 | aalecs: whell... I don't remember why (my memory... %)) |
| aalecs | well, i don't think it's crap |
| aalecs | :) |
| Revan199 | =) |
| Revan199 | I remember that updating from 4 to 5 removed all files |
| aalecs | ure joking :)) |
| Revan199 | xarchiver not better than file-roller %) |
| Revan199 | aalecs: no |
| Revan199 | I don't |
| aalecs | file-roller is good. xarchiver is ok. |
| aalecs | peazip works too. |
| Revan199 | peazip just works, but it doesn't work good |
| TokRa | Linus Torvalds to fork Gnome2: https://plus.google.com/106327083461132854143/posts/SbnL3KaVRtM |
| Revan199 | TokRa: he is funny yea |
| TokRa | Timothy has forked KDE3, so why Linus couldn't do the same thing with Gnome2? :D |
| Revan199 | TokRa: he don't know how to use google but wrote a post in plus.google.com |
| * TokRa doesn't use social networks at all | |
| Revan199 | because if he can use google he can googled http://matsusoft.com.ar/redmine/projects/mate |
| aalecs | eh. gnome sucks. and qmail sucks too. |
| Revan199 | aalecs: who is qmail? |
| aalecs | google it |
| Revan199 | %) |
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| Necrosporus | Gedit is not good |
| Necrosporus | kwrite is much better |
| TokRa | kate is godlike anyway |
| TokRa | ^_^ |
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| kb9vqf | equipment swap in progress...service should be restored by 3:30PM CDT |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: Just realized - there's no native polkit dialog for trinity... |
| Xu_R | so if I launched an application that needed polkit, it would fail because of no native dialog D: |
| kb9vqf | polkit? |
| Xu_R | polkit = PolicyKit |
| Xu_R | (example - Ubuntu Software Center) |
| kb9vqf | hmmm...for now I would just install some other policykit dialog |
| kb9vqf | e.g. the gnome one |
| kb9vqf | since Trinity doesn't use policykit at all |
| Xu_R | I have the GNOME one, however polkit refuses to invoke it on Trinity |
| Xu_R | I put XFCE on the same VM to see - polkit works there, so I'm not sure why polkit is refusing |
| kb9vqf | do you get any console messages? |
| * kb9vqf notes that the Qt3 version of a policykit dialog is here https://gitorious.org/policykit-kde | |
| kb9vqf | Qt4 rather |
| Xu_R | hmm |
| Xu_R | console messages: |
| Xu_R | damnit, i didn't install vbox additions |
| Xu_R | going to have to type it up |
| Xu_R | softwarecenter.backend - WARNING - _on_trans_error: org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.32'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages |
| * kb9vqf is guessing that the daemon that monitors DBUS doesn't start automaticallly under Trinity | |
| kb9vqf | that is a stupid design IMHO |
| Xu_R | polkit is stupid because not everyone uses it >_> so in the end, it's another flaw |
| kb9vqf | let's see...we'll just have YET ANOTHER BACKGROUND PROCESS running 24/7 in case someone wants to...launch with administrative privileges??? |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| Xu_R | XD |
| Xu_R | ughhh |
| Xu_R | update-manager |
| Xu_R | it now uses polkit |
| Xu_R | and guess what? it just fails silently (not even console messages) |
| kb9vqf | see if you can find the process under XFCE |
| * kb9vqf needs to restart something; be back in a few minutes | |
| Xu_R | ok |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: oh, good lord. there's policykit-1-gnome and polkit-kde-1 that handle the dialogs |
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| kb9vqf | ok, I'm back |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: oh, good lord. there's policykit-1-gnome and polkit-kde-1 that handle the dialogs... According to the description: 'PolicyKit-gnome provies a D-Bus session bus service that is used to bring up authentication dialogs used for obtaining privileges.' |
| kb9vqf | all services should be up |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | isn't it stupid? |
| Xu_R | sigh. |
| kb9vqf | what in the world was wrong with sudo? |
| Xu_R | nothing, which makes this even more crazy |
| kb9vqf | Ubuntu only? |
| Xu_R | because sudo can do the same exact thing with fine-grained privileges |
| ar | kb9vqf: nothing, except it's not flexible |
| Xu_R | uhh... probably not just Ubuntu |
| kb9vqf | so polkit is actually better? |
| Xu_R | depends how you look at it |
| * kb9vqf doesn't like things running in the background | |
| Xu_R | I see polkit and sudo the same in the end, just polkit is fancier -_-" |
| ar | kb9vqf: you either give a user "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" or end up with dozens of sudoers rules |
| kb9vqf | right... |
| kb9vqf | does polkit have a configuration GUI? |
| Xu_R | debian, fedora, and probably some other distributions will run into these polkit problems, AFAIK because they use tools with polkit now |
| Xu_R | uhhh... polkit gui? used to be, I dunno now |
| ar | and afair the point of polkit was that only a part of an app could get elevated privileges, which isn't the case with sudo |
| Xu_R | ar: makes me wonder what happened with gksu-polkit development |
| kb9vqf | part of an app? |
| kb9vqf | now that seems just ridiculous to me |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: it's like running synaptic not as root |
| kb9vqf | now we have who knows how many dangling security holes resulting from slicing off part of an app |
| Xu_R | but then when you hit apply it asks for root permissions to do just that |
| kb9vqf | so it is more of a temporal elevation? |
| Xu_R | yes |
| kb9vqf | that is the entire app gets root access for a small amount of time |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | that makes more sense |
| kb9vqf | personally I say use some other GUI frontend to polkit |
| kb9vqf | there is no need to have the Trinity widget styles |
| kb9vqf | for a stupid password box :) |
| Xu_R | xD except that stupid password box won't launch under trinity |
| Xu_R | >_> |
| kb9vqf | of course |
| kb9vqf | the question is why |
| kb9vqf | and whose problem is it? |
| kb9vqf | ours? |
| kb9vqf | or is polkit detecting KDE3 and not launching? |
| Xu_R | I think polkit is detecting KDE3 and not launching... |
| kb9vqf | then that's not our problem |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| kb9vqf | next question: can it be fooled into thinking it is running under Gnome/XFCE/etc |
| Xu_R | I don't know... |
| kb9vqf | feel like figuring that out for me? :) |
| * Xu_R goes to google | |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | the odd thing is that it worked under Maverick |
| kb9vqf | I got the ugly Gnome popup when I lauched Synaptic |
| Xu_R | Synaptic doesn't use polkit |
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| Dexter_F | heya |
| Xu_R | hey, look what I found! /usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 |
| Dexter_F | I need kaffeine-kde3 only on one box that does not have/need trinity and runs debian wheezy - I guess there are no precompiled packages for that? |
| Xu_R | for wheezy? not right now D: |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: the auth agent for gnome isn't running under trinity |
| kb9vqf | and if you manually start it do things work? |
| Xu_R | trying to find the binary to start it |
| Xu_R | ubuntu moved things around |
| Xu_R | hmm |
| Xu_R | ok, so it's only set to start in gnome... |
| Xu_R | '/ETC/XDG/AUTOSTART/POLKIT-GNOME-AUTHENTICATION-AGENT-1.DESKTOP' |
| Xu_R | (sorry for the capitals) |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | lemme test this out... |
| Xu_R | it works |
| Xu_R | so, yea... |
| Xu_R | you need another background process to display the dialogs >_> |
| Xu_R | the binary controlling this: '/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 |
| Xu_R | ; |
| Xu_R | *' |
| kb9vqf | well, that is definitely a problem |
| kb9vqf | I hate that design |
| kb9vqf | but I guess I have to live with it for now |
| kb9vqf | so we'll need a /ETC/XDG/AUTOSTART/POLKIT-TRINITY-AUTHENTICATION-AGENT-1.DESKTOP with nearly identical contents that depends on the package including /ETC/XDG/AUTOSTART/POLKIT-GNOME-AUTHENTICATION-AGENT-1.DESKTOP |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| Xu_R | yea |
| Xu_R | and they need to have OnlyShowIn=TDE; or something... |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | thats the "nearly identical contents" mentioned above ;-) |
| Xu_R | ;P |
| kb9vqf | <rant>Linux is becoming more like the bad part of Windows merged with the bad UI of UNIX and the childish UI of Mac all rolled into one</rant> |
| Xu_R | but is the 'TDE' part recognizable? |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: +1 |
| kb9vqf | hmmm...it might be recognizable, not sure |
| kb9vqf | can you try it? |
| kb9vqf | if it doesn't launch then try OnlyShowIn=KDE |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | let's seee... |
| Xu_R | nope, TDE doesn't work |
| Xu_R | o_O |
| Xu_R | KDE doesn't work either... |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: is Trinity reading /etc/xdg/autostart? |
| kb9vqf | it *should* |
| kb9vqf | try it without the OnlyShowIn just for fun |
| kb9vqf | barring that, you could try creating an entry in /opt/trinity/etc/xdg/autostart/ |
| Xu_R | without the OnlyShowIn it works |
| Xu_R | o_o" |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | OnlyShowIn=KDE3? |
| kb9vqf | if that works then something old snuck through |
| Xu_R | dum dum dum. |
| Xu_R | no, KDE3 doesn't work |
| Xu_R | o_o" |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| * kb9vqf goes to look at kdebase | |
| Xu_R | something slipped through... >_>" |
| kb9vqf | Well it is supposed to be OnlyShowIn=KDE; |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Is there a NotShowIn field? |
| Xu_R | no |
| Xu_R | hmm... interesting, because adept notifier is also in /etc/xdg/autostart and it has OnlyShowIn=KDE; |
| Xu_R | I'm going to try again with KDE |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | something must be confusing it |
| Xu_R | hey, this time it works.... |
| Xu_R | >_>" |
| Xu_R | brb, dinner... |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: X-TDE-Autostart* support is now in SVN revision 1245190. |
| kb9vqf | X-TDE-Autostart* is preferred, but it will fall back to X-KDE-Autostart* if needed |
| Xu_R | ok |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: KDM session name moved from KDE3 to TDE in SVN revision 1245194. |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: :D |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: Question: Is it possible for the kickoff menu icon to just be a Trinity logo icon? |
| Xu_R | (and we have to get rid of that embedded image stuff, that's uglyyy) |
| kb9vqf | I'm not going to fight with it personally as I never use Kickoff |
| kb9vqf | if you want to try to fix it send me a patch :) |
| Xu_R | eek - ok, I'll see what I cando |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: on the About Trinity dialog, the name is still "About KDE" |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: That was fixed about an hour ago |
| Xu_R | oh, ok :P |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: can I close bug 459? because you've moved everything to .trinity already |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=459 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Detecting $KDEHOME to avoid conflicts with KDE3 and KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | It *should* be fixed |
| kb9vqf | but I would verify it before closing that bug!! |
| Xu_R | ok |
| MutantTurkey | awesome! |
| MutantTurkey | did you se the libpython2.6 bug? |
| Xu_R | the libpython2.6 bug I had also before - but I would call that bad ubuntu packaging |
| Xu_R | and not trinity's problem... |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: patched startkde... |
| Xu_R | and it works! |
| Xu_R | my .kde3 moved to .trinity |
| Xu_R | and I still have all my settings |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I can confirm. |
| Xu_R | and looks like the rest of the bug has already been done |
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| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | go ahead and close it then |
| Xu_R | closed already :P |
| Xu_R | hm, breaking news just popped up.. |
| Xu_R | "Rating agency Standard & Poor's says it has downgraded the U.S. credit rating to AA+ from its top rank of AAA. " |
| Xu_R | oh, who didn't see that coming.. .>_> |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | and not good :-P |
| Xu_R | nope :P |
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| KingSphinx | So the channel does exist... :P |
| Xu_R | ... |
| KingSphinx | Sorry, actually just thought I'd drop by this channel to give a few words of praise, for lack of a better term, to this project for having the guts to maintain the former incarnation of KDE. Bravo! |
| KingSphinx | To be honest, I never used KDE until... 4.2, I think? I have no hard feelings against the Plasma Desktop, but 3.x just feels... right, you know? Anyhoo, if I'm bothering anyone, sorry... |
| kb9vqf | no, not bothering us at all :) |
| kb9vqf | we like it when users stop by to tell us they like what we are doing |
| kb9vqf | and in your case especially we can point to someone who had no predjudice against KDE4 (since KDE4 was your first experience with KDE), which means that the KDE3 style is still superior for some percentage of new Linux users :) |
| kb9vqf | thanks for going out of your way to let us know you like the project! |
| KingSphinx | I really don't understand why they felt the need to drop Kicker entirely, it was ported to Qt4 and everything, but droppped in alpha IIRC. It would've been nice for them to have left it as an optional component or something. :/ |
| KingSphinx | However, Trinity's indirectly responsible for my migration to Fedora (broke Compiz and my display driver with it) |
| kb9vqf | I don't think it was fully ported |
| kb9vqf | Qt4 was too limited to handle the "old" Kicker internals |
| KingSphinx | It was fine until I tried to experiment with Compiz though, so I harbor no ill will towards it. |
| kb9vqf | use fusion-icon |
| kb9vqf | and Ubuntu itself is....ehmm...unstable when it comes to Compiz |
| kb9vqf | regardless of the DE you use |
| kb9vqf | the only time I have been able to keep Compiz on is with an older Intel card on an IBM laptop |
| KingSphinx | Seems Intel hardware is the most reliable when it comes to just about anything Linux-related... |
| * KingSphinx has a Broadcom wireless chip that Ubuntu doesn't support out-of-box | |
| KingSphinx | That's actually not a good thing for me, since I kind of have to jump through hoops to get it running in *buntu, and sadly, if I wanted to install Trinity again (made a CD so I can revisit it), I don't think I could get my wireless working even with the instructions provided by the Ubuntu wiki because I'm not sure if Trinity provides the tools required. Bleh, that was a mouthful. |
| KingSphinx | Specifically, these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx |
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| ar | KingSphinx: the only reliable thing about intel, where drivers do actually matter, are network cards |
| ar | KingSphinx: i've seen enough rendering issues/artifacts on my laptop, which has intel graphics |
| ar | Xu_R: "AA+"? i've heard something about "D" |
| * kb9vqf thinks ar was looking trough a time vortex into a few years from now | |
| ar | no, not really: http://www.goldmadesimple.com/gold-made-simple-cuts-usa-rating-from-aaa-to-d |
| ar | still, imo all of those "rating agencies" are just a scam |
| ar | (and no, i don't live in the usa) |
| KingSphinx | I really think the rating decrease seems kinda overdue... I mean, really? A nation that's untold trillions in debt and it has perfect credit? |
| * kb9vqf agrees with KingSphinx | |
| KingSphinx | oh yeah! A question I've been meaning to ask: with the planned ports to RPM-based systems, will each distro retain its own artwork/theme or will it just be the "generic" KDE 3 look? |
| kb9vqf | debt to GDP ratio is just too high |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R might know |
| kb9vqf | it depends on whether or not the distro maintainer(s) will pull in the original KDE3.5 theming from the distribution or not |
| kb9vqf | I did with Ubuntu, but then again there have been several cycles since then, so the current artwork looks nothing like the original artwork ;-) |
| kb9vqf | *release cycles |
| KingSphinx | I think Fedora still has the Qt3 port of Bluecurve in its repos, and lol, I've noticed. |
| KingSphinx | Hardy looked excellent, but it seems from 8.10 onward, Kubuntu just opted to use the "generic" themeing. |
| kb9vqf | hmmm...8.10 sounds like the point at which my releases started |
| kb9vqf | you must not have had the theming packages installed |
| kb9vqf | for reference, here's how the Ubuntu releases look now: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/ |
| KingSphinx | Interesting... Enterprise Edition seems to vaguely resemble Windows XP (possibly on purpose?) |
| KingSphinx | Desktop Edition seems to pretty much look like Hardy with a new wallpaper. Not a bad thing though, it looks great IMO. |
| KingSphinx | Just what does Enterprise have that Desktop lacks? Additional apps/drivers? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | loads of apps |
| kb9vqf | more drivers |
| kb9vqf | and a cleaner, tighter widget style and theme |
| kb9vqf | more along the lines of what you expect in a corporate environment |
| ar | paypal :/ |
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| Xu_R | ar: LOL |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: yes, distros will pull in KDE theming from the distribution D: |
| Xu_R | and I dropped Fedora because they strictly forbid anything installed in /opt, which is a pain because then I have to conflict anything KDE4 |
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| raevyn | Hello! So I havebeen playing with Trinity DVD today and realized its Ubuntu 10.10, just no GNOME desktop. Is that accurate? |
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| KingSphinx | What's all this about Fedora forbidding anything installed in /opt? |
| raevyn | hello. so i just compared my kde3 installation on ubuntu to the installation that is one the tde enterprise dvd.. and i am missing a huge number of files. |
| raevyn | could this have been caused by installing kde4 first? |
| KingSphinx | Well yeah, I'd believe the cause may actually just be that the Enterprise DVD has a lot of extra features, whereas installing via repo will just give the standard CD experience. |
| raevyn | ohhhhh... <sighs> is there a way to remedy that? to get the entire KDE software set via repo? |
| KingSphinx | Maube, but I'm not sure, I haven't had Trinity in a while. (it's not available for Fedora, nor does it seem likely in the forseeable future.) |
| KingSphinx | *maybe |
| raevyn | what if i moved the files i am missing from the virtual machine directory into the main system directory? |
| raevyn | okay i copied kdf over and now it does run appearing with the kde3 theming rather than kde4.. so maybe that is all i have to do? |
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| raevyn | hello im back. i had to restart. |
| raevyn | so, i confirmed with another VM that indeed the enterprise version of TDE comes with more software. |
| raevyn | But I have some concerns... Ubuntu was great at hardware detection and has a good software repo... so first off is the Trinity DVD incorporate thsoe ubuntu traits? And, I would like to still keep gnome or install it after installing Trinity Enterprise.. can I still do that? |
| raevyn | oh you know, no on is here lol. I will try back on Monday |
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| Xu_R | KingSphinx: uhhh... standard FHS, Fedora policy, etc? |
| KingSphinx | Oh well, hopefully something can be done to get it ported to Fedora. If not, guess it's migration time for me. :/ |
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| Raevyn | hi.. so somehow i have dolphin popping up on me when i open folders. is there a way to get back to konquerer? |
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| Space_Man | K menu / System settings / Default applications / File associations / Inode / Directory / add Konqueror here or move it up |
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| KingSphinx | Well, I was surprised to see that Trinity indeed has jockey-gtk, so I can still install the necessary drivers for my wireless card even with no wired connection. :D |
| KingSphinx | Whoops, that didn't come out right. |
| KingSphinx | I was surprised to see that Trinity still has jockey-gtk, so I can still install my wireless drivers. |
| KingSphinx | Oh wait, that *did* all come out the first time. Sorry! ^^; |
| * kb9vqf notes that we support GTK applications in preference to Qt4 ones, as 1) we can overlay Trinity themes on them and 2) they are more stable and less resource hungry than Qt4 apps tend to be | |
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| OnlyHuman | quack |
| OnlyHuman | !rpm |
| tbottu | OnlyHuman: Error: "rpm" is not a valid command. |
| OnlyHuman | vrpm |
| OnlyHuman | v rpm |
| OnlyHuman | quack quack |
| Xu_R | not cool, OnlyHuman |
| OnlyHuman | oh |
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| Xu_R | -_-"" |
| Xu_R | I'll take the beating for him on this one. |
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| l0ner | Hi |
| elcaset__ | hello howdy |
| l0ner | anyone here from who i could get some help with compiling (or rather non-compiling) parts of trinity? |
| elcaset__ | I am not experienced enough to help with compiling, but I bet someone here ios. |
| elcaset__ | oops, here is. |
| l0ner | kb9vqf should be able to help |
| l0ner | but it seems he's away |
| elcaset__ | i tried Porteus GNU/Linux with Trinity pre-installed. i like it, so far. |
| l0ner | I used the Ubuntu-based trinity distro |
| l0ner | but it was ubuntu, which is too blated for me |
| l0ner | normally I use gentoo |
| l0ner | which I can configure any way I want |
| KingSphinx | The only other version of Trinity available that I know of is Slackware, so... there's a Gentoo version? |
| l0ner | no, there is overlay but it sucks |
| KingSphinx | the kde-sunset overlay? |
| l0ner | so I pulled trinity code from svn and I'm trying to compile it maually |
| l0ner | no the kde-trinity |
| KingSphinx | Wouldn't know about compiling something as big as Trinity, sorry. |
| l0ner | it's not in the main overlay list |
| l0ner | kay, I'll wait |
| * KingSphinx has never used a Linux distro more complex than Fedora... | |
| l0ner | well, the gentoo is not complex |
| l0ner | but You'll need to learn how it handles some aspects |
| KingSphinx | I'm perfectly aware of DIY stuff like that, I just prefer the "noobier" stuff like Ubuntu/Fedora/Debian |
| l0ner | I prefered it years ago |
| l0ner | then I noticed it was too heavy for me, and too bloated |
| l0ner | so I moved directly from ubuntu tu gentoo |
| KingSphinx | Ah |
| KingSphinx | Nice |
| l0ner | and didn't had many problems |
| KingSphinx | Nothing wrong with that, though I still prefer my choices. :P |
| l0ner | the handbook is pretty clear on how to install it |
| KingSphinx | USE flags seem very cool though. |
| l0ner | yeah, I know ;) It's the "different distro for every user" rule :P |
| l0ner | I even thought about doing it hardcore way, using the LFS |
| l0ner | but it's a little too much for me :P |
| KingSphinx | I might have to migrate back to Kubuntu Trinity, since it now seems unlikely that Trinity can be properly ported to Fedora (something about packages not being allowed to be installed in /opt...?) |
| l0ner | dunno, never used Fedora. But I had read about it in the channels history |
| l0ner | it seems pretty pointless blocking the /opt dir, which existence was to allow user install external thing he needed |
| l0ner | at least it's what i had been told years ago |
| KingSphinx | I know, but there's not much I can really do. But... I found my old Google Chrome install in /opt, and it was an RPM package, so maybe... hmm... |
| l0ner | maybe they don't allow thing installed by user, |
| l0ner | not by the repo system or things like that |
| l0ner | or maybe it was there before they introduced this "nothing in /opt" rule and there is nothing that would delete it |
| * l0ner thinks about getting some sleep | |
| l0ner | well... bbl |
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| Space_Man | KDE Frameworks 5.0 In Development http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/08/07/2128222/KDE-Frameworks-50-In-Development |
| KingSphinx | It's only in development, but... this technically means Trinity's now two generations out-of-date. Dunno whether to laugh of feel depressed... |
| KingSphinx | *or |
| elcaset__ | some folks over at the PCLOS irc are trying to convince me that KDE Trinity has no hope. There is some hope, right? |
| Space_Man | yes there is still lots of life in Trinity |
| elcaset__ | awesome!. thanks Space_Man. |
| Space_Man | has Qt5 even been announced? |
| elcaset__ | it's in the works, but i don't know beyond that. |
| Space_Man | a blogpost about qt5 http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/05/09/thoughts-about-qt-5/ |
| elcaset__ | there were qt5 discussions supposedly at that KDE gathering in Europe that occured in the last 3 months. |
| Space_Man | "beta quality code available towards the end of the year and final Qt 5.0 release some time during 2012." |
| Space_Man | Tim has written "TQt" which bridges qt3 and qt4 |
| KingSphinx | A question about TQt: is it supposed to be a fork of the old Qt3 or is it something like a bridge for Qt4? |
| Space_Man | it used the best bits from both :P |
| KingSphinx | Oh, nvm, saw above |
| Space_Man | I'm 100% certain of the details |
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| KingSphinx | Will there eventually be bits from Qt5? |
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| Xu_R | KingSphinx: yes, there will. but we have to get to Qt4 first :P |
| Xu_R | time to download the latest nightly build for my xubuntu and see the SVN changes :D |
| * KingSphinx feels lost amongst all the programmers... (cannot program anything to save my life) | |
| Xu_R | well, I only know basic C++ programming |
| Xu_R | that I learned last year... >_>" |
| KingSphinx | I barely know HTML... ^^; |
| Xu_R | I'm learning Java next year. Wish me luck, because Java is hell xD |
| Xu_R | fk, I just remember I still have to renew my Linux Foundation Membership (which I didn't know I had >_>") |
| Xu_R | *remembered |
| Xu_R | ok, that's not good. latest nightly build isn't starting up trinity at all... |
| Xu_R | but checking xsession-errors, it looks like everything is working... |
| Xu_R | oh, god, I want to punch Upstart in the face so badly right now... |
| * KingSphinx notes that this is why I'm not brave enough to use nightly builds | |
| * Xu_R is the daredevil on virtual machines :P | |
| Xu_R | KingSphinx: this is why I have XFCE as another desktop :P |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Nightly builds were suspended a few days ago due to old packages not being purge from the archive |
| kb9vqf | The problem has been resolved and builds are restarting |
| * kb9vqf whispers ethereal wisps of a new feature, long absent from Linux http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1245566 | |
| kb9vqf | For those who think Trinity has no future, bear in mind that we maintain Qt3 as upstream |
| kb9vqf | Since Qt3 was absorbed, you could think of Trinity as a pure Xlib desktop ;-) |
| kb9vqf | also, since TQt porting is complete, it would be theoretically possible to move Qt3 to the new TQ* namespace, thus eliminating any potential conflicts with Qt4 |
| kb9vqf | this could be done independently of the Trinity desktop project |
| kb9vqf | Qt4 is a shifting target (still!) and has significant performance issues |
| kb9vqf | not all the problems with KDE4 are due to the KDE4 developers.... |
| KingSphinx | I really don't get why there's people that say "Trinity has no future"; last I checked, as long as a project has demand and developers still active, it has a future. </opinion> |
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| kde3ftw | anyone have any experience with servicemenus? I'm trying to make a right click open with console here for folders but when I use it, it always sends me to the ~ directory not the directory i right clicked on. My servicemenu .desktop file is here: http://pastebin.com/Z75CeD2f |
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| kb9vqf | kde3ftw: You will need to pass the --workdir flag to Konsole, along with (so 'konsole --workdir ') |
| kb9vqf | kde3ftw: You will need to pass the --workdir flag to Konsole, along with (so 'konsole --workdir %U') |
| kb9vqf | grr |
| kb9vqf | IRC keeps eating the % signs |
| kb9vqf | let's try that one more time |
| kb9vqf | kde3ftw: You will need to pass the --workdir flag to Konsole, along with %U (so 'konsole --workdir %U') |
| kb9vqf | there we go |
| kde3ftw | kb9vqf -- Thanks ill give it a try -- and btw thanks for all the development on kde3 :) |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kde3ftw | kb9vqf ---> the Exec='konsole --workdir %U" didnt work BUT Exec=konsole --workdir '%U' does! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction :) |
| kb9vqf | glad to hear it |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | yes, I forgot the quotes |
| kb9vqf | it's been a while since I worked on service menus :) |
| kde3ftw | whoops posted um wrong too.. did the " 's and ''s |
| kde3ftw | hehhe |
| kde3ftw | yeah.. having access to the console from anywhere is just so helpful though :) |
| kde3ftw | kb9vqf -- thanks again and gnite! |
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| KingSphinx | About the whole "Trinity-decoupling-from-Ubuntu" thing: the Kubuntu wiki says that Trinity's moved to a yearly schedule. Does this mean that the next release will likely be released as 11.10 or is this more of a "when it's done" sort of thing? |
| kb9vqf | when it's done |
| kb9vqf | probably on a yearly schedule |
| kb9vqf | 6mos is too short |
| KingSphinx | I imagine so, especially given the relative size of the project compared to, say, current KDE |
| KingSphinx | With the instructions given on the site, however, it is possible to stay current? |
| KingSphinx | Also, completely unrelated, but it really is impressive how lightweight 3.x is... just saw a video of someone running 3.5.10 very well on a Pentium 4 and only 1 GB of RAM :) |
| kb9vqf | we are building Natty packages now |
| kb9vqf | there won't be this long hiatus in the future |
| kb9vqf | our build system broke when Natty was released |
| kb9vqf | due to Autotools changes |
| kb9vqf | it took quite some time to get those problems fixed |
| kb9vqf | IMHO the desktop *should* be that light :) |
| kb9vqf | believe it or not, on powerful, modern hardware, Trinity still feels a bit sluggish at times when used at very high screen resolutions |
| KingSphinx | Just for curiosity's sake (sorry, I love asking questions), it'll pretty much by Natty, but still 3.5.12? |
| KingSphinx | 1280x1024's not that high, is it? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | try 1080 ;-) |
| kb9vqf | try 3840x1080 ;-) |
| kb9vqf | what do you mean "by natty"? |
| KingSphinx | Wow |
| * kb9vqf thinks KDE4 would be especially unusable at that resolution | |
| KingSphinx | lol, possibly |
| KingSphinx | You'd need one heck of a computer to run it at a decent speed, that's for sure |
| * KingSphinx still ran KDE 4.2 on a 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 and 512 MB of RAM back when 9.04 was around | |
| KingSphinx | I still have that old clunker of a computer, just upgraded to 1 GB RAM and GeForce 4 graphics |
| elcaset__ | KDE 4.2 is a lot faster than KDE 4.5 in my usage. |
| KingSphinx | Somehow, KDE 4 ran just as badly after the upgrades. |
| KingSphinx | You know a desktop is bloated when Trinity can beat it running off the CD |
| KingSphinx | To be fair, 4 runs pretty well on my current rig, but Trinity's still ending up on it one way or another. Even if I have to distro-hop back to Kubuntu to do it. |
| * KingSphinx is wondering how exactly one goes about installing a new distro over an old one while keeping your /home partition | |
| kb9vqf | a cell phone OS may run very well on a desktop computer, but then why have the desktop computer at all? Just buy another cell phone... :-P |
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| l0ner | Notice: the trinitydesktop.org/wiki main page has been spammed and now it's displaying some text about insurances... |
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| Space_Man | the wiki spam has been removed |
| l0ner | good thing |
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| l0ner | I'm having trouble compiling the kdelibs. Error I get: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/454660/ |
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| MutantTurkey | I had this idea. |
| MutantTurkey | basically I am sick of programs stealing CPU uselessly, and i was thinking (if only i could pause them!) but then i thought, wait this is linux. SIGTSTP works perfectly. |
| MutantTurkey | Now I am hacking onto dwm to automatically SIGTSTP anytime a window goes out of focus. |
| MutantTurkey | then SIGTCONT when it is refocused |
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| *** Xu_R is now known as Xu_R|ZNC | |
| *** Xu_R|ZNC is now known as Xu_R | |
| MutantTurkey | o/ Xu_R |
| Xu_R | hey MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | whats up man |
| Xu_R | gotta finish summer hw and get stuff |
| MutantTurkey | oh nice |
| ar | MutantTurkey: you know you're basically reimplementing ios multitasking? |
| MutantTurkey | title |
| MutantTurkey | ar: what! |
| MutantTurkey | ar: no idea actually, what is ios? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: iOS = iPhone OS |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | so yes basically. |
| MutantTurkey | except on the desktop |
| ar | yes |
| ar | and it might be a good battery saver |
| MutantTurkey | because I don't need ffx taking 25% cpu to draw gifs and flash apps in the background |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| MutantTurkey | I need a system of orginizing and tagging programs. |
| MutantTurkey | so that all firefox's pause automatically, but never do it to a terminal etc. |
| MutantTurkey | and manual for all of it |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: share it when You finish it |
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| kb9vqf | Space_Man: Where was the wiki spam, and do you know how it got there? |
| kb9vqf | It sounds like something wasn't locked down correctly |
| Space_Man | 2 people made accounts, #1 added a new page and the #2 added a new page and edited the start page |
| Space_Man | http://trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Main/WebStatistics |
| Space_Man | the pages were ShortTermLoans and Trash.MainJazelAseAs |
| Space_Man | the spammers were RaynnPada and MainJazelAseAs |
| Space_Man | earlier I made a foswiki account and deleted the pages and users |
| MutantTurkey | |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: I have some problems compiling the kdelibs. Don't know if you've seen my msg earlier |
| kb9vqf | no I didn't |
| kb9vqf | what is your problem? |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/454660/ |
| l0ner | this is what i get |
| kb9vqf | compile and install the latest Qt3 sources from our GIT repository |
| kb9vqf | our Qt3 is extended vs. the old Qt3 in most distributions' package systems |
| l0ner | did, but I will try to recompile |
| kb9vqf | yes, the change is recent |
| kb9vqf | within the past few days |
| l0ner | ok, is there any way to checkout anonymously from your git? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | same way as regularly |
| MutantTurkey | just don't use the user@ bit |
| l0ner | ok, thx |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: the development page is handy |
| kb9vqf | glad to hear it :) |
| kb9vqf | (of course you were the one that worked on it so...) |
| MutantTurkey | it should encourage more developers anyhow |
| kb9vqf | Space_Man: The main Web was not locked down |
| kb9vqf | It is now |
| kb9vqf | no more spam I hope :) |
| l0ner | linux amuses me... |
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| Raevyn | Hello. Is there any instructions to install TDE on ubuntu 11? |
| Raevyn | oh.. well thats odd. I uninstalled kde 4 and that took out much of tde.. though the software center seems to be running something to repair broken deps |
| Space_Man | Raevyn: did you fix your Dolphin / Konqueror problem? |
| Raevyn | oh yes.. i uninstalled dolphin |
| Space_Man | good |
| Raevyn | it owuld be nice to have it as an option but I couldnt find anyplace to go to make konqeror my default |
| Space_Man | K menu / System settings / Default applications / File associations / Inode / Directory / add Konqueror here or move it up |
| Raevyn | thank you! I will try it again :) |
| Space_Man | did you use ubuntu or kubuntu 11.04? |
| Raevyn | ubuntu 10.10 upgraded to 11.04. |
| Space_Man | later I'm going to install ubuntu 11.04 trinity but I don't know how to |
| Space_Man | I guess install ubuntu 11.04 then add the trinity repo's |
| Raevyn | I was going to let the software center fix itself then try installing TDE again |
| Raevyn | hm.. it still fails to install. is there maybe a way to make it install if it was installed previously and was damaged? |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: I think the polkit problem is fixed with the new package tde-ubuntu-integration |
| kb9vqf | can you try it? |
| *** kb9vqf changes topic to "Trinity Desktop Environment 3.5.12 is out! Get it at http://www.trinitydesktop.org Also, consider joining the Trinity mailing lists [http://bit.ly/hZ83mF]. IRC will be most active/helpful during business hours in the USA. BOTW #394 [http://bit.ly/i3tpT5] CMake status [http://bit.ly/fvh4f2] Natty [http://bit.ly/kzH5mO] Support the Project! [http://bit.ly/pmkMVB]" | |
| l0ner | can I ask someting? |
| l0ner | what exactly aRts is? |
| kb9vqf | it's a sound system proxy |
| kb9vqf | a sort of abstraction layer that sits between Trinity apps and OSS/ALSA/PulseAudio/etc |
| l0ner | ok, thx |
| l0ner | another question: do You plan on supporting PulseAudio, with it's fetures, in TDE? |
| l0ner | since PulseAudio seems like nice thing when looked at description on their main page |
| l0ner | yet, I never seen it actually work like it should |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: back from school supply shopping XD yess, will boot up and test asap |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Which features? |
| kb9vqf | Pulse works fine in Trinity right now |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: like separate volume control for each app |
| l0ner | or it is already included |
| kb9vqf | for each app? no |
| kb9vqf | didn't even know that was available :-/ |
| l0ner | "Generic hardware abstraction, giving the possibility of doing things like individual volumes per application." |
| l0ner | taken from pulse website |
| l0ner | it would be really nice to have this, since I was using this a lot in win7 |
| l0ner | and I always missed this in linux |
| kb9vqf | I don't even know if any GUIs/DEs currently allow you to do that |
| kb9vqf | Never heard of it personally |
| kb9vqf | Just because a backedn supports something doesn't mean there are any frontends yet--just look at XRandR 1.2 |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | *backend |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: the package hasn't appeared on mirrors yet, so you'll have to wait a day D: |
| kb9vqf | That being said...you should file a feature request bug report |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: OK |
| kb9vqf | that makes sense |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: how about kdesudo? is it fixed? :o |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: will thought about it ;) |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Describe at least one way to access the proposed feature (e.g. via a configuration dialog in kmix, right-clicking on a running application titlebar/taskbar entry, etc.) |
| kb9vqf | in the bug report that is |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: you can pull it directly from https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/+files/tde-ubuntu-integration_0.1-0_all.deb |
| Xu_R | ok |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: ok, I will do it later, when I thought about it ;) |
| kb9vqf | sure :) |
| kb9vqf | we can't know what our users want unless they tell us :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: what is the meta package for trinity under debian? |
| MutantTurkey | as in, how can I install all trinity packages with a single command |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: testing |
| Xu_R | and I confirmed a TDE entry now in KDM :D |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: and it works :D |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: kde-trinity |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Without your previous hack in place? |
| Xu_R | yea |
| kb9vqf | great! |
| MutantTurkey | also what l0ner said is a great idea |
| Xu_R | I removed the previous hack before installing the package |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: I set ksmserver to recommend tde-ubuntu-integration |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | so it should get sucked in when someone installs via the metapackage |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | and if it doesn't, a search in synaptic for tde and policykit should turn it up ;-) |
| Xu_R | :) |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: D: kdesu still doesn't work... |
| kb9vqf | I expect that |
| kb9vqf | it hasn't been uploaded yet |
| Xu_R | ah, ok. |
| kb9vqf | as I mentioned before the nightly builds stalled due to obsolete packages not being automatically purged |
| Xu_R | ah, right. |
| kb9vqf | it's amazing how fast you can chew through disk space that way :rolleyes: |
| kb9vqf | I'm working on a few glitches, then I'll restart the builds |
| Xu_R | oh, yea. I know. /me looks at his server here... >_> |
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| MutantTurkey | installing trinity on my vps xD |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: ok, this is an interesting development |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I got tired of kdesudo, so I removed kdesudo-trinity... |
| Xu_R | and then all of a sudden it's working... without the package? |
| Xu_R | ok, lemme rephrase that - kdesudo isn't working, but kdesu *is* and is accepting sudo requests... |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | kdesu is the fallback |
| * Xu_R is glad now that he killed off the kdesudo-trinity package then because it's not working... | |
| MutantTurkey | wubwubwub |
| MutantTurkey | I did apt-get install kde-trinity and everything is named like kde4... |
| MutantTurkey | even while it works like trinity |
| MutantTurkey | actually I have no idea whats going on |
| l0ner | damn |
| l0ner | I recompiled qt, recompiled tqt, and arts |
| l0ner | and I still can't compile kdelibs |
| l0ner | I the same error |
| l0ner | *I got |
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| MutantTurkey | weird |
| MutantTurkey | kicker is eating my cpu at 100% |
| MutantTurkey | is that normal for first boot? |
| MutantTurkey | caching the entries or something? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ^ |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
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| MutantTurkey | what i think happened was that kde4 started alongside trinity, and locked everything up. |
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| KingSphinx | I got Trinity installed! :D |
| Xu_R | :D |
| KingSphinx | And managed to keep my /home as well, though getting wireless working with no wired connection was a PITA |
| Xu_R | always is. |
| KingSphinx | Especially with Broadcom cards... |
| MutantTurkey | wireless is a totaly pain if you don't memorize how to do it. |
| MutantTurkey | at this point I have it all memorized. |
| MutantTurkey | dhcpcd is your friend!! |
| l0ner | strange, i had no problem with my broadcom card |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: about half the people love it, the other half hate it. |
| l0ner | yeah, i know |
| l0ner | problem is, 99% of users are using generic kernel |
| KingSphinx | Fedora didn't have any trouble detecting/using it out-of-box... and *only* Fedora can, I don't know why. |
| l0ner | and need to use strange things |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: haven't tried arch yet then :p |
| Xu_R | or suse :P |
| MutantTurkey | doesn't everyone still mostly self compile kernels? |
| l0ner | maybe because Fedora has precompiled modules for broadcom and ships firmware |
| KingSphinx | Tried SuSE, that doesn't either |
| l0ner | depends |
| Xu_R | strange - I've always gotten SuSE to work for me... /me has strange luck with it |
| l0ner | about what kind of user we are talking? unless you are advanced, you'll use generic kernel |
| l0ner | even on gentoo, where compiling your own kernel is a part of installation, there are some people who prefer the genkernel |
| MutantTurkey | I suqqsaI suppose |
| MutantTurkey | I always have self compiled, out of habit I guess |
| MutantTurkey | plus my kernel is lean and mean |
| l0ner | I have self compiled because i like my kernel minimal and moduleless |
| l0ner | i keep only minimal set of modules, everything else is included in kernel |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| MutantTurkey | modules are annoying as heck |
| l0ner | and they slow down bootup |
| MutantTurkey | my hardware is always the same, therefore dynamic loaded modules is ineffiecient |
| l0ner | same for me, sice I'm running linux on my laptop |
| MutantTurkey | exactly |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Then you must have two versions of Qt3 installed |
| kb9vqf | ours and your distro's stock version |
| kb9vqf | try to locate qstyle |
| kb9vqf | try to 'locate qstyle.h' and see if you have it in multiple header directories |
| l0ner | the problem is: my distro don't ship qt3 anymore |
| KingSphinx | Your distro of choice? |
| l0ner | they stopped something like 2 years ago, when decided to drop kde3.5 |
| l0ner | gentoo |
| KingSphinx | kde-sunset overlay? |
| * Xu_R wonders where samelian went | |
| * Xu_R notes that samelian was working on gentoo/kde-sunset IIRC | |
| l0ner | i used it, but it sucked, too many bugs, so i purged my system from it |
| l0ner | right now i should have only qt3 from your git |
| * KingSphinx wonders if TDE will get ported to Gentoo... | |
| l0ner | i was thinking about it |
| KingSphinx | Also, just my opinion, but while TDE's version of Konqueror makes a great file manager, it's kinda dated as a web browser. |
| l0ner | KingSphinx: never liked konqueror as web browser |
| l0ner | i prefer have them separated |
| KingSphinx | Current version of Konqueror's much-improved, I can say this from experience. |
| l0ner | but it's because of my philosophy: one app for one thing |
| l0ner | KingSphinx: you say? maybe i'll try to give it a shot |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: i follow that mostly as well. |
| KingSphinx | Quick question: would simply installing ubuntu-restricted-extras do the trick for MP3 codecs and Flash/whatever? |
| KingSphinx | Or does Trinity have its own way of installing proprietary codecs? |
| Xu_R | KingSphinx: ubuntu-restricted-extras is all you need |
| MutantTurkey | guys I am running into a big problem |
| MutantTurkey | first of all kde4 is running alongside trinity, no idea why. |
| MutantTurkey | second of all, I have no idea how it got installed D: |
| KingSphinx | That sounds odd, yet strangely cool. |
| Xu_R | sounds like recommends got pulled in |
| l0ner | ok, I think i found where my problem is |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: yeah.. |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: try removing any bits of kde4 you have |
| Xu_R | (just remove qt4, it'll pull down the rest of kde4) |
| MutantTurkey | apt-get remove? |
| Xu_R | yea |
| MutantTurkey | it says unable to locate qt4 |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: apt-cache search qt4 | less |
| Xu_R | and locate the qt4 libarary |
| Xu_R | *library |
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| MutantTurkey | anot even there. |
| MutantTurkey | apt is so counter intuitive |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: That happens because Plasma is set to autolaunch at all times |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: what should I do? |
| kb9vqf | Really stupid design decision IMHO |
| kb9vqf | which version of Ubuntu are you on? |
| MutantTurkey | debian |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| kb9vqf | look for the plasma.desktop autostart file |
| kb9vqf | and for now move it somewhere else |
| MutantTurkey | where whould that be? |
| kb9vqf | that will kill KDE4 though |
| kb9vqf | try in /etc/xdg/autostart or similar |
| kb9vqf | I don't recall OTOH |
| MutantTurkey | not there. |
| * Xu_R is pretty sure MutantTurkey doesn't want kde4 anyway XP | |
| MutantTurkey | I don't even have kde4 installed afaik |
| kb9vqf | well then move /usr/bin/plasma to /usr/bin/plasma.bkp ;-) |
| kb9vqf | that will completely kill KDE4 :) |
| Xu_R | or remove libqtcore4 |
| Xu_R | (and kill everything >:D) |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | goot call |
| kb9vqf | the /usr/bin/plasma hack will at least let you use KDE4 apps if neede |
| kb9vqf | *needed |
| MutantTurkey | I don't even use kde4.... |
| MutantTurkey | I don't even know how it got here! |
| Xu_R | use aptitude next time ;P |
| kb9vqf | probably through some weird apt recommends chain |
| MutantTurkey | darn |
| MutantTurkey | frankly I don't understand the whole dkpksystem |
| MutantTurkey | and there is terrible lag all of a sudden :[ |
| l0ner | thats why i choose gentoo |
| l0ner | i control what i get in my system |
| l0ner | and i can configure some dependencies through USE flags |
| kb9vqf | to each his own |
| Xu_R | hehe. |
| kb9vqf | in my case gentoo would represent unmanageable administrative overhead :) |
| kb9vqf | so it was worth it to learn dpkg in all its gory detauls |
| kb9vqf | *details |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: thats why I use arch,... because it doesn't suck with dpepends |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: from what i heard from my friend who uses arch, they are pretty much the same |
| l0ner | gentoo and arch i mean |
| MutantTurkey | similar |
| MutantTurkey | . |
| MutantTurkey | but not identical |
| MutantTurkey | I think pacman is very sane for package managing. |
| l0ner | maybe some day i will try arch |
| MutantTurkey | alot of people make the switch from gentoo |
| l0ner | i imagine |
| l0ner | since first 4 attempts to install will fail :P |
| MutantTurkey | hahaha |
| l0ner | it was like this for me |
| l0ner | but back then gcc didn't accept CFLAGS="-march=native" |
| l0ner | one i set this wrong, second time i tried to install gentoo without multilib on 64bit system |
| l0ner | back then it was impossible to get working system without multilib |
| l0ner | third time i dont remember, but i think i had some issues with ld |
| l0ner | fourth finally was successful ;) |
| MutantTurkey | that is the greatest thing ever |
| MutantTurkey | -march=native is awesome. |
| l0ner | yeah :) |
| l0ner | it resolved problems with choosing right march |
| MutantTurkey | exactly |
| l0ner | on some strange processors like mine i3 |
| MutantTurkey | atom really benifits |
| MutantTurkey | because its stack is different |
| l0ner | I can imagine ;) |
| * l0ner never had atom based machine though | |
| MutantTurkey | I love it |
| MutantTurkey | i mean it pulls like 25W of power |
| MutantTurkey | at max load... |
| l0ner | whoah |
| MutantTurkey | yeah. |
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| kb9vqf | of course it's not much more powerful than a pocket calculator ;-) |
| Xu_R | XD |
| MutantTurkey | basically not :P |
| Xu_R | looks like l0ner abruptly exited... |
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| Xu_R | wb l0ner |
| l0ner | i accidentally hit ctrl+w |
| MutantTurkey | actually It ranks somewghere really low on the scale |
| Xu_R | oops lol |
| l0ner | which closes current tab in kvirc |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: my laptop pulls something around 50W on battery |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| l0ner | and 25W on ac plugged on |
| l0ner | and i cannot understand why |
| kb9vqf | graphics card |
| kb9vqf | Linux probably does not put it to sleep as it should |
| l0ner | maybe |
| kb9vqf | which graphics card manufacturer |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| l0ner | ati |
| MutantTurkey | also I love the atom because it has great support for linux |
| kb9vqf | yup |
| MutantTurkey | everything runs great. |
| kb9vqf | stinko |
| Xu_R | :P |
| MutantTurkey | only think I dislike is the lack of any processing power... |
| MutantTurkey | also the graphics card is weak |
| MutantTurkey | but the newer versions have improved considerably. |
| kb9vqf | that's how you get low power ;P |
| l0ner | I was monitoring everything with powertop and noticed that acpi is waking up the processor more on battery |
| l0ner | while on ac it isn't |
| kb9vqf | newer kernels should fix that |
| l0ner | i'm using 2.6.39 |
| l0ner | right now |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| kb9vqf | then I have no idea :) |
| MutantTurkey | not 3.0? |
| MutantTurkey | I mean we have 3.0 in our regular core now... |
| l0ner | gentoo don't have it yet in stable |
| kb9vqf | oh wait |
| kb9vqf | http://www.tech-info.com.ar/second-major-power-regression-found-in-linux-kernel-ubuntu/ |
| l0ner | it's masked right now |
| kb9vqf | 2.6.39 is the problem |
| MutantTurkey | arch is like bleeed bleed bleeding edge. |
| l0ner | lol |
| MutantTurkey | I run arch + testing branch. |
| MutantTurkey | but somehow Ihave never had a problem! |
| l0ner | ok, i'll update my kernel when 3.0 hits stable |
| l0ner | i thought it was because my laptop was samsung |
| MutantTurkey | samsung? |
| MutantTurkey | thats the problem |
| MutantTurkey | next time buy a better laptop xD |
| l0ner | and use some obscure thigns for power mngmnt |
| kb9vqf | odd hardware may not have full support from Linux |
| l0ner | i know |
| MutantTurkey | actually I have a few samsung products I really love |
| kb9vqf | also ACPI is sometimes handled by the BIOS |
| l0ner | but i didn't had much choice |
| l0ner | it was a present from my grandfather |
| kb9vqf | so the wakeup events may just increase due to the design of the laptop |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | I have a problem with ext4 |
| kb9vqf | e.g. the BIOS may be monitoring the battery more frequently, etc. |
| MutantTurkey | it won't let me hard drive sleep ever |
| MutantTurkey | it constantly writes back to me |
| l0ner | the only samsung devices i love are their tv |
| MutantTurkey | dumb journaling |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Increase the commit interval and use noatime |
| l0ner | anyway i'll look at my power issues after i managed to install trinity ;D |
| kb9vqf | noatime should do it alone in theory :)( |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I do... |
| MutantTurkey | and noatime is default |
| MutantTurkey | its the journaling writeback. |
| kb9vqf | no it isn't default |
| MutantTurkey | and even with a 1 minute commit, it's pointless |
| kb9vqf | I know from experience |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I mean for my systems :) |
| kb9vqf | oh, OK :) |
| MutantTurkey | I need to disable commits while not doing anything, |
| kb9vqf | no, you need to disable writing to disk when not doing anything |
| MutantTurkey | nothing writes to it though |
| MutantTurkey | it's jus the journal every 15 seconds or so |
| kb9vqf | you have a nasty little app somewhere that like to write to the disk |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| MutantTurkey | nope |
| MutantTurkey | I don't even run logs. |
| kb9vqf | that doesn't sound right |
| kb9vqf | the journal would only be updated if something is written to disk |
| MutantTurkey | I did a bit of research and It seems a few people has this problem |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | sounds weird |
| kb9vqf | on my systems ext4 is great |
| l0ner | kb9vgf: ok, so i found where my problem was, recompiled everyting and now i get this: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/454951/ |
| kb9vqf | ooh, nice |
| kb9vqf | what architecture are you on? |
| l0ner | x86_64 |
| MutantTurkey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607560 |
| MutantTurkey | that bug report just goes on and on |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Sounds like HAVE_SYS_STAT_H is unset |
| kb9vqf | are you compiling with CMake? |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | i followed the wiki |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Do you have sys/stat.h present on your system? |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: dunno, will look it up now. But i think not |
| kb9vqf | ok, that's your problem |
| kb9vqf | install whatever package provides it |
| kb9vqf | and rerun the entire compilation of kdelibs |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: ok, thx ;) |
| l0ner | will report how it has gone |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: wait, i think i found it in /usr/include/sys/stat.h |
| MutantTurkey | anyway, I've gotta catch the train i'll see you folks later! |
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| KingSphinx | I have gtk-qt-engine installed, but they aren't blending in. |
| KingSphinx | Do I need to tell GTK to use Qt styles in System Settings? |
| kb9vqf | KingSphinx: "Use my KDE style" |
| kb9vqf | then logout/login |
| kb9vqf | also, Firefox is a royal pain |
| kb9vqf | it likes to use its own widgets for several items |
| kb9vqf | Firefox 4 is worse in this respect |
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| KingSphinx | There we go, that fixed it. |
| kb9vqf | what did? |
| kb9vqf | oh, nevermind |
| kb9vqf | sorry |
| kb9vqf | l0ner_away: CMake can't find your sys/stat.h file |
| kb9vqf | you will need to look in its logs to figure out why |
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| l0ner_away | kb9vqf: ok, will look it up now |
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| l0ner | kb9vqf: "-- Looking for sys/stat.h - found" taken from cmake output |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: OK, in kdelibs/dcop/dcopserver.cpp, comment out the HAVE_SYS_STAT_H #ifdef and #endif |
| kb9vqf | then try recomliling |
| kb9vqf | *recompiling |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: as for now it's compiling |
| l0ner | uh... error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/454963/ |
| l0ner | here is the cmake optput: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/454964/ |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| kb9vqf | obviously the header autodetection system is not working on your system |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Ask on the mailing list with your logs |
| kb9vqf | I didn't write the CMake code for that function, and from what I can tell it should be working |
| kb9vqf | the only thing I can suggest is to look in the generated config.h file and make sure HAVE_SYS_STAT_H is set |
| l0ner | ok |
| kb9vqf | sorry I can't be of much more help here |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: no prob ;0 |
| l0ner | * :) |
| l0ner | anyway, it seems that HAVE_SYS_STAT_H is set, i found it in the config.h file |
| l0ner | i will ask on dev mailing list |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: it will be better to send message to the developers list, or the users one? |
| kb9vqf | developers |
| kb9vqf | it may take some time too |
| l0ner | ok, thx. Sending now |
| kb9vqf | Serghei Amelian will know the most about CMake |
| l0ner | uh... my message wasn't delivered |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Are you a list member? |
| l0ner | I subscribed before sending |
| kb9vqf | and did you get the confirmation message? |
| kb9vqf | for subscription that is |
| l0ner | yes |
| kb9vqf | where did you send you message to? |
| l0ner | trinity-devel@lists.pearsoncomputing.net |
| l0ner | but it tells me that only subscribers can send messages to the list |
| kb9vqf | which list did you subscribe to? |
| kb9vqf | you need to subscribe to trinity-devel |
| kb9vqf | not trinity-users |
| l0ner | and i subscribed by sending a empty mail to trinity-devel-subscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net |
| kb9vqf | what is your Email address? |
| l0ner | sh4dou@gmail.com |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: I manually added you |
| kb9vqf | you weren't subscribed |
| l0ner | ok, thx ;) |
| kb9vqf | np |
| l0ner | strange, since I recieved the confirmation mail |
| kb9vqf | I know |
| kb9vqf | sometimes weird things happen |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: you did respond to the confirmation email, right |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| l0ner | yep |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| l0ner | but now i got message from gmail that my message couldn't be sent |
| l0ner | maybe gmail webmail issues |
| kb9vqf | sounds like it |
| kb9vqf | that's why I don't question the failures |
| kb9vqf | it can fail at so many points |
| kb9vqf | and do so intermittently |
| l0ner | yes |
| kb9vqf | all I know is that my servers work :) |
| kb9vqf | it's up to everyone else's Email to work properly |
| l0ner | and the more complex the system is, the more it can broke |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | Google does glitch from time to time |
| l0ner | normally i'd use some app for my mail, but right now i have clean gentoo, only with gnome, and I can't setup the evolution to work properely |
| * l0ner is thinking about getting some sleep | |
| l0ner | well, I'll be back when when my actuall problem get resolved and I stumble over another ;P |
| l0ner | cy |
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| KingSphinx | Yay, Audacity seems to want to crash under Trinity... |
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| MutantTurkey | trying to do this all in a chroot :) |
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| KingSphinx | Is there any way to get Konqueror to use something besides KHTML or is that beyond the capabilities of this version of Konqueror? |
| kb9vqf | KHTMl is your only option |
| kb9vqf | I know the new one uses Webkit, but the new one is missing so many feature that it is unusable IMHO |
| kb9vqf | kind of like comparing Trinity's Konqueror to the mac file browser |
| kb9vqf | besides, Chrome is faster ;-) |
| KingSphinx | Eh, kinda expected that. The current Konqueror IMO wasn't too bad as a web browser (KHTML's made a ton of steps forward), but it's sort of forgotten how to be a good file manager. Sort of the opposite of this version. :P |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | so, use two separate apps |
| kb9vqf | let each be best for one thing for now :) |
| KingSphinx | Firefox does the job... plus it can actually save stuff. Chromium at the moment doesn't seem to want to let me save anything; it'll open up Nautilus' save dialog and whatnot, but it's not really saving anything because the download bar's not showing up. |
| KingSphinx | Not to mention Audacity seems to crash with kgtk-qt3 providing the open/save dialogs. |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: well I can test bugs now! |
| MutantTurkey | using rdesktop to my vps |
| kb9vqf | great! :) |
| kb9vqf | KingSphinx: I think that crash is fixed in SVN |
| MutantTurkey | so I will be hacking out bugs asap |
| kb9vqf | KingSphinx: if you are using 3.5.12 then I would expect the crash to exist |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: OK |
| kb9vqf | sounds very good |
| MutantTurkey | just trying to strip it down to help it run faster |
| MutantTurkey | over the network |
| MutantTurkey | so disabling stuff right now |
| MutantTurkey | looking back, the motif theme was just patheticly awful |
| MutantTurkey | frankly solaris and CDE all looked like crap... I mean it wasn't even simple it was just bad. |
| MutantTurkey | the themes were horrid |
| KingSphinx | I find a charm in the eye-gouging ugliness of it all. |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: I prefer simple themes, yet i still am unhappy with every one i find |
| MutantTurkey | actually this one I am using now is great |
| KingSphinx | Isn't Trinity's default theme the same one used in Kubuntu Hardy? |
| KingSphinx | Just with a new wallpaper? |
| kb9vqf | yeo |
| kb9vqf | *yep |
| kb9vqf | BTW Trinity contains several simple themes |
| KingSphinx | Yeah, I know, I've gone through them :) |
| kb9vqf | do you like Windows 2000? |
| kb9vqf | thw widget theme that is |
| kb9vqf | *the |
| * kb9vqf can't type...again | |
| MutantTurkey | light style 2 is my new fav |
| KingSphinx | I do like the style of Windows Classic (pretty much 95-2000), but not on my Linux partition. :P |
| MutantTurkey | I can't stand the new windows themes |
| MutantTurkey | the old ones I like due to simplicity |
| KingSphinx | It just doesn't look "right" having TDE look like old Windows... |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | just curious |
| kb9vqf | personally I use Lipstik |
| kb9vqf | it's relatively light and gives lots of information when widgets are hovered upon, etc. |
| MutantTurkey | is bug 229 still valid? It seems this is already included.. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=229 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, include kickoff menu with trinity |
| kb9vqf | reopened? |
| kb9vqf | why? |
| kb9vqf | It's definitely there :) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah.. |
| MutantTurkey | well robert left some message at the bottom |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| kb9vqf | great |
| kb9vqf | I don't support Kickoff |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| kb9vqf | if he wants to fix it then he can be my guest :) |
| MutantTurkey | since it stinks... |
| MutantTurkey | its really counter intuitive and requires alot more thought. |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | I hate it |
| kb9vqf | split the bug |
| MutantTurkey | mark as WONTFIX? |
| kb9vqf | create a new one for the Kickoff improvements, copy&paste his text, then mark this one closed |
| MutantTurkey | let me check them first |
| MutantTurkey | maybe an old probelm |
| KingSphinx | That said though (about the Redmond theme), it does do a good job replicating the Windows look. |
| kb9vqf | asteriod is much closer |
| MutantTurkey | redmond does a good job |
| kb9vqf | *asteroid |
| KingSphinx | I think KDE 4.8 might replace Kickoff with something else... |
| MutantTurkey | I can't get past nepomuk |
| MutantTurkey | it just kills me. |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: also make sure the new bug is marked lowest priority |
| kb9vqf | nepomuk STINKS |
| kb9vqf | there are parts of Windows I like |
| MutantTurkey | well most of his stuff works for me... |
| kb9vqf | but only up to Windows XP and the old interface |
| kb9vqf | (not the new "Crayola" one) |
| MutantTurkey | also, whats the state of our khtml? |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Say so in the new bug report |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Just as bad as ever |
| kb9vqf | it's a very low priority here |
| MutantTurkey | yes I assumed so |
| MutantTurkey | we are going to do a -> webkit right? |
| kb9vqf | as we have a handful of good web browsers available |
| KingSphinx | And I'm guessing unlikely to get any better? |
| MutantTurkey | tqt interface to webkit. :P |
| kb9vqf | firefox, chrome, opera, etc. |
| kb9vqf | eventually a KHTML->Webkit transition is planned, but I haven't even started |
| MutantTurkey | I love webkit (i have my own gtk webkit browser) |
| kb9vqf | volunteers are welcome :) |
| kb9vqf | actually as soon as we get completely off the Qt namespace we can integrate Webkit |
| kb9vqf | as the code is TQt ported we are very close |
| kb9vqf | to getting off the Qt namespace that is :)_ |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: looks like his remarks are invalid. |
| MutantTurkey | none seem to apply for me |
| kb9vqf | ok...but that still doesn't make the fact that he posted to a substantially different bug any better :-P |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to close it. |
| kb9vqf | mark it closed, mention that it works for you, and remind him that a new bug report should be filed |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
| MutantTurkey | just did that exactly |
| kb9vqf | ah, good, you can be trained :)) |
| KingSphinx | (yeah, still talking themes for the moment) Oddly, I find that the older KDE themes (oh-so-creatively titled "KDE 1" and "KDE 2") have a charm to their simplicity... just switched to KDE 2's look/icons. :) |
| MutantTurkey | how do we mark closed? resolved...? |
| kb9vqf | well, that's why I kept them around |
| kb9vqf | they are only a few Kb in size anyway |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Resolved Fixed |
| MutantTurkey | okay all done |
| MutantTurkey | are we going to ever get bugwatch@pearsoncomputing to foreward to the ML? if you care enough |
| MutantTurkey | or if you even wanted to. I know I mentioned it |
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| kb9vqf | ohhh...oops |
| kb9vqf | I forgot entirely |
| MutantTurkey | :)) |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | I don't even want to think about that right now, but.... |
| * kb9vqf sets a sticky note for himself | |
| kb9vqf | not sure if we want to flood the devel list with that stuff |
| kb9vqf | but a new list might be good |
| kb9vqf | trinity-bugs or something |
| MutantTurkey | good call |
| kb9vqf | and maybe one more...trinity-commits |
| kb9vqf | for when we move to GIT |
| MutantTurkey | I think you can do like weekly commit digests |
| * kb9vqf does not know how :P | |
| kb9vqf | but that is in the future |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Can you watch for kcrash actually generating a backtrace? |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't had anything crash. |
| kb9vqf | for some reason on my testing machine kcrash always comes up with "invalid backgrace" |
| kb9vqf | *backtrace |
| kb9vqf | and it is good that nothing crashed for you :) |
| MutantTurkey | I need to crash something. |
| kb9vqf | but I just want to make sure kcrash still works |
| kb9vqf | make sure you have the Trinity debug symbols and gdb installed before you try it of course :) |
| MutantTurkey | I probably need to go to bed actually :[ |
| MutantTurkey | which is really annoying because I am so excited I have trinity running! |
| MutantTurkey | its like 3:20am... |
| kb9vqf | so...do you like it so far? |
| MutantTurkey | of course I do! |
| kb9vqf | glad to hear it :)) |
| MutantTurkey | a few minor gripes |
| kb9vqf | file bug reports and fix them :) |
| kb9vqf | j/k ... well ... sort of ... |
| MutantTurkey | well there are plenty of bugs to work with as of now |
| MutantTurkey | I consider my self the bug admin ninja |
| MutantTurkey | I am swooping down on easy to fix ones and knocking them out |
| MutantTurkey | the administrative work of moving bugs and checking them out. leaving the coding to you :D |
| MutantTurkey | I actually tried to dig into kmail and almost passed out. |
| MutantTurkey | I am reading through a dcop vs dbus page now |
| kb9vqf | yeah, kinda nasty isn't it (kmail) |
| kb9vqf | dcop is here to stay BTW |
| MutantTurkey | Its a very large source |
| kb9vqf | it can do things that dbus can't |
| MutantTurkey | really? |
| kb9vqf | and dbus can do things that dcop can't |
| MutantTurkey | hurm |
| kb9vqf | so they need each other |
| MutantTurkey | okay well actually either way I don't care |
| kb9vqf | it's all backend stuff anyway |
| kb9vqf | and dcop has never given me problems |
| MutantTurkey | understood |
| kb9vqf | stay away from kdepim |
| MutantTurkey | scary? |
| kb9vqf | I am probably one of the only people on the planet that understand it |
| MutantTurkey | oh godness |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to stick with easier things then :) |
| kb9vqf | you will be happier :) |
| kb9vqf | fortunately kdepim is quite stable |
| kb9vqf | only a few niggling issues |
| MutantTurkey | my favorite thing about trinity |
| MutantTurkey | is that it is tried and tested of a long period of time |
| MutantTurkey | very stable in that sense |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: what is kio_http? |
| kb9vqf | it is the ioslave used to get http data |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | I believe it calls in KHTML to display it |
| MutantTurkey | with gnome3 failing miserably and calls for gnome2 forks, and the upcoming release, its a perfect time to fill the void |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | which is why I'm not futzing with Qt4 |
| kb9vqf | since we absorbed Qt3 I see no reason to switch at this time |
| MutantTurkey | my hope is to eventually use trinity as my control desktop for my studio |
| kb9vqf | Qt3 has a LOT of life left in it, especially once we get off the Qt namespace |
| MutantTurkey | what is the "Qt namespace" |
| MutantTurkey | I don't get it :P |
| kb9vqf | first some history :) |
| kb9vqf | C/C++ uses symbol lookups to get the correct functions within a dhared library |
| MutantTurkey | KSirc is nice! well much nicer than kivrc. |
| kb9vqf | they look up by name |
| MutantTurkey | right, that is familiar |
| kb9vqf | ksirc is Trinity? |
| MutantTurkey | no idea. somehow i have it. |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| MutantTurkey | I think it must be |
| MutantTurkey | anyway back to Qt namesparce |
| kb9vqf | yes it is |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | basically, Qt3 cannot be compiled in with Qt4 in the same program for one reason alone: |
| kb9vqf | the symbol names would be identical, and the linker would have no idea which version to use |
| kb9vqf | e.g. QWidget::show() |
| kb9vqf | Qt3 or Qt4? |
| kb9vqf | data objects |
| kb9vqf | QWidget: which one? |
| kb9vqf | etc. |
| MutantTurkey | thats terrible |
| kb9vqf | That collection of classes is referred to as a namespace |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | so now they all use what instead? |
| kb9vqf | well, not exactly, but I'm saying it is :) |
| kb9vqf | so if we use TQWidget, TQObject, etc. we can have Qt3 and Qt4 coexist perfectly |
| kb9vqf | technically it would then be TQt3 and Qt4 :) |
| kb9vqf | you could say we moved our namespace from Qt to TQt |
| kb9vqf | no more symbol clashes |
| kb9vqf | that also would allow us to use pure Qt4 code where needed |
| kb9vqf | within Trinity |
| kb9vqf | e.g. :drumroll: Webkit! |
| MutantTurkey | but for regular users... no difference |
| MutantTurkey | or while compiling? |
| kb9vqf | exactly |
| kb9vqf | no difference at all, not even when compiling (except that they need to install TQt3, not Qt3) |
| MutantTurkey | so from the other side, the distro ecosystem |
| kb9vqf | but we are paving the way now with Qt3 in our GIT tree |
| MutantTurkey | all they need to do is pull upstream |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MutantTurkey | (us) |
| MutantTurkey | hrm |
| MutantTurkey | have you talked to any distros yet? |
| kb9vqf | nope |
| kb9vqf | not going to either |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | not yet |
| MutantTurkey | understood |
| kb9vqf | as far as I'm concerned if Trinity is the last Qt3 app then we can absorb Qt3 without anyone even caring |
| kb9vqf | then Qt3 just becomes part of kdelibs |
| kb9vqf | so to speak |
| kb9vqf | and Trinity should be treated as a pure X application |
| kb9vqf | as the only hooks lower than Qt3 are to XLib and friends |
| kb9vqf | make sense? |
| kb9vqf | Qt3 still can't be beat for speed |
| MutantTurkey | Qt3 is faster than qt4 assumed |
| kb9vqf | assumed? |
| kb9vqf | try it :) |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't seen benchmarks :P |
| kb9vqf | it is much slower in GFX |
| MutantTurkey | but same goes for gtk1x and gtk2 |
| kb9vqf | partially due to the new double buffering, etc. |
| kb9vqf | (which can't be turned off...grr....) |
| MutantTurkey | annoying |
| kb9vqf | it's a memory pig |
| kb9vqf | the classes are smaller, meaning more code goes into the end application |
| kb9vqf | it's good for many smaller apps, but NOT GOOD for a full desktop IMHO |
| MutantTurkey | everything new is a memory pig |
| MutantTurkey | though kde3 isn't exactly the most conservative :P |
| kb9vqf | and you've seen some of the other fun with the QString to double conversions |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I've seen it. |
| kb9vqf | it's an unstable mess |
| kb9vqf | like I said, great for a lot of apps |
| kb9vqf | but for huge apps it's a royal pain |
| MutantTurkey | i mean, that's something so basic... it should even be a problem. |
| kb9vqf | I know |
| kb9vqf | now figure how many similar problems there are in codepaths that aren't commonly used on mobile telephones... |
| kb9vqf | :yikes: |
| kb9vqf | Qt3 is STABLE |
| kb9vqf | kind of like Xlib |
| MutantTurkey | Xlib is terrible though :P |
| kb9vqf | Yes it is |
| MutantTurkey | have you seen xcb? |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| MutantTurkey | it's awesome |
| MutantTurkey | it's the new (actually like 2006ish) |
| MutantTurkey | standard |
| MutantTurkey | X C Bindings, wayy faster. |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | no, not really |
| MutantTurkey | frankly I hate the whole X11 stack |
| MutantTurkey | i think it doesn't make sense for a desktop |
| kb9vqf | not sure |
| MutantTurkey | the server/client nature of it was good in 1985 with one mainframe. |
| kb9vqf | especially with the trend towards mainframes again |
| MutantTurkey | good point |
| kb9vqf | BTW xcb is not always faster http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xcb/2009-February/004321.html |
| kb9vqf | It's one of Qt4's problems :P |
| MutantTurkey | interesting |
| MutantTurkey | I still think xlib is a PITA |
| kb9vqf | and Qt3 abstracts us from that |
| kb9vqf | I say stick with the tried and true for something as basic as a desktop |
| kb9vqf | unless you don't have the features needed |
| kb9vqf | which I have yet to come across |
| kb9vqf | leave the experimentation to video games and apps that *need* that much power |
| kb9vqf | and the risk of instability |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| kb9vqf | *at |
| MutantTurkey | I wish we had something like mac or windows, the video component in the kernel |
| MutantTurkey | many people are warey of it |
| kb9vqf | we're getting there |
| kb9vqf | kms |
| MutantTurkey | I know |
| kb9vqf | looks good to me |
| MutantTurkey | http://microxwin.com |
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| MutantTurkey | kernel module x server |
| kb9vqf | page is down |
| * l0ner is watching silently | |
| MutantTurkey | performance is crazy better |
| kb9vqf | actually I use the nvidia open source driver |
| kb9vqf | works well for me *and* I get full XRandR 1.2 support |
| MutantTurkey | intel has great support luckily |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | i guess its because it's so simple... :P |
| kb9vqf | Intel is very good there |
| MutantTurkey | no performance, but all the stability |
| kb9vqf | hey...it runs Compiz! |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | a workhorse for business |
| kb9vqf | actually I'd prefer that |
| kb9vqf | once you go to the Quadro series though NVidia is pretty good |
| MutantTurkey | alright almost 4am... need to sleep :P |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | me too |
| MutantTurkey | luckily I have the afternoon shift tomorrow. 1pm! |
| MutantTurkey | so still a good 8 hours of sleep |
| l0ner | so, form whats is written on the microxwin page, it can be easily used as a replacement for x11? |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: with some work |
| MutantTurkey | I have run it following his instructions |
| MutantTurkey | basically the problem is that it is a closed source kernel module |
| MutantTurkey | (which isn't that ridiculous, seeing as we have plenty of binay driver blobs) |
| l0ner | yes |
| MutantTurkey | but the theory is there. |
| MutantTurkey | if only someone would make an open source version of it. |
| l0ner | but because of that it wont get mainstream |
| MutantTurkey | If i win lottery, I am purchasing it from him. |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| l0ner | good luck ;) |
| l0ner | but i have seen somewere something like that |
| MutantTurkey | anyway |
| l0ner | don't remember where tho |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to sleep. |
| l0ner | g'nite ;) |
| MutantTurkey | I'll talk to you all tomorrow sometime actually thurdsay probably. |
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| l0ner | it's strange, people goes tho sleep when I have just woken up |
| * l0ner blames(?) TMZ difference | |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 487 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=487 normal, P2, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KPDF Page Scrolling Broken When Using Keyboard |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 485 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=485 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kbookreader needs packaging |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 488 filed by remibouhl@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=488 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kolourpaint, okular (maybe others) are frozen by defuncted SSHFS mount. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 489 filed by raevynsrequiem@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=489 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Pidgin Fails to launch |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 489 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 484 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=484 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Qt3 needs patching to build under ARM |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 253 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=253 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Radio buttons and check boxes do not display properly when toggled |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 408 from kdeutils to debian. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=408 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Conflict, when install basket from KDE4 and from trinity in debian squeeze |
| tbottu | 10robxu9@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 459 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=459 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Detecting $KDEHOME to avoid conflicts with KDE3 and KDE4 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 490 filed by sh4dou@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=490 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, adding support for PulseAudio application volume control |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 491 filed by sh4dou@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=491 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Desktop panel auto length |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 229 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=229 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, include kickoff menu with trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 492 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=492 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdmctl cannot parse active sessions |
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| KingSphinx | I'm running update-manager to upgrade Trinity to 11.04, but I have a few concerns before I start the upgrade... |
| KingSphinx | kde-guidance-kde3, kde-guidance-powermanager-kde3, openoffice.org-kde3, guidance-backends-kde3 and python-kde3-kde3 want to be removed. Are any of these essential? |
| Piki | KingSphinx: i don't use ubuntu, so i can't help, but if nobody answers soon, the best thing to do would be to back up your data before upgrading |
| KingSphinx | That's fine, I can wait for someone to help. Plus my /home's on a separate partition, so I can just reinstall if something goes wrong. |
| Piki | the best suggestion i have there is to see if there are tde equivalents. openoffice.org-kde and python-kde3 shouldn't be needed, those are just extensions, and powermanager should only be needed for laptops or changing cpu frequencies if the cpu supports that |
| Piki | not sure about the others |
| Xu_R | meepmeep |
| Xu_R | hey Piki, KingSphinx |
| Xu_R | KingSphinx: only up to 11.04 if you want to use nightly builds... heh... heh... d: |
| Xu_R | *D: |
| Xu_R | looks like tbottu is working again... after a momentarily spaz in bug reports... |
| kb9vqf | those were all the bug reports that were queued up |
| kb9vqf | I didn't realize the but watch account was blocked until last night :-/ |
| kb9vqf | *bug |
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| Xu_R | :-\ |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: hey, I just noticed something |
| Xu_R | ah, damnit, I missed |
| Xu_R | I feel happy for openSUSE now :D |
| KingSphinx | Why? Did Trinity get ported to it? |
| Xu_R | well, KDE3 is back in the main distribution (aka, again supported) |
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| Xu_R | I'm the one that's supposed to be porting it to SuSE, so I better work fast XD |
| * Xu_R notes however that real-life work is catching up with him... | |
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| MT | kb9vqf: hey |
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| MT | is bug 365 valid? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=365 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, GPG Key and Repositories not Accessible |
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| KingSphinx | Well, Unity installed without much trouble. Only major issue seems to be that the Ubuntu Software Center doesn't seem to want to install stuff; apt-get is a workaround though. |
| MT | I dont like Ubuntu |
| MT | they have like 150000 ways to access packaging |
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| KingSphinx | "If one breaks, there's another way to get around it" is how I see it |
| mutantturkey | kb9vqf: I also closed bug 322 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=322 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdegraphics build warnings |
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| mutantturkey | yeah... arch has one that never breaks :D |
| KingSphinx | Just curious... are you using Trinity in Arch? Didn't think there was an "official" build for that yet... |
| mutantturkey | I am working on it. progress has slowed. |
| KingSphinx | Ah |
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| KingSphinx | Great... I have no sound at all. Not even in Trinity now. |
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| Xu_R | DX |
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| backwoodsman | anyone awake? |
| backwoodsman | anyone know if the Maverick install instructions will work on Natty? |
| mutantturkey | hey |
| mutantturkey | I think on the hone page there is a news bulletin about natty |
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| KingSphinx | Alright, got my sound back... at least for now. :) |
| Qu4Z | Yay! |
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| MutantTurkey | saw a trinity mention on reddit yesterday |
| MutantTurkey | the one complaint: debian only |
| MutantTurkey | so geting more distros on it would be great in terms of opening it up |
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| MTurkey | kb9vqf: did you see why |
| MTurkey | what I said yesterday |
| MTurkey | I LT was about a bug |
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| l0ner | Just an idea: could someone add informations that compilation of qt3 from your git is required to compile tqt? and how-to would be nice too. |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I can't push to tde-packaging |
| Xu_R | error: no DAV locking support |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| kb9vqf | huh? |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: How did you check out that repository? |
| kb9vqf | sounds like you used the wrong URL |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: nope, used the right URL |
| kb9vqf | which was? |
| Xu_R | error: no DAV locking support on http://rxu@scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde-packaging/ |
| Xu_R | fatal: git-http-push failed |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| Xu_R | or... i'm sure that's the right url ^^" |
| kb9vqf | I just committed some stuff of my own earlier today |
| kb9vqf | so it *should* be working |
| kb9vqf | I assume you are doing "git push origin master"? |
| Xu_R | yup |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: just letting you know I'll be gone till sunday. but in case the world ends or anything I have email where i'm at |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Does it ask for a password then fail, or does it fail before the password? |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Xu_R | asks for a password twice then fails |
| kb9vqf | sounds like a wrong password |
| Xu_R | pretty sure it isn't... |
| kb9vqf | well it works for me... |
| kb9vqf | can you check out a new copy with the same password? |
| Xu_R | trying... |
| Xu_R | yea, that same password works |
| kb9vqf | very odd |
| kb9vqf | let me try checking something in |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Works for me :-/ |
| Xu_R | D: |
| Xu_R | I'll try again :-\ |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R You don't have write access |
| kb9vqf | did you cange your password yet? |
| kb9vqf | *change |
| Xu_R | I changed my password already... |
| Xu_R | twice... |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I never granted you access |
| Xu_R | >_>" |
| kb9vqf | because I didn't know it had been changed yet |
| kb9vqf | the default is not secure... |
| Xu_R | ah... |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Fixed :) |
| Xu_R | :D |
| kb9vqf | don't you hate git's obscure error messages though? |
| Xu_R | guess so :-\ |
| Xu_R | but a google search came a bit closer :P |
| Xu_R | pushed some stuff :D |
| kb9vqf | looking good...though I admit I don't know much about the RPM build process ;-) |
| Xu_R | hehe ;P and I admit I have no clue about debian packaging |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: do you think it's ok if I start naming packages like tde-kdelibs instead of kdelibs3 or kdelibs-trinity? |
| kb9vqf | how about tdelibs |
| kb9vqf | the -trinity extension in Ubuntu/Debian is legacy ;-) |
| Xu_R | just start replacing kde with tde now? |
| kb9vqf | go ahead since you are starting anew |
| Xu_R | ah, ok. because I was thinking that might not be what you would like :) |
| kb9vqf | Debian/Ubuntu is a bit trickier because of the relatively long history |
| kb9vqf | people are used to searching for *-trinity |
| kb9vqf | or *-kde3 |
| Xu_R | ah, true |
| kb9vqf | I don't want to keep "kde" in the names if we don't have to |
| Xu_R | ok |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 322 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| kb9vqf | grr, bugwatch stalled again |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=322 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdegraphics build warnings |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 493 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=493 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kkbswitch needs packaging |
| Xu_R | tbottu doesn't like bugwatch very much... |
| tbottu | Xu_R: Error: "doesn't" is not a valid command. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=100 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Keyboard layout switcher does not work |
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| mturkey | hey there |
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| sinedeviance | hi all! i was wondering if any of you know how large trinity-desktop is installed? |
| sinedeviance | i am asking because i have a debian server that i have installed it onto. my / partition only has the base system, mysql/apache2/php, htop, and trinity-desktop installed, but for some reason my partition is showing 4.5gb of usage. this seems really strange |
| sinedeviance | if nobody knows, can you tell me how to completely remove trinity-desktop so i can check my partition size after removal and then reinstall? |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R|ZNC: can you take a look at Bug 100 if you have time? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=100 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Keyboard layout switcher does not work |
| kb9vqf | it sounds simple enough to fix |
| kb9vqf | (though I would definitely verify that it is still present in the latest SVN before working on it) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 494 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=494 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, nspluginviewer fix in r1224648 fails with Adobe flash 10.3 and flash 11beta |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 495 filed by ogldelphi@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=495 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, add DSL support in knetworkmanager |
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| Xu_R | hey MutantTurkey |
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| MutantTurkey | hey just got back |
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| Xu_R | !seen kb9vqf |
| tbottu | Xu_R: kb9vqf was last seen in #trinity-desktop 1 day, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <kb9vqf> (though I would definitely verify that it is still present in the latest SVN before working on it) |
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| Aristide | Hi ! ^^ |
| Aristide | Do you have a repositories for SUSE ? |
| Xu_R | not yet D: |
| * Xu_R is working on his spare time to bring them to SuSE | |
| Aristide | Ok :) |
| Xu_R | I suggest you use KDE:KDE3 for now though. |
| Xu_R | (or XFCE ;P) |
| Aristide | KDE:KDE3 ... |
| Aristide | Ok |
| Aristide | Xu_R: So, can i install KDE3 without uninstall KDE4 ? |
| Xu_R | Aristide: yes. Both can be installed side by side |
| Aristide | Yes |
| Aristide | YES ! |
| Aristide | I go try to install it o/ |
| Xu_R | :D |
| Xu_R | There's still an active opensuse-kde3 mailing list~~ |
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| a^phorce | l |
| tbottu | 10ogldelphi@mail.ru changed the Status on bug 42 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=42 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, gtk-qt-engine-kde3 does not work properly |
| tbottu | 10ogldelphi@mail.ru changed the Status on bug 429 from NEEDINFO to UNCONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=429 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, UNCONFIRMED, Kicker crashes because of Esc key |
| tbottu | 10ogldelphi@mail.ru changed the Status on bug 429 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
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| MutantTurkey | hey all |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 492 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=492 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdmctl cannot parse active sessions |
| ab__ | you guys are awesome |
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| Xu_R | !seen kb9vqf |
| tbottu | Xu_R: kb9vqf was last seen in #trinity-desktop 2 days, 18 hours, 54 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <kb9vqf> (though I would definitely verify that it is still present in the latest SVN before working on it) |
| Xu_R | darn it, where is he... |
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| l0ner | Xu_R: No prob ;) |
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| Xu_R | l0ner: :D |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 496 filed by ogldelphi@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=496 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, knetworkmanager-trinity 3.5.12 doesn't work with TDE 3.5.13 |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: saw your page on the etherpad about converting to nightly builds |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: nice |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: also i email tim with an updated relatedproject.php |
| MutantTurkey | added qt3 into it |
| MutantTurkey | is that good you thjink? |
| Xu_R | probably a good idea, since we became upstream... |
| MutantTurkey | supossedly :P |
| Xu_R | hehe |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 496 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=496 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, knetworkmanager-trinity 3.5.12 doesn't work with TDE 3.5.13 |
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| Space_Man | what is best distro to use that is up to date and uses fglrx? |
| Space_Man | or has an easy method to install fglrx? |
| Xu_R | ubuntu + derivatives, or maybe ATi's repo for openSUSE... iouno truthfully. my ATi card is on windows ;P |
| Space_Man | I was thinking about ubuntu, but how do you install the latest version (11.04) with trinity? |
| Space_Man | mint debian is another option |
| Xu_R | use maverick builds for now, unless you want to use nightly ;P |
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| Piki | hi |
| strangelv | :: had dependancy problems trying to install TDE Meerkat packages to a Natty USB drive |
| strangelv | "Hello |
| strangelv | So I'm not suer if Meekrkat packages work with Natty right now |
| strangelv | "This was al/slo sthe 32 bit version, which I don't normally use |
| * strangelv 's subnotebook/netbook has a 32 bit Centaur CPU | |
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| Xu_R | strangelv: really? D: |
| Xu_R | you wanna try nightly? it's pretty broken, and there's no meta packages, but it's worth a shot if you know what to install ;P |
| strangelv | "I might try that sometime, although it was mostly an expecriment. The amin thing I needed to do was reset my clock to before 2002 so fsck wouldn't freak out and prevent mounting of any HD partitions |
| strangelv | "I set it to 2 January 1970 |
| strangelv | "Up and running right now; may need to repat the exercise if the CMOS doesn't keep enough of a charge. Teed ot buyp a new battery for it. |
| * strangelv is too close to falling asleep to ask forl directions for nightly | |
| strangelv | "My new hardware problem is a monitor that doesn't seem to work with anything newer than Jaunty |
| Xu_R | :-\ |
| Xu_R | go to sleep, figure it out in the morning. |
| strangelv | It's always been delicat eand prone to showing me a screen consitting of a red rectangle with OUT OF RANGE in screaming capitals |
| strangelv | "I tried installing Meerkat server, and it goes out of range on text. Linux always changes the text mode a couple of seconds into initialization. That text mode change sends it out of bounds |
| strangelv | "Basically, it's completely unusable as a bench display |
| * strangelv 's effort to get back up to speed in Python with a wiki page cerating script at least is going okay, not that he's aware of anything that TDE needs scripted in Python | |
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| Piki | hi |
| Xu_R | hello Piki |
| Piki | hi Xu_R |
| Xu_R | anything new? |
| Piki | nope |
| Piki | trying to see if BQ is alive. she's apparently online, just not in any channels according to her /whois |
| Xu_R | well, she's been busy lately |
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| Piki | that was dumb :-( |
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| Xu_R | accidental exiting? |
| Piki | Xu_R: incorrect comman, typed /quit instead of /part |
| Xu_R | nice. |
| Piki | so konversation stayed open, but i d/ced from freenode |
| Xu_R | I know what /quit is xP |
| Piki | some clients actually quit instead of just d/cing :-) |
| Xu_R | i know, but I'm talking standard behavior :P |
| Xu_R | have you started packaging Trinity for ark? |
| Piki | i'm waiting for bero to put out an iso with recent packages included |
| Piki | manually upgrading packages via command line seems to be causing a lot of issues for me |
| Piki | and AFAIK bero hasn't fixed zypper/apt-rpm |
| Xu_R | Piki: you don't need to test the spec files right away - just write them out based on the old ones |
| Xu_R | you can test them when a new iso comes out |
| Piki | i know, i prefer to do the packages when i do the specs |
| Piki | i don't know why, just feels more comfortable for my work flow |
| Xu_R | Piki: yea... I know how it feels, but it's going to be a time waster... easier to take the old srpms, unrpm them, mod the spec, and then test later |
| Piki | we've wasted a lot of time already, and it's looking like we're not releasing any time soon :-) |
| Xu_R | where did you get that? |
| Xu_R | we're only stuck on bug fixing? |
| Piki | i'm talking ark |
| Xu_R | ah, ark. |
| Piki | we used to do a release every year, our last release was in 2008, and bero's taking his time with the new iso |
| Xu_R | I may have a solution to ark's rpm problem (thanks, jbj) but from therein I don't know. |
| Piki | rpm works fine in ark, we just need to either a) setup apt-rpm5, or b) finish porting zypper to rpm5 |
| Xu_R | oh, oops. s/rpm/zypper |
| Piki | the problem i'm having with manually upgrading is a bad package from bero |
| Piki | Xu_R: hmm? |
| Xu_R | I meant I have a solution to libzypp/libsatsolver/zypper... |
| Piki | ok |
| Xu_R | (courtesy of Yacto/Poky Linux) |
| Piki | ok |
| Xu_R | Piki: oh, and btw, we migrated SVN.td to GIT.td |
| Xu_R | Piki: git.trinitydesktop.org |
| * Xu_R guesses you already knew that anyway | |
| Piki | Xu_R: you can email the solution to bero@arklinux.org, he seems to have fixed the mail server to forward to the correct email |
| Piki | no, i didn't know |
| Xu_R | Piki: I know his email address, just need to make sure he's actually there ;P |
| Piki | haven't been paying much attention lately, haven't spent as much time as usual at the computer (no reason, really, just been stressed out lately) |
| Piki | Xu_R: his email wasn't working, it existed on arklinux.org and the mail server works correctly, but he was having it forward to his work email, which he had to change when he got his new job, and it works now |
| Xu_R | Piki: I knew about it. I know he email address has been working for a while now - I emailed him last month or so and he responded right away. |
| Xu_R | it's bero@arklinux.ch |
| Piki | that too |
| Piki | i normally send it to .org, but the mail server can use both .org and .ch |
| Piki | was my version control access migrated from svn to git |
| Piki | ? |
| Xu_R | Piki: no, you need a new account |
| Xu_R | Piki: in addition, no data was kept on the migration |
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| Piki | Xu_R: no biggie, i didn't upload anything important |
| Piki | i guess i need to email tim? |
| Xu_R | yea. |
| Piki | email sent |
| Piki | being that i'm new to git, i need to ask, would the command be "git clone something"? |
| Piki | for a checkout? |
| Xu_R | well, yes |
| Xu_R | except GIT doesn't do checkouts, it's cloning |
| Xu_R | because GIT essentially downloads the whole repo to your folder |
| Piki | what's the clone url for tde-packaging? |
| Xu_R | you'll get it with your account info |
| Piki | ok |
| Xu_R | because your clone url needs to have your username in it |
| Piki | how do i commit? |
| Xu_R | you know what, let me just put a readme file at the root of the repo so that it's easy to get adjusted |
| Piki | ok |
| Xu_R | Piki: I made the README, it should show up |
| Piki | ok |
| Xu_R | yup, it showed up now |
| Piki | just read it, i'll probably be referring to it a lot until i get used to git :-) |
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| Xu_R | it's really not that different |
| Xu_R | damnit. hold on, restarting XChat |
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| Xu_R | back |
| Piki | ok O.o |
| * Xu_R actually restarted XChat - ZNC just keeps me online | |
| Piki | znc? |
| Xu_R | yea |
| Piki | never heard of it |
| Xu_R | znc, bnc, etc... let's you exit your client but keeps you connected and logs while you're not connected |
| Piki | is it like where i have a desktop running an irc client with my nick connected, then i can, e.g. use my laptop to connect to the desktop via my local router and attach the client on my laptop to the irc connection already on the desktop? |
| Xu_R | Piki: yea. you can have no clients or you can 10 clients |
| Xu_R | you'll still be logged in |
| Piki | i've also heard of people running a client like irssi in a screen session to remain connected, and they can detach from screen whenever they're leaving the computer |
| Xu_R | yea, that's possible. |
| ar | Xu_R: all you can the the better thing and run irssi in tmux/screen |
| Xu_R | ar: I already have ZNC set up, and it served me well, especially in china, where you can't use ssh. |
| Xu_R | I'll stick with my ZNC ^^ |
| ar | Xu_R: you can't? |
| ar | that's interesting |
| Xu_R | ar: nope. cryptography like ssh is banned in china. the biggest PITA ever. |
| Xu_R | closest thing to that is webssh, and that is pretty terrible. most websshs are blocked by the great firewall, too. |
| ar | i'm running my own "webssh" on my own server |
| Piki | webssh is just ssh through a web browser, still cryptography :-) |
| ar | http://code.google.com/p/shellinabox/ |
| Xu_R | ar: if only (i didn't have a freaking DSL connection) |
| Xu_R | Piki: easier than getting portblocked from everywhere. damn ISP. |
| Piki | Xu_R: i need to use webssh and webchat at the local community college, they like knowing exactly what we're doing :-) |
| Piki | if only i could use an ssh tunnel from behind their firewall :-( |
| Piki | but port 22 is blocked, and i'm pretty sure they block the port i use for ssh on my server |
| Xu_R | ok, let me try this again. they blocked freenode in china. they blocked ssh ports. they can detect VPN connections and kill them. |
| ar | i also have a nice hack on my server |
| ar | if i hit a special url via https, the next connection from my current ip gets passed to openvpn instead of httpd |
| Xu_R | ar: wow, nice |
| ar | nothing special. just a simple cgi script with extra permisions and a bit of iptables magic |
| Xu_R | not bad. |
| ar | had an idea about actually making it a proper webapp with "special urls" being usable only once and randomly generated |
| ar | but, as always, time's an issue |
| Xu_R | always is |
| Xu_R | detach #opensuse-buildservice |
| Xu_R | eek, oops. |
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| Xu_R | scheduled a bug day (august meeting) for next tuesday |
| Xu_R | this was long overdue. |
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| Qu4Z | Hm... are there any plans to fix konqueror's file browsing ability? It used to be half decent, now it's decidedly sub-par. Which is a shame, 'cause it's an awesome program. |
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| Piki | hi |
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| Xu_R | why hello thar people |
| Space_Man | hi Piki, Xu_R |
| Xu_R | hey Space_Man |
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| strangelv | Qu4Z: what seems to be broken? |
| strangelv | "...and what are you running |
| strangelv | :: isn't have thourble, but he's still running Meerkat TDE Kubuntu |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 497 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=497 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, run dialog enhancement |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: ilya said he has patches for hal? |
| MutantTurkey | thats aweome |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: he claims that. |
| Xu_R | but I haven't seen anything to indicate that |
| Xu_R | in fact, he was asking about reincluding HAL into factory, so I think he's just making that up in the end. |
| * Xu_R notes that I may have missed something | |
| Xu_R | yea, Ilya seems to be bragging. |
| Xu_R | The closest I can come to what he says is some udev rules about automounting |
| Xu_R | (and that has nothing to do with integration with KDE3) |
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| MutantTurkey | okay. |
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| KingSphinx | Assuming packages aren't ready in time for Ocelot, will upgrading to 11.10 be the same situation as the 10.10-11.04 deal or will additonal steps need to be taken? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 498 filed by ogldelphi@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=498 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, moreblue-orbit-moodin doesn't look correct on widescreen |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 499 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=499 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Knotes resizing corner doesn't always activate on focus |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 499 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=499 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Knotes resizing corner doesn't always activate on focus |
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| Space_Man | woo hoo, I'm now using trinity 3.5.12 but what has happened to knemo and kdegames? |
| Space_Man | installed kubuntu 10.10 and then upgraded to 11.04 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 500 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=500 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add window docking application to Trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 501 filed by e_r_i_c@gmx.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=501 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Sylpheed 3.0.2 crashes on saving an attachment |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 502 filed by ogldelphi@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=502 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, backport dolphin kde4 "show some pics from a directory on folder icon" feature |
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| MutantTurkey | jumpship: I put down 20 |
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| MutantTurkey | storms... |
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| cpatrick08 | hi |
| MutantTurkey | hi! |
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| cpatrick08 | sorry about that printscreen was putting alot of screens out |
| cpatrick08 | i love this os so much good job |
| jumpship | Yeah, it's nice to see someone take this on, these guys are gods in my book |
| cpatrick08 | now if somebody could fork gnome 2 then both gnome 3 and kde 4 haters would be happy |
| Qu4Z | Mentioning Gnome in a kde channel... you're trading on dangerous ground :P |
| Qu4Z | *treading |
| cpatrick08 | yea |
| jumpship | I think the Gnome2 crowd might be happy with XFCE, I didn't care for either, but XFCE seemed pretty similar to Gnome2 (or at least on it's way there) |
| cpatrick08 | true |
| Qu4Z | But you're right. What is it with DE developers and suddenly going off and doing their own completely useless thing :/ |
| cpatrick08 | it looks like it is for tablets just like unity looks like it is for tablets also |
| jumpship | but without Trinity I'd have been left in the cold when Debian moved to KDE4 |
| Qu4Z | Tablets are overrated |
| jumpship | I think they got bored |
| cpatrick08 | yea Tablets are overrated |
| Qu4Z | I'd buy one if it came with a wallmount and a dvi port and I could use it as an extra monitor for my desktop, though :P |
| jumpship | I'm only interested when a cell or similar service lets me connect it live to my desktop |
| cpatrick08 | the only touch thing i like is the ipod touch |
| Qu4Z | I dunno. I think if I could use it as a monitor most of the time, sync files to it wirelessly, and then take it with me when I left I'd be vaguely interested. |
| jumpship | like a mobile thin client |
| Qu4Z | jumpship: My concern there would be latency |
| Qu4Z | Unresponsive interfaces are a PITA |
| jumpship | sure, the tech isn't there yet, and the services seem to be moving to wrong way |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, if it were responsive, that'd be awesome. |
| cpatrick08 | that is true |
| jumpship | even being able to do it over wifi around the house would be nice, but the price is too high for what I want right now |
| cpatrick08 | yea tablets do cost alot |
| Qu4Z | Well, if it were usable as a monitor the rest of the time that'd offset the cost a bit for me, I think. |
| Qu4Z | But yes, they're friggin' expensive. |
| jumpship | I'd really like a modular mobile setup, sorta like how open a desktop is, but portable |
| jumpship | I would spend the money on a tablet if I could find one with a line in for audio, for less than $400, but I havn't see one yet |
| cpatrick08 | the Coby Kyros MID7015 7-Inch Android has that for less than $200 http://www.amazon.com/Coby-MID7015-Android-Internet-Touchscreen/dp/B0047Q9GT4 |
| cpatrick08 | it has a hdmi slot and a usb 2.0 slot |
| Qu4Z | I really want to just take a subset of my PC with me :P |
| Qu4Z | Like, the keyboard, and a screen. Plug them together, and ... TADA |
| jumpship | I see those, that would be nice, but I didn't see a line in, my goal would be to use linux with jack on top, I think it would be cool to use it as a dsp |
| jumpship | wouldn't vnc or rdp let you use it as a second monitor, I seem to remember a system for using a second computer to drive a second monitor, don't know how well it would work, but sounds like fun to try |
| cpatrick08 | i am running trinity on the maverick and i was wonderig if anybody has tried it on squeeze if so is it better than the ubuntu tde |
| jumpship | I use squeeze, I havn't tried Ubuntu, but I think Ubuntu is what the developers use |
| cpatrick08 | ok you like it i was thinking bout switching from ubuntu to squeeze tde |
| jumpship | It's hard to say, they are very similar, I like Debian, but I've had a few little problems I suspect are because the developers use Ubuntu, for example Ubuntu uses sudo and Debian uses su, you can use either with both I guess |
| jumpship | The current bug of the week is a good example of the problems I've seen |
| cpatrick08 | yea so what problems do you face jumpship |
| jumpship | I switched to using sudo instead of su to avoid the bug, other than that I can't remember exactly, I don't know that TDE is really any different in either |
| cpatrick08 | yea but i herd the debian base is more stable than the ubuntu base |
| jumpship | I guess it depends on what you mean by stable, as in not changing or not crashing |
| cpatrick08 | less bugs |
| jumpship | I really couldn't say about ubuntu, but Squeeze has been very good to me |
| jumpship | You might try the mailing list, noone seems to be in here today |
| cpatrick08 | ok |
| cpatrick08 | gotta go ttyl |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 503 filed by ogldelphi@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=503 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmix wont autostart |
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| Kodo_ | hello |
| Kodo_ | i've just installed trinity desktop, and run into a problem.. |
| Kodo_ | i try to mount a home where i've used kde 3.5.10; i have already found out that i had to rename .kde to .trinity |
| Kodo_ | but still, i can't seem to access my Desktop folder in the appropriate way |
| Kodo_ | my home-folder is shown on my desktop |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 504 filed by ogldelphi@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=504 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [PaperCut] search kickoff menu bug/enhancement |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: dude... |
| MutantTurkey | this is ridiculous |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: so the kicker bug i will marked closed |
| MutantTurkey | if i can find it... |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: srry for delay, have to go out now |
| Xu_R | D: |
| * Xu_R was just scrambling around for something | |
| MutantTurkey | except band just got here :P |
| Xu_R | o. |
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| KingSphinx | Any idea what's going to happen when Ubuntu rolls over to GTK3? Will QtCurve take care of themeing GTK apps or is there something else that needs to be done? |
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| kb9vqf | Hi all |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=tree&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment&hb=HEAD&f=main/thirdparty/libreoffice/3.3.2/patches |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | Not TQt converted yet, but functional with LibreOffice |
| kb9vqf | It took a LONG time to get that to work |
| kb9vqf | the OOO/LibreOffice build system is a royal pain |
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| zacario | hi |
| zacario | is it possible to display a search bar in konqueror? |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: nice :D |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: When is the bug day anyway? |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: it was supposed to be today... |
| kb9vqf | ohh |
| kb9vqf | great :( |
| kb9vqf | are you still stuck on arts? |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: ^^^ |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: yea :-\ |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Look at the CMake D options here: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=viewblob&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment%20Packaging&h=7be8b00579ccf2169b9c4df673baa4962bc190e4&hb=HEAD&f=ubuntu/maverick/dependencies/arts/debian/rules |
| kb9vqf | (the line beginning with DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS) |
| kb9vqf | see what is different in your build |
| Xu_R | ok, will look |
| kb9vqf | let me know if you see anything different |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I put a lot more flags, but it should have had the same effect... I think I need to look for a missing dependency... |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Can you pastebin the failure again? |
| kb9vqf | note that I need the entire build log |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: http://slexy.org/view/s21O10uz5j |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 503 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=503 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kmix wont autostart |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Can I see this patch: arts-vorbis-fix.dif |
| Xu_R | http://slexy.org/view/s2wuFAPtUn |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Can you send me the CMake cache from that build? |
| kb9vqf | Specifically I want to know what VORBISFILE_LIBRARIES was set to |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I'm currently running that same build again (no changes), so I'll be able to give you a fresh cache... |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: I assume you did pull the latest SVN before rebuilding though? |
| Xu_R | yup |
| kb9vqf | ok, good |
| kb9vqf | my hunch is that -lvorbisfile is not being passed to the gsl linker |
| kb9vqf | but I will see shortly |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | hmm... I can confirm I have all the dependencies needed to link vorbis. so it's not a dependency problem |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I hope you didn't mind that I put README.GIT at the root of tde-packaging ^_^" |
| kb9vqf | just a copy of the one in tde? |
| kb9vqf | that's fine |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Can I see the cache files? |
| Xu_R | right on time, the build just failed exactly as you sent me that message |
| Xu_R | getting the files |
| Xu_R | http://slexy.org/view/s20LRUSVgO |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Can you try this: In arts/flow/gsl/CMakeLists.txt try adding ${VORBIS_LIBRARIES} right after ${VORBISFILE_LIBRARIES} (make sure there is a space between the two ${..} ${..} structures) |
| kb9vqf | then rebuild |
| kb9vqf | it might not do anything but it's worth a shot |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | ok, rebuilding |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: and btw, the README.GIT in tde-packaging isn't the same as in tde ^_^" lol, didn't know there was one in tde :P |
| kb9vqf | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=viewblob&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment&h=121b8495bc2f727c92284ce75b8c1524bef5bcbc&hb=1a436852966432ac4be3d4890b3f46c9584d7892&f=README.GIT |
| Xu_R | ah, ok... mine was more of just all the commands you would need to use ;P |
| kb9vqf | which one do you like better? |
| Xu_R | I was just thinking of merging the two - both of them are good |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | merge them in tde-packaging |
| kb9vqf | I'll look over the result and make final changes before putting it in tde |
| kb9vqf | how is the build? |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | still building |
| kb9vqf | is that a good sign? |
| kb9vqf | i.e. would it have failed before now? |
| Xu_R | no, because it hasn't gotten up to that part yet |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | your build log isn't very useful TBH |
| kb9vqf | debian will say "leaving directory xxx" when the build fails |
| kb9vqf | yours does not :( |
| kb9vqf | where xxx is the directory containing the failing library build |
| Xu_R | it doesn't? |
| Xu_R | strange, I thought it does... |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: I can confirm that fix does work |
| kb9vqf | Great! :)) |
| kb9vqf | I'm going to dinner; poke me a bit later so that I can upload it to SVN |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Fixed in SVN revision 1248403 |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: thanks ^_^ |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | I assume this will help with your RPM builds ;-) |
| Xu_R | of course ;) |
| Xu_R | wonderful, arts finished building :D |
| kb9vqf | great! |
| kb9vqf | poke me if you have any other problems |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: and I revised README.GIT :) http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/?a=viewblob&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment%20Packaging&h=65c5312e3ec11db32bdc8b90c1da47ca3b12c9cc&hb=6507e11446a26cf7882ecc8658e505b6adce8e61&f=README.GIT |
| * Xu_R just spotted a typo - oops. | |
| * Xu_R goes to fix that typo ;) | |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Did I manage to miss the meeting? |
| kb9vqf | I thought it was Tuesday |
| Xu_R | I guess I'll push it to Tuesday then. |
| Xu_R | It was supposed to be today |
| Xu_R | bug day + meeting |
| Xu_R | D: |
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| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | sorry about that |
| kb9vqf | our dev team seems to be falling apart |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | we may just end up using the nightly builds for a while |
| kb9vqf | in the absence of bug fixes I can't release 3.5.13 |
| Xu_R | true. MutantTurkey managed to get some bugs closed, and I'm not seeing anything that would block Trinity on my 11.04 except kdesudo :-| |
| kb9vqf | how is kdesudo now? |
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| kb9vqf | it was rebuilt in the past few days |
| kb9vqf | odd--I didn't see any code from MutantTurkey :-/ |
| kb9vqf | so they must have been invalid reports |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: kdesudo is still not working D': |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: probably. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I'll look into it |
| kb9vqf | You keep working on the RPM packages |
| kb9vqf | we need those ASAP |
| kb9vqf | so that OpenSUSE can throw some of its developers our way ;-) |
| Xu_R | :) |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Which version of kdesudo do you have installed? |
| Xu_R | latest - from today's updates... |
| Xu_R | (I updated today) |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: what exactly happens? |
| kb9vqf | the reason I ask is it works fine here (!?!??) |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: really? it still does nothing on my end |
| Xu_R | same errors |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | band just left |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Which version? |
| kb9vqf | dpkg -l | grep kdesudo |
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| Xu_R | 4:3.5.13-0ubuntu7+r1246260+pr1~natty |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: also, what is /opt/trinity/lib/libgsl.a considered? a devel file? |
| kb9vqf | it's a static library |
| kb9vqf | on Ubuntu that's a development file |
| Xu_R | hm... ok |
| Xu_R | does arts require it to function? |
| * Xu_R also wonders if arts can be built without making a static library | |
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| Xu_R | woah o_o updating nightly again did something nice to my desktop |
| Xu_R | created lots of duplicate icons |
| Xu_R | that I can't get rid of... |
| Xu_R | this calls for a restart of the computer! and a hope that kdesudo works again |
| Xu_R | b/c I just did a full reinstall of it |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: A restart will clear it |
| kb9vqf | the icons that is |
| Xu_R | yup - restarted |
| Xu_R | kdesudo works |
| Xu_R | except calling kdesudo and nothing else still gives an error |
| kb9vqf | by itself you mean? |
| kb9vqf | just 'kdesudo' ? |
| kb9vqf | that gives an error here too |
| kb9vqf | a hang up technically |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: yes |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Fixed in SVN revision 1248417 |
| kb9vqf | theoretically |
| Xu_R | now time to test ;) |
| kb9vqf | it won't be build for a while |
| kb9vqf | but you can cherry-pick the patch |
| kb9vqf | from SVN |
| kb9vqf | *built |
| Xu_R | I'll wait for the builds, there might be other goodies :) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I actually have a bit in the pipeline right now :-P |
| kb9vqf | the final move from kde3 to trinity |
| Xu_R | :D |
| kb9vqf | literally replacing the string 'kde3' with 'trinity' |
| kb9vqf | s/final/next-to-last/g |
| kb9vqf | there is one more that needs to be done sometime |
| kb9vqf | replacing the string 'KDE3' with 'Trinity' |
| kb9vqf | that's a bit nastier |
| kb9vqf | but I did it in the Debian/Ubuntu packaging :)( |
| kb9vqf | just not in the Trinity source itself |
| kb9vqf | anyway builds could take a couple days |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | it'll make the Trinity stand out and the KDE3 begone ^__^ |
| kb9vqf | yup |
| kb9vqf | and also fix the problems with adept and a handful of other apps that retained "kde3" in their innards |
| kb9vqf | oh, and there won't be /opt/trinity/lib/kde3 anymore |
| kb9vqf | only /opt/trinity/lib/trinity |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Xu_R | :D |
| kb9vqf | but as I said...that's a big build batch... |
| kb9vqf | it could fail.... |
| kb9vqf | and take a few days |
| Xu_R | hopefully not |
| * kb9vqf crosses fingers | |
| Xu_R | I already replaced every "kde3" in packaging into "tde", so I might be a first-look |
| kb9vqf | keep working on getting preliminary RPM builds |
| Xu_R | yes... I need those. |
| kb9vqf | don't worry too much about which files go where |
| kb9vqf | just get something working |
| kb9vqf | then it can be tweaked later |
| * Xu_R notes that Ilya has been getting a bit noisier lately... | |
| kb9vqf | yup |
| kb9vqf | and it's up to you to silence him with shiny new packages :) |
| kb9vqf | Although I note that every time I ask him for a patch he shuts up for a while |
| kb9vqf | and I never get the patch :-/ |
| Xu_R | the udev "patch"? it was a bluff, truthfully. |
| Xu_R | it's actually a udev automount event |
| kb9vqf | well I wasn't far off with the "troll" bit then |
| Xu_R | that has nothing to do with integration :-\ |
| Xu_R | yes, I noticed he was asking about udev rules and automounting in opensuse Factory mailing list |
| Xu_R | connected the two :-| |
| kb9vqf | Someone needs to build this http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/KPowerAPI |
| kb9vqf | I'm not going to hack yet another hardware access library just to have the underlying specs change again |
| kb9vqf | if it's done it will be done RIGHT |
| kb9vqf | until then HAL will remain just a prereq |
| kb9vqf | *just remain |
| Xu_R | good idea... |
| kb9vqf | really, there's nothing wrong with HAL |
| kb9vqf | there never was |
| kb9vqf | it just didn't extend very well or something |
| kb9vqf | but Trinity doesn't use those new features...so... |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Xu_R | :D |
| kb9vqf | we can sit on HAL for a while IMHO |
| Xu_R | HAL is still usable, so it's fine. |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | and there are more pressing concerns |
| kb9vqf | like getting the *bugs fixed* and the next release out the door... :)) |
| Xu_R | a point very emphasized ;) |
| kb9vqf | (I'm considering the lack of RPM support a bug right now) |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | get the core system working at the very least |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | that is, the kde* modules |
| kb9vqf | and a handful of the apps |
| kb9vqf | amarok, kpowersave, etc. |
| kb9vqf | enough to get Ilya or others on board and they can help out with the rest |
| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | My time will be limited very shortly |
| Xu_R | time to speed up packaging... |
| Xu_R | ah, even more important then. |
| kb9vqf | so I will have to leave the project alone for a while |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | Hence the big push to get remaining problems fixed |
| Xu_R | ok |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: hm... looks like Ilya may have tried to do automounting without hal via mtab instead of udev rules |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: http://slexy.org/view/s2NtukzskF |
| Xu_R | and now off to bed - night |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 505 filed by ogldelphi@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=505 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kgtk-qt3 3.5.13 nightly can't be used |
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| delight | Is trinity installable next to a kde4 installation ? e.g. does it use a .kde-trinity ? what about commands like konsole, konqueror etc. that are available in both versions |
| delight | ? |
| kb9vqf | delight: Yes, you can install Trinity alongside KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | it does use its own ~/.kde3 or ~/.trinity folder (depending on the version you install) |
| kb9vqf | Trinity will always launch its version of an application if it is available |
| kb9vqf | otherwise it will fall back to the KDE4 version |
| kb9vqf | Likewise, KDE4 will always launch its version of an application |
| delight | kb9vqf: thnx for the info ... sounds nice ... what about if you use the shell ? |
| kb9vqf | shell? |
| delight | bash .. .command line |
| kb9vqf | from within a trinity session the above is true |
| kb9vqf | if you use the shell outside a Trinity session then only the KDE4 versions of the apps are available |
| delight | say you are on the shell and want to call something like "kate sometext.txt" |
| kb9vqf | that will work |
| kb9vqf | If you are logged into a Trinity session, then it will load the Trinity version of kate with "sometext.txt" opened |
| kb9vqf | if not, it will load the KDE4 version of Kate |
| delight | sounds great ... I'll give it a shot on my debian box ;) ... got natty on my laptop ... |
| kb9vqf | OK :) |
| delight | thnx for the infos |
| kb9vqf | let us know if you run into problems |
| kb9vqf | np |
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| Piki | hi |
| delight | kb9vqf: a last one ... is trinity comming with amarok 1.4.x ? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| delight | nice |
| kb9vqf | we maintain it actually |
| delight | wow |
| kb9vqf | nothing else like it out there :) |
| delight | true |
| delight | ;) |
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| Piki | any android users? |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: started on tdebase |
| Xu_R | but I'm not going to have much time this week |
| Xu_R | it's the week before school X_X |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: OK |
| kb9vqf | I take it arts/kdelibs are working? |
| Xu_R | yes |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: hmm... on kde3 (and by extension, kde4) configure options, there is a --with-distribution or a -DKDE_DISTRIBUTION option to specify a distribution name... |
| Xu_R | anything like that for trinity? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | well, I was pretty sure, hang on |
| kb9vqf | it used to exist in automake |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R It used to be "--with-distribution="Kubuntu (`lsb_release --codename --short`)" in Autotools |
| kb9vqf | I don't know if that feature was ported to CMake |
| Xu_R | hmm... looking at CMakeLists.txt, it wasn't. |
| kb9vqf | well, feel free to port it and send me a patch :-P |
| Xu_R | ok, when time comes around |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
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| simcop2387 | has anyone tried getting kdirstat working with trinity desktop? |
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| kb9vqf | simcop2387: kdirstat is in our archive |
| simcop2387 | cool, i've had a hell of a time keeping a statically built copy of it around and working. there's nothing else like it and i couldn't get it ported up to kde4/qt4 to keep it otherwise |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | Qt4 is pretty limiting |
| kb9vqf | we have tried to absorb as many KDE3 apps as possible |
| kb9vqf | there are many out there that only have equivalents under Windows or Mac |
| simcop2387 | i'm mostly after a bastard hybrid of kde3/kde4 these days. i've grown to really like kwin4 and a few other kde4 apps, but hate plasma. |
| simcop2387 | but if you guys keep the other stuff alive i could see myself switching back. at 3.6 i'm likely to give it a really serious chance. |
| kb9vqf | good to know |
| kb9vqf | what do you like in kwin4 that we don't have? |
| simcop2387 | honestly it's been so long that i don't remember anymore, but i'm getting a debian vm setup to try trinity right now. (qt3 and hal are the biggest blockers for me, qt3 i can manage but hal gets in the way for me anymore) |
| kb9vqf | hal isn't that bad... |
| kb9vqf | it just sits in the background |
| simcop2387 | it is when it's no longer supported by your dist and lots of packages in the package manager actively say they can't be installed if it is |
| Piki | hal crashes a lot on my system |
| * kb9vqf notes that in the current nightly builds we have basic compositing support, and work is being done to make Trinity more compositing aware | |
| kb9vqf | ugh |
| kb9vqf | problem is there is no good replacement for HAL |
| kb9vqf | and writing one is going to take a while |
| Piki | kpowersave constantly loses the battery because of hal |
| simcop2387 | at least for all of hal anyway. there's udisks and upower for two small parts, nothing else that i know of |
| kb9vqf | I personally would like to see the kernel/udev stuff settle down more before writing a new library for it |
| kb9vqf | after all the upheval lately I don't trust udisks/upower to stay around in any semblance of a stable API for a while |
| kb9vqf | *upheval |
| kb9vqf | *upheavall |
| * kb9vqf just cannot type | |
| kb9vqf | Also, I provide HAL for debian in the package archives |
| kb9vqf | it is bad packaging to conflict with it |
| kb9vqf | hal-trinity IIRC |
| simcop2387 | my main dist isn't debian |
| kb9vqf | ubuntu? |
| kb9vqf | or something else :) |
| simcop2387 | gentoo |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| Piki | kb9vqf: i think bero had something other than hal working with kde3 back in 2008 and older, i know it wasn't udev/udisks/upower, you can ask him about it |
| kb9vqf | another obsolete API probably |
| kb9vqf | I really would like to wait and let things settle |
| Piki | maybe, but it worked |
| kb9vqf | so does HAL ;-) |
| Piki | not for me |
| Piki | it's always crashing here |
| kb9vqf | For the record, I would like to see it replaced as well |
| kb9vqf | but I have yet to see an actual viable alternative |
| Piki | what bero used sometimes forgot to unload my flash drive drivers, but it worked perfectly otherwise |
| kb9vqf | it would cost serious man-hours (read: $$$$) to produce a HAL replacement for Trinity at this point |
| kb9vqf | it involves some serious low level programming |
| kb9vqf | have you seen the APIs for udev? |
| kb9vqf | nasty stuff there |
| Piki | i don't even know how to program, so i couldn't look |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | Like I said, I wish I could just replace HAL, but it is not trivial to do so |
| Piki | if something viable does come along, i'd be willing to test |
| Piki | but it would be awhile before i could develop for it |
| kb9vqf | and by the time I do, the upstream devs will probably come out with a new latest-and-greatest interface to replace the current upower one |
| kb9vqf | that's my main concern |
| Piki | at this point i wouldn't know where to start, but i'll start learning soon |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| simcop2387 | from what i remember on the hal dev lists, it's biggest problem was that they had some architectural issues (i remember huge discussions every couple of months about if it should do mounting itself and how) and it being difficult to get any significant change into the presentation to things using it |
| kb9vqf | yes, and those are the same characteristics that made it easy to use on the app level |
| kb9vqf | the HAL code in Trinity is minimal |
| kb9vqf | when you start talking about using udev directly, the code will bloat like crazy |
| Piki | and believe me when i say: if i get into a project that i want/need something, i do it well |
| kb9vqf | needing a new library, properly designed APIs, etc. |
| Piki | anyways, i need to get going, early start tomorrow |
| kb9vqf | ok |
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| simcop2387 | yea i don't remember kde doing huge amounts with it, just waiting for disks and maybe some power management stuff (my hardware back then didn't do acpi correctly so i didn't get to see that) |
| kb9vqf | yup |
| kb9vqf | very hard to "just do that" with udev |
| kb9vqf | you need a full fledged interface library |
| kb9vqf | which doesn't exist yet |
| simcop2387 | i also seem to remember hal before udev itself being a bit of black magic to get events from the kernel, which i think lead to some of the strange looking things in it later on |
| simcop2387 | moving targets suck :) |
| kb9vqf | yes, and udev may not be able to fully replace HAL as a result |
| kb9vqf | there was talk about using devicekit |
| kb9vqf | I just can't afford to do this unless someone wants to sponsor it |
| kb9vqf | I did write a spec for the new library: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/KPowerAPI |
| simcop2387 | hmm |
| kb9vqf | personally I |
| kb9vqf | personally I'd rather someone else implemented that library, but I can dream, can't I? :-) |
| simcop2387 | i may look into doing some of it, or sponsoring something since i've got a job finally. all depends on my time |
| kb9vqf | ok, sounds good |
| kb9vqf | let me know what you decide |
| kb9vqf | when you decide it (no rush) |
| kb9vqf | from my perspective HAL isn't a major problem |
| simcop2387 | i wil admit if i do anything it will likely not be done fast, since i've not looked at the stuff it'd involve |
| kb9vqf | oh and BTW we absorbed Qt3 |
| kb9vqf | we are maintaining it |
| kb9vqf | and providing packages for it |
| simcop2387 | yea i saw tghat |
| simcop2387 | that* |
| simcop2387 | fixed a few security issues with it too i think i read? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | so essentially you can look at Trinity as just sitting on top of XLib and friends :) |
| kb9vqf | qt3 is just a common shared toolkit between native Trinity apps |
| kb9vqf | we're also working on improving compatibility between our version of Qt3 and the "real" Qt4 |
| kb9vqf | Qt3 is just so much faster than Qt4 |
| simcop2387 | i mostly see qt4 as a move in a good direction for the future since it'd reduce maintence on yourself (in theory) and because qt4 will supposidly support other display systems (like wayland and i think some work on direct framebuffer stuff) |
| kb9vqf | actually it makes our job 100x harder |
| kb9vqf | Qt4 is another stupid shifting target |
| kb9vqf | it's slow |
| kb9vqf | it's buggy |
| simcop2387 | huh |
| kb9vqf | A lot of those irritating KDE4 bugs didn't come from KDE ;-) |
| kb9vqf | They came from underlying Qt4 problems |
| simcop2387 | i hadn't seen much issues with it myself, but then again i've not tried to make a DE in it :) |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | KDE e.V. tried and you got KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | that should speak for itself :) |
| kb9vqf | I wonder how Qt4/Qt5 will even perform under Wayland |
| kb9vqf | There is too much change right now in Linux; AFAIK a lot of companies are rightfully concerned about using Linux vs. more stable alternatives |
| simcop2387 | i played with it a bit but nothing serious, that was a while ago |
| kb9vqf | honestly Wayland must provide an X11 compat API in order for it to succeed |
| simcop2387 | wayland itself seemed to be faster on the open source drivers than Xorg was, which was a good thing, but it was way to slow at the time. |
| simcop2387 | it already has that |
| kb9vqf | and we can always latch onto that :) |
| kb9vqf | If you want bling keep KDE4 and friends |
| simcop2387 | that's the whole reason someone made it |
| kb9vqf | bling and productivity do not go together really |
| kb9vqf | IMNSHO :) |
| simcop2387 | yea i've usually got 90% of it turned off, but things like yakuake do help :) |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | transparent Konsole windows and a handful of other enahcements :) |
| kb9vqf | *enhancements |
| kb9vqf | oh, and if you want to prove Qt4's inferiority for certain workloads, just try to access your KDE4 session via VNC/RDP/etc. |
| kb9vqf | you can't |
| kb9vqf | not in real time |
| kb9vqf | more like a bad slideshow |
| simcop2387 | which vnc server? with x11vnc it works fine for me, but i'm not 100% sure that counts |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| kb9vqf | used to be quite bad |
| kb9vqf | is that on a LAN? |
| simcop2387 | 802.11g |
| kb9vqf | over the Internet AFAIK you can forget it |
| kb9vqf | maybe they finally fixed that then |
| kb9vqf | it took long enough |
| simcop2387 | yea |
| kb9vqf | well, we're just one alternative of many--pick and choose what you like :) |
| kb9vqf | the general UI of Trinity is not going to change |
| kb9vqf | and I am not sure that a Qt4 port is even going to be usable |
| kb9vqf | last I tried (which was a few months ago) it was horridly slow |
| kb9vqf | this was part of the reason we absorbed Qt3 |
| kb9vqf | if it isn't broken.... |
| simcop2387 | makes me wonder if it's some oddity in opengl drivers, i've seen them do strange things with x11vnc before |
| kb9vqf | anyway I need to go |
| simcop2387 | have a good night |
| kb9vqf | you too :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 506 filed by ogldelphi@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=506 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Move kpdf from xpdf to libpoppler |
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| * strangelv worries. He relies rather heavily on kpdf | |
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| * Xu_R wonders if kpdf will see any performance regression/improvement if moved to libpoppler | |
| MutantTurkey | I think libpoppler is the answer :P |
| Xu_R | :P |
| MutantTurkey | well only because it's easy to link to and we don't have to do any work on that actual library |
| Xu_R | that does sound easy then. |
| MutantTurkey | same as with libwebkit vs khtml |
| MutantTurkey | if we use our outdated rendering, it won't continue to recive updates, unlike libpoppler which is continuing to get updates |
| MutantTurkey | that is how I see it |
| Xu_R | and that's probably a good idea... |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | and it has a qt wrapper already |
| MutantTurkey | i think kpdf currently just has the xpdf code directory copied into it and thats that |
| Xu_R | o. |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | if I recall correctly |
| MutantTurkey | but xpdf is still updated also |
| MutantTurkey | last update was 8/16/11 |
| MutantTurkey | but I don't think it's an ideal solution copying it in |
| Xu_R | I'm not sure which is better in the end... :| and we don't know what breakage new versions might bring |
| MutantTurkey | libpoppler at least has a large following and an consistant API |
| MutantTurkey | xpdf is not a library. so it's not really the best thing to do. |
| Xu_R | oic. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: also sorry about saturday. there was a ton of flooding to do |
| MutantTurkey | to clean up |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: np... nobody showed up anyway XD we're going to have to try this again soon. |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: I have to finish up this packaging anyway. kb9vqf told me he considers my lack of RPM packages to test a blocker... so I've got to hurry ;P |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I consider that a major impediment |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I consider that a major impediment |
| MutantTurkey | someone I saw mentioned that "it's only packaged for ubuntu and debian" which is a major turn off for other distros |
| MutantTurkey | so having mre support would be greate |
| MutantTurkey | increases user base and legitness |
| Xu_R | yea... |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: close any bugs though? |
| Xu_R | haven't had the time to look at the bug list lately |
| Xu_R | been rushing to get stuff done in time for next week |
| Xu_R | (school starting) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah me too... |
| MutantTurkey | I still havent gotten books or anything yet xD |
| Xu_R | XD |
| MutantTurkey | I have tuesdays and thursdays off though |
| Xu_R | last minute panic :P |
| MutantTurkey | but I work those days anyway... |
| Xu_R | well, I have to run. got more stuff to do |
| Xu_R | later |
| MutantTurkey | okay bud |
| MutantTurkey | Seriously ubuntu is pissing me off. Every release they become less standardized |
| MutantTurkey | they are leaving the FOSS ecosystem rapidly |
| MutantTurkey | for example, Unity is the new interface. that's awesome! but it only compiles with ubuntu because they have 5000 zillion hacks and patches to make it work. |
| MutantTurkey | talk about pain in the arse. |
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| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: you asked a question yesterday that went unanswered |
| MutantTurkey | you left, and then I looked and knew the answer. |
| MutantTurkey | do you recall the question? |
| KingSphinx | Um, no, I don't recall asking anything yesterday... most recent question I asked was whether or not TDE will have anything for GTK3 integration or not, and that was a few days ago. |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | that was it |
| MutantTurkey | while GTK3 is out. It is likely to take a few years to get it off the ground. |
| MutantTurkey | GTK2 is so firmly implanted and so few applications use GTK3 at this point |
| MutantTurkey | so answer |
| MutantTurkey | is yes but not yet |
| KingSphinx | Ah, okay then |
| KingSphinx | Guess it's a good thing that I'm thinking ahead, but yeah... |
| KingSphinx | Oh! I think I also asked whether updating to 11.10 would be the same as 10.10 -> 11.04, or if any additional steps would need to be taken (this is, of course, assuming there's no repos for Ocelot by that time) |
| KingSphinx | *Trinity repos, should've been clearer |
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| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: sorry I had a meeting |
| MutantTurkey | you are always supposed to update to 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 |
| MutantTurkey | I dont think you can skip over one |
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| KingSphinx | I know, I meant when 11.10 comes out, assuming there's no Ocelot Trinity packages by that time, will upgrading to Ocelot from Natty leave 3.5.12 intact? |
| MutantTurkey | It might not |
| MutantTurkey | Ubuntu has been messing around with their paths. I am sure that timothy will provide packages for it though. |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: can you speak on this? |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.12? not sure |
| MutantTurkey | what about from HEAD? |
| kb9vqf | new packages will definitely be provided from HEAD |
| kb9vqf | we have natty builds from HEAD already, ocelot will be next |
| kb9vqf | as a rule I don't build packages for Ubuntu until the first beta release |
| kb9vqf | of Ubuntu that is |
| kb9vqf | it costs a lot of $$$ to build packages unfortunately |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ? |
| kb9vqf | electricity |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| KingSphinx | Not even open-source is free :/ |
| kb9vqf | free as in freedom, remember :) |
| MutantTurkey | not as in free beer. |
| MutantTurkey | though that is welcomed |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | consider that there are over 300 *source* packages that comprise Trinity |
| KingSphinx | Though, if I remember correctly, something was mentioned in the logs about OpenSUSE still having 3.5 developers? |
| kb9vqf | a full rebuild, even on the build farm, can take a couple of days |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: NOT DEVELOPERS. |
| MutantTurkey | they are maintainers. |
| MutantTurkey | they do no work whatsoever to develop it. |
| MutantTurkey | they are content with "leaving it as long as it builds" |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey is correct |
| MutantTurkey | which basically ensures that their kde3 branch is dry rotting away. |
| kb9vqf | bit rotting ;-) |
| kb9vqf | they tend to use nasty distro-specific hacks to get around build failures |
| KingSphinx | Wow, that sucks. |
| kb9vqf | yeah |
| kb9vqf | but that's all their users want right now |
| MutantTurkey | and they are jerks and troll our mailing list |
| kb9vqf | careful... |
| KingSphinx | Still sounds better than not being able to build at all though (*cough*Fedora*cough*) |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Only one does that |
| kb9vqf | be very careful |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | you are correct I apologize. |
| kb9vqf | it's OK :) |
| KingSphinx | Hmm... will there ever be a point that TDE will move past the 3.5.x naming or is it "frozen" there? |
| kb9vqf | it's frozen until the bugs in the bugtracker are under control |
| kb9vqf | 3.6 should be almost completely bug free |
| kb9vqf | after all that is one of our selling points--fast and stable |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| KingSphinx | because you don't want another KDE 4.0 on your hands... ;) |
| kb9vqf | exactly |
| kb9vqf | we're being somewhat careful about that :) |
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| kb9vqf | we have enterprise users that would be....unhappy if it crashed daily on a "stable" releaes |
| KingSphinx | I'd imagine so... |
| MutantTurkey | unhappy to say the least |
| MutantTurkey | just found out that my bandwidth on my vps isn't even capped |
| MutantTurkey | If i run over they just charge me only $1 every 100GB |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 85 from kdemultimedia to ubuntu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=85 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, UNCONFIRMED, Kmix for KDE4 conflicts with kmix for KDE3 |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I am closing bug 106 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=106 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, UNCONFIRMED, Duplicated country choices on first run as user |
| MutantTurkey | I checked it, doesn't occur for me |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | mark as RESOLVED:WORKSFORME |
| MutantTurkey | or FIXED? |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 106 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=106 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Duplicated country choices on first run as user |
| kb9vqf | that's fine |
| MutantTurkey | bug wrangler turkey |
| kb9vqf | in the future WORKSFORME may be better (just FYI) |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | bug 112 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=112 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kubuntu-desktop-kde3 installs konsole from KDE4 instead of konsole-kde3 |
| MutantTurkey | I think we can also close |
| MutantTurkey | this is from 2009. another person configrmed this does happen. and It doesn't happen for me. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: You did install the KDE4 konsole before testing, right? |
| kb9vqf | oh wait |
| kb9vqf | nevermind |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 112 from other (any) to ubuntu. |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 112 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=112 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kubuntu-desktop-kde3 installs konsole from KDE4 instead of konsole-kde3 |
| MutantTurkey | other way around |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MutantTurkey | it would pull in konsole |
| MutantTurkey | fixed though |
| MutantTurkey | neptunia seemed to report alot of bugs. |
| kb9vqf | that's a good thing |
| kb9vqf | he was testing Trinity thoroughly |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | bug 112 seems to be connected |
| MutantTurkey | to another bug 113 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=113 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, If konsole from KDE4 installed along KDE3 packages break out |
| MutantTurkey | basically, if Konsole(KDE4) was installed, you can't remove it because ksmserver-kd3 trys to rename /usr/bin/plasma |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | marked as fixed? |
| kb9vqf | that is due to a design defect in KDE4 |
| MutantTurkey | we install to /opt/ now right? |
| kb9vqf | it may not be fixed |
| MutantTurkey | I will check |
| kb9vqf | it doesn't matter where Trinity is installed to |
| MutantTurkey | oh okay |
| kb9vqf | basically plasma is an ill behaved little brat and always tries to launch no matter what, execpt in a hand picked set of desktop environments |
| kb9vqf | (gnome, xfce, etc. |
| MutantTurkey | so unless it is marked to not launch it will? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MutantTurkey | how do you stop it? |
| kb9vqf | the only way I was able to fix thta was to redirect plasma to a wrapper script that checks for Trinity before launching the real plasma binary |
| kb9vqf | *that |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | okay I gotta catch the train. |
| kb9vqf | the bug is still valid; installation/deinstallation should not be affected by what is installed or not installed |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully a few bugs rounded up a day and marked off will help |
| kb9vqf | but I don't know if the bug is still present :) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | yes it will |
| kb9vqf | eventually though you will have to start actually *fixing* them :) |
| MutantTurkey | it wil make clearer which bugs are actually bugs... |
| MutantTurkey | I know :D |
| MutantTurkey | <excuse about working system> |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.mutantturkey.com/mirrorlog.html |
| MutantTurkey | started pulling from trinitydesktop.org also |
| kb9vqf | cool |
| MutantTurkey | I need to still setup that script to notify you tgoufg |
| MutantTurkey | though' |
| MutantTurkey | okay I'm off. will be back a bit later :D |
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| tidux | are builds x86-only at this point? |
| tidux | I tried adding the repositories to my Sheevaplug running Debian Squeeze armel |
| tidux | but APT couldn't find the armel repository |
| tidux | for Trinity |
| kb9vqf | x86/amd64 |
| kb9vqf | I don't have arm builders online right now |
| tidux | ah |
| kb9vqf | (or even the ability to use them) |
| kb9vqf | it's on a to-do list :) |
| tidux | sheevaplugs are cheap ($99 plus S+H new) and they run Squeeze great from an SDHC |
| tidux | power's not all that great, so I figured Trinity would be a great way to get a decent desktop for VNC |
| tidux | as it is, I just use SSH or the serial port |
| kb9vqf | Trinity + ARM would be a good mix IMHO :) |
| kb9vqf | I just haven't had time to set up the (unfamiliar to me) ARM build ysstem |
| kb9vqf | *system |
| tidux | kb9vqf: eh, once you install Debian (which can be a headache depending on hardware) it's really no different than x86 |
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| tidux | most things "just work" for building from source |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | but in my case I have no native ARM CPUs :) |
| kb9vqf | so then there's an emulator involved somewhere |
| kb9vqf | not to mention the interface to my build system and release manager |
| tidux | ah |
| tidux | just use basic command-line tools wherever possible and you should be good |
| kb9vqf | not that it isn't doable, just that it might take a bit for me to get it all running properly |
| kb9vqf | of course :) |
| tidux | the nice thing about ARM hardware is you can just leave it on |
| tidux | my sheevaplug draws ~6W |
| tidux | my Roku box draws ~2W |
| tidux | switch one 75-watt light bulb to a CFL and add five ARM servers to your LAN - you'll still come out ahead on power |
| kb9vqf | of course they have almost no power available for things like compiling or heavy duty computation... |
| kb9vqf | ;-) |
| kb9vqf | but for embedded systems they are great |
| tidux | kb9vqf: bah, my Sheevaplug has a 1.2GHz CPU and 512MB RAM |
| kb9vqf | yeah, and how long will it take you to compile the Linux kernel on that? |
| tidux | quicker than my old Athlon XP |
| kb9vqf | but still slower than my Opteron class systems |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| tidux | well yeah |
| tidux | I hang out with people who still do software development on an 8088 |
| kb9vqf | if they made one with a DVI output or PCI slot it would make a great mythtv frontend |
| tidux | so relative to old DOS hardware it's lightspeed |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| tidux | you don't want a Sheevaplug for MythTV |
| tidux | get a Trim Slice FitPC |
| tidux | comes with Tegra 2 for a CPU/GPU SoC, and HDMI output |
| tidux | or DVI-D |
| tidux | I forget which |
| kb9vqf | "GPU assisted video playback is not supported yet " |
| kb9vqf | personally I prefer a thin client with a PCI/E slot |
| * tidux shrugs | |
| tidux | a Tegra 2 is still pretty powerful |
| kb9vqf | not enough for HDTV though :) |
| tidux | au contraire |
| kb9vqf | anyway, I am pulling this channel off topic |
| tidux | the FitPC can do 1080p output |
| kb9vqf | you can play 1080p with a Tegra? |
| tidux | yeah |
| kb9vqf | at 60Hz? |
| tidux | http://trimslice.com/web/ |
| tidux | ^ detailed specs are there |
| kb9vqf | ok, cool |
| tidux | anyways, how's Qt4 compatibility going? |
| tidux | I'd love to see SMPlayer look native in Trinity |
| kb9vqf | read the IRC archive :-P |
| tidux | where's that? |
| kb9vqf | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/irc/logs.html |
| kb9vqf | tidux: Basically, Qt4 is a shifting target, it's slow, it's buggy, and it's a royal pain |
| kb9vqf | not sure it's worth the compat layer ATM |
| kb9vqf | I am working on other ways to get the Trinity look+feel on Qt4 :) |
| kb9vqf | (for native Qt4 apps that is) |
| kb9vqf | In some respects, using Qt4 is like asking for a modern native Windows C++ application to be rewritten with an old version of Visual Basic |
| tidux | yeah, I don't even use Qt4 apps anymore - the only things on my system that use it are smplayer and VirtualBox |
| tidux | and I stopped using VirtualBox in favor of KVM |
| tidux | Amarok 2.... WHY. |
| kb9vqf | VirtualBox here is the only Qt4 app I use |
| kb9vqf | Becuase people are stupid and can't figure out how to use a powerful app like Amarok 1.4? |
| tidux | one question: will Trinity support other window managers? |
| kb9vqf | for example? |
| tidux | I'm one of the 15 or so Window Maker geeks left on the planet |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| tidux | and I found a KDE3-lookalike theme |
| tidux | and a systray dockapp |
| kb9vqf | well, it is fully NET compliant |
| kb9vqf | so you should be able to use any WM you want |
| tidux | heh nice |
| kb9vqf | For example I know the compiz WM works |
| kb9vqf | just be sure to run it with the --replace option, to replace kwin |
| tidux | ah |
| kb9vqf | or similar (WM may have a different name for the equivalent option) |
| kb9vqf | anyway, I need to get going |
| tidux | ok |
| kb9vqf | hopefully I will have time to look into ARM builds this year |
| tidux | cool |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| KingSphinx | I made a Kubuntu Hardy live CD just for kicks earlier... it's nice, but it really serves as a point as to how far Linux as a whole has come in just three years... |
| MutantTurkey | has it come far? |
| KingSphinx | Quite far, actually. Seems that while it did recognize my wireless card needed drivers, my display wouldn't go past 800x600 (it's 1280x1024 native) |
| MutantTurkey | true |
| MutantTurkey | our autodetect is getting more magical |
| KingSphinx | Not to mention it felt a bit sluggish even for being on a CD |
| MutantTurkey | I think the ecosystem is only getting slower though :| |
| KingSphinx | Trinity or Linux in general? |
| KingSphinx | Though one notable difference between Hardy and Kubuntu/Trinity is that Hardy included Dolphin as the default file browser... I honestly didn't know there even was a version of Dolphin for KDE3 O_o |
| MutantTurkey | linux |
| MutantTurkey | trinity remains fast |
| KingSphinx | Well, it can't be blazing-fast all the time... no matter how much we all wish it could be, the ecosystem has to slow down sometimes. Don't give up hope though, the Linux community will speed up again soon. |
| KingSphinx | Heck, we just had GNOME 3 not too long ago |
| KingSphinx | Keep in mind that the last time we had a real "new" GNOME was ten years ago... |
| KingSphinx | I think the next time we'll see a major pickup in the community is when KDE 5 is released. Even though I love Trinity, I'm honestly excited to see what KDE 5 will bring. |
| MutantTurkey | meh |
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| Qu4Z | I'm hoping KDE5 will be cool, but KDE seems to have moved to inhabit the slot that Gnome used to serve, with Gnome moving off into tabled territory |
| KingSphinx | And I think that Trinity could serve as a decent alternative for users spurned away by GNOME's radical shift |
| KingSphinx | Easy on resources, stable, offers good integration (not perfect, but eh) with GTK2 apps... |
| * KingSphinx feels like a salesperson in an infomercial... >_>; | |
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| Qu4Z | I think Trinity could offer a decent alternative for any users :) |
| Qu4Z | ... except users of Trinity, of course. That wouldn't make sense |
| Qu4Z | And probably tiling window managers. They're too cool for us |
| KingSphinx | I never quite understood tiling window managers. I mean, why go backwards in time technology-wise? (...yes, I realize I'm saying this while using what's technically an "outdated" DE) |
| KingSphinx | Wasn't Windows 1.0 the only version to do tiling? |
| Qu4Z | Well, some people even type source code into a text editor instead of dragging and connecting components like has been possible for years. There's no accounting for taste, I guess. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 507 filed by m.f.janfranke@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=507 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, root-pw not accepted in [Alt]+[F2] |
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| KingSphinx | Whee, earthquakes. |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
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| calvin | o/ |
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| Qu4Z | Anyone knowledgable around? I'm trying to build trinity on gentoo (there's no overlay or anything yet, as far as I know). |
| Qu4Z | I assume it has to be built against qt3, and the qt3support from qt4 doesn't cut it (or at least the patch doesn't apply) |
| Qu4Z | => is there a pre-patched qt3 tarball around for download somewhere? |
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| calvin | Qu4Z: ? |
| calvin | you need to build our qt3 |
| calvin | which is in our git repository |
| calvin | http://git.trinitydesktop.org |
| calvin | (sorry everyone is sleeping) |
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| MutantTu1key | finally emptied my inbox of 4000 messages... |
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| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: where are the channel logs? |
| MutantTu1key | also, I see you've been doing krandr work, anything worth mentioning? |
| kb9vqf | http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/irc/logs.html |
| kb9vqf | yes, some cool stuff is now available |
| kb9vqf | screenshots forthcoming after builds are finished |
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| KingSphinx | Assuming the work on porting Qt3 to TQt is complete, do you think that TDE could be added to Ubuntu's official repos anytime soon? Or do they not want such an "outdated" desktop? |
| MutantTu1key | [Cit is |
| MutantTu1key | sorry |
| MutantTu1key | KingSphinx: I think there will be a greater chance once we release and have a larger following |
| MutantTu1key | I mean, repo's work on demand. if people want a program, its more likely to end up in the offical repos |
| KingSphinx | So it's just a "wait-and-see" thing? |
| MutantTu1key | frankly I would rather stay seperate, because that wayyou have more control |
| MutantTu1key | Tim was the kubuntu packager for some time so he is more familiar with it than I am though |
| * KingSphinx is busy fixing some "broken" KDM themes | |
| MutantTu1key | for kde3? |
| KingSphinx | Yep, the Kubuntu O2 theme points to a non-existant wallpaper, so I just had to edit kubuntu.xml to point to the right wallpaper |
| KingSphinx | Not that hard, really. |
| MutantTu1key | send that off to timothy |
| KingSphinx | Though I have yet to see if it actually worked or not... >_>; |
| MutantTu1key | ._. |
| KingSphinx | Might as well see if it did, brb |
| MutantTu1key | well if it works, send it off to the ML. |
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| KingSphinx | It worked! |
| KingSphinx | Now I just have to see if the userlist variant has this same problem |
| MutantTu1key | good stuff |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 507 from other (any) to kdebase. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=507 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, root-pw not accepted in [Alt]+[F2] |
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| MutantTu1key | connection problems? |
| KingSphinx | No, just have to log out to see if my fix worked. Also, the userlist variant is bug-free since it points to the default KDM background. |
| * KingSphinx actually feels useful for once, even if it was a minor bug :D | |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/secret_whispers_0f_a_n3w_p0w3r.png |
| KingSphinx | :o A new KRandR? |
| kb9vqf | A better one |
| kb9vqf | it's not a replacement for the tray icon |
| kb9vqf | this one configures the entire system from KDM startup onwards |
| kb9vqf | it supports extended, not just cloned, desktops |
| kb9vqf | and it can apply the settings on the fly :) |
| MutantTu1key | thats awesome |
| kb9vqf | I think this puts us on the forefront of usability...no more Xorg files :)) |
| MutantTu1key | I mean that is a seriously awesome improvement. |
| MutantTu1key | GO TIM! WOOOT WOOT. IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY. LETS PARTY! /o/ \o/ \o\ |
| kb9vqf | IIRC KDE4 can't do that either |
| kb9vqf | or gnome |
| kb9vqf | especially not the arbitrary monitor config |
| KingSphinx | I was just about to ask that |
| MutantTu1key | gnome has a terrible montor config. |
| KingSphinx | Especially now with GNOME 3 |
| MutantTu1key | good randr support is important to alot of users. |
| * KingSphinx speaks from experience | |
| MutantTu1key | especially power users. |
| kb9vqf | When I was testing this I was just having fun dragging my secondary monitor wherever I wanted it :) |
| kb9vqf | up, down, side to side... |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: can you switch primary monitors? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTu1key | bam. |
| kb9vqf | see the primary monitor checkbbox? |
| KingSphinx | I mean, I don't have dual-monitors (desk is way too small), but this is still awesome to have. |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: haven't checked yet. |
| kb9vqf | I meant in the screenshot |
| MutantTu1key | oh i see the link now |
| MutantTu1key | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/secret_whispers_0f_a_n3w_p0w3r.png |
| KingSphinx | And yet more proof that "old" KDE is FAR from dead. |
| MutantTu1key | secret whispers of a new power.... |
| MutantTu1key | in the screenshot I am only seeing one monitor |
| kb9vqf | that's because I only had one connected when I took it :-P |
| MutantTu1key | oh okay |
| kb9vqf | more monitors show up, trust me :) |
| MutantTu1key | I have a buddy like in the cubicle next to me using kde4. |
| MutantTu1key | I am going to ask him about his randr setup ina minute |
| KingSphinx | This is planned for the 3.5.13 release? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | it's in SVN and active |
| MutantTu1key | KingSphinx:... it is live. |
| MutantTu1key | frankly we are easily the most customisable system. and the fac that we have a good central hub for config is amazing |
| kb9vqf | the last kdebase builds are wrapping up now...you could even try it out yourself in a day or so |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: how long does a rebuild take? |
| kb9vqf | A full rebuild takes 3-4 days |
| kb9vqf | 30GB of software here :) |
| MutantTu1key | but how often is that? |
| kb9vqf | once or twice a year |
| kb9vqf | I try to keep them to a minimum as they are quite costly |
| MutantTu1key | assuming you worked on just kdebase, you just rebuild kdebase |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | unless you changed core libraries ;-) |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: can you actually put a physical number on it? like is it obvious on the bill? |
| kb9vqf | It uses an extra 1-2KW of power continuously for the 3-4 days |
| kb9vqf | and ties up computing resources that would otherwise be used for business tasks or turned off |
| kb9vqf | but I don't mind :) |
| MutantTu1key | right |
| kb9vqf | I just try to keep full rebuilds to a minimu |
| kb9vqf | *minimum |
| MutantTu1key | yeah |
| MutantTu1key | 30GB? holy snark |
| kb9vqf | Lucid,Maverick,Natty,Squeeze,x86,amd64 |
| kb9vqf | over 400 builds required |
| MutantTu1key | righ |
| MutantTu1key | do you use a distributed build system? |
| MutantTu1key | like distcc? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | clear as mud? |
| kb9vqf | Each builder in my farm builds its own job |
| kb9vqf | each hjob is distributed from a central manager |
| kb9vqf | *job |
| MutantTu1key | okay.... |
| MutantTu1key | and what software do you use? |
| kb9vqf | QuickBuild |
| kb9vqf | it's a rebranded version of Launchpad |
| MutantTu1key | right |
| kb9vqf | the only one in existence AFAIK |
| MutantTu1key | thre only rebranded version or what? |
| kb9vqf | there are two running Launchpad instances that I am aware of: the official one run by Canonical, and mine |
| MutantTu1key | Oh. wow. |
| kb9vqf | it is invaulable for the package management systems |
| MutantTu1key | that good? |
| kb9vqf | I can organize the releases, move packages between archives |
| MutantTu1key | Do you keep snyced with their updates? |
| kb9vqf | it won't let me do Bad Things |
| kb9vqf | when neccessary |
| MutantTu1key | thats awesome. |
| kb9vqf | anyway, I'm not going to be able to do too much more for this release |
| kb9vqf | so any help you can give with the bugs would be greatly appreciated |
| kb9vqf | time is quite limited here |
| MutantTu1key | I am going to give a good danged attempt. |
| MutantTu1key | I have time opening up really soon |
| MutantTu1key | and alot of it. |
| kb9vqf | good thing |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MutantTu1key | so I can start tackling issues |
| kb9vqf | I'll still be here to coordinate the release, but I probably won't be committing much of anything to SVN of my own creation |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I think once the bugs are fixed we should be good to go |
| MutantTu1key | so now our goal is just bug triage/fixing/smashing etc |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MutantTu1key | and getting Xu_R to package :P |
| kb9vqf | I noticed quite a few RPM packages lately on the mailing list |
| kb9vqf | seems people got fed up with the delay |
| kb9vqf | could yo uspearhead an effort to get their build control files into our tde-packaging GIT repoistory? |
| * kb9vqf cannot type again | |
| kb9vqf | There are packages for Mandriva and RedHat as far as I know |
| KingSphinx | There's RPMs now? Not that it matters now, since I switched back to Kubuntu, but yeah... |
| kb9vqf | let me get the mailing list links... |
| MutantTu1key | rephrase - could I spearhead the effort to get build control fields into our tde-packaging git repository |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: ok |
| MutantTu1key | links please :) |
| kb9vqf | here's mandriva: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::1233 |
| kb9vqf | and yes, typos corrected, that is what I meant to say :) |
| kb9vqf | everything required to build the RPMs (except for the Trinity source files themselves) should go into GIT |
| MutantTu1key | for some reason I don't get triinty-users mail |
| MutantTu1key | though I just recenly singed up. has it been quiet? I haven't seen anything |
| kb9vqf | and here's RHEL: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::1288 |
| MutantTu1key | also, aren't mandrivia and RHEL related? |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea, sorry |
| Xu_R | MutantTulkey: no |
| Xu_R | they aren't. |
| MutantTu1key | Xu_R: no they definitely are. |
| kb9vqf | MutantTu1key: Check your spam bin |
| Xu_R | MutantTulkey: they aren |
| KingSphinx | Will these RHEL RPMs install correctly in Fedora or is that pesky /opt rule still a problem? |
| kb9vqf | MutantTu1key: please keep them separate in GIT |
| Xu_R | 't... not for a very long time |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: not in there. |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: yes |
| kb9vqf | MutantTu1key: Email? |
| MutantTu1key | Xu_R: I meant they are related |
| MutantTu1key | like in family |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: mutantturkey@gmail.com |
| Xu_R | KingSphinx: they'll probably install in Fedora... just don't expect any love from fedora people |
| MutantTu1key | the same way that debian/ubuntu |
| Xu_R | MutantTulkey: no. |
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| kb9vqf | I want them separate in GIT |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: I am going to privately email those people and expalin them |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: yes of course. |
| kb9vqf | usually each distro has little tweaks they like to apply |
| Xu_R | KingSphinx: I would bet that it wasn't run through rpmlint - it would throw up big no-opt errors. |
| MutantTu1key | should I instruct them to email you o get an aaccount? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | and I don't care about no-/opt |
| kb9vqf | personally |
| kb9vqf | I use /opt all the time |
| MutantTu1key | opt is actually a good thing for now I think |
| kb9vqf | Google even uses /opt |
| MutantTu1key | google uses opt because they don't want to conform. |
| MutantTu1key | opt is nice because you can have your own little try |
| MutantTu1key | tree |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: those email addresses are blanked out on the ML.... |
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| kb9vqf | I like it personally--I know it isn't standard, but it would be neat if all non-official repoistories installed into /opt :) |
| MutantTu1key | @... |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | let me get them from my archive |
| MutantTu1key | can you PM their emails? |
| MutantTu1key | I will email them then I have to get to work |
| Xu_R | francois.andriot@free.fr for REDHAT and Fedora |
| Xu_R | ...I can't find the mandriva maint email DX |
| kb9vqf | MutantTu1key: You are not registered on trinity-users |
| kb9vqf | I signed you up though :) |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: was thier a double confirmation? |
| MutantTu1key | oaky good |
| Xu_R | MutantTulkey: ah, tmw@autotrain.org for Mandriva. |
| MutantTu1key | I know i applied and then must have just forgotten to go thrugh with it |
| Xu_R | found it~~ |
| MutantTu1key | Xu_R: thanks |
| kb9vqf | yep, that's what it looks like |
| kb9vqf | thanks for helping out here; I want those files in GIT but have no time to get them from the authors :-/ |
| kb9vqf | also make sure that they understand the licensing...open source licenses only... |
| kb9vqf | BSD/GPL perferred |
| kb9vqf | or even public domain :)( |
| MutantTu1key | WTFPL |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: ah, crap. i've gotten stuck in dbus-1-tqt... |
| Xu_R | http://slexy.org/view/s2AA2Nrs62 |
| * Xu_R was just stopping in to check on builds | |
| * Xu_R will be back soon - brb | |
| kb9vqf | MutantTu1key: Regarding bug 507, when kdesudo is installed it shuts down kdesu |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=507 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, root-pw not accepted in [Alt]+[F2] |
| kb9vqf | kdesu accepts the root password |
| kb9vqf | kdesudo does not |
| kb9vqf | so it's not a bug in Trinity, it's a bug in which packages he has installed :) |
| MutantTu1key | I am confused about that |
| MutantTu1key | oh |
| MutantTu1key | that makes sense |
| MutantTu1key | kdesu is su'ing to become the super user |
| MutantTu1key | kdesudo uses the users password |
| MutantTu1key | mark it as closed? |
| kb9vqf | after gently explaining that :) |
| kb9vqf | closed/invalid |
| kb9vqf | also be sure to mention that removing kdesudo-trinity will fix the "problem" |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: WOW, your compiler rules are STRICT!!! |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: yea.......... blame rpmlint. again. I'm not going to get any official support without that. DX |
| kb9vqf | That's fine, you will probably help fix some corner case crashes |
| Xu_R | ok, now I really gotta run. bbiab |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: don't you use -Werr? |
| MutantTu1key | if that is what you meant by compiler rules |
| kb9vqf | Mine never threw errors on invalid returns |
| MutantTu1key | ah |
| MutantTu1key | Hey, |
| MutantTu1key | I am part of the Trinity Desktop team working with Timothy Pearson. As |
| MutantTu1key | we prepare for the next release we are looking for people who are |
| MutantTu1key | packaging Trinity currently to start using our GIT repository. We |
| MutantTu1key | currently have a repository that hosts all of the build related files |
| MutantTu1key | for each distro and we want to make this a central hub for packagers. |
| MutantTu1key | Timothy Pearson has asked me to spearhead this task and so I am |
| MutantTu1key | reaching out to everyone for help. So what does this mean for you? |
| MutantTu1key | just uploading your latest package building scripts ( I am unfamiliar |
| MutantTu1key | with what Mandriva uses to do so ) to our tde-packaging repository. |
| MutantTu1key | Another thing we would like you to do is join the trinity-devel |
| MutantTu1key | mailing list, so that you can keep in touch with our latest |
| MutantTu1key | developments. |
| MutantTu1key | If you are interested in helping out, email me back and we can get you |
| MutantTu1key | setup with a user for the GIT repository. |
| MutantTu1key | Hoping to have you on board, |
| MutantTu1key | oh so sorry |
| MutantTu1key | did that go through? :| |
| MutantTu1key | I apologize. |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Channel flooding isn't nice... |
| kb9vqf | distro should be distribution |
| MutantTu1key | I accidentaly pasted it. |
| kb9vqf | also mention that the Trinity source files (e.g. the 3.5.12 files or anything from our SVN tree) should NOT be uploaded to GIT |
| MutantTu1key | gah I alreadry sent it by accident also. |
| kb9vqf | packaging control files and distribution specific patches only |
| MutantTu1key | this just went from bad to terrible. |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | wait and see if you get a response |
| MutantTu1key | hopefully in my follow up email I can clarify |
| kb9vqf | then clarify |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTu1key | ok |
| KingSphinx | Hey, is there a way to get Trinity to let me access my Windows partition? It's always been telling me "Access denied" when I try to access it through Konqueror. |
| KingSphinx | The only way I can access it is if I mount it in GNOME first. |
| kb9vqf | launch konqueror as root via kdesudo |
| kb9vqf | there are some limits on mounting NTFS partitions |
| kb9vqf | gnome may override them somehow, but if they do they are violating the spirit of the limitation, which is designed to prevent corruption of NTFS paritions by ordinary users |
| kb9vqf | note: I have not tried to get at NTFS partitions in a while, so I can't help much |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: we should get a F.A.Q. together as well as a wiki page explaining some common stuff. |
| MutantTu1key | I can start piecing it together. |
| kb9vqf | sounds good to me |
| kb9vqf | puting it on the Wiki is a good idea |
| kb9vqf | *putting |
| MutantTu1key | yeah |
| kb9vqf | I'm a bit too close to the project to know what good questions would be, but I can provide the answers if you want to throw a list of questions on the Wiki |
| MutantTu1key | and then we should have distro specific wiki pages. |
| MutantTu1key | Ok emails sent to franicos also. |
| kb9vqf | you have a wiki account, correct? |
| kb9vqf | all of this should go into the documentation web |
| MutantTu1key | I do |
| MutantTu1key | I can't work right now. |
| MutantTu1key | I have to go back to my useless php debugging job.... |
| MutantTu1key | but I emailed them so hopefully they will be interested. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: fixed in SVN revision r1249343 |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: frankly I am happy we are using CMake partially |
| MutantTu1key | it is much cleaner than the autohell |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | I never was able to get Autotools to work for arts/kdelibs/kdebase |
| kb9vqf | something very subtle broke in there |
| MutantTu1key | good. |
| kb9vqf | no, it's not good, but fortunately CMake works instead :) |
| MutantTu1key | exactly |
| KingSphinx | Did the port of Qt3 to TQt help with moving to CMake over Autotools? |
| MutantTu1key | wasn't effected. |
| MutantTu1key | at least I thought it wasn't |
| kb9vqf | nope, didn't help at all |
| kb9vqf | TQt will allow Trinity to do some cool things later on |
| kb9vqf | it was a major under-the-hood alteration that users and even some developers shouldn't even see :) |
| MutantTu1key | :D |
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| KingSphinx | Cool things? Like that new KRandR that no other desktop has? |
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| MutantTu1key | KingSphinux |
| MutantTu1key | more like things that will reduce bitrot |
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| MutantTu1key | KingSphinx: |
| MutantTu1key | not cool things, more like things that will help keep trinity maintainable in the years to come |
| KingSphinx | Keep it from falling behind, so to speak? |
| MutantTu1key | well yes. |
| MutantTu1key | and just general maintainabilty |
| MutantTu1key | for example CMake is easier to deal with than automake |
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| MutantTu1key | tim tim tim! |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: |
| MutantTu1key | email response from Francois. of RHEL |
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| MutantTu1key | off to catch the train! kb9vqf: I replied to francois and told him to email you to setup a git account. |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: ^__^ works, thanks! |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: hey |
| MutantTurkey | about to got to work - but I got emails back from both people. |
| MutantTurkey | I told them both to email you to get git account setup |
| MutantTurkey | so once they do that let me know ;) |
| MutantTurkey | then we should be good to go |
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| MutantTurkey | the rains a-coming |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: did they email you yet? |
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| user____ | Hi! |
| user____ | How is going 3.13? |
| user____ | Is there a date to release?? |
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| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Only francois |
| kb9vqf | I responded to him last night |
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| Jota | Is there a date to release 3.13?? |
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| kb9vqf | Jota: Soon :) |
| kb9vqf | try the nightly builds if you use Debian or Ubuntu |
| kb9vqf | they will be very close to the finished product |
| Jota | Can the night builds install via apt-get?? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| Jota | I have a spare squeeze install I can use to test |
| kb9vqf | sounds good |
| kb9vqf | we'd like to know about bugs before 3.5.13 is released ;-) |
| Jota | what are the repositories for apt?? are there some instrutions? |
| kb9vqf | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dependencies/ubuntu squeeze main |
| kb9vqf | deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dependencies/ubuntu squeeze main |
| kb9vqf | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu squeeze main |
| kb9vqf | deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu squeeze main |
| kb9vqf | no instructions yet; put those lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list file and run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| Jota | ok |
| Jota | will try tonight |
| kb9vqf | let us know if you run into any problems :) |
| Jota | hope there's no bugs ;-) |
| Jota | ah... in that squeeze install, I have a "old" kde 3.10 - from lenny... do I need to first delete it? |
| kb9vqf | I have absolutely no idea, sorry |
| kb9vqf | never tried it |
| kb9vqf | in theory it should be OK |
| kb9vqf | but it would also be the first place I would put blame if Trinity malfunctioned in any way ;-) |
| Jota | ahah I see... |
| Jota | I will delete old kde first |
| Jota | to be sure |
| Jota | ok, thanks and bye for now! |
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| KingSphinx | Are nightly builds literally built nightly or is it just a technical term for pre-release stuff? |
| Xu_R | literally built nightly. |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: ps, won't be able to work on packaging this weekend. got too much to do... srry. |
| KingSphinx | Ah... that had bugged me for a while. Sorry if that's an obvious question |
| Xu_R | np |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | bug 1 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Landscape PDF printed as portrait (and truncated) |
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| windowshasyou | Is there a more up to date repo for gentoo ebuilds? The sergi repo doesn't seem to have been updated in a month or so now. |
| kb9vqf | not that I know of |
| kb9vqf | and I have not heard from Serghei in quite a while |
| windowshasyou | alright. Thanks for answering. |
| KingSphinx | Can't you just build Trinity from that source tarball if necessary? |
| windowshasyou | KingSphinx: I can. I thought I'd ask first. I'm modifying sergis ebuilds to install to lib64 and changing the keywords first |
| Qu4Z | windowshasyou: As a fellow gentoo user, I'm interested in seeing how you get on. |
| Qu4Z | I'm currently trying to build the svn version, which is going okay for the most part, but I only have so much time |
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| windowshasyou | Qu4Z: I nearly had it on my last attempt. The problem I ran into was that the kgreet plugin for kdm apparently got lost. |
| windowshasyou | gave up after a day or so |
| windowshasyou | this was 4 months ago |
| windowshasyou | I figured I'd try it again |
| windowshasyou | nothing else to do with the way the economy is |
| Qu4Z | Was that autotools version or cmake version? |
| Qu4Z | Autotools, I'd guess, if you wanted a usable desktop :P |
| windowshasyou | cmake |
| windowshasyou | my mistake at the time |
| KingSphinx | Was 3.5.12 built with CMake or Autotools? |
| Qu4Z | Oh? Okay. Yeah, fair enough. I'm doing CMake now, so that'll be interesting. |
| KingSphinx | Also, I can't wait for 3.5.13. It's so close to release! |
| Qu4Z | :) Yeah. |
| * KingSphinx would use Nightly, but I kinda value having a working system. :P | |
| Qu4Z | I already have a working system :) It's called screen :P |
| windowshasyou | lol |
| windowshasyou | so I have to uninstall all of kde4 again because of conflicts with qt. I can't say that makes me sad |
| Qu4Z | In *theory* Trinity is compatible with kde4, lol |
| windowshasyou | I'm waiting for that qt4 wrapper to appear |
| KingSphinx | It is with Ubuntu, in my experience. |
| Qu4Z | Oh, right. That's probably more being unable to install qt4 and qt3 side-by-side, yeah? |
| windowshasyou | well you guys have aptitude for the package manager. portage has acting handicapped lately |
| windowshasyou | yep |
| windowshasyou | ever since they started doing away with slots... |
| Qu4Z | I only recently switched back to Gentoo. Are they doing away with slots? |
| Qu4Z | That seems... silly |
| windowshasyou | Qu4Z: They are trying to. |
| windowshasyou | They are also handicapping alot of other things "for the good of the users" |
| Qu4Z | :/ |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, I have heard that it's been going downhill lately |
| windowshasyou | they were trying to make python bindings mandatory for kde as well |
| Qu4Z | o_O |
| windowshasyou | got a little user revolt over that |
| KingSphinx | Seriously? Gentoo dumbing itself down? |
| Qu4Z | Have they talked to any of their users? |
| Qu4Z | Do they even know what their userbase looks like? o_O |
| KingSphinx | I thought the entire point of Gentoo was to provide as much control over the system as possible? |
| windowshasyou | Qu4Z: you could call it talking... in a way. They slam everyone that says people don't need that kind of hand holding |
| KingSphinx | If people want their hand held, they don't need to be using Gentoo. |
| windowshasyou | exactly |
| windowshasyou | The gentoo devs can't understand why funtoo is gaining traction now |
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| windowshasyou | since the founder of gentoo created that and decided to keep things as minimal as possible. |
| Qu4Z | Exactly. It seems like customisability is one of the main features of gentoo. Abandoning that to go after *buntu's market share seems silly |
| KingSphinx | While I personally don't care for Gentoo (I just want something to work), I understand its purpose and why people use it. Abandoning that base to go for "derp simplicity! one-click install!" is a death trap, IMO. |
| Qu4Z | KingSphinx: I like Gentoo 'cause I don't have to install cups. |
| windowshasyou | Qu4Z: I remember asking in gentoo-kde if they were going to consider adding TDE to portage at some point... I was basically laughed at and kicked from the channel. |
| Qu4Z | :/ |
| Qu4Z | I hadn't even looked at funtoo |
| Qu4Z | It looks interesting, though |
| windowshasyou | I've been looking at it and LFS |
| windowshasyou | again* |
| KingSphinx | Gentoo seems to increasingly be becoming the "sekkret haxx0r club!!11!!1oneone" of Linux, judging from the userbase. |
| Qu4Z | Ah, yeah. LFS does look fun, but I do like portage |
| windowshasyou | KingSphinx: sure seems that way... got alot of script kiddies in the channels anymore |
| KingSphinx | IMO, Ubuntu's really no more restricted than any other version of Linux other than root being locked (and even then, sudo's got you covered). Those that deride Ubuntu users (or any other "easy-to-use") just because they didn't go through hours of compiling utils/kernel/programs are one of the big reasons Linux has such a negative perception in the public eye. |
| KingSphinx | </rant> |
| Qu4Z | I have no problem with Ubuntu. It's nice enough. It's just not as customisable (or I don't know how to customise it) without manually building my packages |
| KingSphinx | Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. Seen way too much animosity between the two camps on the Internet. Sad, really, since it's all Linux... |
| Qu4Z | As I understand it (and feel free to correct me) if my *buntu maintainer decides that vim has been compiled with X and cups support, then there's no way for me to say "Actually, I don't have X on this box. Just install it without X support" |
| Qu4Z | Fair enough. |
| Qu4Z | I have no animosity against it. I recommend it to people all the time :) (Less now, I don't much like unity) |
| Qu4Z | But it's not for me. |
| windowshasyou | nor I. |
| KingSphinx | If you use Gentoo, that's great... nay, awesome, really, but I can't stand it when people flame others just because of the distro they use. Not implicating you (you're very nice), just saying I've seen enough hate online and I'm sick of it is all. Can't Linux just get along? |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, I know. Distro-wars are kinda pointless :/ |
| KingSphinx | And Qu4Z, I'm not much of a fan of Unity either :P |
| KingSphinx | It works fine on my machine, it's just not quite my cup of tea. |
| Qu4Z | :) I suppose that's not surprising in #trinity-desktop lol |
| Qu4Z | Also, dammit. I just finished installing Gentoo on my new computer. Now I want to install funtoo instead :P |
| kb9vqf | #trinity-desktop....for all those I-hate-smartphone-desktops misfits :) |
| windowshasyou | Qu4Z: lol |
| KingSphinx | Did you remember to make your /home and /root separate? |
| Qu4Z | /home and / you mean? |
| KingSphinx | Yeah, that's what I meant. >_>; |
| * kb9vqf notes that all distributions are welcome here...we just may not have much knowledge about them yet ;-) | |
| Qu4Z | All good :) Yeah. I actually have all my data under /data on a separate drive. Then I symlink in ~/pics ~/video ~/music and ~/projects |
| KingSphinx | I know, I welcome all kinds as well, that rant was just something I've wanted to get off my chest for a while. |
| windowshasyou | Qu4Z: BTW, the final straw for me with the gentoo-kde4 people is when they started talking about making mono mandatory |
| Qu4Z | It's nice to start with a clean set of .* dirs |
| Qu4Z | windowshasyou: Seriously? That's some rubbish right there. |
| KingSphinx | I actually don't mind Mono, but mandatory? That's stupid. |
| windowshasyou | seriously |
| Qu4Z | I like C# as a language, it's fairly decent. I sometimes install mono apps, but... requiring it seems a bit silly. |
| windowshasyou | to me, mono is a big no no. The whole reason for me using Linux is to avoid MS stuff. |
| windowshasyou | I don't need something installed that potentially gives MS a reason to mess with my systems |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, fair enough. And I support that. Practicality dictates I install mono sometimes but the point of Gentoo for me is being configurable |
| KingSphinx | What exactly is so bad about Mono? I've never understood that |
| Qu4Z | KingSphinx: Speculation that it's a trap by MS |
| kb9vqf | that is the KDE4 mentality in a nutshell...require as many bloated backend libraries as possible, all to make the frontend code overly simple |
| windowshasyou | KingSphinx: Mono is a derivative of an MS language. Its one of the things that came out of the Novell/MS alliance |
| Qu4Z | Yeah. I hope we're making an effort to debloat KDE3, or at least keep it as debloated as possible. |
| windowshasyou | and now they have the founder of gnome, that miguel whatever hooked on it. |
| KingSphinx | embrace, extend, extinguish at work? |
| kb9vqf | yep, we're very close to the base system libraries right now :) |
| windowshasyou | pretty much. I've always thought of it as a control via proxy technique |
| kb9vqf | I think the worst thing we use is HAL |
| windowshasyou | last time I tried to get it all going, it didn't require hal |
| Qu4Z | I tried to install qt3 with --system-libjpeg --system-libmng --system-libpng etc, but it didn't like that very much :/ |
| windowshasyou | has it been reinstated? |
| KingSphinx | Any chance of converting to UDisks/UPower? |
| kb9vqf | It doesn't technically NEED hal, but udisks/upower have a horrid API |
| kb9vqf | so unless someone sponsors the work probably not anytime soon |
| KingSphinx | Ah |
| Qu4Z | Sponsors or does, presumably. |
| kb9vqf | there was a discussion on this channel about that not too long ago :) |
| KingSphinx | Well, I've never really noticed a difference between the two... |
| kb9vqf | and yes, either one is fine :) |
| kb9vqf | On the programming end there is a big difference |
| windowshasyou | I don't care much if udisks works with TDE. I just want a desktop that doesn't keep a dual core at 25 percent usage constatly |
| Qu4Z | Like I said, I'm trying to get the building going on my box at the moment. Once that's working I should at least be able to provide testing/bug reports |
| windowshasyou | and makes my gpu hot enough to fry eggs |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| Qu4Z | Hopefully do some dev work, too, but it'd be my first time contributing to any project this big. |
| kb9vqf | I'm idling at < 5% CPU now :) |
| KingSphinx | My graphics card idles at 70 degrees Celcius. |
| windowshasyou | mine is supposed to idle at 40 C |
| kb9vqf | it's not idle then :-P |
| windowshasyou | and it does when I'm using kde3 or xfce4 |
| windowshasyou | when kde4 is running, its way higher than that |
| windowshasyou | even with desktop effects turned off |
| KingSphinx | Then again, I think the fan might be dead on my card. For a while after I figured out the fan was unplugged, it idled at 60, but a few months later, it's back to 70. |
| KingSphinx | Fortunately, it never goes above 80, even after playing Team Fortress 2 maxed out. |
| kb9vqf | the way I look at it this project is here as a sort of technical opposite to KDE4/Windows 8/Gnome 3/Apple iOS |
| kb9vqf | if you want the bling use one of those ;-) |
| KingSphinx | A desktop environment for actual desktops? |
| kb9vqf | perish the thought |
| windowshasyou | what a concept... |
| KingSphinx | I still wish KDE4 could've managed to port Kicker over, then it'd be a bit more "desktop-like" |
| kb9vqf | but they don't *want* the desktop concept |
| kb9vqf | and it shows everywhere |
| windowshasyou | maybe kde 5 will work out better |
| kb9vqf | I don't even like using any KDE4 *apps* |
| kb9vqf | they are light years behind equivalent Windows apps |
| Qu4Z | My main concern with KDE4 is that everything is basically apps |
| Qu4Z | Well, that and the resource usage |
| KingSphinx | The whole "semantic desktop" concept is cool and all, but I just want a functional desktop. :) |
| kb9vqf | apps instead of applications |
| Qu4Z | Yeah |
| kb9vqf | I like applications :) |
| Qu4Z | Everything is for one purpose only, and doesn't integrate with anything else |
| kb9vqf | you know, those things you can sit down with and accomplish an entire workflow with only one or two? |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Qu4Z | I mean, I know the unix philosophy is everything should only do one thing, but A) it should do it well, and B) the idea is you can compose thigns |
| kb9vqf | you need a very good desktop to glue all those splinters together |
| Qu4Z | That's why I love KParts and KIO |
| kb9vqf | a smartphone UI can't efficently paste all the pieces back together |
| Qu4Z | I'm not suggesting we should have different apps for everything. That works for unix commands, but... |
| KingSphinx | Plasma tries to do everything for the desktop, with mixed results at best. |
| windowshasyou | speaking of KIO, I wonder if TDE Kio has been patched to work with glibc 2.14 |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | what was the problem? |
| windowshasyou | kb9vqf: upstream deleted a ton of old code and rearranged some stuff |
| KingSphinx | KDE4 got rid of KIO slaves? |
| Qu4Z | KingSphinx: No, but somehow it feels like it |
| kb9vqf | upstream? |
| kb9vqf | I don't get it |
| windowshasyou | it broke alot of stuff including all versions of kde 4 till 4 |
| kb9vqf | what is failing in TDE? |
| windowshasyou | 4.7.0 |
| windowshasyou | kb9vqf: nothing yet. I'm just wondering if KIO has been patched for it. |
| kb9vqf | well, no |
| kb9vqf | if nothing is broken then no patches are needed |
| Qu4Z | KingSphinx: Somehow, in KDE3 it always felt like I could fire up an image editor, get the open file dialog, paste in a url, and it'd open it just fine. |
| windowshasyou | If not, I'll be sending a patch upstream |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | send it to the trinity-devel mailing list |
| kb9vqf | it will get trapped and we can apply it |
| windowshasyou | alright. |
| windowshasyou | specifically it was the nfs kio that broke |
| windowshasyou | pretty useless for some people, but an aggravation if you are running the latest glibc |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I'd be glad to look at the patch |
| kb9vqf | when will you be able to send it |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| windowshasyou | If it bombs out, I'll write one and send it probably tomorrow |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I'll keep an eye out for it :) |
| kb9vqf | IIRC there was some problem with nfs and possibly fish now that you mention it |
| kb9vqf | so I will see if your patch can be applied to other kioslaves |
| windowshasyou | sounds good to me |
| kb9vqf | I am on glibc 2.12 so I haven't run into it myself yet |
| kb9vqf | well , that and 2.13 |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, I remember fish being broken. |
| windowshasyou | I know that qt3 will have to be patched if gcc 4.6 or later becomes the standard |
| kb9vqf | we maintain Qt3 |
| kb9vqf | and it has been patched already |
| kb9vqf | it compiles quite nicely :) |
| windowshasyou | oh right on. |
| Qu4Z | I built it with 4.6.something yesterday, iirc |
| Qu4Z | Actually, not sure what version I have installed, but the latest ~amd64 Gentoo version, anyway |
| kb9vqf | Absorbing Qt3 has allowed Trinity to fix some age-old bugs |
| kb9vqf | because we can now alter the Qt3 API slightly :) |
| windowshasyou | does it finally support threads? |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea |
| windowshasyou | I know the last trolltech release broke when trying to compile with it. |
| kb9vqf | It probably does |
| kb9vqf | you'd have to try though |
| kb9vqf | I don't remember OTOH if Ubuntu enabled threading |
| kb9vqf | I seem to remember they did |
| * kb9vqf is referring to the Debian package build control files | |
| windowshasyou | wow... It just finished compiling with threading enabled... I was half expecting it to bomb out. |
| Qu4Z | windowshasyou: It works |
| Qu4Z | Just don't try using -system-lib<various image formats> |
| windowshasyou | lol I used the safe defaults. |
| windowshasyou | I don't want to be up half the night recompiling because it doesn't like the system libs |
| Qu4Z | Fair enough :) From memory there were a couple of things I wanted that I manually enabled. |
| Qu4Z | Hah, yeah. |
| kb9vqf | There have been a lot of improvements in our Qt3 version :) |
| kb9vqf | This is not your grandpa's KDE3 desktop or libraries |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| windowshasyou | kb9vqf: I can see that. I think its great. Some group is finally listening to the complaints and doing something about it. |
| windowshasyou | and not slamming people |
| kb9vqf | We aim to please |
| windowshasyou | other groups could take lessons from you on that. |
| * kb9vqf is embarrased :) | |
| kb9vqf | I keep hoping Linux will straighten out |
| kb9vqf | maybe once the smartphone craze dies down a bit |
| windowshasyou | likewise. |
| KingSphinx | You have Android to blame. It's a double-edged sword... |
| Qu4Z | Man... I wanna head home from work and compile things now >_< |
| Qu4Z | Can I post build errors here and get help? :) |
| kb9vqf | Of course |
| kb9vqf | if we're around that is |
| Qu4Z | I had some issue building kdelibs yesterday, but can't remember what. |
| kb9vqf | be sure to use pastebin |
| Qu4Z | Of course :) I was more asking whether this was also an appropriate venue for support |
| kb9vqf | yes it is |
| Qu4Z | Hah, yeah. I'll try not to spam up the chat more than I already do by talking excessively :P |
| kb9vqf | this is the general anything-related-to-the-Trinity-desktop channel |
| Qu4Z | Neat :) |
| kb9vqf | talk about anything you like |
| Qu4Z | Oh, random point: How do I get cmake to tell me what options are available? |
| Qu4Z | It took a bit of guessing before I got to -DWITH_CUPS=OFF |
| kb9vqf | I don't know if any way other than looking in the CMakeLists.txt files |
| windowshasyou | thats the only way I know of |
| kb9vqf | in fact, you could search for all CMakeLists.txt files that contain "WITH_" |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, now that I know it's WITH_ that helps a lot |
| kb9vqf | because all Trinity options start with WITH_ |
| Qu4Z | Okay, that's cool |
| kb9vqf | np |
| Qu4Z | Except -DUSE_QT3 |
| kb9vqf | BTW I keep an eye on things here usually so that I can tell if we are ticking off our userbase or making them happy ;-) |
| kb9vqf | same with Xu_R and MutantTurkey AFAIK |
| Qu4Z | Neat :) Well, I'm on the making happy list :) I'll be happier once I actually get it running, but the screenshots and feature lists look awesome :) |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | there are more features in SVN now |
| windowshasyou | hey, as long as it works and it doesn't use an inordinate amount of resouces... oh and doesn't depend on gtk, I'm happy with it. |
| Qu4Z | And 3.5.10 makes me happy for the most part. Except that konqueror is pretty 50/50 regarding rendering pages correctly :/ |
| kb9vqf | gtk stinks |
| kb9vqf | yeah, that's a known problem |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, I realised :) It's fairly easy to reproduce. |
| windowshasyou | gtk is one big mess of spaghetti dependencies |
| kb9vqf | I would love to switch to something like Webkit, but there are a few more changes that need to be made before that can even be entertained |
| KingSphinx | Konq was good for its time, but it's starting to show its age as a web browser. |
| Qu4Z | Are there plans to port to webkit, or are you gonna maintain-- ah, you pre-empted me? :) |
| kb9vqf | Konq is still an excellent everything-but-a-Web-browser tool |
| kb9vqf | The web browser is just a plugin |
| KingSphinx | Current KDE4 version of Konq is a lot better browser-wise though. |
| kb9vqf | a plugin that can be rewritten to call something else |
| Qu4Z | Yeah. Konq is amazing. I think it really exemplifies waht I like about KDE3 |
| windowshasyou | KingSphinx: have you tried the 4.7 konq? |
| kb9vqf | well yes, and it's also a lot worse of a file manager :-P |
| windowshasyou | that thing crashes just loading google |
| Qu4Z | But the web-browser support working would be neat, too. |
| Qu4Z | Otherwise I have to use chrome, or ff. |
| kb9vqf | Honestly Chrome is a nice browser |
| kb9vqf | Part of me wonders if it could be embedded in Konq |
| KingSphinx | Just wish I could get Chromium to actually let me save stuff while in Trinity. |
| kb9vqf | That is probably fixed in SVN |
| Qu4Z | I've been getting the impression chromium's been getting slower, actually. But agreed, it is nice. |
| kb9vqf | not sure |
| Qu4Z | If we could embed it, that would be an A+ solution to the rendering thing :) |
| windowshasyou | cool.. kdelibs is building with cmake |
| Qu4Z | windowshasyou: Is building or has built? |
| windowshasyou | is building |
| Qu4Z | I got part way through, then died. So I went to bed. |
| windowshasyou | its at 8 percent right now |
| Qu4Z | OK. |
| Qu4Z | Good luck :) I want to head home and fix mine now, but sadly, I can't. |
| kb9vqf | just pastebin the error and poke me with it |
| windowshasyou | lol I've been there... spend all my time at work day dreaming and making lists of things I want to fix |
| kb9vqf | or send it to the trinity-devel mailing list |
| Qu4Z | kb9vqf: Will do, thanks. I'll have a crack at fixing it myself first. It's probably nothing too hard, just something I missed late last night |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| kb9vqf | I would appreciate that |
| kb9vqf | and if it needs patching send the patch to the trinity-devel list |
| kb9vqf | that way it could be included in SVN :) |
| windowshasyou | Qu4Z: Are you running a multilib system? |
| Qu4Z | Yeah |
| windowshasyou | that might account for it. I'm on no-multilib |
| Qu4Z | Oh, okay. How's that working for you? I find every now and then I want *some* -32 thing. Like dosbox |
| windowshasyou | So far, so good. I've used no-multilib for 2 years now without issue |
| windowshasyou | The system seemed to be a bit more stable for me going that route |
| Qu4Z | Oh, neat. I'd kinda like to... all these 32-bit compat packages feel a bit crufty, but... :/ |
| Qu4Z | Well, I'll bear that in mind. Maybe next install I'll try going the no-multilib route. |
| windowshasyou | Once Carmack releases the doom3 sources, I won't have any regrets. Hopefully he keeps his promise of releasing it around the 13th of next month |
| windowshasyou | Last time I emailed him, his reply said the only thing holding it up was a creative labs patent. |
| windowshasyou | over that EAX stuff |
| Qu4Z | Neat :) Does that mean you could run doom3 under multilib? |
| windowshasyou | Once its opensourced and the ioquake group gets it, it means that you won't need multilib to run it. that group created a sparc, solaris, nomultilib, smartphone port of quake3 |
| windowshasyou | their revised source runs pretty well. |
| windowshasyou | they have ported it to other archs as well |
| Qu4Z | Neat :) Didn't know that. Not much of a gamer, myself. Or bioware and SNES, when I do. |
| windowshasyou | Is bioware still around? |
| windowshasyou | last I heard, ea-games wanted to buy them out |
| Qu4Z | Sorta :/ I think someone bought them, but then left them some freedom. I mostly play the older stuff :P |
| windowshasyou | oh ok. I buy the IDSoftware games because they have a tradition of supporting non windows OS |
| windowshasyou | Used to do the same thing for epic games till they had their hissy fit |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, it's true. I do approve of that :) FPS just isn't raelly my poison. |
| KingSphinx | Hissy fit? |
| Qu4Z | Epic games == Epic MegaGames? |
| windowshasyou | KingSphinx: Qu4Z: yeah |
| windowshasyou | they basically pulled the plug on the ut3 linux client and then went public saying all computer users are pirates |
| Qu4Z | :/ |
| windowshasyou | and they won't be making any games for anything but consoles now |
| Qu4Z | Man, localpatch in funtoo is exactly what I've wanted many times in gentoo. |
| KingSphinx | Psshh, screw 'em. |
| windowshasyou | after they had slapped the tux logo on the ut3 box and told everyone they were working with icculous to make the nix and mac port |
| windowshasyou | he got as far as making a working installer that was relatively bug free, then epic pulled the plug |
| windowshasyou | they refused to give anyone a refund for buying it over the tux logo |
| Qu4Z | That's kinda a dick move |
| windowshasyou | lol yep |
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| windowshasyou | tde libs just finished compiling |
| Qu4Z | :D Cool. Hopefully I can replicate this feat when I get home. Heading off now :) |
| windowshasyou | Qu4Z: Good luck : ) |
| Qu4Z | Thanks :) |
| ar | http://notalwaysright.com/youve-got-the-wrongest-make/13347 - lol |
| KingSphinx | ...XD wow |
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| Qu4Z | I like the suggestion that to install we execute "make install || exit 1" |
| Qu4Z | Why yes, I do want to close my shell in frustration if I've managed to struggle through all of configuring and building, and then the INSTALL step fails |
| Qu4Z | Hm... I can't compile kdelibs/dcop/dcopserver.cpp because HAVE_SYS_STAT_H isn't being set, even though I have a sys/stat.h |
| Qu4Z | Anyone know what's responsible for setting that macro? Presumably cmake, in some way shape or form... |
| Qu4Z | (if I comment out the #ifdef HAVE_SYS_STAT_H around the include, it builds fine) |
| Qu4Z | Ah, looks like it's in CMakeLists.txt. I guess I should learn cmake at some point :/ |
| Qu4Z | Well, I can't replicate it anymore. If I encounter it again, I've learned a lot about cmake in the last half hour :P |
| Qu4Z | Actually, I spoke too soon |
| Qu4Z | The config.h is being generated fine, but it's not included when building, because the first -I is -I/opt/qt3/include |
| Qu4Z | Hope I'm not annoying anyone by liveblogging my attempts in the chan :P I think the troubles I encounter in the process may be useful for posterity |
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| Qu4Z | Hm... looks like the build doesn't fail on a bunch of stuff it probably should |
| Qu4Z | Or rather, the configure should. The build does :P |
| Qu4Z | I can have a crack at it at some point. |
| Qu4Z | Hm... looks like Gentoo has completely removed hal :/ So about that upower/udisks migration :P |
| Qu4Z | Ah well, that's what overlays are for |
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| MutantTu1key | jumpship: hey |
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| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: hey |
| MutantTu1key | where are the man pages generate from with automake? |
| kb9vqf | huh? |
| MutantTu1key | how do we generate man pages? |
| kb9vqf | I don't know :-/ |
| MutantTu1key | :| |
| kb9vqf | dig around in the automake files I guess |
| MutantTu1key | jumpship was trying to fix up some manpage problems for yakuake and I can't find it either |
| kb9vqf | did you do a general search for the text of the manpage? |
| kb9vqf | e.g. a couple of words or a phrase that are in the generated manpage? |
| kb9vqf | once you find the originating file you can then search for it's name in the Automake files |
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| MutantTu1key | jumpship: sorry my VPS went down |
| MutantTu1key | back online:) |
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| MutantTu1key | dang |
| MutantTu1key | this is annoying |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: I am boggled |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| MutantTu1key | I literally searched the entire applications/ tree for this string |
| MutantTu1key | "YaKuake is inspired from the terminal in the Quake game" |
| MutantTu1key | which is in the man page |
| MutantTu1key | to find out how it was generated. I can't even find the source of the string |
| kb9vqf | that is probably too large of a string |
| kb9vqf | try "Quake game" |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: good thinking |
| kb9vqf | there are control characters, line breaks, etc that could mess up the search :) |
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| MutantTu1key | hey TokRa! |
| TokRa | hail MutantTu1key |
| MutantTu1key | How are you/ |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: also did those guys email you? |
| kb9vqf | As I mentioned, one did |
| kb9vqf | and the other did not |
| MutantTu1key | sorry I didn't see |
| MutantTu1key | ( i know i am being quite an annoying jerk about it constantly poking you and such ) |
| MutantTu1key | but just trying to keep it moving |
| kb9vqf | that's fine :) |
| kb9vqf | I granted francios his account |
| kb9vqf | you can follow up with the other guy if you want |
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| MutantTu1key | ok |
| MutantTu1key | and we won't be able to do the flash plugin thing, unless thier kcm files are compatible. |
| MutantTu1key | kde4 that is |
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| kb9vqf | I know |
| kb9vqf | and no, they are not compatible |
| MutantTu1key | but are kcm files compiled? |
| MutantTu1key | or are they like xml files? |
| kb9vqf | they are compiled |
| MutantTu1key | shucks |
| kb9vqf | they are C++ kparts plugins |
| MutantTu1key | okay |
| MutantTu1key | so there is no way we can even do it |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea why Flash did that in the first place :-/ |
| MutantTu1key | I don't use flash anyway. |
| MutantTu1key | why? probably one of the devels uses KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | that expains some of Flash's bloat and bugginess ;-) |
| kb9vqf | (the fact that a dev likes KDE4) |
| hazridi | nah, flash is older than KDE 4 by like 7 years... its just old, and crap, and from before we cared about such things like code quality |
| kb9vqf | It's a bit ridiculous when modern computers still choke on flash apps from 5 years ago |
| MutantTu1key | flash in general is ridiculous |
| kb9vqf | so KDE4 got its ideas from Flash? Interesting :) |
| MutantTu1key | hahaha |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 does remind me of a bad Flash game... |
| kb9vqf | never put my finger on it till now |
| hazridi | I dont honestly think KDE4 is that bad |
| kb9vqf | I do :) |
| hazridi | it's not gnome |
| kb9vqf | Well, Gnome is in a class all by itself |
| kb9vqf | It's a DE especially designed for idiots |
| kb9vqf | /rant |
| hazridi | I'd be happy if I could get oxygen to work in trinity ;-) |
| kb9vqf | You like the colors, widgets and such? |
| kb9vqf | I think there are one or two Oxygen knockoffs floating around |
| hazridi | don't care about widgets |
| * kb9vqf hates them personally | |
| hazridi | I like the oxygen theme |
| kb9vqf | well, the theme encompasses colors, window handles, general interaction, and widget style |
| kb9vqf | so I would need to know which one(s) you like :) |
| hazridi | the window decoration |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| hazridi | colors also I suppose |
| hazridi | I use the grey color on my desktop and in KDE all the apps look perfect.. actually with oxygen-gtk even gtk apps look mostly like KDE apps now |
| kb9vqf | have a look on kde-look and see if you like anything there |
| hazridi | I did try |
| hazridi | Most of it just failed to work, heh |
| kb9vqf | Personally I always found Oxygen to use about 3x the x/y space (e.g. 9x the area) of an equivalent desktop from another manufacturer |
| hazridi | for some reason even plastik is busted |
| kb9vqf | plastik is in Trinity already |
| kb9vqf | and we do have the GTK engine |
| MutantTu1key | I find the smaller the space the more i like the theme. |
| kb9vqf | a lot of GTK apps blend in almost perfectly |
| MutantTu1key | I actually think Mac OS X does an very good job at this. |
| MutantTu1key | their widgets (while I don't like them all) and Icons are very minimal and easy to work with and recognize |
| MutantTu1key | they are pretty lean on their space usage |
| hazridi | Oxygen doesn't seem to have large decorations to me at all |
| kb9vqf | MutantTu1key: Yes, but their interaction is quite bad |
| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: agreed. |
| kb9vqf | the window decorations are OK I guess |
| kb9vqf | but the widgets stink' |
| MutantTu1key | I have been using this mac for the entire summer at my internship |
| MutantTu1key | it's terrible |
| MutantTu1key | it's an old G5. slow as molassas. |
| MutantTu1key | molassass or whatever. |
| MutantTu1key | definitely spelled wrong. |
| kb9vqf | IIRC we have a nice Mac theme somewhere :) |
| kb9vqf | if you like that look |
| MutantTu1key | one thinkI like about mac is they distinguish between applications for switching |
| hazridi | The only widgets I use are: task bar, clock, system tray, and calendar (because it comes up when I click on the clock) |
| MutantTu1key | so Alt+tab moves between apps Alt+` moves between windows in the application |
| hazridi | and I don't really have any ideological problem with widgets... i mean, if you want a system tray on your desktop, put it there and it works there. makes sense to me |
| hazridi | of course the system I use KDE 4 on has 8 gb of ram |
| MutantTu1key | just because you have space doesn't give an excuse for crappy software. |
| hazridi | usually about 6.5 GB at any time is just straight up allocated to file cache. |
| MutantTu1key | ... |
| hazridi | (it's free) |
| MutantTu1key | oh |
| MutantTu1key | i thought you meant some sort of kde4 thing |
| MutantTu1key | not regular unix caching |
| hazridi | oh, no |
| hazridi | I turn off all that semantic desktop crap |
| MutantTu1key | my desktop caches all its ram basically |
| kb9vqf | isn't that most of KDE4? ;-) |
| MutantTu1key | after a few days of use |
| hazridi | nah |
| MutantTu1key | 2GB is more than plenty of ram. |
| hazridi | just some widgets and KDE PIM which I dont use since I use gmail |
| hazridi | I actually do have a 2GB notebook running aptosid and kde4 on a partition, its pretty usable there as well |
| kb9vqf | I guess I should rephrase that...I thought the "semantic desktop" (whatever that means) was one of KDE4's main selling points |
| hazridi | all my other notebooks are on trinity though |
| hazridi | since they are slower ;) |
| hazridi | it is |
| hazridi | but that doesn't mean you have to use it |
| hazridi | it's still not gnome |
| kb9vqf | not yet anyway |
| hazridi | you don't even need to have nepomuk or kde pim even installed |
| kb9vqf | But you can't get rid of Plasma, which is the thing I hate most... |
| MutantTu1key | plasma is the dumbest thing ever. |
| kb9vqf | stupid thing looks like it belongs on a smart phone |
| MutantTu1key | and nepomuk is hellish. |
| hazridi | by plasma you mean the entire draw layer? |
| kb9vqf | and method of interaction with the desktop |
| MutantTu1key | by plasma we mean the infernal piece of crap that wastes our resources. |
| hazridi | Qt? :P |
| kb9vqf | I prefer to increase my desktop space when I have free CPU resources instead of sucking them down into useless eye candy :) |
| kb9vqf | that is, the resolution of the desktop |
| kb9vqf | and I meant CPU/GPU |
| MutantTu1key | I did just notice that i have like 1100 packages installed |
| MutantTu1key | because I never remove uneeded dependencies. |
| MutantTu1key | just getting around to that |
| hazridi | heh |
| hazridi | I'm running on sid, and this installation is like 5 years old |
| hazridi | I'm sure my package count is something like 7000 |
| MutantTu1key | 4 year installation here |
| MutantTu1key | meeting bbinabit |
| hazridi | I have a LOT of libraries and headers installed |
| hazridi | kb9vqf: I turn off compositing, I'm not a total freak. Actually I was pretty unhappy with KDE 4 until 4.6 which fixed all the UI lagginess |
| kb9vqf | I'm not trying to insult you :) |
| kb9vqf | just trying to figure out why anyone likes KDE4 at all |
| kb9vqf | (other than certain freaks who can't use a computer unless it looks and acts like their phone) |
| kb9vqf | I guess if you turn off the semantic desktop and compositing, what exactly is the draw over Trinity? |
| hazridi | Well, I'm used to it |
| hazridi | Trinity obviously not in sid's package manager ;) |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| kb9vqf | so it's more of a lack of official distro support than anything else |
| hazridi | Well, I installed KDE4 because it was that, gnome, xfce, or lxde |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | we really should try to get ourselves in upstream soon |
| kb9vqf | downstream rather |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| hazridi | and I'm productive enough with it that I'm not messing around with the DE on my main dev machine |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| hazridi | I still miss a lot of KDE 3 features |
| kb9vqf | although sometime you should use a mouse odomoeter and see which desktop makes you move your wrist the most ;-) |
| hazridi | like having krunner files work over SMB |
| kb9vqf | *odometer |
| hazridi | well, I have a 5600 dpi mouse |
| kb9vqf | nice :) |
| kb9vqf | you get my drift though |
| hazridi | I traverse entire 3840 pixel desktop in 3/4th of an inch |
| hazridi | I mean, it took until 4.6 for Konsole 4 to have the popup context menu when you right click a tab |
| kb9vqf | I know |
| kb9vqf | ugh |
| hazridi | konqueror still is nowhere near what it used to be |
| kb9vqf | The funny thing is I actually like touchscreen technology, but I think it should be used to augment the desktop, not replace it |
| hazridi | they moved to that dolphin crap |
| kb9vqf | you do realize that the lack of popup menus is a) they are hard to implement correctly, especially in Qt4 and b) touchscreens don't have a right mouse button |
| kb9vqf | too much focus on the touchscreen |
| kb9vqf | going from three mouse buttons to one is not a good thing ;-) |
| hazridi | I just got the impression they lost too many devs after the KDE 4 fiasco so they are just understaffed |
| hazridi | touchscreens have long press |
| hazridi | which is the equivalent of the RMB ;-) |
| kb9vqf | yes, but I put the emphasis on *long* |
| kb9vqf | you can ususally put in a few normal taps by the time the RMB registers |
| kb9vqf | so that's how the design the interface |
| * kb9vqf knows from experience | |
| kb9vqf | not only are they understaffed, they don't want to "clutter up" their new, "clean" code with "useless" and/or "old fashioned" features |
| hazridi | It's a little weird to make the desktop touch friendly when Qt hasn't even been ported to android properly, but whatever |
| kb9vqf | I know :-P |
| kb9vqf | such is the nature of fads |
| kb9vqf | underlying some of it though is the fact that Qt4 is designed to be touchscreen friendly |
| kb9vqf | I have tried to implement some basic desktop-type functions on it and it leaves a lot to be desired |
| hazridi | The only Qt coding i've ever done is when I fixed Amarok to work with my ipod touch, lol |
| kb9vqf | Qt3 or Qt4? |
| hazridi | coincidentally, I also make it work with the iphone and ipad, cuz i'm a tool |
| hazridi | qt4, it was amarok 2.3.0 from the GIT repo |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | I don't mind personally regarding the Apple stuff |
| kb9vqf | The iphone/ipad are great little devices |
| hazridi | I'm not really a fan |
| kb9vqf | I just wouldn't give up my computer for one ;-) |
| hazridi | I prefer Android |
| kb9vqf | well, yes |
| hazridi | I actually hate the ipod touch |
| kb9vqf | but for a single purpose "it just works" embedded-type device they are pretty good |
| hazridi | since someone broke libgpod in debian and the only machine it works on is my trinity notebook running stable |
| kb9vqf | fun |
| hazridi | I've spent most of the time I've had it unable to have any computer talk to it unless I booted into windows |
| kb9vqf | so it works in Trinity? |
| kb9vqf | or is Trinity broken as well? |
| kb9vqf | I would like to fix it if it is broken... |
| hazridi | I had to fix it, but it works with amarok in trinity |
| hazridi | It is a debian bug |
| hazridi | The udev rules are wrong, I think |
| hazridi | I don't remember exactly |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | we use HAL and are not affected by the udev problems |
| kb9vqf | in fact this is one reason we still use HAL |
| kb9vqf | it tends to be more reliable right now |
| hazridi | well |
| hazridi | libgpod has never had HAL support |
| hazridi | I guess it's libimobiledevice now |
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| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea then :) |
| kb9vqf | I don't own anything from Apple |
| kb9vqf | never saw a need to listen to music while walking :) |
| hazridi | I just use my phone now, it's a much nicer device. |
| hazridi | Plug it in over USB, I can use mass storage... or I can just take the memory card out and put files on it |
| hazridi | will never go back to an apple product |
| windowshasyou | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6794658.html?sid=14480a290b3082839d83d69189097949 I think this is the best rant I've seen about Gentoo lately. |
| MutantTu1key | isn't libimobiledevice doing well though? |
| windowshasyou | kb9vqf: I got tde to install last night, but none of it was executable. Has anyone else reported an issue when using the cmake builds? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| windowshasyou | alright. I guess I'll be rewriting most of the sergei ebuilds then. |
| kb9vqf | oh fun |
| kb9vqf | do you want to put the fixes in our git? |
| windowshasyou | I might once I confirm the issues are with the ebuilds. |
| windowshasyou | even a chmod a+x didn't fix it. Konsole wasn't excutable, neither was konqueror, or anything else. |
| kb9vqf | that sounds like something else |
| kb9vqf | I have had that before when trying to execute amd64 binaries on a i386 system |
| kb9vqf | for example |
| kb9vqf | all I can say is make sure your gcc flags are not too aggressive |
| kb9vqf | and that you are compiling for the architecture you think you are |
| windowshasyou | I may be wrong, but I would think that when compiling from source, if it wasn't a strict amd64 build, gcc wouldn't finish building. |
| windowshasyou | as for my cflags, its just march=native -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer |
| windowshasyou | but yeah, I'll reexamine everything later |
| windowshasyou | its too hot right now to attempt to compile anything |
| MutantTu1key | your cflags are fine |
| windowshasyou | kb9vqf: Do you know if TDE supports prelinking? |
| MutantTu1key | prelinking? |
| MutantTu1key | windowshasyou: yeah also you should stick your ebuilds in our git. |
| windowshasyou | ‎http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prelink |
| windowshasyou | I will. I just noticed some other things wrong with the TDE ebuild. He didn't specify paths either |
| windowshasyou | I realized that hes said he was guessing at it. So I'm not really complaining. He got off to a good start with them. |
| kb9vqf | no idea, sorry |
| kb9vqf | there is no technical reason why we should break with prelink |
| MutantTu1key | oh |
| MutantTu1key | okay I know what prelinking is |
| windowshasyou | its ok. He should have added in something like this |
| MutantTu1key | its just preloading libraries at startup correct? |
| windowshasyou | PATH=${PREFIX}/bin |
| windowshasyou | ROOTPATH=${PREFIX}/sbin:${PREFIX}/bin |
| windowshasyou | LDPATH=${libdirs} |
| windowshasyou | MANPATH=${PREFIX}/share/man |
| windowshasyou | CONFIG_PROTECT="${PREFIX}/share/config ${PREFIX}/env ${PREFIX}/shutdown /usr/sh$ |
| windowshasyou | #KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 |
| windowshasyou | MutantTu1key: yep. basically. |
| MutantTu1key | then the answer is yes. |
| MutantTu1key | rather - why not? |
| windowshasyou | I wasn't sure if it had been removed or was broke by a patch or something like that. |
| MutantTu1key | I want to see if it works with UPX |
| windowshasyou | I figured I'd ask before I included anything |
| windowshasyou | MutantTu1key: that might be kinda fun to play with |
| MutantTu1key | upx rocks for certain stuff |
| MutantTu1key | It definitely helped on my staticly linked browser |
| MutantTu1key | as well as giant blobs like firefod |
| MutantTu1key | firefox' |
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| windowshasyou | another probably stupid question; Has support for archs like mips, sparc, etc been removed, broken, or anything like that? |
| MutantTu1key | not tested |
| MutantTu1key | we don't have the hardware |
| windowshasyou | ok. I'll set them as ~ then just so one doesn't have to do it later |
| windowshasyou | heres what I've got so far. http://pastebin.com/hN8nJWb8 a little over double the size of the old one for tdelibs |
| MutantTu1key | kdelibs.... |
| MutantTu1key | windowshasyou: we are keeping the original naming conventions |
| windowshasyou | ok |
| MutantTu1key | and instead doing like trinity-kdebase trinity-kdelibs |
| MutantTu1key | and so on |
| MutantTu1key | DESCRIPTION should refer to trinity instead. |
| MutantTu1key | Homepage should be Trinitydesktop.org |
| windowshasyou | ok. I'll change it. |
| MutantTu1key | :) |
| windowshasyou | for description, I just changed it to Trinity Libs. Does anyone have any better suggestions? |
| windowshasyou | ugh! and I just realized I made all kinds of cmake errors |
| MutantTu1key | that is good |
| MutantTu1key | that you changed it |
| MutantTu1key | what sort of errors? |
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| windowshasyou | if use avahi || use bindist ; then |
| windowshasyou | myconf="${myconf} --disable-dnssd" |
| windowshasyou | I keep forgetting that cmake ignores those kinds of arguments |
| windowshasyou | should be DWITH_OUT |
| MutantTu1key | yeah sorry |
| windowshasyou | correction -DWITH_DNSSD=OFF |
| MutantTu1key | that is it |
| MutantTu1key | -DWITH_ITEM=BOOLEAN |
| MutantTu1key | okay, gotta catch the train. cya guys |
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| Xu_R | hello world ^_^ |
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| KingSphinx | Any have any idea as to why my external disks auto-mount upon starting Trinity? I suspect GNOME issues (it usually happens after I see a flicker of my Unity wallpaper), but I'm not entirely sure. |
| KingSphinx | It's not a huge problem or anything (more of a minor annoyance), but I just thought I'd throw it out there. |
| kb9vqf | that's probably it |
| kb9vqf | you should NEVER see your Unity wallpaper |
| kb9vqf | Gnome is launching in the background possibly |
| KingSphinx | ...yep, looks like GNOME (sorry, I just got used to the all-caps way of spelling it) might be launching in the background, because KSysGuard's showing stuff like gnome-keyrig-daemon and gnome-screensaver |
| KingSphinx | *keyring |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | I can't help fix it though :( |
| kb9vqf | too much IRClag here and way too little time :-P |
| Xu_R | great. Hurricane is getting closer to here (outer rings) |
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| KingSphinx | I dunno why, but I'm actually sort of welcoming Irene. Seeing as NC needs the rain and all... |
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| d33tah | i just thought of something i'd find useful: |
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| d33tah | krfb interoperability between kde3 and kde4 |
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| d33tah | afair these two don't work together - it would be cool if i could connect from kde3 to kde4 and the other way round |
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| MutantTurkey | gnome3 is terrible and crappy |
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| KingSphinx | Just like me to sleep through the best parts of the hurricane >_>; oh well, at least I can watch the rain |
| MutantTurkey | >-> |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I am worried |
| MutantTurkey | I will be at work |
| MutantTurkey | I hope my basement can make it. |
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| MutantTurkey | well. everything that could have gone wrong at work did. |
| MutantTurkey | but kb9vqf, I have some qt3 errors. |
| MutantTurkey | http://ix.io/1R7 |
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| MobileTurkey | oh boy |
| MobileTurkey | that hurricane put my basement under. |
| MobileTurkey | My entire office workspace is out of commision for at least a few days. |
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| Xu_R | sigh. my network is very unstable right now (darn you hurricane that didn't do much... except screw my internet around) |
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| KingSphinx | Just out of boredom, I burned a Kubuntu 5.04 live CD earlier. It's so old, it didn't even detect most of my hardware and failed to boot |
| KingSphinx | However, it did boot properly on the old computer in my living room. Managed to get a few things off it (mostly wallpaper-related). |
| KingSphinx | By the way, where do KDE color schemes go when imported? That's always bugged me... |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: ayo! |
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| Strangelv | "Kubuntu 5.04 -- that's what I started with -- if only briefly. 5.10 was released very shortly afterwords. I'd previously been using Libranet 2.8.1, which was getting very long in the tooth, and by the time I had the money to spacre to buy 3.0, 3.0 was no longer available at any price anywhere |
| Strangelv | "That reminds me, though. A TDE based fork of Knoppix could be in arder as well as a way to inmprove our visibility. Call it Toppix? |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: that would be awesome |
| MutantTurkey | Toppix sounds cool. |
| MutantTurkey | I am a knoppix fan |
| Strangelv | Could we use the final version of Knoppix 5.x for a base? |
| * Strangelv isn't sure where to look for it | |
| MutantTurkey | read this |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Knoppix_Remastering_Howto |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| Strangelv | "even the newest version of 6.x was something I couldns't get to work usefully. Then again in addition to not being able to set the correct keyboard layout for me, I have a display on that machine that's almost unusable for a test bench display -- plopping in the SERVER version of Natty means that I get to stare at a red rectangle that reads OUT OF RANGE in block white letters starting a few seconds into bootup |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: get a new display then! |
| Strangelv | Been trying to find one I could replace this one wit,h then use this one in the office |
| Strangelv | "What I want isn't easy to find, though. I want 1200 lines, 24 or moer inches, and under $300 |
| Strangelv | "and evidently it needs to not be by a certian company that starts with an H that has really bad support and poor quality control |
| MutantTurkey | I have a Q2010 and it's okay. |
| MutantTurkey | zthats a compaq |
| MutantTurkey | it is 1600x900 and works |
| Strangelv | "I've been running into a brick wall more and moer often with the limits of my vertical resolution |
| Strangelv | "This monitor is 23" but only has 768 lines. When i got it it was a nonissue as I was frequently 10' away from it |
| MutantTurkey | we8rd |
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| Strangelv | :: finds a hair resotration product named Toppix and a celebrity autograph company named Toppix. A UK web hosting service. A french Engineering firm |
| Strangelv | "Something in Nederlandisch i can't make out |
| * kb9vqf notes thta toppix almost sounds British | |
| Strangelv | "Another possibility would be tnoppix, but would be harder to guess how to pronounce |
| Strangelv | Tdoppix? |
| kb9vqf | hard to pronounce |
| kb9vqf | there is no tn or td digraph in most languages |
| Z_God | Strangelv: in dutch? |
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| KingSphinx | Troppix? Or is that not available as a name? |
| KingSphinx | "Tr"inity Kn"oppix"? ...it's dead in here... |
| Z_God | I think just Knoppix would be good, cause the original Knoppix also ran on KDE3 :) |
| KingSphinx | Well, I was reading in the channel log about the whole name debate, and thought of something I thought was catchy... |
| KingSphinx | Though we could just go the Kubuntu route and just do something like Knoppix: Powered by KDE3/Trinity |
| kb9vqf | toppix, troppix, or knoppix (in that order) |
| kb9vqf | and that is also a good idea :) |
| kb9vqf | (just my opinion on the names) |
| Strangelv | Troppix sounds like it needs a different specialization. 8) |
| Strangelv | "Knoppix is now being used to run something that isn't us. Even if wve could get away with it, I'm not a fan of name collissions |
| * Strangelv can make no gurantees. He's way too overcommitted without another thing to work on | |
| Strangelv | toppix.com is already registered by someone |
| Strangelv | "I'm not going to try just .org if someone tahs .com reserved and isn't using it -- they could put up a site designet to confuse people. I've seen really discredible pseudo-wikis up with wiki names, probably to compell anyone wantingto use the name to force them to bup up the pseudopedia |
| Strangelv | toppix-disc.*? |
| Strangelv | Google newer heard of gnoppix and assumes it's a typo. My search also failed to show me names for other derivatives |
| hazridi | Hasn't knoppix been dead for years? |
| * Strangelv fails to figure out a good domain name and ponders just making it a subdomain or similar of trinitydesktop | |
| hazridi | I'd think debian live would be a better, more up to date system than knoppix |
| Strangelv | "Knoppix is 6.7 or so and is using LXDE |
| Strangelv | "I'm not familiar witht Debian Live. How does it differ from Knoppix? |
| Strangelv | :: looks at http://happyfunquiz.com/d/w1i8k07131 |
| Strangelv | "<er, wrong linsk |
| Strangelv | "That's a phish I got when I typoed a wikipeida link |
| Strangelv | ::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Live |
| Strangelv | "It claims you're today's winner for Wikipedia. |
| * Strangelv goes back to looking for information buried in the Internet Archive | |
| KingSphinx | Isn't there already a Debian-based Trinity? Though you're right, AFAIK, there's no Debian Live version. |
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| hazridi | yes, Exelinux is a Squeeze-based trinity distro |
| hazridi | I think it is actually a live installer |
| Strangelv | Nice. Who maintains it? Any chance of a version based on the current nightly? |
| Strangelv | :: wonders what keeps locking up IceCat a he breaks down and restarts/reloads again |
| * KingSphinx wonder why Debian still insists on the IceWhatever branding :P | |
| Strangelv | "For a reference live distro we could change that to branded firefox |
| Strangelv | ZSelf-aggrandizing wallpaper and logos instead of Debian ones |
| Strangelv | Show off the suite of KDE 3 apps, especially the ones that work wiell in the nightly |
| Strangelv | FileZilla |
| Strangelv | VLC |
| Strangelv | "If we need Gnome dependancies already, throw in the likes of GParted |
| Strangelv | WINE |
| KingSphinx | Wait, isn't VLC Qt4-based? |
| Strangelv | KEDit and Kate if they're not covered in the KDE 3/TDE set |
| Strangelv | What else? |
| Strangelv | Q: Do we include KOffice? |
| Strangelv | ...and what are some ways to differentiate it from Exe Linux? |
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| * kb9vqf suggests fixing up exelinux if it's deficient | |
| kb9vqf | or creating a subproject that is based on exelinux |
| kb9vqf | but keeping the two projects linked |
| kb9vqf | to avoid duplication of effort |
| Strangelv | "The goals aren't quite a 100% match. One is to make a LiveCD that's Debian with TDE; the other is to increase the visibility of TDE and possibyl even play a role as a testbed. After all, Knoppix was routinely based on Sid and possibyl still is |
| KingSphinx | I'm still liking the ring of Troppix :P |
| Strangelv | "That sounds like a distribution for surfurs |
| Strangelv | "Q: How many surfurs would want a user environment that's specialized for non-mobile applications that errs on the size of customizability over simplicity and a simple learning curve? |
| Strangelv | "or even surfers |
| Strangelv | :: couldn't spell yesterday, either |
| ar | maybe you meant "sulfurs"? |
| * Strangelv holds up a shrinkwrapped box for Brimstonux | |
| Strangelv | "Give it a customized package manager, etna-get? |
| hazridi | I'm running Exelinux on a notebook, there's really not much wrong with it. |
| hazridi | It's the current version of stable and a not-too-stale build of TDE |
| hazridi | I think the main issue with it is that it isn't branded with TDE on the bootup ;-) |
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| hazridi | I mailed the dev a while ago and he would probably be happy with the publicity of being an upstream for a branded project. |
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| Strangelv | Sounds like we might want to talk with him. 8) |
| * Strangelv doesn't know what the current version of VLC is built on, but he for one always installs it. It blows all other solutinos out of the water | |
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| Vasistha | I'm still on debian lenny, dreading the upgrade to kde4 (after seeing it on a couple other systems). Someone recommended I check out trinity. Is it possibly to basically migrate all my KDE3 settings to trinity? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | all you need to do is move the ~/.kde3 folder to ~/.trinity after installing Trinity |
| kb9vqf | nothing is absolutely guaranteeed, but it should keep most of your settings :) |
| Vasistha | kb9vqf: wow, that sounds really great. thank you so much. |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | if you run into problems or have questions feel free to ask them here or on the mailing list |
| kb9vqf | also it is always a good idea to back up your machine before performing a large upgrade like the KDE3->Trinity move :) |
| Vasistha | I suppose it's worth asking... my biggest problem with any kde app is kmail-- I use offlineimap, and because kmail can't directly access maildir folders without DELETING them and moving them, I have to go through dovecot which always seems really silly |
| Vasistha | yes I will back up! :D |
| kb9vqf | I have never had problems with Kmail on IMAP, but that doesn't mean they don't exist ;-) |
| kb9vqf | If you do experience undesired behaviour like that please file a bug report |
| Vasistha | oh! alright, I'll talk with the offlineimap folks about it. I guess a lot of old KDE bugs which may still exist need to be re-filed huh? |
| kb9vqf | it is possible, but please test Trinity to verify that the bug is still present before refiling :) |
| Vasistha | well yes :) |
| kb9vqf | A lot of old KDE3 bugs have been fixed |
| kb9vqf | but I am sure a lot remain... |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Vasistha | may I ask, is there some kind of meaning behind your nick "kb9vqf"? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | I am an Amateur Radio operator |
| kb9vqf | that is my callsign |
| Vasistha | ah nice |
| Vasistha | my grandfather used to do that. he knew morse code! had a big tower in the backyard |
| kb9vqf | sounds like a nice setup :) |
| Vasistha | yeah. and in his radio room he had all these postcards from around the world, from people he'd met on there |
| kb9vqf | Those are called QSL cards :) |
| kb9vqf | I have a few myself |
| Vasistha | nice! |
| kb9vqf | haven't had much time alone with the radio lately though... :( |
| Vasistha | global communication is possible via other means nowadays :P |
| kb9vqf | yeah |
| kb9vqf | even this channel is home to people from different continents |
| kb9vqf | although it would only take one strong solar flare or some kind of war to disable this means of communication... |
| Vasistha | haha |
| Vasistha | our infrastructure is so fragile! |
| kb9vqf | I know :-P |
| kb9vqf | so there's still a place for the ham radio operators :) |
| kb9vqf | diversity is a good thing |
| Vasistha | yeah, without a doubt. and ham radio is basically impossible to censor |
| kb9vqf | and the middle east shows the importance of that... |
| Vasistha | when the blackberries stop working... :) |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
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| KingSphinx | I'mm pleased, but still surprised that a distro (ExeLinux, I think...?) is actually using Trinity as the primary DE |
| KingSphinx | *I'm |
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| devilman__ | hello |
| devilman__ | i speak spanish, sorry for my bad english |
| devilman__ | trinity it's spanish |
| devilman__ | i think use trinity in debian squeeze |
| devilman__ | in my laptop panasonic toughbook cf 73 |
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| * KingSphinx is thinking of trying Debian out of boredom | |
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| KingSphinx | Would the nightly branch work with Debian Sid? |
| KingSphinx | Or, for that matter, would the regular release branch be okay with Sid or would there be dependency issues? |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: Xu_R: post hurricane my entire basement is still a mess. I am trying to pull my studio together and mu office area back ASAP. |
| MobileTurkey | I am also ordering my laptop Friday which should free up a lot |
| Xu_R | MobileTurkey: :-\ flooded? :( |
| * Xu_R has been busy lately and has not finished trinity specs at all yet | |
| MobileTurkey | I have a lot of work todo. |
| MobileTurkey | let tim know. I gotta split. |
| MobileTurkey | ok? |
| MobileTurkey | you can still catch me on email. |
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| Xu_R | ok |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: I had a chat with the LibreOffice folks just now: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/10 |
| kb9vqf | not sure when I will be able to rebase the patch, but they sound open to including it... |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Xu_R | o. lucky you caught me, I was about to head off :P |
| kb9vqf | it's not too important |
| kb9vqf | just an update :) |
| Xu_R | i'm sure it's a good one ^_^ |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: oh, good. that means it's a lot simplified :D |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | will be nice not to have to fight with LibreOffice each release... :-P |
| Xu_R | :P indeed |
| Xu_R | btw, I'm trying to speed up on packaging - I was planning to have at least the core packages done by mid October, but it looks like I'll have to find more time... |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | that would be good |
| kb9vqf | the code in the nightly builds is now quite stable |
| kb9vqf | so a bit more bug quashing and we will be able to release |
| * Xu_R notes that Ilya threw all the packaging of KDE:KDE3 into question when he said that he didn't build and test locally... | |
| Xu_R | I'm racing against time. :P |
| kb9vqf | !?!?? |
| tbottu | kb9vqf: Error: "?!??" is not a valid command. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Xu_R | ok, I gotta split. early start again tmrw x_x |
| Xu_R | later kb9vqf |
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| kb9vqf | see you around :) |
| KingSphinx | Of all things, I just rediscovered the whole CTRL+ALT+F1-7 trick. Doesn't seem to work properly with Trinity if kdm-kde3 is used as a display manager though. |
| KingSphinx | Also, I can't get sound to go through my USB headset in Trinity, so I'm stuck in Unity for now. >_>; |
| kb9vqf | that's a PulseAudio problem |
| kb9vqf | there is a program to deal with that |
| * kb9vqf is trying to remember the name of i | |
| kb9vqf | http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/padevchooser/ |
| kb9vqf | padevchooser is in the Ubuntu archives |
| kb9vqf | Virtual terminals (CTRL+ALT+F*) do work in Trinity |
| kb9vqf | I use them all the time |
| kb9vqf | might be an Xorg configuration problem on your end |
| KingSphinx | Odd, since AFAIK, I haven't messed with Xorg |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| * kb9vqf really has no idea | |
| KingSphinx | I'll try it again, I guess. |
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| kb9vqf | It works just fine here, and there is nothing in Trinity that is able to disable a core Linux feature like that |
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| KingSphinx | Er, nope, virtual terminals just send me back to a loop of the Plymouth image when I try to go back to the GUI |
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| kb9vqf | that's a Plymouth bug |
| kb9vqf | I don't use Plymouth so I wouldn't have seen it :-P |
| KingSphinx | You enabled verbose booting? |
| kb9vqf | always do |
| KingSphinx | How do you do that? |
| kb9vqf | well, techically I didn't on my laptop |
| kb9vqf | and VTs are not working on it wither |
| kb9vqf | *either |
| * KingSphinx actually rather likes watching the kernel as it boots | |
| kb9vqf | You have to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and remove the quiet argument from the kernel boot line |
| kb9vqf | I think Ubuntu has instructions somewhere :) |
| Qu4Z | KingSphinx: It's funny, because I spent a bunch of effort installing a pretty bootsplash |
| Qu4Z | You use Ubuntu or Fedora or something, yeah? |
| KingSphinx | Ubuntu, used to use Fedora |
| Qu4Z | I just find it ironic that the Ubuntu user goes out of his way to enable watching the kernel output, whereas the Gentoo user goes out of his way to hide it. Maybe we should swap :P |
| KingSphinx | Switched back to Ubuntu after learning about Trinity's trouble with RHEL/Fedora |
| Qu4Z | Trouble? Just compatibility issues, or some sort of policy stuff? |
| KingSphinx | Policy stuff, I believe. RPM packaging policy forbids installation in /opt |
| Qu4Z | Huh. Well, I guess it makes sense for in-tree stuff to stick to other dirs |
| Qu4Z | Can't Trinity install into /usr/<bla>? |
| Qu4Z | I mean, I totally get if that's not a priority to sort out right now. |
| Qu4Z | But I seem to remember there were -DTRINITY_LIB_DIR= options to cmake |
| kb9vqf | you can pick the directory, yes |
| kb9vqf | but only to a point |
| kb9vqf | if you pick /usr/foo/ then you have to add that directory to a number of "standard paths" within the Trinity source |
| kb9vqf | it gets messy fast |
| KingSphinx | Even with the move to TQt, will Trinity still need to install in /opt or will there be a point where it can install in /usr/whatever like any other DE? |
| Qu4Z | Standard paths? So just adding /usr/lib/trinity to LIBRARY_LD_PATH or whatever in startkde won't fix it? |
| Qu4Z | What are the "standard paths" used for? |
| kb9vqf | they are in the source code |
| kb9vqf | they allow the build system to find libraries |
| kb9vqf | Konqueror to find its plugins, etc. |
| Qu4Z | Okay :/ |
| kb9vqf | grep for /opt/trinity in the source tree and you will find where they are :) |
| Qu4Z | Shouldn't that be using environment variables with defaults or something? |
| Qu4Z | Haha, yeah ^^ Not on a computer with Trinity source checked out atm, though :/ |
| kb9vqf | The build system can't rely on environment variables |
| kb9vqf | yes, it should be done differently, but at this point that is a very, very low priority |
| Qu4Z | Oh, right. The build system. Missed that bit, and skipped straight to "konqueror find its plugins" |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, fair enough. |
| kb9vqf | actually I think konqueror will find its plugins anyway |
| kb9vqf | there was some other obscure problem that occurred |
| kb9vqf | I can't remember now :) |
| kb9vqf | I settled on /opt a long time ago and don't really fell up to changing it now |
| Qu4Z | No worries :) I'm not a Fedora user anyway. I was just curious why it was a problem. |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, fair enough. |
| kb9vqf | if others want to send patches I'd be happy to include them :) |
| Qu4Z | I'm chucking everything in /opt, so I won't patch it :P |
| Qu4Z | I let portage-installed stuff live in /usr and friends, manually installed stuff can live in /opt |
| Qu4Z | Not entirely what they're for, but you know what? Doesn't matter. |
| kb9vqf | In all honesty KDE4 should have been forced to rename their apps due to the major functionality difference between KDE3 and KDE4, but that was never an option :-P |
| kb9vqf | a case of "when an "upgrade" is not actually an upgrade, its an entirely different app with the same name" |
| kb9vqf | oh well :) |
| kb9vqf | it just left TDE with an unfortunate problem |
| kb9vqf | work is slowly being done to remove the problem |
| Qu4Z | That's cool :) I appreciate all the work being done. I'll try to help when I can, but at the moment starting Trinity freezes my computer, so... well, then I installed XP for gaming and it overrode my MBR, and I haven't reinstalled grub into it yet. |
| KingSphinx | One of the few things I've noted as a rather notable program missing from Ubuntu since moving from Fedora is bootconf/bootconf-gui. In Fedora, I was able to use that to restore text-mode and Plymouth to my monitor's native res (1280x1024). |
| KingSphinx | Without it, it's stuck at 640x480, rather ugly-looking on my screen. |
| Qu4Z | Eww, that is ugly :/ |
| KingSphinx | Whee, found a scipt that might fix that problem. Just gotta reboot to see if it's fixed. |
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| Strangelv | What if used the de facto naming system for renaming the original applications to distinguish them from the identity-stealing imposters? |
| Strangelv | How about Shiveringmonkey or Singinglion. 8P |
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| Strangelv | Sandwalrus... Grassfish... Basaltfly... Vacuumworm... Asphaltcicada... Featherhornet... Plastictrilobite... Hotmoose... Bedrockbee... Speechflatworm... Eggheadnematode... Gentlenuke... Angrypuppy... Gillhamster... Colorvamp... Arthriticsnake... Volcanotulip... Landlemur... |
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| Strangelv | Any luck? |
| KingSphinx | With Plymouth? Yeah, I got it at the proper res and everything. Bit of a PITA with Ubuntu compared to Fedora, which is really saying something. |
| Strangelv | So this is a problem you're running into with Ubuntu... what file did you change to set the resolutions? Something I ran into trying to install Natty -- even the server version -- was that even in xetx mode it wants to be in a resolution my easily tripped up 17" display can't handle |
| KingSphinx | http://paolobernardi.wordpress.com/2011/05/01/fix-plymouth-on-ubuntu-after-installing-nvidia-or-ati-proprietary-drivers-for-ubuntu-11-04-natty/ <--- That's where I got the fix. |
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| Strangelv | In this case I can't get it to work with the liveCD or after a default install. What is Plymouth? |
| KingSphinx | Plymoputh's pretty much the boot-up screen. |
| KingSphinx | *Plymouth |
| Strangelv | hmm |
| aalecs | plymouth sucks.. :D |
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| Xu_R | PS: Installing in /usr will conflict with kde4. sigh. |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: just wondering, does the core modules still stuck on autotools work with --no-copy-dt-needed-default? |
| kb9vqf | no idea |
| Xu_R | because if not, I'm not going to get very far in packaging |
| Xu_R | because openSUSE has made it default |
| * Xu_R notes that if Ubuntu uses it, then we should be fine | |
| kb9vqf | are you running into problems? |
| kb9vqf | what does that flag do? |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: not yet with cmake. I'm concerned with autotools |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: actually, never mind. seems that Ubuntu is using that linker flag already |
| Xu_R | we're safe. phew. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | please don't give me a heart attack like that again :) |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: Yes, I just went to check ubuntu's linker... |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: sorry :P |
| kb9vqf | np |
| * kb9vqf is sick of xcomposite bugs | |
| Xu_R | :-\ |
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| karl__ | hi, anyone know how to set the language of trinity to german ? |
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| * Xu_R is frustrated - his weekdays are jampacked DX | |
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| -calvino.freenode.net- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: hey just had a talk with Robert |
| MobileTurkey | I have been really busy putting my house back in order but hopefully my workstation area will be up by monday or tuesday(its getting there) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: awesome news about the TDE integration patches though, I am really glad they are very open |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | I just don't have time to rebase the patches right now... |
| MobileTurkey | also I ran into another ODBC problem with Qt3 while compiling |
| MobileTurkey | I won't be able to work it through till i get my desktop up and running |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MobileTurkey | anyway just stopping it. |
| kb9vqf | when you do please fix the GIT :) |
| MobileTurkey | also did you see ilya actually sent in a patch :D |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: yes will do. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, I noticed |
| kb9vqf | a rare occurrence that :) |
| MobileTurkey | it might be related to another qt3 patch i saw about OBDC |
| MobileTurkey | but one that is not to go unnoticed. |
| MobileTurkey | If we encourage it, maybe (s)he will be motivated to be a pal and bring in more! |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | hang on |
| MobileTurkey | ok |
| MobileTurkey | I am going to pull in the patch |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: Ummmm |
| kb9vqf | that is for Amarok |
| kb9vqf | which is NOT IN GIT |
| MobileTurkey | ahhh I just realized that |
| MobileTurkey | when I looked. |
| kb9vqf | I just pushed it into SVN (revision 1251260) |
| MobileTurkey | >_> |
| MobileTurkey | awesome |
| MobileTurkey | either way it's there. |
| kb9vqf | you may want to correct your message :) |
| kb9vqf | lest he think we are a bunch of bumbling buffoons ;-) |
| MobileTurkey | something along those lines |
| MobileTurkey | drunken monkeys with keyboards |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MobileTurkey | I thought you handled the k9copy thing well also, you seem to have a knack for administrative skills relating to legal spects. |
| MobileTurkey | aspects' |
| MobileTurkey | anyway I have to go. I'll try and stop in tomorrow |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Our messages crossed in the Ether... :-/ |
| kb9vqf | I'll let you handle it :) |
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| KingSphinx | I don't *think* it's GNOME-related, but I'll ask anyway: Could my virtual terminal issue in Trinity be related to having Unity installed as well? |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: do you manually update the patches page on the website or does it just sync up to the mirror? |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: ? |
| * Xu_R has been fighting to get this Norton crap off his computer... | |
| kb9vqf | hello |
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| Piki | hi |
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| d33tah | hi |
| d33tah | any qt guru there? |
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| Xu_R | woah |
| Xu_R | did samelian just reply to trinity-devel?! :o |
| Xu_R | so samelian is alive... XD |
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| xispirito | it's true, kde 3 still live? |
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| l0ner | anyone here? |
| xispirito | yeah |
| l0ner | good thing to hear |
| xispirito | =) |
| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| xispirito | !TQT |
| tbottu | xispirito: Error: "TQT" is not a valid command. |
| xispirito | !tqt |
| tbottu | xispirito: Error: "tqt" is not a valid command. |
| xispirito | !help |
| tbottu | xispirito: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
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| MutantTurkey | finally back online. I also got fired for complete bs (they just wanted to kick me out because I started calling their BS). lots of free time now! |
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| Xu_R | damnit. missed calvin by a second. >_> |
| Xu_R | ... or rather, 1 1/2 hours ._." |
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| TokRa | Hello there |
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| MutantTurkey | basement flooded again... |
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| sultan2 | Z_God: Are you a Psi+ user? |
| Z_God | sultan2: yep :) |
| sultan2 | haha |
| sultan2 | I get you many times |
| Z_God | you're also using Psi+? :) |
| Z_God | many time? |
| Z_God | times* |
| sultan2 | On how many channels you are on at the same time? |
| sultan2 | No, I'm using Gajim. |
| sultan2 | I like Psi more |
| sultan2 | But since my interest is to gain more Jabber/XMPP users, I'm using Gajim and reporting on (many) bug |
| Z_God | why do you use Gajim then? |
| sultan2 | ^ |
| sultan2 | Z_God: I get you in many channels (IRC & XMPP) |
| Z_God | I'm only on the psi-dev conference right now |
| sultan2 | Then it's a nice coincidence ;-) |
| Z_God | you have another nick there? :P |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: DX |
| Xu_R | it's been rain this whole week... x_x |
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| sultan2 | Join to http://identi.ca/group/trinity |
| sultan2 | Please open an official account of http://identi.ca/trinitydesktop ;-) |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: ... yeah my whole basement flooded. |
| MutantTurkey | my $100 headphones and my bass amp are basically dead. |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| MutantTurkey | this is just ridic. |
| Xu_R | :| dude... that sucks |
| Xu_R | at least the rain ends this week... |
| MutantTurkey | yeah... |
| MutantTurkey | not super reassuring |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: either way this whole ordeal is a giant pain in the arse. |
| Xu_R | must be. |
| MutantTurkey | like 5-6 times flooded in the past few weeks |
| MutantTurkey | I am just pissed pissed piseed. |
| MutantTurkey | all of my stuff is ruined, my basement soaked, months of headaches from this crap |
| Xu_R | :( |
| MutantTurkey | : |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| MutantTurkey | seriously my entire studio project is in the crapper, my band practice is henceforth on hold |
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| KingSphinx | Well, my computer's managed to scare the poop out of me twice today... -_- |
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| mrdesk | has anyone had problems with kwifimanger? |
| mrdesk | mine doesn't work far as I can figure |
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| kb9vqf | mrdesk: I use knetworkmanager instead |
| kb9vqf | although there is no problem with kwifimanager AFAIK |
| mrdesk | oh i recognize that name |
| mrdesk | can I just apt-get install it or do I have to hunt for it? |
| mrdesk | is the package named knetworkmanager? |
| mrdesk | sweet got it hooah |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: assuming someone wrote the interface for Udisks hell to the API that is planned out, would it even provide all of materials that hal would? |
| MutantTurkey | and they are both accessed through dbus... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 508 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=508 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kickoff menu unstable |
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| MutantTurkey | TIL subwoofers won't work well without their containers. |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay, building qt3 (seems I am the only one who get stuck here :P) |
| MutantTurkey | error cannot find lib qt-mt |
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| MutantTurkey | error cannot find lib qt-mt |
| MutantTurkey | error cannot find lib qt-mt |
| MutantTurkey | it's the qt3 multithreaded |
| MutantTurkey | but I have the -thread flag enabled? |
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| Fat-Zer | hi, what qt paches are curently required to compile trinity from svn? |
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| Fat-Zer | hi, what qt paches are curently required to compile trinity from svn? |
| Xu_R | you should just grab qt3 from the trinitydesktop git if you want the latest ^_^ |
| * Xu_R points to git.trinitydesktop.org | |
| Fat-Zer | trinity git? |
| Fat-Zer | ok... thanks |
| Fat-Zer | is there only qt3 in the git now? or i'm looking on wrong repository? |
| Xu_R | there should be a few things there... |
| Fat-Zer | yes... |
| Fat-Zer | and what's plans? the project is going to completely migrate to git from offitional kde's svn? |
| Fat-Zer | do you know? |
| kb9vqf | yes we are |
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| Fat-Zer | how to create patch if only one version have some files? |
| Fat-Zer | diff -ru qt-x11-free-3.3.8b qt-x11-free-3.3.8d |head |
| Fat-Zer | Only in qt-x11-free-3.3.8d: ChangeLog.immodule |
| Fat-Zer | Only in qt-x11-free-3.3.8d: README.immodule |
| Fat-Zer | ... |
| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: sup doode |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: you sholdn't have to patch it. |
| Fat-Zer | I want to create a patch for the old version of qt... |
| Fat-Zer | it will be easyer to attach it the ebuild... |
| MutantTurkey | you should just use the new version |
| MutantTurkey | it's got a tonn of patcvhes |
| Fat-Zer | omg.... really... at least 8000 lines... |
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| MutantTurkey | yeah... |
| MutantTurkey | just pull from the GIT. |
| Xu_R | gah. I try to access mirrors.kernel.org just when it goes down for maintenance. |
| Xu_R | >_> |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: it's been down for like a week |
| Xu_R | no, mirrors.kernel.org has still been working forme... |
| Xu_R | kernel.org was still working... |
| Xu_R | just a few hours ago kernel.org went to a webpage that said "Maintenance"... |
| MutantTurkey | yeah the mirrors have been down though |
| MutantTurkey | I know this for sure. |
| MutantTurkey | at least having trouble |
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| MutantTu1key | dude I can't even build qt3 |
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| kb9vqf | Maintinence complete |
| kb9vqf | If any problems are noted poke me please :) |
| kb9vqf | *Maintenance |
| NeKit | can't compile Konversation |
| NeKit | http://pastebin.ws/cay8wk |
| NeKit | I don't know where libtool 2.2.6b Debian-2.2.6b-2ubuntu1 did come from at all, as I'm using Gentoo |
| NeKit | deleting libtool in konversation folder and doing ln -s /usr/bin/libtool . helped |
| NeKit | but it's still strange |
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| grand_grunt | Hi :) |
| grand_grunt | I have no access to gopher URLs on Konqueror-trinity, is this not supported or is there something to configure here? |
| grand_grunt | there is no kio-gopher for trinity, answered |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 509 filed by e_r_i_c@gmx.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=509 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, audacious unable to add files to the playlist/ play files |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 510 filed by e_r_i_c@gmx.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=510 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gcdmaster crashes opening files |
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| Xu_R|School | hello world |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 511 filed by dzfixes-box1@yahoo.co.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=511 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine-trinity crashes while tuning dvb-t device |
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| Fat-Zer | hi, what version of libpng is required to compile qt out of git? |
| Fat-Zer | i've got an error: ?struct png_info_struct? has no member named ?trans_values? |
| Fat-Zer | and really there is no such field in that struct in png.h |
| Fat-Zer | ok... found a patch...seems it works |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer:sup? |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Please send the patch to the mailing list :) |
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| Fat-Zer | i'm not sign for maillist... |
| Fat-Zer | it's from gentoo kde3 overlay. |
| Fat-Zer | http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde-sunset.git;a=blob_plain;f=x11-libs/qt-meta/files/qt-3.3.8-libpng14.patch;hb=HEAD |
| Fat-Zer | can somebody write about it in the mailing list? |
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| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Thanks for the link; it has been applied to Qt3 in Trinity GIT |
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| taido_7 | hi everyone :) Does anyone know how to disable a application that auto-starts on boot? |
| taido_7 | i want to disable the "auto-start" of ksmarttray |
| taido_7 | my ~/.kde/Autostart/ folder is empty :) |
| kb9vqf | You will need to create a new Autostart file that sets Hidden=true for the offending application |
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| Fat-Zer | may be somebody have the same trouble? |
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| Fat-Zer | hi |
| Fat-Zer | i'm failed to compile kdelibs from svn |
| Fat-Zer | seems it's becouse config.h created bys cmake doesn't includes while compilation |
| Fat-Zer | any ideas? |
| Fat-Zer | here is my log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/475428/ |
| kb9vqf | what happens if you add a line #include <config.h> to dcop/dcopserver.cpp? |
| Fat-Zer | it works, if i add "-include /path/to/config.h" to the compiller options. |
| Fat-Zer | and call the gcc by my self |
| Fat-Zer | i think it's the same... |
| Fat-Zer | please just write something as i know my client isn't down again =)) |
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| Fat-Zer | seems i've got crappy client... can somebody write my last messages? |
| Fat-Zer | and not only my... |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: around? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | okay I am getting some error from building qt |
| MutantTurkey | let me pastebin |
| kb9vqf | if it's the ODBC stuff I can't help right now |
| kb9vqf | I am unfamiliar with the ODBC cod |
| kb9vqf | *code |
| MutantTurkey | its not odbc |
| MutantTurkey | http://pastebin.com/mVbYz032 |
| kb9vqf | oh great :( |
| kb9vqf | you may need to manually set QTDIR |
| kb9vqf | other than that I don't know |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | something isn't finding the library that was built |
| kb9vqf | I would verify that the library actually WAS built first of all :) |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: and what about kdelibs? |
| Fat-Zer | can somebody reproduce it? |
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| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: It works for me :-/ |
| kb9vqf | If adding the #include <config.h> worked then I'll commit it to SVN |
| Fat-Zer | it works for 1 file... but it should be included into many others... it's not right solution... |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | then there is some other problem on your system |
| kb9vqf | as I don't experience the problem I can't help unfortunately |
| kb9vqf | examine your log files carefully for any problems |
| kb9vqf | and good luck :) |
| kb9vqf | oh, and I would ask on the mailing list |
| kb9vqf | others may have run into something similar already |
| kb9vqf | or at least have some idea of what to look for |
| kb9vqf | I wish I could help further... |
| Fat-Zer | thanks for encorage=) |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: you have got latest tqtinterface? |
| kb9vqf | yes, of course :) |
| kb9vqf | You must use the latest Qt3 and tqtinterface |
| Fat-Zer | yes... i know... |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: looks like it was already built |
| MutantTurkey | in qt3/lib |
| MutantTurkey | so I don't know whats up |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: EVEN WEIRDER |
| MutantTurkey | when I go into the directory (without using the package building scripts) it just builds ok. |
| MutantTurkey | well I didn't do a clean build, but I went in and did make, and it went okay |
| MutantTurkey | oh not true, I lied |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: can you show list of your qt3 includes? |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: What do you want to see exactly? |
| Fat-Zer | a couple of minutes.... i'll check one thing |
| Fat-Zer | ls /path/to/qt3/install/directory/include |
| Fat-Zer | anyway... the rison of mistake: |
| Fat-Zer | includes for qt are installed with command: cp include/*\.h "${D}"/${QTBASE}/include/ |
| Fat-Zer | and in git there is a config.h file |
| Fat-Zer | so it's includes to he project insted of cmake's file... |
| Fat-Zer | [facepalm] |
| Fat-Zer | *the project |
| Fat-Zer | i think this include and some other should be moved to private directory |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: thoughts? |
| kb9vqf | oh, nice |
| kb9vqf | that's why it worked on Debian |
| kb9vqf | good work in tracking it down :) |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Fixed in Trinity GIT |
| kb9vqf | be sure to remove the offending config.h file from your system include directory |
| kb9vqf | let me know if you run into any problems from the patch |
| Fat-Zer | thanks... tracking such things can be a real pain in ass... but after all comes something like a developer orgasm... but it isn't worth of it... |
| Fat-Zer | thanks for fast fixing |
| Fat-Zer | i'll give a note if i fall into some troubles |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: it's building its building! |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| kb9vqf | L) |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | What did you do? |
| MutantTurkey | I just built it without any flags. |
| MutantTurkey | I was using a bunch of flags that David put it, instead i just did ./comfigure -thread -fast |
| MutantTurkey | and it worked |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: now to install, I just do make install DESTDIR=/opt/qt3? |
| kb9vqf | It's been a while |
| kb9vqf | I think that should work |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | also, can I stop it from prompting me? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: doesn't seem to do it. |
| kb9vqf | well, make install works |
| kb9vqf | you may need to set the prefix in ./configure |
| kb9vqf | no, you can't stop it |
| kb9vqf | but you can feed it what it wants to see |
| kb9vqf | see the Debian rules file for Qt3 :) |
| kb9vqf | Actually Debian might patch ./configure to stop the prompting |
| kb9vqf | not sure OTOH |
| MutantTurkey | can't we just make the change upstream? |
| MutantTurkey | I mean I have never seen a project do this |
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| NeKit | will Trinity build under Qt 4.7? |
| MutantTurkey | NeKit: Qt4 migration is underprogress |
| MutantTurkey | you can check the roadmap on the website :) |
| NeKit | no, I mean, some class was removed in 4.7 and building fails |
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| kb9vqf | NeKit: Qt4 work has been suspended pending evaluation of alternatives |
| kb9vqf | I see no compelling reason to use Qt4 at this time |
| kb9vqf | NOTE: I am not saying we will not use Qt4 at all, or in little pieces |
| kb9vqf | First some work has to be done to remove the last TQt3/Qt4 conflicts |
| kb9vqf | and right now the dev team is busy with other tasks |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay, this make install thing isn't working :| |
| kb9vqf | ugh |
| kb9vqf | what is the error? |
| kb9vqf | Also, this may help you some: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=viewblob&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment%20Packaging&h=7874557c862c12b4fd1ffa6d2bc9f694dc00958d&hb=701118f76c13cfa73f1e2c8658d7ffb08bdc63f9&f=ubuntu/maverick/dependencies/qt3/debian/rules |
| MutantTurkey | still nothing |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I looked at the rules |
| NeKit | I'm trying to build Trinity from SVN on Gentoo |
| NeKit | compilation of plastik.cpp and asteroid.cpp fails |
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| MutantTurkey | with what error? |
| NeKit | let me upload the log |
| kb9vqf | My hunch is you don't have the latest Qt3 built and installed... |
| NeKit | hm, where is latest qt3 can be found? |
| NeKit | I just applied trinity patch |
| NeKit | it's not in SVN? |
| MutantTurkey | the git is where we have qt3 |
| MutantTurkey | git.trinitydesktop.org |
| MutantTurkey | it's in main/dependencies/qt3/ |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Can you look into this for me? |
| kb9vqf | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::2988 |
| kb9vqf | I don't really have time right now, but legal stuff has to be done... |
| Xu_R | ok |
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| KingSphinx | Wheeeeee... apparently, if I want to install the current Kubuntu desktop, it wants to remove the kubuntu-default-settings-kde3 package. |
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| KingSphinx | Not that it matters too much, I might have to reinstall Ubuntu 11.04 anyway. Apparently upgrading Trinity to 11.04, then installing ubuntu-desktop is not a great way to get stuff like Ubuntu Software Center, because I have to use sudo aoftware-center in terminal before Software Center will actually install anything. :( |
| KingSphinx | *software-center |
| kb9vqf | Isn't Ubuntu fun? :-P |
| KingSphinx | Yes, very. :P |
| kb9vqf | And yes, the two default-settings packages are incompatible |
| kb9vqf | no way around that really |
| kb9vqf | hence the name "default" settings :) |
| KingSphinx | (there *is* some truth in that statement, it is sort of fun seeing what's wrong and how to fix it.) |
| KingSphinx | Would it hurt to remove default-settings-kde3? |
| kb9vqf | you'll lose a lot of stuff |
| kb9vqf | that is, you will have to reconfigure KDM |
| KingSphinx | ...so it would hurt. |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| KingSphinx | Fun stuff. |
| kb9vqf | it won't permanently break anything |
| kb9vqf | but you would have a lot of reconfiguring to do :) |
| kb9vqf | Honestly I don't care too much about KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | I maintain minimal compatibility...but that's it |
| KingSphinx | KDM doesn't work properly for me anyway, if I try to log into GNOME or Unity with it, all I get is device icons and the GNOME wallpaper. |
| kb9vqf | you need to use the display manager that is specific to your desktop environment |
| kb9vqf | no one follows the standards any more |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| KingSphinx | *rolls eyes* So much for cooperation in the Linux community... |
| KingSphinx | The community can be great, but sometimes they can do things that leave me with a headache >_> |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | and now that everyone is trying to change everything in a head-over-heels attempt to mimic Apple and make your $1000 computer into a $100 smartphone... |
| kb9vqf | well... |
| kb9vqf | breakage is the norm nowadays :( |
| kb9vqf | Trinity is designed in the old workstation fashion, so it may be "hard" to set up but then it is stable and powerful |
| kb9vqf | vs. easy to setup and useless |
| KingSphinx | Hate to say it, but Trinity and KDE4 seem to be one's few hopes for a sane traditional desktop (don't laugh, Plasma's default desktop is nicely laid out IMO) |
| * kb9vqf laughs anyway | |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | Frankly I hate what KDE4 did--it only looks "good" when compared against some of those insane alternatives |
| KingSphinx | Like I've said before, I don't hate the 4 series; I love how extensible Plasma can be. 3.whatever has its uses though, and I appreciate that too. |
| kb9vqf | I'm biased :) |
| kb9vqf | take what I say with a truckload of salt |
| kb9vqf | All I know is that KDE4 is completely unusable for me on my workstations and servers |
| kb9vqf | it reminds me of a poorly designed tinkertoy |
| kb9vqf | but then again, I use the terminal about 30%-50% of the time even in my Trinity sessions, so I may be more of a "power user" than normal :) |
| KingSphinx | Even the insane interfaces like Unity and GNOME 3 (which isn't really "bad", just seems to be following the same "tablet-on-desktop" route everyone's taking now) have their strengths... |
| kb9vqf | Yes, but their weaknesses line up with the work I need to do on a daily basis |
| kb9vqf | They are nice for salespeople, or Grandma, etc. |
| kb9vqf | but not for hardcore engineering or physics work |
| KingSphinx | Yeah, I realize that. For the average Joe who just dawdles on Facebook, Unity's practically foolproof. |
| kb9vqf | Call me old fashioned, but I don't expect to pick up my computer and carry it with me :) |
| kb9vqf | and since I'm chained to a desk when using it I want it to be as powerful as possible |
| KingSphinx | Even on something like a laptop, I'd rather use a more traditional desktop. |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | however when I *do* bring a computer with me I still don't expect to be as productive as at my primary workstation for a variety of reasons |
| kb9vqf | and that is where the other interfaces start to shine |
| kb9vqf | in low productivity situations |
| kb9vqf | I think in most cases you can take the tablet away from the user and have his/her productivity barely affected |
| kb9vqf | unless some heavy duty engineering went into it and he/she is linked up with a larger computer somewhere else |
| kb9vqf | Just my $0.02 :) |
| kb9vqf | frankly the human->tablet interface is going to be suboptimal no matter what UI is running on it |
| KingSphinx | Hmm... I wonder if stuff like the default-settings conflict would still happen once TDE moves to the .trinity namespace rather than .kde3? |
| kb9vqf | just by virtue of the fact that the screen does not fill the entire human retina, and that the input device does not allow for more than a couple of fingers to be in use at once |
| kb9vqf | going back on topic... :) |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | wallpapers |
| kb9vqf | sounds |
| kb9vqf | icons |
| kb9vqf | we are close |
| kb9vqf | but some more stuff has to be moved |
| kb9vqf | and I don't have time to do it :) |
| KingSphinx | You can only work as fast as the amount of people you have that are willing to work... |
| kb9vqf | an hour spent improving KDE4 compatibility is an hour lost in making Trinity better on my end |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | I wish we had more devs |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | there's no glamour here |
| kb9vqf | being a dev for Trinity that is |
| kb9vqf | so people don't help out :( |
| KingSphinx | At the very least, Trinity's a shining example of the nature of open-source software... normally, once a product reaches EOL, it's dead, but you've proved (or "you're proving", whichever's right) that just because a product's been abandoned by its original developer doesn't mean it's dead by any means. |
| kb9vqf | Yes :) |
| kb9vqf | If Windows were open source I'd be doing the same thing to XP |
| kb9vqf | but it isn't and so Microsoft lost my business |
| kb9vqf | their new UIs stink |
| KingSphinx | Much as we'd like to dream, there ain't no way that Windows will go open-source. :P |
| kb9vqf | definitely not worth $100-$200 a pop |
| kb9vqf | yep, I know |
| kb9vqf | I found the next best thing and have been improving it ever since :) |
| kb9vqf | and found out it's better in some areas along the way |
| KingSphinx | If it did, I'd have a very bad feeling that Linux would become even less significant... |
| kb9vqf | very true |
| kb9vqf | on desktop platforms |
| kb9vqf | servers are very entrenched in Linux |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 512 filed by eseesehache@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=512 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Knmap: Missing package |
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| Xu_R|School | kb9vqf: I tried to look into the legal issue |
| kb9vqf | and? |
| Xu_R|School | but I want to wait for the kde4 team to react first |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I suppose that is acceptable |
| Xu_R|School | because they're "violating" too with the same images.... |
| Xu_R|School | furthermore, I can't access the bug report, so I have to see what happens with a limited view. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| KingSphinx | Wait, wha? Legal issues? |
| Xu_R|School | KingSphinx: opensuse's legal team is complaining about some images in kstars |
| Xu_R|School | I'm not really sure their reasoning or such |
| Xu_R|School | but kde4 would also violate that if it were true, so I'm waiting for the opensuse-kde4 team to make their move. |
| Xu_R|School | well, i'm off. period's over. later |
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| KingSphinx | Woke up early enough to do a clean reinstall of Ubuntu... but I went with Kubuntu 11.04 64-bit (yes, I know, I'm a terrible person. Needed a clean system, and wanted to make use of my processor since it *is* 64-bit...) |
| KingSphinx | Oh well, guess I'll wait for the next version of Trinity to get it back. ^^; |
| KingSphinx | So far, everything's running fine, though it does feel a bit odd dual-booting Kubuntu 64 and an old 32-bit Windows install |
| kb9vqf | You can use the nightly builds if you want |
| kb9vqf | that is what I have been recommending |
| kb9vqf | they should be stable enough for daily usage, and if you run into problems then let us know--it is still in development so we'd like to fix them before release |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: is there any recommended distro/version for testing the nightlies? |
| kb9vqf | I use Ubuntu Maverick and Natty |
| Z_God | I think there are also nightlies for lucid? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | and squeeze |
| Z_God | I'll install them on a lucid system I guess then :) |
| kb9vqf | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | let me know how it goes please |
| Z_God | alright! |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: One other thing: If you are upgrading an existing system with -kde3 packages installed |
| kb9vqf | look at this: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/8 |
| kb9vqf | It won't go smoothly yet |
| kb9vqf | New installs are silky smooth :) |
| kb9vqf | The upgrade process should be fixed shortly |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | I guess I need to sign up there? |
| kb9vqf | Oh, it's not public |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| Z_God | pretty much all my systems run trinity indeed, so I probably need to uninstall it yes |
| Z_God | yes, it asks for a login |
| kb9vqf | try it now |
| kb9vqf | The most important part there is the mention of ~/.trinity/share/config/kdebugrc |
| Z_God | same thing |
| kb9vqf | everything else is probably old and no longer applicable |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| Z_God | "Guests are not allowed to join that pad. Please sign in." |
| kb9vqf | ok, try this: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/ep/pad/view/ro.5trB/latest |
| kb9vqf | I'm not opposed to giving out Etherpad accounts, I just wanted the public read only feature to work as well :) |
| Z_God | again, the same error |
| kb9vqf | grr. |
| Z_God | sure, I can be patient :) |
| kb9vqf | OK, just send me your Email address and name and I'll give an account |
| Z_God | ah whatever is the easiest really, I don't mind waiting a bit if you prefer to fix the public feature |
| Z_God | otherwise my e-mail: julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com |
| kb9vqf | I don't know why it isn't working to be honest |
| kb9vqf | Hang on, I'll create an account |
| kb9vqf | Just be sure to back up your system before installing the nightly builds |
| kb9vqf | that installation cannot be undone :) |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: Email sent |
| Z_God | I'll use a test system |
| Z_God | can't I just purge the packages at some point though? |
| kb9vqf | well, yes, but you can't restore the -kde3 packages once they have been migrated to Trinity |
| kb9vqf | unless you do it manually, package by package.... |
| Z_God | ok, it should not be a big problem for me |
| kb9vqf | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | Do you mind writing any problems/solutions on the Etherpad |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | Just add a block of text on the bottom with your upgrade experience :) |
| Z_God | sure, I will |
| kb9vqf | thanks! |
| Z_God | ah the replacing of kde3 packages with trinity packages should be automated? |
| Z_God | I guess that's the hardest part of the upgrade then |
| kb9vqf | it is automated |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: It is (mostly) automated |
| kb9vqf | basically I just need to rebuild the Ubuntu packages to include the automated upgrade |
| Z_God | ok |
| kb9vqf | the core packages have already been rebuilt with the automated upgrade process |
| kb9vqf | but they have not been tested :) |
| Z_God | it seems this system is actually on some nightly version already |
| Z_God | but one from ppa.launchpad.net |
| kb9vqf | yikes, that's old! |
| Z_God | I just took this external HD from my closet & managed to boot it ;) |
| kb9vqf | Trinity used to be hosted on Launchpad way back at the very beginning of the project |
| kb9vqf | I quickly got fed up with interminable build queues |
| Z_God | it's newer than oldstable it seems though |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| Z_God | which is what I run almost everywhere else |
| kb9vqf | I quickly determined that nightly builds on Launchpad just couldn't be done |
| kb9vqf | so that repository was abandoned in favor of QuickBuild |
| Z_God | ok |
| kb9vqf | it's there as legacy only :) |
| Z_God | I guess quickbuild was not also tweaked to work with Konq 3.5? :)) |
| kb9vqf | and because I can't delete a PPA from Launchpad :) |
| kb9vqf | nope |
| kb9vqf | personally I use Firefox and Chrome |
| kb9vqf | two very nice browsers |
| kb9vqf | and leave Konq to what it does best: file browsing |
| kb9vqf | in the true Unix tradition of one program per task :-P |
| Z_God | yep, I have Firefox & Chromium as well |
| Z_God | but Konqueror is not a bad browser |
| Z_God | just the renderer needs an update |
| * kb9vqf would like to see Konq fixed for browsing, but it is infeasible for this release | |
| kb9vqf | I have to migrate off the Qt namespace, then updating KHTML should be possible |
| kb9vqf | we're almost there, but kdebindings and such are blocking it |
| Z_God | I remember there used to be a webkit renderer kpart in suse a long time ago |
| kb9vqf | really! |
| Z_God | it would be cool to have a second kpart with webkit |
| kb9vqf | if you can dig up the link that would offer a running start to updating Konq :) |
| Z_God | yes, but it was really really long ago |
| kb9vqf | hey, a lot of good programs were around a long time ago :) |
| Z_God | I'll look at it, it must have been when suse was still shipping kde3 by default |
| kb9vqf | ok, thanks |
| kb9vqf | it would be much better than starting from scratch... |
| Z_God | it seems a dist-upgrade does not trigger the switch yet from -kde3 to -trinity |
| Z_God | I need to install the kubuntu-default-settings-trinity & kubuntu-desktop-trinity I guess to start the upgrade? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | if the upgrade is not being triggered then there is a problem |
| kb9vqf | what did you add to your /etc/apt/sources.list file? |
| Z_God | the two lines from the ppa on quickbuild |
| Z_God | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds |
| Z_God | I have the entries for lucid |
| kb9vqf | there are two more you need |
| kb9vqf | hang on, grabbing them now |
| kb9vqf | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dependencies/ubuntu maverick main |
| kb9vqf | deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dependencies/ubuntu maverick main |
| kb9vqf | except replace maverick with lucid :) |
| kb9vqf | without those apt can't find the dependencies needed for the upgrade process, so it doesn't do anything |
| Z_God | aha ok |
| Z_God | seems all suse releases till 10 have been taken offline :( |
| Z_God | I'm going to dig through my disks here |
| Z_God | ok, now dist-upgrade does more, but I'm not sure if it's correct |
| Z_God | http://pastebin.com/LL3DzUQa |
| Z_God | it tries to install many new -trinity packages, but also still tries to upgrade many -kde3 packages |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | it will "upgrade" your -kde3 packages to dummy transitional packages |
| kb9vqf | and install the new -trinity packages |
| Z_God | ah of course, that makes sense :) |
| kb9vqf | when the upgrade is done you can remove all the dummy -kde3 packages :) |
| Z_God | but network-manager-kde-kde3 is held back |
| kb9vqf | not sure why |
| kb9vqf | try running the upgrade and seeing what doesn't upgrade |
| kb9vqf | then you can try installing, for example, network-manager-kde-kde3 with apt-get install and it will print out what is holding it back |
| Z_God | ah, there is no installable candidate for network-manager-tde |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | it's there...somewhere.... |
| kb9vqf | hang on |
| kb9vqf | network-manager-kde-trinity |
| kb9vqf | so there is a problem with the upgrade handling package |
| kb9vqf | I'm not surprised :) |
| kb9vqf | are any other packages held back? |
| Z_God | nope, that's the only one |
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| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I'll fix it |
| kb9vqf | but the fixed package won't be available for 24-48 hours |
| kb9vqf | (due to mirror problems the project is currently experiencing) |
| Z_God | ok, let me know if you prefer me to wait with upgrading then or whether I should continue now without this package :) |
| kb9vqf | it's up to you |
| kb9vqf | I don't really care one way or the other |
| Z_God | alright, I'll go ahead then |
| kb9vqf | when the update is published knetworkmanager will automatically upgrade |
| Z_God | ok :) |
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| Z_God | I think I was confused and there was actually a gecko kpart |
| Z_God | I remember it was very unstable at the tme |
| Z_God | would be around kde 3.4 or smth I think |
| Z_God | I'm still searching ... |
| Z_God | ok, now it asks whether I want kdm-kde3 or kdm-trinity as my default dm |
| Z_God | this also seems like a bug |
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| Z_God | seems I found the kpart! |
| Z_God | http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/12107888/dir/redhat_8.x/com/kdebindings-kmozilla-3.0.5a-2.i386.rpm.html |
| Z_God | it's a kpart that provides the gecko engine in konqueror |
| Z_God | but it seems to be for a really old kde version and a really old gecko version .... |
| kb9vqf | works for me |
| kb9vqf | as long as the API didn't change too much we should be set! |
| Z_God | I'll see if i can find the real origin of the source |
| Z_God | btw, the upgrade finished with some errors |
| kb9vqf | not that old I guess: http://blogs.kde.org/node/615?page=1 |
| kb9vqf | which errors? |
| kb9vqf | if it is files overwriting other files then that will be fixed in the future |
| Z_God | http://pastebin.com/6pA4PAt4 |
| Z_God | I'll try installing them individually |
| kb9vqf | yeah, that's the same bug I am aware of |
| kb9vqf | should be fixed in a few day |
| kb9vqf | *days |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | The plot thickens: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kde.redhat.user/3500 |
| Z_God | it seems he refers to this: http://web.archive.org/web/20050404225222/http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/non-kde-apps.html |
| Z_God | not sure if that includes the kpart as well though |
| kb9vqf | doesn't look viable unfortunately: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/16856/kecko.html |
| kb9vqf | My original idea had been to embed an X11 window of some other browser and control it from the kpart :) |
| kb9vqf | webkit would be a good choice |
| kb9vqf | but we need to stop stomping on the Qt namespace first :-P |
| Z_God | http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/3.0.5A/kdebindings/xparts/mozilla/ |
| Z_God | seems it was originally there |
| Z_God | it seems sudo apt-get -f install immediately fixed all the problems btw |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: did you port poppler to the latest TQt interface? is it mostly just changing the names around? |
| kb9vqf | poppler is still maintained upstream |
| kb9vqf | we now provide the TQt interface to it |
| kb9vqf | and yes, everything execpt kdebindings and related programs are TQt ported |
| kb9vqf | *except |
| kb9vqf | On the plus side I think I found the origin of the mysterious KDM click-shutdown-and-hang bug |
| kb9vqf | It happens when no shutdown actions are authorized |
| kb9vqf | for some reason the resultant dialog has 0 size (!??) |
| kb9vqf | working on it :) |
| Z_God | getting an error from KDM now "Cannot open theme file /opt/trinity/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu-trinity" |
| Z_God | and the login screen seems to be window managed itself! |
| Z_God | otherwise it seems to be working great! |
| Z_God | very fast :) |
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| kb9vqf | yep, window management of the login screen is a new feature :) |
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| kb9vqf | you are still running beta packages so there is no GUI option yet to turn it off, but trust me, it can be done |
| kb9vqf | see the kdmrc file |
| kb9vqf | personally I like it window managed--it offers a more unified experience and doesn't leave the user wondering "what's happening now at the blank wallpaper screen" :) |
| Z_God | I normally use autologin, so it I don't care much about that ;) |
| Z_God | yeah, it seems better indeed |
| Z_God | especially when you get an error dialog like I just did ;) |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | I put a lot of work into it...enjoy... |
| kb9vqf | more updates are coming soon BTW |
| kb9vqf | the shutdown menu is being fixed as I type this |
| Z_God | I think it's really good, remembering the awkward unmanaged dialogs from kdm in the past |
| kb9vqf | I've been bringing TDE into the 21st century |
| kb9vqf | it also has SAK support now :) |
| kb9vqf | No other Linux DE has that! |
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| Z_God | it says Konqueror is version 3.5.10 btw |
| Z_God | Trinity is 3.5.13 though |
| kb9vqf | your upgrade may not have been complete |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| kb9vqf | hang on |
| kb9vqf | My Konqueror says the same |
| kb9vqf | don't worry about it |
| Z_God | I saw the SAK notes in the SVN commits, but I wasn't sure what SAK is |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | Secure Attention Key |
| kb9vqf | it prevents login spoofing |
| kb9vqf | which is a serious problem under Linux |
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| kb9vqf | I found a way to force evdev and udev to create a SEAK |
| kb9vqf | my acronym for "Secure Enough Attention Key" :) |
| kb9vqf | unless you are root, there is no way for you to know if the SAK has been pressed |
| kb9vqf | which prevents malicious users from creating a fake login screen and grabbing your passwords |
| kb9vqf | It is very close to a "true" SAK, but done in userspace |
| kb9vqf | I don't know if it works on Lucid though because of the older kernel |
| Z_God | seems good |
| Z_God | but I'm wondering how it deals with remote sessions |
| Z_God | but I never tried pressing "lock screen" on a remote kde |
| kb9vqf | it's still fragile |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I may have tracked it down |
| kb9vqf | tracked what down? |
| MutantTurkey | i think the variable is not DESTDIR but INSTALL_ROOT |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: The issue does not exist on a remote server login, so you can disable the SAK in that environment |
| kb9vqf | Ah, the Qt problem :) |
| kb9vqf | glad to hear it |
| MutantTurkey | I poured over your qt3 rules file, very complex x: |
| MutantTurkey | i think it is working though |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to edit the qt3 file to also accept DESTDIR is that acceptable ? then send it upstream |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: yes, of course, but a single set-up should be able to deal with both practise (at least that was the case at my uni) |
| kb9vqf | yes, I know |
| Z_God | in practise* |
| kb9vqf | as I said it is still fragile |
| kb9vqf | improvements are in progress :) |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | but the fact remains that for many deployments we now have something no other DE has :) |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Yes, that is acceptable |
| MutantTurkey | along with xrandr :) |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 has some bad looking clone I guess |
| kb9vqf | it looks horrid to use |
| kb9vqf | and doesn't work right |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: except that it doesn't seem to work completely yet. the install is only 1.99mb. |
| MutantTurkey | it may have just installed the lib |
| kb9vqf | well, keep working on it :) |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: I think Trinity has a lot of things that no other DE has :D but yeah it seems good such features are added |
| Z_God | I think 3.6 wouldn't be a bad version for the coming release |
| kb9vqf | I never liked the security holes |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: that is the planned eventually |
| kb9vqf | so I've been plugging them up |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: great :) |
| kb9vqf | IMHO 3.6. should be reserved until we have kdebindings working with TQt |
| kb9vqf | once that happens a whole world opens up WRT Qt4 |
| MutantTurkey | honestly Tim, I don't know how you quite manage. frankly you do an amazing job. Programming, adding features, maintaining, updating... |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MutantTurkey | then again you do have quite the setup with those opteron cores :P |
| Z_God | would that allow an app to be developed with Qt4 to integrate with Trinity? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | that's why I want to hold off a but longer |
| kb9vqf | *bit |
| kb9vqf | I also want some serious beta testing of all the changes that went into 3.5.13 |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: beta releases maybe? |
| MutantTurkey | like rc1, rc2, etc |
| kb9vqf | that's what the nightly build repo is now |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: cool :) |
| kb9vqf | though I suppose I could label them :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I dunno, I mean it's sort of a way to get users involved, having actual numbers |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | I am indifferent |
| kb9vqf | It's a good idea from that perspective |
| MutantTurkey | also lets users see new changes and get excited for the release |
| kb9vqf | technically though I would need to think about it |
| kb9vqf | I like the rolling release candidates right now |
| kb9vqf | it allows me to easily push updates in |
| MutantTurkey | I do to (as an arch user this is what I love) |
| MutantTurkey | indeed, fixes are instantanious |
| MutantTurkey | what do you think about having releases often though? I mean like 3.6.1 3.6.2 etc |
| MutantTurkey | as bug fix releases |
| MutantTurkey | or do we want to just shoot upstream |
| kb9vqf | Fast release cycles make bugs more common |
| kb9vqf | and make it much harder to do the kind of large overhaul I just did |
| kb9vqf | WRT TQt |
| Z_God | I just noticed interesting |
| Z_God | when I press the middle mouse button on my desktop |
| kb9vqf | Ever since Firefox switched to their fast cycle the browser has been full of bugs :( |
| Z_God | I get two applications listed that do not have a taskbar button |
| Z_God | both are called Qt-subapplication |
| kb9vqf | oh darn |
| kb9vqf | those are internal to ksmserver |
| kb9vqf | and should not be showing up |
| Z_God | I guessed that last bit ;) |
| kb9vqf | thanks for letting me know |
| Z_God | no problem :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I meant more like libreoffice style |
| MutantTurkey | have 3.6 concurrently in development |
| MutantTurkey | and merging bug fixes back into 3.5 |
| MutantTurkey | for example |
| MutantTurkey | so users will get bug fixes, and then the new release with new features/fixes |
| MutantTurkey | so 3.6.1 would only include bug fixes |
| MutantTurkey | and then 3.7 would be a new release with new featuers |
| MutantTurkey | thats the theory |
| MutantTurkey | anyway... think about it |
| Z_God | I understand there will be two lines anyway at one point with TQt |
| Z_God | one compiled against Qt3 and another maybe compiled against Qt4 |
| Z_God | seems firefox qt builds are still coming out daily btw, but against Qt4: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-linuxqt/ |
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| Z_God | and the gecko kpart is still in the trinity tree? http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebindings/xparts/mozilla/ |
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| Fat-Zer | hi |
| Fat-Zer | maybe somebody knowes, why in kdebase in CMakeList.txt there are lines like "add_subdirectory( tsak )", not something like "tde_conditional_add_subdirectory( BUILD_TSAC tsak )" ? |
| Fat-Zer | is there any special risones for that? |
| Fat-Zer | *reasons |
| Fat-Zer | i'll write about this to the mail list... |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: I looked a bit more into this xparts stuff |
| kb9vqf | for what? |
| Z_God | to see what it was about :) |
| Z_God | it seems it's similar to what you wanted to implement for an alternative kpart |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| Z_God | it allows embedding of any window as a kpart ans somehow sending commands to it |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | It is a nice feature :) |
| Z_God | the kmozillapart does not actually depend on qt build of mozilla |
| * kb9vqf knows more about Xorg than he wants to | |
| Z_God | it actually works with a gtk1.2 build of mozilla |
| kb9vqf | it's actually in our source tree AFAIK |
| kb9vqf | in kdebindings |
| Z_God | yep, indeed |
| kb9vqf | it's just shut off |
| kb9vqf | I should look into reactivating it...a Gecko rendering engine would be a Very Good Thing for Trinity :) |
| Z_God | I managed to compile the xpart & gtk parts without issues with the gtk1.2 headers installed |
| Z_God | that seems to be still intact |
| Z_God | the only issue is that mozilla does not support gtk1 anymore, just gtk2 |
| Z_God | also ubuntu dropped gtk1, so you need to add the hardy universe repository to be able to install gtk1.2 |
| kb9vqf | I wonder what the API changes were |
| kb9vqf | if they aren't too major a forward port would be possible |
| Z_God | yes, I guess it would make sense to add a gtk2 xparts module for gtk2 apps |
| Z_God | and fix kmozillapart to use it |
| Z_God | I was already trying to compile xulrunner with gtk1.2, but I didn't succeed yet |
| kb9vqf | I would need some time though to actually work on it...and time is in short supply right now :( |
| Z_God | yeah I can imagine |
| kb9vqf | But I do appreciate your idea and pointer to the kpart |
| kb9vqf | I had no idea we even had that in our tree :) |
| Z_God | you even made some changes to it ;) |
| Z_God | I guess that was scripted though :) |
| kb9vqf | As part of my semi-automated conversion, yes |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | KDE3 was shedding features for some time apparently |
| kb9vqf | which is sad |
| Z_God | well, at least they are being rediscovered :) |
| kb9vqf | yes :) |
| Z_God | I was already wondering if it would be possible to embed KDE4 kparts easily with something like this |
| Z_God | when you compile the example notepad xpart btw, it generates a normal executable that indeed runs in a simple window when ran |
| Z_God | so I guess that would indeed be the window to be embedded as the kpart then |
| kb9vqf | Once we are off of the Qt namespace then yes, you can do fun stuff like that |
| kb9vqf | until then I am not sure |
| kb9vqf | you could try it :) |
| kb9vqf | actually it might work |
| kb9vqf | but we won't have widget level integration untill we are fully off the Qt namespace |
| kb9vqf | just window level integration |
| Z_God | I don't know anything about Qt |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Z_God | but I guess the first thing needed would be kde4 app that embeds a single kpart |
| kb9vqf | sounds reasonable |
| Z_God | and that's all it does |
| kb9vqf | yrs |
| kb9vqf | *yes |
| kb9vqf | As I mentioned before I'm not too keen on doing anything for/with KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | but I won't oppose someone that does :) |
| Z_God | yeah I wonder what the performance impact would be of something like that |
| kb9vqf | high RAM usage mostly |
| Z_God | and if such a KDE4 app would need to have all kinds of other background processes loaded to be able to work |
| kb9vqf | from loading all that KDE4 bloat |
| kb9vqf | the way KDE4 is designed, most likely |
| Z_God | that's not really an alternative for the current engine then in konq |
| kb9vqf | with a KDE3 app you load XLib, Qt3, and kdecore/kdeui |
| kb9vqf | with KDE4 you load a whole lot more :-P |
| Z_God | hmm ok |
| kb9vqf | it's a design decision (IMHO a terrible one) |
| Z_God | I still run Trinity on systems with 128 MB or 256 MB of RAM |
| Z_God | not regularly, but it seems bad to implement something that would really need more than that |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | personally, having worked with Qt4, I hate it |
| kb9vqf | it is slow, limited, and bloated |
| kb9vqf | given a choice I would not use it at all |
| Z_God | you prefer Qt3 over Qt4? |
| kb9vqf | actually, yes |
| kb9vqf | the only thing Qt4 really gives you is transparency |
| kb9vqf | the only thing is, it's not real transparency :-P |
| kb9vqf | it's a fake Qt-only widget level transparency |
| Z_God | the main Qt4 application I use is Psi |
| kb9vqf | like it? |
| Z_God | it took them some effort to port it from Qt3 to Qt4 |
| Z_God | yep, it seems to be the best Jabber client there is |
| Z_God | it's light & simple |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | as long as you don't try to do anything fancy with Qt4 it's OK |
| kb9vqf | but the more features you add the slower it gets |
| Z_God | I think VirtualBox also uses Qt4 |
| Z_God | and Opera of course |
| kb9vqf | yes, and compared to the Qt3 version it's slow |
| kb9vqf | it feels unresponsive |
| Z_God | I think Opera even had both Qt3 and Qt4 at the same time at some point |
| kb9vqf | there is a piece of engineering software that I use that uses Qt as its base |
| kb9vqf | the Qt3 version is clean and responsive |
| kb9vqf | the Qt4 version is bloated, slow, and buggy |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 513 filed by sh4dou@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=513 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMail crashes on "Include this folder in mail checks" disable |
| Z_God | you think it's only because of the Qt version? |
| kb9vqf | pretty sure :) |
| Z_God | hmm... ok |
| kb9vqf | They try not to change the frontend much between releases |
| Z_God | I saw they were thinking about Qt5 already |
| kb9vqf | ughh |
| kb9vqf | which means KDE5 |
| Z_God | it would seem good to tag on there, at least find out where the performance differences come from |
| kb9vqf | I know where they come from to some extent |
| Z_God | ok? |
| kb9vqf | All that fancy graphics stuff introduces lag |
| kb9vqf | I prefer to keep the graphics stuff actually in the graphics card (!) |
| kb9vqf | with xcomposite and friends |
| Z_God | I'm not sure what things you mean |
| Z_God | to my Qt4 and Qt3 apps pretty much look the same |
| Z_God | me* |
| kb9vqf | In Qt4 there is a backing store and a double buffer |
| Z_God | when you pick a similar theme |
| kb9vqf | both of which have to be updated every time anything changes on the screen |
| kb9vqf | basically Qt4 will slow down anything that involves redrawing a window |
| Z_God | and the advantage is that it allows certain effects? |
| kb9vqf | that means that hiding or showing widgets, clicking on buttons, etc. will be slightly slower in Qt4 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 514 filed by sh4dou@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=514 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, aKregator crashes on jpeg display. |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | doing that allows transparency in particular |
| kb9vqf | without xcomposite |
| kb9vqf | but since we have xcomposite, that continual lag is a price I am not willing to pay |
| Z_God | and there is no trivial way to disable these features in Qt4 I guess? |
| kb9vqf | no, they are embedded deeply |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 515 filed by sh4dou@gmail.com. |
| kb9vqf | that is one of the main selling points actually |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=515 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, aKregator run error |
| Z_God | but I wonder why they wanted this then |
| Z_God | if they could do it though xcomposite as well |
| kb9vqf | Like I said--as long as you only show a few widgets Qt4 is perfecty fine |
| kb9vqf | but use 10, 20, 30 widgets and it is as slow as molasses |
| kb9vqf | because of all those backing store updates :-P |
| kb9vqf | then there is the entirely separate problem of the removal of features |
| kb9vqf | which forces repimplementation of those features in the user's program |
| kb9vqf | *reimplementation |
| Z_God | ok, I guess that's also where the Qt3support stuff came from |
| kb9vqf | and the software developer probably won't take the time to optimize each of those new algorithms :-P |
| kb9vqf | yes |
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| kb9vqf | everything in Qt3Support was lost in Qt4 |
| kb9vqf | which is a sizable set of features :( |
| l0ner | Hi all! |
| Z_God | do you think it would be possible to let Qt5 bring back some of the performance of Qt3? |
| kb9vqf | It's up to Nokia |
| kb9vqf | given their track record they will probably remove even more features :( |
| Z_God | I can imagine things could go different now though |
| kb9vqf | Qt4/Qt5 are really designed for simple apps (as in the apps that belong on a phone) |
| kb9vqf | and not for large software quites |
| kb9vqf | *suite |
| Z_God | you saw the recent news on this new separate Qt community? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | where? |
| Z_God | sec |
| Z_God | http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/09/14/1546226/Nokia-Announces-Qt-Open-Governance-Model |
| kb9vqf | hmm, ok |
| kb9vqf | but that doesn't cover the technical problems in Qt4+ |
| kb9vqf | heck, they can't even do a floating point compare correctly any more :( |
| Z_God | nope, but on the wiki it says this |
| Z_God | The main objectives of the Governance Model are to: |
| Z_God | Put decision power in the hands of the community, i.e. the people who contribute to the Project’s success, |
| Z_God | Make it easy to understand how to get involved and make a difference |
| l0ner | well, qt4 was done by trolltech, now it's nokia |
| kb9vqf | To be blunt I don't have time to handle that |
| kb9vqf | that would be a whole second full-time job |
| l0ner | and whie trolltech target IMHO was PC's, nokia' |
| l0ner | * nokias is not |
| Z_God | yeah I can imagine it would not be so easy to join this |
| kb9vqf | and I would be at odds with them |
| kb9vqf | just as I am at odds with KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | they want multitouch phone interfaces |
| Z_God | but it seems they would appreciate ideas from the community, maybe to add some Qt3 things back to Qt5 |
| kb9vqf | and I want mouse and keyboard stuff :-P |
| l0ner | me too |
| kb9vqf | Hey, if you want to try it go right ahead :) |
| Z_God | yes, I am also clumsy myself with these phones & touchscreens |
| l0ner | but for some things i'd prefer touchscreen, like to read books |
| kb9vqf | Look through the stuff in Qt3Support and try to get it added bac kin |
| Z_God | I wonder if a single Qt could really suit both Trinity & phones at one point |
| kb9vqf | I bet you will run into fierce resistance |
| kb9vqf | NO |
| kb9vqf | not without severe bloat |
| l0ner | yep |
| kb9vqf | yes, touchscreens have their place |
| kb9vqf | Qt4 has its place |
| kb9vqf | bit that place is in MEDIA CONSUMPTION |
| l0ner | true |
| kb9vqf | you will NEVER create new applications, movies, books, etc. on one of those devices |
| kb9vqf | or if you do then the immediate question would be: why didn't you just use pencil and paper? :) |
| kb9vqf | the point is that those touchpads and the apps that run on them are a suboptimal human<-->machine interface |
| kb9vqf | always will be |
| l0ner | it would be a suicide to try doing something like CAD design, or simply draw on a phone/tablet |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| l0ner | i cant draw a straight line on my iTouch... |
| kb9vqf | there is a tradeoff between portability and efficiency of the human/machine interface |
| l0ner | yep |
| kb9vqf | and on those tables the efficiency drops so low that they are only usable for consumption |
| kb9vqf | hey, I should write a paper on this :) |
| kb9vqf | *tablets |
| l0ner | yep |
| Z_God | I never really worked much with these things, but the few times I did, I often had problems because it seems these interfaces hide all kinds of things |
| kb9vqf | it has to |
| Z_God | and I have trouble with the touching |
| l0ner | and tablet/portable with touchscreen which could be used to design/draw costs a lot of money (see dell latitude XT) |
| kb9vqf | when you primary input device (one or two fingers) covers up 1/4 of your primary output device you are guaranteed horrible efficiency |
| Z_God | maybe that's just me being clumsy, but sometimes you have to press the screen quite hard it seems |
| kb9vqf | no different than a mobile telephone that when you talk you can only hear part of the other person's speech |
| kb9vqf | it would make for inefficient and frustrating conversations ;-) |
| l0ner | Z_God: i throw my touchscreen phone out of my car window while driving. I couldn't answer it, since it didn't had keys, I got frustrated, opened window and threw it. |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | sounds like something I would want to do :) |
| Z_God | yeah, for some reason I always imagine people watching porn on a tablet & everything getting out of hand :P |
| l0ner | lol |
| Z_God | l0ner: wow |
| kb9vqf | As far as I am concerned tablets (plural) should augment the PC experience, NOT replace it |
| Z_God | my mobile phones with buttons are hard enough for me to use already |
| kb9vqf | it would be nice to have a small configurable I/O device for things like computer graphics |
| kb9vqf | so you put your palette on it |
| Z_God | my father requires a smartphone for his job, but I cannot work with that |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: is there any howto on porting things from automake to CMake? automake don't see Qt3 on my machine and I need kdemultimedia |
| kb9vqf | it is not easy |
| kb9vqf | I would fix the Qt3 detection problem in Autotools |
| kb9vqf | otherwise you will be waiting years to have Trinity on your machine |
| l0ner | ok, any pointer to what i shold look at? since I never used autotools... |
| kb9vqf | look in your config.log file |
| kb9vqf | there will be a detailed error message |
| l0ner | Z_God: one I had a smartphone that had keys which You could use to manipulate it. It was nice and usable. The modern smartphones with their tendency to remove all the keys are annoying. |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: ok, will look at it now. |
| kb9vqf | humans rely on feedback from touch all the time |
| Z_God | l0ner: the main issue for me is the lack of documentation on the phone itself |
| kb9vqf | there is a reason "touch typing" works so well :) |
| kb9vqf | you can't touch type on a touchscreen |
| l0ner | well, that's the issue too |
| Z_God | I don't like to take a booklet with me when need to write a message or smth and many important things are often hidden behind all kinds of menus |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: true, and try to answer a touch phone while driving... |
| kb9vqf | forget it |
| kb9vqf | unless you are in the market for a new car :) |
| Z_God | sure KDE has/had similar issues with configuration overload but it has become more managable for me |
| l0ner | like i wrote, I got so frustrated one trying to do this, that i threw my phone out of cars window. |
| kb9vqf | One of the biggest problems that I have with KDE4 is that it removes the second and third mouse buttons from the interface |
| kb9vqf | for all practical purposes |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: or a new phone |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | so immediately more clicking is required to do uncommon tasks |
| Z_God | really? |
| kb9vqf | "uncommon" being anything other than "connect me to the internet" or "check facebook" |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| Z_God | seems I did not use KDE4 much... |
| kb9vqf | ever notice the lack of useful context menus under KDE4? |
| Z_God | yes, that I did notice indeed |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: the biggest problem with KDE4 IMHO is akonadi/semantic-desktop/actions(or how the hell they are caling it)/plasma/bloat |
| kb9vqf | that's another large problem |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: The reason they are not there is because touchscreens have one mouse button |
| kb9vqf | I know there is a tap+hold RMB |
| kb9vqf | but it is not practical |
| kb9vqf | and there is absolutely no way to signal MMB |
| Z_God | I thought it was because they were still working on it... |
| kb9vqf | possibly |
| kb9vqf | but it is not a priority to fix |
| l0ner | Kde4 was projected to show-off developers kick-ass programming skills. Unfortunately it don't goes together with usability or user-friendliness of interface and machine-friendliness. |
| Z_God | I haven't used KDE 4 in a while though |
| kb9vqf | It's a different kind of interface |
| Z_God | the last time I checked it, it seems performance was acceptable again |
| kb9vqf | It's designed for phones and touchscreens |
| Z_God | but I haven't bothered to install it on my own system |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: no, it was designed for PC's, and then they changet they mind |
| kb9vqf | Every time someone has tried Trinity after using KDE4 I get comments on how insanely fast Trinity is |
| l0ner | because it's true |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Qt4 was designed for smartphones |
| kb9vqf | so Nokia forced KDE's hand |
| l0ner | possible |
| kb9vqf | KDE didn't put up much resistance though :) |
| l0ner | trinity is fast |
| l0ner | shame on them |
| Z_God | I think many Trolls are part of the KDE team actually |
| kb9vqf | I also think KDE4 defines a "desktop" differently |
| kb9vqf | *"desktop PC" |
| Z_God | but actually I had the same with the switch from KDE 1 to KDE2 |
| kb9vqf | they assume a certain usage pattern that lends itself to touchscreens |
| l0ner | in kde4 you can't truly disable the semantic-desktop. Too much apps are relaying on it. And it keeps running in the backgound eating Ram and CPU cycles |
| Z_God | I found KDE2 to be really really slow compared to KDE1 |
| kb9vqf | KDE 1 and 2 were very feature limited |
| kb9vqf | KDE3 grew into a viable Windows replacement |
| kb9vqf | which says a lot about it |
| l0ner | yep |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 limited the fatures again |
| kb9vqf | *features |
| Z_God | I used both 1 and 2 a lot though |
| kb9vqf | I tried 2 and hated it |
| kb9vqf | back when |
| kb9vqf | bought Windows instead :-P |
| Z_God | it worked better for me than Windows at the time |
| Z_God | but that was Windows 95/98 |
| kb9vqf | Yep, bought NT |
| kb9vqf | i didn't consider KDE3 to be a viable replacement until at least 3.4 |
| l0ner | I once started discussion on the Kde forums about maintaining kde3 as kde-classic for those who had old machines or didn't like plasma |
| kb9vqf | and it got shot down I'm sure |
| Z_God | I still have a Solaris box with 3.0 or 3.1 or smth ;) |
| l0ner | develpoers couldn't understand how You could not like plasma |
| kb9vqf | I nearly got blasted full of holes for suggesting that :) |
| l0ner | they told one user that he was using plasma incorrectely |
| Z_God | yes, I was surprised as well that Trinity was never mentioned on The Dot |
| kb9vqf | They took a page from Microsoft I guess |
| kb9vqf | Did you know it is illegal to change the look of the Windows 7 login screen? |
| l0ner | wut? |
| kb9vqf | unless you pay them $$$$ to do it for you? |
| kb9vqf | it's true |
| l0ner | oh god... |
| kb9vqf | you can only change the wallpaper |
| Z_God | because I think it only shows the greatness of the whole KDE code that people are still on the older 3.5 series as well |
| l0ner | that is why i hate m$ |
| kb9vqf | Yes, and KDE4 is trying the same garbage |
| kb9vqf | "if you don't use Plasma the way we tell you to then you shouldn't use KDE" |
| l0ner | yep, it's what they wrote in that discussion |
| kb9vqf | Personally I like the project the way it is--we have full control over the base libraries, tremendous flexibility to try things that other DEs haven't done (SAK anyone?) |
| l0ner | SAK? |
| kb9vqf | Secure Attention Key |
| kb9vqf | there are other features as well |
| kb9vqf | that's the most recent |
| Z_God | I just signed up at the Qt issue tracker |
| Z_God | because the page says you can put feature suggestions there |
| Z_God | I'm about to create an issue describing the performance issue from earlier |
| Z_God | and maybe also mention qt3support |
| kb9vqf | well, don't bother with the perfomance problem until you have a test case |
| kb9vqf | they love to close bugs without test cases |
| kb9vqf | and that would just make us look stupid |
| Z_God | what do you think would be a good test case? |
| kb9vqf | bit you can complain about the missing features, that would be a good start :) |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: Someone would have to write a graphically complex program |
| kb9vqf | that uses only features that are common to both Qt3 and Qt4 |
| kb9vqf | so something that uses lots of toolbars, etc. |
| Z_God | but I think it's important to focus on the things that would suit Trinity :) |
| Z_God | hmm |
| kb9vqf | (it doesn't have to actually DO anything other than maybe pop up message boxes and stuff) |
| Z_God | do you think it would be managable to create a test case based on TQt? |
| kb9vqf | That would be rejected out of hand |
| Z_God | ok |
| kb9vqf | they would try to claim the performance loss is in TQt |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: oh, i forgot. About including volume control for each app in arts/kmix: I looked at arts and pulse documentation and arts is actually a mixer. It takes audio streams form kde apps and mixes it to one stream. If there is a pluseaudio running it takes this stream and mixes it whit other streams it gets, and then sends everything to alsa. Volume control for each app would need some arts codin |
| kb9vqf | oh, cool :) |
| Z_God | but TQt is just abstracting right? |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: I don't see any performance loss |
| kb9vqf | I know, but it is something that they would point to |
| kb9vqf | We want to make it hard for them to reject the bug |
| Z_God | so they could suggest a way to change the code to improve the performance in Qt4 |
| kb9vqf | that involves a full rewrite |
| kb9vqf | and loss of features |
| kb9vqf | a.k.a KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | that's the way they want the applications to be |
| Z_God | hmm ok |
| kb9vqf | like KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | in other words, graphically simple and featureless :-P |
| kb9vqf | then you won't notice much of a difference ;-) |
| kb9vqf | KDE3 actually accelerates a lot of stuff with tricks like inline assembly and direct Xlib access |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: anyway i think that it should work like this or you use plasma, or you use arts. Not both. using two mixers will cause problems. They will fight for alsa access and app streams. Thats why there were so many issues with pulse in ubuntu. |
| kb9vqf | in theory it shouldn't cause problems |
| kb9vqf | but who knows |
| Z_God | l0ner: arts can use the ALSA API and I think pulse provides support for that API as far as I know |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 is so fragile in some repects |
| kb9vqf | *respects |
| Z_God | would it be hard to write a testcase with almost the same source code for qt3 and qt4? |
| l0ner | Z_God: yep, but in default pulse detects arts and handles it like a normal app |
| Z_God | ah you want arts to be special? |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: I don't have time to chase after Nokia right now :) |
| Z_God | I guess it would involve writing a pulse output for arts |
| kb9vqf | If you want to, you can probably throw something together that creates lots of widgets on the screen and show the performance loss that way |
| Z_God | ok, I will look into that... |
| kb9vqf | All my experience has been with third party apps or with apps translated via TQt |
| Z_God | I am kind of clueless on graphics performance testing though |
| kb9vqf | Well, I noticed a distinctly different "feel" |
| kb9vqf | not sure how to quantify it |
| kb9vqf | other than maybe with a timer that fires on XLib button press |
| kb9vqf | XLib-detected button press that is |
| kb9vqf | and stops when the new widget is shown on-screen |
| kb9vqf | That alone should show a pretty good performance loss |
| Z_God | seems good |
| kb9vqf | maybe they fixed Qt4.7 a bit, but somehow I doubt it :) |
| l0ner | Z_God: what i really want is a standarization. So what I really like to see is kde apps outputting their audio directly to pulse, without relaing on arts, but for this to happen will be needed much programming. |
| Z_God | seems there is QtBenchLib |
| kb9vqf | I'd want the timing done OUTSIDE Qt |
| kb9vqf | because I have no idea if the loss is also due to late Xorg event handling |
| kb9vqf | also, it should be tried on multiple graphics devices |
| Z_God | l0ner: ok, I never used pulse so I'm not sure about the advantages |
| kb9vqf | Really I should probably be the one putting it together because I know how Qt and Xorg work, but I just don't have the time... ( |
| kb9vqf | :( |
| kb9vqf | Let's see how opposed they are to adding in Qt3 functions again |
| kb9vqf | that is another make/break deal |
| Z_God | but I understood a Qt4 port was planned for Trinity? |
| kb9vqf | It's there, but performance is so dismal that I stopped |
| kb9vqf | Also donations are down, etc. so time is limited |
| Z_God | I guess such performance testing would be critical for something like this to evolve |
| l0ner | Z_God: apart form standariztion, things like volume control for each app, accurate latency measuring and other things that user probably wouldn't notice |
| kb9vqf | and then Qt was breaking simple things |
| kb9vqf | basically Qt4 is too much of a shifting unstable buggy slow target to warrant Qt4 support right nowo |
| kb9vqf | *now |
| kb9vqf | Especially since we have control of Qt3 now :0 |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Z_God | it seems that Qt4 performance did improve significantly over time |
| kb9vqf | It's still not up to par with Qt3 |
| kb9vqf | and never will be due to the extra graphics ops |
| kb9vqf | I guess the question should be this: Why do you want to see Trinity on Qt4? |
| kb9vqf | What are we missing that Qt4 has? |
| Z_God | developer API |
| Z_God | Qt3 is probably not a popular development environment anymore ... |
| Z_God | I wonder now though, what the Opera people think of all this stuff, since they were always really concerned about performance as well |
| kb9vqf | I consider the API to be oversimplified |
| kb9vqf | the Qt4 API that is |
| kb9vqf | so that would not be a concern for mw |
| kb9vqf | *me |
| kb9vqf | We have API docs |
| kb9vqf | so...anything else? |
| Z_God | then it would be just developers ;) |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | but while this touchscreen craze is active developers for "traditional" desktops will be limited |
| Z_God | I'm thinking now about porting a Qt4 demo back to Qt3 |
| kb9vqf | good idea |
| kb9vqf | Qt3 has a superset of most Qt4 features |
| Z_God | if it would show that that would improve performance, I think it would be a perfect test case :) |
| kb9vqf | I'd be interested in the results |
| kb9vqf | My testing is about a year old |
| kb9vqf | and since we have control of the Qt3 API we could theoretically add any usefull new Qt4 functions to Qt3 :) |
| Z_God | how did you test? with the trinity compilation? |
| kb9vqf | With pure Qt apps |
| kb9vqf | I compared the old and new engineering software I mentioned, VirtualBox, and the Octave GUI |
| Z_God | ah ok |
| kb9vqf | all seemed much slower under Qt4 |
| kb9vqf | to the point where I was getting frustrated |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: is there a way to tell the autotools where qt3 is? my qt4 installation gets it the way of kdemultimedia ./configure |
| kb9vqf | there is |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: how? |
| kb9vqf | I was grabbing it :) |
| kb9vqf | --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 |
| l0ner | ok, thx ;) |
| kb9vqf | np |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: I have no idea how to fix this... http://paste.pocoo.org/show/477690/ |
| kb9vqf | It's detecting your Qt4 development library installation |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | I don't think there's an override for that either |
| l0ner | damn... I'll try to remove qt4 |
| l0ner | it will be pain in my ass... |
| kb9vqf | you only need to remove the development headers |
| kb9vqf | not all of Qt4 |
| l0ner | there is no separation betweeen qt4 and 1t4-dev in gentoo |
| l0ner | since in order to install qt4 you need to compile it |
| l0ner | *qt4-dev |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Hang on |
| l0ner | ok |
| kb9vqf | you can edit the admin/acinclude.m4.in file if you want |
| kb9vqf | grrr, firefox hung up |
| kb9vqf | basically if you change one line in that file you can bypass the Qt4 detection |
| kb9vqf | Line 1246 |
| kb9vqf | change |
| kb9vqf | kde_qtver=4 |
| kb9vqf | to |
| kb9vqf | kde_qtver=3 |
| l0ner | ok |
| kb9vqf | then rerun |
| kb9vqf | make -f admin/Makefile.cvs |
| kb9vqf | IIRC |
| Z_God | I'm trying to find a suitable demo for testing |
| kb9vqf | make -f admin/Makefile.common |
| kb9vqf | sorry |
| Z_God | I must say that everything in all the demos responds and appears instantly here |
| kb9vqf | are they simple? |
| kb9vqf | like one or two widgets? |
| kb9vqf | and are they interactive? |
| Z_God | I found one which is a dialog full of widgets |
| kb9vqf | link? |
| kb9vqf | ah, maybe I wasn't clear :) |
| kb9vqf | top level widgets |
| kb9vqf | not embedded widgets |
| kb9vqf | so things like subwindows |
| Z_God | if you're on ubuntu there is a package which installs all the demos with binaries |
| kb9vqf | or widgets stacked on other widgets that are not the parent widget |
| kb9vqf | which graphics card are you using as well? |
| Z_God | Intel X4500HD |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | well, there shoudn't be a bias then :) |
| Z_God | I have other comps as well ;) |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: It did not work, same error. |
| kb9vqf | in the output does it say Detected TQt3 or Detected TQT4? |
| l0ner | TQT4 |
| kb9vqf | grr |
| kb9vqf | you reran automake and autoconf? |
| l0ner | yep |
| kb9vqf | something didn't work |
| l0ner | aw, damn |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| l0ner | didn't save file |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | that would explain it! |
| l0ner | yep ;) |
| l0ner | i tend to forget about saving when i'm using vim |
| l0ner | or, rather, i try to do it using ctrl-s |
| l0ner | instead of :s |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: I don't think any of those examples are going to show the problem |
| l0ner | *:w |
| kb9vqf | They are too simple |
| Z_God | ok |
| kb9vqf | what you need is a nice complicated MDI app |
| Z_God | I think testcases should be simple though |
| Z_God | so maybe something repetitive |
| kb9vqf | let me put it another way: if you are losing 100us on each Xorg operation, and there are a handful of operations, you won't see the difference |
| kb9vqf | but the computer *may* be able to detect it |
| kb9vqf | now try drawing a complex window when the computer is already under load |
| kb9vqf | maybe thousands of operations |
| kb9vqf | and there will all the sudden be a noticable difference |
| kb9vqf | just a huch |
| kb9vqf | *hunch |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | I think on my other system it would show up quicker |
| Z_God | it has a sis chip or smth |
| kb9vqf | :S |
| kb9vqf | I would concentrate on timing basic Xorg operations |
| Z_God | there's not even any 3d hardware acceleration |
| kb9vqf | so time how long it takes to process a button click |
| kb9vqf | or how long it takes to show() a window |
| kb9vqf | I bet there is a difference |
| kb9vqf | just because I have seen the bowels of the Qt3 and Qt4 code ;-) |
| Z_God | would that already work on a demo app? |
| kb9vqf | Yes, just get the Xlib timing stuff in place |
| kb9vqf | basically you have to filter XLib events |
| kb9vqf | to detect the button press |
| kb9vqf | start a system timer |
| kb9vqf | then stop the timer from within the Qt event handler |
| kb9vqf | and print the result |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: bawwwwww... more errors: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/477699/ |
| kb9vqf | it doesn't know where to find your Qt3 library |
| Z_God | no idea how to work with these events, I need to find some docs |
| kb9vqf | I don't know if this will work but you can try --with-extra-libs= |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: I know, they are not that easy to work with unfortunately |
| l0ner | ok, will try |
| l0ner | the same |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: --with-qt-libraries=DIR |
| l0ner | it worked, thx |
| kb9vqf | np |
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| Z_God | so there is also qt-compositor.... |
| Z_God | which I would assume would be related to operations that could be done with xcomposite |
| Z_God | ah it's not for x11 |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: now it don't see tqt, nor trinity... http://paste.pocoo.org/show/477707/ |
| kb9vqf | now use the --with-extra-libs=DIR option to point to your Trinity library directory |
| l0ner | already did |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Where did you stuff your Trinity libraries? |
| l0ner | well, I was using everyting form the wiki |
| l0ner | without changes |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: /opt/trinity/lib |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| kb9vqf | This might be unrelated but you also need to pass --with-qt-includes=DIR to ./configure |
| kb9vqf | as it cannot find your Qt includes right now |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | nothing changes |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: no idea of this is really related, but I just came across this: http://kjellkod.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/moving-to-qt5-will-that-remove-qts-performance-issues-on-linux/ |
| Z_God | if* |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: I have no idea |
| kb9vqf | it works here |
| kb9vqf | look through the Debian rules files on GIT |
| kb9vqf | see if something is missing |
| l0ner | i'm thinking on dropping gentoo |
| l0ner | i'm getting feeling it's a mess right now |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: So I'm not crazy then :) |
| kb9vqf | Others have noticed it |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: which distros are you supporting apart form debian/ubuntu? |
| kb9vqf | I say Nokia can keep their bloated slow mess :) |
| Z_God | yep, I'm googling a bit and I'm finding multiple posts about this |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Weel, I have someone working on RedHat |
| Z_God | even came across a blog post from a KDE dev complaining on Qt4 speed VS Qt3 |
| kb9vqf | slackware might be available |
| l0ner | i have bad memories with slack |
| l0ner | arch? |
| kb9vqf | I just don't have time to fight with Gentoo |
| Z_God | but I wonder what that graphicssystem raster is about |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: A hack for one graphics chip only |
| l0ner | to be honest, nor me |
| kb9vqf | If you want it to work out of the box with minimal hassle try Ubuntu or Debian |
| kb9vqf | Anything else and you are getting another person or team involved |
| l0ner | I know, but I don't like both of them, ubuntu is too bloated for me, forcing me to do things i don't want to do, and debian removes software i use from repo because it's "philosophically |
| l0ner | " bad |
| Z_God | l0ner: what kind of software do you miss? |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: just read that one of the objectives of Qt5 is to make better use of the GPU |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: I'll believe it when I see it |
| l0ner | firefox, some things i need for mu uni.... I don't remember right now, but there was some... |
| kb9vqf | I have been completely unimpressed with Nokia's treatment of Qt |
| kb9vqf | Yeah, stay away from Debian then |
| kb9vqf | But if you use Gentoo then you need to be able to debug things yourself ;-) |
| Z_God | l0ner: iceweasel is firefox+debian patches |
| Z_God | the reason they do not ship it as firefox is because the Mozilla people didn't want the Debian people to include their own patches and still use the Firefox name |
| l0ner | I know, yet I dont know why but i don't like it |
| Z_God | but the Debian people want to be able to patch things themselves, it's kind of the point of having the source I'd say as well |
| l0ner | well, the firefox wasn't the biggest issue. There were other reasons wich I don't remember now |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: in case you happen to be interested, this GPU thing is mentioned here: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/05/09/thoughts-about-qt-5/ |
| kb9vqf | Yeah, and in the same article it sounds like they are getting rid of more stuff |
| kb9vqf | My instinct tells me that will be more of the "useless" traditional desktop oriented code |
| Z_God | I see |
| kb9vqf | I would love to be proven wrong |
| Z_God | so then a decent feature suggestion would be indeed about qt3support |
| Z_God | because it seems at least they are aware they should use the GPU more |
| kb9vqf | and they would probably reject it for the these reasons: |
| kb9vqf | 1.) It makes the API more complicated (and our poor baby developers can't handle that) |
| kb9vqf | 2.) It hurts performance in unspecified ways (i.e. we don't know how to add features and keep performance) |
| kb9vqf | 3.) There's no need for the features (since most mobile phone apps have a few buttons (to pay with) and a video output widget) |
| kb9vqf | /sarcasm |
| Z_God | it seems their main objective is indeed one API to program for multiple platforms |
| l0ner | ok guys, I'm going to sleep |
| Z_God | so someone we need to convince that Qt should also stay focussed on the advanced desktop segment of apps |
| Z_God | which do not require mobile versions |
| l0ner | and tommorow I will try installing TDE on Arch |
| l0ner | cya |
| Z_God | but do require an extensive API |
| kb9vqf | ok, see ya :) |
| Z_God | l0ner: good night! |
| l0ner | thx ;) |
| kb9vqf | that would only happen when Nokia gets its fingers off of Qt completely |
| kb9vqf | and if someone takes over who believes the traditional desktop is here to stay |
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| kb9vqf | according to the tech news, I don't think that will happen |
| Z_God | yes, but I'm trying to come up with a decent writing for a feature request now :) |
| kb9vqf | everyone thinks the traditional desktop is dead |
| Z_God | just interested in seeing how it will be handled |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| kb9vqf | I wish you luck |
| Z_God | I would say your point about content creation is valid |
| kb9vqf | they have been less than nice to me and others about adding "old stuff" back in |
| Z_God | and I think Qt was also used for such applications |
| kb9vqf | content creation is rapidly headed for control of a very few individuals who can pay through the nose for the tools to do it :( |
| kb9vqf | scary thought :(( |
| Z_God | I don't know, I see more & better free video & image as well |
| kb9vqf | yes, but not from tables |
| kb9vqf | *tablets |
| kb9vqf | and not from people using desktops that run tablet-oriented software |
| Z_God | oops, I forget the word 'editors' |
| kb9vqf | ah, yes :) |
| kb9vqf | I agree there |
| Z_God | I mean software like The Gimp and kdenlive |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | they are nice |
| kb9vqf | though OpenShot runs circles around its KDE4 equivalent |
| kb9vqf | but I dare you to compare 3ds max 7, for instance, to the best "modern" application available |
| kb9vqf | there is light years of difference there |
| kb9vqf | or 3ds max 9 |
| Z_God | I don't know anything about those things |
| kb9vqf | or anything from the high-end professional end :) |
| kb9vqf | *side |
| Z_God | I guess the differences may be increasing, but it doesn't mean free content creation is not evolving as well |
| kb9vqf | It is becoming harder to create quality content without paying a LOT of money for the tools |
| kb9vqf | it used to be that you could just buy the one package |
| kb9vqf | now you have to buy the package, the desktop operating system (which is now considered "professional" and comes with an inflated price tag), the desktop computer (same applies), etc. |
| Z_God | which component should I pick if I'd write a suggestion as above? |
| kb9vqf | no idea |
| Z_God | I don't really know what kind of classes were in qt3support actually ;) |
| Z_God | there is widgets |
| kb9vqf | I would poke around a bit honestly |
| kb9vqf | in Qt3Suport |
| kb9vqf | the stuff I miss most are iin the painting classes |
| * kb9vqf can't type :-P | |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| Z_God | I'm looking through the list now |
| Z_God | indeed typical desktop things |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | I don't make this stuff up :) |
| kb9vqf | though sometimes I wish I was.... :( |
| Z_God | ah there is a porting from Qt3 to Qt4 component :) |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | and there are a lot of missing features there |
| kb9vqf | look at all the places it says "rewrite your code to use this and such" |
| kb9vqf | but what is suggests is not actually an equivalent feature |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | I wrote a piece |
| Z_God | I'll show it before I submit it |
| Z_God | http://pastebin.com/L8mY8Ek2 |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: you think this is indeed the essence of the issue? you think you could give some examples of things that are really lacking in Qt4 now? |
| kb9vqf | Might work |
| kb9vqf | let's see what they say |
| kb9vqf | I think they will claim "our API is good enough" |
| kb9vqf | as I said I don't have time to chase Nokia down and make them add stuff to Qt |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Z_God | you think I should name a couple of APIs from Qt3 that you are really missing now in Qt4? |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| kb9vqf | more evidence always helps |
| Z_God | do you have a couple in your mind? :) |
| kb9vqf | not really |
| kb9vqf | it's more like being pecked to death by ducks |
| Z_God | I could also write something like |
| kb9vqf | e.g. the painting class is missing a lot of weird stuff that Qt3 hadd |
| kb9vqf | *had |
| Z_God | especially many APIs from the painting class in Qt3 would be very useful to see again in Qt5 |
| kb9vqf | And even then, TQt took care of a lot of the translation |
| kb9vqf | but the result was slow as molasses because of their graphics problems |
| Z_God | I see |
| kb9vqf | I know my biases are showing all over the place today :) |
| kb9vqf | but I truly consider Qt4 to be completely not worth the effort to fix |
| kb9vqf | it doesn't gain us anything |
| kb9vqf | except maybe Webkit, but that could be included elsewhere |
| kb9vqf | and besides if a Gecko engine is viable I would rather use that |
| Z_God | hehe |
| Z_God | did you see this? |
| Z_God | http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2008/02/04/qt-44-and-painting-performance/ |
| Z_God | it seems even at nokia they can describe slow qt stuff in all kinds of ways |
| kb9vqf | oohh, nasty |
| kb9vqf | you did see their "solution", right? |
| kb9vqf | Qt doesn't us Xorg windows any more!!!! |
| kb9vqf | that means there is no way to bypass Qt and do nasty (I mean fast) things to to the windows |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| kb9vqf | more limitations to hack around their limitations |
| kb9vqf | grrrr |
| Z_God | that seems nasty yeah |
| Z_God | I suppose it's X11 windows though? |
| kb9vqf | their alien hack is for X11 |
| Z_God | btw. I look at QPainter and Q3Painter |
| kb9vqf | but it basically decouples Qt from X11 |
| Z_God | but the first is much bigger |
| kb9vqf | the API you mean? |
| Z_God | yes |
| kb9vqf | yes, but for being bigger it doesn't have equivalent features from Qt3 :-P |
| kb9vqf | IIRC it is actually harder to do things like handle polygon drawing in Qt4 |
| Z_God | there's a drawPolygon though |
| kb9vqf | I know |
| kb9vqf | I can't come up with examples OTOH |
| kb9vqf | All I remember is that there were missing things in Qt4 painting |
| kb9vqf | or things that were much harder to do |
| kb9vqf | native X11 painting in particular stunk |
| Z_God | they are also missing in Qt3Support? |
| kb9vqf | Qt3support is dead |
| kb9vqf | it won't be available in Qt5 |
| Z_God | I guess it wouldn't allow X11 painting at all then? |
| kb9vqf | probably not |
| kb9vqf | which == slow |
| kb9vqf | in many cases :) |
| Z_God | yep, but Q3Painter is a wrapper around QPainter it says |
| kb9vqf | Sometime you should take a look at an intensive chunk of the Trinity source |
| Z_God | so that would mean that code based on Q3Painter could be made to work with QPainter by looking at how the wrapper works |
| kb9vqf | then try to match up required features with Qt4 |
| kb9vqf | trust me, you'll get a headache fast |
| Z_God | but I think the direct X11 support is a good one |
| Z_God | because I already wrote about high performance |
| kb9vqf | Guess how I did TQt for Qt4 ;-) |
| kb9vqf | And like I mentioned earlier, it works but it's slow |
| kb9vqf | and buggy |
| kb9vqf | very buggy |
| kb9vqf | the native X11 stuff is completely broken |
| kb9vqf | and now I know why :-P |
| Z_God | now I added this sentence |
| Z_God | Especially features like directly working with the X11 window, which is needed for high performance desktop applications would make Qt more suitable again for the second category of applications. |
| Z_God | https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-21503 |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: just for testing, I installed an old copy of SuSE 8.0 (KDE 3.0.0) to see how the kmozillapart worked with it |
| Z_God | here is a screenshot: http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2qNW_UqKE8I/TnX64bVco6I/AAAAAAAAAds/YP3wlbg--mk/s576/konqueror_using_gecko.png |
| Z_God | the main noticable thing is the scolling bar on the right side, which is the XUL one from the modern Mozilla theme |
| Z_God | if it would be somehow useful to get more info or maybe a copy of the VM, I ready to help |
| Z_God | am^ |
| kb9vqf | Cool! |
| kb9vqf | At this point the main task would be to forward-port the kpart to gtk2 |
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| Z_God | at first sight, this appears to be trivial |
| Z_God | by commenting only a few lines, I got it to compile against gtk2 |
| jentron | does trinity work on debian sid? |
| Z_God | jentron: should work fine |
| jentron | OK, thanks. I guess the question should include, are there packages, or do I have to build my own? |
| Z_God | this is never fully tested, but in general debian (and also ubuntu) keep compatibility with packages for older versions |
| Z_God | sometimes you just need to add the repository of the older version as well when some packages have been removed |
| Z_God | but then apt will just solve the dependency issues & install it all |
| Z_God | so the package for the most recent debian version will probably work the best on sid |
| jentron | Alright. I'll experiment with it, then. I just installed 4.6 for the first time on a system I built... I don't like it at all. |
| Z_God | good luck, if you enjoyed KDE 3, you will also enjoy Trinity :) |
| jentron | Hope so. :) |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: I think I fixed everything to allow it to work with gtk2 |
| kb9vqf | really? |
| kb9vqf | cool! |
| Z_God | there were 2 offending things |
| kb9vqf | does it work then on modernr Trinity versions? |
| Z_God | and in the gtk porting guide I read how to replace those |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Z_God | so now it compiles |
| kb9vqf | great :) |
| kb9vqf | can you send in a patch if it works? |
| Z_God | I have no idea about build systems and so on |
| Z_God | so I edited the Makefile for now to include the right include paths |
| kb9vqf | that's fine |
| kb9vqf | send me the patch and I'll fix the bulid system |
| kb9vqf | *build |
| kb9vqf | if it works of course :) |
| Z_God | I think it needs to use the pkgconfig infrastructure or smth like that to find the paths |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | most of that is already in place and I can handle that end of things |
| Z_God | I will look at kmozillapart now & see how it'll go |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | sounds good! |
| kb9vqf | btw don't worry about the scrollbars |
| kb9vqf | I have an idea of how to fix those |
| Z_God | I have no idea how this is working with the newer Mozilla stuff |
| Z_God | I suppose I have to compile against xulrunner now |
| Z_God | the version on SuSE ran either against Netscape 6 or Mozilla 0.9.8, so I can imagine things changed on that side as well.... |
| kb9vqf | yes, most likely |
| kb9vqf | so I guess hold off on sending a patch until you can fix the entire kpart |
| kb9vqf | if it works well it will probably gain you an honorable mention in the release notes :) |
| kb9vqf | I get KHTML complaints all the time |
| Z_God | I'll really a n00b at C & C++ though, so don't expect too much! |
| Z_God | the original stuff was apparently broken already, so it would probably take quite a bit of effort to get it to work stably |
| Z_God | but if it's possible get something going, who knows how things may continue :) |
| kb9vqf | well, this is a good learning opportunity for you |
| kb9vqf | and you are right :) |
| kb9vqf | that's the idea |
| kb9vqf | it's a lot easier for me to sit down with something that fails under certain circumstances and fix it |
| kb9vqf | I waste a lot of time in getting stuff to even compile |
| Z_God | I can imagine yes... also it would be a shame to have the xparts code not maintained at all, so I hope this pre-work could at least be useful if someone else would want to look further at it |
| Z_God | right now it tries to link btw |
| Z_God | but can't find the right lib |
| kb9vqf | well, force it manually |
| kb9vqf | and make a note of the needed library that can't be found |
| Z_God | the problem is that I also cannot find the lib ;) |
| Z_God | ah apparently it's called libxul instead of gtkmozembed now, let's see what happens... |
| Z_God | it's built!! |
| Z_God | I had to make similar changes to dcopc as well, but now I have a binary :) |
| Z_God | now I need to know what exactly is necessary to register a kpart in trinity... |
| kb9vqf | IIRC you just place the .so or .la file (I forget which one :-P) in with all the other kparts, then copy the .desktop file (which lets Trinity know that there is a kpart) from the source directory into the folder with all the other kpart .desktop files |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | and I guess the binary & libs just need to be in a spot where they can be found.. |
| Z_God | ok, that's done |
| Z_God | it seems there is an issue with dcop registration |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: do you know much about DCOP & what such messages mean? http://pastebin.com/g0GLxdXG |
| Z_God | all of this output is printed after I switch the view mode from khtml to kmozilla |
| Z_God | it's failing in the code after line 606 in this file: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebindings/dcopc/dcopc.c?view=markup |
| Z_God | I did make the changes to dcopc for gtk2 as well |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: Could be that the protocol is now out of date |
| Z_God | yes, I suspect the same |
| Z_God | it seems this call is failing dcop_client_call |
| Z_God | I added some debugging messages there & it doesn't get inside the if |
| kb9vqf | what are the changes from this file? |
| kb9vqf | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdelibs/dcop/dcopc.c?revision=1212479&view=markup |
| Z_God | while googling a bit, I actually noticed that this code was still in some KDE 4 versions O_O |
| kb9vqf | I am wondering if you can take the kdelibs/dcop/dcopc.c file and overwrite the kdebindings/dcopc/dcopc.c file without problems or not |
| kb9vqf | i.e. if changes were made to the kdelibs version to make it work with GTK |
| Z_God | it looks different to me |
| kb9vqf | ok, then I wonder what the differences in dcop_client_call between those two files are |
| Z_God | it's returning a gboolean |
| Z_God | I think that's something from gtk or glib |
| Z_God | I can't find dcop_client_call at all in the kdelibs dcopc.c |
| Z_God | I guess dcopc there means dcop client and the one I need to fix is the dcop c bindings one |
| Z_God | there are several spots in the method were it returns false, I'll add some debug lines to see which one is triggered |
| Z_God | I'm also getting quite a few warning when compiling this code btw (unused parameters mainly) |
| Z_God | so I guess it wasn't maintained much |
| Z_God | it seems dcop_client_call_internal actually succeeds.... |
| kb9vqf | dcop is somewhat nasty in general |
| kb9vqf | keep tracing it I guess |
| kb9vqf | that's all I would be able to do |
| kb9vqf | once you find what is hanging it will be blindingly obvious ;-) |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: One suggestion for you: Change line 889 to read *reply_type = strdup( "TQCStringList" ); instead of *reply_type = strdup( "QCStringList" ); |
| kb9vqf | err, never mind :-P |
| kb9vqf | QCStringList is a valid type IIRC |
| Z_God | maybe something is going wrong with the gboolean |
| Z_God | it seems to be true, but it's not entering the if |
| Z_God | and then result indeed stays null |
| Z_God | ah no I need to look more carefully at the code, success is a variable that can be FALSE... |
| Z_God | it seems I need to debug (or somehow learn to understand) libICE |
| Z_God | it's already past 4am though, so I will sleep now first |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: thanks a lot for all the pointers so far! this seems very interesting :) |
| Z_God | good night! |
| Z_God | (day) |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | glad to help |
| kb9vqf | and if we get a Gecko engine out of it so much the better :) |
| Z_God | seems cool yeah :) |
| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: i think i have it almost |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: the make install, goes to the ../ of my INSTALL_ROOT... really annoyingh |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: It works! |
| kb9vqf | great! |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah. |
| MutantTurkey | I need to figure out where some stuff goes |
| MutantTurkey | like translations |
| MutantTurkey | probably in /usr/share/ |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: all hell is being raised. |
| MutantTurkey | basically whatever the depth a file (to be installed) is located, is the same depth they use for the source, that assumes they are equal, so i end up with files randomly scattered across my FS. files in like ../../../../ and ../../ |
| MutantTurkey | actually, I have no idea what is going on |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: yeah... still I have no idea. it's weird. I am going to try a clean build |
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| Fat-Zer | hi |
| Fat-Zer | now i'm installed next trinity parts:http://paste.pocoo.org/show/478289/ |
| Fat-Zer | is it ok that kcontrol doesn't display any modules?or something is broken |
| Fat-Zer | ? |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: any ideas? |
| Z_God | do you get any output when you try to launch kcontrol? |
| Fat-Zer | no |
| Z_God | maybe try installing kde-guidance now and see if you get some modules then |
| Z_God | it seems several are included in that package |
| Fat-Zer | in what module is it? |
| Z_God | the kcontrol modules have filenames like *kcm* |
| Z_God | I guess you would have to get applications/kde-guidance and see if its modules will show up |
| Fat-Zer | find /usr/kde/3.5/lib/ -iname '*kcm*' : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/478423/ |
| Z_God | hmm, I'd say at least some of those should show up |
| Fat-Zer | may be some environment varyables are not setted? |
| Z_God | I have no idea... |
| Z_God | everything else works fine? |
| Fat-Zer | nothing... currently i compiled only some modules (http://paste.pocoo.org/show/478289/) and i tried to test if they works correct |
| Z_God | then I would suggest getting into trinity using startkde first & see how that goes |
| Z_God | but I know very little about how these things works, I guess that if you do not install things in standard places (to avoid conflicts with KDE4) it indeed may be a bit trickier to get it to find all its files |
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| Fat-Zer | Z_God: thanks, everething works.. |
| Fat-Zer | is there any chances to attache localization to svn version? |
| Z_God | Fat-Zer: you should be able to install the language packs in the same way I suppose... |
| sultan2 | Interesting! ReactOS Demonstrated to the Russian President Dmitry Medvedev http://www.reactos.org/en/news_page_67.html |
| sultan2 | KDE can be installed on Windows |
| sultan2 | A ReactOS KDE (Trinity) edition would be lovely xD |
| sultan2 | When this project gets stable and usable, of course :-) |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: hi :) I'm still looking through the code, but there's a part where I think I need a hint |
| Z_God | I found line 777 in this file is the moment things seem to appear bad: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebindings/dcopc/dcopc.c?view=markup |
| Z_God | my problem is that I cannot find the declaration of this P that is being used throughout this code |
| kb9vqf | While I am not sure where P is declared, I can say that the structure is consistent with some sort of private data object |
| kb9vqf | so it may be similar to d->foo that is in use throughout the Trinity source |
| kb9vqf | Try searching for its data member "ice_conn" |
| Z_God | ok.. you think it will be in kdebindings or would I have to search larger parts of the trinity source? |
| Z_God | there are several things going on there that seem like magic to me btw |
| Z_God | the call on line 777, changes the reply.status that is checked on 790 |
| Z_God | the struct is indeed in the same file... |
| Z_God | and P is at line 109 |
| Z_God | ok thanks a lot, I hope I can understand things a bit better now :) |
| Z_God | ok, this code is just for the reception of the message that something failed |
| Z_God | another message that had been sent before is probably the cause of the real failure |
| Z_God | I wonder if there are any dcop debugging tricks... |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: is there an error log from DCOP that I can access somewhere or is there another way to collect errors from DCOP? |
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| kb9vqf | Z_God: You have to recompile dcop (in kdelibs) with debugging turned on |
| kb9vqf | There are #defines that control the debugging |
| kb9vqf | IIRC there are some in dcopserver.cpp and some in dcopclient.cpp |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | and then it'll print info to stderr? |
| kb9vqf | IIRC yes |
| kb9vqf | some might be saved to a special dcop server logile |
| kb9vqf | *logfile |
| kb9vqf | the path to that file would be in the dcopserver.* files |
| kb9vqf | *source files |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | I hope this will give me some kind of verbose info |
| kb9vqf | yes it will :) |
| kb9vqf | I have had to debug DCOP once before |
| Z_God | ok, great :) |
| kb9vqf | It is not fun at all |
| kb9vqf | good luck :) |
| Z_God | I suspect that the dcopc is out of date or smth with the protocol |
| kb9vqf | that is my guess as well |
| kb9vqf | too bad there is no changelog for DCOP |
| Z_God | I hope I won't have do go through all kinds of special ways for C <> C++ conversion |
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| Z_God | when I try to compile kdelibs I get this error: Unknown CMake command "tde_add_library" |
| Fat-Zer | ÆÔ× ÛÙ ÅÒÕËÕ ÙÝØÕ ÃÆËÔÛÔÐÙ ÉÕÁÝËÕ ÛÅ, |
| Fat-Zer | and is there some warnings before it? |
| Z_God | nope |
| Z_God | I'm checking out the SVN tree now, maybe it'll work better |
| Z_God | I did manage to compile with debuild somehow |
| Fat-Zer | and from what source was sources you tried to compile just now? |
| Z_God | latest nightly build sources |
| Z_God | for ubuntu lucid |
| Z_God | seems SVN is working better |
| Z_God | compiling now :) |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: the make install command is sort of freaking me out |
| kb9vqf | how so? |
| kb9vqf | don't you have any stock Qt3 packaging scripts that you can reference for your distro? |
| MutantTurkey | I do. |
| MutantTurkey | and they are using an identical commmand |
| MutantTurkey | either way, they don't pull from git. |
| MutantTurkey | which is why it is weird |
| MutantTurkey | they also use |
| MutantTurkey | make INSTALL_ROOT=${pkgdir} install |
| MutantTurkey | what is happening to me, reproducably, is that there are a ton of ../ moves (and like ../../ and ../../../ |
| MutantTurkey | so instead of installing to /home/calvin/trinity/dependencies/qt3/pkg it ends up in /calvin/trinity or /calvin |
| MutantTurkey | all over the place |
| MutantTurkey | and thne a FEW are in the actual dir. |
| MutantTurkey | weird huh? |
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| kb9vqf | no kidding |
| kb9vqf | I wonder why I don't see that behaviour |
| MutantTurkey | i can't even comprehend |
| MutantTurkey | I did a clean install today and still had it. |
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| MutantTurkey | they are all over |
| MutantTurkey | bin, master and plugins are in ../../../ |
| MutantTurkey | bin, imageformats inputmethods lib phrasebooks templates are in ../../ |
| MutantTurkey | whoops, that should have been 4 and 3 parent dirs |
| MutantTurkey | bin and translations are in ../ |
| MutantTurkey | and in ./ are doc include lib and translations |
| MutantTurkey | can't understand :| |
| Z_God | great dcopserver gives me "Corrupt data!" on the standard error! |
| Z_God | seems that will be another dig again... |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: ever ran into something like this? http://pastebin.com/vggcz258 |
| Z_God | I already compared the code in dcop that generates this error to the code at the time when this plugin was still updated and that fuction is the same |
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| Z_God | is there a way to print the contents of a TQByteArray or TQString to a terminal? |
| Fat-Zer | std::cout<<(const char*) tqstr; |
| Fat-Zer | no? |
| kb9vqf | No, I have never seen the "Corrupt data!" message |
| kb9vqf | printf(TQString("foo").ascii()); |
| kb9vqf | or rather printf("%s", TQString("foo").ascii()); |
| Z_God | thanks, that should help a lot :) |
| Z_God | let's see.... |
| Z_God | it seems the marshalling of the data in dcopc is broken |
| Z_God | it doesn't seem to work... |
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| Z_God | I'm trying to view the contents of ba declared at line 721 in this file http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdelibs/dcop/dcopserver.cpp?revision=129821&view=markup&pathrev=129821 |
| Z_God | after it has been filled by IceReadData at line 722 |
| Z_God | when I print fromApp.data() and toApp().data() a bit lower, I get two strings back, which are derived from the QDataStream based on that QByteArray |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: go on... |
| Z_God | so I'm quite sure it's filled with something |
| Z_God | when I do this: printf("Trying to print: ba.data()==%s\n", TQString(ba.data()).ascii()); |
| MutantTurkey | what are the strings returned? |
| Z_God | I get nothing however |
| Z_God | they are things like "kded" and "DCOPServer" |
| MutantTurkey | hrm |
| MutantTurkey | and what do you expect? |
| Z_God | that I see at least those back when I print the whole array where the readQCString extract them from |
| Z_God | hmm, maybe \0 is used as some kind of separator in the array? |
| Z_God | I didn't see any proper DCOP message specs |
| MutantTurkey | I don't really know how DCOP works |
| Fat-Zer | try to print raw data: |
| Fat-Zer | printf("Trying to print: ba.size()==%d\n data:", ba.size()); |
| Fat-Zer | for(int i=0;i<ba.size();i++) printf("%02X\n", ba.data()); |
| Fat-Zer | and it's usefull to fill array with zeros before reading it... for debug... |
| Z_God | it displays just 85B1870 |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: do you have any DCOP documentation? |
| Z_God | I only saw the official docs describing how to use the C++ implementation |
| Z_God | but they do not really give info on the message format |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| Z_God | normally it wouldn't be really needed |
| Z_God | but in this case I need to use dcopc, which is the dcop C implentation |
| Z_God | which appears to be out of sync & thus incompatible |
| MutantTurkey | okay I am confused as to what you are doing :P |
| MutantTurkey | what are you up too with DCOP? |
| Z_God | I'm trying to get kmozilla to work |
| MutantTurkey | oh cool |
| Z_God | it's a kpart which embeds a Mozilla browser |
| Z_God | it uses this xparts to be able to embed a gtk app |
| Z_God | I already managed to convert the code to compile against gtk2 (from gtk1.2) |
| Z_God | now I need to get the C based DCOP library going |
| Z_God | dcopserver is getting corrupted messages from it now |
| Z_God | so I'm trying to get more info from dcopserver, to see why it cannot handle them |
| MutantTurkey | the mozilla backend gecko? |
| Z_God | yes |
| MutantTurkey | why do you need DCOP? |
| MutantTurkey | for the kpart? |
| Z_God | it uses dcop for communication |
| Z_God | between the GTK C part and Qt C++ part |
| MutantTurkey | used gtkmm |
| MutantTurkey | just a though |
| Z_God | the GTK part is completely running in another process |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | so does the DCOP library for C exist already? |
| Z_God | I'm just trying to get the original kmozilla in the trinity tree to work actually |
| Z_God | I'm not writing anything myself ;) |
| Z_God | yep, it's also in the trinity tree |
| Z_God | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebindings/dcopc/ |
| MutantTurkey | oh cool |
| Z_God | and this is the kpart itself http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebindings/xparts/mozilla/ |
| MutantTurkey | so is the DCOP in C broken or is the mozilla -> DCOP broken? |
| Z_God | 1st |
| Z_God | dcopc is not able to send valid messages to dcopserver |
| MutantTurkey | did the dcop format change? |
| MutantTurkey | also are there other implementations of DCOP (python or anything?) |
| Z_God | that's is the question, I checked older DCOP code and it seems quite similar |
| Z_God | I don't know |
| MutantTurkey | did the DCOPC change at all? |
| Z_God | the marshalling is also using some tricks that I do not really understand |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know much of anything, I am just a humble packager |
| MutantTurkey | I am like that guy who does whatever random tasks assigned |
| Z_God | the code is around line 738 here: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebindings/dcopc/dcopc.c?view=markup |
| Z_God | a DCOP command basically consists of 3 things, the local app, the remote app and the command |
| Z_God | the first two at least are normal strings |
| MutantTurkey | so give me an example of a dcop command |
| MutantTurkey | and what type of connection is it? |
| MutantTurkey | a socket? |
| Z_God | on one side gchars, the other TQCString |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | unix socket |
| MutantTurkey | do you have a wrapper function for the gchars to TQCtring? |
| MutantTurkey | or are they both just enumerations for char? |
| Z_God | of course, all the magic needs to happen on the dcopc side |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| Z_God | it has several marshall methods to change the format |
| Z_God | and those I do not fully understand |
| Z_God | and example of a dcop command is: dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface changeWallpaper |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| Z_God | you could run it from a shell to change your wallpaper |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | so works similar to dbus |
| Z_God | yes, dbus is the successor of dcop |
| MutantTurkey | I know |
| Z_God | Fat-Zer: it seems there is an i missing in the printf? |
| Z_God | that's why it's printing the same stuff over & over.... not sure coding at night is always smart :) |
| MutantTurkey | what is the function you are using? |
| MutantTurkey | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebindings/dcopc/dcopc.c?view=markup |
| MutantTurkey | sorry |
| Z_God | for(int i=0;i<ba.size();i++) printf("%02X\n", ba.data()); |
| Z_God | I'd like to print the contents of the full array |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: got it working |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: paste the section of your code into a pastie okay? |
| Z_God | alright |
| MutantTurkey | I can't read it like hat :P |
| Z_God | the main issue is I'm a C n00b ;) |
| MutantTurkey | I can help |
| MutantTurkey | I am adequate in C |
| MutantTurkey | and I am good at GTK/GDK stack if you need any other help with that |
| Z_God | http://pastebin.com/08BxJCB4 |
| Z_God | this is how I modified the code now |
| MutantTurkey | http://pastebin.com/08BxJCB4 |
| Z_God | the fromApp and toApp are printed successfully for normal apps like konq |
| Z_God | but they are null for kmozilla |
| Z_God | they are extracted from the array using the readQCString methods |
| Z_God | so I hope to print the original TQByteArray to see if I can find the differences between the normal operation and what it gets from dcopc |
| MutantTurkey | dude you need to learn how to space stuff out. |
| Z_God | yeah, it's a mess |
| MutantTurkey | ba.size.. what is that? |
| MutantTurkey | ba.size? |
| MutantTurkey | and does it output anything right now? |
| Z_God | TQByteArray ba( length ); |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| Z_God | line 4 in the paste |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| Z_God | it does not output anything with the first 2 attempts |
| MutantTurkey | is the array always 4 elements? |
| MutantTurkey | or a certain number? |
| Z_God | can be any number |
| MutantTurkey | oh okay |
| MutantTurkey | I didn't know if it was fixed |
| Z_God | Fat-Zer: gave me the for loop, but it is not fully correct yet |
| MutantTurkey | printf("%02X\n, ba.data()); |
| MutantTurkey | thats the problem i think |
| Z_God | it always prints the first part |
| Z_God | yes, the i needs to be used in the printf, but I'm not sure how to do that |
| MutantTurkey | printf needs to use the %s |
| MutantTurkey | so like |
| MutantTurkey | printf("here is a few chars. char 1 = %s char 2 = %s", char one variable, char 2 variable |
| Z_God | I'm going to try it first with hexadecimal output |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | just fix printf |
| Z_God | to make sure \0 won't be a problem |
| MutantTurkey | thats not |
| MutantTurkey | printf("%s", ba.data()); |
| MutantTurkey | try that |
| MutantTurkey | forget about any formtatting |
| Fat-Zer | printf("%s", ba.data()[i]); |
| Z_God | I think that's basically line 6 |
| MutantTurkey | what he said |
| Z_God | ah no |
| MutantTurkey | i think Fat-Zer is right |
| Z_God | will add the [i] |
| MutantTurkey | I can't tell I am too tired |
| MutantTurkey | wait is ba.data a function? |
| Z_God | it's working it seems |
| Fat-Zer | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/3.3/qbytearray-members.html |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: awesome! |
| Z_God | I'm getting the whole array in hex |
| Fat-Zer | qt is really good-documented... |
| MutantTurkey | as well as gtk |
| MutantTurkey | large projects tend to be |
| MutantTurkey | because they have entire teams working on docs. |
| MutantTurkey | okay I gotta stop by the ATM and grocery store... I'll be back later. |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: see you! |
| Z_God | not sure if I'll still be up later... |
| Z_God | Fat-Zer: your IRC client does unicode? работает? |
| Fat-Zer | ага |
| Z_God | это не очень поздно у вас? ;) |
| Fat-Zer | 5:30 |
| Z_God | здесь 3:30 :) |
| Fat-Zer | ото где, если не секрет?=) |
| Z_God | Голландия :) |
| Fat-Zer | мда... уже явно поздно... я не в ту сторону прибавил - думал откуда-то с урала...:-D |
| Z_God | хехе, ты блиско Москвы? |
| Fat-Zer | в Москве |
| Z_God | здорово :) |
| Z_God | I see the problem now I think btw |
| Fat-Zer | и это говорит человек, живущий в Голандии=) |
| Z_God | there are multiple extra 00 characters after the length, which makes dcop trip |
| Z_God | да, был 2 раза в Москве |
| Z_God | это красивый город! |
| Z_God | следуюшая неделя, я буду начинать учиться русский язык в университете, поэтому мне надо трейнираваться ;) |
| Fat-Zer | у тебя неплохо получалось... до последней фразы... |
| Z_God | спасибо ! |
| Z_God | я пробоваю :) |
| Z_God | думаю что я буду спать сейчас |
| Z_God | понимаю сейчас где проблема, буду смотреть больше завтра... |
| Z_God | спокойной ночи! |
| Z_God | it seems I know where the problem comes from, I guess either dcop used to be more tolerant in the past or some of the functions used by dcopc were slightly changed which caused some extra bytes to be inserted |
| Fat-Zer | спокойной... |
| Z_God | hope to look at it more tomorrow, good night all! |
| Fat-Zer | maybe it's not there... |
| Z_God | Fat-Zer: пока! ещё спасибо за помоча! |
| Z_God | what do you mean? |
| Fat-Zer | i can't see source... websvn.kde.org is down for me now... |
| Z_God | really? |
| Z_God | it works here |
| Fat-Zer | yes... don't know why.... |
| Z_God | http://184.106.129.124/ |
| Fat-Zer | anyway... cya |
| Z_God | I get 4 different IP addresses for it |
| Z_God | alright, bye! |
| MutantTurkey | back |
| MutantTurkey | you guys are speaking russian? |
| Fat-Zer | yes |
| MutantTurkey | awesome |
| MutantTurkey | makes me so jealous :| |
| MutantTurkey | anyway qt3 building for me finally :) |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: on what system are you buildung? |
| MutantTurkey | Archlinux |
| Fat-Zer | arch always was too hard for me to understand... |
| MutantTurkey | hands down my only distro to use |
| MutantTurkey | I've used them all |
| Fat-Zer | my only and the one is gentoo... but i still haven't tried slackware, but i belive i von't like it... |
| MutantTurkey | gitmeh |
| MutantTurkey | gentoo is meh for me |
| MutantTurkey | It's to much work |
| Fat-Zer | all work is done by compiller... you just tell it ones what you want =) |
| Fat-Zer | ok... i'm going to sleep |
| Fat-Zer | cya |
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| MutantTurkey | night alll |
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| Z_God | fixed the DCOP issue it seems, uint32s were marshalled and demarshalled in the wrong order for some reason |
| Z_God | now the registration works, but nothing is rendered displayed yet |
| Z_God | I do not get any errors on my terminal anymore though... |
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| Fat-Zer | u meen in one case it was LE in an another BE? o_O |
| Fat-Zer | Z_God: ? |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | I guess |
| Z_God | let me show it |
| Z_God | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebindings/dcopc/marshal.c?view=markup |
| Z_God | this file |
| Z_God | line 93-96 |
| Z_God | I changed the numbers so now it's from buf[3] to buf[0] |
| Z_God | and the same switch at line 108-111 |
| Z_God | now it's passed the registration correctly |
| Z_God | it* |
| Fat-Zer | oh.. i think you made a facepalm when you discovered it... |
| Fat-Zer | =) |
| Fat-Zer | and by the way: kb9vqf is tim pearson or not? |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | you can only discover such things with debugging I guess though ;) |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 516 filed by patrick@serru.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=516 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Malfunction with Audacity |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 516 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
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| samelian | kb9vqf: kdenetwork/wifi is compilable on your machines? |
| kb9vqf | I use autotools, and yes |
| samelian | which version of wireless-tools? |
| kb9vqf | I am only using CMake for the core system right now |
| kb9vqf | 30~pre9-3ubuntu4 |
| samelian | aha, new |
| samelian | thx |
| samelian | if I will be able to compile knetwork/wifi, cmake port of kdenetwork can be considered done |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | and glad to hear it :) |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: maybe you can give me some advice again! |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Z_God | I actually got dcopc to communicate with dcopserver |
| samelian | kb9vqf: I commited last part of cmake support for kdenetwork |
| samelian | test it when you have time |
| kb9vqf | cool (to both of you) |
| Z_God | it turned out some byte orders were reversed |
| Z_God | the initial registration succeeds now |
| kb9vqf | makes sense with the DCOP changes theory |
| Z_God | but now it gets kicked again after a few seconds and I see this on the dcopserver side |
| Z_God | DCOP aborting call from 'konqueror-25730' to 'kmozilla-25742' |
| Z_God | DCOP aborting while waiting for answer from 'konqueror-25730' |
| Z_God | and then it unregisters kmozilla-25742 |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| kb9vqf | looks like kmozilla is not responding to a call |
| Z_God | or maybe the other way around |
| Z_God | because konq doesn't understand a certain call from kmozilla |
| kb9vqf | I'm looking at this: DCOP aborting call from 'konqueror-25730' to 'kmozilla-25742' |
| kb9vqf | That sounds like kmozilla is not responding to a call |
| kb9vqf | It would help if you knew which commands were being sent where |
| kb9vqf | IIRC there is a debug option to turn that on |
| Z_God | ok, let me see.... |
| Z_God | I already uncommented #define DCOP_DEBUG and added #undef NDEBUG which gave me a lot more output |
| kb9vqf | Look at DCOP_LOG |
| kb9vqf | in dcopserver.cpp |
| Z_God | ah :) |
| Z_God | I wonder where those logs end up though... |
| Z_God | I guess somewhere in ~/.trinity |
| kb9vqf | In your home directory actually |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| Z_God | right I have the messages |
| Z_God | but without any application names |
| kb9vqf | you might have to modify the debug statement to include the app names |
| kb9vqf | that is, the #ifdefed statement that prints messages to the log file |
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| kb9vqf | Z_God: sorry, logged off accidentally |
| Z_God | np, there is only one message after loading kmozilla it seems a registerAs(TQCString) |
| Z_God | all the other registerAs(TQCString) messages are also accompanied by a setDaemonMode(bool) message |
| kb9vqf | so kmozilla sends the registerAs request? |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | at least it's send again when I reload kmozilla |
| Z_God | also this registration is confirmed |
| Z_God | on the kmozilla side I get a proper reply and kmozilla is indeed registered for a short moment |
| Z_God | after that both sides seem to expect something different |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: btw you should let me know at what point you think I should start sending patches |
| kb9vqf | let's try after the DCOP problem is fixed |
| Z_God | alright :) |
| Z_God | btw |
| Z_God | when dcopserver has unregistered kmozilla |
| Z_God | it still gets another message from kmozilla |
| Z_God | which it discards as DCOPReply for unknown connection. |
| Z_God | so it seems that kmozilla is still under the assumption that is has a registration |
| Z_God | it* |
| Z_God | so I guess that indeed there is a message that kmozilla may not respond properly to |
| Z_God | kmozilla recieves 3 messages 2x a windowId() and then a show() |
| kb9vqf | well, either that or dcopserver is expecing something back from kmozilla |
| kb9vqf | dcopserver can terminate the connection if it doesn't like something |
| Z_God | hmm ok |
| Z_God | could it be that it gets windowId() twice because the 1st answer is not appropriate? |
| kb9vqf | it's possible |
| kb9vqf | what does it send back? |
| Z_God | let me see... going to look through the function now that prints the received messages |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Z_God | it seems to return the window id |
| Z_God | and it goes again through the marshalling function that I had to change |
| Z_God | maybe this change is not suitable for all UINT32s |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: do you know anything about window ids? could 69206019 be a normal window id? |
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| kb9vqf | Z_God: Yes |
| kb9vqf | that is likely correct |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | strange |
| Z_God | I guess this uint stuff was changed due to a newer compiler or smth then |
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| Z_God | but it seems I'm not getting all dcop messages in my log, because there is no windowId() at all in there |
| Z_God | yes, the log is very incomplete, I'm getting more info now by printing all the data being received |
| Z_God | the message that kmozilla sends when it is already unregistered is queryExtension(TQCString) |
| Z_God | I see the window id passing correctly twice to konqueror |
| Z_God | and then show() is not returning anything |
| Z_God | I wonder what a program is supposed to answer when dcop function doesn't have a defined return type |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: what about issue with cmake that i dicussed in maillist? |
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| Fat-Zer | *discussed |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: What exactly is the problem? |
| kb9vqf | That was not clear to me |
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| Xu_R | well.. |
| Xu_R | this is relatively quiet for a meeting night >_> |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: sorry was afk... |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf:... |
| kb9vqf | ugh |
| kb9vqf | I'm popular :) |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| Fat-Zer | the problem: every time when I compile something from kdebase it's also compiles 3 executabeles: kdmtsak, tsak and krootbacking |
| kb9vqf | ah, even if they have already been compiled? |
| Fat-Zer | so if' i'm trying to build only eg. libkonq compiles also those... |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| kb9vqf | maybe Serghei would know better what is going on that I would |
| kb9vqf | I am still relatively new to CMake |
| MutantTurkey | what is the problem? |
| MutantTurkey | I am adequate at cmake |
| Fat-Zer | CMakeList.txt in kdebase... |
| Fat-Zer | tsak and krootbacking modules are compiled independ to build flags |
| MutantTurkey | ok I will look |
| MutantTurkey | is there a conditional to build it? |
| Fat-Zer | no, that's im talking about |
| Fat-Zer | a minute... i've got a patch |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: hold up, where ar ethe source files for tsak? |
| MutantTurkey | what folder? |
| Fat-Zer | tsak )) |
| MutantTurkey | on the git right? |
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| Fat-Zer | no... svn |
| MutantTurkey | oh okay |
| MutantTurkey | under kdebase? |
| Fat-Zer | git is still emptyisn't it? |
| Fat-Zer | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebase/ |
| MutantTurkey | nope. just has differnet stuff |
| MutantTurkey | ah, forgot to pull in latest changes xD |
| Fat-Zer | only qt... |
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| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: and some other stuff |
| MutantTurkey | tqtinterface, qt3, and all the packaging materials |
| Fat-Zer | kdmtsac binary in kdm folder also builds unconditionaly |
| Fat-Zer | oh... that wasn,t a question)) |
| MutantTurkey | okay sorry, I have to run svn cleanup (might take a while) |
| Fat-Zer | here is that i'm projecting: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/479537/ |
| MutantTurkey | something is weird happening with my svn tree, regardless |
| MutantTurkey | looks goot to me. but it should be BUILD_TSAK not BUILD_TSAC |
| MutantTurkey | also you need to keep the spacing all identical and so forth |
| MutantTurkey | you know, coding rules :) |
| Fat-Zer | yeap... a typo =) |
| MutantTurkey | yessir :D |
| MutantTurkey | typos are important for quality control |
| MutantTurkey | believe me, I spent like a month porting kdegraphics to cmake... I am very sloppy so I spent half the time fixing error |
| MutantTurkey | wonder how lon gsvn has been messed up for... seems alot has changed. |
| Fat-Zer | and what's wrong with spacing? |
| MutantTurkey | just keep it intact :) |
| MutantTurkey | make sure it follows the regular pattern |
| MutantTurkey | and did you check to see the patch worked? |
| Fat-Zer | yes... it worked.. |
| MutantTurkey | send it in! |
| Fat-Zer | great=) |
| Fat-Zer | and one more...why kdmtsac binary is located under kdmlib? maybe it's better to move it to kdm? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ^ |
| kb9vqf | because it is sort of a library |
| kb9vqf | well, it's used by kdm anyway |
| kb9vqf | and kdesktop_lock |
| kb9vqf | so I was a bit hesitant to have it shut off if kdm is not compiled |
| Fat-Zer | and kdesktop_lock is a part of kdm package? |
| Fat-Zer | i'm just not really sure what condition should be for it build... |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: ? |
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| Fat-Zer | yes.... here is really quiet... |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: ? |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: did you send that patch? |
| Fat-Zer | sorry, where to send? |
| MutantTurkey | the dev ML |
| Fat-Zer | i sended it a couple of days ago... |
| Fat-Zer | [cmake][kdbase] necessity of add_subdirectory thread |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| Fat-Zer | but it's with bad "build_tsaC"... fix and send again? |
| MutantTurkey | should be |
| MutantTurkey | BUILD_TSAK |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: i'm still not really sure about condition for kdmtsak... i'll add a FIXME there |
| Fat-Zer | send |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | saw it |
| Fat-Zer | also i think i can help with cmake porting... |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: ? |
| MutantTurkey | awesome |
| MutantTurkey | that's sweet |
| MutantTurkey | there are some coding guidelines and such |
| MutantTurkey | but follow by example |
| MutantTurkey | but hey, anything specific you want to port? |
| Fat-Zer | i don't know what to start with.... may be kdeutils... |
| Fat-Zer | but I'll just finish ebuilds at least for kdebase first... |
| MutantTurkey | finish ebuilds |
| MutantTurkey | more important :) |
| Fat-Zer | and krootbacking should be a part of kscreensaver |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| Fat-Zer | it's "A program to grab the current TDE desktop backrounds for xscreensaver" |
| Fat-Zer | so i think it's logical... it's no profit from it without kscreensaver... |
| Fat-Zer | *there is no profit |
| Fat-Zer | writed all my thinkes about that to ML |
| MutantTurkey | good |
| MutantTurkey | It's goot to have more eyes looking over the same material |
| MutantTurkey | different things jump out |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: kdm cannot be compiled without pan support. right? |
| MutantTurkey | is there an option to? |
| MutantTurkey | If not I assume some |
| MutantTurkey | and doy ou mean PAM? |
| Fat-Zer | yes, pam... |
| Fat-Zer | an option is in the main CMakeList.txt |
| MutantTurkey | not required i don't think |
| MutantTurkey | WITH_PAM i think is the variable |
| Fat-Zer | i'm embarrassed by this: |
| Fat-Zer | 16 if( NOT DEFINED KDM_PAM_SERVICE ) |
| Fat-Zer | 17 set( KDM_PAM_SERVICE "kde" CACHE INTERNAL "" ) |
| Fat-Zer | 18 endif( ) |
| Fat-Zer | in kdm's root... |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: It was originally intended for kscreensaver, but I got to thinking that any 3rd party app that wants to use the desktop background might as well have access to the generated file |
| Fat-Zer | what generated file? |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: you mean some security issues? |
| MutantTurkey | goin to bed |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: No, not really |
| MutantTurkey | night doodes |
| kb9vqf | krootbacking generates a png file of the current desktop background |
| kb9vqf | that's it |
| kb9vqf | and other apps might want to use it |
| kb9vqf | I don't care too much one way or another |
| Fat-Zer | oh... ok... understand this. |
| Fat-Zer | tsac in separate folder on the same reason? |
| kb9vqf | yes, as tsak is a systemwide daemon process |
| kb9vqf | that one has to stay in kdebase though |
| kb9vqf | as kdm, kdesktop_lock, and kdesktop rely on it |
| kb9vqf | (they will fall back to the original KDE3.5 less secure login mode if it is not installed and running) |
| Fat-Zer | is there any tsac-related code in kdm or somethere else, that can turned off by defines? |
| kb9vqf | no, it will auto-detect that tsac is not available and running |
| kb9vqf | at runtime |
| kb9vqf | but I strongly recommend that tsac be available unless there is a very good reason that it not be |
| kb9vqf | not having the SAK available means that login screen spoofing is a very real possibility |
| kb9vqf | (i.e. KDE3.5.10 was vulnerable to login screen spoofing) |
| Fat-Zer | will you here for 1-2 hours? |
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| kb9vqf | FYI Freenode seems to be messed up at the moment--neither tbottu nor I can become channel operator |
| kb9vqf | Please be civil everyone :) |
| kb9vqf | FYI2 NickServ is down |
| kb9vqf | due to the netsplit |
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| kb9vqf | OK, Freenode is back in business! :) |
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| Fat-Zer | about kdm/pam seems it doesn't work without it... |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Oh, fun, more legal problems: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3067 |
| kb9vqf | Can you look into the issue and see if there is any way around it? |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: |
| Xu_R | apparently the opensuse legal team |
| Xu_R | is starting to give numerous bugreports |
| Xu_R | to Ilya about licensing issues in KDE3... |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: it may be a misunderstanding, so I need to see what happens next. |
| kb9vqf | so OpenSUSE wants KDE3 dead |
| kb9vqf | Nice :-P |
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| Xu_R | XD |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Problem is fixed in SVN |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 may still have the license problem ;-) |
| Xu_R | ok :D |
| Xu_R | hehe, they probably still do :P |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ilya is actually good for helping us sort through license issues :) |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | for that I am very grateful; |
| kb9vqf | as am I |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | IANAL |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | oh, I am not a lawyer :P |
| MutantTurkey | finally got jack working smoothly :D |
| kb9vqf | cool! |
| MutantTurkey | I also see samelian is commiting agian |
| MutantTurkey | that is good |
| kb9vqf | yes it is |
| MutantTurkey | He is moving right through kdenetwork, excellent |
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| MutantTurkey | merging back all the stuff into my qt3 spec file. |
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| MutantTurkey | usb webcam = pain in ass |
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| KingSphinx | Does Trinity's Konsole use the standard .bashrc file in a user's home, or does it use something else? |
| kb9vqf | Yes it does AFAIk |
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| kb9vqf | Yes it does AFAIK |
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| KingSphinx | Ah, okay, just wondering. Out of sheer boredom, I've started modifying my .bashrc so it can actually display syntax-appropriate coloring, which IMO is a bit easier to look at than white-on-black all the time. Unfortunately, the color scheme I've found is a .vim scheme, not something I could put in .bashrc. Oh well. :/ |
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| Fat-Zer | hi all |
| Fat-Zer | can't run tsak... |
| kb9vqf | what does it do? |
| kb9vqf | (i.e. how does it fail?) |
| Fat-Zer | $ sudo tsak |
| Fat-Zer | Reading From : (AT Translated Set 2 keyboard) |
| Fat-Zer | Unable to open /dev/uinput or /dev/misc/uinput (char device 10:223). |
| Fat-Zer | Possible causes: Device node inexistent or kernel not compiled with evdev user level driver support or permission denied. |
| Fat-Zer | open("/dev/misc/uinput"): No such file or directory |
| kb9vqf | BTW it's still somewhat experimental; TDE should fall back to the original login mode if needed |
| Fat-Zer | $ grep EVDEV .config |
| Fat-Zer | CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y |
| kb9vqf | which operating system are you on? |
| kb9vqf | distro? |
| Fat-Zer | gentoo |
| Fat-Zer | uname -a |
| Fat-Zer | Linux vm-gentoo-test 2.6.36.2-vm-0.1.2 #6 Fri Jul 29 04:36:07 MSD 2011 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| kb9vqf | USB or PS/2 keyboard? |
| Fat-Zer | virtualbox... it's emulates ps/2 as i remember |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | I haven't tried PS/2 keyboards myself |
| kb9vqf | I know it works for USB keyboards |
| kb9vqf | Trinity does fall back to the non-SAK based authentication dialogs, correct? |
| Fat-Zer | yes, correct... |
| Fat-Zer | but there is no such folder (/dev/misc/) |
| Fat-Zer | either on normal system |
| kb9vqf | Do you have the uinput module installed in your kernel? |
| kb9vqf | oh wait...it isn't called uinput.... |
| kb9vqf | hmm, yes it is :-P |
| * kb9vqf is working on other things at the same time here | |
| kb9vqf | Where is your /dev/uinput device node equivalent? |
| kb9vqf | tsak tries both /dev/uinput and /dev/misc/uinput |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Is your /dev/uinput actually under /dev/input/uinput? |
| Fat-Zer | yes... |
| Fat-Zer | INPUT_UINPUT=n |
| kb9vqf | well, it won't work without uinput ;-) |
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| Fat-Zer | ok... i'll rebuild it... |
| Fat-Zer | thanks... i've wached for EVDEV option only... |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Was the error message unclear? |
| kb9vqf | I'll change it :) |
| Fat-Zer | it's better to add name of option(INPUT_UINPUT) |
| Fat-Zer | i think... |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: what is the exact name of the EVDEV option |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | Ah, never mind: INPUT_EVDEV |
| Fat-Zer | Event interface: CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV |
| Fat-Zer | User level driver support: INPUT_UINPUT |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Error message has been made clearer in SVN revision 1255172. |
| Fat-Zer | thanks=) |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | thanks for bringing this to my attention |
| Fat-Zer | and another one... not really important... if i run tsak from a normal user the error message is: "Another instance of this program is already running" |
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| M1as | hiho |
| M1as | I again ran into the "error on configging kdelibs-data" problem |
| M1as | on installing trinity onto lucid |
| M1as | kdelibs4c2a: Hängt ab: kdelibs-data (> 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1) |
| M1as | Hängt ab: kdelibs-data (< 4:3.5.10.dfsg.2) |
| M1as | Hängt ab= depends on |
| M1as | any help? |
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| Mias | re |
| Mias | saw my question befre? was M1as |
| Mias | before |
| Fat-Zer | who's dependence is this: kdelibs-data (< 4:3.5.10.dfsg.2) ? |
| Mias | Fat-Zer: kdelibs4c2a: Hängt ab: kdelibs-data (> 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1) |
| Mias | Hängt ab: kdelibs-data (< 4:3.5.10.dfsg.2) |
| Mias | seems it wants concurrent libs-versions |
| Fat-Zer | what is Hängt ab? |
| Mias | < and > same time |
| Mias | Fat-Zer: "depends on"# |
| Mias | oh I missed the last count |
| Mias | how to solve this? |
| Fat-Zer | ugh.. don't know anything about ubuntu packages... |
| Mias | hmm; debian? ;) |
| Fat-Zer | gentoo =) |
| Mias | ugh |
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| kb9vqf | Mias: Trinity cannot be installed alongside any KDE3.5 packages |
| Mias | whut |
| Mias | no KDE3.5 here except trinity |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: what are you doing? |
| MutantTurkey | h/w |
| MutantTurkey | j/w |
| MutantTurkey | oh nevermind I am going crazy.. I am sloppy reader |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: nearly finished kdebase ebuilds... but i'm running out of space on /home partion so my virtualbox nearly hangs up and i'm need to reboot to resize it... |
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| MutantTurkey | awesome |
| MutantTurkey | that's sweet you are making progress |
| Fat-Zer | now got some problems with tsac & kdm... |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: tsac still doesn't work... does it probe /dev/nput/uinput device? |
| Fat-Zer | * /dev/input/uinput |
| kb9vqf | /dev/uinput |
| kb9vqf | if you have /dev/input/uinput instead then that needs to be fixed |
| kb9vqf | in tsak |
| Fat-Zer | seems there is some problems with gentoo udev scripts also... i've got a warning about it... |
| Fat-Zer | i'll try to update it first... |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | poke me if you need tsak to probe /dev/input/uinput as well |
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| Fat-Zer | udev prints: |
| Fat-Zer | 1316830834.356731 [1815] udev_event_execute_rules: kernel-provided name 'uinput' and NAME= 'input/uinput' disagree, please use SYMLINK+= or change the kernel to provide the proper name |
| Fat-Zer | i think later it will be fixed if i report a bug... but IMHO it's ok and even better to add extra search path... |
| Fat-Zer | but even if i'm adding this symlink with hands tsak doesn't works... |
| Fat-Zer | but here is another problem... |
| Fat-Zer | kdm crashes when i click sutdown |
| Fat-Zer | /var/log/kdm.log http://paste.pocoo.org/show/481427/ |
| Fat-Zer | crash message: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/481428/ |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: ideas? |
| Fat-Zer | kdm.log (with working tsak) : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/481430/ |
| Fat-Zer | * not working actually, but proces runs correctly |
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| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: So kdm only crashes if tsak is not running? |
| Fat-Zer | kdm crashes everytime |
| Fat-Zer | if shutdown is decieded |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Fat-Zer | can you reproduce this? |
| kb9vqf | not yet |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Looks like the problem MAY lie in the Qt PNG libraries or lower level interface |
| kb9vqf | which may be why you see it on Gentoo and I do not see it on Ubuntu |
| kb9vqf | do you have the ability to debug this problem some? |
| Fat-Zer | yes... i' ll try... |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | thanks :) |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: how can i see what commits was to the specific file in trinity git? |
| Fat-Zer | anyway.... qt doesn't compiles without xinerama headers (xinerama support is disabled) |
| Fat-Zer | build log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/481471/ |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: fix the problem: |
| Fat-Zer | plugins/src/inputmethods/xim/xim.pro: CONFIG+= xinerama |
| Fat-Zer | no... that doesn't |
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| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Click the difference icon next to the commit in the commit log |
| kb9vqf | It has plus and minus signs on it |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: as long as xim doesn't use xinerama it's ok to add "DEFINES += QT_NO_XINERAMA" to qt/plugins/src/inputmethods/xim/xim.pro. this fixes the compilation without xinerama headers... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 517 filed by michaelmartin007@hotmail.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=517 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, trinity-restricted-addons and trinity-restricted-extras |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 518 filed by michaelmartin007@hotmail.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=518 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok-trinity by Clementine authors development. |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: there? |
| Fat-Zer | found there the problem with kdm... |
| Fat-Zer | it fails to load jpeg becouse qt compiles over headers in it's include directory... |
| Fat-Zer | i looked it through (qt includes) and it's full of garbage |
| Fat-Zer | also seems there is a problem in qt code... |
| Fat-Zer | 206 jpeg_create_decompress(&cinfo); |
| Fat-Zer | 207 |
| Fat-Zer | 208 cinfo.src = iod_src; |
| Fat-Zer | 209 |
| Fat-Zer | 210 cinfo.err = jpeg_std_error(&jerr); |
| Fat-Zer | 211 jerr.error_exit = my_error_exit; |
| Fat-Zer | * kernel/qjpegio.cpp |
| Fat-Zer | seems jpeg_create_decompress should be the last in this listing... |
| Fat-Zer | in this case if JPEG_LIB_VERSION will be changed it won't crash and will display error message... |
| Fat-Zer | i'll check if it's so. |
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| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Please send me a patch (or two) on the trinity-devel mailing list |
| kb9vqf | I'll look them over and if you want you can send them to GIT directly |
| kb9vqf | (once I've OKed them) |
| kb9vqf | Or if it is better for you I can commit them myself |
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| MutantTurkey | doode |
| MutantTurkey | where is tiM! |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: so Oracle changed their license for mysql |
| MutantTurkey | so does that mean we get to drop it? |
| MutantTurkey | though maybe not |
| l0ner | what license they changed it to? |
| MutantTurkey | not sure |
| MutantTurkey | they are changing it |
| MutantTurkey | though maybe not |
| MutantTurkey | seems the news feed is a bit dramatic... |
| l0ner | news are always dramatic |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| l0ner | and everything dependes on which license they will change current to |
| MutantTurkey | well I stinking hate oracle anyway. |
| * l0ner hates oracle too. | |
| MutantTurkey | they keep making bad decisions that I don't get. |
| MutantTurkey | Like libreOffice... If they only would have helped them out, donated the name, join in as a collaborter... it would have been great |
| l0ner | well, they have theirs business model which they keep |
| MutantTurkey | a corporation doesn't always have the best model to deal with open source |
| MutantTurkey | they hate it because there is no one to blame except for people who contribute for free, so they can't make demands |
| l0ner | and they are not fit in the open software movement |
| l0ner | yes, its like that |
| l0ner | and they have other reasons not to like open source software, but it's all politics which i don't want to even think about |
| MutantTurkey | Indeed |
| l0ner | damn. my kmail broken... |
| l0ner | it can's send mail |
| l0ner | *can't |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| l0ner | it throws me "Unknow transport protocol" error |
| l0ner | damn |
| MutantTurkey | did you change anything? |
| l0ner | nope |
| l0ner | but I think i messed a little with my system |
| l0ner | jumping back and forth between trinity 3.5.12 and 3.5.13 |
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| MutantTurkey | maybe so |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 519 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=519 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt3 - libjpeg issue |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 520 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=520 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt3 doesn't compiles without libXinerama headers |
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| Borg^Queen | hi anyone home? |
| Borg^Queen | kde is no longer placing icons on the desktop for usb devices |
| Borg^Queen | anyone have any suggestions? |
| MobileTurkey | hi |
| MobileTurkey | I am home :) but a bit late on the answer |
| MobileTurkey | Borg^Queen: what distro are you using? |
| MobileTurkey | seems HAL related, and since hal is deprecated, it is possible that your distro has removed it. |
| Borg^Queen | hi sorry |
| Borg^Queen | No hal, coldplug |
| Borg^Queen | it was working fine until a usb drive was pulled without unmounting |
| Borg^Queen | I also had 3 more drive on at the time |
| Borg^Queen | I umounted them and reinstalled the distro after I couldn't resolve it thinking Ihad damaged it |
| Borg^Queen | but it doesn't work |
| Borg^Queen | there's no hardware damage btw |
| Borg^Queen | when I google all I get are kde4 hate articles, they're useless |
| Borg^Queen | any ideas? |
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| Borg^Queen | hi anyone alive? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 521 filed by contact@philipashmore.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=521 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity networking breaks with network-manager 0.9 |
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| tbottu | 10michaelmartin007@hotmail.de changed the Status on bug 518 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=518 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Amarok-trinity by Clementine authors development. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 522 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=522 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, K3B has issue verifying burn |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 494 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=494 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, nspluginviewer fix in r1224648 fails with Adobe flash 10.3 and flash 11beta |
| Xu_R | sorry for delays... it's been a really rough week... climaxing today >_> |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: yea, they did the same thing to java. (i hate oracle i hate oracle i hate oracle :P) |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: oracle is terrble |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: and busy week eh? Me Tree. |
| MutantTurkey | three' |
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| KingSphinx | So what kind of stupid crap did Oracle pull now? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 519 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=519 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, qt3 - libjpeg issue |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: thanks for applying patch... what about bug #520? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=520 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt3 doesn't compiles without libXinerama headers |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Are you sure xim does not use Xinerama in any form? |
| kb9vqf | I can't find any references to Xinerama in the source so... |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 520 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=520 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, qt3 doesn't compiles without libXinerama headers |
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| Fat-Zer | thanks again... |
| Fat-Zer | kdm still doesn't works properly for me... |
| Fat-Zer | if i click shutdown in menu it hangs up. |
| Fat-Zer | but if i choose remote connections and then click shotdown it works ok. |
| Fat-Zer | strange... |
| Fat-Zer | tsak also doesn't work... |
| kb9vqf | well, keep debugging kdm :) |
| kb9vqf | as far as task goes it could be any number of things |
| Fat-Zer | does it uses hal or dbus? |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Neither--kernel devices only |
| kb9vqf | the code is very simple |
| Fat-Zer | i meen kdm |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea, sorry |
| kb9vqf | AFAIK it does not use HAL |
| kb9vqf | or DBUS for that matter |
| kb9vqf | but I could be wrong :) |
| KingSphinx | ...after reading the channel logs, it appears that the Clementine team was interested in helping TDE? |
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| Fat-Zer | is there any new internalization in trinity? |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: one more time about krootbacking, why are you moved it from kdeartwork? screensavers anyway won't work without kdeartwork/kscreansaver... |
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| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Because krootbacking is needed by ksmserver when ARGB visuals are active |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: found out the roots of my kdm issue... |
| Fat-Zer | if i'm clicking shotdown the window, that proposes varients appears on the background, under login box |
| Fat-Zer | but i don't know how to fix it... |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Does your KDM session use themes or is it the standard unthemed greeter? |
| Fat-Zer | seams it's a theme that's installs with kdm... a minute... |
| Fat-Zer | here it is: http://itmag.es/5SZvt |
| kb9vqf | I can replicate the problem now |
| Fat-Zer | oh... great =)... should i post a bug? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | I may have a fix very shortly |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Fixed in SVN revision 1255984. |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: howdy partner? What news hails from the west? |
| BQ-AFK | hey people, if all goes well, TDE may be included as the default (or as an option) for an Ark Linux release. |
| BQ-AFK | No promises but we are trying. |
| BQ-AFK | bbl |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: great! thanks... |
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| BQ-AFK | gn to all rather |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: another problem... if i chose shutdown->cancel i can't get focus to the password field... |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: kb9vqf: about cmake... as i sad i want help... i think i'll begin with kdeartwork... but want to start with? how to organise work? |
| Fat-Zer | or login... |
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| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: to get started you'll need a CMakeLists.txt and a ConfigureChecks.txt and a few other files I think |
| MutantTurkey | what you should do is look at how kdegraphics is done ( it's very simple mostly) |
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| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Are you running the modified code? |
| kb9vqf | The fix in SVN repairs both problems |
| kb9vqf | Hi MutantTurkey |
| kb9vqf | Not much time to chat now, but I thought I'd let you know I'm not dead ;-) |
| kb9vqf | BTW it might be a good idea to focus on repairing the bugs on the bugtracker so that we can get this next release out the door.... |
| MutantTurkey | I know. Laptop comes wednesday. |
| MutantTurkey | (tomorrow) then I will install debian and hack away |
| Xu_R|Zombie|Dead | (I am. I am dying in terms of grades and sleep DX) |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|Zombie|Dead: d00de me too. I am almost sure that I failed my chemistry exam. My prof loves to say " okay the chapters for the test are X Y and Z and then put stuff on from A B and C |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| Xu_R|Zombie|Dead | my physics teacher told us straight out that he's not teaching anything and we have a textbook ._." |
| Xu_R|Zombie|Dead | did I mention the hell that is called quest.cns.utexas.edu? X_X |
| MutantTurkey | oh boy |
| MutantTurkey | anyway. back to playing my old copy of star wars :P |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqfж YES, I'M RUNNING MODIFIED CODE... |
| Fat-Zer | sorry... caps... |
| Fat-Zer | strange... now everething is fine... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 523 filed by mario.fetka@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=523 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, moc & uic installed as moc-qt3 uic-qt3 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 524 filed by mario.fetka@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=524 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tqt interface with gcc 4.6 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 525 filed by mario.fetka@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=525 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, libgsl.a conflicts with "GNU Scientific Library" |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 526 filed by michaelmartin007@hotmail.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=526 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmix. Add widget to configure pulseaudio. Port veromix python code to TDE in c++. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 523 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=523 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, moc & uic installed as moc-qt3 uic-qt3 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 524 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=524 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tqt interface with gcc 4.6 |
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| MutantTurkey | blooper |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: got my laptop! |
| kb9vqf | so you can fix bugs now? :) |
| MobileTurkey | installing debian tonight. |
| MobileTurkey | I have a new years party at my girlfriends familys house thats going to run late |
| MobileTurkey | but after that... |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: installing debian now. |
| MutantTurkey | any advice on dual booting w7? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: hitting some walls... the install is kicking my butt |
| kb9vqf | ?? |
| MutantTurkey | the whole keeping W7 + archlinux is confusing |
| MutantTurkey | really badly docmented suprisinly |
| MutantTurkey | going to try booting into ubuntu now |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 525 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=525 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, libgsl.a conflicts with "GNU Scientific Library" |
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| MutantTurkey | :| |
| MutantTurkey | W7 is a real PITA because it has used up 3 partitions on its own |
| MutantTurkey | only can have 4 partitions without using extended partitions.... |
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| tbottu | 10michaelmartin007@hotmail.de marked bug 526 as a duplicate of bug 490. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=526 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, kmix. Add widget to configure pulseaudio. Port veromix python code to TDE in c++. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=490 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, adding support for PulseAudio application volume control |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 527 filed by mario.fetka@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=527 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Extra Translations |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 528 filed by mario.fetka@gmail.com. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=528 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt kde integration |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: getting going still. have no fear |
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| fos | Are the nightly lucid builds currently working? I wanted to test the changes from rev 1255984 (the KDM dialog not appearing), but it doesn't seem to be built yet... |
| kb9vqf | The supercomputer that the nightly builds run on is currently allocated to another task |
| kb9vqf | Nightly builds should resume in the next couple of days |
| kb9vqf | remember that time on the build computer is donated to the project when it would otherwise be idle ;-) |
| fos | ah, thanks! |
| kb9vqf | np |
| fos | another question: kdelibs/kdeprint/kmvirtualmanager.cpp +182 points to the wrong file |
| fos | /.cups/.lpoptions should be /.cups/lpoptions instead |
| kb9vqf | looks like a simple oversight |
| fos | line 308 points to the correct file ;-) |
| kb9vqf | I can fix that real quick |
| fos | should I open a bug report for this? |
| kb9vqf | no, I'll fix it now |
| fos | thx! |
| kb9vqf | fos: Fixed in SVN revision 1256361, thanks for letting me know... |
| fos | np, it was quite annoying not to be able to use a default printer, so I'm glad it's fixed ;-) |
| fos | another thing in my patch list: in kdebase/kioslave/media/mediamanager/halbackend.cpp settings in mediamanagerrc are specific for a single device |
| fos | are there any reasons against adding a [Global] group, containing settings for all devices? |
| kb9vqf | No, it just wasn't implemented |
| kb9vqf | Patches are welcome :) |
| fos | does it have to contain a GUI? ;-) |
| kb9vqf | No, not at this point |
| kb9vqf | Once the backend is in place someone can add the GUI later |
| fos | ok, I think I'll create a patch then ;-) |
| kb9vqf | This was done all throughout KDE develpoment |
| kb9vqf | OK |
| kb9vqf | :) |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: well I have installed ubuntu, it is quite absymal. time to install trinity! :D |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | Linux these days is quite abysmal, isn't it? :-P |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: seriously terrible. |
| MutantTurkey | nope arch is awesome |
| kb9vqf | arch isn't useing the latest software |
| MutantTurkey | it didn't add me to the sudoers file, or give me the root password to set. how am I supposed to update? |
| kb9vqf | *using |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ...... |
| MutantTurkey | it is |
| MutantTurkey | ubuntu isn't |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| MutantTurkey | ubuntu is still on 2.6 kernel :) |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| * kb9vqf runs kernels from the mainline | |
| MutantTurkey | yeah, arch is sometimes a little to gung ho about updating and we get some problems |
| kb9vqf | 3.0.4 here :0 |
| MutantTurkey | but ususally nothing more than a quick downgrade |
| kb9vqf | it should have added you to the sudoers file |
| kb9vqf | you should be able to "sudo passwd" |
| kb9vqf | I thought even the latest versions of Unity/Gnome and KDE4 were quite bad.... |
| MutantTurkey | nope... |
| MutantTurkey | i had to drop to fallback shell and modify it |
| MutantTurkey | I can't imagine a basic user having to deal wit hthat |
| kb9vqf | ugh |
| kb9vqf | that's why I make the Trinity LiveCDs |
| kb9vqf | but it is a lot of effort...I have not yet been able to automate that process |
| MutantTurkey | yeah. |
| MutantTurkey | I could make Trinity/Arch CD's |
| MutantTurkey | we have a nice framework for automating cd builds |
| kb9vqf | that would be cool |
| MutantTurkey | anyway now I need to get rid of ubuntu hell and add trinity |
| kb9vqf | check the mailing list |
| kb9vqf | I can get you the link I suppose |
| MutantTurkey | isn't it just in the website? |
| kb9vqf | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::1368 |
| kb9vqf | You probably want to use the nightly builds |
| kb9vqf | and not the archaic packages from 3.5.12 |
| kb9vqf | BTW I strongly recommend you use the 3.0.4 kernel from the mainline PPA |
| kb9vqf | It is so wonderful compared to the default kernel ;-) |
| kb9vqf | so stable.... |
| MutantTurkey | of course I use it... |
| MutantTurkey | wait what is the PPA? |
| MutantTurkey | I mean on arcvh at least. I am finding it to work well, though not all the power regressions are fixed :[ |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: so how do I use the daily builds? |
| kb9vqf | see the link I poseted above |
| kb9vqf | *posted |
| kb9vqf | and here's the kernel PPA (personal package archive): http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0.4-oneiric/ |
| MutantTurkey | okay thanks |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::1368 |
| MutantTurkey | that seems to just be a link to the ttf message |
| kb9vqf | uhhh...no |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Scroll down |
| kb9vqf | you will see some long text lines |
| kb9vqf | follow the instructions that wrap those lines of text ;-) |
| kb9vqf | also make sure you have copied the entire URL |
| MutantTurkey | my internet is being funky, oh okay got it! |
| MutantTurkey | awesome |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: something about pubke |
| kb9vqf | ignore it |
| MutantTurkey | signatures couldn't be verified... |
| MutantTurkey | okay cool |
| kb9vqf | known issue on the nightlies |
| MutantTurkey | its funny because arch is just getting signed packages |
| MutantTurkey | in the last year |
| kb9vqf | :eek: |
| MutantTurkey | but I don't see it as a big issue |
| kb9vqf | It is actually |
| MutantTurkey | I know thats what they say |
| kb9vqf | it would be very easy to hack a mirror and inject virus-ridden packages |
| MutantTurkey | I only use mirrors I trust though |
| kb9vqf | the project maintainer probably wouldn't even know |
| MutantTurkey | anyway, It's all theoretical because it's never happened |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | but with kernel.org hacked... |
| * kb9vqf runs scared | |
| MutantTurkey | I know |
| kb9vqf | anyway the main release uses correct signatures |
| MutantTurkey | good |
| kb9vqf | the problem is only with the nightlies |
| MutantTurkey | I am not a big netsec person at all |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | I have to be given the equipment in use here |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | and security is a bit of a hobby... |
| kb9vqf | (for me that is) |
| kb9vqf | I was laughing the other day when it was revealed the Sony hacks used SQL injection |
| kb9vqf | seiously?? |
| kb9vqf | on a big global system like that? |
| kb9vqf | :)) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | thats embarassing |
| kb9vqf | no kidding |
| MutantTurkey | but thats all these "hackers" can do |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MutantTurkey | they just sql inject and pretend they are amazing |
| kb9vqf | i mean with PHP there is no excuse for that |
| MutantTurkey | therefore I run NO sql db's and load static files. |
| kb9vqf | it's like leaving buffer overflow vulnerable code in place in modern apps |
| kb9vqf | this is 2011, not 1990 |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah which is also embarassing (adobe flash) |
| kb9vqf | grrr |
| kb9vqf | I'm just waiting for the world's first GPU virus to come out of that |
| kb9vqf | actually that would be pretty scary |
| MutantTurkey | yeah seriously. |
| kb9vqf | the GPU can poke memory just like the CPU can |
| kb9vqf | :eek: |
| * MutantTurkey hides | |
| MutantTurkey | who mirrors all of this? |
| kb9vqf | If that happens we will need separate main computers and terminals again :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: which is the way we are going anyways... |
| MutantTurkey | back to the cloud |
| kb9vqf | University of Idaho, and an IT professional in Eurpoe |
| kb9vqf | *Europe |
| kb9vqf | There is a third mirror but it is offline ATM |
| kb9vqf | ah, but the cloud is all about some third party holding your data hostage while you pony up lots of $$$$ |
| kb9vqf | no thanks |
| kb9vqf | *private* clouds I could get into |
| kb9vqf | where the infrastructure is hosted on private equipment with open source software |
| kb9vqf | i.e. fully owned by the user |
| kb9vqf | anyway, back on topic... :) |
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| fos | another question: would should be done with translations of new strings? |
| fos | We have translated a few of them (i.e. those that our users usually see ;-)) to German and generated new .po files... |
| kb9vqf | upload the new .po files to a bug report |
| kb9vqf | I will merge them into the existing translations in SVN |
| kb9vqf | I think the .po file is sufficient; if not I will request another file in the bug report :) |
| fos | ok :-) |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: got it running |
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| MobileTurkey | still ubuntu is terrible. |
| kb9vqf | Even with Trinity?? |
| MobileTurkey | well a vast improvement... |
| MobileTurkey | still getting all my settings and such |
| MobileTurkey | amarok can't do music over fish:// darn |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: bluetooth is broken too also? |
| MobileTurkey | everything else is working well |
| kb9vqf | bluetooth is broken, yes |
| kb9vqf | you can blame libbluez |
| kb9vqf | and the fact that I have no bluetooth hardware :-P |
| kb9vqf | they changed the API |
| MobileTurkey | I have bluetooth hardware |
| MobileTurkey | now |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | well feel free to port the existing bluetooth service to the new libbluez API... |
| kb9vqf | it will have to be reenabled in CMakeLists.txt or Makefile.am for building |
| MobileTurkey | I will look at the API changes |
| MobileTurkey | I am mostly unfamiliar with Bluetooth ( only have it now on my laptop and phone) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MobileTurkey | but I could poke around |
| MobileTurkey | what functionality did it previously offer? |
| kb9vqf | I think file browsing |
| kb9vqf | not sure |
| kb9vqf | it has been broken for a few years now |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | and is Power managerment broken? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | it works fine, but needs HAL |
| MobileTurkey | can I do that with ubuntu? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MobileTurkey | cool |
| kb9vqf | apt-get install hal-trinity |
| MobileTurkey | I might just have to switch over to debian tbh |
| MobileTurkey | ubuntu is terrible... |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: is there some sort of trinity-extras package as well? |
| kb9vqf | you can use Debian, that's fine |
| kb9vqf | and no I dont' have a package like that |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: okay just wondering |
| kb9vqf | Remember the project is based in the United States |
| kb9vqf | so I have to be extra careful :) |
| MobileTurkey | oh no not like the "extras" from ubuntu |
| MobileTurkey | like this: intsall package "gnome:" would give me the basic desktop "gnome-extras" would give me all the other little apps and programs that gnome project has |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| kb9vqf | yes :) |
| kb9vqf | kubuntu-default-settings-trinity |
| kb9vqf | IIRC |
| kb9vqf | or it might be something else... |
| kb9vqf | do a search in Synaptic for kubuntu and trinity |
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| schreiberstein | Hello! |
| MobileTurkey | hey schreiberstein |
| MobileTurkey | how goes it |
| schreiberstein | I'm fine! And you? |
| MobileTurkey | I am well. What brings you here? |
| schreiberstein | I just read that there is a trinity irc channel. Os i was just checking if it exists :-D |
| schreiberstein | And, of course, I'm using trinity |
| MobileTurkey | And, of course, we do exist! |
| MobileTurkey | :) |
| schreiberstein | :-D |
| schreiberstein | That'S great! |
| MobileTurkey | schreiberstein: How long have you been using trinity? |
| schreiberstein | round about 1 month. |
| schreiberstein | On my homeserver |
| schreiberstein | It's really cool |
| MobileTurkey | thanks! |
| MobileTurkey | are you finding it useful? |
| schreiberstein | yep. |
| schreiberstein | it'S the best desktop environment |
| schreiberstein | and everything worked out of the box. |
| MobileTurkey | :) indeed it is. |
| MobileTurkey | sweet. what distrobution are you running it on? |
| schreiberstein | Ubuntu 10.04 |
| schreiberstein | It's a pain on arch linux.. |
| schreiberstein | Buggy on arch. |
| MobileTurkey | schreiberstein: I know :) I am actually the guy who is working on it... |
| MobileTurkey | so that's a slap in the face, well deserved. |
| schreiberstein | no! |
| schreiberstein | no worries! |
| MobileTurkey | I've been trying to pull together packages but you know, arch is rather, bleeding edge |
| schreiberstein | yep. |
| MobileTurkey | schreiberstein: I am a big arch lover though. |
| schreiberstein | arch sucks sometimes. |
| MobileTurkey | i would just like to have the best environment (trinity) on the best distro (arch) |
| MobileTurkey | :D |
| schreiberstein | well... arch isn'T the best distro.. well.. i love pacman + all the great arch stuff... |
| schreiberstein | but there is no good desktop environment available atm. |
| schreiberstein | gnome 2 -> trashed ; kde3 -> trashed (official) |
| schreiberstein | and lots of thing didn'T work... automount... etc.. |
| schreiberstein | that's annoying... |
| schreiberstein | so... i'm using ubuntu :-) |
| schreiberstein | trinity works great on it.. and it'S super stable |
| MobileTurkey | I agree with you thatmost of the large DEs are stinky |
| schreiberstein | MobileTurkey: What OS are you using? |
| schreiberstein | *do you use |
| MobileTurkey | schreiberstein: I use archlinux |
| MobileTurkey | for trinity development/testing I am using Ubuntu |
| MobileTurkey | in fact I am just getting it setup on my new laptop and am not really liking it to much |
| MobileTurkey | Ubuntu is a bit of a pain with apt-get |
| schreiberstein | yep.. pacman is much faster + simpler |
| MobileTurkey | oh totally |
| MobileTurkey | and ubuntu is just getting less and less linuxy by the release |
| MobileTurkey | the new unity interface feels like a crappy mac ripoff |
| schreiberstein | MobileTurkey: I can't start trinity SVN on arch x86_64. It stucks at ksplash |
| kb9vqf | What we need is Debian with more up to date packages...hmmm....like Ubuntu originally was :- |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| MobileTurkey | schreiberstein: wait do you have packages? |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: yep |
| MobileTurkey | or are you just doing manual compilation |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: yep yep yep yep. I remember ubuntu 7.10 and I was thinking "wow this is awesome!" |
| schreiberstein | MobileTurkey: No.. I'm using the repo : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Binary_Packages_-_From_Trinity_SVN_Code |
| MobileTurkey | ... |
| MobileTurkey | Oh crap |
| MobileTurkey | I forgot that David Rankin made a wiki page |
| MobileTurkey | schreiberstein: yes, those won't work anymore, Inface they haven't been updated since about march, when david sort of dropped off the radar |
| schreiberstein | So i used the kdemod3 rebuild of elvaka... |
| MobileTurkey | elvaka? |
| MobileTurkey | kdemod is dead though yes? |
| schreiberstein | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=97612 |
| MobileTurkey | I cannot find my glasses, they have been missing a few weeks. |
| MobileTurkey | I am practically blind :| |
| schreiberstein | He rebuilt kdemod3 with trinity sources. |
| MobileTurkey | is it updated? |
| schreiberstein | oh dear! |
| schreiberstein | i guess yes. |
| * kb9vqf reminds everyone to keep bad language off the channel! | |
| schreiberstein | kb9vqf: Who said something bad? |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey |
| kb9vqf | He's been using bad words for some time now :-P |
| kb9vqf | not you :) |
| schreiberstein | kb9vqf: BTW. Thank you for repairing the ttf-bitstream-vera problem :-) |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | glad to get these "minor" fixes into SVN--it will improve the quality of the finished product immensely |
| kb9vqf | *they will |
| MobileTurkey | definitely |
| schreiberstein | kb9vqf: I'm from germany and i see a lot of english sentences in trinity. Can I help with translating? I'm not a programmer atm. |
| MobileTurkey | I've got Rosh Hashanah dinner at my girlfriends. round 2 |
| MobileTurkey | i'll be back late |
| kb9vqf | schreiberstein: You should be able to open the .po files from the i18n folder in SVN with KBabel |
| kb9vqf | Translate the strings and attach the fixed .po file to a new bug report |
| kb9vqf | fos may be able to help you out |
| kb9vqf | if you ask nicely :) |
| schreiberstein | .. of course :-D |
| schreiberstein | ..that sounds easy... i'll do that :-) |
| fos | I'm currently merging the translation of kdesktop.po, kicker.po and kio_media.po |
| fos | but I'd be glad to have someone to discuss the translation ;-) |
| fos | (especially as I haven't found some of the strings in the GUI and have no idea about their context ;-)) |
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| schreiberstein | fos: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kde-i18n/ <-- This one? |
| fos | yes, that seems to be the same one as the file included in the Ubuntu source package |
| schreiberstein | fos: Thank you! |
| fos | schreiberstein: I've uploaded my current progress to www.mediafire.com/?w21ux4mi0va6l |
| schreiberstein | fos: thx! |
| fos | going to bed now :-) |
| schreiberstein | fos: Sleep well! |
| fos | txh! |
| fos | thx |
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| schreiberstein | are there plans for updating konqueror to support newer websites? |
| schreiberstein | Need some sleep... 0:50 AM ... |
| schreiberstein | Good night everyone! |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: all is well now |
| MobileTurkey | except that alt+f2 doesn't show the run command thing. |
| kb9vqf | set the shortcut for it in the control center... |
| MobileTurkey | okay :) |
| MobileTurkey | excellent |
| MobileTurkey | Well now I have a highly functional desktop |
| MobileTurkey | well gettng there :) |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: another thing on my list is definitely setting up better touchpad settings |
| kb9vqf | There should be a mouse module in the control center... |
| MobileTurkey | Yes, doesn't cover what I need |
| MobileTurkey | like multitouch |
| MobileTurkey | but that is expected |
| MobileTurkey | even Unity has flaky settings for it |
| MobileTurkey | gotta reboot and see if kdm is working well |
| MobileTurkey | bbs |
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| MutantTu1key | kb9vqf: back to good old arch :) |
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| KingSphinx | Question about the nightly repos... does the entire DE get updated every day or is it bits and pieces? |
| kb9vqf | only that which has changed in SVN since the last build |
| kb9vqf | i.e. if only kdebase received commits only kdebase would be rebuilt |
| kb9vqf | also, right now the build farm is being used for other tasks (it is on loan from a business who has donated the idle time to the Trinity project) |
| kb9vqf | so nightly builds are not-so-nightly ATM |
| KingSphinx | lol |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| KingSphinx | If I feel brave enough, I'll try nightlies, but right now I still feel like waiting for 3.5.13 to officially release. |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | well, 3.5.13 won't release until a) we get more people testing the nightlies, which should be considered beta versions, and b) there are more bugs fixed on the bugtracker |
| KingSphinx | And by the way, I've ditched KDE 4 again... kinda hard to really call a desktop usable when doing something like exiting Kopete causes the whole desktop to crash. >_>; |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | I'm not surprised |
| kb9vqf | the underlying architecture in KDE4 is seriously flawed |
| KingSphinx | So it's back to GNOME/Unity for me for now. |
| kb9vqf | all plasma "apps" share the same Linux process AFAIK |
| kb9vqf | so if one goes down the whole desktop goes down |
| KingSphinx | Well, that's kinda dumb. |
| KingSphinx | At least split it up into "core" Plasma stuff and then "the rest" (for lack of a better term) |
| kb9vqf | yeah, but still |
| kb9vqf | dumb dumb dumb |
| kb9vqf | not only that, it has to be a security nightmare |
| kb9vqf | what prevents one app from poking the memory of another one? |
| kb9vqf | and stealing login credentials, putting up spam social network posts, etc. |
| kb9vqf | I dunno |
| kb9vqf | looks like 0 thought went into that design decision |
| kb9vqf | more of an "it just evolved that way" kind of thing :-P |
| KingSphinx | Hence the benefits of making "fancy" stuff separate processes. I mean, SuperKaramba didn't even come with 3.x, you had to install it yourself IIRC. |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | and it was NEVER an integral part of the desktop |
| kb9vqf | the desktop must be as secure as possible |
| kb9vqf | adding plasma makes it inherently insecure |
| kb9vqf | so...I can't use KDE4 in my business for security reasons alone :-P |
| kb9vqf | let alone the lost productivity, etc. |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | this is why Trinity is available |
| kb9vqf | I do wish KDE4 had cleaned up their act with 4.0 though |
| KingSphinx | Speaking of which (SuperKaramba and the like), I couldn't for the life of me remember how to do stuff like install Compiz in Trinity. I remember doing it once, but it somehow borked my graphics driver and I was forced to migrate to Fedora for a while. |
| kb9vqf | ahh |
| kb9vqf | well, I recommend installing fusion-icon |
| kb9vqf | that should pull in compiz and give you a tool to enable compiz |
| kb9vqf | fusion-icon-trinity actually |
| KingSphinx | Noted for future referen- wait, fusion-icon's already installed. Well, that's one step out of the way, at least. |
| kb9vqf | BTW Trinity has its own built-in and highly integrated compositor in the latest nightly builds :) |
| kb9vqf | it doesn't do nearly as much eye candy as Compiz, but it does enable ARGB mode and you can run window fades and other basic stuff |
| KingSphinx | You got Trinity to do its own compositing now? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | and it's so much easier to set up than Compiz :-P |
| kb9vqf | (it doesn't do nearly as much, but hey, it just works :)) |
| KingSphinx | sshh, don't let Apple hear you say "it just works" :P |
| kb9vqf | it works out of the box? |
| kb9vqf | actually it needs more testing (hint hint) |
| kb9vqf | Intel and nVidia seem to work pretty well |
| kb9vqf | as well as ATI |
| kb9vqf | I think there are only a couple of minor glitches left |
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| Xu_R|School | hey MobileTurkey |
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| MutantTurkey1 | kb9vqf: still havent figured out the power managerment dealio |
| MutantTurkey1 | kb9vqf: looking at the bluez api right now |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 36 from kdebase to debian. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=36 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, UNCONFIRMED, Upgrading kdm-kde3 resets the default login manager to gdm |
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| schreiberstein | Hello! |
| schreiberstein | Nobody @ /home ? |
| fos | only if [ "`readlink /home`" == "/work" ] ;-) |
| schreiberstein | lol |
| fos | schreiberstein: I guess you haven't tried to rebuild the translation packages yet, have you? |
| schreiberstein | fos: No. But i downloaded them and viewed them with kbabel. |
| schreiberstein | I'm working at my LFS + setting up my homeserver --> Not much time |
| fos | no problem, I'm just interested because I don't get the packages to compile any more... |
| schreiberstein | i never built packages on ubuntu. seems to be really complicated. i'm working with arch linux' pacman pkgmanager |
| fos | building on Ubuntu is ok if you have a proper build setup :-) |
| fos | though I personally also prefer simpler packaging systems ;-) |
| schreiberstein | :-) |
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| Space_Man | I'm updating kubuntu 11.04 with the nightly builds, which default display manager should I pick kdm-kde3 or kdm-trinity? |
| kb9vqf | kdm-trinity |
| Space_Man | thanks |
| kb9vqf | np |
| Space_Man | adept sat still for about 30 minutes claiming it was 'preparing' |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| kb9vqf | well, it is alarge upgrade... |
| Space_Man | when I pressed show details there was a screen asking for my choice :P |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| Space_Man | 192 packages, 261MB |
| kb9vqf | well, Adept is not the best application unfortunately |
| kb9vqf | the guy who designed it needed to think more about the user interface :-P |
| * Space_Man likes the user interface | |
| Space_Man | it is nice and simple |
| Space_Man | I do ignore all the tags |
| kb9vqf | well, it's the little things |
| kb9vqf | like the problem you mentioned above |
| kb9vqf | that and the fact that it pops up an error if any package fails to install |
| kb9vqf | the problem there is that if you click OK it forcibly terminates the upgrade :-P |
| kb9vqf | which can easily create a bigger mess than if you did NOT click OK |
| Space_Man | it also crashes a lot :( |
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| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: are you working on PKGBUILDs? |
| MutantTurkey | if you look on our git (git.trinitydesktop.org there is some work from a few people under arch) |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: No. I'm not interested in arch anymore cause i'm doing a linux from scratch ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | oh cool |
| MutantTurkey | LFS is a fun project to learn |
| MutantTurkey | not to good in long term |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: ?! It is! Use pacman packager and it's like arch. |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: Of course it's a lot of work... |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: But it'S going to be a little distribution later on... |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: And i'll build trinity packages for it... later ;-) |
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| MutantTurkey1 | anyone recall how to register nicks? |
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| MutantTurkey | okay :D |
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| MobileTurkey | anyone seen Piki in a while? |
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| KingSphinx | I honestly can't believe it's almost time for Onieric... hard to believe it's been a year since TDE's had a major (public) upgrade. |
| KingSphinx | I know, I know, testers/feedback/devs, but I'd just thought I'd note it. |
| kb9vqf | I know, I know :-P |
| kb9vqf | Right now its BUGS |
| kb9vqf | we can't seem to get anyone here to focus on repairing the bugs on the bugtracker |
| kb9vqf | I guess the worst case is that we release 3.5.12 as-is, then force a 3.5.13 and 3.5.14 instead of 3.5.13 and 3.6.0 |
| kb9vqf | i.e. insert a bugfix release into the release schedule |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R|Tired, MutantTurkey: Any chance of fixing some bugs or are we going to have to do this? ^^^^^^^ |
| Xu_R|Tired | I'm sorry, I've been dead literally all month DX |
| Xu_R|Tired | i've even thrown notepad++ on the school comp so that I can work on packaging during free periods :( sorry |
| KingSphinx | I don't do programming, but Notepad++ is the best text editor for Windows, hands-down. |
| KingSphinx | Also, as-is? You mean release an 11.10 variant with the ol' 3.5.12? |
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| cpatrick008 | i was wondering if you were going to make a natty iso or skip it and make a oneiric iso |
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| kb9vqf | no, as-is means the current state of the code in SVN |
| kb9vqf | we can't build 3.5.12 for anything higher than Maverick |
| Z_God | 3.5.12 for maverick runs fine on natty at least |
| Z_God | you only need to add the universe or updates or smth repos from maverick to satisfy all the dependencies, but then it will just install and work |
| Z_God | I hope to look at kmozilla again this weekend btw, I moved countries and started at uni there so I was a bit busy last week |
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| schreiberstein | Hello! |
| schreiberstein | ...another problem : http://pastebin.com/b2kdpVC2 |
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| Z_God | schreiberstein: you ran apt-get update ? |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: I can imagine you don't know anything about GTK, but still maybe you can give a hint again :) |
| kb9vqf | possibly...I did work with gtk before... |
| Z_God | I found that the problem I now have is that the function called at lin 150 in this file: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebindings/xparts/src/gtk/gtkpart.c?view=markup |
| Z_God | hangs |
| Z_God | line* |
| Z_God | it's probably a callback that's failing |
| Z_God | unfortunately there is not much documentation on mozilla's gtkembed stuff |
| kb9vqf | attach to the stuck process with gdb |
| kb9vqf | then press ctrl+c |
| kb9vqf | and type bt |
| kb9vqf | that will tell you exactly where it is stuck and why |
| Z_God | hmm, I wonder if that's possible... |
| kb9vqf | well...maybe not why...but where for sure :) |
| Z_God | things seems to get killed because of this hang |
| kb9vqf | yes, just run ps aux and find your stuck process |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| kb9vqf | you could theoretically send SIGSTOP to the process before it is killed |
| kb9vqf | I assume it takes a second or so to kill? |
| Z_God | less I'd say ... |
| kb9vqf | if so you might be able to pipe the pid of the process to the kill program |
| Z_God | everything runs quite fast |
| Z_God | ;) |
| kb9vqf | e.g. with kill SIGSTOP `ps aux | grep mozblah | awk 'print something'` |
| kb9vqf | you would have to fill in the blahs and the sigstop signal number ;-) |
| Z_God | maybe I could put a debug break before that call? |
| kb9vqf | you can force a process to send SIGSTOP to itself |
| Z_God | and then step through? |
| kb9vqf | I have used that trick many times :) |
| Z_God | ok? |
| kb9vqf | it works very well |
| kb9vqf | you then just look for the stopped process (state T IIRC) |
| kb9vqf | and attach with gdb |
| Z_God | I think this code is part of the kmozilla binary that is built in the end |
| Z_God | ah no |
| Z_God | it's the lib |
| Z_God | libgtkxparts |
| kb9vqf | here's the code: raise(SIGSTOP); |
| kb9vqf | if you send that signal then the parent process will stop |
| kb9vqf | and you can still debug it |
| kb9vqf | remember that methods in libraries are executed just the same as regular programs ;-) |
| kb9vqf | and if you raise SIGSTOP the program that uses the library will stop and wait for you to send SIGCONT |
| kb9vqf | or attach to it with GDB and continue |
| kb9vqf | make sense? |
| Z_God | it's hanging now |
| Z_God | the kmozilla process is still alive :) |
| kb9vqf | a ps aux should reveal that it is in state T |
| kb9vqf | i.e. stopped |
| Z_God | yep :) |
| kb9vqf | great! |
| kb9vqf | now attach with gdb |
| Z_God | done |
| Z_God | had to run gdb as root though |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | that makes sense |
| kb9vqf | there are security restrictions in place by default |
| Z_God | and I'm downloading the xulrunner debug symbols now, so I may have to redo this in a sec |
| kb9vqf | now you should be able to type 'c' and have the program continue to termination, or type 'n' and single step to the next line of code |
| Z_God | ah |
| Z_God | kmozilla segfaults it seems |
| kb9vqf | and now type 'bt' |
| kb9vqf | that will tell you why :) |
| kb9vqf | or rather where the execption happened, and you can probably figure out why pretty easily from the stack trace |
| Z_God | I'm getting a huge stack trace now (with xulrunner symbols now) |
| Z_God | http://pastebin.com/9JEvinZr |
| kb9vqf | Is this your code? |
| kb9vqf | gtkmozembed2.cpp |
| Z_God | no, I think it's mozilla's code |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbugs.debian.org%2F578109&rct=j&q=gtkmozembed2.cpp%3A490&ei=imuHTsmkAaSosQLyrvW1Dw&usg=AFQjCNEKpSuJU6OKvLJDz-lhJ83Jehsl-g&sig2=LAgqUbbh7z997FHtK4P27w |
| kb9vqf | or rather http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=578109 |
| kb9vqf | ah darn, they removed gtkmozembed in version 5.0 |
| kb9vqf | so this is a dead end |
| Z_God | version 5.0 of what? |
| Z_God | I have xulrunner version 1.9.2 here |
| kb9vqf | firefox I think |
| kb9vqf | Here's something that might help: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=205499#c7 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 205499: was not found. |
| kb9vqf | but either way unless we can get this working and get gtkmozembed back into Firefox this is a dead end |
| kb9vqf | I can't find too much more about gtkmozembed's demise |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| Z_God | I guess yep... but I will still try some things |
| Z_God | firefox here is also version 3.6 |
| kb9vqf | well, I say since you are close just make it work |
| kb9vqf | if you can :) |
| kb9vqf | maybe gtkmozembed can be built separately |
| * kb9vqf hates Linux and their constant removal of useful stuff | |
| Z_God | I will at least look for the mozilla developer irc channel & ask there |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Z_God | I also found this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=531335 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 531335: was not found. |
| Z_God | ah that's in another file |
| Z_God | ah no, I was looking in the wrong file ... |
| Z_God | mNavigation->SetSessionHistory(mSessionHistory); this is the segfaulting line... |
| Z_God | looks innocent enough to me |
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| Z_God | it seems this compreg file may indeed be related, I'm searching my homedir now for copies of that file |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: it's sort of working !!! |
| kb9vqf | cool! |
| Z_God | kmozilla opens in a separate window |
| Z_God | it's not embedded |
| Z_God | but it actually renders the page I had open in konq |
| kb9vqf | well that could be the Trinity embedding code I suppose |
| Z_God | something changed? |
| kb9vqf | how embedding works is that Trinity has to take the existing window and "stuff" it into the Konqueror window |
| kb9vqf | no, nothing changed |
| kb9vqf | I'm just letting you know where to look next :) |
| Z_God | ah :) |
| Z_God | it actually turned out I had to set another environment variable |
| kb9vqf | so to finish my thought, if for some reason the "stuffing" function is not called, then the window would pop up on its own |
| kb9vqf | instead of being embedded |
| kb9vqf | look for any Xlib BadWindow errors on the console |
| Z_God | (kmozilla:14084): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_create_pango_context ()) called without screen |
| Z_God | I get that one a few times |
| kb9vqf | don't think that would be it |
| kb9vqf | do the navigation controls work? |
| Z_God | I will disable gtk debugging now |
| kb9vqf | i.e. back, forward, refresh, etc? |
| Z_God | probably not, they didn't work 10 years ago either |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| Z_God | no, there are no errors at all |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | look in the code that gets the window id |
| kb9vqf | somewhere, somehow something has to get the window ID and pass it to the window embedding function |
| kb9vqf | usually the window ID is stored in a variable of type Window |
| kb9vqf | (case sensitive) |
| Z_God | I saw a lot of that code yep |
| kb9vqf | does it use QXEmbed? |
| kb9vqf | actually, can you point me to a WebSVN file and line number? |
| Z_God | one sec, I now have the windowid on the gtk side |
| Z_God | this is passed to the kde kpart using a dcop call |
| kb9vqf | makes sens |
| kb9vqf | then the kde kpart has to actually embed that window ID |
| kb9vqf | that's where QXEmbed might be used |
| kb9vqf | and QXEmbed *might* have changed in the last 10 years ;-) |
| Z_God | I found the code on the kde side, I'll get the svn url now |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Z_God | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebindings/xparts/src/kde/xparthost_kpart.cpp?view=markup |
| Z_God | line 47 |
| kb9vqf | can you verify that line 47 is actualyl being called? |
| kb9vqf | e.g. with a prinf() and fflush()? |
| kb9vqf | *printf |
| Z_God | sure, sec |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | it's called |
| kb9vqf | with a valid window ID? |
| kb9vqf | print the window ID in hex and make sure it isn't 0 ir something :) |
| kb9vqf | *or |
| kb9vqf | actually decimal is OK too |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | the ID is correct |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| Z_God | it's the same as the one that's printed earlier |
| kb9vqf | does anything show up in the Konqueror pane? |
| Z_God | no, it stays empty |
| Z_God | when I click a link |
| Z_God | the status bar gets updated that it's loading that page |
| Z_God | and the URL bar changes |
| Z_God | to the new URL |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | The only thing I can think of off the bat is a protocol problem |
| kb9vqf | Here's the QXEmbed header: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/docs/trinity/current/kdelibs/kdeui/html/qxembed_8h_source.html |
| kb9vqf | not much documentation to go with it I'm afraid |
| kb9vqf | Can you please verify that the popup Mozilla window has the same window ID as is printed from your debug statments? |
| kb9vqf | IIRC there is a utility that can get the window ID of any window you click on |
| kb9vqf | let me find it |
| Z_God | ok, maybe in xutils? |
| kb9vqf | xwininfo |
| kb9vqf | run it on the command line, click on the Mozilla window, and view the results from the command line |
| kb9vqf | note you will need to print the window ID in hex from the kpart ;-) |
| kb9vqf | hence my hex comment earlier |
| kb9vqf | if they are the same (the kpart printf() and the results of xwininfo) then the problem must lie in the QXEmbed interface |
| kb9vqf | but I need to be sure :) |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | they are the same |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 529 filed by patrick@serru.net. |
| Z_God | I was indeed printing both hex & decimal |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=529 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Logout disfunction (10.10 Trinity-ent.) |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: Well, you could try switching the embedding protocol I suppose |
| kb9vqf | setProtocol(XEMBED); |
| kb9vqf | before the embed() call |
| Z_God | ok, let me try that |
| kb9vqf | I don't know which one is default :-P |
| Z_God | seems I need to add another header for that |
| kb9vqf | You shouldn't... |
| kb9vqf | what's the compilation error? |
| kb9vqf | Also, here's some more API information: http://api.kde.org/3.1-api/classref/kdeui/QXEmbed.html#longdesc |
| Z_God | xparthost_kpart.cpp: In member function ‘virtual DCOPRef XPartHost_KPart::registerXPart(const DCOPRef&)’: |
| Z_God | xparthost_kpart.cpp:50: error: ‘XEMBED’ was not declared in this scope |
| Z_God | xparthost_kpart.cpp:50: error: ‘setProtocol’ was not declared in this scope |
| kb9vqf | well, you need to do it differently |
| kb9vqf | First, why don't you try this |
| kb9vqf | See what embed->embeddedWinId() returns |
| Z_God | ok |
| kb9vqf | AFTER embed->embed() was called |
| kb9vqf | it should return the same window ID |
| kb9vqf | if not then the embedding failed |
| Z_God | yep, it's 0 |
| kb9vqf | also, the C++ syntax for the protocol switch would be embed->setProtocol(QXEmbed::XEMBED); |
| kb9vqf | and that line has to go BEFORE the embed->embed() call |
| Z_God | I'll try that now |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | leave the other debug statement in ;-) |
| Z_God | it doesn't seem to work |
| Z_God | so now XPLAIN? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | if that doesn't work...well...I'm out of ideas for now :-P |
| Z_God | same isssue |
| kb9vqf | hmmmm |
| kb9vqf | and embeddedWinId() is still returning 0 I take it? |
| kb9vqf | with no BadWindow errors? |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | hmm |
| Z_God | I see a lot of BadWindow errors in my .xsession-erros |
| Z_God | r |
| kb9vqf | on the very bottom of it? |
| Z_God | I'll tail that one & see if they are from kmozilla |
| Z_God | yep |
| kb9vqf | sounds like they are being logged there |
| kb9vqf | pastebin please? |
| Z_God | seems not :( |
| Z_God | when switching back |
| Z_God | to khtml I do get one |
| Z_God | but not when switching from khtml to kmozilla |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| Z_God | http://pastebin.com/zNadVEfH |
| kb9vqf | try moving the embed->show() command before the embed->embed() command |
| Z_God | and leave the m_stub->show()? |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| kb9vqf | wait |
| Z_God | just moving the embed doesn't work |
| Z_God | embed->show() I mean |
| Z_God | same issue then |
| kb9vqf | The BadWindow error you posted is an error in X_MapSubwindows |
| kb9vqf | which sounds like it could be related |
| Z_God | :D |
| Z_God | one sec |
| Z_God | I have something to show :) |
| kb9vqf | ok... |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: What? |
| Z_God | http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BiSwJPk2dHY/Tod915u2bAI/AAAAAAAAAd8/tLv1yH1YwI0/s640/konqueror_using_gecko2.png |
| kb9vqf | you did that? |
| Z_God | yep, it's working :) |
| kb9vqf | what was the problem? |
| kb9vqf | so I know :) |
| Z_God | m_stub->show(); had to be before the embed->embed |
| kb9vqf | that's what I suspected :) |
| kb9vqf | and the BadWindow error confirmed it |
| kb9vqf | great to hear it's working! |
| Z_God | I will create proper patches against subversion now & mail them to the devel list? |
| kb9vqf | yes, please do :) |
| kb9vqf | then you can work on the back/forward buttons |
| Z_God | I hope you can create packages for these components then |
| Z_God | yes :) |
| kb9vqf | definitely |
| kb9vqf | it should be as simple as throwing a switch in the Makefile and packaging a new .so file |
| kb9vqf | well, maybe adding a configure switch as well, but...for the benefit, definitely worth the effort! |
| Z_God | there are a few more things I guess |
| Z_God | but it should be trivial :) |
| kb9vqf | I would expect so |
| kb9vqf | as long as gtkmozembed continues to be available this is great! |
| kb9vqf | KHTML has ALWAYS been a KDE back eye |
| kb9vqf | *black |
| kb9vqf | and it is still so under KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | so having this available should help Trinity |
| Z_God | yeah, I think having multiple renderers in general is always good |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | for most people's Google/Facebook usage they will notice the bad rendering far more than the lack of fancy integration with Konqueror |
| kb9vqf | and this way we only need xulrunner installed, not the entire Firefox system |
| kb9vqf | so it saves some space on the LiveCD :) |
| Z_God | ah firefox is on the live cd? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | because KHTML is....just that bad :-P |
| kb9vqf | at least it's on the Enterprise version |
| kb9vqf | now I don't remember if I crammed it onto the regular version or not |
| Z_God | btw, I also came across this bug |
| Z_God | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32463 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 32463: was not found. |
| Z_God | regarding that byte order issue |
| Z_God | it seems it was changed to fix big endian boxes, but they just broke little endian with that |
| Z_God | so maybe it's possible to check for big/little endian at compile time? |
| kb9vqf | yes it is |
| kb9vqf | IIRC there is a GNU C __ define |
| kb9vqf | gcc *should* make __BIG_ENDIAN__ available |
| kb9vqf | and __LITTLE_ENDIAN__ |
| kb9vqf | so #ifdef __BIG_ENDIAN__ |
| kb9vqf | but this should probably also check for the gcc compiler |
| kb9vqf | Even better: |
| kb9vqf | And #include <endian.h> defines __BYTE_ORDER, __LITTLE_ENDIAN, and __BIG_ENDIAN which can be tested at compile time. |
| kb9vqf | and Qt has something as well IIRC |
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| kb9vqf | Z_God: Here you go, this is probably best: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/docs/qt3/qapplication.html#qSysInfo |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | if Qt is already in use |
| kb9vqf | if not then use the #defines I mentioned above |
| Z_God | it's not |
| Z_God | that's the whole point of the marshalling I think ;) |
| kb9vqf | ok, use the endian.h #defines then |
| * kb9vqf was never much of a DCOP developer :-P | |
| kb9vqf | It's a magic little black box to me :) |
| kb9vqf | I prefer to know the low level internals of Xorg personally |
| Z_God | I know more about dcop now than I ever imagined I'd know :P |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | that's great! |
| kb9vqf | now we have someone that can deal with it if it acts up for any reason :) |
| kb9vqf | this kind of diversity is a good thing |
| kb9vqf | means the project is healty |
| kb9vqf | *healthy |
| Z_God | I guess there's no else? |
| Z_God | I mean for the #ifdef |
| kb9vqf | #else |
| kb9vqf | #endif |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea |
| kb9vqf | about needing an else or not |
| Z_God | I will just use both big & little |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Z_God | it makes things clear as well |
| kb9vqf | and the default case would then be what? |
| Z_God | nothing |
| kb9vqf | i.e. if neither BIG nor LITTLE was defined, then what would happen? |
| kb9vqf | would DCOP break? |
| kb9vqf | or would it work in a default endian-ness? |
| Z_God | it would break with compiling I guess |
| kb9vqf | well, let's be sure |
| Z_God | maybe you want to review my patches or..? ;) |
| kb9vqf | #if (!defined(__LITTLE_ENDIAN) && !defined(__BIG_ENDIAN)) |
| kb9vqf | #error "something" |
| kb9vqf | #endif |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | and yes, I'll review the patches of course ;-) |
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| Z_God | but I have no idea what the default would need to be then |
| kb9vqf | that's why it just throws an error |
| Z_God | because there are only 2 orders I'd say |
| Z_God | ah yeah, makes sense |
| kb9vqf | better to have an error than obscure behaviour |
| kb9vqf | especially in something as esoteric as DCOP |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: sent :) |
| kb9vqf | ok, thanks |
| Z_God | ah I forgot to add the details about the environment variables needed, I'll send another mail about that |
| Z_God | let me know if you have any issues with the patches or getting it to compile/work |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I probably won't be able to work on it much today, but if you want to continue working on the back/forward buttons, etc. feel free :) |
| Z_God | I'm not sure yet when I'll have time, but of course I really hope to continue |
| Z_God | it would be good to have everything building in SVN, then I can also more easily create patches |
| Z_God | also, I kind of hope you will be able to reproduce that it actually works now :) |
| Z_God | btw. suse had several separate packages for these bindings |
| Z_God | I'm not sure if debian ever packaged them before |
| Z_God | if you want I can research a bit how suse split things up when they were still shipping it, I guess it would make sense to do it similarly |
| Z_God | I'm off to bed now, good night all! |
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| calvin | can't get on the IRC with tethering my laptop to my phone on the go. :[ what a shame |
| calvin | though I have been using my laptop all day and I have 50% battery still. |
| sultan2 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGiRiMr1qUI Mirror - This video MUST go VIRAL!.avi (The Truth About Libya) via: theamericanawakening.org |
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| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: Did you run into this? /usr/include/xulrunner-1.9.2.22/gtkmozembed.h:140: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘gtk_moz_embed_get_type’ |
| calvin | kb9vqf: does kpackage usually take up such space? |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| calvin | and I see there are multiple backends... I could write one for pacman potentially |
| calvin | seems to be a memory hog |
| kb9vqf | how so? |
| kb9vqf | it might have a package search database... |
| calvin | must be :) |
| calvin | it uses 15% of my 4gigs |
| calvin | so like 450 mb of res memory |
| calvin | I assume just because it loads the database. not a big deal |
| calvin | but a pacman backend would be almost easy, I've worked with pacman a ton and have worked on the source code and am familiar with the backend library libalpm |
| kb9vqf | hey, go for it :) |
| kb9vqf | patches are always welcome |
| calvin | anyway, trinity is really rocking |
| calvin | I have kpowermanager all setup perfectly |
| calvin | still trying to remove gnome from my system. doesn't seem to be a container package |
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| kb9vqf | nope, there isn't |
| kb9vqf | welcome to bad design (again) :-P |
| kb9vqf | and glad to hear Trinity is working well for you :) |
| kb9vqf | Are you running the latest code from SVN? |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| MobileTurkey | the quickbuild yes? |
| MobileTurkey | kpackage seems to be really nice though, honesty browsing through apps is really handly (arch has had a few frontends, none of which I liked) |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: also I see that kmozilla is working again? |
| kb9vqf | working on it still :) |
| kb9vqf | Z_God is doing some execllent work on that front |
| kb9vqf | *excellent rather |
| MobileTurkey | that would be really good good good |
| MobileTurkey | though it is gtk :| |
| kb9vqf | I don't care |
| kb9vqf | I don't want to maintain a Web browser |
| kb9vqf | that's like reinventing the wheel |
| kb9vqf | over and over |
| MobileTurkey | It is |
| MobileTurkey | I concur |
| kb9vqf | and besides, with kgtk...well... |
| MobileTurkey | I mean, as long as it integrates... |
| kb9vqf | the lines are blurred pretty good :) |
| MobileTurkey | indeed |
| MobileTurkey | but I think a webkit backend would be better ;) |
| kb9vqf | feel free to work on it :-P |
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| kb9vqf | I am fed up with Qt4 right now |
| kb9vqf | Every Qt4 app I touch is slow as molasses |
| MobileTurkey | what are you stuck on now? |
| kb9vqf | It's not Trinity related actually |
| MobileTurkey | eh? |
| kb9vqf | I was just trying out new software |
| kb9vqf | and you can tell the Qt4 apps from the non-Qt based apps quite readily |
| MobileTurkey | I don't think its all qt... apps are just written crappily also. |
| kb9vqf | well, Qt4 adds its own special touch of bloatiness and clunky widgets :-P |
| MobileTurkey | qt4 just helped them jump the mental barrier of "slim desktop' to "lets have a mysql database to count the amount of times I fart in one day" |
| kb9vqf | I guess |
| kb9vqf | either way Qt4 has a very bad reputation in my mind |
| MobileTurkey | every time there is a push to go to the 'next new thing' people assume they need to load crap on |
| kb9vqf | no different than Visual Basic I suppose |
| kb9vqf | you can write good VB apps |
| MobileTurkey | it's just like the gnome2.6 -> 3 mes |
| kb9vqf | but most people write bad VB apps |
| kb9vqf | so VB gets a bad name |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: I say that about C++ though |
| kb9vqf | C++ has its place |
| kb9vqf | it is perfect for the desktop |
| kb9vqf | it is NOT perfect for embedded systems ;-) |
| MobileTurkey | I think it has the tendency to grow out of control |
| kb9vqf | it takes more effort to manage |
| kb9vqf | so it is easier to let your apps bloat |
| MobileTurkey | yep |
| kb9vqf | but that's like saying that when you use an air nailer you do a bad job of roofing because you can put more nails in the roof |
| MobileTurkey | but again same as VB, it's not the langauge that is bad, its more the group that writes in it |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MobileTurkey | I think the one bad thing about desktops being so accessable, is that everyone thinks they are a programmer |
| MobileTurkey | which is AWESOME from one point, because the community is growing, but then again, quality control goes out the window |
| kb9vqf | yeah |
| kb9vqf | in fact most people are NOT programmers |
| kb9vqf | most people don't even WANT to program |
| MobileTurkey | most people are "web developers" |
| kb9vqf | but when the open source devs are saying "you need to fix that yourself".... |
| MobileTurkey | that is also true |
| kb9vqf | most people are lamers, not hackers ;-) |
| kb9vqf | even under Linux |
| MobileTurkey | indeed. |
| MobileTurkey | especially under linux. |
| MobileTurkey | I'll say I am a fair share of lame |
| kb9vqf | yes, and I will reinforce that some :) |
| MobileTurkey | I just need motivation! |
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| kb9vqf | you alone are in control of your reputation ;-) |
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| MobileTurkey | tis true |
| kb9vqf | I know real life gets in the way |
| MobileTurkey | now I just need to get my development workflow setup on this lappy |
| kb9vqf | but come on, send in some patches already :)) |
| MobileTurkey | xD |
| MobileTurkey | It's about time, but now I am using it, I will be able to do a ton more |
| MobileTurkey | I already have an idea for kpackager. |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: to do devel on trinity under ubuntu, do I need to install -dev package for trinity? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MobileTurkey | I know there is some sort of split, I am not sure though |
| MobileTurkey | like kdebase-dev? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | kdebase-trinity-dev |
| kb9vqf | otherwise you'll get a load of KDE4 garbage |
| kb9vqf | *truckload |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | also, is there a way to clone the whole svn tree without it cutting out? maybe it's only me but it errors out alot |
| kb9vqf | hmmm, nope |
| kb9vqf | I'd grab just the part you are interested in honestly |
| MobileTurkey | yeah good idea |
| MobileTurkey | wait I know! I can just scp the tree I have on my other box. ( have most of it already |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | oh fun |
| kb9vqf | /usr/include/glib-2.0/gobject/gtype.h:385: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘typedef’ |
| kb9vqf | I hate that :-P |
| MobileTurkey | usually just a typo yes? |
| MobileTurkey | why are you working with the g stack? |
| kb9vqf | mozilla kpart |
| kb9vqf | and the typo wouldn't be in the Trinity code |
| kb9vqf | unless it's something really obscure |
| kb9vqf | which is why I hate this kind of problem ;-) |
| MobileTurkey | hmmm :| |
| kb9vqf | looks like I have two different glib includes specified |
| kb9vqf | I wonder if that could do it |
| kb9vqf | 1.2 and 2.0 |
| MobileTurkey | yeah, gtk is like qt in that sense, you can't have 1.2 and 2.6 or 3.0 together |
| MobileTurkey | symbol clashing |
| kb9vqf | nope |
| kb9vqf | err, wait |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | bad gtk version as well |
| kb9vqf | grrrr..... |
| kb9vqf | Isn't prgramming fun? |
| MobileTurkey | typically I find the fun part is getting an awesome idea and implementing it, the bug fixing, not so much |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | That was it BTW |
| kb9vqf | two include headers, one from each version :-P |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| MobileTurkey | ouch |
| MobileTurkey | anyway I am going to bed (scp is still going nicely) |
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| kb9vqf | Z_God: Build system fixes for the Mozilla plugin are in SVN as of revision 1256729. |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: great :) |
| Z_God | I hope you also got the kpart to work on your side? |
| kb9vqf | couldn't really test here as I don't have a source-built test system up and running, but it does compile... |
| kb9vqf | (my test systems run off of binary packages and I have not yet had time to update the packaging files for kdebindings) |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | the 'getting it to compile' part was the less hard part though ;) |
| Z_God | I think there is a problem with the dcopc if-defs |
| kb9vqf | what specifically? |
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| Z_God | when I tried to compile it here |
| Z_God | I got warning the variables were not used |
| Z_God | so it seems it skipped both the big & little ending parts and did not give a warning either |
| kb9vqf | well, please troubleshoot it if you can :) |
| kb9vqf | and send a new patch to the list |
| Z_God | ok, I will look into it, I will set up a vm now so I can compile the svn version directly |
| Z_God | it seems current svn does not detect my lucid install as a compatible prefix anymore |
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| Z_God | is there a ubuntu package for the right version of Qt3 to compile the version from SVN? |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: it seems the build scripts search for both gtk 1.2 and gtk 2.0 (same with glib) |
| Z_God | all the old gtk checks need to be removed |
| Z_God | otherwise I guess there will be problems when compiling on systems that have both versions installed |
| Z_God | I'm just upgrading completely to the nighly build now (in my VM), it seems the easiest to work with svn |
| Z_God | schreiberstein: you still have this issue with missing packages? |
| Z_God | it seems there are some mirrors that are incomplete, specifying another mirror manually in sources.list fixes the issue |
| schreiberstein | Z_God: Yeah.. some problems... error 404.. gtg |
| schreiberstein | see ya! |
| Z_God | tschüss! |
| schreiberstein | :-D |
| schreiberstein | Z_God: Bis dann! |
| Z_God | :) |
| schreiberstein | Wieder da! / Back |
| schreiberstein | http://pastebin.com/KCtnNaBn |
| Z_God | use this mirror in your sources.list: http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/ |
| Z_God | it should solve at least the missing files issue |
| schreiberstein | thx man! |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: I've got a new patch for dcopc, at least it works here now (the current code indeed doesn't work), I'll mail it to the list |
| schreiberstein | WORKS! |
| Z_God | great! |
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| yomyom | Does anybody know where the actual SVG files of the Crystal icons of KDE 3.5 can be found at? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=8341 (Crystal SVG) |
| yomyom | Is it available in the KDE 3.5 source code? |
| Z_God | yomyom: maybe they are in KDE 4? |
| yomyom | Z_God: There is the Oxygen icon set http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons/ |
| Z_God | yomyom: yeah strange, maybe you could e-mail the original author |
| yomyom | I really should |
| yomyom | Does Trinity has SVG icon support? |
| Z_God | I guess nott |
| Z_God | not* |
| yomyom | Will it have support for it? |
| yomyom | If it has not now... |
| Z_God | right now, I wouldn't expect it to be implemented soon |
| Z_God | is there any particular reason you'd like to see SVG support? |
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| yomyom | Z_God: SVG is scalable and easy to manipulate |
| yomyom | I love SVG |
| Z_God | I know that |
| Z_God | but what do you want to do in Trinity with that? |
| yomyom | It is the god of painting images :-) |
| yomyom | I want SVG because it is good and I want to use it with my Gtk applications too |
| Z_God | you think you could implement it yourself? |
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| calvin | kb9vqf: hey my kcm module for display is crashing |
| calvin | when I have an external VGA plugged in |
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| kb9vqf | calvin: Please get a backtrace for me |
| KingSphinx | Another question regarding nightlies: if I installed them on Ubuntu 11.04, would they carry over to 11.10 or would I need to wrestle with repos or whatever? |
| schreiberstein | I'd like to know that too! |
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| kb9vqf | we will not build binaries for Oneric (11.10) until it has hit the final release candidate |
| kb9vqf | otherwise it is a massive waste of our resources to constantly rebuild binaries for every single source package |
| kb9vqf | (for reference, on the build farm it takes one day solid to rebuild all of the binaries for one distribution version--Trinity includes a lot of software!) |
| kb9vqf | and even then it will be contingent on enough free time to set up those builds |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: everything should just continue to work |
| Z_God | Ubuntu is mostly backwards compatible with packages made for older versions |
| Z_God | sometimes things break a bit when dpkg can't figure things out, but some targetted commands can often fix that |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: I wasn't sure about it, I don't know if that #include <endian.h> line is still necessary |
| Z_God | I saw it's still there |
| kb9vqf | eh, I'll leave it for now :-P |
| kb9vqf | as a little reminder that the file is quite endian-sensitive |
| Z_God | hehehe ok |
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| Z_God | I wonder if it'd be hard to built everything on sparc |
| Z_God | build* |
| Z_God | in my memories, everything was hard to build on sparc.... |
| Z_God | but that was solaris... maybe I could try linux some time |
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| calvin | kb9vqf: yyep will do |
| calvin | also "Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt-x11-free/qt3-dev-tools_3.3.8-d-0ubuntu0+sr71+pr178~natty_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 213.21.225.5 80] |
| calvin | Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt-x11-free/qt3-apps-dev_3.3.8-d-0ubuntu0+sr71+pr178~natty_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 213.21.225.5 80] |
| calvin | while trying to install dev packages |
| calvin | nevermind went through this time |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: poking around with C++, I still don't get this whole class thing lol |
| kb9vqf | well, there are some good guides online... ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I like the "mess around and hope it compiles method" |
| MutantTurkey | playing around with kpackage |
| kb9vqf | which doesn't make for good program design.... |
| MutantTurkey | I agree |
| MutantTurkey | mostly I am just playing around with the backend interface and seeing how it works |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: we don't have docs generate for various kde apis do we? is there a package |
| kb9vqf | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/docs/ |
| MutantTurkey | savior |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: how does Kicon work? I mean is there is freedesktop standard for icon naming? :| |
| kb9vqf | dunno, sorry |
| MutantTurkey | okay thanks :) |
| MutantTurkey | docs = everything is okay |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay now to create a patch... |
| MutantTurkey | can svn do this for me? |
| kb9vqf | svn diff |
| MutantTurkey | also if I remove files will it do that too? |
| MutantTurkey | and add files, or move them? |
| kb9vqf | svn add <filename> |
| kb9vqf | svn del <filename> |
| kb9vqf | svn mv <filename> <dest> |
| kb9vqf | then svn diff |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MutantTurkey | can svn del be recursive? :x |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay then svn diff | name.patch? |
| kb9vqf | svn diff &> patch.diff :) |
| MutantTurkey | should the patch be named? |
| MutantTurkey | whoa firefox 7 is really fast |
| MutantTurkey | (coming from a guy who hates ff) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: sent it off to the ML |
| MutantTurkey | take a look! :D |
| MutantTurkey | (since I need to sleep and would like some sort of positive feedback before I do) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: going to sleep. maybe you will accept it :) night |
| kb9vqf | ok, sorry |
| kb9vqf | not much time to work on Trinity ATM |
| kb9vqf | and if files are moved it will take longer to approve because distribution packaging has to be changed to match |
| kb9vqf | nothing personal, just the facts of software maintinence :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 530 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=530 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ktalkd-trinity should Provide: talkd |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 531 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=531 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, RFP: ksensors |
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| kb9vqf | sorry, security trumps convenience |
| kb9vqf | always :) |
| kb9vqf | now what we could do is encourage the user to set echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope in the crash dialog |
| MutantTurkey | I am just having trouble imagining a "hacker" targeting linux over my secured ethernet connection behind my firewall |
| kb9vqf | well, that's why you can set the yama sysctl to 0 permanently |
| MutantTurkey | but wouldn't it not matter? I mean isn't that the purpose of privledges on linux? so that even if a user does something dumb or is comprimised it can't effect the system |
| kb9vqf | ptrace is special in that regard |
| kb9vqf | you can most certainly mess up the system that way |
| kb9vqf | anyway, we're off topic :) |
| kb9vqf | now can you generate the backtrace? |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| MutantTurkey | loading it up |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: so with ptrace I can examine and modify all memory? |
| kb9vqf | not sure |
| kb9vqf | it is possible |
| MutantTurkey | seems more like something that needs to be corrected in the kernel rather than disabling it |
| MutantTurkey | I see they are doing upstream stuff, that is good |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: want a bug or email? |
| kb9vqf | pastebin for now :) |
| MutantTurkey | http://pastebin.ca/2086550 |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: note that I can actually use the monitor with krandr_tray |
| MutantTurkey | so It's not the hardware that can't do it |
| kb9vqf | that makes sense |
| kb9vqf | I know it's not the hardware ;-) |
| kb9vqf | actually, which graphics chip do you have? |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Try this patch: http://pastebin.com/QBCvMBdQ |
| kb9vqf | No guarantees as to whether the control center will work properly as I don't know why it can't find your primary monitor, but this should at least avoid the crash |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: You still around? |
| MutantTurkey | yes sorry |
| MutantTurkey | little sister is sick |
| MutantTurkey | I have the intel 3000 internal graphics card |
| MutantTurkey | it's coupled with the new sandy bridge processors |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: sorry I am a noobie at applying patches |
| kb9vqf | cd kdebase/ |
| kb9vqf | patch -p0 < patch.diff |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| kb9vqf | wait a while |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ubuntu has a weird lib folder |
| kb9vqf | is it a problem? |
| MutantTurkey | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libasound.so', needed by `kcontrol/arts/kcm_arts.so'. Stop. |
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| MutantTurkey | hey TokRa |
| TokRa | Evening, MutantTurkey :) |
| MutantTurkey | how are you? |
| schreiberstein | Hi MutantTurkey! |
| MutantTurkey | hey schreiberstein! |
| MutantTurkey | it's a party in here, haha |
| TokRa | MutantTurkey: Nice as always :) |
| MutantTurkey | Excellent to hear |
| TokRa | For the bad news: I have switched to KDE4 completely. |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| schreiberstein | yep. he definitely is! |
| schreiberstein | TokRa: Why? |
| schreiberstein | i like kde4 too. but kde3 is better in my opinion |
| TokRa | schreiberstein: more modern, featureful |
| MutantTurkey | TokRa: I can't even get past installing it, it just keeps getting caught with nokomoko |
| MutantTurkey | "modern" means bloat? |
| schreiberstein | it work'S damn slow on my homeserver... |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: I daresay, it plauges my server as well |
| schreiberstein | intel atom |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: ... me too! |
| MutantTurkey | though I love my little n330 atom |
| schreiberstein | :-D |
| TokRa | kde3 has becme deprecated and poorly supported (I mean, a fistful of geeks is not enough) |
| kb9vqf | well, he must not need the features Trinity offers |
| kb9vqf | that's his choice |
| * TokRa always use the cheapest CPU possible :) | |
| MutantTurkey | off with his head (joking) |
| MutantTurkey | TokRa: amd? :P |
| schreiberstein | of course... |
| MutantTurkey | or "take him away" |
| schreiberstein | he said intel atom |
| TokRa | model name : AMD Sempron(tm) 140 Processor |
| MutantTurkey | or "the infidel..." |
| TokRa | MutantTurkey: You bet :) |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: you can just cd to obj-*/kcontrol/displayconfig and make && make install in there |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: I love my atom |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | with cmake will it matter? |
| kb9vqf | it'll work |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: Atom is fu****g slow. but it'S good enough for lamp, mpd, git, etc. |
| kb9vqf | Trinity is a DE for geeks, so... |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: I use it as a desktop... |
| MutantTurkey | I think linux is for geeks in general |
| MutantTurkey | I don't like this "LETS GET EVERYONE INVOLVED EVEN THOUGH THEY JUST WANT TO USE MACS" fanboyism |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: but it is really slow compared to an amd x2 |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 is for the facebook crowd |
| kb9vqf | so not really |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: yeah it's true |
| MutantTurkey | imagine compiling trinity on it? :| |
| MutantTurkey | that was why my progress was so terrible with archlinux |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: i compiled kde 2 on it.. tool 1 or two hours |
| schreiberstein | *took |
| MutantTurkey | kde3.5 is a lot more |
| kb9vqf | yeah, you don't want to do that :eek: |
| MutantTurkey | at least it took like 45 minutes or just qt3 |
| kb9vqf | So TokRa is your mirror going down |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| TokRa | kb9vqf: absolutely not :) I'll keep supporting TDE as promised. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | btw I think it's stuck |
| MutantTurkey | hip hip! hooray |
| kb9vqf | hasn't updated for almost a week |
| TokRa | The DE on my desktops has nothing to do with it :) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| TokRa | o.O |
| kb9vqf | I look at it this way: TDE is more like Windows XP on a domain, and KDE4 is more like Windows 7 on its own |
| kb9vqf | Different use cases entirely |
| kb9vqf | If you use the wrong tool for the job you will just get frustrated |
| MutantTurkey | hence the reason that there are multiple DE's |
| MutantTurkey | everyone has a different flow |
| kb9vqf | so don't encourage users that don't need TDE's features to use it :) |
| kb9vqf | it'll just result in bad press for us |
| MutantTurkey | (which is why unity/gnome3 stink because they force you onto a single developers flow) |
| kb9vqf | for us |
| kb9vqf | other people might like that flow |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: got it, was a header file |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | stinking ubuntu doesn't have headers |
| kb9vqf | heh |
| MutantTurkey | but problem solved |
| MutantTurkey | what was weird is there was a link error, not a include error? |
| kb9vqf | you should probably have done an apt-get build-dep kdebase-trinity first |
| MutantTurkey | build-dep? |
| kb9vqf | it pulls in all the build dependencies |
| MutantTurkey | oh cool |
| kb9vqf | I am thinking of adding more domain-type features to trinity in the future |
| MutantTurkey | domain type? |
| kb9vqf | I'm trying to make a first-class business-grade DE here :) |
| MutantTurkey | I am unfamiliar |
| MutantTurkey | oh so like for deployment on multi desktops |
| kb9vqf | LDAP centralized authentication |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | thats AWESOME |
| MutantTurkey | that is SO AWESOME |
| kb9vqf | I have it all working here but no GUI for it |
| kb9vqf | that's what I want to fix |
| MutantTurkey | these are features that people and businesses need |
| MutantTurkey | and things that keep linux from getting adopted... |
| kb9vqf | anyway, just pipe dreaming ATM, without much time to work on it... |
| kb9vqf | but yes |
| kb9vqf | and that means our goals are VERY different from KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | hence my comments above :) |
| MutantTurkey | I had the lock screen freeze on me today. I logged into a tty and killed the process, then I switched back and it was like i logged in, right back to the normal screen |
| MutantTurkey | is that a security issue? (jw) |
| MutantTurkey | killing the screen lock process shouldn't return to regular desktop usage? |
| kb9vqf | I don't think it's an issue |
| kb9vqf | out of curiosity where did it freeze? |
| kb9vqf | on what screen? |
| kb9vqf | the only thing i can do to improve security is kill the entire desktop session if the lock dies |
| MutantTurkey | I just unslept and it wouldn't accept my password |
| kb9vqf | wouldn't accept it? |
| MutantTurkey | I would type in, hit enter , ad it would just clear the text |
| MutantTurkey | and go right back to saying |
| MutantTurkey | press ctrl alt delete |
| kb9vqf | hmmmm |
| kb9vqf | only on resume after sleep? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | only happened once so far |
| kb9vqf | well, that's not good at all |
| kb9vqf | if it happens again let me know |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| kb9vqf | and if it does happen again, please keep logging in over and over for at least 10 times |
| kb9vqf | see if it finally unwedges or not |
| kb9vqf | what may be happening is a stack of login screens |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | like many are spawning |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| kb9vqf | right |
| MutantTurkey | I only killed a single process |
| MutantTurkey | but possibly |
| kb9vqf | well, that process may have multiple windows |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| kb9vqf | anyway, you don't need to recompile all of kdebase ;-) |
| kb9vqf | just cd to that obj-* directory |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | still crashed |
| kb9vqf | same crash? |
| MutantTurkey | I just copied the display library over to /opt/lib/trinity/lib |
| MutantTurkey | is that ok? |
| kb9vqf | run make install |
| MutantTurkey | the freshly build one |
| kb9vqf | from within the obj-*/kcontrol/displayconfig directory |
| kb9vqf | that way you will be sure to have it installed correctly |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Is the backtrace identical to before? |
| MutantTurkey | looks to be |
| MutantTurkey | let me verify |
| MutantTurkey | Different |
| MutantTurkey | reuploading |
| kb9vqf | for some reason it can't find your primary monitor, and I wonder why that is |
| kb9vqf | It concerns me |
| MutantTurkey | Oh holy crap |
| MutantTurkey | i think this might be because krandr is running |
| MutantTurkey | let me try from scratch |
| kb9vqf | that shouldn't make any difference |
| MutantTurkey | i had one screen disabled |
| kb9vqf | if there's a bug with that I need to know! |
| MutantTurkey | its been working perfectly so far |
| MutantTurkey | krandr that is |
| kb9vqf | well, yes |
| kb9vqf | because it does not use the advanced features in libkrandr |
| kb9vqf | e.g. it doesn't let you set a primary monitor, etc. |
| MutantTurkey | with it unplugged = no crash (still a bit slow though) |
| MutantTurkey | plugged = crash |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | new pastebin please? |
| MutantTurkey | http://pastebin.ca/2086564 |
| MutantTurkey | there ya go |
| MutantTurkey | gotta help with groceries really quickly |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Try this: http://pastebin.com/stc1cSmm |
| kb9vqf | Replace your entire displayconfig.cpp file in kcontrol/displayconfig with that |
| kb9vqf | then make/make install |
| MutantTurkey | displayconfigbase.cpp? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: it installs to /usr/local/lib/trinity is that okay? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | copy it to the correct location |
| kb9vqf | and no, kdebase/kcontrol/displayconfig/displayconfig.cpp |
| kb9vqf | NOT displayconfigbase.cpp |
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| kb9vqf | you need to look outside the obj-* directory |
| MutantTurkey | ahhh |
| MutantTurkey | wait the obj-* diirectoy |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | ohh |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay still crashing |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Grrr |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| MutantTurkey | *runs away* |
| kb9vqf | can you get line numbers this time? |
| MutantTurkey | do you want any other info? |
| kb9vqf | the last backtrace was usesless |
| MutantTurkey | yes sure |
| MutantTurkey | wait howso? |
| kb9vqf | the last backtrace you pastebinned had no line numbers in it :-P |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf:http://pastebin.ca/2086565 |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| kb9vqf | same thing |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | I guess I'll have to try to reproduce it here |
| MutantTurkey | wait what? |
| MutantTurkey | no line numbers? |
| kb9vqf | #7 0x00007fddd08dbedb in KDisplayConfig::moveMonitor(DraggableMonitor*, int, int) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kcm_displayconfig.so |
| kb9vqf | instead of |
| kb9vqf | #7 0x00007fc79256aeaf in KDisplayConfig::moveMonitor (this=0x1fc8030, monitor=0x2030640, realx=0, realy=0) at /build/buildd/kdebase-trinity-3.5.13/kcontrol/displayconfig/displayconfig.cpp:641 |
| MutantTurkey | you don't mean the #7? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | sorry :[ |
| MutantTurkey | do you want any dmesg output or anything related to that? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know if my setup is automagically different |
| kb9vqf | all you did was plug in a new monitor, right? |
| kb9vqf | and it just died? |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | When I have it plugged in first |
| MutantTurkey | then go to system->display... |
| kb9vqf | right, and then it dies |
| MutantTurkey | aye |
| kb9vqf | let me see if I can replicate that |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | Also if I got to system->dispaly first then plugin, then hit "rescan" it crashes |
| kb9vqf | that makes sense |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: dinnner bbs |
| kb9vqf | you're in luck--I can replicate the problem on my Intel chip |
| kb9vqf | now to see about fixing it... :) |
| MutantTurkey | excellent |
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| MobileTurkey | yeek back to windows |
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| MobileTurkey1 | kb9vqf: any luck? |
| kb9vqf | still working on it |
| kb9vqf | the source code for this feature is massive |
| kb9vqf | at least 4k lines of code |
| MobileTurkey1 | wow |
| MobileTurkey1 | you rock! |
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| Z_God | kb9vqf: you mean you want to create a UI to configure PAM with LDAP? |
| Z_God | at work I was also using trinity and LDAP authentication |
| Z_God | there is already a UI for configuring LDAP when you install the LDAP client support on Ubuntu |
| Z_God | I think it would be good if there would be a Trinity interface to make dpkg-reconfigure accessible easily and then if any of those interfaces suck, fixes could be made upstream to improve that UI for all users |
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| Mias | hello |
| Mias | how to put compiz into kdm? |
| kb9vqf | you can't |
| kb9vqf | compiz does not have the ability to switch the running user |
| kb9vqf | i.e. if it is launched as root it will run as root for the remainder of the Xorg session (== big security problem) |
| Mias | ohnoez |
| Mias | fusion-icon wont work here |
| kb9vqf | you can of course launch compiz in your user session |
| kb9vqf | what is wrong with fusion-icon |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| Mias | no it says xgl not there |
| Mias | but it runs using xinit |
| Mias | kb9vqf: it cant launch it |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| kb9vqf | is this with the nightly builds? |
| kb9vqf | or 3.5.12? |
| Mias | how to see version? |
| Mias | should be actual from the repo |
| Mias | on lucid |
| kb9vqf | Go to Konqueror, then Help->About Trinity |
| kb9vqf | If your version is even older then it might read Help->About KDE |
| kb9vqf | You will see the version number on the top of that dialog boc |
| kb9vqf | *box |
| kb9vqf | post it here |
| Mias | 3.5.11 |
| kb9vqf | you are running an outdated and unsupported version of Trinity |
| kb9vqf | I am not surprised fusion-icon does not work |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.11 has more in common with KDE 3.5.10 than the current version of Trinity |
| kb9vqf | perhaps searching for forum posts about fusion-icon not working with KDE 3.5.10 would be more helpful? |
| kb9vqf | otherwise I strongly recommend to upgrade to at least KDE 3.5.12, or the nightly builds |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.13 will be available by the end of the year if all goes well, so if you can wait a bit longer that would be your best bet |
| Mias | uhm.. |
| Mias | i installed it 2 weeks ago following the instructions on trinity-desktop.org |
| kb9vqf | onto lucid |
| kb9vqf | which is marked as "OldStable" |
| kb9vqf | right on the website :) |
| Mias | yo.. & the same on my netbook 1 year ago and all ok |
| kb9vqf | we did not build 3.5.12 for Lucid due to a lack of resources |
| kb9vqf | we aren't Canonical ;-) |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.13 will be built for Lucid, Maverick, Natty, (probably Oneric), and Debian Squeeze |
| Mias | so I cant have 3.5.12? |
| kb9vqf | not on Lucid |
| kb9vqf | but you can wait a bit for 3.5.13 |
| Mias | what's it with that xgl error? |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea at this point |
| kb9vqf | it could be any number of things |
| kb9vqf | including outdated software |
| kb9vqf | Compiz has always been a bit finicky in my experience |
| kb9vqf | (even outside of KDE) |
| kb9vqf | which graphics chip are you using? |
| Mias | sure it is |
| kb9vqf | you could write to our trinity-users mailing list with your problem |
| kb9vqf | there may be others there who have run into it |
| Mias | nvidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] on pc, intel on netbook |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| kb9vqf | well, there is no reason that I can think of that that hardware should not work |
| kb9vqf | personally I have not used Lucid in some time, so I couldn't tell you if it's an Xorg issue or a problem in fusion-icon, or even in Compiz itself |
| kb9vqf | try the mailing list, we do have other Lucid users there that are not on IRC :) |
| kb9vqf | if there is a bug I'd like to see it fixed for 3.5.13 |
| Mias | hmm |
| kb9vqf | also, running fusion-icon from the terminal and posting the entire output would be helpful |
| kb9vqf | send that in to the mailing list |
| Mias | i acccc. started kde4 with compiz running |
| Mias | ha good idea |
| Mias | maybe this worx with kde3 also |
| Mias | but the kicker menu will be empty :) |
| Mias | + kcontrol |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: hey what's up? |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Upgrade your kdelibs/kdebase and try the monitor utility again ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| kb9vqf | also if you don't mind try installing fusion-icon-trinity and see if you can get it to start Compiz or not |
| MutantTurkey | Upgrading already |
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| MutantTurkey | I don't really know how compiz works |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| kb9vqf | you *should* be able to install fusion-icon-trinity |
| kb9vqf | when you do, there *should* be an icon in your system tray |
| kb9vqf | (if not launch it manually from kicker) |
| kb9vqf | and then you *should* be able to tell it to launch Compiz |
| kb9vqf | (by clicking on the new system tray icon) |
| kb9vqf | I haven't tested this in quite a while, but we had someone here (Mias) who may have found a problem with it |
| kb9vqf | and I'd like to resolve it if the problem is still in SVN |
| MutantTurkey | okay upgraded |
| MutantTurkey | no crash! |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| MutantTurkey | awesome it works! |
| MutantTurkey | now I can stick konversation in it's own display ;0 |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| kb9vqf | nice little tool, no? :) |
| MutantTurkey | dang. it crashed |
| kb9vqf | doing what? |
| MutantTurkey | after I had tested and everything set up perfectly. |
| MutantTurkey | I hit "apply" |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | want the traceback? (display is still configured properly |
| kb9vqf | backtrace would be helpful |
| kb9vqf | what does "properly" mean? |
| MutantTurkey | oh yeah.... gotta do that proc thing again |
| kb9vqf | it worked but then crashed? |
| MutantTurkey | it's working still |
| MutantTurkey | even though it crashed |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| MutantTurkey | because when I tested it, i just said "keep these settings" |
| MutantTurkey | so it had already applied them I suppose |
| kb9vqf | I suppose it might be related to some new code I just added :-P |
| kb9vqf | ironically it's debug code |
| kb9vqf | let's see the backtrace then I can comment further :) |
| MutantTurkey | how do I permenantly apply that /proc/ setting? |
| kb9vqf | something in sysctl.conf I imagine |
| kb9vqf | poke me when you have a backtrace |
| MutantTurkey | OK |
| MutantTurkey | also, can konsole open a new window in the same folder as the previous? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: and sorry, I don't remember how to reenable the memory access for the kernel (it's not in my bash history either?) |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: and sorry, I don't remember how to reenable the memory access for the kernel (it's not in my bash history either?) |
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| kb9vqf-secondary | MobileTurkey: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41629/after-upgrade-gdb-wont-attach-to-process/41656#41656 |
| kb9vqf-secondary | Ran into an OOM condition on my workstation, sorry |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | thanks |
| kb9vqf-secondary | np |
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| Mias | kb9vqf: wohoo its w0rking now |
| Mias | wiith ~icon |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: having trouble getting the backtrace |
| kb9vqf | ~icon? |
| Mias | fusion |
| kb9vqf | what did you do differently? |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: What's wrong? |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: Ok now even test settings renders a crash |
| MobileTurkey | and It keeps saying "this backtrace is of no use..." |
| Mias | kb9vqf: unclear, hacked all day diff. things |
| kb9vqf | did you echo 1 into the proc yama thing? |
| MobileTurkey | echo a 0 you mean |
| kb9vqf | Mias: Well, glad you got it working :) |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: yes |
| MobileTurkey | I did |
| MobileTurkey | and it is 0 i just cat'd it out |
| Mias | hmm switched dbus off, etc pp |
| Mias | :) |
| kb9vqf | Mias: fusion-icon may have had a legitimate complaint about something in your setup that was resolved somehow in your troubleshooting |
| kb9vqf | that's what I always remember about Compiz--it's a pain to setup the first time |
| Mias | yea, orc cpz itself |
| Mias | ^or |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: OK, try launching the control center module via kdesudo |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: Once it's running attach to the process with gdb |
| kb9vqf | from another terminal |
| kb9vqf | you will probaby have to be root to do that |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: Did it work? |
| MobileTurkey | No :/ |
| kb9vqf | you couldn't attach with gdb? |
| MobileTurkey | I mean I was just relying on the handy gui to do it |
| kb9vqf | no, you can't here for some reason |
| MobileTurkey | okay let medo it manually |
| kb9vqf | start it, find displayconfig in 'ps aux', attach with GDB, THEN try to make it crash :) |
| MobileTurkey | there are two processes. kcmshell displayconfig and kcmswhell.real |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: Does on have bin/sh somewhere in it? |
| kb9vqf | *one |
| kb9vqf | if so, attach to the other |
| MobileTurkey | ok |
| MobileTurkey | I went with the one that has a ton more memory... |
| MobileTurkey | assuming that is the real one, other is a wrapper i think |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: Any luck? |
| kb9vqf | I'm trying to cram you into a small timeslot before the build computer is used for other tasks again |
| MobileTurkey | sorry |
| MobileTurkey | let me hurry |
| kb9vqf | np |
| MobileTurkey | okay its ready |
| MobileTurkey | now I just crash it? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MobileTurkey | grr |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | how do you know xrandr itself isn't crashing? |
| MobileTurkey | every time i attach and go back to it, the display kcm is blank |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: because krandrtray can do it |
| kb9vqf | you did type 'c' for continue, right? |
| MobileTurkey | eh |
| kb9vqf | in gdb |
| MobileTurkey | good call |
| MobileTurkey | now crashing it |
| MobileTurkey | okay now how do I output it all |
| kb9vqf | bt |
| kb9vqf | for "backtrace" |
| MobileTurkey | at /build/buildd/kdelibs-..../krandr/libkranr.cc:606 |
| MobileTurkey | "bKRandrSimpleAPI::applySystemwideDisplayConfiguration (this=0x23b8980, screenInfoArray=..., test=false) at /build/buildd/kdelibs-trinity-3.5.13/krandr/libkrandr.cc:606" |
| MobileTurkey | is that relevant? |
| kb9vqf | hang on |
| kb9vqf | can you pastebin the whole thing? |
| MobileTurkey | yep |
| MobileTurkey | http://pastebin.ca/2086988 |
| kb9vqf | and this crash occurs right when you hit apply, correct? |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: and this crash occurs right when you hit apply, correct? |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| kb9vqf | well, I'll say right now the crash is in an odd spot |
| MobileTurkey | really? |
| kb9vqf | I can throw in a fix to prevent the crash but I don't know how much good it will do |
| MobileTurkey | what is the reason it crashes? |
| kb9vqf | the number of monitors changes between scanning and application of the settings |
| kb9vqf | so it is possible that there is an Xorg bug underlying this that I will need to work around |
| kb9vqf | granted displayconfig should just malfunction, not crash, but still.... |
| kb9vqf | it concerns me a bit |
| MobileTurkey | sigh |
| kb9vqf | I'll push the fixes up to SVN, which should stabilize displayconfig |
| kb9vqf | but if it doesn't work then I need to know :) |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | let me know I can rebuild |
| MobileTurkey | once you push |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Patch 1 is in SVN revision 1257359. |
| kb9vqf | but I would wait for the binary packages if I were you |
| MobileTurkey | why is that? |
| kb9vqf | better debugging |
| MobileTurkey | ok good thinking |
| kb9vqf | when you install it yourself we don't get line numbers |
| kb9vqf | and I won't know if it's a compilation issue on your system causing the crash, etc, etc. |
| MobileTurkey | how long till rebuild? |
| kb9vqf | you'll have the fixed versions by tomorrow morning |
| MobileTurkey | okay so i'll get the changes at lunch and see if its fixed |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | thanks for working with me on this |
| MobileTurkey | yep |
| kb9vqf | so I take it you were able to at least partially enable your extra monitor before it crashed? |
| MobileTurkey | I am still on it... |
| MobileTurkey | which is weird. it is completely working the first time |
| MobileTurkey | then when I tried to reproduce, it keeps crashing |
| MobileTurkey | both monitors are working rigt now though |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | we'll see where this is tomorrow |
| MobileTurkey | yep |
| kb9vqf | if it's still crashing at line 606 right now I wouldn't bother keeping trying |
| kb9vqf | for some reason Xorg is reporting different numbers of monitors or something |
| kb9vqf | :S |
| MobileTurkey | is it because I hit "make this my primary monitor?" |
| kb9vqf | nope |
| kb9vqf | that doesn't make any difference |
| kb9vqf | not in that block of code anyway |
| kb9vqf | technically it seems that Xorg is reporting too many monitors and therefore the tool is trying to access monitor configuration data that does not exists |
| kb9vqf | hence the crash |
| kb9vqf | the "fix" not only checks for valid data, but also uses the initially reported number of monitors from the scan or rescan |
| kb9vqf | so we'll see what happens :) |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | I can't tet very thoroughly here because I can't afford the power to start up my fancy nVidia machine, and my laptop's Intel chip only lets me have a virtual screen up to 1600x1600 pixels |
| kb9vqf | which is not enough to activate an external monitor |
| kb9vqf | we're in another stupid heat wave here |
| MobileTurkey | yeesh |
| MobileTurkey | we are just hitting cold in philly |
| MobileTurkey | I've come down with a nasty cold incidentally |
| kb9vqf | well, get well soon, there are lots of bugs to fix! |
| kb9vqf | :)) |
| MobileTurkey | being sick = more time to do trinity |
| kb9vqf | BTW I am going to set a tentative release date of November 1st |
| MobileTurkey | excuse that I am sick is working well |
| MobileTurkey | sweet. |
| kb9vqf | at this point we have to release bugs and all |
| kb9vqf | because of Oneric |
| MobileTurkey | Lets use that deadline to help us get motivated |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | broadcast it far and wide |
| MobileTurkey | rally the troops |
| kb9vqf | also we are therefore in a feature freeze |
| MobileTurkey | that means you Xu_R! |
| kb9vqf | if it's large then it has to wait for 3.5.14 |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: makes sense |
| kb9vqf | and no we won't be going to 3.6 afterwards because the bugs weren't fixed in a timely fashion :-P |
| kb9vqf | such is life... |
| MobileTurkey | yep |
| MobileTurkey | such is life |
| kb9vqf | at this point we need to get rid of as many crashing bugs as possible, including the ones in displayconfig |
| kb9vqf | because that will be one of our front-page new features |
| MobileTurkey | It's a good setup |
| MobileTurkey | another question though, do we need some sort of panel integration? like krandr |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| MobileTurkey | you know krandrtray is a nice panel applet |
| MobileTurkey | do we need a panel applet for the displayconfig? |
| kb9vqf | Yes it is, but the module in kcontrol uses the same backend |
| MobileTurkey | oh okay |
| kb9vqf | there is really just too much info for a tray app |
| MobileTurkey | so changes with go to both? |
| kb9vqf | you an still use krandrtray |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MobileTurkey | good |
| kb9vqf | krandrtray is not persistent |
| kb9vqf | never has been |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| kb9vqf | you can make a change there and on reboot it will reset |
| kb9vqf | displayconfig is permanent |
| kb9vqf | as soon as kdm loads the settings are applied |
| kb9vqf | actually a bit before :) |
| kb9vqf | so that the login screen shows up on your primary monitor |
| MobileTurkey | excellent |
| MobileTurkey | do we need to audit all the bugs? |
| kb9vqf | you'll have to test all this out for me again once it stops crashing :) |
| kb9vqf | audit? |
| MobileTurkey | as in, go through them and make sure they are still valid, or are not, and such |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | in fact I think you are in the best position to do that |
| Xu_R | heard. will try to get as much as possible |
| kb9vqf | as you are running the latest binary packages |
| MobileTurkey | right on |
| MobileTurkey | I'll be doing that then |
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| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: me too |
| kb9vqf | my systems are contaminated with direct source installations |
| MobileTurkey | I am going to bed at 9 |
| MobileTurkey | seems a bit ridiculous :P |
| Xu_R|StillTired | i envy you for that. |
| Xu_R|StillTired | xD |
| MobileTurkey | whats up with the konqueror certs? kb9vqf |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | the failure to accept things? |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| kb9vqf | dunno |
| kb9vqf | does it still do that for you? |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| kb9vqf | if so the certificate store needs to be looked at |
| MobileTurkey | makes using konqueror a pain in the ass |
| kb9vqf | we probably have an invalid master cert somewhere in the tree |
| kb9vqf | IIRC that is in kdelibs |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | if you want to try to hunt it down |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MobileTurkey | I don't understand much about certs |
| MobileTurkey | always room to learn |
| kb9vqf | well, I can try to dig up the directory |
| kb9vqf | just not sure I'll have time to work on it |
| MobileTurkey | i'll poke around no worries |
| MobileTurkey | haha I just ran across an IDEAS file, circa 1999 |
| MobileTurkey | "I am trying to create a picture of how Konqueror should look like in kde 2.0" |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | if you run across suff like that add it to a list |
| MobileTurkey | so khtml is seperate from konqueror |
| MobileTurkey | good |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | KHTML is just a plugin |
| MobileTurkey | that solves alot already |
| MobileTurkey | a kpart? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MobileTurkey | I love trinity, so modular |
| kb9vqf | that's why Z_God got the mozilla kpart partially functional |
| MobileTurkey | so we could replace khtml with mozilla? |
| kb9vqf | if he were to fix it the rest of the way mozilla would become an alternative to KHTML |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MobileTurkey | that would make konqueror viable as a browser |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MobileTurkey | go Z_god go! |
| kb9vqf | and with the code as a base I wonder if chrome could be used |
| * kb9vqf dreams | |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: nope |
| MobileTurkey | they diverged from webkit and basically are being sucmbags |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | oh |
| MobileTurkey | we can still use webkit though |
| kb9vqf | well, that's a shame |
| MobileTurkey | webkit rocks! |
| MobileTurkey | webkit > chrome imho |
| MobileTurkey | webkit is really easy to work with as well. |
| kb9vqf | webkit requires that we be moved off the Qt namespace, etc. |
| kb9vqf | so 3.5.14 at the earliest |
| MobileTurkey | TQtwebkit? |
| kb9vqf | no, just that we build qt as tqt instead of qt :) |
| kb9vqf | I know that doesn't make much sense |
| kb9vqf | but I know what has to be done |
| MobileTurkey | okay :D |
| kb9vqf | and it will happen right after 3.5.13 |
| kb9vqf | the problem is that it will break kdebindings rather badly |
| kb9vqf | until I attack it with sed |
| MobileTurkey | I am fuzzy about kdebindings |
| kb9vqf | it's horrid |
| MobileTurkey | what does it do? |
| kb9vqf | it provides Trinity services to python, ruby, and java apps |
| MobileTurkey | oh |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | basically extends the TDE and Qt api to such programs |
| kb9vqf | but the way it was done makes me shudder : |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | it scans the Qt include header *documentation* and tries to build *some* (not all) source files from that :eek: |
| MobileTurkey | well always room for improvement |
| kb9vqf | except I'm a C++/C/asm kind of guy |
| kb9vqf | I don't really know Python, Ruby, or Java |
| kb9vqf | and don't really want to :-P |
| MobileTurkey | I am also a C guy |
| MobileTurkey | I understand your pain |
| kb9vqf | so hopefully sed can attack it and make it work :-) |
| kb9vqf | this is also going to be a complete breakage of the Qt ABI |
| MobileTurkey | wait what is? :| |
| MobileTurkey | *gets rather confused sometimes |
| kb9vqf | after 3.5.13, the conversion of Qt3 to get off the Qt4 namespace |
| kb9vqf | it has to be if you think about it |
| kb9vqf | all the classes will be really, truly renamed to TQ* |
| MobileTurkey | oh yes |
| MobileTurkey | I recall now, just the wording confused me |
| MobileTurkey | but that won't effect users will it? |
| kb9vqf | but the way it was done allowed us to get Trinity converted to TQ*, then release, then convert Qt itself :) |
| kb9vqf | and no it should't |
| MobileTurkey | then convert Qt itself :) < what do you mean by Qt there? |
| kb9vqf | Qt3 |
| MobileTurkey | okay cool |
| kb9vqf | Qt3 becomes TQt3 for real |
| kb9vqf | no interface needed any more |
| MobileTurkey | oh wow |
| MobileTurkey | awesome |
| kb9vqf | (though it will stick around for legacy reasons I think) |
| kb9vqf | this wasn't possible until we absorbed Qt3 |
| MobileTurkey | right |
| kb9vqf | and we can actually maintain both versions |
| kb9vqf | as I have an auto-converter :) |
| kb9vqf | anyway, I have some work to do |
| kb9vqf | if you have questions about the certs let me know |
| kb9vqf | they are "real" certificate files in a directory in kdelibs or kdebase somewhere |
| kb9vqf | and I bet one or more is invalid |
| MobileTurkey | why does it matter if these certs are invalid? |
| kb9vqf | you will get constant prompting about invalid certs |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | can I manually check them? |
| kb9vqf | not sure |
| kb9vqf | personally I would trace the commit |
| kb9vqf | figure out what went wrong |
| MobileTurkey | where do they come from? |
| * MobileTurkey doesn't understand this really | |
| kb9vqf | This looks promising: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/r1123812.diff |
| kb9vqf | they are in kdelibs/kio/kssl/kssl |
| kb9vqf | there is some documentation there |
| MobileTurkey | okay thanks :D |
| kb9vqf | specifically I suspect the caroot is invalid |
| kb9vqf | if the root certificate is invalid then no certificates can ever be valid :) |
| kb9vqf | *validated |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | these certs come from companies? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | they are the root certificates |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | widely available |
| MobileTurkey | then everyone checks agianst it? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MobileTurkey | cool so all we have to do is get thier current certs? |
| kb9vqf | and it seems they were corrupted by commits like this http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdelibs/kio/kssl/kssl/caroot/ca-bundle.crt?view=log |
| kb9vqf | well, not so fast |
| kb9vqf | there was something in the readme about something that has to be done to them |
| kb9vqf | but you get the general idea |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | I will look into it now |
| kb9vqf | when you get it fixed get a patch and I'll apply it |
| kb9vqf | *generate a patch |
| kb9vqf | Honestly I'd revert the certificate files themeselves (not the C++ sources or headers) to revision 1123812 and see if that alone fixes the problem |
| MobileTurkey | I am getting excited. no time for bed |
| kb9vqf | I suspect the reversion alone will fix it |
| MobileTurkey | good |
| MobileTurkey | so I can just revert the files by getting the old files and replacing the new ones? |
| kb9vqf | you can check out the old source tree with svn co svn://svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/trinity/kdelibs/kio/kssl --revision 1123812 |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MobileTurkey | or is there a tech-savvy wa to do it |
| kb9vqf | nope, that's how |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | you check out the old tree and copy the files to the new one |
| kb9vqf | copy ONLY the certificate files though! |
| kb9vqf | leave the C/C++ sources alone |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | we don't want to revert fixes to the source when trying to repair the certs ;-) |
| MobileTurkey | Understood |
| MobileTurkey | Affirmative |
| MobileTurkey | Rodger That. |
| kb9vqf | 10/4 |
| kb9vqf | :)) |
| MobileTurkey | hehe |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: okay I am going to rebuild. will I need to do a make install or such? |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: I would recommend dpkg-buildpackage |
| kb9vqf | just rebuild all of kdelibs |
| kb9vqf | then install the new packages |
| kb9vqf | reason being I don't remember if Debian massages the certs at all |
| MobileTurkey | does dpkg-buildpackage work if i just do it in kdelibs/? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| MobileTurkey | it just works? or do I need to fudge with it |
| kb9vqf | you need to apt-get source kdelibs into a new directory |
| kb9vqf | then copy the svn files over the existing ones in that new directory |
| kb9vqf | technically apt-get source creates a new subfolder and that is what you need to copy over the contents of |
| MobileTurkey | ;x |
| kb9vqf | it'll be pretty obvious once you get the source via apt-get :) |
| MobileTurkey | okay... |
| MobileTurkey | I am super unfamiliar with the whole apt-hell system |
| kb9vqf | and I'm an expert :) |
| MobileTurkey | good thing too |
| kb9vqf | had tobe |
| MobileTurkey | or else I'd be a duck in water, or whatever that saying is |
| kb9vqf | did your apt-get source work? |
| MobileTurkey | not sure how to do it :| |
| kb9vqf | make a new directory |
| kb9vqf | cd to that directory in a terminal |
| kb9vqf | apt-get source kdelibs-trinity |
| kb9vqf | rm * |
| kb9vqf | cd kdelibs* |
| kb9vqf | rsync -a --exclude=.svn/ <your_new_svn_tree>/* . |
| kb9vqf | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| kb9vqf | cd .. |
| kb9vqf | dpkg -i *.deb |
| kb9vqf | that should be it :) |
| MobileTurkey | so simple! |
| kb9vqf | it is really |
| kb9vqf | I love the .deb system |
| kb9vqf | BTW <your_new_svn_tree> would be /blah/foo/kdelibs |
| kb9vqf | just to make sure you pull the correct set of files: ) |
| MobileTurkey | ok |
| MobileTurkey | this i5 really does help... |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: can I enable it to use multiple cores? |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: okay i updated it with my build |
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| calvin_ | kb9vqf: we got problems |
| calvin_ | kdm is freezing up now |
| calvin_ | kb9vqf: we got problems |
| calvin_ | kdm is freezing up now |
| calvin_ | be it the display config issue ( i think) or the kdelibs i just installed |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: removed the conf in /etc/ so thats broken for now, but kdm is launching ok, now to the certs |
| kb9vqf | yep, makes sense |
| MutantTurkey | the old certs aren't good anymore (the ones I copied over) |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | expired? |
| MutantTurkey | The server certificate failed authenticity test |
| MutantTurkey | Certificate signing authority root files could not be found so certificate is not verifed |
| MutantTurkey | The certificate has not been issued for this host |
| MutantTurkey | valid from ... 2009 -..... 2012 |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: looks like I will need to read how to do it and generate new erts |
| kb9vqf | yeah, we can't ship certs expiring in 2012 :-P |
| kb9vqf | I did it once before and it isn't too bad |
| kb9vqf | just follow the instructions :) |
| MutantTurkey | no the ones from facebook are at 2012 expired. |
| MutantTurkey | but the ones I am using are from 2005 |
| MutantTurkey | so... |
| MutantTurkey | obviously even worse |
| kb9vqf | oh yeah :-P |
| MutantTurkey | I'll just generate new ones |
| MutantTurkey | kde has an awesome crypto config |
| kb9vqf | you can't generate new ones from scratch |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: the header files |
| kb9vqf | oh, ok |
| MutantTurkey | not the actual certs |
| kb9vqf | it's been a while since I did this :) |
| MutantTurkey | somehow they get bundled? |
| MutantTurkey | I am not sure how it works |
| kb9vqf | also I imagine the root cert needs to be updated |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| kb9vqf | *root certs |
| MutantTurkey | maybe all |
| MutantTurkey | I'll do it tomorrow |
| MutantTurkey | I need to sleep this cold off |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I'll also take a look tonight |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: getting really excited for this release though |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MutantTurkey | could just be enough to get the ball rolling with more help |
| kb9vqf | if it's good and reasonably bug-free, then maybe |
| MutantTurkey | i mean I don't think people care to much about bug free.... look at kde4.0 hahahaa |
| MutantTurkey | but seriously, we can use the release to generate press, get users, etc |
| kb9vqf | our audience is somewhat different |
| kb9vqf | our users look for bugs |
| kb9vqf | and are very unhappy if they find them :) |
| kb9vqf | BTW I think all the .pem files in the kssl directory need to be updated with the latest available from the various certificate authorities |
| kb9vqf | that will take a bit of searching online |
| kb9vqf | or maybe from kde4's cert store (hint hint nudge wink) |
| MutantTurkey | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | if they are all published online I will be able to find them |
| MutantTurkey | more worried about getting it working than finding it |
| MutantTurkey | anyway gotta sleep |
| kb9vqf | I bet a simple copy+paste of the .pem files from KDE4 trunk (in GIT?) might work |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | okay i will look |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: tomorrow we will also hopefully work out the bugs with displayconfig |
| MutantTurkey | cya! |
| kb9vqf | gn :) |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: looks like there is a program that you are required to compile to generate the cert |
| MutantTurkey | a small program |
| MutantTurkey | that is in kssl/kssl/ |
| MutantTurkey | cert_extract.c |
| MutantTurkey | gotta build it, I need libdb-dev and of course it's not downloading...crappy school proxy |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also pulling the new libs |
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| Xu_R|StillTired | well, this is good. I managed to get some work done on tdebase today~~ |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: yeah I really need to figure out a VPN option for myself or something, because even ubuntu's repositories are getting blocked out through this connection |
| kb9vqf | oh fun |
| kb9vqf | how long till you are home? |
| MutantTurkey | I think about an hour and a half |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 532 filed by patrick@serru.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=532 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, konqueror looping indefinitely |
| MutantTurkey | i've modified my apt/sources list so I am gettingthe download now |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | of course along with 5000 ubuntu other updates... makes for a long wait |
| MutantTurkey | did you see my message from about the cert_extract program? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay It's installing now |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MutantTurkey | thinking about going to the occupy philly protest tomorrow. my friend works at the paper and I have the hook up to get some cash if I get good footage and pictures |
| MutantTurkey | so might be busy for the next few weeks |
| kb9vqf | well, in that case test the display config and leave the certs to me |
| kb9vqf | *display |
| kb9vqf | looks like we'll be releasing with bugs :( |
| MutantTurkey | I am sure it will smooth over |
| MutantTurkey | did you look at the certs at all |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| kb9vqf | nop |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | I was leaving that to you |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | keep leaving it to me |
| kb9vqf | well, we need that in SVN soon :) |
| MutantTurkey | for a few hours |
| kb9vqf | that blocks release |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | nov 1st? |
| kb9vqf | that's what we're aiming for |
| kb9vqf | note that the code needs to stop changing before that ;-) |
| kb9vqf | there will probably be a 2 week pre-release code freeze |
| kb9vqf | where only critical and simply-patched bugs are fixed |
| kb9vqf | we need that to allow the packaging systems to run |
| kb9vqf | as well as create live cds, etc. |
| MutantTurkey | understand |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | okay so the cert_extract.c depends on libdb1 which is defunct. compat libraries exist but the -dev headers are gone |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | libdb should be backwards compatible |
| kb9vqf | so libdb8 (or whatever is on Ubuntu) should work |
| MutantTurkey | I think that not |
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| MutantTurkey | because there is regular libdb and libdb1 |
| MutantTurkey | I have the regular libdb headers installed. |
| MutantTurkey | ah. seperate packages for C and C++ headers... |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: not compatible, I changed the <db1/db.h> to regular <db.h> and it's no good |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| kb9vqf | look at the KDE4 version :) |
| kb9vqf | if it's a regular C file then it doesn't use Qt |
| MutantTurkey | no it does not |
| kb9vqf | which means we can use the KDE4 variant |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: they also still use the old version. |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | copy over their certs and forget about it :) |
| kb9vqf | and the generated headers |
| kb9vqf | (as long as they do not use Qt you should be fine) |
| MutantTurkey | okay I'll take you word for it. |
| MutantTurkey | I am not sure I am up to the tast |
| MutantTurkey | task |
| MutantTurkey | you may want to look at it |
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| Raevyn | Hello :) So question for anyone really. I am using Firefox and find that if I use the QT theme buttons sometimes disappear until I hover over, then the reappear. The same thing happens with Openoffice. The workaround I discovered is to run them in gtk theme.. but now the desktop looks odd. Is there any fix for this? |
| MutantTurkey | Raevyn: hey :) |
| MutantTurkey | I have also just started seeing this problem with firefox, does it also occur in your tab field? mine happens in the tab area |
| Raevyn | Yea in the tabs :) |
| Raevyn | Though sometimes also in the addon bar below |
| MutantTurkey | would you mind filing a bug report? |
| MutantTurkey | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org |
| Raevyn | sure! |
| MutantTurkey | It's not to hard, and the more info you include will make it easier to track down the problem |
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| MutantTurkey | Raevyn: a screenshot of the suggested area could help, as well as what instances it occurs |
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| MutantTurkey | Raevyn: thanks :) |
| Raevyn | sure.. i will change the theme and do that |
| Raevyn | one moment.. i have a work call |
| MutantTurkey | Raevyn: take your time |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: just wondering, where are the bluetooth related apis that are broken? |
| kb9vqf | libbluez |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I mean is there existing code right now for it? |
| MutantTurkey | for trinity |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | it's shut off though |
| kb9vqf | because of the API change |
| MutantTurkey | where is it? |
| kb9vqf | it's a kioslave somewhere |
| kb9vqf | grep for it |
| MutantTurkey | okay thanks :D |
| kb9vqf | np |
| MutantTurkey | not there :| |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: don't see it |
| kb9vqf | don't have time to help right now, but it is somewhere in the Trinity modules (could be kdeaddons for instance) |
| MutantTurkey | okay thanks |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also another thing with display config, the config files I think are set to the wrong file permissions, should be readable by anyone, only editable by root. rihgt now I can only read as root |
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| kb9vqf | it won't matter much as you have to be root to apply the display config |
| kb9vqf | BTW is the crash fixed? |
| MutantTurkey | about to check |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: but users may want to look at it... it's whatever just seems abnormal because ican view all my other /etc/ files as a regular user. |
| kb9vqf | I do understand and I'm not disagreeing :) |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | okay plugging into my whole setup |
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| MutantTurkey | okay it worked but the system is going a bit whavcky |
| MutantTurkey | X is at 99 percet usage. |
| MutantTurkey | gotta reboot |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: not good |
| kb9vqf | ? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay it definitely messed with my system. I think it was because I set the settings wrong, |
| kb9vqf | most likely |
| kb9vqf | you can most definitely crash buggy Xorg drivers by using RandR 1.3 features :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: no actually I think my system cannot handle it |
| MutantTurkey | possibility |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | what exactly happens?? |
| * kb9vqf is somehow not surprised given that your number of attached monitors was changing spontaneously... | |
| MutantTurkey | well now it works... |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| MutantTurkey | I set it to a non native resolution by accident as well as did "extend" desktop |
| MutantTurkey | the resolutions were all weird and such |
| MutantTurkey | now I have set it to very standard settings and it is working 100% okay |
| MutantTurkey | that means it was probably my driver and display |
| MutantTurkey | not the program |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: though I do have a single gripe about the kcm control modules |
| MutantTurkey | they are not resizeable to a decent small size |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| MutantTurkey | on my laptop I have to scroll up and down to get stuff done :| |
| kb9vqf | ohhh.... |
| kb9vqf | yeah |
| kb9vqf | I noticed that too |
| MutantTurkey | it is a not good thing |
| kb9vqf | it's much, much worse under KDE4 |
| MutantTurkey | It goes against some specification I am sure |
| kb9vqf | actually not :-P |
| MutantTurkey | the one that says " all programs should be resizable under any space" |
| kb9vqf | try doing that to your Web browser |
| kb9vqf | you can't |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: there was some sort of design agreement, It may have beeen just within gnome though |
| kb9vqf | just within Gnome yes, but the easiest way to do that is to either 1) remove features or 2) make you wade through dozens of nested pages ala KDE4 |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| kb9vqf | so be careful what you ask for ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | I understand the problem |
| MutantTurkey | mostly it was a issue for me when programs forced thier size |
| MutantTurkey | this at least is an acceptable solution |
| kb9vqf | What is your screen resolution? |
| MutantTurkey | 1600x900 on desktop, it's good there. on my laptop screen it is 1366x768 |
| MutantTurkey | dinner bbs |
| kb9vqf | ah, so the minimum display should probably be 1024x768 |
| kb9vqf | on some systems this was handled with an "Advanced" button that would fold up little-used settings |
| kb9vqf | anyway, not something that can be tackled for 3.5.13, but something that should definitely have an "enhancement" bug report filed about |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Overall what is your impression of the display configuration tool, now that it has stopped crashing? |
| kb9vqf | Also, the only-readable-as-root issue has been fixed in SVN revision 1257597. |
| MutantTurkey | It is excellent i would say |
| MutantTurkey | on par with the one available from Mac and windows |
| MutantTurkey | better than windows tbh |
| MutantTurkey | not sure if valid: could the displays in the dropbox use their titles? |
| MutantTurkey | as in COMPAQ 2009 and LVDS Lenovo Screen |
| MutantTurkey | even in brackets around it |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: HDMI Output on :0 (HP Display E400 23") |
| MutantTurkey | or some such |
| MutantTurkey | maybe to make it clearer |
| MutantTurkey | not necessary |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also, the primary monitor should not be movable, because I can drag it around it makes it confusing |
| kb9vqf | it does reset after dragging, right? |
| MutantTurkey | I kept trying to reposition it on top of the other one, then realize I had to drag the other one back |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| kb9vqf | good point |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: it resets, but if it was unmoveable it would be good |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | glad it finally worked for you :) |
| kb9vqf | and I assume that automatic application of settings on startup also works properly? |
| MutantTurkey | Also I had an instance where the "Confirm DIsplay Settings" pops up behind my other windows |
| kb9vqf | BTW you will need to poke me later about the primary monitor movable issue |
| MutantTurkey | it needs to be on top no matter what. |
| kb9vqf | yeah, I saw that too |
| MutantTurkey | and yes it works, but if I restart and the primary monitor is gone, all hell will break loose I think |
| kb9vqf | how about you create an Etherpad real quick with any issues you find with the display config utility |
| MutantTurkey | okl |
| kb9vqf | well, no, it shouldn't |
| MutantTurkey | should there be some sort of fallback setting? |
| kb9vqf | in fact if it can't load the config it is supposed to reset to defaults |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | good :) |
| kb9vqf | but please check it :) |
| MutantTurkey | we need to probably test this on more desktops as well? |
| kb9vqf | and also please do create the new Etherpad and put any and all issues with displayconfig in it |
| MutantTurkey | right now |
| MutantTurkey | doing it |
| kb9vqf | yep, testing on desktops would be good, I have done some of that |
| MutantTurkey | another thing, with the test settings button |
| MutantTurkey | it applys them permenantly yes |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
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| MutantTurkey | nevermind |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: o/ |
| kb9vqf | nope, test settings only loads the config temporarily |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| KingSphinx | ? |
| kb9vqf | and does not save the settings to the global files |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: hey (that little o/ is a guy waving his arm) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: good good |
| KingSphinx | Oh, lol, didn't know. Also, decided to wait until 11.10 to reinstall Trinity seeing as it releases next week and all. |
| KingSphinx | Still a bit split about installing "stable" or nightlies, though I am starting to lean a bit towards nightlies... |
| kb9vqf | oneric needs to be built soon...grrr... |
| kb9vqf | and I have the certs to fix still :-P |
| kb9vqf | when it rains it pours! |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: I am all about nightlies |
| MutantTurkey | I always trust upstream, they tend to know more about matters than I do in general |
| MutantTurkey | so nightlys, beta versions, all that good stuff, I love :D |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf:actually my alt tabbing isn't working... |
| MutantTurkey | wait nevermind... weird though |
| KingSphinx | What's new in the nightlies over 3.5.12? (Other than bugfixes and the like, as that's sort of obvious) |
| MutantTurkey | bug fixes, we have a new display configuration tool, conversion to cmake, more work on the Tqt end... |
| MutantTurkey | what else? |
| KingSphinx | Cmake conversion is complete? |
| MutantTurkey | We have converted the core of the desktop |
| MutantTurkey | kdelibs, kdebase etc |
| MutantTurkey | those were the things that were broken with automake |
| MutantTurkey | work is continuing on the other things |
| MutantTurkey | frankly CMake is so much less of a pain than automake |
| KingSphinx | Isn't Automake one of the reasons that KDE pretty much "started over" with 4.0? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ^ |
| MutantTurkey | They (along with numerous projects, actually TONS of them) have been switching away from automake, and other things like svn which many people see as outdated tools |
| KingSphinx | SVN's outdated? |
| MutantTurkey | we have ourselves been migrating certain things to our git |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: not exactly |
| MutantTurkey | but there are other tools that can do the job better in some cases |
| MutantTurkey | that is the same with automake, it is continued to be developed, but many projects especially large ones are, are better suited with a modern make system |
| MutantTurkey | same idea |
| KingSphinx | Then again, I've only ever built two things from SVN (compiled E17 and GNUstep), so it's not much of a difference to me. |
| KingSphinx | That reminds me... is it possible to have E16 and E17 together on the same system? |
| MutantTurkey | yes I think so |
| MutantTurkey | I am not much of a E17 guy or E16 guy |
| MutantTurkey | but it was nice back in the day |
| KingSphinx | Eh, they're okay for what they are, but IMO, Fluxbox is a better WM than either version of E :P |
| KingSphinx | That said, I still love a full-featured DE over a minimalistic WM |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: I like a really good DE, or a really minimal WM (scrotwm or dwm) |
| KingSphinx | Oh yeah! Apparently Fedora's default UUID has changed to 100 instead of 500 :D |
| MutantTurkey | why is that? |
| KingSphinx | *1000 |
| KingSphinx | forgot the third 0 |
| KingSphinx | It's to get in line with most of the other major distros, and it's a welcome relief, to say the least (permissions errors almost screwed over my first install of Trinity) |
| MutantTurkey | good then |
| KingSphinx | Are there still no plans for Red Hat/Fedora RPMs of Trinity? |
| MutantTurkey | I thought someone was working on that |
| KingSphinx | (the whole /opt debacle is why I switched back to Ubuntu) |
| MutantTurkey | We have redhat in our packaging tree |
| MutantTurkey | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=tree&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment%20Packaging&h=f589fa1aa996d6d3513b764e72ced1780478f11e&hb=68d1f8b3fcbf6dd815ad8b62485a981133bddbbf&f=redhat |
| MutantTurkey | looks fairly completed but I am not sure who is running it |
| MutantTurkey | alabator |
| MutantTurkey | is working onit |
| KingSphinx | I take it that the RHEL version won't install in /opt? Or will yum just throw a ton of crap, but allow it? |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: I really don't know. I am not packaging it |
| MutantTurkey | you an email him though. |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: somehow Xorg knows what the manufacturer is and such |
| MutantTurkey | I am not familiar with video interfaces |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also, what about wayland? |
| MutantTurkey | nevermind that also |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: yes, but Xorg does not export that information anywhere useful |
| kb9vqf | we could propose an XRandR-ish extension perhaps |
| kb9vqf | but it would probably be years before it trickled down to the distributions |
| kb9vqf | BTW main features of 3.5.12 are: lots of bugfixes, new displayconfig tool, secure attention key support, CMake conversion of core modules, and the fact that it builds on modern distributions :) |
| K`zan | !! BZ! |
| tbottu | K`zan: Error: "!" is not a valid command. |
| kb9vqf | ???? |
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| KingSphinx | Welp, Steve Jobs has bit the dust. |
| Xu_R | i know DX |
| Xu_R | so sad :( |
| kb9vqf | unfortunately the DRMed legacy that was built lives on... |
| kb9vqf | his earlier stuff was great though! |
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| Raevyn | So has anyone got Kitty to work? lol |
| kb9vqf | What's kitty? |
| Raevyn | its an kde podcast software thing but i think its too old now (sadface) |
| Raevyn | it says that kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9) is required |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | It isn't part of our software distribution (yet) |
| Raevyn | ahh.. can i install it manually? |
| kb9vqf | why don't you file a needs-packaging bug on http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net |
| kb9vqf | most KDE3.5-era software needs modification to work on modern systems |
| kb9vqf | be sure to mention a place to obtain the latest source code :) |
| Raevyn | okie :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 533 filed by raevynsrequiem@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=533 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kitty wont install as it requires kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9) |
| Raevyn | thats me! hehe |
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| MutantTurkey | yeah, steve jobs was a poo poo head. |
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| MutantTurkey | He contributed a lot of good ideas (mostly stolen from linux) and packaged them into his little drm box that worked so well because he made a monopoly for his hardware. |
| MutantTurkey | either way. |
| MutantTurkey | I am sad that he passed, then agan maybe mac will spiral out of control |
| MutantTurkey | only can hope for the best! |
| kb9vqf | Windows$ + Hollywood + the DMCA isn't much better |
| kb9vqf | at least Apple tried to strip DRM from their music |
| kb9vqf | just saying :) |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | not convinced |
| kb9vqf | I'm not arguing Apple wsa good, but instead that M$ is even worse |
| kb9vqf | *was |
| MutantTurkey | lesser of two evils |
| kb9vqf | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | both still evil |
| MutantTurkey | serpent and the snake |
| kb9vqf | from the perspective of individual freedom, quite evil :) |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | tomorrow I am going to protest that! |
| MutantTurkey | or something. |
| MutantTurkey | <not really sure, excuse to go downtown and eat good food> |
| kb9vqf | just be careful |
| MutantTurkey | of course |
| MutantTurkey | this is much better than NY |
| MutantTurkey | talks with the mayor went down, police are prepared, medicare is available. |
| MutantTurkey | nothing ridiculous |
| kb9vqf | just in general, remember that ACTA passed recently, and that even protesting DRM is becoming linked with "piracy" |
| MutantTurkey | mayor approved it basically by saying "these are issues that we need to talk about, and people are here to talk" |
| kb9vqf | that's good |
| MutantTurkey | isn't ACTA bad? |
| kb9vqf | bery |
| kb9vqf | *very |
| MutantTurkey | i only have heard of one song |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elUwRb4DroU |
| kb9vqf | it's more DMCA-style DRM |
| MutantTurkey | some guy rapping about it. |
| kb9vqf | ugh |
| kb9vqf | well, it was signed |
| MutantTurkey | well thats that |
| MutantTurkey | it actually doesn't matter. imho |
| MutantTurkey | laws can be set in stone and it won't matter. |
| kb9vqf | I've already given up on playing anything "copyrighted" on my computers anyway, excepting CDs |
| kb9vqf | or free OTA broadcasts (my favorite!) |
| kb9vqf | certainly won't pay for Windows to do that when I can get a set top box for cheaper, and stuff just works ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | I go with a lot of music from jamendo, or local artists |
| MutantTurkey | only a few big names I support |
| kb9vqf | their anti-piracy measures just make me not buy the disk (and therefore they lose money)--instead I just wait for it to air on TV for free :-) |
| kb9vqf | and if it doesn't air oh well |
| kb9vqf | I must be their worst nightmare of a customer :)) |
| MutantTurkey | all my musical preference is like big band and jazz and some new rock stuff, mostly I have it all on vinyl and CD's i have are few |
| kb9vqf | well, if a CD is available and I like it I buy it, as there is no reason not to |
| kb9vqf | CDs are not protected by DRM generally |
| MutantTurkey | except for that sony dealio |
| kb9vqf | and I like to encourage distribution in non-DRMed formats :) |
| kb9vqf | well, those I don't buy :-P |
| MutantTurkey | ogg is quite nice |
| kb9vqf | if it won't play in a regular CD player then I won't buy it |
| kb9vqf | besides, where I am at there is a good radio station so I get most of my listening enjoyment for free |
| kb9vqf | *local radio station |
| kb9vqf | FM |
| kb9vqf | great sound quality |
| kb9vqf | anyway I digress off topic yet again |
| MutantTurkey | yeah. we have a few really good local stations as well |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: that's allowed you know :P |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | all work and no play makes jack a very dull boy |
| kb9vqf | yepo |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay I gotta get ready |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | thanks for testing the display stuff |
| MutantTurkey | yessir |
| kb9vqf | I'll see what I can do to fix the certs |
| MutantTurkey | oaky |
| MutantTurkey | okay' |
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| KingSphinx | Excuse me if I'm wrong, but technically, isn't ACTA unconstitutional? Treaties need to be ratified by two-thirds of the Senate, and IIRC, ACTA bypassed the Senate entirely. |
| kb9vqf | I'm not sure |
| kb9vqf | It would be interesting to see though |
| kb9vqf | the current administration usually finds excuses to justify its actions |
| kb9vqf | in my opinion the threshold for ratification of a treaty (of any type) should be as high or higher than a constitutional amendment |
| kb9vqf | as that is essentially what a treaty is in practive |
| kb9vqf | *practice |
| kb9vqf | but what do I know? ;-) |
| kb9vqf | IANAL |
| KingSphinx | That's what happens when stuff like this is kept secret for reasons of "national security." |
| KingSphinx | At least the EU had enough sense to not even consider signing it. |
| kb9vqf | so they did not sign at all?? |
| kb9vqf | that's good |
| kb9vqf | sometimes I wish I lived in Germany |
| kb9vqf | they have so many more digital rights than the United States does |
| kb9vqf | last I checked anyway :) |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | maybe sometime this stuff will be repealed |
| kb9vqf | after the average consumer starts paying $100 to watch one movie |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| KingSphinx | Meh, I haven't gone to see a movie since The Last Airbender (it was terrible, but a fun waste of time) |
| kb9vqf | well, we're hardly average |
| kb9vqf | I mean the Jobs-worshipping Apple crowd ;-) |
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| MutantTurkey | dude, kb9vqf today was awesome. I was on TV and all over new coverage |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: what |
| MobileTurkey | wha |
| MobileTurkey | this keyboard... grr |
| MobileTurkey | what's good? |
| kb9vqf | well, fixes are in SVN for the certs and the display config utility |
| MobileTurkey | you rock |
| MobileTurkey | dude I am all over the news! |
| MobileTurkey | http://www.flickr.com/photos/cavalier92/6218261784/in/set-72157627833221226/?reg=1 |
| MobileTurkey | http://www.philly.com/philly/gallery/Occupy_Philadelphia_protest.html |
| MobileTurkey | and a bunch of other places don't feel like copying... |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: how did you resolve the certs? |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: From KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | their certificates are identical to ours normall |
| kb9vqf | *normally |
| MobileTurkey | awesome |
| kb9vqf | apparently only one .crt file got corrupted, probably in the TQt autoconversion |
| MobileTurkey | cool |
| MobileTurkey | well thats resolved |
| MobileTurkey | I gotta go to bed |
| MobileTurkey | talk to you sometime this week |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Feel like working on a nice fat bug? |
| kb9vqf | But 521 |
| kb9vqf | Bug 521 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=521 normal, P5, ---, anixxsus, NEW, Trinity networking breaks with network-manager 0.9 |
| kb9vqf | would be nice if that could be fixed in the next week or so |
| * kb9vqf would prefer to ship 3.5.13 working with nm-0.9 | |
| Qu4Z | Is 3.5.13 shipping soon? :) |
| Qu4Z | I keep meaning to actually contribute to development, but I'm pretty busy at the moment. |
| Xu_R | sure, if I have time this weekend (I hope...) |
| Xu_R | wait |
| Xu_R | didn't she send a patch to the list |
| Xu_R | that you committed? |
| Xu_R | *he |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: The patch only fixed compilation |
| kb9vqf | knetworkmanager doesn't work properly under NM API .09 |
| kb9vqf | primarily because nm API 0.9 dropped the settings DBUS service (surprise surprise) |
| kb9vqf | they now have something called a "secret agent" service that stores the settings instead |
| * kb9vqf thinks it's pretty tacky :) | |
| kb9vqf | Qu4Z: It *should* ship somewhere around the beginning of November |
| kb9vqf | barring any showstopper bugs (e.g. if it won't compile under Oneric, etc.) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 534 filed by midenok@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=534 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Widgets inside Kommander are not moved |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 38 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=38 normal, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Adept Manager not able to add repositories |
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| Xu_R|School | hello world |
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| Xu_R | tbottu, tell kb9vqf oic |
| tbottu | Xu_R: Error: I haven't seen kb9vqf, I'll let you do the telling. |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: oic. I'll take a look at changes then. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: You will want to reference this: http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/api/09/ref-migrating.html |
| Xu_R | kk |
| kb9vqf | It looks like a real mess to be honest |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Read the section "Elimination of the User Settings Service" for what needs to be changed |
| kb9vqf | Also please note that in the Trinity source there are #defines that are set based on the NM API version |
| kb9vqf | so when patching please keep any NM 0.9 changes in a #ifdef / #else / #endif block |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | Gnome tends to really foul things up...something as critical as network-manager should be under the control of a project that doesn't continually try to over-simplify things |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | you know what? it's friday. let me do it now before I head for a much needed nap |
| kb9vqf | and remember as well that the release is coming up very soon |
| kb9vqf | so the changes need to be in SVN probably in the next few days :- |
| Xu_R | yup... |
| * Xu_R looks at all the deadlines he has too >>; | |
| kb9vqf | good luck :) |
| Xu_R | thanks |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Do you think you will be able to handle the knetworkmanager fixes? |
| * kb9vqf just wants to know what to expect :) | |
| Xu_R | maybe. I'll let you know tmrw if I figured it out or not. :P |
| * Xu_R is currently trying to process this info xD | |
| kb9vqf | ok |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay more problems with desktop locker |
| kb9vqf | please elaborate |
| * kb9vqf thinks we might miss the Nov. release date :((( | |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: there is a (nother mayber) window |
| MutantTurkey | after I repoen from sleep, I logged in |
| MutantTurkey | but there was still the window |
| MutantTurkey | I sent s scrot |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno if its the same or more than one was spawned |
| kb9vqf | only after suspend, correct? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: yes |
| MutantTurkey | thats the only time i do it though |
| MutantTurkey | let me get you a picture |
| MutantTurkey | http://imagebin.org/177901 |
| kb9vqf | oh fun |
| kb9vqf | I take it you can interact with your desktop session? |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Can you interact with your desktop session after your first login attempt? |
| kb9vqf | when the screen locker is running normally it should latch on to all X11 input and prevent you from clicking on windows or typing things |
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| kb9vqf | I want to verify that you can't interact with your desktop BEFORE your first login attempt, but that you can AFTER you enter your password once |
| kb9vqf | That will help me nail down the exact cause of the glitch |
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| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: (for the channel log in case you read it): I suspect that kdesktop_lock is not able to close all of its windows, even though it has shut down the root backing window and released the Xorg input lock |
| kb9vqf | but I need you to confirm that the latter two actions have already occurred after you log in onice |
| kb9vqf | *once |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: sorry internet kicked, did you check the lyrics? |
| kb9vqf | lyrics?? |
| kb9vqf | Check the channel log :) |
| MutantTurkey | lyrics.. |
| MutantTurkey | I mean photo |
| MutantTurkey | sorry I am at band practice. I have a bad case of qwertial aphasia |
| kb9vqf | I need some more info from you; check the channel log when you have time |
| kb9vqf | my requests are on the bottom :) |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ok |
| MutantTurkey | might be able to stop in later |
| schreiberstein | Hi MutantTurkey! |
| schreiberstein | I'm using these packages on arch atm. They're awesome. Just FYI. |
| schreiberstein | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=97612&p=1 |
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| Borg^Queen | Hello humans, AIs and others |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay so the screen lock is acting up |
| MutantTurkey | I didn't kill it, i figured i would see if we could get any info while its happening |
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| hoernerfranz | hi all, |
| hoernerfranz | I'm just trying to figure out how to build trinity applications from source |
| hoernerfranz | svn checkout works ok |
| hoernerfranz | cmake is available |
| hoernerfranz | also everything to build kde3/trinity stuff from source (at least for auto* based modules) |
| hoernerfranz | now when I try e.g. to build dolphin from svn (cmake based) |
| hoernerfranz | I get this: |
| hoernerfranz | Unable to find tqt! |
| hoernerfranz | so, I'obviously missing something called tqt |
| hoernerfranz | anyone here can tell me how to get it ? |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: What's the verdict on the knetworkmanager fixes? |
| Xu_R | I'm seeing only a lof of org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings... |
| Xu_R | I'm trying to figure out what NM_DBUS_SERVICE is doing in KNetworkManager |
| kb9vqf | Probably not much |
| kb9vqf | and yes there are a lot of interfaces to NetworkManagerUserSettings |
| kb9vqf | because for all of network-manager's life until 0.9 that was the "preferred way" to interface to it |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| Xu_R | xD |
| kb9vqf | @#!$ Gnome people |
| Xu_R | according to this |
| Xu_R | all that is needed is to change that to org.freedesktop.NetworkManager |
| kb9vqf | try it if you want |
| Xu_R | "and update the D-Bus interface that codes uses to talk to the settings service to org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Settings." |
| kb9vqf | I don't know if that works for secrets |
| Xu_R | second part not so sure XD |
| kb9vqf | (i.e. passwords) |
| kb9vqf | can you try it? |
| Xu_R | sure |
| kb9vqf | i.e. do you have nm 0.9 on one of your machines ? |
| Xu_R | no. |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | that makes things more difficult |
| Xu_R | :-\ |
| Xu_R | i'm seeing if I can fire up an openSUSE factory with NM 0.9 right now... |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: And I don't think it's quite that simple either |
| Xu_R | never is... |
| kb9vqf | storing secrets or user-level connection information system-wide is a Bad IDea |
| kb9vqf | so you'd have to figure out the new permissions API |
| Xu_R | hmm... |
| Xu_R | they do this with user secret agents... |
| Xu_R | "The agent should export the org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.SecretAgent D-Bus interface, but should NOT claim a bus name on the system or session bus." |
| kb9vqf | That *might* directly replace the user settings service, but I'm not 100% sure |
| kb9vqf | I have never been that good with DBUS :-P |
| Xu_R | according to this... it does. |
| kb9vqf | see what you can do to make it work |
| Xu_R | kk |
| kb9vqf | I'm just looking for wireless connections, wired connections to work at this point |
| Xu_R | how would I export the org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.SecretAgent DBus interface?... |
| kb9vqf | I don't know |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: How is knetworkmanager designed? |
| kb9vqf | i.e. |
| kb9vqf | does it export a user sessions service? |
| Xu_R | don't think so... |
| kb9vqf | or does it connect to a user settings service that network-manager exports?? |
| Xu_R | I think it connects to a user settings service that networkmanager exports |
| kb9vqf | if the latter, then you need to use the system-wide configuration service and set the permissions keys |
| * kb9vqf can't type today | |
| Xu_R | hmm... |
| Xu_R | like, it's calling NM_DBUS_SERVICE and such but I can't figure out where that's coming from... |
| kb9vqf | it's a define in the network-manager headers |
| Xu_R | oic |
| kb9vqf | all of the DBUS service names are available in the network-manager headers as #defines |
| Xu_R | o. |
| kb9vqf | It might help to draw a diagram of all data flow and data repositories that were present in the knetworkmanager <--> nm 0.8 system |
| kb9vqf | then remove the user settings service and see what data flows are left dangling |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: You will need to implement the secret agent bit for VPNs to work |
| kb9vqf | so I would start working on that first |
| Xu_R | I think you need to implement it app-wide |
| kb9vqf | yes, that is true |
| Xu_R | for the whole thing to work... |
| Xu_R | btw, you know cmake doesn't build the VPN bits, right? |
| kb9vqf | basically a new C++ file to provide a storage daemon for settings |
| kb9vqf | well I build it with Automake |
| Xu_R | oic. |
| kb9vqf | because of that :) |
| Xu_R | Well, I could just call a register object whenever the application is started... |
| Xu_R | it would automatically unregister itself when the application closes... |
| kb9vqf | if that will work then do it |
| kb9vqf | but something needs to monitor incoming requests on that interface |
| kb9vqf | as well as register with network-manager |
| kb9vqf | and we'll also need to store settings in some kind of backend servic |
| kb9vqf | *service |
| kb9vqf | that can be accessed from the secret-agent service |
| kb9vqf | ughh |
| kb9vqf | are you in over your head on this? |
| Xu_R | I think that shouldn't be an issue because org.freedesktop.NetworkManager works the same way as org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings |
| Xu_R | and once the register object is called |
| Xu_R | nothing else should have to be done... |
| kb9vqf | I was reading that VPNs are broken unless the client provides the secret-agent service |
| kb9vqf | and possibly other connection types as well |
| Xu_R | well, IIRC the whole thing is broken without registering the secret-agent service :-\ |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | so, can you give me a approximate timeline on this yet? |
| kb9vqf | i.e. if it's going to take you 2 years then there will be a big problem :) |
| Xu_R | XD |
| Xu_R | how about I try this register thing in knetworkmanager.cpp |
| Xu_R | throw you a patch |
| Xu_R | and have you inspect :P |
| Xu_R | like... in 15 minutes XD |
| kb9vqf | something tells me it won't work right :-P |
| kb9vqf | the API changes are quite extensiev |
| kb9vqf | *extensive |
| Xu_R | hehehe |
| kb9vqf | better yet, why don't you try it on your machine? |
| kb9vqf | I assume you have a wireless connection available? |
| Xu_R | there are new device states, new active connection states, and WiMAX support... xD |
| kb9vqf | yep, yep |
| Xu_R | I don't have linux on a laptop yet... xD |
| kb9vqf | the device states were handled |
| Xu_R | b/c I only have a desktop |
| kb9vqf | same with the connection states |
| Xu_R | my parents are using windows on laptops ._." |
| kb9vqf | ithe setting sservices are the problem now |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: The comments here are interesting: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/?h=f15&id=fd3c49224a20bf6e60b2ca10befc57c6b82b5a90 |
| kb9vqf | I wonder if it really is that simple |
| kb9vqf | with Gnome stuff usually isn't, but maybe in this case.... |
| * kb9vqf dreams | |
| * Xu_R hopes | |
| Xu_R | http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ApiSimplify |
| Xu_R | did not know about GetSecrets and SetSecrets... oh dear. |
| kb9vqf | heh |
| kb9vqf | have fun! |
| Xu_R | this is why linux is still unpopular - we break so many APIs and ABIs that it pisses off developers |
| Xu_R | XD |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | I was just talking about that the other day |
| kb9vqf | the fact that Linux was percieved as stable and such for so long (pre-2007) was that the main APIs were basically untouchable and backwards-compatibile |
| kb9vqf | POSIX, Xorg, etc. |
| kb9vqf | now it's just a complete mess |
| Xu_R | and now enter this crap. |
| Xu_R | yup. |
| kb9vqf | everyone thinks they can break everything every year |
| kb9vqf | Even this project offers a backwards-compatible version |
| kb9vqf | i.e. we add stuff, sure, but we don't run around REMOVING stuff from our APIs |
| Xu_R | exactly. |
| Xu_R | only remove if it's like... what? 10 years old? ._. |
| Xu_R | and nobody uses it anymore XD |
| kb9vqf | that's the key right there |
| kb9vqf | we still have POSIX stuff in the kernel that has to be at least 30 years old |
| kb9vqf | still in use by millions of people :) |
| Xu_R | EXACTLY! |
| Xu_R | ok, I'm sending a message to the networkmanager ML... xD |
| kb9vqf | ?? |
| kb9vqf | so do you think you will be able to handle the knetworkmanager fixups? |
| * Xu_R is so confused by their API explaination | |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| Xu_R | ok, I sent a message. Hopefully I'll hear from them and they can explain... |
| kb9vqf | can you fix some of the other stuff (DBUS service names for the settings service for example) in the mean time? |
| kb9vqf | I'm going to attempt the promised rebuild for oneiric, but that could blow up completely and leave me fixing other bugs for a while |
| Xu_R | the DBUS service names are fixed |
| Xu_R | I'll look at the wimax stuff and maybe the states |
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| Xu_R | bbiab |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: You should have asked me first before posting to the list ;-) |
| kb9vqf | I could have helped you with those questions |
| kb9vqf | All DBUS access under Trinity is handled via dbus-tqt |
| kb9vqf | it's an interface library |
| kb9vqf | look in knetworkmanager-connection_secrets_dbus.cpp |
| kb9vqf | that is what should possibly become the secret agent service |
| kb9vqf | and as far as the storage of settings I believe knetworkmanager still has to store the settings internally, and give them to network-manager upon request |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Any luck getting network-manager to work? |
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| R4OuL | hi |
| R4OuL | anyone here ? |
| schreiberstein | Hello! A friend of mine is building kde3 (3.5.10) on lfs. We're using glibc-2.14 and libtirpc (cause rpc isn't included in glibc 2.14 anymore). He tries to build kdebase atm. But there is this problem : http://pastebin.com/Ag1PgqrW -- How to fix that? |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Any progress on knetworkmanager? |
| Xu_R | Figuring it out, yes |
| Xu_R | writing the code, somewhat ;) |
| kb9vqf | cool |
| kb9vqf | now for the 1,000,000₰ question: does it work? ;-) |
| Xu_R | ummm... |
| Xu_R | ummm... |
| Xu_R | *shifts eyes* maybe? |
| Xu_R | XD |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | I'll wait for a working version :) |
| Xu_R | I'll get it to you hopefully by the middle of the week. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | while you've been busy with that TDE has grown another little package |
| kb9vqf | avahi-tqt |
| kb9vqf | as Ubuntu completely dropped Qt3 in oneiric |
| Xu_R | oic... so this is another dependency then? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | IMHO this is actually a good thing |
| kb9vqf | as now we can move to the TQt namespace with almost no chance of breaking something |
| kb9vqf | (except kdebindings, but that's its own special problem) |
| Xu_R | :D |
| kb9vqf | looking forward to having a working knetworkmanager...thanks for working on it! :) |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | np |
| Xu_R | hopefully it'll take some workload off the bug problems... |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| Xu_R | ok, ima bbl. parents want me to do something for them |
| Xu_R | ttyl |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: I think I fixed the problem with suspend/hibernate in SVN a few days ago |
| kb9vqf | binaries should be built shortly |
| kb9vqf | it actually isn |
| kb9vqf | *isn't a problem with the desktop lock AFAICT |
| kb9vqf | it was an issue in the smserver |
| kb9vqf | but I'll wait for you to test it after the binaries are built before I claim it's fixed for sure :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay awesome! |
| kb9vqf | binaries could be a few days as I'm trying to get Oneiric to build now |
| MutantTurkey | any problems with oneiric? |
| kb9vqf | so far I've had to move yet another Qt3 interface (for Avahi) to TQt |
| kb9vqf | not sure what else needs to be done yet |
| kb9vqf | There is the problem with network-manager API 0.9 that Xu_R is working ojn |
| kb9vqf | *on |
| MutantTurkey | I have tons of issues with gtk |
| MutantTurkey | on here |
| MutantTurkey | tons |
| MutantTurkey | everything crashes but I don't know where to start |
| MutantTurkey | we have some sort of wrappe rright? |
| kb9vqf | yes we do |
| kb9vqf | kgtk-qt3-kde3 |
| kb9vqf | err...new name is kgtk-qt3-trinity |
| * kb9vqf still hasn't updated his workstation | |
| kb9vqf | is it installed on your machine? |
| kb9vqf | and please be more specific than "everything crashes" :) |
| MutantTurkey | firefox displays icorrectly, geany and transmission also crash seemingly randomly |
| MutantTurkey | possible over column and tree areas |
| MutantTurkey | those are the only gtk apps I use so I dunno what else |
| MutantTurkey | gotta shower and stuff, I'll bbs |
| kb9vqf | ok, can you give me any backtraces? |
| kb9vqf | firefox 4 has known graphical issues, even outside of Trinity |
| kb9vqf | an upgrade to Firefox 5 fixed most of them for m |
| kb9vqf | *me |
| kb9vqf | Firefox |
| kb9vqf | grr |
| kb9vqf | Firefox has poor quality control lately |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | I dont really like the new release model |
| MutantTurkey | what I like is LIBRE office |
| MutantTurkey | they have also a time release |
| MutantTurkey | but they continue to send fixes back to the previous version |
| MutantTurkey | it's just designed better |
| MutantTurkey | frankly I don't like chromes method either |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: firefox 5? firefox 7 is out... |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | I don't run bleeding edge |
| kb9vqf | I have a business to run here |
| kb9vqf | and can't afford to be fighting with a flaky computer all the time |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | what do you do business wise |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| kb9vqf | s/a flaky computer/lots of flaky computers/g |
| kb9vqf | engineering |
| MutantTurkey | I was thinking about going to school for engineering. |
| kb9vqf | if you are good at mathematics, problem solving, etc. then go for it :) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah problem solving is a strength. Math I am fine at, I see it more as a process so I think logically in steps for it |
| kb9vqf | you will use it as a tool in engineering |
| MutantTurkey | it's that or becoming a history or math teacher or computer science degree, or music |
| MutantTurkey | so I am at sort of a crossroads coming up |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | I wish you luck on the decision :) |
| MutantTurkey | the worst part is that I want to do all of them! |
| MutantTurkey | of course computers has always been my sideline hobby, so I think i might just start a linux club at school or something |
| kb9vqf | pick some as hobbies, and pick the one that you still want to do even when you are having a rotten day as your primary focus |
| kb9vqf | that's my best advice |
| kb9vqf | because there will be days when you don't even want to get up and face your job |
| MutantTurkey | right, you need to be able to go in on a crappy day |
| MutantTurkey | teaching is full of those days, my mums a teach so I sort of get the routine |
| MutantTurkey | mostly I am interested in administration |
| kb9vqf | comp sci might be up your alley then |
| MutantTurkey | as for computer science, same deal. I would rather be a project manager, keep the ball rolling, instead of being an actaul coder |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | everyone starts as a coder though |
| MutantTurkey | ye |
| kb9vqf | otherwise they will make terrible managerws |
| kb9vqf | *managers |
| MutantTurkey | my uncle started at microsoft in the 80's |
| MutantTurkey | he retired at 30 |
| kb9vqf | forced retirement or a good one? |
| MutantTurkey | now he works for 6 months and goes on exotic vacations the other six months |
| kb9vqf | good I take it :) |
| MutantTurkey | very good |
| MutantTurkey | except he sort of got bored and depressed so he had to go back to work |
| kb9vqf | yes, I would expect that |
| kb9vqf | those opportunites don't really exist anywhere any more |
| kb9vqf | computers are ubiquitous |
| MutantTurkey | but I am looking longterm, teaching is a great way to keep moving up but have a stable retirement plan etc |
| kb9vqf | but can you deal with a constant stream of students who don't want to learn? |
| kb9vqf | some people can and others get fed up and become jaded, lousy instructors |
| MutantTurkey | I think so, I mean I quit high school and went to community college |
| kb9vqf | just something to think about :) |
| MutantTurkey | right, devils advocate is always your best advocate |
| MutantTurkey | but with history, it's actually more of a human studies class, incorportaing history but relating it to modern day, economics, teaching about the goverment, political parties |
| MutantTurkey | I am pretty intersted in all of that |
| kb9vqf | can't help too much there; I do keep tabs on politics but more from the long view; i.e. how current civilizations compare to ancient ones and attempting to predict outcomes of current actions, etc. |
| kb9vqf | based on historical evidence |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | exactly what they are focusing on |
| MutantTurkey | "thematic approach vs hard numbers |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | it doesn't matter when jefferson was alive, rather what he said |
| kb9vqf | so you would be looking at more of a collegiate position? |
| MutantTurkey | Depends if i get my masters |
| MutantTurkey | I could have my masters at 21 though so I might just do it |
| kb9vqf | well, I need to get going, but if you run into more GTK apps crashing please grab backtraces |
| kb9vqf | and I wish you luck on your decision :) |
| kb9vqf | the backtraces will indicate if Trinity is even involved in causing the crash |
| kb9vqf | remember a lot of people don't know how to program these days and the application itself could be inherently unstable... |
| kb9vqf | *GTK application |
| MutantTurkey | It is trinity |
| MutantTurkey | i am almost sure |
| MutantTurkey | because it is twice happening in the same type of graphical area |
| kb9vqf | ok...backtrace into bug report if you are sure |
| MutantTurkey | I'll send you some backtraces |
| MutantTurkey | I don't really follow them to well |
| kb9vqf | post them in a bug report |
| kb9vqf | with 3.5.13 release coming up they may not be looked at until after the move to GIT |
| MutantTurkey | yes it was trinity |
| kb9vqf | also make sure that your debugging symbols are installed |
| MutantTurkey | for gtk? |
| MutantTurkey | i have kdelibs-dbg installed |
| kb9vqf | kdebase-trinity-dbg at a minimum |
| kb9vqf | gtk debug symbols for the app in question would also help |
| kb9vqf | then let it crash again and regrab the backtrace |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | gdb APP, run, bt |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | bt is typed after the segfault shows up |
| kb9vqf | or SIGABORT, or whatever the error is |
| kb9vqf | and the please put it in a new bug report with detailed information (and possibly screenshots of the affected area) |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: as I thought, It's the overlay scrollbar i think |
| MutantTurkey | not sure though, but those areas seem affected |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 535 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=535 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Gtk apps crash when using kgtk |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: there ya go |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 535 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=535 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Gtk apps crash when using kgtk |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 468 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=468 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kgtk-qt3-kde3 crashes gnumeric on "File/Save As" |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: any help? |
| MutantTurkey | rather, do you want more information about that kgtk bug? |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: See the bug report |
| kb9vqf | I need a detailed method to generate the crash |
| MutantTurkey | okay just saw it |
| kb9vqf | as no matter what I do I can't crash it here :-P |
| MutantTurkey | :| dang |
| MutantTurkey | I'll try and reproduce it methodically |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | dag I can't crash it now either. |
| MutantTurkey | : |
| MutantTurkey | :| looking like a fool |
| MutantTurkey | I'll look into it tomorrow, I've got a english paper, any further attempts to communicate tonight are just attempts to distract myself! xd |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 42 from CONFIRMED to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=42 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, gtk-qt-engine-kde3 does not work properly |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 505 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=505 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kgtk-qt3-trinity 3.5.13-0debian7+r1246260+pr1 can't be used |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 516 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=516 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Malfunction with Audacity |
| MutantTurkey | woot woot |
| kb9vqf | Got bugs? Get Orkin |
| kb9vqf | Or the Trinity devs ;-) |
| kb9vqf | Here's hoping kgtk is fixed up nicely--if so, we now have something else KDE4 doesn't :) |
| kb9vqf | namely nice open/save dialogs for a wide variety of GTK apps |
| kb9vqf | IIRC the KDE4 code that serves a similar purpose has not been touched in years |
| kb9vqf | and was based on the code that is in Trinity SVN |
| kb9vqf | so it should fail with Chrome, etc. |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | the geany dialogs don't work either |
| kb9vqf | fixes are in SVN as of a few minutes ago |
| kb9vqf | that was one of the first things I fixed :) |
| MutantTurkey | oh boy |
| MutantTurkey | dude you are on a roll |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: do you think we can do .13 on time? |
| kb9vqf | depends on Xu_R |
| kb9vqf | and his knetworkmanager fixes |
| Xu_R | (and packaging, don't forget that DX) |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: get choo butt into gear fool! |
| Xu_R | although the packaging can hold out for a little longer past .13 |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: are we going to do bugfix releases after that? I was meditating on it quite a bit |
| MutantTurkey | you know 3.5.13.1 3.5.13.2 etc, |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | depends on donations |
| kb9vqf | so if you want to see them get some donations coming in ;-) |
| kb9vqf | you know, fundraise a bit |
| kb9vqf | the problem is that each . release sucks down developer time and build farm resources |
| kb9vqf | now that I am building for 6 distributions on 2 architectures (which may increase to 3 architectures by 3.5.14) you can see that each release will use a LOT of resources |
| kb9vqf | frankly I can't afford that right now |
| kb9vqf | then there's the whole infrastructure for cherry picking patches |
| kb9vqf | which goes back to developer time |
| kb9vqf | you can't autogenerate a release |
| kb9vqf | it's not like the nightly builds |
| kb9vqf | even the nightly builds only rebuild the changed component(s) |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | sorry :) |
| MutantTurkey | fair enough |
| MutantTurkey | no reason to be sorry, maybe we need to make it more publicly clear that we have Nightly builds and we have stable release |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | IMHO that's enough |
| MutantTurkey | thats good for me |
| MutantTurkey | we need to make that clear then |
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| kb9vqf | Finally got kdebase to build on oneiric...hopefully the other packages will go faster than kdebase did! |
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| Xu_R|School | well, this is not that great DX |
| Xu_R|School | openSUSE generates its avahi spec files on-the-fly for certain bindings |
| Xu_R|School | that makes it a lot harder to get avahi-tqt in unless it ends up upstream |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: on the note of kgtk I have issues with libreoffice |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: so we have a avahi wrapper now |
| MobileTurkey | thats god |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: how can I enable debug with cmake? |
| MutantTurkey | cmake --help is unuseful. |
| MutantTurkey | got it |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay I've finally figured out how to make legit backtraces. I've found the problem with geany I think, at least tracked it al lthe way back |
| MutantTurkey | it's the qt engine |
| kb9vqf | post the complete backtrace to your bug report |
| kb9vqf | along with how to crash it so that I can test the fix(es) |
| MutantTurkey | it's hard to reproduce. |
| MutantTurkey | basically when you have a C file loaded, the side bar with the function list loaded up, and you resize it, sometimes it crashs, and sometimes when you just hover the area |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | mention that in the bug report |
| MutantTurkey | literally to get it to crash I just dragged it randomly for a good 30 seconds |
| kb9vqf | and post the new backtrace :) |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | uploaded new backtrace |
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| MutantTurkeyX | Xu_R: yo doode |
| MutantTurkeyX | kb9vqf: another idea for the bug tracker, should have an "Applications" Component? because we have plenty of apps in that dir and many of them don't fit under the other categories |
| kb9vqf | non-core applications |
| MutantTurkeyX | do you like that idea? |
| kb9vqf | right now I am very concerned about oneiric |
| kb9vqf | looks like Automake changed |
| kb9vqf | and now each package I have tried is failing to build due to stupid little problems |
| MutantTurkeyX | automake changed again? |
| MutantTurkeyX | :| |
| MutantTurkeyX | I don't understand their motivation with breaking backward compat all the time |
| kb9vqf | it seems that all the libraries are not being passed to the linker |
| kb9vqf | e.g. lots of this |
| kb9vqf | /usr/bin/ld: contactlist/.libs/libkopetecontactlist.a(kopetemetacontactlvi.o): undefined reference to symbol 'KImageEffect::toGray(QImage&, bool)' |
| kb9vqf | /usr/bin/ld: note: 'KImageEffect::toGray(QImage&, bool)' is defined in DSO /opt/trinity/lib/libkdefx.so so try adding it to the linker command line |
| kb9vqf | /opt/trinity/lib/libkdefx.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation |
| kb9vqf | if each package has to be fixed the next release will be 6 months from now |
| MutantTurkeyX | did their method for linking libraries change? |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea |
| MutantTurkeyX | what version of automake is it? |
| kb9vqf | some stuff also broke in CMake |
| MutantTurkeyX | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | 1:1.11.1-1ubuntu1 |
| MutantTurkeyX | yeah |
| MutantTurkeyX | Automake 1.11 fails to work in a number of situations that Automake 1.4, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9 and 1.10 did, so has been renamed so that the previous version can continue to be made available. |
| MutantTurkeyX | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+package/automake |
| kb9vqf | can I see the bug report on the failures? |
| kb9vqf | i.e. should I bother working around them? |
| kb9vqf | remember this release needs to work for about a year |
| MutantTurkeyX | right |
| MutantTurkeyX | does oneiric provide older versions of automake? |
| kb9vqf | on systems such as Gentoo who wil have newer versions of things... |
| kb9vqf | yes, but see above :) |
| MutantTurkeyX | or arch. :| |
| MutantTurkeyX | right |
| MutantTurkeyX | what broke in cmake? was it linker related? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkeyX | maybe ubuntu changed their method then. |
| MutantTurkeyX | if they are both related. |
| kb9vqf | I have no idea |
| kb9vqf | it was just one library that failed to link to another shared library from a different directory |
| kb9vqf | under CMake |
| kb9vqf | could have been a bug for all I know |
| kb9vqf | I hardcoded the linker flag and all is well |
| MutantTurkeyX | okay |
| MutantTurkeyX | here is another thing I see |
| MutantTurkeyX | do you have binutils-gold installed? |
| MutantTurkeyX | on oneiric |
| MutantTurkeyX | "Gold is a new linker, still in development, which is faster than the current linker included in binutils. It currently fails to link some applications and libraries" |
| kb9vqf | nope |
| MutantTurkeyX | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | automake isn't passing all the linker flags that it used to when all_libraries is used |
| kb9vqf | $(all_libraries) |
| kb9vqf | I ran into this a while back in koffice |
| kb9vqf | it seems that every new release of automake forces me to hardcode more linker flags |
| kb9vqf | on one hand that isn't a bad thing |
| MutantTurkeyX | :| |
| MutantTurkeyX | hardcoding rather than dynamic? |
| kb9vqf | in fact the original automake files could be broken for all I know |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkeyX | okay |
| MutantTurkeyX | well shucks. |
| kb9vqf | the problem is the amount of time this usually takes |
| kb9vqf | (to fix) |
| MutantTurkeyX | right |
| MutantTurkeyX | a lot of manual editing of alot of files |
| MutantTurkeyX | I've gotta run to macroeconomics class, but I'll be on in 20 once i settle in and boot up my lappy |
| MutantTurkeyX | gl |
| kb9vqf | interestingly all of the failures so far have been on linking executables |
| kb9vqf | not shared objects |
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| MutantTurkeyX | did they change the library paths again or something? |
| MutantTurkeyX | kb9vqf: I am just looking around, but is it the order in which the links are being passed from gcc? apparently the libs now have to be at the end of your gcc command:: gcc file.c -o file.o -lib |
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| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: you might be right! |
| kb9vqf | where did you find that info? |
| MobileTurkey | |
| MobileTurkey | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853881 |
| kb9vqf | when did it change? |
| MobileTurkey | well it's ben like that. but apparently its now forced |
| MobileTurkey | also, I don't know how I just went "away" |
| kb9vqf | oh yuck |
| kb9vqf | ick ick ick |
| MobileTurkey | ? |
| kb9vqf | the change :-P |
| MobileTurkey | yea |
| kb9vqf | of all the stupid dumb inbicilic things to break software compilation over |
| MobileTurkey | if thats it, it's bad but not terrible |
| MobileTurkey | because apparently everyone is switching to that. |
| kb9vqf | it means I have to dig around in an automake file now |
| MobileTurkey | but I don't see why it's nessecary |
| kb9vqf | a huge one |
| kb9vqf | and try to figure out where to switch the linker flag order |
| MobileTurkey | the big kahuna |
| MobileTurkey | the automake files to end all automake files |
| kb9vqf | it gets worse |
| kb9vqf | it isn't ONLY the linker flag order |
| kb9vqf | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition |
| MobileTurkey | god damnit |
| kb9vqf | basically that says I have to add every stupid library |
| kb9vqf | to the linker flags |
| kb9vqf | this could take a while |
| MobileTurkey | well at least there are some docs |
| kb9vqf | yes, and there are 3GB of source code waiting to be picked through |
| kb9vqf | at one package per day it will take around 100 days |
| kb9vqf | so at least three months |
| kb9vqf | unless other packages are built better |
| kb9vqf | so...do I release now and push out a .14 and .15 update before 3.6? |
| kb9vqf | (that could get ugly) |
| kb9vqf | or do we wait and have yet another stupid distro decision cause even more problems? |
| MobileTurkey | hmmm |
| MobileTurkey | I don't see a reason why we need to be on ubuntus schedule |
| MobileTurkey | frankly I think a 6 month schedule is terrible for ubuntu and causes a ton of issues |
| MobileTurkey | I mean without worrying about ubuntu's release, we can open more time to fix bugs. |
| kb9vqf | yes, but Trinity will look more outdated if it is always available for the current Ubuntu release - 1 |
| kb9vqf | as in it won't build on new distributions |
| kb9vqf | users don't care about distributons breaking things |
| kb9vqf | they only notice "hey, that software doesn't work with my Ubuntu! Time to try KDE4..." |
| MobileTurkey | right |
| MobileTurkey | good point |
| MobileTurkey | so can we automate this at all? |
| kb9vqf | nope |
| kb9vqf | the original people who wrote the Makefile.am files did so under the assumption that indirect linking was valid |
| kb9vqf | as it had been for decades |
| kb9vqf | the only way to fix this is to compile each package, note the failure(s), fix them, recompile, fix the next set of errors, wash, rinse, repeat, go insane |
| kb9vqf | A lot of other people are steamed as well: http://old.nabble.com/DSO-linking-changes-for-wheezy-td30086040.html |
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| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein:yo |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: Hello! :-) |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| schreiberstein | did some homework... and booted my amazing archlinux including kde3... |
| schreiberstein | and you? ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | wait you have it on kde3 or trinity? |
| MutantTurkey | and I am just wasting away in class |
| schreiberstein | trinity |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=97612 |
| schreiberstein | compiz + vmware workstation runs well too |
| MutantTurkey | yeah that is the older 3.5.12 verison |
| schreiberstein | yep... but i need a stable one. |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | 3.5.13 is on the way! |
| schreiberstein | lol |
| schreiberstein | it was announced since on year if i remember right.. |
| schreiberstein | *or more than one year |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| MutantTurkey | feel free to help |
| schreiberstein | lol |
| schreiberstein | i don't have much time for that... |
| schreiberstein | school.... linux from scratch, programming ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | school as well |
| schreiberstein | don't misunderstand me.. i like trinity and the fact that kde3 is working on up to date systems.. |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: in which grade? |
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| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: WB! |
| MutantTurkey | haha |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay so the code you told me to paste in actually makes it crash too, because I commented out the function and it still crashed, then i commented out the function and the printf and it doesn't crash now. |
| MutantTurkey | so ? |
| kb9vqf | what was the output? |
| kb9vqf | I asked you to run it in the termina |
| kb9vqf | there should have been a series of numbers printed right before the crash |
| MutantTurkey | nope |
| MutantTurkey | because the printf function was crashing i wasn't getting anything |
| kb9vqf | uhh...then you have some serious memory corruption there |
| MutantTurkey | wait seriously? |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| kb9vqf | try printing each of the requested values on its own line with its own printf statement |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | good call |
| MutantTurkey | I mean there were warnings when that compiled.... |
| MutantTurkey | ive been doing htis all in gdb |
| kb9vqf | that's fine |
| kb9vqf | what were the warnings? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: just like floats cast as doubles etc |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | well, ignore 'em for now |
| kb9vqf | see which printf crashes |
| MutantTurkey | okay trying now |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: it seems to go through twice then crash |
| MutantTurkey | http://pastebin.com/KvrFkPhS |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| kb9vqf | does it always crash before it can print "widget state"? |
| * kb9vqf may have an idea here | |
| MutantTurkey | it never can print the widget state |
| MutantTurkey | it always says "(nil)" |
| MutantTurkey | okay class is over, gotta move downstairs |
| MutantTurkey | bbs |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: What I mean is that it can't even print the text "widget state" |
| kb9vqf | before crashing |
| kb9vqf | I think I know what might be causing that |
| kb9vqf | poke me when you are bavk |
| kb9vqf | *back |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: sorry got held up. you said you might have an idea? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| MutantTurkey | ok I am all ears |
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| kb9vqf | you will notice that the printf for "widget state" actually has a function as its parameter |
| kb9vqf | right before that printf put another printf with the parameter of that function and a %p as the format designator |
| MutantTurkey | so the erro ris the printer state |
| MutantTurkey | or the widget state rather |
| kb9vqf | I think the widget state printer might be invalid |
| kb9vqf | just a hunch |
| kb9vqf | *pointer |
| MutantTurkey | 489 printf("widget state: %p\n", GTK_WIDGET_STATE(parent)); |
| MutantTurkey | yes i think it is |
| MutantTurkey | let me check the warnings |
| MutantTurkey | http://pastebin.com/9LMDeDzh |
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| kb9vqf | ah, OK |
| kb9vqf | I don't have the source in front of me ATK |
| kb9vqf | ATM |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | I do |
| kb9vqf | so print out the pointer to parent for me |
| kb9vqf | before you print out the GTK_WIDGET_STATE(parent) vaule |
| kb9vqf | *pointer value |
| kb9vqf | It's probably crashing in GTK_WIDGET_STATE |
| kb9vqf | but I don't know who provides that macro |
| MutantTurkey | GTK_WIDGET_STATE is deprecated |
| MutantTurkey | now there is gtk_get_widget_state which returns the enum GtkWidgetState |
| kb9vqf | a function instead of a macro? |
| kb9vqf | sounds good to me :) |
| MutantTurkey | or GtkStateType i think |
| kb9vqf | what happens if you replace GTK_WIDGET_STATE with gtk_get_widget_state? |
| MutantTurkey | well i think it should work... |
| kb9vqf | or whatever the replacement is? |
| kb9vqf | try it :) |
| kb9vqf | remember I can't crash it here |
| MutantTurkey | because the draw_arrow function returns that enum |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | which is weird |
| MutantTurkey | but it keeps happening to me and it's reproducable |
| kb9vqf | I'm on maverick |
| kb9vqf | it is quite possible that something changed in Natty |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| kb9vqf | in GTK that is |
| MutantTurkey | forgot my glasses today = can't see anything |
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| MobileTurkey | yeah that might have just done the trick |
| MobileTurkey | in fact I am certain it was |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | send a patch to the bug report? |
| kb9vqf | also, when was the replacement function introduced? |
| * kb9vqf needs to know so that he doesn't break the Lucid builds | |
| kb9vqf | if it was a few years ago then there won't be any problems :) |
| kb9vqf | BTW this DSO linking stuff is actually making me link MORE libraries against each executable than Automake would normally :-P |
| kb9vqf | because there is no way I am going to sit there and guess what libraries are actually needed for each and every linked object |
| kb9vqf | instead there is a standard set of Qt/kdecode/kdeui/kdefx/kio that I am applying to each failing object |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | people don't think about all of the consequences when they set policy |
| MobileTurkey | I mean isn't gtk2 deprecated anyway? |
| MobileTurkey | since version 2.20 |
| MobileTurkey | march 23 2010 |
| MobileTurkey | was when that was release |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | well, I'll try it |
| MobileTurkey | wawnt me to send a patch? |
| kb9vqf | it *might* be in lucid |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | please send the patch to the bug report |
| MobileTurkey | also wasn't bonobo deprecated? |
| kb9vqf | no idea |
| kb9vqf | what is it? |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | not sure |
| MobileTurkey | it was part of the gtk/gnome library hell |
| MobileTurkey | anyway I'll send a patch |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
| kb9vqf | there is one nice thing that is now enabled by default |
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| kb9vqf | building now fails if a reference to temporary is passed :) |
| kb9vqf | that should help catch any odd little crashing bugs |
| MobileTurkey | this wifi sucks... |
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| MobileTurkey | this wifi is terrible.... |
| MobileTurkey | autokicks you every 15 minutes or so |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: also fixing up the other warnings |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: also fixing up the other warnings |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | sounds good |
| MobileTurkey | I keep seeing this one alot with printf |
| MobileTurkey | things get formated with a %d but they are doubles |
| MobileTurkey | but I dont think printf has a way to show doubles as a double |
| kb9vqf | double needs to be %f |
| MobileTurkey | isn't a double some sort of floating? |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | thanks :) |
| * kb9vqf would hate to see an ImmobileTurkey :-P | |
| kb9vqf | unless it's Thanksgiving |
| MobileTurkey | actually, that's the constant joke in my local channel |
| MobileTurkey | thanksgiving is a time of much ridicule |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | sorry...couldn't resist when you tacked on Mobile instead of Mutant ;-) |
| MobileTurkey | actually it's cast as a type double (*)(double) |
| kb9vqf | what line @? |
| kb9vqf | line # rather |
| MobileTurkey | so i get: the format ‘%f’ expects type ‘double’, but argument 3 has type ‘double (*)(double)’ |
| MobileTurkey | 85 |
| MobileTurkey | 85 |
| kb9vqf | does %p fix it? |
| kb9vqf | it sounds like they are trying to print a pointer |
| MobileTurkey | no idea |
| MobileTurkey | i get confused with pointers sometimes |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| MobileTurkey | fixed |
| kb9vqf | well, if %f doesn't fix it then try %p :) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MobileTurkey | I am usually pretty good, but a double (*)(double) just confuses me |
| kb9vqf | it is a cast from the pointer of type double to another double |
| MobileTurkey | i figured I am going to fix as many warnings as I can along the way |
| kb9vqf | and will only work on certain architectures |
| MobileTurkey | why that is neccesary i don't know |
| kb9vqf | it was a hack from someone who didn't know about %p probably |
| kb9vqf | every programmer has gaps in his/her knowledge somewhere |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| MobileTurkey | anyway fixing up warnings is usually easy and improves quality of code |
| MobileTurkey | actually, suckless.org is my favorite group of programmers, they are very concise and strict. they treat warnings as errors so none of that crap ever happens |
| kb9vqf | yeah, would be nice, but it seems that some standards just keep changing, so keeping up with all warnings would require an army of programmers |
| MobileTurkey | its true |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: uploaded |
| MobileTurkey | but they are typically not to harsh |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | did you do this from SVN? |
| kb9vqf | can you run svn diff for me? |
| kb9vqf | I don't like wholesale replacing files |
| kb9vqf | because it is hard to tell what changed |
| MobileTurkey | i did... |
| MobileTurkey | whoops |
| MobileTurkey | uploaded file instead of patch :| |
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| MobileTurkey | lol |
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| MobileTurkey | okay actually attached kb9vqf |
| MobileTurkey | okay actually attached kb9vqf |
| kb9vqf | ah, much better |
| kb9vqf | BTW there's an echo in here ;-) |
| Z_God | aahhh, this is crazy |
| Z_God | suddenly kmozilla doesn't work anymore with |
| Z_God | can't open the module |
| Z_God | I reverted all the changed I had made but it still won't work |
| Z_God | changes* |
| kb9vqf | huh?? |
| kb9vqf | weird |
| Z_God | maybe if I wipe my .trinity ? |
| * kb9vqf has no idea how that would help... | |
| kb9vqf | would be better to debug it now IMHO |
| kb9vqf | obviously if it can get stuck in this state...then it will to some hapless user in the future :-/ |
| Z_God | ok, I created another user |
| kb9vqf | *will happen |
| Z_God | yes, true, maybe it can break itself |
| Z_God | same problem with another user |
| Z_God | so it's in my trinity install |
| Z_God | the only problem, I'm getting no other output than this message |
| Z_God | konqueror creates this dialog |
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| kb9vqf | huh |
| kb9vqf | well, I'm not sure how to debug it :) |
| Z_God | it links against kgtk2 now I see |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| Z_God | I guess that won't just cause smth like this |
| kb9vqf | no sure |
| kb9vqf | *not |
| kb9vqf | you may need to get more information somehow from it |
| kb9vqf | sorry I can't help much right now |
| Z_God | yep, indeed I need more info |
| kb9vqf | my hands are full with the DSO linking changes in oneiric |
| Z_God | it seems there is a binary incompatibility somehow, but I'm not sure |
| Z_God | I'll try a full rebuild of kdebindings |
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| MobileTurkey | this network is freaking terrible. They actually have a ubuntu configuration, but it freaking depends on gnome-keyring for not reason |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: Now that you mention it the linkage of a library in a folder above the mozilla plugin had to be changed |
| kb9vqf | so that might explain it |
| kb9vqf | a full rebuild is always a good idea when the build system changes in any way |
| Z_God | it seems it doesn't help |
| Z_God | I just did a complete rebuild |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: okay any other easy bugs for me to hunt down? :P |
| kb9vqf | look through the bugtracker I guess |
| MobileTurkey | I was looking at kpdf and converting it to poppler but that is going to be a huge project I think |
| MobileTurkey | how's oneiric going? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 535 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=535 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Gtk apps crash when using kgtk |
| kb9vqf | slowly |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: This is the kind of nastiness that bad policy decisions make: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1258263 |
| kb9vqf | even with that scattergun approach to fixing the issue I am sure there are a lot of problems remaining |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| Z_God | great I found a new trick :) |
| Z_God | ldd -r |
| Z_God | I'm getting loads of undefined symbols |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| Z_God | things like _ZTI9XPartHost |
| Z_God | even with a fresh compilation... |
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| kb9vqf | Z_God: You did setup your environment variables, correct? |
| Z_God | which ones? |
| kb9vqf | you mentioned that there were environment variables required for it to find the Mozilla/XULRunner stuff |
| Z_God | only the ones for running kmozilla |
| Z_God | yes, those are working, I can run kmozilla manually without problems |
| kb9vqf | well, here's what that symbol is: |
| kb9vqf | c++filt _ZTI9XPartHost |
| kb9vqf | typeinfo for XPartHost |
| Z_God | but konqueror can't load the kpart |
| Z_God | because of these missing symbols |
| Z_God | it seems the compilation broke |
| kb9vqf | see what you can do to debug it |
| kb9vqf | i.e. figure out how it should be linked |
| Z_God | I have no clue about how these symbols and so on are resolved |
| Z_God | there is a file xparthost_kpart.o |
| Z_God | I suppose they should be in there |
| Z_God | nm lists that symbol in there |
| Z_God | but it seems the lib is not 'linked' with the object? |
| Z_God | or not built with it |
| Z_God | I'm not sure how this should work |
| kb9vqf | sorry...busy with the oneiric DSO problem |
| Z_God | ok, thanks for checking, it seems at least I'm on the right track |
| Z_God | I hope I can look at the issue again in the weekend, maybe there'll be a magical fix :) |
| Z_God | good luck with oneiric, would be great to see a release with it!! |
| Z_God | I'm off to bed! |
| Z_God | good night! (day) |
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| Xu_R|School | kb9vqf: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2011-October/msg00086.html |
| Xu_R|School | do you think it would be easier to backport their work? |
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| rzs19 | i just want to say thanks for programming on trinity desktop :) |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: is our broken bluetooth support even in the svn? I am going crazy. i've looked everywhere! |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: From plasma? With a completely different UI model and missing features? unlikely. But, if you are referring to backporting their backend nm-0.9 interface to our knetworkmanager GUI, then yes, that would be a good idea |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 536 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=536 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KAudioCreator: Can't name last track |
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| Raevyn | Hello. So Im curious if anyone was able to get the IM client Kopete to connect to Facebook? I see the newer version can but the one in Trinity is giving me issues but I might be entering something wrong. Oh also, screenshots are coming later today for the weird graphical glitches in gtk themes |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.12 or 3.5.13? |
| Raevyn | 3.5.12 |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | there are some XMPP fixes in 3.5.13 |
| kb9vqf | (3.5.13 isn't released yet, but nightly builds are available) |
| Raevyn | ohhh.. how would I upgrade? |
| kb9vqf | there are some instructions on the mailing list |
| kb9vqf | or you could wait a few weeks for the real release :) |
| Raevyn | I think I will wait for the real release lol |
| Raevyn | thank you though! |
| Raevyn | Im not desperate yet :P |
| kb9vqf | np |
| Raevyn | oh well, I was looking at it appears I can just add the ppa to upgrade to 3.5.13? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | both the nightly builds and the nightly build dependencies PPAs (2 PPAs total) |
| Raevyn | kk ty :) |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | oh great, the Wine site was compromised :-X |
| kb9vqf | If anyone here has anything to do with Wine be aware your password has been stolen |
| Raevyn | ick.. thats too bad |
| kb9vqf | fortunately I use a low grade password for FOSS stuff as there is no real harm in an attacker having access to free software ;-) |
| kb9vqf | *FOSS software |
| kb9vqf | I'm sure others do too |
| kb9vqf | with any luck the attacker will realize the database is pretty much worthless and forget about it |
| Raevyn | Hopefully.. I mean honestly I would think most people using WINE are probably aware of security protocols.. for the majority at least |
| kb9vqf | except for dumb dumb user that heard about this great new OS called Ubuntu and was told to install Wine |
| kb9vqf | he/she would get a lesson in security protocol the hard way I think |
| kb9vqf | some people should just stick with Macs :) |
| kb9vqf | oh fun...the Bugzilla was compromised too :-X |
| kb9vqf | Wine bugzilla that is, not ours ;-) |
| kb9vqf | that is the most likely place for n00bie Linux users to use their banking passwords I would think |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: of course I am referring to their backend XD |
| kb9vqf | well, see what you can do with it :) |
| kb9vqf | I assume I won't have something midweek? |
| Xu_R | if I don't have anything thursday, then it's a no-do for me unless a miracle happens D: |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Xu_R | sorry :( |
| kb9vqf | what do you have so far? |
| Xu_R | adding all the WiMAX and extra states in... |
| kb9vqf | so nothing with the scret agent stuff? :( |
| Xu_R | not really - been scratching my head about how to implement it... but the email about the watcher and secret keys gives something to think about :-\ |
| Xu_R | school is so busy right now - I even have a mandated programming internship coming up in a month that lasts for a year. this is going to be hectic... |
| kb9vqf | well, on Thursday send me what you have and I guess I'll just have to delay the release |
| Xu_R | DX I don't want you to delay on my behalf :'( I'll see what I can do... |
| Xu_R | btw, do you happen to have an API doc for dbus-tqt anywhere? |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: No, it's self-documented in the headers |
| Xu_R | ok |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: o/ |
| MutantTurkey | I've been looking at solid, the hardware qt interface |
| MutantTurkey | seems pretty legit, but also very closely tied with kde4. |
| kb9vqf | yep, and we don't want ties with that bloated, shiting piece of garbage |
| kb9vqf | *shifting |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | but there is always udev, udisks, upower, u whatever. |
| MutantTurkey | that seems to be shifting as well.. |
| MutantTurkey | sudo apt-get upgrade |
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| kb9vqf | which is why I have not replaced HAL yet |
| kb9vqf | and Qt will be slower than upower/udisks/etc. |
| kb9vqf | it's another layer in between |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | so you think that ud* is the way to go? |
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| kb9vqf | yes |
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| Raevyn | hello again.. okay so, I added the nightly build ppa to my sources list, and the key and did apt-get update. will it now automatically find the updates and load them or do I need to do something else? |
| Raevyn | I see the updates in the software manager but how can i do a mass upgrade rather than one at a time? |
| kb9vqf | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| Raevyn | thanx :) |
| kb9vqf | np |
| Raevyn | huh I did that and it claims there is nothing to upgrade or install |
| kb9vqf | sorry I don't have time right now to troubleshoot further :-/ |
| kb9vqf | check the mailing lust |
| kb9vqf | *list |
| kb9vqf | there should be some additional information in the mailing list archive |
| Raevyn | alright |
| kb9vqf | I know it works since I run the nightly builds on my laptop :) |
| Raevyn | i wonder if i did something wrong |
| kb9vqf | it should just work |
| kb9vqf | make sure you have the nightly build dependencies and the nightly builds PPA both |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: with this patch i sent, half my apps aren't crashing anymore |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ping |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I found another deprecated gtk struct in the gtk-qt-engine |
| MutantTurkey | GtkBoxChild is deprecated |
| MutantTurkey | qt_theme_draw.c:750:15 |
| MutantTurkey | http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/2.24/GtkBox.html#GtkBoxChild |
| MutantTurkey | since 2.24 |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Where is the patch?> |
| MutantTurkey | don't have one yet |
| MutantTurkey | I just found it. |
| MutantTurkey | I'll send the patch tomorrow after I fix at it |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | look for more while you are at it |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: before you send in the patch |
| kb9vqf | look for any more deprecated calls |
| kb9vqf | that might explain the disappearing firefox tabs, etc. |
| kb9vqf | IMHO if it's borken that much then the old call should be REMOVED from the API entirely, not just left to fester and cause hard-to-trace problems |
| MutantTurkey | no thats all |
| MutantTurkey | I used the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED |
| MutantTurkey | it throws errors at anything deprecated |
| MutantTurkey | as well as -DGDK_DEPRECATED and -D_GDK_PIXBUF_DEPRECATED |
| kb9vqf | ok good :) |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: either way I'll be looking at tha tfirefox problem as well |
| MutantTurkey | I need to figure how to debug it |
| MutantTurkey | there is a way to enable debuggin |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | look for #defines |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | I think thats it |
| MutantTurkey | gtk also has pretty good debugging features |
| MutantTurkey | so that too |
| MutantTurkey | either way firefox is really annoying with those tabs :| |
| kb9vqf | I know there is a problem on Firefox 4 |
| kb9vqf | I am thinking it is actually in Firefox |
| kb9vqf | something they did |
| kb9vqf | they are not using GTK, only emulating it IIRC |
| kb9vqf | or some other nastiness |
| MutantTurkey | don't they use some internal rendering? |
| MutantTurkey | with some themeing engine? |
| MutantTurkey | XUL runner i think |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: what's up with Xu_R and network manager? can I help on that end at all/ |
| kb9vqf | Only if you know DBUS and can fix knetworkmanager to use the new DBUS API that comes with network-manager 0.9 |
| MutantTurkey | I can look at it at the least |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 537 filed by neptunia@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=537 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Update poppler-qt3 to mathch the latest poppler API |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 537 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=537 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Update poppler-qt3 to mathch the latest poppler API |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 537 from NEEDINFO to UNCONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=537 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, UNCONFIRMED, Update poppler-qt3 to mathch the latest poppler API |
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| MutantTurkey | duking it out with gtkbox child |
| MutantTurkey | they seem to have replaced it with a function that returns a linked list... |
| MutantTurkey | then you have go get the first element from the list |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 538 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=538 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gtk-qt-engine contains deprecated components. |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: sent a patch in |
| kb9vqf | where? |
| MutantTurkey | bug tracker |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | BTW I finally found the cause of your kdesktop_lock issue |
| MutantTurkey | I saw the commit |
| MutantTurkey | what was it? |
| kb9vqf | it was a little-used codepath that I missed |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | you could probably trigger the problem by locking the screen and closing your laptop's lid |
| MutantTurkey | never did that though |
| kb9vqf | only on Intel though as far as I can tell |
| kb9vqf | that's only one way |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | bug 538 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=538 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gtk-qt-engine contains deprecated components. |
| kb9vqf | basically if your BIOS sends a display switch keypress (as many do) |
| MutantTurkey | in depth report and patch |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | read it and weep ( or rather shout for joy) |
| MutantTurkey | I removed bonobo, renamed... well just read the report |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | it cleans it up a bit |
| MutantTurkey | I saw another area that is pretty hackish |
| kb9vqf | now on to the knetworkmanager stuff? |
| MutantTurkey | maybe, tmight be another small bug |
| MutantTurkey | or poorly written area |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | but yes, knetworkmangaer |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: I need what you have at this point for knetworkmanager |
| kb9vqf | or by end of day today |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: see that patch? |
| kb9vqf | the one you submitted earlier? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | what about it? |
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| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | sorry wifi here is just ridiculous. |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: just found a segvault in ktorrent, gotta check it out also |
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| MutantTurkey | s |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay now onto knetworkmanager |
| kb9vqf | sounds good |
| kb9vqf | implement the secret agent stuff first :) |
| kb9vqf | try to keep the knetworkmanager internal connection store if the new API will allow it in any way |
| kb9vqf | this is important for a number of reasons, including security and upgradability |
| MutantTurkey | 1) I know absolutely zero about the internals of knetworkmanager 2) it's freaking huge! |
| MutantTurkey | I don't even know where to start |
| kb9vqf | well, a good starting point is the Email Xu_R got back from the network-manager people |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | I'm rereading it now |
| MutantTurkey | one thing, do we provide NM.8 now or something? |
| MutantTurkey | how is it functional if our api is broken |
| kb9vqf | uhhh...0.8 has worked for quite a while now |
| kb9vqf | 0.9 breaks everything that requires a secret |
| kb9vqf | possibly more |
| MutantTurkey | I know |
| kb9vqf | ok...I don't know what you were trying to ask then :-/ |
| MutantTurkey | let me rephrase |
| MutantTurkey | when we are communicating to network manager currently, we are still on the 0.8 API |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | then how is it still working if I have 0.9 installed? |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| kb9vqf | it doesn't |
| kb9vqf | it shouldn't |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| kb9vqf | are you on a password protected network? |
| kb9vqf | and are you SURE you have the 0.9 API installed? |
| MutantTurkey | NO AND NO |
| MutantTurkey | sorry caps |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | I use a wep key network at home, it works |
| kb9vqf | on 0.9? |
| kb9vqf | as in wep works with 0.9/ |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| MutantTurkey | let me see |
| kb9vqf | if so I wonder if the main problem will be whatever the network-manager people considered "secrets" |
| * kb9vqf thought a WEP key would be considered that though | |
| MutantTurkey | actually you're right |
| MutantTurkey | still running 0.8 |
| kb9vqf | ok, thought so |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | so now I need to get the 0.9 api on natty or whatever |
| kb9vqf | you can't |
| kb9vqf | (as far as I know) |
| * kb9vqf gets the feeling he is going to have to do this :-/ | |
| MutantTurkey | sorry :| |
| MutantTurkey | there is a migration info page |
| MutantTurkey | http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager//developers/api/09/ref-migrating.html |
| kb9vqf | yes, I linked to it on the bug report |
| kb9vqf | I can't start until oneiric is building properl |
| kb9vqf | *properly |
| kb9vqf | so it will probably be a few weeks before I can even look at it |
| MutantTurkey | ok good |
| MutantTurkey | okay at least |
| MutantTurkey | how is oneiric looking? still storting through build failures? |
| kb9vqf | oh yes |
| kb9vqf | as I said weeks |
| MutantTurkey | right |
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| Xu_R|School | kb9vqf: dbus-1-tqt is a backport from its KDE4 counterpart, right? |
| Xu_R|School | so most functions should be the same, give or take a T? |
| kb9vqf | hmm, not sure |
| kb9vqf | it is a direct port from dbus-1-qt for Qt3 |
| kb9vqf | but as far as KDE4 is concerned usually stuff was changed quite significantly |
| kb9vqf | you can check for any similarity by poking through the header files of dbus-1-tqt |
| Xu_R|School | kb9vqf: ok, thanks |
| kb9vqf | np |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 198 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=198 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Powermanager |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 205 from non-core programs to ubuntu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=205 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Some applications need of packaging |
| * Strangelv cheers | |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: ? |
| Strangelv | "Bug 198, not the new bug |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=198 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Powermanager |
| MutantTurkey | i know |
| MutantTurkey | just kickin out old bugs that aren't valid / need to be closed |
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| KingSphinx | Whoo, remembered how to get Pidgin to work with IRC. :D Just wish I didn't have to set up a new "account" in Pidgin every time I wanted to add a channel. |
| KingSphinx | That said though, XChat's still a superior client. |
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| MutantTurkey | yeah I used to like pidgin |
| MutantTurkey | it's rather bloaty bloaty though |
| MutantTurkey | the backend library is good though |
| Strangelv | ++- |
| Strangelv | + |
| Strangelv | ----------+- |
| Strangelv | + |
| Strangelv | Sorra bout that |
| Strangelv | "Sorry, too |
| Strangelv | :: tries to put his keyboard in a better location |
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| devilman1 | hello |
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| devilman1 | sorry for my english i speak spanish |
| devilman1 | i use trinity-desktop in my laptop Panasonic Toughbook CF73 with Debian Squeeze |
| devilman1 | i compile and i install xmms in this laptop |
| devilman1 | but xmms don't open |
| devilman1 | in icewm, xmms work fine |
| devilman1 | I think I found a bug |
| MutantTurkey | devilman1: ok |
| MutantTurkey | report the bug at http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org |
| MutantTurkey | also attempt to launch a bug inside a terminal |
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| MutantTurkey | ok? |
| devilman1 | ok |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 539 filed by compudebian@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=539 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, XMMS don't work in Trinity |
| devilman1 | i put that bug |
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| * Xu_R 's development VM just died. literally died. | |
| * Xu_R 's having a terrible day... DX | |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: Any chance MutantTurkey can take a stab at it? |
| kb9vqf | none |
| kb9vqf | it's you or mew |
| Xu_R | because this is literally turning out to be a complete mess right. |
| kb9vqf | *me |
| Xu_R | I understand what's going on |
| Xu_R | except my development VM just died |
| kb9vqf | drat |
| kb9vqf | because I *don't* understand and won't be able to learn for a few weeks due to other duties |
| Xu_R | and then now my computer's screwing up in strange ways... what a terrible day DX |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| Xu_R | XD sounds like my life ._." |
| Xu_R | I'd really hate if the release was delayed over this :( |
| kb9vqf | it will be |
| kb9vqf | it has to be :( |
| Xu_R | :'( |
| kb9vqf | see what you can do to fix your compuet |
| kb9vqf | *computer |
| Xu_R | trying that right now... but gah, I can't believe this happened |
| Xu_R | once something bad happens |
| Xu_R | it all goes on a downward spiral for a while -__-** |
| kb9vqf | yepo |
| kb9vqf | *yes |
| Xu_R | hm. this secret agent adaptor... the header comment: |
| kb9vqf | been there, done that |
| Xu_R | "This file was generated by qdbusxml2cpp version 0.7" |
| kb9vqf | yes, there are network manager XML interface files |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| kb9vqf | I forgot about that |
| Xu_R | because they use that to create cpp + h file to call methods |
| Xu_R | then they make the secretagent file to call... that file and then etc XD |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | problem is I don't know how to make that work without creating a new knetworkmanager-0.9 |
| Xu_R | ... |
| kb9vqf | maybe copy in the XML files from the target system on the fly? |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| Xu_R | not sure that will work >>; |
| kb9vqf | if need be we can split knetworkmanager into two versions |
| kb9vqf | just becomes a pain to keep them in sync |
| Xu_R | could we just have the file sit there, but not be called unless version 0.9? |
| Xu_R | because AFAIK only the secret agent file calls it... |
| kb9vqf | maybe |
| kb9vqf | I don't know |
| kb9vqf | we'll try it |
| Xu_R | (but then we'd have to have a bunch of version checking in the file for the #include and then the function calling) |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | get something to me that works, and I'll see if it should just be split or what |
| Xu_R | will try |
| * Xu_R wishes he had a punching bag just about now | |
| kb9vqf | just don't use your computer as one... ;-) |
| Xu_R | XD |
| Xu_R | hehehehe I think I'll punch the nearest tree xD |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I don't see my firefox tabs acting up |
| MutantTurkey | anymore |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: definitely not seeing any firefox tabs issues anymore ( and I can't specifically remember how to reproduce it anyhow |
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| KingSphinx | So the supposed "messiah" of Apple dies, and the world goes nuts. The inventor of C and a part of UNIX died (Dennis Ritchie), and nobody cares. ...what is up with the world? |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Cool! |
| kb9vqf | thanks for tracing that all down |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | I have another problem still and that is with text boxes on firefox |
| MutantTurkey | haven't even begun to think about that |
| kb9vqf | well, keep working on it |
| kb9vqf | you're doing a good job there |
| MutantTurkey | gtk is my specialty |
| MutantTurkey | actually the reason I learned GTK is because it's written in C |
| MutantTurkey | thats why i am only getting to Qt now |
| KingSphinx | Is Qt based on C? |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | Qt is based on C++ |
| KingSphinx | ...okay, a C variant. (I was close... >_>; ) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: just fell in love with the crystal window theme |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: they are very different :) |
| KingSphinx | Isn't Crystal default anyway? |
| kb9vqf | yes, Crystal is quite nice |
| MutantTurkey | very configurable |
| MutantTurkey | I like that. |
| kb9vqf | on Kubuntu it is the default |
| MutantTurkey | I think the defaults look terrible tbh |
| kb9vqf | I know someone who uses it with the lipstik widget theme |
| MutantTurkey | but I played around with it and it's great |
| kb9vqf | yes, the defaults DO look terrible :-P |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| kb9vqf | they are the Kubuntu defaults as of Kubuntu 8.10 |
| MutantTurkey | the gradient doesn't work very well |
| MutantTurkey | well doesnt look nice imho |
| MutantTurkey | I find plastic to be very nice. |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know if this is a Qt3 feature, but i've only seen it here and on new macs, is the overlay scrollbar. do you know anything about it? |
| KingSphinx | Very XP-ish though. :P |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: I love xp:) |
| MutantTurkey | that was my primary choice for a very very long time. |
| MutantTurkey | Interestingly enough, I also had a windows ME (the edition that altogether disapeared and failed) that was rock solid for years and years |
| MutantTurkey | eventually the battery kicked out |
| KingSphinx | Vista may have been quite a shock to the system, but I admit, Aero is very nice. I'm not a huge fan of XP's "Fisher-Price" default look, but the version of Luna in Media Center Edition ("Energy Blue") is nice. |
| MutantTurkey | vista is more of a fail then ME |
| MutantTurkey | frankly vista was just a whole heap of crap |
| MutantTurkey | and while windows 7 works, (and well at that) it is very bloated |
| MutantTurkey | 1.6 gigs just to boot my desktop? cmon |
| KingSphinx | That's the fault of having people who insist that Windows work with legacy crap from 1995. :P |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: not entirely |
| MutantTurkey | it also happens to be because at microsoft dev centers they get new computers every year, with the highest componets to do dev work on |
| KingSphinx | But wow, 1.6 GB just to idle? I'm gonna need more RAM if I want to use 7 comfortably... |
| MutantTurkey | so basically they can bloat it up, don't notice. then consumers get f'd |
| MutantTurkey | that is part of it, the legacy crap |
| KingSphinx | (2.5GB RAM here on my computer) |
| MutantTurkey | 4 gigs on this baby, 2 on my other, never used more than 1 on either.. |
| MutantTurkey | I just use tmpfs's and caches alot so its handy |
| MutantTurkey | firefox cache -> tmpfs was the greatest thing ever |
| KingSphinx | For some reason, Trinity 3.5.12 always reported using a LOT of cache memory. Should I have worried about that? |
| KingSphinx | Like, 2 GB of RAM would be reported in cache |
| MutantTurkey | cache is okay |
| MutantTurkey | it's actually free |
| KingSphinx | Ah |
| MutantTurkey | well it contains stuff, but if the system needs it, they just throw out the old stuff |
| kb9vqf | basically Trinity is using the spare memory to speed things up instead of letting it sit idle (and therefore wasted) |
| kb9vqf | it doesn't NEED that memory to function |
| MutantTurkey | that is linux (not trinity) |
| kb9vqf | i.e. it won't be paged out |
| KingSphinx | So... a bit like Windows, but in a non-bloaty way? |
| MutantTurkey | windows = bloat |
| MutantTurkey | linux = non bloaty |
| kb9vqf | Windows pages all that memory out to swap |
| kb9vqf | it needs it unfortunately |
| kb9vqf | Linux won't |
| kb9vqf | Windows doesn't report its cache usage IIRC |
| MutantTurkey | I hate swap :| (knows he always gets crap for sayng it, but I do) |
| kb9vqf | (well, not as "used RAM" anyway) |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: honestly my desktop is always on and it's ram is "full" with cache, which is awesome because unused ram = waste of space |
| KingSphinx | Well, at least there's one thing to look forward to tomorrow: Ubuntu 11.10 comes out :D |
| KingSphinx | Though sometimes I kinda wish there were a rolling-release version of Ubuntu |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | according to the release schedule I thought it was the 24th |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: I hate the upgrades, something always seems to go wrong |
| kb9vqf | another missed release :(( |
| KingSphinx | ? |
| KingSphinx | there's not going to be Oneiric binaries? |
| MutantTurkey | its the 24th |
| MutantTurkey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: you must be mistaken |
| KingSphinx | No, it says "October 13th"... |
| KingSphinx | that's Week 24 |
| MutantTurkey | holy guacamole you're right |
| KingSphinx | Is that bad or good that it releases tomorrow? |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: we are still working through the process of building on oneiric because we thought we had a week or so |
| KingSphinx | Lol, that's okay, I honestly was expecting a delay of about that much. |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 129 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=129 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Installation fails on VirtualBox |
| Qu4Z | I know I'm way past the discussion, but: Plastik is OK, just a bit big and rounded, somehow |
| Qu4Z | And windows does report cache separately from actual memory these days (Win7, at least. I think you can get the info in XP, but not so easily) |
| MutantTurkey | Qu4Z: :P |
| MutantTurkey | Plastik is OK, good enough for me. I'm not to picky :P |
| Qu4Z | Yeah :) I can't remember what I usually use. Which is to say, I can't remember what it's called, and I'm on Windows at work |
| MutantTurkey | Windows, I only use it to play age of empires :P |
| Qu4Z | I really should get TDE running on my computer at home again. |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, I play Age of Visual Studio. It's not nearly as good. :/ |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | Visual studio... |
| Qu4Z | Yeah, lol |
| MutantTurkey | lol is rigt |
| Xu_R | woah. oneric is out today (it's 12:05 AM lolol) |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: it's 11:57 |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: still trying to recover, having a bit of luck for once (XD) |
| Xu_R | oh... my clocks say 1205 >>; |
| MutantTurkey | 12:05 it is... dang |
| Xu_R | XD |
| MutantTurkey | well I did just glance at my old kitchen clock |
| Xu_R | :P |
| MutantTurkey | that things been running on the same AA's since i moved here.. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: yeah, we didn't know it was released tomorrow until a bit ago |
| Xu_R | yea, I didn't know either >>; |
| Xu_R | I even installed an oneric daily build LOL |
| Xu_R | (sadly, i think they missed a bug in the installer ._.) |
| MutantTurkey | they always do. |
| Xu_R | xD |
| MutantTurkey | i hate upgrades |
| Xu_R | well, my dev vm decided to die, so I'm trying to recover it to this vm right now... |
| Xu_R | and then I'm trying to figure out how to make all this NM0.9 stuff not break 0.8 stuff >>; |
| Xu_R | hmm... |
| * Xu_R is way too squeezed on time right now | |
| * Xu_R is actually impressed with the new Unity desktop - much better than predecessor. But still needs more customization options | |
| MutantTurkey | blech |
| MutantTurkey | it's disgusting |
| MutantTurkey | frankly ubuntu is disgusting |
| MutantTurkey | they are using the FOSS community for their own purpose |
| MutantTurkey | they fail to mention that it's even GNU/Linux... |
| MutantTurkey | like wth |
| Xu_R | true... ._. |
| MutantTurkey | they pretend they did it all, from libreoffice, to gimp, everything |
| MutantTurkey | "the Ubuntu Operating System" |
| MutantTurkey | i call BS |
| MutantTurkey | </rant> |
| Xu_R | XD |
| Xu_R | anyway, late |
| Xu_R | night |
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| MutantTurkey | meh. I gotta sleep too. more debugging tomorrow. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 540 filed by glogow@fbihome.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=540 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, aKregator - missing private library in Lucid package from daily build. |
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| Mias | yummy http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Serenity?action=content&content=35954&PHPSESSID=353176c95a75ba35a52bb8d74939b46d |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 540 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=540 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, aKregator - missing private library in Lucid package from daily build. |
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| Edogaa | so, how is trinity on ubuntu 11.10 or 11.04? how does it work with pulse audio |
| Edogaa | i just tried ubuntu right now tbh never installed it before but i used kde4 tons |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | kopete won't connect to gtalk anymore.... anyone else got this? |
| kb9vqf | on 3.5.12 or on the nightly builds? If gtalk uses XMPP then there is a fix in SVN already |
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| DexterF | kb9vqf: 3.5.12 |
| DexterF | gtalk is xmpp, yes |
| DexterF | aka jabber |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | there has been a fix in SVN for some time |
| kb9vqf | we are still working towards an early November release of 3.5.13 |
| kb9vqf | trying to smash as many bugs as we can first :) |
| Edogaa | >.> |
| kb9vqf | Edogaa: Trinity builds and runs perfecly on Natty; Oneiric is still in progress and there is an issue with the network-manager |
| kb9vqf | hopefully that problem will be resolved before the release |
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| Edogaa | still in progress? |
| Edogaa | it was released today |
| Edogaa | but yeah, I see. |
| kb9vqf | well, we don't have the resources of Canonical ;-) |
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| kb9vqf | and we prefer to release as bug-free as possible, whereas Canonical always releases with bugs |
| Edogaa | xD Uh. |
| Edogaa | wait.. i mean, Ah. |
| kb9vqf | This development cycle was also longer than normal, to allow us to fully absorb Qt3 and related bindings |
| kb9vqf | (which was NOT a trivial task) |
| Edogaa | i see, i see. |
| kb9vqf | so we're actually on target for a release late in 2011 :) |
| kb9vqf | much changed in Linux as well since 3.5.12 was released :-P |
| kb9vqf | some good, some bad |
| Edogaa | what bad? D: |
| kb9vqf | well for starters, network-manager decided their API needed a completel overhaul |
| kb9vqf | they think it's a good idea to store passwords for connections in a central system-wide database :-P |
| kb9vqf | Ubuntu decided to prevent autolinking of libraries (thus actually bloating large applications and making maintinance a nightmare) |
| kb9vqf | etc, etc. |
| kb9vqf | on the plus side though the kernel itself is as stable as I have ever seen it, and FAST too! |
| kb9vqf | noveau is actually approaching usability, etc. |
| kb9vqf | so more good than bad over the past year in the core system IMHO |
| DexterF | kb9vqf: .13 still a kde3 release then or trinity rather? in terms of: own doce under the hood |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| Edogaa | how's pulse with kde3 btw? |
| kb9vqf | works great |
| kb9vqf | DexterF: We 'own' all Trinity versions from 3.5.11 onwards |
| kb9vqf | KDE e.V. has not released KDE3 since 3.5.10 |
| kb9vqf | Trinity will not be radically altering the general form of KDE3--we aim to improve it, not replace it ;-) |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Status report please :) |
| DexterF | kb9vqf: there was the idea once to rewrite from scratch wasnt it? |
| kb9vqf | never from me... |
| kb9vqf | that was the KDE4 decision |
| kb9vqf | and we all know what they ended up with :-P |
| Edogaa | Eh...kde4 isn't so bad :/ it's just not kde3 lol |
| kb9vqf | It's good for some workloads and bad for others |
| DexterF | even torvalds prefers xfce over gnome3/kde4 |
| kb9vqf | just like Trinity, Gnome, and all other desktops |
| DexterF | kb9vqf: does torvalds know about trinity btw? |
| kb9vqf | no idea |
| * kb9vqf wonders now | |
| DexterF | the way he rants how new DEs instill idiocy in users he one should point it out to him.. who knows, maybe there's a uber banner carrier in for trinity :) |
| kb9vqf | hehe, possibly! |
| kb9vqf | I'd wait for our next release before mentioning it though |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.13 that is |
| kb9vqf | it's almost here and carries a lot of internal improvements and bugfixes |
| Edogaa | hmm |
| DexterF | good to hear. glad the project lives. |
| DexterF | still, what can I do about gtalk right niw? I really need to talk to some people :P |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| Edogaa | I wonder , will there be some interface improvements? |
| kb9vqf | you could theoretically cherry pick the fix from our patch list |
| kb9vqf | Edogaa: Like what? |
| kb9vqf | there is a brand new XRandR tool :) |
| kb9vqf | and some other things |
| kb9vqf | but we are not going to be going down the KDE4 route |
| kb9vqf | the basic interface itself is pretty much static |
| Edogaa | i don't know, i mean in some areas, like with whatever you guys use system settings. I don't recall feeling to comfortabel with it when i was trying it on debian stable through a vm |
| Edogaa | but keeping everything about the same :/ |
| kb9vqf | we use kcontrol mostly |
| Edogaa | right, that. |
| kb9vqf | hey, we like it :) |
| Edogaa | ah |
| kb9vqf | I always feel lost on the KDE4 equivalent |
| Edogaa | Eh, I guess it's becsause I've been using the KDE4 and XFCE equivalent to modifying settings |
| kb9vqf | although if you can put on paper some of the issues you feel exist we are open to discussing them |
| kb9vqf | we won |
| Edogaa | xD |
| kb9vqf | we won't shoot down new ideas like KDE4 does ;-) |
| kb9vqf | The only semi-permanent rule is that burying settings in layers and layers of subwindows is a Bad Idea |
| kb9vqf | the user should always know exactly where he or she is |
| kb9vqf | and I know there is code in Trinity that violates that principle, and it should be fixed sometime :-P |
| Edogaa | okay, here's my super new idea...we rewrite all of trinity into trinity 2, and unify everything into some complex and limiting architecture |
| Edogaa | PERFECT IDEA ;D |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| kb9vqf | I should have said *automatically* shoot down new ideas ;-) |
| Edogaa | XD |
| kb9vqf | the trinity-devel mailing list is a good place to bring up potential user interface improvements |
| Edogaa | btw, do you guys mess around with the qt3 toolkit? I Mean actually improving the code wise :/ I don't know how all that works and whether qt3 is being maintained at all or rather...well iobviously it can compile otherwise this project wouldn't exist but i think you know what i mean :/ |
| Edogaa | also, how do qt4 and qt3 apps work together |
| Edogaa | no conflicts? |
| MutantTurkey | DexterF: tovalds is a great man, but frankly I don't think he knows to much about GUI's... |
| MutantTurkey | when it comes to that is preference |
| MutantTurkey | (sorry way late on the response) |
| DexterF | MutantTurkey: hey, as long as he thinks like me I#m all for him carrying my flag :) |
| MutantTurkey | Edogaa: also the xfce settings manager is stinky |
| DexterF | MutantTurkey: how so? |
| MutantTurkey | I belive that they use a single application for it, and so it is not dynamic |
| MutantTurkey | in trinity and kde4 we load a module for each settings |
| MutantTurkey | so that way a 3rd party could use our kcontrol and easily add it |
| Edogaa | ah |
| MutantTurkey | trinity, configurable and dynamic! :D |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I am becoming a master debugger |
| MutantTurkey | I seriously love ibm, they have some really good documentation and guides online |
| MutantTurkey | and they make superior thinkpad laptops :) |
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| DexterF | kb9vqf: so - I guess I could just compile kopete? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 541 filed by plaws@ou.edu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=541 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, print wizard missing drivers, postscript |
| DexterF | kb9vqf: funny tho: my other xmpp acc (gmx.de) is online |
| kb9vqf | it depends on the server version |
| kb9vqf | there is a new XMPP command |
| kb9vqf | (protocol command) |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: think I found a minor bug |
| MutantTurkey | probably related to some auto conversion to Tqt |
| MutantTurkey | because there is a string in ktorrent labled "tqStatus:" |
| MutantTurkey | I assume it got caught by one of your macros |
| kb9vqf | busy with oneiric and related problems -- file a bug report |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | will do, and i'll attach a patch |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Status report? |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: downloaded fresh copy of knetworkmanager + the kde4 backend of networkmanager and starting to work |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | good luck |
| Xu_R | ty |
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| kb9vqf | Seems Ilya helped us indirectly: https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=gcc46-fix.patch&package=kde3-amarok&project=KDE%3AKDE3&srcmd5=a31cb15c7d7ebdbb4ad3a081297f0c0a |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | though I really wish he'd submit patches upstream to us directly :( |
| Z_God | I understand he's not considering trinity to be upstream for him |
| Z_God | I'm not really sure why |
| kb9vqf | he want to use his stanant and obsolete version because he considers the number of packages available as the primary metric of success |
| kb9vqf | so it is leading to duplication of effort between his variant of KDE3.5.10 and the Trinity project on matters of compilation/linking |
| Xu_R | he's also managed to piss off a few factory devs, so that's not good. |
| kb9vqf | my opinion is that Trinity is a desktop--if it has a great version of some app then by all means include and maintain it (e.g. Amarok) but otherwise let better apps (OpenShot, etc.) take over |
| kb9vqf | and keep Trinity compilable with the latest UNMODIFIED upstream sources :) |
| kb9vqf | yes it causes headaches here, but some of the upstream decisions are really for the best |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | my only concern is that "KDE3" will get a bad name from his stagnant buggy repository |
| kb9vqf | it adds more pressure to get rid of all mention of KDE3 with this project |
| kb9vqf | which isn't a bad thing I suppose |
| Z_God | you mean there are more apps in suse's kde3? |
| kb9vqf | AFAIK yes, but most of them are not useful or have far better GTK equivalents |
| Z_God | I wonder what kind of packages |
| kb9vqf | not sure--last I checked they tend to be small apps such as irc clients |
| kb9vqf | (how many of those do we REALLY need anyway? ;-)) |
| Z_God | but can't those just as easily be compiled against trinity's kdelibs? |
| kb9vqf | not sure, and as Trinity diverges from KDE3.5.10 the chances go down |
| kb9vqf | of course they could be modified, but it is like being pecked to death by old ducks |
| kb9vqf | It would be interesting once we move to GIT to add a community software area |
| Z_God | but are there really big source incompatibilities? |
| kb9vqf | I wouldn't expect so |
| Z_God | me neither, I'd be surprised really then |
| kb9vqf | I just can't take on more packages into the core distribution |
| kb9vqf | the core must be fully compilable for a release |
| Z_God | sure, but suse could easily use trinity as it's base for kde3 |
| Z_God | and compile the extra apps they have against it |
| kb9vqf | Ilya claims "no" because of "missing extra apps" |
| kb9vqf | I know :-P |
| kb9vqf | I really don't know why he does not |
| Z_God | I see |
| kb9vqf | your solution actually makes sense |
| Z_God | but then the question would be really "why he does he expect those apps to be part of trinity core?" |
| kb9vqf | yeah |
| Xu_R | one thing I don't like is that when they said they would include KDE3 back in, he just used 2008 specs (WITH UNSERMAKE?!) and tried to submit them back ._." |
| kb9vqf | and I'm using "core" losely |
| kb9vqf | *loosely |
| Z_God | yep, I understand |
| Z_God | there is even more in there than there was in the official KDE 3 |
| Z_God | I think |
| kb9vqf | "core" to me here is meaning any app with no direct 1:1 feature set replacement in GTK/KDE4 |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | and a lot of then are junk honestly |
| kb9vqf | personally I'd like to encourage a rolling-release (no version numbers) community applicatoin repostory where that kind of stuff can get dumped with no distro packaging required |
| kb9vqf | if they breakm they break |
| kb9vqf | if they break, they break |
| * kb9vqf can't type | |
| kb9vqf | and no binary builds from the official Trinity project |
| kb9vqf | for that repository |
| Z_God | what kind of apps do you imagine in there? |
| kb9vqf | 500 different IRC clients :) |
| kb9vqf | seriously though, old stuff that has already been replaced |
| kb9vqf | with better GTK variants |
| kb9vqf | it's there to satisfy people like Ilya |
| Z_God | I can imagine it's not always trivial to know/find replacements though |
| Xu_R | feel free to look: https://build.opensuse.org/project/packages?project=KDE%3AKDE3 |
| Z_God | I'm a heavy user of kwordquiz for example |
| Z_God | and I'm glad it's part of trinity, but I can imagine not that many people use it intensively |
| kb9vqf | and I suppose if someone really liked an app in there then they could take it over, polish it up, bring it up to modern standards, and get it included in the main distribution |
| kb9vqf | that's my thought anyway |
| kb9vqf | this really is not all that different than Ubuntu's model of main and multiverse software |
| kb9vqf | main is expected to compile, receive updates, etc. |
| kb9vqf | multiverse stuff can go away at any time |
| Z_God | ah yep |
| kb9vqf | now imagine if all the devs had to keep multiverse up to the standards of main |
| kb9vqf | Ubuntu would still be in text mode :) |
| kb9vqf | that's where the Trinity project is at, and why we didn't take on all those extra apps |
| kb9vqf | after 3.5.13 is released some serious thought should go into the aging Trinity application ecosystem |
| kb9vqf | (i.e. the apps available for 3.5.10 and not Trinity) |
| kb9vqf | *not in Trinity yet |
| Z_God | I'm not aware of loads |
| Z_God | I guess there are bugs with more info on that? |
| kb9vqf | no not really |
| Z_God | and the main issue is just packaging it? |
| kb9vqf | I mean there are a few bug reports |
| kb9vqf | yes,and bringing it up to compilability with modern libraries |
| kb9vqf | without hacks |
| Z_God | but is that really needed? |
| kb9vqf | if it is in the main distribution, yes |
| Z_God | I imagine that some core things needed updating |
| Z_God | but I wouldn't expect many apps to need changes |
| kb9vqf | it really depends |
| kb9vqf | there are a lot of hackish fringe apps |
| kb9vqf | that pull in weird libraries, etc. |
| kb9vqf | I would expect most apps to need updates for gcc4.4, 4.5, and 4.6 |
| Z_God | hmm ok |
| kb9vqf | and then the linker changes that have also happend |
| kb9vqf | (neither of those are the result of changes the Trinity project made BTW) |
| Z_God | yep, I understand |
| kb9vqf | ok :) |
| Z_God | I didn't realize that gcc changed so much |
| kb9vqf | it became more strict |
| Z_God | but I indeed had to add headers and so on sometimes as well |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| Z_God | btw, what do you use for development now? |
| kb9vqf | gcc4.6 is what I am fighting with ATM |
| kb9vqf | I am seriously contemplating adding the community software branch to GIT though; then Ilya can stuff as much in there as he wants |
| Z_God | I unfortuntately have a very limited connection at home (I can only download 10GB per month) |
| Z_God | but now I'm at my parents for the weekend |
| kb9vqf | and we don't have to maintain or package any of it :) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| Z_God | so I can set up a proper VM |
| Z_God | it seems my maverick vm broke |
| kb9vqf | oh fun |
| Z_God | should I install oneric & use the current nightlies? |
| Z_God | I think it would be perfect indeed if there would be a git branch for ilya to play with |
| kb9vqf | use natty unless you are satisifed with only the kde* modules and Amarok installing ATM |
| Z_God | I just like a snapshot so I can continue playing with kmozilla |
| kb9vqf | lots of build problems to work through yet |
| kb9vqf | use Natty |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | Oneric won't be ready for a few weeks |
| kb9vqf | Ubuntu changed the linker and it's a bit of a mess |
| kb9vqf | lots of manual changes needed |
| Z_God | you think the changes have some advantages? |
| Z_God | aren't other DEs also affected? |
| kb9vqf | yes they were affected but Ubuntu patched them itself |
| kb9vqf | AFAIK |
| kb9vqf | and no, these particular changes have no advantage other than working around a limitation in binutils-gold |
| kb9vqf | there is some heated discussion about it online |
| Z_God | it seems crazy when they have to patch so many things themselves |
| kb9vqf | (no, I'm not involved in the discussions :) |
| Z_God | I wonder if it would be easier to focus on LTS versions |
| Z_God | but there is always a risk that would be just piling up work |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | and this development cycle was crazy anyway for us |
| kb9vqf | we absorbed Qt3 almost entirely |
| kb9vqf | so we got somewhat behind as a result |
| Z_God | qt3 needed so many fixes? |
| kb9vqf | just a lot of work bringing it in along with all of its dependencies |
| kb9vqf | renaming things |
| kb9vqf | pulling the Qt3 modules out of upstream projects |
| kb9vqf | etc. |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | there hasn't been any response yet to that qt5 feature request I made btw |
| kb9vqf | you won't get one |
| Z_God | if qt5 would be at least performing properly, I think it would be neat if TQt would enable a relatively quick Qt5 port |
| kb9vqf | only if they provide all of the methods needed for a desktop |
| Z_God | then it will stay open in their tracker forever |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | they are pretty much committed to the mobile phone path |
| Z_God | maybe it would be interesting to contact Opera some time |
| Z_God | and maybe other companies heavily depending on desktop Qt |
| kb9vqf | browsers don't really use "real" desktop methods |
| Z_God | but they have the same performance issue at least |
| kb9vqf | The best way to put this is that Qt4 is application oriented, and Qt3 could actually be used to create a desktop environment |
| kb9vqf | different goals, different APIs |
| kb9vqf | I say choose your battles wisely |
| kb9vqf | Trinity still outperforms anything else out there by a wide margin, would Qt4/Qt5/Qt6 really gain you anything? |
| kb9vqf | (execpt XFCE or other ultra-lightweight desktops) |
| Z_God | it would drop the need to maintain qt at some point |
| Z_God | and it would enable better integration |
| Z_God | which toolkit would you recommend a new desktop application developer to learn now? |
| kb9vqf | GTK or Qt4 |
| kb9vqf | depending on the complexity of the app |
| kb9vqf | for more complex apps GTK |
| kb9vqf | and we have pretty darn good GTK integration already :) |
| kb9vqf | BTW if we're not maintaining Qt then we'd be maintaining the Qt interface and having to jump at each Qt API change |
| kb9vqf | that is far more work, trust me |
| Z_God | you think there will also be Qt4 integration like the GTK integration? |
| Z_God | these integration things also appear as hacks to me sometimes |
| Z_God | but if it will be trivial to have such integration modules for common toolkits, I indeed don't see a problem |
| kb9vqf | once we are off the Qt namespace as mentioned earlier, then yes we will have Qt4 integration |
| Z_God | ok, but still I wonder how easy/hard it will be to implement |
| kb9vqf | much easier than trying to deal with upstream Qt |
| Z_God | I think getting GTK to works stably took some effort as well |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | I put in some of that effort so I can make a valid comparison |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | Qt4 is much more work |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | I think the GTK stuff will be cool to see in kmozilla :) |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| Z_God | I'm kinda curious how the end result would be |
| kb9vqf | I think most people want Qt4 because it has a higher version number |
| kb9vqf | they don't understand the fundamental differences |
| Z_God | you mean for trinity? |
| * kb9vqf really wishes that projects would just RENAME THINGS when they come out with a completely different version of something that only generally resembles the original | |
| kb9vqf | no, in general |
| Z_God | because as an app developer, I'd want qt4 because I can get support for it |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I'll go with that |
| kb9vqf | so you probably have no problem using SystemC and developing stuff for iPhones, right |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | or some other limited development environment |
| * kb9vqf is playing devils advocate a bit | |
| Z_God | personally, I do not see a big future for closed source software |
| kb9vqf | I realize there are no real good alternatives, but I would go with GTK given the choice of Qt4 or GTK for a large app |
| kb9vqf | I would vastly prefer Qt3 |
| Z_God | but if I would be working for a software company and they'd ask me what toolkit to use, I would advice them Qt4 because there is commercial support available when things do not work as they should |
| Z_God | but it would be for both free and unfree software |
| kb9vqf | and I wouldn't buy their products because a.) they will be slower than native Linux apps and b.) Qt4 tends to break ransoml |
| kb9vqf | *randomly |
| Z_God | I don't know much about the options for GTK |
| kb9vqf | unless there was literally no other choice (Wine apps included!) |
| Z_God | but what about things like Google Earth? |
| kb9vqf | don't use it personally, so can't comment |
| kb9vqf | I know Qt3 is a dead end |
| Z_God | yep, same here, but in most cases people would develop something that doesn't exist yet I'd say ;) |
| kb9vqf | for new apps |
| kb9vqf | but Qt4 is not a viable alternative in my opinion |
| kb9vqf | there is no really good toolkit out there right now |
| kb9vqf | until this tablet craze dies down I don't expect one to emerge either |
| kb9vqf | Microsoft had an amazing opportunity here to steal back desktop users, but instead they are blinded by the same craze :-P |
| Z_God | well, Qt3 is good technically I guess, but when it comes to maintenance and support, there is not as much available anymore as for qt4 |
| kb9vqf | I agree |
| kb9vqf | but if it is just absorbed as a backend library for Trinity who cares really about support? |
| kb9vqf | new apps should be developed for GTK or similar |
| kb9vqf | until a better toolkit comes along |
| Z_God | what I suspect is that future hardware may have better performance with a toolkit like qt5 |
| kb9vqf | on Xorg? Unlikely |
| Z_God | because of how it will be optimized for GPUs |
| kb9vqf | that optimization is in Xorg, not Qt |
| kb9vqf | or put another way: Qt4 is simply hacking around Xorg (remember the nasty bypass hack?) |
| Z_God | ok, I don't know much about that |
| Z_God | yes |
| kb9vqf | that is not good, it won't work on a network well at all, it causes problems with windows, etc. |
| kb9vqf | just a complete mess |
| kb9vqf | but it works great for phones where you only have a few windows open |
| kb9vqf | or if you don't use any Xorg stuff |
| Z_God | I have the impression that the traditional ways of X11 will be replaced with smth with OpenGL |
| kb9vqf | I don't know, I'm just a bit frustrated with where everything is going lately |
| kb9vqf | oh yuck |
| Z_God | but somehow keeping X11's networking |
| kb9vqf | I don't know how you could even do that :-P |
| Z_God | but I also have many performance issues with remote X11 and non-Qt3 stuff |
| kb9vqf | OpenGL is a monstrosity |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | see? :) |
| Z_God | so yep, I don't see it working yet |
| Z_God | I know people are working on this stuff though |
| Z_God | networking OpenGL and so on |
| Z_God | but with the high GPU interaction... |
| Z_God | it doesn't seem to fit in the X11 model anymore |
| Z_God | I still believe that X11's network tranparancy is a very important thing though |
| Z_God | I wouldn't want to scarifice that just like that |
| kb9vqf | me either, but that is what will be done |
| kb9vqf | just so you can have smooth bouncing icons obscuring your workspace :-P |
| kb9vqf | this generation really is full of idiots |
| kb9vqf | I didn't want to believe it at first, but it seems that if it isn't exciting enough like their morning cartoons then it is "outdated" and "old" and "boring" |
| Z_God | I don't know much about it, I didn't spend much time with it |
| kb9vqf | /rant |
| kb9vqf | I find all that junk very distracting |
| Z_God | some of the effects seem funny, I don't really feel like spending much time on setting such stuff up though if it's not there already or if it's not stable |
| kb9vqf | well, just remember that while that effect is playing you are sitting in front of a computer growing fatter, wrecking your eyes, and being completely unproductive :-P |
| kb9vqf | personally it is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of |
| kb9vqf | if you want effects, go to a movie! |
| Z_God | I waste time on my comp anyhow watching enough stupid stuff ;) |
| kb9vqf | I know, as do most people |
| kb9vqf | but this way they waste time while claiming to be "working" |
| kb9vqf | and actually thinking they *are* working |
| Z_God | well yeah when the effects are so and people are assuming it's just necessary to be like that |
| Z_God | slow* |
| Z_God | because they don't know better |
| kb9vqf | and they will never know better |
| kb9vqf | *sigh* |
| Z_God | when we had our programming class at uni, I remember one group wanted a cool loading screen for their program |
| Z_God | but what we had to write was really trivial, so it just popped up instantly |
| Z_God | but they had a loading screen ;) |
| kb9vqf | I hate that |
| Z_God | which was just doing random stuff and displaying a loading effect |
| kb9vqf | I don't use programs over things like that |
| Z_God | it was hilarious then |
| kb9vqf | well, yes, as it should be :) |
| Z_God | but it seems to become serious indeed |
| Z_God | I know some systems use effects in a smart way |
| kb9vqf | even Trinity does |
| kb9vqf | everything I hover over becomes highlighted |
| kb9vqf | it is a feedback mechanism |
| Z_God | but also with loading I mean |
| kb9vqf | yes, that too |
| Z_God | in Ukraine they use a chipcard system for the metro |
| kb9vqf | openoffice and friends |
| Z_God | at least in Kharkov |
| Z_God | when you put your card in the device, it takes a moment to read the card |
| Z_God | but this is done with a sliding animation |
| kb9vqf | yes, and there it makes sense |
| Z_God | so it seems to slide the info on the screen immediately when you put the card in |
| kb9vqf | same thing with Trinity's smartcard authentication |
| Z_God | but it's actually reading it then, sometime the slide is a bit slower |
| kb9vqf | but that is just keeping the user in the driver's seat so to speak |
| kb9vqf | he/she knows exactly what is happening |
| kb9vqf | not wondering "is this thing on?" |
| Z_God | yep, and that also looks neat |
| kb9vqf | so tell me this: If graphical stuff is all the rage right now in FOSS, why don't we have a decent CAD program yet? |
| Z_God | I think design != eyecandy ;) |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | eyecandy is just that: candy |
| kb9vqf | bad for the brain |
| kb9vqf | on the developer's end as well |
| kb9vqf | actually I would like to run a study |
| Z_God | at least too much of it yes |
| kb9vqf | my theory is that eyecandy enabled devices encourage hyperactivity ala ADHD |
| Z_God | even when the animations make the whole system "calmer"? ;) |
| kb9vqf | rather than the brain idiling while it waits (or better yet doing something else like looking around) it is constantly engaged by the flashy animation on the screen |
| kb9vqf | of course it depends |
| Z_God | but when you have to wait less |
| kb9vqf | but I have never seen "calmer" animations |
| Z_God | because there is less candy to wait for |
| Z_God | you also idle less |
| kb9vqf | yes, but then your work is done faster |
| Z_God | and you get more work to do |
| kb9vqf | so we should be using pencils and paper? |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Z_God | in some situations, using tricks to people relax a tiny bit regularly, might also be good |
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| kb9vqf | it also discourages responsibility from the individual--the individual learns to relax only when told |
| Z_God | but overall studies suggest that this eyecandy does not improve productivity though |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | and I suspect it has a deeper effect in hyperactivity |
| kb9vqf | the brain does not take kindly to rapid idle/productive/idle cycling |
| Z_God | ok, that makes sense yes |
| MutantTurkey | "studies suggest" |
| kb9vqf | haven't you ever been frustrated by a computer taking too long to catch up to what you are wanting to do |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| Z_God | I'm not frustrated too quickly luckily :) |
| MutantTurkey | I concur. actually eye candy just distracts you. |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | my theory is that things need to be smooth. |
| kb9vqf | and the brain is a bit odd |
| kb9vqf | it has multiple "networks" |
| kb9vqf | only one is actually active at a time |
| MutantTurkey | less = more |
| kb9vqf | so switching tasks (e.g. from work to Facebook) actually uses a lot of resources |
| kb9vqf | think of it as a CPU with a very expensive context switch operation :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: we cannot truely multitask (or so they say) |
| kb9vqf | exactly |
| MutantTurkey | typically I agree |
| kb9vqf | you can't |
| kb9vqf | but your mind is the measurement device, so you have no idea of the impact of the "context switch" |
| kb9vqf | until you look at a clock and realize how much time you have wasted |
| Z_God | in my case, I'm not able to certain things for a long period of time though |
| kb9vqf | there is also fatigue and burnout |
| Z_God | it works better for me when I spend a bit of attention on them, then do smth else, then get back to them |
| kb9vqf | you don't want to do the same thing for hours on end any more than you want to be interrupted every two seconds for half a second |
| kb9vqf | correct |
| Z_God | like studying words |
| kb9vqf | and that is what I was saying above (albiet badly) |
| kb9vqf | the faster you can complete a task, the faster you can take a *real* break |
| kb9vqf | one that allows the brain to reset |
| Z_God | yes, I don't think I would want to wait, just to be able to see some smooth animation |
| kb9vqf | and yet that is exactly what the average user wants |
| kb9vqf | why? |
| kb9vqf | I think I know :) |
| kb9vqf | because using a computer is like a game to them |
| Z_God | or to impress people maybe |
| kb9vqf | they don't really do any hard work on it |
| Z_God | it's like having a shiny car |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | a shiny car with a loud engine |
| kb9vqf | not very practical |
| Z_God | but I never had people ask me specifically for this actually |
| MutantTurkey | someone just asked me how ritchie was more significant than jobs... sigh |
| Z_God | even though I set up quite a few people with Trinity |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: shiny car, oud engine |
| MutantTurkey | that is why petty consume laptops are flashy |
| kb9vqf | shiny sports car |
| Z_God | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | that is why facebook gets redesigned every week |
| Z_God | I hate it, I can't use it anymore |
| kb9vqf | now take your sports car to the grocery store |
| kb9vqf | it might take two trips ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | now my state of the art, top of the line, business grade laptop (yes I am gloating, I think i am allowed after 4 years on an atom) |
| Z_God | and I know other people also have difficulty with facebook due to that |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: yeah. I avoid it mostly |
| MutantTurkey | I just quit twitter though, so i need some new form of outlet. |
| Z_God | I have facebook set up to mail & jabber everything to me |
| Z_God | but facebook is often broken :S |
| kb9vqf | I don't agree with the Facebook TOS so I don't use it :)) |
| Z_God | I like Google+ because it just uses mail & jabber and doesn't try to reinvent anything new |
| kb9vqf | anyway I think some serious scientific studies would back up projects like this one and their GUI methodology |
| kb9vqf | but they will never be "popular" |
| Z_God | I think Trinity should aim at developers |
| kb9vqf | sort of like a recording studio versus a cheap $5 walkman clone |
| Z_God | and the next release should be on Slashdot ;) |
| kb9vqf | which one is going to be more popular? ;-) |
| kb9vqf | s/walkman/ipod/iphone/g |
| MutantTurkey | Google+ is not to good either |
| Z_God | yep, there are some things that need to be improved |
| kb9vqf | yes, Trinity aims at *real* developers |
| MutantTurkey | frankly i see little need for social networing |
| MutantTurkey | mostly I just use it because I need to contact my girlfriend, etc |
| Z_God | I don't think G+ is really a social network |
| MutantTurkey | it is |
| MutantTurkey | more in a twitter sense of it though |
| kb9vqf | you know, those people who know the innards of their computer and how to bend it to their will |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| * kb9vqf needs to go | |
| kb9vqf | gn all |
| Z_God | good night! |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: did you ever read real programmers xkcd? |
| MutantTurkey | wait! |
| MutantTurkey | very important |
| MutantTurkey | http://xkcd.com/378/ |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | then sleep |
| MutantTurkey | the good old C-x M-x M-butterfly |
| Z_God | my parents also use trinity without problems really and it's good for them because things stayed the same for 10 years for them ;) |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | a real programmer wants more control, not less |
| kb9vqf | thereby invalidating that cartoon |
| kb9vqf | :)) |
| MutantTurkey | it's a joe |
| MutantTurkey | joke' |
| MutantTurkey | anyhow |
| kb9vqf | I know :)) |
| MutantTurkey | It does illustrate the good vim vs emacs war |
| kb9vqf | just having fun |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | and I say "why use those outdated editors? Try kate!" |
| kb9vqf | :)) |
| Z_God | when there was vim VS emacs at wineconf |
| Z_God | quite a few people said kate |
| Z_God | in 2009 |
| Z_God | and I'm sure it has millions of users |
| Z_God | I also need to leave, I'll install natty tomorrow in a VM |
| Z_God | good night!! |
| MutantTurkey | kate I like, I am a big fan of geany as well |
| MutantTurkey | Good night. |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I will send that patch in soon for the string errors |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 542 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=542 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Adding KDE3 kiosktool to TDE |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 543 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=543 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ktorrent string errors |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: uploaded that patch |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 539 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=539 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, XMMS don't work in Trinity |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 423 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=423 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Bugzilla: Incorrect link on advanced search page |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: me thinks something is up with png and kicker |
| MutantTurkey | there ar ea few errors with it loading the configure screen. kickoff also hangs on loading a png ( I think, not sure, [but strace seems to show that it is stuck in that circle) |
| MutantTurkey | though not sure... |
| MutantTurkey | might be totally wrong |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: do we have debug versions of qt3? |
| MutantTurkey | as a package? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | qt-x11-free-dbg |
| MutantTurkey | ok thank you |
| MutantTurkey | that should help debugging a bit :) |
| kb9vqf | np |
| MutantTurkey | says they should be automatically used by gdb, but I don't think they are |
| MutantTurkey | keep getting things like kernel/X.ccp not found |
| MutantTurkey | and such |
| kb9vqf | huh |
| kb9vqf | it works here :-/ |
| kb9vqf | did you ever install qt3 from source? |
| MutantTurkey | weirdo |
| MutantTurkey | I can't seem to get it to compile... |
| kb9vqf | because if you ever installed it from source during the history of your computer the debugging symbols may be permanently broken |
| MutantTurkey | another thing. I think our png in qt maybe borked, or the way kicker is calling it is broken |
| kb9vqf | which kicker? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: :| permenantly? jeez ubuntu... |
| MutantTurkey | kickoff |
| kb9vqf | well, that's a bug in kickoff |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| kb9vqf | everything else works 100% |
| MutantTurkey | I know that :) |
| kb9vqf | ok :) |
| * kb9vqf hates Kickoff with a passion | |
| MutantTurkey | me as well. |
| MutantTurkey | but, eliminating bugs that I can handle is more important then talking about what I like |
| kb9vqf | that's fine |
| kb9vqf | but don't expect much help from me on kickoff |
| MutantTurkey | of course |
| kb9vqf | I have much more important things to do, such as mopping my floor :-P |
| kb9vqf | j/k |
| MutantTurkey | more like mopping up the oneiric mess |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | bad joke |
| MutantTurkey | every release I have more bitter resentment for ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | now it is flat out hatred. |
| kb9vqf | me too |
| kb9vqf | although the core sytem works well |
| kb9vqf | I have to give them that |
| MutantTurkey | they are taking advantage of linux |
| MutantTurkey | and the foss system |
| MutantTurkey | to make money in an evil way. |
| kb9vqf | yes, but they polish it up |
| MutantTurkey | I am okay with corporate involvemnt, red hat enterprise etc |
| kb9vqf | I don't want to have to fight with arcane subsystems for every single install |
| kb9vqf | Ubuntu did polish up that aspect quite nicely |
| MutantTurkey | but ubuntu actually doesn't even mention that its based on linux.... |
| MutantTurkey | at ALL |
| MutantTurkey | on their website |
| kb9vqf | I don't like what they say |
| kb9vqf | I am only interested in part of their final product |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MutantTurkey | "THE UBUNTU OPERATING SYSTEM. FEATURING X Y Z ALL BY UBUNTU" |
| kb9vqf | I mean we're throwing away 75% of the packages they offer already by not using KDE4, Gnome, etc. |
| kb9vqf | yes, I have a problem with that |
| MutantTurkey | they pretend to be part of the foss community but they are actually forcing new users to keep out |
| MutantTurkey | did i tell you I got in an argument with an ubuntu user. |
| kb9vqf | but given a choice between fighting with other distros just to make them work at all (Debian anyone?) I'll cut my losses and use the Ubuntu core |
| MutantTurkey | we were chatting about it, and I was like "have you tried any other Linux distros" he said "ubuntu isn't linux..." |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| kb9vqf | What does Linus have to say about it? |
| kb9vqf | It is his OS after all... |
| kb9vqf | (largely) |
| MutantTurkey | debian is by far the greatest distro |
| kb9vqf | If your computer is at least a few years old |
| MutantTurkey | in terms of usage, stabilty, community |
| kb9vqf | But it doesn't run properly on new hardware |
| MutantTurkey | :? |
| kb9vqf | been there, done that :-P |
| MutantTurkey | archlinux is my favorite of course :P |
| MutantTurkey | another thing with ubuntu, is that the company makes design decisions and forces you to keep with them. every six months |
| kb9vqf | because it stagnates for so long between releases if won't run on hardware designed and manufactured within the past year or so typically |
| kb9vqf | If debian had a faster release cycle then I'd use it instead |
| kb9vqf | oh, and the other thing is if a proproetary driver exists I want to use it easily |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: just use thier testing. |
| kb9vqf | Ubuntu lets me do that |
| kb9vqf | Debian does not |
| kb9vqf | *proprietary |
| kb9vqf | testing can break at any time :-P |
| MutantTurkey | meh. it's usually okay. |
| MutantTurkey | unstable is a bit more likely to break |
| kb9vqf | I need a better guarantee than that here, sorry :) |
| MutantTurkey | but I have been running arch for like 4 years, no breaks, and thats all bleeding |
| MutantTurkey | anyway, I digress. |
| kb9vqf | all it takes is one problem in the kernel and POOF |
| MutantTurkey | I find that ubuntu is less stable because of the frequent upgrades. |
| kb9vqf | Well, I have my reasons :) |
| kb9vqf | others do to |
| kb9vqf | actually I use both Ubuntu and Debian |
| kb9vqf | Debian on the servers, because they don't run proprietary stuff |
| kb9vqf | *some of the servers rather |
| kb9vqf | and Ubuntu on the desktops |
| MutantTurkey | ubuntu is just yucky system wise i find. weird paths, oddball things that aren't part of the standards typically found in desktops. even things like upstart and the whole init system I find unbearable |
| MutantTurkey | arch has a BSD style init system. it rocks. |
| kb9vqf | upstart is FAST |
| kb9vqf | I like it honestly |
| MutantTurkey | anyway :O about to get off the bus. gotta split |
| kb9vqf | ok |
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| KingSphinx | Bleh, Ubuntu's taking forever to upgrade. |
| kb9vqf | Please wait while Ubuntu installs 'bloat': 'KDE4'....'Gnome'...'Unity'...100%...Done! |
| kb9vqf | Now stealing your passwords....complete! |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| KingSphinx | lol, I'm just upgrading because I'm trying to stay up-to-date. Still wish Ubuntu had a rolling-release version though, these six-month upgrades get annoying. |
| KingSphinx | And according to the channel logs, there's a problem with Trinity's Kickoff? I'd forgotten there was even a KDE3 version of Kickoff... |
| kb9vqf | yeah, well...it's not maintained very well at all :) |
| kb9vqf | all of the original bugs are still in it |
| KingSphinx | Was this KDE3-native or a backport from 4? |
| KingSphinx | also, yes, it's very buggy... Kickoff works great in 4, 3? Not so much. :P |
| kb9vqf | it was the OpenSUSE project version of kickoff |
| kb9vqf | I hate it personally |
| kb9vqf | that's why it has never been fixed :) |
| kb9vqf | if someone wanted to clean it up I'd accept the fixes into SVN though |
| KingSphinx | But it kinda has to be included? |
| kb9vqf | there are people who want it |
| kb9vqf | and it doesn't hurt...if someone upgrades from KDE3.5.10 they will notice a missing feature that used to exist, but they won't notice if it's just as bad as it was under KDE3.5.10 :) |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: can I install something locally to test it? i.e /usr/local/ ? or will it go whack? |
| kb9vqf | dunno |
| MutantTurkey | should probably be just in opt |
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| KingSphinx | Whoo, upgraded to 11.10. Unity was kinda borked though, so I installed GNOME Shell. |
| KingSphinx | Wonder if installing Shell fixed Unity... |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: well found the broken function |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| MutantTurkey | in the kickoff |
| kb9vqf | oh, ok |
| kb9vqf | well, send in a patch when you fix it |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
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| KingSphinx | Yep, Unity's fixed. |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: one thing I do like about kickoff is the search function |
| kb9vqf | there is one in the standard KMenu as well |
| MutantTurkey | pretty handy. I know the regular menu has it too |
| MutantTurkey | it's a bit different format. inthe standard kmenu, you have to go into different categories to see |
| MutantTurkey | a few more clicks. both are acceptable |
| kb9vqf | I'd rather know where the thing is for next time |
| kb9vqf | instead of being helpess and fully dependent on the search :-/ |
| MutantTurkey | that is true |
| MutantTurkey | in windows 7 I am completely dependant an the search |
| MutantTurkey | because those menus are just to much for me. |
| kb9vqf | and you keep typing the same things over and over I bet :- |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | I mean, I am not really a menu guy anyway. I only use about 3 apps |
| MutantTurkey | browser, terminal, konversation |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | you could use the quicklaunch for that |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: cooking dinner for my girlfriend tonight. how many hackers does it take to make pasta? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I do! :D i love quick launch |
| kb9vqf | don't know |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: do you reckon that suse has a working kickoff? isn't that where we got it? |
| * MutantTurkey asks to many questions | |
| kb9vqf | that's where we got it from |
| kb9vqf | I think theirs works just as badly as ours |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| kb9vqf | except it has nicer graphics |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | ours looks ok |
| KingSphinx | I still wonder why KDE3 would even want a Kickoff, but whatever. |
| kb9vqf | (obviously we can't ship SuSE logos in upstream distro-agnistoc sources!) |
| MutantTurkey | the "Powered by TDE" looks a bit flakey though... |
| kb9vqf | hey, feel free to fix it |
| kb9vqf | I hate kickoff and won't touch it |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | on the list |
| MutantTurkey | also i've been going through our bug list closing off irrelevant ones and such |
| kb9vqf | I noticed |
| Z_God | installed natty now, at least I can compile kmozilla again & have it working |
| MutantTurkey | spend my extra time in chem knocking a few off |
| * Z_God knocks on wood | |
| kb9vqf | there are LOT of closed bugs out there, so that's good |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: closed bugs, and bugs that are closed and need to be verified |
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| MutantTurkey | or closed because we don't support karmic, for example |
| kb9vqf | fine with me |
| kb9vqf | I was a bit lazy earlier and didn't always close the bug report when it was fixed |
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| KingSphinx | There's still people that use Karmic? O_o |
| MutantTurkey | well, at least they aren't actual problems, but closing those ones off will make it easier to take down bugs |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: no we just have some lingering bug reports from karmic, obviously that are irrelevant now |
| MutantTurkey | just some administrative cleanup :) |
| kb9vqf | yes, one of my original users in acadamia still has Karmic on their systems :-P |
| kb9vqf | some organizaions don't want to take the time and effort to upgrade |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: also, ubuntu does have long term release installs every few (3?) versions |
| KingSphinx | Every four versions |
| MutantTurkey | thats it |
| KingSphinx | If organizations don't want to bother changing every six months, why not just go for Debian Stable or something like RHEL/CentOS? |
| MutantTurkey | yeah thats what i was thinking |
| MutantTurkey | dumb people -> want linux -> poor decisions about distro -> to lazy to change |
| MutantTurkey | at Drexel U, they had a few debian boxes, the rest seemed to be ubuntu with some sort of central login system |
| MutantTurkey | kinda cool |
| MutantTurkey | kinda funny, seeing kids use ubuntu (of course only in the comp sci dep) |
| Z_God | it's silly to change so often at an organisation |
| Z_God | and it's not necessary with Ubuntu either |
| Z_God | the LTS versions work perfectly fine |
| Z_God | and they give you 5 years of support for the server versions |
| Z_God | and 3 years for the desktop |
| Z_God | there is a new LTS version every two years, which gives you a year to upgrade the desktops and even more time for the servers |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay found the problem. the parsing mechanism media is totally borked |
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| kb9vqf | not sure what you mean... |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: there is a crappy parser with a bunch of for/while loops that parses the different "media" devices. eg usb, hd partitions |
| MutantTurkey | but the parser is fargled |
| MutantTurkey | so gotta work it out |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | sounds like a stupid design anyway |
| kb9vqf | typical from the KDE4 crowd |
| MutantTurkey | kinda busy tonight and tomorrow,, but tomorrow night i shoul dhave it |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: yeah. i mean the idea is ok. implementation is terrible |
| MutantTurkey | anyway gotta go cook! |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Status report? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 544 filed by michaelmartin007@hotmail.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=544 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Tutorials of kde3 development from KDE TechBase to www.trinitydestop.org |
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| KingSphinx | Well, I've run into my first annoying bug in 11.10... installing the Cantarell font caused GNOME Shell to display blocks instead of font. |
| kb9vqf | ooh, nice |
| KingSphinx | I could understand the blocks problem happening if I'd removed the font, but it was *installing* the font that caused the issue. Weird, huh? |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | the font is not complete I would guess |
| KingSphinx | Well, that's dumb. |
| kb9vqf | yes it is |
| kb9vqf | but it's also typical Ubuntu all the way |
| kb9vqf | BTW how do you like Gnome? |
| KingSphinx | Non-broken? It's actually not bad. Made quite an improvement from GNOME 3.0 to 3.2 |
| KingSphinx | Hardware acceleration actually seems to work in 3.2 |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| kb9vqf | better in overall design than Trinity? |
| KingSphinx | (as in, Shell runs smoothly. It ran like poo in Fedora...) |
| KingSphinx | Lol, it's minimalistic and efficient. There's always room for a traditional desktop though, and that's where Trinity comes in. :) |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| kb9vqf | so your lite app launcher versus a full fledged desktop? |
| kb9vqf | that's what you use both as? |
| * kb9vqf is curious how Trinity is filling in people | |
| kb9vqf | *filling in people's needs |
| KingSphinx | To be fair, if I had Trinity installed, I'd more than likely use it as my main, but for what it is, GNOME ain't too bad. Still not a fan of the tablet interface though. |
| KingSphinx | Also, Ubuntu IRC channel isn't really being helpful with my problems... then again, it's absolutely swamped, why did I think it'd be a good idea to go there? >_>; |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | and for what KDE4 is it isn't too bad, but what it is isn't something I would ever choose to use |
| kb9vqf | unless I had one of those surface computer toys maybe |
| KingSphinx | You mean that $50,000 computer table? (or however much it costs) |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 just doesn't seem to "fit" on a typical tablet screen |
| kb9vqf | but maybe if it could work with something larger... |
| * kb9vqf could see some use for it there | |
| kb9vqf | something with light-duty usage |
| kb9vqf | *something very large with light duty usage |
| kb9vqf | so I guess I'm saying KDE4 is not practical lol :) |
| * kb9vqf didn't realize what he was moving towards | |
| kb9vqf | of course Trinity would be a terrible choice for such a computer |
| kb9vqf | we really do need multiple desktop environments, one for each class of device I guess |
| KingSphinx | Duh, it's a traditional desktop-metaphor DE. Then again, Windows used to shoehorn its desktop into tablets, so who knows? |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | I was just laying out what I consider common sense :) |
| kb9vqf | that way the existence of the typical desktop can be explained as a tradeoff between price/real estate/cost and functionality |
| kb9vqf | and if the physical desktop computer itself is a good balance, then the specialized desktop environments to run on such machines should be retained, not replaced |
| KingSphinx | Oh, that whole "stuff randomly disappearing in Fireofx" thing is a bug? |
| KingSphinx | *Firefox |
| kb9vqf | yes, it seems so |
| kb9vqf | it's a bug in GTK |
| kb9vqf | or Firefox |
| kb9vqf | whatever it is I think MutantTurkey managed to work around it |
| kb9vqf | binaries are probably not built yet though |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 538 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=538 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, gtk-qt-engine contains deprecated components. |
| KingSphinx | Been waiting for about... two hours now...? Still no answer to my font problems on #ubuntu... geez |
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| KingSphinx | Huh... reinstalling that Cantarell font seems to have done the trick. Odd. |
| kb9vqf | maybe someone pushed an update already |
| KingSphinx | Now if only someone could figure out why Ubuntu Software Center seems to have permissions problems (it never prompts for my password, hence I can't use it to install anything), I'd be set. |
| kb9vqf | I'd check polkit |
| kb9vqf | I don't know how it works, but I do know that Ubuntu loves to use it instead of sudo :-/ |
| kb9vqf | and this has caused many headaches here |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 545 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=545 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdelibs fails to compile becouse of mcopidl fails to run (becouse of bad LDPATH) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 546 filed by raevynsrequiem@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=546 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Graphical Issue |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: around? I think I will close bug 517 on the grounds of being legally questionable |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=517 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, trinity-restricted-addons and trinity-restricted-extras |
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| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: hi. i'm working on cmake for kdeartwork now... is it a good ides to add variables like BUILD_KCLOCK_SCREENSAVER BUILD_KWAVE_SCREENSAVER etc for each screensaver? or make it WITH_ ? generally, is it a good idea to add workaround for making possible building only some screensavers? |
| Fat-Zer | the same with styles... |
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| Raevyn | Hello. Is there a way to delete the portion of my kde profile that stores my menu (its borked somehow) but not the entire desktop settings and appliation confirgurations? |
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| Fat-Zer | yes it's possible... |
| Fat-Zer | Raevyn: i don't remember what file is corresponds for what but u can edit menu and use find command to search for recently changed files. |
| Fat-Zer | seems it's ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu |
| Raevyn | Hm.. I will try that in the other profile I made. ITs weird.. I can edit and save my menu changes except for a utilties folder and its contents |
| Raevyn | that seems it thank you! |
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| Raevyn | Okay I think I found the issue.. GNOME. On my other user profile I never logged into GNOME with it so the menu looks normal but even after I removed the applications-kde file, the menu went wonky because its importing in GNOME menus. I think the only way to get around this is to move my files to another profile, delete this profile, and recreate it moving my personal files back and changing the permissions on them huh? |
| Raevyn | Actually... isnt it possible to copy over my other profiles correct menu to another? Just change the permissions on it? |
| Fat-Zer | look into ~/.config/menus/ directory according to freedesktop.org specifications all menu entries configuration should be there... |
| * Raevyn nods | |
| Raevyn | I think thats the big issue.. mine is all mucked up from my customizing the gnome menu. |
| Fat-Zer | so just delete it... or you whant to keep your gnome menu settings? |
| Fat-Zer | i think that won't work... |
| Raevyn | No I.. |
| Raevyn | well.. yea i am thinking its going to require user account stuff.. i might wait to get a new disk drive and just load trinity natively on it. |
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| KingSphinx | A question about GNUstep and Objective-C: is that really the same language that most of OS X's applications are built on? |
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| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: hi. i'm working on cmake for kdeartwork now... is it a good ides to add variables like BUILD_KCLOCK_SCREENSAVER BUILD_KWAVE_SCREENSAVER etc for each screensaver? or make it WITH_ ? generally, is it a good idea to add workaround for making possible building only some screensavers? the same with kwinstyles and some others... |
| MutantTurkey | are they in seperate folders? |
| Fat-Zer | no |
| MutantTurkey | I suggest then you don't seperate them |
| MutantTurkey | they should be bundled |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: how much progress have you made? also feel free to email me files (mutantturkey@gmail) if you want me to look over them. |
| Fat-Zer | kwin-styles kworldclock sounds styles and wallpapers are ready... |
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| Fat-Zer | but that wasn't really chalenging... |
| MutantTurkey | yeah it's not to hard |
| MutantTurkey | mostly just time consuming |
| MutantTurkey | well send some files over when you get them ready :) I want to double check them all for syntax and stuff |
| MutantTurkey | then we can have tim push it to the SVN |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: do you use kickoff? |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: are you around? suse question here |
| Fat-Zer | kscreensaver will be harder... and i don't know how to write ConfigureChecks.cmake... |
| Fat-Zer | >do you use kickoff? |
| Fat-Zer | no... what's that? |
| MutantTurkey | nevermind :P it's the kde4 menu system |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: why do you need to write for ConfigureChecks.cmake |
| MutantTurkey | I suggest looking at kdegraphics/ConfigureChecks.cmake or something |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: what do you need it for? |
| Fat-Zer | don't know... i think i should check for some header files and trinity stuff... |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | okay can you look at the kdegraphics/ConfigureChecks,cmake |
| MutantTurkey | it shows what is required (at the bottom it says #required stuff) |
| MutantTurkey | all else you will need is finding packages. |
| MutantTurkey | or headers |
| Fat-Zer | hmm... i'm just don't know for what headers and packages to check... |
| MutantTurkey | we need samelian :P he is the really smart one on cmake |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: okay, you many want to look at the configure.in.* files |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: just do what you can, if you need me to finish it, I can :) |
| MutantTurkey | It hard to explain because i am not very sure how to do it |
| Fat-Zer | ok... i'll do what i can/understand |
| MutantTurkey | ok :D |
| MutantTurkey | thanks! |
| Fat-Zer | cool... i attached localization and it works)) |
| MutantTurkey | sweet sweet |
| MutantTurkey | are you finding cmake to be okay to work with otherwise? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: I'm here, but coding knetworkmanager + programming project + studying cal, so I might respond a bit late >>; |
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| KingSphinx | Well, seems people have taken the hint and forked GNOME 2... it's called Mate Desktop Environment. |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: around? |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: can you take a look... cde window style doesn'compiles, becouse tde_add_kpart macro doesn' add libraryes for some rison. |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: here is a repository: git://github.com/Fat-Zer/kdeartwork.git |
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| KingSphinx | Bleh, Unity seems to be running like poo right now. (Not that it matters, GNOME Shell is my main DE until Oneiric builds of Trinity are done :P) |
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| ZZRX | hi, is here way how i can upgrade my system to use nightly builds? |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I have debug builds enabled, but how do I get the debugging information from the program? like the kdDebug output |
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| h31 | Hi all. Where can I get ISO of any distro with a fresh Trinity included? |
| MutantTurkey | h31: hey, we |
| MutantTurkey | we will be releasing a new liveCD with onieirc in the soon future |
| MutantTurkey | h31: but if you are looking to just install trinity, then you'll want a fresh copy of Ubuntu/Debian and from there you can instal trinity |
| h31 | MutantTurkey, ok, I'll try. And what about a Gentoo overlay? |
| MutantTurkey | h31: I don't know about gentoo. I don't use it. |
| MutantTurkey | last I recalled someone was working on it |
| MutantTurkey | let me look |
| MutantTurkey | hmm |
| MutantTurkey | h31: I don't think we have any gentoo packaging specs. |
| MutantTurkey | though I did think someone was working on it. |
| MutantTurkey | h31: but building trinity isn't too bad. and hey, isn't that half the fun of gentoo? |
| h31 | MutantTurkey, no, software in gentoo is not being build using configure-make-make install, there are special packages there too. |
| MutantTurkey | :P It was a joke |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: o/ |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: it's getting kicker caught in an infinite loop. I think because there is a for statement, and there are two i++'s and the conditional to end it is constEnd, but if you go over const end it goes back to the beginning |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: got some time? |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: always |
| MutantTurkey | also you can email me if you need help |
| MutantTurkey | in case I am out |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: what's the problem? |
| Fat-Zer | can you take a look... cde window style doesn't compiles, becouse tde_add_kpart macro doesn't add libraries for some reason. |
| Fat-Zer | can you take a look... cde window style doesn't compiles, becouse tde_add_kpart macro doesn't add libraries for some reason. |
| Fat-Zer | here is a repository: git://github.com/Fat-Zer/kdeartwork.git |
| MutantTurkey | okay i will look |
| MutantTurkey | do you have the whole kdeartwork base there or just the cmake files? |
| Fat-Zer | whole |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| Fat-Zer | btw if somebody will ask about gentoo packaging you can send them to me ;) |
| MutantTurkey | okay! |
| MutantTurkey | do you have it done? |
| MutantTurkey | I knew somebody was working, couldn't remeber whoo |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: are you building with cmake ../ -DBUILD_ALL=ON? |
| Fat-Zer | no |
| MutantTurkey | that should be an option |
| MutantTurkey | forget how I did it |
| Fat-Zer | cmake /tmp/kdeartwork/ -DBUILD_KWIN_STYLES=ON -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/tmp/kdeartwork-install |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | but you should be able to do -DBUILD_ALL=ON and build all modules |
| MutantTurkey | okay let me look at thekwin problem first |
| Fat-Zer | it's there... |
| Fat-Zer | the option... |
| Fat-Zer | too |
| MutantTurkey | does itwork? I see it |
| Fat-Zer | maybe... i haven't tried it yet |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm I cannot seem to build it :| |
| MutantTurkey | can't find my -lkdecore library |
| Fat-Zer | yes... that's a problem) |
| Fat-Zer | make VERBOSE=1 |
| Fat-Zer | what compiler command you get? |
| MutantTurkey | usr/bin/c++ -fPIC -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -include tqt.h -Wl,--no-undefined -shared -Wl,-soname,AUTOMOC.so -o AUTOMOC.so CMakeFiles/AUTOMOC-module.dir/cdeclient.cpp.o -lkdecorations -lkdecore |
| Fat-Zer | yes... the same... |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | so it's the tde_add_kpart that is at issue |
| MutantTurkey | did you look at the wiki? samelian has a page on cmake |
| MutantTurkey | let me find |
| Fat-Zer | nope... a second... |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/CMakeConversionProcess |
| Fat-Zer | that describes nothing that i haven't get from cake files... |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: okya |
| MutantTurkey | you need to add kparts-shared first of all |
| MutantTurkey | all kparts need that in LINK |
| MutantTurkey | and the others should be XX-shared |
| MutantTurkey | kdecore-shared |
| MutantTurkey | with kdecorations-shared I don't know. where is that library from? |
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| MutantTurkey | weird just chrashed |
| * Fat-Zer thinking... | |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: i don't know what kdecorations is or where it's from thouhg |
| Fat-Zer | it's part of kwin |
| Fat-Zer | for me /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkdecorations.so |
| MutantTurkey | kwin-shared maybe then |
| MutantTurkey | guess not |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: I've gotta go out for a while. might be back tonight. |
| MutantTurkey | look around in other cmake files in the tree okay? |
| MutantTurkey | email me with problems I'll have my phone |
| MutantTurkey | sorry :| |
| Fat-Zer | ok |
| Fat-Zer | thanks for pshing me right direction |
| Fat-Zer | *pushing |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
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| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: progress? |
| Fat-Zer | yes |
| Fat-Zer | 1 min... i'll upload it... |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: https://github.com/Fat-Zer/kdeartwork/blob/master/kwin-styles/cde/CMakeLists.txt |
| Fat-Zer | the problem becouse kwin doesn't create ${TDE_CMAKE_DIR}/kwin.cmake |
| Fat-Zer | maybe the better way is to add "tde_install_export( )" into the end of win's CMakeList.txt |
| Fat-Zer | *kwin's |
| Fat-Zer | and include it in window styles CMake's |
| Fat-Zer | but that works ok too... |
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| MutantTurkey | create that then |
| MutantTurkey | if kwin doesn't create it, then why not add it? |
| MutantTurkey | to kwin |
| Fat-Zer | becouse it's out of my power )) |
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| KingSphinx | Create wha? Sorry, i came in a bit late. |
| Fat-Zer | KingSphinx: this http://paste.pocoo.org/show/493488/] |
| KingSphinx | KWin extensions? |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: it is not |
| MutantTurkey | if it has not been made yet ,and needs to be made |
| MutantTurkey | well then make it! |
| MutantTurkey | as long as it is in line with the style we have now |
| Fat-Zer | wait... i need test onething... |
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| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: this patch: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/493496/ |
| Fat-Zer | it creates and installs kwin.cmake |
| Fat-Zer | like this: |
| Fat-Zer | add_library( kdecorations-shared SHARED IMPORTED ) |
| Fat-Zer | set_target_properties( kdecorations-shared PROPERTIES |
| Fat-Zer | IMPORTED_LINK_INTERFACE_LIBRARIES "kdecore-shared" |
| Fat-Zer | IMPORTED_LOCATION "/usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkdecorations.so.1.0.0" |
| Fat-Zer | IMPORTED_SONAME "libkdecorations.so.1" ) |
| Fat-Zer | you can look at kicker or konqueror CMakeList.txt there is the same... |
| MutantTurkey | so is that the solution? |
| Fat-Zer | yes |
| Fat-Zer | it's the right solution... |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: i think i should tell Tim about that or write to mailing list? |
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| MutantTurkey | what does a kwin.cmake do? |
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| Fat-Zer | it provides information for link with kdecorations-shared |
| Fat-Zer | it's simmilar with other files in $KDEDIR/share/cmake/ |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | so that is the solution |
| MutantTurkey | the right solution |
| Fat-Zer | yep) |
| MutantTurkey | so just mail it in when you do the whole thing |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: also, I love github :) |
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| Fat-Zer | this patch can be applied anytime... it breaks nothing... |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: can you send it? |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: watch your syntax too :) make sure too keep the spacing consistant |
| Fat-Zer | allready send... |
| Fat-Zer | i'm trying... have you seen problems? |
| Fat-Zer | but i like tabs more than spaces... |
| MutantTurkey | dude |
| MutantTurkey | set your tab key to equal 2 spaces |
| MutantTurkey | most editors can do that I know of |
| MutantTurkey | at least vim/emacs/geany can all |
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| Fat-Zer | i know =)) but i'm working not only on trinity... |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | what else are you working on? |
| Fat-Zer | my university work... |
| MutantTurkey | what university do you attend? |
| MutantTurkey | going bowling! be back later |
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| ZZRX | hi, is here way how i can upgrade my system to use nightly builds? |
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| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: yo |
| Fat-Zer | only two mire modules... |
| Fat-Zer | icons and screensaver) |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | let me know and I can re pull it |
| MutantTurkey | then I can make sure its okay, make changes and push it back to you |
| MutantTurkey | i'll do a pull request or something. I don't remember how git does it really |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: DOODE DOODE DOODE |
| MutantTurkey | i got it worknig i think |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: seemed that the it needed to go i++; i++; i++; because there was a new entry every 4 lines |
| MutantTurkey | dunno if it's legit. but if it works... |
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| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: progress? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: hey dude I think I fixed it up okay. It's working now for me |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | send in a patch to a bug report... |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | still working on the whole button being/working funky |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: is there a way to get back to the svn's latest version? |
| kb9vqf | svn up |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I meant if i had modified files |
| kb9vqf | or if you meant revert, then svn revert --recrusive . |
| kb9vqf | *recursive |
| MutantTurkey | okay thanks : |
| kb9vqf | from within the directory you want reverted |
| kb9vqf | np |
| MutantTurkey | gotta test this more throughly |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: how do I build a package again? |
| kb9vqf | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: can I build with static libraries? |
| kb9vqf | no idea |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| kb9vqf | probably if you play with the CMake file |
| kb9vqf | *files |
| MutantTurkey | yeahgot it |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also, can I reinstall a package? |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| kb9vqf | dpkg -i <packagename>.deb |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | most confusing thing about the debian packaging system is that there are many different tools |
| MutantTurkey | pretty sure I just borked my system |
| MutantTurkey | gotta hit the bed anyway |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: nice |
| MutantTurkey | now it doesn't crash |
| MutantTurkey | but the button still sucks. gotta fix that up tomorrow |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | then bug report and patch... |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | also that firefox patch is nice :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I don't know if my patch is legit. it seems so dumb of a mistake my solution just seems randomly to work |
| MutantTurkey | solution seems to trivial |
| kb9vqf | firefox patch? |
| kb9vqf | the one already committed to SVN? |
| kb9vqf | all programmers can make dumb mistakes BTW; fix them as you find them... |
| MutantTurkey | yes the one in the svn |
| MutantTurkey | that is nice |
| kb9vqf | good to hear it works proplery :) |
| kb9vqf | *properly |
| kb9vqf | solutions can be trivial |
| kb9vqf | send the patch in on a bug report--if it's wrong I'll say so |
| MutantTurkey | yes. I sent it in |
| MutantTurkey | if this isn't the solution, I am going to have to do a whole overhaul of that area of code (which is okay, I am just a slow learner so far at C++ and I have constantly look everything up) |
| MutantTurkey | anyway I really gotta sleep night. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 547 filed by neptunia@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=547 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gtk-qt-engine does not support GTK3 |
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| schreiberstein | how can i use my apple magic mouse on trinity? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: something funky happened and I don't have a /opt/trinity/share/cmake/libkonq.cmake. do you know what package provides it? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: fatzer is making good progress on cmake. that is encouraging |
| kb9vqf | yes it is |
| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Status report please |
| MutantTurkey | I'm trying to help him oversee it a little bit. |
| MutantTurkey | throw some pointers |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: do you want me to start dealing with bug 547 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=547 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gtk-qt-engine does not support GTK3 |
| MutantTurkey | I have ported a few apps to GTK3 already |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | go right ahead |
| kb9vqf | but please don't break GTK2 support |
| MutantTurkey | I am trying to figure out how to implement that |
| MutantTurkey | it might need to be qt-gtk2-engine qt-gtk-3engine |
| MutantTurkey | seperate sources |
| MutantTurkey | because you cannot do it the other way |
| kb9vqf | hmm |
| kb9vqf | do a new module in the current engine |
| kb9vqf | we don't need two separate configuration modules for instance |
| MutantTurkey | a new module in the current engine OK |
| MutantTurkey | we will see :P |
| kb9vqf | by a new module I mean a completely different .so file compiled from code in its own folder--the only linkage is that it uses the settings files from the original kcontrol module |
| kb9vqf | make sense? |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | should I just start by making a foldre and copying the source into it? |
| MutantTurkey | I mean basically the conversion is simple, instead of rewrite |
| MutantTurkey | the source |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | that is exactly what you should d |
| kb9vqf | *do |
| kb9vqf | move src to src2 |
| kb9vqf | copy src2 to src3 |
| kb9vqf | fix the CMake files to build src2/ and src3/ instead of src/ |
| kb9vqf | hack on src3 |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | network-manager 0.9 scares me |
| kb9vqf | from a security perspective |
| kb9vqf | they have literally forced all connection information to be stored in a system wide configuration database |
| kb9vqf | so it's up to how good their access controls are at keeping things secret, instead of POSIX |
| kb9vqf | :eek: |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: basic backporting done, but probably not even close to functional. Will probably spend this week making it much better. |
| Xu_R | on another note: today was hell, even though it's only Monday. bbl. very delayed replies incoming. |
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| kb9vqf-web | Xu_R: Trinity 3.5.13 will ship with nm-applet; the changes to knetworkmanager would require a complete rewrite. At this point I do not see much of a problem with using nm-applet with the GTK/Qt engine |
| kb9vqf-web | If someone wants to rewrite knetworkmanager I won't stop them, and the knetworkmanager 0.8 version will still ship with 3.5.13 and later versions |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf-web: yea, I figured this would happen :-\ |
| kb9vqf-web | It just does not make sense to duplicate effort at this point |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf-web: from above: I did some basic backporting, now to actually finish and stuff... |
| kb9vqf-web | the problem is knetworkmanager is designed around its internal connection database |
| kb9vqf-web | nm 0.9 suddenly requires you to use the system database only |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf-web: I noticed that when I was trying to backport some of it :-\ |
| kb9vqf-web | yes |
| kb9vqf-web | it needs a rewrite |
| Xu_R | and we don't have resources for a rewrite right now... |
| kb9vqf-web | And I would wait until network-manager 1.0 at the earliest |
| kb9vqf-web | the API chages too radically and too often right now for anyone other than netowrk-manager itself to make an applet for it |
| Xu_R | just in case the API changes again |
| Xu_R | yea. |
| kb9vqf-web | correct |
| kb9vqf-web | I mean it's chancing every year right now :-P |
| kb9vqf-web | *changing |
| kb9vqf-web | we got lucky with 0.7 and 0.8 |
| Xu_R | ah, linux is changing wayy to fast >_>;; |
| kb9vqf-web | And I really, really don't like the lack of security in 0.9 |
| kb9vqf-web | no, just certain GNOME progjects :-P |
| kb9vqf-web | *projects |
| Xu_R | XD at least kde4 learned their lesson and slowed down XD |
| kb9vqf-web | hehe |
| kb9vqf-web | so they're shipping the same bugs in each new release? :-P)) |
| Xu_R | LOL |
| Xu_R | probably XD |
| kb9vqf-web | I did split off knetworkmanager into knetworkmanager8 and knetworkmanager9 |
| Xu_R | especially if they're marking legitimate bugs as NOTABUG |
| kb9vqf-web | yep |
| Xu_R | ok. that keeps both of them seperate :P |
| kb9vqf-web | knetworkmanager9 will contain the rewrite eventually |
| kb9vqf-web | right now it's just a clone of knetworkmanager8 |
| kb9vqf-web | and before that even, we should see what the most irritating parts of nm-applet are |
| kb9vqf-web | so that the rewrite can fix them |
| kb9vqf-web | we don't need to stay with the old knetworkmanager UI... |
| kb9vqf-web | anyway, just wanted to let you know |
| Xu_R | a full rewrite! what fun >_>; |
| kb9vqf-web | you could star working on it if you want |
| kb9vqf-web | :) |
| kb9vqf-web | *start |
| Xu_R | I don't know enough about Qt3 to even attempt that right now :P |
| Xu_R | nor do I happen to have enough time DX |
| kb9vqf-web | ok |
| Xu_R | backporting and fixing is as far as I can go right now :( |
| kb9vqf-web | well, it might just end up on the never-done list :) |
| Xu_R | who knows... |
| Xu_R | we just need more people first... |
| kb9vqf-web | actually if I can skin nm-applet with gtk-qt-engine then I don't see the point in a unique applet for Trinity |
| kb9vqf-web | I mean the functionality is identical |
| kb9vqf-web | in fact, nm-applet will work *better* in most cases |
| Xu_R | people just want uniqueness... or pure Qt... |
| kb9vqf-web | I don't care |
| kb9vqf-web | Trinity is not a religion built around Qt3 :-P |
| Xu_R | XD |
| kb9vqf-web | if there's a beter app in a different toolkit I've always said to use it :) |
| kb9vqf-web | *better, unline my typing today |
| kb9vqf-web | *unline |
| kb9vqf-web | *unlike |
| kb9vqf-web | grr |
| Xu_R | hehe |
| Xu_R | exactly |
| Xu_R | unlike what Ilya is doing ._. |
| kb9vqf-web | and if it doesn't blend in with Trinity then there's a bug in the intergration package(s) |
| kb9vqf-web | Trinity should present a unified graphical interface, but through those integration packages, not through rewrites and reinventing the wheel |
| kb9vqf-web | Let MutantTurkey know please |
| kb9vqf-web | he was curious |
| Xu_R | sure |
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| kb9vqf-web | not logged in :) |
| Xu_R | :P |
| kb9vqf-web | also he should keep fixing bugs as he is already doing with the gtk engine |
| kb9vqf-web | oneiric is almost built... |
| kb9vqf-web | :)) |
| kb9vqf-web | release is ON SCHEDULE for Nov. 1 |
| Xu_R | :D |
| Fat-Zer | i haven't seen the whole talk. but you are talking about not rewriting kde applet with new api? |
| kb9vqf-web | correct |
| kb9vqf-web | unless someone really wants to do it |
| Fat-Zer | omm.... |
| kb9vqf-web | you can view the discussion in the channel log :) |
| kb9vqf-web | functionally, knetworkmanager was always behind nm-applet anyway |
| kb9vqf-web | and with proper gtk integration, using nm-applet should actualyl be an improvement |
| kb9vqf-web | *actually |
| kb9vqf-web | Did you have a different opinio? |
| kb9vqf-web | *opinion? |
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| Fat-Zer | AFAIK nm-applet requires a big part of gnome isn't it? |
| kb9vqf-web | no |
| kb9vqf-web | just some libraries AFAIK |
| kb9vqf-web | common GTK libraries that are probably on your system already to be honest |
| kb9vqf-web | network-manager pulls in more dependencies than the applet does AFAIK |
| * kb9vqf-web goes to look | |
| kb9vqf-web | the network-manager devs advertise that the nm-applet can be used on XFCE, GNOME, etc. |
| Fat-Zer | it pulls gnome-keyrings for me... |
| kb9vqf-web | the keyring I can understand |
| kb9vqf-web | that's only a few KB though |
| kb9vqf-web | that's no different than if you installed one library from Trinity--it would pull in the kyering for all of Trinity |
| kb9vqf-web | but not actually INSTALL all of Trinity ;-) |
| Fat-Zer | yes... but IMHO to hame a special kde appelete is better... |
| kb9vqf-web | if you want to write it go ahead... |
| Fat-Zer | =) |
| kb9vqf-web | my estimate is 6 months solid of a developer's time |
| kb9vqf-web | that's expensive in either time or $$$$ |
| kb9vqf-web | and what do we REALLY get out of it? |
| Fat-Zer | yea... i understand that. |
| kb9vqf-web | I could understand if it was some special app with no direct replacement anywhere, such as Konqueror :) |
| kb9vqf-web | Looks like the largest dependency is the icon pack: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/network-manager-gnome |
| kb9vqf-web | and the buggest problem is that it uses GTK 3.0, but MutantTurkey is fixing that |
| kb9vqf-web | *-biggest |
| Fat-Zer | have you seen the small patch i send to ML yesturday? |
| kb9vqf-web | For CMake? |
| kb9vqf-web | yes |
| Fat-Zer | yes. |
| kb9vqf-web | I'll commit that and the other kdebase patch for kickoff a bit later |
| Fat-Zer | ok thanks) |
| kb9vqf-web | probably in the next few days |
| kb9vqf-web | np |
| kb9vqf-web | Fat-Zer: Also, as I was saying to Xu_R, I would definitely wait for nm API v1.0 before even trying to do a rewrite |
| kb9vqf-web | who knows what changes will occur in a year |
| kb9vqf-web | I would want to see a stable (non-development) version of the library before even attempting that |
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| Fat-Zer | yes... i've seen that. |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: looks like there are a few bug reports related to that one kickoff problem |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: Rodger that. |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay so kickoff uses KNewButton, which is terrible, bloaty and doesn't really work or follow the other settings. it actually uses a TQmovie to draw the regular button... Idk |
| MutantTurkey | it's weird and not very minimalistic like the regular KButton |
| MutantTurkey | so I am going to modify it to use KButton |
| MutantTurkey | it messes with the rest of the bar as well |
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| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: hey |
| Fat-Zer | hi... |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I got it to embed without KNewButton, so that mess is out of the way. It even uses the user defined icon. but now it won't open :x |
| Fat-Zer | nearly finished kscreensaver/kdesavers... |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: awesome |
| MutantTurkey | thanks for helping :) |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: but I know it's initialized |
| Fat-Zer | np |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: almost got kickoff working, just need to get one more function working |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: it's not so much source wise, but there will be some files removed. is that messy? |
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| MutantTurkey | now it pops up in the wrong spot :x |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: what is ilya doing about nm 0.9? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: absolutely nothing. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: okay so we use nm-applet? |
| Xu_R | yup |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: also I am fixing up kickoff :) |
| MutantTurkey | what about gnome-keyring? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: can't seem to work out this problem, but what I have so far fixes almost all of the kickoff problems |
| MutantTurkey | meh i give up |
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| KingSphinx | And once again, I've had to reinstall Kubuntu. Seems regular Ubuntu really doesn't like when you install KDE, then try to remove Unity. |
| KingSphinx | I will say this though: KDE managed to get everything right so far with 4.7... it hasn't crashed at all. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 548 filed by plaws@ou.edu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=548 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, "Unsupported Platform" |
| MobileTurkey | Fat-Zer: heya dude |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: still busy with school? |
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| Fat-Zer | MobileTurkey: nearly no progress since yesterday.... i only added an IconThemes... i belive tomorow everything will be ready =) |
| Fat-Zer | *believe |
| Fat-Zer | turday i realised that i can copy nearly all difficult issues from kde4'ths files... |
| MobileTurkey | okay cool |
| MobileTurkey | well if you have it all ready tomorrow, can you email it to me? I just want to double check it |
| Fat-Zer | yes i can... btw everething will be in the repository... |
| MobileTurkey | oh cool |
| MobileTurkey | that makes it easy |
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| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: nm-applet is quite good |
| Xu_R | MobileTurkey: it is - so it works for us too :P |
| MobileTurkey | no need to maintain a huge application |
| MobileTurkey | i mean originally we had the entire workforce of KDE on the 3.5 series... imagine if we still did |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: you are a kickoff guy right? |
| Xu_R | yea. |
| MobileTurkey | I have it working almost perfectly :) |
| MobileTurkey | with the default button as well |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: should close off a few bugs related to kickoff i |
| Xu_R | awesome :D |
| MobileTurkey | yep |
| MobileTurkey | only problem is that it is popping up in the wrong spot now |
| MobileTurkey | I can't get it working |
| MobileTurkey | and I don't really want to send it off without that |
| MobileTurkey | but I have been at it for hours |
| MobileTurkey | I need tim, but he is way bogged down |
| MobileTurkey | I dunno |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 548 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=548 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, "Unsupported Platform" |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 542 as a duplicate of bug 105. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=542 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Adding KDE3 kiosktool to TDE |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=105 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, UNCONFIRMED, add kiosktool |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 105 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R: Well, I've fixed up gtk-qt-engine as best as I can given the limitations inherent in GTK 2.x |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 232 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=232 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, dpms forced on by kde3, won't stay off |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Resolution on bug 103 from FIXED to INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=103 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Weird looking characters on power off |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 473 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=473 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, konqueror ca cert problems |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 549 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=549 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, knetworkmanager needs rewrite for network-manager API 0.9 and higher |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 543 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=543 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, ktorrent string errors |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: saw you pushed a bunch of fixes for gtk |
| MutantTurkey | did you fix the firefox buttons dissappearing issue? we can close off bug 546 if you did |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=546 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Graphical Issue - gtk-qt-engine |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: still freaking stuck on this kickoff issue |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: my hal is broken for some reason |
| MutantTurkey | maybe a change in the package? |
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| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: hey! |
| Fat-Zer | i'm ready with kdeartwork-cmake |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: don't know your mail so send to ml |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| MutantTurkey | sorry |
| MutantTurkey | was letting my little sister watch a video before bedtime |
| MutantTurkey | parents are away in paris so I am basically stuck babysitting her and my senile grandmother who is supposed to take care of her for the week. |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: did you send it in? |
| Fat-Zer | yes |
| Fat-Zer | developer mail list is pre-moderated... isn't it? |
| MutantTurkey | cool I see it |
| MutantTurkey | meaning? |
| MutantTurkey | it is not moderated. |
| Fat-Zer | i've seen that somewhere... |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: does the BUILD_ALL option work? |
| Fat-Zer | yes |
| MutantTurkey | sweet |
| MutantTurkey | i love git so much more than svn |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to loo kthrough all files |
| Fat-Zer | i haven't used svn a lot to say such things... but i like git too |
| MutantTurkey | its much faster |
| MutantTurkey | okay one thing that I see, that we havent used before is the target_SRCES thing but it's probably okay |
| Fat-Zer | there it is? it's probably a typo... |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | I mean the fact that you use ${target}_SRCES |
| MutantTurkey | but inconsistantly |
| MutantTurkey | in SOURCES |
| MutantTurkey | either have them all like that or none I say |
| Fat-Zer | i used {}_SRCS and {}_SOURCES in one module... |
| MutantTurkey | consistancy is key |
| MutantTurkey | samelian was a real style nazi, but I am just looking out for maintainability |
| Fat-Zer | ok... I'll remove the _SOURCES =) |
| MutantTurkey | I say stop using the whole {}_SRCS thing, because we don't use it in any other modules |
| MutantTurkey | I want to keep it simple across the board |
| MutantTurkey | I don't see much advantage for it |
| MutantTurkey | thoughts? |
| Fat-Zer | you used it in kdebase... |
| MutantTurkey | did we? |
| MutantTurkey | okay then I misspoke. seems we are inconsistant :P |
| MutantTurkey | then stick withhte _SRCS and do with out the _SOURCES |
| MutantTurkey | you were right :) |
| Fat-Zer | eg in konqueror/CMakeList.txt |
| MutantTurkey | anywhere else? |
| MutantTurkey | oh yeah quite a few places |
| MutantTurkey | okay well carry on! |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: other than that it looks very well done |
| Fat-Zer | thanks )) |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| MutantTurkey | now don't tire.... only a few hundred more Cmake lists till all of trinity is done :P |
| Fat-Zer | great news =))) |
| MutantTurkey | well this will make it in for the release |
| Fat-Zer | one more about cmake: before relese we really need to make something with new commits to kdebase. |
| Fat-Zer | it still uses add_subdirectory() for several modules. |
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| kb9vqf | Xu_R MutantTurkey: release is coming up fast...code freeze will likely go into effect this weekend |
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| KingSphinx | This originally had the entire workforce behind KDE 3.5? Or was that referring back to when this was KDE's baby? |
| kb9vqf | back when this was KDE e.V.'s baby |
| kb9vqf | that was many years ago now (gosh, it's really been that long?!? ;-)) |
| kb9vqf | no, KDE e.V. dropped the KDE3.5 style like a hot potato as fast as they possibly could |
| kb9vqf | they are all about tablets and such now :-/ |
| KingSphinx | To be fair, it's still possible to set up a "traditional" desktop with Plasma, and 4.7's finally ironed out most of the annoying bugs (no more random desktop crashes... except when shutting down, oddly enough) |
| kb9vqf | yes, but for how long, and it's still a far cry from a "native" traditional desktop |
| kb9vqf | you hit the limits of their box around the desktop model pretty quick (e.g. what use do the RMB and MMB have on KDE4 really?) |
| kb9vqf | RMB = right mouse button |
| KingSphinx | Still more choice than GNOME Shell though. :/ |
| kb9vqf | and I still hate having to wade through what are essentially multi-level modal dialogs masquerading as "programs" |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | of course |
| kb9vqf | but while medeocre compared to bad is relatively good, it's still not great... |
| kb9vqf | I guess that's my complaint about the latest versions of KDE4: it's a mediocre desktop at best |
| kb9vqf | Windows and Mac have it hands down |
| kb9vqf | BTW release is coming up soon...test the nightly builds and report any critical bugs ASAP! |
| kb9vqf | *very soon |
| KingSphinx | Do nighlies automatically upgrade to the final release or do they keep going on their own release channel? |
| KingSphinx | bleh, *nightlies |
| kb9vqf | no, you will have to manually switch your /etc/apt/sources.list to the release channel |
| kb9vqf | otherwise you'll keep pulling nightlies, which will grow unstable rather rapidly into the next release cycle for obvious reasons |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: yessir |
| KingSphinx | Does 3.5.13 really move everything to the Trinity namespace? (i.e. using .trinity instead of .kde3 for user stuff) |
| MutantTurkey | I need to get this kickoff patch |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also hal broke randomly for me. I don't really know what's up except for kpower save doesn't work |
| kb9vqf | it moves a lot, but not all (e.g. we still use libkdecore.so, etc.)( |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: HAL breaks sometimes like that--try purging all of HAL and reinstalling it |
| kb9vqf | that usually fixes the problem |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| kb9vqf | and yes it's related to upgrades |
| MutantTurkey | also started transferring stuff over |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/DeveloperTutorial |
| KingSphinx | Would renaming my .kde3 folder help or would I just lose everything settings-related? (sorry for the questions, I'm just curious) |
| kb9vqf | KingSphinx: Yes you need to rename it--if you don't then Trinity will on first login |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Good--just remember to change the links ;-) |
| kb9vqf | and get the kickoff patch in soon--I want to put in the code freeze ASAP |
| MutantTurkey | I am having trouble |
| MutantTurkey | I would like to enlist your help |
| MutantTurkey | I can send in stuff tomorrow, everything works except that it pops up in the wrong spot |
| MutantTurkey | I tracked it down to a function but I don't know why it works for the original panel and not the new one |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Sorry, don't have much time with the release coming up, and besides as I memo-ed you the Kickoff code is a nasty piece of work |
| kb9vqf | I don't want to touch it with a 10 foot pole :-P |
| MutantTurkey | Ok |
| MutantTurkey | we might just have to wait on it th |
| MutantTurkey | then' |
| MutantTurkey | at least the patch to keep it from freezing should be in |
| KingSphinx | I always get Kickoff and Kicker confused @.@ |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | kickoff is the OpenSUSE horrid thing |
| KingSphinx | The Creature From the KDE4 Lagoon? :P |
| MutantTurkey | isn't kickoff from kde4 originally? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: the "repositories" that Ilya "maintains" are filthy layers of patches and hacks |
| MutantTurkey | I checked it out |
| kb9vqf | yes, I know |
| MutantTurkey | one thing I did see though |
| MutantTurkey | they have a kio module that provides sysinfo:/ |
| kb9vqf | might be worth looking into |
| MutantTurkey | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=58704 |
| kb9vqf | file a needs-packaging bug |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | seems like we are keeping on top of bugs recently :D |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also with your gtk fixes, can I close off bug 546? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=546 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Graphical Issue - gtk-qt-engine |
| kb9vqf | Have you tried it? |
| kb9vqf | If it works then close the bug |
| MutantTurkey | it's the tab bar problems |
| MutantTurkey | I'll ask him to updated and retry |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: so for the release, when are we going to code freeze |
| MutantTurkey | timeline? |
| kb9vqf | code freeze is probably this weekend |
| kb9vqf | then my build farm has to catch up and we need to write release notes |
| kb9vqf | respin livecds, etc. |
| kb9vqf | still on target for a release Nov. 1st |
| kb9vqf | oneiric won't have LibreOffice built on release date, but that's a third party app anyway that always sucks down WAAAAY too much of my time :-P |
| KingSphinx | Meh, I already have LibreOffice installed, so no loss for me. |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: okay. |
| kb9vqf | well, you will lose your TDE integration if it gets updated from the official Ubuntu repositories |
| MutantTurkey | as for the release, are you making tarballs or what? |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | so on that I will make arch packages |
| MutantTurkey | (hopefully) |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | as soon as code freeze happens all packagers should start building final binaries |
| MutantTurkey | and then Nov 1st, we start commiting patches again? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | first we migrate to GIT |
| kb9vqf | that entails quite a bit of work unfortunately |
| kb9vqf | including repairs to the automatic process that run here to build the patch list, nightly builds, etc. |
| kb9vqf | *processes |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | I have worked out more thoughts on tha |
| MutantTurkey | the way xfce does it is well done |
| MutantTurkey | I think you can "group" repositories with git in a frontend. |
| MutantTurkey | but a seperate repository for kdebase, kdeaddons, kdelibs, is in order |
| kb9vqf | the more complexity to the repository, the longer our downtime... |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | but one giant tree won't work |
| MutantTurkey | because git you cannot do git clone address/subdir/subdir |
| MutantTurkey | because of the internal hashing and checking system |
| MutantTurkey | so you would at the very least need it for kdelibs, kdebase, the basics |
| * kb9vqf understands | |
| MutantTurkey | not sure about applications |
| kb9vqf | oh ick |
| kb9vqf | applications |
| MutantTurkey | what to do? |
| kb9vqf | this is where I start to wonder if GIT is such a good idea |
| kb9vqf | :-P |
| kb9vqf | I refuse to have a separate repository for each app |
| kb9vqf | I'll have to think about this I guess |
| kb9vqf | Either way expect sigificant downtime for the code repositories after release |
| kb9vqf | (this won't affect existing GIT repositories or any other services BTW) |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | there are quite a few advantages to git i think though |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also there is a thing called submodules |
| kb9vqf | yes, I know, but the big disadvantage is the mandatory repository checkout size |
| MutantTurkey | I have to look into it |
| kb9vqf | look into it please :) |
| kb9vqf | and let me know |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| kb9vqf | also I need to know how I'm going to migrate all the SVN changelog info to GIT |
| kb9vqf | we don't want to lose that |
| kb9vqf | but first get the kickoff patch where you need it |
| kb9vqf | and look into gtk-qt-engine for GTK3 while you are at it |
| MutantTurkey | I have been stuck on this kickoff thing for days. |
| MutantTurkey | literally frying my brains |
| MutantTurkey | I feel like its so obvious that I am choking. |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I am going to sleep. looks like submodules or trees are the way to go |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I got it |
| MutantTurkey | http://gitslave.sourceforge.net/gits-man-page.html |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 550 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=550 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdeartwork/wallpapers desktop-files translations are broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 551 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=551 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, some desktop files translations are broken |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: can you explain in couple of words what is tqt3integration in kdebase and what modules are using it? |
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| Raevyn | Hello! So has anyone tried installing Trinity.. the DVD iso I mean, and right after it goes past the portion where it displays "Kubuntu KDE3/Trinity it just freezes? |
| MutantTurkey | Raevyn: we are going to have a new on out by Nov 1st |
| MutantTurkey | if you want to wait and get the latest. |
| Raevyn | Oh well yea i can wait. I just tried it standalone today and it hickuped that way. It works fine in the virtual machine though thats why it confused me |
| MutantTurkey | LiveCDs have always been sort of tricky for me. |
| * Raevyn nods | |
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| Borg^Queen | hello |
| Fat-Zer | hello... |
| Borg^Queen | hi Fats |
| Fat-Zer | that was a nice talk =) |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| Borg^Queen | I feel I know you better |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: when are we freezing the code? |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I haven't made any progress on gtk3 at all. I am still stuck on kicker and I don't want to give up when I am one function working away |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: also the solution: http://gitslave.sourceforge.net/ |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: I think we should add a status flag on the bug tracker. one that has "PATCH UPLOADED" or similar. so that we can easily see if a patch as been uploaded |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 552 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=552 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, krfb: amd64 krfb won't accept correct password due to word size issue |
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| Mephisto__ | hi! |
| Mephisto__ | anyone alive? |
| Mephisto__ | Three questions: |
| Mephisto__ | 1) why does Konqueror crash in attempt to access any webpage at all bringing some weird error, 2) Why does KDE log off when i choose 800x600 resolution specifically and not any other one, 3) Why doesn't my password work for the root directory in Trinity? Like it's been changed or something. Thank you. |
| Mephisto__ | Trinity 3.5.12 installed on Debian 6.0.3 Squeeze-Gnome. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 552 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=552 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, krfb: amd64 krfb won't accept correct password due to word size issue |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 422 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=422 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, krfb: Double free in xupdatescanner.cc |
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| KingSphinx | Bleh, got the Trinity fever again. Actually managed to get the window style and whatnot configured like Trinity, except for Plasma itself (though that's for obvious reasons). |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: ping |
| KingSphinx | Not to sound like a nag or anything, but is that Kickoff bug or whatever still not fixed? |
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| MutantTurkey | . |
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| aquarius_ | hello? |
| aquarius_ | anyone there? |
| MutantTurkey | hey! |
| MutantTurkey | I am :) |
| aquarius_ | hi hi |
| aquarius_ | are you from Trinity crew? :) |
| MutantTurkey | yes thats me :P |
| aquarius_ | so nice to know |
| aquarius_ | have a few questions here |
| MutantTurkey | why whats up? |
| MutantTurkey | cool cool |
| aquarius_ | i really do appreciate that project, kde3.5 looks so classic |
| aquarius_ | even though i'm new to linux, but i find it cool. |
| MutantTurkey | :) you have tim to thank for that. He's the one who keeps the whole rig running |
| MutantTurkey | aquarius_: how long have you been using linux? |
| aquarius_ | well, for about one week i guess :) |
| MutantTurkey | wow so very new |
| aquarius_ | but i've already got along with it.. |
| aquarius_ | yep |
| MutantTurkey | very very :P |
| aquarius_ | indeed :) |
| MutantTurkey | how did you hear of trinity? |
| aquarius_ | well... i was looking for that original linux looks :) |
| aquarius_ | and then i realized that it's been cancelled and got a new cover in KDE4 |
| aquarius_ | but somehow i discovered Trinity later |
| aquarius_ | nobody told me about it... but i can't remember how i got onto it |
| MutantTurkey | kde4 blech |
| aquarius_ | well.. its not customizable... |
| aquarius_ | i mean... there's something about it that i didn't like |
| MutantTurkey | I don't like it much. |
| MutantTurkey | at all. |
| aquarius_ | me neither |
| aquarius_ | you know what.... your java plugin works unlike the one for gnome. Well... i'm using Debian :) |
| aquarius_ | the other one i just couldn't get to work! |
| MutantTurkey | debian is quite nice |
| aquarius_ | yeah, i like it |
| MutantTurkey | It's good |
| aquarius_ | but i have a couple of issues with kde... though hopefully solvable ones |
| MutantTurkey | with trinity?\ |
| aquarius_ | Yep. tell me.. why does it bring me to login screen every time i try to change resolution? And strangely if i pick a lower one |
| aquarius_ | i need 800x600 |
| aquarius_ | and to use that resolution i have to logon to Gnome first and then to log off and get onto KDE |
| aquarius_ | that way it works |
| aquarius_ | but yet it doesn't save it! |
| aquarius_ | so next time i restart it makes it high again, 1920x.... |
| aquarius_ | it puts it to maximum |
| MutantTurkey | what login screen are you using? |
| MutantTurkey | kdm or gdm? |
| aquarius_ | Trinity |
| aquarius_ | kdm |
| MutantTurkey | kdm then |
| aquarius_ | yeah. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | well it's probably something funky with your display driver and xorg config |
| aquarius_ | hmm..... |
| MutantTurkey | are you running the SVN or 3.5.12? |
| aquarius_ | erm... what's that? |
| aquarius_ | and how can i find out? |
| aquarius_ | ah.... |
| MutantTurkey | where did you install it from? |
| aquarius_ | from your website |
| aquarius_ | the way it was shown there |
| aquarius_ | from terminal |
| MutantTurkey | ok (sorry I have to look0 |
| aquarius_ | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php |
| aquarius_ | from here |
| aquarius_ | i just followed the instruction |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | can you do this for me? |
| MutantTurkey | open up the menu, open up your system settings. there should be something that says "help" in the menu bar of the window |
| aquarius_ | sure |
| MutantTurkey | click on "about trinity" |
| MutantTurkey | that'll say what version |
| aquarius_ | 3.5.12 |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | so basically you are running the stable version we have 3.5.13 |
| aquarius_ | oh really |
| MutantTurkey | we are about a week and a half from the release of 3.5.13 |
| aquarius_ | cool! |
| aquarius_ | that's so nice |
| MutantTurkey | it's gonna be pretty sweet |
| aquarius_ | i really wanna keep only to Trinity KDE |
| MutantTurkey | we actually have a dialog that will let you configure your display settings nicely |
| aquarius_ | you mean i definitely should look forward to it? :) |
| MutantTurkey | yes! it's gonna be good |
| aquarius_ | it's a deal :) |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | you _could_ technically install the SVN version now if you wanted |
| aquarius_ | so far no serious probs detected.... perhaps only Konqueror that brings up some weird error. But actually in KDE 4.4 it brings up the same error, so i didn't count that... i read a bit about it on forums and it seems that there are many reason that might prevent this browser from functioning normally... |
| aquarius_ | what's SVN? Enlighten me please |
| MutantTurkey | SVN is just what we use to help organize our code |
| MutantTurkey | it's basically a code management tool |
| aquarius_ | surething... |
| MutantTurkey | and that is where we put all the new code in. |
| aquarius_ | let me do it |
| MutantTurkey | think of it as "nightly builds" |
| aquarius_ | wow.. i was just about to tell you that Synaptic doesn't work... but it works now |
| aquarius_ | somehow |
| aquarius_ | it didn't before |
| MutantTurkey | weird :| |
| aquarius_ | yep... |
| MutantTurkey | I don't use syanptic |
| MutantTurkey | I use kpackage |
| MutantTurkey | they are both good though |
| aquarius_ | yeah, i can use even aptitude |
| MutantTurkey | aquarius_: I actually have to split. it's getting late and I need to do some stuff |
| aquarius_ | but it's just faster with synaptic.. i've got used to it already having messed with gnome a bit :) |
| aquarius_ | ohhh.... |
| MutantTurkey | sorry :[ |
| MutantTurkey | but I'll see you around I am sure. :) |
| aquarius_ | it's ok mate... i'll be coming around since we've made contact |
| MutantTurkey | good night |
| aquarius_ | sure, night-night :) |
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| KingSphinx | ...and out of boredom, I'm trying to port Trinity's default QtCurve theme to KDE 4. It's slow going, as you might imagine... |
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| KingSphinx | Gah, I feel dumb. Turns out there's an "Export theme" option... makes my notes/documaentation on the settings near-useless. |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: hey about kickoff |
| MutantTurkey | i noticed you posted earlier |
| MutantTurkey | I am making progress fixing it. |
| MutantTurkey | It is taking more time than I expected however. |
| MutantTurkey | I have it working as a regular button, but a I am still having trouble making it popup correctly in the right spot. |
| KingSphinx | I wouldn't really know since I don't use Kickoff in Trinity (it's a fine menu for KDE 4, and nothing more), sorry |
| MutantTurkey | i thought you asked about progress ealrier? |
| KingSphinx | Yeah, it's just that I don't really know what I could do to help. IMO, it sounds like something similar to a padding issue, but that's the only real thing I can give. |
| MutantTurkey | I mean i've tracked it down to what it wrong |
| MutantTurkey | but I don't know C++ well enough to fix it |
| MutantTurkey | still wroking it out |
| KingSphinx | Other than that, I don't really know what to say. And BTW, the Trinity QtCurve theme ports over rather nicely to KDE 4 :) |
| MutantTurkey | good! :) |
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| KingSphinx | (Though of course, this is no substitute to actually using Trinity :P) |
| MutantTurkey | :{ |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| MutantTurkey | night |
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| KingSphinx | Since I have QtCurve installed in KDE 4 already, would installing Trinity conflict with the current version installed or does the whole "install in /opt" thing bypass any conflicts? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 553 filed by werner@hoernerfranzracing.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=553 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, quanta-trinity is unusable |
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| Z_God | is it normal the current nightly doesn't install at all on oneiric? |
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| aquarius_ | hi :) |
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| kb9vqf | Z_God: No |
| kb9vqf | what is the error? |
| Z_God | I had problems with packages like perl-suid |
| kb9vqf | can you post the full output? |
| kb9vqf | everything builds on oneiric at this point...but installation was not teste |
| kb9vqf | *tested |
| Z_God | ok, sec, I will have to log on to my friend's notebook |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| * kb9vqf has no oneiric test system at this point | |
| Z_God | ok, I'll put it in a pastebin |
| Z_God | http://pastebin.com/C0UPUF9Y |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: Looks like libglut3 was removed in oneiric |
| kb9vqf | ...and replaced with freeglut3 |
| Z_God | also perl-suid |
| kb9vqf | is there a replacement for that? |
| * kb9vqf goes to check | |
| kb9vqf | (technically these packages aren't *dependencies* for Trinity to work, but the metapackage tries to pull in handy programs when it installs Trinity |
| Z_God | they are depends now it seem though, not recommends |
| kb9vqf | yes, I know, that's how Ubuntu did it originally and that's how I kept it :-P |
| Z_God | I don't know exactly how dpkg deals with missing recommends deps though |
| Z_God | ok |
| kb9vqf | it ignores them as it should |
| * kb9vqf thinks Ubuntu messed up again in their packaging | |
| kb9vqf | oh well :0 |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Z_God | you think you can solve it? |
| kb9vqf | perl-suid is completely gone |
| kb9vqf | that will probably affect a handful of control center modules (possibly) |
| kb9vqf | though they are obscure |
| kb9vqf | this is why I am activly trying to get rid of the remaining perl modules in Trinity (replacing them with C/C++ apps) |
| kb9vqf | perl changes too often and is relatively slow/buggy |
| Z_God | ok |
| kb9vqf | technically it's the add-on modules that are the problem, but straight perl isn't much use in a GUI |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Z_God | I wonder if perl-suid couldn't just be ported to the newer perl though |
| Z_God | it would seem the quickest fix |
| kb9vqf | oh, probably, but I'd rather spend my time replacing the few remaining perl modules with C/C++ ones |
| kb9vqf | the big one is already done (monitor configuration) |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | and we have a bunch of bugs to fix still ;-) |
| Z_God | do you think kmozilla would already be packaged for a release? |
| kb9vqf | not 3.5.13 |
| kb9vqf | the next one probably |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.13 comes out real quick now |
| Z_God | I hope I can get the signals the other way around to work |
| Z_God | as you saw, mozilla->konq is working |
| Z_God | but there are some issues with konq->mozilla |
| kb9vqf | someone with your knowlege level could probably start working on some of the bugs in our bug tracker... (hint hint) :)) |
| Z_God | I wish I had time |
| kb9vqf | yeah, I know |
| kb9vqf | I have the same problem |
| Z_God | the problem is that I have to spend quite a lot of time just reading the code |
| Z_God | I now know the structure of kmozilla |
| Z_God | so I know a bit where to look for things |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| kb9vqf | well, keep working on it then |
| kb9vqf | would be nice to have it in the next release |
| Z_God | I want to get those signals working so that back & forward can work |
| kb9vqf | I'm going to upload a new metapackage shortly with those dependencies repaired |
| Z_God | and then hopefully fix the bugs |
| Z_God | and only after that look at extra things like a context menu |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| kb9vqf | sounds good to me |
| Z_God | but the current code is already better than what SUSE shipped back in the day :) |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | It's actually active and builds, but I don't ship a Debian package (yet) |
| kb9vqf | hmmm |
| * kb9vqf wonders how much work that would be | |
| * kb9vqf also wonders when the build is going to break because of Firefox | |
| Z_God | I guess it never shipped in debian before, so there are no old scripts |
| Z_God | actually I tested it with natty |
| Z_God | against xulrunner-2.0 it compiles, but it doesn't link due to missing symbols |
| kb9vqf | right--it shouldn't be that hard, but I need to know ALL the files that are needed to make it run (.desktop files, .so files, etc.) |
| Z_God | against xulrunner-1.9.2 it fully works in natty |
| Z_God | so they removed some symbols from libxul which break it |
| Z_God | I wonder if we could indeed move this part to our own library or just copy the code to kmozilla and let it use the symbols that are still there |
| Z_God | the files needed to make it work are all installed with make install |
| Z_God | on the relevant dirs |
| Z_God | I don't know if you had a chance to test it yourself? |
| kb9vqf | no I have not I'm afraid |
| Z_God | one issue with the configure script btw. it tries to look for both gtk 1.2 and gtk 2.0 now |
| kb9vqf | pretty busy here trying to get as many bugs fixed as possible before the release :-/ |
| Z_God | if you'd have the headers of both installed, things could break |
| kb9vqf | it shouldn't break, because the flags for 1.2 and 2.0 are stored in different variables |
| Z_God | but the headers overlap |
| Z_God | both have things like gtk/gtk.h |
| Z_God | I think it breaks when both are in the include path |
| kb9vqf | yes, and if any Makefile.am file tries to include both header flag variables that is a Very Big Error |
| kb9vqf | such problems should be fixed immediately :) |
| Z_God | ah ok |
| kb9vqf | suid-perl is wanted by the Trinity file sharing module |
| kb9vqf | I'm moving that to recommends as I did with Squeeze |
| kb9vqf | I don't think it majorly breaks anything important |
| kb9vqf | BTW if you can tell me which files are installed by the mozilla plugin I can throw together a quickie Debian package... ;_0 |
| kb9vqf | :-) |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: ^^^^ Just pastebin the results of "make install" from your mozilla plugin directory |
| kb9vqf | that's all I need |
| Z_God | hmm, should be doable |
| Z_God | there will be 3-4 though |
| Z_God | because of dcopc and the separate xpart libs |
| kb9vqf | just pastebin the output; for now I'll throw it all into one package |
| kb9vqf | kde-bindings-extras or similar :) |
| kb9vqf | *tde-bindings-extras rather |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: http://pastebin.com/6AVEtyMf :) |
| kb9vqf | ok, thanks |
| * kb9vqf goes to throw something together | |
| Z_God | great :) |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: I don't think I can compile this on the build system at this late of a date due to unknown dependencies, but I have added at least the .install file for future use |
| Z_God | yeah I can imagine it is a bit tricky with xulrunner & so on |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | if I had a couple weeks before release then I'd try it |
| Z_God | also I think if we really want to package it properly, there should be a built-in solution for the environment variable issues |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | so I'm going to hold off |
| kb9vqf | the skeleton of the package is there |
| kb9vqf | it just needs to be activate ;-) |
| kb9vqf | *activated |
| kb9vqf | BTW the packaging is in GIT hash b54509d |
| Z_God | I'll be looking forward to it :) |
| kb9vqf | you just need to uncomment the lines in tde-xparts-extras-trinity.install and rebuild |
| Z_God | ok, maybe I will test it when some things work better |
| kb9vqf | tde-xparts-extras-trinity is the package name I gave all the xparts stuff |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| Z_God | I first need to get through the gsignals stuff |
| kb9vqf | good luck :) |
| Z_God | but not sure when I'll have time |
| Z_God | need to know about 500-600 words of polish within 5 weeks... |
| Z_God | same with russian, but luckily I already know quite a few |
| Z_God | really looking forward to 3.5.13 though, I really hope this release will hit multiple news sites & attract attention to the project :) |
| aquarius_ | me too :) |
| aquarius_ | long live Trinity |
| * kb9vqf hopes so as well | |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 347 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=347 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok Sym Links Incorrect |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 353 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=353 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KOffice will not build with GraphicsMagick 1.3.12 or 1.2.10 installed |
| * Z_God is off to bed | |
| Z_God | good night (day) all! |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 391 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=391 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, subversion kwallet kde3 integration for 1.6 (taht only use kde4) for debian realy linux |
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| aquarius_ | can anyone tell me how to setup default resolution? |
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| aquarius_ | everytime i logon to kde it sets up the maximum resolution possible for my monitor |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: about cmake in the kdebase... will it be fixed before release? |
| aquarius_ | and if i try to change it using screen resize in the tray it just brings me back to login screen |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 409 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=409 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, disabling smooth scroll for html part |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: What is broken about it? |
| kb9vqf | aquarius_: What graphics card do you use? |
| aquarius_ | the only way for me to get 800x600 is by loging in to Gnome and then to end the session without restarting and loging onto KDE. It's fine that way. But next time i restart it's all back again |
| aquarius_ | Radeon HD4200 integrated |
| Fat-Zer | as i wrote before tsak and krootbacking are buildet everytime... |
| Fat-Zer | and there is no conditional options for it |
| kb9vqf | Fat-Zer: Do you have a patch? |
| kb9vqf | aquarius_: Trinity does have the ability to set a default resolution, but if Xorg is crashing on XRandR access (bringing you back to the login screen) then you may not want to use it |
| kb9vqf | I would suggest setting up the proprietary fglrx drivers, then trying again |
| aquarius_ | hm... |
| aquarius_ | how do i do that? |
| aquarius_ | tell me please. |
| kb9vqf | I think there is a guide online--search for fglrx and ubuntu |
| aquarius_ | cause i didn't install any additional drivers.. |
| aquarius_ | i'm on Debian |
| Fat-Zer | i sended it to the ML several weeks ago. but now it needs one more condition for tqtinterface... |
| kb9vqf | ok, can you update it and re-send? |
| Fat-Zer | *tqt3integration |
| Fat-Zer | yes... |
| * kb9vqf is busy stamping out fires before code freeze :)) | |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 441 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| aquarius_ | but listen, it works with the resolution needed. but only not in a normal way./ i have to step over from Gnome to KDE instantly to get my desired resolution |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=441 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, TDE's kdmrc defaults prevent kdm-trinity from working |
| aquarius_ | i just want to make it stay there |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| kb9vqf | You have to use the Gnome tool to set your resolution? |
| aquarius_ | exactly |
| aquarius_ | and it works that way |
| kb9vqf | the Gnome tool is more limited, and probably does not make the XRandR call that is crashing your driver |
| kb9vqf | this is an Xorg bug, not a Trinity one |
| kb9vqf | XRandR calls should never be able to crash Xorg |
| aquarius_ | maybe, but when i log out Gnome and get onto KDE at once it remains the same as in Gnome |
| kb9vqf | yes, it will |
| aquarius_ | drats... |
| kb9vqf | but you need to set that on startup, and the Trinity tools use XRandR extensively to do so |
| kb9vqf | (XRandR is a standard Xorg interface) |
| kb9vqf | Which version of Ubuntu are you using? |
| aquarius_ | Again: Debian |
| aquarius_ | Squeeze |
| aquarius_ | amd64 |
| kb9vqf | I wasn't here when you said that, sorry ;-) |
| kb9vqf | as I said I'm busy with getting the release in order |
| kb9vqf | Are you using the nightly builds or the 3.5.12 release? |
| aquarius_ | it's ok |
| aquarius_ | 3.5.12 |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: sended |
| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: you are doing great work! |
| Fat-Zer | =) |
| aquarius_ | indeed) |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 550 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=550 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdeartwork/wallpapers desktop-files translations are broken |
| Fat-Zer | btw: can you apply patches from bug #550 and #551 there are some translation fixes... |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=550 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdeartwork/wallpapers desktop-files translations are broken |
| Fat-Zer | t om))) |
| Fat-Zer | great=) |
| kb9vqf | aquarius_: If you can't (or don't want to) install fglrx then you can try waiting for the 3.5.13 release |
| kb9vqf | It *might* fix your problem |
| kb9vqf | then again it might make it worse |
| kb9vqf | it is hard to tell with Xorg bugs |
| aquarius_ | i just tried to install it |
| aquarius_ | but i guess it was just re-installed |
| aquarius_ | i've had it all this time.. not sure |
| aquarius_ | but thanks |
| aquarius_ | and of course, i'm looking forward to any updates from you guys |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 551 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=551 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, some desktop files translations are broken |
| kb9vqf | aquarius_: So you were using fglrx all this time? |
| aquarius_ | i guess so! |
| kb9vqf | That makes sense--it can be quite buggy |
| kb9vqf | Use the built-in tool to configure it |
| kb9vqf | don't use any of the desktop tools |
| kb9vqf | just because you got lucky with Gnome does not mean any other desktop's tools will work with that driver |
| aquarius_ | i understand/ |
| kb9vqf | Trinity included ;-) |
| aquarius_ | ok.. how do i configure it? Where can i find it& |
| kb9vqf | on my systems it's the ATI Catalyst Control Center |
| aquarius_ | hm... |
| kb9vqf | Look under System |
| aquarius_ | ok. |
| kb9vqf | with proprietary Xorg drivers it's always best to use their own configuration tools--that goes for nVidia as well ;-) |
| kb9vqf | Intel however is quite well supported by open-source drivers and tools |
| kb9vqf | and Debian also tends to lag behind where proprietary software is concerned |
| aquarius_ | hm.... weird, but i see nothing that sounds like ATI Catalyst Control Center here... |
| aquarius_ | ah |
| aquarius_ | no! |
| aquarius_ | actually i never had it installed |
| aquarius_ | it was a different driver named... |
| aquarius_ | xserver-xorg-video-radeon |
| aquarius_ | and i added fglrx, now it's there |
| kb9vqf | that is also quite buggy :-P |
| aquarius_ | there's two of them now... what should i do& |
| kb9vqf | Basically both drivers are buggy for ATI |
| aquarius_ | i see.. |
| kb9vqf | Google told me this: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| aquarius_ | ok... thanks |
| kb9vqf | just use kdm-trinity instead of kdm or gnome3 |
| aquarius_ | yeah.. i have no control package... |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| aquarius_ | well that's what i do |
| aquarius_ | it's only kdm-trinity now |
| kb9vqf | Personally I highly recommend Intel and nVidia |
| kb9vqf | ATI has been a problem as long as I have been using Linux |
| kb9vqf | and continues to be a problem even today |
| kb9vqf | I know some laptops only have ATI...but where you have a choice... :) |
| kb9vqf | Some work is being done to fix the ATI drivers, but I can guarantee that it is not in Debian Squeeze: http://blogs.gentoo.org/nightmorph/2011/05/13/howto-radeonhd-4550-gallium3d-ut2004/ |
| kb9vqf | Ubuntu Oneiric possibly, but that comes with its own set of problems |
| kb9vqf | Isn't Linux fun? ;-) |
| aquarius_ | i see... |
| aquarius_ | yeah.. hella fun... |
| aquarius_ | Joke of the day: |
| aquarius_ | Difference between Windows and Linux: First one you use, the latter is for messing around ;) |
| aquarius_ | but man... people seem to like it. |
| aquarius_ | that's the point of living |
| kb9vqf | Funny...I would have them reversed |
| kb9vqf | Linux is the one you use, Windows is the toy for playing games and watching movies |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| aquarius_ | anyways.. could the lack of propriatary drivers in turn be the cause of me not being able to adjust brightness and contrast in players? I mean nothing changes when i try to do that |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| aquarius_ | i see, thanks. |
| kb9vqf | np |
| aquarius_ | i guess people could have that reversed depending on which OS they're in love with ;) |
| aquarius_ | hm.... |
| aquarius_ | tell me one thing, why doesn't a new line (deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free) appear in Software Sources manager but in sources.list does? |
| kb9vqf | No idea, sorry |
| kb9vqf | That's Debian specific and I don't use Software Sources |
| aquarius_ | ok. i see |
| aquarius_ | well... i kinda get it, cause for non-free stuff you just use checkbox there... |
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| aquarius_ | it worked! |
| aquarius_ | thank you so much! |
| aquarius_ | now i can at least switch between modes! |
| aquarius_ | and the text in pure console is not tiny as it used to be |
| aquarius_ | now to check brightness and contrast controls... |
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| aquarius_ | how do i launch Control Center as super-user? |
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| Fat-Zer | kb9vqf: got some time? |
| kb9vqf | no, sorry |
| * kb9vqf will probably have to push the code freeeze out a couple of days in fact :-/ | |
| Fat-Zer | ok... |
| KingSphinx | The code freeze hasn't happened yet? |
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| pedro_ | how to change the language of trinity? |
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| pedro_ | how to change the language of trinity? |
| Fat-Zer | pedro_: in settings in kcontrol... |
| pedro_ | but as I install the Spanish language pack? |
| Fat-Zer | the package name should be kde-i18n-${LANG} |
| Fat-Zer | or something like that |
| Fat-Zer | i don't know exectly about debian/ubuntu package names |
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| pedro_ | thanks |
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| Zelator | erm... |
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| aquarius | i uninstalled ATI driver and now it doesn't start any desktop.. |
| aquarius | what do i do?.. |
| aquarius | all i have is console.. |
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| aquarius | hi MutantTurkey! |
| MutantTurkey | hey what's up |
| aquarius | look, i have a prob |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| aquarius | i installed ATI driver beside of the one that was installed by Debian... remember i told you that if i try to change resolution it brings me back to login screen? Well that driver solved that prob, BUT... it made some of my applications fonts tiny.. that was weird, so i decided to remove that driver for a while, and after i did it i couldn't logon any desktop anymore! |
| aquarius | all i have is console! |
| MutantTurkey | you should use the driver for your ATI card |
| aquarius | well that's what i did |
| MutantTurkey | small fonts is probably just trinity setting |
| aquarius | but it wasn't like that before.. |
| aquarius | oh well... |
| aquarius | anyways, it doesn't matter now, i wanna bring back ANY desktop |
| aquarius | i'm on windows now... |
| aquarius | maybe i could enlarge the font manually, but for a moment i thought that wasn't supposed to happen... |
| MutantTurkey | I mean it might just be whacky settings |
| MutantTurkey | it's easy to resize fonts |
| aquarius | yeah, i gotcha |
| aquarius | sure. |
| MutantTurkey | that might just do it |
| MutantTurkey | if theres still a problem, i'll be here |
| aquarius | but i thought it was some bug you know.. besides, kb9vqf told me before that ATI drivers for linux are still kinda cheesy.. |
| aquarius | sure, but could you help me to get onto any display manager now? All i have is console, i dunno what to do |
| aquarius | it happened because i removed the driver, but still i didn't remove the base one brought by initial Debian installation.. |
| MutantTurkey | they are kind cheese |
| MutantTurkey | do you have the xvesa one installled? |
| aquarius | no idea |
| aquarius | but don't think so |
| aquarius | by the way.. after i installed the driver i also felt like boxes were moving jerky... |
| aquarius | a bit |
| MutantTurkey | thats probably because the ATI module is a bit stinky |
| aquarius | but most importantly... i could switch between resolution modes... wheee. |
| aquarius | yep. |
| MutantTurkey | not much you can do |
| aquarius | i see.. |
| aquarius | ok.. let me try loging back on.. |
| aquarius | see you in a bit. |
| MutantTurkey | okay let me know how it goes |
| aquarius | sure. |
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| aquarius_ | hi |
| aquarius_ | i'm back |
| aquarius_ | but still tiny font |
| aquarius_ | and no, it's not trinity thing |
| aquarius_ | it's something about that driver |
| aquarius_ | damn... it took me a while to bring everything back |
| aquarius_ | actually i wasn't hoping that i'd do it |
| aquarius_ | but somehow i used aptitude and brought this driver back |
| aquarius_ | and desktop started |
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| aquarius_ | http://www.mail-archive.com/scientific-linux-users@listserv.fnal.gov/msg06174.html |
| aquarius_ | solved |
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| aquarius_ | ok.. i'm back here |
| aquarius_ | anyone? |
| Fat-Zer | i'm here but i don't know a lot about amd.ati video cards... |
| aquarius_ | well.. everything is ALMOST well.... even brightness/contrast adjustment works.. but... font issue still.. |
| aquarius_ | let's say.. i've used 96dpi thing... now microfont apps seems to have gotten back to normal, but those which were alright before that have become larger... |
| Fat-Zer | sorry... i'm really indefferent to fonts looks, so i've never adjusted them at all... |
| aquarius_ | well, they don't seem to bother you that much... |
| aquarius_ | as long as you can read them and they don't take the most space on your screen your fonts seem to be ok ;) |
| Fat-Zer | =) |
| Fat-Zer | i even can't advice any utility to set them except kcontrol... |
| aquarius_ | it's not the font that's the issue... |
| aquarius_ | before i installed fglrx driver everything was normal.. |
| aquarius_ | even if i enlarge font some of it gets normal but some even bigger than normal, you see... so either one way or another you get shit |
| aquarius_ | and so far i see no solution to that.... |
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| aquarius_ | fixed!! |
| Fat-Zer | where was he problem? |
| aquarius_ | and i did nothing.... just restarted... now i got my 800x600 forever with all the adjustments enabled and normal font!! |
| aquarius_ | i have no idea mate |
| aquarius_ | all i did was messing a bit with ATI Control Center, saved the settings... but it brought something else in... |
| aquarius_ | and now it's all back to normal |
| KingSphinx | 800x600? Can your monitor support any higher than that? |
| Fat-Zer | may be you just haven't restarted since last driver upgrade... |
| aquarius_ | sometimes you have to restart several times... just to make sure everything's been done |
| aquarius_ | KingSphinx, yes, but it's CRT and 1024x768 doesn't look nice on it. But i'm planning on changing it in the nearest future. |
| aquarius_ | Fat-Zer, maybe. |
| Fat-Zer | CRT is hell... |
| aquarius_ | whee..... now i've got a total package. uuahahahahah, it's ALIIIIVEE |
| aquarius_ | well.. probably there are some other surprises waiting for me |
| aquarius_ | i just haven't discovered them yet |
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| aquarius | anyone? |
| Fat-Zer | ? |
| aquarius | ah.. you still here |
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| aquarius | anyone there? |
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| aquarius | hi |
| aquarius | anyone alive? |
| aquarius | alright... tell me, how can i solve Konqueror issue? First of all, is there any way to fix flash video problem in Konqueror OR how can i make alternative browser default one? I mean.. i doesn't matter if i assign it or not, it still opens Konqueror from some applications with links and such |
| Z_God | aquarius: when you assign another browser as the default for text/html it should always use that one |
| aquarius | Z_God, well no, that's the problem. It keeps launching Konqueror if i click on links in skype for example, or other messengers.... |
| Z_God | it's probably a bug in those programs |
| Z_God | they probably use their own setting for launching a browser |
| aquarius | maybe. |
| Z_God | I use Psi+ here for IM and it works fine |
| aquarius | i use just Psi |
| aquarius | i'm on Debian |
| Z_God | it should work as well |
| Z_God | it doesn't? |
| aquarius | well no, it launches Konqueror too. But let me check once again to make sure.. |
| aquarius | ah |
| aquarius | now it works |
| aquarius | BUT.... |
| aquarius | yeah... from Psi everything works |
| aquarius | now... let's try skype again.. |
| Z_God | skype is evil :P |
| aquarius | well yeah, but i need it ;) |
| aquarius | hey... just another stupid question: is it any possible to make KDE3.5 task panel look like KDE3.O one? |
| Z_God | probably yes |
| aquarius | i WISH I COULD DO THAT... |
| aquarius | those app buttons are better |
| Z_God | change the theme to keramik? |
| aquarius | they really get pushed |
| aquarius | nah... still not that... |
| Z_God | hmm dunno then |
| aquarius | there's no such thing in settings to make it look like KDE3... |
| aquarius | the difference is not that big.. but there surely is... |
| aquarius | let me show you.. |
| Z_God | I know there is a difference |
| Z_God | but it's been a few years since I used 3.0 ;) |
| aquarius | yeah... i know.. |
| aquarius | but i like its task panel more... there was something in it... oh well. |
| Z_God | I liked the KDE 1.0 one |
| aquarius | hehe |
| aquarius | well.. it's too much old... |
| aquarius | but yeah, nice too |
| aquarius | http://www.netbsd.org/gallery/in-Action/jschauma-kde3.png |
| aquarius | here. |
| Z_God | it's th de 2.0 look |
| Z_God | the kde* |
| aquarius | yes, but it's 3. 2nd looked also a bit more different. |
| aquarius | but almost the same |
| aquarius | http://linuxbook.orbdesigns.com/ch12/images/btlb1203.jpg |
| aquarius | here's 2nd |
| aquarius | look at the buttons... they're really pushed |
| aquarius | gives nice impression |
| Z_God | try the highcolor classic style |
| aquarius | tried man... all of them... tabs look almost the same for any of those styles.. |
| aquarius | no big difference |
| aquarius | it's only the frame that changes... |
| Z_God | hmm ok |
| aquarius | but the rest is the same. It's KDE3.5 after all. |
| aquarius | so yeah, some things are a bit different here... |
| aquarius | hmm.. now links work in skype too |
| aquarius | they get opened in Chromium |
| aquarius | nice. |
| aquarius | weird.. why didn't it work before.. |
| aquarius | anyways, Trinity did a good job. |
| Z_God | maybe skype fixed the bug on their end |
| aquarius | nah.. don't think so. It's probably IceWeasel that refused to be run... |
| aquarius | i wonder if Trinity can make new themes for KDE3.5... to make it look like KDE3 or even 2... |
| Z_God | I also only tested it with chromium ;) |
| aquarius | yep, see |
| Z_God | you could probably forward port the old themes |
| aquarius | yep... |
| aquarius | that's a good idea |
| aquarius | i'll try when they're back here |
| Z_God | they? |
| aquarius | guys themselves |
| Z_God | you mean the trinity devs? |
| aquarius | yep |
| aquarius | arent they here? |
| Z_God | yep, but it's not really liked they can spend much time on this really |
| Z_God | but patches, especially when they do not affect core components are easily accepted |
| Z_God | likely* |
| aquarius | hm.. |
| Z_God | so if you're really interested in this, you would have to try to get it to work yourself & then send in a patch adding the theme as an extra theme to the current trinity tree |
| aquarius | i see. |
| Z_God | the developers are mainly working on core features |
| aquarius | well.. i really don't know how to do it. |
| Z_God | and bugfixes |
| aquarius | yeah, i understood. |
| Z_God | can you program a bit? |
| aquarius | not really..... i used to do some simple stuff in Basic.... |
| aquarius | but that's about it. |
| Z_God | ok, you would need to have some C/C++ knowledge for this I guess |
| aquarius | yeah... probably.. |
| Z_God | but first thing to do would be to install a system with the older KDE |
| Z_God | maybe in a VM |
| aquarius | if only i could find it at first! |
| Z_God | then you can easily check which themes are being used for what |
| Z_God | then you look at the source code in the KDE tree related to this theme |
| aquarius | it's hard to find old KDE |
| aquarius | dunno where to look |
| Z_God | what I did when I had to do the same ;) |
| Z_God | I just went through my pile of old discs |
| aquarius | well yeah, good idea, but i never used linux in the past actually :) So basically it's first time i'm on it. I've been using it for one week or so :) |
| Z_God | ah I see |
| Z_God | I do not have any discs here myself |
| Z_God | but I have them at my parents' house |
| aquarius | i bet it can be found somewhere in the web.. the thing is, ive tried already, but i didn't find anything... gotta search for it deeper. And secondly... how do i find just KDE3 separately from any linux OS? |
| Z_God | if you're really interested, I could make ISOs & send them |
| Z_God | separate KDE is on the KDE website |
| Z_God | but it's mostly source code |
| Z_God | and compiling that on a modern distro won't really work |
| aquarius | hm... |
| Z_God | the easiest way is to just run it in a VM |
| Z_God | I set up a SuSE 8.0 VM when I wanted to test things with kmozilla |
| aquarius | hm... |
| aquarius | well, i'll think on it mate |
| aquarius | i'd really like to contribute something to Trinity |
| aquarius | and i bet those themes would make it even more popular. |
| aquarius | i'm pretty sure |
| aquarius | basically it's just to change buttons man |
| aquarius | and to add a couple of frames |
| Z_God | hehe, if you know knew how many articles were written about KDE theming ;) |
| aquarius | oh really |
| Z_God | there was really a lot of criticism with keramik as the default theme in the older KDEs |
| Z_God | a lot of things were changed also due to that |
| aquarius | it's not very pretty actually.... toooo posh |
| Z_God | because keramik was considered 'too much' in some ways |
| aquarius | yep |
| aquarius | exactly |
| aquarius | over the top |
| Z_God | so in all areas, such things were removed |
| Z_God | also what you are talking about now |
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| aquarius | hi MutantTurkey ! |
| MutantTurkey | hey! |
| aquarius | i've solved all issues concerning video and such |
| MutantTurkey | how are you? |
| aquarius | it's all fine now :) |
| aquarius | now tiny font, nothing |
| MutantTurkey | excellent. how did you work it out? |
| aquarius | i dunno.. i just ran ATI Catalyst Center and saved the 800x600 mode |
| aquarius | now it starts always in 800x600 just like i wanted and no tiny fonyt |
| aquarius | brightness/contrast adjusment works too in players :) |
| aquarius | all fine |
| aquarius | by the way... i had to install the driver back in console through aptitude! |
| aquarius | remember i was saying that desktop doesn't launch? |
| aquarius | i had only console and i brought the driver back using only aptitude... i wasn't even sure if i could do it... |
| aquarius | but fortune was on my side |
| MutantTurkey | so now everything is oky? |
| MutantTurkey | you seem like a quick learner for only being a few weeks into linux! |
| aquarius | yep |
| aquarius | yeah, someone told me that already :) |
| aquarius | one linux user that has been on it since 2006 |
| aquarius | i consult him sometimes |
| MutantTurkey | I've been around for quite a while, but not too long |
| MutantTurkey | maybe since '07 |
| aquarius | listen.. we've been discussing here KDE2-3 themes... tell me, is it possible to port them to Trinity KDE? It implies everything, tab buttons on the taskbar, some other minor but probably known features of old KDE interfaces.... |
| MutantTurkey | kde 3.5 themes I am almost positive will work with trinity |
| MutantTurkey | you might have to recompile them but I think they are comptable |
| aquarius | KDE3.5? |
| aquarius | it's already there... no? |
| aquarius | i mean.. the desktop is just fine, but i wish i could use KDE3.0 or 2.0 desktops |
| MutantTurkey | the 3.5 themes should be compat with trinity |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| aquarius | they are! |
| MutantTurkey | "desktops?" |
| aquarius | well, interfaces... |
| aquarius | task bar mainly |
| MutantTurkey | interfaces? |
| MutantTurkey | oh :P |
| MutantTurkey | is the current one not acceptable? |
| aquarius | acceptable! |
| aquarius | i just wish buttons were a bit different, just like in 2-3 :) |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: aquarius has an old-school mood ;) |
| MutantTurkey | I am not familiar with how they used t obe |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: I am aware :P |
| aquarius | Z_God, yess :) |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: hey |
| aquarius | MutantTurkey, they looked almost the same, BUT.. |
| aquarius | a few minor distinctions |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | dunno |
| Z_God | I already suggested porting them as separate themes from the old version |
| aquarius | http://www.netbsd.org/gallery/in-Action/jschauma-kde3.png |
| Z_God | they would probably only need minor changes |
| aquarius | yep. I think so too! |
| aquarius | http://linuxbook.orbdesigns.com/ch12/images/btlb1203.jpg |
| aquarius | 2nd |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | they do look nice |
| aquarius | yep.. i do like the buttons.. they're really pushed, not just bolded.. |
| aquarius | i mean the effect was carried out nicely.. and overall so classic :) |
| aquarius | oh well.. it's just a question... but would be cool indeed |
| MutantTurkey | classic is good |
| Z_God | aquarius: if you could find the subversion revision in which this was changed, it would be a huge help |
| aquarius | i'll do my best if you tell me what Subversion revision is? |
| MutantTurkey | I am sure that we could add a patch |
| MutantTurkey | aquarius: remember I mentioned SVN? |
| aquarius | yes |
| MutantTurkey | that is the acronym for subversion. |
| aquarius | ah! |
| MutantTurkey | so subversion is a "versioned control system" |
| Z_God | I have to leave now, good luck guys! :) |
| aquarius | wow! |
| MutantTurkey | basically we can see any changes made into the code |
| aquarius | bye bye Z_God |
| aquarius | nice talking to you mate |
| MutantTurkey | cya Z_God |
| Z_God | bye! |
| aquarius | MutantTurkey, interesting! |
| aquarius | what you do guys is a good deed indeed |
| MutantTurkey | and then when we make changes we "check" it into svn |
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| aquarius | i see |
| MobileTurkey | http://betterexplained.com/articles/a-visual-guide-to-version-control/ |
| aquarius | thank you, i'll read that! |
| MobileTurkey | that may help you get a beter idea |
| MobileTurkey | it's rather long |
| MobileTurkey | but just read a bit and look at the pictures |
| aquarius | sure |
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| aquarius | haha, yeah, i used to do that myself :) |
| aquarius | i have lotsa copies with just minor distinctions but i still keep them all :) |
| aquarius | i understood what you mean |
| MobileTurkey | well for a huge project, it's nessecary to use software |
| aquarius | perplexed... |
| MobileTurkey | ? |
| aquarius | well... complicated i mean |
| aquarius | a bit here, a bit there... |
| MobileTurkey | yeah it's confusing |
| aquarius | a whole structure.. |
| MobileTurkey | aquarius: chem class, gotta go |
| aquarius | sure! See ya, thanks for dropping by.. |
| aquarius | :) |
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| aquarius | anyone there? |
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| aquarius | welcome back :) |
| MutantTurkey | aquarius: :D |
| aquarius | look.. i have another question.. |
| aquarius | what's wrong with Konqueror anyway? Should i even bother with him or just use alternative browser? |
| MutantTurkey | what's wrong with konqueror? |
| MutantTurkey | At this point, there are browsers that do a much better job than konqueror, so why not use a browser that is developed actively |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | We will be porting Konqueror over to Webkit though |
| MutantTurkey | It's on the "list" |
| MutantTurkey | I still use Konqueror for everything else though, it's a great file manager |
| aquarius | there's only one prob with it: it crashes on flash media |
| aquarius | and yes, i tried to reassign it to webkit.. but didn't work.. |
| aquarius | as file manager it's ok at this point.. but as browser it lacks something.. |
| aquarius | though i'm not saying it's bad, it's because of some crosslinking issues |
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| MutantTurkey | aquarius: It has some issues |
| MutantTurkey | we are holding off on them till 3.5 |
| MutantTurkey | i mean 3.6 |
| MutantTurkey | I think |
| MutantTurkey | we need to get this release out before we look at that |
| aquarius | ok :) |
| aquarius | by the way, in KDE4.4 there's the same prob |
| aquarius | i tried it |
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| MutantTurkey | yeah :| |
| MutantTurkey | isn't KDE4.8 out? |
| aquarius | yes, but i installed latest Debian along with its KDE.. it was 4.4... |
| aquarius | didn't upgrade to anything.. |
| aquarius | well, i just tried it, now i'm on Gnome + Trinity |
| aquarius | and of course, i'm using KDE right now :) |
| aquarius | by the way, can i get rid of Gnome? |
| aquarius | i mean completely |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop? |
| aquarius | let's try... but i'm not sure |
| MutantTurkey | not sure |
| aquarius | "Just open Synaptic, search for 'gnome' and remove any packages that you do not want on your system. Obviously, some of the gnome-libs may have to stay as part of your base install. This is to be expected." |
| aquarius | by the way.. question... |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| MutantTurkey | there should be a gnome group |
| MutantTurkey | actually, so you can uninstall them all at once |
| aquarius | what if i don't need Kopete for instance, may i delete it? cause it gets lotsa dependencies, including some package by the name "trinity-network". What does it mean? |
| aquarius | as for gnome group... in Synaptic "Gnome" environment as such appears to be not installed (probably newer version, but not the one i have) |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
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| aquarius | weird what? |
| aquarius | that Gnome is not installed or that kopete takes a whole bunch of other things along if deleted? |
| KingSphinx | Just curious: nightly builds or 3.5.12? |
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| Z_God | seems trinity still won't install on oneiric |
| Z_God | there's still a dependency on libqt-perl |
| MutantTurkey | you should wait for the release |
| MutantTurkey | tim is still throwing up FTBFS fixes for oneiric |
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| MutantTurkey | Z_God: and you can't install that? |
| Z_God | it's not in oneiric anymore |
| MutantTurkey | ping kb9vqf |
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| MutantTurkey | let him know |
| Z_God | I talked with him about it yesterday |
| Z_God | it seems he removed only part of the deps that were not in oneiric |
| MutantTurkey | as lon gas he knows |
| Aquarius | i deleted Gnome |
| Aquarius | now it's only Trinity :) |
| MutantTurkey | we are not going to have oneiric ready till the 1st |
| MutantTurkey | Aquarius: excellent :D |
| Aquarius | :) |
| Z_God | yesterday there were even more packages as deps which weren't in oneiric |
| Z_God | I understand the goal is to have it working for the release |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | that is the goal |
| Aquarius | Opera is the best for Debian |
| MutantTurkey | opera is quite nice |
| MutantTurkey | I wrote my own browser however, it's quite to my liking |
| Aquarius | yes... it works better with java than anything else |
| Z_God | I was wrong about libqt-perl it seems to be a trinity package now, but it goes deepr |
| Z_God | deeper* |
| Aquarius | IceWeaseal jerks on it... Chrome doesn't execute it normally (some display glitches), but Opera just fine |
| Aquarius | i didn't delete it by the way! |
| Aquarius | i saw it |
| Z_God | ah yes, it depends on the wrong perl version |
| Aquarius | IceWeasel doesn't work with java anymore..... |
| Aquarius | dunno whyh |
| Aquarius | other browsers do |
| Z_God | Aquarius: try to open about:plugins |
| Aquarius | hm.. ok |
| Z_God | and see if java is listed |
| Aquarius | it opens, but it acts weird... gets stuck |
| Aquarius | never finishes the script |
| MutantTurkey | java just stinks |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: what else? |
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| KingSphinx | Wait, Trinity won't build on Oneiric? |
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| Z_God | KingSphinx: it builds, but doesn't install yet ;) |
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| Z_God | MobileTurkey: I made a pastbin |
| KingSphinx | Ye gads, hope that's fixed before the release date... |
| Z_God | the issue is that libqt-perl depends on a old perl version |
| Z_God | http://pastebin.com/UJjBvrb5 |
| KingSphinx | Fun stuff. >_>; |
| MobileTurkey | change the depend |
| KingSphinx | Though judging from that, I see that it's now kubuntu-desktop-trinity instead of kubuntu-desktop-kde3 :) |
| Z_God | I don't know who all has access to the build scrips the quickbuild system uses |
| Z_God | but I guess tim will have to fix this |
| MobileTurkey | KingSphinx: it's been kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| MobileTurkey | the only reason kubuntu-desktop-kde3 package still exists is as a transistion package so that if you originally had it, it would continue t owork |
| Aquarius | can anyone tell me how do i execute gz package? |
| Aquarius | to install application |
| Aquarius | the thing is, i deleted that tool along with many other gnome apps :) |
| Aquarius | now i'm looking for alternative thing |
| Z_God | gz is just compression |
| Z_God | it stands for gzip |
| Aquarius | i know, but there was an app that unpacks/installs it instantly |
| Z_God | ark |
| Z_God | you should install ark-trinity |
| Z_God | it's a front-end for the gzip tool |
| Aquarius | aha.. ok |
| Aquarius | thanks |
| Aquarius | but i think i have it |
| Z_God | then you should be able to open the file with it |
| Z_God | but gzip is just a way to compress a single file |
| Z_God | anything can be in there |
| Aquarius | it just opens it as an archive, but how do i install the app? |
| Z_God | I don't know what you have |
| Z_God | but you only told us about a compressed file ;) |
| Z_God | if there is something special inside this gzip compression, and you also want to do something with that, you need to provide a bit more info |
| Aquarius | it's application that's supposed to be installed |
| Aquarius | Opera |
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| Aquarius | and that's how it is, gz |
| Aquarius | hm... somebody russian here |
| Z_God | Opera should have a deb |
| Aquarius | well, yes, it doe |
| Aquarius | s |
| Z_God | ну и что? |
| Z_God | ;) |
| Z_God | better use the deb really |
| Aquarius | не выпендривайся) |
| MobileTurkey | anyway gotta go go go |
| Fat-Zer | церфе зкщидуьы, |
| MobileTurkey | cya guys |
| Z_God | MobileTurkey: see you! |
| Fat-Zer | *wthat problems? |
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| Aquarius | Fat-Zer, чьих будешь?) |
| Aquarius | anyways.. just checking... |
| Aquarius | didn't expect any russians around here... |
| Fat-Zer | наших=) |
| Fat-Zer | why? |
| Aquarius | )) |
| Aquarius | as i said.. just checking :) |
| Aquarius | you could've been using proxy or something... so wanted to make sure that you are who you claim to be according to your IP ;) |
| Z_God | you're from Moldova? |
| Aquarius | correct. |
| Z_God | why use a proxy? |
| Aquarius | Z_God, who knows :) |
| Z_God | now, I wonder if you can figure out my nationality :P |
| Aquarius | people do lotsa stuff seemingly without any decent reason :) |
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| Aquarius | thanks |
| Aquarius | ok, i'm using deb now |
| Aquarius | i mean Kpackage to install it |
| Z_God | but opera won't have a gz package that can be installed |
| Z_God | either they have the executable compressed with gzip |
| Aquarius | i see. |
| Aquarius | thanks |
| Aquarius | Z_God, and where are you supposed to be from? :) |
| Z_God | or they would have a whole collection of files packed together with tar |
| Z_God | and then compressed with gz |
| Z_God | which would just extract to a subdirectory |
| Z_God | Aquarius: you couldn't find it out? ;) |
| Aquarius | no |
| Z_God | it seems the same way I used with you, works with my ip address |
| Z_God | for my location at least |
| Z_God | but I'm dutch |
| Aquarius | hoi! |
| Aquarius | :) |
| Z_God | ! |
| Aquarius | ik wist zeker dat er wat nederlanders ook zijn :) |
| Z_God | wat doe jij dan in Moldavië? |
| Aquarius | maar nee.. ik ben niet nederlander... ik kan het maar een beetje praten :) |
| Aquarius | haha |
| Aquarius | ik woon hier :) |
| Aquarius | ik was hier geboren :) |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| Fat-Zer | really multinational channel=)) |
| Z_God | en hoe heb je nederlands geleerd? |
| Z_God | да, конечно :) |
| Aquarius | spreek je russisch ook? Of gebruikte je wat vertaler toen je mij iets zei? :) |
| Aquarius | echt waar? |
| Z_God | nee, geen vertaler |
| Z_God | ik kan een beetje russisch |
| Aquarius | oke... nog een nederlander die wat russisch kent! |
| Aquarius | kunt* |
| Z_God | ik zit trouwens in België atm |
| Aquarius | ja.. waarom? Heb je een russisch vrouw of heb je gewoon interesse om russisch te leren? |
| Aquarius | aha.. oke |
| Z_God | vooral interesse |
| Aquarius | aha.. oke. |
| Z_God | ik leer hier ook pools |
| Aquarius | ohh..... |
| Aquarius | ik zou het nooit willen leren :) |
| Z_God | hoezo niet? waarom wel Nederlands dan? |
| Aquarius | haha.. goeie vraag... |
| Aquarius | kan je eigenlijk niet vertellen kerel... had ook maar wat interesse daarna gaf ik op maar toch kan ik er al wat van he.. dus gebruik ik het af en toe :) |
| Aquarius | ik dacht dat het bijzonder is :) |
| Z_God | ja, je bent best goed |
| Z_God | ben je ook in Nederland geweest? |
| Aquarius | nooit :) |
| Aquarius | of Belgie |
| Aquarius | ik ben eerlijk gezegd nergens geweest behalve mijn eigen land :) |
| Z_God | dan is het helemaal bijzonder! |
| Aquarius | haha, jaa... zegt dat iedereen, hah :) |
| Z_God | in Nederland spreekt eigenlijk bijna iedereen ook wel Engels, vandaar dat weinig mensen snel Nederlands leren als vreemde taal |
| Aquarius | ja, dat weet ik wel... |
| Aquarius | meest buitenlanders wonen er al lang en kunnen ze nog steeds niet een woord nederlands, en hier zit je naast wat rus (die eigenlijk in Moldavie woont, derde wereld!) en kunt ie wel wat nederlands! Haha..... |
| Z_God | yep, de meeste buitenlanders die ik tegenkom hebben bijna geen nederlands nodig... |
| Z_God | alles is in het engels op universiteiten enzo |
| Aquarius | ja... |
| Aquarius | voor jullie is dat een soort dialect ofzo... maar ik vind het toch leuk :) |
| Z_God | enigszins wel ja, maar als je hier echt wil integreren dan heb je het eigenlijk wel nodig |
| Z_God | met alleen engels val je wel overal buiten |
| Aquarius | heb ik ook van gehoord :) |
| Aquarius | snap ik.. |
| Aquarius | hoe heet je kerel? |
| Z_God | kan je dat niet zien? ;) |
| Aquarius | Z_God? :) |
| Aquarius | kom maar.. |
| Z_God | welke IRC client gebruik je? |
| Aquarius | X-chat |
| Aquarius | ah |
| Aquarius | Julius |
| Z_God | je zou m'n naam wel moeten zien |
| Z_God | yep |
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| Z_God | ik zie bij jou wel alleen Aquarius |
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| Aquarius | maakt niet uit... zag ik wel vroeger maar even vergat... |
| Aquarius | Ja, bij mij is alleen maar Aquarius |
| Aquarius | mijn naam is Alexij :) |
| Z_God | hoe heet jij dan? |
| Z_God | ah :) |
| Aquarius | ken je zo'n naam toch |
| Aquarius | aangezien heb je interesse aan russisch |
| Z_God | ja, zeker |
| Aquarius | oke |
| Z_God | zit je ook op vkontakte? |
| Aquarius | erm... ja, maar ik heb er geen fotos op.. |
| Aquarius | ik hou niet van sociaal netwerk |
| Aquarius | om eerlijk te zijn :) |
| Z_God | misschien 'ns een trinity groep maken |
| Aquarius | ja hoor.. goed idee |
| Z_God | Fat-Zer: are you on vkontakte? we're talking about a trinity group |
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| Aquarius | hey... misschien is het nu al tijd om weer eens engels te praten? :) Ik heb niks tegen nederlands, altijd graag, maar die mensen zijn ook benieuwd waarover wij het hebben :) |
| Z_God | ja, prima :) |
| Aquarius | :) |
| Aquarius | but are you originally from Netherlands? |
| Aquarius | just a couple of hours ago i've met one nice dutch girl at a game of pool :) |
| Aquarius | on playforia website.. |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | I moved to belgium only a month ago |
| Z_God | but my stacks of CDs with Linux distros are still in the Netherlands ;) |
| Aquarius | hmm.. i see :) |
| Aquarius | is it better in Belgium? |
| Z_God | 2nd education is *much* cheaper here ;) |
| Aquarius | mm.. |
| Aquarius | i see. |
| Aquarius | damn.. i should've been sleeping by now.. haven't sleep all night and day long... |
| Z_God | what's the time there? |
| Aquarius | 10:30 |
| Z_God | you should talk with Fat-Zer btw |
| Aquarius | well for me it's pretty much late |
| Aquarius | surething |
| Z_God | I don't fully get his sleeping hours either ;) |
| Aquarius | well... actually i'm already tired of constant shifts in my schedule.... |
| Aquarius | i hate sleeping during a day! |
| Z_God | what kind of job do you have? |
| Aquarius | erm... would you mind if i don't tell? :) |
| Aquarius | well.. actually i'm a freelancer. |
| Aquarius | but i don't get orders regularly. |
| Z_God | in which area? |
| Aquarius | some translations, minor headhunting, sorting out stuff and making database for.. one dutch guy :) |
| Aquarius | he's SAP consultant |
| Aquarius | in The Hague. |
| Aquarius | he gets me to do some business too. |
| Aquarius | occassionally. |
| Z_God | http://vkontakte.ru/club31447113 |
| Z_God | I see :) |
| Aquarius | ah.. let me see... |
| Aquarius | done ;) |
| Z_God | I need a bigger image |
| Z_God | great :) |
| Z_God | the logo on the site is too small |
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| Z_God | I guess nobody here knows where the art is exactly in svn... |
| Aquarius | hm.. i'm not even sure what you're talking about... |
| Z_God | I just wanted some pics |
| Z_God | got them now :) |
| Z_God | looks bettre now |
| Z_God | better* |
| Aquarius | let's see... |
| Z_God | maybe one on G+ as well |
| Z_God | and facebook |
| Aquarius | yeah, well done :) |
| Aquarius | but it's more like KDE only... better to put there TDE too... |
| Aquarius | oh |
| Aquarius | sorry |
| Aquarius | it's T |
| Aquarius | weird... never noticed that.. |
| Z_God | hehe ;) |
| Z_God | it used to be a K ;) |
| Aquarius | aha |
| Aquarius | i'm going to sleep fellas. |
| Aquarius | see ya all, thanks for all :) |
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| Fat-Zer | kinfocenter don't display any help... |
| Fat-Zer | any ideas whY? |
| Fat-Zer | ok... it searchs documentation in ${KDEDIR}/share/doc/kde/HTML |
| Fat-Zer | but i buildet it with -DHTML_INSTALL_DIR="${KDEDIR}/share/doc/HTML |
| Fat-Zer | ok... another cmake bugreport... |
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| Fat-Zer | i don't want to look where the problem... i'll just crete a symlink... |
| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: what problem? |
| Fat-Zer | apps search documentation under ${KDEDIR}/share/doc/kde/HTML path |
| Fat-Zer | but i compiled evrething with -DHTML_INSTALL_DIR="${KDEDIR}/share/doc/HTML |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: not really a big deal... |
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| Fat-Zer | somebody knowes what is the package tqt3integration? |
| * Fat-Zer fells that kdebase becomes a huge heap of garbage... | |
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| xiaoy | how come trinity doesn't work if installed on ubuntu lucid? |
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| xiaoy | apter installing from the repos, results in a dependencies error when i reuse apt-get |
| xiaoy | so the only option is to ar-get install -f and remove trinity |
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| xiaoy | Iget this error: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data-kde3_4%3a3.5.12-0ubuntu6+r1152788_all.deb |
| xiaoy | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| xiaoy | thanks |
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| cpatrick08 | i was wondering when the iso for oneiric will be available |
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| Fat-Zer | can somebody say if svg images are supported in svn version? |
| Z_God | I don't think so... |
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| Fat-Zer | Z_God: so you can't open svg immages too? |
| Z_God | ah no, just opening them should allow viewing |
| Z_God | but maybe you need smth like ksvg installed |
| Z_God | I thought you meant for the icons in the DE itself, I think those are all converted to PNG or XPM |
| Z_God | konqueror's SVG renderer is extremely slow as far as I can remember though |
| Z_God | I need to leave now |
| Z_God | Fat-Zer: good luck! |
| Fat-Zer | ok... |
| Fat-Zer | i just can't set them as background.. |
| Fat-Zer | and view with konqueror or something else... |
| Fat-Zer | cya |
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| Aquarius | hi |
| Fat-Zer | Aquarius: hi |
| Fat-Zer | are you running trinity svn version? |
| Aquarius | how's it kicking bro? |
| Aquarius | erm.. just 3.5.12 |
| Aquarius | is svn = nightly builds? |
| Fat-Zer | yes... |
| Fat-Zer | i've got problems with svg images... don't know there is the problem... |
| Aquarius | i see. Well, i don't even know what that is. |
| Aquarius | hm |
| Aquarius | what kinda problem&& |
| Aquarius | maybe i have to go and check on it too |
| Aquarius | and also report back if any issue |
| Fat-Zer | can't set it as a background/can't watch with konqueror internal module... |
| Aquarius | ah.. |
| Aquarius | you mean you can't use svg images to use as a background for your desktop? As for Konqueror - it's full of bugs, so don't bother, it's ok |
| Aquarius | they gonna fix it a bit following next upcoming release of KDE. At least that's what they say. |
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| Fat-Zer | I just need to know if somebody has the same problem in svn... |
| Fat-Zer | becouse the problem can be in my kdelibs or qt builds... |
| Aquarius | i see. Well.. let me do it too. |
| Fat-Zer | or even in my system libraries... |
| Aquarius | hm |
| Aquarius | i don't even see SVG anywhere.. i mean i can't convert anything to it |
| Aquarius | i'm more concerned about sound issues i keep getting every now and then... |
| Aquarius | have you installed pulseaudio? |
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| Fat-Zer | Aquarius: no... i haven't ever used it... |
| Aquarius | the thing is.. i'm compelled to use it, cause i keep getting problems with Skype, Flash and Wine |
| Aquarius | they crosslink somehow and sound goes off |
| Fat-Zer | you can find some svg's in ${KDEDIR}/share/wallpepers/ |
| Aquarius | ah, ok |
| Aquarius | let me see |
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| Aquarius | i dunno where it is.. could you be more specific? |
| Fat-Zer | ls /usr/kde/3.5/share/wallpapers/*.svg[.z] |
| Aquarius | aha, ok |
| Fat-Zer | ls /usr/kde/3.5/share/wallpapers/*.svgz |wgetpaste |
| Fat-Zer | Your paste can be seen here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/498433 |
| Fat-Zer | here is mine... |
| Aquarius | hmm |
| Aquarius | wait a minute... |
| Fat-Zer | sorry, i can't help with sound issue... as i sad i've never installed it and i belive that pulseaudio arts and other sound daemons are evil. and i'm currently trying to run trinity in vbox. |
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| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: hi! |
| Fat-Zer | got some time? |
| MutantTurkey | yes sir! |
| Aquarius | Fat-Zer, the thing is, i don't feel much like messing with PulseAudio, but i DO have to do it, 'cause there's no other way i can solve my audio probs. Apparently they haven't yet corrected many things in either desktop environment. |
| Aquarius | hi MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | hey :) |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: i've got troubles with svg's |
| Fat-Zer | can you try to set it e.g. as desktop wallpaper? |
| Aquarius | listen, i don't have such folder even |
| Aquarius | there's no kde folder in usr |
| Fat-Zer | you are running svn version isn't it? |
| MutantTurkey | I think Aquarius is running 3.5.12 |
| Fat-Zer | Aquarius: it depends on distributin... |
| Aquarius | yep, i told him already |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: why what's up? |
| MutantTurkey | Aquarius: I think everything is in /opt/trinity |
| Aquarius | aha, gotcha |
| Aquarius | i knew it.. just forgot |
| MutantTurkey | anyone seen Xu_R or kb9vqf? |
| Fat-Zer | you should replase /usr/kde/3.5/ with directory where all trinity stuff goes to... |
| MutantTurkey | it should be in /opt/trinity... |
| MutantTurkey | at last that is what we are using |
| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: haven't seen kb9vqf since sunday.... |
| MutantTurkey | havent seen him in a few days |
| Aquarius | well, it works for me |
| Aquarius | svgz |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: so what s the problem with svg? |
| Aquarius | brb.. restart |
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| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: i can't set them as background images/can't see them with konqueror etc |
| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer: do you have the svg libs installed |
| Fat-Zer | libart -yes |
| Fat-Zer | and kdelib compiled WITH_LIBART=ON |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| MutantTurkey | let me try |
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| Fat-Zer | gtg anyway... |
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| MobileTurkey | ok |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 554 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr changed the Component on bug 554 from kdebase to arts. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 555 filed by tiagomnm@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=555 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Resize and Rotate and KMenu |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 556 filed by tiagomnm@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=556 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kopete Jabber support not working |
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| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr changed the Component on bug 554 from arts to kdebase. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 557 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=557 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, regression: krun command completion always fills in commands from PATH |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 558 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=558 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, regression: text becomes invisible in multi-line form entries |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 557 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=557 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, regression: krun command completion always fills in commands from PATH |
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| Aquarius | hey everybody |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | I feel like a big jerk, I just bailed on band practice for my dad's church ( filling in for bass player while he's away) because I got tickets for the concert i want to go to |
| Aquarius | hm.. |
| MutantTurkey | I don't care that much |
| MutantTurkey | but if she cant find someone to cover for me (she wont be able to ) |
| MutantTurkey | I cant go to this concert |
| MutantTurkey | but I got my buddy to loan me 30 bucks and buy me the ticket to go with him, a few hours ago |
| MutantTurkey | so what do i do? :| |
| Aquarius | well... what happens if the church lacks a bass player just once? :) |
| Aquarius | i really dunno dude.. |
| Aquarius | i'd not want to let them down actually... if they rely on me |
| Aquarius | but what depends is neccesity... what is more important at that point? Church or concert... and we should consider possible consequences, which is worse, you not having been on the concert or your absence at church? :) |
| Aquarius | hang on now... gotta log out and back in.. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 559 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=559 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine crashes while access to xine after startup |
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| MutantTurkey | Aquarius: I can still make it to church on sunday |
| MutantTurkey | just not to practice |
| Aquarius | ah.... then it's alright |
| MutantTurkey | but if i am not at practice i cant play this week |
| Aquarius | if you feel you can do it without rehearsal then it's good |
| Aquarius | hm... |
| MutantTurkey | I mean I can't play if i don't practice. |
| MutantTurkey | thats that. |
| MutantTurkey | but I don't want to play this week |
| MutantTurkey | I have an awesome concert |
| Aquarius | but who made it a point? Like you don't practice you don't play? |
| Aquarius | now wait... restart |
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| Aquarius | go on |
| MutantTurkey | there is a rule |
| MutantTurkey | no practice = no play. |
| MutantTurkey | we have a setlist of like 250+ songs we rotate |
| MutantTurkey | each time we vary it, different styles, intros, orders of operation |
| MutantTurkey | basically we decide how it will go on practice day |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 547 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=547 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, gtk-qt-engine does not support GTK3 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 451 as a duplicate of bug 394. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=451 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Problems with DCOP after using kdesu (Debian Squeeze) |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=394 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Problems with DCOP After Using kdesu |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 394 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
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| cpatrick008 | i was wondering when the oneiric isos will be available |
| KingSphinx | Probably shortly after 3.5.13 is released, which is around November 1st if I remember correctly. |
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| cpatrick08 | ok thanks |
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| K`zan | Wow, big updates today! Thanks Guys!!! |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 555 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=555 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Resize and Rotate and KMenu |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 384 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=384 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, plasma-desktop.kde4 is started along with trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 560 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=560 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, akregator no longer displays icons next to feed titles |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 558 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=558 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, regression: text becomes invisible in multi-line form entries |
| KingSphinx | So I can safely assume the code freeze hasn't happened yet? |
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| KingSphinx | Blah, KDE is getting really memory-hungry. With no other programs running, it takes at least 750 MB of RAM on my computer to run. |
| KingSphinx | And sometimes a weird bug will happen where my CPU is reportedly stuck at 100% usage for both cores. |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | thats that |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 561 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=561 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Keyboard numlock light no longer works |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 562 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=562 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, File conflict between basket-trinity and basket-kontact-integration-trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 563 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=562 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, File conflict between basket-trinity and basket-kontact-integration-trinity |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=561 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Keyboard numlock light no longer works |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 564 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=564 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, artsd cannot start |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=564 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, artsd cannot start |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 565 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=565 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, klipper action menu can no longer start a KDE app |
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| thistle_ | Is there a binary repo available for Ubuntu 11.10? |
| KingSphinx | thistle_: Not yet, they should be available when 3.5.13 is released (November 1st if I remember correctly). |
| thistle_ | Thanks. I had to go with 11.10 because of my new hardware. |
| thistle_ | I really hate most of the new desktop options |
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| kb9vqf | INFO: Oneiric packages built and are installable--testers welcome |
| kb9vqf | Release is Nov 1st (in 3 days) |
| kb9vqf | Last call for 3.5.13 patches--on Oct. 29 the repository will be closed for ALL UPDATE |
| kb9vqf | *UPDATES |
| kb9vqf | Tarballs will be built shortly after the repository is frozen (closed to all updates) |
| kb9vqf | There will be no Ubuntu LiveCDs this time around, unless someone would like to respin one |
| kb9vqf | LibreOffice integration will not be available in oneiric pending creation and submission of patches to the upstream LibreOffice project |
| kb9vqf | Spread the word! :) |
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| * kb9vqf mutters xyzzy! and is transported to a large, dark cave. In the corner stands a server rack. Low power processors litter the floor. Emblazened across the far wall are the words https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/+build/16324 in glowing green letters! The vision lasts for a second then fades away. You are now holding a netbook. | |
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| MutantTurkey | last seen kb9vqf or Xu_R? |
| MutantTurkey | this release is definitely helping bring out some bugs and get them squashed though:) |
| MutantTurkey | which is execellent |
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| kb9vqf-offsite | MutantTurkey: See the tail of the channel log ehre: v |
| kb9vqf-offsite | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/irc/logs_current.html |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf-offsite: :) hey. |
| MutantTurkey | keep up the le awesome work! |
| kb9vqf-offsite | did you see the tail? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I'd also like your help with the release notes if you don't mind |
| MutantTurkey | yes I can help |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I really don't feel like picking through the SVN changelogs--basically someone needs to do that and flesh out the outline that I started on the Wiki |
| kb9vqf-offsite | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13 |
| MutantTurkey | you might want to post that little bit about oneiric on the nanounce as wel |
| kb9vqf-offsite | yes, probably |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I don't have a lot of time, donations are practically nonexisteent, and I can't justify working on LibreOffice at the moment |
| MutantTurkey | so what do you think the most efficent way to do this is? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | ? |
| MutantTurkey | yeah Libreoffice is low proity |
| MutantTurkey | to work up the release notes I mean |
| MutantTurkey | go through the patches page? look at the git revisions for Qt3 |
| kb9vqf-offsite | yes |
| MutantTurkey | should we mention that we are maintaining Qt3 ?? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I posted the TDE 3.5.13 starting revision on the Wiki |
| kb9vqf-offsite | go forward from there |
| MutantTurkey | okay I see it |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I did mention it on the Wikiactually :) |
| kb9vqf-offsite | about Qt3 that is |
| MutantTurkey | okay awesome |
| MutantTurkey | this release is already ramping up users |
| kb9vqf-offsite | With no LiveCDs I cant pull useful screenshots |
| MutantTurkey | at least we have people sending in last minute patches |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf-offsite: I will just make a "default" account and run trinity and take some screens? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | not reeally--last minute bug reports w/o patches is more like it |
| MutantTurkey | it looks identical |
| MutantTurkey | that too :x |
| kb9vqf-offsite | yes, just make a default account |
| MutantTurkey | and take some pictures? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I didn't have any time for artwork so it will probably look exactly like 3.5.12 :-P |
| kb9vqf-offsite | yes |
| MutantTurkey | who cares. |
| kb9vqf-offsite | right |
| MutantTurkey | looks mean nothing because my default trinity looks nothing like regular trinity |
| kb9vqf-offsite | the look is pretty well stabilized at this point anyway |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| kb9vqf-offsite | default look that is :) |
| MutantTurkey | you see it and think "oh look it's KDE3.5 |
| MutantTurkey | very iconic/recognizable |
| kb9vqf-offsite | so for larger features that you notice in the changelog fire up the changed app and take a screenprint of the new feature |
| kb9vqf-offsite | e.g.t he monitor configuration tookl |
| kb9vqf-offsite | *tool |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| kb9vqf-offsite | thanks :) |
| kb9vqf-offsite | did you notice the little note on the bottom iof the IRC channel log? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | (before we started this conversation) |
| kb9vqf-offsite | you might be interested |
| kb9vqf-offsite | :) |
| MutantTurkey | about the liveCD? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | below that |
| kb9vqf-offsite | where I ramble on about something |
| * kb9vqf-offsite is being cryptic on purpose | |
| MutantTurkey | about the low power processors? :p |
| MutantTurkey | intel atom *cough* *cough* |
| kb9vqf-offsite | armel |
| kb9vqf-offsite | we now have armel builds |
| kb9vqf-offsite | you know, for netbooks :) |
| MutantTurkey | that is awesome |
| MutantTurkey | some arm processors are actually quite powerful |
| MutantTurkey | look at the beagleboard or pandaboard |
| MutantTurkey | they are well capable of running basic things, as well as trinity |
| kb9vqf-offsite | right |
| kb9vqf-offsite | and it's more likely for Trinity to be usable than, say, KDE4 |
| kb9vqf-offsite | Trinity could be a killer desktop there :) |
| MutantTurkey | I am really excited |
| MutantTurkey | because of GNOME3 and Unity are so ridiculous |
| kb9vqf-offsite | can you also handle the oneiric announce to the mailing list? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I am trying to get things in order here |
| MutantTurkey | yes. |
| kb9vqf-offsite | thanks |
| kb9vqf-offsite | getting the packages copied |
| MutantTurkey | announce + devel + users? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | yes |
| * MutantTurkey will be honest and say he hasn't even started on the arch builds | |
| MutantTurkey | are you going to produce tarballs for us? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | make it good, triple check speling/grmr |
| kb9vqf-offsite | on the 28th or 29th |
| MutantTurkey | i'll get my dad to proof read it. |
| kb9vqf-offsite | probably the 29th |
| MutantTurkey | He's quite the nazi in that regard |
| kb9vqf-offsite | :) |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I'm seeing if any more critical bugs are going to crawl out of the woodwork in the next couple of days before firing tarball builds |
| MutantTurkey | should I mention the ARM builds on the release notes? |
| kb9vqf-offsite | that process alone could take 6-8 hours, then the upload could take another 12-24 hours after that |
| kb9vqf-offsite | yes |
| kb9vqf-offsite | note that they are onyl for Squeeze |
| kb9vqf-offsite | and rather untested due to a lack of ARM hardware here |
| * kb9vqf-offsite wouldn't mind a donated Ubuntu ARM netbook for testing :) | |
| MutantTurkey | but you are cross compiling so in *theory* it should work |
| kb9vqf-offsite | *Ubuntu-ready |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I'm actually native compiling on qemu |
| kb9vqf-offsite | so it darn better work! |
| MutantTurkey | okay thats good too |
| kb9vqf-offsite | 48 hours for koffice...the 400MHz emulated ARM is not very powerful |
| kb9vqf-offsite | though I can run 8 of them at once so it kind of makes up for the low speed |
| kb9vqf-offsite | anyway let me know when you have the release notes ready |
| kb9vqf-offsite | if I'm not here shoot me an Email |
| * kb9vqf-offsite probably WONT be here | |
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| kb9vqf-offsite | MutantTurkey: You have Wiki access, correct? |
| MutantTurkey | yes sir |
| kb9vqf-offsite | ok |
| kb9vqf-offsite | just Email me when it's ready |
| MutantTurkey | I doubt it will be before tonight is up |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I'd prefer to have it in a couple days |
| kb9vqf-offsite | *within |
| MutantTurkey | we have people coming from germany on a high school exchange |
| kb9vqf-offsite | so I can proofread it |
| kb9vqf-offsite | ok |
| MutantTurkey | my mom is the head of foreign language at her district, so it's all hell for her |
| kb9vqf-offsite | I can imagine |
| MutantTurkey | leaves me to clean the house :x |
| MutantTurkey | but anyway, I only have 3 more rooms to go |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | and then i'll get on the release notes |
| kb9vqf-offsite | sprechen sie Deutsch? |
| MutantTurkey | and announcement about oneiric |
| MutantTurkey | yah! |
| MutantTurkey | no very badly. I am quite competent at understanding it. |
| MutantTurkey | Ja rather :p |
| kb9vqf-offsite | very, very badly kindergarten level here too :-P |
| kb9vqf-offsite | ok, thanks |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| * kb9vqf-offsite needs to run | |
| MutantTurkey | run forrest, run! |
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| * MutantTurkey runs too | |
| KingSphinx | Release notes? Is 3.5.13 finally finished? |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: due Nov 1st |
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| KingSphinx | Ah, I thought it was done early. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=565 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, klipper action menu can no longer start a KDE app |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 567 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=567 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [ksmserver-trinity] dpkg-divert conflict |
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| Aquarius | hi |
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| ivansorokin | hello! is there anybody here? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 570 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=570 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kasablanca packaging request |
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| Aquarius | hi |
| Aquarius | any living thing? |
| Strangelv | "Maybe |
| * Strangelv should be asleep by now | |
| Strangelv | "What are you thinking of for combining the KDE 2 theme? Graphical elements only, or structural ones too? |
| * Strangelv doesn't remember KDE 2 very well | |
| Aquarius | oh, so you've read it |
| Aquarius | well, basically i'd like to bring back old taskbar. There are some minor things that make me feel better |
| Strangelv | oenly this part: <Aquarius> so... how's the idea of integrating KDE2/3 themes? :) |
| Aquarius | nice tab buttons |
| Strangelv | "and seeing the KDE 2 screenshot |
| Aquarius | yeah, i've been talking about it for a few days |
| Aquarius | people like KDE2 style. As i said, basically it's only taskbar that looks a bit different from 3.5 |
| Strangelv | "I'm horribyl distracted and about to get even moreso: I'm trying to participate in National Novel Writing Month. Trying to work out my characters and outlines before the starting gun |
| Strangelv | I've long longed for choices with the taskbar |
| * Strangelv was quite happy with the Windows 2000 taskbar | |
| Aquarius | yeah.. you can't really customize it FULLY... there are some gaps... |
| Aquarius | i love Win 2000, but i can't install it anymore..... |
| Aquarius | and all because of shitty ATI drivers |
| Aquarius | those are not supported with Win2k anymore... |
| Aquarius | http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/large/kde2final_2.jpg |
| Strangelv | "I bought a still shrinkwrapped box off of EBay a couple of years ago when I couldn't find any f my CDs for it, but still don't have it up and running anywhere. I'm about to bera kdown and rebuild a K7 system to run it on and host my Windows disks so I can network them and look for missing files there |
| Strangelv | hmm |
| Strangelv | "I'll keep in mind I may need to hunt around for a video card specifically for that system |
| Aquarius | here's KDE2.... mainly it's only nice tab buttons (windows like that are really PUSHED and not just bolded) and nice frame for the tray section which is missing in KDE3.5.. i like that frame. |
| Aquarius | ok :) |
| Aquarius | i don't even know where to get that version even... |
| * Strangelv always runs his taskbar verticalyl on the left side and has since Windows 95 | |
| Aquarius | i never did that.. |
| Strangelv | "So I can't actually compare it that well with what I have running on my machine |
| Strangelv | "It makes even moer sense now than when I did it then, given that most displays are 16:9 these day-s |
| Strangelv | "vertical screen area is precious; horizontal is cheap |
| Strangelv | "moreso with this display than others -- it's 1360x768 |
| Aquarius | http://89.28.122.14:8080/snapshot18.png |
| Aquarius | my desktop |
| Strangelv | "The difference is more subtle than I can tell. Then again, I've also been awake too long |
| Aquarius | perhaps that's the case |
| Aquarius | :) |
| Aquarius | but there IS a difference... tabs are first of all fainted and secondly when active they're just bolded... sometimes i don't notice good which is active and which is not |
| Strangelv | fainted? |
| Aquarius | in KDE2 it was just at best... in KDE3.0 too, but they already started to deviate back there |
| Aquarius | yeah, app names look dusky |
| Strangelv | "Pushed in or not pushed in depending on whether or not it's maximized? ...or on top? |
| Aquarius | listen, tabs are not being pushed in KDE3.5. They just change colour and font fades in |
| Aquarius | and bolds |
| Aquarius | and that's it |
| Strangelv | "ja. I finally figuerd out that they are in KDE 2... so this is the option you want to return? |
| Aquarius | YES!!! |
| Aquarius | i want it so bad |
| Strangelv | "Sorry that I'm being dense over here... need to look up a phone number and get to sleep |
| Aquarius | it's alright mate... i've been there |
| Aquarius | unfortunatelly pretty much recently... and probably gonna get there once again pretty much soon |
| Aquarius | however.... by me it's different.. usually i get more alert and sharpminded when i'm exhausted |
| Aquarius | i mean specifically due to lack of sleep. |
| Aquarius | not by any other means. |
| Aquarius | http://digit.que.ne.jp/visit/image/2004.10/coLinux_002.jpg |
| Aquarius | here's KDE3.0 |
| Aquarius | but as i said.. it's already slightly deviated, like something was pushing them by the balls to make those buttons less impressive. |
| Strangelv | "So when are thep pushed in and when are they not pushed in? |
| Aquarius | as you see, active (pushed) tabs are not even darkened here |
| Aquarius | when active |
| Aquarius | when you click on it, maximise the window |
| Aquarius | it's about "pushed". |
| Aquarius | and when not it's obviously inactive app tab. |
| Aquarius | pushed = maximized and active. |
| Aquarius | in KDE3.5 dusky tabs are usually not maximized and apps are in the tray, but for some reason they stay on taskbar too. I can't explain that, it's beyond my comprehension :) |
| Aquarius | but i personally think it's redundant. |
| Aquarius | it only brings one in confusion. At least me.. |
| Aquarius | http://www.digibarn.com/collections/screenshots/KDE%203-0-x/kde3-snapshot2.jpg |
| Aquarius | here's another KDE3 shot |
| Aquarius | tabs are pushed, but not much impressive this time. But at least i can SEE that it's pushed and active. |
| Aquarius | i wish it was at least like that |
| Aquarius | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Kde2.2.2-1.pnghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Kde2.2.2-1.png |
| Strangelv | "Describe the desired as an option historical behavior and file it as a feature request in http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net? |
| Aquarius | hm... ok :) |
| Aquarius | but a bit later. Anyway you're gonna sleep now. |
| Strangelv | Hopefully |
| Aquarius | by your comeback it'll be done i guess. |
| Aquarius | just do it man... |
| Strangelv | I'm also not a particularly useful person to explain these things to normally. I do need to learn enough of the packaging system to start replacing graphics, but that's probably going to be the limits of my activitiies. Also, not before December |
| Aquarius | sure. We can wait :) |
| Aquarius | but listen, it should be just an extra feature for KDE3.5 styles option. |
| Aquarius | there's only "classic KDE" thing, it should be like "KDE2", "KDE3" and so on |
| Aquarius | that'd be great. |
| Aquarius | people will stick to Trinity |
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| Z_God | Aquarius: did you still research in which svn revisions the changes were made to the themes? |
| Z_God | this is very important if you really want these things to return again |
| Aquarius | sorry.... i'm here now |
| Aquarius | now.. tell me one thing... |
| Aquarius | is that "SVN" here supposed to be revisions of Trinity as such? |
| Aquarius | then they may not exist... for how long has Trinity existed anyway? |
| Aquarius | i really dunno where to start. |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | it's about the revisions |
| Z_God | all this info was always kept, you can back endlessly in the past, also starting from trinity |
| Z_God | you can really get a copy of every single version of every single file from trinity throughout the years from the start of the KDE project |
| Z_God | and svn can show you the exact changes as well, including who committed (made) them and the commit message associated with it |
| Aquarius | i didn't know that |
| Z_God | that's why I'm telling you :) |
| Aquarius | thanks! |
| Z_God | every decent software project keeps this info |
| Z_God | because it can be very important |
| Z_God | as important as the code itself maybe |
| Z_God | in this case, I would suggest checking out the part of trinity svn containing the themes |
| Z_God | and reading through the commit logs of some of the important theming files |
| Z_God | there is a lot of documentation available for svn, you should look at these functions in particular: co (checkout), log, blame and diff |
| Aquarius | ok! |
| Aquarius | where do i look?.. |
| Aquarius | i mean.. is it on a website? |
| Aquarius | let's check.. |
| Aquarius | found it.. |
| Aquarius | hmm... |
| Aquarius | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/ |
| Aquarius | which folder, could you tell? |
| Z_God | there is ome stuff in kdeartwork it seems |
| Z_God | some* |
| Aquarius | aha |
| Aquarius | ok |
| Z_God | btw |
| Z_God | did you see this? |
| Z_God | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27731&forumpage=0&PHPSESSID=cewbuhgq |
| Aquarius | yeah, but it's only window style, besides Trinity has it too. |
| Aquarius | i'm interested in the Taskbar mostly |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | it may give some hints though |
| Aquarius | Revision 132826 - (view) (download) (as text) (annotate) - [select for diffs] |
| Aquarius | Modified Mon Jan 21 02:32:05 2002 UTC (9 years, 9 months ago) by gallium |
| Aquarius | Original Path: trunk/kdeartwork/styles/Makefile.am |
| Aquarius | File length: 17 byte(s) |
| Aquarius | Diff to previous 118689 |
| Aquarius | Clean out all the old lingering KDE2 styles. |
| Z_God | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdelibs/kstyles/ |
| Z_God | seems there are the main styles |
| Z_God | also look at rev. 514714 |
| Aquarius | ok |
| Z_God | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdelibs/kstyles/plastik/plastik.cpp?view=log |
| Z_God | seems this give a lot of info |
| Z_God | plastik was only added in kde 3.3 or smth like that though |
| Z_God | but you get the idea on where to look :) |
| Aquarius | yeah, but why do you keep tracking plastik stuff? |
| Z_God | I don't know where the changes are |
| Z_God | but I think they could be in there |
| Z_God | you could also consider the kicker sources |
| Z_God | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdebase/kicker/taskbar/taskbar.cpp?view=log |
| Aquarius | it's first of all KDE2/3.0 and classic styles |
| Aquarius | no plastik |
| Aquarius | ooh.. let's see |
| Aquarius | Add initial support for Kicker "Deep Buttons", a more highly textured style than the normal "flat" Kicker GUI |
| Aquarius | Add preliminary GUI and configuration structures needed for hot-resizing panels |
| Aquarius | maybe this is it... |
| Z_God | 406411' |
| Z_God | I think that one could be it |
| Aquarius | let's see |
| Aquarius | halo'd text, and three new options for taskbarrc: |
| Aquarius | DrawButtons |
| Aquarius | HaloText |
| Aquarius | ShowButtonOnHover |
| Aquarius | these probably won't make it into the config dialog like this, however. |
| Aquarius | i'm considering adding a "profiles" mechanism so you can pick between, |
| Aquarius | for instance, "Classic" / "Zen" / "Transparency" |
| Aquarius | 406819 |
| Z_God | try those out! |
| Aquarius | :) |
| Aquarius | ok :) |
| Z_God | it seems there used to be smth called mtaskbar in the past to do the reverse of what you want btw: http://web.archive.org/web/20060116025418/http://www.uni-weimar.de/~wolff3/index_taskbar.html |
| Z_God | I guess DrawButtons is the one you want from those options |
| Aquarius | yep |
| Aquarius | and a couple of frames |
| Aquarius | i want a frame for tray section |
| Aquarius | just like it was in KDE2 |
| Z_God | "Turning this option on will cause the taskbar to draw visible button frames for each entry in the taskbar. \n\nBy default, this option is off." |
| Aquarius | well... they are visible even NOW... but they're not pushed equally to KDE2/3 |
| Aquarius | they just bold |
| Aquarius | by default it's off, yes. |
| Z_God | I just quote this description of the option |
| Z_God | the* |
| Aquarius | i see |
| Z_God | so edit your taskbarrc and kill & restart kicker ;) |
| Aquarius | :) |
| Z_God | I have to go off now |
| Z_God | will be interesting to hear if you get some things to work :) |
| Z_God | good luck! |
| Aquarius | see ya :) |
| Aquarius | thanks |
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| ivansorokin | how can I install TDE on ubuntu oneric? I looked in http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php but it has PPA only for maverick and before. |
| ivansorokin | also, is there any plans about future of TDE? qt4 porting or something? |
| Aquarius | new versions for sure ;) |
| Aquarius | 3.5.13 is coming up soon. |
| Aquarius | i'm not one from the crew, so i can't tell. |
| Aquarius | by the way, today i encountered the same problem, tried out Ubuntu, but couldn't find Trinity KDE for it. |
| Aquarius | so i just gave it up. |
| Aquarius | привет, кстати. |
| ivansorokin | привет |
| ivansorokin | =) |
| ivansorokin | how do you how I know russian? |
| Aquarius | doesn't your name tell? :) |
| ivansorokin | ye, that's right |
| Aquarius | so i'm just holding on to Debian, i've already got used to it, and i find Ubuntu overly plastic and mainstream and actually uncomfortable. |
| ivansorokin | I think I'll send my questions to mailing list |
| Aquarius | try. |
| ivansorokin | I was thought to switch to debian many times, is it really better? |
| Aquarius | i like it more. |
| Aquarius | and i chose it immediatelly as i decided to check out linux in general. I dunno why, i guess i liked the name in first place ;) |
| Aquarius | and yeah, it's not too bloated, it's not too complicated and yet not childish, it's just fine. |
| ivansorokin | and one more question. Is TDE more stable that KDE4 (for example KDE 4.7)? |
| Aquarius | can't tell, by me it works just fine. No errors and stuff... although i'm not doing that much yet, so i dunno. As for KDE4, i didn't use it for long, i can only tell that i didn't really like it :) That's about as much as i can tell you. |
| ivansorokin | " it's not too bloated, it's not too complicated and yet not childish, it's just fine." -- that's sounds good |
| Aquarius | yep. You might as well try it out. |
| ivansorokin | I definitely give it a shot |
| Aquarius | BUT... personally i'm having some sound issues. Minor but quite disturbing sometimes. But let this not be a specimen of Debian stability to you, 'cause it could be some software/hardware incompatibility... i dunno... but i have probs with skype. |
| Aquarius | even if you do get some probs, you can fix them i believe. Even i can do it. But you have to study those mixers and stuff... Alsa/PulseAudio and such |
| Aquarius | try it, you might not get ANY trouble... but im just telling you that Debian ain't 100% perfect either. So you may expect some dirty tricks. Though if you get rid of them then it'd be once and for all. |
| Aquarius | Debian looks more serious and it has old Gnome interface if not KDE chosen. |
| Aquarius | not that Unity crap in latest Ubuntu |
| Aquarius | just plain standard Gnome. |
| Aquarius | not to mention that you can install TDE on it easily. |
| jumpship | I believe tde pkgs for oneric will be out on the first of the month, I know it's being worked on, but I don't follow ubuntu stuff very close |
| Aquarius | me neither. I dunno anything about it. I just tried it out today to see if i get the same sound issues. |
| Aquarius | well... i didn't really check on it deeply.. i got fed up of the whole crap OS faster than i could actually find out. |
| ivansorokin | KDE4 totally pissed me off when I read this bug (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154535 -- a bug to allow to remove nasty useless "plasma" button) |
| tbottu | 04Bug 154535: was not found. |
| Aquarius | i didn't like the way it looks in first place. I like classic appearance. Without no plasma/aero/Win 7 impersonating crap. |
| jumpship | ubuntu is debian at it's base, some difference, but very similar |
| Aquarius | in other words, long live Trinity :) |
| Aquarius | jumpship, , we know :) |
| Aquarius | and HEY! |
| Aquarius | man, where have you been? :) |
| ivansorokin | I can cope with it looks |
| Aquarius | ivansorokin, not me. |
| ivansorokin | but i can't copy when some tells me: you don't know how to use your desktop, We'll teach you how to use you desktop |
| ivansorokin | *copy->cope |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 571 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=571 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, dbus-qt package names are unclear |
| ivansorokin | I just wondering what a crazy guys manage KDE now |
| Aquarius | thought on using Gnome instead? |
| ivansorokin | yes, it's the same crap |
| ivansorokin | "you don't need to have this option" |
| Aquarius | it's Unity |
| Aquarius | i suppose. |
| Aquarius | but if you want old Gnome then again you can try Debian. |
| ivansorokin | i'm not a gnome fan really |
| Aquarius | i see. |
| ivansorokin | Aquarius do you have a SIP accout? |
| Aquarius | what's that? |
| ivansorokin | voicechat |
| ivansorokin | like skype |
| Aquarius | ah.. no.. why? |
| ivansorokin | but free as in freedom |
| Aquarius | well skype is also free. You don't pay to make it work, do you ;) |
| ivansorokin | free as in "free speech", not "free beer" |
| Aquarius | i don't dig your analogy to be honest. Don't you speak for free in skype? Sorry for being too much straight/ |
| ivansorokin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre |
| Aquarius | whatever |
| ivansorokin | long story short, free software is not about cost, it has other definition. Realy free software can be sold. |
| jumpship | wasn't skype bought by Microsoft? |
| Aquarius | jumpship, i heard that too. |
| Aquarius | ivansorokin, what do you care if you can use it for free? |
| ivansorokin | it can become not free one day |
| jumpship | Thats a very old discussion, and if you've never been burned by free cost but closed software, you luckier than me |
| Aquarius | ivansorokin, so? Wait till that happens and then we shall see. Anything can become not free one day. |
| ivansorokin | and I don't want to force other people to use skype, because I'm doing so. |
| Aquarius | neither am i forcing anyone. |
| Aquarius | i'm using it because i've got lotsa people there to talk and today it's the only messenger known by me that allows me to voicechat. |
| ivansorokin | "Anything can become not free one day." -- not really, I hope software under GPL never will become not free. |
| ivansorokin | "i'm using it because i've got lotsa people there to talk and today it's the only messenger known by me that allows me to voicechat." -- i understand |
| ivansorokin | let's change the topic |
| ivansorokin | could somebody explain me why pulseaudio is neccessary? Why not use ALSA directly? |
| jumpship | ivansorokin: if you really want to use oneric, I'd wait a few days (nov 1st) trinity went into freeze and tim is prob building pkgs as we speak |
| ivansorokin | ok |
| Aquarius | in my case i had to install it, 'cause also couldn't take on multistreaming audio. Something was taking over always. |
| Aquarius | PulseAudio does it better. |
| ivansorokin | will they be available in PPA? |
| Aquarius | meaning... i would play music for instance in a player and i'd try using skype at the same time or playing youtube/flash video, and it would jam |
| Aquarius | some people are content with ALSA only. |
| ivansorokin | what is "multistreaming audio"? |
| Aquarius | when you have multiple sources, not just one |
| ivansorokin | "would play music for instance in a player and i'd try using skype at the same time or playing youtube/flash video, and it would jam" -- really? |
| Aquarius | example: skype audio + flash audio/video, music player etc |
| Aquarius | yes. That's my prob. |
| Aquarius | and it's still there, and i wanna kill it once and for all. |
| ivansorokin | I have see this on my PC. |
| Aquarius | but it's better now. Pulse does its magic. |
| Aquarius | you mean you've experienced the same? |
| ivansorokin | never |
| jumpship | it hadware dependant |
| Aquarius | yep, exactly jumpship |
| jumpship | it's hardware dependant |
| jumpship | some hardware can mix |
| Aquarius | it's probably my hardware not complying entirely with the software |
| jumpship | alsa is supposed to use it's dmix plugin when the hardware can't, but it's been iffy for me |
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| ivansorokin | to be honest, I experienced the opposite. When pulseaudio daemon was running sound didn't work. Even the programs that use ALSA directly. |
| Aquarius | i had the same |
| Aquarius | there was no sound at all |
| Aquarius | jumpship helped me. You can make it work, but it may take shitloads of time... |
| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | what is this? |
| Aquarius | many people tend to have problems with pulse, which is why most of them are not really fond of it. You can see here and there on the web that pulseaudio is damn shit and so on |
| Aquarius | hey MutantTurkey |
| Aquarius | :) |
| jumpship | alsa is just a mess, I spent a lot of time trying to understand, and I still don't |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | alsa isn't so bad:P |
| MutantTurkey | alsa is okay, the random other systems are bad |
| jumpship | Have you seen the docs? |
| MutantTurkey | see this |
| MutantTurkey | http://blogs.adobe.com/penguinswf/files/penguinswf/linuxaudio.png |
| jumpship | I hate the sound servers too, they only exist because of problems with alsa |
| ivansorokin | jumpship, i agree that alsa is the mess too |
| Aquarius | it's not optimized for many devices yet. |
| ivansorokin | but i'm not sure one's can create a working system on top of buggy |
| jumpship | well, it's more of a, if alsa was better, things could be cleaner |
| Aquarius | so yeah.. either you're lucky or you work your ass off to make it function at its best. |
| jumpship | I'd rather just see all programs use jack and jack use hardware direct, but dreaming it don't make it happen |
| ivansorokin | jack has cleaner api tha alsa? |
| ivansorokin | *than |
| jumpship | I don't know about the programming end, I like jack from a user end |
| ivansorokin | why it is better from user end? |
| Aquarius | because he likes it more :) |
| Aquarius | it suits his personal needs |
| ivansorokin | and ALSA don't? |
| jumpship | I just like being able to route audio on the fly |
| jumpship | alsa and jack are different animals, alsa is low level |
| ivansorokin | a bad thing is that everybody what one working api, not a 3 buggy ones |
| MutantTurkey | JACK is where its at |
| MutantTurkey | get on it. |
| MutantTurkey | it's the best in my opinion |
| MutantTurkey | especially for routing needs. |
| MutantTurkey | but then again, if you're not mixing music you don't need it |
| MutantTurkey | pulse is stepping up, but it still stinks |
| ivansorokin | i don't use routing really,and i'm really don't know why i need it =) |
| MutantTurkey | EXACTLY |
| MutantTurkey | thats why we don't need all these layers |
| MutantTurkey | 1st of all, OSS needs to go away. it's been dead for a long time AFAIK |
| ivansorokin | i heard OSS is used in FreeBSD |
| MutantTurkey | it should just be ALSA - {jackd, pulseaudio} - {gstreamer,phonon} |
| MutantTurkey | thats it |
| MutantTurkey | left is lower |
| ivansorokin | so it is the only one portable interface |
| MutantTurkey | i hate gstreamer and phonon but still |
| MutantTurkey | its good for programmers that dont want to deal with it |
| Aquarius | MutantTurkey, is Konqueror gonna be fixed in 3.5.13? |
| ivansorokin | gstreamer and phonon are not similar to DirectShow, which I hate with passion |
| MutantTurkey | yes its fixed |
| MutantTurkey | Aquarius: if you are talking about the certs |
| MutantTurkey | Aquarius: right now we are in a complete code freeze though |
| ivansorokin | guys, where could i find trinity changelog? I don't see it on a website |
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| MutantTurkey | ivansorokin: yes |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/patches/ |
| MutantTurkey | but that is a LONG list |
| MutantTurkey | and there is just mostly fixes and commits there |
| MutantTurkey | we aren't so organized :P |
| MutantTurkey | next release we will have a better log |
| KingSphinx | Did I miss something? |
| MutantTurkey | we are working on one in the wiki |
| MutantTurkey | www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13 |
| ivansorokin | oh, this is commit list |
| MutantTurkey | that is still incomplete |
| MutantTurkey | see the wiki ling |
| ivansorokin | i means something like release notes |
| MutantTurkey | its still not finished |
| MutantTurkey | yes thats it |
| MutantTurkey | needs work |
| * MutantTurkey is supposed to be doing it :x | |
| ivansorokin | yes, wiki this is relevant. Thanks! |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | anyway I gotta go guys |
| MutantTurkey | i'll be back later |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| Aquarius | see ya |
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| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: the other day you said "Ah, I thought it was done early" it is done. the packages are just being built. due nov 1 |
| KingSphinx | Just over a day from now... :D |
| MutantTurkey | x`yes |
| MutantTurkey | gotta get packages done :x |
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| chemtail | Is extroot supposed to be working in trunk? |
| chemtail | I'm using the standard setup through /etc/fstab as recommended in the howto, with an ext4 partition that mounts fine manually, but it ain't working. |
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| Aquarius | ahoy there, pardners |
| MutantTurkey | ahoy |
| MutantTurkey | T minus 24 hours |
| Aquarius | how's it kicking Mutant? |
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| Aquarius | looking forward to fixed Konqueror :) |
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| chemtail | Oh, lord.. asking openwrt questions in the trinity desktop channel. |
| chemtail | sry guise :p |
| KingSphinx | And that is why you keep track of what channel you're in. :P |
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| MutantTurkey | where is tim RAHH! |
| KingSphinx | Major issues? |
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| MobileTurkey | KingSphinx: no no no |
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| MobileTurkey | just need to talk about the kgtk wrapper :P |
| KingSphinx | Is that the thing that allows GTK apps to use Trinity's "open files" dialog? |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| MobileTurkey | except I am doing work on the GTK3 bit |
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| Z_God | Aquarius: you still managed to try those options? |
| Aquarius | hey Z_God |
| Aquarius | sorry, just came back |
| Z_God | np |
| Aquarius | no man.. if you mean that app i couldn't download it, the link is dead |
| Z_God | no, I mean the kicker options you found in svn |
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| Aquarius | ah..... not really... frankly to say man i don't know how to do it... |
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| Z_God | Aquarius: search for this file in your .kde3 or .trinity directory |
| Z_God | I think it was taskbarrc |
| Z_God | open it in a texteditor |
| Aquarius | aha |
| Z_God | and it should be more obvious how to change options |
| Z_God | not all options in it actually have a UI to change them |
| Z_God | and some you may even had to add yourself |
| Aquarius | i got it |
| Aquarius | interesting, i'll try |
| Aquarius | for now i have another prob.. featuring skype again.. i can't host the calls |
| Aquarius | i mean technically i can, but sounds gets very cheesy... it's like breaking up badly.. however, the others hear me well. |
| Aquarius | i wonder how can i solve that... |
| Z_God | use a decent program to host calls I'd say.... |
| Z_God | it's obviously a problem with skype itself, and it's closed source |
| Z_God | if you need something easy, I would advice Google+ for now |
| Z_God | not free either, but at least it works |
| Aquarius | probably... |
| Aquarius | the thing is.. i don't care for skype that much... but the people i know use it... |
| Aquarius | so what do i do, tell them all to use Google+ instead just because i'm getting problems with running skype on linux? |
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| A | Aquarius: yes tell them that. |
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| Aquarius | haha |
| Aquarius | great... |
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| Aquarius | but other people don't have problems with skype on linux... even in Debian... |
| Aquarius | damn... i think i'll just have to keep on fidgeting with pulseaudio settings.. |
| MutantTurkey | oh pulse? |
| MutantTurkey | blech |
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| Aquarius | yep... |
| Aquarius | i had no other choice, with only ALSA my audio acts a way too funny |
| Aquarius | with Pulse it's so-so, but better. |
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| Aquarius | as jumpship has already stated, it's hardware dependant. |
| Aquarius | i dunno about Ubuntu though... but in Debian i'm definitely having some audio probs. |
| Aquarius | anyhow, that doesn't make my move to Ubuntu or any other linux based OS. I love Debian. |
| Aquarius | but audio apps in Debian have to be improved nevertheless. |
| Aquarius | first time i had probs with all the audio sources... i couldn't play audio in player and on youtube at the same time, there were taking over each other. |
| Aquarius | now it's fine. |
| Aquarius | but skype is still acting funny. |
| Aquarius | but nothing jams it at least. |
| Z_God | skype never works properly |
| Z_God | it's protocol is flawed in many ways |
| Aquarius | i see... |
| Aquarius | what problems did you have? |
| Z_God | crap quality, messages do not arrive half of the time |
| Z_God | and of course it uses its dirty routing tricks |
| Aquarius | didn't have the above said probs. |
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| Z_God | but both the software is not free |
| Z_God | and the network is completely closed |
| Z_God | even when you want to phone other voip phones, you need to pay |
| Z_God | I refuse to use software which intentionally limits its users, just to get more money |
| Aquarius | the thing is, skype was intended not to VoIP primarily but to voicechat within skype network as such. As for those extra features - nobody's pushing you to use them, after all they were never available for free in skype, so why to bring it up... i'm not speaking in favour of skype right now, i'm just pointing out the possible irrelevance of the remark given.. |
| Aquarius | as for basic chat and voicechat it's been handling it pretty much fine |
| Aquarius | for free |
| Aquarius | and you don't have to buy skype initially to make it work, to enter any serials and stuff like that. |
| Aquarius | but i'm not arguing on the point that it's a shitty software. Perhaps it is. But if anything people all around the world have been using skype mostly in order to voicechat.. so.. conclusions.. |
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| rzs19 | hello |
| rzs19 | i'am writing a small dock for tde, with superkaramba. http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/api.html#robo45 - createBackgroundImage. At first 6 Arguments and a little bit down, there stands 4 Arguments. Strange? |
| rzs19 | well so i mus tcreate an image an resize the image, to get something like the background. |
| Z_God | Aquarius: it has artificial limitations put in on purpose |
| Z_God | this is enough reason for me to avoid it ;) |
| Z_God | and I will recommend friends to do the same |
| Aquarius | i understand) |
| Aquarius | however... when it comes to instant access and easy installation skype is the first thing people know.. most of them at least. Imagine you got a girlfriend from abroad and she wants to talk with you, and she uses only skype and she doesn't know what other software to use... what would you do? Refuse to talk with her? :) |
| Aquarius | thats the problem... |
| Aquarius | i guess you'll just install skype and get it over with :) |
| Z_God | I've had this case |
| Space_Man | rzs19: looks like the API has a typo |
| Z_God | we're using gmail now |
| Space_Man | other functions use long w -- width, long h -- height |
| Z_God | I could have installed skype, but it's so broken anyhow, why bother |
| Z_God | my friend also told me she has loads of problems with it, so I probably just saved us a lot of frustration with that :) |
| Z_God | I have people asking me often enough about an alternative for skype to know how broken it is |
| rzs19 | yep i have tested it, it doesnt work, it needs only 4 arguments and not 6(but without width and height it makes no sense). |
| rzs19 | tomorrow comes 3.5.13? *cantwait* :P |
| KingSphinx | I have absolutely no idea how to fix your problem, but it's really nice to see people still developing widgets for SuperKaramba. :) |
| Aquarius | :) |
| rzs19 | well i have seen that all docks are death and the code was a little bit ugly, so i started with my own. |
| KingSphinx | I know SuperKaramba is in KDE 4, but it just seems thrown in as an afterthought. |
| rzs19 | well i have used kde4 for a long time, but its not so powerful like tde/kde 3.5.* |
| KingSphinx | It just seems to fit in better in Trinity IMO. |
| rzs19 | yep, kde 4 has its plasma widget. |
| rzs19 | does any one use the universal sidebar? |
| KingSphinx | Also, while Plasma is very extensible, I don't like how it tries to manage the *entire* desktop... if one thing goes wrong, the entire desktop crashes. It also goes against the UNIX philosophy of having one application doing one thing well. |
| rzs19 | kde 4 is too heavy, it has not too less buttons to manage settings and needs too much ressources. |
| rzs19 | and i don't like the "maybe we should drop x11 and only start using wayland" statement. |
| KingSphinx | Tell me about it... Trinity uses only half the RAM KDE 4 does, and that's from the live CD. |
| rzs19 | trinity uses just 1/3 from kde4 |
| rzs19 | i love konqueror and kparts, one thing is missing, splitting in konsole like splitting in konqueror. |
| rzs19 | and sorry for my bad english, but i don't talk soo much - normaly. |
| KingSphinx | If people really do start dropping X11 for Wayland, what would happen to Trinity? |
| rzs19 | will trinity be ported completely to qt4, or will there be a qt3 fork? |
| KingSphinx | Trinity is a Qt3 fork |
| rzs19 | i cant life wihtout X11. my desktop environment is running inside an linux container(lxc). i use xdmcp to connect, so i need xdmcp, indirect rendering and xdm chooser. |
| rzs19 | pulseadui streams the sound out of it :) |
| rzs19 | so i can clone the container and simulate upgrades, or use different distributions, without overhead - funky cool :D |
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| rzs19 | is there not tqt(or how its called) between, so it would compile with qt3, or qt4? i think it was "just" a kde 3.5 fork? it also forked qt3? |
| KingSphinx | Mhm, TQt is a fork of Qt3, with plans to integrate Qt4 support once development stops on Qt4 |
| rzs19 | okay :) |
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| Z_God | it's not fully accurate |
| Z_God | there is no Qt3 fork |
| Z_God | Trinity incorporates Qt3 and is the only path for Qt3 updates |
| Z_God | TQt is a layer between software and Qt to allow compilation and linking against different Qt versions |
| Z_God | it was originally meant to support porting Trinity to Qt4, but likely it will shift towards Qt4 integration instead (with the core still using Qt3) |
| rzs19 | well, it seem that qt4 is not realy ready to use... |
| Z_God | yes, there are performance issues |
| Z_God | btw. there is no sense in supporting Qt4 when its development stops |
| Z_God | it would be more useful to consider Qt5 support if it fixes the performance problems |
| rzs19 | or maybe i need a octocore cpu? |
| rzs19 | maybe we should buy three computers, install MOSIX and hope it will give enough performance :P |
| Z_God | for smaller software it works ok |
| Z_God | but not for a full DE somehow |
| Z_God | although I understand KDE4 has ok performance now |
| Z_God | on modern hardware |
| rzs19 | what is modern? is my dual core with 4 gb ram not enough? |
| rzs19 | its a damn desktop and not a blown up 3d shooter. |
| rzs19 | 4.6.5 was okay, with 4.7.x i got in trouble... |
| rzs19 | take KDe 4.x scroll in konsole, its slow. |
| rzs19 | kate syntax highlighting is extreme slow. ocular needs damn much ram. |
| rzs19 | write a long sql query into kate from kde 4. |
| rzs19 | there is so much that does not work. |
| rzs19 | well, now i can use tde, there is no reason for me, to switch back to kde4. |
| rzs19 | ähm does somebody know how i can configure konqueror to show always detailed view? |
| Z_God | I would expect the slow display issue to be GPU related |
| Z_God | I barely tested 4.x myself, so I don't really know how it's now to be honest |
| rzs19 | i have tried, nvidia, ati, intel. with intel it worked nice, ati too, but it needs to much ram. |
| Z_God | ok, my experience was limited to intel |
| rzs19 | ad i dont like strigi, nepomuk, you can disable it, but not everything will work. |
| Z_God | and only versions |
| rzs19 | with out it* |
| Z_God | older^ |
| Z_God | ok |
| rzs19 | 4.6.5 was okay, but kate and konsole - this performance issues are not nice. |
| KingSphinx | And that's why Trinity exists. :D |
| rzs19 | and when kde 4 was fast it wouldnt change much... tde != kde4... |
| Space_Man | rzs19: K menu / System settings / Default applications / File associations / Inode / Directory / |
| rzs19 | and i can not understand ppl moving from kde to xfce, i don't the gtk dialogs. |
| Space_Man | and move the detailed list view to the top |
| rzs19 | okay, i have tried it with profiles, but it only works for the current tab. |
| Space_Man | K menu / System settings / Default applications / File associations / Inode / Directory / **Embedding** |
| Z_God | Space_Man: thanks, I needed that as well :) |
| KingSphinx | Well, people are probably ditching KDE for Xfce because they don't know about Trinity... just my guess. |
| Space_Man | :) |
| rzs19 | i was using google chrome and tried to print an image(gtk printing screen), scalled to the whole site, but there was no option. |
| rzs19 | webkit, or gecko would be nice, if i can select it in konqueror. |
| Z_God | rzs19: working on it ;) |
| rzs19 | or konsol as kpart :) |
| rzs19 | great :D |
| Z_God | wish I had more time, but at least it's working what's in svn |
| Z_God | if you have some time to help out, it would be great |
| Aquarius | back here |
| Aquarius | by the way... chromium sucks. |
| KingSphinx | Hey, has there been any progress made on integrating an alternate rendering enging into Konqueror? |
| rzs19 | well, i cannot help with c++ programming, i just can some scripting languages like python, js, php, gambas(long long time ago). but maybe i can make a bank robbery? :D |
| Aquarius | it doesn't work with java scripts well. |
| Aquarius | however, Iceweasel sucks too. It crashes on youtube videos. |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: I managed to get kmozilla running |
| Z_God | but there's still a lot of work left to do |
| Z_God | Aquarius: it shouldn't |
| KingSphinx | :o awesome! Will it be in 3.5.13 or will it have to wait? |
| Aquarius | the most stable browser for Debian is Opera, but it has anti-aliased fonts (i'm using sharpfonts script which didn't affect Opera for some reason) and thus it's its only flaw. |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: won't be |
| Aquarius | Z_God, well, it does by me. |
| rzs19 | maybe the right time to finish learning c++? i have often started, but.. than.. there was allways python, it makes anything too easy... ;) |
| Z_God | Aquarius: check your flash plug-in version |
| Aquarius | Z_God, dunno why, maybe i'm cursed, but i do have some probs with browser too. |
| Aquarius | Z_God, what is to check there? |
| Aquarius | it's icedtea6 or something |
| Z_God | and if you're on a 64-bit bit system, use 64-bit flash |
| Aquarius | so either it works or it doesn;t |
| Aquarius | hm... |
| Aquarius | yes, i am |
| Z_God | that's java |
| Aquarius | you're assuming that i might've been using 32-bit flash? |
| Z_God | nspluginwrapper sucks |
| Aquarius | yeah, and Konqueror crashes on flash video. |
| Z_God | some distros ship it |
| Z_God | with this wrapper |
| Z_God | for 64-bit browsers |
| Z_God | the native 64-bit flash plug-in sucks less |
| Aquarius | i dunno how to check which version i'm using |
| Z_God | search for the plug-in file on your box |
| Z_God | and do a file on it |
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| Aquarius | how come Opera works perfectly with flash? |
| Aquarius | don't they share the same driver? |
| KingSphinx | Also, did KWin ever do compositing before 3.5.13 or is that new? |
| Z_God | file /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so |
| Z_God | for example |
| Z_God | Aquarius: I guess not |
| Aquarius | so you're saying that Opera has it's own in-built flash thing? |
| Z_God | no, I guess they use the same plug-in |
| Z_God | you can check that |
| Aquarius | ah. |
| Z_God | enter about:plugins |
| Z_God | in both browsers |
| Aquarius | ok |
| Aquarius | copied, where's that pastebox again |
| Z_God | at least to fix most issues, you can go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 |
| Z_God | and turn on the video tag |
| Z_God | it should avoid the flash plug-in when it's not necessary |
| Aquarius | IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea6 1.8.9 (6b18-1.8.9-0.1~squeeze1)) |
| Aquarius | The IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea6 1.8.9 (6b18-1.8.9-0.1~squeeze1)) executes Java applets. |
| Aquarius | Shockwave Flash |
| Aquarius | Shockwave Flash 11.0 r1 |
| Aquarius | Description: Shockwave Flash 11.0 r1 |
| Aquarius | /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so |
| Z_God | check whether that lib is 64-bit |
| Aquarius | ok |
| Aquarius | what do you mean by "do a file on it"? |
| Z_God | like I wrote ;) |
| Z_God | file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so |
| Aquarius | i found it, but i dunno how to check |
| Z_God | ah sorry |
| Z_God | I mean you have to execute that in a konsole |
| Aquarius | hm. |
| Aquarius | so i have to type "file flash-mozilla.so"? :) |
| Z_God | the file command displays all kinds of useful info about a file |
| Aquarius | ok. |
| Z_God | is that's the path to the file, it should work |
| Z_God | if* |
| Aquarius | root@aquarius:~# file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ |
| Aquarius | /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/: directory |
| Aquarius | :) |
| Aquarius | that's what it does basically :) |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | now do it on the lib |
| Aquarius | ah |
| Aquarius | damn |
| Aquarius | yes :) i missed it.. |
| Z_God | it works on all kinds of files |
| Aquarius | thanks for letting know :) |
| Aquarius | root@aquarius:~# file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so |
| Aquarius | /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so' |
| Aquarius | :) |
| Z_God | yeah, just follow the links ;) |
| Aquarius | did it on second one too. Same thing. |
| Aquarius | ah |
| Aquarius | no |
| Aquarius | it changes.. hang on.. |
| Aquarius | found. |
| Aquarius | 64 bit. |
| Z_God | ok |
| Aquarius | root@aquarius:~# file /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so |
| Aquarius | /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped |
| Z_God | that one should be reasonably stable |
| Z_God | does it regularly crash? |
| Aquarius | well, Iceweasel crashes on youtube and displays some scripts incorrectly. Chromium never crashes on it, but displays some scripts incorrectly, like on playforia.com (i play pool there). Opera does all the job perfectly with no flaws at all. |
| Aquarius | Iceweasel just closes, it doesn't bring errors. |
| Z_God | maybe you could start iceweasel from a konsole or later even gdb and reproduce the crash |
| Aquarius | hm... to see what exactly happens? |
| Z_God | that should give more info |
| Z_God | yes |
| Aquarius | ok, let's stry. |
| Aquarius | erm.. how do i do that and what's gdb? :) |
| Z_God | I would try without first |
| Aquarius | well.. how do i run it from terminal? |
| Aquarius | i just entered the name there, but nothing happened. Should i specify the exect location? |
| Aquarius | exact* |
| Z_God | no |
| Z_God | it should work |
| Z_God | if it fails, you get an error |
| Z_God | like command not found |
| Aquarius | hm |
| Aquarius | no protocol specified it says |
| Z_God | you just type iceweasel? |
| Aquarius | it's not Alt+F2 thing. It's terminal. |
| Aquarius | yep. |
| Z_God | and it prints this? |
| Aquarius | exactly. |
| Aquarius | but.. |
| Aquarius | .it's root terminal |
| Z_God | how come? |
| Aquarius | because i use root terminal usually. |
| Aquarius | let me use konsole |
| Z_God | you should never do that... |
| Aquarius | i know, but i'm tired of seeing "are you root?" |
| Z_God | you don't see that with normal applications |
| Z_God | only with system administration |
| Aquarius | i ran iceweasel from Konsole. Worked. |
| Aquarius | now to youtube.. |
| Z_God | make it crash now yep ;) |
| Aquarius | crap..it doesn't crash now.. |
| Aquarius | but i now it will next time when i'm not tracking it. |
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| Z_God | hope you can reproduce the crash now |
| Z_God | otherwise, it can also be interesting to look at the file .xsession-errors after a crash |
| Aquarius | maybe it's there still. |
| Aquarius | let me look it up |
| Z_God | I guess it's not so easy to find now |
| Z_God | I have to go to bed here |
| Aquarius | sure, see you later |
| Aquarius | thanks for assistance |
| Z_God | np :) |
| Z_God | I hope you can still look at those kicker options |
| Z_God | I can imagine you need to study that file a bit, but then it should work |
| Z_God | good night all! |
| Aquarius | sure, i'll try it out |
| Aquarius | night-night |
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| rzs19 | gn8 :) |
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| KingSphinx | Just a few more hours! :D |
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| KingSphinx | Was the "deep buttons" thing a last-minute addition? I have a feeling I know who's responsible for that feature... :P |
| MutantTurkey | no it's been around |
| MutantTurkey | why/ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | it's been around afaik |
| KingSphinx | Lol, I remember that Aquarius has been wondering how to activate something in Kicker that had been missing for a while; namely, the ability to get the window tabe in Kicker to have that "pressed-in" look instead of just bolding the text of the currently active window. |
| Aquarius | exactly |
| KingSphinx | *tabs |
| MutantTurkey | Aquarius: deep buttons! |
| MutantTurkey | thats it |
| Aquarius | yep :) |
| MutantTurkey | word |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: so tomorrow is the big day? |
| KingSphinx | I guess so |
| MutantTurkey | yeah... |
| Aquarius | so what about buttons, huh? |
| Aquarius | why did you bring it up? |
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| KingSphinx | Nah, just thought I'd known who was the inspiration for having it re-implemented. |
| Aquarius | ah |
| Aquarius | yeah, it'd be a good thing. |
| Aquarius | i think even though i was the one who brought it up i'll be nevertheless not the only one who puts thumbs up in the end as it's done |
| Aquarius | that's for sure. |
| KingSphinx | Also, I've noted that it can now "be installed alongside KDE 4.x with few problems" instead of "no problems"... |
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| KingSphinx | MutantTurkey: Unreliable connection? |
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| Z_God | I think the topic is outdated |
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| Z_God | I just turned on this feature Aquarius was playing with |
| Z_God | I don't know yet if I like it or not |
| Z_God | http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TnLKfc3YvRc/Tq_qh63_bAI/AAAAAAAAAfQ/q2I6E4UHIiQ/s800/drawbuttons.png |
| KingSphinx | Is it enable-able through a regular menu or do you really have to tinker with kicker.kcfg? |
| KingSphinx | er, taskbar.kcfg |
| Z_God | ktaskbarrc yep |
| Z_God | just add two lines |
| Z_God | [Appearance] & below that DrawButtons=true |
| Z_God | it's working on 3.5.11 at least |
| KingSphinx | BTW, are the release repos up yet or are you still on nightlies? |
| Z_God | I'm still on oldstable for lucid right now ;) |
| Z_God | unfortunately, I cannot easily update here, stupid data limits |
| KingSphinx | Really? Well, that would explain the K menu instead of the T menu |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | I'll probably update this weekend if there will be a lucid version |
| Z_God | from 3.5.11 to 3.5.13, it'll be interesting :) |
| KingSphinx | Lucid never did get an update to 3.5.12, did it? |
| Z_God | nope, only nightlies |
| Z_God | which I didn't use |
| Z_God | I was running those only in a VM for testing & development |
| KingSphinx | I'm also sort of surprised to find that there won't be a Live CD of 3.5.13... I was kinda expecting one so I could reinstall Oneiric with Trinity just to be sure that KDE 4 isn't installed on my computer. |
| Z_God | there will be a live cd |
| Z_God | but not on the release day |
| Z_God | there was just not enough time |
| Z_God | at least that's how I understood it |
| Z_God | if you don't want another DE, just do a commandline only install, add the trinity repos and install trinity with the instructions |
| Z_God | that's how I tend to do it, it was even possible to install natty and put trinity 3.5.12 (for maverick) on in that way |
| KingSphinx | Not exactly an easy option for me, my wireless doesn't work OOB with any distribution save for Fedora, for some reason. |
| Z_God | yes, you need to install with a wire basically ... |
| Z_God | what kind of wifi chipset do you have? |
| KingSphinx | I'm also noted how, with 3.5.12, the release notes say it can be installed alongside KDE 4 with no problems. 3.5.13, on the other hand, says "few problems" instead. Hmm.... |
| KingSphinx | Broadcom B4318, I think. |
| Z_God | there were always a few problems ;) |
| Z_God | it seems someone did build a live-cd for fedora |
| Z_God | so you could use that to chroot into a ubuntu commandline system & add trinity to it ;) |
| KingSphinx | Someone made a Fedora build of Trinity? |
| Z_God | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3267 |
| KingSphinx | And here I thought it would be impossible because RedHat/Fedora don't allow installation in /opt |
| Z_God | I guess that would make it hard to get it included in the official repos |
| Z_God | but it doesn't make a 3rd-party repos impossible ;) |
| KingSphinx | Heck, the /opt issue is half the reason I distro-hopped back to *buntu (I didn't think anyone could get Trinity ported to Fedora... way to be proven wrong...) |
| Z_God | it makes sense imo to avoid putting stuff in /opt for the official repositories |
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| MutantTurkey | Z_God: /opt is good for things that are messy |
| MutantTurkey | especially when you have 2 versions of a product like kde3/kde4 |
| Z_God | and you want to avoid messy stuff in your main repository |
| MutantTurkey | I tend to agree though, they're a bit annoying |
| MutantTurkey | righ |
| MutantTurkey | I use the /opt/trinity because it helps keep it self contained as well |
| Z_God | yes, for trinity it is definitely appropriate for now |
| MutantTurkey | rkight |
| Z_God | but I understand why fedora doesn't accept things like that |
| MutantTurkey | holy cow! Francois built a livecd? |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: I dunno, "policy" |
| MutantTurkey | its probably not a hard rule though |
| Z_God | I think there would be bigger problems getting trinity in right now anyhow |
| MutantTurkey | if you explained it to them, i bet they'ed at least hear you out |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| Z_God | 3rd party repos seems the best option for now |
| Z_God | I wonder when the site will be updated |
| MutantTurkey | where it is in the file system is pointless to deal with |
| Z_God | then the news can hit slashdot, etc. :) |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: I think tim is probably running around in a very hectic manner |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: I will send it off to h-open as well |
| MutantTurkey | as well as post it on reddit |
| Z_God | sounds good |
| MutantTurkey | do you submit things to slashdot? |
| Z_God | nope |
| Z_God | but if nobody else does, I can try |
| MutantTurkey | I mean, is it user submitted? |
| Z_God | most of the time, yes it seems |
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| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | well I'm off to make lunch and such |
| Z_God | have a good lunch! |
| MutantTurkey | thanks:) |
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| MutantTurkey | that was quite good |
| l0ner_away | what?? |
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| MutantTurkey | lunch |
| MutantTurkey | had chilli and cornbread |
| l0ner | nice |
| l0ner | i forgot when i had mine |
| l0ner | but it's +-19:00 where I live |
| l0ner | and I'm beggining to think about dinner |
| l0ner | anyone here using arch?? |
| l0ner | and maybe familiar with arts? |
| MutantTurkey | I love arch |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | arts? as in the sound daemon? |
| l0ner | I moved from gentoo to arch |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | excellent! |
| MutantTurkey | arch is better imho :P |
| l0ner | right now it's true |
| l0ner | gentoo is doing some strange things right now |
| MutantTurkey | Arch is rock solid |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | will there be new trinity packages for arch? |
| l0ner | maybe for kdemultimedia and oher things? |
| l0ner | it's kinda annoying using kdemod3... which don't work as it should |
| MutantTurkey | kdemod3 is terrible i think |
| MutantTurkey | I actually don't have packages made for arch |
| MutantTurkey | I have been quite busy running around fixing bugs and such |
| l0ner | maunal build? or aur? |
| MutantTurkey | I havent made up packages builds |
| MutantTurkey | manual build will work OK |
| l0ner | i'll wait |
| MutantTurkey | AUR isn't made yet |
| l0ner | i'll wait for aur |
| MutantTurkey | its a PITA and I don't have any tarballs to work with yet |
| l0ner | I don't want to mess with autoconf builds |
| MutantTurkey | its cmake now. |
| l0ner | everything? i pulled code from svn today and some components are still handled by automake |
| l0ner | like kdemultimedia which I need |
| MutantTurkey | some yes |
| MutantTurkey | kdemultimedia |
| MutantTurkey | autoconf is pretty simple though |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/HowToBuild |
| MutantTurkey | check that |
| l0ner | read it something like 20 times tday |
| MutantTurkey | "make -f admin/Makefile.common " |
| MutantTurkey | okay :p |
| MutantTurkey | that is typicall all you have to do |
| l0ner | and autoconf just don't want to work for me |
| l0ner | i dunno why |
| MutantTurkey | :\ |
| MutantTurkey | well I can start looking into archlinux scripts |
| l0ner | maybe because of multilib, maybe because of existing qt4 installation which i need for some apps |
| MutantTurkey | if you would like me to make them |
| l0ner | that would be nice |
| MutantTurkey | I thought Tim was going to release tarballs for the release |
| MutantTurkey | which i think he is... |
| MutantTurkey | so I need to wait until that time |
| l0ner | I'll wait, I don't need to update right now anyway |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | anyway, about arts |
| l0ner | i see there is arts inside kdemulltimedia |
| l0ner | and there is arts inside dependencise |
| l0ner | *dependencies |
| MutantTurkey | :o |
| l0ner | and I'm kinda confused, what is what |
| MutantTurkey | I am not sure |
| MutantTurkey | the one in dependencies is definitely first |
| MutantTurkey | because you need arts to build kdebase etc |
| l0ner | I know, but if the one in the deps is our soundmixerdaemon, what is the one in kdemultimedia? |
| l0ner | a versality multimedia system the consists of various little building |
| l0ner | 3 blocks that you (or your application) can combine in almost arbitrary |
| l0ner | 4 ways to create sound and video processing pipes. |
| l0ner | says README |
| MutantTurkey | no idea :| |
| l0ner | well, maybe Tim will know |
| l0ner | I'm getting feeling that whole trinity sound system needs a through lookup and update... |
| l0ner | since it's pretty archaic right now... compared to pulseaudio for example |
| MutantTurkey | pulse is terrible to though. |
| MutantTurkey | but we should switch |
| l0ner | well, most of problems with pulse comes form misunderstanding what it is |
| l0ner | and how it should be used |
| l0ner | the distro maintainers tend to put it above alsamixer which is a sound mixer by itseld |
| l0ner | and you end up having two mixers in your system, fighting each other for alsa and applications |
| l0ner | in realty it should be alsamixer OR pulse OR arts OR whatever sound mixer you want to use |
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| KingSphinx | Whee, 3.5.13 is out.... and from the looks of it, the repos for it are so swamped that Kubuntu's throwing up errors about no headers or something like that. |
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| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: what? |
| MutantTurkey | oh nice |
| MutantTurkey | no email announcment yet |
| MutantTurkey | emailed h-online |
| KingSphinx | http://pastebin.com/T2ym15tj Here's an example of the errors I get when trying to update my sources |
| MutantTurkey | are you using the 3.5.13 sources now? |
| Z_God | the topic needs to be updated ;) |
| KingSphinx | Mhm, I added the Oneiric repos to sources.list, added the signing key, and ran sudo apt-get update... the last part is where I run into trouble. |
| MutantTurkey | the mirrors will take a few hours to sync i think |
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| Z_God | http://slashdot.org/recent |
| Z_God | I just submitted this to slashdot |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | I sumbitted to hopen alread |
| l0ner | argh... konversation opens links in konqueror... and you don't want to know how this page looks in konqueror... |
| MutantTurkey | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | HOLY CRAP |
| MutantTurkey | it looks like death. |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully we get webkit in the next release |
| l0ner | would be really nice. I'd like to use konqueror as my main web browser |
| l0ner | I configured my desktop to be kinda like macosx, with the main toolbar integrated into top panel |
| KingSphinx | Funny how Trinity Konqueror makes a great file browser, but is almost IE6-level terrible at web browsing; while the current Konqueror makes a great web browser, but a terrible file manager. What happened? |
| l0ner | and I'm tired of applications which don't use that space for their main toolbar (ie all gtk+ apps) |
| l0ner | dunno... time paradox? |
| MutantTurkey | how do you do that? |
| l0ner | I think the best option for trinity would be drop knoqueror ability to be web browser and develop dedicated browser |
| MutantTurkey | integrated toolbar |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: no with webkit all that will be done |
| l0ner | let's hope so |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: actually Konqueror still works great on websites that actually follow standards. |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: rclick on planel -> add new panel and experiment with options |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| l0ner | I don't remember how it's called |
| l0ner | but is really useful on small screens |
| MutantTurkey | I could use your help |
| MutantTurkey | I dont see how to do it |
| l0ner | argh... kdemod3 doesn't allow me to delete it |
| MutantTurkey | :( |
| MutantTurkey | what setting is it? |
| l0ner | no setting, it's one of the dedicated panels, as far as I know |
| MutantTurkey | oh! |
| MutantTurkey | called what though?> |
| MutantTurkey | I dont seem to have it :[ |
| l0ner | arggh |
| l0ner | bad... |
| l0ner | I'll try to discover how it's called, but it could take some time |
| l0ner | brb |
| l0ner | I know!!! |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: rclick on desktop -> Configuration -> Behavior -> Menu of current app (Mac OS) [or something likt that] |
| l0ner | and after it show up, you can add appets to it like to normal panel |
| MutantTurkey | got it |
| MutantTurkey | except it doesn't shot up :[ |
| l0ner | apply, try reloging |
| MutantTurkey | yeah in a bit |
| MutantTurkey | I am watching a show |
| MutantTurkey | dont wantto have to re open it |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | in the meantime i'll download trinity live cd and see if it works there |
| MutantTurkey | where is it |
| l0ner | anyway it should look similiar to this: http://inquistor.info/img/panehje1320174585c.png I added the kmenu, desktop switcher, notifications and clock |
| l0ner | right now I miss only a macos-like dock at the bottom of my screen to complete my osx-like desktop :D |
| MutantTurkey | there are linux docks |
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| Z_God | cześć ;) |
| l0ner | Z_God: a witam ;) |
| Z_God | dziękuję! |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
| MutantTurkey | except it needs a gtk wrapper |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: i know that there are linux docs, but from what I remember they are python based, I don't like apps written in python |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | it needs, but creating one exceeds my programming skills (which are pretty non-existent anyway :P) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | does it need one? |
| MutantTurkey | or does our wrapper just need some work |
| MutantTurkey | our gtkwrapper probably could do it |
| l0ner | i think some work on the existing wrapper whould be fine |
| l0ner | I think so |
| MutantTurkey | yes\ |
| l0ner | aaaargh!! Kview is refusing to zoom in/out |
| l0ner | I'm beggining to seriously consider manual build of newest trinity |
| MutantTurkey | do it |
| MutantTurkey | not difficult |
| MutantTurkey | especially with a newer processer :P |
| l0ner | i have an i3 |
| l0ner | it shouldn't be a problem |
| l0ner | but first I'll try it on vbox, I don't want to mess with my system too much |
| l0ner | oh, another thing that trinity needs: qt4 wrapper. It's annoying to have qt4 apps in totally different style... |
| MutantTurkey | i3 isnt to bad |
| MutantTurkey | I have i5 and its pretty good |
| l0ner | i bought laptop with i3 because it had lower price :P |
| l0ner | and right now I hate it... why, oh why i had chosen a samsung laptop?? |
| l0ner | specs itself aren't bad, but it's samsung |
| l0ner | and it's not really working well with linux |
| MutantTurkey | Lenovo Thinkpad here |
| MutantTurkey | all laptops are similar internal spec wise. all lots of processing power and ram |
| MutantTurkey | its about the build quality i care for |
| l0ner | that's true |
| l0ner | but samsung laptops handle acpi in some obscure way, i had problems with overheating because kernel couldn't comunicate with fan and speed it up -_- |
| l0ner | the situation sholud become better right now, since there is samsung-laptop module in kernel |
| l0ner | too bad it's hard-coded to work only with some models... at least it was when i looked at it |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| MutantTurkey | I love my lappy :) |
| l0ner | i'd like some older laptop, or maybe something from the business-class... they are usually build better than the customer-class ones |
| l0ner | the best would be dell xt2... but the cost too much |
| MutantTurkey | lenovo |
| MutantTurkey | they are built awesome |
| MutantTurkey | and Lenovo sells refurb laptopts |
| l0ner | oh... I didn't know |
| l0ner | i'll look at them :) |
| MutantTurkey | http://outlet.lenovo.com/ |
| MutantTurkey | they are usually quite a bit cheaper |
| l0ner | some time ago I had possibility to work on some older enterprise-class acers... despite being older they were awesome |
| l0ner | thx ;) |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: about dock, http://kooldock.sourceforge.net written for kde3.x |
| l0ner | present in aur |
| l0ner | does not compile tho... |
| MutantTurkey | let me see if i can compile it on ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | thats what I am on right now |
| l0ner | ok |
| MutantTurkey | we could even include it for trinity 3.5.14 if many people like it |
| l0ner | would be nice :D |
| MutantTurkey | that would be cool |
| l0ner | I'm suprised on how easy is to transform trinity into macosx |
| l0ner | dock + icons and you have nearly-complete osx look and feel :D |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | if we have this doc well |
| MutantTurkey | dock' |
| l0ner | yes ;) |
| l0ner | and we could advertise as osx desktop for linux xD |
| l0ner | compete solution |
| l0ner | I found another dock for kde3.2.x http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=6585 |
| MutantTurkey | good work |
| l0ner | txh ;) |
| l0ner | anyway I downloaded latest source for both, and they configure, but do not compile |
| MutantTurkey | my first one wont even configure |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | cant find trinity |
| l0ner | argh |
| MutantTurkey | are you doing just ./configure? |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | well, they are dead projects, so they will need some work |
| l0ner | before they can be compiled without problems on trinity |
| KingSphinx | The miracle of bit rot... |
| l0ner | yep |
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| MutantTurkey | but tim seems quite adept at doing it |
| rzs19 | hello :) |
| MutantTurkey | so I dont think it is to hard |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: hello! |
| rzs19 | has any one upgraded to 3.5.13? |
| MutantTurkey | Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears! |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: yes I am running 3.5.13 |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| l0ner | and if I'm a comrade? :P |
| MutantTurkey | :P I only know a few shakespeare quotes and I dont know any that relate to you l0ner |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: have you upgraded? |
| l0ner | lol xD then You should get to know some of the communist propaganda :P |
| KingSphinx | I would, but the repo mirrors haven't synced yet apparently. |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: Tokra said she was manually going to pull the mirrors |
| KingSphinx | So I just gotta wait a bit longer? |
| MutantTurkey | not sure |
| MutantTurkey | I am actually running the SVN release (which is right now exactly the same as 3.5.13) so I am not sure |
| rzs19 | when i make a dist-upgrade it want only upgrade 12 packages, is this correct, or the mirror not complete? |
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| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: no, atm not. |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: have you been using 3.5.12? |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: looks like at least tokra.lv is up |
| MutantTurkey | http://mirror1.tokra.lv/releases/3.5.13/ |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: sure! :) |
| rzs19 | there i got a 403: http://mirror1.tokra.lv/trinity-v3.5.13/ but maybe dir listening disabled? |
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| MutantTurkey | what is dist-upgrade? is that the regular command? |
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| rzs19 | hmm... |
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| MutantTurkey | rzs19: did you run apt-get update first? :) |
| rzs19 | apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| MutantTurkey | first you need to apt-get update first I think |
| rzs19 | oh wait... something... cool... *search* |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: how much bandwidth do you think a mirror needs? |
| MutantTurkey | I have a 300Gb/month VPS i barely use |
| KingSphinx | No idea, never needed to run a mirror. :P |
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| MutantTurkey | I could use it for anothe trinity mirror. been meaning to set it up lately but havent had the time |
| l0ner | ok guys, I'm going grab some sleep. Tomorrow's school day... |
| MutantTurkey | okay l0ner ttyl |
| MutantTurkey | I'll try and get that dock to compile |
| l0ner | good luck ;) |
| rzs19 | offcourse :) |
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| rzs19 | i will wait... :) |
| rzs19 | damn, i'am hungry, burger king has closed after 20:00 ... i was too long at work... |
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| MutantTurkey | rzs19: bugerking is delicious |
| rzs19 | i know |
| rzs19 | yeah :D but i more like mc donalds :) |
| KingSphinx | I wanted to go to Subway today, but I was too busy... |
| rzs19 | i can eat what i want, i don't got fat. |
| rzs19 | got, get..got get. .whatever |
| MutantTurkey | they just opened a new MC'ds near my house |
| MutantTurkey | its really nice |
| rzs19 | i need to go trough the forest... |
| rzs19 | its dark, cold and maybe my last mc donalds visit ;D |
| rzs19 | where are you all from? |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| MutantTurkey | Philadelphia |
| rzs19 | uh far far away |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner is a comrade, somewhere in russia i think |
| rzs19 | hehe |
| Z_God | I would expect Poland for l0ner actually ;) |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: yourself? |
| rzs19 | originaly from vienna, austria, but now ffm germany... |
| KingSphinx | I can eat a footlong from Subway, while a 6-inch would be enough for most people. Surprisingly, I'm only about 130-135 pounds. |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: I do the 1 foot as well |
| MutantTurkey | doesnt alway seem to be enough :[ |
| KingSphinx | Haha, I know what you mean. Not too often though in my case, the key is in the toppings and bread, not the meat as one might think. |
| MutantTurkey | its all about the toppings |
| rzs19 | i'am too lazy to cook, but i'am hungry, damn :/ |
| KingSphinx | Also, rzs19, I'm from North Carolina. Quite a nice state, has a bit of everything. |
| MutantTurkey | north carolina++ |
| MutantTurkey | well I only have driven through it, but nice enough place |
| MutantTurkey | stopped at a waffle house if i recall. |
| MutantTurkey | any redditors here? upvote my post http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/lwozj/trinity_desktop_environment_3513_released/ |
| rzs19 | i ... need a .. hmm yeah i need a rich banker girl, with a nice cook :D |
| MutantTurkey | hah |
| MutantTurkey | I like to cook, my girlfriend doesnt cook at all, so I am the main cook |
| rzs19 | do you want to cook for me? :D |
| KingSphinx | I've only eaten at a Waffle House once. It was three in the morning, and me and a few friends had just left the Longbranch (first time clubbing). Really good stuff. |
| MutantTurkey | not bad for a fast food breakfest joint |
| MutantTurkey | also, tim just sent out the announce email |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: did you see that Francois made a liveCD? I wonder where it is |
| KingSphinx | I think I heard something of that nature, but I have no clue where the ISO would be. |
| MutantTurkey | he posted on the ML that he created it. I know tim said he was willing to upload it so we'll see |
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| Z_God | is there already smth on Google+ or Facebook about Trinity? |
| MutantTurkey | Not sure |
| MutantTurkey | like a facebook group for Trinity? |
| MutantTurkey | I could create one. |
| KingSphinx | Dunno about Google+, but there's nothing about it on Facebook. |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: yep, smth like that |
| Z_God | if you could create one, that would be good |
| MutantTurkey | like a "page" |
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| MutantTurkey | going to go relax for a bit |
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| Z_God | http://www.osnews.com/story/25283/KDE_3_5_Fork_Trinity_Releases_First_Major_Update |
| MutantTurkey | thats incorrect but who cares |
| KingSphinx | Isn't this the third major update? |
| Z_God | the other ones were not so major |
| Z_God | I think :P |
| Z_God | I wrote it like that to make it more headline news ;) |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | the other ones were major :p |
| MutantTurkey | oh well |
| KingSphinx | I'd prefer it be more accurate, but at least it gets the point across. |
| Z_God | I didn't see them on any news site |
| MutantTurkey | I will post a comment |
| MutantTurkey | did anyone see the new gmail interface? |
| MutantTurkey | its nice |
| Z_God | I'm phoning through gmail right now |
| Z_God | but I don't see it |
| MutantTurkey | I emailed them |
| MutantTurkey | or posted saying it was incorrect |
| MutantTurkey | can you change the slashdot thing? |
| MutantTurkey | like edit it? |
| Z_God | I don't think so, but you can also submit the same news |
| Z_God | more submissions of the same thing doesn't seem bad |
| MutantTurkey | i mean edit it |
| MutantTurkey | okay submit it again... |
| Z_God | but I wonder why the previous releases weren't on news sites |
| Z_God | I think it's the prime way to attract developers |
| MutantTurkey | werent on news sites? |
| MutantTurkey | because Tim isn't uh... "media" minded |
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| MutantTurkey | he is an excellent coder and leader, but when it comes to social networking, he is not really doing it |
| KingSphinx | Speaking of Tim, where the heck has he been? All that's here is his bot... |
| MutantTurkey | I know... |
| MutantTurkey | well thats the chat log |
| MutantTurkey | havent seen him in 4+ days. |
| MutantTurkey | he mentioned he was busy with work |
| KingSphinx | And the repos are still not up-to-date. >_>; |
| MutantTurkey | relaxx |
| MutantTurkey | usually takes a bit |
| MutantTurkey | though we should have done this all before |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: any other linux-ey websites |
| MutantTurkey | lwn.net? |
| MutantTurkey | to submit to i mena |
| Z_God | maybe digg |
| Z_God | I'm still on the phone, so I'm a bit slow... |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | also are the mirrors up yet? |
| KingSphinx | Nope, still getting the same errors I was getting earlier. Ugh, sometimes I wish I weren't so eager to get new stuff straight away. |
| MutantTurkey | have you been using svn? |
| KingSphinx | No, I never have used SVN |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| KingSphinx | I thought of trying the nightlies, but I was sorta scared I'd really break something. ^^; |
| MutantTurkey | that is nightlies |
| MutantTurkey | SVN = nightlies |
| MutantTurkey | pretty seamless upgrade path |
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| edogaa | Hey, so I tried getting trinity through a 3rd party repos on arch, I notice you guys have HAL as a dependency, is that going to be fixed at some point (a move to udev?)? Or did I ask that already, can't recall I just recall wanting to switch to it and asking stuff here. |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | edogaa: yes |
| MutantTurkey | in the next release we will have eliminated HAL |
| edogaa | *nods* |
| edogaa | Hurrah D: |
| MutantTurkey | basically we wanted to wait because for a while things were quite uncertain |
| MutantTurkey | we didn't want to port and then have to port again. now that things have settled on upower, udisks, udev, we are going to have it. |
| MutantTurkey | edogaa: also, what repository is that? kdemod3? |
| rzs19 | devfs, hal, udev... freebsd just has devd.. |
| edogaa | Well, actually I believe so yes? |
| rzs19 | and when udev works, than we got something new! |
| MutantTurkey | thats the problem |
| MutantTurkey | and frankly, hald is still working for me... |
| MutantTurkey | "unmaintainable pile of crap" that works is better than no clear solution |
| MutantTurkey | IMHO they should have just improved Hal and not scrapped it. |
| MutantTurkey | ah well |
| edogaa | Hmmm, from what I read or heard about HALD I Don't think scrapping it was as bad as scrapping an entire DE o.O |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| MutantTurkey | edogaa: I'm an arch fan, do you have a link to that repo? |
| MutantTurkey | quite interested :P |
| MutantTurkey | I know there was some work going on with it, and I myself have been working on PKGBUILDS, but nothing difinitive |
| MutantTurkey | s/difinitve/definitive |
| edogaa | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Binary_Packages_-_From_Trinity_SVN_Code |
| edogaa | too be hoenst, i'm thinking of moving to fedora lol |
| MutantTurkey | that's outdated dang |
| MutantTurkey | well as far as I know |
| MutantTurkey | David Rankin was doing a lot of development on it but got hung up with work |
| MutantTurkey | havent seen him for months |
| edogaa | Ah. |
| MutantTurkey | well now i'm not sure :p |
| MutantTurkey | let me look |
| edogaa | So any issues with 3.5.13 on fedora? :O |
| MutantTurkey | we actually have Francois Andriot working on it |
| MutantTurkey | he has up to date packages as far as I know |
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| edogaa | So, how do you guys get around the whole hal thing? o.o I always thought fedora and ubuntu oneirc dropped it |
| MobileTurkey | we juts host it. |
| MobileTurkey | just host it' |
| edogaa | ah |
| MobileTurkey | we have a hal-trinity package. |
| MobileTurkey | drop in replacement |
| MobileTurkey | works for me |
| MobileTurkey | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/RoadMap vague roadmap |
| MobileTurkey | dunno how accurate that is |
| MobileTurkey | most of this stuff is "ongoing goals" |
| MobileTurkey | HAL is definitely on the list |
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| edogaa | Hmm, Fedora 16. |
| MobileTurkey | yes? |
| edogaa | Will it take a while for a release on fedora 16 to come out? I Mean trinity on F16? |
| MobileTurkey | Francois has the packages done I think |
| MobileTurkey | let me find the link |
| MobileTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#redhat |
| MobileTurkey | there are instructions there |
| MobileTurkey | ah thats fedora 15 |
| MobileTurkey | not released yet, 16 that is |
| edogaa | yeah |
| edogaa | I'm wondering about when it is released at the moment lol |
| MobileTurkey | i'd fire off an email to francois |
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| kb9vqf | Hi guys |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: Regarding your media comment (yes I do read the logs! ;-)) feel free to take over there |
| kb9vqf | Every minute I spend dealing with media (social or otherwise) is a minute that I cannot work on improving the Trinity codebase |
| kb9vqf | this is why we have development teams :) |
| MobileTurkey | hey! |
| MobileTurkey | I am |
| MobileTurkey | i've been doing what I can |
| MobileTurkey | i let you do what you do best |
| kb9vqf | sounds good :) |
| MobileTurkey | i have a few Q's |
| kb9vqf | sure |
| MobileTurkey | 1) can I be a mirror from my VPS? i have 300gb of unused bandwidth. |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| MobileTurkey | 2) the releases page on the website doesnt have 3.5.13 |
| kb9vqf | hang on |
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| kb9vqf | link please? |
| MobileTurkey | 3) mirrors currently are whacked out, so i've been telling people to give it 24 hours |
| kb9vqf | yep, that's right |
| MobileTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/releases.php |
| MobileTurkey | also, are there tarballs for the release? |
| kb9vqf | I didn't want to delay the release any further as the tarballs are available today |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | hang on |
| kb9vqf | http://trinitydesktop.org/releases/3.5.13 |
| kb9vqf | forgot to activate the link I guess :-/ |
| MobileTurkey | yes it's not there |
| MobileTurkey | 4) are we getting back on the 6 month cycle? (thats a big question :p |
| MobileTurkey | 5) WOOHOOO! SUCESSFUL RELEASE! you're awesome |
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| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: Releases page is up |
| * kb9vqf thanks MobileTurkey, samelian, Francois Androit, and others for handling some things he didn't have time to do | |
| kb9vqf | Regarding the 6 month cycle: Do you think a HAL replacement can be written in 6 months without my direct involvement? |
| kb9vqf | If so then yes, that is a distinct possibilit |
| kb9vqf | *possibility |
| kb9vqf | also we will need some new artwork for the next release |
| kb9vqf | time to get 3.5.14 Etherpad together I think... :) |
| kb9vqf | BTW the codebase is still frozen until I say otherwise |
| kb9vqf | I'm working on this whole GIT mess at the moment |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: got a post about ARM already |
| kb9vqf | good? bad? indifferent? |
| MobileTurkey | wondering relaly |
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| MobileTurkey | he is exactly the market you are trying to hitr |
| MobileTurkey | "I have a small ARM powered device...." |
| kb9vqf | ah, cool :) |
| kb9vqf | on the ML? |
| MobileTurkey | I said we'll have squeeze for the moment, and it's in the APT repository |
| MobileTurkey | www.osnews.com/comments/25283 |
| MobileTurkey | i've been sort of fielding questions from here. |
| izaki | Hi! Is it possible to make Trinity coexist with KDE5 on a kubuntu installation? I am willing to take a leap of faith but this is also the machine I use to work.... |
| kb9vqf | KDE5? |
| edogaa | KDE5 o.O |
| MobileTurkey | KDE5? |
| edogaa | XD omg, everyone here had the same reaction |
| MobileTurkey | surely you jest. |
| izaki | Bleh, sorry... KDE4... |
| MobileTurkey | izaki: it should be fine to install KDE4 alongside trinity with no problems |
| kb9vqf | it will coexist with KDE4 as long as you don't try to mix applications, such as running TDE apps in a KDE4 session |
| izaki | :D |
| edogaa | Ah yes, how annoying is it to run nautilus by mistake and have the GNOME Desktop overlap your current desktop |
| kb9vqf | (technically the apps will still run but you might get weird behaviour due to the default settings clash) |
| edogaa | in some kind of hideous, bloated slow fashion |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: i've been working on kgtk some more, it's also a total mess. |
| kb9vqf | GTK3? |
| * kb9vqf took one look at Cairo and ran | |
| MobileTurkey | imagine knowing how to use QWERTY keyboards, then learning DVORAK |
| MobileTurkey | its just a totally different approach |
| MobileTurkey | there is not "just replace X with Y" |
| MobileTurkey | it is possible that I could make it use regular old X11 calls though. |
| MobileTurkey | since the GTK drawing scheme is nearly identical to X11's |
| MobileTurkey | any thoughts on that? |
| edogaa | >_> Hmm? WHat. |
| MobileTurkey | edogaa: rewriting our GTK wrapper for GTK3. |
| edogaa | Actually, this looks like one of thosse topics i won't get so I'll just continue string at my download manager to see how far fedora has downloaded lol |
| edogaa | oh |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: also gtk3 apps all crash now. somewhere we are setting the LD PRELOAD to libkgtk2 and that forces any gtk3 app to crash |
| MobileTurkey | no matter what |
| edogaa | You know, I Wonder if gtk apps will look less 'hideous' on trinity than in 4... lol |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: So GTK3 went off the deep end |
| kb9vqf | great :-P |
| MobileTurkey | yeah\ |
| kb9vqf | looks like I might work on the Qt4 integration and start recommending that :-/ |
| kb9vqf | GTK is a bit of a useless pain lately |
| kb9vqf | slow |
| kb9vqf | ugly |
| kb9vqf | clunky |
| kb9vqf | GTK2 looked tons better |
| MobileTurkey | yeah. I liked gtk 1.x |
| Space_Man | kb9vqf: can you update the chan's topic :P |
| MobileTurkey | times change. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 572 filed by contact@philipashmore.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=572 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Problems with KDE Trinity 3.5.13 repositories on Debian Squeeze/Wheezy amd64 |
| * MobileTurkey facepalm | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kb9vqf | |
| edogaa | hmm o.o? y u facepalm D: |
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| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Remind the bug reporter that the binary packages are not yet synced to the mirrors |
| kb9vqf | I did put that info in the annoucement :-P |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey rather |
| edogaa | i wonder if kbfx will still work with it :O |
| edogaa | i never used it, but it looked pretty nifty |
| kb9vqf | kbfx is available and functional AFAIK |
| edogaa | Awesome ;D |
| MobileTurkey | ok |
| MobileTurkey | edogaa: kbfx works i was using it a bi ago |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: hows the bandwidth holding up? |
| MobileTurkey | lots of load? |
| kb9vqf | so far so good |
| kb9vqf | lots of load from the mirror sync still |
| kb9vqf | unfortunately this time around it has to upload something close to 40GB |
| kb9vqf | because of the Fedora/RHEL packages |
| kb9vqf | that's why it's taking so long |
| MobileTurkey | right |
| kb9vqf | for 3.5.14 we should put together a tentative schedule |
| MobileTurkey | next time it would be good to have the mirrors ready first |
| kb9vqf | we need to allow 2 weeks for QA |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| kb9vqf | and another week for mirror sync |
| MobileTurkey | right |
| kb9vqf | and a week for binary builds before that |
| MobileTurkey | or a few days |
| kb9vqf | so we could easily have 1 1/2 months tied up in release duties |
| kb9vqf | leacing 4 1/2 months to hack on Trinity |
| kb9vqf | *leaving |
| kb9vqf | then add the month or so it could take to get GIT all up and running... |
| MobileTurkey | we need to set up some roadmap for the release |
| MobileTurkey | right. |
| kb9vqf | this development window may be rather short :-P |
| MobileTurkey | :x |
| kb9vqf | I'm expecting only 3 months to hack on TDE |
| kb9vqf | so set the goals accordingly |
| kb9vqf | I'm not convinced a 6 month cycle is such a good thing really |
| kb9vqf | we lose 1/5 of the cycle time just in getting ready for release |
| MobileTurkey | with large projects I am |
| MobileTurkey | like LibreOffice or Firefox |
| MobileTurkey | with a small team, without a release team. |
| kb9vqf | Firefox has been...buggy ever since they switched |
| * kb9vqf is undecided | |
| MobileTurkey | read this |
| MobileTurkey | http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#Summary |
| MobileTurkey | that might steer you one way or another |
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| kb9vqf | OK, let's see what we can get done in the 3 month window |
| MobileTurkey | lets see how long git takes :p |
| kb9vqf | I suggest contining to hack on TED while the GIT move is being done |
| kb9vqf | *TDE |
| kb9vqf | e.g. fix bugs |
| kb9vqf | upload the patches to the bugtracker |
| kb9vqf | then we'll have a large import when GIT is running |
| MobileTurkey | that is a good idea |
| kb9vqf | so first step in our roadmap is: I'll get GIT running while everyone else fixes bugs :)) |
| exc_ | hi |
| exc_ | i cannot do apt-get update |
| kb9vqf | mirrors are syncing |
| kb9vqf | could take 24 hours or so |
| exc_ | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian/dists/squeeze/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 cannot be downloaded without referer |
| kb9vqf | sources are available but the binaries are not yet uploaded |
| kb9vqf | *fully uploaded |
| exc_ | thx |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | we have many tens of GB of binary data; that is why the initial upload is taking so long |
| * kb9vqf needs to run | |
| kb9vqf | I will be back later |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: Can you get a timeline template started on the Wiki in the Developer's web? |
| kb9vqf | while I'm gone? |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| kb9vqf | then I can flesh it out a bit when I get back |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
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| KingSphinx | I leave to eat dinner, and the main man himself pops in. :P |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| MobileTurkey | lol:p |
| * MobileTurkey has to let my moms friend barrow my laptop :XXXX | |
| KingSphinx | So 3.5.14 will ditch HAL? |
| MobileTurkey | yes. |
| MobileTurkey | hopefully |
| KingSphinx | To be honest, I never really noticed a difference between HAL and udisks/uwhatever... |
| KingSphinx | I'm sure it's a lot different developer-wise, but user-end experience is about the same for me. |
| exc_ | hal starts longer |
| exc_ | also with hal i was able to configure xorg settings for hotpluggable devices like mouse |
| kb9vqf | 3 months is a bit of a short dev cycle to rip out HAL, but we'll try our hardest |
| exc_ | now i must run script after plugging |
| kb9vqf | HAL is still a nice piece of software |
| exc_ | btw there is no udev on freebsd and other os |
| exc_ | i believe you don't remove hal support completly? |
| kb9vqf | probably not |
| kb9vqf | actually we need to create an interface library |
| kb9vqf | that would allow different backend (HAL, udev, foobar from the future) to be used |
| kb9vqf | *backends |
| kb9vqf | that's why I am concerned about the 3 month development time |
| exc_ | like solid in kde4? |
| kb9vqf | probably, but at a much lower level |
| kb9vqf | solid is anything but solid AFAIK :) |
| kb9vqf | bloaty |
| exc_ | ) |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: I'm back |
| kb9vqf | Wiki link please? |
| MobileTurkey | back too |
| MobileTurkey | sorry an german exchange teacher needed it |
| MobileTurkey | to check her email |
| MobileTurkey | for some reaosn microsoft live kept crashing on linux... |
| MobileTurkey | :) |
| MobileTurkey | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/3_5_14_Roadmap |
| rzs19 | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/08/thoughts-about-kde-plasma-on-non-linux-systems/ *urghs* |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: this is where the wiki fails, multi person editing :p |
| kb9vqf | whoa |
| kb9vqf | oops |
| kb9vqf | let me get a couple thoughts down please :) |
| MobileTurkey | okay:D |
| MobileTurkey | release date for 3.5.14 is May 1st 2012? |
| kb9vqf | Yes, ***tentatively*** |
| MobileTurkey | well of course. |
| kb9vqf | it's not just us devs on this channel :) |
| kb9vqf | don't want to give a wrong impression |
| MobileTurkey | maybe we need #trinity-dev? :p |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | no, I'm just being a bt nitpicky ATM |
| kb9vqf | normally this channel alone is perfectly fine |
| kb9vqf | some users are very interested in release dates, and having one floating around without qualifiers could come back and haunt us, regardless of the channel it was logged in |
| MobileTurkey | understood |
| kb9vqf | let me know when you are done editing the Wiki |
| kb9vqf | so I can take a look at it |
| kb9vqf | grrr...the Fedora/RHEL rsync job messed up and duplicated all the RPM data |
| kb9vqf | that explains why things are taking soooo long to sync :-P |
| kb9vqf | fixed now, but I think the damage is done so to speak |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| MobileTurkey | a few users will just give up after it doesnt initially work |
| MobileTurkey | especially new users |
| kb9vqf | well, we will need to send out another announcement stating that binary packages are now available |
| kb9vqf | hopefully that will limit any damage done in that regard |
| kb9vqf | rzs19: urgh is right |
| MobileTurkey | okay good |
| kb9vqf | KDE4 just keeps getting worse :-/ |
| kb9vqf | and Wayland is just scary |
| rzs19 | well, linux has its ipv6 stack from freebsd, if i remembe right. |
| kb9vqf | Linux could theoretically fragment itself right out of existence on the desktop |
| MobileTurkey | rzs19: I don't think so... it wouldnt make it into the kernel with bsd licensing |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: also, it's already doing that |
| MobileTurkey | Unity is destroying linux |
| kb9vqf | I know |
| kb9vqf | I'm sad |
| MobileTurkey | it doesn't pass the "mom" test. If your mom cant use it, then it's no good. |
| kb9vqf | there aren't any real options out there outside of Linux |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| MobileTurkey | seriously. |
| MobileTurkey | do you think your mom can use Unity or Gnome3? no. KDE4? probably but not well |
| kb9vqf | that's the exact thinking that brought Windows 8 into existence though |
| kb9vqf | and Mac OS |
| rzs19 | hmm, ur right.. license does not match... |
| MobileTurkey | "Shuttleworth is as flexible as a brick wall. He is going to do it his way, even if he crashes and burns his own distro." |
| kb9vqf | both of which are TERRIBLE for developers |
| rzs19 | as i said, last day, wayland is useless for me, i need xdmcp, indirect rendering... |
| kb9vqf | yes, I'm starting to get real ticked at Ubuntu personally |
| kb9vqf | The X server, for all of its faults, is one of Linux's strengths |
| KingSphinx | It's practically bulletproof? |
| MobileTurkey | finally catching arch fever? |
| kb9vqf | Where else can you have transparent networked displays? |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: I agree, except that I think that the network model is outdated |
| exc_ | there is a mess with http headers when downloading debian package: after 3 redirects it got error page with "200 ok" header |
| exc_ | http://dpaste.com/645814/ |
| MobileTurkey | that should be done in module instead of at the core |
| rzs19 | okay is twas based on the bsd api |
| kb9vqf | oh no, Inga reactivated the 404 pages |
| kb9vqf | that's BAD |
| kb9vqf | BAD BAD BAD |
| * kb9vqf goes to deactivate his mirror immediately | |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: what mirrors do we have? |
| KingSphinx | And right as I was about to check to see if the mirrors were up... |
| kb9vqf | ok, his is no longer being cycled in |
| MobileTurkey | I thought inga was our main mirror? |
| kb9vqf | no |
| kb9vqf | he has a lot of bandwidth but he is somewhat unstable |
| kb9vqf | things happen randonly with his mirror |
| MobileTurkey | somehow I always hit ingas whenever I connect to it. |
| kb9vqf | *randomly |
| MobileTurkey | must be |
| kb9vqf | yes, it has high priority due to the badwidth available |
| MobileTurkey | right |
| MobileTurkey | but the stability is an issue |
| kb9vqf | a serious one |
| KingSphinx | :o none of the mirrors crashed! |
| kb9vqf | I thought he had it fixed |
| rzs19 | ppl often thing, vnc, rdp and x11 is the same, or do the same things... |
| kb9vqf | by no means! |
| kb9vqf | x11 really is the best, but it is the least portable |
| rzs19 | x11 needs some updates, i think... |
| kb9vqf | vnc is slow and does not support certain things, and rdp...well.... |
| * Z_God loves remote X11 | |
| MobileTurkey | remote X11 sucks for me |
| MobileTurkey | it never works well with GTK or QT |
| Z_God | it works great with Qt3 |
| MobileTurkey | especiall when there is any sort of lag |
| rzs19 | x11, you can use xinerama, with vnc not, rdp has multihead, in newer specs, so i think? |
| MobileTurkey | locally it's awesome though |
| rzs19 | i can use opengl with indirect rendering :) |
| rzs19 | i can display seperate application and not only the whole desktop... |
| Z_God | it's great to be able to ssh into a box & just have all X11 apps working |
| KingSphinx | Since I was actually able to make contact with all my repos, do you think I should try installing 3.5.13 or should I wait a bit to see if everything's okay connection-wise? |
| MobileTurkey | rdp works better for me :x |
| MobileTurkey | especially so I can login to linux from a windows box |
| rzs19 | but supports rdp something like xinerama, ord dualhead? |
| MobileTurkey | afaik NO. but i don't need dual heads if I cant even log in |
| kb9vqf | KingSphinx: Give it a shot |
| rzs19 | and whats about opengl? i fear wayland... |
| kb9vqf | you might end up with 404s, if so jsut wait |
| kb9vqf | *just |
| rzs19 | if i have more time, i will write a nice howto, to use lxc with some desktop an X.org, soshow the power of this technolgies :) |
| rzs19 | to show* |
| rzs19 | damn i'am too stupid to use a keyboard correctly... |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | sounds good though |
| rzs19 | there was antoher post, why we have different distributions and why they don't have same release circleswith same kernel, usw... and i just thinked "someone misunderstands linux dsitributions"... thats frustrating... its like "we must be like windows" |
| Z_God | btw, you all should check out NoMachine's X11 proxy in case you never heard of it |
| rzs19 | NX is cool |
| MobileTurkey | FreeNX? |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | not perfect, but it solves many issues that other options have |
| MobileTurkey | right |
| MobileTurkey | every option has its pros and cons |
| rzs19 | yep :) |
| * kb9vqf remembers an old image that used to exist on the Internet years ago...Tux with the words "Don't be Windows" | |
| Z_God | maybe we could integrate freenx into trinity some time |
| MobileTurkey | a freenx app would be cool |
| rzs19 | i wish the old days back... |
| rzs19 | somone knows fox desktop? |
| rzs19 | with kxdocker and kde 3.5.x ? |
| rzs19 | fast and relly nice artwork, but death... |
| rzs19 | +a |
| Z_God | can't you use kxdocker anymore? |
| rzs19 | i don't have tried it... |
| rzs19 | working on a new one for superkramba, in the hope it will be good :P |
| rzs19 | http://stuff.capnkirby.com/Foxdesktop.gif <3 ^^ |
| Z_God | ah ok :) |
| Z_God | looks good :) |
| rzs19 | that was kxdocker |
| KingSphinx | I still feel that SuperKaramba was thrown into KDE 4 as an afterthought, hardly anyone uses it anymore to my knowledge. Bit of a shame, really. |
| Z_God | I guess it could be compiled against trinity |
| Z_God | I never had problems with kde3 apps in trinity |
| rzs19 | i think :) |
| rzs19 | but if i try, i have none sense to play with superkaramba :P |
| Z_God | hehe |
| MobileTurkey | SuperKaramba is what? |
| MobileTurkey | i read about it earlier |
| MobileTurkey | also kxdocker is cool! |
| rzs19 | hmm, dies superkaramba support xinerama, or other dualhead/trippel head whateverhead? |
| rzs19 | damn 3 o clock in the morning, tommorrow i ned to go to work and i want to programm... hmm maybe i should go to bed an programm tomorrow |
| rzs19 | ell, i wish everyone a nice night :) |
| rzs19 | well* |
| kb9vqf | superkaramba is in Trinity |
| rzs19 | i know :) |
| rzs19 | *playing arround with it* |
| Z_God | I'm off to bed here |
| rzs19 | and now good night! :) |
| Z_God | it's also the 2nd of november here already |
| Z_God | ;) |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: thanks for the great release, I'll be looking forward to upgrade this weekend! |
| kb9vqf | you are more than welcome |
| kb9vqf | spead the word :) |
| Z_God | hope you'll be slashdotted :P |
| kb9vqf | The more users on TDE the more devs we can attract |
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| kb9vqf | me too, though that's never happened before... |
| Z_God | I didn't find an article about trinity before on slashdot either |
| * kb9vqf notes that with his luck he'll get too much traffic and the site will go down :-P | |
| Z_God | I hope it will make it now |
| kb9vqf | not sure how things even end up there... |
| KingSphinx | Aw, apt-get is telling me it can't find kubuntu-default-settings-trinity or kubuntu-desktop-trinity... |
| Z_God | I submitted it |
| Z_God | it put it on osnews as well, and it was posted quite quickly there together with a KDE4 rant |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | thanks :) |
| Z_God | osnews is quite nerdy, but one dutch guy there is really into ranting ;) |
| kb9vqf | KingSphinx: Yep, the mirrors are syncing still |
| kb9vqf | it's a lot of data |
| Z_God | np of course! |
| * Z_God is off to bed | |
| kb9vqf | hey, I think this is the busiest this channel has been in months! |
| Z_God | good luck with everything else |
| kb9vqf | Ww should release more often! :-)) |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
| Z_God | a small note is that the current pages offering ISOs still mention them as current |
| kb9vqf | ah, darn |
| * kb9vqf will probably forget to fix them | |
| Z_God | they wouldn't give a bad first impression I think though :) |
| Z_God | good night/day!! |
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| kb9vqf | and they are useful to upgrade from |
| kb9vqf | the UI hasn't changed much from 3.5.12 to 3.5.13 |
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| Xu_R|Web | kb9vqf: congrats on the release! sorry I haven't been very active at all. |
| Xu_R|Web | kb9vqf: the quarter for school just ended... I don't understand why teachers think it's a good idea to assign *x* amount of essays on the last week of school... |
| kb9vqf | no problem |
| kb9vqf | we should start using the Etherpad more often BTW :) |
| Xu_R|Web | *last week of the quarter... |
| Xu_R|Web | yes, we should :) |
| kb9vqf | it was a nice tool |
| kb9vqf | BTW planning meeting will happen 11/15/2011 or so |
| Xu_R|Web | it needs some love :D |
| Xu_R|Web | kk |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.14 will be somewhat compressed |
| kb9vqf | dev cycle wise |
| Xu_R|Web | ima get back into and hopefully finish packaging. it's been kinda hectic. |
| Xu_R|Web | oic. |
| kb9vqf | Calvin and I are working on a release roadmap |
| kb9vqf | timing and all |
| kb9vqf | taking into account some of our recent Q/A lessons |
| Xu_R|Web | and the structuring begins ;P |
| kb9vqf | input is welcome on this discussion |
| kb9vqf | jeje |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| * kb9vqf hates this keyboard | |
| KingSphinx | Whoo, update-related restarts... |
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| Xu_R|Web | XD |
| Xu_R|Web | kb9vqf: I managed to recover my dev machine :D which means I have at least half of the core modules done again |
| kb9vqf | cool |
| Xu_R|Web | (no guarantee on working, but at least they're done packaging wise. now just to test ;P) |
| kb9vqf | which distro? |
| Xu_R|Web | suse |
| kb9vqf | ok, good |
| kb9vqf | we have RHEL and Fedora now |
| kb9vqf | so OpenSUSE would round things out |
| kb9vqf | I also think Gentoo works, albiet with a manual compilation |
| Xu_R|Web | yea. samelian is busy tho :| |
| kb9vqf | we're slowly building back up to where KDE3 was :) |
| Xu_R|Web | :D |
| Xu_R|Web | othankgod, my server is back up. this damn router. |
| Xu_R|Web | switching to xchat. |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R|Web: hey :) |
| Xu_R|Web | yo, calvin :D |
| Xu_R|Web | ...as soon as I find the new Ip for my ircclient >_> |
| * Xu_R|Web hates d-link | |
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| MobileTurkey | whats up dude |
| MobileTurkey | havent seen you at all |
| MobileTurkey | also we should try and video chat because I am hankering to see if gmail video chat works :p |
| MobileTurkey | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/3_5_14_Roadmap |
| MobileTurkey | updated it with pre release planning |
| MobileTurkey | using "x weeks to release" |
| Xu_R|Web | MobileTurkey: sure, if my webcam starts working. does occasionally. :) |
| kb9vqf | ok, but feature freeze will be 6 weeks |
| kb9vqf | also add 1 week to build packages |
| kb9vqf | not everyone has something as powerful as the QuickBuild supercomputer ;-) |
| MobileTurkey | 6 weeks? |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: how big is that cluster/ |
| MobileTurkey | ? |
| kb9vqf | 80 cores |
| Xu_R|Web | and quickbuild probably takes a while anyway ;) |
| Xu_R|Web | oh damn. |
| kb9vqf | on the build farm alone |
| kb9vqf | control servers add more |
| Xu_R|Web | i'll... stick to using build.o.o lolol |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| MobileTurkey | jeez |
| MobileTurkey | 80 cores.... |
| MobileTurkey | so that's takes up entire rooms? |
| kb9vqf | remember I've got four distros on three architectures |
| kb9vqf | actually 5 distros |
| MobileTurkey | 5? |
| kb9vqf | Lucid, Maverick, Natty, Oneiric, Squeeze |
| MobileTurkey | right |
| kb9vqf | technically Squeeze builds on armel and the others don't |
| kb9vqf | but that will change |
| Xu_R | test |
| MobileTurkey | most of the work was probably already done |
| Xu_R | awesome |
| Xu_R | it works agian |
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| MobileTurkey | the compilation fixes |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: :) |
| Xu_R | ^_^ |
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| MobileTurkey | 6 weeks is a long time, are you sure kb9vqf? |
| Xu_R | oh, i don't think I'll be able to even allocate 2 cores right now XD |
| Xu_R | https://build.opensuse.org/monitor |
| kb9vqf | yes, that's why I leased this cluster |
| kb9vqf | otherwise it takes too long |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: is that free? |
| kb9vqf | yes and no, basically usage is shared with a business |
| MobileTurkey | actually, archlinux has that too |
| MobileTurkey | now I think |
| kb9vqf | when the business needs it Trinity cannot use it |
| MobileTurkey | but its only for core developers |
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| Xu_R | MobileTurkey: yup |
| Xu_R | MobileTurkey: the buildservice has always been free. |
| MobileTurkey | cool |
| MobileTurkey | I am going to give 1 month till GIT is done in the timeline |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MobileTurkey | 12/01/2011 |
| Xu_R | i know that they added mandriva repo generation a few weeks ago, and they're working on adding arch pkginfo support |
| Xu_R | cool. gives me enough time to finish packaging. I hope. |
| MobileTurkey | ? |
| MobileTurkey | oh |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: Q/A starts at 6 weeks before release |
| MobileTurkey | ok |
| MobileTurkey | that is a LONG time |
| kb9vqf | that can easily take a couple weeks |
| MobileTurkey | 6 weeks ago we were still getting display config done. |
| kb9vqf | I know |
| kb9vqf | and this release shipped with some pretty big bugs |
| kb9vqf | I don't want a repeat |
| KingSphinx | Bugs? Hoo boy |
| kb9vqf | The Q/A team has to flush out the bugs, we have to patch them, they have to retest... |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: do we have a slackware release 3.5.13? |
| kb9vqf | not yet |
| kb9vqf | we didn't give Darrell enough tim |
| kb9vqf | *time |
| MobileTurkey | is he working on it? |
| kb9vqf | When I demand 6 weeks there are good reasons for it :) |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | AFAIK |
| kb9vqf | KingSphinx: See the known issues section of the release notes |
| kb9vqf | if you don't use the affected apps you won't notice them |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: When you have saved your changes to the Wiki let me in there for a sec please :) |
| * kb9vqf wants to correct something | |
| MobileTurkey | saved |
| MobileTurkey | well its loading... |
| MobileTurkey | saved |
| kb9vqf | ok hang on |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: ok, you can have it back now :) |
| kb9vqf | please specify a start of the code hacking period |
| kb9vqf | I suggest 3 days after the GIT migration is complete |
| kb9vqf | to give time for the patches to be committed |
| kb9vqf | *reviewed/committed |
| MobileTurkey | ok |
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| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: 12/03/2011 |
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| MobileTurkey | 12/04/2011 acutally |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | also I would expect development to slow down over the holidays |
| MobileTurkey | right that is natural |
| MobileTurkey | for me it will be the opposite though |
| MobileTurkey | I have a month off of school |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | Can you work on the HAL replacement? |
| kb9vqf | i.e. do you have the know-how? |
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| kb9vqf | the specs have been rotting on the Wiki for some time now |
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| MobileTurkey | I dont have the know how |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MobileTurkey | I dont have any computer know how |
| kb9vqf | ?? |
| MobileTurkey | in fact i have never taken a computer course! |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| MobileTurkey | but I tend to learn as I go along |
| MobileTurkey | I will poke around |
| kb9vqf | well...HAL replacement is a bit ambitious for this release cycle unless samelian can help IMHO |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: just pointing this to you... http://rxu.lincomlinux.org/2011/10/knetworkmanager-not-09-compatible.html - seems like I tend to attract the plasma nm dev (hehe...) |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: what will you be doing? Qt4? |
| kb9vqf | NO |
| kb9vqf | Qt4 could take years TBH |
| MobileTurkey | :[ |
| kb9vqf | I don't have that kind of time |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: not done gtk3 at all :P not even close |
| kb9vqf | yeah, was going to say that |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: well what are the proposed release goals |
| MobileTurkey | we should work on that page as well |
| Xu_R | MobileTurkey: oh well. :P |
| kb9vqf | I would like to see TQt3 and Qt4 get along in the same application |
| kb9vqf | that opens up a world of possibilities, including a first generation Trinity theme engine for Qt4 |
| MobileTurkey | webkit as well |
| kb9vqf | that will also probably take most of the 3 month dev cycle on my part |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | and technically solid or another similar Qt4 hardware layer |
| kb9vqf | so in my book it's High Priority |
| kb9vqf | we will also inherit all the bugs that were not fixed from 3.5.12 |
| kb9vqf | they will need to be fixed |
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| kb9vqf | and I can't do anywhere near all of them on my own *hint* *hint* |
| KingSphinx | Not to be nitpicky, but isn't Trinity's theme just Kubuntu 8.04's theme with a different default wallpaper? :P |
| MobileTurkey | KingSphinx: yes. |
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| MobileTurkey | thats another thing |
| MobileTurkey | someone on artwork would be awesome |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | this is another goal for 3.5.14 |
| kb9vqf | there are a lot of very nice themes on kdelook |
| kb9vqf | that might offer a starting point |
| KingSphinx | Is the "Crystal T" still just temporary? IMO, it rather suits the project. |
| kb9vqf | nope, the Crystal T is permanent |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: yes we should at least import some as our own |
| MobileTurkey | kdelook is has tons of valuable stuff |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | actually we should get a TDE section on there :)) |
| MobileTurkey | that would be cool |
| KingSphinx | Wouldn't hurt to give the new section a shot, it'd give lots more attention to us |
| kb9vqf | for most things (such as wallpapers) a direct mapping to KDE/KDE4 would work just fine |
| kb9vqf | it's only KDM themes, widget styles, and descorator themes that will need separate code |
| kb9vqf | *decorator |
| kb9vqf | and actually KDM themes use XML files, so they are probably fully compatible |
| MobileTurkey | what do you think about changing the default look? |
| MobileTurkey | or are we happy with it? |
| kb9vqf | everyone here should be thinking of what they want to see in 3.5.14 so we can prioritize in the meeting on the 15th |
| kb9vqf | a better, less clunky look would be a Good Thing |
| kb9vqf | I never use that theme. Ever. |
| kb9vqf | and come to think of it no one else that I know of does either |
| kb9vqf | it really does need to go, but the art/look+feel aspect of Trinity has not been given much attention |
| MobileTurkey | hehe |
| MobileTurkey | also, signing up for GSOC next year? |
| kb9vqf | GSOC? Hmmm |
| kb9vqf | Depends on the amount of work I would have to go through to do so :)) |
| Xu_R | GSOC might be a good idea |
| KingSphinx | Use what, the Hardy Heron look? |
| MobileTurkey | I mean it's like a full time developer for a few months |
| MobileTurkey | paid in full by google |
| kb9vqf | yes, I know, so it would be quite nice |
| kb9vqf | we'll see |
| MobileTurkey | I think mostly the student would just check in with the mentor (you) |
| MobileTurkey | and stuf |
| kb9vqf | can you gather some info (deadlines, etc.) for the meeting? |
| MobileTurkey | unlikely we'd be picked but giving it a shot |
| kb9vqf | sure, I agree |
| MobileTurkey | http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs |
| MobileTurkey | some bedside reading for you guys about GSOC ;) |
| Xu_R | :o |
| kb9vqf | ok, looks good |
| kb9vqf | though we will have to prioritize what we need most badly ;-) |
| kb9vqf | pie-in-the-sky type stuff |
| kb9vqf | anyway, do remember to think about the upcoming meeting |
| kb9vqf | meetings are much more productive when people come prepared |
| kb9vqf | this is going to be a planning meeting to set the direction of the 3.5.14 release |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: Can you handle meeting date/time setup? |
| MobileTurkey | aye captain! |
| kb9vqf | Also a pre-meeting skeleton on the Etherpad would be good |
| MobileTurkey | I'll scurvey off the seven seas if i hafta |
| kb9vqf | :)) |
| kb9vqf | hmmm...that might make the project look bad ;-) |
| Xu_R | i'll try to check etherpad soon |
| Xu_R | lolol. |
| MobileTurkey | sounds like good stuff for tomorrow during my history class :P |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| MobileTurkey | now I think it is time to go to bed |
| MobileTurkey | my eyeballs are falling out of my head |
| Xu_R | >_> |
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| MobileTurkey | been staring at this screen all day without glasses |
| Xu_R | :-\ |
| MobileTurkey | language updates should also be key |
| exc_ | wiki has some links to etherpad, but etherpad can't be viewed without registration |
| MobileTurkey | exc_: yeah :/ |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: ^ are we going to fix that ever? |
| kb9vqf | ah dar |
| kb9vqf | *darn |
| kb9vqf | yes, probably |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: also, is kubuntu-desktop-trinity still exist? |
| MobileTurkey | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/lwozj/trinity_desktop_environment_3513_released/c2way3f |
| MobileTurkey | someone said they didn't see it |
| exc_ | i don't see many packages in squeeze/i386 |
| exc_ | probably it isn't done |
| kb9vqf | not on the mirrors yet... |
| kb9vqf | it exists |
| KingSphinx | Lo and behold, Muon's telling me that too. Searching "trinity" gives a whole bunch of crud, but using sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity yields nothing. |
| kb9vqf | MobileTurkey: I updated the 3.5.14 roadmap |
| MobileTurkey | ok |
| kb9vqf | KingSphinx: The package lists have not yet made it to the mirrors. Trust me, it's there (I'm staring right at it on my local repository) |
| kb9vqf | I am starting to think I really bungled by sending out the notice before the binaries were mirrored |
| kb9vqf | Oh well, live + learn |
| KingSphinx | Well, at least I know the repos are working. |
| MobileTurkey | yeah :/ |
| kb9vqf | sorry all |
| kb9vqf | allowing more time next release so we won't have this problem :)) |
| KingSphinx | Is this the first release to have this "problem"? |
| kb9vqf | yes, because it was rushed a bit at the end |
| kb9vqf | the Fedora/RHEL packages were a surprise |
| kb9vqf | and have been bogging down the mirror resync |
| KingSphinx | A rather pleasant surprise, but it doesn't help mirror matters |
| kb9vqf | right |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: okay so the roadmap looks excellent |
| MobileTurkey | week of march 18th is when we go into freeze if we release the 1st |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | ironic that we are coming OUT of the deep freeze weather-wise at that point :) |
| MobileTurkey | hehe |
| MobileTurkey | okay I am going to bed |
| MobileTurkey | Goodnight Xu_R, kb9vqf, KingSphinx |
| Xu_R | night |
| kb9vqf | gn |
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| likedit | I came from http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwOTk here. As a normal user, when KDE 4 was released I went over to Gnome. Now Gnome3 is there and I will likely go to XFCE since it is in most Distros avaible. The screenshoot of Trinity made me feel nostalgic... I hope you can keep it alive, because I really think it is the better DE. I am sure the newer DEs will fail at some point, that would be your time t |
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| edogaa | lol, on one note I Don't think they'll fail, these DEs will always have their users but I Wouldn't be surprised when Trinity gets some popularity from users like...well who just like the KDE3 way of doing things |
| KingSphinx | Or those who just want a good, stable, traditional desktop? |
| edogaa | Well, that's in the same category as people who like doing things the kde3 way, or rather the group I ptu them into lol |
| edogaa | But same group could also go for forks of GNOME2, maybe GNOME 3 with an improving fallback mode? Or XFCE4. KDE3 is still better in a lot of otherways but I try to be realistic rather than seeing every project falling :/ and yadda yadda... |
| edogaa | hmm, fedora finshed :O gonna try the liveCD brb |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 573 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=573 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [mirrors] Debian mirrors don't exist |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 573 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=573 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [mirrors] Debian mirrors don't exist |
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| edogaa | hey |
| edogaa | So |
| edogaa | wget http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f15/trinity-3.5.13-f15.repo |
| edogaa | when i do that, i get a 404 error |
| edogaa | i sleep |
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| xirotyu | hello, i want to ask where is the kde-trinity package on debian squeeze? E: Package 'kde-trinity' has no installation candidate |
| xirotyu | is that only a meta package...? |
| Z_God | xirotyu: are you sure you followed all the instructions with adding the repository? |
| xirotyu | yes.. using the debian squeeze repo but the debian is using unstable |
| Z_God | maybe the mirrors are not all up to date yet or smth |
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| xirotyu | hmm maybe.. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 574 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=574 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Enh: konqueror-trinity should use alternatives system to update x-www-browser |
| edogaa | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#redhat when I follow that and try to wget the link for Fedora 15, I keep getting a 404. |
| edogaa | just thought i'd try and make it more descriptive |
| Space_Man | maybe the mirrors are not up to date |
| Xu_R|School | mirrors are still syncing |
| edogaa | Oh? How long do they usually take o.o? |
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| Space_Man | how long is a piece of string? |
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| Xu_R|School | iouno. takes a while though. |
| Xu_R|School | bbiab |
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| rzs19 | hello, the mirrors are rdy? |
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| edogaa | AH |
| edogaa | thanks, I'll go to class now and see if it works later. |
| edogaa | see ya! |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: Are you going to make the meeting announcements? |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/KDE-3-5-fork-Trinity-updated-1369987.html |
| MutantTurkey | nice linkey :) |
| MutantTurkey | saw 2 articles on the runet as well as a spanish article |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: six pages of comments on the osnews article! |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: yeah I saw it, but it's really mostly about KDE 4 :S |
| MutantTurkey | I know |
| MutantTurkey | still it's publicity |
| MutantTurkey | who gives a crap about kde4:P |
| MutantTurkey | obviously they are all dissatisfied |
| Z_God | I also submitted the new to the dot btw ;) |
| Z_God | news* |
| Z_God | I wonder if they'll post it |
| MutantTurkey | the dot? |
| MutantTurkey | also I saw some on 2 russians websites |
| MutantTurkey | did you post this? |
| MutantTurkey | 32 upvotes on reddit as well... |
| Z_God | no, I didn't |
| Z_God | http://dot.kde.org/ |
| Z_God | it seems people are also writing about gnome 2.x forks |
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| MobileTurkey | I cant read russian but, http://www.nixp.ru/news/Trinity-Desktop-Environment-3-5-13-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C-KDE-3-5.html |
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| MobileTurkey | i doubt though they'll cover trinity on dot.kde |
| Z_God | it was mentioned once |
| Z_God | in a svn write-up |
| MobileTurkey | look! |
| MobileTurkey | http://commit-digest.org/issues/2011-10-23/ |
| MobileTurkey | timothy is in the commit digests |
| MobileTurkey | as well as triniy |
| MobileTurkey | because we still use their svn :p |
| Z_God | yep, that's what I meant ;) |
| Z_God | and it main the front page of the dot once |
| Z_God | and it seems Mate or MATE is the Gnome 2.x fork |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| MobileTurkey | its not getting much far though |
| MobileTurkey | started by archers :) |
| Z_God | I only really used gnome 1.x I guess |
| Z_God | don't know much about 2 |
| Z_God | I never liked gnome and never bothered to try newer versions |
| MobileTurkey | yeah :/ |
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| MutantTurkey | www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/3_5_14_Roadmap |
| MutantTurkey | working out the roadmap |
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| Space_Man | What is the best way to install Ubuntu Onerous and Trinity 3.5.13? |
| Space_Man | I currently have ubuntu 11.04 |
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| vhumpa | Hi guys, probably been asked a plenty of times, but is there any place with the new RPM packages built? The fedora and rhel repo links go 404 as well as I cant see any rpms on the server. Still building I guess? |
| vhumpa | Space_Man: Does these instructions http://trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#ubuntu not work for you? |
| vhumpa | I'd say update to 11.10 (Oneiric), then follow them. |
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| Edogaa | Hey |
| Edogaa | http://www.osnews.com/thread?495232 |
| Edogaa | Hmm o_O if that's true i wonder how much time is left lol? |
| Edogaa | I Mean, I knew it take a while to sync just wasn't sure how long :/ |
| Z_God | Edogaa: it means they sync once per day |
| Z_God | not that the sync takes a full day |
| Edogaa | K :/ just getting a little impatient since I can't seem to install it yet. lol |
| Z_God | you should try finding a mirror that is complete already if you're really in a hurry ;) |
| rzs19 | is the sync done for the debian squeeze mirrors? it just wants to update 16 packages, is that right? i want update from 3.5.12 to 3.5.13. |
| Z_God | you can check the versions of the packages |
| vhumpa | Care to share some mirrors other than http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/ ? :) |
| vhumpa | I'd say 5-10 hours there tops |
| Z_God | ah heh, I thought there were more |
| Edogaa | :( |
| rzs19 | apt-cache policy kdebase-trinitykdebase-trinity: Installiert: 4:3.5.12-0debian7+r1181781 Kandidat: 4:3.5.12-0debian7+r1181781 Versionstabelle: *** 4:3.5.12-0debian7+r1181781 0 500 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| vhumpa | I am downloading sources now, wonder if building them will finish sooner than the mirror sync :) |
| Z_God | here is another mirror |
| Z_God | http://mirror.its.ac.id/trinity/ |
| Z_God | I guess you can google for more... |
| Edogaa | any other mirrors for Fedora 15? :D |
| Z_God | no idea |
| Z_God | maybe you can google one of the filenames |
| Z_God | http://trinity.mangafrance.com/ |
| Z_God | this one is not working? |
| Edogaa | ah |
| vhumpa | Interesting |
| Edogaa | I found that one right about NOW xD |
| Edogaa | then look back here...hmmm |
| vhumpa | Here you go: http://trinity.mangafrance.com/f15/trinity-3.5.13-f15.repo |
| vhumpa | Thanks Z_God! |
| Z_God | np :) |
| Z_God | I was just googling a bit as well ;) |
| Edogaa | >_> Z_God while I can't have your babies can I send wave after wave of women at you as a reward!? |
| vhumpa | We do deserve a nice lection of RTFM now :) |
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| Z_God | Edogaa: what kind of women? ;) |
| MutantTurkey | what about women? |
| MutantTurkey | Lo |
| MutantTurkey | l |
| Z_God | the trinity project could really use some developers :) |
| Edogaa | xD |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: we could use some developers |
| MutantTurkey | we need someone to work on kdeartwork :p |
| thistle_ | I followed the instructions to add the Ubuntu repo and pgp key. This part went fine. |
| MutantTurkey | get rid of the idea that qt3 is "ugly" |
| thistle_ | the kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity packages don't seam to exist. |
| MutantTurkey | thistle_: still no? |
| MutantTurkey | must be still uploading to the mirror |
| thistle_ | still no |
| MutantTurkey | :X |
| MutantTurkey | I am getting quite annoyed now |
| MutantTurkey | thought we had that resolved. |
| Edogaa | Huh? |
| Edogaa | Oh |
| thistle_ | No big. I just wanted to make sure package named didn't change. I hate maintaining documentation my self. |
| Edogaa | http://www.osnews.com/thread?495345 KILL |
| MutantTurkey | thistle_: you could change your source to use http://mirror.its.edu |
| MutantTurkey | it should work |
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| Edogaa | http://trinity.mangafrance.com/f15/ wonder how i can get it to use this mirror, I got the .repo thingy downloaded but it seems to go here http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity/rpm/f15/ |
| Edogaa | :/ Does thsi basically go for the closest mirror automatically or something? lol |
| Z_God | Edogaa: maybe you can just edit that repo file? |
| Edogaa | Change the baseurl? |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | smth like that |
| MutantTurkey | Edogaa: we have a bunch of mirrors |
| MutantTurkey | randomly selects it |
| MutantTurkey | load balancing |
| Edogaa | o.O Ah |
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| Edogaa | and since that mirror doesn't work at all...I'd assume it has the 'least load to deal with' and is automatically selected? or more random than that lol |
| MutantTurkey | Edogaa: they typically all work |
| MutantTurkey | with the f17 packages and RHEL last minute, it's been more than expected |
| MutantTurkey | not sure whats going on. |
| MutantTurkey | stoichiometry is so much fun >_> Xu_R |
| Edogaa | Hmm, noarch and 64 bit? |
| MutantTurkey | noarch means you can intsall on any system. |
| Edogaa | Ah. |
| Edogaa | So, I assume this includes arm, and stuff not just x86? |
| MutantTurkey | I assume. |
| Z_God | there are no binaries in noarch packages |
| Edogaa | looks like I'll have to wait. |
| thistle_ | MutantTurkey: I gather you mean http://mirrors.its.uidaho.edu. Unfortunately they do not have an Oneiric mirror. |
| MutantTurkey | they do thistle_ |
| MutantTurkey | http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/dists/ |
| MutantTurkey | it's there |
| MutantTurkey | http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ <- thats the link you'll need afaik |
| vhumpa | Edogaa: Why you need to wait? |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: yep |
| Edogaa | I keep getting stuff like, "need kde-soandso-" |
| vhumpa | With yum and http://trinity.mangafrance.com/f15/ repos? |
| Edogaa | Yes. |
| Edogaa | Requires: trinity-kdepim >= 3.5.13 also for kdeartwork...utils,artwork, base... |
| MutantTurkey | whats the problem? |
| MutantTurkey | It requires that |
| MutantTurkey | anyway, off to lunch! cya guys |
| vhumpa | Strange, all the packages are there |
| vhumpa | I do have some dep conflicts, but only due to I have F16 not 15 |
| Edogaa | yu're right :/ |
| vhumpa | Did you get the .repo file and edit it for the mangafrance? |
| Edogaa | yes |
| vhumpa | And yum install trinity-desktop still does that... |
| vhumpa | Hm, wierd |
| Edogaa | then, 'packages skipped due to dependency problems' |
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| Edogaa | when I Use --skip-broken |
| vhumpa | Yeah, that never helps |
| thistle_ | MutantTurkey: I'm an idiot. It helps to have pub in the url. There is still no kubuntu-desktop-trinity package for amd64 |
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| Edogaa | welcome back |
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| drakuwa | hello everybody, anyone know why the Fedora/RHEL repos aren't available? |
| Z_God | drakuwa: the mirrors are still syncing |
| KingSphinx | drakuwa: As far as I know, none of the repos are available yet due to mirroring issues. Adding the RHEL/Fedora repos at the last minute is actually what caused this, oddly enough. Best advice I can give is to just wait it out and check every so often to see if the mirrors are up. |
| KingSphinx | Next release of Trinity shouldn't have these issues though, lol |
| drakuwa | thanks for the answer... |
| drakuwa | I found this one in the logs http://trinity.mangafrance.com/f15/trinity-3.5.13-f15.repo is it worth trying? |
| drakuwa | not really ... ok sorry for bothering you guys, I guess I'll wait :D |
| KingSphinx | Eh, I'm in the same boat as you, except I use Kubuntu... |
| KingSphinx | ...wow, I can't believe I just remembered my first experience with KDE 3.x :P |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: when was it? :P |
| KingSphinx | It was on a computer I had rebuilt as a school project, and since I had the computer for a while after the project was over, I figured I'd install Debian on it. Turns out Debian Lenny had a broken version of GDM, so I reinstalled with just the minimal set of tools, then installed KDE thinking it was going to be KDE 4.x... I was quite surprised at what had appeared instead. |
| KingSphinx | (I had no idea of what pre-4.x-KDE was like at the time, mind you.) |
| Z_God | ah wow |
| Z_God | so you experience KDE 4 before 3 and stuck with 3? :) |
| Z_God | experienced* |
| KingSphinx | Really liked it though, ran quite smoothly on that old Celeron processor with... maybe half a GB of RAM? |
| KingSphinx | And yes, my first KDE was 4.2 if I remember correctly. |
| Z_God | maybe you'll like KDE 1 even more ;) |
| KingSphinx | Funny how I used 4 before 3, and still prefer the older one. Probably has to do with how 3.x didn't crash all the time :P |
| Z_God | that's indeed interesting |
| KingSphinx | Haha, probably not, but it does look nice for something so old. |
| Z_God | KDE 1 ran fine with 64 MB of RAM btw :P |
| KingSphinx | (that was in response to 1.x) |
| KingSphinx | What was your first experience with KDE? (Might as well ask since I have nothing to do until the mirrors sync) |
| Edogaa | >_> |
| thistle_ | I think I went fvwm then openstep for a short time then KDE3. |
| Edogaa | I first tried PCLinuxOS on a liveCD, it was during 2006 or so. They used KDE3, it was nice, at first I Kinda liked KDE4, but it didn't quite grow on me. :/ Tried KDE3 on debian 6 when I heard of trinity and found it to be a bit nicer. |
| thistle_ | I tried to like KDE4 but couldn't stand how slow it made my machine. |
| Edogaa | Eh, I can't figure out what but I just can't like it :/ |
| KingSphinx | 4 runs okay on my machine, I just don't like how often Plasma still crashes and how memory-hungry it gets (750 MB minimum is almost Windows 7-level bloated) |
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| thistle_ | It took a long time to compile KDE3 from the FreeBSD ports tree. |
| thistle_ | that was around freebsd 4.6 |
| thistle_ | can't remember for sure |
| KingSphinx | I've heard that from GNOME 3 onward, GNOME will be Linux-only. Kinda odd how KDE is now the only real DE of coice for stuff like BSD/Solaris (unless Oracle manages to make something of their own again) |
| KingSphinx | *choice |
| Edogaa | I don't think they'l be Linux-Only |
| Edogaa | That was a suggest from some guy at red hat |
| Edogaa | If it does...then sigh. |
| Edogaa | I believe it was that poettering dude? |
| KingSphinx | Not like I use it much anymore anyway, I'm just not a fan of the direction desktops seems to be going in nowadays. Sure, they're noob-friendly, but that's at the expense of everyone else. |
| KingSphinx | Besides, I don't see how stuff like Trinity is any less noob-friendly than any other desktop. Heck, I'd think it would be more ideal for someone switching from Windows since it has a similar layout. |
| kaiomatico | Word. |
| KingSphinx | (plus a few advantages like multiple desktops, but that's beside the point) |
| kaiomatico | quick question, are there any new live cd builds coming soon? maybe even debian based, not ubuntu? |
| KingSphinx | Speaking of multiple desktop though, I've read that Windows doesn't include them because they believe people are too stupid to know how to use them? |
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| ian_ | hello everyone |
| Edogaa | there is always virtualwin but it feels like crap |
| KingSphinx | And kaiomatico, there are apparently ISOs for Trinity somewhere, but I don't know where. Would love to see a Debian Live CD of this, because Debian gave me my first experience with KDE 3.x ;) |
| ian_ | so I'm running Ubuntu 11.10, and I'm having trouble installing the project |
| ian_ | I followed the instructions to a t |
| KingSphinx | Repo issues? |
| KingSphinx | If it's repo issues, the mirrors aren't quite done syncing yet, so I'd give it some time before trying to install Trinity. |
| rzs19 | Debian with Trinity, Trinian :D |
| ian_ | here's what I see in my term http://pastebin.com/x6yCPPAF |
| KingSphinx | Yep, that's the same thing I get. Just wait a while and try again until you're able to install it is all I can really tell you. :/ |
| Edogaa | :/ |
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| Z_God | KingSphinx: my first experience with KDE was with SuSE 6.1 |
| rzs19 | somone used openlinux? |
| rzs19 | i think openlinux 2.3 was my first distribution with kde |
| KingSphinx | So you really did use KDE from the beginning? Wow. |
| Edogaa | ,,,hmmmm I Wonder what SuSE stands for? o.O |
| Edogaa | I never paid attention but Su...SE |
| Edogaa | why are the last two letter in caps, is there a meaning behind it!? D: |
| Z_God | System und Software Entwikkelung |
| Z_God | or smth like that, my german is a bit rusty |
| KingSphinx | Sounds about right, though I don't speak German. :P |
| Edogaa | lol.... |
| Edogaa | System and Software Enterprise I assume? |
| Z_God | no |
| Z_God | System and Software Development |
| Edogaa | Damn, I Was hoping to take a guess xD |
| Z_God | ;) |
| KingSphinx | "Software and Systems Development" according to Wikipedia |
| Z_God | ah I switched the Ss |
| Edogaa | xD |
| rzs19 | damn, under openlinux i had kde 1.1 ... long, long time ago... |
| Z_God | yeah in suse I used 1 at least |
| Z_God | dunno if I experienced 1.0 |
| Z_God | I still have a book which describes the KDE 1 betas |
| Z_God | with a screenshot |
| rzs19 | It seems like we are getting old... |
| Z_God | yep... |
| KingSphinx | 1.1's not that different, I think... probably just stability improvements and whatnot. |
| rzs19 | Here is a KDE 1.1 Development book... |
| Z_God | rzs19: cool :) |
| Z_God | no |
| Z_God | kool :) |
| rzs19 | we have her on work only linux users. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 575 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=575 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Official KDE request to rename kwin |
| rzs19 | ähm at work* |
| KingSphinx | TWin? It is Trinity, after all. |
| Edogaa | hmmm, kde1 lol |
| * Edogaa is wiking KDE SC. | |
| Z_God | KDE 1 rocked really |
| Z_God | it kicked Windows 98's butt |
| Z_God | I ran it on an AMD K6-2 333MHz with 64MB RAM |
| Edogaa | o.O KDE1 was released in 1998? |
| Edogaa | Did you guys just use window managers before then? lol |
| Edogaa | Like, Enlightenment 16? or FVWM? |
| KingSphinx | If I still had my old Compaq Presario, I'd think about putting something like Puppy on it. |
| KingSphinx | And yes, for the most part, people used window managers for a GUI before GNOME and KDE, I believe. |
| rzs19 | btw: twin is maybe a bad idea for a new name, there is a textmode window manager called twin |
| rzs19 | http://freecode.com/projects/twin |
| KingSphinx | Aw, really. Crap. |
| KingSphinx | Hmm... TrinWin? |
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| Edogaa | Tounqueror sounds silly, I'd say something like Tkonq would sound better. Though, the K would still have too much of KDE In it |
| KingSphinx | Though this is something to think about... hey, what about Amarok? If the Clementine team's help hadn't already been refused, I'd have considered changing Amarok's name to Clementine since Clementine is pretty much just a port of Amarok 1.4 |
| rzs19 | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/11/the-grass-has-always-been-greener-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence/ |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: port to what? |
| rzs19 | yep tonqueror sounds, strange... it was just a joke... |
| KingSphinx | Clementine is a port of Amarok 1.4 to Qt4; a while back, the Clementine team asked if they could help with managing Amarok in Trinity, but were politely refused. |
| Edogaa | Oh? :/ |
| Edogaa | Why did you guys refuse them? D: |
| Z_God | and why did they port amarok again? |
| Z_God | there is also amarok 2 for qt4 |
| KingSphinx | A lot of people didn't like the massive changes between amarok 1.4 and Amarok 2, so Clementine was created. |
| Edogaa | Yeah, clementine was a little nicer imho, surei t didn't have some of the features (that I could notice) but if you just want a music player it's nice, small doesn't get in your way and looks good. |
| Z_God | I see |
| Edogaa | mioght be wrong on the small part though lol |
| KingSphinx | No, you're right, one of the best parts about Amarok 1.4 was how light it was. |
| Edogaa | but anyways, I am curious why refuse their help? o.O;; |
| KingSphinx | Probably for reasons only Tim knows... :P |
| Edogaa | Ah |
| rzs19 | http://www.freiesmagazin.de/mobil/freiesMagazin-2011-09-bilder.html#11_09_trinity -*grml* |
| KingSphinx | I wish I could understand German... |
| rzs19 | this post... how can i explain it... |
| Z_God | there is only one main point really |
| rzs19 | there stands "Trinity - Desktop without Future" |
| Z_God | lack of developers |
| Edogaa | How many active devs are there curiously? |
| KingSphinx | From what I read in a (sadly no longer online) review of 3.5.12, I think about... 12? |
| Z_God | seems like a high number to me really ... |
| Edogaa | Ah |
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| MobileTurkey | staring on arch pkgbuilds now |
| Edogaa | hmm |
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| MobileTurkey | Piki: hey doode! |
| Piki | i don't have doo in de! |
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| * Piki wishes he could be mobile | |
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| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: ikr... I did that last year. XD it's physics for me this year, and Quest (quest.cns.utexas.edu) is killing me DX |
| Xu_R | MobileTurkey_: ^ |
| MobileTurkey_ | haha |
| MobileTurkey_ | its terrible |
| MobileTurkey_ | I dont like physics much |
| MobileTurkey_ | Piki: anyway havent seen you in a blue moon |
| Piki | MobileTurkey_, i only visit orange moons :-) |
| MobileTurkey_ | :P |
| MobileTurkey_ | how have you been? |
| Piki | extremely bored, lack of job can really play tricks on the mind :-) |
| Piki | sometimes i don't even know what day it is :-) |
| Piki | hopefully one of the hundreds of places i applied at will call soon |
| Piki | ooh new release, gotta get to work overheating my cpu :-) |
| Xu_R | MobileTurkey_: yea... Yay for force and coefficients of static friction! >_>" |
| MobileTurkey_ | Piki: try it out its nice |
| MobileTurkey_ | Xu_R: :| lol |
| MobileTurkey_ | Xu_R: also somone on reddit asked about your packages... |
| MobileTurkey_ | any progress? |
| MobileTurkey_ | <no> |
| Xu_R | XD I just recovered my dev machine, so.... since the last 2-3 weeks? no >_> |
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| Z_God | I think it would be good if timothy could write a bit with him |
| Xu_R | rzs19: bs. |
| Xu_R | that comment is bs. xD\ |
| Z_God | my teachnical knowledge of this issue is limited |
| Z_God | this part is what I understood from timothy |
| MobileTurkey_ | rzs19: where? |
| KingSphinx | Besides, it's not really "living in the past" so much as choosing to use this particular DE because it's the right one for whatever reason. |
| MobileTurkey_ | I mean, trinity IS keeping 3.5 alive. |
| Piki | grr, knoppix doesn't provide a large enough ramdisk, gotta reboot again :-( |
| MobileTurkey_ | there isn't an argument. |
| Z_God | MobileTurkey_: we're talking about this blog post: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/11/the-grass-has-always-been-greener-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence/ |
| MobileTurkey_ | Piki: ramdisks resize automatically |
| MobileTurkey_ | i though? |
| KingSphinx | But it's not just a rehash of old stuff as that reviewer likes to claim. :/ |
| rzs19 | maybe he fears tde? :P |
| Piki | MobileTurkey_, my ramdisk is 2.3GB, all of which is used, and i have 4GB RAM |
| Piki | apt is complaining that it's full, and i need to install the jfs modules to mount my Ark partition to do my rsync |
| Xu_R | Piki: try setting it when you boot the kernel |
| Xu_R | there's usually an option |
| rzs19 | it makes my a little bit angry, to read his german post. |
| Piki | Xu_R, not in the knoppix boot menu, at least not that i can see |
| Xu_R | :| |
| Xu_R | rzs19: lol, maybe he does xD |
| Xu_R | or an ubuntu fanboy, but ok xD |
| MobileTurkey_ | I responded |
| Piki | anyways, brb |
| rzs19 | no.. no.. a SuSE Fanboy... |
| MobileTurkey_ | ubuntu LOL |
| rzs19 | if i remember |
| MobileTurkey_ | sigh |
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| Xu_R | no, no, I'm the SuSE fanboy xD |
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| Xu_R | SuSE still supports KDE3 in 12.1 |
| KingSphinx | Whoa, seriously? |
| Xu_R | yea |
| rzs19 | well i was too a SuSE Fanboy ;) |
| KingSphinx | .13 or .10? |
| Xu_R | .10 |
| Xu_R | although the KDE3 maintainer has an unreasonable view that pisses off other factory devs... |
| KingSphinx | You'd think they'd want to offer Trinity, but oh well. |
| rzs19 | but yast is nothing for me. |
| * Xu_R had to stop Ilya from throwing KDE3 down a hill in early October >_> | |
| KingSphinx | What do you mean "unreasonable view"? |
| Xu_R | quote: "It's not Ilya if he doesn't think that the number of packages equals the better and the more maintained" ~factory dev |
| Xu_R | sigh |
| Xu_R | anyway |
| KingSphinx | Ooohhh, the whole "we have more stuff, therefore we're better" view? |
| Xu_R | yup |
| MobileTurkey_ | no changing ilya :/ |
| MobileTurkey_ | KingSphinx: and the "dont change anything" view |
| MobileTurkey_ | just keeps it compiling, not improving |
| KingSphinx | I wonder if openSUSE has ever thought of offering Trinity instead of the quickly-bit-rotting 3.5.10? |
| Xu_R | it has. I'm supposed to be packaging it. >_> but Ilya is stuck in his old KDE3 ways... |
| KingSphinx | But Trinity works with all previous KDE3 apps, doesn't it? |
| Xu_R | it does |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: there are Trinity patches in there |
| Z_God | and Trinity also have multiple patches from SUSE |
| KingSphinx | Seems kinda quick-and-dirty if you ask me. |
| Z_God | it's not completely separate |
| Z_God | Ilya probably doesn't like the TQt idea (yet) |
| Xu_R | ... |
| KingSphinx | The guy's insane to not fully adopt Trinity IMO. |
| Xu_R | Ilya put KDE2 and claimed it is awesome. |
| MobileTurkey_ | Xu_R needs to get the packages done so we can just no longer deal with Ilya |
| MobileTurkey_ | ya? |
| Xu_R | yea |
| Edogaa | what is illya? |
| KingSphinx | There's a screenshot of KDE 2 running on openSUSE 11.2 on Wikipedia. |
| Z_God | Ilya contributes patches from time to time though |
| Z_God | I don't think it's bad |
| Z_God | really? |
| MobileTurkey_ | yes that is good |
| KingSphinx | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kde2.2.2-1.png |
| MobileTurkey_ | <my freaking chrome browser wont automatically scroll down, so every new message I have to scroll....RAHHH> |
| Z_God | it looks real |
| Z_God | with that kernel version |
| MobileTurkey_ | did everyone get my email about the meeting? |
| Xu_R | yup |
| Z_God | I'm impressed |
| MobileTurkey_ | Xu_R: Can you facilitate it? |
| Z_God | I got it through the dev list yep |
| Xu_R | I can, but I need a day. |
| KingSphinx | The one thing I like about KDE 2: that granite background in just about everything. I'm a bit of a sucker for old-school stuff like that. :P |
| Xu_R | oh wait |
| rzs19 | soo, i have to go home, wish you a nice evening. |
| * Xu_R facepalms xD | |
| Xu_R | yes, I can |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: all this stuff is available in KDE 3 as well |
| Z_God | and it's not KDE 2's default setting either |
| KingSphinx | You can do that granite stuff? How? I never could figure that out in 3.5.12 |
| Z_God | KDE 2.2.2 and 3.0 were pretty much the same |
| Z_God | it was mainly a port from Qt2 to Qt3 |
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| Z_God | you can set such backgrounds for your desktop & kicker I think |
| KingSphinx | I got how to get the klassik (pardon the pun) theme and icons, but I could never figure out how to get that stone look. |
| KingSphinx | Not the wallpaper, that's easy as pie to figure out. |
| Z_God | you can set an image for kicker as well |
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| Z_God | in the panel prefs |
| Z_God | appearancee |
| Z_God | below panel background |
| KingSphinx | Oh, I know that... speaking of which, in 3.5.12, the Kicker images were in two separate spots, so it got a bit tedious trying to switch between them. |
| MobileTurkey_ | git checkouts taking forever :| |
| KingSphinx | The default was in the proper /opt/kde3/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers location, but the rest were still in /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers for some reason. |
| Z_God | the other way around it seems |
| Z_God | but it's probably a bug |
| KingSphinx | Can't check to see if it's fixed in 3.5.13 because the mirrors aren't working yet. |
| Z_God | Martin replied btw |
| MobileTurkey_ | ? |
| MobileTurkey_ | oh thanks |
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| Edogaa | D: Y U BROKEN LE MIRRORS |
| Piki | ? |
| Z_God | damn |
| Xu_R | Edogaa: Still not synced yet? >_> tim needs a backup mirror or a smart one... |
| Z_God | Trinity is on Slashdot! |
| Xu_R | :O nice |
| Xu_R | let ze trolling begin... |
| Z_God | in the comments people are writing the server is already being slashdotted |
| MobileTurkey_ | yay :) |
| Xu_R | xD |
| MobileTurkey_ | the server is under alot of load I assume |
| MobileTurkey_ | I just wish he had more throughput |
| MobileTurkey_ | and some stability, his provider goes down quite often |
| Piki | probably uses verizon :-) |
| MobileTurkey_ | no |
| MobileTurkey_ | verizon is rock solid |
| MobileTurkey_ | I love me some verizon. |
| Piki | seems most of the ISPs in the USA aren't very reliable |
| MobileTurkey_ | it works, its extremely stable. |
| MobileTurkey_ | mine is rock solid. Verizon Fios. |
| Piki | MobileTurkey_, you haven't used my verizon connection |
| MobileTurkey_ | never ever goes down |
| Xu_R | they finally wired FiOS here. ^_^ |
| MobileTurkey_ | my power goes out before my internet does |
| Piki | drops off once a week for a few hours, speeds tend to fluctuate |
| MobileTurkey_ | if only linus endorsed trinity... |
| MobileTurkey_ | we can dream. |
| Piki | and this is on a fios connection that we've had for 1.5 years |
| KingSphinx | Maybe he doesn't know of it yet? |
| Piki | most of the people i talk to loathe verizon, very few actually like it |
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| MobileTurkey_ | Piki: I loathe it for some other practices and my high bills, my terrible speeds, but it is rock solid |
| MobileTurkey_ | I need to get business class, then i'll be happy |
| Piki | it drops off all the time here |
| Piki | every week, speeds are good IF they aren't fluctuating, they can't find out why we're having trouble, and they never send out their techs like they say they will, nor do they have record of having scheduled a tech to come out |
| Piki | plus it's expensive |
| Piki | unfortunately, i don't pay the bill, my mother does, and she thinks that since Linux is a virus (right....), i'm causing the troubl |
| MobileTurkey_ | yea |
| MobileTurkey_ | well :P |
| Edogaa | >_> |
| Edogaa | if my mom said that i'd tell her off for it lol... |
| Edogaa | not to sound mean :/ |
| Edogaa | I Mean sure, being ignorant of how to use an OS as complicated as linux is not a problem b ut that is like the border ofi gnorance that breaks mys kull lol |
| KingSphinx | It's really interesting going throough the comments on Slashdot... |
| Piki | if i tried to tell off my mom, i'd not have a home |
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| Piki | Harmonium, there might be a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ that has the trinity repository references |
| Piki | hey! tbottu's back! *checks the site* |
| MutantTurkey | woohooo! |
| Piki | yep, site's back |
| MutantTurkey | yay! |
| * MutantTurkey can get back to working on the roadmap | |
| KingSphinx | But that means a ton of stuff never got logged, right? |
| Piki | KingSphinx, in this channel? right, it only gets logged when tbottu's here |
| Harmonium | sources.list.d is empty. Should I add the new repositories in there? |
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| Piki | Harmonium, if you want, you can either create a new file in sources.list.d containing the lines, or you can add them directly to sources.list |
| Space_Man | there is a typo on the roadmap, the date for the last line should be in 2012] |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: can you modify it? |
| MutantTurkey | actually dont worry |
| anditosan | well, the site is back up and I added the sources for oneiric and the gpg key but the kubuntu-default-desktop and trinty one do not show |
| MutantTurkey | I am already editing it |
| Space_Man | I tried, but the wiki said something about "access" |
| Piki | Harmonium, go to http://trinitydesktop.org/ and choose your ubuntu/kubuntu version from the Official Trinity Binaries section |
| Piki | it will tell you what lines to add |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: do you have an account? |
| Harmonium | Oh, my bad, .d is not empty. There it is. |
| Piki | Harmonium, if it's there, you can find the new lines on trinitydesktop.org, just modify the lines to match the new versions |
| Harmonium | That's done. Now should I just run the update program? |
| Piki | yes |
| MutantTurkey | aye |
| Space_Man | MutantTurkey: yes, I created it a few months ago |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: weird then |
| MutantTurkey | Actually I cant even access it at all yet |
| MutantTurkey | oh here we go |
| Harmonium | Great, there are all the new packages. That was easier than expected. Now nothing horrible should happen during the update. |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | good luck! :D |
| Harmonium | It appears Amarok and K3b will be removed during the update. Why? |
| KingSphinx | D: I still can't install it... |
| MutantTurkey | Harmonium: amarok from trinity? |
| Space_Man | finally logged in "Access check on Developers.3_5_14_Roadmap failed. Action "CHANGE": access not allowed on web." |
| Piki | Harmonium, if you don't interrupt the update, it should be fine. worst case, you'll just need to reset your settings for tde |
| Space_Man | maybe becuase it's already open? |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: no |
| MutantTurkey | I dont have it open now |
| Harmonium | Must be. This is the kubuntu 10.10 iso from the trinity site. |
| MutantTurkey | I may have admin access on my wiki permissions |
| MutantTurkey | not to sure |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: if you want to make notes for the release, add it to the etherpa |
| Piki | Harmonium, does it want to remove amarok or amarok-trinity? (if you don't have the -trinity in the package name, it's not amarok from trinity) |
| Piki | you can also search for amarok and check what version you have installed |
| Harmonium | no, the packages just say "amarok-kde3" and "k3b-kde3" |
| MutantTurkey | the kde3' name scheme has been replaces with -trinity |
| Piki | hmm, did tim name the packages differently for ubuntu than he did for debian? |
| MutantTurkey | no, old ones are called -kde3 |
| Harmonium | Ah, I see. Thanks. |
| MutantTurkey | they are transition packages to the new name -trinity |
| MutantTurkey | Harmonium: you can probably install amarok-trinity |
| Harmonium | hmm... I got an error during the update. Window titled "Could not commit changes", says commiting would break packages or there was a problem downloading the packages... |
| Piki | mirrors might not be finished grabbing the new packages |
| Piki | tim's servers did go down before it could finish sending out the new packages |
| Harmonium | I opened the updater again. Now in the list there are two packages named "guidance-backends-kde3" and "kde-style-qtcurve-kde3" that say "BROKEN (installed)" |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| MutantTurkey | honestly I dont really know how it works because you installed using the livecd |
| MutantTurkey | Harmonium: I suggest you post on the mailing list, responses are quick and it'll reach a wider crowd |
| MutantTurkey | maybe someone knows! (tim) |
| Piki | if it has synaptic, that has an option to fix broken packages |
| Piki | there's also "-f install" for apt-get |
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| Harmonium | I'd rather solve it here or leave it be. Luckily, it's just a virtual machine, so no biggie if it breaks. |
| Harmonium | I'll try with apt-get |
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| Harmonium | apt-get -f and with --fix-missing kinda starts, but gives a 404 error. Is the server down or something? |
| Z_God | this comment may be interesting btw: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2505962&cid=37926384 |
| Z_God | would be cool if Trinity devs would be able to visit such events |
| KingSphinx | What's Trinity's name for Krita? |
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| Z_God | Piki: normally yes, but I would not expect that in this case |
| Z_God | didn't check though ;) |
| Piki | might be something like krita-trinity, koffice-krita-trinity, or something of the likes. best to search the package manager and see what comes up |
| KingSphinx | Can't search it right no- oooohh, right, you don't need to have it installed to search Trinity packages... duh |
| Space_Man | hasn't krita been renamed? |
| Space_Man | or maybe I'm thinking of another K name |
| Piki | i thought we were keeping the same names? |
| MutantTurkey | what |
| MutantTurkey | does krita even build still? :x |
| Harmonium | Piki, that returns me an error that says I'm not superuser... even though I tried it with sudo. I'll restart and try again. |
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| KingSphinx | "Konversation terminated!" <--- Always fun to read in a drmatic voice. |
| MutantTurkey | fast reboot... |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: like the halo: combat evolved voice |
| MutantTurkey | DOUBLE KILL |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
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| Harmonium | It's a virtual machine. |
| Harmonium | OK, I still get the no superuser error when running that command. o_O |
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| MutantTurkey | off to band practice - making good progress on trinity + arch though... |
| Harmonium | are you all developers of this project? |
| KingSphinx | Some are, some aren't (I'm not) |
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| Harmonium | This project needs more publicity. It's a great idea and it's not getting enough attention. |
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| KingSphinx | :o Site's up! |
| Piki | eh? i must have been awake all night without realizing, i didn't think it had been 12 hours yet :-) |
| KingSphinx | Well, the site's been down for quite a while today, we thought all the attention at Slashdot had brought it down for a while. |
| Piki | i didn't realize an entirely different website on an entirely different server in (probably) an entirely different location could drag down trinitydesktop.org |
| KingSphinx | Yep, too many people trying to access a smaller site at once can crash it. It's called "the Slashdot effect" for a reason. |
| Piki | never heard of the slashdot effect |
| Piki | sounds more like an unintentional DDoS :-) |
| KingSphinx | You'd be right. |
| KingSphinx | Burning a Debian Lenny live CD just to play around with. :) |
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| Piki | KingSphinx, i thought lenny didn't work for you? |
| KingSphinx | That was an install CD, not a Debian Live version. |
| Piki | i didn't know debian have live cds? |
| KingSphinx | It also must be noted that the broken Lenny CD was for Xfce/LXDE, I downloaded a KDE spin this time. And yes, Debian does have live spins. |
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| user1557 | I'm having problems trying to install 3.5.13. Can someone please help? |
| Piki | user1557, the main servers have been down for awhile, that' probably why you're have problems |
| Piki | they seem to be up now, so if you want to try and see if it works, go ahead, and lets us know if you're still having trouble |
| user1557 | I just tried a minute ago, and I am able to import the GPG key, but get "Unable to locate package kubuntu-default-settings-trinity", etc when trying to install |
| Piki | did you do "sudo apt-get update" before trying to install? |
| user1557 | yes. this is on Xubuntu 11.10 |
| edogaa | :/ Hmm, I seriously wonder why I get those circulat dependecny is it? issue... |
| edogaa | lemme cp |
| user1557 | When I try to just get kdebase-trinity, I get "Package kdebase-trinity is not available, but is referred to by another package.", etc |
| Piki | user1557, did you add the lines to /etc/apt/sources.list that the instructions have? the lines from http://trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#ubuntu? |
| user1557 | When I try to get kdebase-kde3, I get "kdebase-kde3 : Depends: kdebase-trinity but it is not installable" |
| user1557 | Piki: yes |
| edogaa | http://pastebin.com/306QpSAM |
| edogaa | is it because the servers aren't synced right still o.O |
| Piki | might be, tim said it would take from 24-48 hours to sync after his servers came back |
| Piki | user1557, edogaa, try replacing the lines from the instructions with http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/ |
| user1557 | ok, I did try that earlier, but l'll try again |
| Piki | you only need replace the http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/ part, everything else should be the same |
| Piki | so http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/... and http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/... |
| Piki | don't know if fedora is there, and i don't know if all of the versions of ubuntu are there |
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| Piki | but it seems some of the stuff did make it |
| KingSphinx | Welp, I now have a fresh Debian Lenny drink coaster... somehow, Lenny Live starts ina video mode that my monitor cannot display. |
| Piki | user1557, edogaa, if it doesn't work using uidaho, then you guys will just have to wait for the packages to continue syncing out |
| user1557 | Yeah, it gave me the same message. |
| Piki | they were supposed to have already started going out earlier today, but with tim's ISP going down, they probably aren't anywhere close to going out |
| Piki | or at least, not close to finishing |
| user1557 | I thought the Slashdot story would probably wreck the servers |
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| Piki | that's what everyone was saying, but tim said something about his ISP cutting their fiber optic cables when he was here earlier |
| KingSphinx | I have a feeling Slashdot may have caused the initial outage, because I recall the site going back up for a brief while before dying again. |
| Piki | and fiber optics are supposed to be hard to repair/replace |
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| user1557 | Yeah, I didn't know 3.5.13 was out until I checked Slashdot. Serves me right I guess. lol |
| Piki | i didn't know until i looked at trinitydesktop.org today, right before it died the first time |
| Piki | that's when i first heard about the slashdot article :-) |
| user1557 | OS News ran an article on it too. Nice to see Trinity getting some attention. |
| n0xx0ff | humm... so i guess the repos are down right? :| |
| Piki | so of course when i go to download the source code (i'm going to be making packages for another distro), i get cut off and now i need to use uidaho until tim's servers stabilize :-) |
| Piki | n0xx0ff, partially down |
| user1557 | of course! |
| n0xx0ff | bummer... :( |
| KingSphinx | Use uidaho's mirrors until the "real" ones come back. |
| Piki | tim's servers were down most of the day, that's where the mirrors get their packages, and the packages were en route to the mirrors when tim's servers went down |
| KingSphinx | Any idea how much made it to uidaho? |
| Piki | uidaho has most of the packages, should work for /some/ versions of ubuntu/debian, not sure hich |
| Piki | n0xx0ff, the servers came back just a few minutes ago, so more packages should be going out |
| user1557 | Piki, thanks for the help. I'll try again tomorrow |
| n0xx0ff | yeah ty Piki... :) |
| n0xx0ff | cya m8s |
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| KingSphinx | Blah... I want to use uidaho, but I don't know if I'd be left with only a partially-working system because of missing stuff. |
| Piki | KingSphinx, if you'll be missing stuff, apt-get won't even proceed |
| Piki | it'll tell you something like "not available but it's referred to by another package" or "depends on ... but it's not installable" or something similar |
| KingSphinx | The wonders of failsafes. :P |
| Piki | i think it has the --force option, but i don't recommend it :-) |
| KingSphinx | Guess I should get around to trying to get Trinity then. |
| Piki | if you're in lenny, it should alread be there since .12 was synced awhile ago :-) |
| KingSphinx | No, still in Kubuntu, I only burned the Lenny CD to toy around in the Live CD environment. Turns out the display doesn't work though, so I pretty much have a Lenny-labeled drink coaster. |
| Piki | if it was a RW, erase it and reuse it :-) |
| KingSphinx | So what would I add instead of the main repos? And no, sadly, it was only an R |
| edogaa | HMm |
| edogaa | I don't think that link you sent me will work, I took a look at the file hierarchy and I only see debian or ubuntu stuff on there |
| Piki | KingSphinx, deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/ubuntu and http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu |
| Piki | everything else the same |
| Piki | edogaa, didn't look at the fedora/redhat instructions, just noticed yum in your pastebin ;-) |
| KingSphinx | I meant for the uidaho mirror, I don't think pearson is quite fully up yet. |
| Piki | edogaa, the site is back, so you can try the instructions there again |
| Piki | KingSphinx, oops, hold on, |
| Piki | KingSphinx, http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ , http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ |
| edogaa | same thing |
| Piki | edogaa, http://trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#redhat |
| KingSphinx | I'm trying pearson once again to see if by some miracle it's back, but thanks for the info, I'll add it if pearson won't work. |
| edogaa | followed that |
| Piki | edogaa, the mirrors may not be sync'ed yet, i don't even know if tim's quickbuild has rpms, last i checked it only did debs. those repo files it has you download might point to someone else's mirror, or they may be in tim's servers but not synced yet |
| KingSphinx | Piki: I think I screwed up adding those to sources.list. Konsole threw up " |
| KingSphinx | philip@philip-Dell-DXP061:~$ sudo apt-get update |
| KingSphinx | E: Malformed line 63 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) |
| KingSphinx | E: The list of sources could not be read. |
| KingSphinx | ...wow that all pasted? |
| Piki | KingSphinx, what's on line 63 of /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| KingSphinx | eb http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ |
| KingSphinx | deb http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/ubuntu/er. |
| KingSphinx | God, it's not pasting right, hang on. |
| KingSphinx | deb http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ |
| KingSphinx | That's line 63 in my sources.list. |
| Piki | if that's it, you're missing two things |
| KingSphinx | Add /dists/oneiric/ to it? |
| Piki | nope |
| Piki | deb http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ oneiric main |
| Piki | it goes: deb [base-url] [distro-or-distro-version] [specific-repos-to-access] |
| Piki | the last part is separated by spaces |
| Piki | if you want to add a repo that contains the distro-specific source code packages rather than the binary packages, you'd start it with deb-src instead of deb |
| Piki | you can copy both of the uidaho lines and start them with deb-src if you want/need the source code used for oneirc |
| KingSphinx | Even if I don't, I always add deb-src to repos just in case. |
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| Piki | if the repo maintainers provide f\oss project and they don't provide the source code, something's wrong :-) there should always be a deb-src available |
| KingSphinx | *sigh* Still can't install Trinity, getting the same errors about packages not found. |
| Piki | even if the user chooses not to include it :-) |
| Piki | KingSphinx, probably not finished syncing yet, if you have natty available, i think mutantturtle said he was able to install it on that |
| KingSphinx | Then that means I'm hosed, I use Oneiric. |
| Piki | i don't use any of them |
| KingSphinx | What do you use then? |
| Piki | nor any of the distros that already have packages available :-) |
| Piki | i use Ark Linux |
| Piki | been awhile since a release, we keep running into our road blocks, i think our last stable release has kde 3.5.10 |
| Piki | i need to get tde packages going for our development version |
| Piki | i'm about ready to kick our head dev though, he really needs to get things going with either apt-rpm5 or the rpm5 port of zypper, been nagging him about that for months, it's the only reason i don't have .12 packaged already :-) |
| Piki | unfortunately i'm not in switzerland and i doubt he's coming to pgh, so i /can't/ kick him |
| KingSphinx | Wow, Ark uses both RPM and APT? |
| Piki | our stable releases all use RPM4 and apt |
| Piki | but the apt-rpm port of apt wasn't ported to rpm5 until recently, and we switched to rpm5 for our development version |
| Piki | our head dev started porting zypper to rpm5, then seems to have quit on that when apt-rpm5 was done, now he doesn't seem to be doing anything with the package manager |
| Piki | but i still see his packages being updated |
| Piki | and his build server doesn't auto-update, and he has been on our irc channel, but he seems undecided on it |
| Piki | until he decides, i'm stuck with an iso from january because too much has updated for me to bother installing the new rpms by hand |
| Piki | *sigh* if only we could release, since we're for newbies, we could bring newbie attention to tde, more potential testers and coders for both tde and ark |
| KingSphinx | Ark seems about as newbie-friendly as older versions of Ubuntu... that's a compliment, the newer releases of Ubuntu do a bit too much hand-holding for my taste |
| Piki | um... us Arkies would rather not be compared to ubuntu, we hate it :-) |
| Piki | especially our head dev, he thinks they're owned by microsoft ;-) |
| Piki | i personally don't hate it, i just dislike it, it has gotten better, but still not good enough for my tastes |
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| edogaa | hmm |
| edogaa | using both apt and rpm seems a bit messy |
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| duindain | Hi, im trying to install this on ubuntu 11.10 and its failing on the last part of the install instructions |
| duindain | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| duindain | does anyone know how to fix this? |
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| duindain | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| duindain | Reading package lists... Done |
| duindain | Building dependency tree |
| duindain | Reading state information... Done |
| duindain | E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-default-settings-trinity |
| duindain | E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 576 filed by a9926242@nepwk.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=576 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kubuntu mirrors broken |
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| kion | hey there, I have trouble updating to 3.5.13 from 3.5.12 - looks like not all packages are there on server so far... is it (release) still in progress? |
| Z_God | kion: yes, you will have to wait till at least Friday |
| kion | oh, I see. thanks a lot for the quick reply! |
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| Fleck | 64bit kubuntu |
| Fleck | addes sources |
| Fleck | E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-default-settings-trinity and E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| kion | as was just answered above - you have to wait until at least Friday - not all packages are on the server (release in progress). |
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| Fleck | ok thx |
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| Lovecraft | Any idea how to fix this after having followed the installation instructions on trinitydesktop.org for Debian? E: Package 'kde-trinity' has no installation candidate |
| Fleck | :) |
| Fleck | Lovecraft work in progress |
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| Lovecraft | Thats too bad. |
| Fleck | [14:02:11] <kion> as was just answered above - you have to wait until at least Friday - not all packages are on the server (release in progress). |
| Fleck | :) |
| Lovecraft | I see. |
| Fleck | i had the same q. :) |
| Lovecraft | Okay. Thanks. :) |
| Lovecraft | well rod rammit. |
| Lovecraft | happy trails. |
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| Cypress_ | Hi people. I am currently trying to install Trinity in Ubuntu Natty. I added the proper repositories but when I launch ”sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity” it gives me E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-default-settings-trinity / Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| Cypress_ | could anyone tell me what the package name for the entire DE is? |
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| fos | Cypress_: the names are correct, but the repositories aren't up to date yet. |
| Cypress_ | I see. Thank you. |
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| juan3 | hello |
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| Fleck | hey juan3, whats up? |
| juan3 | I have a problem installing Trinity |
| Fleck | missing packages? |
| juan3 | I can't find kde-trinity |
| Fleck | [14:02:11] <kion> as was just answered above - you have to wait until at least Friday - not all packages are on the server (release in progress). |
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| juan3 | ahh ok |
| juan3 | thank you |
| Fleck | np :) |
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| ian_ | I read that a new release was out so I ran an apt-get update on my Debian Squeeze which uses Trinity. Nothing was updated. When I looked into this further I discovered that it's been released in such a way as to need a whole new set of entries in sources.list. This seems to be a poor way to release an update for Debian packages. |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | it was quite necessary because it's an entirely new release |
| MutantTurkey | some package names changed etc |
| MutantTurkey | especially since some people will continue running 3.5.12 on systems that are too old for 5.13 |
| ian_ | It's numbered as a point release, .12 to .13. What's the recommended way of updating? Do I have to remove the old one first? What happens if I don't? Do I do apt-get update or apt-get install? |
| MutantTurkey | first you should read this mailing list post that just came out |
| MutantTurkey | (just read it myself) |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3292 |
| ian_ | Thanks for that, MT. I'm not on the mailing list so I hadn't seen it. So it looks as if it might be worth waiting for a day or two. |
| ian_ | But if the release team are reading this it might be worth making clear to users what's the best way for .12 users to update. |
| MutantTurkey | ian_: I suggest you get on the announcement ML, it's very low traffic, but has information like that. |
| ian_ | Maybe - but really stuff like that should be there for all to see and not dependent on users being on a mailing list for cognoscenti. |
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| _Pete_ | howdy, tried to install trinity to ubuntu oneiric according to instructions |
| _Pete_ | but there's no kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity packages |
| _Pete_ | added repos correctly and did apt-get update ... |
| _Pete_ | what am I missing? |
| Space_Man | _Pete_: [15:09] <MutantTurkey> http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3292 |
| _Pete_ | okie, thx |
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| MutantTurkey | cant use more than one core at a time to build kdelibs :| |
| MutantTurkey | takes forever this way. |
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| elwood | hi all |
| elwood | i've added the line on my sources.list but apt is ignoring the repo. Any ideas? |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | did you do apt-get update first? |
| MutantTurkey | also |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3292 |
| MutantTurkey | read |
| elwood | yes i've added the gpg key and update. during apt-get update it says nothing and then |
| elwood | E: Impossibile trovare il pacchetto kubuntu-default-settings-trinity ...and apt-get policy gives me nothing |
| elwood | well, I'm on ubuntu 11.10 |
| MutantTurkey | read that link |
| MutantTurkey | very relevant |
| elwood | ok |
| elwood | oh sorry, but at least I'm not crazy :) |
| elwood | MutantTurkey, are you using kde.trinity? I'm going to install it on my eeepc, i'm tired of gnome shell |
| MutantTurkey | yes I use trinity |
| MutantTurkey | definitely very sick of gnome shell as well >_> |
| elwood | I hope it will be suitable for everyday use, lxde is not so "complete" |
| MutantTurkey | I agree |
| MutantTurkey | It is quite goo dfor daily use, I have it on my work-related laptop |
| MutantTurkey | quite enjoy it (after some personal tweaking ;) |
| elwood | about style and theme? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| elwood | it also has showfoto and digikam, tha's great, I will love. After friday at lease :) |
| MutantTurkey | :) yes just dont forget about it! |
| MutantTurkey | I am afraid everyone will say "okay friday", then comes friday and everyone no longer has interest |
| elwood | ahaha, no i will not,for sure |
| elwood | I'was expecting from time a 3.5 fork :) |
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| petris | Hi All, is there someone who succesfully upgraded trinity on debian stable? |
| petris | I getting redirected to http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ where a lot of packages are missing |
| petris | the configured source is http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian/ |
| _Pete_ | petris: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3292 |
| petris | _Pete_: Thanks! |
| MutantTurkey | we should just have bot automatically tell anyone who says something about "sources" "packages" or "kubuntu-desktop-trinity" them that link |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| _Pete_ | then we would have bots vs auto-bots war |
| Piki|Away | tell tim to have tbottu do that, maybe see if it's possible to have him monitor the sync and announce when it's done :-) |
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| MutantTurkey | to much work. |
| MutantTurkey | Piki|Away: for to little profit |
| Piki|Away | MutantTurkey, meh, would make things easier in the future if this happens again :-) |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully it won't |
| MutantTurkey | this release was a bit haphazard |
| Piki|Away | the keyword is hopefully, with tim's isp and his luck with keeping his servers running... :-) |
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| Firefishe | Can trinity be installed alongside the kde 4 series? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | with *minimal* damage. AKA, there shouldn't be any problems. |
| MutantTurkey | we're ironed it all out afaik |
| Firefishe | MutantTurkey: First of all, great nick! Second, just what kind of 'damage' might there be? Like having it uninsall sudo in ubuntu? (I'm reading some reviews now.) Anything I might want to be aware of? Also, i can't find a FAQ anywhere. |
| Firefishe | uninsall=uninstall |
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| MutantTurkey | :P |
| edogaa | >_> HMm |
| MutantTurkey | KDE4 won' cause trinity to mess anything up |
| rzs19 | i hope trinity is not a "kde4 dont work for me so i need a temporay solution" project. i hope its more a we go the kde3 way and they go the kde4 way. just different desktops... |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: thats the idea. |
| KingSphinx | That's pretty much the plan. |
| MutantTurkey | I would have said it was temporary a year ago |
| MutantTurkey | or two |
| MutantTurkey | but it's 2011. |
| MutantTurkey | almost 2012 |
| MutantTurkey | KDE3 has been dead since 2008. |
| MutantTurkey | we're not exactly new kids on the block like MATE |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 577 filed by tiagomnm@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=577 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kicker has two white dots on edges of taskbar |
| KingSphinx | IMO, KDE3 looks a whole lot better than Plasma's default look. |
| rzs19 | i just want to say this :) to clear some dark corners in my head |
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| MutantTurkey | corners cleared then |
| edogaa | hmm, I tried mangafrance again and noticed I can't get trinity-kdepim o.O |
| edogaa | I go in to the link and notice it's listed there lol |
| KingSphinx | I'm still waiting for Tim's server to come back, lol. I tried uidaho, but I wasn't able to get anything since I dunno what exactly is the right repo address for it. |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: its uidahoadsfasdfsaf.edu/pub/trinity |
| MutantTurkey | cant get freaking kdebase to build. |
| MutantTurkey | cmake wont find tqt-dbus |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| KingSphinx | Wait, you're serious about the adsfwhatever stuff in the adress? |
| edogaa | I Wonder if I can download the RPMs and install it :/ |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | I forget exactly |
| edogaa | and if it be wise... lol |
| MutantTurkey | but after the .edu |
| MutantTurkey | .edu/pub/trinity |
| MutantTurkey | ishttp://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ |
| MutantTurkey | afaik |
| MutantTurkey | http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ |
| KingSphinx | just that or do I need to add "ubuntu oneiric main" to the end of that? |
| MutantTurkey | let me check mine |
| MutantTurkey | http://ix.io/1X6 |
| MutantTurkey | thats my sources |
| rzs19 | its like, you got the best looking and cutes girlfriend and after one year she makes suicide. :( |
| MutantTurkey | find the trinity part, replace natty with oneiric |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: WHAT? :| |
| MutantTurkey | is this a analogy or a story? |
| rzs19 | ähm a mathapa |
| rzs19 | metaphor* |
| rzs19 | in this sample trinity is the cute gf :) |
| MutantTurkey | oh :) |
| rzs19 | others are in lovewith kde4 and we are in lovewith tde, this is all. :) |
| rzs19 | and now i go to mc donalds :D |
| rzs19 | cu later :) |
| KingSphinx | AAAARRRRGGGGHHH- the repos you gave me just lead to a 404. |
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| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: whats new? haha |
| MutantTurkey | kdebase won't build rah!~ |
| MutantTurkey | maybe samelian will respond and save the day |
| elwood | oh a mirror for oneiric? |
| edogaa | http://trinity.mangafrance.com/f15/trinity-3.5.13/RPMS/ |
| edogaa | I just looked in here closely and ctrl+f kdepim, I just noticed, the only kdepim thing in there is x86_64 o.O |
| edogaa | Yeah, it's still not synced up all the way is it lol |
| MutantTurkey | edogaa: did you read the email? |
| edogaa | Hmm, there was an email? |
| elwood | sure |
| elwood | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3292 |
| MutantTurkey | reading email is #1 important |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| edogaa | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh |
| edogaa | :( |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | and I am stuck around waiting too now |
| elwood | i've learned the lesson |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| KingSphinx | I'm stuck waiting as well... kinda hard when you've been eagerly awaiting the new release for a few months now. |
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| MutantTurkey | where is samelian when you need him :[ |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 578 filed by tiagomnm@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=578 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, media:/ doesn't show files, remounts unit |
| edogaa | lol,hmm at least that aaron guy doesn't feel any animosity towards TDE |
| MutantTurkey | yes he set a very harmonious tone |
| edogaa | :/ I recall him raging at someone in the buglists for spamming too much about something related to dual screen monitors and wallpapers lol |
| edogaa | Or I think it was him, so I was a little surprised XD |
| MutantTurkey | hehe |
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| KingSphinx | Aaron guy? |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: again, read your mail! |
| MutantTurkey | tiago's bug report is awesome - he found 2 TINY (1x1) pixel dots on kicker |
| MutantTurkey | thats an awesome eye for detail |
| KingSphinx | Heheh, sorry, I haven't subscribed to the Trinity mailing lists! |
| MutantTurkey | no? |
| MutantTurkey | you should do so |
| MutantTurkey | keeps you well informed |
| elwood | is really low-traffic? |
| MutantTurkey | nope |
| MutantTurkey | devel list has daily traffic |
| MutantTurkey | but there is an announce lits |
| MutantTurkey | that is only for important release information and such |
| elwood | ok |
| edogaa | going to switch to weechat |
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| edogaa | and back |
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| tonda-1337 | Hello! |
| tonda-1337 | Just installes a brand new Scientific Linux 6.1 and i'd like to install trinity on it. |
| tonda-1337 | But... |
| KingSphinx | Does Scientific Linux work with Red Hat repositories? |
| tonda-1337 | http://pastebin.com/n9zijw2u |
| tonda-1337 | yep. it should work |
| tonda-1337 | trinity's mirrors just suck. |
| tonda-1337 | :-( |
| KingSphinx | The Pearson repositories are still working on getting binary packages available. This most recent release has had a bit of a shaky time trying to get out, for several reasons. |
| edogaa | :/ sadly. |
| KingSphinx | (fiber lines being cut, Slashdot bringing it down accidentally, the last-minute addition of RHEL/Fedora repositories, you name it) |
| edogaa | D: |
| tonda-1337 | yeah. but why do they publish a tutorial for installing it on a rhel6 machine, which is not tested... |
| edogaa | :/ so will it really be back up on friday or is that just optimism? lol |
| KingSphinx | These problems were all sort of unanticipated, since Trinity's never had this kind of wide release before. |
| tonda-1337 | :-( |
| KingSphinx | This is the first release for RHEL/Fedora, and there may be openSUSE support on the way as well. |
| tonda-1337 | so there is no way to install trinity on my sl6 atm.?! :-(((( |
| edogaa | source? xD |
| tonda-1337 | yeah.. of course... but i'm lazy :-p |
| edogaa | the most dreadful and infuriating of ways D: |
| tonda-1337 | no.. i love compiling.. but i guess building trinity will take days and will end in some serious compile errors -.- |
| KingSphinx | Just out of curiosity, what desktop are you stuck with for the time being? |
| tonda-1337 | gnome |
| tonda-1337 | (2) |
| edogaa | XFCE on my end, though i can use gnome or kde4 too. :| |
| KingSphinx | Could be worse... you could be stuck on KDE 4.7 like me. |
| edogaa | lolololol xD |
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| tonda-1337 | nah. kde4 isn't that bad... i quite like it, but i like kde3 more. easier to use |
| KingSphinx | I know, I just can't resist ripping on KDE4. :P |
| KingSphinx | It's 4.7, and Plasma still crashes for odd reasons. |
| tonda-1337 | yep. got these errors on arch too... |
| KingSphinx | Whoever though making Plasma manage the entire desktop should be given a swift kick. Not only can one bad component bring the whole thing down, it goes totally against the UNIX philosophy that a program should do one thing, and do it well. |
| Fleck | i hate pulseaudio stuff, hate what they did with kmail and hate that new akonadi |
| Fleck | and few more things :D |
| tonda-1337 | ...and the new amarok.. |
| edogaa | pulseaudio, it isn't so bad these days |
| Fleck | yeah, using clementine |
| KingSphinx | I use Clementine instead of Amarok 2 |
| tonda-1337 | i'm using clementine too... it's great |
| Fleck | edogaa well it is... using hwmix card and my audio has drops and pops on 6 core cpu |
| tonda-1337 | it should be included in kde sc |
| Fleck | thats stupid! |
| Fleck | so i remove it after updates - and using pure alsa |
| Fleck | works perfectly! |
| KingSphinx | Does it pop and drop (hey, that rhymed!) on ALSA? |
| KingSphinx | Wait, never mind that. |
| Fleck | :) |
| Fleck | i miss normal desktop where i can put icons on desktop and they are aligned and in the same size |
| edogaa | yep, and were if you mass highlight the icons |
| edogaa | you can move them all at once |
| Fleck | yep! :) |
| tonda-1337 | :-) |
| edogaa | and top notch dual monitor support D: |
| Fleck | ehh, feels so nice that somebody understands and thinks in the same way i am! :) |
| KingSphinx | Granted, that mode is possible in KDE4, but it just isn't the same. |
| Fleck | and i like that mixer thingie... you can put it in panel! :) |
| Fleck | and it has small volume controls :D |
| KingSphinx | The mixer is one of the only things I couldn't figure out in KDE3; I can't get it to put sound through my USB headset. |
| tonda-1337 | they trashed all working linux desktops... kde3, gnome2... that's soo sad :-( |
| edogaa | you still have XFCE |
| edogaa | and LXDE |
| tonda-1337 | lol |
| tonda-1337 | you can't really compare them to kde3 or gnome2 |
| KingSphinx | Technically, KDE3 isn't trashed now... it's BACK FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE! :P |
| tonda-1337 | they aren't that complete and perfect |
| edogaa | and OpenBox + Tint2 + several wallpaper-like programs and every other thing you need to make a Desktoplike environment |
| edogaa | Though, you won't have usable Desktop icons :| |
| KingSphinx | And remember, GNOME 2 had 9 years to get where it was. |
| edogaa | With some functionality cut off along the way. |
| tonda-1337 | of course... these things are possible, but not as comfortable as these old DEs were like. |
| KingSphinx | To me, my DE preference is, in order: TDE>GNOME2>GNOME Shell>KDE4>Unity |
| KingSphinx | And it's not even because it's oversimplified, I hate Unity because it's still a bug-ridden piece of junk. |
| edogaa | FOr me it's KDE3/TDE > KDE4 > XFCE4 = LXDE > GNOME > WM |
| KingSphinx | ...I completely forgot about Xfce and LXDE! |
| tonda-1337 | for me : TDE>Gnome2>KDE4>Unity>Gnome3 |
| edogaa | wait, UNity is actually considered an option? |
| edogaa | OH BURN D: |
| tonda-1337 | unity is better than gnome3 |
| tonda-1337 | imo |
| KingSphinx | Okay, KDE3/TDE>GNOME2>Xfce>LXDE>KDE4>GNOME3>Unity |
| KingSphinx | That should be a bit more complete. |
| edogaa | hmm, maybe you should put feces before unity? :D |
| edogaa | XD |
| tonda-1337 | KDE3>Gnome2>Unity>XFCE>GNOME3 |
| tonda-1337 | lool |
| Fleck | ;p |
| edogaa | KDE3/TDE > KDE4 > XFCE4=LXDE > GNOME2 = GNOME3(some things i can't stand though) > WM's |
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| tonda-1337 | omg... scientific linux is soo outdated.. gnome 2.28 |
| tonda-1337 | (i know.... enterprise os..) |
| tonda-1337 | bye bye |
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| aalecs | !seen samelian |
| tbottu | aalecs: samelian was last seen in #trinity-desktop 6 weeks, 2 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <samelian> test it when you have time |
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| edogaa | hmm...curious |
| edogaa | !seen edogaa |
| tbottu | edogaa: edogaa was last seen in #trinity-desktop 4 seconds ago: <edogaa> hmm...curious |
| edogaa | You can't blame me lol... |
| Space_Man | !seen tbottu |
| tbottu | Space_Man: I have not seen tbottu. |
| edogaa | XD I was hoping it make a wisecrack like all the other bots i've seen |
| edogaa | lololol, I see some trinity stuff in packagekit |
| edogaa | But not a lot |
| MutantTurkey | sigh |
| MutantTurkey | kdebase bails out at 84% |
| edogaa | i know, i know biut i only saw it looking for font |
| edogaa | oh... thought you were signing at the time it takes |
| MutantTurkey | that too |
| KingSphinx | PackageKit has stuff from Trinity? |
| edogaa | As in, I was looking for fonts and saw trinity-fontstuffhere-morestuffhere-noarch... |
| edogaa | or something like that |
| edogaa | and that is the only thing i see. |
| KingSphinx | MutantTurkey: You don't use Ubuntu/Debian/Fedora, do you? |
| MutantTurkey | I use ubuntu for development on trinty |
| MutantTurkey | but I only used it because Archlinux didnt have Trinity packages |
| MutantTurkey | but now I am getting much progress on it |
| MutantTurkey | so maybe back to arch? |
| MutantTurkey | all I need is kdebase to build |
| KingSphinx | Fun stuff. :P |
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| MutantTurkey | rahhh! |
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| edogaa | not to sound like a jerk but i always keep finding out while having bleeding edge stuff is nice, i tend to dislike using arch. |
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| Piki | i tried it recently, what i didn't like was pacman, after using dpkg and rpm based package manager for so long, pacman seemed a bit alien to me |
| Piki | took me awhile to figure out how to add the tde repos from arch's repos, otherwise i liked arch |
| Piki | arch's wiki* |
| Piki | of course, it's still not my favorite distro :-) |
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| Aquarius | heya people |
| Space_Man | hi Aquarius |
| Aquarius | hey Space_Man.. how's it kicking bro.. |
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| KingSphinx | Wheeeeeeeeee... still waiting. |
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| KingSphinx | I just hope Trinity binaries are available by this century... >_> |
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| MutantTurkey | building again! |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: its been like a day.... |
| KingSphinx | I know, I've just been waiting for quite a while, and I had expected to have been usig it by now. :/ |
| KingSphinx | *using |
| MutantTurkey | anyway its building perfectly! |
| MutantTurkey | looks like i forgot to remove my old cmake cache :/ |
| MutantTurkey | that caused it to keep breaking |
| MutantTurkey | sigh, my life http://imgur.com/r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu/U3oLO |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | 57 percent oh yeah! |
| MutantTurkey | 76% oh yeah! |
| KingSphinx | 76% built? |
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| KingSphinx | Did it build? |
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| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: 81% and it broke :[ |
| KingSphinx | Sounds like your computer just hates you today. :P |
| MutantTurkey | holy crap its at 98 percent |
| MutantTurkey | I had to hardcode that path and thats about it. |
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| MutantTurkey | wooohooO! |
| MutantTurkey | compressing the package will take forever |
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| MutantTurkey | okay finally ready to test :x |
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| KingSphinx | Downloading Xfce now... tired of putting up with KDE4. |
| KingSphinx | In all fairness, I really should've just installed Xubuntu to begin with IMO. |
| KingSphinx | ...and the install script seems to be hung trying to get libpurple. Awesomeness. |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: arch packages are working and build! wohoo! |
| Xu_R | nice! |
| MutantTurkey | woot woot! |
| MutantTurkey | hip hip! |
| MutantTurkey | (hooray( |
| MutantTurkey | hip hip! |
| MutantTurkey | hooray! |
| MutantTurkey | hip hip! |
| MutantTurkey | Hooray! |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| Xu_R | :P |
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| KingSphinx | Oh apt-get, y u no get libpurple? |
| KingSphinx | I'm trying to install xubuntu-desktop, but it always hangs after fetching 8% of libpurple. |
| MutantTurkey | libpurple for xubuntu-desktop |
| MutantTurkey | wtf? |
| MutantTurkey | thats pidgin. |
| KingSphinx | I know, remember, Xubuntu was my first taste of Linux after all. |
| MutantTurkey | no, I love xubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | but why is libpurple being pulled in> |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| KingSphinx | For Pidgin, presumably. |
| MutantTurkey | anyway I have class in the morning. gotta catch some zzz's |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: when did that become part of Xubuntu? |
| KingSphinx | AFAIK, it's been part of Xubuntu for as long as I remember. |
| MutantTurkey | but not part of xfce |
| KingSphinx | Though my memory only goes back to Xubuntu 9.04, so take that for what you will. |
| MutantTurkey | My first install was 7.10 |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | anyway goodnight all |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: so happy its packaged :P whew |
| MutantTurkey | giant weight off my chest |
| Xu_R | :D |
| MutantTurkey | :) if you see tim let him know |
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| Strangelv | :: belatedly notices the 3.5.13 repository links he din't see the last time he looked. He cheers |
| KingSphinx | Which links? |
| * Strangelv : http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php | |
| Strangelv | "Now following the directions and wondering why it's not upgrading |
| KingSphinx | You'll have to wait until at least tomorrow for installation to work though. D: |
| Strangelv | "Okay |
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| KingSphinx | A number of mishaps have delayed binaries... |
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| * Strangelv : Rose/Miros says, "yikes" | |
| Strangelv | I've got a friend who's trying to install or reinstall, and right bfore he stopped responding in ASI MOO he mentioned that he accidentalyl downloaded and installed the KDE 4 version of Meerkat |
| Strangelv | "Does deb http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity/ubuntu/ maverick main still work? |
| KingSphinx | Dunno, haven't tried it. |
| Strangelv | "It's what I have in my sourlces.list file |
| * KingSphinx runs Oneiric, and is stuck on KDE 4 for the time being | |
| Strangelv | I've taken teh opposite approach -- I've resorted to sticking to the Meerkat, despite picking it over stabel so that I could keep up with the update schedule. |
| Strangelv | As the saying goes, the best laid plans of mice and men are generalyl bout equal... |
| Strangelv | "I'm not sure what I'd run if i couldn't run TDE. It definietly wouldn't be KDE 4 |
| Strangelv | :: would not phisically get away with hurling his $2000+ 8 core workstation across his bedroom after he had too much from KDE 4 |
| Strangelv | "nevermind that it's unlikely I'm ever going to be able to splurge that much on a machien again |
| Strangelv | "I most definitely couldn't do that now |
| KingSphinx | I probably should've just installed Xubuntu instead of Kubuntu, but I wanted to try a KDE-only approach. Not exactly an excellent idea, to be honest. |
| Strangelv | "How much has improved since 4.1? |
| Strangelv | "The only bright spot that I can remember was Konqueror |
| KingSphinx | It's improved quite a lot stability and speed-wise, but it still has odd glitches and bugs. |
| Strangelv | "The rest of it was feeling like I was in a badly designed straight jacket |
| Strangelv | "What about in terms of flexibility and customization? |
| KingSphinx | for example, Plasma crashes and tries to restart upon shutdown a lot of the time. |
| Strangelv | "TDE is configured to run almost precisely the way I want it. Crashing at shutdomwn admittedly sounds less bad than crashing at other times |
| Strangelv | ::'s configuration starts with kicker on the left edge of his screen and 144 pixels thick. He gets more esoteric from there |
| Strangelv | "The lack of autominimize admittedly was a major contriburot to my wanting to hurl my machine across the room even faster than Windows Me had me wanting to do it. The militan,t patronizing diatribes of KDE 4 partisans did not help my peace of mind |
| Strangelv | "No one was militantly trynig to ram Windows Me down my throat whether I wanted it or not |
| Strangelv | :: had a much leass heavy and expensive machine then. That machine is still running Jaunty becaues newer versions can't work with his easily confused 17" display that will spend all of its time displaying a red box that reads OUT OF RANGE with nwer versions of, well, anything |
| KingSphinx | Ever try Debian for that machine? |
| Strangelv | No, I've been too spoiled by Ubuntu's regular updates |
| Strangelv | "When I last ran Debian I was basically forced to run unstable becouse everything I needed to get a recent version of was compalied against unstable |
| Strangelv | ...and after Sarge went gold, unstable became genuinely unstable |
| Strangelv | "My friends continue to taunt me about some of the problems I had with Debian half a dozen years later |
| KingSphinx | TDE's available for Lenny and Squeeze. |
| Strangelv | "Lenny was the successor to Sarge, right? |
| KingSphinx | I... think so? |
| Strangelv | "That falls under another reason I've not returned to Debian |
| Strangelv | "Stable is great if you want to run a server |
| Strangelv | "What's the meta package to install 3.5.12? |
| Strangelv | "The update times between stable releases for a desktop or workstation are ludcrous |
| KingSphinx | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#debian |
| Strangelv | :: tells Mike to try apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity from the Debian instructions |
| * Strangelv : MikeD says, "Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop-trinity" | |
| Strangelv | drat |
| * Strangelv : MikeD says, "wheres the instructions for 3512?" | |
| KingSphinx | I wouldn't know, sorry. You're still on Maverick? |
| * Strangelv nods | |
| Strangelv | "and that's what Mike's trying to install |
| Strangelv | Or rather, has installed and is tryingto get TDE running on it |
| Strangelv | "What was the old peorson computing URL? I'm having trouble finding it easily |
| KingSphinx | The URLs now point to 3.5.13, though I think the "current" ISOs still provide 3.5.12. |
| Strangelv | "Hisl ISP imposes a quota, though |
| KingSphinx | http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/index_desktop.html |
| Strangelv | "Looking focr the old URL so I can look with the Internet Archive for the package name |
| KingSphinx | Try replacing "trinity-v3.5.13" in the Ubuntu repo with "trinity-v3.5.12"? Other than that, I don't know what I can really do. |
| Strangelv | "BTW, Mike believes the site is still a disorganized mess |
| Strangelv | Right now he's looking for his pen drive that migght still have thte Meerkat disc image |
| Strangelv | "He found it |
| KingSphinx | Great! |
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| edogaa | :| |
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| Space_Man | are the 3.5.13 mirrors working? |
| Strangelv | :: tries again |
| * Strangelv : E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-default-settings-trinity | |
| * Strangelv : E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop-trinity | |
| Strangelv | "DOe.sn't look like they're working yet |
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| kleinie | hi |
| Strangelv | "Hello. As of two minuets ago the 3.5.13 mirrors are'nt working yet |
| kleinie | can i ask for some help? i want give a try to trinit-desktop, but i cannot install it on debian squeeze, kde-trinity package is not exist |
| _Pete_ | kleinie: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3292 |
| Strangelv | "The directions on the site are a source of confusion right now -- I'mwushing I had a handy versionof the older version as what's up doesn't work right this minute, but might for IIRC Lenny |
| Strangelv | "Lenny was the successor to Sarge or was it Squeeze? |
| * Strangelv lost track after defecting from Debian/Libranet to Kubuntu in 2005 | |
| * Strangelv : http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php | |
| Strangelv | "if it doesn't wokrl for you right now it might in 24 hours or so |
| Space_Man | " binary packages will not be available for download until Friday, November 4, 2011 at the earliest." |
| Space_Man | it's Friday |
| kleinie | yeah, i've read the news |
| Strangelv | "Would be nice to have the not yet obsolete directions |
| Space_Man | they would be useful |
| kleinie | will it work, if i try to compile it from source? |
| Space_Man | the repo's for 3.5.12 and ubuntu maverick or natty http://paste.debian.net/142618/ |
| Space_Man | kleinie: I don't know |
| kleinie | i'm impatient :) |
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| Strangelv | "Are there two meta-packages or just one? |
| Strangelv | "one of them might be kubuntu-desktop-kde3 |
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| jimmer_gabe | is there a dependency list for the trinity code-pile? |
| * Strangelv , the wrong person to ask, looks at Space_Man | |
| Z_God | Strangelv: it's kubuntu-desktop-trinity now I think |
| Z_God | all -kde3 is -trinity in the new version |
| Strangelv | "The new version isn't working yet |
| Strangelv | "As of about half an hour ago |
| * Strangelv has had more than one person ask for directions since the page with the not yet current direction went up, and one of those people were asking someplaec other than here | |
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| Z_God | according to timothy, it would definitely not work before friday |
| Z_God | but I think we'd better wait longer |
| Z_God | especially since it's only night there as well |
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| Fleck | its 5day! |
| Fleck | 14:34pm here allready |
| * Strangelv granuitously confirms that we're still not there yet | |
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| duindain | whats the eta on the mirrors being up? |
| duindain | E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-default-settings-trinity |
| duindain | E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| Strangelv | It's a guessing game; by muessi s soemoen would pop up in here and tell us if it was ready |
| Strangelv | "My guess, as well |
| duindain | ok |
| duindain | yesturday they said wait till friday |
| Z_God | it was "at least till Friday" ;) |
| Z_God | for testing, it's already possible to download the Fedora live-cd I guess |
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| feindbild | hi :) |
| Strangelv | "Hello. In answer to your most probable question, it's not ready yet |
| feindbild | I'd like to clone http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/?a=summary&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment%20Packaging but I can't find the git URL anywhere :o) |
| Strangelv | "Z-God mentioned a Fedora LiveCD if that's of value, not that i know where it is |
| * Strangelv needs to learn Git; does that count? | |
| feindbild | :P |
| feindbild | bot? |
| Strangelv | "tbottu is the bot |
| Strangelv | I don't remember its feature set, though |
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| rzs19 | hello :) |
| feindbild | hi :) |
| rzs19 | sounds your listen to "feindflug" |
| feindbild | lol, occasionally :P |
| rzs19 | nice |
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| feindbild | do you happen to know the git url for http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/?a=summary&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment%20Packaging ? I can't find it anywhere and all the other svn urls I found are out of date too |
| feindbild | kind of silly the web frontend doesn't give you any git URL's ^^ |
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| Fleck | any plans on makein trinbuntu? :D |
| Fleck | *making |
| feindbild | me? no, trinarch, as soon as I get my hands on the PKGBUILDs so I don't have to redo all the work |
| * Strangelv still visualises a tuba logo when he thinkis Tubuntu | |
| Strangelv | "We probabyrl do need a separate name from Kubuntu. It confuses people |
| Fleck | tubuntu is nace name too :D |
| Fleck | omg |
| Fleck | *nice |
| feindbild | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/ <- wait, do you need an account just to clone? O_o Anyone got a public clone up? |
| Z_God | feindbild: you need the packaging scripts? |
| Z_God | the trinity code itself is still in KDE's subversion repository |
| feindbild | Z_God: yes :) |
| Z_God | ok, then I can't help you, I don't know anything about trinity git |
| Z_God | sorry |
| feindbild | Z_God: need the scripts, having access to the repo would be nice so I can send patches ;) |
| feindbild | ok, thanks :) |
| Z_God | the repo with the code is here: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/ |
| feindbild | Z_God: yes, found that :) But I don#t want to start from scratch with the build scripts :/ |
| Z_God | which distro are you using? |
| feindbild | Z_God: archlinux |
| Z_God | I think there is someone working on getting arch packages ready |
| Z_God | you should hang in here & he will probably show up :) |
| feindbild | aah, cool, thanks :) |
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| Space_Man | 3Buntu, Tribuntu or UbuntuTrinity |
| Space_Man | and the mirrors are still borked :( |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 579 filed by raron@vipmail.hu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=579 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok don't start, amarokapp: symbol lookup error |
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| KingSphinx | Well, today's supposedly the day... |
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| Space_Man | "... not be available for download until Friday, November 4, 2011 at the earliest." |
| Space_Man | KingSphinx: give it some more time :P |
| KingSphinx | I know... by the way, I borked my Kubuntu install last night, and I reinstalled using Xubuntu. Very light, but Xubuntu has problems with stuff like USB headsets. |
| KingSphinx | More specifically, Xubuntu won't work with my USB headset's volume control properly. Oh, the applet will show the bar going up/down with my volume, but the actual volume level doesn't change. |
| KingSphinx | I suspect mixer conflicts because both ALSA and Pulse seem to have been installed. |
| Edogaa | >_< Moar tiem |
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| Edogaa | bac |
| Edogaa | back* |
| Edogaa | out of curiosity, how does TDEs volume control work when Pulse is installed? |
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| Space_Man | it works quite well |
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| Aquarius | hiya. |
| Aquarius | can anyone tell me how to upgrade to 3.5.13? |
| kleinie | which distro? |
| Edogaa | If on Fedora, lots and lots of patience |
| Edogaa | :( |
| Aquarius | Debian |
| kleinie | then no way |
| Aquarius | hm. Why is that? |
| kleinie | squeeze? |
| Aquarius | yep. |
| kleinie | broken depency |
| Aquarius | hm... |
| Aquarius | ok. |
| kleinie | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3292 |
| Aquarius | what if Ubuntu? |
| Edogaa | :( |
| kleinie | i didn't tried ubuntu, but i think binary packages are not working neither in ubuntu, neither in debian |
| Aquarius | i see... |
| Aquarius | too bad. |
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| Aquarius | anyways.. i'm happy with the current version still... but i have some settings issues... audio is still not resolved. |
| seeks | Hey guys, I have a question about installing this under Ubuntu 11.10... |
| Aquarius | requires some delicate configuration. |
| Aquarius | won't work. Try 11.04. |
| seeks | Hmm. |
| Aquarius | 11.10 is not yet supported by Trinity as far as i'm concerned. |
| seeks | Well, that's too bad I guess |
| seeks | Will just adding Natty's sources for apt work? |
| Aquarius | no idea. |
| seeks | Fair enough. |
| seeks | Alright, thanks. |
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| kleinie | oneiric is supported in 3.5.13, isn't it? |
| Space_Man | you could add Oneric's source lines and then install the kubuntu-trinity desktop |
| Space_Man | there isn't a Ubuntu Trinity live CD |
| Space_Man | there is a 10.10 version, but no a 11.04 or 11.10 |
| Aquarius | hm.. |
| Space_Man | you can install 10.10 and then easily upgrade to 11.04 |
| Aquarius | has anyone succeeded in setting up PulseAudio in Debian? |
| Aquarius | i can tell you that in latest Ubuntu it's already set up quite accurately.. is there any way to do the same in Debian? |
| Space_Man | sorry, I have no idea how pulseaudio works |
| * Space_Man uses ubuntu | |
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| kleinie | Aquarius, why do you want to use pulse? |
| Aquarius | because only Alsa doesn't work. |
| MadEchidna | "Trinity Desktop Environment 3.5.13 is out! Get it at http://www.trinitydesktop.org" |
| MadEchidna | I'd love to, too bad the repos are STILL empty after a week! |
| MadEchidna | What's the deal with that? |
| MadEchidna | I saw the article on OS news and was like OMGINSTALL and I've been waiting since |
| Aquarius | i mean.. with multistream audio... with only ALSA i can't play many things at a time... i play flash and player and skype - something takes over and sound goes off... |
| Space_Man | download the source and compile it yourself :P |
| MadEchidna | nou >_> |
| MadEchidna | listing repos on the site after a public release that don't even work is a massive cock tease |
| Space_Man | have you read http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3292 ? |
| Aquarius | the thing is... my hardware seems to be a bit incompatible with the software given.. so that's why it requires delicate settings... |
| MadEchidna | no, I haven't. That would probably be a good thing to post on the front page eh? |
| Space_Man | agreed |
| MadEchidna | This project has gotten exposure from OSNews and frankly yall have your pants down |
| MadEchidna | not to be mean I'm just sayin |
| Aquarius | right now everything is almost fine except for one weird thing: i can't host the calls in skype. And yes, it's audio probs too. When i add one more person to a call it gets fuzzy. When someone else adds someone to a call - it's alright. |
| Space_Man | but Tim is busy with real life etc |
| MadEchidna | oh well I'll just check back next week then |
| MadEchidna | thanks for the link |
| Aquarius | also Wine shuts the sound... but i close my eyes on that. |
| Space_Man | maybe tomorrow! |
| MadEchidna | I'm leaving town tomorrow so I won't get to check until I get back |
| MadEchidna | anway thanks |
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| kleinie | Aquarius, what type of sound codec have you? |
| Aquarius | no idea |
| Aquarius | dunno even what you mean by that |
| kleinie | cat /proc/asound/cards |
| Aquarius | hm.. ok |
| Aquarius | 0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB |
| Aquarius | HDA ATI SB at 0xfe8f4000 irq 16 |
| Aquarius | 1 [HDMI ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI |
| Aquarius | HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfeae8000 irq 19 |
| kleinie | yepp hda-intel sucks, is it a laptop? |
| Aquarius | nope. |
| Aquarius | just desktop.. |
| Aquarius | strangely.. on Ubuntu there's no such thing.. i mean PulseAudio is optimized better there... |
| Aquarius | but i don't want this to make me go to Ubuntu... i wanna solve in Debian. |
| Aquarius | solve it* |
| Aquarius | cause i like it |
| kleinie | steal ubuntu pulseaudio config |
| kleinie | i don't use pulse, i don't know where are these files |
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| Piki | boo! |
| Aquarius | i thought of exactly the same thing... |
| Aquarius | you thing it's asound.conf? |
| Aquarius | think* |
| kleinie | asound.conf is for alsa |
| Aquarius | hm... |
| Aquarius | then it's .... src something, i don't remember. |
| kleinie | default.pa |
| Aquarius | hm.. okl |
| kleinie | but look the bright side, you can use the HDMI output, lucky man.... for me it's not working with my nvidia card :( |
| Aquarius | hm.. what would i use it for? |
| kleinie | sometimes i want watch movies on LCD tv with laptop, but the audio trough the HDMI is not working :( |
| Piki | hook up the computer to the TV |
| Piki | watch youtube and dvds :-) |
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| schreiberstein | Hi there! |
| Piki | hello |
| kleinie | hi |
| schreiberstein | How long will it take until the EL6 repos are online? |
| kleinie | i think just God knows :) |
| schreiberstein | :-( |
| schreiberstein | i'm really looking forward to install it |
| kleinie | we are too |
| kleinie | Aquarius, what is in your asound.conf? |
| Aquarius | let me show... |
| Aquarius | by the way... apparently i have an old version of PulseAudio... it's like 0.9 something |
| Aquarius | not even 1.0 |
| kleinie | i think in ubuntu alsa is configured to use pulsaudio as default, if an application want to play sound, alsa "redirects" to pulseaudio |
| Aquarius | true |
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| KingSphinx | There! That's the second time in a day I've had to install Ubuntu, but I finally got everything working. Seems Ubuntu ain't so friendly to removing desktops anymore... |
| Piki | "Do it our way or else!" |
| Aquarius | yeah, so you better get one at once... i mean if you want xfce then you should get Xubuntu instead of plain Ubuntu and setting up xfce afterwards. tried it already, failed.. |
| KingSphinx | But I did install Xubuntu. It kept giving me audio problems, so I tried installing the ubuntu-desktop package, then removing everything in xubuntu-desktop; and apparently, doing that now will cause your *buntu to fail to start. |
| KingSphinx | Hence why I just said "screw it" and installed regular Ubuntu via USB stick. |
| Aquarius | hm.. |
| Aquarius | regular Ubuntu has that Unity shit.... |
| Aquarius | in the latest version |
| kleinie | you can use the old gnome-panel + metacity desktop |
| Aquarius | hm... |
| Aquarius | didn't know. |
| Aquarius | anyways... i'm happy with TDE... it's just fine. But i gotta find a way to stabilize everything.. |
| kleinie | in oneiric login screen above your login name, you can choose different desktop sessions |
| Piki | use a distro that won't crash itself when you remove the desktop you don't want |
| Aquarius | ahh... really?.. didn't know you can choose gnome thing there.. |
| Aquarius | thanks for telling. |
| kleinie | you are welcome ;) |
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| Piki | Make room for the King of the Spynxes, KingSphinx! |
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| KingSphinx | Muahahahahaha! :P |
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| Piki | there's a new face :-) |
| Piki | welcome, samelian :-P |
| samelian | hello |
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| Harmonium | Hey, people. Is it posible to install trinity when KDE4 is also installed and expect both to work? |
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| KingSphinx | Harmonium: Yes, both should co-exist with few problems thanks to how Trinity installs (mostly into the /opt directory). I can't guarantee it'll be problem-free, but there shouldn't be anything major. |
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| KingSphinx | Personally, I've had more bugs with KDE 4 itself than with Trinity coexisting alongside it, so take that for what you will. :P |
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| Xu_R | SAMELIAN!!! :D long time no see :D |
| samelian | hi :) |
| samelian | Xu_R: you know, svn is unfreeze now? |
| samelian | I mean, I can commit new cmake files? |
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| Xu_R | samelian: hmm... I'm not sure :-\ |
| Xu_R | samelian: kb9vqf should be on in a bit, then you can probably commit ^_^ |
| Xu_R | samelian: how's everything going? |
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| samelian | busy :) |
| Xu_R | hope stuff gets less hectic then ^_^ |
| Xu_R | ok, gotta run for dinner. be back in a bit |
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| isai | tried install trinity desktop on ubuntu lucid. kubuntu-default-settings-trinity and kubuntu-desktop-trinity both don't exist. help? |
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| Space_Man | hi isai |
| Space_Man | there was a problem updating the mirrors |
| Space_Man | just give it some more time |
| isai | ok |
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| Space_Man | this email http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::1666 from David Hare is very interesting |
| Space_Man | and so is Tim's reply http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::1668 |
| Space_Man | David suggests using the nightly builds instead of the 3.5.13 repo's |
| Space_Man | change the deb line to "deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/debian/ etc" |
| KingSphinx | Would that work for Ubuntu or would I just substitute /debian/ with /ubuntu? |
| Space_Man | I assume swapping ubuntu and debian will work |
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| Space_Man | updated version of the 3.5.13 repo sources http://paste.debian.net/142790/ |
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| schreiberstein | argh... still no rpm packages online :-(( |
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| edogaa | hmm |
| schreiberstein | wb edogaa ! |
| edogaa | thanks |
| Space_Man | schreiberstein: looks like deb's for debian and ubuntu are the only distros created for the nightlies |
| schreiberstein | yep. |
| Space_Man | otherwise patience |
| Space_Man | maybe tomorrow! |
| schreiberstein | but i don't need nightlys.. i want the stable version |
| schreiberstein | i hope so :-) |
| Space_Man | the last nightlie is the same as 3.5.13 |
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| edogaa | :| |
| _Pete_ | as this seems to take, do you need compile help? I have "spare" i7 with 16G mem / raid ready to compile |
| schreiberstein | _Pete_: whom are you referring to? |
| _Pete_ | someone who's doing 3.5.13 release |
| schreiberstein | oh yeah.. of course.. stupid me. reallly need some sleep! :-D |
| schreiberstein | 2:15 am -.- |
| schreiberstein | good night... |
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| KingSphinx | If the final nightlies are bit-for-bit identical with the "final" 3.5.13, then why didn't we just use those packages for the regular repos instead of totally rebuilding binaries? Or are nightlies compiled from source or something? |
| edogaa | hmm, i wonder if it will be up tomorrow |
| edogaa | eh, i'll go to sleep and check tomorrow |
| jumpship | KingSphinx: I was just catching up on the mailing list, and Tim says the nightlies are bit-for-bit copy of 3.5.13, but reminds to change sources.list after upgrade. |
| KingSphinx | So use the nightly PPA to get it, then remove the PPA once Trinity's installed? |
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| KingSphinx | ...what's the address for the nightly PPA for Ubuntu? I can't find it in the log |
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| KingSphinx | Okay, found the nightlies. Trinity still asks to remove sudo though? |
| Xu_R | replacing with sudo-trinity is harmless. |
| KingSphinx | Mhm, I know, just noted it is all. Had to look up how to enable root in Ubuntu since I haven't needed to do this is quite a while. ^^; |
| KingSphinx | *in |
| Xu_R | :P |
| KingSphinx | Another possibly-obvious question, but upon logging in as root, I'm still in my home directory. Would I need to cd to / before apt-getting Trinity or is it okay to do it from my current directory? |
| Xu_R | did you do "su - root"? |
| Xu_R | or even "sudo su - root" works |
| Xu_R | you don't need to change directory |
| KingSphinx | Got it. Installing Trinity now :D |
| KingSphinx | Worst that could possibly happen is needing to reinstall Ubuntu... not too bad when you keep /home on another partition. :P |
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| KingSphinx | Okay, in Trinity... not all great news though, Kicker's crashing every time I open KMenu. |
| KingSphinx | More specifically, it seems to crash if I even so much as highlight "System." |
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| lostson | hello all I am trying to install trinity on my debian squeeze and I added the repo's to my sources list but when i try to apt-get install kde-trinity its says this package isn't available but referred to by another package |
| lostson | yet the help page on the site tells me to apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity |
| lostson | ideas ? |
| KingSphinx | Trinity's mirrors might still be building binaries for all of Trinity due to a few mishaps, so try waiting a bit, then trying again. Sorry if that's all the help I can give right now... |
| lostson | well so just kde-trinity isnt available right now if i install desktop-base-trinity will that get me most of it ? |
| lostson | or at least get me up and going ? |
| KingSphinx | It might, though I'm not sure. |
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| lostson | nope destkop=base-trinity pulls nothing with it |
| lostson | hmm perhaps i can drop to version 3.5.12 for now |
| lostson | nope cant do that either |
| KingSphinx | http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/index_desktop.html has 3.5.12 images, but they're based on Ubuntu 10.10 |
| lostson | yeah that is nice but no wanted to use trinity in my debian squeeze and when i read the realease notes yesterday was all excited to do it tonight but that doesnt look like it is gonna happen |
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| lostson | yeah most of the files are just missing cant get them |
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| lostson | well from what i read on the mailing list due to an outage they mirrors may not be fully populated yet |
| KingSphinx | Yep, the only reason I'm even in Trinity right now is thanks to the nighly repositories. I'm really hoping when the mirrors come back up that TDE gets some sort of update, the nightly version is so buggy! |
| lostson | maybe i can find a mirror with 3.5.12 |
| lostson | there has to be some mirrors somewhere right |
| KingSphinx | I wouldn't know, but maybe replacing "trinity-v3.5.13" with "trinity-v3.5.12" might help? Just a guess... |
| lostson | tried that |
| lostson | it failed |
| lostson | bingo i found one for 3.5.12 and installing now |
| lostson | so 3.5.12 is installing now |
| lostson | freaking sweet |
| lostson | ok time to reboot hopefully i will return |
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| lostson | and it works |
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| lostson | i forgot how fast kde was to use |
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| * Strangelv reads "<lostson> i forgot how fast kde was to use" and is further demotivated from considering any alternatives to KDE3/TDE | |
| * Strangelv drops deb http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu/ maverick main into his sources.list, but can't upgrade that way due to noninstallable packages | |
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| edogaa | Saturday, 9:46 AM, still can't install trinity hmm...:/ Man, patience is my worst virtue D: |
| schreiberstein | Yeah... i'm getting angry |
| schreiberstein | guess i need to play angry birds to calm down ^^ |
| * Piki doesn't understand what's so great about angry birds, he just couldn't get addicted | |
| schreiberstein | Why the heck do they publish a guide for installing it without mentioning that the f****ing servers are down?! |
| schreiberstein | angry bird is a great game.. i love it.. |
| Piki | who's they? trinity? if the servers are down, the site wouldn't work |
| schreiberstein | i meant the mirrors |
| Piki | i've played angry birds, i was laughing too hard to really care to play |
| Piki | which mirrors |
| Piki | ? |
| Piki | we can't control those, all we can do is tell tim to remove them from the pool |
| schreiberstein | http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity/rpm/f15/ - it's not down, but there are no files yet |
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| Piki | schreiberstein, hmm... tim gave an eta of everything being there by thursday or friday, i guess the best thing to do is to wait for tim to come on or email him and ask for an update |
| schreiberstein | i'll write it on mailing list.. |
| edogaa | :/ I've tried trinity on a virtual machine through Debian before, but I never used it on an actual system since i was never a fan of debian lol |
| edogaa | :| Now that it's finally available on fedora it is taking a hilariously long time XD |
| schreiberstein | yep. |
| schreiberstein | but why did they publish a guide which doesn't work? even some guys on german forum criticized it :-D |
| schreiberstein | i cleaned my harddrive and installed scientific linux on it... and i'm stuck because i have to wait for the trinity packages |
| edogaa | Stuck? o.O |
| edogaa | Why not just do the work you need with what you have available before KDE3 is back? |
| edogaa | or is this your way of trying out KDE3? o.O |
| schreiberstein | no... i'm working on os x most of the time. |
| edogaa | ah |
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| Piki | schreiberstein, the instructions were published because the mirrors were already expected to have the files by now, like i said we can't control the mirrors. the mirrors are hosted by other places, all we can do is provide them with the files they are supposed to host, but it's up to them how they handle actually making the files available |
| Piki | of course, tim's ISP cut out the other day when the files were supposed to be going to the mirrors, so that delayed uploading the files, but tim did say they should be there by friday, so it's possible that the downage may have had an unexpected side effect |
| edogaa | Tims connection failing didn't help |
| edogaa | yeah |
| schreiberstein | well, couldn't you temporaily host the files on the main server? |
| Piki | yeah, if you don't mind painfully slow connections |
| edogaa | lol..damn you bandwidth!!!! |
| Piki | tim's connection is much slower than a mirror, so having him host it and everybody trying to go through that isn't really practical |
| schreiberstein | :-( |
| schreiberstein | which friday do you mean? yesterday or next friday? |
| Piki | yesterday |
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| Piki | if it wasn't for tim's ISP cutting cables, it would've probably been thursday |
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| schreiberstein | a VDSL50 connection should be a human right! :-( |
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| * Strangelv would rather not admit how long it was before he was able to get something faster than dialup | |
| rzs19 | hello. oha, found something interessting: https://github.com/Perberos/Mate-Desktop-Environment#readme |
| rzs19 | we are not the only "nostalgic" users out there |
| edogaa | schreiberstein: which mailing list did you write this too D: |
| schreiberstein | rzs19: yep. mate is quite good. i tried out on arch linux. well... didn't worked out of the box, but after i figuered some things out, it was great |
| schreiberstein | edogaa: didn't wrote it to a mailinglist yet. but i would have written this to trinity-users@... |
| edogaa | okay lol |
| * Strangelv isn't a nostalgic user. He's a reactionary user. | |
| * edogaa wonders why Strangelv only seems to speak with actions | |
| Strangelv | sometimes it requires less mental energy |
| schreiberstein | lol |
| edogaa | >_> lol |
| * Piki isn't a nostalgic user either, he prefers to be an "everything just works user". kde3 just works :-) | |
| Strangelv | "There's a new paradigm that replaces what we were given at the Mother of All Demos. It's the 'verything is a telephone' paradigm |
| schreiberstein | see ya tomorrow guys! |
| * schreiberstein is going to a birthday party | |
| Strangelv | "Have fun |
| Strangelv | The fact that we're here implies that this change does not meet with our approval |
| * schreiberstein hopes, that the repos will be online tomorrow | |
| schreiberstein | Strangelv: thanks! |
| schreiberstein | bye! |
| Strangelv | Note for next time,-- haveit released before announcing it and changing all the directions... |
| schreiberstein | Strangelv: full ack! |
| Piki | ONE LAST TIME: the files were expected to have already been there, and probably would be if it weren't for tim's servers |
| schreiberstein | Piki: Then delete the guide from trinity'S site |
| Piki | schreiberstein, i can't |
| Strangelv | "That might be a better topic right now than saying that it's out. is Tim the only one with access to the topic? |
| Piki | i'm not a web master |
| Piki | just relaying info already given to me by tim, who expected the mirrors to have the files yesterday, and who is currently not here to see what the problem is |
| schreiberstein | nevermind... good bye! |
| Strangelv | "yeah, go |
| Strangelv | "TAYL |
| schreiberstein | have a nice day |
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| Piki | i may as well go too, since nobody seems to know how to "read" and i don't have any patience for those kinds of people |
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| * Strangelv wonders what it is hes' supposed t have read aside from being able to better cope with the hopeless deluge in his email inbox. The TDE lists aren't teh onyl ones' he's incapa'ble of keeping up with anymore | |
| Strangelv | "Hello |
| l0ner | hi guys! |
| edogaa | o_o |
| edogaa | poor Piki lol |
| rzs19 | has any one a nice name for my bar/docker? i'am so uninspired... |
| Strangelv | bar/docker? |
| * Strangelv used to name his MS Windows partitions after work project code names; does that count? | |
| rzs19 | aehm... a superkaramba widget. |
| rzs19 | soemthing like kxdocker, but for superkaramba. |
| l0ner | what it does? |
| * Strangelv hastily loks up superkaramba | |
| l0ner | superkaramba: nice but resource consuming applets for kde |
| l0ner | something like plasma now... |
| rzs19 | hmm it does...steals your creditcard and looks like a docker/bar |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | karadock? |
| Strangelv | So it's an applet you're needinga name for... |
| l0ner | kara from karamba and dock for.... uh... dock |
| Strangelv | Could you descireb it? appearance? uses |
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| * l0ner_away is away: dinnertime! | |
| * Strangelv will bb | |
| Strangelv | BTW, work project code names at my small company are taken from names of rocket,s missiles, and aerospace items |
| rzs19 | well its a nice looking bar, which can have themes and plugins, like weather, launcher, or something like the dock in macos. its a bar whic hcan have plugins, so you can put in what you want... |
| rzs19 | and it makes evilthings with your creditcard-data :) |
| rzs19 | and yeah its in python so maybe it needs a little bit more ram than toher things... but not soo much...and...you don't need to care about it. it has a autodetecd methof, to check if yo have to less ram. if its too less, it will steal money form other users and pay you new ram, more ram - so you dont need to care abot too less ram in your system |
| * Strangelv is now officially confused | |
| rzs19 | atm it needs 7 mb of ram... its just playing around with superkaramba and trying to makesomething use..fu..ful...less... |
| Strangelv | one of my biggest continuing nits with Kicker is that in terms of large icons like start, showing the dasktop, showing the trash can, there's only one dimension, and the thicker you make the bar the more room they eat up |
| Strangelv | "Wouldi t be possib0le to stuff them into a box with superkaramba so that they can be arranged in two dimensions and kept dow no a reasnable size iven if teh bar is >100px thick? |
| rzs19 | maybe we need to write an applete for kicker to do this? |
| Strangelv | "Iave always wished for alterantives to kicker altogether, although it's gotten better over the years |
| Strangelv | "I guess what I'm wendering is if a container culd be created that these things could be plaecd into. ...alternatively, add the ability to arrange them in moer than one dimension in Kicker itself |
| Strangelv | "There's also at least one alternative to kicker, but it's not a high priority and may not be in the current gorup of packages. I forlgoht who was working on it. It was created by SuSe |
| rzs19 | maybe we could make awish list for things todo? |
| rzs19 | maybe there is somewhere such a list, don't know... |
| rzs19 | buts sounds like a usefull idea :) |
| Strangelv | "I believ ethe SOP is to file a wish item with bugzilla, but I don't believ I've ever gottn around to it. Working on mascot/logo proposals is what I'm suppsed to be doing for TDE, but have been to busy with other things. ...then i decided to sign up for National Novel Writing Month because I wasn't overtaxing myself enough, obviously. I'm waaay behind on reaching the target of 50,000 words |
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| * l0ner is back. | |
| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 1 day, 12 hours, 13 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> :) if you see tim let him know |
| l0ner | !seen kb9vqf |
| tbottu | l0ner: kb9vqf was last seen in #trinity-desktop 3 days, 12 hours, 33 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <kb9vqf> gn |
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| * Strangelv hopes Tim is okay | |
| l0ner | why? |
| Strangelv | "This isn't the best 84 hours for him to be missing, and i'm sure he would know that moer than anyone |
| l0ner | do we know why he is missing? |
| l0ner | ie, not here? |
| Strangelv | "Missing from here, anyway |
| l0ner | i actually wanted to ask him something but I don't remember what tho... |
| Strangelv | MAybe I've just had too many things to woryr about lately that it's becoming something I jump to too radily |
| l0ner | ok' |
| l0ner | oh, I remembered what I waned to ask about |
| Strangelv | sorry abut my typing. I've been awake too long |
| l0ner | normal |
| l0ner | and I'm too sick to think straight |
| Strangelv | oof. That could be better (by def. admittedly) |
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| l0ner | right now I've been staring into my screen for something like 5 mins and I don't remember anymore what I was doing nor what I wanted to do... |
| Strangelv | brain fog? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | caused by a clod |
| l0ner | *cold |
| Strangelv | colds are fortunately temporary |
| l0ner | which I caught 2 days ago... and it don't want to go away |
| rzs19 | dementia? |
| l0ner | fortunately |
| l0ner | tzs19: I hope not... but who knows :P |
| rzs19 | maybe if you are married for 20 years, iit could be a benefit? everyday is like the first date... |
| samelian | Xu_R: here? |
| l0ner | rzs19: i would be nice I think, but actually it's impossible since I'm 21 right now |
| rzs19 | well... hmm.. thats bad? |
| l0ner | no, not at all |
| rzs19 | oha you are from bella italia? |
| l0ner | Yeah, that's where I live right now |
| rzs19 | so you know Carlo Pedersoli and have maybe used fox desktop :) |
| * Strangelv only now realised that he's days away from the 20th anniversary of his quitting caffeine cold turkey | |
| l0ner | nah, never heard of both |
| rzs19 | the first one is alos known as bud spencer and the second was a great italian kde distribution |
| * l0ner looking up fox desktop | |
| l0ner | didn't know |
| rzs19 | now you know it :) |
| l0ner | yep, and will look up more info later |
| l0ner | right now I'm struggling to compile trinity-qt3 on clean arch install |
| l0ner | argh! I give up... anyone here who could provide help? |
| * Strangelv is regrettably useless here | |
| l0ner | ok, that's strange... on cable power my laptop consumes 9W, on battery power it consumes 25W... why? |
| l0ner | ok, I'll wait till someone expert with qt3 will show up... |
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| Aquarius | hello everyone |
| Strangelv | Hello |
| rzs19 | hell :D |
| rzs19 | hello* |
| Aquarius | question: why can i not install latest Trinity desktop? |
| Aquarius | sources are broken or what? |
| Xu_R | samelian: yea, but heading out soon |
| * Strangelv should have a copy and paste answer but doesn't. HE's also been awake too long to explain it well | |
| samelian | Xu_R: i'm a bit outdated, how can I get patched qt3 source? |
| Strangelv | possibyl inaccurate short version: the announcement was premature |
| Xu_R | hehe, so am I. it should be on the mirrors |
| Aquarius | is that about KDE 3.5.13? |
| Xu_R | samelian: mirrors.its.uidaho.edu |
| samelian | thx |
| Aquarius | Jesus people.. i dunno who's talking to whom. Why don't you grant me such dignity and tell me what the hell is wrong? |
| Strangelv | Are you just trying to get up and running with TDE, or are you tyring to upgraed a 3.5.12 installation? |
| Aquarius | yep, i've reinstalled everything.... had to move to another hdd |
| Aquarius | so now i'm on gnome only. |
| Strangelv | Which distro, not that I can help with many |
| Aquarius | so no upgrade, just clean installation. |
| Aquarius | Debian 6 |
| Aquarius | it says it cannot read the sources... |
| Strangelv | If you can find the directions for 3.5.12, try those. Unfortunately, they're no longer up and I don't know wheer to find them |
| Aquarius | damn... you mean to tell me that i can' t install KDE 3.5.13 and instead i'd rather get 3.5.12 and yet they're hard to be found?! |
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| * l0ner_away is away: Gone away for now | |
| Aquarius | just why did i delete it.... |
| Aquarius | anyways.... shall i wait till you guys are done with 3.5.13/ |
| Aquarius | ? |
| Aquarius | i can use gnome for a while.. |
| Strangelv | "That might be the easier solution. Things are in flux and the situation could be fixed any hour now |
| Aquarius | fine. I'll be using gnome for a while. |
| Aquarius | thanks for letting know |
| Strangelv | Sorry for teh inconvenience |
| rzs19 | why dont use 3.5.12 ? |
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| rzs19 | and than upgrade to 3.5.13 ? |
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| Strangelv | rzs19: what repository and pacage name? |
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| Strangelv | package name(s) |
| rzs19 | or is the 3.5.12 repo alos broken? |
| Strangelv | I don't believ it's broken, but there ore no longer directions for using it |
| rzs19 | uno momento... |
| Strangelv | "so if you don't remember where to look or what packages to use... |
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| Aquarius | rzs19, besides, i've been looking forward to 3.5.13, they got (allegedly) that Konqueror/flash thing fixed |
| Aquarius | without it it's like tea without sugar |
| rzs19 | so you have installed 3.5.12 but your waiting for 3.5.13 ? |
| Aquarius | i did install 3.5.12, but i just re-installed everything due to some reasons and was hoping i'd just install latest thing at once... bummer. |
| Aquarius | so now i'm on gnome. |
| rzs19 | i don't like flash... |
| Aquarius | me neither, but you do like watching youtube videos, don't ya? |
| rzs19 | wait! |
| rzs19 | html5! |
| * Strangelv is still running Meerkat due to his failed attempt on another macrhien to upgrade and still have TDE | |
| rzs19 | http://www.youtube.com/html5 |
| Aquarius | Strangelv, hey... i remember you.. you're that guy who doesn't sleep much |
| * Strangelv seldomly uses Konquerer for HTML, and it's almost always to view local HTML files | |
| Strangelv | "Actually I sleep a lot, but my cercadian isn't 24 hour compliant. Right now is about bedtime |
| rzs19 | but i think the khtml in konqueror is atm to old |
| KingSphinx | I'm running 3.5.13 thanks to the idea of using the nightly repos to get it... it runs, but it's absolutely broken in some areas. |
| Strangelv | Yes. Webkit is the successor to KHTML |
| Aquarius | pha... |
| Aquarius | KingSphinx, what's the point then? :) |
| rzs19 | just use... iceweasel/firefox, or chrome, or soemthing else :D |
| Aquarius | i did. they act funny. |
| rzs19 | or port rekonq back to qt3 :P |
| Strangelv | That's a problem |
| KingSphinx | For example, if I hilight Settings or System in KMenu, the whole Kicker crashes. |
| * Strangelv is too asleep to troubleshoot | |
| Aquarius | hey.. how about those deep buttons thing? :) |
| KingSphinx | All I can say is that I really hope the "real" 3.5.13 is less crash-prone than this |
| rzs19 | KingSphinx: don't make me fear from 3.5.13 :/ |
| Strangelv | rzs19 might try writing an app for that. 8) |
| Aquarius | guys.. just take your time... do it long enough but good. |
| KingSphinx | rzs19: I'm sure the final product will be better, it's kinda my fault for installing nightlies. |
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| KingSphinx | Until final binaries are pushed out, I guess I'll just stick with *gasp* Unity... |
| * Strangelv has been staying with Meerkat, even though he went with Meerkat instead of the LTS so that he could keep up and not fall behind like he did with Jaunty... | |
| Aquarius | KingSphinx, nah.. anything by Unity |
| Aquarius | KingSphinx, xfce better |
| KingSphinx | I tried Xfce, and while it's certainly nice and light, its sound architecture leaves a lot to be desired. Sort of like Trinity in that regard, actually. :P |
| KingSphinx | Not to knock Trinity, of course, I'm just saying that it's a bit of a pain to configure it to use USB headphones. |
| Aquarius | listen.. sound prob is overall linux prob. It's never ok. |
| Aquarius | i've realized that already. |
| rzs19 | so, now i go shopping,cu later :D need to buy..food... |
| KingSphinx | Matter of fact, I have no idea how to get Trinity to fully work sound-wise through my USB headset. I can hear stuff, yes, but I'm unable to change the volume. |
| Aquarius | don't bother :) |
| Aquarius | Linux is for those people who are tired of comfort and want some headache. There you go ;) |
| Aquarius | i'm proud to be one of them. |
| Aquarius | if you want to get everything to work - just use Windows. Yeah, go and steal it, or buy it, whatever... but you'll have no probs dude. ;) |
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| KingSphinx | Don't get me wrong, it's fun fixing stuff, but this sound thing's got me baffled. >_>; |
| Aquarius | here.... in this THING...... everything gets me baffled :) |
| Aquarius | but for some reason i keep using it the way i can... some weird kind of obsession. |
| KingSphinx | It's literally the one thing I can safely say KDE4 beats Trinity in, because I can easily configure 4 to use my headset as the default sound device. Trinity, not so much, though I think the way Trinity and KDE4 use PulseAudio is way, way different... |
| Aquarius | PulseAudio is one piece of crap in making. |
| Aquarius | it works EVERYWHERE differently |
| Aquarius | sometimes less or more good... |
| l0ner | well nor trinity nor kde4 use pulse as it should be used |
| Aquarius | how do you know how it should be used? :) |
| l0ner | well... pulse is a audiomixer |
| Aquarius | has it ever worked they way intended ANYWHERE at all? :) |
| Aquarius | the* |
| l0ner | kde4 needs its own audiomixer |
| l0ner | trinity has it's own audiomixer |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | i warked for me on ubunut |
| l0ner | when i was still using ubuntu |
| l0ner | i just needed to remove alsamixer to prevent it form stealing access to alsa from pulse |
| l0ner | in pracitce it should be or pluse or alsamixer or any other sound mixer you want |
| Aquarius | well, Ubuntu is the only linux based OS for today that represents something. And even Ubuntu is pretty much experimental. |
| l0ner | yes... |
| Aquarius | i do really really regret that i deleted Trinity 3.5.12.. damn... |
| Aquarius | if only i knew... |
| Aquarius | this gnome crap is killing me... |
| l0ner | and it's sad, since at times of 7.10, 8.04 ubuntu was pretty stable |
| l0ner | right now with it's ambition to become osx-like it's crap |
| Aquarius | it was stable for the hardware of its own time. |
| Aquarius | but they don't stand still, they keep moving.. that's the prob... |
| l0ner | yes |
| Aquarius | so ubuntu makers always have to keep up-to-date |
| l0ner | it wouldnt be a problem if they didn't want to become something they can't be |
| l0ner | I installed ubuntu something like 4 months ago |
| Aquarius | and yet Debian is more humble... it has old kernel, though drivers are being updated but just about as much to get your system to work, to install it somehow and make it work. Also SOMEHOW. |
| KingSphinx | My first Ubuntu was 9.04, so I'm sort of used to it acting like crap sometimes. |
| edogaa | my first ubuntu was 11.10 |
| l0ner | i couldnt stand how user un-friendly it was... i couldn't do anything I wanted to do |
| Aquarius | i dunno, Debian is crap on one hand. but for some reason i do love it. |
| edogaa | >_> my first linux was pclinuxos, debian 5 and archlinux. |
| l0ner | my first ubuntu was 6.04 |
| edogaa | the first 2 through a livecd |
| l0ner | and my first linux was slack 10.1 |
| KingSphinx | My Debian 5.0.9 live CD doesn't work with my LCD monitor. |
| edogaa | hmm what year? |
| Aquarius | my first linux was Mandrake |
| Aquarius | and Linux XP... both tryouts |
| edogaa | I'll assume old, so l0ner OLD TIMER D: |
| l0ner | yep... somehow :P |
| edogaa | Lol, LInux XP... XD |
| Aquarius | yeah.. i didn't even install it actually.. i just tried ;) |
| l0ner | i remember having 6 cd's with apps sources and compiling them manually on slack |
| edogaa | God, Linux XP looks terrible, not because it looks like windows xp either |
| Aquarius | by the way, Mandriva still lives, but nobody's using it... at least i dunno any people that have it. |
| l0ner | the biggest problem with all linuxes is that they want to reassemble something that they are not. |
| edogaa | Mmmm |
| l0ner | like ubuntu gives me the feeling that it wants to become osx |
| Aquarius | the biggest problem is that they're all experimental... |
| l0ner | yes |
| edogaa | I thought the same with unity :/ |
| edogaa | There needs to be a point were they are 'stable' more or less lol |
| Aquarius | yeah. More or less. |
| l0ner | when i saw unity control panel i was like wtf? is this unity os is to osx |
| l0ner | i like how things work for debian |
| edogaa | Eh, I tried unity it has some good things |
| edogaa | but it's pretty shitty mostly :/ |
| edogaa | for me anyways, |
| l0ner | there is stable wersion and experimental one |
| l0ner | i just couldn't use unity... or ubuntu at all. on every step it tried to undo my customizations to system |
| Aquarius | Debian is crap, but pretty much stable as it is. |
| Aquarius | that's why i love it and using it right now) |
| Aquarius | it just lacks some things that you must take care of yourself. that makes it a big f...ng pain in the ass. |
| edogaa | I'm just using fedora because i don't like debian :/ |
| l0ner | i like the verbose boot, so i tried to uninstall tu usplash, and what ubuntu says to me: "no you can't uninstall it" |
| Aquarius | edogaa, some people have troubles dealing with Debian, but it's not that bad. You just don't have to ask too much from it :) |
| l0ner | I use arch because I like to configure my system to act how I want it to act |
| edogaa | i like having new software :| |
| l0ner | till now i was using gentoo... but lately gentoo becomes more and more strange |
| edogaa | :/ Eh, l0ner that and having bleeding edge software I liked but then I noticed the final result was what most linux distros do in the end anyways :/ |
| l0ner | i don't really need bleeding edge, I want from apps I use to be useful and stable |
| Aquarius | anyone heard anything from Knoppix lately? |
| l0ner | and allow me to be productive |
| edogaa | arch is more bleeding edge than fedora lol o.O |
| Aquarius | it's not arch.. it's arse |
| l0ner | didn't know |
| Aquarius | ArseLinux |
| edogaa | At least that's what I Noticed with KDE, and what I liked about arch in 3-4 days the newest release of kde is usually available. |
| l0ner | well... i didn't really care for kde or gnome |
| KingSphinx | l0ner: Debian Stable? |
| l0ner | so I didn't notice |
| edogaa | o_O Not sure about all the other software. Hell, Arch even defaults to Python3 over python2. lol |
| l0ner | KingSphinx: tried... but it just didn't fit me |
| edogaa | So it's more like latest 'stable' software. |
| l0ner | dunno why |
| Aquarius | i tried installing ArseLinux once |
| Aquarius | ended up with a headache. |
| Aquarius | and pain in the arse too |
| edogaa | eh, installation is easy. |
| edogaa | Except when you get a problem |
| edogaa | in which case you get an anneyriusm. |
| Aquarius | not really. Also, having CRT monitor it gives you hard times looking in monitor... |
| Aquarius | every damn linux usually adjusts it to to maximum orgasmic resolution possible |
| Aquarius | if monitor is unknown or no video drivers |
| Aquarius | and no, i couldn't change it while not being in any desktop environment |
| l0ner | vga= parameter to boot sequence? |
| Aquarius | dunno. |
| l0ner | damn... where is Tim when he's needed!? |
| rzs19 | where is amanda? |
| Aquarius | where's... TDE 3.5.13?... |
| l0ner | everyone is waithing for somenoe |
| l0ner | or something |
| Aquarius | :) |
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| l0ner_away | !help |
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| rzs19 | The food tastes poisoned... |
| rzs19 | what a crap, 15? -.- |
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| Aquarius | evening folks |
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| Firefishe | I'm running ubuntu oneiric 11.10. I've added all the trinity repositories, updated, but can |
| KingSphinx | Still waiting for the mirrors >_>; nightlies aren't such a great idea when you want a usable system... |
| Firefishe | I'm running ubuntu oneiric 11.10. I've added all the trinity repositories, updated, but can't find the kubuntu-default-settings-trinity or kubuntu-desktop-trinity packages (or meta, whatever they are). I have some trinity packages in synaptic, but not everything seems there. |
| Firefishe | KingSphinx: Are you saying that the mirrors aren't complete yet for oneiric? |
| KingSphinx | The Trinity mirrors have had difficulty building binaries because of several mishaps, they should be built within the next few days. |
| Aquarius | you still talking about that?? Good gracious :) |
| KingSphinx | At least I got sound coming through my USB headset :P now if I can get the volume on it to work, everything would be hunky-dory. |
| Firefishe | I'm just following the instructions on the page for oneiric. |
| Firefishe | I've added the repositories, updated, etc. |
| Firefishe | KingSphinx: So a few more days, eh? |
| KingSphinx | Firefishe: Unfortunately, yes. The last-minute addition of RHEL/Fedora repos isn't helping matters. |
| KingSphinx | Also, I can't be the only one for whom Kopete isn't working properly. |
| Firefishe | KingSphinx: I see |
| Firefishe | KingSphinx: Well, I'll just keep my eyes peeled and do my updates. I'm sure your crew will get it together. |
| Firefishe | I appreciate the efforts to bring kde 3 back to the masses :) |
| KingSphinx | Only reason I'm running Trinity is because the nighly repositories offer a version close to the final product. Wouldn't recommend it though if you want a stable system. And BTW, I'm not technically part of this project, though I do try to help where I can. |
| Firefishe | KingSphinx: We all help out where we can. I appreciate the information. I'll just wait a month, then the problems should be ironed out. |
| Firefishe | Are the nightly builds via svn or git? |
| Aquarius | my sound works now perfectly |
| Aquarius | with only Alsa |
| KingSphinx | Binaries, I think. http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/NightlyBuilds |
| Aquarius | and what i did.. i just reinstalled Debian.. maybe i went through settings differently this time, i dunno.. but it's just fine. |
| KingSphinx | I'm thinking of trying Debian, but it looks like it'd be a bit more of a pain to get wireless set up, especially since I don't have an ethernet connection here. |
| Aquarius | Debian is good when you're good to it :) |
| Aquarius | but it's not intended to satisfy the needs of a generic consumer |
| KingSphinx | If I had a working ethernet connection where I am, I'd install Debian in a heartbeat. |
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| edogaa | Guys, I hve the bestest best idea that will make KDE3 even more maintainable and stable than evar D: |
| edogaa | lets move everything...to whitespaces! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_%28programming_language%29 |
| edogaa | :D |
| rzs19 | damn great idea! looks so readable :D |
| edogaa | XD Yes. |
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| rzs19 | my superkaramba dock begins slowly to be usable... |
| drakuwa | does anyone know when are the RPM packets going to be available? |
| edogaa | in the year 2500 |
| edogaa | but in all seriousness, I don't know and it doesn't look like many people here do either. :/ There was an issue on the 2nd were Tims connection got screwed up so not many of the mirrors got everything they needed. |
| rzs19 | i would be happy if the deb packages would be aviable :) |
| edogaa | It was expected to be up at least AT SOONEST around friday...but it looks like it's going to take longer :/ |
| edogaa | also, thanks to slashdot the main website went down around the same day temporarily XD |
| rzs19 | maybe kde4-ninjas have killed the maintainer? :/ |
| rzs19 | conspiracy theory... |
| edogaa | OMGOMGOMGOMG, maybe Aaron Seigo was acting so nice to put everyones guard down D: |
| edogaa | He is truly a magnificent bastard! |
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| rzs19 | i was suprised where martin gräßlin got all those time for the posts about trinity. |
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| rzs19 | i think he has a time machine... and wrote that all i nthe future, to come back and post it in the past! |
| rzs19 | we needa DeLorean too! |
| Space_Man | Trinity needs a release team |
| rzs19 | no, we need a DeLorean! |
| rzs19 | we could bring aut kde 3.6 before 3.5.9, that would be funny :D |
| rzs19 | ähm tde* |
| Space_Man | maybe fork trinity! |
| edogaa | so fork a fork :| hurrah |
| rzs19 | maybe we should fork the word fork to make a double fork and we would be demons.. that would be evil... |
| rzs19 | why we should fork trinity? The work has just began.. they need some time to get a working team. |
| rzs19 | everything needs some time to start up. |
| rzs19 | maybe there are soem rocks on the way, or holy mountains. but i'am sure, they go tnt :) |
| gryc | Trinity's code is mostly C++, right? |
| Space_Man | probably |
| gryc | Okay, that's what I thought |
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| coreyfro | Hey all, followed instructions from http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php but kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity aren't found. Can't find them when I snoop around either. Is this build available? |
| coreyfro | I have kubuntu 11.10 amd64, fresh |
| rzs19 | it seems that the mirrors are not ready atm? just wait... |
| coreyfro | Is there a particular mirror that I could specify? I jumped to 11.10 the second I read trinity was out for it and thus, squished my perfectly functional 3.5.12 install |
| edogaa | lol |
| coreyfro | 4.7 is killing me...it just...ugh...fails... |
| edogaa | You can try and play around in 4.7 and see the good things about it, then burn it with fire and jump to kde3 |
| Aquarius | coreyfro, same happened here. |
| Aquarius | but i didn't kill my desktop.. just wanted to re-install.. |
| Aquarius | thought i'd install latest thing at once... bummer |
| edogaa | LOL, I did the same when I saw it was available in fedora xD |
| coreyfro | I have! I even skinned it almost like how I skin KDE 3.5... http://www.flickr.com/photos/82885810@N00/6316293289/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/82885810@N00/6316123769/ but the beauty isn't even skin deep. I can't lipstick this pig! |
| coreyfro | Trinity, much love. You do the OSS community much by saying, "You know, fork this!" |
| Space_Man | sadly the mirrors are lagging |
| Space_Man | if you really need 3.5.13 you could try the recent nighly upload |
| Space_Man | it is the same as 3.5.13 |
| coreyfro | Are they binaries or sources? |
| Space_Man | binaries |
| edogaa | O_O |
| edogaa | WHERE CAN I GET THESE D: |
| Space_Man | I tried using them earlier but something went wrong |
| edogaa | are they rpm format D: |
| Space_Man | no *.deb |
| edogaa | only :| |
| coreyfro | Alright! What could POSSIBLY go wrong |
| edogaa | Everything goes unstable |
| Space_Man | sadly deb's for debian squeeze and several ubuntu's |
| edogaa | sigh |
| edogaa | I'm going offline |
| Space_Man | download the source and compile |
| edogaa | I need to stop being on here since it's ust distracting me from work xD |
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| coreyfro | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/NightlyBuilds |
| gryc | I installed from nightly an hour or so, have yet to try to log into it though |
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| coreyfro | I just killed EVERY bandwidth sucking service on my network to make sure that I squeeze every bit I can through my connection so I can get this nano seconds faster |
| coreyfro | IRC isn't bandwidth sucking... it's time sucking |
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| coreyfro | Once I get this working, I'll bust out my beagleboard and try the armel version |
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| Z_God | hey Aquarius |
| Aquarius | hey Z_God... too late man, i'm off to bed.. |
| Z_God | I turned on this button thing for kicker for a few days now |
| Z_God | but I'm not sure yet if I like it ;) |
| Aquarius | ah... |
| Aquarius | really?.. could you make a screenshot of that? |
| Z_God | I did & put it here at some point |
| KingSphinx | Kicker crashes if I highlight Setting or System in KMenu for some odd reason. |
| Z_God | like me fetch the url |
| Aquarius | ok! |
| Z_God | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TnLKfc3YvRc/Tq_qh63_bAI/AAAAAAAAAfQ/q2I6E4UHIiQ/s912/drawbuttons.png |
| Z_God | maybe it looks better with other themes though |
| Aquarius | erm... |
| Aquarius | what exactly did you do there? |
| Aquarius | you made the buttons visible? :) |
| Z_God | I turned on the option we talked about |
| Aquarius | well... actually i could do that too, and i've been using it only this way. |
| Aquarius | BUT... |
| Aquarius | the point was not the button shape as such.... but the pushing thing... it's not really pushed, it's just darkened a bit... |
| KingSphinx | http://pastebin.com/fB2Gtd9L Would this be of any help? I got this by invoking Kicker through Konsole, then reproducing the crash. |
| Aquarius | and not enough darkened even. |
| Aquarius | and hey.. i'm out of KDE now... |
| Aquarius | reinstalled everything.. |
| Aquarius | it's better now, sound is alright... |
| Z_God | Aquarius: yes, I get what you mean |
| Aquarius | but.. i can't get trinity due to reasons above mentioned. |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: there's not much info, but better add it to the bug |
| Z_God | if there's no bug yet, you should create one |
| Aquarius | anyways man... i talk to you tomorrow.. tired now... see y |
| Aquarius | night |
| Z_God | Aquarius: night! |
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| rzs19 | gn8 :) |
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| hakova | anybody available for a quick question on fedora 15 installation? |
| KingSphinx | If it's involving missing packages, the mirrors aren't quite fully available yet due to a few mishaps (fiber cable being cut, temporary outage due to Slashdot, last-minute addition of RHEL/Fedora repositories). |
| hakova | When I issue the command "yum install trinity-desktop" as root I get an error message indicating /etc/yum.repos.d/index.html?url=f15.repo file did not contain any section headers? |
| KingSphinx | Yep, repo issues. I'm still waiting for the official binaries for Ubuntu to be built. (Former Fedora user here, ironically enough, hopped to Ubuntu *because* of Trinity... now that it's on Fedora, I feel kinda silly) |
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| Strangelv | "Would it make you feel better that I was unable to cross the RPM/DEB divide after Libranet tragicalyl ended? I had a rather long in the tooth kernel by the time I found Kubuntu 5.04... |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| KingSphinx | Make that the third time in two days I've reinstalled Ubuntu :/ nightlies aren't such a great idea when everything keeps crashing... |
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| KingSphinx | Hopefully the final release of 3.5.13 is more stable than the final nightly, because Kicker crashed every time I wanted to go to Settings or System in KMenu. |
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| KingSphinx | http://pastebin.com/fB2Gtd9L Here's what I got after starting Kicker from terminal, then recreating the crash. |
| MutantTurkey | they are bit for bit identical. |
| MutantTurkey | afaik |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: file a report? |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: Xu_R: Z_God: Strangelv: anyone else: We are having a meeting Nov 15th in the evening. can you guys make it |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| Xu_R | I can |
| Xu_R | hm. |
| Xu_R | Do you think samelian can make it? |
| Xu_R | he was on yesterday... |
| MutantTurkey | I havent seen him in a LONG time |
| MutantTurkey | please ask him and spread the word! |
| MutantTurkey | I would like to have good turnouts |
| MutantTurkey | also Xu_R can you maybe (i know your busy) come up with some meeting topic outline? |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/15 |
| MutantTurkey | thats what I have so far. |
| Xu_R | sure |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully you can run the meeting ( i dont know about the whole bot thingers) |
| MutantTurkey | I want all packagers to be there. |
| Xu_R | kk |
| MutantTurkey | me you tim and samelian are also mandatory :P |
| Xu_R | :P |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | I want a real turnout for this meeting |
| MutantTurkey | tomorrow I will make a new announcment about it. |
| MutantTurkey | then again after that |
| MutantTurkey | and then the day of :P |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: what did you usually do to coordinate timing? |
| MutantTurkey | earlier the better? |
| Xu_R | earlier, better |
| Xu_R | and then day before |
| MutantTurkey | dont want our russian counterparts missing out. |
| Xu_R | xD |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | getting ready to upload arch release packates |
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| Strangelv | "What nime on the 15th? |
| Strangelv | Or time? |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: what timezone are you? |
| MutantTurkey | I have yet to pick a time. |
| Strangelv | "Central Daylight Time |
| MutantTurkey | most likely afternoon (between lunch and dinner) EST |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: you were quite interested in artwork a few months back yes? |
| Strangelv | "Sounds good. I've been distracted and am not sure where to upload the wallpapers I made |
| MutantTurkey | we are definitely looking for some new stuff for kdeartwork |
| MutantTurkey | if you want to lead the charge on that, you are welcome to. |
| Strangelv | "Specifications arle always welcome |
| Strangelv | "I'm even more sidetracked than normal, though |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | well at the meeting (if you can come) I will mention artwork |
| MutantTurkey | and you can say something to everyone if you wish |
| * Strangelv wonders if he can find his notes for two mascot concepts he came up witha few months ago and has yet to make in Inkscape. He might settle for scanning them if he can find his sketches | |
| KingSphinx | Mascots for TDE? |
| Strangelv | nod |
| Strangelv | Branding |
| Strangelv | Right now we have a KDE-derived logo. I've been wanting to develop a successor |
| MutantTurkey | the one I enjoyed. |
| MutantTurkey | the idea at least |
| MutantTurkey | Inkscape is cool, hard for me to use :/ |
| Strangelv | The robot was rather heavily panned. Most people either loved or hated it. Too many in the latter column. I've got a new concept that might be flexible in every way that worked with the robot, though |
| MutantTurkey | okay cool! |
| Strangelv | "I had an on-ramp to learning inkscape |
| Strangelv | "First I learned the bezier curve in GIMP |
| MutantTurkey | well please present it at the meeting |
| MutantTurkey | I need to crash - got a Gig at 9am ( church praise band :P) |
| MutantTurkey | but hopefully we can get the ball rolling on this mascot idea and artwork |
| MutantTurkey | night all. |
| Strangelv | "Then I found Xara for Linux and quickly learned and used it to make a few things -- only to discover that I had de facto vendor lock-in with a proprietary format and exports to standard formats that are all broken |
| Strangelv | "later |
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| gryc | Now that I'm on trinity proper, I realize exactly how bad gnome has become |
| KingSphinx | Wait, how? 3.5.12 or 3.5.13? |
| gryc | Whatever's nightly, probably 3.5.12 |
| KingSphinx | That's 3.5.13, I'm still waiting for the official binaries to come out because Nightly's too unstable for me. |
| gryc | me too, but I upgraded to the latest ubuntu yesterday and they made gnome unusable, so I'm willing to put up with some unstability :p |
| KingSphinx | Does Kicker crash a lot for you? Mine did whenever I highlighted Settings or System in KMenu. |
| gryc | haha yep |
| KingSphinx | Same bug for you? |
| gryc | totally |
| gryc | I'm betting a corrupt .desktop file somewhere maybe |
| KingSphinx | Right down to highlighting those items in KMenu? Wow... |
| gryc | yeah, one kills it but it restarts automatically, the other kills it completely |
| gryc | looks like a corrupt image for System |
| gryc | (or a bug in art_render_gradient.c) |
| KingSphinx | You invoking it from Konsole? |
| gryc | yep |
| gryc | KDE was always good about being pretty helpful when it crashed |
| KingSphinx | Haha, you're doing the same thing I did to get some semblance of a bugtrace. |
| gryc | hm |
| gryc | there might be something wrong with the svg its trying to render...if this wasn't before they moved to svgs |
| gryc | like the gradients are malformed |
| gryc | hence it complaining about an assertion failling, like a stop is too small or too big |
| KingSphinx | For some reason I wouldn't think Debian would be affected by this, because if I recall, KMenu in Debian didn't have icons for some reason. |
| KingSphinx | (I also liked the layout in Debian's KMenu more, but that's another story) |
| gryc | well I would imagine that's just a setting |
| Strangelv | "Gnome 3 seems to be as popular with at least some Glome 2 users as KDE 4 is here |
| Strangelv | "The Mother of All Demos' paradigm is being replaced by an 'everything is a telephone' paradigm. Consider me a reactionary. |
| Strangelv | "I want an alternative |
| KingSphinx | I'm kind of put off by how every DE nowadays seems to be heading in a touchscreen/tablet interface. |
| gryc | yeah. |
| Strangelv | :: hoists a flag with 1967 replacing a key portion of the flag. or was the mouse/cursor system unveiling in 1968? |
| Strangelv | "Certianly took long enough to get to market in a usable product |
| gryc | KingSphinx: that crash is a known bug: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 554: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
| gryc | With a little luck it'll be in 3.5.14 |
| KingSphinx | What, the fix? |
| gryc | Yes |
| gryc | There's a patch attached to that bug, so chances are good it'll get fixed :P |
| * Strangelv thinks, 3.5.13.1? | |
| Strangelv | "Then again, the two toughes problems have both been cracked |
| Strangelv | The next releas/le might not be as long in coming as 3.5.13 at all |
| KingSphinx | Toughest problems? |
| Strangelv | "Getting rid of Automake and implemetnig the Qt wraypper |
| KingSphinx | Ah |
| Strangelv | "Automake si the #1 reason there weren't any packafes for Natty |
| Strangelv | ...basically teh only reason |
| Strangelv | Automake's developers like to break everything during incrimental releases it seems |
| KingSphinx | Hence why TDE was ported to CMake? |
| * Strangelv nods | |
| gryc | KingSphinx: luckily, that bug is in a little library, so theoretically you could just install the package for that from nightly when it gets merged in and stuff will quit crashing |
| Strangelv | "Soundhs like something to be quietly fixed in hteh bockground |
| gryc | Yep |
| gryc | if I were the overlord, I would say it was a bugfix and that it can go into the release :p |
| Strangelv | That might still be doable. The problem is something has distracted the overlord |
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| theali | morning |
| theali | am I missing something or there is no package "kde-trinity" in trinitis debian (squeeze) repo? |
| theali | or maybe installation instructions for squeeze is different than for lenny? (apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity) |
| theali | I found kde-trinity in lenny. Bug or feature? ;] |
| Space_Man | hi theali |
| Space_Man | there is a delay updating the mirrors |
| Space_Man | one day all the packages will be available |
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| theali | yhym, strange ;p |
| Space_Man | an explaining why the update has been delayed http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3292 |
| theali | ok, thanks |
| Space_Man | if you really want to use 3.5.13 today you could use the nighlie builds - they are the same as 3.5.13 |
| Space_Man | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/debian squeeze main |
| theali | will try ;] |
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| rzs19 | hello :) |
| Strangelv | "Hello |
| rzs19 | everything fine? |
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| Aquarius | heya |
| rzs19 | good morning :) |
| Aquarius | hello |
| Aquarius | well here it's like afternoon |
| rzs19 | ola |
| Aquarius | but for me morning alright.. |
| rzs19 | here too: 13:54 ;-) |
| rzs19 | but its relativ... |
| Aquarius | yeah. |
| Aquarius | where are you from? |
| rzs19 | austria, but atm in germany and you? |
| Aquarius | Moldova |
| rzs19 | and noo, i have no big plans like world domination |
| Aquarius | :) |
| rzs19 | *google for moldova* |
| Aquarius | yeah... do it |
| Aquarius | brb |
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| sheldonl | hello? |
| rzs19 | hello |
| schreiberstein | sheldonl: hi |
| sheldonl | I have a qyuestion about installing trinity-desktop on ubuntu natt |
| sheldonl | err natty. |
| schreiberstein | yep? |
| sheldonl | I followed the instructions on the installation page, added the repositories, key, etc. |
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| rzs19 | Hello Z_God |
| Z_God | rzs19: hi |
| sheldonl | but when I do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| sheldonl | the packages are not found |
| sheldonl | Reading state information... Done |
| sheldonl | E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-default-settings-trinity |
| sheldonl | E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| rzs19 | atm it seems that there are some problems with the mirrors - syncing problems. |
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| sheldonl | even now? The release has been out for a while.... |
| rzs19 | or not completly synced, whatever. |
| rzs19 | seems so... just wait, or use 3.5.12 |
| rzs19 | maybe on mailinglist stands something new? |
| sheldonl | the ppa lives on pearsoncomputing.net is that what is having problems syncing? |
| rzs19 | ti makes load balancing to antoher mirror. |
| sheldonl | ah\ |
| sheldonl | ok |
| rzs19 | maybe there is some finished mirror, but i don't know. |
| schreiberstein | :-( still no rhel packages :-( |
| sheldonl | I guess I can ask on the mailing list. Maybe someone knows. |
| sheldonl | I'd REALLY like to get back to KDE 3.5 :) |
| sheldonl | best linux desktop ever made! |
| rzs19 | I#am back with 3.5.12 and it works. but still waiting for 3.5.13 |
| sheldonl | and klineakconfig will work on it just fine. I don't have to port to kde 4. ;) |
| rzs19 | klineakconfig = ? |
| rzs19 | we need a pulseaduio qt3/kde frontend. |
| sheldonl | KDE front end to my program lineakd. Lets you configure multimedia keyboards. |
| rzs19 | pulseaudio - damn i always write it wrong... |
| rzs19 | oh, nice :) |
| sheldonl | there are plugins for konqy, kmail, kmixer, and a couple other things I forget now. |
| sheldonl | all uses dcop. I don't want to port to dbus :( |
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| rzs19 | if we got soemthing working, than we need to create something new, so that we got not bored... like devfs, hal, udev, wahtevercomesafterallthat :P |
| sheldonl | I think dcop is much better, easy to use and understand. |
| sheldonl | and debug. |
| sheldonl | you can check it out at lineak.sourceforge.net |
| sheldonl | but project is inactive for a long time now. |
| sheldonl | mainly b/c I don't want to port to kde4. |
| Fat-Zer | talking about dbus vs dcop? |
| rzs19 | nice :) |
| sheldonl | and gnome/kde used all the keycodes I collected for most of the keyboards and they built it in, so my program is not as much a requirements. Also X now used kernel event infrastructure so on usb you don't need as much. |
| sheldonl | thx |
| sheldonl | yes. my opinion is dcop rules ;) |
| Z_God | sheldonl: you don't mind debugging dcop?? |
| sheldonl | and dbus drools ;_ |
| rzs19 | atm i'am plaing arroudn with superkaramba to write a nice dock, after that i will play around with kio, maybe i can integrate bluez. |
| Z_God | it wasn't my favourite part in reviving the xparts & kmozilla stuff |
| sheldonl | not really. the command line tools make it pretty straight forward to discover the calls and parameters. |
| sheldonl | I never did figure out dbus. |
| sheldonl | lol |
| sheldonl | superkaramba was awesome back in the day |
| sheldonl | what do ou guys think about using GIO instead of kio-slaves? |
| sheldonl | the one thing that I think gnome does better is their vfs. especially when trying to stream movies over a cifs share on a lan. |
| Fat-Zer | or it can at least edit files via net.. |
| sheldonl | true |
| sheldonl | that is pretty sweet, but it does it by copying files locally and then resyncing no? |
| Fat-Zer | no |
| Fat-Zer | it mounts fs via fuse |
| sheldonl | are you talking about kio or gvfs? |
| Fat-Zer | gvfs |
| Fat-Zer | AFAIK to .gvfs directory |
| sheldonl | right. yes, gvfs does that and kio copies locally. |
| Z_God | sheldonl: ok, I had to debug the actually dcop communication itself because the dcop c client was broken .. |
| sheldonl | I think we should have a kio like interface onto a gvfs/gio backend. |
| Z_God | why not onto KDE4? |
| Fat-Zer | O_O |
| Z_God | or use whatever lib KDE4 uses? |
| sheldonl | z_god: ah, ok. But I seem to recall the dcop stuff was also pretty straight forward, lots of marshalling code, etc but not too hairy...? |
| Z_God | sheldonl: yep, there was a bug in the marshalling |
| rzs19 | damn, whats wrong with twinview and superkaramba, hmm ... |
| Fat-Zer | the idea is as crazy as rename all apps with "s/k/t/" |
| Z_God | I hope there are no bugs like that anymore now *knock* *knock* |
| sheldonl | I think KDE4 still has kio slaves not too much different from KDE3... but I haven't looked at the code. |
| sheldonl | lol. yes |
| sheldonl | someone actually ported gvfs to kde, but kde dev's ignored him. |
| rzs19 | man that renaming is...a little bit... strange, kwin-trinity != kwin-kde4 ... |
| sheldonl | z_god: fixing the marshalling would be PITA. No wonder you didn't like it ;) |
| Fat-Zer | IMHO to get functionality of gnom we have to drop kio and use gvfs or nearly completely rewrite it... |
| sheldonl | I imagine that dbus is basically the same though, you'd have to marshall at some point wouldn't you? |
| Z_God | I guess yes |
| sheldonl | well it would be good if you could do gvfs in the background and interface to it like you do with KIO; but I don't have any idea of how that would work. |
| rzs19 | why use bottombar, both of my montiros? strange *reading the docu* |
| sheldonl | maybe you could even wrap the api... |
| Z_God | the bug was in the marshalling of integers, the problem with this code was also that it wasn't used much |
| sheldonl | gotcha |
| sheldonl | anyways... I think that is the one largest failing of KDE infrastructure right now. |
| sheldonl | but after gnome3 and unity I think KDE is our only hope... |
| rzs19 | there is aloso MATE |
| rzs19 | also* |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 580 filed by rafe@taevaste.zapto.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=580 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Use xz for packages |
| sheldonl | MATE? |
| rzs19 | MATE == gnome 2 fork |
| Fat-Zer | gnome2 fork |
| sheldonl | LOL. Already? Awesome. Gnome2 isn't that bad, they should have evolved it instead of rewriting the whole shell. |
| Fat-Zer | xfce also is quite good... |
| Fat-Zer | but i'm not a gtk fan at all... |
| sheldonl | haven't used xfce for a number of years, but it's not really a full desktop is it? |
| sheldonl | I'm not a gtk fan either. |
| rzs19 | but i don't know if he will make improvments, or just fixing problems. |
| sheldonl | i don't know why he doesn't just write a gnome2 shell on top of gnome3 infrastructure.... |
| rzs19 | i don't like the gtk/gnome dialogs, like printing, or file. but thats taste |
| sheldonl | if canonical can write a shell certainly someone else can too. |
| Fat-Zer | it's looks full but uses some parts of gnome like nm-applet and gvfs... |
| sheldonl | I'll have another look, but what I really want is a shiny new KDE 3.5.13 ;) |
| Fat-Zer | why we are not writing a kicker+kdesktop infrastracture on top of kde4? |
| sheldonl | good question ;) |
| sheldonl | get rid of plasma..... |
| rzs19 | kicker an kdestops was ported to qt4 in some alpha version of kde4 |
| Fat-Zer | mm... |
| rzs19 | but there is so much more like nepomuk and strigi. |
| sheldonl | I think the 'make your whole desktop = superkaramba' was not too smart. |
| rzs19 | superkaramba is nice for some parts, but not for a whole desktop |
| sheldonl | anyone remember the card based KDE desktop proposal some guy did? I thought that was great. |
| Fat-Zer | AFAIK kde is reengeniaring it infrostructure now isn't it? |
| sheldonl | yes, for kde5 |
| rzs19 | i would like to see more use of kparts in konqueror |
| sheldonl | i hear you. |
| rzs19 | and i dont like dolphin. konqueror can much more. |
| rzs19 | dolphin could just do one split, but i need much more splits |
| rzs19 | i miss splitting in konsole :) |
| Fat-Zer | =)) |
| Fat-Zer | if I'll have time i want to finish the keramic theame for kde4... |
| Fat-Zer | i realy miss it |
| Fat-Zer | and also there is no damn panel-hide-button in plasma |
| Fat-Zer | i miss it too... |
| Strangelv | "Splitting in Konqueror or Konsole? |
| rzs19 | Splitting in konquerorworks perfectly, but not in konsole, yakuake can it |
| Strangelv | "How do I invoke it, not that I'm suer I want to do it. I'm a very heavy tab user |
| rzs19 | am right klick i nthe field right of the green point, there stands soemthing like 8 Items - 5 Files (..) - 3 Folders. make a right klick and say split vertical, or split horizontal, us can split and split and salit |
| rzs19 | is alos use tabs, but splitting is nessacary for me |
| rzs19 | i often have some instance of kpdf as kpart |
| rzs19 | ist very usefull |
| rzs19 | and without it, i'am lost :) |
| * Strangelv uses Plastik decorations with Keramik style | |
| Strangelv | I must admit that most of the time I only use Konqueror as a file manager -- and always in tree mode -- I can't remember if I filed a bug report for not being able to make tree mode the default with 3.5.12 |
| Strangelv | The unchangeable default of icon is almost completely useless to me |
| Fat-Zer | is there some sence in backporting okular? |
| Strangelv | "I've partially worked around this with my default startup session having Konquer started up already and set to tree mode |
| rzs19 | okular was damn slow... |
| rzs19 | eats up all my ram... |
| Strangelv | "There could be. I'm not familiar with Okular, at least not by name |
| * Strangelv wasn't using KDE 4.1 for very long before he was close to destroying his machine in rage | |
| Strangelv | The rage largely being caused by the militant pro-KDE4 partisans and what I was seeing with the Kubuntu developers |
| Fat-Zer | okular is the most powerful ebook viewer |
| Fat-Zer | *on linux |
| Strangelv | I didn't have anyone militantly trying to cram Windows Me down my throat, which migcht be why it took longer for that to have me close to hurling my machine across the room in rage |
| Strangelv | So basicalyl you're wondering about a TQt/Qt3 variant? |
| Fat-Zer | yeap... |
| Fat-Zer | wait a second... |
| Strangelv | If Qt3 becomes more popular as a result of Tim's efforts, it might be useful to look into the barkport ability. If you're runinng a desktop or workstation, though, how much of a penalty is it to have Qt3 and Qt4 both running? |
| Fat-Zer | it's a qt-only app it, doesn't require kdelibs... |
| Fat-Zer | i think not really a lot... |
| Fat-Zer | anyway it's not a first-need-to-port |
| rzs19 | lol Strangelv :D |
| Strangelv | I depend very heavily on my desktop environment |
| Strangelv | When it sabotages me I can't get anything done |
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| Strangelv | Being confined to bed most of the time, what I do on a computer is most of my life |
| Strangelv | KDE 3 / TDE's customizability is very valuble and important to me |
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| Strangelv | KDE 4 was not very customizable at all when I tried it. I couldn't do too many things I needed it to do. No, I don't remember specifics. I'm probably better off not remembering very much |
| * Strangelv mostly remembers feeling trapped and suffocated | |
| rzs19 | why confined to bed? |
| schreiberstein | a few months ago I asked this at a gnome-channel : "Why did the gnome-team quit developing gnome2?" - "because kde3 felt lonely" |
| Strangelv | rzs19: ME/CFS |
| Strangelv | When I'm up I'm generally in either my power chair or my scooter. As inconvzenient as that sounds, the brain fog is much, much worse |
| Strangelv | schreiberstein: 8\ |
| rzs19 | Strangelv: thats bad :( |
| Strangelv | see definition ME/CFS |
| Strangelv | Well, that's not enough to tell you. Ther's some pretty stupid definitions out there |
| Strangelv | Worse than the disease is how the CDC, King's College, et c. respond to it, and promoting treatments every bit as idiotic and suicidal as 'graduated sugarl therapy' would be for type I diabetics |
| Strangelv | The best definitions are the Canadiat Consensus and the International Consensus. Neither makes a guess as to cause. It's probably a retrovirus, a FUBAR immune system, or both |
| Strangelv | ...and completely off topic for this channel |
| Strangelv | One patient's blog refers to it as teh Kafka pandemic |
| Strangelv | sorry for the off-topic rant |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: hey! |
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| schreiberstein | yahoo! |
| schreiberstein | http://trinity.mangafrance.com/ |
| schreiberstein | redhat repo! |
| schreiberstein | you'll just have to edit the *.repo file to pint to this mirror |
| MutantTurkey | is it all synced? |
| MutantTurkey | I think the mirrors should all be synced by the end of today |
| schreiberstein | this mirror just contains the redhat enterprise packages |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: I saw the note about the meeting, but I don't know what "in the evening" means |
| Z_God | regarding timezones, etc. |
| Z_God | I think I have an exam on the 16th, so I can't really attend if it's outside of the CET day |
| Space_Man | looks like the 3.5.13 mirror is now working |
| Space_Man | well done Tim |
| schreiberstein | yahoo! |
| schreiberstein | thank you very much! |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: have to catch a train now, I'll check the channel log & mail for details on the meeting |
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| * Strangelv pcromptly runs into trouble with his test dist-upgrade | |
| rzs19 | Strangelv: sounds bad :( |
| rzs19 | Strangelv: sry for ma late response |
| MutantTurkey | what is CET timezone? |
| * MutantTurkey doesnt know where that is | |
| rzs19 | Strangelv: i hope you will get well, sometimes :/ |
| Strangelv | "Central European Time |
| Strangelv | I used to live in that time zone when I was in the Air Force |
| rzs19 | and CEST means Sommertime - useless :D |
| MutantTurkey | how far ahead is it? |
| Strangelv | "It's an hour or two ahead of GMT |
| MutantTurkey | I'd like Z_God to attend. |
| rzs19 | Strangelv: don't be sad, your not the only one here which is "sick". |
| Strangelv | "it wants to uninstall OpenOfficeorg, install firefox-trunk firefox-trunk-globalmenu icecat libqt3-mt libtqtinterface trinity-keyring ttf-opensymbol uno-libs3 ure |
| * Strangelv is too angry to be sad | |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: get rid of openoffice. |
| MutantTurkey | it's terrible! |
| MutantTurkey | install libreoffice :) |
| Strangelv | I'm running Meerkat. I don't know if Libre is available |
| MutantTurkey | Meerkat? |
| Strangelv | "But ye,s I do want to get id of OOo as soon as I can. I want nothing to do with Oracle |
| MutantTurkey | Oracle is evil! :p |
| Strangelv | "Trinity Kubuntu 10.10 |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| rzs19 | which distribution do you use? |
| Strangelv | "I want nothing to do with Oracle, Adobe, to the extent that it's avoidable, Sony... Con Agra... Monsanto... more I'm forgetting |
| rzs19 | i think debian stable has libeoffice in his backports, or install it fro mtesting and use apt pinning, when you use debian |
| Strangelv | Microsoft isn't on my boycot list -- it's preventing me frlom using any of its products by other means. EULAs and lack of Linux support |
| Strangelv | When things settle down I hope to upgrlade from Meerkat, but will probably test with another machine |
| Strangelv | I depend too heavily on this one |
| MutantTurkey | I like sony for their physical products |
| MutantTurkey | microsoft is byfar the least evil lately |
| Strangelv | Microsoft is being far more stupid than evil |
| MutantTurkey | I see Ubuntu much more evil than microsoft |
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| MutantTurkey | as well as oracle |
| MutantTurkey | they have more of an ability to hurt / effect the linux desktop. |
| MutantTurkey | they could either improve it greatly or totally destroy it. |
| MutantTurkey | Microsoft has no bearing on linux. |
| Strangelv | Microsoft might get on my list in its capacity as a patent troll |
| MutantTurkey | as compared to Oracle or SCO? |
| gryc | ubuntu is heading toward destruction. we have no chance to survive, make your time, etc. |
| Strangelv | What's a drop-in exit ramp from Kubuntu? |
| tonda-1337 | :-( http://pastebin.com/BypBUYkV |
| Strangelv | Something that doesn't require a reinstall or a mess of complications |
| MutantTurkey | tonda-1337: :[ lemmie take a look |
| tonda-1337 | this is just fyi... i'll edit the repo file on my machine to tell him the exact path |
| MutantTurkey | who's our redhat packager? |
| MutantTurkey | Francois? |
| rzs19 | oha! it seems that the snyc is done :D |
| rzs19 | *upgrading to 3.5.13* |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
| MutantTurkey | I just uploaded my arch packages to the AUR as well |
| rzs19 | maybe i had should do a backup of my system... hmm... |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: meh :P |
| MutantTurkey | actually you should |
| MutantTurkey | just in case :) |
| rzs19 | but i'am running out of space, my infrastrcuture is not done |
| rzs19 | need maybe brtfs for deduplication |
| rzs19 | there are much backupswith radundant data, which i need to clean with zfs, brtfs, or by hand |
| MutantTurkey | btrfs is not ready yet |
| MutantTurkey | imho |
| MutantTurkey | I am waitin for the btrfsck tool |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: from now, all development will be done on git? |
| rzs19 | i know, thats the problem with btrfs |
| rzs19 | zfs is due licensing not in the kernel, so i must use zfs with freebsd over qemu, or xen ... |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: definitely yes |
| MutantTurkey | that was decided a long time ago |
| MutantTurkey | tim is now making the migration |
| samelian | ok |
| MutantTurkey | as I can see, good progress as well http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/ |
| samelian | I think I should ask for commit rights |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | more people will have commit rights now |
| samelian | very well |
| MutantTurkey | because we own it |
| MutantTurkey | before SVN was at kde.org, we no longer want to rely on them. |
| samelian | I hope the quality of code will remain very high :) |
| MutantTurkey | if not higher :P |
| MutantTurkey | but for things like packages, we have a git repository for the packagers |
| MutantTurkey | obviously many people need commit access to that. |
| tonda-1337 | MutantTurkey: Good work! I'll try out the arch-pkgbuilds later.. is there a package mirror, or do i have to compile them myself? |
| MutantTurkey | tonda-1337: you will have to compile them yourself for now |
| MutantTurkey | I /can/ upload them to my server |
| MutantTurkey | I have x86_64 only though |
| tonda-1337 | i use x86_64 only |
| MutantTurkey | I am in the process of gaining control of our previous mirror. |
| MutantTurkey | tonda-1337: great! |
| MutantTurkey | want me to upload the packages to my server? |
| tonda-1337 | would be cool. i'll install arch again and try it out |
| MutantTurkey | its /very/ beta |
| MutantTurkey | I havent done any testing on it |
| MutantTurkey | other than me running it OK |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to test in a vm ok? |
| MutantTurkey | then i'll upload :0 |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | already realized some problems :P |
| tonda-1337 | yeah... no need to hurry up |
| MutantTurkey | well I need to write a rc.d script for it. |
| MutantTurkey | for kdm |
| MutantTurkey | you can still launch manually or with another WM |
| tonda-1337 | i don't use the deamon at all... I'll write it into inittab |
| rzs19 | upgrade done, logout ... cu in some minutes - i hope :P |
| tonda-1337 | :-D |
| tonda-1337 | good uck! |
| tonda-1337 | +l |
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| MutantTurkey | tonda-1337: really? |
| MutantTurkey | I have inittab |
| rzs19 | hmm damn run out of disk space :D |
| rzs19 | 54mb free |
| MutantTurkey | what it your kdm is crashing? then it constantly respawns it. |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: !? |
| MutantTurkey | wow |
| MutantTurkey | small hard drive? |
| tonda-1337 | MutantTurkey: then : CTRL+ALT+F1 -> root -> init 3 -> fix the problem -> init 5 |
| MutantTurkey | meh :p |
| MutantTurkey | I like the daemons way :) |
| tonda-1337 | :-D |
| rzs19 | 2x80, 1x250gb, 1x1TB, 1x500GB, 1x40GB. may desktop runs in a linux container and i forgot to bind mount my home, so the home lies on the root partition and noth on the home partion, my root has only 15 GB and my most data lies on my dockstar(it runs debian). |
| rzs19 | there are much more harddrives, but... i got confuesd :D |
| tonda-1337 | lol |
| rzs19 | one dockstar(my little can anything armserver), 2 workstations, one gaming pc, one old backupsystem, and old g3 mac and 2 kvm switches. |
| tonda-1337 | i often create just one partition for linux (on my gpt/guid-drive for my hackintosh) and then install arch on it. |
| tonda-1337 | partition is big enough for everything... no need for a swap partition... 16GB RAM :-p |
| rzs19 | oh and 2 amd geode, one thin and one to watch dvd, tv in the bedroom :D |
| MutantTurkey | partitions? |
| MutantTurkey | I use 256mb for /boot 30gb /root and the rest on /home. No swap space |
| rzs19 | i need to switch to lvm... |
| rzs19 | too much lxc, qemu andwahtever systems... |
| rzs19 | could it be that trinity ots faster, or its just a feeling? |
| rzs19 | maybe i run out of coffee? |
| MutantTurkey | trinity ots/ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| tonda-1337 | lol |
| rzs19 | is* |
| MutantTurkey | trinity is quite speedy for me |
| rzs19 | yeah but a mean faster that 3.5.12 |
| rzs19 | than* |
| rzs19 | or maybe we should drink more coffee? |
| MutantTurkey | haha :p |
| rzs19 | mentaly slow... or so |
| MutantTurkey | focus is always on stability, speed and improvments |
| rzs19 | you sound like a pr manager, or so... |
| rzs19 | marketing |
| MutantTurkey | my dad worked in PR for a while, I think I get it from him :) |
| MutantTurkey | I'm quite the salesman though. I should really get a job in retail! |
| rzs19 | well, nice i need soemone for my useless software, so its looks usefull :D |
| rzs19 | hmm, feels too fast, something must be wrong with my system |
| rzs19 | to* |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 581 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=581 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdelibs 3.5.13 FTBFS |
| rzs19 | well in my debian system is now a button "about ubuntu" |
| rzs19 | ähm kubuntu |
| rzs19 | kuhbuntu :D muh muh |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 582 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=582 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Can't build 3.5.13 tarballs with autotool with QT4 installed |
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| KingSphinx | Wait a sec, the mirror's working? |
| KingSphinx | :o The mirrors are up! YES!! |
| rzs19 | :D :D |
| rzs19 | and it seems 3.5.13 performs very well :) |
| KingSphinx | I just hope it's not as buggy as its nightly brethren |
| rzs19 | atm i use konsole, kwrite, superkaramba, konqueror, yakuake and its works. |
| rzs19 | +kate |
| schreiberstein | rzs19: which distro? |
| rzs19 | debian squeeze with a little bit of testing |
| KingSphinx | Ubuntu 11.10 here. |
| schreiberstein | i'll try 3.5.13 on archlinux. |
| rzs19 | it works, its fast, its seems to be stable |
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| rzs19 | http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8882/tbar4.png |
| MutantTurkey | http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/releases/3.5.13/applications/konv> http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8882/tbar4.png |
| MutantTurkey | sorry :P |
| rzs19 | hm? |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: what bar is that? |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: hey are you running arch now/ |
| MutantTurkey | I put pkgbuilds up on the AUR |
| rzs19 | my superkarambabar |
| MutantTurkey | if you want to try and build it |
| rzs19 | damn i do too much as root... |
| MutantTurkey | anyone who could give the PKGBUILDs a go would be awesome. |
| MutantTurkey | I've gotta go to a birthday dinner for my girlfriend... wish me luck :p |
| MutantTurkey | cya! |
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| rzs19 | cya |
| rzs19 | it works, but its not finished yet, no eyecandy and no config file, no configuration dialog, no task refresh and some rendering bugs. |
| edogaa | hmm |
| rzs19 | but i'am working on it :) |
| edogaa | no i386 yet |
| edogaa | at least not in fedora 15 lol |
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| rzs19 | i will upload the bar/dock when its ready to use :) and now i will play a little bit my hacked empire earth version :D bye bye |
| edogaa | see ya |
| rzs19 | bye :) |
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| schreiberstein | back |
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| schreiberstein | hello KingSphinx! |
| KingSphinx | Well, the mirrors work... sadly, Trinity's still as broken as the nightly. |
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| aquarius | hm... it works now?? |
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| KingSphinx | The mirrors are up, but Trinity's still got a few... bugs. |
| aquarius | i see. |
| aquarius | well then.. i'll wait till those are fixed. |
| aquarius | anyways.. i'm having sound probs again... |
| KingSphinx | Kicker's still got that bug where Settings or System will bring it down. |
| KingSphinx | Seems to be something related to SVG rendering. |
| aquarius | dunno about that |
| KingSphinx | Also, Kopete can't connect to Yahoo for me. |
| KingSphinx | The compositing manager works nicely though. |
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| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 2 hours, 9 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> cya! |
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| aquarius | anyone there? |
| schreiberstein | aquarius: lol... i'm here |
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| aquarius | hey |
| aquarius | do you know anything about ALSA? |
| schreiberstein | not that much... what's your problem? |
| aquarius | i've been having this nasty audio problem ever since i got onto Debian...... |
| aquarius | streams are taking over each other! |
| aquarius | usually in cooperation with special kinda programs like Skype... |
| aquarius | actually i did manage to make it work relatively fine altogether... but i then fucked it up a bit and had to re-install Debian again.. and so i did, and now it's back again.. and i dunno how to bring the last lucky setting back.. i really don't understand how it works... |
| aquarius | i wish i could get rid of it... |
| schreiberstein | i don't have a idea. i had problems with alsa on debian too... sound was nasty on the newest debian sid kernel. then i switched back to arch and these problems disappeared. sorry for being unhelpful :-( |
| aquarius | example: when i play something in a player and start up skype it jams the sound in both programs.. |
| aquarius | it's ok... |
| aquarius | it's THE ONLY prob i have... well, except for font rendering thing, but it's on every linux based OS, so i don't count that... |
| aquarius | the rest is just fine. |
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| aquarius | back i am... |
| schreiberstein | wb aquarius! |
| aquarius | thanks... |
| edogaa | :/ So how long till Fedora 15 32 bit can get trinity I wonder |
| edogaa | I see a lot of 64 bit stuff on some of the mirrors |
| KingSphinx | You on 32-bit? |
| edogaa | yeah |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 576 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=576 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kubuntu mirrors broken |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 572 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=572 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Problems with KDE Trinity 3.5.13 repositories on Debian Squeeze/Wheezy amd64 |
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| KingSphinx | Any idea if live CDs are going to be made available soon? |
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| schreiberstein | good night! |
| Space_Man | night |
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| edogaa | i think i'll ask on the mailinglist about 32bit :| |
| edogaa | nah I'll just wait (just looked at mangafrance) |
| edogaa | http://trinity.mangafrance.com/f15/trinity-3.5.13/RPMS/ i386... but there is nothing in there yet. |
| edogaa | o_O Uidaho or whatever it's called has only 64 bit binaries. hmm |
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| KingSphinx | Until a patch is commited for the KMenu bug, a way around it is to use Kickoff. Crazy, I know, but at least Kickoff isn't crashing over something as silly as an art bug. |
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| rzs19 | good evning :) |
| aquarius | hey.. |
| KingSphinx | Also, I think Trinity just plain doesn't like my USB headset >_> sound will work just fine through my speakers, but I can't get anything through that headset. |
| rzs19 | aquarius: your land looks nice :) |
| aquarius | hah.. :) |
| aquarius | thanks |
| aquarius | why would you mention it now? |
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| rzs19 | is this a feature, that my left screen get locked, but i can see any programm on my right screen and not just a wallpaper, or black screen? |
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| aquarius | don't ask me |
| rzs19 | soo, i need to go, watch a film and go to bed, cu you tommorow |
| rzs19 | good night :) |
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| Xu_R | o3o |
| Xu_R | I thought tim was waiting until dec to move? o_O |
| edogaa | ah |
| edogaa | in uidaho.edu it seems they'll only put up x86_64 architecture version of trinity o._O |
| edogaa | :/ do sll mirrors really just do their own thing. |
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| KingSphinx | Would it be worth noting that the KMenu bug somehow doesn't affect Exe Linux? I'm still using Ubuntu, mind you, but nothing really bad happened while running my Exe Linux live CD. |
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| MutantTurkey | whew party went okay |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | forgot my charger though, I thought I was charging it and it turns out it wasnt plugged in properly... I have 10% to write an english paper on |
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| edogaa | is there going to be support for 64 bit Fedora 15? o.O |
| edogaa | because I see very few 32 bit stuff on the two mirrors |
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| KingSphinx | If only Exe's installer weren't so confusing to me, I might have it installed by now. |
| KingSphinx | Also, I have absolutely no idea why GTK applications are not following my KDE settings. Possible bug? |
| gryc | KingSphinx: that kmenu bug is dependant on which version of libart is installed and/or linked against. Exe Linux may have a different (older?) version. |
| gryc | Also some gtk apps are crashing for me, but it may be my wonky install to blame for that. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=572 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Problems with KDE Trinity 3.5.13 repositories on Debian Squeeze/Wheezy amd64 |
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| KingSphinx | Bleh, why won't my GTK apps work right with Trinity? Also, the Keramik decoration seems to be missing entirely. |
| MutantTurkey | do you have it set? |
| MutantTurkey | in the kcontrol settings? |
| MutantTurkey | under appearances & themes i think |
| KingSphinx | Mhm, if I set it, the window decorator seems to diappear. |
| KingSphinx | *disappear |
| KingSphinx | As in KWin seems to crash or something, I can't access any window controls/borders unless I select a different window decoration. |
| MutantTurkey | submit bug |
| MutantTurkey | with backtrace |
| MutantTurkey | I can hack on it maybe |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
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| KingSphinx | How can I get a backtrace if TDE doesn't report a crash? The decoration just never shows up, leaves my windows with no borders... |
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| jumpship | Is anyone using konversation-trinity? |
| KingSphinx | I have it, but I'm in Windows right now, so I'm using XChat-WDK. |
| jumpship | I'm trying to enable the system tray icon, I can't seems to get the setting to save, any issues you know of? Looked on bugtracker already. |
| KingSphinx | Nothing I know of, it works fine so far on my end. |
| jumpship | Thanks, I'll look closer at this install then. |
| KingSphinx | Kubuntu, Debian or Fedora? |
| jumpship | Debian |
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| * Strangelv discovers that the source-related files for Meerkat contain things important for mocre than just installing from source | |
| Strangelv | "It sems to be working for me now |
| KingSphinx | You installed Trinity Meerkat, then upgraded up to Oneiric? |
| Strangelv | "That's the plan, although I believ i need to upgrade to Natty in between |
| * Strangelv needs t get it to do this witnhout updating Icecat yet. He doesn't want to restart icecat | |
| KingSphinx | I hoped that was implied from what I said earlier... |
| Strangelv | I probably missed it |
| Strangelv | Actually I need to get up and do something before trying this |
| Strangelv | "Plus make a phone call. Have someone who may be stopping by to pick up some political signs to get up before voting on Tuesday |
| Strangelv | "Has anyone tested doing the upgrlade with dist-upgrade? |
| * Strangelv may need to break down and restart icecad so he can do it that way exactly | |
| Strangelv | bbiab |
| KingSphinx | So in order to have a fully-working Trinity, I'd need to install using a 10.10 live CD, then upgrade all the way to 11.10, then install 3.5.13? |
| Strangelv | If you're doing a celan install you can skip those steps, but I don't know exactly what packages to install after installation |
| Strangelv | "or even a reinstall |
| * Strangelv is wanting to avoid a reinstall | |
| Strangelv | "You could grab Ubuntu Server or something, then edit sources.lis,t then install the needed packages |
| KingSphinx | Reinstalls aren't that bad for me since I keep a separate / and /home, but it still sounds a bit tedious. Plus, I need a desktop because my wireless won't work out-of-box with Ubuntu, I have to set up firmware. |
| * Strangelv is hoping to just run apt-get dist-upgrade a few times | |
| Strangelv | My main complication is keeping track of all the things I'd need to reinstall |
| Strangelv | "I also learned long ago to give / its own partition. Usually a relatively small one |
| Strangelv | I kind of splurged and made it around 64 GB this time. Less than half is in use |
| KingSphinx | Same for me, though I'm also concerned about whether Trinity would stay installed between installations. |
| KingSphinx | I gave 12 GB to / |
| KingSphinx | only about half is ever used. |
| Strangelv | "I've had less, but usually ran into trouble eventually |
| Strangelv | df says my root is using 19 GB |
| Strangelv | so quite a bit less than half |
| Strangelv | 32 GB probably would have been sufficient; 24 wuld have been cutting it close; 20 or less and I'd be in trouble |
| Strangelv | anything before I disappear? |
| KingSphinx | Nothing that I can think of other than wondering at which point in the upgrade process to switch over to 3.5.13 sources. |
| Strangelv | "I would say immediately |
| Strangelv | "My step one is to upgrade to 3.5.13 for Meerkat |
| Strangelv | "Then upgrade to NAtty, then to Oneric |
| KingSphinx | Seems like a good idea |
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| Strangelv | ...unless I find out first that that won't work. I need to test it on another machine first |
| Strangelv | Complication is the easiest one to test it on is stuck at Jaunty |
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| KingSphinx | Should I install a WM so I can do the upgrades outside of the Trinity environment or is it safe to do that within TDE? |
| Strangelv | ...and if i upgrade it my display doesn't work because something changed after Jaunty that doesn't support my 17" display |
| Strangelv | WM? |
| KingSphinx | Windows manager, like Fluxbox, IceWM, Window Maker... |
| KingSphinx | er, *window |
| Strangelv | I don't believe so, or at least I've never doen that that I can recall |
| Strangelv | "I've normalyl run apt-get from konsole |
| Strangelv | even for upgrading realyl big and important things |
| Strangelv | bbiab |
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| Strangelv | back |
| gryc | KingSphinx: I upgraded from maverick to natty to oneric yesterday and then installed trinity. If you're worried, uninstall all the trinity packages before upgrading? |
| gryc | And your windowmanager should stay in memory while doing your upgrade. it's only copying new files over after all |
| KingSphinx | Then that would sort of defeat the purpose of (hopefully) getting 3.5.13 to fully work. Strangelv thinks that by installing 3.5.12, then upgrading to .13, it might fix a few issues currently present in .13 |
| KingSphinx | Matter of fact, I could do the upgrade from .12 to .13 before ever upgrading from Maverick... |
| gryc | Yeah, you could |
| gryc | and by staying in memory, I mean when you log out and back in it will re-load all your new trinity binaries and such |
| Strangelv | "I don't see valiue in installing 3.5.12 if .13 is available at all meaningful entry points |
| Strangelv | unless it's already installed |
| KingSphinx | I was hoping that, by installing 3.5.12 first, then upgrading to 3.5.13, I might be able to do away with the issues present in 3.5.13... |
| KingSphinx | Or would that not work? |
| gryc | What would be the difference between upgrading and just installing .13? |
| KingSphinx | Hopefully it would preserve my settings? For one, GTK apps aren't working properly with Trinity right now, the Keramik style is missing its window border, you know about the Kicker crash related to KMenu... |
| gryc | are your settings not stored in ~/.trinity/? |
| KingSphinx | They were, but like a dummy, I deleted my .trinity thinking it would fix the Kicker glitch. Ever since starting fresh, it's been practically nothing but trouble for me. |
| gryc | I know how you feel, it took me forever to turn off the interminable bleeps and bloops when I did anything |
| KingSphinx | The window noises? |
| gryc | The everything noises :P |
| gryc | open, close, maximize, minimize, shading, all that crap |
| KingSphinx | I sorta like them (I find them part of the charm of KDE3), but I can see why they'd get annoying |
| gryc | well I do a lot of stuff with my windows and it got annoying quick |
| jumpship | KingSphinx: Didn't you run kicker in a terminal and get messages related to art_render_gradient.c when it crashed? |
| KingSphinx | But what my thinking is, is that by installing 3.5.12, then upgrading to .13 instead of installing fresh, is that my settings and whatever will carry over. And yes, jumpship, I did. |
| jumpship | bug 554 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
| KingSphinx | Aw, it won't be patched for quite a while? |
| jumpship | I don't really know, just something about that made me remember your issue |
| * Strangelv /looks for where to disable the gradient before running apt-get | |
| Strangelv | "...or maybe I should postpone doig something that might eat up more time than expected until after Tuesday... |
| gryc | The solution is to compile your own version of that library with the patch in that bug applied. |
| KingSphinx | So would upgrading from 3.5.12 have the same effect as just installing fresh or would stuff like GTK work better? I sort of suspect GTK having issues in 11.10 because I probably don't have a lot of GTK2 stuff installed |
| jumpship | I wonder if the GTK thing isn't because of the gtk-qt thing, are you using the pkg that renders gtk prog with qt? |
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| jumpship | gtk-qt-engine is what it's called |
| KingSphinx | It's installed and I have GTK apps set to use my KDE style, that's precisely why I say there's a problem because, well, they *don't* folloy Qt style. |
| KingSphinx | *follow |
| jumpship | gtk3 apps? |
| KingSphinx | GTK2 and stuff like Firefox; GTK3 apps flat-out refuse to work in TDE now. |
| jumpship | yep, bug 547 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=547 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, gtk-qt-engine does not support GTK3 |
| jumpship | gtk2 should work, at least I havn't seen anything related to gtk2 no working |
| KingSphinx | GTK2/Firefox will work to varying degrees of success, but none of them will follow TDE theme-wise |
| jumpship | Can't help ya there, I just keep things simple by not using the engine |
| Strangelv | "Is the gradient a .13 feature? |
| jumpship | But that wouldn't help you if you're trying to get them to look the same |
| gryc | the gradient issue is an ancient libart bug |
| gryc | it never got fixed because nothing uses it anymore, except for trinity, that is :p |
| Strangelv | What is it used for? |
| jumpship | I think it had to do with svg support, but could be wrong |
| gryc | Yes, it's for rendering SVGs |
| gryc | it's an assert gone awry for some reason |
| gryc | but the patch is there. I'd like to say I'll give a whack at fixing it for good sometime, but work makes me busy :( |
| gryc | would be nice to move to a better/newer library for svg, but that's quite an undertaking. |
| gryc | But anyway, time for sleep |
| * Strangelv waves | |
| jumpship | Looks like tim plans to absorb the lib, if it's dead |
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| Strangelv | Move the needed components to a new library with a different name? |
| Strangelv | "maybeq combinedh iwth other orphaned needed dependancies? |
| jumpship | Thats sounds like the plan |
| Strangelv | kewl |
| KingSphinx | It's odd how this bug never surfaced until .13... |
| * Strangelv still doesn't have a clu.e what he ought to disable before the upgrade | |
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| NuxRo | hi guys, has been a week since you announced 3.5.13 and still no binary packages... any repo that has all EL6 rpms? |
| Fat-Zer | i've seen somothing about red hat repository in mail list... |
| NuxRo | any links? I'm not subscribed |
| Fat-Zer | 1 min... |
| Fat-Zer | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#redhat |
| NuxRo | oh |
| NuxRo | that one |
| NuxRo | it doesnt work |
| Fat-Zer | =\ |
| Fat-Zer | can't say nothing more... |
| NuxRo | so, devs should have wait until downloads worked, then announce |
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| duindain | hi, does anyone know how to start trinity from the command line ie for vnc? something like gnome-session & |
| Fleck | lol @ NuxRo |
| edogaa | >_>;; lol |
| edogaa | I'm still waiting for 32 bit trinity :/ |
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| edogaa | -.- maybe i should reinstall to 64 bit. |
| edogaa | How much more ram does a 64 bit system use? |
| edogaa | ( has 2 Gigs of ram) |
| Fleck | why should 64bit use more ram? |
| edogaa | 64 bit porgrams use slightly more ram than their 32 bit counterparts |
| edogaa | BUT there is a slight performance increase...though depending on what you're doing the increase can also be enormous |
| duindain | anyone have issues installing this? mine is currently trying to uninstall sudo |
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| Fleck | :D |
| edogaa | THe other benefit though, is that you can use more than 4 gigs of ram as well (but not the only...but it is ONE OF THE BENEFITS). |
| Fleck | i have not noticed that 32bit uses more ram than 64bit |
| edogaa | other way around |
| Fleck | yeah |
| edogaa | and of course you /won't/ |
| edogaa | I mean, you will if you take a look but hold up lemme get you what I Saw in LFS... |
| Fleck | i have 8GB now |
| Fleck | Unused RAM is wasted RAM. |
| edogaa | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/architecture.html |
| edogaa | YEs, unused ram is wasted ram :/ |
| * Strangelv forked out for a now obso[lete workstation board. He has 16 GB, and probably needs to buy more before rgistered DDR2 becomes too expensive and hald to get | |
| Strangelv | I thikn i multitask enough that I'd have to get pretty carried away to have unused |
| edogaa | BUT I am wondering if the increase in memory will be a bit much on 2 gigs...doesn't seem like it though |
| Fleck | TDE and 2GB should be enough! |
| Strangelv | Depends on what else you're doing |
| * Strangelv : 15429 strangel 20 0 3100m 2.1g 27m R 89 13.1 2414:51 icecat | |
| edogaa | :/ ugh, and stuff gets so slooooooooooooow |
| edogaa | once it starts using your swap |
| edogaa | .________. i need more memory lol |
| Strangelv | I've learned the hard way that 64 GB of swap isn't a good idea. Something will go nuts and claim an infinite amount of memory and the kernel won't kill it until it uses up the entire swap partition |
| edogaa | XD |
| edogaa | why would you even NEED that much swap |
| Strangelv | something I've read abut is to have a SSD for swap as effectively slow RAM |
| Strangelv | The complication is I'm wondering how long it would last |
| edogaa | LOL |
| edogaa | i wonder if there is a way to 'upgrade' fedora from 32 to 64 bit :/ |
| edogaa | without losing anything |
| * Strangelv holds up a 12 layer 7680x7680 truecolor graphic. He's had as much as abut a hundred of these open at once | |
| edogaa | lol? |
| Strangelv | "Unfortunately, I'm not aware of anyoen making a 32 to 64 upgrade solution |
| edogaa | ah |
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| Strangelv | "If /home is a separate partition the least bad solution is to docment everything you'd want to reinstall after reinstalling the operating system |
| Strangelv | Make absolutely sure you don't guess the wrong format for /home -- Ubuntu's installer will happily reformat it for you. 8( |
| edogaa | I honestly don't know how this LVM crap works :/ |
| edogaa | But I am sure it is...:/ more or less |
| Strangelv | LVM? Kernel Virtual Machine? |
| edogaa | no. |
| edogaa | I'm not even sure I used the right... |
| edogaa | thats the term, god i must be tired lol |
| Strangelv | I've looked into KVM and still intend ot set up a few sometime, but it was more complexb than I was abel to deal with the time I tried |
| edogaa | Ah |
| * Strangelv tries to look for his teenage self woh thrived on complexity | |
| * Strangelv needs to remember how long ago the 1980s really are | |
| edogaa | So, basically reinstall the entire root partition but keep home the same? |
| Strangelv | yes. All of yur settings should be there. Actualyl some things put their stuff in other places, and hopefulyl you can guess waht they are |
| edogaa | lol, I See. |
| Strangelv | fonts, ROM images, audio samples -- these are some of the things that might be in /usr/share or someplace |
| edogaa | hmm |
| edogaa | hopefully /usr/ isn't in a seperate partition |
| edogaa | how does fedora seperate them |
| Strangelv | usr is under root. Expect it to get wiped out |
| edogaa | lol |
| Strangelv | I don't know how it arranges things by default. They could tehoretically all be on separate partitions |
| Strangelv | "and even subdivided |
| Strangelv | I have an old drive somewhere where /boot is a 20 or so MB (yes, MB) partition |
| edogaa | mmm |
| Strangelv | I don't remember why that was useful |
| Strangelv | It was a long time ago |
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| Strangelv | being /boot, it did'nt need to be any larger thanr that |
| animeking | mmhmm |
| animeking | more hdd capacity? |
| Strangelv | Th one thing I don't know how to do would be if teher's any solution for grouping them -- ie /usr/bin and /var on one partition |
| Strangelv | that may not be doable |
| Strangelv | giving it a separate partition actually ace disk capacity, justa trivial amount. It did eat up a partition slot, though |
| Strangelv | s/ace/ate/ |
| Strangelv | it might have been a workaround for a long forgotten problem |
| Strangelv | what do you see when you type in df -h ? |
| animeking | a lot of things |
| animeking | my eyes kinda hurt atm lol |
| animeking | eh, I Don't really feel like doing this :/ |
| animeking | if i do, i'll get even more side tracked |
| Strangelv | "Tomorrow is the best time-saving device available today |
| animeking | so I'll do it later :/ if it trinity isn't out by say december 15th |
| Strangelv | "Should definietly be available well before then. Admittedly, it should be available already... |
| Strangelv | It is, just not with teh binary packages you're needing |
| animeking | yeah, but I don't see 32 bit binaries in mangafrance... |
| animeking | yeah |
| animeking | or uidaho |
| Strangelv | if 64 bit is an option, try to rememberl to verify if /home is a separate partition, and look for whatever data might be inconvenientyl located elsewhere |
| Strangelv | Ideally, there won't be |
| animeking | mmhmm |
| animeking | it just seems to be, swap, root and home |
| Strangelv | then note what you need to reinstall |
| Strangelv | Reinstalling Linux is a lot less painful than reinstalling MS Windows |
| Strangelv | sounds good |
| animeking | though, i don't understand how the LVM2 partitioning scheme works lol |
| Strangelv | make suer you know which is which and what format. I can't give you specific things to watch out for as I'm not using he same distro you are |
| Strangelv | yeah, needs to be seen as a physical partition to teh installer |
| Strangelv | If in doubt, make bacrkups- |
| * Strangelv needs to do that himself again sometime. It's what he bought his blu-ray burner for, after all | |
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| animeking | Hmm, I wonder...why is it taking so long for the 32 bit binaries lol |
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| Strangelv | Probably the same rleason everything else got held up |
| animeking | :( |
| Strangelv | At least it's not all at a standstill now |
| animeking | indeed, just it's even funnier...that I chose 32 bit when on most of my other PCs I go for 64 bit xD |
| Strangelv | "I'd rlather not admit to how long I had been awaiting 64 bits, only to end up unable to get ahold of 64 bit for quiet awhile after x86 had a 64 bit implementation on the market |
| animeking | lol |
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| Strangelv | I finally got a used 939 pin Athlon 64 around 2008 or so |
| Strangelv | Morning |
| Strangelv | "or maybe 2007. I can't remember anymore |
| animeking | why do you use a double qoute at the start? |
| Strangelv | a hibit I pickeup up in late 1999 with ASI MOO, which is still my primary hangout |
| Strangelv | It's also why you'll see me fumblre and say :: instead of /me |
| animeking | ah |
| animeking | when will the mirros try syncing again i wonder? |
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| animeking | "- Fedora 15 (x86_64 architecture only)." hmm...on another note i see an i386 folder now in the uidaho mirror |
| animeking | but the folder is empty |
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| animeking | i'm gonna sleep now |
| animeking | night :/ |
| animeking | 2 hours of sleep ftw :D |
| Strangelv | ow. get some sleep |
| jumpship | Strangelv: It is possible to put /usr/bin and /var on one partition seperate from root, using symlinks |
| jumpship | and a small /boot was useful when the partition you wanted to use as root was formatted with a fs that wasn't built into the kernel (compiled as module) |
| Fat-Zer | also separate boot is useful in case of powerfail... |
| jumpship | oops, really it was if grub (or lilo) didn't support your fs of choice |
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| rzs19 | hello :) |
| jumpship | Anyone using konversation-trinity? |
| Fat-Zer | i'm currently using old oneffrom3.5.10 |
| Fat-Zer | *old one from kde 3.5.10 |
| Fat-Zer | that's counts? |
| jumpship | I don't think that'll help, I'm trying to figure out what seems to be a bug, I think it's from the conversion to tqt, I'm wondering if it's better in .13 |
| jumpship | It seems to be a very nice client, I just wish the settings worked |
| Fat-Zer | what a bug? |
| jumpship | I think somethings in the settings dialog didn't get changed to their tqt versions |
| jumpship | in the terminal I see messages about QGroupBox not existing, and I think QGroupBox should have become TQGroupBox |
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| Fat-Zer | yeap... no messages for me... |
| jumpship | I guess I'll just go back to kopete till I can check out .13, or manually craft a konversationrc file if that doesn't work |
| jumpship | You were working on intergrating a different rendering engine into konq, right? |
| Fat-Zer | me? |
| Fat-Zer | no |
| Fat-Zer | i'm working on gentoo packaging and cmake |
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| xiaoy | Trinity doesn't really work on ubuntu lucid, right? |
| rzs19 | yep me, but not now |
| xiaoy | ? |
| rzs19 | yyesterday i have used konversation from triity 3.5.13 |
| rzs19 | trinity* |
| jumpship | Does the systemtray icon setting work? |
| xiaoy | jumpship, if you are sying to me: no, doesn't work |
| jumpship | Are you useing 3.5.13 version? |
| rzs19 | is just regonized some troubles with xinerama |
| Z_God | xiaoy: I'm running it on lucid right now |
| xiaoy | Z_God, did you follow the instruction on the website to install? |
| xiaoy | when i do it, i get kdeinit error, and i can't get konqueror to start |
| xiaoy | also i can't initialize the wifi |
| Z_God | xiaoy: I'm still using 3.5.11 |
| Z_God | what you see seem to be huge bugs in 3.5.13 |
| Z_God | could you report them? |
| xiaoy | Z_God, that's why... is there a way to get 3.5.11 installed on lucyd? do i just have to change the version number in the repos to get it working? |
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| Z_God | xiaoy: I can give you my apt lines |
| xiaoy | Z_God, thanks a lot ;-) |
| Z_God | xiaoy: note this is version is *really* old now |
| Z_God | http://pastebin.com/pZCF5H91 |
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| xiaoy | Z_God, do you have also the GPG key of the repos? |
| Z_God | xiaoy: I guess the instructions here should do it: https://launchpad.net/~kde3-maintainers/+archive/ppa |
| xiaoy | Z_God, thanks a lot |
| xiaoy | Z_God, you say this version works well? |
| Z_God | xiaoy: there are also old live images with lucid |
| Z_God | they definitely work |
| Z_God | xiaoy: http://tokra.lv/ |
| Strangelv | !seen tokra |
| tbottu | Strangelv: tokra was last seen in #trinity-desktop 4 weeks, 6 days, 14 hours, 43 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <TokRa> o.O |
| xiaoy | Z_God, thanks. But i need an installation for repos, not a new distro to install... |
| Strangelv | Lucid is the long term support version IIRC -- it is one we should be supporting |
| Z_God | xiaoy: no problem, I hope you can easily remove the trinity packages you have now |
| Z_God | you really need to purge them all |
| Strangelv | higher priority than Meerkat, which I'm only running because I couldn't upgrade from that until around yesterday short of going with the nightlies repository |
| xiaoy | Z_God, did it already ;-) |
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| Z_God | then kubuntu-desktop-kde3 instead of kubuntu-desktop-trinity & so on |
| xiaoy | Strangelv, unfortunalely 3.5.12-13 don't work on lucid |
| Strangelv | oops. What's teh obstacle? |
| Z_God | xiaoy: I have not been able to test newer versions yet, these bugs should be fixed soon though |
| Z_God | 3.5.12 nightlies did work on lucid |
| Z_God | 3.5.13 was mainly tested with natty I think |
| xiaoy | Z_God, 3.5.12 was working only ater forcing a pkg install |
| xiaoy | and still, on 3.5.12, i can't get my wireless to work |
| xiaoy | *after |
| Z_God | xiaoy: you mean knetworkmanager doesn't work? |
| xiaoy | Z_God, i mean also issueing wifi command in cli |
| Z_God | that's not related to trinity |
| xiaoy | Z_God, it must be: in gnome works all correctly |
| Z_God | then you're using gnome's tools |
| Z_God | but trinity does not affect any commandline tool functioning |
| Strangelv | Do Gnome's tools disable the CLI? |
| xiaoy | Z_God, dunno... i'm just reporting what i see |
| Strangelv | CLI tools, rather |
| jumpship | If the gnome tool works you could just use that from trinity |
| xiaoy | dhclient was not connecting well, maybe was because kdenetworkmanager |
| xiaoy | it must be like that |
| xiaoy | i maybe had to remove it, and than try again |
| Strangelv | knetwork manager sabotaging neworking wihel it's up and running sounds like a possibility. I should try networking on my notebook with issues withut the GUI running |
| Z_God | there are always issues using gui & cli tools at the same time |
| jumpship | There was talk on the mailing list about a change in networkmanager (the backend) seems the gnome tool has been updated, but the trinity knetworkmanager hasn't |
| Z_God | especially because the gui works through networkmanager and the cli stuff mostly does not |
| xiaoy | Z_God, on your system do you use kdenetworkmager? |
| Z_God | xiaoy: yep |
| xiaoy | and works as well as gnome's networkmanager? |
| xiaoy | do you have to disable the gnme's one to let kde's work propery? |
| Z_God | I never used the gnome one much |
| Z_God | it does what it needs to do, but more advanced stuff doesn't work with it |
| Z_God | simple stuff like wpa & wired ethernet are no problem |
| xiaoy | Z_God, and what about memory usage, is kde 3.5.11 lighter than ubuntu lucid's gnome version? |
| Z_God | I think so |
| xiaoy | good |
| Z_God | but I am not a gnome user |
| Z_God | I never really compared |
| xiaoy | thaks anyway |
| Z_God | best thing to do is just trying it |
| Strangelv | I've also done rather little with gnome |
| Strangelv | It wasn't until I ran acroos a Gnome developer's comments about why he hated KDE that I understood why I liked KDE so much better. He said that 'KDE developers never met a control they didn't like' |
| Strangelv | That's probably the best description of purpose and mission for KDE3/TDE I've read |
| xiaoy | Strangelv, what does it mean "never met a control they didn't like"? |
| Strangelv | GIMp tries to dumb things down -- to the point of hiding what the names of some applications are, in the belief that users don't need to know that the archive manager they're using is named File Roller |
| Strangelv | or that the image viewer is nabed eye of Gnome. Which to me is instant confusion. What do I call this application. 'file viewer that isn't Gwenview'? |
| jumpship | I never understood the gconf thing, they'd talk about confusing options dialogs in kde, so they hide them in a less well organized registry like lump |
| Strangelv | "They also tend to streamline controls, and according to what I've been told, it ends up requiring users to hack on text files to do certian things. KDE tries to do absolutely everytnhing potentially useful in the GUI |
| Strangelv | That must be it |
| Strangelv | The KDE developers took a very different tack, at leastu ntil they decided to throw away everything that made KDE great exceph for Konqueror and start over with something inferior |
| Strangelv | So something we need to keep in mind is what it is that we're most needing to carry the banner for |
| jumpship | That really blew me away, KDE4. Long live Trinity |
| xiaoy | good bye people, time to go... thanks again for the support |
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| Strangelv | We should have systematically grilled kiaoy for enough information for a bug report |
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| _Pete_ | hmm |
| Strangelv | Morninf |
| l0ner | mornin |
| _Pete_ | why is (again) installing trinity wanting to remove sudo package |
| l0ner | !seen kb9vqf |
| tbottu | l0ner: kb9vqf was last seen in #trinity-desktop 5 days, 9 hours, 22 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <kb9vqf> gn |
| jumpship | I think the plan is to kill knetworkmanager, or rewrite it |
| Z_God | _Pete_: will be replaced with sudo-trinity |
| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 8 hours, 26 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> :) |
| l0ner | I wonder why trinity can't use normal sudo |
| Z_God | it's something with the paths in the sudo preferences |
| l0ner | paths? |
| Z_God | _Pete_: you need to have a root password set temporarily to allow the installation to work |
| _Pete_ | I remembered something like that from earlier version |
| _Pete_ | was kind of trouble after noticed it :) |
| * Strangelv remembers needing to hack on paths to get kdsu to work | |
| jumpship | Some info on the sudo problem: |
| jumpship | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::319 |
| Strangelv | ...and the problem comes pre-fixed as of .13 ... although a prob0lem might occur if someone else resorts to the same solution and a user has both |
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| Strangelv | Speaking of Debian. Have they been sending us any patches from downstream? |
| jumpship | I'm not sure we'd see that without it being officially part of debian |
| Strangelv | I guess that would be a preresiquite, yes |
| jumpship | and while using /opt I don't think they'll include it |
| Strangelv | How long until we no longer need to hang out in /opt? |
| jumpship | I havn't heard any talk of changing anytime soon |
| Strangelv | ...or how mouch trouble would it be to supprot more than one location? |
| Strangelv | with the non-/opt location existing primarily for Debian and others that consider /opt to be a no longer even depreciated historical relic? |
| jumpship | I think that would need everything out of the kde namespace |
| Strangelv | That's already on our to-do list, right? |
| jumpship | I'm not sure |
| jumpship | It's a lot of work for not much benefit |
| * Strangelv hasn't kept up with the development notes for months. He hopes to remember that there's a meeting on the 15th | |
| jumpship | Has a time been picked? |
| Strangelv | Support from Debian would probably be worth it |
| Strangelv | IIRC it's sometime in teh afternoon Eastern Standard Time, but I can't remember exactly when |
| jumpship | I'd love to see it included in Debian |
| Strangelv | That's worth being a major goal in and of itself |
| * Strangelv is probably not the only person who didn't kven know /opt existed until TDE moved there | |
| jumpship | Know any Debian devs? |
| Strangelv | no, this is really my only involvement with the free and open source communities |
| Strangelv | ...and I've been far too not involved enough |
| jumpship | Google Earth or something else from google uses /opt |
| Strangelv | Nice to know we're not literally teh only existing product using it |
| Strangelv | s/existing/not purely historical/ |
| jumpship | I used it in some of my strange packages (wine games) |
| _Pete_ | I think /opt is traditionally used in linux to install non-open/commercial software |
| jumpship | Thats the impression I got, something else I used to use (non-free) went there, don't remember what |
| Strangelv | So we may not actually belong there... |
| jumpship | tldp.org says: This directory is reserved for all the software and add-on packages that are not part of the default installation. |
| Strangelv | ...and we want to be one of the available defaults |
| jumpship | that might be outdated anyway, it mentions staroffice and wordperfect |
| jumpship | brings back memories |
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| * Strangelv looks for his WinWord 2 floppies to install to /opt under WINE | |
| Strangelv | "WinWOrd 2 had a feature I've desperately missed ever since: right click select made a selection of what was bound inside the rectangle and nothing outside of it -- so you could select a sliver of multiple lines separate fromt the rest of the lines |
| jumpship | like block select? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 583 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=583 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [kdelibs] startkde fails because of undefined symbol _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv |
| Strangelv | That looks pretty serious |
| * Strangelv hadn't heard of blokc select before now | |
| Strangelv | Can't find it in OOo 3.2 |
| Z_God | Strangelv: it's in kate at least |
| jumpship | I don't know about OOo, but kwrite and I'm sure kate have it |
| * Strangelv cheers loudly | |
| Strangelv | Thank you! |
| jumpship | Welcome, I find it handy too, I noticed it has a bug dealing with tabs |
| * Strangelv has some old documents that need to be de-columned | |
| * Strangelv looks at the time. The recycrling truck will by by imminently | |
| jumpship | treats tabs as a single char, and lines up the block based on char |
| Z_God | maybe it's fixed in kate 4.x ;) |
| jumpship | More likely no longer exists :) |
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| Z_God | what do you mean? |
| _Pete_ | hmm apt-get install didnt quite work :( |
| _Pete_ | http://pastebin.com/ZJzYAZiJ |
| _Pete_ | this is oneiric 64bit |
| Z_God | never saw this one... |
| Z_God | you should check in which package those files are supposed to be |
| Z_God | and why they're missing |
| Z_God | I would advice using auto-apt for that |
| jumpship | What would Trinity's session manager have to do with gtk2, or am I missing something? |
| Fat-Zer | what arch's trinity currently officialy support? |
| Fat-Zer | or just known to work |
| jumpship | Dunno, is it on the website? |
| Fat-Zer | site saies onlyabout distributions... |
| Fat-Zer | and alpha arch on debiaan.. |
| jumpship | Thats likely all, i386, amd64, and (debian only) armel, there was talk about armel for ubuntu if debian goes well |
| Fat-Zer | and there is no information about build tries on ppc or arm? |
| Strangelv | "Possibyl because we lack anyone who can do those ports with any confidence |
| Fat-Zer | i'm just interested in this only becaouse i'm thinking what keywords to put to my ebuilds... |
| _Pete_ | http://pastebin.com/QTpb4ff7 |
| _Pete_ | how about this one |
| Z_God | _Pete_: this is a bug in the upgrading process indeed |
| Z_God | use smth like this: |
| Z_God | sudo dpkg -r --force-all kubuntu-default-settings-kde3 |
| Z_God | and repeat (if that errors, do sudo apt-get -f install first & then repeat) |
| _Pete_ | hmm |
| _Pete_ | did that -r |
| _Pete_ | ant then install -f |
| _Pete_ | but it still complains about that divert |
| Z_God | hmm |
| _Pete_ | http://pastebin.com/nGNamBSH |
| Z_God | I guess you didn't change any diversions yourself? |
| _Pete_ | no idea what that even is |
| Z_God | in any case, this looks like a bug to me |
| Z_God | you could try temporarily removing the package containing that file & then installing both ksmserver-trinity and that package again |
| _Pete_ | which file exactly? |
| Z_God | this one: /usr/bin/plasma.kde4 |
| _Pete_ | apt-file says nothing about it |
| Z_God | I don't know apt-file |
| _Pete_ | and cant install auto-apt at the moment that you suggested |
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| Z_God | what does dpkg -S /usr/bin/plasma.kde4 say? |
| _Pete_ | # dpkg -S /usr/bin/plasma.kde4 |
| _Pete_ | local diversion from: /usr/bin/plasma |
| _Pete_ | local diversion to: /usr/bin/plasma.kde4 |
| gcsimon | hi all |
| Z_God | gcsimon: hi |
| Z_God | dpkg -S /usr/bin/plasma ? |
| _Pete_ | the same |
| gcsimon | i' currently trying to install trinity in a xen-vm. any hint on how to do that? |
| Z_God | that doesn't seem correct |
| Z_God | gcsimon: two ways, either get an old live cd & install from that |
| Z_God | gcsimon: or install a commandline only system and follow the instructions from the site |
| gcsimon | ok thx |
| Z_God | that'll give you ubuntu with trinity |
| gcsimon | the recent live cd crashes in a hardware full-virt vm |
| gcsimon | but i will give console-pnly a shot |
| Z_God | it should not be different from a normal ubuntu cd in that sense |
| Z_God | so I would expect normal ubuntu to crash as well |
| Z_God | unless it is due to an outdated kernel on the trinity live-cd |
| Z_God | commandline only should definitely work |
| Z_God | _Pete_: I hope you can find out a bit more about those files, it seems I can't help much otherwise |
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| _Pete_ | ok lets see |
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| rzs19 | qtcurve-trinity_3.5.13-0debian9+r1254372+pr2~squeeze_amd64.deb seems to be broken, only doc files inside this package! |
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| rzs19 | dpkg --contents ~/Downloads/qtcurve-trinity_3.5.13-0debian9+r1254372+pr2~squeeze_amd64.debdrwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2011-10-15 11:32 ./drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2011-10-15 11:32 ./usr/drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2011-10-15 11:32 ./usr/share/drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2011-10-15 11:32 ./usr/share/doc/drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2011-10-15 11:32 ./usr/share/doc/qtcurve-trinity/-rw-r--r-- root/root 2234 2011-10-15 04:26 ./usr/shar |
| rzs19 | log.Debian.gz-rw-r--r-- root/root 20822 2010-10-06 02:06 ./usr/share/doc/qtcurve-trinity/changelog.gz-rw-r--r-- root/root 1246 2011-08-21 04:48 ./usr/share/doc/qtcurve-trinity/copyright |
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| _Pete_ | hmm got it "resolved" |
| _Pete_ | hmm got it "resolved" |
| _Pete_ | oops |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| Z_God | I'm off here |
| _Pete_ | manually removed the divert |
| Z_God | will be on later in the eve |
| _Pete_ | the the files from /usr/bin considering that |
| _Pete_ | after that apt got thru |
| Z_God | can you put the instructions here? |
| Z_God | or maybe in a bug? |
| _Pete_ | I try to make bug |
| Z_God | bye guys! have to catch my lessons |
| Z_God | thanks! |
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| rzs19 | whats the difference between kde-style-qtcurve-trinity and qtcurve-trinity? |
| rzs19 | inside kde-style-qtcurve-trinity we got more than just the docs -> /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/qtcurve.so |
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| _Pete_ | argh, trinity is totally unstable on this |
| _Pete_ | starting from kdm-login screen which is totally screwed |
| _Pete_ | now when tried to restore to xubuntu session it seems to use trinity window manager or something wierd |
| rzs19 | _pete_ also a dualheadsetup? |
| _Pete_ | :) |
| _Pete_ | no |
| _Pete_ | just one monitor |
| rzs19 | a friend said that this happend alos in older kde 3.5.x versions |
| rzs19 | kdm and locking screen got thesame problems, looks strange, but works |
| _Pete_ | yes it worked |
| rzs19 | i something is wrong with the painting, maybe? your not the only one with this problem ;) |
| rzs19 | just write a bug report |
| rzs19 | or i will do, if i have a little more time |
| _Pete_ | then next big problem: on K menu there's System item |
| _Pete_ | when that's selected with mouse the whole barthing in bottom crashes |
| rzs19 | write a bugreport: http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/ |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 584 filed by petriai@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=584 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, K-Menu crashes when System item is tried to select. |
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| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 11 hours, 54 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> :) |
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| rzs19 | need coffee... tired... |
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| kion_ | hey guys, I'm having real troubles updating to 3.5.13... had a local diversion issue with ksmserver package and had to edit deb file (preinst script) to get it installed by dpkg... after that was able to install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity and kubuntu-desktop-trinity packages. yet there's still a problem: every time I try to start something from trinity distro, it gives me the following error: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdeui.so.4 |
| kion_ | : undefined symbol |
| kion_ | any ideas how to solve that? |
| kion_ | anyone else having that, actually? or is it me only? |
| kion_ | libkdeui.so.4 (libkdeui.so.4.2.0) resides in kdelibs4c2a-trinity, but it IS installed... I'm confused. |
| gcsimon | i'm not an expert on this, but can you run "ldd -r <filename>" vs. some application your are trying to run? |
| kion_ | yeah, it shows several undefined symbols |
| kion_ | but I mean... it's just a fresh installation - how could that be? and I have removed ALL kde* kubuntu* trinity* packages I had installed before. |
| kion_ | undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject21objectTreesListObjectEv (/opt/trinity/lib/libDCOP.so.4) |
| kion_ | undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv (/opt/trinity/lib/libDCOP.so.4) |
| kion_ | undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv (/opt/trinity/lib/libkdeui.so.4) |
| kion_ | undefined symbol: _ZNK7QObject18childrenListObjectEv (/opt/trinity/lib/libkdeui.so.4) |
| kion_ | undefined symbol: _ZNK7QObject18childrenListObjectEv (/opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4) |
| gcsimon | "QObject", sound like Qt issue |
| gcsimon | you could try and reinstall qt3... |
| gcsimon | but i'm pretty new to "apt" (or ubuntu for that matters), so i would not know how to do that |
| gcsimon | QObject is definitly part of Qt, so if he cannot find it - something is wrong with your Qt installation |
| kion_ | well sometimes guessing is the right thing :) |
| kion_ | I have just re-installed (some were not installed, actually) all libqt3-* libs and it seems to work fine now |
| kion_ | I wonder though why these libs were not caught by apt if they're required by trinity. |
| kion_ | anyway... thanks :) |
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| gcsimon | np |
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| MobileTurkey | wifi is so abysmal here... |
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| rzs19 | bye bye |
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| KingSphinx | How is it that I always seem to be away when there's a lot of stuff going on? Also, the whole "upgrade to avoid problems" thing? Only creates more trouble than it's actually worth. :/ |
| l0ner | as always |
| l0ner | uprade fixes old bugs and introduces new ones |
| l0ner | i's a rule |
| KingSphinx | By "more problems", I really mean "completely borked my system to where it fails to boot up completely" |
| l0ner | errr... what distro? |
| KingSphinx | Had to reinstall stock Ubuntu to get it to a usable state. |
| l0ner | ubuntu... this explains everyhing... |
| l0ner | i never had good experiences with ubuntu |
| KingSphinx | I tried upgrading Kubuntu Trinity 10.10 all the way to 11.10, but it broke trying to upgrade to 11.04 |
| l0ner | aw |
| l0ner | that must have hurt |
| KingSphinx | Not that big of a deal, just annoying is all. |
| l0ner | i noticed that recentely (from 9.10) distro upgrade is pretty broken in ubuntu |
| l0ner | i know |
| l0ner | i tried to update my firnds ubuntu (clean one) from 9.10 to 10.4... it broke |
| l0ner | *friends |
| l0ner | i convinced him to move to suse |
| KingSphinx | I've sometimes considered giving Debian a shot, but every live version I've tried seems to just want to pull packages from the internet instead of just installing the packages already there |
| KingSphinx | (that's a problem for me since my wireless card requires non-free firmware, and Debian doesn't like that) |
| l0ner | i'm getting feeling that debian don't like anything what doesn't fit with RMS philosophy.... |
| l0ner | free or GTFO |
| l0ner | and debian pull packages from net to have the latest versions of them |
| l0ner | i remember having debion on my laptop with closed source wireless drivers for my wifi though |
| l0ner | but i needed to use some external repos |
| l0ner | try searching round debian forums |
| l0ner | they have nice tutorials there |
| KingSphinx | It's relatively easy to get said firmware working under Ubuntu (install b43-fwcutter, extract firmware from file, then use fwcutter to install firmware) since Ubuntu installs a desktop out-of-box, but Debian's installer on a Debian Live system refuses to install Debian if you can't connect to the internet. |
| l0ner | can't you use cable connection for installation and then install b43? |
| l0ner | that's what i'd do |
| KingSphinx | I don't have an available ethernet connection (neighbor's wifi for internet access, he's okay with it) |
| l0ner | so it's an argh situation... |
| KingSphinx | The only distribution to work out-of-box with my wireless is Fedora, and it's only with Fedora 16 that the UUID will finally match everyone else's (1000:1000 vs. the old 500:500) |
| KingSphinx | 15 is still the newest version so far, so... yeah. |
| l0ner | never liked the UUID system |
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| tbottu | 10raron@vipmail.hu changed the Status on bug 579 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=579 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Amarok don't start, amarokapp: symbol lookup error |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 585 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=585 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Notification popups pop up in random locations |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 584 as a duplicate of bug 554. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=584 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, K-Menu crashes when System item is tried to select. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| l0ner | kb9vqf: Hi Tim! |
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| l0ner | kb9vqf: I might have a problem with you git repo |
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| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 18 hours, 30 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> :) |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: git is looking good so far! |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: I updated the meeting agenda with some things that I think are important |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: how did the dock(s) compiling go? |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: good work |
| KingSphinx | Well, I had fun figuring out that installing Kubuntu/Trinity 10.10, then trying to upgrade all the way to 11.10 is a very bad idea... |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I got side tracked, but on a positive note, I have working files for Trinity that have been tested by another person, and just got done building some other modules |
| l0ner | nice |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: looking at the notes now |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: it's much easier to do a commandline only install & then add Trinity |
| KingSphinx | Not exactly an option for me since I don't have any ethernet. |
| Z_God | ah yeah sorry, you told me |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: with the renaming, are you changing anything internally? |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: wifi? |
| KingSphinx | Wifi only, yeah. Neighbor's cool with it. :P |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: learn how to manually set it up! :D it's actually quite easy, though I havent seen a good guide around |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: maybe you should research setting up wifi without a GUI |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: what kind of protection does your WAP use? |
| MutantTurkey | iwconfig wlan0 essid "essid name" key "encryption key" channel X |
| MutantTurkey | sudo dhclient wlan0 |
| MutantTurkey | that's pretty much it on ubuntu |
| Z_God | that's WEP only though |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: good call |
| MutantTurkey | WPA2? |
| KingSphinx | None, though I don't have any control over that (though I did ask my neighbor before using it anyway) |
| l0ner | he mentioned something with b43 |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: then it's easy, almost MutantTurkey's instructions |
| MutantTurkey | b43 ahhh! actually my realtek isn't doing much better... |
| KingSphinx | Broadcom B4312 AirForce 54g, I believe |
| MutantTurkey | should have got the intel centrino wifi adapter instea.d |
| Z_God | it should all work, maybe you just need to fetch the deb containing the firmware manually |
| KingSphinx | Didn't know it was Broadcom until I actually tried using it in Linux... |
| Z_God | once you get wifi to work without a GUI, you already achieved quite a bit I think ;) |
| KingSphinx | Yeah, I have the proper firmware/.deb, I just need to remember the commands to set said stuff up |
| l0ner | i've been setting my wifi crom cli quite some time |
| l0ner | *from |
| l0ner | it's not that difficult anyway |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: you can also do it with /etc/network/interfaces |
| Z_God | read "man interfaces" for that |
| Z_God | it may be a bit easier |
| Z_God | and it will also work with WPA |
| Z_God | you can just comment those entries again when you want to use NetworkManager |
| Z_God | NetworkManager automatically ignores all interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces so it will never conflict either |
| MutantTurkey | I dont like network manager always :P, when it works though, it's great! |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: definitely some good points there on the etherpad |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: I hope I'll be able to make it |
| Z_God | otherwise I hope it'll be ok to discuss those things without me, I know very little about the technical aspects, but I think these things should at least be addressed in some way :) |
| Z_God | I will be able to give a better indication about whether I can be online when a specific time is clear |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | I'll send an email out later tonight about it |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| Z_God | it's midnight here, so I have to sleep now |
| Z_God | have a nice day all! |
| l0ner | g'night |
| rzs19 | ola |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 586 filed by waissi@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=586 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, 3.5.13 regression: kio-locate-trinity doesn't show any results in Konqueror |
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| rzs19 | gn8 |
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| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: So you've seen our cgit? |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| kb9vqf | darn, not here |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | regarding m23: cool! |
| kb9vqf | maybe if the smaller distros pick up TDE then the major ones will have to look at it eventually :) |
| kb9vqf | and our renaming project will help there as well by reducing the probability of us stomping on KDE4 libraries |
| kb9vqf | BTW here is the renaming status: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/17 |
| kb9vqf | the GIT repos are STILL FROZEN to everyone but me |
| kb9vqf | I intend to complete the renaming and get the build system back online from GIT before thawing the repos |
| kb9vqf | still have a few weeks to do it according to the roadmap :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 587 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=587 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tsak daemon fails on keyboard unplug |
| Xu_R | kb9vqf: samelian stopped by earlier |
| kb9vqf | and? |
| Xu_R | had new cmake files to commit |
| kb9vqf | ah |
| Xu_R | but didn't know where to >_> |
| kb9vqf | GIT is frozen for now |
| kb9vqf | in fact I made it public but the conversion is not yet 100% complete |
| Xu_R | I see you renamed much of it :P |
| kb9vqf | remember I allocated a month for SVN-->GIT conversion |
| kb9vqf | yes I did |
| Xu_R | :D |
| kb9vqf | this is a unique opportunity |
| kb9vqf | for us to dump quite a bit of the original kde* naming scheme |
| Xu_R | good time, then :P |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| kb9vqf | not done yet though |
| kb9vqf | and definitely not ready for all the devs to start hammering away at it :-P |
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| Xu_R | hehe |
| kb9vqf | you guys are supposed to be fixing bugs in the bugtracker with patches right now BTW ;-) |
| Xu_R | yes. there seems to be a few patches that have come to the ML as of late :) the 3.5.13 release had quite a bit of attention |
| kb9vqf | That's a Very Good Thing :)) |
| kb9vqf | other than that this was probably the worst release we've ever had... |
| kb9vqf | notice that the schedule for 3.5.14 is quite rigid |
| kb9vqf | I really hated the sloppiness of this relesae |
| kb9vqf | *release |
| Xu_R | yea |
| kb9vqf | we won't be doing THAT again :) |
| Xu_R | hehe |
| Xu_R | hopefully not |
| kb9vqf | BTW the Etherpad's getting some attention again |
| kb9vqf | I believe I fixed all the bugs |
| Xu_R | :D |
| kb9vqf | public pads, etc. |
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| Xu_R | that's good! |
| Xu_R | we have a collaboration endpoint again :D |
| kb9vqf | and I threw up some more pads to keep track of the rename and such |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | in fact, if you want to see something renamed in 3.5.14 throw it up on that pad |
| Xu_R | sure. but i need to focus on physics, math, programming, and packaging :P |
| kb9vqf | hehe |
| kb9vqf | I meant I'd approve or reject it, then handle the rename before the GIT goes live |
| kb9vqf | the ony rule is that no user-visible app (such as konsole or kpowersave) gets renamed now |
| kb9vqf | backend libs and apps are fair game |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | works for me |
| kb9vqf | if you see any more Etherpad problems just let me knwo |
| kb9vqf | *know |
| Xu_R | kk |
| kb9vqf | we are currently runnning the latest upstream GIT, as v1.1 has some serious issues |
| Xu_R | I saw you tagged git with versions :P |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | 3.5.13 is rather loose |
| kb9vqf | but it will help in seeing what has changed |
| Xu_R | hehe, you know, cgit went and generated zip and tarballs for all the tags XD |
| kb9vqf | (some stuff didn't some straight over from SVN correctly) |
| kb9vqf | yeah, I see that |
| kb9vqf | we use submodules heavily, so cgit won't give you everything in that tarball by any stretch of the imaginiation |
| kb9vqf | *imaginiation |
| kb9vqf | grr |
| Xu_R | yea, I figured |
| kb9vqf | imagination |
| kb9vqf | see, I can spell, just not t Y pe |
| Xu_R | ;) |
| kb9vqf | anyway, tell MutantTurkey I said hi |
| * kb9vqf needs to run again | |
| Xu_R | sure |
| Xu_R | ok, I'll see you around :) |
| Xu_R | (hopefully more often now :P) |
| kb9vqf | and for goodness sake START FIXING BUGS everyone! :)) |
| Xu_R | :) |
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| KingSphinx | After seeing how relatively rough 3.5.13 is, I'm a bit hesitant about reinstalling it on my Ubuntu partition. :/ |
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| edogaa | Hello |
| edogaa | I just reinstalled fedora (LE SHOCK) |
| edogaa | and backedu p my data since it was lazier and faster than repalcing root (had a few dvds around and his data was under 4 gigs) |
| edogaa | So, now I am usign 64 bit fedora but when I follow the instructions |
| edogaa | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f15/trinity-3.5.13/RPMS/noarch/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found : http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity/rpm/f15/trinity-3.5.13/RPMS/noarch/repodata/repomd.xml |
| edogaa | Trying other mirror. |
| edogaa | Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: trinity-3.5.13-f15-noarch. Please verify its path and try again |
| edogaa | ...whoops should've pastbinned that... |
| edogaa | Anyways...wtf ._. |
| edogaa | got it working...had to comment out some stuff in that repos thing :/ and then modify the noarch a little.. |
| edogaa | sorry if that was spammish and rantish lol |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 588 filed by petriai@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=588 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Torrent client Vuze doesn't start |
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| jiangyd | kdevdesigner: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkdevdesignerpart.so: undefined symbol: _ZN16QAssistantClientC1ERK7QStringP7QObjectPKc |
| edogaa | seey a |
| edogaa | gonna boot into kde3 now |
| edogaa | or rather TDE |
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| edogaa | Now, this feels like a real desktop |
| KingSphinx | You're using Fedora, right? |
| edogaa | Yes |
| KingSphinx | I'd have to wait until 16 hits before I could install it without issue :/ 16 will finally switch to the "standard" 1000:1000 UUID |
| jiangyd | does anyone use kdedevelop-trinity in squeeze? |
| KingSphinx | And unless there's going to be repos for Fedora 16 as well, there wouldn't really be any incentive for me to make the leap again. |
| KingSphinx | Oh, just out of curiosity: what's TDE for Fedora like? The "standard" experience or does it have stuff specific to Fedora like the Bluecurve theme? |
| edogaa | o dpm |
| edogaa | i don't know? |
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| KingSphinx | More importantly, is stuff like the KMenu bug present? (Kicker crashing if Settings or System is highlighted) |
| _Pete_ | regarding the issue |
| _Pete_ | is there some easy way to build specific packages if there's patches to bugs? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 589 filed by nosedapeter@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=589 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Error - 'package trinity-desktop not found' |
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| drvodka | hi, has anyone had success installing on squeeze/wheezy these last few days? I tried to do it yesterday or the day before, i put the deb lines in sources.list, but too many packages were missing |
| drvodka | i read the bugtracker at the time and it seemed like some other people had failed, but others had success |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 590 filed by gamiljydcome@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=590 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkdevdesignerpart.so: undefined symbol |
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| drvodka | oh well nevermind me, i spoke too soon, i just updated and now it seems those packages are there |
| drvodka | awesome |
| drvodka | i can't wait to get rid of kde4 ;) |
| edogaa | does trinity come with kdm? |
| edogaa | 0r something like a display manager? |
| drvodka | kdm-trinity is showing on my package list |
| edogaa | ah |
| edogaa | disabled artsd :D |
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| drvodka | hah, maybe with these new devs, even arts will work :D |
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| edogaa | Hmm, if it can be compatible with pulse sure |
| edogaa | otherwise it just be a bit bothersome, i don't think artsd is necessary? not sure |
| drvodka | i used to just kill the process, because it would interfere with my alsa programs |
| edogaa | hey |
| edogaa | how do I make kdm the default display manager? |
| drvodka | what distro? on debian/ubuntu it's probably update-alternatives |
| drvodka | oh just as you said that |
| drvodka | it's asking me during the install |
| drvodka | which display manager i want to use |
| drvodka | it offered kdm and kdm-trinity so i choose kdm-trinity |
| drvodka | ok, i'm installed, time to restart X and see what happens |
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| edogaa | see ya |
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| edogaa | gonna reboot and test |
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| drvodka | well, i got some errors, but i'm in kde3 now, thanks guys |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 575 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=575 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Official KDE request to rename kwin |
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| drvodka | yeah! i solved the couple of minor issues, and now trinity is running smoooth, i click the home icon, and unlike kde4, i'm instantly in the file browser, etc etc :D |
| drvodka | thanks for doing this port/fork whatever |
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| drvodka | hey edogaa, did it work ok? |
| edogaa | hey, skype, pulse and trinity seem not to be making sounds? o.O |
| edogaa | i think i'm not sure |
| edogaa | and yes it's working |
| edogaa | oddly enough one music player, and flash seem to make sound |
| drvodka | i got the kde startup sounds, and my sound in miro/chome/mplayer is fine, i don't use pulse at all though |
| edogaa | probably helps a lot :/ |
| edogaa | flash works... |
| edogaa | skype..wtf :/ |
| edogaa | nope not of the notifications work |
| drvodka | notifications for kde? |
| edogaa | yes |
| drvodka | do you use them? i think they are arts, so maybe that's what's clashed with your pulse/skype? |
| edogaa | >_< |
| drvodka | i just turned them all off and disabled kde sound system now |
| edogaa | I'll just remove pulse |
| edogaa | brb |
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| edogaa | hmm |
| edogaa | This is pretty nice...though i have no battery monitor... |
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| Fat-Zer | edogaa: so you won't worry about low battary charge... |
| edogaa | But then I'll worry about losing all my work! |
| edogaa | BECASE I FORGOT IT WASN'T CONNECTED |
| marek77 | you can try conky, it's pretty good. and it monitors more than just the battery :-) |
| Fat-Zer | *sarcasm* |
| edogaa | I just got batti |
| edogaa | from the repos. |
| edogaa | still, one thing I'm liking konsole... |
| edogaa | I Hated the kde4 konsole lol |
| Fat-Zer | edogaa: and kpowersame doesn't work |
| edogaa | there is a kpowerthingy? |
| Fat-Zer | *save |
| Fat-Zer | for me it's in kpowersave package |
| Fat-Zer | but AFAIK it still uses hal |
| edogaa | ah |
| Fat-Zer | edogaa: sorry it's not actually part of trinity... i currently running 3.5.10. and haven't tried it with it |
| Fat-Zer | *it=trinity |
| edogaa | Hmm? |
| Fat-Zer | here is it's homepage: http://powersave.sf.net/ |
| edogaa | jesus |
| edogaa | 2007 |
| Fat-Zer | ? |
| Fat-Zer | 2007 was a good year |
| marek77 | what does it matter? it is commonly believed that christian calendar is not correct anyway ;-) |
| edogaa | meh, i shouldn't be too surprised...consider kde3 hasn't been maintained since 2008 or so |
| edogaa | at least till trinity came in lol |
| marek77 | k3b... |
| marek77 | [marek@centos6 ~]$ k3b |
| marek77 | KCrash: crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2 |
| marek77 | KCrash: Application Name = k3b path = <unknown> pid = 7607 |
| marek77 | lol |
| marek77 | that's k3b from kde4 |
| marek77 | oops looks like it's trinity that broke kde4 ;-) |
| Strangelv | We do need to make suer that we're not going to break owhatever other environments or window managers the user might have |
| marek77 | logged out of trinity > login kde4 > k3b > crash > backtrace: |
| marek77 | [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] |
| marek77 | [KCrash handler] |
| marek77 | #6 0x051fe4d1 in QGList::append(void*) () |
| marek77 | from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| marek77 | #7 0x00fbc3ec in KUniqueApplication::delayRequest(QCString const&, QMemArray<char> const&) () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| marek77 | #8 0x00fbc4d5 in KUniqueApplication::process(QCString const&, QMemArray<char> const&, QCString&, QMemArray<char>&) () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
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| marek77 | looks like qt3-3 that came with trinity... |
| marek77 | [marek@centos6 ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| marek77 | qt3-3.3.8d-2.el6.i686 |
| marek77 | [marek@centos6 ~]$ rpm -qi qt3-3.3.8d-2.el6.i686 |
| marek77 | Name : qt3 Relocations: (not relocatable) |
| marek77 | Version : 3.3.8d Vendor: (none) |
| marek77 | Release : 2.el6 Build Date: Sat 05 Nov 2011 12:10:29 AM CET |
| marek77 | Install Date: Mon 07 Nov 2011 05:45:50 PM CET Build Host: centos6-x86.kvm |
| marek77 | Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM: qt3-3.3.8d-2.el6.src.rpm |
| marek77 | Size : 10753876 License: QPL or GPLv2 or GPLv3 |
| marek77 | Signature : (none) |
| marek77 | URL : http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ |
| marek77 | Summary : The shared library for the Qt 3 GUI toolkit |
| marek77 | Description : |
| marek77 | Qt is a GUI software toolkit which simplifies the task of writing and |
| marek77 | maintaining GUI (Graphical User Interface) applications |
| marek77 | for the X Window System. |
| marek77 | Qt is written in C++ and is fully object-oriented. |
| marek77 | This package contains the shared library needed to run Qt 3 |
| marek77 | applications, as well as the README files for Qt 3. |
| edogaa | hmm |
| marek77 | k3b crashes like this every time.... |
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| rzs19 | hello |
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| marek77 | hi |
| marek77 | does someone know how to migrate $HOME/.kde from KDE 3.5 to Trinity? |
| marek77 | can it be done? |
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| Space_Man | marek77: that is an interesting question |
| Space_Man | maybe rename .kde and log out / in |
| Fleck | first logout |
| Fleck | then rename |
| marek77 | trying right now |
| rzs19 | you could try to rename it to .trinity but no idea if this is enough? "mv ~/.trinity ~/.trinity.bak; cp -a ~/.kde ~/.trinity" |
| Fleck | make backup :) |
| marek77 | ha! trinity managed to start |
| rzs19 | atm it _should_ work without problems, but what is in the future, if we have to rename all application from k{applicationname} to *wathever* |
| marek77 | why would that be? |
| rzs19 | like kwin... |
| rzs19 | if i read corectly, there is a bug report. |
| rzs19 | some kde devs don't want that trinity use the same application name, like the kwin maintainer. |
| marek77 | hmm. a migration tool ? something with a lot of renaming commands inside (sed? ;-) ) |
| marek77 | OTOH, KDE is OSS, and Trinity is a fork, so naming should not be an issue? |
| rzs19 | http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=575 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 575: major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Official KDE request to rename kwin |
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| marek77 | what I'm interested is to migrate my machine from CentOS5 to CentOS6, but don't want KDE4, so I'm looking at Trinity to keep my "KDE3 desktop like" with all the settings, icon bars etc.. |
| marek77 | since RedHat decided to upgrade to KDE4 in RHEL6, I'm stuck with CentOS5.x |
| rzs19 | the problem is, there is a window manager with the name twin |
| rzs19 | yeah naming shoulkdnt be a problem, but you see, it is ... :( |
| rzs19 | there are tons of application and how would they be called? questions over questions |
| rzs19 | _K_onqueror, amaro_k_, _K_onsole ... |
| marek77 | well, let's say the binary will be renamed to tWhatever, nothing imposes also rename of config files in ~/.trinity does it? |
| marek77 | the "K" naming is a bit silly, imho ;-) |
| rzs19 | yep they need to finde some new cool names. |
| l0ner | well, ranaming will take some time |
| l0ner | *renaming |
| rzs19 | yep it would, renaming the python bindings, could break many scripts |
| rzs19 | renaming could make some troubles... |
| l0ner | but at some point it will be necessary, since trinity apps aren't the same apps KDE4 have, and yet, they have the same name |
| l0ner | Kmail from trinity isn't Kmail from KDE4 |
| l0ner | 2 apps with same name, it will create confusion at some point |
| marek77 | isn't versioning enough? Firefox 3.6 is not the same app as Firefox 7.0 |
| l0ner | yes, thats true |
| l0ner | but it is still forefox |
| l0ner | *firefox |
| marek77 | one can argue that Trinity is KDE3.5 (++) |
| marek77 | which has the same name as KDE(4) |
| marek77 | in the beginning of KDE4 one could have both installed side by side even |
| l0ner | that's true too |
| l0ner | but in this case the version number is part of the name |
| marek77 | it wasn't for kwin, konsole, ... |
| l0ner | when it isn't you'll get in the repo two apps with the same name and different versions, and normal user will probably choose the one with higher version, because it's newer |
| marek77 | true |
| l0ner | that's why some things should be renamed |
| l0ner | even adding -trinity after name would work |
| marek77 | with lots of strange and surely annoying side effects... :-( |
| l0ner | but those can be removed with time |
| l0ner | I look at current trinity as some beta-version |
| l0ner | there are many things that should work, worked in the past, but with time broke |
| l0ner | and should be fixed |
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| thistle_ | I installed trinity 3.5.13 from the ubuntu repos on my 11.10 install |
| thistle_ | every time I mouse over the settings or system menu item, the kde panel dies |
| thistle_ | there is no crash info that I can fine with a quick look |
| KingSphinx | Start Kicker from terminal, then recreate the crash; should give you info on what caused it |
| thistle_ | All of the other menu items open, no problem |
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| thistle_ | kicker: art_render_gradient.c:337: art_render_gradient_linear_render_8: Assertion `(stops[ix-1].offset <= offset_fraction + 1e-6) || ((stops[ix].offset > (1.0 - 1e-6)) && (offset_fraction < 1e-6 ))' failed. |
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| l0ner | there was bug about this filled some time ago |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: hey |
| MobileTurkey | still having trouble with qt3? |
| l0ner | hey |
| Space_Man | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554 "art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash" |
| tbottu | 04Bug 554: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | i sent mail to maillist |
| MobileTurkey | do you have a log? also why not use the PKGBUILD? |
| l0ner | well I wanted to do it manually |
| l0ner | but I'm beginning to think about it |
| MobileTurkey | pkgbuilds are your friend |
| MobileTurkey | you are still compiling it, it justtakes out the hassle. |
| MobileTurkey | trust me :P |
| MobileTurkey | trying to get the trinity wiki page on archinux.org fixed up |
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| l0ner | well the page was pretty confusional |
| MobileTurkey | it was ridiculous |
| MobileTurkey | to much crap |
| l0ner | anyway I'm compiling qt3 right now, If I get the same error i'll use pkgbuild |
| l0ner | yeah, I read it like 3 times and still was like wtf!? |
| MobileTurkey | wtf wtf wtf |
| MobileTurkey | David wrote it like a logbook, a documentary, rather than a wiki page |
| l0ner | trinity wiki page on building it manually misses some things too |
| MobileTurkey | I am just going with PKGBUILDS now. |
| MobileTurkey | I need to get binaryhosting space for the packages |
| MobileTurkey | and Kaitocracy won't email me back and I've had no reply from david |
| l0ner | can't you use tde-packaging in git for packages? |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| MobileTurkey | I need to upload it asap |
| MobileTurkey | though I made a seperate folder for the release. |
| MobileTurkey | for 3.5.13 |
| MobileTurkey | then the master/ will be renamed to git once we get git packages |
| MobileTurkey | make sense? |
| MobileTurkey | kb9vqf: ping |
| l0ner | yes |
| MobileTurkey | also right now I am pulling entirely from uidaho |
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| rzs19 | cu later |
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| thistle_ | thanks. The patched libart works |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 591 filed by inukaze.otaku@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=591 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kicker fails |
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| samelian | kb9vqf: hello |
| kb9vqf | Hi! |
| kb9vqf | Long time no see... :) |
| samelian | hehe, busy |
| samelian | i need commit rights to git repo |
| samelian | I sent you my ssh public key |
| Z_God | was this already posted here? http://dot.kde.org/2011/11/08/trinity-project-keeping-35-alive |
| samelian | Z_God: yes, it was |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | samelian: The GIT repostory is not yet open for business |
| samelian | aha |
| kb9vqf | also, I don't allow SSH access to any of my machines for a variety of reasons ;-) |
| kb9vqf | this was reinforced by the recent kernel.org hacking problem |
| samelian | but how we will have access to git? |
| kb9vqf | HTTP auth |
| samelian | aha, ok |
| samelian | svn will not be used for development, right? |
| kb9vqf | correct |
| samelian | i saw that is frozen |
| kb9vqf | yes |
| Z_God | wouldn't it be possible to have a bridge between git & svn? |
| kb9vqf | git svn |
| Z_God | so that patches going into git are also applied to the svn tree |
| kb9vqf | it's not quite that easy... |
| Z_God | ok |
| samelian | ok, at this moment I want to continue cmake port, but I need access to repos |
| kb9vqf | when we moved to GIT I "exploded" the tree into small repositories, one for each library and application |
| Z_God | it was cool to have you in KDE's SVN stats though ;) |
| samelian | to upate my local sources |
| kb9vqf | ah, ok |
| samelian | update* |
| kb9vqf | let them stabilize a bit first, otherwise we'll have one nasty merge :-/ |
| kb9vqf | I'm still in there checking everything out and fixing problems in rather large batches |
| samelian | aha |
| kb9vqf | *migration problems, NOT bugs :)) |
| samelian | I will try to update my sources from latest tarballs |
| kb9vqf | you'll stil run into merge problems |
| kb9vqf | folders were renamed, etc. |
| Z_God | it seems there are some problems with the 3.5.13 packages for lucid actually |
| kb9vqf | there is anonymous GIT access if you really want to proceed knowing you may have merge problems |
| Z_God | some people were asked for the older PPAs so they could get things running |
| Z_God | asking* |
| kb9vqf | I did keep the old 3.5.12 PPA |
| Z_God | unfortunately, I have a bandwidth cap, so I can't easily download everything to test it |
| kb9vqf | just remove the -v3.5.13 from the sources.list files |
| samelian | kb9vqf: anonymous should be enough for now |
| samelian | you can tell how to access it? |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: Please encourage them to file bug reports |
| kb9vqf | we want to fix the problems for 3.5.14 |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: I did! |
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| kb9vqf | ok :) |
| Z_God | and there have been quite a few reports |
| * kb9vqf noticed that | |
| kb9vqf | that's a good thing |
| Z_God | some people couldn't even get a basic desktop working without crashes |
| kb9vqf | I don't understand that personally |
| Z_God | somehow there were symbol errors |
| kb9vqf | sounds like mixed 3.5.12 and 3.5.13 packages |
| kb9vqf | samelian: git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde |
| kb9vqf | git submodule init |
| samelian | thx |
| kb9vqf | git submodule update |
| kb9vqf | that will give you *everything* |
| Z_God | that's still a bug though |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: A packaging bug |
| Z_God | yep |
| kb9vqf | samelian: http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/ will show you all the repositories |
| kb9vqf | you don't have to pull everything if you don't want to |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: is it normal that command "git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tqtinterface" don't pulls content of subdirs? |
| samelian | I will need them anyway |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: This is GIT's weakest point |
| kb9vqf | git submodule init |
| kb9vqf | git submodule update |
| kb9vqf | that will give you everything |
| l0ner | yep, worked |
| kb9vqf | newer versions of GIT try to pull submodules automatically |
| l0ner | it asks me for pass |
| l0ner | but it works of o leave it empty |
| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | there is a LOT of automation on this end to work around this very weak part of GIT |
| kb9vqf | samelian: I recommend going to your main tde checkout directory (where you pulled http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde) and running ./scripts/switch_all_submodules_to_head_and_clean |
| kb9vqf | actually, anyone who tries to pull the entire repository should do that |
| samelian | ok |
| kb9vqf | that will clear any username/password errors and populate all submodules |
| kb9vqf | SVN was much, much better here |
| kb9vqf | but GIT has its own advantages I guess |
| l0ner | well, up till now i used only svn |
| samelian | I was very happy with svn :) |
| kb9vqf | as was I |
| l0ner | so, why move to git? |
| kb9vqf | popular demand |
| kb9vqf | SVn is perceived as outdated, etc. |
| kb9vqf | KDE itself is trying to shut down their SVN server |
| samelian | is not trendy anymore :) |
| kb9vqf | and my biggest complaint: SVN is SLOOOWWWW |
| l0ner | well... so it is kde3.5/trinity for kde4 devs and fanboys |
| Z_God | git has many advantages over svn it seems |
| kb9vqf | yes it does |
| Z_God | so I understand people moving |
| kb9vqf | it just falls down completely with submodules (SVN externals) |
| Z_God | but git is mainly useful when you want to branch a lot |
| Z_God | if you have only a single branch that everybody works on, svn is fine |
| l0ner | well... I think trin wiki needs some updating |
| l0ner | in that field |
| kb9vqf | yes it does :) |
| kb9vqf | The move is not complete |
| kb9vqf | you guys are accessing alpha quality stuff with no docs at this point |
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| kb9vqf | Z_God: The biggest advantage of GIT for me is that it doesn't tie up my connection constantly for basic commits |
| l0ner | oh, and I wrote mail about my problems with qt3 compilation if you hadn't noticed |
| kb9vqf | SVn is quite bandwidth heavy, and a single glitch can cause a MESS |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: I didn't know about this :) |
| kb9vqf | Well, I noticed it more near the end |
| kb9vqf | svn mv wasn't working |
| kb9vqf | I had to try and try to get even one mv command to commit correctly |
| kb9vqf | once you hit a magic number of files things start timing out |
| Z_God | sounds like a crappy link as well |
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| kb9vqf | not on my end |
| Z_God | but I mainly used subversion locally |
| l0ner | oh, I remember trying to pull trinity form svn somthing like 40 times becaus it was giving me some errors on every attempt ... |
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| kb9vqf | right |
| kb9vqf | KDE had a garbage link/server |
| Z_God | that's probably not smth git would have solved then... |
| kb9vqf | SVN is just not designed for a project of this size |
| kb9vqf | don't get me started on the SVN merge problems |
| kb9vqf | we didn't see them because we had two committers |
| kb9vqf | if I would have added more...well... |
| * kb9vqf shudders | |
| kb9vqf | I like the distributed aspect of GIT |
| * kb9vqf hates single points of failure | |
| Z_God | I never had big merge issues with svn |
| Z_God | but you need to do up first then ci |
| Z_God | otherwise it does tend to break |
| kb9vqf | right |
| Z_God | but I think GIT is much better with this |
| kb9vqf | and if the up breaks your local copy for any reason...*poof* |
| Z_God | I guess it just uses patch for this |
| kb9vqf | there goes all your work |
| samelian | kb9vqf: so, what's next? :) |
| Z_God | that's scary I never saw that |
| samelian | I mean, roadmap |
| Z_God | svn would create backups for me then |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: Not for me--odd |
| kb9vqf | oh well |
| kb9vqf | samelian: Meeting Nov. 15 AFAIK |
| kb9vqf | Bug fixing is top priority as usual |
| samelian | aha |
| kb9vqf | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/15 |
| samelian | hmm, I think I have no more access to etherpad |
| kb9vqf | samelian: Request an account |
| samelian | ok |
| kb9vqf | I'll approve it right now :) |
| samelian | kb9vqf: i did |
| kb9vqf | approved |
| samelian | kb9vqf: i'm in, thx |
| kb9vqf | np |
| l0ner | i just compiled qt3 and now I'm trying to compile tqtinterface, but cmake complains about missing moc |
| l0ner | damn |
| kb9vqf | cmake needs to have the Qt3 directory passed to it as a -D flag |
| kb9vqf | it's not as "smart" as Autotools was |
| samelian | or QTDIR environment variable |
| samelian | I preffer to not be too agressive to detect things |
| l0ner | -DQTDIR=/opt/qt3 -DQT_PREFIX_DIR=/opt/qt3 |
| kb9vqf | which is fine, that's why I put "smart" in quotes ;-) |
| samelian | hehe |
| kb9vqf | Does moc need to be on the $PATH? |
| samelian | latest patches to cmake was a little to agressive for my taste |
| l0ner | still complains |
| kb9vqf | samelian: My patches? |
| samelian | I think by another one |
| kb9vqf | oh, ok |
| kb9vqf | It might be a good idea to set CMake policy on the Etherpad |
| samelian | yes |
| kb9vqf | we can work on it before the meeting and approve/reject it |
| samelian | when I'm developing e cmake test I assume that the system is pretty standard and sane |
| samelian | for non-standard systems packagers have variables, to point correct paths |
| kb9vqf | Well, start a pad and put down your CMake philosophy :) |
| samelian | ok :) |
| kb9vqf | we can comment on it |
| kb9vqf | etc. |
| l0ner | anyway what I do and what cmake throws at me: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/504760/ |
| samelian | l0ner: you really have moc in /opt/qt3/bin? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | wait I'll check $PATH |
| samelian | cmake using absolute paths, I guess |
| samelian | l0ner: show me your FindTQt.cmake |
| l0ner | $PATH if fine |
| l0ner | samelian: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/504764/ |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: were you able to read the german article about trinity at some point? |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: You are Julius, right? |
| Z_God | yep |
| kb9vqf | yes I did |
| kb9vqf | real nasty |
| kb9vqf | I put several paragraphs on our meeting etherpad as a result :-P |
| l0ner | why? |
| Z_God | it seems good that people are taking a look at the project like that though |
| Z_God | and the code |
| samelian | l0ner: please show me ConfigureChecks.cmake of tqtinterface |
| kb9vqf | good? |
| l0ner | now |
| Z_God | I'm sure that such things can either be solved with a fix or a good motivation |
| Z_God | fixed* |
| kb9vqf | What I saw was a bunch of attacks on the fact that Trinity doesn't have a fancy graphical effects stack :-/ |
| samelian | haha |
| Z_God | yes, the biggest part of the article is silly |
| Z_God | but there are some valid remarks in there |
| kb9vqf | what he doesn't get is that we don't WANT a stack like that :) |
| l0ner | samelian: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/504767/ |
| samelian | yes, actually this is ideea of trinity |
| kb9vqf | which remarks? About binary compatibility? |
| Z_God | yes |
| kb9vqf | to me that's a versioning nit |
| kb9vqf | Firefox breaks comatibility with each new release |
| Z_God | but it prevents people from adopting now |
| kb9vqf | what he is taking issue with is our version numbering system |
| Z_God | and this is something that people expect |
| kb9vqf | and I agree that it is time to change our versioning system |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: could you give me etherpad access? I'd like to read this... |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: It should be public :-/ |
| Z_God | if you do not keep binary compatibility, it's fine with me, but I think it's important that you have good reasons to break it |
| Z_God | and those things should be explained on the trinity site as well |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/15 |
| samelian | l0ner: for unknown reason, your cmake checks try to find moc-qt3, instead moc |
| samelian | try to replace moc-qt3 with moc |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: If we keep binary compatibility we will not be able to decouple from KDE 3.5.10 and Qt 3.3.8b |
| kb9vqf | and the project WILL die as a result |
| Z_God | ok, that seems a valid reason |
| kb9vqf | Unfortunately the needed changes are extensive and could easily take a few years to complete (!) |
| Z_God | but I can understand it that people were expecting a binary compatible version |
| l0ner | samelian: how? in ConfigureChecks.cmake? |
| kb9vqf | so I took the lesser of two evils and have been releasing binary incomatible versions |
| samelian | l0ner: yes |
| kb9vqf | basically each new release has more of the conversion done |
| Z_God | and I understand that Ilya is not so quick in switching, because it means loads of recompiling for him then |
| samelian | actually who cares about binary compatibility? |
| samelian | and for what reason? |
| Z_God | distros care |
| kb9vqf | for ease in packaging |
| Z_God | at least non-source based distros |
| kb9vqf | I can see their point of view |
| samelian | just recompile it and that's all |
| kb9vqf | that has been my approach :) |
| kb9vqf | distros don't like to do that though |
| Z_God | but I think it's important this is in the release notes at least |
| kb9vqf | that binary compatibility is broken? |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | sounds reasonabe |
| kb9vqf | *reasonable |
| Z_God | that binary compatibility is broken to move away from Qt3 |
| kb9vqf | well, to move away from the old versions of Qt3 at any rate |
| Z_God | and how people are expected to deal with each trinity release |
| kb9vqf | I have problems with not being allowed to break binary compat for a few reasons |
| Z_God | in debian's case, every new package version that is binary incompatible get an increased integer added to the package *name* |
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| kb9vqf | Primary is that it completely ties my hands as far as adding new libraries to do things |
| lnr | samelian: no change |
| kb9vqf | which means that Trinity would not be able to stay up to date with new technologies |
| kb9vqf | as an example, if I had to keep binary compat 3.5.13 would not have the monitor and display tool |
| samelian | lnr: same error? show me cmakechecks again |
| lnr | same |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: why couldn't that be done? |
| kb9vqf | Because I had to change the underlying libkrandr library API |
| kb9vqf | to add the new features |
| Z_God | I don't get this example, because I don't think it requires changes the existing ABI of kdelibs |
| lnr | samelian: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/504769 |
| Z_God | but you could add features without changing the existing ABI |
| kb9vqf | changes to APIs propagate to ABIs |
| kb9vqf | AFAIK |
| Z_God | only adding new ones |
| kb9vqf | actually if constructors are changed the ABI breaks |
| kb9vqf | or data members |
| Z_God | sure |
| Z_God | but you could leave the existing constructors intact |
| kb9vqf | well, data members were changed and added to track the monitor configuration objects |
| Z_God | and only add new ones for the new features |
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| Z_God | this is what everybody else does at least |
| kb9vqf | that leads to unmaintainable code very quickly |
| Z_God | ok |
| kb9vqf | hacks on top of hacks on top of nasty hacks |
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| kb9vqf | I've had to rewrite code from KDE3.5.10 that was written that way |
| kb9vqf | and now I know why |
| Z_God | maybe this is the reason why trinity could be handled till now with relatively few devs |
| Z_God | but it is a big shift for the code |
| kb9vqf | it also explains KDE4's bugginess |
| Z_God | so we should write these things down |
| Z_God | right now, it confuses people |
| kb9vqf | yes, probably |
| kb9vqf | do you mind starting a new pad? |
| kb9vqf | I'm still pretty busy ATM |
| Z_God | not really |
| Z_God | also busy, but I will do my best |
| kb9vqf | ok, thanks :) |
| kb9vqf | My mentality is that I refuse to sacrifice functionality, code readability, and introduce bugs just to keep ABI compatibility with something that was probably broken to begin with (hence the need for the ABI change) |
| kb9vqf | if we need to release as 3.6, 3.7, 3.8 etc then we shall do so |
| samelian | l0ner: try -DMOC_EXECUTABLE=/opt/qt3/bin/moc |
| l0ner | ok |
| samelian | is not ideal, but should work |
| kb9vqf | and this ABI compat requirement probably explains why large projects tend to crash a LOT |
| l0ner | worked |
| samelian | ok |
| samelian | I think cmake files was changed in my absence :) |
| samelian | I will review it |
| kb9vqf | samelian: Feel free to weigh in on the ABI compat pad when it is up :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 592 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=592 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Menu panels may be too small to display all desktop entries |
| l0ner | samelian: ok, have fun |
| samelian | kb9vqf: I don't care about binary compatibility, I suggest you to not waste too much time with it |
| kb9vqf | that is my thought as well |
| kb9vqf | but this particular issue will keep nipping at our heels until it is addressed |
| samelian | I can't see any sense to update trinity, but using old applications |
| l0ner | GL/gl.h is part of? |
| samelian | opengl, i guess |
| samelian | or I did not undestood your question :) |
| l0ner | since make complains about it missing, I'm trying to figure out what deps I am missing |
| samelian | aha, i see |
| samelian | for gl install opengl development files |
| samelian | I think is mesa, actually, not sure |
| l0ner | from what I understood arch autoinstalls them |
| l0ner | well, theoretically i have mesa installed |
| l0ner | i'll try to reinstall and see what happens |
| samelian | including dev files? |
| l0ner | should be |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: :) |
| samelian | in my system is /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/include/gl.h |
| kb9vqf | Hey, it's a collaborative tool, right? ;-) |
| kb9vqf | we can have an entire argument on there |
| l0ner | since in arch -dev packages don't exist, I assume they are included in std packages |
| Z_God | maybe we should also mention the GPL and only caring about FREE software :) |
| kb9vqf | yeah |
| Z_God | I think the FSF could appreciate that |
| samelian | actually why we care about opinions of people who don't use trinity? :) |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: I don't think you need to create a completely new library |
| Z_God | libc also supports multiple ABIs within one lib |
| kb9vqf | If I'm not allowed to change the constructors or data members what choice do I really have? |
| Z_God | add new constructors |
| samelian | will become a really mess |
| Z_God | having multiple constructors for one object is possible right? |
| Z_God | true |
| kb9vqf | but adding a constructor breaks ABI compat |
| Z_God | but I'm just responding on the multiple libs things, it seems a but crazy |
| Z_God | really? |
| kb9vqf | AFAIK |
| kb9vqf | constructors and destructors are special |
| kb9vqf | something about vtable entries |
| Z_God | that would be crazy |
| samelian | even adding a simple method break abi |
| samelian | the size of object is changing, I guess |
| kb9vqf | yes, and the vtable is chifting |
| kb9vqf | *shifting |
| kb9vqf | constructors and desructors are at the beginning of the table |
| kb9vqf | so they can shift the entire table |
| kb9vqf | it becomes a big problem if classes inherit from the base class that has been changed |
| samelian | the app wil crash even if half of table is shifted |
| kb9vqf | sometimes |
| kb9vqf | only on access to the shifted half |
| samelian | yes |
| Z_God | seems C++ is indeed quite weak for binary compatibility |
| samelian | but an unused method is useless, right? :) |
| kb9vqf | data members are located at the end of the table, so typically that is where the crash happens |
| * Xu_R wishes he could punch Ilya for his reply right now | |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: I found arts inside tdemultimedia, what is it? |
| * Xu_R notes that that was random, but I needed to vent. >_> | |
| Z_God | Xu_R: I think it would be good to involve Ilya in this discussion |
| kb9vqf | now we do need to be careful, as most of these bugs are only present when inheritance is used |
| samelian | arts is sound server of kde |
| samelian | arts must die :) |
| l0ner | i know what is arts |
| l0ner | samelian: i want to be the one who kills it |
| samelian | hehe |
| l0ner | i wonder what arts does in tdemultimedia |
| samelian | maybe is a plugin for something, who knows... |
| Z_God | ok, now my turn: What's wrong with aRts? :) |
| l0ner | I'd like to see trinity dropping arts for something more modern... maybe pulse? but It will take some time |
| l0ner | it's old |
| Z_God | there's a lot of stuff that's old ;) |
| Z_God | l0ner: pulse does less than arts |
| samelian | in my opinion, tde should use directly ALSA |
| Xu_R | Z_God: he's already on the mindset that he does not want to abandon KDE3 for trinity |
| samelian | i never used arts for other task than sound notifications |
| Z_God | ALSA cannot handle all the formats that aRts can handle |
| l0ner | nah, you need to use some soundmixer, otherwise you'll end like me, it is ot amarok playing sound, or audacity playing it |
| Xu_R | which is why he is not packaging or anything. He even is trying to convince factory developers to maintain GNOME2 (?!?!) |
| Z_God | l0ner: that part ALSA can do |
| l0ner | alsamixer |
| l0ner | wich is a soundmixer itself |
| Xu_R | on his thought that the number of packages determine quality (...) |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: Trinity can use pulse |
| samelian | is not task of kde to play different formats |
| Xu_R | anyway, I'll stop on that. |
| kb9vqf | arts is sort of a basic audio layer that can interface to multiple backends |
| kb9vqf | you don't NEED to use it if you don't want to |
| Z_God | Xu_R: we've been discussing the binary compatibility thing here, this makes it hard for people like Ilya to switch to trinity |
| Z_God | suse likely has multiple compontents that are intertwined deeply with KDE 3.5 |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: i know, but not in the way i have in mind, right now arts mixes whatever it gets from trinity and send it to puls wich mixes other things |
| Xu_R | Z_God: actually, no. if we made YaST2-Qt3 backend use TQT, that would be it. |
| Xu_R | Z_God: it's all a matter of recompilation in the end. |
| Z_God | samelian: even the sound effects included have different formats, something needs to handle that |
| Z_God | Xu_R: true, but Ilya doesn't feel like doing that ;) |
| Xu_R | which is why I have to handle it >_> |
| Z_God | sure but it's quite a bit of work obviously |
| l0ner | wait, so arts is not only the audio mixer, but it's audiomixer and sound play system? |
| samelian | Z_God: this is not the problem of application which need to play something? |
| Z_God | it's your choice to go for that & his to go the easy route, which imo is unstandable |
| Z_God | samelian: no, this is the problem that aRts was solving for all the apps |
| Z_God | they can just throw sounds files at arts and let arts play them |
| l0ner | so arts is a decoder too |
| Z_God | whatever the format |
| l0ner | something like gstreamer? |
| Z_God | l0ner: arts depends on the normal decoding libs for that |
| Z_God | l0ner: kinda |
| l0ner | hmmm... |
| l0ner | add to arts (modern) features that pulse have |
| l0ner | like volume control for each app and so on... |
| Z_God | it seems better to replace arts at some point |
| l0ner | and trinity won't have nedd to use pulse |
| Z_God | but it is not that easy |
| samelian | arts is not anymore updated, for long time |
| samelian | was abandoned by author because became a mess |
| l0ner | since replacing arts would mean creating new soundmixer and new decoding framework |
| l0ner | even kde4 uses something else now... |
| l0ner | since it is a mess and was abandoned even by author, replacing it at some point will be necessary |
| kb9vqf | l0ner: If you disable the sound system entirely I believe individual Trinity apps will talk to ALSA/Pulse directly |
| kb9vqf | though I have never tried it :) |
| samelian | nope, if you disable arts, you will loosing audio notifications |
| kb9vqf | Pulse still causes a lot of problems on my systems |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| samelian | I think we need to build a new notification system |
| kb9vqf | Well, that's kind of low priority ATM |
| l0ner | i thought about it too |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: OK, my arguments are on the Etherpad |
| kb9vqf | feel free to pick them apart |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: great :) |
| l0ner | imho priority right now should be getting to work things taht are not working |
| l0ner | replacing hal and so on |
| l0ner | after that you can begin to think about modernizations |
| l0ner | i might have some ideas for trinity, but they are only ideas |
| kb9vqf | ideas are great! |
| kb9vqf | they go in the bug tracker as wishlist items :) |
| Z_God | hal works for me ;) |
| l0ner | but not for me, hal is obsolete, distros dropped it, and it should be replaced |
| Z_God | Alexander Julliard from Wine was also complaining when distros were suddenly dropping hal btw |
| l0ner | i had problems getting trinity to work on gentoo because of hal |
| Z_God | because it didn't make sense to replace it again with udisks or smth like that |
| l0ner | well, hal was working, but had issues |
| kb9vqf | HAL would have been replaced a long time ago if there was a clear, fully functioning, stable replacement |
| kb9vqf | As it stands now Trinity has to absorb a good chunk of the old HAL functionality, which will take a while |
| l0ner | I know, You've explained it to me some time ago |
| kb9vqf | (NOT the HAL code, just its functionality) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| * kb9vqf can never keep people straight :) | |
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| l0ner | :) |
| l0ner | there are many things to be done in trinity it seems |
| l0ner | while kde3.5 wasn't maintained many things broke |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | Linux is changing too fast right now... :)( |
| kb9vqf | Z_God: I added a section on vtables |
| kb9vqf | so maybe the problem is clearer now |
| Z_God | kb9vqf: thanks, I'll read it a bit later |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | like I said, feel free to blast holes in my comments :) |
| Z_God | I guess I can't, but maybe other people will ;) |
| Z_God | anyhow it's good also these issues are addressed now when there'll be another release :) |
| l0ner | arts cmake complaining: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/504810/ |
| samelian | l0ner: seems that libltdl directory was moved or removed |
| l0ner | i commented out line about libltdl and cmake shut up |
| l0ner | but i got this while compiling: don't know if it's related: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/504813/ |
| l0ner | samelian: about libltdl: "A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU libtool" - take out from my package manager |
| samelian | yes, it is related |
| samelian | libltdl was part of trinity |
| samelian | not sure why missing now |
| l0ner | it's not present in git tree, nor it svn |
| l0ner | *in |
| samelian | it is present in my local tree |
| samelian | ask Tim why it was removed |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: ping |
| l0ner | kb9vqf: libltdl directory not present in arts (git), needed for compiling |
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| rzs19 | ola |
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| rzs19 | hi MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | hey :D |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 593 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=593 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [kscreensaver-xsavers-extra-trinity] conflicts with electricsheep |
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| Space_Man | electricsheep? |
| Space_Man | is a social screen saver |
| MutantTurkey | wop woop |
| MutantTurkey | http://lwn.net/Articles/466287/ |
| MutantTurkey | got an LWN article :) |
| MutantTurkey | (or at least a small bit on lwn) |
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| Z_God | I added a bit more text: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/19 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 594 filed by office@klepp.biz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=594 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, konqueror does not save site certificates |
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| rzs19 | who is using dolphin/d3lphin and why? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 595 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=595 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Digikam 3.5.13 won't build without patches |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 596 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=596 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Gwenview 3.5.13 will not build without jpeg patches |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 597 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=597 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdebindings 3.5.13 will not build without numerous patches |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 598 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=598 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdenetwork will not build on Slackware with wifi support |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 599 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=599 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdepim cmake files incorrectly install header files into the incorrect location |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 600 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=600 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdegraphics cmake files incorrectly install header files into the incorrect location |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 601 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=601 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesdk will not build without patch |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 602 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=602 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kipi-plugins 3.5.13 will not build without jpeg patches |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 603 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=603 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, koffice 3.5.13 will not build without patch |
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| KingSphinx | Any idea if there's plans for Trinity repos for Fedora 16? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 604 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=604 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdevelop 3.5.13 will not build without patches |
| Space_Man | KingSphinx: has Fedora 16 just been released? |
| Space_Man | I think I read something about another release on slashdot |
| Space_Man | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#redhat |
| KingSphinx | Fedora 16 was released today, yes. I'm thinking of hopping back to it, just to see what's different. |
| Space_Man | For Fedora 16 (v3.5.13) |
| KingSphinx | Yay! That was quick! |
| Space_Man | it appears there are binaries avaivable |
| KingSphinx | 32 or 64-bit? |
| Space_Man | looks like the f16 dirs are missing |
| Space_Man | maybe you need wait for the mirrors to update :P |
| Space_Man | there are some details here http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity/rpm/ |
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| KingSphinx | At least there's a live CD (albiet based on F15) that'll give me a good idea of what Fedora/Trinity is like. |
| kb9vqf | Mirrors will take 24 hours....I was just informed of the f16 binaries an hour ago |
| kb9vqf | samelian, MutantTurkey, Xu_R: Looks like we kind of got spammed a bit with bugs |
| kb9vqf | Can you guys do some triage? |
| kb9vqf | Also remember that some of the nastier bugs should be fixed via patches while the GIT is frozen |
| kb9vqf | *patches uploaded to the bug reports |
| MutantTurkey | will those packages be pushed as binaries? |
| MutantTurkey | also i'll start looking |
| rzs19 | how can i make a logout with dcop and lock the scree nwith dcop? |
| rzs19 | dcop kmserver logout? |
| rzs19 | i want the same features like over the k... ähm trinity menue |
| kb9vqf | run kdcop |
| kb9vqf | you can explore all of the available DCOP signals/slots from there |
| rzs19 | perfect :D thx |
| kb9vqf | np |
| rzs19 | timpedia? :) |
| rzs19 | but for today, i will go to bed, wish everyone a good night :) |
| rzs19 | bye |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: we got mentioned on LWN |
| kb9vqf | saw that! |
| KingSphinx | LWN? |
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| MutantTurkey | Linux News. It's the best |
| MutantTurkey | http://lwn.net/ |
| MutantTurkey | linux weekly news I think |
| kb9vqf | Also noticed how the KDE3<-->KDE4 flame war instantly ignited |
| MutantTurkey | BUT not that badly. |
| MutantTurkey | Also people saying "the power of FOSS" |
| MutantTurkey | and the dot.kde.org article was very nice |
| KingSphinx | I don't see anything other than 15 Years of KDE... was it mentioned in there somewhere? |
| kb9vqf | it is separate |
| kb9vqf | and yes, I think (parts?) of the two dev teams are perfectly fine with the other's existence |
| KingSphinx | Oop, found it |
| MutantTurkey | looks like Vuze is bugging out with kgtk/qt engine |
| kb9vqf | yeah :-/ |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: its the fanboys not the devels |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: maybe I'll just put it on the blocklist |
| MutantTurkey | for kgtk |
| MutantTurkey | if thats the problem |
| kb9vqf | probably is... |
| MutantTurkey | I dont fancy dealing with Vuze, which means Java, which means all hell on earth. |
| kb9vqf | which is probably why it's crashing |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: At least one of the KDE4 devs still has a serious grudge against us |
| KingSphinx | Wait, seriously? |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: who? |
| kb9vqf | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/11/the-grass-has-always-been-greener-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence/ |
| kb9vqf | And my response is on http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/15 |
| MutantTurkey | oh yeah I saw that |
| MutantTurkey | is the etherpad public now? |
| kb9vqf | should be |
| MutantTurkey | okay cool |
| kb9vqf | you do have to follow the instructions on the top of each new pad to make it work though ;-) |
| kb9vqf | (follow them once for each new pad that is) |
| kb9vqf | we can still keep pads private to the team if desired |
| kb9vqf | *certain pads |
| MutantTurkey | seems like the meeting page is going well |
| MutantTurkey | I will write an announcment tomorrow (said that yesterday LOL) about it |
| MutantTurkey | 15th probably |
| kb9vqf | 15th |
| MutantTurkey | time? |
| kb9vqf | we do need to set the time |
| MutantTurkey | nes we do |
| MutantTurkey | It is a large concer. |
| kb9vqf | maybe a quick poll on the pad |
| kb9vqf | not sure, don't want to deal with it :)) |
| MutantTurkey | meh I feel like response will be crappy. I think just aiming for early in the day (2PM) EST |
| kb9vqf | Remember we have people from Eastern Europe here |
| MutantTurkey | that is why |
| kb9vqf | so don't put it at their midnight :) |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| MutantTurkey | germany is 6 hours ahead. |
| MutantTurkey | I mean, it was either midnight or 3am... |
| kb9vqf | as long as you are considering that I'll leave it up to you |
| kb9vqf | and yes, response to our meetings tends to be lousy |
| MutantTurkey | I've asked robert to run the meeting however |
| kb9vqf | Good |
| kb9vqf | was going to do that just now :-P |
| MutantTurkey | I dont know how to work the bot |
| kb9vqf | it's his bot so he should do it |
| kb9vqf | :) |
| MutantTurkey | I am hoping that we get a good turnout |
| MutantTurkey | maybe drive up some developeres and such |
| kb9vqf | would be nice |
| MutantTurkey | though our packagers seem to be taking off |
| kb9vqf | honestly our efforts should be focussed on 1.) Fixing bugs and 2.) Getting better integration in GTK/GTK3/Qt4 |
| MutantTurkey | I think a google based survey may be useful |
| kb9vqf | go for it--just remember that those who use third party tools have the responsibility of copying any data from them onto our servers ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | how is git going? |
| kb9vqf | pretty well |
| MutantTurkey | also archlinux binaries... We need to figure out where they are going |
| kb9vqf | It's not so much the repositories themselves that need work, it's the entire build system, etc. |
| kb9vqf | to fix everything efficiently I need the exclusive lock on the repos ATM |
| MutantTurkey | understood |
| kb9vqf | I'll leave Arch up to those who have even booted it before :-P |
| MutantTurkey | I have binaries ready |
| kb9vqf | ah, cool |
| MutantTurkey | I just need server space |
| kb9vqf | no problem there |
| kb9vqf | send me a link to the tarball |
| kb9vqf | that contains your entire repository as you want it deployed |
| MutantTurkey | Ok tarball the entire tarballs? |
| kb9vqf | Basically you will have a directory under trinity/arch |
| MutantTurkey | gotta run for a minute, talk then. |
| kb9vqf | semd me a tarball with everything the way you want it there |
| kb9vqf | (not via Email, via a link) |
| kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: You can Email me the link to the tarball when you have it ready |
| MutantTurkey | won't for a few days. |
| MutantTurkey | need to make i686 builds first |
| MutantTurkey | and do some research on how it works with arch |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: it'll be quite big |
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| MutantTurkey | blech vuze isn't even in the arch repositories (because its so terrible) |
| MutantTurkey | and it just pulled in every gross gnome lib i can think of |
| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: wait why do I see a knetworkmanager9? |
| MutantTurkey | I thought we gave up on it and decided to go with nm-applet? |
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| MutantTurkey | Dr Vodka LOL |
| drvodka | hi |
| MutantTurkey | hey :) |
| drvodka | i just read your name |
| drvodka | i'm reading the arch wiki about trinity |
| drvodka | although i'm using trinity on debian, i'm just reading around |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I am trying to pull that wiki page together. |
| MutantTurkey | what a mess... anyway |
| MutantTurkey | drvodka: any questions? :D |
| drvodka | do you know anything much about detecting what desktop is running? I came across a program today, it looks for KDE_FULL_SESSION, to decide to launch kfmclient to open a browser, i'm going to patch it to look for TDE_FULL_SESSION also, but i'm wondering what to do also as a total fallback |
| drvodka | at the moment it only detects kde and gnome |
| MutantTurkey | I think our environment variables might sitll crossover. |
| MutantTurkey | KDE_SESSION is a variable. |
| drvodka | yeah i still have a few that start KDE too |
| MutantTurkey | KDE_SESSION_UID rather. |
| MutantTurkey | what program is this? |
| MutantTurkey | j/w |
| drvodka | miro |
| drvodka | after installing trinity, the "open in web page" button for rss feed items stopped working |
| drvodka | so i fixed it for myself, i'm just thinking about submitting a patch, and the best ways |
| drvodka | it's a bit off topic here anyway i guess |
| MutantTurkey | nah not offtopic :P |
| MutantTurkey | if its related to trinity, it's on topic. |
| MutantTurkey | drvodka: I say send in the patch :P |
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| KingSphinx | Well, the Fedora Trinity live CD works fine, but notably... my wireless wasn't working. Fedora's normally the only distribution with out-of-box support for my kind of wireless card. |
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| Xu_R | kb9vqf: do you mind if I do my work for openSUSE spec files on a seperate branch for now? |
| Xu_R | it helps for CI |
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| edogaa | Well, I uninstalled trinity, it's nice but had too many issues. :/ For one thing, every other DE I ran, would run KDE3's kwin over their main WM. Also, a lot of KDE3 applications were larger than my screen and required me to hide the taskbar. o.O Though, I will likely use it on my main desktop machine just not sure about my laptop :/ |
| edogaa | And then, there was pulseaudio...lol applications had trouble with audio |
| edogaa | skype required artsD when kde3 was there. |
| edogaa | Still, other than those minor inconveniences it was nice! :| |
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| gryc | I regret installing fedora 15 before the i386 trinity packages were built :( |
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| edogaa | looooooooooool |
| edogaa | gryc: that;s why I backed my 4 gb home folder to DVD then reinstalled |
| gryc | Well I have my home still, I just have kde4 |
| gryc | but it's better than the mangled OS I had installed before. Ubuntu doesn't like being upgraded three times in one sitting |
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| edogaa | lol |
| KingSphinx | Whee, switch to Fedora went without a hitch. |
| edogaa | o.O if you can figure out why Kwin keeps running for every DE, and how to make sure pulseaudio works perfectly with every application, I am all ears :| |
| gryc | KingSphinx: Which Fedora? 16? |
| KingSphinx | Mhm, 16 |
| gryc | KingSphinx: Which trinity repo did you use? The normal one? |
| KingSphinx | Hmm? Oh, I don't have Trinity installed just yet, lol. I'm using KDE 4.7 for the time being, and... it's solid. Hasn't even given me the odd "crash-on-shutdown" bug that Ubuntu's version of KDE has. |
| gryc | Ah okay, then we're in the same boat, more or less :P |
| edogaa | from what I hear or read most debian based KDE implementations |
| edogaa | can be pretty poor |
| gryc | my sole experience with kde4 is on ubuntu, and it was...slow. |
| KingSphinx | Though to be honest, I probably should've gone with GNOME instead of the KDE spin, Strigi's killing me here... |
| edogaa | i just disable all that |
| KingSphinx | Never said I was *enjoying* KDE 4, just that it's about the most stable I've ever seen it. :P |
| _Pete_ | hey gurus, did you notice my email about debuild problem? |
| edogaa | I'm thinking of removing KDE4 since it's so unstable |
| edogaa | or not unstable... |
| edogaa | so much as just to slow on the card I use. |
| KingSphinx | I feel your pain... installing GNOME as we speak (hey, at least GNOME Shell doesn't run a whole SQL server in the background :P) |
| edogaa | Not painful, just anoying. clutter is it? feels smoother for the time being. lol |
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| cpatrick08 | i tried the instructions for fedora 16 that i got from this page http://trinitydesktop.org/installation.php and it would not download the repo file from wget so i went to http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/ and there is no 16 file i was wondering when it was going to be available |
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| edogaa | from the looks of it you're gonna have to wait lol |
| cpatrick008 | yea but i was wondering why it is on the installation part of the site if it is not available |
| edogaa | :/ lol... |
| gryc | cpatrick008: Because they're not quite done compiling I presume, same for the 32 bit packages. |
| cpatrick008 | ok |
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| gryc | give em a day or two and they should be up |
| cpatrick008 | kk |
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| edogaa | that doesn't quit answer his question as to why 'the instructions exist if they are unavailable' but ahw ell lol it works i guess |
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| duda | hi there |
| duda | I've installed TDE on Scientific Linux 6.1 |
| duda | echo |
| duda | :) |
| duda | cheers |
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| _Pete_ | hmm.. if I want to build sources should I use git or svn repo? |
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| aalecs | !seen samelian |
| tbottu | aalecs: samelian was last seen in #trinity-desktop 11 hours, 41 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <samelian> ask Tim why it was removed |
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| tbottu | aalecs: I have not seen alecs. |
| aalecs | !seen aalecs |
| tbottu | aalecs: aalecs was last seen in #trinity-desktop 6 seconds ago: <aalecs> !seen alecs |
| aalecs | m ok |
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| rzs19 | goood morning |
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| * Strangelv would applaud duda, but duda logged out before anyone could applaud | |
| schimaram_ | you can applaud me ;-) I installed it on a CenOS6 and now I'm filling a bug report :-( |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 605 filed by mojbordel@yahoo.co.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=605 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity QT3 breaks KDE4's k3b |
| * Strangelv claps | |
| marek77 | :-( |
| Strangelv | Wish it went as smoothly as <duda> I've installed TDE on Scientific Linux 6.1 |
| Strangelv | ...but at least we now know abut a problem |
| marek77 | Oh the installation went smoothly, no problem with that. But there should be a note for yum based distros and people using repo priorities that you have to put trinity repo on a higher priority than the Base distro repo. |
| marek77 | I managed to move over my .kde from KDE3.5.10, changed it into .trinity and Trinity started :-) but I've read how it's supposed to co-exist with other DEs so I added KDE4 and so far seen k3b crashing |
| Strangelv | Do we have a package name collisionL |
| marek77 | for the install? |
| marek77 | it was qt3 |
| marek77 | trinity provides and requires qt3-3.3.8d-2.el6.i686 |
| marek77 | CentOS 6.0 has qt3-3.3.8b |
| rzs19 | a friend reported some issues like kdm launches kwin for a xfce session, don't know if he has reported it as bug. |
| Strangelv | "So it treated them as equivalent? |
| rzs19 | seems that kdm needs kwin? |
| Strangelv | If that's the case we probably should call ours 3.3.9 -- it's not like it has an upstream other than us anymore |
| marek77 | yum treated the version numbers as equivalent disregarding "b" and "d" at the end, I guess. And since Base had higher prio than Trinity, it was a no go. |
| Strangelv | ...or _could_ we get Nokia to accetp our patches? |
| rzs19 | patches for qt3? |
| * Strangelv nods | |
| marek77 | that would need to be seen with Nokia, and looks like a clean solution :-) |
| Strangelv | TDE can't run with standard Qt3 -- there were some bugsl that got in the way, so Tim fixed the bugs with it |
| Strangelv | ...at least the relevant ones |
| marek77 | I swapped trinity and Base priorities, and it installed OK. it's just a versioning issue |
| Strangelv | So how are we breaking the Qt4 version of k3B? |
| marek77 | like this: |
| marek77 | [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] |
| marek77 | [KCrash handler] |
| marek77 | #6 0x0186c4d1 in QGList::append(void*) () |
| marek77 | from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| marek77 | #7 0x0352c3ec in KUniqueApplication::delayRequest(QCString const&, QMemArray<char> const&) () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| marek77 | #8 0x0352c4d5 in KUniqueApplication::process(QCString const&, QMemArray<char> const&, QCString&, QMemArray<char>&) () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| marek77 | but I don't know why KDE4's k3b is calling QT3...?? |
| Strangelv | "Maybe this isl a Qt4 k3b bug... |
| Strangelv | Where is _their_ bug tracker? Fire it there too? |
| marek77 | well to me it looks like k3b is loading some library and it get the one from trinity instead of the expected qt4 (with the same name)? |
| Strangelv | "if it's a name collison then it probabyl counts as our bug |
| Strangelv | ...ypossibly a Qt3 bug |
| Strangelv | Another patch for our submission to Nokia? |
| marek77 | could post it to KDE4 too. but sad experience shows that if you're not running the latest and greatest version (and with CentOS that's never the case), you'll be ignored in the better case. |
| Strangelv | So it's up to us to work out a test case, and unfortunately I'm not flexible enough to try that right now. I'm also way behind on my effort for National Novel Writing Month and have only now worked out a show-stopping technical issue (difficulty with trying to write what could be good science fiction with editing -- make the wrong error and your entire story is garbage). |
| marek77 | use a versioning system ;-) |
| Strangelv | Doesn't wokr if the story is built upon assumption X, and assumption X turns out to be completely impossible |
| marek77 | lol |
| Strangelv | It's more of a GIGO situation |
| marek77 | thought that was quite common in SF |
| Strangelv | Bad SF, yes |
| Strangelv | Stuff that fails to be real science fiction and doesn't ewven make for structuralyl sound fantasy |
| Strangelv | obsolete science fiction is different |
| Strangelv | that still holds up as fantasy |
| Strangelv | "So wha'ts the least difficult way to test the k3B bug? |
| Strangelv | "with the lastest versions of everything? |
| marek77 | if you want to see if it's still relevant, latest versions would be best. but as a user trying trinity my issue is that I DON'T want latest, I would be on Fedora instead of CentOS... |
| marek77 | KDE4 is seriously slow on my box, that's why I'm trying to keep "KDE3.5" with Trinity |
| marek77 | I guess if k3b is broken I'll have to use some non-QT app, but finding one up to par with k3b is difficult |
| Strangelv | The latest KDE3/TDE has just come out and uses the latest unofficial Qt3. I don't know what the latest KDE4 is. |
| Strangelv | There's always the challeneg of what to do if you can't get the newer versions of whatever fork you're using. Until a couple of months ago the Moon Society's infrastructure was running on a server running FreeBSD 4 |
| Strangelv | I probably don't need to describe the sorts of problems we were regularly running into... |
| Strangelv | It's why the wikis ended up on a different server with different provider |
| marek77 | well on CentOS6 it's 4.3.4, on my work Ubuntu Lucid it's 4.5.3, and KDE4 website says 4.7.3 |
| marek77 | argh |
| Strangelv | "I'm doubting they'll be motivated to fix "KDE" 4.3 |
| marek77 | exactly |
| Strangelv | ...but if we can at least confirm that the problem still exists, we can keep people running versions after the fix from rutnning into the problem |
| marek77 | just between 4.3 and 4.5, k3b goes from v1.0.5 to 2.0.1 |
| marek77 | major release.. |
| Strangelv | ...although if Debian is still running 4.3 they might be motivated o fix it |
| Strangelv | which one did you find the problem with? |
| marek77 | KDE4.3.4 k3b 1.0.5 |
| Strangelv | "We can hope that it's fixed with k3b 2, but it's probabyl important to check to make sure |
| marek77 | yep |
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| feindbild | hi ^^ |
| feindbild | can anyone point me to a public clone of tde-packaging (http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/) please? Pretty please don#t make me wget -r the thing >.< |
| vhumpa | Whoa, now with Fedora 16 out, packages and repo are already out for it and guess what, install perfectly! |
| Strangelv | "Yay Fedora |
| * Strangelv unfortunately has no experience with Git | |
| Strangelv | Ify ou stick around someone who can answer your qestion may wake up and answer it |
| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr marked bug 567 as a duplicate of bug 109. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=567 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, [ksmserver-trinity] dpkg-divert conflict |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=109 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ksmserver-kde3 cannot be removed in jaunty. |
| rzs19 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/dsywindows/ |
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| rzs19 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Window_System interessting porject :) |
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| DF5JT | Hi there, I can't get the Fedora repos to work. |
| DF5JT | There is no F16 repo and the F15-repo file sends me to an empty mirror |
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| marek77 | Hello |
| marek77 | I thought I would try trinity on Ubuntu Lucid; I installed as per http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php but it refused to start |
| marek77 | so I'm trying to uninstall |
| marek77 | :-( |
| marek77 | can't get rid of ksmserver-trinity |
| rzs19 | does kdm start? |
| marek77 | yeah KDM is ok, I kept the one from KDE4 |
| rzs19 | and if you select trinity, what happened excactly? |
| marek77 | I'm sorry I got frustrated and removed most of packages, can't reproduce anymore. But the splash didn't appear and I had a simple X window (a bit like xmessage) with an error message saying it couldn't find k___<something> |
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| marek77 | and an OK button, by pressing which I got back to kdm |
| marek77 | now I'm trying to remove the whole thing, and ksmserver-trinity post-removal script seems to be broken |
| marek77 | apt-get remove ksmserver-trinity |
| marek77 | ... |
| marek77 | ... |
| marek77 | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y |
| marek77 | (Reading database ... 461295 files and directories currently installed.) |
| marek77 | Removing ksmserver-trinity ... |
| marek77 | No diversion `any diversion of /usr/bin/plasma', none removed |
| marek77 | Removing `local diversion of /usr/bin/plasma-desktop to /usr/bin/plasma-desktop.kde4' |
| marek77 | dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/bin/plasma-desktop' with |
| marek77 | different file `/usr/bin/plasma-desktop.kde4', not allowed |
| marek77 | dpkg: error processing ksmserver-trinity (--remove): |
| marek77 | subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2 |
| marek77 | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| marek77 | ksmserver-trinity |
| marek77 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| marek77 | can't get rid of the bastard, tried apt-get, aptitude, even dpkg with --force-all |
| marek77 | hmm. I had to hack the postinstall script but I managed to get it uninstalled :-) |
| marek77 | added exit straight after "remove" action in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ksmserver-trinity.postrm |
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| h31 | Hi all. Kicker crashes every time I'm trying to see "Settings" submenu! |
| h31 | On Ubuntu 11.10 |
| _Pete_ | it's known bug |
| _Pete_ | http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 554: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
| h31 | _Pete_: are there any fix in a nightly builds repo? |
| _Pete_ | I think not, altough not 100% sure |
| h31 | _Pete_: are there any workaround? |
| _Pete_ | in that bug report there's patch |
| _Pete_ | havent tried myself |
| _Pete_ | that of coz requires you to compile things yourself |
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| Strangelv | Morning |
| h31 | _Pete_: oh, yet another question. I'm running trinity on a laptop, so are there any tools to change CPU frequency and to change powersaving options? |
| MutantTurkey | morning |
| MutantTurkey | h31: yes kpowersave |
| MutantTurkey | it works like a charm! (using it myself) |
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| Strangelv | <feindbild> can anyone point me to a public clone of tde-packaging (http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/) please? Pretty please don#t make me wget -r the thing >.< |
| * Strangelv doesn't actualyl understand what feinbild is requesting | |
| MutantTurkey | feindbild: you'll need to use git clone |
| MutantTurkey | to do it... |
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| MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: that posting by that *certain* kde4 developer has quite a bit of postings below it |
| MutantTurkey | a few good points, but mostly just mudslinging |
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| Strangelv | The author of http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/11/the-grass-has-always-been-greener-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence/ is extremely tame compared to the people who were militantly trying to forcibly ram KDE 4 down everyone's thorats circa KDE 4.1 a couple of years ago. |
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| rzs19 | Strangelv: du you have read the german post from martin gräßlin? |
| rzs19 | or translated? |
| Strangelv | No, so I can't guage what he posted there |
| Strangelv | only that specific blog post |
| MutantTurkey | I am trying to translate it now |
| rzs19 | his english post is harmless in contrast to his german one |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.freiesmagazin.de/mobil/freiesMagazin-2011-09-bilder.html#11_09_trinity |
| MutantTurkey | that is it |
| Strangelv | noted |
| Strangelv | so reading the German one might not be as safe for me as reading the English one... |
| MutantTurkey | his tone invalidates everything he says... |
| rzs19 | i think he has too much free time and maybe a brain disease - but don't know, i'am not dr. house. |
| MutantTurkey | he is so angry it makes his arguments pointless |
| MutantTurkey | he seems like a real jerk |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: did you catch mondays episode? |
| MutantTurkey | http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=auto&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www.freiesmagazin.de/mobil/freiesMagazin-2011-09-bilder.html%2311_09_trinityn |
| rzs19 | he also don't understand linux distribution, open source, wayland and x11 |
| MutantTurkey | translated. |
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| rzs19 | no, atm i don't have not so much time for watching tv :) |
| rzs19 | his blog contains some strange posts |
| h31 | Oh, another problem. Tried to switch to kickoff menu, if clicking on a menu button it hangs and uses 100% of cpu. |
| rzs19 | <somebadyjoke>h31, do you have disabled the kde4 simulator?</somebadjoke> |
| * Strangelv wonders what Kevin Kofler had in mind to do that he would have preferred to Tim's solution | |
| MutantTurkey | h31: I am working on it. |
| MutantTurkey | kickoff is hellish and from opensuse. Tim won't even touch the code |
| MutantTurkey | h31: I have a patch that should fix that problem, but the painting is still done grotesquely |
| MutantTurkey | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 508: minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kickoff menu unstable |
| gcsimon | in his german post, he is highlighting the new plasma desktop... i had it installed a while back, and it takes only "one single wrong mouseclick" to make your taskbar disappear. |
| MutantTurkey | the patch there should allow it to at least work well |
| * Strangelv wonders about the feasibility of a rewrite of Kickoff | |
| MutantTurkey | I was rewriting it to use the regular kbutton class but my development got sidetracked with the release |
| rzs19 | gcsimon: that was the one-klick-taskbar-disappear-feature its like the arrow from kicker :D |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: no the menu is OK, the button class sucks. |
| MutantTurkey | I have it rewritten, and it's almost there :p |
| h31 | MutantTurkey: so we can wait it in nightly builds soon? |
| MutantTurkey | h31: it's not in the nightly builds |
| MutantTurkey | I think I want to do the patch all at once. |
| gcsimon | wouldn't mind it, if there were a button to make it appear again ^^ |
| MutantTurkey | with everything fixed |
| MutantTurkey | though we _could_ upload that small fix. |
| MutantTurkey | h31: that is, once we get nightlies working again. |
| rzs19 | on friday, i will try to write a bluez kio "plugin" ... i hope i have the time |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: you know how to work with bluetooth?!?! |
| MutantTurkey | we need a bluetooth developer quite badly. |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: I am rereading his post, it's quite mundane |
| gcsimon | kde and bluetooth always failed for me. but gnome had a nice aplet which did the magic |
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| rzs19 | well, i don't think that this would be the solution you want to have. i'am a python developer, i use kde bindings and bluez. i have used bluez some time ago. after that, i will try to code better c++ and implement the same in c++. |
| rzs19 | so filetransfer over bluetooth shouldwork, but thats no magic... |
| * Strangelv looks forwart to looking at TDE Kickoff and seeing if it's an improvement over Kicker. He remembersl desperately wanting an alternative to Kicker more than six years ago, but over the years he's gotten used to its limitations. It has a lot of features he doesn't use becoues they result in a menru bar with no room for anything at all | |
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| rzs19 | MutantTurkey seems to be disappointed, but no ground to leave the chat |
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| gcsimon | btw. i still have a server with about 500 GB spare traffic each month, could you use it? |
| gcsimon | sadly i currently don't have the time to do active development |
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| * Strangelv isn't sure wdo besides Tim could answer gcsimon's question | |
| Strangelv | "Acutally, I'm pretty sure th answer is likely to be 'yes' but I can only guess beyond that point (hoting a mirror being my ownly guess) |
| Strangelv | Thoere might be a better answer, though |
| Strangelv | Martin Gräßlin's attitude does get a bit more taxic in the comments |
| Strangelv | toxic, too |
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| rzs19 | he acts like a little children ;) |
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| rzs19 | wb |
| MutantTurkey | thanks :) |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: to the bluetooth. i don't know if my kio bluetooth solution isthat was you want, its atm planed for filetransfer |
| MutantTurkey | had to dash to my chem class |
| MutantTurkey | what else does bluetooth provide? |
| rzs19 | what* |
| rzs19 | remote control |
| MutantTurkey | what previously existed? |
| MutantTurkey | remote control? |
| rzs19 | don't knw, i only have used file transfer |
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| rzs19 | yep you can control your desktop with a handy |
| MutantTurkey | I mean a kio plugin is nice becaue it is small |
| gcsimon | HID over bluetooth? |
| gcsimon | for keyboard/mice |
| MutantTurkey | that too. |
| gcsimon | that was my primary use-case |
| MutantTurkey | how did KDE3.5 originally have bluetooth support? |
| Strangelv | Remember boys and girls, it doesn't matter how sluggish, incomplete, annoying, or otherwise unduly difficult to KDE4 is, you can't compare it to TDE/KDE3 except to say that TDE/KDE3 is inferior becuse it doesn't have this gee whiz feature everyone simply must be using or they're yesterday's rubbish. I need to stop reading this. |
| MutantTurkey | (I barely ever use bluetooth, only once for a mouse) |
| rzs19 | don't know i primary used it for filetransfer :) |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: except that it's 4.7 and they still are fixing compositor issues LOL |
| MutantTurkey | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile |
| MutantTurkey | maybe relevant |
| MutantTurkey | thats the spec |
| MutantTurkey | 28 different things. |
| * Strangelv doesn't know what he would be running if it wasn't for TDE. He might be able to run 3.5.190 for as far as Meerkat, and perhas after that maybe XFCE... | |
| MutantTurkey | if someone implemented that. HOLY CRAP it would be cool |
| gcsimon | i believe there was an applet. kbluetooth |
| MutantTurkey | xfce is like gnome2 but worse.... |
| Strangelv | s/3.5.190/3.5.10/ |
| rzs19 | much todo :D |
| gcsimon | i tried gnome..... :( |
| Strangelv | Yes, but it's still being supported. Q: DOes it try to protect users from information they really do need to know? |
| MutantTurkey | Q: xfce? |
| MutantTurkey | okay so lets talk more about bluetooth. |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: how much is covered by bluez? |
| MutantTurkey | my guess is that we basically just need to write a bluetooth frontend |
| MutantTurkey | libbluez probably covers everything |
| MutantTurkey | relevant http://www.bluez.org/ |
| rzs19 | *need to try kbluetooth* hmm,don't know, its a long time i have worked with bluez, could only remember thath i have build a console app for filetransfer. |
| Strangelv | "Yes, Gnome 2 does/did that -- one of the main reasons why it proved to be a grating experienec for me, if pleasant by comparison to my experienec with KDE 4 |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: do you have a link to kblueooth? |
| MutantTurkey | I dont seem to remember seeing it |
| gcsimon | i had it on an openSuSE system (10.1) |
| gcsimon | but i have no linkt o it |
| MutantTurkey | okya |
| rzs19 | i think it was alsoe build on top of bluez? |
| MutantTurkey | I wonder if someone can drudge up the sources from the dreaded KDE:KDE3 repository |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: yes |
| gcsimon | yep |
| MutantTurkey | bluez is the kernel stack. |
| MutantTurkey | everything is written on top of it for bluetooth |
| rzs19 | i hope i can write a small solution next week, taht will work. |
| gcsimon | google has a few links to kbluetooth |
| MutantTurkey | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.4/src/kde3-kdebluetooth-1.0.8-172.1.src.rpm |
| MutantTurkey | got it |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: maybe try porting that |
| rzs19 | well, i think my c++ is too bad. but now i have motivation to learn it better, becouse i want help :) |
| Strangelv | Are there sources of stock code that we could hamter into shape? |
| Strangelv | Or maybe hammer? |
| gcsimon | careful. openSuSE 10.4 does not ship kde3 anymore. the link you got could be of kde4-kbluetooth |
| rzs19 | or "i want to help" ... whattever... seems that i alos have to learn englisch ;D |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: no that is the KDE:KDE3 repository |
| MutantTurkey | maintained by our lovely collaborator, Ilya |
| MutantTurkey | maybe Xu_R can explain |
| MutantTurkey | basically ilya maintains unoffical repos for it, |
| gcsimon | ah. my mistake. sry |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | does someone want to take a look at the link |
| MutantTurkey | try and compile it maybe? |
| * Strangelv has yet to do anything successfully with an RPM package | |
| gcsimon | i have a few opensuse boxes here |
| gcsimon | 11.4 mainly |
| gcsimon | i could try. but i never did any development with kde3 or qt3 |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: maybe take a loot at it at least. |
| MutantTurkey | its just a source tarball afaik |
| gcsimon | i got it unpacked |
| gcsimon | inside is a tar.gz with the source |
| gcsimon | someone want to have it? |
| _Pete_ | after couple of days using, starting relove kde3 again |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: I would |
| MutantTurkey | though I can just do the rpm as well |
| _Pete_ | this is blazing fast compared to gnome and even xfce |
| gcsimon | i can upload it to my server |
| gcsimon | www.brennecke-it.net/simon/linux/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta8.tar.bz2 |
| MutantTurkey | at 11kb/s it will take a long while |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: indeed :) |
| gcsimon | ^^ |
| MutantTurkey | this dumb 3G connection stinks inside the chem labs. |
| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: yeah, even with my machine its really noticeable |
| gcsimon | no w-lan? |
| drvodka | you're all making me think about bluetooth now too, i haven't tried it yet |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: I have a new machine (i5) and it's noticeable. |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: our school wifi is terrible, so tethering it is the solution |
| _Pete_ | yep, this is i7 |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: school wifi doesnt play with linux well |
| MutantTurkey | drvodka: are you a bluetooth junkie? |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: my guess for kde3-bluetooth is that the API's a totally borked |
| MutantTurkey | because bluez has probably changed quite a bit. |
| drvodka | MutantTurkey: not really, but i have one for transferring photos from my phone occasionally, it kind of worked in kde4 :O it would just crash after every image |
| rzs19 | so it should not be a problem to fix it, or? :) |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: so it should be maybe difficult |
| MutantTurkey | but not as hard as doing from scratch |
| gcsimon | i used obexftp for that |
| gcsimon | kbluetooth/kio_bluez never worked for me |
| MutantTurkey | well lets get it working! :p |
| gcsimon | currently i try to get all includes/libs together to make it compile on my TDE box here |
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| rzs19 | this week i have no time, becouse i travel to austria. on friday(on the long train ride) i will try to get a working bluez kio plugin, after that, i could take a look on kbluetooth(if no other will do this before me) |
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| drvodka | hmm |
| drvodka | Configuration file "/home/user/.kde/share/config/bluedevilmonolithicrc" not writable. |
| drvodka | Please contact your system administrator. |
| MutantTurkey | drvodka: are the permissions funky? |
| marek77 | bluetooth seriously sucks. no matter desktop or even OS |
| marek77 | blue tooth of PAIN |
| gcsimon | gnome got it working, but i agree it it quite bugged |
| drvodka | MutantTurkey: possibily, that config directory is set to 700 |
| MutantTurkey | marek77: yep |
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| MutantTurkey | drvodka: what else is set in the area? |
| MutantTurkey | chown it maybe |
| drvodka | i just chown to 755, now the bluedevil starts, gonna test it now |
| h31 | Hello, It's me again :) What package is required to add ssl support to kmail and konversation? |
| h31 | Also, how to fix an incorrect codepage of IMAP folders? |
| MutantTurkey | drvodka: what is bluedevil? |
| gcsimon | h31: openssl? i did'nt install anything specific |
| drvodka | MutantTurkey: that's what installed when i installed kdebluetooth |
| MutantTurkey | drvodka: on what system? |
| MutantTurkey | is this kde4 or 3? |
| drvodka | trinity on debian wheezy |
| drvodka | but maybe it pulled from kde4 packages.... |
| MutantTurkey | who provided kdeblueooth? from our repos? |
| drvodka | ah, yeah it must be a kde4 package from squeeze/wheezy |
| MutantTurkey | the package should be named trinity-X |
| gcsimon | drvodka: what configure options did you use? |
| MutantTurkey | yeah :p |
| MutantTurkey | whoops |
| MutantTurkey | anyone know how to debug Java? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't even know where to start. |
| drvodka | what package should i install then? i can't find a bluetooth one for trinity |
| MutantTurkey | it doesnt exist. |
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| MutantTurkey | thats why were having _this_ conversation |
| drvodka | ok |
| MutantTurkey | it broke some time ago (3.5.11?) and nobody had bluetooth knowledge to fi |
| gcsimon | yeah bluedevil sounds suspiciously like kde4 |
| MutantTurkey | most people dont even use / have bluetooth devices |
| gcsimon | i think this is, because it is quite hard to find good software to use it |
| rzs19 | http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7606/tbar5.png - slowly it works :) |
| gcsimon | i use obexftp to transfer vcards from my desktop addressbook (kontact) to my phone |
| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: debug java? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| _Pete_ | start java with proper parameters to enable debuging |
| MutantTurkey | someone reported Vuze(java app) is crashing because of qt-gtk-engine |
| MutantTurkey | so I am tryng to debug it |
| _Pete_ | then use some IDE to connect the running process |
| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: it was me who reported |
| MutantTurkey | okay :) |
| _Pete_ | it's wierd |
| MutantTurkey | yeah gtk-qt-engine is also my dealio along with kickoff |
| MutantTurkey | trying to port it to gtk3 as well. |
| _Pete_ | as if I do ssh -X localhost |
| _Pete_ | and then start vuze |
| _Pete_ | it goes ok |
| _Pete_ | i suspect it's envinronment problem |
| MutantTurkey | no it makes sense |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: thats the environmental variable maybes then? |
| MutantTurkey | i mean vuze probably makes weird calls |
| MutantTurkey | also, I hate vuze :p |
| MutantTurkey | bug = lowest priority of all time. |
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| MutantTurkey | but actually I just dontknow how to deal with java |
| _Pete_ | I think it's not java issue |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: no, I know it's not |
| MutantTurkey | but I just don't know how to find a backtrace or anything. |
| _Pete_ | crash happens before java is started? |
| _Pete_ | took a little look the starting script |
| _Pete_ | it does some wierd stuff |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | I am just interested in the calls. |
| _Pete_ | I guess the crash happens somewhere there in script |
| _Pete_ | before it gets to point to do: java .... |
| MutantTurkey | it makes a call at8 $START_CLASS "$@" |
| MutantTurkey | 189 |
| h31 | Oh, I opened konqueror setting, cryptography tab, tried to load OpenSSL, konqueror was not able to do it. |
| MutantTurkey | 188 $START_CLASS "$@" |
| gcsimon | h31: openssl installed? |
| * Strangelv tries to avoid ranting about the brick walls he ran into trying to port a project from C++ to Java. He's not done anything with either langage since. | |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: I dont know where it's going from there. |
| MutantTurkey | s15y: java is not good i think |
| MutantTurkey | it has it's place in certain situations, but mostly I think it is good to avoid. |
| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: which script are you talking? |
| MutantTurkey | especially for performance critical things like torrenting... |
| h31 | gcsimon: of course |
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| Strangelv | I didn't get far enough to run into performance issues. I was trying to use higher than double float precision and had a complicated class structure to port over. Java has some patronizing features that can become an unbelievable pain. |
| _Pete_ | so has c++ |
| drvodka | well, i installed every bluetooth package i could find, and somehow i can send/recieve files ok, so i'm happy |
| gcsimon | h31: "openssl" on console works? |
| Strangelv | I've basically nt esd anything but Python or Javascript for several years. I'm considering learning PHP to port something I wrote in Javascript that needs access to features no browser will allow with javascript |
| h31 | gcsimon: prints "OpenSSL>" |
| gcsimon | h31: good |
| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: /usr/lib/java-wrappers/java-wrappers.sh |
| _Pete_ | are you talking about this? |
| gcsimon | h31: any specific message from konqueror, why it cannot load openssl? |
| h31 | gcsimon: libssl was not found or successfully loaded. |
| h31 | Nothing more |
| gcsimon | h31: maybe wrong architecture? like konqeror is 64bit and the libssl is 32bit? |
| gcsimon | h31: or is it a 32bit only box? |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: /usr/bin/vuze |
| h31 | gcsimon: only 32 bit |
| Xu_R|School | kb9vqf: you there? >_>" |
| MutantTurkey | "gone away for now" |
| gcsimon | h31: please run "ldd -r /usr/lib64/libssl3.so", does it report any unresolved symbols or something? |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|School: whats up doode |
| gcsimon | h31: sry. /lib/ not "/lib64/" |
| gcsimon | h31: my box is 64bit |
| h31 | gcsimon: there are no libssl3.so, only libssl.so.0.9.8 |
| gcsimon | h31: hm. what distribution do you use? |
| Xu_R|School | hey MutantTurkey |
| h31 | gcsimon: ubuntu 11.10 |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|School: gotta send out the reminder today for the meetin |
| MutantTurkey | what shoud it say |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| Xu_R|School | MutantTurkey: basically that there will be a meeting next week |
| Xu_R|School | what time |
| Xu_R|School | remind what channel |
| Xu_R|School | and a link to discussion topics |
| Xu_R|School | you should send a reminder email again in a few days to make sure people remember |
| MutantTurkey | still didnt pick a time... :x |
| gcsimon | h31: mh. thats the right library. my konqueror here loads it too. |
| gcsimon | h31: try to run ldd -r against that one |
| Xu_R|School | >>;; |
| h31 | gcsimon: all libs are found.] |
| Xu_R|School | Try afternoon? It would be good for everyone from europe to be there too :) |
| Xu_R|School | I use this to make sure: http://www.timeanddate.com/ |
| drvodka | i use kworldclock-trinity :D |
| Xu_R|School | :P |
| Xu_R|School | ok, I gotta split. Lunch isn't eating itself :| and I'm not in the same place as before where I could eat and have a computer |
| Xu_R|School | >_> |
| Xu_R|School | later guys |
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| rzs19 | bye, see you all later |
| drvodka | bye |
| gcsimon | cy |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 606 filed by james@nurealm.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=606 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, launching privileged apps from the panel "kicker" throws a password dialog box |
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| * Strangelv incrasingly suspects the need for a 3.5.13.1 release | |
| KingSphinx | I'm just hoping that the Fedora version isn't as buggy as the Ubuntu build... |
| * kb9vqf notes that such a release would push 3.5.14 out by several months at least | |
| KingSphinx | Though, at this rate, as long as it runs acceptably well, I'll take it; Fedora's given me nothing but grief with GNOME Shell |
| KingSphinx | Hardware acceleration seems to be either poorly-implemented or just plain broken because stuff as simple as drawing the volume indicator if I raise/lower the volume takes forever. |
| drvodka | are the debian and ubuntu builds essentially identical? |
| kb9vqf | they are close, but by no means identical |
| KingSphinx | I think there's some slight differences, I think it has to do with how the Ubuntu build takes after Kubuntu, while every other version is essentially "stock" TDE |
| kb9vqf | also, each set if binary packages is actually built on the distribution and version mentioned, so Ubuntu Maverick packages are actually built on a clean install of Ubuntu Maverick, etc. |
| drvodka | ok, just curious because it seems to be working very nicely here on debian, it felt like it took a second or two longer to boot up than kde3.5 official, but everything else seems fast, and working so far |
| drvodka | start up, not boot up |
| kb9vqf | actually I think I know where the speed difference comes from ;-) |
| KingSphinx | Is it possible to get "stock" TDE without the Kubuntu stuff on Ubuntu? |
| kb9vqf | kwin is preloaded during kdm startup |
| KingSphinx | Without building from source, I mean. |
| kb9vqf | hmmm....never had that request before....there are patches in the Ubuntu versions, so your only recourse would be Debian or build from source |
| kb9vqf | you should be able to install the Debian version on Ubuntu, but I have not tried it before |
| drvodka | any time i have a dull moment in my work, i just sit and press the 'home' icon, and marvel at how konq file browser is there instantly, unlike kde4, tears of joy |
| KingSphinx | Hmm, figures. :/ Oh well, kind of a moot point for me now seeing as I'm back on Fedora and all. |
| kb9vqf | glad to hear someone likes our work :)) |
| kb9vqf | KingSphinx: Ubuntu users tend to put up with a lot of patched/modified software, so I kind of kept that tradition alive ;-) |
| kb9vqf | the main changes are in default settings |
| KingSphinx | The only thing in Fedora that I truly feel needs to die in a fire is SELinux. :P |
| kb9vqf | and sudo-related stuff |
| kb9vqf | Yes, most desktop systems are not bank vaults :-P |
| kb9vqf | SELinux is quite overkill on the desktop |
| KingSphinx | SELinux has given me nothing but problems, it wouldn't even let me run GNOME Shell! |
| kb9vqf | heh |
| drvodka | haha wow |
| kb9vqf | Seriously though, it is designed for securing servers |
| kb9vqf | not for desktop usage |
| kb9vqf | and apparently it wants to enforce its design! |
| KingSphinx | I had to let SELinux puke up an error message, then work around that, open up a terminal, then blindly type "yum groupinstall lxde" since it was hidden behind that "Something has gone wrong!" fullscreen message. |
| kb9vqf | oh fun |
| kb9vqf | sounds like the type of really, really bad design I am seeing way too often in Linux these days |
| kb9vqf | IMHO the major distributions should be hiring a usability team and obeying everything they say ;-) |
| KingSphinx | then logout, enter LXDE (really quite light, only an 18 MB install), and completely disable SELinux. All this just to use my default desktop. |
| drvodka | i was just reading some results on the lastest ubuntu usability tests, where they gave ubuntu to some random people, and asked them to perform various normal tasks, got their opinion on various interface things |
| drvodka | it's good to see someone doing that |
| KingSphinx | SEL really should be an install-time option, not included by default... |
| KingSphinx | Besides, who uses Fedora in a production environment? CentOS or RHEL's more suited for that... |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 572 as a duplicate of bug 583. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=572 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Problems with KDE Trinity 3.5.13 repositories on Debian Squeeze/Wheezy amd64 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=583 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [kdelibs] startkde fails because of undefined symbol _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv |
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| rzs19 | hello :) |
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| aalecs | samelian: hi, private |
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| KingSphinx | Whee, I can't yet install TDE on Fedora because the trinity-kdeaccessibility package can't be found. |
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| gcsimon | btw. i got trinity running in a xen para-virtualized machine. not trivial. but possible. if someone wants to the same thing, just ask. |
| SomethingGoesOn | when i can wait packages for 32-bit maverick? :) |
| SomethingGoesOn | wait for* |
| gcsimon | actually i used lucid, the new ubuntu live cd won't work with xen. kernel problem i suspect (won't detect harddisk and network) |
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| Xu_R | ping kb9vqf |
| rzs19 | gn8 |
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| n0xx0ff | hi... |
| n0xx0ff | i'm trying to install trinity on oneric... dpkg is trying to remove sudo... is this normal? :| |
| KingSphinx | Yes, it's fine. You'll need to enable root, then use root to install Trinity. Don't worry, sudo-trinity will function exactly the same. |
| KingSphinx | Just remember to lock up root after you've finished. :P |
| n0xx0ff | nice... thnx :) |
| KingSphinx | I use Fedora, so I can use root right out of the box. Not that Ubuntu's approach is bad or anything, I just find using root a bit more convenient than prefacing everything with sudo. |
| n0xx0ff | sudo bash |
| n0xx0ff | ;) |
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| n0xx0ff | i soo wanna check this out... you guys been running trinity with compiz? how does if fare in comparison to kde4+effects? |
| KingSphinx | I haven't run it with Compiz yet, so I wouldn't know. The only time I ever really bothered with Trinity+Compiz, it somehow borked my display driver. |
| KingSphinx | That was back with Ubuntu 10.10 though, so it may be better now. |
| n0xx0ff | : No space left on device << lol... :( |
| n0xx0ff | damn |
| KingSphinx | No space left? How small is your hard drive?! O_o |
| n0xx0ff | ... my partition is rather small actually.... plus my apt cache is full of junk... it's just a setback... ;) |
| KingSphinx | Ah... |
| KingSphinx | By the way, TDE's gone from putting sound only through my main sound card in Kubuntu, to no sound at all in Fedora. |
| KingSphinx | Other than that, it actually runs rather smoothly, the only glitch of note so far is that the Keramik theme's window border is still missing. |
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| n0xx0ff | here goes nothing... brb |
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| gryc | Well that was wierd, I selected "TDE" but I ended up with some unholy combination of the kde4 desktop with the kde3 apps |
| kb9vqf | plasma tends to autolaunch with TDE |
| kb9vqf | bad design on KDE4's part unfortunately |
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| _Pete_ | fuck this is really annoying |
| _Pete_ | when I try to start certaing program |
| _Pete_ | like |
| _Pete_ | ~$ wine |
| _Pete_ | bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory |
| _Pete_ | and that surely is there |
| _Pete_ | this used to work before trinity |
| _Pete_ | but how is this possible? |
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| Strangelv | So you type it in, doesn't see it, bun knows precisely where it used to be? |
| Strangelv | Is the file still there? |
| * Strangelv is reaching her, admittedly | |
| Strangelv | here, too |
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| Strangelv | Morning |
| aalecs | morn |
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| rzs19 | does any one have documents about kioslaves für kde3/tde ? |
| samelian | rzs19: yes |
| samelian | hang on |
| samelian | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/KIO_Slaves/Hello_World |
| samelian | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Architecture/KDE3/Network_Transparency |
| samelian | http://paginas.fe.up.pt/~jmcruz/etc/kde/kdeqt/kde3arch/nettransparency.html |
| samelian | http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kio/html/classKIO_1_1SlaveBase.html |
| samelian | have fun :) |
| rzs19 | nice, last night i only found broken links. |
| samelian | hehe |
| samelian | what you want to do? |
| rzs19 | kio slave for bluez and weather :) |
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| samelian | nice |
| rzs19 | well, weather applet is alos msising for my superkarambabar ... damn i have to less time *need48Hdays* |
| rzs19 | dpkg -L python-trinity-trinity-doc/./usr/usr/share/usr/share/doc/usr/share/doc/python-trinity-trinity-doc/usr/share/doc/python-trinity-trinity-doc/changelog.Debian.gz/usr/share/doc/python-trinity-trinity-doc/changelog.gz/usr/share/doc/python-trinity-trinity-doc/copyright/usr/share/doc/python-trinity-trinity-doc/THANKSnot much docu? |
| rzs19 | are there no documentation, or examples? |
| samelian | examples of what? |
| rzs19 | of python bindings |
| samelian | hmm, I have no ideea, I do not know python at all |
| rzs19 | i alos need to know the differenz between pykde from riverbank and the trinity python bindings... |
| gcsimon | i'm administrating a weather station in germany - but we only have a weather-applet for windows (c#) :-( |
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| rzs19 | well, do you have documentation about the protocol which is use for query weatherinformation? |
| gcsimon | yes, i'm one of the developers ;-) it open source GNU GPL. but thze source is not yet available to the public. but if you are interesed i could give you svn access |
| rzs19 | okay :D |
| rzs19 | so maybe i can port it :) |
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| gcsimon | http://wetter.fh-worms.de (old site) and http://wetter2.mt-labor.it.fh-worms.de (new site under development) |
| rzs19 | where is worms? |
| rzs19 | near ffm? |
| gcsimon | http://maps.google.de/maps/place?ftid=0x47962bc14f284789:0x422d4d510db1be0&q=worms&hl=de&ved=0CAwQ-gswAA&sa=X&ei=p867TpTeCsmP_AapsrCVAw |
| gcsimon | about 80km to frankfurt |
| rzs19 | hehe :D |
| rzs19 | i'am from ffm |
| rzs19 | atm... |
| gcsimon | :D |
| Strangelv | :: wonders what's left of Rhein-Mein |
| gcsimon | strangelv: whera re you from? |
| rzs19 | Strangelv seems mystic... |
| Strangelv | "I'm in Texas, but I lived in Rheinland-Pfaeltz for a little over 3 years |
| Strangelv | Zweibruecken and Bitburg |
| Strangelv | A long time ago in a country now far, far away... |
| gcsimon | :D |
| * Strangelv was a supply puke for the US Air Force | |
| * Strangelv needns to stop seeing things at Zweiblucken flash before his eyes like it's right ouside his window. That was moer than 20 years ago and much of that infrastructuer no longer exists | |
| Strangelv | ...or maybe none of it still exists... |
| gcsimon | don't know much about zweibrücken - 100km away from my location, and i have lttle business there ;) |
| Strangelv | I don't remember much there and I was there for more than two years |
| Strangelv | What I do remember -- most of the people theer hated the air base becausoe the F-4s were noisy. Almost none of them could speak English despite what I'd been told (I regularly got in troubel attempting to figure things out with what little Deutsche I could speak -- one conversation the person helpfully threw in the English words right and left, but i still got lost)... mostly agricultural |
| Strangelv | The shops closed early even on long saturday |
| Strangelv | Q: How are you supposed to do any shopping whene verything closes befoer you get off of work? |
| gcsimon | yeah, that problem sill persists, but the english speaking population increased. today everyone lerns english at school |
| gcsimon | (mor eor less, as you can see ;-) ) |
| Strangelv | Evidently in the 1980s and erlier they didn't in some areas... I can only wish that I'd been taught something when I was young enough to learn something besides English |
| Strangelv | Bilungual education was only there for people woh already knew how to speak Spanish. I need to not get started on that... |
| Strangelv | "if English is hde default second language to learn, what's the nextn one in line? French (predecessor to English in this regard)? Mandarin? Japanese? Latin (not much is written in it these days)? Greek? |
| Strangelv | Mandarin wouldn't have been a serious choice when I was in school. It took awhile for Deng to fix what he was able to fix before becoming the problemhimself by 1989 or so |
| gcsimon | french or spanish, that's all that gets offered at school here (opional) |
| Strangelv | "Spanish I must admit has a gob of speakers |
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| MobileTurkey | sup all |
| rzs19 | hello Mr. MobileTurkey |
| rzs19 | are you from Turkey, or can i eat you? |
| MobileTurkey | I am not from turkey? :[ |
| * MobileTurkey 's nick is my mobile nickname | |
| MobileTurkey | usually mutantturkey. |
| * Strangelv 'n nick is online combat games is usually StrangeTarget | |
| Strangelv | <_Pete_> bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory and that surely is there this used to work before trinity but how is this possible? |
| Strangelv | from a couple of hours ago |
| MobileTurkey | _Pete_: is that possible? maybe your path is wrong, or wine is installed somewhere else. |
| MobileTurkey | I'd verify the file is actually there. |
| rzs19 | gobbler == turkey ? |
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| aquarius_ | hi there |
| aquarius_ | i've tried TDE 3.5.13.. you were right. A few bugs. Kicker crashes. |
| aquarius_ | but would be nice if you brought it back. |
| aquarius_ | to normal that is. |
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| MobileTurkey | Kicker crashis? |
| MobileTurkey | aquarius_: more info |
| MobileTurkey | rzs19: Gobble Gobble |
| aquarius_ | yep |
| aquarius_ | hey Turkey :) |
| aquarius_ | it does... even KingSphinx said it... |
| aquarius_ | i went to check.... yep, crashes. |
| aquarius_ | usually when you move the mouse over "System" in menu |
| aquarius_ | but there's a few other glitches as well. |
| jumpship | Just out of curiosity, what other glitches? |
| jumpship | bug 554 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
| aquarius_ | hey Jump.. nice to see you again |
| aquarius_ | i don't remember man... |
| aquarius_ | i've removed it already.. |
| aquarius_ | so can't tell... but mainly it's kicker alright.. |
| aquarius_ | by the way.. funny thing, in Ubuntu task panel buttons look prettier than in Debina. |
| aquarius_ | Debian* |
| aquarius_ | they're more "deep" in a way |
| aquarius_ | if pushed |
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| jumpship | Then it prob is a theme thing |
| jumpship | I don't like the just bold thing either, but got used to it long ago |
| aquarius_ | i see... |
| MobileTurkey | Is it a theme thing? |
| MobileTurkey | that is weird though |
| MobileTurkey | what settings do you have? |
| MobileTurkey | aquarius_: I'd like to try and reproduce it |
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| MobileTurkey | Xu_R|School: sup |
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| * MobileTurkey sitting in schools "piano lounge". guy playing piano SUCKS :[ | |
| MobileTurkey | it's really annoying because anyone can play, but this guy is fucking terrible. |
| Xu_R|School | hey MobileTurkey |
| MobileTurkey | :x |
| Xu_R|School | XD |
| MobileTurkey | sorry about that. |
| * MobileTurkey smacks himself for language. | |
| MobileTurkey | It's really bugging me though. |
| Xu_R|School | I'm in the music office of the school right now... |
| Xu_R|School | the lowest level of the band is rehearsing right now |
| MobileTurkey | it's like those people who can only play mary had a little lamb |
| MobileTurkey | except worse. |
| Xu_R|School | it's giving me a headache >>;; |
| Xu_R|School | LOL |
| jumpship | The pressed looking taskbar buttons is prob a theme thing, but if your thinking of the kicker crash, thats bug 554 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
| Xu_R|School | nice analogy :P |
| aquarius_ | MobileTurkey, that would be a nice thing man |
| MobileTurkey | aquarius_: how do you reproduce it |
| MobileTurkey | ? |
| aquarius_ | MobileTurkey, ah.... crash you mean? |
| aquarius_ | MobileTurkey, kicker crash? |
| aquarius_ | MobileTurkey, move your mouse over "System" in kicker menu. |
| Xu_R|School | wow... period is over already? >>;; |
| Xu_R|School | kk, later |
| MobileTurkey | no crash for me |
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| aquarius_ | weird. |
| aquarius_ | and what you're using now? |
| aquarius_ | Debian or Ubuntu? |
| aquarius_ | probably my config then. Anyways, i don't care.. i just wanted to see KDE3 on Ubuntu. |
| aquarius_ | i'm soon to wipe it the hell out... |
| aquarius_ | Ubuntu = bloated mainstream non-charismatic piece of disasterpiece. |
| aquarius_ | or just disasterpiece. |
| aquarius_ | frequently and diligently updated though... |
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| jumpship | Nothing wrong with Ubuntu, as long as I don't have to use it :) |
| drvodka | not too much wrong with ubuntu, as long as i remove all the default settings |
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| jumpship | Someone must like it, isn't it the most used desktop distro, or something |
| drvodka | i think it just slipped into second after mint |
| drvodka | but that's recent downloads, not total |
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| drvodka | i guess i missed the memo about mint, a few people i know installed it recently and removed ubuntu |
| jumpship | Isn't mint based on Ubuntu? Can't remember. |
| drvodka | they must have had a good promotional drive |
| drvodka | oh yeah, i looked it up |
| drvodka | didn't know they are based on ubuntu |
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| rzs19 | well, there must be more differences as speed in kde3 vs kde4. |
| jumpship | If Ubuntu is for people who can't config debian, then I guess mint is for those who can't config Ubuntu |
| drvodka | hah |
| rzs19 | LOL @jumpship |
| drvodka | so who is debian for, people who didn't want to set their CFLAGs to stun and build gentoo? |
| drvodka | before i used debian, i used slackware |
| rzs19 | we should use LFS to get true power |
| aquarius_ | that's the problem, it's just too most used :) |
| aquarius_ | i don't wanna be another ubuntist |
| drvodka | i buildt a little mini distro recently, just to play, it runs ECL lisp as the shell |
| aquarius_ | besides... it's pretty slow compared to Debian. |
| aquarius_ | it starts up the same slow as Win 7 |
| rzs19 | some one knows the spinoff "lesbian" from debian? |
| drvodka | hah nope |
| aquarius_ | in fact.. it reminds me of Win 7 which is quite disturbing. |
| jumpship | I like Debian, it fits me |
| aquarius_ | me too. |
| aquarius_ | but got issues. |
| aquarius_ | audio still... it's not pulseaudio, it's not alsa... it's just kernel incompatibility with my hardware. |
| drvodka | my only issue with debian really is i tend to be in all repos at once because stuff is very slow to get to stable and even testing sometimes |
| jumpship | Issues come and go no matter what you use |
| aquarius_ | by me it's been quite persistent my friend |
| drvodka | so i tend to have to do a lot of massaging in aptitude to not have broken packages |
| aquarius_ | you remember yourself |
| rzs19 | i like the display of the arch boot process its clearer than debians |
| drvodka | i'm trying to massage amarok-trinity right now |
| aquarius_ | is it possible to install proprietary drivers for my audio? |
| aquarius_ | cause i dunno even what my audio is. |
| drvodka | this is much easier than when i was still using kde3 from lenny while mostly in squeeze/wheezy |
| jumpship | I pretty much stick to stable, odd little bits from testing or sid, depending on how long it's been since release |
| jumpship | Are proprietary driver for your sound available? |
| aquarius_ | no clue |
| aquarius_ | all i know it's ATI HDA.. |
| drvodka | perhaps you need the firmware packages from non-free? lots of the old blobs in debian are now removed from the kernel and put in non-free |
| jumpship | Intel HDA? |
| aquarius_ | yeah.. but i think Alsa covers it up |
| aquarius_ | so unless your kernel is up-to-date you'd have troubles. |
| aquarius_ | so bummer. I can't manually update it. |
| jumpship | Thats the real problem with all audio on linux, alsa's a mess, and everyone and the grandma is trying to fix it without fixing it |
| aquarius_ | yeah, but does anyone have the same prob i have? |
| aquarius_ | i guess not |
| drvodka | hey i've got an idea, let's make a whole new audio subsystem that's even worse rather than fixing the old ones! |
| aquarius_ | hah |
| jumpship | I think your problem is a mix of a lot of things at once |
| aquarius_ | well yeah, but on Ubuntu it's alright. How about that? |
| aquarius_ | that's why i hate it even more! It works! |
| aquarius_ | :) |
| Z_God | aquarius_: what problem do you have? |
| aquarius_ | hey Z_God |
| jumpship | They've put a lot of work into pulse I bet |
| aquarius_ | didn't i tell you? |
| Z_God | I don't remember |
| aquarius_ | pulse is also out of date in Squeeze |
| Z_God | but you wrote you had an alsa problem |
| aquarius_ | you can't upgrade it unless your kernel is newer |
| aquarius_ | no, it's not only that. It's overall audio prob with old kernel i think. My audio requires the 3rd one probably. |
| Z_God | pulse depends on a special kernel version?? |
| Z_God | are you using ubuntu or debian? |
| aquarius_ | i guess so, because in Ubuntu it's Pulse 1.x or something and in debian it's 0.x |
| aquarius_ | right now Ubuntu, but just for experiment |
| Z_God | you can install newer kernels through a ppa |
| aquarius_ | how much newer? :) |
| Z_God | for debian, installing a newer kernel should work as well |
| Z_God | dunno, I suggest looking it up ;) |
| aquarius_ | i know, however by the way we with jumpship were fidgeting with sound i didn't know that |
| aquarius_ | by the time* |
| aquarius_ | well yeah, i'll try it. |
| Z_God | this is the easiest in general |
| aquarius_ | sure... we'll see. |
| drvodka | why use pulseaudio? i tried it once a while back, and it didn't work for me, but i don't really understand any advantage |
| MobileTurkey | pulse audio has some advantages. |
| MobileTurkey | (arguable ones) |
| * Z_God never tried it either | |
| aquarius_ | it works for me, but not much better. The effect is.... it routes the sound a tiny bit better but it "swallows" some signals |
| gcsimon | pulseaudio has network support |
| aquarius_ | in latest ubuntu PA works flawlessly. |
| Z_God | gcsimon: yeah that is cool |
| aquarius_ | older versions suck. |
| MobileTurkey | per application volume control, networking, lowish latency |
| aquarius_ | that's the difference. |
| MobileTurkey | multi soundcards, bluetooth audio, equalization |
| drvodka | oh yeah, that per application volume control was pretty cool actually |
| MobileTurkey | sample conversion |
| MobileTurkey | all things that I am almost sure alsa and jackd can do.. |
| Z_God | alsa has a bluetooth module |
| aquarius_ | Alsa works for some people too. |
| aquarius_ | i know one guy, he installed slackware. No PA. Only Alsa. No probs. |
| Z_God | and I don't know what multi soundscards means |
| drvodka | i only use alsa here on debian, never any sound issues |
| Z_God | I use multiple devices as well with plain alsa |
| aquarius_ | so... guys.. it's all very confusing, all i know that in order to get rid of the most probs we have to get the freshest kernels possible. |
| drvodka | the only special thing i want is low latency, but the latency is not bad enough to really worry about |
| drvodka | there aren't really enough good music production programs anyway so i do most of that on a windows box still |
| aquarius_ | drvodka, what audio do you have? |
| drvodka | alsa, and a soundblaster 5.1 digital something something card |
| aquarius_ | ahh.. well that explains it |
| jumpship | with the emu10k or whatever it's called? |
| MobileTurkey | drvodka: into production? |
| MobileTurkey | me too :) |
| aquarius_ | i have Intel HDA and it gives me hard times. |
| MobileTurkey | but seriously linux has TON of stuff |
| rzs19 | pulseaudioworks over network, or couldwork over network. |
| MobileTurkey | jackd does it nicely |
| drvodka | MobileTurkey: yeah, just a hobby really, i'm still using reason 2 on XP mostly |
| Z_God | aquarius_: what is the problem you have? |
| MobileTurkey | check out ardour (3 is in beta with midi editing and awesome new stuff) |
| gcsimon | aquarius_: but intel HDA ist well supported amoung newer kernels |
| aquarius_ | the thing is, nobody could help me fixing my prob :) Nobody even knows about it. |
| Z_God | normally you don't need a new kernel |
| MobileTurkey | then some plgunis and a synth? it's awesome. |
| gcsimon | aquarius_: never had trouble with it on my boxes |
| aquarius_ | gcsimon, yeah, and that means i have to use Ubuntu. But i don't wanna :) |
| aquarius_ | Z_God, ok.. here goes |
| gcsimon | aquarius_: i used opensuse 9.x to 10.4 before |
| aquarius_ | Z_God, playback gets muted/run over by some particular apps |
| gcsimon | aquarius_: what kerbel version do you have? |
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| Z_God | aquarius_: what apps? |
| Z_God | what happens exactly? |
| aquarius_ | gcsimon, right now i'm on Ubuntu, but on Debian i had just the base one, 2.6.32 |
| aquarius_ | Z_God, many, but those that i tried were Skype, Wine and Audacity |
| gcsimon | aquarius_: thats recent enough for intel hda. |
| aquarius_ | Z_God, they just jamm the sound if any other playback on. |
| aquarius_ | gcsimon, what do you mean? |
| Z_God | aquarius_: the problem is that you're not using dmix for those apps |
| aquarius_ | Z_God, for example i'm playing music, alright? And without switching it off i run skype and it just cuts it off |
| Z_God | you need to set all apps to the default device |
| gcsimon | aquarius_: intel hda should be well supported with kernel 2.6.32 |
| aquarius_ | Z_God, , someone has told me that already, but i dunno how to use dmix |
| Z_God | in those programs set your device to "default" |
| Z_God | and it will use dmix |
| drvodka | in a lot of programs it has an output setting, it will probably be at "default" now |
| aquarius_ | gcsimon, well it's not apparently. At least not without some extra settings, some asoundrc.conf stuff etc etc etc |
| Z_God | do not set it to smth like hw:0,0 |
| drvodka | but default isn't always dmix |
| aquarius_ | Z_God, well.. actually it was hw:0,0 exactly. |
| MobileTurkey | dmix is grea t:) |
| Z_God | drvodka: it is when your card needs it |
| Z_God | aquarius_: that's the problem then |
| jumpship | I never got dmix to work automatically either, Intel HDA here too, but dmix does work, but had to set it up manually |
| aquarius_ | Z_God, well, what else do i write down there? |
| Z_God | if you set one app to use hw:0,0 it will block all other apps & dmix from using it |
| aquarius_ | hw:0,1? hw:0,2? maybe.. hw:0,2042042+E? |
| gcsimon | aquarius_: well i have NO IDEA of what yast did to the config files, but it always works out of the box |
| Z_God | use default instead |
| aquarius_ | gcsimon, that's the thing, it never worked "out of the box" |
| drvodka | some other programs i hav to set too, liek mplayer always wants to try oss first, and if it gets it, it locks audio for other apps, so i have to set -ao alsa |
| aquarius_ | sorry about that, but it just didn't. |
| aquarius_ | always same shit |
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| aquarius_ | Wine always jamms everything, and you can't do much settings in it. |
| Z_God | don't use oss basically |
| drvodka | in winecfg there is a setting for alsa too, i've had to set that also |
| aquarius_ | should i be worried about every goddamn app? |
| Z_God | configure your apps to use alsa |
| aquarius_ | ah.. |
| aquarius_ | i see. |
| Z_God | ubuntu disables oss in newer versions now |
| aquarius_ | ok then.. i'll get one more time on Debian... |
| Z_God | you can also unload oss in debian |
| aquarius_ | Z_God, listen.. when i get back could you help me out a bit? |
| Z_God | aquarius_: a newer kernel won't help you at all |
| Z_God | sure |
| gcsimon | aquarius_: are there truly apps out, that still use OSS? |
| aquarius_ | Z_God, alright... thanks for letting know |
| drvodka | gmm, Z_God that sounds a good plan actually, could i just add snd_pcm_oss to my blacklist? |
| Z_God | gcsimon: almost all, there's only ALSA on linux |
| aquarius_ | gcsimon, i dunno, but looking at my prob apparently there are. |
| Z_God | drvodka: yes but I think there's actually a line that loads it |
| aquarius_ | Debian.. here i come |
| aquarius_ | :) |
| aquarius_ | but first... |
| aquarius_ | damn... i feel like shit.... got some f..ng flu.. |
| aquarius_ | bbl... |
| gcsimon | aquarius_: if you need a config file, maybe i can grad one from my suse box |
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| feindbild | MobileTurkey: hi :) aren't you the arch guy? ^^ |
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| rzs19 | bye, cu all later :) |
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| aquarius_ | i'm back |
| aquarius_ | are you guys still there? |
| aquarius_ | Z_God |
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| Z_God | yes |
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| s15y | Hi, having a problem after an upgrade 3.5.12->3.5.13 : konsole: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv |
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| Xu_R | !seen kb9vqf |
| tbottu | Xu_R: kb9vqf was last seen in #trinity-desktop 19 hours, 5 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <kb9vqf> bad design on KDE4's part unfortunately |
| Xu_R | !tell |
| tbottu | Xu_R: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here. |
| Xu_R | !help |
| tbottu | Xu_R: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| Xu_R | !list |
| tbottu | Xu_R: Admin, Bugzilla, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Misc, Network, Note, Owner, Protector, Seen, Services, and User |
| Xu_R | ...how do I queue a message for kb9vqf... |
| Xu_R | oh wait. |
| Xu_R | memoserv |
| Xu_R | *facepalm* |
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| Damiano | hey |
| Damiano | anyone alive? |
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| gcsimon | s15y: if you still have that unresolved symbol problem: you prob. need to install qt3-libs (for some reason they are not atomatically installed) |
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| K`zan | Something ate my /boot today, still trying to patch things up... |
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| Damiano | anyone there? |
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| s15y | thanks to gcsimon, but that did not work (or I missed the exact qt3 library to install). |
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| MutantTurkey | anyone getting crashes with our gtk-qt-engine and nm-applet? |
| MutantTurkey | starting to think we need a "integration" section on the bug tracker. |
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| s15y | gcsimon: thanks for your advice. Unfortunately I was not able to find the library having the symbol and I'm back to 3.5.12. |
| _Pete_ | hi |
| _Pete_ | I have wierd problem |
| _Pete_ | after trinity install on ubuntu 11.10 64bit the 32bit binaries dont work anymore |
| _Pete_ | ia32-libs is installed |
| _Pete_ | any clue what might be wrong? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 607 filed by ignaz.forster@gmx.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=607 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kicker doesn't show windows with size <= 5 pixels |
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| MutantTurkey | sup schreiberstein |
| schreiberstein | Hi MutantTurkey! I'm fine and I'll go to a big opensource convention in germany tomorrow... and you? |
| MutantTurkey | very cool! |
| MutantTurkey | good, today is friday, I am going to a concert this evening |
| schreiberstein | which band/artist? |
| MutantTurkey | The Deer Hunter and Manchester Orchestra (not an actual orchestra |
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| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: hey, you remember the wine thing I ranted yesterday? |
| MutantTurkey | eh |
| MutantTurkey | nope |
| MutantTurkey | oh wait maybe |
| MutantTurkey | sorry terrible memory + been reading about wine all day. |
| MutantTurkey | trying to get my age of empires to play :P |
| _Pete_ | 17:16 < MobileTurkey> _Pete_: is that possible? maybe your path is wrong, or wine is installed somewhere else. |
| MutantTurkey | is it so/ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| _Pete_ | well |
| MutantTurkey | did you do what i suggested? |
| _Pete_ | whhen I did dig it deeper |
| MutantTurkey | go on... |
| _Pete_ | looks like after installing trinity |
| _Pete_ | to my 64bit machine |
| _Pete_ | the 32bit programs wont run anymore |
| MutantTurkey | well they normally wouldn't |
| MutantTurkey | unless you had the compatabilty libraries |
| _Pete_ | yes I do |
| MutantTurkey | (I know archlinux makes this easy - not sure elsewhere) |
| _Pete_ | and do before and after |
| MutantTurkey | how do we know it is trinity related? |
| _Pete_ | that is the wierdest bit |
| MutantTurkey | do you have another DE to test? |
| _Pete_ | I know it from that |
| _Pete_ | I have not installed enything than trinity |
| _Pete_ | and before that it worked |
| _Pete_ | after it didnt |
| MutantTurkey | it is possible that during the install it uninstalled some required libraries or installed some bad ones |
| MutantTurkey | what happens if you run a 32bit app from a console? |
| MutantTurkey | tty' |
| _Pete_ | the same |
| MutantTurkey | errors? |
| _Pete_ | it just says file format not eregonzieed |
| _Pete_ | e.g. the system really knows that |
| MutantTurkey | hmmmm |
| MutantTurkey | what distro is this? |
| _Pete_ | ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: I have 32bit apps running well on my boxes |
| MutantTurkey | Ubuntu what version? |
| _Pete_ | latest |
| MutantTurkey | I havent used it |
| MutantTurkey | not sure what to say :x |
| _Pete_ | this is almost as strange as the vuze thing |
| MutantTurkey | no vuze makes sense |
| MutantTurkey | our kgtk wrapper has problems definitely. |
| MutantTurkey | that is a _known_ issue |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully closing many-a-bug this release and hopefully some related to it |
| _Pete_ | I dont consider this a bug |
| _Pete_ | as the only place it can be reproducible is my machine |
| MutantTurkey | can you reproduce it on a VM / other box |
| _Pete_ | not sure |
| _Pete_ | and even tough |
| _Pete_ | virtual machines doesn present the real hw I have |
| MutantTurkey | true |
| MutantTurkey | but if you have a 64bit VM... |
| _Pete_ | http://corei7.serveirc.com/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic |
| _Pete_ | this is exactly what I have |
| MutantTurkey | website sucks. |
| MutantTurkey | is that 8core? |
| _Pete_ | no |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | 4 core + ht? |
| _Pete_ | yes |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
| MutantTurkey | you use dydns? |
| MutantTurkey | LOLOLOL |
| MutantTurkey | http://freedns.afraid.org/ |
| MutantTurkey | I use this, it's quite nice |
| MutantTurkey | though now I get my dns through my provider. |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: though nice stats, what kind of box is it? |
| _Pete_ | its just my home computer |
| MutantTurkey | :) cool |
| MutantTurkey | I really am thinking about investing in a nice server |
| MutantTurkey | but I'd honestly like to get something sparc based, but that'll never happen :P |
| _Pete_ | sparc is cool architehcture |
| MutantTurkey | definitely |
| _Pete_ | oldest one I own is sparcstation 4 |
| MutantTurkey | I am a young'un so i dont have much in the way of old hardware |
| MutantTurkey | my TV is from 87 if that counts :P |
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| _Pete_ | :D |
| _Pete_ | so you must know amiga? |
| MutantTurkey | I know of amiga |
| MutantTurkey | I hear they are making new ones....? |
| _Pete_ | yess |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_AboutAmiga.aspx |
| _Pete_ | but I used to use one untiöl so late |
| _Pete_ | that 1998 |
| MutantTurkey | 1998 i barely remember:P |
| _Pete_ | then you are surprised |
| _Pete_ | that I first got my internet acceess |
| MutantTurkey | hehe |
| _Pete_ | about around 1989 |
| MutantTurkey | 1989 yeesh |
| MutantTurkey | <btw debugging kickoff sucks> |
| _Pete_ | I am born in 1972 |
| _Pete_ | and have one child |
| MutantTurkey | who is probably as old as I am... |
| _Pete_ | which unfortunatelly is still not as linux guru as I am |
| _Pete_ | ... he is 7 years old |
| MutantTurkey | ah :P |
| MutantTurkey | well then I am older than at least somebody! |
| _Pete_ | well anyway |
| _Pete_ | I dont think this comes to age |
| _Pete_ | but to attitude |
| MutantTurkey | what sort of attitude? |
| MutantTurkey | being to serious can be bad, being to mean can be bad, being to friendly and annoying can be bad. being over zealous can be bad as well as over confidence. |
| MutantTurkey | All things must be done in moderation. |
| MutantTurkey | </wisemanoncesaid> |
| * Strangelv could feel older than he does listening to this conversation. HE's not much older than _Pete_ | |
| MutantTurkey | lol :p |
| _Pete_ | good point |
| Strangelv | If I'd better understood what someone was telling me about, I could have had a .mil email address in 1990 |
| * MutantTurkey have had gmail started in beta | |
| MutantTurkey | but wayy back in beta. |
| MutantTurkey | friends dad had hookups with google or something, rich indian kid. very nice family. mom made great curry |
| * MutantTurkey now is craving indian food. | |
| MutantTurkey | >_> |
| * Strangelv hands MutantTurkey an Amy's Kitchen Mattar Paneer frozen entree | |
| * _Pete_ thinks gordon ramsey is best chef | |
| * Xu_R is eating ramen | |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R:yeah I am craving some cup o noodles |
| Xu_R | :P |
| * Strangelv misses being abel to get away with pasta. He's not sure what teh problem is, but he's suspecting the gluten | |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: probably the gluten |
| Strangelv | "I've yet to find a rice pasta I've been abel to consistently drain before it turns to mush, and anything that's predominantly corn just doesn't wokr at any level even if |
| Strangelv | I can drain it befoer it completely dissolves |
| MutantTurkey | found cup of noodles in closet - legit |
| * Strangelv files a trouble ticket on quinoa pasta at bugs.trinitydesktop.org | |
| _Pete_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4rKduXPC-8 |
| Xu_R | xD |
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| MutantTurkey | daylights savings is totally messing with my mind |
| Strangelv | "It's very effective at that if you're in tune to a 24 hour day |
| * Strangelv points to a pathologically cheerful authority figure eccstatically declaring a few short months from now, "It's Spring Forward Time!" | |
| MutantTurkey | my day is terribly inconsistant |
| MutantTurkey | 2 days a week i sleep in till noon, 2 days I am up at 7, another day at 5:30 and the weekends are always different |
| Strangelv | I rotate forwards |
| Strangelv | The rate is less consistent than it used to be and has slowed down over the years |
| Strangelv | Once upon oa time I would have been a good candidate for https://www.xkcd.com/320/ |
| MutantTurkey | ilya, slap. |
| MutantTurkey | was thinking that earlier |
| tbottu | 10neptunia@mail.ru changed the Status on bug 521 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=521 normal, P5, ---, anixxsus, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Trinity networking breaks with network-manager 0.9 |
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| Strangelv | "the note at the bottom says 'I am not a Trinity developer. I will not fix it in Trinity.' |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 521 from RESOLVED WONTFIX to REOPENED. |
| Xu_R | I know |
| Xu_R | wtf. |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| * Strangelv claps | |
| * MutantTurkey golf clap | |
| Xu_R | you go tim! :D |
| MutantTurkey | wait good news |
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| l0ner | hello |
| MutantTurkey | hey l0ner |
| MutantTurkey | whats up doode |
| l0ner | not much |
| l0ner | i'm trying to compile arts |
| MutantTurkey | and? |
| l0ner | for now nothing, i just started my vm |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| l0ner | but i know it will fail |
| l0ner | i'm getting this kind of feeling |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Component on bug 583 from kdelibs to debian. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 583 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=583 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [kdelibs] startkde fails because of undefined symbol _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv |
| l0ner | cmake: libltdl not found |
| l0ner | i knew it |
| l0ner | same err as i got prevoius time |
| l0ner | time to fill bugreport |
| l0ner | and send mail to maillist |
| MutantTurkey | do you have it intsalled? |
| l0ner | nope |
| MutantTurkey | install it then... |
| l0ner | clean arch vm |
| MutantTurkey | install libltdl then? |
| MutantTurkey | seems self evident |
| l0ner | oh, libltdl is present in system |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| l0ner | look at the end of cmakelists for arts |
| l0ner | and you'll get it |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | it seems libltdl was some part of arts |
| MutantTurkey | let me see |
| MutantTurkey | then how have compiled it succesfully? |
| l0ner | it first line of project subdirsin cmakelists |
| l0ner | not compiled at all |
| l0ner | i have libltdl form packman |
| l0ner | but i don't think it's the same thing |
| l0ner | afk |
| MutantTurkey | I see it |
| MutantTurkey | not sure |
| MutantTurkey | what is the error you get? pastebin please |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/506509/ |
| l0ner | cmake output |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | remove the line add_subdirectory that references it |
| l0ner | did |
| l0ner | and got compilation errors |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/504813/ |
| l0ner | showed this to samelian couple days ago |
| l0ner | he said the make errors are related |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| MutantTurkey | I dont understand |
| MutantTurkey | does that directory exist? |
| l0ner | nope |
| l0ner | and i removed old trinity code i pulled form svn |
| l0ner | so i can't checkif it existed before |
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| l0ner | samelian: remember my problems with compiling arts? |
| samelian | l0ner: I supose :) |
| samelian | why? |
| l0ner | i found trinity code i pulled from svn just before freeze |
| l0ner | and there in arts dir i found libltdl |
| l0ner | which is missing right now both from svn and git |
| l0ner | i put it back in arts and compiling went just fine |
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| l0ner | later I'll gzip it and send to dev maillist with explanations |
| Qu4Z | What's the latest update re: trinity on gentoo? Is it still "Follow the build from source instructions on the wiki"? |
| Xu_R | samelian: it's been a while since I had time to package... |
| Xu_R | samelian: we do NOT use -DCMAKE_SKIP_RPATH=ON, right? |
| samelian | Xu_R: right, at least in packages wich compile generators needed for building |
| Xu_R | ok |
| Xu_R | that's practically everything ported to cmake right now :P |
| samelian | not really, I think CMAKE_SKIP_RPATH should be OFF just in kdelibs and kdebase |
| Xu_R | oh. ok. |
| Xu_R | just those two? |
| samelian | yes |
| Xu_R | ok |
| samelian | Xu_R: read my appeal to for freedom of speech :) |
| Xu_R | saw it :) |
| samelian | I hope my english is good enough, I'm pretty angry now :) |
| Xu_R | hehe |
| Xu_R | it's good, don't worry |
| samelian | I don't care about difference between KDE:KDE3 and Trinity, but censorhip make me very unhappy |
| Xu_R | yea... I can understand... |
| KingSphinx | Censorship? You mean how Trinity's gonna have to rename most of its stuff? |
| Xu_R | o_o? |
| samelian | no, is about ban Ilya |
| l0ner | whats with that? |
| samelian | seems that Tim banned Ilya :) |
| l0ner | for which reason? |
| samelian | hard to say |
| Xu_R | aggrevation to the point of insanity >_> |
| l0ner | uh, i see some heavy talk between them in the mailinglist |
| l0ner | but right now im TLDR |
| Xu_R | at least for me... and that's because I have to witness two mailing lists >_> |
| l0ner | dev and user? |
| samelian | I just ignored the thread |
| Xu_R | no |
| Xu_R | trinity-devel |
| Xu_R | and opensuse-factory |
| l0ner | uh |
| samelian | Ilya maintain KDE3 repo for Suse |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | i'll read the maillist later |
| l0ner | to know what happened |
| samelian | for me seems like a fight between two teenagers |
| samelian | and bigger teenager killed the another one :) |
| l0ner | can't judge right now |
| l0ner | lol |
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| l0ner | i sent message to the dev list |
| samelian | I saw it |
| l0ner | good |
| samelian | at this moment only Tim have commit rights to git repo |
| l0ner | well, so we should wait till he sees it |
| l0ner | can I compile tdelibs without cups support? |
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| tjfriese | I am trying to install Trinity on AMD64 Kubuntu 11.10 and get errors when I apt-get update. Is this a known issue? |
| tjfriese | for example: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-buildeps-v3.5.13/kubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found |
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| Space_Man | looks like tjfriese messed up his / her sources |
| Space_Man | trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13 has 2 d's |
| Space_Man | there isn't a kubuntu release, only a ubuntu or debian version |
| Z_God | Space_Man: kubuntu == ubuntu with a different set of default packages |
| Z_God | and it seems there are still mirror issues somehow |
| Z_God | or not all packages were built correctly |
| Z_God | ah |
| Z_God | I see the mistake |
| Z_God | it seems he also changed the url from ubuntu to kubuntu |
| Z_God | it should always stay ubuntu of course |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 608 filed by iang@austonley.org.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=608 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Debian sudo components have been built with Ubuntu semantics |
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| gvy | hi folks, a probably silly question: after upgrade from 3.5.10 to 3.5.13svn (there was no release at package build time yet) the desktop icons became undraggable |
| gvy | couldn't find the control center knob so far (or google a config file snippet) |
| Z_God | gvy: that should happen |
| Z_God | shouldn't* |
| Z_God | you've built trinity on altlinux? |
| gvy | Z_God, heh, I've moved ~/.kde aside for both users but for one of them, copied .kde/share/apps/kdesktop/IconPositions back and the existing icons were at least on their usual places (which is an issue on 1600x1200 as you might guess :) -- but they're still unmovable (round circle mouse cursor) |
| Z_God | gvy: strange, this is not supposed to happen |
| Z_God | I don't know the default config directory btw when building from sources, most packages seem to be using ~/.trinity |
| gvy | re "on altlinux", yes, it's altlinux package set by Sergey Turchin (zerg@) although he told that he rather moves on and so I consider taking over the packages |
| Z_God | хорошо :) |
| gvy | well, I let the upgraded code reinitalize user configuration hopefully from scratch |
| Z_God | it sounds like a permissions problem to me |
| gvy | erm, repeat pls, changed charset to utf8 :) |
| Z_God | I know that KDE3 would also disable UI when it did not have write permissions to the relevant config files |
| Z_God | я написал: хорошо ;) |
| gvy | а :) |
| gvy | hm, the initialization was done with the target user permissions but thanks for the hint' I'll recheck that |
| Z_God | this is not supposed to happen then... |
| Z_God | gvy: if this does not solve the issue, maybe you could kill the kdesktop process & start it from a konsole |
| Z_God | maybe it will print some errors |
| gvy | ok; the console errors get logged (~/.xsession-errors$DISPLAY) here, so far there wasn't any criminal there to me |
| gvy | maybe strace will tell more |
| Z_God | the permissions are all ok? |
| gvy | lemme check... |
| gvy | ~/.kde for sure, checking the whole homedirs |
| gvy | there are some external symlinks though, and I'll chgrp those .desktop files which belong to one of user's groups but not to his private one just in case (there's no sense in those group perms in the first place) |
| Z_God | I would expect the block to occur of the IconPositions file is readonly |
| Z_God | if* |
| gvy | at least file permissions are 0600 user:user... |
| gvy | well, I'll try strace probably |
| Z_God | gvy: alright, it'll be interesting to hear what causes this... |
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| MutantTurkey | morning all |
| gvy | hi |
| * gvy . o O ( it was 17 o'clock in the morning though ) | |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
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| ZenWalker | hi |
| ZenWalker | trinity desktop is on debian repositories? |
| MutantTurkey | yes :) |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#debian |
| Z_God | gvy: 17 only? where are you located? |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: can you make the meeting on the 15th? |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: I think yes |
| Z_God | we differ 6 hours right? |
| Z_God | it's 16:23 here now |
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| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | that is why I set it in exactly the middle of the day |
| MutantTurkey | its 10:37AM here |
| MutantTurkey | 8 hour difference |
| MutantTurkey | surely 8PM is not to late for you? |
| Z_God | ah then it'll be np :) |
| Z_God | no, I just hoped it would not be after midnight |
| Z_God | Russia is 3 hours ahead of us now, so it will already be 11PM there |
| Z_God | I don't know if there are people located in Asia that would participate? |
| MutantTurkey | I know of none |
| Z_God | I kind of hope Ilya can also participate |
| MutantTurkey | we need to rewrite our "about" section on the website |
| MutantTurkey | make some goal clear |
| MutantTurkey | in light of some recent ML coversation |
| Z_God | I think he could contribute at least some viewpoints |
| Z_God | yes also that |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: if he stops being a brickheaded stubbon person on the subject |
| MutantTurkey | Personally I don't think he's even tried TDE |
| MutantTurkey | that being said he is a immense resource and a valuable asset so I don't want to thow him off the boat |
| Z_God | he seems more rude than he probably is |
| MutantTurkey | I thought so at first |
| Z_God | it's also due to the language barrier |
| MutantTurkey | language barrier, |
| MutantTurkey | but no. |
| MutantTurkey | I thin knot. |
| MutantTurkey | it's always a hostile tone |
| Z_God | this is the difference in language |
| MutantTurkey | and its not the tone as much as he blasphemes trinity on our own mailing lists, promotes his failing KDE:KDE3 repostory |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: I think not, his content is always angry |
| Z_God | yes, this was a clear mistake |
| MutantTurkey | but it's nothing new |
| Z_God | in his initial mail yesterday, he was interested in our reponse to the criticism from the kwin dev, which we had already been working on |
| Z_God | I think he could really contribute there with his viewpoint |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | and api compatibility is not my strongpoint |
| MutantTurkey | BUT this is open source, you need to be respectful |
| Z_God | we should not forget that the TQt makeover is a huge one and it's understandable that some packagers may not immediately want to copt that |
| Z_God | copy* |
| Z_God | especially since so far the advantages are not really visible yet |
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| Z_God | I need to pick up my laundry now, I'll bbl |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: that is why we are privately packaging now... |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R:want to setup the meetbot? |
| gvy | Z_God, .kiev.ua (+0200) |
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| Iguleder | hello |
| Iguleder | I have a question - do I have to subscribe to the mailing lists in order to use them? I have sent a message and I don't see it in the web archive |
| MutantTurkey | you need to be subscribed to send a message |
| MutantTurkey | afaik |
| MutantTurkey | actually almost certainly |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: sure |
| Iguleder | what about write access to the repositories? |
| Iguleder | I'm a distro developer and I'd like to commit my build scripts |
| Xu_R | you ask Tim about that; he controls all access |
| Xu_R | tde-packaging is the only repo not frozen, so you can still commit there :P |
| Iguleder | yeah, I noticed that :) |
| _Pete_ | hi all |
| Iguleder | btw, MutantTurkey - your PKGBUILDs are amazing |
| _Pete_ | so still no idea what has broken my 32bit exes not to run? |
| _Pete_ | I am quite sure it something in trinity |
| Iguleder | ldd them |
| _Pete_ | doesnt help |
| Iguleder | lol, of course it doesn't |
| Iguleder | ldd is useful to reveal missing library problems |
| Iguleder | what binary is it and what exactly did you install? |
| _Pete_ | then why you suggest to use that? |
| Iguleder | because maybe you removed some library and now it doesn't run because of that |
| _Pete_ | ok |
| _Pete_ | but yes the problem is still the same |
| gcsimon | if "ldd -r" shos no problems, the binary should run. ldd "dlopen()"'s it, and that works, the shells should also be able to run them |
| _Pete_ | after installing trinity to ubuntu 11.10 64bit |
| _Pete_ | the 32bit programs dont work any more |
| Iguleder | any 32-bit executable? |
| gcsimon | what error messages to you get? |
| Xu_R | um... that's because of Ubuntu's changes IIRC |
| Xu_R | see their release notes, I do remember seeing mention of removal of 32-bit support |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: thanks :) |
| Xu_R | on 64-bit systems |
| Iguleder | they have that multiarch thingy |
| _Pete_ | gcsimon: like trying to run wine |
| Xu_R | but that was removed in 11.10. I think there's mention in the release notes |
| _Pete_ | $ /usr/bin/winee |
| _Pete_ | bash: /usr/bin/winee: No such file or directory |
| Xu_R | I might be wrong though |
| Iguleder | wasn't multiarch added in the latest version? |
| MutantTurkey | wait new idea |
| gcsimon | ld missing for 32bit |
| MutantTurkey | wait! |
| Iguleder | I remember I read Debian's plans for Wheezy and multiarch was there |
| Xu_R | hm... that's Debian though, not Ubuntu... |
| MutantTurkey | could it have to do with libltdl? |
| Iguleder | Ubuntu inherited that feature |
| gcsimon | there shoudl be a file /lib/ld-xxxx.so |
| Xu_R | is he missing a package for multiarch support? |
| _Pete_ | no |
| Xu_R | that could be another reason |
| Xu_R | oh. |
| gcsimon | he is missing the dynamic linker for 32bit |
| MutantTurkey | libltdl is modified for TDE |
| Iguleder | check whether the loader exists ... lol |
| MutantTurkey | "Libtool provides a small library, called libltdl, that aims at hiding the various difficulties of dlopening libraries from programmers." |
| MutantTurkey | could it be related? |
| gcsimon | dunno |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: what distro are you looking to packaging? |
| Iguleder | isn't libtool used only for dynamic plugin loading? |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: ketsgoo |
| Iguleder | MutantTurkey: Puppy, but I can also help with others |
| gcsimon | but without an dynamic linker (ld)O for 32bit. 32bit apps won't work - except static binaries... |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| _Pete_ | and I still repeat |
| MutantTurkey | cool cool |
| Iguleder | MutantTurkey: I've used Arch, Slackware and others, the only ones I'll have to study thoroughly are DEB-based once, since I'm not a Debian developer :) |
| gcsimon | _Pete: you should have a similary named file in /lib64/ld-xxxxx.so |
| _Pete_ | everything worked fine before trinity install |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: I see. how'd you run across the pkgbuilds? |
| MutantTurkey | AUR? |
| Iguleder | MutantTurkey: I had trouble with kdelibs, so I took a look at yours - I read the Arch wiki and follow the AUR regularly |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | good |
| MutantTurkey | it's not yet commited in tde-packagers though |
| MutantTurkey | cant remember my git password :| LOL |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: i have /lib64/ld-2.11.1.so and /lib/ld-2.11.1.so do your have these files (or similar ones) too? |
| Iguleder | Slackware's SlackBuild's are too complex and somewhat hacky, while yours follow the KISS principle :) |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| MutantTurkey | I try to keep it vanilla. |
| _Pete_ | gcsimon: I have the package ialibs-32 or something |
| MutantTurkey | thats the arch way. |
| Iguleder | same here :) |
| _Pete_ | befpre trinitu it was enough |
| Iguleder | kinda funny that having a 100% vanilla system works better than a rock-solid Debian |
| _Pete_ | not anymore |
| Z_God | gvy: I already though Ukraine :) I'll be in Kharkov next month! |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: that alone doesn't mean the files exist |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: there is a meeting on the 15th at noon EST. could you attend? it's for developers and packagers |
| Iguleder | MutantTurkey: nope, I won't be home, but I'll read the summary |
| _Pete_ | gcsimon: I did apt-get --reinstall install that package |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: i'm not one of the dev's so i don't know ehat exactly happend. but i know enoug to say: without a "ld-xxxx.so" in /lib/ 32bit apps won't work |
| _Pete_ | they sure must exists |
| Iguleder | _Pete_: try to run a static 32-bit binary |
| Iguleder | like cdebootstrap or busybox-static |
| _Pete_ | url? |
| Iguleder | packages.ubuntu.com |
| Iguleder | if this works, it means something about the loader is screwed up ... or maybe, you have no loader :) |
| _Pete_ | what I have tried is |
| _Pete_ | I have vm running 32bit |
| _Pete_ | copied zip exe from that |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: okay, well I suggest you mail into the devel list and announce your willingneso package |
| _Pete_ | it is not working |
| Xu_R | _Pete_: wait, exe? |
| Xu_R | _Pete_: is this a windows executable? |
| _Pete_ | ... |
| _Pete_ | no |
| Iguleder | MutantTurkey: will do :) |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: can you run "ls /lib/ld-*", what is the output? |
| Iguleder | _Pete_: /usr/bin/zip should be dynamically-linked |
| _Pete_ | Iguleder: ok, can you name one binary that is not, which comes with ubuntu ? |
| gcsimon | :D |
| Iguleder | go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for "-static" |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: awesome! welcome aboard comrade |
| Iguleder | I know of cdebootstrap-static and busybox-static |
| Iguleder | MutantTurkey: lol ... thank you :) |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: I am sure this is more of an ubuntu problem then related to trinity :P |
| _Pete_ | ok so to ge this more clear |
| MutantTurkey | which makes me wonder how the install of trinity affected it |
| Iguleder | I still don't get it - why are you afraid to run a static binary? |
| _Pete_ | if I compile simple "hello world" in 32bit |
| MutantTurkey | nothing wrong with static |
| MutantTurkey | http://sta.li |
| Iguleder | your loader could be messed up |
| _Pete_ | os that static or not? |
| Iguleder | that's the first thing to check if the libraries are indeed there |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: a simple hello world app is dynamic linked agains a several libs |
| _Pete_ | ok then |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: c-runtime libs (glibc) for example |
| MutantTurkey | did you read up on the Ubuntu multiarch wikipage? |
| Iguleder | gcc -static is the answer |
| _Pete_ | is there any *simple* way to compile static hello world? |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: unless you tell your compiler (gcc/g++) "-static" |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: simply add "-static" to your gcc/g++ command line you use for compiling |
| Iguleder | #include <stdio.h>\nint main(){ printf("hello world"); return 0; } |
| Iguleder | run gcc -static on this one |
| Iguleder | _Pete_: how do you intend to compile that, btw? are you using some sort of cross-compiler? |
| _Pete_ | As said I have both 32bit and 64bit system running |
| _Pete_ | later is host for other |
| gcsimon | x64 gcc/g++ can cross comile to x86 (-m32 commandline option) |
| _Pete_ | hmm ok |
| _Pete_ | so when I did compile dummy C with 32bit system and -static |
| _Pete_ | it did run on the problem 64bit system |
| Iguleder | now try to omit "-static" |
| Iguleder | if libtool/ld are messed up, it won't run |
| _Pete_ | the c being |
| _Pete_ | $ cat test.c |
| _Pete_ | int main() |
| _Pete_ | { return 0; |
| _Pete_ | } |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: didnt I mention we have a modified version |
| MutantTurkey | of it |
| Iguleder | MutantTurkey: yep, you did |
| _Pete_ | Iguleder: now the some happens |
| _Pete_ | if compiled without -static |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: no such file.... ? |
| _Pete_ | its unknown executable |
| _Pete_ | yes |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: again: what does ls /lib/ld-* shows? |
| Iguleder | do you use a vanilla kernel? |
| Iguleder | maybe it's a 64-bit kernel without IA32 emulation |
| _Pete_ | that' what I said from start |
| _Pete_ | the ialibs is installed |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: sorry must have missed it |
| _Pete_ | and did work fine befire trinity |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: no no not the package, does the file actually exist? could have been deleted |
| _Pete_ | what file ? |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: /lib/ld-* |
| _Pete_ | petria@i7:/pub/tmp$ cd /lib |
| _Pete_ | petria@i7:/lib$ ls -lh | grep ld |
| _Pete_ | petria@i7:/lib$ |
| _Pete_ | yes they are missing |
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| gcsimon | _Pete_: /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 MUST EXIST. if it doesn't screw it. so here the problem lies. |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: no ld for 32bit - no dynamic linked apps for 32bit |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: i don't know which packe provides this file. but you need that file |
| Iguleder | that's why static stuff run, no need for the dynamic loader |
| Iguleder | libc6 should provide it as far as I remember |
| _Pete_ | gcsimon: that is not there |
| Xu_R | this all boils down to a missing package again, probably |
| _Pete_ | and I am pretty sure it vanished during trinity install |
| Iguleder | is it a 32-bit Trinity? |
| _Pete_ | no |
| _Pete_ | 64bit |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: well, whyever it vanished.... one you get ld for 32bit, 32bit apps should work again |
| _Pete_ | ok but this is just wierd |
| Iguleder | could be another wonderful package conflict |
| _Pete_ | did reinstall again |
| _Pete_ | root@i7:/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg -i ./ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu26_amd64.deb |
| _Pete_ | and still after that |
| _Pete_ | 32bit is not working |
| Iguleder | check whether you have ld |
| Xu_R | oh wait a minute |
| Xu_R | is there a /lib32 folder on your system, _Pete_ |
| Xu_R | ? |
| Xu_R | I just decided to lookup that ia32 package you wanted to install... |
| Xu_R | and I get a variety of libraries in /lib32 |
| _Pete_ | Xu_R: yes it is there |
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| damiano_ | hey everyone |
| damiano_ | Z_God, there? |
| Z_God | yes |
| damiano_ | :) |
| damiano_ | i'm back for assistance... |
| damiano_ | but you know what... |
| damiano_ | for some reason this thing dissappeard... |
| damiano_ | i mean.. it seems to be fine now. |
| _Pete_ | Ok I will give up for now |
| damiano_ | i startup skype while playing something - ok. I go to skype sound settings (usually that makes sound shut off) - all fine. |
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| Aquarius | sorry.. it's me :) |
| Z_God | seems good :) |
| Aquarius | yeah... but it's weird. |
| Aquarius | i tried to mess with dmix and stuff but it didn't work so i just disconnected hdd and put it away. |
| Z_God | maybe you got an update, I don't know |
| Aquarius | perhaps.. |
| Aquarius | i also tried openSUSE |
| Aquarius | looks nice, but kinda complicated a bit. |
| Z_God | when things are working at the same time, you're on dmix |
| Aquarius | yeah, but why it didn't work before?! |
| Z_God | dunno |
| Z_God | I have to start cooking now... |
| Z_God | I'll bbl |
| Aquarius | ok man |
| Aquarius | see ya. |
| Z_God | yo |
| Aquarius | man... i would never dare to re-install it... |
| Aquarius | it's fatal |
| Aquarius | if only i knew how i managed to make it work normally.. |
| gvy | then backup the thing |
| gvy | and sleep well |
| gvy | for some value of well |
| Aquarius | exactly |
| Aquarius | that was pricely what i was about to do |
| Aquarius | precisely* |
| Aquarius | now i'm afraid to make any redundant moves) So bad i've been longing for this to happen.. who knows, maybe if i restart it will be all gone ;) |
| Aquarius | but hopefully not. |
| gcsimon | ;-) |
| gcsimon | have faith! |
| Aquarius | doing my best ;) |
| gcsimon | you had this sound-problem, right? |
| gvy | Aquarius, you might have had something trying to grab OSS dsp (it would do that exclusively) |
| gvy | just in case you catch the greedy app, wrapping it with aoss might help :) |
| Aquarius | maybe.... i dunno what i did.. i tried to force dmix.. but it didn't help |
| Aquarius | skype uses now "default" device anyway |
| Aquarius | all of those are marked as "default" as initially it was. |
| Aquarius | but it works though differently now. |
| Aquarius | let me check for any .conf leftovers.. maybe i didn't delete everything.. |
| gvy | I'd do something like lsof | grep /dev/snd/ or fuser -vv /dev/dsp |
| gvy | but that's rather alsa-specific, not tde-specific... |
| Xu_R | _Pete_: IIRC ia32-libs only work for existing programs packaged for ubuntu |
| Xu_R | there is no multilib anymore. |
| Xu_R | so there is no way to run 32-bit programs on Ubuntu :| |
| Aquarius | i'm not using TDE for a while. |
| Xu_R | (at least, dynamically) |
| _Pete_ | Xu_R: wtf ? |
| Xu_R | _Pete_: well, they don't provide a 32-bit ld for x86_64 now, so there is no way. |
| Xu_R | bbiab, people |
| gcsimon | i might be mistaken, but is wine not 32bit-only program? |
| gcsimon | would mean wine will never work on 64bit ubuntu? |
| gcsimon | ähm. wait. I have a 32bit ld on my 64bit ubuntu box! |
| gcsimon | is there a way i can find out which package provided it? |
| _Pete_ | yes it is |
| gcsimon | but this package would be the one _Pete_ needs |
| _Pete_ | and that is why I noticed this in first place |
| gcsimon | how? |
| gcsimon | how do i find the package (i'm new to apt and synapic) |
| jumpship | look into apt-file or apt-cache to find out which pkg a file belongs to |
| _Pete_ | well, I am game addicted |
| _Pete_ | like to play LFS and GT5 |
| _Pete_ | but first wont work withouth wine |
| Iguleder | I like to play Linux from Scratch :) |
| _Pete_ | that's good optiotn too :) |
| gcsimon | were do i find these files? (really completly new to apt) |
| jumpship | um... on sec, been a while |
| _Pete_ | files installedd |
| _Pete_ | or files in package? |
| gcsimon | i keep a windows arround box here... just in case.... ;-) |
| jumpship | try "dpkg -S <file>" |
| gcsimon | root@ws-trinity:~# dpkg -S /lib/ld-2.11.1.so |
| gcsimon | libc6: /lib/ld-2.11.1.so |
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| gcsimon | it's an ubuntu-server LTS by the way |
| _Pete_ | so what are you suggesting? |
| gcsimon | i assume libc6 is installed? |
| _Pete_ | for some reason yet unknown |
| _Pete_ | the abowsé command yield no result |
| gcsimon | so... libc6 is not installed? |
| _Pete_ | I am very uncertaub to think that |
| _Pete_ | as said |
| _Pete_ | everything did work |
| _Pete_ | before trinity |
| gcsimon | can you force an reinstall of libc6? if so, do it. maybe it will fix the missing files |
| _Pete_ | yes that can be tried |
| _Pete_ | but I am guite sure |
| _Pete_ | problem is somewhere else |
| jumpship | could try here: |
| jumpship | http://packages.ubuntu.com/ |
| _Pete_ | one thing is |
| _Pete_ | I have not booted the machine |
| _Pete_ | as it should not |
| _Pete_ | but that would be no problem |
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| gcsimon | dunno. maybe it won't boot again - with a missing ld-x86.... |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: any progress on the 32bit issue? |
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| _Pete_ | this system has been booting fine since it was installed X years ago |
| gcsimon | ld 32bit is missing, thats for sure. libc6 provides it. i think _Pete_ should try reinstalling libc6 |
| _Pete_ | I see no reason trinity desktop would break that |
| gcsimon | well i wouldn't know that. trinity is quite complex. many packages involved and possibly others affected. maybe apt considered that the file is no longer required, and removed it. i don't know. i used suse and yast before, and i was in constant warfare with rpm and package management. |
| Iguleder | no ld :) |
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| Iguleder | btw, is there any work being done to remove Trinity's dependency on HAL? |
| Iguleder | I was thinking, maybe a library could be written to provide hardware abstraction with two backends, HAL and udev - much like tqtinterface |
| _Pete_ | why is this needed ? |
| _Pete_ | for me, this is purely pro guestion |
| _Pete_ | I have been doing linux dev for many yaears |
| _Pete_ | but stilll to come kde3 is best UI |
| Iguleder | MutantTurkey: do you remember what Trinity packages depend on HAL? |
| Z_God | _Pete_: you cannot not have libc6 and be using that system ;) |
| Z_God | not having it would break pretty much every program |
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| MutantTurkey | Fat-Zer_: l0ner: samelian: Strangelv: We are having a meeting November 15th at 12pm (noon) EST. |
| MutantTurkey | can any of it make it? |
| l0ner | i can |
| l0ner | as for now |
| MutantTurkey | awesome! |
| l0ner | :) |
| MutantTurkey | check out the etherpad page about it |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/15 |
| l0ner | ok, looking at it now |
| MutantTurkey | do you have an account? |
| l0ner | unfortunately nope |
| Xu_R | the request an account link should work |
| l0ner | requested :) |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: does darrell anderson have a IRC nick? |
| Xu_R | no, he doesn't :| |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
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| Xu_R | ... |
| Xu_R | oh wow, my xchat just reconnected >>;; |
| l0ner | don't know anything about xchat |
| l0ner | I use konversation |
| Xu_R | oic :P |
| l0ner | i prefer using apps from kde3/trinity rather than other ones |
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| Fat-Zer | MutantTurkey: sorry, I can't. I even not sure that i'll will visit it... btw i'm not looked into the trinity since release... |
| Aquarius | ok, i'm back |
| Aquarius | can anyone tell me why VLC refuses to be my default multimedia player? |
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| Aquarius | i mean.. i've associated it with multimedia formats in "Open with..." thing, but it ignores and uses Totem instead. |
| l0ner | try removing totem |
| l0ner | from what I remember totem is pretty unusable |
| Aquarius | hm... |
| Aquarius | ok... |
| KingSphinx | Totem's not so bad... in its native environment (GNOME). Otherwise, it's pretty terrible. |
| Aquarius | and you think that'd force vlc to become default player? |
| l0ner | maybe, it's worth trying |
| Aquarius | yeah, it's not that bad, but a bit uncomfortable. And i find VLC prettier a bit. |
| Aquarius | i'd like to leave it there actually. |
| l0ner | maybe you have some part of gonme on which totem is based sealing requests to use vlc |
| l0ner | *stealing |
| Aquarius | maybe, but i've checked all the places and preffered applications and stuff... still ignores it. |
| Aquarius | dunno.. |
| l0ner | I used totem once, it didn't had features i needed (like multi audio, or subs) and I moved to smplayer |
| KingSphinx | SMPlayer is the exact opposite for me (won't play anything right). |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | anyway check trinity control center -> kde components -> file associations |
| l0ner | search for formats you want and check if vlc is on the top of the list |
| Aquarius | the thing is.. i'm not using Trinity at the moment. |
| Aquarius | i'm on gnome. |
| KingSphinx | And can anyone explain how Fedora's version of KDE 4 is rock-solid and relatively light, yet Kubuntu is not only a RAM hog, but reliably crashes upon shutdown? |
| l0ner | well, it depends on how the package was built |
| l0ner | optimizations and so on |
| Aquarius | KingSphinx, well, because KDE looks (and apparently feels) different on different distributes of linux |
| Aquarius | anyway... i don't like KDE4... it looks ugly at the very least. |
| l0ner | I had it on gentoo and it felt like different de than on ubuntu |
| KingSphinx | From what I can tell, there's no difference in the "Verne" theme and the defailt "Air" theme other than the name. |
| KingSphinx | And the wallpaper, though that's obvious. |
| l0ner | Aquarius: agree, by defaults it reassembles too much vista for me, with it's default colors |
| l0ner | yep, I think it's ugly and not so flexible in customization |
| KingSphinx | I actually don't mind it, I can actually use the transparency as an indicator as to whether desktop effects are working (none = not working) |
| l0ner | it was pointed to me that it's easier to write themes for kde4 than it was i kde3 |
| l0ner | but in kde3 i culd change colors for the theme as i wanted |
| l0ner | in kde4 it's not possible |
| KingSphinx | That reminds me, I need to add the Fedora Trinity repos. |
| l0ner | the only thing i liked in kde4 was window change animation |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: mind if i remove that irrelevant convo ? |
| Xu_R | go ahead |
| Z_God | it seemed like the pad itself because a chatbox :P |
| Z_God | became* |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | I has become something between chat and forum |
| l0ner | *it |
| Z_God | maybe just create a pad for chatting instead of the channel? |
| l0ner | lol, IRC->pad migration? |
| Z_God | it would also give automatic chatlogs |
| Z_God | yeah :D |
| Z_God | and you can change other people's stuff ;) |
| l0ner | lol xD |
| MutantTurkey | well guys I gotta go. |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: see you! |
| l0ner | cyq |
| MutantTurkey | keep up the progress on the etherpad :) |
| l0ner | *cya |
| MutantTurkey | getting excited for the meetin |
| Xu_R | later calvin :) |
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| ZenWalker | Can I install trinity on debian wheezy? |
| Space_Man | ZenWalker: probably, but you will have to use the instructions http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#debian for Lenny or Squeeze |
| Space_Man | Lenny is 3.5.12 and Squeeze is 3.5.13 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 609 filed by sysoevd@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=609 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, konqueror: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkparts.so.2 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 609 as a duplicate of bug 583. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=583 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [kdelibs] startkde fails because of undefined symbol _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv |
| l0ner | ok, i still can't compile tdelibs on arch |
| Space_Man | use ubuntu, it's designed for idiots :P |
| l0ner | well, that is whay i don't use it :P |
| l0ner | *why |
| l0ner | i tried building code form git, svn and tarballs |
| l0ner | same error |
| ZenWalker | Space_Man: dependency problems |
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| Aquarius | hey :) |
| Aquarius | anyone there? |
| l0ner | hello |
| Aquarius | oh goodie |
| l0ner | I'm here, but I'm thinking about going to get some sleep |
| Aquarius | could you tell me how to change session manager resolution? Cause it's other than my desktop's one. |
| Aquarius | well.. that's a good thing to think on |
| l0ner | session manager? You mean kdm? |
| l0ner | or the you mean resoultion you get at boot? |
| Aquarius | gdm in my case |
| Aquarius | kdm in Trinity changes res respectivelly actually. |
| l0ner | uh, I think it gets resoultion form xorg.conf |
| Aquarius | hm... |
| Aquarius | shall i look it up? |
| l0ner | which should detect it automaticlyy |
| Aquarius | i mean.. would it be clear to me what to setup there? |
| Aquarius | well, it doesn't. I mean, it detects it, but doesn't change the res for gdm |
| l0ner | nope, it's better not to look or touch xorg.conf |
| Aquarius | strangely though. |
| Aquarius | i see. |
| Aquarius | maybe i have to run ATI control center... |
| Aquarius | but i can't, it requires root privilege... i forgot how i launched it from Terminal.. |
| l0ner | or try runiinig Xorg -configure, backuping old xorg.conf and using one generated |
| Aquarius | ok... let's see... |
| Aquarius | Fatal server error: |
| Aquarius | Server is already active for display 0 |
| l0ner | ok, you need to move to tty, log in, kill gdm, and then do all the magic |
| Aquarius | damn... |
| Aquarius | i wish it was less sophisticated)) |
| l0ner | and I'm not sure if it will work |
| l0ner | yeah, unfortunately it's xorg |
| Aquarius | well... let's postpone it then... |
| l0ner | that it's compicated |
| Aquarius | actually.. many things are kinda nasty in linux ;) |
| Aquarius | but that's its beauty for some i guess. |
| l0ner | many thing are outdated or too complicated |
| Aquarius | yep. |
| Aquarius | let alone audio... now i agree on that... it's MESS |
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| Aquarius | Multi Error Sound Sequencer |
| Aquarius | M.E.S.S. |
| l0ner | alsa right now is ok, but how it handled, or rather how distro creators can't understand how it works |
| Aquarius | right here it's also ok, but as i said before, i dunno what fixed it. |
| Aquarius | and neither i wanna reproduce it |
| Aquarius | hell NO.... |
| Aquarius | actually PA in latest Ubuntu is also fine. |
| l0ner | pulseaudio pointed what was broken in alsa, broken dirvers and so on |
| Aquarius | yeah, but it brought other probs |
| l0ner | like? |
| l0ner | the main problem whit pulseaudio is that people don't quite understand how it should be used |
| l0ner | and install both alsa-tools and pulseaudio |
| l0ner | and since alsa-tools provide alsa-mixer, which is not only volume control center but is actually a sound mixer |
| Aquarius | well... for example, with PA audio acted funny. Initially! In most linux based OSs... firstly, i couldn't host conferences in skype, it was stuttering badly. |
| Aquarius | secondly, it tends to "swallow" some portions of sound sequence in java |
| l0ner | skype for linux i pretty outdated and uses obscure audio output |
| Aquarius | it didn't route streams normally either. |
| Aquarius | well now it's ok! |
| enderw | i get a not-found error for the repository update in ubuntu oneeric.anyone? |
| l0ner | maybe ubuntu devs did some hack magic |
| Aquarius | probably. |
| Aquarius | actually, PA in Ubuntu is also latest version |
| Aquarius | in Debian it's 0.9 in Ubuntu it's 1.x or even 2... can't quite remember. |
| l0ner | maybe latest pa contains some fixes |
| Aquarius | yeah, that's what i think too. |
| l0ner | actually i dont use pa right now |
| l0ner | pure arts |
| Aquarius | well.. eventually you will |
| Aquarius | but don't you worry, you'll get no probs. |
| l0ner | i hope, with time that arts which is a mess will be replaced with something better |
| Aquarius | for example, i'll have to use it too, 'cause next Debian wheeze is gonna be implemented with PA anyways. |
| Aquarius | wheezy* |
| l0ner | either pulse audio for mixer part, or something new |
| l0ner | i don't use binary distros |
| l0ner | for me it's either gentoo or arch |
| Aquarius | PA is improving, so one day people will forget about its former issues. |
| l0ner | in which i have more control on which my system use |
| l0ner | let's hope so |
| Aquarius | they just supplied linux with it a bit too early. |
| Aquarius | while it was at experimental stage |
| l0ner | nah, distros decided to include it too early |
| l0ner | not even distros |
| l0ner | ubuntu |
| Aquarius | well yeah, either ways |
| l0ner | which includes sometimes beta software as stable |
| enderw | is there a release yet for oneiric? |
| Aquarius | of what? |
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| enderw | trinity 3.5.13 |
| Aquarius | yes |
| Aquarius | and i've even tried it out. |
| Aquarius | on oneiric. But... had some glitches. |
| Aquarius | kicker had some crash issue. |
| Aquarius | but it's me. however, proceed with caution. |
| Aquarius | install it only if you're sure that in mean case you can remove it painlessly. |
| Aquarius | 3.5.13 has been reported unstable a bit... dunno if they've fixed it yet or not... |
| enderw | ok, thanks. |
| Aquarius | i wonder what makes Wine work properly on Debian.. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 610 filed by debian@markus-raab.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=610 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ktorrent (from kde4) crashes when started within trinity |
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| tbottu | 10iang@austonley.org.uk changed the Status on bug 608 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=608 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Debian sudo components have been built with Ubuntu semantics |
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| Aquarius | hey everyone |
| l0ner | hello |
| Aquarius | hey man |
| Aquarius | hm. |
| l0ner | maintenance |
| Aquarius | l0ner, are you using TDE right now? |
| l0ner | nope, I'm using kde3.5.10 from kdemod3 on arch |
| Aquarius | hmm.. how's that? |
| l0ner | and I'm struggling to build tde |
| l0ner | hell |
| Aquarius | ah.. i see :) |
| l0ner | kdemod3 is hell |
| l0ner | nothing works as it shold |
| Aquarius | i see |
| l0ner | I can't configure most of my desktop because kcontrol broke |
| Aquarius | well.. seems like you enjoy solving problems ;) |
| l0ner | and kmail isn't sending mails |
| Aquarius | i hear ya |
| Aquarius | is arch fast? |
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| Aquarius | oh no... |
| Aquarius | here it comes... |
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| Aquarius | so we're back. |
| Aquarius | but for how long... |
| Aquarius | l0ner, can you tell me is 3.5.13 stable now? |
| Aquarius | i mean.. is it not at least worse than previous release? |
| l0ner | nah, I think improvements has been made |
| Aquarius | ok. |
| Aquarius | thanks |
| l0ner | I hadn't tried it yet, because of obvious reasons |
| Aquarius | i'm on my way to install it... once again |
| l0ner | good luck ;) |
| Aquarius | thanks) |
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| Aquarius | finally. |
| * Strangelv looks at Martinp23 and says, "Gesundheit." | |
| Strangelv | "I wonder where the blog is |
| Z_God | probably on the freenode site |
| Strangelv | I must admit I'm more motivated to look at Opera's EULA some more and try to make sense of it. It's a bit more difficult to understand than I remember it being the last timei insalled it to something about 4 years ago |
| l0ner | god... I use opera but never looked at EULA |
| Strangelv | Or maybe my brain fog was worse than i thought. It's about third parties, not third party software |
| Strangelv | So it's someone else using my machine that they want me to micromanage and carefulyl evaluate, not what I plug into Opera |
| Strangelv | I always look at the EULAs |
| Strangelv | Which I must admit does help motivate me to install fewer things that have them |
| l0ner | well, I don't really care... I'm the next, next, next at installation type if user |
| l0ner | and on linux You have so few apps with eula |
| Strangelv | I've had it explained to me more than once that I'm almost teh only person in the world who actually reads them |
| l0ner | that I don't have need to read them |
| l0ner | maybe not the only |
| l0ner | but one of the few |
| l0ner | but it's a good think, you know what devs want from you |
| l0ner | or rather, the legal section of dev company |
| Strangelv | I'm more of a 'you really do need to read teh fine print -- and the finer they make it the moer important it is to read it' type of user/customer/borrower/lender/patron/shareholder, et c. |
| Strangelv | "Many do seem to be written my lawyers with a 'what can we get away with' point of view. The suits will insist that they'de never enforce such provision,s but even if tehy're truthful, they're not going to be in their positions forever |
| Strangelv | The ones I hear the most horror stories about are employment contracts |
| l0ner | well it's works like this i guess |
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| l0ner | and it's a bad thing |
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| Strangelv | We need more entreprenaur,s moer employers, and more jobs to choose from so that anyone wanting to present a complicated document and pressure people to 'just sign it' will find it almost impossibel to hire anyone |
| l0ner | i remember big fuss about something included in photoshop eula that said pretty much that every work created with this software is propriety od the adobe |
| l0ner | yep, thats true |
| Strangelv | "cameras that shoot video footage hawve similar problems I'm told. You're only authorized to use the video footage under a very small set of conditions |
| Strangelv | I've not heard of teh patent holders for MPEG ever enforcing this, but they could |
| Strangelv | "I wonder if anypne has a high resolution camera that can shoot MJPEG |
| l0ner | well, after all the companies that produces tings are nothing more than just a bunch of old, fat and greedy dudes who want nothing more but our money |
| Strangelv | ...whether or not teh patent holders could get it to hold up in court against a sufficiently wvell-funsded defendant would be good to see -- especially if teh test case goes against them. Patents are insane in the US, and patent armageddon is already starting in teh mobile phone industry, just in slaw motion and with sufficiently well-fended parties that it's not a clear steamroller that decrees that no ene is |
| Strangelv | allowed to manufacture or sell anything |
| Strangelv | ...which is one of the possibilities that could happen anyway |
| l0ner | lets wait until this whole system crumbles down, it won't be long |
| Strangelv | I'm plea'santly astonished that it hasn't already. I need o be making better use of teh extra time to attempt to prepare |
| * Strangelv needs to buy a bunch of water bottles and fill them. He also needs more long term stored food | |
| l0ner | world economy (which was based on the money that didn't exist in reality at all) crumbled already, so will other parts of this whole mess |
| l0ner | I'd rather begun buying gold |
| l0ner | after everything falls down it will be only thing left with value |
| l0ner | this or petroil |
| Strangelv | Patents aren't teh only reason it's slowly crashing down on us. It's too many things at once. If it's any consolation, the parties that were hoping ot exploit this to their own ends are watching a decades-long project to create a singular nation-state out of Europe for use as a building block to world control are watching it crack up into pieces in panic and horror |
| l0ner | you know, i live in europe so i see it form the inside |
| l0ner | it's a mess |
| l0ner | I can't understand how it works |
| l0ner | and why it is still there |
| l0ner | *here |
| Strangelv | Silver has the main advantages of gold and several others -- it's rarer, it's used up by a lot of processes that leave it in non-recoverabel trace amounts, and because of price manipulation, we're rapidly running out becaues no one who isn't thinking with a proverbial tin foil hat is thinking to build an inventory of the stuff |
| Strangelv | At teh end of any month now, COMEX is going to default. It's possible another silver market could default first, but it's probably the most vulnerable with the most fraudient contracts and lowest inventory and most people trying to pull their seilver out |
| l0ner | well, we'll see how it will go |
| l0ner | I'm not that good with al this economic and politic crap |
| l0ner | the only thing I'm good at is computers |
| Strangelv | It's important to get supplies as well so you're not needing to trade away your gold and silver unecessarily at far higher prices for scarce supplies that are presentyl not scarce |
| Strangelv | I can't say that geopolitics and survival supplies and economics are quite what I wanted either. I've just been very concerned for a long time. |
| Strangelv | Aside from what the internet has provided us with and a far larger number of people being able to see what's fgoing on, things have just gotten worse and worse |
| l0ner | well, lets hope that there will be better time after whole thing crashes |
| Strangelv | Need to see what we can protect from the crash |
| l0ner | yup |
| Strangelv | Texas as a meme is about as strong as they get, so I doumt Texas will collapse. I have no such confidence about the union |
| Strangelv | Problem is that Texas' government is corrupt. I really wish RIck Perry has politically self-destructed 10 years ago, but I suppose late is better than never |
| l0ner | we'll see |
| l0ner | I don't know anything about US |
| Strangelv | I need to know more about Europe than I do |
| Strangelv | As that may be ground zero despite how much the Beltway in D.C. deserves to be |
| l0ner | I know that here in italy the current goverment resigned yesterday and we don't really know what will happen from now on |
| Strangelv | How much cheering on the streets has their been over the resignations? |
| l0ner | and in the poland the goverment is made only by people who cares about themselves |
| l0ner | many, my facebook was flooded with happy posts, and I've even seen non-drinking people drink champagne on the streets |
| Strangelv | Actually that wou/ld be dangerous here. As corrupt as the US Congress is, they've only built the problem -- the problem is external to them and self-sustaining. Every session they focus on creating more powvers for the utterly out of control executive branch filled with unaccountable bureaucracies |
| l0ner | let's hope we wont finish in cyberpunk-like world where megacorporations are true goverments |
| Strangelv | The US has more statutes, laws, rules, and regulations than any other country in world history. ...as well as a bigger debt than any. I must admit I don't hear the equivalent of 'what could go wrong' dismissals of any danger as I used to. Activists on the left as well as the right have been having admittedly not big enough protests. Need to get them together to focus on the common enemy instead of each other |
| Strangelv | Remember: Corporations were a government creation |
| l0ner | i know |
| Strangelv | That's normally forgotten in the US. One side defends them assuming that doing so is defending the free market; the other side blames the free market for creating them and wants the government to protect us from them... |
| l0ner | but gov won't protect us form corps, becase corps are gov |
| Strangelv | Which is all very good news if you've got your interests lined up with teh bost obscenely large gowvernment in world history getting even moreso |
| l0ner | or rather, coprs are financing gov |
| Strangelv | The relationship is symbiotic as well as pathological |
| * Strangelv is a card carrying member of the Libertarian Party, so his views on a great many things are fairly predictable | |
| l0ner | lol |
| Aquarius | hm... gnome is getting slower... |
| Strangelv | In what context? |
| * l0ner is some kind of anarchist with a little of socialist ideas | |
| Strangelv | There are morle potential types of anarchies than there are of potential governments as best I can tell |
| l0ner | that's true |
| l0ner | too |
| Strangelv | The main question is how many of them could be stable enough to last more than even a single decade |
| Strangelv | Permanance is too much to ask of any situation -- pure democracies certianly fail that test |
| l0ner | but it will take force of whole nation to implement anarchy-idea-based gov, and some people won't allow that, some won't care... |
| Strangelv | The best solution I can think of for an anarchy is to do it in space |
| Strangelv | "eoither an O'Neil colony or inside a lunar lava tube for the crlosest to near term prospects |
| l0ner | yep, we need some kind of hybrid system, which mixes the best aspects of other gov kinds together |
| Strangelv | ...as well as the worst... |
| Strangelv | The important idea of a republic is that teh majority is constrained. Even if the wolves outnumber the sheep, they are limited in terms of what they can vote to have for dinner |
| Strangelv | ...at least until teh constitution is completely ignored. Something that got far too littel attention with ObamaCare is how it was 'passed' -- they're no longer even obeying tho procedures of our constitution, which is about the only thing they WERE obeying |
| l0ner | argh... why I'm so clumsy with graphics?? |
| Strangelv | What are you trying t do? |
| l0ner | some kind of logo for trinity |
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| Strangelv | What is your concept? I need to get back to work on mine if I can find my sketches. |
| Strangelv | if I can't I need to try again to recapture what I had visualised |
| l0ner | we need to have new logo, new icons and whole new collection of art that is not referencing to kde in any way |
| l0ner | well, until now i did one thing |
| l0ner | which I thought could be used on trinity website |
| Strangelv | We have a T logo that's our present placeholder. I'm of the view we sohuld use that for the time being so that we only need to change it once |
| l0ner | and T logo is fine with me, |
| l0ner | but i think we should drop the gears which are too big reference to kde |
| l0ner | and modernize it in some way... |
| Strangelv | I'm thinking of a far bigger change |
| Strangelv | I need to get my second mascot proposal produced. I hope it'll do better than the first proposal which was a configurable robot. evenyoen either liked it or hated it -- with too many in the lattercolumn |
| l0ner | start discussion about it, show some of them |
| l0ner | we need to make a new, modern-looking theme for trinity and so on |
| Strangelv | What about a Plastik/Keramic derived solution that uses the best of both? Admittedly, my desktop looks like a realyl well done variant of Windows 95, but that's actually what I want... |
| Strangelv | Is there a guide for creating a theme somewhere, and for taking apart existing ones for reference graphics? |
| Strangelv | ...or is it mostly algorithmic? |
| l0ner | dunno |
| l0ner | and I'd like to see something more along light stye2/plastik lines |
| Strangelv | If I can figuer out how to use GIT I can at least start uploading wallpaper graphics for people to throw rotten tomatoes at |
| Strangelv | What is style 2? |
| * Strangelv starts up kcontrol | |
| l0ner | "light style, 2nd revision" |
| l0ner | i used it to simulate BeOS look some time ago |
| l0ner | and right now I use Polyester which is really nice |
| l0ner | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26010362/trinity_text_logo.png |
| l0ner | i did this today, as idea for website look |
| Strangelv | I use plastik window decorations and keramic widgets. I'm not sure how to improve on that combination other than to consolidate them somehow |
| l0ner | by widgets you mean? |
| Strangelv | Style |
| l0ner | nah, I don't like it... too much complicated |
| l0ner | I'd settle for something simplier |
| Strangelv | in what way is it complicated?L |
| l0ner | I don't know how to explain this... |
| l0ner | I'm a minimalist so I'd like something more along lines of Plastik/Phase |
| l0ner | keramic looks too me too big, with too many decorative elements which take up space... |
| * Strangelv wonders how much work it would be for a 1967 imprementation. Would arlso need custom mouse cursors as those changed in the 1970s or so to an angled arrow. Only one solution in the 1980s used the old school straight up arrow cursor | |
| Strangelv | "That's something that would be good to make configurable -- scale the elements to be larger or smaller |
| l0ner | yep |
| * Strangelv would probabyl make them bigger. His eyes are'nt as good as they used to be | |
| l0ner | it was main reason I stopped using gtk based apps, everythign was taking too much space |
| Strangelv | I'm suspecting that's not what you mean by complicated though. I don't need an answer right now as I'm not working on it right now. I really do want an answer, though. if I work on this I'll need to know what you mean |
| l0ner | well, lets leave it for later |
| Strangelv | Scalability is definitely something for a wishlist and absolutely in keeping with what I believe to be the core philisophy that led to KDE3/TDE -- give the user as much control as possible |
| Strangelv | ...and from the GUI |
| l0ner | the best thing to do would be do a small research on how the current modern and most popular OSes look and do something along the lines with tde touch |
| l0ner | exaple: i don't like what OsX is and how it works, but I like how it looks |
| Strangelv | Except that we're the old school. All the cook kids want to make everything a telephone |
| l0ner | or rather, how it manages things by trying to keep workspace as big as it can be |
| Strangelv | That's an ad I'd like to do for KDE sometime: here's a cluttered desktop, mouse keyboar'd and instead ofa display there's a giant handheld touch screen phone. The text reads "What do you mean this isn't what you want in a desktop environment?" |
| Strangelv | "s/KDE/TDE/ |
| l0ner | that is what kde4 devs are doing |
| Strangelv | And Gnome |
| Strangelv | And unity |
| Strangelv | And Microsoft |
| l0ner | fuck desktop, we concentrate on touch screens because they are cool and new and shiny, and well fuck productivity |
| * Strangelv nods grimly | |
| l0ner | and most annoying thing i get form kde4 community |
| Strangelv | Let them do the blue sky experimentation. If they do something that actually works, maybe we should look into adding it to the old school paradigm |
| l0ner | "you should use your desktop like we tell you too" |
| Strangelv | When i lose control over my desktop environment I feel threatened and become agressive and hostile. I need to be in control |
| l0ner | yes |
| Strangelv | Scalable widgets definitely sounds like something we should have |
| l0ner | i remember starting a little flame at kde4 forums, in which me and other users was pointing out what they didn't like in kde4. The only argumet kde4 devs used against as (and probably had) is that we either "not use things how they should be use" |
| l0ner | like moving plasmoids too much and so on |
| Strangelv | what's another feature we should have that we're missing? |
| l0ner | or "but it's awesome, it (kinda)works, and we put so much work in creting this!" |
| Strangelv | That's nice, but I wont something that can do what I've been doing |
| Strangelv | want, too |
| Strangelv | That's not more powerful, that's a straight jacket |
| Strangelv | I'll need one if I'm dforced to use it for too long |
| l0ner | We need auto resizing panels, like in xfce, they sum lenght of all widgets panel contains and set panel lienght to that sum |
| l0ner | and possibility to remove completely panels |
| l0ner | right now 1 panel is a must |
| Strangelv | Wonder if the code from their solution could be adapted. After all, if there are compatible licences, we shou/dn't hesitate to take full advantage. 8) |
| l0ner | and different look settings for each panel present (like I want only one panel that is transparent, one whith green bg image, and one with red) |
| l0ner | yep |
| Strangelv | More ways to show the desktops in Kicker. Right now I have four desktops show in a very inefficient fashion: three on the top row one on the bottom. I'd very much like to have four in a single row |
| l0ner | and from the logicla viewpoint we don't need even to look at theri code, since all we need is a method to get widgets size, and sum them up |
| l0ner | i have 4 in one row |
| l0ner | pager options -> rows -> 1 |
| Strangelv | Well it might be good to lok at it long enough to know what to swipe and to meet the terms -- this function was written by so and so and modified by peter, paul, mary, and young |
| * Strangelv looks. EH couldn't finda salution last time he looked | |
| * Strangelv is also still running 3.5.12 | |
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| * l0ner is running 3.5.10 so Strangelev is not so behind | |
| Strangelv | "I see columns: Automatic, 1, 2, and 3 |
| Strangelv | Is this another case were we may have lost functionality? |
| l0ner | i see no columns lol |
| Strangelv | I don't see rows |
| l0ner | wait let me try something |
| l0ner | it's the same thing |
| Strangelv | I get it |
| l0ner | if you have vertical panel it shows up as columns and if you have horizontal one (like me) it shows as rows |
| Strangelv | "You have rows because you probably have Kicker horizontal, right? |
| Strangelv | nod |
| l0ner | yup |
| l0ner | and it's not really kicker i have pager on |
| Strangelv | Now you see why I want four columns -- it'll take up less of the letngth of the bar/panel/toolbar |
| l0ner | yep |
| Strangelv | Equivalent to four rows if it were horizontal |
| l0ner | i use OsX like panel at the top of the screen |
| l0ner | well I was using 2 rows/cols when i had vertical kicker |
| * Strangelv tries to remember where he ULed the screenshot of his desktop | |
| Strangelv | It's smaller if it's 3 columns |
| Strangelv | "4 would be even better |
| Strangelv | I do admit that I have them set to show applications and wallpaper. So it's one thing I probably already have smaller than I should, but the way Kicker is designed I need to fight for every pixel of length I can get |
| l0ner | anyway this is like me desktop looks now: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26010362/screen.png |
| l0ner | and I'd like to replace kicker at the bottom with something like OsX dock |
| l0ner | but native to trinity |
| Strangelv | I have way too many tihngs open for that to work easily. I'd be shifting around cronstantly trying to find things |
| Strangelv | I lack sufficient familiarity with the OSX dock, but I'm definitely in favor of more options |
| l0ner | well, I need something that holds only Icons of runnning apps and is able to hold some of my app shortcuts |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: for building on arch, it is better to use pkgbuilds from aur or tde-packaging?? |
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| MutantTurkey | AUr |
| MutantTurkey | i don't have access to tde-packaging to commit it. |
| MutantTurkey | temporarly |
| * Strangelv : l0ner: http://dimensionality.com/tqtde/Strangelv_Workstation_20110204.png -- I've since gotten rid of the up and down buttons on the taskbar, changed my wall paper (to something arguably even more visually busy), and have SETI@Home runninga gain and eating my unused clock cycles. | |
| MutantTurkey | soon i'll have it updated. |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: that sidebar takes up 1/3 of your screen though! :P |
| Strangelv | only when deployed |
| Strangelv | It's set to autohide. I also have animation for it hidinga and unhiding disabled |
| MutantTurkey | oh nice |
| Strangelv | okay, not disable,d just set to hardly use any frames at all |
| Strangelv | I also had rather fewer applications running whetn I took that shot than normal |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | I try and keep minimal on amount of applications. |
| Strangelv | Here's another possible marketing angle: HOW DO YOU HAVE _YOUR_ TDE DESKTOP CONFIGURED? |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: thats actually an AWESOME Idea |
| MutantTurkey | i am serious |
| Strangelv | The idea being to show as many wildly different possibilities as possible |
| MutantTurkey | we just need a 1 minute promo clip |
| MutantTurkey | each person on camera says like "i like trinity because ____" and then we have a screenshot |
| MutantTurkey | or something |
| MutantTurkey | it's like a crappy car insurance commercial, but awesomer |
| *** Aquarius has joined #trinity-desktop | |
| Aquarius | Z_God |
| Aquarius | i finally found it. |
| Aquarius | actually it IS a newer kernel that helped. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: lol see what I just said on the appeal for freedom list |
| Strangelv | Would likely be less worku than my other idea of a cheap shot of showing what everyone else is trying to do |
| Xu_R | I saw XD |
| Xu_R | gg lolol. |
| Aquarius | now i have finally conducted my test. I booted with old Kernel - same audio issue came back. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: like seriously.... pack your bags and go |
| Aquarius | with new one ... it's fine. |
| Aquarius | so i was right after all. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: also, Meeting pad is getting very full. |
| Aquarius | that's the only thing that fixes it. |
| MutantTurkey | the meeting is going to dragon and on :P |
| Strangelv | What's the URL for that again? |
| Xu_R | yea... XD |
| Aquarius | and i'm on back on TDE |
| Aquarius | -on |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: this will be a productive meeting; one that we haven't had in months :) |
| Strangelv | ...and what time was decided on? |
| * Strangelv claps | |
| Xu_R | decided 12PM EST to get as many people as possible to join :) |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: 12PM est |
| Strangelv | "So 11:00... let me update my calendar... |
| * Strangelv is CST | |
| Strangelv | Does anyone have a collection of phone numbers? |
| Aquarius | but this newer kernel brings some other issues. |
| Aquarius | for example... vlc doesn't show any movies by now. |
| * l0ner_away is away: ! | |
| *** l0ner_away is now known as l0ner | |
| * l0ner is back. | |
| Strangelv | erk |
| * l0ner is UTC+1 right now | |
| Strangelv | my problrem with VLC is that it sometimes want to claim an infinite amount of RAM |
| l0ner | looks more like VLC/decoder problem |
| MutantTurkey | try mplayer. |
| MutantTurkey | It's the best :) |
| l0ner | pure mplayer |
| l0ner | or smplayer, which is simpy advanced gui for mplsyer |
| l0ner | *mplayer |
| MutantTurkey | pure mplayer |
| Strangelv | I have several installed, mostly for diagnostic purposes |
| MutantTurkey | "advanced" means a qt wrapper... |
| MutantTurkey | but mplayer seems to work quite well |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I like trinity becaus it can be just like MacOsX |
| l0ner | well not quite yet, we don't have native dock |
| Strangelv | Anyone got a desktop filled with icons that they wouldn't mind taking a screenshot of for marketing purposes? |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I like trinity becaus it can be just like BeOS |
| MutantTurkey | who was looking at that? |
| MutantTurkey | I like trinity because it "just works' |
| MutantTurkey | I like trinity because |
| l0ner | I have a clean desktop :P i use no icons |
| MutantTurkey | "it makes integration easy" |
| MutantTurkey | "I LIKE TRINITY BECAUSE.... |
| l0ner | yep, pretty much |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | I am thinking we'd need some dynamic content |
| MutantTurkey | a promo video? :P |
| * MutantTurkey maybe this is way over our heads? | |
| l0ner | could be nice :D |
| Strangelv | only have a dozen things |
| Strangelv | So two video ideas... anyone got a third? A fourth? |
| MutantTurkey | "Calvin Morrison, 17, USA." " I like trinity because it's a no nonsense answer for getting work done" (screenshot below), then cut to l0ner, 105, Alabama " I like TDE because..." |
| Strangelv | Three is probably the minimum number to shoot for doing |
| MutantTurkey | just something like that. |
| l0ner | nah, request a short user-made video (even form webcam will do) in which he says why he likes trinity the most (give him 3-4 sec for answer) |
| MutantTurkey | yes webcam is good exactly. |
| MutantTurkey | I can clean up audio / video significantly. |
| MutantTurkey | I also have friends in video production departments at school. |
| l0ner | great! |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: okay I am going to commit soon to the tde-packaging reopo |
| Strangelv | That could be one way to do it. Could have dozens along those lines, although I can also see them rapidly getting bmoring |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: 3-4 seconds |
| l0ner | i produced most of promo videos for my school tho :P |
| l0ner | I see it: hi-res video showing desktop screenshot and in corner video of user saying "I like trinity because..." |
| Strangelv | So the idea is to have a set of these together for one video. Okay, that could be less borin,g and would then need other ideas to supplement. What does YOUR TDE desktop look like, What do you mean you don't want you 24" workstation display to look like it's your telephone? |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | if people want it to look like a telephone... .OK! |
| l0ner | a promo video like that |
| Strangelv | How do we do the latter one? |
| MutantTurkey | because we need to say anything goes... |
| MutantTurkey | OKAY SOMEONE MAKE A ETHERPAD right now! |
| MutantTurkey | "promo ideas" |
| MutantTurkey | for the next release |
| Strangelv | "We can look like a telephone too, but it's entirely your choice? |
| l0ner | is it wise and droductive choice? |
| l0ner | &PRODUCTIVE |
| l0ner | aaaargh!!! |
| l0ner | i hate my keyboard |
| l0ner | *productive |
| Strangelv | I loved my old 1980s-era NEC keyboard,s but wore them out too quickly and then couldn't find anymore. Plus i was broke at the time. Right now i'd eagerly pay $100+ for one |
| MutantTurkey | I am a die hard for this trhinkpad keyboard. |
| MutantTurkey | but the "dell quiet key" is my favorite desktop keyboard |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.topmicrousa.com/dequkeps2skr.html |
| Strangelv | Right now I have a $15 Kensington. The feel is garbage, but the feel is garbage to me on any rucently made keyboard |
| jumpship | wow, such drama on the ml |
| * Strangelv has been avaiding his email | |
| MutantTurkey | jumpship: I know >_> hopefully just ended it. |
| l0ner | i have isle-like (really) low profile keyboard in my laptop |
| l0ner | and i just can |
| l0ner | 't sense the keys |
| MutantTurkey | It just bothers me that someone is so preoccupied with bashing us and wont leave us alone. |
| jumpship | I seen you tried, but it looks as others have too |
| MutantTurkey | It would be a trinity user going on KDE4 ML and complaining and complaining |
| MutantTurkey | jumpship: hopefully I did though |
| MutantTurkey | Go, in peace. |
| Strangelv | Who's doing the bashing? Is this the KDE4 developer that was mendioned in here the other day? |
| jumpship | No matter, time goes on |
| jumpship | No Ilya is the guy from KDE:KDE3 or whatever |
| jumpship | anyway, back to the other topic |
| jumpship | I'm glad I'm not the only one that likes a large left panel |
| Z_God | the problem is on two sides really |
| Z_God | it seems Timothy didn't hadn't certain things very subtly either |
| Z_God | handle* |
| Z_God | both parties have valid criticisms against each other, but for the future of both projects, it's important to prevent these things in the future |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: no he did |
| jumpship | Maybe, but, oh nevermind, sorry I mentioned it, no need to add to it |
| MutantTurkey | for a REALLY REALLY LONG TIME. |
| MutantTurkey | and clearly ilya isn't competent to pick up on it |
| MutantTurkey | so tim just said it rather frankly. |
| Z_God | but in the latest discussion, it's obvious Tim made some mistakes, this is unfortunate, but it should be avoided |
| l0ner | pad has been made! |
| Strangelv | jumpship: like to contribute a screenshot for the 'what does your TDE Desktop' collection effort? |
| Strangelv | What'sa good place to collect these? |
| jumpship | You'd all laugh at me :) |
| Z_God | at least he reconciled though, I hope Ilya will do as well |
| Strangelv | The idea is to havne a mess of them that look as different from each other as possible |
| Strangelv | The more unconventional, the better? ...or if it's default plus a large left panel, that would wokr too. 8) |
| jumpship | Well, it's different, sure, I'll make one |
| l0ner | give me auto-resizing to it's contents kicker, and icon-only taskbar and I'll submit many different possible configurations |
| * Strangelv is the worng person to ask to do the coding. Even if he had the time, his coding skillset has gathered entirely around scripting languages | |
| * l0ner 's too | |
| l0ner | well i'd could ttry to do some coding |
| l0ner | or at least look at the code, since theoretically I finished my hi-school as a programmer (big laugh) and I can read c/C++ code and do some basic coding |
| l0ner | I even did a little app in qt4 to handle sqlite db for my maturity exam |
| Strangelv | my last effort at coding in C++ ended up getting too kludgy. ...then I disastrously let someone talk me into trying to port it to Java... |
| l0ner | and now theretically i'm doing ing degree in informatics |
| Strangelv | I was a lot more successlful with Python after giving up on having hiher than double precision floats |
| l0ner | aww... bad |
| MutantTurkey | I hate python... |
| MutantTurkey | C all the way! |
| l0ner | java is pure evil |
| MutantTurkey | (also I don't fancy C++) |
| l0ner | I hate python too, or rather, how it is used |
| MutantTurkey | Java is to C++ like nailing wooden planks on a dog to make an octopus. |
| l0ner | python is nice when used like more powerful bash, to automatize some thins |
| Strangelv | I've got a copy of first edition K&R I'm wanting to go through. I'm thinking old school C might be something i could deal with if i can get past my difficulties with points |
| Strangelv | pointers |
| MutantTurkey | Java is really like C plus plus, minus minus. |
| l0ner | java was made to automate industrial machines |
| Strangelv | Two things in the minus minus column made my effort a nightmare |
| l0ner | no, it's more like c++,------------------------- |
| MutantTurkey | "C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung. " |
| Strangelv | I needed operators on something other than just the buil-in basics, and I had a very complex, but efficient class inheritance structure |
| Strangelv | Python worked just fine with it. With Java I was destroying any traces of efficientcy jiust to try to get it to wokr again |
| Strangelv | redefining the exact same thing about 20 times over |
| MutantTurkey | ' Being really good at C++ is like being really good at using rocks to sharpen sticks ' |
| *** Fat-Zer_ has quit IRC | |
| MutantTurkey | http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/ < read |
| Strangelv | instead of a parent class that had it once and then have multiple things inherit from it and from other things they needed |
| MutantTurkey | http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/java < read |
| MutantTurkey | read the whole harmful website! :P |
| MutantTurkey | my favorite quite though is "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution. -- Robert Sewell" |
| * Strangelv wonders if anyones' written a'n operating system in Haskall | |
| jumpship | What should I do with me screenshot? |
| MutantTurkey | I think so. |
| * l0ner needs to change music queue | |
| Strangelv | Can you upload it somewhere? We probably need a place to upload them all to |
| * Strangelv also has one from Tokra that's the same vintage as the one he's shown | |
| jumpship | I don't have accounts anywhere, know of something I don't have to create an account for? |
| * Strangelv can't remember the image uploading site he used that keeps things for about a month | |
| Strangelv | "But that's be definition only an immediate term solution |
| jumpship | It's small, I could email it to someone |
| l0ner | imageshack? |
| jumpship | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/249/jumpship.jpg/ |
| l0ner | uh... why it looks to me like nightmare? |
| MutantTurkey | chang your background |
| MutantTurkey | we can't include that :P |
| MutantTurkey | "though I thouroughly approve" |
| l0ner | lol |
| jumpship | I like it, It's really not for everyone, I kinda wondered about the wallpaper |
| jumpship | Something about that pic always interested me, not sure what :) |
| * Strangelv : I may be biased, but I tend to find a much lower tendency among female programmers to be dishonest about their skills, and thus do not say they know C++ when they are smart enough to realize that that would be a lie for all but perhaps 5 people on this planet. -- Erik Naggum | |
| Strangelv | I must admit the wallpaper is pretty amusing |
| Strangelv | One possibility would be to change the wallpaper to something less distracting before making a screenshot, but your very customized taskbar is very much the sort of thing that we probabrly want in the customized desktops video. Thank you! |
| jumpship | I'll change it, I often have no wallpaper, but just black is kinda bland for a screenshot |
| Strangelv | "I have some interesting wallpapers to offer. 8) |
| jumpship | Sure, what do you have? |
| Strangelv | See if just the directory link works or if Drupal will show a 404 message |
| * Strangelv gets: IceCat has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete. | |
| Strangelv | drat. Let me pick some and havd the links to you one by one |
| jumpship | no hurry, will be back in a few, making coffee |
| l0ner | Starngelv: look at current TIME front page |
| MutantTurkey | did you know adolf hitler made TIME's man of the year in the 1930s? |
| MutantTurkey | juts leraned that. |
| l0ner | lol, didn't kknow |
| Strangelv | I knew he did, but I didn't know it was twice until earlier today |
| * Strangelv : http://www.dimensionality.com/tqtde/julia_L505_1528.png | |
| * Strangelv : http://www.dimensionality.com/tqtde/julia_L506_0139.png | |
| * Strangelv : http://www.dimensionality.com/tqtde/Julia_L506_2342.png | |
| * Strangelv : http://www.dimensionality.com/tqtde/L421_all_r1.png -- set to tile, not stretch | |
| * Strangelv : http://www.dimensionality.com/tqtde/L424_004.png -- ditto, but I seem to be teh only one woh likes this one | |
| * Strangelv : http://www.dimensionality.com/tqtde/L424_012_fix1.png | |
| Strangelv | Again, that one is square and tiling |
| * Strangelv : http://www.dimensionality.com/tqtde/L424_046.png -- tiling | |
| * Strangelv : http://www.dimensionality.com/tqtde/L424_085.png -- tiling | |
| * Strangelv : http://www.dimensionality.com/tqtde/Lightly_Snowed_Backyard_colorfix1.png | |
| l0ner | uh, I think I don't want to know what just did my cat. But I heard i really loud "thump" somewhere in the house.... |
| Strangelv | l0ner: anyone that Time would tout as a potenital frontrunner is someone I'm inclined by default to run away from |
| * l0ner is going to look for cat... and damage | |
| MutantTurkey | fractals eh? |
| l0ner | Strangelv: me too |
| Strangelv | It was one way to create an interestiwng solution and still have large amounts of solid to near-solid color that some people were wanting |
| Strangelv | My normal inclinations tend to be more like L424_085.png at the simplest |
| * Strangelv hopes the cat is okay | |
| Strangelv | Which is why I'd like to have more control over the text with the desktop icons |
| MutantTurkey | we're going to need some sort of artwork done for this release... |
| MutantTurkey | is that in the meeting notes Xu_R? |
| Strangelv | Is theer a list of specifications anywhere? |
| Strangelv | without them I might do the wrong things |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno |
| MutantTurkey | also I don't really like tiled backgrounds :P |
| MutantTurkey | we'll need to come up with an idea of what we want in the group though |
| * l0ner found cat, but no dmg | |
| l0ner | well, what we need is modern-eyecandy-simple-artwork |
| l0ner | tiled wallpapers imho looks like something from '90 |
| MutantTurkey | I think we need an improved icon theme. |
| l0ner | true |
| MutantTurkey | things like KPowersave look really crappy |
| l0ner | yep, and we need theme that is clean and sleek |
| MutantTurkey | faenza? |
| MutantTurkey | http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228 |
| MutantTurkey | I like that sort of look |
| Strangelv | A big complain I have with the Crystal set is that the GIMP icon looks great if you have it nice and big on the desktop but is utterly unrecognizable if it's on your taskbar or in a meny with small icons |
| l0ner | great!! |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: yeah its bad for that |
| MutantTurkey | also there are many KDE specific icons. |
| MutantTurkey | so either A) we need to improve ours or B) add new icons to an existing one |
| Strangelv | _Do we really need to replace other project's icons? |
| l0ner | I think we'll be able to dig something nice un kde-look.org, and maybe adapt it |
| Strangelv | "What if we had a set that was ONLY for KDE3/TDE projects? |
| l0ner | that would be the best |
| l0ner | but for better integration with gtk/'qt4/kde4' we will need to provide more icons |
| l0ner | at least the default ones |
| MutantTurkey | yes I am looking for one now |
| MutantTurkey | there are projects are just icon themes. |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I can't build kdelibs form pkgbuild on my arch vm: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/507286/ |
| MutantTurkey | I think we need to consider dropping crystal svg. |
| l0ner | crytstal svg is outdated IMHO |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner:X looks like you don't have your X11 development libs. |
| l0ner | D: |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: key phase "IMHO" |
| MutantTurkey | thats my guess |
| Strangelv | I would be all for keeping Crystal, maybe with some update,s as an option. Possibly even in its own separate package, but an option. The work has been done and a lot of people are used to it |
| jumpship | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/jumpship.jpg/ |
| jumpship | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/522/jumpship2.jpg/ |
| * Strangelv 's opinions are never humble | |
| l0ner | well, I don't tell to wipe them out form existence |
| jumpship | looks just like it does outside today, thats the other way it looks depending on which kicker panels are hidden |
| MutantTurkey | I think we need to imporove them at the very least. |
| l0ner | and sure, I'm for archivizing them and providing them as an extra |
| Strangelv | :: will look at the screenshots as soon as he stops ROFL for the Ruby page on harmful |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: harmful.cat-v.org is my favorite page seriously |
| l0ner | yet, we need something new and something that's all oh-look-how-cool-are-those-icons/theme-i'm-going-to-try-that-DE |
| MutantTurkey | they make fun of everything well! |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: we need something a bit slicker |
| * Strangelv : At least Perl is hilarious. Ruby does not have the redeeming quality of being funny. | |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | but very out of the way |
| MutantTurkey | I think |
| * MutantTurkey favorite ruby quote | |
| l0ner | slicker and less glossy, latest trends are likt that |
| MutantTurkey | someone could start a etherpad on it... |
| MutantTurkey | if they would like |
| MutantTurkey | we should bring it up at the meetin |
| *** Aquarius has quit IRC | |
| MutantTurkey | my screenshot :) http://i.imgur.com/0vshb.png |
| MutantTurkey | I think we should use this by default! its the best :P |
| MutantTurkey | except for my window decorations, I hate them, but cant find a better one |
| l0ner | add it to the pad on meeting |
| l0ner | it will be a long meeting it seems... |
| MutantTurkey | what do you all think of my screen? |
| jumpship | I like your wallpaper, dark |
| MutantTurkey | jumpship: its included by default actually. |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: you still using antialised fonts? :) |
| samelian | I find antialiasing very ugly and slow |
| MutantTurkey | why not? |
| MutantTurkey | (i actually have no idea?) |
| l0ner | wallpaper is nice, window decorations are awful, style don't fit really in the "modern" category, is it "light style" or what? |
| samelian | hang on, I will show you my desktop |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: yeah mystyle sucks too |
| MutantTurkey | I was mostly focusing on my panel setup |
| MutantTurkey | what d oyou think of that? |
| MutantTurkey | my style is pretty much just good old windows esque |
| * l0ner shameless repost of desktop screenshot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26010362/screen.png | |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I was using that sytle to simulate vintage BeOS look :D |
| jumpship | I never noticed all the new wallpapers, when were they added? |
| Strangelv | So is mine aside from the vertical toolbar, which I've been using since Windows 95 |
| MutantTurkey | plastic is a bit to plasticy |
| l0ner | Polyester is nice, like plastic but less plastik :P |
| Strangelv | which wallpapers? |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: check here: http://thel.ro/desktop.png |
| jumpship | Mine started with a desire to not have a tv anymore, thats why the media player in the corner, then filled in below it |
| * Strangelv needs to stop adding moer links and save screenshots. IceCat is molassas enough as it is | |
| jumpship | Maybe I just never noticed them in kde, or I just don't remember |
| l0ner | samelian: looks quite vintage, if I'd was to find this trough google images i'd say it's form kde3.5.9 times |
| MutantTurkey | guys! guys! |
| samelian | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | this conversation ROCKS |
| samelian | I like clean fonts |
| MutantTurkey | because it's exactly what Strangelv said, everyone has a different way to use trinity. |
| samelian | also, displaying fonts in this way is _very_ fast |
| l0ner | I don't even know if I use them antialias or not x_x |
| MutantTurkey | I use antialiasing because with out it many fonts are crippled. |
| l0ner | true |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: you should recompile freetype with hinting support |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: no, I'll throw it up there. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: okay :) |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: i'll poke around with it |
| samelian | search on google for "freetype bytecode interpreter" |
| MutantTurkey | with plastik, the qt theme, we should remove those hideous dots on the scroll bars... |
| samelian | http://avi.alkalay.net/2007/01/freetype-with-bytecode-interpreter.html |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| * Strangelv thinks... TDE: What YOU make of it? How YOU want it? It's up to YOU? | |
| jumpship | I can say this, no other environment let me make my setup, tried them all after the kde4 release, good or bad :) |
| l0ner | and wtf is wrong with you!? TDE can do it! |
| jumpship | Anyone else have a cable guy wanna run a windows disc during install of internet? He was very confused. |
| MutantTurkey | anyway girlfriend got here, gotta go |
| MutantTurkey | jumpship: lol yes happened to me b4 |
| jumpship | later MT |
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| * Strangelv likes 'TDE Can Do It' | |
| l0ner | :D |
| jumpship | Seeing flashbacks of Nike comercials |
| Strangelv | Is that too close to someone else's phrase? |
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| l0ner | "You can do it"? |
| jumpship | I can't think of any, but Nike had a series of commercials back during the "Just do it" thing that were sports figures talking about what they could do, thats what made me think of it |
| * Strangelv is stil lfighting with imageshack to try to get the full sized version of http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/jumpship.jpg/ | |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | imageshach is shit tho |
| Strangelv | It's the single most distinctive desktop arrangement I suspect we're going to find. I really want a good copy of it |
| jumpship | And there was a joke song with Rob Schneider and that was the chorus, I think it was a movie soundtrack |
| Strangelv | It positively screams what we're getting at. |
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| damiano_ | did someone fix the tab buttons of the kicker?? They look nicer now! |
| damiano_ | or maybe it's just some mode i never chose... |
| Strangelv | Tab buttons? |
| damiano_ | yep |
| damiano_ | main panel |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 611 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| jumpship | Task bar buttons? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=611 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [konqueror] xz support in konqueror |
| damiano_ | yes |
| damiano_ | they look pushed now. |
| damiano_ | slightly. |
| damiano_ | but it's already just fine |
| jumpship | There was a feature that was turned back on about that |
| * Strangelv is still running 3.5.12 -- he's also discovered he's not with the oldest version running in here | |
| damiano_ | ah |
| damiano_ | great |
| damiano_ | now that's something already. |
| jumpship | I'm with ya, Strangelv, 3.5.12 still |
| Strangelv | I need to fix networking on my notebook as that's probmably what I'm going to use to test upgrading from Meerkat and 3.5.12 |
| damiano_ | 3.5.13 is cool, Konqueror doesn't crash on flash anymore. Wheee! |
| damiano_ | and it's damn fast too |
| Strangelv | kewl |
| * Strangelv doesn't use Adobe flash or anything at all by Adobe, actually. Does GNU Gnash count? | |
| jumpship | After upgrade, I might just have to go back to konq for web browsing, does it render pages better? |
| damiano__ | can't tell you, but so far i haven't noticed any serious deviations. |
| damiano__ | it could be at the very least used as alternative browser for sure. |
| * Strangelv has generally avoided browsing with Konqueror -- not only has it historically tended to crash, it's too closely tied to the operating environment for his security tastes | |
| Strangelv | I do use it for local html files |
| Strangelv | open the page in a new tab |
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| damiano_ | clone.. |
| Strangelv | I wish Arora was more stable. |
| l0ner | I wish trinity had webkit |
| jumpship | Wasn't webkit a fork of khtml? |
| Strangelv | yes |
| Strangelv | fork may be the worng word |
| Strangelv | it's more intimate than that |
| jumpship | What was the reason it wasn't used to replace khtml in konq? |
| Strangelv | I'm not sure. IIRC the KDE4 version is switchable between the two |
| * l0ner wishes that koqueror could render webpages correctly | |
| Strangelv | There's also the problem of who among us is able to do anything about it |
| jumpship | Maybe an legal issue or something |
| Strangelv | ...or do we just rip out the existing khtml functionality and drop in something else off of the shelf, preferably WebKit based? |
| jumpship | Someone was working on getting Firefox's engine into konq, but I think it was kinda difficult |
| Strangelv | That's probably too heavyweight |
| Strangelv | "I'm tihnking Arora would be a better candidate |
| jumpship | Maybe they could all be wrapped in kparts and we could switch at will |
| damiano_ | yes.. now it looks just fine. Hooraay |
| jumpship | The deep buttons thing? |
| damiano_ | yep, and also the gap for tray icons |
| jumpship | gap? |
| damiano_ | well.. like frame |
| jumpship | ahh |
| damiano_ | it wasn't there before. At least i couldn't find it. |
| jumpship | Grab a screenshot when it's how you like it, I'm curious, if you don't mind |
| damiano_ | sure |
| damiano_ | hang on |
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| jumpship | Strangelv: Did you get the pic from imageshack? |
| damiano_ | http://89.28.122.14:8081/snapshot1.png |
| jhutchins | Very strange, on my first session about half the left-mouse dialogs didn't work with my serial mouse. Logged out and back in and it works fine. |
| jumpship | That does look nice |
| damiano_ | yep |
| damiano_ | i'm satisfied. |
| * Strangelv looks. He wouldn't be surprised if he's missed something. He's needing to recuperate from yesterday | |
| jumpship | A little retro, a little modern, I like it |
| damiano_ | but now back to sound issue...... i thought it's gone, but no. It was gone on newer kernel. But supposedly not because of new kernel itself, but some settings that i accidentaly have made. But those are seen to new kernel only. WHen i get onto old one the old issue is back. |
| damiano_ | yep |
| jumpship | Oh yeah, your Aquarius, I almost forgot |
| jumpship | :) |
| damiano_ | yep, sorry :) |
| jhutchins | Is there a known problem with kdesu or it's equivalent? I'm getting "conversation with su failed" with both user pw and root pw |
| jumpship | I knew I recognized the name |
| damiano_ | yep, that's me |
| damiano_ | actually, i have two xchats running now, and there's aquarius there... but i can't close it |
| damiano_ | old prob by the way. Happens sometimes. |
| Strangelv | standby, IceCat crashed on me |
| Strangelv | "Okay, I definitely didn't have that one |
| jumpship | I might look into xchat, looks nice, in the debian repo or are you on another distro? |
| Strangelv | saved. Tahtnk you |
| damiano_ | Debian, yep. You saw the icon though ;) |
| jumpship | Strangelv: Welcome |
| jumpship | Don't like the X? |
| Strangelv | Also thank you, damiano |
| damiano_ | what for? Screen you mean? |
| Strangelv | yup |
| damiano_ | ah.. np. |
| Strangelv | If we're going to put something together we need all the screenshots we can get |
| damiano_ | sure. |
| jumpship | damiano_: The clock, was that just to have the date or do you hate clocks? :) |
| damiano_ | hahaha |
| damiano_ | i just fixed that :) |
| * Strangelv would like to have an animated analog 24 hour clock somewher on his desktop. | |
| damiano_ | i want both date and time... and also i'm using low-res (doh...), so yeah.. i don't want the panel to take too much of screen space |
| jumpship | Then you'd hate my desktop :) |
| damiano_ | http://89.28.122.14:8081/snapshot2.png |
| damiano_ | take No.2 |
| damiano_ | now it's fine. Small, but visible enough though. |
| jumpship | Looks good, why low res? |
| damiano_ | well... old monitor. Don't ask why.... i had LCD 19" one.. and i still do, but i can't use it.. gave it to my sis.. |
| damiano_ | but it's alright, i can get over it... |
| damiano_ | i can do higher than 800x600, but that hurts my eyes... feel uncomfortable |
| * Strangelv needs to get something with a higher resolution than his 1360x768 | |
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| Strangelv | When I got this display its low resolution wasn't a minus. it was large and chap and that's what I needed as my eyes were normally 2 meters away from the screen |
| jumpship | I'm down to a crappy 17" with 1280x1024 for now, waiting to get a 42" |
| damiano_ | lowres is very detailed to me though. |
| Strangelv | My display that doesn't work with anything newer than Jaunty is a 17" 1280xd1024 |
| * l0ner is going to relax somewhere | |
| damiano_ | i feel pain when i can't see the pixels. Sounds weird though, but.. that's how it is. |
| l0ner | cya guys! |
| jumpship | later l0ner |
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| Strangelv | I don't need to see the pixels, but I do need pixel-level control vitht my mouse |
| jumpship | Why doesn't it work with >Jaunty |
| * Strangelv : [OUT OF RANGE] | |
| Strangelv | That becomes my display the moment the kernel reaches the point where it changes text modes |
| Strangelv | I've been iunable to figuer out how to get it to stop doing that so I can even have a working text mode to try to diagnosue and get things working |
| Strangelv | If i can't get a larger monitor I may buy a smaller one to replace that one |
| jumpship | Odd, must be trying to use strange settings |
| Strangelv | It's not exactly a new display, and it always had trouble. I've just been able to hammer it into working shape before. |
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| jumpship | This monitor came out of my junk pile, and it's given me no problems, unlike the one that died that it replaced |
| * Strangelv : 8\ | |
| Strangelv | I don't have any monitors in my junk pile unless you count the EGA monitors gathering dust in my garage |
| jumpship | X couldn't autodetect anything correct with that one, took me quite a while to get the xorg.conf proper |
| jhutchins | Ok, put myself in the sudo group, restarted, now niether kdesu kcontrol nor "Login Manager" from the Settings/System Administration menu get any response at all. |
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| jhutchins | Oh, wait, there's kcontrol... |
| Strangelv | Have you tried typing them in from konsole? |
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| Strangelv | admittedly I don't know how to invole the login manager from the console |
| jumpship | Login manager? You mean kdm? |
| jhutchins | It appears to be kcontrol. It just takes forever to come up. |
| Strangelv | Is kdesu installed? I seem to remember at least one time weher i had to grab it with apt-get |
| jhutchins | Strangelv: I had to put myself in the sudo group. (Didn't need that with debian kde). |
| jhutchins | This is lenny. |
| jumpship | Isn't kde3 still in lenny? |
| jumpship | I have an idea, one sec |
| jumpship | Look in /etc/sudoers |
| jumpship | I think the sudo group thing is off by default |
| jumpship | Do you have a commented out line like this: |
| jumpship | %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL |
| * Strangelv went from Debian/Libranet to Kubuntu in 2005, so what he remembers about Debian is largely out of date | |
| jumpship | Maybe thats not what thats for, I really don't know sudo very well |
| jumpship | That might be to diable the password completly |
| Strangelv | I don't evsen use sudo most of the time. I set up a root password during setup and always have a root console running |
| jumpship | I prefered that setup, I think I had trouble with kdesu myself a while back and instead of fixing it, went the sudo route |
| Strangelv | I've read that SUDO is actually something of a vulnerability |
| Strangelv | ...although I don't know of an alternative to KDESU/KDESUDO for X apps |
| Strangelv | short ofshutting down X to run it as root |
| jumpship | Bugs aside, I don't know how it could be any worse than su |
| * Strangelv basically never wants to log out of X | |
| * Strangelv : 13:05:06 up 27 days, 14:38, 4 users, load average: 11.15, 11.72, 11.98 | |
| jumpship | gksu, but I hate the way it fades the screen dark when it asks for password |
| Strangelv | Which is another SUDO style solution, presumably with the same danger, which I admittedly don't understand |
| jumpship | nah, gksu is gnomes kdesu, there is a gksudo too |
| jumpship | well sudo doesn't require you to have the root password, but sudo can be limited to only work with some commands |
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| Aquarius | back |
| jumpship | And better than ever? |
| Aquarius | no... unfortunatelly. |
| Aquarius | deleted new kernel. |
| Aquarius | sound issues are back... |
| Aquarius | and also.. synaptic doesn't run anymore for some reason. |
| Aquarius | only asks for password but that's it. |
| jumpship | So stick with the new kernel |
| Aquarius | NO |
| Aquarius | it's shitty man.. |
| jumpship | ok, what versions are you playing with? |
| Aquarius | Wine doesn't work because of it, VLC doesn't play video and probably lotsa other probs |
| jumpship | ahh |
| Aquarius | -32, -38 |
| Aquarius | well i'm back on 32 |
| jumpship | as for synaptic, try it in a terminal maybe it'll give some hints |
| Aquarius | ok |
| Aquarius | hah! |
| Aquarius | i ran it with kdesu and it worked! |
| Aquarius | it's open now.. what da hell.. |
| jumpship | good, I think synaptic's default menu entry uses gksu, maybe it's not installed, anyway, if it works with kdesu, you can prob just edit the menu entry |
| Aquarius | uhu... |
| Aquarius | now for another thing... |
| jumpship | Hmm, my menu entry is already setup to use kdesu |
| Aquarius | how to supply Konqueror with java? |
| jumpship | I think ya just need the pkgs installed, don't know for sure |
| Aquarius | jm.. |
| Aquarius | oke |
| jumpship | My java setup is a mess so I can't really help |
| Aquarius | i wish i had a dollar every time ive heard it.. |
| jumpship | That I can't help? me too :) |
| jumpship | I'd be very rich if I could get paid for things I don't know |
| Aquarius | nah... it's just the word "mess" |
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| jumpship | Thats just me, I learn things by making messes, then I get distracted |
| jumpship | and I don't have java working in Konq at the moment, I think I turned it off, looking... |
| jumpship | Nope, no java in konq, can't help ya, I don't use konq for browsing anymore |
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| Aquarius | now i know why synaptic doesn't work. |
| Aquarius | there are two. |
| Aquarius | one works, the other one doesn't. |
| jumpship | two? |
| Aquarius | yep.. |
| Aquarius | one left from gnome.. |
| Aquarius | even password box is different. |
| Aquarius | that's the working one. |
| Aquarius | the other one.. dunno. |
| Aquarius | Maybe it's Trinity. |
| Aquarius | or maybe.... |
| jumpship | That must be something new in 3.5.13, I only have one |
| Aquarius | i have no idea.. |
| jumpship | Where on the menu are they, right next to each other? |
| Aquarius | no.. |
| Aquarius | just forget it.. nevermind.. |
| jumpship | ok |
| Aquarius | just takes too much time with no advantage... |
| Strangelv | Is Java a mess by design? |
| jumpship | I don't know, everything I've ever tried that used it was a bad experience |
| Aquarius | dunno, but by me it works perfectly |
| Aquarius | only not in Konqueror yet |
| Aquarius | don't you forget, it ALSO depends on audio settings. It may be jerky if audio is not alright. So don't mistake audio glitches for java issues. |
| Aquarius | i''ve gone through this. |
| Aquarius | so by me java is perfect. |
| Aquarius | i test it usually on a picky java based website - playforia.com |
| Aquarius | http://playforia.com |
| Aquarius | i play pool there sometimes |
| Aquarius | and if java has any glitches it's usually pretty much visible on it |
| jumpship | Strangelv: How do I get a list of etherpads available? |
| Strangelv | I wish i knew myself |
| Strangelv | I lost the links a couple of months ago |
| jumpship | Ok, I thought I was doing something wrong, I can bring them up by number, but no list |
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| KingSphinx | Aaaaaand I'm back to Ubuntu. Fedora just has too many nagging annoyances about it for me to stick around. |
| Z_God | yum sucks right? ;) |
| KingSphinx | Not exactly, more like SELinux is a pain, Kopete doesn't work properly (or in Trinity/Fedora's case, at *all*), GTK slows my computer to a crawl for some reason, Konqueror and Rekonq segfault in the weirdest ways... you get the picture. |
| KingSphinx | Too bad the Ubuntu build of Trinity has its own problems (KMenu crashing the whole Kicker, for one) |
| Z_God | KingSphinx: are those problems still there? |
| Z_God | did you report them? |
| KingSphinx | I'm sure the bugs have already been reported, the KMenu bug is something to do with libarts or something like that |
| Strangelv | "And that bug is now confirmed to be in the current repository, not just the old lightly? |
| Strangelv | er even nightly |
| Strangelv | Does anyne know a workaround? |
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| KingSphinx | I'm pretty sure it's in the official repo, I tried it. |
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| jumpship | I think that's bug 554 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
| jumpship | unless something else is crashing kicker |
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| Aquarius | back |
| Aquarius | now.. who's the one responsible for taskbar app tabs? |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: it can make sense to drop support for other kernels (than Linux) |
| Z_God | in many cases, those systems are just broken and working around their bugs just takes up a lot of time |
| Z_God | Trinity will probably face much less problems being ported (also because it was already running on many systems) |
| Z_God | but I understand for kwin, they even had to work around loads of buggy linux drivers already, so I can imagine the frustration also working around other buggy kernels |
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| Aquarius | Trinity is cool |
| Aquarius | :) |
| Aquarius | thanks for the buttons :) |
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| Strangelv | "Could we simplify anything that might make it easier for a separate team to jump up to the plate and handle the BSD, Darwin, and NT ports? |
| Strangelv | "I'm not sure if we can get away with dropping BSD support |
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| Strangelv | "if 3.5.13 can run BSD we might be able to take its support offline for a revision or two, though |
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| Z_God | Strangelv: it should already pretty much work on those systems |
| Z_God | solaris as well |
| Strangelv | MAybe I misunderstood the situation report and proposed solution, then |
| Z_God | just google a bit on what systems have kde 3.5 if you're interested |
| Z_God | maybe not all features will work, but the basic environment and all the programs should just work |
| Strangelv | So what is being suggested, then? |
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| MutantTurkey | I have an idea about the next release and themes etc |
| MutantTurkey | along the lines of having 4 default themes |
| MutantTurkey | one being the current one, a minimal one, a 2 bar ones and a very XP one. (or whatever we feel is good) |
| MutantTurkey | what do you all think? |
| MutantTurkey | almost like the windows browser picker |
| MutantTurkey | http://blogs.sitepointstatic.com/images/tech/265-eu-browser-choice-screen-2.jpg |
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| Strangelv | Something that looks like a fancier version of the 95 theme, which I bqeliev can be acchieved optimally alrady as described previously. I'm cguessing the code needed to add the discussed scaling of widgets isn't going to be practical for .14 |
| Strangelv | Need the guide for how to do them before I could ewven start, even with specifications |
| Strangelv | I'm also falling asleep, but please feel free to bug me about it. 8) |
| Strangelv | Coild wu hovu o nuw enu that's optimized for maximum user tinkerability? |
| Strangelv | "Stick in user-created or at least selected graphics for the vzarious portions and tile or stretch as indicated? |
| MutantTurkey | wait what? |
| Strangelv | "imagine a user sticking in peeling pain, rust, mud, et c. Then another with pink flowery patterns, another with 1980s style pixelated grids, et c.? |
| Strangelv | Would need some inferfgacre ability, and might require an entire new syste,m exceeding what we can do before the next release |
| Strangelv | "so rather than making a theme that looks perfet to me, which we actualyl already haev, something designed to be even moer customizable |
| Strangelv | I suppose thy plastik/keramic combination i ues could be described as 'de luxe Redmond |
| * Strangelv waves to everyone before turning off his display and closing his eyes | |
| Z_God | bye |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 612 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=612 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KPersonalizer Branding Issue |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: this could be easily done through KPersonalizer :) |
| Z_God | I mean the themes part |
| Z_God | there just need to be new themes I guess |
| Z_God | I'm also off to bed, good night! |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm? |
| MutantTurkey | full themes, that means background, styles, fonts EVERYTHING. |
| MutantTurkey | sounds even? |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner? |
| MutantTurkey | anyone heard of kwin DeKorator? |
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| MutantTurkey | commited the 3.5.13 release specs to git |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: ^ |
| Xu_R | ? |
| Xu_R | oh, nice! |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | now what to do lol? |
| Xu_R | xD |
| MutantTurkey | I think i am going to work on the laptop window decoration. |
| Xu_R | wait for 3.5.13 bugfixes :P |
| MutantTurkey | got some dieas... |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: I think ilya is gone for good? |
| Xu_R | think so :| |
| MutantTurkey | yeah :| |
| Aquarius | MutantTurkey, hey, who's responsible for the buttons? :) |
| MutantTurkey | Aquarius: what buttons? |
| Aquarius | MutantTurkey, remember, taskbar tabs |
| Aquarius | they're just fine now :) |
| MutantTurkey | taskbar tabs... |
| MutantTurkey | (I have the worst memory ever :P) |
| Aquarius | well.. i was the one complaining about bolded tabs instead of pushed ones ;) |
| * MutantTurkey is very tired and confused | |
| MutantTurkey | oh! |
| MutantTurkey | right right right |
| Aquarius | yeah, now it's just the way i want it! |
| MutantTurkey | well good think they are OK now |
| Aquarius | so thanks for that :) |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 613 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=613 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kipi-plugins Sym Links Incorrect |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 614 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=614 enhancement, P3, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Provide a more professional message box for the TDE Write Daemon |
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| Piki | has anybody configured kmail to accept their gpg key for signing? i'm in Settings > Identities > Modify > Cryptography > OpenPGP Signing Key -> Change. it shows my key, but won't let me choose it. |
| Piki | gpg-agent is running, and i have pinentry-qt set in .gnupg/gpg-agent.conf (path to pinentry-qt is verify) |
| Piki | TDE 3.5.13 on Deb Squeeze |
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| * Strangelv still only has seven desktnop screenshots' and that's including 1-2 duplicates | |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 615 filed by jpisini@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=615 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KSVG shows only black previews |
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| Piki | has anybody managed to get gpg working with kmail? |
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| edakiri | For Debian, I've updated apt, but am not seeing release 3.5.13 . Ideas? |
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| edakiri | I used the ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net repo. Is that still correct? |
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| edakiri | Enabling "mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity/debian squeeze" did not bring it either. |
| jumpship | the address has changed slightly |
| jumpship | from the 3.5.12 reseale |
| jumpship | release |
| jumpship | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#debian |
| jumpship | ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian, notice the -v3.5.13 |
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| Strangelv | morning, or am I guessing the worng continent? |
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| Piki | Strangelv: somewhere it'll be the right continent, or the right part of a continent :-) |
| Strangelv | Most of the world, and possibyl most of our developers are not on a continent where it's still morning |
| Strangelv | 'afternoon' is probably the safer greeting |
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| Piki | unless you're one of my friends, he'll wake up in mid-afternoon and say "Good Morning", and he'll reason that to people just waking up, it's morning even though it's after noon |
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| Strangelv | I rotate forward. Right now I wake up a few hours before sunrise after calling it a day in the late afternoon or early evening. |
| Strangelv | As much as thisl irritates some people, I irritated people more when I could never wake up before about 16:00 |
| Piki | i generally just refer to what the clock and the sky say in my area |
| Strangelv | I'm more of a masochist, I suppose. sometimes I've used more tahn one invocation to say hello to more than one person in more than one continent |
| Strangelv | "or even just North America when it's one thing on the west coast and another on the ast |
| Strangelv | or even East |
| Piki | don't forget the north coast and the south coast :-) Hola and Bonjour |
| * Strangelv waits for the Earth's rotation to abruptly shift by 90 degrees. He braces himself in futility for teh adjustment | |
| Piki | hmm weird, synaptic thinks all packages are not authenticated, including the official debian repos |
| Strangelv | I need to catcrh up on authentications. I'm too used to ignoring all the notices about missing certifications. I get a lot of those |
| Strangelv | If you're running TDE right now, is there any chance of getting a screenshot from you, especially if you're doing something unusual? |
| Piki | everything should already be already authenticated, i have all the gpg keys |
| Piki | Strangelv: unusual? |
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| Strangelv | The idea is to do a video showing off just how configurable TDE is |
| Piki | would having both the knetworkmanager and wpa_gui tray icons next to each other be unusual? :-) |
| Strangelv | Jumpship has the most extremely customized desktop I've seen |
| Strangelv | He has VLC pulgged into his toolbar, which like mine is on the left edge of the screen |
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| jhutchins | Ok, this is very strange. My desktop is wrapped about 1/5 off the right side onto the left. |
| Strangelv | Try adjusting your refresh rate, either with the display itselfg or in kcontrol? |
| Piki | Strangelv: i'll see if i can get something going :-) |
| jhutchins | When I choose KDE from trinity DM I don't have any of my old kde preferences, although new preferences have been imported when I choose trinity. |
| jhutchins | Strangelv: Display was fine until after I'd started "Trinity" and konversation loaded up. I added a kmail icon to the panel, moved the menu back to the left corner, and it suddenly re-adjusted. |
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| Strangelv | Possibly it was a border case until then? The only thing I can think of that I've seen do this on either LCD or CRT is the refresh rate, so that's the only thing i can think to suggest |
| Strangelv | Guess i'll teed to say that again in a moment |
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| Strangelv | Possibly it was a border case until then? The only thing I can think of that I've seen do this on either LCD or CRT is the refresh rate, so that's the only thing i can think to suggest |
| jhutchins | Very strange behavior. I also appear to have lost my old kde configuration, including my address book and calendar. |
| Strangelv | "Could be a directory name change. .kde3 -> .trinity? |
| * Strangelv looks to see what he has with 3.5.12 | |
| Piki | jhutchins: trinity saves its settings to ~/.trinity, kde would be either ~/.kde or ~/.kde3 |
| Strangelv | "I have .kde and .kde3; no .trinity |
| Piki | jhutchins: you should be able to copy over the needed config files, though be prepared to remove them if it causes problems (i don't know if tde changed the way it saves it's config) |
| Strangelv | Maybeu this is something we needed to account for with the packaging? |
| Piki | Strangelv: weird, i have all thrree |
| Strangelv | "I'm running 3.5.12, beufore the .trinity and other changes |
| jhutchins | What's strange is that the stuff in .kde appears to be still there, but kmail/kaddressbook and conversation don't see it even if I pick KDE as my session. |
| jhutchins | Shouldn't there be a "import previous kde settings" dialog box on start-up? |
| Piki | i had the .trinity .kde and .kde3 in 3.5.12, i only have .trinity now with .13 |
| Strangelv | We might havem dane enough potentially system-breaking things that we should have named it 3.6, and then put the planned stuff for 3.6 at 3.7. Maybe also call it 3.05.x or 3.06.x |
| Strangelv | hmm |
| jhutchins | If I do help/about konversation it says "About Trinity". |
| Piki | jhutchins: i don't think there ever was one, but that'd be a good feature to add to the bug tracker |
| Strangelv | I wouldn't make it a dialogue -- I'd make it automatic, unless there's a reason someone doing the upgrade would wvant ot use that moment ot throw away their settings |
| jhutchins | I would make it an All/Select/None dialog. |
| Strangelv | "I also get about Trinity in 3.5.12 |
| Piki | jhutchins: if the old KDE3 was removed, though, then it will still log you in to trinity, so it would only use the new settings |
| jhutchins | Not sure what behavior dpkg would have done by default (Debian Lenny). |
| Piki | My Help -> About Konversation gives me About Konversation, and has About Trinity separate (but still on the Help menu) |
| Piki | ah, lenny, that's 3.5.12 |
| Piki | i didn't get to explore it thoroughly |
| Piki | jhutchins: if you have synaptic install, you can look through and see if you have any of the old KDE packages still installed. or you can use aptitude, or "dpkg -l | grep kde" |
| jhutchins | Piki: If the old KDE was removed, trinity-kdm wouldn't be offering it as an option, would it? |
| jhutchins | I'm still getting konversation taking up 99% of the CPU. |
| Piki | it might have just changed the KDE option to point to TDE |
| jhutchins | What's really strange is that that behavior has follwed me from Mandriva to Debian to Trinity. |
| jhutchins | Piki: That's what I would expect. |
| Piki | i don't know how the TDE packages were done |
| jhutchins | I wish it would leave the menu icon in the corner when I add new icons from the Menu to the Panel. |
| Piki | that's why i'm suggesting to see if the old kde packages are there, if not then that explains why it doesn't see your old settings, so your best bet would be to copy over the config files |
| Piki | jhutchins: normal KDE 3.5.10 moved stuff around on the panel when adding stuff too, so it's not just a TDE bug. it's less frustrating adding everything first and then rearranging |
| Piki | jhutchins: btw, any reason to stay with lenny? squeeze has been out for awhile, and can run TDE 3.5.13 (lenny is stuck with 3.5.12) |
| jhutchins | Piki: 90% because I didn't want KDE4, 10% lazy procrastination. |
| jhutchins | It looks like old kde is still there. |
| Piki | you don't have to install kde4, you can go with one of the other DE's, or install with no DE and install TDE from there, you'll just have to remember to install everything you need to run Xorg |
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| jhutchins2 | Let's see what kind of mischief this gets us into... |
| Piki | jhutchins2: you don't have to install kde4, you can go with one of the other DE's, or install with no DE and install TDE from there, you'll just have to remember to install everything you need to run Xorg |
| jhutchins2 | Piki: What about upgrade strategies? |
| Piki | as in, upgrading from lenny to squeeze? i'm sure it's possible, i just never tried it, never used debian consistently enough to try |
| jhutchins | Piki: They usually go pretty well, but it would upgrade to KDE4. Not sure what it would make of this mess. The kde programs are still there, but the KDE session seems to be running the Trinity programs. |
| jhutchins | I should probably look at kdmrc... |
| Piki | jhutchins: if you plan to use TDE full time, you can remove the KDE3 packages beforehand, or try on a spare computer or partition |
| jhutchins | Any idea where the session type selections for kdm are configured? |
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| Piki | i'm running konversation right now for my irc, along with lopete, kontact (email/google calendar), and iceweasel, and my cpu is hovering around 90% idel, and i'm not getting any lag |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 616 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=616 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KPatience card set |
| jhutchins | Piki: It'll just do it once in a while. |
| jhutchins | Symptom is that konversation appears frozen, rest of the system may also be sluggish. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 617 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=617 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity KDM default welcome message |
| jhutchins | Didn't happen on my Toshiba running Lenny. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 618 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=618 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDM Log File |
| Piki | the only time i had that was on an old dell laptop that would frequently overheat, haven't had it hapen since |
| * Strangelv sees the KPatience entry and again wonders what's needed ot add a game or variant. He has a variant of MOD3 he'd like to implement: aces go on top of jacks | |
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| Aquarius | hey everyone |
| Piki | hi |
| Piki | oh yes, has anybody configured kmail to use their gpg key for signing? it shows mine, but won't let me select it |
| Aquarius | not me |
| Aquarius | have no need for kmail |
| Aquarius | but i have other issues.. |
| Aquarius | for example, i can't safely remove flash device... it says something about some HAL file.. |
| Aquarius | can't quite remember. |
| Piki | Aquarius: it would help if you can try one, see if you can get the error message :-) |
| Aquarius | what do you mean "try one"? |
| Piki | try to safely remove a flash drive |
| Piki | when the error comes up, tell us what it says |
| Aquarius | alright... |
| Aquarius | on my way. |
| Piki | if it's on debian, it always seems to have trouble with a file called fdi-cache, it always adds a ~ at the end (fdi-cache~), so it can't find the file and errors |
| Piki | but it would help to know for sure to have the error |
| Aquarius | http://89.28.122.14:8081/snapshot12.png |
| Aquarius | yeah, it is Debian |
| Aquarius | it's my phone actually. |
| Piki | Aquarius: i'm getting a message that the server has a limit on the number of simultaneous downlaods and that the limit was reached |
| Aquarius | hm |
| Aquarius | weird |
| Aquarius | nevermind that |
| Aquarius | well, do you see it? |
| Piki | Aquarius: look in /var/hal/cache/. if you see fdi-cache~ (with the ~), but there isn't any fdi-cache (without the ~), you'll have to rename it to remove the ~ |
| Aquarius | hm... ok |
| Aquarius | let me try it |
| Piki | could not connect to host |
| Aquarius | damn |
| Aquarius | ok, wait |
| Piki | after renaming the file, you'll need to do "/etc/init.d/hal restart" |
| * Strangelv : Could not connect to host 89.28.122.14 (port 8081). | |
| Piki | without quotes, both the file rename and the command need to be done as root |
| Aquarius | no such folder - HAL |
| Aquarius | hal that is |
| Piki | lower case |
| Aquarius | i know, i just wrote it here so |
| Aquarius | no such folder |
| Aquarius | http://89.28.122.14:8081/snapshot12.png |
| Aquarius | again. |
| Piki | Aquarius: do you have hal and hal-trinity installed |
| Aquarius | let me check |
| Piki | max simultaneous downloads limit again |
| Aquarius | well it can't be! |
| Aquarius | was alright for others |
| Aquarius | what the hell |
| Piki | Aquarius: it would probably be easier to type the error than upload it to a server, or try uploading to a different server |
| Aquarius | i don't wanna type this shit man.. it's too long |
| Aquarius | but i don't understand why you get such message... everybody uses it normally. |
| Piki | Download limit |
| Piki | On this server there is a limit on the number of simultaneous downloads. |
| Piki | This limit has been reached. Retry later. |
| Aquarius | no such thing man, it's only by your side. |
| Aquarius | and i dunno why |
| Aquarius | but wait.. let me check again with someone ele |
| Piki | my internet works just fine, i just never tried accessing aweb page through port 8081 |
| Piki | ports 80, 8080, and 443 work just fine |
| Aquarius | well.. i can give you 8080, Jesus... wait |
| jumpship | It's working here, says failed due to: |
| jumpship | cannot open /media/.hal-mtab |
| Aquarius | i'm just curious already |
| Aquarius | yep |
| Aquarius | told ya! |
| Aquarius | it's only your prob man, i never heard people say that to me |
| Piki | Aquarius: Strangelv had that too |
| Piki | so it's not just me |
| Aquarius | he said "could not connect" |
| Aquarius | and that's because i shut it off by that time probably |
| Aquarius | let me give you 8080 |
| Aquarius | just out of principle |
| Piki | well considering it's displaying an actual web page complete with html source code, i'd say it's not my internet |
| Piki | unless you just never hit the limit before, there are a lot of people in this channel |
| jumpship | dialog title is: |
| jumpship | Error - kio_media_mounthelper |
| Aquarius | http://89.28.122.14:8080/snapshot12.png |
| Aquarius | try now |
| Piki | still hitting the limit |
| Aquarius | pff |
| Aquarius | i dunno man :) |
| Piki | i know for sure it's not me, i've always been able to use 8080 without any trouble at all |
| Aquarius | anyway... let's stick with the prob |
| Piki | anyways, hal and hal-trinity |
| Aquarius | ok, let me check hal itself.. |
| Piki | those packages should be there |
| Aquarius | hal is there, but can be updated. |
| Piki | my system also has hal-info, libhal1, and libhal-storage |
| Aquarius | 0.5.14-3 |
| Aquarius | it's current |
| Aquarius | and 0.5.14-7 is to be installed. |
| Aquarius | better update i think. |
| Piki | i have -3 here, so it should work |
| Aquarius | dunno then. |
| Piki | is hal running? |
| Piki | ps aux | grep hal |
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| Piki | should show a hald process |
| Aquarius | let me check |
| Aquarius | damiano 3677 0.0 0.0 13868 968 pts/1 S+ 19:19 0:00 grep hal |
| Piki | any hald, e.g. /usr/sbin/hald or hald-runner? |
| Aquarius | hald is there |
| Piki | the grep hal only comes from using grep to filter out ps |
| Aquarius | no hald-runner |
| Piki | hmm, then i supposed try restarting hald: as root, runn the command: |
| Piki | /etc/init.d/hal restart |
| Aquarius | ok |
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| Aquarius | hm.. no such file or directory |
| DexterF | hey |
| Aquarius | i did as root. |
| DexterF | tried to setup volup/dn keys in kmix, keys are configured but pressing them does nothing |
| DexterF | i checked in xev: events are generated. |
| jhutchins | I'm getting strange behavior with kmail. I usually run it forwarded from my lenny/kde3 (now trinity) desktop forwarded over ssh to my squeeze/kde4 netbook. Since I installed trinity, it's giving me dialog boxes for my (should have been saved) passwords, and never showing the main window. If I run /usr/opt/trinity/bin/kmail, it displays the first password dialog and then crashes. |
| jhutchins | Ah, which is what happens when I run it locally. |
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| Aquarius | so what do i do next? |
| jhutchins | /usr/bin/kmail on trinity is very slow to bring up password dialogs, still not displaying main window yet. |
| Piki | Aquarius: did you restart hal? i d/ced for a moment thanks to a dist-upgrade |
| Aquarius | it says no such file or directory |
| Piki | what file or directory? |
| Aquarius | /etc/init.d/hal restart |
| Aquarius | this |
| jhutchins | konversation is not using color for nics even though it's configured to. |
| Piki | that looks like a corrupt package, if hal is installed, then /etc/init.d/hal should be there |
| Aquarius | well... terminal says it's not there. |
| Aquarius | and i did root. |
| Piki | the only thinkg i can suggest is to reinstall all the hal packages you can find on your system |
| Aquarius | and it's really not there. |
| Aquarius | ok |
| Piki | corrupt package, or bad internet connection when installing it |
| Aquarius | ok, re-installing. |
| Aquarius | no |
| Aquarius | it's just not there like it's not supposed to be there. |
| Piki | it is supposed to be there |
| Aquarius | well... it's NOT there man... |
| Piki | i'm not saying it is |
| Aquarius | and what am i to do now? |
| Piki | i'm just saying it's supposed to be |
| Piki | if it's not, and reinstalling doesn't help, then i can't help |
| Piki | btw, don't get mad or impatient with someone who's trying to help, people are less willing to help when you do |
| Aquarius | i'm not mad or impatient |
| Piki | "[12:35] <Aquarius> well... it's NOT there man..." <-- from that, it looks like you are |
| Aquarius | listen... |
| Piki | especially since i said it's supposed to be, not that it is |
| Aquarius | just.. chill. And thanks for assistance. |
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| Piki | telling me to chill when i'm already calm is what will make ME made |
| Aquarius | haha |
| Piki | mad* |
| Piki | and not willing to help |
| Aquarius | i'm not mad or impatient, just irritated. It's not the only prob i've had. So nothing personal. |
| Piki | i have a lot of work to do anyway, time to go to lurk mode |
| Aquarius | oh well. Seems like i have to re-install everything again. *sigh* |
| Aquarius | just because of some hal shit :) |
| Aquarius | at least to make sure that it never appears there or that was really some glitch by my side and it dissappeard. What else could i possibly do. |
| Aquarius | can anyone tell me which is better ext3 or ext4? I mean... i wanna know what's the optimal option here for today? |
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| jhutchins | Is there an easy way to completely remove trinity? |
| Aquarius | once installed you better keep it |
| Aquarius | but yeah, you may just find all "trinity-" files one by one and remove them |
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| Piki | Strangelv: i've uploaded 3 screenshots of my TDE 3.5.13 to http://linuxjutsu.com/~kris/Pictures/ |
| Piki | i'm out of ideas of what to do now, not sure what's "unusual" i could do. |
| Strangelv | danke |
| Strangelv | let me try to scroll up to find the interesting examples I've seen |
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| * Strangelv : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/jumpship.jpg/ -- most distinctive desktop I've ever seen | |
| DexterF | how do I make kmix adjust pulse master with multimedia keys? key events work and are set up but kmix doesnt do anything |
| * Strangelv has no clue | |
| * Strangelv looks at Aquarius and Piki | |
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| Piki | i haven't used any multimedia keys in ages, and when i did, they were detected and configured automatically |
| Aquarius | Piki, just to inform: hal successfuly re-installed and now it's back on its place. But the issue persists. |
| Piki | Strangelv: helps when they don't use pop-unders that pop-up after they are already open :-) |
| Strangelv | "Okay, the mulitbedia keys on a keyboard. I definitely can't help anyone theer as I painstakingly don't buy any keyboards that have those |
| * Strangelv wondecrs if he has enough desktop screenshots to make a miniature version of the proposed marketing video | |
| Strangelv | "in time for tomorrow's meeting |
| jumpship | DexterF: the only thing I can think of is the "Select Master Channel" option, and the only way to get to it is to right-click on the kmix tray icon |
| Piki | Aquarius: if /etc/init.d/hal doesn't exist, then the final suggestion i have is to run /usr/sbin/hald directly, but that's what the file in /etc/init.d/hal is supposed to do, along with setting up the variables and pid file hald is supposed to have |
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| jumpship | Piki: I got hald running for him, but that didn't fix it, and I don't know enough about hal to help further |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: .de? |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: ssh'd in |
| DexterF | jumpship: why is that *only* in the systray icon.... well, anyway, if I chose the sound cards main channel instead of pulse master ir works. |
| MutantTurkey | apparently my VPS has been compromised. |
| jumpship | I don't know, it's been that way since the old kde |
| MutantTurkey | X_X do not need to deal with this now. |
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| MutantTurkey | gah. this means my pgp key is comprimised, all my email accounts, therefore the possiblity of my credit cards. |
| MutantTurkey | X_X |
| Piki | call your credit card companies |
| Piki | delete the email accounts you don't need |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: yeah though I just checked - am okay. |
| MutantTurkey | seems as if the weren't going to private info. |
| MutantTurkey | though passwords all changed |
| MutantTurkey | there have been no checkins on my email so... |
| Piki | hopefully you created revokation keys for your pgp keys |
| MutantTurkey | yes and luckily I only used them for work |
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| MutantTurkey | whew |
| Piki | ? |
| MobileTurkey | gmail logs are clean |
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| Piki | use two-step verification with your gmail |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: sup? |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: no cant do it |
| MutantTurkey | I am not on my PC very often, and I dont always have my phone. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 619 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=619 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Update support for Slackware 13.37 |
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| Aquarius | seems that i don't have .hal-mtab file here.. |
| Aquarius | Z_God, hey bro |
| Z_God | Aquarius: hi |
| Z_God | my connection is extremely unstable |
| Aquarius | what's up, doc? |
| Aquarius | hm... |
| Z_God | I hope there will be np tomorrow with the meeting |
| Aquarius | probably your provider or router. |
| Z_God | yes isp |
| Aquarius | ah.. ok |
| Aquarius | listen.. i've got another prob here.. |
| Aquarius | mounting usb device is faulty. I can't unmount it (remove safely) |
| Aquarius | it brings the following error: |
| Aquarius | http://89.28.122.14:8080/snapshot13.png |
| Aquarius | wait |
| Aquarius | wrong file |
| Aquarius | http://89.28.122.14:8080/snapshot12.png |
| Aquarius | here. |
| Piki | i like dolphins who eat debs :-) |
| Aquarius | :) |
| Aquarius | does it work for you now by the way? |
| Piki | yes |
| Aquarius | ok |
| Piki | i can see the pics now, all without rebooting my modem/router :-) |
| Aquarius | ok.. happy to hear that |
| Aquarius | so.. i went and checked Media folder, there's no .hal-mtab file at all |
| Aquarius | only mtab lock or something.. and it's empty |
| Piki | btw, i dont\'t have a /media/.hal-mtab, and i don't have trouble umounting my flash drives |
| Aquarius | hm... |
| Piki | unless it's created when the flash drive is actually mounted |
| Piki | then deleted when it's not |
| Aquarius | well, it's mounted now, and it didn't create anything. |
| Xu_R | yo, mutantturkey ＼（＾ ＾）／ |
| Z_God | Aquarius: seems to be a hal issue on debian |
| Piki | Aquarius: worst case, you can always go to a root terminal and use the umount command, that shouldn't require hal |
| Z_God | no idea about that |
| Aquarius | hm.. ok |
| Aquarius | what's the command? |
| Z_God | yes, that will definitely allow umounting at least |
| Z_God | umount |
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| Aquarius | yeah, but any parameters? |
| Piki | umount /dev/sdc |
| Aquarius | aha... ok, thanks |
| Piki | you specify whichever device you're umounting |
| Piki | that's the only parameter |
| Aquarius | i understand |
| Aquarius | worked |
| Aquarius | i mean.. firstly i ran the command and then clicked "remove safely". Success. |
| Piki | and to see what's mounted, just use: |
| Piki | mount |
| Piki | with no parameters |
| Aquarius | by the way, it works out of root too. |
| Aquarius | i didn't sudo it. |
| Piki | if it's mounted for normal user access, it'll work |
| Aquarius | ah.. |
| Aquarius | i see. |
| Piki | otherwise, you need to be root to umount |
| Aquarius | understood. |
| Aquarius | i think this might've happened because of me fiddling with newer kernel and other stuff. Probably Trinity played its little magic too. |
| Piki | and if you umount something, the Remove Safely isn't necessary since Remove Safely is exactly the same as umount, except apparently it goes through hal |
| Aquarius | i understand that these are just different ways for the same operations but labeled differently. |
| Xu_R | Waiting for server side source service run............................................................................. |
| Xu_R | man, this takes a long time >>;; |
| Piki | Aquarius: if you're using either the kernel from debian's official repos or from debian backports, hal should work fine, i'm using 2.6.39 from backports right now without issue, and the preinstaled 2.6.32 from Squeeze works too |
| Aquarius | i tried 2.6.38 i guess. It caused me some troubles. |
| Aquarius | and weird ones. |
| Aquarius | Wine didn't work, VLC didn't play anything, only audio... and probably some other things too. |
| Aquarius | maybe that was just pre-configured mode that i messed up for newer kernel exactly, dunno |
| Piki | i haven't tried 2.6.38 |
| Aquarius | how do i install 2.6.39? |
| Piki | are you on Debian Squeeze? (i don't know if it's available for Lenny) |
| Aquarius | Squeeze, yeah. |
| Piki | as root, open /etc/apt/sources.list, and add: |
| Piki | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
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| Aquarius | ok. I think it's there actually.. left from my previous attempt... but i'll check. |
| Piki | you can add a deb-src version too if you want, but only the deb version is needed |
| Aquarius | yep, it's there. |
| Piki | then, as root, run: |
| Piki | apt-get update && apt-get -t squeeze-backports dist-upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| Aquarius | ok.... thanks. On my way |
| Piki | that'll upgrade your computer to backports, then whatever that needs updating that isn't upgraded from backports will be updated from the third apt-get |
| Aquarius | ok :) |
| Aquarius | hmm... i've got too many sources here... some of them are inaccessible... |
| Piki | after, reboot to get to the new kernel. if 2.6.39 isn't there, you'll have to specify it for install, but it should get pulled in automatically by the dist-upgrade |
| Aquarius | takes time.. i gotta filter them out |
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| Aquarius | yeah, it'll probably add it to grub |
| Aquarius | like the first time |
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| Piki | yes |
| Aquarius | Reading package lists... Done |
| Aquarius | Building dependency tree |
| Aquarius | Reading state information... Done |
| Aquarius | Calculating upgrade... Failed |
| Aquarius | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| Aquarius | libva1 : Breaks: vlc-nox (< 1.1.5-3) but 1.1.3-1squeeze6 is to be installed |
| Aquarius | N: Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension |
| Aquarius | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. |
| Aquarius | there's a whole mess in my sources.list |
| Piki | hmm, maybe you got vlc from another repo other than debian or debian backports? |
| Piki | just in case: |
| Piki | apt-get -f install |
| Aquarius | probably from Sid.. i actually added Sid sources... |
| Piki | will have it check through to see if you have missing dependencies and install them |
| Aquarius | to get latest Iceweasel |
| Aquarius | oke.. |
| Piki | you don't need sid for iceweasel |
| Piki | there's a mozilla backports that works just fine for that |
| Aquarius | well, i just got it from somewhere. |
| Aquarius | hm.. i got that one too |
| Piki | http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| Aquarius | thanks :) |
| Piki | that's the official mozilla backports page, it will give the line you need |
| Aquarius | The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: |
| Aquarius | libglademm-2.4-1c2a gnome-audio libpulse-browse0 libcurl3 libgconfmm-2.6-1c2 |
| Aquarius | libssh2-1 libspeexdsp1 libxcb-render-util0 libasound2-plugins |
| Aquarius | Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. |
| Aquarius | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1081 not upgraded. |
| Piki | that is a lot to be upgraded |
| Aquarius | i removed it |
| Piki | btw, don't use sid or testing unless you absolutely need to, and if you do, try to avoid using them on your primary install |
| Aquarius | ok... |
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| Piki | http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ <-- that can generate a sources.list for you using some of the more well known repos, you just select your release and country and it will give you the mirrors for your country (or that are closest to it) |
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| Aquarius | nice! |
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| ben_ | Trying to get a minimal Trinity Install so I can run kde3's konsole on ubuntu 10.10 (maverick). kded is dieing with: |
| ben_ | kded [kdeinit]: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: _Z14get_tqt_x_timev |
| ben_ | DCOP aborting (delayed) call from 'anonymous-5679' to 'kded' |
| ben_ | kdeinit: PID 5679 terminated. |
| ben_ | Any ideas what lib that come from? |
| Piki | it mentions /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| Piki | i never had that error, so i don't know how to fix it |
| ben_ | yea I got that. I assume that lib is trying to call another? |
| ben_ | ldd libkdecore.so.4 doesn't show anything missing either |
| Piki | libs don't call each other, programs call the libs, normally an undefined symbol indicates an issue with the lib in question, normally either something went wrong in compiling or something got broke by the devs |
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| jumpship | ben_: I can't be sure, but that reminds me of something I seen on the mailing list or bug tracker, I think archives of the mailing list are on the web site and the bug tracker is searchable |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 620 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=620 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Fix 'KDE Control Module' Branding |
| Piki | Strangelv: i uploaded another screenshot playing a MMORPG that supports linux, and it's still got the wanderfully amazing Hello World sticky :-P |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 621 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=621 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Fix 'KDE Control Module' Branding |
| Aquarius | i've changed the list with help of that website you gave me. Now kernel is being updated. |
| Aquarius | Jesus.. how do i get past this announcement... |
| Aquarius | in terminal |
| Aquarius | what do i push to skip it already.. |
| Aquarius | This version of xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is linked against a newer |
| Aquarius | libdrm-nouveau which breaks the ABI and is not compatible with kernels |
| Aquarius | <= 2.6.33. You need to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.34-rc1 or newer. |
| Aquarius | -- Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> Sat, 22 May 2010 10:22:42 +0200 |
| Aquarius | (END) |
| Aquarius | ah... Q.. |
| Aquarius | dammit.. |
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| Strangelv | Piki: what I'd be most looking for admittedly are things you probably wouldn't want to change on your main machine: how and where do you have your toolbar? What style and decorations are you using? Aer you doing something really weird and interesting with Konqueror? ideally things you wouldn't be abel to do with anything else |
| Strangelv | Thus my trying to get ones from multiple people who have already done this sort of thing presumably |
| Piki | ah |
| Piki | i generally go for plain and simple |
| Piki | never did anything fancy with my desktop :-) |
| Piki | Strangelv: i think i can get something going though :-) |
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| MutantTurkey | Piki: meeting tomorrow. |
| MutantTurkey | 12PM |
| Piki | meeting? |
| Piki | hi Borg^Queen |
| Borg^Queen | hi hi |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: meeting for what? |
| MutantTurkey | for trinity desktop developers and users? |
| MutantTurkey | whats up Borg^Queen |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i don't know, that's why i'm asking you |
| Borg^Queen | Nothing much, recovering from all the storm damage. |
| Borg^Queen | Lots of it give Irene and the snow |
| Xu_R | Borg^Queen: there's a post-3.5.13 release meeting tomorrow, care to stop in? |
| Borg^Queen | I will. What time? |
| Xu_R | 12 noon |
| Borg^Queen | EST |
| Xu_R | yes |
| Borg^Queen | ok |
| Xu_R | I'll probably be late, slaving away in physics til 12:30 |
| Borg^Queen | I can tell you TDE has been getting some praise locally |
| Xu_R | then with a strict programming teacher til 1:20 >_< |
| Xu_R | :D |
| Xu_R | wait, do you have an etherpad account? |
| Borg^Queen | I do but I never used it |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: Excellent |
| Borg^Queen | The only complaint is its on ubuntu |
| Borg^Queen | but I really don't care, its not about ubuntu |
| Xu_R | Borg^Queen: no, you had an account before we had the wipeout >>;; |
| Xu_R | request an account again |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: its on fedora too now |
| Xu_R | and check out what we have so far for topics :) |
| MutantTurkey | and RHEL? Arch is ready... |
| MutantTurkey | also Suse is .... well how is suse? Xu_R |
| Borg^Queen | Don't like Fedora, bad community |
| Borg^Queen | Arch I like |
| Piki | Strangelv: perhaps Borg^Queen can get you some pics of her metallic Mac theme :-) |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: fixing up like usual |
| Xu_R | ironically nothing is cooperating with me right now >>;; |
| Xu_R | ok, I'm going to head to dinner early |
| Xu_R | Mom's gotta head to work |
| Borg^Queen | k |
| Xu_R | later all |
| Piki | i tried arch the other day, i could only find 3.5.12 links in their wiki, said there were pkgbuild scripts only for 3.5.13, .12 complained of hal dependencies, couldn't install it, so had to go back to debian |
| Borg^Queen | debian and clones tend to be too gnome dependant |
| Borg^Queen | or has that changed |
| Piki | yeah |
| Borg^Queen | it has changed? |
| Piki | some of the packages that work fine without libgnome-blah-blah seem to pull in gnome stuff |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: what do you mena/ |
| Piki | Borg^Queen: dunno |
| MutantTurkey | why didn't you use 3.5.13? |
| MutantTurkey | whats wrong with pkgbuilds? |
| * MutantTurkey doesn't get why people dont like them | |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i am |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: like what? |
| Piki | i don't feel like compiling TDE |
| MutantTurkey | with a decent AUR helper, you can do it all automatically |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: meh. all you have to do is yaourt -S trinity-kdebase |
| MutantTurkey | and let it run for a few hours |
| Borg^Queen | on suse? |
| MutantTurkey | no no no this is Arch |
| Borg^Queen | ah ok on the same page now |
| Borg^Queen | Doesn't arch use rpms anymore? |
| Piki | Borg^Queen: pkgbuild scripts are the pacman equivalent to RPM spec files |
| Borg^Queen | yes, I remember |
| Borg^Queen | but no more rpms then |
| MutantTurkey | except automated |
| Borg^Queen | ? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i only have a laptop, it heats up a lot when compiling stuff, especially the hard disk, which stops working when it gets too hot |
| MutantTurkey | and integrated heavily into archlinux |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: sigh |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: I have local packages if you want them... |
| Piki | i'm afraid it's going to fail of heat damage soon, so i'd rather not compile stuff until i can get Ark Linux packages going |
| Borg^Queen | true |
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| Borg^Queen | piki would it be upgradable from 2008.1 |
| Borg^Queen | hi gcsimon |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i already have TDE setup the way i want it on my Debian install, i want to keep my spare partiton for ark |
| Piki | Borg^Queen: only if bero switches back to rpm4 |
| MutantTurkey | gotta go dinner |
| Borg^Queen | what version of debian |
| Borg^Queen | how is rpm4 going |
| Piki | Borg^Queen: 6.0 Squeeze |
| Borg^Queen | no way to upgrade from rpm4 to 5? |
| Piki | Borg^Queen: it's not, that's why we're using rpm5 |
| Borg^Queen | What's the latest debian? |
| Piki | Wheezy, which is in testing |
| Piki | and there aren't any TDE packages for wheezye because it's release isn't for at leat 1.5 years |
| Borg^Queen | have all the bugs been fixed for rpm5 |
| Borg^Queen | Granted I should have said latest stable release |
| Borg^Queen | or official release |
| Borg^Queen | I never include testing as a release |
| Piki | rpm5 works fine, bero just needs to decide on what to do about apt-get, he can either use mandriva's apt-rpm5 port, or finish porting zypper |
| Piki | Squeeze is debian's latest stable |
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| Borg^Queen | which is more likely zypper or apt-rpm5 |
| Piki | dunno |
| Borg^Queen | brb |
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| Piki | on one hand, more people are familiar with apt since apt-rpm is just the rpm port of the same apt that debian and clones use, so it's easier to help out. but apt-rpm4 isn't well maintained, and apt-rpm5 is fairly recent. |
| Piki | zypper is easier to use because the typing is easier, e.g. "zypper in" instead of "apt-get install", but bero hasn't finished porting it to rpm5 yet |
| Borg^Queen | I see |
| Borg^Queen | that's cute zypper in lol |
| Piki | the best person to ask is bero, but i haven't managed to get any response from him lately |
| Borg^Queen | I know |
| Piki | he's showing up more often than before, but sporadic, so it's still hard to contact him |
| * Strangelv hopes to get something ready for the meeting tomorrow morning. He needs to stop pretending he's awake | |
| Borg^Queen | Honestly he needs to make a decision. Stick with it or let it die. |
| Piki | Strangelv: ? |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| Borg^Queen | Go to sleep young human |
| Piki | Borg^Queen: he has to choose either apt or zypper, or design his own, in order to make it work. OR he has to go back to rpm4, but that involves repackaging EVERYTHING in the devel repos, so could take a long time |
| * Strangelv thought everypone running Debian was running either testingo r unstable | |
| Borg^Queen | I used to use Debian |
| Strangelv | "Same here |
| Borg^Queen | But found ark. I' |
| Piki | Strangelv: i need stable :-) |
| Borg^Queen | m still using the 2008 release |
| Borg^Queen | Works great but its a little outdated in some respects |
| Strangelv | I used Libranet to get past its legendarily bad installer, then Libranet expired. After a long wait I found Kubuntu right before the release of 5.10 |
| Strangelv | I only had 5.04 for possibyl as little as a week |
| Piki | debian stable isn't as stable as i'm used to from Ark stable, though, but until i can get TDE packages going, the latest Ark won't be stable :-( |
| Piki | (of course, 2008.1 is the stable version) |
| Borg^Queen | aye |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: go to sleep! |
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| Piki | Strangelv: i'm working on a new face-lifted screenshot, check my link later when you have a chance |
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| Borg^Queen | wb and brb, folding clothes. |
| Piki | http://linuxjutsu.com/~kris/Pictures/tde_3513_desktop_fancy.png <-- looking for some advice on how to unique-ify this for Strangelv's slideshow |
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| Piki | btw, Linux support made it to the world of MMORPGs :-) |
| MutantTurkey | where? |
| Piki | Tibia |
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| Piki | whoops |
| Piki | Tibia has an official Linux client |
| Piki | http://www.tibia.com/ |
| MutantTurkey | runescapes been workin for years |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| Piki | i don't think they have source code, but the client does work if you DON'T use the shell script but instead execute the Tibia file directly |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: that's in java, and it's the only one i know of |
| Piki | though i've seen a few non-online java games |
| Piki | but yeah, java is a given since it's cross-plateform |
| Piki | if i'm not mistaken, most games use C++, and they don't run within a web browser like runescape does |
| MutantTurkey | Not sure |
| Borg^Queen | what is runescape |
| MutantTurkey | I dont really play games |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: one of the oldest 3D MMORPG's around |
| Borg^Queen | ah |
| Piki | Borg^Queen: MMORPG written in java |
| MutantTurkey | I wasted many an hour as a child |
| Borg^Queen | don't really play games |
| MutantTurkey | quite a feat actually |
| MutantTurkey | they wrote an entire MMO in java |
| MutantTurkey | all the drawing OP's and backend stuff is in C++ or using like OpenGL |
| MutantTurkey | so it's really not terrible in that way |
| Borg^Queen | I always wanted to try WOW but only when it becomes fully linux |
| * Xu_R kicks xchat to stop screwing with his away status | |
| Xu_R | back |
| Piki | most of the people i talk to use windows to play their games, and they wouldn't care the OS if it weren't for their games |
| Xu_R | Cedega became free. I'm satisfied in terms of games now. |
| Xu_R | :P |
| Piki | Borg^Queen: WoW runs great on Wine, it just doesn't support linux directly |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: Try Minecraft. Also all in Java. And on Android too XD |
| Piki | Xu_R: cedega kicked the subscriptions? |
| Xu_R | yup |
| Xu_R | it's all free now |
| Piki | minecraft? i heard of that somewhere... |
| Xu_R | known as the GameTree Developer Program |
| Xu_R | and anyone can download Cedega now |
| Xu_R | the goal is to get games to work with Wine and Cedega |
| MutantTurkey | anyway, I dont care about games to much |
| Piki | someone i talked to actually said he'd switch to linux except he doesn't feel like tweaking anything to make his games work. he said people got them working, but they require tweaking, and he's too lazy for that |
| Borg^Queen | What I don't get is. Blizzard and companies like it, admit that linux is the better plateform, they would sell just as much or more games, but they don't port to it. Which is easy since they devel the game on linux and unix. |
| Borg^Queen | brb |
| Piki | they don't develop on linux, they develop on mac, which is a different flavor of unix, so it should (theoretically) be easy to port the mac client |
| Piki | and it is theoritcally possible to compile virtually any software on linux provided there's a library that supports the programming language it uses |
| Piki | they would sell more games, but we have to remember the power that MS holds on desktop computing and the power Apple has in tablets and smart phones |
| Piki | the game companies know MS wouldn't be happy to lose busines, and they don't want any trouble. at the very least, they don't want to listen to the complaining |
| MutantTurkey | it really isnt though |
| MutantTurkey | Mac and Linux have different drawing backends |
| MutantTurkey | unless they are drawing in OpenGL(doubt it) |
| MutantTurkey | then you're screwed |
| Piki | most games use directx, which is MS only |
| Piki | so they'd have to convert it to opengl, which AFAIK isn't supported in windows as of vista |
| Piki | though they can compile the opengl libs for windows and include it in their installer |
| Piki | anyways, need to get going for awhile, if you guys can look at my screen shot and send some feedback (PM me, i'll keep my irc client logged in, or email kris@linuxjutsu.com), i'd appreciate it, i'm preparing it for Strangelv's slideshow |
| Piki | http://linuxjutsu.com/~kris/Pictures/tde_3513_desktop_fancy.png |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| MutantTurkey | Piki|Away: that is nice |
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| MutantTurkey | hey Vandroy |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: can you put out an email bump about the meeting? |
| MutantTurkey | babysitting >_> |
| Borg^Queen | A human child? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: sure. |
| Xu_R | done |
| Borg^Queen | ok must go, bbt |
| Xu_R | night Borg^Queen |
| Borg^Queen | ok must go, bbt |
| Borg^Queen | oops I mean gn to all |
| Xu_R | xD |
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| * Piki thinks BQ is a robot pervert with the way she refers to us 'humans' | |
| Piki | wow, someone messed up the pingus package in debian, there's no pingus being add to any of the bin dirs |
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| Baho | hello |
| Piki | good evening |
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| woodsman | hello |
| woodsman | bye |
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| Qu4Z | So the dev meeting is in like 13.5 hours or so, right? |
| * Qu4Z sucks at EST, or anything other than GMT really | |
| Piki | Qu4Z: EST is GMT-4hours |
| Piki | when summer time begins, it'll be -5 hours |
| * Piki double checks the meeting time | |
| Piki | Qu4Z: 12 noon EST, 8 in the morning GMT |
| Qu4Z | Thanks :) |
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| Piki | what channel is the meeting in? |
| MutantTurkey | Qu4Z: hey |
| MutantTurkey | is that bad? |
| MutantTurkey | I tried to pick the most middle of the road time :/ |
| Qu4Z | Should be fine :) |
| Qu4Z | I'm not a "real" dev anyway |
| Qu4Z | I'll try to make it, though. |
| Qu4Z | I recently tried to build from git, then found out it wasn't ready yet. cbf checking out another 3G of svn sources |
| Qu4Z | I'm a "want to start helping out and fixing bugs, when I get aroudn to it, eventually" dev :P |
| MutantTurkey | there are no such thing as "no dev" |
| MutantTurkey | if that is so then I am not a dev either :P |
| MutantTurkey | "want to start helping out and fixing bugs, when I get aroudn to it, eventually" was me a short time ago :) |
| Piki | /dev/zero/Piki |
| Piki | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | LOL |
| MutantTurkey | okay guys I am going to bed |
| MutantTurkey | see you all bright and early at 12PM EST NOON MEETING TRINITY DESKTOP DEVELOPERS BE THERE OR BE SQUARE |
| * MutantTurkey hopes maybe that will catch someones eye >_> | |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: what about the meetbot? |
| Piki | what's the channel? |
| MutantTurkey | #trinity-desktop-meeting |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: Meetbot should work when you're op'ed |
| Xu_R | start a meeting with !startmeeting <topic> |
| MutantTurkey | can we test it? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 622 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=622 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, K3B Branding Issue |
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| rzs19 | hello |
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| Strangelv | prototype would be a better term |
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| Piki | Strangelv: http://linuxjutsu.com/~kris/Pictures/README.html <-- the ones with fancy in the name are probably the closest to the screenshots you were looking for |
| * Strangelv grabs one of the nem ones | |
| Strangelv | "new, too |
| * Piki thinks the eyes look a little creepy | |
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| rzs19 | who cares about your eyes, the name is soo sweet ;D |
| Strangelv | What is its name? |
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| MutantTurkey | good morning good morning~ |
| l0ner | morning? |
| l0ner | it's 16:13 |
| MutantTurkey | well morning for me :) |
| Piki | l0ner: not here in the USA :-) |
| l0ner | And It's not good, since I need to return to school :( |
| _Pete_ | l0ner: your clock is out of ntp-sync |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: will you not make it? |
| l0ner | nope |
| MutantTurkey | dang :/ |
| l0ner | I'll probably need to stay until 20:00 |
| l0ner | and that's when meeting begins |
| l0ner | and i need 1h to return home |
| MutantTurkey | the meeting should last at least an hour |
| MutantTurkey | dang. |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | anyway I stated pretty much everything I think in the etherpad |
| l0ner | so I don't think so I have much to add |
| l0ner | damn IT professor |
| l0ner | why he needed to delay our lesson so much? |
| MutantTurkey | tell him you have a devel meeting >_> |
| l0ner | I whish he would understand... |
| l0ner | If it wasn't obbligatory lesson I'd just return home sooner |
| MutantTurkey | your professors are not understanding... |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | I just tell my professors I cannot make it and they say OK cya next class |
| l0ner | they'll probably say, ok, cya next year |
| MutantTurkey | sigh |
| MutantTurkey | where do you attend university? |
| l0ner | if i'm not there today, they won't allow me to partecipate in exams |
| l0ner | Siena |
| l0ner | Italy |
| l0ner | and today is programming practice |
| MutantTurkey | I see |
| l0ner | but there is a little hope it will finish sooner than it should |
| l0ner | but it's up to prof |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | well in any case there will be Logs available. |
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| l0ner | and he is fat, short old piece of sh*t |
| l0ner | and hates us all |
| l0ner | becaus he knows we are better than him |
| MutantTurkey | sorry to hear that |
| MutantTurkey | samelian, how are you? |
| l0ner | But I heard they are going to replace him by new semester |
| l0ner | damn, I need 2 go |
| l0ner | cya guys! |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: fine, as usual :) |
| MutantTurkey | excellent |
| Piki | does anybody have kmail setup with a gpg signing key? kmail shows my key, but won't let me choose it |
| Piki | wtf? the menu bar and tool bar in kmail and kontact are missing... |
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| Z_God | used to have it when I was still working |
| Z_God | but I cannot say much other than I had it all working in 3.5.11 at work :) |
| Z_God | that^ |
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| Z_God | you should make sure that you have everything visible in kgpg & so on as well |
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| Piki | test |
| rzs19 | test? |
| Piki | rzs19: TDE had a strange crash |
| rzs19 | okay? |
| MutantTurkey | backtrace? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: ? |
| MutantTurkey | nevermind... |
| Piki | rzs19: crashed X, then crashed it again when i tried to start it again, and kpersonalizer went into an endless loop of trying to start with no X running, wouldn't let me CTRL+C it so i had to reboot |
| Piki | then my keyboard didn't seem to work, had to reset it in kcontrol and restart konversation |
| MutantTurkey | I wish CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE |
| MutantTurkey | was reenabled |
| MutantTurkey | like it used to be |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: it isn't? |
| MutantTurkey | X used to crash all the time all you had to do is hit that key and it would reset |
| rzs19 | you can reenable it in your xorg.conf |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: disabled by default now. |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: I don't want to :P |
| MutantTurkey | I remember the days of xorg.conf and they werent pretty |
| rzs19 | i hope i got today more time to work with bluetooth. |
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| darrell | hello, testing my connection |
| MutantTurkey | hey darrell |
| MutantTurkey | nice to see you can drop in :) |
| * MutantTurkey is calvin morrison btw | |
| MutantTurkey | assuming you are darrell anderson... |
| darrell | yup |
| Piki | unfortunately X doesn't always detect my video card, so i have to keep a backup copy :-( |
| MutantTurkey | Excellent |
| darrell | last night i connected as woodsman but today I can't |
| MutantTurkey | someone may have it registered. |
| MutantTurkey | I suggest you pick a IRC nick and register it. |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/15 <- this is awesome but totally disorganized |
| Piki | woodsman has been registered since June: /msg nickserv info woodsman |
| darrell | too bad. that is a long time online nick name I have used. :( |
| darrell | meeting is still at 12 EST right? 1 hour from now? |
| Piki | yes |
| darrell | ok, I'll stay logged in but got things to do ... |
| Piki | darrell: if a registered nick isn't used awhile freenode can drop it so you can use it. i forget how long they have you wait, but you can ask in #freenode |
| darrell | anything I should do to prepare for this meeting --- haven't attended one before. |
| Piki | nickserv says that it hasn't been used since june 10 |
| darrell | for this list not using a nick name is no pain --- I have avoided IRC/IM this long and I don't think I'm going to become addicted today. :) |
| Piki | darrell: just read up on the etherpad link from MutantTurkey so you know what we're going to discuss |
| MutantTurkey | darrell: I see you point, but I love IRC xD |
| MutantTurkey | It gives a friendly side of computer projects, just hanging out and chatting, also it makes discussions easier |
| MutantTurkey | email is all business for me, no play. |
| MutantTurkey | darrell: did you ever figure out if 3.5.10 and Trinity can coexist? |
| MutantTurkey | I saw you email but didnt really know the answer. |
| darrell | Re: 3.5.10/Trinity: will be testing soon. T packages get installed in /opt so no conflict there. Main concerns are autostart and K-Menu |
| darrell | got to attend to chores right now so I won't need to miss the meeting. open to ideas about testing Trinity co-existing with 3.5.10 |
| MutantTurkey | Okay |
| MutantTurkey | Does anyone want to make any points not listed in the meeting pad? please let me know |
| Z_God | is the meeting already in an hour? |
| Piki | about about 40 minutes |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: reading now |
| Z_God | hmm, seems something went wrong with the planning |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: if you can clean it up too then that would be good? |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: what do you mean? |
| Z_God | I understood we had an 8 hour difference |
| Z_God | but it's only 17:23 here now ;) |
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| Z_God | seems a calculation mistake indeed |
| Z_God | I may be there about 30 minutes later then |
| Piki | it's 12 noon EST, if i'm correct that's 8 in the morning UTC |
| MutantTurkey | Yes |
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| Z_God | I'm UTC+1 now |
| Z_God | and it's 17:26 |
| Z_God | or 5:26pm |
| Piki | my clock reads 11:25 EST, that's 35, minutes from the meeting |
| Z_God | so we have only 6 hours difference |
| Z_God | I just updated the pad |
| Z_God | I will come back as quickly as possible after dinner |
| darrell | do you folks typically keep this channel open all day and hang out here? |
| Z_God | darrell: some do yep ;) |
| darrell | is this a better place to receive Trinity help than the mailing list? |
| Z_God | if you use konversation, it's easy to stay in loads of channels without really realizing it |
| Piki | this channel is 24/7, some of use aren't :-) |
| Z_God | it can sit in your tray and autoconnect, etc. |
| MutantTurkey | darrell: yes its all day |
| MutantTurkey | pretty much |
| MutantTurkey | well I just sit here alL DAY |
| MutantTurkey | ITS A GOOD HANGOUT SPOT |
| MutantTurkey | whoops. caps off sorry |
| MutantTurkey | darrell: its good for small things, like asking samelian about cmake or something general |
| MutantTurkey | FTBFS and patches and stuff are good for the ML |
| MutantTurkey | but both work |
| darrell | i'm frustrated by the kdm problem in slackware. I believe the problem is authentication. I'm guessing kdm is trying to authenticate through some backend like pam. |
| darrell | where do I learn more about how kdm authenticates? |
| Z_God | you have any logs from kdm? |
| Z_God | I suppose you can enable debugging |
| Z_God | also /var/log/auth.log shoud show failed/succeeded auth attempts |
| darrell | the only kdm log is /var/log/kdm.log, which is mostly useless -- very repetitive of xorg log. |
| MutantTurkey | darrell: reading the kdm source? |
| Z_God | darrell: I guess you can enable more logging in kdm |
| darrell | yeah but i don't know c or c++ :). I struggle trying to think my way through C/C++ code. |
| darrell | how do i enable verbose logging in kdm? |
| Z_God | it seems a bit quick to look at the source code already |
| Z_God | I would expect an option for that in one of the config files |
| Z_God | or maybe a parameter |
| darrell | I almost always log in from the command line but I need to test kdm before I post binary packages. |
| Piki | it appears my etherpad account disappeared |
| Z_God | there's probably one to run it in the foreground |
| Z_God | and using that in combination with some verbose or debug options, maybe through some stuff on your stderr or maybe stdout |
| Z_God | yeah |
| Z_God | seems this should do it |
| darrell | within the KDE/Trinity framework, which irc client do you folks prefer & why? |
| darrell | re: stderr/stdout with kdm: how to do that? everything is graphical? |
| Z_God | kdm -nodaemon -debug 0xfff -error mykdmerrors.log |
| Z_God | that should give a lot of stuff |
| darrell | ah -- "-debug" --- firing up VM now to test. |
| MutantTurkey | darrell: I like konversation |
| MutantTurkey | other than that irssi |
| Z_God | kdm --help shows all the options |
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| Z_God | darrell: if you use -nodaemon to start kdm |
| Z_God | you can use ctrl+alt+f1...f6 to get back to it |
| Z_God | I mean to the terminal where you ran it |
| Z_God | and it should still be attached to it |
| Z_God | if you're using a VM, you may need to find out how to send these key combos to it and not to your host |
| Piki | re the hal thing on the etherpad, i thought KDE4 required it? |
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| samelian | darrell: if i correct remember, I ported kdm to cmake only with pam support |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: when is the meeting? |
| Piki | samelian: 8 in the morning UTC |
| Piki | about 15 minutes from now |
| samelian | aha, 19:00 EEST |
| Piki | 12:00 EST |
| Strangelv | 11:00 CST |
| Piki | we're UTC-4 hours |
| samelian | hehe, here is evening already :) |
| Piki | watching the etherpad type itself without my touching the keyboard is weird ;-) |
| Z_God | I'm going for dinner now |
| Z_God | hope to be back in about 40-50 minutes |
| darrell | kdm: I'm trying different debug options --- nothing obvious in any logs. |
| Z_God | trying to log in doesn't produce anything? |
| Z_God | bbl |
| darrell | kdm: yeah, I'm in a VirtualBox VM and Ctrl-Alt-F1 doesn't work or Ctrl-Alt-Del |
| darrell | kdm: log in produces a "Login failed" message, whichis why I think there is an authentication problem. |
| darrell | how do I build without PAM? |
| Piki | meeting in 10 minutes, everybody make sure you're in #trinity-desktop-meeting |
| darrell | slackware does not use PAM. If PAM is hard-coded then that explains the problem. |
| darrell | Slackware provides PolicyKit but using that is not required. I don't have PK running and the KDE 4 KDM works just fine. So the PAM explanation makes sense. |
| darrell | kdm: I see a WITH_PAM option in the cmakelists.txt file. Looks the default is OFF. Do I have to explicitly use that option to ensure PAM support is exlcuded? |
| MutantTurkey | Hello Everyone! we are having a trinity developer meeting in #trinity-desktop-meeting please join us! |
| * Strangelv hastily puts together a 'I'm still not ready but I'd better have SOMETHIG to show' version of the mascot together at the end of the animated GIF ad proposal presentation | |
| MutantTurkey | ok:) |
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| darrell | Just rebuilt kdebase with WITH_PAM=OFF. No change, still can't login with kdm. :( |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: meeting |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: Hello! |
| MutantTurkey | #trinity-desktop-meeting <- go there |
| Strangelv | later, MT |
| Strangelv | Thank you for chairinrg the meetin |
| MutantTurkey | thanks for coming |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| Z_God | darrell: it seems you should try building with autoconf |
| Z_God | based on samelian's remark earlier |
| samelian | Z_God: I think I put support for password as well, but is not working on my system |
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| darrell | Z_God: there is no longer any support to build kdebase with autotools :( |
| Z_God | ah it was removed? |
| Z_God | I didn't know |
| Z_God | I thought it was possible to use both.. |
| darrell | Tim was emphatic about using cmake with the core modules. If building with autotools is possible, support no longer exists. |
| Strangelv | Automake broke compatibility with an incrimental revision one time too many, from what I understand. |
| Z_God | I don't know, but maybe it's the only way is the cmake port is incomplete |
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| samelian | darrell: try to compile it with autotools |
| samelian | if password support is ok, I will try to fix cmake |
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| Strangelv | Ther's still post-meeting discussion in #trinity-desktop-meeting |
| Borg^Queen | hi |
| Borg^Queen | How goes the meeting |
| MutantTurkey | It's over now |
| Borg^Queen | really bloody hell. Xu_R said he's be late so I thought I could work a little later myself. |
| Strangelv | The meeting was tightly paced |
| Borg^Queen | Usually its not :( |
| Strangelv | I'm not used to meetings going that quickly, but that could just be MutantTurkey's style |
| Borg^Queen | Curse your efficiency MutantTurkey |
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| Borg^Queen | Oops |
| Borg^Queen | I take it back |
| Strangelv | Would you like to throw rotten fruit at my presentation? |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: look at his ping time-out ;) |
| Z_God | he was probably already gone |
| Z_God | there are channel logs though |
| jumpship | Maybe a hunter scared him, this time of year must be tough |
| Borg^Queen | Ah true |
| Borg^Queen | Z_God: aye |
| * Strangelv : http://dimensionality.com/tqtde/LB15_presentation_1700.gif -- nits welcome | |
| Z_God | Strangelv: looking good |
| Z_God | but you probably want to use screenshots of lower resolution systems |
| Z_God | so that there is more of trinity visible and less of non-trinity related apps & background |
| Strangelv | WE could also zoom in |
| Strangelv | Also, I presume we'd use a higher resolution for a video than 800x450 and encourage the user to view it fullscreen. Lower resoulito is an idea if we can get our volunteers to do that... |
| Z_God | it should be done anyhow for good screenshots imo |
| Strangelv | TokRa wasn't here to volunteer her desktop, but I used the screenshot of it I had anyway |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: well done, but see if you can slow it does, on fast systems it goes by in a blur. You should have something like |
| Z_God | screenshots of huge desktops are not really nice to look at |
| Borg^Queen | p4 hi res |
| Borg^Queen | p2 lo res |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: it was slower the 2nd time here |
| Borg^Queen | fast / slow |
| Strangelv | I ran out of time before the meeting to adjust the timing. Yes, that's a big nit. Any ideas in terms of miliseconds? I could tweak the animation accordingly |
| Borg^Queen | Z_God: ah |
| Z_God | gif timing issue maybe |
| Borg^Queen | 10 secs a shot |
| Strangelv | Most of the screenshots are set for 800ms |
| Z_God | 1 sec per shot |
| Z_God | or 2-3 |
| Z_God | and indeed 10 for smth longer |
| Borg^Queen | Z_God: visually impaired read slower |
| Strangelv | Any nits on the mascot proposal tacked on the end as an afterthought? |
| Strangelv | Not so much becaues I was ready, but that as log as I've been wokring on it I felt I needed to have SOMETHING to show... |
| Z_God | if you're really going for a mascot |
| Z_God | be very careful with what you pick |
| Strangelv | It's actualyl my seriosu ide' -- more serious than I was about the robot |
| Borg^Queen | what mascot? |
| Z_God | so that you won't have to dump it after years of using it like the Mozilla project had to do |
| Strangelv | There was no discussion, let alone vote. I do hope it gets a lot more discussion time than the revision number did |
| Strangelv | What did Mozilla run into? |
| Borg^Queen | Z_God: mozilla didn't dump the mascot, it added, Mozilla is the mum |
| Z_God | similarities with other characters that were "owned" by other companies |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: they had to drop the green dragon |
| Borg^Queen | Oh yes, and the phoenix |
| Z_God | I would not even know where to start with researching that properly though |
| Strangelv | I couldn't find any open source projects with a crow for a mascot. I ended up trying that because it met Tim's wish that it be an animal -- and that it still managed to meet what I was looking for. Crows can use tools. They can use human words. They're amazingly intelligent and adaptable |
| Borg^Queen | So you want a crow for a mascot? |
| Strangelv | That's what I'm wanting to propose, yes |
| Borg^Queen | That can be done, even if someone else is using one since a crow cannot be "owned" but it does need to have something unique about it |
| Borg^Queen | I like the idea |
| Strangelv | Standalone image without animation: http://dimensionality.com/tqtde/LB15_Mascot_Head.png |
| Strangelv | I gave it early 20th century pilot's goggles |
| Borg^Queen | Cute |
| Borg^Queen | but it doesn't look like a crow, its looks like a generic bird, which could be to our advantage. |
| Borg^Queen | brb |
| Z_God | I hope there are no other software companies with such a mascot |
| Z_God | I remember seeing a penguin before that looked kinda similar .... |
| Borg^Queen | There are several, but its ok |
| Strangelv | Processes for looking for this would be in order |
| Strangelv | IANAL, so I'm not as familiar with ways to look as others would be |
| Borg^Queen | Because animals cannot be copyrighted, only the unique configuration CAN |
| Borg^Queen | oops caps |
| Strangelv | I considered ravens, but they seem to have black beaks. A yellown beak oloks better |
| Borg^Queen | Ravens are my family bird dating back thousands of years |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: maybe there is a difference between real animals and fantasy ones (like dragons)? |
| Borg^Queen | yes |
| Z_God | I guess fantasy ones could be claimed in some places |
| Strangelv | I defirite0ly would like something simpler than KDE's dragon |
| Z_God | maybe bring back Kandalf ;) |
| Borg^Queen | Mozilla didn't have the money to fight. But fighting has become easy now that the person sueing is responsible for the cost |
| Strangelv | A rule of thumb I've heard is if a pre-tween can draw it in crayon |
| Borg^Queen | brb |
| drvodka | whut |
| Strangelv | Kandalf? |
| drvodka | whut |
| drvodka | oh sorry |
| Strangelv | An earlier KDE mascot? |
| drvodka | whut |
| drvodka | i was testing a script, it wasn't supposed to come out here |
| Z_God | Strangelv: sounds perfect, let a steady handed 9 year old draw the new mascot :) |
| drvodka | whut |
| Z_God | Strangelv: yes |
| Z_God | the one from KDE 2 |
| * Strangelv looks | |
| Z_God | http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/large/kde2final_1.jpg |
| * Strangelv fginds the preusumed plantiff in short order -- not the Tolkein estate as he'd assumed | |
| Z_God | dunno why they dropped it |
| drvodka | whut |
| Z_God | I liked it then |
| drvodka | whut |
| Strangelv | There's a company with that name |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | maybe someone can kick that whut bot... |
| Strangelv | But if we could bring him back he wouldn't need to be a mascot. HE could be our Klippy stand-in |
| Z_God | Strangelv: I think kandalf is still the name of the tips program |
| Strangelv | After all, Microsoft learned that while Bob was a disaster, its characters and art assets were a long-term gold mine |
| Z_God | ah no, ktip |
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| Borg^Queen | BOB, I've heard of it but what is it? |
| Borg^Queen | all I find is how bad it was |
| Z_God | I think you have to be even older than me to remember that |
| Z_God | I never saw it either |
| Strangelv | I never actually had it, but I once saw a web site that described it |
| Strangelv | it was aimed at kids and inexperienced users with a house metaphor |
| Strangelv | With integrated applications |
| Borg^Queen | Oh right, the intergrated desktop thingy |
| Strangelv | Clippy, Rover, and other Microsoft characters made their debut there |
| Z_God | it was before windows 3.1? |
| MutantTurkey | oh god |
| Strangelv | I believ ethat's waht it ran on |
| MutantTurkey | Clippy... |
| Z_God | ah |
| Z_God | I did use that |
| Borg^Queen | I hate clippy |
| Z_God | even to get online, but didn't see bob then |
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| Borg^Queen | brb |
| l0ner | i made it! |
| l0ner | is meeting on? |
| Borg^Queen | hi |
| Z_God | microsoft had this while microsoft agent stuff for a while |
| l0ner | hi |
| Borg^Queen | its over, like me you can in too late |
| Z_God | l0ner: it was 2 hours earlier |
| Strangelv | Clippy was given a crappy job with a task the AI was not up for. Someone DID come up with a revised mission for Clippy that users instantly loved. It got shot down, largely becues it was sending Microsoft bug reports... |
| l0ner | damn |
| Z_God | me & tim made the same mistake |
| Z_God | and maybe others as well.... |
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| l0ner | log? |
| Strangelv | If you don't like changing our version number to 14, you're going to wish you were there to add to the 'nay' column, although after Tibm explained it some more to me I'm a little less horrified by it and the damage control problemts it could create |
| Z_God | l0ner: I guess it'll be here at some point http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/lincomlinux/MeetBot/trinity-desktop-meeting/2011/trinity-desktop-meeting.2011-11-15-16.39.html |
| l0ner | kay |
| Z_God | Strangelv: you also saw the notes on the etherpad about it? |
| * Strangelv <[lindaemon]> Log: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/lincomlinux/MeetBot/trinity-desktop-meeting/2011/trinity-desktop-meeting.2011-11-15-16.39.log. | |
| l0ner | yep |
| Strangelv | Onyl brliefly. I couldn't find teh link and still can't sign in |
| Z_God | Strangelv: should be public |
| Strangelv | so by the time I tad the link I was scrambling to look between it and a meeting that was moving faster than I could keep up with alrady |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: can you get those logs setup and send out a post meeting thinger? |
| * Strangelv checks his email | |
| * Strangelv still has no response from his registration attempt with Etherpad. Is it manually handled? | |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: sorry If I moved to fast |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: afaik yes. |
| MutantTurkey | I couldnt really go any slower because no one was contributing in the beginning |
| MutantTurkey | if nobody says anything I take it to mean we just move on |
| Borg^Queen | That reminds me Xu_R asked that I get an etherpad account, how do I do that. Go to trinity directly and get it from there? |
| Strangelv | You're trying to fill in air time, but some peolp could be multitasking. |
| MutantTurkey | understood |
| Strangelv | "anther possibility: if more people might be showing up late, ask if there's objection to holding a 5 minute recess? |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: timothy created mine as far as I remember... |
| MutantTurkey | either way the meeting was good. |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: I started at 12:05 |
| Borg^Queen | please email out the log |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: yes it will be out once it sync |
| MutantTurkey | I am leaving that to Xu_R |
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| Borg^Queen | ok good |
| MutantTurkey | hey grayed |
| Borg^Queen | hi grayed |
| Strangelv | I was thinking in terms of others not having things t say. I'd try to offer more trickis, but I'm not quite in prime shape right now and am still trying to recurperate from rushing together my presentation |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: there is a lag |
| Borg^Queen | aye |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: I do like your gif though |
| Z_God | I think the meetings should be slower next time |
| Strangelv | nits? |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: what do you think of his little clip? |
| MutantTurkey | Also, Strangelv how did you make it? |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: OK duely noted. |
| Strangelv | I made it in GIMP |
| Z_God | and there should be a bit more time between planned start and actual start ;) |
| darrell | Hey, I updated the About/FAQ pad with a response about comparing Trinity with KDE4. That pad needs some focus by members if we want to publish any time soon. Needs fact checking too. |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: it was almost an hour though... |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: pardon? |
| Z_God | also we need the big boss present |
| Borg^Queen | the presentation |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: well he got confused so I had to start without him. |
| Strangelv | The confusion with the start time didn't help. |
| MutantTurkey | I didn't know what to do honestly X_X |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: that's ok |
| Z_God | but next time, what I would do |
| Strangelv | Half the peolpe showing up to attend were at teh end or after the end |
| MutantTurkey | the time from now on will be 12PM |
| Z_God | try to go over only the topics for which he is not so important |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: yes |
| Z_God | and postpone any other topic |
| MutantTurkey | I am glad we came to a concensus about the RElease date |
| MutantTurkey | i mean release topic |
| MutantTurkey | i man the release name |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: setting a time is very hard |
| MutantTurkey | I mean the release number |
| MutantTurkey | >doesnt know what he is saying |
| Strangelv | well, decision, not consensus |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: 12PM EST is going to be now standard |
| MutantTurkey | because 90% of the world is awkae |
| Borg^Queen | logical |
| Z_God | but it's dinner time here ;) |
| MutantTurkey | setting it later makes it impossible for europeans to make it |
| Strangelv | I can offer no better suggested time |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: I know exactly why I made it noon |
| MutantTurkey | if i made it 7PM, you would be well asleep |
| Strangelv | ...and if anything Europe is even more important for us than North America |
| grayed | hi all. thanks for clarification about the time, :) I missed all the fun due to the late fix of MSK time there |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: you made it 6PM |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: -_- |
| MutantTurkey | I made it 12PM Noon EST |
| Strangelv | If you're going hto cut a continent out of the meeting, it had better not be Europe |
| MutantTurkey | grayed: yes sorry, it's always a hassle to get timing done correctly. |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: but I realized where the confusion came from |
| MutantTurkey | I was clear in the emails. |
| Z_God | I wrote 16h then |
| MutantTurkey | anyway... :P |
| Strangelv | Standardizing could definitely help with the confusion |
| Z_God | and it seems you read it as 6, and that's why it appeared to be 8 hours difference |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: exactly |
| Z_God | we only have 6 though |
| Strangelv | Ther are some who will never be able to attend, but that would be the case at any chosen time |
| Z_God | I guess you're are really unused to 13+ hours there |
| Z_God | for us am & pm is confusing ;) |
| MutantTurkey | THAT IS WHY I SAID NOON! |
| MutantTurkey | sorry for caps, using a silly mac |
| Strangelv | People here look at me like a nutcase when I give them 24 hour times. |
| MutantTurkey | i figured, noon is noon. |
| Strangelv | That doesn't stop me -- I don't like 12 hour times as they're too prone to being ambiguous |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| Z_God | the best thing to do is also add GMT at least |
| Z_God | everybody knows their time based on GMT |
| Strangelv | well, most people in this crowd, anyway |
| Z_God | Strangelv: 24 hour ftw! |
| MutantTurkey | not everyone knows that. |
| MutantTurkey | 24 hour GMT next time |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: ok, but that would cover it in addition to your timezone I'd say |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | what time zone is everyone from? |
| MutantTurkey | (trying to get an approximate idea) |
| Strangelv | If most peolp ein Europe know GMT, GMT and Eastern Time? |
| Z_God | GMT+1 here (+2 in summer) |
| Strangelv | "DO we need a reference point east of GMT, say Moscow or similar? |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| grayed | GMT+0400 (MSK after recent changes in Russia) |
| Z_God | Moscow is stuck at GMT+4 now |
| Z_God | grayed: думаешь тоже это ужасно? ;) |
| Borg^Queen | We all need to meet in null time. Back to building a TARDAS. |
| grayed | less info means less errors in it, I'd go with GMT only :) |
| Strangelv | If you need storage space too you'll want to grow one -- the built ones exist in normal space |
| grayed | Z_God: по крайней мере часовых поясов стало меньше, если ты об изменениях от Медведа :) |
| * Strangelv needs the storage space less after moving into a 4 bedroom house. | |
| Borg^Queen | grayed: simplicity speaks accurate volumes |
| Z_God | grayed: yeah, that's true, but it's annoying there's so much time between us |
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| Strangelv | If the clock is still the topic, the Moon Society holds its meetings at 21:00 Eastern time. This not only makes it a little too early for people on the west coast, it also means that the guy in Ireland when he makes it it's in the wee hours of the morning. When we had a director in Australia he was on in the early afternoon... |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: I like your presentation and would like to offer my metallic desktop setup screenshots. |
| Strangelv | "GO right ahead. I could try to tweak the prototype, but someone has suggested lowering the screen resolutions |
| Strangelv | The core idea is to see if we can show things that you can't do with other environments |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: I think we need more time between them though |
| MutantTurkey | but starting slowly |
| MutantTurkey | then rapidly speeding up |
| MutantTurkey | until flickering by |
| MutantTurkey | then Super Imposing the TDE Logo |
| Strangelv | I picked the last one carefully -- Jumpship's desktop is the most mind-bogglingly unique I've seen |
| MutantTurkey | and under neath flash "how do you do trinity?" |
| MutantTurkey | what do you think of that? |
| MutantTurkey | also we probably will want to do this in a real movie editor |
| MutantTurkey | gimp might not be the best tool |
| Strangelv | Any ideas about the mascot concept that I took out of the bag, admittedly with insufficient preparation? |
| MutantTurkey | I'd like to just upload a video also |
| MutantTurkey | I am totally indifferent about any mascot honestly |
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| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: I have one word for you |
| Borg^Queen | THANKSGIVING! |
| Strangelv | The animated GIF solution in GIMP was what I know how to do and enabled me to get something done in time for the meeting. It's not ideal for serious video for multiple reasons -- actually the most serious of which isp robably the limited color palette |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: I have a multipart solution |
| Strangelv | Then there's the problem with getting audio to it even if it can be timed with milisecond accuracy in Audacity to match the animation |
| Borg^Queen | Create pngs, then use digikam to create an mpg, then convert it to flv |
| Borg^Queen | you have two small video options |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: why flv? |
| Strangelv | I would gladly hand the action item over to someone else. I'm always a walking bottrleneck danger |
| drvodka | if you have pngs, use the -mf option on mencoder to make a video from them |
| Borg^Queen | small file size |
| MutantTurkey | flv NO |
| Z_God | the best thing is something that actually works in our current Konqueror |
| MutantTurkey | we will just upload it to youtube as an AVI |
| Borg^Queen | oooh sorry I mean omv |
| Borg^Queen | or ogv |
| MutantTurkey | youtbue is the best place imho |
| Borg^Queen | sorry |
| MutantTurkey | everyone can see it there. |
| Strangelv | flv is sort of like JPEG -- it's what you end up with for certian situations |
| Borg^Queen | youtube aye |
| MutantTurkey | plus we dont have to stream it |
| Z_God | otherwise yep ogv or webm |
| Strangelv | YouTube is phasing out FLV -- upload their new fgormtat and I belien it will convert to flv for backwards compatibility purposes for you |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: does youtube work again in the new konq 3.5.13? |
| MutantTurkey | webm/html5 |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: no idea. |
| Strangelv | I have no idea. I use YouTube with Firefox's UnPlug -- download to disk and play with VLC |
| Z_God | the konq from trinity can handle quite a bit |
| * Strangelv refuses to install anything Adobe | |
| Z_God | but it needs to be semi targetted nowadays |
| Borg^Queen | what is youtube using now? |
| Strangelv | YouTube's primary seems to be .webm |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: I'm with you on adobe |
| drvodka | most h264+mp3 in mp4 i think |
| Borg^Queen | webm is that google video right |
| Borg^Queen | I don't trust google |
| Strangelv | I believe so |
| Z_God | it's vp8 with vorbis |
| Strangelv | So it's sort of like Tehora |
| Strangelv | Theora being IIRC a vp2 variant |
| drvodka | oh, i just checked a yuoutube video, h264+aac in mp4 |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: it's the only free modern format there is |
| Strangelv | Theora is also free, but is an older technology |
| Borg^Queen | Free for now |
| Z_God | actually I'm in Europe, so the rest is free enough for me as well ;) |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| Borg^Queen | doc, YT is using multi format for now it seems |
| Strangelv | Yes |
| Strangelv | .webm, mp4, and flv |
| Strangelv | possibyl in that order |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 623 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=623 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Error Message When Opening Panels Control Center |
| * Strangelv looks at the Jolt Cola nomination banner and laughs | |
| * Strangelv : http://aka-cdn-ns.adtechus.com/images/333/Ad1839437St1Sz171Sq20381842V0Id3.gif | |
| Borg^Queen | is jolt cola still on the market? |
| * Strangelv isn't using anything recent enough to have anyone to nominate | |
| Strangelv | I honestly don't kinow |
| Strangelv | I stopped caffeine cold turkey just a few days shy of exactly 20 years ago |
| MutantTurkey | what bird is that? |
| Borg^Queen | ? |
| Strangelv | :: holds up a hermetically sealed glass cylinder with the amount of X you get to use after quitting X 'cold turkey' |
| Z_God | it's a special dish |
| Z_God | made of turkey |
| Borg^Queen | What is X? |
| Z_God | it has to be cold, with some salad |
| Borg^Queen | Revenge? |
| Z_God | and a coffee flavoured sauce |
| * Strangelv may need a different term to use. HE's a vegetarian | |
| Z_God | there's some caffeine in that |
| MutantTurkey | no i am talking about the mascot. |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: likewise |
| MutantTurkey | LOL |
| Z_God | that's why it's called caffeine cold turkey |
| Borg^Queen | That's the mascots name? |
| Borg^Queen | I can live with that, but I thought it was a crow? |
| Z_God | lol |
| Strangelv | X as I used it was a variable. in my case, X was caffeine after i broke a promise to myself tever to use caffeine pills again |
| Z_God | I was just joking |
| Strangelv | My relationship with caffeine was seriously abusive |
| MutantTurkey | 20 year ago? I was not yet born |
| Strangelv | I was in the Air Force |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: java monkey hard to shake aye? |
| Z_God | as if MutantTurkey asked what caffeine cold turkey was for a kind of bird |
| Strangelv | I managed to avoid getting hooed on coffee -- probabyl because I don't like hot beverages |
| Borg^Queen | pardon, you hoed yourself for coffee? |
| MutantTurkey | a good cup of joe in the morning helps me go |
| Strangelv | LB15 doesn't have a name. It's based on what I courld remember of a sketch I did, but I couldn't remember the date, so it's LB15 instead of L8?? or so |
| Borg^Queen | Soda is my caffpow |
| Strangelv | I had a flaming alcoholic point to my soda can and tell me that that soda meant as much to me as a beer did to him |
| Borg^Queen | lb15 is the crow's name?> |
| Strangelv | It's a code. Not a name. iT lacks a name |
| Strangelv | Just like the robot |
| Borg^Queen | Spiffy the Crow |
| Z_God | Trinny :P |
| Borg^Queen | too obvious |
| Strangelv | It's a cryptic dating scheme I came up with in 197 when i was trying to cram as much as I could into a 8.3 compliant filename |
| Borg^Queen | Ooh "Tick" |
| Strangelv | hmm |
| Strangelv | Tick as an homage to gears? |
| Z_God | what about Timothy? |
| Borg^Queen | Aye, timeless eh? |
| Borg^Queen | Z_God: oh harsh lol |
| Z_God | or just Timmy |
| MutantTurkey | we cannot name it tim |
| MutantTurkey | tim is already named tim! |
| Z_God | Timmeh! |
| Borg^Queen | TIMMY! sounds like the kid in South Park |
| MutantTurkey | yeah. |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: exactly ;) |
| MutantTurkey | we dont need anyone who has mental issues runnin this gigi |
| Borg^Queen | Z_God: evil minds think alike |
| Borg^Queen | I mean great minds |
| Z_God | would be a cool mascot though :) |
| Strangelv | Yeah, setting up name confusion for future meetings wouldbe a problem best described as self-inflicted |
| Borg^Queen | o0 |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: lol |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: true |
| Z_God | next time we can all join the channel meeting channel with other nicks |
| Z_God | and the best one will be the mascot name |
| * Strangelv watches the mascot claim control of the gavel during the meeting and rules his motion out of order | |
| Borg^Queen | Bloody hell |
| Borg^Queen | heck heck I mean heck |
| * Strangelv sulks | |
| Borg^Queen | ??? |
| Borg^Queen | Plus, there can be 2 other mascots |
| Strangelv | The chair actually, if Robert's Rules are followed, doesn't actually have that much control over business once the meeting starts |
| Borg^Queen | The Trinity get it? |
| Borg^Queen | The chair is ajust a mediator |
| Strangelv | I'm trying to avoid that as I'm adamwantrly wanting to avoid any confusion over relicious |
| Borg^Queen | Point of fact: I hate Robert's rules of order |
| Strangelv | "Yes. The chair only is supposed to vote when his or her vote would change the outcome of the vote |
| Borg^Queen | tie breaker aye |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| Strangelv | I have about 10 years of experience with it and probably need to break down and buy a copy |
| Strangelv | actually, it's slightly different than tie breaking |
| Borg^Queen | >: |
| MutantTurkey | roberts rules of order pish posh |
| Borg^Queen | agreed |
| Borg^Queen | CHOAS forever! |
| Strangelv | IIRC the chair could also muscle in if one's vote could cause a tie |
| MutantTurkey | If nobody ran the meeting it would be well offtopic in a second |
| Borg^Queen | CHAOS I mean |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: and your point being??? |
| Strangelv | You can have chaos under Robert's Rules. Chaos is not to be confused with randomness |
| MutantTurkey | that someone has to order it |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| Z_God | what about Ytinirt? |
| Borg^Queen | Well I am the queen |
| * Strangelv long ago lost track of the number of meetings he's chaired. he can probably count all of the conventions, though | |
| Borg^Queen | ouch |
| MutantTurkey | also irc is different than real life a bit |
| Strangelv | wel,l actually with precinct conventions that rapidly gets ambiguous... |
| Strangelv | I believe I've chaired three county conventions. |
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| Strangelv | IRC and other chat systems have teh same advantages and disadvantages. Key one being that you can look up and see what was said a moment ago |
| Borg^Queen | joeytwiddle: hi |
| Borg^Queen | right, I'm off. Hopefully I'll bbl |
| Strangelv | I have a lot less trouble in an online meeting. The worslt is a telephone meeting with all the real-time of an in person meeting and none of the benefits. Plus you can hear all sorts of interesting sounds, even more interesting if the meeting is an international one |
| Z_God | Strangelv: I actually think it sucks IRC doesn't have history, Jabber MUCs frw |
| Z_God | ftw* |
| Strangelv | family members yelling at each other in Italian and Japanese |
| Strangelv | ftw? |
| Z_God | for the win |
| Z_God | when you join a jabber muc |
| * Strangelv will try to remtember that | |
| Z_God | you just see what was said before |
| Strangelv | I've admittedly not been on Jabber for years, and that was mostly to connect to AIM |
| Z_God | on IRC, the first few bits never make sense for a newcomer |
| Borg^Queen | Z_God: what do you mean doesn't have history |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: yes, I never got the history of a channel on IRC when I joined it |
| Strangelv | I lost my ... list well before then. ...and at the moment I can't even remember what it is/was. Mirabelis before AOL bought them |
| Borg^Queen | Z_God: Oh I see |
| Z_God | with Jabber MUCs this is default |
| Borg^Queen | well I'm off. later lads |
| Z_God | you get a large part of the history, as much as your client requests I guess |
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| * Strangelv waited a long, long time to break down and join the propiretary IM protocol and still got a number that was only 2 million something | |
| MutantTurkey | cya Borg |
| * Strangelv waves belated/y | |
| Strangelv | Skype also hasa distory you can mine |
| Strangelv | if you're using it for text chat |
| Z_God | skype has everything you don't want |
| Z_God | and nothing you do want |
| Z_God | at least last time I used it |
| Strangelv | I'm running... 2.2 |
| Strangelv | IIRC 4 for MS windows is a show-stopper if you're tyringto participate in a text meeting |
| Z_God | I don't know what I was using |
| Z_God | it was about 6 months ago |
| Z_God | latest for lucid |
| Z_God | text messages never arrived |
| Z_God | and of course it still doesn't interoperate |
| MutantTurkey | skype is terrible. |
| Z_God | and the UI is just a mess |
| Strangelv | I've recently refreshed my history on the weekly skype discusison i participate in |
| Z_God | I use Psi+ for IM now |
| Strangelv | It still goes back to 15 May |
| Strangelv | In this case the choice wasn't mine anyway |
| Z_God | yes, I was also forced at work to use it |
| Z_God | so I only used it with my bosses |
| Z_God | but most of the time I had to e-mail everything anyhow |
| Strangelv | I was invited to a meeting of a close gorup of insiders on a specific topic, many of whom -- including the person running the informal meetings -- didn't know me boferehand |
| Z_God | because it would not arrive with skype |
| Z_God | yeah it's always strange when people use smth like that then |
| Z_God | better use normal jabber or irc, so everybody can choose their own program |
| Strangelv | I probably should get on jabber again sometime. Can't be where I used to be, as that system went down years ago and I was its sole user for about its final year: jabber.asi.org |
| Z_God | Strangelv: maybe you already have a jabber address somewhere |
| Strangelv | My main hangout is technicalyl a MUD |
| Z_God | many free mail providers also do jabber for example |
| Strangelv | strangelv@jabber.asi.org -- only jabbher.asi.org ceased to exist years ago |
| Z_God | just use the address from a jabber client & it'll work |
| Strangelv | or was it jamesg? I actually can't remember anywore |
| Strangelv | There are multiple MOO-compatible clients that can connect to moo.asi.org port 7777 |
| Strangelv | Right now I use GNOME MUD |
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| Strangelv | before I finally made the upgrade to 64 bits I was using Papaya, only the 64 bit builds crashed almost instantly, and there was no longer an upstream |
| Z_God | MUD is like a game right? |
| Z_God | Strangelv: btw you don't have smth like gmail? |
| Strangelv | In a pinch the user can connect with TELNET or even at least one IRC client -- but like IRC you can't get a history of what's been happening in the background. It's an older techology and it shows in many regards, although the flebixility it provides can be fun |
| Strangelv | I don't have or use gmail |
| Strangelv | Google already knows more than I want them to about my habits and friends |
| Z_God | hehe ok |
| Z_God | maybe another free mail address |
| Z_God | it depends a bit, but more & more are also supporting chatting over jabber |
| Strangelv | I'm washing I had a good alternative to their search engine. For most searches I've used a wrapper: https://ssl.scroogle.org |
| Z_God | also ISPs I guess |
| Strangelv | I've used the same email address since 1997 |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | I was not using e-mail then... |
| Z_God | my English was kinda limited :S |
| Strangelv | a small, struggling computer game company you've never heard of unless you were part of the Quake I gaming scene in mid 1997, in which case you may have merely forgotten us |
| Strangelv | I wish i had any capabilities with a non-coding language that wasn't English |
| Z_God | no I still play Commander Keen |
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| Z_God | till this day |
| Strangelv | I've even forgotten most of the German I was throwing around as a haphazard horror when trying to commtunicate with Germans who spoke no English -- which off-base was most of them |
| Z_God | it's never too late to learn a language |
| Z_God | but you need to have a good motivation |
| Strangelv | It also helps to not have serious brain fog |
| Z_God | someone or certain people to speak with |
| Strangelv | Point taken there |
| Z_God | you will always forget it again otherwise |
| Strangelv | I've read that Esperanto can be a useful on-ramp -- first learn esperanto to learn a language designed to be easy to learn, then try another language -- the example the article used was French |
| Z_God | you mean when you grow up with really one language? |
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| Z_God | otherwise, I don't think it would be really needed I guess |
| * Strangelv is also wanting to construct a non-human language for a story setting he's referring to 's 'Misused Sword', but it's on a Lord of the Rings scale and he needs to write a few other things first. He way not be able to complete it in his lifetime | |
| Strangelv | There are people in this area woh also speak Spanish, but the only people who got any Spanish lessons prior to high school or so were people woh could speak it already |
| Z_God | I'm trying to study polish right now actually |
| Z_God | I will have a test tomorrow ..... |
| * Strangelv looks for a polish video with English subtitles to show Z | |
| Z_God | it's written thank god |
| Strangelv | This could motivate you to try to follow the spoken. 8) |
| Strangelv | ...if I can find it... |
| Z_God | a listening test, not sure if I'd be able to handle it |
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| Z_God | you have smth specific in mind or? |
| Strangelv | very specific, yes |
| Z_God | ah :) |
| Strangelv | This might be it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwChGNOgt50 |
| Strangelv | yup |
| Z_God | looks like polish at least :) |
| Z_God | dziękuję! |
| * Strangelv is compretely at the mercy of the subtitles | |
| Z_God | I can understand some bits & pieces |
| MutantTurkey | if someone speaks during our promo video |
| MutantTurkey | I think it should be someone who can actually speak clear english |
| MutantTurkey | (nothing against european/russians, but you can often be difficult to understand) |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: native speaker is always better |
| Z_God | nobody will argue about that |
| Z_God | Strangelv: I'm going to send this around to the group :) |
| Z_God | it even contains quite a few words we have to learn quite clearly |
| MutantTurkey | aye |
| Strangelv | I'm glad you enjoyed it. I just wish there was a higher resolution version I could find |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: find for a texan, I like texan accent :) |
| * Strangelv is from Texas but lacks a Texas accent. He never had one | |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: you watch to many old movies I think. |
| samelian | haha |
| MutantTurkey | all americans are not John Wayne |
| Z_God | Strangelv: especially the beginning is hilarious |
| Z_God | although I don't understand the polish |
| MutantTurkey | More americans are like Mr T :P |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: yeah get Mr T as a mascot for Trinity |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.taintedcanvas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/mrt1.jpg |
| MutantTurkey | LOL ys |
| Strangelv | Just don't call for the ambulance from Lodz |
| * Strangelv does'nt remember seeing anyone tyring to be Mr T even in the 1980s during the peak of his celebrity | |
| Z_God | I'm not expecting one so :) |
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| samelian | whois Mr T? |
| MutantTurkey | some people say my dad is a mr T doppelganger |
| MutantTurkey | but my dad isn't even black! LOL |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: the most badass man ever |
| Strangelv | Hello. The topics are marketing, accents, Mr T, and a dangerous ambulance in Poland |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.taintedcanvas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/mrt1.jpg <- see the picture |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: dont forget thanksgiving! |
| Raevyn | Hello! |
| MutantTurkey | Hey Raevyn |
| * Strangelv was far more impressed by the guy who got ahold of the detonator on the ship of the indicted in Dark Knight | |
| Raevyn | :) |
| Raevyn | I have a small question.. well two actualy. Is the new DVD out for Trinity? |
| samelian | in HD format :) |
| Raevyn | and the other is, has anyone encountered errors when upgrading to .13? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 624 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=624 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Can't Login with KDM |
| * Strangelv looks for the disc images and sees that the DVD is still for Meerkat -- so probably still 3.5.12 | |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know why slack doesnt use PAM? |
| MutantTurkey | weird. |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww |
| samelian | this is pretty good for us :) |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| samelian | we are TDE, resistance is futile :) |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| MutantTurkey | hehe |
| Raevyn | Yea thats what I was seeing still too.. 10.10. And I cant seem to get the update to work. I mean, it starts updating but fails at a package so it wont take anything |
| Strangelv | Which package? |
| Strangelv | You should be able to get the install to work |
| Raevyn | One sex.. let me boot the vm up |
| Raevyn | lol sec |
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| Strangelv | hello |
| darrell | hello, testing kopete |
| darrell | /exit |
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| samelian | Strangelv: how is correct: "devices was enumerated" or "devices has enumerate" |
| samelian | I don't know when I should use "was" and when "has" |
| samelian | is the same with "devices have been enumerated"? |
| samelian | english is hard :) |
| Z_God | samelian: you have to give more context |
| Z_God | also was & has are 3rd person singular only |
| Z_God | you need to use the regular form for 3rd person plural |
| samelian | what is difference between has and was? |
| Z_God | you know russian right? |
| samelian | pretty good |
| Z_God | was -> был |
| Z_God | has -> у его/кого |
| Z_God | was is a form of to be, in the past |
| Z_God | and the full form in this case is: to be enumerated |
| samelian | I undestood, but is still unclear for "has" |
| Z_God | you can use have to express a perfective form as well in english |
| Z_God | and that is what you are trying here |
| Z_God | but because the full form is "to be enumerated" you have to keep this "to be" which changes to "been" |
| samelian | you mean, "have been" |
| samelian | ? |
| Z_God | yes, this is correct to have a perfective form |
| Z_God | the devices were enumerated would mean almost the same here though |
| samelian | aha, I forgot about "were" |
| Z_God | also, have been makes it passive |
| samelian | hmm, so many form to express a single thing :) |
| Z_God | so I guess that would be the most suitable form |
| samelian | russian is a lot simpler :) |
| Z_God | with tenses, I guess yes ;) |
| samelian | "был" and that's all :) |
| Z_God | what about a passive form then? |
| Z_God | I haven't learned that yet |
| Z_God | so I really don't know it |
| samelian | I have no ideea, I learned english on the fly :) |
| Z_God | I mean in Russian |
| samelian | I have no english formal studies |
| samelian | aha |
| Z_God | I don't know how to say for example "he was seen" |
| Z_God | in Russian |
| Z_God | because I haven't learned the passive contruction yet |
| Z_God | or maybe easier "he is seen" |
| samelian | hmm, i'm not sure that is direct traductible |
| samelian | translatable |
| samelian | bleah |
| Z_God | hehe |
| Z_God | I'll probably learn it some time |
| samelian | evo vidali, for "he was seen", i guess |
| Z_God | so it would really be "they saw him"? |
| Z_God | there's no passive? |
| samelian | i'm not sure what is "passive" |
| Z_God | when the subject isn't performing the action described by the verb |
| Z_God | he's not seeing himself when he is being seen |
| Z_God | I'll ask a rusisan friend, sec |
| samelian | or ""he was seen" = "evo videli" |
| samelian | i have no ideea, when I speak, i choose correct form instinctively, I don't think about grammar :) |
| Z_God | I have the same with english |
| Z_God | but you're switching the subject to "they" in those sentences in Russian |
| Z_God | so that его is the object there |
| Z_God | and it becomes an active sentence |
| samelian | yes, when I speak russian I rephrase it |
| Z_God | my friend also said он видмый |
| Z_God | but that's just a verb made into an adjective |
| Z_God | видимый* |
| samelian | this meaning "is visible" or something like this |
| Z_God | kinda yeah |
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| samelian | sometimes things are not directly translatable |
| samelian | otherwise sounds unnatural |
| Z_God | yep true |
| samelian | you are native english speaker? |
| Z_God | он виден seems to be it |
| Z_God | no, dutch |
| samelian | aha |
| samelian | much harder :) |
| Z_God | the language? |
| samelian | yes |
| Z_God | it's easy :)) |
| samelian | at least, for me |
| samelian | is like a german mixed with english, right? |
| Z_God | kinda yes |
| Z_God | we do not have cases anymore |
| Z_God | like english |
| samelian | english have very much forms for past |
| Z_God | what's your first language? |
| samelian | i'm russian, from parents |
| Z_God | english has a special tenses system |
| samelian | but I live in Romania |
| Z_God | dutch tenses are more like the rest of europe |
| samelian | so Romanian is my primary language |
| Z_God | you even speak it with your parents? |
| samelian | yes |
| * Strangelv attempts to keep up and is also confused by the enumerated devices | |
| samelian | we talk an obsolite form of russian |
| Z_God | which one? |
| samelian | is kind of russian dialect |
| Z_God | where are your parents from? |
| Strangelv | The 'be' verbs: am are is was were be being been |
| samelian | they was born in Romania, our ancients come from Russia, few hundred years ago |
| Z_God | Strangelv: yeah, you should guess the russian ones ;) |
| Strangelv | Do we have enough words for 'be' or should we crate a few more? |
| Strangelv | "Russian has even more? |
| Z_God | Strangelv: you can even type the ones for the present tense :) |
| samelian | now I try to remember if in russian exists "i am" :) |
| samelian | seems that doesn't exists in this form |
| Z_God | lol |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | russian has no verb then |
| samelian | for example "i'm driver" can be translated from russian as "I driver" |
| Z_God | Strangelv: the amount of forms for to be in english is not that large |
| * Strangelv takes that to mean 'we need to create a few more' | |
| Z_God | most languages also have separate forms in all tenses for all persons (1st, 2nd and 3rd) and also both singular & plural |
| samelian | "Я водитель" |
| Z_God | so that's six forms per tense |
| Z_God | normally you have about 8 tenses |
| Z_God | at least latin has and most other european languages |
| Z_God | which gives 6*8 forms |
| Z_God | add coniuntive *2 |
| Z_God | :) |
| samelian | in Romanian doesn't exists form for "far past" or "near past" |
| Z_God | it's also future |
| Z_God | I'm mistaken btw |
| Z_God | you only have 6 tenses if you have a separate coniunctive |
| Z_God | present, past, future |
| Z_God | and the perfective forms of those |
| Z_God | samelian: you know which dialect of Russian your family speaks? |
| samelian | russians told me that my accent seems Siberian |
| * Strangelv opens up a new page in his personal wiki for the non-terrestrial language and starts trying to figuer out tenses based on what he's thinking of from this conversation | |
| samelian | but our native language is tainted by romanian and turkish languages |
| samelian | turkish because ocupation, a century ago |
| Z_God | Strangelv: if you really want to come up with a special language |
| * Strangelv has been told that teh family German dialect that didn't make it to him had aspects of a polish accent | |
| Z_God | it's really hard if you only know languages from a single group |
| Z_God | and not have it strongly reflect that group |
| Strangelv | I know. If I had time, Basque and some New Ginnean languages would be idal |
| Z_God | we're all still talking about european languages here |
| * Strangelv nods | |
| Z_God | I never bothered to look further either :) |
| Z_God | but I know some languages put all properties of the sentence inside the verb |
| Z_God | even the plurality of the object |
| Strangelv | Indo-european. We barbarians who charged in and wiped out the descendants of the Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals, or at least their languages -- all but one small pocket |
| samelian | haha |
| Strangelv | On these nightmare beasts we called Ekwoons or similar |
| Z_God | I wonder if they had a language |
| Z_God | it's likely they did not really have a language |
| Strangelv | Who didn't? |
| Z_God | neanderthals at least |
| Z_God | they could not easily produce languages with their mouths like us |
| Z_God | at least bone research showed their tongue was probably a bit higher |
| Strangelv | Their behavior was too complex to have not had language. Their culture was itself wiped out -- and more effectively. Just traces of their DNA, which means that not many of them left descendants. Small enough that for awhile the dominant viewpoint was that they were utterly annihilated |
| Z_God | so they were probably not capable of expressing a lot of nuances with their voices |
| Strangelv | "It's possibel they might have had a different set of natural phonemes |
| Z_God | ok |
| Strangelv | But it seems clear that they were a race, not a separate species |
| Z_God | yes, I heard they mixed indeed |
| samelian | maybe they not liked chatting :) |
| Strangelv | We could probabyl get close enough to have shared a language |
| Z_God | if you could make babies together ;) |
| Strangelv | I for one would be all for reconstructing their genome and having a few -- as long as it's clear that they're human and have all the rights any human would have |
| Z_God | while I'm not against creating life |
| Z_God | I'm not sure about creating consious life |
| Strangelv | I am -- but with strict but simple and straightforward ethical considerations. |
| samelian | maybe we will be conquered by our too intelligent computers :) |
| Strangelv | Creating a neanderthal in the lab is no different from creating a caucasian, negroid, or mongoloid in the lab. It's a human being. Follow the existing rules for this. |
| Z_God | apart from the fact that you have more material for creating those human being |
| Z_God | beings* |
| Z_God | and it's done regularly outside of the lab as well |
| Strangelv | I also happen to agree with Jared DIamond that chimps, bonobos, and possibly gorrilas and maybe even orangutans belong in teh same genus we're in |
| Strangelv | We're too closely related |
| Strangelv | Which then comes to the not often seriously undertaken efford to integrate them into our society |
| Z_God | we can't even integrate all individuals of our species in our society |
| Strangelv | Adult male chimps have difficulty controlling themselves. Might need some environmental adaptation to make it less difficult |
| Z_God | what about communication? |
| Strangelv | A lobotomy is the exact opposite of what's needed -- the frontal cortex is needed to help with self control and that needs to be execrised, stimulated, and maybe even supplemented somehow. We need tihs for some people of our own species |
| Strangelv | Sign language and more serious efforts at improving their ability to understand spoken human languages. Reading and writing should be a priority to learn how to teach them |
| Strangelv | If they have a placre in our society they're less likely to find themselves hunted or used as disposable lab specimins |
| Z_God | did nobody ever adopt a chimp or a bonobo in their family? |
| Strangelv | There have been a few attempts, some that seemed to take things seriously, but the ones I'm aware of were decades ago before we knew what we know now |
| Z_God | ok |
| Strangelv | the late Nim Chomsky was basicalyl thrown away by one of the researchers despite the fact that he became fluent with sign language and longed to be living in a' house with a fridge and clothing. |
| Z_God | I'll look him up |
| Strangelv | Nim Chimpsky |
| Strangelv | I stand corrected |
| Z_God | google did that for me as well ;) |
| Strangelv | Part ofb the problem is that they're trying to be methodical. I wonder just how damaged a human's upbringing would be if it was handled in the same way |
| Strangelv | Ther's also the loose structure of American Sign Language that makes it a poor choice if they're not going to be happy with what is spoken using it. |
| Z_God | I just read about it |
| Z_God | and also Washoe |
| Z_God | but what is someone takes are of a dolphin? |
| Z_God | if* |
| Z_God | I understand that dolphins are close to humans in brain capacity |
| Strangelv | Cetecians and probably elephants are good practice for xenolinguistics |
| Strangelv | Like elephants, they exceed ours |
| Z_God | they just are not really flexible like us |
| Strangelv | It's acutally very likely that we are not teh most intelligent species on this planet |
| Z_God | depends on the definition I guess though |
| Strangelv | The problem is that dolphin and human languages are rather alien |
| Z_God | I mean the definition of intelligence |
| Strangelv | We have more toys than the dolphins, -- and this is a difference whose importance can't be understated: we live a lot longer than theydo |
| Z_God | hmm yep of course |
| Strangelv | Put one in a tank, teach it a trick, put another in. Let them converse. The second one knows the trick. How does this fail to be evidence of language? |
| Z_God | could be just imitation |
| Z_God | depends on the trick |
| Strangelv | What if the second one never saw the trick performed? I must admit I don't know enough to confirm this |
| Z_God | then it would be proof I guess |
| Z_God | maybe one of the wildboyz would like to raise a monkey as their child |
| Strangelv | To the anthropocentrists, there is no proof. ever. I suspect with the right setup you could have them declare that several people with average language skills are'nt really intelligent life either. Just need to keep them fromt realizing the subject is human |
| Z_God | you know the program? |
| Strangelv | I have'nt checked up on dolphin research for awhile and most of what I remember was murky |
| Z_God | I don't know what their definition of a language is |
| Strangelv | Combination of other distractions and brain fog. Also not seeing non-dumbed-down evidence |
| Z_God | I mean the show wildboyz |
| Z_God | there is one scene in which they hang out in their hotel room |
| Strangelv | What is wildboyz+ |
| Z_God | together with a monkey |
| Z_God | and this monkey is just messing around, but it really seems like he enjoys it |
| Z_God | it's a show where two guys do all kinds of crazy interactions with animals |
| Z_God | I can only find a crap quality version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wc2nQ6zHnw |
| Z_God | not sure if it's really responsible to allow a monkey to drink your beer though, but they are not afraid to spend time with a monkey it seems |
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| Strangelv | I'm not sure how far we can get with a small monkey. That said, I've heard both cats and dogs do their best to speak. Usually consisting of no concept of consonants and then wondering why I didn't understand what they just said |
| Strangelv | We probably need an alternate set of phonemes for our closest relatives and learn to understand them when they speak the same language we do with that different set |
| Strangelv | They have almost the same wiring we do, so it's a far easier problem than ceteceans and elephants. Elephants may be easier than cetecians -- it's only been 20 yours or less since we even found out that they have a language |
| Z_God | it'll be hard though I guess |
| Z_God | especially for cats |
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| damiano_ | heya fellas.. |
| Z_God | to produce smth |
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| Aquarius_ | that latest kernel thing.... ruined everything |
| Aquarius_ | i couldn't logon to x anymore |
| Strangelv | Cats and dogs could probably stand ho have some genetic tinkering -- but keep in mind the ethical rules that they might get up into if they reach human levels of functionality -- and some of them will if they get sufficient language skills to successfully communicate wverbally with us |
| Strangelv | Which kernel? |
| Aquarius_ | maybe because of other things as well, i dunno... |
| Aquarius_ | latest for Squeeze |
| Aquarius_ | ....39 |
| Strangelv | 2.6.39? |
| Aquarius_ | yep |
| Z_God | Strangelv: this is already an issue |
| Strangelv | Which isn't the latest |
| Aquarius_ | that ruined everything... specifically something about xorg |
| Strangelv | do newer kernels help or do things stay broken? |
| Z_God | in many countries, people that are considered mentally challenged also lack rights |
| Aquarius_ | they tend to mess up. |
| Aquarius_ | from my own humble experience.. |
| Z_God | Aquarius_: what did you do? |
| Aquarius_ | as i said, just updated kernel as that Pikki guy said. |
| Z_God | why? |
| Aquarius_ | dunno... just to make it new. Thought i'd get rid of that hal prob. |
| Aquarius_ | by the way, it's still there, i've reinstalled everything. |
| Z_God | that's not related to your kernel |
| Z_God | better reinstall hal |
| Z_God | if the new kernel doesn't work, why not go back to the old one? |
| Aquarius_ | did it many times before. |
| Aquarius_ | listen, i've reinstalled everything already, and no new kernel around. |
| Aquarius_ | so it doesn' matter anymore |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | better stay with what works |
| Aquarius_ | what im saying is that the problem still there.. i mean with "Safe removal" of USB... |
| Aquarius_ | i mean... i can EJECT it, and it's fine. Works just like Safe removal |
| Z_God | but? |
| Aquarius_ | but if i click on the latter it brings some weird error |
| Aquarius_ | though.. other than the one i had while on Trinity |
| Aquarius_ | now i'm on gnome |
| Aquarius_ | let me show you |
| Z_God | this stuff was always a bit buggy |
| Aquarius_ | ah |
| Aquarius_ | now that's good to know |
| Aquarius_ | you see.. i don't really care how to do it... whether to Eject or Safely remove.. i just don't wanna see no errors... that intimidates me.. |
| Aquarius_ | so if you're saying it's screwed up as it is... then it's fine with me |
| Z_God | as long as it's umouted, it's fine |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | the systems are kinda screwed up |
| Aquarius_ | tell me... could it possible happen because i installed Wine 1.3 from Mepis repository? |
| Z_God | it was bolted on for a "nice" user experience |
| Z_God | no |
| Aquarius_ | ok. Good to know. |
| Z_God | unlikely at least |
| Aquarius_ | one more thing... let me show you something.. it wouldn't matter if i had no probs here... but i just don't wanna do anything silly to mess up again... let me show you something.. |
| Z_God | ok, but it'll have to be quick |
| Z_God | because I have to get up in 7 hours |
| Z_God | ;) |
| Aquarius_ | sure.. just a sec |
| Aquarius_ | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=62200 |
| Aquarius_ | here... there's one guy, he said this: |
| Aquarius_ | First things first, kgarbutt, you don't need to install all these so-called dependencies. You only need to issue this command: |
| Aquarius_ | CODE: SELECT ALL |
| Aquarius_ | # apt-get build-dep wine |
| Z_God | it does the same |
| Aquarius_ | and i did it not knowing what i was doing.. nothing happened, this thing just installed a bunch of files.... |
| Z_God | it installs the dependencies |
| Aquarius_ | it doesn't hurt? |
| Z_God | you need to build it |
| Z_God | build-dep -> build dependencies |
| Aquarius_ | i see.. |
| Aquarius_ | well.. the thing is, i didn't use that.. i just added Mepis repository and installed Wine 1.3 from there. It works. |
| Aquarius_ | but before i did it i used the command above.. |
| Aquarius_ | so all i wanna know, was that ok? |
| Strangelv | "Advantages tto using the Mepis repository? |
| Z_God | more packages should never hurt ;) |
| * Strangelv wonders if that's where he should be gethting it from instead of where he is. | |
| Aquarius_ | ok :) |
| Aquarius_ | that's all i wanted to know :) |
| Aquarius_ | thanks. |
| Z_God | Strangelv: debian apparently doesn't have wine 1.3 at all |
| Aquarius_ | it has 1.0 |
| Aquarius_ | strangely ENOUGH. |
| Strangelv | Okay, Debian. I forgot that Mepis changed back to Debian |
| Strangelv | Yike! |
| Strangelv | Wait, is this stable, wheezy, or Sid? |
| Aquarius_ | stable |
| Strangelv | Okay, I'm not surprised |
| Strangelv | This is why I fgound stable to be unusable for my needs |
| Aquarius_ | because of wine? |
| Strangelv | no, because of very old packages that were missing features that I needed |
| Aquarius_ | understandable. |
| Strangelv | ...or the complete absense of what I was needing |
| Strangelv | because it was more recent than the freeze on stable |
| Z_God | debian stable is about stability |
| Z_God | not really about features |
| Aquarius_ | for me it's quite enough. You just have to fiddle around and find ways to get the same stuff as in Wheezy or Ubuntu... perhaps it's not all anyway. But for me it's just about enough. |
| Strangelv | If I were going to run a serious server Debian Stabel would be on my short list of distros to consider |
| Z_God | that's what I use on servers yep |
| Z_God | otherwise it'd be ubuntu lts I guess |
| Aquarius_ | there's one thing.... you have TO KNOW what you're doing.. otherwise you'll know the power of re-installation. |
| Strangelv | Not on a desktop. Testing if I could find the packages I needed on testing |
| Z_God | I already use ubuntu lts on my desktops |
| Strangelv | In 2003-2004 I couldn't. everytnhing I needed was compiled against Sid |
| Strangelv | I'm almost running LTS, albeit not by intent |
| Z_God | I was using suse then :) |
| Aquarius_ | why would someone use Sid or testing?.. Tell me this.. |
| Strangelv | NEwer packages and almost as stable as anything else available at the time. |
| Aquarius_ | i mean common.. do i really need errors and issues every now and then or expecting some shit to happen (though stable ain't much brighter sometimes) |
| Strangelv | ...but when Sarge finally got released unstable became genuinely unstable |
| Z_God | if you know how to fix things |
| Z_God | that's np |
| Aquarius_ | ah.. |
| Strangelv | I must admit with unstabe/l I learned how to use gtk -i --force-all |
| Z_God | I don't feel like though, so I don't ;) |
| Strangelv | largely because of the XFree86 in name only they were working |
| Strangelv | I've been far happier with Kubuntu -- at least until KDE 4 came out |
| Aquarius_ | KDE4 is crap... world wide proclaimed crap. |
| Z_God | I always used kubuntu with kde3 |
| Strangelv | ...and the Automake problem and the time needed to resolve it broke my intention of keeping this machine up to date |
| Strangelv | I tried using it for less than 48 hours. I've ranted enough in here about just how much I hated the experience |
| Z_God | I used it for 1-2 months |
| Strangelv | There's a reason I'm in here, after all... |
| Z_God | but I liked kde3 more |
| Z_God | I'm a kde addict though |
| Z_God | I can't use anything else |
| Strangelv | Without TDE or KDE 3 I would not have a clear path. KDE 4 fails big time. For me anyway. YMMV |
| Z_God | yes, I have the same, although I understand KDE 4.7 is ok |
| Z_God | I really enjoyed KDE 1.0 though |
| Z_God | and there was similar disappointment with 2.0 |
| Strangelv | I can't trust myself hto remain levelheaded around it. At a minimum I'd run the risk of making Gaesslin look objective by comparison |
| Z_God | about performance |
| Z_God | but that's all gone as well now |
| Z_God | so maybe it's indeed a matter of tiem |
| Z_God | time* |
| Aquarius_ | http://89.28.122.14:8080/Screenshot.png |
| Aquarius_ | here's what i get. |
| Aquarius_ | actually, and the previous message appears only when i click again without waiting... |
| Aquarius_ | that's why it says "pending" |
| Aquarius_ | anyone to look? |
| Z_God | look in debians bugtracker ;) |
| Aquarius_ | ok :) |
| Z_God | report the bug if you can't find it |
| Z_God | I'm off now |
| Z_God | good night (day) all! |
| Aquarius_ | night night |
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| Piki | has anybody successfully configured kmail for a gpg signing key? my kmail displays the key when i go to select it, but it has a question mark next to it, and the OK button is greyed out. gpg-agent is running and set to use pinentry-qt and i have 'use-agent' set in gpg.conf. kgpg is also running, i used kgpg to generage my key |
| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| Aquarius_ | Piki, i see that thing keeps you awake |
| Piki | Aquarius_: no, just a nice conversation with my g/f :-) i don't usually go to bed until a bit later |
| Aquarius_ | i see. |
| Aquarius_ | by the way... |
| Aquarius_ | i installed that new kernel of yours... |
| Aquarius_ | now i'm on freshly installed Debian if you know what i mean. |
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| MutantTurkey | darrell is a boss |
| MutantTurkey | he already did a website audit! |
| Piki | i already did a tax audit, i'm paying too much! lol |
| Aquarius_ | Piki, USB prob persists by the way. |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| Aquarius_ | i have to EJECT it, not to Remove Safely, which doesn't really work. |
| Aquarius_ | works the same, but... not meant to be so. |
| Piki | Eject? |
| Aquarius_ | yep. Eject. |
| Aquarius_ | well.. i'm on Gnome |
| Aquarius_ | as i said.. after your new kernel i had to reinstall everything. After that i couldn't logon to X, there was some prob with xorg and i couldn't solve it. |
| Piki | if you just reinstalled individual packages instead of reformatting and reinstalling debian, that might cause a few problems, i think you said you had sid and a few other repos included in sources.list? |
| Aquarius_ | yeah... that's true. |
| Aquarius_ | but i think i cleaned it up with that website of yours.. |
| Aquarius_ | but that didn't matter.. |
| Piki | the website isn't mine, i just found it in google and used it for my sources.list :-) |
| Piki | and removing the repos doesn't remove the packages |
| Aquarius_ | well.. i mean you gave it to me.. |
| Aquarius_ | but it's a good one though. |
| Piki | your best bet is using either aptitude (command line) or synaptic (graphical) to search for and remove packages from the repos you removed |
| Piki | and replace them with the packages in the repos that you're using now |
| Piki | either that, or backup your data, reinstall debian, and reinstall the packages you need |
| Aquarius_ | thanks man. I'll just stick with 2.6.32. It serves me well. |
| Piki | whichever you'd find easier |
| Aquarius_ | i'd install it only if that'd fix the usb prob :) |
| Piki | it might fix it, no garantee though |
| Aquarius_ | well yeah, that's the thing.. issue is not worth a risk in my case. |
| Piki | i never use the Safely Remove option, i normally handle that in a terminal, i normally keep one open all the time ;-) |
| Aquarius_ | you mean you purge stuff? |
| Piki | actually, i think an update from debian backports that was added today or yesterday broke my hal, but i only need it for my battery, which needs replacing anyway, so i don't really care right now |
| Piki | Aquarius_: i was referring to my flash drives |
| Aquarius_ | ah.... |
| Aquarius_ | dammit |
| Piki | but for packages, if you know you'll never use them again, purging is good |
| Aquarius_ | well i can do it out of gnome now, but only one thing, "Safely Remove" doesn't work. First it gets delayed and then brings an error message. But Eject works always, and the same way. |
| Piki | or if you're downgrading a packages to one that you know won't break your system, but you're afraid the config files from the newer version might break the older version |
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| Piki | i always thought gnome used hal |
| Piki | unless they changed it recently |
| Piki | i haven't used gnome in awhile, it's ok, but i felt too constained with the configuration options available |
| MutantTurkey | nobody uses hal anymore |
| Piki | kde4 |
| Piki | unless they changed, but i know earlier this year they used it |
| Piki | personally i never really liked hal, i know the head dev for Ark said he made a replacement for it and that he got it working (should have mentioned it during the meeting), but he had to include hal in the iso from january because he was trouble hacking kde4 to use his system |
| Piki | anyways, back on subject... any kmail users at all? perhaps willing to at least test to see if it's just my system that's causing the gpg problem? |
| Piki | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | did anyone read the TDE HCI model pad? |
| Piki | no, what's that? |
| MutantTurkey | Tim has been documenting his ideas regarding computer/user interaction |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/28 |
| Piki | apparently i need an account to view one... might as well request one, since i'll eventually need it |
| gcsimon | Piki: trouble with kmail and gpg? |
| Piki | gcsimon: yes, it detects my gpg key, but won't let me select it |
| gcsimon | Piki: i use gpg and kmail (within of kontact), to sign end encrypt emails, no troubles here. |
| Piki | gcsimon: hmm... any special setup needed? e.g. anything other than gpg-agent running as a daemon? |
| gcsimon | Piki: mostly out-of-the-box setup (recent TDE). didn't do anything special, except generating the keys and importing them into gpg, as well as givinge them "full trust" (using kgpg) |
| Piki | i tried generating the keys using 'gpg --keygen', then when that didn't work, generating them in kgpg |
| Piki | unless they need importing into gpg when using gpg directly to generate them, that shouldn't be the problem |
| Piki | and they already have full trust |
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| gcsimon | Piki: apperently i have no gpg-daemon running. i generated the keys using gpg on the console, i don't remember how i imported them (kgpg or console) but i used kgpg to give them "full trust" |
| gcsimon | Piki: but technically all ways should be identical |
| Aquarius_ | listen.. what is safe upgrade and non-safe upgrade? |
| Aquarius_ | "which does not remove old packages or install new ones..." |
| Piki | gcsimon: everything i read says i should have "gpg-agent --daemon" running |
| gcsimon | Piki: why did generating the keys using gpg not work? |
| Aquarius_ | in other words... which is better for me? |
| gcsimon | Aquarius_: no idea, but would be good to know - ubuntu system? |
| Aquarius_ | Debian. |
| Aquarius_ | i just don't get it.. how can it be upgraded if no packages removed or installed? |
| Piki | gcsimon: dunno, kmail just won't accept my keys. it displays a question mark, and the OK button is grayed out |
| gcsimon | Aquarius_: strange indeed |
| Aquarius_ | well, it's Debian's updates. Always been like this. |
| Aquarius_ | and i could never understand it :) |
| gcsimon | Piki: could it be, that you used a key wich is incompatible with the selected encoding? S/MIME, inline, etc? |
| Piki | Aquarius_: are you talking system updates? if you're doing "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" on the command line or clicking Refresh in synaptic the the upgrade button, it should mark all upgrade |
| Piki | if not, there's nothing to upgrade |
| Aquarius_ | no no... it's not that. |
| Aquarius_ | i've got updates notifications. |
| Aquarius_ | when i updated the repository list. |
| Piki | gcsimon: how would i know it's incompatible? |
| Aquarius_ | and it suggests that i may use safe-upgrade (with no files installed/removed) or.. non-safe i guess. |
| Aquarius_ | let me just show you.. |
| gcsimon | Piki: no idea, just a possibility. o don't know if keys can be incompatible with specific endcodings. |
| Aquarius_ | http://89.28.122.14:8080/Screenshot.png |
| Piki | gcsimon: are you talking about the different keys it shows when i run "gpg --gen-key"? |
| gcsimon | Piki: my crypto backends show "GpgME" which includes "OpenPGP (gpg)" and "S/MIME (gpgsm)" |
| Aquarius_ | check the screen please. |
| gcsimon | Piki: yes exactly |
| Piki | Aquarius_: hmm, don't recognize the package manager |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 625 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=625 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDM is hard-coded to use /tmp rather than $TMP or $TMPDIR |
| gcsimon | Aquarius_: i read the message this way: he won't install something new, and he won't remove something, but he will upgrade stuff (without changing other packages) |
| Piki | gcsimon: I choose the first option, "RSA and RSA (default)", though it does have an option that says "RSA (sign only)". i suppose i may as well try that one, though i thought the one i was choosing including that |
| gcsimon | Piki: i think, i chose that one too. |
| Aquarius_ | hm |
| Aquarius_ | ok |
| Aquarius_ | good point |
| Piki | hmm, choosing the RSA Sign Only didn't help |
| gcsimon | Aquarius_: this prevents the package manager, to choose updates, that would affect more than the to-be-upgraded package alone |
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| Aquarius_ | so what do i do? |
| gcsimon | Aquarius_: but i'm new to apt... could be completly wrong |
| gcsimon | Aquarius_: why not just let him upgrade everything? |
| Piki | i normally use either apt-get or synaptic, neither display that message |
| Piki | but i'd interpret the message the same as gcsimon, that it'll only upgrade already installed packages without installing or removing anything |
| Aquarius_ | gcsimon, why not let him? I let him either way! No matter what i push... what do i press, tell me? |
| Aquarius_ | yes or no? |
| Piki | both apt-get and synaptic will tell you all the upgrades, new packages, and removals, and ask you to confirm before actually doing it |
| Aquarius_ | ok |
| Aquarius_ | so i push yes? or no? :) |
| gcsimon | Aquarius_: when i choose to update, he displays a list, which shows what he is going to do. sometimes he install new packages when i just requested updates. i think is safe to say, "upgrade all" |
| Aquarius_ | ok |
| gcsimon | Aquarius_: push "no" ;-) |
| Aquarius_ | ok |
| gcsimon | Aquarius_: does your package manager display a "summary" of changes? |
| Aquarius_ | probably. I'll take a look. Right now installing. |
| Aquarius_ | http://89.28.122.14:8080/Screenshot-1.png |
| Aquarius_ | i couldn't copy all the stuff. Doesn't work for that window. |
| gcsimon | Piki: which distribution are you using? i remember that suse 11.1 had troubles with 4096 bit keys, becaus ethe gpg versionw as to old. |
| Piki | don't be pasting a lot of lines directly to the channel, that's what pastebin is for :-) |
| Aquarius_ | i know |
| Aquarius_ | that's not what i meant |
| Piki | gcsimon: Debian Squeeze with the backports repo enabled |
| Aquarius_ | i mean i couldn't COPY it from the window, not right down here |
| Piki | dunno whether my gpg comes from official or backports |
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| Piki | gcsimon: do you know what gpg version is needed? (or at least what version opensuse is using, so i know to make sure i'm newer than that) |
| gcsimon | i have "gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.10", that seems to work fine |
| Piki | hmm, so do i |
| gcsimon | Piki: don't know which version suse 11.1 used. i could find out though... i still have an opensuse 11.1 VM |
| Piki | gcsimon: i'm using gpg 1.4.10, if that version works for you, that probably isn't the problem |
| Piki | unless there was a packaging issue with the debian package |
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| gcsimon | other question: before kubuntu/TDE i used opensuse 11.4. when i pressed CTRL+LEFT-ARROW in "konsole", it would move the cursor until the next white-space character. now on TDE it doesn't work anymore. instead it displays ";5C" or ";5D". |
| gcsimon | i understand that this is like the keycode for the keys i pressed, but how do i setup konsole (or X-org?) to interpret these keycodes correctly? |
| Piki | gcsimon: didn't know about that, i just tried it on my konsole, seems to work for me |
| Piki | i'm on TDE 3.5.13 on debian squeeze, unless it's to do with the OS selected in the kpersonalizer wizard when you first launch TDE, it should work |
| gcsimon | seems it has to do something with the selected keyboard in konsole. only XTerm (XFree 4.xxxx) show the keycodes, all other just don't show anything (but don't work either) |
| gcsimon | i didn't use kpersonalizer, i transfered my old kde3 settings to trinity (just renamed the folder) |
| Piki | did you run kpersonalizer in kde3? if so, do you remember which OS you selected at the start? |
| Piki | i'm not familiar with changing the key bindings, i just choose the settings in the kcontrol keyboard settings that work best for me, and kpersonalizer seems to choose the correct one when i choose the OS |
| gcsimon | i don't think that i ever ran kpersonalizer, but if i did i cannot remeber anymore (long long ago). |
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| Piki | some distros disable it by default |
| gcsimon | it's not ap problem with the keyboard layout. here in konversation (my ICQ client), CTRL+LEFT and CTRL+RIGHT work as expected |
| gcsimon | ICQ=IRC |
| gcsimon | also in kate, or other TDE apps, only in konsole it doesn't work |
| Piki | might just be a problem in your konsole |
| Piki | mitght be worth removing the config files for konsole to see if that helps |
| gcsimon | yeah, think so too. i will check what these "keyboard" option does in konsole. maybe it's just a small change to some layout file |
| Piki | gcsimon: and i hope you're using a F\OSS ICQ client ;-) |
| gcsimon | kopete actually, and konversation for IRC |
| gcsimon | i forced ubuntu before setup to "OSS only" |
| gcsimon | but it is very hard to find stuff like a free flash-player.... ;-( |
| Piki | all i need is 100% working flash and java replacements to go completely F\OSS |
| gcsimon | like me |
| Piki | mplayer seems to play youtube videos that i've downloaded, problem is setting it up as my flash plugin |
| Piki | if i can do that, then i'm left with searching for a java replacement |
| gcsimon | i'm trying gnash. it loads correctly and looks like the original flash-plugin from adobe, but it has some codec-troubles on youtube |
| gcsimon | but i think this can be resolved |
| Piki | once that's done, all i need is for khtml to be replaced so i can go full Qt and ditch gtk (no real problem with gtk, i just want one or the otherm, not both, and since tde uses qt, that'd be where i'd go) |
| gcsimon | ah, yes. khtml.... i love konqueror. but yome sites just won't work anymore with the old khtml |
| Piki | i tried gnash, seems to identify correctly, but can never load any videos |
| gcsimon | khtml_google_chrome :P |
| * Piki wanders if webkit-qt can be backported for use with tqt | |
| Piki | if i knew how to program in qt, i could probably attempt it |
| gcsimon | same, and i would need more time. programming with Qt itself seems fairly simple. but i'm in time preassure with my studies (diploma thesis) |
| Aquarius_ | does anybody know why skype just closes at startup?.. |
| Aquarius_ | i know only one thing... when PulseAudio is there, or particular audio settings made it doesn't happen. However, if i instantly make a call it fixes it till the very next startup. |
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| Aquarius_ | i mean, it never happens while in a call. |
| Piki | never used skype, proprietary protocol, i try to avoid proprietary as much as possible |
| Aquarius_ | well i need it. That's the thing. That's what most people say, but it doesn't help me. |
| Aquarius_ | there's one more nasty thing...... when the call is ended from the other side skype closes too. |
| Aquarius_ | damn.. |
| gcsimon | Aquarius_: skype for linux is completly broken. my brother uses it. he has this problem sometimes too. i usually just delete all skype-settings and start from scratch. not a good solution, but works. |
| Aquarius_ | you mean his skype shuts off too?.. |
| Piki | Aquarius_: i think that sources.list generator website has a skype option, did you try that? |
| gcsimon | yeah. his setup uses pulseaudio too. and sometimes (i don know, ehy or when), it won't load. |
| Aquarius_ | hm. |
| Aquarius_ | never happened to me. |
| Aquarius_ | well, with Pulse it NEVER crashes. I mean.. i've tried it.. PA was shit, BUT... skype never closed up all of a sudden. |
| Aquarius_ | definitely audio issues. |
| gcsimon | btw. skype is working on a solution which make sit possible to use regular VoIP software (or hardware IP-phones) with skype. like a skype-VoIP-bridge |
| gcsimon | since asterisk-skype has been discontinued |
| gcsimon | onces that happens, skype-support for linux will improve *much* |
| Piki | they should just open up their code and have REAL coders fix it |
| gcsimon | :D |
| gcsimon | i even can't understand why peope use skype insted of regular VoIP.... i mean just because of video-support? |
| gcsimon | there are free VoIP-servers too. and VoIP is standardised |
| Piki | if people wnat that so bad, they can demand it from regular voip, or use instant messaging |
| Piki | i know kopete support video chat |
| gcsimon | you can run even your own VoIP-server (inclusing gateway to other medias). asterisk (FREE OSS) can do that for you. |
| gcsimon | uh. never got kopete video-chat working. and it seems incompatible with the regular ICQ video support |
| Piki | it recognized my webcam awhile back, never did video chat though |
| Piki | gcsimon: perhaps you can add a bug tracker request to get video chat in icq working in kopete? |
| Piki | dunno how long it will take, would probably be low priority until we get all the main issues sorted, but at least it would draw attention to the video chat issue |
| gcsimon | i have no webcam anymore. and to be honest, i wouldn't use it. i mean, if it would already work, and i just had to click "enable video-chat", maybe i would consider using it (and buy a new webcam for it). but i really don't want to burden the TDE dev's. i think there are bigger problems with TDE than video-chat for kopete ;-P |
| Aquarius_ | is there any CD/DVD burner that does verification after burning? |
| Aquarius_ | i have only Brasero here |
| Piki | k3b |
| gcsimon | yes, k3b |
| Aquarius_ | thanks |
| Piki | anybody who uses kde/tde will almost certainly recommend k3b |
| gcsimon | indeed, it's very good |
| Piki | it's the best |
| gcsimon | has completly replaced "nero" since i made the switch to linux |
| Aquarius_ | nice to know. |
| Piki | even some non-kde users use k3b, even if they don't use anything else from kde |
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| Piki | hmm, apparently kopete doesn't recognize my webcam anymore, but it is detected by the v4l webcam apps i have installed |
| Piki | not that i really care, i don't use kopete for video messaging, just seems odd |
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| Piki | apparently kopete has an issue with udev setting up a v4l link in /dev/v4l, got it fixed :-) |
| Piki | apparently have to remove the udev rule that creates the link, remove the link it creates, then restart udev and kopete |
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| gcsimon | isn't v4l outdated? i remember using something called v4l2.... |
| Piki | dunno |
| Piki | i never actually used v4l except for my webcam, and i haven't used my webcam since sometime in the first half of this year. i didn't even set it up, i just installed a program called cheese |
| Piki | for taking some pics |
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| gcsimon | what do you think, will TDE run well on an 800mhz cpu? i know this question cannot be answered perfectly, just trying to get some opinions before i try and find out |
| gcsimon | the machine will have to run amarok, kopete, kontact, k3b, vlc... etc. the full package of everything TDE has to offer (memory won't be a problem, 4GB DDR2-800 installed) |
| Piki | it should work if you have enough ram |
| gcsimon | good |
| Piki | gcsimon: should work, if you don't have everything running at once :-) |
| Piki | the ram could handle all that at once, not sure about the cpu |
| Piki | you'd probably be able to get kopete, music or video, kontact, and web browser going, perhaps even an office app |
| gcsimon | yeah :D, the cpu is a low-power via-c7 x86 clone. no 64bit extensions. the system will boot via nfs-root |
| Piki | but you'd probably not be able to have more than one multimedia app at a time, but i'm sure it's doable, especially since a 765mhz cpu with 128MB RAM could run WinXP (albeit slow |
| Piki | ) |
| gcsimon | want to deploy 3-4 of them. currently i use 3 of them, but only as X-terminal to a powerful server, which runs TDE in turn. performance is poor, because of the network lantency |
| Piki | exit |
| Piki | oops |
| Piki | wrong window |
| gcsimon | yeah, thats what i used as refernence. windows xp started out on 600mhz computers, with much less memory |
| gcsimon | haha. happes to me too, all the time in ICQ. ^ |
| gcsimon | i do it even half-intentionally, when i want to close the chat-window :P |
| Piki | actually getting ready to shut down, rarely exit my konsole when i have my computer running :-P |
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| Piki | it's past midnight where i'm at, rarely up past 23:00 (11:00PM) here |
| gcsimon | it's 6:00 AM at my place :D |
| Piki | i'm rarely up that early ;-) |
| gcsimon | :D |
| Piki | on a good night's rest, i'm usually up around 8AM, but a good night's rest is rare for me, usually only semi-good |
| Piki | especially with the cat up all night playing with his toys or trying to make it difficult for me to roll over and get comfortable :-P |
| Piki | he refuses to leave my room, so i gotta deal with him |
| gcsimon | ah. cats yes... they have a way of driving you out of your bed, just to have it comfortable for themself. |
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| gcsimon | i own *one*, but have to live with two to three |
| gcsimon | i have a cat door, and my cat refuses to defend her territory |
| Piki | i have three, one refuses to leave my room, the other two are scared of him, so the refuse to come in my room, even when i want them to |
| gcsimon | cats... :D |
| gcsimon | well, i will try to get TDE running on my low-power machine now. do i will be offline for a while. |
| gcsimon | bye all |
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| Aquarius_ | is there any good audio format converting proggie? |
| Aquarius_ | like... mp3 to wav... and bitrates change? That's all i need. |
| Piki | i normally use soundkonverter, dunno if it supports wav, but it does support FLAC (more featured open source replacement for wav), mp3, and ogg vorbis |
| Piki | it should do bitrate changing, and replaygain |
| Piki | it does wav, just checked |
| Piki | and a bunch more |
| Piki | and bitrate changing |
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| Aquarius_ | i've installed Trinity k3b on gnome. I like its looks more. |
| Piki | gtg, bye |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 626 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=626 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konversation Sym Links Incorrect |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 627 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=627 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kspell Sym Link Incorrect |
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| duindain | is there any fixes for the installer trying to remove sudo during installation on ubuntu oneric? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 628 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=628 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Qt3 information about licensing is confusing |
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| rzs19 | hello |
| duindain | is there any fixes for the installer trying to remove sudo during installation on ubuntu oneric? |
| jumpship | The sudo pkg is replaced with a sudo-trinity pkg, i'll see if I can find the explaination if you want |
| duindain | doesnt that break all of the ideas behind ubuntu? |
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| duindain | does anyone know how to start trinity for a vnc session? |
| duindain | ie for fluxbox is fluxbox & |
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| rzs19 | you can share your desktop with Krfb, or use xvnc |
| duindain | im using x11vnc but i dont know what session to start |
| duindain | for trinity |
| duindain | does startkde work? |
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| rzs19 | you could try: |
| rzs19 | echo "startkde" > ~/.vnc/xstartup |
| rzs19 | maybe xrdp(http://www.xrdp.org/) is alsor for you, there you could have sesman? |
| duindain | that command wiped my xstartup file and replaced it with nothing ;( |
| duindain | no content |
| rzs19 | blah@trinity:~$ echo "startkde" > ~/.vnc/xstartup |
| rzs19 | blah@trinity:~$ cat ~/.vnc/xstartupstartkde |
| duindain | sorry i was slightly wrong it has startkde in the file |
| duindain | nothing else |
| duindain | 2nd command No such file or directory |
| rzs19 | do you have a .vnc dir in your home directory? |
| duindain | well the first command wouldnt have worked if i didnt |
| duindain | and my mentioning it deleting my original xstartup file wouldnt make much sense either |
| duindain | think i found the problem |
| duindain | at least one of them |
| duindain | startkde isnt installed |
| rzs19 | oh you have a xstartup file? := |
| rzs19 | okay becouse here i have a startkde file |
| duindain | i do |
| rzs19 | blah@trinity:~$ whereis startkdestartkde: /opt/trinity/bin/startkde |
| rzs19 | :) |
| duindain | it was customised for about 4-5 different sessions too ;( |
| rzs19 | hm, no backup? |
| duindain | ok its working now |
| duindain | changing the xstartup file to contain /opt/trinity/bin/startkde |
| duindain | works fine |
| duindain | thanks for yhour help |
| rzs19 | hmm you need to set a absolute path? |
| duindain | apparently |
| rzs19 | blah@trinity:~$ echo $PATH/opt/trinity/bin:/opt/trinity/games:/home/richi/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
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| rzs19 | maybe your PATH Variable is not set correctly? |
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| duindain | ill take a look at path stuff tomorrow i just echoed it and it looks like trinity stuff isnt in it |
| duindain | gotta sleep ;) |
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| oogabooga | anyone have abroken or toy or model CPU for sale? |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: I am missing my libkonq cmake module. do you know how I can regenerate it? |
| MutantTurkey | opt/trinity/share/cmake/libkonq.cmake doesnt exist |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: you should reinstall kdelibs, i guess |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: I have the source, can I manually regenerate it? |
| samelian | not exactly, is generating at install stage |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| samelian | you can compile just libkonq |
| samelian | and then make install DESTDIR=/tmp |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | got it |
| MutantTurkey | thanks :) |
| samelian | np |
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| rzs19 | hello MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | hey rzs19 |
| * Strangelv is finally able to log into Etherpad, although he's had a major distraction from everything give him a phone call about half an hour ago | |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: good |
| MutantTurkey | j/w is that handled manually? |
| MutantTurkey | I cant remmber and if someone asks I should know the answer... |
| Strangelv | I tried to log in andi nstead of saying it didn'tn know me it said I entered the mwrong password -- so I requested a password reset |
| Strangelv | Not the optimal activity flow, but I was able to get in |
| Strangelv | I don't know what the delay was. It's possibel I gfot an email that I just can't find |
| Strangelv | The one with the password reseaet was trivial to find, though |
| * Strangelv adds the prototype ad at the bottom of http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/23 | |
| Strangelv | "Wel,l a link to it |
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| jumpship | I didn't know this was a den of hate, and here I was thinking you are a good group of people, you tricked me |
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| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | jumpship: asegio |
| MutantTurkey | 's post? |
| jumpship | Yeah, I was a little shocked by that |
| rzs19 | jumpship: what do you mean? |
| MutantTurkey | Well, think about his side? |
| MutantTurkey | it is difficult for us to express our views, because we dont want to bash kde4 |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: did you see the post? |
| rzs19 | what post? |
| rzs19 | i'Am confussed |
| jumpship | On a brighter note, did ya see Andrea Cascio's mail yet? |
| MutantTurkey | Yes just saw it |
| MutantTurkey | We need to let Xu_R respond |
| jumpship | rzs19: It was on the mailing list |
| rzs19 | can anyone enlight my? |
| rzs19 | clar up? |
| rzs19 | +e |
| rzs19 | what post? |
| rzs19 | okay |
| rzs19 | link? |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: do you subscribe to the ml? |
| rzs19 | i should :) |
| rzs19 | but is there an archive link? |
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| jumpship | I don't know how much attention to give it, but I did wanna say I never got the impression that asegio wrote about. |
| MutantTurkey | jumpship: He is a good person, he is a supporter of what we do |
| MutantTurkey | I want to keep him on board |
| MutantTurkey | he is our key to the gates of KDE users hearts. |
| jumpship | I hope I don't sound like I'm agianst him |
| jumpship | My intention was to encourage, not to attack |
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| rzs19 | hmm, i'am confused... no clue what you are all talkin about |
| jumpship | I guess Trinity has a reputation in the KDE4 community as a "den of hate" |
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| jumpship | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3670 |
| jumpship | I was just confused by that, because I didn't get that impression, many people using Trinity are going to be people unhappy with KDE4, but I didn't feel there was real hate |
| Strangelv | Depends on how recently I've had someone like Graesslin militantly try to cram something down my throat |
| jumpship | Even during that episode, I seen a lot of defence of Trinity, I'm trying to remember if there was any attacking, I guess I coulda just not noticed, it wouldn't have affected me as much as a KDE4 dev, so maybe thats it |
| rzs19 | well... martin says that just kicker und kdesktop are missing, i think other application have changed, so there is much more difference between kde4 and tde. not "we are more stable" |
| rzs19 | the ui has changed. |
| rzs19 | like xfce is other than gnome, or gnome2 is other than gnome3, nothing more. |
| Strangelv | Aside from one or two familiar details DE 4 is something completely different. This will appeal to some people. I just wished they'de come up with a different name for their completely different product |
| rzs19 | things have changed, some like the new one, others like the old one. |
| jumpship | I don't really see KDE4 as a "competitor" to Trinity, they're such different |
| Strangelv | xfce seems closer in many ways to Gnome 2 than we are to KDE 4 |
| rzs19 | i think, ppl like martin doesnt used kde 3.5 |
| jumpship | Strangelv: agree |
| rzs19 | talkin about things, they dont know... |
| Strangelv | He seems to have forgotten it? Or it wasnt what he actualyl wanted so he was very happy to leave it all behind? |
| Strangelv | Aside from some tweaks that need to be made, TDE and also KDE 3 are very close to optimal |
| Strangelv | "...for me, that is |
| rzs19 | someone love awesome, some other likes jwm, others use amiwm. there is for everyone a desktop/wm. we need that diversity and not one that can maybe all... |
| rzs19 | and if someone will fork KDE 1.0 why not? |
| jumpship | Same here, I feel at home on my system, I don't get the same feeling with KDE4, but is that hate? If it wern't for Trinity, I prob would hate KDE4, cause I'd have to use it, the other choices are even further from what I want |
| rzs19 | its the same with wayland and xorg... |
| Strangelv | I wasn't able to get XF86 to run consistently during teh 1.0 era so I hardly know anything about it. I was attempting to dual boot despite the facht that it was a complete non-starter for me as I was running my system 24/7 and it only went down when it crashed, usually with me scrambrlisg to get back up and get back to work ASAP |
| rzs19 | my parents use kde4 and they like kde4. i use tde and i like it :) |
| Strangelv | What did they use before KDE 4? |
| rzs19 | windows? ^^° |
| jumpship | Windows, now that I DO hate :) |
| Strangelv | It also, I suppose, depends on your user habits. If you fit the use profile that KDE 4 is based on why wouldn't you be happy? |
| rzs19 | i'am happy that they like kde4 |
| * Strangelv very juch doesn't fit that profile. Thus the idea of showing off TDE's configurability | |
| rzs19 | its easier to support it(for me), then windows. |
| rzs19 | here at work most use a linux distribution, but everyone uses a other one and a other desktop environment, or window manager. |
| rzs19 | and * |
| rzs19 | what every, you know what i mean. i like diversity :) |
| rzs19 | i don't want one environment. i want to choice :) |
| jumpship | Strangelv: You hit the nail on the head, I tried to migrate, I couldn't make it work for me, I would have had to make big changes in my use because I couldn't make the changes to KDE4, thats not to say I wouldn't put KDE4 on someone else's machine, same for gnome or xfce, depending on how they use their machine |
| rzs19 | ppl like mr. grässlin makes me a little bit angry and maybe it is posetiv thaht i don't have a cellar(you know i'am from austria) ;) |
| rzs19 | i hope that everone understand my (strange?) humor... |
| jumpship | I didn't read his article, I guess I could have used a translation, but I didn't bother |
| Strangelv | I ran into treasure troves of pathologically patronizing posts about anyone who wanted to keep using 3.5. That perhaps even more than KDE 4 itself is what set me off enough that I'm still angry about it years later |
| jumpship | That might be a big part of the problem, Trinity is kinda showing they might have been wrong |
| Strangelv | The direction I see thatwe should shoot for in the long run is to increase customizability |
| Strangelv | Something that came up in here a few days ago was the prospect of being able to dynamicalyl adjust the size of user widgets |
| Strangelv | We perhaps shouldn't even try to be the optimal solution for users who want a basic, simple experience, as that's what everyone else seems to be throwing away years of design work to pursue. Not everyone wants this. |
| Strangelv | I certianly don't. |
| jumpship | widgets as in kicker plugins, or buttons, checkboxes, etc? |
| Strangelv | I'm the complained about user or developer who never met a control I didn't like |
| Strangelv | "yes |
| Strangelv | buttons, scroll bars, radio buttons checkboxes progress meters |
| Strangelv | Someone mentioned that he didn't like the one I was using because it was too large for his tastes |
| jumpship | isn't that already possible to some extent? |
| jumpship | themes |
| Strangelv | "if I were going to make a size adjust ment I'd want to make things a little larger -- more than a little with a dispaly with a higher screen resolution |
| Strangelv | "Also, just how much moer control could we be giving users over their window decorations and widget style? |
| jumpship | I've never looked into the theme engine, I wonder how much room for adjustment there is |
| Strangelv | I don't know how it works and I need to |
| jumpship | It seems it requires coding in c++ (at least kwin themes), it would be nice if it themes were user creatable, but I imagine that would reduce functionality |
| Strangelv | Could we create a special user-customizable one? |
| jumpship | I don't see why not, but I'm a no coder |
| Strangelv | "have a paisley toolbar and rally think border,s razor thin scrollbars and a poorly tiling plaid background if that's what the user wants. 8) |
| Strangelv | "not toolbar. I can't think of the correct term. Complication is we presently have things separated between 'style' and 'decorations' -- we might be able to thinsk of a better way to arrange things. |
| jumpship | oh wait, that might alreay exist, trying to find out if what I'm reading is about kde3 |
| Strangelv | At a user interface level we're still pretty indistinguishable from KDE 3. It's under the hood where some things have become unrecognizable |
| jumpship | I mean this page I'm reading, I can't seem to find any official documentation |
| Strangelv | The orliginal and perhays no longer main desire to migrate to Qt4, descarding Automake after it broke compatibility one time too many during an incrimental revision, trying to avoid collisions with KDE 4... what other things have been our driving force? Besides the usual flow of keeping up with changes in packages we depend on? |
| jumpship | I'd guess customizability, but you'd have a better handle on the project than I would, I'm just a bystander yet |
| jumpship | anyway, I found this mention of Pixmap themes for kwin |
| Strangelv | I'm not one of the coders. I've spent most of my time attempting to wokr on marketing and branding |
| Strangelv | Wel,l that and getting hopelessyl sidetracked by my other already too numerous commitments |
| Strangelv | I never would have normlly gotten involved with this sort of thing. KDE 4 jeopardized almost everything I do, however |
| Strangelv | Especially wvhen I read about how militant some of the developers were at doing everything short of forcing users at gunpoint ot switch over |
| jumpship | Same here, I've never been this interested in any software project before, I just wish I could code |
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| Strangelv | jumpship: what can you think of that you might be able to offer? Graphics? help text? testing? other? not sure? |
| Strangelv | That needs to be a FAQ section -- 'how can I help?' |
| jumpship | I just discovered something I didn't know was possible, trinity supports IceWM pixmap themes |
| jumpship | I don't know what I could do to help, I've been reading a lot to maybe try some coding, but it's been slow going |
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| Strangelv | Maybe you can do research. 8) |
| Strangelv | I didn't know our themes were compatible with iceWM |
| Strangelv | That was the default that came with Libranet, which is how i ended up running KDE 2 and 3 under GDM instead of KDM |
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| Strangelv | Do you have an Etherpad account? |
| jumpship | not yet, but I can get at most of the pads as long as I have a link to the pad, I can't seem to get a list |
| Strangelv | I'm also having trouble with that. I was thinking mostly in terms of a place for you to type up what you find out |
| Strangelv | "Where others can see |
| Strangelv | I got an account by signing up and waiting a day, signing in and being told I |
| Strangelv | entered the wrong passworkd, then requesting an email to change my password. |
| Strangelv | Any cat who considers getting hit by the pantry dor to be part of the procedure for getting fed would approve. 8) |
| jumpship | darn, gotta go, bbl |
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| rzs19 | so, i go, see you all later :) |
| rzs19 | and - DAMN IMPORTAT - i want TDE merchandise! I need a new T-Shirt and a new Keyring(or how it will be called in english - i hope you know what i want) |
| rzs19 | mean* |
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| * Strangelv hmms | |
| Strangelv | Who wants to set up the CafePress site? Anyone who's set one up before? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 629 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=629 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, libjpeg dependency on Debian and Ubuntu |
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| damiano | hi there |
| * damiano <== Aquarius | |
| damiano | so you'd now from now on |
| Strangelv | Reason for the change? |
| * Strangelv isn't sure why somenoe would change one's cognomen. Admittedly, he didn't get one until he was in his 20s and has kept it with minor adaptations ever since | |
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| damiano | well... it's my account name on Debian.. and also Aquarius is occupied here by someone. |
| Strangelv | So we had two aquarii? |
| Strangelv | Or is that just on this IRC server |
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| Strangelv | wb |
| Strangelv | The topics are marketing, TDE branded products,. and the team member formerly known as Aquarius |
| Strangelv | "oh, and things wve might be able to swipe fromt IceWM |
| damiano | yeah |
| damiano | two probably. |
| damiano | well i'm the one with former audio prob and deep tab buttons obsession :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 630 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=630 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMail issue with gpg keys |
| Strangelv | "Deep tab buttons. The topmost application is the pushed button, right? |
| damiano | Z_God, hoi hoi |
| Strangelv | Push one button and the last pushed button pops back up? |
| Z_God | damiano: hi |
| damiano | exactly |
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| damiano | Strangelv, and it's been fixed. Dunno if someone took my request or not, but it's alright now; |
| Strangelv | "Hello |
| Strangelv | I can't say as I'm still using 12 |
| damiano | it looks like KDE 3.0 tabs now |
| damiano | i wonder who did it though... probably someone heard me, but nobody speaks of it... |
| damiano | Strangelv, you should upgrade, 13 is ok |
| Strangelv | My main memory with 3.0 is that after I installed the second time my menus permanantly disappeared. I still have the HD for this system somewhere |
| damiano | well... TDE is not KDE ;) |
| Strangelv | Just set the repository and apt-get dist-upgrade? My plan at present is to fix networking on my notebook and test upgrading to 13 and the current version of Ubuntu on it first |
| Strangelv | The probrlem with my menus was the transition code was there in 3.0 but not in 3.1 |
| Strangelv | ...and my install disk was 2.x |
| Strangelv | ...and I didn' have the money to buy Liblanet 3.0 during the brief windhow it was available anywhere at any price |
| damiano | well... i dunno how to do it actually. |
| damiano | maybe to delete old one and install newer... |
| Strangelv | KDE 2 -> KDE 3 a completely historical problem anyway |
| Borg^Queen | What's distro have the latest release of tde stock |
| Borg^Queen | or do we have a fresh iso |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: I didn't have that many problems |
| Borg^Queen | the switch from kde2 to kde3, the biggest problem was konq crashing every now and then. |
| Strangelv | I didn't have that kind of problem when it was 2 -> 3.0 |
| Z_God | hah, you all remember the switch from 1 -> 2? |
| Strangelv | I had to reinstall sometime after that and 3.0 was no longer available in any respository I knew of as an intermediate step |
| Borg^Queen | What did you have? Do we have an ISO release, like a kubuntu? |
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| Borg^Queen | Z_God: its was ok, just had to learn a bunch of new stuff |
| Borg^Queen | hi MutantTurkey |
| Borg^Queen | but I entered during the switch from 1 to 2 |
| * Z_God is happy he's not the only old person here | |
| Strangelv | I missed 1 -> 2 as I didn't have a usable desktop until afterwords. I kept looking at the candy store dselect was offering and loaded up on packages that then failed to install and that was my installation. |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| Borg^Queen | I'm always careful, only a couple of packages at a time. |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| Borg^Queen | using rpms it was easy |
| Borg^Queen | hey |
| MutantTurkey | WOOHOO MY favorite band just reunited with their ex drummer! |
| Borg^Queen | So no ISOs? |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| Borg^Queen | What band? |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: not yet |
| Z_God | if you want a trinity only system, the best thing is still installing a commandline only ubuntu |
| Borg^Queen | rats |
| Z_God | and then adding the repos to that |
| Borg^Queen | I hate ubuntu, no offense |
| Strangelv | On at least one system I started with Ubuntustudia. I believe that's teh one running in my office |
| Strangelv | ubuntu isn't what it used to be. I'm open to suggestions for a Debian-sbased replacement that's as good as it used to be |
| Borg^Queen | isn't that a educational version? |
| Strangelv | It's the musician/editor/producer aimed version |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: aye the only good release of ubuntu was the first couple |
| MutantTurkey | I hate ubuntu as well. |
| Strangelv | So where did Ubuntu go wrong and what would we want to rip out in a custom TDE-centric distro that had access to its amazingly well supported package base? |
| damiano | Borg^Queen, what are you using then if you hate Ubuntu? |
| samelian | hey, anybody have a computer/laptop with host pluggable battery or something like this? |
| Strangelv | Is Ubuntu still loaded with gotchas for mixing its packages with regular Debian? |
| samelian | host = hot* |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: I don't trust What's his name, shuttfleford or worth, whatever |
| Borg^Queen | damiano: I use the releases of kubuntu rolled by Tim |
| damiano | ah |
| samelian | i will need to check my layer between TDE and DBus/UPower |
| Borg^Queen | Strangelv: yes and no |
| MutantTurkey | shuttleworth |
| Strangelv | "I'm not sure what constitutes not hot pluggable. You plug the bttery in and the system crashes or shuts down or loses its magic smoke? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: I do. |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: that's the guy, don't trust him |
| MutantTurkey | a pluggable battery or a laptop battery? |
| MutantTurkey | yeah.... |
| MutantTurkey | not sure either |
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| samelian | I will need to check if events triggered when a new battery is plugged |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: I can do that |
| * Strangelv 's notebook has network problems that he has yet to solve. He can't even connect with a cable right now. He should probably test with a LiveCD to rule out hardware trouble | |
| Borg^Queen | samelian: what model laptop, never heard of a hotpluggable bat for a lt |
| MutantTurkey | just pull out the battery while on regular laptop |
| samelian | ok, I will tell you when I'm ready with interface |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: mine is. |
| MutantTurkey | I can take it out and it stays on. |
| Borg^Queen | cool |
| MutantTurkey | at least. |
| MutantTurkey | then replu |
| Borg^Queen | Hmm careful |
| Borg^Queen | Are you sure you can do that |
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| samelian | i won't to risk to unplug my battery when the laptop is running :) |
| Borg^Queen | hi slacky |
| Strangelv | My notebook is running 12 and Meerkat, so it's not good for testing anything current |
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| Borg^Queen | I don't keep laptops, I fix them up and donate them to kollige stooodents and the home bound |
| Borg^Queen | but I realize, I should keep a few for testing. I mostly get rubbish for trade ins but I also get Ibms too. |
| Strangelv | For a few years that was what I did almost everything on because I didn't have a solution for installing a desktop in my cramped and seriously cluttered bedroom |
| Borg^Queen | brb |
| Borg^Queen | Ah, I always made room for a desktop. I prefer them to LTs |
| Strangelv | Actually if there was a LiveCD image with what needed ot be tested i could do it that awy |
| Borg^Queen | brb |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: you accept a binary from me to make a test? |
| Strangelv | I stopped using notebooks for the most part when I solved that problem. My main problem now is finding two affordable Socket F fans so that I no longer have a workstation at one end of my house that can be heard from the other |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: sure |
| samelian | hang on |
| MutantTurkey | x86_64 |
| MutantTurkey | build it statically? |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: wget thel.ro/upower_test |
| samelian | no, x86 |
| samelian | hmm, will not working |
| MutantTurkey | no it won |
| MutantTurkey | can you build a 64bit binary? |
| samelian | nope, I have a 64 bit machine prepared for TDE |
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| samelian | hang on, I will give you sources |
| MutantTurkey | gcc -m64 |
| samelian | I hope will be compilable |
| MutantTurkey | that will build it in 64bits |
| MutantTurkey | afaik |
| samelian | maybe, but my tde is 32 bit |
| MutantTurkey | :/ |
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| MutantTurkey | let me try |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: wget thel.ro/eventloop.tar.gz |
| samelian | should work, is cmake based |
| MutantTurkey | cant build it |
| MutantTurkey | did you hardwire the moc lcation? |
| MutantTurkey | make[2]: /usr/qt/3/bin/moc: Command not found |
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| MutantTurkey | hey chaky |
| samelian | delete alt cmake cache files |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| samelian | ah, no |
| samelian | check top level cmake |
| samelian | and put correct path |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| Borg^Queen | hi chaky |
| MutantTurkey | got it |
| MutantTurkey | got it |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | No rule to make target /opt/trinity/lib/libkglib.so.0, needed by eventloop |
| samelian | I think can be removed |
| samelian | I do not use it anymore |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: what does that mean, the error |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| samelian | meaning that libkglib.so.0 doesn't on his system |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| samelian | is one of mine earlier attempts |
| Borg^Queen | doesn't what |
| MutantTurkey | do you want a backtrace or anything? |
| samelian | a bridge betwen TDE and glib |
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| damiano | does anybody know, is there a way to record skype without using skype recorder? |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: you can run it? |
| MutantTurkey | recording off of /dev/video |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: yes |
| Borg^Queen | damiano: what do you mean |
| damiano | i mean audio |
| damiano | to record convos |
| samelian | is enough a copy paste of output |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: okay |
| Borg^Queen | Oh yes, use rezound or audacity or soniK |
| MutantTurkey | let me try |
| damiano | Borg^Queen, does it really work like that? Would be cool |
| damiano | gonna try with Audacity |
| Borg^Queen | set the reording app to record from the internal output |
| damiano | thanks! |
| damiano | :) |
| damiano | i'll give it a shot |
| damiano | i knew it's possible without skype recorder |
| Borg^Queen | good luck it helps of you have software mixing |
| damiano | yeah, i do. |
| damiano | since not long ago |
| damiano | had to update ALSA, and Z_God helped me with that |
| Borg^Queen | ok good, I know it works for me because I've done the same. |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: http://pastebin.com/ANyZB00U |
| MutantTurkey | that is the output of of taking battery out and back in |
| damiano | but i had to compile it, it's not available for Debian as deb.. |
| samelian | nice, there is little error |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: have you seen Fat-Zer latel |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: all is okay? |
| damiano | now sound is even nice than in Windows.. sound there is a bit fuzzy.. |
| samelian | I pasted by mistake "remove" on add "procedure" |
| damiano | nicer* |
| Borg^Queen | Nope, not for a long time, but I've also been off for a while too |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: replate line #359 in UPower_TClient_p.cpp |
| samelian | with qWarning("Device added: %s", path.latin1()); |
| MutantTurkey | replate? |
| samelian | replace :) |
| damiano | works!! |
| MutantTurkey | okay :D |
| Z_God | damiano: you actually have a deb now |
| damiano | Audacity rocks |
| damiano | Z_God, i know |
| damiano | Z_God, but i had to make it, had i not? |
| Z_God | yep, but also based on another deb |
| damiano | ah.. |
| Z_God | there is also the option of really doing it with only source packages |
| Z_God | but that is significantly messier |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: what is the reason for using qt? |
| MutantTurkey | isnt that just slow? |
| MutantTurkey | let me recompile |
| damiano | well thanks again man.. without you i'd never have made it. Furthermore this chan has been more helpful to me in all the ways than Debian support one. |
| damiano | Z_God, so shall i keep the deb for future? |
| Z_God | I guess the debian one is overcrowded |
| Z_God | damiano: if you'll be using the same kernel, then yes |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: is a tde layer, qt is required :) |
| Z_God | otherwise, just compile it again |
| damiano | aha, goit it |
| damiano | thanks :) |
| damiano | it's overcrowded yes, but of no advantage |
| damiano | there are only questions, but no answers ;) |
| Z_God | yes, that's the problem of the overcrowdedness |
| Z_God | I had the same when I tried to ask smth about ubuntu |
| Strangelv | Taht sounds like teh Ubunut channel I was in. No one answeerd my questions normally, I spent all my time helping other pe;ople with their problems, and got in trouble for telling pople to create a root password... |
| Strangelv | "Things to change in an ubuntu package using distro: have a root password |
| Strangelv | anyone who would run away scraming fgorm teh idea is probably not using our desktop environment |
| Borg^Queen | ? |
| Z_God | I don't get it either |
| Z_God | I avoid root passwords as well now |
| damiano | you know what, if all those people knew that help is being held better here they'd all just kick in here |
| Borg^Queen | oh hell no. I always have a root password |
| damiano | and thank goodness they don't know it :) |
| Z_God | I don't see the point of having one if sudo is secure |
| Strangelv | I have a minimum of one root console running at all times. Actually two. One in konsole the other in TTY2 |
| Strangelv | "Frequantly another in TTY3 |
| Z_God | I luckily do not need to do system administration on my own boxes so often |
| MutantTurkey | http://pastebin.com/zmxk5Acr |
| Strangelv | My understanding is Sudo isn't more secure, but itas also a lot more typing. I suppose it depends on how long your password is... |
| Z_God | Strangelv: your setup is not secury outside of a private environment |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: cool, working as expected |
| samelian | thanks |
| MutantTurkey | ok awesome |
| Borg^Queen | its a phrase in Gealic |
| Z_God | someone could walk in & have root on your box |
| Z_God | secure* |
| MutantTurkey | and qt is required? |
| samelian | this layer will stay between TDE and UPower |
| MutantTurkey | is it interacting with dbus or what? |
| Strangelv | Yes, I'm rlelyingo n my being in a privaet environment |
| samelian | yes |
| Strangelv | So other's mileage may vary substantially |
| Borg^Queen | aye |
| Z_God | at work this is a no-no |
| Strangelv | so maybe a root password is held as an option |
| MutantTurkey | so do programs directly functions? or do they call dbus? |
| samelian | I will create a constellation of layers between TDE and upower, udisk, networkmanager etc |
| samelian | call dbus |
| samelian | then we will just create some nice interfaces for network, power, disk management |
| MutantTurkey | awesome |
| MutantTurkey | you rock! |
| samelian | will be a kind of interface between TDE and Linux ecosystem |
| samelian | i tell you, TDE will be much nicer than KDE4 :) |
| * Strangelv cheers loudly | |
| samelian | at least from developer perspective |
| MutantTurkey | well definitely |
| MutantTurkey | this is truely awesome |
| MutantTurkey | you suspect it will be ready for R14? |
| * MutantTurkey rather likes calling it R14 instead of 3.5.14 | |
| samelian | I think yes, I will recreate KPowersave, based on this new upower layer |
| samelian | I intent to make kcontrol module for this |
| MutantTurkey | excellent |
| Xu_R | yo, people :) |
| MutantTurkey | that is good |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: yo samelian is making good progress on Upower |
| Xu_R | w00t! :D |
| samelian | I hope until next release we will drop HAL |
| damiano | can anyone write something to me? Either by the nickname or privately to check sound notification |
| samelian | damiano: ping |
| damiano | hm... |
| damiano | nothing |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: pong |
| damiano | nope... |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: please do! hal is not good :{ |
| Borg^Queen | Xu_R: hey, how are things on the front |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: hehe, I agree |
| MutantTurkey | the front? |
| Borg^Queen | HAL stinks, no offencce |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: if you need help I am always here to test whatever |
| Xu_R | Borg^Queen: getting better, which is good |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: Xu_R is a member of the PLF, the penguin liberation front |
| * MutantTurkey is working on kicker | |
| samelian | ok, I will tell when I will need more tests |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: oh boy |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: ok |
| Xu_R | lololol |
| Borg^Queen | PENGIUN OR DEATH |
| Borg^Queen | did I spell penguin correctly |
| Borg^Queen | yes, ok |
| Xu_R | ._. |
| samelian | I have many plans for TDE, but I have'n enough time :) |
| damiano | xchat doesn't play anything automatically... |
| damiano | no sounds at all |
| Borg^Queen | samelian: :( |
| Borg^Queen | make sure you have it set to use the right sound engine |
| Xu_R | damiano: I think you have to set sounds |
| Xu_R | because my Xchat doesn't do it either |
| samelian | sometime I want to change kdesktop, to support a kind of widgets, like plasmoids |
| Xu_R | but i'm happy with it being mute because the notification popup is easier |
| Xu_R | than tons of sounds |
| damiano | Xu_R, hm... |
| damiano | well, sometimes i don't notice it blinking |
| damiano | that's the prob |
| damiano | so i need at least a little beep |
| Xu_R | oic |
| Xu_R | should be on settings -> alerts |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: see how that goes over with Tim... |
| damiano | yeah, i've checked it |
| MutantTurkey | I dont think he likes that idea |
| damiano | but nothing. |
| Xu_R | restart xchat? >_> |
| damiano | hm... can try. |
| MutantTurkey | I would like to create a plugin based system that is extensible though. |
| damiano | but that shouldn't matter.. |
| damiano | i think. |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: what kind of idea disagree Tim? |
| samelian | plasmoids? |
| MutantTurkey | plasmoids, widgets |
| MutantTurkey | he doesnt like them I dont think |
| samelian | hmm, can be very usefull |
| samelian | for network status, notes, etc |
| Xu_R | I agree, that can be very useful. >_> however, we should not force everything into a widget like KDE4... |
| samelian | for sure |
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| damiano | now try it |
| Borg^Queen | are plasmoids any good |
| Borg^Queen | They've always seemed to be a bother to get going |
| samelian | this must pe carefuly planned |
| samelian | be* |
| Borg^Queen | A plasmoid |
| Borg^Queen | ? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: hopefully not eat all my CPU |
| Xu_R | no, a plasmoid |
| Xu_R | is like google widgets |
| MutantTurkey | I think it should be very plugin based |
| Xu_R | on your desktop. |
| MutantTurkey | I know |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: plugin based C++ modules? |
| samelian | I think that kdesktop widget should be like a small applets, similar to kdetray |
| Strangelv | Could we allow a wiredr range of languages? |
| Borg^Queen | I don't like google widgets or yahoo, they're so problematic. I've always like karamba |
| samelian | yes, kind of kde modules, like for kcontrol |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: no that is bad. |
| MutantTurkey | just adds bloat... |
| * Xu_R points to kdebindings as proof | |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: wait! |
| MutantTurkey | what about using Kparts? |
| MutantTurkey | couldn't we in theory just use kparts? |
| samelian | yes, something like this |
| MutantTurkey | to embed a browser, a file manager |
| MutantTurkey | etc |
| MutantTurkey | then create kparts for specific desktop stuff |
| MutantTurkey | like plasmoids |
| Borg^Queen | what are you guys trying to do |
| samelian | for example, would be nice to integrate konsole kpart into kdesktop :) |
| jumpship | I'd love it if kicker panels could sorta float anywhere on screen and be set to stay behind windows, then any kicker applet could be a widget |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: oh that's smart |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: so kparts are already done |
| MutantTurkey | all needed is integration with kdestop |
| samelian | yes, we just need to change kdekstop to accept it |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | that is good. I like that. |
| samelian | and we will be able integrate anything in desktop |
| MutantTurkey | also I am thinking about creating a kickre applet for similar kpart integration |
| MutantTurkey | basically i could embed konsole into it or something, have it work like yakuake |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: you have milliseconds of genius. |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: cheers! you are quite the genius! |
| samelian | but there are for future, I'm the only one, TDE is big :) |
| samelian | hehe |
| Strangelv | This could also presumably allow a user to not even run Kicker or Kickoff |
| Borg^Queen | oh sweet really, I love yakuake |
| MutantTurkey | tde is not so big as i thought |
| MutantTurkey | it is big though |
| MutantTurkey | gotta go guys |
| MutantTurkey | calss is over |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| * Strangelv waves | |
| MutantTurkey | be back later |
| Borg^Queen | bye |
| samelian | Strangelv: yes, like window maker :) |
| Borg^Queen | samelian: you and MutantTurkey make a good team |
| samelian | hehe |
| Borg^Queen | brb crakmonkey crying on phone |
| samelian | btw, should be nice to find a solution to isolate somehow plugin from kdesktop |
| samelian | otherwise, bad written widget will crash kdesktop either |
| jumpship | How does superkaramba fit in with that idea, isn't that what it's for? |
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| samelian | not sure, I did not used superkaramba |
| damiano | hmmm |
| jumpship | Me either, always planned on looking into it, never did |
| damiano | i missed one thing... |
| samelian | I think should be like kwin, wich embrace any arbitrary application with borders |
| damiano | it records skype only, but not me talking... cause there can be either stereo mixer or mic... how did you say yoy do it? |
| jumpship | Well, it might be as simple as a mod to kwin, one sec |
| damiano | i guess mic has to be a part of stereo mixer, all in one, somehow |
| jumpship | Looking at kwin's user rules, any window can be forced to a specific size, and forced to be always below other windows |
| Borg^Queen | damiano: make sure you mic is set to on. you need to be able to hear youself too. |
| Borg^Queen | Use headphones |
| samelian | jumpship: yes, kind of |
| jumpship | also no task bar or system tray |
| Borg^Queen | jumpship: kwin has a lot of advantagges |
| damiano | Borg^Queen, that's what i'm doing |
| damiano | have no speakers |
| Borg^Queen | ok |
| Borg^Queen | ah ok |
| damiano | Borg^Queen, let's see... |
| samelian | damiano: there is TDE channel :) |
| Borg^Queen | jumpship: I like taskbars and systrays, I have an upper and lower kicker |
| damiano | samelian, huh? |
| Borg^Queen | ? |
| samelian | I mean, skype is not a subject related to tde |
| Borg^Queen | Its not a skype issue |
| jumpship | Borg^Queen: So do I, I have a lot of panels |
| Borg^Queen | jumpship: aye |
| jumpship | I use kwins rules to embed vlc sorta into kicker |
| Borg^Queen | samelian: he's trying to record skype using kde tde tools |
| Borg^Queen | jumpship: really lol |
| samelian | ah, I did not noticed |
| Borg^Queen | samelian: not to worry, you were only trying to help. |
| jumpship | So, what would a desktop widget do or have that can't be done with that? |
| Borg^Queen | samelian: however, that bit of info is good to know. I didn't know they had a skype channel. |
| samelian | i'm not sure yet, is just an idea for the further development |
| damiano | well.. audacity is not really a kde/tde tool :) |
| damiano | at least not the one i'm using here.. |
| Borg^Queen | true but still. I would recommend rezound better control |
| Borg^Queen | samelian: what are you trying to achieve? |
| jumpship | I like MT's idea of a kparts kicker applet, that could connect even more stuff |
| damiano | listen... the prob is, it allows me to use mic or stereo mixer (no mic), but not together... and also, it corresponds with ALSA and changes the source respectivelly. |
| samelian | Borg^Queen: to expose my unrealistic ideas :) |
| Borg^Queen | LOL |
| damiano | what should be the input source anyway? |
| Borg^Queen | samelian: that's what they said about putting a human on the moon |
| Borg^Queen | damiano: ambiant and mic |
| damiano | ambiant?! |
| damiano | what's that? |
| Borg^Queen | That's why you need hardware or software mixing |
| damiano | i see....... |
| Borg^Queen | ambiant is any sound playing |
| samelian | Borg^Queen: unforunately we are only few developers with enough skills to implement these ideas |
| damiano | ok.. so it appears i have no hardware mixing. Though... skype recorder would still allow me to do that. |
| damiano | but let us just think it has its own magic. What now? Do i have to install something? |
| Borg^Queen | samelian: never give up |
| samelian | actually I want to work on low level things |
| samelian | dbus, kioslaves, etc |
| Borg^Queen | kioslave rocks |
| samelian | yeap |
| Borg^Queen | damiano: without knowing how your laptop is setup, I'm limited in what I can do to help. |
| samelian | I working on a replacement for kio_sftp, based on libssh2 |
| jumpship | Borg^Queen: If you saw Strangelv's animation the other day, that last screenshot is mine |
| damiano | Borg^Queen, actually i have no laptop |
| Borg^Queen | To record two sounds, your voice and skype, you need to be able to play two sounds at the same time. |
| samelian | but kio_sftp project stalled because a bug in libssh2 |
| damiano | Borg^Queen, but i can copy the details of my audio setup to you. |
| Borg^Queen | jumpship: checking |
| Borg^Queen | damiano: wouldn't help, |
| damiano | hm... |
| damiano | alright.. |
| Borg^Queen | you need to beable to play two sounds at once |
| Borg^Queen | try it |
| damiano | i dunno how! It's either one or another. |
| Borg^Queen | open a movie and a play a tune |
| damiano | when i switch to stereo mixer is shuts off the mic |
| damiano | and the other way around |
| Borg^Queen | ah, then you can't |
| damiano | yep.. that's the prob.. |
| Borg^Queen | no audio mixing |
| Borg^Queen | rats |
| damiano | so.. that means i can't record skype. |
| Borg^Queen | I would take samelian advice and go to #skype, they might know a trick |
| jumpship | Your sound card prob is only able to record from one source at a time, and with skype you'd need the rec source set to mic |
| damiano | yep... |
| Borg^Queen | jumpship: cool nick btw |
| jumpship | The only way I can think of would be to use something like jack (maybe pulse can so it) |
| jumpship | I like your's as well |
| jumpship | I'm in the middle of rewatching TNG right now |
| Borg^Queen | your desktop is the one with vlc and the backyard? |
| Borg^Queen | sunday 11:44 am? |
| jumpship | yeah, that pic is ron Strangelv, he didn't think The original I was using was a good idea |
| jumpship | ron=from |
| Borg^Queen | how do you mean? |
| jumpship | it was a pic or tux swating at the MS butterfly that was attacking carmen electra |
| Borg^Queen | LOL |
| jumpship | I got it off the web, search for "tux defends carmen" if ya wanna see it |
| Borg^Queen | lol ok |
| jumpship | One of my favorites |
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| Borg^Queen | wb |
| jumpship | She's not naked or anything, but pretty close |
| MutantTurkey | cant freaking figure out Kickoff D:::::::::::: |
| MutantTurkey | pissing me off |
| MutantTurkey | jumpship: what? |
| MutantTurkey | lets keep it P.G. this is a family channel :P |
| Borg^Queen | o0 |
| jumpship | I was just talking about the wallpaper I was using when I sent Strangelv my screencap the first time |
| Borg^Queen | this is one of my favs http://www.wallpaperist.com/wallpapers/Funny/No-more-Vista-800-600.jpg |
| jumpship | It was brought up then that it was prob a bad idea to use that pic in the promo animation |
| jumpship | Thats great, his troubles are over, too bad he didn't know about alterantives |
| Borg^Queen | Well it was shown to me by a client that I switched to linux. |
| Borg^Queen | He tried, xp, vista and win7 and always had problems. Bought 8 computers. |
| Borg^Queen | Turns out none of them were broken as MS suggested. |
| jumpship | MutantTurkey: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/249/jumpship.jpg/ if you were wondering |
| MutantTurkey | oh that :p |
| MutantTurkey | yes a bad idea definitely |
| MutantTurkey | also we want to have a healthy range of images |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| MutantTurkey | newish looking, sleek, minimal, bloated, old school, redmond |
| MutantTurkey | ya know? |
| MutantTurkey | to show flexible. |
| jumpship | I couldn't find it, but a friend on mine that I switched had a wallpaper that was a very bloody squashed MS butterfly |
| Borg^Queen | nice |
| jumpship | Speaking of looks, did anyone know you could use Icewm themes with trinity? |
| samelian | only if you replace kwin with icewm window manager :) |
| jumpship | No need, kwin has a theme that uses icewm pixmap themes |
| damiano | found skype recorder for amd64. works fine. |
| damiano | one guy built it. |
| jumpship | I had no idea, I never bothered to use anything special because it looked like it required c++ for a custom kwin theme |
| damiano | to be fair, it's better than any windows one |
| jumpship | samelian: Since your a coder, do you think it would be difficult to make kwin a bit easier for a user to create simple themes? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | it would be |
| samelian | hmm, i'm not sure, I'm not familiar with kwin |
| Borg^Queen | ok I did a google search for "go rangers" an old amime and got celtic music |
| MutantTurkey | I am vaguely familiar with kwin |
| MutantTurkey | I have been hacking on itall week |
| jumpship | MutantTurkey: why do you say that? |
| MutantTurkey | fixing up the laptop theme |
| MutantTurkey | because it would require basically a wysiwyg editor for it |
| MutantTurkey | a total PITA |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| MutantTurkey | themes basically are using maual Qt drawing calls |
| Borg^Queen | kwin is great but it needs to be cleaned up |
| MutantTurkey | if you just need pixmaps, use the icewm themer |
| jumpship | I mean sorta integrate what is already there in the icewm theme |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: whats wrong wit hit? |
| MutantTurkey | jumpship: well use that icewm thinger |
| damiano | can anyone tell me why Tahoma's "P" look weird on linux? :) |
| MutantTurkey | whats wrong with the icewm one? |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: I hate linux fonts >_> |
| Borg^Queen | everyone says it needs to be cleaned of spare code and updated slightly |
| MutantTurkey | everything looks crap |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: welcome to software 101 |
| damiano | MutantTurkey, me too, but it's win's tahoma, it's fune |
| damiano | fine* |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: ? |
| jumpship | I don't really mean for myself, I have no prob with that, Strangelv and I were talking about it earlier, I just wondered |
| damiano | i disabled anti-aliasing too with sharpfonts scropt |
| damiano | script* |
| MutantTurkey | this is required for all code. |
| Borg^Queen | I have no problems with fonts |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: I dunno, I like anti aliasing |
| damiano | Borg^Queen, on high res LCD monitors it may not be noticeable |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: I know that, but it hasn't been cleaned in while, according to kde |
| damiano | MutantTurkey, nah, that's the problem, it's anti-aliasing that causing all the crap |
| damiano | or hinting |
| damiano | it's not correct on linux |
| Borg^Queen | damiano: I use lcd and crt |
| Borg^Queen | but you're right, fonts look bad under 1024x768 |
| damiano | i'm on 800x600 ;) |
| Borg^Queen | oooooh that's why |
| damiano | but i removed all anti-aliasing as i installed sharpfonts script and it's very good. |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: right, which is why we need more maintainers for specific code |
| damiano | so everything looks like in Windows ;) |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: your kb to God's screen |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| samelian | damiano: if you won't use antialising, you need to recompile freetype with bytecode interpreter |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: we need more devels |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | which means people need to step up |
| MutantTurkey | cough cough |
| damiano | samelian, let me just show you. |
| MutantTurkey | not just general devels |
| samelian | damiano: this is my desktop |
| samelian | http://thel.ro/desktop.png |
| MutantTurkey | I mean specific devels |
| Strangelv | "Is anytnhing in Python and/or Javascript? 8) |
| MutantTurkey | if someone could take over stuff like kwin specifically |
| damiano | is that your desktop? |
| MutantTurkey | or kicker etc |
| damiano | samelian |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: I'm not a hacker, I do hardware |
| Borg^Queen | just learning to mess about with it |
| damiano | oh yeah, i see |
| damiano | well, let me show you mine |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: learn or donate yotime in another wayur |
| damiano | http://89.28.122.14:8080/Screenshot-3.png |
| MutantTurkey | as long as you help :) |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: I've got a stack of test machines here waiting |
| damiano | http://89.28.122.14:8080/Screenshot-4.png |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: test test test! |
| samelian | damiano: I think you font is a little too big |
| samelian | try to reduce it |
| damiano | it's just lowres |
| Borg^Queen | Doing that |
| damiano | i can make it smaller, but no need. |
| damiano | i like it this way. I just need another monitor. |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| damiano | samelian, i've done it many times, i can put it to 8, but i'm ok with 9 |
| samelian | i see |
| samelian | but "P" still ugly with 8? |
| damiano | 8 looks better on TDE |
| damiano | hm... never checked.. let me see :) |
| samelian | hmm, seems that my "P" is pixeled either, I did not notice it until now :) |
| samelian | but is not noticeable easy on 1280x800 |
| damiano | on TDE it wasn't like that though |
| damiano | only on Gnome |
| damiano | samelian, i have a little request |
| samelian | ? |
| damiano | could you go to web right now and make a screenshot of any page? Or google search? Just type in something and i wanna see how the page gets displayed |
| MutantTurkey | darrell is awesome |
| samelian | sure, hang on |
| Borg^Queen | ? |
| damiano | there's something about fonts... some bold ones are blurry by me...like sharpfonts didn't work on it. Though also depends on the browser. |
| damiano | ok. |
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| samelian | damiano: http://thel.ro/chromium.png |
| damiano | hm... you're from Romania |
| damiano | nice, thanks. |
| damiano | good font |
| samelian | yes, I have a sister in Italy :) |
| samelian | you're Italian, right? |
| MutantTurkey | Timothy just announced that R14 is bug release only |
| damiano | nope. |
| damiano | it's only name) |
| damiano | but i'm your neighbour ;) |
| samelian | hehe |
| damiano | Moldova |
| samelian | aa |
| damiano | yep.. |
| samelian | you know Romania I guess |
| samelian | Romanian* |
| damiano | i knew you'd ask ;) |
| damiano | but no. Sorry. |
| damiano | i'm a russian moldavian. |
| samelian | aha, I see |
| damiano | i mean.. i know some things.. |
| samelian | I'm a kind of russian too |
| damiano | oh really.. |
| damiano | how did you get to know russian? |
| samelian | my ancients established in Romania, few hundred years ago |
| samelian | and my parent still using a kind of russian old dialect |
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| damiano | i see. |
| damiano | interesting. |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: how much progress have you on Upower? |
| MutantTurkey | time announced that r14 was bug release only, I said "what about samelians power interface" |
| MutantTurkey | he didnt know you have been working on it. |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: i'm not sure yet, this is just an abstract layer to upower |
| samelian | to be usable, we need to write a brand new power management system |
| samelian | a replacement for kpowersave |
| samelian | and, as I said, this new application should be part of kcontrol |
| MutantTurkey | right so probably not done for R14 |
| samelian | when will be released R14? |
| MutantTurkey | 6 months afaik |
| MutantTurkey | but we are shooting for VERY VERY stable desktop |
| samelian | aa, plenty of time |
| samelian | I very close to finish abstract layer |
| MutantTurkey | okay, are you on email access right now? |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | could you respond to the thread "Quality Assurance" |
| MutantTurkey | that is where i mentioned you |
| samelian | however, I'm not sure that we will be able to drop HAL at all, because we will need other abstact layer, to udisk, for example |
| MutantTurkey | are you not writing it for udisk as well? |
| MutantTurkey | sorry for ruining the suprise :x |
| samelian | haha |
| samelian | no, I want to write it modular |
| samelian | each module with its own namespace, etc |
| samelian | but I will try to make they consistent |
| MutantTurkey | I like this |
| MutantTurkey | then we can slowly phase our hal |
| MutantTurkey | out' |
| Borg^Queen | ok gn to all |
| Borg^Queen | yes please, hal always messed up for me |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 631 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=631 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, CalDAV option KOrganizer causes KOrganizer to crash |
| damiano | samelian, how did you make your font look nice anyway? |
| samelian | I have freetype with bytecode interpreter support and I disabled antialiasing :) |
| damiano | hm... |
| damiano | ok.. apparently everybody solves his issues in his own way :) |
| damiano | does anyone use any dictionaries/translators on linux? |
| damiano | does anybody know why it takes so long to access CD/DVD drive if any media in? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 632 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=632 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Keramik window decoration does not work |
| damiano | hmm |
| damiano | but only CD media actually |
| damiano | weird |
| damiano | dvd opens up quickly. |
| damiano | hm... and yet only CD-RW |
| damiano | no.. all CDs. |
| * Strangelv finally finds http://xkcd.com/763/ in reference to what daimiano said several minutes ago | |
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| * Strangelv needs to figure out how to find XKCD strips faster. It loses its punch if everyone times out before he can find the attempt to add levity | |
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| Strangelv | Evening/morning |
| l0ner | evening |
| Strangelv | Byte has been brought back from the dead again as an online magazine again. I wonder if we could do something that could capture their attention. ...assuming anyone notices that they're back again |
| l0ner | byte? |
| Strangelv | It really needs to get back into print. That's the one magazine EVERYONE was subscribed to |
| l0ner | ok, a magazin |
| l0ner | e |
| l0ner | argh... I can't really think at this hour |
| Strangelv | Perhaps the most important one in the history of computin,g at least after 1975 |
| l0ner | and after 8h spent at university |
| Strangelv | Datamation or similar may hald that distinction for prior to that |
| Strangelv | oof |
| Strangelv | noted |
| l0ner | and on top of that i'm listening to the narwhals song... |
| Strangelv | I'm forced to scrib my plants fornow as well and hope I can get it done early enough tomorrow |
| l0ner | ok, well I think that getting attention on any place in the net is important to trinity |
| * Strangelv : http://www.informationweek.com/byte/ | |
| Strangelv | "Byte is historically very generalized |
| Strangelv | It was the place to go to catch up on, well, everything |
| l0ner | well, i think I'll look it up tommorow |
| Strangelv | It was also frequentyl teh only place to find out about new language,s new platforms, new processors, et c. |
| l0ner | since I'm slowly fading away... |
| l0ner | Well, i can imagine that |
| * l0ner is going to sleep | |
| l0ner | i'm too tired to stay awake |
| * Strangelv is too, but really doesn't want to. | |
| Strangelv | see you tomorrow hopefully? |
| l0ner | hopefully |
| l0ner | but idk, since I have tommorow 8h of university too |
| l0ner | ;/ |
| l0ner | so I don' |
| l0ner | t |
| l0ner | know in what state i'll return home |
| l0ner | anyway, cya |
| l0ner | g'night |
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| damiano | back |
| damiano | anyone there? |
| Z_God | damiano: about to go to bed |
| Z_God | damiano: as for your question on dictionaries, I run Lingvo 10 in Wine |
| Z_God | still need to look into getting a newer version to work some time |
| Z_God | good night all! |
| damiano | ok, thanks. |
| damiano | i was asking for some other than winapp thing.. for linux, as for win i have dictionaries too.. |
| damiano | see ya, night night |
| Z_God | if you have other dictionaries working in Wine, I'm very interested to hear about that! |
| Z_God | I'll ask you again some time, really need to leave now... |
| Z_God | see you! |
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| Piki | hi |
| damiano | hey Piki |
| damiano | i have a prob here |
| Piki | for those who remember my complaint about gpg in kmail, it appears to be a bug, adding my key's fingerprint to a config file fixes it |
| damiano | some funky shit about CD media... and only CD. When i insert any disk it takes long for system to respond.. it does something weird and i have to wait for a while till it gets unfrozen and then i can access CD as it appears on my desktop. |
| damiano | congrats on fixing it.. |
| damiano | now you can sleep good.. :) |
| Piki | damiano: i'll see if i can help, no promis though |
| damiano | ok.. any help is appreciated. |
| Piki | damiano: there seems to be some sort of problem with HAL (hardware abstraction layer). someone else was having trouble using Safely Remove on their flash drive, and flash drives aren't showing to TDE on my computer. hal is supposed to handle that, and it's outdated and buggy |
| Piki | plans are in progress to ditch hal within the next couple of releases |
| Piki | damiano: if you don't mind using a command line, you can mount your CDs from there, though audio CDs will probably need to wait on hal |
| damiano | Piki, you mean to tell me that my CD issue also has to do something with HAL? |
| damiano | hm..... |
| Piki | chances are, yes, hal is supposed to keep track of any devices being attached and cds being inserted |
| damiano | hm.... |
| damiano | why it doesn't happen with DVD? |
| damiano | and it's the same drive |
| Piki | dunno, sometimes hal works well, sometimes it doesn't |
| Piki | very few distros still use hal, 99% of them have gotten rid of it, we are just too short on coders to hack it out of TDE in a timely manner |
| Piki | but we are going to bump up our QA process, and we have someone working on the hal replacements. i don't know if it will be done in time for our next release, you'd have to talk to samelian whenever he's here |
| Piki | i saw a message on the mailing list just a bit ago that he's got something going |
| damiano | well.. i'm not on Trinity at the moment |
| damiano | gnome here |
| damiano | but i guess it doesn't really matter. |
| damiano | how do i get rid of it anyway? I mean i feel like something redundant is working |
| damiano | cause i can manage cd to open up quickly, but then again something takes over and makes me wait till everything gets vital again |
| Piki | get rid of hal? |
| Piki | or trinity? |
| Piki | and that really depends on your distro |
| Piki | you'd open your package manager and find hal and select it for removal. for trinity, you'd pull out all the trinity packages and mark them for removal |
| damiano | yeah, i have no trinity yet. |
| Piki | if you don't mention that, we assume you want help with trinity since you're in the trinity chat room ;-) |
| damiano | yeah, i understand. |
| damiano | so what if i remove hal on gnome? |
| Piki | i'm not familiar with anything besides TDE/KDE3 |
| damiano | hm... ok |
| Piki | gnome won't be able to detect your hardware through hal |
| damiano | but it's installed. |
| Piki | whether or not you can install something else to use with gnome depends on your distro |
| damiano | Debian 6 |
| Piki | that depends on whether debian patched their gnome to use something other than hal, i don't know if they did since i don't use gnome |
| Piki | chances are they did since most systems got rid of hal |
| Piki | but i don't really know |
| Piki | i never paid any attention to whether my debian system has hal before i install tde or after |
| damiano | hm... |
| Piki | damiano: what you can do is ask it to remove hal. it'll tell you what else it will remove and ask you to confirm the removal |
| damiano | ok! |
| damiano | let me try. |
| Piki | if it removes without asking, that means it's not removing anything but hal, and you can reinstall hal if your discs stop working |
| damiano | yeah, it doesn't ask for more files. |
| damiano | so i can do it i guess |
| damiano | listen.. how about updating it?.. Maybe my version is old? |
| Piki | possibly |
| damiano | let's see... |
| Piki | do a system upgrade and see if it shows hal as an upgrade |
| damiano | did several times. |
| damiano | didn't upgrade. What if i install udev instead? |
| damiano | hmm |
| damiano | i have udev too |
| damiano | ah |
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| damiano | i think i know what happened man |
| damiano | i never had hal |
| damiano | i installed Wine from Mepis and it installed hal |
| damiano | i saw it |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: do you use gnome? damiano is having a delayed cd icon issue |
| damiano | yep, gnome |
| damiano | ah.. |
| MutantTurkey | no I do not. |
| damiano | sorry |
| MutantTurkey | not anymoore. |
| damiano | i thought you were talking to me |
| damiano | listen, i had the same prob when i was on Trinity |
| damiano | so hal is kicking in regardless of the environment |
| damiano | it's damn Wine 1.3 from Mepis. Let me remove it.. i have now both active, udev and hal |
| damiano | one is taking over |
| Piki | debian does have wine, and there's a 3rd party debian repo for newer versions |
| damiano | i couldn't install them. |
| damiano | i dunno how. Those are sources. |
| Piki | ? |
| Piki | you shouldn't need any source code for wine |
| damiano | hm... |
| damiano | show me the repo |
| damiano | pleae. |
| damiano | please |
| Piki | http://www.lamaresh.net/ <-- that's the web site for the repo |
| damiano | removed hal. Nothing's changed. Niether for CD nor USB. |
| damiano | ok, thank you very much. |
| Piki | http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ <-- this lists 3rd party repos for debian |
| Piki | you can select the ones you want and it'll show you what you need to add to apt |
| damiano | ok! |
| Piki | of course, the disclaimer: i haven't had any trouble with them, but i can't guarantee them, nor can the debgen maintainer |
| Piki | and i don't use wine, i don't have any need for windows programs, the debgen page gave me the lameresh site |
| damiano | i do unfortunatelly. |
| Piki | just pointing out that i can' |
| Piki | t give any statement on reliability of the wine repo |
| damiano | it's alright. |
| damiano | i'm used to its non-stability. |
| damiano | but it works alright with some small apps. |
| damiano | hey.. it's just Wine 1.1 |
| Piki | i used it a long time ago to play world of warcraft, got bettery performance than running it on windows on the same hardware |
| damiano | heard of such things |
| Piki | i don't play it any more, and all my other software is native to linux |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | I dont see much need for wine |
| Piki | if your job requires you use windows software but you can't afford windows (or refuse to use windows) |
| MutantTurkey | windows is free |
| MutantTurkey | almost 100% of the time. |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | especially in pittsburg, maybe not africa |
| damiano | :) |
| Piki | no, unless you're pirating |
| damiano | here too. I'm just tired of it. Besides.. there's a few advantages here.. |
| damiano | here windows is not free too, if you work at some place they'd likely come and check on your software. At home you can use whatever you want, nobody will come to your place.. |
| damiano | i mean... they might, but they wouldn't and couldn't :) |
| Piki | even preinstalled, they include a bit of extra money in the computer price to cover the licensing cost |
| damiano | at least i don't have to bother with serials and crap like that anymore |
| damiano | serials, keygens, cracks.. what a buncha tripe.. |
| damiano | however.. with free software you pay with your efforts and time.. like i do now... solving miscellanous issues that i'm not supposed to have had. |
| damiano | like audio issues... cd prob... |
| damiano | windows is very optimized yet mainstream and vulnarable... |
| Piki | on my previous laptop running linux, the only trouble i had was the official nvidia driver, i just switch to the open source nv 2d driver |
| Piki | since i didn't need 3d capabilities |
| damiano | well i dunno why i keep having probs... |
| damiano | what did hal do anyway? I deleted it and nothing seem to have changed. |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: thats also not true |
| MutantTurkey | its almost always cheaper to buy with windows than without |
| Piki | damiano: if you switched recently, you just need to settle in and make things work |
| MutantTurkey | OEM's cover the cost because companies pay them to bundle crapware. |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i know what happened with my previous laptop... |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: everybody says manufacturers include a small fee for the windows license |
| Piki | damiano: hal was supposed to keep track of hardware, gnome might not have been using it, it might have been using udev, in which case hal was only sitting there. |
| Piki | as for windows, it was UNoptimized |
| damiano | how do i use hal instead? |
| Piki | was always sluggish and crashed a lot. everybody said my issues were hardware, the manufacturer said it was windows, linux said my hardware was fine |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: its not true |
| Piki | damiano: see if there's a package for gnome that uses hal |
| MutantTurkey | for example |
| Piki | depends on the debian packagers |
| MutantTurkey | my lenovo X220 would have been @1500 without windows |
| MutantTurkey | 1200 with windows |
| MutantTurkey | I dont know about all cases |
| MutantTurkey | but definitely sometimes |
| damiano | ok |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: the only reason my laptop was cheaper is because it was on discount. i actually talked to hp, they said without the sale that my laptop would be US$550 without windows and $575 with windows |
| Piki | and that the business version would be $575 without windows, $585 with |
| MutantTurkey | HP is crap >_> |
| MutantTurkey | all my hp produces are junk |
| MutantTurkey | I hear their newer stuff is picking up though |
| Piki | my hp's battery is junk, this is the second one within a two year period that i need to replace |
| Piki | the rest of the laptop is fine |
| Piki | except i lost my hard disk cover when replacing the hard dis, but that's me |
| Piki | hp as a company is crap though |
| Piki | they sold me a laptop, but didn't tell me they put it on custom order until i went to inquire about upgrading my ram and cpu, and they said they don't support that because it's a custom order laptop |
| Piki | i think once i save up enough money i'll go for lenovo, i keep hearing good things about them |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: change of topic, but did you see my workaround for google calendar on the mailing list? |
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| Piki | >.< |
| jumpship | Hey Piki |
| Piki | hi jumpship |
| jumpship | I don't think HP's are all that bad, could be worse |
| jumpship | You're dead on about the company though |
| jumpship | I seen the workaround for google cal, good to see things like that being hashed out, I don't use it, but might someday |
| Piki | i use google calendar to keep all my calendar synchronized |
| jumpship | I would imagine it helps a lot to have a online service for that, with all of todays portable devices, does it integrate well? |
| Piki | depends on if the device manufacturer or software you're using support either the calendar protocol they use (i think they use either CalDAV or ical), or if they support google calendar directly |
| Piki | android smart phones support it directly since android os is a google product, and my smart phone runs android |
| jumpship | What systems do you use it on, I'd guess android is well supported--- beat me to it :) |
| Piki | korganizer lists google calendar as CalDAV, but crashes when i try to choose caldav. i was able to tell it to use a remote file and provide it with the url to the ics file from my google calendar |
| Piki | it downloaded my calendar just fine, i haven't tried adding anything yet |
| Piki | jumpship: other than my smart phone and laptop, that's it |
| Piki | i only ever used the web browser so i could get the url to the ics file for korganizer |
| Piki | i also have a google calendar widget in my gmail |
| Piki | haven't used gmail to add stuff to the calendar, dunno if it supports that, but it does display the reminders |
| Piki | since i take my phone anywhere and i can sign in to gmail using a recent version of most web browsers, i'm almost garunteed to get any reminders i need |
| jumpship | That's something I didn't think of, I could prob use it to send me reminders, I already use gmail a lot, maybe I could finally remember people's birthdays |
| Piki | i think their calendar widget is in the gmail labs, been their awhile, hasn't given me any issues |
| Piki | they probably have a widget for igoogle too if you use that for your home page |
| jumpship | Thanks for the pointer, I'll have to look into that for gmail |
| Piki | you should be able to sign in to google calendar using your gmail account |
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| jumpship | Although I'm starting to worry about how much info google has on me, I already use gmail and google voice |
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| Piki | i don't know if they'll have any setups or tutorials in the browser version, i didn't start using it until i got my phone |
| Piki | jumpship: there should be an account info page to show what info is stored with your account |
| Piki | and they have so many users i seriously doubt they'll find anything truly sensitive on you |
| jumpship | I don't really care that google has it, but it's always the things you don't think of that turn and bite ya in the ass |
| Piki | that doesn't include info that their search engine crawler found, but without your name they're highly unlikely to come across it |
| Piki | jumpship: i just don't post anything private, and i always use a handle whenever possible :-) |
| Piki | Piki has nothing to do with my real name, it's just some random made up word ;-) |
| damiano | he's "picky" ;) |
| Piki | now that i have gpg, i can now email in privacy too :-) |
| Piki | damiano: 'bout time someone pronounced it right! :-D |
| damiano | haha |
| damiano | well, i see no other way of pronouncing it |
| Piki | everybody says "peaky" |
| damiano | ah :) |
| Piki | i prefer picky |
| jumpship | Same here, but a gov agency would have no trouble tracing back to me, but I can't think of any reason they'd care about me |
| Piki | jumpship: chain together 50 different proxies, and don't operate with the same proxies for more than a few minutes :-) |
| Piki | and make sure to enjoy the slowness of all those connections combined |
| jumpship | I'm not that paranoid... yet :) |
| jumpship | They have much bigger fish to fry than I, like Damiano |
| jumpship | He's up to somethng, with changing his name and all |
| damiano | haha |
| damiano | nah.. |
| damiano | it's not that |
| damiano | i can tell you my name |
| damiano | why would you think that i'm paranoid? :) |
| jumpship | I thought that might catch your attention |
| damiano | ah.. :) |
| damiano | well.. anyway.. i'm paranoid for that CD issue here.. |
| Piki | i'm not paranoid enough to do even one proxy, but i do make a habbit of doing a "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda && dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" at least twice a year :-) |
| Piki | and i finally got around to skipping the second dd and encrypting my hard disk, but i'm no more paranoid then using encryption :-) |
| jumpship | I just don't do anything to make anyone care, except maybe the mpaa |
| damiano | you know what.. nobody would ever mess with your OS. They just hit you with a stick, take your hdd and browse it from other PC :) |
| damiano | or just boot up from their own ;) |
| jumpship | Thats what encryption is for |
| Piki | jumpship: mpaa? |
| damiano | ah. |
| Piki | jumpship: beat me too it :-) |
| jumpship | Motion Picture Association of America |
| Piki | ok |
| jumpship | To be real safe, rig a deadman's switch to a small c4 charge |
| Piki | why would they care? |
| Piki | not like you're using their ships :-) |
| jumpship | :) |
| Piki | i'd put just enough c4 to scare half the city |
| Piki | would probably eliminate half the suburbs though |
| Piki | and the other half of the city :-) |
| jumpship | Wouldn't need much around here, the whole city's only 3 miles |
| * Piki is not a psychopath ^.^ | |
| jumpship | Trying to convince yourself? |
| Piki | i live near a somewhat big city |
| jumpship | Ya like it? |
| Piki | probably not anywhere near Manhattan, but still pretty big |
| Piki | jumpship: i always need convincing, i'm always worried that one of my other personalities will do something behind my back 'O.O |
| jumpship | :) |
| Piki | ? |
| jumpship | My other personalities are too busy fighting each other to bother me |
| Piki | my other personalities are always plotting stuff, i keep having to beat them up to keep them under control, then everybody wanders why i'm always bruised up |
| Piki | of course i can't tell anybody else they'll think i'm crazy and put me in a hospital, apparently multiple personalities is frowned upon :-( |
| jumpship | Everyone else is crazy, I'm the only sane one |
| * Piki doesn't have multiple personalities, honest | |
| Piki | yes i do! :-) |
| jumpship | crap, gtg, later |
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| Piki | https://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/ <-- apparently the government wants to censor the internet, and they are seriously debating whether or not to pass a bill |
| Piki | last article on the page |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | welp |
| MutantTurkey | does anyone know of a good debugging program? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: the only one i know of is gdb |
| MutantTurkey | yea |
| MutantTurkey | gdb is awesome |
| MutantTurkey | but I wish I could have it step automatically |
| MutantTurkey | especially if i dont know where a breakpoint is. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 633 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=633 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Wiki Logo Needs Updating |
| MutantTurkey | cant wait to lay the smackdown on all these bugs |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: oh yeah, did you see my message on the ML about the google calendar workaround? |
| MutantTurkey | yes I saw it |
| MutantTurkey | it was more of a call for other apps as well |
| MutantTurkey | documents would be cool to integrate with |
| MutantTurkey | reader maybe with rss |
| Piki | it'll probably be low priority since google can make their own linux apps (and they have for a few of their products) |
| Piki | but it would definitely be useful if we did do that |
| Piki | the only problem is if they have a public api for integrating with more than just their calendar and instant messenger |
| Piki | and email |
| Piki | those use standard protocols, i don't know about their other services |
| MutantTurkey | Siri got reverse engineered |
| MutantTurkey | https://code.google.com/apis/documents/ |
| MutantTurkey | got it |
| MutantTurkey | we could do it |
| MutantTurkey | kio slave could do it easily |
| Piki | Siri? |
| MutantTurkey | the new Iphone 5 voice command system |
| Piki | i don't have an iphone, probably never will unless they make the whole thing open source |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | but the point is someone reverse engineered it |
| MutantTurkey | so you can use it on a regular desktop |
| Piki | android's voice command goes through google, requires a network connection for some reason |
| Piki | either wifi or your phone service's data connection |
| Piki | dunno why, but it works pretty well |
| Piki | aren't there desktop voice command systems already? |
| MutantTurkey | sure googles |
| Piki | hmm, apparently gmail doesn't recognize openpgp |
| MutantTurkey | obviously it needs a network conncetion |
| MutantTurkey | its very obvious why |
| MutantTurkey | the same reason you need internet to search google |
| Piki | it is? |
| MutantTurkey | their voice recognition libraries are huge and data intensive |
| MutantTurkey | imagine processing a voice file in real time on a pathetic phone processor... |
| MutantTurkey | LOL |
| Piki | hmm, true, though most phones are going into the ghz now |
| Piki | soon the constraint will be ram |
| damiano | hm... i've got the old prob again.. |
| damiano | i can't associate video files with any other app than Totem... |
| damiano | *doh* |
| damiano | can anyone tell me where the format association settings are stored? |
| damiano | "remember" doesn't work again.. |
| MutantTurkey | totem sucks |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: I dont know sorry :/ |
| MutantTurkey | I just use mplayer |
| damiano | i can't delete totem, it takes away Gnome |
| MutantTurkey | Does anyone know of a .ui editor? |
| damiano | and yet i can't use anything else |
| damiano | i mean i can, but only if i "open with" |
| damiano | but it doesn't remember the association. |
| MutantTurkey | look for file association |
| MutantTurkey | in kcontrol... |
| damiano | i'm on gnome man.. |
| MutantTurkey | yeah thats it |
| damiano | and by the way, same thing was on TDE... |
| damiano | environment doesn't matter here. |
| damiano | however... |
| damiano | maybe i'll just install TDE... to see what happens...... |
| MutantTurkey | install tde |
| MutantTurkey | oh gnome. |
| MutantTurkey | well I dunno about nome |
| damiano | yeah... |
| MutantTurkey | Guh- nome |
| damiano | :) |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: until 3.0 i was a die hard gnome fan. |
| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: qt .ui files? i think there's a program called qtdesigner, and they should be editable in a regular text editor |
| damiano | it's 2.30 |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: yes |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: nice |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know how anymore though |
| damiano | i see... |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: for TDE though? |
| Piki | i used gnome once, i liked it, but felt too constrained with customization options |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: kdevelop |
| MutantTurkey | okay thanks |
| MutantTurkey | I dont actually get it though |
| MutantTurkey | what are the UI files for? |
| * MutantTurkey is dumb used to hard coding it | |
| Piki | i think kdevelop is for kde-based apps (or in this case, tde-based apps), qtdesigner is general qt apps |
| MutantTurkey | I see |
| damiano | actually none of the association works... |
| damiano | no matter what format |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: glad to have you back around btw ;) |
| MutantTurkey | missed you for some time. |
| MutantTurkey | that was supposed to be a :) not a creepy wink. |
| MutantTurkey | LOL |
| damiano | i guess i have nothing else but to try TDE again... |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: not completely sure, but i think they're for User Interface coding |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | I dont know it interacts with the code thouhg |
| Piki | i've only ever seen them in projects made with a qt-based IDE |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: yeah |
| MutantTurkey | gnome is hard coded |
| MutantTurkey | afaik |
| MutantTurkey | well at least gtk stuff for me was |
| MutantTurkey | I never used glade |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i always knew you were creepy ;) |
| MutantTurkey | pfft me |
| MutantTurkey | no way |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i /think/ the .ui files are optional and just a way of separating the ui from the rest of the code for people who find that easier |
| damiano | installing TDE... |
| Piki | not really sure, i've long since forgotten my coding skills in java and visual basic ;-) |
| damiano | i'll just purge gnome completely to see if it changes anything.. |
| MutantTurkey | java pffft |
| MutantTurkey | vb? lol |
| * Piki completely hated visual basic, java seemed ok | |
| MutantTurkey | blech |
| Piki | i only did vb because my high school required it for some reason |
| Piki | i've always wanted to do c/c++ |
| Piki | and my college requires java and visual studio for my major |
| MutantTurkey | who cares |
| MutantTurkey | learn C anyway |
| MutantTurkey | along with those other wishy washy ones |
| Piki | i will |
| Piki | currently my priority is c++ though |
| Piki | because that's what qt uses, and i tend to prefer qt apps |
| Piki | but hopefully soon after that i can learn c |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: ? |
| MutantTurkey | I say C first |
| MutantTurkey | then C++ |
| MutantTurkey | either way |
| MutantTurkey | is okay |
| MutantTurkey | I just dont like this who object oriented crapola either |
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| damiano | /usr/share/applications/defaults.list |
| damiano | this is where app associations are stored |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: how did you find out? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: if i do c first, that will delay me from coding for tde ;-) |
| damiano | forum |
| damiano | "The myth of gnome 2.10 is that the "Open With" program will automatically do file associations for you. Well this is a complete LIE. There's a lot of manipulatations needed to get the currect applications opening with a specified file type. Lets jump in!!" |
| damiano | same goes for 2.30 though. |
| damiano | at first it worked but a bit later.... bummer. |
| gcsimon | Pki: now on my new machine... lucky me, wasn't an 800mhz cpu - just in powersave it goes down to 800mhz, usually it has 1800mhz ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | same here |
| MutantTurkey | well 2.6ghz down to 800 |
| MutantTurkey | 800 is more than enough always |
| MutantTurkey | 2600 for compiling |
| gcsimon | well it is still slow... bute the latency is lower (no more X-terminal to server) |
| Piki | apparently the mount command doesn't like me >.< |
| Piki | ext3 doesn't accept the "uid=" option, and apparrently the user and users option no longer mean user-writable |
| MutantTurkey | why not use your /dev/ references? |
| Piki | and since hal is now apparently broken on my system, i can't mount it from tde |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: as in "/dev/sda2"? i am |
| Piki | that's the way i've always used the mount command, i could never memorize all that uuid or "by path" stuff |
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| damiano | hurray! Installed TDE and Safely Remove works! |
| damiano | but it's weird though, last time i was on TDE it didnt work just like in Gnome.. |
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| damiano | and CD works too! |
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| damiano | associations work too!! |
| damiano | :) |
| damiano | ewething is just poi'fect |
| Piki | sorry, i only speak inglesh |
| damiano | haha |
| damiano | well.. i never.. first time in my life everything works fine. |
| damiano | now to purge Gnome.. |
| damiano | with its nasty Totem and other troubles. |
| Piki | what's totem? |
| damiano | you kidding me? Gnome main multimedia player.. |
| Piki | no, i'm not, i haven't used gnome in ages |
| Piki | and i never heard of totem |
| Piki | even when i used gnome, i still used amarok and smplayer |
| Piki | and i only used gnome for a day or two anyway |
| damiano | i see. |
| damiano | well.. it ain't so bad... looking. |
| Piki | actually, i recently switched back to kaffeine for videos |
| Piki | i didn't like smplayer as much as i had like kaffeine |
| damiano | kaffeine is nice |
| damiano | though pretty much like JuK |
| Piki | i still use amarok for music |
| Piki | i used juk a couple times awhile back, don't remember anything about it, but it didn' |
| Piki | t stick |
| gcsimon | amarok + vlc, no need for anything else |
| * Piki never understood why they call it video lan client, he never found any lan related settings | |
| damiano | vlc is great. |
| damiano | because it's also stream player i guess. |
| Piki | i just prefer kaffeine |
| Piki | damiano: stream player? |
| damiano | well... it plays mms links |
| Piki | so does kaffeine |
| Piki | and i think it also does real media links too |
| gcsimon | vlc is indeed able to act as a stream server and client. works pretty well - if you are able to figure out how to configure that beast |
| Piki | i never found where to configure it |
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| MutantTurkey | Piki: I am telling you. markdown is the way to go |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: ? |
| MutantTurkey | your comment on "Trinity User's Guide" |
| Piki | ok? |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | Libreoffice wont really work out to well |
| Piki | i have no idea what markdown is |
| MutantTurkey | DOESN'T ANYONE EVER READ THEIR EMAIL! |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| Piki | yes |
| damiano | erm.. on second thought... |
| MutantTurkey | you must have missed my email about markdown |
| MutantTurkey | anyway. |
| damiano | there's still some issue with CDs.... or maybe even with DVDs also... but more like with CDs only.... it reads only particular type of CD. Dunno why.... but that's the story. And ideas? |
| damiano | all CDs are ok. And so is the drive. |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: what CD's won't it read? |
| MutantTurkey | I know DVDs can cause trouble... but not sure about CD's |
| damiano | MutantTurkey, ANY! I mean.. i dunno what exactly that CD should be, but they maybe all different, and yet there's something in common about them that makes it not read it |
| Piki | if i didn't read, i'd not be able to communicate too well, most of my friends are busy or sleeping when i'm not, so normally i'm stuck with email, texting (bleargh), and instant messaging :-( |
| damiano | well at least it doesn't slow up anything and i don't have to wait till it responds. |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: what? |
| damiano | hm.. Alt+F2 is not working.... |
| Piki | damiano: as in cd-rw, cd-rom? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: ? |
| damiano | both cd-tw and cd-rom might not be read. But not all! |
| MutantTurkey | nvm. |
| damiano | i don't get it... |
| Piki | do they work sometimes? do they take awhile then read? is the cd drive active or sound like it's struggling |
| Piki | ? |
| damiano | they NEVER work. I've tried a few times. It takes just a little while for drive to flash a bit and then it's just silence. |
| Piki | because it might be possible that the laser lense needs cleaning, or just a bug in tde |
| Piki | or in hal |
| Piki | or a combination |
| MutantTurkey | or you dont have the required cd libs maybe? |
| damiano | it's probably hal, cause it wasn't like that before actually.. |
| MutantTurkey | not sure if there are required ones |
| damiano | and it's not TDE's prob either.. |
| damiano | maybe... |
| damiano | tell me, why key combos don't work? |
| damiano | maybe i didn't enable the feature? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: there are libs that are required, but they should be preinstalled, or at least pulled in as dependencies for tde |
| Piki | haven't tried cds on 3.5.13 yet |
| Piki | though i know they worked in .12 |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I dunno |
| MutantTurkey | I dont have a cd drive |
| damiano | me neither. It's DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW drive. |
| Piki | technically a DVD drive serves as a CD drive, if it doesn't it's not worth getting |
| damiano | it does, and it's been serving me well. |
| MutantTurkey | I dont have any.. |
| MutantTurkey | laptop :P |
| Piki | damiano: there are five possibilities here: damaged drive, dirty laser lense, hal bug, tde bug, a combination of those |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: laptops come with cd drives |
| Piki | all three that i've had came with one |
| damiano | drive - out of the question. |
| damiano | the rest could be. |
| Piki | damiano: if it's recent and you've had the drive awhile, it /could/ be, doesn't mean it is :-) |
| Piki | just a possibility |
| Piki | most likely not drive damage |
| Piki | most likely one of the others |
| damiano | yeah.. |
| Piki | hmm |
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| Piki | my cdrom drive isn't appearing in my TDE, but i can mount it from a termina |
| Piki | l |
| Piki | i think that rules out the drive entirely |
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| Piki | damiano: my tde doesn't recognize the cdrom either |
| damiano | hmmmm |
| Piki | but i can mount it from a terminal |
| Piki | if you can confirm, i think we have a bug |
| Piki | i'm getting ready to file a bug report now |
| damiano | ok |
| damiano | do you have several cdroms? |
| damiano | try many. It might open one or two. |
| damiano | there's something about modes used in burning process.. some native stuff and such.. |
| Piki | a bunch of blank ones and one debian install disk |
| Piki | that's it |
| damiano | and it doesn't see Debian, right? |
| Piki | and audio CDs |
| damiano | just like mine. |
| damiano | try audio! |
| damiano | it should work |
| damiano | it will show at least cda's |
| Piki | right, it doesn't see debian installer |
| damiano | same here. But try audio disj. |
| damiano | k* |
| damiano | one mp3 disk worked for me. |
| damiano | and real quick. |
| damiano | even though it's not really "audio", but something about file structure is here.. |
| Piki | i don't use mp3s, and i don't have any music files on cd |
| damiano | i understand what you got there |
| damiano | that'll be fine to check |
| Piki | it doesn't show in konqueror, but apparently amarok sees it |
| Piki | or rather, konqueror doesn't show it in the media:/ kio slave, but it seems to detect it with the audiocd:/ ko slave |
| damiano | can you tell me why Alt+F2 doesn't work by me? Is that a feature that has to be enabled? |
| Piki | for the run command dialog? depends on your keyboard shortcut layout, normally that's preset by kpersonalizer, when you pick whichever OS |
| Piki | it will set your key bindings to resemble that OS |
| damiano | well it always worked for me, now it doesn't |
| damiano | yeah, right.. i used "Windows behaviour" |
| damiano | this time. |
| damiano | to see what happens. |
| damiano | and now i dunno how to switch back to KDE |
| Piki | that doesn't use alt-f2 |
| damiano | i kno. |
| Piki | it uses win+r |
| damiano | oh yeah.. works |
| damiano | damn.. |
| Piki | go to the run command box and type kpersonalizer |
| Piki | that'll bring back the wizard, and you can change it |
| Piki | i think there's somewhere in kcontrol that has it too, i just never bothered to change mine |
| damiano | ok, thanks. |
| damiano | done, thank you. |
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| damiano | by the way... how do i get normal Debian updates with TDE? |
| damiano | how do i recieve notifications? |
| Piki | adept |
| Piki | adept-updater-trinity and adept-notifier-trinity |
| Piki | i don't really like adept as a package manager, just as an update notifier |
| damiano | ok, thanks |
| Piki | you can also install synaptic, it requires that you click the Reload button, then the Mark All Upgrades button, but IMO much better package manager otherwise |
| damiano | i do have it. |
| damiano | but it looks broken in TDE.. its interface doesn't correspond with it... |
| Piki | yeah, the interface might not match, but it does work |
| Piki | actually, i think there's a package for tde that can adapt your gtk apps to tde's themes |
| Piki | can't remember what it's called, haven't used it in ages |
| Piki | it wasn't perfect, but it got it right most of the way |
| damiano | yeah.. |
| Piki | i think i found it, let me check |
| Piki | yep |
| Piki | gtk-qt-engine-trinity |
| damiano | oh, nice! |
| damiano | let's see... |
| Piki | that'll add an option to kcontrol under Appearance & Themes |
| Piki | that'll let you adjust it |
| Piki | i don't think it activates immediately, i think you need to set it in kcontrol |
| damiano | what would i do without you) |
| damiano | yep, i've guessed so.. |
| Piki | you'd wait for one of these other wanderful people to answer :-) |
| damiano | haha |
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| Piki | damiano: gah, appears you need to restart tde after enabling it to get it to take effect |
| Piki | as in, log out of tde and log back in |
| Piki | completely forgot about that |
| damiano | hm... ok |
| damiano | on my way |
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| Piki | me too |
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| Piki | this is much better, actually |
| damiano | hmm |
| damiano | works |
| damiano | :) |
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| Piki | apparently didn't work for synaptic |
| Piki | but it works for iceweasel |
| damiano | by me worked for synaptic too |
| damiano | :) |
| damiano | doh.. i got this error again with Klauncher.. |
| damiano | DCP or something.. |
| damiano | happened to me before |
| damiano | even in .12 |
| Piki | ? |
| damiano | wait, i'll show you |
| damiano | KLauncher could not be reached via DCOP |
| Piki | hmm |
| damiano | usually when this happens i can't go past anything.. |
| damiano | can't run anything, it just brings this annoying thing |
| damiano | "Cannot talk to KLauncher" |
| damiano | if i try to go to storage manager |
| damiano | oh well. |
| damiano | restart. |
| Piki | usually either stale dcop locks, which can be fixed be clearing the hidden dcop files in your home directory |
| damiano | ah.. |
| Piki | then restarting tde |
| damiano | well i can't even run terminal now |
| Piki | or when you go to a terminal, su to another user, then try to run a tde app |
| damiano | i can't do anything man. |
| damiano | i doubt that i can even log out ;) |
| damiano | but let's see... |
| Piki | damiano: log out of tde, press CTRL+ALT+F1 (takes you to full screen terminal), then log in as your user |
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| Piki | hmm |
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| damiano | here i am.. |
| Piki | damiano: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1, log in as your user, then type "ls -a", you can see if you have stale dcop files |
| damiano | ok |
| Piki | CTRL+ALT+F1 (or rather, anythign from F1 to F6) is a full screen terminal |
| Piki | just make sure to log out of TDE first if you need to check for stale dcop locks |
| Piki | also good to occaisionally clear out /tmp |
| Piki | then you can use CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back to your login screen |
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| Piki | >.< |
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| damiano | erm... |
| damiano | there were white blue named files |
| damiano | white and blue* |
| Piki | i prefer arms |
| Piki | ok? |
| Piki | most systems now color files and directories, to tell them apart |
| Piki | doing the "ls -a" without the quotes will show a bunch of files starting with a . those are the hidden ones |
| Piki | the dcop files should have the . at the front |
| damiano | ah... |
| damiano | ok |
| damiano | let me try it again |
| Piki | since those aren't needed for normal everyday use |
| Piki | well, they are |
| Piki | but not directly by the user |
| damiano | so what do i do with them? |
| Piki | log out of TDE, use the full screen terminal to see if they're still there, and if so, delete them |
| damiano | ok. |
| Piki | using: |
| Piki | rm -rf .DCOP* |
| damiano | ok! |
| Piki | or the likes |
| Piki | when you log back in, it should generate new ones that can be used |
| damiano | ok |
| damiano | now... not to forget that command of yours.. |
| damiano | didn't see no dcop files |
| gcsimon | by the way, is anyone working on 64bit inode support for 32bit TDE? |
| gcsimon | by default the kernel uses 64bit inodes, so from the kernel viewpoint everything is fine. but the 32bit apps (like TDE) refuse to work correctly when encountering files wich have indoes with numbers above 32bit |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 634 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=634 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, CDs not correctly recognized by TDE |
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| damiano | man.. i dunno what's going on... everything's cheesy... |
| damiano | and why the hell did it change my mouse pointer.. |
| damiano | now it's black.. |
| gcsimon | the only TDE app i found so far, which has troubles with 64bit indoes is konqueror. while konqueror can open files and directorys you click with the mouse, he refuses to change into a directory you type in the address-bar |
| damiano | it happened before actually. And only with .13 |
| Piki | black is the defualt |
| damiano | wel... ok, but why is the theme different then, huh? |
| damiano | and in different apps |
| Piki | did you change the theme? |
| damiano | in opera it's not normal hand, but something else |
| damiano | no |
| damiano | but let me try it |
| Piki | or perhaps kpersonalizer changed it? |
| damiano | dunno man... |
| damiano | everything's acting funny... |
| damiano | just EVERYTHING.. |
| damiano | now theme manager is stuck. |
| damiano | oh well.... :( |
| gcsimon | but you didn't delete your trinity settings, right? |
| Piki | never heard of that happening |
| damiano | no... |
| damiano | but everything's just crazy.. |
| damiano | bug after bug.. |
| damiano | and all different |
| damiano | i dunno, if you wanna see - please, connect to me |
| gcsimon | btw. i cannot reproduce that cd-problem. just inserted a data-cd (ubuntu server). and it works. media:/ show it, and if i click it, media:/sr0 shows the content |
| damiano | i can't explain this shit to you... |
| damiano | well, because it's UBUNTU |
| damiano | almost all things work in there |
| gcsimon | damiano: maybe a screenshot? |
| Piki | ubuntu never worked here |
| damiano | dunno then. |
| damiano | gcsimon, of WHAT? |
| Piki | debian actually works better on my computer |
| damiano | gcsimon, of something that just gets stuck? |
| Piki | of the theme issue |
| damiano | gcsimon, well screenshot won't give you the feeling i'm afraid |
| damiano | but alright |
| damiano | i'll do it. |
| Piki | so far, i haven't had anything truly weird happening, though i have encountered a couple of bugs |
| Piki | damiano: i just filed the cd access issue, if you want to add any comments, take a look -->http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=634 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 634: major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, CDs not correctly recognized by TDE |
| damiano | now i can't go to file manager. Clicking on file manager - nothing. |
| damiano | ok... |
| damiano | but right now... i wish CD was the only prob... |
| damiano | listen.. i want you to connect to me. Can you do it? |
| Piki | if it's completely b0rked up, your best bet is to log out of tde, go to full screen terminal, and remove the .trinity folder |
| damiano | hm.... |
| Piki | that'll delete all the settings and start you fresh when you log back into tde |
| Piki | connect to you, how? |
| damiano | ssh? |
| damiano | and you'd look for DCOP files if there are any |
| damiano | :) |
| Piki | if you have ssh working with a user i can log into, and the forwarding setup, if needed |
| gcsimon | right, but if your are behind a firewall or router, this could get tricky |
| damiano | i do have a router, but some people already connected to me, so there's no prob |
| damiano | i'll give you the port too |
| damiano | i mean.. it's open. |
| gcsimon | and the password.... via IRC.... |
| Piki | yeah |
| damiano | sure |
| Piki | irc is plain text |
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| Piki | i wouldn't want to give my password or any of my login credentials in plain text |
| Piki | nor would i trust anybody connecting to my user, especially with any private data |
| damiano | i have no private data :) |
| damiano | i've lost it recently. |
| damiano | so it's only Debian actually |
| gcsimon | in any case, change the password to something temporaly you wouldn't use again. |
| damiano | doh.. ok |
| gcsimon | a least 29 peope receive the password into their IRC logs, including your IP |
| damiano | how do i change root password? |
| gcsimon | sudo passwd root |
| damiano | ok |
| damiano | ok, done |
| damiano | currently i can't even go to file manager. |
| damiano | frozen |
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| damiano | ok |
| Piki | did that help? |
| damiano | i'm here. And i can't take the CD out |
| damiano | well, there's no error |
| damiano | ...yet. |
| damiano | but that drive thing.... |
| damiano | is there anyway to eject the damn thing? |
| damiano | cause now manager is blocked by it again just because of me trying to get it out |
| Piki | use the eject command |
| damiano | did. |
| damiano | it just stopped spinning. |
| damiano | and that's it. |
| Piki | sudo eject |
| Piki | ? |
| damiano | ok |
| Piki | if eject as normal user doesn't work, force it to recognize the eject, tell it you mean business :-) |
| damiano | yeah.. worked.. |
| Piki | normally eject as root isn't needed |
| Piki | only on rare occasion |
| damiano | well... here it is, rare occasion. |
| Piki | i've had to use eject as root 5 times in the last four years |
| Piki | quite frustrating when it happens |
| Piki | "uh? can i have my cd back? i don't want you to melt it, i've no use for melted plastic and metal..." |
| damiano | ok. File manager doesn't let me in (computer) and theme manager is stuck again :) |
| damiano | you know what.. i never had it too. |
| damiano | but here it is. |
| damiano | i guess that means..... re-installation or... linux, kiss my ass goodbye. |
| Piki | just remove the .trinity directory |
| gcsimon | this almost sounds like a problem with X-org |
| damiano | alright... *goes reluctantly*... |
| damiano | what's the command?.. |
| Piki | 9 times out of 10, problems the occur in linux are user error, this looks like that 1 other time |
| Piki | damiano: after logging out, go to the full screen terminal, and use: |
| Piki | rm -rf .trinity |
| Piki | that'll reset tde settings |
| damiano | listen... i've been having this "1 other time" since the very time i got onto it... everytime it's something new! And it doesn't seem to end... |
| damiano | ok |
| gcsimon | damiano: first time with linux? |
| Piki | and you'll get the kpersonalizer wizard again |
| damiano | gcsimon, yeah. |
| damiano | gcsimon, but i don't think that explains it actually. I'm not using it to torture myself. |
| Piki | you'll just need to get used to the way linux works |
| damiano | at least that wasn't the intention |
| damiano | i see. |
| Piki | once you do, things will start making a lot more sense than windows |
| damiano | ok, hopefully. |
| Piki | yes, bugs do occur in linux, but once you get around them, things work a lot better |
| Piki | when i first switched, the first week and a half settling in and learning was frustrating, but now, i'll never look back |
| damiano | i've been having too much of them... starting from audio issues. And it was a pure fortune that Z-God suggested me to compile and update ALSA. It worked, yeah. But noone else told me that. I posted my prob on three forums. Nobody helped. |
| damiano | what i'm trying to say is that... of course, any prob can be solved. But HOW..... |
| gcsimon | damiano: i personally cannot recommend it to users, who have no linux-guru living arround the corner. as much as i like linux. there are too many thins a new user cannot know at the beginning, but is required to know. i started with linux server (openSuSE) and after two years using them, i did the switch of my desktop to linux, and kissed windows goodbye forever. |
| Piki | most of the old-time users have an RTFM attitude, that people should be able to find the issues themselves |
| Piki | fresh users, that's not always true |
| damiano | and i was also sharing with some guys i know.. telling them how many times i've reinstalled Debian just because of some shit that i didn't know how to fix... which occured because of some weird reasons... |
| damiano | now i feel like making fun of myself. |
| gcsimon | you are trying debian right now? |
| damiano | no, without Z-God i'd have never solved it myself. |
| damiano | yep. |
| Piki | damiano: you just need to find the right resources to help |
| damiano | only HERE, on this chan people really help and have some experience. |
| Piki | find a good forum or chat room, you'll get the help you need |
| damiano | in other places.... bollocks. |
| Piki | damiano: actually, for newbies, i'd recommend Ark Linux. i work with them, they're not as well known, but they are geared toward newbies |
| Piki | we don't have TDE yet, but our last stable has KDE3.5, from which TDE comes |
| Piki | Ark is how i started, the Ark people were quite helpful |
| damiano | i see.. |
| Piki | debian is great, just not as newbie-centric as Ark |
| damiano | i understand |
| Piki | and hopefully soon, i can get TDE compiled for them, that's really the main thing the development version needs before i personally will consider it beta |
| gcsimon | i can recommend openSuSE. no TDE for openSUSE but KDE4 or GNOME. |
| gcsimon | in suse you can do all (or nearly all) admin-taks via YaST |
| damiano | it uses Gnome 2.3x by the way |
| damiano | i've tried it actually. |
| damiano | nice. |
| Piki | (and hopefully we won't see all these bugs with .13, though worst case i can use 3.5.12, fewer complaints there) |
| damiano | so... what do i do now.... |
| damiano | delete that .trinity stuff? |
| damiano | ok... |
| damiano | be back |
| Piki | yes, that'll clear your trinity settings |
| Piki | won't touch your other non-tde software |
| gcsimon | damiano: if your really want to go linux: give openSuSE a try. is really easy. YaST will do the most stuff for you. |
| gcsimon | damiano: if there were TDE for openSuSE, i did still be using it. |
| Piki | wish i could give positive comment on opensuse, didn't work during any of my trials |
| Piki | that was awhile back, but still... |
| damiano | gcsimon, thanks for suggestion |
| gcsimon | well i guess every distro has something, or a poor release. i know suse isn't popular with the linux gurus, but it worked very well for me. |
| Piki | i tried several releases of opensuses, i think 10.4 and 11.1, can't remember for sure |
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| gcsimon | currently i'm in warfare with ubuntu. fresh ubuntu installation fails to boot after setup.... grub comlains about: "out of disk". took me an hour to find out whats wrong: BIOS setting |
| Piki | not to bash any other distros, but i'll always recommend ark as long as it exists :-) it's not newbie-only, that's just our main selling point |
| gcsimon | never heard of Ark. i know Arch. but thats not what you meant |
| Piki | right |
| Piki | people confuse Ark and Arch a lot |
| Piki | Ark isn't all that well known, most people who do tend to avoid it because they think it's newbie-only |
| Piki | it's not, it's meant to be easy enough for new users to linux, yet flexible enough to satisfy the veterans |
| gcsimon | well, if you had told me early, i might have choosen it. i just needed something that works with TDE. now i settled with ubuntu-server |
| Piki | we don't work with tde /yet/, our last stable is KDE3.5 (i think specifically 3.5.10) |
| Piki | i'm waiting on a few issues with out development release to be ironed out, once they are, i'll get TDE packages going |
| gcsimon | personally, i hope suse will pickup TDE again :P but i doubt that will happen any time soon. they seem to be quite happy with KDE4 |
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| Piki | Xu_R is doing tde packages for opensuse |
| gcsimon | cool |
| Piki | i doubt they'll be in the official mirrors, at least not right away |
| * Xu_R notes that I'm fighting a few issues with people with regards to KDE3 (coughIlyacough) | |
| damiano | back.. |
| Piki | damiano: any improvement? |
| damiano | dunno |
| damiano | gonna look around |
| gcsimon | *just managed to crash kontact* |
| Piki | gcsimon: if it was trying to setup a CalDAV calendar, i already put that in the bug tracker |
| Piki | korganizer apparently doesn't like caldav, and korganizer is what kontact uses for the calendar |
| gcsimon | Piki: no was a problem with kmail. moving a mail out of trash into another folder crashed it. dunno why. sometimes movinf mail arround makes kmail crash. |
| Piki | see if it's in the bug tracker, if not, then file a bug report |
| gcsimon | i know this it what one is suposed to do. but if i file a gug report for every kde app crash... gosh i had to do quite a lot bug reports :P |
| Piki | some of them are probably already there |
| gcsimon | yeah. just saw it ^ |
| Piki | besides, it won't get fixed if the devs don't know about it :-) |
| gcsimon | true |
| Piki | though if you don't want to file every single bug, then only file ones that seem important, or that you can reproduce |
| Piki | always file anything that can be reproduced |
| gcsimon | besides, if i had the sources for the kde-apps, and the debugging symbols installed, i maybe even could fix it myself |
| gcsimon | do you know how to to this with ubuntu? apt is still a mystherie to me |
| Piki | if you could fix it, you could submit a patch, then that patch can be added and fixed for other users :-) |
| gcsimon | that was the idea, yes. |
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| Piki | gcsimon: if you have the deb-src lines for tde in sources.list, then you use "apt-get source" instead of "apt-get install" |
| Piki | i don't think that'll pull in dependency sources |
| Piki | just the individual packgae you request |
| Piki | kontact is in kdepim (or however ubuntu names it) |
| Piki | there should also be a kdepin dbg package that you can apt-get install |
| Piki | kdepim* |
| gcsimon | "apt-get source kubuntu-desktop-trinity" didn't work. has trouble unpacking the package. |
| gcsimon | ok. trying with kdepim. |
| Piki | i think kubuntu-desktop-trinity is a meta package |
| gcsimon | kmail-trinity |
| Piki | those don't have any files to unpack, those just act as placeholders to pull in all the other files it's meant to install |
| gcsimon | ah. now it is downloading "kdepim-trinity" |
| gcsimon | looks good so far |
| gcsimon | ok. dpkg-dev was missing... |
| Piki | eh? dpkg-dev isn't related to tde, you should only need dpkg simply because it's the base package manager |
| gcsimon | assuming the packages were installed correctly, where sould the source files reside? |
| gcsimon | should* |
| Piki | depends on how ubuntu unpacks the source files |
| Piki | i think on my system it unpacks them in whatever directory i'm inm |
| gcsimon | /root/kdepim-trinity-3.5.13 |
| gcsimon | ;-) |
| Piki | you could try a "sudo updatedb" then use locate to find them |
| Piki | ok, don't think i can stay awake much longer, nearly 2 in the morning and my eyes are fighting against me, can't remember the last time (before yesterday) that i was up past midnight |
| gcsimon | 7:42 AM in germany :D |
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| gcsimon | Xu_R: if you need someone testing the packages for openSuSE, just ask me. i want to go back to openSuSE. and i keep one or two openSuSE boxes arround for other purposes |
| Xu_R | gcsimon: cool! I'll let you know when I have at least the core stuff ready :) |
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| damiano | hey... you know what... |
| damiano | i think that CD thing is Debian's issue. |
| gcsimon | could be |
| damiano | it doesn't matter if you're in TDE or Gnome or anything else. |
| gcsimon | i use ubuntu and it works |
| gcsimon | (with TDE) |
| damiano | yeah.. almost everything works in Ubuntu. |
| damiano | so that was a false bug. |
| damiano | maybe TDE is full of bugs.. but it has little to do with the reported one, |
| gcsimon | errm... i wouldn't agree to that. but at leat after some work you can make it work with ubuntu |
| gcsimon | least* |
| damiano | baboonto |
| damiano | you know something... |
| damiano | i dunno about baboontoo... |
| damiano | but Debian only sounds and looks cool... but really.. it's just a piece of junk.. outdated.. glitchy.. and just redundant. |
| damiano | i've finally realized that. I dunno how it works for the others, really. |
| damiano | and i think it's not my linux experience either. |
| damiano | it's just that.... some things are shit in this life... and you have to accept it. |
| damiano | i dunno, some people must love it so much so they actually unawarely re-write it.... |
| damiano | and then they say "hey, look! It works!" |
| gcsimon | debian is used by linux gurus on servers. it is suposed to be very secure and performant. i always stayed clear of it. i always was happy with suse. most debian gurus refuse suse. in debian there is no YaST. thats why the gurus like debian. ;-) |
| damiano | i think they like it just because it sounds and looks cool. |
| damiano | but it's just a... you know... |
| gcsimon | any debian gurus online? :P |
| damiano | everything is wrong in it..... everything |
| damiano | every single shit... |
| damiano | even those things that are totally not supposed to be wrong.. |
| damiano | i mean.. common... why on earth would you have to get any CD reading prob?! |
| damiano | that's so gay if you ask me.. |
| gcsimon | i think it wouldn't be there if there isn't a use-case for it. like with all stuff in linux... well eh... or at least with most stuff in linux. |
| damiano | furthermore.... why on earth would i have probs with audio...... that's so retarded if you ask me.... |
| damiano | though all linux based OSs are notorious by audio issues... |
| damiano | but still. |
| damiano | Ubuntu is alright as usual. Debian sucks. |
| gcsimon | really. if you are new to linux. the biggest mistake you could ever made is to start with debian. even i after (now 5 years) wouldn't touch it. |
| damiano | because of that shit i destroyed my partition D..... |
| damiano | well.. that was my fault. It wasn't Debian that destroyed it. |
| damiano | listen.. who could possible use it, huh? |
| _Pete_ | me |
| damiano | i wanna see some guy, on MY DAMN PC to solve those issues i keep getting every now and then! I wanna SEE THAT!! |
| gcsimon | found one ;-P |
| damiano | _Pete_, what do you do with Debian? |
| _Pete_ | this one is mostly server used via ssh |
| damiano | _Pete_, you know something... if you just click two times on gedit/kedit to write down something like "3423553634+4365345=4365345 ///$%$//$#%$%/454" then it probably should work fine for you. |
| damiano | aha, well yeah.. just what i mean |
| damiano | or terminal |
| damiano | to write down the same ridiculousness |
| damiano | of course it would work great! |
| _Pete_ | well i would use echo ""3423553634+4365345=4365345 ///$%$//$#%$%/454" >notes.txt |
| _Pete_ | dont bother to open editor for those |
| _Pete_ | and if I would bother it would be emacs not kate/gedit |
| damiano | but... hey.. ladies and gents.. no entertainment. Don't you try listening to music.. you probably dont have any sound.... don't you try using skype, it'd probably shut off any moment because of the same thing... don't you try inserting any CD's in your drive.. it will simply do you no good... and hey... go get a life will ya... there's nothing you can do with this thing. It's just meant to write down shit like 3423553634+4365345=4365345 ///$%$//$# |
| damiano | %$%/454. Bub. |
| damiano | i think Debian exists to promote Ubuntu. To see the progress compared to inferior version. |
| _Pete_ | debian unstable is pretty close to ubuntu |
| damiano | like... so someone would tell another one "hey! You're still messing with Debian? Listen, why don't you just install Ubuntu, huh" |
| _Pete_ | there tough you are not forced to use unity |
| damiano | _Pete_, yeah, i know. But one little thing: everything works there instantly |
| damiano | _Pete_, even its gnome is ugly. So it doesnt matter. |
| gcsimon | no. it does not |
| gcsimon | fresh ubuntu installation: won't boot on my mainboard |
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| damiano | i'm giggling here without a reason... really tired of this... |
| damiano | oh yeah, see |
| damiano | it's also hardware dependent |
| damiano | well ain't thaaat cuuuute... |
| damiano | tell you what.. |
| _Pete_ | also used to have debian in my eeePC |
| _Pete_ | one minor thing was you had to install wifi drivers manually |
| _Pete_ | otherwise everting worked fine |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: even the eeePC spacial keys? |
| gcsimon | special* |
| _Pete_ | at least suspend |
| damiano | Windows is, of course, mainstream piece of thrice-jerked-off commercial whore.... but hey... let's face the truth... it's optimized better. At least you'd never have such totally idiotic thing there, like audio crosslinking or bad CD support..... it's just gay... and amateur. What else can i say... it's not that i love Windows, it's just that i'm giving facts.... and no, you don't have to setup Debian to make your drive read CDs!!! I'd better writ |
| damiano | e my own OS from the scratch than to deal with somebodie's raw material and figure out HOW HE did it. Phew.... |
| gcsimon | welcome to linux ;-) |
| damiano | uhu.. right.. |
| damiano | and also... it's not that it doesn't read any CDs completely.. some does, some not)))) Now... that's really something unbelievable... |
| gcsimon | i choose linux, because there were things i couldn't do with windows. and when i started out 5 years ago, linux had very poor multimedia support. nowerdays nearly everything works out of the box. most soundcards have FOSS kernel drivers. and the two mainstream graphicsboard manufactors (ATI/nvidia) provide well working drivers. |
| damiano | Here i agree with you. It does have some interesting things. |
| damiano | i'm happy with those too. That's why i'm angry with it, there are good things in it and totally cheap bugs which are not even supposed to be there. |
| gcsimon | all in all. i do not miss the windows days. my only windows box left is used for gaming and visual studio. hate to turn it on - loud, ugly, slow like the OS installed on it |
| damiano | but it has no issues with audio and CDs. And many other things which i haven't discovered yet ;) |
| gcsimon | damiano: again: don't use debian. use something end-user-friendly. something not meant to run on servers, something were you don't have to write config files from scratch by hand. |
| damiano | it's not only CDs, common... there's a whole shitload of all possible various bugs for your amusement. |
| gcsimon | i had my crash with ubuntu to. nothing worked for me at first. but i believe was my fault. now i got it running. |
| damiano | gcsimon, listen.... i think any linux OS is somewhat bugged, ok? And if you tell me that this or that is better then i don't buy it, really... |
| gcsimon | they all have bugs. all work-in-progress. never realy finished. but thats somewhat the spirit of linux ;-) |
| damiano | exactly! |
| gcsimon | but hey! tell me were you can acquire 100% bug-free software? at redmond? no sir! ;-) |
| damiano | but hey... that spirit intimidates me. Cause if i be doing something serious and all of a sudden everything goes dark and brings something like "45rt324534+____rt45// fgdfg///wert/24?!!!/dfg//fg" on the screen then i guess i'd be furious |
| damiano | Windows is RELATIVELY secure! And compared to linux based software - 99% secure and optimized!! |
| damiano | yeah, linux has his own good points, BUT... |
| damiano | common... it's not meant for home use. Any linux. Even Ubuntu. It's still too much awkward even with those features. |
| damiano | at first i was only saying all this without having tried it actually. Now i'm saying this after f...ng with this shit for two weeks or more. |
| damiano | but yes, i do admit! It has really nice features! |
| damiano | but yet that thing is impossible to use! Only if there was no WIndows or any other software we'd manage to make it the best OS ever! |
| _Pete_ | two weeks :) |
| damiano | well yeah, isn't that enough to get angry with all those things? :) |
| _Pete_ | maybe you should go troll some other channel? |
| damiano | i can tell you what the problem is. |
| _Pete_ | me too: you found it between the chair you sit and the display in front |
| damiano | it's not that it has bugs and other things, no..... the prob is, nobody knows how to solve them. Tell me, for how long should i wank around on forums, chats and stuff to find out what's jamming the CD and other things? |
| damiano | _Pete_, so? Is anything else really required? |
| damiano | i feel like i've been screwed actually! |
| damiano | that's what.. |
| damiano | and yeah, don't worry... i'll leave... |
| damiano | let me just... express myself... and thereby to re-gain my normal self.. |
| damiano | the truth is... to understand and get along with linux you have to be the one who made it. Otherwise.. you're just wanking somebodies dick. Probably that guy's dick who made it. |
| gcsimon | btw. damiano, linux can work well even for non-guru users. my mother and my brother are both using linux. but they have the advantage of having someone arround who knows how to fix most of the gliches. |
| damiano | i'm not saying that it can't be used my friend... of course... i could do the same with my folks |
| damiano | but you see.... i don't wanna see cheap glitches. Out of principle. I don't want OS that doesn't work with CDs, you understand?.. |
| damiano | of course, it's just an example. |
| gcsimon | i wouldn't want that, too |
| damiano | but hey.. that was disturbing :) |
| damiano | well.. why WAS... it still IS. |
| damiano | so let me explains myself.. |
| damiano | i've had lotsa probs with Debian... almost all of them solved. Even audio.... |
| damiano | but hey... after having gone through all this...... i get this CD glitch??!! |
| damiano | it's just really discouraging you see..... really.... |
| damiano | i mean.. when something like this happens i may believe that anything at all could crash... so that doesn't really inspire me... |
| gcsimon | yeah. i understand that. (i destroyed a keyboard once because of SANE - but at end: was my own fault it didn't work) |
| damiano | hm... |
| gcsimon | i really understand you, can sometimes be really frustrating. but when i remeber back the times of windows 98. i installed it every day a new. came home from school. first thing i did was reinstalling windows 98. even knew the serial by heart |
| _Pete_ | CD? Isnt that little 1980's stuff? |
| gcsimon | windows 2000 was a geat leap - reinstall only once every two month or so. but at the end it was too small for me. needed more control over my system, more inside into it. |
| gcsimon | usually cd work with linux out-of-the-box. but could be anything that it didn't work for you. |
| gcsimon | also, there are still al lot of system out there, were linux just doesn't work as expected. somehow everything fails on these boxes. i know only one of them: a dell notebook. even very basic things failed on that notebook. but then, there are also many system (many of them in this very room i'm stitting) where windows refuses to work: bluescreen during setup. |
| gcsimon | if there were one perfect OS. we all did be using that. |
| gcsimon | (some believe apple made one, but i proved them wrong by example) |
| damiano | hahaha.. sorry... |
| damiano | just peeked back here... |
| damiano | funny thing with Windows 98 |
| damiano | actually.. i did the same. Though that took me a bit longer.. but yeah, i could reinstall it three days in a row too. |
| damiano | it was shitty indeed. |
| damiano | up to millenium |
| damiano | beginning with NT5.0 we got a really safe and solid Microsoft product - Windows 2000. |
| damiano | and XP as a slightly fortified and updated version of it. |
| damiano | re-enforced. |
| damiano | _Pete_, as for your remark..... no, it's not little 1980's stuff. |
| gcsimon | basically windows its quite safe. the architecture is safe. but then, there are three things a virus needs: a) many users/wide spread software, b) stupid users, c) a insecure system. windows got all three. ;-) |
| damiano | _Pete_, and if it comes down to that let us be precies, CD's were used at maximum in 90s, though they were created in 80s of course, but few people really used those. They were expensive and little known. |
| damiano | _Pete_, and also, i may not burn CD's (though i might anyway, who knows) but someone may just give me one with some interesting info or something he'd like to lookup... and what am i to say to him? That my damn good for nothing OS doesn't read CDs??? Common.... that's too bad to be true even :) |
| _Pete_ | sure it reads |
| damiano | nah, it doesnt |
| _Pete_ | in debian, automount is other thing |
| _Pete_ | try: cat /dev/youcddev |
| damiano | ok |
| _Pete_ | if that's not working you are right |
| damiano | just for you, my dear :) |
| _Pete_ | probably need to be root |
| damiano | cat: /dev/youcddev: No such file or directory |
| gcsimon | damiano: c'mon, linux works! i use it EVERYDAY. including CD, DVD, video, audio, email, IRC, ICQ, calendar, www, .... i do not use anything else. i only have linux. and one windows box dedicated to gaming and visual studio |
| damiano | that was root. |
| _Pete_ | youcddev = the device node in your computer that presents CD-drive |
| damiano | gcsimon, Ubuntu reads CDs, yeah. |
| damiano | _Pete_, ok, so?? Conclusions?? |
| damiano | i don't have this node or what? |
| _Pete_ | try cdrom |
| damiano | ok |
| damiano | it started reading shit from the disk |
| damiano | like.... piertuj0w49ut624t69q34u-s9etig0s-d9igfs9difrestfg |
| _Pete_ | so I was right |
| damiano | so WHAT?! It doesn't open!!! |
| _Pete_ | read != open |
| _Pete_ | :) |
| damiano | phahahah |
| damiano | you kidding me, right? :) |
| gcsimon | eject /dev/cdrom |
| damiano | yeah, it's out |
| gcsimon | but you ned to unmount it first - in case it is still mounted |
| damiano | what does it matter anyway.. |
| damiano | if i put it back it wont open it in manager.. |
| _Pete_ | gcsimon: I guess the "problem" is that debian is not automounint cds |
| damiano | not ALL |
| gcsimon | _Pete_: agreed |
| damiano | some disks it DOES read at once |
| damiano | how about that? |
| damiano | and i know that he'd read them ALWAYS |
| damiano | so it doesn't automount PARTICULAR DISKS!!! |
| damiano | which are what? What disks? Tell me? What's so special about them, huh? |
| gcsimon | guess debian lacks many "comfort" options |
| damiano | exactly, those you have to endup yourself |
| damiano | you know.. that reminds me of one thing.. |
| damiano | like one guy went to toilet and took a shit. ANd then you, poor janitor go there and cleanup his droppings. It maybe big, it maybe small... sometimes you're lucky, no shit at all! But you always know that sooner or later some jerk will come over there and make you a present. That's something about linux. |
| damiano | by the way.. sometimes shit is green or... black and white.... thats Debian "Xtraz". |
| gcsimon | why again, are you using debian? |
| damiano | because it sounds cool :) |
| damiano | also... because more software for it, more debs |
| damiano | also..because it has Gnome 2.30 |
| damiano | whereas Ubuntu has that 3rd shit |
| damiano | and many other things. It's standard and yet serious. Looking. |
| damiano | it startsup quickly. |
| damiano | faster than Ubuntu |
| damiano | many points. |
| damiano | of course, there's more software for Ubuntu. But it's more for Debian than for openSUSE for example.. or i dunno.. Slackware |
| gcsimon | so let me get this straight: you are complete new to linux, choosing the most complicated and unconfortable linux distribution worldwide, and then hope for some magic, to make it work? ;-) |
| damiano | is it really the most complicated and uncomfortable? |
| gcsimon | ah. maybe the source based system are more complicated. but debian is hardest from the binary-based ones |
| damiano | common... in any linux there's some shit and not less surprising than here. As i already said above - i don't buy it. |
| gcsimon | and other system are better? |
| damiano | Archlinux and Slackware are the most sophisticated |
| damiano | in my opinion |
| gcsimon | so use them |
| damiano | and Debian is supposed to be half home half specialized |
| damiano | why would i use them? |
| gcsimon | because you like em better than debiab |
| damiano | Ubuntu is like completely home OS |
| damiano | i never said that |
| gcsimon | then use ubuntu |
| damiano | well i don't like Ubuntu. New shitty gnome (which i have to set back first), loads up slowly.... |
| damiano | listen.. CD thing is the only prob i got left. |
| damiano | i've had no more issues with Debian. |
| gcsimon | and. btw. you can probably install gnome 2.3 on ubuntu. asking someone who knows about aptitude can probably tell you how. |
| damiano | oh no... |
| damiano | i'm not into that.. |
| damiano | i've had just about enough.. |
| damiano | tell you what! Pikki thinks that it's TDE that doesn't read CD! But it's not! |
| damiano | hhehe. |
| damiano | when he comes back tell him to start a different session ;) |
| damiano | other than TDE |
| damiano | and try his Debian CD again |
| damiano | in a shell of course. |
| damiano | it won't work. |
| gcsimon | well, it works at my place. so i think that rules out TDE. |
| damiano | it's not TDE, of course. |
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| damiano | hey. |
| damiano | i think i finally understood what the prob is. |
| damiano | he doesn't read CDs with AUTORUN |
| damiano | no. Wrong. |
| damiano | he does. |
| damiano | but he definitely doesn't read Debian disks for some reason, and some other ones. |
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| rzs19 | http://diogogomes.com/2010/11/14/debian-install-iconnect/ hmm, costs 45€, maybe xrdp and tde? :P |
| rzs19 | 256 mb and 1 GHz |
| rzs19 | i have a dockstar running with dhcpd, nfs, samba, tftpd, openvpn,lighttpd, and xrdp with jwm and it has only 128 mb ram. |
| rzs19 | maybe i will buy one and try if i can run a remote session of tde(irc client, mail client, development with kate), otherwise i will use it as my second home server. ;) |
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| gcsimon | hi all |
| gcsimon | who wanted to rewrite bluetooth for TDE again? |
| gcsimon | i'm now confronted with bluetooth again, and i wanted to help testing |
| rzs19 | i'am |
| rzs19 | i don't know if there is anyone other |
| gcsimon | my problem lies with a logitech mx5500 desktop (keyboard+mouse), and simply adding bluetooth to TDE will not solve the hole thing, because i need to use that keyboard during login |
| gcsimon | ah cool |
| rzs19 | well i just work on obex over bluetooth for tde. |
| gcsimon | ah ok |
| rzs19 | so you see atm i work only on filetransfer. |
| gcsimon | ok. so there must be another ways of hetting the keyboard/mouse to work. |
| gcsimon | getting* |
| rzs19 | yep there are some howtos online. try search google. |
| gcsimon | well i got it paired with gluetooth-applet (from gnome). and it worked for the session. but was gone again after a reboot. |
| rzs19 | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/set-up-a-bluetooth-keyboard-and-mouse-in-fedora-10/398 |
| gcsimon | but i will try google |
| rzs19 | atm i don't have much time, but i will try to find a confortable way to solve such problems. |
| rzs19 | but before that, i need to finish obex support :) |
| gcsimon | yeah, it's not time critical. the keyboard can wait. i have another one of course (or otherwiese i wouldn't be able to type this right now ;-) ). just wanted you to know, that i can likely help you testing. |
| Z_God | gcsimon: I use blueman |
| gcsimon | i also got other bluetooth devices (headset, mobile phone, other bluetooth-enabled-pc's) |
| rzs19 | if i got something working i will inform you :) |
| gcsimon | good :) |
| Z_God | it works fine with trinity and my mouse also works before login after I had set it up with that |
| gcsimon | ok. i will give that a try |
| Z_God | so I guess keyboard would be the same |
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| damiano | alright, i'm back |
| Z_God | is werner in here? |
| damiano | hey Z_God ... |
| damiano | dunno who's werner... |
| damiano | i have two things to tell ya |
| Z_God | ok? |
| damiano | first.. i've tried my old IDE drive... it works just fine. Conclusion... poor compatibility with nwere SATA drives.. |
| Z_God | I'm mail him, seems his system clock is set wrong |
| damiano | that's to the point of slow startup of some disks.. |
| damiano | remember? |
| damiano | or i didn't tell you this? |
| damiano | and another things.. you were interested in dictionaries... |
| damiano | i use two.. very nice ones |
| Z_God | ok? :) |
| Z_God | make sure your mobo is set to sata mode |
| damiano | Context 5.0 (rus-eng, eng-rus) and Van Dale Pocketwoordenboeken |
| damiano | mobo?? |
| Z_God | AHCI mode |
| Z_God | mainboard |
| damiano | ah... |
| damiano | hm... |
| damiano | well it should be.. |
| Z_God | you can check with lspci |
| damiano | ok! |
| Z_God | I will look into those |
| damiano | i can send you them |
| Z_God | you have them working on debian? |
| damiano | not now, but they do work just fine in Wine |
| damiano | there's only one little thing..... |
| damiano | about Context... it requires native UTF-8 thing... that means you'll have to change locales for it somehow, cause it shows hyerogliphs |
| Z_God | I have utf-8 |
| damiano | locales may in turn change the language either of your console or whole environment |
| Z_God | I cannot imagine someone installing their system without it |
| _Pete_ | damiano: Context, the text editor? |
| damiano | _Pete_, no, dictionary |
| damiano | Z_God, you'd like it, it's very nice |
| Z_God | damiano: you have a torrent? |
| damiano | as for Van Dale.. i'd not have mentioned it unless it was a bit unique... it translates from dutch to english/spanish/german/french and from any of these languages back to dutch |
| damiano | sure |
| damiano | you want me to upload this stuff? |
| damiano | hey... i'll just generate link for you via HFS.. hang on. |
| Z_God | I don't really need van dale I guess |
| Z_God | but context would be cool :) |
| damiano | ok... |
| damiano | Context is the BEST rus-eng thing ever for me |
| damiano | small, fast, friendly interface and yet it's not very famous. |
| damiano | but it's very good. |
| Z_God | yeah it's fast |
| Z_God | that's your own server I guess? |
| Z_God | I'm using lingvo right now |
| Z_God | I will try context soon |
| damiano | nope.. it's an utility.. also very handy for me |
| damiano | i use it through wine though.. |
| damiano | http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/ |
| damiano | you may use it too if you want. However, i've been looking forward to some similar linux app. |
| damiano | by the way, there's Context 7.0, it's the latest version, but i don't like it. Starting from 6 it's bloated and slow on startup. 5th is just fine and real quick. |
| damiano | and has all the words you need, trust me :) |
| damiano | ok... restart for me... |
| damiano | be back in a bit. |
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| damiano | hey |
| damiano | you were right about bios... SATA was set to IDE |
| damiano | and there was RAID and ACHPI or something... i set the latter.. |
| damiano | now it seems to be working fine |
| damiano | even though, it doesn't freeze up my system anymore.. but it's still kinda slow.. |
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| Z_God | damiano: what's slow? |
| Z_God | I'm mainly looking for a dutch<>russian dictionary |
| Z_God | the latest lingvos can do it |
| Z_God | but I haven't tried them in wine much yet |
| damiano | i see... |
| damiano | slow disk opening |
| damiano | not all, but some. |
| damiano | such issues i must've never had. |
| Z_God | I don't really know what slow disk opening means to be honest |
| damiano | damn... |
| damiano | identifying |
| damiano | i dunno how to explain, these problems are so stupid it's even hard to describe it |
| Z_God | when does that happen? |
| damiano | when i just insert a disk it first attempts to identify it |
| damiano | and that takes time and sometimes hangs up system a bit |
| Z_God | I thought you talked about your hard disks |
| Z_God | you mean optical disks? |
| damiano | not all disks, but some. Drive is alright, as well as cd/dvd |
| damiano | yes. |
| damiano | it's just something about Debian.... |
| damiano | i put my old IDE drive - works alright. |
| Z_God | you could check dmesg |
| damiano | ok |
| Z_God | don't know otherwise |
| damiano | 814.835479] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Medium Error [current] |
| damiano | [ 814.835489] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error |
| damiano | [ 814.835498] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 04 e8 56 00 00 01 00 |
| damiano | [ 814.835516] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1286488 |
| damiano | [ 814.835526] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 321622 |
| damiano | [ 821.797823] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Unhandled sense code |
| damiano | [ 821.797827] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENS |
| damiano | 828.760372] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Medium Error [current] |
| damiano | [ 828.760382] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error |
| damiano | [ 828.760391] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 04 e8 56 00 00 01 00 |
| damiano | [ 828.760410] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1286488 |
| Z_God | yep |
| damiano | [ 828.760419] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 321622 |
| damiano | last lines |
| Z_God | broken disc or broken drive |
| damiano | no man. |
| damiano | it's not... |
| Z_God | those errors come from your drive |
| damiano | this drive has been serving me well on windows. And discs as well. |
| damiano | i see, but it's not true! |
| damiano | moreover, it reads those damn discs afterwards! |
| damiano | i just have to wait till it stops analyzing it |
| Z_God | it can happen yep |
| damiano | shit... |
| Z_God | but when your drive sends back errors |
| Z_God | it's probably not in an optimal condition anymore |
| Z_God | new optical drives here are extremely cheap |
| Z_God | dunno there |
| damiano | it behaves weird here.. |
| damiano | on windows there was no such thing. |
| damiano | it's new man... my old drive works better now that that |
| Z_God | you got a new IDE drive? |
| damiano | well it's like 2 years old |
| damiano | even a bit less |
| damiano | and shit... no, not IDE |
| damiano | it's SATA |
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| damiano | mja... |
| Z_God | damiano: there are some tools to change drive parameters |
| Z_God | maybe you could look at those |
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| * Strangelv always keeps an instance of top running. Things running slow usually means something is wanting t consume too much RAM. This is not as frqeuently a problem as it used to be when he was using a machine that only had 4 GB of RAM | |
| Strangelv | Okay, disc or disk trouble... |
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| Strangelv | "Hello. The topics are disc or disk trouble and how much difficulty I'm having catching up with things |
| * Strangelv and his thicker than normal brain fog attempt to find the kitchen to be confused there | |
| MutantTurkey | hehe |
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| rzs19 | hey MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | hey doode |
| MutantTurkey | what's good? |
| rzs19 | nothing... and you? |
| MutantTurkey | work |
| rzs19 | okay atm i'am also at work... working with web2py... |
| rzs19 | my first project with this framework and i have no clue how to use it right *reading the docu* |
| MutantTurkey | web2py? |
| rzs19 | a webframework for python |
| MutantTurkey | yuck |
| MutantTurkey | not for me :P |
| rzs19 | yeah, i'am forced to use it... |
| MutantTurkey | well |
| MutantTurkey | what is your job? |
| rzs19 | software developer. we develop fligh engines... |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| * MutantTurkey is a lowly college intern | |
| rzs19 | yeah... so cool... another webpage... -.- |
| rzs19 | of course i love web developing, 100 webbrowsers 100 new problems |
| rzs19 | sry for my sarcasm... |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | web browsers are evil! |
| rzs19 | yep! |
| rzs19 | 2 years ago, i was administrator an a "backend" developer and now... i create html forms, get insane with css and the support in browsers and those damn div layouts with 500 workarounds. |
| rzs19 | IE 5.5, IE 6.0 |
| MutantTurkey | IE5.0? |
| MutantTurkey | seriousl...? |
| rzs19 | IE 6.0 yep, IE 5.5 i don't know, some maybe? |
| MutantTurkey | DUDE |
| MutantTurkey | stop supporting 6.0 |
| Strangelv | "Does 6.0 and 5.5 mattera nymore beyond it working and ebing readible? Something I've seen sites including /. fail to do with firefox 2 |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.ie6countdown.com/ |
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| Strangelv | "MSIE 6 users should be used to thinkgs looking ugly |
| MutantTurkey | 8% of th world uses MS6 |
| MutantTurkey | sup Piki |
| rzs19 | well i'am in a big comany and much of the customers use ie 6.0 becouse it is certified. |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: no... |
| MutantTurkey | unless you are in china :P |
| Strangelv | which may be smaller than NS 4's market share befocre it became a bigger problem than MSIE 6 will likely ever be |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: I mean,well at least see that link :P |
| MutantTurkey | 1.3% of IE in the us is IE 6 |
| Piki | i should hope ANY MSIE isn't certified! :-) |
| Strangelv | "My understanding is most MSIE 6 users don't actually have a choice in the matter |
| rzs19 | i know that ms will ie 6.0 see death, but not the customers... |
| * Strangelv wonders what Morden the Preventer of IT Services will do after he's forcred to migrate away from XP and MSIE 6 | |
| Strangelv | "Install an emulator for MSIE 6 on all user's machines? |
| MutantTurkey | why would anyone want to use MSIE6 |
| rzs19 | like IE Tester? :D |
| MutantTurkey | is doesnt support anything... |
| * MutantTurkey hates corporations who make bad decisions | |
| rzs19 | on my private projects, i doesnt support andy old stupid browser. |
| Strangelv | ...achtually, given that there's a lot of enterpries level stuff that can't run on MSIE 7 or better or any other browser, I would not be teh least bit surprised to see that happen... |
| MutantTurkey | frankly it is 2011. that browser is 10 years old |
| MutantTurkey | I mean 10 years ago that was like kde 2.x |
| rzs19 | i haveworked on a desktop like web framework, but after to much browser war, i got frustrated |
| Piki | support a new stupied browser |
| Strangelv | "It almost supports CSS, doesn't try to run too many things that are after its time (unlike Netscape 4), and will correctly run most javascript. Getting things to work with it messily isn't that hard |
| Piki | ie6 doesn't support _any_ modern browser features |
| Strangelv | If you're doing html 5 video you'er arguably liberated from even trying. |
| Piki | anybody who uses vista or 7 won't have ie6 |
| Strangelv | ...and I don't know how many MSIE 6 users are doing it for a media experience anyway |
| Strangelv | They're using it because they're chained to it |
| rzs19 | yeah but IE / and IE 8 are alose crap |
| rzs19 | IE 7* |
| Piki | but they'll have good alternatives like firefox and arora |
| Strangelv | I'd ditch 7 support before 6. I don't know of anyone being chained to it |
| Strangelv | "It was always a transitional browser |
| rzs19 | they should use wget and parse the source in there heads |
| Piki | there's 8, and i think they're doing a 9 |
| Strangelv | 9 is availabmle for NT 7 |
| Strangelv | I believe |
| Piki | nt7? |
| Strangelv | Windows 7 |
| Piki | never heard of it |
| Strangelv | 2000 and XP were NT 5; |
| Piki | last version of nt i know of is nt4 |
| Strangelv | Vista was NT 6 |
| Strangelv | It was never marketed as NT 7 |
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| rzs19 | windows neptune! |
| Piki | Windows NT7: New Trash 7! |
| Strangelv | "nor was NT 5 or 6 and after Me was knifed the distinction between Windows and Windows NT became mostly historical |
| Strangelv | NT in its day was pretty good, if rather slow at first |
| rzs19 | well, why not xenix? |
| Strangelv | Smetime in the late 1990s Microsoft lost what focus it had |
| rzs19 | stupid idea to split of from OS/2 |
| Strangelv | Xenix I could go for. 8) |
| Strangelv | Need a 64 bit version and you need to liberate it from the ruins of SCO/Caldera |
| rzs19 | Caldera OpenLinux was my first Linux Distribution and KDE 1.1 was onboard :D |
| Strangelv | Last I checked it mastly ran cash registers for MTcDonalds and the like |
| rzs19 | LIZARD :D |
| rzs19 | Hessen Center run grml, rmv bus used SuSE |
| Strangelv | grml? |
| rzs19 | grml linux |
| * Strangelv is needing to head out the door. He just got sidetracked | |
| rzs19 | is a distribution from austria, if i remember right? |
| Strangelv | I have a disk image for SLS, direct predecessor to Slackware in my /zip directory; does that count? No, I've not gotten it to run |
| rzs19 | fox desktop was cool |
| rzs19 | used kxdocker and kde 3.3 |
| Strangelv | kxdocker -- is taht another alternative to kicker? |
| rzs19 | yep |
| Strangelv | Anyoen up for trying to port it to TDE 14? |
| Strangelv | WE culd give teh user a choice of three. 8) |
| rzs19 | well, but you can use my karamba dock :P |
| Strangelv | Okay, four or more. Even better |
| rzs19 | *never ever say anything about kxdocker, or some other piece of software* |
| Strangelv | Kicker, the one I can't remembder rthe name of right now that's already mostly ported, kxdocker, and karamba dock? |
| Strangelv | ? |
| rzs19 | there is a successor to kxdocker, called qtde |
| * Strangelv finds out about teh existence of something named Kiba-dock | |
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| Strangelv | Looks like its developer is wanting to replace it wint a new productc built around Qt4. We could adopt it and rename it TXDock. 8P |
| MutantTurkey | this documentaion discussion is pissing me off >_< |
| rzs19 | what for a documentation discussion? |
| * Strangelv is sued by TxDOT for trademark infringement. Also they now want to impound his house for the Trans Texas Corridor By Any Other Name. | |
| Strangelv | What's happening? |
| MutantTurkey | some ongoing discussion about a Trinity Users Guide |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: ? i dunno |
| MutantTurkey | lunch time soon |
| Strangelv | ...and I'm needing to roll out the door |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: still at home sleepyhead? :P |
| rzs19 | hmm, i'am hungry |
| MutantTurkey | made eggs this morning, but I think chineese for lunch |
| Strangelv | I'm somewhere between housebound and bedbound. I'm normally home. |
| * Strangelv tries to note http://tech.xiaprojects.com/index.php?section=All&project=KXDocker for future reference | |
| Strangelv | ...or maybe it's a bit biggerl than just a kicker alternative... |
| * Strangelv waves | |
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| rzs19 | its much, much biger, its like emaces, a whole operating system ;D |
| MutantTurkey | KXDocker huh? |
| MutantTurkey | I'd like a Mac Docker style |
| MutantTurkey | not one that just launches but also docks |
| MutantTurkey | and shows me what applications are currently opn |
| MutantTurkey | etc |
| rzs19 | kxdocker does, my dockerdoes |
| rzs19 | AriDynDock does |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 635 filed by sysoevd@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=635 major, P4, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Incorrect conversion of encodings in kmail-imap (or something) |
| _Pete_ | howdy, how should I configure klipper so if url is copied, there's action to open in firefox? |
| _Pete_ | default config doesnt seem to have any actions |
| jumpship | Not sure what you mean, no actions in the config, or the popup doesn't work? |
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| _Pete_ | no actions in config |
| _Pete_ | there used to be preconfigured |
| Piki | _Pete_: if you configure the Control Center to open links in firefox, you shouldn't need to copy them |
| _Pete_ | yes but I use irssi in konsole |
| Piki | you'd just click them, unless the link is formatted so it's not clickable |
| Piki | ah |
| _Pete_ | or does that help there too? |
| Piki | you'd have to copy-and-paste |
| Piki | i don't think links in konsole are clickable |
| _Pete_ | actually they are in XFCE |
| jumpship | I'm still on .12 and I have several actions by default, I can tell you what they say, but the bigger issue is it may be a bug |
| _Pete_ | or in gnome-term |
| _Pete_ | whatever |
| _Pete_ | would be nice feature to TDE too |
| Piki | firefox isn't a TDE/KDE app, so unless there's an option to make TDE recognize it the same way as a clickable link in a gui irc client, i don't think it's possible |
| * Piki checks his konsole swettings to see if he can find something | |
| _Pete_ | but I remember from earlier versions of TDE |
| _Pete_ | the klipper was pre-configured to open copy/paste link to all common browsers |
| _Pete_ | now there are none |
| jumpship | The one that for firefox regex: |
| jumpship | ^https?://. |
| jumpship | the action: |
| jumpship | ps x |grep -q '[f]irefox' && firefox -remote openURL\(%s, new-window\) || firefox %s |
| Piki | _Pete_: not that i remember, unless it was done by your distro packagers |
| Piki | some distros do custom patching for that, but i don't think it's in an unpatched tde |
| _Pete_ | jumpship: perfect, thanks |
| jumpship | np |
| _Pete_ | how about this |
| _Pete_ | if url is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HEowAmId6Y&feature=related |
| _Pete_ | I double click in konsole, it doesnt select whole url |
| _Pete_ | I remember that also wasnt earlier in case |
| jumpship | same here, dclick on youtube only selects up to watch |
| _Pete_ | so konsole configuration to set correct regexp |
| _Pete_ | some |
| jumpship | To make it select the whole address, I had to add "?=&" to the config |
| jumpship | to the double click consider the following characters part of a word when double clicking line |
| _Pete_ | set it to: :@-./_~?=& |
| _Pete_ | and still doesnt work |
| jumpship | yeah, the others were there already for me |
| jumpship | Then I don't know, it worked when I did that |
| _Pete_ | hmm |
| _Pete_ | I needed to launch another instance of konsole |
| _Pete_ | then it works |
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| _Pete_ | nice... except for that craching kicker this starts to come perfect again |
| jumpship | that strange that I didin't have to restart it, but whatever :) |
| _Pete_ | I use ubuntu11.10 as "host" |
| jumpship | You're using Squeeze? |
| jumpship | sorry, beat me to it |
| Piki | squeeze isn't ubuntu |
| Piki | squeeze is debian |
| Piki | ubuntu uses two words for their code names :-) |
| jumpship | Yes, switch the timing of those two messages around |
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| MutantTurkey | hey ZenWalker |
| MutantTurkey | :x |
| MutantTurkey | I mean Z_God :P |
| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: was it you I tried to solve that 32bit mystery? |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: I was around |
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| _Pete_ | figured out the problem |
| _Pete_ | in the install of TDE |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| _Pete_ | due the dependency problems |
| _Pete_ | apt removed almost everything |
| _Pete_ | like those needed librarier |
| MutantTurkey | do you know what it specifically was? |
| _Pete_ | then there was some conflict |
| _Pete_ | I didnt notice |
| _Pete_ | when that was resolved |
| _Pete_ | I could insall libc:i386 again |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | cool! |
| _Pete_ | definatelly that's a bug in TDE |
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| Piki | the new gmail interface is getting me confused |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: yes which is why more information would be good |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: yeah well I sort of like it, sort of hate it :P |
| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: what more you need? |
| Piki | i hate it, the old was better |
| MutantTurkey | _Pete_: what the conflict was. |
| Piki | the new one is too flat, the coloring looks strange to my eyes, and the buttons keep changing around |
| MutantTurkey | change is change. |
| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: yes indeede |
| MutantTurkey | we need that to fix the problem |
| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: you should always have recordmydesktop on when solving these |
| Piki | change isn't always good :-) |
| _Pete_ | MutantTurkey: it was qt doc something |
| Piki | i found a better color scheme in the themes, i wish i could switch back to the old interface though |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: then again, you get to use gmail for free |
| _Pete_ | sorry dont remember any better |
| _Pete_ | but it was conflict between qt TDE repo vs ubuntu |
| _Pete_ | the first didnt install before second was removed |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i could probably use my own email system for free through dyndns :-) |
| Piki | or forward my domain to my home computer |
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| MutantTurkey | dydns? pfft |
| MutantTurkey | freedns.afraid.org |
| MutantTurkey | is actualy free |
| Piki | i've always been afraid of organizations |
| Piki | i could also use the arklinux dns, our head dev set it up and offered to let me use it when i lost my job |
| Piki | or i could setup my own, my registrar allows that |
| MutantTurkey | afraid of organizations. ha ha ha |
| Piki | or use my registrar, i'm thinking of setting up my own though |
| MutantTurkey | do you have a domain? |
| MutantTurkey | my domain host provdes me with free dns |
| MutantTurkey | but not dynamic afaik |
| MutantTurkey | well I have a static IP |
| Piki | yes, i have a few |
| Piki | both my registrar and my vps have free dns |
| Piki | my registrar supports dyndns |
| Piki | i wish i did |
| Piki | i doubt verizon would allow it |
| Piki | they' |
| Piki | d probably block it if they found out |
| Piki | i don't remember seeing dyndns in their router anyway |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 637 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=637 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Patches required to build qt3 on Slackware |
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| rzs19 | hello |
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| damiano | hey... |
| damiano | anyone alive? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 638 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=638 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Potato Guy game can't find pictures |
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| rzs19 | good morning :) |
| _Pete_ | morning |
| _Pete_ | .. here too |
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| banished | Hi, when I try to start cheese under trinity on Ubuntu 11.10, I get Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported |
| _Pete_ | hmm is this considered as bug: in amarok, if I set it to use mysql db to store things |
| _Pete_ | first there was no account/db in mysql and it said can't connect |
| _Pete_ | then I correct that, after that when you press apply/ok it still doesnt take mysql in use |
| _Pete_ | only after you first select other option then back to mysql it works |
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| banished | it works when I start it from within gnome |
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| rzs19 | which service informs kde if a new device is pluged in? HAL, PolicyKit? |
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| MutantTurkey | WOHOOO |
| MutantTurkey | kickoff is done |
| MutantTurkey | pretty much |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: great news :) |
| rzs19 | ähm tde* |
| MutantTurkey | just the same old transparency bug :/ |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: ? |
| rzs19 | my whole desktop runs inside a lx container, so i need to create devices manually and create a config for lxc to allow this device, so i need to write a daemon which forwards such events. |
| rzs19 | i need to know how tde is informed which new device is plugged in, like a usb stick is plugged in. |
| MutantTurkey | hal |
| rzs19 | okay :) |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| saleem | hello MutantTurkey |
| rzs19 | its confussing with policykit, so i don't know if hal just creates the device file |
| saleem | thanks for the email reply |
| rzs19 | or promote it |
| MutantTurkey | hey saleem |
| MutantTurkey | saleem: what email? |
| MutantTurkey | sorry I get a lot >_> |
| MutantTurkey | saleem: Archlinux builds right? |
| saleem | it was regarding the AUR packages for current trinity release |
| saleem | yes |
| MutantTurkey | Yeah I'll have hopefully freetime today, especially now that i tackled this kicker crash, I have a chem exam in 20 minute so I ned to go |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | i'll look now |
| saleem | somehow trinity-kdelibs fail to compile |
| MutantTurkey | what makeflags are you using in /etc/makepkg.confi |
| MutantTurkey | or whatever? |
| MutantTurkey | if you have parrallel builds enabled it will break (eg -j4 j2 whatever) |
| saleem | i will look and paste for you |
| MutantTurkey | that might be the problem, not sure |
| MutantTurkey | I gotta split and study thugh |
| MutantTurkey | saleem: give me 3ish hours |
| MutantTurkey | i'll be home nad ready to triage this MOFO. |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | catch ya later alligator |
| saleem | sure i will get more info meanwhile so you can know what causes build fail for me |
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| rzs19 | bye, cu all later |
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| damiano | heya fellas. |
| _Pete_ | any good debian news? |
| damiano | yep |
| damiano | what working is working. |
| damiano | :) |
| damiano | but... to be fair.. i stay away from TDE for a while. Last version seems to be a bit glitchy actually. |
| damiano | so... later on. |
| damiano | .12 is more stable. |
| damiano | by the way.. ive managed to find Skype Call Recorder built by some guy for Debian amd64, it's never been updated actually, but it works like a miracle. |
| damiano | other builds are i386 only. Never amd64. |
| damiano | i was a bit furious last time :) |
| damiano | but it's due to exhaust.. |
| damiano | hadn't slept for a while. |
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| drakuwa | the layout switching xkb option does not work on TDE 3.5.13, anyone had this problem and know how to resolve it? |
| damiano | it's not only in 3.5.13 |
| damiano | same in .12 |
| damiano | i couldn't get it to work. Dunno why. |
| drakuwa | works when you manually click on the system tray icon, but I've tried a few key combinations - nothing |
| damiano | i know. |
| damiano | just don't bother.. it doesn't work that way. Just use Scroll lock led. |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: dude |
| MutantTurkey | around ? |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: sup |
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| damiano | hey people.. |
| damiano | does anyone know how to configure apache2/phphsysinfo? |
| Piki | damiano: if you're still on debian, the packages you need to install are called php5 and apache2 |
| Piki | you'd install those |
| Piki | i forget how to configure apache, i haven't used it in a long time, so someone else will have to help you further |
| damiano | i see.. |
| damiano | thanks |
| damiano | all files installed |
| Piki | but the basic setup is to use a vhost (virtualhost) to tell apache where your site's files are stored, and what it should respond to (e.g. www.something.com, or if it's localhost, then respond to localhost) |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: try out lighttpd :) |
| Piki | there's a 3rd party software repository for debian in case you need a newer apache/php. they're still apache2 and php5, just minor releases |
| MutantTurkey | cough cough lighttpd is way cooler :P |
| Piki | or nginx, that's what i use now, less resource-intensive and faster than apache :-) |
| MutantTurkey | i mean, you don't see youtube using it |
| Piki | i never used lighttpd |
| Iguleder | guys, what Trinity applications do you use most often? |
| MutantTurkey | who uses lighttpd? youtube, meebo, wikipedia, isohunt |
| damiano | ok, thanks.. |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: konsole |
| MutantTurkey | amarok |
| MutantTurkey | kicker :P |
| MutantTurkey | http://redmine.lighttpd.net/wiki/lighttpd/PoweredByLighttpd |
| MutantTurkey | cool list |
| Piki | konsole, amarok, konversation, kopete, kontact |
| Iguleder | those that aren't part of kdebase :) |
| Strangelv | konversation... |
| Piki | konqueror too |
| * Strangelv doesn't remember which ones are in KDEBase | |
| Iguleder | Kopete, Amarok and Konversation are the most popular as far as I know |
| Strangelv | KPatience |
| Iguleder | Strangelv: Kicker, Konsole, Konqueror, ... |
| Piki | konversation and kontact (which pulls in korganizer, kmail, and akregator, and several other things) aren't in kdebase |
| MutantTurkey | oh konversation |
| MutantTurkey | that too :) |
| MutantTurkey | konqueror for kdebase.. |
| Strangelv | KPPP is kind of essential, but I've not used it since I moved and Verizon cut off my DSL a week before I moved out |
| MutantTurkey | Kontact. |
| Iguleder | I guess it's part of kdepim |
| MutantTurkey | honestly Kontact kicks ass. |
| MutantTurkey | it manages everything i need |
| MutantTurkey | and I dont even do anything! |
| Iguleder | I need to decide which build script to write next :) |
| Iguleder | lol |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: for what? |
| Strangelv | KEdit I use all teh time and evry heavily -- yet I've also found not not be installed by default sometimes |
| Iguleder | I'm the guy who writes build scripts for Puppy |
| MutantTurkey | oh cool |
| Piki | Strangelv: you don't need kppp for verizon dsl, their routers run a dhcp server, just plug in the ethernet or connect via wireless :-) |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: I am very bad at remembering who is who :P |
| Strangelv | I wasn't using KPPP for DSL.p I was using it for dialup |
| Piki | Iguleder: i didn't know puppy was getting tde, i'll have to check that out |
| Iguleder | (basically, they are used with a build system compatible with any distro which I wrote on my own) |
| Strangelv | When I was without DSL and FiOS wasn't set up yet |
| MutantTurkey | anyone use kickoff yet? |
| MutantTurkey | FiOS is nice :) |
| MutantTurkey | I love it. |
| Strangelv | no, but I look forward to seeing it. I'm still running 12 |
| MutantTurkey | wish i had business class though. |
| MutantTurkey | also I'd like some 4G seriously... thinking about switching to sprint or tmobile |
| Piki | i hate verizon altogether, their dsl kept cutting out, and so does their fios |
| Iguleder | Piki: I ported TDE to Puppy about a year ago, now I'm doing it the right way |
| Strangelv | Verizon hasl treated me well, but ones' mileage may vary significantly by region. I'm in former GTE territory |
| Strangelv | "not BellSouth, Bell Atlantic, et c. |
| Piki | and their tv keeps doing that weird box thing that digital tvs do with a bad signal |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: luckily philadelphia suburbs gets good speeds. |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: digital TV is 100% better than old analog |
| Strangelv | Television? |
| MutantTurkey | I use to have to spend 20 minutes playing with the bunny ears |
| MutantTurkey | just to watch "the weakest link" |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i've heard rumor that Cricket is going 4g soon, dunno if it's true, but they've got cheap yet reliable unlimited 3g :-) |
| * Strangelv seems to remember hearinsga bout this but tries to think of anything he's missing | |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: yes, provided that you have a good signal. |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: yeah i mean AT&T is super reliable. |
| MutantTurkey | just... I need 4g |
| Piki | you have to be careful where the antenna is |
| MutantTurkey | 3g is slow slow slow |
| Piki | yeah |
| Strangelv | Is Character Map one of the non-KDEBAse applets? |
| Piki | i'd suggest keeping an eye on cricket, if it is true they're going 4g, then it'll definitely be worth it |
| MutantTurkey | their service isnt as reliable unfortunately |
| Piki | what's good is they have android, and i know for fact they're getting iphone |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i have cricket, i've never had trouble with it |
| Piki | the only thing i don't like is the speed of their data service |
| Strangelv | SOme things I use heavily are Gnome versions becaues i can't find TDE/KDE versions or can't get them to work -- Gnome MUD and the alternatives configuration utility come to mind |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: I mean, I do a bit of travelling |
| MutantTurkey | rather not worry about it |
| * Strangelv wishes he could set up his Android phone for Tracfone | |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: they do have roaming, never used it myself though |
| MutantTurkey | roaming = money |
| Piki | i have no reason for travel, not even for vacation |
| Iguleder | is the GIT repository still frozen? |
| MutantTurkey | at&t has service everywhere... |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: yes until at least december |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: why? |
| Iguleder | i need to commit my stuff :) |
| Piki | Iguleder: i wouldn't exactly say frozen, i'd say it's not finished being setup |
| Iguleder | and I'd like to write bleedin' edge build scripts, like the old svn ones from Arch |
| damiano | http://89.28.122.14/website/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic |
| damiano | finally. |
| Piki | still importing svn |
| Piki | from svn* |
| MutantTurkey | no thats done |
| MutantTurkey | he is doing renaming now AFAIK |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: yeah I wrote part of those old svn ones :P |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to write git ones as well |
| MutantTurkey | nobody on arch bothers with stable, much to boring! |
| Piki | i'd bother with stable :-) |
| Piki | just so i can do my work without crashing out |
| Iguleder | I think I'll write both |
| Iguleder | so far I've got only stable ones for the base |
| * Strangelv looks at aquarius.aquarius.net and wonders if this is just a neat way to show off ones' machine or if there's something important he's missing | |
| * Strangelv has historically had difficulty doing work on stable because everything is much too out of date. He says this and yet firefox 2 is still his workhorse news browser. | |
| Strangelv | "4+ are memory hogs, 5+ have display issues, and 3 crashes too frequently |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| MutantTurkey | LOL |
| MutantTurkey | :x |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: yeah but with trinity, unless we are undergoing a LOT of changes, most of them tend to be fixes |
| Strangelv | 1.5 and 2 were notorious memory hogs and this was fixed with 3; 4+ make 2 look reasonable by comparison |
| Iguleder | I find all the renaming work funny - KWin becomes TWin, that's fine ... but Kicker remains Kicker |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: you know 8 is out? |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: Ticker? |
| Iguleder | Tonsole :p |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: all applications with the K convention can stay |
| Iguleder | yeah, but it's funny |
| MutantTurkey | only major things change |
| MutantTurkey | i guess we could change kruler to truler... |
| Strangelv | The newest ones I haev trouble getting wo work with my saved sessions. My initial attempt at getting 4 plugged me into a trunk repository that's currently 10 or so. |
| Iguleder | I get that, but Trinity will never achieve 100% branding because of that |
| Strangelv | I would very much like to get 4 running again, but every time I try it files up the lateslt installed version instead |
| Iguleder | only the "Ksomething" packages can be renamed, since the K stands for KDE |
| * Strangelv uses multiple flavors of filefox for organizational purposes. This is admittedly a problem when most of them want 2-3 GB | |
| Strangelv | Did the K in KDE originally stand for anything that anyone knows about? |
| Iguleder | probably not |
| Iguleder | but that's not the point - Kicker "kickstarts" stuff, that's why we can't rename it, for example |
| Piki | they gave different reasons for the K: it's the letter before L for Linux, it stands for Kool, it doesn't mean anything... |
| Strangelv | "I retmember reading that NBI actually _DID_ stand for something. omething completely nonsensican and embarassing, admittedly... |
| Iguleder | btw, guys - I think I've noticed some annoying problem with Kicker - it always starts at "small" size while the configuration says it's in its normal height |
| Piki | for me too |
| Piki | i don't like small |
| MutantTurkey | K stood for Kool Desktop Environment |
| MutantTurkey | dropped it at like kde1.0 though |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: report the bugg |
| MutantTurkey | but first try purgng your kickerrc |
| Iguleder | trying to hunt it |
| MutantTurkey | ~/.trinity/share/settings/kickerrc |
| MutantTurkey | i think |
| Iguleder | I just don't know where to start, since I don't know how Trinity works :) |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i doubt it's the config file, the kpersonalizer wizard doesn't seem to be setting the size correctly |
| Iguleder | e.g where it stores configuration, the contents of kdelibs, etc' |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: thats the config file... |
| MutantTurkey | oh i dunno |
| Piki | after manually going to the panel settings and setting it, it stays the right size |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: ~/.trinity/share/config/ |
| MutantTurkey | kickerrc. |
| MutantTurkey | try purging that first |
| MutantTurkey | and restarting kicker. |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: kpersonalizer is a program, not a config file :-) |
| Iguleder | yeah, but when you run it for the same time, it shows the wrong size |
| gcsimon | hi guys |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: I have no idea what you are talking about |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: sup doode |
| Iguleder | maybe Kicker has a certain default size that is different than the one in the default kickerrc |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: when you first log in to TDE and it displays the wizard, it should set the kicker size based on your settings. however, it makes the panel small, and the settings show normal |
| Iguleder | exactly |
| Piki | no matter what you set in the wizard |
| gcsimon | sorry if i interrupt a bit. but i have a little problem here with my TDE. some TDE-apps (on x86) seems to be unable to work properly with 64bit inode numbers. one of the affected programs is kate my favorite code-editor |
| Piki | after manually setting the panel size, though, it displays the correct size |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: yeah |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: no interuption :) |
| MutantTurkey | so you are running x84 apps on a 64bit system? |
| gcsimon | on x64 this never was a problem, but now on I'm on an x86 machine (yeah a downgrade ;-) ), the problem became a problem |
| Piki | so it's probably not the config file that's causing the size issue, it's probably the wizard that's setting the wrong file, and the panel config program that's correcting the config file |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: right |
| MutantTurkey | but after you fix it, does it work? |
| gcsimon | no i'm running a file server with XFS file system, which is exported via NFS. NFS exports the inode numbers of the XFS file system, which are sometimes 64bit wide. my clients are x86 machines. |
| Piki | setting the wrong setting in the file* |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: so the kioslave for nfs is messed up |
| MutantTurkey | <my guess> |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: yes, already said that: after manually setting the size, it displays the correct size |
| * Strangelv notes in reference to teh prior discussion something he's seen confusion on: Kate and KEdit may both be text editors, but they serve VERY different roles | |
| MutantTurkey | oh :P |
| * MutantTurkey sticks to good old vim ;) | |
| Iguleder | nice, maybe I found it |
| Iguleder | take a look at taskbar.h |
| * Strangelv is using the wrong kepboard layout to find vi to be fun | |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: ? |
| gcsimon | TDE is not using NFS directly, the NFS ist mounted by init (mount -t nfs server:/mnt/data /mnt/data - o rw,tcp,nolock,hard) |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: ok |
| Strangelv | IIRC, vi is designe for certian letter ckeys to be arranged in a certian way |
| MutantTurkey | well I'll just be honest and say I have no idea. I suggest reporting the bug. |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: by default, but vim is also designed to be extremely versatile and 100 mappable. |
| MutantTurkey | 100%' |
| Iguleder | I think it's Kicker |
| Iguleder | do you have any idea where its default configuration is defined? |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: I though Piki established it is the kpersonalizer |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| Iguleder | Kicker starts with the wrong size |
| MutantTurkey | because of the wizard though |
| MutantTurkey | right...? |
| Iguleder | I don't think so |
| MutantTurkey | >_> |
| Iguleder | you don't run the wizard before Kicker ... :) |
| Piki | on a fresh tde install, you do |
| Iguleder | try to start a clean Trinity under Arch without ~/.trinity or any customized defaults package, like Kubuntu's |
| gcsimon | other question: can someone give me a crash-curse into using cmake (or a good weblink), and building TDE on my box? i would like to start fixing some issues myself, insead of opening bug reports. |
| Piki | it'll run on your first login to tde |
| gcsimon | instead* |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: not running arch right now |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: yeah can you PM me? |
| MutantTurkey | I can walk you through |
| Piki | then kicker loads after the wizard completes |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| Iguleder | Piki: the first-run wizard, not KPersonalizer |
| MutantTurkey | first run wizard sorry |
| Iguleder | and the problem is in the latter as far as I know |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: I can run you throuhg it |
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| Piki | kpersonalizer is the first run wizard |
| Piki | it runs automatically on first login, and can be run after |
| Iguleder | so maybe I got confused with the appearance settings thingy |
| Iguleder | the dialog you see when you open Kicker's options dialog |
| Piki | Iguleder: the kicker config file is in ~/.trinity/share/config/kickerrc |
| Piki | that's not kpersonalizer |
| Piki | that's a module from kcontrol |
| Iguleder | let's go back to the start - the problem is that Kicker starts with the "small" size, while actually, it's "normal" |
| Piki | yes |
| Iguleder | the options dialog reports the latter |
| Piki | right |
| Iguleder | until you change something, which makes Kicker write down kickerrc |
| Iguleder | and if you just press "OK", it makes Kicker realize it's small |
| Piki | right |
| Iguleder | now ... we need to find out where the default size is defined |
| Piki | i'm pretty sure that the wrong size issue in kicker is being set by the first run wizard (e.g. kpersonalizer), which writes an initial kickerrc, but when you go to change it as you're describing, the dialog rewrites the kickerrc file correctly |
| MutantTurkey | I think Piki is right |
| MutantTurkey | (for once :P) |
| MutantTurkey | just kidding xD |
| Iguleder | ummm... I don't have a Trinity package so I can't check this theory |
| MutantTurkey | Iguleder: ... |
| Iguleder | building a fresh one atm ... lol |
| MutantTurkey | well until then... |
| Piki | Iguleder: so... are you on tde now? |
| Iguleder | maybe you're right and there's a kickerrc |
| Iguleder | nope, building a fresh one right now |
| Piki | on my system, there is a kickerrc, which shows the settings that i'm currently using. |
| Iguleder | I remember the first time I started Trinity, I hoped I'm going to see KDE 3.x's 48px panel with all its joyful icons ... but it was thin instead :( |
| Piki | a lot of the settings inital config files are being written by kpersonalizer, which is the first run wizard, if kpersonalizer writes them wrong, that'll cause issues |
| * Strangelv checkns his. He believes he has it set to 144 | |
| Strangelv | "yup |
| Iguleder | I'm off, be back later |
| Iguleder | I'll try to locate the defaults and check whether there is a default kickerrc after all :) |
| Piki | i never really thought there would be a default config file, i thought TDE/KDE3 apps "generated" a default on their first run |
| Piki | might be wrong |
| Piki | there's a /opt/trinity/share/apps/kconf_update/kickerrc.upd |
| MutantTurkey | either way |
| MutantTurkey | If you can choose in the wizard... and the wizard isnt setting it |
| MutantTurkey | thats the problem |
| MutantTurkey | blech 48pix of wasted crap |
| MutantTurkey | imho :P |
| MutantTurkey | I never saw the point of a larger panel |
| MutantTurkey | it doesnt provide anything more |
| MutantTurkey | dunno |
| MutantTurkey | especially on a laptop |
| Piki | easier to see, plus more room for my quicklaunch applet |
| Piki | :-) |
| Piki | two rows instead of one |
| Strangelv | Two rows or more rows |
| Strangelv | "both with the big icons like the start button as well as with the applications panel |
| Piki | my laptop screen is more than big enough for "normal" instead of "small" :-) |
| Strangelv | I would probably make mine wader than 144px to take full advantage of that |
| Strangelv | wider, too. I have a 16:9 display, so horizontal space from the lef edge is cheap |
| Strangelv | ...although I was basicalyl doing the same thing with 1280x1024, where horizontal space is almost the same cost as vertical |
| MutantTurkey | I use tiny :P |
| MutantTurkey | I dont ever use start applications or menus :P |
| MutantTurkey | I just use the run command dialog xD |
| Strangelv | I must admit I never use the run dialogue. When i run it by typing it in I use konsole |
| Strangelv | ie ksnapshot& |
| Piki | i use my quicklaunch so i don't have to type in the run dialog |
| Piki | my konsole i use for typing stuff :-) |
| MutantTurkey | that too |
| Strangelv | Can we get KSnapshor ot TSnapshot to fire up when printScreen or SystemRequest is pressed? |
| Piki | the only time i use the run dialog is when i don't already have a spare konsole |
| Strangelv | "Although i must admit that could become an annoyance. You might be abel to guess precisely how many times I've _intentionally_ fired up the helps ystem in KDE by pressing F1 |
| Strangelv | "The & at the end of the command will put pyou back at a prompt, You just won't be able to close the program with ^C |
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| l0ner | hello |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: you there? |
| MutantTurkey | yessir |
| MutantTurkey | always here for you! |
| MutantTurkey | SIR YES SIR. |
| MutantTurkey | reporting for duty. |
| MutantTurkey | etc etc etc |
| l0ner | i need help |
| MutantTurkey | me too :/ |
| Piki | yes sir ma'am! |
| MutantTurkey | but what do you need help with? |
| l0ner | i used pkgbuild you uploaded to git |
| MutantTurkey | sir yes sir ma'am sir! |
| l0ner | compiling |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: righ |
| MutantTurkey | right' |
| l0ner | and I cannot compile tde-libs |
| MutantTurkey | D: |
| MutantTurkey | error message? |
| MutantTurkey | (actually receiving quite a lot of flak about it |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/509933/ |
| l0ner | I installed only qt3, tqtinterface, pyqt3 and arts till now |
| l0ner | and I'm doing it on a clean arch vm |
| l0ner | It's the same error I got when I was cmpiling manually from tarballs |
| l0ner | and I't makes me wonder, is it something in the source code broken, or I am missing something? |
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| MutantTurkey | !last samelian |
| tbottu | MutantTurkey: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message) |
| MutantTurkey | !last samelian, #trinity-desktop |
| tbottu | MutantTurkey: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message) |
| MutantTurkey | :X |
| MutantTurkey | !seen samelian |
| tbottu | MutantTurkey: samelian was last seen in #trinity-desktop 1 day, 22 hours, 58 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <samelian> I have freetype with bytecode interpreter support and I disabled antialiasing :) |
| l0ner | why, oh why!?!?! |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: everyone is getting that error |
| MutantTurkey | I will need to deal wit hit soon :P |
| MutantTurkey | right now I am busy >_> |
| l0ner | argh |
| MutantTurkey | if you get a patch working can you forward it to me? |
| MutantTurkey | sorry :[[ |
| MutantTurkey | I do feel bad! |
| l0ner | well, i could look into the code and try to fix it |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | are you using parallel builds? |
| l0ner | but I can't promise anything, since my programming skills suck |
| MutantTurkey | me too ._. |
| l0ner | oh, and is there any way to get a minimal istall ubuntu? base system without anything. |
| l0ner | I know there was something like Ubuntu JeOS but i think it's dead... |
| Piki | if it's not in their installer, apt-get remove everything you don't need, make sure to add the --purge option to get rid of unneeded config files |
| gcsimon | IOner: ubuntu has a minimal install option on the isolinux boot menu (press F4 i think) |
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| Piki | then complain to the ubuntu devs that they need a minimal install option |
| MutantTurkey | or just stop using ubuntu |
| l0ner | well, in may case it would be apt-get remove all |
| MutantTurkey | because it sucks. |
| MutantTurkey | end of discussion |
| l0ner | I don't use it |
| MutantTurkey | apt-get remove ubuntu |
| l0ner | but i need it to verify the error i get |
| MutantTurkey | apt-get install {archlinux, debian} |
| * gcsimon (or was it F6 ....) | |
| l0ner | hmm... debian might be the solution |
| Piki | apt-get remove ubuntu --purge :-) |
| MutantTurkey | debian is always the solution |
| * l0ner is searching for debian iso on his hdd | |
| Piki | yeah, debian much better than ubuntu, and since ubuntu stems from debian, the basic tools are the same |
| MutantTurkey | meh |
| MutantTurkey | ubuntu still sucks. |
| MutantTurkey | kickoff patches in!:) |
| l0ner | what fixes? |
| MutantTurkey | well it now doesnt immediately crash... |
| Piki | yeah, always laggy on my machine, and some stuff in ubuntu have bad defaults that cause crashes |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| MutantTurkey | and it uses the typical button instead of the terrible one from before |
| Piki | i can get it working well if i put forth some effort fixing stuff, but i'm too lazy :-) |
| gcsimon | to be honest, i installed ubuntu only to be able to use TDE. i thought ubuntu was so cool, and good, because everyone is using it :P |
| l0ner | i used ubuntu at the times of 7.10 |
| l0ner | i hooked me again on linux |
| l0ner | but then it began to suck |
| l0ner | and i move do gentoo |
| Piki | nah, canonical has a lot of marketing power, that's why ubuntu's so popular |
| saleem | l0ner, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD |
| l0ner | whoah, thx! |
| Piki | debian can do a minimal install too |
| l0ner | taht i know |
| l0ner | *that |
| Piki | actually, doing a minimal install of debian then installing tde works better than a normal debian install then switching to tde |
| l0ner | i can imagine |
| Piki | just takes longer because then it has to download Xorg in addition to just TDE |
| l0ner | nut that is not a issue for me |
| l0ner | *but |
| Piki | yeah i know |
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| Piki | MutantTurkey: you were looking for someone? :-) |
| Piki | hi samelian |
| samelian | hello Piki |
| Piki | samelian: l0ner's trying to compile tdelibs, think you can try to figure out his error? |
| Piki | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/509933/ |
| samelian | hang on |
| samelian | Piki: I think in kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp is not included tqlabel.h |
| Piki | samelian: it's not me, it's l0ner :-) |
| samelian | aha |
| Piki | haven't started my packaging yet :-) |
| saleem | im also facing the same issue http://pastebin.com/DjaYmW8k |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/2882365 |
| l0ner | main problem is: there is no kshourtcutdialog_simple.cpp |
| samelian | saleem: try to include tqlabel.h into kshourtcutdialog_simple.cpp |
| l0ner | it's a .ui file |
| l0ner | which I don't know how to handel |
| l0ner | *handle |
| samelian | ah, it's generated? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | and .ui file is xmlish |
| l0ner | i hate xml |
| l0ner | i'm looking at it right now |
| samelian | l0ner: please paste somewhere content of kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/509961 |
| saleem | samelian, where is this file located? |
| MutantTurkey | everyone is running into this bug but me :| |
| samelian | sa |
| samelian | saleem: find . -name kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp |
| samelian | in build directory |
| saleem | ok samelian |
| l0ner | dman, i was always grepping find -_- |
| samelian | l0ner: seems that your script use uic |
| Piki | i wish i were a dman :-P |
| l0ner | and it should use? |
| * l0ner whishes he was a programmer | |
| l0ner | I'm looking at kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp |
| l0ner | and I see that TQLabel is added to QGridLayout |
| l0ner | in line where make shows me errors |
| samelian | i'm not sure why your script use plain uic, instead the one provided by cmake |
| samelian | run make VERBOSE=1 |
| l0ner | kaaay! |
| samelian | and paste the entire build log |
| samelian | l0ner: also check if you have tqt-replace somewhere on your PATH |
| l0ner | wat is tqt-replace? |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/2885456 |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 508 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=508 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Kickoff menu unstable |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/509967 |
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| samelian | l0ner: tqt-replace is a shell script provided by tqtinterface |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/509973 |
| samelian | l0ner: you use sudo for building or something else which can alter the PATH? |
| l0ner | nope |
| l0ner | i have only root user on my vms |
| samelian | ok, remove kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp from build tree |
| l0ner | ok |
| samelian | make again |
| samelian | and show me the log |
| l0ner | ok |
| samelian | kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp is incorectly generated |
| saleem | i will read and try to follow till there is an apparent fix |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/509976 |
| samelian | l0ner: try this |
| samelian | tqt_replace kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp |
| samelian | and make again |
| l0ner | uh, removing the generated files moves compiling forward |
| l0ner | http://tiniurl.com/3ahukee |
| l0ner | http://tinyurl.com/3ahukee |
| l0ner | no wait |
| l0ner | wtf is dat? |
| samelian | dat? |
| Piki | l0ner: you want us to buy tee shirts? O.o |
| l0ner | nope |
| l0ner | it a link wgetpaste threw at me |
| l0ner | when i tried to send my build log |
| Piki | tinyurl is a url shortener, common in irc to prevent flooding |
| l0ner | i know, |
| Piki | though sometimes they're used to spam by hiding where people really want to send you |
| l0ner | and wgetpaste has ability to automatically shorten long urls |
| Piki | never heard of wgetpaste |
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| Piki | i've only heard of wget |
| l0ner | it's a small cli app for pasting text into services like pastebin or paste.pocoo.org |
| l0ner | by defaults it sends to paste.pocoo.org |
| l0ner | its based on wget, so it has it in the name |
| Iguleder | back |
| l0ner | http://codepad.org/iAVEHUhq |
| Piki | maybe there's a glitch and it retrieved the wrong tinyurl? |
| l0ner | maybe |
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| l0ner | anyway link i send now should be the correct one |
| samelian | l0ner: in your log I do not see how kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp is generated |
| samelian | remove kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp and try again |
| samelian | ah |
| samelian | you run tqt_replace against kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp? |
| l0ner | funninest thing is that this is log past kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp and kshortcutdialog_advanced.cpp compilation |
| l0ner | i did not |
| samelian | try |
| l0ner | i removed generated files like You suggested, recompiled |
| samelian | good, now try to run tqt_replace kshortcutdialog_simple.cpp |
| l0ner | and it compiled correctely and went past |
| l0ner | kay |
| l0ner | i ran tqt-replace on kdeui/kshortcutdialog_{simple,advanced}.cpp |
| samelian | and? |
| l0ner | http://codepad.org/0uHwvB5J |
| l0ner | this |
| Iguleder | samelian: maybe you're the right person for this - do you have any idea where Kicker's defaults are defined? |
| samelian | Iguleder: nope, I'm not familiar with this |
| samelian | I think somewhere in KDEPATH/share |
| Iguleder | is there any comfortable way to debug just Kicker? |
| samelian | no ideea, ask Calvin Morrison (MutantTurkey), I think he have some experience with this |
| Iguleder | he has no idea either - Kicker is quite an old piece of TDE :) |
| samelian | l0ner: show me your tde_uic.cmake, is located in cmake/modules |
| l0ner | http://codepad.org/RtbmAWrE |
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| samelian | l0ner: you have kshortcutdialog_simple.ui in build dir? |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | in kdeui/kshortcutdialog_simple.up |
| l0ner | *ui |
| samelian | l0ner: I mean, in build dir, not source dir |
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| l0ner | and what should be my build dir? |
| l0ner | i'm building from /tmp/tdelibs |
| samelian | the build dir is the place where you run make |
| l0ner | so /tmp/tdelibs |
| samelian | yes |
| l0ner | and In this dir I have bunch of *.cmake files |
| l0ner | and dir structure similiar to those of source |
| samelian | yes, ignore it |
| l0ner | and dir called CMakeFiles |
| samelian | just run find /tmp/tdelibs -name kshortcutdialog_simple.ui |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/509994 |
| samelian | l0ner: show me kshortcutdialog_simple.ui |
| samelian | and kshortcutdialog_simple.ui.h |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/509995 |
| l0ner | but ui.h i don't see |
| l0ner | you mean kshortcutdailog_simple.h ? |
| samelian | ahm |
| samelian | yes |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/509996 |
| samelian | l0ner: you run tqt-replace against kshortcutdialog_simple.ui? |
| l0ner | right now |
| l0ner | trying to compile |
| samelian | no, seems that kshortcutdialog_simple.ui has correctly processed |
| l0ner | yep, i think the same |
| samelian | remove kshortcutdialog_simple.* |
| samelian | run make, and show me kshortcutdialog_simple.ui |
| l0ner | wait, I did make clean |
| l0ner | and now I'm compiling |
| samelian | i'm not sure that make clean will remove all objects |
| l0ner | now I'm getting errors on something else |
| l0ner | we'll see |
| samelian | remove kshortcutdialog_simple.* manually |
| l0ner | i remove them form kdeui? |
| l0ner | dir |
| samelian | from build dir, not source |
| l0ner | did it |
| samelian | ok, now run make |
| samelian | and show me kshortcutdialog_simple.ui |
| l0ner | I'm still running it |
| l0ner | wait, it may take a while |
| samelian | ping me when is ready |
| l0ner | kay |
| l0ner | shouldn't Stop Piracy Act be called Internet Censorship Act? |
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| l0ner | samelian: after removing .cpp files generated form .ui for simple and advanced kshortcutdialog and running make clean && make VERBOSE=1 compilation stops because i have no space on my /tmp device... |
| l0ner | but othervise runs fine |
| samelian | haha |
| l0ner | i was posting error messages, then notices that make is complaining about space :O |
| l0ner | :P |
| l0ner | I'm going to give my vm some more ram and try again |
| l0ner | there was a nic app which displayed space every dir was taking from any disk for trinity |
| l0ner | what it was called? |
| l0ner | since i need it right now |
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| samelian | l0ner: du |
| l0ner | samelian: not quite what i had in mind, shince app I'm talking about had nice gui and dispalyed each level of dirs as circles, but this will do |
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| l0ner | damn, i should be projecting new layout for trinity site, rather than trying to compile it on virtualmachine |
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| l0ner | god I HATE grub 2 and it's fucked un .cfg file which gets totally ignored |
| l0ner | samalian: brand new errors!! http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/510014/ |
| l0ner | uh, it's complaining about arts mcop? |
| samelian | l0ner: yes, you should set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to arts library path |
| samelian | ah, no |
| l0ner | well, I have this set how it was on wiki |
| samelian | check if arts library is in LD_LIBRARY_PATH either |
| l0ner | damn I set it wrong |
| l0ner | typed L instead of : |
| l0ner | ok, it seems that it will compile correctly this time |
| l0ner | so if I remove kdeui/kshortcutdialog_{simple,advanced}.cpp from the build dir I can compile whole thing |
| l0ner | those two files aren't generated correctely from .ui files |
| l0ner | and until they aren't generated correctely i can't autobuild package for arch using PKGBUILD, since I cannot remove them on build stage |
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| l0ner | samelian: it compiled |
| samelian | l0ner: ok |
| l0ner | but whay are those .cpp files generated wrongly? |
| samelian | so, you need to run make twice? |
| l0ner | yep |
| samelian | hmm, strange |
| l0ner | make, remove .cpp files, and re-run make |
| samelian | first time is not generated corectly, second time is generated corectly |
| l0ner | wait |
| samelian | this is strange behavior |
| l0ner | i did not remove them this time |
| l0ner | i just run cmake, make and it comiled |
| l0ner | apart form ld_path error |
| l0ner | I'l try to rm whole thing and rebuild |
| samelian | so, it's ok? |
| samelian | aha, ok |
| l0ner | it seems so, but i need to make sure |
| l0ner | since it's strange |
| l0ner | that error corrected itself |
| l0ner | without reason |
| l0ner | yep it's compiling no problem |
| l0ner | yet, if I compile it using PKGBUILD i get error |
| samelian | so, manually it's fine |
| samelian | using PKGBUILD is not |
| l0ner | seems so |
| samelian | in this case, check if PKGBUILD set correct PATH to tqt-replace |
| samelian | also, check for LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| l0ner | PKGBUILD was setting PATH for qt3 but ton for tqt |
| l0ner | *not |
| samelian | so, case closed? |
| l0ner | not really |
| l0ner | I added line that exports PATH to the PKGBUILD |
| l0ner | yet same error occured |
| l0ner | but now I know where I should look |
| l0ner | ok, now it compiles |
| l0ner | I forgot to remove incorrec files |
| l0ner | case closed, now I need to learn how to make patch and send it to MT |
| samelian | good :) |
| l0ner | argh!! |
| l0ner | i spoke too soon! |
| samelian | diff -u -r original_directory modified_directory |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | and btw: what tqt-replace does? replaces old and broken qt functions with those provided by tqt? |
| samelian | nope |
| samelian | translate tqtinterface ui files to original qt ui files |
| samelian | because uic cannot generated correct tqt ui files |
| l0ner | ok |
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| l0ner | cya guys! |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 624 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=624 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Can't Login with KDM |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 637 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=637 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Patches required to build qt3 on Slackware |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 621 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=621 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdelibs: Fix 'KDE Control Module' Branding |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 620 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=620 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdebase: Fix 'KDE Control Module' Branding |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 619 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=619 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Update networkconf backend support for Slackware |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 617 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=617 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Trinity KDM default welcome message |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 616 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=616 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, KPatience card set branding issue |
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| LukeL | kudos |
| LukeL | tde rocks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 639 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=639 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, missing icon file for qtconfig-qt3 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 640 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=640 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, .kthemestylerc.lock is created in $KDEDIR/share/config |
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| TokRa | Some related news: http://liberatum.ru/exclusive/kde-3-protiv-kde-4 (in russian) and http://www.datamation.com/open-source/kde-vs.-trinity-is-one-really-better-1.html (in english) |
| Iguleder | TDE! :) |
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| ardian | Hi, I am having trouble connecting to the network, there's no network manager I am using a laptop how do I connect ? |
| Iguleder | ifconfig, wpa_supplicant, iwconfig, iwlist :) |
| ardian | Iguleder, GUI ? |
| Iguleder | wicd, NetworkManager, TDE's tools? |
| ardian | Iguleder, It wasn't installed by default ? do I have to install it |
| ardian | I was looking for a network manager |
| ardian | There wasn't one neither a systemtryicon |
| Iguleder | if you don't have it and want to use it, install it |
| Iguleder | get knetworkmanager or wlassistant |
| ardian | ok |
| ardian | thanks |
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| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkwy |
| tbottu | l0ner: I have not seen MutantTurkwy. |
| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 14 hours, 18 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> everyone is running into this bug but me :| |
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| Iguleder | guys, does kdelibs fail to build for you? |
| Iguleder | I get the traditional QLabel error |
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| Iguleder | saleem: have you solved that build issue? |
| saleem | hello Iguleder , no , it still does not build for me, kdelibs fail to build |
| saleem | http://pastebin.com/DjaYmW8k |
| Iguleder | I get the same issue |
| Iguleder | but for some reason it passes the 11% mark randomly |
| saleem | its a prevailing issue and hope it will get fixed |
| Iguleder | try to build with one job |
| Iguleder | works for me sometimes |
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| saleem | all other packages got build normally except trinity-kdelibs 3513-1 |
| Iguleder | oh crap, it dies at 195% :( |
| Iguleder | *19% |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 641 filed by lindani@hotmail.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=641 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, quanta-trinity does not start while running kde4 |
| saleem | Iguleder, i guess i will wait till there is some fix for it than trying repeatetdly |
| Iguleder | it's kinda funny - I was able to build Trinity last week |
| Iguleder | I think it has something to do with the Qt/Trinity prefix |
| saleem | hello samelian |
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| Iguleder | guys, does kdelibs depend on libutempter? I found out it won't build without it. |
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| damiano | heya fellas. |
| Iguleder | o/ damiano |
| Iguleder | ummm ... kdelibs still doesn't build - for some reason kpty built just fine, but only once |
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| damiano | now... testing xchat sounds.. |
| damiano | could anyone write me a personal message? |
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| Iguleder | yay, got kdebase to build, finally :D |
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| MutantTurkey | hey |
| Iguleder | o/ MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | supppe |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I've got your patches |
| Iguleder | wow, Trinity in 71 MB :D |
| damiano | hm... weird... one i created a launcher on a desktop for winapp, and i used an icon for it from the web.. it was normal, but now it has white background (not transparent). Why? |
| damiano | not on TDE though... gnome |
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| MutantTurkey | wow |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: probably because of the image type |
| MutantTurkey | white and transparent are two different things |
| MutantTurkey | why are you still using gnome silly goose! |
| damiano | no.. that's the thing, i used THE SAME icon for it |
| damiano | MutantTurkey, sorry to tell ya, but it seems to be bit better so far than TDE. TDE .12 was ok, but .13 is glitchy. Sorry. |
| damiano | i only bring probs installing it. |
| damiano | then i can't get rid of it. If i at least made an image of my current configuration then i'd give it a shot. |
| damiano | but i haven't, and i dunno how to do it. |
| damiano | .13 has nice buttons though :) |
| damiano | but that's about it. |
| damiano | it brings KLauncher issue most of the time. |
| damiano | like "cannot call KLauncher" or something, and i can't do anything, it gets stuck like this |
| Strangelv | "Are any of the bugs you've run into unreported in our bug tracker? |
| * Strangelv still hasn't upgraded from 12 and is unlikely to have a productive day today | |
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| MutantTurkey | damiano: whats glitching? |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| damiano | MutantTurkey, KLauncher. |
| MutantTurkey | dang |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: well this release brought a ton of underlying changres |
| damiano | yeah, i understand. |
| MutantTurkey | R14 is going to be ONLY bugfix. |
| damiano | but hey.. i'm still here, so i'm looking forward to any improvement, no worries :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 642 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=642 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Focus prevention option |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 643 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=643 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Changing Desktop Icon Activation Effect Requires Restarting TDE |
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| rzs19 | good evening :) |
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| _Pete_ | evening here too, and good also! same there |
| _Pete_ | btw |
| _Pete_ | I like very much TDE |
| Iguleder | ummm ... got a base Trinity in 60 MB :) |
| _Pete_ | as much that I would like to help in development |
| _Pete_ | problem is even I am pro dev |
| _Pete_ | haven't done much c++ nor gt |
| _Pete_ | so what would you suggest to ramp up ? |
| _Pete_ | my background is C / Java |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 644 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=644 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KControl: Error messages when browsing Display and ICC as non root |
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| saleem | hello everybody |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 645 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=645 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, reading '.kompmgr.pid' as kompmgr pidfile |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 646 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=646 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Could not load library! Trying exec.... |
| saleem | hello MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | hello saleem |
| MutantTurkey | I think there was a patch created? |
| saleem | i dont know MutantTurkey , last night i was reading till i fell asleep on chair but till that time did not see anything about any patch |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 647 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=647 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Odd Dcop messages in xsession log when starting TDE |
| MutantTurkey | saleem: what broke, kdelibs for you? |
| saleem | yes it breaks |
| saleem | and so kde-base wont install |
| MutantTurkey | ok I have a fix |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to upload it asap |
| MutantTurkey | (probably in 10 minutes) |
| saleem | thanks im here |
| MutantTurkey | Nevermind :| |
| MutantTurkey | wait... |
| MutantTurkey | is getting confused here:P |
| MutantTurkey | yes this should fix it |
| MutantTurkey | if L0ner was correct |
| MutantTurkey | " |
| MutantTurkey | have discovered together with samelian error in tdelibs PKGBUILD. |
| MutantTurkey | Error everyone (including me) was was getting (including) me while |
| MutantTurkey | bulding on clean arch installation was coming from trinity bin dir |
| MutantTurkey | missing from PATH. |
| MutantTurkey | http://pastebin.com/ssKkNZ1g < read |
| saleem | let me check it |
| MutantTurkey | i am going to push to git in a second |
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| saleem | yes that would be helpful |
| saleem | he mentioned some patch as an attachement |
| MutantTurkey | pushed it to the git |
| MutantTurkey | then I will push to the AUR |
| MutantTurkey | does albator have a IRC nick? |
| saleem | i dont know MutantTurkey |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 648 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=648 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Cannot connect socket '/var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0/socket' |
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| MutantTurkey | saleem: did you see the patch? |
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| saleem | MutantTurkey, sorry i dozed off again , whats the name of the patch? |
| MutantTurkey | >_> |
| MutantTurkey | just look at the pkgbuild |
| MutantTurkey | there is no patch |
| MutantTurkey | it was a missing path |
| MutantTurkey | the caused MOC to fail |
| MutantTurkey | or something |
| saleem | i saw kdelibs and kdebase packages added to aur freshly so im trying to compile kdelibs once again from thoase |
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| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | that should be it |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | saleem: I maintain those packages :) |
| saleem | yes i know MutantTurkey |
| saleem | but the kdelibs fail to build once again :( |
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| MutantTurkey | sup TokRa |
| TokRa | MutantTurkey: hoy ! |
| rzs19 | why is there no kdetv-trinity pakage? |
| MutantTurkey | TokRa: what's up? |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: for what system/ |
| Xu_R | ah, people on the openSUSE-Factory mailing list hate NM 0.9 :P |
| samelian | Xu_R: why they hate it? |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: that is irrevant because thats that. |
| MutantTurkey | its not their product |
| MutantTurkey | they cant do anything about it |
| MutantTurkey | so either go with it or stop using NM |
| samelian | exactly |
| MutantTurkey | there are other wireless controllers out there |
| MutantTurkey | like wicd :) |
| MutantTurkey | or good old dhcpcd |
| samelian | is a dbus specification, follow it and everthing will be just fine |
| samelian | I will create an abstract layer over NM dbus either |
| samelian | I'm pretty sure that our network manager frontend will be the best on the market :) |
| samelian | at least, this is my plan |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: good luck :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 649 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=649 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, trinity-keyring wrongly overwrites customised files in /etc |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: Debian Squeeze AMD64 |
| rzs19 | is there any documentation for trinity python bindings? |
| rzs19 | is it the same like pykde from http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pykde/index.php ? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 650 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=650 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kompare: add a method to merge/transfer only one line within a chunk |
| rzs19 | like this: http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pykde/download3 - should be the correct link |
| LukeL | there a network applet for tde? |
| LukeL | network usage graph etc |
| Xu_R | samelian: the changes they made, most users claim are pointless/hindering their ability to connect to corporate networks |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: that's why NM is optional for most people ;) |
| samelian | Xu_R: i'm pretty sure that is not NM fault, but NM frontend implementations |
| Xu_R | samelian: nope, this was a backend change |
| Xu_R | screwed all the frontends |
| samelian | that's another story, i think changing versions to 0.9 is not just a caprice :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 651 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=651 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, In Trinity konqueror 4 crashes at startup |
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| damiano | heya fellas. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 652 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=652 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdelibs:FTBFS in a symlink directory: CMake Error Cannot find source file |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 653 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=653 enhancement, P3, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Reduce T-Menu Clutter and Duplication |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 654 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=654 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdelibs: cmake fails to detect crypt, alloca and dlerror |
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| dexterkidd | Helllo |
| dexterkidd | is there any tde developer here/ |
| dexterkidd | ? |
| dexterkidd | Cause I think kgtk-qt3-trinity gtk-qt-engine-trinity should not be in TDE |
| dexterkidd | they bugs |
| dexterkidd | crash my gimp,xchat,every gtk apps |
| dexterkidd | and kdm-trinity also buged, the screen went crazy after reboot |
| dexterkidd | I use kdm from kde4 instead |
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| saleem | hi |
| saleem | would kdm be /opt/trinity/bin/kdm or /opt/kde3/bin ? |
| dexterkidd | saleem; /opt/trinity/bin/kdm |
| dexterkidd | saleem: but I just talked, kdm-trinity buggy |
| dexterkidd | saleem: kdm from kde4 more stable |
| dexterkidd | saleem: on my mac book, kdm-trinity crashed the screen |
| saleem | dexterkidd, i have installed the stable arch packages |
| dexterkidd | saleem: Me,too |
| saleem | and i see kdm located in /opt/kde3/bin/kdm |
| dexterkidd | saleem: I did not have /opt/kde3 dir |
| dexterkidd | saleem: you installed the original kde3? |
| saleem | im using gdm to login to kde3 because setting kdm is kind of tricky |
| saleem | no i installed from here |
| dexterkidd | saleem: wired |
| saleem | http://vgafib.upc.es/kdemod3/i686/ |
| saleem | would it be more appropriate using kde4 kdm to boot kde3 than gdm? |
| dexterkidd | saleem: you can try ,I am using kdm from kde4 |
| saleem | seems more practical because i dont get reboot shutdown options |
| saleem | i have to logout and then reboot from gdm and same for shut down |
| saleem | kind of more lengthy way |
| dexterkidd | saleem: if login from kdm whatever kde3 or kde4's , kde3 will show shutdown ,and else |
| dexterkidd | saleem: login from gdm,will only have LOGOUT option |
| saleem | it does not, i only have logout option |
| dexterkidd | .... |
| saleem | from gdm |
| dexterkidd | saleem: yes,from gdm,you only have logout in kde3 |
| dexterkidd | saleem: try kdm |
| saleem | dexterkidd, yes im now trying to pull in kdm from kde4 will then purge gdm |
| saleem | kdemod3 packages are more stable than AUR trinity packages , tried for past many days to get those aur packages but built always fails |
| saleem | there is no single kdm package amd kdebase-workspace pulls in lots of kde4 packages |
| saleem | .....what to do |
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| _Pete_ | hmm there's some serious problems in ubuntu trinity |
| dexterkidd | en.. |
| _Pete_ | when doing apt-get update / upgrade |
| dexterkidd | But I think trinity should not control too much |
| dexterkidd | especially ,let gtk2 do gtk2 things |
| _Pete_ | http://pastebin.com/QCH95iiF |
| _Pete_ | this happens |
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| saleem | dexterkidd, |
| dexterkidd | saleem: I am not using arch, I am using ubuntu/debian |
| saleem | i got kde3 kdm set , not needing gdm or kde4 kdm anymore to login to kde3 |
| dexterkidd | saleem: good for u |
| saleem | yes im not pouring in unwanted kde4 and gnome packages anymore |
| jumpship | _Pete_: It looks to me like your using the nightly repo, that's prob not a good idea at the moment as they are in the middle of renaming many pkgs |
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| _Pete_ | ah yes I am |
| rzs19 | doog "morning"(okay its 13:38 but who carres?) |
| rzs19 | good* |
| _Pete_ | jumpship: what should I do to prevent any disasters? |
| jumpship | The code is frozen since .13 anyway, just use the .13 repo |
| _Pete_ | ok thanks |
| l0ner | damn |
| l0ner | I installed TDE on my vm |
| l0ner | and I can't start kdm ;/ |
| rzs19 | l0ner: which virtualisation solution and what distribution? |
| l0ner | virtualbox |
| l0ner | arch |
| rzs19 | what says "/var/log/kdm.log " ? |
| l0ner | in kdm.log i see taht It cannot find libqt-mt.so.3 |
| rzs19 | make a "pacman -Qo libqt-mt.so.3" |
| l0ner | yet libqt-mt.so.3 is present in my system under /opt/qt/lib/ |
| l0ner | pacman fails |
| l0ner | qt/lib should be in PATH? |
| rzs19 | wait need soem time to rembmer :) |
| l0ner | k |
| rzs19 | you could create a file with includes the path under: "/etc/ld.so.conf.d/" |
| rzs19 | cat /etc/ld.so.conf.d/trinitylibs.conf |
| rzs19 | /opt/trinity/lib/ |
| rzs19 | /opt/trinity/lib64/ |
| rzs19 | /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/ |
| rzs19 | /opt/trinity/lib64/trinity/ |
| rzs19 | a damn, i should switch from konversation to kopete, i hope the whole message popsup? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | knoversation in nice tho |
| l0ner | *is |
| rzs19 | this was just a sample how it could look, but try to include the path for qt3 |
| rzs19 | maybe its helps and its a vm, what have you to lose? :) |
| l0ner | nothing |
| l0ner | Whole point is try to get working TDE on vm, before trying to set it up on physical machine |
| rzs19 | yep :) |
| rzs19 | i use linux containers for testing, its not so heavy like vbox, or qemu |
| rzs19 | and its in the vanilla kernel |
| rzs19 | atm, my whole desktops runs in a lxc connected with xdmcp :D |
| l0ner | nice |
| rzs19 | with full opengl support :) |
| l0ner | nicer :) |
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| rzs19 | anything works, but i can not get bluetooth working inside lxc... |
| l0ner | ok, I added /opt/qt/lib line to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/trinitylibs.conf |
| l0ner | but nothing have changed |
| rzs19 | oh and don't forget to run ldconfig after you changed the path |
| l0ner | I was forgetting this :D |
| l0ner | IT WORKS!!! |
| rzs19 | nice, i like it, when things works :D |
| * l0ner is gong to grab something to eat | |
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| rzs19 | hello vhumpa |
| vhumpa | cheers |
| rzs19 | is there a way to run dbus over network? |
| l0ner | rzs19: do you know how to turn off screen clear on system start in arch? |
| rzs19 | l0ner: screen clear? |
| l0ner | no login, where everything is wiped out and you get login prompt |
| l0ner | there was soe arch wiki, but i can't remember where it waslution for it in th |
| l0ner | nor i have the time/will to search for it |
| rzs19 | you mean you have no login prompt on tty1? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | i have login prompt on tty1, but the startup log is cleared out, I want it to remain |
| rzs19 | okay |
| rzs19 | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_Clearing_of_Boot_Messages maybe this? |
| l0ner | yep, thx :) |
| rzs19 | l0ner: and how is the trinity support on arch? |
| l0ner | dunno yet, I'm trying to set kdm to start on boot |
| l0ner | but it don't shows up in the rc.d list |
| rzs19 | maybe a symlink is missing? |
| l0ner | or whole startup script |
| rzs19 | or that |
| rzs19 | atm i don't have any archlinux running here, just debian |
| l0ner | I think MutantTurkey is runninc trinity on arch |
| l0ner | atm |
| l0ner | and I'm struggling |
| l0ner | to run it |
| rzs19 | maybe the pakages are based on the old modkde3 pakages? |
| rzs19 | or kd3mod? |
| l0ner | i think PKGBUILDs are |
| rzs19 | arch is changing fast... |
| l0ner | that is true |
| l0ner | but what is linux isn't atm? |
| rzs19 | i whish the driver support for freebsd was better... |
| rzs19 | and i cant wait to try trinity on arm :) |
| l0ner | newer used bsd |
| rzs19 | i need a filesystem with deduplication and file history like zfs and brtfs is not rdy |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 655 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=655 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, website: bad links in Trinity API documentation |
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| martin__ | i'm on debian squeeze. installed kde-style-qtcurve-trinity package but qtcurve doesn't show up style settings |
| martin__ | am i missing sth? |
| rzs19 | hello martin__ |
| * l0ner is going to skyrim | |
| *** l0ner is now known as l0ner_away | |
| * l0ner_away is away: skyrim | |
| rzs19 | what shows: dpkg -L kde-style-qtcurve-trinity |
| martin__ | hi rzs19 |
| martin__ | rzs19: http://pastebin.com/XXXjxwWs |
| martin__ | doesn't show up in qtconfig-qt3, either |
| rzs19 | hmm, i see, strange... |
| rzs19 | write a bug report :) |
| martin__ | ... |
| martin__ | i see why it's not working |
| martin__ | su -c 'find / -name "plastik.so"' |
| martin__ | gets me |
| martin__ | /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/plugins/styles/plastik.so |
| rzs19 | dpkg -L kde-style-lipstik-trinity shows alos different paths... |
| rzs19 | also* |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 604 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=604 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdevelop 3.5.13 will not build without patches |
| martin__ | copied over, still not selectable. maybe because it has no .la? |
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| rzs19 | could be, i never had uses or installed differnt styles. |
| rzs19 | maybe the deb pakage is not complete? |
| rzs19 | i'am not sure but i think, one of my friends had the same problem... |
| rzs19 | write a bug report |
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| saleem | dexterkidd, still around? |
| saleem | what package provides dolphin? i dont want to install full kde so im selectively installing packages |
| rzs19 | dolphin-trinity |
| saleem | thank you rzs19 but i guess arch binary packages for stable kde3 version 3.5.12 does not have this package |
| saleem | http://vgafib.upc.es/kdemod3/i686/ |
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| rzs19 | hmm, your right... |
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| saleem | ksnapshot is also mssing |
| saleem | kdemod3-complete will pull in full bulk of kde |
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| martin__ | rzs19: ok, i will |
| martin__ | rzs19: thanks for your help |
| rzs19 | martin__: well, i could not help much. from where are you? :) |
| martin__ | rzs19: germany |
| rzs19 | martin__: i know but from where exactly= |
| rzs19 | ?* |
| martin__ | bayreuth |
| martin__ | studying physics atm |
| rzs19 | nice i'am atm in ffm. |
| martin__ | you're working on trinity as dev? |
| rzs19 | not really. i'am just working on a superkaramba dock and a bluetooth application. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 656 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=656 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Mimetype detection is incorrect, some files appear as Unknown |
| rzs19 | martin__: why do you use tde and nothing else? |
| martin__ | rzs19: well, i don't like gnome3 and kde4. latter especially because of jscript for plasma |
| rzs19 | martin__: jscript? are you forced to use it? |
| l0ner_away | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner_away: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 19 hours, 9 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> samelian: good luck :) |
| martin__ | rzs19: no panel without plasma |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 657 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=657 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Can't start KWord or KPresenter from T-Menu |
| rzs19 | martin__: okay. kicker was ported to qt4, but later removed(if i remember correctly) |
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| martin__ | rzs19: yeah, it was. |
| rzs19 | yeah i'm on coffee. now i can write something like unios in less than 10 days ;D |
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| woodsman | hi all. anybody aware that etherpad is down? |
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| rzs19 | Pikiii :D |
| Piki | hello |
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| rzs19 | it seems to be magic to get a analog card with mpeg encoder to work. |
| rzs19 | and why its called video25 and not something like pci2_pvr150_1, or some other unique name?! *grml* |
| rzs19 | like we have uuids for hdds |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 658 filed by maho+trinity@pagema.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=658 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, guidance - dbus error |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 581 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=581 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdelibs 3.5.13 FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 591 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=591 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Kicker fails |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 595 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=595 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Digikam 3.5.13 won't build without patches |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 596 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=596 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Gwenview 3.5.13 will not build without jpeg patches |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 597 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=597 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdebindings 3.5.13 will not build without numerous patches |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 598 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=598 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, kdenetwork 3.5.13 will not build on Slackware with wifi support |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 601 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=601 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdesdk 3.5.13 will not build without patch |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 602 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=602 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kipi-plugins 3.5.13 will not build without jpeg patches |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 603 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=603 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, koffice 3.5.13 will not build without patch |
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| MutantTurkey | sup doodes |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: I am going through every bug and marking it as "patchavailable" if there is a patch. |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully that will minimize the amount of crap and speed up the patch uploades after the repo repoens |
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| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr changed the Status on bug 656 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=656 normal, P1, ---, f.couperin, PATCHAVAIL, Mimetype detection is incorrect, some files appear as Unknown |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 659 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=659 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Update the "About Trinity" description in all Help menus |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 660 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=660 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, There are no Help files (Handbook) |
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| martin___ | i tried to compile qt3 from trinity with -thread and it failed: http://pastebin.com/u872jHjC |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 661 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=661 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Mimetype detection is incorrect, some types are wrongly guessed |
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| MutantTurkey | working with concrete is a pain in the butt |
| MutantTurkey | basement repairs are just annoying >_> |
| MutantTurkey | but finally time to sit down and hack :P |
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| * l0ner_away is away: skyrim | |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner_away: yo doode |
| l0ner_away | yo! |
| MutantTurkey | did you ever get tdelibs to build? |
| MutantTurkey | before you play silly games :P |
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| l0ner | my keyboard just broke ;( |
| MutantTurkey | :[ |
| l0ner | the i key went off |
| l0ner | damn |
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| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| l0ner | anyway, did you get my patches? |
| MutantTurkey | YES |
| MutantTurkey | yes, and I commited them |
| l0ner | great! |
| MutantTurkey | they were just the openexr line and a path thing right |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | and what is your real name? |
| l0ner | Pawel |
| MutantTurkey | ok :) |
| MutantTurkey | just checking |
| l0ner | :D |
| MutantTurkey | so many people I am going insane! |
| l0ner | Not only You ;) |
| l0ner | I finised installing trinity on vm, but I can't get it working... |
| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| MutantTurkey | whats the error? |
| MutantTurkey | if it involves libqt3 I HAVE NO IDEA and the only way I've fixed it is by preloading qt3 module... |
| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| l0ner | kdm was missing from rc.d so i couldn't start it at boot, but I fixed that by writing manually, but I can't login |
| MutantTurkey | wait! |
| MutantTurkey | did you write it? |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | send a patch please :D :D |
| MutantTurkey | I just use xinit, but for people who use kdm a script would be necessary. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 662 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=662 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDE Groupware Wizard |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: the bugs are piling up! |
| l0ner | let me start vm, I'll tell you exactly what isuess I have |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: kdm start script http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/510700/ I didn't really wrote it, just copied hal script and tweaked it. |
| MutantTurkey | >_> |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: kdm fail login log: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/510701/ kdm starts, I insert my login and passwords and then I return to clean kdm login prompt |
| l0ner | oh, and I had problems with tde not finding libqt-mt.so.3 |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | look on the wiki |
| MutantTurkey | export LD_PRELOAD="/opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so |
| MutantTurkey | maybe that will help |
| MutantTurkey | gotta split sorry |
| l0ner | i fixed it by adding path to qt lib folder into /etc/ld.so.conf.d/trinity-kdelibs.comn |
| MutantTurkey | let me know if that hrelps |
| l0ner | well, I don't have this issue anymore |
| Piki | >.< just when to the student loan website application, they told me that i'm using an incompatible browser, and they say Firefox is supported. i'm using Iceweasel from the mozilla backports, is the change in name really that important when they're /exactly/ the same browser? |
| l0ner | if I try to start trinity by starttrinity script it gives me "kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server" |
| * l0ner is back. | |
| l0ner | and why I was marked away? |
| Piki | l0ner: i didn't know you were gone? O.o |
| l0ner | i was, but long ago. |
| l0ner | I was playing Rage |
| Piki | never heard of it |
| l0ner | new game by bethesda and doom creators |
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| l0ner | quite nice |
| l0ner | post-apo |
| Piki | l0ner: most IRC clients (at least the ones i've used) don't have an auto-unaway feature, and if they do, you probably need to enable it in the settings |
| l0ner | maybe |
| Piki | which means you have to manually tell it you're back before it will set that |
| l0ner | I know I have auto-away turned off |
| l0ner | I'll look it up later |
| Piki | argh, even Chrome (not chromium) won't work >.< |
| Piki | probably the os string being sent, they give instructions on installing browsers in windows, anybody know how to tweak the os string (or another trick besides wine)? |
| l0ner | i know opera somewhere allows you to edit the string |
| l0ner | don't remember where tho |
| Piki | using open source software :-) |
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| l0ner | I don't really care if it is open or not if its free and do it's job |
| l0ner | i can't stand chrome/chromium |
| l0ner | firefox is a mess |
| Piki | so far firefox has done the job well for me, and it's open sources |
| l0ner | and i like operas features like speed dial and bookmarks sync |
| Piki | personally, i don't trust code i can't see |
| l0ner | i stopped using firefox somewhere about 3.2 |
| l0ner | it was too heavy for me |
| Piki | since the student loan form will probably require personal info that nobody should see, i'd rather use something i can trust |
| l0ner | its up to you |
| Piki | (for example, social security number, since it's the governement and they see me as a number, they'd want that number) |
| Piki | apparently, according to the government, it's not up to me, unless i can trick them into thinking i'm using what they want so i can fill out their form |
| Piki | i'm not really surprised they'd do that, but since i need the student loan and the government doesn't seem to offer paper any more, i kinda need to fill it out online |
| jumpship | Piki: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/ might be what you're looking for |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner around? |
| MutantTurkey | dang |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 289 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=289 normal, P3, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, KInfoCenter Not Purged from Desktop and Still Contains Two Modules |
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| Piki | is it possible to use mplayer as a plugin in firefox? |
| Piki | kaffeine keeps crashing, after reporting an error from xine (doesn't support the video codec) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 663 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=663 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KNetwalk: No description in the T-Menu |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: doode I pushed the changes thanks :D |
| Piki | there doesn't seem to be a l0ner here |
| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| MutantTurkey | yeah he's off playing skyrim |
| MutantTurkey | he'll be back later I am sure |
| MutantTurkey | none of your business :P |
| Piki | skyrim |
| Piki | ? |
| MutantTurkey | what? |
| Piki | right... |
| Piki | ? |
| Piki | if it's none of my business, why tell me? :-) |
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| Xu_R|dead | skyrimmmmmm :D |
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| rzs19 | good morning... need... coffee... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 664 filed by iang@austonley.org.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=664 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Removing KDM themes hangs |
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| rzs19 | well, the bluetooth implementation will be network transparent, atm just obex ft. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 665 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=665 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kompare: cannot display diff files, cannot load KompareViewPart |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 666 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=666 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, website: Help is a bad link in bugs.trinitydesktop.org |
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| Strangelv | Qt-related news |
| Strangelv | ::: http://drdobbs.com/open-source/231901657 |
| Strangelv | Nokia might not care about Qt3 at all, but maybe we can get http://www.qt-project.org/ to be interested enough in accepting updates to Qt3 |
| Strangelv | If we're doing all the work they can be a completely passive upstream |
| Strangelv | Or should I say Tim... is he doing 100% of the changes to Qt3? |
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| * Strangelv has lost track of the number of times this has been him: http://xkcd.com/979/ | |
| Strangelv | "The Qt-project peoyple might also have ideas for how to solve the Qt3/Qt4 collision situation that we've not thought of= |
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| JanC | hello, I am not a KDE3/KDE4 user, but I need KDE3's kdelibs & a couple of other KDE3 libraries to run some "old" KDE3-based applications on a non-KDE desktop |
| JanC | but it seems like the Ubuntu/Debian packages for trinity don't indicate that they can be used as a replacement for the existing KDE3 packages, and because of that dependencies of KDE-based apps that are not provided by Trinity get unsatisfied dependencies... |
| JanC | is there a reason for that (e.g. do those applications need to be rebuilt)? |
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| jumpship | You could try asking on the mailing list, can I ask what the applications are? |
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| JanC | I guess what I see is already reported in bugs like #123, #533 and and several others, but especially #411 |
| JanC | so my question really comes down to: is there a technical/compatibility reason why there is no "Provides:" in the packaging? (as described at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#s5.9.3 & http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s7.6.2 / http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-virtual ) |
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| * Strangelv doesn't know enough about the workings of Qt3 | |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 667 filed by rabid.zombie.squirrel@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=667 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdm spawns kwin as root, keeps running after login |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 668 filed by rabid.zombie.squirrel@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=668 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, dual-head setup: kdm doesn't display the background image correctly |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 669 filed by rabid.zombie.squirrel@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=669 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, new screen locker with dual-head setup: secondary screen doesn't get hidden! |
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| Strangelv | wb |
| gcsimon | btw. i *think* i have fixed a rare bug in kmail, which let it crash randomly when moving mail arround |
| Strangelv | Thank you |
| l0ner | let's see |
| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 15 hours, 20 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> what? |
| l0ner | he works |
| l0ner | and damn |
| * Strangelv needs to do something with client-ide email again. He doesn't even know how many emails he has stuffed into his squirrelmail account. Tens of thousands. | |
| gcsimon | had something to do with the index-generation. there was an assert() which could trigger on an invalid index. usually kmail should simply regenerate the index if it thinks it is corrupted. and thats what i did. removed the assert and replaced it with "recreste index" and try again. |
| gcsimon | recreate* |
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| gcsimon | shall i submit a patch? and if yes, where? |
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| * Strangelv isn't the person to ask whereto subwit the patch | |
| gcsimon | hm. tbottu is a bit... unstable today. |
| Strangelv | I'm assuming to the git server, but i don'tn know if it's ready yet |
| gcsimon | ok. in any case i will continue testing ;-) |
| Strangelv | Many thanks! |
| * Strangelv admittedly has no idea how many people use KMail | |
| l0ner | I use it |
| l0ner | I prefer using apps that integrate into DE I use |
| l0ner | which in my case is KDE3.5.10 atm |
| l0ner | if only I could get trinity kdm working on vm |
| l0ner | I'd clean install arch and install tde |
| Strangelv | what problems are you running into? Are there bug reports filed? |
| l0ner | nope |
| l0ner | But I think it'sdistro related |
| l0ner | since I can't get ANY login manager to work |
| l0ner | I get slim working, but only if I try to login as root |
| l0ner | anyway after I login I'm returned to the login page |
| Strangelv | hmm |
| l0ner | and there is no trinity session in kdm session menu |
| l0ner | noticed it now |
| l0ner | argh... |
| l0ner | too much rum |
| l0ner | i'm getting sleepy |
| * l0ner is away: napping. | |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 671 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=671 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity apps not available to mailcap-aware applications like Mutt |
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| rzs19_ | ola |
| gcsimon | IOner: i found, that i need to change stuff in my kdmrc to make login work on ubuntu. TDE seems to have its own versions of Xwilling, Xsession, X....* and one has to add these to kdmrc. |
| gcsimon | maybe that hels you. otherwise you could try adding debug-messages to these files, and test where it breaks |
| gcsimon | helps* |
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| Borg^Queen | Is Tim about? |
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| Strangelv | Have'nt seen him |
| MutantTurkey | yo |
| Strangelv | Qt has a new upstream if that counts |
| MutantTurkey | on qt, |
| MutantTurkey | how am I supposed to work with th ui files for Qt/ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | I need to edit one... |
| * Strangelv looks at the Borg Queen | |
| MutantTurkey | kuiviewer? |
| * Strangelv wonders ig gcsimon knows the answer | |
| MutantTurkey | whats the question? |
| Strangelv | The question I'm thikning of is yours, actually... |
| Strangelv | my questions would not be on-topic as i try to prepare for something political tomorrow |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: I brainstormed at lunch with a buddy of mine who is a film major |
| MutantTurkey | i have some REALLY good ideas. |
| MutantTurkey | how business oriented do we want to be? |
| MutantTurkey | because I think that is a tappable market |
| Strangelv | might be good to get them down whilu thuf,re fresh |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: I have |
| MutantTurkey | got them scribbled on paper |
| Strangelv | segmenting our marketing is probably an overdue idea -- you've got a good busicess-centric focus in mind? |
| * Strangelv did not get enough sleep. This not only has him behind schedurle but makes his typing worse than normal | |
| MutantTurkey | we already have that |
| rzs19_ | hello MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | rock solid stability, integration, simplicity, familiar design |
| MutantTurkey | hey rzs19_ |
| MutantTurkey | any progress on bluez? :P |
| rzs19_ | yep |
| Strangelv | I must admit that limitless customizability probably doesn't appeal much to Mordock, Preventer of Information Services |
| rzs19_ | atm i have less time, but there is a code base and it goes on :) |
| Strangelv | So the 'How do you have YOUR TDE' isn't the ad to target to Mordock |
| Strangelv | "That's the ad for end users |
| rzs19_ | MutantTurkey: maybe i can present something working next monday. |
| Strangelv | What is our ad for Mordock? |
| rzs19_ | MutantTurkey: i have a obex daemon which makes it network transparent. |
| Strangelv | Also, YouTube might not be as valuble as, say, an ad in InfoWeek or similar |
| Strangelv | ...although I'd also try a press release |
| Strangelv | We may want to wait for 14 for he business-centric campaign. 13 seems to have enough rough edges to make it less appealing to IT departments than we want it to be |
| Strangelv | "RLet me rephrase |
| Strangelv | Wait iuntil 14 to unleash the IT-centric campaign |
| Strangelv | "ideally haev it ready to go before then |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19_: awesome |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: youtube is the way to do it. |
| MutantTurkey | we just embed it on our desktop |
| Strangelv | Even for IT departments? |
| MutantTurkey | no i mean in our website |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: look, people can see the video on our website |
| MutantTurkey | putting it on Mordock or Infoweek is thousands of dollars |
| MutantTurkey | the next release however will generate more interest, hopefully more solid |
| Strangelv | Mordock isn't a destination. He's a Dilbert character |
| MutantTurkey | sorry >_> |
| MutantTurkey | I stopped reading dilbert 20 years ago. |
| MutantTurkey | actually i started and quit quickly |
| MutantTurkey | about a yearish ago |
| MutantTurkey | It was whitty for a whle, but its rather repetitive. |
| Strangelv | It works better to hit it periodically and go through a mess of them and ignore the boring ones |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| Strangelv | Mordock is their IT person who is more honest about his views about users than most |
| MutantTurkey | yeah i remember |
| MutantTurkey | welp what I say is that business oriented could be a long term target. |
| Strangelv | Agreed |
| Strangelv | IT types tend to be very conservative an -- whaddaya know! So are we! |
| Strangelv | 8) |
| Strangelv | At least from a UI standpoint |
| MutantTurkey | exactly. |
| MutantTurkey | for people who were using gnome 2.x |
| MutantTurkey | they cant use it forever and 3.0 is to radical. |
| Strangelv | That's definitely another grop |
| MutantTurkey | Trinity has awesome tools like Kontact to manager business. |
| Strangelv | Unless the 2.0 fork can build enough momentum as much as they dislike us, we're less bad than 3.0 for them |
| Strangelv | Just like perhaps most of us would consider Glome 2 to be prleferable to KDE 4 |
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| Conan179 | Guten nabend zusammen |
| MutantTurkey | Hallo! |
| Strangelv | Whirh means we need to make some of thoes a possibly higer priority than they are. is anyone heavily testing them to search for bugs? |
| * Strangelv waves | |
| MutantTurkey | wie gehts |
| Conan179 | gut |
| MutantTurkey | gut :) |
| Conan179 | ich hab ein kleines problem, ich wollte trinity auf mein ubuntu 11.04 innstallieren, aber es bricht immer mit einer fehler meldung ab |
| MutantTurkey | 11.04... |
| Conan179 | ja |
| Conan179 | 11.10 kommt mir nicht auf die platte, ich vermisse gnome classic |
| MutantTurkey | Conan179: honestly I speak like 2 peices of german :P |
| MutantTurkey | do you have english skills? |
| Conan179 | ok! terrbile |
| MutantTurkey | Ich sprecht ein bisschen deutsch |
| rzs19_ | Conan179: wie lautet die Fehlermeldung? |
| Conan179 | sudo konnte nicht endfernt werden |
| Conan179 | Refusing to remove sudo. |
| Conan179 | dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von sudo (--remove): |
| Conan179 | Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von: |
| Conan179 | sudo |
| Conan179 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| MutantTurkey | dpkg -f maybe |
| MutantTurkey | Conan179: why do you want to remove sudo/ |
| Strangelv | "trinity-sudo replaces sudo; is that it? |
| Strangelv | "or is it sudo-trinity? |
| MutantTurkey | sudo-trinity |
| Conan179 | not i the trinity install |
| MutantTurkey | anyway, class is over, gotta catch the bus! |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19_: email me if you have it ready :) |
| rzs19_ | MutantTurkey: okay, whats your mail? :) |
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| * Strangelv needs it back for tomorrow | |
| Conan179 | warum will trinity sudo löschen? es gehört doch zu gnome. |
| rzs19_ | Conan179: trinity will es ersetzen |
| Conan179 | das beist sich doch mit gnome |
| rzs19_ | Conan179: hast du auc hdie richtigen quellen geqählt? |
| rzs19_ | gewählt* |
| Conan179 | ja den natty wahl |
| rzs19_ | und du hast gnome auch mit dabei? |
| Conan179 | jup es ist das standart desktop von ubuntu, bzw das was ich runtergeladen hab |
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| rzs19_ | okay vll. eine dumme frage,aber nur um auf nummer sicher zu gehen, du hast ein apt-get update als root gemacht und anschliessend apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity? |
| Conan179 | jup |
| rzs19_ | probiermal "apt-get -f install" |
| Conan179 | ok sekunde |
| Conan179 | immer noch |
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| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 14 minutes and 33 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> rzs19_: email me if you have it ready :) |
| l0ner | argh |
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| gcsimon | Kontact needs a polish if you want to use it in business. i try to. i can do much. but there is much left open. a good integration into openoffice or libreoffice for example. |
| gcsimon | and no, i have no idea about qt |
| rzs19_ | Conan179: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=200e52a821b2b6b3e436da772401f813&p=9826590&postcount=425 |
| rzs19_ | Conan179: ich hab grad kein Ubuntu und meine Rechner sind noch nicht ganz fertig, kann dir also nur bedingt helfen. |
| gcsimon | was für ein ubuntu ist denn das? |
| rzs19_ | er hat glaub ich 10.04 ? |
| gcsimon | ich hab ununtu mit TDE am laufen (ubuntu-server minimal + TDE) |
| gcsimon | genau das hab ich auch |
| rzs19_ | 11* |
| gcsimon | ich hab 10.04.03 LTS |
| Conan179 | 11.04 |
| gcsimon | uh. da hatte ich schon mit dem kernel trouble |
| Conan179 | E: Paket sudo-kde3 kann nicht gefunden werden |
| Conan179 | muss anders heisen |
| gcsimon | sollte sudo-trinity heißen, oder? |
| rzs19_ | Conan179: anstelle dessen mach ei napt-get -f install |
| rzs19_ | sudo apt-get -f install |
| Conan179 | toby@Toby-7730G-x64:~$ sudo apt-get -f install |
| Conan179 | Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig |
| Conan179 | Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut |
| Conan179 | Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig |
| Conan179 | 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert. |
| gcsimon | bin leider keine große hilfe was apt angeht. was sag, ich bin gar keine hilfe was apt angeht. benutze apt jetzt seit 1 woche. |
| rzs19_ | scheitert wohl daran das kein root passwort gesetzt wurde, da ihr unter ubuntu ja nur mit sudo arbeitet |
| gcsimon | passwd root |
| gcsimon | sudo passwd root |
| Conan179 | ich bin root in dem moment |
| rzs19_ | ganz genau, aber er will ja kurfristig sudo entfernen, wäre also fatal |
| gcsimon | oh ja! |
| rzs19_ | ersetze das kde-sudo durch sudo-trinity |
| gcsimon | aber nachdem man ein root passwort gesetzt hat funktioniert sudo eh nicht mehr :P |
| rzs19_ | dann sollte es funktionieren |
| rzs19_ | wenn sudo richtig konfiguriert ist, dann sollte es funktionieren |
| gcsimon | joa. ich hab von sudo auch keine ahnung. und war froh das es nicht mehr ging, nachdem ich wider mit "su -l" arbeiten konnte |
| Conan179 | jup jetzt gehts |
| rzs19_ | fein :) |
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| Conan179 | es war also nur das root password, darauf muss man erst mal komen |
| gcsimon | Xu_R....? |
| rzs19_ | Conan179: jap, gott sei dank hats schon wer raus gefunden und als nicht ubuntu user kann ich dir kaum helfen, sonst hättest du bis morgenwarten müssen, dann hät ich eine vm aufgesetzt mit ubuntu. |
| gcsimon | wenn das mit der ubuntu vm so einfach wäre.... (ka. was für ein system du nutzt. unter suse eine xen domain mit ubuntu aufzusetzen.... viel spass ;-) ) |
| Conan179 | ich bin nur froh das ich einen deutschsprechende user getroffen hab |
| gcsimon | ;-) |
| rzs19_ | ja es gibt ja noch virtualbox, qemu, lxc, vmware ;) |
| gcsimon | ah ja. mit denen könnte das einfacher sein ;-) |
| Conan179 | mein haupt os ist windows (nicht schlagen) jetzt hab ich ubuntu mit lubuntu xbuntu drauf und wollte noch das gute alte kde 3 haben, kde4 gnome 3 und ubuntu 11.10 liegen mir so gar nicht, deswegen hab ich noch 11.04 mit dem guten alten gnome clasic (1.irgendwas) |
| Conan179 | 2. irgendwas |
| Conan179 | kennst du dich mit grub 2 aus? |
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| gcsimon | nein ;-) und ja: ubuntu nutz grub 2. |
| gcsimon | *leider* |
| Conan179 | ich hab bei grub2 eingetlich nur einen kleinen schöhnheitsfehler |
| gcsimon | "schöhnheitsfehler" ? |
| gcsimon | ich hatte mit grub2 mehr als nur "schöhnheitsfehler"... (grmbl) |
| Conan179 | jup alte kernel werden immer in einer untermenü gepackt, das will ich nicht, ich möchte das alle kernel direkt im hauptfenster sind |
| Conan179 | ich kanns verstehen, wen es bei dir nicht geht, bei mir geht es gut, bis auf den kleinen schöheitsfehler bei mir |
| gcsimon | also es gibt ne config datei.... irgendwo in /etc/grub* und mit grub-update oder so, wird dass dann nach /boot übertragen. |
| Conan179 | ich weis, da hab ich es auch shcon mal endfernt, wurde aber beim neustart wiederhergestellt -.- |
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| Conan179 | grub legacy gibts noch |
| Conan179 | http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grub_2_durch_Grub_ersetzen |
| gcsimon | hm. scheint ja recht einfach zu sein |
| Conan179 | einfach ist relativ |
| rzs19_ | so, ich leg mich kurz hin, bis später |
| Conan179 | tschüss |
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| Strangelv | wb |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 672 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=672 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmymoney crashes on startup |
| Conan179 | ich geh auch mal, tschüss! |
| Strangelv | tschüss |
| * Strangelv at least remembers what tschüss means | |
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| MutantTurkey | sup all |
| MutantTurkey | isnt bug 672 a duplicate? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=672 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmymoney crashes on startup |
| MutantTurkey | guess not |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: you want test upower? |
| samelian | www.thel.ro/tdelibs.tar.gz |
| MutantTurkey | is it done? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: how can I test this? |
| samelian | is not done |
| samelian | it build a test |
| samelian | this test attempt to suspend your machine in 5 seconds |
| samelian | tell me if the suspend is executed succesfully |
| MutantTurkey | ok I can test later |
| MutantTurkey | a bit busy right this second |
| samelian | ok, ping me when you have a result |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: hi! |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: do yu have problems with kdm on arch? |
| l0ner | cos I have... |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I havent used it yet |
| MutantTurkey | whats the problem though? |
| l0ner | dang |
| MutantTurkey | I dont really ues kdm |
| MutantTurkey | maybe I can help |
| l0ner | After login I'm dropped back to the kdm |
| MutantTurkey | that is very specific |
| l0ner | I trie slim, the same problem occurs |
| MutantTurkey | about as specific as "my car broke down" |
| l0ner | argh... |
| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| l0ner | I don't know where to look |
| MutantTurkey | get me some logs and i'll help |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/511118/ |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/511119/ |
| l0ner | first one is kdm.log |
| l0ner | second is slim.log |
| l0ner | though I can login through slim if I login as root |
| MutantTurkey | can you test this on a real box? |
| MutantTurkey | I have heard vbox can be mssy |
| l0ner | dang, not today |
| l0ner | but I could |
| MutantTurkey | and getcwd |
| MutantTurkey | after line 91 it goes to hell |
| l0ner | I'll do it friday, since i'll have time |
| MutantTurkey | OK |
| MutantTurkey | awesome |
| l0ner | ok, I'm going to sleep |
| l0ner | I need to wake up early tommorow |
| l0ner | cya guys |
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| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: cant build it. |
| MutantTurkey | Unknown CMake command "tde_add_executable". |
| samelian | how you run cmake? |
| samelian | you should run it against tdelibs, not upower dir |
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| MutantTurkey | cmake ./ |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | yeah it's not working still |
| gcsimon | samelian: i'm building kdebase here, and it fails during "make install", because some image files are missing. i can report the exact files that are missing as soon as the build completes again. |
| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: yes please |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: okay all is good :) |
| samelian | suspend it's ok? |
| gcsimon | is this upower something for notebooks, like kpowersave? |
| samelian | gcsimon: not exactly, upower is daemon, like hal |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: going to test now |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: OK |
| samelian | working? |
| MutantTurkey | works :) |
| samelian | good |
| MutantTurkey | excellent |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
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| _Pete_ | morning |
| _Pete_ | I had some "minor" problem again, using ubuntu oneiric and was using nightly-build repos |
| _Pete_ | there's was some conflicts so switched back to normal repos |
| _Pete_ | Now after reboot there's no more trinity choice in KDM session menu |
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| tbottu | 10nick@leverton.org changed the Status on bug 670 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=670 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, ark_part not available as an embedded File Association |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 673 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=673 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, additional man pages are missing |
| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr changed the Status on bug 673 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| rzs19 | hello MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| rzs19 | is it normal thath konversation and kopete pritns out my password in a private message over irc? |
| rzs19 | identify here-stands-my-top-secret-password |
| MutantTurkey | thats how it works |
| rzs19 | as private message to myself? |
| MutantTurkey | it sends it to the NickServ |
| MutantTurkey | like so /msg NickServ identify password |
| rzs19 | yeah that is clear |
| rzs19 | when i have set a password in the settigns area, becouse my account needs a password, then i got a private message(like whispering) which shows me my own password. |
| rzs19 | in konversation i can login. When i'm using kopete, than it can not connect, after soem minutes a window opfens with my password and thats not funny, when someone stands behind me, he will read my password. |
| rzs19 | well "not connect" is the wrong explanation. it connects and makes something and after some time i got from my self a private message with my password. |
| rzs19 | is this the new lightweight implementation of kwalled, backend irc? ;) |
| rzs19 | +t |
| MutantTurkey | I've never used kopete |
| rzs19 | konversation has the same problem. |
| rzs19 | in 3.5.12 it worked... hmm... |
| MutantTurkey | oh sureee blame 3.5.13 :P |
| MutantTurkey | I dont think that konversation code changed on bit. |
| schreiberstein | I'm using opensuse 12.1 now. KDE3 is in the official repos... isn't that great?! :-D |
| schreiberstein | the only problem is, that i can't get compiz to work. |
| schreiberstein | :-( |
| schreiberstein | have a nice day! gtg |
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| MutantTurkey | KDE:KDE3 is not supported by trinity. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|MOARDEAD: I see you're making progress though :) |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: i don't have tested it with konversation, but with kopete it workd in 3.5.12 ... |
| rzs19 | so i have tried to switch to konversation and i got the same problem. |
| MutantTurkey | I dont really understand the problem :P |
| rzs19 | is your nickname registered? |
| rzs19 | if yes, which program do you use? |
| rzs19 | wait i think i have it |
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| rzs19 | okay konversation nwo works, it was a tipo |
| rzs19 | now* |
| rzs19 | *testing kopete* |
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| MutantTurkey | konversation, MutantTurkey |
| rzs19 | okay, now i got it. |
| rzs19 | konversation was my failure, i had a tpo in my config |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| rzs19 | so now to kopete: okay seem that i'm color blind... |
| rzs19 | or the icon does not change proper... *testing again* |
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| rzs19 | okay kopete makes some trouble |
| rzs19 | when i disconnect and try to reconnect, than i can not login anymore |
| rzs19 | the icon colr does not change and the menu does not work correctly. |
| rzs19 | hmm, strange... |
| rzs19 | well but konversation does work... :-) |
| gcsimon | rzs19: i remember having some trouble with kopete. but it got it working. dunno what i did to make it work proper. i use konversation for IRC. |
| gcsimon | rzs19: but i don't have a registered nickname |
| rzs19 | gcsimon: on my 3.5.12 maschin it works, but i only tested it for one day, maybe i'm wrong... but i could swear it worked |
| rzs19 | kopete is like a good looking stolid girl... hmpf... |
| MutantTurkey | konversation is nice :) |
| rzs19 | but i want also kopete for irc... |
| rzs19 | i don't want two girlfriends, i just want one, one which can everything. |
| gcsimon | i use it for ICQ. but you need to keep the chat-window open if you want to see the messages on IRC. konversation runs nicely in the taskbar and show the messages on screen. |
| rzs19 | yeah, well no girlfriend is perfect... |
| gcsimon | :D |
| rzs19 | but maybe she can work on her behavior. |
| MutantTurkey | mine is :)) |
| rzs19 | maybeshe is listen to use? we should talk nice about her, otherwise she will slap us and we need to use pidgin. |
| rzs19 | and i don't like pidgin.. |
| gcsimon | to make kopete change its behavior it needs a psychologist with some spare time... |
| rzs19 | maybe also a scientist... |
| rzs19 | i alos like the "/exec -o" command in kopete |
| gcsimon | i think both are doing a good job on their primary task. konversation for IRC, kopete for chats. i'm currently more focused on kmail. and fixing all the crash sites. found another one yesterday. but it's hard to fix. |
| rzs19 | gcsimon: give me your icq nr, so i can send you bash automated spam messages :) |
| gcsimon | :D |
| gcsimon | how is that command working? |
| rzs19 | gcsimon: do you have the same problems with kwin like i have? kwin is running as root. |
| gcsimon | nope. runs as my user account |
| rzs19 | kopete: /exec -o ps aux | grep k |
| gcsimon | cool. thanks! |
| rzs19 | the o parameter is for sending the output, otherwise only u will see the output |
| rzs19 | its soemtimes usefull to show output from commands |
| rzs19 | gcsimon: does your login render correctly? |
| rzs19 | kdm |
| gcsimon | yep. kdm works properly |
| rzs19 | dualheadsetup? |
| rzs19 | and which graficdriver |
| gcsimon | yahw. i have a script in Autostart wich sets up the dual-head via xrandr |
| gcsimon | kdm has only single-head |
| rzs19 | okay, i'm using kdm with dualhead and get in some trouble |
| rzs19 | does screen locking work proper? |
| rzs19 | i can see my desktop on the left screen. the lock dialog is managed by kwin |
| rzs19 | if its not managed by kwin, than it works. |
| gcsimon | same here. screen locking is messed up |
| gcsimon | i was about to blame the display-driver |
| rzs19 | maybe i asked thissome time before(brain refers to /dev/null). from where are you? |
| gcsimon | i live in germany |
| rzs19 | and where in germany? |
| gcsimon | a small village near mannheim |
| gcsimon | why you're asking? because of my poor english? ;-) |
| rzs19 | well, take a look on my english :D |
| gcsimon | until now i was able to understand it ;-) |
| rzs19 | okay... |
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| rzs19 | i'am from ffm |
| gcsimon | right, you sais that before |
| gcsimon | said* |
| rzs19 | so i can talk german, but no one will be able to understand me... |
| gcsimon | in school my english was better than my german.... so acording to my school marks we shoudl stick to english :P |
| rzs19 | i have created my own orthography |
| rzs19 | but there is no specification, so its cahnge often... |
| rzs19 | change* |
| gcsimon | my keyboard is creating mine :( |
| rzs19 | yes, that also :D |
| rzs19 | i need to go, can i maybe have your icq number? |
| gcsimon | sure.... |
| * gcsimon looks up his icq number | |
| gcsimon | rzs19: 333419168 |
| rzs19 | good bye |
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| gcsimon | has anybody seen Timothy recently? |
| MutantTurkey | i've talked to him |
| gcsimon | !seen kb9vqf |
| tbottu | gcsimon: kb9vqf was last seen in #trinity-desktop 1 week, 5 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <kb9vqf> bad design on KDE4's part unfortunately |
| MutantTurkey | he is extremely busy but is making good progress. |
| MutantTurkey | he also mentioned his way of not suckking down more time is by avoiding the IRC :P |
| gcsimon | ok. if he is busy i can wait. it's only about that server again. |
| MutantTurkey | which server? |
| gcsimon | i wanted to contribute a server to TDE. maybe for load-balancinf or just adding extra bandwith. |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | welp I suggest email him:P |
| gcsimon | bandwidth* |
| gcsimon | had send him an email. but no response until now. but again - it can wait. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 674 filed by cycledaemon@youmano.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=674 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konsole Tab-bar Remnant. |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 663 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=663 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, KNetwalk: No description in the T-Menu |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 675 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=675 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, startkde (starttde) needs updating |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 675 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| gcsimon | can't find can one of you find the attached script in this bug? am i blind? |
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| gcsimon | hi samelian. i have the logs of the failed make install for kdebase. http://www.brennecke-it.net/simon/linux/build.log |
| gcsimon | samelian: here is a file listing of all files in the tree: http://www.brennecke-it.net/simon/linux/files_in_source_tree |
| gcsimon | samelian: i'm building in the sub-dir "build" |
| samelian | gcsimon: for unknown reason you have not energybig.png |
| gcsimon | samelian: yes. i installed the source package via "apt-get source kdebase-trinity". |
| samelian | in my source tree energybig.png is present |
| * gcsimon wonders what he did wrong.... | |
| samelian | check your source tree |
| gcsimon | i will |
| samelian | this image should be under kdebase/kcontrol/energy/pics/ |
| Xu_R|MOARDEAD | MutantTurkey: yea... finally, I might have time to work on it! ^_^ |
| Xu_R|MOARDEAD | at least after tmrw >_> |
| gcsimon | samelian: just pulled a new kdebase-trinity (http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ lucid/main kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13-0ubuntu9+r1261450+pr23~lucid (tar) [60,2MB]) |
| gcsimon | dir kdebase-trinity-3.5.13/kcontrol/energy/pics/ |
| gcsimon | insgesamt 20K |
| gcsimon | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4,0K 2011-10-29 23:03 . |
| gcsimon | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4,0K 2011-03-12 07:57 .. |
| gcsimon | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 354 2011-03-12 07:57 CMakeLists.txt |
| gcsimon | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 107 2010-08-12 05:28 Makefile.am |
| gcsimon | drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4,0K 2011-10-29 23:02 .svn |
| gcsimon | samelian: the file is not included. what am i doing wrong here? |
| samelian | gcsimon: I think your sources are incomplete |
| gcsimon | samelian: how can i fix this? or, where can i get the complete source? |
| gcsimon | samelian: my apt-get reports, that it cannot verify the signature, could this be related? |
| samelian | I have no ideea, I'm not ubuntu/debian user |
| samelian | http://ppa2.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/redirect.php?file=releases/3.5.13/downloads.html |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 676 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=676 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Make the default window placement Center rather than Smart |
| gcsimon | samelian: so this is related to the packages in the ubuntu repository, right? |
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| samelian | gcsimon: probably |
| gcsimon | samelian: ok. now i got the images. i will retry the build. thanks. do you know who is maintaining the ubuntu/debian packages? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 677 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=677 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Forced Window Sizes Broken |
| samelian | gcsimon: Tim |
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| Conan179 | Nabend |
| gcsimon | hi |
| Conan179 | ich such die wlan konfiguration von trinity, wo versteckt die sich? |
| Conan179 | und wie stelle ich die system sprache auf deutsch um? |
| gcsimon | keine ahnung. aber wenn du die frage nochmal auf englisch stellst, können die anderen dir sicherlich helfen. (btw. du meinst das try-icon, diesen wlan-manager?) |
| gcsimon | ich musste die übersetzungen installieren |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 678 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=678 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Integrate Kopete into Kontact |
| gcsimon | aber die sind nicht ganz vollständig |
| Conan179 | mein eng ist misserabel... ähm ja das symbol wäre auc hgut, hautsache ich kann endlich in mein wlan |
| Conan179 | zum minteds das mit der sprach müste ich ihn bekommen |
| Conan179 | how can i chan the system lang to gemerman? |
| gcsimon | also ich nutze die kubuntu-10.10-trinity-desktop-amd64.iso auf meinem notebook. da wurde wlan ganz automatisch konfiguriert. musste nix besonderes machen. |
| Conan179 | ich hab als ubuntu innstalliert und kde nachträglich innstalliert (11.04) |
| gcsimon | hm. hast du knetworkmanager? |
| Conan179 | aha der fehlt |
| gcsimon | bei der gelegenheit kannst du auch die translation-packages installieren. |
| Conan179 | ok und wie? |
| Conan179 | ah perfekt jetzt klappts endlich mit dem wlan |
| Conan179 | ach na toll trinity darf nicht auf meine ntfs part zugreifen, ach wie ist das schön... |
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| tbottu | 105CE4BB4E@brennecke-it.net changed the Status on bug 678 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=678 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Integrate Kopete into Kontact |
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| Conan179 | @gcsimon ich danke dir, mein trinity ist auf deutsch und ich bin im wlan, danke |
| gcsimon | Conan179: bitte schön ;-) |
| Conan179 | ok tschüss |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 679 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=679 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Koffice FTBFS (python problem) under Fedora 16 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 353 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=353 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, KOffice will not build with GraphicsMagick 1.3.12 or 1.2.10 installed |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 600 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=600 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdegraphics 3.5.13 cmake files incorrectly install header files into the incorrect location |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 599 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=599 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdepim 3.5.13 cmake files incorrectly install header files into the incorrect location |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 680 filed by monqpourbsd-linuxfr@yahoo.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=680 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Hard-coded kxkb xmodmap path |
| tbottu | 105CE4BB4E@brennecke-it.net changed the Status on bug 355 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=355 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kontact opens calendar to wrong day |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 681 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=681 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add a KControl option/check box to show/not show the exiting "Saving Your Settings" dialog. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 682 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=682 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, website: Installation Instructions: From Sources section missing |
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| rzs19 | hello |
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| gcsimon | does anyone know, ehat i have to do, to get SASL support in kio_pop? i have libsasl-dev installed |
| gcsimon | i'm building with cmake |
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| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr changed the Status on bug 639 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=639 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, missing icon file for qtconfig-qt3 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 683 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=683 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, FTBFS with libpng15 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 684 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=684 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KOffice plugin system |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|lessdead: around? |
| MutantTurkey | I need someone to review my ideas for kickoff >_> |
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| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr changed the Status on bug 554 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
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| tbottu | 10monqpourbsd-linuxfr@yahoo.fr changed the Status on bug 383 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=383 normal, P5, ---, monqpourbsd-linuxfr, PATCHAVAIL, can't add printer : wrong make_driver_db_cups path |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 679 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=679 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Koffice FTBFS (python problem) under Fedora 16 |
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| Borg^Queen | hello |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|lessdead: ping |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: want to test? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: Can't |
| MutantTurkey | in the car |
| MutantTurkey | travelling to another state to visit my family for thanksgiving |
| samelian | aha :) |
| samelian | however, I created a gui |
| samelian | I think can be easy transfomed in something useful |
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| yetifoot | hi, i'm curious about sudo-trinity, and why it's needed? I'm trying to build a debian live cd with trinity on, but once i install sudo-trinity, it stops working, with authentication failures |
| MutantTurkey | on that note, happy thanksgiving! |
| yetifoot | hah, thanks, but i'll be avoiding eating any mutant turkeys |
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| gcsimon | hi guys. i'm currently looking into making TDE on 32bit work with 64bit inodes. as far as i can see, just changing all "stat" calls into "stat64" would do the magic. can i just do that, or will there be any problems if i commit a patch? |
| yetifoot | sweet, well i solved my debian livecd issues, i had to change the 'minimal' package list to remove 'sudo', and adding --force-yes to apt options, and then the cd built, and at first test seems to work |
| yetifoot | now to burn it for real and have a poke around, try using it for a few hours, see what works and what doesn't |
| yetifoot | cya later, happy thanksgivings |
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| lostson | i am running trinity on centos 6 amarok cannot play mp3's why is xine-lib-extras-freeworld not in the trinity repo for this |
| lostson | i cannot find this package anywhere |
| lostson | well building my own rpms for xine-lib-extras-freeworld so lets see how this goes |
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| rzs19 | hello :) |
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| visama | Hi. I just istalled latest trinity to ubuntu 10.04 LTS and trying little konfigure that. |
| visama | I try change KDM settings in kcontrol and it says that my sudo password is wrong. |
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| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr changed the Status on bug 683 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=683 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, FTBFS with libpng15 |
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| not-a-turkey | samelian: I tested it out, works well (its mutantturkey btw) |
| samelian | hehe, ok |
| samelian | suspend and hiberante working as well, I guess |
| not-a-turkey | I have a question |
| not-a-turkey | what does your library do? |
| not-a-turkey | it is a dbus wrapper basically? |
| samelian | no libraries at all, except tqt-dbus |
| not-a-turkey | but it is a library? |
| samelian | who? |
| samelian | tqt-dbus? |
| not-a-turkey | libtdehw |
| samelian | ah |
| not-a-turkey | but that just implements UPower right? |
| samelian | for now, yes |
| not-a-turkey | my question is: why dontwe just use the upower directly? |
| samelian | I intent to implement in it everything related to hardware |
| samelian | directly how? |
| samelian | however, I will need to use libudev either, because upower do not provide informations about cpu, governors, temperatures, fans |
| not-a-turkey | okay |
| not-a-turkey | directly by calling upower over d-bus |
| samelian | i'm not sure that is possible |
| samelian | also, I dislike to call directly a privileged process |
| not-a-turkey | it is possible |
| not-a-turkey | quite easy afaik |
| not-a-turkey | http://upower.freedesktop.org/docs/UPower.html |
| samelian | nope, is not |
| samelian | this is actually dbus specs |
| samelian | not functions to call |
| rzs19 | cu later :) |
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| not-a-turkey | samelian: so you think that you'll be done for r14? |
| not-a-turkey | you seem to be making awesome progress |
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| samelian | not-a-turkey: yes, probably will be done |
| samelian | now I'm trying to create an applet |
| not-a-turkey | awesome :) |
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| not-a-turkey | that will replace kpowersave? |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 281 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=281 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, many irrelevant items under kickoff computer tab |
| samelian | not-a-turkey: sort of |
| samelian | I tink will be named Power Manager |
| samelian | to be consistent with Network Manager |
| samelian | Device Manager, etc |
| samelian | Disk Manager or Storage Manager and so on |
| samelian | we will have a lot of managers :) |
| not-a-turkey | right |
| not-a-turkey | one fore each area |
| not-a-turkey | that is good |
| samelian | also, I will develop some kcontrol module |
| samelian | which will control profiles/schemes |
| samelian | for example, governor and display brighness for AC and for battery |
| samelian | also, for battery low |
| not-a-turkey | right |
| not-a-turkey | then we wil ldrop kpowersave and klaptop daemon? |
| samelian | sure, will become obsolete :) |
| samelian | i'm not sure if suspend and hibernate should be connected to Power Manager |
| samelian | these options should be added in start button |
| samelian | separately, not under logout |
| samelian | because sleep is not logout |
| samelian | but a sort of freeze |
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| not-a-turkey | yes |
| not-a-turkey | most definitely |
| not-a-turkey | but sleep is currently under logout anyway |
| not-a-turkey | it makes sense |
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| not-a-turkey | samelian: I like to automatically sleep when my lid shuts |
| not-a-turkey | :) |
| not-a-turkey | is that posssible? |
| samelian | yes, I will handle acpi events either |
| not-a-turkey | also' |
| samelian | probably via libudev, i'm not sure |
| not-a-turkey | ok :) |
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| samelian | not-a-turkey: if you have spare time, try to add suspend and hibernate buttons to start menu |
| samelian | and will explain you how to connect it to tdehw |
| samelian | actually you can see in my demo that is very simple procedure |
| not-a-turkey | to the start menu? |
| samelian | yes |
| not-a-turkey | isn't it already connected to it? |
| not-a-turkey | under "logout" |
| not-a-turkey | I am actually working on implementing it for kicker >_> |
| samelian | i think is connected to hal |
| not-a-turkey | it is |
| samelian | but is not very intuitive to have Sleep under Logout |
| not-a-turkey | I agree |
| samelian | because is not exactly a logout |
| not-a-turkey | but i think it does "make sense" |
| samelian | forced a little, yes |
| samelian | but unintuitive |
| not-a-turkey | but I understand what you mean |
| not-a-turkey | right |
| not-a-turkey | on kickoff this is not an issue |
| not-a-turkey | there is a "leave |
| not-a-turkey | tab |
| not-a-turkey | and that will contain the sleep/hibernate commands |
| samelian | but sleep is not leave neither :) |
| samelian | is just suspend |
| samelian | you do not leave anything |
| not-a-turkey | I agree |
| not-a-turkey | have you used kickoff? |
| not-a-turkey | it had a "Leave" not a logout tab. |
| samelian | nope, I hate it :) |
| not-a-turkey | I am indifferent |
| not-a-turkey | the source is not terrible as tim says, and people use it. |
| not-a-turkey | I want trinity to be good and stable |
| not-a-turkey | so I think if we are going to provide it, it needs to be very good |
| samelian | sure, for this we need to made some changes under the hood |
| samelian | I think a new power management system will be a huge step forward |
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| gcsimon | hi guys |
| not-a-turkey | hey dude |
| not-a-turkey | samelian: right |
| not-a-turkey | A unified library and interface is the first step |
| not-a-turkey | then converting everything away from hal to the interface |
| gcsimon | i'm curryently trying to make 32bit TZDE work with 64bit inodes. has anybody tried something like that before? |
| gcsimon | TDE* |
| samelian | this unifying should be done carefully, to not become a mess like HAL |
| gcsimon | as far as i can see, one just have to change all stat() calls into stat64(), as well as struct stat into struct stat64 |
| not-a-turkey | samelian: agreed. |
| not-a-turkey | gcsimon: that make sense |
| not-a-turkey | this is over nfs right? |
| gcsimon | can i simply do this? (find & replace), or are there any special thing i need to watch out for? (like API stuff and so) |
| not-a-turkey | gcsimon: is this over nfs |
| not-a-turkey | because I think i found a solution |
| not-a-turkey | http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-nfs/msg15061.html |
| not-a-turkey | check that out |
| gcsimon | not-a-turkey: that too, but even without NFS, the 8TiB master file-system will still use 64bit inodes |
| gcsimon | not-a-turkey: hey. that sounds good. |
| gcsimon | not-a-turkey: many thanks, i will try this. this might be the solution i have been looking for ;-) |
| not-a-turkey | :-) |
| not-a-turkey | yep |
| gcsimon | brb, testing that new 32bit inode over NFS stuff.... |
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| not-a-turkey | hehe |
| not-a-turkey | i just searched 64bit inode on 32bit |
| not-a-turkey | came up first thing >_> |
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| not-a-turkey | gcsimon: ? |
| gcsimon | not-a-turkey: still trying (needed the URL again) ;-) |
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| not-a-turkey | http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-nfs/msg15061.html |
| not-a-turkey | its mutantturkey btw:P |
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| gcsimon | not-a-turkey: wuhuuu! it works! |
| gcsimon | not-a-turkey: kate can open files again - now i can fully utilize my x86 boxes again |
| not-a-turkey | no problem buddy :) |
| gcsimon | anyway i will try building TDE with 64bit indoe support (think it's a good feature to have). maybe it's enough if i pass -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 to cmake? |
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| MutantTurkey | gcsimon: didn't that fix te problem? |
| gcsimon | MutantTurkey: it did! the x86 box behaves like there were no 64bit inodes. still, this only works for NFS. this wouldn't work on my server, sice he can directly access the XFS filesystem. not that it would be a problem on the server, since it is a 64bit machine. so for me the case is solved. but other might run into the same problem, and 64bit indoes is the future |
| MutantTurkey | okay :P |
| MutantTurkey | how does it access it over the network directly? |
| gcsimon | the server hosts the XFS volume |
| gcsimon | no need for network |
| MutantTurkey | how does it access it |
| MutantTurkey | confused. |
| gcsimon | mount -t xfs /dev/xvde /mnt/data -o inode64,rw,async, <stuff for RAID5 tuning> |
| gcsimon | the server has no troubles at all. he can work nativly with 64bit inodes |
| gcsimon | MutantTurkey: now i can finally begin to deplay these boxes. you can't imaging what trouble this simple option saved me |
| gcsimon | deploy* |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | no problem |
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| MutantTurkey | apparently we can make a chart with bugzilla! |
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| Strangelv | "Where's the chart? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 685 filed by cnfourt@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=685 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, trinity-repo-3.5.13-2.el6.opt.noarch setup incorrect repo for RHEL 6. |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
| gcsimon | hiya |
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| Nicekiwi | how do I get Trinity to work on ubuntu 11.10? |
| Nicekiwi | ive added the PPAs and installed the packages, selected KDM Greeter as the greeter? but it still loads LightDM and gives no options to load Trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 686 filed by tiagomnm@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=686 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Screen doesn't lock with Kickoff/KMenu open |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 687 filed by tiagomnm@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=687 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Keyboard controls for mute/unmute don't work sometimes |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Component on bug 660 from kdegames to system. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=660 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, There are no Help files (Handbook) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 688 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=688 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDE won't start the first time with Nvidia proprietary drivers installed |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 689 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=689 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kate: Warn about files modified by foreign processes |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 690 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=690 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdm_greet uses too much CPU |
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| raevyn | Hello are there others on? |
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| Mias | ya |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 691 filed by bromichaelhenry@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=691 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kio-sword |
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| rzs19_ | good morning :) |
| TokRa | mornings are never good :) |
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| lente | Hi there. I have Debian 6 on my laptop and installed trinity. Unfortunatly kdm-trinity doesnt start up well. I have to restart the daemon, to see the login window. After logging in, I just see (the) konsole. |
| lente | Does anyone have suggestions how I can search the cause? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 692 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=692 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kate: focus is broken when using the --use parameter |
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| same | Xu_R: here? |
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| Xu_R | same: yes, now |
| Xu_R | ah, damnit. |
| Xu_R | >_> |
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| same | Xu_R: you want to test kpowersave replacement? |
| Xu_R | same: not right now, my system is all screwed up, and I don't want to lose my dev work again ;_; |
| same | hehe |
| same | it's separately |
| same | cmake based |
| same | i made a kicker applet |
| Xu_R | is it like a patch? |
| same | nope, standalone |
| Xu_R | o. lemme get kdelibs and kdebase fixed first ;) |
| same | will be integrated in tdelibs when git will be available |
| Xu_R | awesome :D |
| same | wget www.thel.ro/tdelibs.tar.gz |
| same | at this moment is implemented only things provided by upower |
| same | suspend, hibernate, battery status |
| same | but is HAL free :) |
| Xu_R | oh, it's a tdelibs tarball? |
| same | Xu_R: no :) |
| same | it just imitate it |
| Xu_R | oh >_>;; |
| same | it have 100k |
| Xu_R | oic. |
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| * rzs19 is installing trinity on arm(iomega iconnect) | |
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| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 1 day, 12 hours, 48 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> hey |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 693 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=693 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KFind: add a maxdepth option |
| * rzs19 is running TDE on iomega iconnect and atm it needs just 72 mb ram, running konqueror and kopete :) | |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 694 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=694 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Branding: All Help/Handbook files still reference KDE |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 695 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=695 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdenetwork 3.5.13, several FTBFS in kopete (rhel/fedora) |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 695 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| * Strangelv finalyl things to connect to a MOO with Konversation and wonders how he might structure a feature request to work around the unintented features | |
| Strangelv | Looks like supporting some non-IRC environments should be pretty easy -- easier than, say, grabbing the older and more feature-rich version of Gnome MUD and adapting it to TQt |
| * Strangelv wonders if it could also be easily adapted for use as a TELNET client. He knows it's easy touse TELNET for an improvised MOO client | |
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| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: ola compadre |
| MutantTurkey | hello senyoor |
| MutantTurkey | whats up? |
| Strangelv | "We'er in yfor possible techinical hiccups |
| Strangelv | "with IRC |
| Strangelv | "I've successfurlyl tested using Konversation with a MUD, with some messiness that might be a lot easier to address than adapting GONEM MUD would be |
| MutantTurkey | What are you talking about? |
| Strangelv | We don't have a deticated MUD client likie Gnome does |
| Strangelv | Konversation might be easily adapted to support MUDs |
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| MutantTurkey | weekend job: http://twitpic.com/7kx0xq |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: ^ |
| Xu_R | >_> |
| MutantTurkey | pretty fun |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 696 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=696 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt3: Q_EXPORT macro and gcc's -fvisibility |
| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr changed the Status on bug 696 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| KingSphinx | I've discovered that, while the base of Debian might be rock-solid, higher-up stuff like desktops and applications do have an annoying tendency to break in Debian Testing. |
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| MutantTurkey | wish we had some hard facts on qt3 vs qt4 |
| MutantTurkey | I think I am going to do some benchmarks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 697 filed by plaws@ou.edu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=697 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, print wizard missing drivers, postscript Ubuntu/NATTY |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 698 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=698 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kopete jabber protocol outdated |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 699 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=699 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror file manager: very slow to list large directories |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 662 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=662 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, KDE Groupware Wizard |
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| Borg^Queen | bbl people, have to check on a neighbour |
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| tekkidd | anyone on i need some help |
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| BQ-AFK | gn to all |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 700 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=700 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdenetwork: ftbfs with -DBUILD_KOPETE_PROTOCOL_JABBER=ON |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 700 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 701 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=701 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdepim ftbfs with -DWITH_CALDAV or -DWITH_CARDDAV cmake options |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 701 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 702 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=702 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, konqueror: in the file properties window, text isn't selectable |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 244 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=244 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Kate: Restore ability to specify the number of files in the Most Recently Used list |
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| Xu_R | w00t, patches galore! :3 |
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| Borg^Queen | gn |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 388 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=388 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, KDESU Dialog Box Behavior |
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| KingSphinx | Dunno if it's just me, but is the Fedora 16 build of Trinity "bug-fixed", so to speak? The only bug I experienced when testing the live CD was Kopete not having any services to register/use, then crashing, but other than that, it seemed pretty solid. Even recognized/used my USB headset immediately, which is actually a first. |
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| MobileTurkey | wish kbugbuster was better :P |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 612 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=612 normal, P1, ---, mutantturkey, PATCHAVAIL, KPersonalizer Branding Issue |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 200 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=200 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Konqueror will not scroll down when in "File Management" + "Icon View" mode |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 622 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=622 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, K3B Branding Issue |
| MobileTurkey | laying the smackdown on bugs. |
| MobileTurkey | like boss. |
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| damiano | hey people |
| MobileTurkey | sup |
| MobileTurkey | doode |
| damiano | how's the latest build doing? :) |
| MobileTurkey | good :) |
| damiano | that's great.. |
| damiano | cause i'm expecting a stable version once in a lifetime |
| damiano | .12 was ok... .13 has klauncher issue. |
| MobileTurkey | does it? |
| MobileTurkey | what is the issue? |
| MobileTurkey | damiano: next release, R14 is a stability release |
| damiano | COOL!! |
| MobileTurkey | meaning a major focus on bugfixes and backend improvements |
| damiano | that'd be great. |
| damiano | i'm just tired of gnome already... |
| damiano | kde is the only thing i love |
| MobileTurkey | the last release had a lot of underlying changes in our build system and other things |
| MobileTurkey | but can you report the klauncher issue in the bug tracker? I can take a look at it today |
| damiano | well... i can't quite remember... it keeps saying after a while "Klauncher cannot call DCOP" or something like that |
| damiano | let me try.. |
| MobileTurkey | :-) |
| damiano | show me where can i report it |
| damiano | ah... found it |
| MobileTurkey | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org |
| MobileTurkey | the more information the better. |
| MobileTurkey | that is crucial |
| damiano | yep.. i'm there.. |
| MobileTurkey | a "klauncher won't work" is to vague for any help |
| damiano | i know. |
| damiano | it's not the way i wanted to put it anyway. |
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| MadEchidna | hey so what's the deal with ubuntu support for trinity |
| MadEchidna | just followed the instructions on the site and it's like, trying to uninstall sudo for no apparent reason |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| MobileTurkey | MadEchidna: Basically sudo is borked because it has hardcoded paths. |
| MadEchidna | >_> |
| MadEchidna | so how do I install this then? |
| MobileTurkey | right, so we provide a trinity-sudo |
| MadEchidna | I've been trying to install this since they featured it on OS news months ago and this is getting kind of silly :( |
| MobileTurkey | which is just upstream sudo with an added path. |
| MobileTurkey | :-( you should just go ahead AFAIK |
| MadEchidna | well dpkg is failing because it "refuses" to remove sudo |
| MobileTurkey | uninstall sudo, then install trinity. |
| MadEchidna | oh I need to l2r |
| MadEchidna | it says i need to set a root password or else it won't do it |
| MobileTurkey | set a root passwrod |
| MadEchidna | if this breaks my system I'm going to be reallyl sad |
| MobileTurkey | so you can use su |
| MobileTurkey | exactly, so set a root password so if you uninstall sudo, you can just reinstall it with root privedges using su |
| MobileTurkey | su basically will drop you into a root shell |
| MadEchidna | yeah I'm familiar with su |
| MobileTurkey | but as far as I know while installing trinity, trinity's sudo package should get called in |
| MadEchidna | I'm going ahead with the install, with butterflies in my stomach |
| MobileTurkey | :D |
| MobileTurkey | that's the fun right? |
| MobileTurkey | luckily I am around :P |
| MobileTurkey | the trinity package is called sudo-trinity |
| MadEchidna | Cannot load module /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/*.so: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/*.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| MadEchidna | /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/*.so does not export GTK+ IM module API: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/*.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| MadEchidna | >_> |
| MadEchidna | it's still going, but that's kinda scary |
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| MutantTurkey | dang |
| MutantTurkey | wifi sucks >_> |
| damiano | submitted |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 703 filed by Mazzarot@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=703 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KLauncher/DCOP issue persists a while after installation |
| damiano | yep, that's me. |
| damiano | i've done my best man. |
| damiano | and also... i have to fill out another issue... TDE doesn't open some meada |
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| damiano | media* |
| damiano | which is troubled even on Gnome... it hangs the system up.. but then it opens up disks anyway.. |
| damiano | on TDE it doesn't ever open it. |
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| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | did anyone see MadEchidna? |
| KingSphinx | I find it odd that the Fedora build of TDE is less bug-ridden than the Ubuntu one... and no, I haven't. |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: wanna check my new brand power manager applet? :) |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: yes yes yes! |
| samelian | hang on |
| samelian | wget www.thel.ro/tdelibs.tar.gz |
| samelian | you will need to install it, because is kicker applet |
| samelian | and don't be too enthusiastic yet, the applet implement just features provided by upower |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | how do I build it/ |
| MutantTurkey | mkdir build, cd build cmake ../ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| samelian | yes |
| samelian | as usual |
| MutantTurkey | gives error |
| samelian | what kind of error? |
| MutantTurkey | unknow command cannot find add_tde_executable |
| samelian | aa |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| samelian | you need to run cmake from top of sources |
| samelian | from tdelibs |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | excellent |
| samelian | built? |
| MutantTurkey | kcfg-enable was not declared in this scope |
| samelian | bleah |
| MutantTurkey | /home/calvin/tdelibs/build/tdehw/PowerManager/src/PrefsTooltip.ui.h: In member function ‘void PrefsTooltip::init()’: |
| MutantTurkey | /home/calvin/tdelibs/build/tdehw/PowerManager/src/PrefsTooltip.ui.h:3:13: error: ‘kcfg_enable’ was not declared in this scope |
| MutantTurkey | make[2]: *** [tdehw/PowerManager/src/CMakeFiles/PowerManagerApplet-module.dir/PrefsTooltip.cpp.o] Error 1 |
| samelian | hang on |
| samelian | I think designer was overwrited my header |
| samelian | download it again |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | how to install? |
| samelian | make install |
| samelian | but wait |
| samelian | you passed to cmake prefix parameter? |
| MutantTurkey | no but I will |
| samelian | ok, do it |
| samelian | because otherwise kicker will not see it |
| MutantTurkey | okay it is good |
| MutantTurkey | now here is my problem or suggestion |
| MutantTurkey | make it like kpowermanager |
| samelian | hit me :) |
| MutantTurkey | hover is not so good because i have to wait over it |
| MutantTurkey | and it disappears |
| MutantTurkey | maybe not |
| MutantTurkey | but I did like how kpowersave has a pretty window |
| MutantTurkey | but other than that I like it. |
| samelian | i'm not sure that I understand |
| MutantTurkey | do you know kpowersave? |
| samelian | you mean, the tooltip? |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | yes. |
| MutantTurkey | kpowersave has a large window that pops up with easy to see visuals |
| MutantTurkey | I dont know if that is hard to implement or whatever |
| MutantTurkey | I do like this though |
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| samelian | when you click the icon? |
| samelian | make a screenshot of what windows you want |
| MutantTurkey | whoops sarry |
| MutantTurkey | yes I do like it :) |
| MutantTurkey | I sort of like the tooltip now |
| samelian | actually, the preferences are already implemented, you can customize your tooltip |
| MutantTurkey | yes I see that. |
| MutantTurkey | "Please report bugs to submit@bugs.kde.org. " |
| MutantTurkey | what is that? |
| samelian | I think is somewhere in tde libraries |
| samelian | should be fixed |
| MutantTurkey | OK |
| MutantTurkey | I will find it and create a patch :-) |
| samelian | good :) |
| MutantTurkey | is that a premade widgit? |
| MutantTurkey | or standard class? |
| samelian | yes, hang on |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| samelian | KAboutData or KAboutApplication |
| MutantTurkey | ok :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 704 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=704 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, About dialog has incorrect link for bug tracker |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: you very fast :) |
| MutantTurkey | :-) fixed. |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 704 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| MutantTurkey | boring economics class :P |
| samelian | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: so you plan to implement a few other applets? |
| MutantTurkey | should they be applets? |
| MutantTurkey | no independent applications? |
| samelian | I think yes, will become part of tde |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| samelian | in this applet we will have a lot features |
| MutantTurkey | but like kpowersave and klaptopdaemon are separeate appications |
| MutantTurkey | there are just applets |
| MutantTurkey | do you think one is better than the other? |
| samelian | applet should be enough |
| MutantTurkey | OK |
| MutantTurkey | also a DiskManager? |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | what else? |
| samelian | network manager |
| MutantTurkey | also they should all have a standard interface. |
| samelian | ofc |
| MutantTurkey | network manager is on NetworkManager though correct? |
| samelian | sure |
| samelian | actually these should be implemented as tde services |
| samelian | and applets should be just interfaces to tde services |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| samelian | for example, power management should work even if applet is not loaded |
| samelian | but these will be implemented sometime in future |
| samelian | the architecture will be like this: |
| samelian | Power Manager Appler -> Power Manager Service -> D-Bus -> upower |
| samelian | or |
| samelian | Power Manager Appler -> dcop -> Power Manager Service -> D-Bus -> upower |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | seems bloaty.... |
| MutantTurkey | but ok :-) |
| samelian | actually is not |
| MutantTurkey | is power manager currently a server? |
| samelian | the applet will be very thin |
| samelian | no, at this moment the applet communicate directly upower, via dbus |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | so an interface to an interface to the applet? |
| samelian | sort of |
| samelian | actually upower cannot be reached otherwise than dbus |
| samelian | sorry for english, I try to express complicate things trough my poor english knowledge :) |
| samelian | my english interface should be improved :) |
| samelian | however, at this moment we need testing this applet very well |
| samelian | so, if you want, you can post a message to devel@ to invite people to test it and make suggestions or bug reports |
| MutantTurkey | right it is okay |
| MutantTurkey | this apllet it working 100% |
| MutantTurkey | let me test suspend |
| MutantTurkey | works :-) |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: works well |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: well another thing - what about power managment? |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: it working? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: yes |
| MutantTurkey | what about power managerment? |
| MutantTurkey | like picking power states? |
| samelian | i need to implement a interface to cpufreq |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | also what about a shutdown thing/ |
| MutantTurkey | or its not related |
| MutantTurkey | nevermind that |
| MutantTurkey | okay still good job! :) |
| samelian | I think is not related |
| MutantTurkey | gotta go |
| MutantTurkey | class is up |
| samelian | I will implement some interfaces to get cpu control, governors, temperatures, fans, etc |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: so I am really excited about your project |
| samelian | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | also the kpowersave icons are terrible :X |
| samelian | i'm not very enthusiastic, because I need to start ucpufreq project, and should be written with glib |
| samelian | the alternative is to access directly /sys interface, and needs sudo or suid binaries |
| MutantTurkey | glib? |
| MutantTurkey | that is not good |
| samelian | seems ok, because have dbus support builtin |
| samelian | I preffer qt, but qt3 cannot be run without GUI |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: glib as in the gnome libraries? |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: what do you mean? seriously? |
| samelian | about what? |
| MutantTurkey | and why do you need those libraries? why not interface with dbus directly |
| MutantTurkey | about needing a gui for qt |
| MutantTurkey | libdbus? |
| samelian | because dbus is just a... bus |
| samelian | we need an server and a client |
| samelian | dbus just expose server's methods and signals |
| MutantTurkey | and qt3 is no go? |
| MutantTurkey | can't you just create an empty hidden window? |
| MutantTurkey | that is one thing about gtk and gdk and glib they are all seperate |
| MutantTurkey | that is nice |
| samelian | the server should ran as daemon, under root privileges |
| MutantTurkey | which server and why does it need root privedleges? |
| MutantTurkey | this daemon already exists afiak |
| samelian | you cannot change cpu frequency or governor as root |
| samelian | as user* |
| MutantTurkey | cpufreqd |
| samelian | is what we need |
| samelian | is not* |
| samelian | a need a way to access cpufreq interface as user |
| MutantTurkey | okay right |
| MutantTurkey | so the daemon already exists though |
| MutantTurkey | cpufreqd |
| MutantTurkey | right? |
| samelian | yes |
| samelian | but |
| samelian | cpufreq cannot be controlled by user |
| MutantTurkey | it should not be.... should it? |
| MutantTurkey | (how does kpowersave do it?) |
| samelian | ofc it should |
| samelian | kpowersave do it via HAL |
| samelian | for example, you want to change the governor |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| samelian | how you will tell to cpufreqd to do this? |
| MutantTurkey | does udev/upower daemons provide for this? |
| samelian | nope, is not his job |
| samelian | and so far no one implemented a ucpufreq :) |
| MutantTurkey | a userspace cpufreq |
| MutantTurkey | right, next question |
| MutantTurkey | Why should the user be able to do this? |
| MutantTurkey | there is a reason why regular users cannot do this correct? |
| samelian | yes, because security reasons |
| MutantTurkey | basically you are curcumventing this by creating a privledged daemon and interacting with it |
| samelian | yes, like upower |
| MutantTurkey | so doesn't you ucpufreq make that a potential security concern? |
| samelian | nope, because dbus have a security infrastructure |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| samelian | for example, check /etc/dbus-1/system.d/knetworkmanager.conf |
| samelian | as user you cannot setup an ip, right? |
| samelian | but using NM, with properly configured dbus, you can |
| MutantTurkey | right I understand that |
| MutantTurkey | but that seems illogical |
| MutantTurkey | if a user can do anything, thentheir is no security! |
| samelian | dbus stay like a guardian between user and system |
| samelian | not exactly anything |
| samelian | knetworkmanager.conf is configured by root |
| MutantTurkey | basically you are enabling a unprivledged user modify root-access only commands |
| samelian | sort of, for limited set of features |
| MutantTurkey | so whoever controls that config file can allow it only to change the userspace governer? |
| samelian | yes |
| samelian | is like sudo wthout password |
| samelian | suided executable can do the same job, but is harder to ensure granular security |
| samelian | the problem is that I hate plain-C :) |
| MutantTurkey | I love C |
| MutantTurkey | I am a C programmer |
| MutantTurkey | do you want me to implement it :-P |
| MutantTurkey | I also am familiar with glib (written quite a few gtk based applicaitons) |
| samelian | hehe, you need to understand very deep dbus stuff |
| MutantTurkey | I find C to be far superior to C++ |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: if you're so sure... I mean glib makes dbus easy for interation |
| samelian | yes, for this reason is my first choice |
| samelian | I think upower is implemented with glib either |
| MutantTurkey | so you need a server for cpufrequtils in C that runs as root |
| MutantTurkey | also, not either |
| samelian | haha |
| samelian | why not either? |
| MutantTurkey | either? incorrect |
| samelian | explain |
| MutantTurkey | either is like an if statement. |
| MutantTurkey | either A or B |
| MutantTurkey | also means and |
| MutantTurkey | A and B |
| MutantTurkey | it's A |
| MutantTurkey | it's B also |
| MutantTurkey | it's either A or it's B. not both |
| MutantTurkey | make sense? |
| samelian | not really, it's too subtile :) |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | it's like a programming statement |
| samelian | translated to romanian, have a lot variants, I have no ideea how to choose the correct one |
| samelian | i need a romanian to explain me :) |
| samelian | however, I will avoid "either" :) |
| MutantTurkey | either is this: (X = A && X !=B) or (X !=A && X=B) |
| samelian | tell me a sentence with "either" and another with "neither" |
| samelian | i think a consider either somehow oposite to neither |
| MutantTurkey | neither means NOT either |
| MutantTurkey | I think the word is nici |
| samelian | haha |
| MutantTurkey | no? |
| samelian | in romanian, "either" and "neither" can be translated "nici", both |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | neither is just !either |
| MutantTurkey | is not either |
| MutantTurkey | think programming :-P |
| samelian | tell me a sentence with correct use of "either" |
| MutantTurkey | either is like a BOOL |
| MutantTurkey | it can only be one or the other |
| MutantTurkey | and Neither just means, it's not 1 or 2 |
| MutantTurkey | it |
| MutantTurkey | it's none of those |
| MutantTurkey | either I will go to see a film, or I will attend the opera. |
| MutantTurkey | either is always used with or |
| MutantTurkey | so either X or Y, or if not any of those, neither X nor Y |
| samelian | i think it cannot be translated direct to Romanian, for this reason I cannot catch it :) |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| MutantTurkey | stick to also :P |
| samelian | ok :) |
| MutantTurkey | use either when you need to say OR |
| samelian | in this case I cannot use "or"? |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | maybe you try and example and I will tell you if you are correct |
| samelian | hehe, at this moment I'm too confused :) |
| MutantTurkey | nevermind :P |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to make new svg's for the kpoewrsave icon >_> |
| MutantTurkey | they bug me |
| samelian | good |
| MutantTurkey | are those the icons you are using? |
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| rzs19_ | hello |
| samelian | which one? |
| MutantTurkey | for your applet |
| MutantTurkey | what icons do you use? |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19_: hey dude |
| samelian | yes, I stoled it from kpowersave |
| MutantTurkey | I am sure there is a standard icon name we should use though.. |
| MutantTurkey | .maybe not |
| rzs19_ | MutantTurkey: hey :) |
| MutantTurkey | oh I see one. |
| MutantTurkey | "battery" then "battery low" then "battery caution" |
| MutantTurkey | as defined by the icon naming spec |
| MutantTurkey | should we use those? |
| MutantTurkey | that'd be more according to the Icon spec... |
| samelian | I think low level warning can be symbolized with different background |
| MutantTurkey | blech |
| MutantTurkey | a flashing red icon bothers me... |
| samelian | yes, but is very usefull :) |
| MutantTurkey | when it's less than 10%.. |
| MutantTurkey | not for me, less than 10% is typicall over an hour left. |
| samelian | because on low battery you should halt your laptop :) |
| MutantTurkey | an hour of life is a long annoying time frame |
| MutantTurkey | should be an option |
| MutantTurkey | definite should be an option |
| MutantTurkey | to disable. |
| MutantTurkey | when it is critical it sohuld just appear empty |
| samelian | we have "time to empty" property |
| MutantTurkey | [===]- [== ]- [= ]- [ ]- |
| MutantTurkey | badly drawn ASCII batterys |
| MutantTurkey | but empty when critical |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno, maybe it's good |
| MutantTurkey | time to empty? |
| samelian | we can starting flashing when time to empty is >= 5 min |
| MutantTurkey | that'd be better |
| MutantTurkey | probably warnings |
| MutantTurkey | 30 minuts, 15 minutes 5 minutes |
| MutantTurkey | thats how I think Win does it |
| MutantTurkey | i like that. |
| samelian | this will be programmable anyway, in preferences |
| samelian | I mean, the thresholds |
| MutantTurkey | the reaason I do not like tooltip hover is that it doesnt always work |
| samelian | this is qt problem |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| samelian | maybe I should replace it with a widget |
| samelian | without borders |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | like the calander maybe? |
| samelian | nope, it needs to be closed manually |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | mine is windowless though |
| MutantTurkey | we should change that IMO |
| MutantTurkey | everything on the panel should close whne you click away. |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | same as any menu |
| samelian | i think this can be implemented like the big tooltips which appear when you hover kicker icons |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | so hover and it pops up? |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | or just make is close when the focus is away form the window |
| MutantTurkey | when the window loses focus, lose it |
| samelian | which capacity it shows on your computer? |
| MutantTurkey | 92% |
| samelian | upower specs tells that under 75% yout battery dying |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
| MutantTurkey | my battery is already at 92% and I have had for only a few months |
| MutantTurkey | I think I am going to get it returned |
| samelian | my battery is 72%, and I replaced it few months ago :) |
| samelian | chinese crap :) |
| rzs19_ | chinese foood and then? |
| samelian | no, battery :) |
| rzs19_ | and then? |
| samelian | then what? |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: you have hotplug battery, I will need a info |
| samelian | try to remove the battery and show the output of |
| rzs19_ | samelian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRN9zj7WLR0&feature=related AND THEEEN? :D |
| samelian | dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0 org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.GetAll string:org.freedesktop.UPower.Device |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: mine is Thinkpad though |
| MutantTurkey | I'd hope they'd be better |
| MutantTurkey | either way I need it replaced, the battery is VERY loose |
| samelian | rzs19_: haha, nice |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: some problems alreday |
| MutantTurkey | It doesn't refresh while hovering |
| samelian | you mean, if tooltip is displayed, and you plug/unplug the AC adapter, for example? |
| MutantTurkey | so if i unplug the charger while showing the tooltip, it doesn't update |
| MutantTurkey | i have to rehover |
| samelian | yes, this is known bug :) |
| MutantTurkey | hovering is annoying >_> |
| MutantTurkey | i'd rather just click |
| samelian | a tooltip cannot be refreshing while is displayed |
| MutantTurkey | anyway gonna reboot |
| MutantTurkey | brb |
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| MutantTurkey | kicker crashed twice already. |
| MutantTurkey | getting a backgrace now |
| samelian | ok |
| MutantTurkey | this is with no battery plugged in |
| samelian | aha, this case is not handled |
| MutantTurkey | http://pastebin.com/zQmxTHCT |
| samelian | please show me the output of |
| MutantTurkey | indeed. |
| samelian | dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0 |
| samelian | when the battery is removed |
| MutantTurkey | while |
| samelian | while, right :) |
| MutantTurkey | hmm that command is correct |
| MutantTurkey | is incorrect |
| samelian | you receive an error? |
| MutantTurkey | it just gives me the help output |
| MutantTurkey | format must be incorrec |
| samelian | ah, you right |
| samelian | hang on |
| samelian | try this |
| samelian | dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0 org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.GetAll string:org.freedesktop.UPower.Device |
| samelian | download thdelibs again, and check if is still crashing |
| samelian | after reinstall, just restart the kicker |
| samelian | dcop kicker default restart |
| MutantTurkey | okahy |
| MutantTurkey | sorry I was easting |
| MutantTurkey | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "GetAll" with signature "s" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: good, so the system don't even know about battery, while is removed |
| MutantTurkey | ok got the new build |
| MutantTurkey | you should really just start a git repository... |
| MutantTurkey | so Ican checkout your changes:P |
| samelian | yeah, i'm too lazy to use it :) |
| MutantTurkey | okay now it works |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: not good at all :P |
| MutantTurkey | just get the hang of it then it is helpful |
| MutantTurkey | eventually you'll commit this into the tde repo I assume? |
| samelian | yes, will be integrated into kdelibs/kdebase |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | no more crash :-) |
| samelian | nice |
| samelian | because I hope will be integrated into R14, it should be _very_ tested |
| MutantTurkey | It will be |
| MutantTurkey | I am certain :) |
| samelian | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | especially with your progress |
| MutantTurkey | as for stability, as long as everything is handled and upower does the rest we are OK |
| MutantTurkey | at least we should offer it in R14 |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | a whole set of new tools for hardware managerment - tdehw |
| samelian | hehe, we need alot work to do until be complete |
| samelian | now I'm fighting with glib |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 685 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=685 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, trinity-repo-3.5.13-2.el6.opt.noarch setup incorrect repo for RHEL 6. |
| MutantTurkey | another bug slain! |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: what problems :-) I love the gtk stack |
| samelian | hehe, i'm not familiar with glib API at all |
| MutantTurkey | it's a bit confusing |
| MutantTurkey | documatation is excellent |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: we need a real icon theme person >_> |
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| MutantTurkey | sup enderw |
| samelian | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | I think we should ditch crystal altogether |
| MutantTurkey | but we can't |
| samelian | I love crystal |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I guess it's preference |
| MutantTurkey | but we should rely much less on hard coded things like kpowersave providing it's own icons |
| MutantTurkey | there is a icon theme specification and we should follow that. |
| MutantTurkey | </rant> |
| samelian | yes, ofc |
| MutantTurkey | are you manually drawing in the power bar? |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | I see |
| MutantTurkey | i'd rather it be a simple power bar or something |
| MutantTurkey | dunno |
| MutantTurkey | doesnt look good with transparency |
| samelian | it can be changed, I guess |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | it's just a few stray pixels basically |
| MutantTurkey | amking the edges look rather rough |
| samelian | drawing is located in Applet.cpp |
| samelian | you can try to hack it |
| MutantTurkey | no the whole method is wrong |
| MutantTurkey | we should follow the spec |
| samelian | but how, we need to draw the bar |
| MutantTurkey | do we need to? |
| samelian | otherwise how can I represent the percentage? |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | I concur |
| samelian | we can try an imprecisely representation |
| samelian | with 5-6 icons |
| samelian | with different percentage |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | I like drawing it more than |
| MutantTurkey | I think drawing it is better |
| MutantTurkey | what about a brightness applet? |
| samelian | will be integrated in power manager also |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | gnome has a nice one |
| MutantTurkey | it is just a little sun icon and a slider pops up |
| MutantTurkey | http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-power-manager/stable/applets-general.html.en |
| samelian | I hope it working with xrandr, otherwise I will need to create one more daemon :) |
| samelian | is separated from power |
| samelian | I like kpowersave method, with scroll |
| samelian | mouse scroll |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: scroll is useless on a laptop most of the time |
| samelian | hehe, why? |
| MutantTurkey | because I have no scroll wheel. |
| samelian | you don't need it |
| MutantTurkey | I know |
| MutantTurkey | I have multi touch |
| MutantTurkey | but not everyone does |
| samelian | just set scroll zone on touchpad, that's all |
| MutantTurkey | so easy |
| MutantTurkey | especially with our advanced mouse configuration |
| samelian | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | it's so advanced it lets me set up stuff very easily |
| MutantTurkey | almost magic |
| samelian | we will find a solution |
| MutantTurkey | we need to work out the mutlitouch support I think |
| samelian | the problem is that I won't load my kicker with many applets |
| MutantTurkey | same here |
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| samelian | on the other hand, is hard to put many functions on same applet |
| MutantTurkey | maybe we just need on screen notifications |
| MutantTurkey | for brightness? |
| MutantTurkey | integrated like our volume manager? |
| samelian | actually an applet can be larger that 22 pixels |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| samelian | so, we can put more buttons on it |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | 22 pixels wide? |
| MutantTurkey | well |
| MutantTurkey | I dont want 500 icons either >_> |
| samelian | smaller icons |
| MutantTurkey | not a solution that is goo |
| MutantTurkey | why not icons that you can pick? |
| samelian | where? |
| MutantTurkey | in settings |
| samelian | on same applet? |
| MutantTurkey | all controlled by one applet |
| MutantTurkey | mutliple icons |
| samelian | aa, of course |
| samelian | every aspect of applet will be configurable, in many ways |
| samelian | as you saw, only for tooltip we have plenty options :) |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| MutantTurkey | well keep up good work |
| samelian | on tooltip we can display much more options, like cpu freq, governor, temperature, etc |
| MutantTurkey | will there be an applet for DiskManager? |
| samelian | yes, I think |
| MutantTurkey | I think we need a tooltip and a window |
| MutantTurkey | tooltip is for quick info |
| MutantTurkey | window is full stats |
| samelian | ofc, I will implement a dialog with all available info |
| MutantTurkey | I may like to hover just to see my battery % but when I click I want to see everything |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| samelian | for sure, me too |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: I am very happy now |
| MutantTurkey | this applet is great |
| samelian | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | once I can do cpufreq utils |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: what about just one daemon for everything? |
| MutantTurkey | or is that TOO messy? |
| samelian | yes, will become like hal |
| samelian | big and messy |
| MutantTurkey | I liked hal. |
| MutantTurkey | EVERYONE LIKED HAL. |
| samelian | more or less :) |
| MutantTurkey | the only people who didn't like it was the maintainers |
| MutantTurkey | it worked and worked well |
| MutantTurkey | honestly I didn't give a shit if it was messy. |
| MutantTurkey | because it worked with no trouble and everyone used it. |
| MutantTurkey | imho they should have done an internal rewrite while keeping the API |
| MutantTurkey | or have someone audit their code |
| samelian | i think is not good ideea to duplicate functions |
| samelian | too many things to maintain |
| * Strangelv notes that there's a rumor that the Fedora version may have some bug fixes | |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: of what? |
| MutantTurkey | what fixes specifically? |
| Strangelv | :: tries to scroll up to find it |
| MutantTurkey | many are available as patches on the tracker |
| MutantTurkey | I remember someone saying something |
| MutantTurkey | but what specifics |
| Strangelv | "I'm not sure taht there were any. Haevn't found it. Are teh patches from downstream? |
| samelian | aah, nice, I just discovered that I can create Qt3 app which run without gui |
| samelian | bye glib :) |
| * Strangelv : <KingSphinx> Dunno if it's just me, but is the Fedora 16 build of Trinity "bug-fixed", so to speak? The only bug I experienced when testing the live CD was Kopete not having any services to register/use, then crashing, but other than that, it seemed pretty solid. Even recognized/used my USB headset immediately, which is actually a first. | |
| * Strangelv claps about the dependancy solution even without knowing what it's for | |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: knew it |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: Kopete is a mess |
| samelian | kopete needs many improvements |
| samelian | I use it every day, and I hate its filetransfer support |
| Strangelv | :: can't even remember what it does. He doesn't use it |
| MutantTurkey | a messenger afaik |
| MutantTurkey | what we need is application developers :P |
| MutantTurkey | you know, 40-50 developers each working on a single part of trinity |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| samelian | actually, the big problem of kde is that it has reinvented the wheel |
| samelian | for example, kopete have its yahoo protocol implementation, instead using already existing one |
| samelian | like purple or libyahoo |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | libpurple is the way to go |
| MutantTurkey | 10)% |
| MutantTurkey | 100% |
| MutantTurkey | in fact a qt frontend to pidgin would be best |
| MutantTurkey | pidgin is AWESOME |
| MutantTurkey | they did it right |
| MutantTurkey | also purple is easy enough to work with |
| MutantTurkey | I think a purple qt app wouldn't be hard |
| MutantTurkey | I know one was already in beta |
| samelian | gn all |
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| MutantTurkey | night samelian |
| MutantTurkey | I also am going off for a while |
| rzs19_ | well... i'm happy with kopete... |
| rzs19_ | link handling in pidgin is a little bit wired |
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| MutantTurkey | rzs19_: that is just pidgin being dumb, the underlying library is awesome |
| MutantTurkey | imagine having a library that handles all interactions with the protocols |
| MutantTurkey | meaning your graphical app is just a frontend |
| MutantTurkey | meaning... it's awesome! |
| damiano | does anyone know how to enable software mixer in audacity?.. |
| damiano | so it wouldn't affect main mixer |
| damiano | thanks. |
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| MutantTurkey | damiano: whats up? |
| MutantTurkey | audiacity? |
| damiano | hey.. nevermind. |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| rzs19_ | MutantTurkey: okay :) |
| rzs19_ | well, seems that the obex daemon beginns slowly to work... |
| rzs19_ | i wish i had more time ... *sfz* |
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| rzs19_ | good night :) |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=705 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kconf_update --help creates $HOME/.trinity/share/config |
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| dotriver | I search some informations about change file associations |
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| KingSphinx | Guess who was dumb enough to accidentally format /home? *raises hand* Fortunately, a lot of the stuff I had was also on my Windows partition, so not all hope is lost. |
| MutantTurkey | that's terrible dude |
| KingSphinx | I dunno whether it was openSUSE's installer or me just being a bit distracted whilst reinstalling Ubuntu, but yeah. I'm actually not too worried though, my /home needed a good cleaning anyway. :P |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=707 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesktop_lock password entry does not function normally |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 708 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=708 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kde-guidance-trinity was built with debhelper templates that are incompatible with Squeeze |
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| MutantTurkey | sup damiano |
| damiano | hey MutantTurkey ... busy a bit.. trying to build Stardict.. no luck.. |
| MutantTurkey | star dict huh? |
| MutantTurkey | "StarDict hasn't seen any active development for many years, while the world around hasn't stood still. The following is the list of alternatives appeared during that time. You are advised to take a look and try them" |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: you should look at it's successor, I think called Golden Dict |
| damiano | i need StarDict for specific purposes.. |
| damiano | it has Google Translator thing |
| damiano | but it doesn't work |
| damiano | that's why i'm building it |
| damiano | Golden Dict has no shit.. |
| damiano | just some clone and not the best one |
| damiano | so basically without this feature all those dictionaries are just a buncha crap.. |
| damiano | i'd rather use some win one through wine instead.... |
| MutantTurkey | damiano: StarDict is long dead though.... |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 709 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=709 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, A proposed KDE3 profile directory migration tool |
| damiano | well.. then i have no dictionary for linux. |
| damiano | sounds ridiculous though.. |
| damiano | but that's how it is |
| MutantTurkey | google.com? |
| damiano | nah.. i don't wanna bother with that |
| damiano | takes too much time |
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| MutantTurkey | >_> |
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| rzs19_ | hello |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=710 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine-trinity should not install kdesudo-trinity, kpackage-trinity as recommends |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 711 filed by dzfixes-box1@yahoo.co.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=711 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, soundkonverter-trinity "recommends": uninstallable package and bloat |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 712 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=712 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt3: FTBFS: NIS support cannot be enabled (DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH not defined) |
| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr changed the Status on bug 712 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 713 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=713 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt3: libqt3-mt-ibase can be built on debian |
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| rzs19 | good morning |
| * rzs19 is reading dbus documentation, lightblue, bluez, obex specifcation, bluez-agent and gots insane... | |
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| MutantTurkey | SAT's on saturday, oh god @Xu_R |
| damiano | hey |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| damiano | wassup? |
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| MutantTurkey | not much |
| MutantTurkey | skipping school cause of a doctors appointment |
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| rzs19 | hey MutantTurkey :) |
| MutantTurkey | hey dyde |
| MutantTurkey | dude |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: implementing bluetooth is laborious... |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: i think: "hey lets take a highlevel bluetooth api, thats sooo easy" |
| rzs19 | but something like pairing, sending and recevi of keys is not implemented |
| rzs19 | so i need to read about dbus und bluez... |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | everything is implemented by bluez no? |
| rzs19 | yep, it is |
| samelian | rzs19: you should check my dbus implementation for upower |
| rzs19 | but i needto take dbus and if you got less time, than it takes long... |
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| rzs19 | i could talk with dbus, but i need to know more about dbus itself |
| samelian | rzs19: actually you need to know bluez dbus specifications |
| rzs19 | i need to read more about it :) |
| samelian | not dbus itself |
| rzs19 | first of all i need to understand dbus better and than i need the bluez specs |
| rzs19 | but i have so much todo at work, so i got not enough time to read about it. |
| samelian | I think you're too scaried :) |
| rzs19 | no i want understand what i'am doing and not try on error to get it work |
| rzs19 | one day has just to less hours, that is the problem |
| samelian | as I see, bluez dbus spec are pretty long |
| samelian | http://bluez.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bluez/utils/hcid/dbus-api.txt |
| samelian | first of all we need a tde wrapper over it |
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| rzs19 | first of all we need pink laser swords |
| samelian | hehe |
| samelian | ah, I hate xchat |
| samelian | is detaching from tray when i restart kicker |
| rzs19 | my daemon is working, but the bleutooth part of it is not done atm... |
| samelian | daemon for what? |
| samelian | you mean kded service? |
| rzs19 | i can access bluetooth devices over the network. |
| samelian | aa |
| rzs19 | so the hardware could be anyware, i could use it for discovery and obex ft. |
| rzs19 | i can us it in a vm, or container |
| samelian | i see |
| rzs19 | but the last tiem i had just some hours to read about bluez, dbus. |
| rzs19 | not much time :( |
| rzs19 | and i don't have used dbus before. |
| rzs19 | so this is my first time with dbus |
| samelian | hehe |
| rzs19 | i hope i can make this weekend :) |
| samelian | your daemon is based in qt3 or something else? |
| rzs19 | nope only the gui would use qt3 |
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| samelian | will be much harder to implement dbus interface in plain C or C+ |
| samelian | you will need a loop event, because you need to handle dbus events |
| rzs19 | i know... but i'm using python and there are some libaries i can use |
| samelian | aha |
| rzs19 | for event looping... |
| rzs19 | and there also dbus bindings :) |
| rzs19 | so and i need to go home, so see you later |
| samelian | see ya |
| MutantTurkey | python... |
| MutantTurkey | blech! |
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| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: doing a rebuild now. |
| MutantTurkey | Also I figured out the preload issue |
| MutantTurkey | of qt3 |
| schreiberstein | thx! :-) |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | will take some time to rebuild obviously |
| schreiberstein | yep... i'm ill. so take your time ;-) |
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| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein|a: still around? |
| MutantTurkey | someone better reply to Ilya Dogolazky hehe |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein|a: almost done my kdebase with no issues. |
| schreiberstein|a | cool! |
| schreiberstein|a | are you building it inside a "clean" environment, such as a vm or so. |
| schreiberstein|a | ? |
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| MutantTurkey | nope |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | I am lazy |
| MutantTurkey | my environment is basically clean though |
| MutantTurkey | only I say that because it's fresh |
| MutantTurkey | my ubuntu install is so dirty I couldnt even us the regular trinty sources |
| schreiberstein | :-D |
| MutantTurkey | I will reboot now though and then go into a vm next boot |
| schreiberstein | ok... see ya! |
| MutantTurkey | also tdelibs just built ok :p |
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| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: okay updating my VM rist |
| MutantTurkey | first |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: wb! |
| schreiberstein | ok |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | we are getting binary packages |
| MutantTurkey | in the next week or so probably |
| MutantTurkey | I have gotten an email back trom the people working on kdemod3 |
| schreiberstein | that's pretty cool! |
| schreiberstein | btw. i installed opensuse 12.1 last week. |
| schreiberstein | kde 3.5.10 is in their official repos |
| schreiberstein | :-) |
| schreiberstein | worked like a charme |
| schreiberstein | but i miss the arch stuff... |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: KDE:KDE3 Mod is not supported or endorsed by the Trinity project |
| schreiberstein | yeah i know. |
| schreiberstein | but kdemod3 rocks! :-D |
| MutantTurkey | I don't really know about it |
| MutantTurkey | what was/is it/ |
| MutantTurkey | now they can provide trinity, which is good |
| MutantTurkey | they need to start calling it kdemod3/Trinity though |
| schreiberstein | it's was a modulatr kde for archlinux |
| MutantTurkey | "modular" |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| schreiberstein | uhh yes... typo.. sorry |
| schreiberstein | arch's kde was just too "bloated" or so. i don'T know exactly |
| schreiberstein | i really hate the trinity rebranding... |
| schreiberstein | it's like GNU/Linux... |
| schreiberstein | kde just sounds nicer than tde.. |
| schreiberstein | (in my opiniion) |
| schreiberstein | -i |
| MutantTurkey | right... |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno |
| MutantTurkey | what do you mean GNU/Linux? |
| MutantTurkey | it should be GNU/Linux! |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: i'm stucked :) |
| samelian | i lost a whole day to make brightness control via xrandr |
| samelian | and is not usable actually |
| samelian | because xrandr is slow like a pig :) |
| samelian | 400ms to change the luminosity :| |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: ? an d now? |
| MutantTurkey | doesn't upower do that? |
| samelian | nope |
| MutantTurkey | I am almost sure xrandr shouldn't. |
| samelian | I think I will access directly acpi video |
| MutantTurkey | how does kpowersave do it? |
| MutantTurkey | hal? |
| samelian | yes |
| samelian | I discovered too later this post |
| samelian | http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg/2008-May/035007.html |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| samelian | is sux that hal has deprecated too early |
| MutantTurkey | i know |
| MutantTurkey | hal was good |
| MutantTurkey | its been deprecated for owver a yera |
| MutantTurkey | year' |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 714 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=714 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kio_man does not work under RHEL |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 714 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | did anyone see the new gnome browseR? |
| MutantTurkey | it doesn't even have options, nothing but a URL bar |
| MutantTurkey | LOLOL |
| MutantTurkey | tablets >_> |
| MutantTurkey | I don't get it though, there aren't any tablet distros are there? |
| MutantTurkey | or tablets for that matter |
| MutantTurkey | other than archos's ones |
| MutantTurkey | it's weird, I don't see there being a market for it |
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| jonathan1104 | hi everyone |
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| MutantTurkey | dang |
| MutantTurkey | I hate when someone is where and says hi and leaves |
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| xovan | hey there folks, has anyone successfully gotten trinity to compile on Slackware 64 13.37? |
| xovan | Or do you think it would be feasible to use the 32 bit compatibility libraries? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 715 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=715 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror toolbar toggles to web browsing when new tab is opened |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 716 filed by f_ii@email.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=716 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kinfocenter is blank - does not contain any categories in left pane |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 245 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=245 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror: Restore context menu options |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 335 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=335 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror Icon Activation Effect |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 717 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=717 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror provides no support or mechanism to change the tab close button location |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 638 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=638 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Potato Guy game can't find pictures |
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| Mias | hi |
| Mias | how to prevent kicker from starting? |
| Mias | already chmod a-x'ed it + moved it away.. |
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| rzs19 | where is amanda? |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 343 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=343 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Update Outdated Kaffeine |
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| samelian | Xu_R: here? |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 642 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=642 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Focus prevention option |
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| tbottu | 10f.couperin@online.fr changed the Status on bug 713 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=713 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, qt3: libqt3-mt-ibase can be built on debian |
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| dolan_kivert | hi |
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| mindspin | Hi, my network-settings are not being saved after editing in system settings. is this a known issue? |
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| rzs19 | TDE running on a Geode GX(400 MHz) |
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| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: hey dude :D |
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| MutantTurkey | working on a pulse backend for kmixe |
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| mindspin | Hi, my network-settings are not being saved after editing in system settings. is this a known issue? |
| rzs19 | are you alking about network manager? |
| mindspin | I changed the settings in system-settings/network |
| samelian | mindspin: are you sure that system-settings is not related to KDE4? |
| mindspin | nope |
| samelian | we haven't system-settings on trinity, as I remember |
| rzs19 | we have settings -> internet & network |
| mindspin | whatever, in /etc/network/interfaces the default gw is 10.10.10.1 |
| rzs19 | you need to explain more and what distri you are using |
| mindspin | in the system settings it is 1.10.10.10 |
| samelian | I'm pretty sure that trinity cannot change network settings at this time |
| mindspin | I can change it so the system works fine, but its not stored |
| mindspin | uname -r gives me 2.6.32-36-generic-pae |
| samelian | make a screenshot and show us where you changing these settings |
| mindspin | its german and its Systemeinstellungen->Netzwerkeinstellungen |
| mindspin | and the Help-<About button tells me its 3.5.13 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 719 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=719 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Koffice configure errors |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 720 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=720 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine DVB OSD is too small to read at higher resolutions |
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| KingSphinx | I considered installing Fedora/TDE, but the Live CD is 32-bit only. |
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| MutantTurkey | anyone use pulse here? |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: hehe, no one |
| MutantTurkey | I do |
| MutantTurkey | I am working on adding it to kmix as a backend |
| MutantTurkey | it's actually a simple and good API |
| MutantTurkey | and /does/ have advantages |
| samelian | I have no ideea what audiopulse do |
| MutantTurkey | pulseaudio... |
| samelian | whatever :) |
| MutantTurkey | It has a whole host of features that are good :-) |
| samelian | I use audio only for listening music, so I don't care too much about other features |
| MutantTurkey | Per application audio controls is what I am implementing with kmix though |
| MutantTurkey | but it has good stuff like equalization, plugin system and multi soundcard emulation |
| MutantTurkey | networking too |
| samelian | hehe, nice and useless features :) |
| samelian | at least for me |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: btw, I added backlight support to power manager applet |
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| MutantTurkey | how? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: ^ |
| MutantTurkey | also automake is terrible and annoying |
| MutantTurkey | wish kdemultimedia had cmake |
| samelian | yeah, should be finished |
| samelian | I asked on udev ML |
| samelian | and they adviced me to use xrande |
| samelian | xrandr |
| samelian | I caching some things and seems ok |
| MutantTurkey | ok thats good |
| MutantTurkey | are you interfacing with the randr library? |
| MutantTurkey | or just issuing an xrandr command? |
| samelian | library, ofc |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| MutantTurkey | is that ofc |
| MutantTurkey | ever hear of the unix philosophy? :-) |
| MutantTurkey | also automake is hell :x |
| samelian | almost every software which use external comands sux |
| samelian | see fish and sftp kioslaves |
| MutantTurkey | meh I disagree |
| MutantTurkey | you mean fish and sftp sucks |
| MutantTurkey | not the unix philosophy |
| MutantTurkey | that is why there is so much bloat in TDE KDE and GNOME |
| MutantTurkey | linking to 100000 libraries for one function each. |
| MutantTurkey | better served by calling xrandr |
| MutantTurkey | I digress |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: linking with a library is much faster than spawning a process |
| samelian | also, you will have surprises if a binary program missing or its output changes between versions |
| samelian | moreover, in this particulary case (xrandr) is not feasible to call xrandr |
| KingSphinx | This has probably been asked before, but if Wayland does get to the point that it can replace X11, what will happen to TDE? Will it be hosted as X11-inside-Wayland or will it actually take advantage of Wayland itself? |
| samelian | KingSphinx: I never heard about wayland :) |
| KingSphinx | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29 |
| samelian | hmm, another sux changes |
| KingSphinx | The way I see it, it seems an awful lot like Quartz on OS X. Not a bad thing though, it finally gets around the mess that is Xorg. |
| KingSphinx | Unless I'm mistaken...? |
| samelian | I think will be possible to create a wayland backend for qt3 |
| MutantTurkey | KingSphinx: wayland is not the future |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: it is |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: ? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't see it's advantages yet and it's still prototyping |
| MutantTurkey | it's possible for a backend |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know why ubuntu is pushing for it either |
| MutantTurkey | it's idiotic |
| MutantTurkey | we need to switch to a new version of X11 that externally implements networking as a plugin, and force everyone to use XCB. |
| MutantTurkey | thats that. |
| MutantTurkey | to much depends on X11, and ubuntu targets it far to soon |
| MutantTurkey | its like Oil, we cannot switch off of it in a few years like environmentalists would like to believe |
| MutantTurkey | it takes time |
| MutantTurkey | I cant figure automake out at all :-\ |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 721 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=721 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Koffice will not build with poppler or ruby support |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 722 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=722 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail strange behavior with disconnected IMAP |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| rzs19 | lol, wayland... |
| rzs19 | its not done yet and it will co-exist with xorg. ubuntu will shoot there self in the foot. |
| rzs19 | we need also a central point to managewith effects |
| rzs19 | and ways to keep tde small and light. who wants a big beast? |
| rzs19 | i have a bunch of old devices and i want to use them and not a "pls buy something new with opengl support" |
| rzs19 | maybe alos light themes? |
| rzs19 | its amazing, i can run it on and old amd geode gx and on an arm device. |
| rzs19 | this week i will take a look on the performance of an amd geode lx :) |
| rzs19 | and it seems that i'm talking with my self. what ever... hmm... i will maybe write seomthing about tde and on which device i have tested it. light like xfce... :) |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: wish it was a bit lighter... |
| MutantTurkey | id like t ocut down tde memory quite a lot |
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| ShinIori319 | Hello all |
| ShinIori319 | I am having trouble trying to install Trinity. Need it to install alongside my other DE's. Can anyone help? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 723 filed by bda@aime-toulouse.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=723 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Error message when clicking on System icon sidebar in konqueror |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 724 filed by bda@aime-toulouse.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=724 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kgtk-wrapper doesn't work with firefox and gimp |
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| MutantTurkey | rahh automake is evil |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: "good" news :) |
| samelian | > It is possible to enumerate CPUs using libudev? If yes, how? |
| samelian | No, it isn't at the moment. The kernel is a total mess with the cpu |
| samelian | devices, they are invisible to udev's coldplug. We might be able to |
| samelian | fix that soon. |
| MutantTurkey | wait waht? |
| samelian | it means that I cannot use libudev to access cpu info |
| MutantTurkey | why not just get the info from /proc/acpuinfo...? |
| MutantTurkey | from /proc/cpuinfo? |
| samelian | because is not good ideea to reinvent the wheel |
| samelian | so, I'm stuck |
| samelian | I can use libcpufreq, but this is a pretty simple library, cannot send to me signal if cpu frequency is changed |
| samelian | and I do not like to polling /proc for this |
| samelian | seems that i'm forced to implement my own solution |
| rzs19 | ola MutantTurkey: yourright about lightness :) |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: hmmm? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: how do other people do it? |
| rzs19 | rzs19: do you remember about the talk "i wish it was lighter?" |
| rzs19 | ähm |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: * |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: I think they read directly /sys/devices/system/cpu |
| MutantTurkey | why not do that? |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: it would be nice if TDE could be lighter |
| MutantTurkey | that seems sensible |
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| MutantTurkey | rzs19: yeah - it's actually pretty light, but some stuff is to heavy for me |
| samelian | I will read it directly, but I do not like very much this solution |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: yep i see it also so :) |
| samelian | because /sys/devices/system/cpu can be changed at any time |
| MutantTurkey | inotify |
| MutantTurkey | thats the solution |
| MutantTurkey | using inotify you can have it send you a signal when it changes |
| samelian | I mean, the path can be changed |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| samelian | by kernel developers |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | who cares! |
| MutantTurkey | it won't be |
| rzs19 | so, i need to test TDE on the new Geode LX, see you later :) |
| samelian | we care :) |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: the kernel devels are very obsessed with not breaking backward scompat |
| MutantTurkey | they're unlikely to change it quickly |
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| samelian | will see |
| samelian | in any case, this is not portable at all |
| samelian | tde will not be possible to use on freebsd, for example |
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| samelian | at least, cpu power management feature |
| MutantTurkey | good point |
| samelian | however, I will improvise something, to finish power management asap |
| samelian | then will see |
| samelian | I wasted already a lot of time researching this |
| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: I need some opinions |
| samelian | you think I should resemble all kpowersave features? |
| samelian | for example, I did never used schemes |
| MutantTurkey | I do need that |
| MutantTurkey | that is useful for alot |
| samelian | for me is enough if the applet remember brightness and cpu policy for line power and battery |
| samelian | for what purposes you use schemes? |
| MutantTurkey | low power - high power |
| MutantTurkey | and presentation |
| MutantTurkey | I need my screen to automatically stay on while watching films and whatever |
| samelian | I think I can implement something to check a list of applications which need to disable screensaver for example |
| MutantTurkey | meh |
| MutantTurkey | I'd mostly just like it to stay on in certain situation |
| MutantTurkey | it's better to just have a few profiles |
| samelian | ok then |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: a guy from #udev irc channel advice me to not implement governor management at all |
| MutantTurkey | what the hell |
| MutantTurkey | why not? |
| samelian | http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/power/good_practices.html |
| samelian | he told me that the most conservative governor is "ondemand" |
| MutantTurkey | I mean yes |
| MutantTurkey | which is what I use |
| MutantTurkey | but users need the option to use whatever they please |
| samelian | maybe users should be educated to read documention how to burn less energy :) |
| MutantTurkey | that is a good link |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: so, what you think? |
| MutantTurkey | so i think we let the pick anyway |
| MutantTurkey | there are situations where it is good to go powersave or whatever |
| MutantTurkey | ondemand by default thouhg |
| samelian | I think at this moment I will abandon the ideea to implement governor controller |
| samelian | and if users will see this as a regression, I will resume it |
| samelian | I have many other things to do, that implementing useless (or rare used) options |
| samelian | than* |
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| MutantTurkey | woohoo vpn working :-) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 725 filed by dandart@googlemail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=725 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, sudo-trinity conflicts with sudo |
| MutantTurkey | THAT'S NOT A BUG THATS A PLANT! |
| MutantTurkey | </arnold voice> |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: what do you think of trinity-sudo situation? |
| samelian | hehe |
| samelian | I think we should not interfere with system sudo |
| samelian | must be a better solution |
| MutantTurkey | I concur |
| MutantTurkey | I still don't understand why we do |
| samelian | me neither |
| samelian | I never use sudo to start a kde app |
| MutantTurkey | I do |
| MutantTurkey | kpackage |
| samelian | you can't use kdesu? |
| MutantTurkey | I mean I do |
| MutantTurkey | I mean I could |
| MutantTurkey | but I don't |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: I prefer sudo |
| samelian | why? |
| MutantTurkey | safer afaik |
| MutantTurkey | i'd rather not enter my root password ever |
| samelian | this is not safer, but less safe :) |
| MutantTurkey | whateverr |
| MutantTurkey | who cares not me |
| samelian | ok, sudo is not interesting for me |
| samelian | help me to organize a little the next generation of power management :) |
| samelian | I want a simple and powerful configuration interface |
| samelian | kpowersave is not intuitive |
| samelian | I think we should have two tabs |
| samelian | "Events" and "Profiles" |
| MutantTurkey | events? |
| MutantTurkey | kpoewrsave sucks :P |
| MutantTurkey | two tabes? |
| MutantTurkey | in configuration? |
| MutantTurkey | what about just the regular window? |
| samelian | as Events I understand things like "AC power plugged in", "AC power plugged out", "lid closed", "power button pressed" etc |
| MutantTurkey | ok that is good |
| MutantTurkey | and profiles do what? |
| samelian | and every event will trigger a profile |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | good |
| MutantTurkey | and profile confkigurations contain timers and actions? |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | make sure that I can set it for any timers I want, now I cannot set for less than one minute. |
| MutantTurkey | it'd like to be able to set 15 seconds, 30 seconds, etc |
| samelian | for example, when battery is on critical state, will be triggered "battery (critical)" profile |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| samelian | or, instead trigger a profile, will suspend the computer |
| MutantTurkey | we need to be able set all times on that as well |
| MutantTurkey | critical for example, I need to set what that 1% is |
| samelian | sure |
| MutantTurkey | set the percentage |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| samelian | percentage or time to complete empty battery |
| samelian | which ocurred first |
| samelian | on profile we will have |
| samelian | * disable/enable screensaver |
| samelian | * bank screen |
| samelian | other ideeas for profile? |
| samelian | the brightness will be automatically saved |
| samelian | so we do not need to set it manually |
| samelian | for example, if you're on normal battery state, the current brightness will be remembered |
| MutantTurkey | both |
| MutantTurkey | brightness |
| samelian | manually and automatic? |
| MutantTurkey | okay but also we need dimmer timers |
| MutantTurkey | hard drive spin down times |
| MutantTurkey | also there are many other powersaving features we /could/ enable |
| samelian | like... ? |
| samelian | i'm not sure what is dimmer |
| MutantTurkey | like |
| MutantTurkey | after 5 minutes dim screen |
| MutantTurkey | after 10 minutes turn screen off |
| MutantTurkey | dim screen means set to 0 |
| samelian | blank? |
| MutantTurkey | no no no |
| MutantTurkey | brightness 0 |
| samelian | i'm not sure what is the difference |
| samelian | blank = backlight off |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | set to 0% |
| MutantTurkey | I think is different |
| samelian | ok, will see |
| samelian | another options for profile? |
| MutantTurkey | I just checked |
| MutantTurkey | it is different |
| MutantTurkey | my screen is on and my brightness is at 0, just very hard to see :-P |
| samelian | i think you right |
| MutantTurkey | timers to suspend |
| MutantTurkey | "suspend after X minutes"" |
| MutantTurkey | and hibernate, or poweroff as well |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: what do you think about power monitoring utility? |
| samelian | explain |
| MutantTurkey | like recording power usage over time every X seconds into ram |
| MutantTurkey | and then generate showing it power usage over time |
| MutantTurkey | just an idea. |
| samelian | these statistics can be collected only from battery |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| samelian | it is possible, of course |
| samelian | istory |
| samelian | http://upower.freedesktop.org/docs/Device.html#Device.GetHistory |
| MutantTurkey | just an idea |
| samelian | maybe I will implement it on next release |
| MutantTurkey | okay :-) |
| MutantTurkey | it's rather irrelevant motsly |
| MutantTurkey | not critical |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | what about including uptime? |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | maybe pointless |
| MutantTurkey | dumb idea, nevermind that |
| MutantTurkey | anything else/ |
| MutantTurkey | I think hard drive spindown is important |
| MutantTurkey | also writeback timer... |
| samelian | what is this? |
| MutantTurkey | nevermind |
| MutantTurkey | I gottta go. |
| MutantTurkey | we can tlak more later on |
| MutantTurkey | I 'll have moideas |
| samelian | ok |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 436 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=436 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KVPNC: could you please build it too? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 726 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=726 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kaffeine: restore old configuration dialog options |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 727 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=727 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine DVB OSD displays incorrect colors |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 728 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=728 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine DVB OSD is too small at high resolutions |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 729 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=729 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine DVB takes much longer to start than in KDE3 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 727 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=727 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Kaffeine DVB OSD displays incorrect colors |
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| MutantTurkey | i always start hacking marathons and wimp out half way through |
| l0ner | hello! |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: Just a quick idea: what if we provided binary packages for arch? |
| MutantTurkey | yes its on the way :-) |
| MutantTurkey | I am just very behind |
| l0ner | whoah! |
| l0ner | good |
| l0ner | since I'm compiling tde right now from pkgbuilds and it just takes too much time |
| l0ner | and too much attention |
| l0ner | which binaries we have atm? |
| MutantTurkey | it's not that bad compiling |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: we don't have any, but pkgbuilds are ready |
| MutantTurkey | sooooo if you can build i686 binaries and send them to me, I can send them to the server |
| l0ner | You mean modular pgkbuilds for components? |
| MutantTurkey | no I don't know what you mean |
| l0ner | i'm building x32_64 atm |
| MutantTurkey | that does not exist. |
| l0ner | like packages for ubuntu, each app in different package |
| l0ner | so we have monoliths atm.. |
| l0ner | well, this could be start |
| MutantTurkey | you mean x86_64? |
| l0ner | yep |
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| MutantTurkey | what is wrong with monoliths? I prefer doing it sanely |
| l0ner | well, as it goes for tdebase, nothing |
| l0ner | but it's nice to give user control what actually he installs in his system |
| MutantTurkey | if I prefer doing upstream |
| MutantTurkey | if upstream sends me a tarball, i send that tarball built |
| MutantTurkey | and tdelibs? |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | he has control |
| MutantTurkey | either he can install trinity or no :-) |
| l0ner | lol |
| MutantTurkey | or he can manually build the packages |
| MutantTurkey | I do not want to waste time for the 1% of people who want to insall modular stuf |
| l0ner | for most of the tde atm it works |
| samelian | i need some opinions |
| samelian | DPMS control and screensaver really need to be included into power management? |
| l0ner | but some things, like tdegraphich, or tdemultimedia should be split into smaller parts IMHO |
| l0ner | samelian: IMHO shold |
| l0ner | *should |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | dpms does |
| samelian | hmm, screensaver is something complete different |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: okay you can do that. |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | screensaver is different |
| MutantTurkey | but DPMS is required |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: screensaver is configured by kdesktop |
| MutantTurkey | but you can signal it with dcop afaik |
| samelian | yes, and DPMS should be part of screensaver, i guess |
| MutantTurkey | so, just have a setting "start screensaver after X" |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: Anyway I've been thinking for some time about this, and IF I find some time I'll write a pad about this |
| MutantTurkey | right. |
| MutantTurkey | that's the thing |
| MutantTurkey | IF anyone finds time.. |
| MutantTurkey | thats open source :) |
| MutantTurkey | so don't hound me about packages! they'll get done when they're done! |
| l0ner | but the generall idea is pull some apps form monolithic packages (since sometimes they have redundant features (like in tdemultimedia) or are useless for most users (see fax utils in tdegfx)) |
| l0ner | anyway, I'll build x86_64 pkgs and sent them to You |
| l0ner | since I'm buildint them now |
| l0ner | *building |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: no no no |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I have those |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: the power manager needs to implement DPMS |
| l0ner | argh.. ok, I'll set up i686 vm and build them |
| l0ner | but after I finish setting up my laptop |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: we cannot controll everything from power manager, will become a big counterintuitive mess |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: just read my email |
| MutantTurkey | DPMS |
| MutantTurkey | display POWER MANAGEMENT signaling |
| samelian | a timer cannot be considered a power event :) |
| samelian | AFK is handled by screensaver |
| samelian | I won't overlap with them |
| samelian | moreover, then you will want to lock the screen from power save |
| MutantTurkey | what screensaver? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't use a screensaver. |
| MutantTurkey | not to mention, all of the power management applications implement this, we do not want to appear crippled |
| MutantTurkey | or have a lack of functionality |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: uh... I'm building thelibs and it seems I'm missing something on my system. Probably its something that should be in tdelibs dependencies. http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/517575/ |
| MutantTurkey | yeah it seems a few people ran int othat |
| MutantTurkey | probably an x11 library |
| samelian | screensaver have its own API, for example mplayer can turn off screensaver |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: nobody uses screensavers anymore. |
| MutantTurkey | :| |
| MutantTurkey | screensaver is entirely for the purpose of showing a image while the user is away |
| MutantTurkey | not power management |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: ok, please give me the output of |
| MutantTurkey | pacman -Ql | grep xorg |
| samelian | if we will implement it into power manager, mplayer will don't know how to inhibit DPMS |
| MutantTurkey | and then pacman -Ssq | grep xorg |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: how does mplayer inhibit it? |
| samelian | xscreensaver run as a daemon, and provide a unix socket |
| MutantTurkey | what does x screen saver do though |
| MutantTurkey | does it implement DPMS? |
| samelian | not sure |
| samelian | check mplayer option -stop-xscreensaver |
| samelian | -stop-xscreensaver (X11 only) |
| samelian | Turns off xscreensaver at startup and turns it on again on exit. If your screensaver supports neither the XSS nor XRe‐ |
| samelian | setScreenSaver API please use -heartbeat-cmd instead. |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/517586/ |
| MutantTurkey | look at every other powermanager |
| MutantTurkey | It is a needed utility |
| MutantTurkey | if other people implement it, we must too |
| l0ner | I use screensavers! I use them as clock. |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: yes and I use them as a photo display |
| MutantTurkey | but MOST people don't use them anymore. |
| l0ner | shame... |
| MutantTurkey | and telling users that we won't use dpms is terrible |
| l0ner | I've seen so many burned out lcd screens because of this |
| MutantTurkey | exactly. |
| MutantTurkey | it wastes power too |
| l0ner | tep |
| l0ner | *yep |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: we will use dpms, but as screensaver option |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| samelian | for example, instead drawing a blackscreen, we will turn off the backlight |
| MutantTurkey | dpms does something different |
| MutantTurkey | DPMS sends the monitor into hibernate or sleep modes |
| MutantTurkey | not just dimming |
| l0ner | lol... how my friend decoded dpms: dead predator magic system |
| samelian | haha |
| MutantTurkey | drunken philosophical mysterious snakes |
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| MutantTurkey | FCGDAEB recognise that musicians? |
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| MutantTurkey | fat chicks get drunk after eating burritos :-P |
| MutantTurkey | FCGDAEB recognise that musicians? < loner |
| l0ner | lol xD |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: nope... |
| l0ner | what is this |
| MutantTurkey | musical keys |
| MutantTurkey | anyway |
| l0ner | I'm not a musician... I just try to play a guitar |
| * l0ner suck at music | |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | I play guitar too! |
| * l0ner is hungry | |
| l0ner | nice ;) |
| MutantTurkey | mostly Bass though |
| l0ner | I wish I had bas |
| l0ner | s |
| MutantTurkey | do quite a bit of writing, mostly blues/folk stuff |
| l0ner | but i have ele guit and I'm happy enough :D |
| * l0ner plays metal... trash metal | |
| MutantTurkey | pffft |
| l0ner | anyway I'm going to grab something to eat |
| MutantTurkey | where are you from again? united states right? |
| l0ner | italy |
| * MutantTurkey is starving but stuck in chem | |
| MutantTurkey | oh very cool |
| l0ner | afk: eating |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: |
| MutantTurkey | found it |
| MutantTurkey | X composite extention |
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| l0ner | I'm back |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: |
| MutantTurkey | install the xcomposite extension |
| l0ner | kaay :) |
| MutantTurkey | compositeproto is what is the name |
| l0ner | I added libxcomposite as a dep in PKGBUILD |
| l0ner | it pulls compositeproto |
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| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | can you send me a patch? |
| l0ner | sure |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: what do you think? http://www.thel.ro/profiles.png |
| l0ner | samelian: IMO nice |
| l0ner | where MutantTurkey went?? damn I need him |
| MutantTurkey | here |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | huh... lol. I se message abou you leaving the channel |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: YOU ARE MY HERO! :-) |
| samelian | :) |
| l0ner | but not about joining it... lol |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: ? what |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: looks good |
| MutantTurkey | a "presentation" ne is also very standard |
| samelian | i think is flexible enough |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/517678/ Error in tdebase build. I'm missing something. I remembre getting it on vm too, but don't remember what fixed it |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't seen that one before |
| l0ner | so it's something new |
| MutantTurkey | maybe |
| MutantTurkey | it builds for me okay :-? |
| l0ner | or maybe I fixed i myself |
| l0ner | damn |
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| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| MutantTurkey | if you figure it out, tell me! |
| MutantTurkey | I need to make a patch then |
| MutantTurkey | anyway gotta go |
| MutantTurkey | email me if you need me |
| MutantTurkey | also samelian you're awesome :-) |
| l0ner | ok, i'll do |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: ? :) |
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| MutantTurkey | wooopwoopwoop |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner? |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: very nice progress indeed :-) |
| MutantTurkey | I advise you create a presentation preset I think it is pretty standard |
| samelian | ofc |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=721 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Koffice will not build with poppler or ruby support |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=730 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Chalk: remove ImageMagick and GraphicsMagick dependencies |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 731 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=731 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror file manager: slow to copy directories |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 732 filed by bda@aime-toulouse.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=732 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, rapip kio is missing |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 733 filed by midenok@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=733 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, git error: v3.5.13 doesn't configure with latest cmake submodule |
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| l0ner | !help |
| tbottu | l0ner: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
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| l0ner | nothing happens today... |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=387 normal, P2, ---, monqpourbsd-linuxfr, PATCHAVAIL, Kicker/Panel Clock Font Display Looks Weird |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 734 filed by gomadtroll@gci.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=734 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, garbled background image for greeter/login screen |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 735 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=735 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KOffice: FTBFS with ruby 1.9.1 installed |
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| rumbert | How can a PIM resource as directory of files be merged into another resource which is a single file? I wish to merge for each of contacts and calendar information. |
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| rumbert | When not running Trinity, but wishing to run SystemSettings, is there some program that can be started so that SystemSettings does not crash? |
| l0ner | errr |
| l0ner | dunno |
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| MutantTurkey | beep |
| MutantTurkey | samelian you around? |
| l0ner | I found a little nice thing! |
| l0ner | a script Kde4 team used to convert their autotools code to cmake |
| l0ner | anyone whe know ruby here? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 736 filed by f_ii@email.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=736 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, konqueror crash in KonqRun::foundMimeType(QString const&) () |
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| MutantTurkey | dang started a trinity war on reddit :/ |
| l0ner | why? |
| l0ner | and what time is in the US atm? |
| l0ner | and what is reddit? |
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| l0ner | dang... |
| rumbert | l0ner: reddit.com |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | that o know |
| l0ner | *I |
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| MutantTurkey | beyooowoop |
| l0ner | wut? |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: did you commit my patches to git? |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: nope sorry |
| MutantTurkey | I might have time this weekend |
| l0ner | and did I sent You patch for kdegraphics?? |
| l0ner | well It's not that urgent for me, since I have them already |
| MutantTurkey | tonight = cram for finals + tutor + halo competition with buddies. tomorrow morning work at 10AM - 4PM, 5PM leave for firebird festival, return around midnight. Sunday, Church 9AM, done at 10AM, then Work till 3, then girlfriend is coming over, then cramming more :x |
| l0ner | but when You've did, tell me, I'll need to modify my script for building binaries |
| MutantTurkey | you have a script! |
| MutantTurkey | hand it over! |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | hahaha :D |
| l0ner | lol xD |
| l0ner | ok, but I need to modify it a little |
| l0ner | to chech if there are PKGBUILD patches and to apply them |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | what? |
| MutantTurkey | :x |
| MutantTurkey | that seems silly to me! |
| MutantTurkey | either way I think we should get you repo access |
| l0ner | sure |
| l0ner | and btw, where do we host arch binaries? |
| l0ner | it would be nice to have repo like kdemod3 has |
| MutantTurkey | exactly |
| MutantTurkey | THEY are our repository |
| MutantTurkey | I've talked to them already |
| l0ner | w00t |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | nice :D |
| MutantTurkey | so make those packages and send them over! |
| MutantTurkey | then I can upload them to their repository |
| l0ner | i already sent i686 pkgs |
| MutantTurkey | to who? |
| l0ner | to build other things i'll need to either find a way to tell autotools where is tqt3 (since it's detecting tqt4 (which is not even present lol)) or port things to cmake) |
| l0ner | you |
| l0ner | |
| l0ner | put them on my dropbox |
| l0ner | zipped |
| MutantTurkey | oh nice |
| MutantTurkey | well I saw a attachment of patches |
| MutantTurkey | what is dropbox? |
| l0ner | cloud usb pen |
| l0ner | 1GB of space in the net for you personal things |
| MutantTurkey | very nice |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | I have 1TB plus of personal space right here at my own home |
| MutantTurkey | plenty for me :-) |
| l0ner | i'll invite you, so I'll earn 250mb of additional space xD |
| MutantTurkey | awesome I see it |
| l0ner | well I have 2TB of personal space @ home, but i cant acces it through web |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know about that logo :x |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: dude check out ownCloud... |
| l0ner | kaay |
| l0ner | anyway, i tried to set up my personal web hosting at home |
| l0ner | but my router can't understand that he needs to redirect all traffic that comes to port 80 to srv ip |
| MutantTurkey | it's cool |
| l0ner | i have even dyndns web addres |
| MutantTurkey | it's like all the cool cloud stuff |
| MutantTurkey | except that you run it on your server |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | ok, i'll check it later |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| MutantTurkey | okay cool thank you for the binaries |
| MutantTurkey | are these working all? |
| MutantTurkey | and verified? :-) |
| l0ner | now i'll give a finishing touch to the script |
| MutantTurkey | then upload it to git |
| MutantTurkey | I mean email it |
| l0ner | verified yes, I use them on my vm |
| MutantTurkey | damnit. |
| l0ner | ok |
| MutantTurkey | you rock! :) thanks very much |
| MutantTurkey | I see you are getting started with CMake as well? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | as I wrote i used am2cmake script provided by kde4 team |
| l0ner | and it fixed tqt detection problem |
| l0ner | but it wont build, since some of the files aren't generated |
| l0ner | so I'll read tonight cmake docs and try to start on porting |
| MutantTurkey | yeah cmake is actually way better than Automake |
| l0ner | it's less confising |
| MutantTurkey | anyway g2g. maybe we should create an etherpad page about Arch + Trinity? |
| l0ner | when i see autotuuols files i see a monster with 1000+ eyes and tentacles |
| l0ner | yep, would be nice idea |
| MutantTurkey | I am just juggling to much on my plate right now |
| MutantTurkey | 1200+ heads too |
| MutantTurkey | g2g ttyl |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | ;) |
| l0ner | hf |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 450 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=450 normal, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, system dock items do not get readded to kicker after kicker restart |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 607 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=607 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kicker doesn't show windows with size <= 5 pixels |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 737 filed by m.wilk@op.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=737 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail - Unable to complete LIST operation |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 738 filed by m.wilk@op.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=738 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Korganizer - "to-do due today color" overrides category color of to-do in Agenda View |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 739 filed by m.wilk@op.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=739 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KOrganizer - location path in to-do composer |
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| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
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| gcsimon | for all who like me having trouble with the replay-gain script for amarok, i hacked it to work. |
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| rumbert | gcsimon: which script? I try to use replay gain |
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| rumbert | gcsimon: script? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 740 filed by ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=740 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kcontrol crashes on screensaver options if kscreensaver is not installed |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 741 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=741 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Locale mixup between TDE and KDE |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 742 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=742 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Implement a option to use alternative Window Managers. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 743 filed by ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=743 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Changing window decoration options does not change the preview |
| * Strangelv wonders if he even wants to think about looking at Gräßlin's posts to the TDE lists | |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 744 filed by ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=744 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Some built-in desktop backgrounds don't work |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 741 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=741 minor, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Locale mixup between TDE and KDE |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 745 filed by james@nurealm.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=745 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kghostview-trinity - bad gs dependency - should be ghostscript |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 410 as a duplicate of bug 725. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=410 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Error on sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-kde3 kubuntu-desktop-kde3 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=725 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, sudo-trinity conflicts with sudo |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 240 as a duplicate of bug 725. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=240 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Trouble with installing trinity on Ubuntu Lucid lynx |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian? |
| MutantTurkey | damng |
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| hoernerfranz | hi, anyone followed this thread lately on trinity-devel ? 'Suggestion to drop [t|k]win from Trinity and replace it by KWin4' |
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| l0ner | !seeb MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: Error: "seeb" is not a valid command. |
| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 1 day, 5 hours, 48 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> damng |
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| MutantTurkey | work just told me that they owe me $500 because I missed a check one week. legit :-) |
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| schreiberstein | Hello everyone! |
| schreiberstein | short question : does trinity work on linux mint 12? i guess yes, but i'm too lazy to try it.;-) |
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| NachPlus | I don't know if this is of interest to anyone, but an article came out today which praises the KDE 3.5 user interface: http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2011/12/progression-and-regression-of-desktop.html |
| l0ner | reading. |
| l0ner | sw33t! |
| l0ner | but I don't like the last paragraph. He blames the dev team for rebranding. |
| l0ner | It's only a name for fsck sake. |
| * l0ner is away: Watching film/sleeping/reading/afk/not being here. | |
| NachPlus | l0ner: some people are touchy I guess |
| * Xu_R does not like the last paragraph either :-\ | |
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| l0ner | lol: http://twitter.com/#!/rubenv/status/146139849345343488/photo/1 |
| Z_God | it's using grub, that grub could potentially load anything |
| l0ner | well, yes |
| l0ner | but i've never seen use it without linux |
| Z_God | and grub is the first choice for anyone to load their own custom os |
| l0ner | Kubricks films are damn disturbing. |
| NachPlus | Hi l0ner, nice responses you put there |
| l0ner | thx |
| NachPlus | We really need more people promoting KDE 3.5, so more people can develop it |
| l0ner | well It's one of the ways I can help |
| l0ner | besides I was really explaining my point of view there |
| NachPlus | I tried submitting some patches to official KDE project people, but I'm generally ignored :( |
| l0ner | well, they didn't give a good feeling imo |
| l0ner | when I tried to talk with them on kde forum (and this was just only once) they were like "we know better what You want to do" |
| NachPlus | I got that as well |
| NachPlus | I tried a different approach recently and submitted some patches to enhance syntax highlighting in KATE |
| l0ner | ignoring all ma arguments and keeping on telling that I;m the one at mistake |
| NachPlus | I'm also being ignored there too, I don't get it |
| l0ner | well, I have a nice life policy. |
| l0ner | If someone ignores you, ignore him too and move along |
| NachPlus | Aaron told me I should stay from away from UIs since I don't have a clue what I'm talking about |
| NachPlus | Well, at the moment, I'm maintaining my own KATE syntax highlighting stuff which I have to merge with changes as they come out, it's annoying |
| l0ner | i believe |
| l0ner | well, most of my hate towards kde4 comes from way the dev team treats users and people who disagree with them |
| NachPlus | oh l0ner he replied to your last post |
| l0ner | i've seen |
| NachPlus | Was there a massive change in the people between 3 and 4? |
| NachPlus | I have a hard time believing the same people created both |
| l0ner | but I'm not really in the position to talk about marketing |
| l0ner | me too |
| NachPlus | I also couldn't help but notice that half the people in the KDE 4 videos were using a Macbook |
| l0ner | "thik different" lol? |
| l0ner | *think |
| l0ner | IMHO it should be more "Think in way we want You to" |
| l0ner | both for apple and kde4 |
| NachPlus | indeed |
| NachPlus | and a lot of people I talk to tell me stuff like: "Who cares about a loss of functionality? It looks so much cooler!" |
| l0ner | that's why we should look trinity coller |
| l0ner | without loos of functionality |
| NachPlus | I also question the cooler part, I think the Oxygen themed icons look worse than Crystal SVG or Keramik |
| NachPlus | or Plastik or the other KDE 3.5 themes |
| l0ner | personally I get feeling that trinity default theme should be a little more darker |
| l0ner | same for me |
| NachPlus | What's really sad is that the only thing I find KDE 4 good for is to run on Windows :P |
| l0ner | lol |
| NachPlus | Well, nighty night |
| l0ner | gnight |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 746 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=746 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Debian-like repositories: Contents files are missing |
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| * l0ner is away: Watching film/sleeping/reading/afk/not being here. | |
| l0ner | uh, that is strange |
| l0ner | my laptop don't see gmail server trowing me at opendns site saying "server not found" but my pc seems to see gmail |
| l0ner | wonders of dns |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 747 filed by f.couperin@online.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=747 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, arts: jack support isn't enabled by cmake |
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| rzs19 | so trinity is now running on a fsc futro a240(AMD Geode LX 800, 512 MB RAM) :) |
| rumbert | rzs19: oh, Geode?! Those can generally boot with CoreBoot. Tried it by chance? |
| rzs19 | you mean LinuxBIOS, or how it was called? i have never tried it, yet... |
| rzs19 | i want to buy more of the fsc futros, so maybe i could try it out on one. |
| rzs19 | they just need 9 to 11 watt. this one is my nx server, another one should be my vide owatching device(could run mpegs without problems) and another one should be my wake up music server at the morning :) |
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| rumbert | rzs19: ah! Fujutsu "recommends Windows 7". At least they use Apache WWW server. |
| rzs19 | well i don't play games like windows 7. |
| rumbert | rzs19: Is that computer featured at fujitsu.com? I don't find it. |
| rzs19 | rumbert: its a thin client :) |
| rumbert | rzs19: which? |
| rzs19 | rumbert: called "Futro A240" |
| rumbert | rzs19: that is not listed. |
| rzs19 | i bought it there: http://www.quantelectronic.de/ThinClient-FSC_Futro_A240_ThinClient_Geode_LX_500MHz_128MB_128MB_AMD_LX800_i186_12171.htm and changed the ram. |
| rzs19 | its from "Fujitsu Siemens" |
| rzs19 | i need some time to figure out this nice link about thin clients |
| rzs19 | rumbert: whats your mother/nativ language? |
| rumbert | rzs19: english |
| rumbert | you can PrivMsg me if you wish. We've been pretty OT for a while. |
| rzs19 | rumbert: your right |
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| l0ner | damn |
| * l0ner is away: Gone away for now | |
| * l0ner is back. | |
| l0ner | ny rogramming skills are too low |
| l0ner | *my |
| l0ner | *programming |
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| rzs19 | yeah! i got a DeLorean! |
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| * l0ner wants DeLorean too! | |
| * l0ner has registered in UE ISP line speed survey. | |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 748 filed by sh4dou@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=748 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Various bugs preventing compilation [FTBFS] |
| tbottu | 10sh4dou@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 748 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| * l0ner is back. | |
| * l0ner is pushing PKGBUILDs into git like a boss | |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: ping |
| * l0ner is writing and pushing PKGBUILDS like a boss! | |
| MutantTurkey | pong |
| MutantTurkey | hey buddy |
| MutantTurkey | okay let me pull |
| l0ner | yo |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | chem final in 4 hours |
| l0ner | argh ;) |
| l0ner | gl |
| MutantTurkey | questoin |
| * l0ner hates chem | |
| l0ner | yes? |
| MutantTurkey | do you think that kdeartwork, kdegrahpics, kdenetwork should be in kde-base group? |
| l0ner | nope |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | they are additional apps not required to normal usage |
| MutantTurkey | if you can... konversation :-) |
| l0ner | isn't it done? |
| l0ner | needs fixes? |
| l0ner | anyway I have some ideas about whole trinity structure |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | shoot? |
| MutantTurkey | also - i dig the logo ideas |
| MutantTurkey | but the website... |
| l0ner | since some apps that shoud be in tdebase package are outside it (like kmix) |
| MutantTurkey | damnit we just get to many people wanting to make some sort of "amazing website" and I can't trust anyone |
| l0ner | well, website is not so important |
| MutantTurkey | The website needs improvment not complication |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | okay keep going on about kmix |
| l0ner | anyway my idea is: replace layout since it looks kinda like done in 2004, and add some kind of news system |
| MutantTurkey | :[ |
| MutantTurkey | did you see the old website? |
| l0ner | about kmix: it is something user would use on a daily basis, so it fits into kdebase. Show me modern pc that don't have audio today. why it is in the kdemultimedia package that is optional? |
| l0ner | nope i didn't |
| l0ner | and i think I'm glad |
| l0ner | you know, what has been seen cannot be unseen |
| MutantTurkey | it was so bad. |
| MutantTurkey | this is like 500 times better. |
| l0ner | anyway I'll do my idea for the website in plain html |
| MutantTurkey | small Php is okay |
| MutantTurkey | it's actually php |
| MutantTurkey | the news is also dynamic |
| MutantTurkey | it reads a directory with text files |
| MutantTurkey | each text file is an entry |
| l0ner | my main conceen is seeing .php files in the addres bar. It can be used to obtain info about server. |
| MutantTurkey | pfft |
| l0ner | i've seen my frien do this |
| l0ner | he is osme kind of php mage |
| MutantTurkey | :x |
| MutantTurkey | ONLY |
| l0ner | i'll ask him fir security advices and addres masking if I reach him |
| MutantTurkey | only if you write insecure websites |
| l0ner | well, maybe |
| MutantTurkey | my philosophy - don't make it accessable. |
| l0ner | anyway I'm not php dev, so I can't relly tell |
| MutantTurkey | having a mysql DB will kill you |
| MutantTurkey | much better to use flat files and no db's |
| MutantTurkey | much safer |
| l0ner | ok |
| MutantTurkey | also we need it to render fullly HTML compliant on all browsers |
| l0ner | simple css will do |
| l0ner | and div structure |
| l0ner | witjout any kind of flash js |
| MutantTurkey | that is what we have. |
| l0ner | *flashy |
| MutantTurkey | we already use divs and CSS :-) |
| MutantTurkey | what is so bad about the website anyway? :) |
| l0ner | ok, I'll design new, more eye-cany yet simple site |
| l0ner | il looks antic |
| l0ner | I had homepage in 2008 that looked like this |
| l0ner | and it sucked |
| MutantTurkey | :X |
| MutantTurkey | accessiblity is the most important |
| l0ner | i can do accesible sites, that look good |
| l0ner | and it will be accessible even if you use lynx |
| l0ner | my pririorities when creating websites are: accesibility, eyecandiness |
| l0ner | anyway |
| MutantTurkey | anyway |
| l0ner | we'll talk about it later |
| MutantTurkey | we have more pressing issues I think :-) |
| l0ner | back to kmix |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| l0ner | I'd like to see some different structure of tde. 3 main "categories": Trinity-libs, TDE, and Trinty-apps, |
| l0ner | Trinity libs containing only libs, qt, tqt, arts |
| l0ner | TDE containing only desktop enviroment, and optionals for it like themes |
| l0ner | and Trinity-apps that contains optional apps based on Trinity-libs |
| l0ner | divided by category |
| l0ner | somthing like we have now, but a little cleaner |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm? |
| MutantTurkey | i did trinity base for a reason |
| l0ner | in Trinity-apps no monolithic packages, since user wont need EVERY app |
| MutantTurkey | if you install "trinity-base" you get a basic desktop |
| MutantTurkey | and "trinity-extras" will get you everything else |
| MutantTurkey | this is how gnome packages and i think kde work aswell |
| l0ner | I know, but atm it misses some small things that are for example in kdemultimedia |
| l0ner | I'll do a draft of this later too |
| l0ner | I need to rething and clear my ideas anyway |
| MutantTurkey | okay :) |
| MutantTurkey | just let me know |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | and now back to wirk |
| MutantTurkey | I can't do anything till next week probably. |
| l0ner | *work |
| l0ner | I'll won't be around next week |
| l0ner | I'll be here until 21/12 |
| l0ner | afther this I'm gone until 3-4/1/2012 |
| l0ner | I need to go to poland for holidays |
| l0ner | my grandpa is really sick and I need to see him, since he could die any time |
| l0ner | and next time I'll be able to go to poland will be for summer |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: do we need kde-systesettings? it's kde4 like system settings panel. I think we shoud drop it completely, since we have kcontrol. It's remnant form transition between kde3 and 4 times, |
| MutantTurkey | what is that? |
| MutantTurkey | kcontrol is the best. |
| l0ner | i know |
| MutantTurkey | but after the holidays? |
| MutantTurkey | you'll be back? |
| l0ner | it's the same thing they use in kde4 atm |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | i'll be back ;) I do not intend on retunring to poland to stay there |
| l0ner | anyway back to kde-systemsettings |
| l0ner | I think it should be dropped completly from trinity |
| l0ner | since it's something kde dev team created with intent to put it in the kde4 |
| l0ner | when kde4 didn't exist yet |
| Z_God | l0ner: it was created by the kubuntu people |
| Z_God | later on it was copied for kde4 |
| l0ner | it somethnig pre idea "lest screw work dont up until now and create something new" and after "we want kde4 to be different form kde3" |
| Z_God | kcontrol is still there and is the only thing used when you install trinity on debian for example |
| l0ner | Z_God: kay, history i know is a little different, but it mey be as you say |
| l0ner | well, I remember getting kde-systemsettings on ubuntu and hating it |
| Z_God | you can just use kcontrol instead |
| Z_God | it should work fine |
| l0ner | yep, I know |
| l0ner | it's not a issue |
| l0ner | anyway I'll omit it for arch |
| Z_God | yes, that seems appropriate |
| Z_God | if it was never in kde3 on arch before either |
| l0ner | I don't even understand why kde-systemsettings was born |
| Z_God | I think it's ok |
| l0ner | it misses too much things that are in kcontrol |
| Z_God | yes, that's true |
| Z_God | but I like it's search feature |
| l0ner | maybe we could implement such feature in kcontrol? |
| Z_God | maybe, but kcontrol also has flaws |
| Z_God | it can be quite hard to find things there if you're not already a kde/trinity expert |
| l0ner | maybe |
| l0ner | I don't remember ever having this kind of problem, even as a new kde user |
| l0ner | years ago |
| Z_God | some options are just hidden deep into a kcontrol panel |
| Z_God | at least both programs share all the setting panels |
| l0ner | nad that is good |
| Z_God | but with the new systemsettings it was easier to search |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | with this sharing it should be easy to keep both I think |
| l0ner | I'd like to see new tree in the kcontrol called apps that allows me to change every app settings without having necessity to run the app itself. Amarok settings in kcontrol (example) |
| Z_God | an app could ship a kcontrole module |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | it would be ultimate system-app integration |
| Z_God | there is one big risk |
| Z_God | that it would clutter kcontrol |
| l0ner | in which way, un user end, or in the memory usage meaning? |
| Z_God | first |
| Z_God | also it can give loads of inconsistency |
| Z_God | because most programs will not have their settings there |
| l0ner | not really, separate them from other optins, and divide them by category (like in kmenu), each tree entry rappresents on app |
| l0ner | tahts true for not-tdee apps |
| Z_God | the point is that it'll be quite a bit of work to even get all TDE apps in there |
| l0ner | well, we have time |
| l0ner | no rus in doing anything |
| l0ner | we are in the development stage anyway |
| Z_God | you think you could do it? |
| Z_God | I guess patches would indeed be accepted for this |
| l0ner | besides we don't have to implement everything at once |
| l0ner | dunno, I don't have much of programming skills |
| l0ner | but I can always try |
| Z_God | there's still a lack of developers |
| MutantTurkey | I don't thin kit would be that much wokr |
| l0ner | anyway I wanted to help with (and learn) cmake |
| MutantTurkey | because amarok for example actually uses the same backend calls that kcontrol does |
| l0ner | yes... developer lack is our main problem |
| MutantTurkey | they'd just need to be seperated into a module |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: l0ner: don't talk about the lack of developers, thats not |
| MutantTurkey | thats not a problem |
| l0ner | ok |
| MutantTurkey | it's the lack of developers actually developing :-) |
| Z_God | what's the difference? |
| MutantTurkey | difference? I am sort of a developer, but I just havent done as much work as possible |
| MutantTurkey | I think that is why we need to have bug days and events to help motivate us |
| Z_God | I sent in patches as well, but I just do not have much free time |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I've seen you commented about my feature request in kmix. |
| Z_God | more people would solve that |
| MutantTurkey | if everyone put aside a few hours on a weekend we could squash it |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: pulseaudio |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | got stalled on that one |
| MutantTurkey | because of automake |
| MutantTurkey | cant fucking makit work |
| MutantTurkey | afdjaskfs hate automake |
| l0ner | have you looked at pulseaudio page? |
| l0ner | me too |
| l0ner | if we add per app control of volume, we still wont be able to control volume of each trinity app |
| l0ner | but only of those external to arts |
| MutantTurkey | what? |
| MutantTurkey | no trinity apps don't all depend on arts |
| MutantTurkey | I guess they do... |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | but like firefox and such |
| MutantTurkey | I want to remove arts |
| l0ner | since arts takes every trinity app streaming audio, mixes it together and sends it to alsa, then pulse intercepts that stream and mixes it to his stream |
| MutantTurkey | and it's not to much work |
| Z_God | most trinity apps will not play their own audio |
| l0ner | i want to remove arts too |
| MutantTurkey | we could remove arts I think not to badly |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | I know how |
| Z_God | they just send sound files to arts to play |
| MutantTurkey | basically no one actually directly accesses arts |
| l0ner | spilt it into smaller parts and replace it's mixing module by something else |
| MutantTurkey | they all make k calls |
| MutantTurkey | that then send it to arts |
| MutantTurkey | so we needto change those calls to pulseaudio |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | pulseaudio api i srelatively simple |
| Z_God | I don't think it's possible |
| MutantTurkey | it's just as simple as writing streams |
| Z_God | pulseaudio only mixes, it doesn't decode anything |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: I was examining the code |
| MutantTurkey | its very possible |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: for decoding stuff, we call a library? |
| Z_God | like arts ;) |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | like ffmpeg |
| Z_God | it seems quite a lot of work to me |
| MutantTurkey | that or continue using the archaic and terrible arts |
| Z_God | what's bad about arts? |
| MutantTurkey | it's unmaintained and old? |
| MutantTurkey | the developers stopped it because it was so bad. |
| l0ner | actaully arts decode streams form apps using its plugin called aKode, then it mixes those streams using another plugin and send mixed streams to artsd which communicates directyl with alsa |
| Z_God | you could argue then loads of parts of trinity are bad |
| l0ner | it tries to do too much things |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: exactly |
| MutantTurkey | that is why we are eliminating bad parts |
| MutantTurkey | example is samelians udev implementation |
| l0ner | yes, but arts wasn't projected as audio system in the first plce |
| l0ner | it was projected as modular sythesizer and dsp suite |
| MutantTurkey | its a synthesizer |
| MutantTurkey | not a audio sink |
| l0ner | yep |
| Z_God | but arts still works fine |
| Z_God | the udev work was just necessary for newer distros |
| l0ner | not always |
| Z_God | when not? |
| l0ner | I cant play sound from both firefox and amarok |
| MutantTurkey | amarok sucks. |
| MutantTurkey | I hate it |
| Z_God | I can |
| MutantTurkey | I use mocp :-) |
| l0ner | i do not |
| MutantTurkey | amarok seems so counter intuitive |
| MutantTurkey | all playlist based |
| Z_God | alsa's dmix handles it fine |
| MutantTurkey | dmix is amazin |
| l0ner | you don't have 300+Gb of music which needs to be managed in some way |
| l0ner | i do |
| Z_God | I do not use amarok either, but it works fine icw firefox |
| l0ner | well not for me |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I have 300+ gigs :) |
| MutantTurkey | I don't even know |
| l0ner | lol |
| MutantTurkey | it's near 1TB now |
| l0ner | so we are the same |
| MutantTurkey | 100k+ songs |
| Z_God | l0ner: it's not related to arts, alsa's dmix should handle it |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: but I orginize by folder |
| MutantTurkey | thats the best way |
| l0ner | mope |
| l0ner | nope |
| MutantTurkey | no? |
| l0ner | I see mixers on mixers on mixers |
| l0ner | and that is why people hates pulse |
| MutantTurkey | pulse is good |
| MutantTurkey | its good for developers and users |
| Z_God | I never used pulse |
| MutantTurkey | and lets you do alot |
| l0ner | there should be only ONE mixer in system, otherwise it all becomes a mess |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: agreed |
| MutantTurkey | but mixers and backends are different |
| MutantTurkey | oss and alsa are directly on hardware |
| MutantTurkey | then on top sits another layer often |
| MutantTurkey | dosn't need to but it can |
| MutantTurkey | like pulse and arts |
| l0ner | it is or pulse or dmix |
| MutantTurkey | dmix is just part of al |
| MutantTurkey | alsa |
| l0ner | it should be like this hw:hwcommlayer:mixer:decoder:apps |
| Z_God | you should not mix the alsa drivers and alsalib |
| MutantTurkey | http://yokozar.org/blog/content/linuxaudio.png |
| l0ner | no dmix is part od alsa-utils |
| MutantTurkey | look at this hell |
| Z_God | they are two different parts in your stack |
| MutantTurkey | look at that hlel |
| MutantTurkey | I use Jack anyway... |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: there is error in this graph |
| MutantTurkey | it's from 2008 |
| Z_God | the graph is incorrect on purpose of course ;) |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.indygo.de/misc/linux_audio.png probably a bit better |
| Z_God | it doesn't make sense either |
| MutantTurkey | but that does give you a good idea of how f'd up its |
| l0ner | look at pulseaudio page, they have a correct graph there |
| MutantTurkey | yeah? |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | link |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | i can't access pulse website |
| l0ner | wonders of my dns |
| MutantTurkey | weird for me to |
| MutantTurkey | must be down |
| l0ner | must |
| MutantTurkey | arts is blech we might as well eliminate it |
| Z_God | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pulseaudio-diagram.svg |
| MutantTurkey | trinity is already to bloated |
| Z_God | this makes indeed more sense |
| Z_God | it even has aRts |
| MutantTurkey | yes but that is only for pulse |
| MutantTurkey | I was talking about the whole ecosystem |
| l0ner | when I have seen arts documentation i was like "fsck" |
| Z_God | but it shows the layers properly |
| l0ner | and it wanting to be even notification system |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: yeah... |
| Z_God | I think it's better to focus on parts of trinity that do not work |
| Z_God | arts just works |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: arts is still shitty |
| MutantTurkey | migrating away will reduce our work later on |
| Z_God | it should be gone at one point |
| Z_God | but now there are more urgent things |
| MutantTurkey | like what? |
| Z_God | like having a good webbrowser :) |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | go ahead and develop it... |
| MutantTurkey | i think that is the last thing |
| MutantTurkey | eventually we will wrap qwebkit |
| l0ner | anyway, we should fix what is not working, then enhancing |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| l0ner | I have .ui files |
| MutantTurkey | so you better get cracking, because nothing gets done by itself ;) |
| l0ner | In file included from /root/pkgbuild/kdewebdev/src/build/quanta/project/uploadprofilespage.cpp:22:0: |
| l0ner | /root/pkgbuild/kdewebdev/src/build/quanta/project/uploadprofilespage.ui.h:23:27: fatal error: projectupload.h: No such file or directory |
| l0ner | how do I fix that? |
| MutantTurkey | no iea |
| MutantTurkey | cmake? |
| l0ner | uploadprofilespage.cpp is generated form .ui file |
| l0ner | anyway the truth is taht arts needs to be replaced at some point |
| l0ner | by something modern and more modular |
| Z_God | l0ner: even more modular?!? |
| l0ner | yep |
| Z_God | I cannot even imagine that |
| l0ner | maybe you don't understood me |
| Z_God | well, the current aRts is extremely modular |
| l0ner | since arts now rely on akode and its dsp system |
| Z_God | only because you use those modules |
| Z_God | you can replace all of that |
| l0ner | whit what? |
| l0ner | *whith |
| Z_God | the modularity is there |
| Z_God | I think there used to be alternatives for akode in the past |
| Z_God | and there are multiple dsp output modules as well |
| l0ner | yes but its arts internal modularity |
| l0ner | arts is one entity in the end |
| Z_God | what other modularity do you imagine? |
| Z_God | there will probably be no replacement for arts, programs using arts could be rewritten to use gstreamer or maybe phonon |
| l0ner | rather than having only arts that do all the things, we could use different smaller components to do the same |
| l0ner | gstreames is only a decoder |
| Z_God | I don't think trinity should provide anything there |
| Z_God | gstreamer can also output |
| l0ner | yes, but if you do that you lose some abilities |
| l0ner | every decoder can output |
| Z_God | gstreamer can output directly to alsa |
| Z_God | and oss |
| l0ner | in theory you could take akode and make it output directly to alsa too |
| Z_God | what features from arts would you loose if you wrote rewrite a program to use gstreamer? |
| l0ner | mixing |
| l0ner | ? |
| Z_God | you don't need it |
| Z_God | this is exactly what you don't want |
| l0ner | now taht is funnt |
| Z_God | mixing is already taken care of by lower layers |
| l0ner | nope |
| l0ner | mixing is not taken care by arts |
| l0ner | *alsa |
| l0ner | you need a mixer |
| Z_God | my alsa mixes |
| l0ner | its not alsa that mixes, but alsa-mixer, which is part of alsa-utils |
| l0ner | which is not the same as alsa |
| l0ner | since alsa is a part of kernel |
| Z_God | it seems you don't know much about alsa's architecture |
| l0ner | and alsa-utils |
| l0ner | maybe |
| Z_God | you should read up on alsa-driver & alsa-lib |
| Z_God | the 2nd is not in the kernel and does the mixing |
| l0ner | ok, I have alsa-lib installed |
| l0ner | but I can't get mixing working, |
| Z_God | it is enabled by default normally |
| l0ner | if i run some app (external to arts which contains a mixer) that streams to alsa I can't stream from other app because "device is in use" |
| Z_God | the app needs to use the device "default" |
| Z_God | not a device like hw:0,0 |
| Z_God | or even plughw:0,0 |
| l0ner | it uses default device |
| Z_God | you can try this |
| Z_God | do fuser on /dev/snd/* |
| Z_God | and see which apps are running |
| Z_God | then kill all apps using an audio device |
| Z_God | then runs 2 or more aplays with the default device |
| Z_God | run* |
| l0ner | not now |
| l0ner | I'll try it later |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 749 filed by sh4dou@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=749 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdewebdev FTBSF |
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| l0ner | what is kgkt-qt3? |
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| MutantTurkey | deskzilla is awesome l0ner |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: what difference is between dbus-1-tqt and dbus-tqt-1 |
| l0ner | what is deskzilla? frontend for bugzilla? |
| l0ner | and what is kgtk-qt3 |
| l0ner | since I have some problems with those |
| l0ner | I can't build kgtk-qt3 since it uses kde4-style cmake, and has hardcoded paths to /usr/bin/tmoc in cmake files, and if I change them build hangs |
| MutantTurkey | yeah its nice |
| MutantTurkey | kgtk-qt3 is a gtk engine for... wait what? |
| MutantTurkey | thats gtk-qt-engine |
| MutantTurkey | kgtk-qt3 are dialog wrappers afaik |
| MutantTurkey | ou can't build dbus tqt? |
| l0ner | and knetworkmanager cannot be build since cmake searches for dbus-1-tqt which we don't provide |
| l0ner | we provide dbus-tqt-1 |
| l0ner | i changed cmake files to search for dbus-tqt-1 (since we pull dbus-1-tqt tarball for dbus-tqt-1) |
| l0ner | but cmake still can't detect it. |
| l0ner | do i push incomplete/unwerified PKGBUILDs to git? |
| l0ner | mmm...food |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: yes push everything you hvea |
| MutantTurkey | I don't care if they are complete |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: ok? |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: Already did |
| l0ner | they are in 3.5.13_broken dir |
| MutantTurkey | once I verify they work on x86_64 i will push |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: no don't bother with that :-) |
| l0ner | with explanations why they dont build |
| MutantTurkey | git is a PITA for moving files |
| l0ner | argh |
| MutantTurkey | sorry :x |
| l0ner | I already didi |
| MutantTurkey | :[ |
| l0ner | anyway they dont build atm |
| l0ner | so no reason to keep them in main PKGBUILD dir |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I want to keep the structure pretty standard |
| MutantTurkey | you an use a different branch if you want |
| MutantTurkey | dirs should be |
| l0ner | and we should move konversation PKGBUILD to _broken dir, since it wont compile with our PKGBUILDs |
| MutantTurkey | TOP DIR -> version -> group -> package |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I don't like this broken idea because its a pita with git |
| MutantTurkey | I don't think git supports moving files well |
| MutantTurkey | basically it will show up as new files created and old ones deleted |
| MutantTurkey | bus is here gotta split |
| l0ner | anyway, atm concentrate at resolving why autotools packages are not building |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: yeah I think mysql is not so bad - darrell is just an idiot |
| MutantTurkey | Javascript? really.... |
| l0ner | well javascript is not so bad if used wisely |
| l0ner | and carefully |
| MutantTurkey | exactly |
| MutantTurkey | as long as it isn't like facebooks usage. |
| l0ner | not even facebook |
| l0ner | like I_am_so_awesome_I_have_hearts_that_follow_your_pointer_on_my_website usage |
| l0ner | I might have fixed our problem with autotool tqt detection |
| l0ner | there was a line i missed in the wiki |
| l0ner | tqtinterface should be in /usr |
| l0ner | we put it in /opt/trinity |
| l0ner | I modified tqtinterface PKGBUILD and now I'm setting up clean vm enviroment to test it |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | no no no |
| MutantTurkey | okay well fine :-) |
| MutantTurkey | i'd rather keep everythng in /opt |
| l0ner | if it works ;) we'll be at home ;) |
| l0ner | me, too |
| MutantTurkey | okay fine fine |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| l0ner | but one component we can sacrifice and put it in the /usr |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | and our git folder will be for when the git migration is done |
| MutantTurkey | essentially like te old svn builds |
| MutantTurkey | and dude, we are not packaging knetwork manager. |
| l0ner | why? |
| MutantTurkey | it's borked with the latest release |
| l0ner | argh! |
| MutantTurkey | see bug 549 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=549 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, knetworkmanager needs rewrite for network-manager API 0.9 and higher |
| MutantTurkey | just drop it, it sucks |
| MutantTurkey | nm-applet is way better imho |
| l0ner | ok, i use wcid anyway atm |
| MutantTurkey | and we should only have patches to fix compliation errors, all other patches should go upstream |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: me too ;) |
| l0ner | i had problems with nm-applet on arch |
| MutantTurkey | just use nm-applet on ubuntu |
| l0ner | i submitted patches for kdenetwork to the bugzilla |
| l0ner | since git migration isn't complete |
| MutantTurkey | okay what do they do? |
| l0ner | I don't remember :P minor fixes, |
| l0ner | i pretty much describe them |
| MutantTurkey | that is not a minor fix |
| MutantTurkey | it's 56k... |
| MutantTurkey | for both of them :P |
| l0ner | lol xD |
| l0ner | for me it's minor :P |
| MutantTurkey | and kpilot maybe we should drop - seems kinda like no one uses palm stuff |
| MutantTurkey | also, rosegarden I would say its useless |
| l0ner | yep, I was thinking about that |
| l0ner | well, not if you are musician :P |
| MutantTurkey | rosegarden has their own development team and the new version should be used |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I am a musician |
| MutantTurkey | and I use the new version |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| l0ner | ok |
| MutantTurkey | I think trinity should drop it altogether |
| MutantTurkey | its not essential to the 3.5 environment |
| l0ner | i was writing that |
| l0ner | :D |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | thoughts? |
| l0ner | drop EVERYTHING |
| l0ner | and start from scratch |
| l0ner | :P |
| l0ner | joking |
| MutantTurkey | yeah well. |
| MutantTurkey | infinite men and resources and I'd do that. |
| l0ner | me too xD |
| MutantTurkey | well many parts i would leave |
| MutantTurkey | some higher than others |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| l0ner | :) |
| l0ner | I'd drop even koffice, since it's useless atm |
| l0ner | and try to upgrade it when we have finished DE |
| MutantTurkey | yes that too |
| MutantTurkey | no F koffice |
| MutantTurkey | LibreOffice is much better |
| MutantTurkey | as far as I am concerned |
| MutantTurkey | and LibreOffice still sucks |
| l0ner | never used koffice, maybe becayse when i tried i got scared by its strange UI |
| l0ner | *Office sucks |
| l0ner | vim rux! latex rux! |
| MutantTurkey | yes :-) |
| MutantTurkey | I like markdown the most ;) |
| MutantTurkey | gotta catch the next bus |
| MutantTurkey | thanks for all the packages :-) |
| l0ner | no prob ;) |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: how many times You need to tak a bus?? |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: just two ;) |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | what comes after qt3 compilation, tqt? |
| l0ner | I'm too lazy to look it up on wiki |
| l0ner | :P |
| MutantTurkey | no idea |
| MutantTurkey | beats the hellouta me |
| l0ner | I'll try |
| MutantTurkey | thats why I wrote scripts :P |
| l0ner | it will poin me missing deps anyway xD |
| l0ner | oh, thet reminds me |
| l0ner | the script |
| l0ner | for batch building |
| l0ner | pushed it to git |
| l0ner | so any1 can use it |
| l0ner | after qt comes pyqt3 |
| * l0ner is zombiefiyng | |
| * l0ner ghghg | |
| l0ner | braaains... |
| MutantTurkey | Darrell is making me brain crazy |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: he remainds me kindo of RMS and his philosophy |
| l0ner | ayway it's called paranoid |
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| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | rms is crazy though, everyone knows that |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: Do you think we could use small cms for trinity website? To simplyfy content-creation, and themeing? |
| l0ner | but thanks to his craziness we have some nice things |
| MutantTurkey | No |
| MutantTurkey | what do you mean like what? |
| MutantTurkey | I am avoiding a cms |
| MutantTurkey | I did quite a bit of research around it |
| MutantTurkey | and we decided against it |
| l0ner | why? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't think you can be any simpler than using <p> |
| MutantTurkey | we use basic formatting, a webpage cant get any simpler |
| l0ner | maybe |
| MutantTurkey | themes are defined with a single css file |
| MutantTurkey | I think it could be good, but I think it leads to issues darrell is bringing up |
| MutantTurkey | this also incurs significant overhead for the server |
| l0ner | are we stripping php code from actual content? |
| MutantTurkey | huh? |
| MutantTurkey | the files are php files |
| l0ner | argh, so, no |
| l0ner | like, php files are engine and content sits where you want it, be it files or db |
| l0ner | when user requests page php renders pure html code and sends it to the user |
| l0ner | any modern website is doing it like this |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | oh maybe they are html |
| MutantTurkey | with little php snippets |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | but very minimally |
| l0ner | if you see .php files in your adress bar, using special string you can pretty much pass any php function to the file, and it will be executed before actuall page |
| l0ner | I've seen my friend doing it on biggest polish portal |
| l0ner | after 5mins he had their full server configuration and administrator access |
| l0ner | it's scary how easy it can be done |
| l0ner | that is main reason the cms were born in first place, to maximise site security |
| MutantTurkey | no no no |
| MutantTurkey | to maximise noob users on the internet |
| l0ner | not only |
| MutantTurkey | mostly |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: i started dev work with Qt |
| MutantTurkey | let me say I hate it :[ |
| MutantTurkey | I can't stand C++ |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | I prefer c++ |
| l0ner | rather than c |
| MutantTurkey | it's terrible |
| MutantTurkey | doesnt make sense |
| MutantTurkey | this object oriented design is so idiotic |
| l0ner | well... some things yes |
| l0ner | nah |
| l0ner | if you need to create object for one thing it's true |
| l0ner | but if you have +20 objects that differ only by name |
| l0ner | it becomes useful |
| MutantTurkey | but that is easily implemented in C |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: yeah for most apps its to much overhead to bother with |
| MutantTurkey | and C has the same objects |
| MutantTurkey | they are called structures :) |
| l0ner | struct foo() { } |
| l0ner | ? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| l0ner | well, they differ slightly, I attended whole 4h lesson on this... but I cant remember it |
| MutantTurkey | struct foo{ GtkWidget *window, GtkWidget *input, GtkWidget *dialog, int randomnumber} |
| MutantTurkey | and classes and private and public and slots |
| MutantTurkey | to much for me :) |
| MutantTurkey | anyway gotta go to dinner |
| MutantTurkey | cya :D |
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| l0ner | cay |
| l0ner | *cya |
| * l0ner needs go to sleep | |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: can you have a function inside struct? I don't think so (can be wrong tho). A object is collection of data types (variables) and functions to operate on those |
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| * l0ner is away: not sleepy | |
| * l0ner is back. | |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: just out of plain curiosity: what kind of server we have for our website, it is self-hosted or rented? |
| l0ner | and what technologies we have avaible on it? |
| MutantTurkey | all technologies you can think of |
| MutantTurkey | Timothy has a build farm and an extensive setup |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | great! |
| l0ner | After I build a new layout for our website I'll need some space to show it off... |
| MutantTurkey | your own server |
| l0ner | i don't have one :( |
| MutantTurkey | don't expect this to get rolled out fas, probably not till the next release |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: you do |
| l0ner | really? |
| MutantTurkey | are you connceted t othe internet right now? |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | ba dum bump! |
| MutantTurkey | a server! |
| l0ner | i know |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| l0ner | i tried |
| MutantTurkey | and? |
| l0ner | but my router is too stupid to redirect traffic incoming from net on port 80 to something in my internal network |
| l0ner | I tried to redirect some of his external ports to my vms to control then through ssh |
| l0ner | not works |
| MutantTurkey | welp |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: dunno |
| l0ner | ayway: you can try l0ner.dyndns.org |
| l0ner | probably you'll get error |
| l0ner | http://l0ner.dyndns.org/~soltys/ |
| l0ner | thereticaly it should work |
| l0ner | *theoretically |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: yeah no go |
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| l0ner | my stupid router |
| l0ner | once i had a really ice wrt54g |
| l0ner | but the wan port has gone with somke |
| l0ner | *smoke |
| MutantTurkey | jeez |
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| joeyw | hey guys... |
| MutantTurkey | hey dude |
| joeyw | anyone know how to install trinity on gentoo? |
| l0ner | don't try to |
| l0ner | :P |
| joeyw | why not? |
| l0ner | I tried and switched to arch |
| l0ner | it's pain in the ass |
| joeyw | right now i am downloading 3.5.13-monolithic.tar.gz. |
| l0ner | mostly because of hal deps |
| MutantTurkey | isn't someone working on ebuilds? |
| l0ner | serghei? |
| l0ner | i had his ebuild form his git |
| l0ner | they were terrible |
| joeyw | lol |
| joeyw | that sucks though. |
| l0ner | i know |
| l0ner | try arch, it's quite similiar to gentoo |
| l0ner | and we have somethink like ebuilds for trinity |
| joeyw | does the whole thing depend on hal? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | still |
| MutantTurkey | no what? |
| MutantTurkey | why cant you just build ha |
| MutantTurkey | hal? |
| l0ner | when i tried to comppile it manually, i fscked my whole gentoo installation, when i tried to install it form overlays, i fscked my portage tree |
| MutantTurkey | really? |
| MutantTurkey | welp |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | maybe i just had bad luck |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I dunno |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 750 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=750 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Akregator default feeds all point to KDE sites |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 751 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=751 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdegraphics: Inadvertent changtes to tqt syntax |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 751 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=751 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdegraphics: Inadvertent changes to tqt syntax |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=747 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, arts: jack support isn't enabled by cmake |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 752 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=752 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdepim: Fix inadvertent 'tqt' changes |
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| l0ner | !seen MutantTurkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: MutantTurkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 1 day, 16 hours, 44 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> yeah I dunno |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 753 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=753 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesktop lock fails to hide screen under memory pressure |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
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| MutantlTurkey | l0ner yo |
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| l0ner | MutanlTurkey: yo! |
| MutanlTurkey | whats up |
| MutanlTurkey | responding now |
| l0ner | great |
| l0ner | I'm building digikam pkgbuild |
| MutanlTurkey | good |
| MutanlTurkey | now that we are both working on git |
| MutanlTurkey | we need to make out commits clearer |
| MutanlTurkey | "new pkgbuilds" is not helpful |
| l0ner | kay |
| MutanlTurkey | "Added PKGBUILDs, digikam, lolol balh blah" is better |
| MutanlTurkey | I am just as guilty though |
| l0ner | ok, i'll keep that in mind |
| MutanlTurkey | I use bad namings as well |
| MutanlTurkey | :-) |
| MutanlTurkey | want to organize it a bit? |
| MutanlTurkey | maybe like this: |
| l0ner | god... I forget about i18n |
| MutanlTurkey | kdebase - fixed the pkgbuild |
| MutanlTurkey | konversation - added patch, thanks patchdoode |
| l0ner | looks good |
| MutanlTurkey | i18n... fuck |
| MutanlTurkey | i am glad I know english xD |
| l0ner | besides... it will be tricky to create i18n PKGBUILD |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | since we hat tarball which provides... tarballs |
| MutanlTurkey | yeah |
| MutanlTurkey | seriously |
| l0ner | and each of this tarballs have separate ./configure |
| MutanlTurkey | wow |
| MutanlTurkey | blech |
| l0ner | i thought about commented list of lang codes ex: #lang=pl_PL |
| l0ner | #lang=it_IT |
| MutanlTurkey | yeah |
| MutanlTurkey | but we'd need to automate it |
| MutanlTurkey | or just seperate pkgbuilds |
| MutanlTurkey | how does mozilla do it? |
| l0ner | and then we add instrutctions to build this one lang |
| MutanlTurkey | firefox has each a package for each one |
| MutanlTurkey | we could just create a trinity-i18n folder |
| l0ner | i'd sat separate pkgbuilds in -i18n group |
| MutanlTurkey | yes |
| l0ner | *say |
| MutanlTurkey | okay |
| MutanlTurkey | sounds good |
| MutanlTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | :) |
| l0ner | later I'll mod my script for batch binaries |
| l0ner | that will help us build them easily |
| MutanlTurkey | yes |
| MutanlTurkey | we need to remove the build folders though |
| l0ner | main problem of separate pkgbuilds for i18n is that tarball we pull form net is somthing like 300Mb |
| l0ner | makepkg -c |
| MutanlTurkey | because if cmake fails ,and you fix the problem... it will still fail until you delte the cmake files |
| MutanlTurkey | cool |
| MutanlTurkey | speperate package builds oh dang |
| MutanlTurkey | split pkgbuilds Ithink is how you can do it |
| l0ner | one PKGBUILD that makes more binaries, is this possible? |
| l0ner | argh... |
| * l0ner is begginigt to hate opera | |
| * l0ner wants small web browser that integrates well into trinity! and is not called firefox. and renders css3 pages | |
| MutanlTurkey | yeah |
| MutanlTurkey | welp. |
| MutanlTurkey | i wrote myown browser |
| MutanlTurkey | thats what I use |
| l0ner | share |
| l0ner | ! |
| MutanlTurkey | http://github.com/mutantturkey/ |
| MutanlTurkey | its gtkwebkit based |
| MutanlTurkey | honestly konqueror is OK |
| l0ner | i know |
| l0ner | i'd use it |
| l0ner | but most of pages i look at... look like hell in konqueror |
| l0ner | and the only thing that really keeps mi in opera is its quicklaunch page |
| MutanlTurkey | yeah |
| MutanlTurkey | it sucks |
| MutanlTurkey | well I want to love opera |
| MutanlTurkey | but i cant seem to |
| MutanlTurkey | I hate firefox and chrome |
| MutanlTurkey | chrome is bloated |
| MutanlTurkey | firefox is clunk |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | and still chrome is smallest atm |
| l0ner | flirex is a monster atm |
| l0ner | and opera is... well... qt+gkt in one browser don't seem like a good idea |
| l0ner | &firefox |
| l0ner | lol... I invented new name for webbrowser: flirex! |
| l0ner | xD |
| MutanlTurkey | yeah |
| MutanlTurkey | sb is the way to goo :_ |
| MutanlTurkey | :) |
| l0ner | :) |
| l0ner | anyway i don't think we can prevent pulling monolithic packets each time an app is built... |
| l0ner | the best thing we do is to use script that download it once and then copies it for each PKGBUILD |
| l0ner | besides I don't think there will be many of users that will have the will to customize trinity for arch and build the manually, once we provide binaries |
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| MutanlTurkey | weeyoowoo |
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| Strangelv | Has anything been added to firefox after version 4 besides bugs and incompatibilities? |
| * Strangelv still keeps an instance of 2 running -- the stability of 4 but with less memory usage -- despite being considered notoriously bad about memory usage in its day | |
| l0ner | dunno |
| l0ner | they added bloat |
| l0ner | and unability to be compiled on 32bit amchines |
| Strangelv | I've tried to get 4 to run on my machien but it seems to look for a newer version and then fire that version up instead |
| Strangelv | I may need to resort to trying to run 3.6, which isn't stable on any machien I've had -- although it's less unstable than 3.0 was by a considerable margin |
| * l0ner is thinking about using lynx | |
| l0ner | or viewing webpages in pure html |
| Strangelv | Don't need to go that far -- firefox 2 works with any site that's still HTML 4 compatible. Unfortunately, Slashdot and Wikia are among the sites that seem to not be anymore |
| Strangelv | It also has a much better interface than its successors -- and absolutely better than Chrome |
| * Strangelv really can't deal with Chromhe' interface anddoesn't know how to change it to be like Firefox 2 with Tab Mix Plus | |
| l0ner | well.. I don't really care about ui |
| l0ner | for me best ui is the smallest one |
| l0ner | besides I have one small theory |
| * Strangelv needs a UI that he can operate. If it's effectively designed to sabotage him like KDE 4 or something, he has difficulties | |
| l0ner | if browser supports plugins... it sucks. most of the plugins are memory monsters |
| Strangelv | What's the theory? |
| Strangelv | I must adbmit I use about a dozen plugins |
| Strangelv | It would help to know which ones are memory monsters |
| l0ner | i remember having firefox 2 without plugins... 80mb of ram, the added flashblock, adblock and it goes up to 300mb |
| Strangelv | "I really hope it's not one I rely on, like Tab Mix Plus, NoScript, Session Saver, et c. |
| Strangelv | I also have flashblock as NoScript wasn't eneough to stop Gnash from coming up anyway |
| l0ner | try turning them one by one and observing how's the memory consumption |
| Strangelv | "I'd need to havze it up and running without restoring my session |
| Strangelv | "idf someone else did this and documented it somewhere it would make it a lot easier |
| l0ner | don't look at me... atm i feel pure hate towards firefox |
| * Strangelv really, realyl needs to get to sleep one of these hours. He may finalyl be getting there | |
| Strangelv | "nderstood |
| l0ner | besides I'd like to finish PKGBUILDs for arch befor 22 |
| l0ner | *before 22/12/2011 |
| l0ner | I'll be away for some time after this date |
| Strangelv | "Presumably this comparison guide would be online somewhere. I need to try looking for it again sometime, but ot nowv |
| Strangelv | "Good luck |
| l0ner | thx ;) |
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| l0ner | MutanlTurkey: which trinity components should be dropped in your opinion? |
| l0ner | since they are useless or continued by other teams? |
| MutanlTurkey | let me look |
| MutanlTurkey | brb gotta restart my pc |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: we have k3b! |
| MutantTurkey | cool :-) |
| MutantTurkey | i gotta reboot again :/ |
| l0ner | argh |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | sorry my graphics card |
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| l0ner | ktorrent! |
| MutantTurkey | back |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
| MutantTurkey | ktorrent sucks though |
| MutantTurkey | it always crashed |
| MutantTurkey | I am trying to getQtC bindings |
| l0ner | never crashed for me |
| l0ner | the newest version form kdemod3 yes, it crashes |
| l0ner | QtC bindings? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | Qt for C |
| MutantTurkey | or TQt for C |
| MutantTurkey | so I can program in C :-) |
| MutantTurkey | it already exists, just needs tqt porting afaik |
| l0ner | have fun ;) |
| l0ner | I'm thinking about moving to i18n |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | you're really making progress lol |
| MutantTurkey | I am slow bloat |
| MutantTurkey | also another thing - |
| MutantTurkey | about commits |
| l0ner | yep? |
| MutantTurkey | many small commits |
| MutantTurkey | rathe than one large commit |
| l0ner | that's what I've begun doing ;) |
| MutantTurkey | good :-) |
| l0ner | just now |
| MutantTurkey | because you can commit 20 times |
| MutantTurkey | and push once |
| l0ner | ok ;) |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| l0ner | and btw: like I said, i18n is 301mb atm |
| l0ner | maybe we should ask Tim if he could put every tarball that sits inside main tarbal as a separate file in one dir on the server |
| l0ner | like for apps, libraries and so on |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I dunno |
| MutantTurkey | you can ask :-) |
| l0ner | i18n/kde-i18n-${langcode}.tar.gz2 |
| MutantTurkey | split packages |
| l0ner | I'll do, It will simplify a lot |
| l0ner | yep |
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| Xu_R|School | ./join #arklinux |
| Xu_R|School | damnit >_> |
| MutantTurkey | ark? |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|School: what's been up buddy |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: wrote mail to Tim, we'll see what he thinks about it. |
| MutantTurkey | http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/gcc |
| MutantTurkey | look at this |
| MutantTurkey | it's the solution |
| MutantTurkey | its a spit pkgbuild |
| MutantTurkey | like i told you |
| MutantTurkey | basically you can do all those packages with one file |
| Xu_R|School | MutantTurkey: hey, how's it going :D |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: GREAT!! |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| l0ner | I'm gonna dig it! |
| MutantTurkey | word |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|School: one final left :) |
| Xu_R|School | MutantTurkey: nice :D our finals are in January D: |
| l0ner | mine too ;( |
| l0ner | from 23 january to 8 of march |
| Xu_R|School | >_< |
| Xu_R|School | ours are the whole of January D; |
| MutantTurkey | terrible |
| MutantTurkey | I don't even go back till the 20 of jan |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: how do you say Pawel? |
| MutantTurkey | "pah-well?" |
| MutantTurkey | or "Paul"? |
| l0ner | Paweu |
| l0ner | It's pretty much polish version of Paul |
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| MutantTurkey | Paweu |
| MutantTurkey | how do you pronounce eu |
| MutantTurkey | like what else? |
| l0ner | aw.. dunno |
| MutantTurkey | like cordon bleu? |
| l0ner | wait.. lemme think |
| MutantTurkey | like french? |
| MutantTurkey | sort of ew sounding |
| l0ner | nope |
| MutantTurkey | lol i give up |
| l0ner | http://translate.google.com/#pl|pl|paweł |
| l0ner | there is a little nice button that speaks it to you xD |
| MutantTurkey | http://translate.google.com/#auto|ro|pawel%20ist%20ein%20crackernoodler |
| MutantTurkey | speak it |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | pawel is ein noodle cracker |
| MutantTurkey | so we drop rosearden |
| MutantTurkey | kradio I dunno about |
| MutantTurkey | koffice drop |
| MutantTurkey | kpowersave needs patching |
| MutantTurkey | knetwork drop |
| MutantTurkey | dolphin? |
| l0ner | we have it |
| l0ner | useless with konqueror |
| l0ner | http://translate.google.com/#auto|ar|pikachu |
| l0ner | listen to it |
| MutantTurkey | yeah konq sucks |
| l0ner | wait, dolphin sux |
| l0ner | konq rulz! |
| l0ner | xD |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: lol yah |
| l0ner | we have 71 locales xD |
| l0ner | in one PKGBUILD |
| MutantTurkey | thats perfec |
| MutantTurkey | disconnect my braaaaiinnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| MutantTurkey | "matt guitar murphy!" |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hwt5lvQ3zw |
| MutantTurkey | meh crappy live version |
| l0ner | "ghghagwghghgh GRRRRRR!" - Berzerker - No one ever wins |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | what? |
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| l0ner | search for it on yt |
| MutantTurkey | sounds angry |
| l0ner | it's more what I'd listen to |
| l0ner | but they are even too extreme for me |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | for me today: slayer all the way! |
| MutantTurkey | pfft |
| MutantTurkey | so dumb |
| MutantTurkey | I don't mind athiests |
| MutantTurkey | and I'm pretty much one myself |
| l0ner | me too |
| MutantTurkey | but people who spend all their time bashing a god they don't believe in bothers me |
| MutantTurkey | it's like - OK WE GET IT YOU DONT LIKE GOD... |
| l0ner | slayer dont bash gos |
| l0ner | *god |
| MutantTurkey | i'm into more jazz/bluez |
| MutantTurkey | Coheed and Cambria at all? |
| MutantTurkey | they're sick |
| l0ner | well... i grew up listening to black sabbath, metallica and RAMMSTEIN |
| MutantTurkey | lol I did metallica for a long time |
| MutantTurkey | I like more interesting stuff |
| MutantTurkey | metallica gets old |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | rammstein is a joke over here |
| MutantTurkey | check out Alestorm |
| MutantTurkey | no joke |
| l0ner | lol xD |
| MutantTurkey | Pirate metal |
| l0ner | lulz! |
| MutantTurkey | its awesome |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL65oumesqE |
| l0ner | I'll keep that name in mind |
| MutantTurkey | bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi |
| MutantTurkey | whoops |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBW7MZhhLc4&feature=related |
| MutantTurkey | check hem out |
| MutantTurkey | it's funny but awesome |
| l0ner | kaay ;) |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| MutantTurkey | also, Nightwish? |
| l0ner | ultimately I've been listening to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BLJPCcjg7I |
| l0ner | well, nightwish is nice |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| MutantTurkey | I've liked them for a long while |
| l0ner | and if we are talking about thematic metal bands: check out sabaton |
| l0ner | me too |
| MutantTurkey | blech I don't like metal really |
| MutantTurkey | just a few :) |
| MutantTurkey | Coheed and Cambria is my favorite band, followed by Mew and from there it's all over the place - rock wise |
| MutantTurkey | Jazz i'm a big glen miller fan |
| MutantTurkey | but who isnt ;) |
| l0ner | someone who don't know him |
| l0ner | (me) :P |
| MutantTurkey | oh man |
| l0ner | anyway I listen pretty much to everything |
| l0ner | excluded pop and trashtechno you can usually hear in the discos |
| l0ner | Alestorm is nice ;) |
| MutantTurkey | yes hehe |
| l0ner | :D |
| MutantTurkey | just funny and pleasant to listen to |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: drop kpackage too |
| MutantTurkey | or we should write an libalpm interface to it... |
| l0ner | lol i don't have it on my list :P |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | and I took names from the tarball list |
| MutantTurkey | its in kadmin |
| MutantTurkey | i think |
| l0ner | ok... I'll remember about it |
| l0ner | atm we build it |
| l0ner | if its in kadmin |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | but it's useless |
| MutantTurkey | well or us |
| l0ner | damn... I can't remember what i used to strip file extension form filename stored in a variable... |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| * l0ner thinks that Vangelis is a genius | |
| MutantTurkey | who? |
| l0ner | Vangelis |
| MutantTurkey | did he do film work? |
| MutantTurkey | like music scores |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | I swear like blade runner or sometihng |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | knew it |
| l0ner | and Chariots of Fire |
| MutantTurkey | he's not so popular in US |
| MutantTurkey | not like bad, but just unheard of mostly |
| MutantTurkey | I just know that because ilove blade runner :) |
| l0ner | here mostly too |
| l0ner | xD |
| * l0ner too | |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | hes works are nice to listen to when you are coding :) |
| MutantTurkey | I like to go with like glen miller while coding |
| MutantTurkey | cup of coffee, glen miller |
| MutantTurkey | ya know |
| MutantTurkey | sit back |
| l0ner | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | rela |
| MutantTurkey | x' |
| l0ner | for me it is always a cup of tea while coding |
| l0ner | for the music it depends how do i feel |
| l0ner | if I'm in the zen, evil zen of destroy everything state |
| MutantTurkey | tea is great too |
| * l0ner nods | |
| MutantTurkey | sigh |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: can you do me a favor and fix the hal package? |
| MutantTurkey | if you are working on it |
| MutantTurkey | we can just have it in our tree, but keep the original name |
| l0ner | what's up with it? |
| MutantTurkey | because I own it in the AUR now so we can use it for trinity |
| MutantTurkey | it won't build |
| MutantTurkey | but it can be built with a small patch afaik |
| MutantTurkey | the comments explain it |
| l0ner | ok, I'll look at it later |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | now I'm finishing i18n |
| l0ner | pkgdescs left |
| l0ner | and I need to figure out what the lang codeas mean |
| l0ner | *codes |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | no idea |
| MutantTurkey | I am so lost with all of that |
| MutantTurkey | have you hit any kdebase build errors l0ner, because schreiberstein hits this one in kdebase |
| l0ner | nope |
| l0ner | do he uses our PKGBUILDs? |
| MutantTurkey | yah man |
| l0ner | hmmm... details? |
| * l0ner needs to go... food time | |
| * l0ner is away: food | |
| MutantTurkey | yeah okay |
| l0ner | .me is back! |
| * l0ner is back. | |
| MutantTurkey | yay |
| MutantTurkey | yo |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: |
| MutantTurkey | want to do seperate components for kdebase as well? |
| MutantTurkey | :x |
| l0ner | nah |
| l0ner | I don't see reasons behind splitting it |
| MutantTurkey | ok :[ |
| MutantTurkey | see my thread I just started |
| MutantTurkey | on the ML |
| l0ner | they are meant to be installed together |
| l0ner | k |
| MutantTurkey | modular is the way to go ithink |
| * l0ner thinks so too | |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| l0ner | as it goes for me, I'd split whole trinity into 3 components: Trinity Libs, Trinity Desktop Enviroment and Trinity Apps. And call the whole thing Trinity Project |
| l0ner | Trinity libs: qt3, tdelibs and other libs |
| l0ner | TDE: things only needed for desktop Enviroment |
| l0ner | Trinity apps: apps based on Trinity libs, but which do not require TDE to be run. |
| l0ner | it's like I'd do this |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | so you could not need kdbase and have digikam |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | anyway, it's like this with my PKGBUILDs |
| l0ner | what is in -apps group don't have kdebase as dep |
| l0ner | and compile only against kdelibs |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | thats good |
| l0ner | not like kde4 apps which pull half kde |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | I doscovered a nice thing |
| l0ner | *discovered |
| l0ner | we have kashubian localization |
| l0ner | which is a polish dialect xD |
| MutantTurkey | thats cool |
| MutantTurkey | wonder if its in date |
| l0ner | who knows... |
| l0ner | I can look, but I can't correct anything |
| l0ner | I dont know this dialect that good |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| l0ner | I... finished? |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | i18n |
| l0ner | testing if it works |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| MutantTurkey | you havent been touching kdebase right? |
| MutantTurkey | I have to push a change |
| l0ner | nope |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I don't see your thread on ML |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | devel lis |
| l0ner | nothing |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | standalone konqueror? |
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| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: exactly |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: damn... I think building localizations will take a while... |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 669 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=669 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, new screen locker with dual-head setup: secondary screen doesn't get hidden! |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: really? |
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| l0ner | yep |
| * l0ner wants to install Plan9 | |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 753 as a duplicate of bug 669. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=753 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, kdesktop lock fails to hide screen under memory pressure |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=669 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, new screen locker with dual-head setup: secondary screen doesn't get hidden! |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 429 as a duplicate of bug 554. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=429 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Kicker crashes because of Esc key |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: rocking the modularization discussion |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully tim hears us out |
| MutantTurkey | it's a good move from wha ti see |
| MutantTurkey | gotta go |
| MutantTurkey | laptops at 4 percent xD |
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| KingSphinx | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/razor-qt-new-lightweight-desktop.html Seems rather interesting. |
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| l0ner | join #cotonti |
| l0ner | damn... |
| * l0ner is away: sleep | |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 754 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=754 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdelibs: Improve informational text in the Report Bugs Help menu option |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 754 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 723 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=723 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Error message when clicking on System icon on sidebar in konqueror |
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| Piki | does anybody know if tim's quickbuild dropped off? apt seems stuck on his server, but the site is still up |
| Piki | ah, it's the uidaho mirror that's holding it up... nothing wrong with tim's servers this time |
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| blarz | hi, could it be that all the mirrors are not workign at the moment? |
| blarz | found the mailinglist archives. sorry for the noise |
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| l0ner | no prob blarz |
| l0ner | damn... |
| l0ner | why oh, why the mirrors went down?? I'll need to update all the PKGBUILDs... |
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| MutantTurkey | wow I love trinity |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | what does everyone use for their window decorations? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 755 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=755 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdebase: Can't build package with -DWITH_HAL build option |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 755 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 756 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=756 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror: Does not update file pane with file changes |
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| K`zan | Just fwiw Guys: |
| K`zan | Reading package lists... Error! |
| K`zan | E: Encountered a section with no Package: header |
| K`zan | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net_trinity_trinity_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| K`zan | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 424 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=424 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, can't install package yakuake-trinity |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 209 as a duplicate of bug 725. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=209 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, doesnt install the kde3libs |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=725 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, sudo-trinity conflicts with sudo |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 398 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=398 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, keditfiletype does not save file associations when called from within gnome session |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 757 filed by jayaramanmani@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=757 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, not able to install trinity |
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| sandman | Hello |
| sandman | Seems that the repo download site is dead, no? |
| sandman | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f16/trinity-3.5.13-f16.repo resolves and auto redirects to http://inga.lv/ |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 569 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=569 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, regression: javascript breakage, apparently in regexes |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 419 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=419 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, "Shutdown" option in KDM menu hangs KDM |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Component on bug 444 from other (any) to debian. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=444 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, fusion-icon-trinity missing dependent packages |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 228 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=228 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Cannot automount NTFS usb |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 84 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=84 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, KDE4 kdelibs-data conflicts with KDE3 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 458 as a duplicate of bug 489. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=458 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, abiword and pidgin run only as root |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=489 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Pidgin Fails to launch |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 442 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=442 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, libexiv2-4-trinity package missing |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 417 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=417 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kde-kde3 from Maverick fails |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 745 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=745 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kghostview-trinity - bad gs dependency - should be ghostscript |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 445 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=445 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, filelight-trinity bad versions of dependent packages |
| sandman | Seems that the repo download site is dead, no? |
| sandman | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f16/trinity-3.5.13-f16.repo resolves and auto redirects to http://inga.lv/ |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 469 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=469 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, soundkonverter-amarok-trinity dependicy problem |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 125 from REOPENED to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=125 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Installation from CD halts prematurely |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 155 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=155 critical, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, iso will not boot |
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| jmux | Hi. http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity is broken and redirects to http://inga.lv/. Unfortunately debmirror downloaded and replaced the Release files, so my mirror is now broken. |
| jmux | Does someone have a working mirror with Release files for Lucid of trinity-v3.5.13 and trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13 and send them to me via DCC? |
| sandman | @jmux it has been dead for at least the last 7 hours :-( |
| sandman | I pinged the list then but I guess the guys in charge are asleep |
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| Mias | hi |
| Mias | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity --> not found! |
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| jmux | Mias: http://trinity-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::16 |
| l0ner | and this is why we should have a news system! |
| l0ner | most of users will miss that announce, because they don't follow the maillist |
| Mias | ah thx |
| jmux | l0ner: someone could update the "News" area of trinitydesktop.org and maybe adapt the channel info. Should not be that hard.... |
| l0ner | I worte about this to Calvin, maybe he can do something about it. |
| Mias | a hint in the topic would not be wrong, also |
| jmux | sandman: Out of sheer luck my 2nd mirror, which is always a day behind, is still ok; so I don't have to postpone our X-Mas release. |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 756 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=756 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Konqueror: Does not update file pane with file changes |
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| elkng | will Trinity be migrated to Qt4 ? |
| Xu_R | elkng: we don't know right now. There were plans, but we really have a lack of manpower to attempt this. |
| elkng | will it be slower after changing qt3 to qt4 ? |
| Xu_R | elkng: we don't know. at its current unfinished state, the tqt4 interface does run slower, so... |
| elkng | is trinity slower than KDE 3.5.* now ? |
| Xu_R | imho, no. |
| elkng | the main goal is to fresh codebase add new features and preserve old KDE's look ? |
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| l0ner | elking: I don't think Trinity will be ported to Qt4, since we have full control over Qt3 right now, and Qt3 is a part of trinity |
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| l0ner | elking: and pretty much yes, maintain kde3.5.x features, look and feel while replacing some components that got broken while it was unmaintained. |
| l0ner | elking: anyway that's what I understood over time I was hanging here and on the ML. For official statements you should ask Tim. |
| K`zan | Still problems: |
| K`zan | elkng: Encountered a section with no Package: header |
| K`zan | elkng: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net_trinity_trinity_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| K`zan | elkng: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| K`zan | elkng: _cache->open() failed, please report. |
| K`zan | Taking out trinity.list and trinity.list.save out of /etc/apt/sources.list.d at least allows me to update. |
| K`zan | Ah, also getting that error on the sources too (Ubuntu 10.10). |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 753 from RESOLVED DUPLICATE to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=753 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, kdesktop lock fails to hide screen under memory pressure |
| elkng | "As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance of Qt3.", the trinitydesktop's maintainers are the only maintainers of qt3 now ? |
| elkng | is it simple to build 3.5.13 from source ? |
| l0ner | yep, qt3 is maintained by trinity team |
| l0ner | and as for building from source, if you follow wiki closely and stay careful to insall tqt in /usr and include --enable-closure while compiling using autotools |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 753 as a duplicate of bug 669. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=753 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, kdesktop lock fails to hide screen under memory pressure |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=669 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, new screen locker with dual-head setup: secondary screen doesn't get hidden! |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 752 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=752 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdepim: Fix inadvertent 'tqt' changes |
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| mitchell | My AP update/install links for Trinity have been giving me a error for the past two days, any others notice that or have a solution? |
| mitchell | W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ natty/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net_trinity_trinity-v3.5.13_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages) |
| Strangelv | "Are you using a mirror? Someone reported a mirror being down earlier |
| mitchell | Strangelv, don't think so, those links are above and one other |
| mitchell | W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ natty/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net_trinity_trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages) |
| mitchell | is the other one giving me problems |
| * Strangelv is unfortunately out of guesses. He's still running Meekat and TDE 12 | |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 756 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=756 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror: Does not update file pane with file changes |
| mitchell | I see, well I could entirely remove all trinity ppa links and then re-add them to see if that clears up the problem ? |
| Strangelv | "Not sure how that would help if it's the same links. Waiyt. You're getting it to work normalyl but are just getting the duplica'te warning? |
| Strangelv | "Sorry. I'm not as with it as I thought |
| Strangelv | "Option 1: just ignore the warning |
| Strangelv | Option 2: find and comment out the duplicate entry |
| mitchell | well the warning slugs the updater everytime it runs, the only possible duplicate entry is the deb vs deb-src |
| mitchell | Do I need the AP deb-src updates vs just the deb or both deb and deb-src AP ? |
| mitchell | typo, mean PPA's |
| mitchell | W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net natty InRelease: File /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net_trinity_trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13_ubuntu_dists_natty_InRelease doesn't start with a clearsigned message |
| mitchell | Just checked the Trinity gpg key, that's the same and correctly stored on this box, why the gpg error coming out of Trinity's main PPA packages then? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 758 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=758 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, krandrtray screen switch is too slow |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 758 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| Xu_R | Just like to remind you people that the Trinity repo is down due to unforseen circumstances. :3 |
| Xu_R | (which may be a cause of your problems, apt can be... wrong sometimes) |
| mitchell | I'm getting a duplicate error, do I need BOTH the deb and deb-src ppa's ? |
| Xu_R | no, just the deb ppa |
| Xu_R | and it's down, don't bother trying >_> |
| Xu_R | wait until he announces on the ML that it's back up :| |
| mitchell | thanks, Xu_R, it's likely with the repo DOWN that is the major problem on this end regarding the errors etc. |
| mitchell | been down 2 days and counting now :( |
| Xu_R | mitchell: exactly. apt is like that. |
| Xu_R | mitchell: well, tim' |
| Xu_R | s really stressed right now :-\ |
| mitchell | understood, I'm slightly bothered by the gpg error coming back also from that repo |
| Xu_R | it's probably because mirror.tokra.lv is returning old/bad files |
| * mitchell I'll just wait, it's fine I have TDE on this desktop with Gnome 2.3x and Razor qt | |
| Xu_R | because that mirror stopped updating, so... yea. |
| Xu_R | nice, Razor Qt! :D |
| mitchell | yes, I wrote some info on it in the Mint Forum if anyone wants that link just shout |
| mitchell | fast,compact and a nice alt. to have |
| mitchell | I'm puzzled by the two forks on Gnome 2.3x, one being a buggy MATE the other is Cinnimon which seems to be more active in regards to developers, thoughts? |
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| Xu_R | not really >_> other than they're going to have to break backward compat soon somehow |
| Xu_R | MATE has already done that >>;; |
| mitchell | So all the gnome apps under 2.3x wouldn't work with that forked gnome shell you mean Xu_R ? |
| Xu_R | well, yea. you'd have to rebuild them for MATE. |
| mitchell | Razor qt seems to tolerate my gnome apps ok |
| Xu_R | it's a sticking point we have to deal with here at Trinity, but tbh, this far in everyone'll have to compile Trinity anyway :P |
| Xu_R | mitchell: didn't try with gnome apps - that's a good sign :P |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com marked bug 389 as a duplicate of bug 335. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=389 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Activation Effects |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=335 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror Icon Activation Effect |
| mitchell | Trinity looks nice, a full featured enviroment, a nice alternative to unity,Gnome 3.x, but qt is designed to be open platform and fast,lightweight |
| Xu_R | aye. Well, concerning the fact that Qt4 is a bit slow like a donkey's @$$ at times, well... I hope it gets faster >>;; |
| mitchell | the newest 0.4 of Razor you mean, Xu_R ? |
| Xu_R | no, just Qt4 in general. |
| mitchell | oh, ok, I haven't run a direct comparison on that Xu_R, but the memory load is very small with Razor qt, and it's really in modules for users to add or not |
| Xu_R | well, tbh, it's about time Qt got a lightweight desktop |
| Xu_R | most of the lightweight desktops have been gtk-based |
| mitchell | yes, Xu_R most are gtk based, if I recall the memory load on Razor qt was around 28mb |
| Xu_R | mitchell: very lightweight indeed :D |
| mitchell | In these bloated times, yes it is Xu_R |
| mitchell | Here is the article I wrote on it: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=89459 |
| mitchell | I'm pushing to have Linux Mint add the Trinity desktop as a alternative, they have a KDE flavor of Mint, time will tell! |
| Xu_R | we need to become more stable first ;) |
| Xu_R | maybe R14... |
| mitchell | perhaps Xu_R, I look forward to seeing a updated release of TDE |
| Strangelv | "How does 13 compare with 12 for stability? |
| Strangelv | :: is still running 12 |
| Strangelv | :: probabyl needs to resort to upgrading in any case otherwise he's going to need to reinstall to upgrade -- something he was trying to avoid by going with MTeerkat instead of the LTS |
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| KingSphinx | Is it me, or does tbottu go out a lot now? |
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| Strangelv | "...and/or uptime difficulties |
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| mephisto | hi. whats happend with trinity mirror? |
| jmux | mephisto: http://trinity-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::16 |
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| Agnaroth | Helloo, I've tried to install trinity from a debian ... but the mirrors are unavailable ... does anybody know the reason? |
| Agnaroth | Do you know if Crowdfunding is used to finance the project? |
| * TokRa does | |
| * TokRa has discontinued the mirroring service due to the lack of resources available :( | |
| * TokRa is sorry | |
| Agnaroth | how many GB do they need? |
| TokRa | about 30 to 50 |
| Agnaroth | I've got a home server ... I can help a |
| Agnaroth | ups ... |
| Agnaroth | and use de debtorrent: Sistem to install ? |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 676 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=676 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Make the default window placement Center rather than Smart |
| Agnaroth | This project could help distributing it on debian derivates ... ?? |
| Agnaroth | http://wiki.debian.org/DebTorrent |
| Agnaroth | so it could be easy distribute ... just one server for the packages without http service and the trinity comunity supporting the bandwith load |
| Agnaroth | This are my suggestions... and ideas! :-) |
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| hallvor | eil http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net squeeze Release.gpg |
| hallvor | Klarte ikkje kopla til mirror.tokra.lv:80 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111: Oppkobling nektes) |
| hallvor | am getting an error, it says connection refused |
| hallvor | running debian squeeze repositories |
| hallvor | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#debian |
| * TokRa has discontinued the mirroring service due to the lack of resources available :( | |
| hallvor | oh.. any alternative mirrors? |
| hallvor | :( |
| TokRa | Unfortunately, http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity is down as well :( |
| hallvor | darn.. went for a reinstall of kopete-triniry and could remove it but not reinstall |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 759 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=759 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KPersonalizer TDE settings contradict the defaults |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 759 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| Piki | it seems the whole trinity repository mirror system is down, apt can't seem to connect to any of the mirrors that tim's quickbuild is directing it to |
| TokRa | It does |
| TokRa | UIdaho's server is out of reach |
| * TokRa has stopped the mirroring service as well, due to the lach of resources :( | |
| Piki | i noticed uidaho the other day, but now literally none of the mirrors that apt has tried from the quickbuild round robin seem to work |
| Piki | i've been trying since 8 this morning, it's now nearly 17:00 where i am |
| TokRa | :( |
| Piki | hopefully once i have a job, i can reactivate my account with my vps and get an extra mirror going |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 760 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDE seems to exit too slow |
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| backwoodsman | Anyone have an update on the mirror problem? |
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| rustyshakelford2 | I can't seem to find a working mirror for debian squeeze, can anyone help me out? |
| Xu_R | rustyshakelford2: the mirror system suffered a permanent failure :| |
| Xu_R | we're trying to pull it back up ASAP |
| rustyshakelford2 | thanks for the heads up. by any chance do you have an eta? |
| Xu_R | rustyshakelford2: because I'm currently not the one managing the situation, I do not. However, on the mailing lists, Tim (the leader of the project) noted that not anytime before January 1st :( |
| Xu_R | everything was going so well for us too :( |
| rustyshakelford2 | That sucks. Guess my new server will be cli only for a while. :/ |
| Xu_R | :/ it does... |
| rustyshakelford2 | I found an iso with wheezy and trinity at http://exe-linux.fastfishwebsolutions.com/trinity/wheezy/exelinux-wheezy-trinity_0.1.iso |
| rustyshakelford2 | I hope it works |
| Xu_R | oh, that should :D |
| Xu_R | (if it doesn't download updates >_>) |
| rustyshakelford2 | :) |
| rustyshakelford2 | i'll just comment out all the trinity repos |
| Xu_R | for now :P |
| rustyshakelford2 | It will be good enough until january |
| Xu_R | just wait for R14. With all the fixes coming in, we're hoping for another great release :D |
| rustyshakelford2 | Great! I can't wait to get my hands on some kde3 goodness |
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| Vasistha | Is a server down right now? I'm trying to get a package list with apt, and I'm getting an error - could not connect to mirror2.tokra.lv:80 |
| Vasistha | erTsuFal] [ Vandroy ] |
| Vasistha | 15:19 [ Bomfunk] [ hazridi ] [ Mias ] [ raso ] [ Vasistha ] |
| Vasistha | 15:19 -!- Irssi: #trinity-desktop: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] |
| Vasistha | 15:19 -!- Channel #trinity-desktop created Thu Oct 21 10:41:43 2010 |
| Vasistha | err oops, sorry about that |
| Vasistha | didn't realize rightclicking would paste |
| Vasistha | n/m found a page about working around the apttools bug... mirror.its.uidaho.edu |
| Vasistha | Well... it would seem that the mirrors are all down?? Am I doing something wrong? |
| _Pete_ | yes mirros are down |
| _Pete_ | Vasistha: http://trinity-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::16 |
| Vasistha | thanks, _Pete_ |
| Vasistha | wow. I guess that means I am completely up a creek. I'm guessing there isn't any way whatsoever to get squeeze debs until this mirror problem is solved |
| Vasistha | it would be nice to put that note in the /topic :P |
| Vasistha | One actual question (beyond my blathering): how smooth is the upgrade path from kde 3.5.10 to trinity? Will trinity copy my settings from $HOME/.kde ? or is there something I need to do? |
| _Pete_ | my guess is it uses the same settings |
| Vasistha | that is music to my ears... clouded by the lack of certainty |
| _Pete_ | yes it uses |
| _Pete_ | just checked |
| Vasistha | nice. I've spent so many hours customizing my kde 3 environment... I just can't imagine transitioning to the likes of kde4 or xfce etc. |
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| RaiNerTsuFal | maybe its the best to use an own mirror-repo for trinity |
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| MutantTurkey | we should do a trinity google hangout |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: merry christmas eve eve |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: ^_^ |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | still have to go shopping |
| Xu_R | so much to do, so little time >>;; |
| MutantTurkey | basically |
| MutantTurkey | got my grandfather a bottle of booze? |
| MutantTurkey | is that bad? |
| MutantTurkey | :x |
| Xu_R | have no idea XD |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | lolol |
| MutantTurkey | so I looked, we have 4 twin bugs, two are enhancements and one is WORKSFORME. what is martin going on about? |
| schogol | can anybody provide me kdesvn-kio-plugins-trinity_3.5.12-0debian7+r1172729_amd64.deb please! It's not available at the moment because of missing main server. |
| MutantTurkey | schogol: let me see :-) |
| MutantTurkey | schogol: nope sorry :[ |
| schogol | see what |
| MutantTurkey | schogol: hopefully the servers will be up asap :/ |
| MutantTurkey | schogol: I thought I had it |
| MutantTurkey | sorry |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 761 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=761 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kdesu: No visual messages about kdesud status |
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| MutantTurkey | wooop woop |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 762 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=762 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDED: Four daemons have no description in the KControl configuration |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 763 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=763 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KControl: Pressing the Apply button always stops the Media Notifier Daemon |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 764 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=764 trivial, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kate: syntax highlighting out of date |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 764 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 765 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=765 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDevelop: Provide GIT integration |
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| woodefec | hi qt3-friends |
| woodefec | I do not use the trinity desktop, waiting for rpms for opensuse |
| woodefec | I have the KDE 3.5.10 from suse repos installed |
| woodefec | one question: is there a way to get compiz working properly? |
| woodefec | I mean - there are a lot of versions of compiz, emerald, fusion icon out there and I can not find the corresponding ones |
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| * Strangelv : <woodefec> one question: is there a way to get compiz working properly? | |
| gcsimon | woodefect: i one had (a long time ago) with opensuse 11.1 x64 is running properly. but i was never able to reproduce this setup with newer versions of compiz |
| gcsimon | once* |
| gcsimon | btw. is there *any* way ob obtaining TDE currently? |
| gcsimon | i knew the binary-servers are down, but even the source-tarballs are unreachable |
| gcsimon | maybe someone has a local checkout he wishes to share? |
| gcsimon | i did even host it, if we can keep the traffic below 1000GB/month |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 766 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=766 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesu: Functions incorrectly when installed in a non standard path |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 766 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| MutantTurkey | anyone have a nice looking qt3 theme? |
| MutantTurkey | im bugging out |
| MutantTurkey | :[ |
| Xu_R | nope : ( |
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| Piki | hi |
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| lionrafael | are there any mirrors where I can get the source tarballs? The one linked in he website doesn't work. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 767 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=767 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KFilereplace: move to kdeutils or kdebase |
| MutantTurkey | sup Xu_R |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: ping |
| MutantTurkey | pong! |
| l0ner | yo dude! |
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| MutantTurkey | sup my man |
| Iavael_Home | hello |
| l0ner | I got myself a really nice githum home :D |
| l0ner | *ggithub |
| MutantTurkey | hello Iavael_Home |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: github is a great resource |
| l0ner | and I wrote You a email about tde site proposal |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| l0ner | anyway: l0ner.github.com |
| Iavael_Home | what happened with repos of trinity? |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | dead |
| l0ner | server got shut down |
| MutantTurkey | right I saw that |
| l0ner | i think Tim is searching for the replacement atm |
| MutantTurkey | what do you mean |
| MutantTurkey | the mirrors? |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | Iavael_Home: yes the mirrors are down |
| MutantTurkey | he says it shoulld be back up by jan 1syt |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I created myself a nice jekyll based blog too... I need to finish it |
| MutantTurkey | i'd like to see it |
| l0ner | l0ner.github.com/blog.html |
| MutantTurkey | Iavael_Home: yeah, basically one mirror was shut down permenantly ( they took it offline, and used to host a lot of stuff) |
| l0ner | like... everything |
| MutantTurkey | and our other mirror for some time had been unknowingly down because the owner redirected it to the 1st one i mentioned |
| MutantTurkey | so now i think we are looking into alternatives |
| Iavael_Home | oh! |
| l0ner | fcking firefox!!! why it keeps me asking to update... even after I disabled update-check! |
| Iavael_Home | and what about OBS? it is relatevly stable and also a build system :) |
| l0ner | OBS? |
| Iavael_Home | https://build.opensuse.org/ |
| l0ner | ok, i see it now |
| MutantTurkey | I think we are looking into ibiblio for one |
| MutantTurkey | yeah OBS is cool |
| Iavael_Home | it supports all distros you build tde for, except slackware |
| MutantTurkey | robert Xu is working on Open Suse packages |
| l0ner | well... slack don't really uses binary packages... |
| l0ner | as far as I remember it uses something like arch .zx packages... but without dependencies and pkg info... |
| MutantTurkey | .xz packages are binary |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | duh |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | it's just a tar of a file system |
| MutantTurkey | which contains the files |
| l0ner | and instructions for dependencies and so on |
| Iavael_Home | l0ner: slack uses binary packages and they are t(bz2|xz|gz) archives with binaries :) |
| l0ner | well, yes |
| l0ner | i know |
| l0ner | and this is not what i mean |
| l0ner | pretty much as i remembre slack is similiar to arch |
| l0ner | anyway... |
| l0ner | I'd like to know why the goddamned rows of my binary clock have this 2px space between rows on my hompage, and on other pages not. |
| MutantTurkey | I have no idea :x |
| l0ner | and soething like 20 commits ago (i which I didn't change the clock structure) it was working how it should.... |
| MutantTurkey | no idea |
| l0ner | sometimes i hate html... |
| l0ner | halleluyah!! |
| l0ner | resolved |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: have you ever worked woth jekyll? |
| MutantTurkey | nope |
| MutantTurkey | do you have a link? |
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| l0ner | https://github.com/mojombo/jekyll |
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| l0ner | it's used by default for github-based sites |
| l0ner | i thought that we could use it to build tde site |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 768 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=768 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Provide a way to override embedded viewing |
| MutantTurkey | that'd be cool |
| MutantTurkey | is github.com generated that way? or what? |
| MutantTurkey | and do you have an example page? :) |
| l0ner | example page: my whole site |
| l0ner | https://github.com/l0ner/l0ner.github.com look at the source |
| l0ner | and read the jekyll documentation, they provide a lot of examples |
| l0ner | there is even a wiki system that works like jekyll |
| l0ner | it's called gollum |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.lel.ed.ac.uk/~gpullum/loopsnoop.html |
| l0ner | i wrote to you about it in my mail |
| MutantTurkey | okay :) |
| MutantTurkey | very nice |
| l0ner | aaargh!! it's a poem |
| l0ner | i got lost while reading it.. |
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| Xu_R | jekyll! :D |
| * Xu_R uses octopress :3 | |
| l0ner | nice |
| l0ner | I'm begginig to use jekyll |
| l0ner | up until now i used wordpress |
| l0ner | which is mess |
| l0ner | and wordpress.com sucks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 769 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=769 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Ark: consistently crashes |
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| woodefec | hi, what's the equivalent for haldaemon or just it's not needed anymore? |
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| woodefec | hey |
| woodefec | I use KDE 3.5.10 from opensuse with Trinity modifications. |
| woodefec | I have a question: should I use HAL in Trinity or not? |
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| MutantTurkey | do we have knewstuff working? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 770 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=770 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesktop not Xinerama aware |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 771 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=771 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Unable to send e-mails from KMail: Authentication support is not compiled into kio_smtp |
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| mira|AO | where to send patches? |
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| mira|AO | hrm, I tried the mailing list, but my mail doesn’t seem to show up |
| mira|AO | argl. I don't want to subscribe to a mailing list just for one single post |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 772 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=772 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Spell check does not remember previous spell check |
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| cosmic | help me ! |
| cosmic | Why can not I install trinity-desktop |
| cosmic | ??? |
| cosmic | Why can not I install trinity-desktop |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 773 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=773 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, No method for stopping Load-on-Demand Services |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 774 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=774 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror user agent spoofs are woefully out of date |
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| Baho | Hello any one home? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 669 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=669 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, new screen locker with dual-head setup: secondary screen doesn't get hidden! |
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| MobileTurkey | sup |
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| strowi | hi |
| strowi | is there a problem with the trinity ppas? |
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| woodefec | hi |
| woodefec | is there a way in trinity desktop to make media mount correctly, like CDs and pendrives? |
| woodefec | I wanted to use the opensuse's KDE 3.5.10 |
| woodefec | but media mounting was terrible |
| woodefec | and I've read in changelogs that it's got features taken from trinity desktop |
| strowi | Einfach zu gut.. |
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| proscribere | hi |
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| lionrafael | I'm unable to rebuild poppler to include qt3 support. It complains that Qt development libraries couldn't be found. Any work-around? |
| woodefec | hey, how does TDE handle CD-Roms and pendrive mounting? |
| woodefec | in KDE 3.5.10 openSUSE 12.1 it's very troublesome |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 775 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=775 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Tooltips: Refine when tooltips appear |
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| joeytwiddle | same as me! |
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| joeytwiddle | sorry wrong window - using vnc |
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| omid_ | hi |
| omid_ | hello |
| omid_ | how can i install trinty on my opensuse |
| Vasistha | omid_: I am not sure if it is possible right now, because the main mirror is down... I actually just came to the channel to ask if there is a place where we can go to find news on this issue |
| Vasistha | omid_: http://trinity-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::16 |
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| omid_ | Vasistha: sorry i was afk |
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| yetifoot | hi, has the debian repo moved somewhere? i tried to install today, and almost no files are found, not enough to install |
| _Pete_ | yetifoot: http://trinity-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::16 |
| yetifoot | _Pete_, thanks, will read in a sec |
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| yetifoot | looks like i picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue |
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| KingSphinx | I've discovered the joys (and pains) of virtual machines. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 383 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=383 normal, P5, ---, monqpourbsd-linuxfr, RESOLVED FIXED, can't add printer : wrong make_driver_db_cups path |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 758 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=758 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, krandrtray screen switch is too slow |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 353 from CONFIRMED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=353 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, KOffice will not build with GraphicsMagick 1.3.12 or 1.2.10 installed |
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| judgen | are there binary packages for debian ppc? |
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| Z_God | hey |
| Z_God | anyone know if there's a fix when all k-menu categories stay in english after you change the language? |
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| Uranus | hi there |
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| df3 | hi, does anyone know when the natty repo will be fixed? |
| Xu_R | when the mirrors sync :| |
| * Xu_R notes that the primary mirror went down before christmas | |
| Xu_R | the new mirrors are still being set up :c |
| df3 | ok thanks |
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| RingtailedFox | hiya, guys... are there any RPMs for mandriva or mageia available yet? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 244 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=244 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kate: Restore ability to specify the number of files in the Most Recently Used list |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 335 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=335 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror Icon Activation Effect |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 353 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=353 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KOffice will not build with GraphicsMagick 1.3.12 or 1.2.10 installed |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 569 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=569 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, regression: javascript breakage, apparently in regexes |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 581 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=581 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kdelibs 3.5.13 FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 679 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=679 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Koffice FTBFS (python problem) under Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 783 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=783 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Poppler support is always enabled in koffice/chalk build process |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | got a pdk I opened witj KPD, the page format is rather 4:3 than A4 or letter and I'd gain a bit size in printing the page in landscape. however, the portrait/landscape options are greyed out in the print dialog |
| DexterF | why/can I do anything about it? |
| DexterF | gotta run, come back later |
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| woodefec | hi |
| woodefec | what is the best easy big distribution of linux to use with trinity desktop? Ther ain't packs for opensuse 12.1 and I am ready to switch to an alternative |
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| gw280 | has anyone managed to install trinity on 64-bit oneiric? |
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| woodefec | gw280, what is the problem with that? I am about to install oineric 32bit and trinity on it |
| woodefec | will I encounter some problems? |
| gw280 | woodefec: huge number of 404s from apt |
| woodefec | hey people onequestion: do you encounter problems with ejecting CD-ROM? |
| woodefec | gw280, i currently use KDE3 from opensuse 12.1 KDE3 repository which has some trinity features implemnted |
| woodefec | what fails is ejecting CDs and DVDs from drive. After I put it in and than eject, the tray can not be opened again |
| woodefec | no command eject nor on root works and the button on the drive itself aswell |
| woodefec | i want to try trinity desktop from ubuntu as there are no packages for suse |
| gw280 | sorry I was afk |
| gw280 | woodefec: let me know if 32-bit works fine |
| gw280 | I'm about to just bite the bullet and build it from source |
| woodefec | gw280, the KDE3 from suse is almost perfect except for the CD/DVD problems |
| woodefec | And I'd rather not use ubuntu in favour of suse |
| woodefec | but there aint no packages and I am not able to build them myself |
| gw280 | I'm using ubuntu mainly because it's better supported for android devel |
| gw280 | as goog internally uses ubuntu |
| woodefec | I will report on my success or lack of it with 32bit |
| woodefec | I'll message you via memoserv |
| gw280 | k |
| woodefec | I've messaged you already |
| woodefec | just to keep in mind the nick and stuff please reply to it |
| gw280 | k |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 683 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=683 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, FTBFS with libpng15 |
| woodefec | hey |
| woodefec | can you tell me guys, have you CD-ROM ejecting problems with TDE? |
| woodefec | because that is a showstopper here to use KDE 3.5.12 on opensuse |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 696 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=696 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, qt3: Q_EXPORT macro and gcc's -fvisibility |
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| tonighthassucked | anybody alive? |
| tonighthassucked | it seems something is wrong with the repos for trinity. when trying to install after following all instructions on the site.. 404s |
| tonighthassucked | cant install |
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| -kornbluth.freenode.net- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | |
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| Markey | im having trouble installing trinity on oneiric. followed the instructions on http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#ubuntu and get a lot of 404 errors when trying to install |
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| Markisgettingtir | example of one of the lines.. |
| Markisgettingtir | Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils-trinity/kwalletmanager-trinity_3.5.13-0ubuntu9+r1258494+pr5~oneiric_i386.deb 404 Not Found |
| Markisgettingtir | well considering the 404s lack of forum lack of any way to figure this out. I'm guessing trinity is dead. guess I'll continue with gnome |
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| newbie999|3 | Hi, guys. Tell me, please, how much is already done (in %) for porting it to openSUSE ? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 784 filed by charles80_ct@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=784 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, 404 Not found errors when download some deb files from repository |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 353 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=353 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, KOffice will not build with GraphicsMagick 1.3.12 or 1.2.10 installed |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: trinity rocks |
| MutantTurkey | LOL |
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| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: of course it does :P |
| MutantTurkey | dude its so great |
| MutantTurkey | the integration is killer |
| MutantTurkey | I can basically never go to work |
| MutantTurkey | I just VPN in with knetworkmanager, open ssh via konqueror and konsole |
| MutantTurkey | then I am at work |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| Xu_R | ah, lucky XD |
| MutantTurkey | beats taking the train |
| Xu_R | heh. |
| Xu_R | well, i've got finals starting on thursday, and heading throughout the next two weeks |
| MutantTurkey | yuck |
| Xu_R | my teachers... they love to do things last minute ._> |
| Xu_R | I have 4 last minute tests tmrw ._." |
| MutantTurkey | such is life |
| Xu_R | yup, grueling indeed. but as such life goes. ;P |
| MutantTurkey | exactly |
| MutantTurkey | I hope someone contacts me for a recommendation for you |
| Xu_R | oh? :P |
| Xu_R | oh, it's the second week of january - I suppose now that the GIT move is done this is a good time to schedule a meeting... |
| MutantTurkey | fire an email to tim |
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| Xu_R | yea - I just finished writing an email up for trinity-devel and trinity-users |
| Xu_R | i'll probably throw tim a heads up first to make sure he can attend |
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| anditosan | I installed trinity on openSUSE 12.1 and it works great. However, I cant seem to find a network manager application to connect to the internet. |
| anditosan | what is the network manager i need to use under trinity |
| anditosan | ? |
| Xu_R | There is no Trinity for openSUSE o3o |
| Xu_R | I've had to suspend my packaging on it because of real life >>;; |
| anditosan | so what you're trying to say is...? |
| Xu_R | I don't know what you're using o3o Do you mean KDE3 from KDE:KDE3? |
| anditosan | yes |
| Xu_R | The networkmanager you need to use, btw, should be the knetworkmanager package in the repos, assuming you're using KDE:KDE3 |
| Xu_R | ah, ok. That's not Trinity atm :c |
| anditosan | I see |
| anditosan | well, I can |
| anditosan | not find an installation candidate with zypper |
| Xu_R | o_o |
| Xu_R | 12.1, correct? |
| anditosan | yes |
| Xu_R | er, it's named "knetworkmanager-kde3" |
| Xu_R | however, this is a bit of a warning: |
| anditosan | let me check |
| Xu_R | it is not functional if you have "networkmanager" 0.9 or greater installer |
| Xu_R | which is what I think comes with 12.1 :c |
| anditosan | I see, I tried to run networkmanager, but nothing came up |
| Xu_R | Yup, then that's definitely confirmed. I tried to fix the issue earlier, but in the end it looked like knetworkmanager needed some major storage rewrites. |
| anditosan | I see, I will give it a shot at knetworkmanager-kde3 and see what happens |
| MutantTurkey | I suggest sticking with nm-applet |
| MutantTurkey | It works better |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | plus is up to date |
| MutantTurkey | but with OpenSuse i have no idea |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: when are yo getting them packages done... |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: Iwas thinking we should apply for GSOC |
| anditosan | there you go, that's the name I wanted to run heheh, thanks |
| anditosan | couldnt remember it |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: we'd be nice for GSOC if we got accepted. that would be epic. |
| MutantTurkey | seriosuly |
| MutantTurkey | you're to young and so am I |
| MutantTurkey | hafta be 18 |
| Xu_R | I know >>;; |
| MutantTurkey | :[ |
| MutantTurkey | next year! |
| Xu_R | for you lolol. I've still got one more year D: |
| anditosan | are you guys running to get into gsoc? |
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| newbie999|3 | Hi, guys. Tell me, please, how much is already done (in %) for porting it to openSUSE ? |
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| leahcim | Hi, is the mirror.ets.kth.se mirror broken? I'm seeing lots of 404s. |
| MutantTurkey | leahcim: they are going online currently |
| MutantTurkey | a bit of trouble with mirrors over the holidays - the new mirrors are being uploaded |
| MutantTurkey | unfortunately the data rate is slow and the size is HUGE. (LIKE 130 GIGS) |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 346 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=346 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Building amarok refuses to support mp4 tag writing |
| newbie999|3 | Hi, guys. Tell me, please, how much work is already done (in %) for porting it to openSUSE distribution ? |
| leahcim | MutantTurkey: Ta. I guess I shall wait a day or two before I can finish the last 10% of the upgrade then :P |
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| leahcim | Okay, so it seems logging out and back in again after a (partial) 3.5.12->3.5.13 upgrade breaks things even more than staying logged in :P |
| leahcim | Which I guess shouldn't be too surprising when important things like kwin are still the old versions in /opt/kde3 :P |
| leahcim | Is there an alternative to running xfce until the mirrors catch up? :) |
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| newbie999 | Hi, guys. Tell me, please, how much work is already done (in % and, yes, "0%" - is the answer too) for porting it to openSUSE distribution ? |
| Mephisto | which version of SUSE are you using? :) |
| newbie999 | It is - 11.4. |
| Mephisto | it's a good one... |
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| newbie999 | I know. |
| newbie999 | ... |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 591 as a duplicate of bug 554. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=591 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Kicker fails |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 434 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=434 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kscope is missing |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 785 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=785 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdeedu: kalzium makefile patch |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 785 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=672 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kmymoney crashes on startup |
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| newbie999|3 | Hi, guys. Tell me, please, how much work is already done ( [in %] and also, yes, "0%" - is the answer too) for porting it to openSUSE distribution ? |
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| pserru | newbie999|3: Hello... on 05/01/12_13:12:53, "Timothy Pearson" wrote: «Therefore I would *roughly* estimate the first Precise packages would be built for May 2012.». From devel-mailing list... |
| newbie999|3 | pserru: Thx, so we still waiting till summer... |
| pserru | Yep :-/ |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 298 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=298 normal, P2, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Libpng Warning Messages |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 776 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=776 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, drkonqi: support the built-in crashtest |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 508 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=508 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kickoff menu unstable |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 741 as a duplicate of bug 675. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=741 minor, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Locale mixup between TDE and KDE |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=675 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, startkde (starttde) needs updating |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 642 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=642 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Focus prevention option |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 612 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=612 normal, P1, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, KPersonalizer Branding Issue |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 750 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=750 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Akregator default feeds all point to KDE sites |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 785 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=785 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdeedu: kalzium makefile patch |
| pserru | Nice! What a productivity! |
| newbie999|3 | Hmm, how about hal is it still present here now ? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 638 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=638 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Potato Guy game can't find pictures |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 723 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=723 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Error message when clicking on System icon on sidebar in konqueror |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 727 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=727 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine DVB OSD displays incorrect colors |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 624 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=624 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Can't Login with KDM |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 764 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=764 trivial, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kate: syntax highlighting out of date |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=754 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdelibs: Improve informational text in the Report Bugs Help menu option |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=662 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDE Groupware Wizard |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 704 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=704 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, About dialog has incorrect link for bug tracker |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=622 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, K3B Branding Issue |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 656 from PATCHAVAIL to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=656 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, Mimetype detection is incorrect, some files appear as Unknown |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 759 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=759 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KPersonalizer TDE settings contradict the defaults |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 777 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=777 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kexi: various patches found on the web |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 673 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=673 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, qt3: additional man pages are missing |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 281 as a duplicate of bug 508. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=281 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, many irrelevant items under kickoff computer tab |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=508 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kickoff menu unstable |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 616 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=616 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KPatience card set branding issue |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 616 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=620 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdebase: Fix 'KDE Control Module' Branding |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=353 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KOffice will not build with GraphicsMagick 1.3.12 or 1.2.10 installed |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 595 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=595 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Digikam 3.5.13 won't build without patches |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 596 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=596 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Gwenview 3.5.13 will not build without jpeg patches |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 601 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=601 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdesdk 3.5.13 will not build without patch |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 617 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=617 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Trinity KDM default welcome message |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 670 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=670 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, ark_part not available as an embedded File Association |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=663 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KNetwalk: No description in the T-Menu |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 621 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=621 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdelibs: Fix 'KDE Control Module' Branding |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 752 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=752 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdepim: Fix inadvertent 'tqt' changes |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 751 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=751 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdegraphics: Inadvertent changes to tqt syntax |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 700 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=700 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdenetwork: ftbfs with -DBUILD_KOPETE_PROTOCOL_JABBER=ON |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=619 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Update networkconf backend support for Slackware |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 619 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 602 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=602 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kipi-plugins 3.5.13 will not build without jpeg patches |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 603 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=603 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, koffice 3.5.13 will not build without patch |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 672 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=672 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmymoney crashes on startup |
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| Vasistha | ctrl-alt-del menu ... stopped working :-( here I was gonna ask something about it, but now it won't come up at all |
| Vasistha | seems like something is off, maybe I need to log out/in |
| Vasistha | no... I can reproduce it. If I press ctrl-alt-del, get that dialog, press escape ... if I do that twice, then ctrl-alt-del won't bring it up again |
| pserru | Bye... |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 666 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=666 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, website: Help is a bad link in bugs.trinitydesktop.org |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 786 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=786 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdeedu: kbruch/Makefile.am:5: `:='-style assignments are not portable |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 786 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 787 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=787 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesdk: kapptemplate/Makefile.am:3: `:='-style assignments are not portable |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 787 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| Raevyn | Hello all! Is Trinity not fully uploaded for installation yet? |
| Raevyn | I tried installing it via apt-get for Lucid (Kubuntu 10.04) and I am receiving many messages of packages not being found.. |
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| bblum | hey folks, trying to install trinity on oneiric; getting a bunch of 404s when fetching packages |
| bblum | i ran exactly the intructions on the installation page; looking at the mirror by hand it looks like it genuinely does not have the files |
| bblum | is there something i should be doing? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 455 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=455 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [patch] Storage media applet buttons are too large |
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| * OmegaPhil looks forward to installing trinity on Debian when he gets control back of the machine | |
| OmegaPhil | Was planning to migrate to KDE4, then I read Linus didnt recommend it anymore. Various reading later and I learn about Trinity :) |
| newbie999 | OmegaPhil: Just try it. |
| OmegaPhil | Will do |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 788 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=788 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kdemultimedia: Kaudiocreator won't build unless configure finds the cdda headers |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 755 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=755 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdebase: Can't build package without dbus header patch |
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| delight | I finally got amarok from trinity installed on my lucid box (mirror sync problems :-/ ) ... but its not accepting mp3 files ... libxine1-ffmpeg is installed |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 789 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=789 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kaffiene: does not detect header files in subdirectories |
| delight | sorry forget about it ... its playing them |
| delight | then I'm wondering thou why its not building up the collection :-( |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 790 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=790 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdemultimedia: audiofile.h configure errors |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 637 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=637 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Patches required to build qt3 on Slackware |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 637 from RESOLVED FIXED to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=712 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, qt3: FTBFS: NIS support cannot be enabled (DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH not defined) |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=713 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, qt3: libqt3-mt-ibase can be built on debian (and on Ubuntu!) |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 637 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=637 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Patches required to build qt3 on Slackware |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=755 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdebase: Can't build package without dbus header patch |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=747 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, arts: jack support isn't enabled by cmake |
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| Gnumatic | I'm trying to install trinity for squeeze and I'm encountering missing packages. Should I try --fix-missing? squeeze/main libtqtinterface amd64 4:3.5.13-0debian9+r1258011+pr2~squeeze |
| Gnumatic | 404 Not Found |
| Gnumatic | Other missing packages: libtqtinterface_3.5.13-0debian9+r1258011+pr2~squeeze_amd64.deb , kde-core-trinity_54_all.deb, kde-trinity_54_all.deb |
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| MutantTurkey | woop woop |
| MutantTurkey | whats up yall |
| MutantTurkey | i'm sick of my kpackage interface sucking up all memory |
| filmore | hi, thought I'd give Trinity a try, and I'm getting 404 errors |
| filmore | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ natty/main libqt3-mt amd64 3:3.3.8-d-0ubuntu0+sr73+pr181~natty |
| filmore | 404 Not Found |
| filmore | Could I be missing a repository or something? |
| MutantTurkey | filmore: hey |
| MutantTurkey | filmore: I feel like i'm a broken record because everyone is asking this. |
| filmore | oh |
| MutantTurkey | basically, the mirrors unexpectedly and forever went down over the holidays |
| MutantTurkey | so Tim has been working to get us new mirrors |
| MutantTurkey | the new mirrors have been aquired but it has taken longer than expected to sync |
| MutantTurkey | the problem is that the mirror contents is ~130gb's |
| MutantTurkey | and tim has an extremely limited connection - one that is good for a website, but not for a mirror |
| MutantTurkey | so only time will tell :-) |
| MutantTurkey | filmore: let me try and find the announcement... |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully they'll be online before febuary |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::16 |
| MutantTurkey | this is a bit old but that's that. |
| MutantTurkey | filmore: comprendo? :) |
| filmore | yep, thanks for the info |
| filmore | that's kind of a bummer, but I'll stay tuned and see what shakes out |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=582 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Can't build 3.5.13 tarballs with autotool with QT4 installed |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 637 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=637 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Patches required to build qt3 on Slackware |
| MobileTurkey | wow |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 317 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=317 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdeartwork build warnings |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 791 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=791 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Akode: add the akode arts plugin to the Trinity repository |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 290 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=290 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Libcarddav: Cannot build in Slackware 12.2 |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 314 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=314 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdemultimedia build warnings |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=659 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Update the "About Trinity" description in all Help menus |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 792 filed by sh4dou@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=792 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt3 FTBFS on odbc module |
| tbottu | 10sh4dou@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 792 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| bblum | hey guys, is it just me, or does the mirror given on the instructions page fail to actually have any of the files? I keep getting 404 errors trying to install, and manually plugging in the URLs verifies that the files don't seem to be there. |
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| cpatrick08 | i am trying to install tde on kubuntu oneiric and i added the ppas and the key and update but when i run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| cpatrick08 | i get 404 errors |
| cpatrick08 | i am trying to install tde on kubuntu oneiric and i added the ppas and the key and update but when i run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity i get 404 errors |
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| bblum | cpatrick008: I have the same problem |
| cpatrick008 | ok glad to know it is not just me |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 782 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=782 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, koffice: fix inadvertent TQ replacements |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 676 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=676 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Make the default window placement Center rather than Smart |
| bblum | cpatrick008: you would think people would pay attention to that sort of thing |
| bblum | but i haven't heard a single thing |
| cpatrick008 | bblum: yea you would think that |
| cpatrick008 | bblum: according to this bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=757 under comment one it lists links to the reasons we cannot install tde |
| tbottu | 04Bug 757: blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, not able to install trinity |
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| cpatrick008 | gotta go now ttyl |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 793 filed by basia@jastra.netprojekt.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=793 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, /etc/apt/sources.list does not connect to archive |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 752 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=752 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdepim: Fix inadvertent 'tqt' changes |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 752 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=752 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdepim: Fix inadvertent 'tqt' changes |
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| trinitytest | hi to everyone! |
| trinitytest | anyone knows when redhat repositorie goes up again ? |
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| Xu_R | w00t |
| Xu_R | repos are back up! :D |
| bblum | still giving 404 errors, though. |
| Xu_R | shouldn't be anymore |
| Xu_R | they're all connecting to the main sync mirror (so it'll be slow) |
| Xu_R | you should be connecting to ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity |
| trinitytest | Xu_R, thanks.. are working! |
| trinitytest | i found a mangafrance repositorie is that one safe ? |
| * bblum hmm | |
| newbie999 | I want to test Trinity too, but... there is no rpms for OpenSUSE yet :-( |
| trinitytest | newbie999, u can install on virtual box a iso with trinity and fedora |
| trinitytest | http://trinity.mangafrance.com/f16/trinity-3.5.13/ISO/TDELive-3.5.13-FC16-v2.i386.iso |
| trinitytest | i intalled on virtual box only because i dont know if that is safe |
| trinitytest | trinity repositorie so slow... |
| trinitytest | 7.5 kb/s |
| newbie999 | Sooooooooooo slow O_o |
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| cpatrick08 | please see http://pastebin.com/zUMwexMz for my problem |
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| cpatrick008 | i figured out my problem |
| cpatrick008 | changed permissions of file and get following error meaasge >>> /etc/sudoers.d/trinity: syntax error near line 0 <<< sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers.d/trinity near line 0 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting |
| cpatrick008 | contents of /etc/sudoers.d/trinity file secure_path=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/trinity/sbin:/usr/sbin:/opt/trinity/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin |
| cpatrick008 | this link for tde lucid http://kde3.tokra.lv/kubuntu-10.04-trinity-desktop-amd64.iso is unavailable |
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| Xu_R | cpatrick008: well, that mirror closed... you should always be using ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net... o3o |
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| cpatrick008 | yes but the onluy cd image on ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net is maverick i was hoping to download the lucid image but it is only on the closed mirror |
| KingSphinx | I wasn't aware there was even an image for later builds of Ubuntu. I know there's a Trinity image built on Fedora, but I can't find the link at the moment. |
| cpatrick008 | KingSphinx: just maverick at the moment |
| cpatrick008 | KingSphinx: where is the link to the fedora image |
| cpatrick008 | oh ok |
| KingSphinx | http://trinity.mangafrance.com/f16/trinity-3.5.13/ISO/ |
| cpatrick008 | thanks |
| cpatrick008 | i was hoping it was 64 bit but you take what you get i suppose |
| cpatrick008 | gotta go ttyl |
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| trinitytest | anyone know what is happening to the server, its so slow.. 2kb/s |
| bblum | i was having that problem too |
| Xu_R | that's because it's limited bandwidth. |
| Xu_R | that was made clear on the mailing lists :| |
| trinitytest | ahh, i didnt knew.. im trying install for the first time |
| trinitytest | i found a manga france mirror but dont know if that is safe |
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| trinitytest | http://trinity.mangafrance.com/ |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 672 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=672 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kmymoney crashes on startup |
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| OmegaPhil | I have 1.1MB/Sec u/l (VDSL2 connection in the UK) if that can temporarily help things at all. Please highlight me |
| * OmegaPhil will be looking into Trinity at some point soon but knows nothing as of yet | |
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| ZinovaS | ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net repository is very slow.. installer shows 2 days remaining for download.. is there any faster repository to install from? |
| ZinovaS | (im in lithuania (europe)) |
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| trinitytest | good morning!! |
| trinitytest | anyone knows when trinity repository becomes to a normal velocity ? since yesterday im trying to install trinity withou success because the server is too slow. |
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| ZinovaS | so there was better speed before? Im instaling trinity for the first time.. ;) |
| ZinovaS | 5hours and Im at 14% |
| ZinovaS | :D |
| ZinovaS | I could host a mirror in my free server for a while if that is acceptible... |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 794 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=794 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Select location bar shortcut in konqueror/file dialogs |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 707 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=707 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, kdesktop_lock password entry does not function normally |
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| Xu_R | ZinovaS: there was, when our primary mirror was still functional |
| Xu_R | :c |
| ZinovaS | so maybe you need backup mirrors, like I sugest ? |
| Xu_R | ZinovaS: we did have backup mirrors! then they died too :'( |
| ZinovaS | what was the problem? |
| Xu_R | uidaho cut their mirror service and our backup mirrors got taken down because the maintainer couldn't handle the bandwidth... |
| Xu_R | I think we have 4 mirrors now starting to sync... but the bandwidth is a bit slow... |
| ZinovaS | what is size of the mirror? |
| Xu_R | I'm not too sure on specifics, but if I had to guess, at least 50 GB. or more. |
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| cpatrick008 | I was wondering if TDE Ubuntu Lucid would be upgradeable to TDE Ubuntu Precise when Precise is released in April? |
| cpatrick008 | gotta go ttyl |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 725 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=725 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, sudo-trinity conflicts with sudo |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 793 as a duplicate of bug 784. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=793 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, /etc/apt/sources.list does not connect to archive |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=784 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, 404 Not found errors when downloading some deb files from repository |
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| Tysesika | Has anyone got trinity working on gentoo? |
| bblum | Tysesika, my primary laptop runs gentoo and I use the "kde-sunset" overlay |
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| Tysesika | bblum how actively is it updated, I assume security is the highest priority... I'm just wondering how that compares to trinity as i understand it that is just vanilla kde 3.5.x |
| bblum | i'm not sure, honestly |
| bblum | i haven't actively tried to sync the repository |
| bblum | but i haven't had it break or anything |
| bblum | and i didn't know that trinity existed until just recnetly :P |
| Tysesika | ah, well my primary machine doesn't actually run gentoo currently, it runs windows, i need it for some university software but i feel im going insane on this OS so I'm swtiching back tomorrow :P |
| Tysesika | my plan is to use trinity |
| bblum | cool good luck :P |
| bblum | i can vouch that kde-sunset (probably) works |
| bblum | in case trinity doesn't |
| K`zan | Does anyone know if this is available in 64 bit? Or does it matter? Upping RAM probably means I'm going to be going with 64 bit something :), probably ubuntu. |
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| ZinovaS | any info when repository will be availible? |
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| ZinovaS | yey, reppor working in amazing 10KB/s speed, apt will download last 42mb in hour! :D |
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| tbottu | 10linux@rainbow-software.org changed the Status on bug 771 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=771 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Unable to send e-mails from KMail: Authentication support is not compiled into kio_smtp |
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| Moebius29 | ok.. here's the thing... everything that is run from file manager appears in the upper left corner. |
| Moebius29 | if it's on desktop then no prob. |
| Moebius29 | can anyone explain that? |
| Moebius29 | sorry. wrong chan.. |
| Moebius29 | has nothing to do with Trinity. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 695 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=695 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdenetwork 3.5.13, several FTBFS in kopete (rhel/fedora) |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 599 as a duplicate of bug 600. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=599 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, kdepim 3.5.13 cmake files incorrectly install header files into the incorrect location |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=600 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdegraphics 3.5.13 cmake files incorrectly install header files into the incorrect location |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 600 from PATCHAVAIL to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 600 from CONFIRMED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=600 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, tde incorrectly installs header files into ${include}/kde |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 795 filed by office@klepp.biz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=795 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, "kghostview-trinity" depends on "gs" |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 600 from PATCHAVAIL to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=600 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, tde incorrectly installs header files into ${include}/kde |
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| MutantTurkey | with kb9vqf was around these days |
| MutantTurkey | kinda miss him |
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| woodsman | woodsman, aka darrell is here. |
| woodsman | was mutant turkey looking for me? |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | thats me |
| MutantTurkey | sorry i didnt see your message, regularly it'll popup if my name is mentioned, but you spaced it |
| MutantTurkey | woodsman: I was thinking about suggesting the removal of certain buttons |
| MutantTurkey | (optionally, but by default) |
| MutantTurkey | woodsman: so a lot of trinity apps. Konqueror and KControl off the top of my head have these "clear search field icons" |
| MutantTurkey | woodsman: http://imagebin.org/193869 |
| MutantTurkey | It's visually unattractive, isn't specifically clear, and isn't uniform |
| MutantTurkey | I suggest that a custom widget (one that would automagically include the "clear widget" button) and would be globally configurable so that users could turn them all of if desired. |
| MutantTurkey | woodsman: any thoughts? |
| woodsman | um, i'm lost. which icons? |
| MutantTurkey | see the link: http://imagebin.org/193869 |
| MutantTurkey | http://imagebin.org/193870 |
| MutantTurkey | circled it |
| MutantTurkey | it seems the icon is sort of useless, any user can simply delete the text another way |
| woodsman | yeah, i'm a little slow right now :). trying to build packages from git and testing my build scripts... |
| woodsman | okay, |
| MutantTurkey | seems rather archic and not streemlined |
| MutantTurkey | woodsman: pfft I am avoiding git still |
| MutantTurkey | I cant get it to update to the head. |
| woodsman | are you talking about the black X widget? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| woodsman | what don't you like? |
| MutantTurkey | it's existance |
| woodsman | don't use the widget? I do. |
| MutantTurkey | right, so I think it should be globally configurabale |
| MutantTurkey | does that make sense? |
| woodsman | not yet |
| woodsman | configurable how? |
| MutantTurkey | through kcontrol as part of a kcm module |
| MutantTurkey | a little checkbox saying "Show Clear Field button" |
| woodsman | ok |
| woodsman | well, i use a very similar extension in Firefox |
| MutantTurkey | which is? |
| woodsman | the FF extension is much better |
| woodsman | i'm looking... |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| woodsman | neo diggler 1.0.6 |
| woodsman | supposed to be obsolete but i edit the rdf file all the time and the extension still works with 3.6.24 |
| woodsman | that extension clears the field, like konq, but also has a drop-down menu to move up/down url levels. |
| MutantTurkey | 3.6 firefox? |
| woodsman | that type of revision would be nice |
| woodsman | yeah, i still use 3.6 |
| MutantTurkey | I think firefox 9 is now out... |
| woodsman | yeah, but i have so much else on my plate right now |
| MutantTurkey | Understandable |
| woodsman | i started playing with newer versions to get the same look and feel |
| woodsman | got darned close to the same 3.6 look |
| MutantTurkey | :-P I am not to big on looks. I like functionality |
| woodsman | so my next step, when i get time, is to actually use the newer version in a VM |
| MutantTurkey | okay next, Ktorrent |
| MutantTurkey | the most recent version is 2.2.8 |
| woodsman | well, i don't like some of the changes |
| MutantTurkey | that includes backports from the KDE4.0 branch that was started |
| MutantTurkey | security fixs |
| woodsman | tim was aksing for the 2.2.8 sources, i gave him a link |
| MutantTurkey | I got it |
| MutantTurkey | I was going to find the different files and patch them, but if tim wanted to do it |
| woodsman | i have 2.2.8 here on my 3.5.10 install |
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| MutantTurkey | wow first time konversation ever crashed. |
| woodsman | cosmic rays... |
| MutantTurkey | do you think I should create a patch with the changes from 2.2.8? oir let tim do it |
| woodsman | just do it --- and post to the bug report |
| MutantTurkey | creating a patch was rather difficult. mostly because the changes kept turning up all Makefile changes, not source code |
| MutantTurkey | so I finally found a good program (kdiff3) to work with it |
| MutantTurkey | I think only a few files are affected |
| MutantTurkey | and KDE2, do you want any improvements to it? I am thinking about hacking it up a bit and getting some more otpions |
| woodsman | maybe then first focus on the tqt conversion... |
| MutantTurkey | woodsman: well its mostly backend changes, minimal work with TQt |
| woodsman | as far as look and feel, no |
| woodsman | what kind of options? |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | well let me ask you, what do you think of the minimize, exit and maximize buttons? |
| woodsman | i like the 1990s button look :) |
| MutantTurkey | to me they seem really whacky |
| MutantTurkey | :-) maybe I am asking the wrong guy |
| MutantTurkey | I acutally like it, but I find it to bold |
| woodsman | probably :) |
| MutantTurkey | mostly I wanted to ask about creating a centered title |
| MutantTurkey | would you use that? |
| MutantTurkey | I like my titles centered, Ifind it easier to read |
| woodsman | centered titles: can't we do that now? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't think so, unless I'm crazy. |
| woodsman | i use left justified but i'msure centered is supported |
| woodsman | let's look... |
| MutantTurkey | I don't see it |
| woodsman | huh, me neither |
| woodsman | do the other styles have that option? |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | but thats definitely hard coded |
| woodsman | example? |
| MutantTurkey | laptop does it |
| MutantTurkey | but no option |
| woodsman | been soooooo long since I changed those kinds of things i don't know where to look! |
| MutantTurkey | Settings -> Appearance and Themes -> window decorations |
| MutantTurkey | from kicker |
| woodsman | are we talking about the same thing? |
| MutantTurkey | not sure. what are we talking about? |
| woodsman | I thought you were talking about the title bar in each window |
| MutantTurkey | I am talking about window decorations |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | right? |
| MutantTurkey | :x |
| woodsman | ok the buttons at the far right of the title bar? |
| MutantTurkey | I am talking about the titles on the titlebar |
| MutantTurkey | having it centered |
| MutantTurkey | the text, not the buttons |
| MutantTurkey | sorry I'm rather loose with my semantics |
| MutantTurkey | i'll try and be more specific |
| woodsman | ok, that's what i thought we were discussing |
| woodsman | yeah, i don't see an option to move the text |
| MutantTurkey | I think i'm going to work on that sometime |
| MutantTurkey | I always get these Ideas and then I get half way and qutie :-P |
| MutantTurkey | quit' |
| woodsman | wait until you get older... |
| MutantTurkey | Another cosmetic issue: Konqueror shows the tab bar below the action bar |
| woodsman | but when you get older you get smarter and simply don't start half the things you think about! |
| woodsman | yeah, so? after all these years if anybody changed that a lot of people would go ballistic |
| MutantTurkey | I suppose |
| MutantTurkey | thats the problem with trinity >_> innovation is stifled |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| woodsman | not stifled --- traditionalist |
| MutantTurkey | everything I want to introduce is strictly optional |
| woodsman | you could add an option to move things but the default location probably should stay |
| woodsman | sounds like the recent discussion about Smart placement :) |
| MutantTurkey | Don't get me started. |
| MutantTurkey | Martin is a hot head |
| woodsman | something I have noticed after years of working with non computer people --- don't ever change their settings or locations of things |
| MutantTurkey | well we are going to do that |
| woodsman | they are not geeks and when things change they get upset because they can't find anything |
| MutantTurkey | the location of certain settings NEED to be changed |
| MutantTurkey | it's impossibl to find anything with the current kcontrol |
| MutantTurkey | It's not intuitive, and new options get randomly stuck in wherever they fit |
| woodsman | but the option to keep things the same should remain as much as possible |
| woodsman | I agree. I added a patch to move the window focus options to the, um. focus tab :) |
| MutantTurkey | exactly :-P |
| MutantTurkey | we need someone to externally review trinity |
| MutantTurkey | it's all staring us in the face. |
| woodsman | anybody who is not part of the gnome of kde4 project... |
| MutantTurkey | I mean a user. |
| woodsman | or ubuntu unity... |
| MutantTurkey | LOL |
| MutantTurkey | I don't think Keyboard Options shouldbe under Regional and Accessability |
| woodsman | best option is to find a college friend or two and ask them to use Trinity |
| MutantTurkey | it should be grouped with Mice as peripherals |
| MutantTurkey | woodsman: that is a good idea. |
| MutantTurkey | most of them are unity fools or windows drones |
| woodsman | yeah, that keyboard location threw for a long time... mice is good location |
| MutantTurkey | KDM Themes should be under appearance I think |
| MutantTurkey | Also, is there a way to get KDM to act like a normal non themed window? |
| woodsman | kdm non themed? yes, that is how i set up mine |
| MutantTurkey | how did you do that? |
| MutantTurkey | mine won't untheme! |
| woodsman | i'm using 3.5.10 right now --- give me a couple to fire up my 3.5.13 vm... |
| MutantTurkey | also I am trying to kill arts asap |
| woodsman | kcontrol / system administration / login manager / but.... |
| woodsman | I think theming has to be enabled fromthe parent distro |
| woodsman | there is no theming option in my kdm |
| woodsman | i think I edited my kdmrc to stop themeing |
| MutantTurkey | I'll try that |
| woodsman | kill arts how? |
| MutantTurkey | remove the need for it. |
| woodsman | and replace with what? |
| MutantTurkey | A backend independent option |
| MutantTurkey | which would allow us to write out to ALSA, Pulse, Jack, whatever. |
| woodsman | hmm. be careful with that. not all distros work that way |
| MutantTurkey | yeah it's still brewing in my brain |
| woodsman | slackware uses alsa |
| woodsman | there are third party packages for pulse and jack but not part of the stock distro |
| MutantTurkey | right, but it should be able to use ALSA, pulse whatever. |
| MutantTurkey | obviously the first thing to write is alsa, and used by default |
| woodsman | makes sense to me but why was arts created in the first place? bvack in the day probably because alsa did not exist or was crappy? |
| MutantTurkey | alsa did exist |
| MutantTurkey | same reason that pulse exists |
| woodsman | so why was arts created? NIH? (not invented here)? |
| MutantTurkey | it basically provides mixdown functions as I can see |
| MutantTurkey | it was brought into KDE2 to be used |
| MutantTurkey | then it sort of grew as a kde projec |
| MutantTurkey | A key component of aRts is the sound server which mixes several sound streams in realtime |
| woodsman | well, that was one ting the kde4 folks did change. now the sound uses whatever backend the user wants. |
| MutantTurkey | it uses phonon anyway |
| MutantTurkey | it uses whatever they want |
| woodsman | what is your beef with arts? maybe in'm one of the few who never had a problem. always stable for me. |
| MutantTurkey | with phonon on top |
| MutantTurkey | when the author of a project announces hes leaving because of deep ingrained unsolvable issues |
| woodsman | who? |
| MutantTurkey | this is his manifesto bbasically |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.arts-project.org/doc/arts-maintenance.html |
| MutantTurkey | that was 2004 |
| woodsman | I'll have to read later so I can think about what he says... |
| MutantTurkey | in a sentance, he outlines things that he did wrong with the project that are deeply ingrainded |
| MutantTurkey | ingrained |
| woodsman | oh, foundational presumptions... |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| woodsman | nature break... |
| MutantTurkey | woodsman: do you know of Konstruct? |
| woodsman | i'm back --- whew! |
| woodsman | i know about but have no idea how to use |
| woodsman | konstruct, that is |
| MutantTurkey | yeah me neither |
| MutantTurkey | back to arts, I am digging around... |
| MutantTurkey | libartskde is a simple KDE->aRts wrapper that allows the developer to use KDE technology to access aRts. |
| MutantTurkey | direct quote |
| MutantTurkey | I say replace libartskde with libsoundtde |
| woodsman | you'll have to do some initial testing. then approach tim |
| woodsman | i don't think he is going to merge that kind of thing without a lot of testing |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | I've mentioned it before I think |
| MutantTurkey | I wish he was around on the IRC these days as well. he seems really busy so I have nothing to complain about |
| MutantTurkey | Trinity is a full time child |
| MutantTurkey | but with all these bug fixes, honestly I think R14 will be a success |
| woodsman | yes, i'm amazed at his skills that he can do so much with so little time |
| MutantTurkey | I think he puts in more time that we know :-) |
| MutantTurkey | the sheer amount maintainence is the problem |
| MutantTurkey | servers, distros, packages. |
| woodsman | yup |
| MutantTurkey | imagine if he was only a developer |
| woodsman | yup |
| woodsman | speaking of bugs, there are a few bug reports against the lack of proper device icon behavior |
| woodsman | do you feel challenged? |
| woodsman | i will help troubleshoot and test if you do |
| MutantTurkey | proper device icon behavior? |
| MutantTurkey | also, can I highly recommend Deskzilla? |
| MutantTurkey | it's bugzilla but on my desktop |
| MutantTurkey | I love it |
| woodsman | deskzilla? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | it's a desktop application for Bugzilla |
| woodsman | got the page up now---looking--- |
| MutantTurkey | here is a shot for my mdesktop |
| MutantTurkey | http://imagebin.org/193874 |
| MutantTurkey | it doesn't integrate well with trinity, but it's a total time saver |
| woodsman | is that qt3? |
| MutantTurkey | it's a java applet |
| MutantTurkey | so it's with the java widgets |
| MutantTurkey | woodsman: which is hands down the worst thing about the application |
| woodsman | java -- ugh |
| woodsman | slow? |
| MutantTurkey | not really |
| MutantTurkey | on my intel atom its fine and my i5 its smooth |
| woodsman | i might try |
| MutantTurkey | at least look into it |
| MutantTurkey | it just saves me time when doing complex seaches |
| woodsman | interface looks more organized than the regular bugzilla |
| MutantTurkey | plus I can save them. |
| MutantTurkey | very well organized |
| woodsman | iwas just going to ask about searches |
| MutantTurkey | I have one search "patch avail" then on that only returns bugs this week |
| woodsman | can you create several custom list views? |
| MutantTurkey | the interface is tabbed |
| MutantTurkey | so you cna have multiple search and pages |
| MutantTurkey | 97 bugs updated htis week :-) |
| MutantTurkey | Also you can look over ones you reported or assigned, |
| MutantTurkey | I am sitll just a basic user, but it's great |
| woodsman | yeah, tim wacked a lot of them, many of them build related, which is why I now am getting things done from git |
| MutantTurkey | also it's nice to have the ability to save a draft |
| MutantTurkey | often I have to write up a long report and don't have time |
| woodsman | the bugzilla server is not the fastest with respect to searches |
| MutantTurkey | nope, this is probably faster though |
| woodsman | if the local deskzilla needs to only fetch new data then that would make local usage much faster |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | it saves it to disk |
| MutantTurkey | so it dosnt query the server every time |
| woodsman | ok, i'm almost sold :) |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | I am quite the salesman haha |
| MutantTurkey | I wish it wasn't java, but beggers cant be choosers and kbugbuster sucks |
| MutantTurkey | anyway I am going to bed. Thanks for joining me and helping me think though some thoughts |
| woodsman | smile at the pretty college girls for me. :) |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=796 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt3/tqt3: pkgconfig file is stored in an unsual place |
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| tidux | hi, I'm having a problem installing Trinity on Debian Squeeze armel |
| tidux | the repos updated properly with an "aptitude update" |
| tidux | but the packages are missing |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 797 filed by basia@jastra.netprojekt.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=797 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13 needs ksmserver-trinity >= 4:3.5.13 |
| bblum | tidux: i was having that problem earlier |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=798 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Keyboard switch kkbswitch crashes after loging in (signal 11 SIGSEGV) |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=690 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdm_greet uses too much CPU |
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| MutantTurkey | @tbottu |
| MutantTurkey | !tbottu seen kb9vqf |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=795 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, wheezy: "kghostview-trinity" depends on "gs" |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 795 as a duplicate of bug 745. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=795 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, wheezy: "kghostview-trinity" depends on "gs" |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=745 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kghostview-trinity - bad gs dependency - should be ghostscript |
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| K`zan | You guys must be doing something right :-): |
| K`zan | HTTP/1.1 509 Maximum Instantaneous Bandwidth Exceeded |
| K`zan | There are too many users accessing this server to be able to service your request |
| K`zan | Please try again later |
| K`zan | attempted to access cdimages/kubuntu/maverick/kubuntu-10.10-trinity-desktop-amd64.iso |
| K`zan | at 2012-01-17 23:00:42 |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | K`zan: whut thats crazy |
| K`zan | Tried it several times, FWIW. Getting ready to pull the drive tomorrow and slide new hardware under it, hopfully before this dies. |
| K`zan | Still. will try later |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 799 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=799 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdegraphics: CMakeLists.txt used incorrect -DWITH_LIBPAPER option |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 799 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 800 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| feindbild | hi ^^ |
| feindbild | any idea how to get chromium to open filepicker dialogs under trinity? ^^ |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 801 filed by bda@aime-toulouse.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=801 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Icons in kate toolbar are not ordered |
| gw280 | so I get this every time I open the settings menu on my machine: |
| gw280 | kicker: art_render_gradient.c:337: art_render_gradient_linear_render_8: Assertion `(stops[ix-1].offset <= offset_fraction + 1e-6) || ((stops[ix].offset > (1.0 - 1e-6)) && (offset_fraction < 1e-6 ))' failed. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=380 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE 3.5.12 likes to remove gnome |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: sup dude |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 794 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=794 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Select location bar shortcut in konqueror/file dialogs |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=581 blocker, P1, ---, humanreadable, NEEDINFO, kdelibs 3.5.13 FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 444 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=444 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, fusion-icon-trinity missing dependent packages |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 604 as a duplicate of bug 581. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=604 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, kdevelop 3.5.13 will not build without patches |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=581 blocker, P1, ---, humanreadable, NEEDINFO, kdelibs 3.5.13 FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 604 from RESOLVED DUPLICATE to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=604 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, kdevelop 3.5.13 will not build without patches |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=604 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdevelop 3.5.13 will not build without patches |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 604 as a duplicate of bug 581. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=604 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, kdevelop 3.5.13 will not build without patches |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=581 blocker, P1, ---, humanreadable, NEEDINFO, kdelibs 3.5.13 FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 802 filed by Murphy.Gebert@gmx.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=802 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Unknown MI command when opening structs in KDevelop variable viewer |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 802 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=802 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Unknown MI command when opening structs in KDevelop variable viewer |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 581 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=581 blocker, P1, ---, humanreadable, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, kdelibs 3.5.13 FTBFS |
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| tidux | have the Debian Squeeze armel packages been rebuilt yet? |
| tidux | or should I just compile from source at this point? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 587 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=587 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tsak daemon fails on keyboard unplug |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Resolution on bug 581 from NOTOURPROBLEM to INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=581 blocker, P1, ---, humanreadable, RESOLVED INVALID, kdelibs 3.5.13 FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Resolution on bug 581 from INVALID to NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=581 blocker, P1, ---, humanreadable, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, kdelibs 3.5.13 FTBFS |
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| MutantTurkey | anyone around |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| KingSphinx | I wonder what it says about me that, after just a couple of years using Linux, I feel more at home with it than I do Windows. |
| MutantTurkey | what is wrong with that? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't even have a backup of windows lying around |
| MutantTurkey | you just adjust like anyone else |
| KingSphinx | Not saying anything's wrong, I'm just saying it because, well... to be honest, I kinda miss Linux. Windows can play all my games, yes, but it's one heck of a resource hog. |
| MutantTurkey | wait I am confuseed |
| MutantTurkey | you feel more home with Windows than Linux? |
| KingSphinx | No, I'm more at home in Linux than Windows. |
| MutantTurkey | good :) |
| KingSphinx | For instance, I'm still used to being able to copy/paste text using just the middle button on my mouse. |
| KingSphinx | Can't do that in Windows AFAIK |
| MutantTurkey | the simple tihngs |
| MutantTurkey | like being able to "keep window on top" I take for granted |
| KingSphinx | It's those "little things" that made me love Ubuntu (and Linux in general), because once you get used to the way it does things, it's hard to go back to the "normal" Windows way. |
| MutantTurkey | exactly |
| KingSphinx | Heck, I'd probably have had an easier time, say, migrating to OS X since Darwin and Linux are both related, if only loosely (no shared code or anything like that) |
| KingSphinx | By the way, any idea if "middle-click-to-paste" works on OS X? That question's been bugging me since last night. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 779 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=779 wishlist, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, QCAD: Add the community edition to the Trinity repository |
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| MutantTurkey | Cab Calloway fo days |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 803 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=803 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdesdk: update kbugbuster to function with bugzilla |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 561 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=561 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Keyboard numlock light no longer works |
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| vpages | Hi, |
| vpages | For one of our customers who need real fast access to TDE, we have set |
| vpages | up on our NAS a public access to TDE mirror: |
| vpages | http://ftp.rezopole.net/tde/ |
| vpages | This is hosted by Rezopole/Lyonix (Lyon - France Internet Exchange |
| vpages | Point) available in ipv4 and ipv6. |
| vpages | Available bandwidth is 100Mbit/s. |
| vpages | If you'd like to communicate on this, just tell us how often we need to |
| vpages | synchronize with your primary mirror. |
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| RingtailedFox | is it possible to have both trinity and KDE4 installed without conflicts? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 804 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=804 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gwenview: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 805 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=805 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdeutils: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 806 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=806 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kipi-plugins: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 807 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=807 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdeaddons: unknown icon type |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 800 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=800 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdemultimedia: patch to correctly detect MMX |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 757 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=757 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, not able to install trinity |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 559 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=559 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kaffeine crashes while access to xine after startup |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 635 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=635 major, P4, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Incorrect conversion of encodings in kmail-imap (or something) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 511 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=511 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kaffeine-trinity crashes while tuning dvb-t device |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 618 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=618 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, KDM Log File |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 808 filed by jayaramanmani@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=808 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, SUDO removal problem during install |
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| MutantTurkey | dude just played my firest real gig |
| MutantTurkey | niceee |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|sat|sigh: sup |
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| Shdwdrgn | New install from trinity maverick CD... does anyone have a solution to getting pidgin to run? It segfaults on both machines I've loaded trinity on. |
| Shdwdrgn | think I finally found something... kgtk-qt3-kde3 appears to be the culprit. |
| Shdwdrgn | so the next question is, is there a replacement for that package that functions correctly? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 809 filed by winlinuxuser@gmx.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=809 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, no ssl in kmail or konqueror |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| MutantTurkey | so tired |
| Shdwdrgn | stay up coding until 3am? :-) |
| MutantTurkey | I gigged! |
| MutantTurkey | for my first time |
| MutantTurkey | played a rocking show too |
| Shdwdrgn | I'm not sure what that means |
| MutantTurkey | I played a concert with my band |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| Shdwdrgn | ah sweet |
| MutantTurkey | yep! |
| MutantTurkey | ls |
| MutantTurkey | whoops |
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| MutantTurkey | I think I am going to kick qt3's butt today and work out some build warnings |
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| ld100 | hey everybody |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 635 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=635 major, P4, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, Incorrect conversion of encodings in kmail-imap (or something) |
| MutantTurkey | hey ld100 |
| MutantTurkey | whats up? |
| ld100 | ah playing with remote desktop to trinity :) |
| ld100 | yourself? |
| MutantTurkey | working on squashing compiler warnings |
| MutantTurkey | where the heck is any good C++ documentation? |
| ld100 | I wouldnt know.. I'm not really much of a programmer. Just some python/cython |
| ld100 | what do you mean by squashing compiler warnings, if you dont mind my asking? |
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| MutantTurkey | ld100: often times if things aren't exactly right, but arent exactly wrong, instead of throwing a error, the compiler will just say a warning |
| MutantTurkey | which tells you it could be a potential problem |
| ld100 | ah .. like unused variables, etc |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | which are also just a waste |
| MutantTurkey | also complicated comparisons |
| MutantTurkey | if( A = B & C ) |
| MutantTurkey | sort of how english can be confusing. |
| ld100 | those are ineffecient you mean? |
| ld100 | or the compiler isnt sure about them |
| MutantTurkey | six times four plus 8 could mean 6 x (4 + 8) or 6 x 4 + 8 |
| MutantTurkey | well the compiler assumes one |
| MutantTurkey | but just to be sure its better to specfy exactly |
| MutantTurkey | or unintended results could happen |
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| ld100 | I always use brackets, if nothing else then my own clarity |
| MutantTurkey | that too also pops up |
| MutantTurkey | brackets help keep everything easy to read |
| MutantTurkey | readabilty is the top priority |
| ld100 | Yeah I just learned the beauty of classes as I work on my first larger application with a GUI |
| ld100 | at first i wrote everything like a big script and it was totally unreadable |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | I come from C land. so C++ feels terrible to me |
| MutantTurkey | Bloated and confusing. |
| MutantTurkey | C is so... so perfectly readable and nice |
| MutantTurkey | but maybe I'm a old fogie |
| ld100 | huh, I havent really seen much of either. I was going to jump into c but i found cython.. since i already knew python... |
| MutantTurkey | jump into C |
| MutantTurkey | it's not to scary :-) |
| MutantTurkey | just make sure to read all the documentation! thats the key with everything |
| ld100 | yeah it didnt seem too crazy, i read over some intro docs |
| MutantTurkey | don't quit now :p |
| MutantTurkey | ld100: are you new to trinity or have you been around for a while? I don't think i've seen you in here at all. |
| ld100 | well, the original reason was I'd like to try and bring PTPd over to windows a put a nice GUI on it |
| ld100 | I'm new to the channel :) |
| ld100 | just spotted it on the website |
| ld100 | cant believe i hadnt thought to check for one before |
| MutantTurkey | PTPd? |
| ld100 | precision time protocol daemon.. theres open source c code, compliant with the precision time protocol standard |
| MutantTurkey | yeah mostly we work on mailing lists, but we hold meetings in the IRC and have some floaty offtopic chat |
| MutantTurkey | PTPd for windows |
| MutantTurkey | I'd help. I just dont have windows :-) or use it. or even understand it |
| ld100 | :) I'm mainly a kubuntu user but I'm trying to bring it to the masses so to speak.. I'm helping out some freinds in a university lab who are doing recordings |
| ld100 | EEG's and magnetometers on different computers |
| MutantTurkey | Understandable |
| ld100 | I wrote them some python that shows the difference between the system clocks but I'd like to get some "real" code for them |
| MutantTurkey | as a musician, my only recomendation is to stay the hell as far away from linux recording as you can |
| MutantTurkey | what does your example python code do? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 810 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=810 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Desktop Lock loses focus and "locks you out" permanently |
| ld100 | well, first it sychronizes the windows timestamp and high precision timer |
| MutantTurkey | oh cool |
| ld100 | stupid 15ms resolution otherwise |
| MutantTurkey | how accurate is that? |
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| ld100 | well, it can capture a change in the slow resolution timestamp, and mark the precision timer value in about 5.7x10-7 s or slightly less than a microsecond? |
| ld100 | so it loops over the timers a bunch of times to get that smallest time lapse for the synch |
| ld100 | I didnt make up that code, i implemented in python from http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc163996.aspx |
| MutantTurkey | why don't you just use the C version |
| MutantTurkey | or C++ rather |
| ld100 | well i did it in cython, I dont really know how to integrate that code with mine |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| ld100 | I wrote a tikinter gui around the original, with sockets to connect server/client |
| MutantTurkey | yeah cython is a bit tricky I bet |
| MutantTurkey | sockets :x |
| ld100 | then extended it so it does ICMP pings and timestamps as well |
| MutantTurkey | can't you slap a windows gui in C++? |
| MutantTurkey | on it |
| ld100 | probably, i jusst used the tools i new already |
| ld100 | I dont find cython tricky at all |
| MutantTurkey | Im just unfamiliar with python |
| ld100 | in fact you dont HAVE to change your python at all, it just apparently *helps* if you "type" your variabbles before hand |
| MutantTurkey | no idea... |
| MutantTurkey | aren't all variables typed in python? |
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| ld100 | well, i think its what they call weakly typed? |
| ld100 | I can go x = "string" |
| ld100 | x = 5 |
| ld100 | x + 1 |
| MutantTurkey | sounds weak :P |
| MutantTurkey | yeah thats rather loosey goosey |
| MutantTurkey | C is more like this |
| MutantTurkey | int i; |
| MutantTurkey | i = 6; |
| MutantTurkey | everything has to be initialized at the top of the function |
| MutantTurkey | well, it's good to :) |
| MutantTurkey | but you need to declare everything before hand basically |
| ld100 | yeah, cython's like that |
| ld100 | heh you sound like a disciplined programmer.. you would probably vomit if you saw my code ;p |
| ld100 | I'm working on it though :) |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | not at all |
| MutantTurkey | I am sloppy fool |
| MutantTurkey | https://github.com/mutantturkey/sb/blob/master/sb.c#LNaN |
| MutantTurkey | look it is terrible |
| MutantTurkey | I don't do intentation |
| MutantTurkey | I know how to do it, I am just lazy :-) |
| ld100 | :) |
| MutantTurkey | :D blech |
| MutantTurkey | this is rather tedious |
| ld100 | still squashing? |
| MutantTurkey | qt3 is large :-P |
| MutantTurkey | && ( dst->depth() != 1 || !( (dx&7) || (sx&7) || ((sw&7) && (sx+sw < src->width()) || (dx+sw < dst->width())) ) ) ) |
| MutantTurkey | that is confusing |
| MutantTurkey | fml |
| MutantTurkey | like. cmon people. |
| MutantTurkey | who writes that! |
| ld100 | that is confusing :) is that c++? |
| MutantTurkey | C but yes |
| MutantTurkey | it's just a giant comparison |
| MutantTurkey | this and this and this and this but not that |
| MutantTurkey | anyway, going out to eat |
| MutantTurkey | cya later dude |
| ld100 | right on, catch ya later |
| MutantTurkey | yumm |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 811 filed by contact@philipashmore.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=811 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, screen saver doesn't kick in when I lock the screen like it used to |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: dead |
| MutantTurkey | hours of boolean logic is killing me |
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| Shdwdrgn | I did an upgrade from maverick to natty tonight, and the upgrade failed generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-32-generic (initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptlukssc failed) |
| Shdwdrgn | I can't seem to find any discussion of this via google. Anyone have a fix? |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: I don't think that can be related to trinity |
| MutantTurkey | looks as if the cryptlukssc init tool is failing |
| MutantTurkey | hook' is failing |
| Shdwdrgn | well yeah, I got that much :-) |
| MutantTurkey | are you using crpyto on your hard drive? |
| MutantTurkey | (sorry) |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | some people dont even read their messages! |
| MutantTurkey | did you upgrade only Trinity or a host of random crap with it? |
| Shdwdrgn | the only mention of that hook I found on google was from a patch update in trinity |
| MutantTurkey | oh up to natty |
| MutantTurkey | dang |
| Shdwdrgn | no, not using crypto |
| MutantTurkey | yeah dude you're probably screwed I dunno |
| MutantTurkey | that is why I hate ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | it's a garunteed break every six months |
| MutantTurkey | every upgrade I've ever done has gone belly up |
| Shdwdrgn | I've never run into this under ubuntu... I just upgraded three servers last month from maverick to natty without any issues |
| MutantTurkey | are you booted into natty or still on maverick? |
| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: smartcardauth... |
| Shdwdrgn | I rebooted and it bombed on the 2.6.38 kernel, but I was able to boot into the old 2.6.35-32 kernel |
| MutantTurkey | thats the problem |
| MutantTurkey | remove smartcard auth if you can |
| Shdwdrgn | got it, trying |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | then report the bug to the bug tracker |
| MutantTurkey | http://bugs.trintiydesktop.org |
| MutantTurkey | I got lucky, the only result. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cryptlukssc |
| Shdwdrgn | AH!!! initramfs finished that time, and its now finishing installing the final packages |
| Shdwdrgn | maybe now my video drivers will work again |
| Shdwdrgn | huh... and now it says there are updates for initramfs-tools and initramfs-tools-bin |
| Shdwdrgn | want to bet those updates fix this problem? |
| MutantTurkey | 5 buck |
| MutantTurkey | } |
| MutantTurkey | lprh |
| MutantTurkey | I hate the x clipboard |
| MutantTurkey | 5 bucks :) |
| Shdwdrgn | haha |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully it does |
| MutantTurkey | smartcard auth is a good tool, i've never seen it cause poblems |
| Shdwdrgn | well there's no reason for me to try to reinstall the package just to see if it works with the update |
| MutantTurkey | yeah you probably will never need it |
| MutantTurkey | it works with natty (i am on natty now) |
| Shdwdrgn | waiting for reply email for creating bugzilla account, so going to reboot and see if I can get my dual-monitor working again |
| Shdwdrgn | back shortly |
| MutantTurkey | are you on 3.5.13? |
| MutantTurkey | okay the email should be automatic |
| Shdwdrgn | um... 3.5.13? What does that version relate to? |
| MutantTurkey | that is the current version |
| Shdwdrgn | of...? |
| MutantTurkey | trinity. |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| Shdwdrgn | I'm not sure... I just installed from a trinity maverick cd, then saw there was an update to natty |
| MutantTurkey | you mentioned Dual Monitors, I wanted to make sure you were on 3.5.13 because of the awesome monitor and display tool |
| Shdwdrgn | if there's one in here, I never could find it |
| Shdwdrgn | I have an ATI card, only way I;ve ever gotten dual display to work was via catalyst, which is a pain |
| Shdwdrgn | how do I get my trinity version? |
| MutantTurkey | settings -> periperials -> monitor and display |
| MutantTurkey | go into konqueror |
| MutantTurkey | Help menu -> about trinity |
| MutantTurkey | fastest way i think |
| Shdwdrgn | 3.5.12 |
| Shdwdrgn | and I have no peripherals under settings menu |
| MutantTurkey | yeah thats 3.5.13 |
| MutantTurkey | okay so you'll want to do this |
| MutantTurkey | well, reboot first |
| MutantTurkey | ;-0 |
| Shdwdrgn | ok, brb then |
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| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: HEY |
| MutantTurkey | okay so first do apt-get update right |
| MutantTurkey | anything there? |
| Shdwdrgn | thank god, I have dual-display... I have room to breath again! |
| MutantTurkey | you might have to manually edit your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| Shdwdrgn | update/upgrade... no new packages |
| MutantTurkey | I think all you have to do is edit that file, remove the old trinity lnes and add this |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | look there |
| MutantTurkey | under Natty |
| Shdwdrgn | hmm trinity isn;t even mentioned in sources.list |
| Shdwdrgn | ah its a ppa |
| MutantTurkey | oh I didn't know that |
| Shdwdrgn | yeah I have four lines pointing at ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno who made that CD |
| MutantTurkey | replace those |
| MutantTurkey | with the ones at that link |
| Shdwdrgn | oh... and they're all commented out |
| MutantTurkey | whut |
| MutantTurkey | what lines are there? |
| MutantTurkey | Idon't know what random maverick CD this was either :-P |
| Shdwdrgn | # deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/ubuntu natty main # disabled on upgrade to natty |
| Shdwdrgn | # deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/ubuntu natty main # disabled on upgrade to natty |
| Shdwdrgn | # deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/ubuntu natty main # disabled on upgrade to natty |
| Shdwdrgn | # deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/ubuntu natty main # disabled on upgrade to natty |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | remove that |
| MutantTurkey | replace with the lin. |
| MutantTurkey | link' |
| MutantTurkey | KINK |
| MutantTurkey | fail. |
| Shdwdrgn | its whatever one was on the trinity website earlier last Summer |
| MutantTurkey | last summer oh man |
| MutantTurkey | I'm all about debian :-P but you should be A-ok with what I said |
| MutantTurkey | 3.5.13 has plenty of new stuffs too |
| Shdwdrgn | ok doing update/upgrade now |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13 |
| MutantTurkey | R14 is due this half of the year |
| MutantTurkey | expect a LOT more bug fixes |
| Shdwdrgn | hmm I could have sworn I set FF to be my default browser |
| MutantTurkey | whut |
| Shdwdrgn | I've been running ubuntu on this computer since hardy, upgrading all along, then moving to trinity when (choke) kde4 came out... my system was just not running well after all that, so I did a fresh install on a new drive friday... still working on getting everything back in shape again |
| Shdwdrgn | holy carp |
| Shdwdrgn | 458 updates now |
| Shdwdrgn | this should be interesting |
| Shdwdrgn | oh... those links you sent me, they keep opening in konq |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I know |
| MutantTurkey | it happens for me too |
| MutantTurkey | I use konversation |
| MutantTurkey | i never bothered to fix it |
| Shdwdrgn | I'm in xchat, it should be using the system defaults |
| MutantTurkey | yeah the good thing about it is 1) if i send you a picture, it will open it in a picture viewer using TDE or if its a tex tfile, it'll open kate |
| MutantTurkey | but with links it always opens konq |
| MutantTurkey | havent figured that out |
| Shdwdrgn | hmm this is not looking promising... |
| Shdwdrgn | Resolving dependencies... |
| Shdwdrgn | open: 58086; closed: 57654; defer: 15887; conflict: 865 |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | whats conflicting? |
| MutantTurkey | does ubuntu automagically remove conflicting packages? |
| MutantTurkey | I assume it's ALL the old trinity packages |
| Shdwdrgn | its still working... and hammering my cpu |
| MutantTurkey | maybe just blanket remove them all and intsall the other one |
| Shdwdrgn | hmm I've never seen this happen before... its really working hard trying to figure out this upgrade |
| MutantTurkey | let it chug |
| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: I gotta sleep soon |
| MutantTurkey | my next bet is the Mailing List |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully if you cant work it out someone can |
| Shdwdrgn | we'll see... at least I'm up and running on natty now |
| Shdwdrgn | thanks for the help! |
| MutantTurkey | yessir |
| MutantTurkey | I'll be around tomorrow all day as well |
| Shdwdrgn | cool |
| MutantTurkey | nighty nighty |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 812 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
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| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: hey man |
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| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: heyy |
| MutantTurkey | :d |
| strowi | hi |
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| MutantTurkey | hi strowi |
| Shdwdrgn | welcome back |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: did you resolve that issue? |
| Shdwdrgn | nope |
| MutantTurkey | dang |
| MutantTurkey | so where were we at? |
| Shdwdrgn | I let it try to run all night, and it was still hung up trying to get through the depends |
| strowi | i am currently trying to build kdelibs-3.5.13 on gentoo..;\ |
| MutantTurkey | strowi: whats the problem? |
| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: oh man |
| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: honestly, I say get a fresh install of Debian, do a simple install of just the basics, no GUI, then add Trinity on to. |
| strowi | well, currently kdelibs is complaining about missing artskde.cc during compilation.. |
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| MobileTurkey | this wifi conncetion >-> |
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| MobileTurkey | strowi: there might be a patch in the bug tracker for cmake |
| MobileTurkey | let me look |
| MobileTurkey | strowi: are you using cmake or autotools? |
| strowi | cmake |
| strowi | i am not very familiar with cmake though.. |
| strowi | i guess it might be an error with the ebuild/build-env |
| MobileTurkey | what command are you using ot build? |
| MobileTurkey | cmake -DBUILD_ALL=ON? |
| strowi | no |
| MobileTurkey | ...? |
| strowi | only alsa arts, tiff, jasper |
| MobileTurkey | there are ebuilds btw |
| MobileTurkey | somewhere |
| strowi | mhh looks like witout arts/alsa i am able to finish compilation |
| MobileTurkey | okay yeah stay away from arts anyway |
| strowi | yes i know about the ebuilds, i am trying to get a working 3.5.13 series;) |
| MobileTurkey | tran is at the station gotta run! |
| strowi | will try, gotta run also.. be back later. Bye! |
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| mutantturkey | I hate waiting for emails |
| l0ner | yo |
| l0ner | why? |
| mutantturkey | hey l0ner! |
| mutantturkey | havent seen you in a long time |
| l0ner | yep, I've been studing |
| l0ner | a lot |
| mutantturkey | whats up? |
| l0ner | since coming month will be a exam month |
| l0ner | not much |
| l0ner | fixes in PKGBUILDs, finished i18n split PKGBUILD |
| Shdwdrgn | turkey, I might have found a solution... the trinity page says to install "kubuntu-default-settings-trinity" and "kubuntu-desktop-trinity"... I'm installing the desktop now (which of course removes the current kde3 desktop), and that seems to be going just fine. So maybe that's the trick to getting the upgrade done. |
| l0ner | and I think I need to upload patch that fixes doc location in tdebase and tdelibs |
| l0ner | oh, right... I need to install ubuntu |
| Shdwdrgn | at the very least, it should greatly reduce the number of conflicting depends once its all done |
| mutantturkey | we need to switch it back to the mirrors |
| mutantturkey | because the idaho meirror went down |
| mutantturkey | also can I disown them? I don't have any time to work on the packages |
| l0ner | ah, about mirrors, I think someone should change the page on website about that |
| l0ner | uh, lol, ignore what i just wrote xD |
| mutantturkey | whut |
| l0ner | mutantturkey: do you think you could change the website layout to the one i proposed? The actual one is hurting me eyes |
| mutantturkey | is there a place I can look at it? |
| mutantturkey | it's on github correct? |
| l0ner | yep |
| mutantturkey | huh |
| mutantturkey | link |
| mutantturkey | ? |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | wait |
| l0ner | https://github.com/l0ner/html/tree/master/tde2 |
| l0ner | just pull whole html repo if you need to |
| l0ner | what you are interested is in tde2 folder |
| mutantturkey | can you take a screen shot of it? :-P |
| l0ner | sure |
| mutantturkey | i'm on a windoze box |
| mutantturkey | so i cant do anything |
| l0ner | wait... I'll do something else |
| Shdwdrgn | ack! The horror! |
| l0ner | I'll try to set it on githubpages |
| * l0ner is too on win | |
| mutantturkey | kk |
| Shdwdrgn | the double horror! |
| mutantturkey | Shdwdrgn: wat now lol |
| Shdwdrgn | people on windows boxes |
| Shdwdrgn | oh the humanity! |
| mutantturkey | lol I know |
| mutantturkey | I'm at work on my friends PC |
| * l0ner uses windown on his workstation box | |
| * l0ner is hardcore gamer | |
| Shdwdrgn | all right, time to reboot and see how bad this broke my system... |
| l0ner | mutantturkey: http://l0ner.github.com/html/ |
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| mutantturkey | yeah I remember now |
| mutantturkey | I seem to be incorrecetly rendering the top part though |
| mutantturkey | the T D E is screwy in my firefox on this PC |
| mutantturkey | i gotta go though, meeting |
| l0ner | mutantturkey: image is missing, i'm gonna fix that |
| l0ner | does someone know where the TGears icon is? I cant find it... |
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| Shdwdrgn | well that was horribly convoluted, but I managed to manually complete the upgrade process |
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| * l0ner still needs to upgrade | |
| Shdwdrgn | wow, its so nice to click on a .doc file in an email, and have libreoffice actually *open* the file. |
| Shdwdrgn | its been something like 2 years since libre/open-office have worked here |
| l0ner | lol |
| * l0ner hates waiting while code compiles... | |
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| l0ner | we have 2 turkeys here! |
| MobileTurkey | turkayy |
| MobileTurkey | oh yeah i'm in another office meeting |
| MobileTurkey | still logged in over there |
| Shdwdrgn | lets cook them both |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: damn, your nick is too long |
| l0ner | too much chars to write |
| Shdwdrgn | l0ner, try typing 'mo' and hitting the tab key |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: lolz!! |
| l0ner | lulz |
| l0ner | it worked |
| Shdwdrgn | welcome to 1997 :-) |
| MobileTurkey | why? |
| MobileTurkey | just type Mo tab |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: anyway, I put the tde website on github pages |
| MobileTurkey | isn't that great ;) |
| MobileTurkey | okay I saw |
| l0ner | And I think I will jekylize it later |
| MobileTurkey | did I tell you it was not rendering properly |
| l0ner | and fill it with content |
| MobileTurkey | and can I get the link again:P |
| l0ner | http://l0ner.github.com/html |
| MobileTurkey | thank you |
| l0ner | the image logo was missing |
| MobileTurkey | oh okay |
| MobileTurkey | :)) |
| MobileTurkey | it's not allowed to be our home page if it doesnt render in konqueror properly... |
| l0ner | as i said i will fill it with content nd jekilyze it, so i can demonstarate how it will work if we base it on git and jekyll/octopress |
| l0ner | wait i'll check |
| MobileTurkey | it's broken in firefox too. |
| MobileTurkey | the TDE isn't lining up right |
| MobileTurkey | I know it was before though.. |
| MobileTurkey | missing a style sheet? |
| l0ner | urk |
| l0ner | i know why |
| l0ner | nah |
| l0ner | float: left; on image seems not to work |
| MobileTurkey | i hate css |
| MobileTurkey | it never works |
| l0ner | nah, css itself is fine |
| l0ner | problem is that the implementations are broken |
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| l0ner | damn he's away.. |
| mutantturkey | who? |
| l0ner | ah, no you here |
| l0ner | mutantturkey: i fixed logo |
| mutantturkey | cool |
| mutantturkey | just got back |
| l0ner | gr8 |
| mutantturkey | still borked |
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| l0ner | huh? |
| l0ner | what this time? |
| l0ner | still logo? |
| l0ner | for me it renders fine, i tried opera, konqueror, firefox and ie [urk...] |
| mutantturkey | now it works well |
| l0ner | gr8 |
| mutantturkey | yeah its pretty good |
| l0ner | uh... why the background on konqueror isn't white? |
| mutantturkey | what? |
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| mutantturkey | i dunno about konq |
| l0ner | it seems that konqueror sets background to whathever the system uses when it is not specified |
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| pocahunters-1337 | Hi |
| mutantturkey | hi! |
| pocahunters-1337 | I'm running Trinity 3.5.13 stable on a fresh ubuntu 11.10 64-bit, but kicker crashes all the time... http://pastebin.com/rGQpbyaN |
| mutantturkey | l0ner: probably via the stylesheet |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 812 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
| mutantturkey | pocahunters-1337: okay let me look |
| mutantturkey | pocahunters-1337: this has been patched. |
| mutantturkey | let me try and find a bixed source for you ok? |
| pocahunters-1337 | what is a bixed source? |
| pocahunters-1337 | :-D |
| pocahunters-1337 | sorry dude.. i'm not that good at english |
| mutantturkey | fixed |
| mutantturkey | fixed source |
| pocahunters-1337 | ah.. thanks! |
| mutantturkey | the bug has been fixed, but I need to find you a download link |
| mutantturkey | how good are you with the command line? |
| pocahunters-1337 | really good :-) |
| pocahunters-1337 | did linux from scratch |
| mutantturkey | you may be required to build a small librrary |
| mutantturkey | okay cool |
| pocahunters-1337 | i'm really sorry for this, but i have to admit, that trinity sucks... everytime i try to install it there are lots of problems... |
| pocahunters-1337 | every damn time -.- |
| mutantturkey | :[ I'm sorry |
| mutantturkey | terribly sorry |
| mutantturkey | Trinity is great, the problems suck |
| pocahunters-1337 | :-D |
| pocahunters-1337 | that's right |
| mutantturkey | I feel like I just run into problems every time i have to install anything... |
| mutantturkey | 11.10 |
| mutantturkey | what is that? |
| mutantturkey | oneriec? |
| pocahunters-1337 | oneric ocelot |
| mutantturkey | ok |
| mutantturkey | libart git repo |
| mutantturkey | git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/libart-lgpl |
| mutantturkey | pocahunters-1337: any other problems with trinity? |
| pocahunters-1337 | not yet. i just started it and didn't do anything else. |
| mutantturkey | heh |
| mutantturkey | hopefully we can resolve it |
| pocahunters-1337 | that would be great! :-) |
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| pocahunters-1337 | cloned the repo, what now? |
| pocahunters-1337 | ./configure --prefix=/opt/trinity ? |
| mutantturkey | nope |
| mutantturkey | I have a binary |
| mutantturkey | are you 64 bit? |
| pocahunters-1337 | cool! |
| pocahunters-1337 | yep |
| mutantturkey | http://mirror.ets.kth.se/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu/pool/main/liba/libart-lgpl/libart-2.0-2_14.0.0-0ubuntu0+r2+pr6~oneiric_amd64.deb |
| mutantturkey | that should be it |
| mutantturkey | install it |
| mutantturkey | dpkg -i |
| mutantturkey | should work |
| pocahunters-1337 | ok.. installed it. killing kicker now. |
| pocahunters-1337 | yippiee! |
| pocahunters-1337 | works! |
| pocahunters-1337 | mutantturkey: YOU'RE AWESOME! |
| mutantturkey | Indeed I am |
| mutantturkey | mostly you are awesome because most people just give up right away |
| mutantturkey | luckily with team work we were able to get it patched up |
| pocahunters-1337 | :-) |
| pocahunters-1337 | but there is another problem i encountered in previous editions (since 3.5.12) too |
| pocahunters-1337 | i can' mount harddisks and so on. it claims, that i don'T have the permission to do that. |
| pocahunters-1337 | ho to fix that? |
| pocahunters-1337 | *how |
| mutantturkey | is it still bugging you? |
| pocahunters-1337 | yes. i hoped that it will be fixed in a newer release, but it didn't |
| * l0ner h is back | |
| * l0ner is full | |
| l0ner | that was my 3rd dinner today... |
| mutantturkey | hah |
| mutantturkey | i had some chinese food for lunch |
| mutantturkey | that is it |
| l0ner | my nighbours keep giving me free food today |
| l0ner | dunno why |
| mutantturkey | thats good :P |
| l0ner | maybe i need to check my wifi... |
| l0ner | yep xD |
| l0ner | anyway... i built x86_64 packages for arch! |
| l0ner | no split ones tho :( |
| pocahunters-1337 | cool! |
| l0ner | and they are testing ones |
| pocahunters-1337 | are they stable yet? |
| pocahunters-1337 | stable = not so much bugs |
| l0ner | nah |
| l0ner | i need to verify |
| mutantturkey | lol stable |
| mutantturkey | stable enough |
| mutantturkey | I use em |
| pocahunters-1337 | i'm sorry for ranting about trinity. i think it's very cool that you keep kde3 alive, which is, i guess, a lot of work. big kudos to the entire trinity-team, esspecially you mutantturkey. i'm in a bad mood today. sorry |
| mutantturkey | :) |
| mutantturkey | it's okay! |
| pocahunters-1337 | is somebody of you is using compiz? what is the best way to get it running (autostart, etc.)? |
| mutantturkey | no I never used it |
| mutantturkey | load up compiz, save the session |
| mutantturkey | eh? |
| l0ner | mutantturkey: do you know what lcms is? tdegraphics keeps me asking for it on cmake stage, i installed what i found in pacman, but it still complains.... |
| mutantturkey | lcms... |
| mutantturkey | http://www.littlecms.com/ |
| l0ner | that i found |
| l0ner | and i found it in pacman |
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| mutantturkey | yeah... |
| mutantturkey | I dunno |
| mutantturkey | no idea honestly |
| l0ner | ok, it's needed fot ksvg and ConfigureChecks.cmake searches for lcms.h which is present on my system under /var/include/lcms.h |
| l0ner | */usr/include |
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| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | about this i forgot |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 813 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=813 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDE temporary directory names conflict with KDE4 names |
| l0ner | i need to remove build files in order to get missing dep work, after i added it |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 813 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: I see you move today a lot |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: i know running around like a chicken with no head |
| l0ner | a turkey |
| l0ner | with no head |
| mutantturkey | lol |
| l0ner | :P |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| mutantturkey | muahahaha |
| l0ner | lol lol lol lol lol lol lol <----- zombie army seen form above |
| l0ner | :P |
| MobileTurkey | haha |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 381 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=381 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, media:/ doesn't work as root |
| l0ner | ok, this is strange... |
| mutantturkey | what? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 618 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=618 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDM Log File |
| mutantturkey | resolving so many bugs I love it |
| mutantturkey | R14 is gonna rock hah |
| l0ner | when it comes out |
| l0ner | damn... i got bug in tdegraphics |
| l0ner | it fails to build now |
| l0ner | but builded wehn i worte pkgbuild... |
| l0ner | damn |
| mutantturkey | weird |
| mutantturkey | remvoe the source folder and try again eh? |
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| l0ner | no |
| l0ner | its bug in poppler-tqt |
| l0ner | bridge |
| l0ner | tried fixing it |
| mutantturkey | what is the erorr |
| mutantturkey | give me the code? |
| mutantturkey | also are you using the latest poppler-tqt |
| l0ner | od we have poppler-tqt bridge? |
| l0ner | i didn't see it in the tarballs |
| l0ner | *do |
| Shdwdrgn | hey turkey - you mentioned 3.5.13 has a manager for dual monitors... where is it? |
| mutantturkey | ? |
| mutantturkey | settings -> peripherals -> mnitor and display |
| l0ner | mutantturkey: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/539480 |
| mutantturkey | Shdwdrgn: GO THOUGH |
| mutantturkey | sorry, did you get it? |
| Shdwdrgn | yeah from the system settings panel, not from the K menu |
| Shdwdrgn | looks like new things are there... might have to play with it at some point and see if it works any better than catalyst |
| mutantturkey | the display control? |
| mutantturkey | thats entirely new |
| l0ner | urk... i think tdegraphics is screwing with me |
| mutantturkey | ddude then dump it |
| mutantturkey | who cares |
| mutantturkey | :-P |
| l0ner | i care |
| l0ner | damn... when I look @ the new tde site css i wonder how much drunk i was while writing this... |
| mutantturkey | lol |
| l0ner | it's like... shit... did I really wrote this? it's spaghetti |
| l0ner | wait... I think I might actually be drunk when i was writing this... now that i think about it... |
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| ytoox | has anyone packaged the domino kde style to work with trinity? |
| mutantturkey | ytoox: I think so |
| mutantturkey | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/kde3trinity+style+domino?content=141408 |
| mutantturkey | see that |
| ytoox | checking |
| ytoox | mutantturkey, I tried that package and it does not show up on the list of styles in kde control. It installs fine but I cannot select it |
| mutantturkey | huh let me try it |
| ytoox | I will try compiling the source one and see if that changes anything :D |
| ytoox | ok |
| mutantturkey | that might be it |
| mutantturkey | where is the source? |
| mutantturkey | ytoox: the reason it won't work is because the paths are incorrect |
| mutantturkey | they are pointed towards /opt/kde3 |
| ytoox | I see |
| ytoox | what should they be? |
| l0ner | /opt/trinity |
| ytoox | is there a way to set a path while installing? |
| mutantturkey | no |
| mutantturkey | tat is completely borked |
| mutantturkey | I suggest recompiling from source |
| ytoox | ok, I took the tar.gz from kde-look and I am tryingt to compile it |
| MobileTurkey | how? isn't it juts a deb? |
| MobileTurkey | all i saw that was a deb |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 814 filed by shdwdrgn@sourpuss.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=814 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Upgrading natty 3.5.12 to 3.5.13 cannot be completed |
| ytoox | it is a different package, http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=42804 |
| mutantturkey | Shdwdrgn: is that your bug? |
| Shdwdrgn | yep |
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| Shdwdrgn | I got the upgrade resolved manually, but it took quite a lot to get there |
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| mutantturkey | so are you up and running ? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 815 filed by shdwdrgn@sourpuss.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=815 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Upgrade from maverick to natty fails at initramfs |
| Shdwdrgn | yep... after all that, I'm completly updated and upgraded, running 3.5.13. |
| mutantturkey | and... hoow is it? |
| Shdwdrgn | well... I don't really see any changes |
| mutantturkey | Shdwdrgn: thats not an enhancement... |
| mutantturkey | that shouldbe marked as a major bug |
| mutantturkey | both of them... |
| l0ner | mutantturkey: could you explain this error to me: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/539497/ ? I don't know how to fix it... |
| l0ner | -_- |
| mutantturkey | and it's pretty much the same, excetpt for a few exceptions |
| mutantturkey | l0ner: sure |
| Shdwdrgn | ok, I never know how to label bugs. |
| Shdwdrgn | should I change it, or let a developer make their own call on the imporatance? |
| MobileTurkey | CHANGE IT |
| MobileTurkey | Shdwdrgn: i'm a developer I hereby order you to change it |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: i've not seen anything like it |
| l0ner | lol |
| MobileTurkey | you have libext installed, i dunno |
| l0ner | I'll try building it on 32bit vm |
| MobileTurkey | are you linking it correctly? |
| MobileTurkey | no idea... |
| l0ner | and see if it reproduces |
| l0ner | dunno |
| l0ner | what you mean by linking it correctly? |
| Shdwdrgn | haha yessir! |
| l0ner | liext is installed |
| MobileTurkey | no |
| MobileTurkey | is it being linked correcetly in the cmake lists |
| l0ner | i'll check |
| l0ner | but i think it is |
| Shdwdrgn | done and done |
| mutantturkey | Shdwdrgn: good work |
| ytoox | MobileTurkey, as I am compiling I get this error " |
| ytoox | I can't find the designer plugins. These are required and should have been installed |
| ytoox | by kdelibs |
| MobileTurkey | yeah okay |
| ytoox | but I am not sure as to what package I am missing |
| MobileTurkey | remove the admin directory |
| MobileTurkey | and replace it with this one: |
| ytoox | where is it located? |
| mutantturkey | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/admin/tree/ |
| mutantturkey | in that folder |
| mutantturkey | do you see the directory admin? |
| mutantturkey | download that one from git |
| mutantturkey | replace it |
| mutantturkey | then do |
| mutantturkey | make -f admin/Makefile.common |
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| ytoox | k, let me try it :D |
| MobileTurkey | yep |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: try and add it to the cmake lists |
| MobileTurkey | under ksnapshot |
| MobileTurkey | under LINK |
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| l0ner | I did, now i need to try to compile it |
| mutantturkey | okay then |
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| l0ner | i think it worked |
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| mutantturkey | lol |
| mutantturkey | nicee |
| mutantturkey | feel like I am helping everybody today and it's working out |
| l0ner | lol |
| mutantturkey | :P |
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| l0ner | now to update my logal clone of tde and commit what i did to main tree |
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| l0ner | MobileTurkey: what do you think, this linker problem should be fixed in main tree too? |
| MobileTurkey | probably |
| l0ner | kay, will commit after finished pulling latest version of tde |
| l0ner | from git |
| MobileTurkey | oh definitely should be in our git. |
| l0ner | I'll see |
| MobileTurkey | I don't know about the main git for trinity |
| MobileTurkey | :-) ask tim |
| l0ner | well... theoretically i have access to main too |
| l0ner | well... sending mail to him isnt a problem |
| l0ner | waiting for response is |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: I recall you've been talking to the kdemod3 guys about repo for binaries? |
| l0ner | some time ago |
| l0ner | well... i use this word too much :P |
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| ld100 | :) |
| Z_God | MobileTurkey: hey |
| Z_God | I don't know if you saw my mail about having a separate git branch for a bugfix release before the R14 release |
| Z_God | what would you think about that? |
| MobileTurkey | whats up? |
| MobileTurkey | yes I have seen it |
| MobileTurkey | I think it would be good, the energy to do it isn't there |
| MobileTurkey | I think maintainers need to dotheir own |
| Z_God | I think it wouldn't be bad is someone other than Timothy, maybe even Slavek Banko could arrange such a release |
| MobileTurkey | someone should compile the patches into a tarball |
| MobileTurkey | Slavek Banko? |
| Z_God | the guy who did the backporting |
| Z_God | if those patches would end up in a branch from which stable updates could be easily pushed to all the repositories, I think the current release could get simple improvements relatively quickly |
| MobileTurkey | what is his name? |
| MobileTurkey | the problem is the git tree was done AFTER kde 3.5.13 |
| MobileTurkey | so maybe in the next versions a branch would be easy |
| Z_God | are there differences between the initial git version & 3.5.13? |
| Z_God | Slávik Banko is the guy who made the backports |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| MobileTurkey | no, what is his email or nick? |
| MobileTurkey | I think specific patches should be manually backport patches |
| Z_God | slavek.banko@axis.cz |
| Z_God | from his mail |
| Z_God | yes, I agree |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| Z_God | and only simple bugfixes |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| Z_God | maybe even only regressions |
| MobileTurkey | someone should collect those, a tarball of patches |
| MobileTurkey | ya know |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: Baho was pulling 3.5.13 stable code from git |
| l0ner | for his PKGBUILDS |
| MobileTurkey | dude I have no idea what baho is doing |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: he is making git builds then... |
| Z_God | that would me 3.5.13 is in git |
| l0ner | besides there is version that is tagged 3.5.13 |
| Z_God | mean* |
| MobileTurkey | 3.5.13 is not in git if he is calling from git |
| MobileTurkey | 3.5.13 was the inital git import |
| Z_God | actually |
| MobileTurkey | but it took a month to get to git and took a long time |
| MobileTurkey | complicated system. |
| MobileTurkey | ya know |
| Z_God | I expect that it was a full import |
| Z_God | so all the old revisions should still be there |
| MobileTurkey | it was |
| l0ner | maybe tim should be asked about this |
| Z_God | and the old tags as well |
| MobileTurkey | but using submodules and it was pretty complicated |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: we have talked to tim |
| l0ner | he'll know more, since he is the one who did it all |
| l0ner | and? |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: it was ssplit into many repos as well |
| Z_God | in theory it should be possible to branch from 3.5.13 at least |
| MobileTurkey | and whatever |
| MobileTurkey | he is pretty whatever about it |
| MobileTurkey | yes it's a good idea |
| Z_God | or smth that comes very close to it |
| MobileTurkey | it however requires a lot of work |
| MobileTurkey | work for maintainers |
| Z_God | what about the 3.5.13 tag? |
| l0ner | i know baho was using it as 3.5.13 stable code, instead of using tarballs... |
| MobileTurkey | it's tagged 3.5.13? |
| l0ner | yep |
| MobileTurkey | oh well |
| MobileTurkey | then |
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| MobileTurkey | :-P |
| l0ner | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde/tag/?id=v3.5.13 |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: what is your email btw? |
| MobileTurkey | Sadin: hi Sadin |
| Z_God | MobileTurkey: julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com |
| Sadin | pinging me twice lol! |
| Sadin | not needed XD |
| MobileTurkey | Sadin is interested in trinity, I know him from our PA LoCO group |
| Sadin | ^ tis true |
| MobileTurkey | he just started with it today, but mentioned that he has experience with Artwork. Logo's Icons and such |
| l0ner | great! |
| MobileTurkey | so yeah:P |
| Z_God | l0ner: that looks good |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: thats what I said |
| Z_God | cool :) |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: k thanks |
| MobileTurkey | (i get so mixed up with to many people) |
| l0ner | lol |
| MobileTurkey | l0l |
| Sadin | let me link yuo somethin |
| MobileTurkey | l0l-ner |
| l0ner | lol xD |
| MobileTurkey | Sadin: ok |
| l0ner | true too xD |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: dude I love Deskzilla |
| l0ner | wut is deskzilla? |
| l0ner | ok, found it |
| l0ner | w00t!! kdegraphics compiled correctly!!! |
| MobileTurkey | a bugzilla desktop frontend |
| l0ner | next: kdemultimedia |
| MobileTurkey | w00t |
| MobileTurkey | did you commit that? |
| MobileTurkey | also did you fix the mirror locations? |
| l0ner | kdegraphics PKGBUILD? |
| l0ner | yes, yes yes |
| MobileTurkey | okay :-) |
| l0ner | PKGBUILDS for kde* components are un the git |
| Sadin | MobileTurkey and anyone else who cares heres a sample of some captions i was designing for my portfolio website http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/341/e/9/website_captions_by_zachsnyder-d4ifrto.png i was going for minimal and clean |
| l0ner | they are not slipt packages yet... but they build |
| MobileTurkey | I like minimal and clean |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: I don't care as much abot split as building |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: I know :D |
| Z_God | btw. I am planning to go to Fosdem, hope that maybe I can see some people from KDE ;) |
| MobileTurkey | we need to drop the KDE Dragon as well. |
| MobileTurkey | It's still floating around |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: haha oh god |
| l0ner | but i care ofr split, since i want to have official repo for binaires at some point |
| MobileTurkey | avoid Martin Grasslin or it'll be WW3 |
| Z_God | I'd like to see him actually |
| l0ner | lol xD |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | and start a war?? |
| * MobileTurkey was kidding | |
| MobileTurkey | but anway |
| MobileTurkey | represent! |
| l0ner | bring some nukes |
| Sadin | Oh and buy the way heh i have experiance im on the fedora design team and for my iniation i designed the banner for the fedora16 release on their main page |
| Sadin | :D really proud of that hehe |
| l0ner | nice ;) |
| MobileTurkey | Sadin: lots of links and stuff |
| MobileTurkey | more links the better |
| l0ner | you can start with fixing our website :P |
| Z_God | MobileTurkey: actually it doesn't seem tactically wise to act as representing, I'd better approach them neutrally |
| MobileTurkey | I want to be sure of you before I make any recommendations |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: yeah probably |
| MobileTurkey | though I would like to get a booth at some conferences |
| MobileTurkey | soon |
| MobileTurkey | after R14 |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: still busy? |
| Z_God | MobileTurkey: the fact he wrote on his blog that we have to wait for KDE 4.8 to see proper kwin performance again already justified trinity imo |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| MobileTurkey | I stay away from the argument |
| Z_God | I would like to see kwin updated at some point |
| Xu_R | MobileTurkey: SATs this week. My parents are trying to study me to death.. >_>" |
| Z_God | if he's making kwin modular to enable that, I'd like to see that |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: I didn't even study before SATS |
| MobileTurkey | this was in december |
| MobileTurkey | I sat around and played Halo CE the night efore |
| Xu_R | XD |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: If he nevermind.. |
| MobileTurkey | i don't care |
| Z_God | MobileTurkey: trinity's kwin has known problems |
| Sadin | oldie but a goodie back when i still used ubuntu http://zachsnyder.deviantart.com/art/UbuntuWall-213017684 |
| Z_God | that will take ages of debugging |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: it's not bad. |
| Z_God | the less trinity will need to maintain the better |
| MobileTurkey | FIRST OF ALL FIRST OF ALL |
| MobileTurkey | TWIN is so bloat |
| MobileTurkey | dude good window manager can be written in 2SLOC, trinity can be too |
| MobileTurkey | it's really big |
| MobileTurkey | like, i dunno |
| MobileTurkey | trinity has plenty of bloat |
| MobileTurkey | twin is good though |
| Z_God | that's not the point |
| MobileTurkey | stable for me at least |
| Z_God | and twin has bugs |
| Z_God | they come to light with special apps |
| Z_God | and special set-ups |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| MobileTurkey | I concur |
| MobileTurkey | which ned to be worked on |
| MobileTurkey | we don't need to scrap it |
| Z_God | so if we could get a newer kwin to compile against the trinity libs with relatively little effort |
| Z_God | that seems better |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: definitely not. |
| Z_God | kwin without compositing and so on is probably not that different from trinity's twin |
| MobileTurkey | not to me at least |
| Z_God | the majority of the code is likely even equal |
| MobileTurkey | kwin pulls in so many heavy depends |
| Z_God | did you read Martin's mail about that? |
| Z_God | most of them can be disabled at compile time |
| MobileTurkey | it depends on kdelibs from kde 4 and is slower |
| Z_God | and he wants to remove even more |
| Xu_R | (I dislike Martin's tone with us on the mailing list >_>) |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: frankly I see his point, I just don't care.. |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: yeah well |
| Z_God | that's why we want to compile it against our own kdelibs |
| MobileTurkey | I mean twin works for me great. using kwin will only make it more troule for me |
| Sadin | MobileTurkey http://zachsnyder.deviantart.com/gallery/30384262 |
| Z_God | and I think that should be relatively easy |
| Sadin | and the webstuff ive actually felt like posting on dA is here http://zachsnyder.deviantart.com/gallery/30384271 |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: meh Akonadi and Strigi and all that crap |
| Z_God | having more source compatibility with kde4 will only be useful |
| Z_God | that's completely unrelated |
| Z_God | if you only pull in the newer kwin code |
| Z_God | and adapt it to work with trinity, it will just be trinity with an improved version of its window manager |
| Z_God | hunderds of edge cases were fixed in newer kwin versions, so yeah I'd like to see that |
| Z_God | and timothy took maintenance over of all the big libraries anyhow, so they can be changed as much as needed to gain more source compatibility |
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| MutantTurkey | dummb wifi |
| MutantTurkey | whatddimiss |
| Sadin | my links :P |
| MutantTurkey | fast. |
| MutantTurkey | one stop away from my stop on the train |
| Sadin | (06:05:56 PM) Sadin: MobileTurkey http://zachsnyder.deviantart.com/gallery/30384262 |
| Sadin | (06:06:39 PM) Sadin: and the webstuff ive actually felt like posting on dA is here http://zachsnyder.deviantart.com/gallery/30384271 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey ^ |
| Sadin | :P |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/539529/ could you look at this? |
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| Z_God | l0ner: my guess would be that the code was meant to be compiled against an older xine version |
| l0ner | damn i hate obscure compilation errors |
| l0ner | argh... |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know anything about kde multimedia |
| MutantTurkey | obviously xine isn't getting included |
| MutantTurkey | check your headers for xine |
| MutantTurkey | gotta fly |
| MutantTurkey | cya guys! |
| l0ner | vya |
| l0ner | *cya |
| Z_God | bye! |
| Z_God | l0ner: search for those function names |
| Z_God | and see if they are still in the latest version/version you have |
| l0ner | i'll look |
| Z_God | if yes, then indeed it would be a problem with the includes, if no, there is likely a trivial patch needed for the code to use smth newer |
| l0ner | Z_God: there is no such thing on my system |
| Z_God | no xine at all? |
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| l0ner | xine-lib is installed |
| Z_God | does it include the development headers? |
| l0ner | but there is no function like xine_gui_send_vo_data |
| l0ner | yep id doues |
| l0ner | I grepped whole /usr/include |
| Z_God | then it was probably deprecated |
| l0ner | there is xine.h |
| l0ner | googletime |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | first hit will tell that it's deprecated |
| Z_God | http://git.openbricks.org/?p=libplayer.git;a=commit;h=d917dd197745d9f0f754a709692c502b2ff99076 |
| Z_God | maybe you also found it already |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | i'll try and we'll se if it works |
| l0ner | ok, now i have conversion problems |
| Z_God | normally there should be docs about it |
| l0ner | i'll search |
| Z_God | what I did when I had such things |
| Z_God | I search for both the old & the new method |
| Z_God | and I would also run into diffs from other projects |
| Z_God | like this one: https://heads.olmeclinux.com/scm/viewvc.php/trunk/pornview/src/support/widgets/gtkxine.c?r1=24&r2=49&pathrev=49&root=pornview&view=patch |
| Z_God | then you can kind of see how others dealt with it :) |
| l0ner | Z_God: I think I fixed it |
| Z_God | l0ner: cool :) |
| l0ner | It compiles, dunno if works, it will need testing ;) |
| l0ner | but it's a step forward |
| Z_God | maybe you can send in a patch if there's no fix in git yet? |
| l0ner | no, it's not fixed in git |
| l0ner | I will later gather all the patches I did for my binaries and send them to mailinglist |
| Z_God | you had to fix many things? |
| l0ner | some, maostly typos, missing ld links and such things |
| l0ner | or deprecated function like this one |
| l0ner | but not much |
| Z_God | sounds like quite a bit to me actually |
| l0ner | maybe |
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| l0ner | cya guys |
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| MutantTurkey | school wifi sucks |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 60 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=60 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Opera Web Browser menu entry not provided by K Menu |
| MutantTurkey | whut |
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| Shdwdrgn | hey turkey, a question for you... now that I have 3.5.13 installed, when I plug memory cards into usb, they no longer automount, and konq doesn't pop up a window for the cards |
| MobileTurkey | :)\ |
| MobileTurkey | whut |
| Shdwdrgn | whut whut? |
| Shdwdrgn | it no werky |
| MobileTurkey | okay let me see |
| MobileTurkey | Shdwdrgn: settings -> peripherals -> storage media? |
| Shdwdrgn | I've plugged in both a usb memory card and a usb hard drive. Syslog shows the usb activity, and I can manually mount the drives with no problem, but there is no automounting taking place |
| Shdwdrgn | ok got it open |
| Shdwdrgn | unmounted removable medium => I have 'open in new window', 'download photos', and 'do nothing' |
| Shdwdrgn | under the advanced tab, 'enable autostart...' is checked |
| MobileTurkey | sorry I can't help |
| MobileTurkey | I have to catch the bus |
| MobileTurkey | :x |
| MobileTurkey | I'll be on around 5ish EST probably |
| MobileTurkey | or else send into the ML |
| MobileTurkey | thanks! |
| MobileTurkey | :) |
| Shdwdrgn | ok |
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| MobileTurkey | Shdwdrgn: yo |
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| strowi_ | hi |
| strowi_ | can anyone help me to compile kaffeine with cmake? |
| Shdwdrgn | MobileTurkey, heya |
| MobileTurkey | heya |
| MobileTurkey | strowi_: yeah me |
| MobileTurkey | strowi_: do you have the sourcss/ |
| MobileTurkey | ? |
| strowi_ | ;) hi MobileTurkey, yes got the sources from 3.5.13 |
| MobileTurkey | okay good |
| MobileTurkey | using cmake |
| MobileTurkey | mkdir build |
| MobileTurkey | cd build |
| MobileTurkey | cmake ../ |
| MobileTurkey | make |
| strowi_ | but there is no CmakeList? |
| MobileTurkey | strowi_: kaffeine doesnt use cmake then. |
| MobileTurkey | uses autotools |
| MobileTurkey | okay intstead do this: |
| MobileTurkey | make -f admin/Makefile.common |
| MobileTurkey | ./configure |
| MobileTurkey | make |
| MobileTurkey | taday |
| strowi_ | ahh;) that looks better;) |
| strowi_ | except some libtool version mismatch.. |
| strowi_ | but i guess thats sth gentoo-specific |
| MobileTurkey | uh dunno |
| MobileTurkey | error? |
| strowi_ | yes.. "libtool: Version mismatch error. This is libtool 2.2.6b Debian-2.2.6b-2ubuntu1, but the definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.4." |
| MobileTurkey | huh |
| MobileTurkey | I have no idea |
| MobileTurkey | automake is hell |
| strowi_ | i am not really a dev or autotools expert either... will have to check in with some gentoo-dev then.. |
| Shdwdrgn | ok working on too many pieces at one time :-) |
| Shdwdrgn | MobileTurkey, did you have any thoughts about what happened with the automount? |
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| MobileTurkey | Shdwdrgn: no idea honestly |
| MobileTurkey | strowi: that and maybe check into trinity's ml |
| MobileTurkey | Shdwdrgn: so repeat the problem ( sorry :-P) |
| MobileTurkey | I've plugged in both a usb memory card and a usb hard drive. Syslog shows the usb activity, and I can manually mount the drives with no problem, but there is no automounting taking place |
| Shdwdrgn | also you mentioned as mailing list... is that the kubuntu-kde3.5-users list? |
| MobileTurkey | whut... |
| MobileTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org |
| MobileTurkey | look under Support |
| Shdwdrgn | ok |
| Shdwdrgn | repeating the problem... |
| Shdwdrgn | take a usb memory stick and plug it into the computer. It *should* automount, and bring up a box asking if I want to open the device in a new window, or something.... |
| Shdwdrgn | however it does not automount, nor ask me what to do with it |
| MobileTurkey | did you try what i said |
| MobileTurkey | settings -> peripherals... etc |
| Shdwdrgn | yeah I still have that open... under the advanced tab, the option "enable medium..." is checked |
| MobileTurkey | huh |
| MobileTurkey | are you running hal? |
| MobileTurkey | what distro is this? |
| Shdwdrgn | ubuntu... installed maverick (and usb worked as expected). Upgraded to natty, then upgraded to trinity 3.5.13 |
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| MobileTurkey | oh yeah |
| MobileTurkey | huh. |
| MobileTurkey | is it a ntfs usb? |
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| Shdwdrgn | ok hal looks like a clue... |
| MobileTurkey | is it running? |
| Shdwdrgn | hal is not show up under ps ax. I restarted it, and get in syslog: hal-trinity respawning too fast, stopped |
| MobileTurkey | huh |
| MobileTurkey | why is it respawning? |
| Shdwdrgn | ah |
| Shdwdrgn | segfault at 0 ip 0805747d sp bfe02960 error 4 in hald[8048000+4f000] |
| Shdwdrgn | that was hald |
| MobileTurkey | weird |
| Shdwdrgn | looks like that happened several times before it was stopped |
| Shdwdrgn | let me try reinstalling the hal packagaes that are already here, maybe something didn't finish in all that mess I went through for the upgrade |
| Shdwdrgn | I have hal-kde3 AND hal-trinity installed. Should I remove the kde3 version? |
| MobileTurkey | remove hal-kde3 |
| MobileTurkey | though I am almost sure it's just a transition package |
| Shdwdrgn | it didn't say it was like the others did |
| Shdwdrgn | ok hal-kde3 removed, then reinstalled hal hal-info hal-trinity libhal-storage1 libhal1 |
| Shdwdrgn | hmm |
| Shdwdrgn | ok hald is running now |
| Shdwdrgn | ... but still no automounting |
| Shdwdrgn | unplugged the card, restarted hal, plugged the card back in.. syslog shows the card being detected and added as /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc1... but that's as far as it goes |
| Shdwdrgn | is there any other service that I might have to restart? |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: yo dude! |
| Shdwdrgn | he's hiding |
| l0ner | why? |
| l0ner | russians are searching for him? |
| l0ner | he upset italian mob? |
| l0ner | or? |
| Shdwdrgn | some newb keeps bugging him about trinity not working ;-) |
| l0ner | what newb? |
| l0ner | I see only you int hte log |
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| l0ner | are you still there? |
| Shdwdrgn | release the rockets |
| Shdwdrgn | think I'm gonna reboot and see if this kickstarts things |
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| l0ner | works? |
| Shdwdrgn | damn, it's not saving my desktop when I reboot |
| Shdwdrgn | now I have to figure out what the solution to that was all over again |
| l0ner | well... trinity is a little problematic atm |
| l0ner | I have problems with arts... ;/ |
| Shdwdrgn | ah! It DOES automount the usb devices now |
| Shdwdrgn | sweet |
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| Shdwdrgn | I'll have to add that to my bug report |
| l0ner | if my were problems like yours... |
| Shdwdrgn | Trinity... it's the new Windows! Reboot, and everything will work fine :-) |
| l0ner | lol |
| Shdwdrgn | oh wait... there was something that is supposed to run, and doesn't... that was why the desktop didn't get saved |
| l0ner | ok, now I know where bug is! |
| l0ner | time to fix |
| Shdwdrgn | your bug, not mine? |
| l0ner | mine |
| Shdwdrgn | ah well |
| l0ner | xine_artsplugin from kdemultimedia is broken |
| l0ner | and makes artsd crash |
| Shdwdrgn | oh? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | first I couldn't even get it to compile |
| Shdwdrgn | got mine |
| Shdwdrgn | kwin doesn't start |
| l0ner | uh |
| l0ner | why |
| l0ner | ? |
| Shdwdrgn | kwin is apparently what remembers what you had running on your desktop when you do a shutdown |
| l0ner | no |
| Shdwdrgn | but it doesn't run automatically, I have to add it to ~/.trinity/Autostart |
| Shdwdrgn | no? |
| l0ner | kwin draws window borders, the session manager remembers what you had running |
| Shdwdrgn | ever since I started running trinity, I've had to add kwin to my startup. This is the only affect I see of it not running... my desktop doesn;t restore after a reboot |
| l0ner | kwin is window manager |
| Shdwdrgn | maybe so, I really don't know. I just know what happens if its not running |
| Shdwdrgn | if there's a better way, I'm all for it. This is just the only solution I ever found that worked. |
| l0ner | don't ask me |
| l0ner | for me it autostarts |
| l0ner | let's see if I can fix m problem with xine |
| Shdwdrgn | really? Maybe there's another place to drop it rather than in autostart |
| Shdwdrgn | no problem |
| l0ner | theoretically it should be started automatically by start kde, kdeinit or whathever starts trinity |
| Shdwdrgn | from what I'm reading, if it wasn't running, there shouldn't be much of any kind of desktop showing... yet everything appears fine. |
| Shdwdrgn | maybe there's some aspect of it that doesn't start properly the first time its called |
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| Shdwdrgn | I see a lot of references to video card drivers, and I do have an older chipset |
| Shdwdrgn | ah well, worry about it some other time |
| l0ner | ok, I going to sleep |
| l0ner | cya |
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| neo_ | The irc link on http://trinitydesktop.org/support.php seems to be missing a separating slash. At least konversation 1.4 fails to connect that way. |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: I didn't even realize Irc could be linked |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: just messaged the webadmin |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: yep, it's a convenient thing. Also works e.g. in recent versions of Konsole (KDE4) |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: thanks for notifying the admin |
| neo_ | I am offline. Should get some sleep. Bye. |
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| neo_ | There are corrupt png files in the GIT tree. Is anyone here able to fix them if I list the exact files and the problems? :) |
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| neo_ | Welcome back everyone. |
| neo_ | Now I can repeat my question. :) |
| neo_ | There are corrupt png files in the GIT tree. Is anyone here able to fix them if I list the exact files and the problems? :) |
| Shdwdrgn | I was just noticing when a tooltip disappears, any text behind it is not redrawn. |
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| neo_ | For example main/dependencies/python-tqt/examples3/tt-logo.png is just broken. Somewhere near the end of the zlib data stream a single byte has been lost. When investing some time it is probably possible to reconstruct the lost byte. However, the maintainer probably knows where to get the file without corruption. :) |
| MutantTurkey | whats the problemnow? |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| neo_ | There are corrupt png files in the GIT tree. Is anyone here able to fix them if I list the exact files and the problems? :) |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | I suggest you email tim directly or use the bug tracker |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: my guess is corruption occured while switching to git from SVN |
| MutantTurkey | or during the renaming of the project |
| neo_ | Using the bug tracker is probably not a good idea. It is far too much. |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: are you sure the files are corrupted? |
| MutantTurkey | I open that file fine |
| MutantTurkey | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/python-tqt/plain/examples3/tt-logo.png?id=b388516ca2691303a076a0764fd40bf7116fe43d |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: strange. I will take a closer look at this. Maybe my git pull did something wrong. |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I think so, I dont see any commits for that image |
| MutantTurkey | huh, I thought git was self checking |
| neo_ | I am confused |
| neo_ | what does the id parameter do? |
| neo_ | (id=b388516ca2691303a076a0764fd40bf7116fe43d) |
| MutantTurkey | hash |
| MutantTurkey | which commit |
| neo_ | How do I get just the latest version? |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: are you sure, you are really viewing the latest version? |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno |
| MutantTurkey | but can you watch this video in the meantime and tell me what you think of matt guitar murphys awesome skills? |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4cCSdrGP9I |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/python-tqt/log/examples3 that is a list of committs in the folder |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: Sounds very good (Matt Murphy's guitar play). |
| MutantTurkey | haha |
| MutantTurkey | he is quite good |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: What I do not unterstand there: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/python-tqt/diff/examples3/tt-logo.png?id=8a055d66f43592c257cece2eb8cc021808062917 |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: it says in that commit 4547 -> 4548 bytes |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | can you run a diff on that? |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: that looks like a fix, because the missing byte returns |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: but actually it is loosing the byte, which is why I am totally confused |
| MutantTurkey | my guess is actually an automatic renaming conversion cought it by accident |
| neo_ | yes, looks much like that |
| MutantTurkey | maybe it randomly saw Qt in there and replaced it with TQt for example |
| MutantTurkey | or KDE to TDE |
| MutantTurkey | notify tim |
| MutantTurkey | ML or bug or personally |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: Also, I don't think we've had a formal introduction. |
| MutantTurkey | I'm Mutant Turkey!:p |
| neo_ | PTQNT4 became PQNT4 |
| neo_ | hehe, I am non-registered neo_, not even a user of trinity |
| neo_ | I have been using KDE3 for many years and wanted to improve some things, especially I wanted to optimize the png files. So I wrote a tool for this task, which does not use libpng, but has its own implementation of everything. |
| neo_ | With this totally different implementation, I could uncover lots of broken pngs in the wild. |
| neo_ | Now I returned to KDE3, now trinity, to finally start applying my tool. :) |
| neo_ | hehe, neo <-> trinity. Did not recognize this earlier. |
| MutantTurkey | how we ll does it work? |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: so you are looking to be a trinity user |
| MutantTurkey | neo huh? I always liked morpheous better. |
| neo_ | The release version of my tool does not do much so far. I am using experimental code to detect the breakages. |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: wow cool |
| MutantTurkey | and it is designed to optimize pngs? |
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| neo_ | Yes, that is what it should do. Currently it can only merge IDAT chunks and remove sBIT chunks if they can be safely removed. |
| neo_ | So, not much what you can gain so far. |
| MutantTurkey | I am not a png genius |
| MutantTurkey | have you heard of optipng? |
| neo_ | Imagine you are applying the tool to all png files of Trinity. You can probably gain about 0,5% reduction in size. |
| neo_ | Yes, I know optipng. It is a fast tool to optimize png files with all the possibilities that libpng gives. |
| MutantTurkey | you want to go beyond |
| neo_ | Yes. There actually are already tools that can go beyond. But I am not happy with them. |
| neo_ | Examples for such tools are advancecomp and pngout (the last one is only free as in beer). |
| MutantTurkey | huh interesting |
| MutantTurkey | would this give a performance boost as well as size boost? |
| MutantTurkey | size reduction rather |
| MutantTurkey | thereby increasing desktop performance overall? |
| neo_ | It can give a slight perfomance gain on loading files. Do not expect much, most benefits will come from file size reduction as this leads to less latency caused by hard drive access. |
| neo_ | In KDE4, there is a cache that will hold the image data, once it is loaded. So no performance improvement at all once the png file has been read one time. |
| neo_ | The size reduction on the other hand can be pleasant. Depending on how well the encoder performed, most png files in the wild can be shrinked between 10% and 50%. |
| neo_ | However, such an optimization must be done carefully. Some tools make possibly harmful operations. |
| MutantTurkey | understoo |
| MutantTurkey | understood |
| neo_ | e.g. pngout's default setting will cause the removal of nearly all ancillary chunks |
| neo_ | While this is what most users in most cases want, when using this tool, this is not appropriate for all applications. |
| MutantTurkey | i see |
| neo_ | kb9vqf@p<antispam>c<antispam>.net is the right e-mail address? |
| MutantTurkey | pearson...computing. yes |
| MutantTurkey | safest thing to do is the ML |
| MutantTurkey | especially we can get group input on what you are trying to do |
| neo_ | before doing any optimiziations, I would like to see all broken png files in the tree fixed :) |
| neo_ | I will create a list of png files that seem to be broken and send it to the mailing list. (This will take time) |
| neo_ | However, I need to be sure that I am viewing the current state of the files. Can you check which one the latest version of tt-logo.png is? |
| MutantTurkey | sure |
| neo_ | Ah, I was wrong. The file I inspected has 1 byte too much, not 1 byte missing. |
| MutantTurkey | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/python-tqt/tree/examples3/tt-logo.png |
| MutantTurkey | that is |
| neo_ | ok, you see the same breakage as I do? (Last three rows uninitialized memory) |
| MutantTurkey | I see the PTQT accidentally converted |
| MutantTurkey | I don't see any breakage because I dont know enough abut png |
| MutantTurkey | I BELIEVE you though |
| neo_ | Alright. Thank you. |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| neo_ | Creating list now (bear with me, my experimental code is still very slow and there are 35,488 files to check) |
| MutantTurkey | oh man |
| MutantTurkey | is it multi threaded? |
| MutantTurkey | something to take advantage of |
| neo_ | it is a multithreaded Java program, but there is some bottleneck that I have not found, yet |
| neo_ | the profilers I have tried so far did not tell me what exactly is going wrong |
| MutantTurkey | java... |
| MutantTurkey | :x |
| MutantTurkey | that is the problem! |
| neo_ | no :P |
| MutantTurkey | using anything but C or C++ for crunching will kill you... |
| neo_ | basically it should currently only decode and calculate check sums |
| MutantTurkey | so why is it so slow? |
| MutantTurkey | because it's java... |
| neo_ | this should be fast even in Python, Perl or php |
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| MutantTurkey | how are you calculating the checksums? |
| MutantTurkey | hey rdieter |
| rdieter | MutantTurkey: hi |
| MutantTurkey | rdieter: how are you? |
| rdieter | just lurking around |
| MutantTurkey | heh |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: all languages I laugh at |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| neo_ | what about Fotran? :) |
| neo_ | *Fortran |
| MutantTurkey | thumbs up! |
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| neo_ | MutantTurkey: whops, I missed your question about how I calculate the checkums |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: it's okay |
| MutantTurkey | I'm supposd to be working anyway :P |
| neo_ | well, I can tell you that for Adler32 calculation I use the Java package java.util.zip.Adler32, which uses a very fast native C implementation :) |
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| neo_ | and crc-32 is a Java class |
| MobileTurkey | sorry I timed out |
| MobileTurkey | say it again :-)? |
| neo_ | well, I can tell you that for Adler32 calculation I use the Java package java.util.zip.Adler32, which uses a very fast native C implementation :) |
| neo_ | and crc-32 is a Java class |
| MobileTurkey | okay cool |
| MobileTurkey | :-) |
| MobileTurkey | so how is the progres going? |
| neo_ | meh, did I mention that my code in use is experimental? |
| neo_ | Looks like I have a race condition somewhere |
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| neo_ | about 1 in 5.000 runs end up in a weird faulty state of the program |
| neo_ | Did not manage to reproduce it in the debugger, yet. |
| neo_ | I guess, I will still run it now and check the results for validity. |
| neo_ | or rather: the result is a list of files which triggered an error. So I will check the results for invalidity. |
| MobileTurkey | weird |
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| neo_ | problem found (at least I think, I have found it, further testing will show): I used == in a condition instead of >= |
| MobileTurkey | ah maybe |
| MobileTurkey | why would that break after X amount of loops? |
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| neo_ | It's a race condition. The corresponding code is part of a queue that is used by the threads for communication |
| neo_ | when taking a value from the queue, a check is done like that: if (outPos >= outMax) |
| neo_ | if that is the case, the internal buffers must be switched. However, it is possible that outMax is reduced early |
| neo_ | and therefore it must be >= instead of == |
| MobileTurkey | I see |
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| neo_ | And after a bit more of concentration, I realize, that I was stupid. The == was ok, as any modification of outMax also ensures that outPos is smaller. So the hunt for the bug continues… |
| MobileTurkey | dihjvvcnmg |
| neo_ | Sorry. That is an abbreviation I do not know. |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| MobileTurkey | smashing on the keyboard |
| MobileTurkey | :) |
| MobileTurkey | with my head |
| neo_ | I hate race conditions. I call it a day and will continue probably tomorrow |
| neo_ | bye :) |
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| MobileTurkey | okay :D |
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| Shdwdrgn | hey MobileTurkey, you still alive? |
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| MobileTurkey | Shdwdrgn: sorry hanging with the gf |
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| Shdwdrgn | MobileTurkey, no problem, some other time |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 635 from CONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=635 major, P4, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Incorrect conversion of encodings in kmail-imap (or something) |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 559 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=559 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine crashes while access to xine after startup |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 559 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=559 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kaffeine crashes while access to xine after startup |
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| MobileTurkey | Shdwdrgn: sup |
| Shdwdrgn | heya |
| Shdwdrgn | (an hour later) :-) |
| MobileTurkey | I can't talk |
| MobileTurkey | paper to write |
| MobileTurkey | sorry |
| MobileTurkey | it's only 2 pages |
| MobileTurkey | hopefully I can bang it out quickly |
| Shdwdrgn | a question for you... I'm noticing a distinct lag in display repaint in situations with popup windows... like tooltips on some screens, or drop-down menus on something like firefox. I hadn't noticed that before, was wondering if it might be a desktop thing. |
| Shdwdrgn | ah no problem... |
| Shdwdrgn | that's the gist of the problem, I'll be here for a few hours, talk to me when you have time |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 816 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=816 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdelibs FTBFS with tqt3 |
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| MobileTurkey | yawwnnn |
| MobileTurkey | Shdwdrgn: okay i'm back |
| MobileTurkey | Shdwdrgn: huh did you try editing your performance options ? |
| MobileTurkey | try disabling adnimated menus |
| Shdwdrgn | er... give me a clue what that's under? |
| Shdwdrgn | I've found animate buttons, animate shading, displaying contents when moving a window... so far nothing regarding the menus |
| Shdwdrgn | for that matter I don't see any animation happening when I click a drop-menu at the top of a window... all the options just pop up. |
| MobileTurkey | lol sorry |
| MobileTurkey | got stuck watching bill bosby |
| MobileTurkey | probably not the right bt anywaay |
| MobileTurkey | gotta crash |
| Shdwdrgn | some other time |
| Shdwdrgn | have a good one |
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| Torin | hi |
| Torin | is there a pssibility to use 1-4 desktops on one monitor, and ie 5-6 on second one? |
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| cest | hi :) |
| Torin | or just create another desktop on second monitor, with possibility to move applications there? |
| cest | bye |
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| Z_God | Torin: no idea, maybe you can just try it |
| Z_God | if it doesn't work, it means that kpager needs to learn to work with xinerama |
| Torin | use it a secondary display, one desktop without nothing but with possibility to move applications there? |
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| MutantTurkey | woodsman? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 817 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=817 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tqca: No tqca package exists for the new tqt3 |
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| strowi | hi |
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| * strowi still trying to compile kaffeine... | |
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| strowi | does anyone know howt o |
| strowi | howto fix this kaffein error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/541278 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 818 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=818 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, amarok: several build options missing with the cmake conversion |
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| Manabu2 | hi |
| Manabu2 | I just upgraded from kde 3.5.10 to trinity 3.5.12 on debian lenny |
| Manabu2 | in my virtual machine |
| Manabu2 | and the memory consumption at boot rised by 10mb, from 38mb to 48mb |
| Manabu2 | it seems most because more processes |
| Manabu2 | http://www.imagebam.com/image/55ceb7171760440 |
| Manabu2 | now I'm updating to debian squeeze, and after to trinity 3.5.13 |
| K`zan | Not sure why but I put the repositories back in and still no updates for TDE. |
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| Manabu2 | ok, I enabled artsd on the old instalation, but it only takes 1 more mb of memory |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 618 from RESOLVED FIXED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=618 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, KDM Log File |
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| MobileTurkey | hey all |
| MobileTurkey | Manabu2: what's up with arts? |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 692 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=692 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Kate: focus is broken when using the --use parameter |
| Manabu2 | (MobileTurkey): nothing really: |
| Manabu2 | .:19:30:16:. <Manabu2> I just upgraded from kde 3.5.10 to trinity 3.5.12 on debian lenny |
| Manabu2 | .:19:31:01:. <Manabu2> and the memory consumption at boot rised by 10mb, from 38mb to 48mb |
| Manabu2 | .:19:31:10:. <Manabu2> it seems most because more processes |
| Manabu2 | .:19:31:13:. <Manabu2> http://www.imagebam.com/image/55ceb7171760440 |
| Manabu2 | just wanting to know what caused the memory usage increase |
| MobileTurkey | do you know what processes changed? |
| Manabu2 | well, I captured most in that screenshot |
| MobileTurkey | is that becaus VBoxClient is running on the higher one? |
| MobileTurkey | tsak is probably aslo running, which is minmally drawing memory |
| Manabu2 | the /usr/bin/X11/X is just a link to the /usr/X11R6/X |
| MobileTurkey | are you on 3.5.12 or 3.5.13? |
| MobileTurkey | oh 12 |
| Manabu2 | now I'm updating to debian squeeze, and after to trinity 3.5.13 |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| MobileTurkey | okay :D |
| Manabu2 | the vboxclient is running on the one using less memory... |
| MobileTurkey | so it is... |
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| Manabu2 | and I forgot to make an snapshot after installing trinity and before starting the upgrade to squeeze... |
| MobileTurkey | did you use both of these sessions before this picture? it seems that (at least to me) you are running several kio processe more |
| MobileTurkey | but those could be default startups |
| MobileTurkey | hald seems to be taking up more as well |
| Manabu2 | I tried to copy my old .kde configurations to trinity |
| MobileTurkey | meh |
| MobileTurkey | did you use the script? |
| Manabu2 | but it didn't worked |
| Manabu2 | no |
| MobileTurkey | ah |
| Manabu2 | I don't know about scripts |
| MobileTurkey | bug 709? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=709 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, A proposed KDE3 profile directory migration tool |
| Manabu2 | I will see it latter |
| Manabu2 | but interesing |
| Manabu2 | *interesting |
| Manabu2 | also, trinity aplications don't add themselves to the $PATH right? |
| Manabu2 | like, runing "kedit" or "kedit-trinity" don't work here |
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| MutantTurkey | your path should be added within the environment |
| MutantTurkey | everything is installed /opt/trinity/bin/ |
| MutantTurkey | so you should add that to your path |
| MutantTurkey | sorry had to reconect |
| Manabu2 | ok |
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| Manabu2 | it will not generate conflicts with applications for kde4? |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | well it shouldn't |
| MutantTurkey | all files are seperated to /opt/trinity/bin |
| MutantTurkey | I never used kde4 though |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know about pathwize |
| Manabu2 | ok |
| Manabu2 | I must always type the old KDE3 name + "-" + tab now, I guess |
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| MutantTurkey | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | you don't like Krystal/ |
| MutantTurkey | I used to hate it |
| MutantTurkey | now I love it |
| MutantTurkey | woodsman |
| ld100 | monochrome is the only way to go :) |
| ld100 | sorry, completely random blathering :p |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | me too don't worry :-P i accidentally do it often |
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| Manabu2 | it seems that every update is 10mb more of ram consumption |
| Manabu2 | now, after lenny -> squeeze, I'm at 60mb |
| Manabu2 | 12mb more, actually |
| Manabu2 | there is a flood of console-kit-daemon processes |
| Manabu2 | 113 tasks vs 43 tasks pre-update |
| Manabu2 | not a trinity problem, but anyway |
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| Manabu2 | now I got down to 48mb of memory on debian squeeze and trinity 3.5.13 vs 38mb on lenny and KDE 3.5.10 |
| Manabu2 | and it is runing even a little less services than before |
| Manabu2 | is trinity for debian compiled with gcc -O2, -Os, or -O0? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 819 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=819 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, automake build error: unary operator expected |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 819 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| strowi | hey, can anyone tell me what the *.moc files are used for how they are generated? |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: ping |
| MutantTurkey | pong |
| l0ner | I'm at loss |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| l0ner | with arch packages |
| l0ner | I looked at kdemod3 old PKGBUILDs |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| l0ner | and they provided something that was valled kdemod3-common, which contained things like pam autentication configs and so on |
| l0ner | I think that providing things like those in external package is a bit strange |
| l0ner | and should be provided by packages that we already have |
| l0ner | but I don't really know where for example should go the pam configs, since they were providing 3 of them |
| MutantTurkey | why did they do that? |
| l0ner | dunno |
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| l0ner | I'm thinking about asking them on the forum |
| MutantTurkey | thats weird |
| MutantTurkey | reall weird |
| MutantTurkey | sup Manabu2 |
| MutantTurkey | sure on the Arch General ML |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: that applet... |
| MutantTurkey | I might take a stab at it |
| MutantTurkey | relatively small |
| MutantTurkey | probably could implement in a day |
| l0ner | what? kima? |
| MutantTurkey | whats kima? |
| l0ner | applet that dsplays system info |
| l0ner | like cpu isage, temp and so on |
| MutantTurkey | one that cna run generic scripts... |
| l0ner | *usage |
| MutantTurkey | thats what I wnat |
| l0ner | ah, that one |
| MutantTurkey | so you could just set it to show whatever info you want |
| MutantTurkey | does it exist yet? |
| l0ner | I'd be more than happy if you did it LD |
| l0ner | :D |
| l0ner | no it doesn't |
| l0ner | i did a little googling and didn't found anything |
| MutantTurkey | you should try but I can too |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | try kde-look.org |
| MutantTurkey | old stuff is stil lthere |
| l0ner | nothing |
| MutantTurkey | from 3.5 days |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | i know |
| MutantTurkey | did I tell you I am in a band? |
| MutantTurkey | I just joined a month or two ago |
| MutantTurkey | and we gigged last week |
| MutantTurkey | played an awesome show |
| l0ner | atm i'm more concentrated on getting PKGBUILDs work like I want |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| l0ner | whoah :) 'grats ;) |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.facebook.com/clairvoyanceband?sk=app_178091127385 |
| MutantTurkey | listen up |
| l0ner | wait |
| MutantTurkey | :[ |
| l0ner | i need to listen to it on my pc |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | oka |
| MutantTurkey | hah |
| l0ner | kay, listening |
| l0ner | i can't use audio on my laptop where i have trinity |
| l0ner | because of nast bug in xine_archplugin form kdemultimedia |
| MutantTurkey | ew yuck |
| l0ner | it can't be build against newer versions of xine because of the API brekage/replacement |
| l0ner | and when I got it to compile, it either crashes arts, of plays constatnt high freq sound |
| l0ner | pretty annoing |
| l0ner | and amarok don't see it as engine |
| l0ner | this will require some work |
| MutantTurkey | high freq might not be related |
| l0ner | Or replacement |
| l0ner | it is |
| l0ner | arts throws me bugs from this plugin |
| MutantTurkey | thats a kernel issue I think |
| MutantTurkey | I get it using external sound devices like my usb converter |
| l0ner | yeah, but it worked well up until now |
| MutantTurkey | F arts |
| MutantTurkey | lol I hate it so much |
| l0ner | yeah, I'd like to replace it at some point |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | well hal needs to go to |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't seen samelian in a while |
| l0ner | with interface to use whatever user want to use (pulse/alsa/wathever) and framework for decoding media (like gstreamer) |
| l0ner | yeah, hal is priority |
| l0ner | Cracked Glass [demo] too noticable tempo switch at the begining |
| l0ner | and percussion is too high |
| MutantTurkey | ew stop sto stop! |
| MutantTurkey | get off of the demo |
| l0ner | lol xD |
| MutantTurkey | its really terrible |
| l0ner | nah, it's nice |
| MutantTurkey | pouring rain |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I am gonna email you the EP |
| MutantTurkey | ok? |
| l0ner | but i'd remove the whole outro thing |
| l0ner | kaay ;) |
| l0ner | I'll be more than happy to recieve it :D |
| l0ner | Maybe you should set up bandcamp.com site |
| l0ner | and distribute it there ;) |
| l0ner | style kinde reminds me of BoA and Delagdos |
| MutantTurkey | sending it |
| MutantTurkey | I knoww |
| MutantTurkey | it's sending |
| l0ner | great |
| l0ner | damn... I think we should drop usage of $KDEDIR, and use instead $TDEDIR |
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| * l0ner_away is away: braaaainss.... ehrm... fooood.... | |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner_away: did you get it? |
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| l0ner | MobileTurkey: I got the mail, but there is only tracklisting inside |
| MobileTurkey | dumb |
| l0ner | argh... i find so much occurrences of $kde*... shouldn't they be replaced by $tde* |
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| MobileTurkey | l0ner: for git builds |
| MobileTurkey | 3.5.13 did not use tde naming |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 820 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=820 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Quanta Plus: Add a WYSIWYM preview mode for DocBook |
| Manabu2 | you guys know about the other qt based, long death, destkop enviroment also named TDE right |
| Manabu2 | XD |
| l0ner | wut? |
| l0ner | obvious troll is obvious? |
| neo_ | just googled it |
| neo_ | http://codigolivre.org.br/frs/?group_id=1605 |
| neo_ | last activity 5.5 years ago |
| * l0ner brings out an axe... | |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | D: |
| l0ner | dead, no one will complain |
| neo_ | someone could ressurect it :) |
| Manabu2 | yes |
| Manabu2 | long death |
| Manabu2 | http://tde.codigolivre.org.br/configura.html |
| Manabu2 | a screenshot |
| Manabu2 | the default debian unstable lxde instalation installs nautilus... |
| Manabu2 | yeah, no dependency that pushed it besides lxde metapackage itself |
| Manabu2 | konqueror >>> pacmanfm >>> nautilus |
| MobileTurkey | so much better |
| MobileTurkey | i need some better konq extensions though |
| l0ner | i need better webengine in konq |
| MobileTurkey | relax it's on its way |
| MobileTurkey | R15 |
| MobileTurkey | :) |
| l0ner | yeah |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: here is a question: did you try the mozilla embedding |
| MobileTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | oh, 1-2 should be the meeting? |
| MobileTurkey | what meeting... |
| l0ner | mozilla embedding? |
| l0ner | wit is dat? |
| l0ner | wait |
| MobileTurkey | huh? |
| MobileTurkey | what meeting... |
| Manabu2 | by the way |
| Manabu2 | http://www.imagebam.com/image/ffc216171924103 |
| MobileTurkey | k mozilla |
| MobileTurkey | kmozilla' |
| Manabu2 | my kde used to have this "kdirstat" view in konqueror |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: sent you mail |
| MobileTurkey | Manabu2: how did you do that? |
| l0ner | kmozilla.. hmm I might try that, never headr about it |
| Manabu2 | and also a search box besides the url box |
| MobileTurkey | seach box is still there. |
| MobileTurkey | enable it in extensions - google search bar |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: k |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: could you give me some pointers where to look for it? google throws me corrected term "mozilla" |
| l0ner | do we have it in our git? |
| MobileTurkey | i'll look |
| Manabu2 | (MobileTurkey): the distro I used to use had it |
| Manabu2 | I don't think they compiled their own kde, so it must have been in debian builds |
| Manabu2 | actually, that is lenny kde 3.5.10 there |
| l0ner | well... I'd like sources, since I'm on arch |
| Manabu2 | maybe an debian patch? |
| MobileTurkey | what distro do you used? |
| MobileTurkey | well did' |
| MobileTurkey | it's just a kioslave afaik |
| Manabu2 | another extension? |
| l0ner | we should add it to trinity... might be nice workaround until r15 |
| MobileTurkey | in kebindings maybe? |
| MobileTurkey | i think someone was working on it |
| Manabu2 | and I don't have the google search extension here to select |
| * l0ner doesn't even want to look at kdebindings... | |
| MobileTurkey | hehe |
| l0ner | not in the kdebindings |
| MobileTurkey | you sure? |
| l0ner | i dont see it |
| MobileTurkey | oh |
| MobileTurkey | the meeting is on the 1'st |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| MobileTurkey | i thought it was today |
| l0ner | lol? |
| MobileTurkey | you wereent looking hard enough silly goose |
| MobileTurkey | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdebindings/tree/xparts/mozilla |
| MobileTurkey | :p |
| * l0ner bangs head on desk | |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | i am blind |
| l0ner | i have proposal for trinity versioning |
| l0ner | instead of having time-based releases, do them when the objectives have been met |
| MobileTurkey | it's a sliding scale really |
| MobileTurkey | if you don't do that, it can be a year or two before users get updates. |
| l0ner | ? |
| MobileTurkey | meaning a LOT of micro releases |
| MobileTurkey | if we do every 6 months, it gieves users a more consistant stream of patches and updates |
| Manabu2 | trinity has moved to git |
| MobileTurkey | Manabu2: yessir |
| Manabu2 | why not mantain one stable git tree |
| MobileTurkey | Manabu2: git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/ |
| Manabu2 | and another one for development? |
| MobileTurkey | Manabu2: right |
| MobileTurkey | git right now is <majorly> unstable. |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: does your metabar work? |
| Manabu2 | and the stable one could be compiled anytime, and critical/simple bugfixes go there |
| Manabu2 | and it is like an point release |
| l0ner | metabar? which one os that |
| l0ner | i'm sorry for my ignorance |
| l0ner | in terms of naming |
| l0ner | and yes, having two branches, one stable one testing and pulling changes into stable after they have ben tested and proved stable might be a good idea |
| Manabu2 | kde never did that because of SVN |
| l0ner | svn don't have branching? |
| Manabu2 | well, it does, but is much more work |
| Manabu2 | AFAIK |
| MobileTurkey | yeah that is a good idea |
| MobileTurkey | it's not to hard to do with git |
| MobileTurkey | we'll probably do that post R14 I think |
| l0ner | would be nice |
| MobileTurkey | just because the git stucture is finally esablished |
| MobileTurkey | I think we need to have people maintaining applications. |
| MobileTurkey | I'll volunteer to maintain kicker and kate |
| l0ner | well, and having some sort of auto generator for tarballs from stable branch would be useful too |
| l0ner | just regenerate the tarballs every time something has been pushed into stable branch |
| Manabu2 | the applications names will remain unchanged (aside from the -trinity)? |
| * l0ner needs to learn more c++ and trinity API | |
| Manabu2 | upstream developers of kde4 versions may not be very happy I think... |
| MobileTurkey | Manabu2: yes |
| MobileTurkey | mostly |
| MobileTurkey | we already renamed kwin, kdesudo some other small stuff |
| MobileTurkey | but tate and tonqueror? |
| MobileTurkey | LOL |
| Manabu2 | tonversation |
| Manabu2 | XD |
| MobileTurkey | i FUCKING hate the k naming convention. |
| MobileTurkey | whenever I launch applets it requires me to use multiple letters |
| Manabu2 | I liked it |
| MobileTurkey | so instead of Alt+F2 k for konqueror I have to type Alt+F2 konq because all apps start with k |
| Manabu2 | oh, there is that problem.... |
| MobileTurkey | just a pita |
| l0ner | well... it might be nice idea to change some apps name as they become something else |
| Manabu2 | but when you are searching for kde aplications |
| Manabu2 | it is handy |
| Manabu2 | :P |
| MobileTurkey | yeah that is a upside |
| Manabu2 | or when you are avoiding kde applications (because you are in lxde or something) |
| MobileTurkey | definitely |
| MobileTurkey | some are just unnaturaly |
| MobileTurkey | amaroK? |
| l0ner | amarok should be rewritten |
| Manabu2 | does amaroc or amarok means something? |
| MobileTurkey | Akregator? |
| MobileTurkey | i hate amarok |
| MobileTurkey | it's so dumb |
| MobileTurkey | it's a terrible player |
| l0ner | why> |
| MobileTurkey | I hate playlist interfaces |
| MobileTurkey | I need a good library interface |
| l0ner | itunes for you? |
| Manabu2 | I like playlists and directory tree interfaces, I hate itunes |
| MobileTurkey | no i hate itunes |
| Manabu2 | in windows I use foobar |
| l0ner | yeah, add that to amarok and let user choose if he want have playlist or library |
| MobileTurkey | foobar is the greates tever |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: I hate that. |
| l0ner | and include fsking sound engine in it |
| MobileTurkey | i want to be able to use a library AND playlists. |
| MobileTurkey | MOC is the best player ever made though |
| l0ner | well... atm you can do it in amarok |
| MobileTurkey | it's for the console however |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: how? |
| l0ner | kinda.. |
| l0ner | you have library and you add things from library into playlist |
| MobileTurkey | also the menus need MAJOR reworking |
| MobileTurkey | it's so confusing |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: thats dumb. |
| l0ner | maybe |
| MobileTurkey | that is an interface that doesn't work well for large collections |
| MobileTurkey | 10,000+ songs and I start getting pissed |
| * l0ner not | |
| l0ner | but amarok still needs update |
| l0ner | argh! I always forget to push into git |
| l0ner | then i sync repo on my vm and I wonder... where did all of my new work go? |
| MobileTurkey | also a flat file backend for the DB> |
| MobileTurkey | that should be easier to implement |
| * l0ner want to have finished those fscking pkgbuilds and move to trinity website | |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| MobileTurkey | question. |
| MobileTurkey | can you fix the hal package? |
| l0ner | didn't i fixed it some time ago? |
| l0ner | it should be in our git |
| MobileTurkey | where? |
| MobileTurkey | is it named hal or hal-trinity? |
| l0ner | tde-base/hal |
| MobileTurkey | ok thanks |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: and I am going to disown this all now |
| MobileTurkey | can you own them? |
| * neo_ finally tries again to run a check against all png files in Trinity git repository | |
| MobileTurkey | neo_: haha |
| MobileTurkey | good luck sir |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: disowning - then can you own hal + all trinity packages |
| l0ner | I'll need to register |
| l0ner | but yes |
| MobileTurkey | also i reccomend burp |
| MobileTurkey | it makes it easy |
| MobileTurkey | to upload from cli |
| MobileTurkey | so you can bulk upload |
| MobileTurkey | http://aur.archlinux.org |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | wait... I use my login from the forums? Or I need to register nwe one |
| MobileTurkey | no |
| MobileTurkey | register new one |
| MobileTurkey | kinda dumb |
| MobileTurkey | but whatever |
| l0ner | ok I registered |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | cool |
| MobileTurkey | now install burp |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: i disowned all trinity packages |
| l0ner | ok |
| MobileTurkey | :) |
| MobileTurkey | and hal |
| MobileTurkey | you'll probably have to manually adopt them |
| l0ner | ok, adopted everything i found |
| l0ner | I'll update them later |
| * l0ner flys a starship | |
| l0ner | now |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| MobileTurkey | :-) |
| MobileTurkey | gotta catch the train shit cya guys |
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| l0ner | cya |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 821 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=821 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Enabled users to manually resort Documents widget in Kate |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: ok, i have problem with burp |
| MutantTurkey | okay go |
| MutantTurkey | hit me |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | i do makepkg --source like written in burp man page |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| l0ner | and then burp [generated_tar.bz] |
| MutantTurkey | right? |
| MutantTurkey | whats the problem? |
| l0ner | and i get error about subnested dirs |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | exact error |
| l0ner | [AUR] Error - source tarball may not contain nested subdirectories. |
| MutantTurkey | like this?: burp lololol.src.bz |
| l0ner | yes |
| MutantTurkey | try a differen tarball |
| MutantTurkey | that one could be funky |
| l0ner | it's hal one |
| MutantTurkey | train is next stop |
| MutantTurkey | try another one |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | go in #archlinux |
| MutantTurkey | talk to falconindy |
| MutantTurkey | it's his project |
| MutantTurkey | okya? |
| MutantTurkey | my train is here |
| MutantTurkey | any problems email me |
| MutantTurkey | i won't get back till tomorrow |
| MutantTurkey | because it's friday nihgt |
| MutantTurkey | got plans |
| MutantTurkey | thanks :D |
| l0ner | see ya ;) |
| l0ner | oh, and I thought today was thu |
| l0ner | gaddamit... i lost 2 days somewhere... |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner|sleep_m0de: SUP |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
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| Manabu2 | (MutantTurkey): sup |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: finally, I have a list of 157 files :) |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: (out of 35488) |
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| MutantTurkey | good work |
| MutantTurkey | Manabu2: recording a buddy |
| Manabu2 | ? |
| MutantTurkey | recording a friend's music |
| Manabu2 | right |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 822 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=822 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tqca-tls: won't build with tqt3 |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com marked bug 306 as a duplicate of bug 392. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=306 normal, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Desktop Device Icon Arrangement |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=392 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Desktop Device Icon Placement |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 823 filed by yehjj@pchome.com.tw. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=823 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Fedora 16 qt3 installation conflicts qt4 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 824 filed by office@klepp.biz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=824 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDM cannot start other WMs despite TDE |
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| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 825 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=825 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail/Kontact issue with encrypted email |
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| MutantTurkey | woop woop |
| MutantTurkey | neo_:? |
| MutantTurkey | darn |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 826 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=826 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdewebdev: Incorrect tdewebdev.org URL throughout the source code |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 827 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=827 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Quanta Plus: Download Documentation option is broken |
| MutantTurkey | FRRRAAGGEEE |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 826 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=826 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, tdewebdev: Incorrect tdewebdev.org URL throughout the source code |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 828 filed by yehjj@pchome.com.tw. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=828 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Incorrect "test" evaluate condition in /opt/trinity/bin/startkde startup script |
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| MutantTurkey | sup doode |
| MutantTurkey | s |
| MutantTurkey | of the channel |
| l0ner|away | sup |
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| l0ner | I kinda working on PKGBUIDLs |
| l0ner | and trying to figure out what pam is... |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: sorry about not responding yesterday/earlier |
| l0ner | I was away or sleeping |
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| neo_ | MutantTurkey: You were looking for me? |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: how does the progress? |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: I have sent an e-mail to the developer's lit |
| neo_ | *list |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5162 |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: wassup? |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: ping |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: have you used arch back in the kde 3.5 days? |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I did |
| MutantTurkey | I just didn't use kde back then |
| l0ner | argh... |
| l0ner | 'm having some doubts with pam |
| l0ner | and trinity |
| MutantTurkey | :[ |
| MutantTurkey | talk to darrell |
| l0ner | I wanted to know how it was done in the past in official packages.. |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | look in the history/ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | I'll write mail to the maillist |
| MutantTurkey | it might be there somewhere |
| MutantTurkey | I suggest doing a lookup of really really old packages from 3.5 |
| l0ner | well, in the old PKGBUIDDs there is nothing |
| l0ner | i did |
| l0ner | and back then autotools automatically installed pam config files on "make install" |
| l0ner | ok, I sent mail to ML |
| l0ner | now i need to wait for response |
| l0ner | And now I'm going to sleep |
| l0ner | cya guys! |
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| tbottu | 10yehjj@pchome.com.tw changed the Status on bug 823 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=823 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Fedora 16 qt3 installation conflicts qt4 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 792 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=792 major, P5, ---, sh4dou, RESOLVED INVALID, qt3 FTBFS on odbc module |
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| crissi | hello |
| crissi | i found a problem with ubuntu repo... http://trinity.blackmag.net/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ is missing dists dir |
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| Z_God | kdcop doesn't work here on natty |
| Z_God | with version 3.5.13 |
| Z_God | does anyone recognize this problem? |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner|away: I saw a few comments on hal |
| l0ner|away | MutantTurkey: Me too |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: last one in fact is mine :P |
| MutantTurkey | oh I see |
| MutantTurkey | did it get resolved? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | for me it builds |
| l0ner | I tested it on a clean vm |
| l0ner | works perfectly fine |
| l0ner | Now I'm porting patches from kdemod3 to our pkgbuilds |
| MutantTurkey | you better check those patches are legit. |
| MutantTurkey | they might no longer be valid |
| l0ner | I'm checking manually of they apply |
| l0ner | and what they are doing |
| l0ner | even if some of them I don't understand |
| l0ner | oh, and I applied some of the patches from kdemod3 to qt3 pkgbuild |
| l0ner | those were pretty much old patches from kde and fedora/debian/gentoo |
| MutantTurkey | if you don't understand them. check it with me |
| MutantTurkey | ok? |
| MutantTurkey | and qt3 all those patches are moot i think. |
| l0ner | well, if you could check out ones i applied to qt3 |
| MutantTurkey | most patches got imported to Trinity |
| MutantTurkey | are those all old ones form the original qt3 tree? |
| MutantTurkey | i removed them for a reason |
| l0ner | what do you mean by original qt3 tree? |
| MutantTurkey | I am almost positive they were imported upstream |
| l0ner | the one from arch repo? |
| l0ner | well, I have run manual check, and if they applied and there were differences I pulled them |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | i though so at least |
| l0ner | if they have been imported upstream i'd get errors on reverse checks/already applied |
| MutantTurkey | ok. |
| MutantTurkey | whatever you say chief |
| MutantTurkey | then send those upstream to tim. |
| l0ner | now I'm doing the same with kdebase |
| MutantTurkey | all these patches, unless archlinux specific should be sent to trinity repositories |
| l0ner | after I finished kdebase I'll write one big mail with all of them to tim |
| l0ner | well, i try to keep arch-specific separate |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | if you're not sure you can run it past me |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | kaay ;) |
| l0ner | and I see some pathes that were applied only partially |
| l0ner | for kdebase |
| l0ner | I assume that those are arch specific |
| l0ner | and apply them anyway |
| MutantTurkey | any actual source changes? |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | okay then |
| l0ner | i get errors on failed hunks, compare manually, and correct or remove unnecessary hunks |
| l0ner | it's kinda hard and boring work |
| l0ner | but I can read c++ code, even if I cant write it |
| l0ner | so I manage |
| l0ner | now, time to try dual-monitor setup on arch |
| MutantTurkey | hehe krandrtray is your friend |
| MutantTurkey | also the monitor and display is your friend |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: fsck |
| l0ner | I accidentally... whole system |
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| MutantTurkey | whut |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: LOL |
| MutantTurkey | he's fscked |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I have problems with monitor configuration |
| MutantTurkey | lol yeah |
| MutantTurkey | it's not the best |
| MutantTurkey | krandrtray is good though |
| MutantTurkey | dude upgrading to oneiric i am so scared |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | freaking out |
| l0ner | but krandrtray don't allow me to expand my screen on 2 monitors |
| l0ner | and I need to do this |
| l0ner | since working on my tiny laptop's screen is PITA |
| MutantTurkey | why not? |
| MutantTurkey | what do you mean |
| MutantTurkey | just enable both with krandrtray |
| l0ner | and they clone |
| l0ner | I seee the same thing on both monitors |
| Shdwdrgn | hey folks |
| l0ner | y0 |
| MutantTurkey | y0 dudes |
| MutantTurkey | they clone? |
| MutantTurkey | darn |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I actually have that problem too |
| MutantTurkey | so I just disabled my laptop |
| MutantTurkey | (right now actually I'm doon it) |
| MutantTurkey | also I gave up on fcking the upgrade |
| MutantTurkey | to risk |
| l0ner | but i need to use both... |
| MutantTurkey | yeah huh |
| Shdwdrgn | got a weird one (again). Installed trinity on a laptop, then installed wicd. When I log into the desktop, wicd is throwing two icons in the tray, and I can't seem to find any place its being started other than /etc/xdg/autostart/ |
| l0ner | for me too |
| l0ner | Shdwdrgn: you are not alone on this |
| Shdwdrgn | well hell |
| l0ner | but i didn't try to fix it yet, since It's minor for me atm |
| Shdwdrgn | I know wicd-client.py is being run twice, and if you kill one it drops the extra icon... but I've no clue why its running twice |
| l0ner | I might kno |
| l0ner | w |
| l0ner | one is started by /etc/xdg/autostart |
| l0ner | and the other one by tdesession manager |
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| Shdwdrgn | hmm so where do I find tdesession manager? I tried removing the one from xdg and rebooting, but then I didn't get ANY icons for wicd |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: thank you for doing packaging |
| MutantTurkey | it is allowing me to focus fully on development |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: no prob man ;) |
| l0ner | Shdwdrgn: dunno |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: what was the question? |
| Shdwdrgn | haha |
| Shdwdrgn | wicd is launching twice, so we get two icons in the desktop tray |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: he have 2 wicd icons in tray |
| MutantTurkey | whut |
| l0ner | lol |
| Shdwdrgn | one copy is launched from /etc/xdg/autostart/ |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I actually have the same problem |
| Shdwdrgn | not sure where the second copy is being launched from |
| l0ner | and I think one i launched as part of trinity session |
| MutantTurkey | I SWEAR i had that problem too |
| MutantTurkey | i hate wicd too |
| MutantTurkey | but it's my wifi card that sucks |
| Shdwdrgn | really? |
| MutantTurkey | not wicd |
| MutantTurkey | so i hate it |
| MutantTurkey | nm-applet plays nicer |
| Shdwdrgn | wicd is the only thing I found that works reliably for roaming wifi |
| * l0ner hates everthing written in phyton | |
| MutantTurkey | I use wicd on every other device i have |
| MutantTurkey | but on my thinky it sucks |
| MutantTurkey | me too. |
| MutantTurkey | I hate python |
| MutantTurkey | hehe |
| l0ner | python is good for writing small yet advanced scripts |
| l0ner | for apps... it sucks hard |
| MutantTurkey | its not for apps thats the thing |
| MutantTurkey | it should never be |
| MutantTurkey | anyway I am going out for lunch |
| l0ner | ep |
| l0ner | *yep |
| l0ner | hf ;) |
| Shdwdrgn | I thought he was always 'out to lunch' :-) |
| l0ner | and I just had supper |
| l0ner | lol |
| Shdwdrgn | well to round things out, I just had breakfast :-) |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 792 from RESOLVED INVALID to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=792 major, P5, ---, sh4dou, PATCHAVAIL, qt3 FTBFS on odbc module against unixODBC |
| l0ner | uh... it seems my patch after all was accepted :D |
| Shdwdrgn | cool |
| l0ner | afk |
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| l0ner | ok, I managed to make my dual-screen setup work |
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| l0ner | I don't know why my laptop's screen is treaded as secondary, but it's not an issue atm |
| l0ner | now back to hacking |
| MutantTurkey | I have no idea |
| MutantTurkey | is the display config working |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: you can do it as primary/secondary using the "use this as my primary monitor" option |
| l0ner | I used xranrd |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | very good |
| l0ner | otherwise it wouldn't work |
| l0ner | besides I use xinerama |
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| MutantTurkey | woop |
| l0ner | woop |
| l0ner | wubwubwubwubwub |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: question about qt/tqt |
| MutantTurkey | yessir |
| MutantTurkey | wubwubweeeb |
| l0ner | qt SLOT and SIGNAL has become TQT_SLOT and TQT_SIGNAL? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | Q anything becomes TQ |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | i think i need to review the patches... |
| l0ner | 31 patches more |
| * l0ner sighs | |
| MutantTurkey | send them to me |
| MutantTurkey | all of them |
| MutantTurkey | ;p |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | but most of them are already upstream from what i see |
| l0ner | but I need to examine them manually, since conversion of Q* to TQ* is breaking patch |
| MutantTurkey | other ones that aren't should be reviewed and sent upstream. |
| MutantTurkey | use sed |
| MutantTurkey | replace all instances of Q with TQ |
| MutantTurkey | you'll be ok doing that |
| l0ner | http://gitorious.org/kdemod3/kdemod3/trees/master/kdebase you can see them here |
| l0ner | if you say so... |
| MutantTurkey | holy crap thats a lot |
| MutantTurkey | some seem legit and should go up stream |
| l0ner | maybe |
| l0ner | atm i'm on number 14 |
| l0ner | and this one seems to be already applied |
| MutantTurkey | maybe? I see a few that are good |
| l0ner | I'll see what remains and then will send them to tim |
| l0ner | did you look at qt3? |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | link? |
| l0ner | http://gitorious.org/kdemod3/kdemod3/trees/master/qt3-enhanced |
| l0ner | note that there are 2 tarballs with patches |
| l0ner | besides you can view what i applied from those by looking at our git |
| MutantTurkey | I swear they've all been previously applied |
| l0ner | not all of them |
| MutantTurkey | not sure though |
| MutantTurkey | are they all good patches though/ |
| l0ner | I know |
| MutantTurkey | are you inspecting them for quality? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | one by one |
| MutantTurkey | okay cool |
| l0ner | and they seem good |
| MutantTurkey | definitely send them upstream then |
| MutantTurkey | or at least check |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | it's up to tims decision if they go upstream |
| l0ner | could you check patch no. 15 from kdebase? |
| l0ner | I don't know about this one... |
| l0ner | It's making kdesu less verbal |
| MutantTurkey | http://hackles.org/cgi-bin/archives.pl?request=17 lol |
| MutantTurkey | okay i will |
| MutantTurkey | it's a old unix comic |
| MutantTurkey | from 2001 |
| MutantTurkey | halarious |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: yeah I don't get it at all |
| MutantTurkey | I'd need the context |
| MutantTurkey | but it doesn't do anything good |
| MutantTurkey | or bad |
| MutantTurkey | I say fck it |
| MutantTurkey | unless we are enhancing functionality or fixing bugs... |
| MutantTurkey | fck it |
| l0ner | ok |
| MutantTurkey | agreed? |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| l0ner | xinerama patch is too long to examine it fully... |
| l0ner | but it seems that it is upstream |
| MutantTurkey | whew :P |
| l0ner | err... one hunk of code applied |
| MutantTurkey | what was it? |
| l0ner | kwin/geometry.cpp |
| MutantTurkey | looking |
| MutantTurkey | did all of it apply? |
| l0ner | no, only one hunk |
| MutantTurkey | was the rest already applied? |
| l0ner | but i think it applied because some of patch was reverted later |
| l0ner | seems so |
| MutantTurkey | okay then that part of the patch isn't good probably |
| MutantTurkey | what hunk was it? |
| l0ner | Hunk #4 succeeded at 966 with fuzz 2 (offset 40 lines). |
| MutantTurkey | ok thank you |
| MutantTurkey | meh seems pretty useless |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | Ok, I found something that isn't upstream |
| MutantTurkey | what is it? |
| l0ner | 20-ksmserver theme support |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | seems legit, and it would be nice to have it |
| l0ner | and I have kcontrol applet to manage ksm themes |
| l0ner | whole thing should go upstream I think |
| MutantTurkey | ksmserver.... |
| l0ner | pretty much it is theme for your shutdown/logout dialog |
| MutantTurkey | to conform to what |
| MutantTurkey | the standard theming? |
| l0ner | for example |
| MutantTurkey | I undestand what it does, but what does it conform to? |
| l0ner | i remember kdemod3 using it and having the dialog look like win xp one |
| l0ner | or whathever the user want, you can choose it like the splash |
| MutantTurkey | how do you do it? |
| l0ner | you need this patch and additional module for kcontrol |
| l0ner | I have both |
| MutantTurkey | okay suggest it to the mailing list. |
| MutantTurkey | with pictures and patches |
| MutantTurkey | ok? |
| MutantTurkey | I'd run it by everyone first |
| l0ner | ok, for now I'll put it aside |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | we also need to create themes for it |
| MutantTurkey | at least for the basics. |
| MutantTurkey | like |
| MutantTurkey | for our few default dialogs |
| MutantTurkey | styles I mean |
| l0ner | as default we can use what we have atm |
| l0ner | and I think there should be something @ kde-look |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | plastic and redmond at least |
| l0ner | it changes the shutdown dialog to smthn like this: http://www.slax.org/modules/screenshots/3/3932_big.png |
| MutantTurkey | okay well suggest it to the devel list |
| MutantTurkey | i'll root for it |
| l0ner | kay |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
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| l0ner | I wonder... if I installed kde4 alongside trinity, what would happen |
| MutantTurkey | it would be ok |
| MutantTurkey | I think :p |
| l0ner | I see that guys form kdemod3 had some magic in their kdestart script, so it would start actually theirs kwin * others, instead of those form kde4 |
| l0ner | where are my vms? |
| l0ner | lets try :D |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|ZNC: good job sir on your internship |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno |
| MutantTurkey | I hate it |
| MutantTurkey | i hate kde4 |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| * l0ner too | |
| l0ner | but I nedd to try |
| l0ner | it's part of "provide quality packages" policy |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: And I'm left with 7 patches |
| l0ner | and I started with something like 30 |
| MutantTurkey | my machine still works! |
| MutantTurkey | oneiric upgrade hah |
| MutantTurkey | so afraid |
| l0ner | lol |
| MutantTurkey | but it worked |
| MutantTurkey | load a lot of good stff |
| MutantTurkey | got lost |
| l0ner | does oneiric have tentacles? |
| MutantTurkey | basically |
| l0ner | and I failed to install kde4 |
| l0ner | errors on conflicting files |
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| l0ner | damn, i needed to kill my X |
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| Vasistha | since I upgraded my OS from debian lenny to squeeze (and from kde 3.5.10 to trinity 3.5.13) there seems to be some sort of power management that is auto-adjusting my laptop screen brightness. I hate that! Any idea what might be doing it? |
| Vasistha | ...it progressively brightens the screen, and gets it out of sync with what tpb reports |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 829 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=829 trivial, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdelibs: DocBook templates are not part of the final tdelibs package |
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| MutantTurkey | ping ping ping |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=829 trivial, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, tdelibs: DocBook templates are not part of the final tdelibs package |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 694 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=694 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Branding: All Help/Handbook files still reference KDE |
| Shdwdrgn | MutantTurkey, do you know if l0ner ever found an answer to the double wicd icons? |
| MutantTurkey | no idea |
| MutantTurkey | i just confirmed it happens on my arch box |
| Shdwdrgn | hmm |
| Shdwdrgn | I still have lucid (with trinity) on my own laptop, and never had anything like this pop up |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| Shdwdrgn | although it also seems to be flaky about maintaining a connection now as well... makes me wonder if its a bad build of wicd |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | who knows |
| MutantTurkey | anyone running oneiric here? |
| Shdwdrgn | not on any of my machines - I'm holding at natty for now |
| MutantTurkey | i just upgraded it |
| MutantTurkey | DON'T DO IT |
| MutantTurkey | haha |
| MutantTurkey | it totally fscked up everything |
| MutantTurkey | hal broken, kpowersave broken, blah blah blah blah blha |
| MutantTurkey | uses like 50% more power |
| MutantTurkey | fucking 3.2 kernel is a joke. I don't understand how they let power regressions slip in |
| Shdwdrgn | so this is similar to going from intrepid to lucid... all the sudden you have kde4 and everything from your old desktop was deleted without any warning? :-) |
| MutantTurkey | basically |
| MutantTurkey | every ubuntu ugrade sucks |
| Shdwdrgn | they're up to 3.2 already? |
| MutantTurkey | im using beta builds |
| MutantTurkey | to try and get fixes early |
| MutantTurkey | using arch for so long, it blows my mind that anyone wouldn't be using the latest bleeding software |
| Shdwdrgn | I seriously considered switching to debian when I reloaded my desktop here a few weeks ago. I have to agree that ubuntu upgrades are all landmines |
| Shdwdrgn | I have three redundant server, all with automated daily backups. When I do-release-upgrade, I start with one of those to get an idea of what kind of hell I'm in for. |
| MutantTurkey | d\o debian |
| MutantTurkey | there is no reason not to |
| MutantTurkey | I only have ubuntu for trinity testing purposes |
| MutantTurkey | debian is by far less of a brain fuck |
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| Shdwdrgn | last one I saw said Feb 1st |
| Shdwdrgn | Followup: 2/3 PM EST? Or back such as 12 PM EST? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 830 filed by panamajo@arcor.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=830 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kontact crashes when trying to compose mail via "New Message" |
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| MutantTurkey | heyo |
| Strangelv | What time is the meeting tomorrow? |
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| Strangelv | oops. nm |
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| l0ner|away | MobileTurkey: hola amigo! |
| MobileTurkey | hola good sir |
| MobileTurkey | !seen kb9vqf |
| tbottu | MobileTurkey: kb9vqf was last seen in #trinity-desktop 11 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, 47 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <kb9vqf> bad design on KDE4's part unfortunately |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| l0ner|away | lol |
| MobileTurkey | l0l0l0l |
| l0ner|away | well... it's been a while since tim was seen on irc |
| MobileTurkey | i am taking a hack at bug 547 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=547 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, gtk-qt-engine does not support GTK3 |
| l0ner|away | have fun |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| MobileTurkey | It's not to bad |
| l0ner|away | make it steal the menubar from windows and put them on the macosx-like bar of kdesktop |
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| l0ner | why konversation keeps giving me my sleep nick? |
| MobileTurkey | CTRL+SHIFT+A |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: besides, it would be nice if the same thing could be made with qt4 apps |
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| l0ner | uh, this time it didnt |
| l0ner | well.. |
| MobileTurkey | l0ner: have facebook? |
| l0ner | yup |
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| l0ner | I'm known as Pawel loner Soltys |
| l0ner | you cant miss me |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| l0ner | anonymous avatar atm |
| MobileTurkey | lolok |
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| l0ner | mmm? |
| l0ner | no, don't ask about wicd |
| l0ner | didn't look at it |
| Shdwdrgn | I don't suppose you had any more thoughts on the icon issue with wicd? |
| Shdwdrgn | haha ok |
| l0ner | actaully wait. I'm going to start nested trinity session to check it |
| Shdwdrgn | ok I'll get this one fired back up too. I haven't been able to find any clues with grep yet |
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| l0ner | Shdwdrgn: no luck for me |
| Shdwdrgn | I think I found at least a temporary solution |
| Shdwdrgn | # mv /etc/xdg/autostart/wicd-tray.desktop ~/.kde/Autostart/ |
| l0ner | mhhh might work |
| l0ner | try it and send me final solution |
| MobileTurkey | what is in .kde? |
| Shdwdrgn | sorry... .kde3/ |
| Shdwdrgn | it worked after restarting xorg. I'm trying with a full reboot now |
| Shdwdrgn | only a single instance of wicd-client.py running after that, so it must be something about the way its being started from xdg that causes it to run twice. |
| MobileTurkey | IT SHOULD BE .TRINITY |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| Shdwdrgn | I didn't upgrade this laptop to 3.5.13 |
| MobileTurkey | oh |
| MobileTurkey | :-P |
| Shdwdrgn | sweet... full reboot, and still only a single instance of it running now |
| Shdwdrgn | she's not going to have mutiple user logins on her laptop anyway, so this is a suitable solution |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: tqtinterface translates the Q* instructions and objects into TQ*, right? |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: and TQt3 have this translation already included? |
| MobileTurkey | basically.... |
| MobileTurkey | sort of |
| l0ner | so if I use TQt3, i don't need to use tqtinterface anymore, right? |
| MobileTurkey | uh |
| MobileTurkey | ask tim >_> |
| l0ner | lol |
| MobileTurkey | i have no idea |
| MobileTurkey | i get the concept |
| l0ner | I will later |
| MobileTurkey | documenation is lackin |
| l0ner | anyway I'm going through the qt3 patches again |
| MobileTurkey | okay |
| MobileTurkey | how many go though? |
| MobileTurkey | (now is the time to make those changes because we are breaking Qtt3 ABI with the next release |
| l0ner | since some of those which i refused actually may apply if fixed a little... |
| l0ner | 7, accepted from distro-patch packet |
| l0ner | 26 to look at from kde tem |
| l0ner | *team |
| MobileTurkey | ? |
| MobileTurkey | links links link |
| l0ner | http://gitorious.org/kdemod3/kdemod3/trees/master/qt3-enhanced |
| l0ner | there are 2 taballs with patches -_- |
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| Shdwdrgn | l0ner, did you want a bug report with the wicd issue, or just a PM with what I did? |
| l0ner | fill a bug, even if it may be distro related |
| l0ner | it will be useful to others |
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| Shdwdrgn | bug coming in for you l0ner |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 831 filed by shdwdrgn@sourpuss.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=831 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Wicd creates two tray icons on login |
| l0ner | Shdwdrgn: good ;) Now mark it resolved FIXAVAIL and explain what you did |
| l0ner | and give it lover priority |
| Shdwdrgn | the fix is in the original bug |
| l0ner | Shdwdrgn: ok, so just mark it resolved ;) |
| l0ner | or wait, I'll do it ;) |
| Shdwdrgn | I've got 'fixed' but not 'fixavail' |
| Shdwdrgn | ok, I'll let you resolve it then ;-) |
| l0ner | Shdwdrgn: what's your mail?? I'll set you as asignee |
| Shdwdrgn | shdwdrgn@sourpuss.net |
| l0ner | thx |
| Shdwdrgn | we lost turkey again |
| Shdwdrgn | an interesting twist with my previous kwin issue... kwin is running just fine on this laptop I just loaded. Same install disc, same process up upgrading to natty, and kwin has been doing its duty just fine under both the original maverick and now natty. |
| Shdwdrgn | so apparently the issue isn't anything with my particular install disc version |
| Shdwdrgn | which has me even more confused |
| tbottu | 10sh4dou@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 831 from NEW to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=831 trivial, P1, ---, shdwdrgn, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, Wicd creates two tray icons on login |
| l0ner | Shdwdrgn: what was your problem? |
| Shdwdrgn | on both desktop computers I've installed to, kwin doesn't run when the desktop starts up. I had to add it to the Autostart folder. |
| l0ner | Strange |
| Shdwdrgn | now if the wicd folks could find a solution for not working with hidden ssid's in the newer code... |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 350 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=350 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Source tarball permissions are goofy |
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| MutantTurkey | what's up all? |
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| l0ner|away | issues with qt3 |
| l0ner|away | or rather with compilation |
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| MutantTurkey | what problems? |
| l0ner|sleeping | i screwd in pkgbuild |
| l0ner|sleeping | nothing serious |
| l0ner|sleeping | and i should be sleeping atm :P |
| l0ner|sleeping | but fsck sleep, who needs it? |
| l0ner|sleeping | I'm reading sora no otoshimono while compiling qt3 :P |
| MutantTurkey | oh lol |
| MutantTurkey | sleep is a waste of time |
| MutantTurkey | I don't read much >_< |
| MutantTurkey | eyes are bad pretty much |
| MutantTurkey | cant find my glasses |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner|sleeping: do you use kdm theming? |
| l0ner|sleeping | lol, i have always my glasses on |
| l0ner|sleeping | nope |
| l0ner|sleeping | I use the default one atm |
| l0ner|sleeping | but i want to change someday |
| l0ner|sleeping | since it sucks :P |
| l0ner|sleeping | oh, and I finally understood why I dont like the crystalsvg icons xD |
| l0ner|sleeping | they are too colorfull and cartoonish for me |
| MutantTurkey | how do you disable it |
| MutantTurkey | I don't understand |
| l0ner|sleeping | disable wut? |
| MutantTurkey | theming |
| MutantTurkey | isn't there a way to have it just act like a normal window? |
| l0ner|sleeping | I don't think you can |
| l0ner|sleeping | dunno, but I don't think so |
| l0ner|sleeping | never tried |
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| l0ner|sleeping | damn my cat is in heat... |
| l0ner|sleeping | and she's freaking out... |
| MutantTurkey | :x |
| l0ner|sleeping | the solution would be to let her out of house... but I dont want to have 12 new little cats... |
| l0ner|sleeping | 2 cats is enough for me... |
| MutantTurkey | I had 2 cats |
| MutantTurkey | now just a dog |
| MutantTurkey | sigh |
| * l0ner|sleeping hates dogs | |
| l0ner|sleeping | dunno why tho |
| l0ner|sleeping | i just can't stand them |
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| MutantTurkey | lol i hate my dog too |
| l0ner|sleeping | lol |
| Mephisto | Good evening gentlemen. Does anyone know what this font is: http://mylinuxramblings.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/screenshot_001.jpeg?w=600 |
| l0ner|sleeping | Terminus |
| Mephisto | ahhh |
| Mephisto | thanks. |
| Mephisto | can i use it for gnome-terminal? :) |
| l0ner|sleeping | Probably |
| l0ner|sleeping | yeah |
| Mephisto | ok, thanks :) |
| l0ner|sleeping | I'm using it for my terminals |
| l0ner|sleeping | and for my ttys |
| Mephisto | i like it too |
| Mephisto | ;) |
| l0ner|sleeping | Well, it's clean, is't small |
| Mephisto | it's classic :) |
| l0ner|sleeping | and it is the most used finxed-width font i've seen |
| MutantTurkey | terminus |
| MutantTurkey | is great |
| MutantTurkey | I love it |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | easy on the eyes |
| MutantTurkey | Mephisto: really it is. I am glad it's picking up in popularity |
| Mephisto | :) |
| MutantTurkey | wish more people followed suit |
| MutantTurkey | is that conky? |
| Mephisto | yep |
| Mephisto | but i don't have big need for conky... i just wanted to find that font to show to people and i remembered that conky uses it by default often. |
| l0ner|sleeping | it looks like the config I used some time ago |
| Mephisto | at least people tend to choose it for that. |
| MutantTurkey | I don't really need it anymore |
| MutantTurkey | i don't have any resource constraints on my i5 laptop with tons of ram lol |
| MutantTurkey | on my old boxes I use it a lot though |
| l0ner|sleeping | I like to know how much of my system resources I use |
| l0ner|sleeping | but I prefer having open terminal with htopp atm |
| l0ner|sleeping | but I need to find a solution to monitor my cpu temp... |
| l0ner|sleeping | i have nasty overheating problem |
| l0ner|sleeping | damn silverlight... |
| l0ner|sleeping | i hate it |
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| Mephisto | i installed it :) |
| Mephisto | BUT.... |
| Mephisto | i think you mistook that font with terminus. |
| Mephisto | let me show you my screen... |
| Mephisto | it looks slightly different. |
| Mephisto | it's cool though |
| Mephisto | http://89.28.122.14:8080/Screenshot.png |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | make it smaller and it will look like in the previous screenshot |
| Mephisto | nope. I did it actually :) Still not that thing. |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | size: 9 |
| Mephisto | i know |
| Mephisto | i did exactly that :) |
| Mephisto | still different a bit. |
| Mephisto | dots are different |
| Mephisto | that's how i can tell |
| Mephisto | but it's ok.. nevermind :) |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | ok |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | uh, you Opera user? |
| Mephisto | yes, why? |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | I AM NOT ALONE!! xD |
| Mephisto | hehe |
| Mephisto | well.. it has some glitches though. I've got used to it, cause at the beginning i used to have probs with antialiased fonts, and only opera saved me. Now all these probs are solved, but i'm still using it just by habit :) |
| Mephisto | it has probs with flash a bit. And also dmesg brings this: |
| * l0ner|h8|sleep actually hates opera | |
| Mephisto | :) |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | but I hate more other browsers, and konqueror have outdated render engine |
| Mephisto | me too :) I always hated it and loved Firefox/Iceweasel. But.. i still get to use it sometimes. |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | I liked firefox version 2.something |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | form 3+ it's shit |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | memory monster |
| Mephisto | Konqueror is a piece of unusable glitch actually.. i wouldn't even examine it.. |
| Mephisto | opera is memory monster too :) |
| Mephisto | not much smaller. |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | I know... but at leas don't givesm me feeling oh being heavy |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | what I don't understad about opera is why the fsck it uses BOTH qt4 and GTK+ |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | the only konqueror problem is actually a web render engine... it is outdated, and once we implement the webkit it will run just fine |
| Mephisto | it's just faster a bit.. |
| Mephisto | i mean opera |
| Mephisto | that's why it gives you such feeling |
| Mephisto | by the way.... still for this error.. hang on |
| Mephisto | [18121.680365] operapluginwrap[9099]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp 00007fff6a2c3e08 error 14 in operapluginwrapper-native[400000+3c000] |
| Mephisto | [18122.003934] operapluginwrap[9195]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp 00007fffa75415b8 error 14 in operapluginwrapper-native[400000+3c000] |
| Mephisto | [18122.052719] operapluginwrap[9211]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp 00007ffff6d74998 error 14 in operapluginwrapper-native[400000+3c000] |
| Mephisto | [18122.158164] operapluginwrap[9260]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp 00007fff4765b648 error 14 in operapluginwrapper-native[400000+3c000] |
| Mephisto | here it is. |
| Mephisto | that's very usual opera's prob. |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | it may be plugin fault, not operas |
| Mephisto | on youtube if to enlarge video screen and shrink it back it turns out white and you have to reload the page |
| Mephisto | well maybe, but other browsers don't bring that. |
| Mephisto | Chrome, Iceweasel... none of it. |
| Mephisto | it's only opera. |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | maybe other browsers have hack around it |
| Mephisto | perhaps.. |
| Mephisto | but opera has been like this for ages. I've tried even older versions down to 10.00... same shit. |
| Mephisto | they all leave the same. |
| Mephisto | by the way... xterm uses the font i wanted to find |
| Mephisto | you can run it and see |
| Mephisto | it's similar, but not exactly the same.. |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | so it's some x font |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | not terminus |
| Mephisto | yep. |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | and i don't ave xterm |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | xD |
| Mephisto | it's also cool. |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | nah, useless for me |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | i need something with copy/paste that works for me |
| Mephisto | nah, i don't mean xterm, i mean its font :) |
| Mephisto | i don't like xterm either. |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | oh, ok |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | and another mail to the ml sent |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | ok, now I'm really going to slee |
| l0ner|h8|sleep | cya guys ;) |
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| Mephisto | finally... |
| Mephisto | i found the name of the font |
| Mephisto | and i got the font too |
| Mephisto | it's MiscFixed. |
| Mephisto | if anyone's interested - can send the archive.. |
| Mephisto | http://talby.rcs.manchester.ac.uk/~rcs/_bits/gnome-terminal_and_misc-fixed-6x13 |
| Mephisto | BUT... there's one little prob.. that font is a bitmap font, so you can't use it for gnome or any other non-x terminal just like that. So you have to fiddle a bit.. |
| Mephisto | bitmap fonts should be enabled. |
| Mephisto | as it's shown in the link |
| Z_God | l0ner|sleep: you can't copy/paste from/to an xterm ? |
| Z_God | it works exactly the same as in any other program |
| Mephisto | the guy is gone... |
| Z_God | Mephisto: you sure it'll work with cyrillic? |
| Mephisto | i don't need to |
| Mephisto | it's only for the terminal |
| Mephisto | :) |
| Z_God | that often breaks with non latin characters |
| Z_God | you'll have files & folder with such characters |
| Mephisto | i know |
| Z_God | just use ls |
| Mephisto | but hopefully i'll never bother |
| Mephisto | in fact, currently my terminal doesn't support cyrillic stuff anyway. |
| Mephisto | it brings ????? |
| Mephisto | but probably because of the locale. |
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| Z_God | that's broken |
| Mephisto | let me check that. |
| Z_God | even with the lucid trinity live-cd such stuff works fine |
| Z_God | at least for russian |
| Z_God | konq & konsole display everything correctly |
| Piki | has anybody else had issues opening encrypted emails in kmail/kontact? |
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| Z_God | Piki: yes, it can be tricky to get it to work |
| Mephisto | ok, it's not locale. Maybe you're right. |
| Mephisto | in that case it makes no difference for me :) |
| Piki | Z_God: i don't mind tricky, i spend most of my time over-complicating my box anyway :-) |
| Mephisto | i just won't have no cyrillic folders or filenames. |
| Mephisto | i'll try ;) |
| MutantTurkey | babysitting SUCKS |
| Z_God | Piki: I can't give you the procedure unfortunately |
| MutantTurkey | especially my poopy little sister |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: hey piki |
| Z_God | but it took me a while to get it all working right |
| Mephisto | in mean case i can just use MC for example and rename it.. |
| Piki | i just need to be able to open my emails without having to restart xorg due to the passphrase box taking over |
| Z_God | which passphase box are you using? |
| Piki | hi MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | I saw the bug report at least |
| MutantTurkey | passphrase taking over huh |
| Z_God | there are like 3-4 different ones |
| Z_God | so try switch to another one |
| Piki | Z_God: it's either pinentry-qt or kgpg, it's the one that asks me for the passphrase for my gpg key |
| Z_God | there should be both a Qt3 and Q4 one |
| MutantTurkey | wait isn't there a meeting tomorrow? |
| Z_God | yeah, pinentry-qt |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: dude whats thr word with the meeing |
| Z_God | there are also over pinentry-* commands |
| Z_God | and there should be a way to switch the default one |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: could be, but I didn't see a definite time |
| Piki | it works fine for encrypting/siginging, but goes into an endless loop opening itself wehn i try to view an email |
| Piki | i can check which pinentry i have, i think debian has qt3 and qt4, i think i have just one of them |
| Z_God | Piki: yep, play with different versions & see |
| Z_God | it's probably not smth that can be fixed in trinity easily I guess |
| Piki | hmm, i have pinentry-curses and pinentry-qt (the description says it's the qt3 version) |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | I thought I had that version as well |
| Piki | Z_God: hopefully i don't have to switch :-) |
| Piki | i prefer to keep a clean system with which toolkit i'm using |
| Z_God | yeah I can imagine |
| Piki | shouldn't there be a way to have it use kgpg to ask for my pin? |
| Z_God | I'd rather have the qt3 version as well in trinity |
| Z_God | but if it's broken... |
| Piki | if it's broken, i have no choice |
| Mephisto | i've got my font :) |
| Z_God | maybe it would work if it'd be compiled again tqt3 instead of qt3 or smth like that |
| Piki | i just tend to prefer qt3 apps |
| Z_God | did anyone here try KDE 4.8 btw? |
| Mephisto | http://89.28.122.14:8080/Screenshot-1.png |
| Piki | wouldn't that require the qt3 version to be recoded to call tqt instead of qt3? |
| Z_God | compiled against tqt3 I guess |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: why would it need to be? |
| Z_God | I understand there are some scripts that are ran over the source code to change some types before compilation then |
| MutantTurkey | even with TQt3 for TDE, regular ol Qt3 apps can still be used. |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: aka s/Q/TQ |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: exactly |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | lots of mistkates slip in |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i thought the functions would have been renamed, even if they were essentially the same? |
| Z_God | I saw some code in subversion/git with that as well |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: yes renamed |
| MutantTurkey | QString to TQString |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| Z_God | but I suppose in the regular case it has to be done at compile-time |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: so that would mean that the source code would need to be rewritten to call QString instead of TQString, right? |
| Z_God | or it's maybe only needed for apps that use both qt3 and qt4 |
| Piki | err, TQString instead of QString :-) |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: for what applications? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: pinentry-qt3 |
| MutantTurkey | for ones inside trinity - yes. for random Qt3 apps no |
| MutantTurkey | you can continue using our version of Qt3 without the conversation |
| Z_God | ah ok |
| Piki | to compile it against tqt, wouldn't it need to be patched to use the tqt function names instead of the regular qt3 apps, if it were compiled against tqt? |
| MutantTurkey | you would compile it against Qt3.. |
| MutantTurkey | which will still exist |
| Z_God | I was hoping to try to compile KDE4's kwin against tqt soon & see how far it'd get |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| Mephisto | http://89.28.122.14:8080/Screenshot.png |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: Lol |
| Mephisto | now, this is better :) |
| MutantTurkey | try it |
| Z_God | no clue if that makes sense |
| MutantTurkey | where to begin |
| MutantTurkey | WHY |
| MutantTurkey | IS THE QUESTION |
| MutantTurkey | OH DEAR LORD WHY |
| Z_God | but I think if tqt could gain qt4 source compatibility |
| Z_God | we could easily update some apps |
| Piki | Z_God: TDE has it's own kwin :-) |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: twin is broken |
| MutantTurkey | WHATS WRONG WITH IT? |
| MutantTurkey | sorry for the caps |
| MutantTurkey | dump caps key |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| Z_God | its focus behaviour messes up |
| MutantTurkey | but really, what's wrong with it? |
| Piki | focus behavior? |
| MutantTurkey | I see 6 bugs currently open about kwin |
| MutantTurkey | please report more :-) |
| Z_God | and there are bugs in edge cases with the fd.org specs |
| MutantTurkey | fd is a spec not a standard |
| MutantTurkey | but agreed |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: can you point some out |
| Z_God | it should work according to fd specs |
| MutantTurkey | I am looking for a something to work on |
| Z_God | the wine test suite has errors on trinity due to kwin bugs |
| Z_God | they are all fixed in kwin4 |
| MutantTurkey | dude you gotta be more specific with me |
| MutantTurkey | "yeah the stuff isn't working and stuff it's all not complying with the 50 fd standards that exist |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| Z_God | go & fetch winetest |
| Mephisto | actually..... that's why i kinda gave up on TDE and just got onto gnome back.. it ain't perfect, but it's surely usable. |
| Z_God | run it in KDE4 & Trinity |
| Z_God | look at the differences |
| Z_God | there's what I can give you :P |
| MutantTurkey | hopefully we get patches in to allow other WM's |
| MutantTurkey | I prefer openbox :p |
| Z_God | yes, that would be good |
| Z_God | there are other qt3 WMs as well |
| Mephisto | openbox... fluxbox.... i like something tiny bit more spectacular :) |
| MutantTurkey | it's marked as bug 742 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=742 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Implement a option to use alternative Window Managers. |
| MutantTurkey | see |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| MutantTurkey | so someone just has 2 do it |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i thought it would already work with other WMs? i installed openbox the other day, and tdm gave the option to use openbox with tde |
| * MutantTurkey looks around | |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: whut. |
| Mephisto | Z_God, did you check my screen? :) |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: you can manually replace it |
| Z_God | Piki: special version of the startkde script? |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| Piki | no |
| Z_God | Mephisto: yes |
| MutantTurkey | how did you do it? |
| Mephisto | :) |
| MutantTurkey | openbox --replace? |
| Z_God | so does this font has all characters? |
| Piki | i clicked openbox by accident in synaptic |
| MutantTurkey | .... |
| Mephisto | nope. Niether does that one. |
| Mephisto | if you mean cyrillic. |
| MutantTurkey | whats synaptic? |
| Mephisto | you don't know what synaptic is? :) |
| Piki | next time i checked my session menu in tdm, the openbox+tde option was there |
| Mephisto | software manager for Debian/Ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: installing kwin4 gives me 172Mb of depends, NO THANKS! |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: erhm, a very popular gtk frontend for apt... |
| Mephisto | package manager |
| MutantTurkey | it's a joke isn't it? |
| MutantTurkey | I do recall now, the search functions are highly impared |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: that's why kwin4 compiled against trinity is interesting :) |
| MutantTurkey | actually the whole apt system just sucks >_> |
| MutantTurkey | pacman ftw @l0ner |
| MutantTurkey | why do I need pulse audio for kwin...? |
| Z_God | I guess you can add a no-recommends switch |
| Z_God | to avoid that |
| MutantTurkey | howso? |
| MutantTurkey | is the default to install all recommends? |
| MutantTurkey | that is a dumb default. |
| Piki | the options in pacman don't make sense to me, i could never draw a connection between the options in pacman and the functions they make it do |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: ? |
| Piki | i could never memorize them for that reason |
| Z_God | apt-get --no-install-recommends |
| MutantTurkey | I like it |
| MutantTurkey | only one command. |
| Piki | i like yum better than apt |
| MutantTurkey | rather than apt aptd apt-get apturl |
| MutantTurkey | apt-add-repository aptdcon apt-internal-solver apturl-gtk |
| MutantTurkey | apt-cache apt-extracttemplates apt-key |
| MutantTurkey | apt-cdrom apt-file apt-mark |
| MutantTurkey | apt-config apt-ftparchive apt-sortpkgs |
| Piki | only problem is, non of the distros i've used lately use yum |
| MutantTurkey | all those |
| Z_God | Piki: I hate yum because it's search output can't be grepped |
| MutantTurkey | pacmans can.... |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| Piki | Z_God: i've grepped it before |
| MutantTurkey | pacman is just sane |
| Z_God | Piki: then your yum was different ;) |
| MutantTurkey | hehe openbox works great with tde |
| Z_God | in my case, it put the descriptions over multiple lines |
| Piki | i use centos 5.5 on a server i manage, i've grep'ed yum's search before |
| MutantTurkey | just chceked |
| Z_God | good :) |
| MutantTurkey | now I just need the option to use it |
| Z_God | I don't know what binaries are exactly ran by trinity at startup |
| Z_God | also kdesktop & kicker I guess |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: moreover, how are they ran? |
| Z_God | a good GUI to enable, disable certain compontents would be good |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: startkde |
| MutantTurkey | okay I see it |
| Z_God | or now starttde maybe |
| MutantTurkey | got it |
| MutantTurkey | I'm looking at it |
| MutantTurkey | I wonder how I can check trinity variables though... |
| Z_God | check? |
| MutantTurkey | kcm may have a dcop interface? |
| Piki | http://arklinux.org/~pikidalto/images/yumsearch_grep.png |
| MutantTurkey | huh looking |
| Piki | it pulled out a description without an item on one of the lines, does that sometimes, but at least bearable :-) |
| Z_God | Piki: looks perfect, almost just like apt-cache search :) |
| Z_God | yeah it did that really often with me |
| Piki | yep |
| Z_God | and that's why it was unusable when I had to find things |
| Piki | that's one centos 5.5, and they've already released centos 6 |
| MutantTurkey | 6.2 |
| MutantTurkey | right? |
| Piki | yeah, i really need to talk to our head guy about updating centos |
| Piki | i don't have access to do that on my own |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: where are you working now? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: nowhere |
| MutantTurkey | who's your "head guy" |
| Piki | i'm looking for a job |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| Piki | bero, the guy who started Ark Linux |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | how is that going? |
| Piki | he's all the way over in switzerland, and i can't afford to travel :-) |
| MutantTurkey | doing what? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: he had to put development on hold to take care of his sick mother, he doesn't trust their internet connection :-( |
| Piki | and since i can't access his build server, i can't do anything to continue development |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: ? |
| MutantTurkey | that stinks |
| Piki | yeah |
| Z_God | but how is centos related to ark? |
| Z_God | I thought ark was another distro |
| Piki | i should've asked him for access to the build server by now |
| Piki | Z_God: it is |
| Piki | but ark isn't a server OS |
| MutantTurkey | is ark even a distro at this point? |
| Piki | centos is |
| * MutantTurkey knows nothing about it | |
| Z_God | I see |
| Piki | and the people donating our web space insist on a server distro |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: it is |
| Z_God | it looks kinda dead |
| MutantTurkey | :\ |
| Piki | it's just a distro with severely limited resources and a one-man development team |
| Z_God | with a last release called 2008 |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: sounds like trinity lol |
| Piki | Z_God: look at the mirror, the dockyard-devel iso is much more recent :-) |
| Piki | and look at arklinux.wordpress.com |
| Piki | and the front page of arklinux.org :-) |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: tde has more developers than ark, and can at least get a release out :-) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah but same problems |
| Z_God | I first check the alpha, but that was also 2 years old |
| Z_God | checked* |
| MutantTurkey | anyway.... how many devels does trinity really have? |
| Piki | the size of our development team hinders our release cycle |
| Piki | Z_God: not 2 years old |
| Piki | it's 1 year old |
| Z_God | the page said january 2010 |
| Piki | http://arklinux.osuosl.org/dockyard-devel/iso/ |
| MutantTurkey | what is dockyard? |
| Piki | Z_God: oh? i gotta check that then, it should say 2011 |
| Z_God | http://arklinux.org/?q=node/4199 |
| Piki | might've hit the wrong number |
| MutantTurkey | is that drupal? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: stable update branch |
| MutantTurkey | oh ok |
| Piki | doesn't receive any updates unless updates are necessary |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: yes, drupal it is :-) |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| MutantTurkey | what was I working on... |
| Z_God | date is indeed the same, so seems like a mistake indeed |
| MutantTurkey | GAH |
| MutantTurkey | can't remember |
| Z_God | but I hope to upgrade my ubuntu soon to 12.04 with trinity or maybe KDE 4.8 :P |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: what is winetest I can't find it |
| MutantTurkey | use arch, you'd have 4.8 by now |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: look at the bottom: http://test.winehq.org/ |
| Z_God | arch doesn't have LTS I guess though |
| MutantTurkey | what the f is LTS? |
| MutantTurkey | long term crap |
| Z_God | long term support |
| MutantTurkey | who needs that? |
| MutantTurkey | the support is current |
| Z_God | I do |
| MutantTurkey | as you are always running current version of archlinux, there is no need for long term suppor |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 830 as a duplicate of bug 132. |
| MutantTurkey | all support is current arch support |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=830 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Kontact crashes when trying to compose mail via "New Message" |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=132 critical, P4, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kmail composer crashes when closing (reproducible) |
| Z_God | when you manage more than 2-3 boxes you need LTS |
| Piki | yes, if the distro is megafrozen like ubuntu |
| Z_God | also centos makes sense because of that reason |
| Z_God | and I would consider it as well |
| Piki | arch is rolling release, so all you need to do is keep it up-to-date |
| Piki | to get current support |
| Piki | that could be done via cron job :-) |
| Piki | personally, i prefer a (mostly) megafrozen release cycle |
| Z_God | arch doesn't have a huge repository with binaries as far as I remember |
| Z_God | this is my main reason for debian/ubuntu |
| Piki | i thought arch did use binaries? i don't remember having to compile anything except tde |
| Z_God | I'm not patient enough to wait for compiling |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: I dunno winetest works for me |
| MutantTurkey | yes arch uses binaries |
| MutantTurkey | it has a large selection of packages |
| Piki | and that was because there were no official tde packages |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: you have to compare the results |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't had a crash in 4 years with my arch box, and everything is 100% upstream |
| MutantTurkey | i don't see the downside? |
| Z_God | if I remember it correctly, some user32 errors are generated because of twin bugs |
| MutantTurkey | no upgrade problems either |
| MutantTurkey | comparing results within testwine? |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | it's the interaction between wine & twin that causes these problems |
| Z_God | the bugs are at least fixed in kwin4 |
| Z_God | maybe some fixes could be backported |
| MutantTurkey | I wonder |
| MutantTurkey | it's probably an issue of finding the fix |
| Z_God | but considering the details of this code, I'd like to see source compatibility for qt4 and maybe even kde4 in trinity |
| Z_God | so we could compile some newer parts from kde4 against trinity |
| Z_God | that should relieve trinity from a lot of maintenance |
| Piki | i think i saw something on the wiki about why tqt4 wasn't completed |
| * Piki looks | |
| Z_God | that was actually compiling everything against qt4 |
| Z_God | it was kinda working but slow as far as I remember |
| Z_God | so getting newer apps compiled against the older faster qt, seems like a good idea to me |
| Z_God | but I'm not a qt dev |
| Piki | sites going slow... |
| Piki | i think it said something about it not being completed because major bugs in qt4 weren't being fixed |
| Z_God | yeah, it didn't work well |
| Piki | me neither |
| Z_God | as far as I remember |
| MutantTurkey | progress stalled |
| Z_God | but the kwin guy is interested in helping us out |
| Z_God | so that seems like a good starting point |
| MutantTurkey | the same kwin guy who has been blaspheming us from the start |
| MutantTurkey | that seems like the farthest starting point for me. |
| Z_God | sure |
| MutantTurkey | he wrote some very very mean things about trinity |
| Z_God | but his criticism was valid in many ways |
| MutantTurkey | and he is a very public figure |
| MutantTurkey | yes agreed |
| MutantTurkey | every time he says anything on the ML it is hostile and argumentative |
| Z_God | and things are being fixed on the trinity side |
| Z_God | to address it |
| MutantTurkey | yeah definitely |
| Z_God | trinity can only learn from his criticism |
| MutantTurkey | so my position is: sure Martin if you want to make kwin for trinity, great. otherwise we are limited enough we don't have time to devote to normalizing the bloated kwin4 |
| Z_God | he said they were working on removing deps |
| Z_God | so that seems only good |
| MutantTurkey | yeah... |
| Piki | if someone's being abusive on the mailing list, threaten to kick him off if he doesn't settle down, that's just normal moderation |
| MutantTurkey | 172Mb... |
| Piki | tde allowing abusive behavior on it's own site will only look bad |
| MutantTurkey | yeah well we can't offend him or else we offend all kde4 users. |
| MutantTurkey | whatever it's not even abusive |
| MutantTurkey | its just the tone |
| MutantTurkey | like another person we dealt with, it's always negative |
| Z_God | you can't expect too much from IT people |
| Z_God | you'll always deal with people that cannot easily express themselves properly |
| Piki | if it's just stating opinions, sure, there' |
| Piki | s nothing you can do about that |
| Z_God | it was a problem for trinity as well at first |
| Piki | but if someone's being offensive and getting non-devs upset, then something would need to be done |
| Z_God | I read all the mails he was just critical |
| Z_God | but still helpful |
| * Piki can't say what to do about him, he hasn't been on the mailing list lately or seen the mails or anything the guy said | |
| Z_God | and his bug numbers were probably a bit exaggerated, but it's likely that twin indeed has too many bugs to be easily fixable compared to going with kwin4 |
| Z_God | also, it's mostly the same code really |
| Z_God | just with different dependencies & more features |
| Z_God | Piki: we can only learn from him |
| MutantTurkey | he also basically acts as if we are total morons who are just making random changes to the code...l |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: that was because that's what it looked like from the outside |
| MutantTurkey | yeah... |
| Z_God | I questioned tim about this |
| MutantTurkey | not at all |
| Z_God | and then he explained things to me |
| MutantTurkey | like what? |
| Z_God | but there was no documentation whatsoever about this |
| MutantTurkey | I think he has purpose for everything he does... documentation could be better |
| * Piki is a total moron :-P | |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: but from his point of view, trinity had 1 developer |
| MutantTurkey | tim |
| Z_God | I asked him why he broke binary compatibility but was using version numbers that indicated binary compatibility was kept |
| MutantTurkey | after 2 years with no other devels, he doesn't care at all. |
| Z_God | it turned out to be a mistake, now it's fixed |
| MutantTurkey | so keeping nice commits logs would have been good |
| MutantTurkey | but like.... there was no need |
| MutantTurkey | no problem with large commits either |
| Z_God | yes, but it makes the code unmaintainable after a while |
| MutantTurkey | agreed |
| *** Piki has quit IRC | |
| Z_God | and this was a very valid criticism from martin |
| MutantTurkey | yah |
| Z_God | and without that blog post, maybe it wouldn't have been addressed |
| Z_God | so trinity is better off now |
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| MutantTurkey | yes |
| Z_God | the commit history is crucial for a project |
| Piki | gah, changing to a different pinentry didn't help :-( |
| MutantTurkey | I agree |
| MutantTurkey | and it's improved |
| Z_God | but also docs around it as well |
| MutantTurkey | documentation is a whole nother thing |
| Z_God | now I know why tim broke all binary compatibility |
| MutantTurkey | there is documentation |
| MutantTurkey | regarding some stuff |
| MutantTurkey | but it needs improvement as well |
| MutantTurkey | there are growing pains as a project expands from one person to many |
| MutantTurkey | that is my point |
| MutantTurkey | and nessecary chances are made to enable this. |
| MutantTurkey | I think next we need a code review board |
| MutantTurkey | what do you think of that? |
| MutantTurkey | and a branch for all experimental code |
| Z_God | I know that it's too easy now to get any patch in |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| Z_God | I think tim didn't read any of my patches |
| Z_God | but just committed them |
| MutantTurkey | what patches? |
| Z_God | that I sent in |
| MutantTurkey | and I am sure he read them... he rejected a few of mine |
| MutantTurkey | xD |
| MutantTurkey | links? |
| MutantTurkey | aka code review board |
| Z_God | I just mailed them to the mailing list |
| Z_God | they make the kmozilla kpart working again |
| Z_God | and it's ported to gtk2 |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| Z_God | not crucial |
| MutantTurkey | also, how do you use it |
| MutantTurkey | I WANNA KNOW |
| MutantTurkey | i cant figure out how |
| Z_God | you have it compiled? |
| MutantTurkey | it's installed |
| Z_God | there is a readme file |
| MutantTurkey | or do I need to manually compile it? |
| MutantTurkey | okay :)_ |
| Z_God | I don't know if there's a package now |
| MutantTurkey | there is for ubuntu |
| Z_God | once you have it all compiled & installed, you need to set two variables |
| Z_God | then you run konq, open a webpage |
| Z_God | and you can switch to kmozilla |
| Z_God | and have it use gecko to render the page inside konq |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| MutantTurkey | we should do it for gtkwebkit |
| MutantTurkey | it would be easy |
| MutantTurkey | I wrote my own gtkwebkit browser |
| Z_God | yes, I fixed the dcop c bindings stuff |
| Z_God | so it works again |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: what do you think about suggesting a code review board? |
| MutantTurkey | and a experimental and master branch? |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: I am afraid there will be few people interested |
| MutantTurkey | hmm |
| MutantTurkey | what do you suggest then? |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: two branches, I proposed |
| * Piki feels queasy thinking about using gtk renderer in a qt app | |
| Z_God | I have no idea would will work |
| MutantTurkey | where did you make that proposal? |
| Z_God | I proposed it when someone mailed he had backported some fixes |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: many project use it. |
| Z_God | I'd like to see a stable branch & a devel branch |
| MutantTurkey | yeah me too |
| Z_God | yes, but trinity lacks man-power |
| Z_God | and I have no clue who is really good at reviewing code (not me) |
| Z_God | maybe tim could do it, but I think right now, he just doesn't have time |
| MutantTurkey | I mean I just want "is this patch sane" |
| MutantTurkey | and make sure it works as intended |
| Z_God | that is a lot of work |
| MutantTurkey | Qt3 binary compat is breaking as well |
| Z_God | to tets |
| Z_God | test* |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: then martins suggestions are moot |
| MutantTurkey | if we don't have the project size to do such a thing, no point then |
| Z_God | dunno, but tim addressed most of his criticism |
| Z_God | imo |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: let me know if you have problems with getting kmozilla to work |
| Z_God | once you get it working, I think you could easily use the xparts infrastructure to port your browser into it |
| MutantTurkey | at least the branches I think I will suggest at the meetin |
| MutantTurkey | probably |
| MutantTurkey | does it use dcop to communicate? |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | your app is compiled against the dcop c bindings |
| MutantTurkey | I wish I coul;d just set it using a konqueror option |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | makes sense |
| Z_God | there were some marshalling bugs |
| Z_God | but I managed to fix that after debugging dcop |
| Z_God | those fixes are all in |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: YOOOO MEETING TOMORROW MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT |
| Piki | what happened to the guy who offered to backport qt-webkit to qt3? |
| MutantTurkey | right... he made one post and disappeared |
| Piki | gah |
| Piki | well, no time like the present for learning how to program :-) |
| Piki | it's not like i'm actually /doing/ anything in between runs on my job search :-) |
| Piki | i just hope my brain survives both qt and html at the same time, never got into advanced web design :-) |
| MutantTurkey | what sort of jobs are you looking for |
| MutantTurkey | are you part of PLUG? |
| Piki | anyone who will hire a guy who still has to finish his college education |
| Piki | ? |
| MutantTurkey | PA Linux User Group |
| Piki | no, never heard of it |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | you're a pittsburger right |
| Piki | the one i'm aware of is WPLUG |
| Z_God | there aren't many sysadmin jobs there? |
| MutantTurkey | and you breifly attended CCAC? |
| Piki | western pennsylvania linux user group |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: do you know ssweeny? |
| Piki | Z_God: pittsburgh's inhabitants are 50+ years :-) |
| Piki | so not many tech jobs, and the ones that do require a degree i don't have |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i would be attending ccac if i had a job :-) |
| MutantTurkey | philly is number 3 for tech growth in US |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| Z_God | Piki: then you can do freelancing :) |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: dude get on FAFSA |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: never heard of ssweeny? |
| Z_God | fix people PCs |
| Z_God | teach them how to use them, etc. |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: nevermind |
| Piki | Z_God: "microsoft is best 'cause we have to pay for it and linux is free" |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i did, they require that i'm registered for the military reserves |
| Z_God | Piki: I made a lot of money with setting up ubuntu & teaching people how to use it |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: as an adult male who is 18 years or older you are required by law to sign up for it. |
| MutantTurkey | end of discussion |
| MutantTurkey | agree with the draft or not thats that. |
| Piki | Z_God: people obviously think different where you are, people here think that paid products are always better |
| Z_God | that's why I need LTS as well ;) |
| MutantTurkey | nothing to do with fafsa |
| Z_God | I've got quite a few people running ubuntu that I have to support |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: nobody told me it was required |
| MutantTurkey | whattya mean |
| MutantTurkey | it is |
| Piki | and i'm certainly not getting called over to iraq >.< |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.sss.gov/default.htm |
| MutantTurkey | sign up |
| MutantTurkey | Almost all male U.S. citizens, and male aliens living in the U.S., who are 18 through 25, are required to register with Selective Service. It's important to know that even though he is registered, a man will not automatically be inducted into the military. In a crisis requiring a draft, men would be called in sequence determined by random lottery number and year of birth. Then, they would be examined for mental, |
| MutantTurkey | physical and moral fitness by the military before being deferred or exempted from military service or inducted into the Armed Forces. |
| Z_God | Piki: normally the case is: "the computer doesn't work", I come there to fix it, they do not even have a valid license, so either they'd buy one (and ask someone else to install it), or I give them ubuntu for free |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: when i applied to fafsa, they sent me a letter saying i had to register for the reserves |
| MutantTurkey | sure. |
| Z_God | I already get paid by the hour |
| Z_God | so it would be a very expensive fix if they really want paid software as well |
| Piki | Z_God: most people here would rather continue with their illegal licenses :-) |
| Z_God | Piki: did you actually try freelancing to fix computers? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i doubt they'd want me in the military, i'm severely out of shape, and i just couldn't handle all the yelling :-) |
| Z_God | most people, in my experience, do not even know what an OS is |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: exactly! |
| Z_God | also, once you use a system like ubuntu with trinity, it's kinda unavoidable that it's much better than ms windows |
| Piki | Z_God: i tried talking to all my friends and family, only one willingly offered to let me put linux on his computer (provided he can dual boot windows for the few games that wine won't run), everybody else refuses to even look at linux |
| MutantTurkey | you just gotta stop preaching it |
| MutantTurkey | when the ask answer |
| MutantTurkey | other than that, ignore them |
| MutantTurkey | if linux comes up sell it, but don't be annoying |
| MutantTurkey | I found that stragey works well |
| MutantTurkey | for me at least |
| Z_God | I used to fix windows as well |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: I really want right click on twin decoration -> send signal -> list of linux signals, sigabrt sigkill etc |
| Piki | Z_God: i had quite a bit of bad luck with ubuntu, it runs ok now (absouletely horrible back a year ago), still a bit laggy |
| Z_God | but I stopped doing that when it always came down to reinstalls |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: you finished high school or have a ged though right? |
| Z_God | later I told people I can give them ubuntu or they can go to someone else |
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| Piki | MutantTurkey: they won't listen whether i preach or not, they aren't remotely interested in computers, they just want paid stuff that everybody else uses |
| Z_God | and I explained they don't need anti-virus & other shut |
| Z_God | shit |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i've completed high school, partial college, just need a job |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
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| Z_God | I ask what software they need, and tell them I can set it all up |
| Piki | as for the military thing, i'll definitely need to confirm if it's really required, nobody ever told me about that |
| Z_God | many people I know run Ubuntu with Trinity now |
| Piki | and if it's the law, i should've been arrested, i've been over 18 for 6 years now :-) |
| Z_God | but yeah only offer it when someone has problems |
| Z_God | Piki: doesn't really make sense that all males would need to do smth when they are 18 |
| Piki | i've actually considered the whole freelancing thing, i've just been waiting for Ark to release since it's worked best for me than anything else |
| Z_God | over here, I got a letter automatically I think |
| Z_God | that I was put on a reserves list for the extreme case |
| Piki | problem is, the next release seems a long way off |
| Z_God | yeah you need smth that you also like to use yourself |
| Z_God | and that you regularly use yourself |
| Piki | Z_God: doesn't make any sense to me either, apparently i need to be in the reserves to apply for financial aid, even if i don't agree with the currently war effor |
| Piki | t |
| Piki | i doubt they'd want a guy like me though |
| Z_God | ah |
| Z_God | over here you cannot get financial aid when you're <30 |
| Z_God | you can get a loan for education instead ;) |
| Piki | i'm overweight, and i couldn't hold up to the physical and psycological abuse of the drill sargeants |
| Z_God | with the idea being that you can get a job once you finish the education |
| Piki | we can get financial aid and loans for college at pretty much any age |
| Z_God | and if you can't, they will drop the loan in the extreme case |
| Piki | problem is, they're both run by the same agency here |
| Piki | so they both require that i apply for the reserves |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | weird |
| Z_God | it doesn't make sense to apply for the reserves for a student loan imo |
| Piki | our reserves are supposed to be for if they need someone for the war effort |
| Piki | and drafts are for extreme cases when they run out of reserves |
| MutantTurkey | it's not gonna happen any time soon |
| MutantTurkey | and if it does |
| Piki | but i shouldn't need to be in the reserves at all |
| MutantTurkey | just feign crazyness |
| Piki | and they didn't make the reserves an option on my financial aid, it was required |
| MutantTurkey | why not look for some non-tech jobs? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: if it happens, i'm breaking half the bones in my body on purpose |
| Z_God | tech jobs are easier to get in general |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i am |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I suppose |
| Piki | i'm looking for ANYBODY who will hire |
| Piki | it's our stupid economy that's keeping me from getting hire |
| Piki | d |
| MutantTurkey | keep telling yourself that... |
| MutantTurkey | honestly i've landed 4 jobs since last summer |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| Z_God | I'm off to bed btw |
| MutantTurkey | It's all about the field |
| Z_God | have a good day there! |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: goodnight. i'm still looking into twin for ya |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: great, good luck with it! :) |
| MutantTurkey | trick is getting into the right job |
| Piki | i wish i could... i keep applying at every business i can get to, regardless of field, i've got a few interviews, but no offers |
| Z_God | good night! |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: :/ keep trying! |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: i plan to, 'cause if i don't succeed, i think my mother will drive me crazy long before college or the military :-/ |
| MutantTurkey | join the military |
| MutantTurkey | it's a great spot for techie |
| Piki | though provided her money holds up, she can pay for my education, but only if i can't find a job |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: NO!!!!!!!!! |
| Piki | i am not joining the military |
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| Piki | not until they find a REAL reason to go to war |
| MutantTurkey | who cares |
| MutantTurkey | use it to laucnh a tech career |
| Piki | i do |
| MutantTurkey | i hate the war machine, but you might as well use it |
| Piki | i have very strict standards that will not allow me to join the military |
| MutantTurkey | okayyy then |
| MutantTurkey | real life > personal standards |
| * Piki whistles | |
| * MutantTurkey crickets | |
| Piki | 677MB for qt-webkit O.O |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | back to trinity... |
| MutantTurkey | wait what? |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: yeah, i refuse to budge on certain standards, regardless of what anybody says, not worth arguing, so end of discussion... |
| Piki | http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/QtWebKitRelease22 |
| Piki | download the QtWebKit-2.2.0.tar.gz |
| Piki | i'm stuck on an 8GB flash drive, so i'm a bit limited on how much space i can use... |
| * Piki goes looking for his spare flash drive) | |
| neo_ | a good moment for me to ask whether there has been any reaction to my e-mail regarding broken png files :) |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: no responses |
| MutantTurkey | bump that baby! |
| MutantTurkey | or I suggest, just submit patches |
| MutantTurkey | that is the best way to get anything done |
| MutantTurkey | submit a bug, upload fixed files |
| neo_ | patches are a bit tricky as it's all about binary files |
| Piki | binary files are generated for source code, no? |
| Piki | so whatever's generating broken pngs would need fixed |
| Piki | (or rather, non-media binaries) |
| neo_ | Piki: The mentioned png files have not been automatically generated. They are static binary files residing in the git tree. The breakage occured at some point of time after manual creation. |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: just upload fixed versions |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| Piki | neo_: so either they got corrupted when commited to git, or were incorrectly saved by the program of whomever made them, whichever the case is where the troubleshooting starts |
| neo_ | Should I open one bug containing the whole list or should I split it? |
| MutantTurkey | they got broken by a batch of qt conversions |
| MutantTurkey | basically |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: whole list I say... |
| MutantTurkey | or if you'd like one for each component |
| MutantTurkey | tdebase etc |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: as in, when source code was modified? O.o |
| neo_ | one for each component sound reasonable |
| neo_ | *sounds |
| MutantTurkey | yes accidentally |
| MutantTurkey | Piki: using sed probably |
| Piki | sounds a bit dangerous modifying the source code of a binary image :-) |
| Piki | and a bit contradictory |
| MutantTurkey | yes. |
| MutantTurkey | it was an accident |
| MutantTurkey | this happens easily |
| MutantTurkey | especially when doing conversions of hundreds of tiles |
| MutantTurkey | mistakes slip in |
| * Piki would never do that to his images... >:-) | |
| Piki | lol |
| Piki | MutantTurkey: yeah, well hopefully it's a recoverable mistake |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | thats the point of version control systems... |
| Piki | anyways, it's time to rest my eyes and keyboard, i'll need them tomorrow |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 832 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=832 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, User Guide support |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 833 filed by walch.martin@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=833 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, some png files in non-core programs are broken |
| neo_ | Too tired for the other bug reports. I will get some sleep now. cu. |
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| MutantTurkey | good job |
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| * Strangelv either needs to get some progress towards an 11th hour presentation for the meeting or give up and head out the door soon so he can be back in time for the meeting. He's pretty much given up on accomplishing the former. | |
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| Baho | hello |
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| Baho | This thing working? |
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| baho | hello |
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| yan | Hi! Maybe it is a dummy question. I use Slackware 13.1. And I have just installed all the packages according to the installation instructions for 13.1. |
| yan | It works. |
| yan | But there's a trouble with i8n. Where could I get translation packages? |
| yan | I installed all *-3.5.13-i486-13.1_32_1.txz from the mirror. |
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| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | meeting at 12? |
| MutantTurkey | @ Xu_R |
| MutantTurkey | do we have a topic list? |
| * Strangelv doesn't even have a copy of the link to the etherpads. He should add that to a text file since his bookmarks are in such disarray that bookmarking anything is an act of futility | |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner:? |
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| Baho | can find the meeting room |
| MutantTurkey | it is #trinity-desktop-meeting |
| MutantTurkey | hey baho :) |
| MutantTurkey | how is your arch packaging going? |
| Baho | for trinity I am in a wait state as i have all the basics done, I am almost done with my scratch built distro base |
| Baho | I habe cli running from lvm |
| MutantTurkey | very good |
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| MutantTurkey | !seen kb9vqf |
| tbottu | MutantTurkey: kb9vqf was last seen in #trinity-desktop 11 weeks, 6 days, 10 hours, 51 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <kb9vqf> bad design on KDE4's part unfortunately |
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| MutantTurkey | GangGreene_: meeting in #trinity-desktop-meeting |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 834 filed by raevyn@linuxmail.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=834 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Saving files in a gtk application |
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| MutantTurkey | wish woodsman showed up |
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| * Strangelv : Rose/Miros says, "yeah, tell the tde people PrintScreen is essential" | |
| MutantTurkey | o/ |
| MutantTurkey | what? |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: where are you gettng this? |
| MutantTurkey | MikeD says, Rose says... |
| Strangelv | ASI MOO |
| Strangelv | It's my primary hangout for the past dozen years or so |
| MutantTurkey | asi moo? |
| Strangelv | The meeting and discussion server for the Moon Society |
| Strangelv | if you have a mud compatible client: moo.asi.org port 7777 |
| MutantTurkey | lol mud |
| MutantTurkey | so old school |
| MutantTurkey | Moon Society? |
| Strangelv | also works with telnet, sort of works with Konversation, plus there' a java web client off of a URL I'm too incoherent to properly look for that's off of http://moo.asi.org or the pge it redirects to |
| MutantTurkey | so how many of these people are tde users? |
| Strangelv | Probably just myself, Rose, and Mike. Possibly Chard |
| MutantTurkey | how come nobody hangs out in here? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't get it :[ |
| MutantTurkey | I like hanging out in here. everyone else should too :P |
| Strangelv | I often do, but forgot to log back in after running into a ratre system panic the other day |
| Strangelv | That's a kernel level wishlist: when you have a panic it needs to be visible. A Linux BSOD would be preferable to just having a spinning disk and no responsivensess if the user isn't in a console |
| MutantTurkey | I concur |
| Strangelv | That's how I knew it was a panic the second time. The first time I had sluggishness, gotc to a TTY faster, and saw the error messages that my swap disk was hiding |
| Strangelv | "The only ther situation I've ever had a panic that I know of was with a failed install |
| Strangelv | Anyway, this place is fair/ly specialized and is usuarlly on topic |
| Strangelv | "The fact that everything's recorded and on public display probably discourages some more... spontaneous discussion of other subjects |
| Strangelv | The ASI MOO regulars are a fairly small gorup of people but we've known each other for years. WE actually migrated from an IRC channel that the Artemis Society had been using, but there were too manry offs-topic visitors who were completely unable or unwilling to grasp the topic matter of space development. Pair Networks didn't allow IRC servers, so LambdaMoo was selected as a replacement. |
| MutantTurkey | LambdaMoo |
| MutantTurkey | it's just funny |
| Strangelv | "Now you know why I start a lot of litnes in here with double quotes or 2-3 colons |
| Strangelv | "Mike and Rose are both on. You'd get more from them talking to themt directly. I'm far more asleep than awake right now and need to stop pretending I'm awake |
| MutantTurkey | goodnight |
| MutantTurkey | then |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: how should i refer to you? |
| Strangelv | "Strangelv or James will work equally well |
| Strangelv | "For that matter, some varians wark almost as well. I got pegged as Dr Strangelove in an office I worked at in 1993 for my less than optimistic geopolitical predictions |
| Strangelv | "Sometimes they called me Strange Man or Dr Strange Glove, et c. |
| Strangelv | "It got shortened to Strangelv due to IRC's original 9 character limit on names |
| Strangelv | Then I ended up interacting with too many real doctorates |
| * Strangelv just has a wimpy bachelor's -- not even the masters he was wanting | |
| Strangelv | You could have stayed a little longer in the MOO. They were still talking to you when you disappeared. 8) |
| Strangelv | :: is getting ATA errors but has so far not had another panic |
| Strangelv | Need a faster solution for swapoff. ATA errors have stopped, so it's hopefulyl not going to panic in the 30 minutes or 3 hours its fgoing ot need to unwind swap |
| Strangelv | "I'd believed that it was taking that long because of the drive, but the drive right now is a fast SSD... |
| MutantTurkey | i don't have anything. |
| MutantTurkey | sorry I am to busy to be distracted :[ |
| MutantTurkey | this is enought for me |
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| MutantTurkey | wubwub |
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| MutantTurkey | woop |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 835 filed by walch.martin@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=835 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, optionsdialog_main_window_2.png in nl version of kfilereplace's handbook is broken |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 836 filed by walch.martin@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=836 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, verb-query-dlg.png in de version of kvoctrain's handbook is broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 837 filed by walch.martin@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=837 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, some png files in tdebindings are broken |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 838 filed by walch.martin@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=838 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, some png files in some libraries are broken |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 839 filed by walch.martin@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=839 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, some graphic files in python-tqt and tqscintilla are broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 840 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=840 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, OnlyShowIn=KDE |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 841 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=841 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KControl: KDE -> TDE Branding Issues |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 842 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=842 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KTips: Fix branding issues and obsolete web addresses |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 842 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 843 filed by sh4dou@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=843 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Tools provided by Qt3 conflict with ones form Qt4 |
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| * l0ner|away is away: Gone away for now | |
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| l0ner|away | MutantTurkey: y0 man! |
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| * l0ner is back. | |
| MutantTurkey | yo dude |
| MutantTurkey | sad you missssssed the meeting |
| l0ner | I know |
| l0ner | but I didn't had the electricity yesterday |
| l0ner | tbh I don't have it even now |
| l0ner | I'm at my neighbours place |
| l0ner | I installed Bugzilla! |
| MutantTurkey | for what? |
| l0ner | TDE |
| MutantTurkey | we have bugzilla? |
| l0ner | *Deskzilla |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | doesn't it rock? |
| l0ner | lol xD |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | it's all about custom queries |
| l0ner | and I'm having strange errors on applying my patches to the qt3... |
| l0ner | I need still to look closely at it, but from what I've seen up until now it's nice piece of software |
| l0ner | shame it's in java... :( |
| MutantTurkey | I know right. |
| MutantTurkey | it's still works great |
| l0ner | damn... why on my x86_64 bit arch the patches apply and on i686 vm they don't? |
| MutantTurkey | dunnot hats strange |
| l0ner | wait I know... it's all about the sequence the patches are applied it |
| MutantTurkey | makes sense |
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| l0ner_ | damn power faults |
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| MutantTurkey | damn |
| l0ner | makepkg -s -c -i --noconfirm |
| MutantTurkey | something like tat. |
| MutantTurkey | that looks about right |
| l0ner | uh... |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| l0ner | wait.. |
| l0ner | bad window. |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | I thought I was typing it in my vm xD |
| MutantTurkey | lololol |
| l0ner | and I wondered... why it doesn't start? |
| l0ner | ok, now to configure KMail |
| l0ner | i hate GMail webinterface.. |
| MutantTurkey | it FUCKING sucks |
| MutantTurkey | I hate it too |
| MutantTurkey | i haven't configured kmail though |
| * l0ner hates webmain generally | |
| l0ner | *webmail |
| MutantTurkey | i like opera's mail actually |
| MutantTurkey | i dont use opera though |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | i use opera xD |
| MutantTurkey | I use my own browser |
| l0ner | but i prefer to use dedicated mail client |
| l0ner | i know |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| l0ner | now... was my gmail pop3 or imap? |
| MutantTurkey | imap |
| l0ner | you can have both, and I don't remember which one I activated |
| l0ner | "Unknown host: smtp.gmail.com" |
| l0ner | lol? |
| MutantTurkey | yeah same here :/ |
| MutantTurkey | cant get imap to confiure |
| l0ner | should be port 993 and SSL connection |
| l0ner | imap works, |
| l0ner | for me |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | whatever I don't care so muc |
| MutantTurkey | much' |
| l0ner | I care |
| l0ner | god... why there are people who are so stupid... |
| l0ner | i just had discussion with my neighbour about ACTA |
| l0ner | and obviously he don't even know what it ts |
| l0ner | but he wants it bad |
| l0ner | damn... |
| MutantTurkey | people are fools |
| l0ner | damn... i think my commmit descriptions are like spaghetti sometimes... |
| MutantTurkey | try and be specific |
| l0ner | I try, I even create a changelog file in which I write what I did point by point |
| l0ner | but somethimes i get feeling they are... strange |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 844 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=844 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kopete: Add preference for auto-connection |
| l0ner | oh, now I understood the logic behind the trinity application categorization! |
| MutantTurkey | need to close bugsss >_> |
| MutantTurkey | can't find any I want to work on |
| l0ner | lol |
| * l0ner can't find any he could work on | |
| l0ner | oh, and BTW, how was the meeting? |
| l0ner | decisions? |
| l0ner | i'm too lazy to read the log (lol) |
| MutantTurkey | good |
| MutantTurkey | read the log |
| MutantTurkey | it was mostly just good to catch up with tim |
| MutantTurkey | BUGS BUGS BUGS |
| MutantTurkey | Is the goal |
| MutantTurkey | my personal goal for R14 is to have Archlinux done |
| l0ner | ok |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | and I'm the one who is working on this :P |
| l0ner | well... the PKGBUILDs are mostly done |
| l0ner | now it's just polising them and splitting |
| l0ner | and maiking them for some apps |
| l0ner | *making |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: pick a bug for me to fix |
| MutantTurkey | one that you are bothered by |
| l0ner | kay |
| l0ner | wait a moment |
| l0ner | need to start deskzilla |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: xine-artsplugin from kdemultimedia is broken with new xine. xine api has been updated, so it is impossible to compile it atm and if my patch i sapplied it either crashes artsd or produces constant hi-freq sound |
| l0ner | :P |
| MutantTurkey | okay cool |
| MutantTurkey | xineartsplugin |
| MutantTurkey | the new api changed |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | let me see |
| l0ner | :D |
| l0ner | ;) |
| MutantTurkey | you patch must suck then? |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| l0ner | look at patch i commited to the tde-packaging |
| l0ner | yep, pretty much |
| l0ner | it enables compilation, not the correct functionality |
| l0ner | maybe it's only partial |
| MutantTurkey | high pitched frequency might not be related however |
| MutantTurkey | could be alsa |
| MutantTurkey | that happens for me |
| l0ner | yeah, but I've run arts in debug log mode in terminal |
| l0ner | and it complained about ao_something in xine-artsplugin |
| l0ner | and then started the sound |
| l0ner | and I recall this ao_smthning is from xine |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to look into it |
| MutantTurkey | is that automake only? |
| l0ner | atm yes |
| l0ner | but I thought about porting it to CMake after i finished website |
| MutantTurkey | long list eh? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 845 filed by sh4dou@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=845 major, P5, ---, mutantturkey, NEW, xine-artsplugin FTBFS with newer xine API |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I filled bug report about xine-artsplugin, attached my patch |
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| MutantTurkey | okay cool |
| MutantTurkey | I can't even get it to build |
| l0ner | you have patch there to enable build |
| MutantTurkey | no i cant get it to configure |
| MutantTurkey | properly |
| l0ner | lol |
| MutantTurkey | fk |
| MutantTurkey | are you using git? |
| l0ner | look how I done in pkgbuild |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | everything is commited |
| MutantTurkey | checking it out now |
| MutantTurkey | are you up to date on the AUR aswell? |
| l0ner | nope |
| l0ner | xD |
| MutantTurkey | dude just generate packages |
| l0ner | I'm updating now |
| MutantTurkey | then move to the top folder |
| MutantTurkey | and go |
| MutantTurkey | burp $(find *.src.gz) or whatever the file name is |
| MutantTurkey | it will upload them all |
| l0ner | i know, I'm ding it now |
| MutantTurkey | or $(find | grep src.gz) |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I have an idea |
| l0ner | hmm? |
| MutantTurkey | make a tde-meta-all package, that depends on every single other package |
| MutantTurkey | and tde-meta-base |
| MutantTurkey | comprendo? |
| l0ner | I wanted to do this xD |
| MutantTurkey | :D |
| l0ner | after splitting |
| l0ner | I'll do those like those for kde |
| l0ner | It's a nice idea |
| MutantTurkey | you probably also put them in the x11 category |
| MutantTurkey | andvote for all of them |
| l0ner | yeeeah! |
| MutantTurkey | votes = get into the real repos |
| MutantTurkey | thats how it works |
| l0ner | i know |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | also are kdevelop and kdewebdev working? |
| l0ner | they shoud be |
| l0ner | at leas they build |
| l0ner | *least |
| MutantTurkey | they are flagged out of date |
| l0ner | i see... I'll look at them |
| l0ner | first I need to build whole base trinity on my vm |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | you rock! |
| l0ner | thx :) |
| MutantTurkey | still a no go darnit :[ |
| MutantTurkey | dumbxine |
| l0ner | yeah |
| l0ner | and it comes from arts structure |
| MutantTurkey | well arts sucks too |
| l0ner | yeah |
| l0ner | I'd like to replace it at some point |
| * l0ner repeates it atg leas once a day | |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | me too |
| l0ner | I even have idea on how to do it... but I don't have skill |
| l0ner | maybe I'll write one day something about it |
| MutantTurkey | soo bored |
| l0ner | work! |
| l0ner | :P |
| MutantTurkey | i am in polisci clas |
| MutantTurkey | political science class |
| l0ner | wut? |
| l0ner | D: |
| l0ner | why do you need it? |
| MutantTurkey | it's a requiredment for my major |
| l0ner | shit |
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| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
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| l0ner | damn laptop overheated... |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: added a log from artsd for you |
| l0ner | complaining about xine |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
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| DexterF | hey ho |
| DexterF | my.. signature key expired and I have no clue how to fix it with kgpg |
| DexterF | pointers? |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | kgpg huh |
| MutantTurkey | if it's expired aren't you supposed to generate a new one? |
| MutantTurkey | or am I just crazy |
| MutantTurkey | I think so :-p |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 808 as a duplicate of bug 725. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=808 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, SUDO removal problem during install |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=725 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, sudo-trinity conflicts with sudo |
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| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: Shdwdrgn: Shdwdrgn: somebody! |
| MobileTurkey | I need some quick statistics regarding the kwin process |
| MobileTurkey | anyone around? |
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| Shdwdrgn | yes! |
| Shdwdrgn | no |
| Shdwdrgn | too late :-) |
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| abraxxl | hi! I installed trinity under squeeze, that kcontrol and the konqueror settings menu is empty? searching the web wasn't helpful. there was an similar issue for mandriva, but that did not help. |
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| strowi | hi |
| strowi | anyone here that can help me fix the ALT+F2 command in trinity? |
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| abraxxl | strowi: tell me/us what is broken |
| abraxxl | what did you do, what do you expect |
| strowi | abraxxl: well.. i can run graphical stuff like firefox,meld,thunar, but no 'urxvt' or similar .. |
| strowi | 'Could not run the specified command.' |
| neo_ | Just to make sure: does it work from within Konsole? |
| strowi | yes from konsole it works |
| strowi | and it can't be a path issue because both are in the same directory. |
| strowi | could i be missing a module ` |
| strowi | ? |
| abraxxl | du you adjust the PATH in .bashrc oder .profile or whatever shell init files your shell needs? |
| abraxxl | depending on your distribution start_kde/trinity does not read that files during xsesssion startup |
| abraxxl | but these files are sourced when beeing in a konsole |
| strowi | good point.. removing zsh-configuration, the only PATH-modification is in /etc/profile* |
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| abraxxl | strowi: you migth consider a look/tail -f at the .xsession-errors when you have such errors |
| MutantTurkey | .xsession-errors is my personal hell |
| MutantTurkey | how can I get applications to stop writing to it? it just eats away at my laptop battery because the harddisk will never spin down. |
| MutantTurkey | I wonder if a symlink to /dev/null would work? |
| strowi | abraxxl: i did look in .xsession-errors not a single error. |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: a symlink to /dev/null should work afaik |
| strowi | abraxxl: ahh found it! in startkde there was a type while setting the path... |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: also, not sure if this exists in trinity. KDE4 has this settings application kdebugdialog… |
| strowi | abraxxl: but.. firefox and urxvt are both in /usr/bin so why does firefox run and urxvt not? |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: it's all X11 apps for me |
| MutantTurkey | I tried out KDE4 yesterday |
| MutantTurkey | since a long time. It is definitely much more polished |
| MutantTurkey | though very bloated on my memory |
| MutantTurkey | it was using several hundred megabytes of memory more than TDE |
| MutantTurkey | not to mention Akonadi and Nepomuk were chugging at my CPU |
| MutantTurkey | the effects are also nice |
| MutantTurkey | but meh |
| MutantTurkey | here I am back to work, using my good old KDE3.5 settings ;) |
| neo_ | I am using KDE 4 as primary desktop since 4.2.something. Was a long road of fixing things. |
| MutantTurkey | honestly I do like a lot of what they did |
| MutantTurkey | but the configuration system is way to complicated. I can't find any of the options. it's all so deeply buried. |
| MutantTurkey | Konqueror uses KHTML still which sucks hard |
| MutantTurkey | so many other problems I ran into |
| MutantTurkey | just being able to use a regular desktop |
| neo_ | I do not like nepomuk. Big parts of it are deactived. |
| MutantTurkey | my panel is almost like my kde3.5 panel |
| MutantTurkey | but it is just..... |
| neo_ | *deactivated |
| MutantTurkey | doesn't look right |
| MutantTurkey | neo_: yeah I deactivated it all |
| MutantTurkey | and activities? I don't need that. |
| MutantTurkey | I basically spend 2 hours disabling everything |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| neo_ | KHTML is hardly maintained :( |
| neo_ | I saw two developers fixing lots of bugs in KHTML three or four months ago. |
| MutantTurkey | but I don't understand why they would |
| MutantTurkey | it's ridiculous |
| MutantTurkey | just use webkit |
| MutantTurkey | it's faster, has a larger team |
| MutantTurkey | it is a good contiuation |
| MutantTurkey | embeds nicely with webkitqt. |
| MutantTurkey | i don't see the downside |
| MutantTurkey | also. DOLPHIN SUCKS. |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| neo_ | strowi: Have you verified the locations of firefox and urxvt with which? |
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| Strangelv | "What are the differences between KHTML and its descendant, WebKit? |
| MutantTurkey | KHTML is basically wayyy behind |
| MutantTurkey | WebKit is one of thelargest open source backend out there today |
| Strangelv | What else? Size? Memory usage? dependancies? |
| MutantTurkey | and it doesn't suck |
| MutantTurkey | it depends on Qt and some other libs |
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| MutantTurkey | if you use the Qt wrapper for it |
| MutantTurkey | it's superior in all ways. |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | it actually renders modern things |
| Strangelv | What's stopping us from using it as a drop-in replacement? |
| MutantTurkey | chrome uses it, safari uses it, epiphany |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: Qt4 |
| MutantTurkey | though that is the eventual plan |
| neo_ | btw: it should be easy to switch between KHTML and WebKit |
| Strangelv | aha! That's what I was wanting to know |
| MutantTurkey | once TQt3 works basically |
| MutantTurkey | it will be easy. |
| MutantTurkey | soon |
| MutantTurkey | according to tim |
| MutantTurkey | I am guessing R15 will see that. |
| abraxxl | as here is more trafffic: any ideas about this issue? "I installed trinity under squeeze, that kcontrol and the konqueror settings menu is empty? searching the web wasn't helpful. |
| abraxxl | there was an similar issue for mandriva, but that did not help. |
| Strangelv | So we'll be able to use TQt to use things with Qt4 dependancies without Qt4 for a backend? |
| Strangelv | ...or are we simply going to assume that the user has a system strong enough torun both? |
| Strangelv | ...Or is there a permutation I'm not thinking of? |
| neo_ | There is a setting "Default web browser engine" in the configuration dialog of Konqueror. You should be able to switch between the rendering engines there. |
| neo_ | (for clarification: this only applies to KDE4) |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: your system is strong enough to run both |
| MutantTurkey | it will only be using Qt4 to draw the browser kpart |
| Strangelv | My system is strong enough to do all sorts of crazy things -- like run four web browsers at the same time when each wants mocre than a GB |
| MutantTurkey | TQt will allow use to also use Qt4 in our applications |
| neo_ | abraxxl: maybe you get helpful information when running konqueror from konsole? |
| Strangelv | Actually I can't do as much with it right now until I solve the problem with my swap drive playing peekaboo |
| Strangelv | I have swap completely turned off right now |
| Strangelv | It's amazingly easy to hit a 16 GB ceiling |
| neo_ | MutantTurkey: you can probably set .xsession-errors path in kdmrc |
| neo_ | ClientLogFile=/dev/null or similar |
| abraxxl | neo_: not really :( |
| neo_ | abraxxl: are the kcontrol modules sane? (something like /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kcm*) |
| neo_ | especially are kcm_konq.so and kcm_konqhtml.so ok? |
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| MutantTurkey | neo_: I tried hat. |
| MutantTurkey | it's now not KDE applications but gtk ones as well |
| MutantTurkey | because they don't follow that |
| MutantTurkey | ya know? |
| neo_ | Sorry, I thought ClientLogFile=… was catching everything that goes to .xsession-errors |
| MutantTurkey | that is what I assumed as well |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: I understand TQt working properly together with Qt4 is an R14 goal already |
| MutantTurkey | yes it is |
| MutantTurkey | it is a goal |
| MutantTurkey | afaik from the meeting |
| MutantTurkey | but with QtWebkit embedding, that could take time to implement, though I think it is a high priority |
| Z_God | and from a good source, I know that KHTML is not so much behind, it's actually mainly the Javascript engine (KJS?) that's causing most problems now |
| Z_God | yes, that's true, I guess that will take longer |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: our version is far behind though |
| MutantTurkey | no? |
| MutantTurkey | our Konqueror actually renders everything OK too. it passes ACID3 |
| MutantTurkey | it's just terribly slow |
| Z_God | yes it is |
| Z_God | but the biggest issues with sites are caused by KJS |
| Z_God | not by KHTML |
| MutantTurkey | can we use another rendering engine |
| MutantTurkey | we might as well just go to webkit anyway |
| MutantTurkey | the more maintainence we offload the better |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | that's also why kmozilla seemed interesting |
| Z_God | because you can completely upgrade mozilla independantly |
| MutantTurkey | i am about to implement my own gtkwebkit with the xparts backend |
| MutantTurkey | I just don't have time this day |
| MutantTurkey | probably tomorrow |
| Z_God | ok |
| MutantTurkey | I already have a gtkwebit it wrote |
| MutantTurkey | i wrote |
| Z_God | I will not be online tomorrow |
| MutantTurkey | It just needs dcop porting |
| MutantTurkey | basically |
| MutantTurkey | afaik |
| MutantTurkey | http://github.com/mutantturkey/sb/ |
| MutantTurkey | seems like a good project |
| Z_God | but after the weekend I will be on |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| Z_God | I know the code at least a bit |
| MutantTurkey | I am pretty backed up on real work and my band and i need to do laundry so I might not get any time till nxt week |
| MutantTurkey | ok good |
| Z_God | but it seems that some code that is missing from kmozilla as well now need to be written |
| Z_God | and could probably be shared |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| Z_God | controling the back&forward history is missing for example |
| MutantTurkey | really? |
| MutantTurkey | wow |
| MutantTurkey | is it all done via dcop? |
| Z_God | yep |
| Z_God | *everything* goes over dcop |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| Z_God | but it needs to be implemented on both sides |
| MutantTurkey | thats easy then |
| MutantTurkey | I can do that though |
| Z_God | and the C++ side still misses that part as well |
| MutantTurkey | i can probably do it |
| Z_God | would be great |
| Z_God | I can give some pointers at least |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | lets shoot for sometime next week then? |
| Z_God | yep should be fine |
| MutantTurkey | what if i just wrote a Qt4 kpart? |
| MutantTurkey | or would that not work? |
| Z_God | not yet I suppose |
| MutantTurkey | it would |
| MutantTurkey | because it's in a seperate process |
| MutantTurkey | unless dcop calls Qt |
| MutantTurkey | which it doesn't |
| MutantTurkey | which means it would work? |
| MutantTurkey | we aren't linking anything directly together are we? |
| Z_God | I don't know what bindings you can use then for dcop |
| Z_God | the dcop c bindings link against gobject at least I think |
| Z_God | and the c++ ones, I don't know |
| MutantTurkey | okay then |
| MutantTurkey | i'll have to look at it |
| Z_God | gtk is the easiest now, because that was what xparts mainly had in mind then |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| Z_God | but I think adding Qt4 would be the better solution |
| MutantTurkey | I am fluent in gtk |
| MutantTurkey | either way |
| Z_God | I still have some patches to convert some gtk-signal code to gsignal code |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| Z_God | actually no patches yet, I still need to generate them |
| strowi | rehi |
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| MutantTurkey | does anyone know how to make twin only show the Alt-Tab list for the current desktop |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner:git online you lazy bum I got an idea |
| Z_God | I think mine does that by default |
| MutantTurkey | i dunno how to caha nge it thoiuh |
| Z_God | me neither.. |
| Z_God | I'm still on 3.5.11 here |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: why not 13? |
| Z_God | cause I read there were some issues with it and because I do not have much bandwidth here to upgrade |
| MutantTurkey | fair enough |
| MutantTurkey | i'd send you a CD of it if you'd like... |
| MutantTurkey | R14 is definitely time to upgrade though |
| Z_God | I will upgrade from lucid to precise next week |
| Z_God | which basically will force me on 3.5.13 I guess |
| MutantTurkey | why precise? |
| MutantTurkey | i hate ubuntu in general :p |
| Z_God | I'll be at my parents soon, I won't have problems with downloading then |
| Z_God | it'll be the next LTS |
| MutantTurkey | I see |
| MutantTurkey | that is good then |
| MutantTurkey | aren't they shooting for a 5 year LTS plan now? |
| MutantTurkey | i hear redhat is going to 10 years... |
| Z_God | it was only 5 years previously on servers I think |
| Z_God | and now desktop as well yeah |
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| neo_ | Regarding the alt+tab question: I can currently only tell how it is in KDE4: if you set in the task manager "Only show tasks from the current desktop" to true, then Alt+Tab will only cycle between those windows. As far as I can remember KDE3 had a similar option. |
| MutantTurkey | task manager ok |
| MutantTurkey | not the task bar? |
| neo_ | probably it was called that in KDE3 :) |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I see "show windows from all desktops" |
| MutantTurkey | but it is unchecked |
| MutantTurkey | i only see ones in the taskbar from my current desktop |
| MutantTurkey | but that is partof kicker not kwin |
| neo_ | It was worth a try. |
| MutantTurkey | indeed it should be a settin |
| neo_ | NetApplications statistics says that "Linux" has reached 1.56% usage share on the desktop… |
| neo_ | …so 2012 is the year of Linux on the Desktop™? |
| MutantTurkey | 50% increase |
| MutantTurkey | EVERY YEAR IS THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | about to lawyer up, hit the gym, and delete facebook |
| MutantTurkey | LOL |
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| MutantTurkey | Mephisto: why you version requesing me :p? |
| Mephisto | hehe |
| Mephisto | was just curious what you're using :) |
| MutantTurkey | Konversation :-) |
| MutantTurkey | it works well |
| MutantTurkey | though I do have some ideas for it |
| MutantTurkey | I never seem to get around to implementing them all :p |
| MutantTurkey | whistful thinking |
| Mephisto | :) |
| Mephisto | i actually wanted to know what distro you're on ;) |
| Mephisto | not the chat client though ) |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | Ubuntu crap crap crap |
| MutantTurkey | I am using it currently for trinity testing |
| MutantTurkey | since my preferred distro is lacking the trinity desktop packages |
| MutantTurkey | Arch Linux that is |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 846 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=846 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kword can't open CookBook.odt |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 653 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=653 enhancement, P3, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Reduce TDE Menu Clutter and Duplication |
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| frananc | Hello all. I've got two operating systems based on Debian6, CrunchBang and Salineos, originally equipped with XFCE. On both I installed the packages of Trinity, but at login splash I do not have to login to trinity session option. Any suggestion? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 847 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=847 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kde_logo.png: needs updating |
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| l0ner | I wonder if I should change my nick to: |
| l0ner | methionylglutaminylarginyltyrosylglutamylserylleucylphenylalanylalanylglutamin- |
| l0ner | ylleucyllysylglutamylarginyllysylglutamylglycylalanylphenylalanylvalylprolyl- |
| l0ner | phenylalanylvalylthreonylleucylglycylaspartylprolylglycylisoleucylglutamylglu- |
| l0ner | taminylserylleucyllysylisoleucylaspartylthreonylleucylisoleucylglutamylalanyl- |
| l0ner | glycylalanylaspartylalanylleucylglutamylleucylglycylisoleucylprolylphenylala- |
| l0ner | nylserylaspartylprolylleucylalanylaspartylglycylprolylthreonylisoleucylgluta- |
| l0ner | minylasparaginylalanylthreonylleucylarginylalanylphenylalanylalanylalanylgly- |
| l0ner | cylvalylthreonylprolylalanylglutaminylcysteinylphenylalanylglutamylmethionyl- |
| l0ner | leucylalanylleucylisoleucylarginylglutaminyllysylhistidylprolylthreonylisoleu- |
| l0ner | cylprolylisoleucylglycylleucylleucylmethionyltyrosylalanylasparaginylleucylva- |
| l0ner | lylphenylalanylasparaginyllysylglycylisoleucylaspartylglutamylphenylalanyltyro- |
| l0ner | sylalanylglutaminylcysteinylglutamyllysylvalylglycylvalylaspartylserylvalylleu- |
| l0ner | cylvalylalanylaspartylvalylprolylvalylglutaminylglutamylserylalanylprolylphe- |
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| l0ner | nylprolylisoleucylphenylalanylisoleucylcysteinylprolylprolylaspartylalanylas- |
| l0ner | partylaspartylaspartylleucylleucylarginylglutaminylisoleucylalanylseryltyrosyl- |
| l0ner | glycylarginylglycyltyrosylthreonyltyrosylleucylleucylserylarginylalanylglycyl- |
| l0ner | valylthreonylglycylalanylglutamylasparaginylarginylalanylalanylleucylprolylleu- |
| l0ner | cylasparaginylhistidylleucylvalylalanyllysylleucyllysylglutamyltyrosylasparagi- |
| l0ner | nylalanylalanylprolylprolylleucylglutaminylglycylphenylalanylglycylisoleucylse- |
| l0ner | rylalanylprolylaspartylglutaminylvalyllysylalanylalanylisoleucylaspartylalanyl- |
| l0ner | glycylalanylalanylglycylalanylisoleucylserylglycylserylalanylisoleucylvalylly- |
| l0ner | sylisoleucylisoleucylglutamylglutaminylhistidylasparaginylisoleucylglutamylpro- |
| l0ner | lylglutamyllysylmethionylleucylalanylalanylleucyllysylvalylphenylalanylvalyl- |
| l0ner | glutaminylprolylmethionyllysylalanylalanylthreonylarginylserine |
| l0ner | flood lol |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: yo man! |
| MutantTurkey | no flooding |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| l0ner | I kno |
| l0ner | w |
| l0ner | it's konwersation which sends the mutli-line message as many messages |
| l0ner | oh, and BTW: someone should tahe a look at knetwalk game |
| l0ner | and add option to disable it's sounds... |
| l0ner | -_- |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | knetwak? |
| l0ner | yep |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| l0ner | whath/why? |
| MutantTurkey | that you vant disable it |
| l0ner | I want to disable thet voice saing "perfect" when I finish..." |
| l0ner | No, ut actually say "excellent" |
| l0ner | it's creeping and annoing me |
| * l0ner wants c64 times back | |
| l0ner | but with the internet |
| l0ner | not actually bbs+irc+pute-html sites would satisfy my needs |
| l0ner | *pure |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | it's all about libcgic |
| l0ner | ND WUT IS DAT? |
| l0ner | aaargh! |
| l0ner | fscking caps |
| l0ner | sry baut that |
| l0ner | anyway.. wut would be dat? |
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| strowi | hi |
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| l0ner|away | hi |
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| * l0ner is back. | |
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| Xu_R | sadfaspdfihweaio |
| Xu_R | why you hate me tdelibs >_> |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 742 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=742 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Implement a option to use alternative Window Managers. |
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| strowi | moin |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 848 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=848 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KControl: ICC Color Profile dialog |
| l0ner | he quits and ttbotu joins... |
| l0ner | lol |
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| l0ner | yo guys! |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: ping |
| MutantTurkey | hey dude |
| MutantTurkey | wat up |
| MutantTurkey | yo |
| l0ner | you don't want to know what happened to my desktop |
| l0ner | me laptop crahsed, and after I rebooted i've seen one beautiful glich wallpaper in kdm |
| MutantTurkey | :[ |
| MutantTurkey | what happened? |
| l0ner | and now I can't display any kind of image form tde |
| l0ner | I tried to install gnome3 |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| l0ner | in web/image browser the images display correctly |
| l0ner | it may be libpng related(?) [since the faulty images are .png ones] |
| l0ner | yes it is |
| l0ner | i can't display .png files |
| MutantTurkey | probably then its library related |
| l0ner | you recieved my mail? |
| l0ner | about kmail? |
| MutantTurkey | yes I havent had a chance to do it |
| MutantTurkey | yet |
| MutantTurkey | I am so behind rahh |
| MutantTurkey | :[ |
| l0ner | behind wath? |
| * l0ner is ignorant | |
| * l0ner wants c64 | |
| MutantTurkey | behind on getting stuff done |
| MutantTurkey | lots of homework |
| MutantTurkey | need to clean |
| MutantTurkey | trinity stuff |
| MutantTurkey | bugs to fix |
| l0ner | I should be studying for exams, instead of doing PKGBULDs but well :P |
| l0ner | ok, I'm trying to switch to gnome |
| l0ner | I'll return in a minute |
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| MutantTurkey | why? |
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| l0ner | ok, I'm back |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: ok, I think I found error |
| MutantTurkey | what is it? |
| l0ner | but I think I need to recompile my trinity install against latest libpng |
| l0ner | error while loading shared libraries: libpng14.so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| MutantTurkey | or just reinstall the older version |
| MutantTurkey | wait is this with trinity on arch? |
| MutantTurkey | you'll need to do a rebuild then |
| l0ner | yeah |
| l0ner | I use only trinity |
| l0ner | but damn... breakage like this due to libpng upgarade... |
| l0ner | oh, and I noticed another thing |
| l0ner | I build my first batch of split PKGBUILDs |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | it alwayas hapenes |
| MutantTurkey | i follow the arch devel list |
| MutantTurkey | and they're always like |
| MutantTurkey | 'oh god another rebuild. fuck.' |
| l0ner | lol |
| MutantTurkey | gotta do what you gotta do |
| l0ner | ok, how do I change the system fonts in gnome3 ? |
| l0ner | I WANT THEM SMALLER!! |
| l0ner | uh, i think i can't |
| l0ner | well anyway |
| l0ner | about my split pkg |
| l0ner | i noticed that things like konsole or kate, need postgresql-lib even if they don't use it |
| MutantTurkey | no idea |
| MutantTurkey | I never used gnome 3 |
| MutantTurkey | they do? |
| MutantTurkey | why |
| l0ner | dunno |
| l0ner | they don't include it in their code |
| l0ner | but they are linked against it |
| l0ner | i build them as a split packages |
| MutantTurkey | disable the linking |
| MutantTurkey | don't link it |
| MutantTurkey | cmakelists includes the linking |
| l0ner | and installed them on vm with gnome |
| MutantTurkey | just modify it |
| l0ner | yeah, i know... i'll look at it |
| l0ner | first i need to get used to this annoingly huge gnome3 |
| l0ner | damn... the titlebar is too big, fonts are too big, icons are too big... |
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| MutantTurkey | why/ |
| MutantTurkey | just dump it |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
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| l0ner | fscking laptop |
| l0ner | it reboots randomly |
| MutantTurkey | that sucks |
| MutantTurkey | why are you even trying gnome3? |
| l0ner | problems with trinity |
| l0ner | and eyecandiness |
| l0ner | in order to improve what we have, we need to know what competition offers |
| MutantTurkey | agreed |
| l0ner | and i need to say, it looks nice |
| MutantTurkey | i've been trying kde4.8 |
| MutantTurkey | I don't like the workflow of gnome anymore |
| l0ner | i'd replace whole activities mechanism and it would be fine |
| l0ner | in gnome3 |
| l0ner | and made things smaller |
| MutantTurkey | activities in gnome3? |
| MutantTurkey | i though that was just kde4 |
| MutantTurkey | as for trinity - we need to focus on refining and improving and making more efficient the HCI we use |
| l0ner | well... i don't know how it works in kde |
| l0ner | but in the gnome the menu under which you have all your apps is called activities |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | that is dumb and annoying |
| MutantTurkey | i remember it now |
| MutantTurkey | and Unity has a new crappy HUD interface.. ihat it |
| MutantTurkey | I hate it' |
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| l0ner | well, I'd give it normal apps menu and taskbar |
| l0ner | and everything would be ok |
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| l0ner | I can't compile kdebase... tqt test fails, even if I have tqtinterface installed |
| l0ner | damn |
| l0ner | there is somethign seriously wrong in my system |
| MutantTurkey | whut |
| MutantTurkey | why is it failing |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | dunno |
| l0ner | i can't compile dummy tqt app |
| l0ner | > soltys@zer0 trinity $ gcc tqtcheck.cpp -o tqtcheck |
| l0ner | > tqtcheck.cpp:1:27: fatal error: tqapplication.h: No such file or directory |
| l0ner | > compilation terminated. |
| neo__ | well, where is tqapplication.h located? |
| l0ner | opt/qt3/include |
| neo__ | so, it should work with gcc tqtcheck.cpp -I/opt/qt3/include -o tqtcheck? |
| l0ner | while on my vm (and in the latest pkgs) it's in /opt/trinity/include |
| l0ner | let's see |
| l0ner | In file included from /opt/qt3/include/tqt/tqapplication.h:25:0, |
| l0ner | from tqtcheck.cpp:1: |
| l0ner | /opt/qt3/include/tqt/tqt.h:51:21: fatal error: qglobal.h: No such file or directory |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | no, actually this is not the problem |
| l0ner | I've got undefined references to 'QApplication' in tqtcheck.h |
| MutantTurkey | are you bulding with 3.5.13 |
| l0ner | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | I have no idea |
| l0ner | wait |
| l0ner | I might know |
| MutantTurkey | I am busy trying to finish this dumb project for work |
| l0ner | qt4 is present too |
| l0ner | project? |
| l0ner | damn qt4 |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | how do I empty my trash from konqueror? |
| MutantTurkey | It's blowing my mind |
| l0ner | dunno |
| l0ner | i use rm |
| l0ner | from konsole |
| neo__ | KDE4 ot Trinity? |
| MutantTurkey | duh got it |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: me too |
| MutantTurkey | I just had some stuff lying in my trash folder |
| neo__ | trash:/ should work in both cases I think |
| * l0ner wishes he could use rm in th real life to remove things, without using the bin... | |
| neo__ | (kioslaves are something I love about KDE) |
| MutantTurkey | kioslaves are awesome |
| MutantTurkey | it's great really |
| MutantTurkey | lets me do everything seamlessly |
| l0ner | slaves are great generally |
| * l0ner wants play c64 game called "system 15000" but it doesn't start in vice... | |
| MutantTurkey | I am a n64 guy |
| MutantTurkey | and a nes guy |
| l0ner | n64? |
| l0ner | nintendo? |
| MutantTurkey | Nintendo 64 |
| MutantTurkey | the greatest console of it's generation |
| * l0ner grew up on snes clone | |
| MutantTurkey | lol snes sucks hate it |
| l0ner | naaah |
| l0ner | i could play both nes and snes games xD |
| * l0ner is a commodore person. He learned to use keyboard on one | |
| l0ner | I remember i had casettes full of games for my c64 |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | and every time I'd get some other game :P |
| l0ner | from the same cassette |
| l0ner | good ol'times |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
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| l0ner | damned laptop overheated |
| l0ner | but I has images again! in the trinity apps I mean |
| MutantTurkey | talking with martin graesslin |
| l0ner | about? |
| l0ner | and where? |
| MutantTurkey | in #kwin |
| MutantTurkey | he's rather friendly |
| MutantTurkey | about kwin + trinity |
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| l0ner | damn, I missed toradora again... |
| l0ner | :( |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | anime show |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| l0ner | I'll settle of Max Headroom |
| l0ner | *for |
| MutantTurkey | P |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| l0ner | aaah... old school cyberpunk shows... |
| l0ner | that's what i needed |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
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| MutantTurkey | neo__: what were you doing in kwin? |
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| neo__ | MutantTurkey: reading what you and Martin Grässlin were talking about :) |
| MutantTurkey | hah |
| MutantTurkey | how did I handle myself? :p |
| l0ner | hah? |
| l0ner | dunno, wasn't there |
| MutantTurkey | I am trying very hard to look at ways we can co-operate and use KDE4 to our advantage |
| l0ner | well... wouldn't be bad |
| neo__ | MutantTurkey: did not read enough to see a bigger picture |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | damn... I want to role play |
| l0ner | cyberpunk would be best |
| MutantTurkey | uh |
| l0ner | uh? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 849 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=849 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Branding Issues |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 849 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=849 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Branding Issues |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
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| abraxxl | as here is more trafffic: any ideas about this issue? "I installed trinity under squeeze, that kcontrol and the konqueror settings menu is empty? searching the web wasn't helpful. |
| abraxxl | this was some days ago |
| abraxxl | konsole's config menu is empty to |
| abraxxl | I stumbled over a programm called kcmshell |
| abraxxl | kcmshell --list ist empty |
| abraxxl | where does trinity look for it's configurations? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 810 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=810 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Desktop Lock loses focus and "locks you out" permanently |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: thanks! |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: also good work on the pkgbuilds |
| MutantTurkey | i've been building them on arch lately |
| l0ner | yeah? |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: ping |
| MutantTurkey | pong |
| l0ner | about pkgbuilds |
| l0ner | look at ktorrent, you have a sed fix there for building with autotools |
| l0ner | if you need to build something that builds with autotools |
| l0ner | I have yet to include it in other pkgbuilds |
| MutantTurkey | it's on my .... long long list |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | I need to tart getting a todo list going |
| l0ner | I already have a toto list for trinity xD |
| l0ner | *todo |
| l0ner | and there is another dependency that comes from aur: libutempter for tdelibs |
| MutantTurkey | libutemper |
| MutantTurkey | what is that? |
| l0ner | ugh |
| l0ner | hard question :P |
| l0ner | utempter |
| l0ner | "Utempter is a utility that allows some non-privileged programs to have required root access without compromising system security. Utempter accomplishes this task by acting as a buffer between root and the programs." |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | seems legit |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/40 |
| l0ner | yeah |
| l0ner | contrib00ting |
| MutantTurkey | sorry I deleted your thing |
| MutantTurkey | hah |
| MutantTurkey | I was like "how did that get there |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | and I was like... wtf!? |
| MutantTurkey | periphirals is impossible to spell |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | it's going to be renamed Hardware probably |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
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| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | my english skill is too low to spell it correctly |
| l0ner | and damn... I even can't spell enviroment correctly :P |
| * l0ner is ignoarant | |
| * l0ner is back. | |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | i'm american and I can barely spell it |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | we need a translator leader... |
| MutantTurkey | btw |
| l0ner | uh... don't look at me |
| l0ner | but, yes |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: please highlight your comment and mark it as yours |
| MutantTurkey | i moved it and it changed |
| l0ner | done |
| l0ner | mmm... green tea |
| l0ner | and cookies |
| MutantTurkey | gotta goto my next class |
| l0ner | btw: I liked how Darrel have gone all-out on the ML against kde4 folks |
| l0ner | hf |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | I like Darrell |
| * l0ner too | |
| MutantTurkey | I like Martin as well |
| MutantTurkey | I just think that we need to stop circlejerking |
| * l0ner neutral | |
| MutantTurkey | we've been bashing KDE4 for not point. everyone who likes trinity is on the ML. not need to fight KDE |
| l0ner | yeah, true story |
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| MobileTurkey | honk honk |
| l0ner | honk! |
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| Z_God | anyone here already running trinity on precise? |
| Z_God | I'm trying the oneiric packages, but it seems I have to recompile a couple |
| l0ner|away | I'm not usig ubuntu |
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| * l0ner is back. | |
| Z_God | I'm using KDE 4.8 now, but unfortunately it seems there are still some bugs :( |
| * l0ner is using gnome3 | |
| l0ner | and I don't have much problems |
| l0ner | I'd like to use trinity... but it broke and I have to recompile |
| l0ner | and I'm having problems with this... |
| Z_God | I tried unity but it seems it's not really meant for me |
| Z_God | l0ner: also precise? |
| l0ner | Archlinux |
| Z_God | ah ok |
| l0ner | and i have screwd up somewhere in the pkgbuilds |
| l0ner | or my system is broken |
| Z_God | I just build & installed qt3 based on the oneiric source packages |
| Z_God | now it gets much further :) |
| l0ner | I needed to recompile whole thing, since libpng update on my system broke everything |
| Z_God | but what is the problem now? |
| l0ner | and now I'm unable to compile autotool based components, because autotools is not detecting properly kdelibs |
| Z_God | but you have to recompile everything due to that lib? |
| l0ner | yeah |
| l0ner | i tried only recompiling qt3, but still everything was broken |
| Z_God | hmm |
| Z_God | hope it'll work here then .... |
| l0ner | no images in any trinity app |
| l0ner | well, mine was a linker problem |
| l0ner | since i upgraded form libpng 1.4.x to 1.5.x the libpng.so.4 changed to libpng.so.5 |
| l0ner | so recompilation resolved everything |
| Z_God | wasn't it easier to keep both versions? |
| l0ner | on arch... no |
| l0ner | i think it's imposible here |
| Z_God | I have only libpng.so on my system it seems |
| l0ner | archlinux is keeping everything upstream |
| l0ner | so I have bleeding edge software on my syste, |
| l0ner | it's annoing sometimes |
| l0ner | I liked gentoo, with it's "stable-only" philosopyh |
| Z_God | I only use stable distros |
| Z_God | the reason I installed precise now is also because it'll be the next ubuntu LTS |
| l0ner | I use only distros that give me max control over what is installed and what's hapenning |
| * l0ner don't likes ubuntu. It forces too much things he'd want to change | |
| l0ner | i remember last time I tried ubuntu it keept installing things I didn't want and I have removed manually |
| l0ner | things like pulseaudio or bootspash |
| Z_God | I never used pulseaudio |
| l0ner | If I remember correctly it's installed by default in ubuntu |
| Z_God | nope |
| l0ner | you might not even know you use it |
| Z_God | maybe if you run gnome |
| l0ner | no? |
| l0ner | maybe |
| Z_God | but not with the trinity disks |
| l0ner | anyway... I don't like how ubuntu is atm |
| l0ner | besides I don't really like binary-based distros |
| l0ner | I've been on gentoo too much time, having possibility to control every aspect of my system and apps |
| l0ner | so I need something that is fully customizable |
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| Z_God | yeah I used gentoo before, but I'm not patient enough to wait for all the compiling |
| * l0ner compiled everything during the night | |
| MobileTurkey | nice |
| MobileTurkey | -O3 |
| MobileTurkey | lol/ |
| MobileTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | this too |
| l0ner | my problem was: i had only 56k connection |
| l0ner | dial-up modem |
| l0ner | and at night it worked faster |
| Z_God | yeah, but every time you install smth on gentoo, it gets compiled |
| Z_God | I never feel like waiting for that ;) |
| l0ner | and this is the aspect i like |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | well... if I get app that is customized to work on my system and don't have dependencies i don't need, I might wait |
| Z_God | trinity is installing now at least :) |
| l0ner | besides I'm a patitent man |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: do you have trinity form latest pkgbuilds installed? |
| MobileTurkey | no |
| l0ner | damn |
| MobileTurkey | not finished building |
| MobileTurkey | i'm on ubntu right now |
| MobileTurkey | does it all work? |
| MobileTurkey | i need to fire it off and then just leave and do other stuff |
| l0ner | I'm running into this: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/547372/ |
| l0ner | on autotools components |
| l0ner | It's a mystery for me why |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: do you have ubuntu and arch on the same machine? |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| MobileTurkey | huh |
| MobileTurkey | is that true |
| MobileTurkey | have you recompiled Qt3? |
| l0ner | yes |
| MobileTurkey | huh |
| MobileTurkey | post the the ML |
| l0ner | first I'll verify if it happens on vm too |
| l0ner | and I'll post then |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: run arch in chroot and pull latest tde-packaging. You have there (in trinity-base) small script that will build and install base components |
| MobileTurkey | how can I do that from ubuntu? |
| l0ner | wait |
| l0ner | mount your arch partitions somewhere, /dev/yourarchroot /media/arch, /dev/yourboot /media/arch/boot and so on |
| l0ner | and then do this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=6#doc_chap1 |
| l0ner | mirrorselect is gentoo-spacific |
| l0ner | rest is normal chrooting |
| l0ner | you should do this as root |
| l0ner | then in the arch, su yourusername |
| l0ner | screen and you can work |
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| MobileTurkey | sounds like a lot of work |
| MobileTurkey | I am going to wait till I go home and fire up my server |
| l0ner | not really |
| MobileTurkey | and do a build there |
| MobileTurkey | I'm on battery - compiling trinity will kill it |
| l0ner | well... yeah |
| MobileTurkey | I really would like to get a build server setup |
| l0ner | this is true |
| l0ner | some stable linux host + vm |
| l0ner | this is my setup |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| MobileTurkey | many VM's runnin i686 and x86_64 and doing builds |
| l0ner | yep |
| MobileTurkey | have it frontend automated |
| l0ner | pretty much |
| MobileTurkey | like launchpad |
| MobileTurkey | for atch |
| MobileTurkey | arch' |
| l0ner | cron + scripts |
| MobileTurkey | nope |
| MobileTurkey | probably more something with a webfrontend |
| MobileTurkey | so I can manually ifre |
| MobileTurkey | I don't want to fire rebuilds when it costs cash to do it |
| MobileTurkey | power ya know |
| MobileTurkey | gotta go though |
| MobileTurkey | catch ya later |
| l0ner | later |
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| Z_God | trinity is working here on precise :) |
| Z_God | there are some bugs with launching it seems though |
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| MobileTurkey | I want to improve the network progress dialog |
| MobileTurkey | !todo |
| tbottu | MobileTurkey: Error: "todo" is not a valid command. |
| MobileTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | tbottu is missing important feature it seeems |
| tbottu | l0ner: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | and what do you mean by network progress dialog? |
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| Aristide | Hi ! |
| l0ner | y0 |
| Aristide | What new about Trinity desktop portage for SUSE ? |
| l0ner | dunno |
| l0ner | MobileTurkey: what do you think about having another, developer-only ml called "bugs", to which every bug reported in our bugzilla is sent? this would be better than having notifications about them in irc |
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| l0ner | uh... |
| Aristide | How install TDE with OpenSUSE ? |
| l0ner | try compilin it manually |
| l0ner | if there aren't packages |
| Aristide | l0ner: How ? x) |
| l0ner | 2 links for you |
| Aristide | Yeah Link <3 |
| l0ner | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/HowToBuild |
| l0ner | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/kde/kde.html |
| l0ner | second one is more clean |
| l0ner | *clear |
| Aristide | Yeah thx :) |
| l0ner | besides look in scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde-packaging |
| l0ner | look at arch pkgbuilds, they contain some patches that may help |
| Aristide | l0ner: I have a other question ? TDE can work with KDE 4 Installed ? |
| Aristide | (KDE 4.8) |
| l0ner | if you install first trinity and the kde4 i think yes |
| l0ner | but you'll need to keep them separated |
| l0ner | install trinity in /opt/ |
| l0ner | and everything should be fine |
| l0ner | this will require testing tho, since I havent tried it myself |
| Aristide | ok |
| Aristide | l0ner: x) Finaly go VM :D |
| Aristide | x) |
| l0ner | good |
| l0ner | Aristide: do you know how to create packages for suse> |
| l0ner | ? |
| l0ner | and BTW: there is something for opensuse in our git |
| Aristide | l0ner: No x) |
| l0ner | http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde-packagin/g |
| l0ner | http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde-packaging/ |
| Aristide | l0ner: Suse use (uhu) rpm format |
| l0ner | there is folder called opensuse |
| Aristide | l0ner: If you want you can see how work Suse repository in http://download.opensuse.org ^^ |
| l0ner | Aristide: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/opensuse |
| l0ner | read REDME |
| l0ner | *README |
| l0ner | this should help you |
| Aristide | osc -A https://api.opensuse.org/ build --local-package --alternative-project openSUSE:Factory standard i586 |
| Aristide | OR |
| Aristide | Hum ... |
| Aristide | I use a 64 bits |
| l0ner | try replacing the i586 with whathever you get through uname-m |
| l0ner | *uname -m |
| Aristide | Ok |
| Aristide | x86_64 x) |
| l0ner | w00t!!! patches! xD |
| l0ner | time to work on pulling patches for other distros into arch! |
| Aristide | =) |
| Aristide | l0ner: I'm too lazy for compile it myself, i wait for Suse :D |
| Aristide | (:'() |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | You'll wait |
| Aristide | ^^ |
| Aristide | l0ner: When Trinity has been started ? |
| l0ner | do you realize it may be a looong wait? |
| l0ner | long time ago |
| l0ner | i don't remember exactly |
| l0ner | I got interested half year ago |
| l0ner | and I've become arch pkgbulds maintainer something like 2 months ago |
| Aristide | ^^ |
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| l0ner|away | MutantTurkey: could not replicate my problem with autotools on vm |
| l0ner|away | it's something with my arch installation |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| MutantTurkey | it's dirty anywya |
| MutantTurkey | that's why vms are nice |
| l0ner|away | yah |
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| l0ner|away | I'm thinking about reinstalling my system |
| l0ner|away | I have spare partition anyway |
| l0ner|away | on which was my old arch installation |
| l0ner|away | that got seriously broken |
| l0ner|away | damn... I'd like to introduce some gnome3 features to trinity |
| l0ner|away | like windows overview |
| MutantTurkey | whut whut |
| MutantTurkey | what is that? |
| MutantTurkey | is that the copy off of a mac style overview? |
| MutantTurkey | gnome3 features lol |
| MutantTurkey | i had that 6 years ago on my mac G5 |
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| MutantTurkey | okay gmail with kmail l0ner|away |
| MutantTurkey | how did you did you d it? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 850 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=850 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Implement tdehardware library |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R|ZNC: dude |
| MutantTurkey | you said like 8 months ago you would get those packages done :p |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/40 |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: >:| |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | xD |
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| strowi_ | hi |
| wodim | hi |
| wodim | it's not obvious for me from the website |
| wodim | is HAL needed? |
| strowi_ | hehe, i was just trying to get hal working.. |
| strowi_ | no success so far.. kdebase-kioslaves won't compile here..;( |
| wodim | well, meh |
| wodim | i suppose this is not a serious project if it depends on hal |
| wodim | no actual distro ships it |
| wodim | it's completely deprecated |
| strowi_ | i know, but it was still working for me. |
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| MutantTurkey | hi hi hi |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: yes it is |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: ... |
| MutantTurkey | "this is not a serious project if it depends on hal" |
| MutantTurkey | so far from the truth |
| MutantTurkey | Serghei Amelian is currently working on a underlying TDEHW library. The switch from hal has been delayed for several reasons |
| MutantTurkey | 1) Hal still works on linux very well. Even if not defaulty shipped by a distro, it still works when compiled. |
| wodim | no |
| MutantTurkey | 2) The API for what is "right" and "wrong" has changed several times over the last few yeras |
| MutantTurkey | from hal to devicekit and it's minoins now to udev |
| MutantTurkey | There is no point investing significant energy if the API will change in 6 months |
| MutantTurkey | 3) the project has very limited development time. We are all rather busy. Implementing a whole new library isn't a walk in the part |
| MutantTurkey | as I said, Samelian is working on it. |
| MutantTurkey | No what? |
| wodim | hmm |
| wodim | hal was not compilable some time ago, now it seems that they introduced a patch so it is |
| MutantTurkey | yes many patches rae avaiable |
| MutantTurkey | what is wrong with that |
| wodim | that last time i tried i couldn't even compile hal |
| MutantTurkey | which distro do you use? almost all distros apply their own patches |
| MutantTurkey | again. what distro are you using? |
| wodim | arch |
| MutantTurkey | dude |
| MutantTurkey | don't you check that AUR? |
| MutantTurkey | http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51454 |
| wodim | i do, i just compiled arch from there |
| wodim | hal* |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner|away maintains that package |
| MutantTurkey | it doesn't work? |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner|away: WHY DOESN'T IT WORK LONER WHY |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| wodim | it didnt some time ago |
| MutantTurkey | I think he fixed it |
| MutantTurkey | I was maintaining it but when it broke I ran out of time to fix it. he has taken over archlinux package builds for me |
| wodim | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Binary_Packages_-_From_Trinity_Old_Stable_Code_.283.5.12.29 |
| wodim | is this good? |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | definitely not |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know who wrote that |
| MutantTurkey | oh wait |
| wodim | ? |
| MutantTurkey | David Rankin |
| MutantTurkey | that repository is still good afaik |
| MutantTurkey | it's hosted by kaiting chen |
| MutantTurkey | < ithink> |
| wodim | this is chakra kdemod3 |
| MutantTurkey | Albert V was in contact with me about 3.5.13 sources |
| wodim | hmm |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| wodim | i had it |
| MutantTurkey | well kdemod3 with Trinity 3.5.12 |
| wodim | heh |
| MutantTurkey | not really kdemod3' |
| wodim | back when it existed i used kdemod3 |
| MutantTurkey | tdemod3' |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | kdemod was pretty nice |
| MutantTurkey | in the day. |
| wodim | with its black skin |
| MutantTurkey | back when life was grand and the kernels didn't suck... |
| wodim | but in its latest day it didn't work well |
| wodim | days* |
| wodim | because it needed recompiles to match arch official repositories |
| MutantTurkey | that page really needs a lot of work |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner|away: todo https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Binary_Packages_-_From_Trinity_Old_Stable_Code_.283.5.12.29 clean that shit up |
| MutantTurkey | I'll help |
| MutantTurkey | actually it looks mostly Ok |
| MutantTurkey | but sitll |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: whats the error on Hal? |
| * MutantTurkey should be writing his essay sigh | |
| MutantTurkey | who cares about Aristotle's Utopian dream. It sucked. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: I want to smack my prof in the face. |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| wodim | MutantTurkey, no error now |
| MutantTurkey | 2-4 pages of bs |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: ... |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| wodim | i said i had an error some time ago |
| MutantTurkey | I am guessing the error was related to v4linux changing up |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: have you gotten a chance to build trinity? |
| wodim | yep |
| wodim | v4l |
| wodim | no |
| wodim | i don't know what to do |
| wodim | whether compile trinity or use that repo |
| MutantTurkey | why not try and compile it |
| MutantTurkey | otherwise use the repo |
| wodim | because it's a lot of time |
| MutantTurkey | yerah |
| MutantTurkey | depends on what you have |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: what kind of specs do you have/ |
| wodim | i may leave it compiling while i sleep. |
| wodim | a dual core |
| wodim | err, core 2 duo |
| MutantTurkey | I'd pop in a movie and let it run |
| wodim | well i'll try the repo before |
| MutantTurkey | my intel atom it took a very very lolishly long time, but on my i5 it's not to bad. |
| MutantTurkey | okay the repo will work |
| MutantTurkey | it's just old |
| wodim | hmm |
| wodim | what's kpilot |
| ld100 | :) how long is lolishly long? |
| MutantTurkey | ld100: like a day or so |
| MutantTurkey | it was a joke |
| ld100 | :) |
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| MutantTurkeywo | ugh |
| ld100 | just curious :) |
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| MutantTurkey | ld100: don't try it at home - you'll want to shoot something. |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: it's a palm pilot hotsync tool |
| MutantTurkey | i think |
| MutantTurkey | TDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | so pumped for R15, but gotta get R14 out the door... |
| wodim | :: File /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdemod3-kdebase-3.5.12-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (checksum)). |
| wodim | it always says this |
| wodim | heh |
| wodim | not a problem of mine i suppose |
| wodim | so... |
| wodim | MutantTurkey wins! I compile. |
| wodim | should i rely on the AUR packages? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | L0ner is working with me on them |
| MutantTurkey | they are trustworthy |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner|away: right.../ |
| wodim | oook. |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| wodim | i see several packages |
| wodim | what ones do i install for a base? |
| MutantTurkey | errr |
| MutantTurkey | err |
| MutantTurkey | fucking wish we had a meta package |
| wodim | yes... |
| MutantTurkey | it's on the list |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | I am guessing that trinity-kdebase would be it |
| MutantTurkey | it should pull in all the other underlying packages |
| MutantTurkey | here is a list of trinity related packages |
| MutantTurkey | http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0&K=l0ner&do_Search=Go&detail=1&C=0&SeB=m&SB=n&SO=a&PP=50&outdated= |
| MutantTurkey | Also if you want even more bleeding edge there is a git repository |
| MutantTurkey | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/log/arch/ |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: any other questions... |
| MutantTurkey | I wanna get to work so just ping me if you need anything |
| wodim | thanks! |
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| MutantTurkey | yessir |
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| MutantTurkey | wodim: how is it going? |
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| MutantTurkey | this paper is not writing itself |
| MutantTurkey | but i'm not making much headway either |
| ld100 | whats your paper about, if you can spare a second or two for a curious mind? |
| tbottu | 10chaotickjg@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 825 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=825 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kmail/Kontact issue with encrypted email |
| MutantTurkey | ld100: some usless polictical science class |
| MutantTurkey | this is a course designed to examine all types of political systems. instead my professor blathers on about Americans and republicans and democrats |
| MutantTurkey | as if nothing else existed. |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | sigh |
| ld100 | hm :/ |
| MutantTurkey | my paper is about the invasion on our privacy in the way of "security" |
| MutantTurkey | Benjamin Franklin once said "“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty or Safety.”" |
| MutantTurkey | words to live by if you ask me. |
| ld100 | yeah |
| ld100 | I would have to agree :) |
| ld100 | of course I'm from canada so i may point out the differing opinions on what constitutes essential liberties |
| MutantTurkey | what are those? |
| MutantTurkey | healthcare and such? |
| ld100 | sure, and firearms etc. or drugs for that matter |
| MutantTurkey | ddrugs? |
| MutantTurkey | and firearms whats wrong with them? |
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| l0ner | wodim: you still there? |
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| wodim | l0ner|away, |
| wodim | ./tmp/yaourt-tmp-neiko/aur-trinity-kdebase/src/kdebase/libkonq/konq_historymgr.cc: In member function ‘bool KonqHistoryManager::saveHistory()’: |
| wodim | ./tmp/yaourt-tmp-neiko/aur-trinity-kdebase/src/kdebase/libkonq/konq_historymgr.cc:209:10: error: ‘class KSaveFile’ has no member named ‘setAsync’ |
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| l0ner | yes? |
| l0ner | oh, that |
| l0ner | fixed in git |
| wodim | hm... |
| l0ner | i still need to update aur |
| wodim | ok |
| wodim | when will you update it? |
| * l0ner don't have time :( | |
| wodim | :( |
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| wodim | but... that means that latest trinity version is deliberately broken? heh |
| l0ner|away | I don't see it as broken |
| l0ner|away | it works for me |
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| laurent\ | using 3.5.13, encountering the kdm cpu bug (http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=690), the weird thing is: UseSAK=false and still kdm displays the ctrl-alt-del thing |
| tbottu | 04Bug 690: enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdm_greet uses too much CPU |
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| l0ner|away | laurent\: strange... I don't have the ctrl-ald-del thing |
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| * l0ner is back. | |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: send me a mail about trinity page in arch wiki. What needs to be done there, what to add and what remove. |
| l0ner | looking at it atm makes my eyes bleed |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I'm not sure |
| MutantTurkey | I need to review it |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: progress? |
| MutantTurkey | I think KControl should be a priority for this release. |
| * l0ner too | |
| MutantTurkey | definitely |
| MutantTurkey | it's gone on lone enought |
| wodim | none, MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: what happened? |
| wodim | there's a bug (kdebase won't cmpile) and l0ner says he won't fix it |
| l0ner | for me priorities are: pkgbuilds and binary pkgs, website, cmake port |
| laurent\ | l0ner: it goes away when i kill kdmtsak |
| l0ner | lol |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: whut |
| MutantTurkey | why won't it work? |
| l0ner | it has been fixed in git |
| MutantTurkey | file ALL ZE BUGS@ |
| wodim | i want a pkgbuild for it |
| MutantTurkey | I am confused |
| wodim | if there's a bug that makes it not compile, how come you released a stable version of it? |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: because arch isn't supported |
| MutantTurkey | at all yet |
| MutantTurkey | arch as you know it is much more on the edge |
| MutantTurkey | those ubuntu fools are probably still using GCC 3.x |
| wodim | i can understand then the dependency on hal |
| l0ner | wodim: the pkgbuilds in aur arent really stable ones |
| MutantTurkey | what I am saying is that Arch is on the edge, so everything breaks. a API bump, a autotools bump, other distros keep them back to prevent it |
| MutantTurkey | wait has it been fixed in git? wodim's problem? |
| wodim | ? |
| MutantTurkey | or was that kdmtsak' |
| wodim | source=('http://mirror.ets.kth.se/trinity/releases/3.5.13/kdebase-3.5.13.tar.gz' |
| wodim | so? |
| wodim | should i just remove all the patches in the pkgbuild? |
| wodim | that way it *must* compile |
| MutantTurkey | what's the compilation error you get? |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: not exactly. |
| wodim | why not? |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: one patch slipped into patchset that prevents building |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | GET THAT OUT |
| wodim | do i remove all the patches then? |
| wodim | how many patches are in there? why did you cmpress them? |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: because we are the first people to attempt trinity + arch... so a lot of stuff didn't build without patches |
| l0ner | no |
| l0ner | wait like... 30 mins |
| wodim | OK |
| MutantTurkey | yeah what are all these patches ?:p |
| l0ner | i need to push the changes I've made up till now |
| l0ner | and then I'll update aur |
| MutantTurkey | are those ones from kdemod3 l0ner? |
| l0ner | some |
| MutantTurkey | whatever ones applied I think we should send upstream |
| l0ner | some are mine on small things |
| l0ner | yeah... |
| MutantTurkey | at least have tim review them. |
| MutantTurkey | all cmake fixes should definitely go upstream |
| l0ner | I'll take a look later on other distro branches |
| l0ner | what they apply |
| l0ner | pull them and make a list |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | and send them to ML |
| MutantTurkey | bug tracker. |
| l0ner | this too |
| l0ner | but I'll be slow on this |
| l0ner | on 1st march i have exam |
| l0ner | and I need to study |
| MutantTurkey | I've got a lot tomorrow |
| wodim | l0ner, are you going to update other pkgbuilds, apart from kdebase? |
| l0ner | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | and my girlfriend is coming over tonight... |
| MutantTurkey | asdsagjaga |
| l0ner | lol |
| MutantTurkey | 2 papers and 2 exams and a quiz. |
| MutantTurkey | girlfriend doesn't understand that I have a life |
| l0ner | wodim: there were changes in pretty much everything |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: no girl does |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | I am going skiing all weekend though :) |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: installation of gnome-power-manager resolved my overheathing problem |
| MutantTurkey | and my band got 3 gigs next month :p |
| MutantTurkey | woohooo |
| l0ner | nice |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: what overheating problem? |
| MutantTurkey | and does it just clock your board back? |
| wodim | l0ner, ok, thank you. |
| l0ner | every time I tried to compile something my cpu got so hot that kernel was shutting down whole system |
| MutantTurkey | oh wow |
| MutantTurkey | get a new fan |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | what cpu is that? |
| l0ner | for a 1 year old laptop? |
| l0ner | intel i3 |
| MutantTurkey | lol i3 |
| l0ner | it's laptop problem |
| MutantTurkey | i have the i5 >:) |
| MutantTurkey | what manufactuer? |
| l0ner | samsung |
| MutantTurkey | the i3 is actually pretty great |
| l0ner | don't you ever buy one |
| l0ner | i know |
| MutantTurkey | I'vehad only bad experiences with samsung |
| MutantTurkey | I'm rocking the X220 :) |
| l0ner | but samsung does strange things in the acpi/pw management field |
| l0ner | thinkpad? |
| MutantTurkey | it just looks sexy |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/tx_nbc2/lenoX220_3.jpg |
| * l0ner wants this: http://www.dell.com/it/aziende/p/latitude-xt2/pd | |
| l0ner | sorry about italian, they have ip geolocation riderection |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | lattitude are nice |
| l0ner | post IBM |
| MutantTurkey | who? |
| MutantTurkey | the thinkpad? |
| l0ner | yes |
| MutantTurkey | who cares |
| MutantTurkey | the quality is still very very good |
| l0ner | well... IBM was good |
| MutantTurkey | they're the same laptop.... |
| l0ner | i know |
| l0ner | and for me it's a good thing |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| l0ner | ibm used to make good thing |
| l0ner | anyway my laptop sucks |
| l0ner | after one year and half the keyboard is falling apart |
| l0ner | it overheats |
| l0ner | and I'm getting stragne errors form videocard |
| l0ner | AAAAAAARGH!!! |
| l0ner | I can't update kdebase to aur |
| l0ner | *upload |
| l0ner | "Invalid name: only lowercase letters are allowed." |
| l0ner | wodim: arts, qt3, tqtinterface, kdelibs, kdebase, dbus-tqt has been updated in aur |
| wodim | th |
| l0ner | kdebase is split-pkg providing 5 packages, you'll need to install all of them in order to get full functionality |
| wodim | anks |
| wodim | hmm |
| l0ner | you can omit kdm, if you want to use something else |
| wodim | aur/trinity-kdebase 3513-4 (4) |
| wodim | that's the only tihng i see |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | but it provides 5 *.tar.xz packages |
| wodim | ah ok |
| wodim | okok |
| l0ner | see PKGBUILD |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: you pushed split packages? |
| MutantTurkey | nice... |
| l0ner | first one |
| MutantTurkey | what are the split parts? |
| l0ner | and not entirely finished |
| l0ner | kdm, konqueror, kate and konsole |
| l0ner | everything else is in kdebase |
| MutantTurkey | and then "base-common"? |
| MutantTurkey | or something |
| l0ner | kdebase |
| l0ner | i don't want to have the *-common packages |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | if I don't have to |
| MutantTurkey | how much are you splitting in? |
| wodim | l0ner, what's the pkgbuild you say it has several packages inside? |
| wodim | because kdebase is the same |
| l0ner | kdebase |
| l0ner | wait |
| MutantTurkey | kwin, kdesu kdesktop... kcontro... ksysguard? |
| l0ner | wodim: you need to wait a while, it needs to get digested by whole system it seems |
| wodim | oook |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I don't think someone would install them separately |
| MutantTurkey | whutwizzla |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: what about ksysgaurd? |
| l0ner | in kdebase |
| MutantTurkey | ya |
| l0ner | besides, it was a first attempt |
| l0ner | I thought that kdm, kate, konsole, konqueror can be used outside trinity, while other kdebase components not |
| l0ner | or it will be unlikely |
| l0ner | i need to move kioslaves from kdebase to konqueror |
| l0ner | or provide it as a separate package |
| MutantTurkey | what do you mean... |
| MutantTurkey | seperate |
| MutantTurkey | or make idividual slaves? |
| MutantTurkey | in a kio-slaves group? |
| l0ner | i thought about this too |
| MutantTurkey | how realistic do you want to be? how dogmatic do you want to be? |
| MutantTurkey | if we want to go all out split... |
| l0ner | so one can install kioslaves he will use, without installing the onse he wont |
| l0ner | I was thinking about full-split |
| l0ner | but it will be overkill |
| l0ner | too much segmentation in the area that don't needs to be segmented |
| MutantTurkey | right. |
| MutantTurkey | like you don't install every xorg-video driver |
| MutantTurkey | only the one you want |
| MutantTurkey | they are all in a group |
| l0ner | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | xf86-xorg-video or whatever |
| l0ner | this for kio-slaves |
| MutantTurkey | how did kdemod3 do it |
| l0ner | wait I'll look |
| wodim | l0ner, so you sent the new tarball but the aur is still working at it? |
| l0ner | seems so |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: why don't you just checkout our git repo? |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: they provided whole kdebase as one package |
| l0ner | wodim: that would be the best idea |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: also, tim has the offer open to start providing packages on his mirror. |
| l0ner | niiiice!!! |
| MutantTurkey | do you think we should do that or should we find our own mirror... |
| MutantTurkey | kaiting chen offer still stood as of last week |
| * l0ner hears "fatality" in his mind ear | |
| l0ner | mirror provided by trinity would be more official |
| wodim | no |
| wodim | i prefer aur |
| wodim | that way it's easy to uninstall |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: well always that will be an option |
| wodim | and it creates a package i can install later |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: kaiting has more bandwidth... |
| l0ner | having them on mirror provided by tim would be like saying "those are officall packages provided by trinity team" |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | let me pm you ok? |
| l0ner | kay |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | why the fsck aur wont update kdebase!! |
| MutantTurkey | using burp? |
| l0ner | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| l0ner | i'll try manually |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | do you have a script to automatically upload all the packages/ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | nah |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | jw |
| l0ner | i do: burp `find . -name *.src.tar.gz` |
| laurent\ | l0ner: it only happens when UseTheme=false. I don't see the ctrl-alt-del thing if UseTheme is set to True |
| MutantTurkey | I can't seem to disable kdm theming at all... |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: i have found bug in aur |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: whut is that? |
| MutantTurkey | get in #archlinux and mention it |
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| l0ner | konversation crashed |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: anyway look here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56509 |
| MutantTurkey | I am here |
| MutantTurkey | whats wrong? |
| MutantTurkey | is that the kdebase package? |
| l0ner | yes |
| MutantTurkey | https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16394 |
| MutantTurkey | or something |
| l0ner | it got renamed to trinity-kate which is name of one of the split pkgs and description is from konqueror pkg |
| MutantTurkey | I am asking about it in #archlinux |
| l0ner | I'm there too |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | i asked |
| l0ner | k |
| l0ner | I'm reading the bug page |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| l0ner | fsck! |
| l0ner | more work for em |
| l0ner | *me |
| MutantTurkey | what? |
| l0ner | I'm branching the split pkgs |
| l0ner | and reverting kdebase to non-split one |
| l0ner | non splits will be for aur |
| l0ner | split ones for binary repo |
| MutantTurkey | good idea |
| MutantTurkey | I am still confused on how to do branching on git |
| MutantTurkey | so all you do is |
| MutantTurkey | git branch lol |
| MutantTurkey | and it switches to lol |
| MutantTurkey | make some edits, git commit |
| MutantTurkey | then go back to branch master? |
| * l0ner is confused too | |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | time to learn ;P |
| l0ner | for now I'll do just cp trinity-kdebase trinity-kdebase-split |
| MutantTurkey | try and do a branch.. |
| l0ner | too late |
| MutantTurkey | http://book.git-scm.com/3_basic_branching_and_merging.html |
| l0ner | I'll try to do something later in my github |
| MutantTurkey | look at that |
| MutantTurkey | its very good |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | anyway, I have looked at arch git |
| l0ner | which contains pkgbuilds for official pkgs |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| MutantTurkey | yes...? |
| l0ner | they have branch for every package |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| l0ner | and the branches are shown in master |
| l0ner | I'd like to do that for tde-packaging |
| l0ner | so I'll need to pull/work only on my branch |
| l0ner | and cloning of master will clone every branch too |
| MutantTurkey | how do you do that? |
| l0ner | dunno |
| l0ner | I need to make some research on this |
| wodim | still waiting for the aur to settle |
| wodim | lol |
| l0ner | you'll wait |
| l0ner | the package didn't get updated |
| l0ner | aur have problems with parsing split-pkgbuilds |
| MutantTurkey | sigh |
| wodim | don't split it then |
| l0ner | this is what i intend to do for aur |
| wodim | but it doesn't work so you shouldn't do it |
| l0ner | wodim: kdebase got updated |
| wodim | yes. |
| wodim | but there are more packages still to update? |
| l0ner | no |
| l0ner | aur is up to date as now |
| wodim | thank |
| wodim | s |
| wodim | ==> Setting PATH, CMAKE and Trinity Environment variables |
| wodim | /tmp/yaourt-tmp-neiko/aur-trinity-arts/./PKGBUILD: line 26: /etc/profile.d/trinity.sh: No such file or directory |
| wodim | ? |
| wodim | what package includes that? |
| wodim | l0ner, ? |
| l0ner | tqtinterface |
| wodim | ok |
| wodim | nope |
| wodim | it's not there |
| l0ner | buildorder should be: qt3 -> tqtinterface -> arts -> dbus-tqt -> kdelibs -> kdebase |
| l0ner | wait |
| l0ner | wodim: rebuild tqtinterface, in aur it is |
| l0ner | wodim: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/tr/trinity-tqtinterface/PKGBUILD last 3 lines |
| wodim | did you upload a new version without changing the pkgrel? |
| l0ner | argh |
| l0ner | i forgot again? |
| wodim | seems so |
| wodim | and you told me that kdebase was the only updated package |
| l0ner | i always forget |
| l0ner | no |
| wodim | hm well anyway |
| l0ner | i listed what have beed updated |
| wodim | can you upload the changed pkgrl please? |
| wodim | pkgrel* |
| l0ner | kay |
| l0ner | updated |
| wodim | thanks |
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| MutantTurkey | hello sobukus |
| sobukus | Erm ... eh... hi. |
| sobukus | You a greet bot? |
| MutantTurkey | urh hi! |
| MutantTurkey | no just a person |
| MutantTurkey | :P |
| MutantTurkey | how many robots are named MutantTurkey? |
| sobukus | Well, as a person... could you give me some advice on how to react to the relevation that kdm_greet eats a full CPU all the time? |
| l0ner | pathc |
| l0ner | *patch |
| sobukus | I know the bug is fixed in GIT ... but I wonder if I really have to go through building the whole lot. |
| MutantTurkey | link to patch l0ner? |
| l0ner | lol |
| MutantTurkey | sobukus: you might be able to just compile kdm |
| l0ner | I know it exist... but where... |
| MutantTurkey | which is pretty easy |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: didn't you just tell someone about it? |
| l0ner | sobukus: which distro? |
| MutantTurkey | i thought you had the link.. |
| MutantTurkey | should I change my nick? |
| l0ner | to? |
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| sobukus | In fact, I did hack on kdm some time ago... but http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/HowToBuild looks more involved than I remember KDE 3 builds to be |
| cmorrison | it's rather boring thogh |
| sobukus | l0ner: It's Scientific Linux 5.6 |
| cmorrison | sobukus: it shouldn't be to hard to recompile just KDM |
| sobukus | so, RHEL |
| cmorrison | sobukus: you might want to just email Francois Adriot and ask him to patch it then upload new binaries |
| sobukus | In fact, I'm quite used to building things, but on RHEL, I figure I'll have to install quite a set of prerequisites... |
| sobukus | cmorrison: that was my hope |
| cmorrison | sobukus: i'll send you his email |
| cmorrison | yes... |
| sobukus | thanks |
| wodim | l0ner, did you update kdelibs? |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | again pkgrel? |
| wodim | yes |
| wodim | it's still 3513-5 |
| cmorrison | I wish it would autobump |
| cmorrison | when you generated the source.gz |
| l0ner | yeah... |
| cmorrison | I also wish it automagically generated the MD5 sums |
| cmorrison | seems to counterintutive |
| cmorrison | ya know? |
| l0ner | wodim: updated |
| l0ner | cmorrison: funny thing is: I don't apply the cpu usage patch to kdm |
| l0ner | and yet... It seems we don't have problems wit this on arch |
| cmorrison | I don't have it at all... |
| cmorrison | yeah |
| cmorrison | Iwonder what it is |
| cmorrison | what does the patch do? |
| l0ner | dunno... I've seen it some time ago on the ml, so I know it exist |
| wodim | l0ner, what about dbus-tqt? |
| cmorrison | wodim: what about it? |
| wodim | did you update it? |
| wodim | it has the same pkgrel |
| l0ner | yes |
| wodim | so... |
| l0ner | I updated everything |
| wodim | everything? |
| wodim | even qt3? |
| l0ner | pretty much |
| l0ner | yeah |
| wodim | so update its pkgrel too |
| l0ner | qt3,tqtinterface,arts,dbus-tqt,kdelibs,kdebase has been updated |
| l0ner | tqt,kdelibs, and kdebase should have pkgrel updated |
| wodim | update qt3 and dbus-tqt |
| l0ner | wodim: should be done |
| wodim | ok |
| l0ner | cmorrison: look here: http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/ |
| l0ner | in master you have list of all the branches |
| l0ner | I wonder how it is done |
| cmorrison | those are just the folders |
| cmorrison | those are the branches? |
| *** cmorrison is now known as MutantTurkey | |
| *** cmorrison has joined #trinity-desktop | |
| l0ner | cmorrison: seems so |
| l0ner | look at branches |
| *** cmorrison is now known as MutantTurkey | |
| l0ner | packages/a2ps branch contains what a2ps folder contains |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| MutantTurkey | I hate myself |
| MutantTurkey | like 5 hours debugging |
| MutantTurkey | over a idiotic variable mixup |
| MutantTurkey | talk about quality control... |
| MutantTurkey | who has an variable named $id $idPaper and $ib |
| MutantTurkey | i cant deal with that |
| MutantTurkey | blows my mind |
| l0ner | where? |
| MutantTurkey | this project I amworking on |
| MutantTurkey | it's in french, the code names suck the documentation sucks |
| MutantTurkey | tawkjgta'jg'agksagkjgggggggaga |
| MutantTurkey | i hate it |
| l0ner | why are you working on a project in french? |
| l0ner | why this apple is tasteless |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: about the gnome feature I was talking before |
| l0ner | yes it is a copy of osx feature |
| l0ner | but it is still nice |
| wodim | what are you talking about, if I may ask? |
| *** fos has quit IRC | |
| l0ner | wodim: I'm currently on gnome3 |
| wodim | same |
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| l0ner | and i like the winodws overwiev |
| l0ner | and I'd like to see it in trinity too |
| l0ner | at some point |
| l0ner | it's nice feature |
| wodim | from what I read, you're going to port kde3 to qt4? |
| l0ner | no |
| l0ner | I don't think so |
| l0ner | since we have total control over qt3 |
| l0ner | damn... it's up to tim |
| l0ner | anyway |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1054260#p1054260 |
| l0ner | lol? |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: Qt4 integration will be possible very shortly |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: what are you looling? |
| MutantTurkey | drankinnatty? |
| l0ner | that was sad lol |
| MutantTurkey | what |
| MutantTurkey | he is the guy who worked on trinity & arch |
| MutantTurkey | he disappeared after some time |
| l0ner | i know |
| MutantTurkey | and stopped respondingto my emails |
| MutantTurkey | it's rather annoying |
| l0ner | and it seesm he want to start working on 3.5.13 pkbguilds this summer |
| l0ner | and I.. lol. We already have them |
| l0ner | wodim: qt4 integration don't mean we will port trinity to qt4 |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| l0ner | it will be possible to use both Qt4 and QT3 in the same app |
| MutantTurkey | sometihng like that |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I'm going to provide one package for all of the kioslaves. At first i thought about creating one package for the common ones and separate packages for the less used ones... but i don't see clearly how to split them and providing each kislave separately will cause too much segmentation. |
| l0ner | Now my question is: which apps use kioslaves? |
| l0ner | konqueror is obvious |
| l0ner | but others? |
| MutantTurkey | Agree |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | all of them do |
| MutantTurkey | they all use the kio backend |
| MutantTurkey | to access files |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | so the applcations dont even know anything about sshfs or networking or tar files |
| MutantTurkey | they just see files |
| MutantTurkey | it's integrated so that the kio backends handle all the file working |
| MutantTurkey | to the applications - kate - whatever |
| MutantTurkey | they see everything normally |
| l0ner | ok, that I know |
| l0ner | but this means that every app we provide should have the trinity-kioslaves package as a dependency |
| l0ner | at least those app which access files |
| MutantTurkey | also your grammer is wrong |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| l0ner | where? |
| MutantTurkey | they dont NEED the kioslaves to work |
| MutantTurkey | afaik those are all just additonal ones |
| l0ner | ok |
| MutantTurkey | " Are we going to port trinity to qt4 or don't." |
| l0ner | should be? |
| MutantTurkey | Are we going to port trinity to qt4 or not? |
| MutantTurkey | is the correct |
| l0ner | ok, I'll remember that |
| MutantTurkey | won't goes with will |
| MutantTurkey | don't goes with do |
| * l0ner doesn't really know english grammar | |
| MutantTurkey | its okay |
| l0ner | ok, thx ;) |
| MutantTurkey | it doesn't make sense because the opposite would be |
| MutantTurkey | do we going to port trinity to qt4 or don't? |
| MutantTurkey | that is not correct |
| * l0ner learned english watching cartoo network and using his pc | |
| l0ner | ok :) |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | that is good :-PP |
| l0ner | it's reality xD |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| wodim | nice, someone correcting english grammar |
| l0ner | actually I'm pretty amused myself that I was able to learn english by reading text in the games |
| wodim | actually not sarcasm |
| wodim | same |
| wodim | if i depended on what i learnt at school... |
| wodim | heh |
| l0ner | at school you don't learn how to speak language |
| l0ner | you learn it's grammar |
| wodim | its* |
| wodim | :P |
| wodim | and yes |
| l0ner | i learned german for 9 years |
| wodim | but meh, they give you a base |
| l0ner | and I can't say a word |
| wodim | what languages do you learn there at school? |
| l0ner | but i know it's grammar |
| l0ner | well... in poland i learned german |
| MutantTurkey | Ja? |
| wodim | the only think i can say in german is "mein kampf" |
| sobukus | Makes sense to be able to talk to neighbours. |
| wodim | and such |
| wodim | :p |
| l0ner | and in italy i was studying basic english.. thinks like "my name is..." or "i live in italy..." |
| l0ner | ja |
| sobukus | Though, my schooling chose the other side (french). |
| l0ner | yeah.. |
| MutantTurkey | mein kampfy sofa |
| l0ner | and since in poland i lived near polish-german border... |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: you should be the language supervisor :p |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | hint hint |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | xD |
| l0ner | I' |
| l0ner | I'd kill myself :P |
| sobukus | I do wonder how many teachers for the Polish language are there in Germany. |
| l0ner | none |
| wodim | btw |
| wodim | does base+libs contain the whole kde? |
| wodim | including konqueror, kwrite, konsole, kate... |
| l0ner | pretty much |
| sobukus | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/el5/trinity-3.5.13/RPMS/x86_64/repodata/filelists.sqlite.bz2 <--- why? |
| sobukus | eh |
| MutantTurkey | yeah pretty much |
| sobukus | : [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden |
| sobukus | Trying other mirror. |
| MutantTurkey | sobukus: huh |
| sobukus | that's the interesting part |
| l0ner | they don't include apps that are provided by other packages... like kdemultimedia |
| wodim | hmm |
| wodim | what about them? |
| wodim | (i don't think i'm using them but...) |
| l0ner | in our git |
| wodim | but not in packages? |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: kdebase is just the main main stuff |
| MutantTurkey | plenty of other stuff that gets missin |
| l0ner | and I won't upload them to aur before I really finished them |
| wodim | ok |
| sobukus | MutantTurkey: can it be that the mirror is currently updating? Suddenly I can access the filelist, but now the "Metadata file does not match checksum" |
| MutantTurkey | that is possible |
| MutantTurkey | check the sync time |
| MutantTurkey | usually a small file that called sync or something |
| * sobukus has that growing suspicion, no, conviction, that yum in RHEL sucks | |
| MutantTurkey | http://ftp.rezopole.net/tde/synctime for example |
| MutantTurkey | sobukus: growing suspicion that only pacman is sane |
| sobukus | hey, you should check my IRC cloak, sorcery rules;-) |
| MutantTurkey | sourcemage huh |
| MutantTurkey | is that still alive? |
| MutantTurkey | I see pacman + AUR the ultimate way to do everything |
| MutantTurkey | all unsupported apps are still easy to access and its a sane system for getting your stuff in a real repo |
| * l0ner likes emerge from gentoo... | |
| MutantTurkey | meh |
| MutantTurkey | gentoo = to much time |
| l0ner | lol |
| sobukus | MutantTurkey: Hm, well, I don't really want to go into the whole discussion here, but yes, sourcemage is alive, but it really doesn't aim for any kind of joe normal user |
| l0ner | meh was gentoo user for something like 3 years |
| sobukus | Francois responded that he uploaded packages to his server and others would sync |
| sobukus | I do wonder how, would I eventually get them from the URL my error message indicates or should I use another? |
| MutantTurkey | understood |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: do you remember which trinity components shouldn't be compiled over many cores? |
| MutantTurkey | they all can now. |
| MutantTurkey | i think |
| MutantTurkey | thats only automake |
| l0ner | so... theroetically i3 has 4 cores... |
| l0ner | -j5? |
| * sobukus hates hyperthreading | |
| sobukus | for building it might work somewhat |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| l0ner | I wan't to speed up build times |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| sobukus | but for numerics it is just annoying ... in any case, make sure you got lots of RAM with -j5 |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: j4 |
| MutantTurkey | the +1 rule is wrong |
| MutantTurkey | I read a very long benchmark article |
| MutantTurkey | -j4 is the best |
| sobukus | MutantTurkey: also with real cores or is it about ht cores? |
| MutantTurkey | the rule is 1 thread per core |
| MutantTurkey | HT as well |
| MutantTurkey | HT bumps performance like 25-30% |
| l0ner | okkk... thx :) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: look at your /etc/makepkg.conf |
| MutantTurkey | it's in there |
| MutantTurkey | can set it to always build with X cores |
| l0ner | i3 have 2 physical cores, 2 ht cores for one physical |
| l0ner | i know |
| MutantTurkey | so use -j4 |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | I actually used it gentoo |
| l0ner | tho it is defined in other file |
| l0ner | in gentoo: /etc/make.conf |
| sobukus | /etc/sorcery/local/config ;-) |
| * l0ner likes manually configured distros | |
| sobukus | but, well, back to yum... it troubles me that the trinity repos fail often at 'yum update' |
| sobukus | Should I write Francois about it? Is he the official Trinity Red Hat repo guy? |
| MutantTurkey | sobukus: yes and yes |
| MutantTurkey | we really need a "developers" page |
| sobukus | ok |
| MutantTurkey | so everyone knows who to talk too |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| l0ner | rather than developers: trinity team |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | no on the website |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/contributors.php |
| MutantTurkey | sort of |
| l0ner | yeah, i know |
| MutantTurkey | it's a rather incomplete list |
| l0ner | but rather than calling it developers call it "Trinity Team" and include everyone who contribute |
| MutantTurkey | lol I'm in "web tam" |
| MutantTurkey | team' |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: so you should take care of the website :P |
| MutantTurkey | lol ffkk |
| MutantTurkey | i like it how it is |
| MutantTurkey | . |
| * l0ner brings out minigun... | |
| l0ner | you said? |
| wodim | ==> Entering fakeroot environment... |
| wodim | ==> Starting package_trinity-kdebase()... |
| wodim | ==> Packaging - trinity-kdebase-3513 |
| wodim | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
| wodim | ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in package_trinity-kdebase(). |
| wodim | Aborting... |
| wodim | funny. |
| * MutantTurkey hides | |
| l0ner | I just stumbled upon the same thing |
| l0ner | wait... something slipped from the split pkgbuild |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: do you even try and build it all before pushing changes? xD |
| wodim | i told you not to split pkgbuilds |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: yes... mostly... sometimes.. no :P |
| l0ner | wodim: I know, but I needed to revert, and something got left |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | i'm sloppier than you |
| wodim | l0ner, ok, but PLEASE update the pkgrel |
| l0ner | wodim: this time I remembered LO |
| l0ner | :p |
| l0ner | wodim: updated |
| sobukus | Hey, a propos ... are you folks using the trinity compositor? |
| l0ner | D: |
| MutantTurkey | nope |
| l0ner | wut is dat? |
| MutantTurkey | Idon't use a compositor at all |
| MutantTurkey | kcompmgr |
| sobukus | I do wonder if it would be funny for the users or if it's just lame nowadays. |
| sobukus | But I do remember some usability issues when having it enabled ... and, hm, I _think_ I remember twin krash... eh... crashing on me with it. |
| MutantTurkey | heh |
| sobukus | I must warn you, for personal use I switched from KDE3 to fluxbox a long time ago. |
| sobukus | KDE was nice, but too big and slow for my machine. |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: btw: how much time your thinkpad holds on the battery? |
| MutantTurkey | uh |
| MutantTurkey | very long time on windows |
| MutantTurkey | 10 hours |
| MutantTurkey | at least |
| MutantTurkey | without wifi of course |
| l0ner | D: |
| MutantTurkey | with wifi, 8 |
| sobukus | is that a thinkpad with the extra underside battery? |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| * l0ner has 51minutes... | |
| MutantTurkey | it's just the 9 Cell |
| l0ner | with everything turned off |
| MutantTurkey | I am saving for the Slice as well |
| sobukus | which model? |
| MutantTurkey | then i'll get like 16+ hours |
| MutantTurkey | X220 |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| sobukus | hm, I got x200 with 9 cell |
| l0ner | how... much... does... it... cost... ? |
| sobukus | 10 yours is a bit of a stretch... but I tend to compile stuff and do computations |
| MutantTurkey | sobukus: yes exactly |
| MutantTurkey | thats the thing |
| sobukus | 10 hours, I mean |
| MutantTurkey | compiling with this - it sucks the life |
| MutantTurkey | it does very well watching film and stuff as well |
| MutantTurkey | I get about 1:20 per 10% without doing anything |
| sobukus | but it's still somewhat like the fastes machine I have ... I have to be impressed by the Core2Duo in there (especially compared to the earlier ULV Core2 I had) |
| MutantTurkey | mine is the i5 which is nice |
| MutantTurkey | I'm really glad I got a thinkpad |
| MutantTurkey | it's my first lappy and I love it |
| sobukus | I switched from Thinkpad X31 to a Toshiba R500 before... because it has sunlight-readable transflective screen |
| MutantTurkey | what do you mean? |
| sobukus | But I couldn't take the touchpad, noisy fan, bad keyboard anymore |
| MutantTurkey | the Matte is wayy more readable |
| MutantTurkey | then the glossy |
| MutantTurkey | the new IPS screens are sweet too |
| sobukus | the toshiba was readable without backlight in the sun |
| MutantTurkey | i prefer matte screens, but the color is definitely sub par |
| sobukus | I really would have liked to mod the toshiba screen into the X200 |
| MutantTurkey | I work with my thinkpad outside often, it's not terrible |
| sobukus | well, but you need to seek the shadow |
| l0ner | for me it's the second laptop i have |
| l0ner | and i hate it |
| sobukus | with the transflective screen, you seek the sun;-) |
| l0ner | i had acer travelmate 2424 |
| MutantTurkey | it can take direct light well, the matte diffuses sunligt |
| sobukus | But anyhow, Thinkpad rules. Far better to work with and can take abuse. |
| sobukus | Except that pesky hdd cover that seems to be designed to break and fall off. |
| sobukus | Oh, and I'll keep the X200 for some time to come... it's the last Thinkpad that does not have such a damned touchpad. |
| MutantTurkey | you don't like the touchpads? |
| MutantTurkey | I think mine works well |
| MutantTurkey | I prefer the nub anyhow |
| l0ner | damn.... |
| MutantTurkey | yes? |
| l0ner | mu screen session wont accept input anymore |
| l0ner | *my |
| MutantTurkey | why not? |
| MutantTurkey | did it freeze or something? |
| l0ner | dunno |
| l0ner | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | weird |
| sobukus | MutantTurkey: I dislike _all_ touchpads;-) |
| l0ner | it wont accept any input |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | well thne the nub works well enough |
| MutantTurkey | touchpads I find are better for using while driving |
| MutantTurkey | lots of bumps |
| MutantTurkey | it's less sensitive |
| l0ner | wodim: updated kdebase: fixed incorrectly generated starttrinity link |
| *** l0ner is now known as l0ner|away | |
| * l0ner|away is away: Gone away for now | |
| *** MutantTurkey has quit IRC | |
| *** MutantTurkey has joined #trinity-desktop | |
| wodim | l0ner|away, are you fucking kidding? i've compiled kdebase three times |
| wodim | well |
| wodim | at least i won't use it |
| wodim | i mean, starttrinity |
| wodim | /tmp/alpm_mYXMin/.INSTALL: line 3: mkpamserv: command not found |
| wodim | ? |
| * sobukus curses at RHEL and yum | |
| l0ner|away | wodim: fsck |
| l0ner|away | why it didn't happen on my system? |
| l0ner|away | oh, I know |
| l0ner|away | wodim: do as root /opt/trinity/bin/mkpamserv trinity |
| *** l0ner|away is now known as l0ner | |
| * l0ner is back. | |
| MutantTurkey | whats up |
| l0ner | not much |
| MutantTurkey | mkpamserv |
| l0ner | generates pam rules |
| l0ner | I wrote to the ML abouot this |
| l0ner | no reply |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| wodim | whats the name of the control center executable? |
| wodim | it wont open |
| MutantTurkey | does it work? |
| MutantTurkey | KControl |
| MutantTurkey | kcontrol |
| l0ner | for me kcontrol works |
| MutantTurkey | me as well |
| wodim | it works when typing kcontrol on konsole |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: it's all about your patth |
| MutantTurkey | thats why |
| wodim | but not when clicking it int he K menu |
| MutantTurkey | is it in your path correctly? |
| l0ner | wodim: try rebooting, you need to update path |
| wodim | dunno but |
| wodim | why do you install on /opt_ |
| wodim | ? |
| wodim | theres a real reason for it? |
| wodim | its a pita |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: why we were installing it there? I don't remember? |
| l0ner | oh, yes... kde4/qt4 compatibility |
| l0ner | kde4 and trnity uses the same names for some applications |
| l0ner | installation of trinity when kde4 is present will overwrite kde4 apps |
| MutantTurkey | yeah majorly real reason |
| MutantTurkey | is the names |
| MutantTurkey | very importanty |
| MutantTurkey | plus easier |
| l0ner | and if kde4 is installed over existing trinity installation, the trinity apps will be overwritten |
| MutantTurkey | welll a lot of file conflicts |
| l0ner | yeah, and this is the main reason |
| l0ner | and renaming will take some time |
| wodim | kdm-trinity doesnt see the trinity sesion |
| wodim | session |
| wodim | so im using gdm |
| wodim | and the control center still doesnt appear |
| l0ner | ruin it in kosole and see what it outputs |
| l0ner | *run |
| wodim | nothing strange |
| wodim | it just runs |
| wodim | the same with konqueror |
| MutantTurkey | whut whut whut |
| wodim | "configure konsole" wont open either |
| MutantTurkey | probably because kcmshell isn't working right |
| MutantTurkey | if kcontrol isnt |
| MutantTurkey | I think it does back to the paths |
| l0ner | about acessing kcontrol from menu: it doesn't start neither for me |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | when you manually start it, do modules come up properly? |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | and the error is curoious |
| l0ner | (tracker-miner-fs:29361): Tracker-WARNING **: Couldn't properly parse desktop file 'file:///home/soltys/.local/share/applications/KDE%20Control%20Center.desktop': 'Couldn't load desktop file:'/home/soltys/.local/share/applications/KDE Control Center.desktop'' |
| MutantTurkey | wonder wine |
| MutantTurkey | wha tis tracker-miner-fs? |
| MutantTurkey | wiat |
| MutantTurkey | wiat |
| MutantTurkey | wait wait |
| MutantTurkey | hold up |
| MutantTurkey | run kconf_update |
| MutantTurkey | see if it helps |
| l0ner | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/547955/ |
| MutantTurkey | did you try kconf? |
| MutantTurkey | update |
| l0ner | yes |
| l0ner | no output |
| MutantTurkey | nothing? |
| l0ner | nothing |
| MutantTurkey | it doesn't |
| l0ner | on kconf_update -v it displays qt, kde, and kconf update versions |
| MutantTurkey | afaik |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | huhhh |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno |
| MutantTurkey | ML! |
| MutantTurkey | I feel like darrell will know :-) |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | nevermind totally unrelated |
| MutantTurkey | I got it confused I think with something elose |
| MutantTurkey | what is Tracker? |
| l0ner | tracker? |
| l0ner | oh, dunno |
| l0ner | i got those errors in console |
| l0ner | i run trinity nested in xephyr |
| l0ner | i have a script that runs trinity in a nestes x session |
| MutantTurkey | shouldn't be rlated |
| l0ner | and outputs everything that happens to the konsole i've run it from |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| wodim | "stable" |
| wodim | :D |
| l0ner | wha said trinity was stable? |
| wodim | i'd open firefox to give you the link |
| wodim | but it won't open |
| l0ner | wodim: do you have icons in the trinity menu? |
| MutantTurkey | pfft stable? |
| wodim | no l0ner |
| l0ner | ok, so it's something in the code |
| l0ner | I'll look it up |
| l0ner | but first I'll clean my hdd, i"m running low on space |
| l0ner | and reboot |
| l0ner | and we'll see |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| sobukus | damn... trinity needs libtool 2.2? |
| sobukus | my RHEL install doesn't like that |
| MutantTurkey | whats wrong with that? |
| sobukus | one reason for lots of conflict / dependency failure messages on an attempt to update the system |
| sobukus | RHEL 5 has libtool 1.5 installed |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | still in the dark ages? |
| sobukus | and packages depend on it |
| l0ner | aaaah... NIN |
| sobukus | I only have RHEL 5.6 here because there is certain 3rd party software that is certified for this version |
| wodim | just don't use that |
| sobukus | NIN? |
| l0ner | Nine Inch Nails |
| MutantTurkey | Nine Inch Noodles |
| sobukus | Ninjas Invade Nanking |
| l0ner | xD |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| sobukus | Well, I bugged Francois about that issue, too. Perhaps he has a good response. |
| sobukus | I guess he'll be fed up with me rather quickly:-/ |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | testers are good |
| MutantTurkey | because people like me and loner and francis can't account for all paths taken, so people testing it actually shows bugs, and that gives us opportunitties to fix |
| l0ner | true story |
| sobukus | well, I must say you do get bonus for being very responsive here, but I am still questioning myself if Trinity has a future perspective |
| sobukus | This year will show a lot about that, I guess. |
| MutantTurkey | hurm? |
| MutantTurkey | we are 3 releases in with 4 years+ running |
| MutantTurkey | I mean honestly people what does it take to make you happy! :P |
| sobukus | well, not having bugs like kdm eating all cpu:-/ |
| sobukus | btw, did you folks come to terms with Martin Gräßling? |
| wodim | what happend with him? |
| sobukus | Well, he argues quite a lot about how pointless your current approach is;-) |
| wodim | aha |
| sobukus | But what I mean is the contact attempt he did about hm, was it kdm, even? |
| wodim | i personally think he is one of the less competents kde contributors |
| sobukus | about sharing code |
| sobukus | but you have to see his point that the rather small team will have a hard time keeping all that code going |
| wodim | so what's his solution |
| wodim | using his crappy code |
| sobukus | considering that lots of developers did not manage to make kde4 usable in years;-) |
| wodim | ask him why is kwin slower than gnome-shell and compiz |
| wodim | after years of kde4 |
| wodim | i'm sure he doesn't know what's the answer |
| wodim | or he'll blame the drivers |
| MutantTurkey | sobukus: I have talked to him |
| MutantTurkey | he isn't so bad |
| sobukus | hm, there was something on his blog ... well, also witht he hint that you should use kde 4.7.2 befor complaining about kwin |
| wodim | i have 4.8 |
| wodim | and it's still bad |
| MutantTurkey | let's not bash him |
| wodim | try to scroll inside an application |
| sobukus | heh |
| wodim | you'll notice the lag |
| sobukus | about scroll lag |
| MutantTurkey | wait wait wait I am at work... yet i want to talk |
| sobukus | that was the final straw that let me away from kde3 all those years ago, I used kate |
| MutantTurkey | Martin thinks we need to use kde4 components and reuse code to make it easier |
| MutantTurkey | in theory |
| sobukus | and scrolling text in kate lagged; including the "continue scrolling even long after the key has been released" |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know his endgame |
| wodim | im not bashing here, hes not here |
| MutantTurkey | I do think kwin4 is not bad with 4.8 |
| MutantTurkey | it works great on my laptop |
| wodim | try kmail then |
| wodim | and you'll feel the pain |
| MutantTurkey | i refuse. |
| sobukus | Well, I once had kde 4 nearly set up for my family to replace kde 3.5 |
| wodim | i *need* a mail application |
| sobukus | kmail could be configured to be similar enough |
| sobukus | but what really pissed me off and broke the deal was the defunct Kaddressbook |
| sobukus | categories being removed for _many_ releases |
| sobukus | and with 4.7 (or was it even 4.8) I tried it in a test install and kmail wasn't able to communicate properly with the address book |
| wodim | kontact sucks |
| wodim | kwin sucks |
| wodim | plasma sucks |
| sobukus | That was something that worked nicely in 3.5 and was horribly broken in 4.x. |
| MutantTurkey | okay guys... |
| sobukus | hehe |
| MutantTurkey | bashers please go that way -> |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | we all know our feelings... |
| sobukus | Well, I was actually saying that we nearly were OK with kde4. |
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| sobukus | Just the kontact categories being removed broke the deal. |
| MutantTurkey | no need to bash |
| sobukus | Now, I must admit the trinity packages for the debian install for my family somehow weren't that comfortable; the desktop itself didn't integrate well (we used LXDE with trinity apps for a while) |
| MutantTurkey | oh god why? |
| sobukus | stuff like removable media was subtly broken with trinity - konqueror |
| l0ner | blame hal? |
| sobukus | possibly |
| MutantTurkey | blame using not all of trinity |
| MutantTurkey | i say all or none |
| sobukus | well, we _were_ using all of it at first |
| l0ner | actually this don't work for me |
| MutantTurkey | sobukus: and? |
| sobukus | switched to lxde, then removable drives worked properly in the file manager |
| sobukus | On the RHEL box here, that stuff works with trinity. |
| sobukus | Dunno what was really broken back then. |
| sobukus | Now that they are migrated (breathe slowly...) to ubuntu with Gnome 2 / evolution, it's a bit late to switch to trinity again. Those folks are users. They don't want to re-learn all the time. |
| sobukus | We'll talk again when ubuntu 10.04 LTS is EOL ... unity or trinity version 15? |
| sobukus | Oh, and one general observation regarding Qt3 vs. Qt4 ... and soon Qt5 ... doesn't it suck having to re-write your app then the toolkit gets an upgrade? I mean, wasn't the purpose of toolkits to spare you from writing code? |
| wodim | hm |
| MutantTurkey | Qt3 is faster than Qt4 as I se eit |
| wodim | no |
| sobukus | Damn, I got one note about KWin, too ... my sister's laptop is running kubuntu 10.04 (so KDE 4.3 or 4.4) and there the experinence is much snappier using KDE+openbox instead of kwin |
| wodim | plastique is faster than oxygen |
| sobukus | I got one simple benchmark: Press Alt+Tab ... if it takes any amount of noticeable time to show the window switcher, the window manager is in danger of being called "slow". |
| MutantTurkey | wodim: what do you mean no? |
| wodim | 22:14:13 MutantTurkey> Qt3 is faster than Qt4 as I se eit |
| wodim | 22:14:28 <wodim> no |
| wodim | 22:14:34 <wodim> plastique is faster than oxygen |
| MutantTurkey | why do you think it isn't faster? |
| MutantTurkey | i am talking about the altogether overhead and display performance |
| wodim | well i talk about oxygen and plastique |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | the themes are changable though |
| wodim | yep |
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| wodim | but if you have the oportunity of using kde 4 again, try switching to plastique |
| MutantTurkey | either way |
| MutantTurkey | we should focusing on improving Qt3 performance |
| MutantTurkey | I want to get some better testing done |
| MutantTurkey | find performance issues |
| MutantTurkey | and solve |
| l0ner | damn.. 1h until i can reboot |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| l0ner | I'm moving all the movies and anime I had on my laptop to external hdd |
| l0ner | over usb 1.1 |
| l0ner | -_- |
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| l0ner | well... I might as well go to sleep |
| l0ner | and wake up earlier tommorow |
| sobukus | man, those trinity red hat repos are not well |
| sobukus | I hope Francois gets to the bottom of those |
| sobukus | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/el5/trinity-3.5.13/SRPMS/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden |
| sobukus | Trying other mirror. |
| sobukus | Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: trinity-3.5.13-el5-source. Please verify its path and try again |
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| sobukus | oh, this sucks... trinity-extras blocks _anything_ |
| sobukus | yum just does not like that repo |
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| gnome3-sucks-133 | Good evening! |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | What's the best way to install trinity on debian wheezy (testing)? |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | i n33d halp! |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | Hi MutantTurkey! |
| MutantTurkey | gnome3-sucks-133: I'll be back later but I don't think wheezy is yet supported |
| sobukus | That's h3y;-) |
| MutantTurkey | I am late for the train |
| MutantTurkey | for R14 it will be |
| MutantTurkey | dunno |
| MutantTurkey | maybe you can custom compile |
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| gnome3-sucks-133 | uh no... :-( |
| sobukus | dunno how well the debs for squeeze would work... |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | I gonna kill myself -.- |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | That's an awful situation... |
| sobukus | well... there are binaries for current ubuntu... |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | I really need a timemachine to teleport myself back to 2010... |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | i tried them out but trinity is just a PITA these days :-( |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | mirrors are slow, 404-ing, and so on... |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | trinity got even worse with their new versions... trinity 3.5.11 rocked. it was so solid... and now.. :-( |
| sobukus | hear, hear |
| sobukus | well, they promise a lot for R14 |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | What I need is a OOB (out-of-the-box) trinity, that just works... |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | yeah, like politicans... |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | That's sooo sad :'( |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | nevermind... |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | have a nice day! |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | sorry for flaming...i'm just fed up with the whole desktop-linux thing... |
| gnome3-sucks-133 | by3 |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=851 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdebase: splash image branding issues |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner|sleep|PM: around? |
| MutantTurkey | NO SLEEPING |
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| MutantTurkey | david: hello! |
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| Guest66320 | hello |
| MutantTurkey | I am actually starting to wonder if the etherpad is capable of holding all of this information sanely |
| Guest66320 | Told you I would be guest0850348 |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | unfortunately tables don't exist for etherpad... |
| Guest66320 | I think it is, it just has to have the brainstorming sessions filtered into final revisions. |
| Guest66320 | It's more a matter of getting all the ideas out and then culling the good ones for discussion and approval |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | we need to weed out what is good and bad |
| MutantTurkey | definitely prototypes are in order |
| MutantTurkey | it's easy to say X is better than Y, but once you test it out... often ideas change |
| Guest66320 | I think turning what we get on etherpad into a tree type proposal will go a long way to get the apps sorted into subgroups |
| MutantTurkey | by next week I am going to start organizing it a few more ways |
| Guest66320 | I have to pick up building again. I just pulled the latest github and will start working with it shortly |
| MutantTurkey | A group for "this will definitely change" eg rename peripherals to hardware. maybe "lets add a new window to X" NO " this idea sucks" |
| MutantTurkey | Guest66320: github? |
| MutantTurkey | and are we talking Arch? |
| Guest66320 | git/where whatever svn was replaced with for trinity |
| MutantTurkey | Pawel l0ner|sleep|PM has mostly been working on it, i've been doing some small technical guidance |
| Guest66320 | It was slow as hell - no bandwidth |
| MutantTurkey | mostly staying out of it |
| MutantTurkey | Guest66320: welcome to my #1 pet peave |
| Guest66320 | No doubt. Just this last week on Arch libpng 1.5.8 and audiofile 3.3 really screwed the 3.5.12 build, so it is time to build again. |
| MutantTurkey | I saw your posts on Arch ML |
| Guest66320 | Yes, love Arch, but if your desktop isn't supported, they don't worry about breaking it :) |
| MutantTurkey | I am talking to kaiting chen about getting a mirror on his host |
| MutantTurkey | that way we won't be bogged down, or be bogging down trinities main mirror |
| Guest66320 | He has good bandwidth. |
| MutantTurkey | Guest66320: my goal is to have offical TDE support for Arch by R14. then get Arch to support TDE... |
| MutantTurkey | Guest66320: yep. |
| Guest66320 | What happend with hosting on kde.org? Black sheeped Tim? |
| MutantTurkey | no. |
| MutantTurkey | our decision |
| MutantTurkey | kde svn sucked for a few reason |
| Guest66320 | I'll have to figure out PKGBUILDs with git :) |
| MutantTurkey | 1) only he had access to it, he couldn't do write priveleges to allow others to help 2) we needed a repo for packaging 3) git allows us to do more cool stuff with submodules and such 4) git is faster 5) svn sucks |
| MutantTurkey | a whole host of reasons |
| MutantTurkey | 6) self hosting is better - it shows our strength |
| Guest66320 | Administration - that makes sense. |
| MutantTurkey | also it lets us do it how we want |
| Guest66320 | It looks like the gcc 4.6.2 update broke the old qt3(d) build. I tried today and rand into QSTRING isssues. |
| MutantTurkey | we also maintain Qt3 now |
| Guest66320 | I know - that is a big one. Qt4, while I know it is inevitable, just looks awful from a widget, etc. standpoint. |
| Guest66320 | I hope we can preserve the Qt3 feel. Heck, you can't even make columns that resize correctly in Qt4. |
| MutantTurkey | it's crappy |
| MutantTurkey | it's crappy |
| MutantTurkey | Qt4 is crappy |
| MutantTurkey | we need to make a good stand for it |
| MutantTurkey | A in depth technical writeup about Qt3's advantages |
| MutantTurkey | so everyone will stfu |
| Guest66320 | A screenshot of kde4 next to kde3 should do it :) |
| MutantTurkey | then we need to improve Qt3 (we already are) |
| MutantTurkey | Guest66320: seriously though, we need hard facts |
| Guest66320 | I've never run into it's shortcomings. Why we need Qt4 is beyond me. What the F, can't Qt3 do? |
| Guest66320 | In opensource it seems like someone says "hey, I've got this great idea for Version 'X+1' everybody buy in! Then 4 years later we are still trying to get the damn thing to work just to get back to getting work done... |
| Guest66320 | I think the only problem with Qt3 is maintainability with the gcc updates. That isn't a Qt3 problem at all it is a manpower problem. Every widget set has the same issue. The only difference is how many monkeys one app has to keep current verses the other. Qt3/Qt4... |
| Guest66320 | Who knows. All we each can do it do our part to help where we can. |
| MutantTurkey | I have no idea |
| MutantTurkey | we've only run into issues with Qt4 |
| MutantTurkey | Qt43 has speed advantages and uses less memory |
| MutantTurkey | and apparently can do more |
| Guest66320 | You just have to pick who you want to dance with and go with that one. I've got to get the kids in bed. I'll finish adding thoughts to the etherpad tonight and then we can try distill the input down into a tree of what an updated kcontrol would look like. I'll drop back by in 20 minutes or so. |
| MutantTurkey | we really need a technical write up of all of our projects |
| MutantTurkey | Guest66320: thanks for dropping by, any issues with the build you can hit me or l0ner up. |
| Guest66320 | Divide and conquer. Slice it up into bite size pieces and issue assignments. I'll take my share. I'll be back in a bit. |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
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| Guest66320 | Calvin, since kcontol reorg is similar to the KDE menu layout discussion from last year, I think it helps to visually look at proposals side-by-side. This is where the etherpad table limitation really hurts. I've created a text tree of my current kcontrol layout at http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/doc/kcontol-layout.html What I'll do is finish adding thoughts in the etherpad and then let's see if we can't generate a proposal to pu |
| Guest66320 | t next to the original. I'll dump it into a html table. Let's pick it up tomorrow or Fri. I'm hitting the rack... |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| MutantTurkey | sorry I am like really needing of sleep |
| MutantTurkey | Guest66320: yeah me hitting rack too :-) |
| MutantTurkey | hitting the hay |
| MutantTurkey | but I think this is a better way to look at it |
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| drankin | did it work? |
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| K`zan | Hi folks, I think there is something screwy with ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net. Trying to install Trinity on Ubuntu 11.10 tonight and it has been slow enough to time out often and now I can't even get there. Looks like the install I have is corrupt, everytime I go for "system" in the menu it blows something out of the water, try it twice and I loose the desktop. |
| K`zan | Gonna call it quits for tonight, will try again tomorrow. |
| K`zan | Also, was trying to get the backtrace for you but for whatever reason it didn't generate one. |
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| K`zan | Thanks for your efforts! |
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| sobukus | Man, I guess I have to bug francois even more |
| sobukus | The trinity-extras repository conflicts heavily with other things. |
| sobukus | One is forcing libtool 2.2, which breaks gnome-games (ok, not so tough), but also other repo's packages that happen to link to libltdl. |
| sobukus | Then, there is the bummer that I cannot install wine anymore. Wine needs gphoto2-2.2 ... trinity-extras installs libgphoto2-2.4, which replaces the former, but does not make wine happy. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 852 filed by dzfixes-box1@yahoo.co.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=852 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesu - files get written to user's ~ owned by root |
| sobukus | Man, I have to get rid of trinity's libgphoto2 ... it doesn't even have a 32 bit version, needed for wine |
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| Z_God_Z | sobukus: gphoto 2.4 seems newer though |
| Z_God_Z | I guess you'd better recompile wine against the newer gphoto |
| sobukus | Z_God_Z: It's more than that... I also need 32 bit gphoto |
| Z_God_Z | it should be in a separate package |
| Z_God_Z | I suppose |
| sobukus | so, trinity-devel should actually provide 64 and 32 bit libgphoto2, so that ideally the requirement for wine from epel is still fulfilleed |
| sobukus | there is .x86-64 package and .i386 |
| sobukus | yum manages them together somehow |
| Z_God_Z | I'm sure trinity has both 32-bit and 64-bit packages in general |
| sobukus | I actually contemplated ditching this rpm repo mess and putting something like pkgsrc on the box |
| sobukus | Z_God_Z: then I guess this is an omission |
| sobukus | I'll ask francois about fixing it ... but I am not yet sure if this would actually be compatible to epel's old gphoto |
| sobukus | generally, it is a good idea not to conflict with epel on red hat systems |
| Z_God_Z | ok |
| sobukus | damn, I just needed ksnapshot, then kuickshow ... those are not installed when I exclude the libgphoto2 from trinity-extras |
| sobukus | installing separate libgphoto packages into /opt/trinity might be a good idea |
| Z_God_Z | you could also ask him to compile against the older gphoto |
| Z_God_Z | or ask why he upgraded gphoto at least |
| sobukus | yup, just using the older one would be best... but in the libtool case he meant "it is just too old" |
| sobukus | if one wants to be fully straight about it, one would have to say that RHEL5 is tool old for trinity:-( |
| Z_God_Z | I wonder if gphoto is still as important as it used to be |
| Z_God_Z | I least I do not see it used much anymore |
| sobukus | well, that's part of why this sucks: I don't intend to do anything that requires special digital kamera access |
| Z_God_Z | most camera works as a USB mass storage devices nowadays |
| sobukus | but I still want to use kdegraphics |
| Z_God_Z | and wine |
| sobukus | so at least, it should be loaded on demand, as a plugin |
| Z_God_Z | such hard dependencies are not good indeed |
| sobukus | hm, right, why does wine need gphoto |
| sobukus | I cannot think of a good reason |
| Z_God_Z | same reason |
| Z_God_Z | provide camera access to apps |
| sobukus | wine doesn't support USB |
| Z_God_Z | that's another level |
| Z_God_Z | when your camera is supported by gphoto, you can use it with windows apps in wine |
| Z_God_Z | there's no need to have usb support in wine for that |
| sobukus | what kind of API is behind that? Some TWAIN stuff? |
| Z_God_Z | I think yes |
| Z_God_Z | on windows, cameras and also scanners are a *huge* mess |
| Z_God_Z | they all provide their own interface to work with them |
| sobukus | heh, scanning was one thing that worked far superior in Linux when I switched |
| Z_God_Z | so when your hardware breaks and you need to use smth else, you need to learn a new piece of software again (which is not so easy for everybody) |
| sobukus | I wouldn't imagining running somthing in wine for that |
| sobukus | but I guess it's about Photoshop, then |
| Z_God_Z | exactly |
| Z_God_Z | there are lots of people using photoshop in wine |
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| edakiri | GNU/Linux works much worse for my scanner. TWAIN now exists for Linux. Canon scanners support TWAIN on linux & they made an app for scanning in TWAIN on linux. |
| edakiri | No, not Canon! |
| edakiri | Kodak. |
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| K`zan | Still having problems with the install. Attempting to select either System or Setting from the K menu (just hovering, never get to the actual menus) I get the KDE Panel - The KDE Crash handler - unable to get a backtrace (built or stack frame seriously corrupted in the crash). Closing that and going back and trying to get either of those menu items again, I loose everything to do with the desktop only thing I can do is right-clic |
| K`zan | k and logout and back in - same on subsequent attempts. |
| K`zan | Last night the install was running abysmally slow and I suspect I may have a corrupt install, going to try "aptitude reinstall kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity" and see if that takes care of the problem. Further reports to follow. |
| K`zan | Doesn't look like that works... |
| K`zan | Nope. Going to start from scratch, wipe, reinstall Ubuntu 11.10 and try Trinity again. |
| K`zan | Ah, yes, blows out on a signal 6... |
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| MutantTurkey | so sick of ubuntu sucking |
| K`zan | Doesn't look like TDE works with Ubuntu 11.10 :-(. reinstall ubuntu and tde from scratch and get same errors and effects as before :-(. |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I just hate it... |
| MutantTurkey | it's crap |
| K`zan | Looks like I'll have to roll back to Ubuntu 10.10 where it does work (running it now). |
| MutantTurkey | everything breaks all the time |
| MutantTurkey | the system is a joke completely |
| K`zan | Ubuntu, yeah well. |
| MutantTurkey | I'm so glad I'm not a ubuntu user |
| K`zan | Nah, working fine in U10.10. |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | but my ubuntu system I use for trinity testng |
| MutantTurkey | wtf |
| MutantTurkey | it's pathetic |
| K`zan | It works here, with MUCH less heartache and headache than any other distros I have tried. |
| K`zan | Putting this together for a disabled person who has deb5 and it is getting awfully long in the tooth. |
| K`zan | Kind of weird that it blows out in the main menu. This time it did get to the secondary menu before going toes up. |
| K`zan | Once :) |
| K`zan | logout and back in, I get the desktop back. |
| l0ner|away | MutantTurkey: trinity testing? |
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| K`zan | Only the system and settings menus though. |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: can't you test on arch? |
| K`zan | Just roll over either of those abd kicker crashes. |
| K`zan | Any reports on 10.04 LTS? |
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| K`zan | Anyone know what those two images with trinity already installed are? Which version of Ubuntu? |
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| K`zan | No, well I have a fat pipe, will be like the stuff the US Congress does, got to run it to find out :-). |
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| Z_God | K`zan: it's either lucid or maverick |
| K`zan | Thanks! |
| K`zan | Setting this up for a disabled person and was (am) concerned with longevity, she has deb5 and it has an increasing number of problems. |
| K`zan | Actually, if you follow that link it tells you :-). U10.10. |
| Z_God | better get the lucid version then |
| Z_God | maverick already doesn't have support anymore |
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| Z_God | K`zan: I also still install Ubuntu Lucid + Trinity for all the people I support |
| Z_God | it's quite stable and should have more than a year of official updates left |
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| K`zan | Z_God: Thanks for the pointer there. Just got through installing from the desktop image (10.10) on your site but may change it over and do it again simply for the support issues. |
| K`zan | Mousing over the system and utilities there doesn't blow the desktop out :-). |
| Z_God | K`zan: hmm, yes maverick will not get any security updates anymore |
| K`zan | Sigh :-). |
| Z_God | 10.10 == maverick, 10.04 is lucid, an LTS version |
| K`zan | One more time on the old CD :). |
| Z_God | the non-LTS versions of ubuntu only get updates for one year |
| Z_God | the LTS versions for 3/5 years |
| K`zan | Good point, I'm on 10.10 on this box too... |
| Z_God | if you have a fast connection, you can also use a netinstaller |
| K`zan | Nice FAT pipe :). |
| Z_God | it'll save you some time with updating |
| Z_God | because the images are quite old |
| K`zan | Would rather have the CD just in case. Old fashioned I guess :-/ |
| Z_God | both are useful :) |
| Z_God | but you could install a command-line only system |
| K`zan | Lots of updates for sure. |
| Z_God | and then follow the instructions on the site to add only trinity to it |
| Z_God | you have the advantage you get 3.5.13 then, the cd will give you 3.5.11 and the upgrade is a bit tricky |
| K`zan | True, but it is always nice to have a fallback UI too. |
| Z_God | yes, the lucid cd will work fine |
| K`zan | I have absolutely no idea what version of Trinity I have, haven't seen updates for it forever now. |
| Z_God | yes the newer version was put in another repository for some reason |
| Z_God | the changes aren't huge though |
| Z_God | the next LTS will be precise btw, 12.04 |
| Z_God | I'm running it already on my own system, but there are still many bugs (and no official trinity yet) |
| K`zan | As highly customized as I have this, I am loath to change it... |
| Z_God | should be all fixed in april though |
| Z_God | yeah, I also tend to stick with LTS releases in general, otherwise it's just too much to support |
| K`zan | That should give me some time to contemplate. |
| K`zan | /dev/sda2 23G 8.1G 14G 38% / |
| K`zan | LOTS of stuff.... |
| Z_God | many installed packages? |
| K`zan | MANY |
| Z_God | you can just make a list & reinstall them again |
| K`zan | I have a script to pick them all up so I can feed them into apt. |
| Z_God | yep, exactly :) |
| K`zan | Eeeekkkk, not there, |
| Z_God | sorry? |
| K`zan | Ah, right on the old deb5 install... Whew |
| K`zan | dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages |
| K`zan | Move that to new machine and : |
| K`zan | dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade |
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| Z_God | sure :) |
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| MutantTurkey | woop |
| K`zan | Z_God: Snarfing 10.04 now :). Thanks much! |
| Z_God | K`zan: no problem :) |
| MutantTurkey | oh goodness |
| K`zan | Break time, haven't been out of this chair most of the day! |
| MutantTurkey | network manager goes to hell after natty |
| Z_God | I'm off to bed here |
| Z_God | good night all! |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: yeah I run gnome's version on precise, works fine in trinity |
| MutantTurkey | really? mine's pretty crappy on oneiric |
| MutantTurkey | like 100% crappy actually |
| MutantTurkey | I use wicd now |
| Z_God | it works with wired & wireless with wpa2psk here at least |
| Z_God | and it seems to save settings systemwide now, so the system also connects when I do not log in :) |
| MutantTurkey | I've got a sketchy realtek card |
| MutantTurkey | the driver is pretty much crap |
| MutantTurkey | so basically my connection drops frequently |
| MutantTurkey | and nm doesn't play nicely with that |
| MutantTurkey | at all |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 675 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=675 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, startkde (starttde) needs updating |
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| sobukus | damn, updated packages still not in trinity el5 repo |
| * sobukus just found Francois' personal mirror | |
| * sobukus hit a roadblock installing the single package | |
| * sobukus was stupid, el5, not el6 | |
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| Cmdr_Zod | I just upgraded Debian from lenny to squeeze and switched to Trinity. Is there a way to keep my old config from KDE 3.5? |
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| Z_God | Cmdr_Zod: moving/linking your .kde or .kde3 to .trinity should do the trick |
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| yetifoot | at the moment tde uses "TDE_FULL_SESSION=true" in the environment variables, but some software looks for KDE_FULL_SESSION I reported this bug to the software that caused me a problem, but they didn't fix it. is it an ok idea to add KDE_FULL_SESSION to my environment, and could TDE possibly do this also for compatibility purposes? |
| Z_God | yetifoot: which software looks for this? |
| yetifoot | miro |
| Z_God | what's that? |
| yetifoot | a media player/rss program |
| yetifoot | gets podcasts etc |
| Z_God | in what way does it work differently when that variable is set? |
| yetifoot | they use this to decide how to open a browser, if KDE_FULL.. is found, they use kfmclient exec, if not they fall back to gnome-open |
| yetifoot | http://pastebin.com/hVQGcQmt |
| yetifoot | here's the bug report i made to them http://bugzilla.pculture.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18472 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 18472: was not found. |
| Z_God | yetifoot: they use the wrong thing to find the default browser |
| Z_God | I suppose there is a fd.org spec for that that they'd better use |
| Z_God | there is a good chance that trinity's kfmclient will even be renamed in the future to something like tfmclient to allow installation next to kde |
| Z_God | so even if trinity would add this variable, it would not solve the problem |
| yetifoot | ok, yeah, i see a few sites recommend this detection method, but it doesn't shock me that it's wrong hah |
| yetifoot | oh no, fd.org recommend xdg-open |
| yetifoot | i had some problems with that recently |
| yetifoot | hah |
| yetifoot | maybe that's why they aren't using it |
| Z_God | I guess the solution would be solving the issue with xdg-open and letting miro use that |
| yetifoot | yeah |
| yetifoot | this is not the first time they have been unresponsive though, i don't expect them to fix this |
| yetifoot | i might fork it |
| yetifoot | my personal version is much better than their official one now |
| Z_God | if you have clean patches, they are not accepted? |
| yetifoot | yeah, it's one of those projects, where they always say something like "we are rewrting the whole codebase soon so we won't apply this" |
| yetifoot | but then they never do |
| Z_God | right.. |
| yetifoot | when a file association is changed in tde, should that change the mimeopen, run-mailcap settings also? |
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| Z_God | yetifoot: no idea |
| Z_God | I suppose it would be good if there would be more interaction, but I never looked much at these details myself |
| yetifoot | yeah, i'm digging in now, trying to solve my xdg-open issues |
| yetifoot | it's the strace from hell |
| yetifoot | on this box xdg-open never looks at kde settings/kde-open, but on a friends it does |
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| Z_God | yetifoot: good luck!! |
| yetifoot | thanks! |
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| Cmdr_Zod | Z_God: Thank you |
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| Z_God | Cmdr_Zod: np :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 853 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=853 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdebase: Using konsole as root is hard-coded to sudo |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 824 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=824 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDM cannot start other WMs except TDE |
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| MutantTurkey | Z_God: how many people by Z_God post on martin graesslins posts? |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: I only posted twice on his blog |
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| MutantTurkey | I am using KDE 4.8 now on my arch installation, but I am finding it to be mediocre at best |
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| l0ner | hi guys! |
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| MutantTurkey | oh martin why do you do this to me |
| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: LOL |
| MutantTurkey | L0ner are you around? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: sigh lol |
| * Xu_R can't respond to that without insulting somehow | |
| MutantTurkey | I know |
| MutantTurkey | I just... |
| MutantTurkey | sigh |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: LOL |
| MutantTurkey | "Plus [GNOME] has one of the most hideous and least usable file open/save dialogs in the known universe. There are alien species in distant galaxies that interact with their computers by flinging fresh excrement (a bit like YouTube commenters) who have a better file open/save interface than Gnome's" |
| Xu_R | *checks email* |
| Xu_R | LOL wow that is the most well written statement I have ever seen. |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | I know right |
| MutantTurkey | some serious "flinging fresh excrement" |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: honestly I love when users stand up for the project |
| Xu_R | just makes it all worthwhile |
| * Xu_R wonders if this made it to reddit yet... | |
| Xu_R | :P |
| MutantTurkey | It did |
| MutantTurkey | its on /r/KDE |
| MutantTurkey | reddit = all my life |
| Xu_R | orly? |
| Xu_R | i'm not subscribed to r/kde |
| * Xu_R goes there now | |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner |
| MutantTurkey | where you at |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 854 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=854 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdesdk: undefined symbol errors |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 766 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=766 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdesu: Functions incorrectly when installed in a non standard path |
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| K`zan | Anyone around at this delightful hour? |
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| strowi | hi |
| strowi | any gen-/funtoo pguys around? |
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| deitarion | Would I put my icons in ~/.local/share/icons or ~/.trinity/share/icons if I wanted to override the BasKet tray icon? |
| deitarion | ...and what theme name is it trying to use? I've tried overriding ~/.{local,trinity}/share/icons/{elementary,hicolor,crystalsvg,default.kde}/{22,24}/basket.png with no luck and it's getting very frustrating to see a glaring yellow basket among a tray full of colorless, shaped indentations in the panel. |
| deitarion | Oh, and the "lubuntu" theme too. However, for every other tray-using app on the system, just placing an override in one of ~/.local/share/icons/{elementary,elementary-mono-dark,lubuntu} will do the trick. (Those three themes form an inheritance chain) |
| deitarion | *facepalm* Never mind. I'd forgotten that KDE 3.5 (and, hence, the code inherited by trinity) uses THEME/22x22/apps rather than THEME/22/apps like KDE 4 and other fully spec-compliant desktops. |
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| * sobukus really hopes the RHEL repo mirrors will be sorted out... they are oudated and broken | |
| sobukus | who's in charge of those? |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 845 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 845 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=845 major, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, xine-artsplugin FTBFS with newer xine API |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 845 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 845 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: hey oh |
| MutantTurkey | that ML thread is so long hah |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: but many mentions of OpenSUSE packages... |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: around? |
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| Vasistha | does trinity power management or kdm-trinity automatically adjust screen brightness? I have been observing this and it is really bothering me, mostly because of the buggy implementation. I'm not sure if trinity is doing this, or if it's something else |
| Vasistha | buggy implementation = my screen is at 50% brightness, and the screen dims after some minutes of inactivity, and then when I move the mouse it brings brightness up to 100% instead of where it was before, 50%. Also I can't seem to disable screen blanking while watching a movie |
| MutantTurkey | Vasistha: it has to do with kpowersave I think |
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| Vasistha | thanks, MutantTurkey. kpowersave information dialog notes "set brightness supported: yes". now I wonder if I can say "don't do it, though" |
| MutantTurkey | Vasistha: configure your profiles I think |
| MutantTurkey | Right Click on icon -> Set Active Scheme |
| MutantTurkey | the presentation one will keep your display always on |
| MutantTurkey | it's easy to modify them |
| Vasistha | MutantTurkey: oh nice, wonderful |
| MutantTurkey | by using the right click -> confgiure kpowersave |
| MutantTurkey | yes sir :-) (or ma'am) |
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| Vasistha | hmm I think I can just disable autodimm. It seems like a good idea but it doesn't properly remember the old dim level. In fact I have sometimes been in plugged-in mode with the screen dim because I have sensitive eyes, and the thing will adjust brighter!! |
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| Vasistha | hmm I would like to enable autosuspend, but I would like to run a script of my choice. what command does "suspend to RAM" run when it is activated? |
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| MutantTurkey | Vasistha: hey |
| MutantTurkey | it runs pm-suspend I think |
| MutantTurkey | through HAl |
| MutantTurkey | HAL' |
| MutantTurkey | it sends a suspend command to hal afaik |
| MutantTurkey | which does something similar to pm-suspend (or does that exactly idk) |
| Vasistha | MutantTurkey: oh yeah? hmm, well if that is the case then maybe I can look into the pm scripts and write a little script that can abort autosuspend if my custom script detects certain activities |
| MutantTurkey | Vasistha: check out /usr/lib/hal/ |
| MutantTurkey | there are the scripts there I think |
| Vasistha | oh okay, will do. thanks again, MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | maybe not though |
| * MutantTurkey isn't reallysure | |
| Vasistha | I see /usr/lib/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-suspend - but that doesn't strike me as being the best approach |
| Vasistha | I'm pretty sure I can tweak around in /etc/pm/sleep.d |
| MutantTurkey | I'm not sure :/ possibly |
| Vasistha | I wonder if there's a way to detect what function has made the call to pm-suspend, whether it is autosuspend-timer or pressing the sleep button or whatever else. I guess those functions would have to pass their own descriptor as a parameter... for some reason I kind of doubt that they do that. |
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| MutantTurkey | I have no idea |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: hey pal |
| l0ner | you |
| l0ner | *y0 |
| l0ner | damn |
| l0ner | I actually wasnted to talk with yoy |
| Vasistha | don't see anyone by the name 'yoy' |
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| MutantTurkey | whats up? |
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| l0ner | I'm trying to write fast... maybe too fast |
| l0ner | too much typos |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 855 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=855 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, twin shadow support may be broken on certain systems |
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| KingSphinx | Installed a base Debian/kFreeBSD system into a VM pretty much for kicks, and to test whether the Debian build of TDE would install on the kFreeBSD port. So far... I can't tell, it got stuck waiting for headers. :/ |
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| K`zan | Hi Folks, dunno if this is helpful, but it happens with some regularity (not necessarily for the same app) but generally when I click a link in irc or email: |
| K`zan | unknown - The KDE Crash Handler. |
| K`zan | Short description |
| K`zan | The application unknown (nspluginviewer) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). |
| K`zan | What is this |
| K`zan | An application mostly receives SIGSEGV signam due to a bug in the application. The application was asked to save its documents. |
| K`zan | What can I do - submit bug report to bugs.kde.org... ... |
| K`zan | Usually the app continues without a problem. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 856 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=856 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Provide CD images for Ubuntu |
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| wodim | yes hello i'm martin graesslin and i'm here to destroy your project |
| wodim | groarrr hate |
| wodim | groarr inefficient code base and man power duplication |
| Strangelv | I may be missing too much, but he seems less unconstructive now than initially |
| Strangelv | I can't remember what's supposed to be so much better with KWin4, but is it similar enough to TWin/KWin3 that we might be able to grab improved parts without having to back port the entire thing to TDE? |
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| Strangelv | Okay, if Gräßlin does all the work for whatever he's wanting to do I'm all for it. |
| wodim | don't know what he rants about |
| wodim | he doesn't even know how to handle kwin |
| Strangelv | "I've not been payinfg adequate attention either |
| Strangelv | hmm |
| wodim | so he shouldn't bitch about a small developers base being able to manage the whole kde 3 |
| Strangelv | "That could complicate porting structural elements betwteen the two |
| Strangelv | "If he ports KWin4 to sit uselessly in TDE it could at least provide a reduced cost for someone else doing something with it |
| Strangelv | It would probably help if I had a better appreciation for what KWin4 and TWin do |
| Strangelv | I would have participated in the poll thread, but by the time I paid enough attention to my neglected INBOX again to notice, everything I might have said was already said by others |
| Strangelv | "Others who've looked at more recent versions of KDE4 than I have |
| l0ner | The main problem with martin is not that he demands something, but the way in which he gets response |
| Strangelv | After having post after post by KDE4 advocates trying to militantly ram in down my throad like some swedish drink while I found it almost so limited as to be unusable... well, let's just say I still have'nt cooled down 3 years later. |
| l0ner | Next time someone points out at any trinity component saying: "this is wrong, replace it wit ours thing", the response should be "we are small team, we don't have time, provide us with patches" |
| Strangelv | "Sounds like a good stock answer to me |
| l0ner | it is |
| l0ner | you want to help? send actuall code or stfu |
| l0ner | pretty much |
| Strangelv | "MAybe worse than STFU -- put your request at the bottom of the feature request list where it'll still be gathering dust 4 years from now |
| l0ner | yes |
| Strangelv | "Barring an increase in the number of deverlopers |
| l0ner | :) |
| Strangelv | What's a good name for a bird mascot that starts with a C? |
| Strangelv | _________ The Corwid |
| Strangelv | Corvid |
| Strangelv | Corvus brachyrhynchos but not referred to by its common name |
| Space_Man | crow |
| Strangelv | Tim and MutantTurkey worry about using that word becaues of the Crow's bad reputation, especially in some parts of the world |
| Strangelv | "But Corvids are highly intelligent, flexible, thrive in urban environments |
| Strangelv | "Tim wants an animal mascot, and a crow is that plus everything I was trying to find. I could have a crow do most of the things my test case robot could do |
| Strangelv | Just need to not call it a crow |
| l0ner | call him Mr. Crow |
| l0ner | and we'll get popularity (or hatred) from Unreal Tournament community :P |
| l0ner | Besides: we are not afraid by calling the project trinity, which could be see as a religious reference, we shouldn't be afraid by crow |
| Strangelv | :: isn't the person to argue the anti-C-word position. He's all for using it himself. Tim and MutantTurkey are the people to convince |
| Strangelv | "Conquey is probably too silly |
| l0ner | oh god no... |
| l0ner | it soulds like conqueror + something I cannot define |
| l0ner | I opose |
| * Strangelv looks in futility for a stock K-something, as they're all modifications of C-something words or are just mash-ups like KSnapshot | |
| Strangelv | Konqueror is probably the biggest defining application we have |
| Strangelv | "That would be the logical place to try, but I can't make it work |
| Strangelv | Caesar? admittedly that's routinely mispronounced 'seizer' |
| Space_Man | Common-Blackbird, Crane, Chaffinch |
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| l0ner | "The Bird" |
| l0ner | "The Goddamned Black Bird" |
| l0ner | :P |
| Strangelv | Part of their reputation problem comes from figuring out where human battlese were going to take place before the humans fighting the abttles did |
| Strangelv | ...and being there waiting when the armies ran into each other |
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| Strangelv | ...Also sitting on tombstones of people they'de observed while they were still alive |
| Strangelv | :: looks for the TED video about the vending machine for crows |
| l0ner | for me this is actally cool ;) |
| l0ner | TED video? |
| Strangelv | This might be it: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/joshua_klein_on_the_intelligence_of_crows.html |
| Strangelv | same name as the vile in my downloaded videos directory |
| Strangelv | should be it |
| Strangelv | s/vile/file/ |
| l0ner | whoah |
| l0ner | seen video about crows |
| Strangelv | I wonder how well they respond to instructional videos. Teach them how to buy pretzels from a vending machine? 8) |
| Strangelv | "Getting them to put the package in the trash after they open it might be a challeneg, admittedly |
| l0ner | and after this giving them peanut |
| Strangelv | "Maybe they'de prefer to get peanuts from the vendinsg machine |
| * Strangelv goes to the vending machine and wonders why it's out of peanuts and pretzels and why there's a bunch of empty wrappers littering the area. ...or how the crow got trapped inside the wending machine | |
| l0ner | lol XD |
| Strangelv | I must admit that most junk food vending machitnes were nit de-signed for crow customers |
| Strangelv | I'm thinking wve might want a 3D model -- that would make putting it in various poses with various objects a lot easier. Alas, I'm not a good person to do that. |
| * Strangelv has yet to surmount the learning curve for Blender | |
| * l0ner gets headache only by looking at blender | |
| Strangelv | BTW, there may still be a giveaway on Bryce, Poser, and Hexagon, although I've not yet even tried to get them to run under WINE. I ned to get a VM installed on this machine on eof these years |
| Strangelv | First I need to solve the problem with my swap drive playing dead occasionally. How does one FSCK a swap partition? |
| l0ner | Strangelv: mkfs.swap |
| l0ner | I don't know if there is a way to fsck swap |
| Strangelv | Acutally I just realized I'd already solved the proxblem. Badblocks returned no problems |
| Strangelv | "So that's presumbly not the problem |
| * Strangelv looks at the time. It's jumped from 'too early' to 'why are'nt you out the door already' | |
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| Space_Man | maybe convert the swap partition to ext2/3/4, run fsck then convert back to swap? |
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| MutantTurkey | sup l0ner |
| MutantTurkey | you see that warning |
| MutantTurkey | mine was just broken |
| MutantTurkey | same issue though |
| MutantTurkey | the socket thing |
| MutantTurkey | I wonder where the API changed and what the solution is |
| wodim | http://i.imgur.com/u2Bfl.png |
| MutantTurkey | hahah |
| MutantTurkey | that is great |
| MutantTurkey | It got deleted though |
| MutantTurkey | your comment |
| MutantTurkey | kvirc huh? |
| wodim | me? yes |
| * MutantTurkey isn't a fan - kvirc just reminds me of a relic from the past :p | |
| wodim | not at all |
| * wodim hits MutantTurkey | |
| MutantTurkey | possibly because there is a sexy anime lady for a logo |
| wodim | lol |
| MutantTurkey | I don't need irc for much so I stick to konversation |
| MutantTurkey | a creepy anime lady rather |
| Strangelv | "i seem to remember there being a wor0karund for the prevention of desktop icons 3 years ago. You had no hope of getting them to line up correctly, though |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: are you having problems with that? |
| MutantTurkey | I noticed a comment on the Bt about desktop icons |
| Strangelv | "I didn't use 4.1 long enough to try |
| Strangelv | "I was too ready to hurl my system across the room |
| Strangelv | "I was referencing the screenshot of the excerpt of the forum discussion |
| * l0ner is sleepy | |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: me wants sexy anime lady for a logo!!! |
| * Strangelv visualises a corvid in drag | |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: about udev: it seems they dropped whole system of /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| MutantTurkey | lol.... |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: now what is used? |
| l0ner | libudev |
| l0ner | directly from the app thst uses udev |
| MutantTurkey | shit |
| MutantTurkey | so actual work :-/ |
| l0ner | yeah |
| l0ner | patch for hal implementing libudev... too much work from my viewpoint |
| l0ner | I remember compiling trinity on gentoo wothout hal |
| l0ner | *without |
| l0ner | I don't remember though what functionality I lost |
| * l0ner actually didin't finish compiling trinity on gentoo | |
| l0ner | maybe thats why |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 857 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=857 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Replace icon in kmix to show level |
| MutantTurkey | someone wanna do that :-p? |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: so... what an we do? |
| MutantTurkey | I mean we could disable that |
| l0ner | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | and introduce arch specific patches to work around it |
| MutantTurkey | i'd rather fix hal though |
| MutantTurkey | do you know what the API change was and do you have a link? |
| MutantTurkey | i can look atit |
| l0ner | afraid not |
| l0ner | wait |
| MutantTurkey | ... ok :-) |
| MutantTurkey | in class so take your time |
| * l0ner kinda too | |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/libudev/api-index-full.html |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/libudev/ |
| l0ner | have fun ;) |
| MutantTurkey | and what does hal do with it? |
| MutantTurkey | might be easy |
| l0ner | this is actually new api |
| l0ner | i don't know the hal source, so dunno |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | okay well i need to figure out the rules first |
| l0ner | there is only one rule |
| MutantTurkey | but it passes all the udev events |
| MutantTurkey | its /lib/udev/rules.d/90-hal.rules |
| l0ner | yes |
| MutantTurkey | first i need to understand the rules |
| l0ner | so hal, needs to get udev events through the api |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | mihgt be just as easy |
| l0ner | question: how do I generate udev event and monitor if hal got it? |
| MutantTurkey | it just runs the udev event thing from hal |
| l0ner | I want to check if it still works |
| MutantTurkey | this is an example: it will run a proram on the sdb load: KERNEL=="sdb", RUN+="/usr/bin/my_program" |
| MutantTurkey | hal does this: |
| MutantTurkey | RUN+="socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event |
| l0ner | so, evertime something happens (I plug um usb stick into pc) |
| l0ner | argh |
| MutantTurkey | is it communicating through dbus? |
| l0ner | so, evertime something happens (I plug my usb stick into pc), udev_event is called? |
| l0ner | it seems so... |
| MutantTurkey | i assume |
| MutantTurkey | so /org/freedesktop/ seems to be dbus |
| MutantTurkey | there is an app called bustle |
| MutantTurkey | it might help test |
| l0ner | in aur, outdated and outvoted |
| MutantTurkey | outvoted? |
| MutantTurkey | oh it's available in ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | install it anyway |
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| MutantTurkey | outdated - you'll still get the older version of it and it'll work |
| MutantTurkey | hey julius |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: hey |
| MutantTurkey | how are you? |
| Z_God | I'm alright, just came home |
| Z_God | how are you? |
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| MutantTurkey | good good |
| MutantTurkey | trying to patch up hal |
| Z_God | what's the problem? |
| MutantTurkey | its broken with the latest udev |
| l0ner | not for me though.... but I'm using some black magic |
| l0ner | y'know... pentagram drawn using blood of black cock around my pc... |
| MutantTurkey | i dunno |
| MutantTurkey | apparently hal can work without udev... |
| MutantTurkey | using the /sys interface |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I cant install it because it's dep, gtk2hs-glade can't be built |
| MutantTurkey | oh dan |
| MutantTurkey | well it sucks |
| MutantTurkey | I tried it |
| l0ner | yeah |
| Z_God | aren't the changes in udev documented? |
| MutantTurkey | yeah...no I have no idea |
| MutantTurkey | i don't have the exact error |
| MutantTurkey | i don't have the exact error.... |
| Z_God | how come? |
| Z_God | I would expect it to be able to log smth when smth goes wrong |
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| MutantTurkey | i know but i'm not on my box |
| MutantTurkey | right now I am just looking around |
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| l0ner | http://www.theonion.com/articles/internet-adds-12th-website,2753/ D: |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | the onion is great |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: I don't understand how it's working though |
| l0ner | no, I mean.. 12 website? |
| MutantTurkey | there is no mention of socket:@ in udev manual |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: hal? |
| l0ner | dbus? |
| l0ner | maybe it's dbus call |
| MutantTurkey | i don't get it |
| l0ner | I think it's entirely dbus call, it says dbus, try to connect to /org/freedsektop/hal/udev_event socket |
| MutantTurkey | but how does it work? |
| l0ner | dunno |
| l0ner | I wonder if the hal developers knew... :P |
| MutantTurkey | looolllll |
| MutantTurkey | hal is not bad |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know why everyone gave up on it |
| l0ner | well... it works |
| MutantTurkey | exactly |
| MutantTurkey | they dumped it before there was a solid replacement |
| l0ner | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | HAL gets all its information from udevd via one of these rules. When the hal package is installed it adds various rules files to /etc/udev which basically tell udevd to copy everything to HAL: |
| MutantTurkey | http://mythic-beasts.com/~mark/random/hal/ |
| MutantTurkey | look |
| l0ner | "process of deprecating HAL as it has "become a large monolithic unmaintainable mess"" from wikipedia |
| MutantTurkey | bb in a minute |
| MutantTurkey | got class |
| l0ner | so based on this I assume: having one big clunk which does a lot of thing is not a good solution. It's better to spit it into smaller parts so if something is not needed is not used, that means loading smaller things into memory. |
| l0ner | modularity is everything |
| l0ner | havbing ability to load plugins does not mean being truly modular, if app loads modules, it integrates them into itself, and thus everything reamins still a monoblock |
| l0ner | same issue we have with arts |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: did you get my link? |
| l0ner | no |
| MutantTurkey | http://mythic-beasts.com/~mark/random/hal/ |
| MutantTurkey | THAT ONE |
| MutantTurkey | whoops |
| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | I'll read this later |
| l0ner | I need to study some numbers ;( |
| l0ner | ç_ç |
| l0ner | the REAL numbers |
| l0ner | I mean... i learned this in my primary school... why I need to study it again... IN A COMPLICATED WAY!? |
| MutantTurkey | sigh |
| * l0ner feels like dropping out univeristy... | |
| l0ner | and becoming a homeless programmer writing html code for food |
| MutantTurkey | lololol |
| MutantTurkey | don't do it |
| MutantTurkey | school is the way |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know how it is communicating over the socket |
| MutantTurkey | to hal |
| MutantTurkey | or what to query for |
| l0ner | damn... |
| l0ner | call directly udev, from hal ? |
| l0ner | without going through the dbus |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: okay now |
| MutantTurkey | If the specified string starts with socket:path, all current event values will be passed to the specified socket, as a message in the same format the kernel sends an uevent. If the first character of the specified path is an @ character, an abstract namespace socket is used, instead of an existing socket file. |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | that abstract namespace being /org/freedesktop/hal/udev_even |
| MutantTurkey | t' |
| l0ner | ok... I'm too much brainfucked atm by mathematics to understand that.... :P but I'll trust you ;) |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: Do you have that warning? |
| l0ner | RUN+="socket:..." support will be removed from a future udev release. |
| l0ner | Please remove it from: /etc/udev/rules.d/90-hal.rules:2 and use |
| l0ner | libudev to subscribe to events. |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | exactly |
| MutantTurkey | so we need to use libudev to subscribe |
| l0ner | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | i'll look at it |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno |
| MutantTurkey | example |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.signal11.us/oss/udev/udev_example.c |
| MutantTurkey | looks like they need a look |
| MutantTurkey | loop' |
| l0ner | yeah, for polling |
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| MutantTurkey | cya' |
| MutantTurkey | that sucks |
| l0ner | what? |
| MutantTurkey | writing that |
| MutantTurkey | I don't want to |
| MutantTurkey | haha |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know enough about it |
| l0ner | yeah... |
| l0ner | I don't even know where to look |
| l0ner | anyway.. 1 h of nap for me |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | I'll return |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: on my laptop everything's ok, on pc, all fscked up |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | with hal? |
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| l0ner | no, with wikipedia :P |
| l0ner | I don't have linux on PC |
| l0ner | only win7 |
| l0ner | it's a gaming machine |
| MutantTurkey | shift f5... |
| MutantTurkey | also dude i got a 96% on my microeconomics exam :-) |
| MutantTurkey | and a 95 on my Political Science essay |
| l0ner | great! |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| l0ner | shft+f5 don;t work in opera |
| l0ner | i like fillinf registration forms on webpages xD |
| l0ner | Full Name: Som Ename |
| MutantTurkey | huhh |
| l0ner | coutry: Urugway |
| l0ner | street: Som str. n 65 |
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| MutantTurkey | l0ner: hey do me a favor and lets talk to kaitocracy about trinity mirrors? |
| l0ner | how can I contact him/her? |
| MutantTurkey | on the IRC with nick kaitocracy or email kaitocracy@gmail.com |
| l0ner | ok, I'll contact him when I have time |
| l0ner | it's him or her? |
| MutantTurkey | urrrk |
| MutantTurkey | uh |
| MutantTurkey | him |
| MutantTurkey | afaik |
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| l0ner | ok |
| l0ner | again, I'll contact him when I have time |
| l0ner | that means not in the comig next 2 weeks |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| * l0ner have seen Johnny Mnemonic | |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| l0ner | the film |
| l0ner | awesome thing man |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: look at latest comment to hal |
| MutantTurkey | I saw |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I'm going to take a programming exam in LOLCODE |
| MutantTurkey | lol lol ol |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: do you have proble with hal, or you have resolved it? |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: http://roncisvalle.forumfree.it/?t=43569943&st=2670#entry489543621 |
| MutantTurkey | what is this madness? |
| l0ner | forum I'm admin on |
| l0ner | madness? this is roncisvalle!! |
| MutantTurkey | llol |
| MutantTurkey | whats that |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: ping |
| MutantTurkey | pong |
| l0ner | I fixed hal!! |
| MutantTurkey | how? |
| l0ner | https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51454 |
| l0ner | read the comment |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | I read it |
| MutantTurkey | what was the link? |
| l0ner | https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51454 |
| MutantTurkey | can you just tell me? |
| MutantTurkey | the ink |
| MutantTurkey | I see the comment |
| l0ner | oh |
| MutantTurkey | ln what? |
| l0ner | ln -s /usr/bin/udevadm /sbin/udevadm |
| MutantTurkey | instead of the ln why don't you instead fix hal? |
| l0ner | I fixed hal |
| MutantTurkey | i know.... |
| MutantTurkey | I mean fix the hard coded paths |
| MutantTurkey | instead of a link |
| MutantTurkey | links are messy imho |
| l0ner | yeah, i fixed those |
| MutantTurkey | so did you still have a link? |
| l0ner | no |
| l0ner | I reedited my comment to be more clear |
| l0ner | I fix the paths in the hal code |
| l0ner | and now I'm going sleep |
| l0ner | its 2:23AM where I live |
| l0ner | damn... late-night coding actually works |
| l0ner | I'm more productive as programmer at night xD |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I might know why on my laptop nothing is broken |
| l0ner | I use hal from git |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | good night |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | hal from what git/ |
| l0ner | git://anongit.freedesktop.org/hal |
| l0ner | there is a pkgbuild in aur called hal-git |
| l0ner | when I was installing kdemod3 i thought it will be better to use this one, since it's from git and may have some updates that the tarball version does not have |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: I've run quick diff on code from hal and hal-git |
| l0ner | there are actually some things that were updated/added |
| l0ner | Latest hal tarball was generated 2 years ago |
| l0ner | last commit to hal code in git is from 2011-10-30 |
| l0ner | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/hal/log/ |
| l0ner | anyway, I'm going sleep ;) |
| l0ner | g'night ;) thxbye |
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| Shdwdrgn | FYI wicd 1.7.1 has been released. It no longer properly discovers hidden ssid's that you enter, however if you manually edit the config file and enter a block for your ssid, it does connect to it, and continue to work after a reboot. |
| Shdwdrgn | it's a step in the right direction, at least |
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| MutantTurkey | anyone using arch here? |
| Strangelv | "Not I |
| Strangelv | file: Luasog-IDE-0.3.air -> extract with Ark to Luasog-IDE-0.3.air -- what's wrong with this picture? |
| Strangelv | "Someone here does but I don't remember whom |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
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| shdw_work | MutantTurkey, when I updated the wicd bug report last night, I noted to him that the latest version of wicd is installing multiple desktop icons (I ended up with three after installing from source), and suggested a check in the GUI client to only launch one copy per desktop. |
| MutantTurkey | why is it launching two |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | did you report it to wicd or to trinity? |
| shdw_work | well it reinstalled the .desktop file under /etc/xdg/autostart/ |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| shdw_work | but it also must have added a new one, and I couldn't find that one. I ended up removing the copy from ~/.kde3/Autostart |
| MutantTurkey | that is one, where is the other? |
| shdw_work | and this was reported under a wicd bug |
| MutantTurkey | okay right |
| MutantTurkey | who added it to .kde3/Autostart? |
| shdw_work | I did due to other issues that were seen in previous versions |
| shdw_work | I was talking to someone else here a couple weeks ago when we were looking at wicd... the .desktop file under /etc/xdg/autostart was launching two copies, but if I moved the file to my user's autostart, it only launched a single time |
| MutantTurkey | right on |
| MutantTurkey | wicd :/ |
| MutantTurkey | I wish i could just have a manager that worked well |
| MutantTurkey | NetworkManger sucks too |
| shdw_work | if he can fix the addition of hidden ssid's again, I think wicd will be back to being the best choice |
| shdw_work | not sure how long this issue with hidden ssid's has been going on. My own laptop still has intrepid on it because I only use it for watching torrents on the TV |
| shdw_work | and that version has worked fine |
| shdw_work | by the way, is there a release of trinity for gentoo? |
| MutantTurkey | new NM sucks though... |
| MutantTurkey | shdw_work: isn't elidell working on it? |
| MutantTurkey | I know somewhere someone keeps mnetioning it |
| shdw_work | I got a part-time job, and this laptop they gave me has gentoo on it. All I can say is I will never *choose* to use gentoo. |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| shdw_work | yeah I found how to get kde3 on here, but it's still wierd |
| MutantTurkey | shdw_work: E. Liddell is wokring on it - he has posted messages to the ML before |
| shdw_work | ok cool. If I get completely fed-up with this install, I'll see if I can find his work |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| shdw_work | ah here it is... the bug for wicd... |
| shdw_work | https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/808342 |
| MutantTurkey | I hate launchpad... |
| MutantTurkey | It's a pita |
| shdw_work | heh |
| MutantTurkey | I tried to get some stuff with it a few years ago to help a project I worked with |
| MutantTurkey | i just gave up on it |
| MutantTurkey | mailed the patches in |
| shdw_work | I find it easier than the cmd-line based code management tools |
| shdw_work | \I never got the hang of them |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | agreed |
| MutantTurkey | just wrote and awesome bash function for my rc |
| MutantTurkey | called "mkcd" |
| MutantTurkey | instead of mkdir foo, cd foo |
| MutantTurkey | mkcd foo |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| shdw_work | heh |
| shdw_work | shortcuts |
| shdw_work | I used to do that, but then I found myself unable to function when I worked on a different computer |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | agreed |
| MutantTurkey | i just track all my files in a git repo |
| MutantTurkey | then check it out wherever I am |
| shdw_work | damn I gotta find a place to order some of these locking sata power and data cables. Have a 4-drive raid sitting next to a server, and always afraid to move it for fear one of the cables willl pop loose |
| MutantTurkey | don't move it :p |
| shdw_work | its under the desk, so that's rarely an issue |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| shdw_work | but still, it would be nice to make sure the cat can't knock things loose either :-) |
| MutantTurkey | totally understandable |
| shdw_work | by the way, I still have not been able to figure out this whole thing with launching kwin. I've been doing several installs lately, and the only commonality I can find is that kwin has to be added to autostart on the desktop computers, but it launches fine on the laptop computers I've set up. |
| MutantTurkey | whats wrong with kwin |
| MutantTurkey | it launches via the startkde script? |
| shdw_work | on the two desktop machines, it doesn't launch at all. Nowhere to be found in 'ps ax' |
| MutantTurkey | can you manually start it? |
| shdw_work | yeah, on the machines that don't have it, I add it to ~/.kde3/Autostart |
| shdw_work | then everything runs fine |
| MutantTurkey | weird weird weird |
| shdw_work | yet I've loaded up two laptops in the past couple weeks using the same trinity-maverick install cd, then do-release-upgrade to natty (same process I used on the desktops), and kwin is launching itself as expected without me having to do anything |
| shdw_work | oh yeah, and my desktop was upgraded to trinity 3.5.13, and kwin still didn't launch |
| shdw_work | I haven't done the 3.5.13 update on any of the other machines |
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| MutantTurkey | anyone read my email I just send to trinity-devel/ |
| MutantTurkey | kinda anxious to get a response |
| shdw_work | sorry, not on that list |
| MutantTurkey | why not :p? |
| shdw_work | slacker-in-training |
| MutantTurkey | hah |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 858 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=858 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine missing localization files |
| MutantTurkey | are they missing or are they never existing? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 859 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=859 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine does not block screensaver |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: ping |
| MutantTurkey | pong |
| l0ner | I'm dissapearing for a while |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| l0ner | I need to go to poland |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| MutantTurkey | how many weeks |
| l0ner | 1 week |
| l0ner | +maybe 1-2 days more |
| l0ner | and not really cool |
| l0ner | my grandfather died today, and friday I have the funeral |
| MutantTurkey | not cool |
| MutantTurkey | thats terrible |
| MutantTurkey | sorry :/ |
| l0ner | thanks |
| l0ner | anyway, I'll show up here when I come back |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | no internet in poland? email? |
| l0ner | if anything comes up when I'm away, send me a mail |
| l0ner | only mail |
| l0ner | i don't want to use too much my uncle's internet connection |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| l0ner | since he has very limied download quota |
| MutantTurkey | understood |
| l0ner | great ;) |
| l0ner | that said, I go to sleep |
| l0ner | 20 hours of driving avaits me |
| l0ner | tommorow |
| l0ner | I need to be fresh |
| l0ner | so see you ;) |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | see you soon |
| l0ner | ;) |
| MutantTurkey | I will miss your help :p |
| l0ner | lol :P |
| MutantTurkey | i'll have to deal with hal bymelf xD |
| MutantTurkey | myself' |
| l0ner | I'll be back, don't be afraid ;) |
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| K`zan | Anyone here that might know something about mousekeys as the ubuntu folks implemented it? I need to get rid of it and install another one, but nothing I do gets rid of the old one... |
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| MutantTurkey | ping pong |
| MutantTurkey | loner is gone :[ |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: ping |
| MutantTurkey | whoops |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 860 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=860 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Need to rename certain environment variables |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com marked bug 314 as a duplicate of bug 800. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=314 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, kdemultimedia build warnings |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=800 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdemultimedia: patch to correctly detect MMX |
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| MutantTurkey | woop woop |
| MutantTurkey | anyone see my mockup?:-) |
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| Fresh_meat_ | hi guys |
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| schreiberstein | good night! |
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| rzs19_ | MutantTurkey: hey |
| MutantTurkey | hello |
| MutantTurkey | how are you? |
| MutantTurkey | this topic needs updating badly |
| MutantTurkey | -_- |
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| rzs19_ | fine and you? |
| rzs19_ | do you have tried 3.5.14? |
| rzs19_ | your soundgin frustrated? |
| rzs19_ | something like "tim is death, we need to switch to kde 4" |
| rzs19_ | dead... |
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| schreiberstein | :D |
| MutantTurkey | sorrt |
| MutantTurkey | 3.5.14? |
| MutantTurkey | it's not yet to be released for some time |
| MutantTurkey | active additions are being made though |
| rzs19_ | i meand nightly snapshots... |
| MutantTurkey | working from git yes |
| MutantTurkey | I have it on my box |
| MutantTurkey | but i stick to using 3.5.13 for work |
| MutantTurkey | the only way more bugs get fixed is if someone fixes them :-) |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: apparently 187 bugs have been closed since 3.5.13 |
| Fresh_meat__ | hello everyone |
| rzs19_ | nice, nice. :) |
| Fresh_meat__ | is it planned in 3.5.14 to drop hal. |
| rzs19_ | so, cu you all later, need to go home |
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| MobileTurkey | aalecs: what's up? |
| aalecs | hello |
| aalecs | nuthin much |
| aalecs | haning around here |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| aalecs | you ? |
| MobileTurkey | same here |
| MobileTurkey | at work |
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| 50UAASN7L | Hi, I would appreciate a litle help: I have a computer without audio and I added an usb audio card. I would like to use it, but kmix does not seem to see it. |
| 50UAASN7L | the version of kmix is 3.5.12-0debian7+r1175295 |
| 50UAASN7L | I suppose I have something to do in the settings, but do not know what. |
| 50UAASN7L | any idea ? |
| SlavekB | If you connect the usb-audio after kmix already running, so it just quit and restart kmix. |
| 50UAASN7L | It worked! so simple! thank yoy SlavekB! |
| 50UAASN7L | s/yoy/you/ |
| SlavekB | :) |
| 50UAASN7L | yeah, I feel a bit dumb :) |
| SlavekB | I have a yealink usb phone - is also usb-audio, so I also had to deal with sometimes... |
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| SlavekB | It would be good if kmix to new audio devices respond dynamically. But who programmed it? ;) |
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| * Strangelv wonders what package klauncher is in and what it the world deleted it | |
| * Strangelv thinks of a workaround involving his office machine, assuming it's just the specific file that's missing and not an entire package | |
| Strangelv | :: does not have the time to try to upgrade from R12 to R13 this week |
| Strangelv | locate lists it at /opt/kde3/bin/klauncher but it's no longer there |
| SlavekB | I have it in /opt/trinity/bin. |
| Strangelv | You're probably running newer than R12 |
| MobileTurkey | hello all |
| MobileTurkey | sorry I just disappeared |
| MobileTurkey | back now |
| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: hello |
| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: can you include the kate MDI patch to your sources? |
| MobileTurkey | i depend on it :-) |
| * Strangelv will disappear when he's able to stand up to go to the other machine to try to resume fillingo ut paperwork with Inkscape on that machine. How well does freenode accept people logged in from more than one machine? | |
| SlavekB | Yes - is included in kdebase...ax7 |
| MobileTurkey | thank you |
| MobileTurkey | didn't realize |
| MobileTurkey | from 692? |
| SlavekB | I have here two machines - both debian squeeze - one with 3.5.12, the other with 3.5.13 - on both the klauncher in /opt/trinity/bin. |
| SlavekB | Yes both patches. |
| Strangelv | "Okay, I do have such a directory, and it is there. So why was it in the other place last time updatedb was run? It wasn't THAT lng ago... anyway... this is too specific to me. Teher's a more important topic going ot |
| SlavekB | How often do you run updatedb? |
| Strangelv | When I need to. It could easily be a month or more |
| * Strangelv : klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'. | |
| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: often heh |
| Strangelv | I definitely don't have time to troubleshoot this. I need to move to the other machine |
| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: apt-get update no? |
| * Strangelv can't update all of his packages. Taht would update to R13 and he isn't prepared for that yet | |
| MobileTurkey | use 3.5.13 from SlavekB |
| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: how do you say you name heh? sl-ah-veh-k bank - oh? |
| Strangelv | "You pasted the URL, but I had atnothe disappearing swap drive-induced panic since then |
| * Strangelv tries to stand up again | |
| SlavekB | Sorry, I was just at the second computer and tried something with #859 |
| SlavekB | ...again without success :( |
| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: 692? |
| SlavekB | Patches of #692 are in kdebase...ax7 that is already published in my ppa. |
| SlavekB | #859 == Kaffeine does not block screensaver |
| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: huh I don't see it |
| MobileTurkey | maybe i need to re upgrade |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+sourcepub/16889/+listing-archive-extra |
| SlavekB | I searched my name spoken - here it is quite good ;) |
| SlavekB | http://cs.forvo.com/word/sl%C3%A1vek/#cs |
| MobileTurkey | very good |
| SlavekB | I have to go ... hello yet. |
| MobileTurkey | hi |
| MobileTurkey | i don't see the fix :| |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | so, ubuntus 12.04 LTS is coming up - are there plans for a close-by release for that? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 957 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=957 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kipi-plugins fails to build - error: redeclaration of 'TQListViewItemIterator it' |
| Shdwdrgn | ever since upgrading to natty, my keyboard lock indicator LEDs no longer work. (numlock always on, the other two never toggle). Anyone else seen this? |
| Shdwdrgn | standard desktop pc, US 105 keyboard |
| Shdwdrgn | capslock seems to work up until I see on the screen "Begin running sciripts init/Bottom" |
| Shdwdrgn | note that the capslock and numlock keys do function, its just the indicators that are not working (either from GUI or CLI) |
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| rzs19_ | goood morning :) |
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| rzs19 | morgen SirDodger :) |
| SirDodger | moin moin |
| SirDodger | hoi rzs19 |
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| MutantTurkey | weeb wub |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 938 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=938 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, knights: missing docbook files |
| Strangelv | :: hasn't had the keyboard LED issue, but is still running Meerkat |
| * Strangelv tries to add http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ to a stable location before he loses it again | |
| * Space_Man is running oneiric with caps lock and num lock problems | |
| Space_Man | pressing caps lock sometimes freezes the keyboard |
| Space_Man | I can move the pointer with the mouse but mouse button presses are ignored |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: same here |
| MutantTurkey | it has to do with TSAK I am almost sure |
| MutantTurkey | if you upgrade to SlavekB's packages you'll have it fixed. |
| Space_Man | I think I am using SlavekB'd packages |
| MutantTurkey | hum |
| MutantTurkey | It's workedfor me now. |
| MutantTurkey | Maybe disable sak? |
| MutantTurkey | unless I did that. |
| SlavekB | But NumLock and CapsLock are "known" problem with SAK. |
| SlavekB | SAK is decently said ill. |
| Space_Man | I added the repo lines and did an update / upgrade, which added 113 new packages |
| SlavekB | I prefer to SAK by default switched off... |
| SlavekB | ...I am whoever it sees no benefit in SAK. |
| SlavekB | But I did not want in packages in my PPA to change this default configuration. |
| * SlavekB does not like SAK :) | |
| MutantTurkey | i do i don't like it's problems |
| MutantTurkey | there is a benefit of security |
| MutantTurkey | esp in a corporate environment |
| SlavekB | I just do not see any benefit in pressing C+A+D. |
| MutantTurkey | heh the actual keys don't matter |
| MutantTurkey | the advantage is that it prevents spoofing |
| SlavekB | Ever since when it has a Windows, it seems as empty words. |
| SlavekB | So far I have found no convincing argument than the words. |
| MutantTurkey | i don't understand |
| SlavekB | Once upon a time, even in DOS, in my program I had my own keyboard driver, where I was on C + A + D my own reaction. |
| SlavekB | Maybe that's why I does not seem press C+A+D as "magical." |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 958 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=958 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gcc 4.7 updates causes build failures throughout TDE |
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| SirDodger | moin moin |
| MutantTurkey | helloooo |
| SirDodger | hoi MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| SirDodger | alles gut ... ich muss mich mal um die headhunter kümmern |
| MutantTurkey | all is good, I must with ___ on the head hunter ___ |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: help |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| SlavekB | huh |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno i was trying to translate, I don't speak german |
| SlavekB | I too not speak german |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19 does |
| SirDodger | smile |
| SirDodger | one headhunter has my email and need my experiance |
| SlavekB | maybe it was some secret code ;) |
| MutantTurkey | err |
| MutantTurkey | dunno |
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| SirDodger | kopete kann auch irc? ... kopete 0.12.3? |
| MutantTurkey | err |
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| SlavekB | SirDodger: yes, I use kopete for irc |
| SirDodger | SlavekB: nice. my kopete version are 1.2.40 :D |
| MutantTurkey | I prefer konversation |
| SirDodger | i use currently quassel |
| SlavekB | I currently on mobile - with Bombus ;-) |
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| elcaset | konversation is my favorite, as well. |
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| Z_God | hey, anyone here who knows a bit about the wiki? |
| Z_God | I wanted to put this URL on it somewhere: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-usability&m=117226628817401 |
| Z_God | it suggests an improvement for KDE4, but everything applies to Trinity as well, so it seems useful to keep a reference to it somewhere |
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| SlavekB | Yesterday I wanted to try kvirc, but does not run on Debian. |
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| SlavekB | The package kvirc-trinity is completely missing modules. |
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| SlavekB | /quit |
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| Borg^Queen | hi people. I was thinking about the restructuring of kcontrol. I have some ideas about. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 681 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=681 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Add a KControl option/check box to show/not show the exiting "Saving Your Settings" dialog. |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: hi |
| Borg^Queen | hi |
| Borg^Queen | brb |
| Z_God | it seems there aren't so many devs in here the past days |
| Borg^Queen | Things are getting better |
| Z_God | I'm on KDE4 myself now, but I'm still now sure if I'll stick with it |
| Z_God | not* |
| Borg^Queen | I don't use kde4. |
| Z_God | I also have trinity installed, but it's the version from ubuntu oneiric on precise |
| Borg^Queen | I just tried the latest version using kubuntu and a few others. Its still buggy and lacking in general. Its also missing a lot of useful tools and apps. And Konqueror. |
| Borg^Queen | I tried kde4 in precise too |
| Z_God | yes indeed, quite a few bugs... |
| Z_God | but it's more useable now than before |
| Z_God | their direction seems to be god |
| Z_God | good* |
| Borg^Queen | more so than any version of kde I've ever used. and I"ve been using it since pre 2 |
| Borg^Queen | Aye, its better but nothing like kde3 in terms of speed, stability and usablility |
| Z_God | with trinity, I still have to see, but there are some bugs that are making it problematic for me to use it on newer distros |
| Borg^Queen | I've had little problems |
| Borg^Queen | Nothing serious at all |
| Z_God | the main issue I have is the layout switcher |
| Borg^Queen | explain |
| Z_God | kxkb doesn't work properly with newer x servers it seems |
| Z_God | it's bug 100 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=100 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Keyboard layout switcher does not work |
| Borg^Queen | x servers |
| Borg^Queen | ah the old kb problem |
| Z_God | in lucid with the stock x server everything is fine |
| Borg^Queen | aye |
| Z_God | but I hope it'll be fixed when the new LTS is released |
| Z_God | and there'll be a trinity version for it |
| Z_God | but I guess most people here don't work much with multiple layouts |
| Borg^Queen | generally not |
| Z_God | but for people that do, this issue is quite problematic |
| Z_God | kxkb from KDE4 works correctly |
| Z_God | so I'm not sure why kxkb in trinity broke |
| Borg^Queen | I don't know |
| Z_God | I kinda hope that trinity and kde4 will be able to share more code in the future |
| Z_God | because otherwise, I can't really imagine things working out for trinity |
| Borg^Queen | Its more likely kde4 will borrow from trinity, I've heard things are going so well. |
| Z_God | what exactly did you hear about that? |
| Borg^Queen | Just that there's a divide among the devels in philosophy. |
| Borg^Queen | One group doesn't care what people think, the other does. |
| Borg^Queen | and that they can't get a lot of things to work |
| Z_God | it all depends on people's goals |
| Borg^Queen | which means they will be lacking in apps and tools for a whi;e |
| Borg^Queen | it does doesn't it |
| Z_God | I was always surprised that people blamed the KDE 4 developers for taking away things that KDE 3.5 offered |
| Borg^Queen | They did |
| Z_God | nobody took away KDE 3.5 |
| Borg^Queen | They decided for example to replace konq with dolphine |
| Z_God | it has always stayed available |
| Z_God | and it's people own choice to move to KDE 4 |
| Z_God | people's* |
| Borg^Queen | They canceled its development and essentially forced people to migrate |
| Borg^Queen | No it wasn't |
| Z_God | it's nonsense, Trinity was already available then |
| Z_God | and it was just possible to use that |
| Borg^Queen | No it wasn't |
| Z_God | I was also one of the KDE 3.5 users that couldn't feel at home with KDE 4 |
| Z_God | Tim had a fully working Lucid ready the moment the previous LTS version of Kubuntu (with KDE 3.5) was out of support |
| Borg^Queen | I wanted to move to 4 believing it was better, until I found I couldn't do any work in it |
| Borg^Queen | everything I used was missing and still is |
| Z_God | yep, I had the same issues |
| Z_God | but instead of complaining, I just looked up the kde3 repos & installed it ;) |
| Borg^Queen | I didn't complain. I tried to help. |
| Borg^Queen | and was treated very poorly as were many people |
| Z_God | I don't know anything about that |
| Z_God | you sent in patches or smth like that? |
| Z_God | I've considered fixing some things I noticed in KDE 4 but haven't come round to it |
| Borg^Queen | I tested it and tried to file bug reports all of which along with many others were ignored |
| Z_God | but that's not being treated poorly |
| Borg^Queen | You didn't see the thing they said |
| Z_God | ignoring would imply to me that nothing was said |
| Z_God | but you meant smth else? |
| Borg^Queen | smth? |
| Z_God | something |
| Borg^Queen | I don't follow what you're saying, but the conversation is moot. |
| Z_God | I mean what kind of things did they say? |
| Z_God | I first understood that they ignored you, which I would understand as that you didn't get a response at all |
| Z_God | I think it's acceptable to ignore a bugreport, but I do not think it's acceptable to treat a person improperly |
| Z_God | that's why I'm interested in what exactly happened |
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| calamari | hi. when I run firefox, it sometimes crashes out all the way to kdm. I noticed the same thing when I tried mate desktop environment earlier, so I'm not convinced it's a trinity problem, but just thought I'd ask to see if anyone else has had this problem and if they figured out a workaround |
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| calamari | oh, also wanted to mention I had to uninstall kgtk-qt3-trinity, because otherwise I couldn't run gedit or pavucontrol (it did not like the gtk2/3 library mix) |
| SlavekB | I watch a lot of problems after updating flash player. |
| calamari | in kde4 I don't seem to have the firefox problem (just a lot of other problems, hehe) |
| calamari | brb rebooting |
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| K`zan | Happy Easter: http://wrlabs.shacknet.nu/~vw/easter-bunny-facehugger.jpg :-). |
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| calamari | is there a way to edit which programs are autoloaded into the system tray? for example, I'd like to stop akonadi, and I get two bluemans. |
| calamari | well found a workaround.. can just hide them from view |
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| calamari | hmm.. just noticed my laptop screen brightness is lower than it should be.. maybe I need to reboot again |
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| Borg^Queen | hi and brb |
| Borg^Queen | back |
| MutantTurkey | hi :-) |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| Borg^Queen | Not much. Dealing with panicing Mac users and win7 users. |
| MutantTurkey | err scary! |
| MutantTurkey | i'm dealing with a dumb grad project for some grad who left |
| MutantTurkey | i have to tye up the loose ends of his project |
| MutantTurkey | process some data regarding behavoiral studies of insects... |
| MutantTurkey | yeesh it's time consuming |
| MutantTurkey | and the guy had a terrible process |
| Borg^Queen | What do you mean, left. He quit skooool? |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | he finished, finished his discertation |
| MutantTurkey | but now his professor wants to get it in a journal, they need to process more data to make sure that their results are accurate. |
| MutantTurkey | so.. |
| MutantTurkey | that's me |
| Borg^Queen | ugh |
| MutantTurkey | he wroe half it to only work with objective C and macs, then the other half relies on quicktime and just some strange steps... |
| MutantTurkey | especially when we have a 64 core cluster we could be using... |
| Borg^Queen | quicktime? |
| MutantTurkey | yes ._. |
| Borg^Queen | why is it a video project? |
| MutantTurkey | he's extracting videos from quicktime to PNG files for each frame.... |
| MutantTurkey | mplayer or imagemagik would have done better and faster |
| Borg^Queen | oic |
| Borg^Queen | true |
| MutantTurkey | but now I am working on a mac that is a dual processor Xeon with 16 gigs of ram... |
| Borg^Queen | and? |
| Borg^Queen | I'm off mac of late. |
| MutantTurkey | so at least it's going somewhat faster. |
| MutantTurkey | still hate macs. |
| Borg^Queen | Agreed |
| Borg^Queen | They're not that fast. It was OS9 that was. |
| Borg^Queen | But OSx isn't. Its too bloated with spyware and proprietary crap. |
| Borg^Queen | Darwin Unix is weeping. |
| MutantTurkey | I mean... it's fast |
| MutantTurkey | because it's a fast computer |
| Borg^Queen | Aye, I know |
| MutantTurkey | mac just sucks in general |
| MutantTurkey | so do PC's though |
| Borg^Queen | But in the past Mac boasted that it was faster than PCs, when in fact it wasn't |
| MutantTurkey | also they used better chips then |
| MutantTurkey | the old ppcs |
| MutantTurkey | I mean the one I use at work (not that nice one) is OLD and sucks |
| MutantTurkey | but the g3's were good |
| Borg^Queen | Aye, but if you have an after market intel board or a genuine intel board, it was better |
| MutantTurkey | and ahead of the pentium 1'2s |
| Borg^Queen | I have a g3 |
| MutantTurkey | me too |
| MutantTurkey | this is a G5 |
| Borg^Queen | Its an intel board. |
| MutantTurkey | last of the PPC's |
| MutantTurkey | and it blows |
| Borg^Queen | blows? |
| MutantTurkey | so slow |
| Borg^Queen | bad or good |
| MutantTurkey | so so so so hot |
| Borg^Queen | oh aye |
| MutantTurkey | i useit to heat my feet in the winter... |
| Borg^Queen | My PII 650mhz is faster |
| MutantTurkey | probably |
| MutantTurkey | now i have an intel i5 so i don't care |
| Borg^Queen | Definately. |
| Borg^Queen | Aye |
| Borg^Queen | I wonder if my commando board can be firmware upgraded to use an i7? |
| MutantTurkey | no idea heh |
| MutantTurkey | I need to get a decent build server system |
| MutantTurkey | i am thinking dual opterons.... |
| MutantTurkey | i also need a music processing workstation |
| MutantTurkey | so a bit of a combo probably |
| MutantTurkey | this laptop isn't cut out for heavy lifting really |
| Borg^Queen | Aye |
| MutantTurkey | (though it is good) |
| Borg^Queen | My philosophy is, build the best for any purpose. |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | as a laptop though... |
| MutantTurkey | i don't mind |
| Borg^Queen | Everything I build is a server class workhorse, even if its just for multimedia use. |
| Borg^Queen | My old IBM thinkpad t30 rocks. |
| MutantTurkey | this is a thinky x220 :-) |
| Borg^Queen | I traded a 2 years old toshiba for it. |
| MutantTurkey | i have this and a t60 |
| MutantTurkey | for multimedia i have a htpc setup using a intel atom... but that is a specific use case |
| Borg^Queen | t60s are great |
| MutantTurkey | i'm short on money though... college and all |
| Borg^Queen | Everyone is short on money. |
| Borg^Queen | Besides, one should always recycle. These "rubbish" computers are the best |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | it's hard to find a good rubbish computer though |
| MutantTurkey | for my needs |
| Borg^Queen | Well that's because the computer companies found out people were recycling them. So now they are paying stores to take them and crush them. |
| MutantTurkey | yep... |
| MutantTurkey | though not a lot of people are junking high power desktops |
| Borg^Queen | Well here, most people aren't buying new computer.s |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | I avoid it |
| MutantTurkey | i like to get refurbs |
| Borg^Queen | Several articles came out about how there hasn't been any significant change in tech in the last 6 years. There's no reason to buy a new one or upgrade. They article suggested install linux to boost the machine's performance and take advantage of better apps. |
| Borg^Queen | I build my own. |
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| Borg^Queen | EEeeeeeckkk |
| Borg^Queen | brb |
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| Borg^Queen | brb |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
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| Borg^Queen | Mmm fat and juicet bird |
| MobileTurkey | hehe |
| Borg^Queen | juicey even |
| MobileTurkey | all jokes revolve around my name |
| MobileTurkey | I don't mind |
| Borg^Queen | LOL |
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| Borg^Queen | trouble with your connection? |
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| Borg^Queen | trouble with your connection? |
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| MutantTurkey | always |
| Borg^Queen | Hmm, must be all the feathers in the router |
| MutantTurkey | university vpn |
| MutantTurkey | mostly |
| Borg^Queen | Well lads & lasses must go. See you later or tomorrow |
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| * Strangelv types _deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ maverick main_ into sources.list and wonders if there's anything he should know or remember before attemptingto upgrade to R13.1 | |
| * Xu_R watches your system blow up... not. | |
| SlavekB | Maybe that downloading packages from the PPA is slow? ;) |
| Strangelv | "Noted |
| Strangelv | I had the original R13 stuff set up, then tried to grab KDE4's Konqueror implementation and brake part of my system, so now instead of being worried about breaking my system I'm hoping to fix it... |
| SlavekB | If you have a PS/2 keyboard, do not forget to disable the SAK. |
| Strangelv | "My line isn't working. dist-upgrade doesn't see any TDE packages at all |
| Strangelv | "SAK? |
| Strangelv | :: has a PS/2 on his other machine which is also still running R12 |
| Strangelv | Is maverick main the proper text to have at the end of deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ ? |
| SlavekB | Turn on NumLock or CapsLock kills keyboard if SAK is enabled. |
| Space_Man | my line |
| Space_Man | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu oneiric main |
| Xu_R | Strangelv: you're missing /ubuntu at the end of the url |
| Strangelv | Any guess if that will still work with Meerkat? |
| Strangelv | "danke |
| Xu_R | iouno >_> haven't had time to keep up with whatever trinity is doing :| |
| * Space_Man whispers kicker still crashes | |
| * Strangelv waits for his dist-upgrade of everything else to complete before trying again | |
| Strangelv | Kicker still crashes with R13.1? |
| Space_Man | maybe, this is kubuntu 10.04 upgrade to 11.10 |
| Space_Man | something else may be wrong |
| Strangelv | I'm surprised you've seemingly gotten aw ay with that big a jiump. I'm expecting to need to upgrade to Natty then Oneric, then... |
| Space_Man | sorry, I upgraded to natty, maverick and then oneiric |
| * Strangelv sees his entimated download wait is still at about 3 minutes after briefly jumping to 7 | |
| Strangelv | :: wonders if it'll be ready in 10 minutes |
| rzs19 | SAK = ? |
| * Strangelv still doesn't know what SAKI is himself | |
| Space_Man | or TSAK :P |
| SlavekB | About kicker crash I do not know. |
| rzs19 | i heard about it, i read about in the kdmrc config, but i don't know what it is |
| * Strangelv finds it mentioned in email archives in his startpage.com searches, but still doesn't see a definition or explanation. He tries apt-cache | |
| * Strangelv : sipsak - SIP Swiss army knife ? | |
| SlavekB | In /etc/trinity/kdm/kdmrc is UseSAK choice. I recommend setting to false. |
| * Strangelv gets a new file messaeg, then looks at the path and makes a change | |
| rzs19 | othwerwise kwin will run under root, but i have no idea what is does ? |
| rzs19 | or was that soe other issue, don't know... |
| * Strangelv : /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc | |
| rzs19 | so what is sak? |
| Strangelv | ::: [ "sak" not found ] |
| SlavekB | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_attention_key |
| rzs19 | oh, oh i remember |
| SlavekB | They are still having problems with it. |
| SlavekB | The fundamental about that, on the PS/2 keyboard turn on NumLock or CapsLock leads to "kill" the keyboard. |
| rzs19 | i jus tcould remember thaht my kwin runs than under root and does not load its config correctly, but maybe that was another issuse... too long ago and i'm to tired to remember :) |
| * Strangelv adds UseSAK=false as the strink SAK is not already in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc | |
| SlavekB | You have a configuration for the Trinity still in /etc/kde3? |
| Strangelv | "yup |
| Strangelv | The only /trinity directory is one createid by the packages that have broken parts of my system |
| Strangelv | "Among other symptoms, Konqueror and Inkscape are both broken |
| Strangelv | "<Largely because klauncher and/or kio_file are broken |
| Strangelv | On the plus side I've discovered that Dolphin isn't as worthless as it was the last time I tried using it |
| rzs19 | gn8 everyone :) |
| Strangelv | "at least the KDE4 version that got installed is almost usable. Has tabs, isn't assuming as much that its users drank lead paint as children as before |
| Strangelv | later |
| * Strangelv begins to suspect that http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu does not include a full set of files | |
| SlavekB | Yes - it's just updates to some packages and R13 must be used together with common sources of R13. |
| SlavekB | Packages for which no patches have been added are taken from the usual sources for R13. |
| Strangelv | "full upgrade now underway |
| Strangelv | "Many thanks |
| SlavekB | Strangelv: Incidentally, the name R13.1 is a nice idea. I also thought of such a designation... |
| Strangelv | "It's been mentioned a few times, thus my referring to it as such |
| Strangelv | "I don't remember who said it first. I can't even rule out the possibility that it might have been me |
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| SlavekB | Strangelv: :) |
| Strangelv | If we effectively alreadyp have 13.1, why haven't we released it already as such? What's the do do checklist for doing that? |
| SlavekB | It occurred to me that 1 May would be nice for the official release date R13.1 - just six months after the release of R13. |
| Strangelv | "good point |
| SlavekB | But I do not know whether this is feasible. |
| Strangelv | Who would know the things to do? Should we create a R13.1 page on etherpad? |
| SlavekB | SAK is still broken... :( |
| * Strangelv can never remember to grab the link to log in to Etherpad or how to find the pages on etherpad | |
| Strangelv | Is there a way to disable it by default or remove it altogether? |
| SlavekB | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/16 |
| SlavekB | List of fixes at the moment is probably not complete but sufficient. |
| Strangelv | How many of thoes are completed? |
| * SlavekB would probably be able to complete the list | |
| SlavekB | Aside from the SAK and #922 is all fixed. |
| * Strangelv cheers | |
| SlavekB | But it's still a few things that are not listed there and are not fixed. |
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| SlavekB | For example: #615, #744 |
| Strangelv | "I must admit I'm more interested in a major improvement than a comprehensive one. After all, if it's easy enough to post the updote, we could post an R13.2 |
| SlavekB | It is true that it is better to have R13.1 with repairs than the original R13. :) |
| Strangelv | "Another way to put it: if we have the repairs for 13.1, why do we have 13.0 as the main available one? |
| * Strangelv needs between 1 and 13 hours to finish DLing the upgrade. The estimate varies wildly... | |
| Strangelv | If possible, we also ought to have a reference distro DL. It doesn't have to be ubuntu -- there's at last one Debian-based distro that uses TDE |
| SlavekB | PPA is not on the mirror sites, so it is available .... slowly. |
| SlavekB | As the official release would be on the mirror sites ... |
| Strangelv | Do you know the steps for gethting that accomplished? |
| SlavekB | I intend to send to mailinglist proposal with the term 1. May and questions on the steps to prepare release. |
| Strangelv | Sounds good |
| SlavekB | But now it probably cannot do - should I go to sleep ;) |
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| * Strangelv stares at ERROR: ld.so: object '/opt/kde3/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. | |
| * Strangelv : cp /opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so /opt/kde3/lib/kgtk/ | |
| * Strangelv still sees no graphics in the Konqueror interface | |
| * Strangelv again stares at: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'. | |
| * Strangelv had hoped that would go away with teh upgrade to 13.1 | |
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| Strangelv | Hello |
| Strangelv | :: tries restarting TDE, despite the fact that this sort f thing almost never makes any difference with Linux |
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| * Strangelv trades one set of technical difficulties for another | |
| Strangelv | Logging out doesn't work correctly. it giwves me a saving session dialogue even though I'm set to reload a manually saved session; I get a KDE [sic] Notification that says that the logout was cancelled by /usr/bin/mobloquer or was it moblocker? -- then it just sits there. xorg doesn't restart when manually killed, and visiting TTY8 after trying locks up the machine |
| Strangelv | :: sees that inkscape still crashes on startup and load file |
| Strangelv | "at least Konqueror works correctly again |
| Strangelv | Also, the wallpaper for the kdm-trinity login screen is whatever junk is in the frame buffer |
| * Strangelv purges, disables backports and updates, reinstalls, and has the same problem with the earlier version of inkscape. Presumably there's a broken dependancy | |
| * Strangelv --reinstalls all dependancies; no change | |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 394 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=394 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Problems with DCOP After Using kdesu |
| Strangelv | drat |
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| rzs19 | Strangelv: i gotthe same problem,wehn ussing twinview. |
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| Strangelv | rzs19: any guesses on how to fix this sort of problem? I'm presuming this is an irreproducible situation with Inkscape. I'm not so sure about the problem with the splash screen. Has anyone else had that problem with 13.1? |
| Strangelv | s/splash/login/ |
| Strangelv | \I've also been having a lot of trouble selecting a number of desktops and having them when I restart. it normally reverts back to 4, but after my upgrade it's now reverting back to 2. I've started using six. |
| rzs19 | 13.1 ? |
| Strangelv | The version in SlavekB's repository |
| rzs19 | distribution? |
| Strangelv | I'm running Ubuntu. I'm not sure which other ones are there |
| rzs19 | i think, we need to wait for 3.5.14. |
| Strangelv | Okay, looks like only Ubuntu right now |
| Strangelv | 13.1 is pretty much a fait accompli, though |
| Strangelv | He's saying we could easily release it at the end of the month |
| rzs19 | i hope... |
| Strangelv | Not an upgrade, just stomped bugs |
| * Strangelv looks at SlavekB | |
| rzs19 | before we need new features,we need less bugs. :) |
| rzs19 | all in all its quit usable. |
| rzs19 | there are no other alternatives. |
| Strangelv | Okay, there may be packages for squeeze as well, which I believe is Debian |
| Strangelv | 14 makes some changes from 13 |
| rzs19 | for which version? |
| Strangelv | This doesn't have those changes |
| rzs19 | 3.5.14? |
| Strangelv | 13.1 |
| Strangelv | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu/dists/ |
| rzs19 | inoffical? |
| Strangelv | presently unofficial. We need to change that I believe |
| Strangelv | SlavekB wants to squish at least two more bugs. Then we need packages forl other distros I believe |
| * Strangelv is trying and failing to find the etherpad for it. It's /6 or /16 or similar | |
| rzs19 | would be nice, if it really will fix bugs. |
| Strangelv | It's what I'm running right now as of a few hours ago. 8) |
| Strangelv | "...on this machine, that is. My other desktop is still running R12 |
| rzs19 | uptime: 116 days :P |
| Strangelv | Nice! |
| rzs19 | running TDE under Debian. |
| rzs19 | would be much more, but there was a power failure -.- |
| Strangelv | AFAIK, I've only exceeded 100 days twice. On both of my machines fairly recently. Or did this one not exceed 100? The other one I had a planned shutdown after IIRC 130 days |
| Strangelv | "I'd been procrastinating on it a coupleof weeks |
| Strangelv | "Okay, this one was 70-something or 80-something, which earlier thins year was a record for me. I've always had power glidtches or similar take things down. My dying uninterruptable power suppyl went from being inadequate to being an active nuisance... |
| rzs19 | kernel security updates and other updates destroy sometimes my uptime... |
| Strangelv | defective and dying |
| Strangelv | slightest power hiccup, UPS screams at a hearing-damaging volume and doesn't shut up until you power down your machine. That's what UPSs are for, right? |
| rzs19 | maybe? ;) |
| rzs19 | hm, need a new job... |
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| rzs19 | chicky |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 547 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=547 wishlist, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, gtk-qt-engine does not support GTK3 |
| MutantTurkey | yes that's me |
| rzs19 | what is with the ncurses-qt-engine? hm? |
| MutantTurkey | what |
| MutantTurkey | i wish |
| MutantTurkey | -_- |
| rzs19 | you wish? |
| rzs19 | no, no. i wish! |
| rzs19 | "i wish, the warder would give that squirrel less drugs and spend him an englisch course" lala |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| rzs19 | :D |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| rzs19 | just one hour work remaining... i'm happy :) |
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| MutantTurkey | rzs19: I just got to school hah |
| rzs19 | -.- |
| rzs19 | yeah but in some years, you alos must go to work! |
| rzs19 | and then, i'm rich, soo damn rich, that there is no money left, so you can't get rich... that is logic... |
| MutantTurkey | er |
| MutantTurkey | ok! |
| rzs19 | think posetiv, without me, it would be half so funny, or? |
| MutantTurkey | :-) heh |
| rzs19 | and now i need to go home, to learn java... |
| rzs19 | i wish that this was a joke :( |
| MutantTurkey | no please don't |
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| Borg^Queen | hi hi |
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| Borg^Queen | Its back! Wild turkey time! |
| Borg^Queen | brb crakmonkey at the door |
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| Borg^Queen | kn people |
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| Strangelv | :: sees SlavekB is already IPv6 compliant. Strangelv's ISP isn't, despite being fully optical |
| SlavekB | Strangelv: It is not, that could do it my provider - I have run miredo. |
| Strangelv | miredo? |
| * Strangelv was looking at (~slavek@2001:0:d91f:cca0:380d:62c5:a64e:f4a5) | |
| SlavekB | Miredo == ipv6 tunnel using teredo ;) |
| SlavekB | Debian package miredo... |
| Strangelv | "Tunneling through NATs. I may want to do some research before starting that, lest I get 0wned immediately |
| * Strangelv goes back to trying to use GIMP as a sumstitute for Inkscape. If he takes too long he'll print the fo9rms and fill them out by hand | |
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| rzs19 | good morning |
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| rzs19 | möben! |
| schreiberstein | amöben |
| rzs19 | möwen |
| schreiberstein | ...die habe ich schon lange nicht mehr hier gesehen.. ab und zu flattern die hier aber mal rum |
| rzs19 | die sind ausgewandert, gibt sicher bald einen bericht auf rtl. |
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| calamari | hi. I'm using blueman, which works great, but it is being loaded twice. My assumption/guess is that one is from blueman, and the other is from kde restoring my previous session. How can I figure out for sure? |
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| calamari | well I've traced back my blueman problem.. there's definitely a bug in blueman.. however, kdeinit is also calling blueman twice, for seemingly no reason (the ppid is to the same kdeinit for both processes) |
| calamari | if anyone around understands how kde starts up a session, I'd appreciate help in figuring this out :) |
| SpaceMan | try the trinty dev mailing list |
| rzs19 | ask moses |
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| rzs19 | chicky is gone... bad bad |
| calamari | SpaceMan: okay thanks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 959 filed by s-trinity@hilft.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=959 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Squeeze: Current libqt3-mt package dependencies don't give a working Trinity desktop |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 960 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=960 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, libkipi is not the latest compatible version |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 961 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=961 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kipi-plugins is not the latest compatible version |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 962 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=962 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gwenview and digikam do not build correctly with kipi-plugins support |
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| rzs19 | hmm, where can i set the default view of konqueror? |
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| Strangelv | That used to be possible with eariler versions |
| Strangelv | "I dont' know what that functionality was removed but I would very much like it to be reenabled |
| Strangelv | No, I don't remember what menu it was in |
| rzs19 | oh i got it :D |
| rzs19 | just changed the view and stored it under the default profile "file managment" |
| rzs19 | strange that it has not worked the last time, i must have maked something wrong... |
| rzs19 | The Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair - sahme on me :D |
| Strangelv | "So it may be a case of replacing a control in a menu iwth something far less intuitive? That sounds like something GNOME would do |
| rzs19 | okay another one, you remember splitting in kate? in kdevelop3 it does not work in the same way |
| Strangelv | Kate does splitting? |
| rzs19 | a opened document does not show up in the view whitch has the focus, it shows up in the first view |
| rzs19 | yep in kate i can split my view |
| rzs19 | like in konqueror i can do |
| rzs19 | but in kdevelop3 it does not work in the same way. |
| Strangelv | hmm |
| rzs19 | when i click on a fiel, it will always popup in the firs view an not in that with the focus, so i need always to close the second one, to opne a new one. |
| rzs19 | file* |
| Strangelv | ::fails to find profile filemanagement or similar in Konqueror |
| rzs19 | hm.. |
| rzs19 | when i open a new tab, than the settings are lost, or a nother one is used? no inheritance? |
| * Strangelv may have found it in a place he was basically ignoring as unimportant | |
| Strangelv | "If that's where to set it, I didn't succeed, or I'd need to coles the instance to actually save it |
| Strangelv | "or something. I'm up past my bedtime and it's catching up with me |
| rzs19 | what ever, i'm to tired to think about it, how it work an how it selects it default profile... |
| Strangelv | The menu option was simple, intuitive, and worked |
| rzs19 | yeah but than open a new tab |
| rzs19 | i don't wantto set it for every new tab |
| Strangelv | "I seem to remember it working, but not which version of KDE 3 I last saw it in |
| Strangelv | "Before 3.5 |
| rzs19 | maybe i should isntall opensuse in a directory and take a look on their kde version |
| rzs19 | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-912910-start-0.html hmm global settings? |
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| rzs19 | hey :) |
| rzs19 | do you have any clue how to set the default view for konqueror? |
| rzs19 | when i'm open a new tab, than he does not take the last selected view. |
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| SpaceMan | rzs19: file associations / inode / directory / embedding / Move your preffered view to the top / OK, save, etc |
| SpaceMan | it may help |
| rzs19 | damn, your kde config god! |
| rzs19 | okay and how can i embedded konsole as kpart in a splitted view? |
| SpaceMan | I don't know |
| rzs19 | maybe i should buy a development book about kde3 and qt3 ... |
| MutantTurkey | SpaceMan: thanks |
| MutantTurkey | that had me too :[ |
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| Harmonium | hey guise, can I install Trinity in Ubuntu Oneiric through the repositories offered in Trinity's site without it conflicting with an official KDE4 installation? |
| rzs19 | there should be no problem, if the paths are set correct? i don't have tried it. |
| rzs19 | but you could make a debootstrap into a directory and install both in it, after that you could start a lxc, connect you over xdmcp and simulate it? |
| rzs19 | is faster then a vm like vbox, qemu/kvm, save way to test it :) |
| rzs19 | well, damn you need a bridge, maybe not so easy :D |
| Harmonium | Sounds like too much trouble. I tested it on a VM already and it looked good enough. I don't really use KDE4, but many of its programs, and I'd rather not uninstall it just now. |
| rzs19 | forgott all that newstuff, we got an DeLorean. lets go back to KDE3.5 Times and where ppl loved X11 network transparency... |
| Harmonium | I used Gnome since KDE4 came out, then the Gnome team got high on fluoride and came up with that... thing. Now I run MATE, the Gnome2 fork. They renamed every package so as not to conflict with any Gnome package. I take it Trinity didn't do the same? :( |
| MutantTurkey | Harmonium: there shouldn't be a problem |
| MutantTurkey | I'm pretty sure it works well |
| Harmonium | OK. I'll try to go as straightforward as I can. If a problem arises, I'll stop. Dependency problems are no fun. |
| rzs19 | so much TDE lovers, thats what i call ~ |
| MutantTurkey | Harmonium: should be good |
| Harmonium | What's the "builddeps" repository for? |
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| Harmonium | This repository: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/ What is it for? |
| MutantTurkey | errrr for uh |
| MutantTurkey | the build dependencies |
| MutantTurkey | i assume |
| MutantTurkey | you probably won't need them but have the repo enabled anyhow |
| MutantTurkey | incase it pulls them in |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 963 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=963 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Digikam can't create an initial database |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 963 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=963 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Digikam can't create an initial database |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 962 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=962 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, gwenview and digikam do not build correctly with kipi-plugins support |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 241 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=241 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Missing image plugins in digiKam after r1076911 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 890 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=890 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Fix kdebase translations in desktop files - part 2 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 819 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=819 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, automake build error: unary operator expected |
| * Space_Man wishes tbottu would stop spamming bug reporters email addresses | |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 964 filed by eqimma-297@yopmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=964 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Stop tbottu spamming email |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 965 filed by eqimma-297@yopmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=965 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Tbottu IRC logging? |
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| MutantTurkey | wee oh wub |
| rzs19 | ola |
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| MutantTurkey | hola |
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| MutantTurkey | yup |
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| MutantTurkey | workiing on mac switching |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| rzs19 | i try to find a fsc m640 tower ... |
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| MutantTurkey | got it working!!! |
| rzs19 | what? |
| rzs19 | what are you trying? |
| Space_Man | I think he's trying to turn an apple mac on and off :P |
| rzs19 | there is a power button? :D |
| Space_Man | there used to be |
| Space_Man | I had a very old eMac |
| Space_Man | that had a power button on the side somewhere |
| rzs19 | i have a G3, or G4 here ,don't know, is old, i have used it as thin client |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: I hate my old macs... |
| MutantTurkey | what? |
| MutantTurkey | no no no |
| MutantTurkey | Alt + ~ on a mac lets you switch between windows of the same application type |
| MutantTurkey | so if you want to switch to the Downloads window of firefox |
| MutantTurkey | you just hit alt+~ in firefox |
| MutantTurkey | and it will bring the netx firefox window |
| MutantTurkey | up |
| MutantTurkey | very useful |
| rzs19 | amazing... |
| MutantTurkey | implementing it in trinity's window manager. |
| rzs19 | i wish, trinity where more lightweight. |
| rzs19 | damn i'm frustrated, maybe i should kill ppl with a old 6,25" ST-506 HDD, and scream "i'm a geekish killer" |
| rzs19 | 5* |
| rzs19 | and.. and that geek, or nerd girls are to young, they don't understand "can i be boot disk of your floppy drive?". They look at you, a little bit confused and ask "WHUT?" years to late... yes i'm years to late... :( |
| rzs19 | you say "walkman" they say "oh you mean the new smartphone from sony ericsson? thats soo cool..." |
| rzs19 | or you want to play kknd, e2140, dungeon keeper, they .. don't know it.. i need a DeLorean :/ |
| rzs19 | anyone sell one? |
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| MutantTurkey | yes i would be nice |
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| MutantTurkey | trinity isn't so heavy though |
| rzs19 | yeahit is not so heavy, but it could be a little more lightweight |
| MutantTurkey | in what area's? |
| rzs19 | and it should have boobs! <3 |
| rzs19 | the trinity menu is slow over nfs |
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| rzs19 | and maybe a theme which uses plain x11 to draw. |
| rzs19 | not sending bitmaps |
| rzs19 | no gradient, no shadows, no fancy effects, thaht would bei nice? |
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| rzs19 | simple kwin and qt3 theme |
| rzs19 | just simple. |
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| rzs19 | and a centra lpont to disable effects |
| rzs19 | point* |
| rzs19 | do oyu know what i mean? |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 901 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=901 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Concatenation of tdegraphics libs string causing build fail due to CMake policy CMP0004 |
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| Space_Man | interesting comment posted on slashdot http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2789787&cid=39701313 |
| Space_Man | "Of course, what I'd really prefer is KDE3, but pearson seems to be rather slow in making that usable [under the name trinity]" |
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| SlavekB | Over the weekend, unfortunately I was busy. Preparing the 3.5.13 update thus had to wait. |
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| MutantTurkey | woop woop it's done! |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 869 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=869 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, PATCHAVAIL, kwin: Implement Mac like window switching |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 660 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=660 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, There are no Help files (Handbook) |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 515 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=515 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, aKregator run error |
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| rzs19 | gn8 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 653 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=653 enhancement, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Reduce TDE Menu Clutter and Duplication |
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| sharp15 | is trinity still using qt3 or did they move to qt4? |
| SlavekB | sharp15: About migration to qt4 It's not that simple. Porting TDE fully to Qt4 is easily 5-10 years of solid work with current manpower. |
| SlavekB | sharp15: from http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::6439 |
| sharp15 | SlavekB: ok. thats fine. i was sure it would be a lot of work. i just didn't see anything aproxmating a roadmap/goals document on http://www.trinitydesktop.org |
| sharp15 | SlavekB: also. thanks for the response. |
| SlavekB | sharp15: Far as I know so porting to qt4 was at present rejected. |
| sharp15 | ok. |
| SlavekB | sharp15: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/RoadMap |
| SlavekB | sharp15: the roadmap is not quite current |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 817 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=817 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tqca: No tqca package exists for the new tqt3 |
| sharp15 | SlavekB: thank you. that answers my questions. |
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| MutantTurkey | ey ya oh |
| rzs19 | jo jo jo |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Oh, your improvements in Bugzilla is great! |
| MutantTurkey | you can see it? great :-) |
| MutantTurkey | that's darrells idea |
| SlavekB | very good idea |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| MutantTurkey | I stick with deskzilla though :p |
| SlavekB | I wanted to add bookmarks from Darrell's mail to Konqueror ... but this is much better |
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| MutantTurkey | indeed |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| MutantTurkey | i wish there was a good way to keep tabs on who was here |
| rzs19 | hmm, i'm to tired to sleep... |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 948 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=948 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Rosegarden: FTBFS when liblo is not installed |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 817 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=817 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tqca: No tqca package exists for the new tqt3 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 898 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 898 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=898 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, tsak process taking 90-100% of CPU |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 898 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 898 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 966 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=966 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ksnapshot fails to bring window to front before snapshot with 'window under cursor' selected |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Please, what are the prospects regarding patch for bug 258? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=258 normal, P1, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, ksmserver: Logout confirmation fadeaway is too slow with older hardware |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: what bugs is that? |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | sorry |
| MutantTurkey | yes the prospercts are I am lazy and need to do it |
| SlavekB | :) |
| SlavekB | I've found Git patch from Tim to SAK, and I would like to soon release an update for kdebase 3.5.13. |
| SlavekB | I had intended to give even your patch for #258 :) |
| MutantTurkey | to the update? |
| MutantTurkey | this can wait till R14 it is not a major bug and is easy to manually adjust |
| SlavekB | Yes. |
| SlavekB | Ok |
| MutantTurkey | have you tried my mac switching patch? |
| SlavekB | No, not yet. Now I have a lot of work with backport number of other patches. |
| MutantTurkey | okay |
| MutantTurkey | it's also not very important |
| MutantTurkey | I see tim juts pushed that tsak patch recently |
| SlavekB | I assumed it would also let up to R14. |
| SlavekB | Yes - I have already backported SAK patch and ps2 keyboard is alive! |
| SlavekB | If I'm not integrate patch for the #258, then I can release an updated kdebase in my PPA soon. |
| MutantTurkey | ahhh I JUST GOT JALEPENYOO IN MY EYES |
| MutantTurkey | OWWWWWWW |
| MutantTurkey | THERE BLEEDING |
| MutantTurkey | sorry |
| MutantTurkey | do you know how many people are using it |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 967 filed by info@j-pfennig.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=967 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KJSEmbed (as kjscmd) broken: DCOPInterface::publish or KTextEdit::setText |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 952 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=952 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, TDEBase, TDELibs translation to Russian and Ukrainian update |
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| GnuSense | Hey folks, I installed Trinity for squeeze on a Mepis8 box upgraded to Debian Squeeze (no Mepis repos left) and when I tried to start TDE I got a 'kdeinit' failed sort of message. I think I have this issue: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::1750 |
| GnuSense | apt-cache policy libqt3-mt gives me this: libqt3-mt: |
| GnuSense | Installed: 3:3.3.8b-7+b1 |
| GnuSense | Candidate: 3:3.3.8b-7+b1 |
| GnuSense | Version table: |
| GnuSense | 3:3.3.8d-0ubuntu0+sr73+pr181~squeeze 0 |
| GnuSense | 500 http://192.168.223.180/trinity/ squeeze/main i386 Packages |
| GnuSense | *** 3:3.3.8b-7+b1 0 |
| GnuSense | 800 http://192.168.223.180/debian/ squeeze/main i386 Packages |
| GnuSense | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| GnuSense | I gather I need the Ubuntu package 3:3.3.8d-0ubuntu0+sr73+pr181~squeeze 0, but apt-get install only gives me the standard squeeze one. How can I force the system to select the '8d' package? |
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| Strangelv | :: ponders GNUSense's question, but is probably not the optimal person to answer |
| GnuSense | I just downloaded and manually installed the deb file, seems to work, don't know why this was an issue on this box, never had it before. |
| * Strangelv still hasn't gotten Inkscape to stop crashing despite throwing everything he could think of at it shold of a clean operating system install | |
| Strangelv | "Okay, good |
| GnuSense | libqt3-mt: |
| GnuSense | Installed: 3:3.3.8d-0ubuntu0+sr73+pr181~squeeze |
| Strangelv | "Anything before I'm unavailable for a few hours? |
| GnuSense | The other person who reported this issue also had a Mepis install. I really don't see what Mepis brings to the table except a bunch of weird inconsistancies with Debian. |
| Strangelv | IIRC it had a lot of weird inconsistencies with Ubuntu as well |
| Strangelv | "I've not kept up with whether or not Ubuntu continues to have weird inconsistencies with Debian |
| Strangelv | I do remember discovering firsthand how things went about 6 years ago... installing DOSBox uninstalls multimedia applications, et c. |
| GnuSense | I used to install it because Mepis installed some codecs, but that is a trivial task these days and I spent faaaaar more time unballing what Warren Woodford thought were sane defaults. |
| Strangelv | "I mut admit it's been a long time since CODECs were a problem |
| Strangelv | "for me, at least |
| Strangelv | ...although they were the primary reason I had a Debian repository set up in my sources.list in 2005/2006... |
| * Strangelv came to Kubuntu as a Libranet (minor Debian variant) refugee | |
| GnuSense | I remember Libranet, seemed like a nice KDE distro at the time. |
| Strangelv | I didn't have the money to upgrade to 3.0 until it all crashed and burned. 8( |
| * Strangelv was one of hthe people who paid for 2.8.1 right before it became the free version | |
| Strangelv | "Technically it wasn't a KDE distro, but it handled whatever you installed easily, and let you switch back and forth easily. I've started to miss it moer lately as Ubuntu jumps the shark |
| Strangelv | I became spoiled by the regular stable versions that aren't obsolete, although TDE's packaging problems meant I've been stuck with Meerkat (10.10) for a lot longer than I'd planned |
| Strangelv | Those have been solved and I've got this machine running 13.1, but now I need to upgrade the Ubuntu part multiple steps... |
| GnuSense | Well, the new Ubuntu LTS to be released this month is supposed to be supported on the desktop for 5 years, so that's what I'm going to start installing even though I'm not wild about the beta that I've tried. |
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| Strangelv | It's what I'm planning to upgrade towards. I must admit, I'm not sure what to migrate to if Ubuntu continues to go downhill |
| Strangelv | A few months ago someone in here said that the problem with Gnome is that its developers believe their users drank lead paint as children. Ubuntu is going even further in that direction... |
| Strangelv | I must admit I've not used Unity at all. I just looked at the screenshots and read the descriptions recoiled in horror. |
| * Strangelv looks for the precient Dilbert cartoon | |
| * Strangelv : http://www.dilbert.com/fast/1995-03-25/ | |
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| GnuSense | Unity and Gnome3 suck big time as desktop interfaces for a regular computer (at least if you are attracted to KDE with its configurability and choice), but they have much to say for them on a living room media center (TV) or netbook. I think Linux desktop interface peaked about 2008-9 with KDE 3.5x and Gnome 2.30, but luckily with Trinity and Mate you can still keep using what works for you. I'll probably install Kubuntu |
| Space_Man | what is the best method to install ubuntu and trinity? |
| Space_Man | without the unity desktop |
| GnuSense | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php |
| GnuSense | If you don't want Unity install xubuntu, kubuntu or whatever. Check out this page, as well: http://ubuntublog.org/ubuntu-12-04/ |
| GnuSense | It has instructions for removing Unity and installing Trinity |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 554 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| tbottu | 10james@nurealm.net changed the Status on bug 554 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| Strangelv | Gräßlin is again hoping to get TDE switched over to KWin. |
| Strangelv | Here's a question that betrays my lack of understanding of KWin: Is there a possibility of separating out the Qt specific code? |
| Strangelv | "or stuffing it into a wrapper so that as far as it knows it's using Qt4 or Qt5? |
| rzs19 | what is he writing? |
| Strangelv | "He's unabrle to see a reason for maintaininga fork of KWin. Every reason he can think of for maintaining a separete TDE is something that, as best as he can tell, doesn't apply to KWin |
| Strangelv | "He believes it could work nicely for both projects |
| Strangelv | He also seems unaware of our preference for Qt3 over its successors |
| Strangelv | He may have some valid points. I'm not inside any codebases, let alone the KWin/TWin codebases to evaluate his assertions |
| Strangelv | His bias in favor of believing that KDE 4.something takes care of all of our reasons for wanting to maintain the fork are also obsolete, but he doesn't dwell on them -- it just sort of naturally bleeds through |
| Strangelv | "This is on the trinity-devel list |
| * Strangelv could have phrased that more carefully, but has been up for too long | |
| rzs19 | well, qt5 neeeds opengl, or? |
| rzs19 | i need soemthign that will work over x11, over network |
| rzs19 | and not a gl monster |
| rzs19 | i need a complex desktop and not a desktop adventure game |
| rzs19 | with fancy colors, and effects |
| rzs19 | ppl don't understand that, no clue why... |
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| Strangelv | I'm actually unfamiliar with Qt5 |
| Strangelv | I've been spread too thin with other things to pay enough attention |
| Strangelv | Are you the one who suggested the straight up code defined theme with no graphics or similar features? |
| Strangelv | It seems an excellent idea -- especially if your aim is to be both highrly mature and highly configurable |
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| Strangelv | Gräßlin is again hoping to unify TWin and KWin. trinity-devel list |
| * Strangelv doesn't know what would be needed to encapsulate it to make it believe Qt3 is Qt4 or Qt5 | |
| MutantTurkey | I replied to him privately |
| MutantTurkey | Strangelv: for the record his points are all valid |
| MutantTurkey | and Qt5 is not going to require as much of a rewrite than qt4 |
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| MobileTurkey | Strangelv: oh well |
| MobileTurkey | he is persisent i'll admit |
| Strangelv | :: sleepily tries to copy and paste things he said when MutantTurkey was offline |
| Strangelv | <Strangelv> Here's a question that betrays my lack of understanding of KWin: Is there a possibility of separating out the Qt specific code? |
| Strangelv | <Strangelv> "or stuffing it into a wrapper so that as far as it knows it's using Qt4 or Qt5? |
| Strangelv | :: falls asleep so the call right back he's been expecting for more than haldf an hour will arrive. Or maybe the doorbell |
| MobileTurkey | err ok! |
| msb_ | I'm interested in discussing Martin Graesslin's latest message to the list, and I gather that's what you folks are doing, but I only entered the channel a few minutes ago. Is the previous discussion archived anywhere? |
| msb_ | Or if someone wants to copy it out of their IRC client log and mail it to me, I'm mark@cosmicpenguin.com |
| msb_ | Anyhow, doesn't KWin4 use compositing all the time? And doesn't compositing still cause problems with some graphic cards and drivers? (I never use it, as I have no wish for transparent or wiggly windows.) |
| MobileTurkey | I don't have it i disconnected. |
| MobileTurkey | I don't have a wish for those things either, but they can be removed easily |
| MobileTurkey | btw msb_ are you on the development list? |
| rzs19 | another problem is, that nvidias glx implementation does not work over network, so thaht it will fall back to software rendering, there is an not finished implementation from nvidia, but i could not get it to work. |
| rzs19 | so indirect rendering makes no fun |
| MobileTurkey | okay those are valid concerns |
| msb_ | Also KWin 4 depends on libplasma and kdelibs 4, so wouldn't using KWin4 in TDE be "the nose of the camel in the tent" for replacing TDE with KDE4? |
| MobileTurkey | msb_: currently it does |
| msb_ | I'm on the trinity-devel list. |
| MobileTurkey | with KDE Frameworks 5 it will be much lessened. |
| rzs19 | and is kwin4 not extramly heavy, becouse it is not modular, so it always loads the effects, or is that an old problem? |
| MobileTurkey | they are modularizing the libraries so it won't pull in more |
| MobileTurkey | rzs19: again, build options will allow us to modify and strip it down |
| rzs19 | oh sry, i overread that :) |
| msb_ | AFAIK, KDE4 still does not show the desktop names clearly in the desktop pager. When I asked Graesslin about this in a comment to his third anti-Trinity web publication on his blog, he answered that he doesn't use the pager. |
| MobileTurkey | err well if he doesn't use the pager i don't expect him to talk about it |
| MobileTurkey | he at least does admit when he knows or doesn't know his subject |
| msb_ | It seems to me that KDE4 is a very different system from KDE3, and KDE4 has many problems, even down to its fundamental feature set. So we should keep TDE entirely separate. |
| msb_ | The problem with the pager is that if a person is using a lot of desktops (which I do), it's necessary to see their names in the pager buttons. |
| msb_ | So the KDE4 pager cripples the use of multiple desktops, which are extremely useful for a lot of people for having separate workspaces for their various projects and activities. |
| MobileTurkey | msb_: that is a small enough feature I could code it. |
| MobileTurkey | they don't like to use multiple desktops as much anymore, now focusing on activities |
| MobileTurkey | but KWIN is seperate from kde basically |
| MobileTurkey | it does use kde libraries |
| MobileTurkey | but it's an independant team and they do support other use ases |
| MobileTurkey | cases' |
| msb_ | Even I coded it, but I hacked out the useless stuff -- window outlines -- so I couldn't suggest it to the KDE4 devs. |
| MobileTurkey | read this |
| MobileTurkey | "luckily this is not the case. First of all there is no such thing like "kde" kde is a community of developers producing different products. I assume you mean with kde our workspaces "KDE Plasma". In fact KWin is part of the KDE Plasma Workspaces but that does not mean that we are heavily integrated into those. As mentioned there are three desktop shells we currently support which makes it impossible to heavily integrate into one. I |
| MobileTurkey | am aiming at getting all workspace integration to runtime." |
| MobileTurkey | that's from martin to me |
| msb_ | AFAICT, "activities" does not have a small simple pager. |
| msb_ | That's another thing: what exactly is "Plasma". They introduced that word without ever defining it. It's like an advertising word. |
| msb_ | Linux needs to have a non-bloated (feature and size) DE, which gives the features that people -- even power users -- need for using their computer effectively, and NOT a lot of other junk like 200 bling customizations that KDE4 has. |
| MobileTurkey | okay I see you point |
| MobileTurkey | TDE has lots of bloat though :-) |
| MobileTurkey | it just seems less now |
| msb_ | It needs to work with all computers, even those whose graphic system has problems with compositing. |
| msb_ | MobileTurkey: What kinds of bloat in TDE? |
| MobileTurkey | artsd for example |
| MobileTurkey | non-modular design also leads to bloat |
| msb_ | Is artsd needed for ALSA? |
| MobileTurkey | for example tdecore library is one giant bloat library, and not all functions are used |
| MobileTurkey | msb_: it's used for everything is kde unless you compile without |
| MobileTurkey | but kde applications use it |
| msb_ | artsd or tdecore? |
| MobileTurkey | artds |
| msb_ | I thought artsd was a sound demon? |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| MobileTurkey | artsd |
| MobileTurkey | it's a waste of space i my opinion |
| msb_ | Can ALSA be used without artsd? |
| MobileTurkey | no idea |
| MobileTurkey | possibly |
| msb_ | Because some systems, like mine, need ALSA. It's the most widely compatible Linux sound system. |
| msb_ | My 6 year old ASUS mobo won't work with the phonon system that KDE4 seems to insist on. |
| msb_ | Linux with a good DE (and KDE3/TDE is much better than any other) needs to be available to everyone in the world, even people with older computers. |
| msb_ | KDE3 with whatever bloat it has, has been working great for many years. If it gets infected with dependencies on KDE4, it will get wrecked. |
| msb_ | The KDE4 devs put bling customization at the top of their list of features, while multiple desktops, extremely important to people who use their computers for many purposes, is still broken. |
| msb_ | I've been told that the KDE4 feature list was selected and prioritized by "focus groups" populated almost entirely by random MS-Windows users (who had never known the benefits of KDE3, and many of whom were newbies anyhow). |
| msb_ | This was done by Novell while Novell was involved in various collaborations with Microsoft. |
| msb_ | Secret collaborations. |
| msb_ | If KDE4 becomes the popular default DE of Linux, as KDE3 was before, then some very important features of Linux get sabotaged: runnability on any PC, virtual desktops with rapid easy switching, even easy manual retraction of panels so the entire display space can be used. |
| msb_ | And we are at the mercy of people like Martin Graesslin, who seems to be very hostile and nasty in his three published articles attacking Trinity. |
| msb_ | Is KDE4 a Microsoft plot to sabotage Linux? I don't know, but there is evidence pointing in that direction. |
| msb_ | People who practice an open paradigm need to be vigilant against subtle attacks by those who don't, like Microsoft. |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html |
| MobileTurkey | everybode uses alsa, even phonon |
| MobileTurkey | I like italian jazz |
| MobileTurkey | because I can't understand it |
| MobileTurkey | but the words are smooth like silk |
| MobileTurkey | they slide across my ears perfectly |
| MobileTurkey | but I don't need to focus on it |
| MobileTurkey | perfect background |
| rzs19 | ile like the track "Tineoidea (WerHatAnDerUhrGedreht RMX) " sounds so fragile... |
| MobileTurkey | http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/103120 |
| MobileTurkey | listening to this now |
| rzs19 | you just hear a piona with a crackling noise in the background, sounds soo...indescribable... |
| rzs19 | piono* |
| msb_ | rzs19: can Tineoidea be heard online? |
| MobileTurkey | I miss loner :[ |
| MobileTurkey | haven't seen him in some time |
| MobileTurkey | Strangelv: did you send in that libart patch? |
| MobileTurkey | says from "James" |
| rzs19 | i don't know, so much videos got deleted on youtube... |
| rzs19 | this was a accoustic version from "Samsas Traum" |
| rzs19 | sounds really nice. |
| rzs19 | wassome old good stuff, i don't like much of the new songs... |
| rzs19 | so and i need to go home, see you later :) |
| MobileTurkey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGFgppnkR4A&feature=related |
| MobileTurkey | these guys are from my home town |
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| MobileTurkey | Strangelv: remember that mockup video you made with all those screenshots? |
| MobileTurkey | if you still have them you should email the good screens to tim to add to the website.. |
| MobileTurkey | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/screenshots.php |
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| rzs19 | oh, nice welcome back... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 968 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=968 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: Filelight-l10n Sym Links Incorrect |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 969 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=969 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: knutclient Sym Link Incorrect |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 970 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=970 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kvpnc: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 971 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=971 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: Kvpnc Sym Links Incorrect |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 916 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=916 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdesvn src/CMakeLists.txt hardcoded apr path causes build failure |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 972 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 974 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
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| sgasgar | hi |
| sgasgar | where can i find ebuilds for TDE? |
| Space_Man | what type of builds? |
| Space_Man | what is an ebuild? |
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| sgasgar | путещщ |
| sgasgar | gentoo ebuild |
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| * Strangelv wonders what would make for an appropriate set of code names for upcoming version,s experimental version,s experimental applications, et c. | |
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| Strangelv | MutantTurkey: I've not added anything as I still don't have an authentication for the GIT system |
| MutantTurkey | did you request it? |
| Strangelv | I don't remember seeing where to request one |
| Strangelv | Q: What would be a good source for code names for future versions, experimental forms, experimental applications, and the like for us? |
| Strangelv | This thought occured to me after reading some of the discussion about some of our legacy bloat |
| Strangelv | ie, what would be a name to tag an experimental fork that tried to eliminate as much that might be removabel as possible? |
| Strangelv | ...or an experimental KWin4 fork |
| SlavekB | I could also get access to git? I could go there to maintain 'stable' branch with 3.5.13 updates. |
| Strangelv | "Prsumably there's a seemingly obvious place to make a request that we've both failed to find |
| SlavekB | However, I must first learn how to properly use git :) |
| MutantTurkey | we need 2 branches |
| MutantTurkey | devel and master(stable) |
| SlavekB | I knew how to use branches in CVS |
| MutantTurkey | similar i think |
| Space_Man | and individual branches> |
| Space_Man | ? |
| MutantTurkey | http://whygitisbetterthanx.com/ |
| MutantTurkey | read about it |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| SlavekB | It is clear to me that GIT is better... |
| MutantTurkey | it is. |
| SlavekB | I just ... it still did not manage to learn :) |
| MutantTurkey | I am rather unhappy with what aleksey mindenkov said |
| SlavekB | ? |
| MutantTurkey | I watch TDE more than year and conclude that it has a number of serious shortages: |
| MutantTurkey | 1. Very small number of developers (3-4). |
| MutantTurkey | 2. No or weak development policy. The development is spontaneous. |
| MutantTurkey | 3. Insufficient development experience. |
| MutantTurkey | that's what he said |
| SlavekB | Oh, this. |
| MutantTurkey | this is all true, but the only solution is to continue working |
| MutantTurkey | since I joined up last year, we've grown definitely |
| MutantTurkey | each release is getting more features and is more stable. |
| MutantTurkey | I don't understand what his point is. |
| MutantTurkey | yes we have a small team, but that doesn't mean we give up. |
| MutantTurkey | the loss of samelian is rough though |
| SlavekB | I therefore try to stabilize the 3.5.13 - for users to see effort. |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | i love it |
| MutantTurkey | how many people use your packages do you know? |
| SlavekB | No, I do not know. |
| SlavekB | So I try to prepare as soon as possible to issue an official update. |
| SlavekB | Now I had the pleasure of patches for SAK. |
| rzs19 | who is aleksey mindenkov? |
| SlavekB | In truth - I am not a supporter of integration of KDE4 KWin. |
| SlavekB | TDE is now a comprehensive set of programs and dependence on "foreign" window manager seemed very impractical. |
| SlavekB | Just because different distributions can be very different versions of KDE4 - a very different versions of KWin. |
| SlavekB | I would say that it is now important to devote efforts to the completion of modifications and repairs to R14 than to start something else "break". |
| SlavekB | Indeed, Martin convinces us to use KWin 4.9, which is not even released. Before getting into the distributions, it will still take a long time. |
| SlavekB | And before that happens, so we had to distribute their own version of KWin 4.9 and everything depends on what? |
| Strangelv | I don't have enough information to make any suggestions on the KWin4 suggestion other than wonderinga bout a few things such as Qt3 support |
| Strangelv | ...But it would be nice to have one less thing to invest developer time on |
| SlavekB | I am afraid that we would on the contrary gave a lot of work to maintain it. |
| Strangelv | Very valid concern. It might end up being developed in a direction that tosses spanners at us |
| Strangelv | It would be nice to have control. Unfortunately, not many of us are up for diving into the coding |
| Strangelv | Finding p/laces to drop things would help us. artsd I seem to recall being mentioned yesterday or this morning as something we might not need |
| Strangelv | "That might be our incentive to simplify |
| Strangelv | where any improvement in user experience is a bonus, not the maino bjective... |
| Strangelv | well, direct improvement in user experience. Indirect ones would be highly likely |
| Strangelv | ie W gets elidminated, adding time to fix a bug in X and improve Y |
| Strangelv | "If W is something that's overhead anywoy, few people are likely to miss it |
| Strangelv | Wtas was the original purpose of artsd? Something to gloss over competing audio systems before ALSA became dominant? |
| SlavekB | In particular, also make mixing multiple sources at the time was widely used OSS (Open Sound System), which it could not. |
| Strangelv | So it had moer than one important purpose for which it's no longer needed |
| Strangelv | What's something else we could get rid of to cheers and applause? |
| SlavekB | Yes, now is arts not so necessary. |
| Strangelv | One thing I've wondered, thoug,h once TQt is working with Qt4 and Qt5, there's implications for KDE 4 aren't there |
| SlavekB | One thing is when KWin4 "can be used" with the Trinity. The second thing is the "throw away TWin". And Martin still uncompromisingly calls drop TWin. |
| Strangelv | "We still need it to do everything we want it to do. if he jettisons features we need we still end up with a fork, just a later one |
| Strangelv | Assuming, that is, that we bite in the first place, and I'm not one to appropriately vote in making the call |
| Strangelv | If we could treat it as an upstream item and get away with it it sounds very appealing to me, though |
| Strangelv | Obviously there's the operative worry: WOULD we get away with it, or would we get hit with a crlate full of spanners |
| Strangelv | and tire irons and crowbars and... |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: then state you feelings |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I agree with that statment" can be used" |
| MutantTurkey | that make sense |
| SlavekB | I would say: |
| SlavekB | Discard the arts - yes, we can - in the system is ALSA. |
| SlavekB | Discard HAL - yes we can - in the system is udev and other necessary things. |
| SlavekB | Drop TWin - hmm, but what then? |
| SlavekB | Let the external dependence - whether the user selects something? |
| SlavekB | That does not sound good to me. |
| SlavekB | Include in the Trinity distribution KWin4? But with all that depends on what? |
| SlavekB | That to me sounds even worse. |
| SlavekB | Redo KWin4 fork and backport it to QT3? |
| SlavekB | That sounds pretty crazy :) |
| Space_Man | can kwin be used with tqt or have I misunderstood the role of tqt? |
| SlavekB | I'm not sure. |
| SlavekB | I understand that it is now tqt to not be in conflict QT3 (ie newly tqt) with QT4. |
| Strangelv | We'd need a different wrapper than TQt -- it's the opposite of what we'd need for KWin4. I don't understand what it does to know if there's another solution -- such as abstacting out a core portion that doesn't dierctly interface with any version of Qt |
| Strangelv | "Someote said that Qt5 is wanting to work with 3D hardware. It may be that Qt is also migrating away from what we're wanting |
| MutantTurkey | THERE IS NO REASON TO BACKPORT ANYTHING |
| MutantTurkey | that is not trivial... |
| Strangelv | Migrate from Qt3 to a stock abstraction layer such as SDL? Yes, I'm brainstorming and more asleep than awake |
| msb_ | What would be the purpose of adopting kwin4? Doesn't twin work fine? Would the purpose be to stop Martin from yelling at Trinity people? |
| msb_ | I don't think it would stop him. |
| msb_ | He wrote three very nasty long articles trying to destroy Trinity entirely! |
| Strangelv | Theoretical purpose: reduce our workload by using a stock component maintained by a better funded party with more resources |
| Strangelv | "There is that -- could we trust him to not bleep us over |
| msb_ | But can we trust that party when he has already said Trinity should be destroyed? |
| msb_ | Said it many many times. |
| Strangelv | "That seems a fair question to throw back at him |
| Strangelv | How do we know we can trust him given his obvious biases and past public statements |
| msb_ | But people like that lie -- they don't admit their true motives or intentions. |
| Strangelv | His efforts to play nice witnh us may indicate that he doesn't lie very well |
| Strangelv | He'd do a much better job of playing nice with us if that was the case |
| msb_ | He's playing nice now to get a big foot in the door -- kwin4, maintained by him! |
| msb_ | And it seems to be working with some Trinity people. |
| Strangelv | Which also shows that his fundamental biales are unchanged even if he is tyring to get what he sees as a next best result -- us no longer what he sees as an obsolete and buggy implementation of what he's working on |
| msb_ | "biales" ? |
| msb_ | biases? |
| Strangelv | We need an insurance policy, but free and open source licences make these fairly easy to get. We might get a nice shinier newer version before he attempts to bleep us over and we fork with an upgraded version that meets our needs just as well as what we're using now |
| rzs19 | Okay guys, something to think about it: GLX support in propertarie drivers like NVIDIA is not done, so technologie which needs hw accel will be unusable. Wayland has no network transparency atm and no plans for it, vnc and rdp are no solution. |
| Strangelv | Or maybe he really will grudgingly go along, or maybe ends up making KWin even more generic and usable for completely different projects |
| msb_ | Strangelv: Why don't we just stay with what we have now? No worries? |
| rzs19 | so if qt5 will force hw accel over dri to work, than my whole de is broken and fucked up. |
| rzs19 | i also need no WM which has fancy effects. i need just a extremly configurable WM. |
| Strangelv | An honest in-house assessment of the state of our legacy TWin is not something I can do, so I'm sidestepping the issue. Please feel free to go into a technical analysis that pulls the tabelecloth out from under my Jenga tower |
| msb_ | Doesn't kwin4 use compositing all the time? And doesn't compositing fail with some older graphic cards and drivers? |
| rzs19 | KDE and QT go another way, a give me fcuking fancy effects and gui bling bling, which slows down my computer. |
| msb_ | Martin's blog header reads: "From the land of wobbly windows" |
| msb_ | Apparently that's what he cares about. |
| rzs19 | and he is also a wayland fanatic |
| rzs19 | and says ppl don't know why they need network tranparency, i don't want to support such a guy |
| rzs19 | he should give a big, big statement of what he want. |
| Strangelv | How modular is KWin? Could we use the Kwin4 fork to update portions of TWin? |
| rzs19 | becouse i don't need antoher heavy DE. |
| Strangelv | ...Assuming, obviously, that anything that's updated isn't made more sluggish, more dependant, et c. |
| Strangelv | more mandantory bling |
| msb_ | Do KDE3 (TDE) and KDE4 work over a network? Using the standard X method? |
| Strangelv | We need to be compiling a list of unanswered questions frlom this discussion don't we |
| rzs19 | i use TDE4 always over network! |
| rzs19 | TDE* |
| Strangelv | cou/ld someone who's actually awake start an Etherpadh page? |
| Strangelv | maybe all the questions we think of, even the ones we may have answveres for already |
| msb_ | The first thing KDE4 came out with was over 100 kinds of user bling adjustments. |
| rzs19 | i whould als prefer dcop becouse it works over X Window System’s Inter-Client Exchange Protocoll and makes TDE Application work over network. |
| msb_ | But virtual desktops, which are so important for organizing work, still don't work in KDE4! |
| rzs19 | what was the power of kde3? it was configurable, you could split things thousand times and configure window behaviour. there was less bling, bling. |
| Strangelv | We need a breakdown of changes between KWin3, TWin, and KWin4 so that the non-coders can ponder this better without making assumptions that will make the main developers cringe |
| rzs19 | i used it, becouse it was configurable in my workflow, you could order things clearly. |
| rzs19 | Kwin4 will also work over dbus... |
| rzs19 | read is damn blog and you will see, he works in another direction. |
| msb_ | KDE3/TDE gives everything that thinking people need for using the computer, but not a bunch of bling that they don't need. |
| Strangelv | KDE3 had/has plenty of bling. It's also possibel to turn most of it off from a GUI configuration. |
| rzs19 | Strangelv: it would be nice if i could turn off any bling bling in kde3/tde |
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| Strangelv | Q: have we added any new bling from KDE3? Q2: what bling in TDE condinues to impose overhead iven vhen turned off? |
| rzs19 | and maybe we could implement a qt theme/render engine, which does not send whole bitmaps to the xorg, but use the internaly render functions to make a lightweight theme. |
| Strangelv | Ditto any bling that might be in KWin4 |
| Strangelv | rvs19: yes, that's an extremely good suggestion |
| Strangelv | rss19 |
| Strangelv | rzs19 |
| Strangelv | I'm too asleep to type |
| rzs19 | why qt3, becouse it offers us many clear widgets, thats the point and don't makes use of heavy effects. |
| msb_ | kwin3/twin seems plenty fast now on my six-year old dual core 5200 32bit. Switches to new desktop instantly. |
| Strangelv | Do we have the people who are hapy to be the long-term upstream maintainers for Qt3? |
| Strangelv | Possibyl giving it a new, forked name? |
| rzs19 | we jus tneed to keep it alive, we don'T need new features in qt3 |
| msb_ | Aren't there other things that still use qt3? Won't it stay in use because of them? |
| Strangelv | I don't know what uses it besides us |
| Strangelv | We probably need to find out what these things are and take them into account as we make changes/patches/et c. |
| rzs19 | awesome is another sample for a powerfull wm, the don't send bitmaps to the xorg, its just simple, use the x11 functions to draw the gui. |
| rzs19 | and its for poweruser, so why should we not be for power users? |
| rzs19 | we are using linux, becouse it offers use so much, we are power users. |
| msb_ | Yes! Linux is for people who think! |
| Strangelv | We cover a reasonable span between power users and not so power users |
| rzs19 | and kde4 and gnome wnats to be for 0815 users. |
| Strangelv | I could go for anything that increases teh range on either end without sacrificing the other |
| rzs19 | or for just "i ant to surf and write office sheets" users |
| rzs19 | and whats with dbus, does it also work over network? |
| rzs19 | okay its runs over unixsockets, but i don't know not much over it. |
| Strangelv | I don't mind supporting users-who-drank-lead-paint-as-children as long as everyone else's experience is completely unaffected by this. If I have to take a hit because of it I'm opposed. |
| rzs19 | maybe dcop is the better solution for Desktop apllication, becouse it is baes upon the x11 protocoll |
| Strangelv | What are we using instead of dcop? |
| msb_ | Adopt Carrie-Anne Moss as our Goddess -- Trinity! |
| Strangelv | Is it another layer that we're the ones holding the bag of maintaining? |
| rzs19 | dbus was the successor... |
| rzs19 | marti nwrite somethin in the magazin 2FreiesMagazin" about it |
| rzs19 | sounds like it would brake network transparency. |
| msb_ | I think kde4 uses dbus, because I use qdbus to load clipboard buffer via klipper4. |
| rzs19 | break* damn to stupid to write :) |
| Strangelv | If it's causing trouble and KDE4 uses it and we don't there's an obvious course of (non) action here. 8) |
| rzs19 | yeah but i would not work outofthebox over network. |
| rzs19 | if i'm wrong, than pls correct my |
| Strangelv | I'm assuming you're correct, which means people who know this stuff looking at my comments are probably laughing, facepalming, or both. |
| msb_ | I'm running kde3 and I just typed dcop and got a list of programs running -- kwin, kicker,etc. |
| Strangelv | TNhis also means that I've probably reached the limits of my usefulness here right now |
| msb_ | So I think kde3/tde uses dcop. |
| rzs19 | offcourse we are using dcop! |
| Strangelv | do we use it directly? Is there a layer in between somewhere? I need a map or diagram |
| msb_ | OK, then if dcop is the one that runs over the network then we are good. |
| Strangelv | who maintains dcop? |
| rzs19 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCOP |
| MutantTurkey | dcop is faster |
| Strangelv | okay, WE are maintaining DCOP... |
| rzs19 | its part of kde3/tde ;) |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | dcop is good and doesn't need replacement |
| rzs19 | its perfect for desktop applications,which are using X11. |
| rzs19 | lets make a test, lets start KDE4 Apps. over network, andtake a look if it will work correctly, if it would show up in the systray, etc. |
| rzs19 | he says we don't need network transparency |
| rzs19 | but in times of the "cloud" and virtual machines, we need network transparency :) |
| rzs19 | take a look at pulseaudio, it also offers network transparency |
| rzs19 | so why wh whould go away fro mnetwork transparency? |
| rzs19 | "when you are at a loss, and the map shows no places to go, no places which matter to you, it's time to create your own map" |
| rzs19 | a t4 fork could also be an option? if qt5really forces hw accel. |
| msb_ | I just killed artsd and can still play 3 songs at once -- two xmms and one mplayer. |
| MutantTurkey | network transparancy shouldn't be built into the core of the system |
| rzs19 | out there, there are some much strange ppl |
| MutantTurkey | X11 suffers from that failure |
| MutantTurkey | we need networking as a extension, like rdesktop rather than built in ridiculously |
| MutantTurkey | because it major hurts the performance |
| MutantTurkey | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroXwin |
| rzs19 | userwhich does not need them, could take wayland... |
| rzs19 | i don't think, that rdesktop can cover every x11 feature, or? |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | but an X extension could.. |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.microxwin.com/architecture.html |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.microxwin.com/performance.html |
| rzs19 | so we need something like glx in it and other stuff. |
| rzs19 | the point is |
| rzs19 | its time for x12 |
| rzs19 | the toolkits needs to outsource there render engine in the xorg |
| rzs19 | so thaht the just say "render button" |
| rzs19 | and not render a bitmap and send it |
| rzs19 | thahts the problem. |
| rzs19 | and an extension must be really good, not soemthing like vnc, which als osends bitmaps |
| rzs19 | i have now idea how redesktop works, if it also sends bitmaps |
| rzs19 | soemtimes, i just have to need a single application on a nother display |
| Strangelv | X11 came out when? It's been X11 for as long as I've known about X |
| Strangelv | 1987 |
| rzs19 | i thinkg 1987 ? |
| rzs19 | so well its time for x12 :) |
| Strangelv | So when I first encountered it it was already 5 years old |
| rzs19 | antoher problem is the bad driver support |
| rzs19 | nvidia does not support glx correctly. |
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| MutantTurkey | guys! |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/X12 |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| rzs19 | jep? |
| rzs19 | i know it :) |
| Xu_R | You're kidding me. |
| rzs19 | seems atm just for brainstorming? |
| Xu_R | They have X12 now? |
| MutantTurkey | its just brainstorming |
| MutantTurkey | hey Robert |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| Xu_R | hey Calvin |
| Xu_R | nothing much... just trying to get through 6 more weeks. |
| MutantTurkey | yeah same |
| MutantTurkey | well 2 weeks |
| MutantTurkey | but then 6 weeks of summer semster |
| Xu_R | :< |
| Xu_R | I've basically taken a hiatus from all my linux projects this school year... |
| Xu_R | can't be helped. :/ |
| kari | My experience with KDE4 and KDE3. With KDE4 I had constant problems with the machine. I switched to KDE3 in OpenSUSE and now I again have a computer that is pleasure to use. Therefore to keep KDE3 alive is very important. I hope OpenSUSE people don't discontinue it. If they do I will instlal Trinity on my machine. |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: yeah that's how it is |
| MutantTurkey | kari: haven't seen you around before... |
| MutantTurkey | Ilya is running the project, though he's mostly seemed to been quiet lately |
| kari | Yep I am new here |
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| MutantTurkey | man my connection stinks |
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| rzs19 | wb :-) |
| MutantTurkey | my connection is terrible! |
| rzs19 | choose antoher isp? or is it the only one? |
| rzs19 | okay, silence means "no this is no option" :) |
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| MutantTurkey | rzs19: sorry this silence means I am busy :-) |
| MutantTurkey | actualy the connection is impeciable to the internet from my router |
| MutantTurkey | my laptop has the wireless issues |
| rzs19 | okay :) |
| kari | I just installed Trinity to an Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS. Install went fine. How I now select Trinity? |
| rzs19 | kari: which login manager do you use? kdm, gdm? |
| kari | I am not sure. I would think it is the gdm because I made the default Ubuntu instlall. I am total noob with Ubuntu |
| rzs19 | your login manager should give you the possiblity to select your wm, or de |
| rzs19 | anymodern, xdm per default not, but gdm, kdm should |
| rzs19 | or is autologin on? |
| kari | well the choices are just Gnome, Failsafe Gnome and xterm. |
| kari | And when running the instlal it asked me what to use. I selected the Trinity one |
| rzs19 | hmm, i'm not a ubuntu user :/ |
| kari | Me neither :-) |
| rzs19 | you could try to restart your login manager. |
| rzs19 | or manual start an X Server and start in there, don't if you just would try it, or use it. |
| rzs19 | know* |
| kari | I actually restarted the virtual machine. |
| rzs19 | okay ,also a possiblity :) |
| kari | I think I run the install again. Should go fast because I already have the packages. I will make different selection. There was two selections for the login manager and other one for the mail system. |
| rzs19 | you could make a reconfiguration with dpkg |
| rzs19 | dpkg-reconfigure kdm-trinity |
| kari | Thanks will try it now! |
| rzs19 | give feedback, if it helps :) |
| kari | I got message kdm-trinity was not installed. Now I ran sudo apt-get install kdm-trinity. Went well. Now I restart. |
| kari | Ah well now Ubuntu seems not to start any more - operator error :-) |
| kari | It just have the rolling dots going on with the text Ubuntu - I will wait :-) |
| rzs19 | hmm, hope it would work. |
| kari | I have never really used Ubuntu. I used Debian years ago. But this problem with KDE4 got me interested about Trinity. Also my friend almost "forced" me to transfer to KDE3 on OpenSUSE. Well I must say I consider KDE4 garbage - no offence to the programmers but something with KDE4 is really wrong. |
| SlavekB | For years I use Debian and from KDE 3.5.10 I went to Trinity 3.5.12. |
| SlavekB | On KDE4, I watched several times, but no, it's not for me. |
| rzs19 | well, than why ubuntu and not debian? |
| kari | Well I like OpenSUSE but I really have to help people out with Ubuntu. So I have to learn it. And the mission of this test was to just test Trinity. |
| rzs19 | okay, becouse, i just can help you with debian, ubuntu, or arch. |
| rzs19 | ähm, |
| rzs19 | -ubunut +opensuse |
| rzs19 | sorry, tired |
| kari | What I did. Installed Ubuntu 10.04.04 because I had it's ISO on my disk already. Installed Trinity by the instrucitions. I could not select Trinity from the menu. Made that apt-get install kdm-trinity. Now the damn Ubuntu won't boot any more :-) I am tired too. Going to hit sack about now. Will try to fix it tomorrow. I am no hurry with this. thanks for help. |
| rzs19 | does it install only kdm.trinity, or more? |
| rzs19 | you could boot a live cd an make ah croot into the defect installation and repair it |
| kari | It installed other stuff also. Sorry can't give the list because I already booted. |
| kari | Well I am not that good hack :-) What I will do tomorrow. Is to do fresh install. tooks about 20 mins. Take snapshot. Install Trinity paying attention what I do. And then I can just go back to snapshot and try again. But there really was not much as a selection just whether to use gdm or Trinity and I selected Trinity. |
| rzs19 | try it and make a notice what you have installed :) |
| rzs19 | maybe make a small installation, without gui/x11 and than install trinity, width kdm |
| rzs19 | with |
| rzs19 | * |
| kari | Yep that is an idea. thanks. Ok I really have to go sleep now. Make more damage than good :-) |
| rzs19 | good night :) |
| msb_ | Would it make any difference that Kari was installing in VMWare? |
| rzs19 | i don't think, becouse trinity is no kerne ldriver. |
| msb_ | You suggested Ubuntu installation without X. Would TDE installer then bring in X? |
| msb_ | Oh, I guess explicitly installing kdm, would bring X. |
| rzs19 | i don't know the installer ,but indebian, it does not install gnome than... |
| rzs19 | so taht it only install kdm with x and all that trinity packages. |
| msb_ | Got it. |
| msb_ | I've only ever used Suse! |
| rzs19 | suse is cool :) |
| msb_ | They are smart to keep KDE3! |
| rzs19 | i know, i will install it in an container and test it again, but i have no clue how to make e bootstrap install in a directory |
| msb_ | Don't understand, sorry. |
| rzs19 | sry, i'm tired :P |
| rzs19 | i want to install opensuse into a directory, so i can start a lx-container. |
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| msb_ | I left message to Kari to install latest Ubuntu -- Oneiric -- instead, and its version of Trinity. |
| rzs19 | but under debina(my host system) i only have yum and ähm another tool, so i dont know how i can install opensuse with yum in a directory(like i could do with kiwi) |
| msb_ | Isn't anything possible with VM? |
| msb_ | I have never used any VM. |
| rzs19 | i could install it in an vm and than copy it to an container. |
| msb_ | I just install new version of OpenSuse, get all my scripts and stuff to work, and then don't mess with it. |
| rzs19 | :) |
| rzs19 | hm you are from paris? |
| msb_ | US, California |
| rzs19 | oh, nice :) |
| msb_ | Your IP says Offenbach, Hessen, Germany |
| msb_ | http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation |
| rzs19 | damn you found me! :P |
| rzs19 | atm i life in ffm, but i'm originaly from vienna. |
| msb_ | I'm originally from Philadelphia, family from Russia. |
| msb_ | Has been very hot here last few days, have air conditioner on now. |
| rzs19 | cool... |
| msb_ | I sure hope Timothy Pearson does not decide to use kwin4. |
| rzs19 | here its sometimeswar mand than cold.. |
| msb_ | Supposed to be that we here, in April! |
| msb_ | Supposed to be that way here, in April! |
| rzs19 | i see no problem, give me sometime in germany and i will get domination over hear and than i will stop him! |
| rzs19 | here* |
| msb_ | I do not trust Martin Graesslin. He wrote three big articles trying to kill Trinity. Now I think he is using a different method to do it. |
| rzs19 | maybe he is bored? |
| msb_ | Maybe he is evil. |
| rzs19 | could be... |
| msb_ | There are unfortunately a lot of evil people in the world. |
| msb_ | Do you know about the focus groups and kde4? |
| rzs19 | seems that all goes down... |
| rzs19 | focus groups? |
| msb_ | Groups of people brought together to get their opinions. |
| msb_ | I was told that Novell held focus groups made of Windows users to determine features of KDE4. |
| msb_ | This was while Novell and Microsoft were working together. |
| msb_ | When KDE4 came out, it had over 100 user bling customizations, but virtual desktops didn't work. |
| rzs19 | rellay? |
| msb_ | The desktop names were not readable in the pager applet buttons. |
| msb_ | And they still are not!!! |
| rzs19 | hmm its a feature? :D |
| msb_ | For years, Unix/Linux power users recommended KDE3 as the best DE. |
| msb_ | One reason is virtual desktops, allowing separation of various types of work, without having to stop and restart programs for each type. |
| msb_ | This is very important to my usage! |
| msb_ | Now suppose Microsoft wanted to sabotage Linux... |
| rzs19 | oh and activity needs some service, to display the icons. |
| rzs19 | was it nepomuk, i dont know |
| msb_ | Activities don't have a good one-click pager. |
| msb_ | I click back and forth between desktops (I use all 20) very frequently. |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html |
| msb_ | Microsoft has tried to kill Linux in many different ways, for more than ten years. |
| msb_ | I think KDE4 is a Microsoft plot to sabotage Linux. |
| msb_ | Then I ask, why would Martin Graesslin write three long nasty articles trying to kill Trinity? |
| msb_ | Why would he care? |
| msb_ | Why doesn't he hate Gnome, or XFCE? |
| msb_ | No, he wants to kill Trinity! |
| rzs19 | sounds strange ^^ |
| rzs19 | maybe kde4 is a suicide commando? |
| msb_ | I think it's because Linux and KDE3 or Trinity is the absolute best computer system for people who think! |
| msb_ | Yep! |
| SlavekB | I am surprised with what perseverance and also how rudely forcing us KWin4. |
| msb_ | Either Graesslin is a nutball, or he is in on the plot. |
| msb_ | Yes!!! |
| msb_ | There is no rational reason why he should care. |
| msb_ | Since he obviously doesn't like Trinity, and thinks twin will fail, and kill Trinity, then he should let it happen. |
| SlavekB | As a small boy is angry that you do not want to play with his toys? |
| msb_ | But no, he wants to have his huge weird kwin4, and a bunch of other kde4 stuff, inserted into Trinity. |
| Xu_R | I'm getting tired of Martin right now. |
| msb_ | SlavekB: Maybe. I guess he would want us to think that. |
| Xu_R | This is getting annoying. To email us every few months to say that we are idiots is more than annoying. |
| msb_ | I think Trinity should just ignore him. I don't know why Timothy Pearson pays any attention to him. kwin3/twin works just fine. |
| SlavekB | In addition, their emails always cause unnecessary debate - too time consuming for the rest of us. |
| rzs19 | i love you guys, i'm not alone with my views :) |
| msb_ | It's like Timothy and some others are afraid of Martin for some reason. |
| rzs19 | i think, TDE is young and needs some time. |
| msb_ | Thanks, rzs19! I'm really just a bystander myself, all I've done for Trinity is publicize it. |
| Xu_R | It's mainly PR reasons; and tbh, Martin's really trying to put pressure on us... |
| rzs19 | i wish too i could help more out, but my own porjects costs som much time :( |
| msb_ | I don't understand how Martin can pressure Trinity people. Fork is fork. People do it all the time. |
| msb_ | Actually, the way I see it, and to use Martin's phrase, KDE4 is a hostile fork of KDE(3). |
| rzs19 | he don't like forks... |
| rzs19 | read his blog and his pos int "freiesMagazin" and you will understand so much... |
| msb_ | But KDE4 people have made KDE4 very different from KDE3, and lost virtual desktop functionality and put in lots of bling. |
| rzs19 | and sry, atm i'm to tired to make good comments in this discussion :) .. need to go to bed... |
| rzs19 | cu all tomorrow, gn8 :) |
| SlavekB | Interestingly, when shortly after the recent "attack" information released to cut off support for old hardware in "his" kwin4. |
| msb_ | What??? |
| msb_ | kwin4 won't work with old hardware? |
| SlavekB | Wait, I'll try to find it again ... |
| msb_ | What -- old video cards/chips that don't do compositing well, I'll bet! |
| msb_ | Martin's three anti-Trinity articles: |
| msb_ | http://www.freiesmagazin.de/mobil/freiesMagazin-2011-09-bilder.html#11_09_trinity |
| msb_ | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/11/the-grass-has-always-been-greener-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence/ |
| msb_ | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-desktop-environments/comment-page-1/#comment-46215 |
| msb_ | Oops, last one is positioned at my comment on desktops and such, which he answers by saying he doesn't use desktop pager! |
| Xu_R | *sigh* He is trying to play us like we are fools, and we can't do much. |
| msb_ | But all we have to do is ignore him! |
| Xu_R | ^ true. |
| msb_ | I've been concerned that kwin4 uses compositing all the time (as I have read), and that some video cards/chips will cause a crash with compositing. |
| SlavekB | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/the-costs-of-supporting-legacy-hardware/ |
| msb_ | It's very important that Linux works with as wide a range of hardware as possible, because lots of people in the world without much money have old computers. |
| msb_ | SlavekB: Thanks!!! |
| SlavekB | When I saw it, so I just said as well that we have your twin! |
| msb_ | There is something else, something bigger. All through the 20th century, and now in this one, some capitalist nations, especially the US, have been invading any nation that tries to have an equitable economic system for its people. |
| msb_ | Unregulated capitalism results in 99% of the wealth being in the hands of 1% of the people, and 1% of the wealth being spread over the other 99% of the people. |
| msb_ | The wealthy people control their governments, and they use the military to attack any nation that tries to have socialism, etc. |
| msb_ | They just bombed and murdered lots of people in Libya, and murdered Kaddafi, because he was sharing oil profits with the people, and Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa. |
| msb_ | So NATO bombed Libya, and now there will be a 1%/99% economy, so the wealthy will have their huge profits. |
| msb_ | The people of the world need to fight against this. They need to organize, and get the truth out. |
| msb_ | Free software -- good free software -- will help a lot. |
| msb_ | I hope I haven't bothered anyone by talking about this. There's a lot more on my website -- cosmicpenguin.com |
| msb_ | The free open-source paradigm also serves as an example of what can be done by sharing and cooperating instead of competing. |
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| Strangelv | :: wonders how much he can keep from going ona roll with the economics tangent. |
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| Strangelv | 1: Free markets of countless individuals making their own independant decisions, is a highly efficient solution that weeds out all sorts of abuses. This is probably why people who like power sabotage it whenever they can, then blame the results of their sabotage on free markets or 'deregulation' when neither was what the case was when it went awry. This means not having consolidated government-controlled |
| Strangelv | licencing and barriers to entry. Anyone should be able to enter the market and compete against the entrenched dinosaurs. |
| Strangelv | As best I can tell, Free and Open Source software are extremely capitalistic. That people choose to set the price tag at $0 is entirely their call to make.4 |
| Strangelv | 2: Don't confuse what the US Has for capitalism. It's increasingly controlled by governments, oligopolists, and outright thieves in criminal relationships |
| Strangelv | Larken Rose okeys the regulations and statutes for taxes and gets thrown in prison; Jamie Dimon engages in one criminal action after another and on an unlucky day gets a trivial slap on the wrist |
| Strangelv | We have more regulations than any other country in world history. Even the Soviet Union didn't have the tangled unending volumes that we have were literally no one can even count the number of statutes. |
| Strangelv | And remember: ignorance of the law that no one knows about in teh haystack is no excuse. It's your fault for not being teh onyl person in the world who knows all of it if you get prosecuted for one of the ones you didn't know about |
| Strangelv | Let me stop here. I could continue until I wreck my carpel tunnels. |
| kari | Hi, I now installed Trinity on Ubuntu 11.10 with the instructions. Now I can't figure out how to boot Ubuntu to Trinity. |
| msb_ | But big problem is that wealthy people control the govt, with campaign contributions and bribes. |
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| msb_ | After installing TDE, Kari gets some kind of DM that offers two choices -- Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D. Both lead to usual Ubuntu GUI. |
| msb_ | Kari, what choices did DM offer before you installed TDE? |
| kari | Don't know, because I did not have a look.......... |
| msb_ | I think the problem here is Capitalism!!! |
| msb_ | Ubuntu has too much money, bribed Trinity to take a fall! |
| msb_ | Strangelv: What if he used startx from cli shell? What argument should he give to startx? |
| Strangelv | I don't remember provixding any when i've used it |
| msb_ | ok kari, can you get to cli shell with, e.g., ctrl-alt-F2? Then login as yourself and run startx. |
| Strangelv | Selecting which windowing system/manager/et c is, IIRC< handrled with KDM/TDM/GDM and the like with pull-down menus |
| msb_ | When Kari boots up this Ubuntu+TDE, he only gets a screen that offers Ubuntu or Ubuntu 2D. |
| msb_ | Can you run tdm from a cli shell? |
| Strangelv | Corruptability of government: all the more reason to make the government as unimportant as possible. If it can't control people or bail out the allegedly too-big-to-fails there will be less incentive to spend the money. ...and maybe the big companies will feel properly mortal and stop treating their stakeholders as prey as they're largely required to do by US statutes |
| kari | went to console with CTRL-F1. Loggen in. tried to run startx but it complains that the X is already running. |
| Strangelv | I've only seen them start during the bootup sequence |
| Strangelv | I'm not sure howv to manually invoke them. |
| kari | What is the init level on Ubuntu to close X? |
| SlavekB | This could be an option - run the ubuntu installation in expert mode - there would probably be able to give a choice of what to install. |
| Strangelv | "not do I have experienec with hacking on the initialization scripts to do it that way. or are GRUB and LILO the progrlams responsibel for invoking the login managers? |
| msb_ | kari: go to ctrl-F1 console and run tdm. |
| kari | Not found |
| msb_ | Aggh! |
| SlavekB | /etc/init.d/kdm-trinity |
| SlavekB | ? |
| Strangelv | not found would explain why it's not happeningc automatically. This is arguably progress |
| kari | kdm-trinity not found |
| msb_ | you used entire pathname ? /etc/init.d/kdm-trinity ? |
| kari | Yes |
| SlavekB | Package kdm-trinity is installed? |
| Strangelv | what happens with: apt-get install kdm-trinity ? |
| kari | It started install. Going.......... |
| Strangelv | Also, which versionhave you installed? 13? 12? |
| msb_ | Followed instructions for Oneiric. |
| Strangelv | okay... it's probabyl not teh only thing that's missing. msb_: do you know what are the main metapackages that install everything essential? |
| msb_ | Sorry, have no idea. I only have ever used Suse! |
| * Strangelv just went through and made educated guesses and got everything important that way | |
| msb_ | But shouldn't trinity instructions work? |
| kari | Well I used instructions from http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#ubuntu |
| * Strangelv is still running Meerkat, largely because for about a year there were no packages for any of the newer versions. Naturally, he'd selected Meerkat over Lynx because he intended to keep updated to the newest version. | |
| msb_ | kari: has kdm-trinity installed? |
| kari | Yep |
| msb_ | Put on protective goggles, close blast-doors, and run it. |
| * Strangelv looks for what to add for the 13.1 packages | |
| Strangelv | # TDE 13.1 updates |
| Strangelv | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu maverick main |
| msb_ | kari, are you there? Speak to me! Medic! Medic!!! |
| Strangelv | change maverick to oneric |
| kari | Usage: /etc/init.d/kdm-trinity COMMAND |
| kari | Ok strangeelv I add that source and run update. |
| msb_ | Try start as the command. |
| Strangelv | if that fail,s try restart or stop, then start |
| Strangelv | or maybe it'll give a useful error message |
| kari | Now sudo stopped working. I just hate this Ubuntu :-) Thanks for help so far. I have to go now but I will continue this thing later today. Thanks! |
| Strangelv | how does it stop working? |
| * Strangelv is of the 'set a root password' school | |
| Strangelv | Actually, I may know why it's stopped working. |
| Strangelv | apt-get install sudo-trinity |
| msb_ | Kari had to go walk dog. |
| msb_ | back in an hour |
| msb_ | slow dog |
| Strangelv | If that's the vsolution, then it's only TDE specific packages that are a problem |
| Strangelv | "Maybe what I said will be noticed then. I have a checklist I ned to get trough before I'm too sleepy to get anything else done |
| msb_ | Thanks for help! |
| * Strangelv looks for form instructions for paperwork he may be able to hand to someone to hand to the treasurer so the treasurer might be able to get the paperwokr to the secretary of state's office | |
| Strangelv | I believeu the problem is that there's still missing packages |
| Strangelv | run apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity again? |
| msb_ | How come the Trinity instructions for Oneiric aren't working? Haven't a lot of people done it? |
| Strangelv | I can only guess. |
| Strangelv | possibyl there's another package that needs to be included in the apt-get? |
| msb_ | Only thing different is Kari is installing inside a VM. |
| msb_ | But Oneiric installs ok there. |
| Strangelv | but doing that absolutely should have included kdm-trinity and sudo-trinity, and it didn't... |
| Strangelv | maybe: apt-cache seacrh trinity and pick things that look important and apt-get them and hope they grab the rest? |
| msb_ | So maybe somebody moved stuff around on Pearson server when they shouldn't have. |
| Strangelv | I hope that's not the case, but if that were, Kari probabyl would not have successfulyl grabbed kdm-trinity |
| Strangelv | It looks to me like it just failed to grab critical packages altogether |
| msb_ | What tells it which packages to grab? |
| Strangelv | The dependancies for each package you tell apt-get to grab |
| msb_ | Maybe that got changed. |
| msb_ | Apparently those are: kubuntu-default-settings-trinity and kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| msb_ | I'll ask on the lists if anyone has installed TDE to Oneiric in last few days. |
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| Strangelv | maybe: apt-get install kdebase-data-trinity kdebase-trinity kaffeine-trinity kcontrol-trinity kicker-trinity kwin-trinity kdenetwork-trinity kdeadmin-trinity hal-trinity sudo-trinity kicker-applets-trinity kdeaddons-trinity kdeartwork-trinity kpdf-trinity k3b-trinity arts-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity kedit-trinity ark-trinity |
| Strangelv | NO, I don't remember the exact set I used to upgrade this machine from 13 to 13.1 |
| Strangelv | 12 ot 13.1 |
| * Strangelv goes bacrk to looking for instrucrtions for form AGTA | |
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| Space_Man | what is AGTA? |
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| Space_Man | The Airport Ground Transportation Association |
| Strangelv | Ammendment: Appointment of a Campaign Treasurer by a General-Purpose Committee |
| Strangelv | Fortunately, it's a lot easier than I expected it to be. Just need to get it to Rene so he can sign it and get it to the state so I can do filings. |
| Strangelv | It's the Texas Ethics Commission. So naturalyl its primary mission is to zap people for minor paperwork fumbles. |
| Strangelv | So when the ACT for Texas Clasroom Teachers Assoication uses tax money to get the legislature to give them more tax money it's just fine becaues they did their poperwork correctly. Easy to do when you get more than $100,000 in donations a month |
| Strangelv | Not so easy if you normally only get a few hundred a year, usually out of your own pocket... |
| Strangelv | I'm ranting again. Sorry.p |
| Space_Man | thanks |
| Space_Man | don't worry about the ranting |
| Strangelv | ::: Texas Association of REALTORS Political Action Committee $6,119,493.47 -- this could tie into my previous rand about what the United States have instead of capitalism |
| Strangelv | That's a monthly, not quarterly figure |
| Strangelv | What came out of the KWin4/TWin discussion? Is there anything in KWin4 that's usable for us if we could port it to TWin? |
| Strangelv | Porting various sections of code, not the entire thing, that is |
| Strangelv | ie replacing our version of void Widget() or similar |
| Strangelv | Karbon14 is not an adequate substitute for Inkscape |
| SlavekB | No, it really is not. I was looking forward to SK1, but he died. And his successor switch to GTK :( |
| Strangelv | If Inkscape wasn't segfalting teh moment it tried to load anything I'd be happily using it |
| Strangelv | I've run out of ideas to fix it shorlt of a clean operating system install or somethething else equally ludicrus |
| Strangelv | reinstall -- still crashes; purge remove reinstall, ditto; purge, rename configuration files, reainstall, ditto... |
| Strangelv | reinstall al dependancies -- ditto |
| Strangelv | Where else might what's causing it to crash be located? |
| SlavekB | Inkscape for me there still lacks several things which I was accustomed to in Zoner Callisto. |
| Strangelv | I finalyl got over the learning curve with Xara LX, but then promptly noticed I was locked it |
| Strangelv | locked in |
| Strangelv | as it couldn't do any non-proprietary formats, and no one is maintaining it as best I can tell |
| Strangelv | It says it can do SVG and teh like, but fails |
| SlavekB | Xara LX is not dead project? |
| Strangelv | I used it to crank out the images for ... siglib.org/tutorial/index.html isn't working because my 301 redirect is overzealous. drat |
| Strangelv | As best I can tell it's dead and not maintained, waiting in vain for anyone to pick up where 0.7 left off |
| Strangelv | http://siglib.org/tutorial/siglib_i801_fig_printed.png works, though |
| Strangelv | just not the html file for the entire tutorial |
| Strangelv | It's a step by step guide for screen printing signs |
| Strangelv | Something I've not done since 2008 |
| Strangelv | Right now I'm wvanting to look at svg files to pick out the templates I made so I can burn them to discs to hand out |
| Strangelv | Karbot loads them and aligns the text incorrectly |
| * Strangelv opens in LibrleOffice Draw and facepalms | |
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| MutantTurkey | I don't use any of the koffice utilties.. |
| MutantTurkey | i think they stink |
| Strangelv | Any chance of finding someoen who isn't us to be their upstream? |
| MutantTurkey | caligra office. |
| MutantTurkey | they are moving off of KDE i think and going pure Qt eventually |
| MutantTurkey | I _think_ |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: Strangelv: I like you guys. you're interesting to talk with and provide good insights. |
| MutantTurkey | btw |
| MutantTurkey | not just 'kde4 sucks blah blah' but intelligent conversation and arguments |
| Strangelv | I'm glad to be of some use |
| Strangelv | IIRC there are users who prefer KOffice to Caligara |
| Strangelv | There might be people with an interest or stake in maintaining the originals |
| MutantTurkey | fols as I see. |
| MutantTurkey | fools' |
| MutantTurkey | it's like using OpenOffice still, the original team has left. |
| MutantTurkey | and libreoffice provides a better service |
| Strangelv | I can't carry on a KDE 4 sucks argument becaues i didn't last very long attempting to use it and have'nt gotten back since. You'll need to find a different masochis to find out what it's like right now. 8) |
| Strangelv | Make an announcement that we're no longer planning ot provide upstram services for it, and see if anyone is willing to take the ball? |
| Strangelv | ...or is it so tied to KDE3/TDE that no one else could do it? |
| Strangelv | Or would tying it to TQt be sufficient to hand it t some other team somewhere, assuming anyone with the needed skill set is sufficiently motivated? |
| MutantTurkey | no one else _would_ do it |
| Strangelv | Then it may also fall to the question is what percentage of our users see it as important. We may need to design a survey. I may be the person with the best skill set for designing one |
| Strangelv | ...but right now I need to stop pretending I'm awake. Figuring out how to do even a quasi-random sample when we don't have a handy set of users may be a bigger challenge than it's worth |
| Strangelv | Do we have any idea of whom our users are? |
| Strangelv | Would there be feasibility of an app that only fires up on the upgrade if a certian random value comes up? |
| Strangelv | "Then takes itselfg out of the equanion until at least the next upgrade |
| Strangelv | The applet asks the survey questions, then sends the results to a server |
| Strangelv | ...and wvidth that idea, I probably need to stop pretending I'm awake |
| Strangelv | What information do we need to know about our user base -- what do they use, what would hdhey happily see vanish without a trace, what their platform is, et c.? |
| Strangelv | "or do we just blanket ask everyone and assume the ones who don't answer don't care |
| Strangelv | Could we get the survey app to send us the info of the people who just close it without answering? A proper random sample needs to have the randomly selected people answer |
| MutantTurkey | we need a survey badly |
| MutantTurkey | to figure out what our users needs are, how many users we have, what their priorities are etc. |
| MutantTurkey | that' shoukld be really important |
| MutantTurkey | also i would like to see an optional tracker program for us |
| Strangelv | nag me to make sure I remember |
| MutantTurkey | google actually has great tools for surveying |
| Strangelv | I'm going to be distracted for a bit. Tyring to get some stuff done in time for the national convention I'm not attendin,g then the state convention I will be |
| Strangelv | Do their tools work with people who keep javascript disabled and have deleted their Google accounts? |
| * Strangelv is in that category | |
| Strangelv | We need a privacy policy for our survey. One that is both reassuring and truthful |
| * Strangelv has never designed a privacy policy before | |
| * Strangelv hasn't designed a survey for awhile. He needs the practice | |
| Strangelv | Some of it's pretty obvious -- anyone could probably make a useful rough draft |
| Strangelv | Then there are pitfalls I've frequently seen professionals screw up with |
| Strangelv | Question is if I remember them well enough to avoid them myself after all this time... |
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| kari | Hi, I wrote here about the problems to instlal Trinity to Ubuntu. Well now I got it installed. Used these http://www.howtogeek.com/106840/how-to-install-trinity-on-ubuntu-relive-kde-3/ the key was to give command sudo passwd . Trinity replaces sudo and it won't do it if there is no password defined. I had success with Ubuntu and Fedora 16. Good work ! |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 975 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=975 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Apps do not honor/use the Documents location set in user-dirs.dirs |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 976 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=976 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, "My Documents" device is broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 977 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=977 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Avoiding potential menu clutter and conflicts with KDE3 and KDE4 |
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| Space_Man | SlavekB: I want to use your builds, I have added 2 new lines to my sources.list |
| Space_Man | do I need to remove the standard trinity lines? |
| Space_Man | and the build deps? |
| SlavekB | No, my ppa contains only the updated packages. |
| SlavekB | Packages that are unchanged are taken from the standard source. |
| Space_Man | so there should be 6 lines? |
| SlavekB | six, including deb-src? |
| Space_Man | yes, http://pastebin.com/tXnDWBdH |
| SlavekB | Yes, that is correct. If not planning on compiling your own, no need deb-src. |
| Space_Man | excellent |
| Space_Man | thank you |
| Space_Man | I don't plan to compile anything for trinity |
| Space_Man | not at the momemt |
| SlavekB | This weekend I am uploading part of the next update. |
| Space_Man | sounds good |
| Space_Man | thankyou for your updates |
| SlavekB | Today I will still continue. |
| SlavekB | ...but later - now I'm at work. |
| msb_ | SlavekB: I want to write a message to the devel list about this revelation from Graesslin that you found: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/the-costs-of-supporting-legacy-hardware/ |
| msb_ | SlavekB: Can I give you credit for finding it? |
| SlavekB | Ok. |
| msb_ | Great! |
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| SlavekB | I just push further updates ... again not sufficient place on PPA :) |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: it should be official... |
| SlavekB | In addition to the packages that I have had in the PPA, I am going to add a few more packages. |
| MutantTurkey | what others/ |
| MutantTurkey | ugh my patch is not stable for mac switching |
| MutantTurkey | I need to look into it further |
| MutantTurkey | I don't feel well today |
| SlavekB | I want to take any more, where Darrell address: |
| SlavekB | Fix inadvertent "TQ" changes. |
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| MutantTurkey | ? |
| SlavekB | And packages with the patches named: |
| SlavekB | + Remove additional unneeded tq method conversions |
| SlavekB | + Rename obsolete tq methods to standard names |
| SlavekB | + Rename a few stragglers |
| SlavekB | In some packages, these corrections have helped to solve their problems. |
| SlavekB | Therefore, I want to handle the other packages with these repairs. |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| SlavekB | The problem is that it is indeed a lot. |
| SlavekB | However, the burning issues (including SAK) are probably now resolved, so that might be released as an official update, even without this other packages that are not yet ready. |
| MutantTurkey | yes tim is making a lot of progress on tsak |
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| SlavekB | Yes. I had the pleasure of it and all gradually backport :) |
| SlavekB | Darrells search inadvertent "TQ" changes were also excellent. |
| SlavekB | ... just of it now I have a lot of work ;) |
| SlavekB | ...and not enough space on the ppa ;) |
| MutantTurkey | how did he do that? |
| MutantTurkey | manually? |
| SlavekB | Yes. Hand search and download a patch from git, where you need to return "k => t" changes, test whether they go to apply patches, test whether the result of compile, test on their machines. |
| MutantTurkey | wow |
| SlavekB | And then I give patches to packages for ubuntu. |
| SlavekB | to test the compilation of ubuntu just for oneiric. |
| SlavekB | For example: for kdebase I now have 53 patches. |
| MutantTurkey | wow |
| MutantTurkey | jeez |
| SlavekB | To test the functionality of the ubuntu packages I does not have machine - this is tested by users of my ppa ;) |
| SlavekB | Truth - kdebase has the most patches. |
| MutantTurkey | makes sense |
| MutantTurkey | that's a good thing. |
| SlavekB | I hope that Tim will add space to my PPA. |
| MutantTurkey | did you ask? |
| MutantTurkey | I am sure he will. |
| SlavekB | Yes. |
| MutantTurkey | are the old packages still therE? |
| SlavekB | I do not know how quickly the old packages disappear. |
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| MutantTurkey | delete them maybe? |
| SlavekB | As superseded disappear by themselves. |
| SlavekB | ...I do not know just how fast :) |
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| SlavekB | Compiling for armel runs quite slowly, so they keep some packages there any longer. |
| MutantTurkey | idon't think anyone uses arm |
| MutantTurkey | yet |
| MutantTurkey | or at least not that i know of anyone using it |
| SlavekB | Packages for the squeeze is automatically compiled for armel well. |
| SlavekB | wow |
| SlavekB | Repository size: |
| SlavekB | 12.2 GiB (100.00%) of 12.0 GiB |
| SlavekB | It does not look too good ;) |
| SlavekB | Before yesterday I started to upload updates, I was on 8.5 GiB |
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| MutantTurkey | how many distros are you suppoted and such? |
| MutantTurkey | agrajag: hey |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: many people come and go here without speaking a word :p |
| agrajag | hi |
| SlavekB | Debian Squeeze |
| SlavekB | Ubuntu Lucid, Maverick, Natty, Oneiric |
| MutantTurkey | agrajag: what's up? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: so base size * number of distros... it grows large quickly |
| SlavekB | So all the "debian" distribution supported by 3.5.13. |
| agrajag | nm, just idling here waiting for the day I have a problem I can't solve with the desktop |
| MutantTurkey | but the ppa is not connected to the mirrors is it? |
| MutantTurkey | agrajag: no problems now? |
| agrajag | nope |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Yes, my PPA is not the mirrors. |
| agrajag | using the oneric repo on precise on a couple boxes with no real problem |
| MutantTurkey | agrajag: that is good hten! |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't tried precise yet. |
| MutantTurkey | but oneiric works perfectly well |
| agrajag | yup |
| MutantTurkey | with SlavekB's ppa it's even better... no kicker glitches |
| agrajag | oh? |
| MutantTurkey | wait nevermind... |
| agrajag | what were the kicker glitches? |
| agrajag | ah |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: you havent' applied my kicker patches? |
| MutantTurkey | i though they got pushed into the core... |
| MutantTurkey | FSCK |
| SlavekB | Want to send the current list of patches kdebase? |
| MutantTurkey | i did a lot of work on that.... |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: it's in the etherpad no? |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: There is not everything written |
| MutantTurkey | 508 |
| MutantTurkey | please add that bug |
| MutantTurkey | because it is a critical problem with kickoff menu |
| MutantTurkey | which I fixed just after the 3.5.13 release |
| SlavekB | Is already included :) |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I'm thinking that I would have to rework etherpad article. |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Originally contained a list of what would be a good fix. |
| MutantTurkey | it is? |
| MutantTurkey | why do I have errors here... hum |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Now vice versa (sometimes) add that, I worked in the meantime. |
| SlavekB | Yes - included: |
| SlavekB | * commit 6f32bfd9, closes #508 |
| SlavekB | Fix kickoff crashing and remove additional OpenSUSE branding |
| SlavekB | Just not remember whether it is up to the update, which I upload on Sunday, or in the previous ;) |
| MutantTurkey | thaanks |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I'm thinking that I etherpad reworked according to the changelog |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| MutantTurkey | do you have a link |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: hum i still am getting the kicker problem. |
| SlavekB | No, no, etherpa it's not revised ... yet :) |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Wait, I'll try kickoff menu on my test machine. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | you need to switch to the menu |
| MutantTurkey | then it should spike to 100% cpu |
| SlavekB | I switched on the kickoff, after going through the menu, but no crashes, no bother processor. |
| SlavekB | Everything looks fine. |
| SlavekB | (Squeeze, low installed packages) |
| Space_Man | switching between "classic menu" and "kickoff menu" caused kicker to have a short increase in %cpu |
| * Space_Man is using SlavekB's ppa's | |
| * SlavekB too using SlavekB's ppa's ;) | |
| Space_Man | the spike lasts about 3 seconds while the menu changes |
| Space_Man | :P |
| Space_Man | the "classic menu" used to crash kicker, adding entries to the quicklauncher also crashed kicker |
| Space_Man | yesterday I reinstalled ubuntu 11.10 and the crashes have gone |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: that is normal |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: that was a libart problem |
| SlavekB | I got it on the test machine (default configuration), and falls are not held. |
| * Space_Man shoots libart | |
| Space_Man | both installs used SlavekB's ppa's and ubuntu 11.10 |
| Space_Man | would they have different versions of libart? |
| Space_Man | or is it subtle bug? |
| SlavekB | I have libart from Squeeze. |
| Space_Man | I did try to install the latest ubuntu 12.04 beta |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: no slaveks should override it. |
| Space_Man | trinity wouldn't install |
| SlavekB | From git: |
| SlavekB | 2e6e0a12 2012-04-19 20:07:58 -0500 Timothy Pearson [libart-lgpl] Clean up README file |
| SlavekB | Fix ABI incompatibility crash (thanks to James for debugging the failing code) |
| SlavekB | Clean up debug spew |
| Space_Man | it was missing libaudiofile0 |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Do you have some corrupted picture there? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: what? |
| MutantTurkey | I doubt it |
| MutantTurkey | I am upgrading now. |
| SlavekB | Hmm, to me it's just not falling. |
| MutantTurkey | i think i am not up to date. |
| MutantTurkey | do you think kickoff is working well? |
| MutantTurkey | any improvements you suggest? |
| SlavekB | For me kickoff works. |
| SlavekB | Therefore, I do not know whether it can be something with your configuration. |
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| SlavekB | I will go from work ... for me it's pretty late in the evening. |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I think i haven't updated |
| MutantTurkey | thats the problem |
| MutantTurkey | DarkShadowKun? |
| MutantTurkey | LOL |
| Xu_R | :< wut |
| MutantTurkey | i dunno |
| MutantTurkey | what do you think if I stopped using MutantTurkey? |
| Xu_R | iouno. |
| Xu_R | tbh, DarkShadowKun is only my idle/afk nick ;P |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| SlavekB | Still question: Should I modify the existing etherpad article or make a new one? |
| MutantTurkey | modify it |
| SlavekB | Now I know - in the current article I will complete changelog and the in initial list I leave only outstanding issues |
| SlavekB | changelog for all the packages - it will be long ;) |
| SlavekB | Sometimes I send it to the mailing list... |
| SlavekB | Glory, I got another space on PPA: $ |
| SlavekB | :$ |
| MutantTurkey | good :-) |
| SlavekB | bye for now ... |
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| Space_Man | I've just found one crasher, open konqueror (as a file manager) and right clicking on a dir or file makes konqueror crash |
| SlavekB | With the latest version of my PPA? |
| Space_Man | I updated about 4 hours ago |
| SlavekB | kdebase*ax8 |
| Space_Man | launching from konsole http://pastebin.com/ua7eicgd |
| SlavekB | Ha, I see there tqaddAction. |
| * Space_Man is updating | |
| Space_Man | there are 61 packages to update |
| Space_Man | time passes... |
| SlavekB | I'll probably have to quickly prepare updated packages containing these plugins. |
| SlavekB | please: |
| SlavekB | dpkg -S /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkuickplugin.so |
| SlavekB | dpkg -S /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libarkplugin.so |
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| Space_Man | konq-plugins-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkuickplugin.so |
| Space_Man | konq-plugins-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libarkplugin.so |
| SlavekB | ...and source package kdeaddons-trinity. Thanks. |
| SlavekB | It's not on my ppa ... yet. |
| SlavekB | kdeaddons patches backported, doing a test compile in my lab... |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: I did not expect that it will compile kdeaddons for so long. |
| SlavekB | Space_Man: But it depends on many packages. And from my PPA downloaded the traditionally slow. |
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| MutantTurkey | mac switching is complete. |
| SlavekB | kdeaddons prepared, uploaded, compiled, some files wait to publish |
| SlavekB | You can then test |
| SlavekB | so they are even published |
| MutantTurkey | kdeaddons? |
| SlavekB | Yes |
| SlavekB | Space_Man reported a Konqueror crashes |
| MutantTurkey | good |
| MutantTurkey | must sleep - class in 8 hours |
| SlavekB | So I newly include kdeaddons into the my PPA |
| SlavekB | I too must sleep. |
| SlavekB | good night :) |
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| Strangelv | :: runs an apt-get dist-upgrade |
| Strangelv | "Something I spent months avoiding on this machine until I crabbed sometbhing that broke my system by getting packages from 13 anyway |
| Strangelv | "whoah. 89 things have upgrade |
| Strangelv | "almost all TDE |
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| Space_Man | hi SlavekB |
| Space_Man | you updated kdeaddons has fixed the konqueror crashing problem |
| Space_Man | thank you |
| SlavekB | Hi Space_Man |
| SlavekB | Thank you for testing |
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| Space_Man | SlavekB: the caps lock / number lock problem with PS2 keyboards has also gone :) |
| SlavekB | Yeah, Tim's good work on SAK |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: another bug, the printer list is empty |
| Space_Man | I want to add a usb printer, the wizard detects the machine |
| Space_Man | but the manufacturer and model window is empty |
| Space_Man | just found bug 697 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=697 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, print wizard missing drivers, postscript Ubuntu/NATTY |
| SlavekB | Ah, so this is probably an older error. |
| SlavekB | In kdelibs is included patch for bug 383 - is related |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=383 normal, P5, ---, monqpourbsd-linuxfr, RESOLVED FIXED, can't add printer : wrong make_driver_db_cups path |
| Space_Man | sudo apt-get install foomatic-db |
| Space_Man | fixed the problem |
| SlavekB | In 697 is also mentioned bug 541 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=541 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, print wizard missing drivers, postscript |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: I just added a comment to bug 697 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=697 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, print wizard missing drivers, postscript Ubuntu/NATTY |
| SlavekB | Thank you. Then I'll try to find the time to reduce these reported bugs - 697, 541 and 383 are apparently related. |
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| MutantTurkey | GAIS LETS DONATE! |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php |
| MutantTurkey | almost there... |
| MutantTurkey | also let's send screenshots to Tim |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/screenshots.php |
| MutantTurkey | so we can populate that page |
| MutantTurkey | try and show usage of key trinity applications (esp like amarok or konq) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 978 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=978 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kdebindings java support does not build with openjdk 1.7.0 |
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| tbottu | 10trin@3111skyline.com changed the Status on bug 897 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=897 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, sftp kioslave fails to parse urls in konqueror address bar |
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| tomiro | Greetings, anyone home? |
| SlavekB | I look ;) |
| tomiro | I'm getting ready to release a Live Installable DVD called "Karlie", which uses Debian - stable, and features Trinity 3.5.13 on the desktop. |
| SlavekB | It would be good. |
| tomiro | I'd a;so like to write an article about Trinity to be posted, and available for rss syndication, at Webpath.net, but I'd love for some input from the developers to help me better promote Trinity. |
| SlavekB | I am now a handyman rather than a developer :) |
| tomiro | I've tried to sign up for the developer email list, but I didn't even receive the standard notification, so I thought I'd try freenode. |
| tomiro | AFK... |
| MutantTurkey | GREETINGS |
| MutantTurkey | TOTTHAT WOULD BE GREAT |
| MutantTurkey | wow |
| MutantTurkey | sorry didn't realize i was writing in caps heh |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: good evening :) |
| MutantTurkey | tomiro: you should email Timothy directly (kbvqf at pearsoncomputing.net) if you have trouble |
| MutantTurkey | also an article would be awesome and I'd be happy to field some questions |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: good afternoon :-) |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Tim does not have it easy with me - again my size on the PPA is not enough :) |
| MutantTurkey | Again? |
| MutantTurkey | how large is it? |
| SlavekB | There are currently 14 GiB |
| MutantTurkey | yeeeeeeesh |
| SlavekB | But superseded packages are cleaned too slowly. |
| SlavekB | In reality, size 9 GiB |
| SlavekB | How I gradually update all packages in the PPA, and cleaning is slow, the PPA is cramped. |
| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| SlavekB | And I have not updated all the existing packages - I would probably have needed a total of 18 GiB :) |
| MutantTurkey | that is a huge number |
| SlavekB | I know :) |
| SlavekB | But I did not delete superseded packages in advance. I did not make a mess in the PPA, if users can use it. |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, automatic cleaning is a bit slower. |
| MutantTurkey | i hate the government |
| MutantTurkey | Gross Pay: 840.00 Net Pay: 661.75 |
| MutantTurkey | stealing all my money |
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| SlavekB | Bye... see you later |
| * SlavekB are embarking on the road from work | |
| MutantTurkey | see you |
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| cpatrick08 | i was wondering if you were going to make precise images preloaded with TDE |
| Space_Man | is precise the next ubuntu? |
| cpatrick08 | yes and it is releases tomorrow |
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| Space_Man | wow |
| Space_Man | really tomorrow? |
| Space_Man | I'm still thinking about a 11.10 image :P |
| cpatrick08 | yea 12-16 hours to be exact |
| Space_Man | time flies.... |
| cpatrick08 | 12.04 precise would be supported until april of 2017 5 years so might be better to use 12.04 as a base for your image |
| SlavekB | Someone tried Oneiric packages for use in Precise? |
| Space_Man | I did |
| Space_Man | and failed |
| cpatrick08 | bummer |
| SlavekB | But preparing the images with R14 is probably not a good idea. |
| Space_Man | something like libaudiofile0 was missing |
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| cpatrick08 | i was wondering if you were going to make precise images preloaded with TDE |
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| Space_Man | does anybody know what the status is of the spring fundraiser? |
| Space_Man | http://trinitydesktop.org/newsentry.php?entry=2012.03.21 |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | we need money |
| MutantTurkey | that's the status |
| MutantTurkey | please make all checks out to MutantTurkey preferablly amounts of over 10,000 USD |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php |
| MutantTurkey | the status is available there |
| Space_Man | :P |
| Space_Man | $1,761 raised so far, TDE needs another $239 before the end of the month to reach Tim's goal of $2,000 USD |
| Space_Man | $239 USD = 181 euros or £148 GBP |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | today I will be donating some |
| MutantTurkey | I have finally gotten paid |
| MutantTurkey | college kids = broke |
| Space_Man | good |
| Space_Man | give Tim all your money |
| MutantTurkey | I have no money. |
| MutantTurkey | i have like 60 dollars to my name |
| MutantTurkey | but i get paid tomorrow |
| Space_Man | oh, OK |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| Space_Man | the paypal is a bit slow to appear |
| MutantTurkey | it's from the paypal site that's why |
| MutantTurkey | it's not our server |
| Space_Man | Tim now needs $159 |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 979 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=979 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, select buffer paste in kate/kwrite causing line wrap causes crash (X, qt3) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 980 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=980 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kvirc package is unusable |
| MobileTurkey | kvirc suckz |
| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: why not use konversation? |
| SlavekB | MobileTurkey: I use Kopete for jabber, so I just added another protocol - irc. |
| MobileTurkey | ah |
| MobileTurkey | nice |
| MobileTurkey | I like konversation :-) |
| SlavekB | The kvirc I wanted to see, but it was not possible :) |
| SlavekB | Sometimes I use irc over jabber (when I in BombusMod on mobile). |
| SlavekB | Over Jabber I also use RSS. |
| MobileTurkey | I use just irc mostly |
| SlavekB | So I dealt with that did not work nowlisten module in kopete :) |
| MobileTurkey | does https:// work for you in konq? |
| SlavekB | This is the only fix that I still did not report in Bugzilla... |
| SlavekB | Wait, I have a test machine behind him... |
| SlavekB | (At a working machine I have still 3.5.12) |
| SlavekB | Yes - in 3.5.13 https:// in Konqueror works. |
| MobileTurkey | ok |
| SlavekB | (Squeeze amd64) |
| SlavekB | (Squeeze i386 too) |
| SlavekB | Tim lent me more space to PPA :$ |
| MobileTurkey | how much now? |
| SlavekB | I now have a total of 16 GiB |
| SlavekB | But until it clears superseded packages, I give him advice and Tim turn the space smaller. |
| SlavekB | I just upload Konversation :) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 898 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=898 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tsak process taking 90-100% of CPU |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 980 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=980 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kvirc package is unusable |
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| * Strangelv is trying to see if he can get Inkscape to work again by updating from Meerkat to Natty. He's not sure if he's had this much fun with apt-get since DEbian Sid or when he had a mixture of Dbian and ubuntu packages | |
| Space_Man | Natty is 12 months old |
| Space_Man | try oneiric or yesterdays problematic possum |
| Space_Man | you could shoot it from space and start again |
| Strangelv | "AFAIK, jumping revisions is a no-no unless yu're starting from a long term support version |
| Strangelv | I'ts not like my system is crashing down around my ears -- it's just that arltertaning between apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get -f install -- with the occasional dpkg -i thrown in -- doesn't complete it |
| Strangelv | ...even when it returns no errors |
| Strangelv | Is there a guide that contradicts what I'm operating under somewhere? |
| Strangelv | In any event, I'd probabyl want to get my sistem firmly upgraded to Natty before jumping to Pangolin |
| Strangelv | By is my typing off today |
| Strangelv | ::: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/perror.1.gz', which is also in package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.61-0ubuntu0.10.10.1 |
| Strangelv | Have'nt seen this one as often as I used to |
| Strangelv | :: beraks out --force-overwrite |
| Strangelv | Okay, this is new to me: dpkg-divert: error: `diversion of /usr/bin/plasma to /usr/bin/plasma.kde4 by ksmserver-trinity' clashes with `local diversion of /usr/bin/plasma to /usr/bin/plasma.kde4 |
| Strangelv | given that it says kde4, could I just delete this? |
| Strangelv | no, I guess I can't. kdebase-trinity depends on it |
| Strangelv | I see I'm not the first person to run into this: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::1784 |
| Strangelv | which fortunately provides an easy solution |
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| Strangelv | Morninfg |
| MutantTurkey | mornin |
| SlavekB | afternoon :) |
| SlavekB | I prepare next update for kdebase and I noticed one problem. |
| Strangelv | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::1784 ? |
| Strangelv | "or another one? |
| SlavekB | another |
| SlavekB | When I have SAK turned on and I am logged in, then Ctrl + Alt + Del does nothing. |
| SlavekB | I can lock the desktop - SAK dialog appears and C+A+D is working as it should. |
| SlavekB | So the problem does not prevent use. |
| SlavekB | It does not work only this box: |
| SlavekB | http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/trinity/build_logs/tde-lock-4.png |
| SlavekB | I hesitate to let it go, or try to solve it. The dialog does not seem so useful. |
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| MutantTurkey | goodbye |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 625 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=625 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, KDM is hard-coded to use /tmp rather than $TMP or $TMPDIR |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 957 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=957 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kipi-plugins fails to build - error: redeclaration of 'TQListViewItemIterator it' |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 949 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=949 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: libpng15 deprecates direct access to png_struct & png_info |
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| DexterF | hoi |
| DexterF | the obviosu question: how about 12.04LTS? |
| SlavekB | No pleasing answer: Nothing yet |
| DexterF | hmmm. I'm on 10.10, and its support expired. But if I'm not all wrong, I have to go from there over 11.04 and 11.10 anyway, right? |
| SlavekB | Someone probably tried Oneric packages, but have dependencies that are not already in the Precise. |
| SlavekB | I would expect that upgrading from 10.10 to 12.04 would perhaps have tested. |
| SlavekB | ...but I do not use Ubuntu, so I do not know. |
| DexterF | I'll just do the -1104-1110 stunt first |
| SlavekB | And when you try straight to 4.12? |
| SlavekB | 12.4 ;) |
| * Strangelv is part of the gorup taht chickened out on teh idea of upping directly from Meerkat to Pangolin. He's gon a machine that's been running Natty since yesterday | |
| Strangelv | "Straight to 4.12? |
| * Strangelv looks for a Warty disk | |
| SlavekB | 12.04 I thought, of course ;) |
| * Strangelv wonders if DExter's found a solution for a program that only crashes on one machine, and still does so after deleting the configuration directory, uninstall --purge, reinstall, reinstalling dependancies, and upgrading to a newer version of the distro | |
| Strangelv | I found a nightly, but it crashes in the exact same way |
| Strangelv | My ex-hypothesis had been a dependancy that was upgraded out of sinch |
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| kjavi | hello |
| kjavi | I have a little problem with trinity |
| kjavi | I cant see the power of my netbook |
| kjavi | nobody knows ? |
| SlavekB | What do you mean "power"? |
| kjavi | the battery |
| SlavekB | kpowersave-trinity you have installed? |
| kjavi | i dont now, I am going to check |
| kjavi | thanks |
| kjavi | and do you know how can I use with trinity the key of volume and the brightness ? |
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| SlavekB | Asus EeePC? |
| kjavi | no, it is a samsung netbook |
| kjavi | in gnome works by default |
| SlavekB | Hmm, for EeePC it is a package eeepc-acpi-scripts, which adds acpi scripts that response to a buttons. |
| kjavi | can it work with my netbook? |
| SlavekB | I do not know. |
| kjavi | ok, I will try this too |
| SlavekB | I do not know whether your buttons generate acpi events, or evdev on keyboard. |
| kjavi | what is the diference? |
| SlavekB | evdev are just keystrokes. It could be set up keyboard shortcuts. |
| kjavi | I think evdev, but I am not sure |
| SlavekB | On acpi events must respond acpi scripts == this is more at the system level. |
| SlavekB | As a result acpi events are independent of the DM. |
| kjavi | then, is evdev |
| SlavekB | In this case you can try setting the keyboard shortcuts. |
| kjavi | i tried, but I don t works |
| kjavi | I think is because is the key fn |
| SlavekB | Neither the volume with kmix? |
| SlavekB | You can try running xev - if they really see keystrokes. |
| kjavi | How can I use it? |
| SlavekB | Run the 'Konsole' and then run xev from this console. |
| kjavi | it detect it |
| kjavi | ahh, now works the power :D |
| SlavekB | And if you want to set global shortcuts in kmix, the keystroke not responding? |
| kjavi | yes, but does not do nothing |
| SlavekB | Adjusting the volume in kmix work? |
| kjavi | In kmix I can set it, but if a press the keys nothing happen |
| kjavi | I press the keys but nothing happen |
| SlavekB | But in setting the keyboard shortcut keystroke to appear? |
| kjavi | I cant find them |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 974 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=974 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDM creates nominal profile directories in /tmp |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 393 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=393 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Incorrect kdesu Behavior When Opening Kate |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | just upgraded 10.10-11.04-11.10. the first upgrade came with a lot of problems removing trinity and now I see I have lots of old packages. |
| DexterF | tried to remove them, but each time I do so aptitude wants to remove all sorts of packages, about 200, including wine, smplayer and alike |
| DexterF | does not make sense. how can I cleanly remove the old 10.10 trinity? |
| Space_Man | shoot it from space |
| DexterF | not an option |
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| Z_God | DexterF: old trinity? |
| Z_God | maybe you'd better just upgrade to the new version? |
| Z_God | btw |
| DexterF | Z_God: yes, 3.5.12 on ubuntu 10.10 |
| Z_God | I have the oneiric version on ubuntu 12.04 here |
| DexterF | well - that's what I'm doing right now |
| Z_God | yep, just upgrade |
| DexterF | Z_God: does it work ok? any trouble installing? |
| Z_God | it works fine |
| Z_God | but it doesn't install easily yet |
| Z_God | I had to recompile a few packages by hand |
| Z_God | and I had to edit some dependencies by hand |
| DexterF | ill stick to 11.10 for now |
| DexterF | ...once I got it working... |
| Z_God | yep, I guess it'll work better |
| Z_God | but I wouldn't remove any old packages |
| Z_God | just let it upgrade to the newer versions |
| DexterF | shuttleworth should make trinibuntu... so many people who prefer kde3 over 4 or gnome or unity |
| Z_God | it's a matter of getting trinity into the debian/ubuntu repository |
| Z_God | then it'll be a matter of having an extra metapackage |
| Z_God | there is a lot of work going on in this direction |
| DexterF | which means someonw has to maintain in fitting their release cycles |
| Z_God | not really |
| DexterF | it is? good news. |
| Z_God | once it's in, it's in |
| Z_God | the problem is that there are still conflicts with kde4 now |
| DexterF | ditch kde4 ;) |
| Z_God | I'm on kde4 now actually :P |
| DexterF | i'd rather go for xfce |
| Z_God | it has become a lot better, but there are still minor glitches |
| DexterF | better like un-bloated? like intuitive configuration? |
| Z_God | it's not so slow anymore |
| DexterF | does one still have to unlock the panel to move around items in it? |
| DexterF | the new kmail was horrible when I last looked at it in 4.3 or 4.4 |
| Z_God | yep I think |
| Z_God | but I think kicker has the same |
| Z_God | that's the point of locking it |
| DexterF | tons of panels for no good reason, address book was weird... |
| Z_God | the problems I still have are disappearing taskbar text (I fixed that one myself) |
| Z_God | alt+tab doesn't work properly |
| Z_God | and the quickfolder is broken |
| DexterF | um, no, if I want to move things on kicker I take them with middle click and drag them to where I like them. like always |
| Z_God | does that work when it's locked as well? |
| Z_God | I never tried it |
| DexterF | i never locked it. why would I |
| Z_God | but why would you lock the panel in KDE4 then? |
| DexterF | last time I looked one could not use it when unlocked |
| DexterF | spawned external dialogs and such |
| Z_God | I don't know about that |
| Z_God | it seems buggy |
| Z_God | but I do not move things around that much |
| Z_God | I had problems with that as well |
| DexterF | if there was sth like knewsticker in xfce I'd go for xfce altogether |
| DexterF | lightweight, does what I need, better applets |
| Z_God | you use trinity only for knewsticker?? |
| DexterF | Z_God: well, I don't like changes in my desktop systems. I like consistency. and knewsticker, well, that's the best news reader concept I know |
| DexterF | I could use something else, sure. but I don't want to. |
| DexterF | and I like kmail/kde3 better than tbird. |
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| Z_God | but then you use trinity also for kmail :) |
| Z_God | I thought knewsticker was an rss client btw? |
| Z_God | not a news reader |
| DexterF | bad choice of words |
| DexterF | rss client then |
| DexterF | alright... new trinity is in... al named -trinity, old were -kde3. would that have updated automatically? |
| Z_God | the -kde3 packages are all transitional |
| Z_God | you can ignore them |
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| DexterF | alright then. gonna try a trinity session... |
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| DexterF | well, fuck. |
| DexterF | kdm crashes with an unresolved symbol error, lightdm starts an xfce session even when I told it to go TDE |
| DexterF | kwin: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdeinit_kwin.so: undefined symbol: _Z14set_tqt_x_timem |
| DexterF | /opt/trinity/bin/kdm_greet: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/bin/kdm_greet: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv |
| DexterF | hmm. same when calling kmail from terminal. seems like some central libs package was not properly updated |
| Z_God | yeah sometimes it happens |
| Z_God | what version are you on now? |
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| DexterF | Z_God: 3.5.13 on ubuntu 11.10. but found something: tim himself wrote: Looks like you have Qt3.3.8b installed; you will need to install Qt 3.3.8d |
| DexterF | from the TDE repository. |
| DexterF | but what package? there's a ton of qt packages |
| Z_God | libqt3-mt |
| Z_God | it seems |
| Z_God | it should be provided by the trinity repository |
| DexterF | coming.... |
| DexterF | kded [kdeinit] --new-startup: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: _Z14get_tqt_x_timev |
| DexterF | :( |
| Z_God | are you sure everything is installed? |
| Z_God | sudo apt-get update |
| Z_God | sudo apt-get -f install |
| Z_God | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| DexterF | libtqtinterface comes wit dist-upgrade |
| DexterF | yay, success |
| DexterF | thanks, Z_God |
| Z_God | DexterF: np :) |
| DexterF | new attempt on a session... |
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| DexterF | weeeeeeeell. |
| DexterF | it now runs the settings wizard as if I made a new account |
| DexterF | running kmail from here the same |
| DexterF | apparently it looks in different directories for settings? is it now ~/.trinity instead of .kde(3)? |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | indeed |
| Z_God | you need to move your settings |
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| Xu_R | ugh. Paypal is screwing with my account :( |
| * Xu_R couldn't donate more than $5 because of Paypal's idioticness and their thirst for too much personal information | |
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| DexterF | now this isnt good |
| DexterF | i copied .kde3 to .trinity, still my desktop and programs look like the account is all new |
| DexterF | help |
| DexterF | just noticed I copied the entire .kde3 *into* .trinity. bwah har har |
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| DexterF | ok. got my settings back. |
| DexterF | a lot of crashing going on here |
| DexterF | korgac crashes reproducably |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 406 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=406 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] KMail always checks mail after sending |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 928 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=928 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdm starts too early |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 958 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=958 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: gcc 4.7 update causes build failures throughout TDE |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 953 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=953 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kmail composer is crashing, when kmail is used with kontact |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 980 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=980 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: kvirc package is unusable |
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| adrwq | hello |
| adrwq | do you know how can I down the brightness ? |
| adrwq | in trinity |
| adrwq | nobody knows? |
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| DexterF | oi |
| DexterF | had this applet on 10.10, cant remember the name. shows cpu speed and such in numbers. |
| DexterF | where can I lookup the elements in kicker? |
| SlavekB | This? It seems that is no longer maintained |
| SlavekB | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kcpufreq+for+Debian?content=32816 |
| DexterF | ah, it's "kima" |
| DexterF | but *real* problem came up now: printer won't print |
| SlavekB | Yes, Kima is a good choice. |
| DexterF | multifunction printer, brother. brother provided drivers, worked fine. cups even sees the network printer but jobs end without anything being printed |
| DexterF | scanner works fine, xsane over network.... |
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| rzs19 | good evning my friends :) |
| rzs19 | will TDE 3.5.14 come out on 01.05 ? |
| Space_Man | 1st May or 5th January? |
| Space_Man | I suspect 5h Jan 2013 is more likely :P |
| SlavekB | 1st May is daring idea. :D |
| Space_Man | you could use SlavekB's ppa |
| Space_Man | it is a rolling version of Trinity |
| rzs19 | 1st May. |
| rzs19 | becouse they said spring, and i read it somewhere, |
| rzs19 | or was it a drea mlast night... no idea... |
| Space_Man | as spring moves around the globe this means that a spring release is a moving target :P |
| rzs19 | lol |
| rzs19 | so, there is an inofficial rolling release repo? |
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| Space_Man | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis |
| Space_Man | it is an updated version of 3.5.13 with lots of bug fixes |
| rzs19 | nice, i wil ltake look on it :) |
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| * Strangelv dumps a few liters of a fluid of unknown flammability onto the KWin4/TWin email discussion | |
| rzs19 | what is the stand atm? |
| Strangelv | I'm not sure. I've missed most of the discussion |
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| rzs19 | well, so i need t oread the archive, when i have sometime. |
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| Strangelv | Hell, TokRa |
| Strangelv | "Hello |
| Strangelv | "Sorry for the typo |
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| * Strangelv promptly has a probable system panic probably caused by slightly incompatibel with SSD drivers again. He should probably hunt down an SATA card | |
| * TokRa hails Strangelv | |
| rzs19 | forgett SSD, we got a solution, for years now, called /dev/null, fucking fast, no space limitation. |
| rzs19 | rw only* |
| rzs19 | w* |
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| Strangelv | /dev/null isn't fast enough. Need more write-only memory |
| rzs19 | wtf, not fast enough? |
| Strangelv | "actually, the problem is that my entire swap from time to time becomes /dev/null or WOM |
| Strangelv | "One of the few things that can reliably caues a kernel panic |
| MutantTurkey | wait what.... |
| MutantTurkey | it's an empty descriptior no? |
| MutantTurkey | dev/null doesn't fill up |
| rzs19 | /dev/null is a pointer in another dimension :) |
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| * Strangelv 's 2.6.38-14-generic kernel wants the stashed parts of itself back from the swap partition on /dev/null | |
| * Strangelv looks to see if any of the liquid of unknown flammmability he threw at the TWin/KWin4 thread reached the target of if it evaporated from the heat before arriving | |
| Strangelv | /me reads: " |
| Strangelv | Are you asking whether there is any code which code be moved from KWin to |
| Strangelv | TWin? If yes, no, I want to resolve the fork and not create a Frankenstein. |
| Strangelv | " |
| Strangelv | from Gräßlin. So much for my attempt to shift the debate |
| MutantTurkey | i think people made some good points against martin |
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| Strangelv | wb |
| Strangelv | Q: What would be an appropriate source for code names for various effort,s projects, revision,s and tests? |
| Strangelv | Perhaps the next idea on the I have on the Gräßlin front is one I'm probably not qualified to generate: a list of requirements if he's really, really serious about getting us to consider using KWin4+ -- removability of use of certian libraries, compatibility with some others, compatibility with legacy technologies he's otherwise wanting to eliminate support for, what else? |
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| Strangelv | wb |
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| P-Chan | Hello Guys! Will TDE suppot Ubuntu 12.04? |
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| P-Chan | tbottu: How many programers in TDE? |
| tbottu | P-Chan: Error: "How" is not a valid command. |
| P-Chan | Bomfunk: How your guys project survive without money? |
| MutantTurkey | P-Chan: hey |
| MutantTurkey | money? It's called open source? |
| MutantTurkey | Though we are concluding a fundraiser today |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: but opensource isn't free |
| MutantTurkey | wat |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
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| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: what's up? |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: Free software isn't free |
| MutantTurkey | It cost time and energy yest |
| MutantTurkey | fiscally no, not when developers are donating thier own free time |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: TDE is stable now? |
| MutantTurkey | I use it as my desktop for over a year now |
| MutantTurkey | works quite well for me. |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB has a repository I suggest you look at if you are interested. |
| MutantTurkey | it is our latest release + all the patches in our devel tree |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: As I talked on Friday about a problem with SAK dialog from the desktop, so I already solved this. |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: its free of virus? How hackers earn money to continue project? |
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| MutantTurkey | P-Chan: what? |
| MutantTurkey | are you trolling? I don't understand. |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: how many programers in TDE? |
| MutantTurkey | I'm not sure |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: no i am not trolling |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | well you said "is it free of virus" |
| MutantTurkey | so |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: I am not american and my english is very bad |
| MutantTurkey | that made me think you either are trolling or don't know about gnu/linux very much |
| MutantTurkey | P-Chan: ok :-) |
| MutantTurkey | P-Chan: what is your native language? we have a few international people here |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: PORTUGUESE |
| MutantTurkey | Err I don't think we have anyone from portugal here. |
| MutantTurkey | But, our development team is small |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: I am brazilian |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | cool! |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: Why TDE developers can't create a customized linux with TDE by default? |
| MutantTurkey | there is! |
| MutantTurkey | It uses Fedora is that ok with you? |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: oh no thank beacause not have better support in google |
| P-Chan | for example |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | http://mirror.ets.kth.se/trinity/trinity/rpm/f16/trinity-3.5.13/ISO/ |
| P-Chan | tutorias for ubuntu is easy to find |
| MutantTurkey | that is a link to the Fedora LiveCD |
| MutantTurkey | that is true |
| P-Chan | thanks I will try |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: For example Debian is a cool distro but is very hard for windows users or mac users |
| MutantTurkey | It is true |
| MutantTurkey | I use ArchLinux ;-) |
| MutantTurkey | so much harder to use |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: yes. I have fear to use hard distro |
| MutantTurkey | I see |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: For example Ubuntu haves ppa |
| MutantTurkey | well this fedora CD is easy to use |
| MutantTurkey | yes PPA's are nice |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: is there a debian livecd? |
| P-Chan | I can use LTS for 3 years with ppa |
| SlavekB | Debian with some modifications: |
| SlavekB | http://exegnulinux.net/ |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: oh man thanks |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: I have not tried it, so I do not know how well it works. |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: do you know the developer? |
| P-Chan | I have afraid to test to uknown developer |
| P-Chan | beacause free software can used for any purpose |
| P-Chan | for all purpose |
| SlavekB | ExeLinux is prepared by David Hare. |
| MutantTurkey | I've conversed with him online |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: ok! Thanks a lot man. I am generic user and google is better support with debian based distribuition |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: On that page describes what changes are between Debian and ExeLinux. |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: YES it is for newbie users |
| SlavekB | Nice Live distribution is also Porteus (based on Slax) - in 32bit version includes Trinity. |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: But i am a generic user and i hate compile |
| P-Chan | thanks for your helping |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: why some distros like Mint and Super os comes with codecs and and proprietary plugins |
| P-Chan | ? |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: For example, for binary drivers for graphics cards. |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: They can provide higher performance than the opensource drivers, but I'm avoiding them when possible. |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: I use Linux in my college in live pendrive to use processing and pure data extended |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: Another thing may be, for example codecs for Windows Media. |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: PLEASE don't stop TDE project. KDE 3 is better. KDE 4 hang on my pc |
| P-Chan | KDE4 is more beautiful. it is true |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: Try referred Porteus - in the 32bit version contains the Trinity, the 64bit version contains KDE4. |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: With it you can clearly test the difference in performance and appearance. |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: why the developers can't use only one distro? |
| P-Chan | For example or DEBIAN for all world or fedora |
| SlavekB | :) |
| SlavekB | They have their reasons for choosing "their" distribution. |
| * Strangelv isn't sure when he upgraded from KDE 3.5.10 to TDE 11 | |
| Strangelv | "It's been years |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: is possible isntall linux 64 to upgrade 32 bits linux and maintain the TDE? |
| P-Chan | Other question. Why LINUX haves few applications? |
| Strangelv | DEpendingo n what you mean the answer is either 'yes' or 'it depends on your distro' |
| P-Chan | Developers only create desktop enviroments |
| Strangelv | What do you mean by few applications? |
| P-Chan | for example |
| Strangelv | "What sort of application are you finding a shortage of options for? |
| P-Chan | Linux haves only Gimp or Krita por raster edition |
| P-Chan | The operation system rival haves |
| P-Chan | Photoshop, Gimp, Corel, Inkscape, Adobe illistrator... |
| P-Chan | do you understand? |
| Strangelv | Cinepaint, which admittedly is a fork from GIMP. Myself I've been surprised that nobody created one using GIMP's innards and a more conventional interface |
| MutantTurkey | we have inkscape :-) |
| P-Chan | Strangelv: Gimp in 2012 not supports 16 bit yet |
| Strangelv | ...as someone woh's been using GIMP since 1.1 I'm not a good judge for what's wrong with it as I surmounted the difficult learning curve when it was more difficult than it is now... |
| Strangelv | "Cinepaint does, but I'm not sure if it's being maintained |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: You mixed bitmap and vector editors! |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: But inkscape in 2012 not support mesh yet |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: yes man |
| MutantTurkey | I know |
| MutantTurkey | what is your point though? |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: thanks for maintain support for KDE 3 |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: i LOve it |
| Strangelv | "I believe his point is that the options availab/le are missing featuers he's using |
| P-Chan | Strangelv: the exelinux download is very slow |
| P-Chan | I will stop |
| Strangelv | exelinux? |
| P-Chan | debian torrents is faster but debian is a nightmare for windows users |
| P-Chan | Strangelv: yes man |
| SlavekB | :) |
| * Strangelv isn't caught up on this discussion and missed the explanation of what exelinux is | |
| SlavekB | Ubuntu == for those who can not handle Debian ;) |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: but today ubuntu is easy but is very unstable the last LTS |
| SlavekB | Even so, I think Debian install is not so difficult :) |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: debian install is very easy |
| P-Chan | but web configuration to conect internet is hard |
| P-Chan | Debian not find my internet easily |
| MutantTurkey | dhclient should be all ya need? |
| Strangelv | The main things i couldn't handle with straight up Debian was the fact that everyone's packages were compiled against Sid. ...That and its legendarily bad installer which didn't get better when they replaced it with Sarge. Then the Sid repositories went to Hell. I'd used Libranet to solve the installer problem, but by the time I had money to buy Libraten 3.0 it permanantly ceased ot be available at any price |
| P-Chan | My internet is shared with other people |
| MutantTurkey | Arch++ |
| Strangelv | "So Kubuntu 5.04 was my replacement where I didn't catch on at first just how much i needed to stop using the repositories I'd been using for years |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: Like, it is not easy to set up wifi? |
| Strangelv | I'm glad to hear Debian finally has a reliable installer |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: not connect automatically |
| P-Chan | Strangelv: But debian developers removed reiserfs support |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: You have installed the Network Manager? |
| Strangelv | uh oh. That's half my partitions on most of my machines... |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: Debian CD edition not install |
| P-Chan | ¬¬ |
| SlavekB | Oh - when installing. |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: When installing in graphical mode it isn't install |
| P-Chan | The debian installer is very easy |
| P-Chan | I use reiserfs made by Hans Reiser |
| P-Chan | Hans killed the wife |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: can you add drag and drop function in TDE3 like other operation systems? |
| Strangelv | Reiser never played well with others and murder works better for rappers than open source developers, but he still made some very nice disk formats |
| Strangelv | I'd still be using Reiser3 if I trusted its maintenance |
| SlavekB | P-Chan: I am afraid that ReiserFS is unmaintained. |
| Strangelv | As it is, I'm still using it, just not on any partitions I've fgormatted in the past 2 years |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: yes but XFS runs slower here |
| P-Chan | SlavekB: I have some problems with EXT4 |
| Strangelv | What have you run into with ext4? |
| P-Chan | errors in instalation |
| Strangelv | Well that's probably the best place to have them... |
| Strangelv | versus losing your data a few months laterl |
| P-Chan | and Linux developers must create a disk defragment program because some partitions fragments |
| P-Chan | like EXT3 |
| Strangelv | Fortunately, when we finish transitioning to solid state drives fragmenting won't matter anymore |
| MutantTurkey | ext4 is good |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: I not have luck with ext4 |
| * Strangelv 's only solid state drive is his swap partition that sometimes masquerades as /dev/null thanks to a driver issue | |
| Strangelv | "ext4 is what |
| P-Chan | I don't know sey it in english |
| P-Chan | say |
| Z_God | P-Chan: I have the 11.10 version of Trinity on 12.04 here |
| Strangelv | ext4 is what I started using in 2010. I've fgortunately not yet run into any troubles with it |
| Z_God | there are some issues though, it doesn't directly install |
| P-Chan | Z_God: Really? God! Tde need more native program beacause programmers prefer GTK |
| Strangelv | Which native progrlam-s do you consider most important? least? |
| Z_God | P-Chan: yes, I needed to recompile a few packages manually |
| Z_God | and hack some dependencies |
| Strangelv | "Any chance of getting teh recompiled packages up somewhere? |
| Z_God | Strangelv: hmm, let me see if I have them |
| Z_God | it's really really hacky |
| P-Chan | Strangelv: because native programs run faster |
| P-Chan | Krita stopped. Krita haves CYMK support but in 2012 Gimp not have yet man |
| P-Chan | the linux software not mature yet |
| P-Chan | Cymk support is important for desktop publishing and design |
| P-Chan | And KDE4,KDE3 haves few native applications. The people need install Gnome and XFCE dependencies to run gtk applications This is bad a lot |
| Z_God | Strangelv: can't find them atm, I think it was a perl package I had to recompile |
| Z_God | P-Chan: this has nothing to do with performance |
| Z_God | only with integration |
| Z_God | if you consider performance, even what you run in Wine is native |
| P-Chan | Z_God: No man... wine is sux a lot. Native programs must run in native plataforms |
| * Strangelv 's most recent adventure with WINE was trying to run Win32 Inscape. | |
| P-Chan | What porteus is based? |
| Z_God | P-Chan: you don't know what you're talking about it seems ;) give me a reason an application in Wine is not native? |
| Strangelv | "Instant crash |
| P-Chan | Z_God: applications in wine crashes |
| P-Chan | Photoshop haves Bronze in WINE HQ |
| Z_God | P-Chan: native applications can also crash |
| P-Chan | Z_God: no with me |
| Z_God | P-Chan: you must be in heaven there :) |
| P-Chan | Z_God: yes. But Ubuntu is unstable. The only choice for me is debian. But debian is hardest |
| P-Chan | But the installer is very easy like ubuntu |
| P-Chan | http://www.apodio.org/ this distro is dead |
| P-Chan | this distro haves processing and pure data extended |
| P-Chan | but this is old a lot |
| P-Chan | Is possible remaste a linux distribuition iso in windows |
| P-Chan | ? |
| P-Chan | for exemple. Unetbootin runs in windows too |
| Z_God | why use another OS for that? |
| P-Chan | I not have much free space in my linux partition |
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| Z_God | seems easier to solve that ;) |
| P-Chan | Z_God: I not have external HD or Blu ray disk to backup my files |
| Z_God | is it expensive there? |
| P-Chan | Z_God: Do you know a cross plataform remaster program? |
| Z_God | no |
| P-Chan | :( |
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| P-Chan | Z_God: do you know windows XP. do you know drag and drop function? could you put in TDE? I will TDE use qt 4 in the future ? |
| Z_God | P-Chan: I don't understand what you mean |
| Z_God | P-Chan: what's your native language? |
| P-Chan | Z_God: portuguese :( |
| Z_God | I don't know it :( |
| P-Chan | Z_God: hahah |
| Z_God | would be easier if you knew dutch or russian :P |
| P-Chan | Z_God: why companies don't care TDE3 for money support :( ? |
| Z_God | P-Chan: I think it's because there is not enough effort to make them aware of Trinity |
| P-Chan | Z_God: put XP themes support in TDE. |
| Z_God | but I'm not sure what has been going on |
| Z_God | P-Chan: do it yourself! |
| rzs19 | hmm TDE has drag and drop... |
| P-Chan | Z_God: But i am not programer:( |
| Z_God | why should I do it?? |
| rzs19 | and wtf, TDE never wants to be like WindowsXP. |
| rzs19 | becouse there is a God in your name :D |
| P-Chan | Z_God: beacause the windows 8 will not support gui |
| Z_God | but who cares about themes? |
| Z_God | trinity looks fine imo |
| P-Chan | Z_God: really |
| rzs19 | yep trinity looks sexy *fap fap* |
| P-Chan | fap fap hahaha |
| rzs19 | yeah you sexy de, print me out some nasty messages... |
| Z_God | P-Chan: I'd better learn portugese instead of looking at XP themes :P |
| P-Chan | Z_God: to install kde the we need compile some things. In gnome 2 this isn't necessary |
| P-Chan | Z_God: could you change it? |
| rzs19 | i think, icwm has a teletubbie theme? |
| Z_God | P-Chan: compile what? |
| P-Chan | kde 3 themes |
| P-Chan | windows borders |
| P-Chan | well man the exelinux download is very slow :( |
| P-Chan | bad server |
| MobileTurkey | :[ |
| P-Chan | If I were a programmer I would create a universal distro that supports offline packages as EXE and DMG |
| rzs19 | ähm |
| rzs19 | google for "uniOS" |
| rzs19 | ;D |
| P-Chan | rzs19: REALLU |
| rzs19 | unios supports linux, windows and mac bins. |
| P-Chan | REALLY? |
| rzs19 | of course ;D |
| P-Chan | rzs19: with wine? |
| rzs19 | don't know its all crap |
| P-Chan | rzs19: reactos will never be stable in this century |
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| P-Chan | Tuduntu. Ubuntu with TDE... ok guys bye bye |
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| Strangelv | There actually might be a legitimate reason for giving support for some XP bling. It might make it easier to make a department full of machines look almost exactly the same after an OS upgrade |
| Strangelv | Something I discovered during my transition was that making my new desktop look as much as my old one as posible made things a lot easier to handle at a subconsious level |
| Strangelv | "That and running most of teh same applications |
| MobileTurkey | err |
| MobileTurkey | anyone who can't handle different window borders shouldn't use a computer |
| rzs19 | well, i use TDe, becouse it looks like, what it looks like. ... lala |
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| * SlavekB is hungry ... goes to dinner | |
| MobileTurkey | i'm hungry as well |
| SlavekB | MobileTurkey: So go to dinner too :) |
| MobileTurkey | heh working |
| MobileTurkey | it's only 4 in the afternoon |
| SlavekB | MobileTurkey: here are 10pm |
| MobileTurkey | europe no? |
| MobileTurkey | 6 hours ahead |
| SlavekB | Yes, Europe - Czech Republic |
| MobileTurkey | ah |
| MobileTurkey | :-) |
| SlavekB | MobileTurkey: So here it is enough that I should be after dinner :) |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| Strangelv | "It doesn't matter that nobody in the paperclip division should be using a computer. And maybe they have a customized company layout. |
| Strangelv | It's just a thought that P-Chan had |
| Strangelv | ...And I'm just arguing how it could fit with our corporate user strategy |
| Strangelv | ::'s window border solution is one he likes better than the MS Windows. He mostly just plugged in the same wallpaper and was amavzed and alarmed at just how much of a difference that made to his stress level. |
| * Strangelv is not normally the touchy-feely type | |
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| Strangelv | "wb |
| P-Chan | good work |
| P-Chan | Z_God: I am on live usb stick debian with trinity |
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| P-Chan | but sometimes when I change the theme |
| P-Chan | the decoration disappear |
| Z_God | sounds strange |
| P-Chan | I am on exe linux debian based |
| P-Chan | Z_God: Promise you will not abandon the project. |
| Z_God | P-Chan: I have nothing to do with it |
| Z_God | my contribution is not significant |
| Z_God | if at all |
| P-Chan | Z_God: Exe linux isn't in distro watch :( |
| Z_God | Z_God: I don't know it either, what's it about? |
| P-Chan | Z_God: look this http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=exelinux |
| Z_God | ah it comes with trinity? |
| Z_God | seems nice |
| Z_God | maybe the trinity site could have a section on distros that already include trinity |
| P-Chan | Z_God: debian has trinity in repositories? |
| Z_God | P-Chan: no |
| Z_God | that's why this exe gnu/linux distro was created I understand |
| P-Chan | Z_God: How I update the TDE? |
| Z_God | same as the rest of debian |
| MobileTurkey | paper 1 done |
| P-Chan | Z_God: but you say "Debian not have trinity in repositories |
| P-Chan | I liked much trinity |
| Z_God | when you have a system with trinity and its repositories added, updates are done automatically |
| P-Chan | Z_God: ok |
| P-Chan | Trinity is very faster unlike KDE4 |
| Z_God | I'm on KDE4 now |
| Z_God | it's not that bad anymore |
| P-Chan | Z_God: In atom pc runs bad |
| P-Chan | atom processor |
| Z_God | yeah maybe, my notebook is faster |
| Z_God | I disabled loads of stuff in KDE4 though |
| Z_God | all the effects and so on |
| Z_God | and I enabled the plastik theme |
| P-Chan | ok man... bye bye |
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| SlavekB | By the way, I worked on 3.5.13 SRU in Etherpad. |
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| P-Chan | You got money $2,000 to keep the project? |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | what |
| MutantTurkey | $2,000 to help pay for servers, hosting, rebuilds and stuff like that |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: trinity desktop needs 2,000 to port to qt4 |
| MutantTurkey | where does it say that? |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: in the home page |
| MutantTurkey | it's a theme engine for qt4 |
| MutantTurkey | not a port |
| MutantTurkey | it allows qt4 applications to look just like our native applications |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: Why developers not port to qt4? It's more easy beacause the new KDE application was written in qt 4 right? |
| MutantTurkey | there isn't much of a point in porting to qt4 |
| MutantTurkey | not worth it |
| MutantTurkey | TQt3 works well enough for our project, qt4 won't offer us anything extra |
| P-Chan | thank God. |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | have you tried exelinux yes? |
| MutantTurkey | and you are in brazil which means you are also in my time zone I think! |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: yes I tried exelinux. TDE is good but TDE have few applications. |
| MutantTurkey | maybe they aren't installed by default |
| P-Chan | I like debian and debian based application |
| MutantTurkey | I use almost all TDE's applifcations. |
| MutantTurkey | there are tons of them! |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: How Amarok KDE3 amarok does not conflict with the AMAROK KDE 4? |
| MutantTurkey | P-Chan: it's installed in different place :-) |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: Is TDE stable? this project: http://mate-desktop.org/team/ not stable yet |
| MutantTurkey | mate is so new |
| MutantTurkey | trinity is built upon 3.5.10 which was very stable |
| MutantTurkey | now we have had 3 releases already |
| MutantTurkey | we are at 3.5.13 |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: Is installed in different place but has a same name! MATE project changed the application names. |
| MutantTurkey | yes well MATE is a very different project :-) |
| MutantTurkey | we have no involvement with them of course |
| MutantTurkey | no point renaming everything. |
| MutantTurkey | that is just confusing! |
| MutantTurkey | Konsole is going to be what? Tonsole? Konqueror Tonqueror? Kicker Ticker? I mean KDE -> TDE won't just work |
| MutantTurkey | we just leave it as it is |
| MutantTurkey | and only rename certain things |
| MutantTurkey | for example twin |
| MutantTurkey | that's easy to rename because it isn't a real word |
| MutantTurkey | kwin -> twin |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: UGH finals week |
| MutantTurkey | -_- |
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| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: why Canonical, Debian Servers, Red Hat not accept TDE in your repositories? ICEWM is sux but still there. |
| MutantTurkey | that is a goal of the project |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: The developers create various interfaces but why developers create few programs? |
| MutantTurkey | what? |
| MutantTurkey | few programs? |
| MutantTurkey | there are tons! |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: equal Photoshop? No! |
| MutantTurkey | i don't need to use any photo programs |
| MutantTurkey | gimp covers my basic needs |
| P-Chan | MutantTurkey: ¬¬ ok programmer |
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| MutantTurkey | -_- |
| MutantTurkey | what else would I need? |
| MutantTurkey | gimp is good enough for me |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 980 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=980 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kvirc package is unusable |
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| P-Chan | Hey I tried TDE in exelinux. TDE can use Kolourpaint3 or Kolourpaint4? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 981 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=981 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok 3.5.13 FTBFS with Ruby 1.9 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 981 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 982 filed by pfrederick1@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=982 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMahjongg could not locate the file tqlayout |
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| SlavekB | Please, if you use my PPA, please update to the latest version and test it :) |
| SlavekB | Tim waiting for a response before moving packages into official sources. |
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| rzs19 | hmm, i could make a test tomorrow |
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| P-Chan | Please can you guys give me a link to Fedora version? I liked exelinux but I want try fedora |
| P-Chan | Why you guys uses Fedora only? |
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| rzs19 | akregator-trinity : Hängt ab von: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.8d) aber 3:3.3.8b-7+b1 soll installiert werden hmmm |
| SlavekB | libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8d is in the standard apt source of the Trinity. |
| rzs19 | i used your repo, seems that it is in the builddeps? |
| SlavekB | My PPA does not contain anything - just updates. |
| rzs19 | so what should i used? |
| rzs19 | use* |
| SlavekB | You therefore have a standard apt sources Trinity plus my ppa. |
| rzs19 | okay, your last irc msg sounds like 3.5.14 seems to be ready, or was it about a updated 3.5.13 version? |
| rzs19 | i remember something, that we should test something |
| rzs19 | so i want test it and give you feedback |
| rzs19 | maybe i missunderstood something? |
| rzs19 | you know, less sleep and other blah blub |
| SlavekB | My PPA is an update to 3.5.13. |
| rzs19 | oky so something between 13 and 14 |
| rzs19 | and we shouldtest this? |
| rzs19 | or shouldwetest nightly builds? |
| SlavekB | And if it is ready, Tim will give it as official update 3.5.13. |
| rzs19 | i'm little bit confussed. |
| rzs19 | 3.5.13.1 ? |
| SlavekB | Yes, probably so. |
| rzs19 | okay and what is with 3.5.14 ? |
| rzs19 | sprin will be over... |
| rzs19 | spring* |
| rzs19 | sry the voice in my hed it....she...he..what ever isnt there, i'm lost and confussed |
| rzs19 | head* |
| rzs19 | oh there are micro birds :) |
| rzs19 | in more than a hour is the update done, than i can give you a feedback |
| SlavekB | 3.5.14 will be called R14 and there are certainly going to take some time. |
| rzs19 | damn... |
| rzs19 | so i need a DeLorean? |
| rzs19 | wush to the future and get my 3.5.14 :) |
| rzs19 | wuush wuush |
| rzs19 | i'm happy thaht you guys do all that cool stuff |
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| Guest45778 | any body know if you can install trinity on ubuntu 12.04? |
| Guest45778 | can anybody confirm or deny trinity on kubuntu12.05 Precise Pangolin |
| Guest45778 | *12.04 sorry |
| Space_Man | not yet |
| Space_Man | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3015 |
| Space_Man | hopefully in the near future there will be a version to test |
| Guest45778 | thanks, I think there should be a not yet on the trinity website untill it is out.Do you it will be out soon? |
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| Space_Man | oh |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 554 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=554 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 983 filed by office@klepp.biz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=983 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, PovRay 3.7 syntax highlighting for kate |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 984 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=984 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Various patches for Amarok (proposal for 3.5.13.1) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 985 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=985 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kdesu: remove the "ignore" button |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 986 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=986 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Forces HAL backend to honor HAL mount options |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 986 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 985 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=985 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Kdesu: remove the "ignore" button |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 980 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=980 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: kvirc package is unusable |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 987 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=987 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KNotes not remember open notes |
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| cpatrick08 | i was wondering when support for ubunru 12.04LTS precise would begin |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 988 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=988 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kxdglauncher locale access broken for variable DOCUMENTS |
| tbottu | 10rom_as@oscada.org changed the Status on bug 988 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 989 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=989 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Documents directory expand into System menu broken. |
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| nicky | hello |
| nicky | I'm having trouble building trinity-base/kdelibs on gentoo, is this the right place to ask? |
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| NeKit | does anyone use Trinity on Gentoo here? |
| nicky | everyone's away, huh |
| nicky | I do |
| nicky | or I'm trying to |
| NeKit | any ebuilds? |
| nicky | I use this overlay: http://wiki.hasnoname.de/tde:trinity-overlay_on_funtoo_gentoo |
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| nicky | but it requires some ebuild patching (change media-libs/jpeg dep to virtual/jpeg and >=trinity-base/tqtinterface dep to trinity-base/tqtinterface) |
| nicky | I also can't get past building kdelibs right now... |
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| MutantTurkey | hey guys im here |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | nicky: saw somebody having questions... connection got cut though |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| MutantTurkey | :o |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: finals almost over :-) |
| nicky | Moving back and forth between this box and the gentoo one, I'm having trouble building trinity-base/kdelibs, but I'm not sure this is the right place to ask... |
| nicky | It's a make error where apparently, make complains it can't find symbol KApplication KApplication::KARGBApplication(bool) which is implemented iff Q_WS_X11 /OR/ COMPOSITE is not defined |
| nicky | I just tried patching the .h with the correct signature, and I'll see how it goes... I wanted to know if anyone knew what was happening exactly... |
| nicky | This comes from the Trinity-Overlay at http://wiki.hasnoname.de (not the one maintained by serghei), however... |
| nicky | No, still failed. It might be because modifying a work file doesn't work well with portage (and thus be a gentoo problem...) |
| nicky | seeing as the URI specified grabs the files directly from pearson-computing's repo, it seems it might be an issue with trinity, I doubt it's gentoo specific, and it's not caused by the overlay (since it's a make error)... |
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| SlavekB | Interesting - I did not even know that someone is working on Gentoo builds again. |
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| nicky | They're seriously understaffed (1 person, I think) but it seems they are actively working on it, seeing as the home page was last modified April 1st, this year. |
| nicky | latest changes date back from feb 23, though. |
| SlavekB | It's not so distant date. |
| nicky | I'm getting somewhere: I forced -DCOMPOSITE, now it complains about X11 composite extension not being installed... if I can find out which package this belongs to, it should compile fine... |
| SlavekB | I have to go... |
| irony | Uh, may I ask how many devs the Trinity project has? |
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| nicky | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/contributors.php |
| nicky | basically, 4 |
| irony | That's not a lot of people... |
| irony | At least when compared to the number of bugs entered |
| nicky | I'd volunteer to help because I can't stand the new DEs (including Unity, KDE4+, Gnome3...), and KDE3.5 has always been kind to me, but I am too busy as it is :( |
| nicky | welp, it seems (not sure yet...) that my kdelib finally managed to compile... please, someone tell pearson to either include xorg-server as a dependency for kdelibs, OR to include a conditionally compiled declaration for KApplication KApplication::KARGApplication(bool) in the head, with conditions #if !defined(Q_WS_X11) || !defined(COMPOSITE) |
| nicky | KARGB* |
| nicky | confirmed success. |
| * irony not sure if the project's development will be secure for multiple years | |
| MutantTurkey | irony: which project? |
| MutantTurkey | yeesh yummy lunch but that line was too long |
| MutantTurkey | The Paradox of Irony? yeesh |
| MutantTurkey | I'm The Calvin of Morrison |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| irony | MutantTurkey: Trinity |
| MutantTurkey | I mean as much as I hear that talk, We've have 3 solid releases and a 4th one on the way |
| MutantTurkey | in the past year I would say our developer participation has improved considerably and we just finished a fundraiser for maintaining the servers |
| MutantTurkey | say it's doing pretty well |
| irony | Oh, you finished a fundraiser... |
| irony | Nevermind then, the support is strong with this one. |
| irony | Time to go home to KDE3 |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | I mean I say "it's not dead till nobody uses it anymore" |
| MutantTurkey | I still play my Nintendo system from back in the 80's. hey it's still going strong! |
| MutantTurkey | nothing is dead until it fails to have users |
| irony | Well |
| irony | I guess that means "happy building" |
| irony | Thanks for clearing that up. |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| nicky | If dbus-tqt is supposed to provide qt3 bindings for dbus, it's lacking some such that kioslaves can't build... namely QtDbus::connection::* |
| MutantTurkey | do you have dbus-qt for qt3?: |
| nicky | yes |
| MutantTurkey | hold up |
| MutantTurkey | let me look at my packages |
| MutantTurkey | you also should look at the tde-packaging repository |
| MutantTurkey | at git.trinitydesktop.org |
| MutantTurkey | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/ |
| nicky | I basically have it through the overlay |
| MutantTurkey | so there's: trinity dbus-1-qt3 dbus-tqt and dbus-tqt-1 |
| MutantTurkey | have them all? |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: do you have any idea which is whichj? |
| Xu_R | dbus-tqt were the original qt3 bindings |
| Xu_R | tqt-1 was the backport |
| Xu_R | (from qt4) |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: also is OBS free for everyone? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: yup |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| MutantTurkey | hows school going? |
| Xu_R | AP exams start next week! ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ (_ _) *wham* |
| nicky | I tried with dbus-tqt + qt-dbus first, then I added dbus-1-tqt, then I removed it and qt-dbus, then I tried using dbus-qt3-old (from kde-sunset, a repo for kde 3.5.10), but the other packages in trinity seem to depend on the tqt version which conflicts with qt3-old |
| MutantTurkey | you should only use the ones provided by trinity |
| MutantTurkey | because our Qt3 is not ABI compat and then there is TQt etc |
| Xu_R | confusion ensures! |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | exactly |
| nicky | I'll try and confirm my version is the same as the repo's and if the repo's has the correct bindings in the header... |
| nicky | for now I have: undefined reference to DBusQt::Connection::dbus_connection_setup_with_qt_main(DBusConnection*) and DBusQt::Connection::Connection(QObject*) |
| MutantTurkey | nicky: can you paste the whole error? |
| MutantTurkey | nicky: are you using the trinity qt3 sources btw? |
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| MutantTurkey | nicky: you should post on the development ML because we have other people who use gentoo sub'd there. |
| MutantTurkey | nicky: eh? |
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| nicky | Well, I'm back. I'm going to post the whole error I get from trying to compile kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.13... |
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| nicky | this is the relevant snippet from my build log: http://pastebin.com/AnUwwYrQ |
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| nicky | building without hal support worked... |
| nicky | what does kioslaves use hal for, exactly? |
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| nicky | is kontact in the github? |
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| tbottu | 10yehjj@pchome.com.tw changed the Status on bug 823 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=823 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Fedora 16 qt3 installation conflicts qt4 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 823 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=823 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Fedora 16 qt3 installation conflicts qt4 |
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| DexterF | hoi |
| DexterF | upgrading 11.10 to 12.04 I get "cannot upgrade, "kubuntu-desktop-trinity" is locked by the system |
| DexterF | what do I do about that? |
| DexterF | the original english message is: The package 'kubuntu-desktop-trinity' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist. |
| SlavekB | Trinity 3.5.13 does not have packages for Precise. And perhaps because of some broken dependencies the system has desire to drop "ubuntu-desktop-trinity". |
| DexterF | plan is right now to switch to xfce untill trinity for 12.04 is ready. I'd wait, but 11.10 is really, really horrible |
| SlavekB | If you want to experiment you can try nightly-builds. |
| DexterF | absolutely! |
| DexterF | that's a ppa? |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/+packages?start=0&batch=300 |
| DexterF | how do I upgrade then? install ppa, then upgrade? |
| DexterF | or remove trinity, reinstall after system upgrade? |
| SlavekB | Add the PPA to the sources and then run upgrade. |
| DexterF | hmm. got a few 404s |
| DexterF | Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net oneiric/main amd64 Packages |
| DexterF | 404 Not Found |
| DexterF | oh, wrong sources |
| DexterF | my fault |
| DexterF | http://pastebin.com/tPqDwUBL |
| DexterF | did not go well |
| DexterF | lots of 404 fetching packages. |
| DexterF | pointers? |
| DexterF | I put the deb line to "oneiric" in order to have 11.10 up to date as much as possible |
| DexterF | should I rather adept to precise directly? |
| SlavekB | Strange. I tried one of them download manually and it worked without problems. |
| DexterF | No matching package for 'libsmokeqt1-trinity'. |
| DexterF | says the package filter |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 990 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=990 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ktechlab FTBFS: will not install previously installed file |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 990 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| DexterF | gtg |
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| Strangelv | :: makes a note to stick with 11.04 for awhile |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 991 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=991 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kvirc 3.5.13 FTBFS : missing linker flags |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 991 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 992 filed by contact@philipashmore.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=992 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok displays incorrect track lengths |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 992 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=992 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Amarok displays incorrect track lengths |
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| cpatrick08 | the https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds for Precise gives the following error when i try to update my sources W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net_trinity_trinity-nightly-builds_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-amd64_Packages Hash Sum mismatch |
| cpatrick08 | same for 32 bit |
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| cpatrick008 | will there be a iso of TDE kubuntu 12.04 Precise the latest one of Maverick which Eol'd last month |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net oneiric Release: the following signatures are invalid : BADSIG 43F1DC4F2B8638D0 QuickBuild Trinity Desktop Environment |
| DexterF | why and what do I do about it? (aptitude upgrade) |
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| cpatrick08 | i have installed virtualbox and make,gcc,kernel-default-devel and i can only run virtualbox from the terminal |
| cpatrick08 | the Kernel of The Day btw |
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| Space_Man | DexterF: did you add the GPG key "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys 2B8638D0" |
| Space_Man | it is step 2 http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#ubuntu |
| DexterF | Space_Man: yup. |
| Space_Man | try it again :P |
| Space_Man | I've just tried "sudo apt-get update" |
| Space_Man | everything worked as expected |
| * Space_Man is also using oneiric | |
| DexterF | nwo i get tons of 404s again... |
| DexterF | http://pastebin.com/QhUmWmDf |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 993 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=993 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdegraphics 3.5.13 : FTBFS when using non-standard installation of poppler |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 993 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| DexterF | ok - apt does not work, 404 errors and all. how can I download manually? |
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| Space_Man | DexterF: looks like some of the deb's are missing from the nightly repo |
| Space_Man | file a bug report |
| Space_Man | that will fix it :P |
| SlavekB | It is possible that just are not yet compiled. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 993 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=993 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kdegraphics 3.5.13 : FTBFS when using non-standard installation of poppler |
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| leahcim | Hi, I seem to be having a difficult time finding the daily builds, specifically packages containing a fix for http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 669: blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, new screen locker with dual-head setup: secondary screen doesn't get hidden! |
| leahcim | Building from source myself may be a little beyonf my capability (and available diskspace) :P |
| SlavekB | It might help youhttp://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3008 |
| SlavekB | It might help you: |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3008 |
| * leahcim takes a look. | |
| leahcim | Sweet, thanks! |
| leahcim | Though it looks like kdesktop_lock is failing to actually launch the screensaver. |
| * leahcim wonders if he needs to update other packages too. | |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 981 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=981 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Amarok 3.5.13 FTBFS with Ruby 1.9 |
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| DexterF | hi |
| MobileTurkey | hi! |
| DexterF | my 11.10 finally broke so bad I had to up to 12.04. I'm on xfce currently. main problem right now is I don't have kmail to access my mail as I removed trinity completely. |
| DexterF | what are my option apart from building from src? |
| MobileTurkey | well DexterF I think kbvqf has started doing beta builds for 12.04 |
| DexterF | (as a last resort I'd build from src, too. but first things first.) |
| DexterF | MobileTurkey: deb repos? |
| MobileTurkey | yes repositories |
| DexterF | want! |
| MobileTurkey | it's on quickbuild |
| MobileTurkey | let me find a link. |
| DexterF | umm |
| MobileTurkey | btw its major beta. |
| MobileTurkey | quickbuild is basically trinity desktops build system. |
| MobileTurkey | (it's actually launchpad, but we run it internally) |
| MobileTurkey | (we aka tim) |
| DexterF | I suck at software developing, build systems are voodoo to me, I was on slackware for years. tgz or make :) |
| MobileTurkey | heh understandable |
| DexterF | actually, xfce is quite nice.. |
| MobileTurkey | yes I do think it is good |
| MobileTurkey | It's missing the integration though that I like |
| MobileTurkey | I'm not really a fan of the terminal emulator either that they provide |
| MobileTurkey | overall a solid product |
| MobileTurkey | I am actually building the latest GIT development sources against 12.04 now: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.series_filter=precise&field.status_filter=published&start=0&batch=300 |
| MobileTurkey | As you can see there is some work that needs to be done, but not too bad |
| MobileTurkey | overall. |
| MobileTurkey | Tim |
| MobileTurkey | DexterF: that's a copy of his email |
| DexterF | cant access mail atm :D |
| DexterF | well.. lets see whats what... |
| DexterF | cert alert... |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| MobileTurkey | it's borked |
| DexterF | well. how do I add that repos? I got a line here... |
| DexterF | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu precise main |
| DexterF | ^ that ok like that? |
| MobileTurkey | you know I am not sure |
| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: hey do you know how to enable the nightly builds? |
| SlavekB | Yes, the line is properly. |
| MobileTurkey | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu oneiric main |
| MobileTurkey | this is mine |
| MobileTurkey | okay then |
| MobileTurkey | very good |
| DexterF | so that's his private mirror? |
| DexterF | I spoke to slavek the other day, had some trouble with the debs tho |
| MobileTurkey | yes unfortunately it is not the fastest :[ |
| DexterF | new try. |
| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: I think we should pitch in another fundraiser to pay for a mirror for 1 year |
| DexterF | hmm. maybe the problem was timeouts. where can I conf apt for that? |
| DexterF | fundraiser: count me in. does anybody have an idea how many people use trinity at all? |
| SlavekB | DexterF: These are the "classic" nightly-builds. I think you've tried it for Oneiric. |
| MobileTurkey | DexterF: not sure, it's hard to know with open source |
| DexterF | MobileTurkey: well, downloads? |
| MobileTurkey | DexterF: we have a few different mirrors |
| MobileTurkey | plus places like munich which has thousands of boxes, but use their own systems to deploy |
| DexterF | how about sourceforge? |
| MobileTurkey | meh |
| DexterF | sf not hot anymore these days? |
| DexterF | W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net_trinity_trinity-nightly-builds_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-amd64_Packages Hash Sum mismatch |
| DexterF | ??? |
| SlavekB | A pity that we can not be used for counting Debian popularity-contest. |
| MobileTurkey | for $225 per year, VPS-Forge offers 1024MB of ram, 150Gb of RAID1 storage, 800gb per month bandwidth (with $1 extra per 100GB when you run over), 99.9% uptime... |
| DexterF | SlavekB: which you could if trinity was an official package set? |
| MobileTurkey | i mean that is just one company |
| DexterF | 600EUR = german strato, all traffic included |
| MobileTurkey | what's that from? |
| SlavekB | If Trinity was an official part of Debian, so there would be counted. |
| MobileTurkey | and we would get massive more users because it would be in repositories |
| DexterF | which means more devs. |
| DexterF | more testers |
| DexterF | more bug report details |
| SlavekB | But it would be only for Debian, which would still not enough. |
| DexterF | Trinibuntu? |
| DexterF | SlavekB: mind if I use your mirror? from what the interblag tells me that hash mismatch thing is due to overloaded mirrors |
| DexterF | that is, if you have the 12.04 builds |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately I not have build for 12.04. |
| SlavekB | Meanwhile I'm trying to work on 'tuning' 3.5.13. |
| DexterF | damn. need my email. |
| DexterF | can one bypass that hash mismatch? |
| SlavekB | There is a http proxy on the way? |
| DexterF | not that I know... |
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| DexterF | heyyyy.... the kmail from oneiric is still there for reasons beyond me, and to my surprise: it even works |
| DexterF | what's new |
| SlavekB | Who knows - after I finish preparing updates for 3.5.13, so maybe I'll devote to preparation 3.5.13.1 for Precise. ;) |
| DexterF | well, at least this is a position in which I can wait |
| DexterF | if you need beta testers give me a holler |
| DexterF | but for now gotta run. |
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| cpatrick08_ | i was updating TDE Nightly build ppa and builddeps ppa and get following error message for 32 and 64 bit W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-security/Release Unable to find expected entry 'unuiverse/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 980 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=980 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kvirc package is unusable |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 994 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=994 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [kopete] now listen plugin works poorly |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 994 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Hey. Finally, I reported the bug, which I have corrected a long time ago, but the patch I have long time kept to themselves :) |
| MutantTurkey | whicho ne? |
| SlavekB | bug #994 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=994 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, [kopete] now listen plugin works poorly |
| SlavekB | I have incorporated the patch in my PPA from the very beginning, but I have not reported an bug. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 845 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=845 major, P5, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, xine-artsplugin FTBFS with newer xine API |
| MutantTurkey | \ah |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 995 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=995 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Session restore is quirky |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 503 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=503 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, kmix wont autostart |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 503 from CONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=503 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kmix wont autostart |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 986 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=986 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Forces HAL backend to honor HAL mount options |
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| Borg^Queen | anyone home? |
| Borg^Queen | I have a question about kde servicemenus |
| Borg^Queen | hmm |
| Borg^Queen | ok how do I get a kservicmenu to use a /home/foo/icons dir? |
| Borg^Queen | something like ~home/icons ? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 996 filed by john@wexfordpress.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=996 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, At lower resolutions (800x600) can't roam over larger virtual window. |
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| Khyota | Throwing this in here, Fedora repo metadata has an invalid checkum. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 997 filed by john@wexfordpress.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=997 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, resize needs pan parameter. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 998 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=998 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kcmautostart: Clicking "Reset" with a properties dialog open inserts duplicate entries in the list |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 987 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=987 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, KNotes not remember open notes |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 991 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=991 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kvirc 3.5.13 FTBFS : missing linker flags |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 987 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=987 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, KNotes not remember open notes |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 999 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=999 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: pykdeextensions contains hardcoded path for debian/ubuntu |
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| msb_ | Hi! Anybody home? |
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| msb_ | Question regarding TDE for Ubuntu 11.10: What sort of feedback have you gotten from people who installed it? |
| MutantTurkey | 11.10 |
| MutantTurkey | is that oneriec? |
| MutantTurkey | msb_: because i'm running Oneiric quite well and it works especially well with SlavekB's repository |
| kari__ | I think it is indeed |
| MutantTurkey | then I am using it without a problem. |
| kari__ | Ok thanks. |
| msb_ | Great! Is this a different download than the one on the main download page? |
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| MutantTurkey | msb_: yes |
| MutantTurkey | it includes patches and such |
| MutantTurkey | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis?field.series_filter=oneiric |
| MutantTurkey | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu oneiric main |
| MutantTurkey | deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu oneiric main |
| MutantTurkey | I have that in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| kari__ | I will have a look now |
| MutantTurkey | it's quite good |
| kari__ | I have different sources - I will try to fix that. |
| msb_ | Does the original 3.5.13 have problems with the panel and taskbar disappearing? |
| schreiberstein | hi everyone! |
| msb_ | Hi! |
| schreiberstein | Does trinity work on ubuntu 12.04 yet? and what about debian wheezy? |
| msb_ | MutantTurkey: Does the original 3.5.13 for 11.10 have problems with the panel and taskbar disappearing? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't think i've ever had that problem sorry |
| MutantTurkey | so I couldn't say |
| msb_ | Thanks! |
| msb_ | MutantTurkey: Maybe the fixed package should replace the old one? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | they do |
| kari__ | Doing upgrade - will see whether it works after that. Thanks |
| MutantTurkey | yep hopefully it does |
| kari__ | I must say I am running it in the virtual machine under VMWare - so it is not authentic machine. |
| MutantTurkey | that could cause problems |
| MutantTurkey | things never seem to work quite right in a VM.... |
| kari__ | Yep ........... |
| msb_ | MutantTurkey: I meant maybe the commands on page http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#ubuntu should be changed to the slavek-banko packages, so that random people accessing the trinity website would get the best available. |
| MutantTurkey | yes yes well. |
| MutantTurkey | they are "unofficial" |
| MutantTurkey | though we are hopefully releasing "3.5.13.1" a SRU |
| MutantTurkey | so if that is the case we will then update those |
| msb_ | Also, instructions should include doing "sudo passwd" as told here: http://www.howtogeek.com/106840/how-to-install-trinity-on-ubuntu-relive-kde-3/ |
| MutantTurkey | sudo isn't auto setup? |
| MutantTurkey | another question - is there a way to "disable' kdm themes? |
| MutantTurkey | I would like just a regular dialog box... |
| kari__ | Well Ubuntu installs it and Trinity wants to replace it. To get working Trinity installation I had to give command sudo passwd , after which it asked me for some password. I don'tt have faintest idea why I had to do that. |
| MutantTurkey | i have no idea whatsoever |
| kari__ | I don't use Ubuntu much.....I am using OpenSUSE with KDE3 - works much better than KDE4 |
| msb_ | People reporting kubuntu 12.04 is using all their cpu cores! Some super database program called virtuoso. KDE4 strikes again! |
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| MutantTurkey | yes that is vituoso for you |
| MutantTurkey | indexers always kill your cpu |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 999 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=999 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: pykdeextensions contains hardcoded path for debian/ubuntu |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1000 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1000 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Tools/Html Settings/Cookies indicator always shows "off" |
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| unkn-error | hello |
| unkn-error | which is the latest pkg from nightly? |
| unkn-error | this one: |
| unkn-error | adept-trinity - 4:14.0.0-0ubuntu7+r73+pr11~precise |
| unkn-error | or |
| unkn-error | this one: |
| unkn-error | bakus-trinity - 4:14.0.0-0ubuntu7+r65+pr10~precise |
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| MutantTurkey | heyoh |
| schreiberstein | Hi MutantTurkey ! |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| schreiberstein | How are you? :-) |
| MutantTurkey | meh |
| schreiberstein | cya |
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| SlavekB | MutatntTurkey: Hey. I was busy updating the Debian to 6.0.5... |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 906 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=906 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdesktop_lock contains irritating bugs |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 136 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=136 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Karmic kde3 desktop i386 live CD problems |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 856 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=856 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Provide CD images for Ubuntu |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 902 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=902 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdegraphics/ksnapshot/CMakeLists.txt -> libXext must be explicity linked (gcc >= 4.6.2) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 941 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=941 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kmymoney: FTBFS when using --enable-pdf-doc |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 293 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=293 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kde-config Incorrectly Creates a Profile Folder in the System root directory |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 411 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=411 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kdelibs4c2a-trinity "provides" missing to kdelibs4c2a |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 414 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=414 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, konqueror: context menu on (mounted) device missing |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 415 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=415 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, amarok crashes on switching songs (score script) |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 578 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=578 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, media:/ doesn't show files, remounts unit |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 589 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=589 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Error - 'package trinity-desktop not found' |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 590 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=590 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkdevdesignerpart.so: undefined symbol |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 628 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=628 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Qt3 information about licensing is confusing |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 634 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=634 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, CDs not correctly recognized by TDE |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 651 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=651 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, In Trinity konqueror 4 crashes at startup |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 652 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=652 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: kdelibs FTBFS in a symlink directory: CMake Error Cannot find source file |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 605 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=605 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Trinity QT3 breaks KDE4's k3b |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 114 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=114 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Removeng kdelibs4c2a-kde3 leads to removal of all Qt3 applications. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 115 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=115 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdelibs-data-kde3 conflicts with kdelibs-data in Jaunty |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 152 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=152 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Gnome apps are not added to the KDE Menu |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 153 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=153 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, profile and icon problems with kde4 programs |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 809 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=809 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, no ssl in kmail or konqueror |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: how often do you push total rebuilds? when kdelibs changes? |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: When I prepare a comprehensive update. |
| MutantTurkey | ok thanks |
| MutantTurkey | it's always a large download so I just wanted to check |
| SlavekB | Build only package, to which I add patches. |
| SlavekB | The current update is the result of a merger with François patches. |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | is that going to be an official release? 3.5.13.1? |
| SlavekB | Do I have to send an announcement ... :) |
| SlavekB | It seems that this update would already have been designated as the final - 3.5.13.1. |
| SlavekB | By the way, I even updated it to version string ;) |
| SlavekB | But it still bothers me a lot: |
| SlavekB | (qt3) krdc crashes - bug 812, commits 1f39650, 1db4f237 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
| MutantTurkey | but will there be an announcement, and update |
| MutantTurkey | home page updates? |
| MutantTurkey | like "official" |
| SlavekB | My announcement will only about the current status of updates. |
| SlavekB | Move and release as an official update is job for Tim. :) |
| SlavekB | PPA is now properly crammed: |
| SlavekB | 16.5 GiB (100.00%) of 16.0 GiB |
| MutantTurkey | does tim intend to do that? |
| SlavekB | Do we have to agree. He waited until users confirm that the packages are stable. |
| SlavekB | In addition, we spake, how to prepare the source packages (git branch). |
| SlavekB | I'll try to ask him if I could get account to GIT. |
| MutantTurkey | git branch is not to hard |
| MutantTurkey | make a branch at 3.5.13 |
| MutantTurkey | merge commits |
| MutantTurkey | at the 3.5.13 tag i mean |
| SlavekB | I was studying ProGIT :) |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| SlavekB | I have it downloaded in my PocketBook :) |
| MutantTurkey | good |
| SlavekB | Could you help me with bug 812? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
| MutantTurkey | seyes |
| MutantTurkey | krdc |
| SlavekB | When I incorporate commit 1f39650, fell to almost everything. |
| MutantTurkey | link to commit? |
| MutantTurkey | what code did that commit effect? |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/1327349392:1f3965029290616c894f2d5e668ddfbd5795d6a0.diff |
| SlavekB | Commit for QT3. |
| SlavekB | A very small change, but rather fatal. |
| SlavekB | After adding the commit 1db4f237 it falls less. |
| MutantTurkey | does it break the api?\ |
| SlavekB | See backtraces in the bug log. |
| MutantTurkey | those are not for krdc? |
| SlavekB | No, the API is changed in future commit. |
| SlavekB | http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812#c5 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 812: enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
| SlavekB | The QT4 call XInitThreads also added, but conditioned the application configuration. |
| MutantTurkey | what was the purpose of the patch? |
| SlavekB | see comments in |
| SlavekB | https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-200?focusedCommentId=124006&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| SlavekB | KRDC crash and potentially other programs which can be a problem with threads. |
| MutantTurkey | wait what is crashing |
| MutantTurkey | those are kcrash logs for kicker? |
| SlavekB | kdesktop, kicker, konqueror... |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | none for krdc? |
| SlavekB | These crashes are after including mentioned commits. |
| SlavekB | krdc crashs are in bug log |
| MutantTurkey | sorry I am trying to multitask to much :-) |
| SlavekB | I know it :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1001 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1001 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, SmoothScroll always off |
| tbottu | 10rom_as@oscada.org changed the Status on bug 1001 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: i am now doing an internship full time so I am quite busy |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I'll just wait |
| MutantTurkey | heh |
| MutantTurkey | sorry |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: By the way, I hope it will be possible - I have the minimum TDE 3.5.13.1 (kdelibs and kdebase) running on Precise ;) |
| MutantTurkey | awesome! |
| MutantTurkey | what problems are you running into |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| SlavekB | it went quite smoothly :) |
| MutantTurkey | wow awesome |
| SlavekB | minimal changes in dependencies, update hal-trinity based on version from Precise |
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| SlavekB | Interestingly, I have not notice crashes - I have qt3 with the patches for bug 812. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
| MutantTurkey | can you reproduce it |
| MutantTurkey | maybe it was an X11 bug that got resolved? |
| SlavekB | That would be annoying. |
| SlavekB | Giving to Trinity with updating Xorg does not sound like a good idea ;) |
| SlavekB | In Precise: xserver-xorg (1:7.6+12ubuntu1) |
| SlavekB | In Squeeze(+backports): xserver-xorg (1:7.6+8~bpo60+1) |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| MutantTurkey | well |
| SlavekB | The difference was in the compilation - Squeeze is compiled with the original QT3 (trinity 3.5.13 version no patches for 812), Precise is compiled with the patched QT3. |
| SlavekB | And one more! |
| SlavekB | To squeeze was compiled with: libxxf86misc-dev |
| SlavekB | For Precise I removed this dependency |
| MutantTurkey | well then the difference is 812 no? |
| SlavekB | Yes, that is the difference in QT |
| SlavekB | libxxf86misc-dev is difference for kdebase. |
| MutantTurkey | have you heard of the scientific method? |
| MutantTurkey | you can only change 1 variable at a time to determine what the problem is |
| SlavekB | Well - now I tried to solve but not 812, but porting to Precise ;) |
| SlavekB | Observations on the influence of 812 is a side effect;) |
| MutantTurkey | I see |
| SlavekB | Ha, actually, one other difference - in QT on Precise I removed libjpeg and had to use the system version. |
| SlavekB | It seems that I have taken many steps for further research on the squeeze. :) |
| SlavekB | Solving the 812 would be of great benefit to me - I use krdc often. |
| MutantTurkey | wait what? |
| MutantTurkey | isn't Qt's built in libjpeg gone now? |
| SlavekB | commit 4e067439 |
| SlavekB | [qt3] Remove completely obsolete libjpeg directory |
| SlavekB | When compiling on Precise I included it commit. |
| SlavekB | I have to go ... I'm still at work and here is now 22 hours :( |
| SlavekB | (10 pm ;) ) |
| SlavekB | ... continuing later ... :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1002 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1002 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [klipper] Basic actions are empty |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1002 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 854 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=854 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdesdk: undefined symbol errors |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 821 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=821 major, P1, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, Enabled users to manually re-sort Documents widget in Kate |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 293 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=293 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Kde-config Incorrectly Creates a Profile Folder in the System root directory |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1001 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1001 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, SmoothScroll always off |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 293 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=293 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kde-config Incorrectly Creates a Profile Folder in the System root directory |
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| MobileTurkey | @seen kb9vqf |
| MobileTurkey | !seen kb9vqf |
| tbottu | MobileTurkey: kb9vqf was last seen in #trinity-desktop 26 weeks, 6 days, 11 hours, 35 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <kb9vqf> bad design on KDE4's part unfortunately |
| SlavekB | MobileTurkey: I have some knowledge from testing bug 812. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
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| SlavekB | MobileTurkey: Programs crash only if they are running through kdeinit. |
| SlavekB | MobileTurkey: For example - Konquror can not run from the T Menu, but it can run from the konsole. |
| SlavekB | MobileTurkey: Crash follows after QXIMInputContext::init_xim. |
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| MobileTurkey | SlavekB: did you add that information to the tracker? |
| MobileTurkey | i wonder what kdeinit does differently? |
| MobileTurkey | sets some environmental variable or setting? |
| SlavekB | Not yet - I still continuing research :) |
| SlavekB | It is about that kdeinit starts XInitThreads once and applications once again. |
| SlavekB | ...I think. |
| MobileTurkey | hmmm |
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| SlavekB | MobileTurkey: The first result of research - I am a backport to Squeeze libX11 1.4.4 and crashes are stopped. |
| MobileTurkey | what has changed between the backport and current? |
| MobileTurkey | that is the problem then |
| SlavekB | Current is 1.3.3, backported is 1.4.4. |
| SlavekB | There are more changes... |
| SlavekB | I will further research ... :) |
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| SlavekB | The second result of research: libX11 1.3.6 (latest in a series 1.3.x) works. And does not require more changes in the system. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 922 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 293 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=293 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Kde-config Incorrectly Creates a Profile Folder in the System root directory |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 922 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 922 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 922 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Today I all day on my machine to test the updated libx11 and I am very happy. |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: good |
| MutantTurkey | so it was an X11 bug/ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| SlavekB | Probably a combination of having XInitThreads calling repeatedly. |
| SlavekB | But the updated libx11 eliminates the problem. |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | well that is good then! |
| SlavekB | But Tim suggests let's broken :( |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| SlavekB | See the comments in bug 812 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
| SlavekB | Meanwhile, I have successfully prepared for updating libx11 on Squeeze, Maverick and Lucid. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| SlavekB | It is good that the update is not invasive. |
| MutantTurkey | I agree with Tim though, nothing we can do about this |
| MutantTurkey | it is up to distros to fix their own packages |
| MutantTurkey | i recommend just reporting upstream |
| SlavekB | The Lucid I must update xutils-dev, bug nothing more. |
| SlavekB | If it is unavoidable, I will try to find out just specific patch to update the very smallest, but it seems to me better to keep one version for all three distributions. |
| MutantTurkey | upstream is where all bugs fixes should go |
| SlavekB | Let's broken would mean that there is no stable version of the Trinity for stable version of Debian. :( |
| MutantTurkey | then tell upstream!! |
| MutantTurkey | report the bug to debian with solution |
| MutantTurkey | they will patch |
| MutantTurkey | you can't keep all the fixes |
| MutantTurkey | they belong upstream |
| SlavekB | But to include patch to Maverick is probably not possible. |
| MutantTurkey | who uses maverick I ask you? |
| SlavekB | I do not know - just compiling packages for him :) |
| MutantTurkey | just report it on the ubuntu website |
| MutantTurkey | or email them |
| MutantTurkey | i recommend |
| SlavekB | I find it quicker to incorporate corrected packages to Trinity repository, than wait for upstream. |
| MutantTurkey | did you report to upstream though? |
| MutantTurkey | they might not even know about the bug |
| SlavekB | No, I'm still not upstream contacted. |
| SlavekB | I would probably prepare a minimum patch for each version - not (easier) upgrade to 1.3.6. :( |
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| SlavekB | I hoped that when in the build-deps are already a number of updated packages, that we could add libx11 update. |
| SlavekB | After all, integration into upstream I see as more ambitious solution. |
| MutantTurkey | i thin kit would be good to both i dunno |
| SlavekB | Yes, I would be for both - include into the trinity source and report to upstream. |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| SlavekB | It seems inevitable to reveal a specific patch. :( |
| SlavekB | Another solution would be to fix the Trinity, to avoid multiple running XInitThreads ;) |
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| SlavekB | ...maybe. |
| MutantTurkey | so who is broken |
| MutantTurkey | TDE or X? |
| SlavekB | I can not decide. |
| SlavekB | It seems to be bad when XInitThreads called repeatedly. |
| SlavekB | But XInitThreads should itself deal with when it happens. |
| SlavekB | It does not seem that it would be to verify whether or not run - and it probably is not correct. |
| SlavekB | Therefore, I find the correct repair libx11. |
| SlavekB | By the way, except that I will try to incorporate patch for bug 922. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
| SlavekB | Workaround is a good, but the fix would be better :) |
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| ruli | hey guys. so i just found out about this a day or so ago... i have a question about this fork. why KDE3? |
| ruli | also is this related to razer qt? |
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| Space_Man | razor-qt uses qt4 |
| Space_Man | kde3 uses qt3 and is better than kde4/qt4 |
| * Space_Man is very simplistic | |
| ruli | heh ok i'm definitely willing to listen on this. is it also that qt3 is better than qt4? or if kde3 was made qt4, you would use qt4 as well? |
| ruli | i get the simplistic notion of it. that part i get |
| ruli | i'm wondering about this qt3/qt4 thing because i was thinking about this.. |
| ruli | have you guys heard of Cinnamon? |
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| schreiberstein | Hi! |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: hi |
| P-Chan | :) |
| schreiberstein | :-) |
| schreiberstein | i'd like to try out trinity again. does it work on precise yet? |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: are you a developer? |
| schreiberstein | unfortunately not :-/ |
| schreiberstein | are you? |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: no but I would like but I not have time for it |
| schreiberstein | me neither |
| ruli | have you guys considered forking KDE4 instead? |
| schreiberstein | too much school related things + linux is disattractig me ^^ |
| P-Chan | ruli: why KDE 4? It is very heavy |
| ruli | i don't know. i just wondered about that since i heard about Cinnamon being a fork of gnome shell to bring back gnome 2 |
| ruli | now that i think about it it's probably too heavy for the simple minimalist design you guys have in mind for trinity though! |
| ruli | that nepomuk is crawling into everything these days and akonadi is a hard dependency. soon nepomuk will be too |
| P-Chan | ruli: I have 3 machines. Even if I had a core i7, I would not use heavy interface that uses 3D acceleration. |
| P-Chan | i AM DUAL BOOT |
| schreiberstein | don't forget mysql being a dependency of kde4 ^^ |
| ruli | ahh forgot about 3d accel too! |
| ruli | yep. mysql is for nepomuk right? |
| schreiberstein | akonadi afaik |
| ruli | kde4 is a wild deparature for kde3. way too wild |
| schreiberstein | for storing contacts, emails, attachments |
| ruli | schreiberstein: ah that sounds right |
| ruli | every time i load kmail i'm afraid it's going to delete everything cause trying to get things imported screwed everything up |
| ruli | then nepomuk randomly works and doesn't work. and never tells you |
| ruli | then they transitioned a virtuoso version and all the data i had in nepomuk just vanished. they had a tool to convert the data but all it did was corrupt the database |
| ruli | i'm sort of getting tired of kde4 |
| schreiberstein | i've used kde4 a few weeks ago for a couple of weeks or so. but i don't like it. it just feels crappy in my opinion. and kmail is a pita, indeed. |
| P-Chan | ruli: I have windows and linux installed in my Pentium D. See for example my windows 7 http://s14.postimage.org/ybpe14fsx/Windows.jpg |
| P-Chan | without eyecandy |
| P-Chan | with out 3d effects |
| ruli | every time i start plasma-desktop, like 10 new activities with no names invent themselves and i have to go and delete them all each and every time. and activities is like a half finished product by itself! |
| ruli | P-Chan: heh i didnt know you could make 7 look like that |
| schreiberstein | P-Chan: yay! Windows 7 loader FTW! ^^ |
| ruli | yeah so i drew interest in this trinity but only question i had at first was why qt3 instead of qt4 haah |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: how do you know |
| P-Chan | ? |
| schreiberstein | on your desktop : "W7Loader_.." |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: oh my god |
| P-Chan | xD |
| schreiberstein | :DD lol |
| schreiberstein | i'm using windows 7 too (only for playing games) and i made it look vista-ish (a lot better imo.) + i added the classic start menu http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/ |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: Is it secure |
| P-Chan | ? |
| schreiberstein | classic shell? it's opensource ;-) |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: ok |
| schreiberstein | i've used it since windows 7 came out. it's awesome |
| schreiberstein | you'll just have to change the theme and then it's like windows xp :) |
| P-Chan | Cool |
| schreiberstein | ruli: so why not simply try out trinity? |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: I used SuRun in Windows XP. Now I use Trinity in my live USB |
| ruli | schreiberstein: i did in a virtual machine. it looked exactly like kde3. i was slightly disappointed |
| P-Chan | Surun is opensource too |
| schreiberstein | P-Chan: cool |
| schreiberstein | ruli: why? don'T you like kde3? |
| P-Chan | ruli: Use live USB STICK |
| P-Chan | i tested exelinux. exelinux is debian based with KDE 3 |
| P-Chan | with trinity KDE 3 |
| ruli | schreiberstein: well if kde3 had all the nice artwork and themes and people were still making good ones for it. i mean i want a relatively minimal desktop. but i dont want it looking like ass |
| ruli | :) |
| ruli | P-Chan: maybe i'll try that |
| schreiberstein | ruli: i love fancy artwork too |
| schreiberstein | but i was really much satisfied with trinity + compiz |
| schreiberstein | + nice wallpaper |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: I very hard install window decoration in KDE3/Trinity |
| P-Chan | in gnome2/mate is more easy |
| ruli | if you guys went all out and made like a version similar to the mint guys did with ubuntu total custom interface looking suave and fresh, then maybe you'll be on to something haha |
| P-Chan | the developers must change it |
| schreiberstein | there aren't that much kde3 decorations out there :-/ |
| ruli | mint's is home grown |
| P-Chan | I liked E17 but i hate compile, i hate terminal |
| schreiberstein | the kde3 plastique look is nice |
| P-Chan | i hate apt-get and yum |
| schreiberstein | P-Chan: why? |
| ruli | that reminds me i need to try razer next |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: beacause I hate advanced things and remember commands |
| P-Chan | now I use software center, synaptic, deepin software center |
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| schreiberstein | well.. i love the terminal :) |
| schreiberstein | even if i haven't learned anything about scripting yet :-/ |
| schreiberstein | P-Chan: wow! surun is awesome! it would have been useful a few years ago.. the time when i used windows |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: my old pc uses windows XP beacause Windows 7, Ubuntu is very heacy |
| P-Chan | very heavy |
| P-Chan | I use sunrun in XP |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=surun&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CGMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dedoimedo.com%2Fcomputers%2Fsurun.html&ei=IS24T8ejDIm69QS5s4TQCA&usg=AFQjCNHyDmXdpFUPgSwI-_O3h4gNUt40Cg |
| schreiberstein | atm. i use ubuntu (+unity .. .OMG! I'm mainstream :-/) on my main pc. i used mac os x before. i love os x. |
| schreiberstein | P-Chan: cool. i'm old school -> always using admin rights |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: i use xubuntu but in my live USB STICK i use trinity |
| schreiberstein | nice |
| schreiberstein | i don't know what i'll do next.. maybe i'll just wait for mac os x mountain lion, which is supposed to be released this summer.. |
| schreiberstein | or i'll try out trinity again.. |
| schreiberstein | or i'll ditch these new fancy os's and go back to.. hmm.. dunno |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: classic shell supports windows 8 consume preview |
| P-Chan | these programers are very faster |
| P-Chan | envy |
| schreiberstein | cool |
| schreiberstein | i don't like windows 8. |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: I don't like windows but i need play games, photoshop and text aloud for example |
| ruli | windows 8. good god what a travesty D: |
| P-Chan | and orca is sux |
| P-Chan | ruli: And nokia not supports linux in nokia pc suit |
| P-Chan | ruli: Nokia only wants money |
| ruli | P-Chan: what do you mean? |
| P-Chan | :( |
| ruli | this is interesting i have not heard this..? |
| P-Chan | ruli: I can't use Nokia 6111 in linux. |
| ruli | ohh. damn |
| schreiberstein | playing games + old 16 apps are the only things i do with windows.. which was supposed to be my main operating system 'till 2009 |
| P-Chan | ruli: Nokia 6111 only works as modem in linux |
| ruli | nokia is nokia.. :/ just hope they dont mess with qt |
| P-Chan | I can't see documents in my mobile phone with linux |
| ruli | has nokia ever supported linux? |
| P-Chan | ruli: Wine not works well Nokia PC Suit |
| ruli | well nokia blows |
| P-Chan | ruli: lobbysts |
| ruli | haha |
| P-Chan | ruli: its serious |
| ruli | i know. that's why i'm laughing. sad sad world |
| ruli | thats all you can do man |
| schreiberstein | my previous phone was a nokia 1100 :-) |
| P-Chan | ruli: rectos must kill |
| P-Chan | reactos can run windows drivers and programs |
| schreiberstein | battery lasted very long :-) |
| P-Chan | ruli: And linux has few programs. for example Gimp is only real alternative in the opensource world |
| ruli | yeah and gimp sucks balls |
| P-Chan | and other systems has various programs and open source programas too |
| ruli | P-Chan: but you should stop buying nokia crap and buy an open phone if they exist |
| ruli | that's the only way to stop it |
| ruli | market forces |
| P-Chan | ruli: anonymus and crackers I will resolve it |
| ruli | true! :0 |
| ruli | :) |
| ruli | anyway gotta go |
| P-Chan | ruli: In Italian Ubuntu forum has a project |
| P-Chan | Open Source alternative to Nokia PC suite |
| P-Chan | But it still alpha |
| P-Chan | Don't buy from at&T. Don't but from Nokia |
| P-Chan | buy |
| schreiberstein | BUY FROM APPLE! |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: Apple is evil |
| P-Chan | The Aqua is closed source |
| P-Chan | some things in MACOSX is open source |
| schreiberstein | yes. but it works.. it's (most of the time) working lke a charme |
| schreiberstein | i know |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: charme sux. Mac OSX needs off board video card to run desktop environment |
| schreiberstein | i don'T understand what you say |
| schreiberstein | off board video card? |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: yes. Minimum requeriments. ATI off board card |
| P-Chan | schreiberstein: Apple = Eyecandy |
| schreiberstein | you can run os x on a vesa gpu too |
| schreiberstein | (without acceleration) |
| P-Chan | I like create eyecandy in photoshop but I hate use |
| schreiberstein | mac os x isn't that heavy |
| P-Chan | I use blender, Maya, 3D studio, Photoshop and my desktop is ugly a lot |
| schreiberstein | on the hackintosh side, you can use integrated intel gpu's too |
| P-Chan | MATE, TRINITY, XFCE and Windows Classic |
| P-Chan | I only use 3D aceleration in blender |
| schreiberstein | P-Chan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq2enQYTrbU&list=UUE_M8A5yxnLfW0KghEeajjw&index=6&feature=plcp |
| schreiberstein | it's awesome |
| P-Chan | ok I will see |
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| schreiberstein | huh?! |
| schreiberstein | good night! |
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| MutantTurkey | alls well eh? SlavekB |
| SlavekB | Just I try another patch to kdebase ... (fix for bug 922) |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
| SlavekB | And then I'm going next test due to an bug 812 :) |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
| SlavekB | But now I will be away for several hours. |
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| MutantTurkey | so bored |
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| SlavekB | Voila - it probably works! |
| SlavekB | We'll have to check that on my test machine did not remain some of the earlier patches, but it looks promising! |
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| SlavekB | I can confirm - I have it - final solution for bug 812! |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
| MutantTurkey | I wish I had your attitude and motivation :-P |
| MutantTurkey | I am lazy |
| MutantTurkey | what time i have to relax on weekends is sleeping mostly |
| SlavekB | :) |
| MutantTurkey | I want to add a daemon feature to konsole |
| MutantTurkey | so that only one konsole process would ever run |
| SlavekB | After a while I have written "story" in the bugzilla message ... |
| MutantTurkey | and then instead of opening a new process on konsole launch it would just pen a new window |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 812 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 enhancement, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
| SlavekB | It was long and arduous, but the result is worth it :) |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| MutantTurkey | good work!!! |
| SlavekB | Perhaps it soon pushed into git. Then I will compile new packages kdelibs in my ppa. |
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| SlavekB | Tim's solution for bug 922 also looks good - I just tested it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
| SlavekB | I have a good feeling - they were the last two major bugs that I wanted to be fixed in 3.5.13.1. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1003 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1003 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, screen lock fails when computer is suspended |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 812 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 blocker, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 812 from RESOLVED FIXED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 blocker, P1, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
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| MutantTurkey | tbottu: is back :-) |
| tbottu | MutantTurkey: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 503 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=503 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, kmix wont autostart |
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| rsmith | Can I get some help installing trinity here? |
| rsmith | hello? |
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| rsmith | nevermind |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: It looks like the build-farm does not work :( |
| MutantTurkey | what OBS? |
| SlavekB | I am uploading an update kdelibs, but is still unanswered. |
| MutantTurkey | huh |
| SlavekB | And https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/ is unreachable |
| MutantTurkey | hmmmm |
| MutantTurkey | why are you telling me this? |
| MutantTurkey | tell tim :-) |
| SlavekB | :) |
| SlavekB | I just lamented. ;) |
| SlavekB | Voila - and now runs :) |
| SlavekB | So you see, it helped ;) |
| MutantTurkey | hah |
| MutantTurkey | see how that is |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 922 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
| MutantTurkey | i fucking hate jquery |
| MutantTurkey | it just fucking sucks |
| MutantTurkey | i hate javascript |
| MutantTurkey | i don't get it |
| MutantTurkey | i just want to program in C :[ |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 987 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=987 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, REOPENED, KNotes not remember open notes |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1005 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1005 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, DrKonqi fails to create backtraces |
| MutantTurkey | isn't that a distro bug |
| MutantTurkey | ubuntu disabled the ability to get backtraces for 'security purposes' |
| SlavekB | I do not know - I only use debian :) |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| SlavekB | Incidentally, after kdelibs and kdebase I successfully compiled for the Precise also kdeutils. |
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| SlavekB | I have to go |
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| KyoMetal | alguien? |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 987 from REOPENED to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=987 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEW, KNotes not remember open notes |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 987 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| MobileTurkey | goodmorning folks! |
| MobileTurkey | Space_Man: though I did not realize his requirements were still high |
| MobileTurkey | it still stands that his connection is not great |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 812 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 blocker, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
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| MutantTurkey | http://ryanbreen.bandcamp.com |
| MutantTurkey | a friend |
| SlavekB | I have to go |
| SlavekB | see you |
| MutantTurkey | see you |
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| rzs19 | hey calvin :) |
| MutantTurkey | hey rzs19 |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| rzs19 | i was... busy for some time. |
| rzs19 | everything right with you? :) |
| rzs19 | nay new news for my, something i missed? |
| rzs19 | any* |
| rzs19 | *poke you* |
| MutantTurkey | i am busy busy busy |
| MutantTurkey | school |
| rzs19 | i'm busy, i'm using busybooox :D |
| MutantTurkey | busybox++ |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 987 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=987 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, KNotes not remember open notes |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1002 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1002 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: [klipper] Basic actions are empty |
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| DexterF | evening |
| DexterF | I STILL get tons of 404 errors trying to install nightly builds on 12.04 |
| DexterF | is there maybe another mirror? |
| DexterF | maybe in europe? |
| MutantTurkey | DexterF: just saw your email |
| MutantTurkey | DexterF: I don't know about 12.04 isn't that still beta? |
| DexterF | MutantTurkey: released a month ago |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| MutantTurkey | for trinity |
| MutantTurkey | just because ubuntu decides to change every fucking thing every month doesn't mean we have the time to keep up with their nonsense 6 month cycle |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | Trinity has to dedicate many man hours every 6 months to deal with ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | rather annoying |
| SlavekB | I have to go |
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| zcram | I wish the ShuttleOS would finally ignite and fly away. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1006 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1006 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, XRandR-aware programs crash on screen event |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1006 from NEW to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
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| Fresh_meat2 | Hi everybody |
| rzs19 | hello |
| Fresh_meat2 | I have watched the project for some time ago |
| Fresh_meat2 | and I was wondering how it is going |
| Fresh_meat2 | since I am less and less pleased with kde4 |
| rzs19 | what a suprise ;D |
| Fresh_meat2 | I am strongly thinking to switch back |
| rzs19 | tde is alive, it seems that the prepare an update of 3.5.13. |
| Fresh_meat2 | but hal is a bitch to compile nowaday |
| rzs19 | which distribution do you use? |
| Fresh_meat2 | archlinux |
| rzs19 | hm, i think calvin is maintaning the archlinux pakages, but maybe i'm wrong. |
| Fresh_meat2 | but I am stuck to kubuntu for now thanks to my radeon 6970 |
| Fresh_meat2 | ok |
| Fresh_meat2 | I would like to give a hand too |
| rzs19 | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity maybe that helps you? |
| rzs19 | there are also pakages for ubuntu. |
| rzs19 | i'm using debian and it isworking :) |
| rzs19 | i have a session running on a debian squeeze, the hardware is a amd geode 500lx with 512 ram and it runs perfectly :) |
| rzs19 | or 800lx, whatever. |
| Fresh_meat2 | nice |
| rzs19 | running for months. |
| Fresh_meat2 | back to that times I was using KDE 3.3 on a PII 350 |
| rzs19 | some ppl isntalled kde 3.5 on a nokia 770 and n810. |
| Fresh_meat2 | and what is your geode board ? I am quite curious |
| rzs19 | i don't know, its a fsc furto a240 with 512 mb ram. |
| rzs19 | it wassoemthing arround 20-30Euro |
| rzs19 | runs inside a NX Session |
| Fresh_meat2 | ok |
| Fresh_meat2 | well anyway I am looking to improuve my small C++ skills |
| Fresh_meat2 | so if you want someone to help you a bit |
| Fresh_meat2 | I can do stuff from time to time |
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| SlavekB | I just prepare next (hopefully last) update for kdebase. And right now I need tbottu... |
| MutantTurkey | for what? |
| SlavekB | For download packages from my ppa for compilation in my lab. |
| SlavekB | With the departure tbottu usually becomes inaccessible Trinity servers. |
| SlavekB | Or you wonder why next update? |
| MutantTurkey | oh yeah |
| MutantTurkey | good point |
| rzs19 | it seemsthere is a bug in kmail, in the systray icon, it counts the mails wrong. |
| SlavekB | In kdebase I add a "couple" of patches: |
| SlavekB | * commit c5ad26a7, closes bug 906 |
| SlavekB | Fix kdesktop_lock screensaver engaging in corner case |
| SlavekB | * commit b45b4bd7, closes bug 1001 |
| SlavekB | Fix KHTML smooth scrolling control center option |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=906 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdesktop_lock contains irritating bugs |
| SlavekB | * commit d2f8fca9, closes bug 922 |
| SlavekB | Fix fancy logout not allowing interaction with save dialogs |
| SlavekB | Fix desktop wallpaper export failing when triggered by krootbacking or ksmserver and konsole or kdesktop_lock not previously loaded |
| SlavekB | * commit 193d9afc, closes bug 1003 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1001 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, SmoothScroll always off |
| SlavekB | Fix desktop lock not engaging on suspend |
| SlavekB | * commit c281f8a5, closes bug 1002 |
| SlavekB | Fix klipper/cmake to install correct klipperrc with global actions |
| SlavekB | * commit de4e7b41 |
| SlavekB | Make absolutely sure that kdesktop_lock reads recently changed configuration files when starting up |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1003 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, screen lock fails when computer is suspended |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1002 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: [klipper] Basic actions are empty |
| SlavekB | And so I want to test first before I send it to the PPA :) |
| SlavekB | This erroneous counting in KMail tray icon me a few days ago a colleague also pointed. |
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| rzs19 | okay, so you are informed about this? |
| SlavekB | rzs19: Do you have the original 3.5.13 or my ppa? |
| rzs19 | i have your ppa :) |
| rzs19 | i upgraded yesterday |
| rzs19 | i just was suprised that i had 90000 mails :D |
| rzs19 | well, nice work with your repo :) |
| SlavekB | I do not know whether it is regression in my ppa, or whether it was already in original 3.5.13. :( |
| rzs19 | i have three computers upgraded and every machine is running well. |
| rzs19 | i could makea debootstrap and give you feedback? |
| rzs19 | debootstrap, lxc config, xdmcpd enabled and lets test it :) |
| SlavekB | If you can, so it helps me. |
| rzs19 | yep, maybe tomorrow. today i have late shift -.- |
| SlavekB | I am now busy with preparing the update kdebase. |
| rzs19 | keep the good work :) |
| SlavekB | Perhaps it would be enough downgrade kmail to original 3.5.13. |
| SlavekB | I would, if on Monday 28 Tim could give an official update 3.5.13.1. |
| rzs19 | so we have the weekend to testeverything? :) |
| SlavekB | Fortunately, changes are now minimal. |
| SlavekB | So I firmly believe that nothing will go wrong. :) |
| SlavekB | It would be good if I managed to solve it with KMail. |
| Fresh_meat2 | need any help ? |
| SlavekB | Fresh_meat2: You have installed the original 3.5.13? |
| Fresh_meat2 | yes in a vm with centos 6.2 |
| Fresh_meat2 | I am cloning the git too |
| Fresh_meat2 | stupid passphrase ... |
| SlavekB | Try to turn on KMail tray icon and switch between folders containing unread messages. |
| SlavekB | I'm just looking for one suspect code. |
| SlavekB | In commit c94de3af. |
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| Fresh_meat2 | SlavekB : is it just me or the count of unread messages is incessing by itself less one ? |
| SlavekB | Fresh_meat2: When switching between folders with unread messages, the number in the icon tray constantly enlarges also in original 3.5.13? |
| Fresh_meat2 | yes |
| Fresh_meat2 | but |
| Fresh_meat2 | it's not necessary between folders containing unread messages |
| SlavekB | And you have really original 3.5.13? Francois in their packages have also included many patches. |
| Fresh_meat2 | that works when you switch between folders but only one of them need to have unread messages |
| Fresh_meat2 | well I have used the method descride to setup tde for readhat 6.2 |
| Fresh_meat2 | http://trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#redhat that |
| SlavekB | Look at the changelog in your package. |
| SlavekB | I suspect to commit c94de3af, so check whether it is mentioned in the changelog. |
| SlavekB | Hmm, so it definitely got there - I look at the git tde-packaging/redhat/kdepim and there has kdepim-3.5.13-fix_gcc47_compilation.patch. |
| Fresh_meat2 | rpm -q --changelog trinity-desktop |
| Fresh_meat2 | * mer. nov. 30 2011 Francois Andriot <francois.andriot@free.fr> - 3.5.13-3 |
| Fresh_meat2 | - Fix repo files name and content |
| Fresh_meat2 | * sam. nov. 12 2011 Francois Andriot <francois.andriot@free.fr> - 3.5.13-2 |
| Fresh_meat2 | - Add 'repo' package |
| SlavekB | Search in the package kdepim-trinity. |
| Fresh_meat2 | * mer. avril 25 2012 Francois Andriot <francois.andriot@free.fr> - 3.5.13-4 |
| Fresh_meat2 | - Fix compilation with GCC 4.7 [Bug #958] |
| Fresh_meat2 | - Reverse patch from GIT hash 33e649c9. [Bug #406] [Commit #2d5f15c8] |
| Fresh_meat2 | - Fix kmail composer crash [Bug #953] |
| Fresh_meat2 | * dim. nov. 27 2011 Francois Andriot <francois.andriot@free.fr> - 3.5.13-3 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=958 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: gcc 4.7 update causes build failures throughout TDE |
| Fresh_meat2 | - Add missing files '*.la' |
| Fresh_meat2 | * ven. nov. 04 2011 Francois Andriot <francois.andriot@free.fr> - 3.5.13-2 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=406 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] KMail always checks mail after sending |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=953 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kmail composer is crashing, when kmail is used with kontact |
| Fresh_meat2 | - Updates BuildRequires |
| Fresh_meat2 | * dim. oct. 30 2011 Francois Andriot <francois.andriot@free.fr> - 3.5.13-1 |
| Fresh_meat2 | - Initial release for RHEL 6, RHEL 5 and Fedora 15 |
| Fresh_meat2 | * lun. sept. 05 2011 Francois Andriot <francois.andriot@free.fr> - 3.5.12-0 |
| Fresh_meat2 | - Import to GIT |
| SlavekB | Fix compilation with GCC 4.7 - this is the patch to which I suspect. |
| SlavekB | And he was not in the original 3.5.13. |
| Fresh_meat2 | anyway to roll back ? |
| SlavekB | I will try in my lab. |
| SlavekB | I just successfully tested the update kdebase. |
| SlavekB | If the fault will confirmed to commit c94de3af, so it will be a bit comical - kdepim I compiled yesterday, so I just had to give it to compile again. |
| MutantTurkey | who is Freshmeat? |
| MutantTurkey | Hello Fresh_meat2 :-) |
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| SlavekB | Well, let me tell you, looks nice, though there is nothing in Etherpad as CRITICAL REGRESSIONS. :) |
| MutantTurkey | just got accepted to my university of choice :-) |
| MutantTurkey | wohoooooooooo |
| MutantTurkey | wohohoho! |
| Fresh_meat2 | MutantTurkey : hi |
| Fresh_meat2 | Who am I |
| Fresh_meat2 | well |
| Fresh_meat2 | the short story |
| Fresh_meat2 | consider me as a young old fart who has played with kde2 when I was 15 |
| Fresh_meat2 | and has you can immagine, I can't stand kde4 anymore |
| Fresh_meat2 | I am looking to improuve my c++ skills |
| Fresh_meat2 | so I suppose I could write a bit or two of code for tde |
| Fresh_meat2 | congrats for your entrance BTW |
| MutantTurkey | young old far |
| MutantTurkey | writing some code for TDE? sounds good |
| MutantTurkey | I would love to develop more except I busy these days |
| MutantTurkey | Fresh_meat2: any specific areas you are interested in? |
| Fresh_meat2 | well |
| MutantTurkey | just checkout the bug tracker LOL |
| Fresh_meat2 | there is some point I think tde lack |
| Fresh_meat2 | 1st one, IMO the priority is to get ride of hal |
| MutantTurkey | done |
| MutantTurkey | it's done |
| MutantTurkey | basically i think |
| MutantTurkey | Tim has been implementing it |
| Fresh_meat2 | ha good, I have seen some code from the git but I didn't know it was ready for the next release |
| Fresh_meat2 | 2nd : preparing some kind of wayland support |
| Fresh_meat2 | 3rd : hardening the code using cland static analysis, valgind, ... |
| SlavekB | Replacement hal is ready for R14. |
| MutantTurkey | Fresh_meat2: 2 is dumb |
| MutantTurkey | wayland is not stable yet and there will be a perfect X11 wrapper |
| MutantTurkey | plus i like x11... |
| MutantTurkey | I need things like networking |
| MutantTurkey | I've done a lot of reading and i think wayland is longterm the way for it to go |
| MutantTurkey | but stablizing it would be a good idea before we all jump the gun on it |
| Fresh_meat2 | 4th : adding pr0n artwork and fallout 1&2 engine :D |
| MutantTurkey | lulz |
| MutantTurkey | we need some new artwork i think |
| MutantTurkey | window decorations we need something modern but out of the way... |
| MutantTurkey | Fresh_meat2: i think replacing artsd is also an idea |
| Fresh_meat2 | MutantTurkey : I have think about that but I am not sure about what will be a good solution |
| MutantTurkey | pulseaudio |
| SlavekB | alsa directly? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: well possibly |
| Fresh_meat2 | pulseaudio will reach the v2 |
| MutantTurkey | basically right now we depend on arts because all kde programs make calls to the kde sound wrapper |
| MutantTurkey | then that gets passed to artst |
| MutantTurkey | so if it could skip arts and go to alsa... |
| MutantTurkey | i use jackd anyway.. |
| Fresh_meat2 | using alsa will make our BSD friend cry |
| SlavekB | Good point! |
| MutantTurkey | Fresh_meat2: who cares |
| MutantTurkey | you know how they say linux is the 1%? |
| MutantTurkey | BSD is the 1% of 1% of %1 |
| Fresh_meat2 | but since they didn't have a descent graphic stac |
| MutantTurkey | .00001% |
| Fresh_meat2 | well since I know nothing about kde programming neither alsa or pulsaudio, It would be a good starting point to look at |
| MutantTurkey | Fresh_meat2: the pulse audio seems VERY easy |
| MutantTurkey | i mean i looked at the api |
| MutantTurkey | it seems just like opening a stream and writing to it... |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: well, well, i think we should also car for BSD. |
| rzs19 | care* |
| rzs19 | they are more strict than the linux guys. |
| rzs19 | they don'T provide every two months a new solution for a already solved problem. |
| MutantTurkey | no because we uh don't have a usebase there |
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| rzs19 | TDE has a small userbase, so no wonder... |
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| MutantTurkey | thier userbase is already small so with tde it is smaller |
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| SlavekB | rzs19: I can confirm that the problem in KMail really causes commit c94de3af. |
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| rzs19 | SlavekB: good to know, is there already a fix? |
| SlavekB | Not yet - I have to figure out how to fix it and also not to break for gcc 4.7 |
| SlavekB | But I do not have a system with gcc 4.7. |
| rzs19 | debootstrap ;) |
| rzs19 | what is your base system, debian, ubuntu,whatever? |
| SlavekB | debian - stable with backports |
| rzs19 | so make a deboostrap with testing, or sid, to get gcc 4.7(if its there) soyou have a safe environment to test |
| rzs19 | you cold also use lxc(which is per default in the kernel) |
| rzs19 | could* |
| SlavekB | I use KVM virtualization |
| rzs19 | well, would take 10 to 15 minutes to setup? :) |
| rzs19 | KVM has too much overhead |
| SlavekB | But now I do not want to go into testing in unstable. |
| rzs19 | ähm its for the "debootstraped" system, not your running system |
| rzs19 | so oyu can chroot in it, or start a lx-container |
| rzs19 | should be easier than the kvm-beast. |
| rzs19 | if your familar with it |
| SlavekB | I also use pbuilder |
| rzs19 | pbuilder? |
| SlavekB | But before compiling kdepim I had to compile Qt3, kdelibs and all dependencies. |
| SlavekB | Yes - for compiling packages. It also uses the chroot. |
| SlavekB | Before I send packages to compile into PPA, so I compile and test in my lab. |
| SlavekB | With pbuilder I have prepared the environment for compiling i386 / amd64 and etch / lenny / squeeze / sid / maverick / natty / oneiric / precise. |
| SlavekB | But as I said - I've got other things to do than compile the TDE core packages for the SID. :) |
| rzs19 | ooh, okay i understand :) |
| rzs19 | so, i need to go home. |
| SlavekB | Hmm, well I should go ... |
| SlavekB | But before I finish repairs starttde / startkde. |
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| SlavekB | I have to go... |
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| unkn-error | hello! |
| unkn-error | so little people here? :( |
| Space_Man | hi unkn-error |
| Space_Man | I'm quite tall |
| unkn-error | lol |
| unkn-error | I installed some time ago trinitry and I liked |
| Space_Man | :P |
| unkn-error | now I got ubuntu precise but I haven't seen a package for it on the site |
| unkn-error | I guess there is only some daily/nightly/alfa-beta package? |
| Space_Man | the Precise packages are still being built |
| Space_Man | you could try the nightly builds |
| unkn-error | I am a little afraid to not mess the system up, I worked hard on it till now |
| Space_Man | but there have been reports that the Trinity nightly builds don't have a full version for Precise |
| Space_Man | I know the feeling |
| unkn-error | anyway, kinda dumb question but will be 256 ram memory enugh? |
| Space_Man | you could try Slavek's PPA |
| Space_Man | I don't knoe about ram usage :( |
| rzs19 | with swap, it should? |
| unkn-error | when it will be ready, it will be availeble trough a ppa not trough a repro? |
| rzs19 | 512 mb should be enough, 256 at the limit, i think... |
| unkn-error | I don't have a such good experience with ppa's, they didn't let me tu upgrade the system in the past |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 873 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=873 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Gwenview will not build libmng support |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 877 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=877 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdeutils: X11/extensions/extutil.h: present but cannot be compiled |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 686 as a duplicate of bug 1003. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=686 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Screen doesn't lock with Kickoff/KMenu open |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1003 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, screen lock fails when computer is suspended |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 667 as a duplicate of bug 824. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=667 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, kdm spawns kwin as root, keeps running after login |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=824 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDM cannot start other WMs except TDE |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 349 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=349 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Files are saved with incorrect group ownership |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 486 as a duplicate of bug 812. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=486 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, KOrgac reading Zimbra calendars via caldav crash constantly for almost all users |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 blocker, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
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| SlavekB | rzs19: KMail counting of unread messages in the system tray icon is fixed. |
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| Space_Man | hmmm, attempting to update with SlavekB's PPA and Tim's ISP is again slow "2,169 B/s 7h 41min 30s" |
| SlavekB | For me, it now also downloads slowly :) |
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| SlavekB | Slow downloads should be resolved after release packages as an official update - 3.5.13.1. |
| SlavekB | This should get the packages on the mirrors. |
| rzs19 | SlavekB: good work, i will test it, after shopping :) |
| MutantTurkey | omrning guys |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: is there an official update |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Good morning, during my afternoon :) |
| MutantTurkey | :_) |
| SlavekB | I assumed that I will not integrate any dlaší patches. |
| MutantTurkey | dlasi patches? |
| SlavekB | :D |
| SlavekB | next patches |
| SlavekB | I forgot there some czech;) |
| SlavekB | But now I hesitate over one patch to kdebase and another two to kdelibs. |
| SlavekB | [tdelibs] Fix composition extension detection |
| SlavekB | [tdelibs] Fix KTempFile not obeying special bits on file creation |
| SlavekB | This closes Bug 349 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=349 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Files are saved with incorrect group ownership |
| SlavekB | [tdebase] Prevent tdm crash if window manager or compositor do not start |
| SlavekB | But this would be the release again postponed a bit. |
| SlavekB | All three patches seem to be a repairs that might be useful. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 375 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=375 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, lisa service doesn't start |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1007 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1007 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kio_imap4 hogs with 100% cpu on authentication failure |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1007 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1007 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1007 major, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kio_imap4 hogs with 100% cpu on authentication failure |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: what is up my friend? |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Hi |
| MutantTurkey | how are you? |
| SlavekB | I am a little tired. |
| SlavekB | Moreover, it is now somehow inaccessible build-farm. |
| SlavekB | I am preparing another update kdepim :) |
| SlavekB | I have to go |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1008 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1008 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesktop_lock can hang under certain conditions |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1009 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1009 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kio_imap4 hangs with 100% CPU on large IMAP folders |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1009 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1009 major, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, kio_imap4 hangs with 100% CPU on large IMAP folders |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Tim and Francois are amazing. |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Still have other fixes and improvements :) |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: yes they are awesome |
| MutantTurkey | they do good work |
| MutantTurkey | trinity is better than ever |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: plus Darrell doing the busy work of renaming |
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| mickael_centos62 | is this normal? trinity-3.5.13-el6-extras-source/primary_db | 14 kB 00:00 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/el6/trinity-extras/SRPMS/repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2: [Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum Trying other mirror. Error: failure: repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2 from trinity-3.5.13-el6-extras-source: [Errno 256] No |
| mickael_centos62 | command was "[root@localhost yum.repos.d]# yum install trinity-desktop" |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
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| MutantTurkey | who is maintaining our repositoriers for fedora? |
| SlavekB | François |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: I don't use yum based distros |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: you should email him. |
| SlavekB | And if I know, signaled an update. |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: francois.andriot _at_ free.fr |
| SlavekB | In relation with the release of Fedora 17. |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: we also have a mailing list for Trinity desktop users that is a good place to ask general questions, you can find it here; http://trinitydesktop.org/mailinglist.php |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: he did just post something about that. |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::8436 |
| mickael_centos62 | MutantTurkey: Thanks for the addy |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: new with trinity? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: should we create a trinity Facebook page? lol |
| mickael_centos62 | yes, first time, trying to get it build on centos6.2 |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I do not like Facebook :) |
| MutantTurkey | aren't there packages for RHEL that will work with centos? |
| mickael_centos62 | agree, no fb.... |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: it was a half joke because none of our users use it.... |
| MutantTurkey | that was the joke |
| mickael_centos62 | :) |
| MutantTurkey | :-p |
| SlavekB | :) |
| mickael_centos62 | yeah, was using the RedHat inst. |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: didn't work? |
| MutantTurkey | building from source isn't terrible either though, just a hell of a lot of prereqs |
| mickael_centos62 | no, came up with the checksum error |
| SlavekB | Maybe synchronization is in progress... |
| mickael_centos62 | Francois' inst are for the Fedora repos |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: maybe syncronization is always in progress. |
| mickael_centos62 | ah, good thought, I'll wait abit.... |
| MutantTurkey | seems our mirror system is not the most reliable... |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| mickael_centos62 | lol |
| mickael_centos62 | who's is? |
| SlavekB | If Francois updated packages, so it may take a while before you synchronized. |
| mickael_centos62 | Slavekb: reasonably okay, I'm fed up with the new Gnome and KDE, so useing Xfce, which isn't all that. I miss K3.5 |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: xfce is respectable though |
| SlavekB | mickael_centos62: I understand - I also prefer KDE 3.5, so the Trinity. |
| MutantTurkey | Trinity in my mind is superior vastly to kde3.5 |
| MutantTurkey | so many fixes and updates |
| mickael_centos62 | MT: good :) |
| MutantTurkey | though samelian would argue otherwise |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: plus Timothy, SlavekB and Francios and well Darrell and David are making very good headway on our R14 release |
| mickael_centos62 | xfce is okay, tons of little annoyances |
| MutantTurkey | though I am slacking on my bugs :p |
| mickael_centos62 | at least your helping the newbs ;) |
| MutantTurkey | heh |
| MutantTurkey | aka avoiding work |
| mickael_centos62 | well yeah, but still nice for me :0 |
| SlavekB | Let me say that the Trinity 3.5.13.x will be the best KDE 3.5 that ever was :) |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I concur |
| mickael_centos62 | when's it suppose to come out? |
| mickael_centos62 | eh, nm, miss read 13 for 15 |
| SlavekB | I wish to be solved bug 1008 and bug 1009. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1008 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesktop_lock can hang under certain conditions |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1009 major, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, kio_imap4 hangs with 100% CPU on large IMAP folders |
| MutantTurkey | hangs with 100% CPU because it is loading |
| MutantTurkey | i assume |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | you know large repository takes a long time to parse |
| MutantTurkey | s/repository/inbox/g |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: there will be a stable point release |
| MutantTurkey | basically patches for 3.5.13 |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB is working on that |
| MutantTurkey | then there will be in a few months R14 (would have been 3.5.14 but we want a new name scheme) |
| mickael_centos62 | bug 1008 is ugly :( |
| SlavekB | I test the mailbox with the 60000 messages ;) |
| SlavekB | Ugly, but probably does not occur very often. |
| SlavekB | I assume that Tim is working on a solution. |
| MutantTurkey | tim cannot be the only contributor |
| mickael_centos62 | SlavekB: yeah, it does... I'd guess i have over 100k messges. Too many years using kmail, too many mailing lists and what not... |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: really? |
| MutantTurkey | don't you guys archive your inbox? |
| MutantTurkey | I have plenty of mail, but a small inbox |
| MutantTurkey | aparently 230 bugs have been marked resolved since 3.5.13 |
| MutantTurkey | or Nov 1st' |
| mickael_centos62 | yeah, my mail dir is over 700 meg (and no, never archived anything. backups etc. but no archive. kmail handles it okay [well did] |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: my mail dir is probably that large as well |
| MutantTurkey | i just keep my inbox empty |
| mickael_centos62 | ah, yes, I filter all mailing lists to their own folder, so yeah, my inbox is only 2k ish... |
| MutantTurkey | apparently its so slow because |
| MutantTurkey | it is looping through each string of each email or each charater and adding backslashes and stuff |
| MutantTurkey | to sanatize it |
| MutantTurkey | but |
| MutantTurkey | wow |
| MutantTurkey | we need integration more through the desktop I think |
| mickael_centos62 | I understand sanitization, but, uhg, that's a bit much? |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: it seems weird |
| MutantTurkey | like Kalarm and the calander should be connected |
| MutantTurkey | and such |
| mickael_centos62 | is ktorrent in trinity? or is it a build off their svn/git? |
| MutantTurkey | OLD ktorrent is in trinity |
| MutantTurkey | and it's not very good imho |
| MutantTurkey | I always have been a lover of transmission |
| MutantTurkey | it is so very good and simple |
| mickael_centos62 | yeah, 4.x is about the lowest for Kt |
| MutantTurkey | azerues (as bloaty as it is ) is also powerful |
| MutantTurkey | our ktorrent doesn't handle magnet links |
| MutantTurkey | which is a major problem |
| SlavekB | I use KTorrent from Trinity :) |
| SlavekB | ... but rarely. |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: the statistics module crashes for me |
| SlavekB | In 3.5.13.1 the fixed ;) |
| mickael_centos62 | how well do KDE4 apps work? Can I just use that ver? (okay i've got 2-3k torrents with 4.x Kt, don't want to try to migrate that) |
| mickael_centos62 | turn off stats.?. |
| MutantTurkey | 2-3 thousand.... |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: nices |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: that is alot |
| mickael_centos62 | i'm a packrat, and I figure if I've got the space, might as well seed them... |
| SlavekB | Commit 5af9907f :) |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: good point |
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| MutantTurkey | i wish we had a bt based package manager |
| SlavekB | ...or commit 355c6b69, when using the system GeoIP |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: we need magnet links in ktorrent to make it usable |
| mickael_centos62 | MutantTurkey: any prob with installing libktorrent and ktorrent from latest tarballs? |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | "latest tarballs" as in 3.5.13 or 4.X? |
| SlavekB | KTorrent from KDE4 already have it? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I assume so |
| mickael_centos62 | opps, ktorrents tarballs |
| mickael_centos62 | I don't mind having the KDE4 cruft on my system, I just don't want to run it's bloat desktop |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: If so, it might backport. |
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| MutantTurkey | possibly |
| MutantTurkey | i would like to also start avoiding trinity cruft |
| MutantTurkey | like to launch just konsole the whole kde_init system launches |
| MutantTurkey | thats a bit ridiculous |
| mickael_centos62 | MT: is akondi in the kde_init system? |
| SlavekB | mickael_centos62: Trinity does not need to Akonadi. |
| mickael_centos62 | woot! great! have always hated that new kmail has to run a mysql server... |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: there are advantages to that |
| MutantTurkey | it is good for indexing purposes |
| MutantTurkey | more efficient |
| MutantTurkey | because that is what databases are designed to do. |
| MutantTurkey | but I do not think mysql was the right databsae |
| MutantTurkey | i prefer a sqlite or another database alternative |
| MutantTurkey | but running a full blow mysql daemon is crazy |
| mickael_centos62 | yeah, but it adds a 30+ second lag when opening a new folder (okay, so some of my folders are huge) |
| MutantTurkey | yep |
| mickael_centos62 | and... it does not keep it? it rebuilds the akondi db every time you restart kmail? |
| MutantTurkey | i don't know |
| mickael_centos62 | I don't know exactly either, but I've been able to find mail faster with grep on the my mail directory than using kmail(4.x)'s search |
| mickael_centos62 | okay, have to go, been good chatting with everyone, checksum's are still off for el6 repo, will try back later, best, michael |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | so, what are my options on precise/12.04? nightly-builds do not work |
| MutantTurkey | use a better distro |
| MutantTurkey | custom compile |
| DexterF | this "better distro" attitude is not getting anyone anywhere. custom compile, absolutely. where do I get the src and would there be a few hints how to compile? |
| MutantTurkey | source |
| MutantTurkey | well |
| MutantTurkey | there is |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/releases.php |
| MutantTurkey | but really, using debian will result in many less problems ;p |
| MutantTurkey | also you could compile from our git tree |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: is there a tarball with all of your patches? |
| DexterF | been with debian. too outdated |
| MutantTurkey | heh I use arch |
| MutantTurkey | so |
| DexterF | MutantTurkey: I downloaded the full tarball with 1.4GB |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| DexterF | ill check that one out now |
| DexterF | arch, well, yes, it's the hot underdog thing right now but I need sth I can throw 3rd party stuff at like that. GuitarPro, brother printer drivers etc |
| DexterF | the come in debs or rpm so deb or rpm dist it is |
| MutantTurkey | dude |
| DexterF | I am too old for pioneering |
| MutantTurkey | the AUR |
| MutantTurkey | is awesome |
| MutantTurkey | DexterF: i see Archlinux taking a strong foothold in the next few years |
| DexterF | the what? |
| MutantTurkey | since 3 years ago i started using it, it has grown massively |
| MutantTurkey | the Arch User Repositories |
| MutantTurkey | has most everything extra that didn't make it into the offical repos |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: The current set of patches I still did not exhibit. |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| DexterF | I don't have time to wait for "years" for a dist to become recognized. |
| MutantTurkey | what does recognized mean? |
| MutantTurkey | i was just saying the growth has been exponential |
| MutantTurkey | the userbase is already large |
| SlavekB | DexterF: And you can wait to time after the release of 3.5.13.1? |
| DexterF | SlavekB: ? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: when is that date? |
| SlavekB | DexterF: Once 3.5.13.1 will be released, so I plan to try to port 3.5.13.1 also to Precise. |
| DexterF | SlavekB: what timeframe are you thinking? |
| SlavekB | As I said: I wish to be solved bug 1008 and bug 1009. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1008 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesktop_lock can hang under certain conditions |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1009 major, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, kio_imap4 hangs with 100% CPU on large IMAP folders |
| MutantTurkey | i notice that is marked patch available |
| MutantTurkey | does the patch work? |
| SlavekB | Yes, patch for addQuotes function works. |
| SlavekB | But I'm not sure, if Francois works on patch for function removeQuots. |
| SlavekB | With that, it looks complicated. |
| DexterF | mmh, kmail and imap... never ending story... |
| DexterF | the other thing seems to be the screensaver and the dialog fighting over authority |
| DexterF | kwin says "screensaver (or whatever one clicked) has focus" but the dialog wants it, doesn get it. I'd disable the dialog altogether and see if it still happens then. if so, spawning the dialog would have to be preceeded by giving it focus. |
| DexterF | ah, hen/egg, nvm |
| DexterF | SlavekB: do you have a build script perhaps? |
| SlavekB | If will not come another problems, the release 3.5.13.1 could be in the order of days. |
| mickael_centos62 | OpenSUSE? When? Ever? Just a tease on the homepage? |
| mickael_centos62 | Dex: expect another problem... just the nature of the beast |
| MutantTurkey | we will never have OpenSUSE until Xu_R does it |
| MutantTurkey | which will be never |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | or accordingly I was looking through old ML posts - last year Xu_R was "almost done" |
| MutantTurkey | ;p |
| MutantTurkey | he is busy though |
| mickael_centos62 | okay, can someone remove it (and Mandriva?) from the trinity homepage? |
| mickael_centos62 | Q: is Slackware the dist. that you compile everything? |
| MutantTurkey | where is it? |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: I don't see it... |
| MutantTurkey | oh i see |
| MutantTurkey | someone is working on it... just slowly |
| mickael_centos62 | MutantTurkey: "last year Xu_R was "almost done"" ??? hmm, I'm just asking that something be added/deleted such that users don't expect any time soon (if at all). |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: robert was making progress on it but has been busy |
| MutantTurkey | it probably would be good to remove |
| mickael_centos62 | or at least add a note, that work has stopped, and (if willing) it can be turned over to someone else for completion?: |
| MutantTurkey | mickael_centos62: I suggest email Tim asking him to update the text |
| MutantTurkey | i'll pm you his email |
| mickael_centos62 | k, thanks, got it. |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| mickael_centos62 | hmf... libktorrent-1.2.0 won't compile on CentOS 6.2 ARG! just want a dist that freaking works.... |
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| MutantTurkey | hey Space_Man |
| Space_Man | hi MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| SlavekB | Compilation runs, I also will run ;) |
| SlavekB | I will come back later. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1009 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1009 major, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kio_imap4 hangs with 100% CPU on large IMAP folders |
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| Z_God | should I report bugs against the current nightlies for precise? |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: I would say yes, unless they are build bugs |
| Z_God | packaging bugs |
| MobileTurkey | like what? |
| MobileTurkey | probably not then |
| MobileTurkey | I would instead just email tim and say you hit a problem |
| Z_God | the python-sip from the repository misses Provides: python2.7-sip, sip-api-8.0, sip-api-8.1 |
| Z_God | it still has Provides: python2.7-sip, sip-api-7.0, sip-api-7.1 |
| MobileTurkey | yeah I would say email the devel list and give tim a heads up |
| Z_God | alright |
| Z_God | also ctrl+esc doesn't work |
| Z_God | and I should probably hunt for another layout switcher, the kxkb issues are still there |
| MobileTurkey | I dunno |
| Z_God | ctrl+esc should bring up the process list |
| MobileTurkey | for me it opens the menu? |
| Z_God | really? |
| MobileTurkey | yeah lol |
| Z_God | in all previous versions it would show ksysguard |
| Z_God | alt+f1 should give you the menu |
| MobileTurkey | or we have differentlayouts :p |
| Z_God | US here |
| MobileTurkey | no shortcut layouts |
| Z_God | the shortcut scheme here is the default |
| Z_God | and the shortcut shows up correctly as well |
| Z_God | "Show Taskmanager" Ctrl+Escape |
| Z_God | I use that one quite often ;) |
| MobileTurkey | did you try both shortcuts? |
| MobileTurkey | check your path |
| Z_God | both? |
| Z_God | my path looks fine |
| MobileTurkey | i mean both Ctrl's |
| MobileTurkey | hum |
| MobileTurkey | that is strange |
| Z_God | neither works |
| Z_God | ctrl+alt+esc does work |
| Z_God | I'll send an e-mail |
| Z_God | also Martin was wrong about kwin btw |
| MobileTurkey | what? |
| Z_God | it is used also by Razor-Qt |
| Z_God | and they use kde4's version |
| MobileTurkey | hmmm |
| MobileTurkey | why use Razor QT though...? |
| Z_God | I think maybe it would be possible to have one kwin version for Razor Qt and Trinity |
| Z_God | trinity suddenly broke here |
| Z_God | so I tried razor-qt |
| Z_God | it's not bad, quite fast |
| Z_God | but still misses a lot of features |
| Z_God | I was using kde4 before that, which broke as well |
| MobileTurkey | it's all about features |
| Z_God | at some point trinity started working again |
| Z_God | so now I updated to the nightlies |
| Z_God | I was using the oneiric version on precise before, but that is not ideal |
| Z_God | ah yeah |
| Z_God | there's another bug |
| Z_God | ksysguard |
| Z_God | the processtable just keeps flashing |
| MobileTurkey | I hate ubuntu for this reason |
| rzs19 | hmm, ksysguard popup and the menu popsup, with US LAyout |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: for testing purposes, you should create another user |
| MobileTurkey | with a fresh profile |
| MobileTurkey | to see if you can reproduce the error |
| Z_God | MobileTurkey: I can do that, but I would expect upgrades to work in the end |
| Z_God | I'll try it now though |
| MobileTurkey | just try it :p |
| rzs19 | so, err. crtl + esc doesn't work for you? |
| Z_God | rzs19: nope |
| Z_God | same issues with a test user |
| rzs19 | which version? i'm running 3.5.13.1 under Debian Squeeze and it works. |
| Z_God | rzs19: nightlies |
| rzs19 | maybe another application is catching the event? |
| Z_God | no idea |
| rzs19 | okay, shouldn'T forgott it :) |
| rzs19 | but here it works. |
| Z_God | I just tried it in a fresh session with a new user |
| Z_God | and it doesn't work |
| rzs19 | which distribution? |
| Z_God | ubuntu precise |
| rzs19 | that makes me chuckel :P |
| Z_God | why? |
| rzs19 | becouse its ubuntu :D |
| Z_God | I do not really see the relevance |
| rzs19 | everytime, when i was trying ubuntu, i was soo short fro mrunning amok. |
| Z_God | the bugs likely also occur on debian |
| Z_God | try the nightlies as well if you feel like :P |
| rzs19 | come on don't take the point i have to bas hagainst ubuntu. |
| rzs19 | why are you using nightlies? hm? :) |
| rzs19 | you know, your pc could explode and kill your hamster! |
| Z_God | I just wanted to test them and there is no release for precise :) |
| Z_God | I was using the oneiric version previously |
| rzs19 | okay ,that is a point... |
| rzs19 | so much changed, between the releases? |
| Z_God | trinity has some awkward dependencies |
| rzs19 | you could make a squeeze debootstrap and start TDE out of them and ... forgett it, this sounds sick, this is sick... |
| Z_God | so it makes a bit of hacking necessary when installing on another ubuntu version |
| Z_God | but it works ok normally |
| Z_God | but I'm a bit surprised there are so many changes in trinity that it causes such bugs... although I'm not sure what's all happening behind the scenes to keep things supported |
| rzs19 | i don't know where they get the time to do all that stuff, maybe a deal with a crossroad demon? |
| rzs19 | they got 48 hours days, or so... |
| Z_God | yeah, me neither, I'm still impressed with timothy's dev skills |
| Z_God | I'm off now |
| Z_God | have a good time all |
| rzs19 | okay, bye |
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| MobileTurkey | yawn |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1010 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1010 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [REGRESSION] process table in ksysguard keeps flashing |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1011 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1011 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [REGRESSION] Default task manager shortcut ctrl+escape does not work anymore |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1012 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1012 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Packaging] python-sip from the Trinity repository cannot install on Ubuntu Precise due to a broken provides |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: good work |
| Z_God | MobileTurkey: yeah it's mainly by coincedence really that I started testing the nightlies |
| MobileTurkey | someones gotta do it |
| Z_God | I still am worried about Trinity's future with this manpower and I do not have bad experiences with the current KDE people, it's just that I really couldn't work with anything else |
| Z_God | I even tried Unity for a small day |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: then stop using Ubuntu... |
| Z_God | but that was quite a disaster really... also due to bugs I suppose though |
| MobileTurkey | honestly. |
| Z_God | what else? |
| MobileTurkey | using debian has been the best decision in my life |
| Z_God | I run debian as well on some systems |
| MobileTurkey | stable, up to date, no upgrades every 6 months |
| Z_God | but it doesn't solve any DE issues |
| MobileTurkey | plus trinity works on debian very well. |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: lack of man power? we've closed 200+ bugs on the tracker since november |
| Z_God | I have also considered SUSE, Ilya's version of KDE3 seems very stable, but I want apt |
| MobileTurkey | it is stable but bit rotting |
| Z_God | 200+ bugs says nothing |
| MobileTurkey | out of 1000 reported bugs it does |
| Z_God | I don't think so |
| MobileTurkey | I think so |
| MobileTurkey | I think it shows that we are active |
| Z_God | I'm impressed with Timothy's work |
| MobileTurkey | very. |
| MobileTurkey | he is -AWESOME- |
| MobileTurkey | but also we have a growing team |
| Z_God | but it's still a one man show |
| MobileTurkey | agree |
| MobileTurkey | well |
| MobileTurkey | sort of |
| Z_God | I saw other people doing branding things |
| MobileTurkey | Darrell and Slavek and samelian have write access now as well |
| Z_God | which I suppose is needed, but not really important |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: it's important to avoid bugs of kde inteference |
| Z_God | I know samelian isn't convinced about TQt yet ;) |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: I know |
| Z_God | partly yes |
| MobileTurkey | there isn't a better solution |
| Z_God | but blindly renaming everything from KDE to TDE is not the real way to fix interference |
| MobileTurkey | not blindly |
| MobileTurkey | that combined with fixing paths and stuff |
| MobileTurkey | darrell is very pragmatic and thorough |
| Z_God | but the paths should have to be the only thing |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: I disagree, we are a seperate desktop |
| MobileTurkey | we are not kde |
| Z_God | still, I expect that Qt5 will be important |
| MobileTurkey | Qt5 meh |
| MobileTurkey | they keep saying 'oh it's better and faster and more amazing' |
| MobileTurkey | each release takes up more memory and drawing time... |
| Z_God | there hasn't even been a release |
| MobileTurkey | alpha |
| Z_God | I haven't looked at it |
| Z_God | and I can't judge it |
| Z_God | I hope Timothy will consider it, the developers are listening to feedback right now |
| MobileTurkey | Qt5 is not as big of a change as Qt4 was |
| MobileTurkey | afaik |
| Z_God | which is good |
| MobileTurkey | "here is a binary and to a smaller extent source compatibility break between Qt 4.x and Qt 5. We have however worked hard to make an easy and smooth transition of existing code to Qt 5 possible. " |
| Z_God | seems good |
| Z_God | it should mean fast adoption |
| MobileTurkey | depends |
| Z_God | and at least maybe that also Tim's Qt4 theme engine will work |
| MobileTurkey | well that shouldn't be difficult then |
| Z_God | I only saw a single message from Tim about Qt5 which was not negative |
| MobileTurkey | FUD is a problem here |
| MobileTurkey | but mostly because KDE4 sucked ass - not qt4 |
| Z_God | I can't judge it |
| Z_God | I reported an issue I had with KDE4, turned out to be a Qt4 issue |
| Z_God | but I actually happened to be chatting with a Qt dev, so that was nice |
| Z_God | it may be fixed in Qt5 now |
| Z_God | but the trinity project should be careful to be open to criticism |
| Z_God | especially from KDE, considering their knowledge of the code |
| MobileTurkey | I concur |
| MobileTurkey | but I do not approve of martins approach |
| MobileTurkey | that is what we call "being a doushe" |
| Z_God | I think his approach is not always right either, but his criticism is still valid |
| Z_God | it's important to separate the two |
| Z_God | I've also seen remarks from Trinity people that were not appropriate at times, correct discussion is apparently difficult in general |
| MobileTurkey | I agree |
| MobileTurkey | but I refuse to take criticism from someone who is mocking me or my project |
| Z_God | it won't help you |
| MobileTurkey | the nature of constructive criticism is totally destroyed when it's not constructive. |
| MobileTurkey | It will help me if everyone is respectful. |
| MobileTurkey | that's what i'd like to see. |
| Z_God | any kind of feedback, even from people who do not bring it up correctly, can be very useful |
| MobileTurkey | no arrogance, no finger pointings |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: yes but it's hard to read those points when he is busy saying "oh you are so stupid and small minded" |
| MobileTurkey | "oh yes your program is broken - but i won't bother explaining how" |
| Z_God | yes, it may be hard |
| MobileTurkey | yes it may be pointless |
| MobileTurkey | because if they are causing more of a problem then they are resolving... it's not worth it |
| Z_God | but still, one should stay calm, ask & listen |
| Z_God | if Trinity is going to be good, it will succeed anyhow |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: you have a bad haircut, you are ugly, you need to loose weight because you're a fatt piece of shit and you smell. Take a shower and hit the gym. Also i recommend trying to get some friends instead of playing xbox all day you looser. |
| MobileTurkey | there is valid criticism. |
| Z_God | no matter what people will write about it |
| MobileTurkey | but not delivered in the right format |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: I am not one to pretend trinity isn't without problems |
| MobileTurkey | I understand it's not ideal and it doesn't have a large development team and it's full of people who are unwilling to change |
| MobileTurkey | but I still use it |
| Z_God | I do not agree with you that Trinity ever received criticism in a similar form to what you just wrote |
| Z_God | but that would be a subjective difference of perception I suppose |
| Z_God | I have read all of Martin's mails as you probably saw |
| MobileTurkey | i have read them too |
| MobileTurkey | but he also makes posts on his blog that are rude |
| Z_God | I know that Tim was worried at one point about negative publicity, also from him |
| MobileTurkey | and attacking in nature |
| Z_God | but I do not think this is something that should bother the project |
| MobileTurkey | it does not bother me |
| Z_God | better take the feedback that one gets and use it to improve the project |
| MobileTurkey | i am actually in favor of looking at kwin integration |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| MobileTurkey | but nobody will take feedback if it's presented the wrong way - period |
| Z_God | when I used KDE4, I also noticed that many applications are significantly more advanced than their Trinity counterparts |
| Z_God | there is just no way around it |
| MobileTurkey | that is true |
| MobileTurkey | there are many cool things about KDE4 |
| MobileTurkey | many of our non-core applications should imho be dropped for newer versions |
| Z_God | so being able to drop those old versions that are only used now because of Qt3 and kdelibs-v3 would be a good thing |
| Z_God | yep |
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| MobileTurkey | anyway I need to work :p |
| Z_God | good luck with your work then ;) |
| MobileTurkey | thanks |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | tried to upgrade to nighty builds from an xfce session, cannot remove the package ksmserver-trinity, however |
| DexterF | ideas why? |
| DexterF | think it might have to do with this divert: http://pastebin.com/0AdVKqGB |
| DexterF | plus before it says: : E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the ksmserver-trinity package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. |
| DexterF | to top it all off I can't seem to uninstall the old packages from oneiric: http://pastebin.com/Yh5Kj8Bp |
| DexterF | so, um, ... help? :) |
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| DexterF | hmm.. seems apt-get gets stuff done better here than aptitude.... bob knows why... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1013 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1013 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kandy (from kdepim) has no icon in application menu |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1014 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1014 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, twin4/kwin4 does not play |
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| Strangelv | Hello |
| * Strangelv would say 'morning' but doesn't remember clearly what time zone Slavek is in | |
| * Strangelv wonders if there's a guide somewhere for migrating from Ubuntu to Debian. His primary objective with Ubuntu was an easily installed Debian. Updates every six months were amazingly better for him than being forced to run Debian Unstable to get anything current, but that was years ago that he had those problems with Debian, and Ubuntu jumped the shark a few releases ago | |
| K`zan | Always morning someplace :). |
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| Z_God | Strangelv: just change your sources.list to point to debian instead of ubuntu & see how it goes ;P |
| Z_God | mainly be sure that the debian versions will be in general newer than the ubuntu versions of packages |
| Z_God | and be prepared to force some manual removals and often 'apt-get -f install' |
| Z_God | (and yeah, it wasn't me who gave you this idea) |
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| Strangelv | Z_God: that's the easy answer and exactly what I would have done 8 years ago. I've gotten a bit more cautious since then |
| Strangelv | Which is part of how I enedd up with no menus in KDE 3.2 |
| Strangelv | Also, I'm wondering if package are more likely to not have incompatible names than they were half a dozen years ago |
| Strangelv | "Actually, Kubuntu Hoary through Jauntyish has me spoiled. Is there something that has the plusses of Ubuntu mithout the shark jump? |
| * Strangelv needs to rlook this up sometime doesn't he | |
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| Z_God | Strangelv: yeah, same here ;) |
| * Strangelv apt-get -t experimental dist-upgrade # not? | |
| * Strangelv once had an application, KMuddy, that had dependancies that weren't onyl not in Sid, they were'nt even in Scud... | |
| Strangelv | "Needless to say, I wasn't able to successfully install it... |
| * Strangelv found Papaya and used that unti[l he discovered that there wasn't a stable 64 bit package. He then found Gnome-MUD and misses the earlier version before teh overhaul | |
| SlavekB | Strangelv: I am in time zone +0200 (Prague, Czech Republic), but I works with some shift - late enough to go to sleep and not wake up so early. ;) |
| Strangelv | Personally, I generally classify morning in the same sense that I do afternoon and evening |
| Strangelv | So whether you just got up or are staying up later than is typical for non-geeks isn't important to me. 8) |
| Strangelv | ...At least not for this purpose. It obviously does for having a discussion. 8) |
| * Strangelv blathers on for five and a half hours before figuring out that SlavekB called it a day hours ago | |
| rzs19 | will TDE migrate to KWin and other KDE4 Apps? :/ |
| Strangelv | I'm pondering the opposite possibility: Qt4/5 support enables the KDE3 versions to run with KDE4/5 natively, possibyl killing off the rump versions they've been using |
| Strangelv | kde-full-featured-applications-2012-11-03.deb ? |
| SlavekB | Strangelv: what is this package? |
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| Strangelv | "a hypothetical package we would put together for KDE4/5 users |
| Strangelv | "that would replace the rump bult-in apprications with their far more capable' predecessors' that will run natively under Qt4/5 with TQt |
| rzs19 | err Konsole and Kate from KDE3/TDE are more performant than there successors... |
| Strangelv | And last I checked, the KDE4 version of Gwenview was till a massive disappointment |
| rzs19 | i would take care that TDE get light as possible. |
| rzs19 | becouse, we do not only want the Desktop, we also want the applications from KDE3/TDE. |
| Strangelv | This hypotheticarl package wouldn't be the primary goal. It's a vary big target of opportunity, even if it's not for TDE users |
| Strangelv | "...as tehy'd have all this stuff already |
| rzs19 | btw i have testet konqueror vs chrome and konqueror does much faster render. scrolling a picture inside chrome are damn slow. |
| rzs19 | okay khtml is old, but there was something strange. |
| rzs19 | maybe we should migrate godofeatures back. |
| rzs19 | is* |
| rzs19 | good* |
| SlavekB | For me, sometimes rendering the page in khtml crash (on a specific site). |
| rzs19 | damn, sry to less sleep... |
| rzs19 | i think, there are many bugs inside khtml, but its fast :) |
| SlavekB | ...but still I not sink into the source code to find it. :) |
| Strangelv | How close is WebKit to its KHTML ancestor? |
| Strangelv | "in terms of performance? |
| SlavekB | On some pages are slow JavaScript. (in khtml) |
| rzs19 | maybe we should make professional benchmark. |
| SlavekB | anyway ... for me is Konqueror the primary web browser :) |
| Strangelv | "I mst admit I've never used Konqueror as my primary web bowser. Not even when it was competitive and reasonably stable. I've considered it too closely tied to my operating environment to want to use it with random websites |
| Strangelv | I do often use it to open local web page,s though |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1013 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1013 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kandy (from kdepim) has no icon in application menu |
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| michael_centos62 | yum install trinity-desktop |
| michael_centos62 | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/el6/trinity-extras/RPMS/x86_64/repodata/filelists.sqlite.bz2: [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 22 - "The requested URL returned error: 416" Trying other mirror. Error: failure: repodata/filelists.sqlite.bz2 from trinity-3.5.13-el6-extras: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. |
| michael_centos62 | anyone know Fracious' (sp) email addy? so I can email him directly? |
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| MutantTurkey | michael_centos62: i do |
| MutantTurkey | but i suggest the ML |
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| MutantTurkey | michael_centos62: i will send it to you privately |
| MutantTurkey | sent |
| michael_centos62 | Hi MutantTurkey, yeah, don't have my regular email (kmail2 won't import), so having to use yahoo, but I will add myself to the ML once I get real mail back :) |
| MutantTurkey | ok! |
| michael_centos62 | Thanks ! |
| MutantTurkey | yessir |
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| MutantTurkey | I get scared when Image magick is taking up 70% of my memory on my server with 8 gigs of ram. |
| MutantTurkey | thank god for swap! |
| michael_centos62 | MT: 70% of 8 GB? now I'm really thankful I'm a backend dev. |
| MutantTurkey | michael_centos62: use my full name and it will alert me |
| MutantTurkey | rather powerful cluster |
| MutantTurkey | this is one of 8 nodes |
| MutantTurkey | all 8 gigs of ram, 16 G swap, 8 processors each |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 922 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
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| MobileTurkey | wohoo |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1019 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1019 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [REGRESSION] Compose button does not work in Trinity applications |
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| tbottu | 10trin@3111skyline.com changed the Status on bug 979 from RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=979 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, select buffer paste in kate/kwrite causing line wrap causes crash (X, qt3) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1020 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1020 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Text in kcontrol->Window decorations->IceWM is truncated |
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| Space_Man | "The following packages have been kept back: kdebase-trinity" |
| Space_Man | how to update? |
| SlavekB | From my ppa? |
| Space_Man | yes |
| Space_Man | from your ppa |
| Space_Man | it's been held back for 2 days |
| SlavekB | Build-farm is late with compilation for amd64 platform. :( |
| * Space_Man blames Tim | |
| SlavekB | Today, it looked promising, but now is build-farm completely unavailable. |
| Space_Man | I'm using ubuntu and tried "sudo apt-get upgrade" |
| Space_Man | yesterday, several other *-trinity packages were installed but kdebase-trinity was held back |
| SlavekB | The state is therefore such that the "i386" and "all" are already ax14, but "amd64" is still ax13. |
| SlavekB | It is something to look forward - solution for SVG :) |
| Space_Man | I think I'm using intel :P |
| SlavekB | amd64 == x64 => 64 bit platform |
| SlavekB | I have several machines amd64 and several i386 :) |
| Space_Man | oh |
| Space_Man | I thought amd64 != intel64 |
| Space_Man | I will wait for the build farm to work |
| SlavekB | Intel have two 64 bit platforms: |
| SlavekB | 1. ia64 => itanium |
| SlavekB | 2. x64 => compatible with i386 and amd64 |
| SlavekB | First - ia64 is essentially a dead branch. |
| SlavekB | Second - amd64 is now widely used 64-bit platform. And since 64 extension was designed in AMD, thus also refers to Intel processors. |
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| MutantTurkey | mornig' |
| rzs19 | morning |
| MutantTurkey | how are you? |
| rzs19 | a little bit frustrated and you? :) |
| rzs19 | work costs too much time, to create useless things in an loud environment. |
| SlavekB | Nice - I accidentally due to the testing KMyMoney in Precise discovered a bug in the package. :) |
| SlavekB | The missing dependency: |
| SlavekB | kmymoney2-common-trinity (>= ${source:Version}) |
| SlavekB | Without this, but KMyMoney is useless :) |
| MutantTurkey | rzs19: work is uselss for me in general |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: did you report? |
| SlavekB | rzs19: Not yet - just looking at the current state in the GIT |
| SlavekB | Ok, for R14 it is probably already fixed. |
| SlavekB | I tested 3.5.13.1... |
| SlavekB | ...and for 3.5.13.1 I'll fix it in preparation for official release. :) |
| MutantTurkey | my monitor is so large it is hard to read stuff on the right because it's farther away |
| MutantTurkey | I have to slide back and for the to see different sides of it |
| rzs19 | yeah but work is eating up my time, with nonsense and bad managing, i have so much to do in my own project |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1021 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1021 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] 'What's This' popups do not always work in KControl |
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| unkn-error | hello |
| unkn-error | can you guy's help me install trinitry into my machine? |
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| Space_Man | sure |
| Space_Man | post the machine to me and I'll install trinitry and then return |
| Space_Man | it |
| Space_Man | note, currently Trinity is not available for ubuntu precise |
| Space_Man | this page http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php has some instructions |
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| unkn-error | i'm sorry I didn't chached up Space_man, but |
| unkn-error | I have to compile it I guess, as |
| unkn-error | long as my distro dosen't have the binar version of trinitry |
| unkn-error | can I downlod the sourcecode and compile? |
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| P-CHAN | Do you guys will port Trinity to qt4 or qt5? |
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| MutantTurkey | why do people leave so quickly? |
| MutantTurkey | pfft |
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| SlavekB | Hooray, build-farm revived :) |
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| MutantTurkey | nice |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Please, is it linguistically correct? Fix to not open logout status dialog on manual save session |
| MutantTurkey | er |
| MutantTurkey | as a commit message? |
| SlavekB | Yes. |
| SlavekB | I have patch for Bug 922 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
| MutantTurkey | I just tried to rewrite that like 10 times |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | it is lingustically crappy |
| MutantTurkey | mostly because i don't know what it is |
| MutantTurkey | "Fix ksmserver so that it will not display the logout status dialog when there is a unsaved file open" |
| MutantTurkey | might be better |
| MutantTurkey | or just say "Fix bug 922" LOL |
| SlavekB | See last comment for that bug |
| SlavekB | Nature of the problem is already fixed by Tim. |
| SlavekB | My patch covers only manually triggered save session. |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | well write that then |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| SlavekB | How about that: Fix displaying of logout status dialog with manually triggered save session. |
| MutantTurkey | sure |
| MutantTurkey | sounds better |
| SlavekB | thanks :) |
| SlavekB | So now I can push it to git :) |
| MutantTurkey | sweet |
| SlavekB | done :) |
| SlavekB | Now remains to cherry pick to v3.5.13-sru branch ;) |
| MutantTurkey | sru +1 |
| MutantTurkey | my trinity box is so stable |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 922 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=922 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, when logging out with unsaved file, trinity does not ask to save it |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: how do you manage to do so much trinity work? |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| SlavekB | :) |
| SlavekB | pushed to v3.5.13-sru branch ;) |
| SlavekB | It remains to prepare kdebase ax15 for my ppa... |
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| samelian | somebody saw this error while build kdelibs? |
| samelian | undefined reference to `__atomic_fetch_add_4' |
| SlavekB | It does this repeatedly? |
| samelian | yes |
| samelian | seems that i must add -march=i686 to cflags |
| samelian | yes, passing -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS="-march=i686" to cmake solved the problem |
| Space_Man | hey unkn-error, did you manage to install trinity? |
| unkn-error | hello Space_Man no |
| unkn-error | I don't know how |
| unkn-error | I wish to install it into my sabayon linux |
| unkn-error | I did not find any layman or ebuild for it |
| Space_Man | oh, I don't know anything about sabayon :( |
| unkn-error | only kde-sunset |
| unkn-error | can you guide me on how to compile it? |
| samelian | unkn-error: I have started some time ago an overlay |
| Space_Man | is sabayon similar to gentoo? |
| samelian | yes |
| samelian | check there: https://github.com/serghei/gentoo-trinity-overlay |
| unkn-error | yes it is, but has an binary package manager also |
| SlavekB | Or there: |
| SlavekB | http://wiki.hasnoname.de/tde:trinity-overlay_on_funtoo_gentoo |
| unkn-error | thanks! bookmarked! :) |
| samelian | however, i abandoned my overlay, because I switched to fedora |
| unkn-error | I am working on something else in this moment, but I will come back on trinitry |
| samelian | actually I abandoned trinity too :) |
| samelian | now I have my own kde3 fork |
| unkn-error | samelian, what did you used before fedora? |
| samelian | gentoo |
| samelian | I was one of kde-sunset maintaners |
| unkn-error | this is what I like @ linux, I can speak on irc with the developers |
| unkn-error | lucky me |
| unkn-error | :) |
| samelian | hehe |
| unkn-error | I don't know where the software is heading but in the old times you could install a linux distro on 256 mb of ram, now you need almost 1 G for running smooth |
| unkn-error | so, regarding kde, fork's like mate |
| unkn-error | samelian, your kde fork is also for gentoo / sabayon? |
| samelian | yes, but is not maintaned too |
| samelian | https://github.com/serghei/gentoo-kde-overlay |
| samelian | I found that fedora is more suitable for me |
| unkn-error | I understand, switching distro's a lot of bugs in software and time consuming stuff |
| samelian | well, using more distros can help to catching various errors |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1022 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1022 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add svg(z) support to kuickshow and kview |
| unkn-error | nice bot you have here :) |
| SlavekB | tbottu is nice :) |
| tbottu | SlavekB: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
| unkn-error | could someone aproximate about how mutch time will gonna consume a tirinitry compile on a intel centrino (laptop) @ 1.6 Ghz with 2 gb of ram? |
| unkn-error | argh, sory 4 typos |
| MutantTurkey | unkn-error: uhh |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | some time |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: hello! |
| samelian | hello MutantTurkey |
| SlavekB | see chapter 9: |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/HowToBuild |
| samelian | unkn-error: probably few hours |
| samelian | depends what you want to build |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: how are you? |
| samelian | fine, as usual :) |
| samelian | you? |
| MutantTurkey | good |
| samelian | i'm finished the udisks2 support |
| samelian | now i'm trying to implement an polkit authentication agent |
| SlavekB | compilations for amd64 again waiting :( |
| SlavekB | I have to go |
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| unkn-error | eh |
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| unkn-error | as I read here: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/GIT |
| unkn-error | I can fetch all the trinitry stuff into my laptop with git |
| unkn-error | but I've never used git before and I don't wish to mess something up, so my git version is 1.7.8.6. This command will do it? " git clone --recursive http://<anonymous>@scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde " |
| SlavekB | unkn-error: Instead <anonymous>@ may be anything. |
| unkn-error | I did like this: git clone --recursive http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde |
| unkn-error | it's fetching :) |
| SlavekB | (Y) |
| unkn-error | kinda slow because it's over wifi, but I will leave it over night |
| SlavekB | I just cloned so far, what I needed to work. |
| SlavekB | It is then less data :) |
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| unkn-error | ~ 4 Gb? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 809 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=809 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, no ssl in kmail or konqueror |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: Packages are already compiled == can be updated. |
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| Space_Man | hi SlavekB, thanks |
| Space_Man | i've just finished updating |
| Space_Man | 43 trinity packages were updated |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1023 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1023 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] KControl does not use the correct icon size |
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| P-chan | Is possible install TDE in Ubuntu precise. I not found the TDE repositories for Precise Pangolin. |
| P-chan | Ok guys. Se you later. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 927 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=927 critical, P1, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, Kate: Can't concurrently run kate with tdesu |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 394 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=394 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Problems with DCOP After Using kdesu |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1008 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1008 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdesktop_lock can hang under certain conditions |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1005 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1005 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] DrKonqi fails to create backtraces |
| MutantTurkey | wohooo |
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| MutantTurkey | still awake |
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| Guest74562 | Hello |
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| mikehenry71655 | Are there any tutorials/documents that explain how to port KDE3/KDE4 programs to Trinity? I've looked but can't find any. |
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| mikehenry71655 | hello anyone there? |
| unkn-error|znc | mikehenry71655, I am here but I guess I can't help you with tinitry related problems as I haven't installed yet |
| unkn-error|znc | but make your point, someone will be around |
| unkn-error|znc | :) |
| mikehenry71655 | no problems |
| mikehenry71655 | Just looking for tutorials/documents that explain how to port KDE3/KDE4 programs to Trinity? I've looked but can't find any. |
| mikehenry71655 | soooooo |
| mikehenry71655 | I'm kinda ignorant |
| unkn-error|znc | this is also mistery to me |
| samelian | is not possible to port KDE4 programs to trinity |
| mikehenry71655 | ok |
| mikehenry71655 | may i inquire why? |
| mikehenry71655 | Has that many libs have changed? IE widgets to display a square might have changed but shouldn't a programmer be able to replace widget a with widget b? |
| samelian | because KDE4 is based on Qt4 |
| mikehenry71655 | or have all the bindings been replaced and changing them might go kablooey.... For instance KMoney. If KMoney adds a feature in there KDE4 could that feature be implamented in the trinity code? |
| samelian | Qt4 is not compatible with Qt3 |
| mikehenry71655 | Yes I know that |
| mikehenry71655 | Just my thinking might be screwed up |
| samelian | well, if you really want to port something from Qt4 to Qt3, is possible |
| samelian | but with some effort |
| samelian | about KDE4 porting to KDE3... is much harder |
| mikehenry71655 | What I wanted was to add features to an existing program. Bibletime. |
| samelian | for this you should know very well APIs for KDE3, KDE4, Qt3 and KDE3 |
| mikehenry71655 | and I wanted to port some KDE3 programs that have NO KDE4 counterparts |
| samelian | to know how to translate calls from one to another |
| mikehenry71655 | ahh |
| mikehenry71655 | not something a search and replace could accomplish.... |
| samelian | no way |
| mikehenry71655 | so an expert in KDE3/4 and QT3/4 would be needed.... |
| samelian | porting from KDE3 to Trinity is much easier |
| mikehenry71655 | cool |
| mikehenry71655 | how? |
| samelian | mostly replacing Q* prefixes with TQ* |
| samelian | for example, QString become TQString |
| mikehenry71655 | Found this cool program that the stopped development with KDE4 was released. Never updated to QT4 |
| mikehenry71655 | so a simple search and replace would theorically work? |
| samelian | yes |
| mikehenry71655 | sweet |
| samelian | maybe you will have some problems with linking |
| mikehenry71655 | ok |
| samelian | because libkdeblabla become libtdeblabla |
| samelian | basically find & replace |
| samelian | however, KDE3 still developing |
| mikehenry71655 | ok replace Q* prefixes with TQ* prefixes and replace libkde* with libtde*... |
| samelian | yes |
| samelian | of couse, the same with includes |
| mikehenry71655 | how is KDE3 still developing? |
| samelian | qstring.h become tqstring.h |
| samelian | I started my own fork of KDE3 |
| mikehenry71655 | ah |
| samelian | and i'm trying to be more conservative than trinity |
| mikehenry71655 | what is it? |
| samelian | what you mean? |
| mikehenry71655 | the name, location, information, etc. |
| samelian | well, right now it is live just as a git repository |
| samelian | check there: https://github.com/serghei |
| mikehenry71655 | too bad the Xandros patches to KDE couldn't be included. Loved Xandros and am trying to recapture the look and feel. |
| samelian | you can borrow the look and feel pretty easy, because is mostly about images |
| mikehenry71655 | yeah and the awesome file manager. to bad they never opensourced that. that would have been cool |
| mikehenry71655 | have you got binaries availble? |
| samelian | not yet, at this moment I'm trying to make some packages for fedora |
| mikehenry71655 | what about suse? |
| samelian | suse already have KDE3 support |
| samelian | some of my improvements will be included in it |
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| judgen | hi |
| Space_Man | hello |
| judgen | How come the old polyester packages does not work anymore? |
| judgen | on my last install i just used the ones from hardy.. extracted them and put all the files in correct folders |
| judgen | and then i had polyester in trinity.. this however does not seem to work anymore as polyester does not show up as an option in kcontrol |
| judgen | at the moment i am using keramik.. but it just does not feel right |
| judgen | brb gonna try something |
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| Space_Man | what is polyester? |
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| mikehenry71655 | i think that any package might need to be repackaged into the trinity directories, but I'm guessing |
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| judgen | bk |
| mikehenry71655 | wb |
| mikehenry71655 | i think that any package might need to be repackaged into the trinity directories, but I'm guessing |
| judgen | mikehenry71655, i have tried putting the files both in /usr/* and in /opt/trinity/* |
| judgen | i will try it again |
| mikehenry71655 | ok, what is polyester, a theme? |
| judgen | indeed |
| judgen | it is a theme i use to have the same look in both qt4 and qt3 apps |
| judgen | and through Qt-gtk i also get the same unified an beautiful look in gtk as well |
| mikehenry71655 | ok, is it binary? |
| judgen | it is |
| mikehenry71655 | have you recompiled it? |
| judgen | but it used to work fine just to copy the files from hardy before.. but no |
| judgen | i mean as late as of last month it worked... i wonder what has changed |
| mikehenry71655 | I found out that kde3 progs need some porting to trinity. working on that myself... |
| mikehenry71655 | maybe a library, function or header, file a bug report |
| judgen | ok |
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| mikehenry71655 | where is the download? I am also trying to get a theme(s) working (Linspire clear), just learning about programming so I want to play with somethings |
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| mikehenry71655 | Trying to install the header files for trinity. I have kde4 headers and sdk installed. the header files for trinity isn't installing. too many conflicts. anyway i can keep the kde4 sdk and install the trinity sdk? |
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| mikehenry71655 | anyone know how? |
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| P-Chan | Any developer here? I have a question? |
| P-Chan | Bomfunk: Are you a developer? Do you develop TDE? |
| mikehenry71655 | sorry I'm not. I still trying to install the sdk alongside the sdk for kde4... |
| P-Chan | mikehenry71655: Will KDE developers port TDE to qt4 or qt5? |
| P-Chan | Because the qt developers will stop qt 3 |
| mikehenry71655 | don't think thats going to change. at one time iirc tim was planning to move to qt4. however that stopped and TDE become the upstream for qt3 so I'm assuming no major changes. Tim would be the one to decide. |
| P-Chan | ok |
| P-Chan | bye] |
| mikehenry71655 | bye |
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| mikehenry71655 | MutantTurkey: do you do development work? |
| MutantTurkey | yes. |
| mikehenry71655 | Trying to install the header files for trinity. I have kde4 headers and sdk installed. the header files for trinity isn't installing. too many conflicts. anyway i can keep the kde4 sdk and install the trinity sdk? |
| MutantTurkey | mikehenry71655: I am on a road trip - at a rest stop - give me a minute to pee. |
| MutantTurkey | sorry |
| MutantTurkey | bb in a sec |
| mikehenry71655 | lol |
| MutantTurkey | back |
| mikehenry71655 | ok |
| MutantTurkey | where are the conflicts? |
| MutantTurkey | I'm surpised actually |
| MutantTurkey | what distro are you using - and are you building from source or what not? |
| mikehenry71655 | kubuntu 12.04 and no i installed from the daily build |
| MutantTurkey | did you just email the ML? |
| MutantTurkey | ah yeah nightly builds != stable |
| MutantTurkey | I just searched the mailing list |
| mikehenry71655 | not yet and the reason I used the nightly builds was i read that TDE wasn't compatible with 12.04 |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | I hate ubuntu and their crappy release cycles |
| MutantTurkey | it's so counter productive |
| mikehenry71655 | lol |
| MutantTurkey | I _hattee_ it |
| MutantTurkey | but what are the conflicts |
| mikehenry71655 | I used linux and xandros back in the day and people hated the slow releases, but it was stable. |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| mikehenry71655 | ok first conflict |
| MutantTurkey | I prefer rolling release |
| MutantTurkey | can you give me a list of the conflicts in a paste |
| MutantTurkey | http://paste.kde.org |
| mikehenry71655 | yeah but talk about unstable(rolling releases) |
| MutantTurkey | it's not unstable really |
| MutantTurkey | not for me at least |
| MutantTurkey | hell I run Arch Linux servers :-) |
| MutantTurkey | i am a arch snob lulz |
| MutantTurkey | I think the best is Debian |
| MutantTurkey | long cycles, regular releaess |
| MutantTurkey | mikehenry71655: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3048 |
| mikehenry71655 | ok don't know about the pastes. I am trying to install from synaptic, so gimme a minute. ( and yeah debian is the best (which is why Linspire and Xandros built from it). you have the best of both worlds either a stable release or a rolling distro, take your pick). |
| mikehenry71655 | your article, i did that, installed fine. |
| mikehenry71655 | when I tried to install the .dev files is when a headache happened... |
| MutantTurkey | you should mention that to Timothy on the Mailing List |
| MutantTurkey | he doesn't use kde4 for development so there's a good chance he didn't even notie that conflict |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB |
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| mikehenry71655_ | hello |
| mikehenry71655_ | sorry emergency |
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| MutantTurkey | mikehenry71655: hey sorry hit a deadzone |
| mikehenry71655 | np |
| mikehenry71655 | areu drivin? |
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| Jota | hi! anyone? |
| Jota | ?? |
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| SlavekB | Jota: I am now busy - trying to solve a bug in KWord |
| Jota | ahh ok.. just 1 question... is there any date to the release of TDE R14?? |
| SlavekB | I would say that the date has not yet been determined. |
| SlavekB | But I hope soon will be ready 3.5.13.1. |
| Jota | do you know if IRC in Kopete will work again?? |
| Jota | and, by the way, thanks for your work!! |
| SlavekB | I just write from kopete ;) |
| Jota | I have your updates but kopete's irc does not work.... :o |
| SlavekB | I use as an IRC client just kopete. |
| SlavekB | What distribution? |
| Jota | debian squeeze |
| Jota | never worked since the 3.5.13 install |
| SlavekB | I also use a squeeze |
| SlavekB | And obviously with the IRC in Kopete I have no problem ;) |
| Jota | so you have aqueeze and works with you... so, the problem should be with my install... |
| SlavekB | How is it manifested? |
| Jota | it stays "loading..." forever |
| Jota | msn works, goggle works, only irc does not conect |
| Jota | so i'm not able to enter any room |
| SlavekB | And if you instead of list try to connect to a particular room? |
| Jota | the same... the option to select a room is not active |
| Jota | I will try to reinstall everything from zero when 3.5.13.1 gets out... I remember when 3.5.13 was released last year, I was not the only one with the same problem with kopete and irc |
| Jota | but if it works for you, then it must be a problem with my install... ;-) |
| SlavekB | I know that search rooms for me also works, but I use dialog to enter the name of a particular room - without a search. |
| Jota | for me that option in dialog is not active |
| SlavekB | I use it from the menu on the icon in the tray. |
| Jota | yes, that is waht I used also... when it was working, prior to 3.5.13 |
| Jota | when you think 3.5.13.1 will be released? |
| Jota | days... weeks...? :-) |
| SlavekB | I hope that days. |
| Jota | ah, great!!! there will be an official notice on the Trinity site, with install instructions?? |
| Jota | Ah, willl I be able to install 3.5.13.1 in wheezy?? |
| Jota | or is not recommended? |
| SlavekB | Tim will certainly give notice. |
| SlavekB | With Wheezy I not count yet. |
| Jota | ok! thank you! good work!! |
| Jota | bye now |
| SlavekB | bye |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 681 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=681 enhancement, P1, ---, humanreadable, RESOLVED FIXED, Add a KControl option/check box to show/not show the exiting "Saving Your Settings" dialog. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 990 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=990 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, ktechlab FTBFS: will not install previously installed file |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 861 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=861 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tqtinterface: tdegraphics FTBFS with qt3 version of tqobjdefs.h |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=920 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: avahi-tqt FTBFS |
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| Fresh_meat2 | http://www.youtube.com/v/ceePT8mOguM&autoplay=1 |
| Fresh_meat2 | I love it |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 920 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=920 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: avahi-tqt FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=946 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kstreamripper FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 994 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=994 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [kopete] now listen plugin works poorly |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: when is 3.5.13.1 due/ |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=790 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdemultimedia: audiofile.h configure errors |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 994 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=994 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [kopete] now listen plugin works poorly |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=388 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDESU Dialog Box Behavior |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 920 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=920 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: avahi-tqt FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 869 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=869 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, kwin: Implement Mac like window switching |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=694 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Help/Handbook files still reference KDE |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=905 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: More hidden breakage after doubtful migration to cmake |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=988 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kxdglauncher locale access broken for variable DOCUMENTS |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 597 from PATCHAVAIL to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=597 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, Build issue: tdebindings FTBFS on Ruby 1.9 without patches |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=859 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Kaffeine does not block screensaver |
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| michael_centos62 | Hi all, kmail problem. Anyone know where/how to move the kmail identities from kde4-kmail to trinity-kmail? All the messages copied over fine, but not identities :( |
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| michael_centos62 | pasting the answers to my questions so it's searchable on the irc log |
| michael_centos62 | migrate kmail identities: copy ~/.kde/share/config/emailidentities to ~/.trinity/share/config |
| michael_centos62 | migrate kmail messages/emails: copy ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail to ~/.trinity/share/apps/kmail |
| michael_centos62 | migrate kmail accounts: located in ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc sections [Account ##] and [Transport ##]. (suggestion is to manually recreate them, rather than copy and paste the sections, as no telling if KDE4-kmail syntax is valid with trinity-kmail syntax) |
| michael_centos62 | migrate kmail: helpful with other file locs. http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips |
| michael_centos62 | migrate kmail another tip: You can manually merge all your different machines' kmail directories (~/.kde/share/apps/kmail) into one and copy that to ~/.trinity/share/apps/kmail , trinity-kmail will then re-index them all once you (re)start it. |
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| MobileTurkey | on the road again... |
| SlavekB | MobileTurkey: For your information - I managed to solve the problem Kaffeine × screensaver |
| MobileTurkey | how so? |
| SlavekB | I found that in tdebase was not CMake support for xscreensaver. |
| SlavekB | I wrote this support and it works just as reliably as it used to be. |
| MobileTurkey | execellent |
| MobileTurkey | I like CMake |
| MobileTurkey | it works well and is clear |
| SlavekB | I also like CMake. |
| SlavekB | Although I teach it "on the fly". :) |
| MobileTurkey | lear on the fly |
| MobileTurkey | learn' |
| SlavekB | :D Of course, I learn it |
| SlavekB | Maybe I should learn English. ;) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1024 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1024 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, smb4k: does not find executables umount.cifs & smbumount |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1025 filed by nix-bugs@esperi.org.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1025 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Fix covariant return check |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1026 filed by nix-bugs@esperi.org.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1026 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konsole: meta key support |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1027 filed by nix-bugs@esperi.org.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1027 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Various build fixes |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1028 filed by nix-bugs@esperi.org.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1028 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, desktop background programs are reinvoked on every viewport switch |
| newbie999 | Hey, guys, what about Trinity for OpenSUSE distro ? |
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| Space_Man | hi newbie999, I don't know if Trinity is available for OpenSUSE |
| Space_Man | I vaguely remember that Xu_R was involved with OpenSUSE and trinity |
| Space_Man | maybe he will reply with some news |
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| Xu_R | Space_Man: heh, I stopped all my linux projects for like the past school year. :| |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 388 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=388 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, KDESU Dialog Box Behavior |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: >:| |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: are you still using tde? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: I am; I'm using Slavek's repo |
| MutantTurkey | pretty freaking stable |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I love you! |
| Xu_R | ikr. |
| Xu_R | anyway, brb, lunching. |
| MutantTurkey | have fun |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: :$ |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | I love your repository at least |
| SlavekB | ;) |
| MutantTurkey | I just see fixes and commits every day almiost |
| MutantTurkey | and it makes me happy to see someone is working |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Anyway, I have a solution for bug 657. Just a few adjustments and I can push it into git. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=657 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] Can't start KWord or KPresenter from T-Menu |
| MutantTurkey | i don't use kword |
| MutantTurkey | I can look at the patch if you'd like |
| SlavekB | I also do not use KWord ;) |
| SlavekB | But I wanted to correct the bug before release 3.5.13.1. |
| MutantTurkey | ofc |
| MutantTurkey | I am growing restless for the release |
| SlavekB | This was one of the last bugs that I wanted to have fixed. |
| SlavekB | I have yet to resolve the patches that I have from Bugzilla, but not yet in GIT. |
| SlavekB | It should be the last one before release. |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 994 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=994 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, [kopete] now listen plugin works poorly |
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| MutantTurkey | maththrules |
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| michael_centos62 | anyone know why trinity-kmail on centos 62 fails to check email with "Could not start process pop3" Claws checks it fine. |
| SlavekB | It may be a problem with SSL/TLS? Bug 809 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=809 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, no ssl in kmail or konqueror |
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| michael_centos62 | SlavekB: hmmm, seems possible, but I was trying a non-crypt connection (not that I'm a mail connection expert). When would that commit make it to the repos? |
| SlavekB | In v3.5.13-sru tree I have already included it. Now it depends on whether François wait for official release v3.5.13.1 or compile the package sooner. |
| SlavekB | Check whether the encryption settings that you have None or TLS. |
| michael_centos62 | SlavekB: set for either none or TLS, still get the same error :( |
| michael_centos62 | a "Check What the Server Supports" pops the error "Cound not read ." |
| SlavekB | michael_centos62: Appears something in .xsession-errors? |
| michael_centos62 | not sure where that log file would be on centos |
| SlavekB | In $HOME? |
| michael_centos62 | yeah, google is my friend :) |
| michael_centos62 | kmail isn't dumping errors to .xsession-errors :( |
| SlavekB | Try to run it from console if something does not show on error output. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1005 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1005 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, [Regression] DrKonqi fails to create backtraces |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 388 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=388 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDESU Dialog Box Behavior |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 946 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=946 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: kstreamripper FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 956 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=956 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, [Regression] Kdcop: Fails to run |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 946 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=946 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kstreamripper FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 956 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=956 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Kdcop: Fails to run |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 984 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=984 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Various proposed patches for TDE 3.5.13.1 |
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| AikiLinux | hello |
| AikiLinux | I have an issue with Trinity 10.10 having a mix of kde4 and kde3 packages and i want to clean it |
| Space_Man | use a soft damp cloth |
| Space_Man | and a non abrasive cleaning solution |
| AikiLinux | funny |
| Space_Man | :P |
| Space_Man | sorry I can't help you with your cleaning problem |
| AikiLinux | how can get around issues created by the ksmserver-trinity package ? |
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| mr_edgecase | I need help with trinity-desktop 3.5.4 *grin* |
| mr_edgecase | I cannot find out how to configure ksmserver |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 999 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=999 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: pykdeextensions contains hardcoded path for debian/ubuntu |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 210 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=210 critical, P2, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Programs crash when deleting all text in filter fields |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 871 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=871 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdeadmin FTBFS Against TQt3 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 871 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=871 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tdeadmin FTBFS Against TQt3 |
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| Z_God | I just updated to the latest nightlies |
| Z_God | loads of errors when running multiple problems |
| Z_God | including about the TDE filemanager not running |
| Z_God | ah Tim's mail calmed me down :) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 193 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=193 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, kxkb doesn't work |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 872 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=872 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tdesdk: cmake port FTBFS Against TQt3 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 783 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=783 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: Poppler support is always enabled in koffice/chalk build process |
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| SlavekB | ) |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1016 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1016 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tqca, tqca-tls packages won't build with 64-bit |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1017 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1017 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: python-tqt, python-trinity won't build with 64-bit |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 979 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=979 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, select buffer paste in kate/kwrite causing line wrap causes crash (X, qt3) |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 967 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=967 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KJSEmbed (as kjscmd) broken: DCOPInterface::publish or KTextEdit::setText |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 668 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=668 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, dual-head setup: kdm doesn't display the background image correctly |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 358 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=358 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Amarok 1.4 crashes when the Collection tab is clicked |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 534 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=534 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Widgets inside Kommander are not moved |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 541 as a duplicate of bug 697. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=541 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, print wizard missing drivers, postscript |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=697 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, print wizard missing drivers, postscript Ubuntu/NATTY |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 697 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=697 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, print wizard missing drivers, postscript Ubuntu/NATTY |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 194 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=194 major, P2, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Kopete Crash |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 703 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=703 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, KLauncher/DCOP issue persists a while after installation |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 259 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=259 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kompare does not always terminate properly, leaving the process running |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 513 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=513 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, KMail crashes on "Include this folder in mail checks" disable |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 553 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=553 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, quanta-trinity is unusable |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 578 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=578 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, media:/ doesn't show files, remounts unit |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1011 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1011 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, [REGRESSION] Default task manager shortcut ctrl+escape does not work anymore |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 941 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=941 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kmymoney: FTBFS when using --enable-pdf-doc |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 913 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=913 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Build issue: Kerberos support does not exist with any cmake converted package |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 259 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=259 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kompare does not always terminate properly, leaving the process running |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 657 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=657 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Can't start KWord or KPresenter from T-Menu |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1019 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1019 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [REGRESSION] Compose button does not work in Trinity applications |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 788 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=788 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tdemultimedia: Kaudiocreator won't build unless configure finds the cdda headers |
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| MutantTurkey | Trinity is getting included in LibreOffice 3.6 |
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| thistle | Is there a repo somewhere for Ubuntu 12.04 someplace? |
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| Fresh_meat2 | MutantTurkey : I was thinking about how to have an integrated office suite this morning, good timing |
| MutantTurkey | indeed |
| MutantTurkey | makes me happy |
| MutantTurkey | since Koffice stinks |
| MutantTurkey | i never liked it |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: I want compile trinity for precise pangolin. Anybody here uses ubuntu? |
| P-Chan | Why trinity don't compiled for ubuntu |
| P-Chan | ? |
| Fresh_meat2 | well, let's say it was a proof of concept like kde4 |
| Fresh_meat2 | P-Chan : I am an arch user |
| Fresh_meat2 | anyway what is your problem ? |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: I compile 3 packages sucefully on my life and I want try compile for ubuntu precise |
| Fresh_meat2 | yeah but what is the fail ? |
| Fresh_meat2 | s/what/where |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: I want need to change de directory of trinity to install? |
| P-Chan | ok bye |
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| Fresh_meat2 | wtf was that ? |
| SlavekB | resh_meat2: P-Chan is somewhat strange visitor... |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: howso? |
| MutantTurkey | oh lol |
| MutantTurkey | yes very stange |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: how is ubuntu precise going? |
| SlavekB | So far everything goes well. |
| SlavekB | I have successfully compiled: |
| MutantTurkey | wow cool |
| MutantTurkey | Trinity is doing so well and it makes me very happy |
| SlavekB | amarok, arts, gtk-qt-engine, gwenview, kaffeine, kdeaddons, kdeadmin, kdebase, kdeedu, kdegames, kdegraphics, kdelibs, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdetoys, kdeutils, kdiff3, kmymoney2, koffice, konversation, kpowersave, ktorrent, kuickshow, kvirc, qt-x11-free |
| SlavekB | Just this morning I sent a patch for fix KOffice bug. |
| MutantTurkey | one very bad thing about trinity is the terrible excess visually |
| MutantTurkey | for example look at konsole. it has whitespace around it, and then it is in it's own container |
| MutantTurkey | it just looks bad |
| Fresh_meat2 | In kde3 times I was using a crystal theme with fake transparancy |
| MutantTurkey | Fresh_meat2: how does that look? |
| Fresh_meat2 | it looked good |
| MutantTurkey | do you know about the problem i am describing? |
| MutantTurkey | let me take a screenshot |
| SlavekB | I use BII decoration and is very compact. |
| MutantTurkey | not what I am describing |
| MutantTurkey | this is part of the widgets on screen |
| MutantTurkey | ( i use laptop, which is also compact) |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: Fresh_meat2: Look http://i.imgur.com/R8AGc.png |
| MutantTurkey | look around the edges of konsole and konqueror at the bottom |
| MutantTurkey | its rather annoying to me ;p |
| Fresh_meat2 | ha I see |
| MutantTurkey | compared to the mac terminal to the right of it |
| MutantTurkey | yes - i use X11 over network on my mac :p |
| MutantTurkey | at work |
| Fresh_meat2 | hum I suppose it has somting to do with the default tqt widget theme |
| Fresh_meat2 | but I wonder if change it will be harmless |
| MutantTurkey | i have no idea |
| MutantTurkey | i assume it is the widget setup |
| MutantTurkey | haven't really looked into it |
| MutantTurkey | http://userbase.kde.org/images.userbase/8/8b/Konqueror-welcomepage-kde4.png |
| MutantTurkey | I do not like KDE4, and I do not like their glossy looks |
| MutantTurkey | but it does loo more streamlined |
| Fresh_meat2 | well I am xenifying my thinkpad |
| Fresh_meat2 | I will setup a dom for compiling tde for arch 64 |
| Fresh_meat2 | so I will be able to setup a tde on my desktop |
| Fresh_meat2 | and even try to hack it |
| MutantTurkey | which thinkydo you have? |
| Fresh_meat2 | edge e525 |
| MutantTurkey | x220 here |
| Fresh_meat2 | I have the fingerprint reader |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
| MutantTurkey | I didn't need it |
| MutantTurkey | it was like an extra 30 bucks |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| Fresh_meat2 | me neither |
| Fresh_meat2 | but I was curious if it could be used as a penisprint reader |
| MutantTurkey | wat lol |
| Fresh_meat2 | yes it was disappointing |
| Fresh_meat2 | I can't even use it to crypt my lvms |
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| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | I don't care for security |
| MutantTurkey | honestly I have nothing to hide ;p |
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| judgen | whoa! |
| judgen | I got a new error when loggin in. "DCOP Server not running" os somewhat like that. |
| judgen | how do i solve that? |
| judgen | it might have been daemon, but i can not copy and paste from the display manager, can i? |
| MutantTurkey | judgen: where did you get this error? |
| MutantTurkey | you can try manually starting dcop |
| MutantTurkey | but without a further error it would be difficult to figure out what went wrong |
| Fresh_meat2 | MutantTurkey : It was this theme http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13969 |
| Fresh_meat2 | http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=13969&file1=13969-1.jpg&file2=13969-2.jpg&file3=13969-3.jpg&name=Crystal |
| Fresh_meat2 | that version in particular |
| Fresh_meat2 | with other customizations |
| Fresh_meat2 | ie : extra thin panel on top |
| Fresh_meat2 | transparent |
| Fresh_meat2 | and |
| Fresh_meat2 | ... well I don't remember well |
| Fresh_meat2 | I remember how fast it was back to 2007 on my athlon X2 |
| Fresh_meat2 | (slightly OC ... +900 Mhz and a nforce5 failure) |
| Fresh_meat2 | but soon after I discovered KKKDE 4 and akonazy |
| Fresh_meat2 | D:< |
| Fresh_meat2 | and how they betrayed konkeror |
| judgen | MutantTurkey, at login |
| judgen | two error dialogues at login, and after klicking OK i am returned to the DM |
| judgen | MutantTurkey, it i start dcop, and log out.. will the dcop session end? |
| SlavekB | You have installed kgtk-qt3-trinity? |
| judgen | I am in another DM at the moment, but trinity worked before i updated and removed amarok. I have tried reinstalling amarok, but to no avail. |
| judgen | SlavekB, yes atleast once. Do i need it? |
| judgen | looking* yes |
| judgen | yes i have that installed |
| SlavekB | No, definitely get rid of it |
| judgen | why? |
| SlavekB | When installed in startkde is set LD_PRELOAD and that leads to crashes. |
| judgen | i do not question your experience, i just want to know why something have to be removed. |
| judgen | aaah |
| SlavekB | It's very hostile package :) |
| SlavekB | I must to remove the LD_PRELOAD from startkde... |
| judgen | do i have to do that manually? |
| judgen | I have now removed the package |
| judgen | i could just remove the entirety of the tde and kde ~/ folders as i haev all relevant settings backed up on my blades. |
| judgen | would that help? i mean before i relogg |
| judgen | but on the other hand, i am using ubuntu on my desktop.. i may as well blame myself. |
| judgen | brb lets try to relog =D |
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| SlavekB | judgen: welcome back :) |
| judgen | ok same problem, but the second error is also presented in MATE |
| judgen | ICEAuthority *something*somethin |
| judgen | in amiwm or awesome i do not have that problem. |
| judgen | SlavekB, thank you |
| judgen | i will try removing the .drmc and .ice* files |
| judgen | brb |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1016 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1016 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tqca, tqca-tls packages won't build with 64-bit |
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| judgen | yup that worked |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1029 filed by michael_temp1234@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1029 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, trinity-kmail "Could not start process pop3" |
| judgen | now i want to figure out a way to get polyester to work in TDE. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1016 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1016 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tqca, tqca-tls packages won't build with 64-bit |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1016 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1016 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tqca, tqca-tls packages won't build with 64-bit |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1016 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1016 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tqca, tqca-tls packages won't build with 64-bit |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 792 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=792 major, P5, ---, sh4dou, RESOLVED FIXED, Link Qt3 against unixODBC instead of obsolete iODBC |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 774 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=774 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Konqueror user agent spoofs are woefully out of date |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1016 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1016 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tqca, tqca-tls packages won't build with 64-bit |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 774 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=774 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror user agent spoofs are woefully out of date |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1016 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1016 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tqca, tqca-tls packages won't build with 64-bit |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 788 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=788 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdemultimedia: Kaudiocreator won't build unless configure finds the cdda headers |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1017 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1017 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: python-tqt, python-trinity won't build with 64-bit |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1027 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1027 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: Various build fixes |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1025 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1025 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Fix covariant return check |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 872 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=872 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdesdk: cmake port FTBFS Against TQt3 |
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| tbottu | 10julius@zgod.cjb.net changed the Component on bug 100 from system to tdewebdev. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=100 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Keyboard layout switcher does not work |
| Z_God | tbottu: oops, did I do that? |
| tbottu | Z_God: Error: "oops," is not a valid command. |
| tbottu | 10julius@zgod.cjb.net changed the Component on bug 100 from tdewebdev to system. |
| Z_God | apologies, that was not intentional |
| tbottu | 10julius@zgod.cjb.net changed the Component on bug 1019 from tdelibs to tdeadmin. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1019 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [REGRESSION] Compose button does not work in Trinity applications |
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| AikiLinux | Hi |
| AikiLinux | how can I configure Trinity not to start my wlan interface when resuming activity from suspended state ? |
| AikiLinux | or more to the point not to start it unless i ask for it specificlu ? |
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| Z_God | AikiLinux: Trinity itself doesn't manage any network interfaces |
| Z_God | you should refer to your distro's documentation |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1030 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1030 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Ark broken show filenames into real UTF-8 (Cyrillic) |
| tbottu | 10rom_as@oscada.org changed the Status on bug 1030 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1031 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1031 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmplayer: Screen saver control is broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1032 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1032 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmplayer: Pause shortcut is broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1033 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1033 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [koffice] Some templates are damaged |
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| tbottu | 10michael_temp1234@yahoo.com changed the Component on bug 1029 from tdepim to tdeedu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1029 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, trinity-kmail "Could not start process pop3" |
| Z_God | it seems there is something strange about the component field |
| Z_God | because it seems to be easily changed unintentionally |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | component field? |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: look at tbottu's messages |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| Z_God | seems I did it accidently twice even |
| Z_God | and now someone did it again |
| MutantTurkey | strange lol |
| Z_God | maybe we're pushing wrong buttons somehow |
| Z_God | but it seems kind of odd |
| MutantTurkey | or it might get default focus or somethin |
| Z_God | I'll watch it |
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| Z_God | and it seems the nightlies build server is stuck |
| Z_God | or there's a huge build going on |
| SlavekB | Nightly-builds has finished. Some unsuccessful. ;) |
| SlavekB | It runs only for armel. |
| Z_God | "A recent upload has resulted in 220 pending builds." |
| Z_God | it's been saying that for some time now |
| Z_God | SlavekB: do you know if it also takes a while for all packages to make it to the http server? |
| SlavekB | armel 10 212 jobs |
| Z_God | I have all updated installed now, but I'm still experiencing issues which according to Tim were probably because the versions were not in line yet |
| Z_God | updates* |
| SlavekB | Night compilation could begin prior to making repairs. |
| SlavekB | Some fixes can be delayed for another compilation. |
| Z_God | hmm |
| Z_God | but that would mean the compilation happens with an inconsistent git |
| Z_God | and people are not committing things properly (commits that depend on each other should be in a single commit for this) |
| Z_God | ah Tim responded.. |
| Z_God | seems I need to report bugs.... |
| SlavekB | Compile some time running. All this time can be further changes in the GIT |
| Z_God | SlavekB: sure, but in this case, the situation is a bit different, I understand some big path changes went in that depend on each other |
| SlavekB | Z_God: However, in the information about the package can be seen, from what GIT state was compiled: Automated git build for _git_hash_ |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | SlavekB: where is that info exactly? |
| Z_God | I just did and apt-cache show on tdelibs-trinity |
| Z_God | but I don't see it |
| SlavekB | /usr/share/doc/_package_/changelog.Debian.gz |
| SlavekB | Or /opt/trinity/share/doc/_package_/changelog.Debian.gz |
| Z_God | 627408cd7ab2cfb452464da9295691c196ace725 |
| SlavekB | (Y) |
| Z_God | now a list of hashes |
| Z_God | with all the fixes that went in per hash |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/ |
| SlavekB | Or http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/ |
| SlavekB | Or enter the hash id directly into url ;) |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/commit/?id=627408cd7ab2cfb452464da9295691c196ace725 |
| Z_God | seems nothing significant went in |
| Z_God | related to these bugs |
| Z_God | or there should be more clear commit messages ;) |
| Z_God | I'll just report the bugs as Tim suggests |
| Z_God | they are also here in case you're interested: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::8664 |
| SlavekB | On http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/log/ it is seen that since not much changes. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1035 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1035 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [REGRESSION] Errors about TDE's media manager not running |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1036 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1036 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [REGRESSION] Errors loading different file list views |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1037 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1037 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [REGRESSION] Konqueror crashes when opening the navigation panel |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1038 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1038 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [REGRESSION] ~ is not accepted as input anymore in a location bar or when pressing alt+f2 |
| MutantTurkey | bugs bgyz bugz |
| SlavekB | :) |
| MutantTurkey | aren't those all relatedto the XDG thing? |
| Z_God | I don't know |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1039 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1039 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [REGRESSION] alt+f2, does not allow executing scripts from ~/bin anymore |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1038 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1038 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [REGRESSION] ~ is not accepted as input anymore in a location bar or when pressing alt+f2 |
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| Z_God | systemsettings crashes here, but I'm unable to get a proper backtrace |
| Z_God | anyone here any idea? |
| Z_God | is there a dbg package I can install for it? |
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| rsezov | hello everybody |
| rsezov | I'm looking for some help with setting trinity desktop to turn off monitor power management |
| rsezov | the module in control center asks for the root password and after I give it, the CPU goes to 100% and it never comes up |
| rsezov | tried this from command line too with sux and the kcmshell command |
| rsezov | I'm on Debian Squeeze |
| rsezov | anybody have any ideas? |
| SlavekB | Trinity 3.5.13 | 3.5.13.1 | nightly-builds? |
| rsezov | 3.5.13; whatever's in the stable repo |
| rsezov | I run a screen saver slide show and don't want the monitor to turn off |
| SlavekB | Follow the instructions here: |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis |
| rsezov | this is a brand new install, btw |
| SlavekB | Here are preparing 3.5.13.1 |
| MutantTurkey | rsezov: power management? |
| MutantTurkey | howhich module is that? |
| MutantTurkey | which' |
| MutantTurkey | the Display & Config one? |
| rsezov | yeah; it's the display one. I'm not at that particular machine right now, but I can get there |
| MutantTurkey | don't worry about it right now, first upgrade to slavek's repository. |
| MutantTurkey | if the bug is persistent, get a backtrack and a bug report |
| rsezov | okay; I'm not using Ubuntu on this machine |
| rsezov | looks like that PPA is just for Ubuntu? |
| SlavekB | Yes - Debian and Ubuntu. |
| SlavekB | What distribution do you have? |
| rsezov | on that machine, it's Debian Squeeze |
| rsezov | ok, got it |
| rsezov | my bad |
| SlavekB | I have too Debian Squeeze :) |
| rsezov | so do I use this in place of the Trinity repos, or in addition to? |
| SlavekB | addition |
| rsezov | okay; will try it |
| rsezov | thanks! |
| SlavekB | I have to go. Will you let me know then if the problem persists even with 3.5.13.1? |
| rsezov | certainly. Thanks for your help! |
| SlavekB | Warning - it will download slowly. |
| SlavekB | bye |
| rsezov | ttyl; thanks! |
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| n4mu | Was wondering about trinity and debian wheezy, is the install procedure the same as squeeze (and just s/squeeze/wheezy/) ? |
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| anonymous_user | A little encouragement from last year: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11168058&postcount=24 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 872 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=872 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdesdk: cmake port FTBFS Against TQt3 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1033 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1033 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [koffice] Some templates are damaged |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 872 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=872 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tdesdk: cmake port FTBFS Against TQt3 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1025 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1025 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Fix covariant return check |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 872 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=872 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdesdk: cmake port FTBFS Against TQt3 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 872 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=872 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdesdk: cmake port FTBFS Against TQt3 |
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| Z_God | hacked my starttde script to perform the xdg changes correct, but most bugs I had are still there |
| tbottu | 10julius@zgod.cjb.net marked bug 1037 as a duplicate of bug 892. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1037 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, [REGRESSION] Konqueror crashes when opening the navigation panel |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=892 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Address further potential conflicts with KDE4 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 709 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=709 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, A proposed KDE3 profile directory migration tool |
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| Strangelv | :: notices that a large copy and paste on a big table locks up Konqueror in 13.1 |
| * Strangelv wonders if listing Konqueror in the minuing system under Internet shou/ld be considered a bug at this point | |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | after upgradign nightly-build I lost the password agent for kmail. I cannot remember where one enters the line that configures it |
| DexterF | ssh-something in whatever file |
| DexterF | pointers? |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 936 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=936 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [kcontrol] Wrong (unnecessary) symlink 025_logitechmouse.rules |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1031 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1031 normal, P1, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, kmplayer: Screen saver control is broken |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1030 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1030 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Ark broken show filenames into real UTF-8 (Cyrillic) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1040 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1040 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdenetwork and amarok FTBFS with GIT commit 477d071b |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1041 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1041 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdesdk/kbugbuster FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1042 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1042 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: Reversing patch for pytdeextensions will cause build failures in some distros |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 946 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=946 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: kstreamripper FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1043 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1043 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add man pages for Trinity apps |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1044 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1044 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kwriteconfig provides no mechanism to delete a key or key group |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1032 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1032 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kmplayer: Keyboard shortcuts are broken |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1045 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1045 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kate and kwrite versions are not credible with new Rx.y.z version scheme |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1045 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1046 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1046 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, All icons do not update when changing icon theme |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1047 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1047 trivial, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Remove kuickshow from applications source tree |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1048 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1048 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Unexpected Q_LLONG messages |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1049 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1049 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Fifteen Pieces (tdetoys) is all but impossible to play |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1050 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdebase FTBFS against Qt3 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1051 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1051 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kiconedit undo does not work with paste |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 973 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=973 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kpowersave: Starts with each new session despite opposite configuration |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1052 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1052 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Fifteenpieces About dialog displays a KDE3 branded image |
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| bris | hi |
| bris | I would like to know whether the build for ubuntu 12.04 is completed or not. Any one please share some information.. |
| bris | :-) |
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| Fresh_meat2 | bris : I am not sure but it seem that there are ppa for the git verson somewhere |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: thank you for working hard on 3.5.13.1 :-) |
| MutantTurkey | succesfully using it on my desktop |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I am glad that everything works as it should |
| MutantTurkey | its so stable! |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I'm trying to solve the few patches that are not yet in GIT - and it should be the last to 3.5.13.1. |
| MutantTurkey | I saw your email |
| SlavekB | For example, the "[klaptodaemon] removes dpkg commands" is a mystery to me how it actually works. |
| SlavekB | Somehow escapes me, where is defined by the "helper" - what it actually is. |
| SlavekB | Ah - I see it - the helper is also in the previous command - so it must work :) |
| Fresh_meat2 | Ha that's nice to hear |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I will look |
| SlavekB | It seems that I believe the inclusion of patches for KMail and klaptodaemon is needed. :) |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 452 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=452 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Gwenview gvdirpart.pngs corrupted |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1053 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1053 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Gwenview: Crashes when attempting to parse an svg file |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1030 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1030 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Ark broken show filenames into real UTF-8 (Cyrillic) |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1030 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1030 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Ark broken show filenames into real UTF-8 (Cyrillic) |
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| * Strangelv is having fun with an Oneiric reinstall trying to get TDE 31.1 to work fully from a minimal Ubuntu Server install. He can't find a handy list of package groups and depedancies on the site, and hasn't gotten audio to work | |
| * Strangelv discovers how easy it is to accidentalyl install Nepomuk | |
| Strangelv | "something called art-trinity was one of the things not installed by the instructions on our website |
| Strangelv | "arts-trinity |
| Strangelv | "unable to start arts with realtime priority because artswrapper is missing or disabled" may be a new error message as it shows up literalyl nowhere according o a selection of major search engines including Google |
| Strangelv | Okay, I already had it installed and needed to run it with kdesu -- get the same error message though, even after restarting pulseaudio again... |
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| Strangelv | "Hello |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| Strangelv | "Do we have a list of our metapackagevs anywhere? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't think so |
| Strangelv | working on areinstall from a minimal server installation. I'm still missing a few things |
| Strangelv | kdegames-trinity is one of them |
| MutantTurkey | kdenetwork-trinity for example |
| MutantTurkey | kdebase |
| MutantTurkey | kdelibs |
| Strangelv | "kdenetwork is one of the ones I was still missing |
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| Strangelv | "also konversation is inside a metapackage and so is kedit, but I have them because I dirctyl installed them |
| Strangelv | "Hello |
| Strangelv | I suspect I may also be missing some xorg related stuff. Still tyring to get audio to work -- although one of my primary objctives was a success -- I can now run Inkscape again |
| Strangelv | Kind of an extreme solution for getting Inkscape to work, but my ttempts to get a newer kernel were giving me bad side effects |
| Strangelv | Thank you for thinking of knetwork-trinity |
| Strangelv | Are we the upstream for kpovmodeler? |
| MutantTurkey | sorry |
| MutantTurkey | I am not even pay attention |
| MutantTurkey | :-P |
| MutantTurkey | Inkscape = crapppolah |
| Strangelv | What do you use instead? |
| Strangelv | :: discovers kdeaddons-trinity which he hopes will fill in some blanks |
| Strangelv | Xara LX was really easy and fun to use until I discovered I was basically locked in no its proprietary formats |
| MutantTurkey | I got sick of inkscape |
| MutantTurkey | so I just avoid svg |
| MutantTurkey | it's performance is terrible |
| Strangelv | Do you do any vector graphics? |
| * Strangelv 's primary application, admittedly, is political signs | |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | I do not really |
| MutantTurkey | just when I need it |
| Strangelv | I must admit I've been steering moer and moer towards vector. I wish I'd surmounted the learning curve years earlier than I did |
| MutantTurkey | it is nice but the applkications for linux are crap |
| Strangelv | It would help to find ways to improve the quality of them |
| Strangelv | We also need to not dismiss the importance of MS Windows support for them as well |
| Strangelv | Applications are our gateway drug -- when the user can switch over to Linux and continue to use most of the same applications they're used to we have a very good chance of snagging them |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 756 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=756 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror: Does not update file pane with file changes |
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| unkn-error | hello. I created a folder in /home/error/Downloads/git/ and |
| unkn-error | there I did as root " git clone --recursive http://anonymous@scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde " |
| unkn-error | that was some time ago, abut 1 month I assume, |
| unkn-error | now I did as root " git pull --verbose " for updating |
| unkn-error | after the update is finish |
| unkn-error | where do I have to " cd /home/error/Downloads/tde/ make install clean" |
| unkn-error | http://pastebin.com/cp5dULNd |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 756 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=756 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror: Does not update file pane with file changes |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1054 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1054 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: soundkonverter FTBFS without --with-extra-includes |
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| tbottu | 10trin@3111skyline.com changed the Status on bug 979 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=979 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, select buffer paste in kate/kwrite causing line wrap causes crash (X, qt3) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1055 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1055 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, On some pages Konqueror very like crashes |
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| MutantTurkey | apple sucks. |
| MutantTurkey | THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE SEQ COMMAND |
| MutantTurkey | WTF' |
| Fresh_meat2 | MutantTurkey : they have jot instead |
| MutantTurkey | thats retarded |
| MutantTurkey | why can't they just be normal |
| Fresh_meat2 | cause they are BSDead faggots :P |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1056 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1056 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: soundkonverter FTBFS with mp4v2 support |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 967 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=967 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KJSEmbed (as kjscmd) broken: DCOPInterface::publish or KTextEdit::setText |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 967 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=967 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KJSEmbed (as kjscmd) broken: DCOPInterface::publish or KTextEdit::setText |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1057 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1057 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ark: Dialogs are non standard |
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| Fresh_meat2 | hey guys |
| Fresh_meat2 | there something interesting here : http://www.kdab.com/automated-porting-from-qt-4-to-qt-5/ |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1058 filed by than@ngothan.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1058 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kicker spawns many processes by calling kicker-3.4-reverseLayout |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1059 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1059 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Akregator: Settings menu order inconsistent with other Trinity apps |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1060 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1060 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KWrite: Settings menu order and naming inconsistent with other Trinity apps |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1061 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1061 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Poppler API change causes FTBFS for tdegraphics |
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| MutantTurkey | HEY Xu_R |
| MutantTurkey | he'y |
| MutantTurkey | hey' |
| MutantTurkey | wow |
| MutantTurkey | cant type |
| Xu_R | o.o |
| Xu_R | hello to you too lol |
| MutantTurkey | how ya been? |
| MutantTurkey | done school hopefully? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: yea. I'm at an internship right now. :D |
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| MutantTurkey | that's awesome |
| MutantTurkey | I am too |
| MutantTurkey | well we start monday |
| Xu_R | nice! :D |
| Xu_R | where at? |
| jmg | Hi all! |
| jmg | what is the status of 3.5.13.1? it is released already? |
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| jmg | ??? |
| jmg | Hi all!what is the status of 3.5.13.1? it is released already? |
| Xu_R | no, 3.5.13.1 isn't out yet. we're having a meeting next for a status update. |
| Xu_R | although if you use Ubuntu, Slavek's repo has lots of these updates already. |
| jmg | ah ok!! any timeline for the release?? |
| jmg | weeks? months? |
| Xu_R | jmg: not yet, but we'll hopefully be establishing one next week |
| jmg | days? ;) |
| Xu_R | most likely weeks for 3.5.13.1. |
| jmg | ok!! |
| jmg | thanks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1062 filed by michael_temp1234@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1062 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMail Filter Rules not matching partials correctly |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1061 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1061 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Poppler API change causes FTBFS for tdegraphics |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1063 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1063 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, #error "Only <glib.h> can be included directly." |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1064 filed by ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1064 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Karbon functionality and UI improvements needed |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1065 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1065 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kbfx FTBFS and fails to build help handbook |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 833 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=833 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: some png files in non-core programs are broken |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 837 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=837 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Some png files in tdebindings are broken |
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| MutantTurkey | mornin |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
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| calamari | hi. I'm curious if the "Low Disk Space - KDE Daemon" window I'm seeing is part of Trinity or something from KDE 4. The reason I ask, is because the window is nonfunctional (clicking anything inside the window or even trying to close the window doesn't work), and when I xkill it, it also takes out the "Storage Media" view. |
| calamari | did a before and after ps listing, it looks like this is what got killed: kded [kdeinit] --new-startup |
| calamari | "which kded" says: /opt/trinity/bin/kded .. so it appears this is in Trinity. Guess I answered my own question! |
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| calamari | how can I determine the SVN version of my install? I installed via the ubuntu packages |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1066 filed by trinity@kidsquid.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1066 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Cannot interact with the low disk space warning window, it is frozen |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1066 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1066 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Cannot interact with the low disk space warning window, it is frozen |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1067 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1067 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror: Tab popup context menu does not include Move Tab Left/Right options |
| tbottu | 10trin@3111skyline.com changed the Status on bug 1016 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1016 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: tqca, tqca-tls packages won't build with 64-bit |
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| cpuobsessed | how do i enable tap-to-click on my touchpad |
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| SlavekB | cpuobsessed: to your xorg.conf add following Section "InputClass" Identifier "touchpad catchall" Driver "synaptics" MatchIsTouchpad "on" Option "TapButton" "1" Option "TapButton" "2" Option "TapButton" "3" EndSection |
| cpuobsessed | I have no xorg.conf |
| SlavekB | cpuobsessed: see http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=347944#p348776 |
| SlavekB | If you do not have xorg.conf, you can create a new one - a small, containing just this. |
| cpuobsessed | ah yes, running Fedora 17 |
| cpuobsessed | i remember reading that somewhere |
| cpuobsessed | i'll just stick that in autorun |
| SlavekB | cpuobsessed: I have tried on my machine the little xorg.conf |
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| MutantTurkey | you probably don't need one |
| MutantTurkey | isn't it automatically figured out at this point? |
| MutantTurkey | oh sorry |
| MutantTurkey | I didn't read the whole conv :p |
| SlavekB | Ouch! I ran into a problem when I'll in Squeeze a reboot or shutdown from kdm. |
| SlavekB | kdm_greet forever waiting for a lock :( |
| SlavekB | In Precise it works correctly. |
| MutantTurkey | also the k lock doesn't close when I end my session. |
| MutantTurkey | and konversation goes to 100% cpu usages when i end my X session instead of closing cleanly |
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| SlavekB | With the end of the session I'm not noticing problems. |
| SlavekB | Even with a reboot, if it is initiated from a running session. |
| SlavekB | Only if restart / shutdown is initialized from kdm. |
| MutantTurkey | this is only over the network sorry |
| MutantTurkey | for example - ssh into it remotely with X11 forwarding, and unplug your cable |
| MutantTurkey | instead of timeing out and terminating, it just goes 100% |
| SlavekB | hmm, interesting. |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| SlavekB | Can I use dbg to find what kdm_greet trying? |
| SlavekB | In the strace I see just that waiting for the mutex. |
| MutantTurkey | you could debug it with gdb |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I do not know how to use dbg :'( |
| MutantTurkey | gdb or dbg? |
| SlavekB | gdb |
| SlavekB | sorry for typo |
| SlavekB | Reading symbols from /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqxim.so...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqxim.so...done.(no debugging symbols found)...done.Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqxim.so__lll_lock_wait () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/lowlevellock.S:136136 ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/lowlevellock.S: No such file or directory. in ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/ |
| SlavekB | .S |
| SlavekB | I learn a little :) |
| SlavekB | #0 __lll_lock_wait () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/lowlevellock.S:136#1 0x00007fe19b426179 in _L_lock_953 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0#2 0x00007fe19b425f9b in __pthread_mutex_lock (mutex=0x2282df0) at pthread_mutex_lock.c:61#3 0x00007fe19e9c9bf3 in _XLockDisplay (dpy=0x2284af0) at ../../src/locking.c:458#4 0x00007fe19e9be25a in XFreeCursor (dpy=0x2282df0, cursor=6291498) at ../../src/FreeCurs.c:38#5 0x00007fe19f19a425 in ~QCurso |
| SlavekB | rg=<value optimized out>) at kernel/qcursor_x11.cpp:90#6 0x00007fe19f19a59c in ~QCursor (this=<value optimized out>, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at kernel/qcursor_x11.cpp:282#7 0x00007fe19f19a5d4 in __tcf_0 () at kernel/qcursor_x11.cpp:104#8 0x00007fe19c968995 in __cxa_finalize (d=0x7fe19f95ebc0) at cxa_finalize.c:56#9 0x00007fe19f17ff56 in __do_global_dtors_aux () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3#10 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () |
| MutantTurkey | can you paste that |
| MutantTurkey | it is hard to read here |
| SlavekB | I'll test whether the freezes still in the same place. |
| SlavekB | Confirmed - always stuck in the same place. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | whats the problem though? |
| SlavekB | Destructor ~QCursor calls destructor ~QCursorData. |
| SlavekB | He calls XFreeCursor in which it will hang on _XLockDisplay. |
| MutantTurkey | pastebin please |
| MutantTurkey | it's hard to read |
| SlavekB | http://pastebin.com/X2TVAGNf |
| MutantTurkey | so what happens? |
| MutantTurkey | it hangs? |
| MutantTurkey | it seems to be anx11 bug though no? |
| MutantTurkey | I mean Qt3 bug |
| MutantTurkey | can you get a higher stack trace? |
| MutantTurkey | that is only up to 10 |
| SlavekB | Yes, it will hang. |
| MutantTurkey | well I have no idea |
| SlavekB | Stack does not give me more. |
| MutantTurkey | you are typing "bt" right? |
| SlavekB | yes |
| MutantTurkey | or whatever |
| MutantTurkey | backtrace full |
| SlavekB | bt or info stack |
| MutantTurkey | backtrace full |
| SlavekB | I tried it yet on the other test machine, and too only 10. |
| SlavekB | http://pastebin.com/k7jcFYpP |
| SlavekB | The process X is already finished, but kdm_greet hanging. |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| SlavekB | On the test machine with Precise it works fine. |
| MutantTurkey | is it an X11 bug then? |
| SlavekB | There must be a way to prevent this. |
| SlavekB | Shutdown / restart from a running session is ok. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1068 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1068 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdm_greet hangs on reboot/shutdown from kdm |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 872 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=872 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: tdesdk: cmake port FTBFS Against TQt3 |
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| tbottu | 10trin@3111skyline.com changed the Status on bug 1016 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1016 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tqca, tqca-tls packages won't build with 64-bit |
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| curiousguyiscuri | Hi there |
| curiousguyiscuri | just a fast question : Are there any working wheezy packages yet? I don't have a debian machine actually. I'd really like to know |
| curiousguyiscuri | i can see tdebase-trinity in nightly, does this mean yes? |
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| samelian | hello people |
| samelian | I need a native english speaker :) |
| samelian | I must to describe something pretty complicated |
| samelian | and i'm not sure that I explained clear enough |
| samelian | Xu_R: ping |
| Xu_R | I'm here |
| Xu_R | (for once ;)) |
| samelian | hehe, please help me |
| Xu_R | sure |
| samelian | hang on, I need to publish the text somewhere |
| curiousguyiscuri | n8 |
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| samelian | Xu_R: http://thel.ro/polkit.txt |
| Xu_R | samelian: your english is almost pristine. That should be pretty good :) |
| samelian | are you sure? :) |
| Xu_R | yes... It seems fine to me. nothing that could possibly impede meaning, unless people really don't understand english >.> |
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| samelian | aha :) |
| samelian | thanks |
| Xu_R | np |
| samelian | Xu_R: for the record, "I missed" or "I'm missed"? |
| Xu_R | I missed |
| Xu_R | you got it right :) |
| samelian | aha, thx |
| samelian | I hope that pretty soon we will have a polkit agent for kde3 and trinity |
| Xu_R | :D that would be great! |
| samelian | unfortunately, polkit documentation is sux |
| Xu_R | It does :/ |
| samelian | the qt4 version of polkit support is based on libpolkitagent |
| samelian | but we can't do the same thing because Qt3 does not support glib loop event |
| samelian | so, i'm limited to pure dbus calls |
| Xu_R | :/ |
| Xu_R | bbl |
| argv_turk | hey you guys :-) |
| argv_turk | polkit sucks |
| argv_turk | samelian: I have great english :p |
| samelian | hehe |
| argv_turk | seems that it not receive the authorization from polkit. |
| argv_turk | instead |
| argv_turk | it seems that is does not recieve the authorization from polkit |
| argv_turk | alsooooo glib sucks |
| samelian | well, we must to live with they :) |
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| argv_turk | what are the benefits of polkit? |
| samelian | argv_turk: an unpriviledged application can communicate to priviledged |
| argv_turk | I see |
| samelian | for example, you can mount a partition being regular user |
| argv_turk | right |
| argv_turk | which you can also do regularly if you just setup your permissions correctly :-) |
| samelian | well, this is not possibile everytime on desktop world |
| samelian | mounting is just an example |
| argv_turk | because linux was not written for idiots... and now it is forcing to be used by idiots |
| argv_turk | I know it is an example |
| argv_turk | allowing users to do authorized things is just like allowing a user to be authorized |
| argv_turk | i dunno |
| samelian | actually, seems that polkit want to know that you are a local user |
| samelian | because it not ask you for root password |
| argv_turk | I see |
| samelian | actually it not asking you about password at all |
| argv_turk | that does not seem secure |
| samelian | for example, an auth dialog can ask you: "Are you mutankturkey"? |
| samelian | if you will respond yes, is enough :) |
| samelian | well, the helper who autorize you to do this is suided |
| samelian | so, is pretty safe |
| argv_turk | how is that safe at all? |
| argv_turk | what does that even do? |
| samelian | is safe because the root decided to autenticate you in this way |
| argv_turk | which is exactly the same as setting up unix sudo permissions properly |
| samelian | of course, a sane helper don't do this |
| samelian | but use shadow or pam authentication |
| argv_turk | if your permissions are set right (for example permissions to modify backlight or cpu frequency) you don't need to auth |
| argv_turk | for example |
| samelian | but maybe your computer is used by more than one person |
| argv_turk | yes |
| argv_turk | so you set a group "users" and "admins" and such |
| samelian | yes |
| argv_turk | unix permissions are very flexible ( I know because we manage a server with hundreds of people) |
| samelian | polkit support this too |
| argv_turk | so basically policy kit is allowing us to do... what we already do? |
| argv_turk | aka reinventing the wheel |
| argv_turk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinventing_the_wheel |
| samelian | I think polkit is more granular |
| samelian | is more like sudo |
| argv_turk | it is just like sudo... |
| argv_turk | almost exactly it seems. |
| samelian | however, is more easily to develop desktop apps |
| samelian | because you don't care about authorizations |
| argv_turk | you do not need password authorization with sudo |
| argv_turk | you can set it up to allow users to do certain actions without sudo access for example |
| argv_turk | all i am saying is this: policykit, along with everything else in the linux desktop, is reinventing stuff that already existed |
| argv_turk | it seemst to go in waves |
| argv_turk | some apps come along, then they reinvent new ones, and the newere ones come and replace the last ones |
| argv_turk | and in the end? all do the same things. |
| samelian | more or less :) |
| samelian | actually I think polkit is dedicated to be used with apps which communicate via dbus |
| argv_turk | another generation of older IPC mechanisms... |
| samelian | in my opinion, dbus is great invention |
| argv_turk | yes dbus is good, but it is not anything new |
| argv_turk | :-) |
| samelian | is not, of course |
| argv_turk | i would prefer a file based approach actually |
| samelian | but, unlike dcop, is desktop agnostic |
| argv_turk | like plan9 operating system does |
| argv_turk | yes that is true |
| argv_turk | there are earlier implemenations than even dcop |
| samelian | corba, ofc |
| samelian | or even M$ OLE |
| argv_turk | i gotta roll |
| argv_turk | cya later :-) |
| samelian | bye |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 851 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=851 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdebase: splash image branding issues |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1045 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1045 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kate and kwrite versions are not credible with new Rx.y.z version scheme |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 843 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=843 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Tools provided by Qt3 conflict with ones from Qt4 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 783 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=783 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Poppler support is always enabled in koffice/chalk build process |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1050 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdebase FTBFS against Qt3 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 871 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=871 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdeadmin FTBFS Against TQt3 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1069 filed by sin@rulinux.net.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1069 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KPowersave 100% CPU usage |
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| samelian | Xu_R: ping |
| Xu_R | pong |
| samelian | I need you help, again :) |
| samelian | if you have few minutes, please review my response |
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| samelian | http://paste.lug.ro/131174 |
| samelian | David Zeuthen make me crazy :) |
| MutantTurkey | heh |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: look to my reply |
| MutantTurkey | in a meeting |
| samelian | http://paste.lug.ro/131174 |
| samelian | aha, later then |
| samelian | you are not at school anymore? |
| Xu_R | samelian: fixed few things, nothing too major: http://hastebin.com/raw/lonijisehi |
| samelian | thx |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 892 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=892 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Address further potential conflicts with KDE4 |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1050 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: tdebase FTBFS against Qt3 |
| Fresh_meat2 | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyNzI |
| MutantTurkey | YES i SEE THAT LINK |
| MutantTurkey | ol cpas |
| MutantTurkey | lol caps' |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: that is interesting |
| MutantTurkey | but why does it depend on glib. |
| MutantTurkey | strange |
| samelian | developer choice :) |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: yes i know |
| MutantTurkey | but as part of the freedesktop.org project |
| MutantTurkey | it should be very focused on interoperability between desktops... |
| samelian | this is dbus purpose |
| MutantTurkey | aye |
| samelian | I hate when someone force me to use a tollkit |
| samelian | which I don't know it, actually |
| MutantTurkey | glib isn't a toolkit though |
| MutantTurkey | it's just a giant bloated lib |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: but I have some new bad news about polkit :) |
| MutantTurkey | what? |
| samelian | we will need a js engine to use it :) |
| samelian | hang on |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: read here |
| samelian | http://davidz25.blogspot.ro/2012/06/authorization-rules-in-polkit.html |
| samelian | soon we will need visual basic to run linux :D |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | that seems to be the trend |
| tbottu | 10sin@rulinux.net.ru changed the Status on bug 1069 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1069 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, KPowersave 100% CPU usage |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I just read your mail |
| MutantTurkey | so very strange |
| MutantTurkey | I do not know why :-[ |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: How is it manifested? |
| MutantTurkey | i updated. |
| MutantTurkey | now kdesktop crashes |
| MutantTurkey | when i try and configure the settings. |
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| SlavekB | In the Control Center? |
| SlavekB | Or simply right-click on the desktop? |
| SlavekB | It's weird. Although I uploaded a lot of new packages, but none related to kdebase. |
| MutantTurkey | right cick |
| MutantTurkey | and konsole is weird as well. |
| SlavekB | And none of my machines have not noticed problems. |
| MutantTurkey | now i do not update every day |
| MutantTurkey | so it could have been a while |
| MutantTurkey | unfortunately though dpkg does not tell you the last version |
| SlavekB | Do you have current kdelibs? |
| MutantTurkey | i have current now |
| MutantTurkey | let me check again |
| SlavekB | kdelibs is latest ax8. |
| MutantTurkey | i have ax16 |
| SlavekB | kdebase is ax16, kdelibs is ax8 |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| SlavekB | If you updated the qt3, but kdelibs not, it can be a problem. |
| SlavekB | See bug 812 :) |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=812 blocker, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, krdc crashes with SIGABRT |
| MutantTurkey | everything is "up to date" |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Can you try to send a backtrace? |
| MutantTurkey | i can |
| MutantTurkey | http://paste.kde.org/508520/ |
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| SlavekB | When you updated, there was also qt3? Or qt3 was during latest updates unchanged? |
| MutantTurkey | i don't know |
| MutantTurkey | sorry |
| MutantTurkey | I don't keep track |
| MutantTurkey | everything is now updated though |
| SlavekB | You have aptitude.log? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1070 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1070 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdebindings FTBFS with ruby 1.9.3 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1071 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1071 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Shutdown/Restart options missing when using GDM |
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| tbottu | 10julius@zgod.cjb.net changed the Resolution on bug 1037 from DUPLICATE to INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1037 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, [REGRESSION] Konqueror crashes when opening the navigation panel |
| tbottu | 10julius@zgod.cjb.net changed the Status on bug 1038 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1038 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, [REGRESSION] ~ is not accepted as input anymore in a location bar or when pressing alt+f2 |
| tbottu | 10julius@zgod.cjb.net changed the Status on bug 1036 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1036 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, [REGRESSION] Errors loading different file list views |
| tbottu | 10julius@zgod.cjb.net changed the Status on bug 1035 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1035 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, [REGRESSION] Errors about TDE's media manager not running |
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| schreiberstein | he |
| schreiberstein | hey |
| schreiberstein | is it normal that the trinity repository is that slow? i'm downloading trinity nightlys with 7 kb/s -> 30 kb/s. is there no faster mirror? Why is the server that slow? |
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| argv_turk | yes |
| argv_turk | schreiberstein: yes |
| argv_turk | do it at night, and leave it honestly |
| argv_turk | there are several mirrors but they are under load I am assuming, i've seen rates from 250+ to .5kbs |
| schreiberstein | oh man... that sucks |
| schreiberstein | is the server slow because it builds the nightlys? |
| SlavekB | If your download does not run from the mirror, but from the primary server, so this is slow. |
| schreiberstein | yeah it does |
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| schreiberstein | seriously, the trinity project should get a faster server. even their main website is slow as hell. :-/ guess that's just a money-problem |
| argv_turk | actually it has to do with Tim's isp |
| argv_turk | where he lives they don't have very good internet services offered even to businesses |
| argv_turk | we've had this discussion many a time |
| schreiberstein | is he hosting the server at home? |
| argv_turk | yes |
| argv_turk | it's a large server though and hosting it online is not a good solution |
| argv_turk | because of the massive amount of bandwidth required |
| argv_turk | and storage space. |
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| schreiberstein | so, why not place it in a server farm? backbone don't know the word |
| MutantTurkey | he runs a server farm |
| MutantTurkey | basically |
| MutantTurkey | he runs our build cluster |
| schreiberstein | yeah. but why don'T he put it inside a isp data center? |
| schreiberstein | would be much faster. or is it just too pricy? |
| MutantTurkey | $$$$ |
| MutantTurkey | the amount is ridiculous |
| schreiberstein | :-( |
| schreiberstein | well.. at least my (slow) trinity download just succeeded and it's up-and-running on my wheezy (testing) machine :-) :-) thank you very much. never thought this is going to happen. a few months ago there weren't any packages for wheezy. :-) |
| MutantTurkey | all in time |
| MutantTurkey | trinity makes remarkable progress for a tiny team |
| MutantTurkey | I always am amazed by people like David and Darrell who just chug along |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: meeting today? |
| MutantTurkey | MEETING TODAY MEETING TODAY!!! :-) |
| Xu_R | yup |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: i read about new arch packages coming up at the wiki. |
| Xu_R | I'm missing my lunch for the meeting, so I'm totally nomming at my desk >.> |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: I nom at my desk anyway usually |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: yes |
| schreiberstein | cool. will there be a repo for that? or will i have to compile myself? |
| MutantTurkey | yes there will |
| schreiberstein | thanks! that's epic. |
| schreiberstein | question : is it legit to clone the trinity mirror using apt-mirror? i really need packages cause i'll set up a few machines with it. (virtual + physical) and i don't know which packages i'll need yet. |
| MutantTurkey | i'd ask tim |
| MutantTurkey | I don't use ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | so |
| schreiberstein | I'M USING DEBIAN |
| schreiberstein | uhh |
| schreiberstein | didn't want to shout |
| schreiberstein | accidentally pressed caps lock |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| MutantTurkey | i dude it all the time |
| schreiberstein | i actually started cloning. i hope tim doesn'T mind. when my home server is running fine again, i'll host a (temporary?) mirror of the nightly build i'm currently downloading as a reward. i have 1MB/s upstream |
| schreiberstein | (for the wheezy guys) |
| schreiberstein | yay. i get ~110 kb/s when using multiple threads |
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| MutantTurkey | nice |
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| Xu_R | Meeting starts in a few minutes. |
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| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | shit |
| MutantTurkey | forgot |
| schreiberstein | ^^ |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: there is a meeting in #trinity-desktop-meeting |
| MutantTurkey | also samelian ^ |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: ^ |
| SlavekB | yeah, now I'm still busy ... I will be silent from the beginning :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1072 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1072 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KOffice localization missing |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1073 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1073 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, K3b localization missing |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1074 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1074 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Switch application language does not work at all |
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| schreiberstein | is trinity going to work good without hal, or will i encounter bizzilions of bugs? |
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| schreiberstein | good night |
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| Space_Man | hi SlavekB |
| Space_Man | I have a problem with kdesudo :( |
| Space_Man | http://paste.debian.net/176674/ |
| Space_Man | using ubuntu 11.10 and your repos |
| Space_Man | it has been failing for 3 or 4 days, today I updated with the latest builds from your repo but the problem is still there |
| Space_Man | I tried to run adept, which popped up a small window asking for the password |
| Space_Man | after entering the password and pressing ok, a new window appears with "the application kdesudo (kdesu) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV) |
| Space_Man | " |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: have you updated kdebase and kdelibs? |
| Space_Man | I don't know :P |
| SlavekB | kdebase is ax16, kdelibs is ax8 :) |
| Space_Man | I'm using your ppa's |
| Space_Man | how do I check what versions etc? |
| SlavekB | In aptitude |
| SlavekB | But I see that due to the change in tdesu (Add keep password option to tdesu) probably I will have to integrate also package kdesudo. |
| Space_Man | kdebase appears to be ax16 and kdelibs is ax8 |
| * Space_Man is not sure how to use aptitude | |
| SlavekB | First supper, and then prepare a package kdesudo ;) |
| Space_Man | I used adept_manager and looked at the installed version numbers |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1075 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1075 minor, P1, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, Kate: Add intelligent placement to find/replace confirmation dialog |
| SlavekB | Adept would probably also have to show whole version number of package. |
| MutantTurkey | ffffuuuuuu |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Space_Man evidently also have Oneiric |
| MutantTurkey | problems? |
| SlavekB | Only with kdesudo. |
| SlavekB | did not say anything about the crashing kdesktop |
| Space_Man | kdesktop is very nice :) |
| SlavekB | And no crashes during setting? |
| Space_Man | no crashes |
| SlavekB | Glad to hear it :) |
| Space_Man | except something is odd! |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Also, have you heard? ;) |
| Space_Man | if I right click on the desktop and select "configure desktop..." |
| SlavekB | Yes, exactly what we needed to try. |
| Space_Man | a window pops up with some options, clicking on "behaviour" caused the desktop to refresh and the window to disapear |
| SlavekB | :( |
| Space_Man | but it has now stopped refreshing!!! |
| SlavekB | Hmm, that's not good - so setting crashes? |
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| Space_Man | I didn't try to change any setting, I only clicked on behaviour |
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| SlavekB | Ok, so this is probably exactly the same problem as have MutantTurkey. |
| Space_Man | but now clicking on behaviour, multiple desktops or screen saver - nothing odd happens |
| SlavekB | For me there is no problem with any of the settings (Debian Squeeze). |
| SlavekB | I'll be back in a moment ... (after dinner ;) ) |
| SlavekB | Space_Man: When it crashes, write something to. Xsession-errors? |
| Space_Man | kdeinit: PID 3669 terminated. |
| Space_Man | kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC 'konsole' from launcher. |
| Space_Man | the last lines http://paste.debian.net/176691/ |
| SlavekB | Hmm, there's nothing interesting to see. |
| Space_Man | I'm going to bed |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1076 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1076 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: Rosegarden FTBFS on 64-bit |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: kdesudo updated and included into my ppa |
| Space_Man | hi SlavekB |
| SlavekB | Hi Space_Man |
| Space_Man | I was just about to say "it works" |
| Space_Man | I updated 5 minutes ago and the kdesudo problem has gone |
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| SlavekB | Great. Thank you for testing. |
| Space_Man | I haven't had any more problems with the settings! |
| SlavekB | Like, no longer crashes setting kdesktop? |
| Space_Man | yes |
| Space_Man | yesterday changing some of the kdesktop settings, made the desktop go black and rest and the settings window disappeared |
| Space_Man | after several tries it stopped |
| Space_Man | today it still works without any problems |
| SlavekB | So it is very good news. |
| Space_Man | *made the desktop go black and reset the background/icons* |
| Space_Man | maybe :P |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey have reported crashes also in settings Konsole. |
| Space_Man | konsole looks the same and works the same |
| Space_Man | there have been no obvious changes to konsole |
| Space_Man | I must go outside :( |
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| getphuture | good day all |
| getphuture | any information about powerpc ? |
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| rzs19 | i have an old apple g3, if you want?:P |
| rzs19 | but rev1, so i think ;) |
| rzs19 | isnt powerpc death, for desktop use, or i'm wrong? |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: hi |
| MutantTurkey | hello :) |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: You have installed the package kdesudo? |
| getphuture | rzs: thanks mine is PowerBook G4 :-P I mean trinity kde3 for ubuntu powerpc for example or an other distro |
| getphuture | is there someone involved with powerpc port ? Any plan ? |
| MutantTurkey | I don't think anyone cares about PPC |
| MutantTurkey | sorry :[ |
| MutantTurkey | I have a ppc desktop and it is long neglected |
| SlavekB | getphuture: I would say that we do not where it build. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1077 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1077 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDED Subversion Module service runs for no reason |
| MutantTurkey | it probably builds - just no-one to do it |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Space_Man yesterday confirmed kdesktop crash when setting |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: But after today update kdesudo, kdesktop stop crashing. |
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| samelian | dati-mi si mie o idee, pentru CAD cum e mai bine sa fie monitorul, 4:3 sau 16:9? |
| samelian | sorry, wrong window :) |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: ok |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: heh |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: upgrading now |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
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| caleb__ | Hello im running fedora 17 lxde spin, and trying to install kde trinity. Im faced with dependencies errors. I am getting the following "Error: Package: trinity-kdeaddons-3.5.13-4.fc17.opt.x86_64 (trinity-3.5.13) |
| caleb__ | Requires: libkateinterfaces.so.0()(64bit) |
| caleb__ | Available: kdebase3-libs-3.5.10-20.fc17.x86_64 (fedora) |
| caleb__ | libkateinterfaces.so.0()(64bit) |
| caleb__ | Available: trinity-kdebase-libs-3.5.13-22.fc17.opt.x86_64 (trinity-3.5.13) |
| caleb__ | libkateinterfaces.so.0()(64bit) |
| caleb__ | Available: trinity-libkateinterfaces-3.5.13-23.fc17.opt.x86_64 (trinity-3.5.13) |
| caleb__ | libkateinterfaces.so.0()(64bit) |
| caleb__ | You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem |
| caleb__ | You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest |
| caleb__ | ignoring dependencies does not help |
| caleb__ | Does anybody know of a solution? |
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| caleb__ | im also on a 64bit version of fedora 17 if that makes any difference |
| caleb__ | Although i suppose you could deduce that from the error |
| MutantTurkey | howdy caleb |
| MutantTurkey | who's our Fedora guy? |
| caleb__ | hey |
| MutantTurkey | Francois |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| caleb__ | how are you |
| MutantTurkey | good good |
| caleb__ | do you know how to fix this? |
| MutantTurkey | I know who can help. |
| MutantTurkey | let me get you his email |
| MutantTurkey | he packages and maintains Trinity for Fedora |
| caleb__ | awsome |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | I am going to PM it ok? |
| caleb__ | ok |
| MutantTurkey | there ya go |
| caleb__ | im sorry, but do pm's work in xchat? |
| caleb__ | ok never mind |
| caleb__ | i think i got it |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | I've never used xchat but do you have it? |
| caleb__ | yes i have it thank you very much |
| MutantTurkey | excellent |
| MutantTurkey | just send him that - he usually is very good. |
| MutantTurkey | we also have a user mailing list which is good to be on for those having issues. |
| MutantTurkey | caleb__: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/mailinglist.php |
| caleb__ | thanks i just joined it |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| MutantTurkey | caleb__: how long have you used Trinity/KDE3? |
| caleb__ | I have tried it once, but have not used it since like ubuntu 7 |
| caleb__ | i switched to gnome with kde 4 and only recently learned about trinity |
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| n4mu | Hello, |
| n4mu | Sorry I've asked something a while back, didn't get an answer in the next day or so and then I forgot to check back :/ |
| n4mu | So, I'll just ask again, What's the best/safest route for a Debian/wheezy user ? And are there plans of getting trinity into Debian at all ? |
| n4mu | Thanks :] |
| SlavekB | n4mu: For the testing branch of Debian are only available nightly-builds of Trinity == development branch |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1078 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1078 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Remove kgtk from meta packages |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 467 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=467 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kmail fsync() unnecessary |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 465 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=465 major, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Add support in Ark to browse ISO image files |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 838 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=838 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Some png files in some libraries are broken |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 465 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=465 major, P3, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Add support in Ark to browse ISO image files |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 465 from REOPENED to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=465 enhancement, P3, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add support in Ark to browse ISO image files |
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| rzs19 | hello, is there a boot argument to set the default graficcard? |
| rzs19 | ah fuck, wrong irc channel :D |
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| jefnode | hi |
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| jefnode | i just installed trinity desktop on my Fedora 17 and i want to know if tde provides kdm ? (beacause there is a package trinity kdm theme so...) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1079 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1079 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tooltips remain on screen when lock engaged |
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| drica | hi! is there any date for the release of TDE 3.5.13.1 ?? |
| drica | i mean, days, weeks? |
| drica | just because i need to do a new install |
| drica | ?? |
| SlavekB | Do I have a few patches that need to integrate into 3.5.13.1. |
| SlavekB | And there are still two bugs that would be a good fix. |
| SlavekB | I guess a one week or 14 days. |
| SlavekB | Until then, for a new installation you can still use my ppa (in combination with the original 3.5.13). |
| drica | ok thanks!! does your ppa work with weezy or only sqeezy ?? |
| SlavekB | only squeeze |
| SlavekB | ...and 4× ubuntu ;) |
| drica | and, there will be for wheezy, or not possible? |
| SlavekB | So far I not planned to prepare 3.5.13.1 for Wheezy. |
| drica | ah, and is enough to add your ppa line to sources.list, or do I also need the lines from "normal" tde 3.5.13 ? |
| SlavekB | You need both the original 3.5.13 and my PPA as an encore. |
| drica | ok... and when the final 3.5.13.1 arrives, then I will only need one line, right? |
| SlavekB | Yes, it will be again one (+ build-deps). |
| drica | ok i wiil give 3.5.13.1 a try! many thanks!! |
| drica | ah one more question... there is ksensors available?? |
| SlavekB | I thank you for testing before release. |
| SlavekB | You can use 'kima-trinity'. |
| drica | and compiz for tde? |
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| SlavekB | How is it with compiz I do not know - I do not use / no tried it. |
| drica | ok one more time, many thanks!!! |
| drica | bye |
| SlavekB | bye |
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| rzs19 | and again this suppid question: how to set the default view mode in konqueror? |
| rzs19 | stupid* |
| SlavekB | You can adjust the "View profiles". One profile is for mode "file browser", the second profile for mode "Internet browser". |
| rzs19 | and how i can set as default, for filebrowsing |
| SlavekB | Run Konqueror in "file manager" mode, set what you need and then in the profile management save current state back to the profile "file manager". |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: hi |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I got good and bad news in one. |
| MutantTurkey | let me know |
| MutantTurkey | the bad first |
| SlavekB | It is one bad and good together ;) |
| MutantTurkey | hah |
| MutantTurkey | well tell me! |
| SlavekB | Setting KDesktop / Behavior crashes on my test machine with Precise. |
| SlavekB | So good that it confirms your bug report. |
| SlavekB | But also bad that it's a bug that should be corrected before release 3.5.13.1. |
| SlavekB | On the other tabs setting is not to fall - only on Behaviour. |
| SlavekB | However, it is interesting that the same settings work fine in KControl Center. |
| SlavekB | I just tested that with "kcmshell desktopbehavior" it also works and not fall. |
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| MutantTurkey | can you get the backtrace? |
| MutantTurkey | sorry was at lunch |
| SlavekB | Yes, it seems that I should get it. |
| SlavekB | http://pastebin.com/2NpiZyK3 |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: can you help my friend install Axis? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | plase :-) |
| MutantTurkey | please' |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: ^^ |
| SlavekB | As help with setup apt sources? |
| MutantTurkey | installing your respository |
| MutantTurkey | he has 3.5.13 regular now. |
| SlavekB | Just to add apt source: |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu _distribution_ main |
| MutantTurkey | Dragonslayer: ^ |
| Dragonslayer | awesome, thanks |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: full command? |
| MutantTurkey | btw he is using debian |
| SlavekB | On debian is it: |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main |
| SlavekB | And get signing key from my ppa: |
| SlavekB | apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys 80479E11 |
| SlavekB | Then, just the usual update: |
| SlavekB | aptitude update && aptitude upgrade |
| MutantTurkey | cool he got it worked out |
| MutantTurkey | he is my co-worker |
| SlavekB | I am glad to be another tester :) |
| Dragonslayer | haha no problem at all |
| Dragonslayer | I was having trouble until i realized that you probably meant /axis/debain instead of /axis/ubuntu |
| SlavekB | I think that debian / ubuntu is on ppa as a symlink == no matter what is used. |
| Dragonslayer | Is it? aptitude was ignoring the repo when I updated it when I had it down as ubuntu |
| Dragonslayer | Maybe it was another typo I fixed in the process |
| SlavekB | I have on my Debian in apt.source path with ubuntu. |
| SlavekB | The line that I posted was copy / paste from my machine. |
| Dragonslayer | Well, it was a problem on my end then. Serves me right for not doing cpoy/paste haha |
| MutantTurkey | alls is well that ends well? |
| Dragonslayer | You're repo is downloading now, so absolutely haha |
| SlavekB | Well, yeah, downloading goes slowly :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1080 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1080 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror: Improve resolution control for displaying file sizes |
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| Z_God | SlavekB: it seems that crash is not in the nightlies on Precise |
| Z_God | maybe Tim fixed it already |
| Z_God | so it would be a matter of backporting the right patch then |
| SlavekB | setting in kdesktop? |
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| SlavekB | I would need know if the problem was in the original 3.5.13. I wonder if I dragged it into 3.5.13.1, or whether it was there before. |
| Z_God | SlavekB: yes |
| Z_God | it's possible to install 3.5.13 from oneiric on Precise with some hacks |
| SlavekB | ... or prepare another test machine with Oneiric. |
| Z_God | but maybe the problem is related to precise? |
| SlavekB | No, MutantTurkey and Space_Man reported this bug on Oneiric. |
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| Z_God | ok |
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| SlavekB | Z_God: I tried to look for it in bugzilla, but without success. |
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| Z_God | hmm ok |
| Z_God | maybe you could ask Tim directly about it |
| Z_God | have a nice dinner! |
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| SlavekB | Z_God: Thanks :) |
| SlavekB | Z_God: Now I tried to go through the differences in files that are mentioned in the backtrace, but even there I do not see anything suspicious. |
| SlavekB | In any case, I have prepared next update for kdelibs, so instead of waiting around to reveal / solve this problem, I'll send it to ppa to build. |
| SlavekB | (The kdelibs update is needed in order to fix building of kdebindings that I have ready for v3.5.13-sru.) |
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| drica | hi! what are the lines to add to have the squeeze Slavek ..repos.?? |
| drica | hi! what are the lines to add to have the squeeze Slavek 3.5.13.1 repos.?? |
| drica | add to sources.list? |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main |
| drica | ah ok!!! hehe thank you! |
| SlavekB | And command to get signing key: |
| SlavekB | apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys 80479E11 |
| drica | so it will be all of this |
| drica | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main |
| drica | deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main |
| drica | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main |
| drica | deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main |
| drica | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main |
| drica | right? |
| SlavekB | The last line is missing the 'deb'. |
| drica | do I need the buildeps? |
| drica | ah ok |
| drica | corrected |
| SlavekB | 'deb-src' is only necessary if you intend to compile from sources. |
| drica | no I dont :-) |
| drica | maybe one day :-) |
| SlavekB | builddeps are needed - there are some libraries. |
| drica | so it will be this: |
| drica | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main |
| drica | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main |
| drica | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main |
| SlavekB | Yes, that is correct. |
| drica | ok here i go... can i start by installing just that: apt-get install kdm-trinity konqueror-trinity kwin-trinity kicker-trinity ?? |
| drica | i mean i would like to start with a minimal set of trinity |
| SlavekB | You can start, for example, using: aptitude install ksmserver-trinity |
| drica | what are the essencial subset? |
| drica | ksmserver pulls the basic ones?? |
| SlavekB | I'm starting with this - as a minimum installation. |
| drica | ok will try now |
| drica | downloading now... a little slow... |
| drica | why kamera-trinity has to be a dependency? i think it is not essential? |
| SlavekB | Yes. PPA is not the mirrors, so they download goes from the main server => slowly. |
| SlavekB | kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity 'suggest' kamera-trinity. |
| SlavekB | It is not necessary, only suggested. |
| drica | so I'ḿ installing the sugested packages? I only want the dependents packages... |
| drica | apt-get says to install 53 new packages |
| SlavekB | It is not so much ;) |
| drica | ok got rid of the "sugestions" and "recommendations" now only 46 packages... hehe |
| SlavekB | (Y) :) |
| drica | but 50min. left... will go to eat and return later... :-) |
| SlavekB | By the way, if you install amd64, so you're absolutely fresh kdelibs ;) |
| drica | no, it is i386 does it matter?? |
| SlavekB | 'ax9' version I gave to build about 30 minutes ago. |
| SlavekB | i386 still waiting to build. |
| drica | if it is important i can install another day |
| drica | maybe tomorrow?? |
| SlavekB | Feel free to install now. |
| drica | the changes are not so important/dramatic? |
| SlavekB | I do not know how long the build-farm will wait for the i386 builds. |
| SlavekB | * commit 2fae13c6 Update default bug tracker link so as not to break tdebindings * commit 6b480182 Fix FTBFS * commit 77f4891c Fix a number of tdelibs build warnings * commit 0d043b41 Fix typos. * commit 9af103f2 Fix typo. * commit 3f59f959 Fix typos. * commit 759f5794 Fix typos. * commit 0536f0b7, closes #465 Export kdemain symbol in iso kioslave * commit b4bba7b5 Fix iso kioslave not pars |
| SlavekB | liet name lookup failure in iso kioslave * commit d1c71f69 Fix spinbox text entry when base is not 10 |
| SlavekB | This is changes from ax8 to ax9 :) |
| SlavekB | For me is important because of kdebindings compilation. |
| drica | welll... it all sounds a little "chinese" to me... :-) |
| drica | will install now... |
| drica | ahhh why the "launchpad-integration" package?? i though it is only needed on Ubuntu, not in Debian, right? |
| SlavekB | If I know, on Debian is "dummy". |
| SlavekB | ... only for easier maintenance of dependencies across the debian / ubuntu. |
| drica | ok, understood ! going to leave now, will return later or tomorrow |
| drica | thank you |
| SlavekB | see you later :) |
| drica | ok |
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| Strangelv | /me : Get:70 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net oneiric/main Translation-en [9,364 B] |
| Strangelv | /me : 99% [70 Translation-en xz 0 B] [Connecting to mirror.ets.kth.se] 156 B/s 0s/usr/bin/xz: (stdin): File format not recognized |
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| Fresh_meat2_ | Is ther a developper ? |
| SlavekB | just a handyman ;) |
| Fresh_meat2_ | It is kind of embarrasing but can you help me with the building process ? |
| SlavekB | I usually only re-build existing packages (+ patches). |
| SlavekB | What are your complications? |
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| Fresh_meat2 | ... fucking shitty internet connection |
| SlavekB | That's probably I cannot help to fix it :D |
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| Fresh_meat2 | you probably right |
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| Fresh_meat2 | cd to the desired module to build, then run: |
| Fresh_meat2 | cp -Rp <path to your system's libtool.m4 file> admin/libtool.m4.in |
| Fresh_meat2 | but there is no admin/ directory |
| SlavekB | This is from git? |
| Fresh_meat2 | is the howto outdated or do I have just to create the directory |
| Fresh_meat2 | yes |
| SlavekB | In git is admin and cmake as 'submodule'. |
| SlavekB | You need to run: git submodule init |
| Fresh_meat2 | and after that ? |
| SlavekB | git submodule update |
| Fresh_meat2 | [adrian@Morgoth tde]$ git submodule update |
| Fresh_meat2 | fatal: Needed a single revision |
| Fresh_meat2 | Unable to find current revision in submodule path 'main/tdelibs' |
| SlavekB | And when you run it inside a folder tdelibs? |
| SlavekB | I do not have my entire 'tde', but only individual modules - tdebase, tdelibs,...) |
| Fresh_meat2 | well that seem to do nothing |
| Fresh_meat2 | well you see I use archlinux |
| Fresh_meat2 | we have the abs bulding system |
| SlavekB | goes into some specific folder and put both: |
| SlavekB | git submodule init && git submodule update |
| Fresh_meat2 | but TDE fails to be builded |
| Fresh_meat2 | ha that's checking |
| Fresh_meat2 | and then how I should build the module ? |
| SlavekB | Have you got folders admin and cmake? |
| Fresh_meat2 | yes but I have tried that in qt3 and that did nothing |
| Fresh_meat2 | btw my tdelibs is empty ... |
| SlavekB | With Qt3 it's okay - it does not use admin and cmake modules. |
| Fresh_meat2 | ok |
| SlavekB | But empty tdelibs is suspicious. |
| Fresh_meat2 | well I have done a saving of my original cloning |
| SlavekB | Try in the folder 'tde': git pull && git submodule update |
| Fresh_meat2 | I will check if it's empty there |
| Fresh_meat2 | well it is empty there too |
| Fresh_meat2 | and |
| Fresh_meat2 | [adrian@Morgoth tde]$ git pull && git submodule update |
| Fresh_meat2 | Already up-to-date. |
| Fresh_meat2 | fatal: Needed a single revision |
| Fresh_meat2 | Unable to find current revision in submodule path 'main/tdelibs' |
| Fresh_meat2 | I have followen that to get the git http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/tde/src/README-building.txt |
| SlavekB | So try to switch to the main/tdelibs and enter: git checkout master |
| Fresh_meat2 | ha that's better |
| Fresh_meat2 | I have launched git submodule update from tde directory and now it's cloning more stuff |
| Fresh_meat2 | [adrian@Morgoth tde]$ git submodule update |
| Fresh_meat2 | Submodule path 'main/tdebase': checked out '1f545ddb0d249634fd78f4eb7bfd95ea98dbea40' |
| Fresh_meat2 | Cloning into 'main/tdemultimedia'... |
| SlavekB | (Y) |
| Fresh_meat2 | I hope someday someone will make a versioning system that will just work |
| SlavekB | I do really like git. |
| SlavekB | A few months ago I know to use only cvs... |
| Fresh_meat2 | well in my former company, we used svn |
| Fresh_meat2 | a pain in the *** when it come to merging |
| SlavekB | But then I read a book about GIT and liked me. |
| Fresh_meat2 | and we was only two people |
| Fresh_meat2 | I can't even imagine when you are 50+ dev |
| Fresh_meat2 | git seem somehow complicated to me |
| Fresh_meat2 | specially the fact that's not possible to retrive a failed cloning |
| SlavekB | I also soon feared that. |
| SlavekB | For thee was some mess in the submodule. |
| Fresh_meat2 | well I suppose git isn't that bad since linus made and use it |
| Fresh_meat2 | but I wonder if something like mercurial or darks isn't a little more ... well failproof |
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| Fresh_meat2 | and how did you manage the version in the tde git ? |
| Fresh_meat2 | I mean |
| Fresh_meat2 | I suppose there is the 3. |
| Fresh_meat2 | 5.15.1 |
| Fresh_meat2 | along with the 14 |
| SlavekB | I have a git branch v3.5.13-sru. |
| SlavekB | For this unfortunately is not the branch in meta 'tde'. |
| SlavekB | ...yet |
| SlavekB | You want to build 3.5.13.1? |
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| Fresh_meat2 | well why not since it seems that it well be release soon |
| Fresh_meat2 | and I seriously would try something new with that release too |
| Fresh_meat2 | like switching to clang |
| Fresh_meat2 | and look at what's wrong |
| SlavekB | wow |
| SlavekB | An interesting idea. |
| Fresh_meat2 | compiling with -wall -wextras |
| Fresh_meat2 | stiff like that |
| Fresh_meat2 | in hope to improve the global quality |
| Fresh_meat2 | but for that I need to understand how to build it |
| SlavekB | I'm hungry - I go to dinner :) |
| Fresh_meat2 | (and get ride of my kde4) |
| Fresh_meat2 | ok good lunch |
| SlavekB | thanks :) |
| Fresh_meat2 | looks like the retriving will that the night |
| Fresh_meat2 | we will probably speak of that tomorow |
| SlavekB | Somewhere out there, write about 4 GiB. |
| SlavekB | Perhaps it is time for me to do v3.5.13-sru in the global 'tde' ;) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1081 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1081 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Disabling the menu search field causes a crash when using Alt-F1/Esc keyboard shortcuts |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1052 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1052 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Fifteenpieces About dialog displays a KDE3 branded image |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Hi |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: We have one observation about kdesktop setting crashes. |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | what is it? |
| MutantTurkey | who is "we"? |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I have installed and the original Oneiric 3.5.13 and crashes already there. |
| MutantTurkey | So did something get fixed, and then break again? |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Z_God, the contrary, reported that it does not fall in the R14. |
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| MutantTurkey | is he testing R14 git on oneiric? |
| MutantTurkey | still I wonder why it stopped working again? |
| MutantTurkey | what commit broke it? |
| MutantTurkey | who knows. |
| Z_God | precise here |
| SlavekB | On my test machine 3.5.13.1 on Precise crashes. |
| SlavekB | But I do not have a solution yet. :( |
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| MutantTurkey | also i get segfaults logging out |
| MutantTurkey | that would be the session manager |
| MutantTurkey | dunno why |
| Z_God | I think for 3.5.13.1 now, only current regressions from 3.5.13 should be fixed |
| Z_God | otherwise you'll be at R14 before a release ;) |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: hello :-) |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: hi ;) |
| MutantTurkey | how are you sir? |
| Z_God | busy |
| Z_God | how are you? |
| MutantTurkey | good |
| MutantTurkey | busy as well |
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| MutantTurkey | blech |
| MutantTurkey | xmodmap suckls |
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| Fresh_meat2 | MutantTurkey : are you still into the PKGBUILDS of 3.5.13 ? |
| MutantTurkey | No sir |
| MutantTurkey | I have not been for a long time |
| MutantTurkey | L0ner was working on them for some time |
| MutantTurkey | David Rankin however is the man you'll want to talk to. |
| Fresh_meat2 | did he come here or should I mail him ? |
| MutantTurkey | he is not much for IRC |
| MutantTurkey | but is active on our mailing list |
| Fresh_meat2 | ok thanks |
| MutantTurkey | want his email? |
| Fresh_meat2 | thanks |
| MutantTurkey | yep no problem |
| MutantTurkey | I conribute to this project more in terms of managment than actual code lol |
| MutantTurkey | always emailing people about xyz or putting people in touch with one another |
| MutantTurkey | to bad i don't have time to program |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 953 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=953 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kmail composer is crashing, when kmail is used with kontact |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 368 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=368 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KBFX does not work at all |
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| Fresh_meat2 | help |
| Fresh_meat2 | it's a nightmare |
| Fresh_meat2 | after I have installed tde 3.5.13 |
| Fresh_meat2 | I launch it |
| Fresh_meat2 | and I have creepy kde4 plasmoids everywhere |
| Fresh_meat2 | they will never leave me alone T_T |
| Z_God | Fresh_meat2: there are unfortunately some KDE4 interaction bugs sometimes with the current releases :( |
| Z_God | it should be possible to kill plasma |
| Fresh_meat2 | yep that's works |
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| Fresh_meat2 | but does that means for every kde4lib depending app lauched, plasma will bring up ? |
| Z_God | no, it shouldn't come back now |
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| Fresh_meat2_ | ... I hate my internet connection |
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| Z_God | rzs19: there's no kvim I think |
| Z_God | only vimpart |
| Z_God | it can be used by kate & kwrite |
| rzs19 | but vimpart was removed in 3.5.0, or ? |
| rzs19 | " * vimpart has been removed from kdeaddons." |
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| Z_God | rzs19: I don't know |
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| Z_God | where did you find that? |
| rzs19 | Z_God: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/?a=viewblob&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment%20Packaging&h=ac5bda18d04b8e2eed748aa55c89d340ae5fa2f4&hb=b659308250317dffa357826a5361b704e836b190&f=debian/squeeze/kdeaddons/debian/changelog |
| Z_God | rzs19: ah, it either means that the part was removed from debian or from KDE completely back then |
| Z_God | but I suspect the first |
| Z_God | I recommend looking at the Trinity source tree and see if it's still there, if not go back to the KDE 3.5 source tree and look for it there |
| Z_God | I suspect it was removed because it was buggy, but if you manage to resurrect the code, I'm sure it'll be included again in Trinity |
| rzs19 | if i will find some time, i could give it a try |
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| P-Chan | Do ytou guys will create repositorie for precise pangolin Mephisto ? |
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| P-Chan | any ubuntu user here? |
| P-Chan | Bomfunk: hi |
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| P-Chan | any ubuntu user here? |
| P-Chan | Z_God: hi |
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| P-Chan | chaky: hi |
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| P-Chan | samelian: hi |
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| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: hi |
| Fresh_meat2 | hi |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: if trinity no port to qt4 he will die |
| P-Chan | because razor qt is coming |
| Fresh_meat2 | Like any other wm projects, they don't even have a proper file manager |
| Fresh_meat2 | I tried that moth ago |
| Fresh_meat2 | in aim to switch from kde4 |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: why developers don't packed to ubuntu 12.04? |
| Fresh_meat2 | idk |
| P-Chan | If am a bad compiler few things I can compile |
| Fresh_meat2 | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dependencies/ubuntu precise main |
| Fresh_meat2 | deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dependencies/ubuntu precise main |
| Fresh_meat2 | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu precise main |
| Fresh_meat2 | deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu precise main |
| Fresh_meat2 | did you try that ? |
| Fresh_meat2 | http://trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/NightlyBuilds |
| Fresh_meat2 | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/+packages?start=0&batch=300 |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: nightly is very dangerous and can cause congflct. I will hope the stable |
| P-Chan | thanks for support Fresh_meat2 |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: I use ubuntu and now linux mint because i am slack |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: the chromium shows warning message in nightly nuilds page man |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: cool trinity goes to 4 |
| P-Chan | but uses qt3 yet |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: why the developer don't just use ppa? |
| Fresh_meat2 | you should ask them, I am not a developer |
| P-Chan | Fresh_meat2: ok |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1081 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1081 critical, P1, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Disabling the menu search field causes a crash when using Alt-F1/Esc keyboard shortcuts |
| Fresh_meat2 | hey guys |
| Fresh_meat2 | after git pulled my source copy |
| Fresh_meat2 | git tell me that |
| Fresh_meat2 | From http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tdepim |
| Fresh_meat2 | e86bf88..27f6b88 master -> origin/master |
| Fresh_meat2 | 8959375..98ca007 v3.5.13-sru -> origin/v3.5.13-sru |
| Fresh_meat2 | but I was wondering |
| Fresh_meat2 | master is the R14 code and v3.5.13-sru is the 3.5.13.1 code right ? |
| SlavekB | Yes. |
| Fresh_meat2 | ok thanks |
| Fresh_meat2 | but that strange anyway |
| Fresh_meat2 | it doesn't appear when I list the branchs |
| Fresh_meat2 | git branch -a |
| Fresh_meat2 | * master |
| Fresh_meat2 | remotes/origin/HEAD -> origin/master |
| Fresh_meat2 | remotes/origin/master |
| SlavekB | git checkout v3.5.13-sru && git pull && git submodule update |
| Fresh_meat2 | error: pathspec 'v3.5.13-sru' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
| SlavekB | Are you in one of the projects? |
| Fresh_meat2 | SlavekB : no |
| Fresh_meat2 | I have tried git checkout v3.5.13 |
| SlavekB | On the meta 'tde' branch has not been created yet. |
| Fresh_meat2 | well actually I want to try build parckage from 3.5.13.1 |
| Fresh_meat2 | how can I get it if it's not accessible by git ? |
| SlavekB | Is available from git. But you must checkout in individual projects. |
| SlavekB | For example: |
| SlavekB | cd tdelibs |
| SlavekB | git checkout v3.5.13-sru && git pull && git submodule update |
| Fresh_meat2 | ha I get it |
| Fresh_meat2 | I will try that |
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| Fresh_meat2 | Slavek : except for main/applications/tde-style-qtcurve everything worked smoothly |
| Fresh_meat2 | thanks |
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| SlavekB | Fresh_meat2: You can pull git for tde-style-qtcurve and rebuild again - bug should be resolved. |
| Fresh_meat2 | yeah I have rm -Rf it an then git pulled |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1081 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1081 critical, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Disabling the menu search field causes a crash when using Alt-F1/Esc keyboard shortcuts |
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| Borg^Queen | HI |
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| Fresh_meat2 | 'night |
| Space_Man | night |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1048 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1048 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Digikam: Unexpected Q_LLONG messages |
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| calamari | hi |
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| Space_Man | hello calamari |
| calamari | hi Space_Man |
| calamari | I'm running Trinity on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise), upgraded from 11.10 (oneiric). I realzie there's not a 12.04 build yet.. but I noticed the gnome network manager applet is invisible in the notification area. should I file a bug report on that? it was glitchy under oneiric too, wasn't repainting itself properly |
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| MutantTurkey | calamari: hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | network manager has an issue |
| MutantTurkey | this is because it uses gtk3 and only properly displays with gnome or unity AFAIK |
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| calamari | MutantTurkey: is there something else I should use instead of network manager? |
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| MutantTurkey | calamari: sorry I was out all day. |
| MutantTurkey | I used wicd |
| MutantTurkey | which works well |
| MutantTurkey | but the new nmapplet stinks |
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| calamari | no problem, and I probably shouldn't be complaining too much.. I can still use nm-applet, I just have to click in an invisible area in the notification area and it gives me the context window |
| calamari | so it's there just 1 pixel wide or something |
| MutantTurkey | it just looks trange |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | it should still work fine |
| MutantTurkey | calamari: I am going to sleep - if you have more questions I will be around tomorrow. We also have an mailing list which you can find on our website |
| calamari | thanks |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| calamari | night |
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| Z_God | I think the nm-applet bug is fixed in the nightlies, the icon shows up fine here |
| Z_God | notifications also work properly |
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| MutantTurkey | Z_God: really? |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: yep |
| Z_God | it's been working perfect really |
| Z_God | can't complain about networkmanager |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 178 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=178 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, ISO files should double-click open with kio_iso |
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| calamari | I'm curious if it's possible to get update-notifier or update-notifier-kde to work under TDE? Adept still notifies on held packages, which is why I'm hoping for an alternative. Plus, I like the interface of the gnome version, where it shows the upgrade logs. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1082 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1082 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, glibc 2.16 - tdelibs FTBFS kioslave rpcgen - cannot find any C preprocessor (cpp) |
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| MutantTurkey | morning |
| rzs19 | good morning calvin :) |
| Space_Man | afternoon |
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| SlavekB | Friends, I'm sorry, I have to go |
| MutantTurkey | cya! |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: foreve? |
| SlavekB | No :) I'll be back in a few hours |
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| MutantTurkey | oh |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1029 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1029 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, trinity-kmail "Could not start process pop3" |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1083 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1083 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Twin4: Add configuration option to disable the intro |
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| argv_turk | bugs bugs bugs |
| SlavekB | where where where? ;) |
| argv_turk | everywhere |
| argv_turk | nowhere actually my system seems very stable. |
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| * samelian learning a new language :) | |
| samelian | more exactly, vala |
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| SlavekB | Vala aimed at the gnome? :o |
| samelian | yeah |
| samelian | actually is a kind of C#, modified for glib |
| samelian | it generate C-files |
| samelian | it hide the complexity of glib |
| samelian | I give up to create polkit agent using pure dbus calls |
| SlavekB | I looked on wikipedia :) |
| samelian | I will try create polkit agent using vala |
| samelian | then to link it to qt3 program |
| samelian | actually I will try to use vala to interface kde3 programs to glib infrastructure |
| SlavekB | interesting |
| SlavekB | No risk of an unwanted dependency on gnome? |
| samelian | no |
| samelian | this is very low level |
| samelian | the only dependency is glib |
| SlavekB | ok |
| samelian | also, we will need to patch qt3 to support glib main loop |
| samelian | i think that this will be good move, because then we can use a lot good quality libraries from glib/gnome world |
| samelian | for example, to use libpurple for protocols in kopete |
| samelian | this will help us to save a lot of work |
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| argv_turk | samelian: why val? |
| SlavekB | I do not know if I should be excited, with dependency on the gnome things. |
| argv_turk | C# i do not like very much |
| argv_turk | samelian: what Impact will including the glib loop have on us performance wise or otherwise? |
| samelian | argv_turk: because programming directly in glib is very difficutl |
| argv_turk | yeah that is true |
| samelian | i'm not sure it will be any degradation of performance because glib loop |
| samelian | SlavekB: gnome world is not same as kde world |
| samelian | the low level libraries are pretty independent |
| SlavekB | samelian: Gnome is the world of gtk :( |
| argv_turk | it is not. |
| argv_turk | I like gtk! |
| samelian | not exactly |
| samelian | gtk is just a part of it |
| SlavekB | And their strange ideas with mono... |
| samelian | gtk and glib are separated things |
| samelian | glib is more like qt core in qt4 |
| samelian | gtk is a kind of qtgui |
| samelian | just imagine how easy will be to implement knetworkmanager, based on networkmanager library |
| argv_turk | samelian: good thinking |
| samelian | and we will not need to fight with strange bugs when api will be changed |
| argv_turk | all we need then is to write an interface. |
| samelian | yes |
| argv_turk | the gui on top |
| samelian | so, vala will be a layer between kde3 and glib world |
| samelian | at least, in my mind :) |
| argv_turk | do we need vala versus just C? |
| samelian | actually vala generate pure C code |
| argv_turk | i know |
| samelian | and pretty clean |
| argv_turk | but why even bother with vala then? |
| samelian | because glib is very verbose |
| samelian | for small thing you need to write hundred of lines |
| argv_turk | that is true |
| samelian | this is because glib emulate C++ classes in plain C |
| argv_turk | so how do you go about implementing this? |
| argv_turk | not just callling "g_main_loop_new()" obviously... |
| samelian | not sure yet, I will try to create vala files that generate some C code callable from C++ |
| argv_turk | ok cool cool |
| argv_turk | so very awesome... |
| samelian | the big problem is that qt3 cannot handle glib signals, at least not directly |
| samelian | I created a workaround |
| samelian | using QEventLoop |
| samelian | but there I have a timer |
| samelian | which force qt3 main loop to run g_main_context_iteration() |
| samelian | 100ms timer is enough for applications which dont need low latence |
| samelian | in most cased we don't need to handle the signals instantly |
| argv_turk | not that isn't good thou |
| argv_turk | doesn't that just waste CPU though? |
| samelian | 100ms is pretty high time |
| argv_turk | I mean like every 100ms no matter what we are at least doing a check |
| samelian | can be slower |
| samelian | however, I found an attempt to integrate qt3 with glib mainloop |
| argv_turk | so even applications idling in the background will have this? |
| samelian | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2004-November/003840.html |
| samelian | argv_turk: yes |
| argv_turk | what about just checking for events during the Qt event loop? |
| samelian | well, qt event loop is blocked in a select() when there is no event |
| argv_turk | how does the glib loop work? similarly? |
| samelian | yes, sort of |
| argv_turk | hmmm |
| argv_turk | i see |
| samelian | argv_turk: you can try to find the person who created this experimental patch? |
| argv_turk | i am glad you are smarter than me at programming :-) |
| samelian | his website seems down |
| samelian | well, is just an idea :) |
| samelian | will see if working |
| samelian | or if I wil able to implement it |
| samelian | for concept of proof is enough the QEventLoop with timer |
| samelian | but then we should try to switch qt3 to glib main loop |
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| argv_turk | right but long term it is no good |
| argv_turk | how big is the glib library? |
| argv_turk | what does qt4 do and such |
| argv_turk | that also also may be an issue. |
| samelian | glib is pretty small I guess |
| samelian | and is installed on any system anyway |
| samelian | most freedesktop daemons needs glib |
| samelian | actually qt4 used glib main loop |
| samelian | If i'm not wrong, glib use poll(), and qt3 use select() |
| samelian | poll() is better as performance |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1084 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1084 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine's link to win32 codecs needs fixed |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1031 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1031 normal, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, kmplayer: Screen saver control is broken |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1032 from PATCHAVAIL to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1032 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, kmplayer: Keyboard shortcuts are broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1085 filed by yehjj@pchome.com.tw. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1085 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kbuildsycoca crash after upgrade package trinity-systemsettings in Fedora 16 |
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| X-Raimo | hello, I have GPG related problem: gpg: requesting key 2B8638D0 from hkp server keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net ?: keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net: Connection timed out |
| X-Raimo | Is there's any workaround |
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| SlavekB | X-Raimo: http://pastebin.com/Sg8wCFV9 |
| X-Raimo | SlavekB: thanx |
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| X-Raimo | Huge thanx for all contributors of TDE!!! I gave me a real bless to be back to KDE 3.5 along side with cutting-edge Debian |
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| MutantTurkey | samelian: i've been thinking about the glib loop and i think its a good idea |
| MutantTurkey | have you suggested this to the white wizard yet? |
| samelian | aha |
| samelian | who is white wizard? :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1086 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1086 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, (Request) KMail initial setup wizard |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: timothy |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: dude working all the time really sucks, I wish i was back in 10th grade again :[ |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: if I correct remember I talk a little about glib at last meeting |
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| samelian | but first I must to prove that is a feasible solution |
| samelian | unfortunately now my spare limited, so the research and development is slower than I wish |
| samelian | *my spare time is limited |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1060 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1060 minor, P1, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, KWrite: Settings menu order and naming inconsistent with other Trinity apps |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1087 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1087 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Odd KMail messages in xsession log |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1088 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1088 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Odd Amarok messages in xsession log |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1089 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1089 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaffeine: No menu option to re-run the initial setup wizard. |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1084 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1084 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kaffeine's link to win32 codecs needs fixed |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1090 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1090 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KGPG showing two default keyservers |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1091 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1091 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail needs option to not open first email in folder |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1092 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1092 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail default message sorting |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1093 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1093 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, (Request) "Conversation view" in Kmail/Kontact |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1094 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1094 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, (Request) Custom CTCP replies in Konversation |
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| calamari | I've noticed that kdeinit seems to run programs (I realize this is vague.. what I mean are like the things it autoloads, like restoring whatever was running in the tray) twice on boot, resulting in any applications that don't enforce a single instance having duplicates, for example blueman and wicd. I'm wondering: is this an intentional behavior of kdeinit or is it a bug? |
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| MutantTurkey | calamari: hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | is it wicd? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| calamari | not just wicd tho |
| MutantTurkey | didn't even finish reading and already knew |
| MutantTurkey | I wonder why |
| MutantTurkey | there was a bug report on this |
| MutantTurkey | and was marked "NOTOURPROBLEM" |
| calamari | I am pretty sure it runs everything twice, but a lot of programs are smart enough to prevent themselves from being run twice |
| MutantTurkey | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 831: trivial, P1, ---, shdwdrgn, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, Wicd creates two tray icons on login |
| calamari | otherwise there'd be duplicates of everything lol |
| MutantTurkey | its not everything twice though |
| MutantTurkey | seems to be a workaround there |
| MutantTurkey | Are you on the ML? |
| calamari | yes |
| MutantTurkey | I would ask there and see if we can get any clues about what the problem may be |
| calamari | I fixed blueman, still working on a fix for wicd |
| Shdwdrgn | I see I'm being talked about :-) |
| calamari | but I was thinking ... hmm why the heck is kdeinit running things multiple times in the first place |
| MutantTurkey | With one program I think we just assumed that it was just wicd being bad, but with multiple programs with that issue i think we can safely say that it is more than just the wicd applet acting up |
| MutantTurkey | it is possible |
| Shdwdrgn | for what its worth, I've set up trinity on a few machines now, and every one of them gets either 2 or 3 icons for wicd down in the tray |
| MutantTurkey | we can run some test. |
| MutantTurkey | create a script in the auto start folder that just does this: |
| Shdwdrgn | what I start digging around, I find .desktop files for it all over the place in /etc and /usr/share/ |
| calamari | blueman does it.. because they had a locking mechanism, but it was faulty |
| MutantTurkey | date >> log |
| MutantTurkey | than by looking at that output we can see how many times that gets called. |
| MutantTurkey | what do you think about that? |
| calamari | ah so what you're saying is kdeinit might just be finding multiple desktop files and executing them both |
| calamari | blueman has: /etc/xdg/autostart/blueman.desktop and /usr/share/applications/blueman-manager.desktop |
| calamari | would both of those be executed by kdeinit? |
| calamari | another possibility: if something is running when the system shuts down, and there is also an autostart entry, might that result in multiple runs? |
| calamari | so for the test, maybe a script that has an endless loop, so it's still running on shutdown? |
| Shdwdrgn | those are two of the copies I had found. I believe there were either two or three .desktop files found under /usr/share/, but not all of them were being run |
| calamari | although I don't quite understand how it decides what to start back up if something was already running, so maybe that's oversimplified |
| calamari | in case it matters, here was my bug report and fix for blueman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/blueman/+bug/979358 |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: bad news, seems that vala have its own bugs :) |
| samelian | vapigen won't generate corectly vapi files based on polkit |
| calamari | brb, trying a modified version of that autostart test |
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| calamari | well, results are in.. kdeinit is definitely running them twice |
| calamari | I'll go ahead and file a bug report |
| samelian | calamari: check if wicd don't try to autostart itself |
| calamari | samelian: this has nothing to do with wicd |
| samelian | one instance can be started by session restoration |
| calamari | I wrote a new program that simply creates a file in /tmp with the pid |
| samelian | and the other instance, by wicd autostart |
| calamari | there was no previous instance |
| samelian | try to deactivate session restore |
| calamari | I know it's hard to accept, but kdeinit is just running everything twice |
| calamari | this program was not running when I shut down |
| calamari | it's not persistent |
| calamari | it simply runs, creates the pid file and exits |
| calamari | I'll pastebin it for you, one mine |
| samelian | how you start the program? |
| calamari | I'll pastebin that too, here's the first paste http://pastebin.com/qp4SmAuC |
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| calamari | http://pastebin.com/FsYe5S7f |
| calamari | I just copied the wicd desktop file so there is a lot of generic text in there |
| samelian | calamari: I tried on KDE3 |
| samelian | but I put the .desktop file on /opt/kde3/share/autostart |
| samelian | because seems that kde3 ignore /etc/xdg |
| samelian | however, in this way, jlj.desktop is runned only once |
| samelian | maybe is a regression in trinity, I have no idea |
| MutantTurkey | :-[ sadface |
| MutantTurkey | on both of those things. |
| MutantTurkey | calamari: thats not hard ti accept |
| MutantTurkey | on kde3 is it fine? |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: what things? :) |
| MutantTurkey | 1. vala not working 2. launching twice |
| samelian | aa |
| samelian | well, for vala we can fill a bug report i guess |
| samelian | meantime I'm trying to understand gobject architecture |
| calamari | I'm still opening the bug report :) |
| calamari | I'm typing out all my research so it is taking a while |
| samelian | for small project like polkit agent, I think is not big deal to create glib code by hand |
| samelian | unfortunately an OOP programmer like me, is hard to swallow the concept of classes in plain C :) |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | i love C |
| MutantTurkey | C is my favorite |
| samelian | C is fine for small projects |
| MutantTurkey | it is great for large projects if you know how to code well |
| samelian | for more complicated project, is very verbose |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1095 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1095 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kopete should separate contacts from different accounts |
| MutantTurkey | meh. |
| MutantTurkey | I don't think C++ is really required all that often |
| samelian | C++ if nice because is unlikely to make memory leaks |
| samelian | if you use apropriate classes, ofc |
| calamari | samelian: is it okay if I include your results in the bug report? |
| samelian | sure, but i'm not sure that I made an apropriate check |
| samelian | because my .desktop file was not in /etc/xdg |
| calamari | I'll just quote exactly what you said |
| samelian | ok |
| calamari | it was kde 3.5 right? |
| samelian | yes, kind of :) |
| samelian | is an modified kde3, actually |
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| calamari | does trinity use /opt/kde3/share/autostart ? |
| calamari | I could retry the test with my desktop file there |
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| samelian | calamari: I think yes |
| samelian | try it |
| calamari | okay then I will try that |
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| calamari | path doesn't even exist hehe |
| calamari | I assume simply owned by root |
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| samelian | calamari: depends how your trinity is installed by distro |
| samelian | maybe is use /etc/xdg/autostart |
| calamari | well that's what I was already using |
| calamari | brb trying it |
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| calamari | it didn't execute at all.. maybe trinity does not look there |
| samelian | check where your trinity check for autostart files |
| calamari | how? |
| samelian | not sure, check in packages |
| samelian | how the packages are built |
| calamari | I'm not sure I understand you.. but the programs all seem to use /etc/xdg/autostart.. which is why I put my test jlj.desktop there too |
| calamari | I don't have access to any plain kde 3 packages, since ubuntu only has kde 4 now |
| samelian | try opensuse |
| samelian | in a virtual machine |
| samelian | it supports kde3 oficially, in a separate repo |
| samelian | http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3 |
| calamari | I think I am just going to file the bug |
| calamari | we can do more research later if needed |
| samelian | sure |
| calamari | (also I find SUSE distasteful, since they got in bed with microsoft, so I'd prefer not to use it) |
| MutantTurkey | same here |
| MutantTurkey | did you see tims announcement? |
| samelian | well, I tested opensuse with kde3 and is working very well |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: his kereberos/ldap announcement |
| samelian | i did not |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1096 filed by trinity@kidsquid.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1096 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdeinit runs everything in /etc/xdg/autostart twice |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1097 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1097 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, libjingle Video Chat support for Jabber/XMPP |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1098 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1098 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Multi-User Chat (Chat Rooms) in Kopete |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1099 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1099 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, App renaming issue 3.5.13 -> R14 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1100 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kopete in R14 crashing before starting |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1099 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1099 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, App renaming issue 3.5.13 -> R14 |
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| calamari | samelian: by looking at autostart.cpp I found out that the autostart dirs are in the XDG_CONFIG_DIRS environment variable.. for my system:XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-trinity:/etc/xdg:/opt/trinity/etc/xdg/:/etc/xdg/:/opt/trinity/etc/xdg/:/etc/xdg/ |
| samelian | aha |
| SlavekB | calamari: What do you use version? Original 3.5.13 or prepared 3.5.13.1? |
| calamari | I notice /etc/xdg/ twice, and /etc/xdg once |
| calamari | original 3.5.13 |
| samelian | maybe it runs twice because you have two /etc/xdg ? |
| SlavekB | Try to update to prepared 3.5.13.1. |
| calamari | is the trailing slash important? |
| calamari | if it's not, then it should run 3x hehe |
| calamari | SlavekB: is this problem fixed in 3.5.13.1? |
| SlavekB | I have: XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg:/etc/xdg and XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/share |
| calamari | what sets that variable? |
| SlavekB | In 3.5.13.1 have been many changes in startkde. |
| calamari | is 3.5.13.1 stable? |
| calamari | I was afraid to upgrade to it for fear of breaking my system |
| samelian | try to remove the both /etc/xdg/ |
| SlavekB | Original 3.5.13 is broken :) |
| samelian | and check what happens |
| calamari | samelian: yes I'd like to but first I need to figure out where it is being set |
| samelian | I think is in environment setup, i'm familiar with ubuntu |
| samelian | i'm not familiar* |
| calamari | SlavekB: if 3.5.13.1 becomes stable, then I will try it :) |
| SlavekB | :D 3.5.13.1 is now a lot more stable than 3.5.13 |
| MutantTurkey | 3.5.13.1 has been much more stable for much longer |
| calamari | ah okay I'll try it then, I was afraid it was just experimental |
| MutantTurkey | no its much better |
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| Zelator | hey guys |
| Zelator | how come nightlies link doesn't work? |
| MutantTurkey | Zelator: errr which link is that? |
| Zelator | well.. hang on |
| Zelator | ]https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/+packages?start=0&batch=300 |
| Zelator | oh |
| Zelator | wait.. |
| Zelator | it says the connection is untrusted... |
| MutantTurkey | heh |
| Zelator | my mistake |
| Zelator | i didn't even look at it |
| Zelator | but that's still weird |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1099 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1099 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, App renaming issue 3.5.13 -> R14 |
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| Zelator | where's squeeze repo for nightlies? |
| Zelator | i can't find it |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1101 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1101 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, pytdeextensions: Will not build on Slackware 13.37 32-bit |
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| calamari | this keeps timing out.. any ideas? apt-key adv --keyserver quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys 80479e11 |
| SlavekB | calamari: http://pastebin.com/hC9isyU6 |
| calamari | thanks |
| calamari | upgrading kdebase-trinity wants to remove kdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity and ksmserver-trinity.. is that okay? |
| SlavekB | no |
| calamari | oh it couldn't do it anywyas hehe |
| calamari | seems like that package doesn't do anything anyways, leaving it alone |
| SlavekB | They should also update those packages. |
| calamari | who is "they"? |
| SlavekB | dependecies |
| SlavekB | :) |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| calamari | ah figured out why I can't upgrade kdebase-trinity.. for some reason the new kdeprint-trinity conflicts with foomatc-db-compressed-ppds |
| calamari | when I mark kdeprint-trinity for upgrade then I can mark kdebase-trinity too.. but then I lose my foomatic-db- packages |
| SlavekB | Try to replace it by uncompressed ppds. |
| calamari | don't have that package available |
| calamari | anyhow no biggie, I'll just leave it downgraded.. brb reboot |
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| calamari | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg:/etc/xdg/xdg-trinity:/etc/xdg .. still got the dup wicds tho hehe |
| calamari | so I guess that's not the reason |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| calamari | testing mt dup script just to be sure, brb |
| calamari | *my |
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| tbottu | 10trinity@kidsquid.com changed the Status on bug 1066 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1066 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Cannot interact with the low disk space warning window, it is frozen |
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| calamari | kdesudo crashes for me on 3.5.13.1 |
| calamari | does it work for anyone else? |
| calamari | should I report bugs on the website now that I'm on 3.5.13.1? |
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| MutantTurkey | calamari: yes |
| MutantTurkey | but also mention it to SlavekB |
| MutantTurkey | he manages 3.5.13.1 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1102 filed by trinity@kidsquid.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1102 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesudo crashes when "OK" is chosen (SIGSEGV) [3.5.13.1] |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1103 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1103 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Rearrangeable items in the taskbar |
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| argv_turk | anyone have a thinkpad? |
| Space_Man | no |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1104 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1104 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konsole keyboard shortcuts for copy/paste |
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| MutantTurkey | anyone with a thinkpad :[ i need to test this out :/ |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1105 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1105 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Internet-capable apps need better network handling |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| MutantTurkey | anyone have an R14 box? |
| tbottu | 10yehjj@pchome.com.tw changed the Status on bug 1085 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1085 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kbuildsycoca crash after upgrade package trinity-systemsettings in Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10trin@3111skyline.com changed the Status on bug 1082 from NEW to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1082 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, Build issue: glibc 2.16 - tdelibs FTBFS kioslave rpcgen - cannot find any C preprocessor (cpp) |
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| MutantTurkey | sigh |
| calamari | good morning :) |
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| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| MutantTurkey | I am very tired |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I also badly getting up today :) |
| MutantTurkey | saturdays... |
| SlavekB | yeah :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1106 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1106 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDE should use system SSL certificates instead of now rather elderly ex-KDE bundle (patch) |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: finally i ported poolkit-gnome to kde3 :) |
| MutantTurkey | wow cool |
| MutantTurkey | and it is working? |
| MutantTurkey | very good! |
| samelian | yes, it working |
| samelian | but at this moment is a mess :) |
| samelian | I will try to run it via valgrind |
| samelian | to hunt for memory leaks |
| samelian | glib is a pain in the ass, bilions of mem allocs / frees |
| samelian | I really don't understand how the gnome development is so fast |
| samelian | I will try to use qt classes where is possible |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 847 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=847 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kde_logo.png: needs updating |
| MutantTurkey | is so fast? because it isn't written in crazy C++ |
| samelian | well, C++ simply a lot the programming process |
| samelian | at least when is using qt |
| samelian | the glib programs are very hard to undestand |
| samelian | and you need to ensure at any step to not forget to free the allocated memory |
| MutantTurkey | for me this is just natural |
| MutantTurkey | I am so used to mallocing and freeing (I primarily use C) that manually managing my memory is normal |
| samelian | hehe, is not so simple :) |
| samelian | sometimes you alloc memory in a file, and then you need to free it on another file |
| MutantTurkey | it is not complicated... you just need to remember |
| MutantTurkey | the concept is simple - mostly the problem is being forgetful :p |
| samelian | just check polkit-gnome and see if you can remeber something :) |
| MutantTurkey | the concept is pretty basic. take some memory, whne you are done with it - put it bakc |
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| samelian | I know the concept, but on very complex apps, wich a lot callbacks and signals/slots, is very difficult to track the thread |
| samelian | which = with |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | how is the glib thing progressing? |
| samelian | at this moment I'm using the timer, as I told you |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | timers seem to be rather inefficient though. I ran a similar issue porting over the khdaps applet yesterda |
| samelian | check it there: http://thel.ro/kde3/kde3-polkit-agent.tar.gz |
| MutantTurkey | basically it just checks every 250ms for eternity to see if anything is going on, because the hdasps daemon doesn't provide any interface to it whatsoever |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: is it on github as well? |
| samelian | not yet, because is a mess, as I told you |
| MutantTurkey | ah :-) |
| MutantTurkey | i am following you now |
| samelian | now I'm designing the authentication dialog |
| samelian | then I must to hunt for memory leaks |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: did you see bug 1102? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1102 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesudo crashes when "OK" is chosen (SIGSEGV) [3.5.13.1] |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: valgrind? |
| samelian | yes, valgrind |
| samelian | after finishing the polkit agent I will try to write a kdesu replacement based on polkit |
| samelian | actually is enough to run pkexec |
| samelian | and kde3 polkit agent will ask you for password |
| MutantTurkey | hmmmmm |
| MutantTurkey | interesting |
| MutantTurkey | sudo works very well for me.... |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1014 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1014 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] twin4/kwin4 does not play |
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| samelian | MutantTurkey: you have idea if I can load in kde3 gnome icons? |
| samelian | seems that QPixmap icon = KGlobal::iconLoader()->loadIcon("blabla") won't load |
| MutantTurkey | in kde3 you want to load gnome icons? |
| MutantTurkey | is this gtk3 or gtk2.6? |
| MutantTurkey | 26' |
| samelian | not sure |
| samelian | polkit give me some icon names |
| samelian | and I want to display it into authentication dialog |
| MutantTurkey | I am pretty sure It will respond with a gdkpixbuf |
| MutantTurkey | which is just an image in the memory |
| samelian | I think gnome icons should be xdg compliant |
| samelian | for example, polkit tell me "drive-removable-media" |
| MutantTurkey | so it is returning the names only? |
| samelian | yes |
| MutantTurkey | which names for example? |
| samelian | drive-removable-media |
| MutantTurkey | http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html |
| MutantTurkey | yes that follows the freedesktop spec |
| samelian | yep |
| samelian | I need to figure out how to load it |
| samelian | or maybe kde3 should figure out how to translate it in kde3 icon name |
| MutantTurkey | doesn't it follow the same names> |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinitydesktop.org/docs/trinity/current/kdelibs/kdecore/html/classKIconLoader.html |
| samelian | I tried KGlobal::iconLoader |
| samelian | I will try KIconLoader too, thx for hint |
| MutantTurkey | ok :-) |
| MutantTurkey | did it work samelian? |
| samelian | it load something like invalid image |
| samelian | I have drive-removable-media.png in /usr/share/icons |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: please show me your "set | grep XDG" |
| MutantTurkey | 72:XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg:/etc/xdg/xdg-trinity:/etc/xdg |
| MutantTurkey | 73:XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/share/trinity:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/ |
| MutantTurkey | 74:XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=e8d3a59e6052c252fc9dc15b00000006-1342223845.247458-1252166164 |
| samelian | thx |
| MutantTurkey | still no go? |
| samelian | nope |
| samelian | maybe kde3 is not xdg compliant |
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| MutantTurkey | xdg is freedesktop? |
| MutantTurkey | I think trinity is though... |
| samelian | yes |
| samelian | well, I studied deeper |
| samelian | even I have /usr/share/icons in xdg |
| samelian | i think kde3 don't know which theme to use |
| samelian | there is hicolor, but does not have drive-removable-media.png |
| samelian | i guess we need to update icons to respect freedesktop specs |
| samelian | yep, I copied drive-removable-media.png to /usr/share/icons/hicolor |
| samelian | and now polkit agent can display ot |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I was long gone. |
| SlavekB | I saw the 1102 error, but I looking someone else to confirm it. |
| SlavekB | On Squeeze for me it works without problems. |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB:ah |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: wow cool |
| MutantTurkey | so basically our icon set isn |
| MutantTurkey | doesn't have those icons? |
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| samelian | exactly, we don't follow freedesktop specs |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1102 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1102 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kdesudo crashes when "OK" is chosen (SIGSEGV) [3.5.13.1] |
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| Fresh_meat2_ | Hi guys |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1107 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1107 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KBugBuster default server wrong |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 379 as a duplicate of bug 503. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=379 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, kmix will not appear in the system tray |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=503 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, kmix wont autostart |
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| andy1 | I am trying to uninstall kde trinity on linux mint but I get an error wit kcm_server |
| andy1 | how do I uninstall kde trinity properly? |
| andy1 | actually, it's ksmserver-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1108 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1108 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kontact handling of malfunctioning or crashed components |
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| Vasistha | for some reason, trinity always starts with the wrong resolution, 1152x864 instead of 1920x1080. It does this whether gdm or kdm-trinity is the backend. xfce starts with the proper resolution, 1920x1080, again regardless of backend |
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| SlavekB | Vasistha: wrong resolution has already kdm / gdm? |
| Vasistha | SlavekB: I'm pretty sure kdm/gdm have the proper resolution - how can I be sure of it? |
| Vasistha | I say that because when trinity starts, it looks like there is a mode switch; but when xfce starts there is no such mode switch |
| SlavekB | Used resolution could be seen in Xorg.0.log. |
| Vasistha | oh I think I just found it, an old vestige, /etc/X11/Xsession.d looks like it is forcing resolution modes |
| Vasistha | oh yay! fixed! |
| SlavekB | (Y) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1109 filed by bzanetti00@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1109 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Cannot choose QtCurve style |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1110 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1110 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdmtheme: Package should be renamed |
| * joeytwiddle is now running KDE3 apps on an AMD64 :D | |
| joeytwiddle | wrote that in the wrong channel before. #kde scumbags! |
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| Vasistha | When I double-click to open a word doc in crossover/word, the window "requests attention" but does not automatically pop up to the top. Is it possible to make it come to the top rather than just requesting attention? |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com marked bug 481 as a duplicate of bug 1073. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=481 needs packaging, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, k3b i18n missing, wrong dependencies |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1073 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, K3b localization missing |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1111 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1111 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, K3B: Fails to recognize certain ISO images |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 178 from RESOLVED WORKSFORME to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=178 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, ISO files should double-click open with kio_iso |
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| tbottu | 10trinity@kidsquid.com changed the Status on bug 1102 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1102 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdesudo crashes when "OK" is chosen (SIGSEGV) [3.5.13.1] |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1112 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1112 major, P5, ---, humanreadable, NEW, Some Kopete protocols (like ICQ) and all plugins are missing |
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| AikiLinux | Hello , has anyone encountered the issue of "GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0) " on kubuntu trinity mavric x86_64 ? |
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| SlavekB | AikiLinux: when it appears? |
| AikiLinux | on boot and resuming from suspend |
| SlavekB | glib looks like something from gtk => gnome. |
| SlavekB | I have to go |
| SlavekB | bye |
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| samelian | SlavekB: glib is not necessarily related to gnome |
| samelian | most of freedesktop daemon are written with glib |
| samelian | I think that trinity itself needs glib |
| samelian | at least in arts |
| SlavekB | good point |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1113 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1113 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpod should be available |
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| MutantTurkey | awn |
| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Hmm, here is 3:18 am ;) |
| MutantTurkey | go to bed! |
| SlavekB | :D |
| MutantTurkey | you are crazy |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| SlavekB | I will send one more package to compile :) |
| MutantTurkey | you ROCK! |
| SlavekB | I promise - it will be last package for now :) |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
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| jbeatty | Has anyone here ever used Trinity on the Yeeloong? |
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| SlavekB | jbeatty: Until now I did not know Yeeloong. |
| SlavekB | jbeatty: Trinity is currently compiled only for i386, amd64 and armel. For mips not. |
| jbeatty | SlavekB: In that case, I shall package it for mips myself. :) I shall report back to the community how it results. |
| SlavekB | jbeatty: Great. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1114 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1114 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kcontrol -> Configure TDE Panel -> Panel Background - Preview Not Updated |
| SlavekB | jbeatty: Do you want to build 3.5.13.1 (forthcoming) or R14? |
| jbeatty | SlavekB: I will probably build the most recent stable source; I am already probably going to find bugs due to architecture |
| jbeatty | if I am successful with that, I may try and build release candidates and unstable versions as well. :) I am using Parabola GNU/Linux, a variant as Arch, so I am not afraid of unstable software. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1115 filed by trinity@kidsquid.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1115 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Pager does not allow screen to be changed for maximized windows (via thumbnail) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1117 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1117 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDED: Rename to avoid conflicts with KDE4 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1118 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1118 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, twin4: Start player color is opposite of settings |
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| dannyb85 | hey guys |
| dannyb85 | are there any package repositories for updating ubuntu 10.04 with trinity from 3.5.11 to a newer version? |
| dannyb85 | nvm |
| dannyb85 | found it |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1119 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1119 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Multiple FTBFS (k3b, k9copy, krusader, kchmviewer) issues post glibc 2.16 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1120 filed by kaz.mitu.ito@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1120 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, In a TDE session, X11 forwarding is very slow or causes KWin to crash |
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| tbottu | 10andy4stuff@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 469 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=469 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, soundkonverter-amarok-trinity dependicy problem |
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| schreiberstein | Hi! |
| Fresh_meat2 | hi |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: I've switched back to ArchLinux and I'd like to build Trinity from source. Or are there ready-to-use packages in the pipeline? |
| MutantTurkey | you should ask David Rankin |
| MutantTurkey | ok? |
| Fresh_meat2 | schreiberstein: you can use abs to compile them |
| Fresh_meat2 | but be aware than you should do that with a proper environment |
| Fresh_meat2 | and there is only kdebase |
| schreiberstein | Fresh_meat2: on the arch wiki it says : "The pkgbuilds in AUR are dated. There has been rapid change to accommodate gcc47 and libpng15" |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: yeah.. ok :-) |
| schreiberstein | MutantTurkey: what's his nick on irc? |
| MutantTurkey | none you'll need to email him |
| schreiberstein | okay |
| MutantTurkey | let me grab the address |
| MutantTurkey | got it? |
| schreiberstein | yes, thanks |
| MutantTurkey | rgreag |
| MutantTurkey | t |
| MutantTurkey | great |
| MutantTurkey | let me know if it works out |
| schreiberstein | okay |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
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| schreiberstein | sent it |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1121 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1121 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Wanted: kio_ftps |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1122 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1122 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kscreensaver does not hide tooltips |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz marked bug 1122 as a duplicate of bug 1079. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1079 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tooltips remain on screen when lock engaged |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1123 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1123 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Please add KOrganizer holiday region for Slovakia |
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| rzs19 | hey guys. |
| rzs19 | any news about 3.5.13.1? |
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| MutantTurkey | good morning everyone |
| rzs19 | good morning, everything right? |
| rzs19 | any news about 3.5.13.1? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: ? |
| SlavekB | Hold on - I will write later today - now I am busy :( |
| MutantTurkey | k |
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| SlavekB | About 3.5.13.1: I walk through the tde-packaging, selecting useful patches for 3.5.13.1 and preparing (hopefully) final versions of the packages. |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, there is now a problem with the builds, because build-farm is not yet in operation. |
| SlavekB | At this time: 170 pending builds :) |
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| MobileTurkey | your build farm? |
| SlavekB | No, my build environment works. |
| SlavekB | Tim's build-farm is currently out of service. |
| MobileTurkey | oh |
| SlavekB | What would you be interested: I have changed my decision regarding Precise. |
| MobileTurkey | and? |
| MobileTurkey | will you release for Precise or not? |
| SlavekB | It will not "after" release 3.5.13.1, but "together". :) |
| MobileTurkey | I am starting to get wearly of using oneiric |
| calamari | isn't precise in 3.5.13.1 already? |
| SlavekB | On the contrary ;) |
| calamari | I am using this: deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu precise main |
| SlavekB | (Y) |
| SlavekB | Number of packages still missing, but enough is already prepared: |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise&start=0&batch=150 |
| calamari | yeah thats true some is missing |
| calamari | somethings wrong with the security on that site |
| SlavekB | ? |
| calamari | "This Connection is Untrusted. You have asked Firefox to connect securely to quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified." |
| SlavekB | That's fine - the certificate is not from the publisher. |
| calamari | ahh just noticed that "quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed." |
| calamari | no problem then |
| SlavekB | calamari: As you noticed Precise packages in my ppa? So far I have not announce it anywhere :) |
| calamari | SlavekB: when I add a repo, I've made it a habit to got to the website to see which dists are available :) |
| calamari | so I found it from http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/ubuntu/dists/ |
| calamari | err thats wrong |
| calamari | but anyhow you get the idea |
| calamari | (copy pasted too quickly hehe) |
| SlavekB | Correct (Y) |
| calamari | so far the only problem I have is that I can't upgrade kdeprint-trinity due to the conflict with foomatic-db-compressed-ppds |
| calamari | so it stays at the 3.5.13 version, along with kdebase-trinity |
| calamari | I'm using a foomatic driver for my printer, so I'm afraid to let it remove that package |
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| SlavekB | calamari: If you use cups, so he has copies of ppd in /etc/cups/ppd. |
| calamari | do you know why the packages conflict? |
| calamari | or did someone else decide that? |
| SlavekB | See bug 697 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=697 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, print wizard missing drivers, postscript Ubuntu/NATTY |
| calamari | ah I see. I'd set up my printer under either lxde or kde 4 |
| calamari | looking at the package details, it seems to suggest that foomatic-db does not contain as many drivers |
| calamari | sounds like I should see if I can get tdelibs/tdeprint/foomatic to work with that foomatic-db-compressed-ppds script |
| SlavekB | In any case, foomatic-db-compressed-ppds is need only "during" adding a printer to CUPS. |
| calamari | I see |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 858 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=858 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Kaffeine missing localization files |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 503 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=503 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kmix wont autostart |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1096 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1096 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kdeinit runs everything in /etc/xdg/autostart twice |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1124 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1124 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Regression - Input Actions Stopped Working (prtscr - ksnapshot, etc...) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1096 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1096 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdeinit runs everything in /etc/xdg/autostart twice |
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| Z_God | ugh twin is really broken... |
| Z_God | the nightly version crashes even when running Wine 1.5 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1125 filed by julius@zgod.cjb.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1125 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Nightly twin crashes when running Wine 1.5 |
| MobileTurkey | what happened? |
| MobileTurkey | Z_God: did you get a backtrace. |
| MobileTurkey | seems that the wicd bug has been resolved! |
| Z_God | MobileTurkey: it's in the bug |
| MobileTurkey | ? |
| Z_God | you see tbottu's message? |
| MobileTurkey | yes |
| MobileTurkey | awesome :-) |
| Z_God | hope twin can be ditched soon really |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 503 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=503 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kmix wont autostart |
| MobileTurkey | why? |
| Z_God | there are also still these focus stealing bugs |
| MobileTurkey | works for me... |
| MobileTurkey | yeah sometimes I get small bugs |
| Z_God | they've been there for years |
| MobileTurkey | i'd rather have them resoved than ditch the whole wm |
| Z_God | when twin crashes, I just type kwin |
| MobileTurkey | :p |
| Z_God | and it loads & works fast really |
| MobileTurkey | it does not work fast on my old computer very well |
| MobileTurkey | i do not like the themes available and the integration i like is missing |
| MobileTurkey | all other things of it are great i will admit |
| Z_God | the most important thing is it following all the specs |
| Z_God | this is just crazy complicated |
| Z_God | kwin is going to completely loose it's dependency on kde4 btw |
| Z_God | I watched the video with Martin's presentation |
| Z_God | damn tim is fast today |
| Z_God | seems it's a bug somewhere else |
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| MobileTurkey | I know |
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| Fresh_meat2 | what's going on with kwin ? |
| MobileTurkey | whooo cares!!! audit the fed passed!!! |
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| Z_God | Fresh_meat2: there is a goal to use kwin instead of twin in trinity with proper integration |
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| Fresh_meat2 | you mean kwin from kde4 ? |
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| Fresh_meat2 | anyone know what are TDEMacros ? |
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| MobileTurkey | no? |
| MobileTurkey | what are they |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1125 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1125 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Nightly twin crashes when running Wine 1.5 |
| Fresh_meat2 | dunno I am stuck with them missing for compiling tqtinterface |
| Fresh_meat2 | or maybe I am missing something ... |
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| Z_God | Fresh_meat2: yes |
| Z_God | although the kwin build that'll be used with trinity will likely be different from the one that's used for kde4 |
| Fresh_meat2 | Z_God: You guys are seriously crazy :D |
| Z_God | why? |
| Fresh_meat2 | cause that sound incredible |
| Fresh_meat2 | at last for me |
| Fresh_meat2 | I mean lots of works |
| Z_God | I'm not sure what you mean |
| Z_God | you can already switch twin for another window manager |
| Fresh_meat2 | meany headach |
| Z_God | just kill it & run another one |
| Fresh_meat2 | yes but you won't use the stock kwin |
| Fresh_meat2 | "[20:38:01] <Z_God> kwin is going to completely loose it's dependency on kde4 btw" |
| Z_God | the kwin developers are adding some compilation options to reduce the amount of depencendies |
| Fresh_meat2 | ha ok |
| Z_God | we can just use them |
| Z_God | you should watch Martin's video from the recent conference |
| Z_God | he talked about it there |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1126 filed by webadmin@bu-trans.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1126 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaddressbook with carddav crashes on connect with OwnCloud |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1126 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1126 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kaddressbook with carddav crashes on connect with OwnCloud |
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| Gnudnik | I upgraded from squeeze to testing/wheezy; I'd removed the trinity repos first and some but not all of the trinity packages. Now ksmserver-trinity is broken and refuses to uninstall, preventing me from install other packages. dpkg-divert: error: mismatch on package http://pastebin.com/S0n6cXhc Any suggestions? |
| Gnudnik | when removing `diversion of /usr/bin/plasma by ksmserver-trinity' found `local diversion of /usr/bin/plasma to /usr/bin/plasma.kde4' |
| Gnudnik | dpkg: error processing ksmserver-trinity (--remove): |
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| Gnudnik | Guess I should come back during business hours. |
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| schreiberstein | hi |
| Fresh_meat2 | hi |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1112 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1112 major, P5, ---, humanreadable, RESOLVED FIXED, Some Kopete protocols (like ICQ) and all plugins are missing |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 914 from PATCHAVAIL to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=914 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, Can't disable Recent Documents mechanism |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 692 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=692 major, P1, ---, mutantturkey, NEEDINFO, Kate: focus is broken when using the --use parameter |
| MutantTurkey | sigh |
| Fresh_meat2 | hi MutantTurkey |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| Fresh_meat2 | what's up |
| schreiberstein | Hello MutantTurkey ! I asked David C. Rankin about the arch packages : He said, that he actually has ready-to-use packages, but no place where to host them. He's going to ask on an arch linux mailing list if there is a guy who'd like to host the packages. I hope he'll find one soon |
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| schreiberstein | i want trinity soooo bad :-( |
| schreiberstein | i'll try to build the packages again.. last time it crashed |
| schreiberstein | because of some wrong paths in the PKGBUILD |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: Y0!!! |
| MutantTurkey | HEY!!!!!! |
| l0ner | I'm (kinda) back |
| MutantTurkey | we had a guy to host it... schreiberstien |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: awesome :-) |
| MutantTurkey | whats up dude? |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: what's up? anything strange happened when I was away?? |
| MutantTurkey | we actually are about to get lunch |
| MutantTurkey | nothing much |
| l0ner | :) |
| MutantTurkey | not much at all |
| l0ner | I'm going throught my C++ bible, learning |
| l0ner | And I have this will to get TQT, tdelibs, and other stuff, throw it into blender and make one framework from those. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1027 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1027 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Various build fixes |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: nice C++ bible |
| MutantTurkey | back from lunch btw |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1127 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1127 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kate: Add the ability to force Kate into MDI mode all the time |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 692 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=692 major, P1, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, Kate: focus is broken when using the --use parameter |
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| l0ner | MutantTurkey: was it good? |
| l0ner | and I'm thinking about dinner |
| MutantTurkey | yes yes |
| l0ner | c++ bible: 1300pages |
| l0ner | pretty much everything |
| l0ner | but it's kinda boring, since some things I did in school |
| l0ner | but I'm mussing awful lot of things too |
| l0ner | *missing |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I am not very thorough with my C++ knowledge |
| l0ner | mine is pretty much basic, that's why I want to go throught the whole book |
| l0ner | besides, my teacher wasn't very good with c++, it was more me teaching her, than her teaching me |
| l0ner | since, I started c++ befor i got into high school |
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| l0ner | time to get back to codin' |
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| MutantTurkey | any projects yo're working on? |
| l0ner | not really |
| l0ner | besides my website :P |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | hehe |
| l0ner | I'm devoting my time to learning c++ and JavaScript |
| MutantTurkey | yuck JS |
| l0ner | since I need c++ to begin cracking on the trinity framework (like i said I want to unite all the framework we have: experiment). |
| l0ner | and I want to learn jQuery, which is, JS |
| l0ner | yeah, JS is strange |
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| l0ner | and I'll need to learn Java... god why? |
| MutantTurkey | what specifically do you want to do with trinity? |
| l0ner | get TQT, tdelibs, arts, and whathewer we have in bottom layer, and unify it under one modular framework |
| MutantTurkey | oh cool |
| l0ner | yeah, I don't like kde4 primarly because it has a ton of bottom lvl deps |
| l0ner | and trinity is only little better |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| l0ner | deps on to of framework on top of compatibility layer on top of framework, on top of other deps... |
| l0ner | oh, and there's stll the trinity website i have layng n my github, waiting to get fnished xD |
| MutantTurkey | makes sense |
| MutantTurkey | l0ner: the currnet one is doing well |
| schreiberstein | trinity projects needs a better server :-( |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: i wanted to redesign it a little |
| l0ner | and maybe make it git-based |
| MutantTurkey | maybe |
| MutantTurkey | schreiberstein: complain to timothy |
| MutantTurkey | I have... |
| schreiberstein | yeah.. i think i said it a while ago |
| l0ner | damn, living alone is hard |
| l0ner | I need to make my own food |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | get a grill. |
| schreiberstein | ^^ |
| schreiberstein | or a toaster |
| MutantTurkey | both |
| l0ner | xD |
| schreiberstein | XD |
| l0ner | well, I'll need to only for 2 weeks |
| l0ner | then my contract here ends and I'm returning home (hopefully) |
| MutantTurkey | where? |
| l0ner | to my parents |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| l0ner | right now I'm working in agrotourism |
| l0ner | and they need me to stay here, since it's really remote location |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| l0ner | damn, the thing I hate about cooking: I never know how much I need the things cook... |
| MutantTurkey | lol I love it |
| l0ner | I kinda like it too |
| l0ner | but I never know how much I need to keep the things on the stove :P |
| l0ner | I don't want to burn things, and at the same time I don't want to take them too early |
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| l0ner | damn, tommorow I'll need to go earlier to close pool umbrellas |
| l0ner | it's dark as shit now |
| l0ner | and here dark == boars, boars everywhere |
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| l0ner | Damn, I don't know if should I get myself used dell latitude xt2 or try to recover my old acer laptop... |
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| schreiberstein_ | I'm trying to build trinity (from git) on arch using david c rankin's pkgbuilds. but i'm stuck at tqtinterface : moc was NOT found. |
| schreiberstein_ | what is actually missing? |
| schreiberstein_ | i installed moc, which is a console music player.. i guess this isn't the thing it means, right? |
| schreiberstein_ | ahh.. got it |
| schreiberstein_ | it was renamed to tqt3moc |
| schreiberstein_ | same as qmake/tqmake |
| schreiberstein_ | *renamed to tqmoc |
| schreiberstein_ | -- |
| schreiberstein_ | yeah! it built successfully |
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| schreiberstein_ | is any trinity dev / maintainer still online? |
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| schreiberstein_ | good night |
| schreiberstein_ | uahh... ZZZzzzz |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1128 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1128 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror TDevelop profile tabs point to KDE web sites |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1129 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1129 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDED: Two services have no description in the KControl configuration |
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| schreiberstein | i'm trying to build compiz 0.8.6 manually on my arch system |
| schreiberstein | but i don't know how to include /opt/trinity/include and /opt/tqt3/include and the libs in the ./configure |
| schreiberstein | i tried CFLAGS=-I/opt/trinity/include, but it says : checking for KWin headers... kdecoration.h kcommondecoration.h kdecorationbridge.h plasma/framesvg.h not found |
| schreiberstein | if one knows a solution, please mail me : schreiberstein [at] google-mail |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1130 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1130 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Branch v3.5.13-sru -- Additional commits/fixes |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1131 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1131 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kate - opening project with remote files should not create a connection dialog for each file |
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| Leoparty-1337 | Hello! I know that this is the trinity channel, but i have a guestion regarding kde 3.5.10 |
| Leoparty-1337 | i'm actually trying to build kdemod3/kde3 on archlinux |
| Leoparty-1337 | i built qt3, kde-common, arts, but i can't build kdelibs |
| Leoparty-1337 | because of this : http://pastebin.com/L58X1wMN |
| Leoparty-1337 | i guess this is an issue with autoconf. is there a patch for this, or did i forget something? |
| SlavekB | Leoparty-1337: You trying to build old unmaintained KDE 3.5.10 on the current Arch? |
| Leoparty-1337 | SlavekB: right |
| SlavekB | Leoparty-1337: Crazy idea... :) |
| Leoparty-1337 | yeah.. but i never did it |
| Leoparty-1337 | i'm curious |
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| SlavekB | Leoparty-1337: You should have a better chance if you tried to build Trinity. |
| Leoparty-1337 | i don't think it will be that hard because there is the kde-sunset archive at gentoo, who are supplying patches for the old unmaintained kde3 |
| Leoparty-1337 | SlavekB: i tried, but it failed.. |
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| SlavekB | Leoparty-1337: Which version? |
| Leoparty-1337 | kdemod3 was an arch-linux-tuned kde3 distribution, and i'd really like to rebuild it. it was awesome back in the day |
| Leoparty-1337 | SlavekB: trinity : 3.5.14 git |
| Leoparty-1337 | it failed because of the pkgbuild, the buildscripts on archlinux |
| Leoparty-1337 | they're outdated and didn't work |
| Leoparty-1337 | i asked david c. rankin about it, but he didn't reply yet. |
| SlavekB | Arch unfortunately I do not know. |
| SlavekB | David is the most competent person in Trinity for Arch. |
| Leoparty-1337 | yeah, he definetly is.. |
| Leoparty-1337 | SlavekB: do you have any idea how i could fix the issue shown in the paste? |
| Leoparty-1337 | maybe i just have to add a path to autoconf or so.. i don't know.. i never used it before |
| SlavekB | What version of automake requires KDE? Version 1.12 is not too new? |
| Leoparty-1337 | i don't think that automake is too new. archlinux' official repos contain kdelibs3 (3.5.10), which were built in february 2012. they don't need another automake version. otherwise they would be in the dependency list. |
| Leoparty-1337 | i guess it's autoconf |
| Leoparty-1337 | but even the official package can't be built using todays autoconf |
| Leoparty-1337 | http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/kdelibs3/ |
| Leoparty-1337 | it should work using the stock version off all tools. |
| Leoparty-1337 | i'll have a look at autoMAKE |
| Leoparty-1337 | maybe there was a recent update on arch, who broke compatibility |
| SlavekB | Suspicious to me: |
| SlavekB | cat: Binary: No such file or directorycat: file: No such file or directorycat: matches: No such file or directory |
| SlavekB | Is there hidden: "Binary file matches" |
| SlavekB | So output from diff. |
| Leoparty-1337 | i'm sorry, i don't understand what you mean. |
| SlavekB | It is in your build log. |
| Leoparty-1337 | yes |
| Leoparty-1337 | but why does it search for "Binary"? |
| SlavekB | I have no idea what is compared before this. |
| Leoparty-1337 | ahh.. now i got what you mean |
| Leoparty-1337 | hmm.. that's odd |
| SlavekB | The output "Binary File Matches" there had to get out of a previous call to diff. |
| Leoparty-1337 | yes.. is this abnormal behaviour? |
| SlavekB | It is abnormal that the output from diff is taken as the filename ('cat' attempt to this). |
| SlavekB | Check the patches that are applied. |
| SlavekB | The "Binary files Matches" could be in one of the patches. |
| Leoparty-1337 | ahh.. ok.. now i see.. i'll have a look at them. |
| Leoparty-1337 | cat *.patch | grep Binary shows me "+ "bc=\xrefitem bc \"Binary Compatible\" \"Binary Compatible\"" \" but i don't think this has something to do with it. |
| SlavekB | It's probably not what we are looking for. |
| Leoparty-1337 | hmm. |
| Leoparty-1337 | i don't think the patches have somethign to do with it because the orginal arch package, which has a different patch set, doesn't work either. and as it has been built successfully a few months ago, the patches should be fine |
| Leoparty-1337 | hmm.. i think it's because automake/conf is too new. i'll get myself an older version. |
| Leoparty-1337 | i need some sleep... it's 2am in germany.. i'll continue this afternoon. |
| Leoparty-1337 | SlavekB: thanks for your help |
| SlavekB | I am in Czech - here also 2 am ;) |
| Leoparty-1337 | :-D |
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| SlavekB | Yet I look on problems with ffmpeg for k9copy... |
| Leoparty-1337 | ok then.. if you or some other guy find a way how to fix it or what causes the problem, please mail me -> schreiberstein [at] g00gle mail .com |
| Leoparty-1337 | i never used k9copy.. just k3b.. good luck |
| Leoparty-1337 | ciao |
| SlavekB | night |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1132 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1132 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdebase FTBFS without HAL |
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| MutantTurkey | weeep wooob |
| calamari | hi |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1133 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1133 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Missing LDFLAGS in autotools causing several FTBFS on Mageia 2 |
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| rzs19 | "The graphics subsystem (X11) is network transparent and provides IPC. So let's build our own IPC system, that's not network transparent (DBus)." i love it :D |
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| Z_God | rzs19: dbus works system wide, x11 is limited to an X11 server instance |
| Z_God | I do not really think they can be compared in any way |
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| rzs19 | Z_God: i know, but in this scope, i mean desktop environments. |
| Z_God | ok, I don't know about, but your remark is more related to DCOP in that sense |
| Z_God | DBUS was mostly a successor of DCOP |
| rzs19 | wait, DCOP uses X11 RPC Calls., or i'm wrong? |
| Z_God | I don't think it does |
| Z_God | but I'm not sure |
| rzs19 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCOP |
| Z_God | there is some interaction with x11 now that I think of it though |
| Z_God | I was debugging it a while ago |
| Z_God | but then the question is more along the lines of 'Was DCOP used with special network transparancy?' and 'Would DBus need network transparancy?' |
| Z_God | can DCOP applications running on different hosts, but the same X11 server communicate with each other? |
| Z_God | and what about DBus applications in this case |
| * Z_God has no clue :) | |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1134 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1134 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDEEDU FTBFS when linking with --no-undefined |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1135 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1135 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdegraphics does not detect imlib2 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1136 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1136 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: Tdegraphics installs poppler-tqt headers in hardcoded "kde" subdirectory |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1133 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1133 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: Missing LDFLAGS in autotools causing several FTBFS on Mageia 2 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1137 filed by yehjj@pchome.com.tw. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1137 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, yum update fail with package trinity-tdenetwork in Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1138 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1138 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdenetwork does not support parallel build |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1137 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1137 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, yum update fail with package trinity-tdenetwork in Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1139 filed by russell@lls.lls.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1139 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, R14.0 nightly ships tdmdistrc which refers to /etc/trinity/kdm... and overrides tdmrc. |
| rzs19 | Z_God: my laste state was that DCOP is network transparency and DBUS not, maybe i'm wrong and its a long time ago, since i read about it. Maybe i should set the DISPLAY variable to antoher host and test an application which is using DCOP and antoher one, which uses DBUS. |
| rzs19 | forget wayland and x11, lets stark gecko, or the webkit engine inside framebuffer and write our applications in js and hrtml5 :D |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1140 filed by russell@lls.lls.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1140 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, All TDE components seg fault when starttde run from freenx |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 1140 as a duplicate of bug 1006. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1140 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, All TDE components seg fault when starttde run from freenx |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1006 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, XRandR-aware programs crash on screen event |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1141 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1141 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMail cannot start process for imaps |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1142 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1142 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdebindings, dcopc header install in wrong directory |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1142 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1143 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1143 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kuickshow documentation is built even when kuickshow is not built |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1144 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1144 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: some include files installed under hardcoded 'kde' subdir |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1144 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1144 enhancement, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: some include files installed under hardcoded 'kde' subdir |
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| MutantTurkey | weeeop |
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| tbottu | 10yehjj@pchome.com.tw changed the Status on bug 1137 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1137 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, yum update fail with package trinity-tdenetwork in Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 791 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=791 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Akode: add the akode arts plugin to the Trinity repository |
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| tbottu | 10linux@rainbow-software.org changed the Status on bug 1123 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1123 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Please add KOrganizer holiday region for Slovakia |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1145 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1145 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: bibletime FTBFS on Mageia 2 |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1145 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1145 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: bibletime FTBFS on Mageia 2 |
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| schreiberstein | hi |
| MutantTurkey | hey man |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| schreiberstein | i'm about to build some trinity packages.. again :-) |
| schreiberstein | and you? |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
| MutantTurkey | working |
| MutantTurkey | but all next week I am going to the beach!!! |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| schreiberstein | cool |
| schreiberstein | i hope the weather will be nice then |
| MutantTurkey | yes I think it will be |
| schreiberstein | this summer is quite hot.. |
| schreiberstein | i hate such summers |
| schreiberstein | its always too hot |
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| schreiberstein | nevermind |
| MutantTurkey | it is hot... |
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| the_ace | hello, need some help with getting TDE to run on fedora 17 |
| the_ace | how do I get it auto start upon boot up ? |
| the_ace | right now if I execute startx or kdm, it goes in the kdm but nothing comes on boot up |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1073 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1073 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, K3b localization missing |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1146 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1146 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: fusion-icon does not install python module in python_sitelib |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1146 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1147 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1147 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kbfx use hardcoded directories in cmake macros |
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| schreiberstein | Hello |
| schreiberstein | I'm trying to build TDE (dev_14 from GIT) on my Arch Linux machine using David C. Rankin's PKGBUILDs. Unfortunately I'm unable to build tdelibs because of CUPS 1.6 (at least that's what i think). |
| schreiberstein | http://pastebin.com/LQFFjNy1 |
| schreiberstein | Is there a patch for this? |
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| schreiberstein | -> or a solution |
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| schreiberstein | nevermind... i wrote david c. rankin an email |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1148 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1148 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: pykdeextensions 3.5.13 FTBFS on Mandriva 2011 x86_64 |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1148 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1148 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: pykdeextensions 3.5.13 FTBFS on Mandriva 2011 x86_64 |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1148 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1148 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: pykdeextensions 3.5.13 FTBFS on Mandriva 2011 x86_64 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1149 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1149 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdesvn FTBFS with "not a string literal error". |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1150 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1150 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kmymoney FTBFS with --no-undefined |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1151 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1151 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kmymoney installs QT3 plugins in wrong directory |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1152 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1152 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: koffice FTBFS when --no-undefined is set |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1153 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1153 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kopete-otr ftbfs when --no-undefined is set |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1154 filed by assoricks@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1154 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdelibs can't be built with CUPS 1.6 |
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| schreiberstein | btw. assoricks is my second nickname |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1155 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1155 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpicosim FTBFS: not a string literal error |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1156 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1156 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, *** glibc detected *** kded [tdeinit] --new-startup: corrupted double-linked list: 0x081eb0b0 *** |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1157 filed by yehjj@pchome.com.tw. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1157 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, yum update fail with package trinity-k3b in Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1157 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1157 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, yum update fail with package trinity-k3b in Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1158 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1158 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kstreamripper HTML documentation in wrong folder |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1159 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1159 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kvirc fails to detect TDE directory |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1160 filed by tdecoulon@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1160 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror regularly crashes on exit |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1161 filed by tdecoulon@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1161 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kicker says it crashed, but actually seems to work |
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| tbottu | 10yehjj@pchome.com.tw changed the Status on bug 1157 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1157 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, yum update fail with package trinity-k3b in Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1162 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1162 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, libcups (1.6.x) breaks tdelibs kdeprint/cups |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 1162 as a duplicate of bug 1154. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1162 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, libcups (1.6.x) breaks tdelibs kdeprint/cups |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1154 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdelibs can't be built with CUPS 1.6 |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1074 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1074 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Switch application language does not work at all |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1163 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1163 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kcmshell lilo crash when lilo config file is absent |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1164 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1164 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kcmshell wineconfig crash because command "wineprefixcreate" not found |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Component on bug 1074 from tdelibs to tdebase. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1074 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Switch application language does not work at all |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1074 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1074 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Switch application language does not work at all |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1165 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1165 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: compizconfig-backend-kconfig FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 724 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=724 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kgtk-wrapper doesn't work with firefox and gimp |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1143 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1143 enhancement, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kuickshow documentation is built even when kuickshow is not built |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1154 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1154 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, tdelibs can't be built with CUPS 1.6 |
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| echotrap | good afternoon, (here anyways) I got a bunch of question regarding how trinity (or KDE3.5) implements the namegiving on usb/cd/dvd storage devices. I am running KDE-version 4:3.5.12 on a slightly aged kubuntu/trinity 10.04 installation. |
| echotrap | Anyone around that might clue me into the right direction of what to edit in order to make devices show up as "/media/sda8 (81GB)" instead of a very nondestinctive "81G Media" on the desktop? |
| SlavekB | echotrap: I would say that the name uses the name of the file system - see blkid. |
| SlavekB | echotrap: And if the filesystem has no name, device name + size is used. |
| echotrap | the file systems I try to mount from USB HDD are actually named mixed partitions (fat32/ntfs/ext2/3/) with names like "root" / "user" /"winxpsp2" |
| echotrap | they show in the /media directory as /media/sdb1... |
| echotrap | but the desktop icon created for them is only showing the size.. |
| echotrap | I do remember though that some time ago it used to be like "sdb2- (81G)" or alike |
| SlavekB | In list from blkid sdb2 has the name? |
| echotrap | I appear to have been wrong about the naming. /dev/sdb2 shows as ntfs and has only a uuid apparently |
| echotrap | other partitions however show their name, :: /dev/sdb1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="4BF5-6DB1" TYPE="vfat" :: for example |
| echotrap | not shure if this is actually worth looking into all to deeply as it is a simple convienience issue for me. I am currently sifting through some HDDs deciding what might still be relevant on them and what not and in this way have to have two to three HDD's (all with multiple partitions) mounted during theoperation of search, sift and destroy/relocate. |
| echotrap | That is if the issue is not persistent on newer versions/systems... |
| echotrap | hmpf, need to go, thanks lot for the replies though SlavekB. |
| echotrap | *lifts hat and vanishes for a few hours |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1166 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1166 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Have Kmail selectively cache IMAP folders and emails |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1167 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1167 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KPDF browser plugin |
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| secret | hello every body |
| secret | i installed trinity-desktop |
| secret | i cant find NetworkManager in my panel |
| secret | can everyone help me |
| secret | ? |
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| MutantTurkey | morning |
| MutantTurkey | secret: |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | just got in |
| MutantTurkey | secret: have you launched Network Manager's applet? (nm-applet) |
| MutantTurkey | also network manager has a bug where it isn't compliant with the freedesktop standard and won't display an icon properly outside of gnome and unity. |
| MutantTurkey | there might be a small box instead which looks sorta funky |
| secret | i have to run nm-applet & |
| secret | because after nm-applet command , my terminal window is busy |
| secret | what is your opinion for run nm-applet for ever and running back after reload computer |
| secret | ? |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know what you mean |
| MutantTurkey | can you rephrase that question |
| MutantTurkey | you run nm-applet - the terminal is busy, but nothing appears... |
| MutantTurkey | and there is no little box that shows up |
| MutantTurkey | or anytihng at all in your system tray...? |
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| MutantTurkey | sorry disconnected |
| MutantTurkey | basically it's hanging up |
| secret | ok |
| MutantTurkey | so you'll want to launch it from the mini-cli instead of a terminal |
| MutantTurkey | when you close a terminnal, all programs close that it's opened. |
| MutantTurkey | so |
| MutantTurkey | press Alt-F2 |
| MutantTurkey | and then type in nm-applet |
| secret | no i want this appear when computer was turning on |
| MutantTurkey | oh! |
| MutantTurkey | ok :-)) |
| MutantTurkey | some miscomunnincation |
| secret | :D |
| secret | my bad english |
| secret | :)) |
| MutantTurkey | you'll need to add nm-applet to your AutoStart directory |
| secret | yes |
| MutantTurkey | which is located in .trinity/Autostart |
| secret | exactly |
| MutantTurkey | so you'll want to link /usr/bin/nm-applet to there |
| MutantTurkey | ln -s /usr/bin/nm-applet ~/.trinity/Autostart/nm-applet |
| MutantTurkey | secret: try it out and then come back and tell me if it works ok? |
| MutantTurkey | another satisfied customer... NEXT! |
| secret | thanks |
| secret | i want restart my computer |
| secret | and i will be back |
| secret | thank you |
| secret | :) |
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| Z_God | MutantTurkey: you can dettach a process from a terminal as well |
| Z_God | ctrl+z and then type bg |
| MutantTurkey | no no no |
| MutantTurkey | it will still die |
| MutantTurkey | won't it? |
| MutantTurkey | when bash dies it sends the hangup singal to other proces |
| MutantTurkey | yeah i'm correct. |
| Z_God | no |
| Z_God | it won't die |
| Z_God | I don't know what you're doing, but I often use this to close my terminals |
| MutantTurkey | are you using bash? |
| MutantTurkey | are you using konsole? |
| Z_God | yes |
| Z_God | yes |
| MutantTurkey | wat. |
| MutantTurkey | run konsole; nm-applet; ctrl-z; bg; quit; nm applet closes |
| MutantTurkey | always consistent |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know what you're doing ;p |
| Z_God | maybe nm-applet does something else |
| Z_God | but normal programs do not close then |
| Z_God | I just tried what you wrote |
| Z_God | and nm-applet is still there |
| Z_God | the attaching normally has to do with stdin, stdout and stderr btw |
| Z_God | you can also run a program like this: "program < /dev/null > /dev/null 2> /dev/null" |
| Z_God | then it won't have any stream attached to the terminal and will not depend on it at all |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | I always thought bash closed all child process's when it closed |
| Z_God | I've never heard of that |
| Z_God | running a program with & should also work btw |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | thats what I typically do |
| Z_God | but then the output is still sent to the terminal |
| MutantTurkey | not if you bg it though |
| Z_God | it does here |
| Z_God | but bg and & is the same |
| Z_God | basically |
| Space_Man | ctrl c vs ctrl z, one kills the process and the other doesn't |
| Space_Man | or have I misunderstood it? |
| MutantTurkey | control Z stops the process |
| MutantTurkey | it will continue with no problem |
| MutantTurkey | but it is stopped |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: C kills, Z stops |
| MutantTurkey | you can restart processes easily |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1132 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1132 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdebase FTBFS without HAL |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 977 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=977 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Avoiding potential menu clutter and conflicts with KDE3 and KDE4 |
| Space_Man | how do you fix "Could not start kdeinit, check your installation."? |
| Space_Man | running ubuntu maverick, just upgraded from 3.5.12 to 3.5.13 |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: Is written something useful in .xsession-errors? |
| Space_Man | hi SlavekB, I managed to get past the kdeinit window and launch a trinity desktop |
| Space_Man | I removed your repo lines from the sources and renamed .kde3 and .trinity |
| Space_Man | after a slow update and upgrade the desktop appeared |
| Space_Man | will the old errors be in .xsession-errors ? |
| Space_Man | or is recreated after each login? |
| SlavekB | No, .xsession-errors will be cleaned every time you log on. |
| Space_Man | that's a pity |
| SlavekB | Otherwise, the risk that it could grow over all bounds. |
| Space_Man | it could cycle them .xsession-errors1, .xsession-errors2, .xsession-errors3 etc |
| Space_Man | and then delete after #10 |
| Space_Man | even then it would 10 times the disk space |
| MutantTurkey | what's up all |
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| MutantTurkey | I symlinked my xsession to /dev/null lol |
| MutantTurkey | after I realized mine was something like 4Gb! |
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| Z_God | MutantTurkey: maybe it says something about the quality of the software you're running ;P |
| MutantTurkey | or that just all information gets printed there. |
| MutantTurkey | many programs print just regular information |
| Z_God | that is a bug then |
| MutantTurkey | but somehow on ubuntu it outputs all information to there |
| MutantTurkey | no it is not. |
| MutantTurkey | it is ubuntu's bug |
| Z_God | still a bug ;) |
| MutantTurkey | a lot of software prints terminal output... |
| MutantTurkey | right but not one I care about :p |
| Z_God | but only errors should end up there I think |
| Z_God | solving the issues behind such messages generated by trinity apps would be a good goal for a future version |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | i agree |
| MutantTurkey | mostly it was my broswer |
| MutantTurkey | because I have it output debugging information to my terminal (i wrote the browser, i use it for web dev) |
| MutantTurkey | but when launched from the runner it outputs to the .xseesion |
| Z_God | ah I see |
| Z_God | bbl |
| MutantTurkey | cya! |
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| Z_God | MutantTurkey: I don't know if you think this would be interesting as well, but I was thinking about creating a Trinity page on G+ and Facebook ahead of the next release |
| MutantTurkey | I would maintain it |
| Z_God | sounds good :) |
| MutantTurkey | Tim has previously mentioned his distaste for those sort of things |
| MutantTurkey | as well as Darrell and David |
| MutantTurkey | they are of an older generation |
| Z_God | hmm |
| Z_God | I created a group on vkontakte |
| Z_God | there aren't many people in it, but the people there seem to appreciate it |
| Z_God | you know why don't they like this? |
| Z_God | it doesn't really have to be anything official, but more as an alternative to the current groups that are already there for the other DEs |
| MutantTurkey | they don't like it i dunno |
| MutantTurkey | they have avoided any sort of integration tools to the web |
| MutantTurkey | they think it's dumb |
| MutantTurkey | whateva |
| MutantTurkey | because kde4 is all webigrated |
| Z_God | yes, I agree with that |
| Z_God | I don't really need that either |
| MutantTurkey | sigh |
| MutantTurkey | I would not mind a single applet to use but nothing requireed |
| Z_God | but just having a user group seems ok |
| Z_God | sure, but I suppose Tim would accept any applet that could be useful for someone |
| Z_God | I understand that he won't spend much time otherwise on it |
| MutantTurkey | yeah a user group is a good idea |
| MutantTurkey | also |
| MutantTurkey | we need a wikipedia page |
| MutantTurkey | I think it is high time |
| MutantTurkey | we are several releases in |
| Z_God | trinity is already on wikipedia |
| MutantTurkey | but tim has also stated he doesnt want someone on the dev team to do it really |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| Z_God | just not with its own page |
| MutantTurkey | a real page |
| Z_God | yes, he's right |
| Z_God | better let someone do it who is not already associated with the project |
| Z_God | to be honest, I'm not totally sure what Tim is working on now either |
| Z_God | I saw this big bounty announcement, I was a bit surprised, because it seems to be written with a certain potential user already in mind |
| MutantTurkey | yes except there has been no-body yet. |
| MutantTurkey | that is probably what he was working on |
| Z_God | exactly |
| MutantTurkey | but also remember, tim has a full time job and regular life duties. |
| MutantTurkey | only one man can do so much!~ |
| Z_God | but why create all of that first and then look for a user? |
| MutantTurkey | the user potential is there |
| MutantTurkey | I guess he just wants money for his work? |
| Z_God | it depends, nobody has seen this software |
| MutantTurkey | there are screen shots, documentation to show it off. |
| MutantTurkey | we did raise money for the Qt4 style |
| MutantTurkey | but the bounty is so much higher |
| Z_God | yes and also this expiration |
| Z_God | what does he do with all that code if the bounty isn't met by then? |
| MutantTurkey | I do not know I do not know. |
| Z_God | the video is impressive really |
| Z_God | I've ran LDAP myself at my previous job |
| Z_God | not that easy to set it all up properly |
| MutantTurkey | that is why it is worth the money for large companies to have tihs |
| Z_God | yes, I see the potential |
| Z_God | I guess he must already be in talks with someone |
| Z_God | or presenting it as a bounty on the Trinity side is his way of marketing it... but that doesn't really seem like the best way to do it |
| Z_God | site* |
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| Z_God | but also regarding R14, I don't know what is going on exactly, I had several new bugs with the newer nightlies, but I'm not sure yet whether they are caused by an inconsistent ABI or new issues |
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| MutantTurkey | I don't know |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I dunno |
| MutantTurkey | Z_God: i haven't used R14 |
| MutantTurkey | I use SRU |
| MutantTurkey | because it's really stable |
| Z_God | R14 is not really unstable |
| Z_God | but there are multiple small things that broke |
| Z_God | SRU is what used to be called 3.5.13.1? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | it is actuall called that |
| MutantTurkey | I just call it sru for short |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | I haven't seen it for precise |
| Z_God | otherwise I would've tried it |
| SlavekB | Z_God: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?field.series_filter=precise&start=0&batch=150 |
| Z_God | SlavekB: looking good :) |
| Z_God | I just need a fix for bug 100 then and I could deploy this instead of Lucid ! |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=100 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Keyboard layout switcher does not work |
| Z_God | I haven't seen any other regressions |
| Z_God | SlavekB: I guess the multi-arch issues are also solved in this repository? |
| Z_God | they are not even solved yet in the R14 repos |
| SlavekB | multi-archi issue with libogg? |
| Z_God | yes |
| SlavekB | I'm afraid not. |
| Z_God | hmm |
| SlavekB | It still have to discuss with Tim. |
| Z_God | hope this custom libogg can be removed |
| Z_God | there is another package issue with the r14 repos btw |
| Z_God | with python-sip |
| Z_God | bug 1012 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1012 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Packaging] python-sip from the Trinity repository cannot install on Ubuntu Precise due to a broken provides |
| SlavekB | It seems to me that when I build the same source package on my build machine, so it's okay. (libogg) |
| Z_God | but this custom libogg version seems weird |
| Z_God | what are the changes in it? |
| SlavekB | But when build the same source on Trinity build-farm, so there are multi-arch problem. |
| Z_God | it's about this Multi-Arch: same |
| Z_God | is that in the debian/control file? |
| SlavekB | Custom libogg is here for libogg-dev-la. |
| Z_God | it seems that the packaging scripts of trinity's libogg are outdated |
| Z_God | and is that still needed? |
| Z_God | ah yeah it was even only needed for building |
| Z_God | not for running |
| Z_God | if I remember it correctly |
| SlavekB | Some other packages have this as build-dep. |
| Z_God | could you try compiling them with the regular libogg? |
| Z_God | if that works now, the easy fix would be to get rid of the custom libogg |
| SlavekB | Sorry, I have to go. |
| MutantTurkey | yawn |
| Z_God | alright, have a good eve! |
| SlavekB | Thanks, bye. |
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| rakkie | hi everybody! |
| rakkie | may i can ask a question?^^ |
| rakkie | i installed trinity on ubuntu 11.10, but usb-storages and cdroms wont automount... is it possible to get automount in trinity 3.5.13? |
| Z_God | rakkie: I do not this that automounting is related to your DE |
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| Z_God | think* |
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| inkjetunito | o/ |
| Z_God | MutantTurkey: hey, I created a Trinity page on G+ now & invited you as a maintainer |
| inkjetunito | is trinity going to maintain qt3? |
| Z_God | inkjetunito: qt3 is already being maintained as part of the trinity project |
| inkjetunito | Z_God, i see, so trinity will stay qt3-based? |
| SlavekB | I looked at the Trinity page on Wikipedia - there are actually no real page - there is only a redirect to KDE3 page. |
| Z_God | inkjetunito: other toolkits will be used as they come along, but there is no major rewrite going to take place |
| Z_God | SlavekB: yes indeed, but that page has a Trinity section I think? |
| inkjetunito | Z_God, ok. thanks for the information. also: good work :) |
| Z_God | inkjetunito: I'm not doing much, but no problem ;) |
| SlavekB | Yes it has. But for people seeking information about Trinity is KDE3 page unnecessarily confusing. |
| SlavekB | I think it would be better to have a real page that KDE3 only referenced in the text. |
| Z_God | yep, but we can only wait and hope someone independant will change it |
| inkjetunito | admittedly this old laptop i set up as an emergency computer runs the last kde3 release atm... anyway, the fact that it's the "fastest" computer in the house now makes me appreciate this project |
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| Z_God | otherwise it may seem as plugging by the project itself |
| Z_God | inkjetunito: really? what are the specs? |
| Z_God | if trinity will be a really big success, I'm sure someone will reflect this on wikipedia :) |
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| Z_God | SlavekB: were you still able to look at this libogg issue? |
| Z_God | I don't know if it is difficult for you to try to recompile its reverse dependencies with ubuntu's standard libogg? |
| inkjetunito | Z_God, well, of course it's slower than the newer ones when it comes to number crunching, but boot time and responsivity is first class :p 1,3 GHz Pentium M, 512 MB RAM. the other computers are a macbook and an atom netbook both from year 2009 |
| inkjetunito | *are first class |
| Z_God | inkjetunito: those specs are not too bad :) |
| SlavekB | Z_God: Yes. I plan to incorporate several patches to v3.5.13-sru, and then I want to see more detail on libogg. |
| Z_God | I see sru all the time now |
| Z_God | is that a new name? |
| Z_God | for 3.5.13.1 |
| Z_God | I do not really care much but then I know it's the same thing or smth else :) |
| SlavekB | "sru" is common name for "stable-updates" branch v3.5.13. |
| Z_God | so there will not be releases, just updates as thing come along? |
| SlavekB | 3.5.13.1 will be first "finished" update release. |
| Z_God | ok |
| Z_God | so when will it be released? |
| inkjetunito | Z_God, haha. i should install gnu/linux or freebsd with trinity on the macbook. that would be something snappy :) |
| Z_God | inkjetunito: that's what I would do I guess ;) |
| SlavekB | At present I hope to release 3.5.13.1 in late August. |
| Z_God | ok :) |
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| SlavekB | inkjetunito: I have one machine with a Pentium III / 550 MHz, and Trinity on it works nicely :) |
| inkjetunito | SlavekB, that's a real oldtimer already :o i still need to look whether i want to do several builds of trinity on my "beast" or not. no doubt it would run perfectly, but building it is still a challenge |
| SlavekB | I understand - build the Trinity on a slow machine I really not want :) |
| inkjetunito | what the heck. i still have some vacation left. i'll roll initial pkgsrc packages for trinity :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1168 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1168 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, python-tqt FTBFS |
| inkjetunito | i have to take the previous back |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1169 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1169 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, koffice FTBFS with libwpd >= 0.9 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1170 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1170 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kima FTBFS without HAL |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1171 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1171 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, k9copy FTBFS without HAL |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1074 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1074 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Switch application language does not work at all |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 836 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=836 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: verb-query-dlg.png in de version of kvoctrain's handbook is broken |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 839 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=839 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Some graphic files in python-tqt and tqscintilla are broken |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 835 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=835 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: optionsdialog_main_window_2.png in nl version of kfilereplace's handbook is broken |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1099 from CONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1099 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, App renaming issue 3.5.13 -> R14 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com marked bug 1107 as a duplicate of bug 803. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1107 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, KBugBuster default server wrong |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=803 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdesdk: Update kbugbuster to function with Trinity bugzilla |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1172 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1172 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] KMail does not automatically expire mails from folders |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 801 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=801 normal, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, Icons in kate toolbar are not ordered |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1034 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1034 trivial, P5, ---, mutantturkey, NEEDINFO, Standard Python filter in KWrite is corrupt. |
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| rzs19 | http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1173 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1173 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Ktorrent doesn't recognize magnet links |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1087 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1087 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Odd KMail messages in xsession log |
| tbottu | 10julius@zgod.cjb.net changed the Status on bug 1039 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1039 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, [REGRESSION] alt+f2, does not allow executing scripts from ~/bin anymore |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1013 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1013 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Kandy (from kdepim) has no icon in application menu |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 982 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=982 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KMahjongg could not locate the file tqlayout |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 586 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=586 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, 3.5.13 regression: kio-locate-trinity doesn't show any results in Konqueror |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 586 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=586 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, 3.5.13 regression: kio-locate-trinity doesn't show any results in Konqueror |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1174 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1174 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Changing theme moves panel |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1175 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1175 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, xpdf is not updated with security patches or latest sources |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1176 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1176 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdegraphics does not build against a preinstalled xpdf |
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| hans | Hi, anyone know if it's wise to keep KDE4 installed when trying trinity? |
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| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | fuck |
| MutantTurkey | damnit |
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| Z_God | MutantTurkey: what's the matter? |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1175 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1175 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, xpdf is not updated with security patches or latest sources |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1177 filed by yehjj@pchome.com.tw. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1177 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmix crash when quit in Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1176 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1176 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Build issue: tdegraphics does not build against a preinstalled xpdf |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1178 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1178 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KHelpCenter Application Manuals Missing 3.5.13-sru |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1177 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1177 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, kmix crash when quit in Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1133 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1133 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Missing LDFLAGS in autotools causing several FTBFS on Mageia 2 |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1143 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1143 enhancement, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kuickshow documentation is built even when kuickshow is not built |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1155 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1155 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kpicosim FTBFS: not a string literal error |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1158 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1158 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kstreamripper HTML documentation in wrong folder |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1013 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1013 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kandy (from kdepim) has no icon in application menu |
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| tbottu | 10yehjj@pchome.com.tw changed the Status on bug 1177 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1177 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kmix crash when quit in Fedora 16 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 586 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=586 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, 3.5.13 regression: kio-locate-trinity doesn't show any results in Konqueror |
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| tkdchen | hi, do u encounter a problem when open Python source file in kate, it prompts the hightlight file cannot be parsed |
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| Z_God | tkdchen: no, it works fine here |
| Z_God | as far as I know |
| tkdchen | Z_God: kate for kde4 is also installed in my computer. do they have conflict? I'm not sure. and could u please send me your copy to me? |
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| Z_God | tkdchen: which packages are you using? |
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| tkdchen | trinity-kate-3.5.13-26.fc16.opt.x86_64 |
| tkdchen | Z_God: trinity-kate-3.5.13-26.fc16.opt.x86_64 |
| tkdchen | Z_God: i have to go to bed, too tired today. thx for ur help. could u pls send to qcxhome@gmail.com, thx!!! |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1179 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1179 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Obsolete link in Kmail OpenPGP passphrase dialog |
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| samelian | hello MutantTurkey |
| samelian | I found the patch for integrate glib mainloop into qt3 |
| samelian | http://web.archive.org/web/20070524141039/http://www.scheinwelt.at/~norbertf/common_main_loop/ |
| MutantTurkey | hello! |
| MutantTurkey | wow cool |
| samelian | right now my entire kde3 is working on top of qt3 which uses glib mainloop |
| samelian | without any issue |
| MutantTurkey | very cool |
| MutantTurkey | with the advantage? |
| samelian | I can use glib signals/slots directly |
| samelian | now I have kde3 polkit agent |
| samelian | i think that we embed gtk widgets into kde3 apps, directly |
| MutantTurkey | did you tell Tim about that? |
| samelian | nope, i'm not so sure that he will want to link tqt to glib |
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| MutantTurkey | well you should mention it. |
| MutantTurkey | I think he may consider it |
| MutantTurkey | at least. |
| MutantTurkey | glib slots are a good advantage. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1180 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1180 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tsak dialog boxes are displayed even if tsak is not built |
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| Borg^Queen | hello hello |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1148 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1148 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: pykdeextensions 3.5.13 FTBFS on Mandriva 2011 x86_64 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1181 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1181 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdebase FTBFS with BUILD_TSAK=on on RHEL6 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 843 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=843 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Tools provided by Qt3 conflict with ones from Qt4 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 843 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=843 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Tools provided by Qt3 conflict with ones from Qt4 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1072 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1072 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KOffice localization missing |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1181 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1181 major, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdebase FTBFS with BUILD_TSAK=on on RHEL6 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 632 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=632 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Keramik window decoration does not work |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1123 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1123 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Please add KOrganizer holiday region for Slovakia |
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| SlavekB | drankin: Please commit 7aaf58e2 is from you? |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 632 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=632 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Keramik window decoration does not work |
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| schreiberstein | hi there! |
| SlavekB | schreiberstein: hi |
| schreiberstein | what's up? |
| SlavekB | I'm waiting for the review of several patches... |
| SlavekB | And also on the opinions of others regarding the move documentation to the folder 'tde' for v3.5.13-sru. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1175 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1175 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, xpdf is not updated with latest sources |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1180 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1180 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tsak dialog boxes are displayed even if tsak is not built |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1181 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1181 major, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdebase FTBFS with BUILD_TSAK=on on RHEL6 |
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| beartham | Hi --- I need in uninstall KDE4 from a Centos 6.2 (RHEL 6.2) VPS and install TPE. Any advice would be appreciated. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1182 filed by mdemolins@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1182 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Title bar wheel event doesn't match the selected option |
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| DexterF | hi |
| MutantTurkey | hey dex |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | forgot why I came here. |
| DexterF | oh, ah, yes: added slavek's repos to deb/wheezy, update gets me: |
| DexterF | W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 099723A280479E11 |
| DexterF | now what? |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm No idea |
| MutantTurkey | i'd ask slavek personally |
| MutantTurkey | DexterF: looks like tim responded to your emailed. |
| DexterF | yay |
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| DexterF | nah, way too man broken dependencies. that machine is too much of a moving target already. |
| DexterF | what is the most reliable dist for trinity atm? |
| MutantTurkey | personally I use debian |
| MutantTurkey | works very well |
| MutantTurkey | wha twere you using? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1183 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1183 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KGPG not recognizing gpg-agent process |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1184 filed by hans.van.buitenen@xs4all.nl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1184 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Running Trinity Concurrently with KDE 4 (or 3.5) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1185 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1185 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KOffice incorrectly formatting ODF documents from LibreOffice |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1186 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1186 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kpowersave(-nohal) FTBFS without HAL |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1187 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1187 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KSpread doesn't recognize $ sign or equations entered from another program |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1188 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1188 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tde-guidance can not work |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1189 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1189 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kstreamripper package is empty |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1190 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1190 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ALSA9: Capture mixer's knob wrong |
| tbottu | 10rom_as@oscada.org changed the Status on bug 1190 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1191 filed by gomadtroll@gci.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1191 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, K3B fails to install, depends issue, libmusicbrainz4c2a |
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| tbottu | 10office@klepp.biz changed the Status on bug 594 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=594 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, konqueror does not save site certificates |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 338 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=338 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, missing translations for some applications |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1192 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1192 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KOffice Default Toolbar Layout Suggestion |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1188 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1188 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tde-guidance can not work |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 946 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=946 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kstreamripper FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1189 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1189 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kstreamripper package is empty |
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| okcx_ | Does Trinity work on Debian Wheezy? |
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| SlavekB | okcx_: You can either use the nightly-builds (development branch - not recommended for normal use), or packages for Squeeze. |
| okcx_ | The packages for Squeeze didn't work :/ |
| SlavekB | Original 3.5.13 or with (upcoming) updates? |
| okcx_ | the original one from the repos |
| SlavekB | You can add ppa with upcoming updates: |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main |
| okcx_ | I'll try that, thanks |
| SlavekB | Attention, downloading is slow - is from primary server. |
| okcx_ | Well, I'm still not sure which Desktop Environment I should use anyway, either Trinity or XFCE |
| SlavekB | I prefer Trinity - it seems to me more comprehensive. |
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| okcx_ | I'm having issues installing trinity on Debian wheezy, used the nightly builds |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1193 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1193 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMail/Kontact multiple GPG passphrase boxes |
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| Jota | Hi there! |
| Space_Man | hello Jota |
| Jota | anyone knows why 3.5.13.1 is taking so long to be released?? |
| Space_Man | there was a rumour that 3.5.13.1 would be released at the end of August |
| * Space_Man is the UK and there is less than 4 hours to go before September starts | |
| Jota | haha |
| Jota | ok lets wait... |
| Space_Man | on the mailing list there was a proposal to rename 3.5.13.1 as 3.5.14 |
| Space_Man | and call it a major release |
| Space_Man | but that proposal was rejected |
| Jota | meantime, I hava a problem with k3b not recording CD Audio from flac... |
| Jota | anyone had the same problem?? |
| Space_Man | I've never had that problem |
| Jota | if I were in charge, I will name it 3.5.14... is has more appeal... and helps forget about 3.5.13, that was full of bugs |
| Jota | and 3,5,14 will be easier for the upgrades... |
| Jota | but have you tried burning flacs tracks?? |
| Space_Man | no, I haven's used a CD for 2 or 3 years |
| Jota | ah, ok |
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| Jota | Hi Slavek ! |
| Jota | are you there? |
| SlavekB | Jota: hi |
| Jota | In my TDE 3.5.13.1 on squeeze, k3b is not working when I try to burn and Audio CD from Flac tracks... |
| Jota | it just crashes, but no error message, no log, nothing! |
| Jota | Do you know if others get this problem? |
| SlavekB | No, I do not know about this problem. |
| Jota | well, just to be sure, I will install k3b on another squeeze install, to see if it repeats... |
| Jota | everything else works ok on k3b, just the burning of Flac tracks that gives the problem... |
| SlavekB | Please, if you repeat crash on another machine, fill up the bug ticket on Trinity Bugzilla. |
| SlavekB | I not have here any flac file, so I can not try it now. And I should go to bed ;) |
| Jota | ok! thank you! good night |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1194 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1194 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kftpgrabber packaging request |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1195 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1195 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Desktop icon 'My computer' |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1109 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1109 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Cannot choose QtCurve style |
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| slm | hello |
| Space_Man | Hi Slm |
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| slm | is it possible to upgrade from 3.5.12 to 3.5.13sru? |
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| Space_Man | yes |
| Space_Man | maybe yes |
| Space_Man | but slm has gone |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1196 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1196 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KBookReader cannot recognize ePub |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1195 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1195 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Desktop icon 'My computer' |
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| smaragd98 | Hello. Is there a way to install Trinity on a Debian Testing system? |
| smaragd98 | hello? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1197 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1197 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdeeject improvements |
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| smaragd98 | hello? |
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| Shdwdrgn | has anybody else noticed that the recent versions of firefox pretty much don't work? I have not been able to use any version since 13 because it completely locks when it starts. If a create a new profile, the program seems to lock up every few seconds for up to a minute at a time |
| Shdwdrgn | 'top' says firefox is using < 1% cpu, even when it's hung |
| Shdwdrgn | I can somewhat use FF12, but it also exhibits these locks, but only very infrequently. |
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| Z_God | Shdwdrgn: yes |
| Z_God | you should remove the kgtk-qt3-trinity package |
| Z_God | and edit the startkde or starttde script in /opt/trinity/bin and put a # in front of the line that starts with export LD_PRELOAD |
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| Shdwdrgn | Z_God, thanks for the info... will try that in a minute. |
| Shdwdrgn | well that's no good |
| Shdwdrgn | removing kgtk-qt3-trinity requires removal of kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1198 filed by nils-henkel@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1198 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmymoney crashes on start |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz marked bug 1198 as a duplicate of bug 672. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=672 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kmymoney crashes on startup |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1195 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1195 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Desktop icon 'My computer' |
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| Z_God | Shdwdrgn: yes that is np |
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| Borg^Queen | hello hello |
| Borg^Queen | Can anyone tell me how to add subdirectories to k service menus? Or tell me where the stock ark servicmenu is located? |
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| Borg^Queen | anyone home? |
| MutantTurkey | I am! |
| MutantTurkey | sorry |
| MutantTurkey | just got home ;) |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| MutantTurkey | question? |
| Borg^Queen | hi MutantTurkey |
| Borg^Queen | can you tell me how to add subdirectories to k service menus? Or tell me where the stock ark servicmenu is located? |
| MutantTurkey | what is a k service menu? like the start menu? just making sure we are referring to the same thing |
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| Borg^Queen | in konqueror |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| Borg^Queen | you right click etc |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | rigtht-click -> compress etc |
| Borg^Queen | yes |
| Borg^Queen | in compress there are additional submenus |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | looking around |
| Borg^Queen | been doing that for 3 days |
| MutantTurkey | it's the ark plugin i think |
| Borg^Queen | ahhhh ok |
| Borg^Queen | don't know how to write that |
| MutantTurkey | how to write what? |
| MutantTurkey | maybe in kdeaddons |
| Borg^Queen | hmm |
| MutantTurkey | I think its in there. |
| Borg^Queen | what is |
| MutantTurkey | the pliugin |
| MutantTurkey | in kdeaddons/konq-plugins |
| Borg^Queen | I know where that is located |
| MutantTurkey | that's where it is. |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | how to add. |
| Borg^Queen | ark_part.desktop |
| MutantTurkey | no |
| Borg^Queen | how to add it? |
| MutantTurkey | arkplugin.cpp is probably what you'll need to edit |
| MutantTurkey | what do you want to do? |
| Borg^Queen | create submenus within menus for a kservicmenu related to ISO/Img management |
| MutantTurkey | I see |
| MutantTurkey | sorry can you be _more_ specific? I'm kind of being slow |
| MutantTurkey | you want to create a submenu for a kservicemenu(those right click things in konq) for an existing ISO managment menu? |
| Borg^Queen | yes, |
| MutantTurkey | ok :) |
| Borg^Queen | for example Menu/men |
| MutantTurkey | lets stick with the compress example. |
| Borg^Queen | ok |
| MutantTurkey | you are currently ok with C++ and such? |
| Borg^Queen | Nope, but I will try anyway. I can learn under fire |
| Borg^Queen | shall I open KATE? |
| MutantTurkey | subMenu= new KActionMenu( i18n( "My SubMenu" ), actionCollection(), "submenu" ); |
| MutantTurkey | Menu->insert(subMenu); |
| MutantTurkey | just look at those two lines |
| MutantTurkey | once a menu is created called subMenu, the only thing you need to do is add it to an existing menu |
| MutantTurkey | just create a menu and insert it into another menu, and it automatically becomes a submenu |
| Borg^Queen | ok hitting a language barrier. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| Borg^Queen | Give me a second to understand what you have written |
| Borg^Queen | how is this file saved? |
| Borg^Queen | and to where? |
| MutantTurkey | this isn't a file, it's just a piece of code |
| MutantTurkey | I don't know if we are trying to do the same thing... |
| Borg^Queen | I'll do what you say, and see where it goes. |
| MutantTurkey | what file are you looking it? |
| MutantTurkey | or what kservice menu? |
| Borg^Queen | so my submenu is repaced with what I want right |
| Borg^Queen | ok I have 24 iso/img items in one kservicemenu |
| Borg^Queen | I would like to place them in relative submenus within the primary menu |
| MutantTurkey | did you write that service menu? |
| Borg^Queen | No lol I assimlated them |
| MutantTurkey | how are you editing them right now? |
| MutantTurkey | can you paste that file? |
| Borg^Queen | I'll paste in pastebin, there are 5 servicemenus listed under the same menu |
| MutantTurkey | in a pastebin http://paste.kde.org |
| Borg^Queen | I'll start with the first one |
| Borg^Queen | http://paste.kde.org/544184/ |
| Borg^Queen | brb going for water |
| Borg^Queen | back |
| Borg^Queen | hey still alive? |
| MutantTurkey | I am |
| MutantTurkey | sorr |
| Borg^Queen | lol |
| MutantTurkey | had to pick up pizza :-) |
| Borg^Queen | OOOOOHH GIMMIE! |
| Borg^Queen | bloody hell now I want pizza |
| Borg^Queen | I'll make some for dinner, not to worry |
| MutantTurkey | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus |
| Borg^Queen | read it, doesn't seem to have the answer |
| Borg^Queen | Am I missing it? |
| Borg^Queen | I want something like X-KDE-Submenu=Use As Wallpaper, then a submenu under that like "More Options" |
| Shdwdrgn | Z_God, just saw your message... how is removing kubuntu-desktop-trinity and all its associated packages an 'ok' solution? |
| Z_God | Shdwdrgn: you shouldn't remove its associated packages |
| Shdwdrgn | there are 135 packages that get removed if I allow it to uninstall kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| Borg^Queen | ouch |
| Z_God | weird |
| Z_God | what distro is that |
| Z_God | ? |
| Shdwdrgn | natty |
| Z_God | seems a bug |
| Shdwdrgn | I installed trinity maverick, then upgraded from there |
| Z_God | kubuntu-desktop-trinity should be a metapackage |
| Z_God | you can also only edit the script |
| Z_God | it should work as well |
| Shdwdrgn | if you can point me at the script you're referring to, I can certainly give it a shot |
| Z_God | [07:40:00] <Z_God> and edit the startkde or starttde script in /opt/trinity/bin and put a # in front of the line that starts with export LD_PRELOAD |
| Shdwdrgn | FYI... kubuntu-desktop-trinity ver 1:78, kgtk-qt3-trinity is listed in the depends |
| Z_God | yes, that is normal |
| Shdwdrgn | oh I thought you meant a script to uninstall kgtk-qt3-trinity without unloading the whole desktop |
| Z_God | but removing kubuntu-desktop-trinity should be np normally |
| Z_God | you can also try it by running this in a konsole |
| Shdwdrgn | if that's normal, then I'm confused... if kgtk-qt3-trinity is listed as a depends, why wouldn't apt insist on uninstalling kubuntu-desktop-trinity and all the packages associated with it? |
| Z_God | LD_PRELOAD= firefox |
| Shdwdrgn | try that before starting up firefox, I assume? |
| Z_God | it will start firefox |
| Z_God | and it won't hang then |
| Z_God | it is normal to remove kubuntu-desktop-trinity, but it shouldn't remove its associated packages |
| Shdwdrgn | ok let me get the newer FF installed, and see what happens |
| Z_God | the hangs are caused by the preloaded kgtk library |
| Z_God | and some other lib that's part of it |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: if this is too much we can let it go |
| Shdwdrgn | Z_God, should I enter the ld_preload line as root, or as the user I am running my desktop under? |
| Z_God | as a normal user |
| Shdwdrgn | ok, then just fire up firefox? Or do I need to log out of my desktop and back in for the preload to take affect? |
| Z_God | it will launch firefox without preloading libs |
| Z_God | so it won't hang |
| Z_God | for it to take effect, you have to edit the script as I explained earlier |
| Shdwdrgn | it didn't do anything except go back to the prompt |
| Shdwdrgn | ah |
| Z_God | you missed a space then |
| Z_God | between the = & f |
| Shdwdrgn | ok, editing the script, then entering LD_PRELOAD= firefox |
| Z_God | no |
| Z_God | you don't need to use that anymore once you edited the script |
| Z_God | it was just a temp suggestion to try it |
| Shdwdrgn | sorry, had a phone call... trying LD_PRELOAD= firefox (with the space)... |
| Shdwdrgn | ok that's looking pretty good |
| Shdwdrgn | it actually came up pretty fast |
| Z_God | yep |
| Shdwdrgn | now using that method, what happens when FF bombs out and I have to kill it? Will it automatically restart itself, or do I always have to use LD_PRELOAD= firefox line? |
| Z_God | to make it permanent you need to disable the export in the script |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: sory it's not, mostly i'm just busy |
| Borg^Queen | Ok then let's leave it for another day ok? |
| Shdwdrgn | which would be the better solution... adding firefox to the LD_PRELOAD line in the script, or removing $KGTK_PRELOAD:$KGTK_NSPR_PRELOAD from the line? |
| Borg^Queen | I have a temp solution that might help. I'm adding separators |
| Z_God | just put a # in front of the export LD_PRELOAD line |
| Z_God | it is enough |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: I got it |
| MutantTurkey | it's on that page |
| Shdwdrgn | that works |
| MutantTurkey | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus |
| MutantTurkey | search for sub menu, he discusses how |
| Borg^Queen | I have that one. |
| Borg^Queen | ah ok |
| Shdwdrgn | then I can jus tstart up FF like normal after I've restarted my desktop? |
| Borg^Queen | yes but doesn't say how to add a submenu |
| Z_God | need to type with one hand due to my wrists :S |
| Z_God | yep |
| MutantTurkey | Borg^Queen: it does |
| Borg^Queen | really o |
| Borg^Queen | ok |
| MutantTurkey | no? |
| Borg^Queen | No, that not I was able to see. Just adding the main menu |
| Shdwdrgn | I'll have to give this a shot later tonight, need to get dinner started... but thanks for the info!!! |
| Z_God | no problem! |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: don't worry about it now. Go eat and do your project. |
| Z_God | good luck, I'm off to bed |
| MutantTurkey | Did you figure it out? |
| Z_God | good night all |
| Borg^Queen | No, but trying another approach |
| Borg^Queen | Z_God: gn |
| MutantTurkey | http://lindesk.com/2008/10/action-context-custom-service-menus-konqueror/ |
| MutantTurkey | I just googled servicemenu kde3 submenu |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| Z_God | Borg^Queen: and good luck too, will be good to see this in trinity! |
| Borg^Queen | thank you, been very busy and a wee bit under the weather. |
| Borg^Queen | Things are looking up. Thank you again. |
| Borg^Queen | MutantTurkey: my idea works, I've added a separator ,which will help to define the menu for easier use. thank you again. It will do for now until the day we or I can figure it out. |
| MutantTurkey | sorry I couldn't been of any help |
| Borg^Queen | You were. You gave me the idea |
| Borg^Queen | :D Silly human |
| Borg^Queen | or turkey rather |
| Borg^Queen | ok time for sleep. |
| Borg^Queen | GN to all, may all your codes compile! |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1195 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1195 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Desktop icon 'My computer' |
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| Shdwdrgn | just an update on my firefox issue... not only has the new version been working reliably with the changes I made, but cpu usage is down *drastically*. FF used to sit at 20-50% cpu while idle. Now sitting at 3% with all tabs fully loaded. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1199 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1199 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdelibs FTBFS on older distro with Xorg under /usr/X11R6 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1199 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1200 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1200 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdelibs: KDE4 is running |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1201 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1201 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdelibs: xsession output cleanup |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1202 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1202 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdelibs: Reduce xsession log spew |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1202 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1201 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1201 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, tdelibs: xsession output cleanup |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1200 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1200 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, tdelibs: KDE4 is running |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1203 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1203 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdebugdialog incorrectly enables all output |
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| Fresh_me_ | Hello everyone |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1204 filed by freshmeatster@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1204 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Unable to select a play position with a FLAC file |
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| Jota | Hi Slavek, are you there? |
| SlavekB | Jota: Yes, I am. |
| SlavekB | Jota: But I guess I'll go to sleep soon :) |
| Jota | Great! |
| Jota | about your post in the mailinglist "Update KMix global shortcuts", I want to say that I totally agree with you! |
| Jota | it will be good if that shortcuts are the default |
| SlavekB | Also, I thought so. However, I'm waiting for the other reactions. |
| Jota | And one more thing... |
| Jota | libgcc [1:4.4.5-8 -> 1:4.5.2-8ubuntu] libgomp [4.4.5-8 -> 4.5.2-8ubuntu] libstdc++6 [4.4.5-8 -> 4.5.2-8ubuntu] |
| Jota | sorry |
| Jota | I mean |
| Jota | On my debian squeeze the follwing pakages are getting upgraded to Ubuntu version, when I activate the Trinity repos |
| Jota | I thing that should not be?? |
| Jota | The system should remain with the squeeze versions, no? |
| SlavekB | These are the packages that Tim has in trinity-builddeps. |
| Jota | I found out that the system seems a little more stable when using the original packages from Debian |
| Jota | not much of a diference just a little bit more responsive |
| Jota | would not it be better to not use the Ubuntu packages?? |
| Jota | I'm using a old computer for testing, so I can feel some differences... |
| SlavekB | I do not know what the reason was for Tim. |
| Jota | Could you please take a look at it?? |
| Jota | Everything seems to work OK with the Debian versions |
| SlavekB | Ok, I can ask Tim to it. |
| Jota | Ok thank you! |
| Jota | Good night! |
| SlavekB | Thank you :) |
| Jota | I'm the one who has to thank... :-) |
| Jota | for your great effort for a better Trinity! |
| SlavekB | :$ |
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| coreyfro | Just installed nightly on precise...problems with the trinity-dm, but otherwise, it's installed perfectly and I'm back in the wonderful world of KDE 3.5 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1205 filed by nils-henkel@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1205 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [kdesktop] Crash on startup |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 983 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=983 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, PATCHAVAIL, PovRay 3.7 syntax highlighting for kate |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 521 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=521 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Trinity networking breaks with network-manager 0.9 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 549 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=549 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, knetworkmanager needs rewrite for network-manager API 0.9 and higher |
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| newbie999 | Please. tell me, why there is no Trinity for openSUSE ? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1070 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1070 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tdebindings FTBFS with ruby 1.9.3 |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1063 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1063 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: #error "Only <glib.h> can be included directly." |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 597 from CONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=597 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdebindings FTBFS on Ruby 1.9 without patches |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 611 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=611 wishlist, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, [konqueror] xz support in konqueror |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: are you around? need a quick test |
| MutantTurkey | I need to test something with a mimetype |
| MutantTurkey | can someone run this: |
| MutantTurkey | wget http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/6tunnel/download/ -O 6tunnel.tar.xz && mimetype 6tunnel.tar.xz |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: hang on |
| MutantTurkey | thank you :-) |
| samelian | i'm not sure what is mimetype command |
| samelian | file 6tunnel.tar.xz |
| samelian | 6tunnel.tar.xz: XZ compressed data |
| Space_Man | 6tunnel.tar.xz: application/x-xz-compressed-tar |
| Space_Man | http://paste.debian.net/189414/ |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| MutantTurkey | samelian: you do not have mimetype? |
| MutantTurkey | it just outputs the mimetype |
| MutantTurkey | x-xz-compressed-tar |
| samelian | MutantTurkey: my fedora doesn't know what is mimetype :) |
| MutantTurkey | funny |
| MutantTurkey | well Spaceman did the work :-) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 482 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=482 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, openoffice.org-kde-trinity request |
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| MutantTurkey | hey all |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I can't seem to build 3.5.13-sru tdeaddons |
| MutantTurkey | any ideas? |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Hi |
| SlavekB | What distribution? |
| MutantTurkey | Ubuntu Oneiric |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+sourcepub/29287/+listing-archive-extra |
| MutantTurkey | what is this? |
| MutantTurkey | tims stupid cert is broken... |
| SlavekB | Already compiled package :) |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I need the source :p |
| MutantTurkey | trying to patch something :/ |
| SlavekB | below in list |
| MutantTurkey | are those source packages? |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+files/kdeaddons-trinity_3.5.13.orig.tar.bz2 |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+files/kdeaddons-trinity_3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax1~oneiric.debian.tar.bz2 |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+files/kdeaddons-trinity_3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax1~oneiric.dsc |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| SlavekB | you can simple add patch to debian/patches and to list debian/patches/series |
| SlavekB | In fact, this source package is the original 3.5.13 + set of patches. |
| SlavekB | Note: Due to a recent change kde/HTML => tde/HTML you need a current kdelibs-trinity. |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| SlavekB | Does it work? |
| MutantTurkey | haven't tried |
| MutantTurkey | kind of busy at the same time |
| MutantTurkey | how do I do the patching? |
| SlavekB | 1. dpkg-source -x kdeaddons*.dsc |
| SlavekB | 2. copy patch to kdeaddons-trinity-3.5.13/debian/patches |
| SlavekB | 3. add patch name into kdeaddons-trinity-3.5.13/debian/series |
| SlavekB | 4. run dpkg-buildpackage in kdeaddons-trinity-3.5.13 |
| SlavekB | 5. be happy ;) |
| SlavekB | Of course, you can also change the version number in the changelog :) |
| MutantTurkey | ok thank you |
| MutantTurkey | so run dpkg-buildpackage |
| MutantTurkey | and it will make a package that I can install? |
| SlavekB | In the parent folder then you have new deb packages. |
| MutantTurkey | awesome |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| SlavekB | On these, then you use dpkg -i |
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| MutantTurkey | thank you |
| MutantTurkey | still build errors :[ |
| SlavekB | Without this patch is a build possible? |
| MutantTurkey | no it just won't work any fucking way heh |
| MutantTurkey | your source, my git tarball checkout at 3.5.13-SRU |
| MutantTurkey | it just won'tw get close |
| SlavekB | I would have looked on your build-log, but now I'm too busy. |
| SlavekB | ... and I should go to sleep ;) |
| MutantTurkey | good night then |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I posted it |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Thank you, I right now looking at it. |
| SlavekB | It looks very simple. :) |
| MutantTurkey | ok "-) |
| MutantTurkey | not much to see |
| MutantTurkey | just that |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 611 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=611 wishlist, P5, ---, mutantturkey, PATCHAVAIL, [konqueror] xz support in konqueror |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: wget http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/6tunnel/download/ -O 6tunnel.tar.xz && |
| MutantTurkey | use that to get a tar.xz |
| MutantTurkey | to test with konq |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: how long will the build test take? |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I must download the latest packages from the ppa for Oneiric. Then it will go fast. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | I am planning on sleeping in 30-40 minutes |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: ...I'm still waiting to download the build-deps :( |
| MutantTurkey | gah |
| MutantTurkey | it's ok |
| MutantTurkey | his server...so slow |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: should I just go to bed? |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: ...I'm still waiting to download. |
| MutantTurkey | heh |
| MutantTurkey | how much left? |
| SlavekB | Actually I do not know - I do not have indicator of overall progress. :( |
| SlavekB | kdeaddons has a large number of dependencies :( |
| SlavekB | ...and perhaps there is a large amount of useless. |
| SlavekB | grr...still downloading |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | still? |
| SlavekB | crazy package ... still downloading |
| MutantTurkey | sleep time then |
| MutantTurkey | can you email me the results? |
| SlavekB | Yes. |
| SlavekB | I'm sure the download will be complete, as soon as you go to sleep ;) |
| SlavekB | Fetched 70.7 MB in 1h 3min 52s (18.4 kB/s) |
| SlavekB | Done :) |
| SlavekB | real 68m42.547s, |
| SlavekB | user 4m23.380s, |
| SlavekB | sys 0m42.935s |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: around? |
| MutantTurkey | I need some instructios again;) |
| MutantTurkey | to do the whole build process |
| MutantTurkey | I know why the patch didn't work, but I need to personally test it |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I'm at work, so I can only occasionally. |
| MutantTurkey | one question |
| MutantTurkey | I downloaded that, then ran dpkg-buildpackge is this correct? |
| MutantTurkey | after extracting it |
| SlavekB | 1. dpkg-source -x _package_.dsc |
| SlavekB | 2. apt-get build-dep _package_ (to install build dependencies) |
| SlavekB | 3. cd _package_dir_ && dpkg-buildpackage |
| MutantTurkey | thnk you |
| MutantTurkey | awesome |
| MutantTurkey | you rock :) |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: can I edit the source code in that folder and see the changes in my package? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: can I make only konq-plugins package? |
| MutantTurkey | also it worked :) |
| SlavekB | If you make your changes manually in the source tree, it will only be in your binary package. |
| SlavekB | Or you can make your changes as a patch => to debian/patches |
| MutantTurkey | right it will be in my .deb ? |
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| SlavekB | In the binary package will your changes present in both cases. |
| MutantTurkey | thank you |
| SlavekB | To create / maintain custom patches may be handy quilt. |
| SlavekB | Besides, it is also used on already contained patches. |
| MutantTurkey | can you avoid a clean build? like don't have it run clean and configure again? |
| SlavekB | Theoretically - debian/rules is "normal" makefile. |
| MutantTurkey | ah i see |
| MutantTurkey | I used "-nc" which does no clean |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1206 filed by 0ammarsecret0@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1206 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, konqueror crashed while renaming a folder |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1207 filed by nils-henkel@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1207 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gwenview crashes |
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| uberamd | has anyone had success getting the tdesktop kopete to work with google talk? |
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| coreyfro | I am having trouble running eclipse under TDE (works under XFCE) I am getting the error "[kcrash] KCrash: Application Name = gtk-qt-application path = <unknown> pid = 7073". I think I need the wrapper for GTK applications under QT, but I can't figure out where or what it is. Any ideas? |
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| schreiberstein | coreyfro: couldn't you choose a differnt gtk-theme? |
| schreiberstein | using gtk-ctheme |
| schreiberstein | i'm not a dev and this is not a fix.. but this could be a workaround |
| coreyfro | That didn't work but I just did the craziest thing. sudo -u <unpriviliaged username> ./eclipse works |
| coreyfro | I'm running eclipse, through sudo, as myself |
| schreiberstein | ... |
| schreiberstein | that's odd |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1208 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1208 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Bouncing cursor is displayed twice when launching app |
| schreiberstein | i think you need gtk-qt-engine, if it's not already installed |
| schreiberstein | what distro are you using? |
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| coreyfro | I am running ubuntu and I have these packages installed |
| coreyfro | gtk-qt-application is not in the path, and there is no reference to it when I run apt-file |
| coreyfro | ubuntu 12.04 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1209 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1209 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Shutdown won't complete if TDM is/was running |
| schreiberstein | hm.. |
| schreiberstein | apt-cache trinity | grep engine ? |
| schreiberstein | i hope i remember the syntax right |
| schreiberstein | maybe apt-cache search .. don't know.. |
| SlavekB | List of installed packages with engine in name: |
| SlavekB | aptitude search "~iengine" |
| coreyfro | "apt-cache search trinity | grep engine" Yup, all installed |
| schreiberstein | sorry... i don't know a solution either.. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1210 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1210 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDED: TDE Components/Startup Services lists an empty service when knemo is not installed |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1211 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KControl: Some modules modify themselves without user intervention |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 763 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=763 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KControl: Pressing the Apply button always stops the Media Notifier Daemon |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1212 filed by nils-henkel@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1212 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmymoney cannot talk to klauncher |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1212 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1212 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kmymoney cannot talk to klauncher |
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| tbottu | 10nils-henkel@web.de changed the Component on bug 1212 from non-core programs to other (any). |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1212 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, programs cannot talk to klauncher |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1213 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1213 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add missing mimetypes |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 611 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=611 wishlist, P5, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, [konqueror] xz support in konqueror |
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| randomuser456 | morning/afternoon etc is anyone live? |
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| randomuser456 | hi king |
| KingSphinx | ...wow, it's been way too long since I've popped into here |
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| randomuser456 | this is my first visit |
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| randomuser456 | I was trying to see if their is a repo for a distro that uses portage and not a .deb or .rpm system |
| KingSphinx | Last I heard, there was, but I can't remember where it was. |
| randomuser456 | I ask as there is nothing about it on the trinity website |
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| randomuser456 | well nothing I've found that is |
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| SlavekB | randomuser456: I have here marked by the following address: http://wiki.hasnoname.de/tde:trinity-overlay_on_funtoo_gentoo |
| randomuser456 | thank you kB |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1214 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1214 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, names of packages in the Debian repos allude to Ubuntu |
| randomuser456 | hmm given the issues with portage maybe I should learn a bit more about it and help port TDE to it |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately with gentoo / portage I can not help - I am a user of Debian. |
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| randomuser456 | I'm a user not a programmer.... yet so I'm of little use in getting ported over at the moment |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1212 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1212 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, programs cannot talk to klauncher |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: can I use precise with kdeaddons now? |
| SlavekB | Yes, kdeaddons is already included. |
| SlavekB | It remains to integrate your patch for xz support and upload the updated package. |
| MutantTurkey | okay thank you |
| MutantTurkey | well I'm not that worried |
| MutantTurkey | I just need the upgrade |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I'd like to let you know that kpowersave freezes constantly |
| MutantTurkey | and eats 100% cpu |
| MutantTurkey | causing my battery to drain |
| MutantTurkey | is the kpowersave-nohal included in the precise? |
| SlavekB | Strange. I have it on Debian Squeeze, and no problems with it not noticed. |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | this is with a laptop |
| MutantTurkey | it occurs when my screen sleeps and then I open it back up |
| SlavekB | I fear that kpowersave-nohal depends on parts which are not backported. |
| MutantTurkey | ok don't worry then |
| MutantTurkey | it may be oneiric |
| MutantTurkey | it didn't happen before |
| SlavekB | But I am aware that even someone else reported the same behavior. |
| MutantTurkey | ok good |
| SlavekB | Only that I'm still not able to reproduce it => I do not have enough information to find the cause. |
| MutantTurkey | :/ |
| SlavekB | I have only one test machine with Precise, but it is a desktop. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | upgrading now |
| MutantTurkey | if it doesn't work then I quit ubuntu an dam going back to archlinux;) |
| SlavekB | A desktop literally => motherboard just loose on the table ;) |
| MutantTurkey | :p |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: why is krita getting rebranded, and also - when is 3.5.13SRU gonna be released? |
| SlavekB | Krita was rebranded long time ago. After integration package koffice-i18n I had to make rebranding also in this package. |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | ok:) |
| SlavekB | And in this process I found a few other places where it was also necessary to perform rebranding. |
| SlavekB | Therefore, the Sunday update of kdelib and kdebase :) |
| MutantTurkey | very good |
| SlavekB | ...and also kde-i18n, which I in this time prepare. |
| MutantTurkey | do you have any statistics on who uses your packages? |
| SlavekB | No, I do not have any information. |
| SlavekB | However, I hope that it will soon be possible to release them as official version. |
| MutantTurkey | why haven't you decided to release 3.5.13.SRU yet? |
| SlavekB | In the last week I updated the widely due to change the path to documentation. |
| SlavekB | Which finishing right now. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| SlavekB | Useful was that I made ​during that great control of all packages and corrected a number of minor errors in the packaging. |
| SlavekB | For example, move man pages that might in /usr/share/man conflict with packages from KDE4. |
| SlavekB | But it gives me a hard time all last week. |
| SlavekB | Today I have made ​one very useful change - replace sudo-trinity with better implementation (from R14). |
| MutantTurkey | reducing errors is good |
| MutantTurkey | I don't understand the whole sudo thing |
| MutantTurkey | gnome and kde don't need to do it |
| SlavekB | I also do not use sudo. |
| MutantTurkey | I see |
| SlavekB | In any case, I hope it was the last changes before the release v3.5.13.1. |
| MutantTurkey | good |
| SlavekB | Just me a bit nervous that the whole week was not heard François. :) |
| SlavekB | But maybe he's also busy with updating and building all packages ;) |
| SlavekB | After all, he supports Fedora, RedHat, Mandriva and Maegia - also has a lot work. |
| MutantTurkey | that on top of his regular life |
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| MutantTurkey | I wish I had full speed on the server :/ |
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| newbie999|3 | Please, tell me, why there is NO Trinity for openSUSE ? |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: the upgrade went well :) |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: I'm glad. |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 597 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=597 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: tdebindings FTBFS on Ruby 1.9 without patches |
| MutantTurkey | though I had some issues removing packages |
| MutantTurkey | unfortunately things don't get autoremoved |
| SlavekB | Note, a while ago I sent to build an updated kdeaddons. |
| MutantTurkey | like kword-data-trinity should be autoremove candidate when I remove kword |
| MutantTurkey | thank you |
| SlavekB | Do you use aptitude? |
| MutantTurkey | No only apt |
| SlavekB | Aptitude works with "automatic" state of packages which will automatically uninstall unneeded packages. |
| MutantTurkey | apt does as well |
| MutantTurkey | autoremove |
| SlavekB | The difference is that aptitude does this automatically immediately. With apt-get, you must manually. |
| MutantTurkey | I see |
| MutantTurkey | can I do it later on? I mean can I now do it with aptitude after using apt-get? |
| SlavekB | apt-get and aptitude can be combined. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | thank yo |
| MutantTurkey | thank you |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: do I need qt-x11-free-dbg ? |
| SlavekB | Only if you want to generate backtraces |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | can I remove it safely? |
| SlavekB | yes |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| SlavekB | and also other "dbg" packages. |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| MutantTurkey | I just need to reduce the number of trinity packages I have vecause upgrades are so slow |
| SlavekB | I understand :) |
| MutantTurkey | I do not want to work on kate bugs anymore |
| MutantTurkey | I do not like kate, the code base is ugly and terrible in my opinion |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 462 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=462 enhancement, P3, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, Allow Users to Choose Between Sessions and Projects and MDI or SDI |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: also why are all the packages in a kde group not a trinity group? |
| SlavekB | In R14 group will be 'tde'. |
| SlavekB | In 3.5.13.1 I did not want to make any major changes in branding. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | cool |
| SlavekB | Maybe it's time for me to finally push to GIT v3.5.13-sru version of tde-packaging :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1215 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1215 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpdf: No mechanism to disable/control kpdf metadata |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1216 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1216 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kcmprivacy: No option to delete kpdf metadata |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1217 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1217 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpdf: Slow to render certain documents |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1218 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1218 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpdf: What's This tooltips not available in Settings dialog |
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| mobileturkey | I met the Libertarian candidate in the US for president today! |
| SlavekB | mobileturkey: wow :) |
| mobileturkey | well sort of wow |
| mobileturkey | https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/290466_10151236283902813_887614096_o.jpg |
| mobileturkey | He only has 4% popularity |
| mobileturkey | because the US system is designed to prevent everyone else from running except too very moderate parties |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1178 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1178 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KHelpCenter Application Manuals Missing 3.5.13-sru |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1216 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1216 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kcmprivacy: No option to delete kpdf metadata |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1215 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1215 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kpdf: No mechanism to disable/control kpdf metadata |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1063 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1063 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: #error "Only <glib.h> can be included directly." |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1219 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1219 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kcmprivacy: provide an option to enable clean up when exiting Trinity |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: new issue |
| MutantTurkey | plymouth the boot manager endlessly runs |
| MutantTurkey | constantly eating 5% cpu |
| MutantTurkey | until i kill it |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1220 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1220 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity Webpage could be translated into several languages |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1221 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1221 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Debian installations intructions improvements |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1222 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1222 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Applications should be in the default TDE installation: k3b and kima |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1223 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1223 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Keramic theme is broken |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1224 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1224 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Keyboard in English despite having chosen Spanish |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1225 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1225 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, translations still incomplete in TDE 3.5.13 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1226 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1226 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDM don't draw well the background, artifacts can be seen |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1227 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1227 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, "Finish actual session" in "End session" window dialog don't work, just a black screen appears instead of KDM |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1228 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1228 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konsole as SuperUser |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1229 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1229 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KPackage and SUDO problem |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1230 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1230 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Synaptic don't work via menu |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1231 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1231 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, changes in file associations |
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| Z_God | SlavekB: hey! I installed your precise SRU packages the other day at work, but it seems they lack a kubuntu-desktop-trinity package, is that intended? |
| Z_God | otherwise they worked fine though :) |
| SlavekB | Z_God: Oops - for precise, right? |
| Z_God | SlavekB: yes :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1232 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDM in 3.5.13.1 requires Ctrl+Alt+Del |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1233 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1233 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, turn-off and restart not finished in TDE 3.5.13.1 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1232 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, KDM in 3.5.13.1 requires Ctrl+Alt+Del |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1232 from RESOLVED INVALID to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, KDM in 3.5.13.1 requires Ctrl+Alt+Del |
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| Aristide | Hi ! |
| Aristide | Do you have a repo for Ubuntu precise ? |
| Space_Man | not yet |
| Space_Man | they're being built etc at the moment |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1079 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1079 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, tooltips remain on screen when lock engaged |
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| Borg^Queen | 'ello 'ello |
| MutantTurkey | mornin |
| SlavekB | evening :) |
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| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| [|] | would someone mind giving me access to the repo on github? I've just fixed a slew of ebuilds for gentoo and would like to upload them once I'm done testing. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1234 filed by electronics45@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Can't login using kdm in virtualbox |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1079 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1079 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, tooltips remain on screen when lock engaged |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1111 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1111 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, [Regression] K3B: Fails to recognize certain ISO images |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1235 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1235 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail: Occasional endless loop with IMAP checking |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1111 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1111 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] K3B: Fails to recognize certain ISO images |
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| Waldy | hi tbottu |
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| SlavekB | Waldy: Yes. Version 3.5.13.1 is just before release. |
| Waldy | SlavekB, hi, thank you for your reply |
| Waldy | SlavekB, could you please tell me more about this version? |
| Waldy | will it also work for debian? |
| Waldy | when do you think could be a possible release date? |
| Waldy | we will need it for a lot of computers in the office |
| SlavekB | Here you can see the details: |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/ |
| SlavekB | And if you were interested in a detailed list of changes since 3.5.13, is here: |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13_1_Changelog |
| Waldy | Thank you very, very much, just reading the details |
| Waldy | As I can see, I could already add this to my sources.list |
| Waldy | is there any need to wait for the official release? |
| SlavekB | Yes, you can add ppa to your sources.list. |
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| Waldy | SlavekB, yes, I saw that I can add ppa to my sources.list |
| Waldy | the question is: |
| Waldy | Should I wait for the stable release, or will nothing change any more so I can already consider it as stable and use it? |
| SlavekB | Currently I planning to release by the end of the week. |
| Waldy | great, I am going to wait for that! |
| Waldy | you might know, there was always a Kubuntu KDE3 remix CD to download |
| Waldy | so there was no need to install a "normal" Kubuntu version and then install it via apt-get |
| Waldy | do you think such a CD will come out in the next time? |
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| SlavekB | I use netinst installation. Then add apt sources and install an Trinity. |
| SlavekB | Or you can take a look at ExeGNULinux: http://exegnulinux.net/ |
| Waldy | never heard about this, thank you, I am going to read about it |
| Waldy | SlavekB, would it help to donate to the project to keep it alive? |
| Waldy | (talking about trinity) |
| SlavekB | Help is always welcome. |
| Waldy | I see |
| Waldy | SlavekB, thank you very much for all the given informations |
| Waldy | I wish you a great day |
| Waldy | and thank you for programming :) |
| SlavekB | Waldy: Thank you. |
| Waldy | bye bye :) |
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| Space_Man | wow, 90 packages need to be updated |
| SlavekB | Space_Man: Yes - I rebuild packages to remove dependency on libogg-dev-la. |
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| Space_Man | is that important? |
| Space_Man | maybe I should read the mailing list! |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: 3.5.13 looks to be impressive. Do you mind if I update the wiki to include some other information? |
| MutantTurkey | like a small text area saying |
| MutantTurkey | "trinity desktop 3.5.13 is a stable release branch blah blah blah |
| SlavekB | Remains to build last - kdebase to which I'll also add a patches to solve bug 1079 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1079 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, new notifications briefly show above lock screen while lock is engaged |
| MutantTurkey | instead of no text at all |
| SlavekB | I welcome when someone prepare an official announce and official page with informations about the new version. |
| SlavekB | I've prepared a page with a detailed list of changes. |
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| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13_1_Changelog |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: also will there be an upgrade path from 3.5.13.1 to the next SRU? |
| MutantTurkey | will there be another SRU? |
| SlavekB | Currently I do not know. |
| MutantTurkey | Ok |
| MutantTurkey | do you think |
| MutantTurkey | Imagine after R14 is released |
| MutantTurkey | there should be a stable branch I think |
| SlavekB | I'll see, depending on whether there will be any other interesting fixes suitable for v3.5.13-sru. |
| MutantTurkey | Right |
| SlavekB | I assumed that after release R14 I will maintain the stable branch R14.0.x :) |
| MutantTurkey | that is what I was thinking |
| MutantTurkey | but I would like to be able to upgrade from 3.5.13-SRU to that |
| SlavekB | From 3.5.13.1 to R14? |
| SlavekB | I want to describe to the mailing list, how I would suggest working with branches for stable version R14. |
| Space_Man | tim's servers are slow again |
| SlavekB | :) |
| SlavekB | 19% [4 chalk-data-trinity 15129831/28,3 MB 53%] 4 548 B/s 9h 2min 16ss |
| MutantTurkey | always slow |
| MutantTurkey | you bastard stop upgrading! |
| MutantTurkey | you are stealing my upgrading speed! |
| SlavekB | ;) |
| MutantTurkey | it is rather slow |
| MutantTurkey | 1,000B/s |
| MutantTurkey | 700B/s |
| MutantTurkey | 6,300B/s!! |
| MutantTurkey | it's like reliving my old dialup |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: the changelog is very veery long |
| SlavekB | Yes - a lot of changes :) |
| SlavekB | I assume that in the official announcement should only be referred. |
| SlavekB | In order to be available for those who want to find if their "favorite" bug was fixed. |
| MutantTurkey | right |
| MutantTurkey | it should be mentioned, maybe a concated shorted index would be good |
| SlavekB | ...and for those who think that since the release 3.5.13 we do nothing. |
| MutantTurkey | like a quick list |
| MutantTurkey | eg "bugs 245 229 838 284 283.... were fixed" |
| MutantTurkey | and there list them out |
| SlavekB | I'll try it grep => sed from changelog. |
| Space_Man | only 86 updates left to download :( |
| Space_Man | it's my bandwidth |
| Space_Man | I started first |
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| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: lol |
| MutantTurkey | I got it |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: sed 's/[^0-9]*\([0-9]\+\).*/Bug #\1/' |
| MutantTurkey | oh wait there are othernumbers |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| MutantTurkey | dunno then, my sed skills are limited |
| SlavekB | It's okay - I like magic with regular expressions :) |
| MutantTurkey | lol ok |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: I want tosee some usage statistics as well |
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| Space_Man | 9 updates downloaded, 81 left |
| Space_Man | this is very slow |
| SlavekB | very very slow :) |
| Space_Man | it would be quicker if tim posted the updates on a cd or dvd |
| SlavekB | I plan to rebuild kdebase yet. And then could possibly be packages frozen and sent to the mirrors. |
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| Space_Man | finished downloading - Fetched 84.1 MB in 2h 27min 42s (9,490 B/s) |
| SlavekB | I still downloading :) |
| Space_Man | you now have some more bandwith |
| SlavekB | Thank you :) |
| SlavekB | 73% [23 kate-plugins-trinity 376164/620 kB 60%] 86,9 kB/s 9min 17s |
| SlavekB | Speed ​is absolutely staggering now :) |
| Space_Man | lol |
| Space_Man | is there any way to push these updates to a mirror server? |
| Space_Man | ubuntu used to do updates via torrents, could trinity use torrents to share the update bandwidth? |
| SlavekB | Yes. After I announce them as final, Tim will move it to official folder and will be mirrored. |
| SlavekB | wow - downloaded |
| Space_Man | congratulations |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1236 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1236 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, koffice FTBFS on 64-bit |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1235 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1235 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Kmail: Occasional endless loop with IMAP checking |
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| killy9999 | Hi guys |
| killy9999 | is there any progress in making Trinity available on openSUSE? |
| killy9999 | I've been waiting for it like... since Trinity was created |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 178 from REOPENED to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=178 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, ISO files should double-click open with kio_iso |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: Have you updated today? ;) |
| Space_Man | not yet |
| Space_Man | only 34 updates |
| Space_Man | what went wrong? |
| SlavekB | Only kdebase update :) |
| SlavekB | 1. replace dependency libogg-dev-la => libogg-dev2. patches for bug 1079 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1079 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, new notifications briefly show above lock screen while lock is engaged |
| Space_Man | wow the server is flying |
| SlavekB | I already have updated a long time ago ;) |
| Space_Man | and now it is slowing down |
| SlavekB | I have to go... |
| SlavekB | ...see you later |
| Space_Man | cya |
| Space_Man | and thanks for sharing the bandwidth :P |
| SlavekB | Now it's all yours ;) |
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| Space_Man | Fetched 43.8 MB in 15min 52s (46.0 kB/s) |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Hi |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: On the wiki page, I added a brief list of bugs. |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: please say that again? my program didn't open properly... |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: On the wiki page, I added a brief list of bugs. |
| MutantTurkey | awesome |
| MutantTurkey | Could you please link me to that? |
| MutantTurkey | did you also leave a brief note about what the SRU is? |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13_1_Changelog |
| SlavekB | A bit of statistics: |
| SlavekB | + bugs: 140 |
| SlavekB | + patches: 1190 |
| MutantTurkey | wow nice |
| MutantTurkey | that is incredible |
| MutantTurkey | with such a small team |
| MutantTurkey | you guys are very dedicated :) |
| MutantTurkey | is the release upcoming? I saw something about rc1 |
| MutantTurkey | we should prepare a press release and get ready to send it to our contacts in various linux websites |
| SlavekB | rc1 tarballs are available from last weekend. |
| MutantTurkey | very good, presumably one more rc or what? |
| SlavekB | I would like everything closed at the end of the week to the official release could be 1. October. |
| MutantTurkey | Ok I am sending out an email now about getting apress release together. Ok? |
| SlavekB | I'll send to mailing-list "last call" for patches. |
| MutantTurkey | ok I am sending a "3.5.13 SRU pre-release preparations" email |
| SlavekB | (Y) |
| MutantTurkey | how long does it take all of our mirrors to sync? |
| SlavekB | At the last-call for patches at the same time I want to suggest 1. October as the release date. |
| SlavekB | Time for synchronization, unfortunately I do not know. |
| MutantTurkey | I wil ask tim |
| SlavekB | If will be no more patches, packages can publish immediately. |
| SlavekB | Currently, everything is builded. |
| SlavekB | The question mark is over the new patch to kdepim (build time for armel is 24 hours). |
| MutantTurkey | Ok. |
| MutantTurkey | I think you should shoot for October 1st |
| MutantTurkey | yes most definitely |
| SlavekB | And the second question is with patch for k3b. |
| SlavekB | The bad news is also that build-farm is now a busy with nightly-builds. |
| SlavekB | If there will be a need to build anything, it will take some time. |
| MutantTurkey | What is your last name? |
| SlavekB | Banko |
| MutantTurkey | Look - whatever 1 patch or 2 is not worth it... How important can they be? |
| MutantTurkey | not worth an entire rebuild and a delayed releae |
| SlavekB | The patches for k3b is a mystery to me that on Debian I have not noticed behavior that has to solve :) |
| MutantTurkey | thanks |
| MutantTurkey | need it for the press release |
| MutantTurkey | I am putting you in as a contact |
| MutantTurkey | as "SRU coordinater" ok? |
| SlavekB | Ok. |
| SlavekB | I realized that if after the release 3.5.13.1 users reveals some interesting bugs, it may be the reason for 3.5.13.2. |
| MutantTurkey | right a |
| MutantTurkey | much smaller release hopefully? |
| SlavekB | definitely |
| SlavekB | If will be some next versions in 3.5.13-sru, will be certainly more often. |
| MutantTurkey | excellent |
| MutantTurkey | okay I sent te music |
| MutantTurkey | the email' |
| MutantTurkey | not thinking ;) |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: is the patch page working or is it just no patches for a week? |
| SlavekB | I hesitate to even have to send a call for last patches :) |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/55 |
| SlavekB | Additional patches may move release again :) |
| MutantTurkey | is http://trinitydesktop.org/patches/ working? |
| SlavekB | No, a few days sleeping. |
| SlavekB | k3b patch is: |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/k3b/commit/?id=8ade4e21303eb4feed76a9d8b26545f65dcc708a |
| SlavekB | kdepim patch is as attachment in bug 1235 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1235 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Kmail: Occasional endless loop with IMAP checking |
| MutantTurkey | I don't see how that could resolve the problem from just that patch |
| MutantTurkey | it seems to just be recasting some sizes |
| SlavekB | k3b patch is for bug 1111 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1111 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] K3B: Fails to recognize certain ISO images |
| SlavekB | But in my 32bit Debian Squeeze no such problems noticed - with 3.2 GiB ISO. |
| SlavekB | k3b works fine == bug 1111, kio-iso works fine == bug 178 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=178 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, ISO files should double-click open with kio_iso |
| MutantTurkey | wha tdistro? |
| MutantTurkey | who reported the problem |
| MutantTurkey | I can see it being a problem I guess because Iso's are a large len ;) |
| SlavekB | Darrell => Slackware. |
| MutantTurkey | int only goes to what? |
| MutantTurkey | That maybe the problem |
| MutantTurkey | find out what the size of int, it isn't standard I don't think |
| MutantTurkey | one solution I guess is to use a long |
| MutantTurkey | but slackware? so 1999 |
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| SlavekB | I added in the draft versions of debian and ubuntu. |
| SlavekB | I hope that someone will prepare a user friendly release notes. |
| MutantTurkey | Okay thank you |
| MutantTurkey | what do you mean by that? |
| MutantTurkey | We definitely need to link to our release notes in the press release |
| SlavekB | I hope something like this: |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13 |
| MutantTurkey | I am thikning it might be appropriate to have a pie chart |
| SlavekB | Shorter and more readable than a detailed changelog. :) |
| MutantTurkey | what do you think? :p |
| SlavekB | I'm not sure how we generate graphs. In bugzilla we not differentiate bugs related to 3.5.13.1 |
| MutantTurkey | I know |
| MutantTurkey | I will manually compile it no? |
| MutantTurkey | I think I will |
| MutantTurkey | just no good way to count it :/ |
| SlavekB | I have no idea what should the graph show? |
| MutantTurkey | the different commits |
| MutantTurkey | a pie graph |
| MutantTurkey | or is that dumb? |
| SlavekB | How do you mean "different commits"? |
| SlavekB | As kdelibs × kdebase × .... ? |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
| MutantTurkey | 23 kdegraphics 10 kdeedu etc |
| SlavekB | Oh, I see. |
| MutantTurkey | or dumb? |
| SlavekB | I do not know. |
| MutantTurkey | maybe I won't do it. |
| SlavekB | We can get statistics from diffs/commits - such as the number of added / deleted / changed rows. But for the users this might not be too interesting. :) |
| MutantTurkey | maybe not |
| MutantTurkey | i like numbers |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1237 filed by ozerski@list.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1237 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDE file save/open dialogs conflict with some third-party programs |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1235 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1235 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kmail: Occasional endless loop with IMAP checking |
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| Z_God | https://www.facebook.com/trinitydesktop |
| Z_God | I just created this page, maybe it'll promote things a bit more |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: Today there is nothing to update ... yet ;) |
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| edu | hello. i wonder if someone can help me. i use on an old pc, pclinuxos 2009.2, kde 3.5.10. Is there a way to update to trinity ? some repo,or something |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: hey is the release annoucment needing of more work? |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: mind reviewing it? |
| MutantTurkey | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/55 |
| SlavekB | Just watching :) |
| SlavekB | Did you talk to someone with David? I do not know how current are the packages for Arch. |
| MutantTurkey | No. He's obviously quite busy |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't heard from him in some time. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1238 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1238 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KFileReplace: add a maxdepth option |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 978 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=978 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kdebindings java support does not build with openjdk 1.7.0 |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com marked bug 178 as a duplicate of bug 1111. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=178 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, ISO files should double-click open with kio_iso |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1111 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] K3B: Fails to recognize certain ISO images |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1111 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1239 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1239 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail erroneously replying from wrong account |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1240 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1240 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail account settings reorganization |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1241 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1241 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kdenetwork 3.5.13.1 FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1241 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1241 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kdenetwork 3.5.13.1 FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1242 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1242 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kdenetwork 3.5.13.1 does not detect wireless-tools 30 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1243 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1243 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kdesdk 3.5.13.1 FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1243 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1243 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kdesdk 3.5.13.1 FTBFS |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: very close now? |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: hi |
| MutantTurkey | Hi:) |
| MutantTurkey | we should go to XZ since we are so limited in bandwidth |
| MutantTurkey | https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/arch-linux/ZRm6QsYunME |
| SlavekB | Well, it seems that xz is in deb source 3.0 supported. |
| SlavekB | I see another thing that could be improved - source deb packages are now bz2, but inside the binary deb packages is still gzip. |
| SlavekB | If it would be possible to switch to XZ on both, it could be saving in both source packages, so in binary. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1241 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1241 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kdenetwork 3.5.13.1 FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1244 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1244 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, GTK-Qt integration breaks some programs |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1245 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1245 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDM displays garbage |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1246 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1246 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmilo-legacy package need to be used |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1247 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1247 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Selecting "Monitor and Display" causes freeze |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1248 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1248 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Broken KPowersave icons |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1249 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1249 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Desktop switcher panel is too wide |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1250 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1250 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KBibTex not available in Trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1251 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1251 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Numbers on KMail an Akregator icon too small |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1252 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1252 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, libnjb required by Amarok causes udev warnings |
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| saleem | hi : i installed tde on arch linux : everything is working fine apparently but when i try to login i get error about kde interprocesses communication and dcopserver error and get warning to make sure that dcopserver is running and then kdm crashes : how to fix this issue? |
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| saleem | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488920 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 488920: was not found. |
| saleem | this is the bug i get too |
| saleem | any clue how to fix it ? |
| saleem | guess this room never speaks |
| SlavekB | saleem: Are some interesting informations in .xssession-errors? |
| saleem | i can paste SlavekB : need to look |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/4898293 |
| SlavekB | What distribution? |
| saleem | arch linux |
| SlavekB | Version from 3.5.13-sru? Or original 3.5.13? |
| saleem | this is -sru |
| saleem | from this mirror http://archlinux.us.to/3.5.13/i686/ |
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| SlavekB | In .xsession-errors I see: ICE Connection rejected! |
| saleem | yes |
| SlavekB | Programs - starting with DCOP, can not be accessed to your X. |
| SlavekB | It is started manually or from KDM? |
| saleem | so what can be done to fix it ? i run kde 4 fine on arch linux on another installation but on this separate installation with tde i saw this error for the first time |
| saleem | i got this error both from manual , with kdm and also on lxdm |
| SlavekB | sorry, I have to go... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1253 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1253 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: abakus 3.5.13.1 missing application icon |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1253 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1254 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1254 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: amarok 3.5.13.1 does not build with xine-libs 1.2 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1254 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| Borg^Queen | kn to all |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1255 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1255 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdesu/tdesudo both behave like "sudo" |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1256 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1256 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Quanta "Missing Apps" incorrect links |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1257 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1257 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Allow disabling of backup files when saving |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1258 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1258 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Remove window border from Konsole in fullscreen mode |
| rzs19 | any news about 3.5.14? |
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| rzs19 | or 3.5.13.1? |
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| SlavekB | 3.5.13.1 just at this time synchronizes to the mirrors. |
| SlavekB | You can expect an official announcement soon. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1256 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1256 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Quanta "Missing Apps" incorrect links |
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| Cmdr_Zod_ | Hello |
| Cmdr_Zod_ | I looks like there is a minor update out for debian squeeze, but a lot of files for amd64 don't exist on the server |
| Cmdr_Zod_ | Is this a known Problem? |
| SlavekB | Cmdr_Zod_: Hello |
| SlavekB | The update is still synchronizes to the mirrors. |
| SlavekB | ... it goes slowly. |
| Cmdr_Zod_ | ok, so patience is the key. Is there an ETA? |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately I do not have a complete overview. I just passively watching depot-trinity.dotriver.eu. |
| Space_Man | how big is the update? |
| Space_Man | are there many distros and versions involved? |
| Cmdr_Zod_ | i386 for debian squeeze seems to be done, that update went fine for me |
| SlavekB | Publish the packages from my PPA to the official. |
| Space_Man | will this be like the 3.5.13 release, which took several days to transfer to the mirrors? |
| SlavekB | Yes, soon you can expect a press release announcing 3.5.13.1. |
| * Space_Man can't wait | |
| SlavekB | Full size is roughly 14.5 GiB |
| SlavekB | Space_Man already has these packages installed from my PPA ;) |
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| TobiasX | Hello everyone! Hope anyone is here! |
| TobiasX | I have some serious problems with kmail-trinity at the moment |
| TobiasX | I noticed 2 messages pointing out problems which are linked to my own |
| TobiasX | messages on the mailing list |
| TobiasX | message one is the problem i am experiencing: kmail/kontact is crashing: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3701 |
| TobiasX | message two is a not the mirrors are syncing atm for new trinity version and therefore not complete regarding oct, 4th(yesterday) |
| TobiasX | i tried to get an apt upgrade but i get many 404 errors, saying that files are missing |
| Space_Man | currently the mirrors are being updated with a new Trinity update |
| Space_Man | it could take a few days! |
| TobiasX | ok, thx |
| Space_Man | there should be an announcement via the mailing lists |
| Space_Man | the update is slavek's axl repository which will now be known as Trinity 3.5.13.1 |
| TobiasX | so i can use the axl repo for getting updates right now to possibly fix my issue? |
| Space_Man | the problem in http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3701 appears to be caused by using old config files |
| Space_Man | I don't know if the axl repo is still available |
| TobiasX | I'll try to set up kmail with a clean user... |
| TobiasX | Ok. I totally wiped(with backup) my .trinity config folder in $HOME and set up the email accounts again without using any old config files. So far neither kmail or kontact is crashed. |
| TobiasX | Thank you very much for your help Space_man! |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1259 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1259 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, gtk-qt-engine: Change cache file location |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1259 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1260 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1260 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: bibletime requires an old version of clucene |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1261 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1261 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Regression: kgtk-qt3 3.5.13.1 does not work at all on RHEL6 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 258 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=258 normal, P1, ---, mutantturkey, PATCHAVAIL, ksmserver: Logout confirmation fadeaway is too slow with older hardware |
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| laurent\ | any of the mirror fully in sync ? |
| laurent\ | is there a mirror list ? wondering if you're already having one in france |
| SlavekB | I watch only a European mirror and it is not yet complete. |
| laurent\ | how come ? are the mirrors slow ? or is it an speed issue on the source ? |
| SlavekB | There is little bandwidth on the source. |
| laurent\ | ok |
| laurent\ | just wondering if providing a mirror would help, i guess it wouldn't. i guess all mirrors are simultaneously sucking from the source, all trying to sync @10KB/s :) |
| SlavekB | Exactly - all are now limited by the speed on source. |
| SlavekB | However, the European mirror has already synchronized basic packages and now performs synchronize applications. |
| laurent\ | ever thought of setting something like a hierarchy of mirrors ? something like 1 or 2 primary mirrors and secondary mirrors sucking from the primary ones ? |
| SlavekB | Yes, this is a good idea. However, this must be arranged with Tim. |
| laurent\ | ok, just to let you know, we'd certainly be ok to provide a mirror in france |
| laurent\ | we can talk about it when mirrors are sync'ed :) |
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| JotaMG | Hi all!!! |
| JotaMG | Does anyone here know by chance in what YEAR Trinity 3,5,13,1 will be released?? |
| SlavekB | Year 2012 :) |
| JotaMG | hope so!!! |
| JotaMG | why is it taking so long?? |
| l0ner | awfull lot of bugs? |
| JotaMG | really?? but I thought that 3,5,13,1 purpose was to correct bugs... |
| l0ner | and that's why it takes so long |
| l0ner | before thay can release, they need to correct them |
| SlavekB | The list of bug fixes is quite long. |
| JotaMG | ahh... how can I enable the the "Check Spelling" feature in Kopete? |
| JotaMG | it seems not working... |
| JotaMG | On my Debian Squeeze, using the Slavek repos, everything seems good... |
| JotaMG | I mean Trinity seems quite stable... |
| l0ner | btw? do trinity ebuilds for gentoo exist? |
| SlavekB | Now the synchronization to the mirrors is in progress (been running for whole week). |
| SlavekB | l0ner: I'm afraid that ebuilds are still not in good condition. |
| l0ner | ugh... who was doing them? |
| SlavekB | Once I found: |
| SlavekB | http://wiki.hasnoname.de/tde:trinity-overlay_on_funtoo_gentoo |
| l0ner | as i remember Serghei was doing them |
| l0ner | but now they are marked as unmaintanied |
| l0ner | in his github |
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| SlavekB | AFAIK, these maintained by someone else. |
| l0ner | ok, im looking at link you provided me |
| l0ner | atm i'm installing kde3.5 from kde-sunset overlay. I'll see how it works and then decide if i'll try to install trinity |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 910 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=910 normal, P1, ---, mutantturkey, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror: Add check box to control mouse wheel cycling over tab bar |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 909 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=909 normal, P1, ---, mutantturkey, PATCHAVAIL, Konsole: Add check box to control mouse wheel cycling over tab bar |
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| Space_Man | trinity needs faster upload capacity |
| Space_Man | but how can that be found / fixed? |
| Space_Man | would a second build server with a fast connection be a better solution |
| Space_Man | a temporary server that is only used when a build has been verified and checked, and is being released as an official point release |
| Space_Man | would it be possible to use an amazon cloud server? |
| Space_Man | I suspect it would take some time to create an identical setup on amazon, a setup that will consistently produce identical results to trinity's servers |
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| MutantTurkey | hey all |
| Space_Man | hi |
| MutantTurkey | what's up? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: hey man |
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| l0ner_ | hi Calvin! |
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| MutantTurkey | hey dude |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | how are you? |
| l0ner | good |
| l0ner | searching for a job |
| l0ner | and installing trinity on my laptop ;) |
| MutantTurkey | ;) |
| MutantTurkey | nice |
| MutantTurkey | the new release is due soon |
| l0ner | yeah, I've finally found working overlay :D |
| l0ner | great :) |
| MutantTurkey | cool I saw your tweet |
| l0ner | which one?? |
| l0ner | photo? |
| MutantTurkey | err |
| MutantTurkey | no the one about the overlay |
| MutantTurkey | I mean I see all of your tweets |
| MutantTurkey | lol |
| l0ner | oh, ok |
| l0ner | lol |
| MutantTurkey | since you tweet so damn much! |
| l0ner | :P |
| l0ner | i like to tweet xD |
| MutantTurkey | me too |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| l0ner | if I won't my head will explode xD |
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| MutantTurkey | heh |
| l0ner | Y'know, pressure rising due to concentration of thoughts ann then booom! |
| MutantTurkey | I know I know |
| l0ner | dang... I need a good mail flient for cli |
| l0ner | *client |
| MutantTurkey | use mutt! |
| MutantTurkey | i love it :) |
| l0ner | well, i've tried it in the past. Failed to configure it |
| l0ner | I'll try alpine this time |
| MutantTurkey | apline is ok |
| MutantTurkey | it's curses based as well |
| l0ner | well, i need someting simple that will allow me to send emails with attachements |
| l0ner | and maybe manage 2 or 3 different mail accounts |
| MutantTurkey | it'll do that |
| l0ner | then great ;) |
| l0ner | since I'm running cli-only gentoo in my lapotp |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| l0ner | and even when I'll get trinity installed, I'll use a lot more cli than de |
| l0ner | well, I wanted trinity, and I can't exactly install modern any DE on it |
| l0ner | since it's pretty old and low-grade |
| l0ner | pentium M 1.5GHz, 512Mb ram and Intel gfx card |
| l0ner | good for coding |
| MutantTurkey | yeesh terrible |
| MutantTurkey | upgrade buddy |
| MutantTurkey | why not use spectrwm or somethingt? |
| l0ner | thought about awsomeWM or smthing like that |
| MutantTurkey | get a T61 :-) |
| MutantTurkey | 300USD and an awesome laptop |
| l0ner | upgrade not. I just downgraded |
| MutantTurkey | why? |
| l0ner | remember my bitching about samsung laptop |
| l0ner | that's why |
| l0ner | i got my old laptop back running |
| l0ner | and dedicated it to linux |
| l0ner | and gave samsung to my mother |
| l0ner | and atm I don't have 300USD/euros whatever |
| l0ner | and when I'll get this kind of money, I'll go to UK to see my friend or back to PL to see my gf... |
| MutantTurkey | :) ok |
| MutantTurkey | where are you now? |
| l0ner | still ITaly |
| l0ner | and it won't change for some time |
| MutantTurkey | but your family is from poland no? |
| l0ner | yeah |
| l0ner | But we live here in italy |
| l0ner | and I want to go back to poland |
| l0ner | but first I need some money |
| l0ner | so i'll work some time here |
| l0ner | and then I'll see |
| MutantTurkey | what sort of job are you looking at? |
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| l0ner | well, I'm network/server admin so something like that |
| l0ner | or programmer, but I'm not that good |
| l0ner | or any work that pays |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | practice programming then ;) |
| l0ner | well, I'm doing so ;) |
| l0ner | I'm going through my C++ book |
| l0ner | and I have Java and Android SDK books waiting |
| l0ner | book on assembler too, but it's not on my priorities list |
| l0ner | and codecademy for python/ruby/JS/jQuery |
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| l0ner | pretty much I'm always busy learning to code :) |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 895 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=895 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, konqueror tabs - close tab not shown on hover / Advanced tab setting broken |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 772 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=772 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, Spell check does not remember previous spell check |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 230 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=230 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Amarok Keyboard Shortcuts Do Not Work Correctly |
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| tbottu | 10fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl changed the Status on bug 1247 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1247 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Selecting "Monitor and Display" causes freeze |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: absolutely good form! |
| MutantTurkey | now I suppose it's time to sit in the IRC and wait for questions |
| SlavekB | :) |
| SlavekB | Already there are some questions in a discussion group... |
| MutantTurkey | what is the upgrade path from the axis? |
| SlavekB | Who used my ppa now there is no need to update anything - packages are identical. |
| MutantTurkey | ok |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | website is incorrect |
| MutantTurkey | at the release secition on the home page |
| MutantTurkey | the rhel and stuff is not updated to 3.5.13.1 |
| SlavekB | I'm not sure if he François already published packages. |
| MutantTurkey | oh |
| MutantTurkey | did we send a press release out yet? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: also is there a permlink to the release? |
| SlavekB | permlink? |
| MutantTurkey | permanent link |
| MutantTurkey | like a link that goes always to that exact release |
| SlavekB | ? |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases/3.5.13.1/ |
| SlavekB | wow - download.html not exists |
| MutantTurkey | I posted it in /r/linux so give me an upvote :) |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/11bacg/trinity_desktop_35131_sru_released/ |
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| *** kb9vqf changes topic to "#trinity-desktop [Trinity Desktop Environment 3.5.13.1 is out! Get it at http://www.trinitydesktop.org Also, consider joining the Trinity mailing lists [http://bit.ly/hZ83mF]. IRC will be most active/helpful during business hours in the USA. BOTW #??? Support the Project! [http://bit.ly/pmkMVB]" | |
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| MutantTurkey | gah |
| MutantTurkey | tim shows up and leave immediately |
| SlavekB | Yes - just come through a change in topic :) |
| MutantTurkey | heh |
| MutantTurkey | maybe someone here should be given the op? |
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| MutantTurkey | me or you or someone who requents the channel |
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| TokRa | Hello there :) |
| l0ner | MutantTurkey: seen news on 3.5.13.1 |
| SlavekB | TokRa: hi |
| TokRa | I've just got a ham callsign: YL3AIM :) |
| SlavekB | ham - good idea - I'll find something to eat ;) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1248 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1248 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Broken KPowersave icons |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1262 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1262 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: several FTBFS building TDE 3.5.13.1 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1262 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| MutantTurkey | wow tokra holy crap |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: it's ameatur radio |
| MutantTurkey | not food ;) |
| MutantTurkey | YL3AIM is their "nick" |
| MutantTurkey | like Tim's is actually KB9VQF |
| SlavekB | Yeah, but when I'm hungry, I think about food ;) |
| l0ner | quick, question: which tqt version we have? |
| l0ner | and why I don't see tqt tarball in the mirror? I've found only qt3 tarball |
| SlavekB | If you download 3.5.13.1, so that uses qt3 with tqtinterface :) |
| l0ner | I'm talking about source tarballs |
| SlavekB | Source tarballs are for stable version. |
| l0ner | ok, now I'm getting really confused |
| l0ner | so, tqt3 is not stable? |
| l0ner | and for stable we use qt3 + tqtinterface? |
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| SlavekB | tqt3 is used in R14 |
| l0ner | ok, understood |
| SlavekB | In stable is used qt3 + tqtinterface. |
| SlavekB | ...from v3.5.13-sru branch in GIT. |
| l0ner | so, if I want to use tqt in my ebuilds I need to pull it from git, right? |
| l0ner | ok, understood |
| SlavekB | If you want to build stable version == 3.5.13.1, use git branch 3.5.13-sru. Or tarballs. |
| l0ner | tarballs are simplier to use in ebuilds |
| l0ner | btw: qt version is the same as release version, or they are different |
| l0ner | ? |
| SlavekB | qt3 in 3.5.13.1 has yet own version numbering: 3:3.3.8d-1. |
| SlavekB | ("3:" is debian epoch) |
| l0ner | k, i'll keep that in mind ;) |
| l0ner | afk |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1130 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1130 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Branch v3.5.13-sru -- Additional commits/fixes |
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| MutantTurkey | so sleepy |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: any people haivng major issues with 3.5.13? |
| MutantTurkey | .1 |
| SlavekB | A few appeared. |
| SlavekB | One who has problems with nvidia card. |
| MutantTurkey | I hate nvidia.. .always issues for me |
| SlavekB | One to whom something is broken when unwisely carried update from running TDE 3.5.12. |
| MutantTurkey | hmm |
| MutantTurkey | did they resolve? |
| MutantTurkey | upgrade to 3.5.12 -> 3.5.13 -> SRU is proper |
| MutantTurkey | no? |
| SlavekB | Previous weekend I update 3.5.12 => 3.5.13.1 at my parents. |
| MutantTurkey | and it worked? |
| SlavekB | Without any problems. |
| SlavekB | Weekend before I updated 3.5.12 => 3.5.13.1 on my netbook. |
| SlavekB | Without any problems. |
| MutantTurkey | hmm |
| MutantTurkey | well then |
| SlavekB | I always use aptitude in a text console. |
| MutantTurkey | I just use apt |
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| frankko | Is there any way to install trinity on quantal? |
| frankko | i tried the nightly ppa but it refuses to install with dependency problems |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1070 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1070 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdebindings FTBFS with ruby 1.9.3 |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 634 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=634 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, CDs not correctly recognized by TDE |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 586 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=586 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, 3.5.13 regression: kio-locate-trinity doesn't show any results in Konqueror |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1070 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1070 critical, P1, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdebindings FTBFS with ruby 1.9.3 |
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| AlexeyD | hello |
| AlexeyD | anybody know why "dependencies/tqca-tls" is not present on official mirrors? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1263 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1263 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok: db-setup links in first run wizard need fixed |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1186 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1186 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kpowersave(-nohal) FTBFS without HAL |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1070 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1070 critical, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdebindings FTBFS with ruby 1.9.3 |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1253 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1253 minor, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: abakus 3.5.13.1 missing application icon |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1254 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1254 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: amarok 3.5.13.1 does not build with xine-libs 1.2 |
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| irony | Does 3.5.13.1 do away with HAL? |
| SlavekB | No, 3.5.13.1 still requires HAL. |
| irony | I see. |
| irony | You wouldn't happen to know if 3.5.14 gets rid of it, would you? |
| SlavekB | Upcoming "main" version is already prepared so that HAL was not needed. |
| irony | I'll lurk for 14 then. |
| SlavekB | In 3.5.13.x branch we do not plan such a big change. |
| irony | No problem. |
| irony | I was merely wondering whether I should hold my breath for 14 or just resign and get HAL up and running. |
| SlavekB | I believe that the preparation R14 will still take a few months. |
| irony | I'm a patient man, don't worry. |
| SlavekB | I myself would not want to wait that long :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1264 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1264 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Allow display changes in Control Center without root permissions |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1265 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1265 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Allow changing time without root permissions |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1266 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1266 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Broken panels in Control Center and Akregator after upgrade to 3.5.13.1 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1267 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1267 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Problems when waking up from suspend |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1268 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1268 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Don't display archives in Konquerors tree view |
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| Space_Man | irony: it took 12 months for 3.5.13 to become 3.5.13.1 :P |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1243 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1243 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kdesdk 3.5.13.1 FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 978 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=978 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kdebindings java support does not build with openjdk 1.7.0 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 633 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=633 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Wiki Logo Needs Updating |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1269 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1269 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: libtqt-perl builds smoke support even when tdebindings has that support |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1269 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10chaotickjg@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1263 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1263 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Amarok: db-setup links in first run wizard need fixed |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1268 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1268 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror: No GUI control exists for controlling whether to display archives as folders |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 721 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=721 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Koffice will not build with poppler or ruby support |
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| rzs19 | hello boys, i read this fabulous news about tde 3.5.13.1 and there also stand something about opensuse 12.2 - so where is the repo? |
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| SlavekB | AFAIK, François on OpenSUSE version for working hard. |
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| tbottu | 10rom_as@oscada.org changed the Status on bug 989 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=989 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Documents directory expand into System menu broken. |
| tbottu | 10rom_as@oscada.org changed the Status on bug 906 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=906 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, kdesktop_lock contains irritating bugs |
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| MutantTurkey | Hey all |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 247 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=247 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, KPersonalizer: Add support for left-handed mouse users |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1197 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1197 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdeeject improvements |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1236 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1236 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, koffice FTBFS on 64-bit |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1175 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1175 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, xpdf is not updated with latest sources |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 803 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=803 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, tdesdk: Update kbugbuster to function with Trinity bugzilla |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 774 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=774 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror user agent spoofs are woefully out of date |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 803 from PATCHAVAIL to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=803 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, tdesdk: Update kbugbuster to function with Trinity bugzilla |
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| tomman | Hello there |
| tomman | Are there packages for Debian Wheezy? I see a repo for it, but it looks empty |
| SlavekB | tomman: hi |
| SlavekB | For Wheezy are now available only nightly-builds. |
| SlavekB | But those are not very suitable for everyday use. |
| SlavekB | ... it's a development version. |
| tomman | Oh, I see... |
| tomman | What's the policy there - will the project wailt until Wheezy is promoted to "stable" or something? |
| tomman | I really want to try Trinity for obvious reasons: I'm just coming from Fedora Core 6... |
| SlavekB | We assume that at the time of release Wheezy may already have released a new version of the Trinity - R14. |
| SlavekB | Therefore, we (yet) not prepare stable version of Trinity for Wheezy. |
| tomman | Well, I could give a spin to nightlies while I wait... |
| SlavekB | I myself use Squeeze + Backports + Trinity 3.5.13.1 |
| tomman | I was about to install Squeeze, but my initial trials were not that pretty with my old laptop |
| tomman | Wheezy works much smoother on it, so I went for it. |
| SlavekB | Therefore, might help you Backports. |
| SlavekB | ...newer kernel, newer XOrg. |
| SlavekB | On my netbook also helped me with hibernate / resume and Xorg stability. |
| tomman | I'm still not familiar with the whole Debian stuff (have been always a RedHat'er)... |
| tomman | ...but I think that I will settle with Wheezy. I've installed it 3 weeks ago and haven't experienced dealbreakers yet. |
| tomman | Also, I consider my whole laptop "a development version"... |
| SlavekB | Once upon a time I used RedHat Linux - before it was Fedora. :) |
| tomman | I was using Fedora Core 6 until 3 weeks ago! (still use it - I bought a spare HDD just for installing Debian) |
| tomman | And before that, FC4 and F7 (shortly). And CentOS 6 at work |
| tomman | What is kinda funny is the fact that my main router runs an ancient Debian Sid, yet I've never messed up with it too much |
| tomman | (aside of building my own kernel and tuning some stuff here and there) |
| tomman | this is my first full-blown Debian setup. |
| SlavekB | I used RedHat Linux from 5.1 to 7.3. Then I switched to Debian 3.0 - Woody :) |
| SlavekB | ... and since I had no reason to change distribution. |
| tomman | Well, thanks for everything! |
| tomman | Will wait until the next release then |
| tomman | hopefully... |
| tomman | Need to do some cleanup on this ancient laptop :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1270 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1270 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kiconedit: Uses non-standard Ctrl+W to close app |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1271 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1271 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, tdepim: kitchensync will not build against opensync >= 0.39 |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1271 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| ZackBamm | hellp |
| ZackBamm | errm hello i meant |
| SlavekB | ZackBamm: What's happened? |
| ZackBamm | nothing. i just wondered why you don't include alternative styles :) |
| ZackBamm | this f.e. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/The+Reinhardt+Style+(formely+Slicker)?content=5962 |
| ZackBamm | with this "windeco" http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/flatKnifty?content=30483 |
| ZackBamm | but the latter is not so important, becaus "dot net / web" or whatever it was called did also. but not as nice |
| ZackBamm | when i used this with a fitting colorscheme and this iconset http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Primary?content=39469 |
| ZackBamm | i had one of the most relaxed times using kde, or desktops as such |
| ZackBamm | really sad those times are gone (sniff) |
| SlavekB | You can fill request in bugzilla :) |
| ZackBamm | so SlavekB, to summarize what happened, i became aware of your new release, felt tried to install squeeze because it seems the least hassle, saw those styles are not included, and came here to rant about it. this happened :) |
| SlavekB | Probably would not be a problem some styles to select and prepare packages. |
| ZackBamm | maybe i'm trying myself when the archers got the base to sru1 |
| ZackBamm | because that is my current distro |
| ZackBamm | anyways. i really really did and DO like kde3 |
| ZackBamm | but... |
| ZackBamm | whithout this reinhardstyle it is useless for me :) i seem to have a strange asthetic there, maybe resulting from using it so long, and been so happy with it |
| ZackBamm | otoh i'm not that motivated to torture my electrotrash with source and compiling anymore. |
| ZackBamm | pentiumIII@933 with 512 MB ram is not that fun to develop with, nowadays |
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| ZackBamm | so...basically... i'm searching for something to give me the feeling of usability and aesthetics/ergonomics from yesteryear back today on hardware from yesteryear :) |
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| tbottu | 10fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl changed the Status on bug 1265 from NEW to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1265 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, Allow changing time without root permissions |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1272 filed by ulrich.gemkow@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1272 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, rpath not set on installed libs/binaries |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 694 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=694 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Help/Handbook files still reference KDE |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 597 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=597 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdebindings FTBFS on Ruby 1.9 without patches |
| MutantTurkey | f(x) = ln(x-1) + 1 |
| MutantTurkey | whoops |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1273 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1273 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, k9copy: Crashes when opening a video file in DVD Author mode |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1119 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1119 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Multiple FTBFS (k3b, k9copy, krusader, kchmviewer) issues post glibc 2.16 |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1050 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdebase FTBFS against Qt3 |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1111 from CONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1111 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] K3B: Fails to recognize certain ISO images |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1179 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1179 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Obsolete link in Kmail OpenPGP passphrase dialog |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1274 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1274 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, FTBFS: Incorrect position idn into tree/kopete/protocols/jabber/kioslave/CMakeLists.txt |
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| mirela666 | Hi |
| mirela666 | Does anyone know how to disable ctrl+alt+del on startup? |
| SlavekB | mirela666: in /etc/trinity/kdm/kdmrc enable UserSAK=false |
| SlavekB | UseSAK |
| mirela666 | SlavekB: thanks :) |
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| mirela666 | do I need any restart or logout should be enough (cause that didn't work) |
| SlavekB | Restart at least kdm-trinity. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1275 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1275 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, SAK in KDM breaks reboot/poweroff: init: no more processes left in this runlevel |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1067 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1067 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror: Tab popup context menu does not include Move Tab Left/Right options |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 183 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=183 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, gwenview suggests gwenview-i18n |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1276 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1276 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kbiff package for trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1277 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1277 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kshutdown package for trinity |
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| saleem | hi, i want to run konqueror as super user but i cant with command kdesudo-trinity konqueror-trinity |
| saleem | how to fix this issue? |
| saleem | alt+f2 kdesudo-trinity konqueror-trinity : error Could not run the specified command. |
| SlavekB | Try without '-trinity' in names. |
| saleem | i did : that doesnt work either |
| SlavekB | Have you installed package kdesudo-trinity? |
| saleem | yes |
| saleem | and im on ubuntu precise |
| SlavekB | TDE 3.5.13.1 or R14 (nightly-builds)? |
| saleem | former : did try to install later but there were missing dependencies which would not allow me install trinity desktop |
| saleem | i would prefer nightly build if it is somehow installable |
| SlavekB | Both should now be possible to install smoothly. |
| saleem | you want me to upgrade to nightly build? |
| SlavekB | 3.5.13.1 are 'stable' |
| saleem | yes but there are few minor issues as i mentioned one already |
| SlavekB | I asked because in R14 is kdesudo renamed to tdesudo. |
| saleem | im lost what is stopping kdesudo from working for konqueror |
| saleem | the error says kdesudo Command not found! |
| SlavekB | And when you try it with full path? |
| saleem | kdesudo-trinity konqueror-trinity |
| saleem | Could not run the specified command. |
| SlavekB | Full path as: /opt/trinity/bin/kdesudo |
| saleem | ok |
| saleem | Command not found! |
| saleem | /opt/trinity/bin/kdesudo konqueror |
| SlavekB | /opt/trinity/bin/kdesudo exists? |
| saleem | /opt/trinity/bin/kdesudo-trinity konqueror-trinity Could not run the specified command. |
| saleem | i will check that as well |
| SlavekB | Try both with full path: |
| SlavekB | /opt/trinity/bin/kdesudo /opt/trinity/bin/konqueror |
| saleem | yes it exists /opt/trinity/bin/kdesudo |
| saleem | ok |
| saleem | now konqueror opened as super user mode |
| SlavekB | Have you /opt/trinity/bin in your $PATH? |
| saleem | wonder why would it need to ask for such a full path |
| saleem | where do i look for $PATH? is it a file? |
| SlavekB | In konsole try: echo $PATH |
| saleem | ok |
| saleem | $ echo $PATH |
| saleem | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/opt/trinity/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games |
| saleem | looks like its there |
| SlavekB | When you try: "kdesudo konqueror" from this konsole? |
| saleem | $ kdesudo konqueror |
| saleem | sudo: konqueror: command not found |
| SlavekB | And: "kdesudo /opt/trinity/bin/konqueror" ? |
| saleem | konqueror opens as super user with this out put in konsole |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/5078837 |
| SlavekB | Aha - after switching to root (by sudo) then probably has not /opt/trinity/bin in path. |
| saleem | can it be fixed? |
| SlavekB | Adding /opt/trinity/bin to PATH in /root/.profile? |
| saleem | i can try |
| saleem | one more question : should i stick to stable or use nightly build ? |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1274 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1274 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, FTBFS: Incorrect position idn into tree/kopete/protocols/jabber/kioslave/CMakeLists.txt |
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| saleem | if i want to install trinity desktop on kubuntu 12.04 can i enable kubuntu backports sources? |
| SlavekB | saleem: Although I have not tried it, I do not expect any problems. |
| saleem | thank you SlavekB |
| saleem | i hope to manage installing it on kubuntu precise and remove kde4 completly and just run tde |
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| l0ner_ | do we habe akode anywhere in the git or tarballs?? |
| l0ner_ | *have |
| SlavekB | l0ner_: you can use tarball from debian / ubuntu build-deps: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/+packages?field.name_filter=akode |
| l0ner_ | ok, thanks. I hope it will work on gentoo. |
| Space_Man | <saleem> if i want to install trinity desktop on kubuntu 12.04 can i enable kubuntu backports sources? |
| Space_Man | is trinity available for ubuntu 12.04? |
| Space_Man | maybe 3.5.13.1 is |
| * Space_Man checks | |
| Space_Man | "For Precise [Ubuntu 12.04] LTS (v3.5.13.1)" |
| Space_Man | yes, trinity is available for 12.04 |
| Space_Man | *ubuntu* |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1278 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1278 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdenetwork cmake conversion lacks support for OpenSLP |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1040 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1040 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdenetwork and amarok FTBFS with GIT commit 477d071b |
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| saleem | im running stable tde on precise and none of the file managers open as super user : is someone else facing the same issue or just me? |
| saleem | i thought my installation was busted so i did netinstall of prcise once again and installed trinity desktop and once again i get same issue |
| saleem | does it mean its some kind of bug and even the stable version of trinity is borked? |
| saleem | i think no one is around |
| saleem | or everybody is asleep |
| saleem | or may be nobody wants to talk |
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| saleem | hi YL3AIM |
| YL3AIM | Hi, saleem |
| saleem | are you using trinity desktop ? |
| YL3AIM | Not anymore, switched to KDE4, but still interested. |
| saleem | i installed it on precise but there are still issues with trinity |
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| saleem | how do i enable nightly build repos for ubuntu precise? |
| saleem | cant find the repos/ppa for that |
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| tbottu | 10mckaygerhard@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 391 from RESOLVED INVALID to UNCONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=391 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, UNCONFIRMED, subversion kwallet kde3 integration for 1.6 (taht only use kde4) for debian realy linux |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1279 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1279 normal, P5, ---, mutantturkey, NEW, kate/kwrite stalls a long time opening any *.kcrash file |
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| Eldin | I've installed TDE on Fedora 17 running in VirtualBox, from the repository at http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f17/trinity-3.5.13-f17.repo. The instalation seemed to go fine, but when I launch trinity, my mouse stops working until I reboot. Has anyone heard of or experienced this sort of issue? |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 862 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=862 minor, P1, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, kate: update C++ syntax highlighting support to recognize TQT commands |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1280 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1280 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, migrate[tdebase]kde3 and r14-xdg-update scripts are install independantly to any build rule. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1281 filed by leeereportbugs@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1281 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ksysguard 3.5.13.1 no longer recognises lm-sensor data |
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| rzs19 | doese wheezy work with TDE 14.0.0 nightly builds? |
| SlavekB | rzs19: Yes, for Wheezy is available TDE R14 in nightly-builds. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1282 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1282 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, File conflict in tdeartwork packages |
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| Waldy | hi |
| Waldy | at first, I wanted to thank all developers for the new version of trinity for Precise Pangolin! |
| Waldy | additionally, I wanted to ask, if there will be a Ubuntu 12.04 installation CD with trinity desktop preinstalled? |
| Waldy | The last version I could find is for Ubuntu 10.10 |
| Waldy | http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/index_desktop.html |
| SlavekB | Sure it's a good idea. Only I do not know whether it is now someone who will prepare this. |
| SlavekB | We have a shortage of helpers. |
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| Waldy | SlavekB, I've just read about something called minimal installation |
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| Waldy | what about downloading a normal Ubuntu installation CD, choosing "Install a command line system" and installing trinity desktop later? |
| Waldy | would it be the same as the cd images from pearson? |
| Waldy | if yes, it would be very simple to create an installation-cd later on from this... |
| Waldy | I've done something like this before |
| SlavekB | Yes - you can also use "netinstall" CD. Such a CD is smaller. |
| SlavekB | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD |
| Waldy | SlavekB, ok, I will do so |
| Waldy | SlavekB, I hope it will run as stable as the old installation cd's with trinity preinstalled |
| Waldy | I've tried out installing trinity in an earlier version beside KDE4 and it only produces errors |
| Waldy | when I used the preinstalled cd's it worked perfectly |
| Waldy | SlavekB, there is one thing I am really interested in: How many users does trinity have? Are there more or less than 5000 people using KDE3 (trinity) |
| Waldy | I'm going to shower, will be back soon |
| Waldy | but feel free to answer in the meantime :) |
| Waldy | SlavekB, sorry, I need to leave... |
| Waldy | SlavekB, if you answer after I've left, I will see in in the channel logs... |
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| Waldy | See you, thank you very much! |
| Waldy | bye bye |
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| Eldin | I've installed TDE on Fedora 17 running in VirtualBox, from the repository at http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f17/trinity-3.5.13-f17.repo. The instalation seemed to go fine, but when I launch trinity, my mouse stops working until I reboot. Has anyone heard of or experienced this sort of issue? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1283 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1283 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Unified Kontact system tray icon |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1284 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1284 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [cmake issue] kwin is renamed to twin but BUILD_KWIN flag doesn't |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 789 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=789 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kaffiene: does not detect header files in subdirectories |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1054 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1054 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: soundkonverter FTBFS without --with-extra-includes |
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| Fat-Zer | hi all, what is the tdeinit_phase1 binary? what's it propoused for? and why it supposed to be better than a simple script? |
| Fat-Zer | repling to my self: it was in the mail list: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5338 |
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| rzs19 | SlavekB: thank you, for the fast response :) |
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| Fat-Zer | hi, is there any repository with source tarballs? or they are suposed to be recived from git? |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/releases/3.5.13.1/downloads.html |
| Fat-Zer | thx |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1284 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1284 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [cmake issue] kwin is renamed to twin but BUILD_KWIN flag doesn't |
| rzs19 | does knetworkmanager and klaptopdaemon in TDE 14.0.0 with wheezy work? |
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| DeeTah | hi guys! |
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| Marty_Stoopid | hello |
| Marty_Stoopid | is there a way to get internationalisation for trinity ? |
| SlavekB | Marty_Stoopid: You can install package kde-i18n--trinity. |
| Marty_Stoopid | actually there is no package for this in [tde3513] repo for archlinux |
| Marty_Stoopid | where can i find source ? |
| SlavekB | In GIT: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-i18n/log/?h=origin/v3.5.13-sru |
| SlavekB | Source tarballs: http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/releases/3.5.13.1/downloads.html |
| Marty_Stoopid | thanks fot that |
| Marty_Stoopid | i'm gonna try to make a package in AUR |
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| Marty_Stoopid | bye bye |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1285 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1285 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Hidden symbols support is incomplete |
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| rzs19 | what is with knetworkmanager in TDE 14.0.0 NightlyBuilds, there is only a Meta Pakage. |
| rzs19 | i want to move from openSuSE 12.2 to Debian Wheezy and its a laptop, so i need network manager. :) |
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| rzs19 | huhu Slavek |
| rzs19 | whats wrong with the knetworkmanager pakages in TDE 14.0.0 ? |
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| SlavekB | It appears that in the current nightly-builds has a FTBFS problem. |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/+packages?field.name_filter=networkmanager&start=0&batch=50 |
| rzs19 | is there a possibility to get a package from older builds? |
| SlavekB | Yes, superseded packages are available: |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/+packages?field.name_filter=networkmanager&field.status_filter=superseded&start=0&batch=50 |
| SlavekB | You have to find the latest there. :) |
| SlavekB | Hmm, but how I look at it, the R14 version still contain bug. |
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| rzs19 | i know, we have tried it inside virtualbox. |
| rzs19 | what i need is a kde 3.5 alike desktop with battery in systray and a working networkmanager. |
| SlavekB | I use debian squeeze with TDE 3.5.13.1 and both is working :) |
| rzs19 | becouse, kde 3.5 with opensuse 12.2 is a disaster. |
| rzs19 | kmail is slow, hangs, crash |
| rzs19 | so i want change back to debian. |
| rzs19 | gecko and webkit engine for konqueror would be nice. |
| rzs19 | what for a laptop do you use? |
| rzs19 | and debian wiht backports? |
| SlavekB | Yes, Squeeze + Backports. |
| rzs19 | and your using knetworkmanager and not nm-applet? |
| rzs19 | sry for that much questions :) |
| SlavekB | knetworkmanager |
| rzs19 | and if i remember correct, there was a plan to integrate gecko and webkit in konqueror, is that right? |
| rzs19 | becouse ff with xul gui is damn slow |
| rzs19 | and i miss splitting :) |
| SlavekB | If I remember correctly, the gecko should be possible to use now. |
| SlavekB | (with 3.5.13.1) |
| rzs19 | kewl! |
| rzs19 | gosh i love this DE :D |
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| argv_turk | http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ |
| argv_turk | Presidential 3rd party debate! |
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| rzs19 | doesn't krandr support dual head? |
| rzs19 | with krandr i can only enable, or disable a output. i need to do the configuration over the console. |
| rzs19 | and what about gecko as kpart for konqueror? |
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| SlavekB | rzs19: Setting the individual screens in krandr would be good - now I also use xrandr in console. |
| rzs19 | is there any news, when TDE 14.0.0 will be available? Another thing: kickoff menu, hibernate to disk and ram is missing, the layout manager does'nt strech the buttons horizontal. |
| rzs19 | the classic menu has the options. |
| rzs19 | just in kickoff its missing |
| SlavekB | Oh, I do not use kickoff menu, so I had not noticed. |
| SlavekB | Can you fill bug report about these defects? |
| rzs19 | and battery is missing, the config dialog says, that acpi is only partially supported, but the command "acpi" shows the correct percentage. |
| SlavekB | This is all for R14 nighly-builds? |
| rzs19 | offcourse, this evening i will take a closer look. |
| rzs19 | no stable 3.5.13.1 |
| rzs19 | R14, kickoff hangs completely. |
| rzs19 | could'nt test the rest, couse it was inside a virtual maschine. |
| rzs19 | i have bought a second laptop, for testing TDE 14.0.0 :) |
| SlavekB | Have you tried kpowersave for battery status? |
| rzs19 | how embarrassing... yes it works, just the kcontrolcenter doesnt work. |
| rzs19 | my misstake |
| rzs19 | there are some other bugs, concern kickoff, will write a bug report and playing a little bit arround :) |
| rzs19 | tabbing in kmail would be nice and kmozilla, webkit. |
| rzs19 | it works, i'm happy :) |
| rzs19 | oh and kdesktop has some problems with xrandr, or when using xrandr wrong |
| rzs19 | ah and another thing, i'm now working on the tu vienna, maybe they can give us a mirror? |
| SlavekB | More mirrors can be useful. |
| SlavekB | I use xrandr on notebook to turn on the second desktop area on the second monitor and it works correctly. |
| rzs19 | mostly it works, but i found a combination, which will have some side effects. |
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| Fat-Zer | while compiling trinity-3.5.13.1 I noticed that uic tries to create some locks under QTDIR. Is there a way to prevent such behavior? |
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| Qu4Z | Evening all. Sorry if this is answered elsewhere, but is there some sort of (unofficial) gentoo overlay available yet? |
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| Fat-Zer | Qu4Z: I'm working on it right now |
| Qu4Z | Sweet, thanks. I'd be happy to give it a test run if/when appropriate. Just highlight me on here or something. (If you like/want) |
| Fat-Zer | i've already packaged kdebase and kdeartwork-derived packages |
| Fat-Zer | now I'm clearing uses and dependencies |
| Fat-Zer | but I'm still not sure if it will be ready after that to be anounced to the wide public... |
| Qu4Z | Well, I'm willing to beta-test. It's probably easier than building it from scratch myself, which I'm not sure I have the patience for right now |
| Fat-Zer | ok... wait a minute... |
| Fat-Zer | here is repository: git://github.com/Fat-Zer/trinity.git branch second-life |
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| Fat-Zer | Inotify is a replacement for FAM/GAMIN in context of kdelibs? |
| Fat-Zer | in other words: is there any reason to enable then both on the same system? |
| Fat-Zer | *them |
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| Qu4Z | OK, Fat-Zer. I've got that overlay hooked up and I'm gonna try to build kdebase-starttde. Is that the right one? (I seem to recall building kdebase-startkde used to be the way to get the kde base system pulled in) |
| Fat-Zer | yes |
| Fat-Zer | it's it... |
| Qu4Z | Side note: It's in trinity-base, but still called kdebase-starttde as far as I can tell |
| Fat-Zer | it's becouse 3.5.13.1 wasn't rebranded |
| Qu4Z | Ah, okay |
| Fat-Zer | call ebuilds in such way make eclasses writing easier... |
| Qu4Z | No worries :) I found it just fine. |
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| Qu4Z | Fat-Zer: Hm... this is 404ing for me: http://trinity.blackmag.net/releases/3.3.8d/dependencies/qt3-3.5.13.1.tar.gz |
| Fat-Zer | yes...it should be http://trinity.blackmag.net/releases/3.5.13.1/dependencies/qt3-3.5.13.1.tar.gz |
| Qu4Z | Looks like it should be releases/3.5.13.1/dependencies/ |
| Qu4Z | Hah, yeah |
| Qu4Z | I just figured that out too |
| Qu4Z | How do you rebuild a Manifest again? I changed it, but it refuses to comply with my demands |
| Fat-Zer | ebuild /path/to/to.ebuild digest |
| Qu4Z | Thanks :) |
| Fat-Zer | just pushed the fix to git |
| Qu4Z | Well, I'll pull that then. Better than rolling my own fix, 'though educational it is |
| Qu4Z | Looks like it's working now -- thanks |
| Fat-Zer | no problem... |
| Qu4Z | I'll let you know how it goes |
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| Qu4Z | Very nice. Trinity seems to be up and running |
| Qu4Z | Is this a binary package, or are computers just way faster since the KDE-3.5 days? (Or is it CMake?) |
| Fat-Zer | Computers are faster=)) and cmake is faster too |
| Qu4Z | I've really missed Trinity/KDE3, even if I'm very used to xterm+wmii now |
| Qu4Z | So I'm glad to have it back :) |
| Fat-Zer | I'll still use the 3.5.10 unless I'll compile all needed tools... |
| Qu4Z | Well, I pretty much haven't used it since KDE4 was released, for a number of reasons |
| Qu4Z | Although I chose Unix scheme at the start, now I don't know half the keyboard shortcuts |
| Qu4Z | But that's what the config is for :) |
| Fat-Zer | ok.. have fun... I'm really glad that just someone use if... |
| Fat-Zer | I'm gotta go... bye |
| Qu4Z | Bye :) |
| Qu4Z | Ooh, I like the new display settings widget thing |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1286 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1286 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [cmake issue] WITH_SUDO_KDESU_BACKEND option is present it tdelibs but wasn't defined and described |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1287 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1287 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmail does not honor the "Forever" option when accepting ssl certificates |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1288 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1288 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesktop_lock crashes |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1289 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1289 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [cmake issue] xcomposite support in tdelibs is not optional |
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| K`zan | Just gave Trinity a go on my new 64bit ubu 12.04 LTS. Seemed OK, but got weird on the wireless. Apparently only supports WEP. |
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| SlavekB | K`zan: For this version of Ubuntu is not available kdenetworkmanager - to setting wifi unfortunately you have to use some other tool. |
| SlavekB | K`zan: The solution will be up to R14 |
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| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: Hi, if you got some time, can you take a look on BUG 1280 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1280 trivial, P3, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [cmake issue] migratekde3 and r14-xdg-update scripts are install independently to any build rule. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1274 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1274 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Incorrect position idn into tree/kopete/protocols/jabber/kioslave/CMakeLists.txt |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1242 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1242 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kdenetwork 3.5.13.1 does not detect wireless-tools 30 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1290 filed by rabid.zombie.squirrel@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1290 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpowersave 100% CPU usage |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1291 filed by rabid.zombie.squirrel@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1291 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, some kickoff menu bugs |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1292 filed by rabid.zombie.squirrel@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1292 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Webkit and Gecko render backend for Konqueror |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1293 filed by rabid.zombie.squirrel@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1293 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, krandr multi-head support |
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| DeeTah | anyone here? |
| Fat-Zer_ | useless question.... |
| DeeTah | okay :P |
| DeeTah | so, well |
| DeeTah | lost of my programs (vim, tkinter) complain about "Warning: Color name "BACKGROUND" is not defined" |
| DeeTah | i'm using tde nightly on debian wheeze. what can I do about it? |
| Fat-Zer_ | sorry... i can't try to reproduce it now... I'm still trying to compile 3.5.13.1... |
| Fat-Zer_ | btw, how to use nightly builds? I haven't found any instructions and i'm not very familiar with debian? |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1278 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1278 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdenetwork cmake conversion lacks support for OpenSLP or XMMS |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 598 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=598 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdenetwork will not build on Slackware with wifi support |
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| DeeTah | Fat-Zer_: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3861 |
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| mase | Hello. I think I've borked my install. |
| mase | After a dist-upgrade ondebian wheezy I couldn't login anymore |
| mase | xsession-errors says: unable to open file /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap for reading |
| mase | and it is not there infac |
| mase | if i try to purge trinity i get: a dpkg divert error because auf /usr/bin/plasma and plasma.kde4 which do not exists |
| SlavekB | mase: This is not a fatal error. This has no effect to login. |
| mase | the other error is: mkdtemp: private socket dir: permission denied |
| mase | neither kdm-trinity nor gdm work though and lxde neither |
| SlavekB | Permissions on /tmp are okay? |
| mase | i have rwxr-xr-x |
| SlavekB | I have rwxrwxrwt |
| mase | good catch that atleast allows me to login |
| mase | now i need to see how i can get trinity installed again |
| mase | any ideas? |
| mase | ksmserver-trinity seems neither installed nor uninstallable |
| SlavekB | You could try to remove the information about plasma.kde4 from /var/lib/dpkg/diversions. |
| SlavekB | There should always be a pair of names followed by the package name. |
| SlavekB | Find the naughty and remove all three common lines. |
| SlavekB | For example, I see in my diversions instead of the package name only the colon - which is definitely suspicious == suitable for removal. |
| mase | ok, I removed the lines but know the error happens wehen dpkg wants to readd those lines when I install again |
| mase | rename involves overwriting /usr/bin/plasma.kde4 with /usr/bin/plasma |
| SlavekB | You have installed KDE4? |
| mase | no but it might have been installed at some point |
| SlavekB | If you have not installed kde4, you can simple remove /usr/bin/plasma.kde4. |
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| mase | now it can't find libkdeinit_ksmserver.so |
| SlavekB | I estimate that in the nightly-builds are libkdeinit_* already named libtdeinit_*. |
| mase | if i want a minimal is enough to install kdebase-trinity |
| mase | *install |
| SlavekB | Do you use nightly-builds or 3.5.13.1? |
| mase | 3.5.13.1 |
| SlavekB | I vote for minimum installation ksmserver-trinity. |
| mase | ok, so I've purged all packages now and will try an install |
| mase | even though it did install kdm-trinity, there is no /etc/init.d/kdm-trinity |
| mase | ok, maybe that happend because kdm was still started |
| mase | good. trinity works again. thanks for help |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1236 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1236 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: koffice FTBFS on 64-bit |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 735 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=735 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: KOffice: FTBFS with ruby 1.9.1 installed |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1294 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1294 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [cmake-build issue] Mix from options -O2, -O3, Os, -g |
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| DeeTah | is there any workaround for the lack of i18n trinity packages for debian wheezy? |
| SlavekB | DeeTah: Download and use the package for Squeeze. |
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| Marius80 | hi |
| Marius80 | Please help me with a problem that occured while installing |
| Marius80 | I started with an alternate kubuntu cd and choosed "Install a command-line system" |
| Marius80 | after that, I added the trinity repository to my sources.list and ran aptitude update |
| Marius80 | then, I tried to install trinity desktop |
| Marius80 | this happened: |
| Marius80 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdeprint-trinity : Conflicts: foomatic-db-compressed-ppds but 20120322-0ubuntu1 is to be installed. libept0-trinity : Depends: libapt-pkg4.11 (>= 0.8.16~exp5ubuntu13) which is a virtual package. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: Are you around? |
| * SlavekB just dinner... | |
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| SlavekB | Marius80: Do you have the apt sources with ubuntu updates? |
| SlavekB | Marius80: It is possible to remove the package foomatic-db-compressed-ppds? |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: I am not sure if I understand your first question |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: foomatic-db-compressed-ppds is not installed yet |
| Marius80 | it would be installed with trinity together |
| Marius80 | Is it wrong that I used a kubuntu and not a ubuntu cd? |
| Marius80 | as I said, it was a Kubuntu alternate CD with the option "command line system" |
| Marius80 | so there was no Desktop environment |
| SlavekB | It does not matter whether you use kubuntu or ubuntu cd. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: since it was a very, very new system - what could be wrong? |
| SlavekB | Alternate cd without DE is good choise. |
| Marius80 | as I said, the very first thing I did was installing trinity |
| SlavekB | What distribution version? |
| Marius80 | so there was no other new software |
| Marius80 | 12.04 |
| SlavekB | Have you precise-updates in sources.list? |
| SlavekB | And precise-security. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: I will paste the whole stuff to pastebin |
| Marius80 | one moment please |
| Marius80 | http://pastebin.com/DssYkPaW |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: should I have done some kind of upgrade first? |
| Marius80 | as I said, I pasted the very last four lines into the "sources.list" file |
| Marius80 | then "aptitude update" |
| Marius80 | and after this: |
| Marius80 | aptitude install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| Marius80 | and then the error showed up |
| SlavekB | sources.list seems to be ok |
| SlavekB | It surprises me libapt-pkg4.11 because in the distribution is libapt-pkg4.12. |
| Marius80 | would I need an "aptitude upgrade" first? |
| Marius80 | One more thing I wonder about: Where is the network manager? |
| Marius80 | there was always such a grey globe |
| Marius80 | in the tray |
| Marius80 | btw. I finally installed trinity by ignoring all error messages |
| SlavekB | I'm looking into trinity apt sources and libept-trinity depends on libapt-pkg4.12. |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately for Precise kde network manager is not available. |
| SlavekB | It will be up to the R14. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: what is R14? |
| Marius80 | and: How can I connect to WIFI? |
| Marius80 | btw. thank you for chatting with me |
| SlavekB | Trinity R14 - upcoming new version. |
| SlavekB | So far, you have to use some other tool - such as wicd. |
| Marius80 | I hum... |
| Marius80 | okay.... when the new version comes out, can I simple upgrade then? |
| Marius80 | but still be using 12.04 ? |
| SlavekB | Development state of R14 is currently prepared for Ubuntu Lucid, Maverick, Natty, Oneric, Precise, Quantal and Debian Squeeze, Wheezy :) |
| SlavekB | Precise - 12.04 is an LTS will be supported so long. |
| Marius80 | I see.... maybe I should wait for this release |
| Marius80 | do you know about any release date? |
| Marius80 | erm... sorry I got one more question |
| Marius80 | I press ALT+F2, but my K Menu opens instead of the run dialoque window |
| SlavekB | I suppose it will still take several months. |
| Marius80 | and: In the K Menu there is a very ugly "search" function |
| Marius80 | can I get rid of that search field in the K Menu? |
| SlavekB | Yes, it can be turned off. |
| Marius80 | where? |
| SlavekB | In Control Center / Desktop / Panels / Menus - turn off Show search field in K Menu. |
| Marius80 | thank you :) |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: I just found out something really scary |
| Marius80 | apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| Marius80 | ^ seems to work |
| Marius80 | aptitude install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| Marius80 | ^ produces the errors |
| Marius80 | ?! |
| SlavekB | wow |
| Marius80 | (playing around on virtual machines) |
| SlavekB | I just tried it and both works for me. |
| SlavekB | I have a "very" clean base system. |
| Marius80 | how did you start? |
| Marius80 | alternate cd? |
| Marius80 | command line installation? |
| SlavekB | This is my build machine - prepared by pbuilder :) |
| SlavekB | (using debootstrap) |
| Marius80 | actually, trinity is such a great project, its really - great - but I think someone should continue producing all-in-one CD's |
| Marius80 | like it was before, Ubuntu + KDE 3 on one CD |
| SlavekB | You're right - updated CD missing. |
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| Marius80 | SlavekB: however, people (including me) should not only tell you about missing things. In fact, trinity is a GREAT project |
| Marius80 | I love trinity and thank you and all the other developers for keeping trinity (kde3) alive |
| Marius80 | and even more, developing it |
| SlavekB | We are happy for each additional user. |
| Marius80 | is there a statistic how many users trinity hasß |
| Marius80 | ? |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, we have no numbers. |
| Marius80 | I guess its a big amout of happy users :) |
| SlavekB | It's nice to hear. |
| Marius80 | btw. the next test run starts now |
| Marius80 | I will keep you informed soon |
| Marius80 | maybe it will help the developer |
| SlavekB | By the way, I'm just working on Trinity 3.5.13.1 packages for Ubuntu Quantal - 12.10. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: shall I download 12.10 ? ;-) |
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| SlavekB | Marius80: Trinity basic packages are already available. Now I working on applications. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: ok, now I definitly can tell you following results |
| Marius80 | a) upgrading does not help |
| Marius80 | b) aptitude produces the error |
| Marius80 | c) apt-get does not produce any error at all |
| SlavekB | Interesting. |
| Marius80 | d) its really libapt-pkg4.11 and NOT libapt-pkg4.12 |
| SlavekB | And the base was a command line installation? |
| Marius80 | yes |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: I just did it again |
| SlavekB | I do not see where that takes libapt-pkg4.11 when in the distribution is libapt-pkg4.12. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: any idea how I can send you (or put online) a very large command line output from a command line system? |
| Marius80 | copy and paste will not work |
| SlavekB | Redirecting output can help? |
| Marius80 | not really, I already redirected it to a file |
| Marius80 | gimme a moment |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: any public ftp server around? |
| SlavekB | I do not know. |
| Marius80 | got it, I install icewm |
| Marius80 | then I can use copy and paste |
| Marius80 | you will get the output soon |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: http://pastebin.com/b2f5USkp |
| Marius80 | here you go :) |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: I will have to leave here soon, - shall we talk more tomorrow? |
| Marius80 | Maybe you will be able to figure out something by looking at my paste |
| SlavekB | I'll be here :) |
| Marius80 | okay, thank you very much |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: please look at the paste... http://pastebin.com/b2f5USkp |
| Marius80 | see you soon |
| Marius80 | bye bye |
| SlavekB | bye |
| Marius80 | thank you very much! |
| Marius80 | :) |
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| Qu4Z | Fat-Zer: Is the second-life branch on the gentoo overlays still the one I should be tracking? (some sort of staging/beta branch) because it looks like most of the work is happening on master and I want to try the new changes :D (repo_name is set now, woohoo \o/) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1295 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1295 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [cmake issue] unnecessary and potentially harmful check in tdegraphics/kfile-plugins/dependencies/poppler-tqt/ConfigureChecks.cmake |
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| Marius80 | re |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, I'm back again :) |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1245 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1245 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, KDM displays garbage |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1296 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1296 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, KControl: Provide GUI check box control for tdmrc AllowRootLogin |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1296 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1297 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1297 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Provide detection and user warning when the Trinity compositor cannot be enabled |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1298 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1298 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TQ_ENUMS is not defined in tqt.h |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1295 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1295 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, [cmake issue] unnecessary and potentially harmful check in tdegraphics/kfile-plugins/dependencies/poppler-tqt/ConfigureChecks.cmake |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1286 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1286 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, [cmake issue] WITH_SUDO_KDESU_BACKEND option is present it tdelibs but wasn't defined and described |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1280 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1280 trivial, P3, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, [cmake issue] migratekde3 and r14-xdg-update scripts are install independently to any build rule. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1299 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1299 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Bugzilla documentation issue] Status=PATCHAVAIL is not described on a help page. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1300 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1300 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [cmake issues] A meta-BUG to track multiple cmake-related bugs/issues in one place. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1301 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1301 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [cmake issue]kghostview fails to compile in parallel mode e.g. -j2 |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1301 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1302 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1302 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [cmake issue] libkscan in CMakeList.txt named libksane |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1302 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1289 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1289 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: xcomposite support in tdelibs is not optional |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1298 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1298 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TQ_ENUMS is not defined in tqt.h |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1286 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1286 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: WITH_SUDO_KDESU_BACKEND option is present it tdelibs but wasn't defined and described |
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| Marius80 | hi all |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, hey :) Could you find the error in the meantime? |
| SlavekB | Marius80: hi |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, I still did not have enough time to test it on my testing machine. |
| SlavekB | I'm working on the last packages for Quantal. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, on the last packages? Cool.... so will it be out soon? |
| Marius80 | in this case I would wait for Quantal |
| Marius80 | by the way, I tried kde4 again, and I am so unhappy with it |
| SlavekB | You can already use my PPA. |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?&field.series_filter=quantal&start=0&batch=150 |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, please excuse that I ask, but I am not sure about this |
| Marius80 | if I use this repository, but it's not finished yet |
| Marius80 | what then? |
| SlavekB | From this repository packages will then be published in the official repository Trinity. |
| Marius80 | so when I use this repository by now, but it's not finished yet, what would happen? |
| SlavekB | In fact, missing only a few applications. |
| Marius80 | can these applications be installed later on? |
| Marius80 | after they move to the official repository? |
| Marius80 | is there a list of everything missing at the moment? |
| SlavekB | Of course, applications could be installed later. |
| Marius80 | and what is missing at the moment? |
| SlavekB | Missing is: adept, kde-guidance, kdesvn, kmplayer, python-trinity, tykdeextensions, smartcardauth, tellico. |
| Marius80 | just that I know what I will have to expect |
| Marius80 | thats all? |
| Marius80 | so the whole KDE Environment will work, we are just talking about a few programs nobody needs? |
| SlavekB | I hope I have not forgotten any more missing applications :) |
| Marius80 | the network manager also work? |
| Marius80 | +s |
| SlavekB | No, it is still 3.5.13.x release, not R14. |
| SlavekB | New network manager will be in R14. |
| Marius80 | sorry I forgot again what R14 is |
| Marius80 | KDE version is 3.x |
| Marius80 | Ubuntu is 12.x |
| Marius80 | what is R14? |
| SlavekB | Besides, you can compare a list of packages in Precise :) |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?&field.series_filter=precise&start=0&batch=150 |
| Marius80 | I see... |
| SlavekB | R14 will be new master release of Trinity. |
| Marius80 | the master release :) Sounds good :)) |
| Marius80 | so trinity will be kept developed.... |
| SlavekB | Yes, the development continues. |
| Marius80 | thank you :) |
| Marius80 | I really tried to get used to kde4, but I can't |
| Marius80 | so many little things annoying the users all day long |
| SlavekB | In R14, for example, will be replaced dependency on HAL. |
| Marius80 | cool!! So you are not only keeping kde3 alive, you are developing something really new |
| Marius80 | I hope to see R14 soon :) |
| SlavekB | So far, it is expected that it will be in the spring. |
| Marius80 | very good |
| Marius80 | so I only need to use the current version for a few month |
| Marius80 | as far as I see, I could use "wicd" instead of the networkmanager in the meantime |
| SlavekB | I'm using Debian Squeeze, where I can still use network manager :) |
| Marius80 | ?! |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, sorry for taking your time, but could you please tell me why? |
| Marius80 | I am also willed to use Debian |
| Marius80 | as long as I get a stable system |
| SlavekB | On the Squeeze is still Network Manager 8.x - this is compatable with KDE Network Manager from Trinity. |
| Marius80 | lemme check something |
| Marius80 | oh I see, thats the current stable version |
| Marius80 | if it would have been testing, I'd have used it |
| SlavekB | I like a stable system and backports provide me newer version of the key programs - kernel, xorg, LibreOffice, ... |
| Marius80 | including php? |
| SlavekB | No, php is not in backports. |
| SlavekB | Hovewer, you can use dotdeb apt source - for newer php, mysql,... |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, actually we are arguing in a circle |
| Marius80 | if I use Kubuntu 12.04 I will get a system supported for 5 years |
| Marius80 | with new software |
| Marius80 | the networkmanager... I think I will not need it |
| Marius80 | there is wicd which can handle wifi |
| Marius80 | what else do I need the network manager for? |
| Marius80 | the only problem is the error message I pasted at http://pastebin.com/b2f5USkp a couple of days ago |
| Marius80 | if this would work out, I would use it as it is |
| SlavekB | ...and after release R14, you will have a new trinity network manager :) |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, there is only one unsolved problem |
| Marius80 | I cannot install trinity with the existing error |
| Marius80 | you remeber... |
| Marius80 | kdeprint-trinity : Conflicts: foomatic-db-compressed-ppds but 20120322-0ubuntu1 is to be installed. |
| Marius80 | libept0-trinity : Depends: libapt-pkg4.11 (>= 0.8.16~exp5ubuntu13) which is a virtual package. |
| SlavekB | And if instead of installation using meta-package you install the individual parts - begining with ksmserver-trinity? |
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| Marius80 | SlavekB, look who came |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, yofel knows about the problem |
| Marius80 | <yofel> aptitude is broken on amd64 in at least 12.04 due to multiarch issues |
| Marius80 | (from #kubuntu channel |
| yofel | er ok, can I get a short summary of the discussion? |
| Marius80 | yofel, yes, you can |
| Marius80 | yofel, SlavekB is a great guy developing trinity desktop |
| Marius80 | he is working on a master release which will come out next sprint |
| Marius80 | spring |
| Marius80 | now, I wanted to install the current version which came out some weeks ago |
| Marius80 | this version can be found at http://www.trinity-desktop.org |
| Marius80 | I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS |
| Marius80 | for installing, I used a command-line installation and then tried to install trinity desktop |
| Marius80 | what happened is this: |
| Marius80 | http://pastebin.com/b2f5USkp |
| Marius80 | yofel, the developer SlavekB could not understand why this error comes up because of two reason |
| Marius80 | 1) at his system, everything works out |
| Marius80 | 2) the error says something about libapt-pkg4.11, but the dependency is libapt-pkg4.12 |
| Marius80 | the very interesting this is this: |
| Marius80 | if I use apt-get install ... instead of "aptitude install..." everything works without any errors |
| Marius80 | that's why I am very unsure about what to do |
| yofel | well, I'll check what the dependencies really are to start with |
| Marius80 | yofel, how will you do this? |
| yofel | the apt-cache tells that |
| yofel | and currently it tells me: http://paste.kde.org/587234 |
| yofel | so aptitude isn't really wrong here |
| Marius80 | and why does apt-get not tell any errors? |
| yofel | which package did you try to install? |
| Marius80 | according to http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/UbuntuBinaryInstallation I tried to install: |
| SlavekB | When I look into aptitude on Precise for libept0-trinity I see dependency on libapt-pkg4.12 (>= 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.2). |
| Marius80 | kubuntu-default-settings-trinity |
| Marius80 | and |
| Marius80 | kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| SlavekB | Therefore, it is strange to me, what takes dependency on libapt-pkg4.11 at Marius80. |
| yofel | hm, let me re-check something |
| Marius80 | yofel and SlavekB, thank you very much for talking to each other |
| yofel | SlavekB: just curious: what's your version of libept0-trinity ? |
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| yofel | the archive gives me 0.5.26debian9 |
| SlavekB | Same == 0.5.26debian9 |
| yofel | SlavekB: and this is the right archive? http://paste.kde.org/587246 |
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| yofel | if I get the source, the last version it was built for was oneiric. That has libapt-pkg4.11 indeed, but precise has 4.12 |
| yofel | a simple rebuild would probably suffice |
| Marius80 | oh, so there is an old package on the server? |
| SlavekB | Wait, I'm checking something. |
| SlavekB | Oh, I see it - on my build machine I have libept-trinity from my apt source == rebuilded for Precise. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, so you solved it?! :-)) |
| SlavekB | Yes, I will prepare the correct version. |
| Marius80 | great :))) |
| Marius80 | thank you very much!!! |
| Marius80 | yofel, thank you sooo much :) |
| Marius80 | now my day is perfect :) |
| SlavekB | Then Tim has to ensure its publication to official repository. |
| SlavekB | Thank you for the notice. |
| yofel | that leaves: kdeprint-trinity : Conflicts: foomatic-db-compressed-ppds but 20120322-0ubuntu1 is installed. |
| yofel | intentional? |
| SlavekB | This is the "ugly" solution incompatibility with compressed PPD. |
| yofel | ok |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, how will we get informed when the working version is online? |
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| SlavekB | I'll try to do it as soon as possible. I hope that Tim will publish updated package soon. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, thank you very much |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, if possible, please write a little sentence on the website so we all know when it's finished |
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| Marius80 | SlavekB, do you know if KDE4 and trinity desktop can co-exist on the same system without *any* problems? |
| Marius80 | or will KDE4 affect trinity in any way? |
| SlavekB | I tried it like this on two machines and I did not find any problems. |
| SlavekB | Trinity nicely shows in own menus also KDE4 programs. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, well, so I will install kubuntu with KDE4 for the moment, and whenever trinity is working without this little bug, I will install trinity |
| Marius80 | will be back soon |
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| Marius80 | re |
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| Marius80 | SlavekB, is your repository already useable? |
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| Marius80 | hi |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, thank you for the update today |
| Marius80 | actually we got a couple of new errors now :) |
| Marius80 | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9TPGbTAX |
| SlavekB | Marius80: I'm still at work... |
| Marius80 | oh, sorry |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, is there anything I can help? |
| Marius80 | my skills are perl, php, mysql |
| Marius80 | see you soon |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1076 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1076 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: Rosegarden FTBFS on 64-bit |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1302 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1302 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: libkscan in CMakeList.txt named libksane |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1076 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1076 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Rosegarden FTBFS on 64-bit |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1147 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1147 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kbfx use hardcoded directories in cmake macros |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 865 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=865 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kopete "Gaim" chat window style needs renaming |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 945 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=945 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kpilot can't find tqt headers |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1128 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1128 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror TDE Development profile tabs open to KDE web sites |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 943 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=943 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kmplayer: Can't find the TQt version of the dbus-1.0 headers |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 942 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=942 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: k3b: Can't find the TQt version of the dbus-1.0 headers |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1303 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1303 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KSquirrel: Update to use libexiv2 rather than libkexif |
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| SlavekB | It may be interesting for Ubuntu users: |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3926 |
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| saleem | hi, anyone running tde on arch linux? |
| saleem | im getting weird error even that tde mirror is apparently working fine |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/5180815 |
| saleem | any idea whats wrong? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1304 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1304 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror: Use target ownership when copying files |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1041 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1041 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdesdk/kbugbuster FTBFS |
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| saleem | any idea why i get this error ? http://pastie.org/5189522 |
| saleem | the mirror works fine in a browser |
| saleem | is trinity borked as usual on arch linux? |
| saleem | im here for the 2nd day but none replies here |
| SlavekB | saleem: Status of packages and mirrors for Trinity on Arch unfortunately I do not know. |
| saleem | and looks like their wiki has not been updated either |
| saleem | i wanted to try trinity but seems its not possible atm |
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| javierll | hello |
| javierll | can you help me to install trinity? |
| SlavekB | javierll: hi |
| SlavekB | what distribution? |
| javierll | debian wheezy |
| SlavekB | What Trinity version? Stable or nightly builds? |
| javierll | I like both |
| javierll | sorry for my bad english, and thanks for helping me |
| SlavekB | Stable (3.5.13.1) is not just for Wheezy. |
| SlavekB | My english is also bad :) |
| SlavekB | But you can use on Wheezy apt source Trinity for Squeeze with some packages from Squeeze. |
| javierll | I tried to use Squeeze repo, but it have conflicst with some pakages |
| javierll | There is nightly builds for wheezy? |
| SlavekB | I tried it with the following apt sources: |
| SlavekB | deb http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian wheezy main non-free contrib |
| SlavekB | deb http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates main non-free contrib |
| SlavekB | deb http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| SlavekB | deb http://ucho.ignum.cz/debian-multimedia testing main non-free |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main |
| SlavekB | deb http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian squeeze main non-free contrib |
| SlavekB | deb http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian squeeze-updates main non-free contrib |
| SlavekB | deb http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| SlavekB | With that, I installed ksmserver-trinity - as a minimum basis. |
| SlavekB | And then I have picked the individual packages with the required programs, such as kmail-trinity, amarok-trinity,... |
| javierll | ok, thanks, I will try it |
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| samelian | Xu_R: I need your native english skills :) |
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| Xu_R | samelian: I'm here now, sure. |
| samelian | Xu_R: hehe, nevermind, I figured out eventually |
| Xu_R | Ok :) |
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| Saleem | SlavekB, are you there atm? |
| SlavekB | Saleem: hi |
| Saleem | hello SlavekB |
| Saleem | are you providing ubuntu tde packages? |
| SlavekB | I'm still at work. |
| Saleem | ah ok |
| SlavekB | Yes, I am preparing packages. |
| SlavekB | For stable - v3.5.13-sru branch. |
| Saleem | would you make an iso based on precise with tde? any plans? |
| SlavekB | I have no experience in preparing Ubuntu CDs. |
| Saleem | im looking for a premade iso since i installed tde on my precise and was getting lot of errors, just want to try an iso made by someone else |
| SlavekB | wrong dependencies? |
| SlavekB | A few days ago I repaired libept-trinity package. |
| SlavekB | Previous version caused an error in the dependencies. |
| Saleem | i dont know what went wrong but i was getting lot of weird errors right at login on kdm and on many other places so i formatted it since it was not usable on daily basis |
| SlavekB | Ah, strange. |
| SlavekB | When preparing packages I have had Precise on the my test machine and everything on it worked properly. |
| Saleem | may be i messsed up something |
| Saleem | i would love to have a working tde on precise so i can make its remasters with remastersys for use on other pcs, if i can make one clean and neat flawless tde precise installation |
| Saleem | there is a debian version with tde exe gnu linux, but i like to have ubuntu |
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| Saleem | SlavekB, i found the first error i was getting |
| Saleem | here is a screenie, others also reported it |
| Saleem | http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1141.0;attach=119;image |
| Saleem | please have a look |
| SlavekB | Requires login :( |
| Saleem | yes and it did not work and i could not login to tde desktop or if i would X would crash in a little while |
| SlavekB | Remastersys web requires login :( |
| Saleem | ah |
| Saleem | ah |
| Saleem | i will upload this scrrenie for you somewhere to see it |
| Saleem | hold on pls |
| SlavekB | Try to uninstall package kgtk-qt3-trinity. |
| SlavekB | Or, if it would break dependencies, rename file /opt/trinity/share/kgtk/preload. |
| Saleem | http://imgur.com/c0iWk |
| Saleem | have a look please |
| SlavekB | kgtk-qt3-trinity is often culprit. |
| Saleem | so you want me to try this clue? |
| Saleem | and what name i give to /opt/trinity/share/kgtk/preload as you mentioned? |
| SlavekB | Yes uninstall kgtk-qt3-trinity or rename /opt/trinity/share/kgtk/preload. |
| Saleem | ok i will rather un install it |
| Saleem | thanks for the tip i will give it a go now and report back to you in a while |
| Saleem | brb |
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| saleem | SlavekB: what login manager do you recommend? lightdm or something else? |
| SlavekB | I am happy with kdm-trinity. |
| saleem | ok |
| saleem | and can i keep Kubuntu Backports and kubuntu updates repos enabled? |
| saleem | btw i have a huge list of PPAs enabled as well |
| SlavekB | If you do not use KDE4, Kubuntu sources do not need. Just Ubuntu original sources. |
| saleem | ok |
| saleem | i will paste all my sources list for you to recommed to remove which ones |
| saleem | SlavekB: http://pastie.org/5336484 |
| SlavekB | wow, that's a long list :) |
| saleem | yes i keep loads of ppas :) |
| saleem | so i guess i will give it a try and see how it does |
| saleem | brb, will report if i fall into some problem |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1305 filed by russell@lls.lls.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1305 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror doesn't with latest (last?) libflashplayer.so |
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| saleem | SlavekB: are you around? |
| saleem | i need your help SlavekB |
| saleem | there is a weird issue : all my windows and other linux partitions are visible in KDE4 dolphin and i can mount/open them but they are not mountable in trinity dolphin , why is so? |
| saleem | can someone suggest any fix pls? |
| SlavekB | Are visible in Konqueror in media:/ ? |
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| saleem | no SlavekB |
| SlavekB | Check if you are a member of the group "plugdev". |
| saleem | ok let me check |
| saleem | can i paste here? |
| saleem | or use pastebin |
| SlavekB | Look in /etc/group :) |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/5340269 |
| SlavekB | Or by command 'id'. |
| SlavekB | Ok. |
| saleem | also http://pastie.org/5340271 |
| SlavekB | It looks right. |
| saleem | they sould mount when i click them as it was able to happen on KDE4 |
| saleem | something is messing up |
| SlavekB | Trinity currently uses the HAL. |
| saleem | i will look for HAL if it is installed or not |
| saleem | btw HAL is obsolete these days in distros like arch linux |
| saleem | currently im completly removing KDE4 packages |
| saleem | once thats done i will check for HAL |
| SlavekB | Yes, therefore in the new version - R14 - will be a new solution - not dependent on HAL. |
| SlavekB | In the Precise HAL me sometimes angry. |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/5340292 |
| SlavekB | It is usually recognized by the fact that in logout dialog is missing sleep and hibernate. |
| saleem | SlavekB: do you know command to completly remove purge all KDE4 packages? |
| SlavekB | aptitude search "~ihal" |
| saleem | ok |
| SlavekB | I do not know if there is a "central" meta package, which can be used for uninstallation. |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/5340305 |
| saleem | hal and hal-trinity are installed |
| SlavekB | Try to reinstall hal: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3857 |
| saleem | let me check |
| saleem | problems |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/5340330 |
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| SlavekB | dpkg --ignore-depends=hal-trinity,kde-guidance-powermanager-trinity --purge hal |
| saleem | as sudo? |
| SlavekB | Yes |
| saleem | ok |
| saleem | it is removing loads of packages, is that ok? |
| SlavekB | This should remove only package hal. |
| saleem | i will paste all, hope i did not break the whole system :( |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/5340350 |
| saleem | have a look please |
| SlavekB | wow, installing one package led to uninstall many others: o |
| saleem | yup |
| saleem | what now? reinstall all those back again? |
| SlavekB | It seems as if the whole Trinity uninstalled. |
| saleem | looks likes so |
| SlavekB | Try: sudo aptitude install desktop-base-trinity |
| saleem | ok |
| saleem | more errors :) |
| saleem | http://pastie.org/5340379 |
| saleem | SlavekB: this page gives this command |
| saleem | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| SlavekB | Ah, sorry: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| SlavekB | desktop-base-trinity is on Debian ;) |
| saleem | :D |
| saleem | ok it is reinstalling it |
| saleem | should i reboot once this is complete? |
| SlavekB | Yes |
| saleem | lets hope it works, i will reboot now |
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| saleem | SlavekB: no luck |
| saleem | im going to install lightdm and check |
| saleem | brb |
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| Marius80 | hi |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, sorry for disturbing, just wanted to know if there are any news about the bugfixed version? |
| SlavekB | Marius80: Yes, libept-trinity has been fixed and is already on the mirrors. |
| Marius80 | oh, so it will work now? |
| Marius80 | lemme try out |
| Marius80 | one moment please |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, |
| Marius80 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| Marius80 | kdeprint-trinity : Conflicts: foomatic-db-compressed-ppds but 20120322-0ubuntu1 is installed. |
| Marius80 | kubuntu-default-settings-trinity : Conflicts: kubuntu-default-settings but 1:12.04ubuntu4 is installed. |
| SlavekB | Try: |
| SlavekB | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity foomatic-db |
| Marius80 | http://pastebin.com/BXTs7rnd |
| SlavekB | Have you tried to add to line apt-get also foomatic-db? |
| Marius80 | yes :) |
| SlavekB | Try: |
| SlavekB | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity foomatic-db foomatic-db-compressed-ppds_ |
| SlavekB | (After foomatic-db-compressed-ppds is immediately underscore.) |
| SlavekB | Alternatively, without kubuntu-default-settings-trinity, to avoid conflict with KDE4. |
| SlavekB | Final: |
| SlavekB | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-trinity foomatic-db foomatic-db-compressed-ppds_ |
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| Marius80 | SlavekB, re |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, what is the underscore for? |
| SlavekB | Underscore after the name of the package is its 'purge', instead of installation. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, sorry for questioning you - are you sure we are not messing up the system? |
| SlavekB | This replace foomatic-db-compressed-ppds to foomatic-db and then it should be the installation of Trinity's okay. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, sounds good |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, what is the difference between "foomatic-db-compressed-ppds" and "foomatic-db"? |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately I do not know if anything other does depend on foomatic-db-compressed-ppds. |
| Marius80 | the description is the same |
| SlavekB | Compressed ppds contain printers definitions in compressed format. |
| Marius80 | and the other one? |
| Marius80 | does it conain the same printer definitions without compression? |
| Marius80 | or does the other one not contain printers? |
| SlavekB | Yes, it should be so - printers definitions in plain format. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, sorry, trinity does really have bugs |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=XG1ZAeLT |
| SlavekB | Try: |
| SlavekB | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-trinity foomatic-db foomatic-db-compressed-ppds |
| SlavekB | ...without kubuntu-default-settings-trinity == without conflict with kubuntu-default-settings from KDE4. |
| SlavekB | aH |
| SlavekB | I see - kde4 depends on the compressed-ppds :( |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hUQv2uSF |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, Honest question: Shall I switch to KDE4 and stop bothering you? |
| SlavekB | Or uninstall KDE4 ;) |
| Marius80 | ...and xfce |
| Marius80 | ...and gnome |
| SlavekB | The question is whether the conflict is referred only to "meta-packages" or really the environments? |
| Marius80 | good question |
| Marius80 | I could try to remove kubuntu-desktop |
| Marius80 | got it: SysConfig -> Framework -> Core::Sendmail -> SendmailBcc |
| Marius80 | actually there is only one huge problem: |
| Marius80 | only the admin can change this, but there are 7 agents in the company |
| Marius80 | so whatever they write, it will be in the same folder later on |
| SlavekB | Marius80: At this time it looks pretty irresolvable :( |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, sorry it was the wrong channel |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, I wanted to post that crap in the otrs channel |
| Marius80 | well now, SlavekB, since we are in the same time zone: Good night and sleep well :) |
| Marius80 | bye bye and thank you for your help |
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| SlavekB | good night :) |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1041 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1041 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdesdk/kbugbuster FTBFS |
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| Victrix | Hello, i want to try the Trinity Desktop, i'm using Mandriva 2011 with KDE 4.6.5, if i install TD, i will get both desktops?, my actual desktop kdes and TD? |
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| Victrix | well, gtg, ty |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1306 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1306 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror clears URL bar on CTRL+L |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1307 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1307 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Flickering screen when opening/closing apps |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1308 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1308 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add Pandora Radio to Amarok |
| rzs19 | what about multi touch in TDE? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1309 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1309 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kopete Jabber protocol can't be loaded |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1100 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kopete in R14 crashing before starting |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1310 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1310 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: initial cmake support for tdeutils |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1310 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| Fat-Zer | hi all... |
| Fat-Zer | can somebody help me with git? how can I checkout the v3.5.13-sru branch? |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: Whole source tree? |
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| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: nope, only tdeutils |
| SlavekB | In tdeutils folder type: |
| SlavekB | git checkout v3.5.13-sru && git pull && git submodule update |
| SlavekB | To switch back to master: |
| SlavekB | git checkout master && git pull && git submodule update |
| SlavekB | It is necessary to have the tree "pure" == without modifications. |
| Fat-Zer | one moment... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1311 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1311 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: ksvg fails to build due to it fails to found new fribidi headers |
| Fat-Zer | $ git checkout v3.5.13-sru |
| Fat-Zer | error: pathspec 'v3.5.13-sru' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
| Fat-Zer | git branch -r also doesn't show it in list of remote branches |
| SlavekB | You're in tdeutils folder? |
| Fat-Zer | yes |
| Fat-Zer | git remote show origin: http://bpaste.net/show/57173/ |
| SlavekB | Aha - you've got cloned from git.trinitydesktop.org, not scm.trinitydesktop.org |
| SlavekB | Try: |
| SlavekB | git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tdeutils |
| SlavekB | Or directly v3.5.13-sru branch: |
| SlavekB | git clone -b v3.5.13-sru http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tdeutils |
| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: thanks that works... I suppose repositories on the scm.trinitydesktop.org/ are prefered to be cloned from? |
| SlavekB | scm.trinitydesktop.org is "main server". |
| Fat-Zer | and git.trinitydesktop.org is only a mirror for web browsing? |
| SlavekB | yes |
| SlavekB | But very handy :) |
| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: do you know Tim's plans on the qt? Will be at least the API capability kept it the future? I've asked the same thing on the mail list there was no answer... |
| SlavekB | capability or compability? |
| Fat-Zer | *capability... |
| Fat-Zer | crap... |
| Fat-Zer | *compatibility |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately I do not know if after the current changes due to styles, plans next changes. |
| Fat-Zer | But I belive it's possible to keep old API and only expanding it with new methods... styles module isn't such huge... so I think it still possible to add old methods back... |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 550 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=550 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, kdeartwork/wallpapers desktop-files translations are broken |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 550 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=550 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdeartwork/wallpapers desktop-files translations are broken |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1311 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1311 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: ksvg fails to build due to it fails to found new fribidi headers |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1312 filed by jdiamond@acadiau.ca. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1312 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, <br> in main/tdebase/kcontrol/displayconfig/displayconfigbase.ui breaks compile |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1312 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1312 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, <br> in main/tdebase/kcontrol/displayconfig/displayconfigbase.ui breaks compile |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1313 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1313 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Verify XDG icon naming specification compliance |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1314 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1314 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Building with -DWITH_SLP=ON disables the KDED TDE Internet Daemon |
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| Space_Man | don't build with "-DWITH_SLP=ON" :P |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1315 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1315 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KAlarm erroneously activating alarms |
| * Space_Man removes kalarm from his nuclear missile control centre | |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1316 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1316 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KAlarm "snooze button" |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1317 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1317 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add GUI control box to control behavior of the Alt key |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1317 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1317 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Add GUI control box to control behavior of the Alt key |
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| Frankko | howdy |
| Frankko | how do i disable join/part messages in konversation-trinity? |
| Frankko | np i found it |
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| nexxu | hi all. i recently had an issue with Firefox 16.0.2 on debian and finally figured out how to solve it. i`m writing the issue and solution here in hope it'll get logged and help anyone else running into this issue and maybe get additional info on why it happened |
| nexxu | so.. i ugpraded to firefox 16.0.2 from 15.1 on debian with TDE and it crashed every time it started up. it turned out to be due to the LD_PRELOAD variable |
| nexxu | this was set in /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager -> /opt/trinity/bin/startkde |
| nexxu | so the fix was to basically comment out this part |
| nexxu | #if [ -n $KGTK_PRELOAD ]; then |
| nexxu | # if [ -e /usr/lib/libnspr4.so ]; then |
| nexxu | # KGTK_NSPR_PRELOAD="/usr/lib/libnspr4.so:" |
| nexxu | # fi |
| nexxu | # export LD_PRELOAD=$KGTK_PRELOAD:$KGTK_NSPR_PRELOAD$LD_PRELOAD |
| nexxu | #fi |
| nexxu | not sure if this breaks anything so feel free to point out such things |
| nexxu | everything seems to work ok without it |
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| MutantTurkey | hmmm |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1318 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1318 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail/Kontact crash |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1319 filed by office@klepp.biz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1319 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, libtool: Version mismatch error. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1320 filed by office@klepp.biz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1320 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, /usr/include/tqt3 not included |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1321 filed by alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1321 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, In Debian kdelibs4c2a-trinity requires launchpad-integration |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1321 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1321 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, In Debian kdelibs4c2a-trinity requires launchpad-integration |
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| Tsyesika | trinity doesn't seem to sleep/hibernate when the battery is low or even warn you |
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| Fat-Zer_ | Tsyesika: have you installed some laptop-related stuff? |
| Fat-Zer_ | I don't remember how exectly it's called.... |
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| Tsyesika | hmm probably not :P |
| Tsyesika | i'll search the repo's |
| Fat-Zer_ | may be klaptopdaemon or kpowersave... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1322 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1322 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ksim crashes when configuration dialog launched. |
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| argv_turk | SlavekB: help! I can't install this on wheezy :[ |
| argv_turk | oh wait slavek isn't around :[ |
| argv_turk | wahh! |
| argv_turk | Xu_R: got a nice but a bit old lenovo workstation |
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| master | is it possible to use magnet links in ktorrent-trinity somehow? |
| argv_turk | master: no sorry |
| argv_turk | that feature has not been added mostly due to low demand |
| argv_turk | I use Transmission instead actually |
| argv_turk | though it is a gtk+ program, i find it quite nice |
| master | no gtk aps works any longer on my system though... |
| master | Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported. |
| master | on all gtk apps |
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| master | Also is it possible to install kde-style-polyester into trinity? If so that would be awesome. then i could skip gtk apps all together |
| master | then the trinity apps would look the same as the kde4 apps. |
| master | now i have removed every single gtk3 package on the sytem... |
| master | hope it works |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1323 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1323 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add GUI control to configure menu popup delay |
| argv_turk | gtk3 apps will break if you have kgtk installed |
| argv_turk | i would uninstall kgtk and the gtk theme engine and it should resolve those problems |
| argv_turk | because basically the way kgtk works is by preloading a gtk library. if there are gtk3 symbols it goes borky |
| master | i removed everything related to gtk3 and now it works again |
| master | but it seems to ignore my trinity theme |
| master | it worked before though |
| argv_turk | do you have the gtk theme engine setup? |
| argv_turk | settings -> gtk config or something |
| argv_turk | sorry I can't chck it right now. I actually have to leave. Our mailing list is a good resource if you have unanswered questions. |
| master | now it works.. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1322 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1322 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, ksim crashes when configuration dialog launched. |
| master | i must say i am very grateful that the devs are keeping kde3 alive throught trinity. It is such an great desktop. |
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| master | is it possible for trinity to use gtk2 themes? there is a engine for qt4 to use the gtk themes? |
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| master | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/newsentry.php?entry=2012.03.21 Is that engine available somewhere? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1324 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1324 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add mouse double-click test area in KControl->Peripherals->Mouse->Advanced |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1325 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1325 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: initial cmake support for tdetoys |
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| Marius80 | hi all |
| Marius80 | hi SlavekB :) |
| Marius80 | I got trinity installed |
| Marius80 | beside all the problems, I was able to solve the dependency problem |
| Marius80 | thank you very much for your support, I love trinity :) |
| SlavekB | Marius80: Great. You're welcome. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, aren't you interested in the solution? |
| SlavekB | Yes, I'm interested in solution. |
| Marius80 | 1) aptitude install foomatic-db (this will delete foomatic-db-compressed-ppds but I think thats okay since it seems to be the same) |
| Marius80 | 2) aptitude install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| Marius80 | this will remove "kubuntu-default-settings" and "kubuntu-netbook-default-settings" |
| Marius80 | but I found out, that this is just a meta package |
| Marius80 | removing these meta packages will cause problems when doing upgrades like aptitude dist-upgrade but if I do not plan upgrading KDE4, everything might be okay |
| Marius80 | please be warned, this is just my opinion.... I might be wrong |
| Marius80 | this is how I got trinity to work |
| Marius80 | at the moment, I try to find out how to run the "network manager" and the "device notifier" from KDE4 under trinity |
| Marius80 | adter that, everything should be okay |
| SlavekB | I'm used to select individual packages to install - no meta packages. So I had no problems with concurrent installation Trinity and KDE4 on Debian. |
| Marius80 | I see.... well now, my life is saved for the next 5 years (since it's long term support :) |
| SlavekB | But I understand that ordinary users do not do it by this way :) |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, what is you personal reason why you invest so much work in trinity? |
| Marius80 | little question: you told me that the kde4 network manager could be used on trinity... may I please ask you: "how?" |
| Marius80 | the kde4 guys told me it would be a plasma applet |
| SlavekB | I've been using KDE since version 0-beta4. |
| Marius80 | wow! |
| Marius80 | so you develop it for yourself, not for others?! |
| SlavekB | And KDE4 simply does not continue in the original way. |
| Marius80 | true that.... |
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| Marius80 | how far away from vienna do you live? |
| SlavekB | That's why I started using Trinity - 3.5.12. |
| Marius80 | new the austrian border or far away? |
| Marius80 | so you are now the one initializing the trinity project? |
| SlavekB | In version 3.5.13 were many problems and so I decided to lend a hand. |
| Marius80 | cool :) |
| Marius80 | and then you got stuck to it? |
| Fat-Zer | hi |
| Marius80 | hi Fat-Zer |
| SlavekB | And I discovered that my work on Trinity can be useful. :) |
| SlavekB | Marius80: live in Prague - Czech Republic. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, before you joined the project, the release circle was long as far as I remeber |
| Marius80 | I know that you are from the Czech Republic, so I wondered where exactly you are, since I am in Austria and will be in the Czech Republic very often in the next time :) |
| Fat-Zer | I'm going to start cmake port of kde-i18n... most of it is trivial but i need someone to review/test it... just on first steps for several modules... |
| Fat-Zer | *for several languges |
| SlavekB | In Prague - the capital :) |
| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: I assume you are using czech localization? |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, I will give you a notice before I come to Prague ;) |
| Marius80 | I think I should invite you to a nice meal one day |
| Fat-Zer | so can you test it... it will be ready in several hours... |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: Yes, I am interested in the translation. |
| SlavekB | Marius80: Yes, the original release 3.5.13 has been in a long time and with many errors. |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: I am interested in your cmake ports - good work. |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: tdetoys I have not had time to test it. |
| Fat-Zer | np... it was posted an hour ago... |
| Fat-Zer | cs stands for for czech, isn't it? |
| Marius80 | would it help if I make german translations? |
| SlavekB | Yes, cs is for my czech translation :) |
| Fat-Zer | translations are a quite big sort issues... |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: You tested my cmake patches for tdeartwork and tdedevelop? |
| Fat-Zer | sorry haven't seen them |
| SlavekB | I want to devote some time to coordinate and work in the background on the translations. |
| Fat-Zer | and tdedevelop is not my project... |
| SlavekB | I just have not found it yet enough time. |
| SlavekB | tdeartwork and tdevelop be partly prepared cmake ports. |
| Fat-Zer | tdearttwork? |
| SlavekB | That's why I worked on their completion. |
| Fat-Zer | it should be full-features... |
| Fat-Zer | what is missing there? |
| SlavekB | See bug 1262 - attachment 967. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1262 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: several FTBFS building TDE 3.5.13.1 |
| tbottu | 03Attachment http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/attachment.cgi?id=967&action=edit patch, kdeartwork: fix various cmake and automake issues, bp900.diff |
| Fat-Zer | krootbacking was moved to tdebase |
| SlavekB | Look at the patch properly ;) |
| SlavekB | Krootbacking in tdeartwork is 'hack' for xscreensaver-getimage. |
| SlavekB | I compare cmake and automake results and deal with differences. |
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| SlavekB | Marius80: I will definitely want to use your help with translations into German. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, little question: You told me, that the KDE4 network manager could be used on trinity since trinity does not have it's own at the moment.... . how can I do that, please? The KDE4 channel told me, that it would be a plasma widget and would not work on trinity... I was also not able to get it to work |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, great, so tell me where to start, I will translate it!! |
| Marius80 | I might also be able to offer some other languages, but let's start with german first |
| Fat-Zer | ghm... it isn't on my year-old github fork... it seems have been pushed to git after my cmake patches... |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, and we could make a new website.... a good-looking one |
| SlavekB | The problem is that I need to first update all files with the translations to the current version. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, take your time, I won't get lost |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: Just because I analyze differences automake and cmake builds for packages for which the Debian still uses automake. |
| SlavekB | Tim in this case carried out changes only into automake and cmake files then obsolete. |
| Fat-Zer | oh... |
| Fat-Zer | I see... |
| SlavekB | Therefore, I want to update cmake ports to allow for these debian packages to switch from automake to cmake. |
| SlavekB | Much incomplete is cmake port for tdemultimedia. |
| Fat-Zer | and what about tdenetwork? |
| SlavekB | Marius80: Can you even a little Czech? ;) My English is not good. I can read manuals and technical documents. But talking is worse. |
| SlavekB | tdenetwork I have already repaired. |
| SlavekB | See attachment 926. |
| tbottu | 03Attachment http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/attachment.cgi?id=926&action=edit patch, kdenetworks: fix various cmake problems, kdenetwork-cmake.diff |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, I am very sorry, but a very nice female friend of mine is czech so it might work out |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, but I need to tell you that your english (at least the written one) seems to be very good |
| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: I haven't build it yet, but it's on my TODO list... was the fix pushed before the 3.5.13.1 release? |
| SlavekB | No, is after 3.5.13.1 release. |
| SlavekB | But is also pushed into v3.5.13-sru branch - for upcoming 3.5.13.2. |
| Fat-Zer | ok... greate... |
| Fat-Zer | anyway I suppose there will be a numerouse of separate-build-specific issues... |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, sorry for bothering you, but could you please reply to my network manager question?! |
| SlavekB | Likewise tdesdk - see attachment 958 |
| tbottu | 03Attachment http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/attachment.cgi?id=958&action=edit patch, kdesdk: fix various cmake issues, bp901.diff |
| SlavekB | Marius80: I saw that someone instead of network manager was used with success wicd. |
| Marius80 | wicd might work, I hoped for the widget to work |
| Marius80 | k, will be back soon |
| Marius80 | need to restart into trinity |
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| Fat-Zer | wicd is not a full-feature replacement for NM... it can handle wi-fi OR cable connections, but not at the same time... |
| SlavekB | The older version of network-manager was fine with me that he was holding just one connection. |
| SlavekB | When the cable is connected, avoid engaging in wifi. |
| SlavekB | When cable not connected, looking for wifi. |
| SlavekB | Now connects to the same network, both cable and wifi => silly. |
| Fat-Zer | but sometimes it is useful to get both or even severel connections of one type... e.g. to different networks |
| SlavekB | For this reason, it is necessary for wifi disable automatic connection, but this is again not practical. |
| SlavekB | Yes, it is true that both variants are useful - as holding one connection (cabel | | wifi), and also allowing more connections (cabel && wifi). |
| Fat-Zer | and if it'so NM is an only alternative... also it supports some specific hardware/connection types like 3g modems, vpn rtc |
| Fat-Zer | *etc |
| SlavekB | With openvpn in knetworkmanager8 I have problem. |
| SlavekB | I cannot set it for ca file + certificate + key. |
| SlavekB | Whether I have a key with the password or without it. |
| SlavekB | However, it was I did not want to deal with - overlooking the R14 and new solution out there :) |
| Fat-Zer | seems r14 introduces lots of changes and lots of bugs... I'm anabled even to start it properly: kwin crashes for some reason.... |
| Fat-Zer | *I can't |
| SlavekB | I currently not test R14 at all - only test to build packages before commit patches :) |
| SlavekB | Besides, I have enough work on v3.5.13-sru branch. |
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| Marius80 | re |
| Marius80 | SlavekB? |
| SlavekB | Marius80: I was slowly going to go to sleep ;) |
| Marius80 | just one minute please |
| Marius80 | I've got a very small bundle of questions, and would appreciate if you could answer some of them, please |
| Marius80 | 1) name of the ALT+F2 (krunner) program of trinity desktop |
| Marius80 | 2) name of the trinity konsole |
| Marius80 | 3) name of the trinity kicker |
| Marius80 | and 1 information for you: wicd does not work, trinity has no chance to go online, we'll need a real network manager |
| SlavekB | I do not understand those questions. |
| Fat-Zer | me too... |
| SlavekB | You mean kdesktop? |
| SlavekB | kicker, konsole... all located in /opt/trinity/bin? |
| Marius80 | actually the thing is this: |
| Marius80 | trinity has no network manager at this moment, so I will need to wait until the R14 release to use it |
| Marius80 | since I cannot come online |
| Marius80 | so I wanted to use the best of kde3 in kde4 |
| Marius80 | I want to replace KDE4's "krunner" dialog by the krunner of kde3 (trinity desktop) |
| SlavekB | wow |
| Marius80 | same goes for the panel (called "kicker") and the konsole |
| Marius80 | lol |
| Marius80 | so I need to know the names |
| Marius80 | in order to be able to start them :) |
| Fat-Zer | Marius80: have you tried thegnome's nm-applet? |
| Marius80 | I know, I'm bad *g* |
| Marius80 | Fat-Zer, there is no nm-applet in the repositories |
| Marius80 | sorry, I thought it would be a short question.... SlavekB, I do not want to keep you away from bed |
| Fat-Zer | о_О |
| Marius80 | we can talk another day |
| Marius80 | if you go to bed, it might be better :) |
| SlavekB | I do not know whether is easier to try to network-manager applet from KDE4 in Trinity |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, well, it's a plasma widget |
| Marius80 | it won't work |
| Fat-Zer | off cause name of the package in your repository can differ... |
| SlavekB | I saw in KDE4 applet for the panel and into the tray. It is in both cases plasma applet? |
| Fat-Zer | AFAIR gnome applet is a tray aplication not an applet |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, not sure about this, but afaik thats all plasma stuff |
| Marius80 | Fat-Zer, the package "network-manager-gnome" is already installed |
| Marius80 | I might need to start gnome to find out it's name to start wirh |
| Marius80 | *with |
| Fat-Zer | take a nap... i'll build the network manager... |
| Marius80 | Fat-Zer, lol, linux rules |
| Marius80 | there is no other operating system, solutions can be found so easy |
| Marius80 | Fat-Zer, I will be back soon, I try to start gnome for a moment |
| Marius80 | one moment please |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, good night by the way :) |
| Marius80 | thank you! |
| Marius80 | sleep fine |
| Marius80 | will be back soon |
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| SlavekB | :) |
| Fat-Zer | nm-applet works but icon in tray doesn't dosplay properly... so it's tricky to click on it... |
| Fat-Zer | *isn't displayed |
| Fat-Zer | also I haven't installed kgtk so it looks crappy... |
| Fat-Zer | http://itmages.ru/image/view/762865/0141737a |
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| Marius80 | re |
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| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: can you test if --with-arts flags make any different in kde-i18n? |
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| Fat-Zer | seems --with-arts or --without-arts makes no difference... |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: I looked tde-i18n. As I expected, the option with-arts is useless. |
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| rzs19 | does TDE 3.5.13.1 work with wheezy? |
| rzs19 | or how usable is TDE R14? |
| SlavekB | 3.5.13.x currently not prepared for Wheezy. However, you can use Squeeze version - needs only a few packages from Debian Squeeze. Tested and works. |
| rzs19 | and whats mit R14? |
| SlavekB | It is a development version. So if you do not mind some problems... |
| rzs19 | but are there packages for wheezy? |
| SlavekB | For R14 yes - in nightly-builds. |
| rzs19 | and why not for 3.5.13.1, or is R14 so close to release? |
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| SlavekB | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3993 ;) |
| rzs19 | wheezy version of 3.5.13.1 would be nice. |
| rzs19 | well, today i read about skype and the only have a version for wheezy(maybe i'm blind?) |
| rzs19 | don't know how close wheezy is? |
| SlavekB | It is true that Wheezy is already at an advanced state and not have to worry about any major changes. |
| rzs19 | maybe a stupid idea to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, but i have the hope hibernate will better work. |
| SlavekB | I suppose that Wheezy could be finished in the spring. |
| SlavekB | Have you tried kernel + xorg from backports? |
| rzs19 | yep |
| SlavekB | It did not help? |
| rzs19 | no |
| rzs19 | the last time i tried make-kpkg is also doenst work with newer versione of kernel 3.6.6 |
| SlavekB | It is likely that Wheezy has the same kernel as is in the backports => also not help. |
| rzs19 | but maybe make-kpkg works :P |
| rzs19 | and why i get on a reboot "press Control-D" |
| rzs19 | or how was it called? |
| rzs19 | "enter root password or press Control-D" |
| rzs19 | something like this |
| SlavekB | Anyway, a few days ago came to backports update for kernel package. |
| rzs19 | on every computer i installed 6.0.6, strange. |
| SlavekB | Strange - I also have 6.0.6 and these problems have not noticed. |
| rzs19 | i have 3 laptops with 6.0.6 and i got on all the same behavior. |
| rzs19 | just squeeze, with backports, multimedia and tde repos, nothing else. |
| rzs19 | after upgrade to 6.0.6, or plain install, i got this problem. |
| SlavekB | I noticed that for someone helped turn off the SAK. |
| rzs19 | i want to understand excactly what is running wrong :) |
| rzs19 | and another thing. i want to help with klaptop-daemon things. it uses the legacy api of acpi, or? |
| SlavekB | Then I saw some reference to the same behavior due to dbus. |
| rzs19 | i'm a little bit lost, where i should begin. |
| SlavekB | About klaptop-daemon: I do not know - I personally use kpowersave. |
| rzs19 | kpowersave, well... sometimes it runs "amok" |
| rzs19 | and eats up 100% cpu. |
| rzs19 | it works and works and works and then ... bam! ... 100% cpu |
| rzs19 | thats realy bad wehn running an battery. |
| rzs19 | okay i have three batterys, buts thats no good solution :P |
| SlavekB | This I have never observed. It happened to me that kpowersave not responded, but it's waiting for something and the CPU was at rest. |
| rzs19 | if you don't believe it, i could make a screenshot ;) |
| rzs19 | damn the toilette calls my name, uno momento... |
| SlavekB | I believe - but I cannot for myself to test. |
| rzs19 | Puh... That took some doing. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1326 filed by sgc@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1326 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Right-click to print option in Kpdf |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1323 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1323 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Add GUI control to configure menu popup delay |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1327 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1327 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Control for hiding underlined characters in menu bar does not work |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1325 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1325 enhancement, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: initial cmake support for tdetoys |
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| Borg^Queen | hello people |
| SlavekB | welcome queen :) |
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| Borg^Queen | Hi people where can I find a iso of pclos with trinity? |
| Borg^Queen | I've been searching one out but haven't found it. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1328 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1328 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMail: Sender's informational time box is incorrect and misfunctions |
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| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1329 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1329 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tde-i18n cmake support |
| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: hi. finally done with first tde-i18n-cmake patch. can you test it? |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: I just look at it. :) |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: But I will test tomorrow. |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: I'm about to go to sleep... |
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| Fat-Zer | ok... |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: By the way, you looked at my additional patch for tdetoys? |
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| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: yes, I haven't tested it yet but it looks reasonable... |
| SlavekB | gn |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1325 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1325 enhancement, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: initial cmake support for tdetoys |
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| P-chan | HI guys! DO you guys will port to qt4 like mate developers |
| P-chan | well mate developers will port to gtk 3 |
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| javdie | hello |
| javdie | I am using trinity in debian |
| javdie | I want to change languaje to spanish, but i cant find the pakage, what can I do? |
| SlavekB | Try: aptitude install kde-i18n-es-trinity |
| javdie | yes, works. thanks you very much |
| javdie | one last question, do you know how works kdesudo in trinity? |
| SlavekB | You need to add users to the group 'sudo' or set rules to /etc/sudoers.d/ |
| SlavekB | ...or uninstall kdesudo and then will be used kdesu. |
| javdie | i don't know why kdese of trinity dont work in my computer, now I am using gksu |
| javdie | *kdesu |
| SlavekB | When installed kdesudo, this replace kdesu. If you not want to use kdesudo, you need to uninstall kdesudo. |
| SlavekB | After uninstall kdesudo will return kdesu functionality. |
| javdie | ohh, it was my problem. it wasn't installed |
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| Skrzyp | Hi. |
| Skrzyp | How can I install TDE 3.5.13.1 in Debian Sid? |
| Skrzyp | (or Wheezy...?) |
| Space_Man | Skrzyp: wait for SlavekB to return |
| Space_Man | he is our debian expert |
| Space_Man | Skrzyp: a recent conversation http://paste.debian.net/hidden/35793813/ |
| Space_Man | it may help |
| Skrzyp | Space_Man: so, i'll try fedora :) |
| Skrzyp | but I can't found solution how to install base fedora for Trinity |
| Skrzyp | without X and DE, of course |
| SlavekB | Skrzyp: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3991 http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3993 |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1324 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1324 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Add mouse double-click test area in KControl->Peripherals->Mouse->Advanced |
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| calamari | I'm curious whether hibernation is a function of linux or whether trinity has anything to do with it too. I tried it for the first time today and it seemed like it was going to work but then it aborted and powered everything up again. |
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| Skrzyp | hmmm... |
| Skrzyp | SlavekB: is there any repo with TDE Nightly Builds for Quantal? |
| Skrzyp | I see this website with packgages' status, but I can't find repository with it |
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| SlavekB | Skrzyp: For Quantal is available also stable branch - v3.5.13.x - but not yet officially. |
| Skrzyp | SlavekB: meh, i just downgraded to Precise :D |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?field.series_filter=quantal&start=0&batch=150 |
| Skrzyp | bu i may upgrade later, if this possible |
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| Fat-Zer_ | does somebody knows the tdepim package's cmake state? |
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| tbottu | 10office@klepp.biz changed the Status on bug 1319 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1319 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, libtool: Version mismatch error. |
| tbottu | 10office@klepp.biz changed the Status on bug 1320 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1320 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, /usr/include/tqt3 not included |
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| heday | Hi all! Is there a port of trinity for raspberry pi? if not, do you think it would be a good idea to start one? |
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| Fat-Zer | heday: AFAIK trinity wasn't compiled for ane hardware/software platform except x86/amd64 linux since fork... |
| Fat-Zer | IMO the compilation for some other arch would be a great test for our codebase quality/cmake system |
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| Fat-Zer | but on the other hand it would reveal a lot of bugs... so if you start one you are supposed to write bug reports/fix them etc. |
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| heday | Fat-Zer: I never did such thing, so I would also be learning the process (though I am programmer and would like to contribute to the comunity) |
| heday | where can I find information on how to proceed? I would like to try it |
| Fat-Zer | I'm not familiar with cross-compilation or arm compilation details... have you already compiled something for it? |
| Fat-Zer | and do you already got running any linux distro on the board? |
| Fat-Zer | for general build instructions you can start with: http://trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/HowToBuild |
| heday | Fat-Zer: yes, I did some cross-compilling some time ago |
| heday | Fat-Zer: yes, I have two boards running linux (arm arch and raspbian) |
| heday | thanks a bunch :) I will have a go and will say something in a couple of weeks time |
| Fat-Zer | you are welcome... |
| Fat-Zer | I'm intrested in cross compile, but haven't got any hardware to try... |
| heday | It is quite interesting (tough sometimes it is a bit annoying)... the raspberry pies are so cheap that it is woth trying (and fun too) |
| Fat-Zer | if I lived in england I'd bye one for 30$ (right?)... but here on the one hand it's 60$ and on the other it's a pain-in-ass to order it... I've taken a look on chinese clones... They are quite more expencive as well as more powerful... |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 4 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, KDE bluetooth daemon and utilites not found adapter. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 4 from RESOLVED WONTFIX to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, KDE bluetooth daemon and utilites not found adapter. |
| heday | Fat-Zer: well, there is also the Via's APC (Android based PC), USD$49.00 and I think it is already available in USA |
| heday | Fat-Zer: yes, it is about 30$ |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: Note on the morning question, for tdepim is cmake build already used on Debian as default. So "should be" okay. |
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| heday | brb |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 272 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=272 enhancement, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Provide a tool similar to the GTK Startup Manager |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 271 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=271 needs packaging, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, QGrubEditor: add qgrubeditor to the Trinity applications |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 676 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=676 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Make the default window placement Center rather than Smart |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 96 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=96 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, KDE takes forever to acknowledge an audio CD |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 95 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=95 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, K3B fails to eject after burning a DVD |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1288 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1288 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdesktop_lock crashes or hangs |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 269 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=269 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Forward slash allowed in file name |
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| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: hi, about i18n... |
| Fat-Zer | is there everything ok? |
| Fat-Zer | if it's so I'm starting to port other translations... I'm going to port 5 at once... |
| SlavekB | As I said: Now I get the same results for automake and cmake. It looks good. :) |
| Fat-Zer | have you compiled with automake after patching? |
| Fat-Zer | it also installs CMakeLists.txt files |
| SlavekB | No, automake before patch, cmake after patch. |
| SlavekB | Yes, I know. This occurs also in other packages. |
| Fat-Zer | so it's considered ok? |
| SlavekB | At this time I do not know how to fix it. |
| SlavekB | automake is it hard to read :) |
| Fat-Zer | yeah... I hope we will eventualy drop it.... |
| SlavekB | Now it does not bother. |
| Fat-Zer | Ok... I'll finish tdenetwork packaging and then start the i18n cmake... |
| SlavekB | tdenetwork? |
| SlavekB | That should be done. |
| SlavekB | I already fixed differences automake × cmake. |
| Fat-Zer | I'm doing gentoo packaging... |
| Fat-Zer | I ment it |
| SlavekB | Ah - I see - comments to cmake. |
| Fat-Zer | comment just required for me to be into which WITH's are used by witch modules... |
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| Fat-Zer | SlavekB, forgot to ask: why you've removed the slash from the patch? I understand that in that case it makes no difference, but it's make clear that the link will be created in the subdir? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1330 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1330 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue: tdenetwork, multiple cmake issues. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1331 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1331 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Debian packages need updated dependencies and recomends |
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| heday | I am trying com compile tqt3 and i am having a problem with libexecdir (probably my fault), but i don't know how to solve it: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -localstatedir=/var |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 878 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=878 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: applications/twin-style-crystal - confirm/update git source to 1.0.7 |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1262 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1262 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEW, Build issue: several FTBFS building TDE 3.5.13.1 |
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| heday | Hi all |
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| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: do you have a git version near you? can you test FTBFS of krdc? |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: cmake build? |
| Fat-Zer_ | yes |
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| Fat-Zer_ | here is my build log: http://bpaste.net/show/59571/ |
| Fat-Zer_ | the error in generated header |
| Fat-Zer_ | there should be qDebug not Debug. |
| Fat-Zer_ | so it's really strange... |
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| SlavekB | I see that Tim has successfully build in nightly builds version with GIT hash 058a95c5. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1332 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1332 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok last.fm support needs updated |
| SlavekB | Are you using Qt3 or TQt3? |
| Fat-Zer_ | hmm... how to determin? |
| SlavekB | Is cloned from http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/qt3 or http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tqt3 |
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| Fat-Zer_ | qt |
| SlavekB | And that's probably core of the problem. |
| SlavekB | Tim now builds exclusively with tqt3. |
| SlavekB | And building with qt3 is rarely tested. |
| Fat-Zer_ | ok... I'm complitly confused now... |
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| Fat-Zer_ | wtf is tqt and what are it's differences to qt? is there any information on the wiki or somewhere else? |
| SlavekB | Note: v3.5.13-sru branch is builded with Qt3. |
| SlavekB | TQt3 is Qt3 with builtin tqt interface. |
| SlavekB | When you build with Qt3, then tqt interface during build do rename tqt => qt. |
| SlavekB | When you build with TQt3, then tqt interface during build do not rename tqt => qt - uses builtin tqt interface in TQt3. |
| Fat-Zer_ | holy crap! |
| Fat-Zer_ | I've thought for several minutes how to express this in different words... |
| Fat-Zer_ | And there is no anounecement nor in the wiki nor in the official news... |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/UnderstandingTheTQTInterface |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: In any case, this FTBFS you can normally report as bug - it should be fixed. |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: so you can't reproduce it with tqt but haven't tesed it with normal qt. Have I understoond you correct? |
| Fat-Zer_ | or you reproduced it with qt? |
| SlavekB | With tqt seems to be ok. With qt I not tried it (only on v3.5.13-sru branch). |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: A slash in the patch I removed because apparently failed in its purpose. I was hoping that slash can provide folder creation, but doing so was to tde_install_empty_directory. |
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| Frankko_ | quick question: Is that theme engine showed in some pictures on the website available in any repo? (The one that can make qt4 apps looks like TDE apps) |
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| SlavekB | Frankko: Packages for development version - R14 nightly-builds for Debian and Ubuntu have yet to be build. |
| Frankko | oh ok |
| Frankko | is there an rss feed or something i can use to find when packages are added to the debian builds? |
| SlavekB | You can use 'Nightly Builds' on Trinity home page. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1330 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1330 major, P1, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: tdenetwork, multiple cmake issues. |
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| heday | I am trying to compile tqt3, but it is complaining about '/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -localstatedir=/var' though i do have a /var directory |
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| Frankko | Good morning |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1333 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1333 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue: krdc FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1091 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1091 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kmail needs option to not open first email in folder |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1334 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1334 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KControl Monitor & Display module crash |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Component on bug 1105 from tdenetwork to other (any). |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1105 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Internet-capable apps need better network handling |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1330 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1330 major, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: tdenetwork, multiple cmake issues. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1335 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1335 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue:DBUILD_CRASHTEST should be renamed to WITH_CRASHTEST |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1335 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1091 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1091 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail needs option to not open first email in folder |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1336 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1336 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kickoff menu freezes Kicker panel |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1329 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1329 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tde-i18n cmake support |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1337 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1337 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tde-i18n: whatiskde.docbook files in multiple subdirectories is removed instead of renamed |
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| master | How do i make qt4 apps lok the same as my trinity-qt3 apps? |
| master | not that i use many qt4 apps but the ones i have looks rather unpleasant |
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| master | simplest would be for me if there was either plyester or oxygen theme for trinity. as those allready exist in my repo for the other two toolkits i use. |
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| master | or a keramik theme for qt4 apps |
| master | or the possibily to use gtk3 themes in trinity |
| master | any sollution really =P |
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| Fat-Zer_ | master: AFAIK you should use qt4-tqt-theme-engine |
| Fat-Zer_ | now it's avaliable for git version only |
| master | why is it not in repos? |
| Fat-Zer_ | dunno... |
| master | are there build instructions? |
| Fat-Zer_ | here is git repo: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/qt4-tqt-theme-engine/tree/ |
| Fat-Zer_ | build process should be the same as for any qt4 project |
| Fat-Zer_ | I haven't build it yet myself... |
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| master | i added the nightly buids repo to the sources.list and it is available from there. |
| master | hope it will not break the rest of my system too badly =) |
| master | sadly the nightly repo is slow as dirt 22kbÖ/s |
| master | kb* |
| Space_Man | it's always slow |
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| master | Oh now it works |
| master | how lovely |
| master | i got the keramik qt3 theme in gtk2, gtk3 and qt4 |
| master | gorgeous |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1338 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1338 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror download "list" |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1339 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1339 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror's "Find" enhancement |
| john117 | Heyho. I want to compile amarok-trinity, so that I can apply some patches to (slightly) increase the label support (used this for a while with the "old" amarok1.4 in kde3.5) but can't seem to get mysql-support compiled in. I'm not quite used to cmake and `cmake -LAH` won't show any sql-related options. Any suggestions? (Amarok compiles just fine, but only with sqlite-support.) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1340 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1340 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror "Private Browsing" mode |
| john117 | Or should I instead file a bug/enhancement with the patched files as attachement and hope that they will be approved soon? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1341 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1341 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror default keyboard shortcut to switch tabs |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1342 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1342 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tde-i18n need tdelibs to provide some additional doc entities |
| Fat-Zer_ | john117: sql-related options seems not have been ported to cmake yet |
| Fat-Zer_ | you can still use automake to build amarok... |
| Fat-Zer_ | also IMO patches will be appreciated. |
| john117 | Fat-Zer: Uh, sorry, I'm not quite used to stuff like this. If I run automake, then autoconf and use ./configure later, I end up with "config.status: error: cannot find input file: `Makefile.in'" :/ |
| Fat-Zer_ | http://trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/HowToBuild |
| Fat-Zer_ | here are some basic instructions. |
| Fat-Zer_ | check the chapter 3 |
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| john117 | Oooh, thank you so much :) |
| Fat-Zer_ | np |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1342 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1342 enhancement, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, tde-i18n need tdelibs to provide some additional doc entities |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1343 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1343 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tde-i18n: A couple more patches whitch renames ald references to tde's |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1343 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1097 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1097 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, libjingle Video Chat support for Jabber/XMPP |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1329 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1329 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tde-i18n cmake support |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1342 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1342 enhancement, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, tde-i18n need tdelibs to provide some additional doc entities |
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| Borg^Queen | hello |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1343 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1343 enhancement, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, tde-i18n: A couple more patches whitch renames kde3 docbook references to tde's |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1337 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1337 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tde-i18n: whatiskde.docbook files in multiple subdirectories is removed instead of renamed |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1097 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1097 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, libjingle Video Chat support for Jabber/XMPP |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1097 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1040 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1040 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdenetwork and amarok FTBFS with GIT commit 477d071b |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1097 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1097 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, libjingle Video Chat support for Jabber/XMPP |
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| shdw_work | can anyone help with upgrading an old system? |
| shdw_work | I have karmic on this laptop, trying to bump it to lucid |
| shdw_work | I already have trinity installed on it, but when I do-release-upgrade, I get the following... |
| shdw_work | The package 'kubuntu-desktop-kde3' is marked for removal but it is in |
| shdw_work | the removal blacklist. |
| shdw_work | seems like it was a common problem, but I haven't been able to find a solution |
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| heday | Hi all! do i need qt3 in order to compile tqt3? |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1097 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1097 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, libjingle Video Chat support for Jabber/XMPP |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1097 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1097 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, libjingle Video Chat support for Jabber/XMPP |
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| heday | Hey Fat-Zer: I managed to compile qt3 and tqt3 in the raspberry pi. though didn't managed to do a cross-compilling yet. there are some changes in the code and makefile, but so far seems good |
| Fat-Zer | heday: great news =) |
| heday | :) its being so slow because I am compiling the in pi |
| heday | but later i may ask you guys how to upload the changes (maybe via patches), don't know. don't have experience with this |
| Fat-Zer | why not under qemu? |
| heday | don't have experience with qemu |
| Fat-Zer | just fill a bug to bugzilla... |
| heday | with the patch? |
| heday | okay |
| SlavekB | heday: What are the changes? Build-farm already built complete TDE for armel and Tim have successfully tested a result of the 'pi'. |
| heday | SlavekB: for the tqt3, in raspbian, i need to include the path for a x11 xfont in one of the Makefiles (can check that for you when I get home), in Archlinux (finishing compiling now), i had to #include <X11/XKBib.h> into kernel/qapplication_x11.cpp because it XdbKeycodeToKeysym wasn't declared |
| heday | SlavekB: can i try the binaries? |
| SlavekB | heday: There are 3.5.13.1 for Squeeze (official 3.5.13.x apt sources) or R14 for Squeeze and Wheezy (nightly-builds apt sources). |
| heday | SlavekB: if i am not mistaken, squeeze and wheezy are based on soft float while rasbpiam is based on hard float, so probably it will not run, but a compilation should be trivial |
| SlavekB | heday: I do not know. Just know that Tim tested the R14 on 'pi' with Squeeze and Wheezy. |
| heday | okay, i can try them out. how do i request it or get the sources to compile with hard fload (i can use my pi) |
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| master | any activity today? |
| Fat-Zer | master: in what activity are you intrested? |
| master | I find the project lacking nothing at the moment. But i would like to know if there is a RSS news feed for latest news and releases? |
| master | Also i was wondering if there is any plans to update ktorrent and akregator so that ktorrent can use magnet links and if akregator would be able to handle googlereader in the future? |
| Fat-Zer | about RSS: AFAIK no, but it would be nice to have such... |
| master | last time i tried those wo apps in their tde version they did not. I have the kde4 versions installed now and they work fine. So it is not a major problem. Especially now that the qt4 engine theme for tde is in the repo they even look the same =D |
| SlavekB | master: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/rss.php |
| master | SlavekB: thankyou |
| Fat-Zer | oh...sorry... |
| master | how would i know if the gtk3 theme ngine works? i seem to hae no clue how to change the gtk3 emgine at all. |
| master | gtk3 does not seem to use .gtkrc-2.0 stype configuration |
| master | not that i use any gtk3 apps, but it would be fun to se if it works =D |
| Fat-Zer | don't know exactly, but it's reasonable to suppose it uses .gtkrc-3.0 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1344 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1344 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tde-i18n: some conflicts in documentation. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1345 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1345 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tde-i18n: please clear the repository. |
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| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: IMO BUG 1294 can be «resolved invalid» |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1294 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: Mix from options -O2, -O3, Os, -g |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: I understand correctly that Roman had a mistake on his machine? |
| Fat-Zer | as I've understood, yes. also cause he haven't showed up for a while it's supposed he solved it... |
| SlavekB | Ok. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1294 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1294 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Build issue: Mix from options -O2, -O3, Os, -g |
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| master | Fat-Zer: There is no .gtkrc-3.0 file... oh well |
| Fat-Zer | master: the third link in google; https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/2011-March/msg00108.html |
| Fat-Zer | *the second |
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| master | hmm my settings look allright |
| master | anyone know of a gtk3 app off the top of their head? |
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| master | tried brasero... it did nit work.. but as i said i do not use gtk3 apps so it is not a big deal =) |
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| MutantTurkey | R14 works awesome with Wheezy :-) |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: it's really fantastic |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Super, so it is not needed to prepare 3.5.13.x for Wheezy ;) |
| MutantTurkey | Hehe maybe not! |
| MutantTurkey | I mean this is really fantastic |
| MutantTurkey | How is 3.5.13.2 going? |
| MutantTurkey | are you still updating it? |
| SlavekB | Yes, I have a number of patches and I'm going to start preparing updated packages into my ppa soon. |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 547 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=547 needs packaging, P5, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, gtk-qt-engine does not support GTK3 |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: great - I still depend on it on my laptop |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1345 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1345 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tde-i18n: please clear the repository. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1346 filed by f_ii@email.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1346 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Logging to TDE takes more than 10 seconds. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1347 filed by f_ii@email.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1347 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Mouse pointer not visible when TDE session gets locked. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1348 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1348 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, clock mismatch |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| MutantTurkey | gn |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1349 filed by mrmazda@earthlink.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1349 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, make keyboard delay easier to make match any common BIOS setting (a multiple of 50) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1350 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1350 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: there are a lot of unnecessary headers installed |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1351 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1351 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kioslaves with hal FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1351 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | in my archlinux... |
| sacarde | what do you sugget to install...: |
| sacarde | 3.5.13-sru or 14.0.0 ? |
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| SlavekB | sacarde: 14.x.x is in this time development version, 3.5.13-sru is stable |
| sacarde | ah.. ok |
| SlavekB | 14.0.0 is to be finished in spring (hopefully) |
| sacarde | kmail is in tdebase ? |
| SlavekB | tdepim |
| sacarde | ah |
| sacarde | I dont like akonadi/kmail4 |
| sacarde | I will migrate from kmail-kdemod3 ----> kmail/tde |
| sacarde | will I found some problems? |
| SlavekB | It may be helpful to use migratekde3 script - but get current version from GIT. |
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| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdebase/tree/migratekde3 |
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| MutantTurkey | tqt3 is required not right? |
| sacarde | then... I have to install: tde-qt3 + tde-libs + tde-core + tde-pim |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: I presume that's you? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: o__o I don't remember friending you at all... |
| MutantTurkey | ... |
| MutantTurkey | wat |
| MutantTurkey | well most certainly you did! heh |
| MutantTurkey | facebook auto import of email contacts/ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| Xu_R | Apparently so. |
| Xu_R | Maybe. o_o |
| MutantTurkey | lol! |
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| cloudrf | hey all |
| cloudrf | is this an alive project? |
| MutantTurkey | yes! |
| MutantTurkey | very much so :) |
| MutantTurkey | though I feel dead after last night and with this hangover... |
| cloudrf | ! so happy |
| tbottu | cloudrf: Error: "so" is not a valid command. |
| cloudrf | so happy 3.5 is alive |
| MutantTurkey | great |
| MutantTurkey | you should really give it a try. |
| MutantTurkey | What distro are you using |
| cloudrf | right now im using fedora |
| cloudrf | later i will be using ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | when is later? |
| MutantTurkey | if you are looking to go to TDE i recommend debian |
| cloudrf | when i get home |
| MutantTurkey | do debian. |
| cloudrf | sounds good to me |
| MutantTurkey | I have been using ubuntu since 7.10 and it's just getting more and more crappy for me. I just got a new used computer, with trinity it runs great! |
| cloudrf | i build computers for a living |
| cloudrf | no problems there |
| MutantTurkey | I am using wheezy, which is the beta branch of debian, with trinity's nightly builds |
| MutantTurkey | cloudrf: well then I just got a used ThinkCentre :) |
| cloudrf | i got a triple core amd with a 2 tb sandbox |
| MutantTurkey | cloudrf: we also have a users mailing list, which is good for questions and to receive information and annoucements |
| cloudrf | haha |
| cloudrf | oh btw i got 16 gigs of ram |
| MutantTurkey | cloudrf: excellent. I am sporting an i5 and a measly 500gb |
| cloudrf | i got a sale on memory |
| MutantTurkey | cloudrf: nice! yeah I went with the 4gb because I am cheap but I just ordered more because some of the procesing I am doing has some real memory issues and I hate to churn my swap |
| cloudrf | right on |
| cloudrf | my swap dont even come on |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: this TDE remaster multi-part download is patheticly slow. I wish he would have just uploaded it to my ftp serer |
| MutantTurkey | cloudrf: I usually don't even have it activated. |
| MutantTurkey | cloudrf: but we are doing image processing on 18,000 samples at once and it gets messy lol |
| cloudrf | i am looking for a group to support my windows killing endevour |
| MutantTurkey | Trinity... |
| MutantTurkey | do you work in a windows based office or something |
| cloudrf | no |
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| cloudrf | linux based office |
| MutantTurkey | oh awesome |
| MutantTurkey | at my work it is dominated by macs :[ |
| MutantTurkey | with linux servers though |
| cloudrf | eww |
| cloudrf | color wheel of doom |
| cloudrf | i am a computer repairman |
| cloudrf | system builder |
| MutantTurkey | yeah, but I don't complain because I have a mac pro with 8 cores |
| MutantTurkey | cloudrf: cool. Are you from the US or what? |
| cloudrf | yup |
| MutantTurkey | awesome |
| cloudrf | i have 3 distributors |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: so I am taking a race & poverty required elective at Temple, and the prof is talking about discrimination, and there is a reading on blackboard |
| cloudrf | oh, i also have 5 hardware partners |
| MutantTurkey | so I shout "Why isn't it called white board!" |
| MutantTurkey | cloudrf: sounds awesome |
| Xu_R | LOL |
| Xu_R | Nicee. |
| cloudrf | for distributors i have dandh, asi, and infotel, and for partners i got dlink, asus, msi, nvidia, and amd |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: I was supposed to keep a journal for the class so today I get to write 30 journals all at once :[ |
| MutantTurkey | stupid finals week |
| Xu_R | :( |
| cloudrf | going to give trinity a whirl now |
| MutantTurkey | cloudrf: cool. I recommend nightlies, but 3.5.13.1 is good as well |
| cloudrf | hopefully its as awesome as kde 3.5 was |
| MutantTurkey | I would say it is, seeing as there are quite a few new features and a lot of bugs fixed up |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: Ugh. I have finals at uni the week of December 17. :/ |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: yuck! |
| cloudrf | xfce is another good one too |
| MutantTurkey | wait I thought you hadn't graduated yet? |
| MutantTurkey | cloudrf: definitely, I like xfce. |
| MutantTurkey | It does not offer as much though |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: Dual Enrollment |
| cloudrf | xfce is what i load on customer machines |
| cloudrf | but if trinity works out awesome |
| cloudrf | liked konqueror better |
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| MutantTurkey | konqueror is no longer useable for much web browsing however. |
| MutantTurkey | still excellent for everything else. |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: is there a way to find out what packages are required to build a package? Konversation is complaining that I am missing X includes. |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: you can use: apt-get build-dep konversation |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1288 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1288 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, kdesktop_lock crashes or hangs |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1352 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1352 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kradio3: radio presets are obsoletes |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1352 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1353 filed by jmdh01@btinternet.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1353 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, System Settings -> Monitor & Display does not do anything useful and crashes |
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| cloudrf | anyone here today? |
| Space_Man | no |
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| Kojak | Hi all. I'm a new TDE user and would like to ask a question or two. |
| Kojak | How can I see the option to SHUTDOWN my computer? |
| Kojak | I only see LOGOUT or LOCK SESSION |
| Fat-Zer | Kojak: you are using 3.5.13.1, isn't it? is hal installed & running? |
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| Kojak | Not sure if HAL is running. Will check. Fat-Zer |
| Fat-Zer | ps aux |grep hal |
| Kojak | john@jupiter:~/pacman/pkg$ ps aux |grep hal |
| Kojak | john 8991 0.0 0.0 4640 928 pts/0 S+ 22:36 0:00 grep --color=auto hal |
| Kojak | Don't think so |
| Kojak | just started hald |
| Kojak | john@jupiter:~/pacman/pkg$ ps aux |grep hal |
| Kojak | hal 9038 2.5 0.1 18356 4512 ? Ssl 22:38 0:00 hald --daemon=yes |
| Kojak | root 9039 0.0 0.0 15360 1552 ? Sl 22:38 0:00 hald-runner |
| Kojak | root 9069 0.0 0.0 6220 1296 ? S 22:38 0:00 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event9 /dev/input/event8 /dev/input/event7 /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event2 |
| Kojak | root 9085 0.0 0.0 6220 1292 ? S 22:38 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sde (every 2 sec) |
| Kojak | root 9087 0.0 0.0 6220 1292 ? S 22:38 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sdc (every 2 sec) |
| Kojak | root 9088 0.0 0.0 6220 1296 ? S 22:38 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sdf (every 2 sec) |
| Kojak | root 9089 0.0 0.0 6220 1292 ? S 22:38 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sdg (every 2 sec) |
| Kojak | root 9090 0.0 0.0 6220 1292 ? S 22:38 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sdh (every 2 sec) |
| Kojak | root 9091 0.0 0.0 6220 1296 ? S 22:38 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sdd (every 2 sec) |
| Kojak | hal 9101 0.0 0.0 4120 1108 ? S 22:38 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-acpi |
| Kojak | john 9105 0.0 0.0 4644 928 pts/0 R+ 22:38 0:00 grep --color=auto hal |
| Fat-Zer | you should restart trinity after that |
| Kojak | ok brb |
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| Kojak | Still only seeing Lock and Logout in the menu after the restart. |
| Fat-Zer | hmm... |
| Kojak | Should Shutdown be appearing there now? |
| Fat-Zer | haven't got compiled trinity now, can't check... |
| Fat-Zer | yes |
| Fat-Zer | there should be to varians |
| Fat-Zer | logout and shutdon |
| Fat-Zer | shutdown should show a window |
| Kojak | Don't worry about it Fat-Zer. It's not a big problem, just a pain in the ass :) |
| Fat-Zer | ... wuth varians: shutdown/reboot etc |
| Kojak | Yeah a window with several options... |
| Fat-Zer | yes |
| Kojak | I remember it from a while back :) |
| pauline | Hi, does anyone know how to create and install widgets for trinity? |
| Kojak | Should I using another version of TDE or is 3.5.13 (arch) the latest |
| Fat-Zer | Kojak: 3.5.13.1 is the latest stable version |
| Kojak | ok thanks Fat-Zer |
| Fat-Zer | there is also a development version (R14.0) it's avalible for some distributions as «nightly builds» etc... |
| Fat-Zer | pauline: what do you mean by «widgets»? |
| Kojak | I was not sure of the differences. I had the option to install it for Arch but I selected 3.5.13 to be sure |
| pauline | I mean like the Hi-Color widget sets that you can change using the theme manager, like the buttons on the windows for close,maximize, minimize, all desktops and menu. |
| Kojak | I can't remember how to disable the "bubbles" that appear above the panel. With the large icons and text. Can you remember? |
| Fat-Zer | Kojak: in the kicker's setting dialog on the appearens tab. |
| Kojak | Of Kontrol Centre? |
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| Fat-Zer | Kojak: you can just rightclick on the panel |
| Fat-Zer | pauline: it's called «styles» there are 3 different shcheans: window-decorator styles, color theme and widget styles. |
| Fat-Zer | the second one could be easily changed/seted in the kcontrol |
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| Kojak | When I right-click on the kicker panel I see "configure panel". I select that and another window opens showing options for the panel. But no "appearance" tab. BRB... kicker has crashed on me. Need to restart TDE |
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| Fat-Zer | pauline: the widget styles are a shared libraries writen in C++, generally it's only a class inherited from QStyle |
| Fat-Zer | about window-decorations I can't say anything ... |
| Fat-Zer | Kojak: the fourth one... I'm using the localized version so I don't know how it's called in english... |
| Kojak | Fat-Zer: in the "Configure the Panel" window that opens, I only have an option for Taskbar settings - only 1 option ??? |
| Kojak | I remember how tro do it from years ago but something seems to be missing |
| Kojak | is there a command from console to open kicker settings? |
| Kojak | I remember I could set kicker background and size etc |
| Kojak | But these options are not present if I right-click the panel |
| Fat-Zer | kcmshell panel |
| Fat-Zer | kcmshell kcmtaskbar |
| Kojak | kcmshell kcmtaskbar is what I see only! kcmshell panel is empty! |
| Kojak | Maybe I am missing some files? |
| Kojak | john@jupiter:~/Desktop$ kcmshell panel |
| Kojak | Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. |
| Kojak | X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 |
| Kojak | Major opcode: 20 |
| Kojak | Minor opcode: 0 |
| Kojak | Resource id: 0x3c00006 |
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| pauline | <FatZer>I get that it is only an inherited file... I just don't get where to find examples/how to create them |
| Fat-Zer | take a look at kcmshell --list if there a something like panel... |
| Kojak | There is "panel" |
| Kojak | but the window is empty :S |
| Kojak | panel - Configure the arrangement of the panel |
| pauline | <Fat-Zer> Just to be clear, I am aware one can adjust them through going to the tde menu -> settings -> Appearances & themes -> Window Decorations... but how can I create my own and change their placements |
| Fat-Zer | pauline: you can use existing styles from kdebase/kdeartwork as examples. also you supposed to take a look at Qt3 documentation... |
| pauline | <Fat-Zer> thank you... I have looked at some of the Qt3 documentation... perthaps I missed it or something. Thanks. |
| Kojak | goodnight Fat-Zer. thank you for your help. I'm off to bed :) |
| Fat-Zer | pauline: IMO at first it's better to take a look at existing styles: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdeartwork/tree/twin-styles |
| Fat-Zer | Kojak: ok... |
| Fat-Zer | good night |
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| pauline | <Fat-Zer> Should the names in my Window Decorations app be the same as those listed there? Because they are not :( However it is the same number. |
| Fat-Zer | displayed names are mentioned in the *.desktop files. Also you'll get those styles only if you have instaled kdeartwork-kwinstyles package (don't know how it's called exectly in your distro) |
| Fat-Zer | *exactly |
| Fat-Zer | PS: sorry for my bad english... |
| pauline | Fat-Zer: Is it possible to install them on a user basis and if so how? I know it would be somewhere in my .trinity folder. And your english is perfectly aceptable (at least to me) |
| Fat-Zer | I'm not sure about that... but it shouldn't be possible cause it requires at least a native library to be installed... |
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| Fat-Zer | pauline: may be it's possible to install icewm themes to user dirs and use them... Also it would be nice if we port Aurorae engine from kde4... It should be possible and not too hard. |
| Fat-Zer | pauline: here is a kde3 howto on the kwin decorators: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6332 |
| Fat-Zer | also here is a kde3 aurora-like framework for easily-created themes: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31447&forumpage=16 |
| Fat-Zer | but it's source code seems to be missing... |
| pauline | thanks for the help. I will see what I can come up with. |
| pauline | One small problem though, that howto does not work... The example will not build. |
| pauline | I have tried thaat one... sorry. Just realized it. |
| pauline | I will take a look at the ones one the git tree and see if I can wrap my head around them. Thanks for the help though. |
| Fat-Zer | np |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1354 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1354 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, twin fails when dcop resumeWindow is called |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: someone has a bug reported to add pandora support to amarok |
| MutantTurkey | LOL! |
| MutantTurkey | I don't think that will ever happen |
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| cloudrf | LONG LIVE TDE! |
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| cloudrf | hey |
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| cloudrf | hey all |
| cloudrf | i am very surprised at the lightweight on a athlon 2 x3 |
| cloudrf | very lightweight and fast |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1288 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1288 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kdesktop_lock crashes or hangs |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 964 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=964 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Stop tbottu spamming email |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1299 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1299 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, [Bugzilla documentation issue] Status=PATCHAVAIL is not described on the help page. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1354 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1354 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, twin fails when dcop resumeWindow is called |
| rzs19 | is there a tde 3.5.13.2 testing repo? |
| rzs19 | like it was for 3.5.13.1 ? |
| K`zan | Anyone know if there is going to be a live ubu 12.04 CD/DVD available at some point (hopefully 64 bit?)? |
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| Kojak | I am trying to browse my LAN in Dolphin. When I click Local Network, I get a message about LISA daemon not running. When I try Network Services there is a message KDE is built without zeroconf? |
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| Fat-Zer_ | Kojak: AFAIK zeroconf support is broken on build-system level... and do you really need LISA? it's a kde3-only protocol... |
| Fat-Zer_ | here is what LISA is: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdenetwork/tree/lanbrowsing/lisa/README |
| Kojak | Fat-Zer_: how can I see servers on my network in Dolphin? I have to add samba shares for each folder? |
| Kojak | Thank you. Reading now |
| Fat-Zer_ | what kind of servers you suppose to see? |
| Fat-Zer_ | or you just whant to browse samba shares? |
| Kojak | I have 2 NAS. Synology DS209 and home made Ubuntu NAS. |
| Fat-Zer_ | what protocols do they use? |
| Fat-Zer_ | samba? |
| Kojak | They can use samba, nfs, ftp, ssh etc I mostly uses samba for small file transfers |
| Fat-Zer_ | so it should be enougth to enter smb:/ in adress string for samba. |
| Fat-Zer_ | there also should be an icon for it in network:/ |
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| Kojak | I guess so. I just thought that because the option for "Local Network" was there, maybe it should work :) It's no big deal |
| Fat-Zer_ | for access files over ssh you can use fish:/server/ |
| Fat-Zer_ | the same for ftp |
| Fat-Zer_ | I don't know about nfs... |
| Fat-Zer_ | fish://server/ |
| Fat-Zer_ | *two slashes |
| Kojak | yeah that works ok. |
| Kojak | I thought that the "Network" place in Dolphin would be a "central" place to browse they network without having to use fish etc. .... I'm kinda lazy :) |
| Fat-Zer_ | It should be possible to browse them via zeroconf if avahi is running on those machines, but as I said it seems to be broken. |
| Kojak | Ok thanks again for all your help Fat-Zer_ . I'm off to my bed for work tomorrow. Goodnight |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 693 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=693 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, KFind: add a maxdepth option |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 881 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=881 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, kate-sort plugin should be added tdeaddons and be ported to katepart |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1127 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1127 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, PATCHAVAIL, Kate: Add the ability to force Kate into MDI mode all the time |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1131 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1131 normal, P5, ---, mutantturkey, NEEDINFO, kate - opening project with remote files should not create a connection dialog for each file |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1279 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1279 minor, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, kate/kwrite stalls a long time opening any *.kcrash file |
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| K`zan | Anyone know if there is going to be a live ubu 12.04 CD/DVD available at some point (hopefully 64 bit?)? |
| * Fat-Zer_ dunno | |
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| deitarion | How would I set my Trinity apps to use GNOME/OSX dialog button order (OK on the right) like every other app on my desktop? (GtkStyle, which just obeys GTK+'s setting, didn't arrive until somewere around KDE 4.5 as I remember) |
| deitarion | And, in case anyone wants to argue, it doesn't matter what desktop mixture I'm running. Even in a pure KDE or Trinity environment, I still want OK in the corner. See http://uxmovement.com/buttons/why-ok-buttons-in-dialog-boxes-work-best-on-the-right/ for a good rationale. |
| rzs19 | SlavekB: Hello :) How are you? |
| SlavekB | rzs19: Hello. Yesterday I was at the concert and now I have a rest day :) How are you? |
| deitarion | Hmm. QtCurve apparently would let me select dialog button order, but I never fixed the "Trinity Control Center is empty" problem. |
| deitarion | Any idea how I could track down the source of that problem? Google is coming up empty. |
| deitarion | Running strace on it doesn't turn up anything relevant if I grep the output for /etc, /opt, or ENOENT. |
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| rzs19 | Concert? Fine and you? |
| SlavekB | rzs19: British damn fast metal band DragonForce :) |
| SlavekB | deitarion: Have you tried, how it behaves on a new clean profile? |
| deitarion | Do you mean removing ~/.trinity or a new system-level user account? |
| SlavekB | Removing ~/.trinity |
| deitarion | Because I tried renaming ~/.trinity to ~/trinity.old and then killing dcopserver and removing ~/.ICEauthority but that didn't change anything. (I have to do the latter two every time I restart BasKet Note Pads without restarting the system or it'll fail to embed its tray icon into LXPanel) |
| deitarion | ...and, since I'm using Lubuntu, I'd have to log out of my current session to try a different user account and I've got too much in progress to do that right now. |
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| Frankko | Wow! So trinity desktop has actually been the first to make a unified gtk2,gtk3, qt3 and qt4 experience. i love it. |
| Frankko | the only things lacking in trinity desktop for me is "ktorrent that can handle magnet links" and an RSS reader that supports google reader syncing (like liferea) |
| Frankko | everything else to just top notch in all regards |
| Frankko | trying to get gtk3 to behace nicely in MATE or kde is an real problem |
| Frankko | once again: Kudos to the dev's i knw they are few in number but they are doing an awesome job. |
| MutantTurkey | :) |
| MutantTurkey | sounds good |
| MutantTurkey | I am glad you are enjoying it. |
| MutantTurkey | Frankko: yeah, ktorrent is junk. Frankly I've been using transmission-gtk for a long time, and it's awesome |
| MutantTurkey | with the integration I don't notice it either |
| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 607 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=607 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Kicker doesn't show windows with size <= 5 pixels |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1291 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1291 trivial, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, some kickoff menu bugs |
| Frankko | transmission is awful in my experience and if i "have" to use a gtk app i pick deluge due to the blocklist and p2p-s features that transmission lack |
| Frankko | or maybe it is included now, it was not last time i tried though |
| Frankko | transmission was initially a BeOS torrent client, and i loved it. But the beos port is dead and transmission gets lower transfer rates than rtorrent on my system for some reason. |
| Frankko | getting magnet to run on rtorrent is still a bother, i mean it works perfectly when you got the config. |
| Frankko | i deleted mine that i worked on. |
| Frankko | by reinstall and forgetting to back up |
| MutantTurkey | it's not terribele |
| MutantTurkey | Honestly transmission is my favorite :P |
| MutantTurkey | actually vuze is awesome (feature wise) but it bloated as crap |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1355 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1355 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpdf crashes |
| MutantTurkey | anyone running R14? |
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| deitarion | Frankko: My approach to that sort of thing is to keep my user profile in a git repository and use a little Python script to automate the process of generating symlinks for everything since you can't make your homedir itself a repo. (The .git in $HOME has a different purpose than the .git in a repo) |
| deitarion | Not everything, mind you... but anything that I set once and may never touch again unless I reinstall. |
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| deitarion | Frankko: If you want the script, it's here --> https://github.com/ssokolow/profile/blob/master/install.py |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1356 filed by linuxkid@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1356 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, linking ERROR |
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| linuxkid | Hi, anyone know what this means when building kdebase In function `BGDialog::~BGDialog()': .. the error is longer of course.. :) |
| linuxkid | in kcm_background-module.dir/ i get the error. Seems like its not linking in a certain library or perhaps its a GCC error.. |
| linuxkid | anyhow.. If anyone knows.. please email me linuxkid@yahoo.com Thanks. oh yeah i filed a bug report and was hoping to find a forum..but see its closed down due to spam.. |
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| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: please cherry-pick commit 6868254e for cmake package to sru branch |
| Fat-Zer | at least that part with HINTS |
| Fat-Zer | hi by the word=) |
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| tbottu | 10denis.prost@wanadoo.fr changed the Status on bug 283 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=283 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, search field in KDE main menu is slow |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 85 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=85 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kmix for KDE4 conflicts with kmix for KDE3 |
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| Borg^Queen | Hi people. I need photos of crushed/waterlogged computer towers, does anyone have any? It's for an environmental project for my niece. |
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| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: hi |
| Fat-Zer_ | can you cherry-pick commit 6868254e for cmake package to sru branch, at least the HINTS changes. Without it trinity FTBFS if kde4 installed. |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: Sorry, I have finally go to sleep :) |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: ...but I've got it marked here. |
| Fat-Zer_ | ok |
| Fat-Zer_ | thanks |
| Fat-Zer_ | gn |
| SlavekB | gn |
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| frankko | anyone got a 1920x1080 version of the nebula background image somewhere? |
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| rzs19 | SlavekB: what i wanted to ask you: is there a TDE 3.5.13.2 testing repo? |
| SlavekB | rzs19: I'll start preparing packages until this weekend. (I suppose) |
| rzs19 | SlavekB: awesome news. |
| rzs19 | SlavekB: I'm ready to test |
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| Jota | Hi everyone! |
| Jota | There will be a 3.5.13.2 release?? |
| Jota | Anyone knows if there will be a Trinity 3.5.13.2 release? |
| Jota | and why in Kopete, the Msn picture does not display?? is it a bug or just me?? |
| Jota | Anyone knows if there will be a Trinity 3.5.13.2 release? 11:37:36 and why in Kopete, the Msn picture does not display?? is it a bug or just me?? |
| Jota | Anyone knows if there will be a Trinity 3.5.13.2 release? |
| Jota | And why in Kopete, the Msn picture does not display?? is it a bug or just me?? |
| SlavekB | Jota: Release date for 3.5.13.2 is not yet determined. |
| Jota | Hi, thanks... but there will be a release?? |
| SlavekB | I suppose so. It's been a few patches already backported. |
| Jota | and, can I install 3.5.13.1 on a pure Debian Wheezy?? |
| SlavekB | You need a few packages from Squeeze ... and Trinity for Squeeze. |
| Jota | gcc-4.4 , for instance?? |
| SlavekB | Regarding 3.5.13.x for Wheezy, so far I have not decided whether to prepare or not. |
| Jota | ohhh... I think you should, if it's not too much work... Wheezy is just around the corner, I guess... it is quite stable now |
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| Jota | and, about the Kopete problem?? any ideia?? |
| Jota | in Kopete, the Msn picture does not display?? is it a bug or just me?? |
| SlavekB | I do not use MSN, so I can not serve. |
| Jota | ah, ok! thanks anyway!! |
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| cloudrf | hey guys |
| cloudrf | looking for a suitable package manager for tde |
| cloudrf | and also planning to release a trinity based distro |
| cloudrf | i need to works out some bugs first tho |
| Space_Man | cloudrf: I use adept |
| Space_Man | it is not the best, or even second best |
| Space_Man | but it has lots of packages |
| Space_Man | oh and crashes a lot :P |
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| MutantTurkey | howdy folks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1357 filed by n_techo@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1357 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror smb:/ not displaying all folders |
| tbottu | 10n_techo@yahoo.com changed the Component on bug 1357 from debian to tdebase. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1357 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror smb:/ not displaying all folders |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1358 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1358 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, glib main loop integration problems |
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| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1344 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1344 normal, P5, ---, humanreadable, ASSIGNED, tde-i18n: some conflicts in documentation. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1359 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1359 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Provide a mechanism to support DNS prefetching |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1360 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1360 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Akregator provides no GUI control to disable automatic loading of images |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1361 filed by humanreadable@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1361 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror provides no GUI control to ignore favicons |
| tbottu | 10humanreadable@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1349 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1349 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Make keyboard delay easier to make match any common BIOS setting (a multiple of 50) |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1361 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1361 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror provides no GUI control to ignore favicons |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1346 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1346 major, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, Logging to TDE takes more than 10 seconds. |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1347 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1347 minor, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, Mouse pointer not visible when TDE session gets locked. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1358 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1358 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, glib main loop integration problems |
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| Shdwdrgn | hmm just ran through updates and rebooted, now neither firefox nor thunderbird will start |
| Shdwdrgn | KCrash: Application Name = gtk-qt-application path = <unknown> pid = 4290 |
| Shdwdrgn | Segmentation fault |
| Shdwdrgn | any thoughts? |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: got some recommendations |
| Shdwdrgn | cool |
| MutantTurkey | First it seems that the gtk engine is crashing |
| MutantTurkey | so I would as a quick fix, change your GTK theme settings from "use my tde theme" to another style. |
| MutantTurkey | but before that... |
| MutantTurkey | run it again, get a segmentation fault, and save the kcrash |
| MutantTurkey | so that we can debug it |
| Shdwdrgn | fwiw, I was just reading a thread which suggested uninstalling kgtk-qt3-trinity |
| Shdwdrgn | and I do in fact have that installed... any issues there? |
| Shdwdrgn | and how do I save the kcrash? |
| MutantTurkey | it is likely that the gtk engine is the problem |
| MutantTurkey | I would recommend trying that first |
| MutantTurkey | when there is a segmentation fault, does a window pop up>? |
| Shdwdrgn | no I only get the crash message when I run from console. If I try to run the app from the menu, nothing happens, it just disappears out of memory |
| Shdwdrgn | hmm removing kgtk-qt3-trinity requires removing kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| Shdwdrgn | somehow I think that might be a problem |
| Shdwdrgn | ok following down the thread, it suggests renaming /opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so. Going to try that, I have to logout for it to take affect |
| Shdwdrgn | brb |
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| Shdwdrgn | and that failed |
| Shdwdrgn | you have any more ideas? |
| Shdwdrgn | went into GTK styles, changed to "Use another style" and hit apply, still fails to load ff/tb |
| Shdwdrgn | MutantTurkey, still awake? |
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| Shdwdrgn | FYI, this thread describes my situation exactly... http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.desktop.trinity.user/2727 |
| Shdwdrgn | I'm also running natty, and just pushed up ff and tb from versions 15 to 16 |
| Shdwdrgn | the only difference is I get segmentation faults rather than memory faults |
| Shdwdrgn | oh... my changes to GTK style are not sticking. When I close out of kcontrol and go back in again, the setting has gone back to "Use my KDE style" |
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| Shdwdrgn | ah-HA! |
| Shdwdrgn | must change it to a non-QT style. Raleigh was the only other thing I had available, but TB is starting up now |
| Shdwdrgn | so, besides changing the gtk style, I also had file "/opt/trinity/share/kgtk/preload" which contained the line "/opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so". I removed the preload file and restarted X, and together it has resolved the problem |
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| MutantTurkey | Shdwdrgn: sorry i fell asleep at my desk! |
| MutantTurkey | time to go to sleep heh |
| Shdwdrgn | haha |
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| chuwanga | hi,iam on linuxmint14/-ubuntuQuantal,.and i like to dive into oldschool kde3.5..but i only see /ubuntu precise |
| chuwanga | is there somthing for 12.10? |
| SlavekB | Yes |
| SlavekB | two options |
| SlavekB | 1) development version - nightly-builds - not recommended for routine use |
| SlavekB | 2) prepared update for stable branch 3.5.13.x |
| SlavekB | ad 2) at this time, yet unofficial |
| chuwanga | how to install 2) |
| SlavekB | see instructions on |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?field.series_filter=quantal&start=0&batch=150 |
| SlavekB | In short, add to apt sources: |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu quantal main |
| chuwanga | thx SlavekB |
| SlavekB | chuwanga: you're welcome |
| chuwanga | 38.8 kB/s 1h 16min 24s |
| chuwanga | whaaaaaaaa :) |
| SlavekB | The source is not on the mirrors, but are downloaded directly from the master server. |
| SlavekB | ... and it is very slow :) |
| chuwanga | dum di dum di dum |
| chuwanga | 6,988 B/s 6h 36min 57s 'YaYBaby! :D |
| SlavekB | It is also a test user's loyalty ;) |
| chuwanga | :) |
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| Z_God | any dcop experts around? |
| Z_God | I'm looking at bug 100 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=100 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Keyboard layout switcher does not work |
| Z_God | and it seems the problem is that the dcop event is already fired in key press, but it should be fired on key release instead |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1362 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1362 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMJobViewer crash into freeing from different threads by kjobviewer one |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1360 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1360 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Akregator provides no GUI control to disable automatic loading of images |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1363 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1363 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdebase fails to build when demangle.h is not installed |
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| JotaMG | Hi! |
| JotaMG | I have a strange little problem... |
| JotaMG | In my Trinity 3.5.13.1 (debian squeeze) I have a entry for KPDF in the start menu, that I can not get rid of... it always re-appears in the menu! |
| JotaMG | any ideia how can I erase that entry?? |
| JotaMG | well... i have to go now... maybe another time.... thanks for the help!!! |
| JotaMG | bye |
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| Shdwdrgn | anyone else having problems with a recent upgrade to firefox 16.0.2? I had v15 before, but over the last couple days FF will run for a short time (under an hour), then apparently can no longer reach the internet until I restart the program. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1310 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1310 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: initial cmake support for tdeutils |
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| chuwanga | heyHo,just stepped in to say,everything works fine,.damn i missed god ´ol kde3.5! |
| chuwanga | its feeling like "home" |
| chuwanga | love the konQ |
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| chuwanga | ohNO!the.saveas.dialog is broken?icant save nothing /firefox/chrome |
| SlavekB | Try uninstall package kgtk-qt3 |
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| chuwanga | nope |
| chuwanga | doesnt work |
| SlavekB | Try to install gtk2-engines-qtcurve and in Control Center in GTK theme configuration select qtcurve, instead of use TDE theme. |
| chuwanga | my bad,removing kgtk-qt3 sealsthedeal ,i forgot to close n reopen my browser :) |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: hi |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: hi |
| Fat-Zer_ | I've got kicker crash, like that on bug 1161 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1161 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kicker says it crashed, but actually seems to work |
| Fat-Zer_ | I've attached my gdb log, it seems XGetGeometry returns bad values |
| Fat-Zer_ | got any ideas, why it can be so? |
| Fat-Zer_ | the crash doesn't hits each time... and if I use step-by-step debug it seems doesn't ocures.... |
| SlavekB | Strange. |
| Fat-Zer_ | yep |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: I see Tim prepared a workaround for bug 1161. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1161 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kicker says it crashed, but actually seems to work |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1161 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1161 trivial, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Kicker says it crashed, but actually seems to work |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1364 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1364 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity still attempts to start some kde4 stuff |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1364 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1364 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Trinity still attempts to start some kde4 stuff |
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| Fat-Zer_ | tim never showes up on the chanel? |
| SlavekB | very very very rarely |
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| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: can you fix FTBFS in tdelibs-R14 caused by Tim's last yesterday commit a81c2d0... here is the build log: http://bpaste.net/show/64000/ you just |
| Fat-Zer_ | you just have to remove the const in the .cpp file |
| Fat-Zer_ | I don't want to post another bug report about it... |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: and here is the patch: http://bpaste.net/show/64003/ |
| SlavekB | Nice, thank you. |
| SlavekB | Only now I'm finishing up something else, then I test it and commit. |
| Fat-Zer_ | ok... |
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| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: have you seen something like this: http://itmages.ru/image/view/799906/b3b97d27 |
| Fat-Zer_ | instead of labales kcalc dispayes sortcuts... |
| Fat-Zer_ | *lables |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: When I press Ctrl kcalc shows shortcuts. |
| Fat-Zer_ | seems Ctrl stucked >_< |
| Fat-Zer_ | thanks |
| Fat-Zer_ | I've already started watching through kcalc source >_< |
| SlavekB | :) |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: hi |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Did you notice commit e12b7bea in tde-packaging? |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: Pretty. I was about to put your patch, but first I made ​git pull and behold, Tim already repaired this. |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: in commit 0a039a72. |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: Now I just have to decide whether these patches backport or not.... :) |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: Doesn't matter, It's just a compiller warning issue... |
| Fat-Zer_ | *it's just a clean up of the compiller warnings |
| SlavekB | I see it as well - it's not important patches for stable branch. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz marked bug 1055 as a duplicate of bug 249. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1055 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, On some pages Konqueror very like crashes |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=249 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror crashes on some web pages |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1365 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1365 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue:initial cmake support for konversation |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 737 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=737 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kmail - Unable to complete LIST operation |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer: Please, are you thinking about CMake conversion for other base packages? |
| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: yes, I'm planning to finish with tdepim (and maybe kdevelop) gentoo packaging, which on my expirience bring some cmake patches and then start tdeaddons, kipi-libraries, gwenview and maybe tdemultimedia |
| SlavekB | I looked forward that it could be converted all base packages before other individual applications :) |
| SlavekB | In any case I am glad for your good work. |
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| Fat-Zer | I'm just working on what I wanna use myself at first :) |
| Fat-Zer | also I wanna repair kdetv - AFAIK it still uses v4l1. althogh it was droped from newer kernels... |
| SlavekB | I remember correctly, that kdetv is not yet in Trinity? |
| SlavekB | It is good news that it will be possible to include kdetv into Trinity! |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1351 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1351 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kioslaves with hal FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1280 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1280 trivial, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: migratekde3 and r14-xdg-update scripts are install independently to any build rule. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1366 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1366 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Some insane variables are passed to kde4 applications. |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1366 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1366 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Some insane variables are passed to kde4 applications. |
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| MutantTurkey | who's this MIchele guy? I like him! |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: If I remember, Michele alluded to her husband ;) |
| MutantTurkey | really? |
| MutantTurkey | Because she then also said "Michael" if we preferred |
| MutantTurkey | I assumed it was a french spelling |
| MutantTurkey | unless that was also aj oke |
| SlavekB | Aha |
| SlavekB | Then I probably remember it wrong :) |
| MutantTurkey | maybe not |
| MutantTurkey | who knows |
| MutantTurkey | either way this person |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1355 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1355 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, kpdf crashes |
| MutantTurkey | I have until 1:30 to finish my final exam paper... blech |
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| K`zan | Hello folks, just installed ubu 12.10 and immediately went to look for TDE, but there is no 12.10 version (quantal quetzal), but 12.04 is in the official binaries, would that work with 12.10. Hate to have to go back and install 12.04 - Trinity is NOT optional here :-)? |
| MutantTurkey | hey |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB:? |
| MutantTurkey | K`zan: there are probably nightly builds for 12.10 |
| K`zan | Thanks, just wasn't clear as to whether or not 12.04 and 12.10 were essentially the same. |
| K`zan | gnome has actually gotten worse, if you can imagine that... |
| K`zan | After looking at that I am either going to try the 12.04 version or go back and install 12.04.... |
| K`zan | Nope, not a clue about what to do with the nightly builds :-(. |
| K`zan | df -h |
| K`zan | Going to give a go with the precise binaries and see how it fits into 12.10/64.... Worst case I start over. |
| K`zan | with 12.04 |
| K`zan | They have really screwed up ubu, massive spam / sell. Ugh. |
| K`zan | Any comments on using the 12.04 stuff in 12.10, while I ponder just what to do next? |
| MutantTurkey | use debian |
| MutantTurkey | thats what I do |
| MutantTurkey | it's great |
| MutantTurkey | :-) |
| MutantTurkey | debian wheezy with nightly builds of trinity |
| MutantTurkey | fantastic |
| K`zan | Just overwrote my deb5 install for this :). |
| K`zan | Problem I always has with deb, was that stuff was so old :-(. |
| MutantTurkey | not wheezy |
| K`zan | Thrash thrash thrash :-(.... |
| K`zan | Finally got off dead center after having been runnin 10.10 with probably the first relase of trinity... |
| K`zan | Well, if this has been all wasted time because I didn't check first, I might as well see what happens if I do the 12.04 version, it is useless as it stands. |
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| K`zan | After I reboot for the tons of updates right out of the box :-). |
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| K`zan | Just FWIW, 12.04 stuff generates a pile of unmet dependencies, no cigar :-(. E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| K`zan | so much for this one, either install 12.04 or put it all on the side until 12.10 gets ready. |
| K`zan | Thanks folks! |
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| Frankko | I am getting annoyed by ubuntu |
| Frankko | i love debian beyond sanity, but i can not use steam for the grandkids |
| Frankko | should i just remove the dependencies and hope for the best? |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1286 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1286 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: WITH_SUDO_KDESU_BACKEND option is present it tdelibs but wasn't defined and described |
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| Frankko | is there a way to search for packages on the trinity website? |
| Frankko | found it |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1366 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1366 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, NEEDINFO, Some insane variables are passed to kde4 applications. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1366 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1366 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Some insane variables are passed to kde4 applications. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 675 from PATCHAVAIL to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=675 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, startkde (starttde) needs updating |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1366 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1366 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Some insane variables are passed to kde4 applications. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1286 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1286 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: WITH_SUDO_KDESU_BACKEND option is present it tdelibs but wasn't defined and described |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1367 filed by dzfixes-box1@yahoo.co.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1367 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdmrc: kcontrol deletes commented lines in kdmrc |
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| Fat-Zer_ | have you ever think: may be trinity is really a rotting corpe of kde3 and we all are just bunch of necrophiliacs? =( |
| Fat-Zer_ | may be it will be easier to port kdesktop kicker and whatever to kde4. |
| Fat-Zer_ | *? |
| SlavekB | Porting kicker not solve that KDE4 is significantly slower. |
| Fat-Zer_ | so there are no chances to optimize qt4 to qt3 level? or the problems are in kde code? |
| SlavekB | I do not know. But KDE4 team had plenty of time to solve this ... and the result is the need to upgrade hardware. :( |
| SlavekB | Not to mention the impossibility configuration × nonsensical configuration options. |
| Fat-Zer_ | trinity is so huge and requires so a lot of work to miatain/support/develop/fix it... and seems all this is going nowhere eventually... |
| Fat-Zer_ | yes, kde4 CMakeList.txt's are compleatly unreadable.... so it's hard to do something with them... |
| SlavekB | The truth - we are little team and a lot of work. But it is much more usable for me Trinity than KDE4. |
| SlavekB | Not only that, their CMake are illegible, but apparently still have not completed the change from Subvertion to the GIT. |
| SlavekB | kdenetwork probably still lives in Subversion. |
| Fat-Zer_ | really? o_O AFAIR they migrated to git more than a year ago and theer shouldn't be a lot of issues with such migration... strange... |
| SlavekB | Their migration to GIT seems pretty tacky! While we have an orderly transition of the entire history from Subversion, it seems to me that KDE4 team ignored history during transition to the GIT. |
| Fat-Zer_ | anyway some kde4 apps like okular,digikam and ktorrent (and in some cases gwenview and kdevelop) beat trinities analogs like *don't know butifull english metaphores for how much they beat us* |
| Fat-Zer_ | so everything this gives quite sad perspectives to the project... |
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| SlavekB | wow, my kopete crashed :'( |
| Fat-Zer_ | trinity's kopete is outdated in some its parts too... =( |
| SlavekB | It is true that we need to get R14 into a state for final release. |
| Fat-Zer_ | R14 will bring tons of bugs with it... I still can't even start it normally because is seams kwin is missing somewhere in start scripts.... |
| SlavekB | For me it is currently the main v3.5.13-sru branch. For now for R14 I only test builds, but in this time I do not have a test machine where I can test the usability. |
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| Fat-Zer | ok... I'll take a walk for a while... |
| SlavekB | I'll have to go to sleep :) |
| Fat-Zer | gn |
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| Z_God | I reinstalled my system yesterday, ubuntu 12.04 with trinity 3.5.13, but nm-applet doesn't work anymore |
| Z_God | does anyone have a solution for that? |
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| MutantTurkey | heyoh |
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| Aristide | Hi ! |
| Aristide | I want how use wireless on Trinity ^^ |
| Aristide | *to know how * |
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| MutantTurkey | dang |
| MutantTurkey | I hate when someone has a question and I am not around |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: kickoff is so hacky its disgusting |
| MutantTurkey | it should be removed entirely |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1368 filed by mutantturkey@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1368 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Show twin task switching on all displays |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1369 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1369 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Memory leak into CUPS IPP processing function addStringList_p() |
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| MutantTurkey | hey i need some verification of some issues... anyone help?} |
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| MutantTurkey | really trying to figure out this kickoff thing |
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| tbottu | 10mutantturkey@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1369 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1369 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Memory leak into CUPS IPP processing function addStringList_p() |
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| affect | heya! is there a working arch repo for r14? http://archlinux.us.to/14.0.0/x86_64/ specified in the wiki seems to be empty |
| affect | oh well guess I'll have to use 13 |
| affect | http://pastebin.com/bQY8EsTz meh |
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| Space_Man | what is the easiest way to install the latest Ubuntu and Trinity? |
| Space_Man | ubuntu 12.10 and trinity 3.5.13.1? |
| SlavekB | I recommend use an alternate installation - netinst. |
| SlavekB | After installing the base system, then add to APT sources my PPA where are already packages for Quantal. |
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| Space_Man | thanks SlavekB |
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| rzs19 | i like kickoff |
| rzs19 | and i also like trains |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1370 filed by f_ii@email.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1370 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kbluetooth cannot be disabled using UI dialog |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1365 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1365 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue:initial cmake support for konversation |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1371 filed by f_ii@email.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1371 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, CD/DVD notification does not work properly |
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| Space_Man | hi SlavekB |
| Space_Man | I now have 3.5.13.2 installed on ubuntu 12.10 |
| Space_Man | but I don't know what sources are really needed! |
| Space_Man | http://pastebin.com/g07qHnJ7 |
| Space_Man | are builddeps needed? |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: At this time, everything necessary for Quantal is in my PPA. There is no need for any additional resource Trinity. |
| Space_Man | thank you |
| SlavekB | Into official sources, the packages will be copied when 3.5.13.2 goes released as final. |
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| Space_Man | SlavekB: I have a problem with firefox, opera and picassa crashing |
| Space_Man | opera segfaults when a file chooser window appears and then closes |
| SlavekB | You have installed kgtk-qt3? |
| Space_Man | maybe :P |
| Space_Man | I couldn't remember its name |
| Space_Man | should I remove it or install it? |
| SlavekB | I remember it as a frequent cause of problems ;) |
| SlavekB | Remove it. |
| Space_Man | is it kgtk-qt3-trinity ? |
| SlavekB | (Y) |
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| Space_Man | thank you SlavekB |
| Space_Man | opera is now happy :) |
| SlavekB | You're welcome :) |
| MutantTurkey | howdy howdy howdy |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: hi |
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| Space_Man | hi MutantTurkey |
| Space_Man | firefox is now working |
| Space_Man | but picasa still crashes |
| Space_Man | that could be a wine problem |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: You can try to install gtk theme engine qtcurve and instead ot TDE theme engine choose qtcurve. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1372 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1372 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: videodev.h is renamed in newer versions of video4linux |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1376 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1376 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Stock theme thumbnails should be updated for branding issues |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1377 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1377 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konversation/Kopete (IRC) auto-join/identify priority |
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| n0b0dy | is there a way to get true transparency to work in konsole |
| n0b0dy | the compositor seems to work fine w/ other terminal apps |
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| MutantTurkey | happy new year! |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1378 filed by janjanjanx@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1378 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Changing resolution of secondary screen affects apps on primary screen. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1379 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1379 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok: creates a kmail rather than creating a normal backtrace |
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| Space_Man | come back SlavekB, I have a quiestion |
| MutantTurkey | I'm here :p |
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| nakazanieto | Hi! |
| YL3AIM | ^_^ |
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| nakazanieto | Somebody are here? |
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| Vasistha | is there a deb repository for r14 nightlies? |
| SlavekB | Of course. See http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/NightlyBuilds |
| MutantTurkey | Vasistha: and it's quite good ;) |
| Vasistha | thanks SlavekB MutantTurkey !! |
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| epitamizor | sweet a kde fork im checking it out now |
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| nakazanieto | Hej. |
| nakazanieto | or Hi ;-) |
| nakazanieto | Can i set qt4 theme in TDE? |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1369 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1369 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Memory leak into CUPS IPP processing function addStringList_p() |
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| MutantTurkey | nice |
| MutantTurkey | good work SlavekB |
| MutantTurkey | closing 1369 |
| MutantTurkey | will that make it into the second point release? |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1295 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1295 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: unnecessary and potentially harmful check in tdegraphics/kfile-plugins/dependencies/poppler-tqt/ConfigureChecks.cmake |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1301 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1301 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kghostview fails to compile in parallel mode e.g. -j2 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1311 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1311 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: ksvg fails to build due to it fails to found new fribidi headers |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1380 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1380 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail not recognizing SMTP protocol |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1380 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1380 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kmail not recognizing SMTP protocol |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1369 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1369 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Memory leak into CUPS IPP processing function addStringList_p() |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1369 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1369 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Memory leak into CUPS IPP processing function addStringList_p() |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1334 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1334 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KControl Monitor & Display module crash |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 469 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=469 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, soundkonverter-amarok-trinity dependicy problem |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1381 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1381 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpackage doesnt handle utf8 |
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| Space_Man | I noticed that tim is planning to release a .14 version, are you going to continue developing .13.2? |
| Space_Man | should I try .14 and stop using .13.2? |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: ^^ |
| SlavekB | I suppose - first I finish 3.5.13.2 and then I will work on the R14. |
| SlavekB | After all, everything I do in v3.5.13-sru branch, also applies to master branch - the R14. |
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| Space_Man | ok, I'll continue to use your branch and then in a few months test .14 |
| Space_Man | thanks |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1382 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1382 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDED Media Manager starts even when explicitly disabled |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1383 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1383 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail cannot connect to server for IMAP or DIMAP modes. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1384 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1384 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, groupware wizard crashes complaining about :cannot open shared object file |
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| skrzyp | Hiya again. |
| schreiberstein | skrzyp: hi there! |
| skrzyp | Do you have repo with TDE for Ubuntu Quantal? |
| MutantTurkey | err |
| MutantTurkey | slavek: ? |
| MutantTurkey | do we |
| MutantTurkey | does anyone here get the linux format? |
| skrzyp | wat? |
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| MutantTurkey | the magazine |
| MutantTurkey | someone mentioned it on the mailing list |
| skrzyp | In my country I only saw Linux Magazine and Linux+ |
| MutantTurkey | I've only heard of it breifly before |
| slavek | For Quantal: |
| slavek | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?field.series_filter=quantal&start=0&batch=150 |
| slavek | For Wheezy: |
| slavek | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?field.series_filter=wheezy&start=0&batch=150 |
| skrzyp | slavek: lol, thanks |
| skrzyp | but this server often resets and breaks connection |
| skrzyp | aptitude hangs up on "Waiting for headers" for couple of seconds |
| slavek | Yes. This is the "master" server, which has a slow connection. |
| slavek | Version for Quantal and Wheezy (indeed the whole 3.5.13.2) is not yet final, so it is not yet on the mirrors. |
| skrzyp | slavek How large is whole TDE repo? |
| skrzyp | Maybe I can host a mirror in Poland. |
| slavek | I estimate 50 - 100 GiB. |
| slavek | Note: For Wheezy version are reported some problems with Xine - in kaffeine and amarok. |
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| skrzyp | slavek: lol, 50-100GB with only TDE and apps? |
| skrzyp | I heard about main debian repo takes 100GB |
| SlavekB | My PPA which contains complete v3.5.13-sru branch have size approx 16 GiB. |
| skrzyp | huh |
| SlavekB | During builds can expand about 2×. |
| skrzyp | lol, apt-get returned with timeout |
| SlavekB | Nightly-builds have size approx 20 GiB. |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately I do not know how many have size RPM packages. |
| skrzyp | APT installs lots of unnecessary packages, so I will do a ride on aptitude for purging it from OS. |
| SlavekB | François is very active in adding other distributions :) |
| skrzyp | I don't need this bells and whistles... |
| SlavekB | I almost forgot the LiveCD images... |
| skrzyp | Yep. |
| skrzyp | I'd recommend general upgrade of LiveCD's |
| skrzyp | it may increase number of potential users :) |
| SlavekB | I recently prepare Ubuntu Precise images. |
| SlavekB | It's LTS and now the latest with official support TDE 3.5.13.1. |
| skrzyp | Continous Ubuntu spin-off with Trinity will be good. |
| skrzyp | Something about Tribuntu, lol |
| SlavekB | I watched that Tribuntu name already used by someone else. :'( |
| skrzyp | :( |
| skrzyp | Ubunitiniy? |
| skrzyp | TDEbuntu? |
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| SlavekB | Tim has a plan to prepare for automated service to create a LiveCD. |
| skrzyp | Yaaaaaaaay... |
| SlavekB | But it plans to R14. After all, that's why I'm prepare 3.5.13.1 images :) |
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| skrzyp | Removed 1,3GB bloat of default TDE installation. |
| skrzyp | lol. |
| SlavekB | I'm starting the installation by selecting ksmserver-trinity, and then the individual packages :) |
| skrzyp | I don't like this ConsoleKits, PolKits, and other crazy stuff |
| skrzyp | This is not exist 10 years ago, but pepole still works good with KDE3 |
| MutantTurkey | are there any trinity torrents? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: we should work on our installation, it seems it is not so easy :p |
| MutantTurkey | the linux format review was good, but also noted we needed work on that front |
| SlavekB | I know - my way of installation is not for normal users :) |
| skrzyp | SlavekB: I'm not a normal OOB user |
| skrzyp | I'd prefer 'make your desktop yourself" method |
| skrzyp | Before cleaning: 987 packages |
| skrzyp | After cleaning: 438 |
| skrzyp | Next fun fact: |
| skrzyp | Memory usage before cleaning [on boot]: ~200MB |
| skrzyp | Afrer cleaning: ~80MB |
| skrzyp | <3 |
| MutantTurkey | skrzyp: i never reboot |
| MutantTurkey | my memory usage is probably floating around 4gb |
| MutantTurkey | 60+ tabs open, to many terminals to count ,music, torrents, pdf's, documentation, bug reports |
| MutantTurkey | to much going on at once |
| skrzyp | WAT |
| MutantTurkey | yeah why not... with my desktop i don't care |
| MutantTurkey | my lappy boots maybe 100mb ram, few packages, but meh. this thing is a powerhorse |
| skrzyp | MutantTurkey: with this task, you can optimize your memory usage to about 1GB |
| MutantTurkey | what task? |
| skrzyp | trust me :) |
| skrzyp | tasks* |
| MutantTurkey | no motivation to though, I like having all my stuff at once... |
| skrzyp | but I'm huge memory-optimizing fan :) |
| MutantTurkey | heh like i said, my laptop is much more minimal |
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| rzs19 | Debian + Trinity = Trinian |
| rzs19 | skrzyp: sounds nice, do you have a package list, what you "cleaned"? A meta-packages would be nice "tde-lite" |
| rzs19 | just some core packages |
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| chmuri | hi there |
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| rzs19 | ola |
| chmuri | how much it space required for tinidekstop mirrro? |
| skrzyp | SlavekB: ping :> ^ |
| chmuri | skrzyp, masz szczęście że mają rsynca ale to jeszcze jest połowa skukcesu |
| skrzyp | chmuri: na pewno jest jakiś mechanizm do mirrorwania |
| skrzyp | wczoraj z nimi gadałem na ten temat |
| Space_Man | 12 hours ago "<slavek> I estimate 50 - 100 GiB" |
| chmuri | łooooooł |
| chmuri | big:P |
| skrzyp | huh |
| skrzyp | chmuri: did you have enough space for this on your cloud? |
| chmuri | yes but you know i have distributed network of vms |
| chmuri | and i need to consolidate space |
| Space_Man | you will receive a better response from the trinity mailing lists |
| SlavekB | Note: this was a direct response from Tim: |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3782 |
| chmuri | hmm i see |
| chmuri | hehe i dont even know what is trinity desktop but i like gnu project |
| chmuri | but there are no european mirror? |
| SlavekB | See Content Distribution on http://www.trinitydesktop.org/contributors.php |
| chmuri | ok |
| skrzyp | chmuri: you don't look on about secion at project page? :D |
| chmuri | skrzyp, no :) |
| skrzyp | chmuri: so, read it :D |
| skrzyp | and look at screenshots |
| chmuri | ok i see tde its x windows like kde based on 3.5 beacuse 4 its sucks:) |
| skrzyp | chmuri: right :D |
| skrzyp | chmuri: it's not 'like kde' |
| skrzyp | it's based on kde3.5 |
| skrzyp | and updated to support qt4, gtk3 and more new libraries |
| chmuri | i need to think personally i don user linux for desktop |
| skrzyp | chmuri: so, time to change :D |
| skrzyp | I had optimized my TDE on stripped down Ubuntu to load only 80MB of ram at boot |
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| Space_Man | I have 3 minor issues |
| Space_Man | 1) the toolbar in kate |
| Space_Man | 2) the users icon picture is missing |
| Space_Man | 3) konqueror spams about low space on the drive |
| Space_Man | the icons on kate's toolbar change after a file is opened or a different tab is clicked |
| Space_Man | it starts with about 20 icons, then 15 and settles on 10 |
| Space_Man | you can change the users picture in settings and .face.icon is created in your home dir |
| Space_Man | but it isn't used when you login |
| Space_Man | konqueror claims I have 0% space left, which is true |
| Space_Man | when I start up, something claims I have 0% space left, which is accurate |
| Space_Man | there are 2 options "start konq" or "cancel" |
| Space_Man | if I click on "star konq", konq starts and then tells me with another pop up that there is 0% space left, and there are 2 options |
| SlavekB | There's also "do not show next time"? :) |
| Space_Man | I can open lots of konquerors |
| Space_Man | the bug is, after clicking "start konq", konq should not check space left |
| SlavekB | Aha - interesting - I usually click to ignore, so I did not notice this behavior. |
| Space_Man | I don't like using those boxes |
| Space_Man | possibly next time I only have a few MB left and things could go wrong |
| Space_Man | the most annoying bug is the kate toolbar, is there a fix for .14? |
| SlavekB | I'm not aware that in the Kate for R14 was a fix that is not in 3.5.13-sru branch. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1385 filed by james@nurealm.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1385 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kicker-trinity missing dependency upon kcontrol-trinity |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: bug 801 is related to my kate problems |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=801 normal, P5, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, Icons in kate toolbar are not ordered |
| Space_Man | after deleting katepartui.rc from .trinity/share/apps/katepart/ the icons changing problem has gone |
| Space_Man | maybe I deleted it from ".trinity/share/apps/kate/" |
| * Space_Man can't remember | |
| SlavekB | I added a bug to my list of "favorites". :) |
| Space_Man | the text of the corrupt katepartui.rc http://paste.debian.net/222914/ |
| SlavekB | You've probably read my thoughts :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1386 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1386 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDED Write Daemon not working |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1387 filed by james@nurealm.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1387 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, off-by-one error in kweather station configuration |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1388 filed by james@nurealm.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1388 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, additional kicker dependencies - malformed URL "system:/" and "cannot open display" |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1378 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1378 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Changing resolution of secondary screen affects apps on primary screen. |
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| skrzyp | Jest godzina 6:51. |
| skrzyp | Dzień dobrt. |
| skrzyp | y*. |
| skrzyp | Whoopsie... |
| skrzyp | Sorry. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1378 from RESOLVED INVALID to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1378 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Changing resolution of secondary screen affects apps on primary screen. |
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| MutantTurkey | does anyone have libreoffice with trinity working? |
| SlavekB | I use LibreOffice without TDE integration. |
| MutantTurkey | does TIm provide it with the integration/ |
| MutantTurkey | I am getting sick of the crappy dialogs:p |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately I can not try it - when I looked, so packages were only for some Ubuntu. |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: you could package it :) |
| MutantTurkey | if you wanted to |
| SlavekB | If I understand correctly, it means build the whole LibreOffice. It is a bit challenging. |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | when you use tims quickbuild, the builds are on there right? |
| MutantTurkey | afaik the integration is set with a compile time flag |
| MutantTurkey | I imagine you could barrow the libreoffice spec from debians maintainers and add the tde flag |
| MutantTurkey | probably more pain thanit's worth |
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| SlavekB | I watched that when Tim built LibreOffice on the farm, at that moment were halted all other builds. |
| SlavekB | I do not know what would happen if I sent LibreOffice into my PPA :) |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
| MutantTurkey | it is rather big maybe |
| SlavekB | To think that it was built also for armel :) |
| SlavekB | KOffice for armel builds 36 hours. |
| SlavekB | How long would they build LibreOffice? :) |
| MutantTurkey | ahhh |
| MutantTurkey | wow |
| MutantTurkey | really? |
| MutantTurkey | probably slower because it's cross platform no? |
| SlavekB | The reason may be that it runs on a virtual armel - on my test machine in qemu I can not allocate more than 256 MiB RAM for armel machine. |
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| minde | hello, I need help |
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| minde | how to build tqt/qt ? |
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| minde | right now I am building with following options http://pastebin.lt/1791/raw/ |
| minde | of course got some errors building tdelibs http://pastebin.lt/1792/raw/ |
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| SlavekB | minde: You build development version - R14? |
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| minde | yes |
| minde | from git |
| SlavekB | In this case, not build qt3, but only tqt3. |
| minde | och, ok |
| SlavekB | It's either qt3 + tqt interface or tqt3 that has tqt interface built-in. |
| SlavekB | And for R14 is expected tqt3. |
| minde | ok, I understood, thanks |
| minde | SlavekB: hmz, now I have only tqt-mt :/ |
| minde | got it... -thread |
| minde | still the same, ld: cannot find -ltqt |
| minde | http://pastebin.lt/1794/raw/ |
| minde | http://pastebin.lt/1795/raw/ |
| minde | what I'm doing wrong? :/ |
| SlavekB | To build tdelibs you need tqt3, tqtinterface and arts. |
| SlavekB | Tqtinterface recognizes that it is built against tqt3 and adjusts accordingly to this. |
| minde | I have /opt/tde/lib/pkgconfig/tqt-mt.pc|tqt.pc but ld still fails |
| SlavekB | tqtinterface is builded against tqt3? Or it is previous build against qt3? |
| minde | yes tqtinterface is builded with tqt3 |
| minde | removed qt3 |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, now I have to go to a few hours away from the computer. |
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| pserru | SlavekB: Hi, Slàvek. I am running 12.04-TDE 3.5.13.1.... |
| pserru | What would you like me to do? |
| SlavekB | In /etc/apt/sources.list change the precise quantal... |
| SlavekB | ...and add a source for my ppa: |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu quantal main |
| SlavekB | Then perform the update: |
| SlavekB | apt-get update; aptitude dist-upgrade |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, now I have to go to a few hours away from the computer... |
| pserru | OK. Forget it. Thank anyway. |
| pserru | Thank you |
| SlavekB | It should be: In /etc/apt/sources.list change from precise to quantal. |
| SlavekB | ... and now I'm running away :) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1264 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1264 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow display changes in Control Center without root permissions |
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| DeeTah | hi guys |
| DeeTah | anyone using GPG with kmail there? |
| SlavekB | Yes, for signing messages. |
| DeeTah | i can't get it working. i used kgpg to generate a key but kmail won't accept it |
| DeeTah | while editing the identiy, the "OK" key is constantly greyed out, kinda forcing me to run kleopatra. |
| DeeTah | im new to gpg, do I really need a CA for it to work? |
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| SlavekB | Gpg is no need for certification authority. |
| DeeTah | so what might be the reason kmail won't accept my gpg keys? |
| DeeTah | could you help me figure out what you did for it to work? |
| SlavekB | If I remember correctly, in kgpg I had set that I trust fully to my key. |
| DeeTah | damn, i have it set as well |
| DeeTah | GpgME::Context: ignoring Valdidate keylist flag (gpgme too old). |
| DeeTah | that's what's in stdout of kmail |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1389 filed by ozerski@list.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1389 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, HAL daemon does not start on OpenSUSE 12.2 |
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| ubuntu__ | Hello |
| ubuntu__ | please help me for something |
| ubuntu__ | how to configurate my wifi network |
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| Guest86527 | i need manger or drivers ? |
| Guest86527 | i have kwifimanger |
| Guest86527 | but nothing found |
| Guest86527 | wlan0 is found |
| Guest86527 | no networks found |
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| chaosbg | heyyy |
| chaosbg | ??? |
| chaosbg | sudo apt-get install wicd |
| chaosbg | works fine |
| chaosbg | 'THANKS' :D |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1378 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1378 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing resolution of secondary screen affects apps on primary screen. |
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| MutantTurkey | on my way to Memphis |
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| Space_Man | on my way the kitchen for some more tea :P |
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| MutantTurkey | last minute my father mentions that our father son trip is being joined by my great aunt |
| MutantTurkey | who is 90 years old and a bit cheeky |
| MutantTurkey | so here I am in the back seat |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1390 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1390 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Krdc in readonly mode transmits keyboard input |
| Space_Man | MutantTurkey: that sounds like fun |
| MutantTurkey | Space_Man: but I gt an inverter for the car |
| MutantTurkey | so unlimited power |
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| kbuzz | hi, I have a bug where the font enlarges if I switch my kicker style. Any ideas? |
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| minde | hello, how I can compile tde-style-lipstik ? |
| minde | got some errors http://pastebin.lt/1813/raw/ |
| minde | autoreconf --force --install fixes, but now i have err: http://pastebin.lt/1814/raw/ |
| SlavekB | You can try: |
| SlavekB | cp -f /usr/share/libtool/config/ltmain.sh admin/ltmain.sh |
| SlavekB | cp -f /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4 admin/libtool.m4.in |
| SlavekB | make -f admin/Makefile.common cvs |
| SlavekB | And then the classical: ./configure ... |
| SlavekB | minde: You build for debian? |
| minde | nope, gentoo |
| SlavekB | Hmm, about state of packages for gentoo I do not have a clue. |
| minde | it works now, thank you |
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| SlavekB | I have no idea if there is something useful: |
| SlavekB | http://wiki.hasnoname.de/doku.php/tde:trinity-overlay_on_funtoo_gentoo |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1390 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1390 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Krdc in readonly mode transmits keyboard input |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1391 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1391 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Cannot access krandrtray icon |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1392 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1392 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Multi-part zip file support for Ark |
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| zaki | hello everyone :D |
| zaki | first time for me here. |
| zaki | best greetings for you all :D |
| zaki | it makes me happy to see this Trinity Desktop Environment project :D |
| zaki | i'm currently downloading the fedora 17 with TDE Live CD to try it on my desktop :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1393 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1393 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: several FTBFS building TDE 3.5.13.2 |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1262 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1262 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: several FTBFS building TDE 3.5.13.1 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1288 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1288 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, kdesktop_lock crashes or hangs |
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| darwin | will there be packages for Slackware 13.37, 14.0? |
| darwin | If not, I want to try to make some for 14.0 |
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| Space_Man_ | http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/sdeg/trinity_desktop.htm |
| Space_Man_ | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/SlackwareBinaryInstallation |
| Space_Man_ | darwin: some details about installing trinity on slackware |
| Space_Man_ | sadly I don't know anything about slackware :( |
| * Space_Man_ is a ubuntu user | |
| darwin | I had read that |
| Space_Man_ | oh |
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| zaki | is it required to install the EPEL package repository in CentOS to install TDE? |
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| darwin | I want to compile TDE. I went to the downloads page and the source packages mostly started with 'kde'... then I went to the build instructions page and it said the packages were renamed to start with 'tde.' Do I have the right source? |
| SlavekB | darwin: Source tarballs are for 'stable' branch, which has not yet been done renaming kde => tde. |
| darwin | ok |
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| darwin | I tried to build the first package (as described to not need a dependency,) tqinterface, but apparently its dependency is QT. Which version do I need? |
| SlavekB | You build stable version (v3.5.13.x) or development (R14)? |
| darwin | stable |
| darwin | I just install QT 3.3.8b, but I got an error |
| darwin | can I put it on pastebin? |
| darwin | installed |
| SlavekB | For stable version you need qt3 from Trinity sources. |
| darwin | ok, so I cannot use the QT 3.3.8b from Slackware? |
| SlavekB | QT3 from Trinity contains several updates. |
| darwin | ok |
| SlavekB | See |
| SlavekB | http://ppa2.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/redirect.php?file=releases/3.5.13.1/downloads.html |
| darwin | I see I have it from the source page |
| darwin | thanks; I just looked at it and will have to continue tomorrow |
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| darwin | i get some errors building your current QT3 |
| SlavekB | In the git module tde-packaging you can see what kind of options is used to build on Debian: |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/debian/squeeze/dependencies/qt3/debian/rules?h=origin/v3.5.13-sru |
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| darwin | I do not use Debian. Can I just put the error on Pastebin.com? |
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| doria | having some issues getting kicker to work correctly, and haven't been able to find any solutions on the web. Once I log into the desktop I am immediately bombarded with errors stating that the KDE Panel could not load and that I should check my installation. I attempted to restart kicker a few times, to no avail. I am not super proficient in knowing how to find the info needed to help, but I can tell you I am attempting to use TDE on Mandriva |
| doria | 2011. Also, that my laptop is very old (about 8 years). Any thoughts? |
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| SlavekB | Is installed just TDE or parallel to KDE3.x? Parallel instalation KDE3.x could be a source of confusion among libraries. |
| doria | parallel to kde4 |
| SlavekB | It should not be a problem. |
| doria | story of my life |
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| darwin | could I get a list of what environment variables are required to build QT3? |
| SlavekB | That's why I posted the link to the Debian rules - they are there to see the options which is used to build on Debian. Could they be useful for Slackware. |
| darwin | perhaps, but some of them are for Debian... there are tens of distros, so there really should be a generic list |
| darwin | I looked at that file and tried again... I think I got farther, but got some errors |
| darwin | the make error I got was: /tmp/SBo/qt3-3.5.13.1/bin/uic: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| darwin | I think it had compiled a lot of stuff before that |
| darwin | and 'find' shows no file matching "*lib*mt*" in the QT3 source... is this *another* unlisted dependency? |
| darwin | I read that it is a different package |
| darwin | oh, maybe it is not |
| darwin | maybe I need some more configure flags |
| darwin | I would like to know which are necessary--I do not want to upload a script with 50 configure flags and then have it turn out many are unnecessary |
| darwin | maybe I just need to try them all out |
| darwin | I am doing that now |
| darwin | but I see *tens* of configure options that are not in './configure --help' but seem to not necessarily be Debian ones |
| darwin | is './configure --help' up-to-date? |
| darwin | like for other libraries, X things, plugins, etc. |
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| darwin | I thiink I figured out which ones I will need, but I am wondering why there are so many not in the help that do not seem to be Debian options |
| darwin | like for graphics libraries, etc. |
| darwin | and can someone explain this one: -L/usr/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) ? |
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| DeeTah | hi guys |
| DeeTah | can I somehow force kdesudo not to ask me for password if sudo has NOPASSWD set? |
| DeeTah | nvm ;) |
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| Shdwdrgn | is there something going on with the connection at pearsoncomputing.net? |
| Shdwdrgn | I'm trying to push an old dekstop up to the trinity packages, and keep getting timeouts and long wait times |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1398 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1398 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Network Configuration claims "Unsupported Platform" |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1288 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1288 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kdesktop_lock crashes or hangs |
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| elcaset | that was the most brutal netsplit I've ever seen. It affected all of the freenode channels I'm in & none of the efnet ones. |
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| ds_shadof | hello, cant compile kkbswitch for trinity |
| ds_shadof | this app is must have for cant live without it |
| elcaset | ds_shadof: some people might be asleep now, but keep asking & maybe someone will have answers for you. |
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| Marius80 | hi |
| Marius80 | could anyone tell me, when R14 is going to be released? |
| Marius80 | SlavekB? |
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| Marius80 | hi |
| Marius80 | SlavekB? |
| Marius80 | Could anyone give me any information about the expected release date of R14? |
| Marius80 | actually I do have the feeling that there is no more development... is trinity about to die? |
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| elcaset | Marius80: no, TDE is not about to die. It is still in development. |
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| tbottu | 10martin.hodges@getmail.no changed the Status on bug 1383 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1383 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kmail cannot connect to server for IMAP or DIMAP modes. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1394 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1394 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, smserver often crash at exit which more opened applications left |
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| Hazuki | is there an up to date Gentoo overlay or set of ebuilds anywhere for trinity? kde-sunset has 3.5.10 and won't build |
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| * Strangelv is too unfamiliar with Gentoo to know where to look and is too out of the lop to know whom to ank | |
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| d33tah | hi guys |
| d33tah | is there a way to replace kdesktop with an application of my choice? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1410 filed by wangmengchang@foxmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1410 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, File selection dialog returns no file |
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| * Strangelv wonders what major problems presently exist for Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.1, especially with the LiveCDs | |
| Z_God | Strangelv: 12.04 is still buggier in general than 10.04 |
| Z_God | as for trinity, the layout switcher doesn't work with the standard 12.04 xorg |
| Strangelv | One of the main things I need is a liveCD that's more recent than Meerkat and 12.0 for a friend's machine who's half a continent away |
| Z_God | I put some fixes in a ppa to solve the problems I had with 12.04: https://launchpad.net/~julius-zgod/+archive/precise-fixes |
| Strangelv | Also, looking for a stable place to sit until I can figure out a migration path that will hopefully work with apt-get. I also nave a notebook that's powered up for the past several weks waiting for me to think of a solution. It has no bootable kernel and I'm unable to apt-get one. |
| Z_God | why not do-release-upgrade ? |
| Strangelv | "So this mwould be something to add to sources.list immediately |
| Strangelv | Thank you |
| Strangelv | "i've got at ]=n aptseg upgrade to 12.04 -- everything but the kernel. |
| Z_God | it solves the qt4 font rendering bugs for me |
| Strangelv | Which is wanting to use a phantom kernel that isn't even available anymore |
| Z_God | and the layout switching problem |
| Z_God | and hal stopped crashing |
| Z_God | but it's not tested much :) |
| Strangelv | Noted. So it's not ready to suggest that Rose use it yet. She's still using Meerkat and it's too late to do an iterative upgrade from it. |
| Z_God | meerkat was never an LTS right? |
| Z_God | most of my users are still on Lucid, it still gets updates |
| Strangelv | The idea was to install Meerkat and update it. Then it was 12+ months before it was possible to do so without migrating away from TDE |
| Z_God | better install lucid |
| Strangelv | For that I suspect she'd happily continue to stick to what she has installed. She didn't have previous Linux experience, mos-tly being afraid of running into the sort of exciting situations I have a nknack for wondering into |
| * Strangelv notes that there are problems with the new LiveCD and that he may want to look in here for a link to add to sources.list when he uses it anyway. Or is anyone doing a 11.10 LiveCD? | |
| Strangelv | Oneiric seems stable enough, but will eventually run into the same problem as Meerkat |
| Z_God | I don't think it makes sense to use a non-LTS release, especially in your case tbh |
| Strangelv | It's incrleasingly not making sense to use Ubuntu. is it possible to migrate to Linux Mint with a sources.list change and apt-get? |
| Z_God | mint is ubuntu I think |
| Strangelv | What are the main differences? |
| Z_God | I never used mint, so I don't know really |
| Strangelv | Understood. Thank you for your help. |
| Z_God | np! good luck, just write if you need more help, I am in a similar situation actually (supporting systems with Ubuntu+Trinity 2000 km away) |
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| elcaset | Z_God, Strangelv: mint is based on ubuntu, & very similar to it. I've had much better luck with mint than Ubuntu. Mint KDE4 has been my primary distro for years. I'm not the most technical user, so I don't know how much I can help, but I'll try. I'd love to see & use a live/installable Mint TDE. |
| Z_God | elcaset: what would be the difference between Mint TDE and Ubuntu with TDE if Mint is already based on Ubuntu? |
| * Strangelv is hopinsg for improved stability at a minimum | |
| Strangelv | Fewer change-du-jour decisions rammed down everyone's throats? |
| Strangelv | Possibly a move away from the assumption thal all of its users drank lead paint as children, although I suspect that decision might be more pronounced with Mint. What are some other ubuntu-based distros that could be painlessly bigrated to? |
| Strangelv | or migrated, as the case may be |
| Z_God | but as far as I know, mint is just a set of packages on top of ubuntu |
| Z_God | so none of these things could apply then |
| Z_God | it's all about polishing I think |
| Z_God | which is nice, but doesn't really make a difference when you're going to install your own DE anyway :) |
| Strangelv | There's still room for substantial differences. |
| Strangelv | What standard ubiquietous Ubuntu packages do they NOT include? |
| Strangelv | For example, whot if they used something other than PulseAudio? |
| Z_God | when they use the ubuntu repositories, they include all of them |
| Strangelv | Which i must admit is less frustrating than it used to be |
| Z_God | heh |
| Z_God | I recently removed pulseaudio everywhere |
| Z_God | and suddenly the audio quality was all good again |
| Strangelv | Which means you COULD install noxious-ubuntu-decision.deb if you wanted to, but that doesn't mean they've installed it for you or included it in any of their meta packages |
| Z_God | you can always remove ubuntu stuff as well |
| Strangelv | I'm bypassing tubs of Ubuntu stuff, starting with the telephone interface |
| Strangelv | There's more I could probably bypass that I wouldn't even think to look for that someone else may have made a sane, intelligent decision with |
| Strangelv | Some group of people sufficiently motivated that they made their own distro, just using Ubuntu as a base |
| Strangelv | Think most Debian-based distroes other than Ubuntu, which created a mess of conflictingly-named packages |
| Strangelv | Altough aside from that it was pretty implessive in 2005 when I migtated to Kubuntu from Libranet when the long awaited Libranet 3.0 permanantly ceased to be available from anywhere at any price after I finally had the money to buy a copy |
| Z_God | conflictingly-named packages? what do you mean? |
| Strangelv | ..4.and spoiled me becaues the stable version was never nightmarishly out of date and i didn't have to install the base libraries for the bleeding edge version because that's what everyone compiled their packages against |
| Strangelv | Dependancies that confluct but are the same thing so you can have one or the other. So installing DOSBox uninstalls your web development suite |
| Strangelv | and/or uninstalls the dependhancies for your video player |
| Z_God | I've never experienced this |
| Strangelv | It's easy: combine packages btewneen Debian and Ubuntu circa January 2006 |
| * Strangelv had been warned but Strangelv never listened to poor Zathras! | |
| Z_God | there's no point in doing that |
| Strangelv | "I couldn't find it in Ubuntu so I went with the repositories I was familiar with |
| Z_God | rebuilding a package is about 2 commands |
| Strangelv | And I need to learn dhow to do that one of these years |
| Strangelv | Not today. I'm more asleep than awake and am falling too far behind on too many higher priorities |
| Z_God | heh |
| Z_God | get the source, get the diff, apply it, run debuild -us -uc |
| Z_God | that's my formula ;) |
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| aguitel | anyway to install trinity in debian wheezy ? |
| Z_God | maybe the squeeze packages work, no idea |
| aguitel | Z_God, ok |
| elcaset | Strangelv> Fewer change-du-jour decisions rammed down everyone's throats? with Mint, yes. |
| elcaset | also Mint includes all the codecs people use including libdvdcss |
| elcaset | Mint has been more stable for me in general than Kubuntu. Also, when I add libdvdcss & some other codecs to a distro it doesn't always work. With mint, they come ready to go, & have always worked for me. |
| elcaset | Z_God^ |
| Z_God | elcaset: interesting |
| Z_God | you see less KDE4 crashes? |
| elcaset | I only use Mint KDE LTS releases. |
| Z_God | Kubuntu with KDE4 is just too crashy :S |
| elcaset | Z_God: ja, KDE 4 crashes are very rare. |
| Z_God | I should try it some time :) |
| elcaset | definitely :) |
| elcaset | The Mint releases made based on Ubuntu LTS are LTS, but they don't advertise it that way, so Mint 13, for instance is LTS. |
| Z_God | sounds good :) |
| Z_God | I wonder whether they actually fixed the qt4 font rendering |
| Z_God | it's still broken in 12.04 regular as far as I know |
| elcaset | prolly not, but idk |
| elcaset | how can I tell? |
| Z_God | here's the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990635 |
| elcaset | ok, I'll try to reproduce that here on mint 13 KDE |
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| elcaset | Z_God: I ran kdesudo kate to see what I could find. no mention of any cyrillic fonts. maybe they're not installed by default? |
| elcaset | I'll have to repost when you get back in here. |
| elcaset | oh, you are still here. |
| Z_God_Z | yeah, my system hung :S |
| Z_God_Z | why kdesudo btw? |
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| elcaset | that's what it showed her: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990635 |
| elcaset | *here |
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| Z_God | ah yeah |
| Z_God | weird he did that |
| Z_God | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/103620378/cyrillic_lucid_precise.png |
| Z_God | here's the pic I created which shows the problem |
| Z_God | and the file I used to create this shot: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/103620406/test-cyrillic |
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| elcaset | Z_God: that's 10.04, not 12.04 |
| Z_God | look carefully |
| Z_God | there are two kate windows in the screenshot |
| elcaset | yes, I see both Kate windows. one is from 10.04 VM, & one is from 12.04? |
| Z_God | yes |
| elcaset | huh, strange |
| Z_God | yeah |
| elcaset | I suppose I would have to install some cyryllic fonts to see if I can find out. |
| elcaset | *cyrillic |
| Z_God | normally they are installed by default |
| elcaset | aha |
| Z_God | what happens when you open the test-cyrillic file? |
| elcaset | i was just trying to do that, but Iidk where to open the file. enter a command in konsole? |
| Z_God | you do not have kate installed? |
| elcaset | kate is installed |
| Z_God | if you open it with some Qt4 program, the problem will or will not show up |
| Z_God | you should be able to open the file in kate then |
| elcaset | how? |
| Z_God | file -> open |
| Z_God | then paste the URL |
| elcaset | paste the url into kate? |
| Z_God | into the file open dialog |
| elcaset | ah, ok |
| Z_God | you can also save it and then open it, it's just a normal text file |
| elcaset | ok, i'm looking at it know |
| elcaset | *now |
| Z_God | does it look similar to one of the kate windows in my shot? :) |
| elcaset | yes |
| Z_God | which one? |
| elcaset | it is not displaying any cyrillic looking I letters |
| Z_God | probably still broken then |
| elcaset | actually, it's slightly different from both |
| Z_God | do you also get the strange spacing? |
| Z_God | if you can upload a screenshot, I can say what's correct & what's not |
| elcaset | i don't have any cloud accounts for that. is there an easy way to do that? |
| Z_God | dunno really |
| elcaset | google docs or something? |
| Z_God | that should work |
| elcaset | i'll see if i can do that. |
| Z_God | just make it public there and copy-paste the URL |
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| elcaset | https://docs.google.com/file/d/0By_w-Xhp-w65c2c5a1dyTlJqaWc/edit?usp=sharing |
| elcaset | Z_God: let me know if you can see that screenshot. |
| Z_God | that's working :) |
| Z_God | it looks great on your system :) |
| Z_God | I do not see any differences with my shot of 10.04 actually |
| Z_God | thanks a lot, now I'm really going to try mint |
| Z_God | I guess they cleaned up more ubuntu bugs :) |
| elcaset | Z_God: awesome! good to know. |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
| Z_God | hi! |
| Borg^Queen | lol Hi! |
| Z_God | elcaset: yeah, it'll even make sense to put Trinity on a Mint KDE4 system then (or just add the Mint repositories), to get all the bugfixes :) |
| elcaset | Z_god: very kuhl. would it work to have TDE & KDE4 installed together/ Because that would be really nice. |
| Z_God | should be np I think |
| elcaset | nice. |
| Z_God | if you have a mint version that's Ubuntu Precise under the hood, just follow the Precise instructions from the Trinity site |
| elcaset | please let us know If you end up making a live/installable version of Mint with TDE. |
| Z_God | unlikely |
| elcaset | ok |
| Z_God | I almost always install with the alternate cd |
| Z_God | without any DE |
| Z_God | then I add TDE |
| elcaset | ah, ok. |
| elcaset | that's more likely to cause problems, in my experience. |
| Z_God | what do you mean? |
| Z_God | there isn't really any cleaner way to install |
| elcaset | in theory, yes, but in practice, I've found it to be more likely to be messed up. |
| elcaset | but if it works for you, do it. |
| Z_God | what kind of problems did you have? |
| elcaset | i don't remember exactly, it's been so long since i've tried to add KDE after installing the OS 1st. |
| elcaset | but it was pretty bad. |
| Z_God | seems something went wrong with the package manager |
| elcaset | ja, maybe dependencies, or something. |
| Z_God | maybe it's also different that I do a commandline only install |
| elcaset | could be. |
| Z_God | it should all just work though |
| elcaset | you're an optimist :) |
| Z_God | if something breaks |
| Z_God | it's a bug |
| Z_God | but the idea is that you can install all DEs at the same time |
| elcaset | is it better to install all DEs at the same time instead of one first, then use it a while, then install another/ |
| Z_God | it shouldn't matter |
| Z_God | but if you really want to mess a lot with packages |
| Z_God | you should get familiar with the package manager |
| Z_God | know the difference between removing and purging for instance |
| elcaset | aha |
| elcaset | can you do that with synaptic, or only with cli? |
| Z_God | I never really used synaptic, so I can't say much about it |
| elcaset | ok |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1411 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1411 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdescreensaver-xsavers not "hooking" xscreensavers |
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| Space_Man | W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net_slavek-banko_axis_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_source_Sources Hash Sum mismatch |
| SlavekB | Space_Man: I'm just doing the update of several packages - please try again later. |
| Space_Man | thanks SlavekB |
| Space_Man | I will try later |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1288 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1288 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, kdesktop_lock crashes or hangs |
| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1412 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1412 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TQCA-TLS not recognized by Kopete |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1413 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1413 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Restore 'Custom' session option to login manager |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1413 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| Space_Man | hi SlavekB, I've just updated and something odd has happened |
| Space_Man | there are some extra icons on the desktop |
| Space_Man | all owned by root |
| SlavekB | If you perform an update logged in desktop, so it is necessary to logout / login. |
| Space_Man | they're in /opt/trinity/share/apps/kdesktop/Desktop |
| SlavekB | Apparently these are just temporary icons from the update process. |
| elcaset | could that be a security problem? |
| Space_Man | these are the updates http://paste.debian.net/238561/ |
| Space_Man | I will log out and in |
| SlavekB | I would think not. This is a duplication of existing icons? |
| Space_Man | the only duplicate on my desktop is the trash icon/shortcut |
| Space_Man | these are the icon names Printers.dpkg-tmp Web_Browser.dpkg-tmp My_Computer.dpkg-tmp My_Network_Places.dpkg-tmp Trash.dpkg-tmp My_Documents.dpkg-tmp |
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| Space_Man | woo hoo, the icons have gone |
| elcaset | nice |
| SlavekB | During unpacking updated package icons are named *.dpkg-tmp - and kdesktop notice them and displayed. |
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| * Strangelv looks at his huge list of entries for apt-get dist-upgrade and wonderes if there's a painless way to upfgrade everything except firefox, which he does n't want to restart right now | |
| * Strangelv resorts to using Kate to edit and remove the line breaks | |
| SlavekB | Strangelv: You can use 'hold' to stick firefox on current version. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1145 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1145 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: bibletime FTBFS on Mageia 2 |
| Strangelv | If that's tinkering with configurations that's not painless. Especialyl when I only want to postpone updating it until I shut it down or it crashes or something causes a reboot |
| Strangelv | Firefox is the only application I know of that gets destabilized in Linux when updated while running |
| Strangelv | "It's not convenient. |
| Strangelv | Thatk you for stomping 1145. 8) |
| Strangelv | lme isn't familiar with it, but is glod to see another bug out of the way |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1260 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1260 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: bibletime requires an old version of clucene |
| SlavekB | I am also glad for every closed bug :) |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1260 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1260 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: bibletime requires an old version of clucene |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1408 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1408 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Konqueror icon view flickering |
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| Topo | hi |
| Topo | when do you release the TDE version for Fedora18? |
| Topo | eh? |
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| Space_Man | Topo: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::4664 |
| Space_Man | Topo: please come back |
| Space_Man | Topo: where are you? |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1408 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1408 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror icon view flickering |
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| lodger | hello |
| lodger | When do you release a Fedora 18 version of TDE? |
| Space_Man | lodger: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::4664 |
| lodger | thanks Space_Man! but when do you release TDE 3.5.13.2? in October 2013? |
| Space_Man | no, TDE 3.5.13.2 could be out in 1 or 2 months |
| Space_Man | you can use 3.5.13.2 now |
| Space_Man | but it is still being developed, there was a minor problem wednesday |
| Space_Man | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::10866 |
| Space_Man | "... the official release 3.5.13.2. I estimate second half of March." |
| lodger | \o/ |
| Space_Man | wait for SlavekB to return and ask him |
| lodger | who is SlavekB? |
| Space_Man | he's doing the 3.5.13.1 release |
| Space_Man | d'oh |
| Space_Man | he's doing the 3.5.13.2 release |
| lodger | ah ok |
| lodger | bye |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1408 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1408 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror icon view flickering |
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| * Strangelv looks at tbottu's declaration and applauds | |
| * SlavekB just uploaded an updated qt3 package to ppa :) | |
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| * Strangelv : root@Doomsday:~# apt-get install libqt3-mt | |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1200 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1200 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdelibs: KDE4 is running |
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| -adams.freenode.net- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 910 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=910 normal, P1, ---, mutantturkey, ASSIGNED, Konqueror: Add check box to control mouse wheel cycling over tab bar |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 895 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=895 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror tabs - close tab not shown on hover / Advanced tab setting broken |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1268 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1268 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror: No GUI control exists for controlling whether to display archives as folders |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1067 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1067 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Konqueror: Tab popup context menu does not include Move Tab Left/Right options |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1245 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1245 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, KDM displays garbage |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1317 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1317 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Add GUI control box to control behavior of the Alt key |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1323 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1323 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Add GUI control to configure menu popup delay |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1324 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1324 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Add mouse double-click test area in KControl->Peripherals->Mouse->Advanced |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1349 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1349 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Make keyboard delay easier to make match any common BIOS setting (a multiple of 50) |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1361 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1361 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror provides no GUI control to ignore favicons |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1296 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1296 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KControl: Provide GUI check box control for tdmrc AllowRootLogin |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1413 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1413 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Restore 'Custom' session option to login manager |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1269 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1269 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: libtqt-perl builds smoke support even when tdebindings has that support |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1259 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1259 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, gtk-qt-engine: Change cache file location |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1215 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1215 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kpdf: No mechanism to disable/control kpdf metadata |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1322 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1322 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, ksim crashes when configuration dialog launched. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1256 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1256 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Quanta "Missing Apps" incorrect links |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1179 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1179 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Obsolete link in Kmail OpenPGP passphrase dialog |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1360 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1360 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Akregator provides no GUI control to disable automatic loading of images |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1263 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1263 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Amarok: db-setup links in first run wizard need fixed |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 878 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=878 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: applications/twin-style-crystal - confirm/update git source to 1.0.7 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1414 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1414 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt3/tqt3: Add more information to tqWarning to help debug origin. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1363 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1363 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdebase fails to build when demangle.h is not installed |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1414 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1414 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, qt3/tqt3: Add more information to tqWarning to help debug origin. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1414 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1414 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, qt3/tqt3: Add more information to tqWarning to help debug origin. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1352 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1352 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kradio3: radio presets are obsoletes |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1287 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1287 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kmail does not honor the "Forever" option when accepting ssl certificates |
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| frankko | is there an ubuntu package for polyester in any of the tde repos? |
| frankko | if not, is it still possible to make it from source or is it incompatble somehow? |
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| * Strangelv looks up polyester. Polyester widget style for KDE4. Strangelv doesn't know what would be involved with porting it, but he's probabyl the wrong person to attempt to answer most questions here. | |
| frankko | Strangelv: No not the KDE4 style, The kde3 style. First time i tried TDE i could just use the binaries from hardy heron to install the polyester style (manually ofcourse iexctracted the files to their proper tde directories instead of into the default install paths) |
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| Strangelv | "When was Polyester last observed in the wild? Someone lost track of it possibly? |
| Strangelv | :: obviously needed to finish typing a few seconds earlier |
| Strangelv | "Not bundled, separate. Okay. That would make it easier to lose track of |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1287 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1287 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, kmail does not honor the "Forever" option when accepting ssl certificates |
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| Juanito_Fulencia | I added a modeline to get my second monitor supported, and it worked. But the image is just a little to wide so it goes outside the monitor to the left. How do i i solve this? |
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| * Strangelv needs to experiment with multiple monitors one of these years. | |
| * Strangelv recaps the help request so SlavekB can see it | |
| * Strangelv : <Juanito_Fulencia> I added a modeline to get my second monitor supported, and it worked. But the image is just a little to wide so it goes outside the monitor to the left. How do i i solve this? | |
| SlavekB | xrandr -q gives good results for both monitors? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE 3.5 bug 1415 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1415 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok crashes immediately after startup |
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| rzs19 | hey SlavekB |
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| BoraxMan | Question... Is Trinity going to be availabe for Fedora 18? |
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| SlavekB | rzs19: I am now busy (at work) |
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| * Strangelv wonders if the answel for the Fedora 18 question is handy somewhere. It seems to be the #1 frequently asked question right now | |
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| rzs19 | any idea, why tde-applications are slow, when using over Xpra (xpra.org)? xterm, firefox are responsible. |
| rzs19 | antoher problem is kmail, something is fucked up with imap, sometimes this trying to fetch mails from imap and is not responing, just a pending progressbar. The provider is gmail. |
| rzs19 | any idea, whats going on? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1416 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1416 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] KMines - incorrect handling of pixmap |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1416 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1416 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, [Regression] KMines - incorrect handling of pixmap |
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| JotaMG | Hi Slavek !! |
| JotaMG | I used to run Compiz with Kde 3.5.10 |
| JotaMG | There is a compiz-trinity_0.8.4-1ubuntu7_all.deb, but it is for squeezy... |
| JotaMG | can you please compile the |
| JotaMG | http://trinity.motivewellbeing.org/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian/pool/main/c/compiz-trinity/compiz-trinity_0.8.4-1ubuntu7.tar.gz |
| JotaMG | for TDE 3.5.13.2 on Wheezy ?? |
| JotaMG | Many thanks in advance |
| JotaMG | what I really need to make Compiz work with Trinity, is only 'compiz-kde-trinity', but compiled for the most recent Trinity on Wheezy |
| JotaMG | SlavekB: are you there ? |
| SlavekB | Moment, I am now very busy... |
| JotaMG | ok |
| JotaMG | If everything works, I can then post the intsructions how to make compiz work with Trinity... maybe other people are interested too...?? |
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| SlavekB | JotaMG: The problem is that compiz is not included in Wheezy. |
| JotaMG | yes, but that is not a problem... |
| JotaMG | and, there is still a discussion going on to include it when wheezy is final |
| JotaMG | one just need to enable the unstable repo, install compiz and disable again |
| JotaMG | no dependency problem!! |
| JotaMG | very clean |
| JotaMG | and, as I said, the only thing needed is the kde window decorator |
| JotaMG | compiled for trinity 3..5.13.2 on wheezy |
| JotaMG | compiz-kde-trinity |
| JotaMG | should not be too complicated ? |
| SlavekB | Aha - I mistakenly thought that the package compiz-trinity depends on something from compiz. Now I look at it... |
| JotaMG | yeah :-) |
| SlavekB | I'll try to prepare it for the next update. |
| JotaMG | many thanks... I will try it! right now i'm using the GTK window decorator, |
| JotaMG | by the way... is ther any way to be able to mount the local HD disk partitions as a normal user ?? |
| JotaMG | on konqueror "Storage Media", I mean?? |
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| elcaset | looks like a great petition, & effort: http://www.weheartwifi.com/ I signed it. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1416 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1416 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] KMines - incorrect handling of pixmap |
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| tbottu | 10linux@rainbow-software.org changed the Status on bug 1121 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1121 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Wanted: kio_ftps |
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| Marius80 | hi :) |
| Marius80 | anyone around? |
| Marius80 | I wondered, weather or not R14 will ever come up? |
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| Zombiak | hi |
| Space_Man | hi |
| Zombiak | how i can rebuild an application from trinity desktop? |
| Space_Man | I don't know |
| Space_Man | sorry |
| Zombiak | included version of ktechlab-trinity has bug which is already fixed [http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=493692] |
| Zombiak | but when i downloaded src of that package from git |
| Zombiak | i cant find any build scripts |
| Zombiak | it probably relies on build system of tde or smth |
| Zombiak | but i just installed tde for that app so i have no idea how to manage it |
| Zombiak | and sorry for my english, i know its bad |
| SlavekB | Zombiak: You need also git submodules 'admin' and 'cmake'. |
| SlavekB | see http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/admin/ and http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/cmake/ |
| SlavekB | Debian packaging files are in separate git repository - for example: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/debian/squeeze/applications/ktechlab/debian |
| * SlavekB now go away for a few hours... | |
| Zombiak | it turns out i cant compile it anyway, ./configure gives me: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 4.3 and < 5.0) (library QtCore -lQtGui -lQtNetwork -ltqt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! |
| Zombiak | and im not very suprised because i have libqt3-mt in system, not qt-mt |
| Zombiak | but there is no such package in repo for ubuntu quantal |
| Zombiak | libtqt3-mt* tqt-mt* i mean |
| Zombiak | yeah, it finally builds |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1417 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1417 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Two tdeio package conflicts |
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| SlavekB | Zombiak: You build a package for 3.5.13.x or for R14? |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1417 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1417 critical, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, Two tdeio package conflicts |
| Zombiak | SlavekB: i have nightly so i guess is R14, but i havent build that, because some issues with libtool i cant resolve |
| Zombiak | because of version mismatch i had to run libtoolize and autoconf (im not sure what these two actually do) |
| Zombiak | but generated script is incorrect, libtool is using undleclared variable |
| Zombiak | $to_tool_file_cmd |
| Zombiak | and i have no idea what it should contain to fix it |
| Zombiak | maybe its lame but i have no experience with these linux build systems :/ |
| SlavekB | If it helps, you can use for building the source Debian / Ubuntu package. |
| Zombiak | thx, i will try it later because its enought for me for a while ;) |
| Zombiak | holly sh*t, it just compilled :D i cant belive ;] |
| Zombiak | and patch works, its not crashing anymore |
| Zombiak | thank you again |
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| Necrosporus | Why are there some Eskimos letters on the menu of Ubuntu + Trinity livecd? |
| Necrosporus | And why doesn't it start X by default? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1418 filed by mpartap@gmx.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1418 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KSVGIconPainter::drawPath choking on qpdfview.svg: kicker cpu-spikes, X11 freezes |
| SlavekB | Zombiak: If I understand correctly, this is a one-line fix from "m_map = new ETMap( m_size );" to "m_map = new ETMap( m_size, std::vector( m_size ) );" ? |
| SlavekB | Necrosporus: You mean the Ubuntu 12.04 LiveCD with TDE 3.5.13.1? |
| Necrosporus | Yes |
| Necrosporus | i386 to be more specific |
| Zombiak | SlavekB: yeah, and thats in file /ktechlab/src/electronics/simulation/matrix.cpp |
| Zombiak | actually ktechlab included in trinity is pretty old, its from 2005 but last version from line .3 is from 2009 |
| SlavekB | Zombiak: Thank you. I can commit this fix into the GIT. |
| SlavekB | Necrosporus: If I remember correctly, I tested both amd64 and i386 version. And I do not know about the problems. |
| Necrosporus | SlavekB, the very boot, press any key while the logo appears |
| Necrosporus | very start |
| Necrosporus | When you see purple background with two icons at bottom |
| SlavekB | I'll try it later. |
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| SlavekB | Zombiak: First, I incorporate this patch (to be also in upcoming 3.5.13.2) and later we can try update ktechlab to newer version. |
| Necrosporus | SlavekB, also it doesn't start X.org by default, showing off only a console where I have had to type startx |
| SlavekB | I tried now in a virtual machine - truly in grub are strange letters. However Xorg for me started correctly. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1419 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1419 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] 'dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface quit' does not kill process |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1397 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1397 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, Empty panel in kconfig and empty page in konqueror settings |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1417 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1417 critical, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Two tdeio package conflicts |
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| Necrosporus | SlavekB, so it's probably low amount of ram (512 M) was not enough or something, but for me, DE was not started until I typed startx |
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| SlavekB | Necrosporus: I set the virtual machine to allocate only 512 MiB RAM and without any problems boot directly to TDE session. |
| Necrosporus | SlavekB, then I do not know what happened, but when I booted ubuntu on such a machine, I got only console first and runned TDE only by typing startx. Maybe I should try booting it again? |
| Necrosporus | And what do you think about Kanadian letters in boot menu which you observed? That's writing of northern people living in Canada for long time before European came there as far, as I recognized it |
| SlavekB | Press F2 - there you can change the language. During the preparation of the next images I'll be careful to set the default language to English. :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1420 filed by f_ii@email.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1420 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity help center: cannot build the search index (Can't exec "beagle-config": No such file or directory at /opt/trinity/bin/khc_beagle_index.pl line 19.) |
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| alexbobp | I have uncovered a pretty bad konsole bug present in 3.5.13.1 |
| alexbobp | it's a Yiddish unicode character that causes the terminal to hardlock and use 100% cpu |
| alexbobp | (also present in Yakuake, where I found it) |
| alexbobp | would anybody like the character? I don't want to paste it here in case you are all using irssi in konsole like I was |
| alexbobp | here's a paste: http://pastebin.com/0M28HNrf |
| alexbobp | anyways I'm wondering if anyone with later or dev versions wants to try to reproduce |
| alexbobp | if nobody responds I will go ahead with filing a bug report soon |
| SlavekB | alexbobp: I copied your character from pastebin into my konsole and have not noticed anything strange. |
| alexbobp | SlavekB: huh.... what version? |
| SlavekB | 3.5.13.2 prerelease |
| alexbobp | ah, okay. hmm. |
| alexbobp | could be it's fixed then |
| alexbobp | know when 3.5.13.2 will be out? |
| SlavekB | I expected at the end of March. |
| SlavekB | However, the more real it looks rather to the first or second week in April. |
| alexbobp | aight |
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| alexbobp | maybe it helps to say I'm on 64 bit debian |
| SlavekB | I tested on the 32bit version. When I get to work, I'll try on 64bit. |
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| rzs19 | SlavekB: is TDE 3.5.13.2 ready for testing under wheezy? |
| SlavekB | Yes: |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?field.series_filter=wheezy&start=0&batch=150 |
| rzs19 | And what is with klaptop, is it necessary to compile the kernel with legacy acpi battery (or how it's called) support? |
| SlavekB | Apparently so. |
| rzs19 | why is network-manager-kde-trinity removed? |
| SlavekB | Because it is not compatible with networkmanager9 in Wheezy. |
| rzs19 | so no "nativ" network-manager frontend? |
| rzs19 | and what is with TDE R14? |
| rzs19 | working network manager gui and battery display? |
| SlavekB | Yes, R14 contains the new NetworkManager interface. |
| rzs19 | and how usable is it atm? |
| rzs19 | i know its a bad question. |
| rzs19 | but i hope you have a better overview. |
| SlavekB | All questions are bad now because I need to travel to work ;) |
| rzs19 | travel? far far away? :P |
| SlavekB | Just about an hour :) |
| rzs19 | damn long. |
| rzs19 | i just need 15 minutes :) |
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| alexbobp | anybody on 3.5.13.1 on x64? |
| alexbobp | who can try to reproduce an issue |
| alexbobp | the test is simple: paste this character into a konsole instance you don't care about: http://pastebin.com/0M28HNrf |
| alexbobp | whoah, I just tested at work and didn't have the bug... |
| alexbobp | so maybe I should also specify ubuntu |
| alexbobp | er I mean debian |
| alexbobp | ubuntu is where I *don't* see it |
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| rtwhrt | hi |
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| elcaset | hi rtwhrt |
| * rtwhrt (^_^) / | |
| rtwhrt | trinity tde, go to the compiz? |
| elcaset | I don't use compiz, so i don't know. |
| rtwhrt | thx |
| elcaset | someone else here will know. |
| rtwhrt | ok |
| elcaset | yep |
| rtwhrt | I'm going to work later in the evening, I'll be back |
| * rtwhrt (^_^) / | |
| elcaset | ah, very good |
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| SebastianM | hi :) |
| SebastianM | anyone around? |
| SebastianM | SlavekB? |
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| rtwhrt | hi |
| Z_God | rtwhrt: hi |
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| rtwhrt | trinity tde, go to the compiz? |
| Z_God | to the compiz? |
| rtwhrt | compiz effect |
| Z_God | what' |
| Z_God | sorry |
| Z_God | what's with it? |
| rtwhrt | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDSE9exZoxA |
| rtwhrt | compiz fusion |
| Z_God | I know about it yes |
| Z_God | but what is your question? |
| rtwhrt | to go to the effect trinity desktop? |
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| Z_God | you can run compiz with trinity |
| rtwhrt | thy |
| rtwhrt | thx |
| rtwhrt | Hungarian language support? |
| rtwhrt | hu |
| rtwhrt | utf-8 |
| Z_God | should be there |
| Z_God | which languages do you know btw? |
| rtwhrt | hungarian. |
| rtwhrt | HU |
| SebastianM | Z_God, could you please tell me when R14 is coming out? |
| Z_God | SebastianM: there were some messages on the mailinglist about it |
| Z_God | I think it'll be out around summer |
| SebastianM | Z_God, will current releases of Ubuntu be supported then? |
| SebastianM | I cannot stand KDE4 any more |
| Z_God | you should be able to run Ubuntu Precise with Trinity |
| rtwhrt | trinity-desktop - C++ ? |
| SebastianM | precise is really old, I need newer software on my system |
| Z_God | precise is the latest LTS version of ubuntu |
| SebastianM | running ubuntu quantal at the moment |
| Z_God | there are packages for quantal I think |
| Z_God | rtwhrt: yes, TDE is completely written in C++ |
| SebastianM | what, really? maybe I missed something |
| SebastianM | one moment please |
| rtwhrt | Z_God: thx |
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| SebastianM | Z_God, yep, you are right, just checked my own notes I wrote down |
| Z_God | rtwhrt: it's a fork of KDE 3.5, KDE was and is also fully written in C++ |
| SebastianM | Z_God, it really worked, but there was no network manager |
| SebastianM | and I was not able to use wifi |
| Z_God | yes, same with precise |
| Z_God | you have to use the gnome applet |
| rtwhrt | ok |
| SebastianM | Z_God, what is its name? |
| rtwhrt | I will make a try to arch linux |
| SebastianM | Z_God, will I need a whole gnome installation for that? |
| Z_God | SebastianM: something like network-manager-gnome I think |
| Z_God | no, just the applet |
| Z_God | and some dependencies |
| Z_God | it shouldn't be too much |
| SebastianM | Z_God, are you running this? |
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| Z_God | yep |
| SebastianM | Z_God, not sure if it is asked for too much, but could you *please* make a screenshot of your screen with the gnome network manager running? |
| SebastianM | just to have the chance to get an idea of what it could look like |
| Z_God | SebastianM: should be np, one mom |
| SebastianM | thank you very, very much |
| Z_God | SebastianM: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xuwNoMRu7hQ/UU4xlDKLaeI/AAAAAAAABos/WXYhusFFodU/s1648/gnome_networkmanager_tde.png |
| Z_God | I just took a quick shot |
| SebastianM | Z_God, thank you very much!! |
| Z_God | I removed all the TDE gtk stuff |
| SebastianM | Question: what tray icon (next to the clock) represents the network manager of gnome? |
| Z_God | because it doesn't really seem to be stable |
| Z_God | the one next to the Konversation icon |
| SebastianM | Z_God, sorry, I really need to ask: |
| SebastianM | russian youtube, dutch network names, german real name |
| SebastianM | ...? |
| Z_God | I'm dutch, my name is german, but I'm learning russian ;) |
| Z_God | but that icon is kinda weird actually |
| Z_God | it changed a while ago after some ubuntu updates |
| SebastianM | lol I see :) I am german (austrian) |
| SebastianM | what is the problem with the gtk stuff? |
| SebastianM | maybe I should know before installing |
| Z_God | there'll be a kgtk package and another theming package |
| Z_God | they both cause crashes with gtk applications |
| SebastianM | so I cannot run evolution for example? |
| Z_God | it works, but the appearance will be plain |
| SebastianM | how can I imagine "plain" ? |
| SebastianM | whatever, I will just install it and hope for the best |
| Z_God | what you saw with the networkmanager dialog in the shot |
| SebastianM | by the way: do you think TDE will "survive" the next couple of years? Let's say... the next 5 years? I got the feeling, that there are only 2 or 3 developers keeping TDE alive, few people waiting for it, and nobody talking about it :(( |
| SebastianM | actually I love it, but I am afraid of the future |
| SebastianM | I really do not want to loose kde 3 (tde) |
| Z_God | yeah I don't know it either |
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| Z_God | it's quite amazing how much the main dev seems to manage |
| SebastianM | they really seem to work hard |
| Z_God | but the next major release keeps slipping |
| SebastianM | Z_God, sorry, what does that mean? (cannot understand that phrase) |
| Z_God | I mean that R14 was originally planned around August initially |
| Z_God | and later on around now I think |
| Z_God | and now I guess it won't be out before summer |
| Z_God | but I haven't been involved much lately either |
| SebastianM | August is summer?! |
| SebastianM | or do you mean august 2012 ? |
| Z_God | I meant August 2012 |
| SebastianM | ohhh I see |
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| Z_God | my family name is actually Austrian too btw :) |
| SebastianM | hopefully it will come out at all |
| SebastianM | when did your family move to the netherlands? |
| SebastianM | Z_God, interested in visiting your country? I can offer you a bed (couchsurfing style) |
| Z_God | we're talking about hundreds of years then |
| Z_God | thanks, that's really kind :) |
| SebastianM | and I live in the capital (vienna) - so if you are interested... |
| Z_God | I've been to Vienna before yeah, it's a nice place :) |
| Z_God | and there is a square there too |
| SebastianM | heh :) |
| Z_God | some relatives there, I don't know ;) |
| Z_God | as for the release, all the code is public |
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| Z_God | as long as someone would keep a mirror, it would never be really lost |
| SebastianM | Z_God, well, we cannot use Ubuntu 12.04 for the rest of our lives |
| SebastianM | lifes? |
| SebastianM | yep, lifes should be the right one |
| Z_God | I ran the oneiric package on precise before there were precise packages ;) |
| SebastianM | oh... |
| SebastianM | what about my currect ubuntu version? |
| SebastianM | can I also run a nightly build ? |
| Z_God | there are R14 nightly builds yep |
| Z_God | you could try those |
| SebastianM | is it risky? |
| Z_God | I would otherwise recommend the 13.2 packages |
| Z_God | I haven't tried them in a while |
| Z_God | last time I did, they were really broken |
| SebastianM | 13.2 ? where are they? |
| Z_God | but that is several months ago |
| SebastianM | btw. I find the website very bad documented |
| Z_God | I think on the wiki it should say |
| Z_God | slavek has his own ppa with them |
| Z_God | but when I ran oneiric packages on precise, I had to recompile 1 or 2 packages for it to work |
| SebastianM | that's that I mean, there is no link in the menu of the website |
| Z_God | so that is not really recommened |
| SebastianM | just downloading a vbox image of ubuntu |
| SebastianM | let's see what happens |
| Z_God | the site has two separate 'bars' to different pages |
| Z_God | it doesn't make sense to me either |
| SebastianM | where is the repo of slavek to use on 12.10? |
| SebastianM | you can tell the guys I can help them with the website, that's my profession |
| Z_God | maybe you could send an e-mail to the mailing list? |
| Z_God | I think it would be really appreciated |
| SebastianM | ok, I can do so |
| Z_God | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dependencies/ubuntu/dists/ |
| Z_God | nightly builds seem to go up to raring even |
| Z_God | but they are not that stable yet I guess |
| SebastianM | there is really a quantal directory in there |
| SebastianM | Z_God, is there a stable repository as well or only the nightly build? |
| Z_God | yep, there is, I'm looking for it |
| Z_God | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/ |
| Z_God | I think this is the stable repos |
| SebastianM | I don't know how I should understand the development....if I install the nightly build or something frozen (if existing) in QUANTAL, what will happen then? Will there be packages missing? Will everything break my system? |
| Z_God | stable, but unreleased |
| SebastianM | what will be the problem with these packages? |
| Z_God | these packages should work fine |
| Z_God | otherwise bug reports would be very appreciated |
| Z_God | as these are about to be released |
| SebastianM | and what is actually the reason why they wait until summer? |
| SebastianM | something must be missing or so? |
| Z_God | ah yes, I miss something |
| Z_God | these packages only contain trivial updates to the R13 release |
| Z_God | so nothing major |
| Z_God | but also enough to enable building on quantal for instance |
| Z_God | the nightly builds are the R14 development builds |
| SebastianM | oh I see, so the nightly builds will miss a lot, the frozen thing will be fine if they install at all |
| Z_God | the nightly builds should be more complete |
| Z_God | as in having more features |
| Z_God | they should even have a network manager thing now |
| Z_God | but they are maybe not so stable yet |
| Z_God | I just read on the mailing list that there was actually the aim to release at the same time as wheezy |
| Z_God | so maybe there'll be an even earlier release |
| SebastianM | hum |
| SebastianM | so I should install the nightly build? |
| Z_God | I would install from slavek's ppa now |
| Z_God | that should be stable |
| SebastianM | ok |
| SebastianM | one last question: |
| Z_God | if you'd like to test things, try nightly ;) |
| SebastianM | slavek's ppa tells what to add to the sources-list |
| SebastianM | but I cannot find out what to add to the sources.list in order to be able to install nightly builds |
| Z_God | click "Technical details about this PPA" on that page |
| Z_God | it should show the lines |
| SebastianM | you know that I am talking about the nightly builds? |
| SebastianM | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dependencies/ubuntu/dists/quantal/ |
| SebastianM | this one |
| Z_God | ah sorry, I'm not reading properly |
| Z_God | let me find the page |
| SebastianM | I will test out all in virtualbox first |
| Z_God | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity |
| SebastianM | as I said, KDE4 is really pad |
| SebastianM | s/pad/bad/g; |
| Z_God | it seems that there is actually a planned release date :) |
| SebastianM | wow! :) |
| Z_God | middle of may :) |
| SebastianM | where do you find all that sorta stuff? |
| Z_God | I'm looking at the etherpad now |
| Z_God | it's linked from the development wiki pages |
| SebastianM | are you talking about Slavek's PPA or about the nightly builds? |
| Z_God | that's about R14 |
| SebastianM | cool :) |
| SebastianM | can you paste the link? |
| Z_God | not all of the etherpad is public though |
| SebastianM | oh, sorry |
| Z_God | I don't really know why it's like this |
| Z_God | but it's np to get an account |
| SebastianM | I think trinity desktop should make more marketing |
| SebastianM | people event do not know about TDE |
| Z_God | yes, indeed |
| SebastianM | Z_God, sorry, meaned "even" |
| Z_God | I haven't been involved much myself lately, the last time I was in a meeting was more than half a year ago |
| Z_God | I've been quite busy |
| Z_God | but when people can help out, they are very welcome :) |
| SebastianM | I can only offer a) perl b) php c) mysql d) webdesign e) translations |
| Z_God | I think it would help a lot :) |
| SebastianM | ok so we will go for it :) |
| Z_God | that would be great :) |
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| SebastianM | sorry Z_God... |
| SebastianM | back again |
| Z_God | no problem :) |
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| SebastianM | Z_God? |
| Z_God | SebastianM: yep |
| SebastianM | trinitydesktop is installing at the moment (in my virtual machine) |
| SebastianM | how can I install and enable the gnome network thingy? |
| Z_God | ok :) |
| Z_God | you're using slavek's packages? |
| SebastianM | since this is 12.04, I can use the official packages |
| Z_God | I think there's a package called network-manager-gnome |
| Z_God | once it's installed, you can run nm-applet |
| SebastianM | thank you, I will tell you if it works |
| Z_God | alright |
| Z_God | I'm about to go to bed |
| Z_God | I should be here tomorrow again though |
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| SebastianM | Thank you very much Z_God, sleep fine |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1421 filed by dunkan.aidaho@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1421 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Gnome network manager icon in the kicker tray resized to ridiculously small size |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1422 filed by dunkan.aidaho@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1422 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kolourpaint crashes during startup |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1423 filed by ppisa4lists@pikron.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1423 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDMTSAK/TSAK (Secure login dialog support) cause key-presses to be eaten, stuck and modifiers to blocks. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1424 filed by dunkan.aidaho@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1424 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdegraphics-kfile-plugins-trinity: add ghostscript as recommended package |
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| nnickjav | hello |
| nnickjav | can you tell me the repos for debian wheezy? |
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| SlavekB | nnickjav: preliminary packages for stable 3.5.13.2 or nightly builds for R14? |
| nnickjav | I dont mind |
| nnickjav | Is this http://trinity.blackmag.net/trinity-v3.5.13/debian/dists/wheezy/ ? |
| nnickjav | sorry for my bad english |
| SlavekB | This is mirror with final 3.5.13 versions - for Wheezy official version is not yet available. |
| SlavekB | but you can use preliminary packages on this apt source: |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main |
| nnickjav | and that repo will be the oficial? thanks |
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| SlavekB | Here are the packages which will be officially released as 3.5.13.2 - I hope soon. |
| nnickjav | ok, thanks |
| SlavekB | Before the official release you can expect some next updates in this repo. |
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| rtwhrt | arch Linux using someone trinity desktop? |
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| tpm | hi @all |
| tpm | i have a strange problem while using trinity. i'm on linux debian 6 and have installed trinity. it runs till i use apt-get autoremove what remove all trinity packages (say its unused) ... well .. as i know thats not so a good idea, i reinstall trinity. but, since this point, i cant run kdm-trinity ... only gdm works, and i don't know why. if i reboot with kdm, then nothing happend, and i must login wiy tty and startx manualy .. but if i dpk |
| tpm | g-recondfigure gdm then it runs till the gdm login screen. anyone know how i can bring back kdm_trinity? |
| tpm | maybe few configuration scripts missing, but i don't know which. |
| tpm | i get an error on the kdm.log like: Mar 25 21:11:14 kdm_config[2031] info: Cannot open master configuration file /etc/trinity/kdm/kdmdistrc .. so i think this file is missing, but not sure and i don't know how i can bring it back |
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| Z_God | tpm: maybe you could reinstall kdm with apt-get --reinstall install kdm-trinity |
| Z_God | but the problem seems strange |
| tpm | ok @ Z_God i try it |
| Z_God | good luck! |
| tpm | ;) thx |
| tpm | hmm .. shor message ... replace for kdm-trinity .. bla .. success ... lets try |
| tpm | +t |
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| tpm | re .. dosn't help :( |
| tpm | looks like, kdm wasnt started .. no kdm.log exist in /var/log/ |
| Z_God | no idea where that file should come from really |
| Z_God | I'm about to go to bed |
| Z_God | but try running kdm directly with verbose and debugging options |
| Z_God | it should provide more information |
| Z_God | good luck & good night! |
| tpm | debbugin how? |
| tpm | kdm -d ? |
| Z_God | something like that yes, check the arguments kdm supports |
| tpm | ok .. thx .. and gn8 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1425 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1425 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kicker sometimes crash on exit |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1420 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1420 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Trinity help center: cannot build the search index (Can't exec "beagle-config": No such file or directory at /opt/trinity/bin/khc_beagle_index.pl line 19.) |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1422 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1422 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Kolourpaint crashes during startup |
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| * Strangelv__ wonders where hardware settings in kcontrol and its ubuntu mutation have wondered off to hide | |
| Strangelv__ | "I have a friend who probably needs to change her driver, but I can't find where to point her |
| Strangelv__ | "or have the ruccent set of driver packages completely broken our GUI solution? |
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| Space_Man | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| Space_Man | /var/cache/apt/archives/libkonq4-trinity_4%3a3.5.13-2ubuntu0~pre51+10~quantal_amd64.deb |
| SlavekB | Space_Man: Run update again - the second time it will be successful. |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: I've just updated and have the above error |
| Space_Man | oh, I was a bit slow :P |
| SlavekB | :) |
| Space_Man | yippeee, everything is now updated and installed |
| Space_Man | thanks SlavekB |
| SlavekB | You can also expect an update kdelibs - it is in the queue waiting to build. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1426 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1426 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDE no longer uses some locale settings in the way KDE used to |
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| SebastianMu | hi |
| SebastianMu | just tried to install ubuntu 12.04 with TDE and got 2 problems: |
| SebastianMu | 1) the Icon "Install Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS" on the desktop is clickable, but no installation routine comes up |
| SebastianMu | 2) after installing the network-manager-gnome I ran the "nm-applet" |
| SebastianMu | nm-applet started, but tells me: "NetworkManager is not running..." |
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| Borg^Queen | hi to all |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1290 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1290 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, kpowersave 100% CPU usage |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Resolution on bug 1290 from WONTFIX to NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1290 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, kpowersave 100% CPU usage |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1427 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1427 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdeprint: collate option doesn't work |
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| SebastianMu | hi |
| SebastianMu | anyone around? |
| SebastianMu | I cannot get the nm-applet to work |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1428 filed by dunkan.aidaho@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1428 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Please integrate krandrtray into TDE system notification framework |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1429 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1429 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Applications invisible on taskbar |
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| Zadmin | hi all :) |
| Zadmin | is it possible to use TDE without Dolphin? |
| SlavekB | Yes, of course. The default file manager is Konqeuror. |
| Zadmin | SlavekB, thanks for the answer |
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| Zadmin | SlavekB, I tried the live cd and it was running dolphin as default, so I wanted to know. |
| SlavekB | What kind of distribution? |
| Zadmin | SlavekB, by the way, i'm thinking to contribute at least by donating some cash to the project |
| Zadmin | SlavekB, I use centos |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/LiveCDs |
| Zadmin | strange, dns problem |
| Zadmin | " Unable to determine IP address from host name for www.trinitydesktop.org |
| Zadmin | " |
| Zadmin | worked now |
| Zadmin | I tried Fedora LIve CD |
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| Zadmin | SlavekB, i'm going to install trinity on my old CentOS 5 (later i'll upgrade to CentOS 6) |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1144 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1144 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdepim: some include files installed under hardcoded 'kde' subdir |
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| falangjav | hello |
| falangjav | can trinity be installed on debian wheezy? sorry for my bad english |
| SlavekB | You can select between 3.5.13.2 (preliminary) and R14 (nightly-builds). |
| falangjav | what differeHow are they different? |
| falangjav | *How are they different? |
| SlavekB | 3.5.13.2 is stable, R14 is development. |
| falangjav | ok, I think for me is better the stable. |
| SlavekB | see |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?field.series_filter=wheezy&start=0&batch=150 |
| falangjav | how can I add that ppa? thanks for helping me |
| falangjav | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main ? |
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| falangjav | SlavekB: I get this error http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found |
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| falangjav | Is this the wheezy repo? deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu wheezy main deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu wheezy main |
| Space_Man | falangjav: wait a while and then try again |
| falangjav | Space_Man: ok, thanks |
| Space_Man | when the repo's are being updated they become unavailable |
| Space_Man | but it looks like your trying to use 3.5.13 |
| Space_Man | and that shouldn't be updated |
| falangjav | and the develoment repos? |
| falangjav | sorry for my bad english |
| Space_Man | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.desktop.trinity.user/3693 gives some help |
| Space_Man | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu precise main |
| Space_Man | deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu precise main |
| Space_Man | these 2 deb lines will give you SlavekB's 3.5.13.2 version |
| Space_Man | 3.5.12.2 is currently in beta stage |
| Space_Man | I use it and have no problems |
| Space_Man | there was a minor issue 3 weeks ago but it went away after logging out |
| Space_Man | oops |
| Space_Man | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main |
| Space_Man | deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main |
| Space_Man | are the correct deb's for wheezy |
| Space_Man | sorry |
| falangjav | ok, thanks. Now I am going to try it |
| Space_Man | if some strange icons appear on your desktop just log out, then log in and they should be gone |
| falangjav | Space_Man, thanks for all. do you know pakage name of desktop-base-trinity or trinity-standart ? |
| falangjav | i have found it |
| falangjav | the last question, is lightdm compatible with tde? |
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| AikiLinux | Hello , i've just upgraded my desktop following the instructions on the wiki, and I keep getting this error "ERROR: ld.so: object '/opt/kde3/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored." |
| AikiLinux | a google search did not help much |
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| AikiLinux | can anyone point me to a solution ? |
| SlavekB | AikiLinux: If you have installed package kgtk-qt3-trinity, remove / purge it. |
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| AikiLinux | I did , but the error is still there |
| AikiLinux | I guess i'll need to restart the KDE ? |
| SlavekB | Logout / login. |
| AikiLinux | thanks |
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| Space_Man | will AikiLinux return? |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1423 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1423 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, TDMTSAK/TSAK (Secure login dialog support) cause key-presses to be eaten, stuck and modifiers to blocks. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1423 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1423 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, TDMTSAK/TSAK (Secure login dialog support) cause key-presses to be eaten, stuck and modifiers to blocks. |
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| Marius80 | hi all |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, are you there? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 387 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=387 normal, P2, ---, monqpourbsd-linuxfr, RESOLVED FIXED, Kicker/Panel Clock Font Display Looks Weird |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1429 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1429 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Applications invisible on taskbar |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1429 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1429 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Applications invisible on taskbar |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1171 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1171 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: k9copy FTBFS without HAL |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1170 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1170 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kima FTBFS without HAL |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 230 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=230 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Amarok Keyboard Shortcuts Do Not Work Correctly |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 346 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=346 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Building amarok refuses to support mp4 tag writing |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1161 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1161 critical, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Kicker says it crashed, but actually seems to work |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1190 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1190 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, ALSA9: Capture mixer's knob wrong |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 724 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=724 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, kgtk-wrapper doesn't work with firefox and gimp |
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| jmilot | Hi, i have a problem with URL link |
| jmilot | how i can specify which applications use for URL link ? |
| jmilot | I think the link is now open by konqueror but i have blocked http / https link |
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| jmilot | Somebody know how block http / https in konqueror ? |
| Space_Man | add the url to the adblock filter |
| Space_Man | Settings / Configure Konqueror / AdBlock Filters |
| Space_Man | scroll down to about 3/4 and look at the current list |
| Space_Man | sadly that only blocks images, it doesn't block websites |
| Space_Man | oh well |
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| jmilot | i have used an option in kdeglobals |
| jmilot | but it blocks also URL desktop |
| jmilot | even if the URL are opened with iceweasel |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1335 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1335 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Build Issue:DBUILD_CRASHTEST should be renamed to WITH_CRASHTEST |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1201 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1201 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdelibs: xsession output cleanup |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 945 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=945 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kpilot can't find tqt headers |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 891 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=891 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdelibs: Potential inability to detect KDE4 apps for populating the TDE Menu |
| jmilot | somebody know how to block htt /https on konqueror ? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 811 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=811 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Screen saver doesn't activate when locking the screen because underlying GUI controls have not yet been implemented |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1288 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1288 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdesktop_lock crashes or hangs |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 850 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=850 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Implement tdehardware library |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 634 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=634 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, CDs not correctly recognized by TDE |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 634 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1169 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1169 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: koffice FTBFS with libwpd >= 0.9 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1116 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1116 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kconfig_compiler should be renamed |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 237 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=237 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Qt4 port? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 31 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=31 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Enhancement: Side-by-side installation of KDE 3 and KDE 4 |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1101 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1101 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Build issue: pytdeextensions will not build on Slackware 13.37 32-bit |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1124 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1124 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Input Actions Stopped Working (prtscr - ksnapshot, etc...) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1159 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1159 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kvirc fails to detect TDE directory |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1430 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1430 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok icons are hard-coded to the crystalsvg style |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1230 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1230 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Synaptic don't work via menu |
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| Space_Man | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1bq52c/the_british_hosting_company_bytemark_has_made_a/c98zt7f |
| Space_Man | "If there's ever something not on our mirror server - you'd be most welcome to ask if we could mirror it. I can't promise that we would, but we'd consider it. :)" |
| Space_Man | is this suitable for trinity? |
| Space_Man | the mirror http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/ |
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| jollis | has anyone seen the following messages when trying to load TDE: "could not start kstartupconfig, check your installation" and "lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?)" ? |
| jollis | (it's on Ubuntu 12.04 amd64, installed from the ppa) |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 811 from RESOLVED FIXED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=811 blocker, P1, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Screen saver doesn't activate when locking the screen because underlying GUI controls have not yet been implemented |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1431 filed by jwillis@coherent-logic.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1431 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Android Development Tools and Aptana Studio 3 crash on startup |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 811 from PATCHAVAIL to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=811 blocker, P1, ---, slavek.banko, CONFIRMED, Screen saver doesn't activate when locking the screen because underlying GUI controls have not yet been implemented |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 811 from CONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=811 blocker, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Screen saver doesn't activate when locking the screen because underlying GUI controls have not yet been implemented |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 690 from REOPENED to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=690 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, kdm_greet uses too much CPU |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1134 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1134 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: TDEEDU FTBFS when linking with --no-undefined |
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| darwin | can anyone tell me how to run Emacs in TDE? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1432 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1432 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add Move Up/Move Down buttons to kmenuedit |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1433 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1433 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Provide a mouse pointer tracker widget |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1434 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1434 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add asciiquarium screen saver |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1435 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1435 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add config option to Lock/Logout kicker applet to allow vertical layout |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 690 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=690 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdm_greet uses too much CPU |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1275 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1275 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, SAK in KDM breaks reboot/poweroff: init: no more processes left in this runlevel |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 350 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=350 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Source tarball permissions are goofy |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1010 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1010 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] Process table in ksysguard keeps flashing |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1418 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1418 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KSVGIconPainter::drawPath choking on qpdfview.svg: kicker cpu-spikes, X11 freezes |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1436 filed by dunkan.aidaho@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1436 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [regression] Gwenview persistent image rotation broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1437 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1437 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Changing mouse cursor theme should not require restarting Trinity |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 252 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=252 normal, P4, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Panel handle pointers (the black arrow heads) are too large. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1134 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1134 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: TDEEDU FTBFS when linking with --no-undefined |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1134 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1134 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: TDEEDU FTBFS when linking with --no-undefined |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1438 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1438 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KArm: memory leak in idle detector |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1438 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1439 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1439 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Make card sizes dynamic relative to screen size |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1134 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1134 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: TDEEDU FTBFS when linking with --no-undefined |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1169 from RESOLVED FIXED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1169 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: koffice FTBFS with libwpd >= 0.9 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1438 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1438 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KArm: memory leak in idle detector |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1403 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1403 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] krfb/krdc broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1440 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1440 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Akregator: Add GUI control to disable introduction splash page |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1431 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1431 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Android Development Tools and Aptana Studio 3 crash on startup |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 79 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=79 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kde3.5 remix install error |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1169 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1169 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: koffice FTBFS with libwpd >= 0.9 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1436 from NEW to SRUONLY. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1436 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, SRUONLY, [Regression] Gwenview persistent image rotation broken |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 86 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=86 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, KDE crash on start : no write access to ~/.ICEauthority |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1436 from SRUONLY to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1436 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] Gwenview persistent image rotation broken |
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| elcaset | http://www.fixthecfaa.com/ |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1436 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1436 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Gwenview persistent image rotation broken |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1441 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1441 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Provide a feedback mechanism when changing the size of the panel |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 346 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=346 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: Building amarok refuses to support mp4 tag writing |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1436 from RESOLVED FIXED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1436 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, [Regression] Gwenview persistent image rotation broken |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1436 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1436 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Gwenview persistent image rotation broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1442 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1442 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add config option to control the number of rows used in the taskbar |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1443 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1443 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, taskbar: Sort windows by application does not work |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1271 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1271 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdepim/kitchensync will not build against opensync >= 0.39 |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1159 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1159 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: kvirc fails to detect TDE directory |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1134 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1134 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: TDEEDU FTBFS when linking with --no-undefined |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1134 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1444 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1444 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] Digikam persistent image rotation is broken |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1159 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1159 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kvirc fails to detect TDE directory |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1445 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1445 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdelibs FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1134 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1134 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: TDEEDU FTBFS when linking with --no-undefined |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1159 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1159 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kvirc fails to detect TDE directory |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1399 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1399 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Taskbar 'Show application icons' not working |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1446 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1446 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Configuration is using KDE4 /usr/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1440 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1440 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Akregator: Add GUI control to disable introduction splash page |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1444 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1444 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, [Regression] Digikam persistent image rotation is broken |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1443 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1443 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, taskbar: Sort windows by application does not work |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1399 from RESOLVED FIXED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1399 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, [Regression] Taskbar 'Show application icons' not working |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 675 from CONFIRMED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=675 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, startkde (starttde) needs updating |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1175 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1175 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, xpdf is not updated with latest sources |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1447 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1447 normal, P5, ---, darrella, NEW, Rename $HOME/.kderc to avoid conflict with KDE4 |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1431 from WONTFIX to FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1431 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Android Development Tools and Aptana Studio 3 crash on startup |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1399 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1399 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Taskbar 'Show application icons' not working |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1443 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1443 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, taskbar: Sort windows by application does not work |
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| jmilot | Hello, i search some informations about slavek repository |
| jmilot | I would like to know how to improve the download when i upgrade |
| jmilot | because for now i download at 21ko |
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| jmilot | Hi Slavek |
| jmilot | I need some informations concerning your repository |
| SlavekB | jmilot: hi |
| jmilot | I use it to make upgrade but i download at 21k (average) |
| jmilot | how i can increase this speed |
| jmilot | maybe, they are an other copy of your repository ? |
| SlavekB | The problem is that my ppa is on the master server that has a slow connection. |
| SlavekB | You download source packages? |
| jmilot | no |
| jmilot | it's possible to have a copy of your repo on my own repo ? |
| jmilot | for now : depot-trinity.dotriver.eu |
| SlavekB | The packages will be copied to the mirrors after releasing the final version. |
| jmilot | ok |
| jmilot | we can have some problems to install them before? |
| SlavekB | I myself use them every day. :) |
| jmilot | for informations, we have 30-40 servers with TDE |
| jmilot | we use it every day with freenx |
| jmilot | for us and our customers |
| jmilot | i have seen when i make upgrade i have some package that are not upgrade |
| jmilot | so i can install them manuelly |
| SlavekB | wow, nice |
| jmilot | for example : kdelibs-data-trinity and kdelibs4c2a-trinity ( if i don't make mistakes) |
| SlavekB | In the last update was a conflict between konqueror and libkonq. It was then necessary to run the update 2×. |
| jmilot | update or you mean upgrade ? |
| SlavekB | upgrade, of course |
| jmilot | ok, i have tried dist-upgrade |
| jmilot | and i think they are not the pb |
| jmilot | (i don't remember exactly) |
| jmilot | maybe you can help me |
| jmilot | you know how to fixed some options in kpdf ? |
| jmilot | for example, i would like to fixe the tray for a printer |
| SlavekB | 2× upgrade is sufficient - I myself had the same problem. |
| jmilot | ok |
| jmilot | for you ppa, how i could have a copy of it ? |
| jmilot | like i said you, i have a lot of server so i need to upgrade them |
| jmilot | i imagine it will be hard to have a rsync of your ppa? |
| SlavekB | It would help apt-proxy? |
| jmilot | apt-proxy ? |
| jmilot | how it works ? |
| SlavekB | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy |
| jmilot | oh , i see |
| jmilot | but the problem is that all my servers are not in the same lan |
| jmilot | for example : servers in France, some in Porto, we will have some in Bresil |
| SlavekB | You can try: wget --mirror http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu |
| SlavekB | (I have not tried it) |
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| SlavekB | Ok, I tried the to specify wget command for mirror a little more precisely: |
| SlavekB | wget --no-host-directories --cut-dirs=3 --directory-prefix=trinity-axis --no-verbose --timestamping --recursive --level=0 --no-parent --reject "index.html*" http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu/ |
| jmilot | It will download all packages ? |
| SlavekB | all packages for all supported debian and ubuntu distros |
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| SlavekB | There remains one problem - old files will not deleted. |
| jmilot | ok |
| SlavekB | Downloads are both binary and source packages. |
| SlavekB | If you place a directory on your http server, you can then use it as your apt source. |
| SlavekB | You can expect that the folder has now 15 GiB. |
| jmilot | ok |
| jmilot | i will verify how space have |
| SlavekB | Note: Adding additional "--reject" you can exclude distributions that you do not need. |
| SlavekB | I am afraid, however, that the --reject filter *after* download the file - you do not save download time. Just the opposite - files will be downloaded on every update your mirror. |
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| jmilot | ok thanks |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1445 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1445 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdelibs FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1010 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1010 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Process table in ksysguard keeps flashing |
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| Wilvert | Hi |
| elcaset | hi |
| Wilvert | This morning I installed the tde-ubuntu-12.04 to an USB, but it doesn't show the kdenetwork or tdenetwork or something to manage the networks |
| Wilvert | where can I download the package for this to install it "offline"? |
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| Z_God | Wilvert: you'll have to use gnome's network management applet for now |
| Wilvert | how it is named? |
| Wilvert | how many dependencies it needs? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1234 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Can't login using kdm in virtualbox |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1448 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1448 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDM ignores @TDE_DATA_DIR@/share to populate sessions menu |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1449 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1449 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDM crashes when using any session other than default |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1450 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDEHWLIB won't remove device icons from the desktop w/o suid /usr/bin/eject |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1448 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1448 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, TDM ignores @TDE_DATA_DIR@/share to populate sessions menu |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1103 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1103 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Rearrangeable items in the taskbar |
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| l0ner | !seen |
| tbottu | l0ner: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. |
| l0ner | !seen mutantturkey |
| tbottu | l0ner: mutantturkey was last seen in #trinity-desktop 12 weeks, 5 days, 17 hours, 55 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> so unlimited power |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1451 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1451 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, konqueror: Duplicating activity after drag and drop in same window |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 675 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=675 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, startkde (starttde) needs updating |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1452 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1452 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Panel: Can't change background color |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1453 filed by julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1453 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDM broken in R14 nightlies |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1454 filed by julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1454 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kicker uses 100% CPU |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1103 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1103 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Rearrangeable items in the taskbar |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1455 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1455 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kate/Kwrite: Add shading to line number column |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1455 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1455 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Kate/Kwrite: Add shading to line number column |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1393 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1393 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, Build issue: several FTBFS building TDE 3.5.13.2 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1097 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1097 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, libjingle Video Chat support for Jabber/XMPP |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1412 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1412 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, TQCA-TLS not recognized by Kopete |
| tbottu | 10chaotickjg@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1309 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1309 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kopete Jabber protocol can't be loaded |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz marked bug 1193 as a duplicate of bug 825. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1193 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, KMail/Kontact multiple GPG passphrase boxes |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=825 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kmail/Kontact issue with encrypted email |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 825 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1456 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1456 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Crash in GTK applications when used gtk-qt-engine |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1457 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1457 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Change "Congratulations!" dialog boxes to non modal |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1450 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEHWLIB won't remove device icons from the desktop w/o suid /usr/bin/eject |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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| elcaset | Borg^Queen: hallo |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 992 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=992 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Amarok displays incorrect track lengths |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1450 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, TDEHWLIB won't remove device icons from the desktop w/o suid /usr/bin/eject |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1456 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1456 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, [Regression] Crash in GTK applications when used gtk-qt-engine |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1456 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1456 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Crash in GTK applications when used gtk-qt-engine |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1444 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1444 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Digikam and kipi-plugins persistent image rotation is broken |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 346 from REOPENED to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=346 major, P1, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, Build issue: Building amarok refuses to support mp4 tag writing |
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| elcaset | http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1cgu3q/for_real_cispa_is_almost_definitely_passing_the/ |
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| elcasetTDE | some distros let you use synaptic while running live to try it out, others don't. will Ubuntu 12.04 TDE let me do that? if so, what is the password foe sudo? thanks in advance. :)> |
| elcasetTDE | *for sudo |
| elcasetTDE | SlavekB: ^ |
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| SlavekB | elcasetTDE: live user can use sudo without password |
| elcasetTDE | SlavekB: Thanks. I'm getting somewhere now. :)> |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1458 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1458 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDM startup script for systemd base system |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1459 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1459 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: gwenview-i18n Sym Links Incorrect |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1460 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1460 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: k3b-i18n Sym Links Incorrect |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1451 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1451 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, konqueror: Duplicating activity after drag and drop in same window |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1058 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1058 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kicker spawns many processes by calling kicker-3.4-reverseLayout |
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| jmilot | Hi, i search a way to make an iso of TDE on debian |
| SlavekB | You can try http://exegnulinux.net/ |
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| jmilot | Thanks i will see |
| jmilot | but i would like to add my own package :$ |
| Space_Man | and a wheezy version http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/wheezy/ |
| Space_Man | but which version of trinity is on the cd? the homepage says "Trinity Desktop (KDE 3.5.13)" |
| Space_Man | is .0 or .1? |
| Space_Man | is it |
| Space_Man | some more info http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=exe |
| SlavekB | As far as I know, David uses my PPA, so there are 3.5.13.2 preliminary. |
| jmilot | how i can add my own repo and package to this iso ? |
| jmilot | i need to use exegnu ? |
| SlavekB | ExeGnuLinux uses the standard Debian sources, standard Trinity sources and adds its own source for the LiveCD scripts. |
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| rmgdt | hi guys |
| rmgdt | can I use your patches for my fork of kde 3.5.10 ? and then post them on my github ? |
| Space_Man | its all gpl, so yes |
| rmgdt | thanks. |
| rmgdt | I am developing kde from 3.5.10 upwards on github.com/iegor/kdesktop |
| rmgdt | mainly for myself |
| rmgdt | :) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 976 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=976 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, "My Documents" device is broken |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1461 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1461 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: koffice-i18n Sym Links Incorrect |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 976 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=976 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, "My Documents" device is broken |
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| guest0043 | Good evening everyone, I'm downloading the live PCosLinux, with which program I can put it on usb? |
| l0ner | Hi. |
| l0ner | ugh... there was one |
| l0ner | but how it was called? |
| l0ner | what os are you on now? |
| elcaset | guest0043: unetbootin works well on GNU/linux, & other OSes. |
| guest0043 | thanks elcaset |
| guest0043 | i tried to download the ubuntu iso but it's too slow |
| guest0043 | :( pclos iso is fast |
| guest0043 | I am eager to relive old times pc |
| guest0043 | these new DE make me hate pc |
| elcaset | PCLOS is pretty nice. Ubuntu with TDE is pretty nice, but I can't say the same for Unity. |
| guest0043 | my first linux was a S.u.S.E in 2003 |
| l0ner | unity would be good, of they removed everything from the dash menu |
| l0ner | * if |
| l0ner | and just made it display installed apps |
| l0ner | never tried suse |
| guest0043 | I no longer used by the ubuntu version number 8 |
| guest0043 | linux do not understand anything :) I do not know the command line |
| l0ner | bash is simple, I actually find command line easier to use than DE |
| elcaset | I prefer the gui. |
| l0ner | guest0043: wanna learn command line? grab slackware manual (slackbook). This is how I learned it. |
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| l0ner | gui is nice for everyday-use, like browsing web, reading books and so on ;) |
| guest0043 | a time I was a kid and spent many hours at the pc, basic language, html, now only use it for internet information culture |
| elcaset | i realize the cli is powerful, & it's natural for mathmajors & comp sci folks, but for the rest of us, it's like learning to speak Klingon. |
| l0ner | I know ;) |
| l0ner | And I wouldn't give up on cli myself. That's why I'm trying to compile TDE myself atm. |
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| elcaset | l0ner: kuhl. |
| l0ner | but for some tasks it's just simplier type one command with parameters, than dig through sh**load of windows. |
| elcaset | not for me. |
| l0ner | kuhl? |
| elcaset | kuhl is Deutsche for cool. one of the few Deutsche words I know. |
| elcaset | pronounced the same as English |
| elcaset | same meaning |
| l0ner | lol :D, didn't know. I try to remember ;) |
| elcaset | :)> |
| l0ner | And to think that i studied german for something like... 9 years? |
| elcaset | it's where KDE name came from. Kuhl Desktop Environment. |
| l0ner | I think it fits ;) |
| elcaset | I've studied Deutsche for 0 years. |
| elcaset | yep |
| l0ner | or at least did, until the Kde team decided to show off their awesum l33t programming skills |
| l0ner | and ignore what their userbase said. |
| l0ner | Like me with english, and I can speak it ;) |
| l0ner | I was forced to study german at school. Can't speak a word. |
| l0ner | I never studied english, and i don't have any problems communicating ;) |
| elcaset | English, Espanol, & Chinese are so dominant in the world, that it makes it easier to learn those languages. With all the other languages, you have to work at it harder to learn & maintain. |
| elcaset | I actually love both TDE & KDE, though. |
| elcaset | TDE is the best for older hardware. |
| l0ner | Well, I know Italian, so I can KINDA understand Espanol. When I try very hard xD |
| l0ner | I've been thinking about learning Japanese ;) |
| elcaset | ja, they both developed from latin, so thy're similar. |
| l0ner | Personally: I hate KDE4. It's ugly, clunky and bloated. |
| elcaset | Japanese is nice, too. |
| l0ner | yep. |
| l0ner | I have basic Japanese course laying on my shelf, waiting till I find some time to begin ;) |
| elcaset | KDE4 is only bloated when compared with TDE. Compared with Unity & GNOME 3, KDE4 is much faster. |
| l0ner | Unity is not so bloated, but it feels heavy. And I mean very heavy. And they screwed up whole dash. |
| l0ner | Gnome 3 is actually nice. |
| guest0043 | which country are you? |
| l0ner | Me? |
| l0ner | I'm Polish and I live in Italy atm. |
| guest0043 | :) buono |
| l0ner | you? :) |
| guest0043 | Italien |
| guest0043 | :D |
| l0ner | Bono :D |
| l0ner | di dove? :) |
| guest0043 | stò nel molise |
| guest0043 | mezz ora da caserta |
| guest0043 | un ora da napoli e due da roma |
| elcaset | I live near Seattle in north America. |
| l0ner | niente male ;) Io sto a Siena ;) |
| guest0043 | wow America :) |
| elcaset | ja |
| l0ner | I'd like to see how it is to live in USA |
| elcaset | well, it has its ups & downs |
| elcaset | like any place |
| l0ner | like any ;) |
| elcaset | ja |
| guest0043 | l0ner: mi piace della polonia la cultura e storia dei Trattori costruiti in casa |
| l0ner | guest0043: trattori fatti in casa? ecco un'altra cosa che scopro di polonia abitanto al estero xD |
| guest0043 | perhaps I would hate to live in big cities, I love the nature, the countryside, the land, animals |
| guest0043 | l0ner: sai parlare la tua lingua? |
| l0ner | elcaset: I moved a lot as kid, so I become a nomad. I'd like to see how it is to live in many different countries. |
| l0ner | guest0043: Certo. Sono solo 7 anni che abito qui. |
| l0ner | Ho avuto tempo per imparare Polacco. xD |
| guest0043 | http://www.nasetraktory.cz/joomla/ non sò se è polacco |
| guest0043 | e mi dispiace molto non riuscire a comprendere nulla del polacco |
| elcaset | l0ner> elcaset: I moved a lot as kid, so I become a nomad. I'd like to see how it is to live in many different countries. kuhl, that sounds like a very good way to grow up. :)> |
| guest0043 | anche con google la traduzione e imprecisa |
| l0ner | guest0043: e' ceco xD |
| guest0043 | elcaset: You live in a big city? |
| l0ner | si, tutte le linque di origine slava sono difficili, sia da tradurre che da imparare |
| guest0043 | vabe ci saranno forum anche polacchi :P |
| l0ner | volendo ;) |
| elcaset | guest0043> elcaset: You live in a big city? no, but I live somewhat close to a medium sized city. |
| l0ner | elcaset: well, yeah ;) I guess I grew pretty much fast |
| elcaset | citites in the US are not as big as cities in ASia, Europe. |
| l0ner | especially shocking for me was moving to Italy, completely strange country, completely different people than in poland, unknown language. |
| guest0043 | mine is 10 thousand inhabitants |
| guest0043 | 10000 |
| l0ner | when I moved to italy I knew only how to say "good morning" and "yes" xD |
| elcaset | oh, ja that is a nice small town. |
| guest0043 | very small :D |
| elcaset | & now you speak Italiano. kuhl |
| l0ner | yeah ;) |
| guest0043 | I like to grow vegetables |
| l0ner | It seems I have a talent to pick up languages by simply listening and trying to use them |
| elcaset | l0ner> It seems I have a talent to pick up languages by simply listening and trying to use them. you are lucky |
| l0ner | this is how I learned english and italian. |
| l0ner | I know ;) |
| l0ner | besides, I like learning languages |
| elcaset | me too |
| elcaset | which vegetables? |
| l0ner | be it English, Italian, Japanese, Phyton, C++ :P |
| guest0043 | pomodoro uva patate |
| elcaset | those are tricky languages :)> |
| guest0043 | insalata :) |
| l0ner | Well, and I decided not to grow them this year... |
| guest0043 | i'm google translate dipendend |
| guest0043 | tomatoes, lettuce, potatoes, grapes, broccoli, and more |
| elcaset | oh, nice |
| guest0043 | I now have 5 dogs 1 horse (truffle hunters) and 10 hens |
| elcaset | kuhl |
| elcaset | your horse hunts les truffle! |
| guest0043 | no :D |
| elcaset | haha |
| guest0043 | gahuah |
| guest0043 | the dogs are :) |
| elcaset | ja |
| guest0043 | Lagotto Romagnolo |
| guest0043 | see |
| guest0043 | it on google image |
| elcaset | ok |
| guest0043 | http://images03.olx.it/ui/19/18/79/1327699563_308190979_1-Immagini-di--LAGOTTO-ROMAGNOLO-PURISSIMA.jpg |
| guest0043 | :D |
| guest0043 | donwload completed well, now I feel TDE :) and then to bed! |
| guest0043 | thanks for the chat! goodnight to all |
| l0ner | g'night |
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| l0ner | finally finished reading mails from tde-users ml |
| l0ner | now to move to devel ml |
| l0ner | finished. That was quick |
| elcaset | nice |
| l0ner | Well, I needed only to go through something like 100 emails. |
| l0ner | I was away for a couple of days |
| elcaset | ! |
| l0ner | It was harder when I had like 6000 emails from both lists to go through. |
| l0ner | after a couple of months of inactivity. |
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| elcaset | aha |
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| guest0050 | hey users :) |
| guest0050 | l0ner: |
| l0ner | hi :) |
| guest0050 | pclos non ha trinity :( |
| guest0050 | è partito con lxde |
| l0ner | mi ricordo vagamente che c'era scritto qualcosa sulla dev ml su pclos |
| l0ner | prova debian ;) |
| guest0050 | ma io volevo provarlo da live |
| l0ner | per debian ci sono sicuramente pachetti con trinity |
| guest0050 | perche non sono capace di fare quelle cose :D |
| l0ner | mi sa che al momento non esiste nessuna live con TD |
| l0ner | *TDE |
| guest0050 | come no? |
| guest0050 | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/LiveCDs |
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| elcaset | there is a version of PCLOS with TDE. |
| guest0050 | yes elcaset i donwloaded it |
| elcaset | oh, ok. |
| guest0050 | put on usb with unebootin |
| guest0050 | but |
| elcaset | oh good |
| guest0050 | they start with lxde |
| guest0050 | not tde :/ |
| elcaset | what, that's strange. |
| l0ner | try to log out and switch session |
| guest0050 | one moment |
| l0ner | k ;) |
| guest0050 | yes it is so, I only have one iso pclos |
| guest0050 | :( |
| l0ner | I'm dwl'ing iso now. I try it myself. |
| guest0050 | is fast your connection? |
| l0ner | should be |
| guest0050 | 30\40 minuts |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | the same |
| l0ner | try coming back tommorow ;) |
| l0ner | I'll try to figure something out |
| guest0050 | i try switch user |
| guest0050 | and then |
| guest0050 | session |
| guest0050 | but TDE not compare |
| l0ner | strange |
| guest0050 | appears |
| guest0050 | but if I wanted to try to download and install it now on live is it possible? |
| l0ner | YOu can try ;) |
| l0ner | It should be possible ;) |
| guest0050 | ttp://ftp.vim.org/ibiblio/distributions/pclinuxos/megagames/apt/pclinuxos/2010/base/pkglist.megagames: 404 Not Found [IP: 192.87.102.43 80] http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/pclinuxos/apt/pclinuxos/2010/base/pkglist.main: 404 Not Found [IP: 193.1.193.64 80] http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/pclinuxos/apt/pclinuxos/2010/base/pkglist.updates: 404 Not Found [IP: 193.1.193.64 80] http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/pclinuxos/apt/pclinuxos/2010/base/pkglist |
| guest0050 | Synaptic |
| guest0050 | wont update |
| guest0050 | :/ |
| l0ner | do you have internet connection on your live system? |
| guest0050 | :D |
| guest0050 | yes im live with it |
| guest0050 | *chat |
| l0ner | then I don't know how to help you |
| l0ner | at least not until I try the live cd myself |
| l0ner | I'm at 20% |
| guest0050 | k :) |
| guest0050 | you are now using TDE? with which distribution? |
| l0ner | no, I'm slowly preparing my system for compilation |
| l0ner | right now i'm on Gnome 2.3 |
| l0ner | on Gentoo |
| guest0050 | :) |
| guest0050 | expert user :D |
| l0ner | yeah xD |
| l0ner | kinda xD |
| l0ner | I moved to Gentoo from ubuntu like... 5 years ago? |
| l0ner | and I used ubuntu only for 1 year |
| l0ner | before I was using Slackware ;) |
| l0ner | so I started form hard distro, moved to easier one, got annoyed, and moved to yet more hard one |
| guest0050 | i have only one pc |
| l0ner | I like challenges ;) |
| guest0050 | ahuah |
| l0ner | Then Virtualbox is for you ;) |
| guest0050 | in virtualbox |
| guest0050 | is too easy |
| l0ner | I have PC and ancient laptop which I'm on now ;) |
| l0ner | nah, it's good for testing ;) |
| l0ner | I use VMs on daily basis |
| l0ner | before I do anything on my gentoo install, first I try it on VM |
| l0ner | I don't want to clutter my install with useless things ;) |
| guest0050 | but in virtualbox all driver start well |
| l0ner | I've never found fun in dealing with non-working drivers |
| guest0050 | all is compatible |
| l0ner | well, even on normal installs everything should work fine. |
| l0ner | I'ts been 5 years since I had any driver related problem on binary distros |
| guest0050 | you are good :) |
| l0ner | Other thing with gentoo, but my problems were mostly due my errors in kernel configuration xD |
| l0ner | nah, all I do is follow tutorias form the net |
| l0ner | after some time you'll have enough experience to di things yourself ;) |
| guest0050 | I choose the distribution according to hardware recognition, first try the live, if it works then install |
| l0ner | google is our friend ;) |
| guest0050 | ehehe :D |
| guest0050 | but with only one pc |
| guest0050 | you can not install and search on google |
| guest0050 | :P |
| l0ner | well, that's true |
| l0ner | but personally I have already found my distro of choice. |
| l0ner | I feel really annoyed no binary distros |
| l0ner | for me its Gentoo, and gentoo. |
| l0ner | Maybe arch, but you need to keep it constantly up to date. |
| l0ner | if you miss update on arch you'll find yourself on non-updable system |
| guest0050 | yes.. |
| guest0050 | I am no longer a geek |
| guest0050 | I just want a simple deployment, when you install something that all goes well |
| l0ner | I do too ;) |
| l0ner | that's why I chose gentoo ;) |
| guest0050 | xp has always been considered one sucks |
| guest0050 | but it was all simple, you download a program, install it and use it, never have problems |
| l0ner | When I first installed gentoo it kept running for 4 years, until my pc died xD |
| guest0050 | do not use it for fear of viruses, trojans and spyware |
| l0ner | yeah, it's why the MS system are considered simple |
| l0ner | they just work. |
| guest0050 | now that you are always connected to the internet I feel safe just using linux, but I have not found that simplicity type windows xp |
| guest0050 | capisci che voglio dire? :D |
| l0ner | then try TDE. I found KDE3.5 back in it's days very similiar to win98 that i knew ;) |
| guest0050 | haha translate non fò il giusto dovere :) |
| l0ner | si, lo capisco benissimo ;) |
| l0ner | guarda, non si capisce che usi translate ;) |
| guest0050 | ahahha |
| guest0050 | però se prima di tradurre scrivi bene l'italiano, il risultato dovrebbe esser accettabile :) |
| l0ner | gia |
| l0ner | 61% ;) |
| guest0050 | :) |
| l0ner | 20 mins aprox |
| guest0050 | linux is fine, on old hardware and security |
| guest0050 | but the user base |
| guest0050 | will always be confused |
| l0ner | there will always be confusion on systems like linux |
| guest0050 | true |
| guest0050 | but it is not good |
| guest0050 | look android is moore user friendly |
| guest0050 | you find application read the description |
| guest0050 | click and install |
| l0ner | In order to simplify linux so every user could use it, You'd need to remove all the choices it gives you |
| l0ner | But in linux you have pretty much the same. Fire up the package manager, search, read description, click in install and it will do everything for you ;) |
| l0ner | unless you want to compile something yourself. |
| guest0050 | it is true, but you lose a lot of time to configure the appearance of your desktop |
| l0ner | which with stable code should be simple too |
| l0ner | unpack source code |
| l0ner | terminal, cd to source dir, ./configure && make && sudo make install. |
| l0ner | done. |
| l0ner | It depend on what you want. |
| l0ner | I configured my desktop in 10 mins |
| guest0050 | then you realize that you are missing some good programs, such as CAD |
| guest0050 | i have tried a lot of CAD |
| guest0050 | :/ |
| l0ner | there was cad for linux |
| l0ner | a free one too |
| l0ner | the common mistake is that people want apps they know from windows |
| l0ner | while sometimes all that changes is name xD |
| guest0050 | for some programs I use XP but I do not ever connect to the internet |
| l0ner | for me it's win7 + aast |
| l0ner | *avast |
| guest0050 | i neve tried |
| l0ner | try it ;) |
| l0ner | win7 is good as os |
| guest0050 | my hardware is obsolete :D |
| l0ner | and avast is good antyvirus ;) |
| l0ner | how old? |
| guest0050 | dont know |
| l0ner | heh |
| l0ner | specs? |
| guest0050 | emh |
| guest0050 | :) |
| l0ner | and now comes some command line magic ;) |
| guest0050 | ehehhe |
| guest0050 | lspc |
| l0ner | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| guest0050 | ? |
| l0ner | too ;) |
| guest0050 | AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ |
| l0ner | damn, yours is better than mine xD |
| l0ner | i have the same, but clocked @ 5200+ |
| l0ner | with 4Gb of ram |
| guest0050 | but some lightning burned the 512 video card |
| guest0050 | :( |
| guest0050 | i have 2 giga |
| l0ner | enough ;) |
| l0ner | and video card is needed only in games, and for all those fancy water-splashes |
| l0ner | if you stick with non-aero UI in win7 you'll be fine ;) |
| guest0050 | i have one big problem |
| l0ner | ? |
| guest0050 | i have 2 hd on this pc |
| guest0050 | 1 of this |
| l0ner | i have 3 xD |
| guest0050 | is very very old |
| guest0050 | like 2000 |
| guest0050 | yep |
| guest0050 | 10 yeas + - |
| guest0050 | years |
| l0ner | i have 160Gb hdd, one of the first hdds that came with sata |
| l0ner | well mine is the same xD |
| guest0050 | yes |
| guest0050 | but this hd |
| guest0050 | content a lot |
| guest0050 | of files |
| l0ner | gparted live is your friend ;) |
| l0ner | it will take some time tho |
| guest0050 | is going to die |
| guest0050 | I think some sectors are already damaged |
| l0ner | then buy new one xD |
| guest0050 | and I do not know how to save all those files |
| guest0050 | also because for the transfer of a giga takes a very long time |
| l0ner | well, saving them will take a lot of time |
| l0ner | but it's something you can't avoid. |
| l0ner | ok, I'm firing up the pclos live |
| guest0050 | ok |
| l0ner | username for live? |
| guest0050 | guest |
| guest0050 | guest |
| guest0050 | or root root |
| l0ner | k ;) |
| l0ner | thx |
| l0ner | you sure you've downloaded right iso image? |
| guest0050 | yes |
| guest0050 | it working ? |
| l0ner | yep |
| l0ner | and i have TDE in session list |
| guest0050 | c'e proprio scritto TDE ? |
| guest0050 | :( |
| guest0050 | male! |
| l0ner | https://copy.com/1WrEXnI2KexC |
| guest0050 | :'( |
| l0ner | poi e' strano che ti era partito lxde, visto che non ci dovrebbe essere neanche nella live |
| l0ner | ci dovrebbe essere IceWM e TDE |
| guest0050 | io salvo molte iso |
| guest0050 | ma di pclos ne ho solo una |
| guest0050 | cioè quella che ho scaricato |
| guest0050 | poco fa |
| l0ner | allora non so proprio come aiutarti |
| l0ner | mi dispiace |
| guest0050 | non c'e un programma di ricerca qui ? :D |
| guest0050 | voglio controllare bene |
| l0ner | qui? cioe? |
| guest0050 | su pclos :) |
| l0ner | boh xD |
| l0ner | faccio da sempre ricerche da console |
| l0ner | find / | grep <nome> |
| l0ner | xD |
| guest0050 | ok un comando per avere la lista di tutte le iso |
| guest0050 | contenute in una cartella |
| guest0050 | :P |
| l0ner | cd <cartella> |
| l0ner | ls *.iso |
| l0ner | se usi il taso <Tab> il percorso si doverbbe completare |
| l0ner | basta che scrivi le prime lettere |
| guest0050 | :D buono |
| guest0050 | beh vabe domani riscarico dinuovo e riprovo |
| guest0050 | c'e poco da fare :) |
| l0ner | vai ;) |
| l0ner | poi, aspetta un momento |
| guest0050 | dimmi |
| l0ner | http://book.slackware.it/ |
| l0ner | una buona risorsa per imparare le cose su linux |
| l0ner | io avevo iniziato da questo |
| l0ner | c'e' anche una parte che spiega la cli |
| l0ner | *la shell |
| l0ner | o la riga da commando |
| guest0050 | ma quelli son comandi uguale |
| l0ner | o come la vuoi chiamare in Italiano xD |
| guest0050 | per tutte le distribuzioni vero? |
| l0ner | si, |
| l0ner | e fa bene conoscere almeno quelli di base |
| guest0050 | si lo so |
| guest0050 | è seccante però |
| guest0050 | ricordarsi tutte le "variabili" |
| l0ner | no |
| guest0050 | esempio -d -s -b -n |
| l0ner | unica cosa che ti devi ricordare e -h |
| l0ner | che ti mostra tutte le altre ;) |
| l0ner | oppure man <commando> |
| l0ner | che ti da il manuale |
| l0ner | se le usi quotidianamente te le ricordi da te ;) |
| guest0050 | cos hai usato |
| guest0050 | ah ma tu hai provato la iso su macchina |
| guest0050 | virtuale giusto? |
| l0ner | si |
| guest0050 | ok stavo pensando com è successo :) |
| guest0050 | se e colpa della iso, o unebootin |
| l0ner | non credo |
| l0ner | che alla fine tutto che unetbootin e' formattare la pennina e eseguire commando dd |
| l0ner | che copia la iso bit-per-bit sulla pennina |
| guest0050 | già.. |
| guest0050 | fatto stà che ho Lightweight x11 |
| guest0050 | :D |
| l0ner | xD |
| l0ner | beh, e' comunque un WM ;) |
| guest0050 | :D o DE ? |
| guest0050 | :P |
| guest0050 | bo :) comunque ora stacco e tardissimo |
| l0ner | vai ;) |
| guest0050 | mi collego domani |
| l0ner | ma sa ce anch'io ;) |
| guest0050 | :D per altri problemi ahah |
| l0ner | speriamo non per problemi ;) |
| guest0050 | sicuro :D buonanotte! |
| l0ner | notte! ;) |
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| Guest007 | Hi all, i downloaded live iso of Ubuntu with TDE |
| Guest007 | work well but i dont find |
| Guest007 | installation pakage manager |
| Guest007 | if i wont install firefox i do manual with shell command ? |
| Space_Man | hi Guest007, I use Adept to manage packages |
| Space_Man | kdesudo adept_manager |
| Space_Man | it does sometimes crash :p |
| Space_Man | 'sudo apt-get install firefox' should install firefox |
| Guest007 | then I have to install a package manager? |
| Guest007 | I have already installed firefox from shell, but I thought to find a package manager to see what programs I install |
| Guest007 | ok now try to install Adept 250mega O.o |
| Guest007 | tde looks very nice, with some more fresh theme is perfect |
| Guest007 | how to run Adept ? |
| Guest007 | ok |
| Guest007 | :) |
| Guest007 | ok i installed synaptic :PP |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1462 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1462 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Krdc: open connections in a tabbed window |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1463 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1463 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Launcher menu: Update numerous desktop files |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 976 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=976 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, "My Documents" device is broken |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 975 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=975 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Apps do not honor/use the Documents location set in user-dirs.dirs |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1446 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1446 blocker, P1, ---, darrella, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Configuration is using KDE4 /usr/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1447 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1447 normal, P5, ---, darrella, RESOLVED FIXED, Rename $HOME/.kderc and /etc/kderc to avoid conflict with KDE4 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1464 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1464 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpowersave crashes on startup |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1465 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1465 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: ktorrent configure and link errors |
| elcaset | Guest007> I ended up installing synaptic, as well. |
| Guest007 | :) |
| Guest007 | one moment |
| Guest007 | you know what I'm sorry, this live is not persistent, and now I will lose all these changes |
| elcaset | ja, if you are running live, it's not permanent. |
| Guest007 | :( puppy linux is different :P |
| elcaset | I always test out an OS live for many days before I decide if it's good enough to install. |
| Guest007 | yes |
| elcaset | Puppy Linux is very very diferent from most distros. |
| Guest007 | I made many adjustments, and it seems to be back home :) |
| elcaset | The Damn Small Linux project has been revived, though :). |
| Guest007 | I would like to show you a screen of my desktop :) |
| elcaset | Guest007: can you put it up on the web somewhere, & post the link here? |
| Guest007 | it was looking for a free service without registration, but I do not know if there |
| elcaset | you could put it on google drive or google docs. whatever it's called. if you have a gmail account. |
| Guest007 | how mount a partition ? |
| Guest007 | :P |
| Guest007 | there is no program to mount hd |
| Guest007 | find on google :P |
| elcaset | you can probably use konqueror to mount a hard drive. |
| Guest007 | but did not appear, and then I did a terminal |
| Guest007 | there is a good alternative to Konqueror? I do not like very much: P |
| Guest007 | http://i.imgur.com/BGsKTMT.jpg |
| elcaset | Guest007: you can add the TDE version of Dolphin. I did. |
| Guest007 | so I can not simply uninstall this and install Doplhin? |
| Guest007 | Dolphin |
| elcaset | uninstall what? |
| elcaset | don't uninstall konqueror. |
| Guest007 | why? |
| Guest007 | :P |
| elcaset | just install dolphin as well. |
| elcaset | konqueror is a core package. |
| Guest007 | you have see screenshot? :P |
| Guest007 | ok |
| elcaset | yes, your screenshot looks very nice. |
| Guest007 | simple |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1129 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1129 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDED: Two services have no description in the KControl configuration |
| l0ner | god I'm tired... |
| Guest007 | hei l0ner |
| Guest007 | :) |
| l0ner | ciao ;) |
| l0ner | come va? |
| Guest007 | funziona alla grande |
| Guest007 | ubuntu |
| l0ner | bene, so contento |
| Guest007 | ma ora non si sente piu l'audio |
| Guest007 | ahuah |
| l0ner | lol xD |
| l0ner | succede |
| Guest007 | e ora? ho terminato il plugin container di firefox |
| Guest007 | e anche pulseaudio |
| Guest007 | e l'ho riavviato |
| Guest007 | ma nn và -.- |
| l0ner | boh, non saprei cosa dirti |
| l0ner | anche perche al momento sto pensando in commadi del Cisco IOS |
| l0ner | dopo 6 ore si studio ne ho abbastanza |
| Guest007 | ? |
| Guest007 | tu studi proprio informatica ? di che ti occupi? |
| l0ner | Sto studiando per la certificazione Cisco CCNA |
| Guest007 | nnon ho mai capito che diavolo è Cisco :D |
| Guest007 | trovavo sempre un sacco di risorse |
| l0ner | si, ho finito un ITIS come tecnico informatico ;) |
| Guest007 | su i siti warez |
| l0ner | Cisco? e' la piu' grossa azienda che produce dispositivi per networking |
| l0ner | ma per networking di levello alto, quelli che vengono usati dalle grosse aziende e ISP |
| Guest007 | capisco :) |
| Guest007 | beh farai successo |
| Guest007 | ne sai una piu del diavolo |
| l0ner | nella realta so veramente poco xD |
| l0ner | per questo sto studiando ancora |
| l0ner | vabbe |
| l0ner | credo che andro a dormire |
| Guest007 | volevo guardare un film |
| Guest007 | :D |
| l0ner | fra 9 ore ho un esame ;) |
| Guest007 | ma credo che spengo anche io |
| l0ner | prova a controllare livelli audio su alsamixer |
| Guest007 | si ho già |
| Guest007 | controllato |
| l0ner | allora non so come aiutarti |
| l0ner | con audio su ubuntu e' cosi xD |
| l0ner | dipende dal tempo xD |
| Guest007 | ahaha |
| Guest007 | mi capitava anche su puppy comunque |
| l0ner | vabbe, io spengo |
| Guest007 | ma poi bastava che rialzassi le levette sul mixer |
| Guest007 | :) |
| Guest007 | ciao buonanotte! |
| Guest007 | in bocca al lupo |
| l0ner | notte! :) |
| l0ner | crepi! :D |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1466 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1466 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdesdk: .git files are pulled into the final package |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1467 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1467 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Sudden auto-logout when idle |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1466 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1466 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdesdk: .git files are pulled into the final package |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1468 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1468 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, EmbedJS crashes |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1469 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1469 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tderadio: Fails to start correctly with numerous errors |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 665 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=665 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kompare: cannot display diff files, cannot load KompareViewPart |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1450 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEHWLIB won't remove device icons from the desktop w/o suid /usr/bin/eject |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1448 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1448 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: TDM ignores @TDE_DATA_DIR@/share to populate sessions menu |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1466 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1466 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdesdk: .git files are pulled into the final package |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1470 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1470 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Akregator starts KDED Password Module and tdewallet daemon |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1471 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1471 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: python-trinity: ImportError: No module named dcop |
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| darwin | for some reason KOrganizer Reminder Daemon is never giving me reminders when I set them up |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1472 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1472 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok support for ReplayGain |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1473 filed by roel@wagenaar.nu. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1473 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Unmet dependencies |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1473 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1473 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Unmet dependencies |
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| darwin | for some reason KOrganizer Reminder Daemon is never giving me reminders when I set them up |
| darwin | I enabled reminders for any time of the day. Still, it does nothing anymore |
| SlavekB | Reminder daemon is running and reminders enabled (in popup menu on reminder daemon)? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1474 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1474 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, killall command kills all of TDE |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1475 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1475 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ScreenSaver not activating |
| newbie999 | Can anyone tell me, why there is NO Trinity for openSUSE 12.3 ? |
| SlavekB | newbie999: I think that Francois will prepare packages once the version 3.5.13.2 goes final. |
| newbie999 | SlavekB: I see here http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/RoadMap that 3.5.14 planned to release past year, but it don't |
| SlavekB | This roadmap is completely out of date. |
| newbie999 | Where I can find the new one for 3.5.13.2 release date ? |
| SlavekB | Better roadmap is in Trinity Etherpad (may require registration), but there proposed deadlines also need to be slightly shifted. |
| SlavekB | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/39 |
| SlavekB | Version 3.5.13.2 I expect as soon as possible. |
| * Space_Man can't wait for 3.5.13.2 | |
| * SlavekB understands - I uses it every day :) | |
| Space_Man | meh http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/39 --> "Guests are not allowed to join that pad. Please sign in." |
| Space_Man | hi SlavekB, I'm also using .2 |
| Space_Man | thank you :) |
| Space_Man | I really should create a login for the etherpad and other trinity places, and then start helping... |
| Space_Man | but I don't know any Qt, C++ or even C |
| Space_Man | I'm used to php, perl and python |
| SlavekB | Testing and bug reports are also useful. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1467 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1467 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Sudden auto-logout when idle |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1401 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1401 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, TDM causes the appearance of artifacts with various desktop environment |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1227 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1227 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, "Finish actual session" in "End session" window dialog don't work, just a black screen appears instead of KDM |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz marked bug 1209 as a duplicate of bug 1233. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1209 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Shutdown won't complete if TDM is/was running |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1233 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, turn-off and restart not finished in TDE 3.5.13.1 |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1364 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1364 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, Trinity still attempts to start some kde4 stuff |
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| Guest007 | Hi all |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1364 from CONFIRMED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1364 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Trinity still attempts to start some kde4 stuff |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1476 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1476 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Cannot use File->Open in kate/kwrite when either is opened through konqueror |
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| calamari | after the latest round of updates, the taskbar seems to ignore the initial unchecked status of "Show windows from all screens". Now after I boot up, I have to check it, then uncheck and apply, to get the windows to only show on one screen. Then it forgets again at next boot. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1467 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1467 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Sudden auto-logout when idle |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1364 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1364 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Trinity still attempts to start some kde4 stuff |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1365 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1365 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, NEW, Build Issue: Initial cmake support for konversation |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 985 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=985 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kdesu: remove the "ignore" button |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 896 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=896 enhancement, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kservice.cpp: Add options to not show KDE3 or KDE4 apps in the TDE menu |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 688 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=688 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, TDE won't start the first time with Nvidia proprietary drivers installed |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1425 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1425 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kicker sometimes crash on exit |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1476 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1476 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Cannot use File->Open |
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| darwin | for some reason KOrganizer Reminder Daemon is never giving me reminders when I set them up. I enabled reminders for any time of the day. Still, it does nothing anymore |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 668 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=668 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, dual-head setup: kdm doesn't display the background image correctly |
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| tbottu | 10f_ii@email.cz changed the Status on bug 243 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=243 normal, P3, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Alt+F2, "opera" doesn't work any more |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1449 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1449 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDM crashes when using any session other than default |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1464 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1464 normal, P5, ---, darrella, NEEDINFO, kpowersave crashes on startup |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 760 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, TDE exits too slow |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 760 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, TDE exits too slow |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1464 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1464 critical, P5, ---, darrella, NEW, kpowersave crashes on startup |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1475 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1475 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] ScreenSaver not activating |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1451 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1451 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, konqueror: Duplicating activity after drag and drop in same window |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 906 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=906 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdesktop_lock contains irritating bugs |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1139 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1139 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, R14.0 nightly ships tdmdistrc which refers to /etc/trinity/kdm... and overrides tdmrc. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1402 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1402 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDM: ownership of tdm_greet process defaults to first user in /etc/passwd |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1071 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1071 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Shutdown/Restart options missing when using GDM |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1233 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1233 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, turn-off and restart not finished in TDE 3.5.13.1 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1464 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1464 critical, P5, ---, darrella, RESOLVED FIXED, kpowersave crashes on startup |
| tbottu | 10chaotickjg@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1141 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1141 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, KMail cannot start process for imaps |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1233 from NEEDINFO to SRUONLY. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1233 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, SRUONLY, turn-off and restart not finished in TDE 3.5.13.1 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1233 from SRUONLY to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1233 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, turn-off and restart not finished in TDE 3.5.13.1 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1477 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1477 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity startup and exit time is excessively slow when using NFS for user homes |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1478 filed by coronzon88@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1478 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kopete with Gadu-Gadu protocol adds unneeded contact to list |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 411 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=411 major, P4, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, kdelibs4c2a-trinity "provides" missing to kdelibs4c2a |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 7 as a duplicate of bug 411. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=7 enhancement, P4, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Not possible to install various packages due to kdelibs4c2a dependence |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1479 filed by archpoet@earthlink.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1479 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, request package tork be made available as tork-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1480 filed by archpoet@earthlink.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1480 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, request package kshowmail be made available as kshowmail-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 760 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, TDE exits too slow |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1481 filed by jpisini@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1481 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KlcdDimmer |
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| AmineZyad | Hello guys |
| AmineZyad | I installed trinity on ubuntu 12.04, but when i start it it gives me the error Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation. |
| AmineZyad | I still can log in but the apps crashes a lot! |
| SlavekB | Please uninstall package kgtk-qt3-trinity. |
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| AmineZyad | When i try to remove the package kgtk-qt3-trinity it requires me to remove kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| AmineZyad | it's safe ? |
| AmineZyad | guys :( |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 760 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDE exits too slow |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1482 filed by kernelpanic@inbox.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1482 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, After desktop unlock kdesktop hangs |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1453 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1453 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, TDM broken in R14 nightlies |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1454 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1454 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kicker uses 100% CPU |
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| hays | is there a repo for raring yet? I'd like to give this a try, since I've finally had it, I think, with KDE4 |
| SlavekB | hays: Currently only for R14 (development version). For 3.5.13.x (stable series) will be soon. |
| hays | i don't mind the development version as long as its not completely borked |
| SlavekB | See instructions on https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/ |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-nightly-builds/ |
| SlavekB | Or simple instructions on http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/NightlyBuilds |
| hays | thanks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1483 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1483 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Twin4 does disables undo when one player wins |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1344 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1344 normal, P5, ---, darrella, RESOLVED FIXED, tde-i18n: some conflicts in documentation. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1484 filed by chaotickjg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1484 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDM crashes X |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1485 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1485 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Arts with esound does not support fragment size < 4MB |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1485 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1318 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1318 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kmail/Kontact crash |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 825 from CONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=825 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kmail/Kontact issue with encrypted email |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 760 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE exits too slow |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1486 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1486 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Gradient window background |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1487 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1487 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Include some ready-to-use superkaramba widgets with TDE |
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| EgonR | Howdy |
| EgonR | Is there a polyester package for trinity, or can i get it to work from source? |
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| jmilot | Hello |
| jmilot | I would like to know how to install TDE on Wheezy |
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| jmilot | I would like to know how to install TDE on Wheezy |
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| SlavekB | jmilot: stable branch 3.5.13.x? |
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| jmilot | Hello SlavekB |
| jmilot | Yes stable branch |
| jmilot | Wheezy will become stable in few days |
| SlavekB | Currently are available only 3.5.13.2 preliminary packages. |
| SlavekB | Add this to your apt sources: |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main |
| jmilot | do you when we could have access on main repository ? |
| jmilot | do you know* |
| SlavekB | You mean when will be 3.5.13.2 final and will be published in the main repository? |
| jmilot | no, i would say how i can install tde on wheezy |
| jmilot | from for example : http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/ |
| SlavekB | Yes - it is related. Once 3.5.13.2 will be released as final, then will be copied from my ppa into official repository => will be available from mirrors. |
| jmilot | ok so for now to have access i only need to change squeeze by wheezy ? |
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| Borg^Queen | Hello to all |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1485 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1485 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Arts with esound does not support fragment size < 4MB |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1488 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1488 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmix: Adjusting the volume (mono) microphone does not work |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1451 from CONFIRMED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1451 critical, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, konqueror: Duplicating activity after drag and drop in same window |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1484 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1484 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, TDM crashes X |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1451 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1451 critical, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, konqueror: Duplicating activity after drag and drop in same window |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1484 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1484 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDM crashes X |
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| jmilot | Hi all |
| jmilot | somebody could say me which repository used to install TDE on Wheezy |
| jmilot | ? |
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| jmilot | somebody could say me which repository used to install TDE on Wheezy ? |
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| jmilot | Hello, somebody could say me which repository used to install TDE on Wheezy ? |
| jmilot | Hi SlavekB |
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| rzs19 | jmilot, do youz need the network manager? |
| jmilot | no |
| rzs19 | 3.5.13.2 (if i remember correctly): deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main |
| rzs19 | keep in mind that it is not released yet, could make troubles :-) |
| jmilot | yes i know |
| jmilot | i'm waiting for the next week with the new release of debian |
| rzs19 | well, we will see whether they could observe the dead line. |
| rzs19 | we got some troubles with wheezy |
| rzs19 | or it is more the linux kernel. |
| SlavekB | You have two options: |
| SlavekB | 1) preliminary apt source for stable branch v3.5.13.2 |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main |
| SlavekB | 2) nightly-build apt source == preliminary for R14 |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dependencies/ubuntu wheezy main |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu wheezy main |
| jmilot | thanks for your reply, i will test nighlty-built |
| SlavekB | For both apt sources => it is not on the mirrors. Only on primary server == slow download. |
| jmilot | ok |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | someone has installed TDE on archlinux? |
| SlavekB | sacarde: Hi, I'm not sure if someone maintain packages for archlinux. |
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| elcaset | a good petition: http://www.defectivebydesign.org/no-drm-in-html5 |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1120 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1120 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] In a TDE session, X11 forwarding is very slow or causes KWin to crash |
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| sacarde | hi |
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| sacarde | do you suggest me to install tde3.5 or tde14 ? |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | is possible start tde in a systemd ? |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | how is possible start tdm in arch systemd ? |
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| SlavekB | sacarde: you can try script from bug 1458 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1458 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDM startup script for systemd base system |
| sacarde | thank SlavekB |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1489 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1489 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Visual glitches when QTCurve is used on R14 nightlies |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1490 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1490 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDE Hardware Device Manager |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1491 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1491 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Too many storage devices are shown in the KickOff menu |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1492 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1492 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok doesn't start |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz marked bug 1492 as a duplicate of bug 1415. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1492 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Amarok doesn't start |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1415 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok crashes immediately after startup |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1415 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1451 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1451 critical, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, konqueror: Duplicating activity after drag and drop in same window |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 358 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=358 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Amarok 1.4 crashes when the Collection tab is clicked |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 415 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=415 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Amarok crashes on switching songs (score script) |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 107 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=107 minor, P4, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, missing dependency on jaunty (kipi-plugins-kde3 -> libgpod3) |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 81 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=81 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, No power management in systems management |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 391 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=391 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, subversion kwallet kde3 integration for 1.6 (taht only use kde4) for debian realy linux |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1451 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1451 critical, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, konqueror: Duplicating activity after drag and drop in same window |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 714 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=714 minor, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kio_man does not work with some distros |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1493 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1493 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kio_man does not support XZ compressed manpages |
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| AlexEditor | hi guys |
| AlexEditor | can trinity be used on *buntu 13.04? |
| Space_Man | AlexEditor: is 13.04 raring rhino or something? |
| AlexEditor | raring ringtail |
| Space_Man | you can use SlavekB's 3.5.13.2 beta version "deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu raring main" |
| Space_Man | "deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu raring main" |
| AlexEditor | sounds good, i'll try it |
| Space_Man | it is nearly finished :P |
| AlexEditor | aight |
| * Space_Man waits for SlavekB to confirm | |
| AlexEditor | so does trinity tends to be a nice neighbour to kde4? |
| Space_Man | AlexEditor: I'm using 3.5.13.2 and I don't have any problems with it |
| Space_Man | yes, kde4 and kde3 now work quite well together |
| AlexEditor | sweet |
| AlexEditor | nice to see kde3 still alive |
| AlexEditor | the package names are still kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity ? |
| AlexEditor | ah, didn't notice this msg: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net raring Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 099723A280479E11# |
| AlexEditor | my linux knowledge ends here apparently, how do i fix that :D |
| SlavekB | apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys 80479E11 |
| AlexEditor | thanks |
| SlavekB | Note: Packages for Raring are gradually uploaded into PPA. I recommend adding at the same time Trinity apt source for Quantal. |
| AlexEditor | is only the source available for now? my konsole says it's unable to find the packages |
| SlavekB | At this time is for Raring uploaded only a small number of packages. |
| AlexEditor | umm okay |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?field.series_filter=raring&start=0&batch=150 |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis/+packages?field.series_filter=quantal&start=0&batch=150 |
| SlavekB | I believe that it should be possible to use the Trinity apt sources for both Raring + Quantal. As will be added packages for Raring, you will gradually update. |
| AlexEditor | we'll see |
| AlexEditor | just want to update the system first... it's kinda stuck. i'll report back |
| AlexEditor | apparently it refuses to install packages from the quantal repository |
| AlexEditor | http://pastebin.com/zeS60qD1 |
| SlavekB | Try to start with minimal installation: |
| SlavekB | sudo apt-get install ksmserver-trinity kdm-trinity xserver-xorg |
| AlexEditor | that seems to work |
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| AlexEditor | um |
| AlexEditor | as the stuff is installed, this popped up in konsole: removing ubuntu-desktop removing xubuntu-desktop removing kubuntu-desktop |
| AlexEditor | i hope it doesn't actually did that |
| AlexEditor | *didn't |
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| AlexEditor | back |
| AlexEditor | all works |
| AlexEditor | this is awesome |
| AlexEditor | any way to use TDE+Openbox? |
| AlexEditor | but seriously this is so cool |
| jmilot | Hi |
| jmilot | I search to know why i can use freenx and TDE on debian wheezy ? |
| jmilot | is it link to upstart ? |
| jmilot | Hi SlavekB |
| jmilot | apt-get install ksmserver-trinity --no-install-recommends |
| jmilot | Les paquets suivants seront ENLEVÉS : |
| jmilot | freenx-server upstart |
| jmilot | I have this message : upstart : Casse: cryptsetup (< 2:1.4.3-4.1) mais 2:1.4.3-4 doit être installé. |
| SlavekB | jmilot: I look at it - kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity has a dependency on cryptsetup, but crypsetup is in conflict with upstart |
| jmilot | is it really necessary ? |
| jmilot | i haven't this problem on squeeze |
| SlavekB | I suppose on squeeze you not use upstart, but sysvinit. |
| jmilot | on squeeze to use freenx-server i need to remove sysvinit to install upstart |
| SlavekB | Aha - on squeeze cryptsetup was not in conflict with upstart. |
| SlavekB | Respectively, on squeeze cryptsetup has no dependency on sysvinit. |
| jmilot | ok so it's due to some change on cryptsetup .. |
| jmilot | i really need to install freenx-server ... |
| jmilot | maybe i can change the freenx-server package |
| jmilot | to delete upstart dependence |
| jmilot | i don't what upstart do |
| jmilot | i think i could delete it whitout problem |
| SlavekB | upstart is ubunut replacement for sysvinit. |
| jmilot | ok, it's because i need to take freenx-server package on ubuntu repository |
| jmilot | thanks for your help |
| SlavekB | I believe that crypsetup may not be as dependency, but may be as recommended. |
| jmilot | recommended for ? |
| jmilot | kdebase-kio-plugins ? |
| SlavekB | Yes |
| jmilot | it's strange because i use --no-install-recommends option |
| SlavekB | That is because, at present, is as a dependency |
| jmilot | do you know now is a dependency ? |
| jmilot | why* |
| SlavekB | I consider that it is not necessary, and that's for the next update could be changed to recommended |
| jmilot | ok |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1493 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1493 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, kio_man does not support XZ compressed manpages |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1279 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1279 minor, P5, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, kate/kwrite stalls a long time opening any *.kcrash file |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1453 from NEEDINFO to UNCONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1453 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, UNCONFIRMED, TDM broken in R14 nightlies |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1453 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1453 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDM broken in R14 nightlies |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1494 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1494 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Starting Synaptic from its icon doesn't work |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1495 filed by julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1495 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Monitor & Display part of System Settings shows the wrong resolutions for one of my screens |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1496 filed by julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1496 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdenetworkmanager cannot display wireless networks |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1454 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1454 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kicker uses 100% CPU |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1497 filed by julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1497 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gtk-qt-application often crashes i.c.w. Chromium |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1498 filed by julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1498 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Missing button text labels in GTK applications |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1499 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1499 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Backporting KDE3 patches from Mandriva |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1499 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
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| JotaMG | Hi all! |
| JotaMG | is there any roadmap for the next releses of TDE ?? |
| elcaset | JotaMG: hi |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1088 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1088 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Amarok: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1088 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1088 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments |
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| GnuSense | Hey folks, I'd like to upgrade from Debian squeeze to wheezy so I tried to uninstall all the trinity packages in case they would cause problems. Unfortunately, it hung on ksmserver-trinity. I get "Removing ksmserver-trinity ...No diversion 'any diversion of /usr/bin/plasma', none removed. Removing 'local diversion of /usr/bin/plasma-desktop to /usr/bin/plasma-desktop.kde4' dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/us |
| GnuSense | Any idea how to push past this? |
| GnuSense | I've seen this before and somehow got past it, but I don't remember how. |
| GnuSense | No one ever seen this problem? |
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| GnuSense | If anyone asks that question again I guess you can use this script, I have no idea what it did, exactly. http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::4239 |
| GnuSense | Hopefully at least I can upgrade to wheezy, now |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1088 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1088 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Amarok: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 269 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=269 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Forward slash allowed in file name |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 188 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=188 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Amarok transparent OSD retains old background |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1488 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1488 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kmix: Adjusting the volume (mono) microphone does not work |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1424 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1424 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdegraphics-kfile-plugins-trinity: add ghostscript as recommended package |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1379 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1379 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Amarok: creates a kmail rather than creating a normal backtrace |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1491 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1491 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Too many storage devices are shown in the KickOff menu |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 1336 as a duplicate of bug 1491. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1336 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Kickoff menu freezes Kicker panel |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1500 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1500 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Storage device list in Dolphin doesn't follow mount/unmount actions and other Dolphin details |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1501 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1501 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdenetwork: unknown icon type |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1465 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1465 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: ktorrent configure and link errors |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1465 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1465 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: ktorrent configure and link errors |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1493 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1493 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, kio_man does not support XZ compressed manpages |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 104 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=104 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, More accidental package conflicts with KDE4 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 259 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=259 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kompare does not always terminate properly, leaving the process running |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1502 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1502 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konsole does not correctly display forward slash now supported in konqueror |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1156 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1156 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, *** glibc detected *** kded [tdeinit] --new-startup: corrupted double-linked list: 0x081eb0b0 *** |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1371 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1371 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, CD/DVD notifications do not work properly |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1384 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1384 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, groupware wizard crashes complaining about :cannot open shared object file |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1389 from NEW to SRUONLY. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1389 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, SRUONLY, HAL daemon does not start on OpenSUSE 12.2 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1410 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1410 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, File selection dialog returns no file |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1078 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1078 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove kgtk from meta packages |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1237 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1237 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE file save/open dialogs conflict with some third-party programs |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 1244 as a duplicate of bug 1237. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1244 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, GTK-Qt integration breaks some programs |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 113 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=113 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, If konsole from KDE4 installed along KDE3 packages break out |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 376 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=376 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Unable to install 10.10 over 9.04 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1482 from NEW to SRUONLY. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1482 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, SRUONLY, After desktop unlock kdesktop hangs |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1291 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1291 normal, P5, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, some kickoff menu bugs |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1208 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1208 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Bouncing cursor is displayed twice when launching app |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1174 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1174 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing theme moves panel |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1341 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1341 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Konqueror default keyboard shortcut to switch tabs |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1184 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1184 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Running Trinity Concurrently with KDE 4 (or 3.5) |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 923 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=923 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Build issue: kpowersave - /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldbus-tqt-1, DBUS_TQT_LIBRARY_DIRS is not passed to linker |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 539 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=539 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, XMMS don't work in Trinity |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 514 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=514 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, aKregator crashes on jpeg display. |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 441 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=441 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, TDE's kdmrc defaults prevent kdm-trinity from working |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 414 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=414 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, konqueror: context menu on (mounted) device missing |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 243 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=243 normal, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Alt+F2, "opera" doesn't work any more |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 192 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=192 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, krandrtray enhancements |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 228 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=228 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Cannot automount NTFS usb |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 152 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=152 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Gnome apps are not added to the KDE Menu |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 142 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=142 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kdbg needs packaging |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 114 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=114 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Removeng kdelibs4c2a-kde3 leads to removal of all Qt3 applications. |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 109 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=109 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, ksmserver-kde3 cannot be removed in jaunty. |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1333 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1333 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Build Issue: krdc FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1384 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1384 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, groupware wizard crashes complaining about :cannot open shared object file |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1318 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1318 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kmail/Kontact crash |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 142 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=142 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdbg needs packaging |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 192 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=192 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, krandrtray enhancements |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1503 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1503 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add GUI support to format removable devices |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1154 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1154 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Build issue: tdelibs can't be built with CUPS 1.6 |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1131 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1131 normal, P5, ---, mutantturkey, CONFIRMED, kate - opening project with remote files should not create a connection dialog for each file |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1034 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1034 trivial, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Standard Python filter in KWrite is corrupt. |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 665 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=665 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, kompare: cannot display diff files, cannot load KompareViewPart |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1504 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1504 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror context menu does not show file creation options with USB flash drives |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1139 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1139 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, R14.0 nightly ships tdmdistrc which refers to /etc/trinity/kdm... and overrides tdmrc. |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1208 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1208 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Bouncing cursor is displayed twice when launching app |
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| DexterF | heya |
| DexterF | now that deb7 has gone stable, are there going to be trinity debs in the near future? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1505 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1505 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kmix : icon does not change when mute is checked or unchecked |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1505 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1506 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1506 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kcmshell displayconfig cannot save settings when gamma is not supported by xrandr |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1507 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1507 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add a smooth-task like taskbar to TDE |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 346 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=346 major, P1, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: Building amarok refuses to support mp4 tag writing |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1508 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1508 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Qt3/TQt3 contains numerous threading data races |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1508 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 180 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=180 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Under certain conditions the Konqueror filter bar can crash |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 346 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=346 major, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Building amarok refuses to support mp4 tag writing |
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| gerhard_ | Hi, I got the same issue with trinity/precise as mentioned in this Post: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.desktop.trinity.user/1015 |
| gerhard_ | Where can I file a bug against ksmserver-trinity |
| SlavekB | Please, what version you have installed now? And to what version you update? |
| gerhard_ | I had the last version of the lucid repository installed and upgraded to precise. |
| gerhard_ | 500 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages |
| SlavekB | Files /usr/bin/plasma zu /usr/bin/plasma.kde4 exist and they are real files or some symlinks? |
| gerhard_ | Only one of those files exist: /usr/bin/plasma -> /usr/bin/plasma.autodetect |
| SlavekB | Please, can you try update ti preliminary packages for 3.5.13.2, instead of 3.5.13.1. |
| SlavekB | I tried to fix handling of diverts in 3.5.13.2. |
| gerhard_ | http://pastebin.com/TGXpzEus |
| SlavekB | Apt source for 3.5.13.2 preliminary packages is: |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu precise main |
| gerhard_ | Is that a special source.list entry for the fixed package? |
| gerhard_ | Also, I noticed, that the repository might be somewhat slow, is it? |
| gerhard_ | I'm sorry, that the paste is a section of a LANG=de_DE generated output. |
| SlavekB | At this apt source are preliminary packages for the Trinity stable branch - now preliminary for 3.5.13.2. |
| SlavekB | Yes, downloading is from the primary server that has a slow connection. |
| gerhard_ | Are there mirrors? |
| gerhard_ | Sorry, but I don't have the website by hand. |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, no. On the mirrors will be final packages after official release. |
| gerhard_ | SlavekB, do I have to replace my sources.list entries with the one you offered, or can I just add it? |
| SlavekB | You can add it. |
| gerhard_ | I meant in general, I can use mirrors to speed things up? |
| gerhard_ | Not in particular for this package test. |
| gerhard_ | Ok, anyway: On the website I don't see any mirror. |
| gerhard_ | I'll add that line and see how that goes. |
| SlavekB | Yes, but because the stable-preliminary and nightly-builds packages are updated more often, they are not placed on mirrors. |
| SlavekB | Final packages are then on the mirrors, between which then apt automatically selects. |
| SlavekB | Mirrors are listed here |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/contributors.php |
| gerhard_ | SlavekB, How does that work: automatic mirror selection? Just with the deb lines on the homepage? |
| gerhard_ | Ah, ok, that's those lines 100% [Verbindung mit mirror.ntmm.org] at work, right? |
| SlavekB | Master server redirects the client downloads to the mirror. |
| gerhard_ | And apt tests the network connection speed to decide what mirror is the best one? |
| gerhard_ | What does dpkg_divert do, and what was wrong in this case? |
| SlavekB | No, so perfect it is not :) Master server alternately selects between the mirrors. |
| gerhard_ | The update is in progress. |
| gerhard_ | That may take some time. |
| gerhard_ | 71,9 MB will be downloaded |
| gerhard_ | there is a warning, that the packages are not authorized |
| gerhard_ | Would it make sense to do apt-pinning for that package? |
| SlavekB | apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys 80479E11 |
| gerhard_ | It takes 10 minutes |
| SlavekB | It is still a very good time - sometimes it is even slower :) |
| gerhard_ | I'm glad that you offer the old KDE, because I need quanta+ for some old websites to maintain. |
| gerhard_ | haha 1678 B/s 8h 52min 19s |
| gerhard_ | ETA 2h left |
| gerhard_ | it shows 1h up to 12h. I hope it will be in fact less than an hour... |
| gerhard_ | Now it shows 10min again. We'll see... |
| gerhard_ | Unfortunately I got an error again: http://pastebin.com/FbmPGYqj |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1505 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1505 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kmix : icon does not change when mute is checked or unchecked |
| gerhard_ | http://pastebin.com/2m2dFeaX |
| gerhard_ | locale: http://pastebin.com/yNCUdv9n |
| gerhard_ | trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/plasma-desktop', which is also in package plasma-desktop 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.3 |
| gerhard_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Mai 12 12:47 /usr/bin/plasma-desktop -> /usr/bin/plasma-desktop.autodetect |
| gerhard_ | Does it harm to work around those errors with dpkg -i --force-overwrite? |
| SlavekB | Oops. So this need some more work to solve diverts :( |
| SlavekB | I have hoped that I already solved this problems. |
| SlavekB | Try: |
| SlavekB | rm -v /usr/bin/plasma-desktop |
| SlavekB | dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop |
| gerhard_ | and then upgrade again? |
| SlavekB | Yes. |
| gerhard_ | Do you have an Idea, what happened with perl/locale? |
| gerhard_ | $ sudo dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop |
| gerhard_ | --remove --local --rename /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop |
| gerhard_ | But then I got the same error. |
| SlavekB | It is not yet completed locales configuration after the update. |
| gerhard_ | /usr/bin/plasma-desktop |
| SlavekB | dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop |
| gerhard_ | The error mention /usr/bin/plasma-desktop instead |
| gerhard_ | Ah, that might be the --rename action, right? |
| SlavekB | Aha - I see it. The package performs divert the plasma.desktop instead of plasma-desktop :( |
| gerhard_ | No, but I dfid already plasma.deskto |
| gerhard_ | p |
| gerhard_ | *did |
| gerhard_ | sudo dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop |
| gerhard_ | But that diidn't do the trick. |
| gerhard_ | Shouldn't it be sudo dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/bin/plasma.desktop |
| gerhard_ | instead? |
| gerhard_ | /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop does not exist. |
| SlavekB | One moment please, I'm trying to make sense in that. |
| gerhard_ | dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/bin/plasma.desktop /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop |
| gerhard_ | <-- does that make sense (I don't know nothing about dopkg-divert) |
| SlavekB | Please, send result from: |
| SlavekB | dpkg-divert --list|grep plasma |
| gerhard_ | it greps nothing |
| gerhard_ | $ sudo dpkg-divert --listpackage /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop |
| gerhard_ | --listpackage /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop |
| gerhard_ | nothing else |
| gerhard_ | omg, it's echo |
| SlavekB | Try to create a new divert: |
| SlavekB | sudo dpkg-divert --package ksmserver-trinity --rename --divert /usr/bin/plasma-desktop.kde4 --add /usr/bin/plasma-desktop |
| gerhard_ | No, that will not work, because the backup I thought I did was a copy of a symlink. So my dpkg-divert is actually /bin/echo |
| gerhard_ | sudo apt-get install --reinstall dpkg |
| gerhard_ | sudo apt-get download dpkg |
| gerhard_ | Where will that download dpkg? |
| gerhard_ | ok, in the actual folder |
| SlavekB | /var/cache/apt/archives |
| gerhard_ | sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite dpkg_1.16.1.2ubuntu7.1_amd64.deb |
| gerhard_ | I'll retry the former commands |
| gerhard_ | $ LANG=en_EN dpkg-divert --list|grep plasma |
| gerhard_ | local diversion of /usr/bin/plasma-desktop to /usr/bin/plasma-desktop.kde4 |
| gerhard_ | local diversion of /usr/bin/plasma to /usr/bin/plasma.kde4 |
| gerhard_ | $ LANG=en_EN sudo dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop |
| gerhard_ | No diversion 'local diversion of /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop', none removed. |
| SlavekB | LANG=en_EN sudo dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/share/plasma-desktop |
| SlavekB | LANG=en_EN sudo dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/share/plasma |
| SlavekB | Sorry, not /usr/share, but /usr/bin/ |
| SlavekB | LANG=en_EN sudo dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/bin/plasma |
| SlavekB | LANG=en_EN sudo dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /usr/bin/plasma-desktop |
| gerhard_ | I'll update and dist-upgrade again. Maybe the package is ok and the echo divert was the culprit. |
| gerhard_ | I'm sorry for the confusion. I had to check first if the backup was a symlink |
| gerhard_ | Then I'll try your diverts if that upgrade fails again. |
| gerhard_ | If it succeeds I guess then the echo workaround was the culprit. |
| SlavekB | I just hope that I can prepare the same problematic environment to be able to definitely fix problems with diverts :) |
| gerhard_ | apt-get update takes some time. |
| gerhard_ | SlavekB, maybe the divert in the preliminary package is already ok. |
| SlavekB | You was changed dpkg-divert to echo before the test preliminary packages? |
| gerhard_ | yes, because I didn't checked that it was no binary but a symlink. So the backup I did linked also to echo and the recovery of divert didn't take place. oh my bad.. |
| gerhard_ | But now I got a functional dpkg-divert :) |
| gerhard_ | Your package seems to work properly! |
| gerhard_ | I'm sorry for the confusion. |
| gerhard_ | Could it be, that en_EN is not supported on my system? |
| gerhard_ | perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: |
| gerhard_ | LANGUAGE = "de_DE.utf8", |
| gerhard_ | LC_ALL = "", |
| gerhard_ | LC_MESSAGES = "en_GB.utf8", |
| gerhard_ | LC_CTYPE = "en_GB.utf8", |
| gerhard_ | LANG = "en_EN" |
| gerhard_ | So that workaround was dangerous. :( |
| SlavekB | I do not know how it is on ubuntu, but on Debian helps: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| gerhard_ | I guess that omitting the LANG=en_EN wikll stop those perl warnings, but I'm blocked by apt-get update |
| gerhard_ | to proof that. |
| gerhard_ | SlavekB, that dist-upgrade was completely successful, so your package is ok. Thank you! |
| SlavekB | Before 3.5.13.2 will become the official version, you can expect some more updates... |
| gerhard_ | Is there some work going on for quanta+, or is that project abandoned? |
| SlavekB | To my knowledge, in Trinity is (for now) only maintained - no major news. |
| gerhard_ | ok, thanks. |
| gerhard_ | have a nice day, good bye! |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1509 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1509 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, GTK theme engine for Qt3 and TDE |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1510 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1510 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok: Can't open audio files with double-click or OpenWith... |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1511 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1511 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdelibs: Poor support for mp4/m4a audio mimetypes |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1463 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1463 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Launcher menu: Update numerous desktop files |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1512 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1512 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Akregator: Does not honor window splitter borders |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1513 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1513 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Editing KMail Recent Addresses not obvious or intuitive |
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| rzs19 | Ctrl+R rotates image, Ctrl+S should save it, but instead, image is rotated back to how it was before. This affects gwenview using debian wheezy with architecture i386. |
| rzs19 | Version: 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax2~wheezy |
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| SlavekB | rzs19: The problem with Gwenview is fixed in GIT hash 29976f7d. Please wait for the update package in 3.5.13.x branch. |
| SlavekB | The same bug was also in digikam and kipi-plugins (already fixed in GIT) - update will be soon. |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1506 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1506 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kcmshell displayconfig cannot save settings when gamma is not supported by xrandr |
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| tbottu | 10midenok@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 455 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=455 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, [patch] Storage media applet buttons are too large |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1291 from RESOLVED FIXED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1291 normal, P5, ---, mutantturkey, PATCHAVAIL, some kickoff menu bugs |
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| MutantTurkey | man i haven't been around here in a while... |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R_: what's up? |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: nice work on 3.5.12, can't wait to deploy it for my parents |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Hi |
| SlavekB | I'm trying to finish to release final version 3.5.13.2. |
| Xu_R_ | MutantTurkey: o/ Neither have I. |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: i'll be glad to see it released |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: yeah i just reap the benefits of tim, slavek and darrells hard work... |
| * Xu_R hasn't done anything this year, truthfully | |
| * MutantTurkey hsan't done anything this two years, truthfully | |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: got my first scientific research paper published |
| Xu_R | Nice! |
| MutantTurkey | yep :) |
| Xu_R | What is it on? |
| MutantTurkey | automated video tracking/detection of fruit flie mating and courtship levels using video footage from labs |
| MutantTurkey | basically right now they pay lab interns to watch flies run in circles, so we automated it |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.landesbioscience.com/journals/fly/article/24110/ |
| Xu_R | ooh, nice. automation is good. |
| MutantTurkey | yes |
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| rzs19 | SlavekB: thanks for the information :-) |
| rzs19 | MutantTurkey: are you there? |
| rzs19 | i need you |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz marked bug 1353 as a duplicate of bug 1334. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1353 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, System Settings -> Monitor & Display does not do anything useful and crashes |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1334 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KControl Monitor & Display module crash |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1514 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1514 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpowersave-nohal don't show battery level on Asus EEE |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1510 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1510 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] Amarok: Can't open audio files with double-click or OpenWith... |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1510 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1515 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1515 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror single clicking a folder in left pane ceases working after changing file types setting |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1508 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1508 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Qt3/TQt3 contains numerous threading data races |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1516 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1516 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDED/Ksmserver consume high CPU time during system idle |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1517 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1517 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ''Safely remove'' a usb disk is very long |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1518 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1518 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Pre-loading the next picture in Gwenview would make it more enjoyable to use |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1515 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1515 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror single clicking a folder in left pane ceases working after changing file types setting |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1204 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1204 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Amarok : Unable to select a play position with a FLAC file |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1519 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1519 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] Building tqt3 with -glibmainloop causes window settings to be ignored |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1520 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1520 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: all autotools packages do not build with automake >= 1.13 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1505 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1505 normal, P5, ---, albator78, REOPENED, kmix : icon does not change when mute is checked or unchecked |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1520 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1520 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: all autotools packages do not build with automake >= 1.13 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1521 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1521 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Tdesvn crashes. Crash occurs after a (successful) commit or if up to date. |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1520 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1520 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: all autotools packages do not build with automake >= 1.13 |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 399 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=399 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Missing libpython 2.6 error |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 20 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=20 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, LANG is unset in KDE |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 23 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=23 minor, P3, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: ksensors FTBFS on PPA |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Landscape PDF printed as portrait (and truncated) |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 447 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=447 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, LibreOffice does not open a document |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 307 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=307 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KTNef does not display pdf attachments |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 280 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=280 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Man page conflict among kdevelop-kde3 and kdevelop 4 |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 276 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=276 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Ubuntu Bug 642518 Also Exists in Trinity |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 267 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=267 minor, P4, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Spell check under kmail - multiple languages |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 264 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=264 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Returning from LDAP configuration blanks bottom of Contacts pane |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 263 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=263 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Navigation pane does not paint to bottom of page |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 256 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=256 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, error during install on existing ubuntu. systems seems ok otherwise |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 254 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=254 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Assign appointment to wrong calendar |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 250 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=250 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kleopatra fails to import .pfx file - does not prompt for password |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 239 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=239 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Some packages miss a non "-kde3" 'provides' |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 236 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=236 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, 15 minute appointments become 2 hours |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 235 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=235 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Konqueror web browser incorrectly displays certain sites |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 226 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=226 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, in ubuntu 10.04 the kicker-taskbar-compiz-kde3 is missing |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 224 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=224 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Context browser parses the page from wikipedia incorrectly. |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 223 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=223 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, klibido will not install |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 222 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=222 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Incorrect Konqueror behaviour (in file-manager mode) |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 217 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=217 normal, P4, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Some applications under wine didn't show the applications titlebar caption in KDEs taskbar |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 215 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=215 major, P3, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Wrong path in /opt/kde3/bin/guidance-power-manager, python module xf86misc not found |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 212 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=212 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Cannot disable "screen locking on resume" from lid closed |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 205 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=205 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Some applications need of packaging |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 202 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=202 major, P3, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, OpenOffice.org and Compiz upgrade/install, upon adding the kde3 repository |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 173 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=173 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, jockey neeeds to be packaged as trinity compatible |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 157 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=157 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kopete does not close temporary files |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 150 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=150 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Un-installing network-manager causes strange delays in Firefox |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 146 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=146 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KDE file filter bar doesn't refresh properly |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 815 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=815 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Upgrade from maverick to natty fails at initramfs |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 536 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=536 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KAudioCreator: Can't name last track |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 530 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=530 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, ktalkd-trinity should Provide: talkd |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 529 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=529 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Logout disfunction (10.10 Trinity-ent.) |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 512 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=512 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Knmap: Missing package |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 510 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=510 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, gcdmaster crashes opening files |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 509 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=509 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, audacious unable to add files to the playlist/ play files |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 507 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=507 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, root-pw not accepted in [Alt]+[F2] |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 501 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=501 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Sylpheed 3.0.2 crashes on saving an attachment |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 480 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=480 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Konqueror: Syncing a folder via SSH with bad proxy gives SIGSEGV |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 479 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=479 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Display section of kcontrol fails to run (not a libpython problem !) |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 477 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=477 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Konqueror crashed with Gnash Plugin |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 474 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=474 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Update manager in debian complains kde-config not found |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 532 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=532 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, konqueror looping indefinitely |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 463 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=463 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, add symlink /usr/bin/starttrinity to .deb package |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 460 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=460 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Zenity "radiolist" fails in Squeeze |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 457 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=457 major, P2, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] Kontact - switching off action doesn't turn off application |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 454 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=454 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kgtk - erroneous dependency |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 438 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=438 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kmail fails to poll mailbox |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 435 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=435 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, knetworkmanager option "Only use VPN Connection for ..." does not work. |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 434 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=434 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kscope is missing |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 430 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=430 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Poor/awkward navigation in menus |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 418 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=418 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kgtk2-wrapper iceweasel %u hangs when using padsp |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 413 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=413 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, unable to open file '/usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap' |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 412 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=412 normal, P3, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore: No such file or directory |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 408 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=408 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Conflict, when install basket from KDE4 and from trinity in debian squeeze |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 403 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=403 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kdialog --getopenfilename improperly handles multiple spaces in directory names |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 396 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=396 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KDevelop builds fail |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 395 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=395 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Close tab icon does not work on KDevelop |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 377 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=377 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, missing changelogs when using adept updater |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 370 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=370 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, problem to build khelpcenter search index |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 365 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=365 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, GPG Key and Repositories not Accessible |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 364 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=364 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kitchensync-kde3 install fails |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 362 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=362 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, inconsistency between fileligt and filelight-l10n-kde3 |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 361 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=361 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, "&" in appointments appear as & |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 359 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=359 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, cannot add IMAP resources for addressbook and calendar |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 356 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=356 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kontact displays alarms from previous day when first opened |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 340 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=340 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kbabel crashes opening a po file |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 284 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=284 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, recent documents menu does not work |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 201 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=201 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Konqueror reverts to "Icon View" |
| tbottu | 10eugenesan@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 434 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=434 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kscope is missing |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 99 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=99 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, No internationalization for system interface |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 89 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=89 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KOrganizer can't find std.ics nor save new events |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 87 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=87 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, opensync-plugin-kdepim package missing |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 71 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=71 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kde panel hiding - raise responds too slowly or sometimes not at all |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 69 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=69 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Jaunty AMD64 LiveCD Boot Failure |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 63 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=63 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, guidance-backends-kde3 - missing directory error shown in log file |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 53 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=53 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, restart a kde session with Synaptic running, disconnects KdeSudo |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 36 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=36 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Upgrading kdm-kde3 resets the default login manager to gdm |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 22 from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=22 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, libk3b3-extracodecs-kde3 doesn't provide mp3 support! |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 479 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=479 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Display section of kcontrol fails to run (not a libpython problem !) |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 357 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=357 major, P3, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, kdemenuedit crashes during icon assignment |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1453 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1453 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, TDM broken in R14 nightlies |
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| Space_Man | http://imgur.com/Qr8AFNg a bug with krename, it is using the & from the filename |
| Space_Man | I don't know if it as an old bug or part of 3.5.12.2 |
| Space_Man | 3.5.13.2 :P |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: when you return or wake up |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: Interesting bug. Similar behavior is with '%' contained in the name. |
| SlavekB | I suppose it's an older bug. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1519 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1519 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Building tqt3 with -glibmainloop causes window settings to be ignored |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Landscape PDF printed as portrait (and truncated) |
| SlavekB | Space_Man: Please, can you fill it as a new bug in Bugzilla? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 217 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=217 normal, P4, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Some applications under wine didn't show the applications titlebar caption in KDEs taskbar |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 447 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=447 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, LibreOffice does not open a document |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 224 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Component on bug 224 from tdemultimedia to non-core programs. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=224 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok Context browser parses the page from wikipedia incorrectly. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1522 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1522 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Improve useability of groupware wizard. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1156 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1156 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, *** glibc detected *** kded [tdeinit] --new-startup: corrupted double-linked list: 0x081eb0b0 *** |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1404 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1404 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Ark frequently crashes |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1520 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1520 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: all autotools packages do not build with automake >= 1.13 |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1415 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1415 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Amarok crashes immediately after startup |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1506 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1506 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kcmshell displayconfig cannot save settings when gamma is not supported by xrandr |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1523 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1523 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Tdesvn takes an awfully long time to fetch logs from server. |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 359 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=359 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, cannot add IMAP resources for addressbook and calendar |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1127 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1127 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, NEEDINFO, Kate: Add the ability to force Kate into MDI mode all the time |
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| tbottu | 10matism@bellsouth.net changed the Status on bug 276 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=276 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Ubuntu Bug 642518 Also Exists in Trinity |
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| ragedragon | hello the room, |
| ragedragon | firstly many thx for your TDE project and support |
| ragedragon | i would like to ask you if there is a package or code available to use krypt under TDE. |
| ragedragon | i'm using krypt to mount volumes with cryptsetup under kde |
| ragedragon | but krypt is depending of kdelibs |
| ragedragon | any idea please to replace krypt ? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1524 filed by ppisa4lists@pikron.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1524 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kaddressbook top panel background around searchline is not drawn. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1525 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1525 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Backporting KDE3 patches from openSUSE |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1525 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1525 enhancement, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, Backporting KDE3 patches from openSUSE |
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| ann | NICK ann |
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| SlavekB | ragedragon: If I know, in Trinity are encrypted media supported directly in kio. |
| ragedragon | SlavekB, good news thx |
| SlavekB | I do not know how it works, because I do not use it :) |
| ragedragon | ok thx will check docs about the enc. media under TDE |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 89 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=89 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, KOrganizer can't find std.ics nor save new events |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1526 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1526 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity crash handler hangs. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1226 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1226 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, KDM don't draw well the background, artifacts can be seen |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1527 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1527 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Package Request] qca-tls for RHEL-based distros |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1527 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1527 trivial, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, [Package Request] qca-tls for RHEL-based distros |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1528 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1528 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, R14 Tdm cannot start after a system upgrade from 3.5.13 kdm. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1529 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1529 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Upgrade from 3.5.13 does not replace kwalletmanager with tdewalletmanager |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1530 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1530 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Tde network-manager does not connect with vpnc |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1531 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1531 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kvpnc is useless as it is not possible to run as root. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1226 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1226 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, KDM don't draw well the background, artifacts can be seen |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1532 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1532 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Running nmap causes desktop sharing to crash and no backtrace is produced |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1139 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1139 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, R14.0 nightly ships tdmdistrc which refers to /etc/trinity/kdm... and overrides tdmrc. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1530 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1530 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Tde network-manager does not connect with vpnc |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1496 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1496 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, tdenetworkmanager cannot display wireless networks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1533 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1533 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail IMAP stuck after suspend |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1530 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1530 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Tde network-manager does not connect with vpnc |
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| Marius80 | hi |
| Marius80 | are there any informations available about the release date of the next version? |
| Marius80 | (talking about R14) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1516 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1516 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDED/Ksmserver consume high CPU time during system idle |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1534 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1534 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Ktorrent: Announce to all trackers |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1535 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1535 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KTorrent: Download in order |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1536 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1536 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KTorrent: Improved file priorities |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1530 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1530 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Tde network-manager does not connect with vpnc |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1537 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1537 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KBFX Get Themes points to a spam site |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | is there a ksensors sobstitute ? |
| SlavekB | kima? |
| SlavekB | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33257 |
| sacarde | ok |
| sacarde | and for kpdf ? |
| SlavekB | kpdf is part of Trinity |
| sacarde | ah |
| sacarde | kooka ? |
| SlavekB | $ aptitude search kooka-trinity |
| SlavekB | p kooka-trinity - scanner program for Trinity |
| SlavekB | :) |
| sacarde | in archlinux I dont find kooka-trinity |
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| sacarde_ | do you think that is possible to have in the same system kde4 and tde ? |
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| sacarde_ | tde 14 become stable? |
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| elcaset | sacarde_> do you think that is possible to have in the same system kde4 and tde ? <------ I believe so, yes. |
| elcaset | sacarde_> tde 14 become stable? <---- I don't think so. maybe someone else will know for sure. |
| elcaset | I use Mint KDE & Kubuntu mostly. I haven't used Arch, so I can't help with that. |
| sacarde_ | ok |
| sacarde_ | thanks |
| elcaset | your welcome |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1538 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1538 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KGet: Support for additional protocols |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1539 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1539 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok: Cannot find mp3 support |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1539 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1539 minor, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, Build Issue: Amarok: Cannot find mp3 support |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1540 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1540 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Package Request] Xine |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 460 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=460 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Zenity "radiolist" fails in Squeeze |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1540 from NEW to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1540 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, [Package Request] Xine |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 797 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=797 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13 needs ksmserver-trinity >= 4:3.5.13 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1347 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1347 minor, P5, ---, albator78, NEEDINFO, Mouse pointer not visible when TDE session gets locked. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1526 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1526 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Trinity crash handler hangs. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1508 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1508 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Qt3/TQt3 contains numerous threading data races |
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| astronix-1337 | Hi! |
| astronix-1337 | I'd like to install Trinity on my Ubuntu 12.04 machine (almost freshly bootstrapped), but the mirrors are sooo slow, it's almost impossible to even do a 'apt-get update'. Took me almost 5 minutes, while my DSL could theoretically download 6MByte/s ... |
| astronix-1337 | Are there any other mirrors? |
| astronix-1337 | -- |
| astronix-1337 | How do you guys even work with this stuff? It's really that awful. For years I have been trying to setup a new system with Trinity, but it never really worked. Now, for instance, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-trinity results in "The following packages have unmet dependencies", hence it can't be installed... |
| astronix-1337 | Why not simply rebuild KDE3? The patches needed are available on the net (Gentoo sunset repo, OpenSuSE sources, ...) . Create some nice, small packages of it and then share it on the net. I guess a lot of people would appreciate this instead of you working on this unstable stuff. |
| astronix-1337 | I don't want to be unfair and unkind. I just tell what is imho the truth. |
| astronix-1337 | I would do that, but I don't have enough time (still a strudent) and I am not that experienced in building KDE3 and its dependencies. |
| Space_Man | astronix-1337: which version of trinity are you trying to install? |
| astronix-1337 | The stable one |
| astronix-1337 | "For Precise [Ubuntu 12.04] LTS (v3.5.13.1)" |
| Space_Man | there should be several fast mirrors for 3.5.13.1 |
| Space_Man | maybe you've been redirected to the main trinity repo which is very slow |
| Space_Man | sadly I don't know where the mirrors are :( |
| astronix-1337 | I seem to have found a faster one, located in the UK. After looking for 3.5.13.1 directly in google. |
| astronix-1337 | I'm sorry to have said such things. I am always frustrated when doing linux |
| astronix-1337 | :-/ |
| Space_Man | there is a 3.5.13.2 version being developed which is only found on the main trinity repo |
| Space_Man | it is very, very slow |
| astronix-1337 | http://www.hensa.ac.uk/sites/trinitydesktop.org/trinity/ <-- 3.5.13.1 but extremely fast |
| astronix-1337 | doing a aptitude install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity now. there are some odd dependencie-issues. I don't know whether this stuff will work or not.. but let's try. I don't want to use opensuse... |
| astronix-1337 | yeah... 800kb/S :D |
| astronix-1337 | okay.. I am doing a reboot now. Have a nice day... Maybe I'll come here again, later... <ROGER> <CHrrrrrrr> |
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| bengalo-1337 | Hi, it's me again. |
| bengalo-1337 | KDM works, but there is no Trinity session to select and my keyboard doesn't work anymore. After a few seconds it doesn't do anything. I can' even with to a tty... |
| bengalo-1337 | I will try OpenSuSE for now. I don't want to have such an unstable system. Maybe in a few years the situation is bettter... I don't know. |
| bengalo-1337 | Good luck, anyway! :-) |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1505 from REOPENED to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1505 normal, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, kmix : icon does not change when mute is checked or unchecked |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1541 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1541 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: Gwenview FTBFS because header jpegint.h is not found |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1542 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1542 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Gradients in TDE R14 shows some granularity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1543 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1543 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] Konqueror context menu does not show Create New... menu option |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1521 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1521 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Tdesvn crashes. Crash occurs after a (successful) commit or if up to date. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1543 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1543 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Konqueror context menu does not show Create New... menu option |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1544 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1544 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdmtheme: crash when unselecting theme |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1544 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1544 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1544 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, tdmtheme: crash when unselecting theme |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1545 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1545 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tde-guidance: mountconfig does not handle LABEL correctly in fstab |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1545 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| sch-epel-01 | Hi! |
| sch-epel-01 | I've got a question : On which distro do you use Trinity? Which one would you recommend esspecially? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1545 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1545 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, tde-guidance: mountconfig does not handle LABEL correctly in fstab |
| Space_Man | sch-epel-01: I'm using ubuntu 12.10 but I don't have any preferences or recommendations |
| sch-epel-01 | Space_Man: How did you install Trinity? The servers are inopperable. |
| Space_Man | there is a new trinity version about to be released and it may be causing some problems |
| Space_Man | trinity 3.5.13.2 is nearly out |
| Space_Man | I installed ubuntu 12.10 lxde, added trinity and deleted lxde |
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| sch-epel-01 | Hm. |
| sch-epel-01 | Last time I tried to install Trinity on Ubuntu 12.04 it didn't work |
| sch-epel-01 | I was so fricking angry |
| sch-epel-01 | So I switched to Scientific Linux 6 (RedHat based) |
| sch-epel-01 | Intalled Trinity 3.5.13.1 through some british, fast mirror and it works fine. Mostly |
| sch-epel-01 | Beside the disadvantages of the enterprise os... |
| sch-epel-01 | I installed VLC from some odd repo and now I can't install music-player-daemon from another repo because the dependencies differ (they ship their own, updates ones) |
| sch-epel-01 | There were some hickups, but it's the best KDE3 experience that I had for years. |
| sch-epel-01 | (beside debian lenny on my powerbook g3, but that doesn't count) |
| Space_Man | there are a few livecd's listed here http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/LiveCDs |
| Space_Man | I think SlavekB made some other ubuntu livecd's but he's not here |
| Space_Man | slavekB is the guy behind trinity 3.5.13.2 |
| sch-epel-01 | Yeah, I heard about his repo |
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| sch-epel-01 | Good night! |
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| Space_Man | night |
| Space_Man | the 3.5.13.2 repo is very slow |
| Space_Man | the others 3.5.13.1 etc 'should' be fine |
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| SlavekB | ap-gupdate |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1546 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1546 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Accessing KControl display config creates kicc directory in the system root directory |
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| JotaMG | ah ah ah |
| JotaMG | Trinity Desktop is the best !!!!!!!!!!! |
| JotaMG | 8.419 B/s 1h 57min 13s |
| JotaMG | no more words needed |
| JotaMG | fuck Tim |
| JotaMG | bye |
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| SlavekB | Perhaps we should do a waiting list for downloading from the master server ;) |
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| JotaMG | just to explain better... |
| JotaMG | I dont give ashit to Trinity |
| SlavekB | JotaMG: I use cron-apt. |
| JotaMG | my problem is that I have many packages to upgrade, and I can not because the Trinity download speed us stopping my upgrade |
| JotaMG | Slavek thank you! you are ine of the few guys in Trinity I respect |
| SlavekB | Along with cron-apt for my updates are downloaded when the speed does not bother me. |
| SlavekB | Within a few days should be 3.5.13.2 final and will be distributed to mirrors. |
| JotaMG | I was away for some weeks from this computer and now I have lots of Debian upgrades... but I dont know how to do a parcial upgrade... everything else except Trinity |
| SlavekB | Yes, it is that all the packages have been built for final 3.5.13.2. |
| SlavekB | It remains to build several packages for armel. |
| SlavekB | See |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5030 |
| SlavekB | In any case, I recommend using cron-apt or apticron. |
| JotaMG | But Slavek do you want to lnow what bothers me? aproximatley 2 years ago, my company prposed to host Tim servers... and also sponsor some money... but, of course, Tim will need to let go some control... |
| JotaMG | guess what happen?? |
| JotaMG | for sure now Trinity could be in a more advanced state that is today... at least with faster servers |
| SlavekB | Oh, I see. |
| JotaMG | ok i will try to update this computaer latter on the week... |
| JotaMG | anyawy, I admire your work really, Slavek... one more time, Thank you!!! |
| SlavekB | Try to install cron-apt or apticron - they are really helpful. |
| JotaMG | ok I will try... |
| SlavekB | Thank you for your praise. :$ |
| JotaMG | I just upgarde mannually some Debian packages for now... like the kernel |
| Space_Man | can you delete or comment out the trinity repos? |
| Space_Man | and then update |
| JotaMG | I'm sure Tim is a very decent and nice guy, but, I dont think the way he leads this project is the best one to Trinity |
| JotaMG | of course! that will work Im so dumb |
| Space_Man | tim's problem is the lack of upload (outgoing) speed |
| JotaMG | will do that right now!! :-) |
| Space_Man | each update is several gb's of data and it takes a long time to send it to the mirrors |
| JotaMG | many time since working with debian... and I had forgot the basics of apt |
| Space_Man | it would be useful if there was some kind of torrent approach to using apt |
| Space_Man | then tim would only need to share 1 copy of the data and the mirrors would share it between themselves |
| JotaMG | But that will pose a security problem I think |
| Space_Man | maybe |
| Space_Man | idk |
| SlavekB | By the way, the entire apt source (my ppa) has about 16 GiB. |
| JotaMG | I'm sure if Trinity project do the marketing right, soon many companys will try to help... including the compaby I work for |
| JotaMG | ok I have my Debian packages upgrade... more than 200Mb... now time to restart |
| JotaMG | bye and thaks for your help |
| JotaMG | thanks I mean must reconfigure the keyboard |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 856 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=856 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Provide CD images for Ubuntu |
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| lagjav | hello |
| lagjav | can you tell me how can I install trinity on debian testing? sorry for my bad english |
| SlavekB | Current testing as Jessie? |
| lagjav | yes |
| SlavekB | It will now be a problem. |
| lagjav | yes? may I need wheezy? |
| SlavekB | As I noted from http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5052 for Jessie is now a kind of incompatibility that prevented use wheezy build. |
| SlavekB | For this reason, the need for Jessie separate builds. |
| SlavekB | see http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5053 |
| lagjav | ok, thanks. do you recomend me to wait or install trinity on wheezy? |
| SlavekB | For the stable branch 3.5.13.x for this moment I not plan to build for Jessie. Jessie is far too young and can change very quickly, than to be able to maintain a stable release. |
| SlavekB | Wheezy at this time seems like a good choice. |
| lagjav | thanks, can you give me wheezy repos? I can't see them on wiki |
| SlavekB | For stable branch 3.5.13.x? |
| lagjav | yes |
| SlavekB | Wheezy will be supported in 3.5.13.2, for which at this time is preparing an official release. |
| SlavekB | You can use the repository with a preliminary version of the packages (now final). |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main |
| lagjav | when it will be finished, I will need change the repositorie or is the same? |
| SlavekB | Official repository will be: |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu wheezy main |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/ubuntu wheezy main |
| lagjav | thanks you very much |
| SlavekB | At this time are built a few remaining packages and then will be performed synchronization to mirrors. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1504 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1504 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Konqueror context menu does not show file creation options with USB flash drives |
| lagjav | then, it will be official soon |
| lagjav | do you acept paypal donations? |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/donate.php |
| lagjav | ok |
| lagjav | I am going to leave, if I can I will do a donation by paypal. thanks for all |
| SlavekB | We also thank you for your support. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1469 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1469 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] tderadio: Fails to start correctly with numerous errors |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 692 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=692 major, P1, ---, mutantturkey, REOPENED, Kate: focus is broken when using the --use parameter |
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| ten44 | hello.. I cant install from the tde-3.5.13.1-ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386 livecd.. it loads up fine but when i launch the "install ubuntu 12.04.1 lts" shortcut it doesnt do anything...? |
| SlavekB | This is weird. |
| SlavekB | Right now I have tested it on a virtual machine and it works correctly. |
| SlavekB | How much memory do you have? |
| ten44 | SlavekB: hmm im actually playing with it in a vm as well |
| SlavekB | I've been using Linux KVM and I have allotted to virtual machine 1GiB RAM. |
| ten44 | virtualbox w/ 1gb ram as well |
| ten44 | ill try again w/ bigger mem size |
| ten44 | hmm well it's still not launching. maybe a bad iso. ill play with it some more. Thanks for checking it out too. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1469 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1469 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, [Regression] tderadio: Fails to start correctly with numerous errors |
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| tbottu | 10martin.hodges@getmail.no changed the Status on bug 1521 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1521 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Tdesvn crashes. Crash occurs after a (successful) commit or if up to date. |
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| weet | is there any way to enable right click dragging in tde? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1496 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1496 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdenetworkmanager cannot display wireless networks |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 692 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=692 major, P1, ---, mutantturkey, NEEDINFO, Kate: focus is broken when using the --use parameter |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1018 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1018 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Konqueror tooltip popup previews do not always show a thumbail image |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 692 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=692 major, P1, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, Kate: focus is broken when using the --use parameter |
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| lodger | hi |
| lodger | i can't install TDE version for Fedora18. when i try install it, the terminal say "[Errno 256] No more mirrors to try." |
| lodger | trinity-tdepim-kresources-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686: Downloaded package trinity-tdepim-kresources-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686, from trinity-3.5.13, but it was invalid. |
| lodger | trinity-libkiten1-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. |
| lodger | trinity-libkiten1-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686: Downloaded package trinity-libkiten1-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686, from trinity-3.5.13, but it was invalid. |
| lodger | trinity-tdegames-card-data-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. |
| lodger | trinity-tdegames-card-data-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686: Downloaded package trinity-tdegames-card-data-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686, from trinity-3.5.13, but it was invalid. |
| lodger | trinity-perl-dcop-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. |
| lodger | trinity-perl-dcop-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686: Downloaded package trinity-perl-dcop-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686, from trinity-3.5.13, but it was invalid. |
| lodger | trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686: Downloaded package trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686, from trinity-3.5.13, but it was invalid. |
| lodger | trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins-3.5.13.2-1.fc18.opt.i686: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. |
| lodger | the are too many of this error |
| Space_Man | lodger: which version of trinity are you trying to install? |
| Space_Man | there is a big 3.5.13.2 update being prepared and I suspect the mirrors are busy being updated |
| Space_Man | oops, now that I've looked a bit closer at your error spam I can see that you're using 3.5.13.2 |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: how long will it take to update the mirrors? |
| Space_Man | lodger: the trinity server could just be very busy |
| Space_Man | it is always slow, wait for 3.5.13.2 to be released |
| lodger | the last version: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/FedoraBinaryInstallation |
| SlavekB | Currently synchronize RPMs. DEB packages will then follow. |
| SlavekB | Last time synchronization deb packages lasted about 10 days. |
| lodger | ok i'll try tomorrow |
| lodger | goodbye from Italy. |
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| Space_Man | goodbye italy |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 457 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=457 major, P2, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, [Regression] Kontact - switching off action doesn't turn off application |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1419 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1419 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] 'dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface quit' does not kill process |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1547 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1547 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kopete: MSN Messenger gone |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1548 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1548 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kopete: Skype support |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1251 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1251 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] Numbers on KMail and Akregator icon too small |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1549 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1549 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, SVN view causes konqueror to crashe |
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| schreiberstein | Hi! When is 3.5.13.2 going to be released (I would be interested in Wheezy packages)? |
| SlavekB | All packages are already builded. I suppose today will begin copying to the mirrors. |
| SlavekB | However, due to the slow upload from the master server, it may take a week. |
| schreiberstein | Hm… I planned to install myself a new Wheezy system… Well, then I'll wait another week :-) |
| Space_Man | you could use 3.5.13.1 and then upgrade when 3.5.13.2 is released |
| SlavekB | I use 3.5.13.2 from my ppa ;) |
| schreiberstein | :D |
| schreiberstein | I thought 3.5.13.1 didn't support Wheezy#ß |
| schreiberstein | *? |
| SlavekB | Yes, Wheezy will be supported with 3.5.13.2. |
| schreiberstein | I found a mirror with RHEL6 3.5.13.2 packages… I guess I'll give this one a try |
| SlavekB | RPM packages are synchronized at this time. DEB packages will follow thereafter. |
| schreiberstein | After all, I am really happy to see some progress and faster mirrors. I always thought that there were no faster mirrors beside this ppa.quickbuild-one I have been working with Scientific Linux 6 and TDE 3.5.13 (.0) for a few weeks and really liked it, despite the down sides of an enterprise distribution |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1372 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1372 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: videodev.h is renamed in newer versions of video4linux |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1245 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1245 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KDM displays garbage |
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| simtech | Helloo |
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| fgdfgf | hai |
| fgdfgf | the packages to be released as 3.15.13.2 are the same packages that are in SlavekB's repos now? |
| SlavekB | Yes, exactly. |
| fgdfgf | hum |
| fgdfgf | so if i install from SlavekB now |
| fgdfgf | can i later switch to another mirror and get updates right? |
| SlavekB | trinity-keyring package will add the official apt sources - they will use a mirrors. |
| fgdfgf | you mean official debian apt sources? |
| SlavekB | official trinity apt sources for debian |
| fgdfgf | ok |
| fgdfgf | thx |
| fgdfgf | i have a couple of issues with 13.2 |
| fgdfgf | first, launching any program that requires root privileges from the menu does nothing |
| fgdfgf | asks for passwords and just show elastic cursor for a while |
| SlavekB | Is there anything listed in .xsession-errors? |
| fgdfgf | i'm in windows right now |
| fgdfgf | but i'll look into it and google whatever is in there |
| fgdfgf | second issue is that users can't automount autodetected disks in /media like they can in kde and xfce |
| fgdfgf | konqueror complains about lack of info to work with in fstab |
| fgdfgf | i understant it complaint |
| fgdfgf | but can't it do like xfce and kde? |
| SlavekB | Trinity 3.5.13.x branch uses HAL. On some distributions may make some problems. |
| fgdfgf | yeah |
| fgdfgf | that's what i suspected |
| fgdfgf | thanks |
| SlavekB | However, usually works in konqueorur open url media:/ |
| fgdfgf | i guess it gets installed as a dependency |
| fgdfgf | right? |
| SlavekB | Yes, hal is definitely installed. |
| fgdfgf | then i have a problem with it |
| fgdfgf | is it know to have problems under wheezy? |
| fgdfgf | known |
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| SlavekB | I have yet with wheezy only one machine. I've used it so far only one day and I did not notice any problems. |
| fgdfgf | ok |
| fgdfgf | windows ended its stuff |
| fgdfgf | i'm going back to linux |
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| fdfdfd | hi again |
| fdfdfd | there are sudo-related errors when i launch apps requiring root permisions in .xsession-errors |
| fdfdfd | usage: sudo [-D level] -h | -K | -k | -V usage: sudo -v [-AknS] [-D level] [-g groupname|#gid] [-p prompt] [-u user name|#uid] usage: sudo -l[l] [-AknS] [-D level] [-g groupname|#gid] [-p prompt] [-U user name] [-u user name|#uid] [-g groupname|#gid] [command] usage: sudo [-AbEHknPS] [-r role] [-t type] [-C fd] [-D level] [-g groupname|#gid] [-p prompt] [-u user name|#uid] [-g groupname|#gid] |
| fdfdfd | seems like sudo is being called incorrectly |
| SlavekB | I see. The package kdesudo-trinity you have installed? If yes, try to uninstall it. |
| fdfdfd | i have installed sudo-trinity |
| fdfdfd | from your repos |
| SlavekB | Its ok. |
| fdfdfd | not kddesudo-trinity |
| fdfdfd | no |
| fdfdfd | wait |
| fdfdfd | kdesudo-trinity and sudo-trinity are both installed |
| SlavekB | It could be that if is not kdesudo installed, is called su instead of sudo. |
| fdfdfd | it is installed |
| SlavekB | Try to uninstall kdesudo-trinity. |
| fdfdfd | weird |
| fdfdfd | launching kuser works |
| fdfdfd | launching synaptic doesn't |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1550 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1550 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, K3B crashes when transcoding bit-reduced audio files. |
| SlavekB | It seems that sudo try to interpret parameters designed for the synaptic. |
| SlavekB | This is obviously a mistake. Please, can you fill bug report? |
| fdfdfd | the command in the menu is just "synaptic" |
| fdfdfd | no parameters |
| SlavekB | strange |
| fdfdfd | yep |
| fdfdfd | i'm going to try only kdesudo-trinity and sudo-trinity |
| fdfdfd | as soon as apt finishes installing some stuff being downloaded from your repos |
| fdfdfd | they could be faster btw |
| fdfdfd | lol |
| SlavekB | Packages will soon be synchronized to the mirrors - then it will download with acceptable speed :) |
| fdfdfd | i know |
| fdfdfd | just kidding |
| fdfdfd | E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt0-ruby1.8-trinity_4%3a3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0_i386.deb: intentando sobreescribir `/usr/share/man/man1/rbqtapi.1.gz', que está también en el paquete ruby-qt4 4:4.8.4-1 |
| fdfdfd | trinity package fighting with kde4 package? |
| fdfdfd | "intentado sobreescribir" = trying to overwrite |
| SlavekB | Oops. This is annoying. |
| SlavekB | Try to add divert: dpkg-divert --package libqt0-ruby1.8-trinity --rename --add /usr/share/man/man1/rbqtapi.1.gz |
| SlavekB | It's not a solution but a workaround that might help. |
| fdfdfd | yep |
| fdfdfd | that did the trick |
| fdfdfd | uninstalling kdesudo-trinity didn't work |
| fdfdfd | can i uninstall sudo-trinity safely? |
| fdfdfd | apt wants to remove kde-trinity and kde-core-trinity when told to apt-get remove sudo-trinity |
| SlavekB | sudo-trinity leave installed. |
| SlavekB | It may not cause problems. |
| fdfdfd | ok |
| fdfdfd | so i fill bug report? |
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| SlavekB | Yes. Not only for the synaptic problem, but also for the problem of the conflict libqt0-ruby1.8-trinity × kde4. |
| fdfdfd | ok |
| fdfdfd | let's go |
| fdfdfd | oh shit i need an account |
| SlavekB | Although for the 3.5.13.2 bug could not be fixed, but it is important to fix it for the upcoming R14 branch. |
| fdfdfd | yep |
| fdfdfd | it's strange |
| fdfdfd | it can launch trinity and kde4 apps as root |
| fdfdfd | which component should i fill bug against for the root launch? |
| fdfdfd | tdebase? |
| SlavekB | Ano. |
| SlavekB | Yes :$ |
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| fdfdfd | is it debian specific? |
| SlavekB | I think it is not debian specific |
| fdfdfd | ok |
| fdfdfd | but the libqt0-ruby is |
| fdfdfd | right? |
| SlavekB | Yes. |
| fdfdfd | which component for it? |
| SlavekB | It is debian + ubuntu specific. |
| fdfdfd | ok |
| pioneera30k | SlavekB: Hi! Are the 3.5.13.2 Debian packages uploaded yet? |
| SlavekB | tdebindings. |
| fdfdfd | nice |
| fdfdfd | severity? |
| SlavekB | may be normal |
| SlavekB | pioneera30k: Packages are still only in my ppa |
| fdfdfd | Can't launch non-Trinity/KDE apps requiiring root permissions from the menu |
| fdfdfd | correct summary? |
| SlavekB | Ok. |
| pioneera30k | Okay. Is your PPA private, or could I download packages from it? |
| SlavekB | I'm waiting for Tim to do copy packages to the official repository. |
| SlavekB | My ppa is public. |
| SlavekB | See instructions on: |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis |
| pioneera30k | Thank you very much. I'm currently on a X-less Debian machine, where I'd like to install Trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1551 filed by fumadordeducados@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1551 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Can't launch non-Trinity/KDE apps requiring root permissions from the menu |
| pioneera30k | A question : Why don't you use Cannoncial's launchpad for building and redistributing your packages? |
| fdfdfd | oh yeah that was me |
| SlavekB | pioneera30k: A complete repository includes almost 18 GiB. |
| pioneera30k | Is there a limit on launchpad? |
| SlavekB | The default limit is 2 GiB. :) |
| fdfdfd | i can't see the tdebindings component |
| fdfdfd | should i fill against tdelibs? |
| SlavekB | Give prefer tdesdk. |
| pioneera30k | Oh... That's bad. It would be nice if Cannoncial would lift that limit for the trinity-project. I mean, come on, It's just yet another 18GB |
| pioneera30k | SlavekB: After adding the slavek-banko repo to my sources.list, do I have to include another PPA for installing Trinity? On the website it says "Dependencies : Trinity xxxxx" |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1552 filed by fumadordeducados@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1552 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, libqt0-ruby1.8-trinity conflicting with ruby-qt4 |
| fdfdfd | fuck yeah |
| SlavekB | For wheezy not need any other repository. |
| pioneera30k | That's great |
| pioneera30k | Which meta-package shall I install? |
| pioneera30k | desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity? |
| SlavekB | Friends, I'm sorry, but I have to leave for a while now... |
| pioneera30k | Have a nice day/night then! |
| fdfdfd | bye slavek |
| fdfdfd | thank you very much |
| SlavekB | I'll be back in about an hour... |
| pioneera30k | Yeah, thank you very much, too |
| pioneera30k | I'm downloading and installing it right now, I'll report if everything worked out for me |
| pioneera30k | :-) |
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| pioneera30k | Well... At least dependencie rsolving worked this time :-) |
| pioneera30k | yay! 56k speed ;D |
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| pioneera30k | welcome back, SlavekB |
| SlavekB | hi |
| SlavekB | Downloaded and installed successfully? |
| pioneera30k | Not yet, but I am getting closer to it. 75% completed, 0-35kb/s . |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1372 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1372 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: videodev.h is renamed in newer versions of video4linux |
| pioneera30k | irssi is a nice client |
| SlavekB | I'm using IRC protocol in Kopete. |
| pioneera30k | I never used Kopete that often. I prefered konversation. |
| SlavekB | I use Kopete primarily on jabber protocol, and so I began to use it also on irc, so I do not have two different clients. |
| pioneera30k | That's convenient |
| pioneera30k | Unfortunately none of my friends uses that. Just Facebook or skype :-/ |
| SlavekB | These are the things to which I shall successfully avoiding :) |
| pioneera30k | Though I have to admit that I like Facebook, too. If someone has an account on Facebook, it's really easy to contact them. Unlike E-Mail, etc. |
| pioneera30k | I'd like to stay in touch with my friends, hence there is no other option than using 'modern-stuff' |
| pioneera30k | 85%... slowly, but steadily |
| SlavekB | Yes, yes, master server has a slow upload and it seems at this time there goes synchronization RPM packages for version 3.5.13.2 to the mirrors. |
| pioneera30k | Yeah. It's really sad that the main mirror is so slow. apt-get update takes ages. But anyway... Once the mirrors are synced, I'll pick a quick one. |
| pioneera30k | The only thing that matters for me is a working KDE3 :D-) |
| pioneera30k | err |
| pioneera30k | :-) |
| pioneera30k | 92% :-) |
| SlavekB | Inexorably getting closer to the finals :) |
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| pioneera30k | :-) |
| pioneera30k | installing!! |
| pioneera30k | :D |
| pioneera30k | damn... another 20 minutes for kde-i18n-de :-/ |
| pioneera30k | totally forgot about that |
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| pioneera30k | installed it and I'll reboot now. see you soon, guys! |
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| wheezykosky | Hi! It's me - pioneera30k |
| wheezykosky | Good news : Trinity works fine (no crashes so far) |
| wheezykosky | I was able to use kdesu, to change kdm-settings using root password in kcontrolcenter |
| wheezykosky | I am able to mount my ext2 SD card, but not my Apple HFS+ harddrive (no permission) - I guess I have to add myself to some odd group |
| wheezykosky | sound also doesn't work, but that's due to my USB DAC. It needs some special treatment, I guess |
| wheezykosky | I have to add that I am not using the stock kernel. I am using my custom kernel (3.4.50) with a self-made .config |
| SlavekB | It might interest you to know that in wheezy-backports is already kernel 3.9. |
| wheezykosky | Thanks, but I am really satisfied with this longterm kernel |
| wheezykosky | i am a zfs user, hence i hesitate to try the newest kernels |
| wheezykosky | newer kernels sometimes break zfsonlinux compatibility |
| wheezykosky | Yay! compiz runs! fu** yea! |
| wheezykosky | though there is no compit-settings-manager (ccsm) available and fusion-icon-trinity can't be installed because of unknown dependencie (python-compizconfig-trinity) |
| wheezykosky | rebooting now. fricking alsa |
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| asdasdsa | hi |
| asdasdsa | i have a problem with konqueror |
| asdasdsa | it can't mount stuff in media:/ as user |
| asdasdsa | as root works ok |
| asdasdsa | "permission denied" |
| SlavekB | Is your users listed in group plugdev? |
| asdasdsa | wait |
| asdasdsa | it is |
| SlavekB | Trinity stable branch 3.5.13.x or development R14? |
| asdasdsa | 13.2 |
| SlavekB | Packages hal and pmount are installed? |
| asdasdsa | yyes |
| asdasdsa | i can mount partitions as root |
| asdasdsa | not as user |
| asdasdsa | i guess i'm not missing anything |
| asdasdsa | the error is about permissions |
| asdasdsa | ? |
| asdasdsa | it's driving me mad |
| SlavekB | Normally, it should be sufficient to have hal, pmount and users in group plugdev. |
| asdasdsa | Permissions denied<p>Please ensure that:<br>1. You have permission to access this device.<br>2. This device node is not listed in /etc/fstab.</p> |
| asdasdsa | that's the error |
| SlavekB | It is possible that you have in /etc/fstab entries that could be applied to newly connected disk? |
| asdasdsa | including tags |
| asdasdsa | no |
| asdasdsa | in fstab there is just my linux and swap partitions |
| asdasdsa | cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> # / was on /dev/sda2 during installation UUID=32dc4dba-85e7-4be2-8364-f357f0ab08ef / |
| asdasdsa | well it didn't paste right |
| asdasdsa | but just /dev/sda2 |
| asdasdsa | which is my linux partition |
| asdasdsa | and /dev/sda5, which is my swap partition |
| SlavekB | Ok, just nothing that should be applied to newly connected disk. |
| asdasdsa | exactly |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, at this time I do not have any more ideas ... and I need to go to sleep :) |
| asdasdsa | that's ok |
| asdasdsa | have a good sleep |
| SlavekB | Thanks |
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| asdasd | hi |
| asdasd | how is it that i can't mount fixed hdd partitions as user but i can as root? |
| asdasd | pmount works as user |
| asdasd | and removable driver are working ok as well |
| asdasd | it is just fixed drives |
| asdasd | debian wheezy btw |
| asdasd | i'm talking about media:/ in konqueror |
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| wheezykosky | hi |
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| wheezykosky | goofbye folks |
| wheezykosky | *good |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | I install tde-3.5.13 on my archlinux64 |
| sacarde | with some kde4 packages |
| sacarde | I use kmail from tde-tdepim |
| sacarde | but I don view any icons |
| sacarde | http://digilander.libero.it/sacarde/np/kmail3.png |
| sacarde | can you help me? |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | I install tde-3.5.13 on my archlinux64 |
| sacarde | with some kde4 packages |
| sacarde | I use kmail from tde-tdepim |
| sacarde | but I don view any icons |
| sacarde | http://digilander.libero.it/sacarde/np/kmail3.png |
| sacarde | can you help me? |
| sacarde | . |
| sacarde | is right address to mailinglist? |
| sacarde | trinity-users-subscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net ? |
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| sacarde | is right address to mailinglist? |
| sacarde | trinity-users-subscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net ? |
| SlavekB | sacarde: Yes, that's correct address. |
| sacarde | I try.... but ... |
| sacarde | trinity-users-subscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net; Failed; 5.7.1 (delivery not authorized, message refused) |
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| rocker5 | Hello. When I try to open apps like Ubuntu Software Center, it doesn't open. running from terminal says the I have both gtk 2.x and gtk 3.x symbols which is not supported. I have not installed anything, this is a fresh install of precise except updated. how to fix this, and will trinity 13.2 fix this issue? |
| rocker5 | by the way, where is the changelog for the new trinity 13.2? |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13_2 |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13_2_Changelog |
| rocker5 | thank you |
| rocker5 | i'm really enjoying trinity except for the issue with gtk apps |
| SlavekB | If you have installed kgtk-qt3-trinity, try to uninstall it and then logout / login. |
| rocker5 | okay, I'll check for that package. I've installed nothing manually except kubuntu-desktop-trinity and kubuyntu-defaults-settings-trinity. but I read that that might make me lose all open/save dialogs in apps? |
| rocker5 | that would be horrible if i couldn't save my documents and web pages |
| sacarde | SlavekB, to subscribe mailinglist I have to send messages empty, without object, is true? |
| SlavekB | Yes, but kgtk-qt3 works like LD_PRELOAD library, so it can cause various problems. |
| SlavekB | sacarde: Yes, it should be so. |
| SlavekB | I'm sorry, I have now gone. I'll be back in about 1.5 hour. |
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| eodchop | Hey guys. Anyone know why the Fedora 18 repos are broken fro trinity desktop? |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/newsentry.php?entry=2013.06.25 |
| eodchop | That would probably make sense then wouldnt it? thank you for the update and congrats on your second stable release. |
| SlavekB | Upload from master server is slow, so it takes a few days. |
| eodchop | thanks for the info. I will check back in a few days. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1419 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1419 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, [Regression] 'dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface quit' does not kill process |
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| sacarde | hi |
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| sacarde | I try to migrate kmail from a system with kdemod3 to tde-kmail |
| sacarde | but when I start tde-kmail I have error: "could not start process pop3" |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | someone use kmail in system 64bit? |
| sacarde | I have error: could not start process pop3 |
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| sacarde | I run kmail in kde4 environment |
| SlavekB | sacarde: Please first tell me about the distribution Arch, how make packages. Are builded from sources - from current GIT tree, or pre-build binary packages? |
| sacarde | at this moment ... I dont know |
| sacarde | I can ask in archlinux chan |
| sacarde | in kmail if I use IMAP all is OK |
| sacarde | pop3 ko |
| sacarde | in 32bit all is OK |
| sacarde | but in 32bit I dont have kde4 |
| sacarde | only tde |
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| SlavekB | sacarde: It is very important to know how the packages are created. As far as I know, packages prepared by David C. Rankin a long time ago. If it is a binary packages then are very obsolete. |
| wheezykosky | Are you talking about the ArchLinux packages? They haven't seen a single update since September 2012 (afair). New packages have been announced to come at 9th of January, but nothing happened yet :-( |
| wheezykosky | Guess that's why I've switched to Debian :D |
| SlavekB | Yes about ArchLinux packages. |
| wheezykosky | I once tried to build Trinity using his scripts. It was a true nightmare. I always encountered dependencie issues (incompatibility) because the Arch-guys updated this and that package. Arch must be a PITA for pkg-maintainers |
| SlavekB | The only currently maintained packages for the stable branch are DEB packages for Debian and Ubuntu and RPM packages for many different RPM distributions. |
| wheezykosky | Unfortunately |
| wheezykosky | Though I can recommend RHEL6 with Trinity. Worked great |
| wheezykosky | But it would of course be better to have some Arch packages. I guess some Arch users would appreciate this. |
| SlavekB | In R14 branch and also in v3.5.13.x branch was incorporated many patches to solve compatibility with external libraries. |
| SlavekB | But if Arch packages are still on time in August 2012, then not contain these patches. |
| wheezykosky | Hm :( |
| wheezykosky | Couldn't one build a static binary version of Trinity, which can simply be untar'ed at /opt and is distro independent? |
| SlavekB | Interesting idea. |
| wheezykosky | One would need a script which adds sth. like /opt/trinity-static/bin to $PATH by creating a file in /etc/profile.d + adding shared library paths to /etc/ld.so.conf (this might not be necessary, though) |
| wheezykosky | I wrote a PKGBUILD package for an ArchLinux-like LFS-distribution a few years ago to do that stuff for GNOME2 |
| wheezykosky | http://pastebin.com/NwwS23L0 |
| wheezykosky | (Though I wasn't able to get my self built GNOME 2.32.1 to run :-/ - but I learned some stuff about GNU/Linux, hence it was worth it) |
| wheezykosky | (The project I attented also tried to build kde 3.5.10 (back in 2011), but we suffered hard from glibc changes, which we were not able to cope with.) |
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| sacarde | last source are this? http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/tde/src3513/ ? |
| SlavekB | These are just a very old source code. From the period between 3.5.13.0 and 3.5.13.1. |
| sacarde | ah |
| SlavekB | The latest, for at this time released by 3.5.13.2, are on: |
| SlavekB | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/releases/3.5.13.2/ |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1419 from RESOLVED WORKSFORME to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1419 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, [Regression] 'dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface quit' does not kill process |
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| fgdgfd | so how is the release going? |
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| SlavekB | During these days are copied Debian and Ubuntu packages to the mirrors. |
| fgdgfd | nice |
| fgdgfd | what is the completion rate now? |
| fgdgfd | you now slavek |
| fgdgfd | i finally fixed the permission denied error in konqueror when mounting as user |
| wheezykosky | Is there something like a progress bar? How much percent of syncinc is done? |
| fgdgfd | i spent 2 days fighting with polkit |
| fgdgfd | and finally it turned out to be a debian patch in hal |
| fgdgfd | named 10_nonpolkit-mount-policy.patch |
| wheezykosky | fgdgfd: If I may ask how? I encountered the same problem on Gebian Wheezy amd64 |
| wheezykosky | *Debian |
| fgdgfd | i had to recompile from source removing that patch and now konqueror is mounting fine |
| fgdgfd | yep |
| fgdgfd | that's in debian wheezy |
| fgdgfd | but it will be enough to compile and just replace /usr/lib/hal-mount-storage |
| wheezykosky | Oh my god... Will this issue be addressed by upstream? |
| fgdgfd | or something like that |
| fgdgfd | nope |
| fgdgfd | i guess |
| fgdgfd | it's a debian issue |
| fgdgfd | not a trinity issue |
| fgdgfd | the patch is removed in ubuntu and opensuse |
| wheezykosky | Coudln't Trinity provide their own hal version? I mean, hal isn't used by any Debian package, anyway. |
| fgdgfd | but it is still there in debian |
| fgdgfd | i dunno |
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| sacarde | hi |
| wheezykosky | hi sacarde |
| fgdgfd | hi sacade |
| sacarde | I discover that in archlinux, tde is without mantainer |
| fgdgfd | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/528907 |
| wheezykosky | Would you upload your /usr/lib/hal-mount-storage ? I don't like to mess with debian package building. I would highly appreciate it |
| fgdgfd | that's the bug report in ubuntu |
| wheezykosky | sacarde: Unofrtunatley :-/ |
| fgdgfd | the fix is in the comments |
| sacarde | I could try to install rpm ... |
| fgdgfd | but don't mess with package building |
| fgdgfd | just compile and the sudo cp hal-storage-mount |
| fgdgfd | the effect is immediate |
| fgdgfd | there is no need to reboot |
| wheezykosky | that'S cool |
| fgdgfd | yep |
| wheezykosky | Yeah, I guess hal-storage-mount is called whenever a user tries to mount sth. |
| fgdgfd | yep |
| fgdgfd | but that patch in debian makes the non-user-mount policy hardcoded |
| fgdgfd | it denies permission regardless of actual system policies |
| Fat-Zer_ | hi. what's are currently plans for R14 release? |
| fgdgfd | yep |
| fgdgfd | where do yo want it uploaded? |
| fgdgfd | mine is 686 |
| fgdgfd | not amd64 |
| fgdgfd | but it is easy to compile it |
| wheezykosky | Did you mean me? |
| wheezykosky | No, I am running pure amd64, but I'll build it myself then. :-) Thanks anyway |
| wheezykosky | Yes, I'll do that once I found the patch on that launchpad site |
| fgdgfd | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219996 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 219996: was not found. |
| fgdgfd | see comment #5 |
| fgdgfd | but don't dpkg it |
| wheezykosky | fgdgfd: Awesome! Sounds promising! Thank you very much! :-) |
| fgdgfd | just remove the line from /debian/patches series and build |
| fgdgfd | ./configure and make |
| fgdgfd | then copy hal-storage-mount to its place |
| wheezykosky | Yeah, but I could also install it and deploy the freshly created package on my other machines |
| fgdgfd | yep |
| fgdgfd | true |
| fgdgfd | but it is a mess |
| fgdgfd | it compiles 6 or 7 packages |
| fgdgfd | and dpkg complains about changed code and stuff |
| wheezykosky | I haven't done any package management with Debian yet. I should. I should. This seems to be very useful. Packaging at ArchLinux was much easier + better, imho. |
| wheezykosky | fgdgfd: Okay! Then I'll do it your way |
| fgdgfd | well |
| fgdgfd | it is better to have your debs and install wherever yo want |
| fgdgfd | but i found those issues |
| fgdgfd | try to make the debs |
| fgdgfd | if you suceed, then it's better |
| wheezykosky | *if not, screw it! :D |
| wheezykosky | ... |
| wheezykosky | Anyway. |
| fgdgfd | lol |
| fgdgfd | that's the road to success |
| wheezykosky | :-) |
| wheezykosky | I'll try that stuff later. Need to go to the grocery store now. |
| wheezykosky | See you in a moment. |
| fgdgfd | ok |
| wheezykosky | Btw. if someone is interested in a ZFS-capable kernel (builtin), I wrote a HOW-TO for it. : http://www.blog.schreiberstein.de/ ; Scroll down a bit to reach it. I can really recommend ZFSonlinux |
| fgdgfd | nice |
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| MobileTurkey | sacarde: hey just got your email |
| MobileTurkey | which packages did you install or are you building it manually? |
| Fat-Zer_ | MobileTurkey: hi, what's are current plans for R14 release? |
| MobileTurkey | Fat-Zer_: do you read the ML? |
| Fat-Zer_ | nope, haven't read it for a while... |
| sacarde | MobileTurkey, I install binary from repo |
| MobileTurkey | on what distribution? |
| sacarde | archlinux64 |
| MobileTurkey | where were those packages? |
| MobileTurkey | I wasn't aware anyone was maintaining them |
| sacarde | http://archlinux.us.to/3.5.13/$arch |
| sacarde | do you think is possible install in arch from rpm ? |
| sacarde | binary |
| MobileTurkey | No I would not do that. |
| sacarde | I try this because kmail |
| MobileTurkey | Ah |
| sacarde | I like file sequential |
| MobileTurkey | yeah |
| sacarde | dont like db |
| MobileTurkey | me neither |
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| Fat-Zer_ | can I open new or reopen resolved bugs about some build-issues-related moments during soft-freeze? or I'm not supposed to? |
| MobileTurkey | you can open bugs yes |
| MobileTurkey | doesn't mean they'll make it into the relase |
| MobileTurkey | but also consider if they are build issues they might |
| sacarde | bug in archlinux ? |
| Fat-Zer_ | ok... great... |
| Fat-Zer_ | thanks |
| wheezykosky | back |
| MobileTurkey | waddup |
| MobileTurkey | Xu_R: what's up man? |
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| schreiberstein | Hi there, MobileTurkey. Long time no see |
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| AikiLinux | Hi, anyone else having issue updateing the trinity desktop on ubuntu precise ? |
| MobileTurkey | I did, but it was fine on debian |
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| AikiLinux | i keep getting "404 Not Found" on the packages |
| fgdgfd | Binary packages are currently being uploaded to the main TDE archive, which may cause temporary disruption to new installations of TDE |
| fgdgfd | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ |
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| schreiberstein | Hi |
| schreiberstein | Just for clarification : I am wheezycowski or whatever I called myself |
| schreiberstein | Anyway.. |
| fgdgfd | hi schreiberstein |
| schreiberstein | fgdgfd: hi there. |
| schreiberstein | Btw. I was unable to complete building, yet. |
| fgdgfd | did you test removing the hal patch? |
| fgdgfd | oh well |
| schreiberstein | configure-script whined about missing polkit dependencie |
| fgdgfd | yes |
| schreiberstein | and building via dpkg-builddeb (?) didn't worked |
| schreiberstein | *work |
| fgdgfd | you should install any dependencies missing |
| schreiberstein | I did. apt-get blabla build-dep blabla |
| schreiberstein | it installed a whole bunch of packages, but this policykit one seems to be missing |
| fgdgfd | there are dependencies missing after that command |
| fgdgfd | yes |
| schreiberstein | Hm :-/ |
| fgdgfd | might be de policykit-dev packages |
| fgdgfd | the |
| * schreiberstein tries it again... | |
| fgdgfd | also try apt-cache search dch and instal debscriptwhatever |
| schreiberstein | I installed dch, but the method he described didn'T work :-/ |
| schreiberstein | the same error |
| fgdgfd | then installl that package |
| schreiberstein | now it's whining about consolekit. Shall I disable it, or is trinity still using it? I heard that it's deprecated |
| schreiberstein | (well, like HAL ^^) |
| fgdgfd | install consolekit-dev packages as well |
| schreiberstein | I did... It now whines about policykit again. There is no 'policykit-dev' package... Still looking for it |
| fgdgfd | lol |
| fgdgfd | search for polkit and install all 4 packages ending in -dev |
| schreiberstein | No |
| fgdgfd | ? |
| schreiberstein | I installed 'sudo apt-get install libpolkit-agent-1-dev libpolkit-backend-1-dev libpolkit-gobject-1-dev ' |
| fgdgfd | there is 1 missing |
| fgdgfd | qt |
| schreiberstein | I don't want to install the remaining polkit-qt-dev package. Man, it pulls 200MBs of fricking QT4 dependencies |
| schreiberstein | Why is it that important? |
| fgdgfd | i dunno |
| fgdgfd | paste the error |
| schreiberstein | " |
| schreiberstein | checking whether to rebuild gperf header files... checking for POLKIT... no |
| schreiberstein | configure: error: PolicyKit not explicitly disabled and no PolicyKit found |
| fgdgfd | it whined about that to me |
| fgdgfd | but built ok |
| schreiberstein | maybe I'll have to add a --with-polkit= path? Looking through ./configure --help .... |
| fgdgfd | maybe |
| schreiberstein | No.. just a "--enable-policy-kit" flag |
| schreiberstein | Hm... |
| schreiberstein | I don't know. What am I doing wrong? |
| schreiberstein | I got to eat dinner now. See you in a moment ;-) |
| fgdgfd | ok |
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| fgdgfd | i'm going to try myself in a virtual machine |
| schreiber-afk | :) |
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| fgdgfd | schreiber-afk: with --disable-policy-kit builds ok |
| fgdgfd | but maybe just installing the ubuntu package might be easier |
| fgdgfd | i mean |
| fgdgfd | just libhal-storage1_0.5.14-8ubuntu1_i386.deb |
| fgdgfd | amd64 in your case |
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| schreiberstein | fgdgfd: Well. It might build well, but does it work? |
| fgdgfd | yes |
| fgdgfd | try the ubuntu package |
| schreiberstein | build succeded |
| fgdgfd | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/hal/libhal-storage1_0.5.14-8ubuntu1_amd64.deb |
| schreiberstein | okay. I hope it works |
| schreiberstein | Install worked fine. Let's see if it works. |
| fgdgfd | try copying just hal-storage-mount |
| schreiberstein | Mounting still doesn't work with that package. Just FYI. I'll copy the hal-storage-thingy |
| fgdgfd | FFFFFFFUUUUUU |
| schreiberstein | The hell? |
| fgdgfd | doesn't work? |
| schreiberstein | I installed this package : http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/hal/libhal-storage1_0.5.14-8ubuntu1_amd64.deb |
| schreiberstein | But the situation didn't change |
| fgdgfd | and with the new hal-storage-mount? |
| schreiberstein | I am copying the freshly built one to /usr/bin at the moment |
| fgdgfd | ok |
| fgdgfd | that will make it |
| fgdgfd | that's the offender |
| fgdgfd | if you have disabled the debian patch, disks should mont now |
| fgdgfd | *mount |
| schreiberstein | so, i copied "./tools/.libs/hal-storage-mount" from build directory to /usr/bin |
| schreiberstein | But I still can'T mount my HFS+ Macintosh Harddrives |
| schreiberstein | I have to add, mounting FAT32 USB Sticks worked even before I did this HAL-stuff |
| fgdgfd | damn |
| schreiberstein | The problem only persists with HFS+ Harddrives |
| fgdgfd | the error is still permission denied? |
| schreiberstein | It says : Permissions denied<p>Please ensure that:<br>1. You have permission to access this device.<br>2. This device node is not listed in /etc/fstab.</p> |
| fgdgfd | yes |
| schreiberstein | Indeed |
| fgdgfd | that's the error |
| fgdgfd | have you removed 10-nonpolkit whatever from /debian patches/series? |
| schreiberstein | It's the same as before |
| schreiberstein | But even running hal-storage-mount on it's own throws out error |
| schreiberstein | Yes, I did it |
| fgdgfd | then the error should be gone |
| schreiberstein | https://pastebin.com/yadvZTAX |
| schreiberstein | Yeah, but apparently -> It isn't. Gosh darn it. |
| schreiberstein | Linux is broken. Period. |
| schreiberstein | :D |
| fgdgfd | have you tried mounting from tde's konqueror? |
| fgdgfd | besides |
| * schreiberstein would love to use NetBSD (featuring KDE 3.5.10), but his GPU and soundcard isn't supported :-/ | |
| schreiberstein | Konqueror is my only file manager |
| fgdgfd | you gave no parameters no hal-storage-mount |
| fgdgfd | doesn't mount from "storage media"? |
| fgdgfd | it should |
| fgdgfd | or at least it shouldn't throw the permissions error anymore |
| schreiberstein | Now, it opens the drive, but doesn't show anything (media:/sdb3) and there is nothing mounted in /media |
| fgdgfd | but the permissions error is gone? |
| schreiberstein | Yes, at the moment. |
| fgdgfd | oh yeah |
| schreiberstein | Shall I reboot my system? |
| fgdgfd | nope |
| schreiberstein | OPPA WINDOWS STYLE |
| fgdgfd | should work as soon as hel-storage-mount is replaced |
| schreiberstein | :D |
| schreiberstein | Anyway... |
| fgdgfd | hdds should mount now |
| schreiberstein | As I said, there is no permission error, but also nothing gets mounted at /media |
| fgdgfd | strange |
| schreiberstein | Indeed |
| fgdgfd | you can mount through command line? |
| schreiberstein | Using the normal coreutils 'mount' , yes. |
| fgdgfd | mount and then try unmounting using the context menu at konqueror |
| fgdgfd | works for me |
| fgdgfd | what is your /etc/fstab? |
| schreiberstein | Just my root, boot and another harddrive partition |
| schreiberstein | I'll do so |
| fgdgfd | AFAIK the partition listed in fstab won't mount through hal |
| fgdgfd | but any other will |
| schreiberstein | Wait a moment, I'll tray it with an EXT3 drive |
| fgdgfd | yes |
| schreiberstein | Yes, but I wouldn'T need HAL then. These things are configured statically, anyway. |
| fgdgfd | try also with vfat and ntfs if you can |
| schreiberstein | VFAT USB-Sticks worked |
| schreiberstein | I don't have any NTFS HDD anymore |
| fgdgfd | yes |
| schreiberstein | Just for the records : this stuff worked on Scientific Linux / CentOS |
| fgdgfd | external drives always worked here |
| schreiberstein | ... |
| schreiberstein | The same odd thing happens. No error, but empty (unmounted drive) |
| fgdgfd | because the debian patch only forbid mounting fixed volumes |
| fgdgfd | internal |
| fgdgfd | that's the policy hardcoded in hal you've just removed |
| fgdgfd | then your problem isn't there |
| fgdgfd | you've just removed that debian-only policy |
| schreiberstein | God dammit... Anyway... |
| fgdgfd | i'm sorry it didn't worked |
| fgdgfd | completely i mean |
| schreiberstein | No need to feel sorry. I highly appreciate your help! You're really clever! |
| fgdgfd | no! |
| fgdgfd | i have no idea! |
| fgdgfd | really |
| schreiberstein | :D |
| fgdgfd | :D |
| schreiberstein | I am uncertain about all this linux stuff. Which distribution to choose, which desktop to use, which filesystem to use, ... |
| fgdgfd | me too |
| fgdgfd | but some years ago i use linux to crack some wifis |
| fgdgfd | and loved kde 3.5 |
| fgdgfd | then now i found that the new kde sucks |
| fgdgfd | and then found trinity |
| fgdgfd | which is lovely |
| schreiberstein | :-) |
| fgdgfd | :) |
| schreiberstein | I never used KDE 3.5 maintime, actually. I started with Linux at Ubuntu 9.10, but I learned a lot of stuff since then. |
| fgdgfd | i did too back then |
| fgdgfd | but now i don't remember anything |
| fgdgfd | i remember installing a debian release called potato |
| fgdgfd | maybe in 1999 or 2000 |
| schreiberstein | :D |
| fgdgfd | lol |
| fgdgfd | but i am a bit old fashioned |
| schreiberstein | I was a small kid back then. I fooled around with some retail Suse and Knoppic 3.1 in 2003/2004 |
| fgdgfd | i don't like tactile cell phones |
| fgdgfd | i don't like windows uis post win xp |
| schreiberstein | Why not? |
| fgdgfd | i don't like new kde nor new gnome |
| fgdgfd | so i don't use that stuff |
| fgdgfd | i don't know |
| fgdgfd | i don't like them |
| schreiberstein | Me neither, but I really like my iPhone. I would hate using something like KDE3 on it |
| fgdgfd | i can't stand tactile phones |
| fgdgfd | even my keyboard is a model m |
| fgdgfd | i have 7 of them |
| fgdgfd | just in case this one breaks |
| fgdgfd | it is from 1994 |
| fgdgfd | and still kicking ass |
| schreiberstein | Wow. That's awesome |
| schreiberstein | I love old keyboards too, but they're just too loud. Imagine I would use this baby at 1AM. My parents would go nuts |
| fgdgfd | lol |
| fgdgfd | just close your door |
| schreiberstein | Our flat isn't that big |
| fgdgfd | now they are selling model ms again |
| schreiberstein | Anyway. I've got an old Atari STe and it'S keyboard is *lovely*. I am using it as a serial terminal to my server and it's awesome to type on an early 90s computer :D |
| fgdgfd | yes |
| fgdgfd | they are wonderful keyboards |
| fgdgfd | so going from that to a tactile phone |
| fgdgfd | just doesn't work |
| schreiberstein | I can understand that. But it works great. I wouldn't use it for typing my exams, but it's quite cool to chat with it, or browsing youtube. |
| fgdgfd | nah |
| fgdgfd | phones are for phoning |
| fgdgfd | and that's it |
| schreiberstein | Accoriding to UNIX-philosophy... |
| schreiberstein | One thing for one task |
| schreiberstein | Well, it's quite cool to SSH from my mobile to my sisters Mac and turn off her music :D |
| schreiberstein | (or open porn sites... ^^) |
| schreiberstein | psst... nobody heard that ;) |
| schreiberstein | --- |
| fgdgfd | lol |
| fgdgfd | now is my dinner's turn |
| schreiberstein | Have some nice meal. Thanks again for your help ;-) |
| schreiberstein | (btw. the above was just a joke - I am not a pervert! . Just to point that out) |
| schreiberstein | I'm going to bed now. See you! :-) |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1371 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, CD/DVD notifications are inconsistent |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | what do you think about this error? |
| sacarde | http://digilander.libero.it/sacarde/data/snapshot10.png |
| sacarde | in archlinux64 |
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| SlavekB | sacarde: have you installed /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kio_pop3.so? |
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| sacarde | SlavekB, yes, I have: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kio_pop3.so |
| sacarde | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 97459 14 ago 2012 kio_pop3.so |
| sacarde | I try with another email client |
| sacarde | see you later |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | SlavekB, I try with thunderbird pop3 ... and works OK |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1328 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1328 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KMail: Sender's informational time box is incorrect and misfunctions |
| sacarde | SlavekB, in /opt/trinity I have lib64 dir too.. is OK ? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1419 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1419 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] 'dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface quit' does not kill process |
| SlavekB | I do not know how it is in the Arch. On Debian I have always /opt/trinity/lib. |
| sacarde | in /opt/trinity yo9u have only lib dir? |
| SlavekB | I have no lib64, lib only. |
| sacarde | ah |
| SlavekB | Of course also bin, include, share,.... |
| sacarde | ah, ok ok |
| sacarde | this is content of tde-tdebase, right? |
| SlavekB | Yes. |
| sacarde | I read: https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=thread&topic_id=37706&forum=55&post_id=164966 |
| sacarde | but I dont have in arch repo this package: trinity-kdebase-pim-ioslaves |
| SlavekB | On Debian/Ubuntu this is in package kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity. |
| SlavekB | But have no idea how granular are packages for Arch. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1328 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1328 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMail: Sender's informational time box is incorrect and misfunctions |
| SlavekB | The base package is kdebase (3.5.13.x branch) / tdebase (r14 branch). |
| sacarde | is there in kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity any file kio_pop3.so ? |
| SlavekB | $ dpkg -L kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity|grep pop3 |
| SlavekB | /opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/en/kioslave/pop3.docbook |
| SlavekB | /opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/en/kioslave/pop3s.docbook |
| SlavekB | /opt/trinity/share/services/pop3.protocol |
| SlavekB | /opt/trinity/share/services/pop3s.protocol |
| SlavekB | /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kio_pop3.la |
| SlavekB | /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kio_pop3.so |
| SlavekB | Try on your Arch: ldd /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kio_pop3.so |
| sacarde | I view a lot of libraries |
| sacarde | no errors |
| SlavekB | Nothing misses? |
| sacarde | no |
| sacarde | but /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kio_pop3.so is into tdebase and into kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity ? |
| SlavekB | kdebase is the source package from which on debian / ubuntu is builded (among other) package kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity. |
| SlavekB | I do not know how are prepared packages for Arch ... except that they are evidently long unmaintained. |
| sacarde | y |
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| Fat-Zer_ | hi there |
| Fat-Zer_ | if I think some bug should be fixed before r14 release, am I suppose to include it somewhere? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1553 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue: xrandr support in tdelibs must depend on cmake options rather than on system configuration |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1554 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1554 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdelibs FTBFS on compilation stage if xrender is missing |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 760 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, TDE exits too slow |
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| sacarde | hi |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1555 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1555 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, libkonq FTBFS when compiled separately |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1556 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1556 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue: kicker FTBFS because of missing includes |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 714 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=714 minor, P5, ---, fatzer2, REOPENED, Build issue: kio_man does not work with some distros |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1557 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1557 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdeioslaves was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KIOSLAVES |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1239 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Kmail erroneously replying from wrong account |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 900 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=900 enhancement, P5, ---, midenok, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Qt3 + Qt4 shake variations |
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| sacarde | hi |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1558 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1558 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue: VERSION defined in src/qt.pro should be updated. |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1557 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1557 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdeioslaves was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KIOSLAVES |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1558 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1558 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: VERSION defined in src/qt.pro should be updated. |
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| sacarde | hi |
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| elcaset | Borg^Queen: hello. how goes it? |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1250 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1250 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, KBibTex not available in Trinity |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1276 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1276 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, kbiff package for trinity |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 142 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=142 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, kdbg needs packaging |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1412 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1412 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TQCA-TLS not recognized by Kopete |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1412 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1527 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1527 trivial, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, [Package Request] qca-tls for RHEL-based distros |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1559 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1559 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KAlarm message dialogs supercede screen saver |
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| DGMurdockIII | where can we get the source code for the trinity-desktop enverment |
| Fat-Zer | DGMurdockIII: from the git or from the tarballs (http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/releases/3.5.13.2/downloads.html) ... |
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| pdonis | Anyone have any info on the 3.5.13.2 release? Website says its not complete yet but apt-get is showing me a lot of packages with updates and some of them are 404ing |
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| sacarde | hi |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1560 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1560 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: several FTBFS building R14.0.0 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1560 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1561 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1561 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KPowersave: Suspend after unlocking |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1562 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1562 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDENetworkManager crashes when underlying NetworkManager is not running |
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| darwin | I just changed my panel configuration, and I did not change the taskbar icons, but they disappeared and will not come back when I try to configure them |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1393 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1393 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: several FTBFS building TDE 3.5.13.2 |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | added lines to apt in debian 7, updated, installed keyrign and all. now I don't want all of it but only the kmail, so I only installed that and pinentry-qt, but aptitude gives me: |
| DexterF | E: Method gave invalid 200 URI Start message |
| DexterF | whatever that means. |
| DexterF | folowed this: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/DebianBinaryInstallation |
| SlavekB | DexterF: Some typo in sources.list? |
| DexterF | SlavekB: copy/paste, i doubt that.. sec.. |
| DexterF | SlavekB: http://pastebin.com/8ytEgqEs <- copied from sources.list |
| DexterF | ah, gotta go, will ask the ML |
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| Borg^Queen | hello hello |
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| DexterF | hi |
| DexterF | just a note: tried to install kmail-trinity on deb7 couple of times, wouldn't work, did when I used apt-get instead. |
| Space_Man | how did you try to install kmail-trinity before you used apt-get? |
| DexterF | Space_Man: aptitude |
| DexterF | I've seen this happen with deb-multimedia.org. either there is a little detail everyone keeps tripping over when setting up the repos or debian has a glitch in the docs |
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| echotrap | hello there, good day. I do have a problem installing trinity as the "arts-trinity" package appears to be not accessible but is a dependency for the "kubuntu-desktop-trinity" package... |
| echotrap | pointers to a way to resolve this by grabbing the needed package elsewhere would be apreciated... |
| echotrap | (running a fresh install of updated mint 15 here atm) |
| echotrap | nvm, trying it with the "nightly build" repository (crosses fingers) |
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| SlavekB | echotrap: It seems that this is another mistake in publishing from my PPA to official sources. |
| darwin | I am trying to compile the current stable version, but it is not clear how to compile the packages with cmake |
| darwin | (the current version of trinity) |
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| SlavekB | darwin: At present only some of the packages are built using cmake. Not all. |
| darwin | yes, well some of the required packages need it |
| darwin | that is what I am starting with |
| tbottu | 10midenok@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 900 from RESOLVED WONTFIX to CLOSED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=900 enhancement, P5, ---, midenok, CLOSED INVALID, Qt3 + Qt4 shake variations |
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| darwin | I made a donation to the project |
| darwin | maybe I have to be hear earlier in the day on USA time to ask questions... I am on PST but usually get up somewhat or very late |
| darwin | *here |
| SlavekB | I am currently at work so I do not have much time to respond :) |
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| echotrap1 | bing? |
| * echotrap1 waves to see if there is anyone to wave back... | |
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| echotrap1 | o/ |
| * echotrap1 is sad for the 'terror' the "hal-trinity" package inflicts on Mint 15 and could do with a few pointers to resolve it... | |
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| echotrap1 | o/ |
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| SlavekB | echotrap1: What's the problem with HAL on Mint? |
| echotrap1 | oi.. |
| echotrap1 | well, I have installed a mint 15 and since I packed up trinity it won't shut down properly anymore |
| SlavekB | How is it manifested? |
| echotrap1 | on shutdown command (from commandline in VT1, vt2 or fromout trinity (or even tdm) it will hang. |
| echotrap1 | last logs seem to indicate that hal is shutting down and trying to respawn |
| echotrap1 | it was fine on this system until I upgraded to mint 15 (from mint 13) but it occurred after a subsequent install of mint 15 and then trying to install trinity on top |
| SlavekB | Which version of the Trinity you use? For which distribution? |
| echotrap1 | another issue (maybe related to hal not working correctly?) is that plugged in devices do not spawn desktop icons anymore |
| echotrap1 | I used the preceise on this system, and the raring nightly build for the fresh install |
| echotrap1 | (since the original installation instructions for raring did end me with dependency problems on arts-trinity when trying to install the kubuntu-desktop-tinity package |
| echotrap1 | I do try to run on mint maya btw |
| echotrap1 | erm.. mate I mean |
| SlavekB | Aha - that's the problem with an mistake in official sources for 5.3.13? |
| SlavekB | (3.5.13 of course) |
| echotrap1 | erm... please forgive me, I'm not sure what you mean here? |
| SlavekB | You could try to add my PPA, in which this problem not exists. |
| echotrap1 | where would I find that one please? |
| echotrap1 | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/UbuntuBinaryInstallation |
| echotrap1 | that is where I went |
| SlavekB | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu raring main |
| echotrap1 | any keys to add? and can I just replace the line and update? or do I need to purge and reinstall?and |
| echotrap1 | *-and |
| echotrap1 | and thank you |
| SlavekB | My PPA is the source for update 3.5.13.x branch. And during publishing from my PPA to official sources occured some mistakes in package lists. |
| echotrap1 | aha! so it's something new learned today again for me... |
| SlavekB | sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys 80479E11 |
| echotrap1 | a "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" will do? |
| echotrap1 | or should I purge the existing packages first? |
| SlavekB | You do not - currently the packages in my ppa and the official should be equivalent. |
| echotrap1 | ok, what about the reboot issue? |
| echotrap1 | well, I'll update first, then I'll be back.. |
| SlavekB | Sure - we'll see if after update will be the same situation. |
| echotrap1 | ok, update done without errors, total of 9 more packages installed... let's run two reboot cycles and hope for the best ^^ |
| echotrap1 | brb |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1514 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1514 normal, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, kpowersave-nohal don't show battery level on Asus EEE |
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| echotrap | back from away |
| echotrap | and here I was writing down the errormessages on shutdown and is did suddenly reboot (about 2 minutes after the shutdown |
| echotrap | since I kind of looked at some delay messages at bootup (about network config wait for some additional 60 seconds, I assume my reboot-issue might be network related instead? |
| echotrap | hmmpf, plugging devices still doesn't show in trinity though, when I start caja and plug a device the device is instantly mounted and a folder opened... |
| SlavekB | And when you try to open in Konqueror uri: media:/ |
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| echotrap | then I see the entries "Hard Disk (UUID=xyz)" from my /dev/sda (which I just confirmed with the uuid's I put in /etc/fstab) |
| echotrap | clicking on one of them does yield the error message: "Feature only avaidible with HAL" |
| SlavekB | Are you a member of the plugdev group? |
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| echotrap | hmm, brb |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1514 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1514 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, kpowersave-nohal don't show battery level on Asus EEE |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1563 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1563 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Regression: Kicker menu does not show some applications |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1250 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1250 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, KBibTex not available in Trinity |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1276 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1276 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, kbiff package for trinity |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 142 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=142 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, kdbg needs packaging |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 500 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=500 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, Add window docking application to Trinity |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 893 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=893 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, twinkle (sip phone) package for trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1564 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1564 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, korgac and kopete deadlock on kontact start |
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| snowman3d | hello |
| snowman3d | gnome3 is pure shit, and KDE plasma is also not for me |
| snowman3d | I would like to have good old desktop, like gnome2 was. Light. Providing functions, not shittywidgets |
| snowman3d | is this what trinity aims to be? |
| Space_Man | yes |
| snowman3d | in deb7 repos? |
| Space_Man | trinity 3.5.13.2 should be available for newer debians |
| Space_Man | at the moment they are pushing 3.5.13.2 to the mirrors |
| Space_Man | its very slow |
| snowman3d | is it packed officially in debian.org repos? |
| Space_Man | I don't think it is |
| SlavekB | For wheezy up to three small mistaker is official apt source available. |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/DebianBinaryInstallation |
| Space_Man | thanks SlavekB I was looking for that url :) |
| snowman3d | quick idiocity test: |
| snowman3d | does TDE have a show desktop button, and what it is? |
| * snowman3d looks @ Space_Man | |
| Space_Man | snowman3d: yes http://imgur.com/0qK5gE3 |
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| snowman3d | I ment like ctrl+D or Meta+D |
| SlavekB | You can make a shortcut key that uses DCOP command: |
| SlavekB | dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface toggleShowDesktop |
| snowman3d | could we make Meta+D a default for it? or this + what ever other users are accustomed to from other desktops |
| SlavekB | Against the use of Ctrl+D I would strongly protested because this combination I use very often in the terminal. And it's one of the things that annoyed my always a lot when I was at the computer with Gnome. |
| snowman3d | how about Meta+D? |
| SlavekB | First, I began to question whether this is enough interesting feature to be with shortcut in default configuration? |
| snowman3d | users are used to it |
| snowman3d | I use it a lot, as instant minimize all windows |
| SlavekB | I do not use it at all ever :) |
| SlavekB | But I definitely see it as a shortcoming that is not predefined action for this activity => not easy to setup a keyboard shortcut for this. |
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| echotrap | o/ |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1565 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1565 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, qt4-tqt-engine causes crash when closing hplip-systray |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1496 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1496 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, tdenetworkmanager cannot display wireless networks |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1562 from NEW to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1562 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, TDENetworkManager crashes when underlying NetworkManager is not running |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1566 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1566 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Several TDENetworkManager problems |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1567 filed by contact@philipashmore.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1567 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, screen stuck at max when using brightness buttons |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1568 filed by contact@philipashmore.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1568 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity repo not working on Raspbian Wheezy |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1569 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1569 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Regression: KDM start TDE after login on black background |
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| tomman | Hello there! |
| tomman | I'm trying to install Trinity on Wheezy AMD64, but I get missing dependency errors... |
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| SlavekB | tomman: During publishing packages to official repository there was an mistake in packages arts, adept and amarok. |
| tomman | Oh, I did noticed that with the arts package. |
| tomman | So I guess that I'll have to wait a bit more, right? |
| SlavekB | Update packages waiting to publish. |
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| tomman | OK, nice. |
| tomman | Another question. I've already migrated some of my Wheezy boxes to Jessie (AKA testing) |
| tomman | will the current TDE release for Wheezy work there? I mean, right now Jessie isn't THAT different of Wheezy (which just got promoted to Stable less than two months ago) |
| SlavekB | Jessie contains incompatible update binutils, which makes it impossible to use wheezy packages. |
| tomman | Ouch. |
| SlavekB | Soon will probably be ready development version TDE for jessie. |
| tomman | Nice to hear that - fortunately my two Jessie boxes are not in the roadmap for TDE, but I want it on my remaining Wheezy laptop (i.e. the one that I actually use the most) |
| tomman | that one won't get moved anytime soon. |
| SlavekB | Stable branch at this time is not planned for Jessie, because in Jessie may occur even many changes. |
| SlavekB | Jessie is in this moment too young :) |
| tomman | Yeah, I get that (after all, Jessie will be testing for a long time) |
| tomman | I was forced to move to Jessie on one of my laptops just for Steam (Wheezy is already too outdated for it) |
| tomman | And the other setup is a laptop too old for anything, it's more like a testbed for updates. |
| SlavekB | And not enough just to add things from wheezy-backports? |
| tomman | Steam requires a newer libc, which isn't on backports (yet?) |
| tomman | the other way is to use a libc local install, but that one is way too buggy and crash-prone for my tastes. |
| tomman | (and it involves using a Ubuntu-specific package!) |
| SlavekB | No, libc not be in backports. |
| tomman | Given that libc is a tough one, it's unlikely that it will ever be backported. |
| tomman | But since I only use that laptop for gaming and video encoding (where you have to live in the bleeding edge for doing anything useful), I'm fine with that. |
| SlavekB | How do I look right now, the updated packages arts, adept and amarok were published a few hours ago, so soon will be synchronized to mirrors. |
| tomman | OK, cool. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1570 filed by julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1570 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [REGRESSION] adept is using a lot of CPU and is *really* slow |
| tbottu | 10julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 239 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=239 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Some packages miss a non "-kde3" 'provides' |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1496 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1496 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdenetworkmanager cannot display wireless networks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1571 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1571 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMail: Favorite Folders don't update with account name change |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1572 filed by midenok@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1572 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Where is python-qt3_3.18.1-6ubuntu13.04.0+0_amd64.deb? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1573 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1573 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KMail antispam/antivrus wizard "Move to folder" option |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1574 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1574 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, HAL on modern UDEV-SYSTEMD |
| tbottu | 10rom_as@oscada.org changed the Status on bug 1574 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1575 filed by midenok@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1575 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Why kdelibs4c2a-trinity doesn't provide kdelibs4c2a? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1575 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1575 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Why kdelibs4c2a-trinity doesn't provide kdelibs4c2a? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1574 from PATCHAVAIL to SRUONLY. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1574 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, SRUONLY, HAL on modern UDEV-SYSTEMD |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1576 filed by midenok@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1576 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Request for Packaging: sim messenger |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1577 filed by midenok@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1577 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Request for Packaging: kkbswitch |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz marked bug 1577 as a duplicate of bug 493. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1577 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Request for Packaging: kkbswitch |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=493 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kkbswitch needs packaging |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1575 from RESOLVED INVALID to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1575 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Why kdelibs4c2a-trinity doesn't provide kdelibs4c2a? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1578 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1578 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KLaptop System Tray Status Percentage Difficult to Read |
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| SineTheCreator | hi all |
| SineTheCreator | i've just built a trinity desktop system from debian netinst. everything works, but i am having a real hard time with wifi. i can't get my card to show up in wicd. it does show up in kde's network settings applet but i use wpa personal so that's not an option\ |
| SineTheCreator | what do i do? |
| snowman3d | SineTheCreator: I would try |
| SineTheCreator | ? |
| snowman3d | SineTheCreator: CLI programs |
| SineTheCreator | oh |
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| SineTheCreator | so there is no decent gui app for connecting to wireless? |
| SineTheCreator | i mean, for kde3.x |
| SlavekB | SineTheCreator: You can try adding a squeeze apt sources and use network-manager-kde-trinity from squeeze. |
| SineTheCreator | ahh, thank you :D |
| SineTheCreator | SlavekB: would it be recommended to install the entire DE from squeeze repos even if i'm on wheezy? |
| SineTheCreator | or even to run squeeze entirely? |
| SineTheCreator | or is wheezy acceptable? |
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| SlavekB | Wheezy is fine - just Trinity stable branch lacking support for a new network manager. |
| SineTheCreator | ah |
| SineTheCreator | so should i replace all of my trinity wheezy repos with squeeze, or just add them side-by-side? |
| SlavekB | Support for the new version of network manager will be up in the upcoming R14. |
| SlavekB | Add next to the wheezy sources. |
| SineTheCreator | ok, thanks. and those are for trinity's repo, not debian's, right? |
| SineTheCreator | sorry, i just want to be sure :D |
| SlavekB | You'll also need a source Debian Squeeze as such - for the older version of the network manager. |
| SineTheCreator | ahh, ok |
| SineTheCreator | eh, apt |
| SineTheCreator | eh, apt* is saying this is an impossible situation |
| SineTheCreator | oh wells :D |
| SineTheCreator | maybe i'll just rebuild from squeeze. i gotta get this wifi working :/ |
| SineTheCreator | ugh, this sucks |
| SineTheCreator | :/ |
| SlavekB | It should be enough to disallow install the network-manager-strongswan. |
| SineTheCreator | ? |
| SineTheCreator | http://pastebin.com/zCugjV3j |
| SineTheCreator | apparently it's just the version of network-manager that is hanging things up |
| SineTheCreator | the rest are just recommended |
| SlavekB | Start by downgrade network-manager: |
| SlavekB | aptitude install network-manager=0.8.1-6+squeeze2 |
| SineTheCreator | ok. it's doing that now |
| SineTheCreator | okay... now it's letting me install trinity network manager :D |
| SineTheCreator | thanks |
| SineTheCreator | isn't this going to break the next time i run an update? |
| SlavekB | You have to set network-manager as "hold". |
| SineTheCreator | okay, thanks, i'll try that |
| SineTheCreator | if this doesn't work i may just reinstall on the latest squeeze iso |
| SineTheCreator | trinity is about the only desktop environment that actually runs nicely on this laptop |
| SlavekB | As far as I know, my colleague uses it this way. |
| SineTheCreator | ok, i have network-manager held |
| SineTheCreator | once the new trinity network manager is installed do i just restart the session? or is a reboot needed? |
| SlavekB | It should be enough to run trinity applet after starting service network-manager. |
| SlavekB | Are you a member of netdev group? |
| SineTheCreator | yay, it works :D |
| SineTheCreator | i had to reboot and re-create the connection but it's working now |
| SineTheCreator | thanks for all the help |
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| SlavekB | SineTheCreator: you're welcome |
| SineTheCreator | thank god for trinity |
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| SineTheCreator | hi all. i have question - is there any way to disable the ctrl+alt+del requirement at the login screen? |
| SineTheCreator | heh... i have A question* even |
| SlavekB | In /etc/trinity/kdm/kdmrc enable option: |
| SlavekB | UseSAK=false |
| SineTheCreator | SlavekB: thank you |
| SineTheCreator | SlavekB: is that the 'Secure Authentication Key' option I see in the login config GUI? |
| SlavekB | Yes |
| SineTheCreator | ah |
| SlavekB | I prefer configuration file because it contains comments. Setting via GUI leads to destroy this comments. |
| SineTheCreator | ahh |
| SineTheCreator | :( |
| SineTheCreator | i wish i would have known that at the start |
| SineTheCreator | but oh wells. so far i really like this |
| SineTheCreator | i haven't used kde 3.5.x in ages |
| SineTheCreator | hahaha konqueror supports sftp:// |
| SineTheCreator | my god this is the best desktop environment ever |
| SlavekB | :) |
| SineTheCreator | i'm seriously considering rolling this setup on all of my laptops |
| SineTheCreator | all i need now is a web browser that doesn't suck and isn't super bloated. unfortunately konqueror isn't the greatest web browser, and even qupzilla is stuttery and slow |
| SineTheCreator | hrm... mp3 is also not working, despite me just installing gstreamer libs and ffmpeg |
| SineTheCreator | strange |
| SineTheCreator | in juk, for reference |
| SlavekB | Try to install akode-trinity. |
| SineTheCreator | SlavekB: ok, thanks :D |
| SineTheCreator | hrm... all i have in repos is 'akode-dbg' apparently |
| SlavekB | I use Amarok - it uses xine and with mp3 I have no problems. |
| SlavekB | libarts1-akode-trinity |
| SineTheCreator | i'd use amarok but i know it'd be very heavy :( |
| SineTheCreator | ahh, thanks |
| SineTheCreator | is amarok-trinity the package for amarok? i'll at least give it a shot |
| SlavekB | Yes, amarok-trinity. |
| SineTheCreator | libarts1-akode-trinity is already installed |
| SineTheCreator | hrm |
| SineTheCreator | i'll try amarok next |
| SineTheCreator | i wish konqueror was a slightly better web browser. it's so quick. |
| SineTheCreator | the only issues i've really seen with it were things like CSS3/html5 |
| SineTheCreator | i haven't tested things like flash or java support |
| SlavekB | I use Konqueror as my primary browser and the other comes down only if the web page does not work in Konqueror :) |
| SineTheCreator | yeah |
| SineTheCreator | that's probably what i'll end up doing |
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| SineTheCreator | is it normal for the rest of of the system to become stuttery when a file transfer is in progress? |
| SineTheCreator | it almost seems like the file transfer has a higher priority than the rest of KDE |
| SineTheCreator | this is old hardware, given, but other de's/wm's don't act like this during a file transfer |
| SineTheCreator | the transfer is done and everything is speedy quick again :D |
| elcaseti | strange |
| SineTheCreator | yeah |
| SineTheCreator | also i am missing a default applications gui |
| SineTheCreator | there's none in the k menu nor in control center |
| elcaseti | huh |
| elcaseti | i'm on kde4 now, so I can't look that up. |
| SineTheCreator | it's all good :D |
| SineTheCreator | googling it has come up with nothing so maybe it's not supposed to have it? |
| elcaseti | maybe someone else will chime in. |
| elcaseti | idk |
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| SineTheCreator | hmm... konqueror really does not like wikipedia D: |
| elcaseti | konqueror is a great file browser. not such a great web browser, imho. Firefox is quite nice. :)> |
| elcaseti | or seamonkey |
| SineTheCreator | firefox is bloated and slow. so is chrome :D |
| SineTheCreator | woah, i was wrong - chrome is surprisingly quick on trinity |
| SineTheCreator | i have never seen it open so fast on this machine D: |
| elcaseti | firefox has more of a focus on privacy. chrome, being a google product, is less focused on privacy. |
| Borg^Queen | SineTheCreator: turn off java script in konq |
| Borg^Queen | elcaseti: aye |
| elcaseti | Borg^Queen: :)> |
| SineTheCreator | elcaseti: is seamonkey basically netscape but updated? |
| elcaseti | SineTheCreator seamonkey is the updated fork of mozilla browser. |
| SineTheCreator | ah |
| elcaseti | it's a good match for TDE. change is kept to a minimum. |
| SineTheCreator | ah |
| SineTheCreator | i'll give it a shot |
| elcaseti | kuhl |
| SineTheCreator | man something is destroying my cpu |
| SineTheCreator | anytime i upgrade a package or install something with apt or transfer a file over network my system slows to a crawl and everything gets very stutter |
| SineTheCreator | y |
| SineTheCreator | i really don't understand it |
| SineTheCreator | it seems to only happen when there is high network utilization, i.e. uninstalling a package or copying local files has no effect |
| Borg^Queen | do you have an onboard NIC? |
| SineTheCreator | yes. it's a laptop. there is also an onboard broadcom b43xx card. i'm using the b43 driver for that one. |
| Borg^Queen | hmm |
| SineTheCreator | the wifi is the one most-used obviously :D |
| Borg^Queen | boardcom is dumbware |
| SineTheCreator | yeah, it's pretty crap |
| SineTheCreator | but i don't really have an option, so... i use it :/ |
| Borg^Queen | it uses the cpu to perform it's functions. you will get mouse stutter during heavy use. |
| Borg^Queen | hey ANY working computer is a good one. |
| SineTheCreator | i have some usb wifi cards but they're even more ancient than the broadcom wlan |
| SineTheCreator | ahh |
| Borg^Queen | they might help |
| SineTheCreator | so that's why |
| SineTheCreator | hmm, yeah i'll have to try out these other cards and see what they do |
| Borg^Queen | it doesn't have a DPU (device processor unit) instead it uses the cpu to do it. |
| SineTheCreator | so disabling it would be a good idea |
| Borg^Queen | if you can find a dongle that will work |
| SineTheCreator | yeah i have a few laying around. i'm gonna go grab one right now. |
| Borg^Queen | good luck |
| SineTheCreator | thanks |
| SineTheCreator | brb |
| Borg^Queen | ok |
| SineTheCreator | so this trendnet card seems to work well |
| SineTheCreator | signal strength is better |
| SineTheCreator | lets try a file copy7 |
| Borg^Queen | any stutter? |
| SineTheCreator | -7* |
| SineTheCreator | none yet, but i haven't really tried yet :D |
| Borg^Queen | please do |
| SineTheCreator | yep. LOTS of stutter |
| SineTheCreator | but faster speed |
| SineTheCreator | er no, not anymore |
| Borg^Queen | ugh |
| SineTheCreator | but yeah it's stuttering |
| Borg^Queen | ok how much ram do you have? |
| SineTheCreator | ram isn't the problem. i have 1 gig, 180 megs used |
| SineTheCreator | the problem is IO wait according to the system monitor |
| SineTheCreator | slow hdd? |
| SineTheCreator | yeah, cpu usage is peaking for kernel and iowait |
| SineTheCreator | as soon as i cancel the transfer everything is back to normal |
| SineTheCreator | lemme try another wifi dongle |
| Borg^Queen | ok what distro |
| SineTheCreator | debian 7 |
| SineTheCreator | brb |
| SineTheCreator | ok, i figured it out |
| SineTheCreator | i had to modprobe -r the b43 module before other wireless devices would work |
| SineTheCreator | now, it's working smoothly. the dongle i'm currently using has a RTL8187B |
| Borg^Queen | you can automate that |
| SineTheCreator | yeah, i'll make a modprobe.d/b43.conf |
| SineTheCreator | iowait still pegs 100% during transfers but the desktop environment is silky smooth |
| SineTheCreator | it was definitely the broadcom card hogging all the cpu :D |
| Borg^Queen | aye |
| Borg^Queen | and it's likely you have a slow hd |
| Borg^Queen | 54k most likely |
| SineTheCreator | yeah, it's an 80gb 5400 |
| Borg^Queen | oh ok |
| SineTheCreator | still, with the wifi/cpu thing solved the system seems quite stable |
| Borg^Queen | so it's your fault |
| SineTheCreator | it's even faster than when it's idle |
| SineTheCreator | haha |
| SineTheCreator | well... this was a $300 walmart special in 2006, so i don't have a lot of options |
| Borg^Queen | do you have a swap part? |
| SineTheCreator | yeah. it's 1gb |
| Borg^Queen | makeer? |
| SineTheCreator | makeer? |
| Borg^Queen | sorry maker |
| Borg^Queen | brand? |
| Borg^Queen | dell, hp? |
| SineTheCreator | Borg^Queen: sorry about that, had to reoot |
| SineTheCreator | reboot* |
| Borg^Queen | not to worry lad |
| SineTheCreator | it's an HP/compaq presario v5305wm |
| Borg^Queen | or lass as the case may be |
| Borg^Queen | Not a bad machine |
| SineTheCreator | lol |
| SineTheCreator | yes it is, it's horrible. the only reason it's not locked in a closet somewhere is that my only other mobile option is an hp mini 110 :/ |
| SineTheCreator | i would almost sell my soul for a new ultrabook at this point |
| Borg^Queen | ultrabook? |
| Borg^Queen | I stick to IBMs |
| SineTheCreator | you mean lenovos |
| Borg^Queen | 100% linux compatible. |
| SineTheCreator | ibm was great. lenovo, not so much |
| Borg^Queen | yeah I know but old habits |
| SineTheCreator | yeah |
| SineTheCreator | what i really want is something that is 100% OS X compatible, like my desktop. it runs 10.8.3 quite nicely |
| Borg^Queen | Well yes, if you buy their industrial versions, not the consumer ones |
| Borg^Queen | I hate mac. |
| SineTheCreator | i don't. it's fine for what it is. |
| SineTheCreator | i run OS X for FCPX |
| Borg^Queen | I have two boxes filled with ipud, iphonies, and mac laptops |
| SineTheCreator | if there was a somewhat-decent video editor that didn't cost $4500 for windows i wouldn't need OS X, but alas, there is not :D |
| Borg^Queen | well laddi I'm off. |
| SineTheCreator | thanks for the help |
| Borg^Queen | GIMP |
| SineTheCreator | i said video :D |
| Borg^Queen | There are several |
| SineTheCreator | i already use gimp for photo/image editing |
| Borg^Queen | Avidemux2 |
| SineTheCreator | no, there really aren't |
| SineTheCreator | avidemux is not a video editor |
| SineTheCreator | it's a stream demuxer |
| SineTheCreator | big difference |
| Borg^Queen | well true |
| Borg^Queen | i'LL do some research |
| SineTheCreator | when i say video editor, i mean a full video suite. think avid media composer |
| SineTheCreator | i do this professionally so i need good tools that just work |
| SineTheCreator | FCPX does that |
| Borg^Queen | Aye I see, you're looking for more than a codec converter |
| SineTheCreator | yeah, definitely :D |
| Borg^Queen | ok, I'll do some research. I sadly have to deal with itblows on a daily bassis. |
| SineTheCreator | hah |
| Borg^Queen | That's mean |
| SineTheCreator | eh, i'm sorry :( |
| Borg^Queen | You should have said "Oh you poor lass!" |
| Borg^Queen | There we go. |
| SineTheCreator | haha |
| SineTheCreator | honestly i would be quite happy with a macbook pro or air |
| Borg^Queen | yuck |
| SineTheCreator | it may run OS X but it'd be miles faster than this ancient craptop |
| Borg^Queen | you can have the dozen or so I have in the box |
| SineTheCreator | seriously, how much |
| Borg^Queen | Sorry laddi, I actually trashed all of them this weekend. |
| SineTheCreator | argh :/ |
| SineTheCreator | :D |
| Borg^Queen | got a $1 for each one. that's all they were worht. |
| Borg^Queen | to think some were only 3 month old |
| SineTheCreator | please, stop |
| SineTheCreator | you're making me really sad now |
| SineTheCreator | on a side note, at least you have a choice at home |
| Borg^Queen | LOL |
| SineTheCreator | i do not, because of my profession |
| Borg^Queen | :( oh you poor lad |
| SineTheCreator | i am a music/photo/film producer. with the hardware and software i use, the only real options are windows or OS X |
| Borg^Queen | I work for myself (computer tech) so I use linux all the time. |
| SineTheCreator | ahh. i used to be a self-employed computer tech as well |
| SineTheCreator | i was a network engineer for a while too |
| Borg^Queen | See what Pixar uses, they're linux based |
| SineTheCreator | eh, they probably use blender |
| SineTheCreator | they're more 3d oriented |
| Borg^Queen | yes, and a few other tings |
| Borg^Queen | blender does 2d as well |
| SineTheCreator | if i had to guess, i'd say lightworks |
| SineTheCreator | i'm pretty sure that runs on linux now |
| Borg^Queen | It ran on linux first |
| SineTheCreator | ah |
| Borg^Queen | then mac and finally windows |
| SineTheCreator | still, the thing about lightworks is to get the most out of it you need the physical console |
| SineTheCreator | which costs thousands |
| SineTheCreator | right now i'm okay with keyboard and mouse |
| SineTheCreator | lightworks is nice but it's not designed for a keyboard and mouse user, it's designed for an editing console |
| Borg^Queen | aye |
| SineTheCreator | once i get to that stage, maybe |
| Borg^Queen | well laddi, time for me to take me leave. |
| SineTheCreator | okay. i don't want to keep you here any longer |
| SineTheCreator | again, thanks for the help :D |
| Borg^Queen | aye, sorry to go, but I have to be up at 4 am |
| SineTheCreator | i understand |
| SineTheCreator | was nice talking to you |
| Borg^Queen | likewise. |
| SineTheCreator | go get some sleep :D |
| Borg^Queen | Be nice to your laptop, offer it chocolate. |
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| SineTheCreator | hah, okay. i will, i have to. |
| Borg^Queen | hi chaky_, gn chaky |
| SineTheCreator | trinity at least makes it useable |
| Borg^Queen | like TDE |
| Borg^Queen | love rather. |
| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| SineTheCreator | brb |
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| SineTheCreator | hey SlavekB |
| SlavekB | hi |
| SineTheCreator | i still can't believe how quick this is |
| SineTheCreator | hrm |
| SineTheCreator | pidgin needs the newer version of network-manager to work |
| SineTheCreator | dammit. |
| SlavekB | Try kopete instead of pidgin :) |
| SineTheCreator | SlavekB: kopete doesn't work with facebook anymore |
| SineTheCreator | at least not in trinity |
| SineTheCreator | perhaps it does in kde4.x, i don't know |
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| SineTheCreator | things would have been so much easier if i had built from squeeze instead of wheezy :/ |
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| SineTheCreator | hi all |
| SineTheCreator | i'm trying to install my networked hp printer but when i get to step where i pick manufacturer and model the dialog is blank |
| SineTheCreator | how do i solve that? i'm on debian btw |
| SineTheCreator | i have hplip installed, dunno if that matters |
| SlavekB | Try to setup printer in cups web interface: https://localhost:631/ |
| SineTheCreator | SlavekB: ok, thanks |
| SineTheCreator | SlavekB: that worked. thanks. |
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| SineTheCreator | how do i add an app to autostart with session? |
| Space_Man | [16:08] <SineTheCreator> i'm trying to install my networked hp printer but when i get to step where i pick manufacturer and model the dialog is blank |
| Space_Man | I once had that problem |
| Space_Man | I downloaded a driver database from the ubuntu servers |
| Space_Man | extracted it and moved to the correct place in /usr |
| Space_Man | the problem was that ubuntu offers a compressed driver database but trinity or ?? doesn't extract it |
| SineTheCreator | hrm |
| SineTheCreator | Space_Man: i got it fixed by using the cups web gui as slavek suggested |
| SineTheCreator | it's a workaround but it worked so that's all that matters :D |
| SineTheCreator | also i figured out a great workaround for the network-manager-kde-trinity bug |
| SineTheCreator | i installed lxappearance, network-manager-gnome, the updated shimmer-themes package in murrine, and shiki-colors icon themes |
| SineTheCreator | i set nm-applet to autostart. i ran lxappearance and selected the bluebird theme and shiki-brave icon theme. |
| SineTheCreator | now gnome's network manager handles everything and it even almost matches. |
| SineTheCreator | i'm on debian 7.1 btw |
| SineTheCreator | it's a lot cleaner to do it this way compared to using old squeeze packages |
| SineTheCreator | nm-applet doesn't have that many dependencies outside of gtk3-engine-* and themes |
| SineTheCreator | this also has the nice side-effect that any gtk apps i may run in the future (i.e. gimp) won't look like something from 1996 :D |
| SineTheCreator | oddly enough, pidgin is one of those packages that requires the 0.9.x of network manager to function. i don't know why this is, but i needed pidgin to connect to facebook so the old network manager wasn't going to work for much longer. i also ran into some other dependency issues because of the held package. |
| SineTheCreator | btw, does anyone know if i can install kde4 beside trinity on debian without screwing things in a major way? |
| SineTheCreator | i seem to recall on ubuntu that trinity went into /opt so it didn't interfere with kde4. but i've never tried that on debian and i'd rather not destroy my system :D |
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| SineTheCreator | okay, apparently the only conflicting packages are cervisia-trinity and kompare-trinity. i will never use either of those, so that is acceptable |
| SineTheCreator | i guess i'll just install kde-full and see what happens |
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| elcaset | ja, I too am interested in installing KDE4 alongside TDE. |
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| SineTheCreator | elcaset: on debian 7.1 it works fine, packages don't get mixed up or anything like that |
| SineTheCreator | there are two trinity packages that conflict. both are not necessary |
| SineTheCreator | they are kompare-trinity and cervisia-trinity |
| SineTheCreator | the real question is what breaks when i --purge kde4 :D |
| SineTheCreator | it's running now so we'll see |
| elcaset | good to know. if I decide to switch to Debian, that sounds pretty good. |
| SineTheCreator | i may try mate desktop next. trinity runs quite fast on this old laptop but i'd like to see if i can get mate doing the same |
| SineTheCreator | i generally prefer gnome, although there is nothing wrong with kde |
| elcaset | i'd be very surprised if MATE is as fast as TDE. |
| SineTheCreator | so would i |
| elcaset | :)> |
| SineTheCreator | hell, xfce isn't even very quick these days |
| elcaset | true |
| SineTheCreator | lxde is supposed to be, but all the distros that implement it well are very bloated so it ends up being no better than xfce |
| elcaset | that's a surprise |
| SineTheCreator | debian 7.1 + trinity is the quickest combo i've found for this laptop so far. well, minus things like puppy and tinycore. |
| SineTheCreator | i have tried a lot :D |
| SineTheCreator | one thing that is really bugging me is gimp. it depends on libcairo for text pathing, but there is a bug in the current version of libcairo in the debian repos so text pathing in gimp works incorrectly. i could just downgrade and be done with it, but unfortunately lots of packages i'm running depend on the current version of libcairo |
| SineTheCreator | it seems like sometimes there is just no solution to things |
| SineTheCreator | you may think "well, it's gimp, just use something else." but i use gimp regularly for my job |
| SineTheCreator | having to boot into windows just to run gimp is a pain |
| elcaset | yep |
| elcaset | SineTheCreator> debian 7.1 + trinity is the quickest combo i've found for this laptop so far. well, minus things like puppy and tinycore <--- good to hear. |
| SineTheCreator | if it wasn't for the gimp thing i'd just wipe my windows partition and expand trinity's |
| SineTheCreator | brb, let's see if anything major brokme |
| SineTheCreator | broke* |
| SineTheCreator | heh. everything seems to be just fine |
| elcaset | nice |
| SineTheCreator | elcaset: how long have you been using trinity? |
| SineTheCreator | i used kde 3.5.x years ago but i've just started using trinity in the last couple of days |
| SineTheCreator | also what is your base distro, if any? |
| elcaset | SineTheCreator: I've been using TDE off & on for a little over 2 years. I love KDE 3 & 4. I mainly use Mint KDE, but for TDE, I use Ubuntu TDE. |
| elcaset | I hope someone who knows how will make a Mint LTS TDE. |
| SineTheCreator | ahh |
| SineTheCreator | elcaset: for what it's worth, i've had a much better trinity experience with debian than i had on ubuntu minimal. there are things that seem to be missing from 'trinity-kubuntu' |
| elcaset | ah, good to know. |
| SineTheCreator | lots of applications for example, are not installed by default |
| SineTheCreator | there were also a lot of k control center modules missing |
| elcaset | i don't mind adding apps |
| SineTheCreator | i dunno if those are in the repos, but trinity on debian just installed everything. or seemed to. |
| elcaset | that is nice. |
| SineTheCreator | also, i'm using network-manager-gnome to workaround the whole network-manager/nm-kde-trinity incompatibility mess |
| SineTheCreator | i dunno if you've experienced that on ubuntu but it's a very elegant solution |
| elcaset | ja, unfotunately i have on Ubuntu TDE. |
| SineTheCreator | ahh |
| elcaset | i couldn't get the gnome version to work on it. |
| SineTheCreator | if you don't want to use a downgraded network-manager package, here's how to solve it. uninstall network-manager-kde-trinity and un-hold any network-manager package you may be holding. then, install network-manager gnome, shiki-colors, and gtk3-engine-* |
| SineTheCreator | there's only two in debian. may be more in ubuntu |
| SineTheCreator | i think i installed the murrine themes metapackage for the gtk3-engines |
| SineTheCreator | in any case, install lxappearance. select 'bluebird' or 'greybird' as your gtk theme in lxappearance. select one of the gnome-colors icon sets in lxappearance. apply |
| SineTheCreator | then, add nm-applet to your autostart |
| SineTheCreator | reboot, done. you now have a nicely-integrated gnome network manager applet. |
| SineTheCreator | a plus is that nm-applet has few dependencies beyond gtk3 engine and theme/icon set. so there is not, like, 200 megs of gnome packages to install |
| SineTheCreator | the other upshot is that any gtk apps you run in the future (i.e. gimp) won't look like something from 1996 |
| SineTheCreator | and obviously, it's much cleaner than mucking up your dependency tree with a held package |
| SineTheCreator | give it a shot and see if it works. you can just install network-manager-gnome by itself, then run nm-applet --sm-disable in terminal to test it |
| SineTheCreator | if it works, you'll see a little dot appear in the trinity system tray |
| SineTheCreator | if it works, do the rest of the stuff with the theme/icon set and it'll actually be usable. |
| SineTheCreator | i'll upload a screenshot real quick so you can see how mine works |
| SineTheCreator | http://i.imgur.com/QhAKSUR.jpg |
| SineTheCreator | ^that is with gnome-brave icon set and bluebird gtk3 theme. as you can see, it blends quite nicely. |
| elcaset | sounds good to me. |
| elcaset | looks good too. |
| SineTheCreator | it works :D |
| SineTheCreator | hrm. i think i'll resize my windows partition and create more space for debian |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1569 from NEW to SRUONLY. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1569 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, SRUONLY, Regression: KDM start TDE after login on black background |
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| SineTheCreator | heh... trinity is even faster on my netbook than it is on my laptop |
| SineTheCreator | i bet it's even faster than windows xp pro on this |
| SineTheCreator | i don't have xp on here anymore but i remember it was quick |
| SineTheCreator | this has got to be the best desktop environment for older/less powerful hardware |
| SineTheCreator | it's amazing how much you get for so little system resources |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1407 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1407 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, notification popups do not support UTF8 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1579 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1579 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KRadio: stereo and signal strength indicators not working |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1580 filed by mpartap@gmx.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1580 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, python-qt3 depends upon sip-api-8.1 (UNSATISFIED) |
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| SineTheCreator | hi all. i noticed that the crystal icon theme has multi-color folders |
| SineTheCreator | is there any way to add support for that to trinity? i.e., OS X-style right-click colors? |
| Space_Man | yes, you should be able to edit the directory properties and then click on the directory icon |
| Space_Man | a new file should appear in the dir named .directory |
| Space_Man | with |
| Space_Man | [Desktop Entry] |
| Space_Man | Icon=folder_red_open |
| SineTheCreator | Space_Man: ok, i'll try that. but i meant via the context menu, not with a text editor |
| Space_Man | just right click on a dir and select 'Properties' |
| SineTheCreator | well yeah, but that's the hard way :D |
| SineTheCreator | i wonder if i could add a custom action to do it |
| SineTheCreator | it wouldn't be hard to do. just add a subtree for 'colors' then do 'echo "Icon=foo > .directory" |
| SineTheCreator | might be better to rm .directory first in the command |
| SlavekB | rm certainly not a good idea - you have no guarantee that in this configuration file are not other useful settings. |
| SlavekB | Better can be use kwriteconfig: |
| SlavekB | kwriteconfig --file ".directory" --group "Desktop Entry" --key Icon --value foo |
| SlavekB | Sorry, value is without extra config option. |
| SineTheCreator | ahh |
| SlavekB | kwriteconfig --file ".directory" --group "Desktop Entry" --key Icon foo |
| SineTheCreator | thank you :D |
| SineTheCreator | that is extremely helpful |
| SineTheCreator | right now i'm working on another project but if i get some time i'll work on the script. once it's done i'll share if you guys want it. |
| SineTheCreator | given that kde3.5.x supports custom actions in the context menu i'm honestly surprised this hasn't been done yet |
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| SineTheCreator | any way to get HTML signatures in kmail-trinity? |
| SineTheCreator | ok, i made the actions script :D |
| SineTheCreator | it works |
| SineTheCreator | http://i.imgur.com/dRv0we0.jpg |
| SineTheCreator | ^if anybody wants a copy of the script (or to help me test with different icon sets) please lemme know |
| SineTheCreator | ideally it should work with any icon set that comes with multi-color folders |
| SineTheCreator | you know, the trinity maintainers should add a little post-install script that does this same thing but changes the folders under ~/ |
| SineTheCreator | KDE3.5.x doesn't natively support media folders but we could change the icons on first login to at least make it look like it does |
| SineTheCreator | crystal (and nearly all KDE3.x icon sets i've tried) have media folder icons |
| SineTheCreator | if you're wondering what i mean about media folder, observe my home directory -> http://i.imgur.com/967EySE.jpg |
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| SineTheCreator | besides libre/openoffice is there a decent office suite for trinity? koffice seems nice but it's quite outdated and it doesn't properly handle .ods spreadsheets |
| elcaset | SineTheCreator: Idk if caligra Office can be used with TDE. |
| SineTheCreator | elcaset: nah, it's built on QT4 :( |
| SineTheCreator | that was the first thing i checked |
| SineTheCreator | i mean i'm sure it can RUN on trinity, but i'm trying to keep ram usage to a minimum |
| SineTheCreator | it's not a good idea to mix trinity / kde4 apps if you want to do that :D |
| elcaset | got it. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 760 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, TDE exits too slow |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1581 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1581 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdm_greet crash when SAK is enabled |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1581 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1581 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, tdm_greet crash when SAK is enabled |
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| SineTheCreator | hey guys, have you ever had any issues with samba fileshares running trinity/konqueror? |
| SineTheCreator | i'm having some issues over here that seem to be samba related so i just figured i'd ask |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 760 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDE exits too slow |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1582 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1582 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdm ftbfs if build with -DWITH_XRANDR=OFF |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1583 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1583 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, krdc issues |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1584 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1584 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Desktop lock dialog will not disappear when selecting Cancel |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1585 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1585 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KNetworkManager package missing |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1581 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1581 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, tdm_greet crash when SAK is enabled |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1437 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1437 minor, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Changing mouse cursor theme should not require restarting Trinity |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1582 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1582 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdm ftbfs if build with -DWITH_XRANDR=OFF |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1556 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1556 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: kicker FTBFS because of missing includes |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1555 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1555 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: libkonq FTBFS when compiled separately |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1553 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: xrandr support in tdelibs must depend on cmake options rather than on system configuration |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1554 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1554 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdelibs FTBFS on compilation stage if xrender is missing |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1585 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1585 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KNetworkManager package missing |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1580 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1580 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, python-qt3 depends upon sip-api-8.1 (UNSATISFIED) |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1572 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1572 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Where is python-qt3_3.18.1-6ubuntu13.04.0+0_amd64.deb? |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1585 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1585 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, KNetworkManager package missing |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1412 from REOPENED to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1412 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, TQCA-TLS not recognized by Kopete |
| elcaset | anybody else at OSCON? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1586 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1586 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kcmautostart crashes on exit |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1586 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| SineTheCreator | hey guys, what's a good browser for trinity desktop that isn't konq? chrome and iceweasel/firefox are built on GTK and thus don't mesh well with trinity in terms of looks or in terms of default protocol handlers for things like PDFs |
| SlavekB | I'm using Chromium as second browser. In it, I'm switching to use GTK theme. And GTK I set to use TDE thene (see package gtk-qtengine-trinity). |
| SineTheCreator | SlavekB: i'm using the bluebird theme in chrome. but it's not even the themeing stuff that bothers me as much as the app integration |
| SineTheCreator | chrome or firefox have no idea what to do when you open a download |
| SineTheCreator | they also have no idea what to do when you click a link that should open the file manager |
| SineTheCreator | it's just stuff like that irks me |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1412 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1412 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, TQCA-TLS not recognized by Kopete |
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| Space_Man | SineTheCreator: my primary browser is opera (currently 12.16) and I use firefox as backup |
| Space_Man | sometime when I need some info quickly and opera is closed I also use konqueror, but it has some problems with a few sites |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1588 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1588 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdehwlibrary does not support DeviceKit Power management (suspend does not work in CentOS 6 / R14) |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1588 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1589 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1589 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdepowersave shows "Suspend to disk" option, but my system does not support hibernate |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1589 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1539 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1539 minor, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: Amarok: Cannot find mp3 support |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1420 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1420 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Trinity help center: cannot build the search index (Can't exec "beagle-config": No such file or directory at /opt/trinity/bin/khc_beagle_index.pl line 19.) |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1389 from SRUONLY to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1389 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, HAL daemon does not start on OpenSUSE 12.2 |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 531 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=531 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, RFP: ksensors |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 172 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=172 needs packaging, P3, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, mplayerthumbs could be compiled for trinity |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1261 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1261 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, [Regression] kgtk-qt3 3.5.13.1 does not work at all on RHEL6 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1370 from NEW to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1370 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, kbluetooth cannot be disabled using UI dialog |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 23 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=23 minor, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Build issue: ksensors FTBFS on PPA |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net marked bug 1261 as a duplicate of bug 1237. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1261 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, [Regression] kgtk-qt3 3.5.13.1 does not work at all on RHEL6 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1237 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE file save/open dialogs conflict with some third-party programs |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 512 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=512 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Knmap: Missing package |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 570 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=570 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, kasablanca packaging request |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1106 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1106 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE should use system SSL certificates instead of now rather elderly ex-KDE bundle (patch) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1590 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1590 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KPowersave hogs CPU after plug, no more updates |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1590 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1590 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KPowersave hogs CPU after plug, no more updates |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1194 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1194 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kftpgrabber packaging request |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1480 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1480 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, request package kshowmail be made available as kshowmail-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1591 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1591 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kicker shows some slowdowns and lockups |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1412 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1412 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, TQCA-TLS not recognized by Kopete |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1592 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1592 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdednssd was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KDNSSD |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1592 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 512 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=512 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, NEEDINFO, Knmap: Missing package |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 172 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=172 needs packaging, P3, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, mplayerthumbs could be compiled for trinity |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 570 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=570 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, NEEDINFO, kasablanca packaging request |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 531 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=531 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, RFP: ksensors |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1121 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1121 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Wanted: kio_ftps |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1194 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1194 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kftpgrabber packaging request |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1480 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1480 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, request package kshowmail be made available as kshowmail-trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1593 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1593 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: separate build of kfax and kdvi fails |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1593 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1592 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1592 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdednssd was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KDNSSD |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1594 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1594 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue: tdelibs FTBFS on tdehardwaredevices.cpp with some combinations of options |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1594 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1594 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: tdelibs FTBFS on tdehardwaredevices.cpp with some combinations of options |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1595 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1595 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue: check VERSION definition in all cmake-ready modules |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 437 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=437 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Could you please add knoda ? |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1479 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1479 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, request package tork be made available as tork-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 427 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=427 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, NumLock light does not reflect actual state |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 760 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE exits too slow |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 760 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, TDE exits too slow |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1596 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1596 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDM should use system-defined language by default |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1597 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1597 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [regression] pressing the power button shutdown computer, regardless of what I set in tdepowersave |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1598 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1598 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdescreensaver was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KSCREENSAVER |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1599 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1599 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [i18n] Twin: window-specific rules are not translated |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1600 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1600 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kontact crashes on CentOS |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1277 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1277 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, kshutdown package for trinity |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1598 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1598 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdescreensaver was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KSCREENSAVER |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 172 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=172 needs packaging, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, mplayerthumbs could be compiled for trinity |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1479 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1479 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, request package tork be made available as tork-trinity |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1277 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1277 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEEDINFO, kshutdown package for trinity |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 427 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=427 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, NumLock light does not reflect actual state |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 714 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=714 minor, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kio_man does not work with some distros |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 714 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=714 minor, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kio_man does not work with some distros |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1598 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1598 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdescreensaver was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KSCREENSAVER |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 287 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=287 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, empty left pane in kdesu kcontrol |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 287 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=287 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, empty left pane in kdesu kcontrol |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1601 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1601 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Process tdekbdledsync remains still to run |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 570 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=570 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kasablanca packaging request |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1194 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1194 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kftpgrabber packaging request |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 512 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=512 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Knmap: Missing package |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1480 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1480 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, request package kshowmail be made available as kshowmail-trinity |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1277 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1277 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, kshutdown package for trinity |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 531 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=531 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, RFP: ksensors |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1121 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1121 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Wanted: kio_ftps |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1479 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1479 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, request package tork be made available as tork-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1572 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1572 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Where is python-qt3_3.18.1-6ubuntu13.04.0+0_amd64.deb? |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1329 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1329 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, NEW, Build issue: tde-i18n cmake support |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1600 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1600 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Kontact crashes on CentOS |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1602 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1602 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kicker crash when dragging any file on it |
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| jvespinal | Hi |
| jvespinal | somebody here? |
| SlavekB | maybe :) |
| jvespinal | :P |
| jvespinal | somebody using now Trinity Desktop? |
| SlavekB | I'm on TDE 3.5.13.2 on Debian Squeeze |
| jvespinal | can you make a screenshot to see your desktop? |
| Space_Man | jvespinal: my desktop is a random picture (it changes every 60 seconds) and a few icons |
| SlavekB | But where to upload it? |
| jvespinal | imgur.com |
| SlavekB | http://i.imgur.com/2tuhANC.png?1 |
| jvespinal | wow nice desktop |
| jvespinal | I need help, i'm a trinity desktop user since 1 year ago, i changed my laptop to a HP G60 235dx and i have problems with the wifi drivers |
| jvespinal | i can't connect, i downloaded Debian 7 with tde and didn't connect later i downloaded ubuntu 13.04 with tde and connect but with problems |
| SlavekB | You may need to add some firmware for wifi card? |
| jvespinal | my wireless car have a Atheros 5007 chip |
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| jvespinal | card* |
| SlavekB | Have you tried the package firmware-atheros? |
| SlavekB | In the dmesg report to see if the card recognized and for something to complain? |
| jvespinal | from where I can download it? |
| SlavekB | aptitude install firmware-atheros |
| jvespinal | Works in Debian and Ubuntu? |
| jvespinal | or only Debian? |
| SlavekB | This package is for Debian |
| SlavekB | But for Ubuntu that may be similar. |
| Space_Man | jvespinal: mine http://i.imgur.com/zfHxIfA.png |
| jvespinal | Ok, let me install Debian in my laptop and test the firmware, i'll be here in 20 minutes |
| jvespinal | "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched firmware-atheros" |
| SlavekB | You have enabled non-free sources? |
| SlavekB | http://packages.debian.org/wheez |
| SlavekB | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-atheros |
| SlavekB | http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/linux-firmware |
| jvespinal | ok, let me try |
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| jvespinal | thanks for your help @SlavekB |
| SlavekB | You managed to win? |
| jvespinal | yes |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1407 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1407 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, notification popups do not support UTF8 |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1407 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1407 normal, P5, ---, albator78, REOPENED, notification popups do not support UTF8 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1407 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1407 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, notification popups do not support UTF8 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1407 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1407 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, notification popups do not support UTF8 |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 141 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=141 normal, P3, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, KDE xscreensaver integration missing files |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 141 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1601 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1601 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Process tdekbdledsync remains still to run |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1603 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1603 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, klaptopdaemon issues |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1586 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1586 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kcmautostart crashes on exit |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1589 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1589 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, tdepowersave shows "Suspend to disk" option, but my system does not support hibernate |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1475 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1475 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] ScreenSaver not activating |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1604 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1604 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, dbus-1-tqt: dbusxml2qt3 produces malformed c++ templates |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1604 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1604 blocker, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, dbus-1-tqt: dbusxml2qt3 produces malformed c++ templates |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1514 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1514 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kpowersave-nohal don't show battery level on Asus EEE |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1605 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1605 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror crash due to invisible search toolbar |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1606 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1606 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, PCLinuxOS non-official TDE remaster version on the website is outdated |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1593 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1593 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: separate build of kfax and kdvi fails |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1555 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1555 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: libkonq FTBFS when compiled separately |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1556 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1556 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: kicker FTBFS because of missing includes |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1582 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1582 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdm ftbfs if build with -DWITH_XRANDR=OFF |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1554 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1554 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdelibs FTBFS on compilation stage if xrender is missing |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1607 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1607 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, splash image for tdevelop needs branding updating |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1608 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1608 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, k9copy uses internal dvdread headers, instead of system-provided ones |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1608 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1605 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1605 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror crash due to invisible search toolbar |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1607 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1607 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Splash images for tdevelop needs branding updating |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1609 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1609 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Pixmap widget style engine is broken on TDE |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1606 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1606 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, PCLinuxOS non-official TDE remaster version on the website is outdated |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1365 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1365 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, NEEDINFO, Build Issue: Initial cmake support for konversation |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1365 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1365 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, CONFIRMED, Build Issue: Initial cmake support for konversation |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 691 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=691 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, Kio-sword |
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| tehd_ | o/ |
| tehd_ | I'm running TDE on wheezy and I am failing at finding the tdenetworkmanager package for i386 in apt. |
| tehd_ | I've poked around but I've been unable to install it |
| SlavekB | I must now go away. I'll be back in about an hour. If you hold here, then I will give you advice on how it can be solved. |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1481 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1481 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, KlcdDimmer |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 493 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=493 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, kkbswitch needs packaging |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1110 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1110 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kdmtheme: Package should be renamed |
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| SlavekB | tehd_: On Wheezy with a stable TDE 3.5.13.x you have two options: |
| SlavekB | 1) Use a different applet - for example nm-applet. |
| SlavekB | 2) Add apt sources for Squeeze and use network-manager-kde-trinity and network-manager from Squeeze. |
| SlavekB | On Wheezy is a newer version of Network-Manager, which is not compatible with the network-manager applet from TDE 3.5.13.x. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1110 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1110 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdmtheme: Package should be renamed |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1610 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1610 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KAlarm takes a long time to start the first time |
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| elcaset | it sounds like lxde is switching from gtk to Qt. very good! |
| SlavekB | It sounds good, but I am afraid that due to Qt4 them to rise sharply hardware requirements. |
| elcaset | but gtk is no longer a very good option, either. |
| SlavekB | You're right that anyway Qt4 is probably better than GTK :) |
| elcaset | thanks :)> |
| elcaset | someone said this in another irc channel: Well GTK+ is essentially a private implementation lib of GNOME now, from what I understand, and not a real standalone library. |
| SlavekB | GTK was Gimp ToolKit :) |
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| elcaset | SlavekB: kuhl, I didn't know that. |
| tehd_ | SlavekB, aww thanks. I'm already using nm-applet because its the only thing that supports wpa-enterprise but I no longer need to be able to do wpa-enterprise |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1113 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1113 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, kpod should be available |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 87 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=87 trivial, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, opensync-plugin-kdepim package missing |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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| sheilong | hi guys |
| sheilong | i did instaled trinityt in fedora, but slim login manager dont show me an option to choice trinity |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 1598 from tdebase to tdeartwork. |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1598 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1598 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: tdescreensaver was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KSCREENSAVER |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1598 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1598 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdescreensaver was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KSCREENSAVER |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1611 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1611 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: krecipes Sym Links Incorrect |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1612 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1612 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, A blank DVD+R dual layer disk is incorrectly identified as Blank DVDRW |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1594 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1594 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: tdelibs FTBFS on tdehardwaredevices.cpp with some combinations of options |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1579 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1579 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, KRadio: stereo and signal strength indicators not working |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1567 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1567 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, screen stuck at max when using brightness buttons |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1562 from NOTOURPROBLEM to FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1562 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDENetworkManager crashes when underlying NetworkManager is not running |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1613 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1613 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdenetworkmanager provides no method not to autostart |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1614 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1614 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue: cmake doesn't defines HAVE_BACKTRACE |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1614 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1614 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: cmake doesn't defines HAVE_BACKTRACE |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 951 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=951 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: libraries mlt - x86_64 assembler error, incompatible pointer type, qimage/qtransform.h error |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1615 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1615 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDEPowersave does not programmatically enter sleep mode |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1616 filed by ozerski@list.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1616 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, On openSUSE 12.3 Photo cameras (at least some Canon) cannot be accessed from konqueror correctly |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1617 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1617 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdeioslaves FTBFS when compiled in standalone |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1617 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 675 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=675 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, startkde (starttde) needs updating |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1617 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1617 blocker, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdeioslaves FTBFS when compiled in standalone |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1618 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1618 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Status dialog quirks |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 760 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=760 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE exits too slow |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1619 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1619 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue: tdelibs source tree is being modified on configuration with cmake |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1617 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1617 blocker, P5, ---, fatzer2, REOPENED, Build issue: tdeioslaves FTBFS when compiled in standalone |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1614 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1614 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: cmake doesn't defines HAVE_BACKTRACE |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1617 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1617 blocker, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdeioslaves FTBFS when compiled in standalone |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1620 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1620 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Text corruption after suspend to RAM |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1620 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1620 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Text corruption after suspend to RAM |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1621 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1621 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TQGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1622 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1622 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: make available to build without xscreensaver installed |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1623 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1623 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDEPowersave fails to correctly suspend to ram when $HOME is an NFS share |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1622 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1624 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1624 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, hal-find-by-property: command not found message on hal-less system |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1625 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1625 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdehwlib dbus daemon does not work |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1626 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1626 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Some cmake-built packages are missing the translations (build ok with autotools) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1627 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1627 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdeioslave crash messages |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1612 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1612 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, A blank DVD+R dual layer disk is incorrectly identified as Blank DVDRW |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1608 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1608 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: k9copy uses internal dvdread headers, instead of system-provided ones |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1282 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1282 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, File conflict in tdeartwork packages |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1365 from CONFIRMED to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1365 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED INVALID, Build Issue: Initial cmake support for konversation |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1285 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1285 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Hidden symbols support is incomplete |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1365 from RESOLVED INVALID to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1365 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1365 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, NEEDINFO, Build Issue: Initial cmake support for konversation |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1285 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1285 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Hidden symbols support is incomplete |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1612 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1612 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, A blank DVD+R dual layer disk is incorrectly identified as Blank DVDRW |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1344 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1344 normal, P5, ---, darrella, REOPENED, tde-i18n: some conflicts in documentation. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1350 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1350 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: there are a lot of unnecessary headers installed |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1626 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1626 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Some cmake-built packages are missing the translations and/or documentation (build ok with autotools) |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1344 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1344 normal, P5, ---, darrella, NEEDINFO, tde-i18n: some conflicts in documentation. |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1344 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1344 normal, P5, ---, darrella, NEW, tde-i18n: some conflicts in documentation. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 514 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=514 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, aKregator crashes on jpeg display. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1266 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1266 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Broken panels in Control Center and Akregator after upgrade to 3.5.13.1 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1628 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1628 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdbusnotification provides no user option to override the global autostart |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1333 from WORKSFORME to FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1333 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: krdc FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1514 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1514 normal, P5, ---, albator78, REOPENED, kpowersave-nohal don't show battery level on Asus EEE |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1514 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1629 filed by mooroon2@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1629 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Yakuake: Show-stopper hang on "Open new Session" press due to invalid Russian translation file |
| tbottu | 10fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl changed the Status on bug 1251 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1251 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Numbers on KMail and Akregator icon too small |
| tbottu | 10fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl changed the Status on bug 1266 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1266 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Broken panels in Control Center and Akregator after upgrade to 3.5.13.1 |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1588 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1588 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, tdehwlibrary does not support DeviceKit Power management (suspend does not work in CentOS 6 / R14) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1627 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1627 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, tdeioslave crash messages |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1630 filed by mooroon2@mail.ru. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1630 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, xdg-open under TDE opens up non-associated mime types in default browser |
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| lexa2 | Hello, anyone online here? |
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| Fat-Zer_ | lexa2: yep... |
| lexa2 | hi there ) |
| lexa2 | I'm looking for someone who could assist me with a gdb debugging process for trinity KMilo crash I've got here on my home workstation. |
| Fat-Zer_ | AFAIK I had got some experience of debugging and a little hacking kmilo...so what you are stuck on? |
| lexa2 | What I want for starters is to get meaningfull backtrace of the crash without having to recompile the entire TDE. Thus I followed up with installing debuginfo RPMs for the modules in question I want to debug. Trouble is gdb refuses to load symbols from these debuginfo files blaming "warning: "/usr/lib/debug/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.so.debug": separate debug info file has no debug info". |
| lexa2 | The crash I have here is when I press Fn+Smthng combos on my Logitech Wireless Illuminated keyboard. Crash happens for xsyms like XCalculator, XHomePage, XSearch - i.e. thouse which are handled by launch() method in kmilo_generic.cpp. |
| lexa2 | gdb$ bt |
| lexa2 | #0 0x00c67ef5 in KConfigBase::readEntry(char const*, QString const&) const () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| lexa2 | #1 0x00c67e9d in KConfigBase::readEntry(QString const&, QString const&) const () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| lexa2 | #2 0x01e879a6 in KMilo::GenericMonitor::launch(QString, QString) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.so |
| lexa2 | #3 0x01e87d75 in KMilo::GenericMonitor::launchSearch() () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.so |
| lexa2 | #4 0x01e8864c in KMilo::GenericMonitor::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.so |
| lexa2 | #5 0x00cdd879 in KGlobalAccelPrivate::activate(KAccelAction*, KKeySequence const&) () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| lexa2 | #6 0x00cdd1ae in KGlobalAccelPrivate::x11KeyPress(_XEvent const*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| lexa2 | #7 0x00cdc74c in KGlobalAccelPrivate::x11Event(_XEvent*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| lexa2 | #8 0x00c5219d in KAppX11HackWidget::publicx11Event(_XEvent*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| lexa2 | #9 0x00c42e96 in KApplication::x11EventFilter(_XEvent*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdecore.so.4 |
| lexa2 | #10 0x01095ec1 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| lexa2 | #11 0x010a8248 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| lexa2 | #12 0x010bad5b in QEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned int) () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| lexa2 | #13 0x01123780 in QEventLoop::enterLoop() () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| lexa2 | #14 0x011235f7 in QEventLoop::exec() () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| lexa2 | #15 0x0110ce70 in QApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| lexa2 | #16 0x002933b4 in kdemain () from /opt/trinity/lib/libkdeinit_kded.so |
| lexa2 | #17 0x0804893f in main () |
| Fat-Zer_ | use some pastebin service next time... |
| lexa2 | Here is backtrace. Unfortunatelly "bt full" reports just the same info as I can't manage to get symbols info loaded for this lib. |
| lexa2 | No prob, would use pasteurl or something. |
| Fat-Zer_ | hmm... to be honest, I've not really familiare to binary distros... so I can't to suggest anything except rebuilding about the debug issue... |
| lexa2 | Yep, that's would certainly help but I don't really want to waste a lot of time now rebuilding TDE :-(. It's a litte too much for a simple debug task. |
| lexa2 | I'm suspecting that I'm doing something wrong when trying to force gdb into loading debug symbols. Still it either may be a problem with debuginfo packages as I have no problems loading symbols for other packages provided from official CentOS repos. |
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| lexa2 | Well, I guess debuginfo files are to be blamed here :-(. http://pastebin.com/qHw8wZ6n |
| Fat-Zer_ | ладно... всё равно никого нет... а на буржуйском писать надоело... |
| Fat-Zer_ | мда... скорей всего они криво собраны |
| lexa2 | Да тут пиши-не пиши, а, похоже, тупо битые файлы с символами. |
| lexa2 | Ага |
| Fat-Zer_ | кто мейнтейнит центОС я не знаю... |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1627 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1627 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdeioslave crash messages |
| Fat-Zer_ | для начала можно стукнуть в евелоперский мейллист |
| lexa2 | Таки надо пересобирать вручную. В воскресенье устрою себе развлекуху. |
| Fat-Zer_ | *девелоперский |
| lexa2 | Стукнусь, не всё сразу. Я т хотел после работы по быстрому запилить, что там за проблема. Не судьбец. |
| Fat-Zer_ | kmilo ИМХО давно отжил своё... |
| lexa2 | Для якваки исправленный перевод получилось по быстрому сделать, вчера в багзилу отправил. А тут вот засада. |
| lexa2 | Да в общем то, да, только без него не работают в установке по умолчанию кнопки регулирования громкости. |
| lexa2 | Есть туча способов обойти, но таки - некрасивенько же. |
| Fat-Zer_ | я его потыкал, когда на cmake сборку переписывал... там года с 2005-го его не касались вообще похоже... |
| Fat-Zer_ | так что странно, что он вообще хоть как-то работает... |
| lexa2 | Да там я вообще логики не увидел в коде вызовов launch() |
| Fat-Zer_ | а просто на хоткеи повесить не пробовал? |
| lexa2 | На хоткеи вешается и работает. |
| lexa2 | Я ж пишу, что варианты обхода бага есть и много. |
| lexa2 | Это просто ещё один "papercut", который можно было бы поправить по быстрому |
| lexa2 | Таки ладно, пойду ужинать, а то как-то жена косо смотрит ). Если на выходных раскопаю, в чём проблема и наваяю заплату - закину в багзилу. |
| Fat-Zer_ | lexa2: а ты точно на звук кликаешь, а не на поиск? |
| lexa2 | Fat-Zer_: звук работает, падает при кликах на поиск, домой, почта и калькулятор. После падения (с блекдж.. тьфу, с kcrash диалогом) звук не работает - очевидно, потому что сервис kmilo падает. |
| lexa2 | Fat-Zer_: если перезапустить оный через панель управления - звук снова работает, при клике на поиск и Ко - опять падает. |
| Fat-Zer_ | мда, я видать как-то через строчку читал =) |
| Fat-Zer_ | я бы посмотрел kmilodrc в общем конфиге и в ользовательском... |
| Fat-Zer_ | там наверняка какая-то фигня написана |
| Fat-Zer_ | ладно... не задерживаю больше удачи |
| Fat-Zer_ | *, |
| Fat-Zer_ | не... влюбом случае не должно оно падать... |
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| Fat-Zer_ | lexa2: получилось воспроизвести: http://bpaste.net/show/123623/ |
| Fat-Zer_ | lexa2: нуда... config не инициализируется... тим какую-то херню натворил... см. коммит 4bb787f4 |
| Fat-Zer_ | нет... вру... херня эта была давно... |
| Fat-Zer_ | lexa2: в общем увидишь, в GenericMonitor::init(), config на стеке создаётся, а тот, что часть класса не инициализируется... |
| Fat-Zer_ | ладно... прости, что избавил от удовольствия отладки ;-)... пойду посплю немного... |
| Fat-Zer_ | \away |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1631 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1631 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add options to disable automatically launching kttsd with akregator and kalarm |
| lexa2 | Fat-Zer_: да ничего страшного, мне до отладки далеко было ещё - сборкой тушки получилось заняться бы только во второй половине дня воскресенья, если семейные дела позволили бы. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1625 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1625 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, tdehwlib dbus daemon does not work |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1344 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1344 normal, P5, ---, darrella, RESOLVED FIXED, tde-i18n: some conflicts in documentation. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1632 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1632 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDEPowersave Help button does not function |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1633 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, User desktop lock process creates /tmp/tdesocket-global |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 20 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=20 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, LANG is unset in KDE |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 22 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=22 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, libk3b3-extracodecs-kde3 doesn't provide mp3 support! |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 36 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=36 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Upgrading kdm-kde3 resets the default login manager to gdm |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 69 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=69 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Jaunty AMD64 LiveCD Boot Failure |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 99 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=99 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, No internationalization for system interface |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 109 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=109 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, ksmserver-kde3 cannot be removed in jaunty. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 150 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=150 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Un-installing network-manager causes strange delays in Firefox |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 201 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=201 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror reverts to "Icon View" |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 222 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=222 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Incorrect Konqueror behaviour (in file-manager mode) |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 226 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=226 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, in ubuntu 10.04 the kicker-taskbar-compiz-kde3 is missing |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 235 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=235 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror web browser incorrectly displays certain sites |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 256 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=256 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, error during install on existing ubuntu. systems seems ok otherwise |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 263 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=263 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Navigation pane does not paint to bottom of page |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 280 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=280 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Man page conflict among kdevelop-kde3 and kdevelop 4 |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 377 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=377 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, missing changelogs when using adept updater |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 396 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=396 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDevelop builds fail |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 399 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=399 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Missing libpython 2.6 error |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 408 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=408 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Conflict, when install basket from KDE4 and from trinity in debian squeeze |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 412 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=412 normal, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore: No such file or directory |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 413 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=413 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, unable to open file '/usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap' |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com marked bug 435 as a duplicate of bug 1530. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=435 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, knetworkmanager option "Only use VPN Connection for ..." does not work. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1530 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Tde network-manager does not connect with vpnc |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 438 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=438 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kmail fails to poll mailbox |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 454 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=454 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kgtk - erroneous dependency |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 463 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=463 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, add symlink /usr/bin/starttrinity to .deb package |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 474 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=474 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Update manager in debian complains kde-config not found |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 501 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=501 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Sylpheed 3.0.2 crashes on saving an attachment |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 505 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=505 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kgtk-qt3-trinity 3.5.13-0debian7+r1246260+pr1 can't be used |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 507 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=507 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, root-pw not accepted in [Alt]+[F2] |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 509 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=509 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, audacious unable to add files to the playlist/ play files |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 510 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=510 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, gcdmaster crashes opening files |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 529 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=529 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Logout disfunction (10.10 Trinity-ent.) |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 532 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=532 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, konqueror looping indefinitely |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 652 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=652 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kdelibs FTBFS in a symlink directory: CMake Error Cannot find source file |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 815 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=815 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Upgrade from maverick to natty fails at initramfs |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 951 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=951 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: libraries mlt - x86_64 assembler error, incompatible pointer type, qimage/qtransform.h error |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1120 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1120 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] In a TDE session, X11 forwarding is very slow or causes KWin to crash |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1127 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1127 enhancement, P5, ---, mutantturkey, RESOLVED FIXED, Kate: Add the ability to force Kate into MDI mode all the time |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1282 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1282 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, File conflict in tdeartwork packages |
| tbottu | 10fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl changed the Status on bug 1245 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1245 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDM displays garbage |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com marked bug 1401 as a duplicate of bug 1245. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1401 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, TDM causes the appearance of artifacts with various desktop environment |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1579 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1579 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KRadio: stereo and signal strength indicators not working |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1634 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1634 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Selecting Administrator Mode in KControl does not return user to orignal tab |
| tbottu | 10denis.prost@wanadoo.fr changed the Status on bug 362 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=362 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, inconsistency between fileligt and filelight-l10n-kde3 |
| tbottu | 10denis.prost@wanadoo.fr changed the Status on bug 364 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=364 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kitchensync-kde3 install fails |
| tbottu | 10denis.prost@wanadoo.fr changed the Status on bug 340 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=340 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kbabel crashes opening a po file |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 357 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=357 major, P3, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kdemenuedit crashes during icon assignment |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1514 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1514 normal, P5, ---, albator78, NEEDINFO, kpowersave-nohal don't show battery level on Asus EEE |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 141 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=141 normal, P3, ---, albator78, NEEDINFO, KDE xscreensaver integration missing files |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 455 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=455 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [patch] Storage media applet buttons are too large |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1563 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1563 critical, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Kicker menu does not show some applications |
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| ragedragon | Hello, does someone of you is using krypt under TDE please? |
| ragedragon | configure fails as the script is looking for kde libs... |
| ragedragon | when i tried to compile krypt |
| Fat-Zer_ | \whois ragedragon |
| Fat-Zer_ | sorry... be back in an hour... |
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| Fat-Zer_ | ragedragon: krypt wasn't part of kde3, so it wasn't supported by the trinity since it was forked.... for now it will require a lot of patching to make it work... |
| ragedragon | ok thx for notes |
| Fat-Zer_ | I hope the mounting of LUKS-encripted drives will be supported by media-kioslave itself in the nearest future... |
| SlavekB | If I know support for mount the encrypted media is in place for a long time. |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: may be with hal backend... yes but according to my tests tdehw/pmount backend doesn't handle it |
| SlavekB | Yes, you're right, support is for hal backend => current stable branch 3.5.13.x |
| Fat-Zer_ | moreover for pmount it's may be impossible to implement it without changing media kioslaves internal api. [or tdehw API] I'm not sure that's will be better. But I suppose Tim would refuse to change tdehw's API... |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 141 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=141 normal, P3, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, KDE xscreensaver integration missing files |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 357 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=357 major, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdemenuedit crashes during icon assignment |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1635 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1635 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kmail uses wrong sending email even with correct SMTP account |
| tbottu | 10krisgamrat@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1239 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1239 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kmail erroneously replying from wrong account |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1636 filed by krisgamrat@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1636 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Support for Opus codec |
| tbottu | 10krisgamrat@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 536 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=536 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KAudioCreator: Can't name last track |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1637 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1637 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Minor TDEUI change for Trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1638 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1638 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build Issue: kate should install cmake exported dependencies |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1638 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1638 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: kate should install cmake exported targets |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1639 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1639 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, unittest issue: scantest from tdeaddons/konq-plugins/fsview sigfaults |
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| julio | Hi!!! |
| julio | Anybody? |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1639 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1639 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, unittest issue: scantest from tdeaddons/konq-plugins/fsview sigfaults |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1600 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1600 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kontact crashes on CentOS |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1640 filed by jpisini@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1640 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, preview function for comic books |
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| acidolattico | hi |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1641 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1641 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdewallet was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KWALLET |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1642 filed by cs96and@yahoo.co.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1642 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Can't upgrade to 3.5.13.2 on CentOS 5 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1625 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1625 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, tdehwlib dbus daemon does not work |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1643 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1643 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Setting power state using tdehwlib dbus daemon |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1643 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1643 enhancement, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Setting power state using tdehwlib dbus daemon |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1644 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1644 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kicker:systemtray: built-in clock start into English locale; NM applet size 4x4 |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1642 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1642 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, ASSIGNED, Can't upgrade to 3.5.13.2 on CentOS 5 |
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| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: hi, got some time? |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: Just a moment ago I commit your backtrace improvements :) |
| Fat-Zer_ | great, thanks =) |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: I've just finished yet another module cmake port, tdeaddons this time: Bug 1646 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1646 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: Initial cmake support for tdeaddons |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: I wonder if you could take a look.... |
| SlavekB | I'll commit a some improvement to tdehw-dbus-daemon and I'll push it into official repository. |
| SlavekB | Great, I'll look to it and test. |
| Fat-Zer_ | thanks again... |
| Fat-Zer_ | it still lacks support of a couple of modules but it can go ahead into git IMO... of course testing of what is already finished is required... |
| SlavekB | Patches from bug 1638 and bug 1645 are neccessary prior to 1646? |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1638 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: kate should install cmake exported targets |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1645 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: kaddressbook should install cmake exported targets |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: yes, othervice kate-plugins and kaddressbook-plugins won't be able to be built. |
| Fat-Zer_ | *otherwise |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1645 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1645 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: kaddressbook should install cmake exported targets |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1645 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1646 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1646 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: Initial cmake support for tdeaddons |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1646 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1643 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1643 enhancement, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Setting power state using tdehwlib dbus daemon |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1597 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1597 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] Pressing the power button shutdown computer, regardless of what I set in tdepowersave |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1615 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1615 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] TDEPowersave will autosuspend to ram only once |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1575 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1575 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, tdelibs SONAME needs changing |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1604 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1604 blocker, P5, ---, fatzer2, NEEDINFO, Build issue: dbus-1-tqt: dbusxml2qt3 produces malformed c++ templates |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1641 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1641 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdewallet was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KWALLET |
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| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1329 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1329 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tde-i18n cmake support |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 493 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=493 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kkbswitch needs packaging |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1481 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1481 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, KlcdDimmer |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1641 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1641 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: tdewallet was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KWALLET |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 500 from ASSIGNED to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=500 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add window docking application to Trinity |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 500 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1638 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1638 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: kate should install cmake exported targets |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1641 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1641 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tdewallet was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KWALLET |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1615 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1615 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] TDEPowersave will autosuspend to ram only once |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1647 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1647 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Allow TDEPowersave to halt autosuspend with any mouse or keyboard event |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1648 filed by lisi.reisz@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1648 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Weird icon behaviour on desktop |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1641 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1641 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: tdewallet was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KWALLET |
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| d33tah | hi guys |
| d33tah | i'm looking for fedora 19 packages. i can't see them on the website, do you have some development version or something? |
| d33tah | looks like i'll have to downgrade for now. |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5255 |
| SlavekB | http://trinity.mangafrance.com/f19/trinity-3.5.13/RPMS/ |
| d33tah | ummm... iso. so, i need to reinstall anyway, right? |
| d33tah | oh, cool! |
| d33tah | thanks, SlavekB |
| SlavekB | d33tah: you're welcome |
| d33tah | i just got back my netbook from repair, took a few months |
| d33tah | changed my perspective since then, when i saw there Nmap 5.00, i figured it's high time to change my distro. |
| d33tah | (debian sid never really worked fine for me) |
| SlavekB | I am conservative and I keep debian stable + backports :) |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: Hi, I've got a couple of cmake improvements for tdebase... I suspect you'll wanna to review them... where It will be better to put them, to bugzilla or to maillist? |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: you may prefer bugzilla + notification into mailinglist. |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: and what about the patches from mailist thread about backtrace? am I supposed to open a bugreport for them either? |
| SlavekB | Some of them (for tdebase) I already push. |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: You tested whether 0005-kdesktop-lock-remove-tqwidget-include-hacks.patch not break mechanism for hiding popup windows on the locked screen? |
| d33tah | SlavekB: http://pastebin.com/0SzC2U6B |
| d33tah | i guess i should downgrade then? |
| SlavekB | d33tah: something is wrong - packages for Fedora 19 are named fc19, not fc18. |
| d33tah | so i guess these are remains of the f18 i tried to install before |
| d33tah | hm, i wonder how to get rid of it now. |
| d33tah | nvm, sorry to bother you then, i'll keep hacking. |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: hm... no, I've tested only that the desktop and all background windows are not flickering for the moment when resizing performed... also I made sure that the window have exactly the same flags as the window that was created with X API. |
| d33tah | i can see some f18 packages. let's try removing them... |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: so it supposed to work if previously one worked... |
| SlavekB | I could not test it now because of the "broken" packages after the so name change from tdelibs4 => tdelibs14. |
| Fat-Zer_ | I'll test it in half on hour... |
| Fat-Zer_ | *in half an hour |
| d33tah | SlavekB: mind a dumb question? i feel a bit lost. |
| d33tah | ...nvm, i think i got it. |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: I'll test it next morning... seems API is broken again... |
| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: Ok, thank you. |
| Fat-Zer_ | np |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: The remaining two patches from email I commit into my local git repository => will soon be pushed into the official. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1641 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1641 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdewallet was renamed but cmake still uses BUILD_KWALLET |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1648 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1648 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Weird icon behaviour on desktop |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1649 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1649 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kshowmail "comparison with string literal results" warnings |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1649 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| d33tah | hi guys |
| d33tah | i'm having problems with TDM's systemd service file on Fedora |
| d33tah | [root@d33tah-laptop run]# systemctl enable tdm.service |
| d33tah | Failed to issue method call: File exists |
| d33tah | any ideas? |
| d33tah | nvm, it was my fault. lightdm was on. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1650 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1650 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Akregator does not honor special window placement settings when launched from autostart |
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| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: I've just tested the kdesktop losk: yes, krandr popups are kept masked... |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1651 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1651 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: Some regressions in cmake comparing to autotools |
| tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1651 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1642 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1642 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Can't upgrade to 3.5.13.2 on CentOS 5 |
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| SlavekB | bm |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1652 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1652 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kcontrol-ldap-controller-trinity is unable to complete config wizard |
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| tbottu | 10julius.schwartzenberg@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 100 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=100 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED, Keyboard layout switcher does not work |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1653 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1653 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDE4 session launched from TDE has incorrect environnement |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1654 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1654 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KDE4 applications launched from TDE's start menu have incorrect environment |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1654 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1654 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, KDE4 applications launched from TDE's start menu have incorrect environment |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1655 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1655 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, New stderr messages as a result of commit 5354555 |
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| d33tah | hi guys |
| d33tah | is there some knetworkmanager for trinity? |
| d33tah | (most preferrably one without hal dependency?) |
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| SlavekB | d33tah: in R14 => current development branch |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1656 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1656 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Probable race condition: commit d41f5217 2012-05-15 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1657 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1657 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, FIXME UNCLASSIFIED DEVICE |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1654 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1654 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, KDE4 applications launched from TDE's start menu have incorrect environment |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1651 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1651 blocker, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Some regressions in cmake comparing to autotools |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1653 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1653 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, KDE4 session launched from TDM has incorrect environment |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1652 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1652 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kcontrol-ldap-controller-trinity is unable to complete config wizard |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1653 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1653 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, KDE4 session launched from TDM has incorrect environment |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1645 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1645 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: kaddressbook should install cmake exported targets |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1639 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1639 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, unittest issue: scantest from tdeaddons/konq-plugins/fsview sigfaults |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1575 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1575 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdelibs SONAME needs changing |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1658 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1658 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdewalletmanager cannot open the wallet produced by kwallet. |
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| SlavekB | wee5v |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1659 filed by midenok@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1659 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Couldn't start kdeinit; couldn't start ksmserver |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1660 filed by midenok@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1660 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Upgrade from 3.5.12 turns off old user configuration |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1661 filed by midenok@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1661 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Newly installed 3.5.13 system breaks some programs to work |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1529 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1529 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Upgrade from 3.5.13 does not replace kwalletmanager with tdewalletmanager |
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| localhorst | hi, installed 3.5.13.2 on ubuntu 12.04. Biggest problem is that the kmenu crashed always when i select System. Same in kmenuedit, so i can't find out which entry is causing problems ... any ideas how to solve this? |
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| localhorst | found it ... http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=554 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 554: blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, art_render_gradient.c makes kicker and konqueror crash |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1406 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1406 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, The PHP debugger in Quanta doesn't work |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1658 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1658 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] tdewalletmanager cannot open the wallet produced by kwallet. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1626 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1626 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Some cmake-built packages are missing the translations and/or documentation (build ok with autotools) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1662 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1662 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Support for new "suspend-freeze" suspend state |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1662 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1662 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Support for new "suspend-freeze" suspend state |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1010 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1010 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, [Regression] Process table in ksysguard keeps flashing |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1662 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1662 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Support for new "suspend-freeze" suspend state |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1569 from SRUONLY to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1569 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] KDM start TDE after login on black background |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1663 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1663 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Error in konqueror's System sidebar tab |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1065 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1065 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kbfx FTBFS and fails to build help handbook |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1626 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1626 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Some cmake-built packages are missing the translations and/or documentation (build ok with autotools) |
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| Jonas302 | allo |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 691 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=691 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Kio-sword |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1587 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1587 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kcm_gtk crash when GTK3 is not installed |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 734 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=734 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, garbled background image for greeter/login screen |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1528 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1528 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, R14 Tdm cannot start after a system upgrade from 3.5.13 kdm. |
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| fetoega | what is the package name of the trinity sounds |
| fetoega | /var/lib/dpkg/info/konsole-trinity.prerm: 22: /var/lib/dpkg/info/konsole-trinity.prerm: /usr/sbin/update-alternatives: not found |
| fetoega | how do i remove that package? |
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| tbottu | 10f_ii@email.cz changed the Status on bug 1347 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1347 minor, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Mouse pointer not visible when TDE session gets locked. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1490 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1490 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE Hardware Device Manager |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1553 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: xrandr support in tdelibs must depend on cmake options rather than on system configuration |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1289 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1289 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: xcomposite support in tdelibs is not optional |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
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| BQ-AFK | gn to all |
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| K`zan | Hi Folks, just wondering if Trinity works with Mint? |
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| SlavekB | K`zan: As far as I know, Mint is based on Ubuntu. So you can use Trinity packages for the corresponding version of Ubuntu. |
| K`zan | Thanks SlavekB - Got a handicapped friend who is (as the hardware is flaking out) still using deb5 and kde3.5, Got to be replaced at this point and I'd like to keep the "future shock" to a minimum :-). Much appreciated! |
| K`zan | Mint 15 based off ubu 13.04 Now to figure out what that is name wise for the TDE site :-). |
| SlavekB | Ubuntu 13.04 is Raring. |
| K`zan | Just found it, thanks. I wish they would stick with one label across the board, keeps me confused :-). |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1010 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1010 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Process table in ksysguard keeps flashing |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1168 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1168 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: python-tqt FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1494 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1494 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, Starting Synaptic from its icon doesn't work |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1168 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1168 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: python-tqt FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1494 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1494 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Starting Synaptic from its icon doesn't work |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1664 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1664 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kate tab bar plugin extension |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1664 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| Marius80 | hi |
| Marius80 | Anyone around? SlavekB maybe? |
| SlavekB | Marius80: Hi, I have not seen you for a long time. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, true that, I was off due to health reasons for a long time :) |
| Marius80 | Everythink okay with you? |
| Marius80 | s/k/g/ |
| Marius80 | means: Everything instead of everythink *g* |
| SlavekB | Yes. But I still have a lack of time :) |
| Marius80 | lol :) so nothing changed :) |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, I thought about switching to debian stable (wheezy) |
| Marius80 | will it work with trinity? |
| Marius80 | btw. is the networkmanager integrated now? |
| SlavekB | Yes, I have a working machine, where I use TDE 3.5.13.2 on Wheezy. For NetworkManager is need to hold Squeeze version. |
| SlavekB | ...or use R14 (nightly builds) instead of 3.5.13.2 :) |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, how stable is R14 nightly build? |
| Marius80 | is it better to.... a) use wheezy with "wicd" or b) wheezy with R14 nightly ? |
| SlavekB | I have R14 only on a test machine, so I can not give experience of real use. |
| Marius80 | is there already a release date for R14 ? |
| SlavekB | But the use Wheezy + NetworkManager from Squeeze I have verified :) |
| Marius80 | maybe I misunderstood you first, I thought you meant I should use debian squeeze |
| Marius80 | so I will install wheezy, the wheezy trinity version and the network manager from another repo? |
| SlavekB | You can upgrade to Wheezy and hold networkmanager from Squeeze. |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, you know that I use ubuntu at the moment? |
| Marius80 | wheezy would be a complete new installation |
| Ruusento | Marius80: I'm using wicd on my laptop with wheezy, and it's quite good, even though NetworkManager has more features |
| SlavekB | Oh, I forgot. In this case, you can install Wheezy and then add the apt sources for Squeeze (next to Wheezy sources) and choose NetworkManager from Squeeze. |
| Ruusento | SlavekB: I don't think it's a good idea to pin a package from an older version, probably in the future a library update would break NM |
| SlavekB | Current state of R14 looks good. Stabilizes, the supply of patches is small => fixes reported bugs. |
| Marius80 | so maybe R14 nightly build would be better? |
| SlavekB | Yes, I know. I assume it as a temporary solution until R14 will be release. |
| Marius80 | Ruusento, wicd is a real option, but a bad one *g* |
| Ruusento | Marius80: not so bad, I would say |
| Marius80 | well I am going to use that |
| Ruusento | I'll just wait for R14 |
| Marius80 | I was thinking about "debian testing", "debian stable" or "LDME (Linux Mint Debian Edition)" the whole day |
| Ruusento | and eventually go back to NM |
| Ruusento | are you going to install that on an old PC? |
| SlavekB | At this time still underway build of some packages from latest large update, so in this moment may be in nightly builds some inconsistencies. |
| Marius80 | not sooo old (3 years old) |
| Marius80 | but KDE4 cannot be used as I'd like to |
| Marius80 | from pressing the power button until opening firefox it needs 3 mins 48 sek |
| Marius80 | when sitting with a customer this is a long time |
| Marius80 | using ubuntu 13.04 atm |
| Ruusento | it's quite strange for a 3yrs old PC |
| Ruusento | maybe you could even try a KDE4-minimal install (without nepomuk and akonadi) |
| Ruusento | but Debian stable + TDE would be the best bet |
| Marius80 | I will go for that |
| Marius80 | Ruusento, Linux mint is a bad idea, right? |
| Marius80 | the debian linux mint |
| Ruusento | it's an hassle to get TDE installed over that |
| Ruusento | with Debian stable you can install a minimal system without X and whatsoever |
| Ruusento | add the TDE repositories to sources.list |
| Marius80 | how will I get wifi without X ? |
| Ruusento | iwconfig ;) |
| Marius80 | I need to note the repo info before going offline |
| Ruusento | anyways the first part of the install you should do that via Ethernet |
| Ruusento | or you have to burn the whole first Debian DVD |
| Ruusento | netinst builds don't support WiFi out of the box |
| Ruusento | so you need a wired connection in any case |
| Marius80 | well, there is no Ethernet connection around |
| Marius80 | I can only offer wifi :( |
| Marius80 | it's a UMTS router offering wifi but no cable |
| Ruusento | urgh, installing Debian thru UMTS is going to take lots of bandwidth (if you have traffic caps) |
| Marius80 | Ruusento, I thought about this: going to an internet/call shop, downloading the DVD |
| Marius80 | installing from DVD and doing the rest using the internet |
| Marius80 | I will need to download all the server stuff (mysql, php, apache, and so on) |
| Marius80 | php-pear, the libs, whatever |
| Marius80 | codecs.... browsers, clients, and so on |
| Marius80 | so about 200 programs |
| Ruusento | quite an hassle |
| Marius80 | :( |
| Marius80 | Ruusento, if I'd take this one: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
| Marius80 | (DVD on the right side) |
| Marius80 | shouldn't there be muuuch software already on the DVD ? |
| Marius80 | like xchat, firefox, gimp, etc... |
| Ruusento | on the first DVD there are the DEs, X, etc... |
| Ruusento | there's Iceweasel on Debian, no Firefox ;P |
| Ruusento | it's the same software, but rebranded because of copyright issues on the logo |
| Marius80 | yep, heard about that |
| Marius80 | Ruusento, last little question: If I install debian with kde4, will trinity be a problem then? |
| Ruusento | no, Trinity packages are rebranded so you can keep both ;) |
| Ruusento | you could choose Xfce just to skip removing akonadi and nepomuk afterwards |
| Marius80 | good idea |
| Marius80 | Ruusento, btw. those are the programs I hate most beside of virtuose-t |
| Marius80 | they always eat up 90% of my system speed and make my pc overheat |
| Ruusento | I know |
| Ruusento | there are some Debian derived distros that have KDE4 without nepomuk and akonadi |
| Ruusento | such as Aptosid and Siduction |
| Marius80 | oh, nice :) |
| Ruusento | but are derived from unstable |
| Ruusento | I don't think it's a good idea for a production/development workstation |
| Marius80 | Ruusento, I've been thinking about using a derivat for a long time, but I think good old debian would be the best choise ever |
| Ruusento | Debian stable has a consolidated ecosystem, so it's the best bet for a work box |
| Marius80 | Do you live in africa? |
| Ruusento | nope |
| Ruusento | it's the tld that's from Africa |
| Ruusento | :P |
| Marius80 | I clicked your name by a mistake, and it says "Central African Republic" :) |
| Marius80 | was already thinking about elephants and crocodiles :) |
| Ruusento | lol |
| Ruusento | it's just because they were giving free domains |
| Ruusento | and it's another one on my bind server |
| Ruusento | :P |
| Marius80 | oh I see :)) |
| Marius80 | free domains is a nice idea *g* |
| Ruusento | I'm from Italy, anyways |
| Ruusento | ok, going out for dinner |
| Ruusento | have fun with Debian, Marius80 |
| Ruusento | ;) |
| Marius80 | Have a great dinner :) |
| Marius80 | thank you very much :) |
| Marius80 | bye bye |
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| K`zan | Hi folks, I'm attempting to hack Mint 15 for TDE, I'm kind of confused on item 2 of the installation guide. Nothing with "-updates" on the ubu repositories, but I get updates anyway. Also, that item 2 seems to be new from last time I installed TDE on ubu (LONG time back), help ? |
| K`zan | Ah, never mind, loose nut behind the console here :). |
| K`zan | Hummm, is TDE only 32 bit (64bit Mint 15 here)? |
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| K`zan | Erkkk, help. Installed TDE and it blew away my user. Now I need to login as root to fix it and the TDE dm won't allow root logins, how to fix? TIA!!!!!!!!! |
| K`zan | Yikes, kdmrc doesn't seem to exist, probably should not have changed from mdm :-(. |
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| K`zan | What a mess :-(. |
| K`zan | Sigh, looks like TDM doesn't work in Mint 15, created lots of problems :-(. |
| K`zan | Won't shutdown now, have to force it with power or reset switch. Sigh... |
| K`zan | Reinstall from scratch at this point :-(. As much as I love TDE I am no longer willing to suffer ubu. |
| K`zan | At any rate, thanks for your efforts folks! |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1531 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1531 critical, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, Kvpnc is useless as it is not possible to run as root. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1531 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1531 critical, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Kvpnc is useless as it is not possible to run as root. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1629 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1629 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Yakuake: Show-stopper hang on "Open new Session" press due to invalid Russian translation file |
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| Marius80 | hi |
| Marius80 | got a problem on a blank, new Debian Wheezy (7.1.0) installation |
| Marius80 | using the last stable release of trinity desktop |
| Marius80 | SlavekB ? |
| Marius80 | Ruusento? |
| Marius80 | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aTXDy3jS |
| SlavekB | What is the version of the package kde-trinity? |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: not sure ... .aptitude show ? |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=dkex2znx |
| SlavekB | I tried it just now on my test machine and no I have not encountered the problem. |
| Marius80 | lol, we had the same conversation the last time with an other problem LOL |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: this is a completely new, blank installation |
| SlavekB | I have a test machine installed for a long time, but it's my test builder => absolute bare system. |
| SlavekB | What do you have configured APT sources? |
| Marius80 | well, so it won't work out for me :( |
| Marius80 | I used the wheezy DVD 1 to install |
| Marius80 | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main |
| Marius80 | great, the web irc client took my line breaks away |
| Marius80 | 1 moment pls |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rLu3rU2T |
| SlavekB | You install a minimal system or you have installed some other DE? |
| Marius80 | nope, I installed DVD 1 with gnome as desktop environment |
| Marius80 | but actually this shouldn't be a problem to run trinity with other environments, should it? |
| SlavekB | It is possible that there is a conflict due foomatic-db-compressed-ppds? |
| Marius80 | oh my goodness, that was the problem from my last installation try > 6 month ago |
| Marius80 | I only know what I pasted you in the first link |
| Marius80 | cannot see anything about this foomatic stuff |
| Marius80 | SlavekB: the question is: Why doesn't it try to install the packages? it says: |
| Marius80 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde-trinity : Depends: ......... but it is not going to be installed |
| Marius80 | so why is it not going to be installed? |
| Marius80 | comming back soon |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 566 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=566 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kdebase-trinity source package fails to build |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1168 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1168 critical, P1, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: python-tqt FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1168 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1168 critical, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: python-tqt FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1054 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1054 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: soundkonverter FTBFS without --with-extra-includes |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1604 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1604 blocker, P5, ---, fatzer2, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: dbus-1-tqt: dbusxml2qt3 produces malformed c++ templates |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1595 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1595 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build Issue: check VERSION definition in all cmake-ready modules |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1659 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1659 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Couldn't start kdeinit; couldn't start ksmserver |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1595 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1595 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build Issue: check VERSION definition in all cmake-ready modules |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1665 filed by joele54@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1665 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, DCOPServer failure... |
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| tbottu | 10midenok@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1659 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1659 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Couldn't start kdeinit; couldn't start ksmserver |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1659 from NEW to SRUONLY. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1659 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, SRUONLY, Couldn't start kdeinit; couldn't start ksmserver |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1666 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1666 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, TDE R14 does not let me mount the other partitions on my hard disk drive |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1667 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1667 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Progress bar at the logout time |
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| elcaset | Looking forward to the 1st ever Seattle GNU/Linux conference, Scheduled for October 11th and 12th at SCCC | SeaGL.org |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 434 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=434 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, kscope is missing |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1668 filed by michael_temp1234@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1668 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, repo mirrors 404 |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1667 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1667 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Progress bar at the logout time |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1615 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1615 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] TDEPowersave will autosuspend to ram only once |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1627 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1627 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, tdeioslave crash messages |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1233 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, turn-off and restart not finished in TDE 3.5.13.1 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1669 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1669 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, ASSERT: "width" in tdelibs/kate/part/katerenderer.cpp |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1670 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1670 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kget no longer gets. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1671 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1671 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [FIXME] HardwareInfo::setPowerSave unimplemented! |
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| K`zan | Hi folks, in the process of trying to install TDE on kubuntu 12.04. Followed all the steps on the installation page but when I get to the actual install, I get: |
| K`zan | The following packages have unmet dependencies: ?all tde? followed by: |
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| K`zan | (all packages listed are followed by "but is not going to be installed" |
| K`zan | Ending with: |
| K`zan | elcaset: unable to correct problems, you have broken packages. |
| K`zan | \E: unable to correct problems, you have broken packages. |
| K`zan | Did an update and installed all updates before starting to install TDE. |
| K`zan | Would much appreciate any assistance, pointers, comments on this matter. THANKS! |
| K`zan | sudo apt-get clean didn't help... |
| K`zan | duhhh, was trying for raring, I dropped that {slush} |
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| elcaset | K`zan> elcaset: unable to correct problems, you have broken packages. huh? |
| elcaset | it seems we are neighbors |
| elcaset | (WA state) |
| K`zan | Ah, Seattle more or less. |
| elcaset | ja, i'm just northeast of Seattle |
| K`zan | Just wondering if there is a way to carry forward email from kmail from kde3 (deb5) to TDE? |
| K`zan | Also, appears successful install of TDE, amazing what the right repositories will do :-). |
| K`zan | Switching to TDE now from that POS kde4... |
| elcaset | may be, but I don't use kmail, & idk. hopefully somebody else in here knows? |
| elcaset | i like both KDE4 & TDE, but that's just me :)> |
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| K`zan | Compared to kde3/TDE kde4 just ain't got the same usability :-(. |
| K`zan | My desktop is a mess :-), KDE4 insists on putting all in one folder on the desktop that isn't a desktop but the folder is the desktop, my brain hurts :). |
| elcaset | well, whatever works for ya. I prefer KDE4 on most hardware, but TDE on really old hardware. |
| elcaset | i think there's a way to change that in KDE4. |
| elcaset | traditional mode or something |
| K`zan | Yeah, they changed about everything that I can see. 3 was VERY convenient to manipulate, 4 is doing far more for me than I wish... |
| elcaset | haha |
| elcaset | well, it's good that TDE is an option. |
| K`zan | Yes, it surely is, bless the folks at TDE :). |
| K`zan | !!!!!!!!!!! |
| tbottu | K`zan: Error: "!!!!!!!!!!" is not a valid command. |
| K`zan | LOL |
| elcaset | haha |
| K`zan | Looking good here, rebooting to make sure it logs me in... |
| elcaset | nice |
| K`zan | May have to fix that in TDE. |
| K`zan | Nope, we are GOOD to go! |
| K`zan | Would be nice if I could just pickup kmail contents though. |
| K`zan | Chili I am making is smelling way too good, may not last until dinner to attack it :-). |
| elcaset | understandable |
| K`zan | Well, lessee if google has any clues about the email. |
| elcaset | gotta go take down an antenna while the weather is good. seeya later. good luck. |
| K`zan | Antenna, gl es 73 :-) |
| elcaset | hah, & you're a Ham, too. too kuhl! |
| K`zan | LOL |
| K`zan | It looks like picking up the old KDE3 Kmail is as easy as putting a link from ~/.trinity/share/apps/kmail/mail to wherever the old stuff was. Much complaining about indexes, but it seems to be working. |
| K`zan | FAT CITY! |
| K`zan | No, not the one outside New Orleans :). |
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| K`zan | Is ~/.trinity/Autostart/{script(s)} supposed to run? |
| K`zan | Having a hell of a time with getting mousekeys enabled. |
| K`zan | Seems that I can only enable them after TDE is up and running from a terminal. Autostart script with the same commands doesn't appear to work, neither does it from .bashrc. |
| K`zan | Wheeee........................ |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1672 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1672 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, gtk-qt-engine crash on opening kcmgtk |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1673 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1673 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Variable TDE_IS_PRELINKED is not set correctly in some distributions |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1673 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1136 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1136 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Tdegraphics installs poppler-tqt headers in hardcoded "kde" subdirectory |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 434 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=434 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, kscope is missing |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 994 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=994 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [kopete] now listen plugin works poorly |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1674 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1674 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kopete : large memory leaks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1675 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1675 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, amarok : very frequent crashes |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1676 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1676 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Alt+H does not work anywhere |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1673 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1673 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Variable TDE_IS_PRELINKED is not set correctly in some distributions |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1672 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1672 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, gtk-qt-engine crash on opening kcmgtk |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1672 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1672 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEW, gtk-qt-engine crash on opening kcmgtk |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1677 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1677 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Konqueror listview rename enhancement |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1677 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1682 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1682 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, Konsole: Tab popup context menu does not include Move Session Left/Right options |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1684 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1684 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Can't set desktop background image |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 909 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=909 normal, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Konsole: Add check box to control mouse wheel cycling over tab bar |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1682 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1682 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Konsole: Tab popup context menu does not include Move Session Left/Right options |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 910 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=910 normal, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror: Add check box to control mouse wheel cycling over tab bar |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1067 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1067 minor, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror: Tab popup context menu does not include Move Tab Left/Right options |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1672 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1672 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, [Regression] gtk-qt-engine crash on opening kcmgtk |
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| Funkin-Stoopid | hi |
| Funkin-Stoopid | I'm on archlinux but there is no repositories anymore for trinty, why? |
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| SlavekB | Funkin-Stoopid: missing someone who would maintain the arch repository. |
| SlavekB | It was originally prepared by David C. Rankin, but has been inactive for a long time. |
| Funkin-Stoopid | SlavekB: only for this ! ok |
| Funkin-Stoopid | ubunu/debian/fedora/opensuse got repositories, they could not share their server with archlinux ? |
| SlavekB | We need someone who knows how to create packages for arch distribution. |
| SlavekB | We need someone who will build these packages. |
| Funkin-Stoopid | ok |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 360 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=360 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED, Requesting: icons only option for taskbar |
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| cmpitg | Hi |
| cmpitg | I think some info like communication channels (mailing lists and IRC channel) should be included in the main Wiki page: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome |
| cmpitg | So that (dev) people immediately know how to reach the dev team or communicate with each other |
| cmpitg | I've had a bit of difficulty finding that info on the Wiki :"). So I think it might be helpful to include them on the main page |
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| -cameron.freenode.net- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1675 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1675 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, [Regression] amarok : very frequent crashes |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1672 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1672 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] gtk-qt-engine crash on opening kcmgtk |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1597 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1597 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED, [Regression] Pressing the power button shutdown computer, regardless of what I set in tdepowersave |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1685 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1685 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Cmake conversion did not migrate kttsd test from automake |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1675 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1675 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] amarok : very frequent crashes |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 360 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=360 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, Requesting: icons only option for taskbar |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1677 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1677 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, Konqueror listview rename enhancement |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 448 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=448 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Taskbar text customization |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1686 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1686 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, NEW, File copy window focus enhancement patch |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1686 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1675 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1675 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] amarok : very frequent crashes |
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| Marius80 | hi |
| Marius80 | anyone around? |
| Marius80 | localhorst, I just really had to laugh about your nickname :) |
| Marius80 | localhorst, might only be funny for german people, but actually I am german and I find it *really* funny :) |
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| Marius80 | hi SlavekB !!! :-) |
| Marius80 | is there already any information around about the release date of R14 ? |
| Marius80 | my system still does not let me install the current trinity version because of unresolved dependencies |
| SlavekB | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/39 |
| Marius80 | 2013-11-25 ? :))) |
| Marius80 | YEEEEAH you saved my life :) |
| Marius80 | SlavekB, may I please ask you if there is *anything* I could do in the meantime to get the currect release to work? |
| SlavekB | It is possible that a reason for the delay appears, but so far it looks pretty good. |
| Marius80 | when I try to install trinity, apt-get wants to remove these packages: |
| Marius80 | cervisia desktop-base foomatic-db-compressed-ppds kdesdk kompare |
| Marius80 | btw. I downloaded the preconfigures wheezy from trinitydesktop.org (the exegnulinux one) but I got a non-bootable system with a grub-error and gave up after 2 hours |
| Marius80 | then I installed debian wheezy from the 1st DVD (4 GB) |
| SlavekB | I'm sorry, I have to go away for a while. |
| Marius80 | and now, as I said, I cannot install trinity anymore because of apt-get, which wants to remove: "cervisia desktop-base foomatic-db-compressed-ppds kdesdk kompare" |
| Marius80 | ok sorry |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1687 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1687 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Can't load kate tabbar or katefiletemplates plugins |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1688 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1688 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KCM Module crash |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1687 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1687 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Can't load kate tabbar or katefiletemplates plugins |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1688 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1688 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, KCM Mouse module crash |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1689 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1689 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Can not permanently change the default shortcut for 'Create Folder' in Konqueror |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 360 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=360 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Requesting: icons only option for taskbar |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1688 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1688 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEW, KCM Mouse module crash |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1677 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1677 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, Konqueror listview rename enhancement |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1690 filed by rom_as@oscada.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1690 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdesktop: crash at icon find into properties to folder on desktop |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1646 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1646 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Build Issue: Initial cmake support for tdeaddons |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1691 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1691 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Convert individual thread managers to TQt3 thread manager |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1690 from NEW to SRUONLY. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1690 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, SRUONLY, kdesktop: crash at icon find into properties to folder on desktop |
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| Vasistha | where is the T menu stored? I've just installed an application and it does not appear in the T menu, so I need to manually enter it |
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| SlavekB | Vasistha: You mean folders /opt/trinity/share/applications and applnk? |
| Vasistha | SlavekB: ah yes - thank you. I continued looking and it seems that there are a number more desktop files in /home/username/.local/share/applications -- but only in an older version, I don't see any in tde 14 |
| Vasistha | oh man this does not look very easy to copy over. how am I supposed to generate these crazy things? yeesh |
| SlavekB | What's the application that did not appear in the menu? |
| Vasistha | SlavekB: crossover office. My existing installation has a whole submenu with numerous entries |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1692 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1692 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] TDEHTML: Wrong rendering of some HTML |
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| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1701 from REOPENED to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1701 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED, No menu accelerators in the konsole menu bar |
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| Zero_Angel | would anyone know a common cause of 'failed to start kdeinit' on Ubuntu 12.04 ? |
| |avalon| | Yes |
| |avalon| | Ubuntu is doomed |
| Zero_Angel | thanks, that really helps |
| SlavekB | Zero_Angel: If you have installed package kgtk3-trinity, purge it. |
| Zero_Angel | kgtk-qt3-trinity - Use KDE dialogs in Gtk apps |
| Zero_Angel | this one? |
| Zero_Angel | gtk-qt-engine-trinity - theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x and Trinity |
| Zero_Angel | or this one? |
| SlavekB | First - kgtk-qt3-trinity. |
| Zero_Angel | it's not installed |
| Zero_Angel | I simply did a sudo killall -9 Xorg after installing TDE. I wonder if I have to reboot. |
| Zero_Angel | like some services have to be initialized |
| SlavekB | Ok, let's look into $HOME/.xsession-errors if there will be any useful informations. |
| Zero_Angel | k. i'll try it |
| Zero_Angel | SlavekB can you analyze my paste? http://pastebin.com/15byniQZ |
| SlavekB | /opt/trinity/bin/kdeinit: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libDCOP.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject21objectTreesListObjectEv |
| SlavekB | You need to update qt3 to Trinity version. |
| Zero_Angel | SlavekB: that worked! thank you very much! |
| SlavekB | you're welcome :) |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: is there a recommended method to upgrade from 3.5.13.2 to 3.5.14 ? |
| SlavekB | They are ready transient packages to ensure a smooth transition renamed packages. |
| SlavekB | If you want to test nigthly-builds, it should be enough to edit apt sources and use: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| Space_Man | thanks SlavekB |
| Space_Man | I've added 4 lines similar to "deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu quantal main" to my sources |
| Space_Man | there are 200 new packages! |
| |avalon| | Does anyone but me have issues with noatun? |
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| Space_Man | what is noatun? |
| |avalon| | music player |
| |avalon| | actually, media |
| Space_Man | I've never used it |
| |avalon| | It was default in TDE |
| Space_Man | I normally use amarok or vlc |
| |avalon| | it didnt work, so i replaced it with |
| |avalon| | exactly |
| |avalon| | audacious for mp3's and vlc for video |
| |avalon| | i am just curious |
| Space_Man | I'll try it in about 4 hours |
| |avalon| | ok :] |
| Space_Man | the 3.5.14 upgrade will take another 1 hour to finish and I'm going out later |
| Space_Man | what is the problem with noatun? |
| |avalon| | started normally, have no sound output |
| |avalon| | started from console, it gives "cant connect to" some server or socket |
| |avalon| | unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-avalon/KanotixBox-1193-527f6fd9) |
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| Zero_Angel | Is there any way to stop apps from maximizing to both monitors and things from appearing in-between screens on a dual monitor config? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1708 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1708 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity cannot mount USB keys without pmount utility |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1708 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| Space_Man | SlavekB: which desktop manager do I need: kdm-trinity, lightdm, tdm-trinity ? |
| Space_Man | I suspect it is tdm-trinity |
| SlavekB | kdm-trinity is for v3.5.13.x branch, tdm-trinity is for R14 branch. |
| SlavekB | During upgrade kdm-trinity will be automatically replaced by tdm-trinity. |
| Space_Man | thanks SlavekB |
| SlavekB | At present, configuration from kdm-trinity is not converted to tdm-trinity => tdm-trinity must be configured. |
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| Space_Man | is this error important http://paste.debian.net/65232/ ? |
| SlavekB | I need more information why these packages failed. :) |
| Space_Man | it is the last lines of the upgrade log http://paste.debian.net/65233/ |
| SlavekB | Thank you, this helped. I found: |
| SlavekB | For libtqt-perl: |
| SlavekB | trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/pqtapi.1.gz', which is also in package libqt-perl 3.008-5ubuntu12.10.0+0 |
| SlavekB | And for kio-umountwrapper: |
| SlavekB | Ignoring request to remove shared diversion 'diversion of /opt/trinity/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop to /opt/trinity/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop.distrib by kio-umountwrapper-trinity'.Ignoring request to remove shared diversion 'diversion of /opt/trinity/share/apps/dolphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop to /opt/trinity/share/apps/dolphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop.di |
| SlavekB | nity'.Ignoring request to remove shared diversion 'diversion of /opt/trinity/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop to /opt/trinity/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop.distrib by kio-umountwrapper-trinity'. |
| SlavekB | Space_Man: Please, can you post result of: dpkg-divert --listpackage "/opt/trinity/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop" |
| Space_Man | the result is "kio-umountwrapper-trinity" |
| Space_Man | http://paste.debian.net/65237/ |
| SlavekB | Thank you, that's right. And output from: |
| SlavekB | dpkg-divert --package kio-umountwrapper-trinity --remove --rename /opt/trinity/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop |
| Space_Man | "Permission denied", should I use sudo? |
| SlavekB | Yes, sudo is necessary. |
| Space_Man | http://paste.debian.net/65241/ |
| SlavekB | Strange. The same command is executed during the update, but there caused: |
| SlavekB | Ignoring request to remove shared diversion 'diversion of /opt/trinity/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop |
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| Space_Man | back, I was afk |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: what should I do now? |
| Space_Man | running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" again fails |
| Space_Man | http://paste.debian.net/65254/ |
| SlavekB | 1) uninstal libqt-perl: sudo dpkg -r libqt-perl |
| SlavekB | 2) remove remaining diverts from kio-umountwrapper-trinity |
| SlavekB | sudo dpkg-divert --package kio-umountwrapper-trinity --remove --rename /opt/trinity/share/apps/dolphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop |
| SlavekB | sudo dpkg-divert --package kio-umountwrapper-trinity --remove --rename /opt/trinity/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop |
| SlavekB | Then should be possible to proceed: sudo apt-get install -f |
| Space_Man | woo hoo |
| Space_Man | something is working :P |
| Space_Man | konsole is full of "Setting up ..." |
| SlavekB | Finally you can repeat: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| Space_Man | http://paste.debian.net/65256/ sudo apt-get install -f |
| Space_Man | http://paste.debian.net/65257/ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| SlavekB | The package tde-guidance-trinity is broken anyway, so error messages from this package are not interesting as well. |
| SlavekB | Suspect is why it is not upgraded package python-trinity-trinity. |
| Space_Man | I just restarted but the strange TSK (ctrl, alt, del) or whatever its called window did not appear |
| SlavekB | SAK |
| SlavekB | Did not open TDM? |
| Space_Man | yes SAK |
| Space_Man | it went to the user login/password screen |
| Space_Man | I just found the SAK tickbox in the settings, it was unticked, I have now ticked it |
| SlavekB | It seems that something is missing to activate SAK. |
| SlavekB | Is loaded kernel module uinput? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1726 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1726 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdeio_media: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave: |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1324 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1324 enhancement, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, Add mouse double-click test area in KControl->Peripherals->Mouse->Advanced |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1667 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1667 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED, Progress bar at the logout time |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1667 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1667 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, Progress bar at the logout time |
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| hurdorbsd | how to install trinity on debian |
| SlavekB | hurdorbsd: You can use debian netinst to install minimal Debian system and then follow instructions on http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/DebianBinaryInstallation |
| hurdorbsd | ok I would try.. Is it the old KDE ? |
| SlavekB | Yes, Trinity continues in the spirit of KDE 3.5 :) |
| hurdorbsd | So it is light on resources |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1708 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1708 major, P5, ---, albator78, REOPENED, Trinity cannot mount USB keys without pmount utility |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1708 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1708 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, Trinity cannot mount USB keys without pmount utility |
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| Zero_Angel | does anyone know if my trinity-desktop will implode if these are removed? kdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity kdebase-trinity kdeprint-trinity |
| Zero_Angel | and also ksmserver-trinity |
| Zero_Angel | kde4 upgrade wants to remove some trinity components :/ |
| SlavekB | ksmserver is session manager |
| Zero_Angel | so if that's removed, in theory the desktop should still work, it just wont save its state? |
| Zero_Angel | guess i'll be finding out |
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| SlavekB | If you want to have a functional TDE, removing mentioned packages is not good idea :) |
| Zero_Angel | k, i'll see if I can resolve the dependency manually then. It's probably just the metapackage trying to pull something else I can live without |
| SlavekB | Metapackages are dispensable. Instead, you can choose the needed packages, which are like their dependencies. |
| Zero_Angel | yup, looks like it was just some foomatic stuff that doesnt like TDE. Not a big deal. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 985 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=985 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdesu: remove the "ignore" button |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 853 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=853 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdebase: Using konsole as root is hard-coded to sudo |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1324 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1324 enhancement, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Add mouse double-click test area in KControl->Peripherals->Mouse->Advanced |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1667 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1667 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Progress bar at the logout time |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1089 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1089 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, Kaffeine: No menu option to re-run the initial setup wizard. |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 888 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=888 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kinit: fprintf(stderr, "tdeinit: PID %ld terminated.\n", (long) exit_pid); |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 610 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=610 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED WONTFIX, ktorrent (from kde4) crashes when started within trinity |
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| jmilot | Hello |
| jmilot | I have some questions about desktop files |
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| jmilot | someone know what is the problem ? |
| jmilot | someone can give me informations about kderc file ? |
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| jmilot | in the second test, i find the desktop files of /opt/trinity/share/applications |
| jmilot | i think one file in the /opt/trinity directory make it works |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1727 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1727 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kdebase-3.5.13.2 FTBFS: cannot find -ldbus-tqt-1 |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1727 from NEW to SRUONLY. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1728 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1728 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kpdf crash on logout |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1729 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1729 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, koffice: kplato crash on logout |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1730 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1730 normal, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, NEW, libept-trinity doesn't build any more in Debian/Jessie |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1730 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1678 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1678 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Bad signature in trinity-sip |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1731 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1731 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: python-tqt FTBFS using SIP >= 4.15 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1731 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1731 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: python-tqt FTBFS using SIP >= 4.15 |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1732 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1732 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: python-trinity FTBFS using SIP 4.15 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1733 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1733 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Launcher menu (T-Menu) takes a long time to appear the first time using Alt+F1 |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1202 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1202 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdelibs: Reduce xsession log spew |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1706 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1706 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Improve option to change the TDE menu button icon |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1707 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1707 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Update KDEsu classes to TDEsu |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1089 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1089 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Kaffeine: No menu option to re-run the initial setup wizard. |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 888 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=888 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, kinit: fprintf(stderr, "tdeinit: PID %ld terminated.\n", (long) exit_pid); |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1135 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1135 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tdegraphics does not detect imlib2 |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1138 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1138 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: tdenetwork does not support parallel build |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 888 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=888 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kinit: fprintf(stderr, "tdeinit: PID %ld terminated.\n", (long) exit_pid); |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 1138 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1138 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdenetwork does not support parallel build |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1532 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1532 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Running nmap causes desktop sharing to crash and no backtrace is produced |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1532 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1532 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Running nmap causes desktop sharing to crash and no backtrace is produced |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1703 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1703 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] krdc: sloppy rendering changes on screen |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1703 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1703 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] krdc: sloppy rendering changes on screen |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 643 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=643 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing Desktop Icon Activation Effect Requires Restarting TDE |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 769 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=769 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Ark: consistently crashes |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1386 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1386 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KDED Write Daemon not working |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1452 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1452 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Panel: Can't change background color |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1114 from NEW to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1114 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, kcontrol -> Configure TDE Panel -> Panel Background - Preview Not Updated |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1385 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1385 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, kicker-trinity missing dependency upon kcontrol-trinity |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1385 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1385 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, kicker-trinity missing dependency upon kcontrol-trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1734 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1734 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, KControl: Missing icons |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1410 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1410 major, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED INVALID, File selection dialog returns no file |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1727 from SRUONLY to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1727 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdebase-3.5.13.2 FTBFS: cannot find -ldbus-tqt-1 |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 804 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=804 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, Build issue: gwenview: unknown icon type |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1735 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1735 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, [Regression] Basket crash after create new basket |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 804 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=804 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: gwenview: unknown icon type |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1736 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1736 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: kvkbd: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1501 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1501 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdenetwork: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 805 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=805 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdeutils: unknown icon type |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 846 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=846 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kword can't open CookBook.odt |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1737 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1737 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Remove code sources of KDE_IS_VERSION |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1738 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1738 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Basket: creates a kmail rather than creating a normal backtrace |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1738 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1738 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Basket: creates a kmail rather than creating a normal backtrace |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1735 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1735 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL, [Regression] Basket crash after create new basket |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1738 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1738 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Basket: creates a kmail rather than creating a normal backtrace |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1735 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1735 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Basket crash after create new basket |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1739 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1739 blocker, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED INVALID, fireflies FTBFS in Debian Jessie |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1741 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1741 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdelibs R14 FTBFS with Slackware 12.2 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1742 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1742 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, NumLock is not immediately enabled |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1743 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1743 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kate MRU is not correctly maintained if any Kate plugin is enabled |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1680 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1680 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED, [Regression] Kate does not add newly created documents to the MRU list |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1744 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1744 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kate "save all" doesn't save new documents |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1745 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1745 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Running vncserver from TightVNC causes Trinity to crash |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1676 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1676 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, [Regression] Alt+H does not work anywhere |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1741 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1741 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, tdelibs R14 FTBFS with Slackware 12.2/13.0 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1233 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1233 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED, /etc/trinity directory not present after upgrade to R14 |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1733 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1733 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, [Regression] Launcher menu (T-Menu) takes a long time to appear the first time using Alt+F1 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1746 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1746 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, K3B Burn CD Image default dialog is too small |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1747 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1747 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Focus does not always function correctly |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1748 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1748 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kdict applet crashes with no usable backtrace |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1745 from NEW to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1745 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, Running vncserver from TightVNC causes Trinity to crash |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1667 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1667 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED, Progress bar at the logout time |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 807 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=807 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdeaddons: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1736 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1736 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kvkbd: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1749 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1749 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, krename warnings |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 935 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=935 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: krename: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 947 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=947 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kbarcode: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 934 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=934 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: krusader: unknown icon type |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 970 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=970 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: kvpnc: unknown icon prefix |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1708 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1708 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEW, Trinity cannot mount USB keys without pmount utility |
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| CountryfiedLinux | Hey y'all. |
| CountryfiedLinux | I just saw that Sparky has an RC out with Trinity :) |
| CountryfiedLinux | Is trinity under current active development? |
| CountryfiedLinux | I know the Gnome 2 fork Mate is getting a lot of attention these days. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1730 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1730 blocker, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, libept-trinity doesn't build any more in Debian/Jessie |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1676 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1676 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Alt+H does not work anywhere |
| SlavekB | CountryfiedLinux: Yes, development is active. :) |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, there are still several things that hinder the release of a new major version. |
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| CountryfiedLinux | Oh ok SlavekB thanks |
| CountryfiedLinux | SlavekB, Is there a web page of panel applets? |
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| SlavekB | I do not know about such a page. |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 719 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=719 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: Koffice: unknown icon types |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 937 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=937 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tderadio: unknown icon type |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1750 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1750 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, audiocd tdeioslave crashes |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1751 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1751 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Trinity might not run properly without consolekit ck-launch-session |
| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1566 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1566 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Several TDENetworkManager problems |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1666 from NEEDINFO to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1666 critical, P2, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE R14 does not let me mount the other partitions on my hard disk drive |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1667 from REOPENED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1667 critical, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, Progress bar covers dynamic override buttons in logout dialog |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1680 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1680 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, [Regression] Kate does not add newly created documents to the MRU list |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1752 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1752 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Add button to clear Kate MRU |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1667 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1667 critical, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Progress bar covers dynamic override buttons in logout dialog |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1666 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1666 critical, P2, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, TDE R14 does not let me mount the other partitions on my hard disk drive |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1666 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1666 critical, P2, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO, TDE R14 does not let me mount the other partitions on my hard disk drive |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1666 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1680 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1680 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Kate does not add newly created documents to the MRU list |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1753 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1753 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Can't mount a floppy disk |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1744 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1744 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, Kate "save all" doesn't save newly created *untouched* empty documents |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1754 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1754 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Sort file alphabetically in Kate MRU |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1743 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1743 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED, Kate MRU is not correctly maintained if any Kate plugin is enabled |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1743 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1743 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, Kate MRU is not correctly maintained if any Kate plugin is enabled |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1755 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1755 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Kate: replace tabbarextension plugin with proper tab bar widget |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1756 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1756 blocker, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, NEW, libapt-front FTBFS in Debian/Jessie |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1756 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1757 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1757 blocker, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, NEW, tqtinterface FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1757 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1758 filed by nbercher@yahoo.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1758 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Amarok (x86) fails scanning files whose inode value exceeds "uint32 max value" (XFS/inode64). |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1757 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1757 blocker, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, tqtinterface FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1501 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1501 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED, Build issue: tdenetwork: unknown icon type |
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| TDEftw | Hello, quick question: on tde 3.5.13.2, is it possible to enable right click dragging of files/folders? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1759 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1759 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, R14 FTBFS with cmake 2.8.12 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1731 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1731 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: python-tqt FTBFS using SIP >= 4.15 |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1151 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1151 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kmymoney installs QT3 plugins in wrong directory |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1233 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1233 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, /etc/trinity directory not present after upgrade to R14 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1760 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1760 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, adept FTBFS in Debian/Jessie |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1760 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1760 from PATCHAVAIL to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1760 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, adept FTBFS in Debian/Jessie |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1761 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1761 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, tdevelop FTBFS with recent (t)qassistantclient patches |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 1762 filed by darrella@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1762 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW, Build issue: k3b FTBFS on HAL systems |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1761 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1761 blocker, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL, Build issue: tdevelop FTBFS with recent (t)qassistantclient patches |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1733 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1733 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED, [Regression] Launcher menu (T-Menu) takes a long time to appear the first time using Alt+F1 |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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| K`zan | Just FYI folks: |
| K`zan | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Translation-en Something wicked happened resolving 'trinity.motivewellbeing.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) |
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| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: no quickbuild humm |
| MutantTurkey | distributing the load to everyone who works on trinity could be more viable |
| MutantTurkey | for example i work a university where there is no power bill |
| MutantTurkey | it's just part of the general building fund |
| MutantTurkey | sure we pay into it, but one extra rack in the already huge office space won't change it at all |
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| SlavekB | Given that on my private builder I have all supported Debian and Ubuntu versions, I intend automate the building so that I could be able then publish binary packages. |
| SlavekB | however, but then I'll have to figure out how to publish packages. I myself do not have enough space. |
| MutantTurkey | we should drop support for old ubuntu |
| MutantTurkey | and only supprot LTS |
| MutantTurkey | i think that make sense |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: is OBS enough? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: The issue with |
| Xu_R | OBS is it doesn't integrate with git. |
| MutantTurkey | D: |
| MutantTurkey | WTF |
| Xu_R | But I don't know how much of an issue that is to you guys if you want to have a nightly cron script to just upload new files and check them in. |
| Xu_R | also, for such a large project like that, a talk with the OBS admins would probably be a good idea first... since they need to manage resources. |
| MutantTurkey | how do they get money to run? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey: OBS is sponsored by Novell & suse, as well as other suse sponsors |
| MutantTurkey | ah |
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| msb | Ironically, Suse is the one distro that doesn't need Trinity, since they still provide KDE3. |
| msb | Although TDE is better in some ways. |
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| Trinityfan | hi |
| Trinityfan | TDE r14 on ubuntu thrusty tahr? |
| Trinityfan | is it possible? |
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| MutantTurkey | Trinityfan: howdy |
| MutantTurkey | thrusty tar? LOL I didn't even know the new one is out... |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: what's up with cutting edge ubuntu? |
| MutantTurkey | Trinityfan: I have great luck usin ubuntu |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::13226 |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: that's great |
| Trinityfan | Thanks Slavek |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: there is no way there will be that money raised, even a kickstarter |
| MutantTurkey | I do not think there is enough interest |
| MutantTurkey | supposedly Tim claims there are several large insatllations of older ubuntu distros using trinity |
| MutantTurkey | if that is the case. They either pay up (donate) to the project to keep support for that, or drop it |
| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: It is a pity that we do not have any statistics of users. |
| MutantTurkey | SlavekB: why not? |
| MutantTurkey | we run our own servers, so tim should be able to give ito ut |
| MutantTurkey | did you see my arch stats/ |
| MutantTurkey | ? |
| MutantTurkey | http://home.ceux.org/trinity/ |
| SlavekB | Users can install the mirrors. |
| MutantTurkey | nobody does that. |
| MutantTurkey | i don't think |
| MutantTurkey | people are lazy |
| MutantTurkey | maybe for big installations |
| MutantTurkey | but _any_ stats would be better than none |
| SlavekB | Yes, you're right. |
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| SlavekB | MutantTurkey: Otherwise, I agree with you that the kickstarter is probably not suitable for us. |
| MutantTurkey | yeah |
| MutantTurkey | some companies using it would be a good help though |
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| Trinityfan | hi 'v'ribody |
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| Trinityfan | i 'm an italian TDE user and fan |
| Trinityfan | i'm looking for Michele.... |
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| K`zan | Just FYI folks, couple of these: |
| K`zan | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Index No Hash entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net_trinity_trinity-v3.5.13_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_i18n_Index |
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| weracri | How can I disable resizing and moving maximized windows feature? |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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| Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| Trinityfan | how to install trinity desktop on ubuntu trusty thar 14.04? |
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| SlavekB | Trinityfan: Packages coming soon in the nightly-builds and also in the preliminary stable-builds for R14. |
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| Trinityfan | Thanks Slavek.... |
| Trinityfan | R13 is possible? |
| SlavekB | R13 is currently not planned for Saucy and Trusty. |
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| Borg^Queen | I just tested the latest bleeding edge kde4. I canNOT believe they think it's progress. |
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| Xu_R | Borg^Queen: KDE4 is still too slow for me to use, visual effects wise. It's progress, but I really want to live without all the glossiness that the application demands |
| Borg^Queen | I don't see the progress |
| Borg^Queen | and I turned off all the fancy gui stuff |
| Borg^Queen | It's laid out so poorly, it's counter intuitive. |
| Borg^Queen | well, I must go, need to be up at 4 am. |
| Borg^Queen | GN to all |
| Borg^Queen | OH the other reason I popped in, tried tde is just now. Well done. |
| Borg^Queen | gn |
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| dotriver | Hi |
| dotriver | I search some informations about kicker process |
| dotriver | can you explain me why the ppid of kicker is 1 ? |
| Space_Man | hi dotriver, I can't sorry |
| Space_Man | wait for SlavekB to rejoin |
| dotriver | i explain my problem |
| Space_Man | he is a trinity developer |
| dotriver | i use freenx |
| dotriver | so i launch startkde to have a trinity desktop |
| Space_Man | or try the trinity dev mailing list |
| dotriver | but when the user shutdown his session, kicker is not stop |
| dotriver | i know SlavekB |
| dotriver | i wiil try dev mailing list |
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| z2 | Howdy folks. Is this thing on? |
| z2 | I have a technical question regarding trinity, was wondering if there was a forum for that? |
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| Space_Man | hi z2 join the email lists here http://www.trinitydesktop.org/mailinglist.php |
| Space_Man | you can ask your question general or developers, or even both! |
| z2 | thanks space man...I'll send out an email then |
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| aofarrell2 | Hi |
| aofarrell2 | I tried installing TDE but there is a package conflict |
| aofarrell2 | between kde-trinity and tde-trinity |
| aofarrell2 | I'm using the nightly-builds |
| SlavekB | aofarrell2: Nightly build are now in a little inconsistent state. |
| aofarrell2 | So what should I do then? |
| SlavekB | Hold on a minute, I just write an email about the availability of alternative APT source with 'R14 preliminary stable-builds'. |
| aofarrell2 | K |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5901 |
| aofarrell2 | I will give that a try |
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| hansvb | Hi, just installed trinity and a see no printers in the add printer dialog, any ideas? |
| SlavekB | hansvb: Instead of this use CUPS web interface - https://localhost:631/ |
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| aofarrell2 | SlavekB your alternative APT source worked. |
| aofarrell2 | Trinity devs - keep it up. I love trinityDE. I'm using it as the default DE for my in-development linux |
| aofarrell2 | distro |
| SlavekB | Great, I'm glad. |
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| kaiblocks | I'm trying to figure out how to develop in qt3 and I'm stuck trying to figure out how to get qmake for qt3 |
| kaiblocks | How do prospective TDE developers obtain qmake for qt3? |
| l0ner | tqt? |
| l0ner | honestly:dunno, i still need to look this up |
| kaiblocks | Is that what they use instead of qmake? |
| l0ner | instead of qt3 |
| l0ner | ther will be collisions if you trey to install qt3 and qt4 on the same system |
| l0ner | so qt3 has been renameb to tqt3 |
| kaiblocks | I didn't realize that |
| l0ner | and all functions have been moved from qtFuncton naming pattern to tqtFunction |
| l0ner | well, it's not like they annouce it clearly... |
| l0ner | distro? |
| kaiblocks | I'm using opensuse here but I use a multitude of different distros on all my computers |
| kaiblocks | That bit of info was helpful: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/TQtForQt4 |
| l0ner | can't help you there unfortunately |
| l0ner | maybe you are better asking it on the mailing list |
| kaiblocks | what distro would you be most helpful on? |
| kaiblocks | I think I will |
| l0ner | ubuntu? debian |
| l0ner | whatever the dev team is using |
| l0ner | the last time i checked the most supported one was ubuntu |
| kaiblocks | I have debian, it's just on another partition on this computer. I need to fix my graphics card driver so I can start using it again. I like debian because it's high maintenance but highly customizable. But I still have a lot to learn to do stuff like kernal patches. |
| kaiblocks | I like the community based development environment in the debian community |
| l0ner | gentoo for me |
| l0ner | you won't get the same customizability anywhere else |
| kaiblocks | that's right |
| kaiblocks | except for building your own distro from source |
| l0ner | well, gentoo IS building from source |
| l0ner | damn, you can replace even init if you have will to do so |
| l0ner | it provides automated and simplified version to do that |
| kaiblocks | that's neat |
| l0ner | there is a con to this tho |
| l0ner | everything is compiled |
| l0ner | so prepare for hours of compiling time |
| l0ner | like, night for x + xfce |
| l0ner | i guess on my core 2 due i took, like, 12 hours? |
| l0ner | damn, damn I'm updating my X-less gentoo on a VM, it has 86 packets to update, I'm on 33rd and it has been nearly 5 hours |
| kaiblocks | wow, yeah |
| kaiblocks | it's pretty mind boggling how all the pieces come together for something so huge. |
| l0ner | and hope it won't update gcc, this takes forever |
| l0ner | yup |
| l0ner | but the good thing is: i don't have stuff on my pc that I don't need |
| kaiblocks | I found this with some sample programs as a helpful guide |
| kaiblocks | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/SamplePrograms |
| l0ner | example: i don't use CUPS, so why I'd need it on my system. Ubuntu: gtk/qt/something was compiled with support ofr it, so you need it. Gentoo: cool, you don't need it? set a use flag and i won't pull it. |
| l0ner | cool |
| kaiblocks | that's what I like too. Although with a distro I have the advantage of a team which preassembles source in to a tarball that I can then install, reducing the time it takes to get stuff done. |
| l0ner | one sample |
| l0ner | ugh, talk about hte devil |
| l0ner | gcc update :/ |
| l0ner | now i won't be able to halt my system for like, 12 hours... |
| l0ner | kaiblocks: arch |
| l0ner | gentoo has mechanism for binary packages... but no one provides them |
| kaiblocks | yeah |
| kaiblocks | I want to create my own distro and experiment with stuff like wayland and mir. |
| l0ner | lol |
| l0ner | I'm trying to get wayland on gentoo right now |
| l0ner | i compiled it, but weston does not start |
| l0ner | but i guess problem lies within mesa |
| l0ner | it complains about lib from mesa... |
| l0ner | I heard arch is nice for experimentation with wayland |
| kaiblocks | you mean archlinux? |
| l0ner | and forget about mir, knowing ubuntu devs, they won't care about ppl trying to get it up on another distros |
| l0ner | yup |
| kaiblocks | ok I'll look at wayland on arch |
| kaiblocks | is Weston a part of the wayland project? |
| l0ner | yup |
| kaiblocks | ok cool |
| l0ner | it's the example compositor |
| l0ner | they provide |
| kaiblocks | nce |
| kaiblocks | I have a box which I need to install linux on so maybe I'll do arch with wayland |
| l0ner | good luck |
| l0ner | try gentoo too: that way you'll be able to try getting it X-less |
| l0ner | pure wayland |
| kaiblocks | that's how I learn this stuff, by screwing around on incredibly difficult projects |
| l0ner | same for me |
| kaiblocks | which is better for wayland? Gentoo or arch? |
| l0ner | for starters: try arch |
| kaiblocks | ok |
| l0ner | they have it precompiled, maybe works |
| l0ner | then when you get confortable move to gentoo and try it x-less |
| l0ner | since arch wayland still pulls xorg... for support |
| kaiblocks | good deal |
| l0ner | gentoo is fun... when you have time |
| kaiblocks | well, I need to run to the gym before it gets too late. Thanks for your tips. I'll catch ya later |
| l0ner | And I'll go to sleep I guess xD |
| l0ner | cya |
| l0ner | 2am... night still young tho i guess xD |
| kaiblocks | ah, yeah, good idea. It's only 9pm here |
| kaiblocks | later |
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| K`zan | Hi folks, got a problem I think?!?!? is TDE related, stuff wanting GTK3 is barfing being not happy with GTK2 stuff and unless I miss my guess, TDE is GTK2 related? TMIA! |
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| jmilot | Hi |
| jmilot | I search some informations about Ksysguard |
| jmilot | i would like to block processes shown |
| jmilot | only personnal processes |
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| jmilot | Hi Slavek |
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| jmilot | Could you help with ksysguard ? |
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| Hymie | hey all -- I've just setup trinity with wheezy, and I just wanted to use kicker with sawfish -- if I log in via kdm, everything seems fine.. I get full kwin+kicker, all menus and such in kicker are fine, etc |
| Hymie | if I log in via xdm, and start kicker via .xsession, it's fine for a while, but then eventually all the menus (debian installed packages) disappear from the K button, and for example, if I try to configure kicker via right click -> configure panel, I get a box with "empty page" instead of kicker settings |
| Hymie | right any know bells? |
| Hymie | er, ring |
| SlavekB | Scripts startkde set variables XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS. If you do not you use it, you have to set them yourself. |
| SlavekB | Script starkde also sets the PATH. |
| SlavekB | In short, look at the startkde script :) |
| SlavekB | By the way, if you only replace the window manager kwin for sawfish, just set the variable KDEWM and startkde script starts the selected window manager. |
| Hymie | thanks man |
| Hymie | I will look at these things, and rejoyce in your info of awesomeness |
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| dotriver | Hi all |
| dotriver | SlavekB, i can disturb you ? |
| dotriver | i use tde with FreeNX |
| dotriver | but when i shutdown the session, i have some processes not stop like : kicker and kdesktop_lock |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately I do not use FreeNX, so I do not know the difference between FreeNX and X-server environment. |
| SlavekB | Are there any useful informations listed in .xsession-errors? |
| dotriver | i will see |
| dotriver | http://pastebin.com/CkwsGKXs |
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| dotriver_ | i haven't see useful informations |
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| SlavekB | Please send a file in the "after logout" state. |
| dotriver | for now, the file is empty |
| dotriver | i have this for example : |
| dotriver | lpiquart 7805 0.0 0.3 143600 15016 ? S avril04 0:00 /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop_lock --internal 7804 |
| dotriver | lpiquart 9738 0.0 0.3 143700 12384 ? S avril02 0:00 /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop_lock --internal 9737 |
| dotriver | ps aux|grep 7804 |
| dotriver | root 5831 0.0 0.0 8088 844 pts/0 R+ 15:04 0:00 grep 7804 |
| dotriver | lpiquart 7805 0.0 0.3 143600 15016 ? S avril04 0:00 /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop_lock --internal 7804 |
| dotriver | ps aux|grep 9737 |
| dotriver | root 5836 0.0 0.0 8088 840 pts/0 R+ 15:04 0:00 grep 9737 |
| dotriver | lpiquart 9738 0.0 0.3 143700 12384 ? S avril02 0:00 /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop_lock --internal 9737 |
| dotriver | i have some kdesktop_lock but no parent process |
| dotriver | how i can prevent this ? |
| dotriver | which informations do you need ? |
| SlavekB | Problem with kdesktop_lock I also occasionally see on the classic x-server environment. |
| dotriver | the problem is that servers are not reboot every day so i can have sometimes 10-15 kdesktop_lock and kicker launched |
| dotriver | SlavekB, i can upgrade tde r13 to r14 whitout problem or we can see some bugs ? |
| SlavekB | On one of my work machines I use R14 (nightly, respectively my alternative apt source) and it works well. |
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| Hymie | hey.. just wondering.... when I was using another branch of kde 3.5 or what not, konsole would highlight the text of a tab in red, if there was any activity on that tab... |
| Hymie | I can't find it in the config for trinity konsole, I'm wondering if I'm just missing something, or if it's not in this branch.. any ideas? |
| SlavekB | dotriver: bugs to solve for upcoming R14 http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/showdependencytree.cgi?id=2014&hide_resolved=1 |
| SlavekB | Hymie: Watched activity / inactivity in Konsole is indicated by an icon. |
| Hymie | SlavekB: yeah, I know.. but, I've used a konsole before that highlighted red any tab that had changed text |
| Hymie | SlavekB: it was handy, without being obtrusive like a popup |
| Hymie | SlavekB: unless... am I missing what you mean? |
| Hymie | SlavekB: with this version of konsole, I didn't tell it to monitor for activity, it always did that |
| Hymie | SlavekB: monitor for activity produced a different result, like a text hover event or what not |
| Hymie | SlavekB: basically, the text of the tab would turn red |
| Hymie | heh |
| Hymie | I'll never find it on google images, beucase google sucks so much, and always changes what you search for |
| Hymie | looking for konsole always results in consle being searched for |
| SlavekB | I understand what you mean - Kopete does the same in chat window with tabs. |
| Hymie | ah |
| Hymie | yes |
| Hymie | rotfl |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, I do not know that such an option was in the Konsole. |
| Hymie | was looking for an example, and this came up in images |
| Hymie | http://i.imgur.com/BU9jyUZ.png |
| SlavekB | :) |
| Hymie | well, I did have that option for .. 4+ years until I moved to wheezy and went with this branch... |
| Hymie | before, I used another kde branch, before trinity existed |
| Hymie | (I think before, but anyhow.. some guy.. |
| Hymie | hmm |
| Hymie | I think it was for mint actually |
| Hymie | maybe it was a mint fluff mod |
| SlavekB | If you can find the appropriate patch, I can incorporate it :) |
| Hymie | hmm |
| Hymie | I will hunt!! |
| Hymie | it was very handy |
| Hymie | I miss it like that midget hooker I used to... uh, maybe I've said too much |
| dotriver | SlavekB : for kdesktop_lock and kicker, is it link to kwrapper ? |
| * Hymie will bbl with a patch maybe perhaps possibly! | |
| SlavekB | dotriver: No, both are regular binaries. |
| dotriver | yes but in startkde we can see : $KDEDIR/bin/kwrapper kdesktop_lock --forcelock & |
| dotriver | can we launch only : kdesktop_lock --forcelock |
| dotriver | ? |
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| acidolattico | Hi all |
| acidolattico | what is the easy way to install TDE on Debian netinstall? |
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| Space_Man | how to install debian testing (jessie) and tde using a usb stick? |
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| celeron55 | this is a surprisingly small channel |
| celeron55 | i just learned about this project and i thought to drop by and say that trinity-amarok is glorious; it beats clementine in my usage even today |
| celeron55 | (and just dwarfs absolutely everything else) |
| celeron55 | it's extremely sad that KDE dropped this gem to favor the absolute horribleness that they replaced it with |
| celeron55 | it's also so good that i don't care if i have to run dcopserver and all the other kde3 processes on my system and install ruby and yauap and have a weird $PATH 8) |
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| jmilot | hi i search some informations about twin$ |
| jmilot | it seems effects doesn't work on Debian |
| SlavekB | effects? |
| jmilot | yes |
| jmilot | like cube 3D |
| jmilot | i search a way to make my desktop more modern |
| jmilot | how i can configure effects on the desktop |
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| orcwog | anyone able to install Nightly onto a fresh ubuntu trusty install? |
| orcwog | packages are missing for me, like tde-trinity, or if I try from kubuntu-desktop-trinity, quite a few packages are unavailable |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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| acidolattico | hi all |
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| acidolattico | hi all |
| acidolattico | is there an easy way to install tde on ubuntu thrusy? |
| Space_Man | you can use the nightly builds https://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/NightlyBuilds and change oneiric with trusty |
| Space_Man | note the nightly builds could have bugs, the server is also very slow |
| Space_Man | sometimes after updating, you may see strange icons on the desktop - just log out and log in again to clear them |
| SlavekB | There is another option: |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5901 |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: are your binaries "the same" as tim's? |
| SlavekB | These are the same sources but compiled on my builder. |
| Space_Man | acidolattico: you have a choice of 2 places for tde for ubuntu trusty |
| acidolattico | thanks 'vribody |
| acidolattico | maybe install kde4 with kde3 theme is a faster solution.You are too slow and users can't wait your bugfixing. |
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| Vasistha | for some reason I don't remember, I set up this computer to use trinity-nightly-builds repositories. Having some trouble, and wanting to just use a stable version. Would it be better to downgrade to 3.5.13-2 or to use a pre-RC1 version-- and if the latter, which repo should I use (debian wheezy)? |
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| marc__ | Hey there |
| marc__ | I have a question regarding trinity and flash problems. Does anyone of you possibly do know something about it? |
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| acidolattico | hi all |
| acidolattico | i need instruction to install TDE on ubuntu trusty |
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| -morgan.freenode.net- [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp | |
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| acidolattico | hi all |
| acidolattico | i need instruction for TDE on ubuntu trusty |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
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| BQ-AFK | gn people |
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| msb | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Plasma-Next-Is-Preparing-to-Replace-KDE-First-Beta-Now-Available-for-Download-442096.shtml |
| msb | I know this is a weird place to ask, but since the KDE4 developers have "improved" KDE4 to the degree that many people reject it for Trinity and KDE3, what do you (anyone here) think of the "Plasma Next" "improvements" in the article linked above? |
| msb | Actually, I don't think this is a weird place to ask. I don't think I'd get a straight answer in any KDE4 forum. |
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| SlavekB | d |
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| kde | is trinity still alive? is it still actively in development? |
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| Guest71705 | the last version was released nearly one year ago |
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| Space_Man | Guest71705 / kde: the next version will be out 'when it is ready' :P |
| Space_Man | which could be soon |
| Guest71705 | sounds good :) |
| Guest71705 | just good to know the project didnt stop |
| Space_Man | they are in a feature freeze and fixing bugs... |
| Space_Man | but everything takes time |
| Guest71705 | cool thanks |
| Guest71705 | Space_Man, do you have an idea why mate seems to be more successful? |
| Space_Man | a lot more people use gnome vs kde, so I assume there are more people available to help mate |
| Guest71705 | yes, and they also have the support from Linux Mint |
| Guest71705 | is there a site with the changelog of the new upcoming version, Space_Man ? |
| Guest71705 | sorry, got to go now. speak to you soon. good night |
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| pestr | hello |
| pestr | howto install trinity into debian jessie? |
| SlavekB | pestr: You must use the development version. |
| pestr | SlavekB: ok |
| SlavekB | I'm afraid that nightly-builds for jessie are currently inconsistent. However, the alternative 'preliminary stable-builds' are ok. |
| pestr | https://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/DebianBinaryInstallation |
| SlavekB | For 'preliminary stable-builds' see: |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5901 |
| pestr | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb *distribution-name* deps-r14 main-r14 |
| pestr | *distribution-name* = jessie? |
| SlavekB | Yes |
| pestr | thanks |
| pestr | aptitude install kde-trinity? |
| SlavekB | For 'minimal' instalation you can use: |
| SlavekB | aptitude install xserver-xorg tdm-trinity ksmserver-trinity |
| pestr | ok |
| pestr | thanks |
| SlavekB | pestr: ještě by se mohlo hodit aptitude install tde-i18n-sk-trinity |
| pestr | dakujem |
| pestr | :) |
| pestr | uz instalujem |
| pestr | idem sa prihlasit, do trinity :) |
| pestr | bude off |
| pestr | budem off |
| pestr | :) |
| SlavekB | Ok :) |
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| pestr | SlavekB: som v Trinity |
| pestr | :) |
| pestr | to je super |
| SlavekB | Skvěle :) |
| pestr | mam trosku ale rozhodene pismo |
| pestr | zlate odladene prostredie |
| pestr | :) |
| pestr | ide super rychlo :) |
| SlavekB | ...a umožňuje spoustu věcí nastavovat, ne jako "moderní" prostředí :) |
| pestr | ja som na nom robil ale to je uz davno |
| pestr | kedze mam starsi pocitac a debian som preklapal na nove verzie |
| pestr | stare dobre KDE 3.5 sa preklopilo na KDE 4 |
| SlavekB | Já na KDE4 nikdy nepřešel. |
| pestr | dakujem, ze sa to da este dostat do noveho jessie debian |
| SlavekB | Nejdříve jsem se dlouho těšil, až bude finální. Ale to, co poté vydali, mně dostatečně odradilo. |
| SlavekB | Několikrát jsem si KDE4 oťukával, ale nikdy mně nepřesvědčilo, že enormně zvýšené nároky na hardware mi za to něco přináší. |
| SlavekB | Proto jsem moc rád, že exisutje Trinity :) |
| pestr | :) |
| pestr | musim este restart |
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| pestr | SlavekB: Kolko ludi pracuje na vyvoji Trinity? |
| SlavekB | Aktivní vývojáři jsou zhruba 3.5 člověka. |
| pestr | hmm, to nie je vela |
| SlavekB | Proto je každá pomoc vítána. |
| SlavekB | ...a i proto chystaná R14 stále ještě není označena za finální. |
| pestr | hmm |
| pestr | asi vsetci maju KDE4 |
| pestr | KDE 3 bolo dobre odladene |
| SlavekB | To rozhodně bylo. |
| SlavekB | ...a naštěstí jsou tu takoví blázni, kteří se snaží v těchto šlépějích pokračovat :) |
| pestr | :) |
| SlavekB | Musím se prozatím rozloučit... vrátím se až za několik hodin. |
| pestr | ok |
| pestr | vdaka za rady |
| SlavekB | Za málo. :) |
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| OxFEEDBACC | high |
| OxFEEDBACC | i'm the guy with the "nothing provides jasper" problem... |
| OxFEEDBACC | tried #trinity already, yesterday... |
| SlavekB | Jagged, François manages Trinity RPM packages. He knows the most about Trinity on all RPM based distributions. |
| OxFEEDBACC | yeah, i read his message on the list already, SlavekB ... does he also show up here on irc? |
| SlavekB | No, François does not appear here. |
| OxFEEDBACC | k... if you don't mind, i'll stay here anyway ;-) |
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| OxFEEDBACC | hummm something's very wrong here... i can't even switch consoles :-( |
| OxFEEDBACC | anyway, whatever i chose for the session in TDE's menu, i just get a screen with 1 xterm and nothing else... no windowmanager, no nothing... |
| OxFEEDBACC | does that sound familiar? |
| SlavekB | Try to look in ~ /.xsession_errors |
| OxFEEDBACC | k |
| OxFEEDBACC | there is only one, which is apparently from icewm... |
| OxFEEDBACC | it's funny... i go "init 3", (different from older versions of suse) i don't get any response but the next prompt; so i switch to the respective console to see if there's anything... and once there, i can't switch to anything else... |
| OxFEEDBACC | will check that with xdm... |
| OxFEEDBACC | no, when it was xdm occupying that console, i can switch to it and then back to any other console after "init 3" |
| OxFEEDBACC | when trying tdm, with launching tde, the file is created, but empty... |
| OxFEEDBACC | k, this time the console froze even though xdm was there... |
| SlavekB | What is started? See listing: ps fax |
| OxFEEDBACC | quite some processes... anything special that i should look for? |
| OxFEEDBACC | /opt/trinity/bin/kdm |
| OxFEEDBACC | /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/ru |
| OxFEEDBACC | -:0 |
| OxFEEDBACC | xterm -ls -T Failsafe -n Failsafe -bg purple |
| OxFEEDBACC | that's the process tree from kdm.... just followed by zsh and `ps fax` |
| SlavekB | It is under kdm see what the script was run to start the session? |
| OxFEEDBACC | oh, there are 3 /opt/trinity/bin/tsak processes, too... |
| OxFEEDBACC | k, looking at the script |
| OxFEEDBACC | it's a binary though... is there a wrapping script? |
| OxFEEDBACC | anyway, i can start it manually and redirect stderr to a file... |
| SlavekB | Try to disable SAK - in /etc/trinity/kdm/kdmrc enable UseSAK=false. |
| OxFEEDBACC | nothing in kdm.stderr nor in kdm.stdout :-/ |
| OxFEEDBACC | k, trying to disable sak... what is about anyway? |
| SlavekB | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_attention_key |
| OxFEEDBACC | ah, okay... |
| OxFEEDBACC | the login screen looked different, the result is the same... |
| SlavekB | Running processes under kdm is same? |
| OxFEEDBACC | yep... except it's now on vt8 |
| OxFEEDBACC | kdmflush is probably not related to trinity? |
| OxFEEDBACC | there are five of them... |
| SlavekB | kdmflush is kernel process :) |
| OxFEEDBACC | stuff like this is why i did not do any major update to my system in the last 4 years... |
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| OxFEEDBACC | rpm -qa \*kde\* shows libkde4 and libkdecore4...... should i try do deinstall them? well, that'd be a question for Francois... |
| OxFEEDBACC | still not.... |
| OxFEEDBACC | where is kdm supposed to write its messages to? |
| OxFEEDBACC | /var/log/kdm.log... k |
| OxFEEDBACC | >100MB :-/ |
| OxFEEDBACC | wtf... "kdm_config [935] info: Cannot open master configuration file /opt/trinity/share/config/kdm/kdmdistrc |
| OxFEEDBACC | " |
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| leszek | hi |
| leszek | anyone tested the debian wheezy repositories for tde ? Seems like its broken. At least it gives me lots of errors of missing packages when I try to install anything from it |
| leszek | also is someone still working on the project or is it abandoned ? Somehow the git log gives me headaches I don't see any real contributions there |
| SlavekB | repository for stable (3.5.13.2) or nightly? |
| SlavekB | ...for nightly is sometimes inconsistent. |
| leszek | SlavekB: stable |
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| darwin | is there any release that has Slack yet? |
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| darwin | is there any release that has Slack yet? |
| SlavekB | darwin: I know that the Slackware packages for the Trinity development version are prepared by Darrell Anderson, but I do not know if they are available. |
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| darwin | ok |
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| bf | Good morning... |
| bf | Is it ok to ask a question here, or should i use the mailing list? |
| bf | Oups... |
| bf | Sorry...my nick should have been 'marc' .. instead of 'bf' ... |
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| bf | Anyhow...I have a strange boot-up behavior of my trinity installtion and do not have a clue where it might came from... |
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| toastercup | Hey howdy! I am having issues installing Trinity on Arch... |
| toastercup | The mirror (trinity.ceux.org/r14/x86_64) does not appear to be working. Does anyone know any other addresses containing the repo I need? |
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| toastercup | hallo? o: |
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| toastercup | Does anyone know what the email address of the Mailing List (general) is? |
| toastercup | my emails are getting bounced from the one listed on the site :( |
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| Z_God | toastercup: sure |
| Z_God | trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net |
| tde-woot | quick question -- is ubuntu 14.04 lts (trusty tahr) on the roadmap for a relase? |
| tde-woot | subb'd to the mailing list but havent seen any news.. |
| tde-woot | tried the nightly branch but.. was.. unstable as expected :P |
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| arven | I have gotten very interested in the Trinity desktop after seeing that it has preserved most everything that made the KDE 3 series so easy to use and decent in terms of resource usage. |
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| alltog01 | hello. can trinity be installed on saucy/mint 16? |
| SlavekB | alltog01: you need development version - nightly-builds or preliminary-stable-builds |
| alltog01 | I found this link through a search deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb *distribution-name* deps-r14 main-r14 I'l try and see if it works |
| alltog01 | are there any plans to update trinity's widget style to a new theme? I loved trinity last time I used it but it looks a bit outdated |
| SlavekB | Note: gpg key was updated to key id A04BE668 |
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| K`zan | Hi folks! Just FYI: |
| K`zan | W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 43F1DC4F2B8638D0 QuickBuild Trinity Desktop Environment |
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| K`zan | Also, kmail crashes on exit, been doing that for a while, any updates to come for it? |
| K`zan | Well, kontact :-). |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::29 |
| SlavekB | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::6369 |
| K`zan | This preceeds it, in case it helps: |
| K`zan | Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net precise/main Translation-en_US |
| K`zan | Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net precise/main Translation-en |
| K`zan | Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net precise/main Translation-en_US |
| K`zan | Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net precise/main Translation-en |
| K`zan | Fetched 4,109 kB in 28s (143 kB/s) |
| K`zan | Reading package lists... Done |
| K`zan | W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 96C95152F5CFC95C |
| K`zan | Checking urls... |
| SlavekB | sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys F5CFC95C |
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| K`zan | vw@nimitz:~$ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net |
| K`zan | Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /tmp/tmp.AwYCtKild7 --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net |
| K`zan | gpg: Go ahead and type your message ... |
| K`zan | ?? |
| SlavekB | You forgot to copy&paste "--recv-keys F5CFC95C" |
| K`zan | Ah, ran all 5 through, all seems to be well now. THANKS!!!!!!!!! |
| SlavekB | you're welcome |
| K`zan | I'll get the message for kontact / kmail crashing tonight, it happens on a shutdown, so gotta be quick. |
| K`zan | Been just too beat lately :-(. |
| SlavekB | can you send report about crash to crash report database? |
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| K`zan | SlavekB: Could, where is it? |
| K`zan | BBIAB |
| SlavekB | To send a crash report is button in Dr.Konqui window. |
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| acidolattico | hi all |
| acidolattico | i want install trinity desktop 3.5.13xx on ubuntu 14.04lts.Is there a way? |
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| Space_Man2 | I have installed debian jessie and added tim's nightly repo to the sources, what should I install now? |
| Space_Man2 | I want to install trinity 3.5.14 (or whatever the latest version is) |
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| felamaslen | anybody know of any mirrors for Arch Linux? |
| SlavekB | felamaslen: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::6371 |
| SlavekB | In any case, packages for Arch have long been in poor condition. |
| felamaslen | hmm, that's interesting |
| felamaslen | could always just compile from source |
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| wulfgang-clan | hello there |
| wulfgang-clan | has anyone there had any luck getting tde to run on ubuntu trusty (14.04)? |
| wulfgang-clan | I'm trying it now, using the raring repository from tde but I can't install any kde applications |
| wulfgang-clan | (kde applications = tde applications) |
| SlavekB | wulfgang-clan: you need nightly-builds or preliminary-stable-builds for R14 |
| wulfgang-clan | SlavekB: I used the nightly-builds. now the install works. thanks!! |
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| wulfgang-clan_ | hi there |
| wulfgang-clan_ | I am on a lubuntu 14.04 desktop and I would like to install tde and lxde side-by-side |
| wulfgang-clan_ | however, there seems to be a dependency issue between foomatic-db and foomatic-db-compressed-ppds |
| wulfgang-clan_ | has anyone else run into that / found a good solution? |
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| zaki | hi |
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| K`zan | Hi Folks, thought I fixed this but: |
| K`zan | Has it changed again or do I have a problem?: |
| K`zan | W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 43F1DC4F2B8638D0 |
| K`zan | Thanks! |
| K`zan | Disregard, tried it again and it went through :-). |
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| Zero_Angel | SlavekB: you're one of the trinity devs right? |
| SlavekB | Zero_Angel: yes |
| Zero_Angel | do you know if proper multi-monitor support has yet been added for proprietary nvidia drivers? |
| Zero_Angel | I tried trinity a year ago and while it supported multimonitors it treated the monitors as one big screen (so centered dialog boxes between both screens, stretched maximized windows across both screens etc etc) |
| Zero_Angel | actually I had a big nostaligia-driven smile while using TDE for the first time (with compiz!). It was awesome. Unfortunately the monitor thing was a deal-breaker. :( |
| Zero_Angel | I hope you keep at it. And good luck. |
| SlavekB | Trinity has support for xinerama and xrandr. |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately I do not know if the binary nvidia drivers support RandR. |
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| Makeru | Is there a real need for the Ctrl+Alt+Delete for signon as default? |
| Makeru | Nevermind, was able to disable it. Is there any way to disable it on a computer that has no delete key? I'm thinking about writing a guide on how to get a KDE environment on a C720 Chromebook, now that the Chrubuntu script is broken, but without an external keyboard, I don't know how to get Trinity set up initially. |
| a-865 | how can I get a screenshot of the greeter? Things I've found for KDE that profess to explain are not working on openSUSE 13.1 |
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| SlavekB | Makeru: In /etc/trinity/kdm/kdmrc enable UseSAK and set to false. |
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| SlavekB | a-865: If you have available a second pc, you can connect from second pc using ssh, then use x11vnc to get access to X-console via vnc and for screenshot use remote login to vnc. |
| a-865 | SlavekB: I understand the concept, but have never tried any of those things. Got howto somewhere? |
| SlavekB | Useful information for x11vnc will appear here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x11vnc |
| a-865 | SlavekB: giving it a go... |
| a-865 | seems like there ought to be a simpler way not requiring network |
| a-865 | like provided running an OS installer |
| a-865 | SlavekB: thx for trying. x11vnc fails to start, complaining "No protocol specified", and that URL contains no string "protocol", leaving me clueless what to do. :-( |
| a-865 | error capture http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/vncfailure.txt |
| SlavekB | You have on a command line option "-auth ..."? |
| SlavekB | For example: |
| SlavekB | x11vnc -display :0 -noxdamage -auth /var/run/xauth/A\:0-* |
| a-865 | -auth part was omitted; now started... |
| a-865 | now the problem is figuring out how to start a vnc client. several *vnc* packages show installed, but only x11vnc server is showing in menu structure |
| SlavekB | You need some vnc klient - for example krcd. |
| SlavekB | krdc |
| a-865 | krdc starts, but doesn't allow the connect button, and scanning finds nothing |
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| a-865 | SlavekB: thx :-D http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/greeterMousetypeKDE413.png |
| SlavekB | with krdc you must add display number after hostname - for example: |
| SlavekB | big41:0 |
| a-865 | SlavekB: got it :-) |
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| Space_Man | http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~afedosov/qttut/ do you know what changes are needed to run this python qt3 example with trinity / tqt? I guess the import line needs to change |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: if or when you have some time, thanks |
| SlavekB | At the moment I have to go away, but the address of the tutorial I saved, so I can watch to it later. |
| Space_Man | thank you SlavekB |
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| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: ping |
| MutantTurkey | i had some experience recently with ctypes if you're intrested |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey, tbh I'm like blindly poking at ctypes figuring out why it's doing what it's doing |
| Xu_R | oh fuck. I figured out why. The previous testcase didn't cleanup properly |
| * Xu_R sighs | |
| MutantTurkey | but really, ctypes is fucke |
| Xu_R | yeah.. |
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| |newbie| | Hi |
| *** |newbie| is now known as fraterlinux | |
| fraterlinux | I added ppa in pclos |
| fraterlinux | but I am in error in TDM |
| fraterlinux | I can only start tde with xdm |
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| fraterlinux | Hi |
| Space_Man | hi fraterlinux |
| Space_Man | sorry I can't help you with your pclos problem |
| fraterlinux | I need help |
| Space_Man | <fraterlinux> I added ppa in pclos |
| fraterlinux | yes |
| fraterlinux | only XDM work |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: do you have any ideas? |
| fraterlinux | SiLM |
| fraterlinux | work too |
| Space_Man | fraterlinux: try the tde mailing list http://www.trinitydesktop.org/mailinglist.php |
| fraterlinux | as I replace kde4 for tde, I have no outher dm |
| fraterlinux | anyone here uses pclos? |
| fraterlinux | Space_Man: I'll write there then |
| SlavekB | fraterlinux: tdm package is installed? |
| fraterlinux | yes |
| SlavekB | tdm.log contains anything useful? |
| fraterlinux | SlavekB: TDM/kdm is running and lets me log in, but then I only get an xterm entitled "Failsafe" |
| fraterlinux | Where is located the log tdm? |
| SlavekB | /var/log/tdm.log ? |
| SlavekB | Or kdm.log |
| fraterlinux | I will go open |
| fraterlinux | SlavekB: http://pastebin.com/X6Gkz6kM |
| fraterlinux | See the end, what do you think? |
| SlavekB | Have you loaded kernel module uinput? |
| SlavekB | ...or you can disable SAK. |
| SlavekB | In /etc/trinity/kdm/kdmrc snable UseSAK option and set it to false. |
| fraterlinux | What is sak? |
| SlavekB | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_attention_key |
| fraterlinux | okey |
| fraterlinux | Not have SAK in my kdmrc |
| fraterlinux | Want to see my kdmrc? |
| fraterlinux | I found UseSAK |
| fraterlinux | SlavekB: I configured it. any more suggestions? |
| SlavekB | Enable UseSAK and set it to false. |
| fraterlinux | Okey |
| fraterlinux | I did. any more suggestions? |
| SlavekB | Try to restart kdm/tdm. |
| fraterlinux | ok |
| fraterlinux | I will go out, then come back to report what happened |
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| Guest7088 | Same error, I had to go back to xdm |
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| fraterlinux | The strange thing is that XDM loads normal but just TDM opens the xterm |
| SlavekB | Error with SAK is gone? |
| fraterlinux | [tsak] Unable to open /dev/uinput or /dev/misc/uinput (char device 10:223). |
| fraterlinux | SlavekB: tdm you use? |
| fraterlinux | as is his kdmrc? |
| fraterlinux | I will try to review the kdm.log and change something, then come back |
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| fraterlinux | TDM does not work at all. I'll use that GDM is also lightweight. |
| fraterlinux | For KInfoCenter what packages I need to install? |
| SlavekB | raterlinux: can you post current kdm.log? |
| fraterlinux | Yes |
| fraterlinux | http://pastebin.com/WD9pQSxJ |
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| MutantTurkey | has anyone seen / heard from david rankin in the last few weeks? |
| MutantTurkey | Xu_R: so are you still at blackboard btw? |
| Xu_R | MutantTurkey, nope, this summer I've been interning at DigitalOcean |
| MutantTurkey | wow that is awesome |
| MutantTurkey | i of course chose not to use DO in favor of Linode |
| Xu_R | Haha, there's definitely competition between the two. |
| MutantTurkey | is Digital Ocean the one where it's not a fixed price scheme? |
| Xu_R | Yeah |
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| fraterlinux | hi |
| fraterlinux | you use calibre with tde? I'm with error: |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| Trinityfan | is there an italian trinity user? |
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| Trinityfan | trinity desktop 3.5.13.2 possible on ubuntu 14.04? |
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| panzeroceania | What is the current status of the Trinity Desktop? |
| panzeroceania | do we need more money? more developers? is there currently active development or a github ? |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/ |
| SlavekB | Developers are always welcome. |
| panzeroceania | thank SlavekB |
| SlavekB | Equally welcome is the money to ensure the operation of essential services - web, build-farm... |
| SlavekB | Currently upcoming version R14 in the "nearest ready to release" state. |
| SlavekB | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=2014&hide_resolved=1 |
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| SlavekB | panzeroceania: you use Arch linux? |
| panzeroceania | SlavekB: yes how did you know? |
| SlavekB | I found this information in your profile on wine-apps web :) |
| SlavekB | You know how to create and maintain packages for Arch linux? |
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| panzeroceania | SlavekB: unfortunately I'm not currently very productive |
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| SlavekB | panzeroceania: Pity. It is a problem with packages for Arch - are poorly maintained in the long term. |
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| drankin | slavek - any more progress on a dbus/dcop implementation of user-session tracking for systemd without consolekit? |
| SlavekB | Sorry, unfortunately I'm in the last few weeks very busy by work responsibilities. |
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| drankin | Slavek, drop me a line when you are ready to move forward. As mentioned in the bug, I cannot make it work on Archlinux until this bug is fixed. |
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| jens_ | Good morning. I've installed Trinity on Debian Wheezy last night, but couldn't establish a wireless connection to my wireless network. I've tried several utilities and replaced NetworkManager with wicd, but it still refuses to connect. The network driver is installed and probed properly. What could be the problem? |
| sexyboy | it's hardly a trinity issue |
| SlavekB | problem would be a missing firmware for wireless card. |
| sexyboy | but, you could try using backports and updating your kernel and wireless firmware |
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| jens_ | The strange thing is, that it has always worked fine under Debian, regardless of DE |
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| sexyboy | it works |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
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| MutantTurkey | yes probably |
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| OxFEEDBACC | high ... under KDE3 i have alittle kicker applet named "Wireless Network Information", which resides in libkwireless.so |
| OxFEEDBACC | any idea where it is under trinity? |
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| K`zan | Hi Folks, just wondering if Trinity works with ubu 14.04 LTS??? |
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| K`zan | Hi Folks, just wondering if Trinity works with ubu 14.04 LTS??? |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| Trinityfan | is it possible install TDE 3.5.13.2 on ubuntu 14.04 trusty? |
| SlavekB | No, you need development version TDE R14. |
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| SlavekB | While this is a development version is currently very stable. |
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| Trinityfan | Qt parted works in TDE? |
| SlavekB | Qt parteed is Qt3 application? |
| Trinityfan | yes but not continued |
| Trinityfan | http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/ |
| SlavekB | QtParted 0.5 is based on Qt4.5 |
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| Trinityfan | old version is based on qt3 |
| SlavekB | latest is qtparted 0.6 from 2012-04-07 |
| SlavekB | qt3 version could be converted to use with TDE R14. |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately main site has currently outage, and thus can not enter a request to bugzilla. |
| Trinityfan | if you find a way to works it in TDE,i'll be glad |
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| Trinityfan | is there an italian TDE user? |
| SlavekB | Michele Calgaro (developer) is from Italy. However, he is not here on irc. |
| Trinityfan | i think we need more visibilty. |
| Trinityfan | a new restyled web site for example, |
| Trinityfan | official facebook or other social network page |
| SlavekB | Currently we finishing up with TDE R14.0.0. Along with this should be a new web site. |
| Trinityfan | an official community content od themes,style and artwork |
| Trinityfan | and of course an official forum |
| Trinityfan | Klaus Knopper support in Knoppix |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
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| Trinityfan | some gtk theme like plastik TDE? |
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| K`zan | Hi Folks, can someone please tell me if TDE will install under kubu 14.04LTS? KDE4 sucks so badly that it explains the great void in the universe :-/... |
| SlavekB | You need development version TDE R14. |
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| K`zan | SlavekB: OK, thanks. Didnt see that on the Trinity site, let me keep looking. |
| SlavekB | For R14 you have two options: |
| SlavekB | 1) official nightly-builds |
| SlavekB | 2) alternative preliminary-stable-builds |
| K`zan | Uh, pardon ignorance, but does the latter==: http://ftp.fau.de/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/ |
| K`zan | Didn't see those, so I installed kubu (and have regretted it) with the idea of doing what I have done for previous versions, add TDE on top. |
| K`zan | tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-08-21-2014-amd64.iso <<----That one, I think. |
| K`zan | Both ubu and kubu have just kept getting worse and worse. kubu hasn't gotten 1/10th the functionality of TDE and is a resource pig to boot :-(. |
| SlavekB | Oh, yeah, I forgot that actually exists iso with nightly-builds. |
| K`zan | tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-latest-amd64.iso <<--- Little slow today, LOOOOOOOONG week :-). |
| K`zan | Will that process updates or will I have to keep installing it? I suspect the former, but what will happen when it is formally released? |
| K`zan | Thanks for the help and again, pardon ignorance. |
| SlavekB | Apt sources in this iso will probably referring to the nightly-builds. |
| K`zan | Oy, I'm not sure I would want to keep going on nightly builds, I have yet to have a successful new version upgrade. |
| K`zan | Perhaps I should drop back to something Trinity has released. |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| Trinityfan | where is "kcmshell" command? |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| SlavekB | Trinityfan: on TDE R14 is tdecmshell |
| Trinityfan | thanks Slavek |
| Trinityfan | so kdebugdialog = tdedebugdialog? |
| SlavekB | yes (if I remember correctly) |
| Trinityfan | i think i'll make an italian trinity fan page :) |
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| SlavekB | By the way, facebook page exists, but it turned out the way I expected - there is no one who would care about it. |
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| Trinityfan | i think we need a real page full of community content,document and artwork. |
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| K`zan | Hi Folks, anyone have aany idea when TDE for ubu 14.04 might be released. KDE4, unbelievably, has gotten even more abysmal since I last tried it, gnome is no better :-(. |
| K`zan | Back in a bit, KDE4 seems to keep crashing the system here, going to see if I can live with mate for the time being. |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| Trinityfan | where is krita-trinity? |
| SlavekB | chalk-trinity |
| Trinityfan | thanks Slavek |
| Trinityfan | i want install icewm themes in twin.where is the correct path? |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| Trinityfan | could you suggest me a program for webcam? |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| sexyboy | hi |
| Trinityfan | could you suggest me a software for webcam? |
| sexyboy | what do you want to do with the webcam |
| sexyboy | because if you just want ot see the image then vlc will be sufficient |
| Trinityfan | something like cheesecam? |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
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| Trinityfan | hi Slavek |
| SlavekB | hi Trinityfan |
| Trinityfan | could you suggest me a software for webcam like cheese? |
| SlavekB | I do not know of such an application. For video I use kaffeine, but it can only capture digital video broadcast. |
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| Trinityfan | something like cheesecam? |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| Trinityfan | here is megapack with 255 colorscheme for Kde3 |
| Trinityfan | http://gnome-help.org/content/show.php/Mega+Pack+Color+Schemes?content=25974&PHPSESSID=cae |
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| Trinityfan | when we'll have a stable trinity r14? |
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| K`zan | Any idea when you folks will have a release for (k)ubu 14.04 (Trusty)? Thanks! |
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| K`zan | Any idea when you folks will have a release for (k)ubu 14.04 (Trusty)? Thanks! |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| Trinityfan | is there a way to convert and use this http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Domino+for+Kubuntu+x86+%28Dapper%29?content=54782 in TDE? |
| SlavekB | Trinityfan: Please, fill it as packaging request into TDE Bugzilla. |
| Trinityfan | link please |
| SlavekB | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/ |
| Trinityfan | Exegnulinux?is dead? |
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| SlavekB | I hope not. Maybe David just waiting to be R14 final. |
| Trinityfan | i like some old qt application ,not kde application.But they don't works today |
| Trinityfan | Do you Know kamefu? |
| SlavekB | Please add them as a packaging request in Bugzilla. Currently programmers concentrate to completion R14.0.0. But then will again start adding new applications and convert it to TQt. |
| SlavekB | I did not know Kamefu, interesting application. |
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| Trinityfan | Kamefu it's a little emulator of old game architecture,like mame... |
| Trinityfan | well,a grafical frontend.... |
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| K`zan | Any idea when you folks will have a release for (k)ubu 14.04 (Trusty)? Thanks! |
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| K`zan | Any idea when you folks will have a release for (k)ubu 14.04 (Trusty)? Thanks! |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| sexyboy | hey |
| Trinityfan | i've found a distro that still use kde 3.5 |
| Trinityfan | http://alinux.tv/linux-os/alinux-kde-screenshot.png |
| Trinityfan | http://alinux.tv/ |
| sexyboy | probably outdated |
| sexyboy | it's better to use debian stable with trinity repo |
| Trinityfan | 2013 |
| Trinityfan | not so much outdated |
| Trinityfan | i think we could use their artwork for trinity desktop |
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| K`zan | Any idea when you folks will have a release for (k)ubu 14.04 (Trusty)? Thanks! |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| sexyboy | hi |
| Trinityfan | i have problem with k9copy-trinity in Wheezy. |
| Trinityfan | Debian Wheezy |
| Trinityfan | impossible to install |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
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| K`zan | Any idea when you folks will have a release for (k)ubu 14.04 (Trusty)? Thanks! |
| SlavekB | K`zan: You can use development version R14. |
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| SlavekB | There are nightly-builds or preliminary-stable-builds. Currently almost identical. |
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| K`zan | SlavekB: Thanks, but the problem with that is that I will always be stuck with the development branch (as I understand it), I'd rather wait :-). |
| SlavekB | In the preliminary-stable-builds, I expect that after the final release R14, this apt source will continue with maintanance releases for R14 - as is now 3.5.13-sru. |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
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| Trinityfan | what a kind of tools you use for building iso image? |
| Space_Man | hi Trinityfan |
| Space_Man | 2 years ago I used some ubuntu's live cd tools |
| Space_Man | but I gave up |
| Space_Man | I didn't understand all the steps / details |
| Space_Man | there is an out of date ubuntu / trinity iso on http://www.trinitydesktop.org |
| Space_Man | I think SlavekB also has a ubuntu / trinity iso available |
| Trinityfan | do you know how to use icewm themes in trinity? |
| Space_Man | no idea :( |
| Space_Man | what are icewm themes?? |
| * Space_Man googles | |
| Trinityfan | in kde 3.5 was possible to use icewm as window decoration,like plastik,crystal |
| Trinityfan | and was possible configure icewm theme |
| Trinityfan | ok i've done myself |
| Trinityfan | installed tde-artwork-window-trinity and icewm themes works |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
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| Wizard | Hi. |
| Trinityfan | Hi Wizard |
| Trinityfan | are you a trinity desktop user or developer? |
| Wizard | No. However I used KDE 3 from 3.0 to 3.5.10 ;D |
| Wizard | I was just curious how is Trinity doing. |
| Trinityfan | KDE 3 was my favorite DE before KDE4 coming and i switched to gnome 2 when KDE 4 came out. |
| Wizard | Many did. |
| Wizard | However, linux desktop coders went crazy. |
| Wizard | KDE4 was almost usable and than devs introduced Akonadi :D |
| Trinityfan | Trinity Desktop is what i'm really searching in a Desktop Environment but i think they need more visibility and more support of community |
| Wizard | Hmm.. |
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| Ruusento | Trinityfan: you can disable akonadi+nepomuk on KDE4 |
| Ruusento | (and kill the dependencies due to those two, such as mysql) |
| Ruusento | but hey, Trinity is good ol' KDE3 with steroids |
| Ruusento | I feel quite some nostalgia in having TDE as my DE |
| Ruusento | miss the times where KDE3 was the defacto DE, no GNOME was comparable to that |
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| Trinityfan | Ruusento Kde4 with akonadi+nepomuk disabled miss something like konqueror(the best filemanager ever),amarok and kommander.De facto kde4-5 isn't what i'm searchin for... |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
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| dot_not | Hi. I was trying to add Trinity's Debian repository - according to the webpage - to my sources.list. However the connection is timing out. Is this a temporary problem or has the repository moved? |
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| SlavekB | dot_not: There is some problem on the primary server. You want stable or nightly-builds? |
| dot_not | SlavekB: Preferably Stable, but nightly would be okay too. But since this is a temporary problem I might simple wait.. any ETA on them being resolved? |
| dot_not | Anyway, gotta' run for now. Will just check later. Thanks for the hint. \o |
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| Trinityfan | Slavek's repo for trusty? |
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| mirda | hello, repository http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/ is not reachable |
| mirda | and web https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ had some timeouts afternoon |
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| SlavekB | mirda: Ahoj. As I watched for a few days, the line to master server is probably overloaded. |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
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| SlavekB | mirda: Ahoj. As I watched for a few days, the line to master server is probably overloaded. |
| mirda | ahoj, thank you for info |
| SlavekB | You install stable or development version? |
| mirda | i have stable version but i was talking with my friend about trinity and he wasn't able to look into repository |
| SlavekB | For the stable version can be used directly mirrors. |
| mirda | oki |
| SlavekB | But as I see now, the primary server is already available a lot better. |
| mirda | great |
| mirda | what caused overloaded line? too much normal requests or some attack? |
| SlavekB | This, unfortunately, I do not know. I do not have this information available. |
| SlavekB | In any case, the line to the primary server is normally low bandwidth. |
| SlavekB | For example, if you wanted to use nightly-builds, which are only on the primary server, it may be useful to instead use alternative preliminary-stable-builds that are available on better bandwidth. |
| mirda | oki, i rather use stable builds than nightly, i don't like everyday updates, i am doing updates only when i remember it and wants it:D |
| SlavekB | chápu :) |
| mirda | i am too tired, good night :) |
| SlavekB | good night |
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| Kaizakilla | hi |
| Kaizakilla | i'm looking for the 3.4 trinity fork for powerpc |
| Kaizakilla | i'm trying to use trinity 3.4 on a powerpc but i don't find one. |
| Kaizakilla | can you help me |
| SlavekB | Currently there are unfortunately only official builds amd64, i386, and armel armhf. I have unofficial build for mips. If you are interested, I can try to create and build for powerpc. |
| SlavekB | It would be for Debian Wheezy. |
| Kaizakilla | yes please |
| Kaizakilla | would it suit a debian wheezy 64bit ? |
| SlavekB | powerpc 64bit? |
| SlavekB | What is the name of the corresponding architecture? |
| Kaizakilla | powerpc |
| SlavekB | I'll try and let you know. |
| Kaizakilla | ok thanks |
| Kaizakilla | i'll be here |
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| Kaizakilla | hi |
| Kaizakilla | i'm heading home i'll be back soon |
| Kaizakilla | see you |
| SlavekB | bye |
| Kaizakilla | bye |
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| Kaizakilla_ | hi |
| Kaizakilla_ | i'm back |
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| Kaizakilla | re |
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| SlavekB | Later I'll try an older version of qemu-user-static, if it manages to break through the crash. |
| SlavekB | Or qemu 2.1.1 - I see that came out a few days ago. |
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| Kaizakilla | Slavek8 ok thanks for trying |
| Kaizakilla | SlavekB i'll be waiting for your new developpements. Thanks again and sorry for my english |
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| Kaizakilla | hi SlaveKB i just want to say you could also try with trinity 3.5. |
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| SlavekB | Kaizakilla_: good news - the problem with crashing CMake is resolved by using qemu-ppc-static from 32bit package |
| SlavekB | This means that I can move forward again. |
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| Kaizakilla | SlaveBk roger that |
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| Kaizakilla | hi I'm also looking for new "cool" or "advance" thèmes for trinity-desktop 3.5 |
| Kaizakilla | can you tell me where to find ones Thanks |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| mirda | hello |
| Trinityfan | what do you think about Q4OS? |
| mirda | linux distro with TDE? |
| Trinityfan | yes.It's a Debian based |
| Trinityfan | http://www.q4os.org/index.html |
| mirda | why not? but it has some *.esh* packages of some apps (chrome, firefox, libreoffice, etc.) |
| mirda | i never looked at q4os before |
| mirda | eh *.esh packages |
| Trinityfan | you have to install .esh (with simple wizard) package after distro install |
| Trinityfan | with DebApps you add Debian repositories |
| mirda | i rather like pure Debian with installed TDE |
| mirda | than some other TDE distros |
| Trinityfan | i like too,but noobies like a speedy install like this |
| Trinityfan | there isn't complete instruction for debian |
| mirda | good method, but only for experienced linux users, of installation is Debian text install, better expert install, install only whole system without GUI and other tasks, and then add TDE repos and install two metapackages as is described in TDE wiki |
| Trinityfan | TDE wiki should be updated for r14,Wheezy and Jessie |
| Trinityfan | it's outdated |
| mirda | what is new for R14 and Wheezy? |
| mirda | when was R14 released? |
| SlavekB | R14 is still development version, not final. |
| SlavekB | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=2014&hide_resolved=1 |
| mirda | thank you for that useful link |
| Trinityfan | Slavek |
| Trinityfan | Dekorator in Trinity? |
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| Arth_ | Hi everyone. Is this channel still somewhat alive? |
| mirda | Arth_: hello, yes, it is alive |
| Arth_ | oh. wow :) |
| Arth_ | I'm a longterm user of KDE3 (on openSUSE at home) and Trinity Desktop (at work, Ubuntu 12.04) |
| Arth_ | I'd like to continue using KDE3 when our institute switches to Ubuntu 14.04. There is currently no build for Ubuntu Trusty and no working/installable nighly build, so I'm willing to help. |
| SlavekB | Instead of nightly-builds you can use alternative apt source "preliminary-stable-builds", which >>is<< consistent. |
| Arth_ | Thanks. I didn't notice the preliminary-stable-builds. |
| Arth_ | I'll try that and report back' |
| Arth_ | 's/\'/./' |
| SlavekB | add to sources.list |
| SlavekB | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb trusty deps-r14 main-r14 |
| SlavekB | by the way, for Ubuntu 14.04 you can also add apt source for LibreOffice with Trinity integration: |
| SlavekB | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/libreoffice-tde-sb trusty main |
| Arth_ | thanks. Installing will take a while. |
| Arth_ | Thanks a bunch. Works fine so far. |
| Arth_ | Would you be happy with a donation to the TDE project, or is somebody running the mirror above closer to home? |
| SlavekB | Donations are always welcome. |
| SlavekB | Admittedly this mirror and builder are independent of the official build-farm, and thus independent of this donations. But donations are important for operation of the official site. |
| Arth_ | ok. I'll hand over 20 EUR via Paypal, even though I severely dislike Paypal. |
| Arth_ | Done. |
| SlavekB | Thank you! |
| Arth_ | I'll come back to ask questions, if necessary. Have a nice day. |
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| * Space_Man has just found the "advanced / suspend application" button | |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: can the dudpend / resume buttons be added to the "advanced" options on the taskbar? |
| Space_Man | I also want a suspend button on the window title bar |
| Space_Man | currently I add a "keep above" button, it would be very useful to have a suspend button next to it |
| SlavekB | Good idea. Please, can you fill it as ehancement request to bugzilla? |
| Space_Man | ok, I'll add the ideas later |
| Space_Man | maybe make the taskbar icons turn grey |
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| mirda | hi, exists repository with TDE for ubuntu 14.04? |
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| SlavekB | mirda: For Ubuntu 14.04, you must use either nighly-builds (currently in an inconsistent state) or preliminary-stable-builds. |
| SlavekB | Kaizakilla: I think I have good news for you! |
| mirda | hello |
| mirda | SlavekB: thank you |
| SlavekB | Ahoj :) |
| SlavekB | Kaizakilla: In the preliminary-stable-builds apt source are currently almost all packages of Trinity R14 also for powerpc platform. |
| Kaizakilla | hello slavek8 |
| Kaizakilla | ok i will look at it and try to install on the powerpc |
| Kaizakilla | thanks you |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| mirda | hello |
| Trinityfan | is it possible to run xmms-kde in trinity? |
| SlavekB | I believe that the xmms-kde is for xmms v1, which is not part of the distributions. |
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| LordShadowWing | hello |
| LordShadowWing | I am using CentOS 6.5 (Final) I would like to change the default login manager from GDM to TDM is this possible |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| wsky | hi |
| wsky | i forgot that i'm idling in this channel |
| Space_Man | hi Trinityfan and wsky |
| Trinityfan | news about Ark Linux? |
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| Vasistha | after installing a kvm switch, I see that when returning to a computer, the keyboard repeat delay and rate are reset (found in kcontrol > peripherals > keyboard). |
| Vasistha | How can I automatically have the keyboard repeat and delay re-applied when a new keyboard is plugged? |
| Vasistha | if I can get a hint as to how to apply settings with dcop or something, then I can do the peripheral detection scripting part myself |
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| wsky | https://www.dropbox.com/s/fmbomo0byns1hfj/zrzut%20ekranu2.png?dl=0 |
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| Space_Man | SlavekB: today I noticed in konqueror that file dates are wrong by 1 hour, new files and edited files are wrong, old untouched files appear to be fine |
| Space_Man | yesterday I renamed .trinity I have now been changing various settings |
| Space_Man | the time in the system tray is correct, the tickbox in set time automatically is ticked |
| Space_Man | my correct time zone appears to be correct |
| Space_Man | I'm in the UK and the timezone is london |
| SlavekB | This may be due to daylight savings time? |
| SlavekB | What is the type of file system? |
| Space_Man | it's either ext3 or ext4 |
| Space_Man | daylight savings time changes next weekend |
| SlavekB | Yes, I know. |
| Space_Man | that was the first thing I checked :P |
| SlavekB | :) |
| Space_Man | "have I missed it" |
| SlavekB | TDE 3.5.13.x or R14? |
| Space_Man | I am using r14 |
| Space_Man | updated earlier today |
| Space_Man | from the trinity repos |
| SlavekB | I tried it now on my work laptop 3.5.13.x. I'll try on a test machine with R14. |
| Space_Man | I just changed my timezone to adelaide, australia and the clock changed to 23:51 but files/dirs were created with 13:21 |
| SlavekB | I checked the old file - in both MC and Konqueror was same time. Did I edit the file - I checked again - time updated and still same in both. |
| Space_Man | using windows 2k in a virtual machine I created a new dir, windows claims it was created at 14:26, konqueror at 13:26 |
| Space_Man | the win2k clock said 14:26 |
| Space_Man | the clock here was 23:56 |
| SlavekB | After changing the time zone you are logged out / logged in? |
| Space_Man | no, I have not logged out |
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| Space_Man | SlavekB: konqueror is still reporting the wrong times for new files/dirs |
| * Space_Man gives up | |
| SlavekB | Are there any useful informations in .xsession-erros? |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: http://pastebin.com/TR3UQjLu the current .xsession-errors |
| Space_Man | attached to https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 are some other .xsession-errors |
| tbottu | 04Bug 2165: minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Slow login |
| Space_Man | using a different .trinity and a different user |
| Space_Man | I'm going to log out and test with a different user |
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| OxFEEDBACC | high |
| Space_Man | hello OxFEEDBACC |
| OxFEEDBACC | running opensuse 13.1 with TDE i just installed the quassel irc client (packages *-base and *-mono) |
| OxFEEDBACC | kicker crashed, and upon attempt to restart, kbuildsycoca started running wild, taking up 50% of a 2core/4thread i5 |
| OxFEEDBACC | killed it and tried to start kicker manually... the same... this time 25% cpu only... |
| Space_Man | that sounds bad |
| OxFEEDBACC | did a reboot, but the same... the login screen comes up, but the session is not initiated... |
| * Space_Man has no idea | |
| OxFEEDBACC | i attached gdb to the hanging kbuildsycoca, and found it is stuck somewhere deep in libc... |
| Space_Man | did you wait 5 minutes for the login to finish |
| OxFEEDBACC | this is the backtrace... in the hope someone can read something from it... http://lpaste.net/9038438209742176256 |
| * Space_Man has to wait 5 mins | |
| OxFEEDBACC | oh, longer than 5 minutes :-D |
| OxFEEDBACC | kbuildsycoca is stuck, obviously reading something, but it doesn't fail... |
| OxFEEDBACC | (and neither succeeds, indeed) |
| Space_Man | make a bug report or try the mailing list |
| Space_Man | this chan is very quiet |
| OxFEEDBACC | yeah, i know... :-/ |
| OxFEEDBACC | brb |
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| Space_Man | SlavekB: I have just updated and logged out / in, the system time and file creation time are now the same, using R14 |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: I understand correctly that now everything is okay? |
| Space_Man | hi SlavekB, yes everything is ok |
| Space_Man | although I still have a problem with logging in, it takes about 5 mins before the desktop icons appear |
| Space_Man | on saturday I replace .trinity and the long log in problem stopped, but now it is back again |
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| Space_Man | the slow login maybe fixed :P |
| Space_Man | I use a slide show for the desktop |
| Space_Man | it changes the image every 10 minutes |
| Space_Man | I selected many dirs that had about 54,000 photos |
| SlavekB | wow :) |
| Space_Man | :P |
| Space_Man | I'll update the my bug report |
| Space_Man | I can also update the bug report about missing login images |
| Space_Man | the log in pics are set in system admin / login manager / users on the right hand side |
| Space_Man | I was trying to set the pic in security & accessibilty / password & users |
| mirda | hello |
| mirda | Space_Man: did you mean this? http://i.imgur.com/d6wbxwO.png |
| mirda | i am sorry for screen with czech texts |
| mirda | see the right side of image |
| mirda | Zdroj obrázku uživatele - source of user image |
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| Space_Man | hi mirda, yes I do mean that area |
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| mirda | Space_Man: what problem did you have with it? |
| Space_Man | I changed the image in "security & accessibilty / password & users" but it did not appear in the login screen |
| Space_Man | I assumed that was the picture for the login screen |
| Space_Man | user error :P |
| mirda | hehe :) |
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| Arven | I'm running the trinity nightly builds, and with a current update the html viewer appears to be broken... KImageMapEditor is the only thing available to view html documents. |
| Arven | does this imply an update to the KHTML code, or just a build not having completed? |
| SlavekB | Arven: Unfortunately, that now I can not try it on my test machine. Please rather report this to bugzilla. |
| Arven | SlavekB: Allright, thanks. I'll do that just as soon as I determine it's not some stale config or other. |
| Arven | What sort of information should I include. The (without image map editor even available) error is "There appears to be a configuration error. You have associated Konqueror with text/html, but it cannot handle this file type." |
| SlavekB | In the bug description add information about version tdebase and tdewebdev. |
| Arven | SlavekB: I have tested without tdewebdev available, since I'm pretty sure KHTML is in tdebase. |
| Arven | Correct me if I'm wrong. |
| SlavekB | konqueror is in tdebase, khtml is in tdelibs. |
| Arven | I notice that jessie is not a valid selection for repository |
| Arven | and thanks, I'll note the version of tdebase and tdelibs |
| SlavekB | In that case, add the name of the distribution to bug description. |
| Arven | http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2169 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 2169: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror unable to display html in some cases |
| Arven | I'm sorry for wasting your time, but I'm afraid it indeed was some configuration I overlooked. A new user account does not have the issue. |
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| Arven | SlavekB: It's solved by wiping out ~/.trinity/cache-mire/tdesycoca*, should I go ahead and mark the bug as resolved/invalid, or is there a potential that there's a more sinister bug lurking below? |
| SlavekB | It seems that you can write how you solved problem and close bug report. |
| Arven | thanks |
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| Space_Man | SlavekB: do you know were the "keep above" button icon file is stored? |
| Space_Man | I want to edit it and change its colour |
| Arven | Space_Man: I'm not entirely sure but I might be able to locate it |
| Arven | Space_Man: It's the "go-" series buttons... go-up.png for keep above, etc. |
| Arven | Space_Man: /opt/trinity/share/icons/<theme>/16x16/actions/go-up.png |
| Space_Man | thank you SlavekB |
| SlavekB | I am in fact innocent - help provided by Arven :) |
| Space_Man | lol |
| Space_Man | thank you Arven |
| Space_Man | Arven: you are the best :P |
| Arven | Space_Man: welcome :P |
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| krylloan | hello (if anyone's here & awake), xfce user here - I use KDE's dolphin and kate. Dolphin no longer offers metadata info on rightclick without KDE4's indexing stuff (which I hate). Would it be feasible/easy to install Trinity's dolphin on xfce? Will it be much different? |
| * Space_Man tries to install dolphin-trinity | |
| Space_Man | extra packages needed are: amarok-common-trinity amarok-engine-xine-trinity amarok-trinity dolphin-trinity libifp4 libmp4v2-2 libmysqlclient18 libnjb5 libpq5 mysql-common |
| SlavekB | Note: amarok-trinity is only recommended. |
| Space_Man | Suggested packages: libqt0-ruby-trinity amarok-engines-trinity moodbar kfloppy-trinity |
| Space_Man | this is .14 |
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| Arven | Has k3b-trinity been dropped? |
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| Arven | Oh, it appears the build has failed |
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| krylloan | thanks for the feedback - I guess that means no strigi etc needed - cool - will give it a try. |
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| spippi | hi |
| spippi | i want install trinity on arch it's possible and as |
| spippi | what's the correct link fr repository? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2184 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2184 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , [kaffeine] damaged functionality - missing menu items |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2184 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2184 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [kaffeine] damaged functionality - missing menu items |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2081 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2081 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Amarok crashes on startup on Debian/Jessie |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2183 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2183 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Amarok hangs when updating podcast feeds |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2176 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2176 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , TWin randomly overloads CPU when using transparency effects |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2176 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2176 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TWin randomly overloads CPU when using transparency effects |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2182 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2182 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Crystal transparent window border lockups |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2185 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2185 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE apps not directing audio to HDMI when HDMI is enabled |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2186 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2186 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kaffeine crashes when attempting to play MP4 video |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1850 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1850 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , [Help Handbooks] Help handbooks in kcontrol modules with multiple tabs does not work |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2187 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2187 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: tdenetwork FTBFS on opensuse build service |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2187 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2187 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2187 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, NEEDINFO , Build issue: tdenetwork FTBFS on opensuse build service |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 687 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=687 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Keyboard controls for mute/unmute don't work sometimes |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Component on bug 2185 from tdemultimedia to arts. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2185 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE apps not directing audio to HDMI when HDMI is enabled |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1899 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1899 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [stdout/stderr] tdm: TQImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image |
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| Wizard | Hi. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2188 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2188 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , khelpcenter handbook section wrong display/resolution (in some rare cases) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 202 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=202 major, P3, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, OpenOffice.org and Compiz upgrade/install, upon adding the kde3 repository |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 418 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=418 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, kgtk2-wrapper iceweasel %u hangs when using padsp |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 546 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=546 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Graphical Issue - gtk-qt-engine |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1497 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1497 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, gtk-qt-application often crashes i.c.w. Chromium |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1471 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1471 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Build issue: python-trinity: ImportError: No module named dcop |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 369 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=369 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Pidgin segfaults on Startup on Maverick KDE3 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1471 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1471 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED , Build issue: python-trinity: ImportError: No module named dcop |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2189 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Some windows stays transparent with recent Compton update |
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| Uber-Ich | Should I use a special method to install trinity on Debian Sid? |
| Uber-Ich | Should I just change the repo to Sid instead of Wheezy? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2182 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2182 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Crystal transparent window border lockups |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1307 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1307 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Flickering screen when opening/closing apps |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1489 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1489 major, P2, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Visual glitches when QTCurve is used on R14 nightlies |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 645 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=645 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, reading '.kompmgr.pid' as kompmgr pidfile |
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| HalVik | Does anyone else have the problwm with KPowersave locking at 100% CPU at uneven intervals? It is driving me nuts. Running TDE 3.5.13.2 on Debian Wheezy. |
| HalVik | I read online that it could be related to HAL, but I don't know if there is a solution. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2190 filed by hallvor1976@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2190 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KPowersave 100% CPU |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 887 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=887 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kcompmgr: Move the location of .kompmgr.available and kompmgr.pid |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2190 from NEW to SRUONLY. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2190 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, SRUONLY , KPowersave 100% CPU |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2191 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2191 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdeprint does not support the compressed PPD database |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2192 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2192 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror intro page icons are not XDG compliant |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2193 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2193 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , libsvnqt4-trinity and tdesvn-trinity conflict |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2194 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2194 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Circular dependencies in tdebase |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Component on bug 2191 from tdebase to tdelibs. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2191 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdeprint does not support the compressed PPD database |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2191 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2191 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , tdeprint does not support the compressed PPD database |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2191 from ASSIGNED to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2191 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdeprint does not support the compressed PPD database |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2195 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2195 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14 trinity-apt-archive points to nightly builds |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2196 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2196 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , 404 errors due to mirrors not syncing properly |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2025 from NEW --- to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2025 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Windows drop shadow is not redrawn when background change |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2197 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2197 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Circular dependency in tdepim |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2198 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2198 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Please change priority of trinity-apt-archive to optional |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2198 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2198 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Please change priority of trinity-apt-archive to optional |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1489 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1489 major, P2, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Visual glitches when QTCurve is used on R14 nightlies |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2193 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2193 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, libsvnqt4-trinity and tdesvn-trinity conflict |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2195 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2195 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, R14 trinity-apt-archive points to nightly builds |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2199 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2199 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , synaptic-trinity priority should be optional, not important |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2189 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Some windows stay transparent with recent Compton update |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2199 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2199 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, synaptic-trinity priority should be optional, not important |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2200 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2200 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdevelop-trinity should not depend on g++, tdelibs14-trinity-dev, and tqt3-apps-dev |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2201 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2201 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , migratekde3 should be easier to find |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2202 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2202 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Bad test for active session in migratekde3 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2203 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2203 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Superfluous kdebindings-trinity package? |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2203 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2203 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Superfluous kdebindings-trinity package? |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2203 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2203 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED , Superfluous kdebindings-trinity package? |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2203 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2203 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Superfluous kdebindings-trinity package? |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2194 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2194 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Circular dependencies in tdebase |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2197 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2197 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Circular dependency in tdepim |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2204 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2204 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , filelight-l10n-trinity should be dropped from release |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2205 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2205 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , smb4k has outdated dependency in Debian |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2197 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2197 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Circular dependency in tdepim |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2204 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2204 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, filelight-l10n-trinity should be dropped from release |
| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2202 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2202 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , Bad test for active session in migratekde3 |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1489 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1489 major, P2, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Visual glitches when QTCurve is used on R14 nightlies |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1620 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1620 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, Text corruption after suspend to RAM |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1380 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1380 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kmail not recognizing SMTP protocol |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1160 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1160 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror regularly crashes on exit |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2205 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2205 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, smb4k has outdated dependency in Debian |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2206 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2206 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Circular dependency in kvirc-trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2207 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2207 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Circular dependency in kcontrol-ldap-bonding-trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2208 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Circular dependency in mlt-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2206 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2206 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Circular dependency in kvirc-trinity |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2207 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2207 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Circular dependency in kcontrol-ldap-bonding-trinity |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2208 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Circular dependency in mlt-trinity |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2191 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2191 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tdeprint does not support the compressed PPD database |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2197 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2197 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Circular dependency in tdepim |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2209 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2209 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror is completely broken |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2189 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED , Some windows stay transparent with recent Compton update |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Component on bug 1616 from tdebase to tdegraphics. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1616 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Photo cameras (at least some Canon) cannot be accessed from konqueror directly |
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| weeet3 | for the new rc14 release, is there a fix for the libdepim1a-trinity / libkcal2b-trinity package ? |
| weeet3 | from the error log, it stops dead on update on tdepim-trinity |
| SlavekB | weeet3: What's your apt source? |
| weeet3 | sources.list? |
| SlavekB | yes |
| weeet3 | 1s |
| weeet3 | hmm well its just the default one from the x86 livecd release |
| weeet3 | no entries for ... the trinity .. |
| weeet3 | hmm |
| SlavekB | file in folder sources.list.d? |
| weeet3 | there it is :P deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/ubuntu trusty main |
| weeet3 | this was fresh off of the r14 i386 live cd install, just did a apt-get update and apt-get upgrade |
| SlavekB | libkcal2b-trinity is real package or is provided by libdepim1a-trinity? |
| weeet3 | it stops on a conflict on replacement on a file in /etc/opt/trinity 1s lookn through logs |
| SlavekB | Previously libkcal2b-trinity was a separate package. After update, which was after the release of RC1, was merged with libdepim1a-trinity. |
| SlavekB | That is why I am interested in what version you have. |
| weeet3 | gotcha -- well its from the tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-11-17-2014-i386.iso - from the tde's link to the live cd - https://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/release/R14.0.0-RC1/ |
| weeet3 | Remove: tdepim-trinity:i386 (14.0.0-r460-0ubuntu14.04.0+pr43) |
| SlavekB | ha, here it is - in RC1 apt sources refer to the nightly-builds. |
| SlavekB | tdepim 14.0.0-r460-0ubuntu14.04.0+pr43 is from nightly-builds |
| weeet3 | Alright the /var/log/apt/history.log had the Upgrade: tdepim-trinity:i386 (14.0.0-r460-0ubuntu14.04.0+pr42, 14.0.0-r460-0ubuntu14.04.0+pr43), |
| SlavekB | However, this would mean that we will probably have to adjust depending - use Conflicts instead Breaks. |
| weeet3 | Huh well.. pulled the iso from main site following the links. Is the i386 nightly in the wrong spot? went from: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ -> https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Beta_Repository_Installation_Instructions -> https://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/release/R14.0.0-RC1/ |
| weeet3 | MD5 Matches. 1710931cdb90f8de4a65d2d96b3f715f tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-11-17-2014-i386.iso |
| weeet3 | alright well.. hmm aptitude seems to have been able to force its way past.. im pretty sure packages broken but.. ill play some more i guess |
| weeet3 | er my packages heh :P thank the lord for virtual machines |
| SlavekB | The problem was that the package trinity-apt-archive contained in RC1 referred to the nightly-builds. |
| weeet3 | Alright.. so you guys'll adjust on your end ? :D |
| SlavekB | After the update you've done, the package trinity-apt-archive was also updated, so now apt sources refers to R14 sources. |
| weeet3 | ahhh |
| weeet3 | alright.. well its just a vm so no harm no foul :) Thanks for your time |
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| SlavekB | I thank you for the information, that the current dependence is not sufficient for a smooth upgrade. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2210 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2210 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Suggest dropping desktop-base-trinity from Debian installation instructions |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2210 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2210 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Suggest dropping desktop-base-trinity from Debian installation instructions |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2211 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2211 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE presents unnecessary dialog when connecting ebook reader |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2201 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2201 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , migratekde3 should be easier to find |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2211 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2211 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDE presents unnecessary dialog when connecting ebook reader |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2160 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2160 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: artsc-config script returns invalid header directory |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2212 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2212 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add support for transparent png background picture for the TDE panel |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2159 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2159 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdemultimedia on openbsd |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2213 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2213 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE Control always overwrite font config + need update |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2214 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2214 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kcmkuick does not show up in Control module list |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2215 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2215 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , libr0 bug causes FTBFS when build is in different filesystem than /tmp |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2211 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2211 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE presents unnecessary dialog when connecting ebook reader |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2211 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2211 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDE presents unnecessary dialog when connecting ebook reader |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2216 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2216 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDESU/sudo problem: Can't adjust clock with TDE... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2217 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2217 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Warning: using regular magic file |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2218 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2218 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Repeated Twin crashes |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2218 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2218 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Repeated Twin crashes |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2196 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2196 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , 404 errors due to mirrors not syncing properly |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2218 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2218 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Repeated Twin crashes |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2218 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2218 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Repeated Twin crashes |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2189 from REOPENED to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Some windows stay transparent with recent Compton update |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2211 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2211 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE presents unnecessary dialog when connecting ebook reader |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2202 from PATCHAVAIL to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2202 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Bad test for active session in migratekde3 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2196 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2196 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, 404 errors due to mirrors not syncing properly |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2200 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2200 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tdevelop-trinity should not depend on g++, tdelibs14-trinity-dev, and tqt3-apps-dev |
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| Space_Man | SlavekB: do you know of any live cd with latest ubuntu or debian and .14 trinity? |
| SlavekB | https://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/release/R14.0.0-RC1/ |
| SlavekB | http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/jessie/ |
| Space_Man | thanks SlavekB |
| Space_Man | I'm downloading from https://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/release/R14.0.0-RC1/ |
| Space_Man | it will take about 8 hours to download :( |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2219 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2219 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Arts error message upon resume |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2220 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2220 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Task switching semi-broken |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2220 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2220 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Task switching semi-broken |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2216 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2216 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDESU/sudo problem: Can't adjust clock with TDE... |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2189 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Some windows stay transparent with recent Compton update |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2221 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2221 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Mirror redirection corner case 1/2 - directories |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2216 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2216 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, TDESU/sudo problem: Can't adjust clock with TDE... |
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| tbottu | 10krisgamrat@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 2220 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2220 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Task switching semi-broken |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1489 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1489 major, P2, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Visual glitches when QTCurve is used on R14 nightlies |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2222 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2222 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kdesktop_lock remained active after awakening |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2223 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2223 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KWord displaying icorrect colors |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2224 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2224 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Menu hightlighting glitch |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2225 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2225 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Gnome 3 Nautilus causes problems to TDE |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2226 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2226 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Control Center crashes |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2227 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2227 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] TDE Crash Handler can't generate backtraces |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2228 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2228 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , BII titlebar issue |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2229 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2229 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Changing style causes system tray icon misplacement |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2230 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2230 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kdesktop_lock wakes screen when screen sleeps |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2228 from NEW --- to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2228 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, BII titlebar issue |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2222 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2222 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , kdesktop_lock remained active after awakening |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2226 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2226 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Control Center crashes |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2231 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2231 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Missing items in KOrganizer alarm daemon systray menu |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2231 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2231 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Missing items in KOrganizer alarm daemon systray menu |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2222 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2222 critical, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdesktop_lock remained active after awakening |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1850 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1850 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, [Help Handbooks] Help handbooks in kcontrol modules with multiple tabs does not work |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2232 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2232 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE presents two dialogs and desktop icons with USB ISO image |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2233 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2233 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , v14.0.1 official bug list (meta-bug) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1879 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1879 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , Remove old distros from KControl Network Settings |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1879 from REOPENED to NEW. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2234 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2234 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Yakuake doesn't retract on screen lock |
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| Space_Man | tde icon edit has a background with KDE logo |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2188 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2188 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, khelpcenter handbook section wrong display/resolution (in some rare cases) |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2189 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Some windows stay transparent with recent Compton update |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2200 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2200 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, tdevelop-trinity should not depend on g++, tdelibs14-trinity-dev, and tqt3-apps-dev |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2235 filed by werner@hoernerfranzracing.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2235 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kontact crashes upon exit |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2226 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2226 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Control Center crashes |
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| pestr | hi |
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| pestr | how to install trinity in Debian Jessie? |
| pestr | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall |
| SlavekB | pestr: Ahoj. You need to install nightly-builds or preliminary-stable-builds. |
| pestr | SlavekB: Ahoj |
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| pestr | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Nightly_Builds |
| pestr | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dependencies/ubuntu jessie main |
| pestr | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ubuntu jessie main |
| SlavekB | Yes, this is correct for nightly-builds. |
| SlavekB | For preliminary-stable-builds is simple: |
| SlavekB | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb jessie deps-r14 main-r14 |
| pestr | What is better? stable-build or nightly-builds? |
| SlavekB | Both is now mostly the same. |
| pestr | What is more stable in Debian Jessie? |
| SlavekB | Nightly-builds is on build-farm => primary server with low bandwidth. |
| SlavekB | Preliminary-stable-builds is alternative apt source on better bandwidth. |
| pestr | ok, Dakujem / Thanks |
| SlavekB | Because new release R14 is near-to-release, both apt packages are from mostly the same git sources. |
| pestr | R14 have something new |
| pestr | ? |
| SlavekB | For example new tdehwlib as replacement of HAL. |
| SlavekB | It also include support for NetworkManager >= 0.9. |
| pestr | ok |
| SlavekB | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 |
| pestr | I'm going to to Install |
| pestr | first uninstall KDE 4 :) |
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| pestr | aptitude install kde-trinity |
| pestr | tdelibs14-trinity : Závisí na: libart-2.0-2 (>= 4:14.0.0~) ale 2.3.21-2 sa bude inštalovať. |
| pestr | desktop-base-trinity : Koliduje s: desktop-base ale 7.0.3 nie je inštalovaný. |
| pestr | tde-trinity : Kazí: kde-trinity ale 4:14.0.0-s~2-0debian8.0.0+16 sa bude inštalovať. |
| SlavekB | aptitude install tde-trinity |
| pestr | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall |
| pestr | 3. Install Trinity: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install kde-trinity |
| SlavekB | This is instructions for TDE 3.5.x |
| pestr | ok |
| pestr | thanks |
| SlavekB | but problem seems to be: tdelibs14-trinity : Závisí na: libart-2.0-2 (>= 4:14.0.0~) ale 2.3.21-2 sa bude inštalovať. |
| SlavekB | libart is part of Trinity apt source. |
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| SlavekB | For example, in preliminary-stable-builds is libart-2.0-2 4:14.0.0-s~6-0debian8.0.0+13. |
| SlavekB | Version 2.3.21-2 is previous version from Jessie. |
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| pestr | SlavekB: trinity working super, thank for your help |
| SlavekB | Good news are always welcome :) |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2234 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2234 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Yakuake doesn't retract on screen lock |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2236 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2236 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Cannot apply TDM theme |
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| tbottu | 10krisgamrat@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 2091 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2091 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Enhancement Request: Task menu |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2237 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2237 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] Enable SAK-compatible TDM themes |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2238 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2238 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] Sound themes |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2239 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2239 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Default Applications doesn't detect all instant messenger |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2240 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2240 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror crash caused by Ark |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2235 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2235 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , kontact crashes upon exit |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2240 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2240 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Konqueror crash caused by Ark |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2236 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2236 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Cannot apply TDM theme |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2240 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2240 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror crash caused by Ark |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2240 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2240 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Konqueror crash caused by Ark |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2240 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2240 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror crash caused by Ark |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2240 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2240 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Konqueror crash caused by Ark |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2235 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2235 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kontact crashes upon exit |
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| pestr | hi |
| pestr | i have problem with switch keyborad |
| pestr | i have this settings |
| pestr | setxkbmap -option grp:lalt_lshift_toggle |
| pestr | keyboard swtich dont work, only mouse change |
| pestr | image keyboard flag dont change when change layout with keyboard |
| SlavekB | This, unfortunately, I do not advise. I have never used a method of switching keyboard in XFree / Xorg - always applet KDE / TDE. |
| SlavekB | In recent years, I do not switch the keyboard at all, because all the characters needed I can write, in combination with AltGr. |
| pestr | i am use applet in TDE |
| pestr | and dont work |
| SlavekB | Default shortcut is Ctrl+Alt+K - this work? |
| pestr | left alt+ left shift |
| SlavekB | And this you have set in the TDE applet or in Xorg? |
| pestr | applet |
| SlavekB | And when you try to set up some "real" key? |
| SlavekB | Note: I mean setting in Control Center / International / Keyboard shortcuts / Global shortcuts / Keyboard. |
| SlavekB | ...and here cannot be set Alt+Shift without real key. |
| pestr | hmm |
| pestr | control center-keyboard shortcut |
| pestr | down > keyboard Alt+ISO_NEXT_Next_Group |
| pestr | switch keyborad layout already work, or image flag keybord dont change |
| pestr | also CTRL+ALT+K or left ALT + left Shift work |
| pestr | only image flag is unvaried |
| pestr | When I click the mouse on the flag by the change |
| SlavekB | On my test machine I have just set switching keyboard - pressed Ctrl + Alt + K, and works as it should. |
| SlavekB | Note - I do not use any: setxkbmap -option grp:lalt_lshift_toggle |
| pestr | thanks |
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| pestr | restart TDE |
| pestr | SlavekB: switch keyborad work with CTRL+ALT+k |
| pestr | xkb setting is off |
| pestr | use Global settings |
| SlavekB | Yes, I have configured it identically. |
| pestr | Thanks |
| pestr | SlavekB: deb http://mirror.xcer... |
| pestr | GPG key dont have |
| SlavekB | apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-key A04BE668 |
| pestr | thanks very much |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2241 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2241 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , K3B OSD displays on screen saver and lock screen |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2189 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Some windows stay transparent with recent Compton update |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2147 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2147 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Lockups in K3B when burning DVD iso images |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2240 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2240 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Qupzilla causes Konqueror / Ark to crash |
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| olgiogfg | so in r14 rc2 live cd, the background darkening that happens top to bottom when you open the logot/shutdown dialog is very stuttery. this was not the case with older trinity |
| olgiogfg | i mean i installed to hard drive from the ubuntu-based live cd |
| olgiogfg | and also, i'm not sure how to enable tear-free compositing, if that is possible |
| olgiogfg | also i hate that out of the box gtk3 apps are unthemed/ugly |
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| Richard82 | hi |
| Richard82 | I just downloaded trinity desktop in the latest release |
| Richard82 | and I wondered, how I can connect to WIFI ? |
| Richard82 | there is no network manager applet next to the clock where I'd expect it to be? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2242 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2242 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Powersaving features randomly disappear |
| tbottu | 10krisgamrat@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 2234 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2234 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Yakuake doesn't retract on screen lock |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2243 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2243 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Flicker effect from compositor fade effects |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2243 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2243 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Flicker effect from compositor fade effects |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2244 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2244 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE Background cannot be changed/removed after changing it |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2105 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2105 minor, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , K3B can't find /tmp/kde-{username} |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2189 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED , Some windows stay transparent with recent Compton update |
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| Richard82 | hi |
| Richard82 | I am looking for help |
| Richard82 | there should be a network manager available in R14 |
| Richard82 | I tried around, but I could not find any |
| Richard82 | how can I connect to the internet, please? |
| SlavekB | For R14 is available package network-manager-tde. |
| Richard82 | Thank you for the quick help - I try to find it! |
| Richard82 | no result for "network-manager-tde" |
| SlavekB | You have TDE R14 or TDE 3.5.13.x? |
| Richard82 | holy crap I think I installed the wrong version :-(((( |
| Richard82 | I did it like this: |
| Richard82 | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall |
| Richard82 | for Debian Wheezy |
| SlavekB | R14 is near-to-release, but current official stable is 3.5.13.2. |
| Richard82 | wasn't R14 be "near to release" 2 years ago? ;-) |
| Richard82 | I remember the blog post which said, that even though it will not be perfect, it will be released within a few couple of days ;) |
| SlavekB | Now is R14 RC2 :) |
| Richard82 | how can I upgrade to R14 R2 ? |
| Richard82 | by the way, congratulations that you, Slavek, and Tim really kept going this project, even though it must have been extremly exhausting to keep such a huge project running !! |
| SlavekB | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Beta_Repository_Installation_Instructions |
| Richard82 | thank you !! |
| Richard82 | SlavekB, sorry for bothering again: Since I already installed the currently stable version - what will happen, if I follow the instruction guidelines which you pointed me to? |
| Richard82 | Will I then have 2 versions of TDE running? |
| Richard82 | or do I have to uninstlal TDE 3.5.13.x first? |
| Richard82 | *uninstall |
| Richard82 | or what is the best practice in this case? |
| SlavekB | No, if you change apt sources and do: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, you get R14. |
| Richard82 | so not like the website says: |
| Richard82 | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| SlavekB | If you have already installed the 3.5.13.x, you can easily update, instead of the new installation. |
| Richard82 | great |
| Richard82 | thank you! |
| SlavekB | I recommend to update from the text console - not from running TDE. |
| Richard82 | I am just on KDE 4 in "konsole" |
| Richard82 | is that fine too? |
| SlavekB | Yes, its ok. |
| Richard82 | 1 to remove: |
| Richard82 | libkcal2b-trinity |
| Richard82 | I say "Y" |
| SlavekB | yes libkcal2b-trinity is merged into libtdepim1-trinity. |
| Richard82 | SlavekB, did working on this project bring you good job offers in real life? |
| SlavekB | Even before I had a job that I enjoy. Work on Trinity gave me many new experiences. |
| Richard82 | I always wonder, where to learn such stuff. Personally, I am a (very) skilled web developer / programmer. |
| Richard82 | BUT: |
| Richard82 | Doing what you do - I would fail !! |
| Richard82 | especially the package managment |
| Richard82 | and soooo many small little things that you have to take care of |
| Richard82 | soo many users asking for bugfixes... sounds like a never ending night-mare |
| SlavekB | It is true that it takes a lot of time and effort. |
| Richard82 | the thing that I wonder about most: How the heck can you understand all the code which has been distributed by so many other developers? You started with the KDE 3 source which is totally messed up. |
| Richard82 | You had to understand the structure, and the meaning of the code, even though many, many different programmers distributed that code |
| Richard82 | so the logic behind is very variable |
| SlavekB | I would not say that I understand all that code. I am constantly studying it when seeking and fixing bugs :) |
| Richard82 | SlavekB, did the TDE project already attract new developers who activly help? |
| SlavekB | Some time ago, was very actively joined Michele. His work is very useful. However, the team of programmers is still small. |
| SlavekB | Also we miss maintainers of packages for some other distributions. For example, Arch. Many users asks, but there is no one to maintain those packages. |
| Richard82 | I'd love to help, but I don't know any C |
| Richard82 | is there a chance to learn anything from new which would help the project TDE ? |
| Richard82 | I am willed to invest up to 15 hours / week, but at the moment, I don't have C knowledge, that's the only problem |
| SlavekB | Soon it might be useful to help with update translations. |
| SlavekB | ...if your native language is not English :) |
| Richard82 | mine is german |
| Richard82 | so if that helps, I am willed to do translations |
| Richard82 | SlavekB, sorry for bothering, I have a weird question: |
| Richard82 | Do I want "kdm-trinity" or "tdm-trinity" as default display manager |
| Richard82 | ? |
| SlavekB | After update kdm-trinity will be replaced by tdm-trinity. |
| SlavekB | In first debconf question you can leave as default kdm-trinity. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2105 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2105 minor, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, K3B can't find /tmp/kde-{username} |
| SlavekB | Thanks to this, will be able to properly terminate kdm-trinity during update. |
| SlavekB | But if you are just running KDE4 from kdm-trinity, it may not be a good idea not to stop kdm-trinity during installation, but manually after logout from KDE4. |
| Richard82 | so.... |
| Richard82 | what is the best choise?! |
| Richard82 | I have read what you wrote, but I cannot see the best solution |
| SlavekB | If it is possible to terminate the kdm-trinity during upgrade is a better option to keep kdm-trinity as the default for this time. |
| SlavekB | If it is not possible to terminate kdm-trinity during upgrade, so the choice is not essential. |
| Richard82 | I see |
| Richard82 | thank you |
| Richard82 | SlavekB, there was an error at the *very end* of the installation |
| Richard82 | --- |
| Richard82 | Unpacking replacement libkpimidentities1-trinity ... |
| Richard82 | Processing triggers for man-db ... |
| Richard82 | Processing triggers for menu ... |
| Richard82 | Processing triggers for mime-support ... |
| Richard82 | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| Richard82 | /var/cache/apt/archives/tdelibs-data-trinity_4%3a14.0.0-r1221-0debian7.0.0+pr137_all.deb |
| Richard82 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| SlavekB | This is probably a conflict in unpacking the package. It is possible to trace in the statement, what file / package caused conflict? |
| Richard82 | no idea how? |
| Richard82 | the whole installation process seemed to be OK |
| SlavekB | You can scroll back in the statement? |
| SlavekB | If not, it should be enough to simply run "apt-get dist-upgrade" again. |
| Richard82 | SlavekB, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2WYwH0Ax |
| Richard82 | unmet dependencies |
| Richard82 | my system is busted |
| Richard82 | SlavekB, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SxmmL4dz |
| SlavekB | I found it: |
| SlavekB | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/tdelibs-data-trinity_4%3a14.0.0-r1221-0debian7.0.0+pr137_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/devices/cdrom_unmount_encrypt.png', which is also in package kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity 4:3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0 |
| SlavekB | Oops, it's annoying. |
| Richard82 | is it my fault? |
| SlavekB | I am afraid that "apt-get install -f" will want to remove it many packages? |
| SlavekB | No, it's not your fault - we need to modify the relationship of dependence between tdelibs-data-trinity and kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity |
| SlavekB | This is weird. Now I checked the package tdelibs-data-trinity is set up, it is in conflict with kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity. |
| Richard82 | I paste the output |
| Richard82 | hold on |
| SlavekB | This should avoid just such a problem. |
| Richard82 | SlavekB, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xy2cDvsh |
| SlavekB | well, it's ok. |
| Richard82 | can I say "Y" ? |
| SlavekB | after shit "apt-get install -f" you can continue with repeat "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| SlavekB | Yes, you can say 'y' |
| Richard82 | what will the dist-upgrade do for me then? |
| Richard82 | it won't bring back the removed package I assume |
| Richard82 | SlavekB, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VMGMdsGt |
| SlavekB | It should then dist-upgrade to complete the upgrade - namely: "... and 236 not upgraded." |
| SlavekB | You can leave your modified tdmrc. |
| Richard82 | thx again |
| Richard82 | 236 upgraded, 59 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| Richard82 | Need to get 0 B/225 MB of archives. |
| Richard82 | that's interesting |
| Richard82 | it Needs to get 0 B |
| SlavekB | Yes, packages are already downloaded from prior apt-get dist-upgrade |
| Richard82 | do you have Döner Kebap in Czech republic as well? |
| Richard82 | I am hungry like a street dog, I need to eat something ^.^ |
| SlavekB | To my knowledge, yes :) |
| Richard82 | I need to end KDE4 in order to start into TDE (so I have to leave the chat) |
| SlavekB | ok |
| Richard82 | since I have to leave the chat (for booting into TDE) I will use the time to get a "Döner Kebap" |
| Richard82 | see you later ^.^ |
| Richard82 | thank you soooooooo much for your help!!! |
| SlavekB | so, I should finally go to sleep ... :) |
| Richard82 | same time-zone... |
| Richard82 | Sleep fine :) |
| SlavekB | yeah, yeah :) |
| Richard82 | bye bye :) |
| Richard82 | thx again! |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2245 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2245 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , conflict tdelibs-data-trinity × kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity during dist-upgrade |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2246 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2246 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14.0.1 resolved bug list (meta bug) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2247 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2247 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14.1.0 resolved bug list (meta bug) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2248 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2248 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Release notes should recommend replacing tdmrc |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2249 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2249 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , dist-upgrade fails replacing pyqt-tools with pytqt-tools |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2250 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2250 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Wrong path in kopete-trinity postinst |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2251 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2251 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Circular dependency in tdepim |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2252 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2252 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Circular dependency in tdesvn-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2253 filed by luizromario2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2253 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ksmserver crashes at shutdown |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2254 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2254 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , smartcardauth breaks update-initramfs |
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| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2193 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2193 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, libsvnqt4-trinity and tdesvn-trinity conflict |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2194 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2194 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, Circular dependencies in tdebase |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2195 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2195 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, R14 trinity-apt-archive points to nightly builds |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2196 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2196 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, 404 errors due to mirrors not syncing properly |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2197 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2197 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, REOPENED , Circular dependency in tdepim |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2198 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2198 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, Please change priority of trinity-apt-archive to optional |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2199 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2199 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED , synaptic-trinity priority should be optional, not important |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2200 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2200 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, tdevelop-trinity should not depend on g++, tdelibs14-trinity-dev, and tqt3-apps-dev |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2204 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2204 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, filelight-l10n-trinity should be dropped from release |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2205 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
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| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2205 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, smb4k has outdated dependency in Debian |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2206 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2206 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, Circular dependency in kvirc-trinity |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2208 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, Circular dependency in mlt-trinity |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2210 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2210 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, Suggest dropping desktop-base-trinity from Debian installation instructions |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 918 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=918 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , kpowersave doesn't call pm-suspend or pm-hibernate on Wheezy amd64 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2255 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2255 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , r14-xdg-update script does not convert *.ics files |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2256 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2256 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Edge-of-screen desktop switching very finicky |
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| skrzyp | Why that official TDE mirror is so slow? |
| skrzyp | other mirrors works well, but they're not synced properly (incompatible versions between packages) |
| skrzyp | ok, now it works well |
| skrzyp | https://u.teknik.io/5oxGR2.png |
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| carlo85 | hi |
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| pestr | hi |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2257 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KWord can't open valid .odt files |
| tbottu | 10krisgamrat@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 2244 from NEW --- to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2244 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, TDE Menu Background cannot be changed/removed after changing it |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2258 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2258 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] Selectively apply "Use Deep Buttons" |
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| carramba | hi ther |
| carramba | e |
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| skrzyp | carramba: ohayou |
| carramba | to be honest & quick, I ma a kde3 user |
| carramba | :) |
| carramba | still for, you know from kde 3.1 |
| carramba | and nice to know, that someoine is stil maintainning this (nowadays light) window manager |
| carramba | I thougth, y;re dead for a while but skrzyp told me You;re preparing new vwrsion |
| skrzyp | carramba: hold on, it's sunday's night |
| skrzyp | probably everyone here are sleeping now |
| carramba | I know, Im drunk too |
| skrzyp | I see :D |
| carramba | :) |
| Space_Man | 3.5.14.0 should be released in the very near future |
| carramba | for? |
| carramba | debian, ubuntu, fedora? I;ve them all |
| SlavekB | ...within a few days |
| Space_Man | except arch :( |
| SlavekB | Binary packages will initially be for Debian and Ubuntu. |
| carramba | slackware? :> |
| carramba | arch is bleeding egde, they do not cara about thet |
| carramba | arch is bleeding egde, they do not care about that |
| carramba | It woukd be very nice to see ports for slackaware, but You have to talk about it with Patrivk first I think |
| SlavekB | Especially for Arch, long time no one who would care about packages. |
| skrzyp | SlavekB: Why Arch can't got binary packages? |
| skrzyp | I like Arch. |
| skrzyp | I was loved that distro before migration on systemd. |
| carramba | its nice fast and almost stable |
| skrzyp | Without supporting switching to sysvinit/openrc officialy |
| skrzyp | carramba: Now it have good stability |
| SlavekB | As I wrote, there is nobody who would be taking care packages for Arch. |
| skrzyp | Better than some years ago |
| carramba | I wrote 'almost' ;p |
| carramba | like every one |
| carramba | ok, it is stable for most network servicec |
| carramba | services |
| skrzyp | Its stability depends of users |
| carramba | no, on administrators |
| carramba | Like I said, I'm drunk enough, to not to read me |
| carramba | but im glad to see, that someone is trying to keep kde3 working |
| carramba | except suse devs |
| carramba | good night :) |
| carramba | slax tde package? |
| carramba | I'v mde many changes to livekitlib. |
| carramba | http://flabra.mine.nu/ftp/unix/scripts/slax/livekitlib about 10k of bash code |
| carramba | with this slax works properly from pxe |
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| skrzyp | How can I make links clickable in TDE's Konsole? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2259 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2259 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Switching desktops shows panel in full screen |
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| Trinityfan | hi all |
| Trinityfan | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=41866&forumpage=33&PHPSESSID=ca03e058b90 |
| SlavekB | Trinityfan: Hi, you can fill packaging request on bugzilla. |
| Trinityfan | i'm not a developer and i don't know what bugzilla is |
| SlavekB | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/ |
| Trinityfan | could youb do that for me? |
| Trinityfan | it needs login and i'm not registered |
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| WhiteKIBA | Does Trinity need more mirrors? |
| WhiteKIBA | I am getting very low download speeds from the official servers |
| WhiteKIBA | ~15 kb/s |
| WhiteKIBA | I am using Trinity on some older machines and i have server wich could be used as mirrors |
| SlavekB | WhiteKIBA: This means that the package is not yet on the mirrors => you download from the master server, which has a narrow bandwidth. |
| WhiteKIBA | hm okay |
| WhiteKIBA | wich mirror should i use from germany? |
| WhiteKIBA | i am currently using http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/ as provided in the installation instructions |
| SlavekB | Here is list of mirrors. But right now is in sync, so not sure if packages are already on the mirror. |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/contributors.php |
| WhiteKIBA | i am on debian squeeze. very old packages. |
| WhiteKIBA | thanks |
| WhiteKIBA | Trinity r14 is on the german mirror. |
| WhiteKIBA | great |
| SlavekB | It is also available alternative apt source which is on stronger bandwidth... |
| WhiteKIBA | hm okay |
| WhiteKIBA | the german mirror is okay |
| WhiteKIBA | I am getting ~4 mb/s |
| WhiteKIBA | I could also mirror the packages in germany. if the devs are interested |
| WhiteKIBA | i have 2 machines with 1 Gbit available |
| SlavekB | The biggest problem is traditionally narrow bandwidth to the primary server. |
| WhiteKIBA | Dont make the primary server public |
| WhiteKIBA | provide a round robin DNS loadbalancing to the normal user |
| SlavekB | To my knowledge, all the mirrors are synchronized from the primary server. And some PPAs (such as nightly-builds) are not synchronized => are always from the primary server. |
| WhiteKIBA | yes |
| WhiteKIBA | but in the instructions they provide the primary server |
| WhiteKIBA | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall |
| WhiteKIBA | and i would set a DNS Record like mirror.trinitydesktop.org as a simple round robin DNS record |
| WhiteKIBA | containing all the mirrors |
| WhiteKIBA | so nobody would use the primary server and all the load is on the mirrors |
| SlavekB | Yes, but on master server is balancer. However, if requested packages are not available to the mirror, is downloaded from the master server. |
| SlavekB | When it was solved only on the basis of DNS, not treated the situation as it is now => when packages are now syncing, and not all mirrors are already complete. |
| WhiteKIBA | yes |
| WhiteKIBA | I dont want to argue against anyone here. Everyone here is doing a great job. I just wanted to help |
| SlavekB | Therefore is used redirector on the master server. |
| WhiteKIBA | If more mirrors are needed query me and i will happily provide 2 powerful machines |
| skrzyp | How can I make links clickable in TDE's Konsole? |
| Trinityfan | kommander? |
| WhiteKIBA | afaik this was not possible with KDE 3.5s konsole |
| skrzyp | ;< |
| WhiteKIBA | it appeared first somewhere in KDE 4.x |
| WhiteKIBA | afaik 4.2 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2260 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2260 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Tasty Menu |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2261 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2261 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , gnome-icon-theme icons do not appear correctly |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2262 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2262 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdepowersave provides no option to configure the system tray icon |
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| *** kb9vqf changes topic to "Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.0 is out [http://bit.ly/1zpkiVX]! Get it at http://www.trinitydesktop.org Also, consider joining the Trinity mailing lists [http://bit.ly/hZ83mF]. IRC will be most active/helpful during business hours in the USA. BOTW #??? Support the Project! [http://bit.ly/pmkMVB]" | |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2263 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2263 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] HTML5 DTD + full tagging support in Quanta |
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| dot|not | Is there any way of getting faster download speeds from the repository? 9 bytes per second is .. well, not even slow anymore. (If it's a server-bandwidth-problem I might be able to help out a bit.) |
| SlavekB | dot|not: You can use alternative apt source. |
| dot|not | Is there a list of mirrors anywhere? Wiki is quiet about that. |
| SlavekB | But it is a package compiled on another builder. |
| SlavekB | Or you could try to set apt directly to a specific mirror. |
| SlavekB | See http://www.trinitydesktop.org/contributors.php |
| dot|not | Thank you. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2264 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2264 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdefilereplace hangs and does not finish when replacing with multiple lines |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2265 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2265 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add ability to set signal/slot threading connection type |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2266 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2266 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KEdit: Cannot load shared library |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2267 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2267 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Quanta crashes when reloading/rescanning project over sftp |
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| stavartefakt | hola todos. |
| stavartefakt | sorry. hy everybody |
| stavartefakt | is anybody here? |
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| stavartefakt | well, guys; I have only one question: does anybody get worked desktop-integration of gtk3 apps in trinity? |
| stavartefakt | Seems nobody is here :( |
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| irz19 | Hello :-) |
| carramba | hi |
| irz19 | how are you? |
| carramba | drunk ;p |
| carramba | to be honest i''m a stranger here just like You |
| carramba | listening, but seem to be saturday, so noone cares about anything, but weekend |
| carramba | especially the last weekend before xmas |
| irz19 | I'm not a stranger, ppl just had suppressed me... |
| carramba | sorr, I;m a stranger :) |
| irz19 | I'm just trying to be polite. |
| irz19 | Has anyone experience with xcb? I'm a little bit lost... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2268 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2268 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [kaffeine] Missing 'pause' action - menu item, icon,... |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2268 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2268 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [kaffeine] Missing 'pause' action - menu item, icon,... |
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| stavartefakt | is there anybody alive here?)) |
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| |avalon| | hello, Sailors |
| |avalon| | greetings and salutations to who-ever had idea to fork kde3.5 |
| stav | hola |
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| stav | it seems there is nobody of developers here... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2269 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2269 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEW , [tdm] Wrong verification of the TDM control socket |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2269 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2251 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2251 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Circular dependency in tdepim |
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| alexandros_tab | hello, I am trying to install trinity desktop on arch but repo is timing out. Is ther another repo for arch? |
| carramba | I did not succed in installing tde under arch, may be I failed, but I thin arch is nt the best solution for tde |
| carramba | you know, beelding edge is not warkink sometimes |
| carramba | working |
| carramba | but I'm running it under fedora |
| carramba | which I think is a bit success :) |
| alexandros_tab | carramba: I am not even getting to the install, after put the repo address and trying to update it timed out trying to access the server. |
| carramba | another repo? |
| carramba | bad adddress? |
| alexandros_tab | I think so |
| alexandros_tab | what is the address of the arch repo? |
| alexandros_tab | the address I was trying to use is http://trinity.ceux.org/r14/x86_64 |
| carramba | 1803-46 < SlavekB> See http://www.trinitydesktop.org/contributors.php |
| carramba | maybe You'll find repo for arch |
| carramba | but do not trust arch :) |
| alexandros_tab | why don't you trust arch? |
| carramba | Yep, I did something: http://wklej.org/id/1565443/ :) new ntp without bug for suse :) |
| carramba | I'm a suse (from when it was not 'Open') user :) |
| carramba | and suse still maintain kde in theit repos |
| carramba | thei |
| carramba | their |
| SlavekB | Packages for Arch have a major flaw - lack of maintainer. |
| carramba | but i You want kde3 as tde, not very heavy, but nowadays light environment, You have to be patient :) |
| SlavekB | Forget the Arch repository that was available earlier - was unmaintained. |
| alexandros_tab | what happened to the arch maintainer? |
| alexandros_tab | what are the duties of a maintainer? |
| SlavekB | The original author is often a long time absent. |
| SlavekB | And I mean really long time - the latter appeared after about 1.5 year! |
| carramba | and it's reasonable, Arch is changing every day |
| SlavekB | At that time the development of TDE R14 was very active => packages needed to be updated frequently. |
| carramba | but not k/tde3 |
| carramba | Arch is not the best sistro for tde for the reason above, dependeciec |
| carramba | Arch is not the best sistro for tde for the reason above, dependecies |
| alexandros_tab | ok thanks |
| alexandros_tab | sorry to hear that |
| carramba | no it is just maintaining :) |
| alexandros_tab | are you in debian repos? |
| carramba | no I did not make any public repo for any distro |
| carramba | I just make pckages for my own |
| carramba | but |
| carramba | arch is bleeding edge |
| carramba | kde3 is a little bit old |
| carramba | so just other ways |
| alexandros_tab | I understand your position on arch, it is only reasonable |
| alexandros_tab | I have to go now will talk with you more late |
| alexandros_tab | Later |
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| carramba | msg for alexandros_tab: I'm a lazy admin :) |
| carramba | SlavekB, just one question, can be tde for F-20 recompled with a new 'sword', fedora has 1.7, but tde needs 1.6.xx |
| carramba | yum update --skip-broken is not convinient :) |
| SlavekB | AFAIK, François also working on packages for F20. |
| carramba | and for rhel/centos/oracle, the same thing, they upgraded sword |
| carramba | ? |
| SlavekB | Mail from François: |
| SlavekB | The RPM packages for R14 will be first available for: |
| SlavekB | - CentOS / RHEL 6 |
| SlavekB | - CentOS / RHEL 7 |
| SlavekB | - Fedora 20 |
| SlavekB | - Fedora 21 |
| SlavekB | - Mageia 4 |
| SlavekB | - openSUSE 13.1 |
| SlavekB | - openSUSE 13.2 |
| SlavekB | - PCLinuxOS |
| SlavekB | And, maybe in a second time: |
| SlavekB | - CentOS 5 (does not build currently because some new udisks related features cause FTBFS, as in openbsd) |
| SlavekB | - Fedora 19 |
| skrzyp | trolololOS |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 236 from CONFIRMED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=236 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, 15 minute appointments become 2 hours |
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| K`zan | Just FYI Guys, attempted to install on kubu 14.04: |
| K`zan | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| K`zan | /var/cache/apt/archives/kubuntu-default-settings-trinity_4%3a14.0.0-r1-0ubuntu14.04.0+pr32_all.deb |
| K`zan | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| K`zan | ------------ |
| K`zan | Will try it again next year :-). |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2270 filed by mummenschanz@gmx.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2270 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdelibs refuse to build with cups 2.0.1 |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2187 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2187 blocker, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdenetwork FTBFS on opensuse build service |
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| solar_sea | Congrats on the R14 release :) |
| solar_sea | I think I found an issue with the wm though and its handling of clicks. Where do I report it at ? |
| Space_Man | solar_sea: you could ask on the mailing lists or report is in the bug tracker http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net |
| Space_Man | http://bit.ly/hZ83mF --> https://www.trinitydesktop.org/mailinglist.php |
| solar_sea | Space_Man, thanks! I'm not particularly convinced about the issue so I though to come here and look for someone of the dev team |
| Space_Man | the only developer here is SlavekB but he recently disconnected, he'll be back sometime |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2271 filed by kshorg@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2271 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fast double clicks on a window's icon do not always close the window |
| solar_sea | that's me :) Nice bugzilla integration :D |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2270 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2270 critical, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , tdelibs refuses to build with cups 2.0.1 |
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| Arven | Wow, I didn't even notice the R14 release... awesome! |
| |avalon| | wow |
| |avalon| | that is new to me, too |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2272 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2272 normal, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , kabc -> tdeabc not automatically converted by R14 update script |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2273 filed by vvoodstock69@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2273 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Cannot mount LUKS Volume |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2270 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2270 critical, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, tdelibs refuses to build with cups 2.0.1 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2274 filed by debian@markus-raab.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2274 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Klipper tdeinit_klipper.so missing |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2274 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2275 filed by debian@markus-raab.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2275 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Config of action when hardware is plugged in |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2276 filed by debian@markus-raab.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2276 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Starting tdewalletmanager tries to write to /etc |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2245 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2245 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , conflict tdelibs-data-trinity × kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity during dist-upgrade |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2277 filed by ken@heard.name. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2277 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Dolphin crashes when trying to open a USB flash drive with ext2 file system |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2272 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2272 normal, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, kabc -> tdeabc not automatically converted by R14 update script |
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| Space_Man | yesterday I did "sudo apt-get autoremove" and now I have no sound and I have to startx to see the desktop |
| Space_Man | yesterdays apt-get history log http://paste.debian.net/hidden/07113be1/ |
| Space_Man | using ubuntu 14.04 and tde 14 |
| SlavekB | It seems that autoremove was too active. Try to fix it using: aptitude install tde-core-trinity --without-recommends |
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| Space_Man | SlavekB: thanks for your reply earlier today, I had to rush out and help a friend with a small problem!! |
| Space_Man | I had to install aptitude |
| Space_Man | after running "sudo aptitude install tde-core-trinity --without-recommends" it replies Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "tde-core-trinity" |
| SlavekB | You have set apt sources for trinity? |
| Space_Man | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu trusty main |
| Space_Man | 4 lines similar to that |
| SlavekB | oh, yeah, ubuntu. package tde-core-trinity is on Debian :) |
| SlavekB | try "sudo aptitude install tdebase-trinity" |
| Space_Man | it's installing some packages |
| Space_Man | kpager-trinity{a} kpersonalizer-trinity{a} ktip-trinity{a} libtqt3-integration-trinity{a} tdebase-trinity xcalib{a} |
| SlavekB | I hope that it should install basic TDE packages previously removed by autoremove. |
| Space_Man | they might have been installed earlier, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/1de823d8/ |
| Space_Man | I followed the directions on the trinity wiki "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity" |
| Space_Man | is startx the correct way to start the desktop from tty1? |
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| SlavekB | Now I've got a few hours away from the computer... |
| Space_Man | go and have some fun |
| SlavekB | thanks |
| irzs19 | so much snow... |
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| irzs19 | wb |
| Space_Man | thanks irzs19 |
| Space_Man | still no sound :( |
| Space_Man | or snow :) |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2245 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2245 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, conflict tdelibs-data-trinity × kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity during dist-upgrade |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2269 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2269 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, [tdm] Wrong verification of the TDM control socket |
| irzs19 | Space_Man: whats your Probleme with sound? |
| irzs19 | alsa, or pulseaudio? |
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| SlavekB | Space_Man: Are you member of group audio? |
| SlavekB | Space_Man: cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2278 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2278 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , network-manager-tde crashes on interface removal |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2279 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2279 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KPowersave not working at all |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2280 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2280 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , network-manager-tde connections lost after upgrade |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2281 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2281 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , GSM/GPRS/3G support broken in network-manager-tde |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2282 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2282 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , r14-xdg-update script does not update knotify.eventsrc |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2283 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2283 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , startkde was changed in knotify.eventsrc but not exitkde |
| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2283 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2251 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2251 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Circular dependency in tdepim |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 405 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=405 major, P2, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Adblock icons multiplying in Konqeuror |
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| tbottu | 10linux@rainbow-software.org changed the Status on bug 405 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=405 major, P2, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Adblock icons multiplying in Konqeuror |
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| AlexE | hello lifesavers :D |
| AlexE | i'm just about to install a new ssd and am gonna use tde as my primary desktop so had to drop in and say thanks everyone... |
| AlexE | well take care :D and happy new year |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2284 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2284 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Autostart Manager only supports $TDEHOME/Autostart |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2285 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2285 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE Bugzilla OS options need updating |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2286 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2286 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fedora 21: 'Keep password' check box is not available in tdesu dialog |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2287 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2287 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fedora 21: kwikdisk won't mount remote exports as non-root |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 355 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=355 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Kontact opens calendar to wrong day |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1783 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1783 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Broken Packages |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2288 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2288 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kate deletes files from the MRU |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2273 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2273 critical, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Cannot mount LUKS Volume |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2278 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2278 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, network-manager-tde crashes on interface removal |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2279 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2279 critical, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , KPowersave not working at all |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2279 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2279 critical, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, KPowersave not working at all |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2289 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2289 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KCrash when opening GTK3 apps |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2290 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2290 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Switch User menu option not available with other login managers |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2291 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2291 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fedora 21: Amarok won't stream |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2286 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2286 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , Fedora 21: 'Keep password' check box is not available in tdesu dialog |
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| SexIsBad4TheBone | hello there |
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| SexIsBad4TheBone | i downloaded debian wheezy with trinity desktop environment, but there is a password for the live cd, any know this password? |
| SexIsBad4TheBone | it has default login "user" but pw "user" not logging me in |
| SexIsBad4TheBone | just enter works not too |
| SlavekB | This is ExeGNU/Linux? |
| SexIsBad4TheBone | yes r14 |
| SlavekB | Strange - according to the description I had considered that on the LiveCD password is not set. |
| SexIsBad4TheBone | hm maybe i make smth wrong then, i try reboot |
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| SexIsBad4TheBone | indeed, password is presetted and i made the tile blank now iam in, hope with installation i can change the password |
| SlavekB | By the way, ExeGNU/Linux with TDE R14 for Wheezy is based on a nightly-builds - I suggest you to re-configure apt sources to stable TDE. |
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| SexIsBad4TheBone | stable TDE? is this this one here? |
| SexIsBad4TheBone | http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/wheezy/exegnulinux_4.2.iso |
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| SlavekB | This is with TDE 3.5.13.x. |
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| SlavekB | I believe that ISO with stable R14.0.0 is not yet available. |
| SexIsBad4TheBone | ok i use the adviced one, thanks u SlavekB |
| SlavekB | Try to use ISO that you have, but rewrite TDE apt sources from nightly-builds to stable. |
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| SexIsBad4TheBone | installation succeded thanks to help me |
| SlavekB | You're welcome. |
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| SexIsBad4TheBone | helle, now scince debian wheezy tde is installed i woukld like to access the internet via PPPOE connection, where i set it pls? |
| SlavekB | I'm not sure if this type of connection is supported in tdenetworkmanager. |
| SexIsBad4TheBone | i dont found it there, guess u right |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2292 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2292 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fedora 21: trinity-kmrml package does not include gift as a dependency |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2293 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2293 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Unregistered media type |
| carramba | "Anyone who even once bought a piece of furniture from Ikea, understand why the Swedes have no space program." (google translator) |
| carramba | best New Year :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2294 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2294 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fedora 21: TDE file associations for *.desktop files are lost in non TDE desktops |
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| irzs19 | Happy new year :-) |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1907 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1907 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Kate: add "Delete line" command to "Edit" menu |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2014 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2014 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, v14.0.0 official bug list (meta-bug) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2295 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2295 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fedora 21: Cannot view showfoto.png images |
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| mirda | hello, happy new year and congratulations to release TDE R14 |
| mirda | i am installing R14 on clean wheezy install now but apt-get is getting 403 forbidden for many packages from TDE |
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| mirda | it works after a second try |
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| mirda | and now repository is unreachable |
| mirda | i am thinking what connection manager choose, either wicd or network manager or something other |
| mirda | *to choose |
| SlavekB | mirda: Ahoj |
| SlavekB | Offcial R14.0.0 repository or alternative preliminary-stable-builds? |
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| mirda | he is off.. i was afk.. https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall //wheezy R14 repository from that page |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2296 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2296 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kate/TDevelop: undo does not restore unmodified state correctly after the first time. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2297 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2297 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE provides no method to disable or ignore autostart apps |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2298 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2298 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Provide support in TDM for Pre/Post Session scripts |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2299 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2299 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE disables messaging in konsole |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1911 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1911 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Kate: add option to suppress 'Find in files' error dialog |
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| tbottu | 10pfrederick1@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 1375 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1375 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , Not processed BACKGROUND, FOREGROUND, etc. colors in Xrdb and cause git gui to fail. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2300 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2300 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Enhancement: Add PSION-style double click |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2301 filed by Murphy.Gebert@gmx.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2301 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , twin/compton-tde does not compile without OpenGL support |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2302 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2302 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add file types to kate ini.xml syntax highlighting |
| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2302 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2301 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2301 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , twin/compton-tde does not compile without OpenGL support |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2303 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2303 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] Remove OASIS reference from Save As dialogs |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2304 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2304 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KMail enters auto-check loop after disabling auto-check |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2305 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2305 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KMail freezes within seconds |
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| graham_g | hello i would like help installing TDE on fedora 21 |
| graham_g | ? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2306 filed by steffen.thus@web.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2306 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Digikam trinity |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2215 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2215 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, libr0 bug causes FTBFS when build is in different filesystem than /tmp |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2307 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2307 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , K3B crashes when trying to write an audio CD with cd text |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1583 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1583 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , [Regression] krfb swap mouse buttons |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2308 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2308 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdevelop cannot create CMake hello world project |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2309 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2309 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdevelop should offer GIT SCM option |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2310 filed by kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2310 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdevelop C++ Autotools Hello World project does not build |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2311 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2311 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kdesktop locks up |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 1583 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1583 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] krfb swap mouse buttons |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2180 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2180 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , krdc: The connection to the host has been interrupted. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2312 filed by ebay.will.hillnotes@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2312 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kpilot fails on start. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2313 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2313 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Improve filter plugin for Konqueror |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 146 from CONFIRMED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=146 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, KDE file filter bar doesn't refresh properly |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 146 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=146 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , KDE file filter bar doesn't refresh properly |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 146 from REOPENED to ASSIGNED. |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2309 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2309 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , tdevelop should offer GIT SCM option |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2314 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2314 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Wiki says R14 release notes are "forthcoming" |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2314 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2314 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Wiki says R14 release notes are "forthcoming" |
| tbottu | 10mgb-trinity@yosemite.net changed the Status on bug 2314 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2314 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, VERIFIED FIXED, Wiki says R14 release notes are "forthcoming" |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 146 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=146 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Konqueror file filter bar doesn't refresh properly |
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| MicheleC | Hi, just testing out |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2301 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2301 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , twin/compton-tde does not compile without OpenGL support |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2301 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2301 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , twin/compton-tde does not compile without OpenGL support |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2315 filed by dan@homestead-products.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2315 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kpdf "forgets" a page as soon as no longer displayed, has to re-render to display it again |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2316 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2316 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , knotify crash |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2317 filed by davecurrier@frontiernet.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2317 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ksplash-engine-moodin-trinity System Services and Restoring Session icons / descriptions not displayed |
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| SlavekB | MicheleC: hi :) |
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| Borg^Queen | hello people |
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| Borg^Queen | hi |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2000 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2000 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Build issue: kvirc FTBFS |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2318 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2318 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add "applications:" button to Konqueror side bar |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2273 from ASSIGNED to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2273 critical, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, NEW , Add support for LUKS in next TDE minor release |
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| mimamau | hi, im trying to install tde on a fresh ubuntu 14.10, i followed the instructions on the wiki, but theres no package named kubuntu-desktop-trinity, so what are the right packages to do a fresh install? |
| Borg^Queen | did you make sure you have the repo correct? |
| mimamau | yes, did apt-get update |
| Borg^Queen | I think you have to add new ones or something like that. The best thing to do is to ask on the forum. |
| Borg^Queen | well yes, but I mean did you add the reps to your package manager. |
| mimamau | yes, i added the four lines for utopic (ubuntu 14.10) |
| Borg^Queen | hang on I'll see if I can find something about it |
| Borg^Queen | and nothing shows up? |
| mimamau | maybe the wiki is outdated |
| mimamau | i have tinity packages, but not kubuntu-desktop-trinity |
| Borg^Queen | maybe checking |
| Borg^Queen | I'm assuming you went here |
| Borg^Queen | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instructions#For_Utopic_.28Ubuntu_14.10.29 |
| Borg^Queen | if so, then you need to ask in the forum. |
| mimamau | yes, ok thx |
| Borg^Queen | Sorry |
| Borg^Queen | I don't use ubuntus so I'm not familiar enough to help with their packagers |
| SlavekB | The package should certainly be part of the apt source - indeed see: |
| SlavekB | http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kubuntu-meta-trinity/ |
| Borg^Queen | thank you SlavekB |
| SlavekB | Oh, I see - there is missing version for Ubuntu 14.10! |
| Borg^Queen | oooh |
| SlavekB | Ok, instead of official sources you can use an alternative apt source 'preliminary-stable-builds'. |
| SlavekB | Add to your sources.list: |
| SlavekB | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb utopic deps-r14 main-r14 |
| SlavekB | Here are the packages present - see: |
| SlavekB | http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb/pool/main-r14/k/kubuntu-meta-trinity/ |
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| mimamau | thx SlavekB |
| BQ-AFK | bbl |
| BQ-AFK | sorry I wasn't of much help mimamau |
| mimamau | having diner now and try later |
| BQ-AFK | later |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2000 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2000 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kvirc FTBFS |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2319 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2319 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Protocol section is not populated in the Help system |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2319 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2319 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , [Regression] Protocol section is not populated in the Help system |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2320 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2320 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] KHelpCenter opens pages at the top heading rather than top of the page |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2023 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2023 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , Screen saver does not stop when using krdc |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2321 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2321 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [TDEFileReplace] Add possibility to sort columns by double clicking on their headers |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2322 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2322 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [TDEFileReplace] Open file with double click or Enter |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2323 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2323 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , VNC does not correctly display mouse pointer |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2319 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2319 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Protocol section is not populated in the Help system |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2321 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2321 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , [TDEFileReplace] Add possibility to sort columns by double clicking on their headers |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2321 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2321 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, [TDEFileReplace] Add possibility to sort columns by double clicking on their headers |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2322 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2322 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , [TDEFileReplace] Open file with double click or Enter |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2322 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2322 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [TDEFileReplace] Open file with double click or Enter |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2324 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2324 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Delete tdeio_iso.desktop |
| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2324 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2325 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2325 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Delete k3b-iso.desktop |
| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2325 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2324 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2324 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Delete tdeio_iso.desktop |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2326 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2326 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Delete double Cervisia menu entry in konqueror 'Open With' menu |
| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2326 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2327 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2327 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add konqueror service menu actions |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2004 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2004 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , some icons not shown due to not compatiable with "libpng-1.6" in Fedora 20 |
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| K`zan | Hi folks, just installed TDE on my ubu 14.04 lappy, get the following messages and google is no help. Appreciate thoughts: |
| K`zan | could not start tdestartupconfig |
| K`zan | could not start tdeinit |
| K`zan | Permissions look good, out of ideas here. |
| K`zan | TMIA! |
| K`zan | Installed from directions on Trinity site... |
| K`zan | Oh, the above bounces me back to login and I have to go back to kde4 (ugh, rech,loathe :-)). |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2255 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2255 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , r14-xdg-update script does not convert *.ics files |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2328 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2328 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fix KDE->TDE branding in error dialog |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 767 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=767 enhancement, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEFilereplace: move to tdeutils or tdebase |
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| tbottu | 10matrixx-trinity@underald.net changed the Component on bug 698 from non-core programs to tdenetwork. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=698 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kopete jabber protocol outdated |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2329 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2329 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fedora 21: Cannot use TLS with kmail |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2330 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2330 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE NM Backend ERROR |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2328 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2328 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Fix KDE->TDE branding in error dialog |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2331 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2331 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Drop kerry support or maintain obsolete beagle sources |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Landscape PDF printed as portrait (and truncated) |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2325 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2325 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Delete k3b-iso.desktop |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2332 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2332 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] Symlink CentOS backgrounds to TDE |
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| edess | hello |
| edess | i have a problem trying to install TDE in pclinuxos |
| edess | i.ve added the repo correctly, and when i try to install tde-desktop meta package ,synaptic gives me this : |
| edess | trinity-desktop: |
| edess | Depends: trinity-tdebindings (>= 3.5.13.2) |
| edess | any help wpuld be appreciated. thanks |
| edess | would* |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1238 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1238 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , TDEFileReplace: add a maxdepth option |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2197 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2197 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Circular dependency in tdepim |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2301 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2301 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, twin/compton-tde does not compile without OpenGL support |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1238 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1238 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEFileReplace: add a maxdepth option |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 283 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=283 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED , search field in KDE main menu is slow |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2333 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2333 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEFileReplace: add user action to clear the search result list |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2334 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2334 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEFileReplace: remember search and replace strings in dialog |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 767 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=767 enhancement, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , TDEFilereplace: move to tdeutils or tdebase |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2335 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2335 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Korganizer crashes when removing a period TODO |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 767 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=767 enhancement, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEFilereplace: move to tdeutils or tdebase |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2336 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2336 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Trinity loses mouse pointer |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2337 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2337 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEFileReplace crashes when adding/removing commands to the toolbar |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2338 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2338 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEFileReplace: Does not display line breaks in Search or Replace text box widgets |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1238 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1238 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , TDEFileReplace: add a maxdepth option |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2322 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2322 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , [TDEFileReplace] Open file with double click or Enter |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2322 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2322 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, [TDEFileReplace] Open file with double click or Enter |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2339 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2339 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEFileReplace regex support needs improvements |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2326 from PATCHAVAIL to CONFIRMED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2326 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED , Delete double Cervisia menu entry in konqueror 'Open With' menu |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2340 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2340 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , /opt/trinity/bin/krfb_httpd: line 8: read: read error: 0: Connection reset by peer |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1238 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1238 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEFileReplace: add a maxdepth option |
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| Arven | There's a timeout which seems to trip on startup all the time, preventing kdesktop from starting properly. |
| Arven | It seems to be located in https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/tree/tdeio/tdeio/slave.cpp |
| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Component on bug 2264 from tdewebdev to tdeutils. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2264 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] tdefilereplace hangs and does not finish when replacing with multiple lines |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2341 filed by brian.johnathan.b@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2341 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , The process for the protocol died unexpectedly |
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| Arven | what's the url to the actual public repo? |
| Arven | http://pastebin.com/zTSCr6pJ |
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| SlavekB | Arven: try clone from TDE scm git clone https://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tdelibs |
| Arven | SlavekB: thanks |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2342 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2342 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Amarok stops podcasts after pausing |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2264 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2264 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, NEEDINFO , [Regression] tdefilereplace hangs and does not finish when replacing with multiple lines |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2343 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2343 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , CentOS dependency upgrade causes conflict |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2344 filed by pix3l@katamail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2344 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE 14 hangs on exit |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2264 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2264 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] tdefilereplace hangs and does not finish when replacing with multiple lines |
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| tbottu | 10krisgamrat@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 1309 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1309 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Kopete Jabber protocol can't be loaded |
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| mr_chris | How do you change the position of libnotify popups? I'd like to move it from the bottom right to the top right. |
| mr_chris | I see that notification-daemon-tde has the option to use a separate config but I'm having difficult find its default config. Is this a setting somewhere in Trinity or does it have to be configured via config file? |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2334 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2334 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEFileReplace: remember search and replace strings in dialog |
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| dan_san_1985 | hi there |
| dan_san_1985 | your desktop is awesome |
| dan_san_1985 | thank you for all the work |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2345 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2345 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TQObject::activate_signal |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2123 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2123 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , /tmp/tdesocket-global is hard-coded |
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| puto | the tqt gtk3 theme thing isn't working; when I try to use it, GTK3 apps show a black screen with no alignment anywhere and I get something like this in the terminal |
| puto | (evince:7294): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk.css:4:14: Theming engine 'tdegtk' not found |
| puto | tried copying libtdegtk.so over to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/ but it doesn't seem to do anything |
| puto | running ubuntu 14.10 btw, for what it's worth |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2346 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2346 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , soundserver repeatedly crashing |
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| tbottu | 10krisgamrat@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 2343 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2343 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, CentOS dependency upgrade causes conflict |
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| |avalon| | hi, ppl |
| |avalon| | i just wanted to inform you |
| |avalon| | that there is some... bugs i guess with fedora 19 |
| |avalon| | sword is not anymore packaged separately from libsword |
| |avalon| | so trinity-bibletime complain about dependancies |
| |avalon| | rpm -i --nodeps solve this |
| |avalon| | i mean... rpm -i --nodeps path-or-url-to-trinity-bibletime |
| |avalon| | and this had to be done before |
| |avalon| | yum -y install trinity-desktop-all |
| |avalon| | for example |
| |avalon| | dont know about other virtual packages, which one includes bibletime |
| |avalon| | and, I am getting lot of error messages about invalid MIME type |
| |avalon| | if you want, |
| |avalon| | yum reinstall trinity |
| |avalon| | with tee'd output to log |
| |avalon| | is at least i can do... |
| |avalon| | Kernel version: 3.14.27-100.fc19.x86_64 |
| |avalon| | ugh |
| |avalon| | Distro: Fedora 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) |
| |avalon| | "at least i can do... " "... to help you, so far" ;) |
| SlavekB | |avalon|: Please, can you fill bug on bugzilla? |
| |avalon| | ok, i'll do my best |
| |avalon| | ok, removing |
| |avalon| | reinstalling, to be precise |
| |avalon| | i guess log output will be more from use than if i make complete confusion |
| |avalon| | with my detailed reports hahah |
| |avalon| | scribomany, in a moments.... ;) |
| |avalon| | also, |
| |avalon| | can this: |
| |avalon| | Error in file "/opt/trinity/share/applications/kde/kfontview.desktop |
| |avalon| | be maybe because of some conflicts with kde4 ? |
| |avalon| | i never use it, but i use some programs that depends on its libraries |
| |avalon| | if you still think that it is not conflict with kde4, i'll paste log on bugzilla |
| |avalon| | just dont want to be some trivial |
| |avalon| | and actually not a bug in software, but in my head |
| |avalon| | :> |
| |avalon| | what bugzilla client do you recomend? |
| wsky | firefox? |
| |avalon| | nope, not browser |
| |avalon| | and firefox definitely, when talkin about browsers ;) |
| |avalon| | however, it is still on 230/429 |
| |avalon| | in removing... |
| |avalon| | it will take a time |
| |avalon| | SlavekB, where should I put this? |
| |avalon| | fedora directory server or tde ? |
| SlavekB | tde |
| |avalon| | well, i guess first |
| |avalon| | oh |
| |avalon| | ok |
| |avalon| | 3.5.13 or 3.5.13.2, is it matter ? how to check ? |
| |avalon| | found, never mind |
| SlavekB | Use Help / About Trinity |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2347 filed by danilo.bogdanov@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2347 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Merged packages in fedora 19, bibletime fails to install |
| |avalon| | i believe i missed a title |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2348 filed by danilo.bogdanov@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2348 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Lot of errors about invalid MIME type's and / or an unregistered media type |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2349 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2349 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Trinity does not recover correctly from DPMS |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2327 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2327 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , Add konqueror service menu actions |
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| puto | <puto> the tqt gtk3 theme thing isn't working; when I try to use it, GTK3 apps show a black screen with no alignment anywhere and I get something like this in the terminal |
| puto | <puto> (evince:7294): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk.css:4:14: Theming engine 'tdegtk' not found |
| puto | <puto> tried copying libtdegtk.so over to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/ but it doesn't seem to do anything |
| puto | <puto> running ubuntu 14.10 btw, for what it's worth |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2347 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2347 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Merged packages in fedora 19, bibletime fails to install |
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| tbottu | 10danilo.bogdanov@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 2347 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2347 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Merged packages in fedora 19, bibletime fails to install |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2350 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2350 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Display corruption in various applications, depending on GTK settings |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2351 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2351 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Convert existing bluecurve window border theme |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2352 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2352 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kcontrol styles should be easier to use |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2353 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2353 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Quicklauncher should allow changing the icons for applications |
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| carlo85 | hi |
| carlo85 | anyone here? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2354 filed by assolutooccidentale@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2354 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE fails to recognie screensavers |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2355 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2355 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , When changing TDE menu icon, it should show current |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2356 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kalarm possibly confused whether to use .trinity or .kde |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2357 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2357 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , When window group calls attention, should indicate which window |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2358 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2358 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , wordnet fails on TDE but works on Cinnamon |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2359 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2359 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE twin 'Detect window properties' should also detect owner |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2360 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2360 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Setting window shortcut should be faster |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2361 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2361 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , should be an option to 'deactivate and lower' window |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2362 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2362 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , konsole keeps forgetting settings->bell->system bell |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2363 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2363 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KAlarm should have option to list 'displaying' alarms |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2364 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2364 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KAlarm should have option to hide disabled alarms |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2365 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2365 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [stdout/stderr] KMail: TQSplitter::panner |
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| K`zan | Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net trusty/main Sources |
| K`zan | 509 Maximum Instantaneous Bandwidth Exceeded |
| K`zan | :-) |
| K`zan | and on and on... |
| K`zan | Keep up the great work folks :-)! |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2366 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2366 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add style support to KSysGuard |
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| beepie | hi |
| beepie | there instructions to install trinity? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2367 filed by westlake2012@videotron.ca. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2367 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , package libical1 renamed to libical1a |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2367 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2367 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , package libical1 renamed to libical1a |
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| -sinisalo.freenode.net- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2368 filed by pix3l@katamail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2368 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kcalc: error while loading shared libraries: libtdeinit_kcalc.so |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2368 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2368 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , kcalc: error while loading shared libraries: libtdeinit_kcalc.so |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 1610 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1610 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , KAlarm takes a long time to start the first time |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2369 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2369 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [stdout/stderr] k3b: tdecore (TDEAction): WARNING |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2370 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2370 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Installed WINE not detected by Control Center module |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2371 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2371 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Image Index Control Center module can't find needed utilities in CentOS |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2372 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2372 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kprinter dialog not displayed when used in another application |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2373 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2373 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Disabling display power management disables the screen saver |
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| beggleston | Hello all. |
| beggleston | Is there anyone out there who is an arch user? |
| beggleston | Does anyone happen to know of any functional ArchLinux repositories for Trinity? |
| beggleston | I love the DE, but I can't seem to find the appropriate addresses that currently work... |
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| Shazam76 | Good morning, folks. |
| Shazam76 | are there any arch linux users here? |
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| NickStone | anyone here? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2374 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2374 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdenetworkmanager provides no icon indicator when connected to a VPN |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2375 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2375 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Cannot change advanced permissions with tdesu konqueror |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2376 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2376 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE reverted to CDE theme after update |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2376 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2376 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDE reverted to CDE theme after update |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2377 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2377 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] KMyFirewall ip6tables support |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2378 filed by mrmazda@earthlink.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2378 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , eliminate displayed redundance when only one control module is displayed |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2167 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2167 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE Session Manager crashes frequently |
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| solar_sea | Hi. I've installed r14 on a amd64 debian wheezy and I have this weird, noise-like background in konqueror's file panes |
| solar_sea | I don't remember seeing it, is this expected behavior ? |
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| ItalianMatefancl | hi all |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1 from ASSIGNED to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, NEW , Landscape PDF printed as portrait (and truncated) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2379 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2379 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kommander crash when trying to run the attached script |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2380 filed by adam@chyla.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2380 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ksquirrel-trinity dependencies |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2381 filed by adam@chyla.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2381 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Qt4 TDE theme - broken numeric entry |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2382 filed by adam@chyla.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2382 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Qt4 TDE theme - bad alternating row colors |
| tbottu | 10adam@chyla.org changed the Status on bug 2382 from NEW --- to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2382 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, Qt4 TDE theme - bad alternating row colors |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2383 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2383 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Incorrect font rendering in KPDF |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2384 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2384 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Implement a quality assurance testing strategy for TDE releases |
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| Konomi | hey trying to install trinity on jessie doesn't seem to work |
| Konomi | binutils libical1 and perl seem to be newer than what the trinity repos can handle |
| Konomi | think I found an answer trying it |
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| Konomi | http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2367 <- solved using this repo instead |
| tbottu | 04Bug 2367: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , package libical1 renamed to libical1a |
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| Konomi | hey does anyone know how to make the TaskBar Icons in Trinity as large as the launcher ones? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2385 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2385 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , GTK3 Style Engine does not honor gtk-primary-button-warps-slider=0 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2386 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2386 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fedora 21: Cannot suspend to RAM with keyboard or lid while TDEPowersave is running |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2387 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2387 normal, P5, ---, darrella, NEW , Fedora 21: Password unlocking required when restoring from suspend to RAM |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2388 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2388 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , GTK3 fonts do not render correctly in TDE |
| wsky | .17 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2389 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2389 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add systemd-inhibit support in k3b |
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| Matefan | hi all |
| Matefan | what do you think about cairo composite manger in TDE?is it possible_ |
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| Richard82 | hi all |
| Richard82 | SlavekB, may I please ask you to tell me if "ExeGnuLinux" (Jessie) is 32 or 64 bit? There is no such information on the whole website |
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| SlavekB | ExeGnuLinux from 20141125 uses linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae. |
| SlavekB | so it is 32 bit |
| Richard82 | damn :-( |
| Richard82 | can I install trinity without any hassle if I download debian JESSiE (64 bit) ? |
| Richard82 | or would you recommend Ubuntu over Debian? |
| SlavekB | You can use minimal Jessie installation CD. |
| Richard82 | but I could also use the "normal" CD and install KDE 4 and Trinity side-by-side, right? |
| SlavekB | With minimal installation cd you can install a bare base system, then simply add the apt sources Trinity and continue the installation. |
| SlavekB | Yes, if you want both, you can use a normal cd. |
| Richard82 | my only internet connection is WIFI, I am afraid I would not be able to connect to the internet by doing this |
| Richard82 | great |
| Richard82 | OK I will use the normal CD then, and come back if there is any problem |
| Richard82 | thank you so far :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2390 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2390 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Need to patch qt3/tqt3 for security: CVE-2015-0295 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2390 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2390 blocker, P1, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , Need to patch qt3/tqt3 for security: CVE-2015-0295 |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2386 from NEW --- to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2386 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Fedora 21: Cannot suspend to RAM with keyboard or lid while TDEPowersave is running |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2391 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2391 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEPowersave provides no notifications with low battery |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2392 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fedora 21 does not fully recognize ogg files |
| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Component on bug 2387 from slackware to fedora. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2387 normal, P5, ---, darrella, NEW , Fedora 21: Password unlocking required when restoring from suspend to RAM |
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| * strangelv looks around for someone who knows of upgrade instructions that don't just say to use aptitude and assume that one knows how to USE aptitude. Aptitude just gives him flashbocks to dselect. He never bothered to learn anything other that apt | |
| strangelv | There's mention of upgrading core packages, but they 'ren',t listed and I don't quite have them all memorized |
| SlavekB | aptitude can be used by the same way as apt-get. |
| strangelv | The drections call for interactive mode |
| SlavekB | apt-get update => aptitude update |
| SlavekB | apt-get upgrade => aptitude upgrade |
| SlavekB | apt-get dist-upgrade => aptitude dist-upgrade |
| strangelv | root@merkin:~# aptitude dist-upgrade |
| strangelv | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. |
| SlavekB | aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade && aptitude clean |
| SlavekB | ;) |
| strangelv | Is there a test to see if I'wve succeeded before rebooting? |
| strangelv | Sorry I've not been here for awhile. Distractions. |
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| SlavekB | What is updated? For example, you can simply try to run TDM and log in. |
| Strangelv | Finally upgrading to 14 from 13.2 after my system spontaniously shut hown a couple of hours ago after 2 months of uptime |
| Strangelv | Running TDM and logging in sounds like what happens after rebooting. I'm on the machine that I'm updating |
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| SlavekB | By the way, you are updated to the official R14.0.0 or to preliminary R14.0.1? |
| Strangelv | My guess is 14.0.0 |
| * Strangelv : deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu precise main | |
| SlavekB | Preliminary R14.0.1 are still only on my alternative apt source... |
| Strangelv | Is there a reason I should consider 14.0.1 instead? |
| SlavekB | There are already a number of smaller and larger fixes. |
| Strangelv | "And it's pretty stable? |
| SlavekB | You used my ppa 'axis' for TDE 3.5.13? |
| Strangelv | "I believe so |
| Strangelv | I've been using your repository since before your 13.1 became official. Back when officially there was never going to be a 13.1 |
| SlavekB | So know that it's very similar with R14.0.x preliminary packages :) |
| Strangelv | #deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu precise main |
| Strangelv | Which until an hourish ago was not commented out |
| Strangelv | ...? Use that one? |
| SlavekB | Yes, this was valid for 3.5.13.x. |
| Strangelv | Then dist-upgrade again? |
| Strangelv | Is there a list of core packages somewhereL I hmay have entered them all but may still be missing one |
| SlavekB | For R14.0.x will be new PPA. However, currently are R14.0.x preliminary packages on my alternative apt source. |
| Strangelv | What's the URL to put in sources.list? |
| SlavekB | You can use: |
| SlavekB | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb precise deps-r14 main-r14 |
| Strangelv | danke |
| SlavekB | In addition, you can use apt source for LibreOffice with TDE integration: |
| SlavekB | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/libreoffice-tde-sb precise main |
| Strangelv | I typed in update too soon, obviously. 8) DOes this make LibreaOffice usable again? |
| SlavekB | Ah, sorry, LibreOffice is only for Debian Wheezy and Ubuntu Trusty. |
| Strangelv | Gnumeric imposes a very bizzare workflow if you're wvorking with csv files |
| Strangelv | I've been pondering when to upgrade from 14.04 to something else. Possibly Mint. |
| Strangelv | Not today though. I probably shouldn't have attempted the TDE upgrade either |
| Strangelv | But it would be hard to find a better time |
| Strangelv | I wasn't in the middle of something important when my system went down |
| SlavekB | The advantage is that my alternative apt source is on the mirror with faster access than the build-farm :) |
| Strangelv | At the moment it's not wanting to upgrade anything with aptitude or apt-get dist-upgrade. I don't see your erpository in the error list eacther after entering update. Trying again |
| Strangelv | "okay, I forgot to type in sudo when editidng from my non-root console tab |
| SlavekB | apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-key A04BE668 |
| Strangelv | danke |
| Strangelv | Given changes in the recent security environment I need to take that more seriously |
| Strangelv | Now wants to upgrade 227 packages. Better. 8) |
| SlavekB | ...and the next updates is being build :) |
| Strangelv | Something to help me remember to do a dist-upgrade again sometime soonish. As always, many thanks! |
| SlavekB | I assume that the update will be available within one or two days. |
| Strangelv | I have a friend who's still running Meerkat, but the machine is in storage at the moment. |
| Strangelv | So she can't update it right now |
| Strangelv | I suspect she's also still running 13.0 |
| Strangelv | attempting to reboot... |
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| strangelv | My system appears to have survived the transition |
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| SlavekB | :) |
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| rose__ | help |
| wsky | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9O3ck9b6Q |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2393 filed by cetinv@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2393 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , knetstats wrong statistics |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2393 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2393 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, knetstats wrong statistics |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2394 filed by mgb-trinity@yosemite.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2394 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Trash older than one week deleted on kmail exit |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2395 filed by pix3l@katamail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2395 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kmines: command not found |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2395 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2395 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , kmines: command not found |
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| tbottu | 10ac586133@hotmail.com changed the Status on bug 2376 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2376 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE reverted to CDE theme after update |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2396 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2396 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDM is not capable of starting Unity |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2306 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2306 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Digikam trinity |
| Strangelv | Complication: setting date and time localization settings in the control center has no impact on Thunderbird. Thinderlbirld looks for an environment variable |
| Strangelv | /me : root@merkin:~# LC_TIME=en_GB |
| Strangelv | /me : -su: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (en_GB): No such file or directory |
| Strangelv | /me : [Installs tde-i18n-engb-trinity] |
| Strangelv | /me : root@merkin:~# LC_TIME=en_GB |
| Strangelv | /me : -su: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (en_GB) |
| * Strangelv wonders how he managed to get lme displayed rather than used | |
| Strangelv | There may be a bug report herle somewhere, but I'm not sure what to say in it. |
| * Strangelv presumes a bug report for Trinity will go better than the one he filed for Firefox, which seemed to translate to 'we like our bugs and we really enjoy insulting people who don't like them' | |
| Strangelv | ... as well as that we should tnever trust what a menu item or message in Firefox says |
| * Strangelv needs a migration path from Firefox for this reason and the fact that it's turning into Chrome. If he wanted to use Chrome he'd use Chrome. | |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2397 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2397 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Fedora 21: Keyboard shortcuts for screen brightness do not work |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2398 filed by peter.lemken@linbit.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2398 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , System Guard does not show network speed |
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| rose_ | help me ! |
| rose_ | now remove trinity-desktop back to default ubuntu 14.10 ? |
| rose_ | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| rose_ | konqueror-trinity |
| rose_ | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| rose_ | help me ! |
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| rose_ | heeeeeeeeelp meeeeee !!!!1 |
| rose_ | ??? |
| mirda | rose_: check logs |
| mirda | /var/log/dpkg.log |
| mirda | or files in /var/log/apt/ |
| rose_ | mirda, ???? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2399 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2399 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror crash when clicking a .iso file |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2400 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2400 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror incorrectly sorts numbers in Alphabetical sorting |
| * Strangelv hmms | |
| Strangelv | In certian contexts, this is the expected behavior. This might be classifiable as a feature request. |
| Strangelv | Then again, I seem to remember the behavior being expected is consistent with what is done by Gwenview |
| Strangelv | But I could be mistaken |
| Strangelv | It might be of volue to make a control to switch between Kristopher's requested sorting method and the more traditional 'dumb' sorting |
| Strangelv | As there are use cases calling out for both |
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| Strangelv | [20:40:11] Mike Delaney: ok, let me make another attempt at getting a decent version of linux running |
| Strangelv | [20:40:24] James Gholston: Which ones are you looking into? |
| Strangelv | [21:06:13] Mike Delaney: variations of TDE, they really need to do a TDE-CentOS live disc |
| Strangelv | [21:08:41] James Gholston: That's a thought, but probabyl the biggest priority is getting added to Debian |
| Strangelv | [21:09:21] James Gholston: I wonder who I know in teh project would know enough about CentOS to try that |
| Strangelv | [21:11:19] Mike Delaney: I installed CentOS 7 and installed TDE 14 in it, but some aspects were a bit pokey |
| Strangelv | [21:12:34] Mike Delaney: they're also a generation behind on Fedora Core |
| Strangelv | [21:12:50] James Gholston: hmm |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2401 filed by gdr+tde@courtfields.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2401 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kmail "about" info obsolete. |
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| astrodog | Wondering if someone has a moment to explain how tdelibs (and kssl) are linking against OpenSSL? |
| * Strangelv looks around | |
| Strangelv | Might need ot send that in an email to one of the lists |
| astrodog | Strange: I'm helping someone with a FreeBSD port... and it's not exactly clear how it finds and uses the OpenSSL libs. Since there's base OpenSSL, plus the one from ports, we're trying to figure out how to get it to choose correctly. |
| Strangelv | Unfortunately, I seem to be the only other person here, and your guess is better than mine what the answer is as this is outside of my area. |
| Strangelv | Sorry about that |
| astrodog | So it goes. Any nicks I should watch for? |
| Strangelv | SlavekB, XuR, and whatewver handle Timothy Pearson uses. I've focgotten what it is. |
| Strangelv | "He's not logged in tight now |
| Strangelv | Wait. It's probably this: kb9vqf |
| astrodog | Ah. Radio handle? |
| Strangelv | "There's sewvecral other,s but those are the ones I remember most cleacrly. I've actualyl been out of the loop for a year or two |
| Strangelv | "Not sure |
| astrodog | Gotcha. |
| Strangelv | Good luck finding or figuring out the answer. IIRC the email lists, if you want to try those, are on the website. I'm on two lists, but I'm not sure how to join them off of the top of my head. It's been awhile |
| astrodog | How active is the project, anyway? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2402 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2402 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: bibletime error on rpmlint |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2402 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2402 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2402 normal, P5, ---, albator78, NEEDINFO , Build issue: bibletime error on rpmlint |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2403 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2403 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: add support for automake 1.15 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2404 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2404 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Yakuake should have same keyboard shortcuts than konsole |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2402 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2402 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: bibletime error on rpmlint |
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| irz19 | Hello! |
| wsky | hi |
| irz19 | I can not use kopete with my xmpp-server. kopete reports this message: "There was an error authenticating with the server: Login failed with unknown reason.". I also tried legacy-ssl, with no success. i can connect without tls/ssl. |
| irz19 | ah, damned. forget it :D i deleted the xmpp-user; everything is fine, i re-created them. |
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| hackbert | hi there |
| hackbert | just tried to compile tde from its sources and got stuck when configuring / compiling tqt3 |
| hackbert | I used the following configure line: cd main/dependencies/tqt3 ; ./configure -qt-libpng -no-freetype -qt-zlib --prefix=/opt/tde |
| hackbert | and got: ../../../../include/private/qt_x11_p.h:154:26: fatal error: ft2build.h: No such file or directory |
| hackbert | it seems as if the path to the freetype2 headers is not set correctly |
| hackbert | is there any way to pass this information to the configure script? |
| SlavekB | Try to add -I/usr/include/freetype2 in your configure script. |
| hackbert | SlavekB: I added this to the configure line and it seems to work. Thanks |
| hackbert | No I am stuck with "..... /tqt3/bin/tquic: error while loading shared libraries: libtqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| hackbert | seems as if I had to ajust my LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| SlavekB | Try to set in your build directory: |
| SlavekB | export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$(pwd)/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| SlavekB | and it may be helpful to set the also path: |
| SlavekB | PATH=$(pwd)/bin:$PATH |
| hackbert | SlavekB: Did that, seems to work, thanks |
| hackbert | Cannot wait to have my own TDE running on this box. I wanna get back this KDE 3.5 feeling I have been missing for such a long time |
| SlavekB | what distribution? |
| hackbert | SlavekB: Debian. I know there are pre-built packages for that, but as I might start hacking on TDE I'm better off compiling everything myself |
| SlavekB | (Y) |
| SlavekB | The tde-packaging repository you can find debian specific build rules. |
| SlavekB | These rules are used to build deb packages. |
| hackbert | Nice |
| hackbert | where are these scripts located? |
| hackbert | I mean where in the source tree? |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/ |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/debian/squeeze |
| SlavekB | Rules are currently identical for squeeze, wheezy an jessie. |
| SlavekB | ...and also for Raspbian ;) |
| hackbert | nice |
| hackbert | what's the clone URL? |
| SlavekB | git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde-packaging |
| SlavekB | By the way, you can use create_tarball from scripts repository, to prepare "orig.tar.xz" for debian package :) |
| hackbert | that's awesome |
| hackbert | What about security updates? I'm considering changing to TDE soon, especially for KMail, but I'm a bit worried whether there will be sercurity updates regularly. |
| hackbert | The project seems huge (a lot of libs and applications) |
| SlavekB | Yes, the project is huge. |
| hackbert | Is there any chance this stuff will be ported to a newer version of QT? This would at least take away the burden of maintaining QT3 at the same time |
| SlavekB | We try to follow other security notices - especially for KDE and detects whether the same is valid for the TDE. |
| SlavekB | ...as you can see in Qt3/TQt3 commits: |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/qt3/log/?h=origin/master |
| hackbert | OK, I see |
| hackbert | Do you plan to get into the major distributions? |
| hackbert | I mean, do you try to push distributions to include TDE in their official package lists? |
| SlavekB | For all I know, currently it is not planned migration to a newer Qt version. |
| SlavekB | The problem is that many binaries would have to be renamed to avoid conflict with other packages. |
| hackbert | OK |
| hackbert | I'd really love to see TDE as part of the official debian release |
| SlavekB | Therefore currently is not a big effort to get TDE to official distributions. |
| SlavekB | Keeping us out of the distribution at this time gives the advantage that we can keep the current TDE version for many different versions of Debian / Ubuntu. |
| hackbert | In any case thanks for this cool project. It's time to get my desktop back to "when it was perfect" :) |
| hackbert | gotta go |
| hackbert | thanks for your help |
| hackbert | bye |
| SlavekB | bys |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2402 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2402 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: bibletime error on rpmlint |
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| Strangelv | The shade feature really needs to indicate its hotkey. It wald also help if it wasn't impossible to turn off when accidentally triggered with one's mouse alone. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2403 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2403 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: add support for automake 1.15 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2405 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2405 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kopete can't retrieve list of jabber networks or show details about public servers |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2406 filed by adam@chyla.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2406 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Broken dependencies on Debian Jessie |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2406 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 10adam@chyla.org changed the Status on bug 2406 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2406 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Broken dependencies on Debian Jessie |
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| tbottu | 10adam@chyla.org changed the Status on bug 2406 from NEW --- to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2406 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Broken dependencies on Debian Jessie |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2407 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2407 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KPatience is not adapted to newer hi-res screens |
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| jiangyd | hi, does tdepowersave (tde14 on jessie) use systemd to hibernate? |
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| SlavekB | Yes, if systemd is available, is used to do suspend and hybernation. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2408 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2408 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Application desktop files should go to XDG directory instead of applnk |
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| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2408 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2408 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , Application desktop files should go to XDG directory instead of applnk |
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| * Strangelv : 124 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 192 MB of archives. | |
| Strangelv | Almost all TDE. Someone's been busy. 8) |
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| OnlyHuman | hi, any one around? |
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| Strangelv | "Possibly, but am I useful to have around? |
| OnlyHuman | I was try to add to etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list but every time synaptic complains |
| SlavekB | what distribution and version? |
| OnlyHuman | wow one worked. it was for pclos |
| OnlyHuman | 2015 |
| OnlyHuman | any plans for ARM6 repo? |
| OnlyHuman | wonder if it would perform reasonable on a raspberry pi |
| SlavekB | For Debian is repository available. |
| SlavekB | Raspbian-Wheezy. |
| OnlyHuman | yes have that on a pi at present don't know if they have trinity |
| OnlyHuman | does trinity-desktop work with latest gdm ok |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2409 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2409 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: kftpgrabber fails in rpmlint |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2409 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2410 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2410 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS when build without xcomposite support |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2410 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2410 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2410 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: FTBFS when build without xcomposite support |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2411 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2411 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , EL7 dependency issue for trinity-desktop-extras |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2412 filed by hallvor1976@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2412 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEpowersave: Suspends to RAM and then to disk |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2413 filed by rdegennaro@sscps.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2413 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Can't save wifi settings after new insatll |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2414 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2414 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kvkbd shift key doing strange behaviour |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2415 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2415 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Icon size is not always ajustable when using XFCE icon theme |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2416 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2416 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Different panels can't have different settings on TDE R14 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2417 filed by amstreet@gmx.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2417 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , pkglist.x86_64 not found |
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| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2411 from NEW --- to RESOLVED WONTFIX. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2411 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WONTFIX, EL7 dependency issue for trinity-desktop-extras |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2418 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2418 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , CentOS 7 media player issues after upgrade |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2419 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2419 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Amarok crashing after CentOS upgrade |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2420 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2420 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Taskbar label for copy dialog |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2421 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2421 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add word count feature to kate/kwrite |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2422 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2422 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] kdesktop hang in SaverEngine::waitForLockEngage |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2422 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2422 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , [Regression] kdesktop hang in SaverEngine::waitForLockEngage |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2422 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2422 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , [Regression] kdesktop hang in SaverEngine::waitForLockEngage |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2422 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2422 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , [Regression] kdesktop hang in SaverEngine::waitForLockEngage |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2422 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2422 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , [Regression] kdesktop hang in SaverEngine::waitForLockEngage |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2189 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Some windows stay transparent with recent Compton update |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2422 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2422 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] kdesktop hang in SaverEngine::waitForLockEngage |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2423 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2423 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kplato cannot load an previously stored project |
| tbottu | 10martin.hodges@getmail.no changed the Status on bug 2119 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2119 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Tdesvn crashes when opening an existing repository |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2189 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Some windows stay transparent with recent Compton update |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2424 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2424 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Application desktop files should not contain icon extension (.png) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2425 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2425 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Panel shadow should always be in the opposite side of the border of the screen |
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| Konomi | hey |
| Konomi | the web site seems down and I just had the latest update bomb to my desktop |
| Konomi | erm bomb to terminal xorg crashed or something |
| Konomi | anyone got any ideas? |
| Konomi | Service Unavailable |
| Konomi | The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. |
| Konomi | Apache/2.4.9 (Debian) Server at www.trinitydesktop.org Port 443 |
| Konomi | the certificate expired too fyi ._. |
| Konomi | xession-errors log: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0a6879f5/ |
| SlavekB | Konomi: TDM is running? |
| Konomi | tdm was running when I told aptitude to safe-upgrade |
| Konomi | xorg appears to have crashed mid update |
| Konomi | aptitude did keep running though and finish |
| Konomi | I restarted and it was working fine |
| Konomi | but it shouldn't have crashed in the first place |
| Konomi | actually looking at xession-errors it looks like the update process forced it to closed |
| Konomi | close* |
| SlavekB | I think it is related to this: |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/commit/?id=ce5fcecb |
| SlavekB | Because debhelper adding unwanted termination tdm-trinity. |
| SlavekB | Now it is fixed. |
| Konomi | awesome |
| Konomi | thanks for the info |
| Konomi | another thing |
| Konomi | hmm this changelog only shows lenny and squeeze |
| Konomi | is this fix going into jessie? |
| SlavekB | yes |
| Konomi | okay |
| SlavekB | jessie has symlink to squeeze |
| SlavekB | packaging files are common |
| Konomi | one other thing |
| Konomi | I've been using this in my sources.list |
| Konomi | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb jessie deps-r14 main-r14 |
| Konomi | due to a conflict with packaging |
| Konomi | would it be safe to go back to the officals now? |
| SlavekB | The official sources will be safe to use after the final R14.0.1 |
| Konomi | could you share the offical repo url I can't access it due to the site being down |
| SlavekB | However, the final R14.0.1 will be exactly from the same source packages :) |
| SlavekB | The official repository contains R14.0.0, which can not be used on Jessie. |
| Konomi | ah okay |
| Konomi | I'll stick with this one until release then |
| Konomi | thanks for your help |
| SlavekB | you're welcome |
| Konomi | I run trinity in a VM and keep it pretty up to date because my significant other might end up using it one day |
| Konomi | kde4 is trying her patience ;p |
| Konomi | oh another question |
| Konomi | some icons don't seem to show up in the kde menu |
| Konomi | for example pulse audio volume control has a blank icon and I know it has one |
| Konomi | any ideas on why? |
| Konomi | hmm |
| Konomi | maybe it's because it has no fall back icon set |
| Konomi | hmm it has the icon install on the system it just doesn't show |
| Konomi | Icon=multimedia-volume-control |
| Konomi | file /usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/apps/multimedia-volume-control.png |
| Konomi | /usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/apps/multimedia-volume-control.png: PNG image data, 16 x 16, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced |
| Konomi | it seems to work if I select the gnome theme for the icons |
| Konomi | like there is no fallback |
| Konomi | seems it depends on the selected icon set |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2426 filed by jdiamond@acadiau.ca. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2426 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , documentation errors |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2427 filed by martin.hodges@getmail.no. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2427 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Cannot login from TDM to desktop after update with files dated 2015-04-18 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2428 filed by office@klepp.biz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2428 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Patch for arts not compiling on FreeBSD 10.1 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2428 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2428 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , Patch for arts not compiling on FreeBSD 10.1 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2429 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2429 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdeio_media_mounthelper missing mountpoint in error dialog |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2430 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2430 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Premature timeout during umount with lots of data to sync |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2431 filed by office@klepp.biz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2431 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , patch for tdelibs not compiling on FreeBSD 10.1 |
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| Arven | SlavekB: the trinitydesktop.org site appears to be down due to an invalid key |
| SlavekB | Site is not down, the problem is "only" with the expired certificate. This will be solved by Tim. |
| Arven | SlavekB: well, several browsers seem to outright block expired certificates. would it be possible for him to set up an unencrypted version (for at least some stuff). |
| Arven | I know how much of a headache updating keys can be |
| Arven | I think there might be some issues on my side of the network, too. I'm now completely unable to connect. |
| Arven | downforeveryoneorjustme says "It's just you. http://www.trinitydesktop.org is up." Definitely an issue on my side of the network |
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| Arven | SlavekB: most of the issues I was having were solely on my side (downforeveryoneorjustme says so, at least) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2432 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2432 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: ktorrent rpmlint error |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2432 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2433 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2433 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: kmplayer rpmlint error |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2433 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2434 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2434 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: smartcardauth rpmlint errors |
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| zlinux_ | Hi fellow KDE3.5 lovers |
| zlinux_ | how many users are using TDE? |
| zlinux_ | I'd like to know the potential of the project to stay alive |
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| Arven | zlinux_: I'm not sure how many, I know me and a friend does |
| zlinux_ | how many of your friends who are linux/bsd kde users, prefer kde3.5 ? |
| zlinux_ | how much is the ratio? |
| zlinux_ | those who prefer kde3.5 to total of your friends who use kde |
| Arven | zlinux_: I don't honestly know a lot of KDE4 users, to be honest |
| zlinux_ | how many KDE* do you know? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2435 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2435 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Compton's shadow interferes with Kickoff menu |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2436 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2436 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [App Request] KreetingKard |
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| vkrishn | hi |
| vkrishn | keep getting error, git clone https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/qt3 |
| SlavekB | use: |
| SlavekB | git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/qt3 |
| vkrishn | thanks |
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| pauled | Hi, there is unofficial repo for #archlinux? |
| pauled | Wanting to install tde on arch |
| SlavekB | pauled: Unfortunately, we have no one who cared about Arch packages and keep them up to date. |
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| pauled | SlavekB: Thank you. Maybe if there were old PKGBUILD coming from old repository, with it I could have tried to install it. |
| pauled | Nerver mind. I'll try perhaps by installing from source files |
| pauled | oh I found this: https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/arch/3.5.13 |
| pauled | Ok I will look at this later if I can migrate these PKGBUILD to R14.0 |
| pauled | Ok, I have to take rest. bye :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2437 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2437 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Kdesktop hang on start |
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| RedShift | hi all |
| wsky | hi |
| RedShift | I just installed trinity on CentOS 7, and I notice when I move my cursor to the top right corner it changes into a hand and doesn't respond to clicks anymore |
| RedShift | what is that? |
| wsky | a bug |
| RedShift | ah ok :-) |
| RedShift | I thought it was a "magic corner" or something |
| RedShift | having this DE, man it takes me back :D |
| Space_Man | that bug/feature doesn't exist with ubuntu |
| Space_Man | can you move the cursor out of the corner? |
| Space_Man | or does it become trapped, forever as a hand |
| RedShift | I can move the cursor out of the corner |
| RedShift | it reverts back to the default pointer |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2438 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2438 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: tde-systemsettings rpmlint errors |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2438 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2439 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2439 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: wlassistant rpmlint errors |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2439 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| ockelz | greetings |
| ockelz | just created usb with dd from tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.0-amd64.iso. Won't boot, just boots from sda. Other iso's do boot from usb created with dd |
| ockelz | USB label is correct imho 'Ubuntu Trusty TDE amd64' |
| ockelz | or should i use unetbootin to create usb? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2440 filed by lisi.reisz@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2440 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Make HTML email legible to the partially sighted |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2441 filed by jh374122@yahoo.co.uk. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2441 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , System raises crash report on shut-down, but completes normally when continued |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2441 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2441 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , System raises crash report on shut-down, but completes normally when continued |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2442 filed by michel.nolard@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2442 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Ruby: uninitialized constant Qt::TQt in qtruby.rb |
| tbottu | 10michel.nolard@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 2442 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2428 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2428 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Patch for arts not compiling on FreeBSD 10.1 |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2403 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2403 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: add support for automake 1.15 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2443 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2443 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: new FTBFS in tdebase under openBSD 5.7 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2443 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| strangelv | /me : MikeD says, "HTTP/1.1 509 Maximum Instantaneous Bandwidth Exceeded" |
| strangelv | /me : MikeD says, "There are too many users accessing this server to be able to service your request" |
| strangelv | /me : MikeD says, "Please try again later" |
| strangelv | /me : MikeD says, "attempted to access trinity/rpm/f20/ISO" |
| strangelv | /me : MikeD says, "at 2015-05-12 19:00:38" |
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| Strangelv | hmm |
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| nagerst | hi |
| nagerst | is the polyester package from kde 3.5.* available for TDE somewhere? |
| nagerst | or oxygen for tde |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2444 filed by deloptes@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2444 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , konqueror-trinity add unmount option for cell phone |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2437 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2437 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , [Regression] Kdesktop hang on start |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2445 filed by nick.koretsky@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2445 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdekbdledsync memory leak |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2446 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2446 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Dependency issue with "ca-certificates" on CentOS 7 "yum upgrade" |
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| Arven | The latest nightly builds seem to not be able to open MS Word doc format, as well as a barrage of other formats. |
| Arven | I can't be sure if it's just a failed update on my system or a FTBFS in KOffice |
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| Fat-Zer | is the https://www.trinitydesktop.org down? |
| SlavekB | Hmm, for me also cannot be loaded. |
| Fat-Zer | git down as well as I see... |
| SlavekB | Ha, it's available again! Slow, but available. |
| Fat-Zer | damn... tqt still uses variable interfering with qt4 (( |
| SlavekB | Please, can you fill a bug report, in which we will keep these variables in mind? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2447 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2447 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , environment variables of tqt interferes with qt |
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| Strangelv | Thank you for discovering that |
| Strangelv | Our Gnome counterpart has a Patreon account. Could we do the same? https://www.patreon.com/ubuntu_mate |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2448 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2448 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , LibreOffice 4.4.2 (jessie-backports) with TDE integration |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2437 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2437 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Kdesktop hang on start |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2390 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2390 blocker, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, [SECURITY] Need to patch qt3/tqt3 for security: CVE-2015-0295 |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2409 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2409 normal, P5, ---, albator78, NEEDINFO , Build issue: kftpgrabber fails in rpmlint |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2432 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2432 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: ktorrent rpmlint error |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2433 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2433 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: kmplayer rpmlint error |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2438 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2438 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tde-systemsettings rpmlint errors |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2449 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2449 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEFileReplace: search buttons not enabled if a search string was already entered |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2450 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2450 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEFileReplace: open "Location" to correct folder if it exists |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2451 filed by pix3l@katamail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2451 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror - Could not open the file, probably due to an unsupported file format |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2439 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2439 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: wlassistant rpmlint errors |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2452 filed by nick@leverton.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2452 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Errors in Debian 'alternatives' provision |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2452 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2452 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , Errors in Debian 'alternatives' provision |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2449 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2449 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEFileReplace: search buttons not enabled if a search string was already entered |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2306 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2306 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , Digikam trinity |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2453 filed by rainer@gassen-online.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2453 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , No print preview in Kate and KWrite |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2306 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2306 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Digikam trinity |
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| edakiri | How do I start trinity? I usually start the X Windows server then a session manager afterwards, but i could do it a different way. |
| edakiri | Funklord,laurent,mirda,msb_,raso,Ruusento,SlavekB,smithjd,solifugus,Space_Man,Strangelv,Xu_R |
| msb_ | My principle is: if it works, don't fix it. |
| edakiri | msb_: I don't know what session manager to run to start trinity. |
| edakiri | other desktop environments have their own session manager. |
| msb_ | Wish I could help, but I'm just a bystander. Isn't there documentation? |
| Space_Man | try tdm |
| SlavekB | /opt/trinity/bin/starttde |
| Space_Man | or ask on the email list |
| edakiri | starttde should work. I'll try now. |
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| Space_Man | will edakiri return? |
| msb_ | I'm running kde3 and I have a kdm process, owned by root. So tdm should work for tde. |
| SlavekB | I suppose he comes back with the information, if he was successful. |
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| edakiri | start_tdeinit did not work |
| edakiri | it waited and i did not see anything |
| SlavekB | xserver is running? |
| edakiri | SlavekB: yes. it had been. |
| edakiri | I see the X windows server background also because I run it with X(org) -retro. |
| edakiri | and mouse cursor |
| SlavekB | something usefull in ~/.xsession-errors? |
| edakiri | I tried start_tdeinit first without xorg to see whether it would start the server, but it did not |
| edakiri | SlavekB: I had not checked. I will try again some time later and check .isession-errors |
| edakiri | .xsession-errors |
| msb_ | I have an init script xdm that's called in runlevel 5. It calls kdm. |
| msb_ | xdm also runs /usr/X11R6/bin/X |
| msb_ | I guess that's the X system |
| msb_ | I guess that's the X server. |
| msb_ | So installing tde should change xdm to call tdm. |
| msb_ | Would somebody look in their init scripts and see if xdm calls tdm? |
| msb_ | Of course if you are using systemd, that ruins everything. |
| msb_ | My older Linux version uses sysvinit. |
| SlavekB | tdm is replacement of xdm |
| SlavekB | It makes no sense to run tdm from xdm. |
| SlavekB | from xdm should be called starttde as a session manager |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2089 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2089 normal, P2, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Dolphin shows an error pop-up message at exit |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2320 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2320 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , [Regression] KHelpCenter opens pages at the top heading rather than top of the page |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2320 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2320 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , [Regression] KHelpCenter opens pages at the top heading rather than top of the page |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2155 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2155 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdebase does not detect GL and GLU on older distributions |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2443 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2443 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: new FTBFS in tdebase under openBSD 5.7 |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2452 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2452 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Errors in Debian 'alternatives' provision |
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| CharlesN | is there going to be a FreeBSD package fro trinity some time soon ? |
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| Space_Man | [14:37] <CharlesN> is there going to be a FreeBSD package fro trinity some time soon ? |
| Space_Man | that is an interesting question |
| Space_Man | wait for slakekB to return, he may have some insight |
| Space_Man | however there was a recent question on the mailing list |
| Space_Man | [trinity-devel] Compiling tdelibs on FreeBSD stuck on tdehardwaredevices |
| Space_Man | somebody is trying to compile tde for freebsd |
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| CharlesN | thanks Space_Man |
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| CharlesN | hi SlavekB, Space_Man told me you have some insights on trinity on Freebsd |
| SlavekB | There are some patches waiting for tdelibs, and if I remember correctly, also for tdebase. |
| SlavekB | I'm afraid it will still take some time before the majority of the packages will be available for Freebsd |
| CharlesN | at least there is some work and people willing to work on this :) |
| CharlesN | the patches are available on the git tree ? |
| SlavekB | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2431 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 2431: blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , patch for tdelibs not compiling on FreeBSD 10.1 |
| SlavekB | there is one drawback - missing port of utmp-stuff. |
| SlavekB | Besides, you can see some comments from Nikolaus in mailing list. |
| CharlesN | SlavekB at least it seems that tdelibs are building fine on Freebsd besides the utmpx stuff |
| CharlesN | old patches from kde 3.5 when it was working on freebsd would not work ? |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately I have not found such patches. |
| CharlesN | i don't recall in what release of freebsd ports kde3.5 was availabe |
| CharlesN | here are the patches for ports release 9.1 |
| CharlesN | http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/branches/RELENG_9_1_0/x11-wm/wmii/ |
| CharlesN | I mean here are all the patches for the ports on htat release, maybe the kde ones are around in there |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2320 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2320 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] KHelpCenter opens pages at the top heading rather than top of the page |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1850 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1850 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , [Help Handbooks] Help handbooks in kcontrol modules with multiple tabs does not work |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1850 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1850 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, [Help Handbooks] Help handbooks in kcontrol modules with multiple tabs does not work |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2188 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2188 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , khelpcenter handbook section wrong display/resolution (in some rare cases) |
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| goldug | Hey |
| goldug | Was there a new update like yesterday or something? |
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| Space_Man | goldug: nope |
| Space_Man | no new updates for a while |
| Space_Man | r14 was released mid December 2014 |
| goldug | Okay, no updates either? |
| goldug | Because tde-desktop was (as I know) updated. I'm using the build for Debian Jessie though. |
| goldug | so I might have gotten an incremental update, right? |
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| present | Hello all :D |
| present | I thought I would introduce myself, I'm the one that has done the remaster of PCLinuxOS using Trinity as a desktop using the R14 release which is really nice btw |
| SlavekB | present: Hi |
| present | Hello SlavekB |
| present | I was reading the mailing lists and I thought it was about time I introduced myself :) |
| present | How are you SlavekB ? |
| SlavekB | http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com/ is your work? |
| present | yes, there are 2 of us actually, Reelcat does the "minime" and I'm the one that did the Big Daddy and May versions, the next one I'm doing will be with EFI and GTP etc, Hoping anyway :D |
| present | GPT even |
| SlavekB | good work |
| present | Thank you :) |
| present | I was going to use Alexanders live cd as a base, however it would have taken a load of updates to I did my own using the PCLinuxOS repos and the Trinity Repos |
| present | brb |
| present | back |
| Space_Man | why is PCLinuxOS better than ubuntu or debian? |
| * Space_Man has used ubuntu for 5 years | |
| * SlavekB has used debian for many years :) | |
| present | I just prefer it to both, it's a personal thing I guess, I liked Ubuntu in the beginning but when conacle (spelling) came in to play It changed, and now with systemd which I'm no fan of, but understands why :) I chose another route 9 years ago (way before systemd) |
| present | I used to use Debian on servers :) |
| present | I guess I get on with the forum members in pclos well, that helps too |
| present | I'm not a zealot with distros :) I believe you use the one you feel most at home with, for Space_Man it's Ubuntu and for SlavekB it's Debian and for me PCLinuxOS, we all run more or less the same software :) |
| present | brb, need a coffee |
| present | back with a tea |
| present | ran out of coffee |
| SlavekB | :) |
| present | :) do need help with the mailing list, never used one in all my years, mainly because forums :) so I sent a blank one as requested and got one back, but I used yahoo mail and I'm not 100% sure what I should send back :P |
| present | because I want to address some issues I have seen on the mailing list, and the person that tried to help totally got the wrong end of the stick lol |
| present | I take it that people here use Trinity because of their fondness of KDE3 back in the day |
| * present tiptoes around the room | |
| present | back later :) |
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| present | Good morning /Afternoon all |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2454 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2454 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KMail crashes on next start when closed in Offline mode |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2188 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2188 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, khelpcenter handbook section wrong display/resolution (in some rare cases) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2455 filed by hauke@pc-kiel.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2455 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kile / Kate no syntax highlighting |
| tbottu | 10hauke@pc-kiel.de changed the Component on bug 2455 from tdelibs to tdepim. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2455 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kile / Kate no syntax highlighting |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Component on bug 2455 from tdepim to tdelibs. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2455 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kile / Kate no syntax highlighting |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2308 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2308 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , tdevelop cannot create CMake hello world project |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2456 filed by jorgebr51@yahoo.com.br. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2456 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , close session with VNC also close other open sessions |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2302 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2302 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Add file types to kate ini.xml syntax highlighting |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2457 filed by aw30@sayne.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2457 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tderandrtray has several problems with two monitors |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2431 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2431 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, patch for tdelibs not compiling on FreeBSD 10.1 |
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| Windoze | Is it ok to ask for help on technical questions about trinity? |
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| Space_Man | yes |
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| Fat-Zer | SlavekB: hi... I'm wondering if you just know, where fom trinity get mime types? I've installed a yet another one but trinity doesn't see it... |
| Fat-Zer | xdg-open and kde4 does see it and assotiate with the right software... |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: for mime-types is used libmagic |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: isn't there any fallback to some more wizardish methode? |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: and I don't see the libmagick api to provide list of mime types in the configuration manager... |
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| SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: function magic_list() ? |
| Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: not sure... it seems it returns not mimetypes but something other... |
| Fat-Zer_ | I finelly found that tde have it's own mime database: $TDEDIR/share/mimelnk |
| Fat-Zer_ | *finally |
| Fat-Zer_ | Now I'm investigating how it's jenerated and why it doesn't use the system one... |
| Fat-Zer_ | oh... the tde's database comes with kdelibs in an (I suppose) old mimelnk *.desktop-based format. so it doesn't uses the /usr/share/mime xml-based files at all and I suppose it won't... |
| Fat-Zer_ | tde is so outdated (( |
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| Space_Man | Fat-Zer: make a bug report and somebody might fix the mimelnk database being out of date |
| SlavekB | Space_Man: It would be ideal if that "somebody" could be Fat-Zer :) |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2455 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2455 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Kile / Kate no syntax highlighting |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2458 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2458 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KAlarm fails to autostart |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2459 filed by office@klepp.biz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2459 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , patch for tdelibs not compiling on FreeBSD 10.1 with -DHAVE_PIE_SUPPORT=ON |
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| tbottu | 10ac586133@hotmail.com changed the Status on bug 2089 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2089 normal, P2, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Dolphin shows an error pop-up message at exit |
| tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2458 from NEW --- to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2458 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, KAlarm fails to autostart |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2455 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2455 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kile / Kate no syntax highlighting |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2460 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2460 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Crystal transparent windows decoration option is not reliable |
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| Fat-Zer | Space_Man: SlavekB: I belive if "somebody" won't be Fat-Zer, there will be no such somebody at all =(( |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2461 filed by fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2461 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KGet uses 100% of CPU |
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| tbottu | 10office@klepp.biz changed the Status on bug 2459 from NEW --- to RESOLVED INVALID. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2459 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, patch for tdelibs not compiling on FreeBSD 10.1 with -DHAVE_PIE_SUPPORT=ON |
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| present | hello all |
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| present | wb enderw |
| Space_Man | hi present |
| present | Hey Space_Man How are ya doing? |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2308 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2308 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, tdevelop cannot create CMake hello world project |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2462 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2462 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [FreeBSD] Crash in threads tdm, kdesktop,... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2463 filed by pix3l@katamail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2463 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Unable to mount ntfs devices |
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| tbottu | 10pix3l@katamail.com changed the Status on bug 2463 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2463 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Unable to mount ntfs devices |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2464 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2464 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add a feature to inhibit ''screen lock'' to TDE |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2465 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2465 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add a button to access kvkbd on TDM login screen |
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| kyoder | Hi, I'm trying to install trinity on Centos 7, but running into dependency problems |
| kyoder | I have added epel and nux repos |
| kyoder | (also nux-misc, but I wasn't sure if that was required since it only mentioned centos6) |
| kyoder | when I yum install trinity-tdebase, I get an error that trinity-arts-1.5.10 needs libjack.so.0 |
| kyoder | when I yum install trinity-desktop, I get many packages saying they're missing libjack.so.0 |
| kyoder | I've tried selectiely enabling disabled repos, nux-misc, cr, centosplus, but it hasn't changed anything |
| kyoder | `yum provides libjack.so.0` doesn't find it... |
| kyoder | not in epel-testing either |
| kyoder | interesting, my epel repo was borked, so I reinstalled it. yum provides libjack.so.0 still showed no hits |
| kyoder | but now all my dependency issues went away |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2310 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2310 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , tdevelop C++ Autotools Hello World project does not build |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2310 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2310 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, tdevelop C++ Autotools Hello World project does not build |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2466 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2466 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: Amarok FTBFS on Fedora 22 / Ruby 2.2.2 |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2446 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2446 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Dependency issue with "ca-certificates" on CentOS 7 "yum upgrade" |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2467 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2467 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: Koffice FTBFS on Fedora 22 / Ruby 2.2.2 |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2009 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2009 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Background picture of MoodinKDE splash engine is not resized to fit the screen |
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| present | hello peeps |
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| present | hello Fat-Zer |
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| Fat-Zer_ | hi... |
| present | hello |
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| Fat-Zer_ | that was a really nice conversation... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2468 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2468 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14.0.2 official bug list (meta bug) |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2455 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2455 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Kile / Kate no syntax highlighting |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2455 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2455 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Kile / Kate no syntax highlighting |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2469 filed by pix3l@katamail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2469 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kicker menu locks up after the screen lock |
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| sacarde | hi |
| sacarde | which tde package include kmail ? |
| SlavekB | sacarde: in which distribution? |
| SlavekB | sources si in tdepim |
| sacarde | ah |
| SlavekB | on Debian / Ubuntu is package kmail-trinity ;) |
| sacarde | I use an old version (13) in archlinux |
| SlavekB | oops, packages for archlinux are long time unmaintained |
| SlavekB | a long time there is no one who cared about those packages |
| sacarde | ah |
| SlavekB | volunteer is needed who can create and manage packages for archlinux. |
| sacarde | in an old PC I installed tde3.5.13 |
| sacarde | but I dont installed kmail |
| SlavekB | I do not know if it is still available the old archive with Arch binary packages |
| sacarde | seems not |
| SlavekB | I thought that |
| SlavekB | many people just asking, but no one who would dedicate efforts... ;) |
| sacarde | true |
| SlavekB | but the packages cannot prepare by themselves ;) |
| sacarde | hehe |
| sacarde | difficult is not only build from sources |
| sacarde | but manage dependencies |
| SlavekB | I have to go away - I'll be back in a few hours |
| sacarde | bye |
| SlavekB | note - you can use tde-packaging git repository for inspiration... |
| SlavekB | bye |
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| mirda | hello, please can you package qalculate to TDE? |
| mirda | https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2029 |
| tbottu | 04Bug 2029: needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , qalculate-kde KDE headers in installation prefix, can you package Qalcuate! to Trinity? |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2455 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2455 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Kile / Kate no syntax highlighting |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 420 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=420 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Keyboard cursor keys behaves strangely (non deterministic) in file dialogs |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1097 from CONFIRMED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1097 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, libjingle Video Chat support for Jabber/XMPP |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2470 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2470 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , konsole with many tabs is very slow to switch or move tabs |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2471 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2471 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Closing a konsole window requires selecting 'quit' even if there are other windows open |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2472 filed by hauke@pc-kiel.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2472 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , OTR icon missing in kopete message window |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2473 filed by hauke@pc-kiel.de. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk |
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| umarzuki | what happened to https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ ? |
| umarzuki | web service down |
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| Space_Man | [12:01] <umarzuki> what happened to https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ ? |
| * Space_Man can confirm | |
| SlavekB | Oops, it looks like an overloaded line. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2454 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2454 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , KMail crashes on next start when closed in Offline mode |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2274 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2274 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Klipper tdeinit_klipper.so missing |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2368 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2368 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kcalc: error while loading shared libraries: libtdeinit_kcalc.so |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2367 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2367 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, package libical1 renamed to libical1a |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: it is your fault, you keep fixing bugs and overloaded the server :P |
| SlavekB | :) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2474 filed by deloptes@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2474 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KPlayer port from kde3 to tde |
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| tbottu | 10rom_as@oscada.org changed the Status on bug 2252 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2252 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , Circular dependency in tdesvn-trinity |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2454 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2454 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, KMail crashes on next start when closed in Offline mode |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2474 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2474 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , KPlayer port from kde3 to tde |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2475 filed by deloptes@yahoo.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2475 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdevelop part && parent in PartWidget and PHP code editing |
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| umarzuki | hi, how to remove traces of default ubuntu desktop environment and only keep tde and its desktop manager? |
| pitriss | Hi guys.. I have problem with ksquirrel on debian Wheezy.. Its running but not showing images.. I found that it have no image plugins loaded and codec manager shows "Malformed url /opt/trinity/ksquirrel-libs/" and when I press apply it crashes with sigsegv: TDECRSH-0d56e97-1c36579-98910fe-9f444cc-dd10fe4-d3ac499-3eaceb0 |
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| abraxxl | hi |
| abraxxl | i installed trinityon debian jessie. And started the desktop session with /opt/trinity/bin/starttde, but the KDE ^W TDE menu is empty, but kmenuedit show a menu. most configuation dialogs are empty, so I cannot configure konsole or the panel. what am I doing wrong? |
| SlavekB | from what apt source you install? |
| abraxxl | SlavekB: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds |
| SlavekB | Ok, is something useful in ~/.xsession-errors? |
| abraxxl | SlavekB: not that I know of, but I wondered why /opt/trinity/bin was not in PATH, so I wrote a wrapper adding this directory to PATH before starting starttde. This now works. |
| SlavekB | Paths are usually added to $PATH in starttde. |
| abraxxl | I see in line 85 is TDEDIR set, and around 190 $TDEDIR/bin should be added to PATH, strange |
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| kb9vqf | Hello all |
| pitriss | hi |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I was attempting to validate the nightly builds on Jessie and noticed that the current builds rely on libudev0, which does not exist |
| kb9vqf | have you already fixed this? |
| pitriss | guys, please is there anybody who have also issues with ksquirrel which doesn't want to load codecs? |
| pitriss | codec manager returns "malformed url" and often crashes.. |
| pitriss | my system is 64bit wheezy |
| kb9vqf | pitriss: I don't use ksquirrel so I wouldn't know...have you filed a bug report on it? |
| kb9vqf | also, have you used the crash reporter to send in a backtrace? |
| pitriss | not yet, as i wasn't sure if its not my fault.. |
| kb9vqf | pitriss: In general, if software is crashing it isn't the user's fault. At minimum we should add more robust error checking if soemthing you are doing is causing the program to crash |
| pitriss | kb9vqf: ok.. I will register asap at trinity bugtracker and file a bugreport..:) |
| kb9vqf | thanks! |
| pitriss | youre welcome. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2476 filed by chytrex@wjake.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2476 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ksquirrel doesn't load codecs thus is unable to open any image |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: There is now a second ppc64el builder online |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Please ignore my earlier comments...it appears there was an issue on the test system I was using |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I'am back here. |
| kb9vqf | Hi |
| SlavekB | After tagging R14.0.1 final I'll create all source packages => all will be rebuilded. |
| kb9vqf | I am assuming that to release R14.0.1 I'll be copying from your PPA? |
| SlavekB | Yes, my PPA, but after rebuild for final packages. |
| kb9vqf | OK |
| kb9vqf | Make sure the version number is updated in tdelibs before tagging |
| SlavekB | That's why I had questions that I needed to be resolved before the tagging :) |
| SlavekB | Yes I know about tdelibs. |
| kb9vqf | Just making sure ;-) |
| SlavekB | Darrell in Etherpad proposed in lsm files change also date. |
| kb9vqf | At one point we had a release checklist on the Etherpad |
| SlavekB | But it strikes me as unnecessary, or even wrong. |
| SlavekB | Yes, I mean release checklist. |
| SlavekB | I made the version change, but the change to date seems for me incorrect. |
| kb9vqf | Do you have an example file I can look at? |
| kb9vqf | that is a path to one? |
| SlavekB | For example in Basket. |
| kb9vqf | right now I'm not sure what you mean by lsm file |
| SlavekB | Because even recently added packages also have not date 2010-05-10, but 2014-01-06. |
| SlavekB | And it seems to me unreasonable change it now back to 2010-05-10 :) |
| kb9vqf | I'm looking in the Basket sources but don't see any lsm files |
| SlavekB | That's why I kept the dates and proposes to remove this recommendation in Etherpad. |
| kb9vqf | oh, there they are |
| SlavekB | basket/src/basket.lsm |
| SlavekB | For master branch I'll update it soon to R14.1.0 - lsm files and also CMakeLists. |
| kb9vqf | Is the Entered-date required by the spec? |
| kb9vqf | if not I wonder if it can just be left blank |
| SlavekB | So unfortunately, I do not know. |
| SlavekB | hovewer, you can see lsm file for example in kshutdown |
| SlavekB | in kshutdown is entered-date 2014-01-06. |
| SlavekB | and also in some other newly added applications. |
| SlavekB | If you know RPMs use 'spec' files that are in the tde-packaging. |
| SlavekB | If I now... ;) |
| SlavekB | If I know... ;) |
| SlavekB | sorry for my bad english :( |
| kb9vqf | no problem |
| kb9vqf | The specification states that the Entere-date must be changed whenever the LSM file is modified |
| SlavekB | which packages on Jessie have dependency on libudev0? |
| kb9vqf | so, when you change the version, the date needs to be updated to the current date |
| kb9vqf | http://lsm.execpc.com/lsm/LSM.README |
| kb9vqf | Ignore the libudev0 issue, that was user error on one test machine |
| SlavekB | Ok, I'll update it before tagging. |
| kb9vqf | We should probably create a script to update the version and entered-date in all LSM files |
| SlavekB | small script is on Etherpad. |
| kb9vqf | It should be easy because all files should have the same version and date, changed right before release |
| kb9vqf | link please? |
| SlavekB | http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/37 |
| SlavekB | I can change this small script to use current date, instead of hardcoded in 'sed' call. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, sounds good. Can we use proper parameters and add that to the scripts repo? |
| kb9vqf | it should only take one parameter: the new release number |
| SlavekB | Yes, it would probably be useful. |
| SlavekB | I'll add to this script aleo the top part, that modifies the version in CMakeLists. |
| kb9vqf | What I would like to eventually see is a master "release" script that calls various scripts to update all of the stuff we normally forget to do at release time |
| kb9vqf | but that would be for later, after this release is done |
| SlavekB | I think the change lsm and cmake files should be done at the beginning of the development cycle :) |
| SlavekB | hovewer, final date to lsm files are known later - in release time. |
| SlavekB | Now I checked in 'preliminary-stable-builds' => tdelibs14-trinity depends on libudev1 |
| SlavekB | Ana also tdebase-trinity-bin depends on libudev1. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, the libudev0 issue was a mistake on my end during testing |
| kb9vqf | there is no issue in reality |
| SlavekB | As I mentioned - after tagging will follow complete rebuild for final R14.0.1 => to remove ~preXX from packages version. So, all dependencies thereafter should be up to date. |
| kb9vqf | sounds good |
| SlavekB | As you mentioned, the master branch is now not fully synchronized with r14.0.x - this is because R14.0.1 change in lsm and cmake files. |
| kb9vqf | What I normally do is push the change to master and then cherry pick whatever is needed to the SRU branches |
| kb9vqf | otherwise we get into a split development head mess |
| SlavekB | Push into master version R14.0.1 seems strange for me. That's why I pushed this only to r14.0.x. |
| SlavekB | I assumed that to master it would make sense to push R14.1.0. |
| SlavekB | But it would not be helpful for cherry-pick to r14.0.x. |
| SlavekB | Similarly, it would not make sense to push R14.0.1 to tdelibs/tdecore/tdeversion.h in the master branch :) |
| SlavekB | So it seems that there are no obstacles for tagging final R14.0.1 - of course, after I make the necessary change to date in lsm files, the version in tdelibs,... |
| SlavekB | Or should I wait until will be examined current bug report in KSquirrel? |
| kb9vqf | You can take a look at the bug report for ksquirrel, but unless it's a very simple fix I'd wait to fix it for the next release |
| SlavekB | I think I see where lies the problem with ksquirrel. |
| SlavekB | In ksquirrellibs.pc is defined: |
| SlavekB | -DSQ_KLIBS=\"\\\"${libdir}/ksquirrel-libs\\\"\" |
| SlavekB | Then quotes are doubled in Makefile. |
| pitriss | Hmm if I should try something, just let me know.:) |
| SlavekB | Currently I am trying to patch libksquirrel for which it is necessary to subsequently rebuild ksquirrel. |
| SlavekB | Hmm, on my test FreeBSD machine KSquirrel crashes. I'm going to try to rebuild on Debian... ;) |
| pitriss | ok |
| SlavekB | On Debian it's better - patch successfully confirmed. |
| SlavekB | By this I also revealed second bug... |
| SlavekB | And now I search why KSquirrel do not show any kipi-plugins. |
| pitriss | ohh.. |
| pitriss | But I'm glad it can be fixed.. i love this app:) |
| SlavekB | but for now Kipi-plugins probably remain unresolved. |
| pitriss | no problem for me.. |
| pitriss | I don't use them as I can fix images in gimp or use gwenview |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2476 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2476 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , ksquirrel doesn't load codecs thus is unable to open any image |
| SlavekB | I must finally to bed... |
| SlavekB | ...I will push patches afterwards. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: thank you for consultation |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: No problem; thanks a bunch for your hard work on TDE! |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: BTW I'll be here on IRC tomorrow as well |
| SlavekB | Great thank you. |
| SlavekB | Incidentally, we have a problem with pushing into main/infrastructure/website |
| SlavekB | Michele tried it, I tried it I |
| SlavekB | Both do not have permission |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2476 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2476 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , ksquirrel doesn't load codecs thus is unable to open any image |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'm thinking that lockout was so that I had a chance to look at anything posted to the site since the server is in the US and therefore there are DMCA concerns -- if you can send me the file I'll push it to GIT |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Michele sent file in the mail. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2476 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2476 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , ksquirrel doesn't load codecs thus is unable to open any image |
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| SlavekB | grrr, previous patch for libksquirrel causes FTBFS on Lucid, now cause FTBFS on Squeeze :( |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2476 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2476 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEEDINFO , ksquirrel doesn't load codecs thus is unable to open any image |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2477 filed by mrmazda@earthlink.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2477 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tde session won't run if kgtk-qt3-trinity is installed in jessie |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Component on bug 2476 from tdegraphics to non-core programs. |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2476 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2476 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, ksquirrel doesn't load codecs thus is unable to open any image |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: It seems that nothing prevents to the update version in tdelibs and tagging final R14.0.1 |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Great! |
| kb9vqf | thanks for handling that bug |
| SlavekB | ksquirrel problem was a little more challenging |
| SlavekB | but now is resolved :) |
| SlavekB | Interestingly, the same problem was already in TDE 3.5.13.x. |
| pitriss | SlavekB: Great, thanks for fixing that bug.. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Ok, I hope that I do not forget anything and I can push tag to public GIT repository. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: You updated the lsm files, correct? |
| SlavekB | yes - date updated to 2015-07-13. |
| SlavekB | example: |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/commit/?h=origin/r14.0.x&id=4ceb0374 |
| SlavekB | And version number in tdelibs was updated: |
| SlavekB | http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/commit/?h=origin/r14.0.x&id=4c186c78 |
| kb9vqf | OK |
| kb9vqf | in that case I don't see any remaining issues |
| SlavekB | Well, I also have not idea what could I forget :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: You could always hold off on tagging until your repository has been fully rebuilt |
| kb9vqf | Then I can run a quick check to see if anything is missing |
| SlavekB | Yes, so far I can keep tag in my local repository. |
| kb9vqf | That is how I managed released before |
| kb9vqf | build, check, then tag |
| kb9vqf | I caught more than a couple mistakes that way |
| kb9vqf | At least with two ppc64el builders up the builds should be done sooner rather than later |
| kb9vqf | I may need to add a third / fourth but don't have the hardware available right now |
| kb9vqf | eventually I'll be using a native PPC64 server to run those builds |
| SlavekB | I'm tags at the beginning, because in my script based on the tag was composed final version == without ~preXX. |
| SlavekB | can you see to my "phantom" build? |
| kb9vqf | link? |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/268115 |
| kb9vqf | nice |
| kb9vqf | let me fix that up |
| SlavekB | About the version - I had tdelibs: tdelibs-trinity_14.0.1~pre41-0debian6.0.0+3 and final release will be clean tdelibs-trinity_14.0.1-0debian6.0.0+0 |
| SlavekB | Therefore, according to tag the script identifies whether the package is created as final or as preliminary. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'm having a hard time fixing that build |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: What source package does it belong to? |
| SlavekB | libksquirel. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Which distro? |
| SlavekB | jessie - its ppc64el build :) |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+builds?build_state=building |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Ah, well it looks like you uploaded a new package over that one |
| kb9vqf | so in time the broken package will be pruned |
| kb9vqf | new package: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/269921 |
| kb9vqf | that might be why I can't fix it |
| SlavekB | build for first package was ran successfully, but prior to upload binaries have been waiting a new package for build. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I have prioritized the replacement build to run next |
| kb9vqf | I can't fix the old build |
| kb9vqf | Launchpad does this sometimes -- it is a very complex system and if power is cut sometimes it can't recover properly |
| SlavekB | this was caused during today |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Odd. Am I correct in assuming that you don't need that particular version built, and that if the newer version is built instead that it will be fine? |
| SlavekB | Yes, this 'phantom' may be marked as superseded. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: OK, I prioritized the replacement build so that it will be run next |
| kb9vqf | once that build is done the system will automatically remove the superseded damaged build |
| kb9vqf | I don't really know what happened; Launchpad is so complex that even the official support for Canonical's implementation involves simply deleting a broken build and reuploading |
| SlavekB | Sometimes I am glad that I can for first verify packages on my simple builder :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, I normally build a package locally as well for testing if the packaging files have change |
| kb9vqf | but nothing beats the build farm for its intended purpose: mass rebuilds of many thousands of packages per distro |
| kb9vqf | and the publishing tools for those built packages |
| SlavekB | I use a combination of pbuilder + reprepro. |
| kb9vqf | I used to do something similar, but publishing releases became a nightmare |
| kb9vqf | it's great for development though |
| SlavekB | To do this, I have one script to prepare source packages and second script to automate builds waiting in reprepro => to call pbuilder. |
| SlavekB | Meanwhile I am doing only: reprepro processincoming ... :) |
| SlavekB | You surely know that I have in my repository some architecture that are not in the official builds. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes |
| kb9vqf | MIPS, right? |
| SlavekB | mips, powerpc |
| SlavekB | arm64 |
| SlavekB | Is there any possibility that we could also expose this builds on the official site? |
| SlavekB | also for Ununtu Trusty I have builds for armhf, powerpc and ppc64el. |
| SlavekB | I have it as a standard apt repository so it can be used, for example, apt-mirror. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: As we don't have the normal management tools for that repository there are a number of things we can't do (e.g. copy packages from one repository to another without rebuilding), but I suppose I could publish your builds onto the mirrors in a non-official capacity |
| kb9vqf | For instance I have no way of knowing package versions, etc. at a glance like I do on Launchpad |
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| kb9vqf | over time I'd like to add those other architectures to Launchpad |
| SlavekB | I hope for example arm64 might be interesting in the future. |
| kb9vqf | basically I need another dedicated build server to do that, so perhaps the next release will have support for a few more architectures |
| kb9vqf | if I can obtain the requisite server |
| SlavekB | I successfully use pbuilder + qemu-user-static (except ppc64el) |
| kb9vqf | I build natively, I have had too many issues with cross compiling to use it |
| kb9vqf | especially on arm cross compiling can cause weird crashes |
| SlavekB | Yes, I also got some problems - especially with tdeedu. |
| SlavekB | Even so, it works fairly well. |
| kb9vqf | The build farm is all native compilation |
| kb9vqf | so that's the other reason your builds would be unofficial ;-) |
| SlavekB | including new ppc64el? |
| kb9vqf | ppc64el is official on the build farm |
| kb9vqf | it's done through a real qemu VM, not through cross-compilation |
| kb9vqf | i.e. it's executing a real PPC64 kernel on that VM and building as if it was a real machine |
| kb9vqf | that eliminates the instability found in cross compilation |
| kb9vqf | eventually I would like to move that to a dedicated PPC64 machine for speed reasons |
| SlavekB | I had available one physical pp64el and build speed is compared to a build-farm vastly different |
| kb9vqf | yes, it would be, by several orders of magnitude |
| kb9vqf | nice! What board are you using? |
| SlavekB | I do not know - I've got access to one server somewhere in France :) |
| kb9vqf | ok, ok |
| kb9vqf | I hope to acquire an OpenPOWER system in the next several months |
| SlavekB | its KVM virtual machine on native ppc64el server. |
| kb9vqf | right, and that's what I would be using as well |
| kb9vqf | however that's a $3k server system, which is why I was putting off acquisition until such a system was needed for other business reasons |
| SlavekB | I understand. |
| kb9vqf | It is increasingly looking like POWER8 may be needed for other reasons here, so we are looking at evaluating at least one server |
| kb9vqf | the architecture is much better than x86 and it uses open firmware |
| kb9vqf | both are very important |
| kb9vqf | anyway that is somewhat off topic here :-) |
| SlavekB | :) |
| kb9vqf | MIPS and arm64 builds would be virtualized at the beginning, then at least arm64 would be moved to real hardware |
| kb9vqf | I don't think I can obtain a MIPS server so that may stay virtualized |
| kb9vqf | I'm not sure that I care enough to target straight (non-64 bit) PPC |
| SlavekB | I'm in the beginning interested about MIPS really just because I have here one very old SGI Indy :) |
| SlavekB | And I wanted to try TDE on this nice old machine :) |
| SlavekB | And because pbuilder + qemu-user-static worked so well, so I began to add other architectures on users' requests. |
| SlavekB | Anyway, I tried even pbuilder with full VM (qemubuilder), but it was significantly slower. |
| SlavekB | With qemu-user-static I can use DEB_BUILD_PARALLEL and also building on a ramdisk. |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Please can you push announcements of freeze for R14.0.1 as it sent Michele? |
| pitriss | i wanted to ask, when I can expect next release? :) |
| SlavekB | now is underway complete rebuild for final R14.0.1 packages |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Done |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Thank you. |
| pitriss | SlavekB: ah so it will be out sooner than I expected:) |
| pitriss | guys you are doing really awesome job with trinity.. |
| kb9vqf | pitriss: Thank you, I think Slavek deserves most of the credit for the current SRU :-) |
| pitriss | kb9vqf: when I get my OS to some "usable" shape then I will try to help you too.. I have not much skills but maybe even bug reports will help you a bit:) |
| pitriss | ..its terrible for me to switch from my perfectly tuned debian lenny (bit outdated, i know) to wheeze... but on other hand.. hdd failure was chance to upgrade even when I have backups:D |
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| DarwinElf | any plans for a Slackware version yet? |
| kb9vqf | DarwinElf: We would need someone to compile packages for Slackware |
| kb9vqf | I personally don't have experience with Slackware and therefore could not prepare high quality builds |
| kb9vqf | volunteers are welcome :-) |
| DarwinElf | I know someone associated with the project has been for years but just never releases them :\ |
| DarwinElf | it is too complicated for me to make a package for Slackware when documentation is written for a newer and less Unix-like distribution |
| DarwinElf | and I do not want to have to replicate someone else's work, that is just not in the Free Software spirit if they are not releasing it |
| kb9vqf | DarwinElf: I understand completely |
| kb9vqf | it is generally in their legal rights though not to release something used internally |
| kb9vqf | your best bet is to find someone who will do the work and release it |
| kb9vqf | we're always happy to have more contributors |
| kb9vqf | more packages == more users :-) |
| DarwinElf | well, maybe I will give it another try, but I will have to either set up an alternate PC, or VM, first, which may take a while |
| DarwinElf | I do not really know anyone else who would want to work on it |
| DarwinElf | but I like TDE enough that similar to when I paid $100 to $200 for a GUI OS on the 1990s before knowing about Free/Libre Software, if I had that extra money I would make a donation that large just if someone could make it... but then I would feel a bit embarassed not having tried again |
| kb9vqf | DarwinElf: Yes, it's always better to see if you can do it yourself first. If you run into any problems our mailing lists are usually fairly helpful |
| DarwinElf | has there been anything added to TDE to make it easier to use KDE4 programs... like configuration for its appearance (that 'force non-TDE programs to look the same' or whatever does not necessarily work on)? |
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| pitriss | DarwinElf: I used qtcurve theme for all systems but unfortunatelly i needed to instal also systemsettings from KDE4 to configure colors of kde4 apps |
| pitriss | DarwinElf: I agree there would be good some simpler system to apply colors to qt4/kde4 apps |
| DarwinElf | well I will leave KDE4 installed anyway and use some of its things like Dolphin and the newer KATE. If I removed it I would no longer have standard Slackware and not be allowed to ask for help |
| DarwinElf | i.e. if I removed KDE4 |
| pitriss | DarwinElf: ahh then you can give a try to qtcurve.. it really helps to other programs to look nearly the same as TDE ones |
| DarwinElf | ok |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 420 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=420 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , Keyboard cursor keys behaves strangely (non deterministic) in file dialogs |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2478 filed by bromichaelhenry@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2478 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Only way for GTK3 apps to use TDE Style is to install a GTK3 theme |
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| Space_Man | Fabio_-: passed |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Ēostre seems to be stuck in 'cleaning' |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'll take a look |
| SlavekB | by the way - another 'phantom' build - currently on Ēostre? |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/268116 |
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| pitriss | guys IDK how hard is to backport some kcontrol module from kde4 to trinity.. but something like kalternatives from wheezy would be really useful tool also in trinity. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2479 filed by chytrex@wjake.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2479 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , yaukake can't initialize scheme background image properly |
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| _CM_ | I guess the TDE project is dead not alot of people in here ? |
| SlavekB | This seems to you to be too old news? ;) |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/newsentry.php?entry=2015.07.10 |
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| TomTheDragon | for some reason, Trinity now seems incapable of opening pretty much anything |
| TomTheDragon | err, Trinity's KOffice |
| SlavekB | TomTheDragon: I know that some bugs are reported in Bugzilla. |
| TomTheDragon | I seem to recall mention of it being reported, but couldn't find it again. |
| TomTheDragon | hmm, 2423 looks like what I'm experiencing, but it's across the board. |
| SlavekB | bug 2423 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2423 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kplato cannot load an previously stored project |
| SlavekB | I think there are some other reports - for example about opening the ODF files. |
| TomTheDragon | I can't really see what would cause a regression such as that, as kofice really hasn't been touched. |
| SlavekB | now I only see bug 846 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=846 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kword can't open CookBook.odt |
| SlavekB | But I thought that there are more than this bug. |
| TomTheDragon | I'm doing an update just to see if this has changed. |
| TomTheDragon | By the way, what was the integration between TQt and Qt4? Just theming? |
| SlavekB | You mean qt4-tqt-theme-engine ? |
| TomTheDragon | perhaps that's what I've read about |
| TomTheDragon | I've noticed some Qt4 applications look indistinguishable from Qt3 |
| TomTheDragon | SlavekB: I do have one important question. Does the switch to udev mean Trinity is locked in to Linux? |
| SlavekB | The Trinity is still possible to build without tdehwlib - for example, with the HAL support. |
| SlavekB | Recently, for example, ran a successful progress in building Trinity base packages on FreeBSD. |
| TomTheDragon | That's good news. |
| SlavekB | See http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/freebsd?h=origin/r14.0.x |
| SlavekB | However, on FreeBSD is at this time one major problem with threads. |
| TomTheDragon | So I've been told with other things. |
| TomTheDragon | specifically related to threads |
| TomTheDragon | I've seen this, yet found that things would magically work in the Linux "emulator" |
| TomTheDragon | Which suggests broken userland API somewhere |
| SlavekB | I would like if it was possible to adapt tdehwlib to work also on FreeBSD, but it would probably be a very difficult task - and few programmers... |
| TomTheDragon | is it possible to implement some posix fallback of tdehwlib? |
| TomTheDragon | what advantages does tdehwlib have over HAL (or not installing HAL, if not a hard dependency) |
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| Matefan | hi all |
| SlavekB | Matefan: hi |
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| Matefan | why Mate Desktop don't show trinity desktop application in menu? |
| SlavekB | Trinity applications is located in /opt/trinity, which is usually not included in the searched XDG paths. |
| SlavekB | You can try to set the variable XDG_CONFIG_DIRS to include the /opt/trinity/etc/xdg and XDG_DATA_DIRS to include /opt/trinity/share. |
| SlavekB | For example: |
| SlavekB | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg:/etc/xdg |
| SlavekB | XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share |
| Matefan | thanks Slavek |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: it seems that both ppc64el builders are stuck due to the configuration of Kerberos. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: it seems that both ppc64el builders are still stuck due to the configuration of Kerberos. |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Let me take a look |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Should have the ppc64el builders back in service in the next hour or so |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: There was an unscheduled SAN outage; services are coming back online and should be restored in the next few hours |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: thank you |
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| beginningjockey | Hello |
| beginningjockey | Had a question: Is there any way to use a KDE3.5 theme on Trinity? |
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| pitriss | beginningjockey: hi, depends what you understand as theme.. if file with exported colors then yes.. |
| pitriss | beginningjockey: window styles should be compiled so they would need some love and porting I guess.. but color themes, superkaramba widgets etc works as on KDE3.5 |
| beginningjockey | So the .la and .so files I would have to get the source and recompile them for Trinity? |
| pitriss | I'm not coder but yep, i guess you will need to recompile them or maybe rename some things in sources.. there was porting guide on wiki |
| beginningjockey | Really? I couldn't find it |
| beginningjockey | I looked in the Makefile and source on a KDE3 theme and saw a bunch of stuff that would have to be changed but I didn't really know what the TDE equivalents were |
| pitriss | I can't help you with porting.. this is question for devs like kb9 or Slavek..:) |
| beginningjockey | Are they on this channel? |
| pitriss | hmm I can't find the guide so It maybe not exist.. it was some year ago when i saw something like that.. sorry..:) |
| pitriss | yep I intentionally didn't wrote their full nicknames to not higlight them:) But feel free to do so..:) |
| pitriss | but you can also file "bug" report with packaging request if you believe that your theme will be used also by others:) or just look into source of another theme and you can look if there are simmilar things:) with some trial/error method you can succeed:) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2480 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2480 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kate: set tab width from command line should refresh visualized page |
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| pitriss | ho guys. any ideas why krusader on wheezy 64bit doesn't open rar files? rest of archives looks ok.. but rar archives are opened by ark even when I have rar installed and krusader is set for opening also rar archives |
| pitriss | *hi |
| kb9vqf | not sure, what does 'file' have to say about your rar files? |
| pitriss | RAR archive data, v1d, os: Win32 |
| pitriss | RAR archive data, v1d, flags: Archive volume, os: Win32 <= this is correctly opened by krusader |
| pitriss | weird now its working |
| pitriss | maybe because i removed x-rar-compressed mimetype? |
| kb9vqf | possibly, yes |
| kb9vqf | I was going after a possible mimetype issue |
| pitriss | ok.. thanks.. |
| kb9vqf | no problem. |
| pitriss | when i modify user actions in krusader, after restart they are recreated from some system dir, can i consider this as bug? |
| pitriss | it looks like it accepts /opt/trinity/share/apps/krusader/useraction_examples.xml as useractions file.. maybe would be good to rename this file to have another suffix? |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2481 filed by chytrex@wjake.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2481 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , krusader recreate useractions.xml from useraction_examples.xml |
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| Windoze | is it ok to ask a question here? |
| pitriss | Windoze: Feel free.. |
| SlavekB | Depends on what you want to ask :) |
| Windoze | I am having trouble with adept package manager. It takes a very long time to load. |
| Windoze | almost 5 minutes of waiting |
| pitriss | i think speed is depend on speed of your pc and on how much repos you have added.. |
| pitriss | on my slow laptop was even kpackage really slow.. (i had too much source repos added) |
| Windoze | When I use synaptic, it loads instantly, but when I use adept it takes a long time |
| Windoze | And if I click anything before it loads it crashes |
| kb9vqf | Windoze: Adept uses a much older interface library than Synaptic, and as such the index search / load is not optimized |
| Windoze | So there is nothing really I can do to speed it up, right? |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1748 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1748 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , [Regression] Kdict applet crashes with no usable backtrace |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1315 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1315 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , KAlarm erroneously activating alarms |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2363 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2363 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , KAlarm should have option to list 'displaying' alarms |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 304 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=304 minor, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , KAlarm does not accept date changes to existing reoccurring actions |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 304 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=304 minor, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , KAlarm does not accept date changes to existing reoccurring actions |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2482 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2482 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [stdout/stderr] kalarmd: WARNING: TDELocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the program |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2483 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2483 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KAlarm: Add support for remote calendar servers |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2484 filed by chytrex@wjake.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2484 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Knowit forget "dock in system tray" setting and is unable to load last document when start |
| mirda | Hi, where is libreoffice-trinity repository for debian wheezy please? |
| pitriss | hello guys, is somewhere wheezy repo with this: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-tde ?? |
| SlavekB | One build is on: |
| SlavekB | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/libreoffice-tde-sb wheezy-backports main |
| pitriss | ok thank you:) |
| mirda | thank you:) |
| SlavekB | This build is based on the standard wheezy-backports version of LibreOffice - no additional packages, purely LibreOffice. |
| mirda | oki |
| SlavekB | The second advantage is that it is built with support for all environments - Gnome, KDE 4, TDE. |
| pitriss | it also needs libtqt3-mt (>= 4:14.0.1~pre4) but it wants to install 4:14.0.0-r225-0debian7.0.0+pr46 so I guess I will wait till R14.0.1 will be released.. |
| SlavekB | oh, yeah - it was built with TDE R14.0.1 preliminary. |
| pitriss | I don't want to break that fragile multiarch build enviroment:D Especially -dev packages are pain:D |
| SlavekB | However, almost all packages in the Preliminary Stable Builds repository are now in the final R14.0.1 stage. |
| pitriss | ok.. So we can expect release really soon or there are still some blockers? |
| SlavekB | Now, is underway build packages on official build-farm. |
| SlavekB | So - for now I do not know, because the build-farm is unavailable :) |
| pitriss | And is there any estimated time to finish that task?:) |
| pitriss | ahh |
| SlavekB | However, after completing the builds on build-farm will follow publication to official mirror. |
| SlavekB | I estimate about 14 days. |
| pitriss | ok then It can wait..:) |
| pitriss | I'm not using LO too much, so no problem.. |
| SlavekB | Official packages will be built from identical source packages, as they are now on the Preliminary Stable Builds repository. |
| pitriss | ok.. |
| pitriss | grrr I'm going nuts from kpilot..:/ On Lenny i had it working, with the same udev rules for creating /dev/pilot it is not working under wheezy.. :/ |
| pitriss | jpilot is working but without connection to standard TDE resources.. |
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| lynni | hi there! (: |
| pitriss | hi |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2485 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2485 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: tqmake converts absolute path to relative path (FTBFS in TQCA) |
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| K`zan | Dunno if that was for me, tried apt-get update again and got: |
| K`zan | Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net trusty/main Translation-en_US |
| K`zan | Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net trusty/main Translation-en |
| K`zan | Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net trusty/main Translation-en_US |
| K`zan | Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net trusty/main Translation-en |
| K`zan | Don't remember seeing any updates for TDE that I can remember (might not remember :)). |
| pitriss | I have the same..:) |
| K`zan | Thanks, I*'m not alone :). |
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| tbottu | 10rom_as@oscada.org changed the Status on bug 1362 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1362 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , KMJobViewer crash into freeing from different threads by kjobviewer one |
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| Space_Man | somebody on the mailing list is asking about translations |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: I recall you know something about translating trinity? |
| Space_Man | what is needed? |
| Space_Man | found a mailing list comment from Tim "Translations for TDE are still a bit of a complex area;..." 14/01/2015 |
| Space_Man | I guess he is still working on it |
| SlavekB | There are three things: |
| SlavekB | 1) for translations not exists web interface |
| Space_Man | http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::7535 |
| SlavekB | 2) can be use "po" files from GIT |
| SlavekB | 3) some texts may not be contained in the "po" files |
| SlavekB | Mentioned mail is good. |
| Space_Man | a nice web interface would be good, 1) login 2) select your language 3) translate some words and phrases 4) somebody can merge the changes |
| Space_Man | can the 'texts may not be contained in the "po" files' be found easily? |
| SlavekB | Tim some time ago prepared a tool for updating the 'po' files. |
| SlavekB | Currently, this updating is stopped. |
| Space_Man | another project I'm slightly involved in uses https://www.transifex.com/ |
| Space_Man | concentrate on finishing the current release |
| SlavekB | I intend to prepare a script for extracting the translatable files for a specific language from all git modules. |
| SlavekB | It could facilitate data exchange between translators and commiters. |
| Space_Man | that is a good idea |
| SlavekB | and translators would not have to deal with working with Git. |
| Space_Man | transiflex "Open source projects - Crowdsource translations for your Open Source project for free on Transifex with no word count limits. |
| Space_Man | I must go |
| SlavekB | see you later :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2486 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2486 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: tdeutils/superkaramba FTBFS on RHEL 5 |
| pitriss | hmm hmm I don't think that transifex is good idea.. It is not so much user friendly.. kbabel or how is that app called is much better |
| pitriss | I tried to help with translating the mana world (IIRC) into czech and they used transifex.. ..it was terrible pain.. I gave up when they told me that they don't accept translations from outside transifex.. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2487 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2487 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: libcaldav/libcarddav FTBFS with libcurl 7.15.5 |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2488 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2488 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: tdeaddons FTBFS on RHEL 5 because SDL is not detected |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2488 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1026 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1026 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TQt3 meta key support broken |
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| pitriss | hi guys.. Please does input actions check for existing keys? I have some issues with them and I don't know if its caused by input actios or by slow/too late loading of my xmodmaprc |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 640 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=640 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , .kthemestylerc.lock is created in $KDEDIR/share/config |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2489 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2489 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: tdegraphics (poppler-tqt) FTBFS when poppler is installed in non-standard location |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 640 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=640 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , .kthemestylerc.lock is created in $TDEDIR/share/config |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2490 filed by mrmazda@earthlink.net. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2490 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , bad URLs for openSUSE configuration |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2491 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2491 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kate: add Session List panel |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2489 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2489 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: tdegraphics (poppler-tqt) FTBFS when poppler is installed in non-standard location |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2492 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2492 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kate: add Panel manager |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2493 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2493 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: libksquirrel fails rpmlint test |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2493 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2494 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2494 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: tdebindings (smoke) FTBFS when not using TDE hwlib |
| tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2494 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2495 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2495 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: K3B cannot be built without tdehwlib |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2496 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2496 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: kima cannot be built without tdehwlib |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Njörun seems to be stuck |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/builders/njorun |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Aegir and Ēostre also seems to be stuck |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Had another SAN outage (cable was pulled quite accidentally). Thanks for the heads up |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: BTW I'm going to try to set aside enough time to generate the release tarballs later this week |
| SlavekB | source tarballs I have already available - I'll send the URL for rsync. |
| SlavekB | This is identical tarballs as 'orig.tar.xz' used for debian packages. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: url for rsync I sent in the mail |
| kb9vqf | I have a release script I run here to generate the tarballs |
| SlavekB | tarballs for r14.0.0 have small disadvantage that within the archive not contain version number |
| SlavekB | and also have a form that makes it impossible to use as orig tarballs for bundling packages |
| SlavekB | ...just my notes |
| SlavekB | *for building packages |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: one more note on the r14.0.0 tarballs - does not contains files .tdescmmodule + .tdescmrevision |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2497 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2497 major, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kvirc: irc protocol files not included in Debian/Ubuntu packages |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Thanks for the heads up. I am swamped even more than usual so it will probably need to wait until late this week |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2497 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2497 major, P1, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Kvirc: irc protocol files not included in Debian/Ubuntu packages |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2497 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2497 major, P1, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Kvirc: irc protocol files not included in Debian/Ubuntu packages |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Aegir seems to be stuck on cleaning |
| kb9vqf | restarting now |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: web services (www, cgit,...) seems to be unavailable |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Odd. I don't see a problem on this end, let me check further |
| SlavekB | access to build-farm web interface is ok |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Hmm, now I'm seeing the same faul |
| kb9vqf | *faul |
| kb9vqf | *fault rather |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Service should be restored |
| SlavekB | well, I can confirm also, for my side, now that everything is in order |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2356 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , kalarm possibly confused whether to use .trinity or .kde |
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| pitriss | Please what i need to have installed on wheezy to be able to have cpu core load in percents in kima?:) I had this working on KDE3.5 in lenny. |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 304 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=304 minor, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , KAlarm does not accept date changes to existing reoccurring actions |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2498 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2498 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kate addons: C++ symbol viewer does not work with all C++ highlighting styles |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2498 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2498 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , Kate addons: C++ symbol viewer does not work with all C++ highlighting styles |
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| msb__ | Does TDE work with BSD? |
| msb__ | Sorry, I see from the mailing-list that an effort is being made to do it. |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2491 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2491 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Kate: add Session List panel |
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| -adams.freenode.net- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | |
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| redlizard | Ohai. I'm using the most recent preliminary stable builds for debian jessie, and generally am very happy with it. Unfortunately, my multi-screen setup doesn't quite work: the monitor & display control center applet in which I can define a screen layout has an "automatically apply on startup" function, but this never triggers. |
| redlizard | I could resolve this with some autostart xrandr script mess, but that would fuck up starting applications that like to know how big the screen is. |
| redlizard | Are there known bugs related to this? Are there known solutions or workarounds? |
| redlizard | Brb testing a workaround. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2499 filed by juergen.heinemann.hjcms@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2499 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Crash with Context menu in Project Brwoser |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2499 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2499 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Crash with Context menu in Project Brwoser |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2500 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2500 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [EL6] Amarok complains of missing ruby |
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| wil_ | Hi guys. Do you know if Trinity will be build to Fedora 22? |
| SlavekB | wil_: better information can provide François Andriot on the mailing list. |
| wil_ | Ok, I'll try |
| wil_ | thx |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1907 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1907 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , Kate: add "Delete line" command to "Edit" menu |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2501 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2501 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kate/KWrite/TDevelop editor shortcuts need to be exported to embedding application |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1211 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , KControl: Some modules modify themselves without user intervention |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Just wanted to let you know that I finally got a chunk of spare time and have generated the release files and set them for upload |
| kb9vqf | I'll be in contact later this week / over the weekend for release tasks |
| kb9vqf | sorry for the long delay |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: good, I expect completion of the builds on Friday or Saturday |
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| tbottu | 10mrmazda@earthlink.net changed the Status on bug 2490 from NEW --- to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2490 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, bad URLs for openSUSE configuration |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2502 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2502 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kate: double click on Find in files result open another copy of a file already opened |
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| pitriss | Hi guys, is possible to set kate to apply code higlighting by shebang? |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Sources are now up: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/releases/R14.0.1/ |
| kb9vqf | will work on binary releases as soon as builds are done |
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| a-865 | Is https://www.tvfool.com/ reachable for anyone? |
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| pitriss | a-865: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/https://www.tvfool.com/ |
| a-865 | pitriss: thx. I always forget dfe exists. :-p |
| pitriss | yw |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Packages are syncing to the mirrors. Will touch base tomorrow regarding other release tasks |
| kb9vqf | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/ubuntu/trinity-r14.0.1/+packages |
| kb9vqf | in the next major release we will create a more generic updates repository to save disk space |
| kb9vqf | for now "14.0.1" will be deleted once 14.0.2 is available |
| SlavekB | on the mirror apt path will be as 14.0.0 or 14.0.1? |
| SlavekB | I am interested because of the package trinity-apt-archive. |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'm looking at this disk usage on the server and I may have to move everything back over to the 14.0.0 repository |
| kb9vqf | it's not ideal but there are limited resources here |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: After some verification it looks like I am forced to update the 14.0.0 repository. It should have been named 14.0.x but I didn't anticipate the disk space issues |
| kb9vqf | (well, actually I did, what I did not anticipate was the complete fallof of all donations. I don't have the funds available to update the storage array as a result) |
| kb9vqf | this just means I have to be a bit more creative about making sure everything fits on the server :-) |
| SlavekB | :) |
| SlavekB | Target name for apt repository will be 14.0.x? Or stay with current 14.0.0? |
| kb9vqf | 14.0.0 due to technical constraints |
| kb9vqf | I'll make sure that the next major release (R14.1.0) uses the trinity-r14.1.x scheme |
| kb9vqf | for now, we're stuck with trinity-r14.0.0 |
| kb9vqf | I'm attempting to minimize disruption of the existing userbase by synchronizing one distribution at a time |
| SlavekB | ok, I understand the reasons |
| SlavekB | In this case, there is no need to update the package trinity-apt-archive. |
| kb9vqf | sounds good |
| Space_Man | kb9vqf: how much will extra storage cost and is now - r14.0.1 release - a good time to ask for funds? |
| kb9vqf | Space_Man: I would be able to upgrade the array for $600 |
| kb9vqf | that would provide space for the next decade in all liklihood :-) |
| kb9vqf | There's more to consider than just the TDE packages themselves...the array also holds the entire Debian and Ubuntu package archives for every distribution we build for |
| kb9vqf | (it has to in order to build the packages) |
| Space_Man | is there anything else that needs upgrading in the near future? you could ask the community for $1,000 it's a nice round figure |
| kb9vqf | I would like to get the build farm going at a higher level as well, so yes |
| kb9vqf | I'll probably put something together to go with the release |
| kb9vqf | right now the packages are uploaded, which always takes too long :-) |
| Space_Man | could the packages be built locally and somewhere else, compare the filesize and md5/hash, if they match then use the 'somewhere else' packages |
| Space_Man | somehow make use of the cloud :P |
| kb9vqf | it would cost a lot more than that -- we're talking half a terabyte of data, so there would be annual service fees |
| kb9vqf | and I just don't see that kind of cash coming in to the project anytime soon :-) |
| Space_Man | nor do I :( |
| Space_Man | stick with the current system as it works |
| kb9vqf | I've been keeping the whole thing alive at a continuous financial loss because I use TDE heavily in business |
| Space_Man | thank you |
| kb9vqf | np |
| kb9vqf | my pleasure :-) |
| kb9vqf | and you should thanks SlavekB....while I've been too busy to do active development he's taken over |
| kb9vqf | and really helped keep things going |
| Space_Man | SlavekB: thank you |
| Space_Man | and some other people on the mailing list |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | I've kind of retreated (temporarly) into an infrastructure role until things ease up in Real Life |
| kb9vqf | but this is what good Open Source looks like |
| kb9vqf | fluid, without the egos involved :-) |
| SlavekB | I like to work on TDE, because I can not imagine my workstations differently than with TDE :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Same here :-) |
| kb9vqf | I tried XFCE the other day. It's not horrible but it is much less efficient |
| SlavekB | I once watched to the LXDE - usability is very limited. |
| kb9vqf | yes. compared to Gnome 3 though it's wonderful |
| kb9vqf | I still think the heirarchy is something like: TDE > Windows XP > Gnome 2 > KDE > XFCE > Gnome 3 |
| kb9vqf | in terms of usability |
| kb9vqf | ...although, our definition of "usability" is very different than others I think |
| kb9vqf | we're looking at things from a technical point of view -- the machine is a tool under our direct control |
| kb9vqf | "usability" typically means the machine guessing what the user wants and doing it |
| SlavekB | I once watched also RazorQt - was very unfinished, but very memory intensive - that would be "mark" of Qt4? |
| kb9vqf | yes, that would be correct |
| kb9vqf | Qt4 / Qt5 are not something I would want to code a desktop in -- a single app, yes, but way too heavy for an entire desktop (i.e. tens of thousands of widgets) |
| SlavekB | For this reason, for me, the merge of LXDE with RazorQt seems strange - limited usability + hight memory consumption. |
| SlavekB | Previously limited usability was possible to "apologize" by lower memory consumption. |
| kb9vqf | It is likely the developers are not aware of the actual issue -- there was so much FUD thrown around from both sides that no one knows what to believe, and most people will side with the larger community in that case |
| kb9vqf | KDE developers have always used the newest, most expensive machines and said "it works fine here" :-) |
| SlavekB | ...and I happily use TDE on EeePC 1005he with 1 GiB RAM :) |
| kb9vqf | Meanwhile I'm sitting here at my 5760x1200 workstation and enjoying the fact that I didn't have to build a $30,000 supercomputer to run KDE on it ;-) |
| kb9vqf | 32GB of RAM; almost all used with applications other than the desktop. Life is good. |
| SlavekB | :) |
| kb9vqf | I'm pretty sure I know where the bloat came in on Qt, but it was a design decision to go down that path |
| kb9vqf | and as such it will never be reversed |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: libr for jessie in build-deps-r14.0.0 although according to the version number is newer, is an older build that does not contain ppc64el packages. |
| kb9vqf | odd. let me handle it |
| kb9vqf | yeah, I see the copy failed nofitication |
| SlavekB | Exactly - the same message I noticed :) |
| kb9vqf | heh |
| kb9vqf | it may be a little bit before I can copy over the other package |
| kb9vqf | QuickBuild takes a variable amount of time to actually remove a deleted package, and won't let anyone copy over an older version of an existing package |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: copied |
| SlavekB | (Y) |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1610 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1610 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , KAlarm takes a long time to start the first time |
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| ne0futur | hi all |
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| ne0futur | https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/dev/2015-08/msg00338.html |
| ne0futur | cross posted on both mailing lists |
| ne0futur | mageia would probably be ok to include trinity if they have a |
| ne0futur | packagerpackager |
| ne0futur | could bean interesting step towards tde global acceptance |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2503 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2503 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KDCOP: add double click functionality to open/close non leaf items |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1211 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 normal, P1, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KControl: Some modules modify themselves without user intervention |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: by chance I noticed that you've copied a few packages into trinity-build-deps-r14.0.0 instead of into trinity-r14.0.0 |
| kb9vqf | which packages? |
| SlavekB | several packages for Maverick. |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/ubuntu/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/+packages?field.series_filter=maverick |
| SlavekB | start from the 'k' |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately it is not possible to make a filter based on version '4:14' |
| kb9vqf | Yes, I see them. I was wondering where those files ended up, now I know |
| SlavekB | :) |
| kb9vqf | It's easy to select the wrong PPA on the Web interface unfortunately |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: OK, I think I got it cleaned up now |
| kb9vqf | thanks for the heads up |
| SlavekB | I have to go, I'll be back in a few hours |
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| pitriss | SlavekB: hi, when i set nondefault welcome string in kcontrol's login manager, then it doesn't change welcome string in themed tdm.. is that bug or feature? |
| SlavekB | With themed TDM some settings are ignored. |
| pitriss | ahh but welcome msg seems to be present everywhere.. |
| SlavekB | Now I looked that it should be possible to take a "welcome-label" depending on the configuration. |
| SlavekB | Please, can you fill a bug report? |
| pitriss | yes i will do it now:) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2504 filed by devnull@wjake.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2504 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Welcome string from login manager should be applied also in themed TDM |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2503 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2503 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , KDCOP: add double click functionality to open/close non leaf items |
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| Konomi | hi my last update on debian stretch with trinity repos resulted in tde breaking |
| Konomi | I get the dialog on login |
| Konomi | "There was an error setting up inter-process communtions for TDE. THe message returned by the system was" |
| Konomi | "Could not read network connection list." |
| Konomi | "/home/user/.DCOPserver_testing__0" |
| Konomi | "Please check the "dcopserver" program is running!" |
| Konomi | the next dialog after clicking "Okay" is |
| Konomi | "Could not start tdeinit. Check your installation." |
| Konomi | after that the start up process of tde freezes and the desktop is unusable |
| MicheleC | we are publishing r14.0.1 packages to the mirror system. perhaps your update was incomplete due to that. For the record, I run TDE on stretch as well, although I build everything on my own |
| Konomi | any idea what I should do to rememdy it |
| Konomi | I'm using the following repo |
| Konomi | second need to vt switch |
| Konomi | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb |
| MicheleC | wait a day or two and try update again |
| Konomi | okay thanks |
| MicheleC | ah, that repo is already ok, no broken or mixed package |
| Konomi | I'll try another run at updating |
| MicheleC | it's Slavek's repo and usually it is updated "consistently" |
| MicheleC | are you running r14.0.x? |
| Konomi | yeah I had to switch to it due to the offical breaking |
| MicheleC | ok, try updating again. if still does not work, let us know during the weekend |
| Konomi | the settings on the repo line are |
| Konomi | stretch deps-r14 main-r14 |
| MicheleC | looks ok |
| Konomi | okay more updates are showing up |
| Konomi | hopefully they'll fix it |
| Konomi | thanks for the help ~ |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2504 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| MicheleC | no problem ;-) |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2504 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Welcome string from login manager should be applied also in themed TDM |
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| SlavekB | Konomi: update solve the problem? |
| Konomi | just waiting for it to finish slow dsl then I'll say ^^ |
| Konomi | SlavekB: it all works now |
| SlavekB | well, glad to hear it |
| Konomi | me too hehe |
| SlavekB | :) |
| Konomi | my significant opther is thinking of dumping kde4 to go to trinity because sick of bugs |
| Konomi | so I keep an instance in my vm for testing |
| Konomi | we get/are getting tired of kde releasing a new version after new version instead of finishing them off |
| Konomi | I switched to xfce didn't know about trinity at the time |
| SlavekB | I have to go... |
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| MicheleC | Konomi, I run into the same problem with Debian Stretch you run into yesterday |
| SlavekB | MicheleC: I think, you need to rebuild libr. |
| MicheleC | the problem is the update of binutils, so probably yes, need to rebuild libr and hopefully it will be ok. |
| SlavekB | Recently was updated buinutils and although libr0 not reported packages conflict, rebuild was necessary. |
| MicheleC | For reference, the problem is that tdeinit can not find libbdf-2.25-system.so because after the binutils update the file is called libbdf-2.25.1-system.so |
| MicheleC | so perhaps also need to rebuild tdebase as well |
| SlavekB | rebuild libr is sufficient. |
| MicheleC | ok thanks ;-) |
| Konomi | MicheleC: strangely it's working fine for me now' |
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| Konomi | maybe it'll break again |
| SlavekB | Konomi: MicheleC uses their own build. |
| Konomi | oh okay |
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| MicheleC | Confirmed, rebuilding libr is enough |
| MicheleC | BTW Slavek, currently pbuilder package is not available in stretch, so building with pbuilder for Stretch is currently failing |
| MicheleC | in Jessie and sid no problem, pbuilder is available |
| SlavekB | two weeks ago, I noticed that too. |
| SlavekB | fortunately, the basic system on my builders is now Jessie. |
| SlavekB | ehm, except ppc64el - this is based on Ubuntu Trusty :) |
| SlavekB | it seems that the Stretch is recently little broken. |
| MicheleC | it happens from time to time, its called "testing" for a reason ;-) |
| SlavekB | Recently, during update pbuilder base images for Stretch was uninstalled aptitude == base images becoming unusable. |
| MicheleC | yes, I noticed that too |
| SlavekB | On Ubuntu Wily now have also good problem - dpkg-genchages sometime ending with error in perl module. |
| SlavekB | So after a successful build and generate deb packages may fail on create the changes file. |
| MicheleC | thanks for the news, although I don't build for Ubuntu |
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| K`zan | Sigh, masive TDE update fails. After downloading 154 packages (chunk of the afternoon on both machines) it fails with: |
| K`zan | Fetched 122 MB in 6h 39min 44s (5,088 B/s) |
| K`zan | E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kmplayer-trinity/kmplayer-base-trinity_14.0.1-0ubuntu14.04.0+0_amd64.deb Connection failed |
| K`zan | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? |
| ne0futur | anyone is running trinity on a thinkpad ? no problem with kmixer and the mute/unmute thinkpad buttons ? |
| K`zan | Re-running update appears to end normally, restarting upgrade starts the massive download again :-(. |
| K`zan | Thoughts appreciated. |
| K`zan | ============= |
| K`zan | Really hate to download 145 packages again on both machines if it is going to just fail again? |
| K`zan | Well, that would be 3 machines, but I only had the upgrade running on 2 this afternoon. |
| K`zan | Dowload speeds have been slow... |
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| mirda | hello |
| mirda | ne0futur: I have TDE R14 on a T61 and there is no problem with mute button |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2504 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2504 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Welcome string from login manager should be applied also in themed TDM |
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| pitriss | hi guys.. I want to confirm that your repo (at least wheezy one) is way slower than usual. but it can be caused by many computers upgrading |
| pitriss | .or mirrors can be out of sync atm..:) |
| SlavekB | pitriss: is underway publishing r14.0.1 to official mirrors. |
| SlavekB | And because the line to the primary server has a low bandwith, is again overloaded. |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, not yet published news message on the home page, so begin to gradually come reports from users... |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1610 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1610 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , KAlarm takes a long time to start the first time |
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| K`zan | :-), Popular 'eh :-): |
| K`zan | Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu/ trusty/main kmplayer-base-trinity amd64 4:14.0.1-0ubuntu14.04.0+0 |
| K`zan | 509 Maximum Instantaneous Bandwidth Exceeded |
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| SlavekB | K`zan: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::8903 |
| K`zan | SlavekB: Thanks, linking now. |
| K`zan | SlavekB: Wilco, thanks again. Nice to know it isn't on my end :-)/ |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 420 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=420 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Keyboard cursor keys behaves strangely (non deterministic) in file dialogs |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2498 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2498 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Kate addons: C++ symbol viewer does not work with all C++ highlighting styles |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1748 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1748 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Kdict applet crashes with no usable backtrace |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 304 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=304 minor, P1, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, KAlarm does not accept date changes to existing reoccurring actions |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 1610 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1610 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, KAlarm takes a long time to start the first time |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2503 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2503 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, KDCOP: add double click functionality to open/close non leaf items |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2246 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2246 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, R14.0.1 official bug list (meta bug) |
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| pitriss | hi guys, i just updated my system to r14.0.1 and after logging into session i'm getting some message about error in XDG compilance something, error code 3 |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: great! it appears that the primary mirror synchronization is complete. |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2505 filed by andrew@schotty.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , The wiki is broken for EL installation instructions. |
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| kb9vqf | Quick heads up; the TDE servers will be going down briefly for updates |
| kb9vqf | services should be back up in the next hour or two |
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| kb9vqf | all services should now be back online |
| K`zan | tnx es 73 :-) |
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| johnney21 | Hey all, I'm running Debian 7 (Wheezy) with TDE 3.5.13 at the moment. I'd love to upgrade to Debian 8 (Jessie) and TDE 14. Any advice on this, should I upgrade to TDE 14 first? Is it problematic to upgrade from 3.5 to 14.0? |
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| SlavekB | johnney21: upgrade from v3.5.13.x to R14.0.x is described on wiki https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall#Upgrade_from_v3.5.13.x |
| SlavekB | However, now may be a bit of a problem when downloading some packages. |
| SlavekB | Currently is underway publishing R14.0.1 and a few packets is not yes available on the mirror. |
| SlavekB | Therefore, I recommend first run aptitude with -d option - to download only. |
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| johnney21 | Oh, didn't see those instructions on the install page, thank you :) Is there some kind of estimation when 14.0.1 is ... "fully"(?) published, or should it be enough to wait some days to make sure all packets are available on the mirror? |
| SlavekB | I originally thought that the packages are already fully synchronized. But as I soon discovered, missing are for example, libtqt-mt and tqtinterface that are indispensable basis. |
| johnney21 | Oh, okay :/ |
| SlavekB | I suppose synchronization will be completed in a few days. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2506 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2506 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [EL6] R14.0.0 -> R14.0.1 dependency conflict with SoundKonverter |
| johnney21 | Alright, thank you very much for your help :) |
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| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2009 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2009 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Background picture of MoodinKDE splash engine is not resized to fit the screen |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2507 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2507 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Update GTalk reference for Kopete documentation |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2009 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2009 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Background picture of MoodinKDE splash engine is not resized to fit the screen |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2508 filed by cetinv@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2508 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , 509 Maximum Instantaneous Bandwidth Exceeded |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Running through release tasks here; will probably release tomorrow |
| kb9vqf | sorry for the long delay everyone |
| kb9vqf | had to get some server issues under control (you will notices 4 x86 builders now available), and also wait for the files to finish uploading |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2252 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2252 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Circular dependency in tdesvn-trinity |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2489 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2489 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdegraphics (poppler-tqt) FTBFS when poppler is installed in non-standard location |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2488 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2488 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdeaddons FTBFS on RHEL 5 because SDL is not detected |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 654 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=654 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, kdelibs: cmake fails to detect crypt, alloca and dlerror |
| pitriss | SlavekB: if you are fixing some easy to fix bugs then 2481 .. imo its enough to rename one file (useraction_examples.xml) or rather point default to another file as loading example file is IMO stupid behavior.. |
| pitriss | and its really annoying because it breaks usability.. on smaller screen (mine is only 1280x1024) it break mouse move to other menus when that menu is bloated too much. |
| SlavekB | I added mentioned bug to list for bug 2468 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2468 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14.0.2 official bug list (meta bug) |
| pitriss | ok thanks very much |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2509 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2509 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Login from TDM fails after upgrade |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2510 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2510 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TMenu hangs on Wine submenu |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2511 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2511 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Icons missing after upgrade to R14.0.1 |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2509 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2509 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Login from TDM fails after upgrade |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2512 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2512 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Bug tracker URL mismatch in emails |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2513 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2513 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] Associate away messages with statuses in Kopete |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2514 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2514 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] Remove Jabber priority limit in Kopete |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I noticed a missing package tde-ubuntu-integration - I fixed it and now are waiting to copy - see email |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Copied |
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| kb9vqf | ...and release is done! |
| kb9vqf | thanks all for making this release a reality |
| kb9vqf | I am working on several new features for R14.1.0; you can see some of my preliminary commits recently regarding proper card detection |
| kb9vqf | I hope to be around more often here on IRC as well |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2508 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2508 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, 509 Maximum Instantaneous Bandwidth Exceeded |
| *** kb9vqf changes topic to "Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.1 is out [http://bit.ly/1X32ACW]! Get it at https://www.trinitydesktop.org Also, consider joining the Trinity mailing lists [http://bit.ly/hZ83mF]. IRC will be most active/helpful during business hours in the USA. BOTW #1998 Support the Project! [http://bit.ly/pmkMVB]" | |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: ping |
| SlavekB | I no sleep, yet :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: do any of the LibreOffice patches actually touch the source code, or are they all patches to the Debian packaging files only? |
| SlavekB | Patchees for LO is only "packaging" |
| kb9vqf | So the upstream code still works? |
| kb9vqf | I may have gotten somewhat confused on this issue |
| SlavekB | Trusty, Wheezy-bakports and Jessie are ok. |
| kb9vqf | Do you have updated LibreOffice builds available on QuickBuild or should I submit new builds? |
| SlavekB | but jessie-backports have problem. |
| kb9vqf | I completely overlooked the LibreOffice issue, so my apologies for that |
| SlavekB | So far I've not create my PPA for LO |
| kb9vqf | All right, I can handle the uploads for now. For some reason I thought I had already automated that process; I guess not :-) |
| kb9vqf | What I will probably end up doing is building LibreOffice with the updated packaging, then regenerate the official LiveCDs |
| SlavekB | I did not know if I can create my PPA for LO - because requires a lot of resources during the build. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I've been improving the infrastructure on this end so that we don't run into these kinds of problems in the future |
| kb9vqf | I hope that we can pull in some additional donations to help offset the cost of some of the upgrades including additonal disk space |
| kb9vqf | but the idea is to remove some of the restrictions historically present on the build farm |
| SlavekB | In any case, already at that time, I try to keep patches for LO in accordance with security updates in distributions. |
| kb9vqf | Since you're far more active on the LibreOffice stuff right now than I am (I'm going to focus more on the TDE core) let me rework the QuickBuild teams real quick here |
| SlavekB | Note - problem with LibreOffice from jessie-backports is described in bug 2448 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2448 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , LibreOffice 4.4.x (jessie-backports) with TDE integration |
| kb9vqf | Well that's not good at all |
| kb9vqf | Do we know if that's due to a change in the LibreOffice source? |
| SlavekB | LO from Jessie is ok. |
| SlavekB | From jessie-backports have problem. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I know it's a lot to ask ,but is there any way you would be able to bisect the fault in LibreOffice GIT? |
| kb9vqf | I should be able to patch it back out and get the patch integrated upstream if I know what caused it |
| SlavekB | bisect would probably require a lot of time. |
| kb9vqf | yes, but I have no idea what could have caused that kind of glitch, except for an unspecified change somewhere in the drawing code |
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| kb9vqf | the drawing code for LibreOffice is massive |
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| SlavekB | I could try to first rebuild packages for older version to find out where was begin of the problem. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, that might be an option |
| SlavekB | Whether it concerns the 4.4.0 or later. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Hold off on creating a LibreOffice PPA for now; I'm going to create it under a dedicated team but first I need to track down a database fault preventing me from doing that |
| SlavekB | Not a problem - for test builds I can use my builder. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, I know. I was referring to the main R14.0.1 update to generate new LiveCDs :-) |
| SlavekB | For now, just know that LO 4.3.3 is fine, but 4.4.2 has a problem. Therefore, I would try to first narrow down the range of official LO versions. |
| SlavekB | However, first of all I should be getting ready to sleep ;) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: You now have upload acces: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~libreoffice-trinity |
| kb9vqf | This wil lbe the official LibreOffice / TDE repository |
| kb9vqf | you can create a staging repository as well if you want |
| kb9vqf | I will be shutting down the other repository once the packages are moved over |
| SlavekB | great thank you. |
| kb9vqf | np |
| SlavekB | So I guess for now I can upload LO Trusty. |
| kb9vqf | Yes. I'm updating a few settings now, and will go ahead and create a staging repo |
| SlavekB | Upload thus I will make to stagging? A into main will be copied the final builds? |
| kb9vqf | That might be a good idea, yes. |
| kb9vqf | this time however you have permission to copy into the release PPA |
| kb9vqf | Upload here: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~libreoffice-trinity/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-trinity-staging |
| kb9vqf | then once verified copy here: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~libreoffice-trinity/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-trinity |
| SlavekB | Ok. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: OK, should be all ready to go. We might need to update the keyring packages with the additional PPA keys, but that can be done later on |
| SlavekB | Please dependence LO-staging on tde-nighly would be a problem. |
| SlavekB | Packages then would depend on tdelibs 14.1.0 == cannot be installed on stable TDE R14.0.x. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: You can change the dependency if you want |
| SlavekB | ok |
| kb9vqf | you should have full control |
| kb9vqf | (full non-administrative control, that is -- you should not be able to alter any system specific settings) |
| SlavekB | ok, dependencies changed for both. |
| SlavekB | ...and upload LO for Trusty into staging is underway. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Souinds good! |
| kb9vqf | Can you create/upload keyring packages for libreoffice-trinity as well? |
| kb9vqf | The main TDE keyrings would be a good template |
| SlavekB | ok, I prepare it. |
| kb9vqf | thanks :-) |
| SlavekB | However, now I should go to bed, so keyring package will be prepared tomorrow :) |
| kb9vqf | yes, get some sleep |
| kb9vqf | gn |
| SlavekB | thank |
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| pitriss | Hi guys.. is there also libreoffice-trinity for wheezy somewhere?:) |
| SlavekB | Actual packages are currently on alternative apt source: |
| SlavekB | deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/libreoffice-tde-sb wheezy-backports main |
| SlavekB | soon will be updated also on the official LibreOffice Trinity repository |
| pitriss | yeah I tihink i just found them here https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-tde-deletedppa/+build/134344 |
| SlavekB | "deleted PPA" in url sounds pretty accurately ;) |
| pitriss | ok. great.. BTW do I need to use whole LO from this repo or is enough to use LO-trinity package?:) |
| pitriss | hehe ok ok..:D |
| SlavekB | It needs to install the entire LibreOffice from Trinit source, otherwise will be in conflict versions. |
| pitriss | ahh ok..:) |
| pitriss | thank you |
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| Fleck | hey, how can I add panel to second monitor? |
| Fleck | Ahh, somehow I found a way, the first time I tried, I could not resize it, only main panel, but now I can :D so problem solved! |
| pitriss | great |
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| Fleck | help, when I set fullscreen video (in browser) on 2nd monitor and click somewhere in 1st monitor, panel shows up above video! :( |
| mirda | hi Fleck, do you mean flash video in youtube for example or some video plugin? |
| Fleck | yep, flash video, I can try vlc/smplayer |
| Fleck | same with smplayer |
| mirda | i don't use 2 monitors now but i remember, that flash video had a problems with 2 monitors |
| Fleck | didn't have problems in KDE4 |
| Fleck | and same for vlc |
| mirda | try various settings in that panel's settings, change hiding settings |
| Fleck | did that, can't find options that fixes this, I like that windows maximize full height-panelHeight |
| mirda | please try to write a bugreport https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL |
| Fleck | as I see this - should have option - allow other windows to cover panel but, report desktop size with -panelHeight |
| Fleck | or - allow video overlay windows have higher Z priority even if you can't cover panel with app, dunno how this work for kde4 |
| Fleck | with 1st one, maybe video will not be full screen also, thats not good |
| mirda | fullscreen video should overlap panel with any panel settings |
| Fleck | yep |
| Fleck | and it does, as long as I don't start using apps on 1st monitor |
| mirda | unfortunately i don't have there 2 monitors, otherwise i would try it :/ |
| Fleck | for now, I set auto hide for that panel... |
| Fleck | mirda: one more thing, maybe you know, when moving normal size window (not maximized) to the upper edge of screen, it maximizes, you know, is it possible in trinity? Like that feature... |
| mirda | Fleck: no, trinity doesn't have that feature IIRC |
| mirda | i know what you mean, i used it in KDE 4 |
| Fleck | ok :) |
| Fleck | yep |
| mirda | but you can configure TDE to maximize that window after a double click |
| Fleck | I did that, yes! :) |
| mirda | and you can configure some action for a mouse wheel rolling on that edge |
| mirda | i have it as roll up or roll down that window (it will hide into that edge) |
| Fleck | anyway, was using KDE3 back in the days, was cool and liked it a lot, yesterday I tried trinity, and I still like it! :) Dunno who keeps it alive, but thanks to them! |
| mirda | https://www.trinitydesktop.org/contributors.php |
| Fleck | yeah |
| Fleck | not so many |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2515 filed by Fleck@Rullz.lv. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2515 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , dual monitor setup with two separate panels and full-screen video playback |
| pitriss | Fleck: I don't use dual monitor setup but why not create 2 panels and align them one for one monitor.. then first panel will not affect second one |
| Fleck | what? I have two panels |
| Fleck | even title says that |
| pitriss | i didn't looked into bug report, i just read backlog |
| Fleck | sorry |
| Fleck | so yeah, I have two panels and panel on 2nd monitor is set to auto hide for now |
| pitriss | ah ok.. I had Kde3.5 on my workstation with dual monitors few years ago.. but u had panels on first monitor only.. |
| pitriss | *i had |
| Fleck | heh, trinity's site is anchor ;/ |
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| Fleck | http://imgur.com/Mp6VMtx |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2516 filed by devnull@wjake.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2516 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , krusader should have support for xz archives as they are quite common now. |
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| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 420 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=420 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , Keyboard cursor keys behaves strangely (non deterministic) in file dialogs |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2517 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2517 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Switching to VT terminates TDE session |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2517 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2517 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , [Regression] Switching to VT terminates TDE session |
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| tbottu | 10krisgamrat@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 2506 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2506 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [EL6] R14.0.0 -> R14.0.1 dependency conflict with SoundKonverter |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Looks like building libreoffice taxed everything somewhat more than I originally expected; the x86 builders will be offline (with a few exceptions for critical packages for my development work) for a while yet |
| kb9vqf | no disk space to build with unfortunately |
| kb9vqf | I'll give you a poke when they're back online |
| SlavekB | libreoffice need to build about 45 GiB of space |
| kb9vqf | Yes, so I found out the hard way |
| kb9vqf | When you are talking about 4 x86 builders, 2 ppc64el builders, and 2 armel builders that requires a 600GB disk |
| kb9vqf | which is more than I have available, so I'm having to manually stagger things at the moment |
| kb9vqf | err, 400GB disk. I can add :-) |
| kb9vqf | (note that the rest of the build system chews up several terabytes, so it's mostly a lack of scratch disk space that's the problem right now) |
| tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 420 from REOPENED to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=420 minor, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Keyboard cursor keys behaves strangely (non deterministic) in file dialogs |
| SlavekB | I noticed that, so I then repeated the crashed builds one after the other. But often it also came builds tdelibs, which are also relatively difficult. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, you accidentally masked the issue from me so I didn't take corrective action :-) |
| kb9vqf | Now that I'm aware of the requirements I'm trying to see if I can meet them |
| SlavekB | Incidentally, for Ubuntu Trusty have buildy successfully completed and copied to the libreoffice-tde. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, I saw that. Good work |
| kb9vqf | Now if we can just get the Debian builds back on track.... |
| kb9vqf | After the currently executing tdelibs builds are complete I'm going to take the x86 builders back down and try pointing them at a disk that has more free space |
| kb9vqf | Hopefully that will resolve this issue for now |
| SlavekB | I tried to upload also source package for Wheezy, but this has repeatedly had problems already at acceptance to ppa. |
| kb9vqf | problems? |
| kb9vqf | ....although it won't fix the fact that I simply don't have the space on any array to add support for Stretch or any other Ubuntu distribution (still need some donations to cover the disk costs otherwise it will be a few months until I can fund that upgrade) |
| SlavekB | Yes, although orig.tar packages are identical with an already uploaded for Jessie. |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: mail just flies :) |
| SlavekB | hmm, now I have a problem with the internet on my side. |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Can you try an experiment for me regarding the wheezy libreoffice upload failure? |
| kb9vqf | Can you try to increment the package number and see if the issue persists? |
| kb9vqf | I've looked around for that Error 29 issue and it might be an unresolved dpkg bug, not sure |
| kb9vqf | if the upload works with a different version number it's OK, you're only using ~300Mb additional space which is a far cry from the nearly 100GB a new distribution requires :-) |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: x86 builders tentatively back up, we'll see how it goes |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: what should be the official apt path for libreoffice-tde - http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/libreoffice-tde/ ? |
| SlavekB | Anyway, this path is now empty on the mirrors... |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2518 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2518 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KGPG not displaying keys when signing files |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2519 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2519 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KGPG not displaying keys when signing files |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'll get the mirrors syncing on that path |
| kb9vqf | It will take a little while to get the mirror system working for that path; I may need to give you a different one |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2520 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2520 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Upgrade server overloaded, and is missing from the status reports |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: The correct path to use is: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/libreoffice-trinity |
| kb9vqf | That path should be syncing to the mirrors now |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Were you able to get the Wheezy packages to upload? |
| kb9vqf | Also, I've made some tweaks to the armel/armhf builders, so the builds might complete this time around |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I was some time away from the computer. |
| kb9vqf | That's OK -- I haven't exactly been available for quite a while lately ;-) |
| SlavekB | with LO for Wheezy, I made several other attempts, but so far all failed. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: They all failed with that dpkg error 29 or whatever it was? |
| SlavekB | error 29 |
| kb9vqf | and you tried a new version number as well? |
| SlavekB | I have observed that failure always seems to libreoffice_4.3.3.orig-translations.tar.xz - I tried to repackage it into bz2, failed again. |
| SlavekB | I tried to upload to another PPA, where no such orig.tar.xz - failed again. |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Must have gotten on an overloaded IRC server yet again...what was your response to my query above? |
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| SlavekB | I repeat all that I have just sent :) |
| SlavekB | All failed with error 29 |
| SlavekB | I have observed that failure always seems to libreoffice_4.3.3.orig-translations.tar.xz - I tried to repackage it into bz2, failed again. |
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| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: I manually forced a different server, let's see if I can hold the connection now :-) |
| kb9vqf_ | What I was trying to ask was if you had incremented the LO version number and still received the error? |
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| SlavekB | Once again, repeat the previous report? :) |
| kb9vqf | yeah |
| SlavekB | All failed with error 29 |
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| SlavekB | I have observed that failure always seems to libreoffice_4.3.3.orig-translations.tar.xz - I tried to repackage it into bz2, failed again. |
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| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: Not sure why I keep getting kicked off, but it looks like I get disconnected every time I paste a specific file name |
| kb9vqf_ | I was wondering how much disk space the translations file takes up when it is decompressed? |
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| SlavekB | 1,4G translations |
| kb9vqf_ | Hmmm, that shouldn't be a problem |
| kb9vqf_ | A quick Google search did show that there was a dpkg bug causing an Error 29 result |
| SlavekB | 2,6G libreoffice-4.3.3/ |
| kb9vqf_ | but I don't know why we'd be running into it now |
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| kb9vqf_ | ...and there's my alter ego ;-) |
| SlavekB | but it is strange that the same orig.tar.xz been successfully uploaded within Jessie package. |
| kb9vqf_ | Yes it is strange. There is one other thing I can think of, let me reconfigure the server and let you try again |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2521 filed by marcelo.escobal@gmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2521 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Installation of TDE breaks Unity and Gnome Desktops |
| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: Can you try uploading again? |
| kb9vqf_ | I can't leave the server configured this way for more than a few hours but it should be enough for a quick test |
| SlavekB | I will upload without orig.tar.xz - it will be very fast. |
| kb9vqf_ | ok |
| SlavekB | dput: Successfully uploaded packages. |
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| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: I see the upload, monitoring.... |
| SlavekB | It is an advantage that orig.tar.xz are identical and already uploaded :) |
| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: Hmm, I think I might see the misconfiguration. You said the entire upload decompresses to 2.6G? |
| SlavekB | $ du -chs libreoffice-4.3.3/ |
| SlavekB | 2,6G libreoffice-4.3.3/ |
| SlavekB | $ du -chs libreoffice* |
| SlavekB | 2,6G libreoffice-4.3.3 |
| SlavekB | 308M libreoffice_4.3.3.orig-external.tar.xz |
| SlavekB | 1,4M libreoffice_4.3.3.orig-helpcontent2.tar.xz |
| SlavekB | 143M libreoffice_4.3.3.orig.tar.xz |
| SlavekB | 122M libreoffice_4.3.3.orig-translations.tar.xz |
| SlavekB | 2,4M libreoffice_4.3.3-2+tde1+deb8u1~bpo70+1.debian.tar.gz |
| SlavekB | 20K libreoffice_4.3.3-2+tde1+deb8u1~bpo70+1.dsc |
| SlavekB | 20K libreoffice_4.3.3-2+tde1+deb8u1~bpo70+1_source.changes |
| SlavekB | 4,0K libreoffice_4.3.3-2+tde1+deb8u1~bpo70+1_source.lo_tde_staging.upload |
| SlavekB | 3,2G total |
| kb9vqf_ | Yep, that's the fault |
| kb9vqf_ | your upload will go through this time |
| kb9vqf_ | I need to allocate more space for the upload processor in the future |
| SlavekB | But it is strange that the upload for Jessie was completely without any problems. |
| kb9vqf_ | thanks for uploading while I was able to monitor the server :-) |
| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: No, not really -- the configuration change was made after the Jessie uploads exposed a serious bug in the upload processor that damaged other services |
| SlavekB | Well, that explains it :) |
| kb9vqf_ | yep, sorry for the inconvenience |
| kb9vqf_ | I had to rework quite a bit of the build system to get the LO builds to work in the limited disk space available |
| kb9vqf_ | but they should continue to work as long as you don't try to build four LO packages at once |
| kb9vqf_ | :-) |
| SlavekB | yeah - but one upload causes build for all platforms simultaneously :) |
| SlavekB | That's why I had not dared to create my own PPA for LO. |
| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: I should rephrase that: As long as you don't cause four simultaneous x86 builds everything will work |
| kb9vqf_ | You can have two x86, two PPC64, and two ARMEL/ARMHF builds going simultaneously with no problems |
| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: It looks like your upload went through, so we'll test what I just said ;-) |
| SlavekB | Great - also I got an email with the announcement of the successful upload! |
| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: The packages from the official LO release PPA are syncing to the mirrors now |
| kb9vqf_ | just use the URL I posted earlier |
| kb9vqf_ | (actually, it's the same URL as the earlier obsolete PPA with the broken LO packages in it) |
| SlavekB | Yes, here I have ready package libreoffice-trinity-apt-archive. |
| kb9vqf_ | Just for confirmation, which URL did you use in that package? |
| SlavekB | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/libreoffice-trinity/ubuntu |
| kb9vqf_ | OK, looks good! |
| kb9vqf_ | I'll update the LiveCD builder now |
| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: Does this build failure mess anything up? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~libreoffice-trinity/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-tde/+build/276047 |
| SlavekB | This package is at this point uninteresting - the current versions are for Trusty, Wheezy and Jessie. This package is just for Precise. |
| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure |
| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: Can you go ahead and copy over the libreoffice-trinity-apt-archive package to the production PPA? |
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| SlavekB | I will upload it for a small moment. |
| kb9vqf_ | ok |
| SlavekB | uploaded into the queue |
| kb9vqf_ | SlavekB: Thanks |
| kb9vqf_ | When that's published I'll update the LiveCD builder |
| SlavekB | Great. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Did you have a chance to bisect the Debian Stretch LO failure? |
| SlavekB | Note: From libreoffice-tde probably then be able to deleted other additional packages for Wheezy. |
| SlavekB | I'll try to find time. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: No rush, we won't be able to release anything based on Stretch for several months |
| SlavekB | Last week was awful. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: You should have access to delete packages from the LO repositories |
| kb9vqf | Well, please don't feel any pressure from me. I've had to withdraw much more than I'd like to from TDE over the past year :-( |
| SlavekB | Incidentally, for KOffice will need to address a change dependency libwv2 => libwv. |
| kb9vqf | for Strech? |
| kb9vqf | *stretch rather? |
| SlavekB | stretch and wily. |
| kb9vqf | OK |
| kb9vqf | Both of those are waiting on the disk space increase unfortunately |
| SlavekB | libwv retired from distribution. |
| SlavekB | That's okay - for testing are already available in the preliminary-stable-builds. |
| kb9vqf | I'm also thinking we need to close out Bug 1998 before building for those distros |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1998 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED , systemd - user session tracking/multiseat implementation required |
| SlavekB | It's not downright necessary. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I thought David Rankin was running into all kinds of problems due to that bug? |
| SlavekB | necessary cooperation TDE with systemd is already in place. |
| kb9vqf | I'll try to look into it over the next few weeks |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | I haven't really caught up with the current systemd status :-) |
| kb9vqf | so far all I've seen is a major increase in difficulty debugging system service failures as a result of the switch |
| SlavekB | David fixated, that non terminating tdeioslave processes are caused by the lack of cooperation with systemd. |
| SlavekB | But it was repeatedly proved that it has no relation to systemd. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| SlavekB | Because non terminating tdeioslaves was also on my Squeeze :) |
| kb9vqf | well in that case the bug title should probably be changed; I was under the impression that something major (multiseat support) was broken due to systemd |
| SlavekB | David but simply fixated that is due to systemd and would not let go of that thought :) |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I think, support for systemd multiseat may be an advantage for TDM, but it is not necessary for normal use. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: So there is no regression then (i.e. multiseat the way it worked before systemd is still functional)? |
| SlavekB | Yes, I believe it should continue to be functional in 'old' way. |
| SlavekB | It seems that in all experiments with LO I probably made a mistake, because the uploaded package for Wheezy has a dependency on ucpp, which is incorrect :( |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Don't worry about it, just fix it and increment the version number |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I also changed the server configuration to the corrected production setup; you can let me know if the upload works |
| SlavekB | Ah, now I see where began the problem with ucpp! |
| SlavekB | During my build, I had the name of distribution 'wheezy-backports', while for upload to build-farm I had change it to 'wheezy'. But in the 'rules' is an extra condition for wheezy-backports. |
| SlavekB | Updated LO for Wheezy successfully uploaded! |
| kb9vqf | Glad to hear it |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: libreoffice-trinity-apt-archive for Trusty in libreoffice-tde is publised |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2522 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2522 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KsCD causes massive hang after setting CD-ROM device |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2522 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2522 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , KsCD causes massive hang after setting CD-ROM device |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: New i386 CD image candidate is up, aside from the fact that it isn't built against the R14.0.0. repository does it look good for release? |
| kb9vqf | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-09-05-2015-i386.iso |
| kb9vqf | That image uses the new LibreOffice packages |
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| JX7P | evening folks, i'm wondering what the fastest way to install trinity on freebsd is? |
| JX7P | i find the website is very slow |
| JX7P | perhaps an https issue, not sure |
| JX7P | further, the download link leading to http://ppa2.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/releases/R14.0.1/downloads.html is broken |
| SlavekB | JX7P: it seems that the line to the primary server is now burdened by synchronizations to the mirror. |
| SlavekB | JX7P: For install on FreeBSD you need to use 'ports' and build from source. |
| SlavekB | FreeBSD ports are available for final R14.0.1 and are in tde-packaging git repository - branch r14.0.x. |
| JX7P | SlavekB: ah, that's good to hear, thank you. i look forward to giving trinity a try |
| SlavekB | See: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/freebsd?h=origin/r14.0.x |
| SlavekB | Currently are prepared ports for primary packages - applications will be later. |
| SlavekB | In addition, there is one serious bug with threads - bug 2462 |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2462 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [FreeBSD] Crash in threads tdm, kdesktop,... |
| SlavekB | Therefore, we welcome someone who is experienced in FreeBSD and could help with fix this. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: We moved forward - all the amd64 and i386 bulids of LO are successfully completed! |
| SlavekB | Build on ppc64el still bravely running. |
| SlavekB | But builds on armhf and armel are uncertain - sometimes odd crashes, sometimes crashes on internal compiler error. |
| SlavekB | JX7P: If you had a problem getting FreeBSD ports from git, I can send tarball. |
| JX7P | SlavekB: unfortunately i can't access anything hosted on the site at all - except for the most simple pages - so i would appreciate it very much, thanks |
| SlavekB | I'm not sure whether it will work to transfer files via IRC - can you give me mail where to send the package? |
| JX7P | SlavekB: sure: davidjx8p@gmail.com |
| JX7P | unfortunately it seems the transfer is not working |
| SlavekB | JX7P: mail is in flight :) |
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| JX7P | SlavekB: thank you, it's arrived :) |
| JX7P | unfortunately, my own conncetion is abysmal so it may be a while until i can build |
| JX7P | that being said, i've missed KDE 3.5 since i last used it as my main desktop in 2009. if trinity and I should get along - and I suspect we will - i am interested in working on FreeBSD issues |
| JX7P | and, indeed, other ones as well - if i can understand qt, anyway |
| JX7P | out of interest, why is there a dependeny on fmake/ |
| JX7P | *? |
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| JX7P | SlavekB: unfortuntaely, tqt3-psql-plugin does not build: src/sql/drivers/psql/qsql_psql.h:47:10: fatal error: 'libpq-fe.h' file not found |
| JX7P | it appears a postgresql dependency is missing |
| SlavekB | Yes, it is possible that dependencies is not perfect. |
| SlavekB | Patches are welcome. |
| SlavekB | JX7P: about fmake - when I tried to build tqt-x11-free using gmake, it was not successful. |
| SlavekB | it's weird - in tqt3-pgsql-plugin/Makefile is: |
| SlavekB | USE_PGSQL= yes |
| SlavekB | I assumed that it automatically makes the necessary dependencies. |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: armel/armhf I can't do much about right now. There are LibreOffice mailing list threads regarding that internal compiler error but with no resolution |
| kb9vqf | ppc64el may or may not complete anytime this century ;-) |
| kb9vqf | JX7P: Where did you find that incorrect download link? |
| kb9vqf | The correct download link is https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases/R14.0.1/ |
| kb9vqf | If the bad link is up somewhere on the TDE site I'd like to fix it :-) |
| SlavekB | With LibreOffice it can also be of interest on amd64 - I built on a machine with 12 cores and there was a failure. I reduced the number of parallel build threads to 8 and was successful. |
| SlavekB | JX7P may have found not a bad link, but currently unavailable. |
| SlavekB | All the pages were today during the whole day difficult to access. |
| JX7P | http://ppa2.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/redirect.php?file=releases/R14.0.1/downloads.html <- this was the broken one |
| JX7P | it redirected to ppa2.quickbuild[and so on]/release/R14.0.1/downloads.html |
| JX7P | but it's working now it seems |
| JX7P | SlavekB: unfortunate news: artsplayer.cpp:(.text+0xd93): undefined reference to `Arts::disconnect(Arts::Object const&, std::string const&, Arts::Object const&, std::string const&)' |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, the armel/armh failure could very well be related to parallel make. I have no way of limiting the number of make threads spawned on the server side however; that would need to be handled in the packaging files |
| SlavekB | wow - armhf build of libreoffice 1:4.3.3-2+tde1+deb8u1~bpo70+1a is successfull! |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Weird |
| SlavekB | Note - staging repository size: |
| SlavekB | 7.7 GiB (96.25%) of 8.0 GiB |
| kb9vqf | I think I can bump that up |
| kb9vqf | done |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I think I understand why the Jessie builds are failing, I just haven't figured out how to work around it yet on the arm[eh|hf] builders |
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| pet3s | hi |
| mirda | hey |
| pet3s | someone knows how to get TDE working on debian-testing? |
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| SlavekB | pet3s: you can use preliminary-stable-builds packages |
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| SlavekB | JX7P: were you able to move forward, or a problem with tdemultimedia persists? |
| JX7P | SlavekB: unfortunately the problem has persisted, i tried to clean up everything and rebuild but to no avail |
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| SlavekB | JX7P: I tried to rebuild tdemultimedia on my test machine with FreeBSD and problem for me not occurred. I'll have to try a complete rebuild. However, it will be up sometime later. |
| JX7P | SlavekB: I can try it out on another machine or a VM in a while |
| SlavekB | Incidentally, into dependencies/tqt3-pgsql-plugin/Makefile you can try to add: WANT_PGSQL=server |
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| JX7P | SlavekB: I am now preparing a build in a Poudriere jail |
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| TomDragon | Hey, I've been here before. Not reporting a bug this time ;) |
| kb9vqf | Hi! When's the last time you used TDE? |
| TomDragon | hey kb9vqf I still use TDE, just haven't updated in a while ;) |
| kb9vqf | great! |
| kb9vqf | just curious as we have a whole lot of users on verious versions, and some still coming off of KDE 3.5.x |
| TomDragon | I need to update, to see if koffice is finally fixed, see if it's a debian-only issue, etc |
| TomDragon | hmm, that's interesting |
| kb9vqf | *various rather |
| TomDragon | I've also found a bunch of Gentoo users who wanted to try Trinity, unfortunately I'm not a gentoo guy myself. |
| kb9vqf | Yeah, and not too many people know how to generate the overlays |
| kb9vqf | I don't use Gentoo either and really have no idea how to go about doing that |
| TomDragon | Yeah. Is there a possibility of packaging Trinity in a distro-neutral form, or is that too good to be true type stuff? |
| kb9vqf | All we can really do is provide the source |
| kb9vqf | ...which we already do :-) |
| TomDragon | Well, of course. I do remember the horror story of building 3.5.x quite some time ago. Perhaps that's a little smoother now though. |
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| kb9vqf | Yeah, we've tried to make it smoother, but it's still going to be more complex than a single package ;-) |
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| Vasistha | I just installed a newer version of iceweasel (firfox), and was happy with it, so I set it as my default browser. Then, when I clicked on it it crashed. Then icedove (thunderbird) crashed. Now I cannot start either of them - OR google chrome - they all get a segmentation fault after briefly displaying a window |
| SlavekB | Vasistha: you can try to choose a theme for gtk different than gtk-qt-engine |
| Vasistha | SlavekB: ah that is a good idea, I will try, thank you! |
| Vasistha | in fact I think I will straight up uninstall gtk-qt-engine, it has given me HUGE headaches in the past :) |
| SlavekB | Yes, I also watched crashes in the past. |
| Vasistha | huh, it is not even installed. hmm. |
| SlavekB | and tqt theme for gtk3? |
| SlavekB | and kgtk3-trinity? |
| Vasistha | oh - thanks, will look those up too |
| Vasistha | gtk3-tqt-entine-trinity, kgtk-qt3-trinity, gtk-qt-engine-trinity - all not installed |
| Vasistha | in fact nothing matching gtk.*qt is installed, which includes all 3 of those packages and a couple others |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: As I watch, just now got to jessie-backports LibreOffice 5.0.1! Therefore, first I try to build with TDE integration LO 5.0.1. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Sounds good |
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| * TomTheDragon just got curious, is there any copyright threat in using the KDE3.5 mascot? | |
| * kb9vqf thought the dragon, like the rest of KDE, was copyrighted under some type of open source license? | |
| * TomTheDragon was under that impression as well | |
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| troffasky | can trinity be installed at the same time as kde on debian? |
| Fleck | yep |
| troffasky | great, anyone using trinity in an x2go session? |
| troffasky | kde5 is pretty much unusable in x2go so i'm looking to, er, downgrade |
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| JX7P | right, gnome 3 has just irked me for the last time |
| JX7P | it's time to try and find out what that bizarre issue is i think |
| JX7P | http://pastebin.com/Fn8Jy7E3 here's the result |
| TomTheDragon | troffasky: I've run trinity applications over native X11 and it's not terrible |
| JX7P | http://pastebin.com/JmQs7WWr ok...this is going to be a lot harder to just comment out |
| TomTheDragon | Wait, there is a port of Trinity? What OS? |
| JX7P | freebsd |
| TomTheDragon | Ah, FreeBSD. Was wondering if that was actually around for NetBSD. |
| TomTheDragon | That's good news that Trinity seems to be spreading. |
| JX7P | tdemultimedia-trinity_14.0.1/tdeioslave/audiocd/plugins/lame/encoderlame.cpp attempts to include endian.h on freebsd; it tests for openbsd and includes the appropriate headers, that test should cover freebsd also |
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| JX7P | well, it's not 100% stable |
| JX7P | but i have trinity on freebsd now :) |
| TomTheDragon | yay, JX7P |
| JX7P | bizarre crash whenever i try to start kmix http://pastebin.com/2e4LUKRK |
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| SlavekB | JX7P: ha, I see that you are building on FreeBSD 11 - while I tested on FreeBSD 10.1 |
| SlavekB | The problem with linking Arts already becoming familiar to me - I ran into a similar problem on Debian and Ubuntu in connection with the transition to GCC 5.x == cxx11. |
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| JX7P | right, now to find out how to adapt an old Kate plugin to work with TDE Kate |
| JX7P | unfortunately the infernal thing is written in Autotools |
| JX7P | all of this junk for 4 source files |
| JX7P | thank you very much SlavekB, btw, for your work on bringing Trinity to FreeBSD |
| JX7P | i had to add --without-libarts to configure for tdemultimedia in order that it would work, and then after hacking the arts references out of the plist was able to use it |
| JX7P | i don't suppose there is an extant file browser tree view plugin for Trinity-Kate, is there? |
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| JX7P | i'm very much enjoying my experience with trinity so far. it's a level of comfort i haven't felt since good old suse and kde3.5. thanks for your efforts, all |
| JX7P | perhaps the most rattling problem is that typing '/' at the start of konqueror's address bar immediately causes it to hang |
| JX7P | as does trying to enter a name into its open-with dialogue's 'search for a program' bar |
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| JX7P | interesting: firefox now freezes when i try to do 'open containing folder' on a download |
| JX7P | side note: take a look at this http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/WebkitGTK+KParts+for+konqueror%2BKDE+3.5?content=161554 |
| JX7P | someone wrote a K-Part so that Konqueror 3.5 may use WebKitGTK+2.0 as its renderer, might be nice to upstream to trinity |
| pitriss | yes it can be great at least as alternative |
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| SlavekB | JX7P: Oh, it looks very interesting. |
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| JX7P | it may if nothing else provide a vehicle as well for investigating a port of WebKit straight to TQt |
| JX7P | there exist special versions of webkit designed for a very abstract non-existent toolkit that have been adopted everywhere from televisions to amiga |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: LibreOffice for Wheezy is successfully built for all architectures and published into libreoffice-tde. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Great! |
| SlavekB | currently is underway on my builder build LibreOffice 5.0.1 - jessie-backports. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: BTW I have an update for tdelibs that will be pushed shortly to resolve some of the recent build failures on ancient distros |
| SlavekB | LO build for Jessie on armhf still successfully progressing. |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: We might have a new record for longest running yet successful build, assuming it doesn't die while packaging: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~libreoffice-trinity/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-trinity-staging/+build/276196 |
| JX7P | oh, LibReOffice |
| JX7P | the second slowest build i ever felt |
| JX7P | after Apache OpenOffice.Org |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: tested - rendering problem persists in LibreOffice 5.0.1 |
| SlavekB | In addition, was disabled the package with crystal icon theme :( |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: both arm builders seems to be stuck on cleaning |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Builders are now resetting |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: By the way, build LO on ppc64el is successfully completed! |
| SlavekB | However builds on the arm repeatedly strangely fail. |
| kb9vqf | I understand the reasoning but have no workaround right now |
| kb9vqf | basically the arm builders don't have enough RAM to do a full parallel build |
| kb9vqf | attempts to add swap aren't working |
| SlavekB | aha, I did not know this. I just noticed that sometimes crashes although not remain available buildlog. |
| kb9vqf | I haven't had a whole lot of time to debug that particular issue either. Is there any way to disable parallel build on certain architectures in the LO packaging files? |
| SlavekB | Yes, it is possible to set the environment variable DEB_PARALLEL_JOBS. |
| SlavekB | Either can be set in a build environment, or in the 'rules'. |
| kb9vqf | Ah, let me see if I can enforce that on the builder then |
| kb9vqf | I assume it is taken from the external environment? |
| SlavekB | So, in my build script I have: |
| SlavekB | export DEB_PARALLEL_JOBS=`LANG=C lscpu | sed -n "s/^CPU(s): *//p"` |
| SlavekB | and for packages for which I know about problems with parallel building: |
| SlavekB | export DEB_PARALLEL_JOBS=1 |
| * kb9vqf is attempting to locate the Launchpad override now | |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: arm[el|hf] builder configuration updated. Now to see if it actually works... |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Thank you! |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: thanks for pointing me in the right direction as well. I had a dim memory of the env var name but would have had to spend some quality time with grep to get the exact variable name ;-) |
| SlavekB | By the way, in my build script I have literally: |
| SlavekB | # known problems with parallel builds export DEB_BUILD_PARALLEL=true case $package in tdebindings-trinity|tdegames-trinity|tdemultimedia-trinity|bibletime-trinity|gwenview-trinity|kbfx-trinity|kmplayer-trinity|knetworkmanager8-trinity|koffice-trinity|kvirc-trinity|qt4-tqt-theme-engine) export DEB_PARALLEL_JOBS=1 ;; *) export DEB_PA |
| SlavekB | d -n "s/^CPU(s): *//p"` ;; esac |
| SlavekB | Therefore, these variables I remember very well :) |
| kb9vqf | heh |
| kb9vqf | I don't remember there being that degree of parallel build problems though |
| SlavekB | I repeatedly encountered problems with parallel build on these packages. |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: turns out the environment is quite different on QuickBuild (no surprise there), but I've tweaked the appropriate settings and hopefully the current builds will finish without problems (though around 3x slower than they would have otherwise) |
| SlavekB | ok |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::9092 |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: unfortunate that in the tarballs you do not generated .tdescmmodule and .tdescmrevision |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: excellent, builds LO is getting close to the final! |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I believe the issue with the release generation system has been corrected; I have regenerated the R14.0.1 source tarballs and they are uploading now |
| kb9vqf | Can you do a quick double-check for me? |
| kb9vqf | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/releases/R14.0.1/R14.0.1-complete.tar is already available on the mirrors |
| SlavekB | Ok, I'm downloading it... |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Incidentally, I just noticed another url, for which was blocked access from VPS to primary server: /rom-0 |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, you are hitting a number of IDS rules. We are going to have to figure out a better way to do this otherwise the communication to the primary server will continue to be automatically cut off |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I would suggest you use a 301 redirect for now so that the VPS doesn't originate bad traffic |
| SlavekB | I was create another condition for rewrite rules. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: That will rapidly become a losing battle -- these days new malware pops up so often you'll be changing the rules every few days |
| kb9vqf | you might consider installing Snort somewhere on that box to block the bad traffic, though I don't know how well that will work on the same host |
| SlavekB | 301 unfortunately could not solve providing contents from the cache == were fewer requests to a primary server. |
| SlavekB | I'll try to explore Suricata, she also can use Snort rules. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, that might work |
| kb9vqf | basically we need a proxy that will translate even evil requests into something sane that the master server can just return 404 for |
| kb9vqf | I would think something like that should exist given the overall trend toward caching edge proxies |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: BTW you might want to try out the latest tdelibs / tdebase sources; I have added a new system tray applet to manage disk device mount / unmount and in the process streamlined the notification system |
| kb9vqf | we no longer have the autoplay dialogs by default |
| kb9vqf | instead you get a small, unobtrusive popup in the corner of the screen which, when clicked, brings up the autoplay dialog |
| kb9vqf | I seem to remember there was a feature request regarding the ugly winxp style popups but I can't seem to find it on the bugtracker :-/ |
| SlavekB | About proxy: for now I can turn off proxy to primary server - for CGIT interface proxy is not needed. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, go ahead and disable that for now; all it is doing is severing the connection between the master and the VPS due to the malicious traffic |
| pitriss | guys i wanted to ask.. Do you know some better dbus libnotify dameon than default? Its quite too much simple.. and fact it can stretch across whole screen is bit annoying |
| pitriss | i googled a lot to find something which can have set geometry, but infortunately latest dunst can't be compiled on wheezy:( |
| kb9vqf | pitriss: TDE comes with a dbus notifier daemon, have you tried it? |
| kb9vqf | kdbusnotifier-trinity |
| pitriss | i'm actually using it but.. that stretching is really annoying as you can't read its content because you didn't know where it will start.. |
| kb9vqf | pitriss: It shouldn't stretch across the screen -- can you send a screenshot? |
| kb9vqf | It should just stack over in the lower right hand corner of the screen |
| pitriss | its poping out in right bottom corner.. but start of its content is somewhere between left top corner and its location.. |
| pitriss | yes i can.. wait sec. |
| kb9vqf | pitriss: go ahead and poke me when you have it |
| pitriss | http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zcn503&s=8 |
| pitriss | kb9vqf: done:) |
| kb9vqf | pitriss: Ah, OK, I see what you mean. My question to you is, what would you prefer to have the daemon show when there is that much text in the notification? |
| pitriss | jabber client vacuum-im is using this as default notification and this stretching is quite annoying.:) |
| pitriss | just start of text ended by "..." as mark that this is no more space? |
| kb9vqf | pitriss: So maximum character limit then? |
| kb9vqf | How wide can the dialog be? Full width, half width, etc.? |
| kb9vqf | Personally I'd probably truncate at 1/3 screen width and 5 lines |
| pitriss | yep or just possibility to set geometry and clip rest? |
| kb9vqf | I never considered that anyone would abuse the notification system so badly :-) |
| pitriss | yep sounds good.. |
| kb9vqf | I'll play with it some |
| pitriss | me too.. but.. vacuum im just send whole message to it and it looks messy then:D |
| pitriss | ok thank you very much.. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: R14.0.1-complete.tar is already updated on mirrors? |
| SlavekB | I compared the official tarballs with tarballs, which are used as orig.tar.xz for deb packages: |
| SlavekB | In applications/kpilot and tdepim is removed file .emacs-dirvars.diff => it probably does not matter to anyone. |
| SlavekB | In dependencies/avahi-tqt/cmake is file .git with content: gitdir: /mnt/jdata/tde/autobuild/tde/main/dependencies/avahi-tqt/.git/modules/cmake |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: but tdenetwork is still version 14.1.0! |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: tdenetwork has not uploaded yet |
| SlavekB | tdenetwork extracted from R14.0.1-complete.tar |
| SlavekB | I have downloaded R14.0.1-complete.tar, extract all contents and compare with my tarballs |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: That is strange. I wonder if I gave you the link too soon; can you check the sha512sum of the tarball? |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: It should be: 261c91577f45eecb8e28ddf37dadf87d6432a33797ce643f8d75f80f5e7c3607772a8f723e1de302bfec209167e021789165fb6696dd183fd06e72946d7ab1ab R14.0.1-core.tar |
| SlavekB | I have to download it again, because I removed it in the meantime ... |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: There was an error in the release generator where it did not actually check out the release tagged version from GIT, however that has been corrected and the tarbalss _should_ be generated from the R14.0.1 tagged sources at this point |
| kb9vqf | *tarballs rather |
| SlavekB | For the previous verification, I downloaded "complete.tar". |
| SlavekB | Now I'll download core.tar |
| kb9vqf | Let me grab the sha512 sum of that |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: f81e8edc3aa3cbfcefd3a721a65758deab81bc3f99ccd3981b1951a39d7e0b5ea98f56e13f8011cb01e0ed4539e5fc07e585fb1a287c83be7bc8a780dd6a9881 R14.0.1-complete.tar |
| kb9vqf | both should be up on the first mirror by now |
| SlavekB | I removed previously downloaded complete.tar, so I have to download it again. |
| SlavekB | Now comes downloading core.tar quite slowly. So it will take some time. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: OK. Thanks for double checking anyway; I was fooled once before and would prefer not to make the same mistake twice ;-) |
| * SlavekB goes meanwhile eat... :) | |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: it seems that the tar is not yet published on the mirror - sha1sum of core.tar is different: cea787276bff148d2e48c36787cbc4bba8edfe9b *R14.0.1-core.tar |
| SlavekB | oh, sorry... I use sha1sum :( |
| SlavekB | d68651f7857b51a0ba239bd6a6ea5831de9b788db6bda2d4a631cfdd3c67cb2d761e18a162fc44d78807838820bb4c9e07dec3e837ceae3518bf64a6e4367a09 *R14.0.1-core.tar |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Well that explains that :-) |
| kb9vqf | Give it 24 hours and check again I guess |
| kb9vqf | If the tarballs look good I'll post an announcement on the site |
| SlavekB | yeah, I'll try it later. |
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| kb9vqf_ | pitriss: I have updated the notification system in GIT hash 70526c5 (tdelibs). If you get a chance to test it out let me know if it works better for you! |
| kb9vqf_ | It is now limited to 5 lines of vertical text and 1/3 of the screen max width |
| kb9vqf_ | it will display ellipses where appropriate when these limits are overrun |
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| pitriss | hmm i tried to compile tdelibs but i'm lost in dependencies.. :/ sorry.. |
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| JX7P | ugh, freebsd deinstalls trinity when i pkg upgrade |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Did you have a chance to redownload / recheck the R14.0.1. source files? |
| kb9vqf | All files should have fully uploaded some time ago |
| SlavekB | a little while ago, I downloaded R14.0.1-core.tar :) |
| SlavekB | Well, in tdenetwork/CMakeLists.txt I see: |
| SlavekB | set( VERSION R14.0.2 ) |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: although after downloading R14.0.1-core.tar at first glance looked good, after downloading R14.0.1-complete.tar is more trouble than it was before. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: How so? |
| SlavekB | 1) in tarballs is contained folder 'debian' with version 14.1.0 stated in changelog. |
| SlavekB | 2) tarballs correspond to R14.0.2~pre, not R14.0.1 final. |
| SlavekB | 3) tdenetwork is again R14.1.0, not R14.0.x |
| SlavekB | until now that I realized that in the R14.0.1-core.tar is tdenetwork R14.0.2~pre. |
| SlavekB | but is contained libtdevnc, that correspond to R14.1.0~pre |
| SlavekB | It is strange that in R14.0.1-core.tar is tdenetwork R14.0.2~pre while in R14.0.1-complete.tar is tdenetwork R14.1.0~pre. |
| SlavekB | ...while both are wrong :) |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Very strange. I will check the generator again |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I think I found the issue with the release tarballs (incorrect error handling leading to stale sources being packaged0 |
| kb9vqf | it will take a while to generate and upload new tarballs |
| kb9vqf | Also, primary TDE services will be going down shortly for maintainance |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: ppc64el builders remains offline? |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: ppc64el builders remains offline? |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: No, they are just slow to start up |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: No, they are just slow to start up |
| kb9vqf | BTW libtdevnc did not have a R14 branch or a R14.0.1 tag |
| kb9vqf | BTW libtdevnc did not have a R14 branch or a R14.0.1 tag |
| kb9vqf | I have corrected that issue; release tarballs are still being generated |
| kb9vqf | I have corrected that issue; release tarballs are still being generated |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Branch mess in libtdevnc cleaned up and release generator updated; new tarballs are uploading now |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: ok |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I verified a few of the tarballs already; they appear to be the correct version and contain the correct set of files. Can you double-check when the upload is complete? :-) |
| kb9vqf | 64d0a16366258b69a37f3f04ace404a3cad96d41bd31b676fd8a0689c57d76e3cd6057173549862ec61c78b630b27df8abc86153c0f9e51f492f342e4a78f44d R14.0.1-core.tar |
| SlavekB | Yes of course |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: By the way, you're looking at commit list page on vps? http://37.205.10.16/patches/ |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: So you are generating that all via cgit? |
| SlavekB | yes, all - list for html page, links for [view] and also links for download diffs. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Do you have access to the web development GIT repository already? |
| SlavekB | Yes, vps is synchronized with the primary server regularly without complications. |
| kb9vqf | OK, I couldn't remember if you were on the web development team in SCM or not |
| SlavekB | I have prepared and automatic addition of new submodules from tde/.gitmodules to cgit interface. |
| SlavekB | yeah, I do not have access to web development git repository. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Just ask, I'd grant it :-) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Quick glance looks interesting, I would suggest you commit the code to GIT on the master TDE server so that it can be backed up (assuming you're OK with it being contributed back to the project)... Also, there seems to be a discrepancy between your generator and the official generator, can you investigate? |
| kb9vqf | Compare https://trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=&start=100 with http://37.205.10.16/patches/?start=100 |
| kb9vqf | note that the commits are different |
| SlavekB | on master server are mixed master and r14.0.x branch into one list |
| kb9vqf | Yeah, just saw that :-/ |
| kb9vqf | not sure why I did that actually |
| SlavekB | on vps is branch selected by combo :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: So are you using a database or just directly parsing cgit output? |
| SlavekB | output from git log is saved into files and web page read these files |
| SlavekB | each branch is in one file |
| SlavekB | list of patches are updated after update repositories for cgit. |
| kb9vqf | Interesting, I'll have to take a look. I would initially have scalability concerns but it seems to be working fairly fast in practice |
| SlavekB | I thought about using a database for a list of patches, but work with files seems to be also fast enough. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Email sent with access to the web development repository |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Thank you! |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: As I mentioned, the update of git repositories and generating lists of patches usually takes about 3 minutes. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Filenames in /patches/publishing/ are composed in the same manner, as on primary site, but files are not real - are published from cgit interface by php small script. |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: On the official list of the patches there are sometimes very confusing data - see example: https://trinitydesktop.org/patches/?start=220&batch=60 |
| SlavekB | Many patches that have stated the master branch, but apparently they are from a branch r14.0.x. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: What's confusing? |
| SlavekB | In log is "cherry picked from commit..." |
| SlavekB | And appropriate patches from the master branch not displayed. |
| * kb9vqf goes to look into it | |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Patchset generator should be fixed; updating now |
| kb9vqf | Most of the wasted time is spent generating patch files |
| kb9vqf | ...which brings up an interesting point -- if all of the patches are generated on the fly from CGIT, I wonder if the patch interface is going to go down when you get crawled by a search engine, or if cgit is smart enough to prevent that (I suspect the latter) |
| SlavekB | Yes, that's an interesting point. |
| SlavekB | For now I do not know what will be the behavior of patch interface + patches directly from CGIT, when search engine comes to visit. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Incidentally, it is also a bit misleading reported date of patches. Hours are in fact in your local time, but the time zone is added original from the patch. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Good catch on the date/times |
| SlavekB | In patch list on the vps is used the date printed directly by git (log format %ai) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Master cgit interface now shows branches |
| SlavekB | great |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Iincidentally, is actually something that would prevent to switch CGIT interface from master server to vps? |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Nothing I can think of right now |
| kb9vqf | just need to find time to set up DNS, etc. |
| kb9vqf | is that IP address stable/ |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| SlavekB | yes, fixed ip address |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/ |
| kb9vqf | we need to wait for the DNS to propagate, then I'll update the links on the main page |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: This is odd; I tried to use this URL to access the patch list and the page layout broke: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?start=100 |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: If you have a minute, can you look at Bug 2530? I don't see the reported failure on the build farm or my local machine so I'm not 100% sure what's going on there |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2530 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Build issue: Git tdelibs FTBFS |
| SlavekB | I examined the source code and it seems to me that's fine. Later I'll try it on my builder. |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: for information: I added on patches list that when searching for hash sought also "cherry picked from a commit ..." - that makes it easy to find whether the patch was backported. |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: for results of exploring latest R14.0.1 source tarballs see mail |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Thanks! |
| kb9vqf | I'm curious as to the origin of the deleted emacs file though, so might look into that before issuing a final update |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: By the way the links on the main site for GIT were just updated. You should see an increase in traffic over the next few days; you'll know when the search engines start hammering the site ;-0 |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: ok :) |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Maybe I can install awstats on vps, we might have some insight. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, it would be interesting. I have had stats packages on the main site for many years now |
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| kb9vqf | a-865: correct |
| a-865 | :-) |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Just a quick heads up; I'm overhauling the main site patch generator so it won't be updating for a while |
| kb9vqf | should be much, much better when done (using some of your ideas but with an eye toward speed) |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: note, script and php page used on vps you can find in trinitydesktopdevelopmentwebsite git repository |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, that's what I was looking at for inspiration. ;-) I still want to use the database, etc. so am rewriting the main generator to do so |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: script on vps was modified to work on set of 'bare' repositories, however originally was used "git submodule foreach" |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: My goal is to get runtime down to very small durations, and also to avoid any stalls when accessing patch files (even the large ones) through the on-disk cache. The original generator was designed when GIT was much less powerful, and as such was extremely inefficient |
| kb9vqf | Yours is a big step forward, but at this point I'd like to see what I can do with it to make it run in basically real time |
| kb9vqf | (and have a backup in case the VPS solution turns out to have issues at any point down the line ;-)) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: BTW did you get a chance to look at the new hardware device monitor tray applet? |
| SlavekB | Unfortunately, not yet. |
| SlavekB | too many tasks at work... |
| kb9vqf | Yes, I know the feeling :-) |
| kb9vqf | Was looking for some constructive criticism on it |
| kb9vqf | unfortunately with the nightly builds not publicly available people aren't testing as much as they have in the past |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I had the idea that we could use apt-mirror and synchronize to vps only selected distributions and architectures from nightly-builds. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Have you seen an increase on VPS load yet? |
| SlavekB | the load is still minimal. |
| kb9vqf | I'm contemplating pusing the patch cache out to the VPS once I finish the new generator |
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| SlavekB | so far the largest transferred volume was my test of git clone on tdelibs :) |
| SlavekB | http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgi-bin/awstats.pl |
| kb9vqf | Gotcha |
| kb9vqf | well, give it time. the traffic is bursty |
| kb9vqf | though overall the heaviest traffic is not to the cgit interface ;-) |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: What do you think about the idea of using apt-mirror and synchronize to vps only jessie and trusty for amd64 and i386? |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Well, fundamentally that's what the primary mirror system is for, no? |
| kb9vqf | In any case the general idea isn't bad; we could pick one distribution and allow public access to only those nightly builds |
| kb9vqf | I'd suggest the one most likely to have bugs, i.e. Debian Stretch when I get it up and running |
| SlavekB | I assumed that the primary mirror thanks to rsync synchronizes always everything. |
| SlavekB | while with apt-mirror can be adjusted selectively distributions and platforms. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Please can you allow access to nightly-builds from ip address 31.7.243.166 (ie mail.axis.cz)? |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: What do you want it for? If you just want to rsync down I can grant access to that area |
| kb9vqf | otherwise if you want HTTP access I can reenable that as well... |
| SlavekB | I meant for use as an apt source on my test machine :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: OK, let me enable that |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: okay, no rush |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Can you try it? |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: 500 Internal Server Error |
| SlavekB | on test machine I have Debian Squeeze |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Typoed the file, try again? |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: it looks successful up to http code 509 :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yep, I see some stuff in the logs. Hang on |
| kb9vqf | Haven't had to do per-IP access for the PPAs until now ;-) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Try again? |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: In any case, for me now is the morning, so I just have to start getting ready for the travel to work, so now it really no rush for apt repository :) |
| kb9vqf | Yes, it should be working now in any case. |
| SlavekB | again http code 509 |
| kb9vqf | I see multiple accesses but not from the IP you gave |
| kb9vqf | Are you using an outbound IP starting with 128 or 9? |
| SlavekB | $ host mail.axis.cz |
| SlavekB | mail.axis.cz has address 31.7.243.166 |
| kb9vqf | oh wait |
| kb9vqf | well, that's interesting |
| kb9vqf | I see the internal IP of your host ;-) |
| SlavekB | :D |
| SlavekB | 192.168.0.103? :) |
| kb9vqf | yep |
| kb9vqf | I'll work on this and let you try again tomorrow ;-) |
| SlavekB | It comes from me through a transparent proxy (squid). |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: If you're still up want to give it one more quick try? |
| kb9vqf | Had to adjust the Apache config |
| SlavekB | it looks good, no error message (Y) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Thanks for testing |
| kb9vqf | It'll be the same slow uplink we all know and love, but it should work... ;-) |
| SlavekB | Sure, exactly as I expect it :) |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Quick heads up; in your patchset generator script you need to hard reset to origin/$BRANCH before trying to get the GIT logs. The way you have it now it will eventually stop working in a had to diagnose manner :-) |
| kb9vqf | *hard to diagnose rather, specifically that new commits for certain modules won't show up |
| * kb9vqf found this out the hard way trying to speed up execution | |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I got execution under 10 minutes. You took some shortcuts on your end that will eventually need to be fixed, which is probably why your runtime is shorter. In particular you are relying on an external fetch, and you will eventually run into stale lockfiles / conflicts |
| kb9vqf | https://trinitydesktop.org/patches/ is back up and running |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Mian site updates the patch list every 15 minutes to save I/O operations right now; there is definitely room to decrease latency but I need to rework some of the underlying system configuration first |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Also, I'm noticing a discrepancy between the main site and your generator, with yours having fewer commits available for each branch. Can you look into this? |
| kb9vqf | Thanks! |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: In the patch list generator on vps is no need to give origin/$BRANCH, because the repository are clonned as 'bare'. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: In the patch list generator on vps are filtered commits 'Reset submodule...' - see: grep -av "Reset submodule .* to latest HEAD" |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I've updated the 'About' page to include information about R14.0.x releases. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: patch list generator on vps is slightly updated - was added commits from master 'tde' repository and removed commits from infrastructure/website |
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| Borg^Queen | hello to all |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: About page changes propagated to master |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Long hashes on commit history looks weird - take up much space. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, I was looking at that |
| kb9vqf | IIRC the standard is 7 characters? |
| SlavekB | formerly was used 8 characters |
| kb9vqf | OK, will use that |
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| kb9vqf | updated |
| SlavekB | you considering also extend search to hashes in "(cherry picked from commit"? |
| SlavekB | see example: |
| SlavekB | http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=a486f914&branch= |
| SlavekB | http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=a486f914&branch=r14.0.x |
| SlavekB | and on master: |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=a486f914&branch=master |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=a486f914&branch=r14.0.x |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I could do that, yes |
| kb9vqf | you will note on master you can view all commits across all branches :-) |
| SlavekB | Yes, I noticed :) |
| SlavekB | it looks good. |
| kb9vqf | Updated to handle hash search |
| kb9vqf | technically that also enabled full text search |
| kb9vqf | e.g. this works: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=XkbGetIndicatorState&branch=r14.0.x |
| SlavekB | By the way, references [First Page] [Previous Page] [Next Page] [Last Page] on master site not retain the adjusted value of 'batch' |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| SlavekB | Yeah, full text search is a good idea! |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?branch=master&search=&start=50 |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?branch=master&search=&start=50&batch=50 |
| kb9vqf | you can search by module as well... https://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?branch=r14.0.x&search=[tdebase] |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'm somewhat confused...what are you saying is wrong with the batch parameter? |
| SlavekB | batch value is correctly used for "previous" and "next", but the batch value will be forgotten after the use of the link. |
| SlavekB | Compare result of use 'previous' and 'next' on master: |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?branch=master&search=&start=30&batch=10 |
| SlavekB | and on vps: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?branch=master&search=&start=30&batch=10 |
| kb9vqf | Oh, you are saying it forgets on navigation. Let me fix that :-) |
| kb9vqf | Fixed |
| SlavekB | still remains a problem with the local date × original time zone |
| SlavekB | example: |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=e32c0805&branch=master |
| SlavekB | http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=e32c0805&branch= |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'll look at it. This is a somewhat sensitive area because the provided data can be interpreted two ways by the user |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I added per-module search to the main page |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I've looked further into the date/time issue, and if you compare https://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=3d05c875&branch=master with https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde/commit/?id=3d05c875 you can see that the main difference is cgit converting the displayed time to GMT, while the patch interface shows the time in the committer's original timezone |
| kb9vqf | One isn't "wrong" per se, but I can see where the confusion is arising :-) |
| SlavekB | http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=3d05c875&branch=master ;) |
| SlavekB | Date in CGIT is displayed in GMT. |
| SlavekB | On mirror site is displayed in original timezone. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Since it was confusing I went ahead and change the master to just report GMT |
| SlavekB | On master site is displayed in your local timezone + GMT by original time zone. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, the master site was displaying the commiter's local time |
| kb9vqf | now it is using GMT to reduce confusion |
| SlavekB | no commiters local, but your local :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Is it correct now? |
| SlavekB | compare my previous example: |
| SlavekB | http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/thirdparty/commit/?id=e32c0805 |
| SlavekB | http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=e32c0805&branch= |
| SlavekB | http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/?search=e32c0805&branch=master |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Hmmm, that's interesting. I guess GIT is feeding me iffy data |
| SlavekB | Commit I really pushed in my 1:00 (am) == 23:00 by GMT. |
| kb9vqf | (preconverted to local TZ) |
| SlavekB | I use a git log format: %an |
| SlavekB | sorry, %ai |
| SlavekB | It returns correct time by commiter. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Looking closer at this I have the correct GMT dates in the database, I just wasn't labelling them as such on the commit page |
| kb9vqf | Let me try something |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Fixed :-) Was using the wrong formatting function in the Web frontend |
| SlavekB | (Y) |
| kb9vqf | Note to self: date() shifts the provided timestamp by the server TZ, gmdate() does not :-P |
| kb9vqf | so we now have a fairly poweful, much faster patch frontend. Hopefully it sees some actual use ;-) |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: When generating commit history ever stopped, users often pointed to it => users probably really use this list. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes,you are probably correct, and if I wasn't so lazy I could check the statistics on it ;-) |
| kb9vqf | If you have further ideas on how to make it better just let me know -- all the information is in the database so we can really pull out anything we want to fairly quickly (on the fly) |
| kb9vqf | much better than the dozens of GIT repos scattered on disk ;-) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'm still trying to figure out how .emacs-dirvars got deleted from the release tarballs |
| kb9vqf | I fixed the extra directories but there's nothing here that should be deleting those files |
| kb9vqf | ...then again maybe I see it :-) |
| SlavekB | yet there is strange that in tdenetwork not been deleted submodule libtdevnc. |
| kb9vqf | more of a not copied becase they were dot files, oops |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yeah, I found the issue with the extra directories. The cleanup script was lacking the second f to clean the submodules after branch change |
| kb9vqf | Will regenerate shortly and you can recheck tomorrow or the day after |
| SlavekB | Ah, that explains it. |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: New source packages have been published and should be accessible in the next 24 hours. The small issues you had noted should be fixed. |
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| Polygon6789 | do you provide support for trinity here? |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2531 filed by mkl@blackshift.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2531 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , fails to parse desktop files with more than one enty |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2532 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2532 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] Option to change filemanager background in Konqueror |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2533 filed by tmw@autotrain.org. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2533 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Missing task bar on a laptop with a "part time" external monitor |
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| danorby__ | I cannot get ELF file to run when I double click on them. They are setup as executables, but a double click asks "Open With...." but when I open terminal in the folder and I run via the terminal it works. |
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| pitriss | danorby__: try chmod +x yourexecutable first |
| pitriss | For me i get this dialog when executable is not marked as executable..:) |
| danorby__ | Actually when I re-installed a program it seemed to have fixed the problem. |
| pitriss | ok:) |
| danorby__ | I don't get it, but then there are alot I don't get. It is solved and that is good. |
| danorby__ | Thanks though. |
| pitriss | Youre welcome:) |
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| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2534 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2534 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEHWLIB : TDE detects USB external cd/dvd burner as floppy disk drive |
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| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2534 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2534 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDEHWLIB : TDE detects USB external cd/dvd burner as floppy disk drive |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: You need to update the Debian/Ubuntu packaging files for this commit: https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdebase/commit/?id=d6572f16 |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: on the contrary - tde-packaging expected names tdehwdevicetray, which was the reason for the previous FTBFS tdebase :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Gotcha :-) |
| kb9vqf | I was looking for a commit pair and only saw the one... |
| SlavekB | I looked into code hwdevicetray , and I think it will be good also change the name of the catalog for localizations from hwdevicetray to tdehwdevicetray. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: As you can tell I was somewhat undecided on whether or not I needed the tde prefix |
| kb9vqf | I don't like using it but it may be needed to avoid conflicts... |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: exactly - hwdevicetray is sufficiently generic name, so it may cause a conflict. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: If you want to change the executable name go ahead; it might not be a bad idea to also change the source file names if you do that |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I remind you that the executable from the beginning have name tdehwdevicetray :) |
| kb9vqf | Yes, I guess I mean update all the supporting files for consistency |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Have you had a chance to bisect the LO regression yet? |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: so far I have not found enough time. |
| kb9vqf | I understand completely (same problem here) |
| kb9vqf | thanks for the update |
| SlavekB | I'm trying to keep patch updated for jessie-backports, although the result is not usable :) |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2535 filed by midi-pascal@videotron.ca. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2535 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kooldock 0.4.7 port to TDE R14.0.1 |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Can you handle Bug 2535? I created the kooldock GIT repository but have not uploaded any sources to it |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2535 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kooldock 0.4.7 port to TDE R14.0.1 |
| kb9vqf | When the sources are up I'll add it to the autobuild system |
| * kb9vqf is currently busy adding stretch to QuickBuild | |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2535 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2535 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , Kooldock 0.4.7 port to TDE R14.0.1 |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: the usual Trinity build-deps already waiting in my PPA to building |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Thanks! |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Script for automatically adding new submodules to cgit on vps was successfully tested! http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/kooldock/ |
| tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2535 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2535 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Kooldock 0.4.7 port to TDE R14.0.1 |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Great! |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Autobuild system and master cgit updated |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I noticed that the first building kooldock in nightly-builds fail because submodules admin and cmake are not checked out. |
| SlavekB | if I now do commit to kooldock, it will be already okay? |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: As long as you update the submodules files the system will rebuild correctly, yes |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: on armel and armhf occurs chroot problem: W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net stretch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F7F996A600A58606 E: Release file for http://archive.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/debian/dists/stretch/Release is expired (invalid since 1h 59min 39s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Did the Debian key just change? |
| kb9vqf | Hmm, nope, that's our key |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: on my pbuilder I not noticed problems with the gpg key |
| kb9vqf | Hpwever, the error is against the Debian key |
| kb9vqf | It's not all chroots: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/ubuntu/trinity-nightly-builds/+build/280481 |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Link to failing build please? |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: It started so manifest until some time ago. |
| SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+builds?build_text=&build_state=chrootwait |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Oh, I see the problem |
| kb9vqf | The Stretch release file (published by Debian) has a rather short expiration |
| kb9vqf | ...and the archive mirror update job hasn't completed yet |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: By the way, in your script to create orig.tar.xz tarballs obviously missing something like this: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/scripts/tree/create_tarball#n37 |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: The archive builder works a bit differently than that; I'll take a look at it tomorrow (very late here) |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Kooldock builds are fixed; the issue was much more subtle than you had suggested. ;-) To save IOPS on the very heavily loaded build server I was checking if the current directoy was in fact a GIT repository before attempting to do certain operations, which happened to include submodule fetch. GIT changed their storage method, rendering the detection method invalid |
| kb9vqf | I wasn't the only one hit by that, if you look around a bit bash autocompletion and other projects had the same problem, and all now incorporate the basic check I originally had plus a more complex check |
| kb9vqf | unfortunately that increases load slightly, but it shouldn't be a problem. GIT changing it's API and storage methods constantly however is becoming a nusciance... |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: The method used in the script create_tarball is quite simple, but it works :) |
| SlavekB | Is not dependent on whether the .git is folder or file. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, I don't doubt that as I started with something simple like that a long time ago, but it loads the disks down quite badly (or at least did on the older versions of GIT available at the time) |
| kb9vqf | As you can imagine with all the services running for TDE I didn't want to maintain an entire rack full of servers just for that purpose due to various inefficiencies all piling on top of one another ;-) |
| kb9vqf | the downside is of course with the added complexity things do break now and again, but the fixes are fairly trivial |
| kb9vqf | GIT in particular is very nasty to disks (and before SSDs are suggested who's paying to replace them when they wear our very rapdily due to GIT's constant writes?) |
| * kb9vqf would like to use SSD but to handle that kind of load would require very expensive enterprise disks | |
| SlavekB | I have to go away - I'll be back in a few hours. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: OK. Thanks for the heads up on the Kooldock issue :-) |
| SlavekB | By the way, chroot problem for Stretch still persists. |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I don't doubt that -- the archive is taking a while to update this time |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: armel/armhf chroots on Stretch are up and running again |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: great, thank you, all the build-deps are now waiting only to ppc64el. |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I've tried many times to override QuickBuild's internal idea of package versions to no avail on the kooldock application. Is there any fix that needs to be applied to the source that might bump the source revision number? |
| kb9vqf | (Yes, I know that's not a problem with the manual publishing methods. However, QuickBuild enforces that for a reason - -dpkg does not understand different files with the same version number and will not update systems with the faulty packages installed. It's a good protection I want to keep) |
| kb9vqf | Oh, and my apologies everyone for the outage. Hopefully the underlying issues on a number of the servers hosting TDE have now been resolved, which should lead to much higher uptime in the future :-) |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: ppc64el builder Meili is still in 'cleanin' state |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: there is some problem on armhf/armel builders - https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/ubuntu/trinity-nightly-builds/+builds?build_state=failed&build_text=tdebase&batch=12 |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: That's interesting. Let me take a closer look |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I sent an Email regarding the VPS |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Ok, mail is meanwhile probably somewhere on the way :) |
| kb9vqf | heh, ok |
| kb9vqf | I think we can use it to provide failover on the main site without too much compromise. Unfortunately the other PPA issues are going to have to wait until the datacenter is physically moved |
| kb9vqf | (not the armel/armhhf problem, I am only referring to the constant connection issues :-)) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: The armel/armhf issue is a time sync problem; several weeks ago at least our stratum 1 time server ceased operation and this went unnoticed due to the seamless transition to NTP-based time. However, since the outage took out the backup NTP server there are residual issues with some systems. Let me try a fix.... :-) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Time sync issue (temporarily) fixed; I've fired off a full rebuild of all failed builds |
| kb9vqf | Replacement parts are on their way but probably won't arrive until early nex week |
| kb9vqf | *next |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Ha, I noticed an invalid link in the faq/contribute: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/faq/contribute.php - link http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/GIT |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yep, that's the old URL. Good catch! |
| SlavekB | At the same time, I noted in paragraph 19.7 may be mentioned a new mirror for git repository :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Can you Email me a diff with your proposed changes? |
| SlavekB | Ok. |
| kb9vqf | SlaveB: Also, quick question: Have you ever used apt's HTTP password authentication? |
| kb9vqf | I've been considering how to make the TDE project a bit more financially viable, and I'm slowly settling in on making the nightly builds a subscription service, but don't know how well the rest of the toolchain works with restricted access |
| SlavekB | Apt with authentication? No, never for now. |
| kb9vqf | Developers of course would get free access (e.g. those performing tests and reporting back on Bugzilla, writing code, documentation etc.), but for everyone else I'd enforce financial support at some level |
| kb9vqf | ok |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: next invalid link http://www.trinitydesktop.org/faq/install.php - points to http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: What I'd really like is some way to have automatic failover between the VPS and the main site, but (as far as I am aware) there is no way to do that outside of CloudFlare or similar high-availability service provider |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: The invalid links are probably left over from the site redesign |
| kb9vqf | Patches welcome ;-) |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Site updated |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Note, same files are also in trinitydesktopdevelopmentwebsite GIT repository. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: on amd64 and i386 builders is now manifested problem looks the same as it was on the arm builders. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I think you have write access to the trinitydesktopdevelopmentwebsite GIT repository? |
| SlavekB | yes :) |
| kb9vqf | then go ahead and take the patch from the main repository and apply it to the trinitydesktopdevelopmentwebsite GIT repo ;-) |
| kb9vqf | note that I tweaked the wording slightly, so you'll want to take the patch straight from the main repo |
| SlavekB | pushed :) |
| kb9vqf | thanks |
| kb9vqf | I'm still trying to put out all the fires on the mailing list from the last two days... |
| SlavekB | I think when we prepare the http-redirector on vps, this should help appease users. |
| SlavekB | It occurred to me that mailing lists could be moved to the vps. This also could save some bandwidth of line to the primary server. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: The mailing lists are very tightly integrated with the main system. Also, unless you've run mailing lists before they are very easy to get wrong ;-) |
| kb9vqf | basically if the lists are moved off the main server at any point I'd rather go with a cloud provider that can guarantee uptime and availablity.... |
| kb9vqf | also, the lists do not use very much bandwidth at all |
| SlavekB | The problem is that when there is outage of connection to the primary server, mailing lists also do not work == users are even more uneasiness. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Unfortunately I don't really see a solution here that doesn't involve forcibly raising funding, and in terms of mailing lists that may just mean putting up with advertising if we switch to a third party provider. I don't like it at all, but I cannot take on any more maintinaince overhead (and lists are a major headache to maintain) |
| kb9vqf | Of course in several months the issue will be moot, but I have no idea if TDE can hang on that long with the bad infrastructure and certain people on the mailing lists |
| SlavekB | I did not mean to move the mailing lists to any other public service. But set them on vps same way as on the primary server. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: It can't be done. They are too tightly integrated with the mail servers here, and those mail servers cannot be moved for security reasons |
| kb9vqf | Basically, for now, the only options are to put up with the intermittent Email outages or to move to a third party provider with higher reliablity (but with advertising, as I cannot fund yet another service) |
| kb9vqf | I know I stayed in this lousy location too long, but let's try not to trow the baby out with the bathwater here :-) I dont' have the time, energy, or monthly funding to rebuild and maintain the infrastructure in the cloud, and I suspect no one else does either. You are handling small chunks, but the large stuff that took months to get working (and is only maintainable due to tight coupling ) is still here |
| kb9vqf | woiuld TDE survive without some kind of nightly build service? I don't know. It wouldn't thrive, that's for sure, but maybe it would continue to exist |
| kb9vqf | Without QuickBuild I'd have to cut releases back to maybe once every few years, as manually assemblig all the related data is a large task (been there, done that) |
| kb9vqf | Could we use a third party mailing list? Possibly, though there would be no disaster recovery plan if the service went belly up and took the archives with it (once again, been there, watched that, lost most of the valuable discussions as a result) |
| kb9vqf | What we're talking about here is re-imagining the entire TDE infrastructure, and it would take all of the key players deciding what we want to keep (and if we can in fact financially keep those items) along with what compromises in terms of third party funding, security, etc. we are willing to make |
| kb9vqf | so far it seems that the reliability compromise is no longer working |
| kb9vqf | however I'm not 100% sure what to do at this point, as completely reworking the infrastructure is a large risk -- there is a chance the entire thing could go down, and I won't have the time to rebuild it, which means everything aside from the static web site would go dark permanently |
| kb9vqf | could we move all of the scm modules to GitHub? Possibly, though I wonder who would manage all ~130 modules that comprise TDE... |
| kb9vqf | these are all hard questions; many of the potential migration targets did not exists when the TDE infrastructure was built. Conversely, moving all services into the cloud is a short term gain, long term risk strategy -- I don't know the long term viability of GitHub, for instance |
| SlavekB | Tim, no need to worry. Users are just nervous when not working "all at once". |
| kb9vqf | without people to watch over all the cloud services (and that becomes a full time job very rapidly) we risk services permanently going dark if even one service provider goes belly up |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, I know. I just wanted to give some insight into the kinds of things I am considering :-) |
| SlavekB | I can not imagine that we should move GIT repositories anywhere else. |
| kb9vqf | I'm a bit frustrated at giving up my entire weekend trying to repair the servers as fast as possible, only to get the kind of reaction on the mailing lists that I have received today :-/ |
| kb9vqf | I think some people don't understand how much they actually gave up to get the kind of reliability they are demanding |
| kb9vqf | or how much work goes into maintaining that level of reliability |
| kb9vqf | ....unpaid work (as you do as well) |
| SlavekB | I understand, users are ungrateful. |
| kb9vqf | yes, they are. I guess I forgot just how much :-/ |
| kb9vqf | It's been a long day, sorry for venting |
| kb9vqf | I remember a time before the NSA / GHCQ / etc. took over, before every new x86 machine sold was TiVo-ized, before we were looking at the end of open source iwthout corporate permission, and people just don't realize that these decisions are what drove us to that poinbt |
| kb9vqf | *point |
| kb9vqf | I guess I wish the human race could learn that certain consequences follow from their collective decisions ;-) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: anyway, I think we can move the static site to the VPS without any real hassle, and if you can get the redirector working we'll see if we can appease the users for the next few months |
| kb9vqf | The larger services will either stay here or need to be moved to a dedicated provider (probably advertising supported) |
| kb9vqf | Hopefully they can stay here, as I get the impression TDE is one of the very few open source projects left that hasn't sold itself out to a corporate owner ;-) |
| SlavekB | Regarding mailing lists - I do not think you need to think about moving "beyond our control". Remember that about software, vps is fully under our control. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes and no. The machine is not in your physical control, and a box without physical control must be considered compromised. Besides, the mailing lists are integrated with mail servers that cannot be moved outside of this location. |
| kb9vqf | basically if the lists are moved off then you should rebuild them with gmail or another third party provider |
| kb9vqf | someone specializing in Email services |
| kb9vqf | otherwise a few years from now we're just going to end up in the exact same spot ;-) |
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| SlavekB | But, mailing lists are their own third-level domain == could have a dedicated mail server for this third-level domain. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, technically there is no problem. My question is, who will be maintaining this new Email server with its new list management software? |
| kb9vqf | ....not to mention setting it up? |
| kb9vqf | are you volunteering? ;-) |
| kb9vqf | and if it's a new server, given its critical location, what's the backup strategy? |
| kb9vqf | how are you handling DKIM? |
| kb9vqf | is the IP blacklisted? does it have RDNS? who's handling the inevitable spam listings? |
| kb9vqf | not trying to be a pain here, just pointing out that running a mail server is a lot of work, and the work basically doubles for each new server at a different IP and domain |
| kb9vqf | this is why the lists were originally consolidated onto the existing mail server here |
| kb9vqf | if a compelling case can be made for the lists being handled better with higher reliability yet the same (or less) maintainaince overhead to me, then I'm good with it :-) |
| SlavekB | Well, I manage several mail servers for my customers - I usually use sednmail + mimedefang (including spamassassin, razor, pyzor, clamav, dkim). So some experience in this regard, I already have :) |
| SlavekB | However, I do not have much experience with the mailing-list systems. I have one small mail-list managed by the mailman. |
| SlavekB | In any case - now I want to focus efforts on preparing http-redirector for vps. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Well, I use ezmlm, but it hasn't kept up with the DKIM stuff very well |
| kb9vqf | If you have a higher reliability Email system and want to run the lists I'm not opposed |
| kb9vqf | I just needed to make sure you actually knew what you were doing as far as Email is concerned ;-) |
| kb9vqf | it sounds like you have experience at the required levels |
| SlavekB | we'll see what will prove vps availability and stability. |
| SlavekB | I like to use mimedefang because it is very tightly integrated into mail processing in sendmail. |
| kb9vqf | Yeah, the configuration here is Postfix, hence the ezmlm choice |
| kb9vqf | I also like to have the mailing lists managed entirely by Email, instead of the common choice to have web administration interfaces |
| kb9vqf | (from the end user perspective that is) |
| kb9vqf | What were you thinking of in terms of web archives? |
| SlavekB | By the way, on one server, where I inherited postfix, I setup DKIM signing using miler integrated into postfix. |
| SlavekB | On the mailman I liked that lets control by both ways - by mails and also via the web administration. |
| * SlavekB must go to eat :) | |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, the Postfix system here has DKIM support; the problem is that ezmlm tampers with the message contents without resigning |
| kb9vqf | If I remember correctly, it has something to do with DKIM and mailing lists not getting along in principle; to get a valid DKIM signature you need a proper From header, which means all messages appear to come from the list server instead of their original authors |
| kb9vqf | if you ignore that and try to send the messages with the correct From header, it looks like DKIM spoofing and the messages get blocked |
| kb9vqf | There were some rather hacky ways around the issue, but the messages would still get blocked by certain providers (like Yahoo) |
| kb9vqf | In any case if you're interested in rebuilding the list software at, for example, lists.trinitydesktop.org I can provide the relevant DNS services no problem |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Thank you, it was a very good reminder of problems with DKIM and SPF × mailing lists! I almost forgot about the earlier discussion on this topic. |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Thanks for imaginative commits to kooldock :) |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: No problem. :-) Let me know when you have a viable mirror selector active; I'd like to cut that over ASAP (as I mentioned before, I would prefer to provide the list of active mirrors, but you can safely cache that for a day or two if the main server goes down) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: One other thing I'd appreciate is when you get the redirector up and running, if a page is not available on the mirror system if you could redirect it over to the master server for retrieval / processing. I don't really want to split the public / developers only parts of QuickBuild into two different domains, but that means your redirector needs to cooperate and send non-public requests back to the master via HTPP/301 |
| kb9vqf | *HTTP/301 rather |
| kb9vqf | If for some reason that's not viable let me know and we'll need to move the public archives to a different subdomain |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I must first thoroughly examine the Debian http-redirector to see what adjustments would be necessary. |
| SlavekB | However, now I have to go to bed :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: All right, sounds reasonable. If I were doing this I'd have a whitelist of known public directories, and just send everything not in that whitelist to the master server |
| kb9vqf | Good night :-)( |
| * kb9vqf fumble fingered that | |
| kb9vqf | Good night :-) |
| SlavekB | Thank you :) |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Although I feared from the beginning that the Debian's http-redirector is to much too complicated - for example, uses a 'trace' files to verify mirrors - it looks functioning well! |
| SlavekB | You can try for example http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian/ |
| SlavekB | And you can also try: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Looks good! How are you getting the active mirror information? |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: to regularly update the list, I still have to work on. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Like I mentioned before I can provide active information in JSON format |
| kb9vqf | you could then cache it if the master is down |
| kb9vqf | I run a lot of checks on each mirror to determine if it is up to date, consistent, etc. |
| kb9vqf | no sense duplicating all that effort :-) |
| SlavekB | Sure, I understand. During processing the list to the database used by redirector is conducted only a basic check whether mirror is available. |
| SlavekB | Basically for me it is sufficient simple list. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: So all you need is each mirror hostname separated by a newline? |
| SlavekB | hostname including url on the server |
| kb9vqf | OK |
| SlavekB | For redirector I create mirror list in this format: |
| SlavekB | Site: tde-mirror.yosemite.net |
| SlavekB | Type: Push-Primary |
| SlavekB | Archive-architecture: amd64 armel armhf i386 ppc64el |
| SlavekB | Archive-http: /trinity/ |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Do you want me to replicate that? |
| kb9vqf | Otherwise simple list is here: https://trinitydesktop.org/mirrorstatus.php?mr |
| SlavekB | a simple list suffices me. |
| SlavekB | By the way, I sent a small patch for list of mirrors. |
| SlavekB | In the list of active mirrors is missing depot-trinity.dotriver.eu |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: It's automatically generated; I get a warning message about that mirror quite often for some kind of data integrity issue |
| SlavekB | I suppose it may be due to the fact that earlier the mirror was in the root folder, but now it is in the subfolder /trinity/ |
| * kb9vqf is going to look up the fault message | |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, that could very well be the issue. I wasn't notified of the change. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Scanner updated, but that mirror is sill stale. Look at the synctime file: http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity/ |
| kb9vqf | At any rate let's focus on getting this redirector finished, then we can worry about the one stuck mirror |
| SlavekB | Sure. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: This isn't working: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/kb9vqf |
| kb9vqf | If we're going to keep the unified ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net domain then any and all requests not for the /trinity folder need to be sent back to the master via 301 |
| SlavekB | To redirector is passed only folder /trinity |
| kb9vqf | So are we looking to change the TDE release domain name? |
| SlavekB | this work: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/kb9vqf |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: If I give you a different domain name for testing can your get rid of that extra /trinity/ ? |
| SlavekB | Yes, that would be possible. |
| kb9vqf | Let me do that then |
| kb9vqf | I'm trying to keep QuickBuild working the same way as it has in the past, but sssentially by passing all traffic through the VPS you can filter out the mirrored traffic |
| SlavekB | What about mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org? |
| kb9vqf | Yes, I can give you that |
| kb9vqf | Let's just say with all of those extra /trinity/ strings floating around the typo rate is going to go way up -- I know from personal experience ;-) |
| kb9vqf | It's bad enough we have things like host/trinity/trinity.... |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/ is live |
| SlavekB | I tried to set a VirtualHost. |
| SlavekB | But I have yet to fix it... |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: That's fine; just poke me when you're ready |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: well, rewrite rules and redirect should work exactly as I intended :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Hmm, tried this again and it's still adding an extra /trinity/ when it calls the master server: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/kb9vqf |
| kb9vqf | heh, rather this: http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/kb9vqf |
| kb9vqf | ...or was that intentional? |
| SlavekB | fixed |
| kb9vqf | OK, looks better |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Doesn't look fixed on this end |
| kb9vqf | (testing with 301 is irritating as it has to be done from the command line to avoid pasting back in the destination URL...) |
| SlavekB | Try now - I restarted apache, to be sure. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Now it works :-) |
| SlavekB | well - this also works :) |
| SlavekB | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ |
| kb9vqf | ...and you did the same thing, pasting in the destination link ;-) |
| SlavekB | :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Are we ready to go live then? Do you want to update the release APT sources on the Wiki? |
| SlavekB | So, it seems that we are ready. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Only one thing still concerns me somewhat; from what I can tell we are compressing all non-trinity PPAs into the trinity PPA directory |
| kb9vqf | maybe I should have you back that last change out and we should just use this URL for what would have been at http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity |
| SlavekB | We can also update the trinity-apt-archive package. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes; go ahead and let me know when the rebuilds are complete |
| SlavekB | By the way http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity does not work. |
| SlavekB | but http://mirror.ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity works. |
| SlavekB | but http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity works. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: What do you mean "does not work"? |
| kb9vqf | error or something else? |
| SlavekB | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/rpm × http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/rpm |
| SlavekB | I got: )404 |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Ah, yes, well I think I see the problem: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/ |
| SlavekB | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/rpm/ |
| kb9vqf | You will need to modify the redirector to not automatically append a /trinity/ directory to the hostname |
| kb9vqf | OK, I'm confused. Let me check a couple of things on a proxy line |
| kb9vqf | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/ works |
| kb9vqf | http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/rpm/ fails |
| SlavekB | Yes, but first url duplicates /trinity/trinity. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, but that's how it's designed :-P |
| kb9vqf | The RPM packages don't take kindly to the URL changing |
| kb9vqf | Back when, the URL was created with the following structure: <hostname>/<project name>/<release directory> |
| kb9vqf | The problem is, the very first release set <release directory> == "trinity" |
| kb9vqf | and the project name is also "trinity" |
| kb9vqf | hence, trinity/trinity :-) |
| kb9vqf | we also have trinity/trinity-nightly-builds |
| kb9vqf | we also have trinity/trinity-r14.0.x |
| kb9vqf | etc. |
| kb9vqf | so I'd say even though it's strange to look at just keep it for now |
| SlavekB | I have now gone for a few hours. Then I come back to it. |
| kb9vqf | OK |
| kb9vqf | thanks for the work thus far |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I realized why I was earlier confused when debugging redirections - I had directed to the http-redirector all requests, not just those for the 'trinity' that are on the other mirrors. That was why I suddenly had the url without double /trinity/trinity* |
| SlavekB | Now this is the way it should be. |
| tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2536 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla |
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| K`zan | Quick silly question, will TDE work with Mint? |
| SlavekB | K`zan: Mint based on Debian or Ubuntu? |
| SlavekB | In principle - just to find from what version of Debian / Ubuntu is Mint derived and use packages matching the same version of Debian / Ubuntu. |
| K`zan | Will check that out, pretty sure it is deb/ubu based. Thanks SlavekB |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Looks much better. Want to update the Wiki and send out an annoucment? |
| SlavekB | wiki updated few minutes ago :) |
| SlavekB | Now I updated url in the package trinity-apt-archive. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: note - I not edited wiki pages and packaging files related to RPM packages. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: You should be able to change the hostname without problems |
| kb9vqf | The issues start when you change any other part of the URL AFAIK |
| SlavekB | ok |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: This is interesting; I got a message stating that when someone tried to use your new redirector it sent them to a number of different repositories, including the master server (!). Is this possible or could it have been a transient glitch? |
| SlavekB | Master server is referenced only if the requested file does not exist on the mirror. |
| SlavekB | For selection of the mirror are primarily used GeoIP informations. |
| SlavekB | However, anyone could be hit to the point where I was doing the final tuning. |
| SlavekB | ...including automation update of the list of mirrors. |
| kb9vqf | ok |
| kb9vqf | that's probably what it was then |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: How to deal with links to the source tarballs that are on the web site? |
| SlavekB | https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases/R14.0.1/ |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'll need to update those pages |
| kb9vqf | mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/releases/R14.0.1/downloads.html will be the new link |
| kb9vqf | etc. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Updated -- pull from the main site GIT repo |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I also sent a patch to update the list of mirrors. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: In what way does it need to be updated? |
| SlavekB | Add folder /trinity in url for DotRiver mirror, add folder /trinity in rsync path for Nathaniel Taylor mirror, remove seccond DotRiver mirror, move NetLinux to Past Contributors. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: So we're not talking about the active mirror list then, gotcha |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I forwarded you a Tinderbox failure on LibreOffice. Can you investigate and send me a patch |
| kb9vqf | ? |
| SlavekB | No, I mean the list of mirrors on the Web site :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I need to eat, will be back later |
| kb9vqf | ;-) |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: I will need to go to sleep :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: OK, it can wait for tomorrow, no rush |
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| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Basic build-deps for Wily are ready to copy! https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+packages?field.series_filter=wily |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Great! Thanks for uploading those |
| SlavekB | For Stretch several packages waiting to ppc64el builds... |
| kb9vqf | I see that |
| kb9vqf | I'm reprioritizing the builds |
| SlavekB | Thank you! |
| SlavekB | It is interesting that Mili is now incredibly slow when installing build dependencies for kerberostray package. |
| kb9vqf | Well, the two ppc64el builders are qemu based; I am still attempting to acquire actual OpenPOWER hardware but it's taking a while to get through all the red tape |
| SlavekB | You can see that it is moving forward, but very very slowly. Normally, it is faster - although on qemu. |
| kb9vqf | I wonder if the other ppc64el builder is sucking down shared system resources |
| * kb9vqf needs to check | |
| tbottu | 10kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net changed the Status on bug 2273 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
| tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2273 major, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Add support for LUKS in next TDE minor release |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I don't see anything immediately wrong on meili, but it is busy doing a lot of rehash operations for things like dictionaries and aspell. It might be time for an update of the chroots |
| SlavekB | The main thing is that they still progressing :) |
| SlavekB | Incidentally, it is interesting that the building tde-i18n for some versions of distributions is also incredibly long. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'm seeing transient IOPS spikes that might be related |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Do you think you might be able to get a patch together for that LibreOffice tinterbox failure I forwarded to you? |
| kb9vqf | *tinderbox |
| SlavekB | Usually tde-i18n take about 3 - 4 hours, but for example, Vivid take 22 hours. Which is crazy. |
| SlavekB | Yes, I'll here finish a few things, then I'll move to home and then immerse myself into LibreOffice :) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: While poking around I think I found the performance issue on ppc64el. Unfortunately it's an infrastructure problem requiring an outage to resolve |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Also, IIRC the long tde-i18n builds are due to trusty (?) and above running some kind of image compression routine sequentially for every image in the package. If there was a way to turn that off in the packaging files it might be worth looking into; we can compress the images once upstream in GIT if needed instead of constantly during builds |
| SlavekB | Yes, image compression seems to be the cause of slow processing. |
| SlavekB | kb9vqf: Outages are a sensitive topic this week :) |
| kb9vqf | Yes, but what has to be done has to be done...how's the redirector coming BTW? Last I recall you just needed to reupload the apt archive packages? |
| kb9vqf | In any case this outage should be well under an hour |
| kb9vqf | just need to fix some incorrect wiring |
| SlavekB | I had only two phantom builds - both are in fact superseded. |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Looking at the traffic in this IRC channel I'm starting to think we might want a dedicated #tde-syspos channel, especially with the services slowly decentralizing |
| SlavekB | http-redirector seems to work successfully. |
| kb9vqf | #tde-sysops rather :-P |
| SlavekB | tde-sysops or trinity-desktop-sysops? :) |
| kb9vqf | tde-sysops is easier to remember |
| SlavekB | :) |
| kb9vqf | so, I registered that |
| kb9vqf | let's move the sysops stuff over there and keep the development discussion here |
| SlavekB | Alternatively - another possibility - I use jabber for im. |
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| kb9vqf | I'm pretty much exclusively IRC ;-) |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Do you have packages I can copy over to the release archives at this point? |
| SlavekB | You mean for build-deps or for R14.0.1? |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: No, I was referring to the new apt archive packages, sorry :-) |
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| kb9vqf | SlavekB: Do you have the new apt source debs uploaded to QuickBuild already? |
| SlavekB | What sources do you have in mind? |
| SlavekB | build-deps? |
| kb9vqf | SlavekB: You were going to upload new trinity-apt packages that refer to your new mirror redirector? |
| SlavekB | Oh, those, okay, I do upload to my PPA soon. |
| kb9vqf | Yes, sorry for not being specific enough (I cannot recall the exact package name OTOH) |
| SlavekB | trinity-apt-archive :) |
| kb9vqf | Yes, that :-) |
| * kb9vqf is still making sure everything came back up 100% | |
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