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SlavekB | kb9vqf: trinity-apt-archive source packages uploaded to queue, now waiting to build |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: Can you send a link to the packages so I can up the build priority? |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+packages?field.name_filter=trinity-apt-archive |
kb9vqf | Thanks |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: It appears that two packages remain in queue below: |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282070 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282076 |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Must have missed those; updated |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: For some reason failed two of the build-deps on ppc64el == fell again in queue low: |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/280506 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/280516 |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Thanks for the heads up; rescored |
pitriss | hi
guys, please can you tell me what kind of data expects yakuakes dcop
call yakuake session-1 setSchema ? I tried to put there all kinds of
schema names but it wasn't work as expected. |
kb9vqf | pitriss: I don't use yakuake personally so I don't know exactly what data is expected, but have you tried kdcop? |
pitriss | yep It says TQString |
pitriss | but when i tried all known schema names it doesn't changed schema |
pitriss | weird thing is fact that schema call returns empty string (I guess it should return name of schema used) |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: Well, trinity-apt-archive packages seems to be ready for copying. |
pitriss | or I'm using it in wrong way..:) I'm not too much skilled in dcops |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Copy in progress |
kb9vqf | pitriss:
You might have hit a bug. kdcop is normally very reliably,
so I'd guess that the yakuake DCOP interface is reading/writing the
wrong schema variable |
pitriss | ah so should I file bugreport?:) |
kb9vqf | pitriss: Probably |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2537 filed by chytrex@wjake.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2537 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , yakuakes dcop session-1 setSchema / schema calls not working |
kb9vqf | pitriss; Thanks |
pitriss | kb9vqf: ok I just did it:) |
pitriss | youe welcome:) |
pitriss | *youre |
pitriss | I found this bug when I tried to temporarily workaround another bug in yakuake with terminal background:D |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Updated "apt-archive" packages uploaded also for LibreOffice-trinity: https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~libreoffice-trinity/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-trinity-staging/+packages?field.name_filter=apt-archive&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Rescored. What URL dud you use in that package? |
kb9vqf | *did |
SlavekB | http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/libreoffice-trinity/ubuntu |
kb9vqf | OK, that looks correct...just checking :-) |
SlavekB | Performed again only change from ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net to mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org |
kb9vqf | I just wanted to verify since there is a close but incorrect variant that would not use the mirror system |
SlavekB | I checked the functionality of url before uploading packages :) |
kb9vqf | great! |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: I think you have the required permission to copy the packages from staging to production, correct? |
SlavekB | yes |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: once built packages will be ready to copy, then I can perform it :) |
kb9vqf | ok |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Two build-deps again need to prioritize. |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/280536 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/280551 |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Done |
SlavekB | Thank you! |
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SlavekB | Incidentally: Updated libreoffice-trinity-apt-archive packages have been published in the official PPA. |
kb9vqf | SlavekB:
When you have a possible patch for the LibreOffice build issue you can
either upload it to the LO Gerrit system yourself and send me a link or
just send me the patch and I'll handle upstreaming -- it's up to you
(though the LO folks probably prefer you to upload it yourself) |
kb9vqf | Never mind, I see your Email :-) |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: If you think it would be better to sent patch to Gerrit myself, I will try to test patch first. |
kb9vqf | SlavekB:
My only concern is policy on the LO side; I think they probably prefer
you upload the patch yourself if you originated it, but I don't think
they are as strict as other projects (meaning I could send it if need
be) |
SlavekB | Do you have a build environment where you could test this patch? |
kb9vqf | Yes, I have GIT all set up and ready to go |
kb9vqf | *LO git that is |
SlavekB | I routinely build LibreOffice from Debian packages... |
kb9vqf | Ah, yeah, maybe I should take over here since I'm all set up already and upstream integration is a pain :-) |
SlavekB | I also already have LibreOffice git clone, but I have not ready environment for build LO from git :) |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: On second thought I may have already archived that VM |
kb9vqf | if you want to work on getting it tested / submitted feel free |
* kb9vqf is still cleaning up from the outage mess |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: I can send a patch to Gerrit myself, but first I would like to have verified that really solves the problem :) |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'll have to decompress that VM |
kb9vqf | I'll get back to you later today:-) |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: It is for me a challenge that I, little ant, could contribute to such a large project, such as LibreOffice :) |
kb9vqf | SlavekB:
Well, I've contributed to a lot of base packages like OpenLDAP,
Kerberos, etc. This is part of what makes open source great!
:-) |
SlavekB | kb9vqf:
A few years ago I corrected one long-term bug in Mozilla (incorect
handling with Windows UNC path) ... also it was an interesting feeling
:) |
kb9vqf | Yep, I know what you mean |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2530 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2530 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , Build issue: Git tdelibs FTBFS |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: Oh, I noticed that you were cut old irc log - that's great, thank you! |
SlavekB | Before that it was loading horribly long. |
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MutantTurkey | things going well around here? |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: Unfortunately the LO patch only fixed part of the problem: https://paste.ee/p/gjLkf |
kb9vqf | MutantTurkey: Slowly, but they are going :-) |
MutantTurkey | that's what i like to hear! |
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Inukaze | Hi there , this channel still alive ? |
Inukaze | Well , i don't see an email to send my question |
Inukaze | you have a version of trinity desktop for ArchLinux /Manjaro with OpenRC ? |
Inukaze | In
special the TDM , because with openrc i have glitches with lxdm and mdm
, and sometimes works sddm , but lightdm , xdm , gdm , entrance , slim ,
don't works fine with openrc |
MutantTurkey | Yes. |
MutantTurkey | This is alive a channel |
MutantTurkey | Did arch switch to openrc? interesting. |
Inukaze | No , but i have more specific manjaro with openrc i switch manually |
MutantTurkey | gotit |
Inukaze | Manjaro have an iso version with openrc |
MutantTurkey | does straight ol' starttde work to launch the desktop? |
Inukaze | ol'? what ? |
MutantTurkey | The issue you're having is launching TDE or? |
Inukaze | ahm no , no , i wanna install TDE in manjaro , but the official repos dont work for me i can't install it |
Inukaze | and i wanna know if works with openrc |
MutantTurkey | gotcha, so how can I help you? |
Inukaze | Some mirror repositories for test if works for me ? |
MutantTurkey | I don't see why not, depends if you are using the display manager or not |
MutantTurkey | either way you can run a trinity session regardless of dealing with the display manager problem |
Inukaze | i can't install nothing from TDE Official repo for archlinux , unreachable hosts |
Inukaze | i wanna test the full desktop in manjaro with openrc |
MutantTurkey | ah yes, those don't exist any longer |
Inukaze | :( |
MutantTurkey | unless they do and i am wrong |
MutantTurkey | Inukaze: aren't there AUR packages for it? |
Inukaze | let me see |
Inukaze | nope |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Updated patch for LibreOffice flies in the mail. |
SlavekB | Inukaze: Until here will not be a volunteer to take care for ArchLinux Trinity packages, packages simply cannot exist. |
SlavekB | Query
for ArchLinux packages is repeated here, but as long as everyone will
just ask and nobody fails to produce a helping hand, moving forward does
not occur. |
Inukaze | :( |
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Inukaze | bye
people , if you can make a poll in Manjaro OpenRC ISO , if someone ar
interested in help to support TDE for OpenRC ISO Version of Manjaro :D |
Inukaze | in the forum i was meant XD |
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tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2454 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2454 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, REOPENED , KMail crashes on next start when closed in Offline mode |
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tbottu | 10darrella@clovermail.net changed the Status on bug 2454 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2454 major, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, KMail crashes on next start when closed in Offline mode |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: I think that patch fixed the compiilation issues. Can you submit it and send me the link? |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: patch merged! See http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=4f0a68eb |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Cool, thanks! |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Since you have more epxerience with pmount, etc. is there any way that you know of to replace the "pmount" call here https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/tree/tdecore/tdehw/tdestoragedevice.cpp#n1280 with a DBUS call? |
kb9vqf | pmount isn't working very well in some cases |
kb9vqf | so what I am asking is: can we use udisks[2] for that purpose or is there a different DBUS service to unlock LUKS devices? |
SlavekB | now I have to go away for a few hours |
SlavekB | Then I can look at it. |
SlavekB | Anyway, I'm finishing last patches related to bug 2521. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2521 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Installation of TDE breaks Unity and Gnome Desktops |
kb9vqf | SlavekB:
Thanks. I don't have much time to actually hack on the
codebase as I am trying to make ends meet due to the recent
server repair expenses :/ |
kb9vqf | but I'm still trying to keep things moving along.... |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2521 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2521 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Installation of TDE breaks Unity and Gnome Desktops |
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pitriss | SlavekB:
hi, does have your preliminary wheezy repo also source packages?:) I'm
thinking about adding src repo into sources.list and use it to try fixed
dcop notification daemon:) |
pitriss | It could be easier than compiling from source tarballs. |
SlavekB | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds |
SlavekB | pitriss: everything is available :) |
pitriss | ok thank you:) |
pitriss | SlavekB: i will try to compile it then:) |
SlavekB | Soon I will make a regular weekly update of changelog: |
SlavekB | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Changelog_For_R14.0.2 |
pitriss | great progress..:) |
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pitriss | SlavekB: please do you have any clue whats wrong? http://pastebin.com/wXB6nbSh |
SlavekB | pitriss: you have enough space on a partition? |
pitriss | 13GB free |
SlavekB | That's certainly enough. |
SlavekB | File
/home/chytrex/TEMP/tdelibs/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.2~pre9/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/dcop/libDCOP.so.14.0.0
exists and looks like valid? |
pitriss | it had zero size |
pitriss | i'm trying to rerun that..:) |
pitriss | still the same result and it looks like there are no previous errors during compilation |
pitriss | maybe its because i should use Gcc 4.6 instead 4.7? |
SlavekB | You can try to search in log where is linked libDCOP. |
pitriss | ok so i will run it again and redirect all output to file to have complete log as my console "backlog" is not long enough.. |
SlavekB | GCC version would not be a problem. |
pitriss | ok.. |
pitriss | SlavekB: http://pastebin.com/ARLpUAaQ is that info you needed? |
SlavekB | pitriss:
Ha, two things are strange - is used tdeelfeditor from the
/opt/trinity/bin instead of from the build folder. And the information
that are trying to save to the libraries are "14.0.0" "10/12/2015
3:05:41" instead of "14.0.2"...! |
SlavekB | Can be used for building a clean chroot - for example pbuilder? |
pitriss | i have not set up such enviroment yet.. |
pitriss | Thats why i tried to use apt-get -b source ... |
SlavekB | Now it seems to mingle being compiled R14.0.2 with already installed R14.0.0. |
SlavekB | By the way, why you do not use binary packages from preliminary stable builds apt source? |
pitriss | but
i can try to setup build enviroment if it help you discover some bug..
otherwise i can wait till R14.0.2 will be released..:) |
pitriss | I don't want to break my desktop:D |
SlavekB | I use R14.0.2~pre every day :) |
SlavekB | For building in any case, I recommend pbuilder. |
pitriss | I just tried to build tdelibs to fix that annoying dcop notifications:D |
pitriss | BTW do you use yakuake from trinity? |
pitriss | ok i will look at it someday..:) or maybe i will switch to preliminary repo:) |
SlavekB | I tried yakuake and I found that such a method of operation does not satisfy me. |
pitriss | ok..
thats probably why i found some bugs in it.. :) Because not so much ppl
here is using it:) These issues are more cosmetic tho..:) |
SlavekB | kb9vqf:
I think that 'SAK' can only be used with a local display, not with the
remote. Is it correct to write UseSAK else than for local display? |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB:
I haven't taken a very close look at it, but in any case on one user's
system here there were two separate UseSAK entries with conflicting
settings, which was causing issues with the themer TDEControl module |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB:
Scheduled maintainance has been pushed back to 10/15/2015 due to slower
than expected replacment part delivery (I have some of the parts but am
still missing two items) |
kb9vqf | everyone
else: I could use some additional funding as I am currently way over
budget on TDE and am having to backfill with non-TDE related work... :-) |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2530 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2530 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: Git tdelibs FTBFS |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2528 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2528 critical, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Add support for subversion 1.9 |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2521 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2521 blocker, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Installation of TDE breaks Unity and Gnome Desktops |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 791 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=791 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Akode: add the akode arts plugin to the Trinity repository |
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kb9vqf | Most services restored; mailing lists still a work in progress. New estimated service restoration at 19:30 GMT |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: I've updated the 'akode' in the deps-r14. Please, can you raise the priority - especially for ppc64el? |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+packages?field.name_filter=akode |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: ppc64el priority updated; there aren't too many x86 builds in queue so we'll just let it work through |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1596 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1596 enhancement, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, [i18n] TDM should use system-defined language by default |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: clearly, I'm not worried about the amd64 and i386 :) |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2525 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2525 blocker, P1, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: tdenetwork R14.0.1 tarball FTBFS on Slackware 14.1 |
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kb9vqf | All services are now back online! |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2538 filed by assolutooccidentale@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2538 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , i cannot install trinity on stretch |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2538 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2538 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , i cannot install trinity on stretch |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Njörun seems to be stuck in Cleaning. |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: I'll reset it |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Sjöfn seems to be stuck in Cleaning. |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Let me reset it.... |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: Lords of Ubuntu are really 'sweethearts'! |
SlavekB | I
assumed that when Oct. 15 was final freeze that already will be "no"
changes, and I can build packages as 'final' == without '~a' suffix. |
SlavekB | Today I see that they update the gcc. |
kb9vqf | yeah |
kb9vqf | I've learned not to build TDE for release until Ubuntu is already shipping |
SlavekB | fully understand |
SlavekB | Fortunately, it seems to be a minor change |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: Incidentally, for the build-deps on Wily I had to put gpsim. |
SlavekB | see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpsim/+bug/1501390 |
kb9vqf | Interesting |
* kb9vqf goes to rescore your ppc64el builds |
SlavekB | While on Debian problem was resolved the next day, on Ubuntu nobody cares... |
kb9vqf | That pretty much matches my experience as well |
kb9vqf | I've been slowly moving over to Debian from Ubuntu, as I don't really care about the bleeding-edge features anymore (KDE SC 5?) |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: When debugging bug 2521 I first looked at Unity and Gnome 3.x - one stranger than the second :) |
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msb__ | Has Trinity been ported to any *BSD? |
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kb9vqf | msb__: Yes, though from what I understand there are some threading problems remaining |
kb9vqf | msb__: It's mentioned on the main site (news release https://trinitydesktop.org/newsentry.php?entry=2015.08.30) |
kb9vqf | FreeBSD |
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SlavekB | msb___: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/freebsd?h=r14.0.x |
SlavekB | msb___: http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2462 |
tbottu | 04Bug 2462: blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [FreeBSD] Crash in threads tdm, kdesktop,... |
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msb___ | Thanks! |
SlavekB | One more bug on FreeBSD - probably also related threads: |
SlavekB | http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2526 |
tbottu | 04Bug 2526: major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [FreeBSD] Konqueror freezes upon typing '/' in address bar |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Meili and Njörun seems to be stuck on Cleaning |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Note: build-deps for Wily are updated and complete == including compiz https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+packages?field.series_filter=wily |
kb9vqf | I'm waiting for the Stretch deps and will copy all at once |
SlavekB | for
compiz on a Stretch we wait for the tdebase and before that the
necessary dependencies == tdelibs => arts, avahi, dbus,... |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+packages?field.series_filter=stretch |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: I meant the base deps |
* kb9vqf is pretty swamped at the moment |
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SlavekB | base build-deps (without compiz) are ready also for Stretch |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: I had some time to look at the dependencies PPA; Stretch and Wily packages are copied |
kb9vqf | Any other updates I should be aware of? |
SlavekB | kb9vqf:
It has been updated 'akode' in all distributions. However, for R14.1.x
should already be built together with other packages from GIT. |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, good point. I need to delete the extra akode package from the nightly build deps |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2528 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2528 major, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Add support for subversion 1.9 |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: New news item posted to main site |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2115 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2115 minor, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Native tqt3 sqlite3 driver is duplicated in the krecipes source code |
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WorkingTurkey | is there a launch helper required to run with an application through kmail |
WorkingTurkey | not using tde right now, but using kmail |
WorkingTurkey | click on a link it asks me what I want to launch with then nothing |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2434 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2434 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: smartcardauth rpmlint errors |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2434 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2434 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: smartcardauth rpmlint errors |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: Njörun seems to be stuck on Cleaning |
kb9vqf | Rebooting.... |
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pitriss | Guys.. can someone test kopete's default ICQ login address? Correct is login.icq.com |
pitriss | IDK if it was dragged into my configuration by migration from KDE3.5 or if its wrong in package.. |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2539 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2539 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Incorrect desktop icon displayed for SD card |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2540 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2540 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14.0.3 official bug list (meta bug) |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: We need to discuss R14.0.2 |
kb9vqf | I think you uploaded all packages already, correct? |
kb9vqf | If we're good to go you should tag R14.0.2 and I'll go ahead and get the release ball rolling on this end |
SlavekB | No not. So far, in my PPA are packages for R14.0.1. |
SlavekB | I must proceed to the tag in GIT, create source packages and upload. |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: I suppose I will do so this weekend. |
SlavekB | For now all builds and testing were in my preliminary stable builds repository. |
kb9vqf | OK |
SlavekB | As you probably read, Michele also had no objections to tagging without the wait after hardfreeze. |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: If you want, in my PPA is ready R14.0.1 for Wily == could be published immediately. |
kb9vqf | Will copy now |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Copy / upload in progress :-) |
SlavekB | Thank you. |
kb9vqf | NP |
kb9vqf | Thanks for the uplaods |
kb9vqf | *uploads rather |
SlavekB | kb9vqf:
On weekend I plan to upload R14.0.2 packages without packages for
Stretch. Until is not final would unnecessarily delaying builds of other
packages - especially ppc64el. |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yes, you should wait until R14.0.2 is finalized -- that's why I was asking about the tagging |
kb9vqf | From what I can see it's pretty much ready, but we were waiting on one or two bugs? |
kb9vqf | I have one commit I would like to make to the LDAP utilities, but I don't know if the problem affects the SRUs or not |
SlavekB | I think that at this moment there are no bugs that would need to wait. |
kb9vqf | OK, sounds good |
kb9vqf | I'll see if there's anything I need to fix tomorrow and you can tag/upload over the weekend |
SlavekB | Although the list of Bug 2468 are still some items, but I think it can be moved to R14.0.3. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2468 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14.0.2 official bug list (meta bug) |
SlavekB | For bug 2529 is not enough information and I also do not consider it essential for R14.0.2. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2529 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , KPPP fails everytime on PCLinuxOS with TDE R14.0.1 |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: I assumed that I could tag on a Sunday afternoon - if nobody would find something major / blocking. |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Sounds like a reasonable goal |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: I can again tag the first in my local git repository and upload tags after the finished builds in my ppa. |
kb9vqf | However you want to do it; as long as the source in your PPA matches the final tags I'm fine with it |
SlavekB | Yes, R14.0.1 exactly match the tags. And I suppose that even R14.0.2 also will be built successfully :) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2541 filed by rossi.f@inwind.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2541 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ark rar improvements: fix support with rar utilities v5.x and improve listing of folders |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2541 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2541 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , ark rar improvements: fix support with rar utilities v5.x and improve listing of folders |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: This commit should probably go into R14.0.2: https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/libtdeldap/commit/?id=3fdd5c96 |
kb9vqf | Hmmm, you're not here |
kb9vqf | Will poke later |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: 3fdd5c96 (libtdeldap) backported to R14.0.2 |
kb9vqf | Thanks |
SlavekB | please, can you adjust priority for compiz builds? |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/282447 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/282454 |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: please, you can raise priority of remaining compiz builds? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/282461 https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/282468 |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2538 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2538 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, i cannot install trinity on stretch |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2536 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Sjöfn seems to be stuck in Cleaning |
kb9vqf | restarting... |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: please, you can raise priority of last pending compiz build? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+build/282468 |
kb9vqf | Done |
SlavekB | Thank you! |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2536 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 needs packaging, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 791 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=791 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Akode: add the akode arts plugin to the Trinity repository |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: all compiz build-deps for Stretch are ready to copy https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+packages?field.series_filter=stretch |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Meili and Njörun seems to be stuck |
SlavekB | Well, Njörun is already in work :) |
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WorkingTurkey | kb9vqf: I can retroactively license it public domain right? |
kb9vqf | WorkingTurkey: Yep |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: Meili and Njörun are stuck on Cleaning. |
WorkingTurkey | k |
WorkingTurkey | just emailed you nack. |
WorkingTurkey | back' |
kb9vqf | thanks |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Restarting |
WorkingTurkey | In other news here's my lastest pride and joy, since I work in software, now I have fun with cars |
WorkingTurkey | http://i.imgur.com/NGG1gLl.jpg |
WorkingTurkey | 1993 Saab 900 Turbo Convertible |
kb9vqf | Nice! |
* kb9vqf is a VW / Audi man |
WorkingTurkey | I am on a swedish kick, it's my 3rd saab |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: all compiz build-deps for Stretch are ready to copy https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/deps-r14/+packages?field.series_filter=stretch |
kb9vqf | copied |
WorkingTurkey | Anyone run into issues outside of a TDE session using kmail or other programs? |
WorkingTurkey | my open with dialog does not work unless I am using TDE |
WorkingTurkey | which I can only assumes mean I am not running some sort of helper service. |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Meili seems to be stuck on Cleaning. |
kb9vqf | Again? |
* kb9vqf goes to reset it |
SlavekB | Yes, again. |
kb9vqf | I will likely be acquiring some real Power8 hardware in a couple of months |
kb9vqf | so these problems should go away then |
kb9vqf | however until then you'll just have to keep poking me when the builders go down ;-) |
SlavekB | I try to constantly supervise them :) |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Sjöfn seems to be stuck on Cleaning. |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Sjöfn is stuck on Cleaning. |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: knock knock :) |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Was away from this machine |
kb9vqf | Resetting |
SlavekB | thank you |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Meili is stuck on Cleaning |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Meili is stuck on Cleaning |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: As you can probably tell this is a busy week for me regarding work -- I'm not monitoring the channel very closely |
kb9vqf | Resetting..... |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: All right, no hurry. That is why I am sometimes reminded to message not remain sunk deep in history :) |
kb9vqf | That works |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2542 filed by aw30@sayne.org. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2542 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Digikam 0.9.6 selection crash |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: please, you can raise priority of tqt3 ppc64el build? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282901 |
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kb9vqf | Done |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Sjöfn is stuck on Cleaning. |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Resetting.... |
kb9vqf | Did I mention I was working on acquiring real POWER8 hardware for December? ;-) |
SlavekB | Please, you can raise priority of libtqtinterface build? |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282975 |
SlavekB | No, you have not mentioned this. That's good news! |
kb9vqf | Yeah,
it's expensive, but the company needs to evaluate its performance for
potential use in another area. Benefit of that for TDE is
that a couple of POWER virtual machines won't hurt anything.... |
kb9vqf | This is where most of the cash to run TDE comes from BTW: https://raptorengineeringinc.com |
kb9vqf | my day job :-) |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: I understand - on the 'dotRiver', where gave me a virtual machine for builds, have the main usage quite clear :) http://www.dotriver.eu/ |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: Yep, looks pretty familiar. They also donated space for the mirror system |
SlavekB | Yes, I know - in addition they made a second mirror for my Preliminary stable builds repository. |
SlavekB | They probably uses Ubuntu 14.04 on ppc64el. |
kb9vqf | sounds correct |
SlavekB | In fact, for them I added build for trusty@ppc64el into the preliminary stable builds. |
kb9vqf | right, and that's when I went and added first support to QuickBuild as OpenPOWER is a priority target |
kb9vqf | so you were somewhat ahead of our processes here in selecting ppc64el :-) |
kb9vqf | considering the hardware isn't even generally available this level of support is pretty good IMHO |
SlavekB | I wonder when will apear some users interested in Arm64 :) |
SlavekB | ...we already are ready for them :) |
kb9vqf | QuickBuild doesn't have arm64, I assume you're referring to your builds? |
SlavekB | Yes, true, packages are available on the preliminary stable builds. |
kb9vqf | Personally
I don't really see the point of ARM trying to expand into servers;
datacenters need higher density, not wasted space like that |
SlavekB | However, the source code is ready for build on Arm64. |
kb9vqf | ah, ok |
kb9vqf | ARM is so popular because the processor stinks |
kb9vqf | it's low power computationally, and therefore low power electrically |
kb9vqf | most attempts to scale up have lost the power savings advantage |
SlavekB | However, mobile devices and cheap desktops could find usage for arm64. |
SlavekB | ...and for such a desktops could be TDE a good choice :) |
kb9vqf | Yes, there ARM makes sense, though at the prices I've seen (> $2,000 USD) most of the systems are targetted at datacenters |
kb9vqf | the consumer systems (~$100 - 200 USD) are 32-bit |
SlavekB | I will now offline for several hours... |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Please, you can raise priority for libtqtinterface on ppc64el? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282975 |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: done |
SlavekB | thank you! |
kb9vqf | np |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Sjöfn seems to be stuck |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: Reloaded again |
* kb9vqf heads off for some sleep |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: please, you can raise builds neeeded for tdelibs? |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282938 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283086 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283123 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283160 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283197 |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: please, you can raise builds neeeded for tdelibs? |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/282938 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283086 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283123 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283160 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283197 |
kb9vqf | done |
SlavekB | thank you! |
SlavekB | Note - Sjöfn seems to be stuck. |
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kb9vqf | ...of course it is |
kb9vqf | resetting.... |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: please, you can raise priority of last two builds neeeded for tdelibs? |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283086 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283123 |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Meili seems to be stuck. |
kb9vqf | resetting |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: and priority for recently mentioned builds? |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: I thought I rasied it, let me check |
kb9vqf | yep, already rased |
kb9vqf | *raised |
SlavekB | thank you - I see, that arts is now on Njorn |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: Where do we stand on release? |
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Windoze98 | i'm having troubles getting the system notifications to work... does anyone know how I could start diagnosing this? |
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Windoze98 | is anyone available? |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: we proceed forward successfully |
SlavekB | Are built dependencies, basic packages and libraries. Applications are underway. |
SlavekB | please, you can raise priority for tdelibs? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283271 |
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kb9vqf | dine |
kb9vqf | *done rather |
SlavekB | :) |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: please, you can raise priority of caldav, carddav and tdebase? |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283012 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283049 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283345 |
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jentron | what is the name of the settings app? On KDE I think it was kcontrol, but I'm not seeing that in trinity |
SlavekB | jentron: On Debian / Ubuntu is package kcontrol-trinity => binary is also kcontrol, as was on KDE3. |
jentron | Thanks. I guess I need to fix my profile to include /opt/trinity/bin so I can find these things. :) |
SlavekB | If you use starttde, paths is added by this script. |
SlavekB | When you do not use TDE session, you need to add paths manually... |
jentron | Yes, I'm not running the trinity sessionmanger right now, I'm still setting up/settling into a newly installed system |
SlavekB | When you add paths manually, should be useful also set XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS - see starttde. |
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jentron | Thanks SlavekB, maybe I should just reboot into trinity. :) |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: please, you can raise priority for tdesdk? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/283606 |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Done |
SlavekB | thank you! |
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tbottu | 10ac586133@hotmail.com changed the Status on bug 2536 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 needs packaging, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: Are you able to access the TDE keyserver? |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Yes, I tried to ask TDE keyserver for my key and I got the right response. |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: I got an Email earlier saying the keyservers were down |
kb9vqf | very odd |
kb9vqf | thanks for checking though! |
SlavekB | you're welcome |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: For your information: ppc64el are the last packages on which builds we are waiting. All others are successfully built! |
kb9vqf | sounds great! |
SlavekB | And packages for ppc64el successfully proceed forward. |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2543 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2543 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS on Fedora 23 / perl 5.22 |
tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2543 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
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raevyn | hello. has anyone installed tde on an kubuntu 14.04 and when trying to log in to it, it errors saying tdeinit couldnt start? |
SlavekB | raevyn: you have installed package kgtk-qt3? |
raevyn | let me check one moment |
raevyn | ugh no.. let me try that ty |
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SemiNus | hi |
SemiNus | I'd have a question, please |
SemiNus | the taskbar shows me 3 rows of minimized windows |
SemiNus | changing the size of the panel does not affect the amount of rows |
SemiNus | I would like to set the amount of rows to 2 |
SemiNus | and most important of all: The minimized windows should be displayed larger |
SemiNus | the buttons are really, really small (the buttons representing the minimized windows in the taskbar) |
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SemiNus | hi :) |
SemiNus | I use trinity desktop again since yesterday |
SemiNus | and there are 2 things I wonder about: |
SemiNus | a) why does google-chrome *always* get no focus after I open it using the ALT+F2 dialogue window? |
SemiNus | b)
Is there something like a device manager available as tray
icon, where I can mount / unmount devices? (like
in KDE 4?) |
SlavekB | ad a) I do not know, I run it from the menu, and I not noticed problems |
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SemiNus | re |
SemiNus | SlavekB ! |
SemiNus | I am sorry |
SlavekB | ad
b) In the current version, there is no tray icon. You can use Konqueror
and url media:/ - Applications to tray will be new in
R14.1.x! |
SemiNus | I had a bad discussion on #kde (for version 4) and then I /quit |
SemiNus | I am sorry I forgot that I asked something in trinity channel |
SemiNus | when is 14.1 to be released? |
SlavekB | It will take some time - I expect the first half of 2016. |
SlavekB | Application is now a new and will be even more improved :) |
SemiNus | SlavekB, then I wish you and the team the best :) |
SlavekB | thank you! |
SemiNus | oh, and about google chrome |
SemiNus | how can I prove the problem? |
SemiNus | screencast? |
SemiNus | or what can I do to should you that there is really a problem? |
SemiNus | and one other thing: |
SemiNus | xchat starts immediately when I call it from a shell (konsole) |
SemiNus | but xchat does *not* start through ALT+F2 |
SlavekB | I suppose verbal description of the problem will be sufficient. |
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SlavekB | SemiNus: Do not hesitate and fill in a bug report :) |
SemiNus | SlavekB, I am a little afraid of having my words forever in a bugtracker |
SemiNus | that will make me thing 2 years of how to write it ^.^ |
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SemiNus | do you experience the same problem on your system when you run google-chrome via ALT+F2 ? |
SlavekB | I usually not use Alt + F2 :) |
SlavekB | I gave Alt + F2, wrote "chromium", gave Enter, wait a few minutes and chromium opened as active. |
SemiNus | Chromium != Chrome |
SemiNus | I use google-chrome |
SlavekB | Note: I have not installed google-chrome, chromium only |
SemiNus | then I try chromium |
SemiNus | I need to start into trinity again |
SemiNus | gimme a moment, I show up again in 2 minutes |
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SemiNus | SlavekB, re |
SemiNus | I am on trinity now |
SemiNus | so, there is a bug with google-chrome |
SlavekB | me too ;) |
SemiNus | chromium-browser works fine |
SemiNus | SlavekB, I tried KDE 4 before, but I really dislike it |
SlavekB | interesting |
SemiNus | I asked for some solutions in #kde and they hated me a lot when I asked them why they changed everything to the worse |
SemiNus | usually, people add functionality |
SemiNus | KDE 4 changed functionality, and there is a bug, they simply remove the option instead of solving it |
SemiNus | I am very happy that trinity desktop exists |
SemiNus | SlavekB, what I just said was about KDE 4 (!) |
SemiNus | not about trinity ! |
SlavekB | SemiNus: I understood |
SemiNus | SlavekB, a few more bugs: |
SemiNus | please try ALT+F2 xchat |
SemiNus | that does not start |
SemiNus | what can I do? |
SemiNus | and: how
can I add a shortcut to "konsole" so
that CTRL+Shift+C copies text, and
CTRL+Shift+V pastes text? |
SlavekB | I use KDE from beta version of KDE1 and Trinity is for me a logical continuation after KDE3.5 |
SlavekB | I have not installed xchat |
SemiNus | yes, definitely |
SemiNus | hopefully trinity desktop will be continued for a long time |
SlavekB | regarding xchat: look into ~/.xsession-errors, if there appear some information. |
SemiNus | SlavekB, yep, there is an error |
SemiNus | I did: |
SemiNus | tail -f .xsession-errors |
SemiNus | when I type something in ALT+F2 (does not matter what) I get this error: |
SemiNus | kdesktop: WARNING: failed to obtain ELF icon: ELF resource section not found |
SemiNus | but I guess that is no problem, because I always get this error (no matter what I type) |
SlavekB | In settings of the Konsole are Keyboard shortcuts - there are also Copy and Paste. |
SemiNus | BUT when I write xchat and press ENTER I get this: |
SemiNus | /bin/sh: 1: eeecc: not found |
SemiNus | SlavekB, where exactly? I can't see any shortcodes? |
SemiNus | *shortcuts |
SemiNus | Settings -> Configure Konsole |
SlavekB | Regardless elf icon - it is only a warning - it does not affect the startup. |
SemiNus | /bin/sh: 1: eeecc: not found |
SemiNus | |
SlavekB | Settiongs => Configure shortcuts |
SemiNus | ^ this one does *not* come when I run firefox |
SemiNus | the last error message only comes when I try to run xchat |
SemiNus | thank you for the shortcuts :)) |
SlavekB | This "eeecc" is strange. |
SemiNus | when I run xchat in "konsole", I get *no* message at all |
SemiNus | xchat starts then |
SlavekB | try: file $(which xchat) |
SemiNus | /usr/bin/xchat:
ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked
(uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32,
BuildID[sha1]=e1ee91a574d75886c56f8e1875b8a70382bea22b, stripped |
SlavekB | Try to type in Alt+F2 dialog full path to xchat. |
SemiNus | that works |
SemiNus | is this the only solution? |
SemiNus | or can I fix that anyhow? |
SlavekB | it seems like a problem with xchat.desktop file. |
SemiNus | I just really start partying here :) |
SemiNus | trinity is cool :) |
SlavekB | However, I do not see anything suspicious in this file. |
SemiNus | let me try something... I have an idea |
SemiNus | wait a moment |
SemiNus | hahahaha :))) |
SemiNus | SlavekB, I solved it |
SemiNus | do you want to know how? |
SemiNus | it's really a bad way to solve it, but it works :) |
SlavekB | So, what was the problem? |
SemiNus | I only know the solution: |
SemiNus | cd /usr/bin/ |
SemiNus | mv xchat xchat2 |
SemiNus | cat > xchat |
SemiNus | /usr/bin/xchat2 |
SemiNus | CTRL+C |
SemiNus | chmod 777 xchat |
SemiNus | then you can run ALT+F2 "xchat" |
SemiNus | isn't that cool? :) |
SlavekB | interesting |
SemiNus | then there is an other problem: tray icons sometimes open in seperate windows |
SemiNus | I have a screenshot which proves that |
SemiNus | e.g. google chrome, xchat, etc. |
SemiNus | all the applications which have tray icons sometimes do not add the tray icon to the tray |
SemiNus | they open the tray icon in a window |
SemiNus | SlavekB, sorry if that was asked too much ^.^ |
SlavekB | You ask about applications that I not use :) |
SemiNus | sorry about that :( |
SemiNus | despite of that: I LOVE TRINITY |
SemiNus | thank you and also thank Timothy |
SemiNus | it's great :) |
SemiNus | it is *fast* |
SemiNus | and it works as expected |
SemiNus | no surprises like in KDE 4 |
SemiNus | bug in gwenview (crashes) |
SemiNus | (just found out that) |
SlavekB | on start? |
SlavekB | on openning image? |
SemiNus | on start |
SemiNus | I have a screenshot of the error message |
SemiNus | SlavekB, 1 last thing: |
SemiNus | mounting / unmounting |
SemiNus | there is a harddrive attached to my computer already when it boots |
SemiNus | so there will pop up no dialoque window because I do *not* attach it later |
SemiNus | it's attached to the PC at the boot already |
SemiNus | the only way I found to mount this device is: |
SemiNus | kwrite => CTRL + O => click the harddrive |
SlavekB | you can use url media:/ in konqueror |
SemiNus | then, I cannot unmount it via /media/ any more in konqueror |
SemiNus | oh |
SemiNus | I am sorry I did it wrong |
SemiNus | I typed /media/ |
SemiNus | it was media;/ ;) |
SemiNus | thx |
SemiNus | can I add the command "konqueror media:/" to my tray icons? |
SlavekB | I use the link on the home page of Konqueror running a Web browser :) |
SemiNus | ok I will create a command in /usr/bin/ |
SlavekB | it should be enough to make desktop file. |
SemiNus | true that |
SemiNus | SlavekB, thank you very much for your exhausting help! |
SlavekB | you're welcome |
SemiNus | sorry
that there were so many questions at a time, but I switched
back to trinity yesterday, so all of those questions occured
at the same time |
SemiNus | thank you again! |
SemiNus | see you soon, have a great evening :) |
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Borg^Queen | hello people |
Borg^Queen | Is anyone up for a camera challenge? gphoto2 on alexanders remaster isn't working it seems. |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: Please, you can raise priority for a few remaining R14.0.2 builds? https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+builds?build_state=pending |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Hmmm, that might take a while. I'm going to see if there's an API-based solution or not |
SlavekB | I
hoped that they are in queue before nightly, but apparently not,
because the last half a day running a series of builds from nightly. |
Borg^Queen | hi,
I've figured out that gphoto2 is buggy. I don't know if that's a
trinity build (the packages says so) but it seems to crash when
attempting to access a camera |
Borg^Queen | gtkam doesn't use it so it works. |
Borg^Queen | oh wait it seems to use gphoto2 |
SlavekB | Unfortunately, I do not know how are built packages for PCLinuxOS. |
Borg^Queen | Not to worry. I just wondered if this is a wide bug or specific |
SlavekB | I know that for Debian and Ubuntu is used gphoto from distribution. |
Borg^Queen | do they have any problems? |
SlavekB | Unfortunately I do not have tested it. |
SlavekB | I do not know if I have a device for which I would use gphoto... |
Borg^Queen | ok |
Borg^Queen | not to worry |
Borg^Queen | well gn to all |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: Sjöfn seems to be stuck |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: Restarting |
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yselkowitz | so is it not possible to use qt3 to build tde R14.0.1? |
SlavekB | For R14.0.0 and newer is used TQt3. |
yselkowitz | :-( |
yselkowitz | at first tqtinterface looks like it should handle the differences between them |
SlavekB | Yes,
TQt3 is in principle qt3 with builtin tqt interface. But probably no
one in recent times test whether R14.x can be built with base qt3. |
yselkowitz | I just did |
yselkowitz | tdelibs failed at tdefx due to missing TQStyleControlElementData |
SlavekB | Ha, it seems that TQStyleControlElementData is not treated in tqt interface. |
yselkowitz | could that just be added to tqtinterface if !HAVE_REAL_TQT? |
yselkowitz | no it's not |
SlavekB | now I look into tqtinterface - here is in tqt.h: |
SlavekB | #define
TQStyleControlElementData
QStyleControlElementData |
yselkowitz | but there is no QStyleControlElementData in qt3 |
yselkowitz | this is an api new to tqt3 |
SlavekB | You need Qt3 from Trinity git repository. |
SlavekB | The internal version number is as Qt 3.5 |
SlavekB | You cannot use Qt 3.3. |
yselkowitz | wait, you have a qt3 and tqt3? |
SlavekB | In
any case we recommended to use TQt3 rather than Qt3.5, because use
Qt3.5 would require update and rebuild of existing Qt3 applications! |
SlavekB | Qt3 is maintained, but for Trinity R14.x is now always used TQt3. |
yselkowitz | from the distro pov a separate tqt3 isn't optimal |
SlavekB | Thanks to this original Qt3.3 may coexist on the same machine with TQt3. |
yselkowitz | but it means you have to duplicate everything |
yselkowitz | e.g. fedora still ships qt3/arts/kdelibs3 |
SlavekB | However, for build is need to have only TQt3. |
yselkowitz | arts support in kdelibs3 requires libqtmcop |
yselkowitz | for tdelibs you would need a libtqtmcop right? |
SlavekB | yes |
yselkowitz | which means building your arts, not kde's |
SlavekB | yes |
yselkowitz | which would then break kdelibs3 |
yselkowitz | and so on for everything else which still carries qt3 support |
SlavekB | You can see how it solves François in Trinity packages for RPM based distributions. |
yselkowitz | ? |
SlavekB | On Debian / Ubuntu is Trinity located in separate /opt/trinity folder. |
yselkowitz | I thought the point of R14.0 was to not clash with kde? |
yselkowitz | which would imply no need for /opt (which, pardon the pun, is suboptimal) |
SlavekB | It was renamed many classes, several applications, but many continue to use the original names - such as Konqueror, KMail,... |
yselkowitz | and here I thought those were all going to be renamed in R14 :-( |
SlavekB | Renaming everything completely would require much, much more effort. |
SlavekB | Remember that Trinity, including all applications is many times greater project than, for example Mate. |
yselkowitz | oh I know, I've been packaging kde for years |
yselkowitz | but I still thought that was all part of R14 |
yselkowitz | are all the shared libraries renamed? |
SlavekB | All base dependencies for Trinity - tqt, dbus-tqt, avahi-tqt, etc was renamed == can coexists with original dbus-qt3, avahi-qt3. |
SlavekB | Many
base Trinity libraries was rename - tdecore, tdeprint,... however, it
is recommended to put a complete Trinity in a separate folder. |
yselkowitz | what about libkonq? libkipi? etc. |
yselkowitz | libkdegames? |
SlavekB | They
should not interfere with the versions from KDE4 (in KDE4 probably have
newer so version), but it probably would cause a collision with KDE3
libraries. |
yselkowitz | :-( |
SlavekB | tdegames was renamed, but libkonq not. |
yselkowitz | well, not the answer I was hoping for, but thanks for your help |
SlavekB | We
do not have enough developers. And we prefer the necessary move forward
(tdehw library for replace hal, etc.) before renaming, which require a
lot of effort and for common users brings no benefit. |
yselkowitz | imho renaming is prerequisite to inclusion in distros |
SlavekB | Yes, it is absolutely clear! |
SlavekB | Therefore
currently is no effort to integrate Trinity as a standard part of
distributions. It is clear to us that in this moment is not possible to
think about that. |
SlavekB | It could say that the Trinity is the largest desktop environment independent of any distribution :) |
yselkowitz | but inclusoin in distros is a necessary step for building user base (and eventually contributions as well) |
SlavekB | This makes it a bit ironic that currently has the support for the greatest number of versions of the distributions. |
SlavekB | Look
at the list of supported versions of Debian and Ubuntu, look at the
list of supported versions of RPM based distributions. And for all is
available the latest version of the Trinity. |
yselkowitz | well it's your choice, but I'd think you'd be better off being *in* the distros |
SlavekB | Yes, sure, it would have been better. |
yselkowitz | in any case, I understand now what is going on, and I'll have to reassess my plans to build this myself |
SlavekB | Unfortunately, renaming absolutely everything requires more effort than we have available hands. |
SlavekB | You looked at the rpm packages prepared by François? |
yselkowitz | I was actually looking at packaging this for cygwin |
SlavekB | François makes great efforts to support the many rpm based distributions. |
SlavekB | wow, cygwin == Trinity for Windows? |
yselkowitz | sort of |
yselkowitz | cygwin != mingw |
yselkowitz | cygwin is a *nix/x11 environment which runs on windows |
SlavekB | yes, I know |
yselkowitz | I've been packaging kde for cygwin since the late 3.x days |
SlavekB | I sometimes use mingw based tools and also and cygwin based tools. |
SlavekB | Now I understand why collisions of libraries and binaries is for you a greater problem than official Trinity packages. |
yselkowitz | yep, no rpath |
yselkowitz | you may know me as cygwinports |
SlavekB | we are often surprised by what port users interested. |
SlavekB | For example, ports for *BSD distributions. |
yselkowitz | I'm
not surprised, both the technical requirements and interface changes to
gnome 3 and plasma 5 have made many search for alternatives,
particularly on non-linux platforms which seem to often be forgotten |
SlavekB | the reason was little support for OpenBSD and greater support for FreeBSD. |
SlavekB | *BSD world seems to be quite fragmented :) |
yselkowitz | yes, unfortunately true |
yselkowitz | but thanks for pointing out the fedora rpms, I'm curious to try those on my fedora system |
SlavekB | As far as I know, François is currently working on packages for Fedora 23 |
yselkowitz | I'm still on f22 |
SlavekB | by the way, soon will be released Trinity R14.0.2 |
SlavekB | In
any case, it is pleased for us that, although we are for some very
evil, there are a number of other users who are interested. |
yselkowitz | I understand there is no evil intent here, just a technical impediment |
yselkowitz | it would just be nice to see that overcome |
yselkowitz | hmm, the .repo file for f22 points to a nonexistent mirrorlist? |
SlavekB | As
the evil I had not in the mind you :) The main developer of kwin had
previously need to very intensively proclaim that we are very bad. |
SlavekB | http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/f22/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64/ |
yselkowitz | yes I found it but the repo files should be fixed |
SlavekB | repodata are wrong? |
yselkowitz | I installed the repo file per https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/FedoraInstall#For_Fedora_22_.28R14.0.1.29 |
yselkowitz | but the trinity.repo file therein pointed to http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f22/trinity-r14-x86_64.list |
yselkowitz | which doesn't exist |
SlavekB | Ah, I see it. |
SlavekB | Please, you can fill bug report? |
SlavekB | I suppose that François can fix it quickly. |
yselkowitz | wow, just started tde on f22, that brings back some memories |
SlavekB | :) |
SlavekB | welcome back at home :) |
yselkowitz | your bz is a bit slow... |
SlavekB | ? |
yselkowitz | filed bug 2544 |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2544 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , trinity.repo points to nonexistent mirrorlist |
kb9vqf | ysellkowitz: RAID array is currently rebuilding from SAS disk failure, it will have better performance tommorrow :-) |
yselkowitz | kb9vqf, that would explain it |
kb9vqf | yeah, sorry about that. You have impeccable timing, first disk failure in years :-) |
yselkowitz | I always have good timing :-S |
SlavekB | I have to go away - I will be offline for several hours... |
yselkowitz | thanks for the clarification SlavekB |
SlavekB | yselkowitz: you're welcome |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: please, you can verify priority of tdeaddons and rosegarden? |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/284052 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/287469 |
SlavekB | they
are two of the latest builds... Rosegarden failed probably due to drive
failure and perhaps because of this could be at the end of queue. |
a-865 | can openSUSE 42.1 users use either the 13.1 or 13.2 repo, or must they wait for a dedicated repo? |
SlavekB | a-865:
Unfortunately I have no idea how much different versions of libraries
are used, and if it can cause a problem of dependencies for Trinity. |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2545 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2545 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: kdbusnotification FTBFS |
SlavekB | a-865:
it would be better to ask on the mailing list - there may react
François, who has a much better overview of RPM based distributions. |
a-865 | SlavekB: Ok |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2545 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2545 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Build issue: kdbusnotification FTBFS |
SlavekB | kb9vqf: Please, you can raise priority for last two builds? |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/284052 |
SlavekB | https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/ubuntu/main-r14/+build/287469 |
kb9vqf | SlavekB: Done |
SlavekB | Thank you! |
kb9vqf | np |
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fusion809 | Hey
guys, I was just wondering why PKGBUILDS haven't been written for TDE
and its various components, so that Arch users don't have to manually
compile Trinity and all of its several components in order to use it |
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skrzyp | kb9vqf:
how much developers are in TDE? I'm afraid that number of additional
applications in TDE (games, tools, toys) might be too much effort for
small group of developers. |
kb9vqf | skrzyp:
Three core developers at present, none of whome have much time but
Slavek has essentially taken on the release maintainer role |
skrzyp | wait wait wait |
kb9vqf | skrzyp: Fortunately as TDE is relatively stable and mature software not much maintainance is needed |
skrzyp | only THREEE developers for about ~1 GB of sources? |
skrzyp | E* |
kb9vqf | See previous comments on relatively mature ;-) |
skrzyp | ah, okay |
kb9vqf | Remember TDE was forked from essentially the finished KDE 3.x series product |
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skrzyp | kb9vqf: which version of GTK3 I need to use gtk3-tqt engine? The current one in Debian repo is crashing every gtk3 app |
skrzyp | I'm going to attach a screenshot, gimme a sec |
skrzyp | kb9vqf: https://sr.ht/wGQX.png |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2546 filed by darrella@clovermail.net. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2546 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , GTK3 Style Engine erases user defined settings |
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tbottu | 10ac586133@hotmail.com changed the Status on bug 2534 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2534 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEHWLIB : TDE detects USB external cd/dvd burner as floppy disk drive |
kb9vqf | skrzyp: Sorry for the delay; just stopped by to check for something else and sway your message |
kb9vqf | *saw |
kb9vqf | That
particular software is alpha quality at best; I wrote it years ago by
now when GTK wasn't really stable, and eventually got frustrated enough
by GTK's limitations that I stopped working on it until GTK's API and
capabilities matured somewhat |
kb9vqf | You can still see the bug reports I filed on the GTK bugtracker for some of the most irritating issues |
skrzyp | GTK API changes every release |
skrzyp | soo... -.- |
skrzyp | kb9vqf: what should I do to get uniform GTK and Qt look then? |
kb9vqf | skrzyp: Not much you can do other than to start hacking on the theme engine :-) |
skrzyp | meh, those them engines mostly sucks |
kb9vqf | You know KDE SC 5 and Gnome only "integrate" because someone created the same theme for both platforms, right? |
skrzyp | does qtcurve is available to tde? |
kb9vqf | so basically you're stuck on one or two themes forever if you want the same look |
kb9vqf | yes, it's there |
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skrzyp | kb9vqf: Is that very hard to package TDE in another distribution than redhat/debian based? |
kb9vqf | skrzyp: It shouldn't be, no, you just have to get the dependencies in order |
skrzyp | kb9vqf:
I use Void Linux on my desk, which is independent (but mature)
distribution, uses own package manager where packages are generated from
template files, like some sh scripts with some built-in functions |
skrzyp | kb9vqf: example pkg: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/voidlinux/void-packages/master/srcpkgs/bomi/template |
kb9vqf | skrzyp: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/How_to_Build_TDE_Core_Modules |
kb9vqf | you should be able to start from there |
skrzyp | kb9vqf: so I should package about ~300 pkgs, it might need separate repo… |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2547 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2547 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KPDF not working on Debian Jessie |
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Borg^Queen | hi people I'm currently getting this warning; couldn't find charset data for locale c; using iso 8859-1 |
Borg^Queen | This is Ali's pclos remaster |
Borg^Queen | I'm trying to figure out how to fix it wo a reinstall. |
pitriss | hi.. this is i think not trinitys fault.. |
pitriss | try to reinstall locale files. |
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Borg^Queen | aye, just did, but I think I'm going to uninstall them and reinstall |
Borg^Queen | because I can log in as another user. |
Borg^Queen | let's see what happens |
pitriss | ok |
Borg^Queen | ah, I see your reply now lol |
pitriss | did it helped?:) |
Borg^Queen | just about to see |
Borg^Queen | yes it did thanks |
pitriss | youre welcome:) |
Borg^Queen | now I need to figure out how to kill off kde and leave trinity |
pitriss | that depends on your distro.. |
Borg^Queen | pclos |
Borg^Queen | it's Ali's remaster |
pitriss | idk that distro.. I'm using debian wheezy.. but PC LOS doesn't have apt-get.. |
Borg^Queen | ok all good so far. I've removed kdm leaving tdm |
Borg^Queen | thanks for listening, I appreciate it. |
pitriss | anytime:) |
Borg^Queen | :) |
Borg^Queen | ok have to pause me experiments. two crakmonkeys are coming over |
Borg^Queen | oh crap they're dragging desktops with them. Wish me luck. |
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pitriss | lol, good luck then.. |
Borg^Queen | >: |
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SemiNus | SlavekB, not sure if you are here at this time, I only wanted to say THANK YOU :) |
SemiNus | You helped me a *lot* the last time. |
SemiNus | I *love* using trinity-desktop! |
SemiNus | trinity is exactly what I need for my daily work life |
SemiNus | I am very, very grateful to you, SlavekB, and also to you, Timothy, that you made this project come true |
SemiNus | I love trinity desktop :) |
SemiNus | thank you again! |
SemiNus | bye bye :) |
BQ-AFK | :) |
BQ-AFK | bye |
SemiNus | hi BQ-AFK :) |
BQ-AFK | hi |
SemiNus | BQ-AFK, but hey for real, it's the best desktop out there :) |
SemiNus | It does exactly what I need, being a programmer, I need the desktop to work |
SemiNus | and trinity works perfectly :) |
SemiNus | good night :) |
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notebook | hello can i ask here if i have some problem on TDE ? |
pitriss | try it:) |
notebook | thanks, if i run krusader with using tdesu i see on konsole: |
notebook | Error: "/var/tmp/tdecache-notebook" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. |
notebook | Error: "/tmp/tdesocket-notebook" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. |
notebook | tdeio
(KMimeMagic): WARNING: [bool KMimeMagic::mergeConfig(const
TQString&)] KMimeMagic::mergeConfig disabled due to buggy libmagic
version 514 |
notebook | krusader: WARNING: [KMimeMagic::KMimeMagic()] Failed to parse /etc/trinity/magic/tdeio.magic |
notebook | firstime using chat, interesting how its works |
pitriss | :) |
pitriss | So i don't have tdeio.magic file.. |
pitriss | and does it run as expected? |
pitriss | because i'm getting too many *magic* errors/warnings and krusader is working fine |
pitriss | and about first error.. You can try to use tdesudo instead tdesu maybe. (if you are using sudo of course) |
notebook | krusader run ok, but when i edit some file, its not possible save this file because of permission |
notebook | for example in kate text editor |
notebook | and sorry for my english and thanks |
notebook | so with tdesudo its same error on konsole |
pitriss | also that error about uid 1000? |
pitriss | weird |
notebook | yes |
pitriss | its strange for me because I have also owned these directories by me (uid 1000) and I have no error.. |
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notebook | hmmm ..i dont know whats wrong |
pitriss | maybe setting of tdesu.. |
pitriss | because in my system tdesu is symlink for tdesudo |
notebook | i will try and thank you for your time and help, i want work with TDE, i remember when i was on KDE3 on opensuse, it was best |
notebook | i use Mint 17.2 now |
pitriss | Ok.. I'm using debian wheezy:) You can try to ask later or wait till someone else try to answer your question:) |
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notebook | ok..thank you :) have a nice day |
pitriss | notebook: ask slavek he is really skilled developer..:) |
notebook | i will try it |
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SemiNus | hi |
SemiNus | short question: |
SemiNus | I tried this: |
SemiNus | "Start" => Trinity Control Center => Peripherals => Mouse => [x] Single-click to open files and folders |
SemiNus | however, I still have to double-click when I want to open a folder / file in the Open-Dialogue window of kwrite |
SemiNus | any ideas what to change? |
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SemiNus | I try to restart KDE |
SemiNus | maybe that helps... |
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MutantTurkey | kb9vqf: this trinity-users list is fuckin' absurd |
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MutantTurkey | join #magento |
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ShadowM00n | sorry
if I missed something already existing, but has anyone else had issues
installing trinity on Ubuntu Wily due to a missing package? |
SlavekB | ShadowM00n: missing packages? |
ShadowM00n | yes, libxp6 in particular |
SlavekB | you have apt sources for Trinity set to willy? |
ShadowM00n | I do, yes |
SlavekB | Ah,
I see it! On libxp6 depends only metapackage kubuntu-desktop-trinity.
You can successfully install individual Trinity packages. |
ShadowM00n | looking around, it looks like libxp6 was removed from Wily for some reason |
SlavekB | Later I'll look at it to prepare a quick fix for R14.0.2... |
SlavekB | ShadowM00n: Thank you! |
ShadowM00n | glad I was able to help, then |
SlavekB | well, here is origin: |
SlavekB | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657253 |
ShadowM00n | makes sense |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2548 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2548 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KStars failing to install "hot new stuff" |
Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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selk | hi |
selk | it's trinity more light (in resources) than the original kde3? |
Borg^Queen | about the same, maybe a little less. |
pitriss | Guys
i want to ask.. when I'm shutting down my laptop, it is asking about
some sending notifications or abort them.. But on desktop I have no such
thing.. how I can autoforce abort on laptop? |
Borg^Queen | not following |
Borg^Queen | You tried to shutdown and it stopped halfway and is hanging there? |
pitriss | nope.. its timed dialog which ask if i want to wait till some shutdown notification are sent or abort them |
Borg^Queen | ah |
Borg^Queen | sorry about the delay. I've been trying to figure out why ksevicemenus weren't working. |
Borg^Queen | Oh you're seeing the application shutdown notification. A rectangular dialog yes? |
Borg^Queen | ok me time is up. I'm off. gn or day to all. |
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pitriss | SlavekB:
hi, please can you explain to me why on my laptop i see dialog with
"sending shutdown notifications" while shutting down and how i can
disable that?:) |
SlavekB | In Trinity Control Center / TDE Components / Session you can disable Show logout status dialog. |
pitriss | SlavekB: so it will stop asking about aboir that? Thank you:) |
pitriss | *abort |
pitriss | but
err.. I have it enabled on desktop and it doesn't show such dialog when
shutting down.. wait sec I will try to explain more that dialog:) |
SlavekB | This disable the use of the window displaying the progress of the end of the session. |
pitriss | ahh.. i want to force "abort send notification" |
SlavekB | However,
if the problem is that some application does not respond to a signal to
end of session, will be addressed this application. |
SlavekB | If
I remember correctly, the time for waiting to response from
applications can not be changed in the settings. Only at build time. |
pitriss | that dialog says "skip notification" or "abort logout request"... Is there way to force "skip notification" without asking?:) |
pitriss | hmm
maybe could be better to add checkbox with "remember my answer"..
because I don't see any missing application when my laptop statrs |
pitriss | so I don't suppose there is any app closed in wrong way.. |
SlavekB | The
procedure is this: Is sent a signal about end of session to
applications and is given time to respond. If some of application do not
respond within a given time, the user gets to decide whether to wait,
or force termination. |
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pitriss | SlavekB:
ok now i understand.. so I have no other way how to force any option..
Is there way how to see which app is causing this? |
pitriss | SlavekB: I hope there is way to track down that app..:) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2549 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2549 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Users created in KUser don't appear in TDM |
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Borg^Queen | hi
people I've noticed that trinity is centering the desktop icons when
loading the desktop. how do I stop it from rearranging the icons? |
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pitriss | Borg^Queen:
err right click desktop, desktop settings => behavior and there on
second tab is "align icons" checkbox.. sorry my system is not in english
so I can't tell you exactly |
Borg^Queen | no to worry I'll check again. I did look but pppphhh, never hurts to check again. I've often missed things. |
Borg^Queen | you mean behavior, file icons, automatically line up icons (it's not checked off so not active) is that what you meant? |
pitriss | yep.. |
pitriss | weird then.. |
pitriss | Borg^Queen: hmm another idea |
Borg^Queen | ok |
pitriss | right click desktop => icons => lock icons |
Borg^Queen | tried that too, doesn't work |
pitriss | then its probably bug |
Borg^Queen | agreed |
pitriss | but it happened also on original KDE 3.5 that hidden panel caused moved icons.. |
Borg^Queen | explain |
pitriss | (thats what I remember) |
Borg^Queen | can you expand on it? |
pitriss | when
I had hidden kicker on left size, then after start, it appeared as
visible for tiny while which caused moving (and rearranging) of icons |
Borg^Queen | ah I don't have auto hid on |
Borg^Queen | Yes, I do remember that |
pitriss | :) ok then I have no idea why your icons are rearranged.. mine are ok.. |
Borg^Queen | hmm, what distro? |
pitriss | debian wheezy.. |
Borg^Queen | ah, |
pitriss | I don't like systemd, so wheezy is only option for me now... devuan is still too hacky.. |
Borg^Queen | That's why I don't use debian anymore, systemd |
Borg^Queen | /: |
pitriss | there is too much disappointing things around debian last days.. |
pitriss | wheezy is OK tho.. |
Borg^Queen | Aye, |
Borg^Queen | I'm thinking of going slackware, I like the philosophy of including devel packages |
pitriss | I just not decided to leave debian.. I still hope that reason can win there:) |
Borg^Queen | I hope so too. |
Borg^Queen | I just don't trust systemd |
Borg^Queen | Something about it, makes me uneasy |
pitriss | For
me its breaking unix philosophy main reason why I don't like that
tool.. not readable logs, its doing many things and nobody knows what
exactly it is doing.. |
Borg^Queen | exactly |
Borg^Queen | thank you that's exactly what bothers me. It's trying to do too much and it isn't transparent |
pitriss | I love those tiny tools doing exactly what they should.. I love to chaining them to do more complex tasks..:) |
Borg^Queen | exactly, I want to be in control |
Borg^Queen | if I wanted to be told what to do by software, I'd got to apple or MS |
pitriss | exactly..:) |
pitriss | but there is not many distros without systemd.. gentoo, LFS.. |
Borg^Queen | aye, that's scary |
pitriss | so
I hope in BSD port working flawlesly.. There is no point to change
distros.. when change, then it doesn't matter if its smaller or bigger..
both needs learning of something new.. so why not BSD.. there Lennart
have (almost) no influence.. and there seems developement be more
conservative |
pitriss | Only thing what I need is some sane DE like Trinity.:) |
Borg^Queen | I also hate pulse audio for that matter |
Borg^Queen | true |
pitriss | Pulse audio is also great bloatware.. but.. there is reason to use it on some sucky onboard soundcards without hardware mixer.. |
pitriss | because setting .asoundrc correctly can be really pain:) |
Borg^Queen | aye |
pitriss | I have SB Live! so I have no problem:) |
Borg^Queen | me too, SB Audigy |
Borg^Queen | I love SB, even though the company is a little turdy |
pitriss | hehe this HW can't be wrong choice these days.. last pieces of really good HW for good price:) |
pitriss | I
don't judge companies too much.. even bad company can produce good
products.. like MS and their Xpads.. they are surprisingly durable..
they can handle really rough gaming:D |
Borg^Queen | ah lol xpads are outsourced to another company. MS just rebrands them |
pitriss | and xpad is more ergonomic than playstation like gamepads.. even If I prefer logitech, they have no gamepad with xpad layout |
pitriss | really? I didn't did any research..:) |
pitriss | but i love these gamepads... |
Borg^Queen | they are good game pads |
Borg^Queen | brb |
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Borg^Queen | I'm currently retrieving data from an 486 133mhz computer with a 1.6g hd |
Borg^Queen | it's an antique |
pitriss | still better than dosbox for playing good old games:D |
Borg^Queen | You read me mind. I'm saving to play dos games, Descent, Terminator etc |
pitriss | yeah:D |
pitriss | My friend had 486 laptop.. I wanted it as great replacement for gameboy:D |
Borg^Queen | lol |
pitriss | I wasn't surprised that he decided to keep that awesome piece of HW:D |
Borg^Queen | oh selfish |
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Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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Borg^Queen | does anyone else have the problem of desktop icon centering and aligning when the desktop loads? |
Borg^Queen | ah this is interesting it only happens as one user. the rest are fine. Is there a file I can delete modify? |
pitriss | Borg^Queen: try to compare settings of these users:) |
Borg^Queen | I'm going old school and moving .trinity and letting it rebuild |
Borg^Queen | brb |
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Borg^Queen | hi people I'm getting R14 update error dialog boxes on boot |
Borg^Queen | the txt mentions three things, let me get the list |
Borg^Queen | kde-noatun.desktop, kde-d3lphin.desktop |
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Borg^Queen | nm fixed it |
Borg^Queen | thanks |
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pitriss | hi I just noticed that you released 14.0.2. is there any mirror containing it to not overload main server? |
SlavekB | pitriss: What distribution? |
pitriss | wheezy |
SlavekB | I would say that you not need affraid about overload the primary server. |
SlavekB | ...if you use apt source address mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org |
pitriss | SlavekB: ok i will try..:) |
SlavekB | Once the packages lists will be updated on mirrors, should be also available packages for most distributions. |
pitriss | SlavekB: ok.. i'm trying to update now but its slow.. so maybe will be better to wait till mirrors will be updated too.. |
SlavekB | and you're on apt source mirror.ppa....? |
SlavekB | I still do not see on mirrors an updated apt lists. |
pitriss | mirror.ppa is 302 to ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net and I already have this in my sources.list |
SlavekB | mirror.ppa uses 302 depending on where the packages are available. |
SlavekB | if you have in apt sources stated specifically ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net, you do not use mirror.ppa. |
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tbottu | 10jorgebr51@yahoo.com.br changed the Status on bug 2456 from NEW --- to RESOLVED INVALID. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2456 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, close session with VNC also close other open sessions |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2550 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2550 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KMail not recognizing renamed/removed mail transport |
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pitriss | Hi guys.. I wamt to report broken repo for wheezy.. it ends up with 301 moved permanently and can't find files |
SlavekB | Redirector on a quickbuild currently contains bug. |
SlavekB | You
can either wait until it's repaired, or change apt source to a new
redirector and wait until R14.0.2 will be published on the mirrors :) |
pitriss | ok i can wait.. |
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kb9vqf | pitriss: Sorry, it's the Thanksgiving holiday over here and my system access is spotty. Should be fixed |
pitriss | Ok thanks:) |
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SlavekB | pitriss: redirector on master server is fixed! |
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pitriss | SlavekB: ohh thanks:) |
SlavekB | pitriss: download speed was also interesting? ;) |
pitriss | yep it was..:D few minutes instead of hours..:) |
SlavekB | because are downloaded from mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org, instead of from the master server :) |
pitriss | ahh great:) |
pitriss | thank you guys for such great job:) |
SlavekB | thanks
to it is now well on both sides - most users will download packages
quickly, while synchronization to the mirros is not slowed by users! |
pitriss | yeah great solution..:) |
kb9vqf | We
now effectively have a thee-tier mirroring system, which isn't too
shabby for a small open source project not renting infrastructure from a
large corporation ;-) |
kb9vqf | Slavek's
system is backup + level 1 cache / mirror, and the other two levels are
largely from dedicated open source mirroring organizations |
SlavekB | Well, as a reward I am going to prepare dinner for myself ;) |
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Borg^Queen | gn to all |
SlavekB | Borg^Queen: gn |
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|avalon| | ehlo :) |
|avalon| | anyone available for support ? |
|avalon| | problem is about installing on centos 7, lot of broken dependencies |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2551 filed by danilo.bogdanov@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2551 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE fails to install on Centos 7 because of broken dependencies |
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pat | hey people having trouble connecting to wifi with wpa |
pitriss | try to use eg network manager, wicd or so. |
pat | ok wicd |
pat | I've tried several apps but I get this msg |
pat | ==>stderr: Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: Not a directory |
pitriss | I can't help you as I have no wifi device on my desktop:) |
pitriss | so I have no idea about wpa supplicant |
pat | ah |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: Maintainence complete; came within a few minutes of restoration time :-D |
SlavekB | I see a build LibreOffice will probably remain in the queue and ran without help. |
kb9vqf | good to know |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: topis here could be updated to R14.0.2 :) |
SlavekB | *topic |
*** kb9vqf changes topic to "Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.2 is out [http://bit.ly/1Nkq5mZ]! Get it at https://www.trinitydesktop.org Also, consider joining the Trinity mailing lists [http://bit.ly/hZ83mF]. IRC will be most active/helpful during business hours in the USA. BOTW #1998 Support the Project! [http://bit.ly/pmkMVB]" |
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Anastasia | :-): |
Anastasia | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages 509 Maximum Instantaneous Bandwidth Exceeded |
Anastasia | :-) |
SlavekB | Anastasia: you should use mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org instead of ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net |
Anastasia | Ah, been a while since I set this up :). Thanks. |
Anastasia | Just change "/ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net" to "mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org" ? Anything else? |
SlavekB | Yes, exactly |
Anastasia | Thanks! |
Anastasia | Works :-), much quicker too. |
Anastasia | Thanks again! |
SlavekB | you're welcome |
Anastasia | Got to get this on the lappy, mint 17.2 with {rech, heave} kde4.... |
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pitriss | Hi guys.. Does anyone using Klipper actions? |
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Borg^Queen | hello to all |
SlavekB | Borg^Queen: hi |
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Space_Man | hello |
Space_Man | Borg^Queen: have you fixed your desktop window icon problem? |
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SemiNus | hi |
SemiNus | SlavekB ? |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2552 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2552 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Long-standing TDE (KDE3 too) bug: KDesktop bug at startup on slower PCs |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2553 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2553 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Adding this new startup splash screen for TDE: Architecture |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2554 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2554 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Adding this new startup splash screen for TDE: Architecture |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2555 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2555 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , At least KuickShow and MoodinKDE show low quality resized pictures |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2392 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , Fedora 21 does not fully recognize ogg files |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2392 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Fedora 21 does not fully recognize ogg files |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2543 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2543 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: FTBFS on Fedora 23 / perl 5.22 |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2442 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2442 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Ruby: uninitialized constant Qt::TQt in qtruby.rb |
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yselkowitz | is there a procedure for reporting security vulnerabilities in tde? |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2556 filed by yselkowi@redhat.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2556 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [SECURITY] CVE-2015-7543: arts,tdelibs: Use of mktemp(3) allows attacker to hijack the IPC |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2557 filed by mrmazda@earthlink.net. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2557
normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [openSUSE] /opt/trinity/bin/starttde
missing from $PATH, and will not run from
/usr/share/xsessions/trinity.desktop via TDM |
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Borg^Queen | hello to all |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2557 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2557
normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , [openSUSE]
/opt/trinity/bin/starttde missing from $PATH, and will not run from
/usr/share/xsessions/trinity.desktop via TDM |
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tbottu | 10mrmazda@earthlink.net changed the Status on bug 2557 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2557
normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [openSUSE] /opt/trinity/bin/starttde
missing from $PATH, and will not run from
/usr/share/xsessions/trinity.desktop via TDM |
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Borg^Queen | hi any one up? |
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Borg^Queen | hi |
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frusen | hi |
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Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2417 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2417 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, pkglist.x86_64 not found |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1913 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1913 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, krandr wrong options to xrandr |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1875 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1875
blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: libtqt-perl
FTBFS - /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsmoketqt (needs smoke/tqt/.libs) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2558 filed by trin@3111skyline.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2558 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , katepart - find & replace - Placeholder Help Missing |
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Borg^Queen | hi people |
Borg^Queen | chalk (krita) isn't recognizing it's own file format |
SlavekB | Borg^Queen: I fear that this may be the result of many renaming that had been implemented. Please, can you fill bug report? |
Borg^Queen | ok I'll try. Never actually file one before. |
Borg^Queen | I'm going to research it first. See if this hasn't come up in the past. |
Borg^Queen | it ONLY affect chalk |
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pitriss | Hi guys, please what is correct format of exception line in kcontrol =>Components=>Session manager? |
pitriss | i want to put there multiple apps and IDK correct delimiter |
Space_Man | "Finally,
you can enter a colon (:) separated list of applications that should
not be saved in sessions, and therefore won't be started when restoring a
session. For example xterm:konsole." |
Space_Man | sometimes the help button actually does have some useful info :P |
pitriss | lol but its rare when help button is actually helpful:D |
pitriss | thank you:) |
pitriss | and lol, my help says comma.. err.. some black magic is done here.. |
pitriss | I guess localizations aren't updated after change.. |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2556 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2556 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , [SECURITY] CVE-2015-7543: arts,tdelibs: Use of mktemp(3) allows attacker to hijack the IPC |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2558 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2558 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , katepart - find & replace - Placeholder Help Missing |
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tdepower | Hello. |
tdepower | I was wondering how to get/install tdepowersave on a newly installed Trinity(Ubuntu) 14.04. installation. Anybody knows? |
SlavekB | may be: |
SlavekB | aptitude install tdepowersave-trinity |
tdepower | ... |
tdepower | ouh damn. |
tdepower | Thanks man.. |
tdepower | FailFIsh |
tdepower | I thought I've tested that before! |
tdepower | Mhm.. |
tdepower | ah ok 'man' exists |
tdepower | Thanks a lot!!! |
SlavekB | you're welcome |
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tdepower | Hey sorry, I have another question...or kinda related to it.. |
tdepower | Although I am able to execute 'man tdepowersave' |
tdepower | tdepowersave on the command line leads to: command not found ?! |
tdepower | Am I doing something wrong? Or what else should be the cmd to start tdepowersave? |
SlavekB | is /opt/trinity/bin in PATH? |
tdepower | Ouh no |
tdepower | It is not! |
tdepower | That might be a thing! |
tdepower | Thanks again! |
tdepower | Thank you! |
SlavekB | You're logged in TDE? Or in some other DE? |
tdepower | I've just made a clean TDE install from the ISO of the hp.. |
tdepower | Downloaded it and installed it (TDE). |
tdepower | But had some issues with my earlier 12.04. TDE and moved some folders.. |
tdepower | Which might be the reason for some things not working properly :/ |
tdepower | And use ssh atm.. |
tdepower | Working remotely on that pc |
SlavekB | Ah, that explains it - starttde would set the PATH. |
tdepower | Ah ok |
tdepower | Ok that helped a lot. |
tdepower | Thanks a again! And mb until another time! |
tdepower | bb! |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2559 filed by rademes@inbox.ru. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2559 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Konqueror R14.0.1 does not show fixed hard disk size and used space correctly |
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larry_ | New
here. I'm trying to load tde on centos 6 and getting this
error: "the name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided
by and service files. |
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Borg^Queen | hi anyone up? |
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SlavekB | Borg^Queen: You have R14.0.2 or R14.0.3~preliminary? |
Borg^Queen | R14.0.2 |
Borg^Queen | I don't let the users use anything but 'stable' |
Borg^Queen | are you on R14.0.2, if so can you try to open a chalk template? |
SlavekB | For R14.0.3 will be solved bug related to mime types - see: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Changelog_For_R14.0.3 - bug 2392 |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Fedora 21 does not fully recognize ogg files |
SlavekB | I'm currently on 3.5.13.2 :) |
Borg^Queen | ah lovely. Is it possible to update from an existing R14.0.2 |
Borg^Queen | I've been thinking of going back to 3.5.13.2 since it seems to be rock solid |
SlavekB | You can test Chalk and K3B on R14.0.3~pre? |
Borg^Queen | if I can move up to it. |
Borg^Queen | is there a repo I can add? |
SlavekB | For Debian and Ubuntu are packages available in 'preliminary-stable-builds' repository: |
Borg^Queen | ah rats I'm running pclos |
SlavekB | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds |
Borg^Queen | oh well |
SlavekB | does not matter - I'll try to test over the weekend... |
Borg^Queen | ok thanks |
SlavekB | What version of libmagic you have? (You can try: file --version) |
Borg^Queen | problem is I have about 19 using R14.0.2 and experiencing these problems. So i'm trying to keep ahead of it. |
Borg^Queen | ok hang on |
SlavekB | For your information - R14.0.3 will going to release soon... |
Borg^Queen | excellent |
Borg^Queen | libmagic is 5.18 |
Borg^Queen | libmagic1 is 5.18 and libmagic6 is 6.8.0.2 |
SlavekB | ok, given bug could be related to this version of libmagic. |
Borg^Queen | makes sense |
Borg^Queen | they handle minetypes and lib functions right? |
SlavekB | There are differences in returned mime types. |
Borg^Queen | sorry? |
SlavekB | For example, with file 5.11 is ogg file reported as: application/ogg. |
SlavekB | With file 5.22 is same ogg reported as audio/ogg. |
SlavekB | ...and problem is, that audio/ogg is undefined in TDE. |
Borg^Queen | hmm |
SlavekB | Due to this was audio/ogg degraded to application/octed-stream. |
Borg^Queen | ooh |
SlavekB | And this will be fixed in R14.0.3 |
Borg^Queen | good |
Borg^Queen | technically this and the fact that the most visually impaired compatible theme (baghira) don't work, everything else is fine. |
SlavekB | And in the same manner may be affected also other mime types. |
Borg^Queen | aye |
SlavekB | on my home machine I have R14.0.3~pre, so I can try it there. |
Borg^Queen | thank you |
Borg^Queen | I have little problems with oggs here. Just the theme, k3b, chalk, rtf and a few more mimetypes |
Borg^Queen | ok I'll be back in 3 hrs. Going on site to deal with crakmonkey office. |
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pitriss | err guys.. wheezy package kpilot-trinity doesn't contain binaries |
pitriss | there is only share/doc inside |
BQ-AFK | ah crap |
pitriss | (14.0.2) |
SlavekB | pitriss: wow, good point |
BQ-AFK | bbl |
pitriss | SlavekB: I'm user of palm treo 680 so i wanted to give it next try as I have dificulties with correct udev lines |
pitriss | bb BQ-AFK |
BQ-AFK | :D |
SlavekB | pitriss: I think I know what the problem is. |
pitriss | SlavekB: Great.. :) I hope it will be easy to solve:) |
SlavekB | pitriss: yes, it will be easy :) |
pitriss | great:) |
SlavekB | pitriss: fixed in tde-packaging git. New packages will be soon in preliminary stable builds repository... |
pitriss | SlavekB: ok thanks:) |
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Borg^Queen | gn to all |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2560 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2560 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Desktop locking does not hide desktop contents |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2561 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2561 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE's QtCurve requires KDE on Debian Jessie |
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SemiNus | hi |
SemiNus | SlavekB? ^.^ |
SlavekB | SemiNus: hi |
SemiNus | :) |
SemiNus | I only have a few quick things |
SemiNus | 1)
You can only see the strenght of a WiFi network when it's a *new*
network - the ones you connected before do now show the strenght any
more |
SemiNus | 2)
in kwrite: CTRL + SHIFT + I (for un-indent) does
only unindents until the first line of the block hits the left side - I
cannot proceed unindenting then |
SemiNus | 2) ALT+F2 "kdesu kwrite" does not work - (kdesu does not exist?) |
SlavekB | Ad 1) You can install kwifimanager-trinity |
SlavekB | Ad 3) In R14 was kdesu renamed to tdesu |
SemiNus | thx =) |
SemiNus | I
would like to upgrade from Ubuntu 15.04 to
15.10 - how would I make sure not to loose trinity
desktop, please? |
SlavekB | you can change 'vivid' to 'wily' in your sources lists. |
SemiNus | before or after the upgrade? |
SlavekB | before |
SemiNus | and then I run "do-release-upgrade" ? |
SemiNus | I will try it :) |
SlavekB | if you use package triinity-apt-archive, you can download and install package from Wily: |
SlavekB | http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu/pool/main/t/trinity-apt-archive/trinity-apt-archive_14.0.2-0ubuntu15.10.0+0_all.deb |
SemiNus | what does that mean? |
SemiNus | triinity-apt-archive ? |
SemiNus | let me google it |
SemiNus | 1 moment pls |
SlavekB | sorry for typo - trinity with one 'i', not 'ii' |
SlavekB | trinity-apt-archive contains sources list for trinity apt archive. |
SemiNus | but what would I do with it? |
Space_Man | using kwrite 4.5.14 part of 14.0.2 I can indent and unindent fully |
SemiNus | I upgrade, then I change the sources.list |
SemiNus | what would I need this package for? |
SlavekB | You can manage sources list for Trinity manually, or using package trinity-apt-archive |
SemiNus | Space_Man, thank you for the information! |
Space_Man | indents are tabs |
SemiNus | ok I will do it manually |
SemiNus | Space_Man, even if they would look like this: |
SlavekB | then you can ignore package trinity-apt-archive :) |
SemiNus | foo |
SemiNus | bar |
SemiNus | foobar |
SemiNus | foobar |
SemiNus | bar |
SemiNus | foo |
SemiNus | Space_Man, would you then be able to unindent them ALL in one action? |
Space_Man | no, it will only unindent until one line runs out of tabs |
Space_Man | that has been the normal behaviour for kate for many years |
Space_Man | http://paste.debian.net/351745/ might help |
SemiNus | thx Space_Man ! |
SemiNus | I'd have 2 more questions |
SemiNus | when I run "ALT+F2" kwrite, the TDE version of kwrite starts |
SemiNus | but there is also a KDE4 installed on this computer, which also has a kwrite |
SemiNus | how does ALT+F2 tell kwrite and kwrite apart? |
SemiNus | I
think about running "kwrite" from kde4 in TDE because of 2
things: 1) highlighting in JS files does not work properly in
the TDE kwrite |
SemiNus | and 2) the unindent thingy |
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Space_Man | that could be because of the $PATH /opt/trinity may be before /usr/kde4 or wherever it's located |
SemiNus | that makes sense! |
SemiNus | thank you :) |
Space_Man | and it could be wrong |
SemiNus | is there any kind of statistic about trinity desktop, like how many users, how much feedback, etc? |
Space_Man | an interesting question |
Space_Man | I have no idea |
SemiNus | and
the follow-up question based on the question concerning the usage
statistics would be, if there is any kind of estimation from
today's perspective whether or not the development is going to be
continued |
Space_Man | ask SlavekB and kb9vqf :P |
Space_Man | the trinity servers need money to keep them running |
Space_Man | all the time we make donations, kb9vqf will keep the servers alive |
SemiNus | is kb9vqf Tim? |
Space_Man | he also gives a huge amount of his time and money to the project |
Space_Man | yes |
SemiNus | cool ^.^ |
SemiNus | I thought Tim would not be here in person :) |
Space_Man | he rarely speaks :P |
SemiNus | just found the page: http://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php |
SemiNus | thx for pointing me to the donations, that's a good point |
Space_Man | there are 3 or 4 main developers who also have day jobs |
Space_Man | so development is sporadic |
SemiNus | but it's interesting that there are already 16 people in this channel |
SemiNus | there was a time when there was only Slavek |
SemiNus | and maybe a second person |
SemiNus | but now it seems to be so much more alive already |
Space_Man | soon there should be a new release R14.0.3 which appears to be bug fixing release |
SemiNus | it's saddening that not more people see the advantages on trinity desktop |
Space_Man | wait for SlavekB to correct me |
SlavekB | Current is R14.0.2, R14.0.3 will be very soon |
* kb9vqf quietly says hello, and goodbye at the same time ;-) |
* kb9vqf is busy with other work ATM |
SemiNus | ;-) |
* SlavekB is now a busy by dinner ;) |
Space_Man | I like the current kwrite / kate trinity indent method |
* Space_Man uses python |
Space_Man | maybe hidden away in one of the option screens there is an box that changes the behaviour |
SemiNus | could not find such an option |
Space_Man | ow |
SemiNus | well, usually the unindent-method is find |
SemiNus | *fine |
SemiNus | but sometimes you simply want to unindent it all in order to build up the indention from new |
Space_Man | find and replace for tabs would be very nice |
Space_Man | ^\t* |
Space_Man | does ^/t* work on irc? |
SemiNus | but can you apply find+replace only for a highlighted block? |
Space_Man | no, you can from the cursor and then find/replace one item at a time |
Space_Man | or copy and paste into another document and then remove the indents etc and copy/paste back |
SemiNus | true that :) |
SemiNus | thank you for the tip! |
Space_Man | find / replace for tabs, line feeds etc would be nice |
SemiNus | \t should definitely work when changing the search to regex |
SemiNus | however |
SemiNus | I am happy about what we got (TDE) |
SemiNus | however you turn it, it's 100 times better than KDE4 |
SemiNus | SlavekB, are you still around? |
SemiNus | I headed into huge dependency problems when upgrading ubuntu |
SlavekB | are all apt sources updated to wily? |
SemiNus | SlavekB, yes |
SemiNus | the ubuntu-channel recommended purging the whole PPA |
SemiNus | but I am not sure how to do that |
SlavekB | SemiNus: sorry, but I need to go away for several hours |
SemiNus | have fun :) |
SemiNus | and thank you for all your answers :) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2562 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2562 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Many applications can not open their own saved files |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2563 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2563 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE Menu: root password vs sudo needs review |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2562 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2562 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [Regression] Many applications can not open their own saved files |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2257 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , KWord/KSpread can't open valid .odt/.ods files |
pitriss | SlavekB:
hi please can you look at #2537 it will allow me to hack around bug in
yakuake with dissorted background image..:) It is quite annoying to
maually select schema in yakuake everytime i boot my pc/open new tab in
yakuake:) |
SlavekB | tbottu: please info about bug 2537 ;) |
tbottu | SlavekB: Error: "please" is not a valid command. |
SlavekB | please info about bug 2537 ;) |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2537 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , yakuakes dcop session-1 setSchema / schema calls not working |
SlavekB | thank you ;) |
pitriss | I
tried also yakuake from kde4 but it doesn't allow me to have one
picture centered in it.. It only allows tiled background so kde4 yakuake
is no go for me |
pitriss | I see you don't use yakuake.. but I'm using it daily as It doesn't clutter my panel with many konsoles opened:D |
SlavekB | I
got it differently - I need to alway see the console (or at least a
part). And also have the possibility to switch into console by the
conventional switching between applications. Therefore yakuake not suit
me. |
SlavekB | pitriss: I added yakuake bug in my list. |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2564 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2564 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement] Improve mimetype support |
pitriss | SlavekB: ok thank you:) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2565 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2565 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KBookReader does not recognize PDF files |
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tbottu | 10krisgamrat@hushmail.com changed the Status on bug 2257 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KWord/KSpread can't open valid .odt/.ods files |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2566 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2566 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] TDM display issues on boot |
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Borg^Queen | Happy Christmas to all |
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msb_ | DANGER
WILL ROBINSON! There is another "trinity", an EVIL
"trinity". It spews lots of files onto your disk and who
knows what else! It's here: http://codemonkey.org.uk/projects/trinity/ |
msb_ | It
runs lots of random system-calls. The description
says: "I recommend not running it on machines containing data
you care about. It's entirely plausible that trinity could start
calling unlink() on files it randomly finds. You might also want to make
sure that there are no nfs or similar filesystems mounted for the same
reason." |
msb_ | A friend of mine was trying to install TDE today and got onto that thing instead! |
msb_ | There needs to be warnings about this! |
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mirda | hello |
mirda | msb_: your friend doesn't read what he looks at |
mirda | there is huge differebnce between "A Linux System call fuzz tester." and "Trinity Desktop Environment" |
mirda | *difference |
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msb_ | mirda:
You're right -- my friend was in a hurry and got
careless. On the other hand, I've been working with computers
for 55 years and never heard of a "fuzz tester", nor any software
called "Trinity" other than TDE. |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2567 filed by linux@rainbow-software.org. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2567 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , No floopy drives in Storage Media |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2568 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2568 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Compton-tde shows a shadow under SuperKaramba widgets |
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holyguyver | I
am having the ages old problem of trinity apps not starting or
appearing in menus because they are in opt/trinity but I have forgotten
how to fix that, can someone help me out? |
SlavekB | holyguyver:
you can try add /opt/trinity/bin to PATH, /opt/trinity/etc/xdg to
DG_CONFIG_DIRS and /opt/trinity/share to XDG_DATA_DIRS |
holyguyver | SlavekB: Thank you |
holyguyver | SlavekB: Could you help me remember how to do that? There used to be instructions online, but I cannot find them. |
holyguyver | Anyone? |
SlavekB | holyguyver: For example, you can add exports to ~/.profile |
holyguyver | SlavekB: Thank you :) |
holyguyver | SlavekB: so like this? http://pastebin.com/qWbX8Kh6 |
SlavekB | holyguyver: yes, like this. But you need only PATH and XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS. |
holyguyver | SlavekB: Thank you |
holyguyver | SlavekB: So like this? http://pastebin.com/wrrBtwBE |
SlavekB | export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg:/etc/xdg |
SlavekB | export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share |
holyguyver | SlavekB: The path one is fine? |
SlavekB | export PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH |
SlavekB | you need not only Trinity in path, but also all system paths. |
SlavekB | And place your new exports outside condition "if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then" |
holyguyver | SlavekB: So like this? http://pastebin.com/FuQ1LxZS |
SlavekB | last 'fi' is excess |
holyguyver | SlavekB: Do I have to restart for this to take affect? |
SlavekB | logout / login |
holyguyver | SlavekB: Okay, thanks |
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cubexyz | hi folks, I wanted to ask about ksysguard |
cubexyz | this is quite a while ago but since KDE 3.5.10 it did strange things |
cubexyz | /opt/trinity/bin/ksysguard has the same strange behaviour... |
cubexyz | it fills up the panel with many instances of itself and I have to ctrl-alt-backspace to reset X |
cubexyz | but there is also ksysguard for KDE >4 (this is all in q4os) |
cubexyz | it's not a big deal, but I assume the KDE 3 version of ksysguard is passe now? |
cubexyz | I had to go back to KDE 3.4.2 (oldest version I'm still running) on another machine to see ksysguard working correctly |
cubexyz | this is on kde trinity 3.5.13.2 and also kde 3.5.10 |
SlavekB | cubexyz: ksysguard is still part of Trinity. |
SlavekB | cubexyz: You can fill a bug report for this issue? |
SlavekB | cubexyz: I understand correctly that you mean ksysguard applet? |
cubexyz | SlavekB, yes |
cubexyz | KDE 3.5.10 did the same thing, I just didn't realize it until recently |
SlavekB | On
my experimental machine (currently 3.5.13.2) I tried to insert an
applet and it working correctly - I can see graph for cpu and memory. |
cubexyz | ok, it must have something to do with localhost or the way I have it set |
cubexyz | it keeps saying can't access localhost |
cubexyz | KDE 4 version of ksysguard works |
cubexyz | so on q4os I run /opt/trinity/bin/ksysguard and it freaks out |
cubexyz | so there are two different ksysguards |
cubexyz | ok, it actually seems to work now :-/ |
cubexyz | strange |
SlavekB | On my test machine is only TDE. |
cubexyz | ok |
SlavekB | currently on Debian Wheezy. |
cubexyz | I might have altered /etc/hosts I can't remember |
cubexyz | but it is working atm :) |
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cubexyz | ok SlavekB I fixed the original KDE 3.5.10 problem which was an old prob |
cubexyz | but I was wrong about the trinity one, it does work |
cubexyz | ksysguardd was broken on one computer |
leonardo_ | hi
everyone, i'm using trinity on q4os distro, and the dialog boxes do not
work with chromium/chrome ( like "save as" ). Anyone know solve it?
thanks! (sorry for bad english) |
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cubexyz | is ksysv still part of trinity? |
cubexyz | oh ok, it seems to be there |
cubexyz | but no package for q4os, hmmm |
SlavekB | cubexyz: package ksysv-trinity ? |
cubexyz | ah that is it :) |
cubexyz | was trying trinity-ksysv |
cubexyz | I'm glad that the old KDE 3.5.10 stuff survives in a new form |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2114 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2114 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Adept crash and high CPU use |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2569 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2569 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Adept not working with recent distros |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2570 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2570 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , KPackage: problems with root priviledges |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2571 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2571 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tderandr: possible bug when configuring two monitor size |
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a-865 | what package contains *infocenter? |
a-865 | neither synaptic nor aptitude can find any such |
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Space_Man | a-865: have you tried looking for infocentRE |
Space_Man | what does it do? |
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tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2467 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2467 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: Koffice FTBFS on Fedora 22 / Ruby 2.2.2 |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2467 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2467 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: Koffice FTBFS on Fedora 22 / Ruby 2.2.2 |
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tbottu | 10mrmazda@earthlink.net changed the Status on bug 2557 from NEW --- to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2557
normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, [openSUSE]
/opt/trinity/bin/starttde missing from $PATH, and will not run from
/usr/share/xsessions/trinity.desktop via TDM |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2572 filed by ac586133@hotmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2572 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Both Konqueror and Dolphin: Browsing a folder where a file is being copied is almost impossible |
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Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2573 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2573 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Kicker frequent crashes on R14.0.3-pre |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2573 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2573 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , [Regression] Kicker frequent crashes on R14.0.3-pre |
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kb9vqf | SlavekB: Just wanted to check in and see what the status of R14.0.3 was? |
kb9vqf | Also
I've been getting some pushback on the TDE slow startup time and wasn't
sure if this a real issue or if it's just a case of KDE missing
features again (essentially cheating on startup time) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2574 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2574 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kicker clock does not update time when changing time zone |
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SlavekB | kb9vqf: In the mail you will find a few notes regarding the release R14.0.3. |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2575 filed by slavek.banko@axis.cz. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2575 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , R14.0.4 official bug list (meta bug) |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2563 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2563 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDE Menu: root password vs sudo needs review |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2217 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2217 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [stdout/stderr] Warning: using regular magic file |
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techningeer | Is anyone else having issues using the Trinity Repos right now? |
SlavekB | What problems? Do you use respositories on mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org? |
techningeer | SlavekB: I'm using ppa.pearsoncomputing.net |
SlavekB | primary server is on the line with a limited bandwidth |
SlavekB | better choice is use mirror.ppa. |
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techningeer | SlavekB, so just replace ppa.pearsoncomputing.net with mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org? |
SlavekB | yes |
SlavekB | As
just announced by François, are published R14.0.2 for Fedora 21 ==
primary server will be busy for synchronizing 3.8 GiB packages. |
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techningeer | SlavekB: That worked. Thanks! |
SlavekB | you're welcome |
techningeer | Time to upgrade to R14.0.2, yay! |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2529 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2529 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED , KPPP fails everytime on PCLinuxOS with TDE R14.0.1 |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2473 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk |
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techningeer | Hello,
had a quick question, is there any place to get additional themes for
Trinity? Also, is there any documentation on creating your own theme
anywhere? |
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a-865 | anyone remember what nfs required before rpcbind was born? |
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Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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Borg^Queen | hi anyone get skype working with apulse |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2576 filed by dave1967@gmx.co.uk. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2576 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , removeable disc mountpoint ignored |
mirda | hello |
Borg^Queen | hi |
mirda | Borg^Queen: APULSE_PLAYBACK_DEVICE=hw:1,0 apulse /usr/bin/skype |
mirda | friend has this as ~/bin/skype |
Borg^Queen | ah ok let me try |
mirda | he has this configured to use his second sound card (he has two sound cards) |
mirda | his mic is in his first sound card and was detected automatically |
Borg^Queen | ah ok let me adapt it |
Borg^Queen | bingo |
mirda | you need to investigate correct numbers in hw:x,y |
Borg^Queen | aye |
mirda | congratz:) |
Borg^Queen | ok maybe not |
Borg^Queen | [apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm, snd_pcm_open, Input/output error |
Borg^Queen | [apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm, snd_pcm_open, Input/output error |
Borg^Queen | ALSA lib pcm_pulse.c:743:(pulse_prepare) PulseAudio: Unable to create stream: Oops. |
Borg^Queen | ![apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm, snd_pcm_open, Input/output error |
tbottu | Borg^Queen: Error: "apulse" is not a valid command. |
Borg^Queen | lol |
mirda | !help |
tbottu | mirda:
(help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a
useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only
necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
Borg^Queen | ok it makes noise when it first starts up |
mirda | noise? can you hear something in test call? |
Borg^Queen | nope, |
Borg^Queen | let me try again |
Borg^Queen | nope, the call doesn't go through |
mirda | ahh |
mirda | did you use correct hw device? |
Borg^Queen | hw:0,0 |
Borg^Queen | as far as I can tell that's the right one |
Borg^Queen | there are 3, there's cx20561 analog |
Borg^Queen | cx20561 digital |
Borg^Queen | cx20561 hdmi |
mirda | i don't use skype with apulse yet, so i don't have experiences with it |
Borg^Queen | aye but oddly you have brought me closer |
Borg^Queen | it's actually making sound |
Borg^Queen | ok the first one is the only one that has any output |
mirda | try aplay -l |
Borg^Queen | ok |
mirda | you can use also aplay -L |
Borg^Queen | ok done |
Borg^Queen | I have the list |
Borg^Queen | I found a bash that might help |
Borg^Queen | bbiab |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2529 from CONFIRMED to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2529 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, PATCHAVAIL , KPPP fails everytime on PCLinuxOS with TDE R14.0.1 |
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pitriss | SlavekB: hi, i think i found solution to http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2481 :) I added it into comments:) |
tbottu | 04Bug 2481: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , krusader recreate useractions.xml from useraction_examples.xml |
pitriss | If it load (and maybe even copy) examples when krusaderrc is not present for current user..:) |
pitriss | it should be OK I think |
SlavekB | Ok, I'll look at it. But tomorrow - now I'm busy. |
pitriss | ok np.. thank you very much:) |
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Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2569 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2569 major, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Adept not working with recent distros |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2529 from PATCHAVAIL to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2529 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEEDINFO , KPPP fails everytime on PCLinuxOS with TDE R14.0.1 |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2577 filed by rademes@inbox.ru. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2577 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ksensors-trinity autostart does not working |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2578 filed by rademes@inbox.ru. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2578 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Missing 'media-cdrom' icon in 'crystalsvg' icon set. |
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tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2505 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, The wiki is broken for EL installation instructions. |
tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2551 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2551 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDE fails to install on Centos 7 because of broken dependencies |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2578 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2578 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Missing 'media-cdrom' icon in 'crystalsvg' icon set. |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2576 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2576 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEEDINFO , removeable disc mountpoint ignored |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2579 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2579 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] Disappearing things |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2580 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2580 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Regression] TDM Freeze after logout |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2581 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2581 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Yakuake and Konsole suddenly unable to start shell |
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popnfloss | hi |
popnfloss | im getting these black bars in the title bars of windows |
popnfloss | on every theme i use |
popnfloss | im using the latest release |
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jentron | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043686 this bug is present in the current TDE ... |
tbottu | 04Bug 1043686: was not found. |
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Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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tbottu | 10hauke@pc-kiel.de changed the Status on bug 2473 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, REOPENED , Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2473 from REOPENED to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2584 filed by X2Go-ML-1@baur-itcs.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2584 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ksmserver crashing when /sys empty or not existing |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2584 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2584 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, ksmserver crashing when /sys empty or not existing |
jentron | http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1375 is the same bug as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043686 |
tbottu | 04Bug
1375: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, ASSIGNED , Not processed BACKGROUND,
FOREGROUND, etc. colors in Xrdb and cause git gui to fail. |
tbottu | 04Bug 1043686: was not found. |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2585 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2585 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE Bugzilla bug tracker missing TDE versions |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2473 from ASSIGNED to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, NEEDINFO , Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2578 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2578 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, Missing 'media-cdrom' icon in 'crystalsvg' icon set. |
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francesco_ | Hello
everyone i would like to translate some entry in the "start menu" in
italian, where i can find the po file? And also the turn off computer
options (but i don't understand what the freeze button does. TYA. |
SlavekB | francesco_: this should be a good start point http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-i18n/tree/tde-i18n-it/messages/tdebase |
SlavekB | francesco_: and information about 'freeze' power state: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/power/states.txt |
francesco_ | Thank you for the info, downloading now the i18n and i'll look at the text file. |
francesco_ | Thank you again i've found out that ksmserver.po contains the shutdown entries, in the next days i'll translate it. Bye. |
SlavekB | francesco_: Thanks for hopeful news! |
SlavekB | Translators are always welcome. |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2586 filed by winebugs140@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2586 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Stacking tool-tips in the shutdown dialog |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2587 filed by winebugs140@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2587 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , White pixel near the shutdown dialog |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2588 filed by winebugs140@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2588 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , On some computers the shutdown dialog appears with the delay |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2588 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2588 minor, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , On some computers the shutdown dialog appears with the delay |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2473 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Media manager detects /dev/mmcblk0 as internal harddisk |
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turbo64 | hi |
turbo64 | im looking at the power options and i cant figure out how to make it not go to standby with the laptop lid is closed |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2586 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2586 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Stacking tool-tips in the shutdown dialog |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2563 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2563 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDE Menu: root password vs sudo needs review |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2586 from NEEDINFO to CONFIRMED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2586 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, CONFIRMED , Stacking tool-tips in the shutdown dialog |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2356 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, kalarm possibly confused whether to use .trinity or .kde |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2315 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2315 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , kpdf "forgets" a page as soon as no longer displayed, has to re-render to display it again |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2477 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2477 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tde session won't run if kgtk-qt3-trinity is installed in jessie |
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turbo64 | hi |
turbo64 | any advice on getting gtk apps to play nice with tde |
turbo64 | i tried gtk-qt-engine-trinity but some apps get totally fucked up when i use that |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2553 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2553 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Adding this new startup splash screen for TDE: Architecture |
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francesco_ | Hello, i have translated a po file into italian. Where i can send it for inclusion? TYA. |
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francesco_ | Hello,
i have translated a po file into italian. Where i can send it for
inclusion? It's also on google drive here ( ksmserver_ao for italian): https://goo.gl/v2QrSf TYA. |
SlavekB | francesco_: you can send it to me - slavek.banko@axis.cz |
francesco_ | Ok i'll send it asap. Thank you |
SlavekB | I thank you! |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Component on bug 2553 from tdeartwork to other (any). |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2553 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2553 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Adding this new startup splash screen for TDE: Architecture |
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zb_ | is there a way to make konversation always show the server window even when not connected |
zb_ | so i can connect with /server instead of using the menus |
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MicheleC | In this code |
MicheleC | TDEStorageDevice*
parentdisk =
static_cast<TDEStorageDevice*>(findBySystemPath(parentsyspath));+ disktype
= parentdisk->diskType();+ diskstatus =
diskstatus | parentdisk->diskStatus(); |
MicheleC | if parentdisk is NULL, next line will segfault |
SlavekB | is already solved :) |
MicheleC | ah ok, no problem then |
SlavekB | http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/commit/?id=36481f68 |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2589 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2589 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Reorganize "applications" folder into subcategories. |
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NaGERST | Hi |
NaGERST | Is
the trinity-desktop still contained /opt ? or is there plans to do like
MATE and rename the components so it can be installed in the proper FHS
directory? And also, is there a qtcurve plugin for trinity? |
SlavekB | NaGERST: Hi |
SlavekB | yes, Trinity is still in /opt |
SlavekB | yes, Qtcurve-trinity exists |
NaGERST | Thank you. |
NaGERST | Is the ubuntu-trinity or q4os the prefered development target for trinity? |
SlavekB | To rename in this moment is not a plan. Trinity is much greater than MATE, so it represents a larger effort. |
NaGERST | Yes that makes sense. |
SlavekB | Primary development is done on Debian and Ubuntu. |
SlavekB | Good support also have an RPM-based distributions. |
SlavekB | As far as I know, Q4os is based on Debian or Ubuntu. |
NaGERST | I really enjoy APT, so that is fine by me as well. |
SlavekB | Yes, I also prefer apt and Debian :) |
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NaGERST | Wow q4os sure installs a lot of stuff when chosing the medium profile. Everything from gtk3 to gnusterp stuff |
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NaGERST | When i try to install ubuntu-trinity in virtualbox the system pauses and is impossible to unpause. Can i get around this? |
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turbo64 | i just installed trinity and my system sounds dont work |
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turbo64 | when i go to the system sound settings and click the test button it plays the startup sound, but they dont play anywhere else |
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Space_Man | turbo64: can you play music with amarok or hear sound from video with kaffeine etc? |
turbo64 | yeah the sound works everywhere except the system sounds |
turbo64 | even though system sounds are enabled, the service is running, etc |
turbo64 | its set to alsa like everything else is |
turbo64 | i cant figure out whats wrong |
turbo64 | also is there a way to sort items in the menu by name |
turbo64 | its sorting them by description instead of name |
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popnfloss | how can i remove all trinity packages with apt-get? |
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pitriss | popnfloss: err apt-get remove *-trinity ? quick idea.. i'm not apt master:) |
tbottu | 10bobfreeman@nycmail.com changed the Status on bug 2356 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , kalarm possibly confused whether to use .trinity or .kde |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2590 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2590 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ksnapshot print doesn't allow setting orientation |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2591 filed by bobfreeman@nycmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2591 wishlist, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , twin 'Edit Window-Specific Settings' should have option to modify the title of the window |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2536 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 needs packaging, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, NEEDINFO , New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla |
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tbottu | 10bobfreeman@nycmail.com changed the Status on bug 2356 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, kalarm possibly confused whether to use .trinity or .kde |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2592 filed by tiposchi@tiscali.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2592 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , GPG key mismatch |
mirda | hello, please do you experienced that k3b crashes when you want to burn audio cd from a flac files? |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2592 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2592 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , GPG key mismatch |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2536 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2536 needs packaging, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, NEW , New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla |
mirda | so k3b doesn't burn audio cd either with flac source files or wav source files, it crashes |
mirda | and it doesn't detect sox installed on a debian wheezy |
SlavekB | mirda: please, fill bug report about that |
mirda | will do |
pitriss | and as bonus, when i click search it fills silly paths to programs.. |
pitriss | eg /opt/schilly/bin.. I never had such directory in my system |
SlavekB | strange |
pitriss | these paths are dtill the same.. I delete wrong/unwanted ones, apply, ok, they appear there again |
SlavekB | It looks like hardcoded default paths. |
pitriss | thats
a bit weird approach.. this make such setting pointless.. if it resets
to default.. It should override these hardcoded ones IMO.. |
tbottu | 10tiposchi@tiscali.it changed the Status on bug 2592 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED INVALID. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2592 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED INVALID, GPG key mismatch |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2516 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2516 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , krusader should have support for xz archives as they are quite common now. |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2516 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2516
enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, krusader should
have support for xz archives as they are quite common now. |
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a-865 | File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium 'http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse42.1/trinity-R14/RPMS/x86_64' :~( |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2593 filed by q4os@q4os.org. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2594 filed by mrmazda@earthlink.net. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2594 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [SUSE] File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2593 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2594 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2594 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , [SUSE] File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium |
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a-865 | what belongs in /etc/X11/default-display-manager on Debian to make tdm the default? |
MicheleC | on my system: /opt/trinity/bin/tdm |
a-865 | MicheleC:
on Jessied system I'm trying to get TDE onto, aptitude install
tde-trinity claimed to run, but didn't even bother to create /opt, so I
can't tell what it actually did do. Trying again doesn't help. :-( |
a-865 | gobs of required packages are shown as not installed, but no clues offered why |
MicheleC | if no /opt folder, definitely TDE was not installed. Try following the instruction from here |
MicheleC | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall#For_Jessie_.28Debian_8.x.29 |
MicheleC | sorry, here: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall |
MicheleC | make sure you read until the end |
a-865 | that's the same page I've been using |
a-865 | it started with nothing but lxde |
a-865 | gobs of unmet deps |
MicheleC | on a clean system it works, I just did a clean Jessie VM a couple of weeks ago following to the letter. |
MicheleC | check that you have the right repo in /etc/apt/sources.list |
MicheleC | and make sure to do 'apt-get update' before installing |
MicheleC | also check you have used the 'jessie' version of the repo and not another one by mistake ;-) |
a-865 | jessie's the only release in sources.list, I've done apt-get update a bunch of times, and deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian is what's in sources list. |
a-865 | inexplicable |
MicheleC | then it is clear! you did not include the dependency repository |
MicheleC | deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main |
MicheleC | just copy and paste the required repo from that page, it will do ;-) |
MicheleC | without the builddeps repo, some packages are missing and tde will definitely not install! |
MicheleC | deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie maindeb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie maindeb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie maindeb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main |
a-865 | I
thought that was optional? there are 4 lines, but I commented src
lines, and thought builddeps was for developers/builders, which I never
do |
MicheleC | you can skip the source ones if you do not need them |
MicheleC | no, the builddeps is mandatory. Perhaps the name 'builddeps" is not ideal... |
a-865 | big understatement |
MicheleC | infact I call those packages "extra dependency" on my system |
MicheleC | :-) |
SlavekB | deps-r14 in my apt repository :) |
a-865 | mirror is making me wait...... |
a-865 | waiting for headers is taking forever |
MicheleC | you may want to consider using the preliminary stable builds from Slavek: more updated and faster. |
MicheleC | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds |
MicheleC | just put jessie where is required |
a-865 | does trinity really want both udisks and udisks2? |
a-865 | aptitude claims both are recommended |
SlavekB | udisks2 or udisks or pmount |
a-865 | oh, right, aptitude claims both plus pmout are recommended :-p |
SlavekB | aptitude should mention these as alternatives == is enough just one of them. |
a-865 | it lists them among a zillion other things |
a-865 | spell checkers in thousands of langs for instance |
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a-865 | wiki needs mention only the deb-src lines are optional, but I can't decide good place to make such a note. any suggestions? |
SlavekB | a-865:
I believe that the appropriate place is behind title Add these lines to
your /etc/apt/sources.list file - before chapters for each
distribution. |
a-865 | SlavekB: does "behind" mean above, or below "add these..."? |
SlavekB | bellow "add these" and before "For Stretch (Debian 9.x)" |
a-865 | SlavekB: wiki done, and TDE on Jessie running. Thx. :-) |
SlavekB | well, thank you. |
a-865 | is there some meta package to install only just enough TDE to have a running session? |
SlavekB | tdebase-trinity |
a-865 | SlavekB: thx |
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MicheleC | @a-865: just wondering: all ok now? |
a-865 | MicheleC: right after you logged off: "SlavekB: wiki done, and TDE on Jessie running. Thx. :-) " |
MicheleC | good to know :-) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2595 filed by tiposchi@tiscali.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2595 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , missing pinentry |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2595 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2595 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , missing pinentry |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2595 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2595 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , missing pinentry |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2596 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2596 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE unusable/unstable for minutes if panel is moved upright to the right screen edge |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2597 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2597 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , mouse-scrolling support for 'less', 'vi', ... |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2593 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2593 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2598 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2598 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Panel transparency glitches |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2599 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEpowersave settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2599 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDEpowersave settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2593 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives |
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guest__ | hi |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2600 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2600 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Visual facelifting proposals |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2599 from NEEDINFO to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599
enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , TDEpowersave
settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2593 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Errornous presentation of capital letters on USB drives |
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tbottu | 10thomas.maus@gmx.de changed the Status on bug 2599 from PATCHAVAIL to REOPENED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599
enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, REOPENED , TDEpowersave
settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2601 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2601 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEpowersave + Logout menu should offer Suspend2Hybrid |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2602 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2602 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Terminology and documentation of TDEpowersave and suspend modes |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2599 from REOPENED to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599
enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, NEEDINFO , TDEpowersave
settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2603 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2603 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Lockscreen blocks Suspend (detrimental TDEpowersave / Screensaver interaction) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2604 filed by xsvobo44@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2604
normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Calendar events with defined location
synced from Palm device with kpilot to Korganizer doesn't have location
there |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2556 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2556
normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, [SECURITY] CVE-2015-7543:
arts,tdelibs: Use of mktemp(3) allows attacker to hijack the IPC |
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kb9vqf | R14.0.3 is out! |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2540 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2540 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, R14.0.3 official bug list (meta bug) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2605 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2605 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , gwenview crashes on continued perusal of artwork directories |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2606 filed by thefirstscience@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2606 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , kchart-trinity cannot open template |
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mirda | hello,
can you please help? i moved my HDD from a laptop Dell D830 to a laptop
Dell E6500 with debian wheezy 64 bit and TDE 3.5.13.2 |
mirda | now when i log in TDE session and desktop appears, session instantly logs me out |
mirda | where could be a problem? |
kb9vqf | mirda: Post your ~/.xsession_errors.log |
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mirda | http://pastebin.com/09zLUCDi |
mirda | it is from freshly created user to test TDE, it logouts instantly too |
mirda | ahh i see, that Blueman can cause that |
mirda | maybe |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2607 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2607
major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Storage Media Applet/kio: Removable
Device Actions, including "mount" wrongly offered for raw disk |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2608 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2608
normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Multi-Head configuration (Xrandr) --
potential bugs, severe limitations and proposals for improvements |
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WorkingTurkey | saw a new release announced today. very good work |
mirda | i removed blueman, bluetooth and bluez packages and problem still persists http://pastebin.com/2VZ0bDQW |
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kb9vqf | mirda: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
kb9vqf | that's your problem |
kb9vqf | do you have a broken symlink? |
kb9vqf | all of those BadWindow errors also indicate a potential problem with your X11 installation |
kb9vqf | (possibly related to the libGL issue) |
mirda | kb9vqf: ahh thank you |
mirda | i will try to fix this |
kb9vqf | np ;-) |
mirda | kb9vqf:
my old laptop D830 suddenly died after heavy load in a room where was
higher air temperature :( , it has a Nvidia quadro nvs 135M GPU |
mirda | and working laptop E6500 has some integrated intel GPU, so i needed to uninstall nvidia drivers |
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mirda | kb9vqf: it works with symlinked libGL.so.1 from /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/ |
kb9vqf | mirda: Make sense; you probably have an nVidia driver package installed |
SlavekB | mirda: exactly - it seems to be some confusion caused by binary driver. |
mutantturkey | mirda: might also try switching from noveau to the closed source driver or visa versa if you're having trouble. |
mirda | nvidia driver was removed using apt-get, but maybe there are some leftovers |
mirda | mutantturkey: that laptop has intel gpu |
SlavekB | mirda: purged or removed? |
mirda | SlavekB: removed |
mutantturkey | oh sorry, my mistake. I thought you said it had a nvidia quadro |
mutantturkey | in this case the integrated drivers are quite good then |
mirda | mutantturkey: old laptop has quadro |
mutantturkey | understood i re-read |
SlavekB | mirda: In that case, you can try if purge performs cleanup. |
SlavekB | after purge you can try: aptitude reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx |
mirda | SlavekB: there was installed i386 versions of packages glx-diversions and nvidia-installer-cleanup |
mirda | i purged them now |
SlavekB | glx-diversions gives hope that this package could make an order. |
mirda | fixed, thank you |
SlavekB | mirda: rádo se stalo :) |
mirda | SlavekB: please can you look at that yakuake bug reported by pitriss and package qalculate into TDE? |
mirda | and how about missing kpilot in R14, is it fixed? |
SlavekB | mirda: This week I am unfortunately too busy. |
mirda | okay |
SlavekB | I was therefore pleased that we have managed to release R14.0.3 last weekend. |
SlavekB | kpilot package is fixed in R14.0.3: |
SlavekB | http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/commit/?h=r14.0.x&id=e9807da7 |
mirda | i understand |
mirda | and congratulations to R14.0.3 |
mirda | ahh i missed that commit, thanks |
mutantturkey | SlavekB: the release is great, thank you!Q |
pitriss | Thank
you for fixed kpilot package.. Now I need to figure out that voodoo
about udev rules for palm treo to make it work with my phone.. |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2606 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2606 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , kchart-trinity cannot open template |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2607 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2607
major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , Storage Media Applet/kio: Removable
Device Actions, including "mount" wrongly offered for raw disk |
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pitriss | Hi guys, please i want to know if there is GUI for viewing/editing system variables in R14 |
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pitriss | as
I'm trying to solve some annoyance in iceweasel (opening pdf in gimp
instead of kpdf) by overriding its desktop file.. but sudo
update-desktop-database -v gives me: Search path is now:
[/usr/local/share/applications, /usr/share/applications] |
pitriss | And I think it should also include /opt/trinity/share |
pitriss | my $XDG_DATA_DIRS is correct.. it is set to: /opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share |
pitriss | so I'm really confused |
Space_Man | pitriss: this might help http://paste.debian.net/412222/ |
pitriss | Space_Man:
thanks.. deleting gimp.desktop can be temporary solution, yes.. and
change setting in icewease was first what I tried.. It have two entries
for pdf and both are set directly to /opt/trinity/bin/kpdf |
pitriss | Space_Man:
do you think i don't break anything when I set $XDG_DATA_DIRS for root?
:D thats may be the cause that update-desktop-database use only default
values |
pitriss | as root have empty $XDG_DATA_DIRS |
Space_Man | pitriss: "do you think i don't break anything when I set $XDG_DATA_DIRS for root? :D th" I have no idea :P |
pitriss | ok I will try that..:D |
pitriss | Search
path is now: [/opt/trinity/share/applications,
/usr/local/share/applications, /usr/share/applications] //hmm hmm:D
let's see..:D |
pitriss | It works:P |
pitriss | Now iceweasel can open pdf in kpdf.. I'm not freedesktop.org expert, but maybe devs can set this systemwide? |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2603 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2603 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , Lockscreen blocks Suspend (detrimental TDEpowersave / Screensaver interaction) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2609 filed by assolutooccidentale@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2609 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , cannot start PyLNP |
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ShadowAndrew | hi |
SlavekB | ShadowAndrew: hi, we can be something helpful? |
ShadowAndrew | nope, i thought i'd join the chat |
ShadowAndrew | i recently downloaded the desktop environment |
ShadowAndrew | it's pretty nice |
SlavekB | I use Trinity every day :) |
ShadowAndrew | i generally don't prefer DEs like gnome anymore because they have strange non-standard interface concepts |
ShadowAndrew | like huge launcher buttons |
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tbottu | 10assolutooccidentale@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 2609 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2609 trivial, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, cannot start PyLNP |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Resolution on bug 2609 from FIXED to NOTOURPROBLEM. |
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tbottu | 10thomas.maus@gmx.de changed the Status on bug 2599 from NEEDINFO --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2599
enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEpowersave
settings: arbitrary and contraproductive limit for "autosuspend" timer |
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jentron | My printscreen button is no longer pulling up ksnapshot, does anyone know how to bring it back? |
jentron | Figured out how to re-add the shortcut key to the menu. Not sure how it got removed |
SlavekB | jentron: khotkeys is active? |
jentron | SlavekB,
it is now, but the process seems to have started at the time I assigned
the menu shortcut key, not sure if it restarted or had died |
jentron | Yeah, I think it died. Changing the settings doesn't change the time stamp on the khotkeys process |
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SlavekB | nemo |
SlavekB | ehm, wrong window... |
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adminq | some idea or hint how to enable a feature like "tiling snap to edge"? |
SlavekB | adminq:
Unfortunately, I do not know what to imagine under this. In the Control
Center can be set snap to the edges and snap to other windows. |
adminq | i
dont know what you mean with Control Center, there are only icons for
devices appearance... but i cannot find "snap to the edges and snap to
other windows" |
SlavekB | Settings / Trinity Control Center / Desktop / Window Behaviour |
adminq | thank
you but I cannot find it in q4os distribution. does the dialog have an
executable? but maybe it is not in the release of q4os |
SlavekB | kcontrol |
adminq | tdecmshell [tdeinit] desktopbehavior ? |
adminq | tdecmshell [tdeinit] twinoptions ? |
SlavekB | twinoptions |
adminq | i think you mean the last, but i dont find an option how the quick snap to edge with window tiling is working |
adminq | i want to drag a window with the mouse to some side left/right and it will be take the half of the screen space then |
adminq | if i move it to the top it will maximize |
adminq | personally i can do the same with some shotcuts but i search a solution for someone else who want to use the mouse for that |
adminq | maybe it is a feature which is not implemented yet, but why? |
SlavekB | "Snap" configuration means that when you move window close to the edge is adhered, but remains in the unchanged size. |
SlavekB | You know that the standard maximize button has a different behavior when you use different mouse buttons? |
adminq | yes
i know that but that is not the behavior (windows)-users are expecting
and even then it is not so much usefull as placing to windows each other |
adminq | for example for comparison of content |
adminq | that is done really quick by draging one window to the left the other to the right |
adminq | it is somewhat intuitiv, but the middle, left, right click on a icon is like hidden knowledge not intuitv |
SlavekB | Yes,
I understand. By the way, this behavior normally bothers me very,
because usually I have opened multiple windows and any maximization is
for me unwanted. |
adminq | and the maximize function involves at least to actions to solve the tiling |
SlavekB | But I understand that some users may be accustomed to such behavior and want the same behavior... |
adminq | yeah i think many linux window managers adapted this use case in recent versions |
SlavekB | However, I fear that such configuration is not yet available in TWin. |
adminq | therefore i was suprised that this will not work on trinitydesktop |
adminq | i
am an keyboard addict, i really love to not touch the mouse. but how
can twin reach the window menu? usually i pressed
<ALT>+<SPACE> |
SlavekB | Alt+F3? |
adminq | no
that is doing nothing here, you know each window handle has a little
icon in the upper left corner if you click it some context menu for this
window pops up |
adminq | on windows and some other window manager lxde/xfc ... i can press <ALT>+<SPACE> and it will appear |
adminq | than i can use the curor keys to choose entries without shortcut |
SlavekB | for me this menu is by default configuration opened by Alt + F3 :) |
adminq | you installed kwin/trinity with package manager on a native debian? |
adminq | or do you use any specific distro? |
SlavekB | Yes, I use Debian. |
adminq | i tried a german distribution q4os www.q4os.org |
SlavekB | Yes, I've already seen some information about this distribution. |
adminq | default settings are in some /usr/share folder? perhaps i would compare them |
SlavekB | On first login KPersonalizer gives choice of behavior types => Unix, Windows,... |
SlavekB | And according to that will set theme, shortcut,... |
SlavekB | By
the way, currently I have opened seven windows == any maximization just
because I moved some window close to the edge, would make me very
angry. |
adminq | hehe perhaps use: dcop twin KWinInterface unclutterDesktop |
adminq | :-) i found some nice DCOP Browser |
adminq | dcop twin KWinInterface cascadeDesktop |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2603 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2603
normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Lockscreen blocks
Suspend (detrimental TDEpowersave / Screensaver interaction) |
adminq | ok thank you for your help, bye |
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jentron | Does
anyone here know anything about configuring Krusader's preview
functionality? It comes way to smart out of the box to be useful |
jentron | I'd like it to show me everything as plain text regardless of what kind of file it actually is. |
jentron | Even worse, it won't show files with no extension |
jentron | But eating all the tags in an xml file is pretty bad, too. |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2610 filed by tmw@autotrain.org. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2610 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Mageia trinity-filesystem package missing from R14.0.2 and R14.0.3 |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2597 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2597 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, konsole mouse-scrolling support for 'less', 'vi', ... |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2611 filed by robert.adolle@free.fr. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2611 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Geogebra crashes in PCLinuxOS Trinity 64 bits |
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a-865 | Selecting 'trinity-tdm-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64' from repository 'TDE' for installation. |
a-865 | 'tdebase-trinity' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. |
a-865 | Resolving package dependencies... |
a-865 | Force resolution: No |
a-865 | Problem: nothing provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64 :-( |
a-865 | oops, wrong error message |
a-865 | Selecting 'trinity-tdebase-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64' from repository 'TDE' for installation. |
a-865 | Selecting 'trinity-tdm-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64' from repository 'TDE' for installation. |
a-865 | Resolving package dependencies... |
a-865 | Force resolution: No |
a-865 | 2 Problems: |
a-865 | Problem: nothing provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64 |
a-865 | Problem: nothing provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64 |
a-865 | Problem: nothing provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64 :-( |
a-865 | Installing libHalf11 didn't help |
a-865 | Is this a mirror problem? |
a-865 | oops, got bit by not having Packman enabled, again :-( |
SlavekB | a-865: for RPMs it is better to ask a question on the mailing list |
a-865 | SlavekB: questions I ask there that you don't answer typically do not get answers |
a-865 | seems like there are at most 3 openSUSE users who ever post on the mailing lists |
SlavekB | RPM packages prepares François Android that is not here at IRC. |
SlavekB | François usually responds quickly on the mailing list. |
a-865 | all
my openSUSE 13.1 TDE installations have sound, but I can't get sound
out of any of my openSUSE 42.1 TDE installations, while this 42.1 with
KDE3 sound works fine |
SlavekB | It sounds like a problem that should already be solved in R14.0.3. |
a-865 | but the instant installation is fresh, 14.0.3 |
a-865 | only had IceWM before |
SlavekB | Test sound in Trinity Control Center does work? |
SlavekB | because it sounded to me like a bug 2392 |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, RESOLVED FIXED, Fedora 21 does not fully recognize ogg files |
a-865 | aplay would work from vtty before, but now it's silent, so there's obviously a more fundamental problem on this machine ATM |
pitriss | a-865:
that can be problem outside TDE also.. Check sound backeds used in
KDE/TDE.. they can be set up differently eg one pointing to alsa, second
to pulse audio. And for me pulse audio is thing where most evil bugs
with sound was born.. I had never luck to force PA to run properly. But
IDK as i have alsa working perfectly |
pitriss | *IDC |
a-865 | pitriss: outside TDE is exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Long as aplay doesn't work in vtty, I don't even start X. |
a-865 | an hour ago aplay worked |
a-865 | not it doesn't |
a-865 | now it doesn't |
pitriss | isn't it simply muted in alsamixer? |
a-865 | would be nice if alsamixer had a play test sound function |
pitriss | I can't remember why/when but once i had sound issues and some weird witchery reseted my alsa default volumes |
pitriss | let aplay play some long track and from second tty run alsamixer and try to move sliders |
a-865 | finally got aplay to work after disabling all at right side of alsamixer |
pitriss | and under root/sudo alsactl store should save this setting |
a-865 | TCC sound system just loops "starting sound system" |
pitriss | and restarting alsa-utils (im not sure if this is the same as in debian) in tty goes well? |
a-865 | in
yast sound configuration, almost everything was turned way down - too
may different controls, makes no sense, can't figure out which one is
culprit |
a-865 | still no sound from TCC though, but aplay works in konsole, and sound works on youtube in FF |
pitriss | sorry i can't help you with yast as I never used opensuse.. I have no idea how yast looks like:) |
a-865 | aplay makes sound, yast makes sound, youtube makes sound, but TCC makes no sound |
a-865 | tcc just loops "starting sound system" |
pitriss | hmm weird.. look into kcontrol how it is set up |
pitriss | ah |
SlavekB | try to disable sound server in TCC => apply and then again enable soud server => apply. |
a-865 | I don't see any on/off switch in TCC |
a-865 | only audio device selection is autodetect |
a-865 | oh, right at top |
a-865 | switching that just starts the starting sound system loop |
pitriss | err kcontrol => sound system => general => enable sound system checkbox- |
pitriss | sorry if these names arent 100% correct as I have czech language applied |
a-865 | must be trinity sound depends on an unfulfilled requirement |
a-865 | broken dep |
pitriss | hmm at first try to switch hardware to alsa from autodetect |
a-865 | "05:13a-865 only audio device selection is autodetect" |
pitriss | ah |
pitriss | then this is more like question for SlavekB and other devs..:) I'm only user:) |
a-865 | I have to quit, hours past bed time |
a-865 | pitriss: thx for trying |
pitriss | anytime..:) |
pitriss | gn:) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2612 filed by mrmazda@earthlink.net. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2612 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , no system sounds - only audio device selection in TCC is autodetect |
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a-865 | pitriss: that was me filed 2612 |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2613 filed by deloptes@yahoo.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2613 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , VCardTool::parseDateTime is broken |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2613 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2613 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , VCardTool::parseDateTime is broken |
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Borg^Queen | hello to all |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2614 filed by rajah987@yopmail.net. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2614 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Many apps complain: unknown color name "BACKGROUND" etc |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2615 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2615 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TCL/TK applications fail to start |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2616 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2616 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , soundkonverter stalls on conversion |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2396 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2396 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, TDM is not capable of starting Unity |
pitriss | hi guys.. Can kmail pass parts of header to script when i use filter and run script? |
pitriss | eg time, or whole mail or so.. |
pitriss | ahh i found something in help so nevermind.. i will try trial/error method.. |
pitriss | ok so my question is.. why when i want to use %0 as script parameter (in kmail filter) I get path to nonexistant file? |
pitriss | ah i think i got it.. that file is just temporary during execution of filter and is deleted after filter is processed. |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2617 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2617 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Help entry "Report Bug/Request Enhancement" |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2613 from ASSIGNED to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2613 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, PATCHAVAIL , VCardTool::parseDateTime is broken |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2618 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2618 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDE icons: need to use TDE named icons |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2619 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2619 needs packaging, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , Add Klt to supported applications |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2620 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2620 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Kopete: AIM support needs updating |
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ybalrid | Hi, I'm trying to build tqt but I have an error regarding libtqt-mt.so.3 |
ybalrid | in fact, while building "tquic", it doesn't find the library |
ybalrid | This
is weird because I think it's part of tqt itself. I thought it was
because I was running multiple make jobs in parallel, but apparently it
doesn't change anything. |
kb9vqf | ybalrid: Can you paste a full build log to e.g. http://paste.ee ? |
ybalrid | I retry the build and I paste the output |
pitriss | Hi
guys, any ideas why kmail would't run my filters on imap connected
mailbox automagically? When i mark that mail, and click apply all
filters, then its processed without errors |
ybalrid | okay so I'm on a VM on a tty |
ybalrid | so I'm writing make output to a file, it will be easier |
ybalrid | I
actually just found out about this project yesterday. I was thinking
"If people forked Gnome 2 to create MATE, surely a fork of the good old
KDE 3 exist. And google did the rest. |
ybalrid | kb9vqf, here's the full log of make http://avalon.ybalrid.info/build.log |
ybalrid | kb9vqf, and here's how ./configure was run http://avalon.ybalrid.info/doconfigure |
kb9vqf | ybalrid: That's interesting. What operating system is this? |
ybalrid | ArchLinux |
kb9vqf | ah, ok |
ybalrid | it's a compleately fresh install |
kb9vqf | basically it looks like an RPATH issue |
ybalrid | interesting |
kb9vqf | tqtuic can't find the shared library that was previously built |
ybalrid | That's what I understood |
kb9vqf | but since this is all inside the build directory I'd blame RPATH |
kb9vqf | it's been a while since I've seen one of these so bear with me :) |
ybalrid | What's RPATH, an environement variable ? |
ybalrid | if I echo $RPATH it's empty ^^" |
kb9vqf | objdump -x /home/ybalrid/tde-tar/dependencies/tqt3/bin/tquic | grep RPATH |
ybalrid | /opt/trinity/lib |
kb9vqf | ok, so quick hack to get things going would be to copy libtqt-mt.so.3 there |
ybalrid | I see |
ybalrid | o.O |
kb9vqf | ? |
ybalrid | the (mostly empty) page about trinity on the ArchLinux wiki has been updated today |
kb9vqf | nice! |
ybalrid | somebody apparently wrote a PKGBUILD for it |
ybalrid | apparently |
ybalrid | so somebody is trying (or achived) what I was wanting to do xD |
kb9vqf | Yeah, it looks like Debian/Ubuntu jumps through some hoops to get it built too: https://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/ubuntu/maverick/dependencies/tqt3/debian/rules |
kb9vqf | the rest of TDE's a bit easier to build |
ybalrid | like
I said, I wasn't aware TDE existed until yesterday, and wanted to try
it out. But since there was no packages in the repo, nor in the AURs, I
needed to make it |
kb9vqf | sure |
ybalrid | I can imagine |
ybalrid | Qt is still a huge chunk of code, with multiple parts in libraries |
kb9vqf | nowhere near as large as Qt4/5 |
kb9vqf | ;-) |
ybalrid | I know |
ybalrid | it keeps getting bigger and bigger |
kb9vqf | BTW did you see this? |
kb9vqf | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/How_to_Build_TDE_Core_Modules |
ybalrid | I was following this page |
kb9vqf | (probably moot since you said you found an AUR, but still) |
kb9vqf | ok |
kb9vqf | might need to update it then |
ybalrid | I think it's not yet on the AUR |
ybalrid | it's on somebody's github |
kb9vqf | ah, ok |
kb9vqf | well if you need more help poke me or SlavekB |
ybalrid | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Building_with_Michael.27s_PKGBUILD_files |
ybalrid | I gonna try that. Seems somebody is working at packaging it for Arch's Users Repository |
kb9vqf | sure, sounds great! |
ybalrid | but it's really fun since I was searching for that yesterday xD |
ybalrid | I can't wrap my head around this |
ybalrid | so I launched the script, gonna see if it create installable packages or not ^^" |
ybalrid | somebody also added a link to arch wiki here : |
ybalrid | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Category:Documentation#Installing_from_a_Package_Manager |
ybalrid | okay so it's currently building tqt3 |
ybalrid | okay, so it's done building, packaging, and it's installing the package for real |
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SlavekB | ybalrid:
Excellent - this is good information for me! I've already prepared the
chroot environment in which I wanted to try to prepare PKGBUILDss, but
time is not enough... |
SlavekB | So I am glad that there is someone more experienced with Arch who is being dealt with this. |
ybalrid | yeah but I got an error at some point, it wants xscreensaver |
ybalrid | wich
is not by default on Arch 'cause nothing is by default on arch and he
forgot it on the dependencies of the package so it wasn't installed by
default |
ybalrid | I'm submiting him an issue on his github, since he's active on it he'll probably fix that quickly |
ybalrid | getting back on the issue, tdebase depends on libxss, without the lib, ld complains about "-lXss" ^^" |
ybalrid | anyway, I'm happy now : http://puu.sh/nU9Mr/c4bb84ad62.jpg |
pitriss | ybalrid: congratz:) |
ybalrid | The first time I touched a GNU/Linux system, it was a Kubuntu 7.10. I found a live CD somewhere and launched it in a VM... |
ybalrid | Then
I thought that KDE really changed a lot with 4, and since I knew people
was maintainig Gnome2 alive (MATE) I looked if the same thing was done
with KDE3 and found TDE ^^" |
ybalrid | Konqueror still uses the old KHTML from back in the day? |
ybalrid | (I havent looked the changelogs yet) |
pitriss | yes unfortunatelly it does.. |
pitriss | personally i would like to be able to use some alernative backend for konqueror.. maybe that new one from palemoon |
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ybalrid | pitriss, yeah. No idie if it's "feasable" to use a modern version of webkit for Konqueror |
ybalrid | maybe it's possible to backport it (and the Qt Widget class that goes with them) from a modern version of Qt to tqt3 |
pitriss | Idk
too.. but TDE should have some browser with more recent core.. I am fan
of pure accessible web, but.. today nobody thinks about web
accessibility so browsers core gets more bloated with webgl and other
crap |
pitriss | maybe there can be added qupzilla or so with added kio_slaves.. idk I'm not coder.. |
ybalrid | Well,
I know a bit about how Qt works (I started messing with it with Qt4,
not 3 but whatever), and I'm a C++ developer. If I found some time I can
try to make something works... |
ybalrid | Or
maybe TDE could keep the old UI but move forward to newer Qt version.
This is probably a lot a work and is not practical in the short term |
ybalrid | I see no reason why theses application couldn't keep their behaviour, look&feel but run against Qt5 for example... |
ybalrid | But Qt changed quite a bit from 3 to 5 ^^" |
pitriss | ybalrid
I wish it would be possible to integrate palemoon/firefox with TDE..
kwallet for passwords, somehow make kio_slaves working in it.. And I
would be happy.. As palemoon seems as OK browser for me..:) |
pitriss | Atleast those passwords.. I found some efforts to do so.. but they were for kde4 |
ybalrid | :/ |
ybalrid | I never used kwallet to store my passwords so... |
ybalrid | I
quite liked konqueror in KDE3. That was the thing actually. This
software do all you basic needs, web, files, opening some documents
even. And I think it can do FTP and stuff, so that's nice |
ybalrid | but you can't really browse modern web with an HTML engine that old |
pitriss | I'm
using krusader as filebrowser/ftp/sftp client and it can also preview
some files so thats not an issue for me.. but i'm really missing that
kwallet integration for firefox like browsers as I do not trust to their
system of password storing.. |
pitriss | on other hand, there are few bugs that i hate more than this lack of kwallet integration:D |
SlavekB | on the other browsers I miss especially the cooperation with the session management. |
pitriss | SlavekB: yep that too, they can't shut off in nice way mostly.. |
SlavekB | I usually have several Konqueror windows on different desktops and with different tabs. |
SlavekB | Thanks to good cooperation with session manager is properly saved on logout and on the next login open again. |
SlavekB | ...on the right desktops and with the right tabs. |
pitriss | great.. and this can't be solved for palemoon with some dbus/dcop calls? ofcourse it will need some addon |
pitriss | I stuck with palemoon right now as it is much faster than latest firefox which is painfully slow with more than 30 tabs opened |
mirda | hi, I would appreciate that kwallet integration in firefox like browser too |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2621 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [Enhancement Request] Libre.fm support in Amarok |
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ZenWalker | hi |
ZenWalker | why trinity it isnt on official debian packages? |
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pitriss | ZenWalker: I'm not sure... ..but maybe because of lack of debian package maintainers who would like to adopt trinity |
SlavekB | ZenWalker:
Trinity is installed in /opt/trinity, because otherwise it could cause
conflicts with programs ported to newer versions of KDE. |
SlavekB | There
would be a possibility "rename completely everything," but Trinity is
orders of magnitude greater than, for example MATE, so it would require
considerable effort. |
SlavekB | ZenWalker: But I dare say that Trinity has a very good support for Debian / Ubuntu packages. |
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CyberBotX | Hi
there. I was wondering, I saw in the last news post about R14.0.3 that
FreeBSD support was being worked on. May I ask how that is going and
what can be done to help it out? I had actually attempted making a
FreeBSD port of TDE but it was a bit too overwhelming of an undertaking
at the time I was doing it, and I also found some things were not
working quite as well as they did in |
CyberBotX | KDE 3.5. |
kb9vqf | CyberBotX:
I'm not directly involved in the FreeBSD port, maybe one of our other
developers will respond with more information :) |
CyberBotX | Alrighty. I'll be going to bed soon (I have work in the morning, sadly), but I'll keep in here just in case. |
kb9vqf | Yeah, that would be a good idea |
kb9vqf | SlavekB IIRC knows more about that port status than I do right now |
CyberBotX | I'd
been using KDE 3.5 for so long and I've been trying to use KDE4 on a
new machine I put together, but some of the weirdness of KDE4 is making
me want to look at TDE instead of trying to continue to locally maintain
old KDE 3.5 ports. |
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Strangelv | Hello |
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SlavekB | CyberBotX: on FreeBSD is one major problem - there was something wrong with threads - see bug 2462 |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2462 blocker, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , [FreeBSD] Crash in threads tdm, kdesktop,... |
SlavekB | CyberBotX: on tde-packaging git repository you can see what ports are already prepared: http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/freebsd?h=r14.0.x |
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ZenWalker | SlavekB: my question is because mate (fork gnome 2) is on official debian packages, but trinity not yet :) |
SlavekB | ZenWalker:
Yes, I understand. Mate carried out many renaming - for them it was a
little easier task - it's not so much size of the source code, it's not
such a number of applications and have a more active developers. |
SlavekB | This made it possible to achieve integration into the distributions. |
SlavekB | Trinity have a small number of developers and, therefore, focuses on improving the code instead of renaming. |
ZenWalker | aha, thanks |
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SlavekB | A long time ago, I saw statistics that Mate has about 2 million lines of code, while Trinity 12 millions. |
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mirda | hello and happy easters lately:) |
mirda | ZenWalker: TDE has many bundled applications, Kontact, KOrganizer, Konqueror, Krusader, Kpilot, ... |
mirda | ZenWalker: how many applications are part of Gnome2 (MATE)? |
mirda | i think much less |
Strangelv | Would really help to find a sponsor with even semi-deep pockets |
Strangelv | Last
I checked many of our bundled applications were superior to their KDE
4+ equivalents. Some rather significantly superior |
Strangelv | With enough work they could be reintroduced to KDE |
Strangelv | "and yes, getting into Debian would be a very good thing |
mirda | i have no problem with external repository, i rather prefer bugfixes |
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Strangelv | Bugfixes, improvements necessatated by the passage of time, improved reputation and userbase size |
Strangelv | For example, support for the HTML 5 doctype in Quanta Plus |
Strangelv | Right
now no one has time for that, and while I personally avoid HTML 5 tags
to the greatest extent possible, not having the option doesn't help
attract new users |
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tbottu | 10ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net changed the Status on bug 364 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=364 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED , kitchensync-kde3 install fails |
tbottu | 10ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net changed the Status on bug 2406 from RESOLVED WORKSFORME to REOPENED ---. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2406 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, REOPENED , Broken dependencies on Debian Jessie |
tbottu | 10ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net changed the Status on bug 364 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
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tbottu | 10ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell@recursor.net changed the Status on bug 2406 from REOPENED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2622 filed by james@nurealm.net. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2622 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tqt3 and tqtinterface - /etc/profile.d/tqt3.sh and trinity.sh conflict with other Qt-based DE's |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2623 filed by james@nurealm.net. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2623
normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdebindings - ld: cannot find -ltqt-mt,
ruby 2.2 support fails, and no disable ruby configure switch |
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Strangelv | #2622 doesn't look good |
SlavekB | Strangelv: I believe that these files are not included in the source code == apparently are created specifically for Arch Linux. |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2622 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2622
normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tqt3 and tqtinterface -
/etc/profile.d/tqt3.sh and trinity.sh conflict with other Qt-based DE's |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2624 filed by dmaglio@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2624 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Amarok: missing engine |
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Strangelv | Does
anyone know our current status with running
LibreOffice. Things almost display reliably now, but it sends
XOrg CPU usage to maximum and can be impressively slow to respond. |
SlavekB | Strangelv: High load I noticing in cases when something is copied to the clipboard from Calc. |
Strangelv | Noted. So
that's why it's less ofa problem when I needed to go back
and reopen. I've not copied and pasted anything this time |
Strangelv | Do we have any other known situations with major applications like this? |
Strangelv | Unrelaned question: is there a way to get a wider selection of DPI settings? |
Strangelv | Ideally an arbitrary value with a large possible range |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2623 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2623
normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tdebindings - ld: cannot find
-ltqt-mt, ruby 2.2 support fails, and no disable ruby configure switch |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2623 from NEEDINFO to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2623
normal, P5, ---, slavek.banko, ASSIGNED , tdebindings - ld: cannot find
-ltqt-mt, ruby 2.2 support fails, and no disable ruby configure switch |
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SlavekB | Fat-Zer: Please, is there any conclusion regarding the proposed patch in http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::15047 ? |
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kb9vqf | pitriss: Commercial power failure |
kb9vqf | Space_Man: ^^ |
kb9vqf | took out the entire area including Internet links |
pitriss | np.. it happens sometimes:) |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2613 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2613 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, VCardTool::parseDateTime is broken |
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easyAnalyst | hi every1 |
easyAnalyst | the ubuntu release of TDE |
easyAnalyst | (http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/release/R14.0.3/tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso) |
easyAnalyst | is corrupted... |
easyAnalyst | i downloaded several times from several computers and ISP and nothing |
easyAnalyst | all corrupted |
SlavekB | easyAnalyst: checksum is ok? |
easyAnalyst | SlavekB, ill check |
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pitriss | About that ubuntu Image. I was able to download it from http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/release/R14.0.3/tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso
and checksum is OK. But Vurtualbox 4.3 refuses to open this image..
Could not get the storage format of the medium
'/PATH/tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso' (VERR_NOT_SUPPORTED). |
pitriss | I have no physical medium to burn this image there, so I can't help with further testing:( |
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SlavekB | pitriss: you can try to mount it using option -oloop |
pitriss | yep i will try |
pitriss | SlavekB: yep, mounting via -o loop is working fine.. |
SlavekB | so it looks like a different problem than the corrupted iso file. |
pitriss | yeah, most probably.. |
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SlavekB | I tried to download and run manually in KVM: |
SlavekB | kvm -m 512 -cdrom tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso -vga std |
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SlavekB | It is work normally, including the expected problem during shutdown. |
SlavekB | $ file tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso |
SlavekB | tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso:
# ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data ''Ubuntu Trusty TDE
amd64' ' (bootable) |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2625 filed by deloptes@yahoo.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdeabc/vcardparser/vcardparser.cpp accepted encoding |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2626 filed by m.alonso1970@live.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2626 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , q4os keyboard |
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a-865 | is there a simple edit I can make with mc somewhere in /etc/ to switch from lightdm to tdm-trinity in Xenial? |
SlavekB | a-865: you can try: dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity |
a-865 | oops, didn't need to. Apt asked when installing tdm-trinity which I wanted. |
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a-865 | 14.0.4 on fresh 16.04b is working :-) |
SlavekB | a-865: great, thank you for testing it! |
a-865 | SlavekB: thank you for providing it!!! |
a-865 | using modeset X driver instead of nouveau |
a-865 | might not be OK |
a-865 | logins on vttys are all missing |
a-865 | apparently some wierd boot processes not finishing are preventing gettys from starting |
a-865 | "Daily Apt Activities", whatever those are |
a-865 | If I boot to multi-user instead, I get gettys |
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a-865 |
/etc/X11/default-display-manager contains /opt/trinity/bin/tdm, which
works to make TDM the greeter. What makes TDE the default session for
startx? |
a-865 | update-alternatives --config x-session-manger works, but how? what does it change? |
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pitriss | Hi guys, does someone use kmail filters on imap mailbox? |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2627 filed by krisgamrat@hushmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TMenu occaisionally quits working |
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MarkBilk | Hi! please recommend the easiest up-to-date/rolling well-supported binary non-systemd distro that works with TDE. |
MarkBilk | does TDE work with over pclinuxos or void linux? |
MarkBilk | does TDE work with pclinuxos or void linux? |
pitriss | Idk I'm using debian wheezy |
kb9vqf | MarkBilk: No idea. We mainly target the mainstream distros, and Arch has IIRC AFAIK |
kb9vqf | *has systemd |
SlavekB | MarkBilk: Exe GNU/Linux is based on Devuan (Debian without systemd) and primary desktop environment is Trinity. |
SlavekB | MarkBilk: Trinity on PCLinuxOS is supported - see rpm packages http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/ |
MarkBilk | thanks! PCLinuxOS has a kde version from march 2016 and "over 12,000 rpm software packages" |
MarkBilk | so in PCLinuxOS, do i just point Synaptic to http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64/ and tell it to install everything, and then restart? |
SlavekB | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/PCLinuxOSInstall |
MarkBilk | super thanks! |
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nemilen | hello |
nemilen | Whether installing gentoo where possible? |
nemilen | Does TDE installation is possible in gentoo? |
nemilen | sorry for my eng |
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nemilen | anybody here/ |
nemilen | ? |
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MarkBilk | SlavekB: check this out: http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com/ |
MarkBilk | ISOs of PCLinuxOS with TDE as the desktop! |
SlavekB | Yes, this ISO uses RPM packages which I referred. |
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Fat-Zer | SlavekB: hi, here? |
SlavekB | Yes, right now I was looking at your patch. |
Fat-Zer | SlavekB: thanks |
SlavekB | It is absolutely correct! |
SlavekB | I think I'll push the patch very soon. |
Fat-Zer | are you going to push it soon, no hurry just wondering... |
Fat-Zer | oh))) |
SlavekB | I think that currently I have no other patches for common admin and cmake modules that would be good push together. |
Fat-Zer | yeah, thanks... just haven't read your message before pushing enter =)) |
SlavekB | I wanted to test in the near future build current R14.0.4~pre on FreeBSD where this patch will be very important :) |
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SlavekB | nemilen: as far as I know, gentoo ebuilds are in good condition. |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2628 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2628 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS on libr because missing link to libdl |
tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2628 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
SlavekB | nemilen: some older overlays that were available are not maintaned. |
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nemilen | SlavekB I have found a way to install TDE ;) |
Fat-Zer | nemilen: aren't you Vilen? |
nemilen | yes |
nemilen | ;) |
Fat-Zer | oh) |
nemilen | неожиданно) |
nemilen | Fat-Zer ничего что тут по русски пишу ? ) |
Fat-Zer | nemilen: думаю ничего, но лучше в личку... |
Fat-Zer | SlavekB: I wouldn't say whey are in _good_ condinion... the most I can estimate it is "mostly working" |
SlavekB | Oh, yeah, I wanted to write: "are not in good condition", but the key word I forgot :) |
Fat-Zer | yep, that sounds more like a truth... |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2628 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2628 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: FTBFS on libr because missing link to libdl |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2629 filed by dvadell@clustering.com.ar. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Update in the Nightly_Builds wikip age |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2626 from NEW --- to RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2626 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED NOTOURPROBLEM, q4os keyboard |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2629 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Update in the Nightly_Builds wikip age |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2625 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tdeabc/vcardparser/vcardparser.cpp accepted encoding |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2630 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2630 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Add "What's new" page for next minor release R14.1.0 |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2631 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2631 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Tastymenu enhancement |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2378 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2378 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , eliminate displayed redundance when only one control module is displayed |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2632 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEPowersave: ESC functionality in "inactivity" dialog |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2632 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , TDEPowersave: ESC functionality in "inactivity" dialog |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2625 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tdeabc/vcardparser/vcardparser.cpp accepted encoding |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2633 filed by dvadell@clustering.com.ar. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Unresolved dependencies - Ubuntu 16.04 beta 2 + Preliminary Stable Builds |
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tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2633 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, PATCHAVAIL , Unresolved dependencies - Ubuntu 16.04 beta 2 + Preliminary Stable Builds |
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tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2628 from RESOLVED FIXED to REOPENED ---. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2628 normal, P5, ---, albator78, REOPENED , Build issue: FTBFS on libr because missing link to libdl |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2634 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2634 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS because missing link to libcrypto |
tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2634 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2634 normal, P5, ---, albator78, PATCHAVAIL , Build issue: FTBFS because missing link to libcrypto |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2635 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2635 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS in libtdeldap when using mit-krb5 library |
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tbottu | 10dvadell@clustering.com.ar changed the Status on bug 2633 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Unresolved dependencies - Ubuntu 16.04 beta 2 + Preliminary Stable Builds |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2474 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2474 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, KPlayer port from kde3 to tde |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 1955 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1955 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Add KXMLEditor to repository |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2029 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2029
needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, qalculate-kde KDE
headers in installation prefix, can you package Qalcuate! to Trinity? |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2260 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2260 needs packaging, P5, ---, kb9vqf, RESOLVED FIXED, Tasty Menu |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2086 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2086 needs packaging, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Request for packaging: style ia-ora |
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mirda | hello |
mirda | SlavekB: thank you very much for qalculate package |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2636 filed by stara@live.se. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2636 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , network |
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milisman | hi guys |
milisman | i want to ask how much ram use trinity at start |
milisman | i am asking less value |
SlavekB | milisman: It might interest you https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops-part-2/ |
milisman | yes i have already reading it :) |
milisman | actually i want to ask you that ypu are using it |
milisman | how much can we see less value |
milisman | SlavekB which distro on you are running trinity? |
SlavekB | I currently use Debian Wheezy |
milisman | how much you see |
milisman | at start |
SlavekB | I have many things running right at the start of session - Icewease, Amarok, KMail,... |
milisman | i see |
SlavekB | so the question is how to define "at start" |
Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: hi, sorry for nagging about the patch issue, but how more it will take to build the packages? |
milisman | i mean no process will run at start |
milisman | only desktop manager will run |
SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: building packages has been completed! I will push the patch very soon. |
Fat-Zer_ | ok... thanks in advance... |
Fat-Zer_ | milisman:
I can't remember my RAM usage, but in general it will be comfortable
enough to use with ≥512M RAM and it will be nearly impossible with
<192M |
milisman | https://l3net.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/cmp-all4.png |
milisman | i found this |
milisman | but i think it consumes more than this picture |
Fat-Zer_ | milisman: current usage of main components on my system: |
Fat-Zer_ | 24 hosts allow = 127.0.0.1 192.168.0.0/24 |
Fat-Zer_ | 25 hosts deny = 0.0.0.0/0 |
Fat-Zer_ | ps h -o rss,cmd -C kded,twin,konqueror,kdesktop,kicker | awk '{print $1/1024"M\t"$2;}' | wgetpaste |
Fat-Zer_ | Your paste can be seen here: https://bpaste.net/show/cf0105fc8cf4 |
milisman | good |
milisman | except konqueror it consumes 127mb |
milisman | i think trinity is close xfce4 about ram using |
milisman | ok,i want to try it my own distro how can i pratically compile it |
milisman | i want to just compile core |
milisman | i read this: |
milisman | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/How_to_Build_TDE_Core_Modules |
milisman | but a bit i messed |
milisman | https://bpaste.net/show/1ad9c1578946 |
milisman | these are enough for a cre? |
milisman | core* |
Fat-Zer_ | yes, but qca and avahi are optional... |
milisman | ok |
milisman | let me a try |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2637 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2637 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , "konsole": color and bold attributes not handled orthogonally |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2638 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2638 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , screen saver & TDEpowersave ignore certain user time settings |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2639 filed by thomas.maus@gmx.de. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , screen-saver unlock dialog freezing GUI? |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2639 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , screen-saver unlock dialog freezing GUI? |
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a-865 | nothing
provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by
trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins-14.0.3-1.oss421.x86_64 (wants
to remove more than 20 packages. :-( |
a-865 | Oh, looks like yet another Packman dep |
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tbottu | 10thomas.maus@gmx.de changed the Status on bug 2639 from NEEDINFO to NEW. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , screen-saver unlock dialog freezing GUI? |
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a-865 | 14.0.3 on Jessie is crashing on startup due to a segfault somewhere that I cannot tell :-( |
a-865 | in .xsession-errors segfault follows [starttde] TDEDIRS: |
Fat-Zer_ | a-865: are you running tde from terminal or from a dm? |
a-865 | Intel GMA45 |
a-865 | crashes either way |
a-865 | usually I use startx, but trinity-tdm same result |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2378 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2378 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, eliminate displayed redundance when only one control module is displayed |
a-865 | dmesg says pipe state doesn't match |
a-865 | that's following a long message about check_crtc_state |
Fat-Zer_ | you may increase the log verbosity replacing starttde with "/bin/sh -x /path/to/starttde" |
Fat-Zer_ | this will likely tell the exact place of failure |
a-865 | replace how? I'm simply executing startx with no options. |
Fat-Zer_ | startx simply executes content of ~/.xinitrc isn't it? |
a-865 | .xinitrc does not exist |
Fat-Zer_ | /etc/<something>/xinitrc ? |
a-865 | /etc/Xsession.d/ I think |
a-865 | /etc/xinit/xinitrc |
Fat-Zer_ | or you may still just create a user specific file... |
Fat-Zer_ | on gentoo it's /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.... not sure about debian... |
a-865 | /etc/xinit/xinitrc only contains . /etc/X11/Xsession |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2632 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEPowersave: ESC functionality in "inactivity" dialog |
a-865 | entire .xsession-errors: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/xsession-errors-jessie-gx780 |
Fat-Zer_ | 403 |
a-865 | just fixed that |
a-865 | tail of /var/log/kern.log http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/dmsgtail.gx780-jessie |
a-865 | I would use Xorg's built-in modeset driver it Jessie wasn't using that antique server 1.16.4 |
a-865 | somehow I think this Jessie is stuck on 8.0 instead of 8.4 |
a-865 | os-release just says 8 |
Fat-Zer_ | a-865: isn't this log is an hour old? |
a-865 | no, just minutes |
a-865 | http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/ |
Fat-Zer_ | try just run "startx /bin/sh -x /path/to/starttde >/tmp/starttde-full.log 2>&1" |
Fat-Zer_ | and upload /tmp/starttde-full.log |
a-865 | http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/starttde-fulllog.txt |
SlavekB | a-865: you have installed kgtk-qt3? |
Fat-Zer_ | yes he is... |
SlavekB | please, purge this package |
Fat-Zer_ | is it causes segfaults? |
SlavekB | It is very common cause of such crashes |
a-865 | SlavekB: purging fixed it. :-) |
Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: by the word, there is a typo in starttde around line 584: TGTK_NSPR_PRELOAD and KGTK_NSPR_PRELOAD mess... |
kb9vqf | Fixing kgtk-qt3 is on a to-do list if I ever get time to work on TDE again |
kb9vqf | I have had plans for a proper third-party theming framework for some time |
SlavekB | please fill an bug report about starttde |
Fat-Zer_ | I'm gotta go right now.... I'll fill if I won't forget... |
a-865 | SlavekB: who is that request directed to? |
a-865 | we don't need 3 |
a-865 | crashing was happening here even using tdm |
a-865 | on exit from the session, there's still a call trace left on the vtty |
Fat-Zer_ | just undo everything I've told you... gl;hf; bye... |
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a-865 | hmmm, I already filed http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2477 about it 2 months ago |
tbottu | 04Bug 2477: normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tde session won't run if kgtk-qt3-trinity is installed in jessie |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2638 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2638 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , screen saver & TDEpowersave ignore certain user time settings |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2637 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2637 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , "konsole": color and bold attributes not handled orthogonally |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2541 from PATCHAVAIL to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2541
normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , ark rar improvements: fix
support with rar utilities v5.x and improve listing of folders |
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SlavekB | mirda:
By the way, if you want to test qalculate now - with the Preliminary
Stable Builds, you can add next to deps-r14 and main-r14 new test source
extra-r14. |
mirda | SlavekB: oki, thank you for info, i will test it |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2640 filed by matrixx-trinity@underald.net. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2640 minor, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Amarok doesn't play without pulseaudio, but no dependency on it |
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Fat-Zer | hi, have anybody tried to mount an ntfs volume with TDE on a udisks2 distro ever? |
Fat-Zer | OFC, assuming udevil is unavaliable... |
Fat-Zer | ok, not ever, but over last 2 years? |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2641 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2641 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , typo in starttde script |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2541 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2541
normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, ark rar improvements:
fix support with rar utilities v5.x and improve listing of folders |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2641 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2641 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, typo in starttde script |
tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2412 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2412 major, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , TDEpowersave: Suspends to RAM and then to disk |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2472 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2472 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , OTR icon missing in kopete message window |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2601 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2601 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , TDEpowersave + Logout menu should offer Suspend2Hybrid |
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Fat-Zer | could anybody confirm that mount of ntfs volumes with udisks2 is broken? |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2642 filed by contact@librepc.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2642 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Mageia5 repos are not functionals with urpmi.addmedia --distrib |
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ShadowAndrew | adept manager crashes on startup, any way to fix? |
Fat-Zer_ | what is adept manager? |
Fat-Zer_ | oh... apt stuff... I'm dunno... |
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Space_Man | is the adept manager an old package manager that now crashes a lot |
Space_Man | and in the old days used to crash only a bit |
pitriss | lol thats great description:D |
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ShadowAndrew | i am trying out the konqueror web browser but nothing is rendering properly |
ShadowAndrew | any ideas why? |
Space_Man | it is very old and quite out of date |
ShadowAndrew | no plans on updating it im guessing? |
Space_Man | perhaps if somebody offers to do it :P |
ShadowAndrew | because i do like how its integrated with all the tde apps |
ShadowAndrew | with websites that work |
ShadowAndrew | when i open a video it starts streaming in kaffine, etc |
ShadowAndrew | well i would like to work on it but i can't code... |
Space_Man | I have the same problem |
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ShadowAndrew | firefox just doesn't seem to integrate well with tde |
ShadowAndrew | i tried to redirect rss subscriptions to akregator but it doesn't wanna work :/ |
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ShadowAndrew | there also doesn't seem to be any QT based browsers with up to date browser engines.... :/ |
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a-865 | What's the URI for the pre-release 14.0.4? It's missing from https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall :-( |
a-865 | I can never find Slavek's repo when I want it :-( |
a-865 | found it: http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2643 filed by jayaramanmani@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2643 critical, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Adept keep crashing |
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* a-865 is installing TDE in stretch |
a-865 | has the infocenter not been built for 14.0.4? |
a-865 | NVM, I had a typo :-p |
gry | this is not packaged for debian? |
gry | and hi, I saw you at moz network linux chan for years but not talking :) |
a-865 | not much talkin goes on there ever |
a-865 | ppl come and ask question, then don't stick around for answer |
SlavekB | a-865: infocenter is integrated into control center. |
a-865 | right, but my typo made me question that |
a-865 | tdecmchell doesn't work |
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Fat-Zer_ | How to debug trinity apps with gdb? |
Fat-Zer_ | whenever I run "gdb ark" |
Fat-Zer_ | it does some dcop stuff and exits, when actual app seams to be run by tded, does anybody knows a way to overcome that? |
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a-865 | Fat-Zer_: start ark first, then in Konsole do 'gdb ark <pidofark>' |
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Fat-Zer_ | a-865: I'm debugging a crash on start... |
Fat-Zer_ | ok... actually crash is upon oppening a file... that's not very convinient, but works... |
Fat-Zer_ | thanks |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2644 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2644 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , ark: segfault and some more issues in recent rar engine |
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tbottu | 10fatzer2@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 2644 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2644 normal, P5, ---, fatzer2, PATCHAVAIL , ark: segfault and some more issues in recent rar engine |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2645 filed by fatzer2@gmail.com. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2645 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tqtinterface FTBFS if tqt3 was build without opengl and opengl is not present on system |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2645 from NEW to NEEDINFO. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2645 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEEDINFO , tqtinterface FTBFS if tqt3 was build without opengl and opengl is not present on system |
Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: hi, haven't understood your question on the bug... |
SlavekB | can you check file tqt-mt.pc and variable qt_config? |
SlavekB | This variable should contain information on how tqt3 was built. |
SlavekB | It might be a clue as to whether tqtinterface can or can not build with opengl. |
Fat-Zer_ | https://bpaste.net/show/7e39ea57603d |
Fat-Zer_ | attached to the bug as well |
Fat-Zer_ | I may attach both build logs if you wish |
SlavekB | Thank you - it is so - opengl is not referenced in pkg-config file if tqt3 was not built with opengl. |
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Fat-Zer | SlavekB: hi, got some time to push a patch a right now? |
Fat-Zer | https://bpaste.net/show/33b5e2f9bfee |
Fat-Zer | it fixes splited build of tdegames |
Fat-Zer | *with cmake |
SlavekB | Fat-Zer: ok, will be pushed soon. |
Fat-Zer | thanks in advance... please notice me here then ready... |
Fat-Zer | *when |
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SlavekB | Fat-Zer: patch was pushed |
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Fat-Zer | SlavekB: hi, about previous patch: there were a typo in kjumpingcube |
Fat-Zer | here is a fix: https://bpaste.net/show/169e1954db7f |
SlavekB | Fat-Zer: second patch pushed |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2646 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2646 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEFileReplace: fix order of entries |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2647 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2647 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Central setting for screen locking and hiding is needed |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2648 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2648 enhancement, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , tqt3: add sort options for TQListView |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2649 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2649 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , No error message is displayed if hibernation fails |
tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2650 filed by michele.calgaro@yahoo.it. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2650 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , TDEPowersave display undimm problem. |
Fat-Zer_ | could anybody test if ksokoban crashes on start? |
Fat-Zer_ | backtrace is: https://bpaste.net/show/3baaade4b4bf |
SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: Yes - I tried ksokoban in 14.0.4~pre on Debian Wheezy and also crashes on start! |
Fat-Zer_ | is it was built with cmake? |
SlavekB | yes, with cmake |
SlavekB | Later I would try to rework a test machine to R14.0.3 and try there. |
Fat-Zer_ | ok... I'm building with autotools right now to try if the crash will go... |
Fat-Zer_ | builded with autotools version works, so it's a cmake issue... |
Fat-Zer_ | I found the problem: with cmake ksokoban compresses it's levels with zlib, support for witch seams to be broken... |
Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: patch to fix the ksokoban: https://bpaste.net/show/bba4f6573a3c |
SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: Thank you, will be pushed soon. |
Fat-Zer_ | np |
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Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB:
what drive mount backend is used on your distro, if it's udisks:2, than
could you confirm that ntfs volume mount is broken? |
SlavekB | on my Debian Wheezy I have udisks. |
SlavekB | I try to find time during the weekend to try it on my test notebook with Debian Jessie. |
Fat-Zer_ | ok, thanks in advance... |
SlavekB | Fat-Zer_:
I found here my test disk with many versions of Ubuntu. I tried Ubuntu
15.04 (Vivid) - which has udisks2. With USB disks with NTFS works as it
should. |
Fat-Zer_ | hm... |
Fat-Zer_ | what exactly version of udisks it provides? |
Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: according to http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/vivid/universe/base/udisks it has udisks-1 |
Fat-Zer_ | *not an official site |
SlavekB | oops, I've turned off the machine. I'll look later... |
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SlavekB | Fat-Zer_: udisk2 - 2.1.5-1 |
Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: and nor udevil nor udisks 1 are installed, right? |
SlavekB | only udisks2 |
Fat-Zer_ | hm... strange... |
Fat-Zer_ | SlavekB: what locale do you have? |
SlavekB | cs_CZ.UTF-8 :) |
Fat-Zer_ | isn't your flashdrive listed on the fstab? |
SlavekB | no |
Fat-Zer_ | I, personally recieve this error on ntfs mount: http://itmages.com/image/view/4237480/992f36d5 |
SlavekB | you have installed ntfs-3g + fuse? |
Fat-Zer_ | sure |
Fat-Zer_ | it's seems to me quite obvious from the sources why it happens, but I damn can't understand why it works for you |
Fat-Zer_ | and everybody else... |
Fat-Zer_ | the thing is udidks expects "ntfs" rather than ntfs-3g as a file system type... |
SlavekB | Sorry, I have to go away now. I'll be back in a few hours. |
Fat-Zer_ | ok |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2601 from ASSIGNED --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2601 enhancement, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, TDEpowersave + Logout menu should offer Suspend2Hybrid |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 2602 from NEW --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2602 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, RESOLVED FIXED, Terminology and documentation of TDEpowersave and suspend modes |
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tbottu | 10michele.calgaro@yahoo.it changed the Status on bug 71 from NEW to ASSIGNED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=71 normal, P5, ---, michele.calgaro, ASSIGNED , kde panel hiding - raise responds too slowly or sometimes not at all |
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tbottu | 10New TDE bug 2651 filed by albator78@libertysurf.fr. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2651 normal, P5, ---, kb9vqf, NEW , Build issue: FTBFS on tdelibs with older libcryptsetup |
tbottu | 10albator78@libertysurf.fr changed the Status on bug 2651 from NEW to PATCHAVAIL. |
tbottu | 10slavek.banko@axis.cz changed the Status on bug 2651 from PATCHAVAIL --- to RESOLVED FIXED. |
tbottu | 04Bug http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2651 normal, P5, ---, albator78, RESOLVED FIXED, Build issue: FTBFS on tdelibs with older libcryptsetup |
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